1 00:00:01,439 --> 00:00:11,759 Um, second place, Jennifer. Is she not here? I guess not. Good job, Jennifer. 2 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:17,279 » Um, third place, um, was Equity Bank, Shelby Bannon. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:20,279 » Y, congratulations. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,039 » Thank you. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:31,679 Congratulations to all of our winners and a huge thank you to everyone who 6 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:36,480 participated this year. Each arrangement I think added something special to our 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,640 downtown and we appreciate the time, creativity, and the care that went into 8 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:42,559 making our downtown beautiful. So, thank you very much. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,399 » Thank you. I'll >> give this to Jennifer. 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,320 » Thank you, >> Connie. Thank you for all you do in your 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:54,399 position as go Augusta director doing a fantastic job and thank you for 12 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:58,480 participating every year most of you >> and I I just want to thank everybody 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,680 that had something to do with planting the pots because I couldn't have picked 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:08,840 a first or second place. They were all good this year. Really appreciate it. 15 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Now, are there any visitors here that aren't here about something that's 16 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,640 already on the agenda? 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,159 Okay, we will move to our first item of 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,640 business, which is to conduct public hearings to 19 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:37,280 take public input and comments on the revenue neutral rate and the 2027 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:43,320 proposed budget. And I'm going to uh I've got a little thing I want to read 21 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,320 first. 22 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:51,920 I I was thinking about this over the weekend and I just I wrote down some 23 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:59,119 things. I want to express that uh I hope you all 24 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:04,960 actually took time to read the budget as the narratives that are included in this 25 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:10,640 budget explain the why and hows for the proposed expenditures 26 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:16,640 and our staff and council members have spent several hours and the staff has 27 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:22,319 spent days and days going over this budget looking for the best outcomes to 28 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:27,599 keep the services that our public expects and to not be wasteful of our 29 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:31,840 tax dollars. And when I say our tax dollars, 30 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:38,720 we all live here in town and we all pay taxes, too. So, just remember, 31 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:43,840 we're thinking of everybody, including ourselves. 32 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:48,319 We have the we the council have reserved the option that after this public 33 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:54,239 hearing tonight that we might have another workshop next week to see if we 34 00:02:50,720 --> 00:03:00,319 can adjust anything downward before say signing off on this budget. Uh we've 35 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:06,159 wrestled with this a couple times already, but maybe somebody tonight has 36 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:13,440 a better idea. And if you're going to speak tonight, 37 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:18,319 remember to be called on and then when you come up, state your name and your 38 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:25,360 address and then you'll be asked to keep your comments to five minutes or less. 39 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:30,239 So with that, I'm uh turning it over to staff for a presentation first. 40 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:34,640 Mayor and Council, as part of the presentation, uh what I'd like to walk 41 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:41,440 through first is just the process that is shown on the agenda. Um you had a a 42 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,799 new statute that went into place in the last couple of years. And so it's always 43 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:49,360 good to get a reminder because we don't do it very often, but explaining how the 44 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:54,560 uh new statute on the revenue neutral rate works. And so the process tonight 45 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,000 is um after we do our staff report presentation, we'll open the public 46 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:02,640 hearing to take public comment. and that is the public hearing on the revenue 47 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:07,040 neutral rate. Uh once we've taken all the public comments on that then we can 48 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:13,439 close the public hearing and there is a vote on the resolution. The resolution 49 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:17,919 is simply to exceed the revenue neutral rate which is what was published. You're 50 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:22,160 not specifying what budget you're adopting. You're not specifying what the 51 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:26,400 final amount is. you're specifying that you're planning to exceed, which was the 52 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:31,360 notice that went out to the county previously. Now, you still have the 53 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:36,880 ability uh once we get to the actual budget hearings to reduce the budget 54 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:41,120 from there, but you cannot exceed what was published. Uh but you do actually 55 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:46,560 have to take action on the resolution just saying that you plan to exceed the 56 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:51,840 revenue neutral rate. Um once that vote is taken, then you'll open the public 57 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:56,960 hearing on the budget itself and then take public comment, close that public 58 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:00,960 hearing and then you have the option to proceed with the budget tonight or as 59 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:05,600 you did last year and what was discussed during the budget work sessions was uh 60 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:10,320 potentially scheduling a follow-up session where you take the feedback uh 61 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:14,160 go back have a work session and discuss and then uh come back at the next 62 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,639 meeting and make your final vote. So that's the process that you followed 63 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,800 last year. Uh you don't necessarily have to follow that. You're able to proceed 64 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,960 with it tonight if you wish. But my recollection from the work sessions was 65 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:31,680 that the plan was to have one more session after this meeting, take the 66 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:38,000 public comments, and then have a final vote at the subsequent meeting. So uh if 67 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:41,039 there's no questions about process, then I'll go ahead and do staff's 68 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,600 presentation. Are you good with us moving to the presentation? 69 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,720 » Yeah. Okay, I will give the uh the presentation, provide everybody a 70 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:52,240 background of what's going on with the budget process, how the RNR stuff works, 71 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:59,960 and then once I'm done with the presentation, you can open the public 72 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:59,960 hearing and take public comment. 73 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Okay. So, mayor and council, one of the the first things that we uh talk about 74 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:12,720 in the budget every year is assess valuation. And um I'm going to do this 75 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:18,560 uh this is for the benefit of anybody typically working or watching at home if 76 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:22,479 we can get the YouTube uh fixed. We will try to get this recorded. If not, all of 77 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:28,960 this is in the packet anyway and we'll be able to to showcase it um online if 78 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:33,440 we get the recording fixed and then also uh at a subsequent meeting if you choose 79 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,479 to have an additional work session. So the first thing is our assessed 80 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:41,440 valuation. Assessed valuation is essentially your tax base. how much of 81 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:46,000 the property in town is taxable. And this chart just shows you the amount 82 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:51,360 over time. So you can see back in the 2018 time period, we were about 57 83 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:56,080 million. 57 million and some change. And in our most recent uh numbers from the 84 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,960 county, we're looking at a cess valuation of 90,530,000. 85 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Um, compared to 2026, that number was 87,8 86 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:16,400 sorry, 87,82,000. So, we had a valuation increase of about 87 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:23,919 2.7 million, which overall was a valuation change of about 3.11%. 88 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:27,759 Now overall that's tracking at at least on what they're forecasting 89 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:36,680 right now that's tracking a little bit lower than what inflation was but 3.1% 90 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,680 is the current valuation change number. 91 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:46,639 Now the mill levy is the actual tax rate. So the previous slide was showing 92 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:52,080 you how much property is taxable in the city of Augusta. This slide tells you 93 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:59,919 what is the rate that is being taxed. Uh what was published for this hearing was 94 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:06,639 a proposed mill levy of 59209. Last year's mill levy was 58398. 95 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:14,479 And so the published mill levy is slightly higher about 081 96 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:21,759 uh mills higher than last year's number. The revenue neutral rate is 56.298 97 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,479 compared to the published rate for this budget of 59209. 98 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:33,479 Now in the subsequent slides we'll talk about what the difference is between 99 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,479 those two rates. 100 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:42,399 So this slide shows you the uh the property tax dollars. You have five 101 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:49,120 property tax supported funds. So those are the ones that mill levy that taxes 102 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:54,959 uh property taxes are assessed to. Um you can see the difference between 2026 103 00:08:51,600 --> 00:09:00,399 budget and the 2027 budget. And uh I believe that there's I think 104 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:05,040 there's a typo on that 2026 one. I apologize. Um the the change was 105 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,680 248,000. I believe uh this was the 2026 budget 106 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:14,320 number until you made your changes at the hearing. It actually went down to 107 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:21,399 like 5.1 million. And I apologize. I thought I had that number updated in 108 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,399 this chart. The change was 248,848. 109 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:31,040 So you have an additional $248,000 of property taxes in the 2027 budget 110 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:36,600 that were not in the 2026 budget. And that is an overall increase of about 111 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 4.87%. 112 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:46,240 and that includes um the new library position that was added. So this is 113 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:50,120 inclusive of that in terms of what was published for the hearing. 114 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:58,320 All right. So now we'll talk about the revenue neutral rate. So, this was 115 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:03,279 established by the legislature a few years back. And essentially what the 116 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:07,040 revenue neutral rate is, um, I'm going to read this definition and then maybe 117 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:12,240 try to give you a layman version of it. But the revenue neutral rate is the 118 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:16,800 property tax rate in mills that would generate the same property tax revenue 119 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:22,880 in dollars as levied during the previous tax year using the current tax year's 120 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:27,600 total assessed valuation. That sounds really complicated. Essentially, it's 121 00:10:24,959 --> 00:10:33,200 just saying if you were generating last year's property taxes with this year's 122 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:39,200 assessed valuation, what would your mill levy be? That's what the revenue neutral 123 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:43,920 rate says. Um, it doesn't speak to inflation. It doesn't speak to cost. It 124 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:49,920 just speaks to if you were generating the same amount of property tax dollars 125 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:54,839 as last year with this year's tax base, what would the revenue neutral rate be? 126 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Okay. So, the uh the 2026 levy versus the 2027 levy. And again, I am so sorry. 127 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:18,399 I may have a different version of this presentation elsewhere. I apologize. Um 128 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:23,000 the revenue neutral rate is 56.298. The uh the published levy 129 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,680 We'll use this one. The published levy was 59.209. 130 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:56,720 So this was the notice for the hearing. Here was the published levy. Here was 131 00:11:53,839 --> 00:12:01,640 last year's levy. And then here is the revenue neutral rate 56.298. 132 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:25,600 So every year when we go through the budget process, you put together what's 133 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:30,480 called a budget adjustment list and everything that's included in the budget 134 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:35,440 that has a mill levy impact. So we include staffing, we include wages, if 135 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,160 you buy equipment, um anything that that has a 136 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:45,040 consequential uh mill levy impact, we put on the adjustment list. We had nine 137 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:49,680 potential adjustments that were included in the adjustment list this year. Uh for 138 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:54,639 the sake of the publication of the hearing, none of those were selected for 139 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:58,399 publication. Uh you still have the ability to consider them. You still have 140 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:06,440 the ability to reduce what was published. You just cannot legally 141 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:06,440 exceed what was published at this point. 142 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:16,079 Um, last year, as you recall, there was uh several positions that were added to 143 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:22,000 the public safety budget. This year's budget, the only position changes were a 144 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:27,839 library position that was requested and that was for the adult services desk 145 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:32,959 clerk position. Um, and then there was an explanation that was provided by the 146 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:38,720 library board and the executive director uh about the position request and that 147 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:44,720 was discussed at your work session and it was included in the budget and has 148 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:50,480 not been removed um as of the uh the work sessions or the publishing of the 149 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:54,240 public notice. Uh we do have library staff here if you have any questions or 150 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,839 want to speak to them. Again, again, a reminder, uh there's an explanation 151 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:03,199 that's provided up here on the screen. This was provided in the libraries 152 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:08,320 budget uh about the uh the staffing changes. Um so that was the only 153 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:12,240 position that was added last year. We had quite a few in the public safety. 154 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:16,440 This is the only position change in the 2027 budget. 155 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,079 Now on the uh the projects and initiatives, there was a lot of the 156 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:33,680 projects that are still carrying over that were stuff that we had started in 157 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:37,760 2026. Some of it was in a design phase. Now you're moving into construction 158 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:42,079 phases. Uh some of them are just projects that spanned over multiple 159 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:46,639 years, but these are still the the top projects, initiatives, and priorities 160 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:52,079 are identified in the 2027 uh budget. The first one is the electric 161 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:57,040 volt electric low voltage system conversion project. Our staff is 162 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:00,480 currently working with the engineer to uh get all of the uh the design 163 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:08,639 engineering done so we can essentially bid that project out to move forward. Um 164 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:13,760 that is a a a massive electric uh grid project that is geared towards 165 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,480 reliability uh and sustainability of our system. 