[0:13] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [0:15] This meeting will now come to order at this time. [0:17] May I ask you to please silence [0:19] or turn off your cell phones and other electronic devices? [0:22] This is a regular meeting of designing Review [0:24] board of the City of Atlanta. My name is Sherry McCoy. [0:26] Chair of the board for tonight's meeting. [0:28] This is a nine member board appointed by the mayor [0:31] and confirmed by the City council. [0:33] This board hears applications [0:34] for rezoning and special use permits. [0:38] At this time, I would like to introduce you to the members of the board. [0:40] To my immediate right is Mr. [0:42] Walter Slayton, vice chair of the Zoning Review Board. [0:44] Other members of the Zoning Review [0:47] Board present this evening are Miss Karla Penniman, Miss Lauren Welch, Mr. [0:50] Jim Cheeks, and Mr. Kenny Hill. [0:52] Members of the staff present [0:54] tonight are Miss Quita Holmes and Miss Angela Black. [0:59] The applications will be heard in [1:01] the order listed on the printed agenda. [1:03] I would like to acquaint you [1:04] with some of the rules and procedures [1:05] for the conduct of this meeting, [1:06] which have been adopted by this board. [1:08] The applicants will be allowed [1:09] a total of ten minutes to present their cases. [1:12] Since the burden of proof is upon [1:13] the applicants to convince support, [1:15] the application should be approved, [1:17] they may choose to reserve some of that time [1:18] for rebuttal following independence presentation. [1:21] The opposition likewise will be permitted [1:24] a total of ten minutes to present their opposition. [1:26] It will behoove you to organize yourselves [1:28] so that those who wish to speak may do so [1:30] in the ten minutes, provided the opposition is not permitted. [1:33] Rebuttal time. [1:34] Miss Karla Penniman will be keeping [1:36] track of the time, and will inform me [1:38] periodically of the time remaining for your presentation. [1:41] If you wish to speak, [1:43] if you wish to address the board tonight, please [1:44] sign in in the sign in sheet at the podium. [1:47] Please lean into the microphone to be heard. Before [1:49] making your remarks, please state your name and address. [1:53] This meeting is being recorded. [1:54] Therefore, it is very important [1:55] that you speak directly into the microphone. [1:57] The board will take two votes on each application. [1:59] The first vote is on the findings of fact [2:01] as presented by the staff. [2:03] The second vote is for approval or denial of the application. [2:07] It is the second vote that determines the board's recommendation [2:08] to the City Council at the time of this hearing. [2:11] Each application has been regularly [2:12] filed with the Office of Zoning and Development, [2:14] which prepares the proposed ordinance for each application. [2:17] The proposed ordinance has had its first [2:20] reading by the City Council, and has been referred [2:22] to this board for a public hearing. [2:24] Next is Zoning Committee of the City Council [2:26] votes on the proposed ordinance. [2:28] Then the full council votes [2:29] to adopt or deny the proposed ordinance. [2:31] Finally, the mayor has eight days [2:33] to approve or veto the ordinance. [2:35] The Office of Zoning and Development [2:36] has reviewed each application in conjunction [2:38] with various affected agencies and departments, [2:40] as well as with respect to the adopted [2:42] Comprehensive Development Plan as required by the City Charter. [2:45] The staff recommendations, findings of fact [2:47] and conclusions are here before us in written form. [2:50] Further, each application has been regularly posted, [2:53] regularly advertised and notices [2:55] mailed as required by the zoning ordinance. [2:57] Comments from the Department of Public Works, [2:59] the Atlantic School Board and the County Health Department [3:01] have been requested. [3:02] The board must consider each application [3:04] legally valid and is required [3:06] to make a recommendation on each application. [3:08] The rules of the Council permit [3:10] no demonstrations of any kind within the Council chambers. [3:15] Please refrain from any applause or dialog during or after presentations. [3:18] All remarks should be addressed to the board. [3:20] Please show the same respect to the person [3:21] speaking that you would expect to receive yourself. [3:24] The applications heard tonight will be considered [3:26] by the Zoning Committee on August 24th, 2026, [3:30] and by the Atlantic City Council on September 8th, 2026. [3:33] I will now entertain a motion to adopt tonight's agenda. [3:37] Madam chair, I move that this board adopts tonight's [3:40] agenda, with the exception [3:42] that we move the following cases to the front of the agenda [3:45] for consideration of a possible deferral filing or continuance. [3:50] Z Dash 26, 3024 [3:52] Cleveland Avenue Southeast to be filed [3:55] Z 2636 1834 Braeburn Circle [4:00] southeast for a 60 day deferral until October 2026. [4:05] Z Dash 2637 [4:08] 686 Highland Avenue Southeast to be filed. [4:12] Z Dash 2645 [4:15] 2341 Glenn Drive, southeast to be filed. [4:21] Is there a second? [4:24] Second. [4:25] It's been moved and properly seconded [4:27] that we accept tonight's agenda, with the exception of the applications [4:29] that will be moved to the front of the agenda [4:30] for consideration for possible deferral, continuance of filing. [4:34] Are there any questions or comments from the board? [4:37] Okay. Hearing none. [4:39] All in favor of adopting [4:40] tonight's agenda, please I and opposed. [4:42] Nay, a motion passes. [4:44] Oh, abstain. [4:46] Motion passes. [4:48] Acknowledging one abstention. [4:50] Let me remind you again to please [4:53] ensure that your phones and other electronic devices [4:56] have been turned off. Or silence to. [4:58] Miss Holmes, would you please read the cases [5:00] for possible deferral and filing [5:03] Z 2630 an ordinance by Councilmember [5:06] Antonio Lewis to waive part three Land Development Code. [5:08] Part 16 zoning. [5:09] Chapter 11 of the City [5:10] of Atlanta Code of Ordinances [5:13] so as to allow an automobile service station service station at 24 Cleveland [5:16] Avenue Southeast within 1500 feet of an existing automobile [5:18] service station, and for other purposes in [5:20] Council District 12, Z 2636, and ordinance by the Committee [5:24] to rezone from multifamily residential conditional [5:26] to multi-family residential conditional [5:28] for a major site plan amendment and a change of conditions [5:30] for property located at 1834 Braeburn Circle, southeast [5:33] fronting 50ft on the north side of Braves Circle, [5:36] beginning at a point on the north side of the 50ft right of way known as Braving [5:38] Circle in the southwest corner of lot 22, [5:40] said point being 750ft east from the intersection [5:43] of Braeburn Circle and Clifton Road. [5:45] Depth varies. Area 6.906 acres. [5:47] Land lot one 7415 Fisher, DeKalb County, Georgia. [5:50] Owner Welborn development LLC applicant Harold Buckley Jr, MP, [5:54] Council District five 2637. [5:57] Ordinance Committee to rezone from two family [5:58] Residential Beltline overlay to commercial service issues. [6:01] Felt like overlay for property located at 686 Highland Avenue [6:04] Northeast, fronting 94ft on the north [6:05] side of Highland Avenue, commencing at an [6:07] at the intersection of the north [6:09] right of way of Highland Avenue and the easterly [6:10] right of way of Sampson Street, and leave the said [6:13] easterly right of way of Samsung [6:14] Street, and run along the said northerly [6:15] right of way of Highland Avenue to a point [6:17] set point also been the point of beginning [6:19] approximately 150ft area 0.3 acres. [6:22] In 1914, Bishop Fulton County, Georgia owner Chris [6:25] Carter, applicant. [6:26] Chris Jackson, MPU, Council, District two. [6:29] Thank you, Miss Holmes. [6:30] Is there anyone present in opposition? [6:32] Is there one more? [6:34] Oh, sorry. 2645 and my Councilmember Bakhtiari is on property [6:37] located at 2341 Drive Southeast Atlanta, Georgia, [6:40] through 316 of the hour for Single family [6:42] residential zoning district for the purposes of [6:45] Council District five. [6:46] Thank you. [6:48] Is there anyone present in [6:49] opposition to any of the cases being considered [6:51] for deferral or filing? [6:55] Okay. Hearing none, I will entertain motions. [7:00] Madam chair, with respect [7:02] to case number 2630, I move to this board, defer [7:06] taking action on this case to be filed. [7:10] Second motions been made and probably seconded. [7:13] All in favor say aye. [7:14] Opposed? Nay, I motion passes. [7:18] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z 2636, [7:22] I move that this board defer taking action on this case [7:26] till a 60 day deferral until October 2026. [7:30] Second motions been made. Properly seconded. [7:33] All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Nay. [7:35] Abstain. [7:41] Madam chair, with the two case number Z 2637, I move this board. [7:46] Defer to action to be filed, [7:49] second motions been made and properly seconded. [7:51] All in favor, say aye and opposed. [7:53] May I mention passes? [7:56] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z 2645, I move [8:00] that this board director action for this case to be filed. [8:04] Second, she's been made and properly seconded. [8:06] All in favor say aye and opposed. [8:08] Nay, a motion passes. [8:10] May we have the next application, please? [8:12] Miss Z 2638 Ordinance by Zoning Committee to rezone [8:16] from planned development, mixed use Beltline overlay and community [8:18] business district overlay to mix residential [8:20] commercial building overlay for prophecy located at 774784, [8:24] also known as 782 Ponce Leon Place seven 9794, [8:29] also known as 798, possibly on Avenue, [8:31] possibly on Avenue, and 731 [8:34] Adventure Avenue, also known as 732 Bonaventure Avenue, [8:37] fronting 328ft on the north side of Ponce [8:39] Leon Avenue, beginning at a nail found at the intersection [8:42] formed by the northerly right of way of Ponce [8:44] Leon Avenue [8:46] and the westerly right of way of Bonaventure Avenue, and proceeding thence [8:47] along the north right of Way of Ponce Leon Avenue. [8:50] Death varies. Area 1.75788 acres. Land lot 1714. [8:53] District and County, Georgia. [8:55] Owners SDI Ponce LLC, SC 73 LLC and 175 LLC. [9:00] Applicant S.I. [9:01] Ponce LLC in Council District two. [9:07] Thank you miss. [9:08] Please state your name and address and proceed. [9:12] Members of the board just. [9:16] Might sound like it. [9:17] Try it again. Hello. [9:19] There we go. Just not close enough. [9:20] There we go. [9:21] Good evening, members of the board. [9:22] My name is Jessica Hill. [9:25] My business address is 600 Peachtree Street, and I represent the applicant [9:27] and