[0:06] All right. At 6 pm call to order this
meeting of the council
[0:16] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[0:21] stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:26] for all.
[0:30] Thank you. And uh we'll next move on to
a roll call of the city cler.
[0:34] » De Milner
>> present.
[0:36] » Derski
>> present.
[0:39] » Rolando
>> stolen
[0:42] » present. Okay. All present and accounted
for a little bit of an adjustment to the
[0:48] agenda before we approve it. We'd like
to take under new business item A and uh
[0:54] move that down to C and move B and C up
one spot. We our speaker may be just a
[1:02] little bit late. So,
um,
[1:13] with that, we have a motion.
[1:20] » Second.
>> Do we need to clarify that's amended?
[1:22] Nope. Okay. Okay. Motion to second. Any
further discussion?
[1:27] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:31] » I.
[1:38] » Okay. On to item four. Citizens
opportunity to address the council. U.
[1:43] Please walk to the front, state your
name and address and the subject of your
[1:46] discussion. And we ask you to limit your
comments to three minutes.
[1:57] You want to jump again?
>> Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name
[2:02] is Jane Sheer, longtime Benton County
resident living outside of Atkins. I'm
[2:07] here tonight to follow up on a few items
related to the Morgan Valley Energy
[2:11] Center,
a large natural gas energy plant
[2:16] cited less than two miles southeast of
Atkins. First off, we want to thank all
[2:21] of you for the work that you've done so
far on this project, opposing it and
[2:26] speaking to it. We are asking for
assistance with the Iowa Utility
[2:32] Commission letters of objection from
other Benton County cities within the
[2:36] 10M impact zone. My husband Rob Hirsch
has met and worked with many of these
[2:42] cities and the councils. So, this is
where we stand on those letter letters
[2:46] of objection
to the Utilities Commission submitted.
[2:52] Atkins, the city of Fairfax, Benton
County Board of Supervisors, Benton
[2:58] County Conservation Board,
and Norway is conf we're confirming
[3:03] receipt by the IU.
New Hall has indicated yes, they are
[3:07] going to they have yet to submit.
Shellsburg submitted a list of questions
[3:12] to Alliant three weeks ago.
We haven't heard if they got any
[3:16] responses.
said no. So, we're asking Mayor Cruz to
[3:23] reach out to all the cities in Bent
County and the impact area and just have
[3:27] a conversation.
Whether they have yet to submit, they've
[3:32] submitted or choose not or chosen not
to. It just seems like the neighborly
[3:36] thing to do. We're all in this together.
Everybody's going to be impacted to some
[3:40] degree and it might create a sense of
camaraderie and maybe some other other
[3:45] ideas that people have.
Next, to remind those here and online
[3:52] where they're watching live at a later
time, Atkins is the closest city to the
[3:58] power plant and has not been considered
by Lynn County. So, we do matter, folks,
[4:04] and it's time to show up.
So, we have a new calendar which I'll
[4:09] pass out to everybody. There's copies
out here. This information is online.
[4:14] So, the critical dates that are coming
up besides if you feel like getting some
[4:17] of your emotions out, we are going to be
having a protest in front of the Alliant
[4:23] Building tomorrow downtown Cedar Rapids
from noon to 1. We have plenty of signs
[4:28] or you can just hang out, listen. We
handing out information. So, we're going
[4:32] to try to do a little bit on the
offensive just get the word out.
[4:37] So, a couple critical dates. Monday,
September 28th, 6 o'clock, the Lynn
[4:44] County Planning and Zoning Meeting for
the Morgan Valley Energy Center. This is
[4:47] the only they're going to talk about
there. They're having a special planning
[4:50] and zoning meeting at Hotel Kirkwood.
And this is a public comment time, but
[4:56] prior to that, you can email in public
comment. So, you can call down whatever
[5:00] you can do, get the word out.
>> J, I get that right. So that planning
[5:04] zoning commission meeting is at the
hotel Kirkwood.
[5:06] » Yes, they are going to have their
regular one on Monday the 21st, their
[5:11] monthly meeting, but Morgan Valley
Energy Center will not be on the agenda.
[5:16] They're having a special meeting a week
later.
[5:20] And then the other item that will come
up after that, Tuesday, October 20th, I
[5:25] know this is a ways out, 6 pm again at
Hotel Kirkwood. and that is the board of
[5:31] super Lynn County Board of Supervisors
public hearing and the first reading. So
[5:36] where we are right now is Glen County
planning and zoning have are looking
[5:41] over their plan if they're going to
recommend to the supervisors to go ahead
[5:47] and site it or not. So they're kind of
going through their technical review and
[5:52] that's part of the um the 28th where
they hear from people. I don't know if
[5:57] they'll make their decision at that
time. they'll be discussing it, but then
[6:01] the idea is on the 20th, the board of
supervisors will be making a decision or
[6:06] the first reading and hearing from
people and then taking in consideration
[6:10] what the planning and zoning committee
has said. So, those are super critical.
[6:15] There's some other stuff going on um
besides that. So, I'll pass these out to
[6:20] everybody and then I'll put more back
here. And then along with that, I just
[6:26] want to remind people that
Even if you've signed a petition,
[6:32] make sure you file an objection. Either
you go online and these sheets are out
[6:37] there, too. You can do it yourself and
if you get on the docket, you can see
[6:40] what other people have done. And it's
just not you. It's family, too. Kids are
[6:44] doing it. They're concerned about
playing outside. They're concerned about
[6:48] their pets and their friends, all that
kind of stuff. You can also submit
[6:52] multiple times. We also have these
postcards
[6:55] there. Again, there's some out there.
So, whatever we can do, but we gota, you
[7:00] know, contact representatives, talk to
Tom Ghold.
[7:04] Reach out. You know, there's a lot of
information online to do those things.
[7:08] So, it's just not our fight. It's just
not save Morgan Valley's fight. It's
[7:13] everybody because it's going to affect
everybody's quality of life. So, thanks
[7:17] for hearing me out and let's do it
together.
[7:21] » Thank you, J. Thank you.
[7:27] » All right, moving on to new business.
Again, we have moved item A uh down two
[7:34] spots and we're going to start with item
B,
[7:37] proposal from Hawkeye communication for
outdoor video camera system for the
[7:41] wastewater plant, sewer lift station,
and water treatment plant.
[7:46] Scott will uh tell us all about that.
>> Yeah, I think Mayor Dave's going to jump
[7:50] in here. You got in your packet a
proposal from Hawkeye uh communications
[7:56] for installation of the security systems
uh that we have like for example a fire
[8:03] station here at city hall with cameras
and so forth. Uh the proposal would
[8:07] include the wastewater plant. So there'
be two cameras installed at the
[8:10] wastewater plant. Uh also one at our
lift station uh the sewer lift station
[8:16] and then also two at the water treatment
plant. So the What we got from Hawkeye
[8:22] was for $11,81420.
[8:26] Uh that's uh on a cloud-based system. So
storage is pretty much unlimited on that
[8:32] one. David was able to procure one more
quote uh for your consideration. We laid
[8:36] that out. We got that today. Laid that
out here tonight from Atkins Telephone
[8:41] Company here in town. and it is in a
total amount of $8,344.70
[8:49] or the pretty much the exact same type
of um systems here. This one does not uh
[8:56] store it data back to the cloud. So it
does provide a hard drive with one
[9:02] terabyte on each of those hard drives
that we would have. So it wouldn't have
[9:06] quite the capacity that we would have
with the Hawkeye system. So might be
[9:11] some potentially additional cost
associated with a noncloud based system
[9:16] there. So David, I know you want to have
anything further on that.
[9:23] » Yeah, one uh Hawkeye is you're also
going to be paying for an annual
[9:29] subscription for the cloud base. Um ACT
does not. So, it's just one's a little
[9:38] cheaper, but one's going to have
hardware at each place and one's will
[9:43] will not will be on the cloud. The
cloud's going to have unlimited storage
[9:48] and the hardware will have fill up in
time and I don't know how they if they
[9:53] replace it or or get rid of it and start
it over.
