1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:10,080 Okay, I've got uh 5:' uh 52025 Attica City Board of Works and 2 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:16,640 Safety. Go ahead and call the meeting to order. If the clerk would please do roll 3 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:23,480 call. Uh Chris Gayler present. Andy Smart present. Mr. Larry Grant present. 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:29,199 Clerk treasurer Joanne Bradwater not 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:32,679 present. and attorney Mallerie Redland is not present. 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Uh, does everybody have a chance to look at the meetings uh minutes from the last 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:42,040 meeting? 56. 8 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:49,559 Yes. I'll make a motion we approve the minutes from previous meeting and I'll 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:53,559 second. Have a motion, a second. All in favor? I. 10 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:06,400 Uh, are there any citizens petitions? Is that Can I speak? That's 11 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:10,640 you. Please state your name. Tony Crane. And I I'm on behalf of my mother's 12 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:15,200 property and I I hope I'm going through the proper channels of what I'm supposed 13 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:19,759 to be doing because I I talked to the Mickey and her crew and I talked to 14 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,759 Larry, talked to Eric, and I I got all the answers that I needed. Everybody was 15 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:28,320 cooperative. I appreciate everybody's answers. They just weren't to my liking, 16 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:33,119 I guess. I'll put it that way. So, I'm and I think I was told to come you guys 17 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:39,680 to uh appeal what I'm what I'm asking for. My mother has two 18 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:44,720 water what I don't know water mains. One is for her regular home and then she has 19 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:48,720 one for her just her sprinkling system. And I'm just trying to over the last 20 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,799 three or four years I've kind of been helping maintain her bills and taking 21 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:58,000 them. So I I wasn't real familiar with what went on before, but I know the 22 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:02,079 previous two years for her. Let me try back. What happens at the start of the 23 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,479 year, I think it's called long shrub. They call us and they say, "You need to 24 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,119 have your water turned on. We're going to come down blow your lines out." So I 25 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,160 called out the city. City right to work order. They come down, turn the water on 26 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:18,000 for me. Then the next day, Long and Sh comes and blows out. Um this past year 27 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:24,879 or this past time, they did it on right at the end of the month, the end of 28 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,840 March, maybe in April sometime. I use two gallons of water and they I'm 29 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:33,680 getting charged the minimum 68 bucks for that. My my concern with that is my 30 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:39,000 mother's always already paying one minimum with her house. The water is a 31 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:43,599 separate system. She's using two gallons. This has never came up in the 32 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:47,120 in the past two or three years for me when since I've been looking at this 33 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:51,120 because for some reason she gets her water bill for this particular one. She 34 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:55,599 got in one month sum at the end like in September is a $500 or $600 bill at that 35 00:02:53,840 --> 00:03:01,120 time. So I'm not sure if she was charged a minimum all that time. But what I'm 36 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:04,159 asking for is and I think honestly I think she's probably the only property 37 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:09,000 in Attica. So we're not talking about a lot of people. I think what I'm asking 38 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:13,040 is that if if in the future you're going to read meters all 39 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:16,640 the time. I thought you know the sprinkling starts at whatever I didn't 40 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:21,760 think they would read the meter. What is it? June 1st for June, July, August. 41 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:26,800 Well, they take a read on when they go turn it on. Okay. Um, and if that's the 42 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,959 case in the future, then I will make sure that I don't have the people come 43 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,080 down from Lafayette to turn that on and I have to turn on the water early 44 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:37,280 because I'm not even using it now. It's just they call said we're setting up. 45 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,360 They they do mine and they do the Harrison properties and that's I think 46 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,560 that's the only ones they do. So, I'm kind of felt like I was at their mercy 47 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:49,200 that we're coming down. We need to do it. Uh if if that has in the future if 48 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,280 that happens, I'll tell them I can't do it now. I'm going have to turn the water 49 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:55,040 on later. You're going have to come down and do it. What I'm asking for then is 50 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:58,400 that for this bill and my next bill, which is obviously I'm not going to have 51 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:02,959 any water for that one either to to those to those fees get waved. Um just 52 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:08,159 for those two things in the in the future, I'll make sure that not not turn 53 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:12,159 it on. Um but like I said, she's going to get charged $70 for two months of 54 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:17,440 using no water when she's already paying a minimum on her on her own property. 