[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:09] Thank you, Lord, for this new day and for each day that you give us. Help us to use the [0:15] day as you give us wisely. Help us to make good decisions that will make a difference [0:19] in a positive way. As we go through this meeting today, I pray that you will help us to make [0:24] good decisions for everybody we represent. Forgive us where we fall short and in some [0:30] in Jesus' name pray, amen. [0:37] Okay. [0:38] Do we have any public comments? [0:43] I don't think we have anybody signed up for public comments, Mr. [0:46] Okay. [0:47] I've got the minutes. [0:47] I'm meeting 24.47. [0:50] Do I have a motion to approve? [0:52] Second. [0:54] Second. [0:54] I've got a motion and a second. [0:56] All in favor say aye. [0:57] Aye. [0:58] Chair votes aye. [1:17] Okay, first time we have is considered resolution authorizing tax abatement with Crescent by [1:26] I'd ask someone to give a real quick email. [1:43] Introduce ourselves, the team, give a brief overview of the project, and then here to answer [1:49] any questions you all might have. [1:52] By way of introduction, my name is Patrick Connors. [1:54] I am a manager in cold site selection and then as an advisory group and consultant [1:59] think to the company, Chevron, that thing is a very exciting opportunity under a press [2:06] and body manufacturing facility. So I'll let the Chevron team introduce themselves. [2:11] Hi, thank you. [2:12] Hi, good afternoon, commissioners. Deli Cole with Chevron Commercial Lead, supporting [2:16] hydrogen projects on the West Coast and Gulf Coast. I want to talk a little bit. [2:21] I'm joined by my colleague, Darren Carbiop, as well, who supports the project from [2:26] commercial standpoint. I want to talk a little bit about Project Labrador, but [2:30] before I do, I think it's important to use the context on how Chevron arrived at [2:34] this opportunity. So you all know that we've traditionally been organized [2:38] around our conventional business, oil products and gas. And about four years [2:42] ago, we set up our new energy business. And the sole imperative of that [2:47] business was twofold. One, to lower the carbon intensity of our existing [2:51] operations and then to establish build and then ultimately accelerate these lower carbon [2:57] energy offerings. [2:58] And so Project Labrador is an important keystone and achieving that is really helps to build [3:04] a lower carbon hydrogen and ammonia ecosystem here in the Gulf Coast. [3:09] And so on that point, so what is the project? [3:13] The project is essentially taking natural gas from our Permian basin asset and it's [3:19] putting it through an autothermal reforming process. [3:22] Through that process, we take the CO2, [3:24] we sequester about 95% of it, [3:27] and we bury that permanently [3:29] beneath the Earth's surface, about 8,000 feet. [3:32] We have to take the hydrogen, add a nitrogen input, [3:36] put it through a blue ammonia synthesis process, [3:39] and essentially cool that down, liquefy it, [3:42] store it in double walled tanks [3:44] at a marine site location, [3:46] which is about six miles away from the main site via pipeline and then we put that on large vessel [3:52] carriers for export to international markets like Europe and Asia. So that's the crux of what we're [3:59] doing in the project itself. The opportunity is about five billion dollars of estimated cap [4:08] expend, a hundred net new jobs at the time of full commissioning when the project comes online [4:14] which we're estimating is in 2032. We're anticipating that we'll start construction in 2027. [4:20] At the height of construction, we'll have about 1,700 construction jobs. As I previously mentioned, [4:26] 100 net new jobs, really supporting everything from equipment sourcing, wetland evaluation, [4:33] as well as construction and the like. I think the real opportunity though, [4:37] as I look at Project Labrador, as I see it as a gateway to opening up a brand new workforce [4:43] and opportunities to support neighboring disciplines as you think about the new energy's offerings of the future. [4:51] The other thing I'll note is that Chevron, as is a leader, has been identified through the Department of Energy High Velocity Hub, [4:58] which is, again, a hub supported by the Department of Energy that really looks to build up and establish what is a very nascent space. [5:07] and so Chevron is prepared to lead in this effort and we are considering Port Arthur in the [5:14] surrounding areas to sanction the