166 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:24,480 It's replacing a lot of outdated technology and a lot of um outdated 167 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:29,440 structures which is poles, transformers, uh substation that'll be replaced that 168 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:34,480 they're on a completely separate voltage system that does not match the rest of 169 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:38,880 our modern grid. Council approved a project previously 170 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:44,160 um for us to move forward with the electric voltage system conversion. So, 171 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:48,959 we're in that process and uh we're just in that design phase right now and the 172 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:54,720 construction is going to be going on through 2027 and and ultimately we'll 173 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:58,320 see when uh the project winds down, but uh for now it's going to be a pretty 174 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:02,639 long-term project for us to get done over the next year or two. The second 175 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:08,079 project is public works complex construction. You had essentially 176 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:12,959 authorized the uh the bonds for that a while back. We had done the first 177 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:17,920 building already this year which was the salt sand storage. You approved the the 178 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:23,279 bonds and the financing for us to move forward with that project. And actually 179 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:28,560 on the agenda tonight is uh one of the business items that approves the uh the 180 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:33,440 the essentially the the maximum guaranteed amount on that contract for 181 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:39,360 us to move forward with that project. Once that's done, then we can actually 182 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:45,360 begin the mobilization for construction. The red bud phase two uh you're 183 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:51,199 currently in a design uh process design engineering and this is for the bridge 184 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:56,480 over the river and then the uh the plan construction would happen later 185 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:02,240 potentially 2027 but I think stretching into the 2028 calendar year uh before 186 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:07,120 we're able to complete that that project. We're in the design phase right 187 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:11,919 now. Um, but you shouldn't expect that we'll be doing any sort of construction 188 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:17,360 before the end of this year if at best it's going to be happening in late 2027 189 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:24,640 and then spilling potentially into 2028 depending on our conversations with Kate 190 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:29,280 Odd goes uh Santa Fe Lake OG wear and also the dam. So this is a project has 191 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:35,200 been hanging out there for about 10 years. You saw the pictures during our 192 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:41,520 budget work sessions where uh the current weir structure that holds the 193 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:46,799 water in the lake is falling apart. um it has crumbled the the concrete has 194 00:17:43,919 --> 00:17:54,640 crumbled in the last you know 40 50 years that that uh new weir has been in 195 00:17:50,160 --> 00:18:00,480 place and uh beyond that there are new standards that the division of water 196 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:07,440 resources requires us to upgrade both the spillway and the dam in order to 197 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:12,480 comply with modern dam standards. And so we are having to uh the the essentially 198 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:20,640 the scope of that project includes the addition of a stem wall and also uh um 199 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:26,640 earth work that will occur on the north side of the spillway and then 200 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:31,919 replacement in kind of the existing OG wear spillway. And then when that's 201 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:36,559 done, we will have resolved a a 10-year project that has been hanging out with 202 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:42,559 the Division of Water Resources and the and the um the Santa Fe Lake OG wear 203 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:48,160 will be able to move forward in construction in 2027. 204 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:52,880 The water tower rehabilitations, um I don't know that we're going to get 205 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:58,080 those done this year. I think we have our our KDH. 206 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Um there is an inspection that's coming up this this fall and I don't think 207 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:06,799 we're going to have it ready to actually construct that this year. If we can, we 208 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:11,679 will proceed with it. And if we're not able to proceed this year, then that 209 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:17,200 will carry into 2027, but that'll uh update the Arnold Tower and then also uh 210 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:23,600 rehabilitation and work on uh golf that has issues as of the last inspection. 211 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:26,960 the CDBG sidewalk project. Uh that is not a guarantee right now, but the 212 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:32,240 council has gone through all of the process for us to apply for uh 213 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:37,280 essentially grant funding to help us rehabilitate sidewalks throughout the 214 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:41,840 community that fall in that that map area that we had done the surveys on and 215 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:46,720 show to the community. So, if we're able to secure that grant, then uh we could 216 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:51,840 potentially secure $1.5 million in funding to work on rehabilitation 217 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:58,960 sidewalks in our community. As you recall, the the community voted on a new 218 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:04,160 sales tax that included modified language to allow the sales tax to be 219 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:08,240 utilized for sidewalks and for streets. And so this will be the first time we've 220 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:13,679 had funding that's dedicated for that purpose for us to do rehabilitation on 221 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:19,120 existing sidewalks. And then the final uh substantive project is the CCIP. And 222 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:26,640 this is Highway 54400. Uh we secured a grant from KOT. I 223 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:31,440 believe it was a $400,000 grant for Ccl. And that is for the uh highway 400. And 224 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:36,240 I think it's from the overpass stretching west to the west city limits. 225 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Um maybe just on the asphalt part. I I have 226 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:44,640 to check with the engineer to see where the full scope was, but it did it did 227 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:50,400 not include the bridge. The bridge is a separate issue that we're working with 228 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:57,039 KOD on. Um it is just the uh it is just the uh the asphalt I believe on 54400. 229 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,720 So those are the uh the major projects, the initiatives. Again, most of these 230 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,919 are just carryovers from last year, but they are large substantive projects 231 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:09,120 we've been working on for a very long time. And uh so we don't have a ton of 232 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:13,039 new things that we have added for the the 2027 233 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,640 budget. So with that, mayor and council, I'm 234 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:22,320 just going to pull this up one more time. So this was the resolution that 235 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:27,679 was published last year's mil levy 58.398. 236 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:34,880 the proposed that was published for this meeting 59209 237 00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:39,840 and revenue neutral 56298. So, uh, from here on out, um, you open 238 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:46,080 the meeting. You, or sorry, you will open the the RNR hearing for public 239 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:53,360 comment and then once you're done with public comment, you can move on to a 240 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:59,679 vote to exceed the revenue neutral rate and then you will move into the public 241 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:03,039 hearing for the budget itself. So, with that, I'll turn it over to council if 242 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:08,320 you have any questions that I can answer before the the hearing takes place. If 243 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,679 not, you can move into the RNR hearing. >> Josh, I have a quick question. It's 244 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:19,159 about our technical difficulty. Are we able to go live yet? 245 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,159 » Okay. Thank you. Just for transparency. 246 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:26,840 » Okay. >> Let's open the public hearing. 247 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:35,880 So, if anybody here has something they want to say about the revenue neutral 248 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,880 rate, now is the time. 249 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Okay, I don't see anybody stepping forward, so we'll close the public 250 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:56,360 hearing and I'll entertain a motion to uh get this revenue neutral rate vote 251 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,360 started. 252 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:06,880 Josh, uh, a yes vote means >> just that you plan to exceed the revenue 253 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:10,320 neutral. It doesn't it doesn't specify what the amount is, just that you plan 254 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,760 to exceed, which is also what you publish to the county already. 255 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:19,480 » I got that. >> And then it'll be finalized once you 256 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,480 actually vote on the budget. 257 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:30,400 » And so what you're exceeding is that 56.298, 298 which is just under just 258 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:33,400 under three ms higher than what was published 259 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:42,600 » or 3 ms sorry what was published is about 3 ms higher than the revenue 260 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,600 neutral 261 00:23:50,480 --> 00:24:00,159 I hear a motion so If we vote to exceed it, 262 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:04,799 we don't have to pass it. We can go back and rework it to a lower rate, right? 263 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:09,679 » You're Yeah. So, the way And again, this this is one of the things that's kind of 264 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:14,960 goofy in the legislation, but you have to pass a resolution if 265 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:19,039 you're going to exceed the revenue neutral rate. And it says you have to 266 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:24,880 pass it essentially on the date of the hearing. And so you're not committing to 267 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:31,200 what the final mill levy is until you pass the budget. You're just saying that 268 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:34,320 you're planning to exceed the 56.298. >> Doesn't mean you have to either. 269 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,320 » So we can still come in. >> So if we 270 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:42,080 » if we could find a way to do it, >> you can still be lower, but you could 271 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,799 not be higher if you do not pass it. >> A vote yes does not indicate a plan to 272 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:51,440 exceed revenue neutral. It simply authorizes you 273 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:53,919 » to do that. Should your budget final decisions do that? 274 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,559 » It means you're going to >> The way it's worded is you intend to 275 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:59,520 exceed. >> That's what it means. 276 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:02,320 » But it doesn't mean you have to. >> What' you say, Mike? 277 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,679 » That's not what it means, Mike. >> Means you're going to exceed revenue 278 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,559 neutral rate if you vote yes for it. That's what it means. 279 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,480 » That's not correct. >> It means you plan on it, but that 280 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,000 doesn't mean you're necessarily going to do it. 281 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,960 » So, you're not required. >> You're not required to. 282 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:23,000 » We could hit revenue neutral still even though we say yes right now. 283 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,000 » Correct. or under. 284 00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:28,480 » It's pretty confusing. >> It is. 285 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,559 » It is. >> It is. What? 286 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:35,840 » Confusing. >> They're saying it's confusing. It is. 287 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:38,559 » Yes. A yes vote does not bind you to exceeding your revenue neutral rate. Y 288 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:41,840 » correct. >> I think the journal 289 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:45,520 » allows you to say the general publicly assumes. 290 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:52,960 » I'm sorry. What was the answer? I I I 291 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:58,080 believe that it does. Um now it doesn't specify 292 00:25:54,559 --> 00:26:05,840 what number that you're arriving at. Um if it's 59 58 57 56.3 293 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:12,240 but I believe if you pass that motion then you are um saying you plan to 294 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:15,120 exceed the revenue neutral rate. It authorizes you to plan to, but it 295 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:21,520 doesn't bind you to >> Now, if you adopt 562981, 296 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,200 technically you exceeded it. >> You're still you're still pretty flat at 297 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,679 that point. But, >> but we hit 55. 298 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,799 » Huh? >> Can we hit 55? I mean, if we were able 299 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:37,919 to, are we allowed to do that even if we voted to exceed it? 300 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,159 » I don't know the answer to that. The way it's reading, it says that you still 301 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,919 find it after taking public testimony, you still find it necessary to exceed 302 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,600 the RNR rate. >> So, it indicates that you have every 303 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:54,159 intention of exceeding it, but >> I agree. 304 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,880 » It doesn't specify if you're bound to it. 305 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,320 » I I can't imagine >> if you don't adopt this, then you cannot 306 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:02,400 exact. That's the point. 307 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:08,400 » That is that is clear. >> That's the point. If we go into a public 308 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:14,480 comment on the budget and we are profoundly enlightened on other options 309 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:18,559 and we find ways to reduce the budget even below what revenue neutral maybe I 310 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:21,360 can't see that at the peak a statute would require us to pass something 311 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:25,159 higher >> spend more than we need to 312 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:33,840 » I want you to be right >> it's it's poss and again we've never had 313 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:39,120 that scenario before so it's I'm trying to think through it. Erica, can you help 314 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:44,000 me? Is it Is it possible then that if they did go below 315 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:48,559 revenue neutral that they would just pass another 316 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:54,480 resolution? >> If they if they publish it now 317 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:59,520 saying they plan to exceed, they can still they can still go below what was 318 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,799 published for the hearing, but not right revenue neutral. if they want to pass a 319 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,120 different resolution, >> you could either you could resend the 320 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:11,279 resolution. You could I mean you you wouldn't even have to do that because it 321 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:16,320 all it it's not binding you to a number. It's only saying you have the intent to 322 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:21,679 » um I can clarify that before the next meeting if if there's another work 323 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:27,679 session, but um that's never this it requires a ro roll call vote. 324 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:32,720 Um, so I mean again it's indicating that you have the in that you still feel it 325 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:39,000 is necessary to exceed it but it doesn't bind you to a number. So 326 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 » thank you. 327 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,600 » And I'm sorry that that that's confusing. What what Erica is reading 328 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:49,919 was essentially the the bullet point recommendations 329 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:54,720 that that are laid out for that statute and and what you were reading to me 330 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:58,399 earlier. It just says that >> it just says that um so the governing 331 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:02,960 body passes a resolution to exceed the RNR prior to adopting the budget, 332 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:07,039 records the roll call for the governing body vote, and then can formally adopt a 333 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:10,960 budget any time after the resolution is passed anytime within the time frame 334 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:14,480 they've set. Um but the resolution must be passed at the RNR hearing and before 335 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,720 the budget is adopted. >> Yeah. 336 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:22,200 » So it has to happen before the conversation about the proposed budget 337 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,200 itself. So that's why 338 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:34,799 » the city attorney have any opinion on that conversation? 339 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:39,440 » So I think I think you can if even if you pass this resolution you can pass a 340 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:44,159 budget lower or at the revenue neutral rate. 341 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,279 » Perfect. >> Thank you. What I need to know 342 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:12,640 that Kip just found something on the internet 343 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:17,520 and it says going lower, collecting less property tax revenue or 344 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:23,760 setting a lower mail levy than the calculated RNR is fully allowed. 345 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:30,799 Lowering the property tax collection does not trigger any special penalty or 346 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:34,159 extra hearing requirements. >> I think that's what that's what Andrew 347 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,640 just said. >> Yeah. 348 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640 » Thank you, K. 349 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:50,720 I move for resolution number 2026-18 to exceed revenue neutral rate. 350 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,000 » A second. >> Okay, I've got a motion and a second. 