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Good evening,
ladies and gentlemen.

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This meeting will now
come to order at this time.

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May I ask you to please silence

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or turn off your cell phones
and other electronic devices?

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This is a regular meeting
of designing Review

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board of the City of Atlanta.
My name is Sherry McCoy.

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Chair of the board
for tonight's meeting.

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This is a nine member board
appointed by the mayor

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and confirmed by the City
council.

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This board hears applications

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for rezoning
and special use permits.

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At this time,
I would like to introduce you
to the members of the board.

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To my immediate right is Mr.

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Walter Slayton, vice chair
of the Zoning Review Board.

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Other members
of the Zoning Review

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Board present
this evening are Miss Karla
Penniman, Miss Lauren Welch, Mr.

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Jim Cheeks, and Mr. Kenny Hill.

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Members of the staff present

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tonight are Miss Quita
Holmes and Miss Angela Black.

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The applications
will be heard in

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the order
listed on the printed agenda.

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I would like to acquaint you

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with some of the rules
and procedures

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for the conduct of this meeting,

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which have been adopted
by this board.

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The applicants will be allowed

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a total of ten minutes
to present their cases.

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Since the burden of proof
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the applicants
to convince support,

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the application
should be approved,

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they may choose to reserve
some of that time

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for rebuttal following
independence presentation.

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The opposition likewise
will be permitted

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a total of ten minutes
to present their opposition.

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It will behoove you
to organize yourselves

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so that those who wish to speak
may do so

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in the ten minutes, provided
the opposition is not permitted.

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Rebuttal time.

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Miss Karla
Penniman will be keeping

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track of the time,
and will inform me

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periodically of the time
remaining for your presentation.

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If you wish to speak,

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if you wish to address the board
tonight, please

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sign in in the sign
in sheet at the podium.

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Please lean into the microphone
to be heard. Before

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making your remarks, please
state your name and address.

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This meeting is being recorded.

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Therefore, it is very important

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that you speak directly
into the microphone.

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The board will take two votes
on each application.

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The first vote
is on the findings of fact

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as presented by the staff.

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The second vote is for approval
or denial of the application.

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It is the second vote
that determines
the board's recommendation

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to the City Council
at the time of this hearing.

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Each application
has been regularly

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filed with the Office
of Zoning and Development,

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which prepares the proposed
ordinance for each application.

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The proposed ordinance
has had its first

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reading by the City Council,
and has been referred

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to this board
for a public hearing.

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Next is Zoning
Committee of the City Council

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votes on the proposed ordinance.

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Then the full council votes

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to adopt or deny
the proposed ordinance.

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Finally,
the mayor has eight days

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to approve
or veto the ordinance.

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The Office of Zoning
and Development

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has reviewed each application
in conjunction

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with various affected
agencies and departments,

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as well as with respect
to the adopted

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Comprehensive Development Plan
as required by the City Charter.

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The staff recommendations,
findings of fact

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and conclusions are here
before us in written form.

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Further, each application
has been regularly posted,

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regularly advertised and notices

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mailed as required
by the zoning ordinance.

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Comments from the Department
of Public Works,

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the Atlantic School Board
and the County Health Department

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have been requested.

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The board must consider
each application

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legally valid and is required

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to make a recommendation
on each application.

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The rules of the Council permit

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no demonstrations of any kind
within the Council chambers.

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Please refrain
from any applause or dialog
during or after presentations.

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All remarks should be addressed
to the board.

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Please show the same
respect to the person

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speaking that you would expect
to receive yourself.

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The applications
heard tonight will be considered

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by the Zoning Committee
on August 24th, 2026,

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and by the Atlantic City Council
on September 8th, 2026.

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I will now entertain a motion
to adopt tonight's agenda.

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Madam chair, I move that
this board adopts tonight's

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agenda, with the exception

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that we move the following cases
to the front of the agenda

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for consideration of a possible
deferral filing or continuance.

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Z Dash 26, 3024

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Cleveland Avenue
Southeast to be filed

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Z 2636 1834 Braeburn Circle

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southeast for a 60 day deferral
until October 2026.

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Z Dash 2637

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686 Highland Avenue
Southeast to be filed.

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Z Dash 2645

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2341 Glenn
Drive, southeast to be filed.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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It's been moved
and properly seconded

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that we accept tonight's
agenda, with the exception
of the applications

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that will be moved
to the front of the agenda

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for consideration for possible
deferral, continuance of filing.

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Are there any questions
or comments from the board?

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Okay. Hearing none.

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All in favor of adopting

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tonight's agenda, please
I and opposed.

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Nay, a motion passes.

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Oh, abstain.

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Motion passes.

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Acknowledging one abstention.

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Let me remind you again
to please

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ensure that your phones
and other electronic devices

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have been turned off.
Or silence to.

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Miss Holmes,
would you please read the cases

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for possible deferral and filing

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Z 2630
an ordinance by Councilmember

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Antonio Lewis to waive part
three Land Development Code.

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Part 16 zoning.

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Chapter 11 of the City

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of Atlanta Code of Ordinances

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so as to allow
an automobile service station
service station at 24 Cleveland

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Avenue Southeast
within 1500
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service station,
and for other purposes in

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Council District 12, Z 2636,
and ordinance by the Committee

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to rezone from multifamily
residential conditional

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to multi-family
residential conditional

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for a major site plan amendment
and a change of conditions

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for property located at 1834
Braeburn Circle, southeast

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fronting 50ft on the north
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beginning at a point
on the north
side of the 50ft right of way
known as Braving

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Circle in the southwest
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said point being 750ft east
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of Braeburn Circle and Clifton
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Depth varies. Area 6.906 acres.

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Land lot one 7415
Fisher, DeKalb County, Georgia.

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Owner Welborn development LLC
applicant Harold Buckley Jr, MP,

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Council District five 2637.

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Ordinance Committee
to rezone from two family

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Residential Beltline overlay
to commercial service issues.

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Felt like overlay for property
located at 686 Highland Avenue

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Northeast,
fronting 94ft on the north

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side of Highland Avenue,
commencing at an

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at the intersection of the north

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right of way of Highland Avenue
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right of way of Sampson Street,
and leave the said

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easterly right of way of Samsung

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Street,
and run along the said northerly

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right of way of Highland
Avenue to a point

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set point
also been the point of beginning

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approximately 150ft area
0.3 acres.

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In 1914, Bishop Fulton County,
Georgia owner Chris

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Carter, applicant.

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Chris Jackson, MPU, Council,
District two.

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Thank you, Miss Holmes.

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Is there anyone present
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Is there one more?

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Oh, sorry.
2645 and my Councilmember
Bakhtiari is on property

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located at 2341 Drive
Southeast Atlanta, Georgia,

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through 316 of the hour
for Single family

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residential zoning district
for the purposes of

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Council District five.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone present in

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opposition to any of the cases
being considered

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for deferral or filing?

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Okay.
Hearing
none, I will entertain motions.

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Madam chair, with respect

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to case number 2630,
I move to this board, defer

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taking action on this case
to be filed.

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Second motions been made
and probably seconded.

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All in favor say aye.

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Opposed? Nay, I motion passes.

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Madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 2636,

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I move that this board
defer taking action on this case

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till a 60 day deferral
until October 2026.

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Second motions
been made. Properly seconded.

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All in favor,
say aye. Opposed. Nay.

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Abstain.

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Madam chair,
with the two case number Z 2637,
I move this board.

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Defer to action to be filed,

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second motions
been made and properly seconded.

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All in favor,
say aye and opposed.

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May I mention passes?

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Madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 2645, I move

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that this board director action
for this case to be filed.

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Second, she's been made
and properly seconded.

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All in favor
say aye and opposed.

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Nay, a motion passes.

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May we have the next
application, please?

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Miss Z 2638 Ordinance
by Zoning Committee to rezone

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from planned development,
mixed use Beltline
overlay and community

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business district overlay
to mix residential

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commercial building overlay
for prophecy located at 774784,

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also known as 782 Ponce
Leon Place seven 9794,

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also known as 798,
possibly on Avenue,

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possibly on Avenue, and 731

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Adventure Avenue, also known
as 732 Bonaventure Avenue,

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fronting 328ft
on the north side of Ponce

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Leon Avenue, beginning at a nail
found at the intersection

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formed by the northerly
right of way of Ponce

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Leon Avenue

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and the westerly right of way
of Bonaventure Avenue,
and proceeding thence

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along the north right of
Way of Ponce Leon Avenue.

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Death varies.
Area 1.75788 acres. Land
lot 1714.

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District and County, Georgia.

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Owners SDI Ponce LLC, SC 73
LLC and 175 LLC.

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Applicant S.I.

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Ponce
LLC in Council District two.

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Thank you miss.

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Please state your name
and address and proceed.

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Members of the board just.

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Might sound like it.

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Try it again. Hello.

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There we go.
Just not close enough.

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There we go.

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Good evening,
members of the board.

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My name is Jessica Hill.

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My business address
is 600 Peachtree Street,
and I represent the applicant

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and property
owner, Seelig Enterprises.

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I'm joined tonight by various
members of the project team,

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including the property
ownership,

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our architect
and our civil engineer, and also

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our traffic engineer who's
going to speak to you as well.

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Seelig has owned the majority
of this property

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for over 60 years.

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It's about 1.75 acres.

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Located
at the corner of Bonaventure

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has frontage on Bonaventure,

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Maiden Lane and Ponce de Leon
Avenue and has historically

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been used for a variety
of different commercial uses.

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There is one residential
use on the property.

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Today.

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It is zones, predominantly C-1.

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At the far western most portion
of the property is one lot

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that was zoned
PDM a few years ago

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as part of a development that
Portman Holdings was proposing.

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So that's why the zoning request
that's before you is to go

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from C-1 and PDM to MRC

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three with several conditions.

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We are proposing a development
that will include up to 375

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multifamily units.

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Those will be rental

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with about 10,000ft
of sidewalk level commercial

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and then obviously a parking str

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Just looking at a color

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rendered version of the ground
floor plan,

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you've got Pontes on the bottom
here,

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Bonaventure Avenue on your right
and Maiden Lane on the north.

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This is the southern
edge of the Virginia

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Highland neighborhood,

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and we spent quite a bit of time
working with Virginia

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Highland,
with their planning committee,

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as well as with the neighborhood
at large, to address concerns

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that were raised
predominantly around traffic.

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What you see here in orange
is the retail and amenity area.

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At the bottom level,
we have two curb cuts proposed,

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one on Ponce de Leon Avenue,
one on Maiden Lane.

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The project originally

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had a curb cut
proposed on Bonaventure instead,

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and the resounding thing
that we heard

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from the neighborhood
was, please don't do that to us.

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Bonaventure
at most times is backed up

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due to the stock
condition there.

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So the site plan that you see
proposes curb

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cuts on these two locations.

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Show rendering of the project.

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Here's a bird's eye
rendering of the project.

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You've got Ponce de Leon here.

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This is Bonaventure
on the corner.

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You can see
the development here.

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And then we've ghosted in the

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Portman development,
which is approved next door

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at the same height
and massing as the proposal.

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You will find a variety
of conditions in your packet.

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Most of them
were originally negotiated
for the adjacent development.

285
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What we did with the Virginia
Highlands Group was work through

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which ones applied to this site,

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and then presented them
to the staff.

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The only condition
that we have a concern with
is staff condition number four,

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which requires

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a write in right out on Ponce
if there is a variation.

291
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Granted,
and I'm going to let

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our traffic engineer

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speak to the traffic study

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that was prepared
for this project

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and tell you a little bit more
about why we would like that
condition removed.

296
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,400
Thank you.

297
00:12:38,434 --> 00:12:40,201
Hello, I'm Anna Eisenman.

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I join you to give my address.

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955 Juniper Street, unit 2132.

300
00:12:45,935 --> 00:12:49,001
Atlanta, Georgia I'm a traffic
engineer with Kinley Horn.

301
00:12:49,001 --> 00:12:51,134
I prepared a traffic impact
study

302
00:12:51,134 --> 00:12:52,534
in response to some neighborhood

303
00:12:52,534 --> 00:12:54,368
concerns and questions
about traffic

304
00:12:54,368 --> 00:12:56,368
and the impact of the broader
neighborhood.

305
00:12:56,368 --> 00:12:59,701
We know that on a state route
like Ponce de Leon Avenue,

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the most likely permitted
condition

307
00:13:01,768 --> 00:13:03,868
will be a right and right out,
because that is God's

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preferred intersection
alternative on a state route.

309
00:13:07,035 --> 00:13:10,734
However, in this Pacific
location, we do have a two way

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left turn lane that allows left

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00:13:13,569 --> 00:13:16,867
turn access
today to the five driveways that
we would be reducing to one.

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I talked to Megan Wilson at gDot

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and how to preliminary
conversation with her, to ask

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if it would be possible
to do a left

315
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turn at this location to respond
to citizen concerns, neighbor

316
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concerns about extra circulation
in the neighborhood

317
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if they wouldn't
be able to directly access

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from the primary
arterial state route.

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And she said it's a possibility
they have to see the permit

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before they can respond.

321
00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:44,901
For Dot,

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00:13:44,901 --> 00:13:48,567
I think queuing was another
concern along that to a left

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00:13:49,835 --> 00:13:52,634
turn lane,
based on the traffic volumes
that we collected this year

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00:13:52,634 --> 00:13:56,468
and projected future volumes
for the development, we project

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00:13:56,534 --> 00:13:59,768
one car or fewer
queued to make that left

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onto Bonaventure
or into the site driveway.

327
00:14:04,034 --> 00:14:06,001
A car takes up about 25ft.

328
00:14:06,001 --> 00:14:07,834
When we consider queuing design.

329
00:14:07,834 --> 00:14:10,001
We have 300ft
along that frontage.

330
00:14:10,001 --> 00:14:12,266
There should not
be any issues with queuing.

331
00:14:19,001 --> 00:14:20,468
And we're
happy to answer any questions.

332
00:14:20,468 --> 00:14:21,935
We'll reserve
any time for rebuttal,

333
00:14:21,935 --> 00:14:23,800
although I'm not sure
if there's anybody here for us.

334
00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,734
Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

335
00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:29,034
Is there anyone who would like
to speak in opposition

336
00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:32,734
to this application?

337
00:14:33,334 --> 00:14:35,167
Okay.
Hearing
none, we back to the applicant.

338
00:14:35,167 --> 00:14:36,533
Is there
any other additional comments

339
00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:39,501
you would like to make?

340
00:14:39,968 --> 00:14:42,201
The only other point
of clarification, and again

341
00:14:42,201 --> 00:14:43,801
this is with respect
to the traffic study,

342
00:14:43,801 --> 00:14:45,800
but the traffic study
that you have

343
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was prepared in May

344
00:14:46,968 --> 00:14:49,934
at the request of the Virginia
Highland neighborhood.

345
00:14:50,134 --> 00:14:52,067
Again,
when we met with the broader

346
00:14:52,067 --> 00:14:53,634
neighborhood back in February,

347
00:14:53,634 --> 00:14:56,968
we were asked to prepare
a traffic study to address

348
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what the impact would be on
Virginia Highlands specifically.

349
00:15:00,501 --> 00:15:05,301
And Miss Eisenman
study was intended to identify

350
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what kind of the worst case
scenario would be

351
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if there was only a right in
right out,

352
00:15:09,334 --> 00:15:12,001
which is why that was
what was studied.

353
00:15:12,001 --> 00:15:14,568
Obviously,
if there is a left in allowed,

354
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which is what we would ask for,

355
00:15:16,834 --> 00:15:19,067
then that could improve
the traffic

356
00:15:19,067 --> 00:15:20,701
on the Virginia Highland Street.

357
00:15:20,701 --> 00:15:22,568
But we didn't
want to put that in a study

358
00:15:22,568 --> 00:15:24,634
and then have the community
come back and say,

359
00:15:24,634 --> 00:15:27,601
well, if you can't get that,
why does your study say this?

360
00:15:27,835 --> 00:15:29,735
So I just wanted to give
a little background around

361
00:15:29,735 --> 00:15:33,134
why the study refers to a right
and right out.

362
00:15:33,334 --> 00:15:37,367
I will also note that
having this curb cut on Ponce de

363
00:15:37,367 --> 00:15:38,768
Leon Avenue

364
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is something that
requires relief
during the special

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administrative permit process,

366
00:15:42,568 --> 00:15:44,967
the City Office of Zoning
and Development

367
00:15:44,967 --> 00:15:47,534
has the authority
to grant that or not.

368
00:15:47,534 --> 00:15:50,934
And so to the extent
that this condition was removed,

369
00:15:50,934 --> 00:15:52,768
the staff
still has the authority

370
00:15:52,768 --> 00:15:57,134
to modify, restrict, deny
that variation at a later date.

371
00:15:57,401 --> 00:15:59,034
We just would like it
to be pushed

372
00:15:59,034 --> 00:16:00,901
to a later conversation
when maybe there's

373
00:16:00,901 --> 00:16:03,867
more information about the
traffic available. Thank you.