[10:02] » In terms of the location, David, so the
placement of the cameras at the
[10:06] wastewater plant. Generally, what areas
would those pick up?
[10:11] » Uh, at the wastewater plant, it'll if we
put it on a corner, it'll pick up some
[10:16] of the uh the system on on the back
side. So, in case uh one of us is
[10:22] walking out there by ourselves, you
know, that we can somebody can see it on
[10:26] camera. Um, it'll and then the other one
will pick up the gate coming in. So, if
[10:31] anybody comes through the gate, comes
in, it'll pick up somebody coming in
[10:34] through the gate.
lift station, just one shining at the
[10:38] gate. So, whoever comes through the
gate, it'll it'll pick that up. And over
[10:42] here at the water plant. Um there's
going to be there's one that's going to
[10:46] be showing on the back doors on the back
side. Uh one on the corner that's going
[10:50] to pick up the restrooms and and the
building over there in case there's
[10:54] anything happens. And then one in the
corner showing the front door um and the
[11:00] garage door going in the front.
And we have had things happen in terms
[11:06] of some vandalis.
[11:12] » Uh so how we just got this from ATC here
this afternoon.
[11:17] » Y
>> how does the equipment compare? I don't
[11:28] » we goose it on AI just to see how long
the data would stay on one terabyte
[11:34] drive, 24-hour continuous videoing at
1080 uh for quality.
[11:41] It's four to six days and it starts
overwriting the system. Um I don't know
[11:46] if that's enough for us, especially out
at the lagoon area. U we'd be able to
[11:54] see if there was some vandalism or an
act or something probably the next day.
[12:00] We could probably
But I don't know about the far sight.
[12:05] » So what we have here we have fire
station uh were on cloud there when they
[12:13] bid the work fire station onto that
contract and have to do these other
[12:18] locations but we pretty much have
unlimited
[12:23] storage. Does
>> Jeremy do you know anything about these
[12:26] one terabyte drives for storage?
[12:32] Yeah.
>> Do you know how long or when we'd be
[12:36] looking at replacing something like
that?
[12:41] » So, it's really going to depend on the
quality of the cameras and how high
[12:49] the transfer rate is. So, it's just
going to come down to that. But I would
[12:53] say it's probably going to be a rolling
probably.
[13:00] So, have you have you seen with the
quote that you had there? You've seen
[13:04] demonstrations of the quality video and
>> I've seen some of the some of the video.
[13:10] They're both I think they're both
equally
[13:13] you know the clarity is pretty good with
both of them.
[13:15] » Okay. So, you have seen some of ATC
stuff?
[13:18] » Yes.
>> Y Okay.
[13:19] » Um ATC takes takes care of uh Castle
Motors. That's one of the places they
[13:25] were talking about. They and but I I
reached out to when Hawkeye come in. I
[13:32] reached out to Haywa and talked to them
the parks there. They they like all
[13:36] their cameras that they have through
Hawkeye. Hawkeye has Cedar Falls,
[13:41] Urbana, Abernet,
so they're familiar with parks and the
[13:48] ATC's here in town. And you know,
local's always
[13:53] better if you can get them.
[14:07] I think that's kind of a tough spot to
get to this great walking into a
[14:13] meeting.
[14:22] We're looking at about a $3,200
difference.
[14:29] Does that include the warranty packages
on these both of these or not?
[14:34] » I do not.
[14:40] » They got sales tax piped in here.
>> Yeah, I
[14:44] they're about
>> know that's another 300 bucks.
[14:46] » Yeah, they're 8300.
[14:52] I guess the only question I have is the
drive um versus the cloud. The cloud is
[14:58] always going to be better. Um if it's a
1080
[15:03] quality, which is the high end,
um that's a wash between the systems.
[15:20] Certainly supporting local business
[15:30] in particular.
[15:35] » I'm kind of on the hard drive versus
cloud.
[15:39] » My instinct is I actually like having
control of the video.
[15:44] We have that hard drive on site, right?
So it can't
[15:47] It's just it's physically ours. Um
but the storage concerns and then the
[15:54] fact that it would be hard on fail.
[16:11] So it's just I'm kind of torn both ways
really. I don't think there's a little
[16:16] bit of cost difference between the two.
I would have to dig in to
[16:23] » I think we need to talk in looking at
ATC's
[16:29] bid. Basically,
it looks like they own the equipment. We
[16:34] don't based on we're paying licensing
fees on Hawkeye.
[16:39] Is that safe to assume that?
>> No.
[16:42] Hawkeye, you're paying licensing fees
for the cloud,
[16:46] » right?
>> And we're not on the cloud with
[16:50] » But I'm just saying the equipment that's
listed for ATC for cost
[16:55] doesn't appear. I don't know. I'm just
asking the question.
[16:58] » The other question I have is
accessibility. Um with the cloud-based,
[17:03] you should be able to anyone with uh
authorization to access it should be
[17:08] access. And I don't know about the hard
drive. um system if that's part of that.
[17:13] I don't know
>> if you can access it also.
[17:15] » You can access it live too.
>> He had it on his he had uh on his phone
[17:20] multiple that he was allowed to have
access to.
[17:25] » You said the equipment was pretty
comparable to both companies
[17:31] » came each have their own their own
camera their own one has hardware one
[17:37] does not. Right.
So the hard wire they can cut.
[17:44] » It's all wireless
>> to the camera or is it wireless?
[17:47] » Wireless.
>> No, they'll have cat five or cat 6.
[17:51] » Yeah. Back into the building like fiber.
[17:58] So it's
not
[18:05] » they're saying um
>> yeah it's just one versus the other.
[18:10] » Right.
>> There's no difference.
[18:14] » There's not
[18:18] » at the end of the day like we're
shooting apples to apples here.
[18:21] » Okay. So, it's just coming down to what
do we want to kind of
[18:28] if we really wanted to do it in house,
but I don't know how much you want to do
[18:32] that
[18:36] person.
[18:44] » In the beginning, but your guys is all
think about your home security. No
[18:49] different
from
[19:05] I've I've installed a lot of these
cameras. I guess I just did them too
[19:09] cheap. But
the labor's quite high if you ask me.
[19:16] » Yeah.
>> For both
[19:23] Scott, can I interject a little bit?
>> Oh, I'm sorry, Bruce. Can I comment just
[19:30] a minute?
>> Bruce,
[19:34] » Brian, I'm sorry.
>> Um, I do have I can talk to you
[19:38] afterwards about I do have some
experience from Arnold
[19:42] » with everything we dealt with out there.
I would say one thing that comes to mind
[19:46] is knowing your hot and cold ratings,
especially the cold. I understand money
[19:52] is limited. You'll never afford what you
normal,
[19:58] but there are issues when you get into
cold weather, things freeze, frost over,
[20:05] you won't see anything even though, you
know, until the sun warms it up.
[20:11] So, I I can interject more
[20:20] If it's food for thought.
>> Yeah.
[20:24] » Well, technology has changed quite a bit
too. So, there is
[20:30] we say it's 260
on those 360.
[20:41] I I don't think we know that.
[20:47] » Okay, we'll call it a bird camera.
[20:58] » Either way, it's just a bird's eye
camera. So, those were there. That kind
[21:03] of causes the element of them not
getting frozen over because it has like
[21:07] a triple core layer on the plastic and
the glass. So it shouldn't freeze ever
[21:12] unless we have like 40 temperatures
consistently.
[21:16] » That's the only time you're going to run
into that.
[21:18] » Okay.
>> Is that
[21:22] » is that the H6L
camera you're talking about?
[21:27] » Yes.
[21:31] » Yep. That would be that one there.