351 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Erica, will you call the role? >> Martin, 352 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,200 » no. >> Lick lighter. 353 00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:01,200 » No. >> Bailey, 354 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,200 » yes. >> Scott, 355 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200 » no. >> Richardson, 356 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,799 » yes. >> Davis, 357 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,240 » yes. >> Whitey, 358 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,240 » no. Martin, I'm sorry. Mar, >> yes. 359 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:23,000 » That's a tie. What it is >> doesn't have. It doesn't say. 360 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:50,039 I agree. Thanks a lot. 361 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:06,320 » We're We're trying to check the statute to see what the requirement is. So, 362 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,720 typically the mayor would have a tiebreaking vote. We're trying to verify 363 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,279 if that's actually what happens for a budget. We've never seen that before. 364 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,720 So, we have to check >> cuz the rules change on this stuff all 365 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,720 the time. 366 00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:30,360 So, who are you going to fire? 367 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,200 That's all I need to know. 368 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Okay, it does say majority vote. Um 369 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,960 29 370 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,039 All 371 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:37,960 right, mayor and council. So, it looks like the relative statutory reference is 372 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,960 KSA79-2988. 373 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,640 I'm going to read this. It says, 374 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,640 "A majority vote of the governing body by the adoption of a resolution or 375 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,519 ordinance to approve exceeding the revenue neutral rate shall be required 376 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:04,399 prior to adoption of a proposed budget that will result in a tax rate in excess 377 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,480 of the revenue neutral rate. Such vote of the governing body shall be conducted 378 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,000 at the public hearing and on the same day as the commencement of the public 379 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,480 hearing. After the governing body has heard from interested taxpayers and 380 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:20,159 shall be a roll call vote. If the governing body approves exceeding the 381 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:25,839 revenue neutral rate, the governing body shall not adopt a budget that results in 382 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:33,839 a tax rate in excess of its proposed tax rate as stated in the notice provided. 383 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:40,000 So I read that as a simple majority vote. Do does that give the mayor 384 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:46,440 Okay. So mayor, you have the ability to break is that what that says that the 385 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:46,440 mayor has the ability to break the tie. 386 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:59,920 » Okay. So in this uh mayor votes and breaks the 387 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:03,920 tie and you need a majority in order to pass. We'll 388 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:08,560 » call a Rawlings for your vote. >> Yes. 389 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:15,520 The motion carries >> again. So what that vote is is that it 390 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:20,480 exceeds or that you plan to exceed that uh revenue neutral rate of the 56. 391 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:24,160 Again, you have not adopted a budget yet, 392 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:27,560 » right? and you still have the ability to adjust it. 393 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:39,119 Okay. So, with that, we will open the public hearing for the 394 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:43,680 2027 budget. And if you're here to speak about that, 395 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:48,640 you come up to the podium, state your name and address, 396 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,119 and give us your comments in five minutes or less. 397 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:15,359 Hey. Um, >> you'll have to speak loud. 398 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:21,040 » Okay. Um, Kobe Johnson. I live on 1426 Dearborn Street. Uh, I have a wife at 399 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:26,160 home and one daughter. Okay. >> Little baby under one year old. Uh, my 400 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,480 question, it's my first time, so excuse my ignorance here and you might have to 401 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:35,359 clarify some stuff. you already have. But just reviewing the budget, I saw the 402 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,760 rear loading trash trucks and you guys were originally planning to pay with 403 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:45,680 cash and saving up for that and then it got diverted into I think something 404 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:50,880 utility related, a solid waste facility. How do you guys plan to save for trash 405 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:56,800 trucks? And also, how do you source alternatives? I saw these listed 360 to 406 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:04,160 400K. I did some quick searches and found two other cities had spent 260k on 407 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:09,440 standard kind of rear load trash trucks and I searched online and found on RDK 408 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:14,000 two 20 yard 25 yard trash trucks for about 260. So how do you source and make 409 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,920 sure that I don't want to use the word gouging but someone's giving you 410 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:22,760 competitive pricing on your your vendors? 411 00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:22,760 » Fair question. 412 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:33,040 I I can answer that normally we do ask for competitive bids 413 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:38,880 unless we use there's a source that's a government approved source where the 414 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,440 federal or state government have already done the bidding 415 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:49,359 » and they list the people that are low bidders and that way you can just order 416 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:54,240 it right that way. Our staff 417 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,760 goes around and recommends the best truck that they see to fit our needs. 418 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:05,440 » Yeah. >> Um 20 years ago, we had rear loaders 419 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:10,160 that were single axle and uh we had two, if I remember right, we had two wrecks 420 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:18,160 with those on the landfill road because they weren't stable. So, we opted for 421 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:20,079 dual axle uh trucks to to maintain more stability. 422 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,599 Yeah, >> that that's just some knowledge that I 423 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,200 have. But >> did that answer any of your question? 424 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,720 » Answer a little bit. How do you plan to save for those trucks? And are you guys 425 00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:34,960 planning to end up I know you said by 28, 2030, but you got to start saving 426 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:40,079 today. Do you guys start keeping reserves for that? And do you go into 427 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:44,800 like CDs? I know Kansas does allow you guys to invest and save money that way. 428 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:51,280 » Josh. >> All right. Um, so several things going 429 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:56,320 on there. So one, the utility is separate from the property taxes. So the 430 00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,000 utility is the closest thing that we have to a business. It's considered an 431 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:04,320 enterprise fund. So with each of those essentially means that we have customers 432 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:11,359 that we charge a utility rate for and then the rates pay for the operations. 433 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Now in solid waste you have another project that is kind of unrelated to the 434 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:21,440 fleet which is the public works complex. And the public works complex is a 435 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,440 combination of buildings. Some of it is for the utility, some of it is for taxup 436 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:31,119 supported operations like the street crews and the parks team. um the utility 437 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,920 for solid waste is going to be contributing some of the money for the 438 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:41,200 project and then the rest of it was bond finance meaning that it has a property 439 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:46,079 tax impact. The way that we handled that in the budget over the last couple years 440 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:50,880 was to make it a neutral property tax impact by reducing something else by the 441 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:56,320 equivalent amount. So that's how we handled the building infrastructure. 442 00:39:53,440 --> 00:40:04,640 Now that still leaves the trucks which are funded by the utility. Uh we have 443 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,920 replaced two of the um we have two different types of trucks. We have 444 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:14,000 automated which are uh sidearm loaders. And then we have the standard rear 445 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,240 loaders which are the the commercial boxers. You see the 2 yard, the four 446 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:22,560 yard, the sixyard. And they serve different purposes and they handle 447 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:30,480 different types of equipment. We have replaced the two um automated side 448 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:34,320 loaders already with cash and we were able to save that up over the last 10 449 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:39,359 years to pay cash for that which is one of the goals that the council 450 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:43,839 established. Um in recent years though the truck costs have gone up 451 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,839 considerably. We also got hit with tariff pricing. That was one of the 452 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:52,720 things our vendor told us uh that those trucks were going up based on that sort 453 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:59,119 of pricing as well. And so the cost of the rear loaders is what's left. Um the 454 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:05,280 conversation we had with council at the work sessions was if the goal is to 455 00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:11,680 still pay cash and buy those outright without issuing debt. We think you have 456 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:16,720 to do a a rate increase of some kind if that remains the goal. You don't have to 457 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:20,560 buy cash. That was just one of the goals. If we're willing to finance it 458 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,240 and spread the costs out, we could potentially manage that differently. But 459 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,800 if we're trying to get enough cash to buy it outright, uh we're likely going 460 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:34,160 to be looking at a rate increase towards the end of this year going into next 461 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,920 year. As the mayor indicated, there are different truck types. Um there's 462 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,680 different axles, there's different engine setups. Some of them have an 463 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:47,440 engine in front, some of them it's a cab over where they're and those are 464 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:52,319 differently priced. And um I don't know that I can answer all all the questions 465 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:58,160 about which types of trucks uh we're all looking at, but um we have evaluated the 466 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:03,200 fleet. We did test runs with a variety of different equipment and price is not 467 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:07,680 the exclusive thing that we look at. It's an important thing that we look at, 468 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:12,720 but we also have done demos and things to make sure that it's the best piece of 469 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,520 equipment for our purpose. So sometimes we're looking at the long-term 470 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:20,240 maintenance cost. Sometimes we're looking at uh you know in the example of 471 00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:25,119 the cabover chassis versus the one where the engine is in front, the ability to 472 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:29,119 navigate in some of our alleys, the ability to make turns and culde-sacs, 473 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:33,440 one of them is better than the other. So some of that goes into the choice as 474 00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:38,960 well. And then what the mayor was speaking to is some of the equipment we 475 00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:43,200 buy, not all the time, but some of it we buy through something called a n a 476 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:48,079 national purchasing contract. So there's a solicitation that is done on a 477 00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:52,880 national level with vendors across the country where they look at pricing and 478 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:58,000 then they look at all of the other um criteria that they may establish for 479 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:02,880 engines for maintenance and otherwise. And we're able to piggyback on those 480 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:06,800 contracts. So that's an option. Uh you don't always end up with the cheaper 481 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:13,359 equipment. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. It depends on which contract 482 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:17,359 we participate in. Um, so we'll ultimately we'll have to choose what 483 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,839 trucks we get. I don't think we've chosen at this point, but that's that's 484 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,599 some of the logic that goes into it and what the plan is right now. So, we've 485 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:30,160 replaced half the fleet with cash right now, but we have two more and we've got 486 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:35,680 to figure out how to pay for them. And if the goal is pay cash, then we we're 487 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:40,640 looking at a a rate increase. >> So, when you save, do you put into CDs? 488 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,760 Do you do any kind of accumulation or investing on our reserves? Do we have 489 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,960 any? >> Yeah. So, uh there's something called 490 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:54,800 the the municipal investment pool and we participate in that and uh that is 491 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:58,480 invested in in different ways. Um so, yeah, we we have a couple of things like 492 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:02,480 that where money goes into it and you're able to generate a little off of it. 493 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:07,599 That's been better the last couple of years. In prior years, it generated very 494 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:12,560 little for us. Um, but recently we were able to get a little bit more out of it. 495 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,680 » All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. 496 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:20,160 » Thank you, >> Cody. I just like to say thanks for 497 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:21,839 coming to our meeting and asking questions and things. We appreciate 498 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,319 that. >> Yeah, 499 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,720 » I echo that. >> Come back anytime. 500 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:33,079 » Is there anybody else? 501 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Okay, let's close the public hearing and consider approval of the proposed 2027 502 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:48,000 budget. Or we have an option that we could just table it because we're going 503 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:52,720 to go to a workshop possibly. So that's your choice, council. Mr. 504 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:57,040 Mayor, I make a motion to to uh table the approval of the 2027 budget, 505 00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,560 schedule work session review, discuss potential reductions or changes to the 506 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,480 proposed 2027 budget. >> Second. 507 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:08,200 » Second. Got a motion and a second. Are there any other questions? 508 00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:16,800 » Okay. >> Now, can we schedule 509 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:22,480 » the official work session then? And >> well, can I vote on the motion and then 510 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:27,680 schedule the work session? >> Do both in one? 511 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:31,119 » Yes. If we haven't done that. Yes. >> Yes. 512 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:36,400 » Okay. All those in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? 513 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:40,400 » Motion carries. Do you plan on is it next Monday night 514 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,480 you want to do the work session? >> The off Mondays are typically when 515 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:49,040 you've had them. Uh 21st you have to adopt the budget before our deadline. So 516 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,079 I think sometime next week is your only opportunity. The off Monday makes the 517 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:54,800 most sense based on your previous schedules. 518 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,359 » Okay. 5:30. Josh, >> it works for me. 519 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,839 21st >> 14th. 520 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:07,680 So may >> I make a motion to schedule the uh 521 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:13,839 hearing I'm sorry the the meeting to discuss the potential reductions changes 522 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:17,119 on Monday September 14th at 5:30 p.m. here at council chambers. 523 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,280 » Second. >> Got a motion and a second. 524 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:26,240 » All those in favor say I. >> I. 525 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:30,960 » Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. 