374
00:16:05,201 --> 00:16:07,668
Thank you.

375
00:16:07,935 --> 00:16:10,700
We will now enter
deliberation questions
or comments from the board.

376
00:16:11,734 --> 00:16:14,734
Any thoughts about the curb cut?

377
00:16:19,967 --> 00:16:21,768
I was trying to look.

378
00:16:21,768 --> 00:16:24,767
Having a little difficulty here
is there's a

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a PED signal.

380
00:16:26,967 --> 00:16:28,234
I don't know
if it's a hawk signal,

381
00:16:28,234 --> 00:16:31,634
but there's a pedestrian
crossing in the middle of ponds,

382
00:16:31,634 --> 00:16:32,701
and I'm trying to figure out
where

383
00:16:32,701 --> 00:16:35,601
exactly that is in proximity
to the turn in

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00:16:35,601 --> 00:16:38,567
and turn out of this site plan.

385
00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,900
So the pedestrian signal. Yes.

386
00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:45,267
I might need to wait.

387
00:16:45,267 --> 00:16:48,267
The pedestrian
crossing is an offset crosswalk,

388
00:16:48,267 --> 00:16:51,634
and it's located on the far
west edge of the property.

389
00:16:51,868 --> 00:16:54,401
The proposed driveway
is closer to the center.

390
00:16:54,401 --> 00:16:58,334
There's about 75ft of storage

391
00:16:58,334 --> 00:17:03,001
in case there are three cars,
but we 95th percentile cuz.

392
00:17:03,001 --> 00:17:05,934
So 95% of the time you have one
car or less.

393
00:17:06,134 --> 00:17:14,167
Okay, that's that
was the question I had about.

394
00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:17,067
Miss Holmes.
I know that staff recommended
the right turn only.

395
00:17:17,067 --> 00:17:19,368
Would you care to elaborate
as to why you thought

396
00:17:19,368 --> 00:17:22,201
that was the most effective
approach?

397
00:17:22,468 --> 00:17:25,201
Sure.
When staff was evaluating
this application

398
00:17:25,334 --> 00:17:28,834
during our agenda
review, we have we are in

399
00:17:29,167 --> 00:17:32,701
conversation with our land
planning coworkers in.

400
00:17:32,701 --> 00:17:35,668
The request was made
at that time because of the

401
00:17:35,668 --> 00:17:38,735
the traffic that is
on the possibly on corridor.

402
00:17:38,735 --> 00:17:41,101
And so while Miss
Hill is correct

403
00:17:41,101 --> 00:17:42,801
that during the SAP process,

404
00:17:42,801 --> 00:17:46,835
the administrative variation
would be considered, we in

405
00:17:46,835 --> 00:17:49,934
the office
have tried to look at projects

406
00:17:49,934 --> 00:17:52,900
holistically
and not delay making decisions.

407
00:17:53,067 --> 00:17:54,401
And this is a direct request

408
00:17:54,401 --> 00:17:57,400
of a member of the land
planning team.

409
00:17:57,767 --> 00:18:00,800
Okay.

410
00:18:01,067 --> 00:18:03,468
Any other questions or comments?

411
00:18:03,468 --> 00:18:07,133
I think I'm inclined to go
with the staff recommendation.

412
00:18:08,667 --> 00:18:09,234
Anything else?

413
00:18:09,234 --> 00:18:10,301
Okay.

414
00:18:10,301 --> 00:18:13,300
I'm prepared to hear a motion.

415
00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,868
Madam chair,
with respect to case number

416
00:18:18,935 --> 00:18:24,368
Z 2638, I move that
this board accepts the stats.

417
00:18:24,368 --> 00:18:25,767
Finding a fact.

418
00:18:25,767 --> 00:18:28,201
Second motion made it properly.

419
00:18:28,334 --> 00:18:29,368
Seconded.
All in favor, say aye.

420
00:18:29,368 --> 00:18:32,167
Nay. A motion passes.

421
00:18:32,167 --> 00:18:37,134
Madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 2638,

422
00:18:37,201 --> 00:18:38,668
I move that this board

423
00:18:38,668 --> 00:18:42,668
send forth a recommendation
of approval with the conditions

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00:18:42,668 --> 00:18:48,234
found on page
five and six of the case

425
00:18:48,234 --> 00:18:52,233
found on the date of August
6th, 2026.

426
00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,134
Second o the staff report.

427
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,668
Staff report. I'm sorry.

428
00:18:57,668 --> 00:19:00,768
Staff report dated
August 6th, 2026.

429
00:19:00,901 --> 00:19:03,633
Second motions
been made and properly seconded.

430
00:19:03,633 --> 00:19:04,534
All in favor, say aye.

431
00:19:04,534 --> 00:19:07,468
Opposed. Nay, a motion passes.

432
00:19:07,668 --> 00:19:10,468
Next case. Business homes
Z 2639.

433
00:19:10,468 --> 00:19:12,735
An ordinance by the Committee
to rezone from single family

434
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:15,301
residential Beltline
overlay to community businesses.

435
00:19:15,301 --> 00:19:16,534
Beltline overlay for property

436
00:19:16,534 --> 00:19:20,167
located at 1298 Donley
Avenue, Southwest, fronting 50ft

437
00:19:20,167 --> 00:19:21,534
on the south side of Donley
Avenue.

438
00:19:21,534 --> 00:19:23,501
Beginning at a nail
found on the southwest

439
00:19:23,501 --> 00:19:24,735
right of way of Donley Avenue.

440
00:19:24,735 --> 00:19:28,501
Set point being 48.67ft
southeast from its intersection

441
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:31,501
with the right of way
of Allegheny Street, 150ft.

442
00:19:31,501 --> 00:19:33,701
Area 0.172 acres. Land lot.

443
00:19:33,701 --> 00:19:36,134
139 14th District,
Fulton County, Georgia.

444
00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:37,434
Owner D Jones.

445
00:19:37,434 --> 00:19:38,568
Applicant Jamila Brown.

446
00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:40,400
Input Council district ten.

447
00:19:41,634 --> 00:19:45,101
Please go ahead and set your
name and address and proceed.

448
00:19:45,768 --> 00:19:50,935
Good afternoon.
Jamila Brown 570 Piedmont Ave,
Northeast Elena, Georgia 30308.

449
00:19:51,168 --> 00:19:55,967
This is a request for a rezone
from residential to commercial.

450
00:19:56,501 --> 00:20:02,067
We understand that the community
around is already commercial.

451
00:20:02,067 --> 00:20:05,134
So this is a simple request.

452
00:20:05,234 --> 00:20:08,434
But this is a controversy
because of what's going there.

453
00:20:08,501 --> 00:20:12,934
I just want the panel to know
that we have met with the NPU

454
00:20:13,401 --> 00:20:17,800
on multiple occasions
in the franchisee, and the owner

455
00:20:18,935 --> 00:20:20,668
and their in
their council
is working with the community

456
00:20:20,668 --> 00:20:22,568
to come up
with a community agreement

457
00:20:22,568 --> 00:20:24,234
that the neighborhood
would be comfortable with.

458
00:20:24,234 --> 00:20:29,600
I just wanted to add that
that's all.

459
00:20:29,934 --> 00:20:32,001
Okay.
Is that all your comments?

460
00:20:32,001 --> 00:20:33,401
Okay. Go ahead. Have a seat.

461
00:20:33,401 --> 00:20:35,067
Is there anyone else
who would like to speak

462
00:20:35,067 --> 00:20:37,234
in support of this application?

463
00:20:37,234 --> 00:20:39,467
Is there anyone who would
like to speak in opposition?

464
00:20:41,701 --> 00:20:44,634
Okay.
Hearing
none, we will enter deliberation

465
00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:47,568
questions
or comments from the board,

466
00:20:47,668 --> 00:20:51,067
so I'm not sure
everyone is aware.

467
00:20:51,067 --> 00:20:52,334
There have been additional

468
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:55,333
conditions that were proposed
by the neighborhood.

469
00:20:56,234 --> 00:20:59,101
That staff has provided,

470
00:20:59,101 --> 00:21:02,333
and have any thoughts
about that?

471
00:21:04,934 --> 00:21:18,767
Okay.

472
00:21:19,067 --> 00:21:21,534
Okay.
I'm prepared to hear a motion.

473
00:21:21,534 --> 00:21:23,633
Madam chair,
with respect to case

474
00:21:23,633 --> 00:21:26,634
number Z 2639,

475
00:21:26,768 --> 00:21:30,600
I move that this board accepts
the staff training effect.

476
00:21:31,134 --> 00:21:33,667
Second motion has been made
and properly seconded.

477
00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:34,567
All in favor, say aye.

478
00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:37,234
Opposed? Nay.

479
00:21:37,234 --> 00:21:38,768
Motion passes.

480
00:21:38,768 --> 00:21:41,434
Madam chair,
with respect to case number Z

481
00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:44,835
2639, I move to this board.

482
00:21:44,901 --> 00:21:47,867
Send forth
a recommendation of approval.

483
00:21:48,368 --> 00:21:51,567
Second motion has been. Oh,

484
00:21:53,267 --> 00:21:54,867
I thought we had additional
conditions.

485
00:21:54,867 --> 00:21:58,266
With conditions? No.

486
00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:01,734
The the.

487
00:22:02,234 --> 00:22:03,800
Let's go back a second.

488
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,667
Back into deliberation. The

489
00:22:07,301 --> 00:22:07,900
neighborhood.

490
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,334
Proposed conditions.

491
00:22:09,334 --> 00:22:12,333
Staff
report does not have conditions.

492
00:22:13,101 --> 00:22:14,368
Okay.

493
00:22:14,368 --> 00:22:17,334
To repeat. Yes.

494
00:22:17,568 --> 00:22:19,501
Madam chair, to speak to case

495
00:22:19,501 --> 00:22:24,468
number Z 2639,
I recommend that this board send

496
00:22:24,534 --> 00:22:27,501
forth
a recommendation of approval.

497
00:22:27,634 --> 00:22:30,134
Second motion has been made
and properly seconded.

498
00:22:30,134 --> 00:22:32,001
All in favor,
say aye. Opposed? Nay.

499
00:22:32,001 --> 00:22:32,834
All right.

500
00:22:32,834 --> 00:22:34,368
Motion passes.

501
00:22:34,368 --> 00:22:37,601
Next case, please, is 2642.

502
00:22:37,601 --> 00:22:39,568
An ordinance by Councilmember
Lillian Bakhtiari

503
00:22:39,568 --> 00:22:43,201
to his own properties
located in 1801, 18 1618

504
00:22:43,267 --> 00:22:46,234
1918, 20, 1824, 1828,

505
00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:50,868
1832 and 1836 second
Avenue, Decatur, Georgia and 560

506
00:22:50,935 --> 00:22:53,868
Fayetteville Road and 562
Fayetteville Road, Atlanta,

507
00:22:53,868 --> 00:22:55,967
Georgia to the community
Business District.

508
00:22:55,967 --> 00:22:59,901
596, 600 and 604 and 755 Ville
Road,

509
00:22:59,968 --> 00:23:03,801
to the single family
residential and 735 Fayetteville

510
00:23:03,801 --> 00:23:05,667
Road to the Honor
Industrial Office.

511
00:23:05,667 --> 00:23:07,267
Institutional zoning districts.

512
00:23:07,267 --> 00:23:09,101
Upon annexation
into the corporate limits

513
00:23:09,101 --> 00:23:10,900
of the City of Atlanta
and other purposes.

514
00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:12,967
MPO Council District five.

515
00:23:12,967 --> 00:23:15,434
Madam chair,
I'll be speaking to this paper.

516
00:23:15,434 --> 00:23:17,634
The properties to the properties
to be annexed

517
00:23:17,634 --> 00:23:19,468
are south of the City
of Atlanta limits,

518
00:23:19,468 --> 00:23:21,468
with frontage on Second Avenue
and Fayetteville

519
00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:23,468
Road in unincorporated
DeKalb County.

520
00:23:23,468 --> 00:23:25,234
The parcels are near
the city of Atlanta.

521
00:23:25,234 --> 00:23:28,301
Eastlake neighborhood
in Council District five.

522
00:23:28,368 --> 00:23:31,067
The properties comprise 101.

523
00:23:31,067 --> 00:23:33,501
I'm Sorry comprise 15 parcels.

524
00:23:33,501 --> 00:23:36,002
The eastern part of the area
is situated

525
00:23:36,002 --> 00:23:38,800
next to the city of Atlanta
in unincorporated Kalb County.

526
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,534
All properties
proposed for annexation

527
00:23:40,534 --> 00:23:43,267
have frontages on Second Avenue
or Fayetteville Road,

528
00:23:43,267 --> 00:23:45,768
and the properties are improved
with non residential uses

529
00:23:45,768 --> 00:23:48,066
such as a place
of worship and a school.

530
00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:52,901
The. The intent to

531
00:23:52,901 --> 00:23:55,134
the intent of the City
of Atlanta are for single family

532
00:23:55,134 --> 00:23:57,101
residential district
is to provide for the protection

533
00:23:57,101 --> 00:23:58,734
of existing
single family communities

534
00:23:58,734 --> 00:23:59,701
and the development

535
00:23:59,701 --> 00:24:01,768
of new communities
on lots of medium size

536
00:24:01,768 --> 00:24:03,568
and a density
of not more than one dwelling

537
00:24:03,568 --> 00:24:07,334
unit per square feet,
one dwelling unit per 9000ft.

538
00:24:07,401 --> 00:24:10,835
Similarly, the intent of the 75
residential medium lot zoning

539
00:24:10,835 --> 00:24:13,234
district in DeKalb County
is to provide for the protection

540
00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:14,668
of neighborhoods
within the county

541
00:24:14,668 --> 00:24:17,634
where lots of a minimum area
of 10,000ft, and to provide

542
00:24:17,634 --> 00:24:20,600
for compatible infill
development in neighborhoods.

543
00:24:21,034 --> 00:24:22,067
The intent of the Atlanta

544
00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:24,001
C1 Community Business
District is provide

545
00:24:24,001 --> 00:24:25,868
for medium intensity
retail and service

546
00:24:25,868 --> 00:24:28,134
activities, and in areas
are already committed

547
00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:29,835
to development
of this character.

548
00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:32,868
Similarly,
the C1 local commercial district

549
00:24:32,868 --> 00:24:35,768
in DeKalb County is to provide
convenient local retail,

550
00:24:35,768 --> 00:24:37,568
shopping and service areas
within the county

551
00:24:37,568 --> 00:24:39,901
for our residents
to provide for oriented

552
00:24:39,901 --> 00:24:41,967
needs outside
of the neighborhood center, town

553
00:24:41,967 --> 00:24:44,034
center, and regional center
character areas.

554
00:24:44,034 --> 00:24:44,900
And lastly,

555
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,001
the intent of the City
of Atlanta Oni

556
00:24:47,001 --> 00:24:48,334
Office Institutional District

557
00:24:48,334 --> 00:24:50,134
is to provide
office, institutional

558
00:24:50,134 --> 00:24:52,201
and residential development
with assessed

559
00:24:52,201 --> 00:24:54,368
supporting services
but without general commercial

560
00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:58,001
development and similarly,
the intent of county is provide

561
00:24:58,001 --> 00:24:59,468
convenient areas
within the county

562
00:24:59,468 --> 00:25:00,700
for the location of office

563
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:01,935
and institutional uses

564
00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:03,968
which are necessary
for the residents and business

565
00:25:03,968 --> 00:25:06,300
and professional practitioners
within the county.

566
00:25:09,735 --> 00:25:11,835
As no new development
is proposed in connection

567
00:25:11,835 --> 00:25:14,134
with this annexation,
the availability of other land

568
00:25:14,134 --> 00:25:16,801
already zoned for the proposed
use is not applicable,

569
00:25:16,801 --> 00:25:18,634
however,
because annexation into the city

570
00:25:18,634 --> 00:25:20,401
of Atlanta requires
the assignment of zoning,

571
00:25:20,401 --> 00:25:22,201
the city must designate
an appropriate

572
00:25:22,201 --> 00:25:24,668
zoning classification
at the time of annexation.

573
00:25:24,668 --> 00:25:27,734
The proposed zoning C1,
oh, and I

574
00:25:28,201 --> 00:25:31,167
and R4 are in

575
00:25:31,468 --> 00:25:34,234
line with its own indigenous
indi kalb counties in the cab

576
00:25:34,234 --> 00:25:35,568
county, and land use patterns

577
00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:38,534
thereby maintain the existing
balance of land usage.

578
00:25:38,634 --> 00:25:40,501
The use is permitted under
the proposed

579
00:25:40,501 --> 00:25:42,167
will positively contribute
to the character

580
00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:43,768
of the surrounding
neighborhoods, as they are

581
00:25:43,768 --> 00:25:46,468
substantially similar
to those most currently allowed

582
00:25:46,468 --> 00:25:49,101
and already present under DeKalb
County Zoning Regulations.

583
00:25:49,101 --> 00:25:52,868
Staff
recommendation is approval.