property owner, Seelig Enterprises. [9:30] I'm joined tonight by various members of the project team, [9:33] including the property ownership, [9:35] our architect and our civil engineer, and also [9:38] our traffic engineer who's going to speak to you as well. [9:41] Seelig has owned the majority of this property [9:42] for over 60 years. [9:44] It's about 1.75 acres. [9:46] Located at the corner of Bonaventure [9:49] has frontage on Bonaventure, [9:50] Maiden Lane and Ponce de Leon Avenue and has historically [9:54] been used for a variety of different commercial uses. [9:57] There is one residential use on the property. [9:59] Today. [10:00] It is zones, predominantly C-1. [10:03] At the far western most portion of the property is one lot [10:07] that was zoned PDM a few years ago [10:10] as part of a development that Portman Holdings was proposing. [10:13] So that's why the zoning request that's before you is to go [10:16] from C-1 and PDM to MRC [10:20] three with several conditions. [10:23] We are proposing a development that will include up to 375 [10:27] multifamily units. [10:28] Those will be rental [10:30] with about 10,000ft of sidewalk level commercial [10:33] and then obviously a parking str [10:41] Just looking at a color [10:43] rendered version of the ground floor plan, [10:44] you've got Pontes on the bottom here, [10:46] Bonaventure Avenue on your right and Maiden Lane on the north. [10:51] This is the southern edge of the Virginia [10:53] Highland neighborhood, [10:54] and we spent quite a bit of time working with Virginia [10:57] Highland, with their planning committee, [10:58] as well as with the neighborhood at large, to address concerns [11:01] that were raised predominantly around traffic. [11:04] What you see here in orange is the retail and amenity area. [11:07] At the bottom level, we have two curb cuts proposed, [11:11] one on Ponce de Leon Avenue, one on Maiden Lane. [11:15] The project originally [11:16] had a curb cut proposed on Bonaventure instead, [11:19] and the resounding thing that we heard [11:20] from the neighborhood was, please don't do that to us. [11:24] Bonaventure at most times is backed up [11:26] due to the stock condition there. [11:27] So the site plan that you see proposes curb [11:31] cuts on these two locations. [11:39] Show rendering of the project. [11:41] Here's a bird's eye rendering of the project. [11:43] You've got Ponce de Leon here. [11:45] This is Bonaventure on the corner. [11:46] You can see the development here. [11:48] And then we've ghosted in the [11:50] Portman development, which is approved next door [11:52] at the same height and massing as the proposal. [11:58] You will find a variety of conditions in your packet. [12:01] Most of them were originally negotiated for the adjacent development. [12:05] What we did with the Virginia Highlands Group was work through [12:08] which ones applied to this site, [12:10] and then presented them to the staff. [12:13] The only condition that we have a concern with is staff condition number four, [12:19] which requires [12:21] a write in right out on Ponce if there is a variation. [12:24] Granted, and I'm going to let [12:25] our traffic engineer [12:26] speak to the traffic study [12:27] that was prepared for this project [12:30] and tell you a little bit more about why we would like that condition removed. [12:32] Thank you. [12:38] Hello, I'm Anna Eisenman. [12:40] I join you to give my address. [12:43] 955 Juniper Street, unit 2132. [12:45] Atlanta, Georgia I'm a traffic engineer with Kinley Horn. [12:49] I prepared a traffic impact study [12:51] in response to some neighborhood [12:52] concerns and questions about traffic [12:54] and the impact of the broader neighborhood. [12:56] We know that on a state route like Ponce de Leon Avenue, [12:59] the most likely permitted condition [13:01] will be a right and right out, because that is God's [13:03] preferred intersection alternative on a state route. [13:07] However, in this Pacific location, we do have a two way [13:10] left turn lane that allows left [13:13] turn access today to the five driveways that we would be reducing to one. [13:16] I talked to Megan Wilson at gDot [13:20] and how to preliminary conversation with her, to ask [13:23] if it would be possible to do a left [13:25] turn at this location to respond to citizen concerns, neighbor [13:29] concerns about extra circulation in the neighborhood [13:33] if they wouldn't be able to directly access [13:34] from the primary arterial state route. [13:37] And she said it's a possibility they have to see the permit [13:41] before they can respond. [13:43] For Dot, [13:44] I think queuing was another concern along that to a left [13:49] turn lane, based on the traffic volumes that we collected this year [13:52] and projected future volumes for the development, we project [13:56] one car or fewer queued to make that left [13:59] onto Bonaventure or into the site driveway. [14:04] A car takes up about 25ft. [14:06] When we consider queuing design. [14:07] We have 300ft along that frontage. [14:10] There should not be any issues with queuing. [14:19] And we're happy to answer any questions. [14:20] We'll reserve any time for rebuttal, [14:21] although I'm not sure if there's anybody here for us. [14:23] Thank you. Okay. Thank you. [14:27] Is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition [14:29] to this application? [14:33] Okay. Hearing none, we back to the applicant. [14:35] Is there any other additional comments [14:36] you would like to make? [14:39] The only other point of clarification, and again [14:42] this is with respect to the traffic study, [14:43] but the traffic study that you have [14:45] was prepared in May [14:46] at the request of the Virginia Highland neighborhood. [14:50] Again, when we met with the broader [14:52] neighborhood back in February, [14:53] we were asked to prepare a traffic study to address [14:56] what the impact would be on Virginia Highlands specifically. [15:00] And Miss Eisenman study was intended to identify [15:05] what kind of the worst case scenario would be [15:07] if there was only a right in right out, [15:09] which is why that was what was studied. [15:12] Obviously, if there is a left in allowed, [15:14] which is what we would ask for, [15:16] then that could improve the traffic [15:19] on the Virginia Highland Street. [15:20] But we didn't want to put that in a study [15:22] and then have the community come back and say, [15:24] well, if you can't get that, why does your study say this? [15:27] So I just wanted to give a little background around [15:29] why the study refers to a right and right out. [15:33] I will also note that having this curb cut on Ponce de [15:37] Leon Avenue [15:38] is something that requires relief during the special [15:40] administrative permit process, [15:42] the City Office of Zoning and Development [15:44] has the authority to grant that or not. [15:47] And so to the extent that this condition was removed, [15:50] the staff still has the authority [15:52] to modify, restrict, deny that variation at a later date. [15:57] We just would like it to be pushed [15:59] to a later conversation when maybe there's [16:00] more information about the traffic available. Thank you. [16:05] Thank you. [16:07] We will now enter deliberation questions or comments from the board. [16:11] Any thoughts about the curb cut? [16:19] I was trying to look. [16:21] Having a little difficulty here is there's a [16:25] a PED signal. [16:26] I don't know if it's a hawk signal, [16:28] but there's a pedestrian crossing in the middle of ponds, [16:31] and I'm trying to figure out where [16:32] exactly that is in proximity to the turn in [16:35] and turn out of this site plan. [16:41] So the pedestrian signal. Yes. [16:43] I might need to wait. [16:45] The pedestrian crossing is an offset crosswalk, [16:48] and it's located on the far west edge of the property. [16:51] The proposed driveway is closer to the center. [16:54] There's about 75ft of storage [16:58] in case there are three cars, but we 95th percentile cuz. [17:03] So 95% of the time you have one car or less. [17:06] Okay, that's that was the question I had about. [17:14] Miss Holmes. I know that staff recommended the right turn only. [17:17] Would you care to elaborate as to why you thought [17:19] that was the most effective approach? [17:22] Sure. When staff was evaluating this application [17:25] during our agenda review, we have we are in [17:29] conversation with our land planning coworkers in. [17:32] The request was made at that time because of the [17:35] the traffic that is on the possibly on corridor. [17:38] And so while Miss Hill is correct [17:41] that during the SAP process, [17:42] the administrative variation would be considered, we in [17:46] the office have tried to look at projects [17:49] holistically and not delay making decisions. [17:53] And this is a direct request [17:54] of a member of the land planning team. [17:57] Okay. [18:01] Any other questions or comments? [18:03] I think I'm inclined to go with the staff recommendation. [18:08] Anything else? [18:09] Okay. [18:10] I'm prepared to hear a motion. [18:15] Madam chair, with respect to case number [18:18] Z 2638, I move that this board accepts the stats. [18:24] Finding a fact. [18:25] Second motion made it properly. [18:28] Seconded. All in favor, say aye. [18:29] Nay. A motion passes. [18:32] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z 2638, [18:37] I move that this board [18:38] send forth a recommendation of approval with the conditions [18:42] found on page five and six of the case [18:48] found on the date of August 6th, 2026. [18:52] Second o the staff report. [18:55] Staff report. I'm sorry. [18:57] Staff report dated August 6th, 2026. [19:00] Second motions been made and properly seconded. [19:03] All in favor, say aye. [19:04] Opposed. Nay, a motion passes. [19:07] Next case. Business homes Z 2639. [19:10] An ordinance by the Committee to rezone from single family [19:12] residential Beltline overlay to community businesses. [19:15] Beltline overlay for property [19:16] located at 1298 Donley Avenue, Southwest, fronting 50ft [19:20] on the south side of Donley Avenue. [19:21] Beginning at a nail found on the southwest [19:23] right of way of Donley Avenue. [19:24] Set point being 48.67ft southeast from its intersection [19:28] with the right of way of Allegheny Street, 150ft. [19:31] Area 0.172 acres. Land lot. [19:33] 139 14th District, Fulton County, Georgia. [19:36] Owner D Jones. [19:37] Applicant Jamila Brown. [19:38] Input Council district ten. [19:41] Please go ahead and set your name and address and proceed. [19:45] Good afternoon. Jamila Brown 570 Piedmont Ave, Northeast Elena, Georgia 30308. [19:51] This is a request for a rezone from residential to commercial. [19:56] We understand that the community around is already commercial. [20:02] So this is a simple request. [20:05] But this is a controversy because of what's going there. [20:08] I just want the panel to know that