>> That's
[21:35] an interesting
>> perspective.
[21:40] Yeah, the Hawkeye the Hawkeye gear seems
to be true commercial.
[21:45] » I'm I'm on their website now looking at
what they
[21:55] » I mean it's what you're going to see in
schools you know commercial buildings
[22:07] I mean I appreciate both I think
[22:12] whatever direction the staff feels most
comfortable having to deal with.
[22:17] It's kind of where I was
>> either either way
[22:24] I to me it probably be the clock system
just less stuff potentially go wrong
[22:30] you know all that kind of stuff
>> it's a little more
[22:35] you're paying for it too
[22:39] » because
[22:44] from your references
>> yeah I think they're both they're both
[22:47] If there was an issue, they'd both three
right on top of it.
[22:49] » Okay.
>> So,
[22:51] » yeah. To me, it just comes down to one,
you know, cloud and the other the other
[22:56] one's a little more and the other one's
a little less.
[22:58] » I I think we still got some questions to
work through these. Can we table it at
[23:03] least to get the uh service contract
andor warranty information and maybe ask
[23:10] a couple more questions of both vendors
>> possibly. Yeah.
[23:13] » And I think we can make a better
decision. I'm a I think the cloud-based
[23:17] one's a little bit better, but um I
think we deserve that part of it too,
[23:24] you know, whether it's the cold or
whatever. I think those are honest
[23:27] questions to ask.
>> And the service contract is going to be,
[23:32] you know,
>> yeah, there's nothing for service
[23:35] contract
>> first and foremost with a security
[23:37] system or video system. Speaking from a
person that's bought thousands of them
[23:42] for school buses, you need reliability
first and foremost. It doesn't do you
[23:46] any good if it doesn't work
>> if anything.
[23:50] » Yeah. So, we need to make sure it's
reliable and and uh and go from there.
[23:54] So, yeah, I would agree with you, Bob. I
would if I was in a voting position, I
[23:59] would want to ask some questions.
>> Motion to table it until we can get some
[24:03] further info
and we can bring it up the next meeting
[24:08] and vote on it.
>> Motion to table.
[24:12] » Second, Derski.
Any
[24:16] further disc?
[24:21] » Yeah, it looks like it's on a gun turret
that spins off the website. I was just
[24:26] out there looking at it, but
[24:31] any further discussion?
Again, I mean, we're not talking about,
[24:35] you know, huge dollars here, but I think
we we do owe it to ourselves to to make
[24:40] sure we're doing the right things. So,
>> all right. All those in favor say I.
[24:44] » I.
>> I.
[24:47] » All oppose say nay.
Okay.
[24:52] Tabled.
With that we'll move on to item C which
[24:58] is uh a review of the engineering
services agreement for the water
[25:03] distribution system improvement project
by Mr. Flory.
[25:07] » Yeah. Thank you mayor. This is something
kind of came out of those recent water
[25:12] bane break episodes we had up on on
First Street. And so if you recall from
[25:18] our budget, we had allocated $125,000
toward some street patching. And that
[25:25] was part of a project actually was
engineered prior to me coming here. Uh
[25:30] and since we'd already got the plans
paid for, we thought, okay, well, we'll
[25:33] go ahead and pencil that in as a project
for fiscal year 27. Uhhuh. In terms of
[25:39] need, uh I think what I would like to
ask for the council's blessing on is
[25:44] instead of spending that 125,000 from
the general fund on those street
[25:48] patching projects that we would move
that 125,000
[25:53] water distribution system improvements
in particular, this project that I am
[25:58] presenting here tonight. So then that
would be $125,000.
[26:02] We've got some other uh ideas on other
sources of funds, but but I did want to
[26:07] mention that one first. So, that's
really the kind of the genesis of where
[26:11] this project is coming from. And we'll
go through the maps here in a little
[26:14] bit, but but again, back to those two
water main breaks. Again, they're in the
[26:18] same spot. So, not necessarily, you
know, that they weren't related, but you
[26:23] know, we did have those two right there
on first in that location. So, uh,
[26:27] you've got a copy of a proposal from
Snyder Associates. It just cut forward
[26:32] to exhibit A, which is really the, uh,
non boilerplate language, if you will.
[26:38] So, it kind of outlines what the project
is. So, we'll just kind of review that.
[26:42] Uh again, we'd be looking at starting on
First Street from Cardinal Avenue uh
[26:48] through the east intersection of 4th
Avenue, replacing appro approximately
[26:52] 640 ft of 4 in water man with 8 in main.
Uh did confirm with Jared that some of
[26:59] that we have so uh we have about 175 to
200 lineal feet of 8 in already that was
[27:06] extended from Cardinal. So basically
shave about 175 to 200 ft off of that
[27:13] that already has and we'll look at that
in the map here in a minute. Uh but 4th
[27:16] Avenue then from railroad to first
street about 520 ft of 4inch main
[27:22] replace that with 8 inch main. Fourth
Avenue from 1 to 2 replacing 365t
[27:28] of 4 inch main with 8 inch main. Um and
then second street and fifth avenue from
[27:35] fourth to first street it's about 800 ft
that that would be an alternate and then
[27:40] fourth avenue from third street to park
ridge about another 540 ft uh of 8 in
[27:45] main and there is no 8 in main there
we'll look at that uh in a moment here
[27:50] but uh generally the the improvements
include replacing the aging water man as
[27:55] noted above uh add new water man as
described above to provide additional
[28:00] loop move into the system to provide
additional increased fire flows. We'll
[28:04] look at those fire flows in a minute.
So, we'll be able to improve those. Uh
[28:08] replace water service connections to the
main. We'll look at a map here in a
[28:12] little bit. We're under that DNR mandate
to understand what all of the service
[28:18] laterals that connect from the house to
the main are. So, in the bulk of the
[28:22] community, we know what those are and
they're either copper or plastic. Uh but
[28:27] this is an area that would involve about
24 properties and they are in our
[28:32] unknown category. So we don't have data
on what those service lines are now
[28:37] based on the the age of the homes
themselves. Most of these are in the 50s
[28:43] 60s and and maybe a little newer than
that. So highly unlikely that there's
[28:48] any lead probably unlikely even some
galvanized but there probably is going
[28:53] to be some galvaniz but not probably a
lot in that service line so could be
[28:58] copper there but again this would give
us an opportunity to identify what those
[29:02] service lines are knock those 24 or so
off of our DNR inventory that we have to
[29:08] have completed uh in October of 27.
um replace some aging aging isolation
[29:16] valves along each stretch of the water
man. We're grossly deficient in terms of
[29:21] the number of valves that we have. So
that's why sometimes we get into
[29:24] situations where we have to isolate a
larger area of the community that we
[29:28] would like to because we don't have
enough valves and don't have enough
[29:31] working valves. Replace aging fire
hydrants along each stretch of the water
[29:36] man. Additional hydrants would be added
to meet current design standards. So you
[29:39] know we definitely don't meet any of
those regulations in terms of the fire
[29:44] hydrants. Uh and then again just taking
out the uin
[29:50] line. So then in terms of uh pavement
patching and that kind of work what we
[29:55] would do there is probably allow those
trenches to settle over the course of
[30:00] the winter and then probably sometime uh
early summer
[30:05] you know the excavated areas. So uh this
would be a uh special assessment
[30:10] project. So the work from Snyder would
include all necessary uh procedures to
[30:16] involve the uh special assessment
process and I can talk about that one
[30:20] later. Um preliminary schedule in terms
of uh how we see this thing playing out
[30:25] would be council would uh approve the
contract tonight. Preliminary plans into
[30:30] the DNR in October. uh final plans in
December, targeting a biding in
[30:36] February, and then hopefully
construction spring summer of 27. As we
[30:41] know, no state or federal funds are
utilized for this project. All would be
[30:45] local local funds.