526 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,440 » 14th to 14. >> Okay. 527 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,920 » Don't be late, Mike. >> Say what? 528 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:42,720 » Told him not to be late. >> Okay, other Mike. 529 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:48,720 » That moves us to item two. Finally, ordinance establishing the maximum 530 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:54,079 property tax dollar amount for the library fund and library 531 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:57,440 employee benefit fund. And we only need half of that, right? 532 00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:59,680 » We don't we don't table or we table that tonight, right? 533 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,200 » That this is tied to your budget adoption. So you would not take action 534 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,160 on this item tonight. You would table it. 535 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:12,040 » Yeah. >> Till the hearing date. 536 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,040 » So make a motion to table that somebody. 537 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:21,040 Uh, >> I make a motion to table the proposed 538 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:24,240 ordinance number 2270 establishing the maximum property tax dollar amount for 539 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,880 the library fund and library employee benefit fund for the Augusta Public 540 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:33,359 Library until after the >> until the 21st. 541 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:37,440 » Yeah, until September 21st. >> Second. 542 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:42,720 » Got a motion and a second. Erica, do you want to call a roll call vote? No. All 543 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:46,560 right. All those in favor of tableabling this say I. I. 544 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:53,079 » Any opposed? Motion carries. 545 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:53,079 Okay. 546 00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:03,040 Item number three, annual request for ex to exchange federal funds staff. 547 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,920 » Yes. Uh mayor and council, the federal fund exchange is KOT. Federal fund 548 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,040 exchange is a program that KOT launched many years ago and you get an annual 549 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:16,400 allocation from the federal government an annual amount of funding that you're 550 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:21,040 able to use on transportation related projects. But if you use that money 551 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,559 there's a whole lot of red tape that goes along with that and it can make 552 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,880 your project quite a bit more expensive because you have to follow all of the 553 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:35,280 federal requirements anytime you do a project. Uh so what KOT launched I want 554 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:40,000 to say back in like 2008 2009 time frame is something called the federal fund 555 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:44,800 exchange where what they do is they are willing to give you 90 cents on the 556 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:49,359 dollar. They assume all of the federal requirements and they take the federal 557 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:53,520 money and then they give you 90 cents and then they free you of that burden of 558 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:59,839 having to comply with all of the federal requirements. 559 00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:04,599 And so um the uh the amount that is appropriated to us this year is 560 00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:04,599 $133,653.13. 561 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:13,400 So the fund exchange would be 90 cents on the dollar which is $120,288.13. 562 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:24,400 Um attached are the forms and the description of the program. What we're 563 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:29,760 recommending is that you go ahead and utilize uh the form to get reimbursed 564 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:35,200 for the uh the PPP, the pavement preservation projects that we recently 565 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:42,079 did throughout the city. And then that money can go back in to our uh our 566 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:49,040 transportation funds and uh be used on other projects or just be used to um put 567 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:53,040 our put our cash balances back in place. Um, I'm going to go ahead and speak a 568 00:49:51,119 --> 00:50:00,240 little bit to the subsequent item. They are separate items, but uh, in the PPP 569 00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:04,079 program, we had two roadways that are technically park roads. They're not the 570 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:11,280 same thing as residential streets. That was Garvin uh, Park Road and Augusta 571 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:16,400 Avenue. And our plan on on those was to utilize funding out of capital 572 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:20,000 improvement fund 16 instead of street sales tax fund because the street sales 573 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:24,720 tax fund exists for you to do maintenance essentially on platted city 574 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:28,800 roadways. Those are unplatted roadways. So those two we were paying for capital 575 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,800 improve out of the capital improvement fund. Uh, one of our recommendations, 576 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:38,880 and you'll see this in the subsequent item, is that when you reimburse uh, 577 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:43,280 your project for the streets that you reimburse the capital improvement fund 578 00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:47,040 as well, and then that helps you pay for the uh, the next item that's on the 579 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:50,800 list. Again, they're they're unrelated for your action right now, but I wanted 580 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:56,800 to explain that relationship briefly before we get to that item. So, the 581 00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:01,440 action item tonight is for council to consider the federal fund exchange for 582 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:04,680 the 90 cents on the dollar in the amount of $120,288. 583 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,880 And it was for the pavement preservation projects 584 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:18,160 that uh we recently completed throughout town. With that, I'll turn it over to 585 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:21,160 council for consideration. >> Council 586 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:33,520 Make a motion to approve the request to exchange federal funds for 2026 under 587 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,359 the fund federal aid fund exchange master agreement. Authorizing the mayor 588 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:40,400 to sign the request form and authorizing staff to reimburse the capital 589 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:45,920 improvement fund for the portion of the 2026 pavement preservation project that 590 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:50,400 was initially paid from that fund. >> Second. 591 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:55,119 » Should I get a second? Okay. 592 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:59,040 Got a motion or second. Questions? Mike is the amount of money we're talking 593 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:05,680 about that 133,000 >> 120,288 is what we would be reimbursed. 594 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:11,280 » What we would receive from >> Okay. And it's to go against the 595 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:16,240 $334,000 amount that we paid advance. >> Yeah. So ba basically you just have to 596 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:20,960 submit enough of an invoice to cover that amount. So that our project invoice 597 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,880 was that $334,000. So we're just verifying that we had 598 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,960 enough expenditures to justify the the reimbursement. 599 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,920 » Thank you. >> Yes, sir. 600 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:36,000 » Any other questions? All those in favor say I. 601 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:40,480 » I. Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 602 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,960 Thank you. Item four, agreement with JEO for 603 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:50,000 engineering services for the Red Bud Trail levy crossing staff 604 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:55,040 » and Brad. >> Yes, mayor and counselor, city engineer, 605 00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:00,880 uh Brad Schwarz is here tonight. Um as a matter of introduction, 606 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:06,160 uh will provide background. So the uh council previously se re received grants 607 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:10,160 and completed construction on the uh the phase 1 red bud bridge over highway 608 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,240 54400. You've subsequently received uh grant to 609 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:21,119 do the uh the bridge over the whitewater river which is currently in the design 610 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:27,440 phase and ultimately moving to construction once design is satisfied. 611 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:32,319 Uh you also signed a memorandum of understanding with a local nonprofit 612 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:37,200 group called Arty. That's the Andover Augusta Rail Trail Initiative. And uh 613 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:42,880 they are committed and working towards the fundraising to complete the trail 614 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:49,760 segments between the bridges and the trail portion extending all the way to 615 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:56,880 the levy which is our west city limits. So all of that is in place right now. Uh 616 00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:01,920 once those projects are done, you are still left with a small segment in order 617 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:07,200 to complete the connection that currently exists. So right now, our 618 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:12,400 existing Redbud trail stops at Lulu Street. It does not extend past that. So 619 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:17,839 you have the levey crossing itself. And when I say levy crossing, the levey has 620 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:21,760 a designated footprint according to the core of engineers. So, we're talking 621 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:25,920 about within that footprint, the core has permitting requirements if you're 622 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:30,720 going to have any sort of construction that goes on there. Outside of that, it 623 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:36,480 would essentially just be building a similar sort of paved um trail as what 624 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:41,680 we built east of Lulu to make that connection. But the project that we're 625 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:48,400 doing with this agreement tonight is simply on the on the levy crossing 626 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:55,520 itself. So the reason we're proposing this now is you are working kind of on 627 00:54:51,599 --> 00:55:01,200 multiple timelines at the same time. So you have the transportation alternative 628 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:06,319 grant and the calendar that uh JO is working on where uh the project is 629 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:12,160 likely to start construction in maybe late 2027 and then finish in 2028. 630 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,559 Ideally, my thought is if you've completed those bridges, you don't want 631 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:20,400 to have a big gap where you're still not connected. You want people to be able to 632 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:26,000 finish that connection and get into the city limits. And so, we started talking 633 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:32,240 with JEO uh to brainstorm what do you have to do to get on the other side of 634 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:36,800 the levy. Uh so they've been working uh to prepare some information regarding 635 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,520 the flood plane, regarding the work with the core and it's uh it's a lot of 636 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:45,040 engineering. I I don't know that the project construction wise is necessarily 637 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:49,599 all that complicated. It's just that the permitting is and you have to go through 638 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:54,079 that permitting process with the core and on the flood plane stuff to navigate 639 00:55:51,760 --> 00:56:00,960 it. So JEO has put together an engineering agreement for scope of 640 00:55:55,839 --> 00:56:04,880 services and that totals $62,500 and that moves the levy crossing portion 641 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:10,319 through all of those permitting requirements and then I believe also 642 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:15,440 included the bidding and the uh yeah the bidding for construction to actually 643 00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:20,000 build. Um, I'll let Brad speak to any of the 644 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,040 other details that are in the scope. And Brad, if you can highlight just some of 645 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:26,880 the things that are in there, you know, why why is there so much to it? It is a 646 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:32,000 short section, but what are all the different types of permits and things 647 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:36,559 that you have to to go after? Um, the previous item that you just voted on, 648 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:42,319 what I said is through your federal fund exchange, you can reimburse pedestrian 649 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:46,559 or sorry, transportation related projects. This pedestrian trail is a 650 00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:50,640 transportation project. It's an eligible expenditure. With all of the other 651 00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:54,640 grants and things that you've pursued, the goal has been to try to finance that 652 00:56:52,720 --> 00:57:00,559 whole project without having to use local tax dollars. So, with the previous 653 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,920 action by reimbursing the uh some of that federal fund 654 00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:08,160 exchange money to the capital improvement fund, you were then able to 655 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:12,640 use those federal fund exchange dollars or essentially what got reimbursed to us 656 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:18,000 to pay for this engineering. That is an eligible expense. 657 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:22,880 That's the 2026 federal fund exchange. That still 658 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:28,720 preserves the 2027 federal fund exchange. That still preserves the 2028. 659 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:32,960 And if you're averaging about $120,000 a year, those are the sources of funding 660 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:37,920 that will help you do the construction when time actually comes for you to 661 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:42,960 build the crossing and also to get your connection down to Lulu. Again, the 662 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:48,319 whole point of that plan is to fund it with outside dollars without having to 663 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:52,160 use your your local money. So, Brad, I'll turn it over to you if you could 664 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:56,240 speak to the permitting. Why why is why is there so much involved in that little 665 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,920 crossing and then we'll turn it over to council for any questions that they they 666 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,920 might have. >> Yeah. So, I guess the first thing I'd 667 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:09,760 say is uh for any road engineer, the worst 668 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,440 scope of fee to put together is for a sidewalk project because the 669 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:17,200 construction cost is relatively small, but all the engineering they do behind a 670 00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:22,960 road project is being done on that sidewalk. So, our fee looks very high in 671 00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:29,280 comparison to the construction cost. Uh we are doing um what's called a 408 672 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:32,319 permit, a levy permit, which could be pretty challenging in on here. And then 673 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:40,400 there's everything else that we're normally doing um when we're in an area 674 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:47,200 where there's water. So um DWR, KDA, Shipo, all of those as well. In addition 675 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:50,559 to uh we're wanting to be ADA compliant, we're considering a couple different 676 00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:55,760 scenarios. We also have to maintain access for the homeowner. Josh has a 677 00:58:53,040 --> 00:59:01,440 very good picture on the top there. So, there are some some ADA requirements and 678 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:06,400 also some access and some coordination we're going to have to do there. So, it 679 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:10,000 looks it is a relatively straightforward project, but there are a lot of things 680 00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:13,559 we need to think through to make sure we're doing it right. 681 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:24,160 And I'll stand for any questions. I do have an update on the Ccliff as 682 00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:28,040 well that Josh mentioned earlier, but maybe hit this one first. 683 00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:41,920 » Council, any questions for him on the red bed trail crossing? 684 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,599 » Is the uh levy going to be cut or is this going to go over the top of the 685 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:47,280 levy? >> No. And please do not ever use those 686 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:53,119 words again. We'll get in big trouble. It's a good question. We uh we will be 687 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:57,359 adding fill to the side. So, we kind of have two options here. And I think we're 688 00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:01,599 coming around to seeing this the way city staff was saying. I was trying to 689 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,400 keep us kind of on alignment for the sidewalk. Um there's some safety in 690 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:12,079 keeping the pedestrians away from the road, but particularly that homeowners 691 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,680 access on the northwest corner there makes that kind of challenging. 