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Oh, yes, sir. It's good to see y'all.

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I tell you, I'm having to use these things more and more every

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week. Went to the eye doctor and he told me why. And he wants to do something to it too, so we'll

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take care of that too. But I have a few items of interest for y'all. And first of all, Mr.

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Slavin, we talked a little bit about Barry Lane. We'll be contacting all the property owners

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this week and getting some right of entries and having some very good conversations.

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We sent them a little letter saying we're going forward and appreciate yours and Mr. Fitzgerald's

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support on that and I think that I think it was the answer they were expecting and it

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looks good for next summer and we'll be working that way to finish that but we're happy

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about that.

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We did some, did the slope fixed at Faley Road there, and that turned out real nice.

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And so Dr. Seaton, we fixed that, well, Hickory Hill, we're going to go in there and take

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all that out, probably put a little rock line on there, so because it seems like every

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time it grows up, then we have the same problem, so we're going to try and address

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that. Hermitage Road we have got some low shoulders and we're going to go out

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there and try and that's going to be some of our fall work that we'll be trying

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to accomplish on this fall.

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Ms. Carter, 688 we've got all the pipes in we're

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going to be laying stone out there on that road finally and hopefully going

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to shoot that this fall but but but that's gonna be a common theory I'll

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talk to a bunch of y'all about our rural rustics we're trying to shoot

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a bunch of them in October. First of all, we're hoping for a warm October to accomplish that.

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Hankey Mountain, 250, they started that work out there. I don't know if you got any calls,

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but that's a good thing. I ran into the county administrator at one of our, for Highland

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County, and she was very happy about that work. She says, it's not in her county,

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but she's heard a lot of thanks for that so and I said well we're happy about

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that work and she said about everybody over here uses that road on a daily basis

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and so they were real pleased and we're happy a case been out there and I'm in

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and I'm think it's looking really really good so we're happy with that 262 we

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We fixed that one rough spot out there, and the one part in front of the SWOT fire department,

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we fixed that.

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We milled.

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There was a bad spot in the road that we fixed out there.

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I will look at the issue we talked about before the meeting also.

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So Mr. Wells, I always like to tell you all about the widening on 81.

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Boy, they're making hay out there.

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It's moving along.

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Still looking at getting those speed enforcement cameras out there.

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I keep on bringing that out to you.

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And they kept on saying it's going to be September.

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They said it was going to be August.

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And now we're in September.

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I says you all realize we are already in September.

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And so, it looks like it's November, December, it's going to be later this fall.

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State police are the ones that are going to be enforcing all that.

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And so, I just want to keep you all, as soon as I hear some solid data, I want to let

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you all know, because it takes pictures of everybody that goes through it.

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That net, it gets everybody.

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So, I know I've got a lot of employees that drive it every day, and you all have

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lot of people in your world that does too.

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Hey, it happens. It happens to everybody.

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And then we end up, they have a little extra when they went when they were for us and they

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go through there, Mr. Shaw, you're exactly right. But be careful. We had a little mill

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Fill and fill on 219 to 220 as you were to 221, that fixed, and that looks nice.

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Broderick were about done with that except for some minor items.

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And Mill Place, we're going to start on that project, notice proceeds of 29, so next week.

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You know, that's a great little project, putting that double left into there, and then we're

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going to fix that park and ride also with that project.

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So B&S is starting it.

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There's a lot of subs in there.

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So it's going to be one of those ones.

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It's going to be coming and going in there.

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And I'll keep you posted.

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But they do, they are expecting,

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they want to start this fall.

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And I really believe once the winter comes along,

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they're going to be doing a lot of work on that.

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Because I know B&S has got a commitment

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to several of the 81 contractors and so you know they'll be out of that asphalt

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work in the winter and probably trying to do a lot of that but I'll keep you

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posted on that project. Mr. Garber, we finished the Samuel Bears, well they

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finished the Samuel Bears, the old bridge, four-ton bridge out of there we

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got a at-grade crossing. They did a beautiful job. They did some landscaping going up in

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that fella. Now there's a marketable site on that side that I didn't know was very marketable

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at one time. So they've got good access right there and really fit in there nice. It's

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got a little less yard demo on the opposite side, but that grade crossing looks really

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good out there. So hats off to the short rail for their work out there. And a local contractor

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did that. I'm trying to crumb it. Crumb it did that. I thought they did a nice job giving

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them a little air time. 256, the railroad crossing. They started Friday, finished it

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Sunday morning early. So it was on time. Rise good and limited. I don't know if

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Ms. Garber, you heard anything out there on that, Ms. Slavin, but well,

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good, well, I'll take it.

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So, and swish your road, swish your road, we've got all the pipes in, we're laying stone out there.

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You know, I say that a lot, and so you all may wonder, when you put the stone,

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it's going to be the base for the road and we usually put eight inches out

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there and and what you do it is you put it in like four-inch lifts and then you

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roll it in and so that's when I say we're laying stone and we'll do that

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and then we'll come back with a surface treatment after that but we are

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doing that on on on Swisher and we hope to shoot that by mid-October.

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Again, surface treatment is very weather sensitive so hoping that we're

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going to have good weather to do that. But yes, sir, I see some smiles because folks

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have probably had an experience with that. But boy, we could get it, we'll get a good

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product out of that if we have nice weather.

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Ms. Bragg, we did our Wayne Avenue, we took

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those speed samples out there and it meets. So, you know, if we want to go to the

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next step with the flashing, with the variable speed.

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Yeah. So, so, you know, we try to look

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for 8 to 10 over, you know, is usually a good application for those. So, if you all are

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interested in doing that, and those sounds are very, are, are helpful. I mean, I think,

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I think it's a, it's really a, what kind of people you have? Because, you know,

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And I know when I go through it, occasionally you do get a little heavier foot.

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When you see it, you say, oh my, I'm going to slow down.

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And that's what happened.

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And you know, the sheriff can't be everywhere.

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And so many times it's what it is.

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So whatever you want to do there, we'll move forward.

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Norfolk Southern, they've got several crossings in your patent farms in Linnhurst that

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they want to rework again so they've contacted us and for some permits and

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maybe this fall so as soon as this fall so we'll keep you posted as that comes

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in please and and we'll keep you all in the loop on on on that mr. y'all there

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is a couple in your area too Lofton peek in and

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And poor, poor Creek Lane and Avis all, they're looking at, oh yeah, they done cut all of them.

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They got them all marked. Okay, they got them all. So, yes, sir. So, you know, and, and, and,

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and they're pretty logical. Usually you see them coming and they're coming down the line.

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They come, um, literally on their lines and do them. So, um, um, very good. Uh, a couple

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other things were on Pilsen Road. Uh, Miss Shaw, we, we are laying stone out there

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and that might be the first one that we get shot because it'll be ready next week or week

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after to shoot that road. And there's several shoulder repairs that are complete on 608.

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And then we've got some other scratching that we're going to do a little bit later.

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But, and I also put a note in there because y'all called me out last time about fixing

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that entrance and I was, I didn't have a lot to say.

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We had talked about it previously, didn't realize it was in a minute when we were discussing

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it before and we had talked about it before we walked in and so.

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But, you know, we want to be ready in there to get an estimate now, and if we get to that

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point where it has to get done, we know how much it'll cost and how we'll go after that

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if we have to.

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But it really is the business's responsibility.

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I know that's what we had previously said, and I've seen a letter come from one of

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your cohorts in there that was sent out.

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You know, you know, Mr. Shaw, I'm really glad.

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A lot of times we write letters

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and we wonder if people really read them.

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Doug, I didn't say that, did I?

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I was just thinking that.

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But now I know you y'all do, and so.

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Well, when I get phone calls wanting something

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and wanting money, and so, you know, I look.

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Yes, sir.

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And that's why we call y'all,

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and then you, I don't remember the one's name now,

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but the letter was sent, so.

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Yeah, in full disclosure, we were bringing in our concrete guy and we looked at a bunch

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and a couple of us came up that, hey, look, there's some place we've gotten calls about

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before.

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So we said, well, why don't we get that while he's in here?

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And then we realized, oh, no.

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But all good.

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I wanted to, in case somebody looked at him, it is a saw that we're going to do it.

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I want to put it in there say that that was we misspoke but y'all have any

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questions of me yes ma'am I'm not sure if I'd mention this I think I did the

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timing of the light from Locust Grove on the 340 multiple people said that you get

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three cars through and then you're done so the people leaving Stone Valley mm-hmm

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And that's probably one of the greatest complaints I get up there is the light, but they get three cars and then it's over.

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All right. We will have our folks take a look at that and make sure there isn't anything malfunctioning.

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Okay, thank you.

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And I've got one or two.

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All right.

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On Pilsen Road, you're not doing that whole road, right?

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About half of it.

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We're grading the whole thing and just seeing where we finished out.

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That was almost two miles, and that was, you know, for, yeah, that, and we're capped at

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a dollar amount that we could spend without going out to contract, and so we're afraid

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we're gonna get close to that. We'll come back, we can come back and finish that.

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All right. And then on you were talking about 81,

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anything in the works on the 81

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northbound side from 262 to 64?

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Yeah, I think that piece is included in the

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next round of 81 projects. Well, I know it was supposed to be on the next

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So it's on the list and we had sent a letter,

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I actually sent a letter requesting that green winter change be added

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and they sent a response back as I expected saying that it wasn't on the main line

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so they wasn't going to add it but this project you're talking about is on that next list

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so they're looking at evaluating, I guess

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it's like anything else, they got more projects and they got money

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and so they're going to evaluate it but all indications are that it's there

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and hopefully it'll score well and it sure is nice going southbound with that other one there.

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If it if you get that north one to be it'll be it'll be a big help especially on Sundays and

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things when the traffic backs up. Absolutely. Yes sir.

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I think that might have been all right.

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Okay if not I'll call you and I'll be talking to you some more anyway.

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Yes sir.

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Down on Klein River Road, you've got it staked, sort of, whatever stage that stake is in.

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Yes sir.

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Are y'all going to do anything if there's terms in that road?

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You've got three very nasty terms in that road.

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Well beside laying to the inside a little bit, yeah, we always like to do that, but

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we will try to.

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Yes sir.

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And now the property owners we really got to look for their their assistance on that

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Understand what one of them might take care of the other one. I don't know

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We'll have to see it might involve fifth liquor or something

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But okay, but two of those turns don't involve any buildings or you know things that are really problematic

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The one the furthest one toward new hopes good bit of trees and stuff

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I don't know but some couple nasty turns in that road should be nice

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I could get eased out a little bit

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Yes sir we'll look at it and ask, we try to, and that's some of the liberties that we take

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on the rural rustics.

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We always contact the property owners and if there are any agreements we can try and address

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some of those.

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But if you have trouble with property owners on those terms, let me know.

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I will.

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Yes sir, we will.

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I got a.

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Doc?

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Yeah.

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So I think it was a month ago.

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So George Holm and Cattle Scales, the stop sign there was overgrown by vegetation.

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Did you get to it?

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Because I haven't been out there in the last few weeks or so.

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But just like last year, the vegetation, it's almost up over the stop sign or the

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turning sign.

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I don't know if that's your responsibility or the county's responsibility.

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Well, if it's getting the stop sign, we will take care of that.

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If we have it, we will.

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It might, it could be the street sign.

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Okay, well, we'll forget which one it is.

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Also, the beginning of this cycle, a few months ago,

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I mentioned something about Hermitage

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as States Road off Oak Grove, Church Road.

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That road had been, hasn't been worked on

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for, it looks like, a long time.

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Okay.

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I think you were going to, what's that?

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What did you say, Hermitage?

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hermitage estates off of Oak Grove Church Road. It's got grass growing in

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the middle of the street and kind of potholes and divots and all that kind

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of stuff all along it there. So I think you said you're gonna try to get it

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worked on next year because you'd already planned out this year. I just want

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to make sure we haven't forgotten to keep it on next year. We certainly will.

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Anyone

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else? You all good? All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you all.

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Good afternoon,

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Mr. Chair, members of the Board, to come for you today to give you our update for September.

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If our Rescue Agency dispatch were 691, we had 1,349 rescue dispatches for a total of

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2040, 61 EMS supervisor responses. Currently, we are down 10 funded positions in our department.

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We are working on a proposal currently with the county administration and looking at probably

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starting a recruit school soon as January 1st once we get through the hiring process.

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Our training division has completed 26 in-station training sessions.

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We assisted with the EMS release, testing for six new full-time EMS providers.

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They conducted a CPR class for Craigville Volunteer Fire Department, had 17 students

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involved, attended a planning session at the Valley Career and Technical Center

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for the future firefighter one and two program that meeting went very well as

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we met with them so it it seems like that we may have a opportunity to move

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forward with that program brief mr. Fitzgerald on and he might be speaking

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with some of y'all regarding that here in the near future attended the session

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for the active shooter hostile situation training conducted alert training with

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the new school employees assisted with interviews for an onboarding with

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the new hires conducted our monthly FTO meetings and conducted monthly volunteer

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officer training. So they've been fairly busy over the last couple weeks. Now my

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report is very short this month so I'll open it up to any questions anyone may

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have.

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How many were we down last month? I think we were down seven I believe. I'd

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have to go back and look. And did we only lose three or we lost more and we

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hired more. What do you mean? No we lost, we did end up hiring, we were down 11,

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we hired one last week that was fully trained, we had one person come in

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fully trained from Crozet, so we were able to hire that person which took us

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down to 10. So we have not hired any more since then except for that one

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person which dropped us from 11 to 10. And the reasons for leaving? We've had

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a couple that either couldn't meet job performance requirements, we had a

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a couple go to Wainsborough, City Harrisonburg,

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and some got out of the system all together.

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Did that include the one that quit last week?

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That individual that went to Fluvana County,

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I forgot about Fluvana County, so yes,

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we did have one go to Fluvana last week.

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All right.

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The 12-hour stations,

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are we good on all the 12-hour stations now?

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As of right now what we're doing

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as we're still sending them in at 6 a.m. until we work through a process we met

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with the the chiefs of those agencies and they're trying to work out a process of

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they've agreed to maybe looking at a 7 a.m. start time so we're pulling our

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group and looking at that currently so we're still working with them but in

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the meantime while we're working the 24-hour shift we're bringing the

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daylight people in still at 6 a.m. so they're working 6 a.m. to 6 a.m. the

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you know if we were good with these companies and things

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and we were told, you know that we were good with them.

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Yes, sir.

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Everything was good to go.

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Yes, sir.

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And then the last meeting, Mr. Fitzgerald told us

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that we had to have more meetings.

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Yes, sir.

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So I was wondering why we were told

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that everything's good to go and then it's not.

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Well, you were advised that

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because I was advised that everybody was good to go.

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and so that when I reported that out that's what was told in any 11th hour it

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was brought back that after they went back and talked to their membership they

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had concerns so we did not find that out until the week that we were going to

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implement it so we met on that Friday try to work with them and come up with

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a solution so when I told you that we were good to go I was told we were

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good to go and so each agency and I ask them that question initially said

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that when they first explained to their you know when we first asked them the

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question they didn't see an issue with it but after they talked some of their

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membership went back to their members then they had a problem but they didn't

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advise us that as soon as they knew about it which kind of got you know

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everything mixed up is a very big breakdown of communication I believe on

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both sides so we're working through that process as we go so you weren't

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misled you were led with what information I was given and that's the

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information I gave is what I was thought was factual from the reports I was given.

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And I was informed over the weekend was that one of our agencies that sent Mr.

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Garber and Mr. Slaven an email concerning this you

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know I think this

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concerns the whole county so I think we all should have been informed about

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the situation and I know personally that there was another agency that wasn't

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happy with this either now I don't know that there was any emails exchange so I

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think this has been an ongoing thing so when it concerns our citizens in the way

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things have been done here I think that Board of Supervisors should be

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knowing what is going on, you know,

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it concerns our citizens and things.

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Mike, let me straighten that out a second.

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I got a phone call from Mr. Wampler.

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They had already made arrangements to meet with the chief

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and voice their concerns.

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He simply, the chief at Wears Cave invited me

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or me or Mr. Garber if I wanted to come over and set in.

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The meeting between them had already been set up.

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Didn't have anything to do with us.

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as they croak.

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The courtesy to him, I went and said in. Gerald didn't. But the invitation to come and

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sit on their behalf came to me from the fire chief at Weir's Cave. Didn't have

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anything to do with this. So I went on, I went on his behalf, not the county's

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behalf. Because he asked me to. Well, I was informed over the weekend that it

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wasn't Weir's Cave. It was a different agency. Was it in my district? Yeah. Well,

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then why didn't you tell me about it?

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I didn't know nothing about it till the weekend.

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Well, please.

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And if y'all were sending emails,

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y'all knew about it before I was.

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That's the only meeting that I had.

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There was a concerned voice to me,

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but that meeting had already took place.

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But the meeting with the Fire Chief at Wears Cave,

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that invite came from the Fire Chief

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himself of Wears Cave, not through the county.

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Well, this this came from reliable sources. Who was it? I'm not saying because well

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we do an awful lot of that up here. If it's in my district and there's a concern

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that I want to know who it is.

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If it's worth bringing up here in front of

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everybody and it's in my district I want to know who it is. Well, we're not gonna

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get up here and talk about he said she said but if we there's well that

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You're not going to get the information out of people if you start running names and things

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because I've got information right now back from some of the career side that has spoke

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out and they have had harsh words back to them.

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Well, that's fine.

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It didn't come from me because I've got good relationships with the people I have down

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there and if somebody is doing that, there's a difference between good information and

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gossip.

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Well.

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And good information we get from that podium when people invest their time and efforts and come up here and

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Try to work things out with people

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There's a lot of other stuff. It's gossip

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And if it's coming out of my district and somebody's talking about they didn't talk to me

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I want to know it

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Because I've got good working relationships with them

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Long-standing relationships with them and I don't want to be used as gossip

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It ain't gossip. It's a way. It's a way to operate and then you give me a name

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Yeah, we can talk if you're if you're talking about it up here on my behalf and

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it's in my area and I don't know nothing about it I want a name well it's

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county's behalf it ain't just one district it affects it affects the whole

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county it's my district and I want to know who it is it affects everybody well

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then then get everybody the name yeah I'd

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like to also state that you say

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that you talked to multiple career personnel and they said they've gotten

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and by class because they spoke out.

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I hate to tell you that's false.

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So I don't know what information we're getting there,

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but I can tell you that I've never lashed out at anybody

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for giving any information or complaining about anything

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within our organization.

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So you might want to check that source.

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Okay, I appreciate it.