[30:53] The total for the workers
have laid out
[31:05] Thereage three.
>> There we go. Uh 60,500
[31:11] for that.
And then in terms of the maps, just kind
[31:15] of want to look at those with you a
little bit. I included those in your
[31:18] packet. So first map in your packet, uh
you can see the area. We'll start over
[31:24] there at Cardinal on first and look at
heading east. So, what I talked about
[31:29] that 8 inch line that's in in there
already, it's already into Cardinal past
[31:34] that uh twin culverts that are in there,
the drainage culverts there. So, it's on
[31:38] the other side of those. So, that 8 inch
line is uh east from Cardinal probably
[31:44] close to 200 feet there. So, we would
pick up that 8 inch line, run it as I've
[31:49] identified there in the yellow uh to the
east on first to that hydrant area over
[31:54] there, then north and tie into that 8
in. So, railroad in that area has an 8
[32:00] inch line. So, we would tie into that 8
inch line on railroad, tie into that 8
[32:05] inch line on Cardinal, and then bring
the 8 in line down uh fourth and tie
[32:11] into an 8 inch line that's kind of out
in front of the school there uh up by
[32:17] Second Street there. So, that would be
the base project. The alternates would
[32:22] be then to add the water line from
Parkridge. Uh and that is in a tiff
[32:27] district actually. Uh the fourth avenue
section there is alternate one. So that
[32:31] would be a potential opportunity for uh
some funding there. But that would be
[32:36] running that water man from Park Ridge
and tying into that 8 in. So that would
[32:41] be just absolutely phenomenal
improvement for that school and that
[32:48] area in terms of the fire flows and uh
water quality and those kinds of things.
[32:53] Uh the alternate two is again more or
less because we're right in that area uh
[32:58] to pick up the rest of those that that's
got some pretty bad infrastructure there
[33:03] as well.
>> Is that where the fire hydrant is?
[33:07] » Yep.
>> That's so bad. Yeah.
[33:09] » Yeah. Uh the next page is just kind of a
repeat, but it shows again what the
[33:15] water lines are in terms of their
existing capacity and just lays out the
[33:20] alternates and the base. The next sheet
is the one that I mentioned earlier that
[33:24] we're working on for our uh lead and
copper with the DNR. And you can see the
[33:30] areas that we have no known lead or
known lead uh known galvanized known
[33:35] copper. So in this particular area, most
all of those are uh colored red. So we
[33:41] mean that means we don't know what those
service lines are. So we would learn
[33:46] that as part of this project. Part of an
assessment process would be uh to assess
[33:51] those new water service lines to the
individual properties if they need
[33:55] upgraded uh to upgrade those. Uh the
next sheet is more recent analysis that
[34:02] we had Snyder do and take a look at when
they were looking potential addition for
[34:07] uh Stone Ridge phase five over there
just to show again what the existing
[34:12] maximum daily pressures are. Uh with the
tower level level at 26 feet, that is
[34:18] generally the lowest lowest operating
level that we have the tower at during
[34:22] the day. Uh typically it's running at
about 31 and a half 32 feet. Uh so you
[34:28] can see kind of get a feel for what
those pressures are. I think you've
[34:31] heard me say ironically again in this
particular area where we had that water
[34:35] main break uh that area actually has the
highest PSI uh for our community uh you
[34:42] know north of 55. Uh the next sheet
shows again what those pressure contours
[34:48] look like with the water tower full
which would be 33 feet. Uh so you can
[34:52] kind of again get an idea what
everybody's water pressure looks like in
[34:57] that level. Uh the next one's probably
more interesting is the fire flow
[35:01] availability. Uh so you can see in the
area that we're uh looking at for
[35:07] portion of these improvements, we're at
750 gallons per minute. So that is that
[35:11] is definitely uh below what the DNR
would recommend. That's a thousand is
[35:17] what's recommended there. So so we would
definitely uh improve that substantially
[35:22] by looping it and connecting it to those
two 8 inch mains. Another area that
[35:28] we'll have to be addressing here at some
point is over there on uh A Avenue. You
[35:32] see those are very low U fires over
there.
[35:37] Uh the next sheet I just kind of
calculated out some some distances there
[35:42] in terms of what front uh lineal footage
uh we'd be looking at for the project.
[35:46] So we kind of went over over some of
those earlier. So, uh, I think, uh, you
[35:52] know, we've had some, uh, DNR surveys
that have been done over the years.
[35:58] They've not specifically addressed
issues related to replacement of
[36:03] undersized main. So, these 4in lines, 6
in lines where we've got hydrants on 6
[36:08] in line, uh, that is not in compliance
with today's standards. Obviously, can't
[36:14] be anything on less than an 8 inch line.
We've got number of hydrants on on 6 in
[36:18] lines but this would definitely be an
area when we look at the study that
[36:23] Snider had done in 2019 2020 and it
identified really uh a couple of the
[36:30] more problematic areas in the community.
I think they identify about three to
[36:34] four and this knocks out two of them. So
in terms of the school being under
[36:42] » on an 8 inch line, what would the
pressure be required? Still 40
[36:46] » uh for the we'd be north of that
>> 55.
[36:49] » Yeah, I think we'll be
>> that's
[36:53] back back to his four areas that they
identified in that study in December
[36:58] 27th, 2019. And this was considering
only the 4-in line neighborhoods was uh
[37:05] uh the obviously the lumber yard area.
Uh specifically they called out uh the
[37:12] 4th Avenue region uh by the school and
third street and uh and the other two
[37:22] were uh like High Point Drive. They they
talked about the lows that'll be
[37:27] available up there as well. They don't
call out a because they focused on the 4
[37:31] inch there, not the 6 inch on a Avenue.
That's noticeably bad. So,
[37:37] » so I really like the opportunity even at
the base package. So, again, as I
[37:43] mentioned, if we bid this out, we'd have
a base package, which would be probably
[37:47] somewhere around that 1,400 lineal feet
of 4 inch line, replacing that with 8
[37:53] inch line. Then we'd have the alternate
one. Can't remember the distance on
[37:57] that. Might be like about 500 ft or so
going bridge up to third. Uh that would
[38:02] be I think again a high priority for for
me as I look at this project because
[38:07] then you'd be tying in with that 8 in up
on railroad all the way down to an 8 in
[38:12] on car bridge all the way over into an 8
in on Cardinal and then in issues where
[38:18] properties that lie east of this became
problematic in terms of a break. We'd
[38:23] have new valves all through this area.
you wouldn't get into a situation where
[38:27] you have to shut a large area off
because one area was affected. So, so I
[38:33] really like the opportunity here to to
reallocate some funding that I think in
[38:38] light of what we know know with the
recent breaks there to kind of
[38:43] repprioritize that funding towards what
I think is a higher need than doing some
[38:48] some street patching. And I think again
in terms of uh the the future funding
[38:53] opportunities, uh we've got that uh
Trevor, I know you and I talked about
[38:57] this a lot, that one issue, that one
final year on that note is rolling off.
[39:02] That's about 107,000. Uh so we can kind
of reshuffle some things like to try to
[39:08] keep that 107,000
on and then add that to the 125 uh that
[39:15] we could reallocate. Then I think uh
we've also got some opportunities to do
[39:20] some interf loan agreements as far as
like the tip on that alternate one since
[39:24] that's in a in a tip district. So uh
yeah, I think it lays out pretty well.
[39:29] Bob and I have talked quite a bit shall
at some point I really want to get going
[39:34] on the franchise fees for our utilities
uh gas and electric. This would be a
[39:39] great use for that 1% franchise fee. Or
if you want to consider even a little
[39:44] more than that, like a lot of
communities have, you could add that on
[39:48] and then fund these improvements or
something like that too.