584
00:25:53,002 --> 00:25:54,234
Thank you, Miss Holmes.
Is there anyone here
who would like to speak

585
00:25:54,234 --> 00:25:55,834
in support of this application?

586
00:25:59,134 --> 00:26:01,102
Yes, in support.

587
00:26:01,102 --> 00:26:05,266
And remember to state your name
and address before you begin.

588
00:26:05,934 --> 00:26:07,401
Elamin.

589
00:26:07,401 --> 00:26:09,533
My home address is 2807.

590
00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:10,334
Heads would drive.

591
00:26:10,334 --> 00:26:14,166
Atlanta, Georgia 30311.

592
00:26:16,101 --> 00:26:18,734
This is a most of this property.

593
00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:20,835
Our community. Lana mosque.

594
00:26:20,835 --> 00:26:24,934
Lana has owned
half this property for 50 years.

595
00:26:24,934 --> 00:26:28,800
And then we began to acquire
other property.

596
00:26:29,001 --> 00:26:31,967
We were trying to develop

597
00:26:32,301 --> 00:26:34,935
the whole neighborhood
community.

598
00:26:34,935 --> 00:26:38,668
And the city line
runs through the property.

599
00:26:38,668 --> 00:26:42,135
But most of the property
is unincorporated DeKalb County,

600
00:26:42,135 --> 00:26:46,501
so it makes it very difficult
to try to do the development

601
00:26:46,501 --> 00:26:49,500
we want to do
in these two different

602
00:26:50,368 --> 00:26:52,468
designations. So we

603
00:26:52,468 --> 00:26:55,934
prefer to be bring everything
into the city of Atlanta.

604
00:26:56,334 --> 00:26:59,800
And we've met with the city
on several occasions, and

605
00:27:01,101 --> 00:27:04,067
they have been
very supportive of that.

606
00:27:04,468 --> 00:27:08,233
We've also informed DeKalb
County of our intention, and

607
00:27:09,234 --> 00:27:10,301
I can't say they have been

608
00:27:10,301 --> 00:27:13,368
supportive of it,
but they understand.

609
00:27:13,501 --> 00:27:16,367
Okay.
So I think that's it basically.

610
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:18,501
Okay. Thank you.

611
00:27:18,501 --> 00:27:19,934
Is there anyone else
who would like to speak

612
00:27:19,934 --> 00:27:22,201
in support of the application?

613
00:27:22,201 --> 00:27:23,234
Is there anyone who would like

614
00:27:23,234 --> 00:27:27,301
to speak in opposition
to the application?

615
00:27:27,901 --> 00:27:28,967
Okay.
Hearing
none, we will enter deliberation

616
00:27:28,967 --> 00:27:31,368
questions
or comments from the board.

617
00:27:31,835 --> 00:27:33,634
Okay.
I'm prepared to hear a motion.

618
00:27:33,634 --> 00:27:38,234
Madam chair, with respect
to case number 26 stands 42.

619
00:27:38,401 --> 00:27:40,301
I move that this board of stars

620
00:27:40,301 --> 00:27:44,034
finding effect second motions
been made and probably seconded.

621
00:27:44,034 --> 00:27:46,600
All in favor, say aye. Opposed?

622
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,034
Motion passes.

623
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:52,334
Madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 2642,

624
00:27:52,534 --> 00:27:56,267
I moved the sports in forth
a recommendation of approval.

625
00:27:56,901 --> 00:27:59,401
Second motions
been made properly seconded.

626
00:27:59,401 --> 00:28:01,066
All in favor,
say aye. Aye. Opposed. Nay.

627
00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:03,368
Motion passes.

628
00:28:03,368 --> 00:28:06,668
Next case, please,
miss Holmes Z 2643 and Ordinance

629
00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:09,601
by Zoning Committee
designating the Peachtree Circle

630
00:28:09,868 --> 00:28:12,601
Historic District,
located in land
lot 105 of the 17th district,

631
00:28:12,668 --> 00:28:14,735
Georgia,
to the Overlays on Designation

632
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:17,167
of Historic District pursuant
to chapter 20 of the Zoning

633
00:28:17,167 --> 00:28:18,701
Ordinance
of the City of Atlanta.

634
00:28:18,701 --> 00:28:21,868
Rezoning from single family
and single family.

635
00:28:21,868 --> 00:28:24,634
Landmark building
site to single family
historic district

636
00:28:25,002 --> 00:28:26,534
in single family
landmark building
or site Historic district

637
00:28:26,534 --> 00:28:27,967
amending the official
zoning map.

638
00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:30,101
Adopting chapter
21 of the Zoning

639
00:28:30,101 --> 00:28:31,434
Ordinance
of the City of Atlanta.

640
00:28:31,434 --> 00:28:33,867
Repealing conflicting laws
and for other purposes.

641
00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:36,201
MP Council, District six.

642
00:28:36,201 --> 00:28:37,935
Thank you, Miss Holmes.

643
00:28:37,935 --> 00:28:40,634
Please state your name
and address and proceed.

644
00:28:40,634 --> 00:28:42,634
Madam chair, members
of the board, I'm Robert Reed.

645
00:28:42,634 --> 00:28:47,168
I am part of the Office
of Design in the Department

646
00:28:47,502 --> 00:28:50,234
of City Planning.
I am the head of the Historic
Preservation Studio,

647
00:28:50,234 --> 00:28:52,935
and we are the applicant
in this case.

648
00:28:52,935 --> 00:28:56,534
Earlier action taken
by the Urban Design Commission.

649
00:28:57,068 --> 00:29:03,035
So the cities make a
thousands of land use decisions

650
00:29:03,035 --> 00:29:07,201
over over time, and most respond
to the needs of the moment.

651
00:29:07,201 --> 00:29:09,434
But occasionally community
is asked to make a different

652
00:29:09,434 --> 00:29:12,434
kind of decision, a decision
about the physical quantity,

653
00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,200
physical
qualities a city deserves.

654
00:29:17,267 --> 00:29:20,501
Qualities of a city deserve
to endure for generations.

655
00:29:20,601 --> 00:29:23,533
Historic district
designation is one of those.

656
00:29:24,134 --> 00:29:26,868
It is one of zoning highest
purposes.

657
00:29:26,868 --> 00:29:29,735
Every zoning regulation
represents a community judgment

658
00:29:29,735 --> 00:29:33,467
that certain private decisions
have public consequences.

659
00:29:33,734 --> 00:29:35,967
Setbacks protect light and air

660
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:38,401
height limits,
preserve neighborhood scale tree

661
00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:41,968
and stormwater regulations,
protect environmental resources.

662
00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:47,167
Historic district regulations
serve that same public purpose.

663
00:29:47,267 --> 00:29:49,035
They recognize that certain
streets,

664
00:29:49,035 --> 00:29:51,434
buildings, and neighborhoods
possess a significant

665
00:29:51,434 --> 00:29:52,701
that extends beyond

666
00:29:52,701 --> 00:29:55,135
individual ownership
because they contribute

667
00:29:55,135 --> 00:29:58,600
to the character, identity,
and welfare of the entire city.

668
00:29:59,134 --> 00:30:01,368
Peachtree
circle is one of those places.

669
00:30:01,368 --> 00:30:03,668
There are moments in history
when circumstances,

670
00:30:03,668 --> 00:30:05,568
circumstance,
vision and opportunity

671
00:30:05,568 --> 00:30:07,368
come together
to create something that

672
00:30:07,368 --> 00:30:09,401
simply could not be replicated
today.

673
00:30:09,401 --> 00:30:12,568
Atlanta itself
was born of such a convergence

674
00:30:12,668 --> 00:30:14,700
the westward
expansion of a young nation,

675
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,601
the advent of the railroads,

676
00:30:16,601 --> 00:30:20,067
the unique geography of bridges,
bridges, and water

677
00:30:20,201 --> 00:30:23,167
that determined
where this city would grow.

678
00:30:23,234 --> 00:30:25,967
Peachtree circle represents
another of those moments

679
00:30:25,967 --> 00:30:28,935
when nationally significant
planning ideas,

680
00:30:29,202 --> 00:30:32,167
exceptional landscape design,
distinguished architecture,

681
00:30:32,167 --> 00:30:34,267
and visionary development
combined

682
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:37,234
to create one of Atlanta's
most recognizable streets.

683
00:30:37,868 --> 00:30:39,768
To understand
where we are going as a city,

684
00:30:39,768 --> 00:30:42,501
we must first understand
how we arrived here.

685
00:30:42,501 --> 00:30:45,134
Historic
designation is one of those ways

686
00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:47,100
we preserve that understanding.

687
00:30:48,201 --> 00:30:50,735
Beginning last
December, proponents sponsored

688
00:30:50,735 --> 00:30:54,301
two public meetings
to discuss this proposal.

689
00:30:54,501 --> 00:30:56,901
The city then conducted
two additional public meetings

690
00:30:56,901 --> 00:31:00,001
where residents shared concerns,
suggestions, and ideas.

691
00:31:00,101 --> 00:31:01,668
Those conversations

692
00:31:01,668 --> 00:31:05,634
produced meaningful refinements
to the proposed regulations.

693
00:31:05,701 --> 00:31:09,368
Most recently, the Park Zoning
Committee conducted its own

694
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:12,334
public hearing recommending
additional refinements,

695
00:31:12,701 --> 00:31:14,867
and the annually Park
Civic Board.

696
00:31:14,867 --> 00:31:16,401
Civic Civic Association

697
00:31:16,401 --> 00:31:19,667
board affirmed the committee's
findings, as did MPU.

698
00:31:20,267 --> 00:31:21,701
Those recommendations
have likewise

699
00:31:21,701 --> 00:31:24,667
been incorporated into
the proposal before you tonight.

700
00:31:25,201 --> 00:31:27,735
This has been a deliberate
and deliberative process

701
00:31:27,735 --> 00:31:30,700
with multiple opportunities
for public participation.

702
00:31:31,334 --> 00:31:34,167
A clear majority of property
owners who have expressed

703
00:31:34,167 --> 00:31:38,200
an opinion to the Historic
Preservation Studio

704
00:31:39,234 --> 00:31:42,233
are in support
of this designation.

705
00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:45,900
Those materials are
also included in your package

706
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:48,900
every email
and petition we received.

707
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,034
Everyone
who is participating in this

708
00:31:52,034 --> 00:31:53,668
in this discussion,
including those

709
00:31:53,668 --> 00:31:55,735
who oppose designation,
has demonstrated

710
00:31:55,735 --> 00:31:59,034
something important
they love Peachtree Circle.

711
00:31:59,101 --> 00:32:00,701
The question
before this board is not

712
00:32:00,701 --> 00:32:02,800
whether
Peachtree Circle is special.

713
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,368
The question is
whether Atlanta's

714
00:32:04,368 --> 00:32:06,267
zoning
ordinance should recognize

715
00:32:06,267 --> 00:32:08,067
and protect the public value

716
00:32:08,067 --> 00:32:11,634
of one of Atlanta's
defining residential landscapes.

717
00:32:12,068 --> 00:32:15,234
Tonight, you are not simply
considering another zoning case.

718
00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:17,534
You are deciding whether
one of Atlanta's most important

719
00:32:17,534 --> 00:32:21,568
historic places should receive
the same thoughtful stewardship

720
00:32:21,568 --> 00:32:22,868
that our zoning ordinance

721
00:32:22,868 --> 00:32:26,233
already provides to
so many other public interests.

722
00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:29,734
You are deciding whether.

723
00:32:30,334 --> 00:32:32,301
All right.
For that reason,
we respectfully ask your

724
00:32:32,301 --> 00:32:34,700
for your recommendation
to in support of the Peachtree

725
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:36,001
Circle Historic District.

726
00:32:36,001 --> 00:32:38,567
I'll reserve the rest of my time
for rebuttal.

727
00:32:38,567 --> 00:32:40,167
Thank you sir.

728
00:32:40,167 --> 00:32:41,634
Is there anyone else
who would like to speak

729
00:32:41,634 --> 00:32:43,567
in support
of the application at this time?

730
00:32:46,001 --> 00:32:48,867
The Robert support?

731
00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:49,767
Nope. Nope.

732
00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:51,601
You need it. Okay.

733
00:32:51,601 --> 00:32:53,067
I want all the rebuttal time.

734
00:32:53,067 --> 00:32:54,301
Okay.

735
00:32:54,301 --> 00:32:55,735
Is there anyone who would like

736
00:32:55,735 --> 00:33:04,234
to speak in opposition
at this time?

737
00:33:04,868 --> 00:33:06,234
Hello.
My name is John Jordan
and I live at 48

738
00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:07,667
Peachtree Circle, Atlanta,
Georgia.

739
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:09,401
30309.

740
00:33:09,401 --> 00:33:11,634
I'm speaking
against the proposed

741
00:33:11,868 --> 00:33:14,734
historic district
and asking that you not accept
this overlay proposal.

742
00:33:16,902 --> 00:33:19,401
The main reason
I'm going to speak tonight
is there
simply is not overwhelming
support for this.

743
00:33:19,401 --> 00:33:21,101
It's amongst the residents

744
00:33:21,101 --> 00:33:22,968
of the district,
of the proposed district.

745
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:25,735
It's it is contested
in the numbers. Prove it.

746
00:33:25,735 --> 00:33:28,368
The city's own count puts it,
puts this at around

747
00:33:28,368 --> 00:33:32,067
52% of the impacted properties
being in favor.

748
00:33:32,201 --> 00:33:33,668
We've identified over

749
00:33:33,668 --> 00:33:37,468
42% of people that have said
they are not in favor.

750
00:33:37,534 --> 00:33:38,967
There are some folks
who have chosen

751
00:33:38,967 --> 00:33:41,867
not to participate
for whatever reason,

752
00:33:41,867 --> 00:33:44,835
but I think you should
look at that

753
00:33:44,835 --> 00:33:48,001
52% and understand
what's underneath it.

754
00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:51,301
Of that 52%,
ten of the properties

755
00:33:51,301 --> 00:33:54,267
in favor
are inside of one structure.

756
00:33:54,368 --> 00:33:56,001
This is a condo apartment

757
00:33:56,001 --> 00:33:57,868
within the within
the proposed district.

758
00:33:57,868 --> 00:33:59,601
And I'm not proposing
that those people

759
00:33:59,601 --> 00:34:02,768
should not have a say in this,
but it is different when they do

760
00:34:02,768 --> 00:34:06,368
not currently have the ability
to redevelop their own property,

761
00:34:06,434 --> 00:34:09,267
change the facade
because they are part of an HOA.

762
00:34:09,267 --> 00:34:12,035
It is simply different
than the other

763
00:34:12,302 --> 00:34:14,868
than the other parts
of the other parcels
that are weighing in.

764
00:34:14,868 --> 00:34:18,601
And I would ask you to consider
that second wind park,

765
00:34:18,668 --> 00:34:22,500
a property owned by the city,
is also in the city's numbers.

766
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:24,601
Not certain
why that was included,

767
00:34:24,601 --> 00:34:27,834
but I'm not certain
why this city has a vote in this

768
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,867
in a park
that isn't going to change

769
00:34:31,134 --> 00:34:32,867
when you adjust the numbers
for that,

770
00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:35,301
the support for the city falls
below 50%.

771
00:34:35,301 --> 00:34:38,067
In fact, it's around 45,

772
00:34:38,067 --> 00:34:40,601
giving the condominium
one vote and giving one part

773
00:34:40,601 --> 00:34:42,768
no vote and removing them
from the denominator.

774
00:34:42,768 --> 00:34:45,834
So I would just ask
you seriously consider the

775
00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:47,433
level of support for this.

776
00:34:53,134 --> 00:34:55,035
Hello, my name is Andy.

777
00:34:55,035 --> 00:34:59,401
I live at 158 Peachtree Circle,
and I'm one of the properties

778
00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:03,101
directly impacted
by this proposed designation.

779
00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:05,967
I think it's worth
pointing out to corrections.

780
00:35:05,967 --> 00:35:09,401
One, they showed the Maryland
condo building

781
00:35:09,534 --> 00:35:11,634
that's not actually on Peachtree
Circle.

782
00:35:11,634 --> 00:35:14,634
It's on 17th Street,
and they showed the Randolph

783
00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:16,634
Lucas Jones house,
which was a house

784
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:20,034
at the intersection
of Lindbergh and Peachtree

785
00:35:20,034 --> 00:35:22,201
that was moved to Peachtree
Circle

786
00:35:22,201 --> 00:35:25,334
after another house was
demolished about 20 years ago.

787
00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:29,301
So they're using homes
that have actually been moved

788
00:35:29,301 --> 00:35:31,501
to the street
or are not on the street

789
00:35:31,501 --> 00:35:35,066
as indicative of
what's on that street.

790
00:35:36,501 --> 00:35:39,468
I'm here to ask the board
for a 60 day continuance

791
00:35:39,468 --> 00:35:41,568
of any of this decision
on this matter,

792
00:35:41,568 --> 00:35:44,568
so that I can obtain, at my own
expense,

793
00:35:44,568 --> 00:35:48,267
an independent appraisal report
on the actual impact

794
00:35:48,468 --> 00:35:51,533
this designation would
have on our property values.