project. This is a highly competitive opportunity and so we'll [5:19] continue to engage across multiple sites to look for the very best opportunity to bring the project [5:27] first to final investment decision and then ultimately standing up the project to be [5:34] I'm happy to entertain your questions. [5:38] What is the product used for in Europe? [5:40] You said you'd be shipping out. [5:42] Yeah, coal-fired power plants, mainly. [5:45] So when you think about lower carbon offerings, [5:47] oftentimes people think about electrification. [5:49] And we're really looking to hydrogen and ammonia for industries [5:53] that where electrification just isn't feasible. [5:56] And so when you think about hydrogen or ammonia, [5:58] you would use it in coal-fired power plants. [6:00] you would use it in cement, manufacturing, plastics, other sort of heavy industries, sir. [6:11] Thank you, Daly. [6:14] For your consideration for approval, within the 312 agreement terms [6:18] would be a 10-year tax abatement for 100% of that term, which has the agreement which [6:27] mirrors that of which the county approved on May 27th, and closely mirrors that on July 29th. [6:37] We will subsequently be going to the navigation district next week to seek their approval as well. [6:43] I will note that this is just for the first 10 years of operation. [6:49] For during seed width, we project roughly $20 million in tax revenue. [6:54] We can go directly to DD7. [6:57] And then from years 11 through 20, we're looking at roughly $95 million in tax revenue that would go to DD7 as well. [7:07] from a net new revenue standpoint, so roughly $9.5 million a year once the [7:12] abatement rolls off. Again, this is a very highly competitive project. We're [7:18] still evaluating a short list of sites across multiple states. So, you know, we've [7:26] been, our mandate is every dollar counts to getting this project greenlit, [7:31] and so your approval today will get us to that. So thank you for the [7:36] consideration and during any questions we'd be happy to answer them but where's [7:42] this facility going to be located? [7:47] So the main site is going to be located in [7:51] Jefferson County. Do you have the location? Yeah, so Chevron owns approximately 350 [7:59] acres here in Port Arthur along the highway 73 so it is like literally [8:07] opposite to the Motiva refinery so it's still undeveloped but it's wetlands so [8:14] we want to take advantage of that ownership. We've been owning that land [8:17] for about 100 years or so by now and this would be a great opportunity for [8:23] them to develop it into this Buomonia project. Essentially it's bordered by [8:28] GT Logistics, the Chevron Phillips project and Lativa intersection of 92 and 73. [8:39] And then we have a right to buy a smaller piece of land on the Sabine River where we want to build the terminal and the storage. [8:51] and that land is like water-facing where we would like to be loading the tankers [8:57] with a liquefied blue ammonia. [9:02] We [9:09] approve the resolution authorizing tax [9:11] payment with Crescent by ULLC as recommended. [9:17] Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. [9:22] Chair votes aye. Motion carried. Thank you. Appreciate y'all's time. Good luck. [9:27] Thank you, gentlemen. [9:31] Ladies and gentlemen, sorry. [9:34] Next item, receive and open read the names of responding firms to request for qualifications for auditing services. [9:42] So, as you guys are aware, we went out for proposals for auditing services or requests for qualifications. [9:51] We've been using the same firm for a while. [9:53] There's been some various things. We'd like to see if we can't get a little better response. So [9:59] Let's see. What do we have four [10:07] packages? [10:08] The first one is from Charles Reed and associates [10:21] copies [10:30] second one [10:32] Mitchell font note CPAs. [10:50] They're out of Fort Nature. Let's see [10:56] Charles Reed is out of Port Arthur [10:59] See next is [11:00] Paulins and Cohen out of Beaumont. Paulins and Cohen, P-O-L-L-E-N-S, and Cohen, C-O-H-E-N. [11:14] Certified Public Accountants. [11:21] And then last is Wathen, Deshaun, and Junker out of [11:27] Port Arthur. [11:32] So Tim's online now. [11:42] A proposal from Wathen, Deshaun, and Junker. [11:45] At this time, I'd like to, what I'd like to do is turn this over to a committee to review [11:54] and come back to make a recommendation to the board and I'll go ahead and almost state [12:02] it publicly. [12:03] I am going to not be a part of this committee, no, we