we have met with the NPU [20:13] on multiple occasions in the franchisee, and the owner [20:18] and their in their council is working with the community [20:20] to come up with a community agreement [20:22] that the neighborhood would be comfortable with. [20:24] I just wanted to add that that's all. [20:29] Okay. Is that all your comments? [20:32] Okay. Go ahead. Have a seat. [20:33] Is there anyone else who would like to speak [20:35] in support of this application? [20:37] Is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition? [20:41] Okay. Hearing none, we will enter deliberation [20:44] questions or comments from the board, [20:47] so I'm not sure everyone is aware. [20:51] There have been additional [20:52] conditions that were proposed by the neighborhood. [20:56] That staff has provided, [20:59] and have any thoughts about that? [21:04] Okay. [21:19] Okay. I'm prepared to hear a motion. [21:21] Madam chair, with respect to case [21:23] number Z 2639, [21:26] I move that this board accepts the staff training effect. [21:31] Second motion has been made and properly seconded. [21:33] All in favor, say aye. [21:34] Opposed? Nay. [21:37] Motion passes. [21:38] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z [21:41] 2639, I move to this board. [21:44] Send forth a recommendation of approval. [21:48] Second motion has been. Oh, [21:53] I thought we had additional conditions. [21:54] With conditions? No. [21:58] The the. [22:02] Let's go back a second. [22:03] Back into deliberation. The [22:07] neighborhood. [22:07] Proposed conditions. [22:09] Staff report does not have conditions. [22:13] Okay. [22:14] To repeat. Yes. [22:17] Madam chair, to speak to case [22:19] number Z 2639, I recommend that this board send [22:24] forth a recommendation of approval. [22:27] Second motion has been made and properly seconded. [22:30] All in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. [22:32] All right. [22:32] Motion passes. [22:34] Next case, please, is 2642. [22:37] An ordinance by Councilmember Lillian Bakhtiari [22:39] to his own properties located in 1801, 18 1618 [22:43] 1918, 20, 1824, 1828, [22:46] 1832 and 1836 second Avenue, Decatur, Georgia and 560 [22:50] Fayetteville Road and 562 Fayetteville Road, Atlanta, [22:53] Georgia to the community Business District. [22:55] 596, 600 and 604 and 755 Ville Road, [22:59] to the single family residential and 735 Fayetteville [23:03] Road to the Honor Industrial Office. [23:05] Institutional zoning districts. [23:07] Upon annexation into the corporate limits [23:09] of the City of Atlanta and other purposes. [23:10] MPO Council District five. [23:12] Madam chair, I'll be speaking to this paper. [23:15] The properties to the properties to be annexed [23:17] are south of the City of Atlanta limits, [23:19] with frontage on Second Avenue and Fayetteville [23:21] Road in unincorporated DeKalb County. [23:23] The parcels are near the city of Atlanta. [23:25] Eastlake neighborhood in Council District five. [23:28] The properties comprise 101. [23:31] I'm Sorry comprise 15 parcels. [23:33] The eastern part of the area is situated [23:36] next to the city of Atlanta in unincorporated Kalb County. [23:38] All properties proposed for annexation [23:40] have frontages on Second Avenue or Fayetteville Road, [23:43] and the properties are improved with non residential uses [23:45] such as a place of worship and a school. [23:50] The. The intent to [23:52] the intent of the City of Atlanta are for single family [23:55] residential district is to provide for the protection [23:57] of existing single family communities [23:58] and the development [23:59] of new communities on lots of medium size [24:01] and a density of not more than one dwelling [24:03] unit per square feet, one dwelling unit per 9000ft. [24:07] Similarly, the intent of the 75 residential medium lot zoning [24:10] district in DeKalb County is to provide for the protection [24:13] of neighborhoods within the county [24:14] where lots of a minimum area of 10,000ft, and to provide [24:17] for compatible infill development in neighborhoods. [24:21] The intent of the Atlanta [24:22] C1 Community Business District is provide [24:24] for medium intensity retail and service [24:25] activities, and in areas are already committed [24:28] to development of this character. [24:29] Similarly, the C1 local commercial district [24:32] in DeKalb County is to provide convenient local retail, [24:35] shopping and service areas within the county [24:37] for our residents to provide for oriented [24:39] needs outside of the neighborhood center, town [24:41] center, and regional center character areas. [24:44] And lastly, [24:44] the intent of the City of Atlanta Oni [24:47] Office Institutional District [24:48] is to provide office, institutional [24:50] and residential development with assessed [24:52] supporting services but without general commercial [24:54] development and similarly, the intent of county is provide [24:58] convenient areas within the county [24:59] for the location of office [25:00] and institutional uses [25:01] which are necessary for the residents and business [25:03] and professional practitioners within the county. [25:09] As no new development is proposed in connection [25:11] with this annexation, the availability of other land [25:14] already zoned for the proposed use is not applicable, [25:16] however, because annexation into the city [25:18] of Atlanta requires the assignment of zoning, [25:20] the city must designate an appropriate [25:22] zoning classification at the time of annexation. [25:24] The proposed zoning C1, oh, and I [25:28] and R4 are in [25:31] line with its own indigenous indi kalb counties in the cab [25:34] county, and land use patterns [25:35] thereby maintain the existing balance of land usage. [25:38] The use is permitted under the proposed [25:40] will positively contribute to the character [25:42] of the surrounding neighborhoods, as they are [25:43] substantially similar to those most currently allowed [25:46] and already present under DeKalb County Zoning Regulations. [25:49] Staff recommendation is approval. [25:53] Thank you, Miss Holmes. Is there anyone here who would like to speak [25:54] in support of this application? [25:59] Yes, in support. [26:01] And remember to state your name and address before you begin. [26:05] Elamin. [26:07] My home address is 2807. [26:09] Heads would drive. [26:10] Atlanta, Georgia 30311. [26:16] This is a most of this property. [26:18] Our community. Lana mosque. [26:20] Lana has owned half this property for 50 years. [26:24] And then we began to acquire other property. [26:29] We were trying to develop [26:32] the whole neighborhood community. [26:34] And the city line runs through the property. [26:38] But most of the property is unincorporated DeKalb County, [26:42] so it makes it very difficult to try to do the development [26:46] we want to do in these two different [26:50] designations. So we [26:52] prefer to be bring everything into the city of Atlanta. [26:56] And we've met with the city on several occasions, and [27:01] they have been very supportive of that. [27:04] We've also informed DeKalb County of our intention, and [27:09] I can't say they have been [27:10] supportive of it, but they understand. [27:13] Okay. So I think that's it basically. [27:16] Okay. Thank you. [27:18] Is there anyone else who would like to speak [27:19] in support of the application? [27:22] Is there anyone who would like [27:23] to speak in opposition to the application? [27:27] Okay. Hearing none, we will enter deliberation [27:28] questions or comments from the board. [27:31] Okay. I'm prepared to hear a motion. [27:33] Madam chair, with respect to case number 26 stands 42. [27:38] I move that this board of stars [27:40] finding effect second motions been made and probably seconded. [27:44] All in favor, say aye. Opposed? [27:46] Motion passes. [27:48] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z 2642, [27:52] I moved the sports in forth a recommendation of approval. [27:56] Second motions been made properly seconded. [27:59] All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed. Nay. [28:02] Motion passes. [28:03] Next case, please, miss Holmes Z 2643 and Ordinance [28:06] by Zoning Committee designating the Peachtree Circle [28:09] Historic District, located in land lot 105 of the 17th district, [28:12] Georgia, to the Overlays on Designation [28:14] of Historic District pursuant to chapter 20 of the Zoning [28:17] Ordinance of the City of Atlanta. [28:18] Rezoning from single family and single family. [28:21] Landmark building site to single family historic district [28:25] in single family landmark building or site Historic district [28:26] amending the official zoning map. [28:27] Adopting chapter 21 of the Zoning [28:30] Ordinance of the City of Atlanta. [28:31] Repealing conflicting laws and for other purposes. [28:33] MP Council, District six. [28:36] Thank you, Miss Holmes. [28:37] Please state your name and address and proceed. [28:40] Madam chair, members of the board, I'm Robert Reed. [28:42] I am part of the Office of Design in the Department [28:47] of City Planning. I am the head of the Historic Preservation Studio, [28:50] and we are the applicant in this case. [28:52] Earlier action taken by the Urban Design Commission. [28:57] So the cities make a thousands of land use decisions [29:03] over over time, and most respond to the needs of the moment. [29:07] But occasionally community is asked to make a different [29:09] kind of decision, a decision about the physical quantity, [29:12] physical qualities a city deserves. [29:17] Qualities of a city deserve to endure for generations. [29:20] Historic district designation is one of those. [29:24] It is one of zoning highest purposes. [29:26] Every zoning regulation represents a community judgment [29:29] that certain private decisions have public consequences. [29:33] Setbacks protect light and air [29:35] height limits, preserve neighborhood scale tree [29:38] and stormwater regulations, protect environmental resources. [29:42] Historic district regulations serve that same public purpose. [29:47] They recognize that certain streets, [29:49] buildings, and neighborhoods possess a significant [29:51] that extends beyond [29:52] individual ownership because they contribute [29:55] to the character, identity, and welfare of the entire city. [29:59] Peachtree circle is one of those places. [30:01] There are moments in history when circumstances, [30:03] circumstance, vision and opportunity [30:05] come together to create something that [30:07] simply could not be replicated today. [30:09] Atlanta itself was born of such a convergence [30:12] the westward expansion of a young nation, [30:14] the advent of the railroads, [30:16] the unique geography of bridges, bridges, and water [30:20] that determined where this city would grow. [30:23] Peachtree circle represents another of those moments [30:25] when nationally significant planning ideas, [30:29] exceptional