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Well, I understand that and that comes with the title,

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but I do have folks that will stand up and speak

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and I have had that and I've opened my door for that

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and nobody has ever ever been ridiculed for doing so so if they're telling you

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that that's false.

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I have a question. The email that you got Mr. Garber did that

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come from where's cave? Yes. Nobody else. Thanks.

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Well no one more thing. If we bring

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forth issues or things that we have heard or they've been told to us I see

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no value in any of the any board member getting mad or accusatory or judgmental

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about it I mean we're all here trying to serve the county so and work together so

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I know I just doesn't sit well with me when you when we do that that's all well

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if y'all hear things from people and you have a question please call me and I'll

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to answer them at any time. You know my phone's on 24 hours a day seven days a

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week so if there's a concern or question feel free to call me and I'll be glad

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and I will not tell you a story. I'll tell you the truth no matter what. All

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right thank you. You all have a good day.

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Will again.

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Yeah

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so the board had

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requested an update from all porings broadband relative to the VATI 2022

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project and Tom Ennis is here to provide that update and there will be

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slides.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Thank you for an

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opportunity to provide an update on our broadband project. We've got a long way

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to go, but we've made a lot of progress in the last couple of months. You should

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have been seeing construction in virtually every district, whether that's

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Dominion or All Points Broadband. I've got a couple of high-level bullet

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points to touch on at the beginning, got some maps, but happy to answer

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questions at any time. And then at the end, I have a couple talking points

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about the B program, which is an ever-evolving next step of your broadband funding in Augusta,

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Virginia, and the country, and I believe Ms. Wetzel has provided updates as those are

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coming in as well.

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So we rescoped our project in November of 2024 to reduce the number of poles we were

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going to attach to.

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We went from something like 16,000 to 1,600 in Augusta and asked for an extension to

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June of 2026.

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We're on track to hit that right now.

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Touching on Dominion real quick, on their construction, I usually get a report at the

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end of the month, so maybe next week before our next staff check-in, I'll have a new

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number.

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But as of August 27th, they had done 145 of the 170 miles.

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Most of the remaining miles are crossing 81 or 64 before our meeting on the 8th will have

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a new update for you on that.

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All points has built a little under 100 miles of the last mile fiber.

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That's in areas 1, 2, and 7.

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I got a map on the next slide for that.

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As of today, about 750 locations can sign up and get service.

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They still need to sign up.

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They pay for the install, they pay for their service plan, we go out and we do the installation.

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About 750 locations can do that.

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About twice as many of that locations are eligible to pre-order.

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And that is mostly in Fiber Service Area number two.

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By the end of the year, we expect that number to be at about 2,000 locations that can

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sign up for service.

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We have one primary cabinet in every Fiber Service Area, so for numbers one and two,

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Those are complete.

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They're lit.

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They're active.

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Number seven is under construction.

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The other three are about to be released to construction.

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One of the Fiber Service areas, number five, I got subsumed into four.

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That's why there's one missing in your map.

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In terms of the VDOT land use permit applications, the applications themselves are being processed

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fairly quickly.

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We got through an issue where the underground vaults were required to have a concrete

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collar placed around them. We worked with VDOT to come up with a an above-ground pedestal

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that still met their requirements and didn't blow up the budget or the construction timeline.

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So that was to appreciate that collaboration with the Harrisonburg Residency. We are limited

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though in the number of work zones and total crews we can have in the county and they

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recently gave us permission to bring in a second vendor but over the summer we

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strongly encouraged our vendor to bring more crews to Augusta County. They brought in about 30 crews

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and for reasons passing understanding, they put them all on like the same road,

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29 crews all in a row and put us kind of in the penalty box with VDOT in terms of work zones

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and available crews. So traffic control, top priority, we're meeting again with the Harrison

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As new vendors are brought in to increase our productivity,

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we want to make sure that they are following the rules,

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that they understand what we do in Virginia

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in terms of traffic control on mainline construction

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and on the customer drops.

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Two different types of work.

455
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:18,320
They also have a limit now that school has started

456
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,840
on the time of day, so we can work from 9.30 to 3.30

457
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,720
with an hour at each end for a setup.

458
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,420
So we're limited there,

459
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:30,740
and the working hours that we have per day, but always asking for more permission to do

460
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:35,260
more crews, work longer hours, and there's a bit of give-and-take there between us and

461
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:36,020
the VDOT residency.

462
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,900
So we've added a second construction vendor.

463
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,060
We're also sourcing a third-party inspection resources to help supplement VDOT for all

464
00:39:44,060 --> 00:39:44,860
of the land use permits.

465
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,520
They have to approve them.

466
00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:50,020
They have to send out inspectors to make sure that we can close them out correctly.

467
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,560
If that's an area where we can pay for those resources that may be limited at VDOT, we

468
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:55,980
will do that.

469
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,800
We're actively trying to bring those in as well.

470
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:04,740
In terms of customer installations, we have 81 that are currently work in progress.

471
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:11,320
So we've either surveyed the location from the home out to the main road, or that section

472
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,300
is being built, or they are scheduled for an indoor installation.

473
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:21,080
and right now we have 31 active customers. Their install is complete. It's about 40

474
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,220
in the backlog right now, in addition to the 31 and the 81. So working through

475
00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:31,320
that backlog as people sign up, we go out, we survey their home, we do that drop

476
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
work, and then we schedule a time to be inside with them. So making some

477
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,360
progress there.

478
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,720
Here's an overall Fiber Service Area map in different

479
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:47,460
sections of the county, this doesn't mean that every single location in the colored

480
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:52,880
polygon can sign up for service, but these are roughly the boundaries of each of the

481
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,380
active cabinets. So each one of these different colored polygons has a cabinet the size of

482
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:04,000
a mini fridge, and that provides enough internet signal to reach all the locations in each

483
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:13,420
polygon. The network is designed to scale up quickly within each area as we add new

484
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:18,580
neighborhoods or new construction or the B program finally gets finalized. But

485
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:23,320
this is the way that the county is split up here. We used to have an Augusta 5

486
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:30,240
that was incorporated into Augusta 4. So for the end of Q4 2025, Augusta 2 and

487
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,180
7 should be fully active. At the end of Q1 2026, Augusta 1 will be turned on and

488
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:42,440
and then 3, 4, and 6 will be on by the end of June next year.

489
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,420
Now, individual sections in each one of these may be turned on sooner,

490
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:49,760
but that's when we expect the last Fiber Distribution Area to be turned on.

491
00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:58,760
Zooming in on Augusta II, each Fiber Service Area is split into Fiber Distribution Areas.

492
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:03,400
These are subsections of where each of the active cabinets serve.

493
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:09,480
So right now, if you live in the 2.3, 2.4, 2.7, 2.8,

494
00:42:09,620 --> 00:42:12,620
you can actively sign up for service and get installed.

495
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,460
That's where all of the customer action is right now.

496
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:21,940
In November, we are going to turn on 2.5 slash 6.

497
00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:23,380
Those were combined into one.

498
00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:25,440
And then 2.9, 2.10.

499
00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:30,740
And then in December, we're going to turn on 2.1 and 2.2.

500
00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:34,700
So, on a rolling basis, we're activating these subsections.

501
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,280
We notify customers who have pre-ordered that they can now get their drop installed.

502
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,940
We're also doing a lot of marketing for folks who have not yet signed up, and I got a slide

503
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:45,660
on that coming up.

504
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:51,580
Zooming into the next Fiverr service area that will be turned on in the end of the

505
00:42:51,580 --> 00:42:57,920
year, November, we're going to turn on 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, and then in December, 7.1,

506
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:58,560
and 7.2.

507
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,960
So, again, on a rolling basis, subsections of the network will be turned on.

508
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:10,480
This is the northeast portion of the county, if you want to go back here.

509
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,400
So this was the dark blue and the yellow for the rest of this year.

510
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:26,260
This is a dashboard tracking the mainline, last mile construction, so this is not

511
00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:32,760
middle mile. This is all points, mainline construction. The different FSAs are in the horizontal

512
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,180
bars on the left. If it's orange, that is ready to be released to construction. If it's

513
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:42,760
green, that means that that fiber has been built. So a lot of progress in Augusta II.

514
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,840
I'm going to send you an updated one. This is from the – or checking last time.

515
00:43:58,060 --> 00:44:04,880
So on the current dashboard – sorry, it's 97 miles total, not 77 here. I'll

516
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:12,980
in the screenshot later, but you can see progress in Augusta 2, Augusta 1, and Augusta 7, which

517
00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:19,280
is why we have a lot of currently active locations in Augusta 2 because their bar is green.

518
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,040
This is a couple weeks old.

519
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:29,320
I'll send one when I get back to my seat that has the 96, 97 miles in the green

520
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,860
bar chart.

521
00:44:29,860 --> 00:44:29,940
But

522
00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:40,020
we have a promotional offer going out to all of the Augusta locations, about 1,300

523
00:44:40,020 --> 00:44:44,320
locations that could sign up for pre-order that haven't, and we're running a promotion

524
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,500
in Augusta.

525
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Depending on the level of service you sign up, we're going to give a couple of months

526
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,460
of free service.

527
00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:54,460
We're going to reduce the installation cost, and we want people to take advantage of

528
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:54,960
this network.

529
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,980
We have about 350 who've pre-ordered.

530
00:45:00,430 --> 00:45:02,650
But we need another, you know,

531
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:08,610
step function in that to get more of the drops queued up before

532
00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:13,530
the end of the year. So when it runs some promotions starting in October, this letter will go out.

533
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:18,370
But if they went to the website right now, they can get all of the promotional offers.

534
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:34,230
So for Bede, the state broadband office was required to rerun the entire Bede bidding

535
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:36,050
process at the end of June.

536
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:45,030
After they had just done it in March, after a two-year process, they were instructed

537
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:51,050
to treat fiber broadband and satellite broadband as the same and then award bead funding to

538
00:45:51,050 --> 00:45:56,390
the lowest-cost provider, and they took out all of the local input, they took out the

539
00:45:56,390 --> 00:46:00,710
requirements for low-cost plans, they took out a whole number of other requirements

540
00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:07,210
that were in the program until June 4th, and they rolled this out nationwide in Virginia.

541
00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:15,410
The state ran the program very quickly, and then in the beginning of September, they made

542
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:18,330
their announcements to NTIA with what they had awarded.

543
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:25,510
In Augusta, you were primarily awarded fiber broadband providers – not necessarily to

544
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:30,390
points broadband, but Comcast, MGW, all points, others who had applied.

545
00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:35,870
So very fortunate that most of the funding went to a Fiber provider.

546
00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:41,330
In some counties where they didn't have as active an internet service provider environment,

547
00:46:41,530 --> 00:46:44,810
they were awarded substantially all to satellite service.

548
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:48,390
You can see that in some of your neighboring counties if you look at the state map.

549
00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:55,490
So overall, good process and results for the residents, regardless of how it

550
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:57,990
turned out for us in particular.

551
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:04,230
There is a back-and-forth between the state agency and the federal agency, and the federal

552
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:09,810
agency has until early December to finalize their rule and their approval of the state's

553
00:47:09,810 --> 00:47:10,090
plan.

554
00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:19,020
Just last week, they came out with a new request to rebid all of our locations in

555
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:19,960
a 24-hour period.

556
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,860
So we're monitoring this actively.

557
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:28,440
fingers across that there's no more re-bidding or re-doing of the network

558
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,980
designs but they have until early December to approve of Virginia's plan

559
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:38,240
and then in January is when we expect the actual deployment to begin. So with any

560
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:42,880
federal program ongoing right now it's up in the air until it's finalized but

561
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,100
that's where you stand for BID. So with that I would be happy to answer any

562
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:48,340
Any questions?

563
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:49,700
Yeah.

564
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:50,060
Hi.

565
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,580
65AidinCircle, this has been something that I've brought up just about every meeting here.

566
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:06,460
It says it's – this is on the BEED website that's satisfied by satellite only there.

567
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:14,700
So it's been – you know, the person's been complaining for – since before we accepted

568
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:21,480
your contract there and it's still not covered by any fiber and I'm just

569
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,680
wondering why is it not covered by any fiber. It gives four options for satellite

570
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,020
but it says it's unserved and it's still unserved and and it's supposed to be

571
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:36,400
served and I just don't I don't understand what the process is and why

572
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,080
it's not served still. I don't know that address off the top of my head but I

573
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,300
I will, 65 Aden?

574
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,300
Yeah, and I have looked on your website,

575
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,420
put it in, and it says it's not served by you either.

576
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,320
So I'm wondering, this is long before you,

577
00:48:54,490 --> 00:48:59,710
and long before we accepted the contract, 65 Aden Circle.

578
00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:04,730
I don't know who's supposed to be accepting that,

579
00:49:04,990 --> 00:49:08,150
but it's in Fishersville, A-D-I-N.

580
00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:14,090
So, I'm just wondering, how is this one getting dropped and how many other ones are getting

581
00:49:14,090 --> 00:49:14,370
dropped?

582
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:20,330
ADIN.

583
00:49:28,620 --> 00:49:37,860
I think that area is, so if you go to the state's new bead map, they are saying that that one

584
00:49:37,860 --> 00:49:39,100
will be built by Comcast,

585
00:49:42,850 --> 00:49:45,310
but I'll follow up with Jennifer and you on that one.

586
00:49:46,910 --> 00:49:52,790
Yeah, the new map that's out on the DHCD website, they call it Benefit of the Bar

587
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:57,790
again the winners which it sounds like just as of last week they may have went

588
00:49:57,790 --> 00:50:05,230
back and asked again for information so this could still change. It does show down

589
00:50:05,230 --> 00:50:11,650
to an address level of who would have gotten the bead a preliminary award for

590
00:50:11,650 --> 00:50:16,870
that location and Comcast is in there a fair amount but you know fiber to the

591
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:21,230
home to me I would consider Comcast even though it might not be exactly

592
00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:28,690
fiber, just as good. I have it personally and I have really good speed. So you want a wire

593
00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:34,050
line. There's several hundred that are still addresses in Augusta County that were still

594
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:43,950
listed as satellite, whether it was Amazon or Starlink. So this is still changing, but

595
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:50,310
I can look up any addresses anybody has relative to the bead funding of who should

596
00:50:50,310 --> 00:50:55,550
be serving it and that's what I'm telling people when they call like this is who should your provider

597
00:50:55,550 --> 00:51:02,350
should be based on this award and please reach out to them directly for that so Comcast I guess in

598
00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:08,030
particular this particular address would be better than um it would still be wire line it would

599
00:51:08,030 --> 00:51:11,310
not be satellite so that that would be a plus and

600
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,700
I'll add that to our check thank

601
00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:22,650
you

602
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:26,370
Yes sir. Mr. Chair.

603
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,540
What is your normal cost for installation? So when we

604
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:40,780
started it was $199 and now it's $99 and if you sign up depending on your service

605
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:48,480
level it's either zero or half of. So right now it's it's $99 without a

606
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:57,080
promotion and there are I think about 1300 locations we're going to say if you

607
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,120
sign up for the end of October you either get a free installation or a half

608
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,820
off installation. Do you know when you dropped your installation costs? It was

609
00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:14,080
sometime over the summer. This this past summer? Yeah. All right how much

610
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,340
bead money did you get?

611
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:21,060
For this area? We haven't gotten any bead funding yet.

612
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:27,800
It's a provisional award. But you don't expect to get any? No we do but that

613
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,020
wouldn't apply to anyone who signed up over the summer. Right.

614
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:34,760
And then the

615
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:46,140
last thing and I have on numerous occasions asked from this is not

616
00:52:46,140 --> 00:52:52,920
street names or numbers. I can't read. I mean, maybe it's just me. I don't know. I don't

617
00:52:52,920 --> 00:53:01,040
think so. But when you show us these maps, I don't know what area one is or what area

618
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,940
two is or what area seven is. I can't read it. So what good is it to me?

619
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:15,220
I will get you a map. It would be helpful with Google satellite image in the back so

620
00:53:15,220 --> 00:53:16,200
you can see, okay.

621
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,640
When should I expect to get those?

622
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,120
I think our next check-in is on the eighth,

623
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,540
but I can get that to you by the end of this week,

624
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:33,520
if you want a satellite imagery in the background

625
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,460
as opposed to the open streets.

626
00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:37,160
Okay, thank you.

627
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:43,750
What would also be helpful if you saw the map

628
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:47,070
of the whole county and what areas is being covered

629
00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:54,980
because we still got all the southern end of it might be in the process but it's

630
00:53:54,980 --> 00:54:02,020
not being done and and maybe what's the projected date on what possible service

631
00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:08,240
could be hooked up. We're a lot of folks down there still asking you know and

632
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:14,400
I know BARC that kind of let the ball fall up there on a lot of that and I

633
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,440
I know it's all pending in the bead applications

634
00:54:17,770 --> 00:54:21,300
and all of that, but we still got those folks

635
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,220
that's asking and they deserve as much service

636
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:26,820
as anybody else in the county.

637
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:28,740
So when I do that map change,

638
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,640
I'll put a month of expected service

639
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:39,160
or quarter if it's next April or May,

640
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,340
but I can do that on the same map.

641
00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:46,720
Are you applying for those areas that BARC didn't cover and what not?

642
00:54:47,540 --> 00:54:55,480
We, I believe we applied for one area down there in the kind of the southwestern portion.

643
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:05,640
But I forget off the top of my head who exactly was awarded and where Barc defaulted.

644
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:13,040
But I do know overall that the majority of locations across the county went to some wireline

645
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,500
provider.

646
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:21,970
But I can check on that on the state's map in that area kind of the southwestern portion

647
00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:22,610
and I can.

648
00:55:22,990 --> 00:55:27,350
Well we kind of need the whole southern end of the county all the way across towards

649
00:55:28,090 --> 00:55:30,690
the Blue Ridge Mountains and things there.

650
00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:36,750
It appears from the original bead map rollout.

651
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:46,070
I had done screenshots of each provider that had selected Augusta County or was provisionally

652
00:55:46,070 --> 00:55:47,410
awarded for Augusta County.

653
00:55:48,050 --> 00:55:54,530
So from the southern portion of the county that you're alluding to, it looks like it

654
00:55:54,530 --> 00:56:03,310
It would be all points, a little bit of satellite from Amazon, a little bit of Zytel, which is

655
00:56:03,310 --> 00:56:08,370
a fiber-based company, a little bit of Comcast, and then also MGW.

656
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:12,310
So it looks like there's multiple providers that have been in that area.

657
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:13,390
They're not overlapping.