didn't take myself out of the selection [12:09] process because I will tell you my life works for one of the firms that submitted. [12:12] it. So I will not be a part of this. I'm going to leave it, I'm going to put Alex in [12:18] charge, let her make the decision since she's our in-house accountant and let her pick a [12:24] committee to work with her to make the decision. [12:28] The board has any comments? I don't mind. [12:32] I just want to let you guys know publicly that I'm going to excuse myself from this [12:36] decision process. [12:40] Okay. Appreciate it. [12:42] You need a motion to table this for further review? Yes sir. So moved, Mr. Chairman. [12:49] You got a motion and a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Chair votes aye. [12:55] Motion carried. All right, pay request number two, Norman Highway [12:59] constructors for improvements to Blocks Bow Ditch Phase two. [13:13] It's for June 14th or the end of this month, July 25th. [13:19] And it's mainly for installing about 210 layer feet of 7.5 boxes excavation that goes along with that traffic control and a little bit of concrete work for the casting plate around the pipelines that are there. [13:37] 32% of the contract time is 29% of the work, which is right on schedule. And then as this next day request phone, they'll have even more boxes, which is the majority of the price of it will skyrocket next time. [13:51] We're anticipating them being way ahead of the schedule. [14:00] So for a total price, $369,407 and [14:13] a little message, yeah. [14:15] Second. [14:16] Got a motion and a second. [14:17] All in favor say aye. [14:19] Aye. [14:19] We have both time. [14:20] Motion carried. [14:22] One quick question for you, Garrett. [14:24] When do you think there'll be a cross, [14:29] and they found a communication decline in the road bank that we [14:44] had about six lines that [14:45] are dead in there and one active line. [14:48] So we found that as we're having to come [14:56] to a section of the 10-mile plot, so you have [14:58] to build the bottom first. [15:00] Then you build the walls in the top, so it adds a couple days and curing common rent. So, hopefully, I would say three or four weeks will be across and temporary payment. [15:16] We were hoping to have it open by the time. [15:23] So, I think we're kind of on schedule on that. It may just be a one or two week on that. So, they're on notice to get that right open. [15:33] We had to close it off sooner than a [15:40] breach in one of the natural gas lines will distribution one [15:46] of the guys set a water pump underneath it [15:50] Coincidentally put a whole one in we you know fire department police all that come out there [15:54] So at that point we make you call and go ahead and close the road is it was not team-safe for public safety [16:02] So that elongated the duration that we [16:08] just hadn't had a chance to ask you then I got a question got questioned last night [16:18] I had somebody stop me at the grocery store last night and ask me that question. [16:21] I was like, uh... [16:23] I'll tell them two to three months. [16:30] Maybe they'll be happily surprised. [16:35] Next item, consider pay request number two, [16:37] the Epic Engineering W Industries for Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition [16:41] or the SCADA system. [16:42] So he's got that. [16:44] Kirby? [17:30] No, Mr. Chairman. [17:32] Thank you. [17:32] Second. [17:33] You made the payment here. [17:34] You [17:37] got a motion and a second, all in favor you say aye. [17:40] Aye. [17:41] Chair votes aye. [17:42] No, thank you. [17:43] All right. [17:44] The next item. [17:45] Consider approval of certificate of completion and affidavit of warranty for the Santerrey [17:49] sewer line relocation at the Port Acres wastewater treatment plant. [17:53] This is the project out there at 365 for the levy race. [18:00] Good afternoon gentlemen. If you remember back, it's been a while since I was here to discuss [18:06] this project about a month, month and a half ago. We had our final walkthrough and put together [18:12] a punch list for the contractor to basically handle a lot of cleanup items that needed [18:18] to be taken care of on the project. Over the past month, month and a half, they've [18:25] completed that punch list. One of the last things that they lagged was getting the red line drawings [18:31] so I could produce an as-built copy of the plans for both y'all and the city of Waterford. Since then [18:38] they have gotten me those plans. I'll put together the as-built