55 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,959 Um, so I feel like she's she's paying two 56 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:26,080 minimums. Um, as far as the consumption goes, can 57 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,759 they cons convert her just to one meter? Well, I was told when they set this up, 58 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,880 now I'm going by I'm trying to because, you know, my dad's not here anymore to 59 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:36,880 tell me what was going on, but they said don't do that because then you're you 60 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:41,680 don't pay sewer. I'm not paying. Is that Does that make sense? I'm not paying It 61 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:45,680 does make sense. Okay. So that was at that time when this set up it was like 62 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:50,600 you it's better to have two lines but for June, July and August you don't pay 63 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:55,040 sewer extra on sewer anyway because you get sprinkling 64 00:04:52,880 --> 00:05:01,600 privileges. So they they estimate your sewer for June, July and August. Am I am 65 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:05,840 I right about that Mickey? So it it's it's moot point really well but for 66 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,840 those three months anyway. Well the bill basically just it doesn't even have it 67 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:14,320 has water and tax. That's all I'm getting charged for anyways. But it's 68 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:18,880 for two gallons of water, 70 bucks. I just think that and I'm gonna get the 69 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:21,520 same thing next month. And I just like I said, it's we're not talking a bunch of 70 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:26,080 people. I think we're probably talking about one family. Um and I'm just going 71 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:30,280 to ask that to get waved for those two months. And then I'm going to make sure 72 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:34,000 that next year that it it doesn't start until if if you guys are going to read 73 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:38,479 me because I think even you mentioned to me Larry um something about they don't 74 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,880 for sprinkling they don't read the meters right now. Is it when you sent me 75 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,639 that text or sent that text to Kaylee something about 76 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Yeah. I don't remember exactly why you said well if if you don't don't worry 77 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:55,039 about it till June I'd had to pay back I'd had May 78 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:59,280 April and May in June. I mean, the clock starts whenever you have it turned on, 79 00:05:57,039 --> 00:06:03,120 okay, for your minimum billing, whether you use it 80 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:07,440 or not. It's It's like I told you, if you go rent a car, you're paying for it 81 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,720 even if it's parked in your driveway. And it's kind of the same thing. But if 82 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:14,240 they're not reading the beavers, that's what I'm You said something about they 83 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:19,759 don't read them until starting in June. Now, that I don't know, but they it'll 84 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:23,919 be read monthly. If it's turned on, they should go read it even even for 85 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:29,199 sprinkling. Yeah. Okay. Yep. because they they don't the guys that are out 86 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:33,039 reading don't differentiate between correct me if I'm wrong they don't 87 00:06:30,919 --> 00:06:37,199 differentiate between this meter and that meter to them it's just another 88 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:44,880 meter that's on their list to go read okay and once it's active once it's 89 00:06:40,039 --> 00:06:49,440 activated then when the um gun is ready you know being ready for Zach or Chuck 90 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:54,960 or whoever to go out and read it pulls in every active account so so I I 91 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,880 basically I triggered that by telling you to turn it on. Yes. And I was 92 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,759 triggered by them telling me that turn on. And like I said, I've done this in 93 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,960 the past and I've called down and I turned it on. I've never had this in 94 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:11,039 before because I always got bill at the end of the cycle. So maybe I was getting 95 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:14,880 charged. I just never knew it. But my my point being is I I was unaware of it. I 96 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:18,080 if that's going to be what the case is going forward, then I'll make sure and 97 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:24,240 not do it next year. And if I do, then I'm it's under my I'll I'll have to pay 98 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:29,599 for it then. I kind of unaware of this. And Tony, if there's a two listed there, 99 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:32,759 that meter would read in hundreds. Is that correct? 100 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,120 WW2, is that what you're saying for the code? When you keep saying two gallons 101 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,599 were used. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it says consumption two. Okay, that would be 102 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:49,840 200. Okay. Well, she I mean, basically, they did they they she's got five cycles 103 00:07:47,919 --> 00:07:53,120 and they turn them on and just watch the cycle go through one time. So yeah, two 104 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:59,840 gallon may have been a lot more than that. 200 gallon. 105 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:06,440 So I mean I because I think the minimum is is 106 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:06,440 what 3,000 gallons. 107 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:14,000 So I just like I said my my point being is she's she's getting charged I feel 108 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:18,879 like two minimums for one household. And I 109 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:22,800 just if if not I'll I'll it's a lesson learned and I'll I'll handle it next 110 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:29,919 year. But if you can accommodate that, I'd appreciate it. How much is it, Tony? 111 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Uh her bill this month is 6815 for um up until April 16th. It it it says from 112 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:41,919 9:30 of 24, which is probably when we have shut off 416 25. So I'm sure 516 113 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,560 I'm going to get another bill for that same amount. And 114 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:52,240 I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I just just, you know, I don't 115 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,760 necessarily have a problem with giving me the credit just to next year, next 116 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:02,240 year, you'll know. Right. Well, I mean, absolutely. And I mean, I it'll be on 117 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,560 the company that comes down and tells me said, "Hey, we got to do it now and say, 118 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,120 I'm not going to do it." Right. Right. You do it all when I turn the water on. 119 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:13,200 And so, I mean, I I'm okay with waving at this time. If whatever you guys 120 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:18,320 think, what's your opinion? I'm I'm fine with that, too. 121 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:25,760 Is that a motion? I'll make a motion. I'll second. All in favor? I I 122 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Okay. And I apologize for the the trouble. Um but it is what it is. It's 123 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,680 kind of, you know, you got you got an 85y old mother, you know, kind of right 124 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,920 cracking at me a little bit and she just says, "You jacked on that water bill?" 125 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,560 It's like go back and be a hero now. She 126 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,760 probably didn't realize what she was paying for either. You know, she's the 127 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,800 one kind of brought this to my attention. She said, "I'm going I got 128 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,399 two here and I've got church 70 bucks." I like I said, I plan on a fee 129 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,839 throughout the whole year, but I didn't I didn't think it would be this early. 