692 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,960 » Farm, it's farm field. It's not a home, but 693 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:22,400 » Sorry. Thank you. land land owner. Um anyway, we're not committed. We're going 694 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:27,520 to explore our options, but the other solution would be to bring up the 695 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:35,119 sidewalk and kind of come up closer to the road. Uh that would allow that 696 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:39,440 access road there to um we're not having to push the trail out further, but we're 697 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:44,240 going to work through some options. >> Doesn't the trail have to stay where the 698 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:48,319 rail road used to be, where the rail was before? No. 699 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,000 Well, I think Well, I'm not aware. >> Short answer is no. 700 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,040 » Huh? >> Short answer is no. 701 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,160 » No. >> And and it's a very short distance that 702 01:00:54,799 --> 01:01:00,720 we're talking about bringing it up to the road and then bringing it back. 703 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:04,799 » So, for most of it, it will be on the the old rail alignment 704 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:08,240 » to make it stay within the rail for trail, you know, whatever they call it, 705 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,520 you know. >> Yeah. 706 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:15,839 Uh >> I had thought about that. Um, we'll we 707 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,480 can make sure, but I'm not aware of any crank. 708 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,839 » Your rightway is not simply where the bed is. Your w your rightway, I think, 709 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,480 is 100 ft. >> 50 ft on each side. I got that. I 710 01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:27,599 understand that >> there's quite a bit too, 711 01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:30,319 » but I thought right on the 712 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,920 » That's a good point. We'll we'll double check. I mean, certainly an option is to 713 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,559 keep it on alignment. So, if that if that's a requirement, I think we can 714 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:43,280 make that work. >> And this is basically the 62,000 is from 715 01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:46,319 the levy back to Lulu Street. Is this we're talking about 716 01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:52,720 » and a connection to the west? So both sides of the levy. 717 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,040 » So is it from Lulu to the levey and pass the levey to the west? 718 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,880 » Yes. >> So how far west are you going? 719 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:03,200 » As far as we need to to touch down and meet ADA. So we can't just go straight 720 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:07,680 down. We've got to, you know, meet ADA requirements. As soon as we touch down, 721 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:13,440 we're done. RD takes over and then the K.A. project is going to pick back up. 722 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:18,400 Okay, there's not been much discussion about any of this in planning, you know, 723 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:25,359 what's how it's going to be or the layout and going on further west over by 724 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:31,680 the river and and the bridge itself. You know, it's going to be an interesting 725 01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:36,160 time to figure that out. I guess what you know, tie to it. 726 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:41,359 » Yeah. So, these two projects will not touch. RD will be in between if that 727 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:48,559 makes sense. Um, and we are in the middle of design on the the river bridge 728 01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:51,720 and that has been very interesting. >> Thank you, 729 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,640 » Brad. I would be aiss if I didn't ask the same question I always ask. 730 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,640 » Okay. >> On your expedience of how quickly you 731 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:08,000 think you're going to uh >> be able to get this. I don't want to 732 01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:10,799 buckle you down on a time frame, but >> I just wanted to know. 733 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,520 » That's a really good question. Hopefully in the contract it gives a time frame. I 734 01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:20,480 mean, our intent is to sync it up with the bid of the other project. So, we'll 735 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:27,520 have this design um bidding with the K.A. project, which 736 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:30,680 is the the river bridge. >> Thank you. 737 01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:39,200 What I would say, Shane, is that the hard part in any of those times is just 738 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:47,280 however long it takes the permitting agency to complete it. Um, so I 739 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:51,119 » Yeah, I'm assuming I'm assuming the permitting is much harder on the bridge 740 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:56,799 itself and they're in the middle of that right now. And so my my whole point in 741 01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:00,400 working on it now was again so you don't end up fully connected except for that 742 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,599 last thousand feet. it would make sense for it to all open at once if you're 743 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:08,520 going to do that. So, you're trying to coordinate to accomplish that goal. 744 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,920 » I move for the approval of the engineering services agreement with JEO 745 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:23,760 for the engineering services in a lump sum of $62,500. 746 01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:27,440 » Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Any other 747 01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:31,599 questions? >> All those in favor say I. I. 748 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:36,319 » Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 749 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,920 » Would you like a quick update on the CC clip limits? 750 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:46,799 » Sure. >> Uh, so I asked Riley, um, so from the 751 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:52,480 western city limits to Walnut, we are designing Milan overlay and 752 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:57,680 patching. Uh, so some significant street maintenance. And then from Walnut East 753 01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:02,160 to the bridge which is currently concrete pavement today is my 754 01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:04,640 understanding. Uh that is going to be part of this project was 755 01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:08,400 nonparticipating. That means you guys are paying for it and that's just 756 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:11,359 pavement marking from Walnut to the bridge. So 757 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,000 » this pavement marking >> from Walnut to the bridge. 758 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,359 » Yeah. Okay. >> No significant street maintenance. 759 01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:20,319 » Thank you. >> Thank you so much. 760 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:31,640 Okay. Item number five, Osage pipeline access 761 01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:31,640 agreement staff. 762 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:40,799 All right. Thank you, council. Um, so just to kind of give everybody some 763 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:44,480 information, that handout that I gave you at the beginning of the meeting, 764 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:50,079 that will be for this item here. Uh so on May 14th of this year, staff received 765 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:55,920 an access agreement uh request from Osage pipeline. The agreement would be 766 01:05:53,200 --> 01:06:01,599 to bore into areas on or near the levy system to perform soil and groundwater 767 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:07,760 monitoring wells. Osage is planning to put in about seven wells. Um you can see 768 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:13,440 the locations on that map that I handed out. Um, I received that today from them 769 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:20,160 as an update to what was originally sent and was included in in the packet. Uh, 770 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:25,520 Osage is planning on beginning work on September 14th with approximately 771 01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:32,400 18-month time frame which would have work concluding in March of 2028 or 772 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:36,559 thereabouts. Um, when staff first received the access agreement, we raised 773 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:40,240 significant concerns and questions about whether or not the levy uh or whether 774 01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:44,960 the work would be permitted by the core uh concerning that it was near the levy. 775 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:48,960 Um, we requested that Osage provide any kind of documentation that they have 776 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:55,839 communicated with the core um and have received any kind of relevant permits 777 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:59,760 that they uh required. Um after little bit of time, a couple of months, 778 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:04,720 we got word back from Osage uh with email documentation from the core saying 779 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:11,280 that there was no 408 uh permit required or any kind of NWP. Um and that is why 780 01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:14,680 we are bringing this um to your attention today. 781 01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:24,000 And I believe that's that's more or less it. So, just kind of as an update for um 782 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:28,079 what the site plan was in the original packet versus what I handed out today. 783 01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:33,760 Um I can read out the site numbers for you 784 01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:40,240 if you'd like. Um the far northern location PISB21 has been relocated from 785 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:48,319 the west side of Dyke Road there over to the east side. um PISB26 has been 786 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:52,480 removed and then there may have been slight discrepancy on the location of 787 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:56,640 PISB23 but that would be a difference of maybe a few feet which could just be 788 01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:01,079 attributed to somebody clicking on a different pixel on their mapping system. 789 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:09,039 So, what we are requesting tonight is that council authorize staff to sign the 790 01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:15,839 agreement uh forward that signed agreement over to Osage Pipeline and 791 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:19,640 permit them to begin their work um as early as September 14th. 792 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,679 » Any questions? >> I do. Um 793 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:34,000 » not sure what to ask. Rob, you said you got this map today. 794 01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:39,600 » Different Cooper. >> Oh, yeah. Sam, sorry. Yeah, there we go. 795 01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:42,640 Sam, yes, you got this map today, >> correct? 796 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:48,000 » Yes. So, the concern I think I've got is just as I'm looking at the 797 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:53,600 correspondence between TRC and the core. Um, this email is July 7th and it says, 798 01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:58,159 "Our team has reviewed your items for the subject request and does not believe 799 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:02,159 a 408 review will be needed for the project as shared. Please note, should 800 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:05,279 the scope of the project change, I ask that you share that with our team to 801 01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:09,199 re-evaluate to see if a review is needed." So, is what you got today 802 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:13,759 different than what they looked at before July 7th? 803 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:17,520 To that end, I'm not sure, but I don't believe that the difference between what 804 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:20,880 we originally received and this would be a difference in scope. 805 01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:26,400 » That would be the only concern I have based on the levy and the core's 806 01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:30,239 restrictions on touching that. >> Great. The the main the main difference 807 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:35,759 that I see between the two maps is that northern the PSIB21 808 01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:38,880 » um moving that from the west side of Dyke Road over to the east side. But 809 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,839 functionally, it's going to have the same concern to the core one way or the 810 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:45,120 other. So, if they didn't have an issue with it being over on the west side, 811 01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:50,440 they wouldn't have any issue with it being over on the east side. 812 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:50,440 Thanks. 813 01:09:52,400 --> 01:10:00,480 I suppose I should um clarify that as part of uh the negotiate, I'll call it 814 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:06,960 negotiations with Osage, we did have them add language into the agreement um 815 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:10,560 that strongly suggest or um strongly reinforce the requirement that they were 816 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:13,679 going to be responsible for uh repair and maintenance of of the work site 817 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:20,520 areas and that it would not be the responsibility uh for the city to to 818 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,520 clean up any work. 819 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:35,880 You look like you have a question or comment. 820 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:49,600 » Any other questions? >> Do you have any idea how deep these 821 01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:51,840 lines are? The pipes are in the ground. I can't hardly hear you over here 822 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,280 anyway. >> Sorry. Off the top of my head. I I don't 823 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,920 have that information available. >> You don't know how deep they are. I 824 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,960 mean, >> not off the top of my head. No, 825 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:14,280 » maybe this is just like me missing background because I'm new on council. 826 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:27,920 I just feel like um I need a little bit background of like how 827 01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:32,719 like the pipeline wants to use this land right to to do some kind of groundwater 828 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:37,679 monitoring monitoring for their company. Is that correct? Correct. 829 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:43,199 » Is that much? Okay. So then 830 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:47,440 they tear up our ground. They fix our ground 831 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,800 but to no benefit of the city other than just 832 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,199 allowing them to use it for their research. Is that right? Is that what 833 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,120 I'm getting? >> They have they have pipeline in the area 834 01:11:55,199 --> 01:12:02,719 already. So a lot of this is just making sure that the lines that are there are 835 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,199 not leaking or negatively impacting the area. 836 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:07,440 » So there there is a benefit for the community to be able to to know that 837 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:13,840 information. >> So there there there's monitoring wells 838 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:15,760 spread all over. this area because of the old refinery. 839 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:21,679 » Yeah. >> Um and some of that I think they're 840 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:25,440 required to do by KDH and other types of of sources. I I don't know their 841 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:28,400 particular circumstance, but a lot of times 842 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:31,440 » it's it's a requirement that's attached to that old refinery. 843 01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:36,560 » Um >> and yes, to to your point, we've never 844 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:41,199 had an agreement like that other than the restoration where there's like 845 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:45,199 compensation that is tied to that. It's just the restoration. 846 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:49,600 » And is it like because it's so close to the levy that it it needs approval of 847 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,920 it's because it's on the city property that 848 01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:55,280 » our concern was it because it's so close in proximity to the levy that we wanted 849 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,640 the court to be able to weigh in to say whether or not there was permitting 850 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:03,120 requirement. Our goal was to make sure that the city didn't just say go ahead 851 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:06,239 and drill do what you need to and then the court come in and say 852 01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:08,320 » you've ruined the levey we have to descertify it and create a whole bunch 853 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,440 of issues there. >> I know the levy is a big deal. 854 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:15,920 » Yeah. And similar to the last item that we just discussed, if it fits within the 855 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:19,520 the levy footprint, so you have the levey itself, which is the structure, 856 01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:23,840 and then there's something called the toe where essentially all of those 857 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:29,199 slopes stop. So within that footprint, uh the core of engineer has permitting 858 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:33,360 abilities. And anything that goes on in that footprint, they want to know about 859 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:37,840 it and make determinations what sort of permitting applies. And so in this case, 860 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:42,320 I think some of it was in the footprint, some of it's adjacent. So, we wanted to 861 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:46,239 make sure that the core was involved and weighed in before we did anything 862 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,040 accepting the agreement. So, that that was the background on 863 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:52,800 » it. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. And when staff received it, they had 864 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:56,960 indicated that they'd received approval from KDH and we said, "Great, we're 865 01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,719 going to send it to the core." >> Yeah. Okay. 866 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:03,679 » Um they're not the final approver on this item. So, 867 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,640 » yeah. Yeah. I just know we've talked a lot about how picky they are about the 868 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,719 levy and how expensive it can be to fix that. And tell me if I'm wrong. What I'm 869 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:14,719 hearing is they're required to do this maintenance to make sure nothing's 870 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:18,080 leaking and ruining our ground. Is that correct? 