record drawings and as of this [18:44] meeting the city has a copy of those record drawings. So this is just the last step [18:51] and accepting the project. The line work itself has been functional and in service for, again, [18:59] over a month and a half at this point. There's been no issues out there. It's just been a cleanup. [19:04] They had to redress the ditch after they addressed it initially. They had to respray [19:08] the hydromulch. They had some surface restoration over at PARV just to make that property owner [19:18] happy and they've done all that work. [19:25] Thank you. [19:28] I move that we approve sort of [19:31] certificate of completion in half a day of warranty for the sanitary sewer line [19:35] and relocation of record wastewater treatment plant as recommended. [19:41] Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. [19:45] Chair votes aye. Motion carried. [19:48] Now the next one follows right behind that consider final payment and release [19:52] the retainage to triangle civil services for the Santeria Serial Line relocation [19:56] at Port Acres wastewater treatment plant. As Alan stated this is nothing more [20:02] than just the release of the 10% retainage you withheld just to ensure [20:07] the project was complete. They attacked all of the substantial [20:12] completion punch list items and we recommend the all-release retainage [20:18] to them at this point. The total amount of retainage to be released by [20:23] the district is $146,821.50 and that is payable to Triangle Civil Services. [20:39] Second. [20:40] Motion and second. [20:42] All in favor say aye. [20:44] Chair votes aye. [20:45] Motion carried. [20:46] Thank you. [20:47] And for the board's information that that cost is being covered through our G.L.L. [20:52] contract. [20:53] So the state will be paying those costs but we'll get reimbursed. [20:56] We'll pay them and they'll reimburse us. [20:58] So that's covered. [21:00] Sorry, they already paid us for that. We just got to pay it out now. I was corrected. [21:06] Alright, [21:09] consider order of election. So we have two members up for election due to the [21:15] law change that we worked on this year. The two members who are not here. Mr. [21:24] Champagne and Mr. Moses, Mr. Champagne is on vacation. Mr. Moses is doing kickoff [21:29] stuff at the school today and could not make it so but they are both up for [21:33] election we need to call for the order and authorize execution of the form [21:41] and that's be asking for an election on November the 4th [21:48] so we need a motion [21:49] need a motion ordering the election and authorizing the signature of the [21:54] of the form. [21:56] So moved, Mr. Chairman. [22:00] Emotion in a second. [22:01] All in favor say aye. [22:04] Chair votes aye. [22:05] Motion carried. [22:07] All right. [22:08] Summary. [22:11] The last meeting we were getting ready to go to DC. [22:14] We went to Washington. [22:16] We met with Mr. Belk. [22:18] We were supposed to be with General Kelly [22:19] and Mr. Fisher, Mr. Fisher being Mr. Belk's [22:22] replacement. Mr. Belk retired last week. But on Wednesday before we got there, Mr. Fisher and Mr. [22:29] General Kelly had to leave town due to some emergency issues they were sent out to review. We did talk [22:35] with Mr. Belk at length and with a couple of his staffers there. [22:42] And we were, [22:46] it was reiterated [22:47] numerous times that Port Author was in good shape. We'll be okay. Not so much for the other [22:54] projects, but they kept Sanport authors good. I believe that we are currently [23:00] trying to get a meeting with General Kelly and Mr. Fisher. We are encouraging [23:04] them to come here. [23:08] After they were not able to meet with us, there was a [23:11] discussion of the possibility of having a conference call or we go back to DC. I [23:17] believe this project is important enough that we shake their hand, we look [23:20] them in the eye and we tell them we still need this money. [23:25] So I suggest that we go to [23:27] D.C. when we got a chance and then somebody said, what if we get them to come down and [23:33] look at the project? I told the guys that's 100 times better than us going to D.C. which [23:42] is 100 times better than us having a conference call. So that's what we're working on right [23:47] now is to get them to come here. Last week, change of command occurred in Galveston, so [23:54] Colonel Blackmon is no longer in charge in Galveston. Now we have Colonel Dake. We had [24:01] a meeting scheduled for him to come here on the 