658
00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:20,350
Those awards aren't overlapping, but based on the visual of the map, those were the

659
00:56:20,350 --> 00:56:22,150
ones that are in the southern part of the county.

660
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:25,770
I think most of that area was awarded to MGW.

661
00:56:26,850 --> 00:56:28,270
The Bark area might have been.

662
00:56:28,450 --> 00:56:31,190
Do you have a map of those different companies

663
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:33,010
in the area that they're?

664
00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:35,790
It's just a screenshot of the entire county

665
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:38,250
that kind of gives you a visual, which you know

666
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:40,770
your district really well as far as like, you know,

667
00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:44,170
if it's 252 versus, you know, Route 11.

668
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:48,590
So I can, I send them an email a few weeks ago,

669
00:56:48,610 --> 00:56:51,050
but I can resend them and make sure they're still

670
00:56:51,050 --> 00:56:53,890
accurate with what's currently on the DHCD website.

671
00:56:54,130 --> 00:56:58,010
Well, and I'm sure it's kind of like what Pam said about reading the maps and things

672
00:56:58,010 --> 00:57:04,750
that you're going to have some people that can't really tell off of those maps and, yeah.

673
00:57:05,070 --> 00:57:05,190
Yeah.

674
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:09,090
I'm going by like 252, Route 11, and you're doing that type of thing to read them.

675
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:13,970
So, I mean, as a visual of the county, you kind of get a feel for where the service

676
00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:14,430
would be.

677
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:15,250
Well, I got-

678
00:57:15,250 --> 00:57:18,630
But if you want to look, if you have addresses you want me to look up, I can do that

679
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:21,290
on the site and get to that person's house.

680
00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:24,410
Well, had multiple people like on Old Rainbow Road

681
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:29,370
and then we've got people that's in the Visubius area

682
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:31,310
and then we've got people over in,

683
00:57:31,390 --> 00:57:35,070
I think the southwestern quarter there

684
00:57:35,070 --> 00:57:37,850
that you're talking about and, you know,

685
00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:45,010
how far Mark was over there on the eastern side

686
00:57:45,010 --> 00:57:51,910
of route 252 Oaks, I don't know exactly, maybe a mile maybe, but then we got folks

687
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:57,490
that's from there back towards the interstate, towards the Rayfien area and

688
00:57:57,490 --> 00:58:02,850
things, so I don't know if you're covering any of that in there or not so.

689
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:10,250
So Rayfien would be an area of interest? Well, I can look at a couple streets here

690
00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:15,910
in there and have to figure out who's where. Probably anybody that's from the

691
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:26,230
rafing back to well that whole quarter in there you've got Spotswood Road goes

692
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:33,750
through there you got Stover School Road goes through there and then kind of

693
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:37,830
back down to where you're getting back into the Verizon and anywhere that

694
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:41,850
They've got Comcast and things in there.

695
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:44,450
Of course, most everybody that can get the TV

696
00:58:44,450 --> 00:58:49,270
can probably get the internet off of Comcast and things.

697
00:58:49,890 --> 00:58:54,610
But anybody outside of Comcast TV areas

698
00:58:54,610 --> 00:58:56,210
not going to be able to get it.

699
00:58:56,370 --> 00:58:57,270
So you've got those.

700
00:58:59,030 --> 00:59:01,010
I see a lot of blank spots in there.

701
00:59:03,230 --> 00:59:03,510
Yeah.

702
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:05,890
Well, I can look up some of those road you named

703
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:13,250
to kind of give you a visual that shows this area would cover between 252 and

704
00:59:13,250 --> 00:59:18,250
Route 11 or this area. So I can kind of give you that a little bit. Well and like

705
00:59:18,250 --> 00:59:23,750
in Basuvius you got the south bottom road that comes back up 608 back up

706
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:26,750
through there and Dabney Road back.

707
00:59:29,470 --> 00:59:32,730
Well Lofton Road on the eastern side of the

708
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:38,070
road track is covered, but then Lofton Road on the western side of the tracks is not covered, so.

709
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:45,790
Okay. All right, that is helpful to give me some clarity on the areas you're looking at.

710
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:51,820
All right. Is this information available to the average citizen?

711
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:59,860
It is. I mean, we're having trouble. I can't imagine. Yes, ma'am. It's

712
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,360
It's available on the State Broadband Office website, some of the colors they have put in

713
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:15,880
there for different providers, makes it hard to see them. And I don't think they have street

714
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:24,480
names on the streets, but you can search by individual address, you can see which provider

715
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,220
has been provisionally awarded for BID.

716
01:00:27,740 --> 01:00:32,440
But if you're taking a whole look and trying to see, you know, who has been awarded to

717
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,220
my Magisterial District, that may be a little bit harder.

718
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:39,740
But you can search each individual address and it will zoom to that address, it will

719
01:00:39,740 --> 01:00:41,380
tell you who was provisionally awarded.

720
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,560
And it is publicly available, it's on the State Broadband's website.

721
01:00:47,420 --> 01:00:48,660
You just can't read it.

722
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,040
It's – I mean, I'm looking at it right now at, you know, the dots for Comcast

723
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:59,160
Augusta Green and the map screen. Yeah and what I had sent to the board when

724
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,920
Mr. Scholl brought it up about a month ago is I went in and I did a screenshot of

725
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,300
all of Augusta County so everybody kind of has an idea of where their district

726
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:12,800
lines are where 81 is where 11 is where 250 is all that and so you like I

727
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:19,160
glance at it and say it appears the orange dots for MGW are the bark

728
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,760
area of the county and maybe a little bit of Bradley pond, but that's just me

729
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,080
working with the county as a whole over time at a glance I can kind of say where

730
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:32,140
things are. So if you want I could probably go district by district and

731
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:37,940
blow it up and do screenshots a little bit more that may help you, but to Mr.

732
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:42,320
Ennis's point not everything's labeled so if I have an exact address if I

733
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,000
put that in there I can tell you exactly who is provisionally awarded

734
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:53,260
for Bede. And if for some reason it's not on Bede, then I can go to the All Points project

735
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:57,460
to see if they're in that, or if they're having to come, then I can also see that.

736
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:17,840
One of the other things before Mr. Ennis leaves to point out is we've been hearing for, you

737
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,120
you know, a decade that individuals need high-speed internet.

738
01:02:23,260 --> 01:02:28,280
So the Badi project included 1,173 passings for,

739
01:02:28,580 --> 01:02:31,580
and this is the one that was the MGW project from 2021.

740
01:02:32,260 --> 01:02:34,320
They're currently at a 42% take rate.

741
01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:36,560
So even though you're here, we need internet

742
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,820
and we need internet, only 40% of the people

743
01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:40,880
have actually signed up for a service

744
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,840
that's existed now for over a year.

745
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:50,200
So one of the talking points just, you know, in the community of people are asking for it,

746
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:56,200
most of them will sign up if we're hearing from them on a, you know, a regular basis.

747
01:02:56,740 --> 01:03:03,860
But if you have individuals that are hesitant to sign up, you know, long-term,

748
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,140
it's probably better for them to sign up sooner rather than later if they're going,

749
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:11,240
if they have somebody in their family that can use it because the offers now

750
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,880
are going to be better than, you know, the offers once it exists for a while. And we've

751
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:21,600
all experienced that with, you know, incumbent providers that have built a service and then

752
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,560
when you want to connect you have to pay a fee to do that whether it's Comcast or whoever.

753
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:36,020
So now that BEAT is out there for funding and has rules relative to service requirements

754
01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:42,020
And then also these VATI awards, it's a good time for people to look hard at do they want

755
01:03:42,020 --> 01:03:47,540
to sign up now if somebody in their family can use it and also help with the resellability

756
01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:48,300
of their house.

757
01:03:49,460 --> 01:03:57,700
One thing to touch on that, Jennifer, so we do offer a $99 installation fee for those

758
01:03:57,700 --> 01:03:59,400
who want us to sign up that are in the program.

759
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:06,620
If they sign up two years from now, that fee may be higher because the program has ended

760
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:09,940
and we're not able to offset their long-drop fee.

761
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,660
Our grant contract says that we can do that for 12 months.

762
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:20,540
Even though we do have several fiber service areas where, you know, technically that

763
01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:24,640
clock has started, we have not started that 12-month clock, we want people to take

764
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,020
advantage of the program, the county has invested a lot, the state has invested a

765
01:04:28,020 --> 01:04:28,960
lot, we've invested a lot.

766
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,920
We want people to sign up, you know, there may be some neighborhoods where we get there

767
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,460
and there's not a VDOT right away, and it's a private road, and we may need help with

768
01:04:37,460 --> 01:04:40,740
an HOA or a community leader to get some notarized easements.

769
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:47,540
They're also not going to be on that strict 12-month shot clock, so we will work with

770
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:51,360
neighborhoods, work with the community to get people to sign up before the benefits

771
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,260
of the program expire.

772
01:04:53,380 --> 01:05:02,000
We're doing a promotion this month, and it's going to end October 31st, but there's a whole

773
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,900
portion of the county that can't sign up, and they're going to get a promotion too when

774
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:05,500
the time comes.

775
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:15,000
So Jennifer, is that something that we can post as areas open up on the website, Facebook,

776
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,280
Facebook, something like that?

777
01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:20,300
These areas are now open, sign up.

778
01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:21,580
Is that something we can do?

779
01:05:21,580 --> 01:05:25,780
said that they know that their area potentially is covered?

780
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,640
We haven't really done that in the past.

781
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:36,000
We would have to have a very clear communication of what is available and what promotion is

782
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,400
out there.

783
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,600
If you do have any like, I don't know if you have any social media promotions, we could

784
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,680
probably just share those.

785
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:43,720
That would be the easiest thing to do.

786
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:48,300
That way we're sharing like information and there's no confusion.

787
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:48,500
Right.

788
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,080
I understand.

789
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,360
But I was thinking like, okay.

790
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,580
some areas in the northern part may be open now and available where in the

791
01:05:55,580 --> 01:06:00,940
southern part maybe they're not. So if we could just announce that there are

792
01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:04,540
areas now that are available that kind of thing and not necessarily to the

793
01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:09,940
dollars but you know it's now available just a suggestion. I'll share some

794
01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:19,060
options in our staff check-in and you can say yes or no. And to what

795
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:27,320
Carolyn said maybe on our website we can post the links to hook up so that

796
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:33,660
individuals can click go on to that and see whether their addresses are on there

797
01:06:33,660 --> 01:06:39,680
and make it so they don't have to look and search and all of that if it's

798
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,380
readily available that they can you know we can say something about the

799
01:06:44,380 --> 01:06:50,680
the internet hookups and things for the citizens of the county and if you want to find out whether

800
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:58,700
your address is available you can search on here and make it a little easier for them to maybe try

801
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:06,220
to find it. Yeah I can go back there's there's just a lot of layers to this but I think we have

802
01:07:06,220 --> 01:07:09,660
all points information in the link there that you click on and you go to the website to put

803
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:15,020
your address in. I might be able to add like a B link to and pretty much just

804
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:20,160
preface it by saying you know this is the program that the federal government

805
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:25,140
has kind of rolled out and is still being worked through but if you go to

806
01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:28,580
this link then you can type in your address and figure out who would be

807
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:33,300
serving you. So more specific instructions on that might get people

808
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:34,280
to where they need to be.

809
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:39,340
My only my not comment about that is if you're

810
01:07:39,340 --> 01:07:40,420
going to do it for all points?

811
01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:42,900
Shouldn't you do it for all the providers?

812
01:07:43,620 --> 01:07:47,040
Well, this would be all the providers that put in for Bede.

813
01:07:47,660 --> 01:07:50,940
So it's going to be a map of anybody nationwide that

814
01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:53,780
has got a provisional award from Bede.

815
01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Yeah, so MGW's in there, Comcast, Zytel, Amazon, SpaceX.

816
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:04,890
It would be for everyone.

817
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:16,700
Jennifer, your comments about the 40% take rate or 47%?

818
01:08:18,140 --> 01:08:21,860
When we started down this road, there was a lot of enthusiasm about it.

819
01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:24,320
And I think, Gerald, you were there one morning.

820
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:28,080
There's a number of people in our neighborhood, handful, talking about this program.

821
01:08:29,220 --> 01:08:36,520
And part of the problem is, it's gotten drug out so long that now they've made other choices.

822
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:41,460
They've, you know, it's just been ongoing.

823
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,000
And they've just used other providers or they've found other sources.

824
01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:51,320
So now if it comes by, they're not sure whether the hookup or not, because when they thought

825
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,700
they were going to get it, they didn't.

826
01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:55,800
And they went out on their own, found some other options.

827
01:08:55,940 --> 01:09:00,860
And that's kind of a concern that I have that we've invested in this, and the longer it

828
01:09:00,860 --> 01:09:06,200
goes on, the more options the consumers are going to find other than this.

829
01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:10,720
And when you come by their house and say, hey, man, we waited a couple of years

830
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,180
on this, and we did something else we don't need you now.

831
01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:18,820
So the take rate might be pretty low because we spent too much time not

832
01:09:18,820 --> 01:09:25,920
getting the service to them. Yeah and I think in the original grant for the

833
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:32,060
VATI 2022 project the take rate was estimated to be extremely low, which

834
01:09:32,060 --> 01:09:37,500
is a good business presentation to have that your return on investment is

835
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:41,460
going to be realistic versus overestimating the take rate. But yeah

836
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:47,040
I do understand that people have gotten other things temporarily, so they're also probably

837
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,700
holding out to say, I made this investment and I have a one-year contract, and when that's

838
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:54,720
up, now they have the option of fiber, so they're going to have to make the decision

839
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,220
if they can get in on one of the promotional deals.

840
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:03,000
They can try to get it to the house before that expires, so yeah, yeah, it is.

841
01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:04,580
Yeah.

842
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,780
Anyone else?

843
01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:15,590
Good thing.

844
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:16,230
Thank you.

845
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:23,730
Rebecca.

846
01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:24,890
All right.

847
01:10:32,250 --> 01:10:36,490
Today we have Jay Langston, Executive Director of the Shenandoah Valley Partnership

848
01:10:36,490 --> 01:10:44,210
with us to discuss organizing a Shenandoah Valley-wide Regional Industrial Facility Authority,

849
01:10:44,670 --> 01:10:51,890
also known as ARIFA, and to discuss the county's interest in participating. I did

850
01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:57,630
want to note it is in the Draft Strategic Economic Development Plan to consider joining

851
01:10:57,630 --> 01:11:04,910
Arifa, as the county works through developing sites and the cost of that development increasing.

852
01:11:06,130 --> 01:11:07,010
Jay, welcome.

853
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:10,710
Thank you, Rebecca.

854
01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:12,730
Good afternoon.

855
01:11:17,130 --> 01:11:25,030
I have a few slides to go along with this because it's inextricably tied to a site,

856
01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:28,650
but we may not need those, and so I'll just hold that off.

857
01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:31,170
There's no need to go through it if necessary.

858
01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:39,170
I wanted to give you sort of an overview of what the Regional and Deseroyal Facility Authority,

859
01:11:39,450 --> 01:11:47,650
I'm going to call it REFA just for short through this, allows and what it can do.

860
01:11:49,010 --> 01:11:55,810
It is authorized under the Code of Virginia and 15.26400.

861
01:11:56,930 --> 01:12:00,390
It's very much similar to an EDA.

862
01:12:01,230 --> 01:12:08,950
What it allows in addition to an EDA though is multiple jurisdictions in revenue sharing

863
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:10,470
and cost sharing.

864
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:19,530
It is typically used for business parks, industrial parks.

865
01:12:19,530 --> 01:12:29,430
The idea, I cover 12 localities, not all are on the interstate, not all have the

866
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:37,070
opportunity for the good business parks or siting for good projects here.

867
01:12:38,290 --> 01:12:44,230
Also, the cost of development for business parks, you own one, you know how

868
01:12:44,230 --> 01:12:50,010
Mill Place has gone, it's been a very successful park, but it's expensive to

869
01:12:50,010 --> 01:13:00,350
put in the infrastructure. This is a way for multiple localities to participate. The advantages

870
01:13:00,350 --> 01:13:11,190
are it is shared resources and cost amongst the members. It helps expand the site inventory

871
01:13:11,190 --> 01:13:13,730
inventory and facility inventory.

872
01:13:14,490 --> 01:13:21,330
Rebecca and I just attended the Virginia Economic Developers Conference last week.

873
01:13:22,050 --> 01:13:28,790
VEDP, I'll try not to throw too many acronyms at you as Virginia Economic Development Partnership,

874
01:13:30,690 --> 01:13:38,850
has taken down through good project success and announcements in the last several months

875
01:13:38,850 --> 01:13:48,770
over 6,000 acres for business growth. We've only replaced that with about 1,500 acres.

876
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:56,870
So we're very good at, you know, in our success, but we're not keeping up with the business

877
01:13:56,870 --> 01:14:05,850
parks necessary to keep us in good stead going into the future. It also enhances

878
01:14:05,850 --> 01:14:12,410
This is our regional competitiveness because it will allow another park to be available

879
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:19,950
in our footprint here, and it's being encouraged for us by the Virginia Economic Development

880
01:14:19,950 --> 01:14:20,550
Partnership.

881
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:31,290
Also risk mitigation because the cost of this is shared over multiple different localities,

882
01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:39,010
And it increases bargaining power because you also have a larger facility and, you know,

883
01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:44,230
the return on investment is better for the investment that you put into it.

884
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,020
To create a RIFA,

885
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:57,480
it really is an agreement by the localities who want to participate

886
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,980
in the red.

887
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:10,000
There are some steps to go through that or administrative in order to do that, but that's a relatively

888
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:19,760
easy process to do. It's governed by a board, which is picked by the authority and the localities

889
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:30,440
there. It does have an annual cost associated with the RIFA because very similar to an EDA

890
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:34,760
You have to have an account and you have to have an audit on a yearly basis.

891
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:41,720
There are some administrative issues that go along with, you know, business part, the

892
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:47,840
creating of the authority and then the marketing and thereof.

893
01:15:49,500 --> 01:16:00,360
You have duly elected officers, need an executive director and that's it in a nutshell.

894
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,860
And it's actually pretty easy to set this up.

895
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,880
There are five or six rifas in Virginia operating currently.

896
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:22,280
We have looked and talked with a couple of our close peers that have similar land, similar

897
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,900
opportunities for their localities.