[39:56] In terms of special assessments, uh this
is something that many communities do uh
[40:02] in particular where uh there are
extraordinary benefits to particular
[40:08] property. So again, in this particular
project, we're talking probably about 24
[40:12] homes affected here. Uh you know, there
about close to 800 homes uh in the
[40:17] community uh in that neighborhood. So
the theory of the special assessment is
[40:22] that those who are receiving the highest
benefit of these improvements should
[40:27] contribute to those to the cost of those
improvements. Uh what I would propose in
[40:32] this and we're we're nowhere near there,
but something like this to me would be
[40:36] obviously I think it's a bit of a
no-brainer that you would assess for uh
[40:40] replacement of inferior service lines
that only serve those homes. Uh and then
[40:46] I would suggest a 5050 uh on the pipe
replacement. So, we're upgrading the 4
[40:52] in main, this 4in cast iron pipe, I
would suggest a 5050 partnership on
[40:59] part of the assessment process.
>> So, David, if there was a valve there at
[41:05] fourth and first when we had that break
in that first outage, we had to shut off
[41:10] 74 homes. How many homes would have been
affected if a valve would have been
[41:14] there?
>> What was it? 75 or so. What? Well,
[41:17] whatever just a block would be it should
have been every 300 350 should be a
[41:23] valve. So between each block
essentially. So what whatever's in a
[41:29] block five houses.
>> Yeah.
[41:32] » Of 10 for if you count both sides.
>> Right. Yeah. Okay. So that's what jumped
[41:36] out at me is because when I was down
there he pointed out where the 8 inch
[41:40] man was and it is in it is on the the
east side of the cover. Um, so I think
[41:46] you said about 300 to 320 feet to First
Street, but the next valve is up over
[41:52] the hill another three or 400 feet.
>> So you're 7 800 feet to get to about to
[41:58] shut that down. And that's why it
affects so many homes. So
[42:02] » um, you know, it's kind of kind of comes
simultaneously with our
[42:07] » with our other project uh, boosting
pressure. I think actually we were
[42:12] coming to talk about that at the last
meeting when we found out that that
[42:16] water mane broke again. Um so um kind of
funny how things work that way, but uh
[42:23] uh you know at the very least having
having that you know that that chunk
[42:28] done in a valve there where you know and
the connection to to the 8 inch on
[42:34] railroad and cardinal makes a lot of
sense.
[42:37] most importantly increases the fire flow
for that whole district uh to include
[42:42] the school who will be in on the 5050 as
well.
[42:46] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's a it's a sorely needed area.
[42:50] » It was identified eight years ago and
>> we have a chance to do it now based on a
[42:56] break that we never really really got a
chance to really take a close look at
[43:00] the maps
>> until the second break happened.
[43:03] And uh I think it's a win-win uh for the
city
[43:07] » going forward that that area would not
qualify for CDBG
[43:13] » and even if they did it would take
>> uh quite a long time to get it done.
[43:18] » Yeah.
>> And you're competing with that. There's
[43:22] absolutely no guarantee that 24 homes
would be a small project to compete
[43:27] with. probably wouldn't get much and I
don't know that you're going to meet the
[43:30] low income requirement in that area. Uh
so yeah, the grant opportunities are
[43:37] » human
[43:41] » and St. Steven's church isn't that far
away.
[43:45] » Correct.
>> Right now we're just looking at
[43:48] » uh just design.
>> Yep. Yep. So uh but yeah so looking at
[43:53] design uh but his proposal would include
uh you know all those services for
[43:57] special assessment
>> which would have to be determined after
[44:03] we get designed and we try to fit this.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[44:16] » Yeah. It's it's something that's very
done.
[44:19] Atkins uh but it's done very very very
>> well
[44:25] I was first home in Kansas was a new
development with special tax assessments
[44:31] and that's where I have I
at least you're moving eyes wide open
[44:37] this is what it is to run the water run
the roads run this development that
[44:42] people buy into that understand it's
focusing existing homes now facing
[44:47] assessment, I guess.
[44:53] » And there'd be public hearings, right,
SC?
[44:55] » Oh, yeah.
>> There's just a lot of steps to fill
[44:58] before it even would be approved.
>> Yeah,
[45:01] » that's good. Where they'd be able to
come forward,
[45:04] » but it's really in that. So, just to
give you a little historical benefit,
[45:08] there's many projects that we did like
the special assessment. Nobody really
[45:13] wants to be assessed. Uh, but when it's
that has a real meaningful gain to the
[45:19] property. We'd have some projects where
some people would come up to the podium
[45:22] and say, "Well, I really don't want to
pay for it, but it's badly needed." And
[45:26] may have to say, "Well, so are you a for
or against?" Well,
[45:32] » you know, but uh but I sure like to see
the furniture. Just didn't want to pay
[45:36] for it.
>> Nobody likes
[45:39] » Well, what the actual increment is,
right? My my experience was it was
[45:45] substantial.
>> Yeah. to pay it off over 10 years. So,
[45:48] so yeah, we've had some we had some
15 20,000 but service line might be, you
[45:55] know,
maybe for service line,
[46:00] you know, paid off over 10 years with
your taxes. So, I don't think these are
[46:04] anything that's going to put anybody
out.
[46:08] » And there's also the preliminary
assessment schedule. So,
[46:14] » that gets out to the public in advance
as a you know it's kind of an estimated
[46:19] cost.
>> Yeah. It's not
[46:21] » so it's and it's a it's a process to it.
So
[46:24] » so they'll know exactly could be this is
the amount it's usually conservative
[46:28] amount.
But yeah, when you're looking at fire
[46:33] flow improvements, water quality, you're
not drinking out of a 75 main any
[46:38] longer. You're not drinking out of a old
potentially older service line that runs
[46:43] to your house. Those are all very
[46:51] » in this area.
>> And doesn't it help with insurance?
[46:56] » It should definitely. Yes.
>> It'll improve your ISO rating for your
[47:00] home.
>> Yeah.
[47:01] » Yeah. Because right now they're under
that. So So at some point, you know,
[47:06] there's got to be like a meeting sort of
a halfway. Everybody wants, you know,
[47:11] government to pay for everything. There
just isn't
[47:14] for all that
>> and that's sign probably why things
[47:18] advanced too far. Uh but I'm excited
about the opportunity to not only
[47:22] address you things that were listed in
the DNR sanitary report about the the
[47:27] low water pressure but but here we are
uh you know very shortly into this this
[47:31] term here. Uh and here's an opportunity
that we're kind of presenting to to take
[47:37] a real progressive role in taking out
1500 ft maybe more of some of the worst
[47:44] water man in town. I think we do.
>> How long does the DNR give you to get in
[47:51] compliance?
>> Oh, there's there's not.
[47:54] » Okay.
>> There's no mandate, you know, and and
[47:57] we've had people say, "Oh, you're under
a mandate to replace that." No.
[48:01] And every every survey and I got one
right here, but uh every survey there is
[48:06] no mention of the 4 in maintenance
replacement.
[48:09] » Now businesses they give you a a date.
>> Yeah. No, they do mention the pressure.
[48:14] » Not like not like the the the
>> not like the wash,
[48:18] » right?
>> The threeear inspections. That's
[48:21] some of those items are different.
>> Why
[48:25] not? uh just because they had the
background. Uh could could have RFP it
[48:30] out. Uh but they've got pretty good
background with the city. Uh seemed like
[48:35] a pretty easy transition. I do think the
the prices I don't think you're going to
[48:40] see a big sale. Okay.
>> Somewhere else on that.
[48:45] » Well, that would be my question because
I think council members would get some
[48:48] questions and I and I'm sure I will too.
is I mean is there any benefit to doing
[48:53] to mo moving forward with this now or
benefit to waiting till we see what what
[48:58] uh uh
>> and Kim
[49:01] » Vanster and Kim comes back with an
overall proposal? I I don't know but
[49:04] those are questions those are questions
we'll get and we we want to make sure we
[49:08] understand.