18th, I believe it was 16th or 18th this [24:07] month, but that got moved to September. [24:14] Partially because while we were in D.C., the comment [24:17] was our question was asked have we had we met with General Walter out of Dallas [24:25] and what was his thoughts and some of the comments we're making and our response was we [24:29] have not met him yet he's been in charge for a year and he hasn't made it down here so now he's [24:34] going to be here in the next few weeks so he was encouraged to come down and visit his [24:42] the project that's the largest construction project going on in the United States right now [24:47] Since it's under his command, so he is trying to make his opportunity to get here. [24:55] So, we've got, we've kind of shaken a few trees lately. [24:59] Trying to keep this project moving forward. [25:01] The, everything's going well. [25:05] We had a little, little hiccup today, [25:08] and that CPKC is asking some pretty strange questions about, [25:12] and possibly wanting to reroute through the port area until we get that worked [25:17] out that projects kind of went on hold today for a couple weeks until we [25:23] figure out what's going to happen with the Kansas City Railroad down there. [25:27] Other than that things are moving forward we're trying to get another [25:30] like our goal right now is to get contract three which goes from the [25:36] end of Woodward Avenue to the port that section and construction in the [25:41] next six to nine months is our goal, to get that piece bid out first next year so it can [25:48] go to construction. [25:50] That means we're pushing pretty hard on some utility relocates and we'll be meeting, I'm [25:54] supposed to reach out this week and try to get a meeting with the City of Port Arthur [26:00] and a meeting with Judge Brannick and Commissioner Senegal to discuss county property and city [26:09] property that we need to acquire. We may have to do a little trading with them to get some [26:14] things where we need it for a route of ways, but I think we can do that pretty easily. [26:18] They've all been real, really easy to work with recently, both city and the county, [26:26] so we look forward to working with them on these issues. I think we can do something [26:30] that's beneficial to all of us. So that's that project. Anybody have any questions about [26:37] what's going on there right now. [26:41] Okay. Managers miscellaneous reports. Couple of [26:46] things. First of all, Mr. Will Thorn is here. Will is a lawyer with [26:53] Brandemort Law Firm. So Nathan was not able to be here today. Will has been with [26:58] him kind of off and on for five to ten years. And he's recently went back to [27:04] work with Nathan a couple weeks ago and Nathan's where he's buying, so we'll give him a shot. [27:16] I know that you've done some work with Chambers County and LNVA and a couple other places, [27:21] so he's got experience with our type of agency, so that's a good feeling to have back up [27:28] and not just have one person there now. [27:33] Next item. [27:49] Last night or yesterday we got the information from the tax office and [27:56] I have [27:57] run our tax worksheets. I need to start thinking about this. At our next meeting we will have [28:02] to set a tax rate and we'll talk about the preliminary budget at that time. What it is [28:09] on top you'll see last year's, what we decided to do last year's where we went [28:13] was zero percent increase. You can see the last year we went down 1.9 million in our [28:21] income from what we had the prior previous year. We [28:30] covered that basically with the interest [28:31] on our bank accounts. We was able to make up the difference on that and with weather [28:36] this year fairly well. The next page is if we stay with a zero percent increase this [28:43] year, we'll lose another 1.275 million out of our income. Here's the deal. Even though [28:51] our property values are going up, [28:56] our tax rate is based upon the taxes on the average [29:02] homesteaded property. Our district is in a very unique situation in that our average [29:11] homestead property only makes up about 20% of our tax. So if the tax has to go down on that 20% [29:20] to maintain, the rate is then applied to all the rest of our properties, including all the [29:26] industries and so forth, and it goes down on everybody. [29:32] I've talked to people in Orange County, [29:34] Drainage District, Drainage District 6, Treaty Bay Conservation District. They don't have this [29:39] problem because they're like 80-90% homesteaded values and if you hold the [29:44] 0% on those homesteaded value change the overall number really doesn't change [29:49] much because their property outside this is such as a smaller amount but [29:57] because ours is almost all based on [30:00] Our tax rate is based on 20% of our population. When that tax rate goes down on that 20%, it [30:06] applies to everybody else reducing our income. Now, what I've done here is I'll give you [30:11] 0%, 1%, 2%, 3, and 3.5. 