landscape design, distinguished architecture, [30:32] and visionary development combined [30:34] to create one of Atlanta's most recognizable streets. [30:37] To understand where we are going as a city, [30:39] we must first understand how we arrived here. [30:42] Historic designation is one of those ways [30:45] we preserve that understanding. [30:48] Beginning last December, proponents sponsored [30:50] two public meetings to discuss this proposal. [30:54] The city then conducted two additional public meetings [30:56] where residents shared concerns, suggestions, and ideas. [31:00] Those conversations [31:01] produced meaningful refinements to the proposed regulations. [31:05] Most recently, the Park Zoning Committee conducted its own [31:09] public hearing recommending additional refinements, [31:12] and the annually Park Civic Board. [31:14] Civic Civic Association [31:16] board affirmed the committee's findings, as did MPU. [31:20] Those recommendations have likewise [31:21] been incorporated into the proposal before you tonight. [31:25] This has been a deliberate and deliberative process [31:27] with multiple opportunities for public participation. [31:31] A clear majority of property owners who have expressed [31:34] an opinion to the Historic Preservation Studio [31:39] are in support of this designation. [31:43] Those materials are also included in your package [31:45] every email and petition we received. [31:49] Everyone who is participating in this [31:52] in this discussion, including those [31:53] who oppose designation, has demonstrated [31:55] something important they love Peachtree Circle. [31:59] The question before this board is not [32:00] whether Peachtree Circle is special. [32:02] The question is whether Atlanta's [32:04] zoning ordinance should recognize [32:06] and protect the public value [32:08] of one of Atlanta's defining residential landscapes. [32:12] Tonight, you are not simply considering another zoning case. [32:15] You are deciding whether one of Atlanta's most important [32:17] historic places should receive the same thoughtful stewardship [32:21] that our zoning ordinance [32:22] already provides to so many other public interests. [32:26] You are deciding whether. [32:30] All right. For that reason, we respectfully ask your [32:32] for your recommendation to in support of the Peachtree [32:34] Circle Historic District. [32:36] I'll reserve the rest of my time for rebuttal. [32:38] Thank you sir. [32:40] Is there anyone else who would like to speak [32:41] in support of the application at this time? [32:46] The Robert support? [32:48] Nope. Nope. [32:49] You need it. Okay. [32:51] I want all the rebuttal time. [32:53] Okay. [32:54] Is there anyone who would like [32:55] to speak in opposition at this time? [33:04] Hello. My name is John Jordan and I live at 48 [33:06] Peachtree Circle, Atlanta, Georgia. [33:07] 30309. [33:09] I'm speaking against the proposed [33:11] historic district and asking that you not accept this overlay proposal. [33:16] The main reason I'm going to speak tonight is there simply is not overwhelming support for this. [33:19] It's amongst the residents [33:21] of the district, of the proposed district. [33:22] It's it is contested in the numbers. Prove it. [33:25] The city's own count puts it, puts this at around [33:28] 52% of the impacted properties being in favor. [33:32] We've identified over [33:33] 42% of people that have said they are not in favor. [33:37] There are some folks who have chosen [33:38] not to participate for whatever reason, [33:41] but I think you should look at that [33:44] 52% and understand what's underneath it. [33:48] Of that 52%, ten of the properties [33:51] in favor are inside of one structure. [33:54] This is a condo apartment [33:56] within the within the proposed district. [33:57] And I'm not proposing that those people [33:59] should not have a say in this, but it is different when they do [34:02] not currently have the ability to redevelop their own property, [34:06] change the facade because they are part of an HOA. [34:09] It is simply different than the other [34:12] than the other parts of the other parcels that are weighing in. [34:14] And I would ask you to consider that second wind park, [34:18] a property owned by the city, is also in the city's numbers. [34:22] Not certain why that was included, [34:24] but I'm not certain why this city has a vote in this [34:27] in a park that isn't going to change [34:31] when you adjust the numbers for that, [34:32] the support for the city falls below 50%. [34:35] In fact, it's around 45, [34:38] giving the condominium one vote and giving one part [34:40] no vote and removing them from the denominator. [34:42] So I would just ask you seriously consider the [34:45] level of support for this. [34:53] Hello, my name is Andy. [34:55] I live at 158 Peachtree Circle, and I'm one of the properties [34:59] directly impacted by this proposed designation. [35:03] I think it's worth pointing out to corrections. [35:05] One, they showed the Maryland condo building [35:09] that's not actually on Peachtree Circle. [35:11] It's on 17th Street, and they showed the Randolph [35:14] Lucas Jones house, which was a house [35:16] at the intersection of Lindbergh and Peachtree [35:20] that was moved to Peachtree Circle [35:22] after another house was demolished about 20 years ago. [35:25] So they're using homes that have actually been moved [35:29] to the street or are not on the street [35:31] as indicative of what's on that street. [35:36] I'm here to ask the board for a 60 day continuance [35:39] of any of this decision on this matter, [35:41] so that I can obtain, at my own expense, [35:44] an independent appraisal report on the actual impact [35:48] this designation would have on our property values. [35:52] When I asked the Department of City Planning [35:54] how this designation would impact [35:56] property values on our street, Mr. [35:58] Reed directed me to the Fulton County tax records. [36:01] Respectfully, that data does not answer the question. [36:06] Tax records tell you what a property is worth today [36:10] on a current zoning, not what happens that value. [36:13] Once a regulatory restriction is layered onto one street [36:17] while every comparable home nearby remains unrestricted. [36:22] This afternoon, Mr. [36:23] Reed sent me an unpublished analysis [36:26] of historical city of Atlanta neighborhoods [36:30] versus unrestricted [36:35] neighborhoods. But again, that is not the issue here. [36:38] There is actually a published, peer [36:41] reviewed research showing that while [36:46] showing that while a whole neighborhood [36:48] historic designation can increase property values, [36:52] applying the same designation to just a subset [36:54] of a neighborhood tends to decrease that value. [36:58] And I'm aware of only two instances of a single street [37:02] or sub designation in the city of the City of Atlanta. [37:06] The first is Baltimore Block, [37:09] a commercial block converted from abandoned townhomes [37:11] into office spaces next to Emory Midtown. [37:15] Not comparable. [37:16] And Sunset [37:17] Avenue, home to Doctor [37:18] Martin Luther King Manor, Jackson and Julian Bond, [37:21] which is a street of national and international civil rights. [37:25] Significance. [37:27] Peachtree circle has no comparable historic value. [37:32] Fulton County records show our streets total appraised value is $159,272,800. [37:39] Every indication is that our values will decline [37:42] as buyers choose unrestricted alternatives nearby. [37:46] Even a conservative 5% decline is a cumulative [37:49] $8 million loss of value, and also loss of tax bases [37:54] for the city. [37:57] This proposal, such a dangerous precedent for the erosion of the city's [37:59] tax bases and other neighborhoods [38:02] where single street historic designations may be implemented in the future [38:05] before taking a step that could cost the city [38:07] millions in tax revenue, that impact should be studied. [38:11] It is not. [38:13] That's why I'm requesting 60 days to obtain [38:15] this appraisal report from an independent appraiser, [38:20] who will make available at the next session [38:23] at the continuing hearing. [38:25] Thank you. [38:27] Thank you sir. [38:28] Is there anyone else who would like to speak in opposition? [38:36] Thank you. [38:37] Ladies and gentlemen of the XB. [38:41] My name is Michael Hanlon. I'm a former member of the board of the Park Civic Association, [38:45] and I will not reiterate the points I made [38:47] in the submission I filed with the Derby yesterday. [38:52] And focus on two points. [38:53] Specifically how the APCs action [38:56] in this we. [39:00] I was a board member both in 2025 [39:04] when the board adopted [39:05] its neighborhood plan, and until last Wednesday, [39:09] when the board adopted the resolution that [39:13] accepts the recommendation of the zoning committee. [39:17] And the point I want to make [39:20] is that our neighborhood conservation [39:21] plan does not support historic designation. [39:24] In fact, it does the exact opposite. [39:27] First of all, by its clear and explicit [39:31] wording that every produced in my letter to you. [39:34] And secondly, if that were not enough, [39:36] and I was quite shocked to hear my colleagues on the board [39:39] say that no, in fact, this conservation study does [39:43] support historic designation. Admit [39:45] there's a sentence in there somewhere that says that. [39:47] But I'd like to read to you from the minutes of that meeting [39:51] that are publicly available on our website for all to read. [39:55] And so when it gets to the point and the discussion [39:59] focused on the study recommendation five, [40:01] there was also some discussion focusing on the references [40:04] to Ansley Park's inclusion in the National Register [40:07] of Historic Places, and that attempts to pursue [40:10] historic designation for the neighborhood had not passed. [40:13] Mr. Brown, the APC board president, emphasized [40:17] that those references were included expressly convey [40:21] that the [40:23] plans purpose was limited to working with existing [40:26] zoning code regulations for the neighborhood, [40:29] and not a disguised attempt at reintroducing the constraints [40:32] of historic designation on Ansley Park residents. [40:37] There was some disagreement [40:38] on one of the recommendations, [40:42] and ultimately the board approved the plan. [40:45] On that basis, both myself and the previous speaker, [40:49] John Jordan, who is also a board member at the time. [40:52] The only reason we supported this was [40:54] that plan was expressly to not find ourselves [40:58] in the situation where we are today. [41:00] That is the first point I will make [41:02] and the second point I will make. [41:03] Coming to the recommendation very briefly, [41:06] is that the recommendation, or rather [41:08] the resolution that was adopted by the board, [41:10] is very carefully worded. [41:12] It