>> Yeah. No, there definitely would not. I
[49:09] mean these this is going back into the
2019 2020. So I mean it's that that
[49:14] diagnosis there. I think it's
legitimate. This is an old old man.
[49:20] » It's not getting any better.
>> No, I mean that's been a concern for a
[49:24] very long time.
>> Yeah, I know. It's not all of a sudden
[49:27] somebody else can look and say, "Gee,
that 4 inch man is
[49:30] great." I mean, you know, it's you got
the school there. This is this is this
[49:38] is bad in
nobody's going to say, "Yeah, you missed
[49:42] the vote on this."
So yeah, we know we have a big uh again
[49:47] a big elephant with all the 4 inch man
in town where we're going to have to
[49:50] start
>> somewhere and and this is a high
[49:53] priority area that
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean one
[49:57] » one bite you got to do it one time. This
is I think I don't think the town is
[50:03] probably in 15 years maybe more taken
out how much 4 in line
[50:11] » that
I don't I don't think there hasn't been
[50:15] a water project since
>> you're on
[50:19] » I mean I can tell you this 4in line is
not good you know that from your past
[50:25] reports we know what we have
Yeah, it's that needs to be replaced.
[50:33] » You know, the pressure.
[50:40] » I would make a motion to approve the
engineering services agreement with the
[50:44] 2026 water distribution system
improvement project.
[50:51] » Motion stolen. Second. Not. Any further
discussion?
[50:58] Jeremy.
[51:04] » We lost him. He has said he had a bad
connection.
[51:06] » Okay.
[51:10] » All right. Uh, all those in favor say I.
>> I.
[51:13] » I.
>> Okay.
[51:16] » I just say thanks again for that. I
think that's uh we're not there yet, but
[51:21] you take bold steps. Uh,
[51:26] full up there. So, but again, you got to
act to do something. Like I said,
[51:32] nobody's going to come in and replace
that line for us.
[51:35] » We're going to have to do it again. And
it means getting busy and getting it
[51:38] done and making it happen. Sometimes,
uh,
[51:42] » it ain't easy.
>> We're taking a step in the direction,
[51:48] right?
>> Financing question.
[51:51] » Yeah. And I'm not concerned about it.
Yeah. I'm really not. I mean this where
[51:55] we're not so like clear like we put in
all new street water sewer sidewalks
[52:00] laterals. This is just the water thing.
>> Well that's yeah it's not like this is a
[52:06] strip mall like right this is essential
infrastructure. It's it's it's not uh
[52:11] you know it's uncontested that it has to
be replaced. Correct.
[52:14] » Right.
>> And so we at least need to understand
[52:18] what replacing it cost. Right. No,
absolutely. But I don't want it to be
[52:22] one of those where, you know, we buy the
plans and then never get away. We got to
[52:27] execute on it. So, I think it's a great
project. Uh the distribution system is,
[52:33] you know, water's lifeblood of the
community after air, you got to have
[52:37] water and this is, you know, 75 year old
infrastructure. Long long past.
[52:44] » Yep.
>> Absolutely.
[52:47] Okay. All right. Back to uh new business
item A. I believe uh we have our guest
[52:55] here for a uh review of the Benton
County multi-jurisdictional local hazard
[53:00] mitigation plan.
>> I'll give a quick introduction. Robin,
[53:03] if you want to just review the plan, but
council, you got a copy in your packet.
[53:08] Uh resolution approving the
multi-jurisdictional local hazard
[53:11] mitigation plan. Uh also provided the
one that was approved back in 2021.
[53:17] So updated every five years. Probably
the most uh that and I know you've all
[53:21] got copy of that. The most thing
important thing I guess I could tell you
[53:25] about it is it's a it's a prerequisite
for any sort of funding for FEMA or you
[53:30] know Department of Homeland Security any
of those kinds of improvements pre-
[53:34] disaster post disaster. If you don't
have this plan you're not going to be
[53:38] eligible for any of those uh grant
dollars. Now, there are obviously more
[53:43] reasons to do the plan than than just be
concerned about grand dollars, but for a
[53:47] finance person, that's what's kind of on
on my mind. But again, it looks at So,
[53:52] this was in collaboration with all of
the other cities in Benton County. I
[53:56] think Robin, you did the update for
every city in in Benton County. So,
[54:00] obviously, we all share the same kinds
of weather patterns and all these kinds
[54:05] of things. So the the theory is that we
don't really all need necessarily our
[54:09] own individual standalone plan but we
could all operate under the emergency
[54:15] management agency's opices contract and
have one countywide plan that has uh
[54:21] compartmentalized every community with
all the information that we have
[54:26] particularized to each of our
communities there. So, I I do want to
[54:29] recognize Bob for your extensive work
and helping review all of this and get,
[54:34] you know, some updates added to that as
well. And uh we shared those with Robin
[54:39] over the last I don't it's been probably
eight, nine months or right somewhere
[54:43] there. So, yeah.
>> Yeah.
[54:44] » So, I know you want to add any more or
>> you basically covered it. It is a
[54:49] fiveyear update. FEMA requires it be
updated every five years. So, we take a
[54:53] look at what's happened over the past
five years and see how that changes. um
[54:58] priorities and um you know back in 2020
when this was being done, we were just
[55:05] getting into um COVID and so there was a
you know some actions included about
[55:11] stocking up on medical supplies and and
um some of that that type thing that now
[55:19] having gone through that most
communities have decided that they don't
[55:23] really need to make that a community um
specific action because we all work
[55:29] closely with our county public health
and with state public health and so um
[55:34] that was one of the changes
incorporating some of the information
[55:37] from the do was one of the changes from
the last um from the last plan so it's
[55:43] just a chance to update um there's been
some growth in your community in the
[55:47] past five years so updating all those
demographics as well so that if you um
[55:52] when you do go after some funding um for
any of these projects or if your
[55:57] community were affected by a a disaster
that um warranted a presidential
[56:03] declaration, you'd have this plan in
place and all of the actual political
[56:08] jurisdictions in the county
participated. So, not only the
[56:11] communities, but your school districts
and um and then there's a couple
[56:16] utilities in Venton that are considered
political jurisdictions. So, they
[56:21] participated as well. So, one plan
covers all of those jurisdictions. Um
[56:27] and FEMA recognizes that. So right now
the plan's being reviewed at the state
[56:31] level. It'll go on after that to Kansas
City to FEMA region 7 for approval. And
[56:37] part of the process to have it
completely approved is to have each of
[56:42] those um jurisdictions adopt the plan um
by resolution. So that's what we're
[56:49] asking.
>> How many of the other cities I know
[56:51] Shellsburg had it on their agenda for
tonight too? Everybody also got their
[56:55] own.
>> Um I've just been receiving
[57:00] a few this week. So it's it's just
depends on when council meetings were
[57:04] were scheduled. Yeah.
>> And I just add we did post a link on our
[57:09] website and social media just to
comment.
[57:14] » Did you receive any?
>> Pretty quiet. Pretty quiet.
[57:19] » Yeah.
>> Takes a while to read.
[57:23] Yeah, it is pretty big.
>> Mayor said all about 427
[57:28] » sheriff's department or fire department
or anything.
[57:30] » They did.
No objection.
[57:34] » No.
[57:41] » Motion to approve the 2026 Benton County
multi-jurisdictional
[57:45] local hazard mitigation plan.
>> Second.
[57:51] » So,
Do we need to talk about that language
[57:54] there? We're approving the resolution.
Correct.
[57:58] » Right. That's I believe that that would
probably be what
[58:00] » Okay. Motion to approve resolution
number 2026-09-01.
[58:07] » Sorry.
>> Okay. And a motion and a second.
[58:15] Any further discussion, council?
Okay. We will have a uh roll call vote
[58:22] for the city by the city clerk.
>> Deonner
[58:24] » I.
>> Derski.