3.5 is the maximum that we can go up according to state law. [30:20] So, and you'll see that at 3%, we lose about $38,000 from last year's income. And at 3.5%, [30:28] which is the maximum we're allowed by law, we actually make about $160,000 more than we made last [30:33] year. [30:37] I am open to suggestions from the board. We can make it on the zero. It'll be tight. [30:45] The big issue we've got is, you know, going with the zero percent and losing the million and a [30:48] quarter is two items. First of all, the four percent you instructed me to look at for [30:54] for salaries is going to increase our salary based, our cost of salaries plus [31:02] benefits that go with it right at just under a million dollars. [31:11] Also we have a [31:12] large number of projects that are grant projects that we went out for in 1920-21 [31:20] timeframe we made the applications that are now ready to go to construction. Our match on those [31:27] grant numbers is [31:33] going to hit where we're going to have one or two years where we've got a pretty [31:38] good output of our portion of the money to match those grants and then we'll go back down to where [31:44] we're kind of normal unless we continue to get grants like we have been. It's just kind of a [31:49] almost like a perfect storm where we're going to have all these projects rolling [31:54] But to spend this $100 million in grants, we've got to put our $15 to $20 million with [31:58] it to get that type of improvements. [32:00] It's a great leverage to be able to spend $15 million and get $120 million worth of work, [32:07] but you've got to have the $15 million and we can do it. [32:11] It's just going to be tight if we stay with a 0% increase. [32:17] I'm not saying yes or no which way we want to go. [32:21] So I just want you guys to think about it and the next board meeting will have a little [32:26] more discussion and I'll have the budget where we really look at it and flesh it out. [32:31] So I just need y'all to review my worksheets, you'll see if it says minus like last year [32:38] and then the last one's the only one that's a positive. [32:42] So think about that for me, I appreciate it. [32:45] And, like I said, that's where I've got as far as our budget is, I'm probably, we'll [32:53] be finished with the budget in Monday or Tuesday next week. [32:55] I've got just about everything else worked out, the trucks we've got to buy. [33:00] We're reducing the equipment purchase significantly from last year. [33:05] I think we're looking at two tractors. [33:09] One is a slow mower that our current slow mower is really just not safe for anybody [33:14] to be on. [33:15] And every time we use it, they have to do a bunch of welding on the arm and stuff to [33:18] put it back into service the next day. [33:20] So we need to get that out of service before somebody gets hurt. [33:25] And then we got one other tractor that needs to be replaced. [33:28] It's just old. [33:29] And other than that, we got a few trucks we're going to buy. [33:32] We don't have the mini-axes and the skid steers and things like that that we've [33:36] been buying the last two or three years. [33:38] So we're reducing some of our expenses there. [33:41] But with the SCADA system and then the grant projects, I feel like we need to, if at all [33:49] possible, maintain our income and not go down any just to make those projects work. [33:55] The SCADA system, just so you guys know, and I've said this before, that system was [34:00] put together in the early 90s. [34:02] It's running on equipment from the early 90s. [34:04] It's over 25, 30 years old, getting parts for it. [34:10] The system we've got now where we monitor all the pump stations is becoming almost impossible. [34:16] I appreciate the fact that you guys let us go out for a bit and get these projects rolling, [34:20] especially the SCADA system this year because three years ago, we got hit by lightning [34:24] and we were able to find parts, the way we found parts [34:27] and went and bought a bunch of old computers from high school to get the parts out [34:31] So