898
01:16:25,900 --> 01:16:32,480
the Western Virginia Rifa, which is in Roanoke, is the one that we have modeled

899
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:39,740
sort of this this template after since we have you know or have been looking at

900
01:16:39,740 --> 01:16:48,340
it. Also the Eastern Virginia Rifa that is in your county is another. Reason

901
01:16:48,340 --> 01:16:53,780
that I am bringing all of this up is we have been very fortunate to do a lot

902
01:16:53,780 --> 01:17:02,080
of work on the Blue Mountain site, which is in Weir's Cave, which is nearly 500 acres

903
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:11,480
of privately owned industrial zoned property that's next to the airport.

904
01:17:12,340 --> 01:17:19,020
And it has been a project that you have been working on and long before I got to the

905
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:24,900
Shenandoah Valley Partnership, but we have been fortunate in the last several years to

906
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:32,080
get three Go Virginia grants to do due diligence work and study the RIFA.

907
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:40,900
So we have put in about $500,000 into this particular site to get it to business ready

908
01:17:40,900 --> 01:17:41,420
standards.

909
01:17:41,420 --> 01:17:51,880
The third grant currently is finishing up and it will have all of the environmental wet

910
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:57,900
lens, everything that you need to make it business ready, done within probably the next couple

911
01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:59,460
of months or so.

912
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,500
That's the good news.

913
01:18:02,820 --> 01:18:10,420
The news that goes along though with continuing the development is it costs approximately

914
01:18:10,420 --> 01:18:16,900
$100,000 an acre to bring on a business park, an industrial park now.

915
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,980
Nearly 500 acres, you could do the math.

916
01:18:20,180 --> 01:18:27,900
We're talking about nearly $50 million in necessary to build this out.

917
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:34,520
Does not have to be done all at the same time, but it will require the development

918
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,500
of this.

919
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:46,380
and we have talked at a very high level of maybe moving this ahead by creating a RIFA,

920
01:18:47,380 --> 01:18:56,820
which Augusta County would be the host for, and inviting other localities to participate

921
01:18:56,820 --> 01:19:02,820
in that RIFA there. And I wanted to put that idea in front of you

922
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:10,680
get your feedback in questions related to that. I got the slides of the site if

923
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,660
you wanted to see it but most of you probably know this is the property that's

924
01:19:14,660 --> 01:19:23,040
west of the airport there on Airport Road and I'd be happy to answer any

925
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:28,860
questions. I did a very very high level I realize that but it's one of these

926
01:19:28,860 --> 01:19:35,780
topics that we could talk about for hours on end if if necessary that I get

927
01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:37,480
everything Rebecca thank

928
01:19:44,140 --> 01:19:50,620
you we as SVP already your regional economic

929
01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:56,620
development group we have volunteered to it does require administration for

930
01:19:56,620 --> 01:20:06,720
RIFA, just like an EDA does. We are offering to be the staff for the RIFA reporting to

931
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:15,440
that authority board, since we cover the region already. Have been marketing it with you on

932
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:25,280
the market, have been actually doing the administration of the GoVG grants to facilitate

933
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:31,000
getting to this point and the good news is is we are getting close to a point

934
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:37,100
where we may be able to get some Virginia Business Ready site program

935
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:45,980
dollars to help with the development of the site. I will also say that it is the

936
01:20:45,980 --> 01:20:51,440
most viable site that we have anywhere in our footprint.

937
01:20:55,830 --> 01:21:01,340
I'll be happy to answer questions.

938
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:10,620
It's a lot more complicated than that, obviously, but we are to the point now where we've talked

939
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:21,460
with amongst our economic developers and some of the other localities to judge interest

940
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:28,280
in participating in this if you so choose to host for this property.

941
01:21:30,670 --> 01:21:31,390
The other

942
01:21:31,390 --> 01:21:37,850
two rifas that you talked about, how many localities are in in those? The Roanoke

943
01:21:37,850 --> 01:21:43,210
Rifa has five. It is the city of Roanoke, Roanoke County,

944
01:21:43,210 --> 01:21:57,340
Bonnetot, Franklin and the town of Benton. Eastern Virginia has approximately 11 of the 15 localities

945
01:21:57,340 --> 01:22:06,420
in the Hampton Roads area that are participating. All of the localities on the peninsula are

946
01:22:06,420 --> 01:22:12,580
engage so Newport News, Williamsburg, James City County, York County,

947
01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:17,700
Pecoson, because they're in a position of city, they don't have any

948
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:24,140
developable property, and then several on the other side of the James River there.

949
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:30,860
And on those two rivers, how much resources does each locality have to put up to participate in it?

950
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,600
It differs by each one.

951
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,260
That's a good question.

952
01:22:35,580 --> 01:22:43,280
In the eastern Virginia, they have a split for the smaller localities putting in $5,000.

953
01:22:44,380 --> 01:22:48,960
The larger localities are putting $10,000 in for that.

954
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,240
In Roanoke, it's a little bit of a different situation.

955
01:22:53,840 --> 01:23:01,820
They do have a break between their cities, towns, and they went to the localities

956
01:23:01,820 --> 01:23:10,000
and ask what would you build willing to do? You want to be a major donor, partner or second

957
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:17,100
tier. So they have divided. Each one of those larger ones are putting in approximately $19,000

958
01:23:17,780 --> 01:23:25,520
for the administration and overseeing of the park. However, part of their higher donation

959
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:32,260
is because they are having to do work on their property at the very beginning to

960
01:23:32,260 --> 01:23:39,020
get it on the market. So they have already passed a bond issuance for that

961
01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:49,780
property. Similar for the first Rifa, which is near in Montgomery County near

962
01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:59,400
Pulaski and Christiansburg, theirs is lower on a yearly basis, but they have been at it

963
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:07,880
the longest of any. We're predicting at the start that our annual cost, they've gone up

964
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:15,380
since I've done this analysis six months ago, but we're looking at around $40,000. Probably

965
01:24:15,380 --> 01:24:22,500
Let's be, you know, conserving and go $45,000 for annual fees.

966
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:28,620
Part of that can be reduced because we can administer it because we already have been

967
01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:35,060
working on it and we'll offer our time, you know, to devote to this because it's good

968
01:24:35,060 --> 01:24:37,160
for us in that regard.

969
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,780
We know that the audit will require probably $10,000 out of that.

970
01:24:43,780 --> 01:24:51,540
The rest of that would be the maintenance website, marketing, you know, in addition to anything, a website.

971
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,380
It would probably need its own website, and that would take some work.

972
01:24:56,260 --> 01:25:05,340
The yearly fee after that may be a little less, but then that would depend upon the board authority,

973
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:11,640
Well, the authority board, I'm sorry, got that backwards, and what they would like to

974
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,560
do in terms of development standpoint.

975
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:25,860
We're in a position currently where I said, may be able to get another grant in the works

976
01:25:25,860 --> 01:25:33,260
that would not put any burden on any of the localities that wanted to join the RIFA

977
01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:36,760
at this point, so it might not go up,

978
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:41,020
but that might is very broad at this point.

979
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:43,480
How long has those two been in place?

980
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,840
Oh, the refas?

981
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:47,140
Yeah.

982
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:55,680
The Roanoke started in, I think it was 2014,

983
01:25:57,060 --> 01:26:01,120
but it's been approximately 10 years, eight years for them.

984
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:08,340
the eastern Virginia is newer. It has only been in effect for about five years.

985
01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:18,760
The first RIFA in Montgomery County is more than 20 years old. And has each

986
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:27,180
locality got a return on investment? The first RIFA has, yes. It took them a

987
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:29,320
a while before they did.

988
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,900
Each locality, like the cities and the counties,

989
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,280
and each individual one has got a return on it?

990
01:26:36,540 --> 01:26:38,920
Yes, yes, for the ones that have participated.

991
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,160
And you're asking a very good point,

992
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,700
because there are two levels in ERIFA.

993
01:26:46,460 --> 01:26:48,800
Participation, just being a part of that,

994
01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:51,580
which everybody has to pay an annual fee,

995
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,680
and it can be stepped or it can be the same across the board.

996
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:04,360
and for the development of the property those are two different things and so you

997
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:13,060
must have and by law you must be paying annual dues on a annual basis you then

998
01:27:13,060 --> 01:27:20,060
if you choose to participate in the development of like phase a and I could

999
01:27:20,060 --> 01:27:27,060
show you an example of that if you were interested, then those localities who are

1000
01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:34,460
part of the RIFA can choose to be part of the development and thus then they

1001
01:27:34,460 --> 01:27:39,820
would be the ones that would receive the benefits, you know, the shared

1002
01:27:39,820 --> 01:27:46,900
revenues for the companies that locate in that particular project or

1003
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:48,660
or development phase.

1004
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,480
The most successful RIFA honestly is the one that's in the

1005
01:27:55,480 --> 01:28:04,720
Danville area. Danville, Pennsylvania County, Halifax County to some degree,

1006
01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:10,320
Patrick County to a little degree had been very very successful with their

1007
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:16,900
RIFA. They have been working together over time. Cain Creek has

1008
01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:23,040
been extremely successful for them so that has been a good return for those

1009
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:32,180
localities. It's no guarantee but we have in the Blue Mountain site one of the

1010
01:28:32,180 --> 01:28:41,360
few large sites really along I-81 anywhere in I-81 and been very gracious

1011
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:50,600
with one owner who is won't the best for the county and has been holding on to

1012
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:59,780
that property with y'all's agreement for the right kind of development long-term.

1013
01:29:00,060 --> 01:29:06,420
So we are being encouraged not being forced by any means but encouraged by

1014
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:15,160
VDP to to move forward in the development of that. So for that site you're not

1015
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:19,440
necessarily thinking of like an industrial park because that would lose

1016
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:25,480
our whole 500 acres and we lose the size. You're still considering a big thing

1017
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:32,100
or it depends. I think that depends upon first of all your wishes because it

1018
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:35,320
It will follow your comprehensive plan in your zoning.

1019
01:29:36,180 --> 01:29:45,740
It will also then be up to the board, the authority, to decide whether they want a particular

1020
01:29:45,740 --> 01:29:46,700
project or not.

1021
01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:53,400
For those properties that you already have that make sense for, let's say, the Martin

1022
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:59,280
property or your mill place. If there's a project that is a good fit for that.

1023
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,800
There's no sense in going to a property that really is well suited for $100 million or $200

1024
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:17,240
million project. So we're not talking about a mega site per se or just one project. Personally,

1025
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:25,340
this is my opinion, I would love to see three or four really good projects on a property of this

1026
01:30:25,340 --> 01:30:44,480
It diminishes your risk, you know, with one sector, but it also provides opportunities to get a diverse portfolio in there and the potential for very good return on good jobs and revenue investment as well.

1027
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,220
Did I answer your question?

1028
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:54,480
And you had said the board is the one who decides whether it's the right project.

1029
01:30:54,660 --> 01:30:56,000
This board or the RIFA board?

1030
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:57,200
RIFA board.

1031
01:30:57,660 --> 01:31:00,760
So if it's a project, yeah, what if we don't like it?

1032
01:31:01,940 --> 01:31:11,720
I would, I can't guarantee, but I cannot imagine an authority board going against the wishes

1033
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:16,200
of the locality with the zoning in the comprehensive plan.

1034
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,200
That would be destructive, I think, for the RIFA,

1035
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:23,320
very much so.

1036
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,600
And there can always be the agreements,

1037
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,300
legal agreements made in documents,

1038
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,680
both that and in your zoning, you know,

1039
01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:38,200
to prohibit something that you don't want to go in there.

1040
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,000
And

1041
01:31:46,010 --> 01:31:49,590
when we were talking you had given us several different options.

1042
01:31:51,190 --> 01:31:54,150
Can you explain to them what those are?

1043
01:31:54,650 --> 01:31:55,130
I can.

1044
01:31:56,770 --> 01:32:02,970
Ms. Bragg is referring to, you have 500 acres.

1045
01:32:04,150 --> 01:32:12,590
Would you like to consider only a portion of the 500 acres as being part of the RIFA,

1046
01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:18,550
which could then, depending upon how everything's proceed, could go into that.

1047
01:32:19,050 --> 01:32:25,510
I will read you the options because I couldn't remember everything, so I'm going back to my notes.

1048
01:32:25,850 --> 01:32:32,870
It was to proceed with creating the RIFA in its entirety right now for all of the 500 acres,

1049
01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:38,310
knowing that we're not going to develop all of that at one time.

1050
01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:46,470
The other option is less end the discussion if you're not interested in it and that's

1051
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:48,150
the second alternative.

1052
01:32:50,130 --> 01:32:58,530
Right now, and we could continue down the road, is create the RIFA and how it would operate

1053
01:32:58,530 --> 01:33:00,710
really is on a first come, first serve basis.

1054
01:33:00,710 --> 01:33:08,330
Let's take down all of the property at first or in an agreement like an option agreement

1055
01:33:08,330 --> 01:33:16,110
or continue with your marketing agreement but a good legal document and let's see what

1056
01:33:16,110 --> 01:33:17,710
happens with that first phase.

1057
01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:22,670
We get a project in there that you like, that's successful, okay, we want to continue

1058
01:33:22,670 --> 01:33:28,410
on and that sets the tone for the project.

1059
01:33:28,410 --> 01:33:32,390
We can continue down this path like we are now.

1060
01:33:32,630 --> 01:33:33,990
It's on the market now.

1061
01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:40,990
And if I were to receive a really good lead that I think would fit in there,

1062
01:33:41,530 --> 01:33:43,390
this would be sort of that first option.

1063
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:49,010
I would come to Rebecca and go, we've got a project that trumps right now anything else

1064
01:33:49,010 --> 01:33:50,990
that we're doing with the property.

1065
01:33:51,150 --> 01:33:56,790
It's before the RIFA, and you would have that option to put that project in.

1066
01:33:56,790 --> 01:34:09,010
and then the last section is you could conceivably divide the property, have part

1067
01:34:09,010 --> 01:34:14,170
of it rifa and retain part of it for yourself just like you have no place

1068
01:34:14,170 --> 01:34:19,330
part of it could still be you know just for Augusta County so that's an

1069
01:34:19,330 --> 01:34:25,290
option. I do have some phasing plans that have been done by engineers

1070
01:34:25,290 --> 01:34:30,770
years visually, unless you want to see it, I won't bother with it, but that gives you

1071
01:34:30,770 --> 01:34:34,470
an idea of sort of the options that we have at this point.

1072
01:34:35,870 --> 01:34:41,590
The reason I'm coming before you now is we're at the point where we either need to start

1073
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:48,930
moving forward with the RIFA or sort of let the idea go, you know, for a while.

1074
01:34:48,930 --> 01:34:55,690
This was I know talked about in the past before I joined seven years ago, but we

1075
01:34:55,690 --> 01:35:00,510
have been very fortunate to get the property to a point now. It has water

1076
01:35:00,510 --> 01:35:06,430
and sewer. It has a good road connection there. Yes, more has got to be done, but

1077
01:35:06,430 --> 01:35:08,550
it is marketable property.

1078
01:35:17,580 --> 01:35:25,180
I could provide lots of additional information to

1079
01:35:25,180 --> 01:35:30,960
you, I can share with Rebecca to share. I could bury you in paper if you'd like, but

1080
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:41,060
I will refrain from doing that until you, you know, ask and you need. I did, I should say

1081
01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:48,080
we did have a feasibility study, that's this 100 page document, and it was positive for

1082
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:55,580
for the property, for both a RIFA but also for the targets that we seek, which are manufacturing

1083
01:35:55,580 --> 01:36:01,560
equipment, you know, north of Grumman type of projects, electronic components and so

1084
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:01,800
forth.

1085
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:03,640
It does not have natural gas.

1086
01:36:04,420 --> 01:36:06,380
I don't see it having natural gas.

1087
01:36:06,780 --> 01:36:13,940
Probably will not be a food and beverage site, but then that doesn't compete with

1088
01:36:13,940 --> 01:36:17,720
some of your other good sites for food and beverage as well.

1089
01:36:22,770 --> 01:36:24,370
I've given you a lot to think about,

1090
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:28,270
probably something new that you've not heard of.

1091
01:36:28,650 --> 01:36:32,030
So, but I'm happy to provide more.

1092
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,560
Rebecca, I'd be interested in hearing your feedback.

1093
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,000
If you don't want to do it now

1094
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,600
and you want to put your thoughts together

1095
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,860
that I understand I don't want to catch off guard.

1096
01:36:45,500 --> 01:36:47,540
I think on a very high level,

1097
01:36:47,540 --> 01:36:52,320
This would be a really good tool to add to our toolkit.

1098
01:36:53,420 --> 01:36:56,080
Site development costs are getting so high.

1099
01:36:56,440 --> 01:36:59,820
Our next item on the agenda is going to be to talk about the VBRSP grant.

1100
01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:04,980
We're looking for resources to help develop the properties that we have.

1101
01:37:06,180 --> 01:37:12,580
I think the board is going to have to talk more about what you want to see at that site

1102
01:37:12,580 --> 01:37:20,440
and what your priorities are on investing in sites and timing and what you're

1103
01:37:20,440 --> 01:37:25,000
looking to see there. And I think if we can have that broader discussion it's

1104
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:32,280
going to help narrow down on the four options that Jay just outlined. I think

1105
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,300
it's a good idea and I think if we could talk about it more and figure

1106
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:39,680
out where your priorities are on site development it would help us get to

1107
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:47,740
get to the answer. Is that helpful? What was that? It is for it is a tier 4 site.

1108
01:37:48,380 --> 01:37:55,400
Yeah, the 199 acres that we did the due diligence on at the very beginning I

1109
01:37:55,400 --> 01:38:03,380
should be in front of the mic I know. It is tier 4. The remaining property that is

1110
01:38:03,380 --> 01:38:14,080
under the due diligence. Now 287 acres will be tier four once we're done. So

1111
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:20,140
that's the good news and that will bring the entire site up. Not all of that can

1112
01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:25,280
be reached by infrastructure at this point though but we're not trying to

1113
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,560
sell it to one big user anyway.

1114
01:38:29,890 --> 01:38:32,450
I would also just add that with the Rifa you

1115
01:38:32,450 --> 01:38:38,830
can develop multiple sites under ARIFA. So the board can really discuss what's the

1116
01:38:38,830 --> 01:38:42,870
interest in joining ARIFA and what's the interest in putting Blue Mountain under

1117
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:49,410
that RIFA. There isn't another site right now that we could put under the

1118
01:38:49,410 --> 01:38:55,710
RIFA, but multiple localities I think are looking at their available acreage

1119
01:38:55,710 --> 01:39:00,250
and if they can put more sites on the market. So I think in the future

1120
01:39:00,250 --> 01:39:04,190
there could be more but I just wanted to make sure you all understood it's it's two different

1121
01:39:04,190 --> 01:39:09,970
discussions but they are very tied right now because Blue Mountain's the only option for the RIFA.