795
00:35:52,534 --> 00:35:54,601
When I asked
the Department of City Planning

796
00:35:54,601 --> 00:35:56,267
how this designation
would impact

797
00:35:56,267 --> 00:35:58,434
property
values on our street, Mr.

798
00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:01,468
Reed directed me to the Fulton
County tax records.

799
00:36:01,701 --> 00:36:06,067
Respectfully, that data
does not answer the question.

800
00:36:06,768 --> 00:36:10,134
Tax records tell you what
a property is worth today

801
00:36:10,601 --> 00:36:13,634
on a current zoning,
not what happens that value.

802
00:36:13,701 --> 00:36:17,634
Once a regulatory restriction
is layered onto one street

803
00:36:17,634 --> 00:36:21,400
while every comparable home
nearby remains unrestricted.

804
00:36:22,067 --> 00:36:23,735
This afternoon, Mr.

805
00:36:23,735 --> 00:36:26,967
Reed sent me
an unpublished analysis

806
00:36:26,967 --> 00:36:29,934
of historical city
of Atlanta neighborhoods

807
00:36:30,468 --> 00:36:34,768
versus unrestricted

808
00:36:35,002 --> 00:36:37,767
neighborhoods.
But again,
that is not the issue here.

809
00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:41,034
There is actually
a published, peer

810
00:36:41,534 --> 00:36:44,533
reviewed research showing
that while

811
00:36:46,034 --> 00:36:48,634
showing that
while a whole neighborhood

812
00:36:48,634 --> 00:36:52,267
historic designation
can increase property values,

813
00:36:52,334 --> 00:36:54,967
applying the same designation
to just a subset

814
00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:58,701
of a neighborhood tends
to decrease that value.

815
00:36:58,935 --> 00:37:02,167
And I'm aware of only
two instances of a single street

816
00:37:02,167 --> 00:37:06,201
or sub designation in the city
of the City of Atlanta.

817
00:37:06,468 --> 00:37:09,101
The first is Baltimore Block,

818
00:37:09,101 --> 00:37:11,735
a commercial block converted
from abandoned townhomes

819
00:37:11,735 --> 00:37:14,800
into office spaces
next to Emory Midtown.

820
00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:16,867
Not comparable.

821
00:37:16,867 --> 00:37:17,734
And Sunset

822
00:37:17,734 --> 00:37:18,868
Avenue, home to Doctor

823
00:37:18,868 --> 00:37:21,901
Martin Luther King Manor,
Jackson and Julian Bond,

824
00:37:21,901 --> 00:37:25,300
which is a street of national
and international civil rights.

825
00:37:25,633 --> 00:37:27,002
Significance.

826
00:37:27,002 --> 00:37:31,801
Peachtree circle has
no comparable historic value.

827
00:37:32,402 --> 00:37:39,034
Fulton County
records show our streets total
appraised value is $159,272,800.

828
00:37:39,301 --> 00:37:42,434
Every indication is
that our values will decline

829
00:37:42,434 --> 00:37:45,567
as buyers choose unrestricted
alternatives nearby.

830
00:37:46,201 --> 00:37:49,768
Even a conservative
5% decline is a cumulative

831
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:54,633
$8 million loss of value,
and also loss of tax bases

832
00:37:54,633 --> 00:37:56,735
for the city.

833
00:37:57,135 --> 00:37:59,001
This proposal,
such a dangerous precedent
for the erosion of the city's

834
00:37:59,001 --> 00:38:01,835
tax bases
and other neighborhoods

835
00:38:02,135 --> 00:38:04,834
where single street
historic designations
may be implemented in the future

836
00:38:05,468 --> 00:38:07,668
before taking a step
that could cost the city

837
00:38:07,668 --> 00:38:11,034
millions in tax revenue,
that impact should be studied.

838
00:38:11,301 --> 00:38:13,201
It is not.

839
00:38:13,201 --> 00:38:15,768
That's why
I'm requesting 60 days to obtain

840
00:38:15,768 --> 00:38:20,134
this appraisal report
from an independent appraiser,

841
00:38:20,134 --> 00:38:23,133
who will make available
at the next session

842
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:25,267
at the continuing hearing.

843
00:38:25,267 --> 00:38:27,001
Thank you.

844
00:38:27,001 --> 00:38:28,267
Thank you sir.

845
00:38:28,267 --> 00:38:30,500
Is there anyone else who would
like to speak in opposition?

846
00:38:36,467 --> 00:38:37,234
Thank you.

847
00:38:37,234 --> 00:38:41,335
Ladies and gentlemen of the XB.

848
00:38:41,435 --> 00:38:45,034
My name is Michael Hanlon.
I'm a former member of the board
of the Park Civic Association,

849
00:38:45,034 --> 00:38:47,434
and I will not reiterate
the points I made

850
00:38:47,434 --> 00:38:51,967
in the submission I filed
with the Derby yesterday.

851
00:38:52,067 --> 00:38:53,301
And focus on two points.

852
00:38:53,301 --> 00:38:56,834
Specifically how the APCs action

853
00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,800
in this we.

854
00:39:00,034 --> 00:39:04,034
I was a board member
both in 2025

855
00:39:04,034 --> 00:39:05,167
when the board adopted

856
00:39:05,167 --> 00:39:09,301
its neighborhood plan,
and until last Wednesday,

857
00:39:09,301 --> 00:39:12,967
when the board adopted
the resolution that

858
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:17,201
accepts the recommendation
of the zoning committee.

859
00:39:17,201 --> 00:39:20,001
And the point I want to make

860
00:39:20,001 --> 00:39:21,868
is that our neighborhood
conservation

861
00:39:21,868 --> 00:39:24,900
plan does not support
historic designation.

862
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,267
In fact,
it does the exact opposite.

863
00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:31,067
First of all, by its clear
and explicit

864
00:39:31,134 --> 00:39:34,267
wording that every produced
in my letter to you.

865
00:39:34,267 --> 00:39:36,401
And secondly,
if that were not enough,

866
00:39:36,401 --> 00:39:39,401
and I was quite shocked to hear
my colleagues on the board

867
00:39:39,501 --> 00:39:43,534
say that no, in fact,
this conservation study does

868
00:39:43,534 --> 00:39:45,334
support
historic designation. Admit

869
00:39:45,334 --> 00:39:47,868
there's a sentence in there
somewhere that says that.

870
00:39:47,868 --> 00:39:51,901
But I'd like to read to you
from the minutes of that meeting

871
00:39:51,901 --> 00:39:55,568
that are publicly available
on our website for all to read.

872
00:39:55,568 --> 00:39:59,134
And so when it gets to the point
and the discussion

873
00:39:59,201 --> 00:40:01,634
focused on the study
recommendation five,

874
00:40:01,634 --> 00:40:04,835
there was also some discussion
focusing on the references

875
00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:07,868
to Ansley Park's inclusion
in the National Register

876
00:40:07,868 --> 00:40:10,501
of Historic Places,
and that attempts to pursue

877
00:40:10,501 --> 00:40:13,768
historic designation for
the neighborhood had not passed.

878
00:40:13,868 --> 00:40:17,601
Mr. Brown, the APC board
president, emphasized

879
00:40:17,601 --> 00:40:20,900
that those references
were included expressly convey

880
00:40:21,967 --> 00:40:23,368
that the

881
00:40:23,368 --> 00:40:26,401
plans purpose was limited
to working with existing

882
00:40:26,401 --> 00:40:29,135
zoning code regulations
for the neighborhood,

883
00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:32,434
and not a disguised attempt
at reintroducing the constraints

884
00:40:32,434 --> 00:40:35,567
of historic designation
on Ansley Park residents.

885
00:40:37,633 --> 00:40:38,934
There was some disagreement

886
00:40:38,934 --> 00:40:42,468
on one of the recommendations,

887
00:40:42,468 --> 00:40:45,634
and ultimately
the board approved the plan.

888
00:40:45,634 --> 00:40:49,001
On that basis, both myself
and the previous speaker,

889
00:40:49,134 --> 00:40:52,134
John Jordan, who is also
a board member at the time.

890
00:40:52,301 --> 00:40:54,601
The only reason we supported
this was

891
00:40:54,601 --> 00:40:58,534
that plan was expressly
to not find ourselves

892
00:40:58,534 --> 00:41:00,735
in the situation
where we are today.

893
00:41:00,735 --> 00:41:02,201
That is the first point
I will make

894
00:41:02,201 --> 00:41:03,701
and the second point
I will make.

895
00:41:03,701 --> 00:41:06,234
Coming to the recommendation
very briefly,

896
00:41:06,234 --> 00:41:08,134
is that the recommendation,
or rather

897
00:41:08,134 --> 00:41:10,534
the resolution
that was adopted by the board,

898
00:41:10,534 --> 00:41:12,368
is very carefully worded.

899
00:41:12,368 --> 00:41:13,768
It does not say

900
00:41:13,768 --> 00:41:16,701
supporting of historic
designation is does not say

901
00:41:16,701 --> 00:41:18,668
this is a great idea
for the neighborhood.

902
00:41:18,668 --> 00:41:21,633
What it specifically says
is that

903
00:41:22,201 --> 00:41:26,267
we accept the recommendation
of the zoning committee,

904
00:41:26,434 --> 00:41:31,934
and the entire point of that
was for the board to say, well,

905
00:41:33,601 --> 00:41:35,868
the zoning committee
came to its conclusion.

906
00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:38,834
It seems to have done its job,
and therefore

907
00:41:39,501 --> 00:41:41,634
we will accept
that recommendation.

908
00:41:41,634 --> 00:41:43,634
But it doesn't go
any further than that.

909
00:41:43,634 --> 00:41:46,800
It should not be interpreted
as anything broader than that.

910
00:41:47,267 --> 00:41:49,735
Other than that,
I refer back to the materials

911
00:41:49,735 --> 00:41:52,734
I've already filed
and I thank you for your time.

912
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:55,501
Thank you sir.

913
00:41:55,501 --> 00:41:56,768
How much time remains for that?

914
00:41:56,768 --> 00:42:00,267
I should just add that
I sent a copy of the minutes

915
00:42:00,468 --> 00:42:04,234
to the NPU website,
as I realized I hadn't included

916
00:42:04,234 --> 00:42:06,801
my original submissions.
My apologies. Okay.

917
00:42:06,801 --> 00:42:09,501
Thank you. How much time remains
for the opposition?

918
00:42:09,501 --> 00:42:13,001
Two 1703
17 remains for the opposition.

919
00:42:13,267 --> 00:42:16,266
Okay.

920
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,768
Hello, my name is Deja Carter.

921
00:42:19,768 --> 00:42:23,534
I live at 21 Peachtree Circle,
and in one of the homes

922
00:42:23,534 --> 00:42:26,368
that would be impacted
by this decision,

923
00:42:26,368 --> 00:42:27,801
my neighbors
made some great points.

924
00:42:27,801 --> 00:42:30,167
I will not be labor those
in the time that we have left.

925
00:42:30,167 --> 00:42:33,201
I'll just mention two
that haven't come up yet.

926
00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:36,401
The first is the precedent
that we would be setting here.

927
00:42:36,401 --> 00:42:39,601
If you acknowledge Peachtree
Circle as a historic district,

928
00:42:39,768 --> 00:42:43,201
I think in all of the references
that I have emailed to you

929
00:42:43,201 --> 00:42:46,801
in 2022, the entire neighborhood
had an opportunity

930
00:42:46,801 --> 00:42:49,968
to become a historic district,
and that was summarily rejected.

931
00:42:50,035 --> 00:42:54,034
If you select Peachtree Circle,
it gives the opportunity,

932
00:42:54,101 --> 00:42:56,701
one street at a time,
for the neighborhood

933
00:42:56,701 --> 00:42:58,768
to be designated
as a historic district,

934
00:42:58,768 --> 00:43:01,800
which was not requested
or required at that time,

935
00:43:02,534 --> 00:43:05,801
creates a patchwork
of inconsistent regulation,

936
00:43:05,801 --> 00:43:09,067
and it is not in the board's
best interest,

937
00:43:09,067 --> 00:43:10,801
I think, to have that.

938
00:43:10,801 --> 00:43:14,101
The second point
that I want to call out

939
00:43:14,101 --> 00:43:17,101
is there's an uneven
and disproportionate burden

940
00:43:17,101 --> 00:43:18,935
on specific homeowners.

941
00:43:18,935 --> 00:43:23,134
Peachtree circle is a street
with mixed error homes,

942
00:43:23,134 --> 00:43:26,468
and the regulations
would apply unevenly.

943
00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:28,934
There would be a greater
financial burden on the homes

944
00:43:28,934 --> 00:43:30,768
that are newer,
including my own,

945
00:43:30,768 --> 00:43:35,167
who still have to apply
to some of the designations.

946
00:43:36,235 --> 00:43:38,001
Mr. Reed
is going to tell you
that our designations

947
00:43:38,001 --> 00:43:39,700
are lighter
because we are newer.

948
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:40,734
That is true.

949
00:43:40,734 --> 00:43:42,634
If some significant

950
00:43:42,634 --> 00:43:45,434
thing happens to my home,
I can either rebuild

951
00:43:45,434 --> 00:43:46,568
exactly as it is.

952
00:43:46,568 --> 00:43:48,002
I think we all know what happens

953
00:43:48,002 --> 00:43:50,967
when we try to match something
that was once was, or

954
00:43:51,101 --> 00:43:55,234
I have the option of rebuilding
in the historic era.

955
00:43:55,234 --> 00:43:57,035
I bought a home built in 2006.

956
00:43:57,035 --> 00:44:01,567
I do not want one that reflects
an era of historic designation.

957
00:44:01,667 --> 00:44:02,700
That's not.

958
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:03,600
It's just not what I wanted.

959
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,234
And I think that the

960
00:44:05,234 --> 00:44:09,900
requirements on those types
of homes are unfair. The.

961
00:44:12,468 --> 00:44:15,467
The last point is that.

962
00:44:18,701 --> 00:44:20,867
So I guess I'll end
with saying that it

963
00:44:20,867 --> 00:44:22,167
that this is a permanent,

964
00:44:22,167 --> 00:44:25,002
uneven and financially
burdensome designation

965
00:44:25,002 --> 00:44:27,701
being advanced without clear
community support. As Mr.

966
00:44:27,701 --> 00:44:31,267
Jordan noted, our own numbers
via the zoning board

967
00:44:31,267 --> 00:44:35,668
who did approve, indicated 50%
more opposition than support.

968
00:44:35,735 --> 00:44:38,102
However, members
of the zoning board themselves

969
00:44:38,102 --> 00:44:41,368
were personally vested in this,
and that is my personal opinion

970
00:44:41,468 --> 00:44:44,401
of why they approved it
and why the APC board

971
00:44:44,501 --> 00:44:46,301
across the board
supported it as well.

972
00:44:46,301 --> 00:44:48,433
Thank you,

973
00:44:48,433 --> 00:44:50,002
thank you.

974
00:44:50,002 --> 00:44:53,001
Is there anyone else who would
like to speak in opposition?

975
00:44:57,101 --> 00:44:59,034
And how much time remains
for the opposition?

976
00:44:59,034 --> 00:45:04,868
Now, 56
seconds can be very brief.

977
00:45:05,068 --> 00:45:08,167
My name is Henry Lapeer.
I live at 175 Peace Circle
and one of the affected homes.

978
00:45:08,534 --> 00:45:10,800
Just to build
off the discussion before,

979
00:45:12,001 --> 00:45:14,768
while we've had a process to

980
00:45:14,768 --> 00:45:18,968
revise the regulations
once the city became involved,

981
00:45:19,035 --> 00:45:22,034
we've never had an opportunity
to contest the actual borders

982
00:45:22,134 --> 00:45:24,001
or involve our neighbors
about why we selected

983
00:45:24,001 --> 00:45:27,002
just this part of our larger
neighborhood.

984
00:45:27,268 --> 00:45:28,234
The historic character
neighborhood
extends through all of it.

985
00:45:28,234 --> 00:45:30,401
They show the entire
map of the Olmsted.

986
00:45:30,401 --> 00:45:32,001
They selected one street,

987
00:45:32,001 --> 00:45:33,234
and there's
some curious inclusions,

988
00:45:33,234 --> 00:45:34,334
including that condominium

989
00:45:34,334 --> 00:45:36,301
in the park,
which seemed to predispose

990
00:45:36,301 --> 00:45:38,534
a certain conclusion
to this process.

991
00:45:38,534 --> 00:45:40,167
The net effect,
whether that was intentional

992
00:45:40,167 --> 00:45:42,734
or not, is to disenfranchize
those of us that oppose

993
00:45:42,734 --> 00:45:43,935
and cannot
give us an opportunity

994
00:45:43,935 --> 00:45:46,167
to have an opinion
about where those boundaries lie

995
00:45:46,167 --> 00:45:48,868
and how they affect us
and the larger neighborhood.

996
00:45:48,868 --> 00:45:50,167
This is a discussion
that needs to happen

997
00:45:50,167 --> 00:45:52,368
for all the neighbors
in this neighborhood.