does not say [41:13] supporting of historic designation is does not say [41:16] this is a great idea for the neighborhood. [41:18] What it specifically says is that [41:22] we accept the recommendation of the zoning committee, [41:26] and the entire point of that was for the board to say, well, [41:33] the zoning committee came to its conclusion. [41:35] It seems to have done its job, and therefore [41:39] we will accept that recommendation. [41:41] But it doesn't go any further than that. [41:43] It should not be interpreted as anything broader than that. [41:47] Other than that, I refer back to the materials [41:49] I've already filed and I thank you for your time. [41:53] Thank you sir. [41:55] How much time remains for that? [41:56] I should just add that I sent a copy of the minutes [42:00] to the NPU website, as I realized I hadn't included [42:04] my original submissions. My apologies. Okay. [42:06] Thank you. How much time remains for the opposition? [42:09] Two 1703 17 remains for the opposition. [42:13] Okay. [42:17] Hello, my name is Deja Carter. [42:19] I live at 21 Peachtree Circle, and in one of the homes [42:23] that would be impacted by this decision, [42:26] my neighbors made some great points. [42:27] I will not be labor those in the time that we have left. [42:30] I'll just mention two that haven't come up yet. [42:33] The first is the precedent that we would be setting here. [42:36] If you acknowledge Peachtree Circle as a historic district, [42:39] I think in all of the references that I have emailed to you [42:43] in 2022, the entire neighborhood had an opportunity [42:46] to become a historic district, and that was summarily rejected. [42:50] If you select Peachtree Circle, it gives the opportunity, [42:54] one street at a time, for the neighborhood [42:56] to be designated as a historic district, [42:58] which was not requested or required at that time, [43:02] creates a patchwork of inconsistent regulation, [43:05] and it is not in the board's best interest, [43:09] I think, to have that. [43:10] The second point that I want to call out [43:14] is there's an uneven and disproportionate burden [43:17] on specific homeowners. [43:18] Peachtree circle is a street with mixed error homes, [43:23] and the regulations would apply unevenly. [43:26] There would be a greater financial burden on the homes [43:28] that are newer, including my own, [43:30] who still have to apply to some of the designations. [43:36] Mr. Reed is going to tell you that our designations [43:38] are lighter because we are newer. [43:39] That is true. [43:40] If some significant [43:42] thing happens to my home, I can either rebuild [43:45] exactly as it is. [43:46] I think we all know what happens [43:48] when we try to match something that was once was, or [43:51] I have the option of rebuilding in the historic era. [43:55] I bought a home built in 2006. [43:57] I do not want one that reflects an era of historic designation. [44:01] That's not. [44:02] It's just not what I wanted. [44:03] And I think that the [44:05] requirements on those types of homes are unfair. The. [44:12] The last point is that. [44:18] So I guess I'll end with saying that it [44:20] that this is a permanent, [44:22] uneven and financially burdensome designation [44:25] being advanced without clear community support. As Mr. [44:27] Jordan noted, our own numbers via the zoning board [44:31] who did approve, indicated 50% more opposition than support. [44:35] However, members of the zoning board themselves [44:38] were personally vested in this, and that is my personal opinion [44:41] of why they approved it and why the APC board [44:44] across the board supported it as well. [44:46] Thank you, [44:48] thank you. [44:50] Is there anyone else who would like to speak in opposition? [44:57] And how much time remains for the opposition? [44:59] Now, 56 seconds can be very brief. [45:05] My name is Henry Lapeer. I live at 175 Peace Circle and one of the affected homes. [45:08] Just to build off the discussion before, [45:12] while we've had a process to [45:14] revise the regulations once the city became involved, [45:19] we've never had an opportunity to contest the actual borders [45:22] or involve our neighbors about why we selected [45:24] just this part of our larger neighborhood. [45:27] The historic character neighborhood extends through all of it. [45:28] They show the entire map of the Olmsted. [45:30] They selected one street, [45:32] and there's some curious inclusions, [45:33] including that condominium [45:34] in the park, which seemed to predispose [45:36] a certain conclusion to this process. [45:38] The net effect, whether that was intentional [45:40] or not, is to disenfranchize those of us that oppose [45:42] and cannot give us an opportunity [45:43] to have an opinion about where those boundaries lie [45:46] and how they affect us and the larger neighborhood. [45:48] This is a discussion that needs to happen [45:50] for all the neighbors in this neighborhood. [45:53] Not to leave us, a few of us handling the responsibilities for ourselves. [45:56] I'll leave you with that. Thank you. [45:58] Thank you. [45:59] That's time for the opposition. [46:04] How much time remains for the applicant? [46:07] Or actually for those in support? [46:09] The city is the applicant. [46:11] Four minutes, 15 for 458 remains. [46:18] You can't provide [46:19] additional materials. [46:32] Mr. Gandhi had [46:34] mentioned a study, and fortunately, we were able to [46:37] track that study down. [46:38] And and our team who does [46:42] these is doing this ongoing study that found no significant [46:47] difference between neighborhoods. [46:49] His contingent, of course, is about streets. [46:51] But I'll ask you to sort of think about the [46:53] the designated neighborhoods in the city, in the park, [46:58] Grant Park, you know, Collier Heights and the surrounding neighborhoods. [47:01] And if you [47:02] if you see [47:03] substantial differences in values [47:05] there, where the neighborhood, the designated neighborhood [47:08] is less value than the neighborhood [47:10] just outside, that's a similar sort of comparison. [47:12] I think we can all sort of see that one. [47:14] That said, the [47:17] the report itself, the the [47:19] study that was cited, even in its [47:24] findings, the authors describe the [47:27] designation as having a negative effect, [47:28] but they also expressly stated [47:30] that the result is such that we cannot even [47:33] exclude the possibility that the delta is zero, [47:35] and that the estimated effect [47:37] had a confidence level of only 40.5%. [47:40] So some serious considerations around that study. [47:45] The other points, just to be clear, [47:48] the city parks department in Wind Park [47:50] is supportive of this designation. [47:51] They believe that the the historic materials in the park [47:55] are something to be preserved, [47:56] and they appreciate our interaction with them. [47:59] And so to the degree that we count that as support, [48:02] we we do so. [48:05] I think the math on the [48:07] the level of support was a bit of a stretch. [48:10] So I'm just going to leave that one to be what it is. [48:13] And then the question of [48:17] property rights and [48:19] values, I think that we [48:24] you know, I've sort of spoken to the value piece of this as well. [48:25] But the the property rights in particular, the, the idea that [48:30] that every home is privately owned is substantial. [48:34] And there's this is a very light touch regulation. [48:38] We are very [48:40] we are really focusing on simply [48:42] the preservation of of the facades in particular [48:44] and their relationship to the streets. [48:46] I think some of the pictures you've seen where the houses [48:49] have been demolished and the lots have been scraped, [48:53] sort of speaks to what the changes can happen [48:56] around such teardowns, and that we have the opportunity [49:01] to say that this some of these buildings are, [49:06] and their relationship to the street and relationships to the landscape are [49:09] are a true public interest. [49:11] And that's our opportunity here. [49:13] And what I'm going to leave you with tonight, [49:14] and then I will leave for the rest of my time [49:17] for someone to come up [49:18] for some of the additional supporters to come up. [49:21] How much time is left? [49:24] 210 remains. [49:29] David go first and then Miss Lyman. [49:31] All right. [49:36] Hello, everybody. I'm Joan Lyman, and I reside at 116 Peachtree Circle. [49:40] And all the conversations that have been happening [49:42] about hardship and reconstruction. [49:44] And if there's issues for your home. [49:46] My home was finished in 1915. [49:49] It was acquired by a family that lived there for over 75 years. [49:53] And that was Daniel Rich and his family. [49:56] When I purchased it at no. [49:58] Nine, my inspection report was 400 pages. [50:02] My bank pulled out of it and had to buy it for cash. [50:04] I am still in the middle of the renovation [50:07] and restoration of that property. [50:09] Even now, with the historic district [50:11] and the conditions that's going to put on is, [50:13] I still feel enlightened and hopeful and very supportive [50:18] that I will get through this, this report of 400 pages. [50:23] I'm halfway through. I have another 200 pages of problems, but in no way does [50:27] interim controls affect or inhibit [50:30] the the cost of doing it, as well as the value of my home [50:35] in the future. I just hope you will consider this, because our property [50:39] on Peachtree Circle is a place that those before us [50:44] thought of leaving something of historic value, and we'd like to continue that. [50:47] Thank you for your time. [50:49] Thank you. And 1 or 2 remains. [50:55] David Mitchell, 327 Saint Paul Avenue, southeast Atlanta, Georgia 32312. [50:59] One of the homes that was exhibited [51:00] here was the Randolph Lucas Jones home. [51:02] It already is a local landmark. It's been landmarked. [51:04] This committee did this about a year ago. [51:06] It's already shown the significance. [51:08] All we're doing is asking you to build upon [51:09] what is already established, contributing [51:11] significant component of the city of Atlanta. [51:13] You're making it landed right with this vote. [51:15] You're doing something that's going to change [51:16] and impact people for the generations to come. [51:18] We ask you to be very thoughtful of this [51:20] and beseech you to allow this move forward. [51:22] As the Executive Director, Atlanta Preservation Center, [51:24] I can assure you that historic properties, [51:26] historic homes only continue to go up in value. [51:30] And I can assure you that. Am I happy to provide information at a later date? [51:31] Thank you very much. Thank you. [51:34] Anytime. We. [51:37] 28 seconds remaining, is there any additional comments [51:40] that we would like to make in support of the application? [51:46] Wrap up the 28 seconds. [51:47] I