1122
01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:19,440
Only 199 acres that you've assessed right now what are the challenges and obstacles to get it

1123
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:20,540
to a pad ready site?

1124
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:33,760
It requires an engineering layout which is actually under the current

1125
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:39,320
contract that we have with the engineer that's doing the balance of that site

1126
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:46,680
and barring that really would be then getting that information and filing it

1127
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:56,030
with the county. So it's not far off and money and money for the grading.

1128
01:39:57,030 --> 01:40:07,010
Moroccan Ham County for example is finishing up a pad site in Innovation

1129
01:40:07,010 --> 01:40:11,870
Village and they are spending approximately four million dollars for

1130
01:40:11,870 --> 01:40:17,390
that. Now I would love to be able to take these plans and put this in front

1131
01:40:17,390 --> 01:40:23,770
of the state for the business ready site program and file an application for

1132
01:40:23,770 --> 01:40:30,210
that. It has been strongly encouraged that it would be very well received if it

1133
01:40:30,210 --> 01:40:37,150
were a RIFA project like that, but I think they would also honestly be very

1134
01:40:37,150 --> 01:40:41,310
interested in seeing something of this magnitude regardless of whether it's a

1135
01:40:41,310 --> 01:40:49,570
RIFA or not. On the 199 or whatever acres there, how big a pad site are you

1136
01:40:49,570 --> 01:40:57,670
looking at. For phase A, this is a topic of discussion and we haven't settled but

1137
01:40:57,670 --> 01:41:08,410
I would love to see a 20 acre pad as a start. For I think the property shows

1138
01:41:08,410 --> 01:41:14,330
extremely well. I don't think you're ever going to get the right size of a

1139
01:41:14,330 --> 01:41:21,690
pad for a project but 20 acres would certainly qualify for attracting the

1140
01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:28,310
size of projects that we would like to recruit and if they have to add to it

1141
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:34,950
well they're already halfway there you know it's the last upfront to capital

1142
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:44,010
but Rockingham got more money than they asked for in their last VBRSP because

1143
01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:50,670
the state wanted a larger pad. So they had to try to match that and they did, but the

1144
01:41:50,670 --> 01:41:56,770
state may go we'd like to see something bigger. Do you have a particular spot on

1145
01:41:56,770 --> 01:42:02,170
there picked up for the 20 acres right now? Yes. And what's the terrain like that

1146
01:42:02,170 --> 01:42:08,130
on it? What's the high elevation? It's about that's a good question. I think

1147
01:42:08,130 --> 01:42:16,050
is approximately 27 feet from the highest point to the lowest point may not be

1148
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:23,250
that much but it truly is the property across from the airport on airport road

1149
01:42:23,250 --> 01:42:30,850
and if you would like I can flip flip to it on the slides oh it's alright I'm

1150
01:42:30,850 --> 01:42:35,750
just kind of wanting it to rain because yes it's gently rolling particularly for

1151
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:42,390
area of what makes this property so attractive is this relatively flat. And it's known not

1152
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:53,350
to have any karst. It has very minimal wetlands. The phase A of it would be approximately half

1153
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:59,830
of that 100, well 200 acres, so you're looking at about 100 acres. And you could easily

1154
01:42:59,830 --> 01:43:07,650
They situate a couple of projects that are 200,000 or 300,000 square feet in size on just

1155
01:43:07,650 --> 01:43:09,070
that portion there.

1156
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:15,140
We have a layout.

1157
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:16,700
Rebecca has it now.

1158
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:17,260
She can share.

1159
01:43:32,940 --> 01:43:33,960
The dollars wouldn't fix.

1160
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:36,040
Yes, sir.

1161
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:37,960
That's right.

1162
01:43:39,340 --> 01:43:40,840
I see our friends over in the corner.

1163
01:43:41,180 --> 01:43:44,640
They have rough ideas in their mind what their portion of it would be.

1164
01:43:46,180 --> 01:43:50,860
The main thing about it is if you start down this road, there's a certain amount of stuff

1165
01:43:50,860 --> 01:43:51,880
that has to be done.

1166
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,800
There isn't any more tweaking to speak of with some of your stuff.

1167
01:43:56,740 --> 01:44:00,460
It's like you're all in, so that's what everybody needs to keep in mind.

1168
01:44:00,860 --> 01:44:02,480
We're not going to just fiddle with this.

1169
01:44:02,820 --> 01:44:04,100
You're either all in or you're not.

1170
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:05,720
That is correct.

1171
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:08,100
So that should be clear to everybody.

1172
01:44:08,620 --> 01:44:12,200
Can we pull out our the KV account down there for A2 vein?

1173
01:44:12,380 --> 01:44:14,740
good. It would last about five seconds.

1174
01:44:17,650 --> 01:44:19,190
Any other questions for now?

1175
01:44:22,450 --> 01:44:23,210
All right, very good.

1176
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:29,490
Thank you. Thank you very much. And I'd be happy to come back and talk as Rebecca needs.

1177
01:44:30,050 --> 01:44:32,790
Tim needs. Thank you. The

1178
01:44:44,150 --> 01:44:49,770
county received $500,000 for wet utility infrastructure work

1179
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:54,830
for Mill Place Commerce Park through the Virginia Business Ready Sites Program. Staff

1180
01:44:54,830 --> 01:44:59,210
and Augusta water have reviewed possibilities for that work and for the

1181
01:44:59,210 --> 01:44:59,970
match that will

1182
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,260
Will be required. It's a one-to-one match. Augusta Water is here today to discuss the suggested

1183
01:45:06,260 --> 01:45:13,340
projects, and we will need to talk through the match opportunities. We are still waiting on

1184
01:45:13,340 --> 01:45:18,260
a draft performance agreement from the state to review, and we would also need to draft

1185
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:23,280
our performance agreement with Augusta Water as we move forward, and I'll turn it over

1186
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,240
to Augusta Water now to talk through the projects.

1187
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,100
Can we

1188
01:45:37,220 --> 01:45:38,140
get the slides up?

1189
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:42,450
Keep

1190
01:45:42,450 --> 01:45:42,690
going.

1191
01:45:45,630 --> 01:45:50,670
Okay. Almost. There it is.

1192
01:45:54,940 --> 01:45:58,440
Well good afternoon members of the board. So as

1193
01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:05,300
Rebecca said they the county staff did approach us about the grant and if we

1194
01:46:05,300 --> 01:46:10,240
could come up with some projects that would qualify for the grant money and

1195
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:16,260
And we did, we came with a few, some of them we looked at, and I believe one of them was

1196
01:46:16,260 --> 01:46:21,780
determined that it really wasn't going to be something that would be attractive to the

1197
01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:27,960
state to do, so we took it out, and then we took, left us with three projects.

1198
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:32,460
We took the one, it was a construction project, which we have up on the screen.

1199
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:39,360
The other two were study projects that we combined into one, so we made one project

1200
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:45,220
project of it to make it, again, more appealing to the state that they would approve the funding

1201
01:46:45,220 --> 01:46:45,580
for that.

1202
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:51,400
So the first one that we want to talk about is the construction project.

1203
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:59,420
This one would actually, over at Mill Place, we have two different zones, pressure zones

1204
01:46:59,420 --> 01:46:59,880
over there.

1205
01:47:00,460 --> 01:47:06,180
We have a pressure zone that is coming from Berry Farm, which is at a higher pressure,

1206
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:09,280
and then we've got the mill place pressure zone.

1207
01:47:09,780 --> 01:47:11,640
Right now those two are not connected,

1208
01:47:12,110 --> 01:47:16,980
so we can't get berry farm water over to the mill place tank.

1209
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:23,440
So this project would construct about 580 feet of pipe

1210
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:27,740
between those two that would allow us to get water

1211
01:47:27,740 --> 01:47:30,520
from berry farm over into the mill place tank.

1212
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:36,160
So we see that as something that is very attractive to us.

1213
01:47:36,180 --> 01:47:42,900
us. In fact, we already had that in some of the out years in our capital budget. So we

1214
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:49,520
were already planning to do this. I think we had construction at 28. Yeah, 2028 was what

1215
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:54,200
we were projecting on doing that. So this was something that we already knew we wanted

1216
01:47:54,200 --> 01:48:00,940
to see happen. So that is the first project. And we did present these to our board

1217
01:48:00,940 --> 01:48:06,500
last Thursday and we presented it as the two projects the one being the

1218
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:13,820
construction project that one the board well let me back up the estimated cost

1219
01:48:13,820 --> 01:48:20,220
that we have for this for putting in this pipe work is about $600,000 so we're

1220
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:25,120
gonna be crossing route 11 we're gonna be crossing the railroad track and it's

1221
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:29,000
either gonna be 12 inch or 16 inch pipe so it's gonna be large diameter pipe

1222
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:36,600
that we're talking about. So we had estimated $600,000 for that because it was already in

1223
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:43,280
our budget. We had already planned to do this. Our board did approve for us to provide the

1224
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:50,640
$300,000 in matching funds. So if it's $600,000 total, get $300,000 from the state. I guess

1225
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:56,360
the water will provide the other $300,000 on that. So I'm hoping that that was going

1226
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:04,220
be an easy sell to the board. The other two projects that we put together into one, those

1227
01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:10,440
were first, one half of that is a study at the Middle River wastewater treatment plant

1228
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:16,120
to see how we could develop more capacity there and that one was estimated to be around

1229
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:22,520
$110,000 for that. The other half of that is another study that's going to look at

1230
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:27,760
the Mill Place Commerce Park and it's looking at improving the water and wastewater capacity

1231
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:34,720
inside the park. That one is also estimated at around $110,000. So $220 for the total.

1232
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:42,820
So the state will put up $110,000, then it will have to be a $110,000 match. Neither

1233
01:49:42,820 --> 01:49:49,040
one of, none of that is anything that's in any of our budgets. The board did consider

1234
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:55,780
that and what they voted on and approved is to offer to do half of the match so up

1235
01:49:55,780 --> 01:50:03,780
to 55,000 so 220 for the total study 110 of it's got to be match so Augusta

1236
01:50:03,780 --> 01:50:08,460
water is offering to do 50% of that match if the county would do the other

1237
01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:13,400
50% on that and part of that is we do Mr. Schulte may correct me if I'm

1238
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:18,640
wrong but I think the board's feeling was that the the work at the

1239
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,480
middle river waste to our treatment plant is probably something that benefits us

1240
01:50:21,480 --> 01:50:26,380
more and doing the work in the industrial park in the in the middle

1241
01:50:26,380 --> 01:50:30,320
place commerce park is something that's really for the county it's more of an

1242
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:35,340
economic development thing so I believe that that's the the feeling behind why

1243
01:50:35,340 --> 01:50:41,700
our board did what they did is to explain that to you so I think that's

1244
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:46,720
everything I don't know if anyone has any questions I do have people who

1245
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,080
actually know what they're talking about. William Monroe, our Director of

1246
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:55,880
Engineering, Rachel Cannon, our project engineer here. So if I can't answer it,

1247
01:50:55,940 --> 01:51:01,340
hopefully they can. Mr. Martin, I think our discussion was it's because

1248
01:51:01,340 --> 01:51:10,400
Stanton has the capacity, what was it, 60%? About 72%. 72% of the wastewater

1249
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:15,940
treatment plant there. So we only have the other portion of it. So you could

1250
01:51:15,940 --> 01:51:23,540
take several businesses in mill place and you can max that out pretty quick. So

1251
01:51:23,540 --> 01:51:29,120
that's kind of the concern of where do we come up with solutions to get more

1252
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:34,140
capacity at the wastewater treatment plant. So that was kind of the feelings

1253
01:51:34,140 --> 01:51:38,300
of the board and I think I spoke for the board there. Yes sir.

1254
01:51:40,990 --> 01:51:42,050
Sir Rebecca we

1255
01:51:42,050 --> 01:51:46,090
have the grant is for five hundred thousand right and then we would

1256
01:51:46,090 --> 01:51:54,110
match it so we have a million or 500 and there 500 is that correct yes so it's a

1257
01:51:54,110 --> 01:51:58,650
million total project dollars we could if you want if we wanted to provide up to

1258
01:51:58,650 --> 01:52:03,990
500,000 it would be a million dollars worth of projects so if the cost of this

1259
01:52:03,990 --> 01:52:11,930
is 600 and 7,820 right for both projects we have to come up with well

1260
01:52:11,930 --> 01:52:20,770
they're going to do 300 plus 55 and 55 and we would we could the county could

1261
01:52:20,770 --> 01:52:26,790
provide the 55 and the state would provide the 110 to the 255s right but

1262
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:29,070
you wouldn't you're not getting the full million you're not getting the full

1263
01:52:29,070 --> 01:52:35,070
right I understand that okay but I'm saying for our portion of it you could

1264
01:52:35,070 --> 01:52:39,850
do both projects and the county portion would be 110 is that right County

1265
01:52:39,850 --> 01:52:44,770
portion is 55. 55 because their board is willing to put 55 into those two

1266
01:52:44,770 --> 01:52:50,150
projects. Right. It's 55 twice. Yes. But Augusta Water's paying 50, they're willing to give 50.

1267
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:57,910
Augusta Water 55, Augusta County 55, the state 110. Right. But there's two studies, right? There's the

1268
01:52:57,910 --> 01:53:05,610
waste. No, it's a combined. The total amount is 110, not 220. So, he said 220. Yeah. The total

1269
01:53:05,610 --> 01:53:11,710
The total amount is $220, but the state will do $110, so that leaves $110 in the match.

1270
01:53:16,330 --> 01:53:18,830
So $55 is the counting match.

1271
01:53:19,050 --> 01:53:24,630
We'll be getting out of $410,000 total in the match.

1272
01:53:25,190 --> 01:53:28,170
We're offering to put up $355,000.

1273
01:53:28,190 --> 01:53:33,020
So for us it would be $55,000 to do everything.

1274
01:53:33,900 --> 01:53:34,120
Correct.

1275
01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:40,000
That's not a problem, it's in the Beverly Manor District, that supervisor is not here,

1276
01:53:40,180 --> 01:53:42,260
he's got the money, I think we can cover that today.

1277
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:48,620
I would point out that when we had this conversation, when we applied for the business site ready

1278
01:53:48,620 --> 01:53:54,000
grant program, we actually committed as part of that application two and a half million

1279
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:58,880
dollars in match because we were trying to get a five million dollar grant to do

1280
01:53:58,880 --> 01:53:59,700
a pad ready site.

1281
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:01,420
We didn't get that.

1282
01:54:01,420 --> 01:54:06,720
So we got the water the water was a sewer was a question when we went through

1283
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:11,300
that process so the state in turn said since we have questions on water sewer

1284
01:54:11,300 --> 01:54:16,740
we'll give you half million dollars to go look at some of that so the 55,000

1285
01:54:16,740 --> 01:54:23,180
we can take care of out of economic development capital funds but it will

1286
01:54:23,180 --> 01:54:27,980
require a vote on Wednesday night to move that forward to do that 55,000

1287
01:54:27,980 --> 01:54:36,360
match. So we can reapply the next year. Oh yes. Yes, we could reapply. Mm-hmm. Yep.

1288
01:54:40,420 --> 01:54:46,480
The first project you talked about that that doesn't that is not included in

1289
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:51,840
what we're the figures were given now right? It's included in the 300,000 Augusta

1290
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,980
water will provide the match for the county will not have to provide a

1291
01:54:54,980 --> 01:55:01,760
for that portion. Okay. Thanks. That one was already in our projected budget in

1292
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:06,580
some out years. So would you all be doing that earlier?

1293
01:55:10,060 --> 01:55:12,980
My understanding is that we

1294
01:55:12,980 --> 01:55:19,380
have a two-year window to get this done and that's all. So I think it's all

1295
01:55:19,380 --> 01:55:21,700
going to be on the fast track.

1296
01:55:24,020 --> 01:55:26,460
It's doable as long as we can I think

1297
01:55:26,460 --> 01:55:29,340
there's one or two easements. That's where you always run into the problem.

1298
01:55:29,660 --> 01:55:36,020
Once somebody doesn't want to grant an easement, it becomes an issue. But as far

1299
01:55:36,020 --> 01:55:42,900
as constructing 580 feet of pipe, that should not be that big of an

1300
01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:47,740
issue. It is water pipe, so it's not going to have to be super deep. We do

1301
01:55:47,740 --> 01:55:52,780
have, as I mentioned, the crossing of Route 11. So that, you know, we've got

1302
01:55:52,780 --> 01:55:56,380
to get that through VDOT, then there's the railroad crossing. However it is

1303
01:55:56,380 --> 01:56:01,840
Shin Valley Railroad, it's not Norfolk Southern, so that they have typically been

1304
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:08,100
much more cooperative. Fewer hoops to jump through than what you have whenever you

1305
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:15,400
have Norfolk Southern typically. So yeah we think it should be doable in two

1306
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:22,240
years. And this construction project will also help our water tank over

1307
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,380
there if we have an interruption from

1308
01:56:24,380 --> 01:56:32,460
Stanton on water that it provides a way that we can replenish the water over in

1309
01:56:32,460 --> 01:56:38,700
that tank and which that will help us out tremendously too so that that is

1310
01:56:38,700 --> 01:56:40,500
correct that would allow us to get some very

1311
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:44,340
far water over there you know it's not the end all to everything

1312
01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:48,680
but it certainly will help with that there are some other projects that

1313
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:54,540
We talked about at our board meeting Thursday and that we're looking at doing

1314
01:56:54,540 --> 01:57:04,480
here in the coming years so our goal is to be to have a complete backup plan so

1315
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:11,080
that there's not an issue if we we our agreement with Stanton runs out in 2036

1316
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:18,660
so that's when we'll be renegotiated so we do want to have things ready we were

1317
01:57:18,660 --> 01:57:22,900
So whenever we do those negotiations that we have things where we need to be.

1318
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:29,020
And you know we had to boil water issue and things here and you never know when you're

1319
01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:34,000
going to have an interruption in your water line and system from Stanton to provide water there.