998
00:45:53,068 --> 00:45:55,900
Not to leave
us, a few of us handling the
responsibilities for ourselves.

999
00:45:56,167 --> 00:45:58,467
I'll leave you with that.
Thank you.

1000
00:45:58,467 --> 00:45:59,800
Thank you.

1001
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,101
That's time for the opposition.

1002
00:46:04,434 --> 00:46:07,101
How much
time remains for the applicant?

1003
00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:09,468
Or actually
for those in support?

1004
00:46:09,468 --> 00:46:11,334
The city is the applicant.

1005
00:46:11,334 --> 00:46:15,333
Four minutes, 15
for 458 remains.

1006
00:46:18,301 --> 00:46:19,201
You can't provide

1007
00:46:19,201 --> 00:46:22,200
additional materials.

1008
00:46:32,467 --> 00:46:34,067
Mr. Gandhi had

1009
00:46:34,067 --> 00:46:37,034
mentioned a study,
and fortunately, we were able to

1010
00:46:37,101 --> 00:46:38,201
track that study down.

1011
00:46:38,201 --> 00:46:42,868
And and our team who does

1012
00:46:42,868 --> 00:46:47,234
these is doing this ongoing
study that found no significant

1013
00:46:47,234 --> 00:46:49,868
difference
between neighborhoods.

1014
00:46:49,868 --> 00:46:51,401
His contingent,
of course, is about streets.

1015
00:46:51,401 --> 00:46:53,935
But I'll ask you to sort of
think about the

1016
00:46:53,935 --> 00:46:57,901
the designated neighborhoods
in the city, in the park,

1017
00:46:58,302 --> 00:47:01,734
Grant Park,
you know, Collier Heights and
the surrounding neighborhoods.

1018
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,367
And if you

1019
00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:03,468
if you see

1020
00:47:03,468 --> 00:47:05,334
substantial differences
in values

1021
00:47:05,334 --> 00:47:08,468
there, where the neighborhood,
the designated neighborhood

1022
00:47:08,468 --> 00:47:10,334
is less value
than the neighborhood

1023
00:47:10,334 --> 00:47:12,768
just outside, that's a similar
sort of comparison.

1024
00:47:12,768 --> 00:47:14,767
I think we can all sort of
see that one.

1025
00:47:14,767 --> 00:47:16,533
That said, the

1026
00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:19,334
the report itself, the the

1027
00:47:19,334 --> 00:47:23,133
study that was cited,
even in its

1028
00:47:24,201 --> 00:47:27,167
findings,
the authors describe the

1029
00:47:27,368 --> 00:47:28,800
designation
as having a negative effect,

1030
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,534
but they also expressly stated

1031
00:47:30,534 --> 00:47:33,201
that the result is such
that we cannot even

1032
00:47:33,201 --> 00:47:35,734
exclude the possibility
that the delta is zero,

1033
00:47:35,734 --> 00:47:37,601
and that the estimated effect

1034
00:47:37,601 --> 00:47:40,568
had a confidence
level of only 40.5%.

1035
00:47:40,634 --> 00:47:44,066
So some serious considerations
around that study.

1036
00:47:45,134 --> 00:47:48,134
The other points,
just to be clear,

1037
00:47:48,134 --> 00:47:50,501
the city parks
department in Wind Park

1038
00:47:50,501 --> 00:47:51,968
is supportive
of this designation.

1039
00:47:51,968 --> 00:47:55,401
They believe that the the
historic materials in the park

1040
00:47:55,468 --> 00:47:56,634
are something to be preserved,

1041
00:47:56,634 --> 00:47:59,167
and they appreciate
our interaction with them.

1042
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:02,067
And so to the degree
that we count that as support,

1043
00:48:02,067 --> 00:48:05,066
we we do so.

1044
00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:07,835
I think the math on the

1045
00:48:07,835 --> 00:48:10,701
the level of support
was a bit of a stretch.

1046
00:48:10,701 --> 00:48:13,334
So I'm just going to leave
that one to be what it is.

1047
00:48:13,334 --> 00:48:16,266
And then the question of

1048
00:48:17,734 --> 00:48:19,533
property rights and

1049
00:48:19,533 --> 00:48:23,800
values, I think that we

1050
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:25,968
you know,
I've sort of spoken to the value
piece of this as well.

1051
00:48:25,968 --> 00:48:30,768
But the the property rights in
particular, the, the idea that

1052
00:48:30,768 --> 00:48:34,201
that every home is privately
owned is substantial.

1053
00:48:34,534 --> 00:48:38,600
And there's this is a very light
touch regulation.

1054
00:48:38,667 --> 00:48:40,301
We are very

1055
00:48:40,301 --> 00:48:42,067
we are really focusing on simply

1056
00:48:42,067 --> 00:48:44,701
the preservation of
of the facades in particular

1057
00:48:44,701 --> 00:48:46,234
and their relationship
to the streets.

1058
00:48:46,234 --> 00:48:49,501
I think some of the pictures
you've seen where the houses

1059
00:48:49,501 --> 00:48:52,867
have been demolished
and the lots have been scraped,

1060
00:48:53,334 --> 00:48:56,301
sort of speaks
to what the changes can happen

1061
00:48:56,601 --> 00:49:01,568
around such teardowns,
and that we have the opportunity

1062
00:49:01,568 --> 00:49:04,600
to say that this
some of these buildings are,

1063
00:49:06,168 --> 00:49:08,934
and their relationship
to the street and relationships
to the landscape are

1064
00:49:09,934 --> 00:49:11,368
are a true public interest.

1065
00:49:11,368 --> 00:49:13,067
And that's our opportunity here.

1066
00:49:13,067 --> 00:49:14,901
And what I'm
going to leave you with tonight,

1067
00:49:14,901 --> 00:49:17,167
and then I will leave
for the rest of my time

1068
00:49:17,167 --> 00:49:18,334
for someone to come up

1069
00:49:18,334 --> 00:49:21,300
for some of the additional
supporters to come up.

1070
00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:24,400
How much time is left?

1071
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,367
210 remains.

1072
00:49:29,634 --> 00:49:31,967
David go first
and then Miss Lyman.

1073
00:49:31,967 --> 00:49:34,934
All right.

1074
00:49:36,302 --> 00:49:39,767
Hello, everybody.
I'm Joan Lyman, and I reside at
116 Peachtree Circle.

1075
00:49:40,434 --> 00:49:42,434
And all the conversations
that have been happening

1076
00:49:42,434 --> 00:49:44,501
about hardship
and reconstruction.

1077
00:49:44,501 --> 00:49:46,601
And if there's issues
for your home.

1078
00:49:46,601 --> 00:49:49,135
My home was finished in 1915.

1079
00:49:49,135 --> 00:49:53,034
It was acquired by a family that
lived there for over 75 years.

1080
00:49:53,201 --> 00:49:56,633
And that was Daniel
Rich and his family.

1081
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,334
When I purchased it at no.

1082
00:49:58,334 --> 00:50:02,001
Nine, my inspection
report was 400 pages.

1083
00:50:02,201 --> 00:50:04,901
My bank pulled out of it
and had to buy it for cash.

1084
00:50:04,901 --> 00:50:07,568
I am still in the middle
of the renovation

1085
00:50:07,568 --> 00:50:09,167
and restoration
of that property.

1086
00:50:09,167 --> 00:50:11,167
Even now,
with the historic district

1087
00:50:11,167 --> 00:50:13,735
and the conditions
that's going to put on is,

1088
00:50:13,735 --> 00:50:18,002
I still feel enlightened
and hopeful and very supportive

1089
00:50:18,102 --> 00:50:23,535
that I will get through this,
this report of 400 pages.

1090
00:50:23,535 --> 00:50:27,334
I'm halfway through.
I have another 200 pages
of problems, but in no way does

1091
00:50:27,401 --> 00:50:30,368
interim controls affect
or inhibit

1092
00:50:30,368 --> 00:50:35,801
the the cost of doing it,
as well as the value of my home

1093
00:50:35,968 --> 00:50:39,267
in the future.
I just hope you will consider
this, because our property

1094
00:50:39,468 --> 00:50:43,201
on Peachtree Circle is a place
that those before us

1095
00:50:44,502 --> 00:50:47,767
thought of leaving
something of historic value,
and we'd like to continue that.

1096
00:50:47,767 --> 00:50:49,301
Thank you for your time.

1097
00:50:49,301 --> 00:50:55,368
Thank you. And 1 or 2 remains.

1098
00:50:55,534 --> 00:50:59,134
David Mitchell,
327 Saint Paul Avenue, southeast
Atlanta, Georgia 32312.

1099
00:50:59,568 --> 00:51:00,967
One of the homes
that was exhibited

1100
00:51:00,967 --> 00:51:02,601
here was the Randolph
Lucas Jones home.

1101
00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:04,867
It already is a local
landmark. It's been landmarked.

1102
00:51:04,867 --> 00:51:06,634
This committee
did this about a year ago.

1103
00:51:06,634 --> 00:51:08,001
It's already shown
the significance.

1104
00:51:08,001 --> 00:51:09,835
All we're doing
is asking you to build upon

1105
00:51:09,835 --> 00:51:11,835
what is already established,
contributing

1106
00:51:11,835 --> 00:51:13,701
significant component
of the city of Atlanta.

1107
00:51:13,701 --> 00:51:15,267
You're making it landed
right with this vote.

1108
00:51:15,267 --> 00:51:16,468
You're doing something
that's going to change

1109
00:51:16,468 --> 00:51:18,301
and impact people
for the generations to come.

1110
00:51:18,301 --> 00:51:20,568
We ask you
to be very thoughtful of this

1111
00:51:20,568 --> 00:51:22,968
and beseech you
to allow this move forward.

1112
00:51:22,968 --> 00:51:24,835
As the Executive Director,
Atlanta Preservation Center,

1113
00:51:24,835 --> 00:51:26,901
I can assure you
that historic properties,

1114
00:51:26,901 --> 00:51:29,768
historic homes
only continue to go up in value.

1115
00:51:30,002 --> 00:51:31,634
And I can assure you that.
Am I happy to provide
information at a later date?

1116
00:51:31,634 --> 00:51:33,633
Thank you very much. Thank you.

1117
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:37,201
Anytime. We.

1118
00:51:37,201 --> 00:51:40,102
28 seconds remaining,
is there any additional comments

1119
00:51:40,102 --> 00:51:43,500
that we would like to make
in support of the application?

1120
00:51:46,101 --> 00:51:47,267
Wrap up the 28 seconds.

1121
00:51:47,267 --> 00:51:48,801
I think you can understand

1122
00:51:48,801 --> 00:51:51,301
the sort of passion that
the proponents of this have,

1123
00:51:51,301 --> 00:51:54,867
and that their work
for many years

1124
00:51:55,468 --> 00:51:58,668
in this past year in particular,
has been substantial to

1125
00:51:58,768 --> 00:52:00,368
to guard the support
that we have.

1126
00:52:00,368 --> 00:52:05,200
And so please do refer to some
of those supporting emails and

1127
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:08,600
petitions. Thank you.

1128
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,600
Thank you sir.

1129
00:52:12,434 --> 00:52:14,067
We will enter deliberation now.

1130
00:52:14,067 --> 00:52:17,034
Questions
or comments from the board.

1131
00:52:17,434 --> 00:52:20,035
I had a couple of questions.

1132
00:52:20,469 --> 00:52:24,034
Our thoughts.
First of all, isn't Atkins Park
in Virginia Highland?

1133
00:52:24,034 --> 00:52:25,501
Wouldn't that be another example

1134
00:52:25,501 --> 00:52:27,901
of a single street
in a neighborhood

1135
00:52:27,901 --> 00:52:31,867
that has a historic designation
when the neighborhood does not?

1136
00:52:32,501 --> 00:52:36,101
In Virginia Highlands
first, the Bonaventure, Somerset

1137
00:52:36,368 --> 00:52:39,634
designation was in place, then

1138
00:52:39,634 --> 00:52:43,266
Bonaventure,
Somerset was wrapped into

1139
00:52:44,434 --> 00:52:47,433
another historic
district that I can't remember.

1140
00:52:47,433 --> 00:52:50,434
Plenty Highland

1141
00:52:50,434 --> 00:52:53,800
Historic historic designation
or historic district?

1142
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,868
I'm sorry, Historic district.

1143
00:52:55,868 --> 00:52:59,967
Okay, but Atkins, I thought
maybe his park is separate

1144
00:52:59,967 --> 00:53:03,500
and it is a in C district.

1145
00:53:03,567 --> 00:53:05,334
Okay,

1146
00:53:05,334 --> 00:53:07,401
my other question was,

1147
00:53:07,401 --> 00:53:10,067
I don't know if you have
this history, Miss Homeless, but

1148
00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:15,768
when the full neighborhood came
before the city.

1149
00:53:16,235 --> 00:53:17,568
Well, actually, I'm sorry.
Maybe the full neighborhood
didn't come before the city

1150
00:53:17,568 --> 00:53:18,835
because it wasn't
able to get past.

1151
00:53:18,835 --> 00:53:21,468
Do you have any of the history
that you could provide about

1152
00:53:21,468 --> 00:53:23,067
the park has attempted.

1153
00:53:23,067 --> 00:53:26,134
Ansley Park has attempted
historic designation

1154
00:53:26,134 --> 00:53:29,034
at least two times, I believe,

1155
00:53:29,034 --> 00:53:31,868
since I have been in the city,
and I do believe

1156
00:53:31,868 --> 00:53:34,368
they have attempted at one time
prior to that.

1157
00:53:34,368 --> 00:53:35,735
So at least three times.

1158
00:53:35,735 --> 00:53:38,268
Ainslie Park
as a full neighborhood

1159
00:53:38,602 --> 00:53:41,401
has attempted
to become a historic district
and each time that has failed.

1160
00:53:41,801 --> 00:53:45,234
Do you have an idea as to what
the kind of general

1161
00:53:45,334 --> 00:53:46,368
vote percentages were?

1162
00:53:46,368 --> 00:53:48,034
I mean, what are we looking at
kind of 5050?

1163
00:53:48,034 --> 00:53:52,601
Or was it generally way. No, no.

1164
00:53:53,002 --> 00:53:55,667
And Miss
Freezes is Miss
Freeze here tonight Jennifer.

1165
00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:58,601
Freeze. She's not.

1166
00:53:58,601 --> 00:54:01,201
And she was the person
who was leading the last effort
in Ansley Park.

1167
00:54:01,201 --> 00:54:03,735
And she could probably speak
to the specifics of those.

1168
00:54:03,735 --> 00:54:05,167
There are a couple of people
in the audience

1169
00:54:05,167 --> 00:54:06,634
who are raising their hands
as if they could speak.

1170
00:54:06,634 --> 00:54:07,967
I know
we are an executive session,

1171
00:54:07,967 --> 00:54:09,701
so we're not really allowed
to get feedback

1172
00:54:09,701 --> 00:54:11,301
from individuals,
I appreciate it.

1173
00:54:11,301 --> 00:54:14,266
Some of y'all probably do have
some history in that, but.

1174
00:54:18,368 --> 00:54:20,935
I'm personally torn this.

1175
00:54:21,202 --> 00:54:23,167
I live in Candler
Park and I have watched
our neighborhood

1176
00:54:23,167 --> 00:54:24,767
try many, many times
to go through

1177
00:54:24,767 --> 00:54:26,234
historic district designation.

1178
00:54:26,234 --> 00:54:30,668
And it never succeeds
because in my personal opinion,

1179
00:54:31,235 --> 00:54:33,334
decades ago,
I think there was a little bit
more community connection

1180
00:54:33,334 --> 00:54:35,134
to the neighborhood
and a little less

1181
00:54:35,134 --> 00:54:37,101
private property values,

1182
00:54:37,101 --> 00:54:38,701
which is why neighborhoods
like Inman Park

1183
00:54:38,701 --> 00:54:40,668
were able to get it
through many moons ago.

1184
00:54:40,668 --> 00:54:43,333
But Candler Park still can't
and probably never will.

1185
00:54:44,534 --> 00:54:46,601
I think there's
real value with homes like this

1186
00:54:46,601 --> 00:54:48,102
for historic
district designation,

1187
00:54:48,102 --> 00:54:51,533
but I'm a little concerned about
the street street approach.

1188
00:54:52,201 --> 00:54:54,201
I miss homes,
as anybody on staff

1189
00:54:54,201 --> 00:54:57,035
have any concerns
about that kind of approach.

1190
00:54:57,369 --> 00:54:58,668
Or do you think that's
actually the best way to go
when a full name?

1191
00:54:58,668 --> 00:55:00,034
I don't think it's a street
to street,

1192
00:55:00,034 --> 00:55:01,568
a street to street approach.

1193
00:55:01,568 --> 00:55:06,101
I think that Randolph Lucas
inspired the persons

1194
00:55:06,101 --> 00:55:09,534
who live on Peachtree Circle
to consider this.