871 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:22,560 » That's my understanding. >> They're not doing it because they're 872 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:28,960 such a good citizen. They're doing it because the EPA and the Kir 873 01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:33,040 them to do it or some other government agency. 874 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,239 » I'm not trying to bash them, but >> no, 875 01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:39,679 » they're a business. They wouldn't do this if they didn't have to. 876 01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:42,640 » I just think it's in our town's best interest also to make sure it's not 877 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:48,560 leaking. >> Yeah. Containing command 878 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:52,800 » turn our land up. >> Contaminating. 879 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:57,199 » I move for the approval of a requested access agreement with Osage Pipeline 880 01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:00,880 Company LLC to access city property to perform soil boring and groundwater 881 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,040 monitoring activities on or near the city's levy. 882 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:07,440 » Second. >> Got a motion and a second. 883 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:10,320 All those in favor say I. >> I. 884 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:15,440 » Any opposed. >> Motion carries. Thank you, Sam. 885 01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:22,000 » Are you here for the next item? >> Yes, I am. 886 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:26,640 Item six, 2026-03 reszone from R2 887 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:33,040 small lot line and R1 single family residential to 888 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:36,000 an I1 industrial with a planned development overlay 889 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:39,840 staff. >> One second, Sam. Um, so mayor and 890 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:45,920 council, just for clarification, since you took no action on the library 891 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:50,960 ordinance, I believe that number was going to be ordinance number 2270. So I 892 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:56,719 think that that is the number that you would be considering here where it shows 893 01:15:52,960 --> 01:16:02,159 as blank. So uh, that plugs in the blank that's currently shown. 894 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,520 All right. And I'm sorry, the train was going. Are you ready for me? 895 01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:08,480 » The train was going and I couldn't hear. Are you ready for me? Yes. 896 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:12,320 » Okay. All right. >> But if the train starts, stop. 897 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:16,320 » Okay. All right. Uh again, thank you, council. 898 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:23,040 So, the um item that we have before us today is 899 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:27,600 little bit of a convoluted um item. It's a reasonzoning request for five 900 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:33,600 properties with a plan development overlay. Um the project location is 901 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:39,040 going to be roughly at the North Ohio and High Street intersection. 902 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:43,360 Um the uh developer and their agent are 903 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:52,560 here tonight, so if you have questions for them, um you can ask them here in a 904 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:58,320 minute. Um so 11:06 North Ohio and 1124 North Ohio are two properties that are 905 01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:05,280 part of this. they were acquired at uh um auction. 906 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:08,719 Um the developers plan to expand their current existing commercial self- 907 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:15,600 storage and recreational storage uh facility um by introducing I believe 908 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:20,320 three new or upwards of three new uh commercial storage facilities. On August 909 01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:24,480 12th, uh, planning commission heard the request for the reszone and plan 910 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:29,840 development overlay and recommended approval. 911 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:34,080 Um, since we don't see PDO requests in all that often, I did want to give kind 912 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:39,520 of a background on what a PDIO is and kind of the purpose. Um, so PDIO is a 913 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:44,880 plan development overlay. Uh really what the goal of a PDIO is is to provide site 914 01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:48,320 design flexibility um and development standards um for different kinds of 915 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:53,679 projects that may not necessarily cleanly fit into what zoning regulations 916 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:58,320 would ordinarily require. Um in addition to that, if if a developer comes in 917 01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:04,080 request says, "Hey, I'd like to do this PDO." Um the city then has the option or 918 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:07,760 opportunity to say we can do that but we're going to also put in some sightsp 919 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,400 specific uh restrictions and requirements um that are going to be 920 01:18:09,679 --> 01:18:18,480 specific to this particular development. U some of those restrictions can be um 921 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:23,040 restricting uh land uses um requiring buffering requiring lighting 922 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:28,080 requirements u fencing standards and operational standards. PDO will run with 923 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:33,920 the land and any kind of major deviations from the approved site plan 924 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:37,199 um the applicant would have to seek or the property owner in future years would 925 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,600 have to seek an amendment to the approved PDL. 926 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:48,320 All right, so we've got the site plan up here. Um couple of things to note. Uh 927 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:52,480 the green does not necessarily show up real well on the overhead there, so I 928 01:18:49,840 --> 01:19:01,679 apologize for that. Um but what we're looking at here overall is um the red is 929 01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:07,920 the uh site plan for the uh proposed resoning and plan development overlay. 930 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:10,960 The two green areas there are also going to be part of their property, but it 931 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:17,679 will be outside of the plan development overlay. Um the developers are intending 932 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:24,159 to leave those areas as as uh there are one designated zones uh for potential 933 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:30,640 redevelopment uh into um single family homes. Um but with the focus being on 934 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:35,280 that red area. Um you can see that there are uh several existing buildings. Uh in 935 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:40,080 the north there's going to be two new proposed buildings and then down to the 936 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:47,760 southwest is going to be a proposed building. um planning commission did 937 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:52,560 request that the applicants um add in a 30-foot 938 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:58,960 um landscape buffering and then a 20 or excuse me 40 foot um building set back 939 01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:06,040 to that front yard area. Oh, excuse me. Um that was to kind of help protect the 940 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,040 aesthetic along the north Ohio corridor. 941 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,560 Ohio Street's right here. 942 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:25,760 » I want to see the other map. >> Next slide. Yeah. 943 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:31,600 All right. Then as part of the recommended approval of the PDO, our 944 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:35,679 sites uh requirements um those will be dictated in the ordinance that's before 945 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:40,000 you. Um it's going to articulate permitted uses. Um basically it's going 946 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:44,480 to say that the only permitted land uses that are going to be within that uh PDO 947 01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:51,280 area is going to be commercial self storage and the ancillary um office 948 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:55,440 space uses. Um it's going to specific or excuse me it's going to prohibit uh 949 01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,159 specific industrial uses. Um it's going to set different operational 950 01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:05,120 restrictions uh set free street frontage restriction or standards. uh require 951 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:10,400 screening and buffering uh set lighting standards and set traffic circulation 952 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,199 standards. Uh so the goal with with all those restrictions is to really make 953 01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:18,320 sure that whatever development is going to be there um is going to be restricted 954 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:24,159 specifically to essentially the already existing um commercial self storage. Um, 955 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:30,960 so wi if it ultimately ends up being reszoned to that I1 with the PDIO 956 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:34,880 overlay, um, no other highintensity industrial use could come in and say, 957 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,920 "Hey, yep, I want to build whatever facility here. It would have to adhere 958 01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:40,920 to the standards that are in that PDO requirement." 959 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,840 » Hey Josh, can I see that Google map again? 960 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:52,400 » Yeah. And I can provide a little bit more background. So currently there's 961 01:21:49,280 --> 01:22:00,000 the commercial self storage facility that is there existing that existing 962 01:21:56,719 --> 01:22:04,080 property had three different zonings on it. So it was residential up front and 963 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:08,000 I'm sorry please correct me if I'm wrong from memory. I'm going off of memory 964 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:12,239 right now. I believe the front lot there were three lots. The front lot was 965 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:15,600 residential. This um second lot where the office building is where that green 966 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:20,320 roof is. Wait, that's residential. >> Yep. Then there was commercial and then 967 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:24,960 a portion of it is zoned is currently zoned industrial. 968 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:29,760 » Um so when the developer came in they were looking at acquiring additional 969 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:34,480 property to expand the business which those three houses off of Ohio. So those 970 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:39,520 are zoned residential and those properties go like all the way back. So 971 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:46,320 they're really long properties. Um, and they were 972 01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:51,840 looking to acquire a lot of that green space to expand the business. Um, they 973 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:56,960 were able to acquire two of those homes at auction. Um, and so we're what we're 974 01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:01,199 doing is we're separating those residential lots. The front portion will 975 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:07,360 remain residential zoning and the rear portion will be absorbed by the business 976 01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:10,960 and the whole property that's going to be used for the business. We're 977 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:18,080 requesting a reszone to industrial with that plan development overlay to protect 978 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:24,880 the use intensity into the future. So the PDO allows just the commercial self 979 01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:28,639 storage to be on that property. Um and if it was ever to become any other 980 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:35,440 business or sold, it would need to have an amendment done to that PO PDO. It 981 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:38,480 couldn't just be any industrial use. So >> So Cammy, 982 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:42,960 » there's a lot of moving parts, but But on on Ohio, we're keeping the 983 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:46,239 residential homes, though. Okay. >> I I would say we're not necessarily 984 01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:50,320 keeping the homes. It's keeping a residential zoning. 985 01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:53,520 » Okay. This is the second option that we had. We had the first one that kind of 986 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,600 put those out on the island, but we've corrected that. 987 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,600 » All right. >> I will say the developers had taken all 988 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:03,920 of our feedback and made adjustments to their PDO along the process. So all of 989 01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:07,520 the recommendations and feedback that staff has they've incorporated the 990 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:11,840 feedback we heard from the public and the planning commission they 991 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:14,239 incorporated and this is the final submission that was approved by the 992 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,679 planning commission. >> Thank you guys for working with us on 993 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:22,560 that. I was at that meeting and uh because that's W two and I had citizens 994 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:27,840 concern but we haven't changed it what you presented to the planning zoning 995 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:32,480 that hasn't changed on the since we've correct since they approved that. Right. 996 01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:32,480 Okay. Good. Thank you. 997 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,080 Council 998 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:55,440 » looks good to me. Yeah, I mean this was our way of supporting, you know, an 999 01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:00,719 existing business um and really trying to take 1000 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:07,920 advantage of some underutilized land um within the city still. 1001 01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:11,600 it will. So we, you know, we also hear through 1002 01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:15,840 all when we work with developers and different business owners, you know, 1003 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:20,159 having to invest a lot of money into these engineering plans and site 1004 01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:26,080 concepts. Um, so we did work with the developer to get them through the 1005 01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:30,239 reszoning and PDO process first and then as long that way they get the support 1006 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:36,800 from you guys to move forward and then they are also actively in the platting 1007 01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:41,440 and drainage process. So this will also come before you again as a plat with the 1008 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:48,800 drainage plan as well. My next question is we had the residential upfront, 1009 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:52,880 right? And so our house is our our town is in need of housing as we all know. 1010 01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:57,360 We're in a housing crisis. Will you be able to allow any builders 1011 01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:02,639 to develop those two up front that are residents? You will and you'll work with 1012 01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:08,639 them. Okay. >> Yeah. I will make a note that that does 1013 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:12,400 not have an impact on your vote for the reasoner PDIO. So we are 1014 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,040 » an impact on mine. >> I'm sorry 1015 01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:21,120 on mine. >> Well the reasonzoning 1016 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:25,520 that is more of a business transaction a private business dealing and it cannot 1017 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:30,239 be used in your decision making process for the reszone. You're looking at it's 1018 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:34,560 whether you want those front lots to stay residential and whether you want to 1019 01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:36,880 look at industrial I could look at the big picture in our future 5 years down 1020 01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:43,120 the road. >> But who they enter into a development 1021 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:45,440 contract with is not for the city council to decide. 1022 01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:48,080 » Yeah. Not really. >> That's what I'm getting at is 1023 01:26:46,639 --> 01:26:52,320 » Yeah. I think you and I are not on the same page. I think you think I'm trying 1024 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,480 to uh do something I'm not trying to do. I'm just I'm just asking 1025 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,600 » I'm just trying to give you the appropriate legal advice for the things 1026 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,760 that you're considering when you're making your decision. 1027 01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:06,520 » Thank you. >> You said moving parts. 1028 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,520 » There are a lot of moving parts. Yes. 1029 01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:12,960 » My name is Jimmy. Um I'm the developer. Thank you for having me here. Thank you 1030 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:18,880 for seeing this project. Um letting it be presented. Our our intention as 1031 01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:24,800 storage developers is to not take away viable residential housing. um because 1032 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:29,040 it is a crisis all over the nation. With that said, those two houses, I 1033 01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:35,040 walked inside of them, they are unlivable. They are in an unlivable 1034 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:39,440 state. Um so our intention is to scrape them and then put two blank residential 1035 01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:41,920 lots back on the market. >> Thank you. 1036 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:46,800 » That that's our intention. >> Thank you, J. So, uh, when you build the 1037 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:50,960 the next couple pieces back here, is is it going to be like a 1038 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:54,560 a lot of concrete or is it going to be rock, some kind of pvious? 1039 01:27:52,400 --> 01:28:01,320 » It'll be asphalt as Yeah, that's what's on the PDIO overlay is is asphalt 1040 01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,320 paving. An imperous pavement, 1041 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:10,000 » any kind of ponds for runoff or >> because I mean, we we all know how the 1042 01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:15,159 the water travels through town. that that will be at a later date once we get 1043 01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:15,159 through the platting process. 