1320
01:57:35,020 --> 01:57:40,700
So we're kind of looking at this as a backup plan in case we would have an emergency situation

1321
01:57:40,700 --> 01:57:44,460
here too so help take care of us. Well one thing to remember there,

1322
01:57:44,460 --> 01:57:49,100
of the agreement that we have with the City of Stanton, we have to buy one million gallons

1323
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:54,680
a day. And they have to be able to provide us with three million gallons a day if we

1324
01:57:54,680 --> 01:58:03,480
need it. So it is good to have that much water available if you need it. But regardless

1325
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:08,220
until 2036, we're going to be buying a million gallons a day of water from the City of

1326
01:58:08,220 --> 01:58:10,440
stand. So okay

1327
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:23,240
everybody clear on these. I'll be on agenda for Wednesday night. Very good. Thank you. Thank you all.

1328
01:58:29,900 --> 01:58:32,460
Yes sir. I request five

1329
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:34,180
minute break. Okay. Cool.

1330
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:47,610
Me if we get the slides up that would be great. Thank you.

1331
02:07:00,140 --> 02:07:05,740
Can we go ahead? Go ahead. Okay. All right. At a past board meeting, we were asked to bring

1332
02:07:05,740 --> 02:07:11,880
back some renderings of the new sign that's proposed at Route 11 in Dickhoff Lane. So I do have

1333
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:16,880
some pictures here on the screen, and they were in their pockets as well. So this is

1334
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:24,480
one picture traveling south on Route 11, with the sign kind of tucked in there right

1335
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:26,320
in here.

1336
02:07:35,190 --> 02:07:39,070
This is another sign kind of at night, closer to the intersection, still

1337
02:07:39,070 --> 02:07:46,090
traveling south and it shows it lit and this is backlighting versus spot lights

1338
02:07:46,090 --> 02:07:53,680
on the ground and this is another view of the sign traveling north so

1339
02:07:59,090 --> 02:07:59,450
that gives

1340
02:07:59,450 --> 02:08:05,190
you an idea of what it looks like this is it without the rendering just a

1341
02:08:05,190 --> 02:08:09,910
simple bricks and color as a courthouse backlighting and the seal

1342
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:13,490
there on the left-hand side there the impediment and

1343
02:08:18,510 --> 02:08:19,090
this is the

1344
02:08:19,090 --> 02:08:24,150
diagram that I had shown earlier, where we've really talked about. This shows the

1345
02:08:24,150 --> 02:08:29,850
improvements to DeKuff Lane. You've got two, I'm sorry, you've got three lanes

1346
02:08:29,850 --> 02:08:34,490
going out onto Route 11, which are the top of the screen with the arrows. You

1347
02:08:34,490 --> 02:08:38,250
have a right turn lane, straight through and left turn lane, and then a

1348
02:08:39,290 --> 02:08:43,770
designated only left turn lane there. And then you've got one lane that's

1349
02:08:43,770 --> 02:08:47,970
coming into the building with a median in the middle, and the median is

1350
02:08:47,970 --> 02:08:51,610
where the sun is going to be, which is right here.

1351
02:08:54,730 --> 02:08:57,110
Current sun sits just below that right

1352
02:08:57,110 --> 02:09:01,570
here, so we're just kind of moving it over and back just a little bit to get it in the

1353
02:09:01,570 --> 02:09:07,650
median. All that meeting and that intersection is all designed to be not standards. That's

1354
02:09:07,650 --> 02:09:11,870
a project that Mr. Wolf's been working on and it's slated to go to construction here

1355
02:09:11,870 --> 02:09:17,590
hopefully in a year, Doug, am I right on that? About a year after which we are

1356
02:09:17,590 --> 02:09:18,610
planning to build sun.

1357
02:09:24,050 --> 02:09:27,890
The original plan was to go ahead and get it constructed as part

1358
02:09:27,890 --> 02:09:32,310
of the courthouse construction, but timing is not going to allow us to do that, to add

1359
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:37,750
on to their contract. And we need to build it after decoupling improvements are made,

1360
02:09:38,250 --> 02:09:42,750
just to allow us room, so it doesn't get, you know, damaged or down in the way, that

1361
02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:46,710
kind of thing. So we are planning to bid it out separately on its own. So we'll have

1362
02:09:46,710 --> 02:09:53,170
the construction plans for that to do it already? No, we don't have a cost for that

1363
02:09:53,170 --> 02:09:53,650
this time.

1364
02:09:58,370 --> 02:09:59,150
Sure we did.

1365
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:09,140
It's a red. It may not be the exact red that that person

1366
02:10:09,140 --> 02:10:11,600
would want but it's it's a red. Yes.

1367
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:16,550
What's the dimensions on the sign? Oh golly,

1368
02:10:16,630 --> 02:10:21,150
I don't know that I know. I've taught my head. I don't I don't know.

1369
02:10:24,230 --> 02:10:24,790
Honestly I

1370
02:10:24,790 --> 02:10:25,050
so?

1371
02:10:27,330 --> 02:10:28,750
It's sitting so low.

1372
02:10:35,190 --> 02:10:38,690
Yeah, the shrubbery too. This is going to set up higher and it's

1373
02:10:38,690 --> 02:10:43,350
going to allow for some landscaping as well. And it's going to be a boulevard style. So

1374
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:47,050
like when you get to the intersection, it's going to be a bigger intersection than when

1375
02:10:47,050 --> 02:10:52,010
you have now. So that alone is a presence. And then the sign would be between the

1376
02:10:52,010 --> 02:10:59,550
two lanes. Is there going to be any V dot sign each at that intersection up over this

1377
02:10:59,550 --> 02:11:00,950
to stop lights and all.

1378
02:11:01,350 --> 02:11:03,410
There is a sign that exists right now

1379
02:11:03,410 --> 02:11:05,450
and that intersection that points to Augusta County

1380
02:11:05,450 --> 02:11:07,630
Government Center, so it's green and white.

1381
02:11:08,930 --> 02:11:10,630
Yeah, but you're not gonna change yet.

1382
02:11:10,790 --> 02:11:11,930
No, we will leave it up there.

1383
02:11:13,570 --> 02:11:14,530
It's up there today.

1384
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:18,050
Yeah, I know there's one there today to match this one.

1385
02:11:18,730 --> 02:11:21,810
Oh no, it's on top up there, it's a green sign, yeah.

1386
02:11:23,670 --> 02:11:25,510
Is it a green sign up on top?

1387
02:11:26,630 --> 02:11:28,490
Yeah, it says Augusta County Government Center

1388
02:11:28,490 --> 02:11:31,990
with air on it. That'll remain in place.

1389
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:37,320
My only concern is somebody arriving to

1390
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:42,860
their court date drunk and hitting it. I hope they wouldn't be drunk, but it looks

1391
02:11:42,860 --> 02:11:47,960
like the perfect place for somebody to hit it and having driven up Lutuit

1392
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:53,780
numerous times and how many times their stop signs are taken out and their road

1393
02:11:53,780 --> 02:11:57,840
signs taken out. Understand your point. One of the main reasons why it was

1394
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:05,100
put where it is as far as being proposed are all the utilities that are located where

1395
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:11,760
it's at now and trying to get it there between what's going to be the new road and the bank.

1396
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:16,540
There's poles there that's not going to be moved, that's going to stay, and there's

1397
02:12:16,540 --> 02:12:21,380
just so many underground utilities to try to maneuver.

1398
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,480
And we thought it would be better to place it into the median where there wasn't anything.

1399
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:29,520
And this, the area I'm talking about is like right in here.

1400
02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:33,900
And you can see all these lines here that are utilities on the plans.

1401
02:12:49,390 --> 02:12:49,670
Okay.

1402
02:12:49,710 --> 02:12:50,610
I cannot thank the floor.

1403
02:12:52,150 --> 02:12:53,570
I think it's too high.

1404
02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:55,690
Keep the view down.

1405
02:12:58,770 --> 02:12:59,910
Just to take a discussion.

1406
02:13:01,710 --> 02:13:02,150
Okay.

1407
02:13:03,190 --> 02:13:04,330
Thank you all very much.

1408
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:09,350
Just in case any of y'all want to know why I ask her about duck food.

1409
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:12,970
I ask her every time I see her if she has dog cages.

1410
02:13:15,170 --> 02:13:17,730
So one day I said, let me tell you my duck story.

1411
02:13:18,630 --> 02:13:21,470
A little duck visit the grocery store and asked if he has any duck food.

1412
02:13:21,570 --> 02:13:22,730
And they said, no, it's a grocery store.

1413
02:13:23,510 --> 02:13:25,450
He goes back the next day, you got any duck food?

1414
02:13:25,630 --> 02:13:26,450
No, it's a grocery store.

1415
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:29,090
He goes in the third day, got any duck food?

1416
02:13:29,790 --> 02:13:30,970
It's a grocery store.

1417
02:13:31,070 --> 02:13:33,670
If you come in here again, I'll nail your little web feet to the floor.

1418
02:13:34,610 --> 02:13:36,630
He goes in the next day, got any nails?

1419
02:13:36,970 --> 02:13:37,730
It's not a hardware store.

1420
02:13:37,850 --> 02:13:38,510
It's a grocery store.

1421
02:13:38,950 --> 02:13:39,550
Got any duck food?

1422
02:13:39,550 --> 02:13:41,610
Got any indulgages?

1423
02:13:44,410 --> 02:13:48,090
I'm sure. Coming soon to a facility near us.

1424
02:13:49,150 --> 02:13:56,630
Mr. Fitzgerald. Yes, Mr. Chair. Next up is the Natural Chimneys Park campground restroom

1425
02:13:56,630 --> 02:14:05,910
additions. This is two additions to our existing restroom bathhouses in the in

1426
02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:13,610
the park, essentially to build an ADA compliant facility there. Over the years

1427
02:14:13,610 --> 02:14:19,910
we have done some upgrades in there and we've made it more ADA friendly but we

1428
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:24,270
have not made it ADA compliant. What this project does is basically build

1429
02:14:24,270 --> 02:14:29,950
two little small additions on to the bathhouses specifically for ADA

1430
02:14:29,950 --> 02:14:39,790
bathrooms and we bid this project out back in in December of 24 and at that

1431
02:14:39,790 --> 02:14:45,010
time we got some pretty substantial bids that we thought were that were really

1432
02:14:45,010 --> 02:14:50,070
high and so we put the project on hold for a little bit we've had

1433
02:14:50,070 --> 02:14:54,330
opportunity since then to have some more conversation with Nielsen

1434
02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:59,770
construction to work on getting that cost down to a more reasonable number.

1435
02:15:00,180 --> 02:15:12,800
They have provided us, and I provided in your packet, a cost of now, their cost at $104,280.78 for these two restrooms.

1436
02:15:13,540 --> 02:15:22,340
We would suggest a 10% contingency on that to make that $114,708.86 for a total project cost.

1437
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:30,180
Nielsen Construction has a contract already in place in Albemarle County that

1438
02:15:30,180 --> 02:15:35,440
is a cooperative contract so they have the language in it that allows other

1439
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:41,700
localities essentially to use that contract and you use Nielsen to do this

1440
02:15:41,700 --> 02:15:46,040
type of work. They bid that out across the mountain where they had multiple

1441
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:50,720
building projects within their parks and so when they did that they added

1442
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:55,540
the Cooperative Contract Clause to it, which allows other localities to use it.

1443
02:15:55,980 --> 02:16:04,580
We would suggest that we use that Cooperative Contract with Albemarle and negotiate the price

1444
02:16:04,580 --> 02:16:10,500
with Nielsen, which we have, and move forward with the project this fall as camping season

1445
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:11,040
ends.

1446
02:16:11,700 --> 02:16:15,980
We would have the project done before camp season begins in the spring.

1447
02:16:16,780 --> 02:16:22,600
It would be my suggestion that we cover the cost of this from two line items, one being

1448
02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:28,220
50% of the cost to Mr. Slaven's infrastructure account, which he's agreed to.

1449
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:35,100
The other 50% of the cost to come from our tourism account, as our campground does provide

1450
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:37,760
for a tourism opportunity as well.

1451
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:42,880
So with that, that would be on the agenda for Wednesday night for considerations and

1452
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:44,620
we can answer any questions that you have.

1453
02:16:46,530 --> 02:16:50,130
Who did we receive bids from besides Nielsen?

1454
02:16:52,610 --> 02:16:54,590
I can send that to you. I've got it on my desk.

1455
02:16:54,770 --> 02:16:59,070
There was, I think, four contractors originally had sent bids in.

1456
02:16:59,570 --> 02:17:01,310
But I can send that to you by email.

1457
02:17:01,870 --> 02:17:07,510
And was Nielsen the lowest? Is that why you...

1458
02:17:07,510 --> 02:17:10,570
Nielsen was actually one of the higher bids originally,

1459
02:17:10,910 --> 02:17:12,310
when we originally built it out.

1460
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:17,890
Well, when you were, why did you decide to work with them on trying to get the

1461
02:17:17,890 --> 02:17:23,450
cost down and not the other companies? Or maybe you did. So we, when we did the

1462
02:17:23,450 --> 02:17:27,170
bid, so the bid we just let go, we're not going to move forward with the

1463
02:17:27,170 --> 02:17:32,350
bid as we sent it out. So we just stopped it and let all the contractors

1464
02:17:32,350 --> 02:17:36,770
know that the bids came in too high and we were not going to proceed with

1465
02:17:36,770 --> 02:17:41,110
the project at this time. That's what we did back in December. And since

1466
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:49,170
then and Rusty's conversation with Nielsen on some other projects. They let Rusty know

1467
02:17:49,170 --> 02:17:53,830
that they had a contract in Albemarle County and that if we wanted them to look at the

1468
02:17:53,830 --> 02:18:00,170
project through that lens, then they would do that for us and give us a price. And so

1469
02:18:00,170 --> 02:18:05,690
we said, yeah, let's, if you think that you can do it at a better price for us

1470
02:18:06,190 --> 02:18:09,770
than what you originally had said, then let's look at it.

1471
02:18:10,030 --> 02:18:12,530
So that's how Rusty worked with Nielsen.

1472
02:18:12,630 --> 02:18:15,030
They came back with this new number.

1473
02:18:15,590 --> 02:18:18,990
But the bid document that we sent out has been closed.

1474
02:18:19,430 --> 02:18:21,330
We're not moving forward with that at all.

1475
02:18:21,430 --> 02:18:24,230
So we did not call each one of the bidders

1476
02:18:24,230 --> 02:18:28,110
that put in originally to go back and do it.

1477
02:18:28,110 --> 02:18:29,830
We would have to go back and bid it all out again

1478
02:18:29,830 --> 02:18:31,410
to do that, so we didn't do that

1479
02:18:31,410 --> 02:18:32,250
on this particular one.

1480
02:18:32,250 --> 02:18:38,630
But why wouldn't you if you I mean I don't understand how you can just deal

1481
02:18:38,630 --> 02:18:43,570
with Nielsen and not open it back up to other we can we can do that because they

1482
02:18:43,570 --> 02:18:50,190
have a cooperative contract in Albemarle County and this price is lower than the

1483
02:18:50,190 --> 02:18:54,130
original low bid that we had. Why do we know other companies don't have some

1484
02:18:54,130 --> 02:18:59,930
kind of agreement that we could tag on to? Well we haven't asked that

1485
02:18:59,930 --> 02:19:05,070
question, but I mean we can always re-bid it back out. The issue with re-bidding it

1486
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:10,750
back out is a time issue because we would like to get the project done while

1487
02:19:10,750 --> 02:19:15,230
camping season's out in order to get the project done before new camping season.

1488
02:19:15,510 --> 02:19:19,950
So it is an option that we could re-bid the project back out again under

1489
02:19:19,950 --> 02:19:25,290
the original terms. When Nielsen looked at this and Rusty would know

1490
02:19:25,290 --> 02:19:28,250
better than me. But when Nielsen looked at the project,

1491
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:32,550
they did the project based on

1492
02:19:32,550 --> 02:19:39,610
what they saw and not necessarily what our architect had designed fully. And so I think

1493
02:19:39,610 --> 02:19:45,870
they made some adjustments in their pricing to move the project forward. So that's the

1494
02:19:45,870 --> 02:19:49,430
reason why the pricing came down to where it's at.

1495
02:19:52,020 --> 02:19:59,000
Ms. Price what's your opinion on sending it back the need to send it back out

1496
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:01,400
for others to bid on it well

1497
02:20:03,640 --> 02:20:06,320
I think I would need more details in terms of what

1498
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:10,860
he's talking about in particular with this contract and the prior bid but

1499
02:20:10,860 --> 02:20:15,840
there is certainly a mechanism within Virginia procurement to use other state

1500
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:22,720
contracts and that's a commonplace decision by localities I hope that's

1501
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:30,580
helpful but that's that is certainly provided for as a commonplace solution to the problem

1502
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:37,760
because that that particular contract has already been it's been bid it's been negotiated so it's a

1503
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:45,880
competitive solution thanks what was the price that they originally you said they were one of

1504
02:20:45,880 --> 02:20:52,720
the higher bidder so what was the price that they originally bid I can I can get

1505
02:20:52,720 --> 02:21:00,460
that for you and if you want we can let's oh well we won't we let Misty do

1506
02:21:00,460 --> 02:21:04,720
her thing and I'll run down and get that bid sheet on my desk when we come back

1507
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:05,940
Oh, you got it?

1508
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:07,140
Oh, Missy's got it, OK.

1509
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:10,060
You got it.

1510
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:10,780
There you go.

1511
02:21:13,940 --> 02:21:20,960
OK, so the original low bid was Sustainable Solutions

1512
02:21:21,940 --> 02:21:29,180
of Virginia, and that was $135,899.

1513
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:34,830
Montgomery Consulting out of Richmond

1514
02:21:34,830 --> 02:21:43,270
bidded at $176,000. Lance construction at Hirshman Park, yeah Broadway, bidded at

1515
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:53,670
$146,254 and then originally Nielsen's contract was at $164,889. So those

1516
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:59,970
were the, that's the original, so it was four bidders and those were the

1517
02:21:59,970 --> 02:22:06,170
original bid prices. So they was able to cut just because going through the

1518
02:22:06,170 --> 02:22:10,590
state 164,000 back to 104,000.

1519
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:15,280
How were they able to cut all of that out of it

1520
02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:17,340
when they've seen that all the material?

1521
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:22,430
Well again, Rusty's not

1522
02:22:22,910 --> 02:22:26,830
here today but Rusty did the discussion with them and if you see in the

1523
02:22:28,850 --> 02:22:33,570
spreadsheet that we sent out they've got their costs there shown with

1524
02:22:33,570 --> 02:22:41,230
their subcontractor cost and when they went back and looked at it, they

1525
02:22:42,130 --> 02:22:45,670
determined that their cost could come down. So I don't know how to answer that

1526
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:49,650
other than tell you that Rusty had conversation with them, had them relook at

1527
02:22:49,650 --> 02:22:54,010
it again based on that, and you know they came back to us with the hundred

1528
02:22:54,010 --> 02:22:54,330
and four.