1195
00:55:09,668 --> 00:55:11,301
I don't think that
this will mean that

1196
00:55:11,301 --> 00:55:14,300
the overall Ansley Park
will then consider

1197
00:55:15,368 --> 00:55:16,501
a historic designation.

1198
00:55:16,501 --> 00:55:18,401
It has failed twice before,

1199
00:55:18,401 --> 00:55:20,167
and so I don't have
any confidence

1200
00:55:20,167 --> 00:55:22,568
that Ansley Park
will become a historic district.

1201
00:55:22,568 --> 00:55:23,867
I believe that the folks on

1202
00:55:23,867 --> 00:55:25,468
Peachtree
Circle have made a decision.

1203
00:55:25,468 --> 00:55:27,967
And it
is before you all tonight.

1204
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:33,934
Any other questions or comments?

1205
00:55:33,934 --> 00:55:36,434
Mr. Reed, can you explain?

1206
00:55:36,434 --> 00:55:39,468
I mean,
I've read in the documents

1207
00:55:39,468 --> 00:55:43,234
that were provided,
give some high level discussion

1208
00:55:43,234 --> 00:55:48,501
on what the requirements will
actually mean for homeowners.

1209
00:55:49,002 --> 00:55:50,934
Certainly.
So the the as I mentioned
in the presentation,

1210
00:55:50,934 --> 00:55:52,801
the the focus is on
the public realm.

1211
00:55:52,801 --> 00:55:56,001
So the importance is, of course,
the historic buildings

1212
00:55:56,601 --> 00:56:00,001
and their relationship
to the street as they are.

1213
00:56:00,468 --> 00:56:03,468
Peachtree circle is features

1214
00:56:03,468 --> 00:56:06,668
that Olmsted and design
where it's a variable setbacks.

1215
00:56:06,668 --> 00:56:09,301
And so currently
what we're seeing is that

1216
00:56:09,301 --> 00:56:13,234
houses will be torn down,
move to the allowed setback

1217
00:56:13,301 --> 00:56:16,267
of the underlying
zoning and interrupt the sort of

1218
00:56:16,468 --> 00:56:19,267
pattern of the street.
So that's one of the things
that this

1219
00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:23,002
ordinance would address,
this regulation would address.

1220
00:56:23,002 --> 00:56:27,700
So the setbacks become assigned
to your neighboring properties,

1221
00:56:29,135 --> 00:56:32,501
and also the sort of
sense of scale and relationship
to the existing buildings.

1222
00:56:32,501 --> 00:56:34,901
Those are important elements
as well.

1223
00:56:34,901 --> 00:56:38,867
The front facades are would
remain in place.

1224
00:56:38,867 --> 00:56:41,501
They would be required
to be part of the

1225
00:56:41,501 --> 00:56:43,334
of any sort of redevelopment.

1226
00:56:43,334 --> 00:56:47,468
But the basically rear additions
would be allowed up

1227
00:56:47,468 --> 00:56:51,102
to sort of 20ft
from the front facade.

1228
00:56:51,235 --> 00:56:54,835
So theoretically you would
be able to reconstruct the house
from that point back.

1229
00:56:55,068 --> 00:56:58,101
And even on the front facades,
you would be allowed to update

1230
00:56:58,101 --> 00:57:01,134
the windows and change doors
and whatnot.

1231
00:57:01,234 --> 00:57:04,768
Generally speaking, inside
of a compatible renovation

1232
00:57:04,768 --> 00:57:07,601
or a compatible addition
that follows the

1233
00:57:07,601 --> 00:57:11,700
the style of the
house and then new houses. A

1234
00:57:12,735 --> 00:57:15,634
we the the neighborhood
as part of the zoning committee

1235
00:57:15,634 --> 00:57:18,935
made some recommendations
that we have the styles

1236
00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:21,901
of the houses of styles
of the period of significance

1237
00:57:22,002 --> 00:57:24,468
be the sort of basis of that,
but that new houses

1238
00:57:24,468 --> 00:57:26,334
would need to be compatible
with those

1239
00:57:26,334 --> 00:57:29,300
if a house were to be lost.

1240
00:57:30,034 --> 00:57:32,835
And also,
you know, noncontributing houses

1241
00:57:32,835 --> 00:57:35,934
are also allowed
to be demolished still.

1242
00:57:35,934 --> 00:57:37,001
And so there is

1243
00:57:37,001 --> 00:57:38,468
a substantial number
of contributing houses,

1244
00:57:38,468 --> 00:57:40,568
which is the beauty
of this neighborhood.

1245
00:57:40,568 --> 00:57:43,633
But the noncontributing houses
would allow to be demolished.

1246
00:57:45,369 --> 00:57:47,900
Generally speaking,
they would have to follow
their existing footprint,
or they would have to

1247
00:57:48,067 --> 00:57:50,301
meet the requirements
of the new regulations.

1248
00:57:50,301 --> 00:57:53,834
And we did address
the sort of conditions of what a

1249
00:57:54,368 --> 00:57:55,267
the various conditions.

1250
00:57:55,267 --> 00:57:57,667
If there's
a catastrophic loss of a

1251
00:57:59,501 --> 00:58:01,434
contributing house,
you would have to follow those

1252
00:58:01,434 --> 00:58:03,002
that basically the same style
that you had,

1253
00:58:03,002 --> 00:58:05,801
but not contributing houses
have the option to build back

1254
00:58:05,801 --> 00:58:09,400
what they had to follow
the new house regulations.

1255
00:58:10,568 --> 00:58:14,834
So a noncontributing structure
would not need a type four.

1256
00:58:14,834 --> 00:58:16,734
Or was it a type
four application?

1257
00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:18,835
Correct.

1258
00:58:19,002 --> 00:58:20,434
Would it be?
It would be a redevelopment

1259
00:58:20,434 --> 00:58:23,400
of a of a Noncontributing
structure would be

1260
00:58:24,301 --> 00:58:27,301
considered
as part of a type three, type

1261
00:58:27,301 --> 00:58:35,167
three development.

1262
00:58:35,468 --> 00:58:38,167
Okay.
I'm prepared to hear a motion.

1263
00:58:38,835 --> 00:58:41,800
Madam chair,
with respect to case number

1264
00:58:41,867 --> 00:58:45,633
Z 26 dash 40.

1265
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,567
I'm sorry.

1266
00:58:47,567 --> 00:58:51,100
Three Z 2643

1267
00:58:52,401 --> 00:58:55,601
I recommend that this board
accept the state's finding fact.

1268
00:58:55,835 --> 00:58:58,201
Second motion
been made and properly seconded.

1269
00:58:58,201 --> 00:59:00,800
All in favor,
say aye. Aye. Opposed? Nay.

1270
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,134
Motion passes.

1271
00:59:02,134 --> 00:59:07,301
Madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 2643,

1272
00:59:07,401 --> 00:59:10,601
I recommend that this board
setting forth a recommendation

1273
00:59:10,601 --> 00:59:14,801
of approval, second motion
been made and properly seconded.

1274
00:59:14,801 --> 00:59:20,768
All have ever say in opposed
nay a motion passes

1275
00:59:20,901 --> 00:59:22,835
you 2610
an ordinance by Zoning Committee
for a Special Use Permit

1276
00:59:22,835 --> 00:59:27,568
for Commercial Recreation
pursuant to section 1618 I007

1277
00:59:27,568 --> 00:59:30,134
for property
located at 3035 Peachtree Road,

1278
00:59:30,134 --> 00:59:33,900
305ft Tree Road,
northeast number 235 and 3027

1279
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,534
Bowling
Way northeast fronting 100.6ft

1280
00:59:36,534 --> 00:59:37,800
on the south side of Buckhead
Avenue,

1281
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,067
commencing at a scribe

1282
00:59:39,067 --> 00:59:40,835
set at the intersection
of the north right of way

1283
00:59:40,835 --> 00:59:42,734
line of Buckhead Avenue
and the easterly

1284
00:59:42,734 --> 00:59:44,201
right of way of Peachtree Road.

1285
00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:46,201
Deadline 46.53ft.

1286
00:59:46,201 --> 00:59:47,368
Area .94 acres.

1287
00:59:47,368 --> 00:59:50,034
Land lot 9917, Bishop County,
Georgia.

1288
00:59:50,034 --> 00:59:52,201
Owner and applicant J.P.

1289
00:59:52,201 --> 00:59:54,935
Buckhead Village LLP.

1290
00:59:55,035 --> 00:59:59,367
Care of Ana Maria
means dentist, US,
LLP, NPB Council District seven.

1291
01:00:00,701 --> 01:00:02,401
This is anyone
here who would like to speak

1292
01:00:02,401 --> 01:00:03,835
in support of this application.

1293
01:00:03,835 --> 01:00:06,834
And please
state your name and address.

1294
01:00:08,501 --> 01:00:10,368
Good evening,
chair and members of the board.

1295
01:00:10,368 --> 01:00:11,901
My name is Alexis Cromartie.

1296
01:00:11,901 --> 01:00:16,401
I am an attorney at Dentons US
LLP, located at 303

1297
01:00:16,401 --> 01:00:21,534
Peachtree Street Northeast,
Atlanta, Georgia 30308I

1298
01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:25,400
am here on behalf
of the applicant, Jamestown
Properties, specifically J.P.

1299
01:00:26,134 --> 01:00:29,267
Buckhead Village, L.P.,
in support of the application

1300
01:00:29,267 --> 01:00:30,601
for a special use permit

1301
01:00:30,601 --> 01:00:34,634
for commercial recreation
at 3035 Peachtree Road.

1302
01:00:34,868 --> 01:00:37,868
3035 Peachtree Road is located
within the Buckhead

1303
01:00:37,868 --> 01:00:40,434
Village district,
which is a mixed use development

1304
01:00:40,434 --> 01:00:43,067
owned and operated
by Jamestown Properties.

1305
01:00:43,067 --> 01:00:45,002
The applicant seeks a special

1306
01:00:45,002 --> 01:00:48,735
use permit for the use itself
within an existing building.

1307
01:00:48,835 --> 01:00:51,568
This is not a rezoning
and not a new development.

1308
01:00:51,568 --> 01:00:53,668
The use here is to operate
a commercial

1309
01:00:53,668 --> 01:00:57,500
recreational facility,
specifically a full service gym,

1310
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:01,468
within 42,432ft of

1311
01:01:01,968 --> 01:01:08,468
of interior space
and 3182ft of exterior terrace.

1312
01:01:08,668 --> 01:01:12,400
The gym will occupy space above
the existing sidewalk level.

1313
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,301
Retail uses.

1314
01:01:13,301 --> 01:01:14,434
In the same portion of

1315
01:01:14,434 --> 01:01:18,133
the development as the existing
Spanx headquarters near

1316
01:01:18,767 --> 01:01:21,700
Rolex and Carmel Restaurant.

1317
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:23,968
The facility will include

1318
01:01:23,968 --> 01:01:27,400
exercise studios
for yoga, pilates, and cycling.

1319
01:01:29,034 --> 01:01:30,334
Excuse me,

1320
01:01:30,334 --> 01:01:33,934
an open gym for strength
training and cardio,

1321
01:01:33,934 --> 01:01:36,967
an accessory, fitness terrace,
a spa,

1322
01:01:37,134 --> 01:01:41,167
a cafe and juice bar, a member
lounge and locker rooms.

1323
01:01:41,301 --> 01:01:44,434
Importantly, there will be no
basketball courts, no tennis

1324
01:01:44,434 --> 01:01:47,667
courts, no swimming pools
or other sports courts.

1325
01:01:47,734 --> 01:01:49,935
No new structures will be built.

1326
01:01:49,935 --> 01:01:54,002
This use is completely contained
within the existing building,

1327
01:01:54,068 --> 01:01:57,601
fitting seamlessly into the
established mix of retail,

1328
01:01:57,668 --> 01:02:01,233
office and dining uses already
operating in the district.

1329
01:02:01,934 --> 01:02:03,267
The property is located

1330
01:02:03,267 --> 01:02:04,967
on the east side
of Peachtree Road

1331
01:02:04,967 --> 01:02:07,067
between Buckhead Avenue
and Far Road.

1332
01:02:07,067 --> 01:02:10,067
It's zoned Spy nine SA1.

1333
01:02:10,067 --> 01:02:12,868
The Buckhead Village
development has operated here

1334
01:02:12,868 --> 01:02:16,967
for over a decade
and received its SAP in 2012.

1335
01:02:17,334 --> 01:02:20,267
Vehicles will use existing
curb cuts on Peachtree Road

1336
01:02:20,267 --> 01:02:21,468
and Buckhead Avenue.

1337
01:02:21,468 --> 01:02:25,301
We project approximately
250 vehicular trips a day,

1338
01:02:25,301 --> 01:02:28,568
and we also anticipate
that area residents will walk

1339
01:02:28,568 --> 01:02:30,768
or use alternative
transportation.

1340
01:02:30,768 --> 01:02:33,201
No road
improvements are necessary.

1341
01:02:33,201 --> 01:02:37,034
The development includes
760 existing parking spaces

1342
01:02:37,034 --> 01:02:39,001
in the adjacent
parking structure,

1343
01:02:39,001 --> 01:02:41,534
which is more than adequate
to serve this use.

1344
01:02:41,534 --> 01:02:44,134
The majority of activity occurs
indoors.

1345
01:02:44,134 --> 01:02:47,401
The exterior terrace
includes rubber flooring, turf

1346
01:02:47,401 --> 01:02:51,234
and planters, and is generally
not visible from the street.

1347
01:02:51,301 --> 01:02:54,267
We do not anticipate
any additional noise,

1348
01:02:54,267 --> 01:02:56,334
glare or light impact.

1349
01:02:56,334 --> 01:02:58,400
The gym will be open from 5 a.m.

1350
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,601
to 11 p.m.

1351
01:02:59,601 --> 01:03:01,668
Monday through Friday,
and 7 a.m.

1352
01:03:01,668 --> 01:03:04,301
to 9 p.m. on weekends
and holidays.

1353
01:03:04,301 --> 01:03:07,268
The Fitness Terrace
will open at 7 a.m.

1354
01:03:07,268 --> 01:03:10,667
daily.
There will be approximately
65 employees on rotation

1355
01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:11,967
seven days a week.

1356
01:03:11,967 --> 01:03:15,002
We presented this application
to Neighborhood

1357
01:03:15,002 --> 01:03:18,002
Planning Unit B and received
unanimous approval.

1358
01:03:18,002 --> 01:03:20,735
The community recognizes
that this is an appropriate

1359
01:03:20,735 --> 01:03:24,368
commercial use within an
existing mixed use development.

1360
01:03:24,434 --> 01:03:26,601
This application
adds an appropriate,

1361
01:03:26,601 --> 01:03:29,634
low impact commercial
use to an established mixed

1362
01:03:29,634 --> 01:03:31,967
use development,
with existing infrastructure,

1363
01:03:31,967 --> 01:03:34,534
parking and access
already in place.

1364
01:03:34,534 --> 01:03:36,568
It is consistent
with the character

1365
01:03:36,568 --> 01:03:38,868
of Buckhead Village
neighborhood.

1366
01:03:38,868 --> 01:03:41,735
On behalf of Jamestown
Properties, we respectfully ask

1367
01:03:41,735 --> 01:03:44,967
that this board approved
the Special Use Permit

1368
01:03:44,967 --> 01:03:48,234
for an indefinite
period of time.

1369
01:03:48,801 --> 01:03:50,868
Given the tenants
substantial investment

1370
01:03:50,868 --> 01:03:55,033
in this project and significant
capital outlay required,

1371
01:03:56,267 --> 01:03:58,201
excuse me in a definite Sup

1372
01:03:58,201 --> 01:04:00,968
would provide
the necessary stability

1373
01:04:01,335 --> 01:04:04,701
for the tenant to
commit to the project and ensure
its long term success.

1374
01:04:04,968 --> 01:04:07,834
I will also note that
when we presented to the MPU

1375
01:04:07,834 --> 01:04:11,101
and the DRC,
neither had any concerns

1376
01:04:11,101 --> 01:04:14,533
regarding our request
for an indefinite Sup.

1377
01:04:16,034 --> 01:04:18,568
We understand that
the staff recommendation

1378
01:04:18,568 --> 01:04:23,267
is for an Sup
for a term of 20 years.

1379
01:04:23,267 --> 01:04:25,201
We respectfully request

1380
01:04:25,201 --> 01:04:27,934
that the board consider
an indefinite permit.

1381
01:04:27,934 --> 01:04:30,101
However,
if you are not inclined to do

1382
01:04:30,101 --> 01:04:33,601
so, then we respectfully request
that you follow

1383
01:04:33,601 --> 01:04:37,634
the staff's recommendation
and keep the duration of the Sup

1384
01:04:37,701 --> 01:04:39,533
tied to the lease term
for the tenant.

1385
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:41,201
In this application,

1386
01:04:41,201 --> 01:04:43,867
which is a 20 year lease term,
and I reserve

1387
01:04:43,867 --> 01:04:45,101
the remainder of my time
for rebuttal.

1388
01:04:45,101 --> 01:04:47,434
Thank you, thank you.