130 00:09:55,839 --> 00:10:01,839 So, I appreciate the next two months and I I'll I'll handle from now on and I'm 131 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,880 sorry about the trouble. No problem. No problem at all. Thanks for coming 132 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:11,040 in. All right. Okay. And Mickey, I think that's 133 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,320 automatically deducted and it's probably too late for this month. So, I don't 134 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,760 know how you just let me know what's easiest for you guys and I'll I'll 135 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,600 handle it. So, that way we have to credit it over to something else. We can 136 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:24,560 or whatever. So, I don't want to cause you guys any more 137 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:31,480 trouble. Yeah. Because it would have been taken out today. Today, I noticed 138 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,480 today. 139 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,720 That's how I keep it from getting disconnected. 140 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,720 That's so it's so much easier to have it 141 00:10:40,079 --> 00:10:46,160 automatically taken out. You looked at you know what I'm talking about her line 142 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:51,560 as far is that a one inch line too by the way for the sprinkling system. Not 143 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:57,440 for sure because I think I'm sure it 144 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:03,040 probably is because of what the minimum is. I mean the minimum is like 64 bucks. 145 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,200 So I I I I would want to make sure that be three quarter, right? The uh well the 146 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:11,920 three quarters it cuts it down considerably. Yeah, the three quarter 147 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:17,360 and 5/8 is like 20ome dollars and when you jump to the one inch it's 148 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:21,040 $60 something. Does it make any difference what this code is? I mean 149 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:26,079 does does that distinguish whether it's a one inch line as opposed to something 150 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:33,200 else? It says like all my per says W1, this says W2. Is that I think the W2 is 151 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:38,399 it's just a second water line. Yeah. Okay. Well, I just I I would if it's not 152 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,680 too much trouble, somebody can look at that to see if that is make sure that is 153 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,680 a one in line. on. 154 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Yeah, it took me a little studying to figure out if you look at that ordinance 155 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:03,519 that that outlines how much the minimum bill is for each one. It's a little bit 156 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:08,160 convoluted. The only thing I can figure is is the larger, and correct me if I'm 157 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:12,959 wrong, the larger meter that you have, the more capacity you have. So 158 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:18,720 therefore, you know, if you've got a a business that's using a lot of water, 159 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:23,200 uh you're going to want that larger meter. You don't want to be restricted. 160 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Correct. And so if if if you're running a I don't know, some place that a 161 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:36,200 restaurant that uses a lot of water, you wouldn't want that 5/8 meter in there. 162 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:36,200 You'd want something larger, I guess. 163 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:44,880 Okay, we'll go ahead and move forward. Uh department heads, Mr. Swank. I don't 164 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:50,880 have anything. Wow. None at all. Nothing at all. 165 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:56,560 Okay. Chief Little is not here. Chief Miller is not here. Uh I don't list any 166 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,760 unfinished business. We'll go ahead and move on to utility 167 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:08,480 credits. One. Everything is correct. All right. I'll make a motion we approve 168 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:12,360 utility credits. Oh, second. All in favor? I I 169 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:23,200 payroll ledger. Anything we could Mickey? 170 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Anything? I'll make a motion we approve payroll ledger. I'll second. Motion in a 171 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,360 second. All in favor? I I. 172 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:39,279 There are no disconnects tonight. Uh claims. Has everybody had a chance to 173 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:46,600 look at claims? Yes. I'll make a motion. And I'll second. Have a motion to 174 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,600 second. All in favor? I 175 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:57,800 And there is a second sheet here. I should note that I guess 176 00:13:55,839 --> 00:14:03,360 additional. Yeah. Doesn't look like anything out of 177 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:08,000 the order. Fill that in without claims. All right. Or do you want a second 178 00:14:05,079 --> 00:14:11,480 motion? Is it I think that's good. 179 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,680 You want to make a second? I'll make a second motion. Yeah, let's go ahead and 180 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:23,399 just make sure we do our eyes. Okay. And I'll second that. Have a motion and a 181 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:31,680 second to approve the additional claims. And I call for 182 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,680 vote. I 183 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,040 I passes. 184 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:44,160 Uh, no additional miscellaneous business to be 185 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:49,120 heard. Next meeting is Tuesday, June 3rd at 5:00 p.m. We have a motion to 186 00:14:46,839 --> 00:14:54,639 adjurnn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn and I'll second. All in favor? I 187 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:54,639 adjourned.