1529
02:22:57,100 --> 02:23:01,920
But it's all in everything in here is what was included in the

1530
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:07,700
original bid that went out to accomplish, you know, getting both these ADA

1531
02:23:07,700 --> 02:23:08,780
bathrooms constructed.

1532
02:23:14,140 --> 02:23:16,820
I just kind of find it hard to believe that you cut

1533
02:23:16,820 --> 02:23:20,680
$60,000 off of a price that you done turned in.

1534
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:29,960
I know but why and I know

1535
02:23:29,960 --> 02:23:35,060
they're going through the bids and like that and maybe maybe they are

1536
02:23:35,060 --> 02:23:40,300
projecting of getting material off of multiple jobs and things to save in

1537
02:23:40,300 --> 02:23:42,100
the money, but then I

1538
02:23:44,820 --> 02:23:46,480
got questions to make that too.

1539
02:23:48,940 --> 02:23:55,980
Well, I mean, if they cut the money that much, what's to say sustainable solutions couldn't

1540
02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:57,020
come down even more?

1541
02:23:59,790 --> 02:24:04,790
And if we did send it back out to bid, I understand your urgency for time, but if

1542
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:08,730
we did send it back out to bid, how long, what additional time do you think that would

1543
02:24:08,730 --> 02:24:09,970
add to the project?

1544
02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:11,170
What's that take that's missed out?

1545
02:24:21,560 --> 02:24:21,780
What?

1546
02:24:25,500 --> 02:24:29,980
We issued it as an IFB so we already have the plans, correct?

1547
02:24:30,540 --> 02:24:31,440
We've got plans, yeah.

1548
02:24:31,460 --> 02:24:32,180
We already have the plans.

1549
02:24:32,440 --> 02:24:33,580
I mean, we could reissue it.

1550
02:24:34,300 --> 02:24:38,340
If I'm not mistaken, I think it has to be up at a minimum of 10 business days.

1551
02:24:39,500 --> 02:24:45,620
So, I mean, you know, I'd say within a month we'd be ready to look at them,

1552
02:24:46,540 --> 02:24:49,420
but there's no guarantee you're going to get lower prices.

1553
02:24:50,340 --> 02:24:51,760
But you have no error acts?

1554
02:24:51,960 --> 02:24:52,900
You're exactly right.

1555
02:24:52,900 --> 02:24:57,300
What was your expectations in pricing on this job?

1556
02:25:01,750 --> 02:25:04,110
Well, Mr. Garber will confirm my estimates.

1557
02:25:04,370 --> 02:25:06,470
They've been real good here lately when we were talking about courthouse.

1558
02:25:06,690 --> 02:25:14,550
But certainly I would have guessed that the square footage cost of this was way up there over $700 a square foot.

1559
02:25:14,690 --> 02:25:19,450
And I was anticipating we'd have it somewhere around $400 a square foot or so.

1560
02:25:21,050 --> 02:25:27,790
So, it is a small project, that does play a role in the price that you get because it's

1561
02:25:27,790 --> 02:25:32,370
not, you know, both these are very small projects and not a lot of material and so forth.

1562
02:25:32,970 --> 02:25:37,950
So your square foot price is going to be a little higher, but originally I think we

1563
02:25:37,950 --> 02:25:43,130
were anticipating around the $400 square foot and I think it was a little over $700 square

1564
02:25:43,130 --> 02:25:43,670
foot originally.

1565
02:25:45,630 --> 02:25:50,550
You negotiated with the low bidder on the animal shelter, why didn't you negotiate with

1566
02:25:50,550 --> 02:25:51,730
the low bidder on this one?

1567
02:25:52,750 --> 02:25:57,030
Yeah, we did on the animal shelter negotiate with the low bidder.

1568
02:25:57,390 --> 02:26:03,970
This particular project, because the timing of it, when we looked at that project cost,

1569
02:26:04,770 --> 02:26:06,830
I had conversations with Mr. Slaven about it.

1570
02:26:06,930 --> 02:26:10,630
We decided at that time that was too much money at the time.

1571
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:13,830
It was getting close to the time to open up the camp in season

1572
02:26:14,430 --> 02:26:18,830
We said we don't want to move forward with it. So we decided that we were going to cut that off

1573
02:26:19,430 --> 02:26:25,310
And just let folks know that we wasn't moving forward because we didn't feel like we had to the time to negotiate the price

1574
02:26:25,310 --> 02:26:30,430
Get all that done get the contract in place in order to get the construction project done before

1575
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:36,310
We were able to open up for camping and so we decided to put it on the back burner until

1576
02:26:37,310 --> 02:26:40,070
this about this time and the conversation

1577
02:26:41,130 --> 02:26:44,450
that Rusty and I were having about how do we accomplish this project

1578
02:26:45,210 --> 02:26:49,450
and try to save us some money led to this conversation

1579
02:26:50,010 --> 02:26:54,750
with Nielsen. Certainly if a board wants to send it out to bed again we can

1580
02:26:54,750 --> 02:26:58,450
certainly do that. That's another option to move forward with.

1581
02:26:59,210 --> 02:27:02,650
And the timing of it is still questionable whether we can get to it

1582
02:27:02,650 --> 02:27:07,450
and whether they can get to it we would have to put I think in the bed some requirement for them to

1583
02:27:07,450 --> 02:27:12,390
be complete by a certain date so that we can make sure we had those things done

1584
02:27:12,390 --> 02:27:14,610
by the next camp and see I

1585
02:27:22,160 --> 02:27:25,620
personally would like to see go back out with the

1586
02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:29,200
stipulation had the work has to be completed by its date at

1587
02:27:42,930 --> 02:27:43,290
the moment

1588
02:27:43,290 --> 02:27:46,930
scheduled beyond Wednesday night but what are you gonna do

1589
02:27:51,980 --> 02:27:53,140
Pam was that

1590
02:27:53,140 --> 02:27:58,100
emotion where we're not we can't do that today but look I don't I don't care

1591
02:27:58,100 --> 02:28:02,900
if we can buff it back and get to be a suits me fine I don't have anything

1592
02:28:02,900 --> 02:28:07,600
other than I would like to see this work done. We kicked this thing down the road.

1593
02:28:08,220 --> 02:28:11,340
Actually it's been kicked down the road two years when I thought we were gonna

1594
02:28:12,020 --> 02:28:13,600
maybe be able to work on it.

1595
02:28:19,460 --> 02:28:25,060
She can get it out in ten days. If you take it all

1596
02:28:25,060 --> 02:28:31,620
for wins you want to relook at this thing suits me fine. So that's the way to do it or

1597
02:28:31,620 --> 02:28:38,340
I think we can make it make a motion and put it back in days. I mean, I mean, how long how long do we let people?

1598
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:42,240
Right

1599
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:06,670
Okay

1600
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:21,000
You want to pull it? Yeah, be fine. Okay, all right start over. Thank you

1601
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:25,320
All right, can I have

1602
02:29:45,410 --> 02:29:46,130
my slides please?

1603
02:29:48,970 --> 02:29:51,130
All right, Mr. Chairman, members of the board,

1604
02:29:51,470 --> 02:29:54,770
I'm pleased to present the fiscal year 25 financial report

1605
02:29:54,770 --> 02:29:55,130
to you.

1606
02:29:56,010 --> 02:29:59,210
Your agenda packet has a budget on sheet revenue

1607
02:29:59,210 --> 02:29:59,610
and expenditures.

1608
02:29:59,610 --> 02:29:59,870
endangers.

1609
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,980
Summaries with explanations of variances for the budget. There's a school fund carryover

1610
02:30:04,980 --> 02:30:10,240
calculation and a 10-year summary. I'm just going to quickly go over some highlights because

1611
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:14,860
I do realize we're towards the end of September. If you have questions, please let me know.

1612
02:30:17,180 --> 02:30:23,360
Just a quick overview. So our fund structure, our budget does consist of several funds.

1613
02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:28,240
Our general funds are a primary fund for the general government. That's where we

1614
02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:32,380
We have our administration or judicial public safety maintenance, community development and

1615
02:30:32,380 --> 02:30:32,640
cultural.

1616
02:30:33,860 --> 02:30:38,600
We do receive, the general fund does receive transfers from revenue recovery and the county

1617
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:39,760
capital improvement fund.

1618
02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:44,720
I have ARPA on there, but ARPA is dying down as we wind down with those funds.

1619
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:52,680
And then the general fund transfers funds to the DSS, CSA, school fund, debt fund

1620
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:54,000
and county capital improvements.

1621
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:54,240
investments,

1622
02:30:57,030 --> 02:31:01,830
other funds, fire-revolving loan, asset forfeiture, economic development.

1623
02:31:02,550 --> 02:31:06,210
We also have our school funds for school cafeteria, school capital improvements.

1624
02:31:06,550 --> 02:31:07,370
We have our debt fund.

1625
02:31:08,030 --> 02:31:08,910
We have our head start.

1626
02:31:09,170 --> 02:31:11,250
We have governor's school, and then we have ARPA.

1627
02:31:12,010 --> 02:31:15,090
ARPA should wind down in FY26.

1628
02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:20,330
We've almost spent all of that money that we've received under ARPA, so that one

1629
02:31:20,330 --> 02:31:21,130
should be going away.

1630
02:31:21,130 --> 02:31:22,110
The

1631
02:31:25,730 --> 02:31:31,510
2025 general fund revenues, property taxes made up of 64% of the budget.

1632
02:31:32,430 --> 02:31:38,650
Local taxes came in second at 18% of the budget and our state funds were third at 9% of the budget.

1633
02:31:40,430 --> 02:31:44,070
Percentages were fairly close to what they were in FY24.

1634
02:31:44,770 --> 02:31:48,230
Our property taxes did increase from 62 to 64%.

1635
02:31:49,030 --> 02:31:55,670
Our local taxes decreased from 19 to 18 percent and our use of money and property decreased

1636
02:31:55,670 --> 02:31:59,350
from four to three, so just some slight changes.

1637
02:32:02,380 --> 02:32:08,000
The real estate assessed value on one one of 25 per the Commissioner Revenue's Memo

1638
02:32:08,700 --> 02:32:13,800
was approximately 11 billion nine hundred, 11 billion nine hundred million dollars that

1639
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:18,980
equates to about 60.7 million dollars in real estate taxes for the calendar year.

1640
02:32:18,980 --> 02:32:28,100
The assessment did increase over 24 calendar year 24 by about half percent, or $262,000.

1641
02:32:30,190 --> 02:32:37,780
This assessment does not deduct for tax relief the disabled veterans or any kind of TIP agreements.

1642
02:32:41,370 --> 02:32:45,570
Our business personal property, we had an increase of about 25 percent.

1643
02:32:45,570 --> 02:32:51,870
We typically budget for 1% growth, but we have had some new businesses come online.

1644
02:32:53,250 --> 02:32:57,710
Our other personal property, we did have a decrease of about a half a percent.

1645
02:32:58,610 --> 02:33:05,030
When we did the budget, we did expect values to start to decline as the vehicle inventory

1646
02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:06,370
rebounded from COVID.

1647
02:33:07,230 --> 02:33:10,850
We originally estimated that we were going to have a four and a half percent reduction

1648
02:33:10,850 --> 02:33:14,350
in those values, but again, we only had about a half a percent.

1649
02:33:14,350 --> 02:33:15,330
Our

1650
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:26,020
sales tax revenue, when compared to FY24, was an increase of 2.6%.

1651
02:33:27,260 --> 02:33:29,660
Inflation has trended downward over the last year.

1652
02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:35,220
And, you know, it's likely led to a slight increase in the sales tax revenue.

1653
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:38,640
The changes in consumer spending patterns can also contribute.

1654
02:33:39,220 --> 02:33:43,360
They're the base for our sales tax revenue and relies primarily on good sold.

1655
02:33:43,360 --> 02:33:44,500
business

1656
02:33:48,150 --> 02:33:56,050
licenses. For 2025, we were at $5.9 million. This was approximately 3%

1657
02:33:56,050 --> 02:33:59,470
more than our FY24 revenues, or about $200,000.

1658
02:34:03,510 --> 02:34:06,330
Other revenues, Sir Bank

1659
02:34:06,330 --> 02:34:15,710
franchise tax, we increased from 274,000 in FY24 to 293,000 in FY25.

1660
02:34:15,710 --> 02:34:18,590
This was an increase of about 6.8%.

1661
02:34:18,590 --> 02:34:25,050
This tax is assessed based on the ratio of local deposits to total statewide deposits of the bank.

1662
02:34:26,210 --> 02:34:34,290
Our lodging, when comparing FY25 to FY24, we increased about a half a percent, or about almost $6,700.

1663
02:34:35,870 --> 02:34:42,710
Our meals revenue increased by 2.6% over FY24, or about $129,000.

1664
02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:50,830
dollars. Our permits, we did have a 23% increase over FY24, which totaled about

1665
02:34:50,830 --> 02:34:56,410
$108,000. It did look like when I look back through the reports that we had

1666
02:34:56,410 --> 02:34:58,410
some several large permits issued to businesses.

1667
02:35:01,020 --> 02:35:02,620
Our interest on deposit, we

1668
02:35:02,620 --> 02:35:10,100
had a almost 1% decrease when compared to FY24 or about $42,000. And we'll

1669
02:35:10,100 --> 02:35:15,620
note that if you've paid attention the feds just dropped the rate on 917 so I

1670
02:35:15,620 --> 02:35:19,020
expect those rate I expect that income to continue to decline.

1671
02:35:25,310 --> 02:35:27,450
Recordation just

1672
02:35:27,450 --> 02:35:31,490
like interest income it's a volatile revenue source it depends heavenly on

1673
02:35:31,490 --> 02:35:37,570
the economy and our interest rates. For FY 25 we had about 1.1 million

1674
02:35:37,570 --> 02:35:44,310
dollars in local recordation revenue and we had zero from the state. If you

1675
02:35:44,310 --> 02:35:51,010
remember in 2021 the state cut our recordation state funding and I believe

1676
02:35:51,010 --> 02:35:56,350
they moved it to Hampton Roads maybe so we have not gotten that back.

1677
02:36:00,070 --> 02:36:00,490
State

1678
02:36:00,490 --> 02:36:11,050
funding so our library aid and FY 25 increased to $265,970 that was an

1679
02:36:11,050 --> 02:36:12,610
increase of about $18,000.

1680
02:36:14,910 --> 02:36:21,390
Our communication tax was down $29,000 from last year. It continues

1681
02:36:21,390 --> 02:36:29,370
to slowly drop year over year. If you look from 2025 back to 2011, which was the last

1682
02:36:29,370 --> 02:36:35,730
increase we've seen, we're down 39% on our communications tax. The COMP Board,

1683
02:36:35,730 --> 02:36:40,670
We did have an increase of about 4.3% or $268,000.

1684
02:36:41,630 --> 02:36:46,390
This was mainly due to the cost of living increases that the comp board issued.

1685
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:51,760
Cigarette tax, I will probably drop this one off.

1686
02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:56,100
This is not really that new a revenue for us anymore, but I've kept it on here just

1687
02:36:56,100 --> 02:37:00,680
because we kind of keep playing with the cost per pack and everything.

1688
02:37:00,680 --> 02:37:08,760
So, if you remember, we started this tax in 1-1 of 2022, which was the FY22 revised budget.

1689
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:18,640
For FY25, we budgeted $600,000, and we actually received just a little over $560,000 in cigarette

1690
02:37:18,640 --> 02:37:20,080
tax revenue.

1691
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:27,860
The county ordinance was 15 cent per pack and FY23, 22, 23, and 24.

1692
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:37,500
The FY25 tax was at 30 cent per pack and effective 7, 1 of 25 is maxed out at the 40 cent per pack rate.

1693
02:37:41,980 --> 02:37:50,680
Our 2025 general fund expenditures, you can see that public safety remains the largest portion of the general fund expenditures at 61%.

1694
02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:54,920
This is an increase of about $4.6 million.

1695
02:37:56,420 --> 02:37:59,880
We all know what we've done in the last year with the budget.

1696
02:38:00,460 --> 02:38:04,680
We had increases in fire rescue and ECC and the sheriff's office with personnel.

1697
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:12,080
The administration decreased over last year by approximately $356,000.

1698
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:16,200
The main reason for that is because we've concluded the reassessment.

1699
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:22,940
The reassessment is one-time costs that we occur every five years, and it crosses usually

1700
02:38:22,940 --> 02:38:25,380
two fiscal years, and we've concluded that.

1701
02:38:27,960 --> 02:38:32,220
Our judicial increased over the last fiscal year by about $350,000.

1702
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:37,560
This increase was mainly due to some grant funding and some personnel changes in the

1703
02:38:37,560 --> 02:38:41,220
Commonwealth Attorney's Office related to the body-worn camera project.

1704
02:38:41,220 --> 02:38:50,600
budget. Our cultural increased over last fiscal year by about $345,000. Parks and Rec continues

1705
02:38:50,600 --> 02:38:54,860
to offer programming that attracts interest and increased expenses, but these expenses

1706
02:38:54,860 --> 02:39:00,140
are offset by revenue. The library also had increases related to increased operating cost

1707
02:39:00,140 --> 02:39:04,680
and personnel changes, but overall these numbers remain consistent with prior years.

1708
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:12,820
Over 60% of the budget is personnel cost.

1709
02:39:13,740 --> 02:39:20,300
It's by far our largest expenditure at $39.8 million or 61.4% of the budget.

1710
02:39:21,700 --> 02:39:25,860
Our contractual is next at 9.3% of the budget or about $6 million.

1711
02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:32,900
This is the landfill, the dump site hauling, any kind of audits, maintenance service contracts.

1712
02:39:34,700 --> 02:39:37,160
Operations came in next at $5.2 million.

1713
02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:43,520
dollars I mean I'm sorry excuse me let me rephrase that operations came in at

1714
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:47,840
five point two percent or three point three million dollars and our supplies

1715
02:39:48,620 --> 02:39:52,960
totaled eight percent or about five point one million dollars and it does

1716
02:39:52,960 --> 02:39:58,560
include our utilities our compute contributions were about ten point four

1717
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:02,420
million dollars or about sixteen point one percent of the budget this does

1718
02:40:02,420 --> 02:40:06,480
include our fire rescue volunteers our contributions to Middle River the

1719
02:40:06,480 --> 02:40:12,880
Detention Center, the Office on Youth, the CSB Tourism, our Health Department, and our

1720
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:13,760
Animal Service Center.