[58:25] » Hi.
>> Nut.
[58:27] » Hi.
>> Stolen.
[58:28] » I
[58:32] resolution passes.
[58:36] With that, let's see if I can find my
way back here. We get to city
[58:41] administrators report.
>> Yeah, thanks. Just a couple things real
[58:44] quick. uh going to give an update on the
T traffic engineering assistance program
[58:49] funding request for safe route to school
study. Uh very happy to report that the
[58:55] DOT did uh approve that funding request.
So that does fund a certain number of
[59:01] consultant hours. I forget the total
number of hours that they so maybe 100
[59:05] and some hours that they'll contribute a
consultant time uh into developing uh
[59:10] what for us I hope will be a safe route
to school application for next year uh
[59:15] you know involving crosswalks and
sidewalks and all of those kinds of uh
[59:19] things. So definitely appreciate the
quick turnaround. I guess we just got
[59:23] lucky and hit the right time. So just
goes back to I think a conversation we
[59:27] had at one of those coffees and I think
Jay you and Trevor kind of brought that
[59:30] up and so I reached out and we had
strong interest uh school had heard
[59:35] about so I heard from some folks from
the school uh area residents and then
[59:39] Cardinal area got some feedback from
them that want to be involved in it. So
[59:44] uh really looking forward to that. So at
some point we'll have probably an
[59:47] agreement between the city and the DOT
for that that study that'll be
[59:51] presented. So no cost to the city.
Uh yeah, even better.
[59:56] » That was a quick turnaround.
>> It was really quick. We're lucky on
[59:59] that. Uh and then I just want to mention
that uh Liant was here. Uh David, I
[1:00:04] don't know if you want to add on that,
but Lion was here putting the electric
[1:00:07] into the new uh entry gateway sign
there. So, looks like they got all of
[1:00:11] that done. I was the uh contractor for
Alliant putting lines underground and
[1:00:16] they're waiting for Alliant to come in
and set the meter
[1:00:20] » and then Wayne will come in and
>> Yep.
[1:00:22] » finished all off.
>> Y but they did get the lines all in
[1:00:26] » the to the meter pest.
>> Yep. Okay.
[1:00:29] » Yep. To the meter pest.
>> Okay. So, we're and hopefully
[1:00:33] » getting closer. Excellent.
>> Excellent.
[1:00:37] » That's all I got.
>> That's all you got? Okay. retired
[1:00:40] » mayor's report. Just a couple of things.
Um attended a a mayor's meeting over in
[1:00:45] Fairfax on Friday. That was a time well
spent. Uh few eastern Iowa mayors there
[1:00:50] and we uh we had a discussion with an
attorney about data centers and the
[1:00:56] things we're learning about data centers
and kind of by default power plants um
[1:01:01] that kind of go along with that. So um
one discussion I just a discussion point
[1:01:07] maybe for future um that I took away
from that was the the the really strong
[1:01:12] suggestion is that cities particularly
small cities um get uh moratoriums
[1:01:21] uh if if they so choose in place until
ordinances can be created regarding
[1:01:28] those things. So something for us I
think to think about. Um
[1:01:33] » and again
>> I'd agree with that.
[1:01:36] » I mean you look we don't have a big
chunk of ground where things can happen
[1:01:40] right in our incorporated area but that
is not how it happens all the time. Um
[1:01:44] so uh we try to annex things into small
cities and without any kind of plan in
[1:01:49] place. Um and so a moratorum is not
saying we'd never allow that or consider
[1:01:54] that. It's putting that in place so that
ordinances can be uh researched
[1:02:01] » and developed and and in place so you
can control what happens in your
[1:02:05] incorporated area. So I think that again
I kind of maybe crudely uh early on uh
[1:02:11] this year said we need to look at doing
something like that and and now we have
[1:02:15] a more succinct legal way of doing that.
So I think we need to consider doing
[1:02:19] that. Um,
second, I just want to, you know, props
[1:02:24] to the Legion and and getting people
involved in the Avenue of Flags. There's
[1:02:28] a lot more flags out there. I love that
and it it looks great in the community
[1:02:31] and and, uh, they're keeping them up
through September 11th, which is
[1:02:36] fantastic. So, um, props to the Legion.
If folks don't have that, it's a great
[1:02:40] fundraiser for the Legion. I'd encourage
you to get involved in that. So um then
[1:02:45] the last thing again maybe just kind of
throwing throwing things out there a
[1:02:49] little fishing maybe future discussions
but
[1:02:53] um I've given I thought and talked to a
lot of you about um maybe having a
[1:02:59] public forum discussion time in our
meetings. Maybe not every meeting, maybe
[1:03:04] periodically we would do such a thing
where maybe we'd review inquiries that
[1:03:08] come in by email um information requests
and talk about those things publicly. Um
[1:03:16] number one to build confidence with our
people that that do send inquiries that
[1:03:20] they know that we're looking at them and
we're addressing them and taking them
[1:03:23] seriously.
But I also think there's an opportunity
[1:03:27] for us uh because I think none of us
want to go out in social media and argue
[1:03:32] with people. And I think that's very
wise not to do that. But maybe we could
[1:03:37] discuss some of the things that go on
internet land in a public setting so
[1:03:43] that we can have a public discussion
about those kind of things and
[1:03:46] particularly things that just aren't
correct.
[1:03:51] » Just
food for thought. I don't know. Uh could
[1:03:55] be inviting more, you know, issues. I
don't know. But I think it's something
[1:04:00] worth talking about.
Um because we don't want to ga engage in
[1:04:05] a non-public setting, maybe we can bring
it to a public setting. And and again, I
[1:04:09] want I want
>> I want our citizens to feel like if
[1:04:12] they've got if they've if they've take
the time to send an email and they've
[1:04:16] got a concern that they're requesting
assistance from us on that they know
[1:04:20] that they're being addressed and we're
discussing them as well.
[1:04:25] Just food for thought.
[1:04:30] » That's why your coffee thing was a huge
step
[1:04:33] » and we will continue that and maybe
that's
[1:04:36] » correct. Right.
>> Next month.
[1:04:38] » October 17th. Yes.
>> It's the next one. Y and maybe that's
[1:04:42] where we incorporate that. I just I
think we could think about those kind of
[1:04:45] things and uh
>> maybe improve the communication a little
[1:04:50] bit.
[1:04:55] Next up, we have the consent agenda.
>> Just info. Um, the bank wreck reports
[1:05:00] were not available tonight, but the rest
was in the packet.
[1:05:14] So, the consent agenda includes uh the
August 25th city council meeting
[1:05:19] minutes, approval of bills and claims
submitted by the clerk. Uh not all the
[1:05:24] financial reports.
>> All the financial reports, treasures
[1:05:27] report, revenue and expense except for
the bank record.
[1:05:30] » Except for the bank reconciliation,
>> right?
[1:05:34] » Uh the August 26 2026 utility trial
balance and R reports approval of
[1:05:40] renewal of a class B retail native wine
license for Central City Family
[1:05:46] Pharmacy. Uh also known as Atkins Family
Pharmacy. Uh and approval of ownership
[1:05:52] change for Casey's General Store 401
Stone Brook Drive for their class E
[1:05:57] retail license, alcohol license, tobacco
license.
[1:06:01] » So Casey's What's Casey's doing here?
just ownership changes to their
[1:06:07] » corporate. Yeah.
[1:06:11] » Several times,
>> especially with a new building.
[1:06:14] » Okay.
>> Cuz it's like, didn't they build it?
[1:06:22] » And they're doing that in other
communities.
[1:06:24] » Every community does pretty much. Yeah.
Every every place where there's a
[1:06:28] tobacco or alcohol license or there's a
Casey store, every city gets the same
[1:06:33] ownership change.
>> Okay.
[1:06:36] » But they keep the
>> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
[1:06:41] » Okay.