think you can understand [51:48] the sort of passion that the proponents of this have, [51:51] and that their work for many years [51:55] in this past year in particular, has been substantial to [51:58] to guard the support that we have. [52:00] And so please do refer to some of those supporting emails and [52:06] petitions. Thank you. [52:08] Thank you sir. [52:12] We will enter deliberation now. [52:14] Questions or comments from the board. [52:17] I had a couple of questions. [52:20] Our thoughts. First of all, isn't Atkins Park in Virginia Highland? [52:24] Wouldn't that be another example [52:25] of a single street in a neighborhood [52:27] that has a historic designation when the neighborhood does not? [52:32] In Virginia Highlands first, the Bonaventure, Somerset [52:36] designation was in place, then [52:39] Bonaventure, Somerset was wrapped into [52:44] another historic district that I can't remember. [52:47] Plenty Highland [52:50] Historic historic designation or historic district? [52:53] I'm sorry, Historic district. [52:55] Okay, but Atkins, I thought maybe his park is separate [52:59] and it is a in C district. [53:03] Okay, [53:05] my other question was, [53:07] I don't know if you have this history, Miss Homeless, but [53:10] when the full neighborhood came before the city. [53:16] Well, actually, I'm sorry. Maybe the full neighborhood didn't come before the city [53:17] because it wasn't able to get past. [53:18] Do you have any of the history that you could provide about [53:21] the park has attempted. [53:23] Ansley Park has attempted historic designation [53:26] at least two times, I believe, [53:29] since I have been in the city, and I do believe [53:31] they have attempted at one time prior to that. [53:34] So at least three times. [53:35] Ainslie Park as a full neighborhood [53:38] has attempted to become a historic district and each time that has failed. [53:41] Do you have an idea as to what the kind of general [53:45] vote percentages were? [53:46] I mean, what are we looking at kind of 5050? [53:48] Or was it generally way. No, no. [53:53] And Miss Freezes is Miss Freeze here tonight Jennifer. [53:55] Freeze. She's not. [53:58] And she was the person who was leading the last effort in Ansley Park. [54:01] And she could probably speak to the specifics of those. [54:03] There are a couple of people in the audience [54:05] who are raising their hands as if they could speak. [54:06] I know we are an executive session, [54:07] so we're not really allowed to get feedback [54:09] from individuals, I appreciate it. [54:11] Some of y'all probably do have some history in that, but. [54:18] I'm personally torn this. [54:21] I live in Candler Park and I have watched our neighborhood [54:23] try many, many times to go through [54:24] historic district designation. [54:26] And it never succeeds because in my personal opinion, [54:31] decades ago, I think there was a little bit more community connection [54:33] to the neighborhood and a little less [54:35] private property values, [54:37] which is why neighborhoods like Inman Park [54:38] were able to get it through many moons ago. [54:40] But Candler Park still can't and probably never will. [54:44] I think there's real value with homes like this [54:46] for historic district designation, [54:48] but I'm a little concerned about the street street approach. [54:52] I miss homes, as anybody on staff [54:54] have any concerns about that kind of approach. [54:57] Or do you think that's actually the best way to go when a full name? [54:58] I don't think it's a street to street, [55:00] a street to street approach. [55:01] I think that Randolph Lucas inspired the persons [55:06] who live on Peachtree Circle to consider this. [55:09] I don't think that this will mean that [55:11] the overall Ansley Park will then consider [55:15] a historic designation. [55:16] It has failed twice before, [55:18] and so I don't have any confidence [55:20] that Ansley Park will become a historic district. [55:22] I believe that the folks on [55:23] Peachtree Circle have made a decision. [55:25] And it is before you all tonight. [55:31] Any other questions or comments? [55:33] Mr. Reed, can you explain? [55:36] I mean, I've read in the documents [55:39] that were provided, give some high level discussion [55:43] on what the requirements will actually mean for homeowners. [55:49] Certainly. So the the as I mentioned in the presentation, [55:50] the the focus is on the public realm. [55:52] So the importance is, of course, the historic buildings [55:56] and their relationship to the street as they are. [56:00] Peachtree circle is features [56:03] that Olmsted and design where it's a variable setbacks. [56:06] And so currently what we're seeing is that [56:09] houses will be torn down, move to the allowed setback [56:13] of the underlying zoning and interrupt the sort of [56:16] pattern of the street. So that's one of the things that this [56:20] ordinance would address, this regulation would address. [56:23] So the setbacks become assigned to your neighboring properties, [56:29] and also the sort of sense of scale and relationship to the existing buildings. [56:32] Those are important elements as well. [56:34] The front facades are would remain in place. [56:38] They would be required to be part of the [56:41] of any sort of redevelopment. [56:43] But the basically rear additions would be allowed up [56:47] to sort of 20ft from the front facade. [56:51] So theoretically you would be able to reconstruct the house from that point back. [56:55] And even on the front facades, you would be allowed to update [56:58] the windows and change doors and whatnot. [57:01] Generally speaking, inside of a compatible renovation [57:04] or a compatible addition that follows the [57:07] the style of the house and then new houses. A [57:12] we the the neighborhood as part of the zoning committee [57:15] made some recommendations that we have the styles [57:18] of the houses of styles of the period of significance [57:22] be the sort of basis of that, but that new houses [57:24] would need to be compatible with those [57:26] if a house were to be lost. [57:30] And also, you know, noncontributing houses [57:32] are also allowed to be demolished still. [57:35] And so there is [57:37] a substantial number of contributing houses, [57:38] which is the beauty of this neighborhood. [57:40] But the noncontributing houses would allow to be demolished. [57:45] Generally speaking, they would have to follow their existing footprint, or they would have to [57:48] meet the requirements of the new regulations. [57:50] And we did address the sort of conditions of what a [57:54] the various conditions. [57:55] If there's a catastrophic loss of a [57:59] contributing house, you would have to follow those [58:01] that basically the same style that you had, [58:03] but not contributing houses have the option to build back [58:05] what they had to follow the new house regulations. [58:10] So a noncontributing structure would not need a type four. [58:14] Or was it a type four application? [58:16] Correct. [58:19] Would it be? It would be a redevelopment [58:20] of a of a Noncontributing structure would be [58:24] considered as part of a type three, type [58:27] three development. [58:35] Okay. I'm prepared to hear a motion. [58:38] Madam chair, with respect to case number [58:41] Z 26 dash 40. [58:46] I'm sorry. [58:47] Three Z 2643 [58:52] I recommend that this board accept the state's finding fact. [58:55] Second motion been made and properly seconded. [58:58] All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Nay. [59:00] Motion passes. [59:02] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z 2643, [59:07] I recommend that this board setting forth a recommendation [59:10] of approval, second motion been made and properly seconded. [59:14] All have ever say in opposed nay a motion passes [59:20] you 2610 an ordinance by Zoning Committee for a Special Use Permit [59:22] for Commercial Recreation pursuant to section 1618 I007 [59:27] for property located at 3035 Peachtree Road, [59:30] 305ft Tree Road, northeast number 235 and 3027 [59:33] Bowling Way northeast fronting 100.6ft [59:36] on the south side of Buckhead Avenue, [59:37] commencing at a scribe [59:39] set at the intersection of the north right of way [59:40] line of Buckhead Avenue and the easterly [59:42] right of way of Peachtree Road. [59:44] Deadline 46.53ft. [59:46] Area .94 acres. [59:47] Land lot 9917, Bishop County, Georgia. [59:50] Owner and applicant J.P. [59:52] Buckhead Village LLP. [59:55] Care of Ana Maria means dentist, US, LLP, NPB Council District seven. [1:00:00] This is anyone here who would like to speak [1:00:02] in support of this application. [1:00:03] And please state your name and address. [1:00:08] Good evening, chair and members of the board. [1:00:10] My name is Alexis Cromartie. [1:00:11] I am an attorney at Dentons US LLP, located at 303 [1:00:16] Peachtree Street Northeast, Atlanta, Georgia 30308I [1:00:22] am here on behalf of the applicant, Jamestown Properties, specifically J.P. [1:00:26] Buckhead Village, L.P., in support of the application [1:00:29] for a special use permit [1:00:30] for commercial recreation at 3035 Peachtree Road. [1:00:34] 3035 Peachtree Road is located within the Buckhead [1:00:37] Village district, which is a mixed use development [1:00:40] owned and operated by Jamestown Properties. [1:00:43] The applicant seeks a special [1:00:45] use permit for the use itself within an existing building. [1:00:48] This is not a rezoning and not a new development. [1:00:51] The use here is to operate a commercial [1:00:53] recreational facility, specifically a full service gym, [1:00:57] within 42,432ft of [1:01:01] of interior space and 3182ft of exterior terrace. [1:01:08] The gym will occupy space above the existing sidewalk level. [1:01:12] Retail uses. [1:01:13] In the same portion of [1:01:14] the development as the existing Spanx headquarters near [1:01:18] Rolex and Carmel Restaurant. [1:01:21] The facility will include [1:01:23] exercise studios for yoga, pilates, and cycling. [1:01:29] Excuse me, [1:01:30] an open gym for strength training and cardio, [1:01:33] an accessory, fitness terrace, a spa, [1:01:37] a cafe and juice bar, a member lounge and locker rooms. [1:01:41] Importantly, there will be no basketball courts, no tennis [1:01:44] courts, no swimming pools or other sports courts. [1:01:47] No new structures will be built. [1:01:49] This use is completely contained within the existing building, [1:01:54] fitting seamlessly into the established mix of retail, [1:01:57] office and dining uses already operating in the district. [1:02:01] The property is located [1:02:03] on the east side of Peachtree Road [1:02:04] between Buckhead Avenue and Far Road. [1:02:07] It's zoned Spy nine SA1. [1:02:10] The Buckhead Village development has operated here [1:02:12] for over a decade and received its SAP in 2012. [1:02:17] Vehicles will use existing curb cuts on Peachtree Road [1:02:20] and