1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 met. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Um and they'll go through a final planning uh site review upon their 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,000 completion. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:19,000 And I know junkyard passed their site 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:24,200 fire code review. The other one we can't discuss, but I 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,200 will like say 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Riding, you come up here and make these assumptions cuz you know we cannot reply 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,000 and but please make them accurate and true. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:41,480 That's all I got to say. >> And also um in regards to Brothers Auto, 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,640 they did not have to go back to the planning commission. They are 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:49,240 non-conformant. You cannot take a non-conformant away because of the fire. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:53,000 It's a Michigan state law. That's the law. So and I did make sure 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,960 that Robert got caught up. >> go through planning cuz it's a 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,880 non-conformant site. >> Right. They do not have to go through 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,320 planning because it is a non-conformant and it has been 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,000 went through the county. Everything's been done correctly. 17 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:10,560 » And what happens too, that I've said this before and I stated it out once and 18 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:15,520 I'll state it again. Had we have a fought this man and not 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,880 allowed him to replace his building, right? One, we'd have been in the wrong. 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,880 Two, Lance Confection, the gas station, the 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:29,080 restaurant, township hall, any of the uh the grocery store in town or liquor 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,480 store, whatever you want to call it, all these buildings, if they were to burn 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:37,680 down, you can't rebuild them if we were allowed to him 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,920 if we had not allowed him to rebuild. If you can't rebuild, you can't get 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,120 insurance. You cannot get the place to you can't 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:49,560 get anybody to finance you if you try to buy or sell a place. 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:53,960 So that's just completely is a complete asinine ordeal that thank God we got 28 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,840 rectified. >> Yeah. Well, it's it's plain as day. It's 29 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,200 uh Look at the Michigan State Law. It's 30 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:08,479 very clear. You cannot take away a non-conformance because of a fire. 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,479 Very clear. Black and white. 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:19,520 » Once again, our zoning ordinance cannot override state law. 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:24,520 » Yeah, doesn't matter what the township ordinance said if it doesn't comply with 34 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,920 the state law. That's not the You the law's going to the Michigan 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,240 State Law is going to supersede the township every time. Just like the 36 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:35,640 county's going to supersede the township. 37 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Local, county, federal, state, federal. >> And another thing that's of dire 38 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:46,880 importance, it's very important that this gets told. 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:55,200 They the fire chief is asking for help. He needs men, boots on the ground. 40 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:58,520 And you and and to I vote I vote for his uh 41 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:03,440 millage get passed. He need they need help because on multiple occasions he's 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:08,120 come to the aid of my mother who's passed away now, but thank God they were 43 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,200 there. There's a lot of people in this community 44 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:16,360 that one man in his striving 40s 45 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,560 needs help to do. Uh 46 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,880 uh he needs help. And there's no other way around it. The only time you're 47 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:26,800 going to piss and moan and cry, I said it I 48 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:31,400 did good. Wrong time anybody's going to complain and cry is when they need that 49 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:36,720 help and nobody's there. So it needs to be that it's very very 50 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:42,360 important that he's asking for money and finances 51 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:48,440 for more men on the ground. >> I just want to make one comment on that. 52 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:53,000 The chief is asking to help us. You know, it's not to help him, right? 53 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,600 He's asking to help the community. That That helped him personally. He's coming 54 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,560 here every time. He's talking to people. He's doing a great job of explaining 55 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,680 what's needed for us. >> That's right. 56 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:08,040 » What were you saying Sue about >> Well, I got two things. So, Pete, yeah. 57 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,522 So, you're going to do the math on this, so I need to answer your question about 58 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,680 1 or 2 years. >> [laughter] 59 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,440 » Since you're not going to do the math, I'm not going to explain it. But, 60 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,239 actually >> I'll come in I'll come in and see you. 61 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,720 » Okay. >> I'll be 62 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:28,760 » Because I I can tell you what we did for this situation to to get the maximum 63 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:32,919 benefit out out of our water loss that's just in its infancy. 64 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,080 That, you know, it's been lowered for, you know, 5 months, so. 65 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,880 » I'll I'll come in and see you. >> And we did I think we did good. So, I 66 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,720 want to ask Keith, you made in your report that the 67 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,720 planning commission went through two pages. 