[1:06:44] » Do we have a motion?
[1:06:49] » I'll make a motion to approve the
cassette agenda.
[1:06:52] » Motion to Milner.
[1:06:59] Second not
any further discussion.
[1:07:05] All those in favor say I. I.
>> I.
[1:07:09] » Unanimous.
[1:07:12] All right. We move on to other business.
Uh we'll start with David back there.
[1:07:18] You got anything? Anything else? Nope.
Okay.
[1:07:21] » Just give me some uh questions for the
two
[1:07:25] camera stuff in the next couple days and
I'll I'll get all that for you.
[1:07:29] » Okay, sounds good.
>> Shelly,
[1:07:33] » no.
>> Nope.
[1:07:35] » Bob,
>> I got a couple. Um,
[1:07:38] I sent an email back to Scott and to
you, Mayor, and to Dan, Chief Dan
[1:07:44] Ramlesburg, about the emergency
management uh uh course conference is
[1:07:50] going to be over in Walke in October. I
may that I don't know. We'll talk some
[1:07:55] more about it, but it does tabletop uh
disaster drills.
[1:08:00] » What do you know what the dates are?
>> I believe it's October 16th
[1:08:06] and it's a tabletop presented by the
emergency management crew out of the
[1:08:10] state and uh with some city inputs on
what they went through some of the I'm
[1:08:14] assuming like Greenfield or whoever out
there who went through some of the
[1:08:17] tornado business. Um, Chief Ramlesburg
did send out call stats to Scott and I
[1:08:24] just before the meeting. And just to let
you know, they they're ahead of schedule
[1:08:28] again for about the fifth year in a row
for calls. And if you haven't noticed in
[1:08:32] the morning, I know a lot of people go
to work. I'm retired. I don't do much
[1:08:35] that there is a ton of calls in the
early morning. So, those guys that are
[1:08:39] responding uh in the morning, there's
not many of them, but they've been on
[1:08:44] numerous calls over the last couple
weeks between probably 6 a.m. and 9 a.m.
[1:08:50] whether they're going out to Highway 30
for whatever or I see area ambulance
[1:08:54] tearing into town on 33rd Avenue. So
those guys are doing stellar work and it
[1:08:59] looks like they're going to quite
possibly go after another record which
[1:09:03] is nothing to be happy about. But as
this thing pushes forward uh with the
[1:09:08] power plant if it comes to attrition,
it's going to pick up quite a bit for
[1:09:13] him. So, uh, I think we need to probably
sit down with Dan and sometime make sure
[1:09:18] that anything we can do to help them
recruit EMS and fire here over the next
[1:09:24] three to five years is going to be
pretty critical because there's a bunch
[1:09:27] of older people over there about ready
to turn south, too. And, uh, I think
[1:09:32] it's important we got to have that
conversation with them. Um, the only
[1:09:36] other thing I want to talk about is that
when I was in here going through, it's a
[1:09:42] lot easier to come in here and read
council minutes and agendas than looking
[1:09:46] online through past council meeting and
agendas. I was in there looking for like
[1:09:51] water stuff and conversations and
packets and trying to figure out what
[1:09:55] was agreed to prior, what was said so we
can kind of logically think out our
[1:10:00] water issues in this town. and I came
across a couple troubling areas uh not
[1:10:07] pertaining to the water
but I don't want to go into too much
[1:10:11] detail that with the expenditures
uh that I came upon came upon I found
[1:10:19] that and I presented it to Scott and um
you know I I would like to request that
[1:10:25] we have a close session to discuss uh
specifically the period of 2021 21 to
[1:10:32] 23, maybe 24, but 21 to 23 just to
discuss those items between the the five
[1:10:39] of us and the mayor and Shelley and
Scott and possibly the lawyer. Uh to
[1:10:46] discuss those to figure out what the
best way to present that to the public
[1:10:50] to be fully transparent. Um,
I I think it it'll let us verify the
[1:10:57] public how the public money was intended
to be spent and it gives the residents
[1:11:03] confidence that we're we're being one
transparent and accountable to every tax
[1:11:08] dollar whether the five or six or seven
of us at this table that weren't here
[1:11:12] during those time frames. U we can
discuss that and how to present that.
[1:11:17] That doesn't mean jump right off the
deep end and say we're going to request
[1:11:21] a special
I don't, you know, that's an option, but
[1:11:25] I don't know if we need to do anything
like that. But I think the best thing to
[1:11:29] do is to sit down, talk about it as a
group, and then how we want to roll that
[1:11:35] out in the future. I don't I don't think
there's any um
[1:11:40] uh criminal activity. I'm not a lawyer
anyway, but I I'm pretty sure there's
[1:11:44] not, but there's uh probably a financial
irregularity at at the worst. uh that
[1:11:52] needs to be presented and how we want to
handle that.
[1:11:57] So I would vote ask for uh a close
session be scheduled by the city
[1:12:05] administrator and the mayor at the near
future where we can discuss these
[1:12:09] issues.
>> I'll get Doug and see what
[1:12:19] » anything else? No, sir.
>> I'm good.
[1:12:25] » J,
[1:12:32] » how many?
>> Oh, you more recent.
[1:12:36] » I saw that.
>> Oh, it's looking even better. I can't
[1:12:39] remember. We got another batch in here
the other day and Oh, it's looking
[1:12:43] fantastic. You know, I'm excited. Not
have a ton of people watch our meetings,
[1:12:47] but when we have that now, we'll be able
to Simoc cast three different places
[1:12:52] basically uh cast on YouTube, Facebook
and city website. So you're welcome
[1:12:59] organization of the minutes.
>> Oh just just from that just the snapshot
[1:13:04] I see
>> the quality of work that how data will
[1:13:08] be managed and maintained on there
>> and the interactivity I mean between
[1:13:13] doing business on online and things so
so much easier with permits and those
[1:13:18] kinds of things. So, it's going to be a
mess. And Bob has asked for it many many
[1:13:22] times with the new um cell the texting
uh notifications and that I wish I wish
[1:13:28] for another 100 meter break. But, you
know, if we had had the one the the new
[1:13:32] website with the Dixel off and running
and everything, we we've been able to
[1:13:36] kind of fence off a particular area and
then if we had those cell phones for
[1:13:40] that area, we could have notified
everybody by text message. You know, we
[1:13:43] could do that by email and things, but
people don't really look quite as
[1:13:49] quickly at their email most of the time
versus a text message. And in
[1:13:53] particular, the texting is very popular
among older people, not as much as the
[1:13:58] email, but the texting. They really like
getting the text messages. So, thank you
[1:14:02] for mentioning that. We're hopeful to
get it done soon.
[1:14:10] » It's going to be
>> work that's going on.
[1:14:13] you haven't, you know.
>> Yeah, it's one of those in the scale of
[1:14:16] all the other things that we're doing.
It probably doesn't deserve a whole lot
[1:14:20] of attention, but it's probably one of
those things going from trash to
[1:14:24] treasure
because the site we have, I think every
[1:14:29] » Oh, yeah.
[1:14:37] » Awesome stuff. I have one more item for
Scott. It's the status on the code of
[1:14:43] ordinances
>> about the same time as website. So,
[1:14:45] we're hopeful to have that and Mayor and
I actually talked about maybe another
[1:14:49] change you might like to see to to one
particular area there. And so, you will
[1:14:54] get that back hopefully here uh within a
couple of weeks is kind of what she
[1:14:58] suggested. Uh and then kind of run
through some of the areas that maybe you
[1:15:02] want to get a little more look at
discussion.
[1:15:06] » Y
and then get a schedule for adoption
[1:15:10] then so I can some some more ideas come
into play
[1:15:17] » item 11 motion to adjourn motion stolen
second not
[1:15:23] » all in favor say I
>> I
[1:15:27] » thank you everyone
>> thank you mayor
[1:15:34] Wait a minute.