1044 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,960 » And we had those preliminary conversations with them when they first 1045 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:28,080 came into our office before we even went down the PDO route is that there would 1046 01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:32,159 be some drainage that needed to be addressed, some significant drainage. 1047 01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:38,320 Um, so they they've been aware of that as they're building out these plans. 1048 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:44,000 » Thank you. So, um, Matthew Tucker, agent for the applicant. Um, what the next 1049 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:48,159 thing that you guys are going to see, as Cammy had mentioned, is the platting 1050 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:52,320 process. And inside that platting process, we have to do a drainage report 1051 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:56,880 that will be based on the site plan that also has to go through permitting. And 1052 01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:01,120 um, a big part of this was actually the discussions and we've had meetings. 1053 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:04,560 we've got to satisfy some drainage needs in the area because of the capacity of 1054 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:09,120 that channel back there because of some city requirements and things. So, um 1055 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:12,800 those documents are all in the process of getting submitted. They'll have to go 1056 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:16,400 through their reviews and a final site plan review to make sure that we don't 1057 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:21,040 negatively impact the drainage. I can tell you that this PDO doesn't show any 1058 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:23,679 final design for drainage, but it is absolutely something that we have to 1059 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:27,960 consider on the site. >> Okay. Thank you. Y 1060 01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:27,960 » thank you. 1061 01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:37,600 Any other questions, >> Cammy? For that Southwest building 1062 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:40,239 that's proposed where it has that 30foot landscape buffer, what does that 1063 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:44,560 actually >> look like? 1064 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:48,560 » Um, would you like to speak to it, Matt? >> Thank you. 1065 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:51,679 » So, uh, the landscape buffer is kind of a unique thing to this site and we had 1066 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:57,040 to kind of jump through some hoops to define what that really was. Uh the 1067 01:29:53,840 --> 01:30:01,120 intent of that or or um the reason that that's there is it was one of the 1068 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:06,159 outcomes of the back and forth with the planning commission and and city staff. 1069 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,600 There's a an old Yes, that tree right there. That tree right there is what's 1070 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,360 driving the landscape buffer. We wanted to make sure that we stayed outside of 1071 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:17,679 the root system for that tree. Um there's a desire that was expressed at 1072 01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:21,600 the planning commission meeting that we don't ruin the feel of the neighborhood. 1073 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:26,960 And so we wanted to ensure that there would be street tree space and green 1074 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:32,560 space out front um beyond just what you govern with a building setback. So the 1075 01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:38,080 landscape buffer is going to prevent any paving out front there in that space. So 1076 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:43,920 it's going to make sure that our our screening fence and any paving or orisle 1077 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:49,199 is back behind that 30foot. And that's why we put that in there. um that is in 1078 01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:53,600 line with what would be the building setback for those residential lots to 1079 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:57,920 the north. So, we're actually going to ensure not only are we not upstaging 1080 01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:02,800 those residential lots, but we're ensuring a a nice green space out in 1081 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:07,679 front and then our building set back is even further back yet. 1082 01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:10,880 » Thank you. And I saw in the PDO requirements that some type of 1083 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:14,960 architectural element was for the street facing side 1084 01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:17,600 of it as well. So there's intended to be some of that on that that faces Ohio. 1085 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:22,639 » Correct. >> And then on that Google map photo where 1086 01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:28,080 the stone fence to the south of that proposed building ends and it turns to 1087 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:32,400 rot iron. Is there an intent to screen that more so that that new building is 1088 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:36,560 not visible from the cemetery right there or what is that plan? 1089 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,639 » So there is a screening requirement that requires that 8 foot solid screening. I 1090 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:45,840 believe I'd have to go back to the survey. I'm not sure if you can tell on 1091 01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:50,560 the PDO where the end of that uh masonry >> wall is versus the the landscaping 1092 01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:53,440 buffer, but the landscaping buffer, that 30 foot landscaping buffer, that's going 1093 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:57,440 to be about where that screening wall is. And so that screening wall would 1094 01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:01,040 would be required to be continuous at least to to connect to that if that 1095 01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:04,880 doesn't come as far forward as that 30-foot buffer. I think that may 1096 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:07,280 actually be pretty close to where your 30- foot buffer is. 1097 01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:12,719 » Yeah, it kind of looks like that. And I just noticed that on that PDIO, the 8 1098 01:32:09,679 --> 01:32:17,280 foot buffer is delineated on the north side of it, but it's not on the south 1099 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:19,840 side. So that's why I was asking >> the 8ft buffer. 1100 01:32:18,639 --> 01:32:26,080 » Yeah, the 8 foot buffer. >> We've focused more on the north side 1101 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:28,639 around the residential properties, >> right? 1102 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:32,400 » Yeah. The 8ft screening fence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's got to come 1103 01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:36,480 there's if you zoom in on that, I don't know if you can, but there's kind of a 1104 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:40,320 squared fence line. That fence has got to come all the way down along those 1105 01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:46,800 residential lots on the back, too. Right. Um it's it's a general screening 1106 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:50,159 requirement. And it actually should stop um at the landscaping buffer there where 1107 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,320 it hits Ohio. >> Yeah, 1108 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:57,760 » it looks like it does not. It should. Uh and then that that buffer fence would 1109 01:32:56,159 --> 01:33:03,679 then come down along the landscape buffer line. 1110 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:06,239 » And did we have public comment for the planning? 1111 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:11,440 » We did. And what was the public comment? >> Um, well, we received some written 1112 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:15,760 communication. We had some conversations over the phone. We did have some comment 1113 01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:20,239 at the public hearing, but do you want to speak to it? 1114 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:26,320 » Yes, I would kind of preface >> summaries. Um yeah, I would kind of 1115 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:30,080 preface the the public comments um with the idea that we had originally sent out 1116 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:35,440 public notifications for an original version of the PDIO site plan um that 1117 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:39,360 ultimately was not presented to planning commission. So some of them the public 1118 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:43,120 comments that received are in relation to that first plan that weren't 1119 01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:51,600 necessarily applicable to the current plan. Um but in general a lot of the 1120 01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:56,080 concerns were related to uh traffic um impact to just kind of neighborhood 1121 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:59,199 character and then kind of what the ultimate vision for the city is long 1122 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:05,040 term. there there was some feedback about 1123 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:09,520 maintaining those three front properties as residential 1124 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:15,600 um and keeping those as residential and then also some feedback of they're 1125 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:21,280 supportive of this PDO and the expansion um but they don't want to see a lot more 1126 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:28,960 industrial and probably even some commercial in this specific corridor. 1127 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:32,719 » That's my questions. I would just say I applaud you guys for working with them 1128 01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:37,480 and building the feedback into your plan. So, appreciate that. 1129 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,480 » Agreed. 1130 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,960 Council, 1131 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:58,400 I move for the approval of ordinance number 2270 1132 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:02,560 reszoning certain property within the city of Augusta, Kansas to an A1 1133 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:07,679 industrial zoning district with a plan development overlay PDIO approving a PDO 1134 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,880 site development plan and amending the official zoning map of the city of 1135 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:15,280 Augusta, Kansas. >> Second. And then that's I1. 1136 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:20,400 » Oh, sorry. What did I say? >> A1, 1137 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:26,159 » guys. It's almost 9:00. I'm real tired. You want me to resend 1138 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:30,719 it to I1. >> You still second. 1139 01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:34,639 » She amended her movement motion. I said second. Second, third, fourth, and 1140 01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:39,040 fifth. >> All those in favor say I. 1141 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:45,600 » I. Oh, it's a roll. >> It doesn't say that. 1142 01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:47,920 Well, I said Martin. >> Hey, I'm sorry. 1143 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:49,360 » It's a roll call vote since it's an ordinance. 1144 01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:52,080 » Oh, it is. >> Martin, it doesn't say that on the 1145 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,360 » Yes. >> Lick Lighter, 1146 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,719 » yes. >> Bailey, 1147 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:55,920 » yes. >> Scott, 1148 01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:57,280 » yes. >> Richardson, 1149 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,480 » yes. >> Davis, 1150 01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,600 » yes. >> Whitey, 1151 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,560 » yes. >> Mah, 1152 01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:06,000 » yes. >> Motion carries. 1153 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:13,000 » Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for 1154 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,000 investing in our town. 1155 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:19,199 » Wow. >> Item seven, guaranteed maximum price 1156 01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:23,760 amendment with Don Winger and Sons Construction for the August public works 1157 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:30,000 complex staff. 1158 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:35,040 » Yes. Uh, mayor and council, this item is uh related to past actions that you've 1159 01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:39,600 taken on the public works complex as you recall uh in 1160 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:44,639 » Hang on. Josh, I >> I can't hear you. Something's wrong. 1161 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:47,639 » Yeah, I've been >> Okay. 1162 01:36:50,639 --> 01:37:00,080 In uh May of 2026, the council entered into a contract, a construction manager 1163 01:36:56,719 --> 01:37:05,040 at risk semar contract with Don Linger and Sun's construction. As you remember, 1164 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:10,880 as you might recall, under that model, we are working in partnership where the 1165 01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:17,280 contractor, our engineer, and the city are a team that are actively working on 1166 01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:23,760 the design on value engineering from the beginning as a team. And up to this 1167 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:30,719 point, the council has authorized the um the maximum amounts for certain line 1168 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:37,440 items but not for the overall project. And uh those it those line items were 1169 01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:43,760 updated on August 3rd, 2026. It shows that list that was included tonight. 1170 01:37:40,719 --> 01:37:48,080 What you have before you is the uh the guaranteed maximum limit essentially for 1171 01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:54,159 all of the other line items in the project. So this is setting the maximum 1172 01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:58,719 for the overall project. Uh that number was negotiated between staff, between 1173 01:37:56,639 --> 01:38:04,920 the engineer and with Don Linger. And the guaranteed maximum price came out at 1174 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,920 7,520,913. 1175 01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:15,280 That is also inclusive of uh over $300,000 in contingency. So we've left 1176 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:20,239 us some some room in case anything comes up. uh if it doesn't come up then that 1177 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:27,119 that is money that we don't necessarily have to spend. Um this also gives this 1178 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:32,239 the ability to to be under as well. But if you're going to exceed any of the 1179 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:37,679 align items, that can only be done by a change order approved 1180 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:42,800 uh by council. Um 1181 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:48,000 what I'm going to show you as you have this contract. I'm going to skip down to 1182 01:38:45,679 --> 01:38:52,719 where the line item proposal is because this shows you 1183 01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:57,600 um essentially the whole scope of the project. If you all can see it, you may 1184 01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,040 not be able to read every single line from what I'm showing up here unless I 1185 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:05,520 zoom in really close, but do you see the green color that's in the notes section 1186 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:10,880 off to the right? That bullet point list. Uh this green color is showing 1187 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:15,760 what you had previously approved and what you had locked in. The amendment 1188 01:39:13,679 --> 01:39:19,920 before you tonight, everything that is not shown as green is getting locked in 1189 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:26,800 as a maximum price. So that's the overall contract, but that's also on a 1190 01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:33,480 line item basis as well. And so uh this sets the overall uh maximum number of 1191 01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,480 7,520,913. 1192 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,119 You can see down here. 1193 01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:54,159 So there is your maximum number. This number includes 375,000 of contingency. 1194 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:59,360 So there is protection in case we uh we run into something as part of the 1195 01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:03,840 project. Uh but otherwise I think staff was happy with the discussions with Don 1196 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:06,960 Linger. we've already come up with a couple of small things or there may be 1197 01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:12,800 more along the way. The point of having the team is to do value engineering and 1198 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:16,159 work throughout uh the process to to try to save money where we can and where it 1199 01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:19,520 makes sense. And so we already have a couple of small ideas, but there may be 1200 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:23,840 some other things that come up as we're building where we can potentially try to 1201 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:28,960 lower that even more. Uh but this is within the budget that we had 1202 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:35,440 established for the project and so we uh feel comfortable with this pricing and 1203 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:41,520 uh the recommendation tonight is for us to go ahead and move forward and lock 1204 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:48,400 this in our guaranteed maximum price. In uh in doing so, we will officially begin 1205 01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:51,600 the uh the mobilization process. So all the way up to this point, all the 1206 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:55,760 decades and years that we've been working uh towards this moment, we're 1207 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,119 still not technically in a construction phase, but once you authorize that 1208 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:03,520 amendment and have set the guaranteed max on the project, then Don Linger uh 1209 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:07,520 can start planning their construction. And I believe that their mobilization 1210 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:12,400 plan is to be on site in November starting. Um and then it's going to be a 1211 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,880 pretty lengthy construction. There's a lot of buildings and things that go 1212 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:20,159 along with it, a lot of utility upgrades, but they will be mobilizing 1213 01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:24,320 in November according to the latest project schedule that's conceived in 1214 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:28,960 this amendment. So, with that, I'll turn it over to you if you have any 1215 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:32,880 questions. Uh Brad is also uh up to speed and in speaking with the other JO 1216 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:36,000 folks that have been working with us on this. So, we'll we'll try to answer 1217 01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:39,000 everything that that you have for us tonight. 