those are becoming harder to find. [34:36] And so we need to come and move our SCADA system into the modern age and use it in parts that [34:41] we can apply to get required again. [34:43] And I appreciate y'all approving that and us going out for bid and it's under construction. [34:47] I paid a payment today on it, but it's critical that we get those things done in order for [34:53] us to stay on top of what we've got to do here. [34:56] So, just, that's pretty much what, as far as my manager's reports, anybody else got anything? [35:05] Brian? [35:07] Renee? [35:07] Terry? [35:10] Every one of these proposed rates that you have are less than our rate from last year. [35:16] Yes, sir. [35:17] Yes, sir. [35:18] That's because, like I said, the way it's calculated is you look at, of course, it's [35:24] an average resident's homestead, the third line from the bottom there, you see where [35:30] it says $423.12, that's where your percent change comes in. [35:36] So if the average homeowner, you'll see the second page where it's 1%, the 423 goes to [35:43] 427, that's a $4 increase, that's $4.23, which is 1% increase, and then that goes [35:51] back to calculate the rate. [35:57] That's the reason I said the average tax on the home that number [36:03] is applies to the average homesteaded property. I mean the highest increase on average price of [36:12] property is $14 a year. Yes sir. And so we I hate to see us run on a close to empty. I don't [36:23] like that so I like a little comfort zone and like I told you guys it's kind of a [36:31] perfect storm situation of these grants all coming in and ready to go to [36:35] construction right now and maybe [36:41] I'm wrong but that's a dollar 25 a month [36:46] right I would rather us be able to get those projects done construction work [36:50] I mean we got a lot of stuff going on and it's important that we have the [36:54] money to get them done. [36:56] Yes, sir. [36:58] That's just buying for it. [37:00] OK. [37:01] If anybody, if you want to talk to me individually [37:04] or if you want to discuss it, there [37:06] can't be a decision made today. [37:07] It's not on the agenda. [37:08] I just want you all to have the information [37:10] to think about over the next two weeks. [37:12] Two weeks from today I'll need to ask the question of which [37:14] rate are we going with so that we can get it published [37:17] and we can get the budget finished. [37:19] I'd like to give you all time to think about it [37:21] because I know it's not the easiest decision to make. [37:26] Okay. I have nothing for executive session. So, next is permits, Santana. [37:34] One [37:39] is listed as a company [37:45] with them. So, this is crossing this main sea canal. [37:52] It's an existing pipeline that they have. It's an, they found an anomaly during a big session that they were serving. [37:59] that normally have to do so they are putting in [38:19] what's their permit fee on that I [38:26] move that we approve the permit for [38:28] Santina interstate top-line LLC as recommended by staff [38:35] Emotion all in favor say aye chair votes aye motion carry [38:41] So they currently have a water intake structure crossing under 73 it's right by Savannah [38:51] It's been there for as long as I've been a lot of so I've had a lot of luck. [38:56] How many years it's been, but they're making an improvement. [38:58] He's actually involved in that. [39:00] It's three new lines that they're moving from well [39:17] made all our requirements. [39:19] So we're [39:23] in $70 [39:36] second, got a motion in a second. [39:39] All in favor say aye. [39:44] last one we have today is for but [39:52] it's a MDLH properties this is a 408 crossing [39:57] they went [40:01] it's a new earthen brand that'll have [40:10] any meets all of our [40:11] requirement [40:15] we recommend approval and they had to be $550 [40:27] second motion and the second all in favor say hi [40:31] Ah, Chair votes aye. [40:33] Motion carried. [40:34] The checks and purchase orders. [40:36] Do I have a motion to approve? [40:38] We'll move, Mr. Chairman. [40:39] A motion and a second. [40:41] All in favor say aye. [40:43] Aye. [40:44] Chair votes aye. [40:46] Any other business coming forward or boarded this time? [40:51] If not, do I have a motion to adjourn? [40:56] We'll move, Mr. Chairman. [41:00] Second. [41:01] Kind of motion. [41:02] In a second. [41:03] All in favor say aye. [41:06] So what happens if Coach Gamble votes against it this time, like he used to? [41:17] I [41:20] appreciate it everybody. Thank you for coming.