Buckhead Avenue. [1:02:21] We project approximately 250 vehicular trips a day, [1:02:25] and we also anticipate that area residents will walk [1:02:28] or use alternative transportation. [1:02:30] No road improvements are necessary. [1:02:33] The development includes 760 existing parking spaces [1:02:37] in the adjacent parking structure, [1:02:39] which is more than adequate to serve this use. [1:02:41] The majority of activity occurs indoors. [1:02:44] The exterior terrace includes rubber flooring, turf [1:02:47] and planters, and is generally not visible from the street. [1:02:51] We do not anticipate any additional noise, [1:02:54] glare or light impact. [1:02:56] The gym will be open from 5 a.m. [1:02:58] to 11 p.m. [1:02:59] Monday through Friday, and 7 a.m. [1:03:01] to 9 p.m. on weekends and holidays. [1:03:04] The Fitness Terrace will open at 7 a.m. [1:03:07] daily. There will be approximately 65 employees on rotation [1:03:10] seven days a week. [1:03:11] We presented this application to Neighborhood [1:03:15] Planning Unit B and received unanimous approval. [1:03:18] The community recognizes that this is an appropriate [1:03:20] commercial use within an existing mixed use development. [1:03:24] This application adds an appropriate, [1:03:26] low impact commercial use to an established mixed [1:03:29] use development, with existing infrastructure, [1:03:31] parking and access already in place. [1:03:34] It is consistent with the character [1:03:36] of Buckhead Village neighborhood. [1:03:38] On behalf of Jamestown Properties, we respectfully ask [1:03:41] that this board approved the Special Use Permit [1:03:44] for an indefinite period of time. [1:03:48] Given the tenants substantial investment [1:03:50] in this project and significant capital outlay required, [1:03:56] excuse me in a definite Sup [1:03:58] would provide the necessary stability [1:04:01] for the tenant to commit to the project and ensure its long term success. [1:04:04] I will also note that when we presented to the MPU [1:04:07] and the DRC, neither had any concerns [1:04:11] regarding our request for an indefinite Sup. [1:04:16] We understand that the staff recommendation [1:04:18] is for an Sup for a term of 20 years. [1:04:23] We respectfully request [1:04:25] that the board consider an indefinite permit. [1:04:27] However, if you are not inclined to do [1:04:30] so, then we respectfully request that you follow [1:04:33] the staff's recommendation and keep the duration of the Sup [1:04:37] tied to the lease term for the tenant. [1:04:39] In this application, [1:04:41] which is a 20 year lease term, and I reserve [1:04:43] the remainder of my time for rebuttal. [1:04:45] Thank you, thank you. [1:04:47] Is there anyone who would like to speak [1:04:48] in support of the application at this time? [1:04:50] And is there anyone who would like to speak in [1:04:52] opposition to the application [1:04:56] with the applicant? Like to make additional comments? [1:04:57] Oh, would you like to speak in opposition? [1:05:02] I'm here to speak in opposition of it. [1:05:05] Okay. [1:05:06] If I'm not mistaken, sir, could you give your name [1:05:09] and your address, please? [1:05:10] My name is Peter Bloom. [1:05:12] You need to speak directly into the microphone. [1:05:14] Sorry. Excuse me. [1:05:15] Peter Bloom. Pom. [1:05:21] Address, and then you can proceed. [1:05:23] Two addresses, 1828 Mount Perrin. And. [1:05:30] An apartment building. [1:05:33] Two off 92 West Paces Ferry. [1:05:38] Okay. [1:05:38] Go ahead. [1:05:42] For one thing, [1:05:44] you you're going to need to speak into the microphone [1:05:47] instead of looking at the at the slides. [1:05:50] One thing, just to put it on the record, [1:05:54] I sold the property to RH [1:05:58] to Restoration Hardware [1:06:01] and only adjacent property. [1:06:06] And I've got some questions that I don't understand. [1:06:12] First question is [1:06:15] if they put this, [1:06:16] how did they get back and forth into their building [1:06:20] because they tied up tied it up once before? [1:06:23] If not this property, it was right there. [1:06:26] And the traffic is pretty, pretty. [1:06:33] It's pretty busy all the time [1:06:35] because that's supposed to be a private road. [1:06:39] But it's if you notice [1:06:42] the traffic light at Peachtree and the private road, [1:06:46] it only lasts, I think about 17 or [1:06:49] 18 seconds, and [1:06:52] it's. [1:06:57] I just want some questions [1:06:58] answered. And. [1:07:04] I want to know why they could not do that [1:07:07] in the property that they have [1:07:10] and how this is going to benefit. [1:07:15] The city and not hurt. [1:07:20] There's too many people [1:07:23] that have to come through this private road. [1:07:26] The Saint Regis is already worried about it. [1:07:31] I think it's fair to say that [1:07:34] so are others. [1:07:39] There's an apartment building there. [1:07:41] I know they're worried, and. [1:07:45] It may sound pretty simple about [1:07:47] putting a swimming pool in. [1:07:50] How do they walk over to how does how do people go to it? [1:07:54] Get in there? And [1:07:58] did they just cross the street? [1:08:00] Is there a way to get across the street [1:08:02] without traffic coming in? And. [1:08:09] I have some real concerns about it. [1:08:19] Do you have additional comments? [1:08:29] I'm hopeful that they're planning on. [1:08:31] I think I saw it, they're planning on expanding [1:08:33] and doing more to their building. [1:08:37] Is there no way they couldn't do this [1:08:39] in connection with the expansion, [1:08:42] as opposed to doing something across the street [1:08:46] where it's a private road, and is there a way to do it [1:08:51] without adding burdens to people for that private road? [1:08:55] How are they going to get across the street? [1:08:59] What's what is the [1:09:01] how is it going to be done? [1:09:08] I mean, I think. [1:09:11] I mean, I've dealt [1:09:13] with restoration for. [1:09:18] About 17 years and. [1:09:23] I can understand [1:09:24] their desire to upgrade or to expand, [1:09:28] but I think [1:09:31] they could [1:09:33] they could probably do the same thing with enough money [1:09:36] without going across the street and putting putting in [1:09:41] what was up on the monitor earlier. [1:09:44] I'm against that, and I think there will be [1:09:48] everybody that I believe the Saint Regis will be against it. [1:09:52] I believe 92 West Pace's Ferry will be against it. [1:09:56] And I think it's it's something that should not pass. [1:10:07] Do you have any questions? [1:10:08] I'm happy to answer them. [1:10:09] We don't ask questions at this point. [1:10:11] This is your opportunity to make your comments. [1:10:13] So if you have made your comments, have a seat. [1:10:16] And if there's anybody else in opposition, they can proceed. [1:10:20] Thank you. Okay, thanks. [1:10:23] Is there anyone else who would like [1:10:24] to speak in opposition to this application? [1:10:30] Okay. [1:10:31] Is there anyone who would like to speak in support [1:10:33] in the time remaining? [1:10:39] Sorry. Good evening again. [1:10:40] We have John Morris here [1:10:41] from Jamestown Properties to speak about the property. [1:10:45] He can address the concerns. [1:10:47] Thank you. Yeah. [1:10:49] Thank you. [1:10:49] John Moores, [1:10:51] 3035 Peachtree Road, Lana, Georgia, 30305. [1:10:56] I appreciate the comments we've heard here tonight. [1:10:58] I believe there might be some confusion on the actual site. [1:11:04] Believe the site that is being referenced is actually across the street [1:11:06] at 3030 Peachtree Road, and that private drive [1:11:11] that was discussed that goes behind Saint Regis, [1:11:14] and that development is actually across the street [1:11:17] and not part of the development that we are speaking to. [1:11:21] Thank you. [1:11:22] Thank you. [1:11:24] Is there anyone else you would like to speak [1:11:26] in support of the application? [1:11:29] Okay. We will enter deliberation questions [1:11:30] or comments from the board. [1:11:34] Okay. Hearing none, we will prepare to hear a motion. [1:11:38] Madam chair, with the two case number, [1:11:41] you dash 2610. [1:11:44] I move that this board accept the stats finding the [1:11:48] before we go with that. [1:11:49] So the staff recommendation is actually ten years [1:11:54] in the staff report they are amenable to 20 years. [1:11:59] That was the. [1:12:02] But they were I don't believe staff could miss homes. [1:12:07] Could you respond to the query about an unlimited duration [1:12:12] that was raised by the applicant in the applicant's comments? [1:12:16] Staff is not supportive of indefinite duration. [1:12:19] Staff is normally not supportive of an indefinite duration [1:12:22] for a first time special use permit. [1:12:24] We have been amenable, however, to tying [1:12:27] the special use permit duration or limitation that we [1:12:32] support to the lease terms, and in this case, [1:12:35] lease term is 20 years and we are amenable to attend [1:12:38] a 20 year duration. Okay. [1:12:40] So any concerns about. [1:12:45] Changing the condition to a 20 year limitation versus ten. [1:12:48] That makes sense. [1:12:50] Okay. And any interest in doing an indefinite term? [1:12:54] I don't think so. [1:12:56] No, I think we're ready for a motion. [1:13:00] Madam chair, with respect to case number Z. [1:13:04] Dash. [1:13:05] I'm sorry, case number you 2610. [1:13:09] I moved to this board. [1:13:10] Acceptance five finding a fact. [1:13:12] Second, the motion been made and properly seconded. [1:13:15] All in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. [1:13:17] All right, mission passes. [1:13:19] Madam chair, with respect to case number, you dash 2610. [1:13:24] I move that this board sent forth a recommendation of a [1:13:28] of approval with the change [1:13:31] to the condition to that. [1:13:35] I'm sorry. Condition number one that that permit be valid for [1:13:40] condition of 20 years [1:13:42] to match the length term of the term of the lease. [1:13:46] And also, number two, stay as noted on the staff [1:13:49] report dated August 6th, 2026. [1:13:54] And that would be 20 years from the date of [1:13:55] adoption by the City Council. [1:14:01] To clarify on point [1:14:02] one of the staff condition [1:14:04] to allow for the permit to be valid for 20 years, valid [1:14:08] from the date of adoption of the city. [1:14:12] Second motion has been made properly seconded. [1:14:14] All the favor. Say aye. Opposed. Nay. [1:14:16] Motion passes. [1:14:18] Okay. Next. [1:14:20] Are you going to read the two cases together? [1:14:22] Then the next few cases [1:14:24] and then we'll consider them individually. [1:14:27] I was just about to say that [1:14:29] Z 20 607 and ordinance by Zoning Committee [1:14:32] to rezone from heavy industrial [1:14:33] Upper West Side overlay to mix of the general commercial [1:14:35] Upper West side overlay for property located at 1116 [1:14:39] 