1218 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:46,960 If if I could, Josh always does a really good job of summarizing just one 1219 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:52,159 insertion. So, between now and groundbreaking in November, 1220 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:55,840 uh we're going to advertise uh hopefully within a week. So, if you 1221 01:41:53,760 --> 01:42:00,159 guys approve tonight, we advertise within a week. So, what you have in 1222 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:05,199 front of you is like this is my understanding is this is what Doner says 1223 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:10,639 they'll bid it for. And that's why it's a guaranteed max price. But every item, 1224 01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:16,159 every line item we can get a competitive bid on, we're going to get at least 1225 01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:21,199 three competitive bid on bids on so the price can come under that GMP. So that's 1226 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:25,040 going to happen a week from now. We'll have three weeks of bidding. Uh so 1227 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:29,040 that's kind of open book. It's very transparent. It's very regulated how it 1228 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:33,840 has to happen in this in the Semar process. Um where we're getting these 1229 01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:39,520 competitive bids. Doninger has to submit theirs kind of in a sealed envelope. 1230 01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:43,520 um you know they can't get the other biders bids and say I'm going to be at 1231 01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:48,320 $1 under that. So they have to submit first and then you get these other bids 1232 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:53,199 from the other vendors. So hopefully we come in even below and then everything 1233 01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:57,280 everything before and after that what Josh said is correct. So we're hoping to 1234 01:42:55,360 --> 01:43:01,440 break ground. They told me this calendar year they told me November but they said 1235 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:05,600 don't promise council November. So this calendar year for breaking ground 1236 01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:08,239 hopefully November. I think we should ribbon cutting in November no matter 1237 01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:12,320 what. >> I heard it. Yeah. 1238 01:43:10,719 --> 01:43:18,960 » Or a groundbreaking. Maybe get the golden shovels out there or something. 1239 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:23,119 » Josh, not related to the guaranteed maximum, but just the project in general 1240 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:26,800 when they do break ground. Um, will the compost pile be still available and 1241 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:30,000 relocated or what will that look like? >> We've already relocated the compost pile 1242 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:34,639 to its location >> for it was moved for this project. Yeah. 1243 01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:38,840 So it won't be moved again. >> It No, it should be perfect. 1244 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:52,159 » This might be a stupid question, but uh we got this maximum bid of 7 million 1245 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:54,960 five. What happens if it goes above that? If something happens and we got to 1246 01:43:54,159 --> 01:44:00,320 go above that. >> The point of the guaranteed max is for 1247 01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:04,480 that to be your guaranteed max. Now, if it's going to exceed any of those 1248 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:07,280 individual line items, that cannot be done without your approval. 1249 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:11,719 » It cannot be what? >> It cannot be done without your approval. 1250 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:18,560 » So, if they go over and they come back and say, "We can't finish this project 1251 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:25,040 because we don't have your approval." 1252 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:28,800 Are we stuck with a halfbuilt situation? >> I I wouldn't believe so. I mean the 1253 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:32,480 point of having a guaranteed max is you are setting the limits on the project. 1254 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:35,199 So Don Langanger has bid it accordingly to deliver the project. 1255 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,960 » Okay. >> I'm just playing the devil's ad going 1256 01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:42,560 through this process where you have the individual line item and the individual 1257 01:44:40,639 --> 01:44:47,199 elements. It'll have competitive bids as well. The goal is to try to get it even 1258 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:52,080 lower. It doesn't it would not behoove them at all to not deliver on that 1259 01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:58,400 contract. And and part of the reason for doing the selection process you did when 1260 01:44:54,880 --> 01:45:02,480 Don Linger was selected was to work with a vendor that you felt comfortable 1261 01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:07,040 forming a partnership with of that nature to deliver the project. Don 1262 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:12,960 Linger has is an experienced developer, an experienced builder. They have built 1263 01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:17,840 many projects for us quite substantial scale and uh we went through a selection 1264 01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:22,639 process to choose them as opposed to other potential vendors. part of that 1265 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:28,000 consideration being the likelihood that they deliver the project. So 1266 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:33,760 that that was background before this. Now you can have issues with any single 1267 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:37,760 contract that you ever execute, but we went through a process to end up with a 1268 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:41,360 good vendor that we trusted and and that's where we're at at this moment. 1269 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:44,719 » I've been snake bit before. I need more money. I need more money. So that's what 1270 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:51,119 I'm coming from. >> Josh said that very well. Um, staff has 1271 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:54,960 talked about I think we have a very good contractor. 1272 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:59,199 I think they have a good reputation. I think they're local. I think they 1273 01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:05,679 understand that their reputation rides with these. Uh, but there is never no 1274 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:10,159 risk. This is a this is a site that has had what's underground. We don't know 1275 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:14,800 exhaustively. When they start breaking ground, we might find unsuitable soils. 1276 01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:18,719 We might find un unanticipated utilities. 1277 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:23,760 So, like I think the key risk that we've talked about internally and with staff 1278 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:28,800 is uh when we're digging foundations, what are we going to find there? Like 1279 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:31,440 it's if if we come back to you, hopefully we don't come back to you at 1280 01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:35,760 all because we're doing this under the sub the GMP, but if we do, it's probably 1281 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,639 because we're finding something underground that we just we don't know 1282 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:41,880 till we start digging. >> Good point. 1283 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:59,199 Make a motion to approve the guaranteed maximum price amendment 1284 01:46:56,719 --> 01:47:02,000 pursuant to section 3.2.6 of the agreement with Doninger and Suns 1285 01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:05,760 Construction Company for the Augusta Public Works campus project to approve 1286 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,320 and establish a guaranteed maximum price. 1287 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,320 » Second. >> It keeps going. 1288 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:14,239 » Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. 1289 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:19,880 » I. >> Any opposed? 1290 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,880 Motion carries. 1291 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,719 » Thank you. Thank you. 1292 01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:36,000 » Okay. Item number eight. We want to appoint somebody to the League of Kansas 1293 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:39,000 Mun Municipalities voting delegate appointment. 1294 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:46,159 Kip, you want to do that? 1295 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:49,600 » I'm the only one going to it. Already said I get to it. 1296 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:53,119 » Make a motion to >> point Kip Richardson as the city's 1297 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:56,320 voting delegate at the League of Kansas Municipalities annual business meeting 1298 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:59,600 and convention of voting delegates. >> Second. 1299 01:47:57,679 --> 01:48:01,360 » Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. 1300 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:06,000 » I. >> Any opposed? 1301 01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:11,920 Motion carries. Item H, 1302 01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:16,080 matters from and for council. So, we need to consider selection of the 1303 01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:20,800 city council members to serve on the safe streets for all steering committee. 1304 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:26,400 What >> Cammy? Is that your committee? 1305 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,400 » You do or don't? >> Um, sure. 1306 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,560 » Yes. >> Yes. We 1307 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,719 » Yes. >> We need one or two. 1308 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:37,840 » You told me it was your >> Yes. We need one or two council members. 1309 01:48:35,440 --> 01:48:42,159 Um, it's not a fixed number how many you want to appoint. I think any more than 1310 01:48:39,679 --> 01:48:45,199 two is probably too many. Uh, if you only want one, that's fine. But if we 1311 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:48,000 can find one or two that would participate, that would be great. 1312 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,679 » I volunteer. >> I volunteer. 1313 01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:52,560 » Yep. >> Kip volunteer. 1314 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:56,199 » Did I hear Jake? >> Jake. 1315 01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:56,199 » Yeah. 1316 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:06,560 » Do we need to vote on them? if he could motion and vote to appoint. 1317 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:10,080 » Okay. Make a motion. 1318 01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:18,320 » I make a motion to appoint Kip Richardson and Jake Maher uh to let me 1319 01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:24,480 find it to the city's voting delegation at the League of Nove to serve on the 1320 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:27,040 state streets. I'm sorry. All staring committee. I apologize. 1321 01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:29,920 » Second. >> These glasses don't work. 1322 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:35,520 » Got a motion in a second. All those in favor say I. I. 1323 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:40,239 » Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay. Mr. Martin, do you have anything 1324 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:47,840 tonight? Yes. I have one item um 1325 01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:54,880 in the block of um Clark Street, the 200 East 1326 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:58,400 block, eastern 200 block of Clark Street. 1327 01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:04,880 um had a citizen 1328 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:08,639 very upset about the bricks that are in the road. 1329 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:12,719 And uh when it does rain, we haven't had any rain for a while, but when it does 1330 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:19,920 rain, it holds water where he parks his car, his truck, and it uh very slippery, 1331 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:26,000 but some of the bricks are coming clear up out of the road. I drove through it 1332 01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:31,920 today and uh it is a site that needs to be taken 1333 01:50:29,440 --> 01:50:37,199 care of, but a lot of the people that live on the south side of that street in 1334 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:42,719 there, it's really, really, really rough. And um 1335 01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:46,400 that's all I have, Mr. Mayor. >> Okay. 1336 01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:48,800 Matt, have you got anything? >> Nothing, Mr. Mayor. 1337 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:55,280 » Bob, >> nothing. Mr. 1338 01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:59,360 I all I got is to echo what Mike said. I had people reach out to me this past 1339 01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:04,639 couple weeks about the same thing, same spot, same place, and they're getting 1340 01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:09,199 highly frustrated over there. And that's all I got. 1341 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:13,280 Kim. >> Yeah. I just wanted to um I guess 1342 01:51:11,679 --> 01:51:18,880 reiterate that we got this meeting coming up on the 14th 1343 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:25,119 and you know public participation you know would be great in input and things 1344 01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:30,239 on this so we know kind of have an idea what you want. I know we've heard from 1345 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:35,760 and listened to and seen on Facebook and things several things that have been 1346 01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:39,360 mentioned and things, but uh I'd like to like I said rather I'd rather somebody 1347 01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:42,760 come down and talk to us rather than see it on Facebook 1348 01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:48,840 can just Monday the 14th at 5:30 here. 1349 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:53,280 » Sean, >> nothing for me. 1350 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:57,199 » Nothing, Mr. Mayor. >> Okay. 1351 01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:03,599 » Nothing, sir. Mr. Richardson. All right. Mr. Mayor, 1352 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:10,960 make a motion to go move into recess and executive session from 9:07 p.m. to for 1353 01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:13,760 15 minutes um for preliminary discussion of the acquisition of real property 1354 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:19,480 pursuant to the preliminary discussion of the acquisition of real property 1355 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,480 exception KSA754319 1356 01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:26,320 uh B6. I asked the city manager Shaw, assistant city manager Cammy Schro, and 1357 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:30,639 the city attorney join the council executive session. The open meeting of 1358 01:52:27,679 --> 01:52:34,840 the governing body will reconvene at uh 7:15 20 1359 01:52:35,440 --> 01:52:39,360 » 22 >> 9:22 p.m. 1360 01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:43,199 » Second. >> Motion a second. All those in favor say 1361 01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:49,679 I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 1362 01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:53,000 Let's go to the little room over there. Thanks, Major. 1363 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,560 » Do you remember Major 1364 02:06:34,159 --> 02:06:38,560 You're >> okay. 1365 02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:40,880 » Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to exit executive session where no action was 1366 02:06:40,239 --> 02:06:44,239 taken. >> Second. 1367 02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:45,920 » Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. 1368 02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:50,560 » I. >> Any oppose? Motion carries. Mr. Mr. 1369 02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:55,520 Mayor, I make a motion to recession executive session 1370 02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:59,199 from 9:23 to 9:38 p.m. for preliminary discussion of the acquisition of real 1371 02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:05,360 property property pursuant to the preliminary discussion acquisition of 1372 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:09,040 real property exception KSA 754319B6 as the city manager Josh Shaw assistant 1373 02:07:07,119 --> 02:07:12,719 city manager Cammy Shro and city man attorney join the council in executive 1374 02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:17,360 session the open meeting of the governing bar reconvening the council 1375 02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:21,840 chambers at 9:38 p.m. >> Second. Got a motion and a second. All 1376 02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:28,920 those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. We'll be 1377 02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:28,920 back in 15 minutes. 1378 02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:59,920 May I make a motion to executive sess exit executive session where no action 1379 02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:02,880 was taken? >> Second. 1380 02:23:00,880 --> 02:23:04,479 » Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. 1381 02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:08,720 » I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 1382 02:23:07,439 --> 02:23:16,000 » Mr. May I make a motion to go in executive session for 20 minutes um from 1383 02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:19,680 9:38 p.m. to 9:58 p.m. to discuss a developers agreement pursuant to the 1384 02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:22,880 consultation with an attorney for the public body or agency which will be 1385 02:23:21,200 --> 02:23:26,880 deemed privileged in the attorney client relationship justification of executive 1386 02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:33,120 sessions under the Kansas Open Meetings Act KSA 75 4319B2 and to invite city 1387 02:23:31,439 --> 02:23:38,240 manager Josh Shaw assistant city manager Cammy Schae and assistant city attorney 1388 02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:42,160 Andrew Marino. The open meeting will resume the city council chambers at 9:59 1389 02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:47,040 p.m. >> Second. Got a motion and a second. All 1390 02:23:45,439 --> 02:23:50,399 those in favor say I. >> I. 1391 02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:56,439 » Any opposed? Motion carries. We'll be back in 20 minutes. Just about 10:00, 1392 02:23:53,439 --> 02:23:56,439 folks. 1393 02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:28,479 He can make it there before they close. >> May I make a motion to exit executive 1394 02:42:26,800 --> 02:42:29,840 session where no action was taken? >> Second. 1395 02:42:28,800 --> 02:42:34,399 » Second. >> Got a motion and a second to exit 1396 02:42:32,240 --> 02:42:37,760 executive session where no action was taken. All those in favor say I. 1397 02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:42,080 » I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 1398 02:42:40,399 --> 02:42:46,640 » Mr. Mayor, make a motion to journ this meeting. Second. 1399 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:50,080 » Got a motion and a couple seconds to uh end the meeting for the evening. All 1400 02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:54,240 those in favor say I. >> I. 1401 02:42:50,720 --> 02:42:59,800 » Any opposed? Motion carries. Remember, next Monday night, 5:30 here, budget 1402 02:42:56,800 --> 02:42:59,800 meeting. 1403 02:43:05,439 --> 02:43:09,040 » Yeah. >> Good night.