1389
01:04:47,434 --> 01:04:48,768
Is there anyone who would like
to speak

1390
01:04:48,768 --> 01:04:50,968
in support
of the application at this time?

1391
01:04:50,968 --> 01:04:52,767
And is there anyone
who would like to speak in

1392
01:04:52,767 --> 01:04:56,002
opposition to the application

1393
01:04:56,235 --> 01:04:57,735
with the applicant?
Like to
make additional comments?

1394
01:04:57,735 --> 01:05:00,767
Oh, would you like to speak
in opposition?

1395
01:05:02,568 --> 01:05:05,034
I'm here
to speak in opposition of it.

1396
01:05:05,034 --> 01:05:06,534
Okay.

1397
01:05:06,534 --> 01:05:09,201
If I'm not mistaken, sir,
could you give your name

1398
01:05:09,201 --> 01:05:10,767
and your address, please?

1399
01:05:10,767 --> 01:05:12,468
My name is Peter Bloom.

1400
01:05:12,468 --> 01:05:14,434
You need to speak directly
into the microphone.

1401
01:05:14,434 --> 01:05:15,934
Sorry. Excuse me.

1402
01:05:15,934 --> 01:05:18,934
Peter Bloom. Pom.

1403
01:05:21,234 --> 01:05:23,934
Address,
and then you can proceed.

1404
01:05:23,934 --> 01:05:28,700
Two addresses, 1828
Mount Perrin. And.

1405
01:05:30,867 --> 01:05:33,034
An apartment building.

1406
01:05:33,034 --> 01:05:36,500
Two off 92 West Paces Ferry.

1407
01:05:38,134 --> 01:05:38,800
Okay.

1408
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,734
Go ahead.

1409
01:05:42,134 --> 01:05:44,201
For one thing,

1410
01:05:44,201 --> 01:05:47,134
you you're going to need
to speak into the microphone

1411
01:05:47,134 --> 01:05:50,267
instead of looking at the
at the slides.

1412
01:05:50,401 --> 01:05:54,101
One thing,
just to put it on the record,

1413
01:05:54,334 --> 01:05:58,300
I sold the property to RH

1414
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:01,434
to Restoration Hardware

1415
01:06:01,434 --> 01:06:04,967
and only adjacent property.

1416
01:06:06,002 --> 01:06:11,300
And I've got some questions
that I don't understand.

1417
01:06:12,633 --> 01:06:15,267
First question is

1418
01:06:15,267 --> 01:06:16,868
if they put this,

1419
01:06:16,868 --> 01:06:19,834
how did they get back
and forth into their building

1420
01:06:20,668 --> 01:06:23,501
because they tied up
tied it up once before?

1421
01:06:23,501 --> 01:06:26,468
If not this property,
it was right there.

1422
01:06:26,534 --> 01:06:30,133
And the traffic is pretty,
pretty.

1423
01:06:33,067 --> 01:06:35,568
It's pretty busy all the time

1424
01:06:35,568 --> 01:06:39,434
because that's supposed
to be a private road.

1425
01:06:39,434 --> 01:06:42,501
But it's if you notice

1426
01:06:42,601 --> 01:06:46,101
the traffic light at Peachtree
and the private road,

1427
01:06:46,668 --> 01:06:49,167
it only lasts,
I think about 17 or

1428
01:06:49,167 --> 01:06:52,166
18 seconds, and

1429
01:06:52,533 --> 01:06:55,533
it's.

1430
01:06:57,101 --> 01:06:58,734
I just want some questions

1431
01:06:58,734 --> 01:07:01,800
answered. And.

1432
01:07:04,167 --> 01:07:07,101
I want to know why
they could not do that

1433
01:07:07,101 --> 01:07:10,100
in the property that they have

1434
01:07:10,934 --> 01:07:13,934
and how this is going
to benefit.

1435
01:07:15,434 --> 01:07:18,433
The city and not hurt.

1436
01:07:20,667 --> 01:07:23,134
There's too many people

1437
01:07:23,134 --> 01:07:26,101
that have to come through this
private road.

1438
01:07:26,301 --> 01:07:29,367
The Saint Regis
is already worried about it.

1439
01:07:31,334 --> 01:07:34,300
I think it's fair to say that

1440
01:07:34,633 --> 01:07:37,633
so are others.

1441
01:07:39,134 --> 01:07:41,034
There's an apartment
building there.

1442
01:07:41,034 --> 01:07:44,033
I know they're worried, and.

1443
01:07:45,767 --> 01:07:47,633
It may sound pretty simple about

1444
01:07:47,633 --> 01:07:50,601
putting a swimming pool in.

1445
01:07:50,801 --> 01:07:54,667
How do they walk over to
how does how do people go to it?

1446
01:07:54,734 --> 01:07:57,734
Get in there? And

1447
01:07:58,434 --> 01:08:00,934
did they just cross the street?

1448
01:08:00,934 --> 01:08:02,867
Is there a way
to get across the street

1449
01:08:02,867 --> 01:08:06,001
without traffic coming in? And.

1450
01:08:09,401 --> 01:08:12,400
I have some real concerns
about it.

1451
01:08:19,034 --> 01:08:22,033
Do you have additional comments?

1452
01:08:29,468 --> 01:08:31,568
I'm hopeful
that they're planning on.

1453
01:08:31,568 --> 01:08:33,867
I think I saw it,
they're planning on expanding

1454
01:08:33,867 --> 01:08:36,800
and doing more
to their building.

1455
01:08:37,368 --> 01:08:39,800
Is there no way they couldn't
do this

1456
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,835
in connection
with the expansion,

1457
01:08:42,935 --> 01:08:46,601
as opposed to doing something
across the street

1458
01:08:46,935 --> 01:08:51,468
where it's a private road,
and is there a way to do it

1459
01:08:51,468 --> 01:08:55,901
without adding burdens to people
for that private road?

1460
01:08:55,901 --> 01:08:58,066
How are they going
to get across the street?

1461
01:08:59,134 --> 01:09:01,900
What's what is the

1462
01:09:01,900 --> 01:09:04,900
how is it going to be done?

1463
01:09:08,867 --> 01:09:11,834
I mean, I think.

1464
01:09:11,967 --> 01:09:13,800
I mean, I've dealt

1465
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,800
with restoration for.

1466
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:21,500
About 17 years and.

1467
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:24,735
I can understand

1468
01:09:24,735 --> 01:09:27,767
their desire
to upgrade or to expand,

1469
01:09:28,167 --> 01:09:31,166
but I think

1470
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:33,234
they could

1471
01:09:33,234 --> 01:09:36,901
they could probably do
the same thing with enough money

1472
01:09:36,901 --> 01:09:41,701
without going across the street
and putting putting in

1473
01:09:41,701 --> 01:09:44,668
what was up on the monitor
earlier.

1474
01:09:44,968 --> 01:09:48,001
I'm against that,
and I think there will be

1475
01:09:48,768 --> 01:09:52,401
everybody that I believe the
Saint Regis will be against it.

1476
01:09:52,401 --> 01:09:56,368
I believe 92 West Pace's
Ferry will be against it.

1477
01:09:56,368 --> 01:10:01,734
And I think it's it's
something that should not pass.

1478
01:10:07,334 --> 01:10:08,267
Do you have any questions?

1479
01:10:08,267 --> 01:10:09,867
I'm happy to answer them.

1480
01:10:09,867 --> 01:10:11,368
We don't ask questions
at this point.

1481
01:10:11,368 --> 01:10:13,868
This is your opportunity
to make your comments.

1482
01:10:13,868 --> 01:10:16,601
So if you have made
your comments, have a seat.

1483
01:10:16,601 --> 01:10:20,367
And if there's anybody else
in opposition, they can proceed.

1484
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:23,735
Thank you. Okay, thanks.

1485
01:10:23,735 --> 01:10:24,934
Is there anyone else
who would like

1486
01:10:24,934 --> 01:10:27,033
to speak in opposition
to this application?

1487
01:10:30,034 --> 01:10:31,201
Okay.

1488
01:10:31,201 --> 01:10:33,934
Is there anyone who
would like to speak in support

1489
01:10:33,934 --> 01:10:39,034
in the time remaining?

1490
01:10:39,167 --> 01:10:40,501
Sorry.
Good evening again.

1491
01:10:40,501 --> 01:10:41,701
We have John Morris here

1492
01:10:41,701 --> 01:10:45,600
from Jamestown Properties
to speak about the property.

1493
01:10:45,867 --> 01:10:47,734
He can address the concerns.

1494
01:10:47,734 --> 01:10:49,034
Thank you. Yeah.

1495
01:10:49,034 --> 01:10:49,467
Thank you.

1496
01:10:49,467 --> 01:10:51,768
John Moores,

1497
01:10:51,768 --> 01:10:55,968
3035 Peachtree Road, Lana,
Georgia, 30305.

1498
01:10:56,102 --> 01:10:58,368
I appreciate the comments
we've heard here tonight.

1499
01:10:58,368 --> 01:11:02,633
I believe there might be some
confusion on the actual site.

1500
01:11:04,035 --> 01:11:06,634
Believe the site
that is being referenced
is actually across the street

1501
01:11:06,701 --> 01:11:11,067
at 3030 Peachtree Road,
and that private drive

1502
01:11:11,134 --> 01:11:14,035
that was discussed
that goes behind Saint Regis,

1503
01:11:14,035 --> 01:11:17,568
and that development
is actually across the street

1504
01:11:17,568 --> 01:11:20,700
and not part of the development
that we are speaking to.

1505
01:11:21,367 --> 01:11:22,700
Thank you.

1506
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:24,967
Thank you.

1507
01:11:24,967 --> 01:11:26,401
Is there anyone else
you would like to speak

1508
01:11:26,401 --> 01:11:28,501
in support of the application?

1509
01:11:29,002 --> 01:11:30,034
Okay.
We will enter deliberation
questions

1510
01:11:30,034 --> 01:11:34,368
or comments from the board.

1511
01:11:34,968 --> 01:11:37,600
Okay.
Hearing none, we
will prepare to hear a motion.

1512
01:11:38,768 --> 01:11:41,734
Madam chair,
with the two case number,

1513
01:11:41,867 --> 01:11:44,568
you dash 2610.

1514
01:11:44,568 --> 01:11:47,567
I move that this board
accept the stats finding the

1515
01:11:48,501 --> 01:11:49,634
before we go with that.

1516
01:11:49,634 --> 01:11:54,634
So the staff recommendation
is actually ten years

1517
01:11:54,634 --> 01:11:58,767
in the staff report
they are amenable to 20 years.

1518
01:11:59,433 --> 01:12:02,434
That was the.

1519
01:12:02,634 --> 01:12:07,002
But they were I don't believe
staff could miss homes.

1520
01:12:07,002 --> 01:12:12,968
Could you respond to the query
about an unlimited duration

1521
01:12:12,968 --> 01:12:16,101
that was raised by the applicant
in the applicant's comments?

1522
01:12:16,201 --> 01:12:19,167
Staff is not supportive
of indefinite duration.

1523
01:12:19,267 --> 01:12:22,534
Staff is normally not supportive
of an indefinite duration

1524
01:12:22,534 --> 01:12:24,368
for a first time
special use permit.

1525
01:12:24,368 --> 01:12:27,668
We have been amenable,
however, to tying

1526
01:12:27,668 --> 01:12:32,101
the special use permit duration
or limitation that we

1527
01:12:32,735 --> 01:12:35,101
support to the lease terms,
and in this case,

1528
01:12:35,101 --> 01:12:38,201
lease term is 20 years
and we are amenable to attend

1529
01:12:38,434 --> 01:12:40,500
a 20 year duration. Okay.

1530
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,333
So any concerns about.

1531
01:12:45,401 --> 01:12:48,433
Changing the condition to
a 20 year limitation versus ten.

1532
01:12:48,533 --> 01:12:50,067
That makes sense.

1533
01:12:50,668 --> 01:12:53,967
Okay.
And any interest
in doing an indefinite term?

1534
01:12:54,434 --> 01:12:56,568
I don't think so.

1535
01:12:56,568 --> 01:12:59,567
No, I think we're ready
for a motion.

1536
01:13:00,701 --> 01:13:04,633
Madam chair,
with respect to case number Z.

1537
01:13:04,633 --> 01:13:05,634
Dash.

1538
01:13:05,634 --> 01:13:09,333
I'm sorry, case number you 2610.

1539
01:13:09,667 --> 01:13:10,800
I moved to this board.

1540
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,868
Acceptance five finding a fact.

1541
01:13:12,868 --> 01:13:15,501
Second, the motion been made
and properly seconded.

1542
01:13:15,501 --> 01:13:17,201
All in favor,
say aye. Opposed? Nay.

1543
01:13:17,201 --> 01:13:19,267
All right, mission passes.

1544
01:13:19,267 --> 01:13:23,867
Madam chair, with respect
to case number, you dash 2610.

1545
01:13:24,267 --> 01:13:27,867
I move that this board sent
forth a recommendation of a

1546
01:13:28,234 --> 01:13:31,368
of approval with the change

1547
01:13:31,368 --> 01:13:34,533
to the condition to that.

1548
01:13:35,768 --> 01:13:40,166
I'm sorry.
Condition number one
that that permit be valid for

1549
01:13:40,734 --> 01:13:42,434
condition of 20 years

1550
01:13:42,434 --> 01:13:45,400
to match the length term
of the term of the lease.

1551
01:13:46,167 --> 01:13:49,967
And also, number two,
stay as noted on the staff

1552
01:13:49,967 --> 01:13:54,101
report dated August 6th, 2026.

1553
01:13:54,167 --> 01:13:55,900
And that would be 20 years
from the date of

1554
01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:57,633
adoption by the City Council.

1555
01:14:01,234 --> 01:14:02,568
To clarify on point

1556
01:14:02,568 --> 01:14:04,334
one of the staff condition

1557
01:14:04,334 --> 01:14:08,334
to allow for the permit
to be valid for 20 years, valid

1558
01:14:08,334 --> 01:14:11,300
from the date of adoption
of the city.

1559
01:14:12,101 --> 01:14:14,867
Second motion has been made
properly seconded.

1560
01:14:14,967 --> 01:14:16,867
All the favor.
Say aye. Opposed. Nay.

1561
01:14:16,867 --> 01:14:18,633
Motion passes.

1562
01:14:18,633 --> 01:14:20,801
Okay. Next.

1563
01:14:20,801 --> 01:14:22,767
Are you going to read
the two cases together?

1564
01:14:22,767 --> 01:14:24,835
Then the next few cases

1565
01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:27,267
and then we'll consider them
individually.

1566
01:14:27,267 --> 01:14:29,634
I was just about to say that

1567
01:14:29,634 --> 01:14:32,134
Z 20 607 and ordinance
by Zoning Committee

1568
01:14:32,134 --> 01:14:33,701
to rezone from heavy industrial

1569
01:14:33,701 --> 01:14:35,901
Upper West Side overlay
to mix of the general commercial

1570
01:14:35,901 --> 01:14:38,934
Upper West side overlay
for property located at 1116

1571
01:14:39,034 --> 01:14:42,001
1166 1130 1184

1572
01:14:42,468 --> 01:14:44,600
Logan Circle, 1196

1573
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,267
1250, 1264, 1274, 1284,

1574
01:14:48,334 --> 01:14:52,334
1294, 1314 1330 and 1346

1575
01:14:52,334 --> 01:14:55,534
Logan Circle and 13 2535
Chattahoochee Avenue.

1576
01:14:55,601 --> 01:14:57,134
1389 Chattahoochee Avenue.

1577
01:14:57,134 --> 01:15:01,500
1355 1379 1391 in 1395,
Chattahoochee ABA North-West

1578
01:15:02,701 --> 01:15:04,734
front in
approximately 1033ft on
the east side of Chattahoochee

1579
01:15:04,734 --> 01:15:06,134
Avenue, beginning in an iron pan

1580
01:15:06,134 --> 01:15:08,035
found at the intersection
of the easterly right

1581
01:15:08,035 --> 01:15:10,501
of way of Chattahoochee Avenue
and the southerly right of way

1582
01:15:10,501 --> 01:15:12,900
of of the southerly portion
of Logan Circle.

1583
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:15,334
Deb ferries area 23.35 acres.

1584
01:15:15,334 --> 01:15:19,234
Land 102 and one 9317
Fulton County, Georgia owners

1585
01:15:19,234 --> 01:15:23,968
say Logan Chat LLC
see The Enterprises LLC, six

1586
01:15:24,035 --> 01:15:28,900
two LLC and Click Logan LLC
applicant SC Logan Chat, LLC

1587
01:15:28,967 --> 01:15:32,468
input Council District
nine Z 20 608 in order

1588
01:15:33,035 --> 01:15:35,401
Committee to rezone from Heavy
Industrial Upper West Side

1589
01:15:35,401 --> 01:15:38,501
Overlay to mixed commercial
Upper West Side overlay for

1590
01:15:38,501 --> 01:15:42,834
property located at 1405 1417

1591
01:15:44,101 --> 01:15:47,534
Chattahoochee
Avenue in 1119 Logan Circle.