1166 1130 1184 [1:14:42] Logan Circle, 1196 [1:14:44] 1250, 1264, 1274, 1284, [1:14:48] 1294, 1314 1330 and 1346 [1:14:52] Logan Circle and 13 2535 Chattahoochee Avenue. [1:14:55] 1389 Chattahoochee Avenue. [1:14:57] 1355 1379 1391 in 1395, Chattahoochee ABA North-West [1:15:02] front in approximately 1033ft on the east side of Chattahoochee [1:15:04] Avenue, beginning in an iron pan [1:15:06] found at the intersection of the easterly right [1:15:08] of way of Chattahoochee Avenue and the southerly right of way [1:15:10] of of the southerly portion of Logan Circle. [1:15:12] Deb ferries area 23.35 acres. [1:15:15] Land 102 and one 9317 Fulton County, Georgia owners [1:15:19] say Logan Chat LLC see The Enterprises LLC, six [1:15:24] two LLC and Click Logan LLC applicant SC Logan Chat, LLC [1:15:28] input Council District nine Z 20 608 in order [1:15:33] Committee to rezone from Heavy Industrial Upper West Side [1:15:35] Overlay to mixed commercial Upper West Side overlay for [1:15:38] property located at 1405 1417 [1:15:44] Chattahoochee Avenue in 1119 Logan Circle. [1:15:47] 1149 1159 Logan Circle, 1177 1209, [1:15:51] 1223, 1225, 1301, 1305 1311. [1:15:59] In 1369, Logan Circle northwest [1:16:02] fronted approximately 450ft on the east side of Chattahoochee [1:16:04] Avenue northwest, beginning in an iron pin [1:16:06] found at the intersection of the right of way [1:16:08] of the northerly portion of Logan Circle, [1:16:10] with the easterly right of way of Chattahoochee Avenue. [1:16:12] Deb varies area of 13.36 acres. [1:16:14] Limits 192 and one 9317 Fulton County, Georgia owner [1:16:18] and applicant CI Logan Chat LLC in Council [1:16:21] District nine. [1:16:25] 1325 1333. [1:16:29] Please go ahead and proceed. [1:16:31] Good evening again, members of the board. [1:16:33] My name is Jessica Hill. [1:16:34] My business address is 600 Peachtree Street. [1:16:37] And again, I represent Seelig Enterprises, who is both the applicant [1:16:40] and the property owner. [1:16:42] And in this case, they have owned this property [1:16:44] for about 75 years. [1:16:45] So a little bit longer vintage on this property [1:16:48] also still joined tonight by representatives from Seelig, [1:16:51] the architecture group, as well as our civil engineer. [1:16:54] And I've got a [1:16:57] a nice aerial board to orient you on where we are. [1:17:00] So for those that are familiar [1:17:01] with the existing works development, [1:17:03] this is Chattahoochee on this aerial here. [1:17:05] You've got the railroad Underwood Hills on plan right. [1:17:09] This is the existing works development here. [1:17:11] What we're talking about in these two [1:17:13] applications is a little bit over 36 acres. [1:17:15] That's immediately to the existing works development. [1:17:19] So it's these buildings that front along Chattahoochee. [1:17:24] And the reason that you have two applications before you instead of one [1:17:27] is because the property loops around like this [1:17:30] and has the public right of way of Logan Circle that makes a you. [1:17:33] And because this inner portion isn't [1:17:35] contiguous to the outer portion, we had to do two applications. [1:17:39] All of the property is zoned I too heavy industrial has been [1:17:42] for quite some time. [1:17:43] It's all on the Upper West Side overlay. [1:17:46] We are asking to go to MRC three [1:17:49] and there are some conditions associated with that. [1:17:52] I know in briefing there was a question [1:17:54] about or a comment about why we're choosing MRC three, [1:17:58] and the reason is because of the way that the density [1:18:02] works out. All of these parcels are separate right [1:18:03] now, and candidly, probably [1:18:05] some of them will continue to be separate in the future. [1:18:07] And so when you start, [1:18:08] when you look at the density on the overall, [1:18:11] it's significantly below MRC three. [1:18:14] But when you start looking at individual parcels, [1:18:16] we start creeping up into into densities that are above that. [1:18:20] And I'm happy to answer any questions on that [1:18:22] from a development scope perspective. [1:18:24] On the outer loop area, which is the first application [1:18:27] Z 2607 that is going to be all nonresidential development. [1:18:33] It's about 900,000ft. [1:18:34] That's either existing proposed for adaptive reuse. [1:18:40] There's a variety of kind of office flex event parking. [1:18:44] There's actually an existing parking structure [1:18:45] located here today that will remain a new office building. [1:18:49] That's what's proposed along the outer loop. [1:18:52] And the impetus for [1:18:53] the zoning was really the inner loop portion where [1:18:56] similar to the works phase one, [1:18:58] they want to incorporate a multi-family development. [1:19:01] And so if you're looking at this plan [1:19:03] close to the Chattahoochee frontage, this building [1:19:06] you see in yellow as a proposed multifamily building, [1:19:08] and the thought is to provide for one multifamily building [1:19:12] with adaptive reuse in the middle [1:19:14] and then the potential to have a second [1:19:16] multifamily building down the road [1:19:18] if if market conditions and demand supports it. [1:19:22] And overall, that's it's about 1,000,000.5ft [1:19:26] total of development in here. [1:19:28] Overall, the two applications together are 2.3 5,000,000ft [1:19:32] in total development. [1:19:33] And again, that's over 36 acres. [1:19:36] We worked with Underwood [1:19:38] Hills and MPD both recommended approval. [1:19:41] They did recommend [1:19:42] more conditions that are in your staff report. [1:19:45] Specifically, they had a condition [1:19:48] asking for support for a [1:19:50] or to not oppose a proposed shuttle [1:19:52] to the extent that they wanted to propose that. [1:19:55] And I think staff was not comfortable with that being in the conditions. [1:19:58] There was a condition about providing Underwood [1:20:01] Hills a copy of our SAP application. [1:20:03] This is in the Upper West Side overlay. [1:20:05] So it's they're going to get a copy anyway. [1:20:07] But again, I think that staff found that to be duplicative. [1:20:11] And then the only other condition [1:20:12] that is not included in the staffs recommendation, [1:20:16] the neighborhood included a site plan condition as opposed to [1:20:20] the density condition. [1:20:21] So the condition. [1:20:23] Let's see what condition ended up being condition number four, [1:20:27] which talks about the aggregate floor [1:20:29] area ratio of the properties, [1:20:30] shall not exceed a certain amount. [1:20:32] Rather than having a site plan condition. [1:20:34] And Miss Holmes can speak to this, her concern was having [1:20:38] to administer 800 site plan amendments, [1:20:42] minor site plan amendments over the course of the time, [1:20:45] and so the proposal instead [1:20:47] was instead of having a site [1:20:48] plan condition, why don't we have a density condition? [1:20:52] Because really a lot of the concerns [1:20:53] and you can see this reflected in the conditions. [1:20:56] A lot of the concerns from the community were we don't want to be the next 14th [1:21:00] and how mill we don't want all these high rise buildings. [1:21:03] That's why you see the height limit. [1:21:04] That's why you see the limitation. [1:21:07] So I think the updated condition will be better [1:21:10] for staff to administer, [1:21:12] and I think meets the spirit of what was requested. [1:21:14] But, you know, in full disclosure, they are that [1:21:17] those are the differences. [1:21:18] We would ask that you support this application. [1:21:21] Both applications obviously vote on them separately. [1:21:24] Another thing I should mention, for those that are familiar [1:21:27] with this area, the Woodall Trail comes through here [1:21:29] and actually goes through the site and connects up [1:21:31] through the Silver Comet connector. [1:21:33] So it really makes this site a great location [1:21:36] for a more mixed use, less industrial scope. [1:21:40] And then just one other thing. [1:21:42] It was mentioned in the briefing what the uses are today. [1:21:46] The uses that are there today are uses like showrooms, [1:21:49] offices. [1:21:49] There's an event area, [1:21:51] there's some storage for furniture places, [1:21:54] but it's not a manufacturing industrial scope of use [1:21:57] that's there today. Some of its vacant. [1:22:00] So with that I'll reserve any time for rebuttal. [1:22:02] Thank you, thank you. [1:22:04] Is there anyone else who would like to speak [1:22:06] in support at this time? [1:22:08] And is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition? [1:22:13] Okay. And does the applicant [1:22:15] have any additional comments to make at this time? [1:22:19] So we will enter deliberation? [1:22:20] I've got a question. [1:22:22] I think thinking about this further, [1:22:25] the aggregate [1:22:28] far across the properties. [1:22:31] So the zoning would be across individual properties. [1:22:37] But to me it seems like the aggregate far [1:22:41] is really conditioned on having a common owner, [1:22:44] because if ownership, [1:22:48] you know, if parcels were sold off, [1:22:51] how do you enforce an aggregate far across the properties [1:22:55] when they're not potentially under the same owner [1:22:59] via unified Development Plan, which I'm sure [1:23:02] he'll will be applying for [1:23:03] when she goes to the SAP process, are okay. [1:23:06] Thank you. That makes sense. Okay. [1:23:10] Other other questions or comments? [1:23:14] Okay. I'm prepared to hear a motion then. [1:23:17] Madam chair, with respect to [1:23:18] case number Z 20 607, [1:23:22] I move that this board acceptance finding a fact. [1:23:26] Second motions been made properly seconded. [1:23:29] All in favor, say aye. Opposed. [1:23:31] Motion passes. [1:23:33] Madam chair, with respect to case number [1:23:35] Z 20 607, I move that this board send forth [1:23:39] a recommendation of approval with conditions [1:23:42] as found on page [1:23:46] five of the staff report [1:23:48] dated August 6th, 2026. [1:23:51] Second motions been made and properly second day. [1:23:53] Of all in favor, say aye. Opposed. [1:23:54] Nay, a motion passes, [1:23:58] madam chair, with respect to case number Z 20 608, [1:24:02] I move that its borders after finding a fact. [1:24:05] Second [1:24:07] mesh has been made and probably seconded. [1:24:08] All in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. [1:24:10] A motion passes, Madam Chair, with the two case [1:24:14] number Z 20 608. [1:24:17] I move that this board center for the recommendation [1:24:19] of approval with the conditions found on page five of the staff [1:24:23] report dated August 6th, 2026. [1:24:27] Second motions been made and properly seconded. [1:24:30] All in favor say aye and opposed. [1:24:32] Nay, a motion passes. [1:24:38] And can I get a motion? [1:24:43] Motion to adjourn. [1:24:45] Thank you. And.