68 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,320 » Four. >> Four. 69 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:55,080 » Oh, Facebook, too. >> So, how many How many pages is that data 70 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:58,560 center ordinance that they're reviewing? And how long have they been 71 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,919 » It's like 20 20 something. They just started. 72 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,120 And they have three more. >> And And And when did it start? 73 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,400 » This was like last last week. >> This is the second 74 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,120 This is >> This was first meeting next week. This 75 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,600 last Wednesday. >> So, so 76 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:20,640 » meeting we're going to have. >> So, we did not have the planner 77 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:25,720 bring this up at our meeting and their meeting until last 78 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,280 meeting. Like they just started on this. 79 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,360 » Yeah. >> No, it's it's come up before. 80 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,880 » Well, it came up before, but we're going to start reviewing it. 81 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:40,800 » But, no, I mean, there was another ordinance that they said they 82 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,840 Yeah, that they didn't agree with at all. So, then he went and 83 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,760 found a different more suitable >> So, when was that? 84 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,160 » That was months ago. >> Maybe 5 85 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,160 April, May. 6 months ago. 86 00:05:53,480 --> 00:06:01,440 » So it's 20 pages and they went through two 87 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:05,280 pages. So, what what what is the plan to go through this 20 pages? 88 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,080 Do they have a plan? >> Yeah. 89 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:12,160 » I mean, I'm concerned. I went to the planning commission and unfortunately 90 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:17,160 this last meeting and I could not stay and I didn't I wanted to ask do you have 91 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:21,560 an outline? Do you have a plan because I was a little concerned with we're going 92 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:26,720 to do two pages at a time. But we can also go back and revisit 93 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:31,400 if we're not sure later. So, we're going to we can circle back and Robert York 94 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:35,720 said that three times and I was very concerned with that. Like 95 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:40,440 this is going to be a circular I mean, what's going on? But anyway, 20 96 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:45,640 pages and and so how long is it going to take to read 97 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,640 » two sections for next month. 98 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Well, I don't have the whole thing. 99 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,760 But that's like four six pages. 100 00:06:54,919 --> 00:06:59,320 » So, next time it's going to be five pages? 101 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:03,680 » Yeah, right around there. >> Okay. So, it will take them 102 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,200 » a year. >> A year to go through it all? 103 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,120 » I don't know. >> Well, that's not set in stone, is it? 104 00:07:10,919 --> 00:07:16,200 Like you guys could, if you have time, go through more, right? 105 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:22,800 » Yeah. I would hope so. >> I mean, can you talk to the board or um 106 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Joe or somebody and say, you know, like what's the timeline here? 107 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:31,680 And how And how are I guess what threw me is like how are how is it only two 108 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:35,440 pages and then how is it five pages? Like how are you parsing this out? Like 109 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:40,480 what's the logic? Like is it because 110 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:45,240 one subject was two pages and the The subject is five pages? like how are you 111 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,800 » Yeah, next subject is five >> how many pages? 112 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,160 » Five. >> Is that what it is? 113 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:56,080 » yeah. >> Okay, so then we can guess how many 114 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:59,960 sections are there. How many pages are going to parse the 115 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,120 rest of this out? We're doing math. 116 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:09,320 It's scary. Well, I I'm not you know 117 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,080 We'll do a moratorium, but you know, this thing the whole point of the 118 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,200 moratorium as you've all stated and you all know is to write an ordinance, 119 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,840 right? >> only thing 120 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,400 » So, we need to get that completed. >> That's the only thing you use a 121 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:24,720 moratorium for. >> That's what you use it for. This is for 122 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,400 that. Okay, that's on to 123 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,280 I'll talk to Peter again. >> I can respond to the cell tower. They 124 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:36,039 just got their soil erosion permit, so they're moving ahead. 125 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,520 » They are moving ahead. Did you hear that? 126 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,080 » Yeah, unfortunately I did, yeah. >> And Pete 127 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,599 » And I got to say that >> And we didn't we didn't know nothing 128 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,480 about >> It just It just came. 129 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:49,680 » Actually, cuz the hold up was they were waiting on 130 00:08:46,839 --> 00:08:51,560 the fire review, right? >> Colin? 131 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,440 » Did they pass the fire review? >> That That I don't know if they passed 132 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,760 that, but I know they finally got their soil erosion. 133 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,920 » The soil erosion is passed the site plan fire 134 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,440 » Let's get out of here. You guys want to hang out a little longer, let's go home. 135 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,680 » All in favor? >> I.