1592
01:15:47,534 --> 01:15:51,334
1149 1159 Logan Circle,
1177 1209,

1593
01:15:51,401 --> 01:15:56,633
1223, 1225, 1301, 1305 1311.

1594
01:15:59,234 --> 01:16:02,601
In 1369, Logan Circle northwest

1595
01:16:02,601 --> 01:16:04,501
fronted approximately
450ft on the east side
of Chattahoochee

1596
01:16:04,501 --> 01:16:06,401
Avenue northwest,
beginning in an iron pin

1597
01:16:06,401 --> 01:16:08,234
found at the intersection
of the right of way

1598
01:16:08,234 --> 01:16:10,035
of the northerly portion
of Logan Circle,

1599
01:16:10,035 --> 01:16:12,267
with the easterly right of way
of Chattahoochee Avenue.

1600
01:16:12,267 --> 01:16:14,634
Deb varies area of 13.36 acres.

1601
01:16:14,634 --> 01:16:18,401
Limits 192 and one 9317
Fulton County, Georgia owner

1602
01:16:18,401 --> 01:16:21,600
and applicant CI Logan Chat
LLC in Council

1603
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,600
District nine.

1604
01:16:25,001 --> 01:16:28,001
1325 1333.

1605
01:16:29,568 --> 01:16:31,835
Please go ahead and proceed.

1606
01:16:31,835 --> 01:16:33,234
Good evening again,
members of the board.

1607
01:16:33,234 --> 01:16:34,401
My name is Jessica Hill.

1608
01:16:34,401 --> 01:16:37,034
My business address is 600
Peachtree Street.

1609
01:16:37,668 --> 01:16:40,401
And again,
I represent Seelig Enterprises,
who is both the applicant

1610
01:16:40,401 --> 01:16:42,167
and the property owner.

1611
01:16:42,167 --> 01:16:44,067
And in this case,
they have owned this property

1612
01:16:44,067 --> 01:16:45,434
for about 75 years.

1613
01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:48,401
So a little bit longer vintage
on this property

1614
01:16:48,735 --> 01:16:51,668
also still joined tonight
by representatives from Seelig,

1615
01:16:51,668 --> 01:16:54,633
the architecture group,
as well as our civil engineer.

1616
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:55,667
And I've got a

1617
01:16:57,501 --> 01:17:00,101
a nice aerial board
to orient you on where we are.

1618
01:17:00,101 --> 01:17:01,368
So for those that are familiar

1619
01:17:01,368 --> 01:17:03,568
with the existing works
development,

1620
01:17:03,568 --> 01:17:05,434
this is Chattahoochee on this
aerial here.

1621
01:17:05,434 --> 01:17:08,834
You've got the railroad
Underwood Hills on plan right.

1622
01:17:09,034 --> 01:17:11,534
This is the existing works
development here.

1623
01:17:11,534 --> 01:17:13,201
What we're talking about in
these two

1624
01:17:13,201 --> 01:17:15,868
applications
is a little bit over 36 acres.

1625
01:17:15,868 --> 01:17:19,167
That's immediately to the
existing works development.

1626
01:17:19,167 --> 01:17:23,668
So it's these buildings
that front along Chattahoochee.

1627
01:17:24,102 --> 01:17:26,967
And the reason
that you have two applications
before you instead of one

1628
01:17:27,134 --> 01:17:30,668
is because the property
loops around like this

1629
01:17:30,768 --> 01:17:33,634
and has the public
right of way of Logan Circle
that makes a you.

1630
01:17:33,634 --> 01:17:35,701
And because this inner portion
isn't

1631
01:17:35,701 --> 01:17:39,134
contiguous to the outer portion,
we had to do two applications.

1632
01:17:39,668 --> 01:17:42,900
All of the property is zoned
I too heavy industrial has been

1633
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:43,835
for quite some time.

1634
01:17:43,835 --> 01:17:46,468
It's all on the Upper West Side
overlay.

1635
01:17:46,468 --> 01:17:49,434
We are asking to go to MRC three

1636
01:17:49,601 --> 01:17:52,568
and there are some conditions
associated with that.

1637
01:17:52,868 --> 01:17:54,468
I know in briefing
there was a question

1638
01:17:54,468 --> 01:17:58,267
about or a comment about
why we're choosing MRC three,

1639
01:17:58,534 --> 01:18:01,934
and the reason is because
of the way that the density

1640
01:18:02,401 --> 01:18:03,633
works out.
All of these parcels
are separate right

1641
01:18:03,633 --> 01:18:05,534
now, and candidly, probably

1642
01:18:05,534 --> 01:18:07,667
some of them will continue
to be separate in the future.

1643
01:18:07,667 --> 01:18:08,634
And so when you start,

1644
01:18:08,634 --> 01:18:11,601
when you look at the density
on the overall,

1645
01:18:11,668 --> 01:18:14,601
it's significantly below
MRC three.

1646
01:18:14,601 --> 01:18:16,701
But when you start
looking at individual parcels,

1647
01:18:16,701 --> 01:18:20,001
we start creeping up into into
densities that are above that.

1648
01:18:20,067 --> 01:18:22,334
And I'm happy
to answer any questions on that

1649
01:18:22,334 --> 01:18:24,868
from a development scope
perspective.

1650
01:18:24,868 --> 01:18:27,968
On the outer loop area,
which is the first application

1651
01:18:27,968 --> 01:18:33,034
Z 2607 that is going to be all
nonresidential development.

1652
01:18:33,101 --> 01:18:34,868
It's about 900,000ft.

1653
01:18:34,868 --> 01:18:40,102
That's either existing
proposed for adaptive reuse.

1654
01:18:40,202 --> 01:18:44,201
There's a
variety of kind of office
flex event parking.

1655
01:18:44,201 --> 01:18:45,968
There's actually an existing
parking structure

1656
01:18:45,968 --> 01:18:49,801
located here today that will
remain a new office building.

1657
01:18:49,801 --> 01:18:52,500
That's what's proposed along
the outer loop.

1658
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:53,634
And the impetus for

1659
01:18:53,634 --> 01:18:56,834
the zoning was really the inner
loop portion where

1660
01:18:56,900 --> 01:18:58,601
similar to the works phase one,

1661
01:18:58,601 --> 01:19:01,534
they want to incorporate
a multi-family development.

1662
01:19:01,534 --> 01:19:03,835
And so if you're looking
at this plan

1663
01:19:03,835 --> 01:19:06,035
close to the Chattahoochee
frontage, this building

1664
01:19:06,035 --> 01:19:08,835
you see in yellow as a proposed
multifamily building,

1665
01:19:08,835 --> 01:19:12,568
and the thought is to provide
for one multifamily building

1666
01:19:12,568 --> 01:19:14,668
with adaptive reuse
in the middle

1667
01:19:14,668 --> 01:19:16,201
and then the potential
to have a second

1668
01:19:16,201 --> 01:19:18,234
multifamily
building down the road

1669
01:19:18,234 --> 01:19:22,234
if if market conditions
and demand supports it.

1670
01:19:22,634 --> 01:19:26,067
And overall,
that's it's about 1,000,000.5ft

1671
01:19:26,201 --> 01:19:28,434
total of development in here.

1672
01:19:28,434 --> 01:19:32,533
Overall, the two applications
together are 2.3 5,000,000ft

1673
01:19:32,734 --> 01:19:33,734
in total development.

1674
01:19:33,734 --> 01:19:35,834
And again, that's over 36 acres.

1675
01:19:36,934 --> 01:19:38,534
We worked with Underwood

1676
01:19:38,534 --> 01:19:41,533
Hills and MPD
both recommended approval.

1677
01:19:41,533 --> 01:19:42,934
They did recommend

1678
01:19:42,934 --> 01:19:45,900
more conditions
that are in your staff report.

1679
01:19:45,967 --> 01:19:48,201
Specifically,
they had a condition

1680
01:19:48,201 --> 01:19:50,034
asking for support for a

1681
01:19:50,034 --> 01:19:52,868
or to not oppose
a proposed shuttle

1682
01:19:52,868 --> 01:19:55,701
to the extent that they wanted
to propose that.

1683
01:19:55,968 --> 01:19:58,668
And I think staff
was not comfortable with that
being in the conditions.

1684
01:19:58,801 --> 01:20:01,101
There was a condition
about providing Underwood

1685
01:20:01,101 --> 01:20:03,801
Hills a copy of our SAP
application.

1686
01:20:03,801 --> 01:20:05,668
This is in the Upper West Side
overlay.

1687
01:20:05,668 --> 01:20:07,835
So it's they're going
to get a copy anyway.

1688
01:20:07,835 --> 01:20:10,834
But again, I think that staff
found that to be duplicative.

1689
01:20:11,134 --> 01:20:12,568
And then the only
other condition

1690
01:20:12,568 --> 01:20:16,067
that is not included
in the staffs recommendation,

1691
01:20:16,368 --> 01:20:20,533
the neighborhood included a site
plan condition as opposed to

1692
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,967
the density condition.

1693
01:20:21,967 --> 01:20:23,701
So the condition.

1694
01:20:23,701 --> 01:20:27,301
Let's see what condition ended
up being condition number four,

1695
01:20:27,501 --> 01:20:29,401
which talks about the aggregate
floor

1696
01:20:29,401 --> 01:20:30,867
area ratio of the properties,

1697
01:20:30,867 --> 01:20:32,568
shall not exceed
a certain amount.

1698
01:20:32,568 --> 01:20:34,835
Rather than having a site plan
condition.

1699
01:20:34,835 --> 01:20:38,067
And Miss Holmes can speak
to this, her concern was having

1700
01:20:38,167 --> 01:20:41,668
to administer
800 site plan amendments,

1701
01:20:42,002 --> 01:20:44,967
minor site plan amendments
over the course of the time,

1702
01:20:45,201 --> 01:20:47,101
and so the proposal instead

1703
01:20:47,101 --> 01:20:48,301
was instead of having a site

1704
01:20:48,301 --> 01:20:52,267
plan condition, why don't
we have a density condition?

1705
01:20:52,267 --> 01:20:53,735
Because really
a lot of the concerns

1706
01:20:53,735 --> 01:20:56,501
and you can see this reflected
in the conditions.

1707
01:20:56,701 --> 01:21:00,568
A lot of the concerns
from the community were we
don't want to be the next 14th

1708
01:21:00,568 --> 01:21:03,634
and how mill we don't want
all these high rise buildings.

1709
01:21:03,634 --> 01:21:04,967
That's
why you see the height limit.

1710
01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:07,801
That's
why you see the limitation.

1711
01:21:07,801 --> 01:21:10,900
So I think the updated condition
will be better

1712
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:12,002
for staff to administer,

1713
01:21:12,002 --> 01:21:14,334
and I think meets the spirit
of what was requested.

1714
01:21:14,334 --> 01:21:17,234
But, you know, in
full disclosure, they are that

1715
01:21:17,234 --> 01:21:18,868
those are the differences.

1716
01:21:18,868 --> 01:21:21,468
We would ask that
you support this application.

1717
01:21:21,468 --> 01:21:24,301
Both applications obviously
vote on them separately.

1718
01:21:24,301 --> 01:21:27,334
Another thing I should mention,
for those that are familiar

1719
01:21:27,568 --> 01:21:29,668
with this area,
the Woodall
Trail comes through here

1720
01:21:29,668 --> 01:21:31,601
and actually goes
through the site and connects up

1721
01:21:31,601 --> 01:21:33,001
through the Silver
Comet connector.

1722
01:21:33,001 --> 01:21:35,967
So it really makes this site
a great location

1723
01:21:36,034 --> 01:21:40,166
for a more mixed use,
less industrial scope.

1724
01:21:40,834 --> 01:21:42,334
And then just one other thing.

1725
01:21:42,334 --> 01:21:45,468
It was mentioned in the briefing
what the uses are today.

1726
01:21:46,068 --> 01:21:49,067
The uses that are there
today are uses like showrooms,

1727
01:21:49,067 --> 01:21:49,834
offices.

1728
01:21:49,834 --> 01:21:51,067
There's an event area,

1729
01:21:51,067 --> 01:21:54,034
there's some storage
for furniture places,

1730
01:21:54,234 --> 01:21:57,668
but it's not a manufacturing
industrial scope of use

1731
01:21:57,668 --> 01:22:00,301
that's there today.
Some of its vacant.

1732
01:22:00,301 --> 01:22:02,401
So with that I'll reserve
any time for rebuttal.

1733
01:22:02,401 --> 01:22:04,868
Thank you, thank you.

1734
01:22:04,868 --> 01:22:06,334
Is there anyone else
who would like to speak

1735
01:22:06,334 --> 01:22:08,068
in support at this time?

1736
01:22:08,068 --> 01:22:11,066
And is there anyone who would
like to speak in opposition?

1737
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,201
Okay.
And does the applicant

1738
01:22:15,201 --> 01:22:18,200
have any additional comments
to make at this time?

1739
01:22:19,067 --> 01:22:20,734
So we will enter deliberation?

1740
01:22:20,734 --> 01:22:22,634
I've got a question.

1741
01:22:22,634 --> 01:22:25,533
I think thinking about this
further,

1742
01:22:25,533 --> 01:22:28,500
the aggregate

1743
01:22:28,767 --> 01:22:31,334
far across the properties.

1744
01:22:31,334 --> 01:22:36,700
So the zoning would be across
individual properties.

1745
01:22:37,301 --> 01:22:40,468
But to me
it seems like the aggregate far

1746
01:22:41,035 --> 01:22:44,067
is really conditioned
on having a common owner,

1747
01:22:44,067 --> 01:22:47,200
because if ownership,

1748
01:22:48,634 --> 01:22:51,401
you know,
if parcels were sold off,

1749
01:22:51,401 --> 01:22:55,501
how do you enforce an aggregate
far across the properties

1750
01:22:55,501 --> 01:22:58,900
when they're not potentially
under the same owner

1751
01:22:59,634 --> 01:23:02,401
via unified Development Plan,
which I'm sure

1752
01:23:02,401 --> 01:23:03,534
he'll will be applying for

1753
01:23:03,534 --> 01:23:06,900
when she goes to the SAP
process, are okay.

1754
01:23:06,967 --> 01:23:09,934
Thank you.
That makes sense. Okay.

1755
01:23:10,101 --> 01:23:14,134
Other other questions
or comments?

1756
01:23:14,534 --> 01:23:16,133
Okay.
I'm prepared
to hear a motion then.

1757
01:23:17,201 --> 01:23:18,767
Madam chair, with respect to

1758
01:23:18,767 --> 01:23:22,401
case number Z 20 607,

1759
01:23:22,568 --> 01:23:25,900
I move that this board
acceptance finding a fact.

1760
01:23:26,634 --> 01:23:29,201
Second motions
been made properly seconded.

1761
01:23:29,201 --> 01:23:31,667
All in favor, say aye. Opposed.

1762
01:23:31,667 --> 01:23:33,034
Motion passes.

1763
01:23:33,034 --> 01:23:35,267
Madam chair,
with respect to case number

1764
01:23:35,267 --> 01:23:39,801
Z 20 607, I move that
this board send forth

1765
01:23:39,801 --> 01:23:42,867
a recommendation of approval
with conditions

1766
01:23:42,867 --> 01:23:45,800
as found on page

1767
01:23:46,301 --> 01:23:48,301
five of the staff report

1768
01:23:48,301 --> 01:23:51,234
dated August 6th, 2026.

1769
01:23:51,334 --> 01:23:53,601
Second motions been made
and properly second day.

1770
01:23:53,601 --> 01:23:54,767
Of all in favor,
say aye. Opposed.

1771
01:23:54,767 --> 01:23:57,735
Nay, a motion passes,

1772
01:23:58,002 --> 01:24:02,334
madam chair, with respect
to case number Z 20 608,

1773
01:24:02,434 --> 01:24:05,300
I move that its borders
after finding a fact.

1774
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:07,067
Second

1775
01:24:07,067 --> 01:24:08,668
mesh has been made
and probably seconded.

1776
01:24:08,668 --> 01:24:10,601
All in favor,
say aye. Opposed? Nay.

1777
01:24:10,601 --> 01:24:14,134
A motion passes, Madam Chair,
with the two case

1778
01:24:14,134 --> 01:24:17,201
number Z 20 608.

1779
01:24:17,334 --> 01:24:19,801
I move that this board center
for the recommendation

1780
01:24:19,801 --> 01:24:23,867
of approval with the conditions
found on page five of the staff

1781
01:24:23,867 --> 01:24:27,368
report dated August 6th, 2026.

1782
01:24:27,701 --> 01:24:30,701
Second motions
been made and properly seconded.

1783
01:24:30,701 --> 01:24:32,001
All in favor
say aye and opposed.

1784
01:24:32,001 --> 01:24:34,667
Nay, a motion passes.

1785
01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:42,166
And can I get a motion?

1786
01:24:43,267 --> 01:24:45,134
Motion to adjourn.

1787
01:24:45,134 --> 01:24:57,800
Thank you. And.