1721
02:40:15,020 --> 02:40:17,800
These numbers remain consistent with prior years as well.

1722
02:40:21,020 --> 02:40:24,240
Overall our revenues were above what we budgeted for revised.

1723
02:40:25,340 --> 02:40:31,520
We're about $1.1 million over what we had budgeted, or just a little less than 1%,

1724
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:33,600
it came in about $100.8.

1725
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:34,780
overall

1726
02:40:39,420 --> 02:40:47,200
our expenditures were under budget including the schools so we were

1727
02:40:47,200 --> 02:40:52,660
total we were 2.5 percent under budget you can see a breakdown we've got total

1728
02:40:52,660 --> 02:40:57,340
expenditures less our transfers to the school fund less our transfers to the

1729
02:40:57,340 --> 02:41:01,840
school capital for buses less our transfers for debt service and county

1730
02:41:01,840 --> 02:41:06,860
capital and then the transfers to DSS and CSA we also still have a transfer

1731
02:41:06,860 --> 02:41:07,820
for the revenue recovery.

1732
02:41:08,720 --> 02:41:10,840
So you can see overall our expenditures

1733
02:41:10,840 --> 02:41:14,140
were about $3.8 million under budget fund

1734
02:41:17,210 --> 02:41:17,650
balance.

1735
02:41:20,750 --> 02:41:26,390
So FY25 fund balance came in over budget by 0.8%.

1736
02:41:27,970 --> 02:41:30,870
Expenditures were under budget due to close management

1737
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:32,530
by departments and vacancy savings.

1738
02:41:33,290 --> 02:41:35,110
We do use our year-end fund balance

1739
02:41:35,110 --> 02:41:36,530
to supplement our capital budget.

1740
02:41:36,530 --> 02:41:43,590
And for 2025, that nets to $3,957,436.

1741
02:41:46,690 --> 02:41:48,290
And then this is just a breakdown.

1742
02:41:48,930 --> 02:41:52,050
So the general fund balance was 4.7.

1743
02:41:52,650 --> 02:41:57,470
The school did have a fund balance of $824,749.

1744
02:41:58,390 --> 02:42:05,110
That leaves the county with a net fund balance of $3,957,436, as I mentioned.

1745
02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:06,230
So

1746
02:42:11,320 --> 02:42:24,080
just looking forward to FY26, typically I just do a comparison of July of FY24 to, I'm sorry, July of FY25 to July of FY26.

1747
02:42:24,520 --> 02:42:36,400
And you can see, so when you compare the month of July from 24 to 25, which is going to be your FY25 and your FY26 budget, you can see our sales taxes down a little bit.

1748
02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:40,480
We did have increases in our local recordation and our lodging.

1749
02:42:41,140 --> 02:42:44,340
Our meals is down a little bit. Our permits are down a little bit.

1750
02:42:44,960 --> 02:42:50,600
We did have an increase in fines and we had a decrease in interest income and communications.

1751
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:57,180
Overall, when you compare the month of July for FY25 to the month of July for FY26,

1752
02:42:57,880 --> 02:43:00,560
our revenue is down by about $168,000.

1753
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:06,240
That's not really telling. It's just a one-month look back snapshot.

1754
02:43:10,690 --> 02:43:13,030
Just to cover revenue recovery really quick.

1755
02:43:14,090 --> 02:43:21,110
So if you look at revenue recovery revenue for FY25, it did increase when compared to FY24.

1756
02:43:21,710 --> 02:43:24,350
Our billing is up about $161,000.

1757
02:43:25,610 --> 02:43:32,990
Just as a reminder, our billing for medical transports has been done solely by the finance department since July of 2018.

1758
02:43:35,230 --> 02:43:37,350
So we're doing really well there.

1759
02:43:37,650 --> 02:43:41,150
We do continue to keep our rates in line with Medicare.

1760
02:43:42,090 --> 02:43:48,210
We're not sure what these Medicare or Medicaid cuts are going to do to our revenue transport,

1761
02:43:49,010 --> 02:43:52,130
but we'll have to wait and see.

1762
02:43:52,210 --> 02:43:53,310
But right now they're doing pretty good.

1763
02:43:54,470 --> 02:43:56,210
And then this is just a comparison.

1764
02:43:57,070 --> 02:44:01,770
This is a four-year look at what the agencies are receiving in reimbursements from the

1765
02:44:01,770 --> 02:44:02,570
revenue recovery.

1766
02:44:02,570 --> 02:44:07,950
You can see Stewards Draft by far is the largest, and Deerfield is the smallest.

1767
02:44:15,310 --> 02:44:15,970
Any questions?

1768
02:44:19,400 --> 02:44:20,760
If not, I'll move on to infrastructure.

1769
02:44:24,570 --> 02:44:30,910
So in your packet, you do have a infrastructure ads and deletes sheet.

1770
02:44:31,210 --> 02:44:33,630
These are just projects that you all have allocated money to.

1771
02:44:34,310 --> 02:44:39,110
The projects are either mostly complete, well, not mostly complete.

1772
02:44:39,210 --> 02:44:43,330
The projects are complete, and there's either a little bit of money left

1773
02:44:43,330 --> 02:44:46,630
that I need you all to uncover so I can put it back into your infrastructure

1774
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:53,590
accounts or in this case Mrs. Bragg I would like $15.30 to cover the

1775
02:44:53,590 --> 02:44:59,370
overages on the circulation desk and that garbage can. So if you would allow that I would appreciate it.

1776
02:45:00,780 --> 02:45:05,360
Um, it's offset by the fact that I'm giving you some money back on the Stewart's Draft

1777
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:06,500
Park meeting, so.

1778
02:45:09,400 --> 02:45:12,980
Other than that, the majority of the infrastructure accounts are pretty well

1779
02:45:12,980 --> 02:45:19,360
cleaned up. Um, and then the last thing I have on the agenda for you all is the school

1780
02:45:19,360 --> 02:45:20,500
boards, um,

1781
02:45:23,150 --> 02:45:27,950
year in fund balance memo. Um, Mr. Fitzgerald, do you want to cover that

1782
02:45:27,950 --> 02:45:31,370
since they're asking for something a little bit different than what they have in years

1783
02:45:31,370 --> 02:45:37,650
past? Yeah typically what they've asked for in the years past is to take all

1784
02:45:37,650 --> 02:45:44,250
their fund balance and essentially put it into their into their debt fund. This

1785
02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:53,950
year they had 824,749 dollars in fund balance and they're asking if they

1786
02:45:53,950 --> 02:46:00,630
could put 550,000 of that directly into their school debt service CIP fund and

1787
02:46:00,630 --> 02:46:05,610
And this is also the same fund that you all just increased this budget year by $2 million.

1788
02:46:06,490 --> 02:46:10,670
So they want to take that $550 put in there.

1789
02:46:10,770 --> 02:46:16,710
They keep a consistent line item in that debt fund at $500,000 in the fund balance toward

1790
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:17,330
the debt fund.

1791
02:46:17,470 --> 02:46:18,870
And so they're asking for $550.

1792
02:46:19,730 --> 02:46:26,890
And then they would like to take the remainder $274,749 and use that to build the first

1793
02:46:26,890 --> 02:46:33,430
phase of the Buffalo Gap girls softball field and by understanding that this would get the

1794
02:46:33,430 --> 02:46:40,070
field built and get it into a playable condition so that they could relocate from the existing

1795
02:46:40,070 --> 02:46:45,730
field which is down over the hill in the floodplain, hard to get to, and so they would build

1796
02:46:45,730 --> 02:46:52,150
it up on the hill. This spot is kind of in behind. If you know where their livestock

1797
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:54,530
stock building is in our house that we rent.

1798
02:46:54,790 --> 02:46:56,690
It's kind of right in there beside that.

1799
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:58,990
And so they'd like to use that money

1800
02:46:59,590 --> 02:47:01,170
to get that project built.

1801
02:47:01,790 --> 02:47:03,350
They'll come back in future years

1802
02:47:03,350 --> 02:47:06,470
with their capital budget and increase it

1803
02:47:06,470 --> 02:47:09,430
and do some scoreboards and

1804
02:47:11,390 --> 02:47:14,130
press boxes and dugouts and those types of things

1805
02:47:14,130 --> 02:47:15,790
I think are gonna be at a later phase.

1806
02:47:16,430 --> 02:47:19,190
But this covers the actual building of the field

1807
02:47:19,190 --> 02:47:21,070
and it gets them in a position

1808
02:47:21,070 --> 02:47:26,070
where they can play on it this spring and so their school board has considered that and

1809
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:31,190
they've actually, you've got to copy in your packet a letter from the school board requesting that

1810
02:47:31,690 --> 02:47:34,430
approval of you all on Wednesday night.

1811
02:47:38,880 --> 02:47:40,620
So from, I'll get a question on that.

1812
02:47:40,620 --> 02:47:42,360
What's the cost of the field?

1813
02:47:44,360 --> 02:47:45,860
$274,749, is my understanding.

1814
02:47:46,340 --> 02:47:47,920
Okay, so all of that is going toward that field.

1815
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:49,480
All of that is going toward the field, yes.

1816
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:57,780
If you don't mind, if my memory serves me correct,

1817
02:47:57,780 --> 02:48:03,220
there was a two million dollar increase or 20 million over ten years that they

1818
02:48:03,220 --> 02:48:08,860
asked for for their debt service correct that's correct they gave us a long list

1819
02:48:08,860 --> 02:48:14,260
of things here they need to spend money on the new gym for the fights and another

1820
02:48:14,260 --> 02:48:19,300
new gym for the fights some sidewalks and maintenance thing do y'all remember

1821
02:48:19,300 --> 02:48:30,200
seeing a media tower on that list. At fortifieds? Mm-hmm. There's no so no

1822
02:48:30,200 --> 02:48:38,040
cost associated with it. So I got to ask I said the media tower you have now is

1823
02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:41,560
center block and cement thing all the last as long as the pyramids are we

1824
02:48:41,560 --> 02:48:46,200
doing a new media tower? The answer was all that was gonna sit on top of the

1825
02:48:46,200 --> 02:48:47,000
new field house.

1826
02:48:50,380 --> 02:48:54,240
Did anybody catch the field house is gonna be hit

1827
02:48:54,240 --> 02:49:01,100
underneath the new media tower that they proposed and we're talking to sports

1828
02:49:02,580 --> 02:49:06,860
complexes within spitting or throwing distance of each other on the same high

1829
02:49:06,860 --> 02:49:13,880
school. If the fieldhouse cost half what the gym does that means half of that

1830
02:49:13,880 --> 02:49:18,860
capital funding we just gave them went to those two items sports items on one

1831
02:49:18,860 --> 02:49:19,280
school.

1832
02:49:21,930 --> 02:49:28,190
Where's this 550 gonna go? I got to dig in and I asked and no one

1833
02:49:28,190 --> 02:49:35,650
will tell me, I'm puzzled here, how did they get to $2 million a year? They knew they need

1834
02:49:35,650 --> 02:49:40,470
that much money. But nobody will tell me how much the field house is going to cost.

1835
02:49:42,960 --> 02:49:43,320
And

1836
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:51,120
when you ask to get mad, some of them get mad. Before they get another dime, I want

1837
02:49:51,120 --> 02:49:55,100
to know how much that field house is going to cost. There ain't no way you can tell

1838
02:49:55,100 --> 02:50:00,800
me that you can propose a six to six and a half million dollar gym know what

1839
02:50:00,800 --> 02:50:06,280
that's gonna cost got all your plans for electrical and you know sidewalks and

1840
02:50:06,280 --> 02:50:09,240
all these improvements around all these other schools you know how much that's

1841
02:50:09,240 --> 02:50:19,860
gonna cost but no one when it was said a media tower no one has told me yet how

1842
02:50:19,860 --> 02:50:24,080
they came up with a figure when they proposed their budget to how much

1843
02:50:24,080 --> 02:50:33,640
they're going to spend on a field house. I asked my Dave Shiffley and asked Dr. Bond.

1844
02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:39,780
Dave's answer me was, oh, it don't work that way, Mr. Saban. We don't get that call. It

1845
02:50:39,780 --> 02:50:44,820
don't work like that. It will work like that when you need the price for the gymnasium.

1846
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:52,340
Work like that when you need school buses. Simple question. Why didn't you tell us

1847
02:50:52,340 --> 02:50:57,820
It was a field house proposal and what's that going to cost?

1848
02:50:58,660 --> 02:50:59,840
That's all I need to ask.

1849
02:51:00,760 --> 02:51:06,680
But before they get another dime on that, I think we, I, would like to have those answers.

1850
02:51:08,900 --> 02:51:13,760
And by the way, everybody, we sitting here talking about this comprehensive plan.

1851
02:51:17,240 --> 02:51:19,760
How come a penny of that money didn't go to Votech?

1852
02:51:21,840 --> 02:51:31,120
It's earmarked for another sports facility and to fund whatever they're going to do in

1853
02:51:31,120 --> 02:51:32,180
their budget increase.

1854
02:51:32,620 --> 02:51:38,740
We see at least half of that over the next ten years may be thrown at two of those sports

1855
02:51:38,740 --> 02:51:39,260
facilities.

1856
02:51:39,880 --> 02:51:45,140
We all talk really high on we're going to help the VOTEC kids and that should be an emphasis

1857
02:51:45,140 --> 02:51:46,260
even our comp plan.

1858
02:51:46,500 --> 02:51:47,760
Talked about it the other night.

1859
02:51:48,940 --> 02:51:51,680
Why didn't that 5.5-year mark for vote take spin?

1860
02:51:55,700 --> 02:51:57,900
I want to know how much that fieldhouse is going to cost.

1861
02:51:58,520 --> 02:51:59,880
I think we should know it.

1862
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:03,580
We should have known it before we approved it, but it got by us.

1863
02:52:04,620 --> 02:52:06,920
Because nobody said they were going to build a fieldhouse,

1864
02:52:09,240 --> 02:52:11,500
or at least that's what they didn't propose with the budget.

1865
02:52:12,320 --> 02:52:14,540
I only found out when I asked about the tower,

1866
02:52:14,620 --> 02:52:16,600
and they said, oh, it's the new tower is supposed to sit

1867
02:52:16,600 --> 02:52:17,680
on top of the fieldhouse.

1868
02:52:19,860 --> 02:52:20,340
Yes, ma'am?

1869
02:52:20,680 --> 02:52:21,340
I can see it.

1870
02:52:21,540 --> 02:52:22,040
You got something?

1871
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:28,260
I was just going to say mention the Career Technical Center also because that has been

1872
02:52:28,260 --> 02:52:30,060
an emphasis and a concern.

1873
02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:37,580
We talk about the importance of providing our youth, our students with the ability to have

1874
02:52:37,580 --> 02:52:42,540
jobs and to stay locally but they're not investing the money in it and that really

1875
02:52:42,540 --> 02:52:43,520
concerns me.

1876
02:52:44,940 --> 02:52:51,420
Sports are good, education is great and so I'm concerned about that.

1877
02:52:51,420 --> 02:52:58,480
that, I can't get excited about this other spending. I just can't. So I'm just saying

1878
02:52:58,480 --> 02:53:04,760
that I'm really disappointed that the Career Technical Center is not getting attention.

1879
02:53:05,340 --> 02:53:11,280
And I think in their plan, it's way down the road and I just think that's not what

1880
02:53:11,280 --> 02:53:18,560
is the best interest of the students in Augusta. And I'm not a school board member. Obviously

1881
02:53:18,560 --> 02:53:25,880
I'm not a school board member, but if we're giving money to the schools to improve what

1882
02:53:25,880 --> 02:53:29,420
they have, I think they're missing the boat with that one.

1883
02:53:34,620 --> 02:53:37,340
I'll see if I can get you some answers before Wednesday night.

1884
02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:40,180
That money goes back to them.

1885
02:53:40,300 --> 02:53:42,320
How come it doesn't come back and go in our capital account?

1886
02:53:44,440 --> 02:53:50,040
That's the request they're making is that they keep that fund balance in their capital

1887
02:53:50,040 --> 02:53:50,460
account.

1888
02:53:50,460 --> 02:53:56,080
And traditionally we have done that for them there's an awful lot of good

1889
02:53:56,080 --> 02:54:00,460
projects ever one of us in here's got good projects that we're leaving lay on

1890
02:54:00,460 --> 02:54:04,260
the table to right there some money for in

1891
02:54:06,980 --> 02:54:09,280
the past one time in the past didn't

1892
02:54:09,280 --> 02:54:17,560
we take the fund balance and direct it to buses is that correct we did do that

1893
02:54:17,560 --> 02:54:25,580
one time where we the board specified that that amount of money would go toward

1894
02:54:25,580 --> 02:54:31,610
school bus purchases and that wasn't their request that we have done

1895
02:54:31,610 --> 02:54:40,810
different things just to clarify so the the 550 that they want placed they say

1896
02:54:40,810 --> 02:54:45,930
school debt service CIP that money is actually how we typically handled it so

1897
02:54:45,930 --> 02:54:54,190
So what that does is I address that and revise that money goes into a county capital line

1898
02:54:54,190 --> 02:54:56,630
item that is designated for the county schools.

1899
02:54:57,150 --> 02:55:03,470
And that is where we pull money if they fall short of their ceiling for debt service.

1900
02:55:04,990 --> 02:55:07,870
So you know that's that's how we typically handle it.

1901
02:55:07,970 --> 02:55:12,210
So the the 550 they would not be keeping in their account.

1902
02:55:12,210 --> 02:55:19,370
It's part of our fund balance and I actually allocate it to their line item and you know when their debt service

1903
02:55:19,370 --> 02:55:23,410
Their total debt service for the year is over the

1904
02:55:23,410 --> 02:55:27,770
Which now it's gonna be a nine point two. Yeah, it's nine point two million dollars now

1905
02:55:27,770 --> 02:55:35,390
If their debt services over that that's where I pull the extra money from and so it's kind of like a savings account for their

1906
02:55:35,390 --> 02:55:36,110
debt service

1907
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:38,710
And we have pulled from that

1908
02:55:40,570 --> 02:55:45,150
And traditionally we do $500,000, typically it's $500,000.

1909
02:55:45,370 --> 02:55:50,470
Or this last year we did their entire fund balance amount, we put it in that account.

1910
02:55:51,190 --> 02:55:57,070
And then because if you remember during the budget, they need it in order to move their

1911
02:55:57,070 --> 02:56:04,690
10-year capital plan forward, they need to be able to borrow money for future projects.

1912
02:56:04,690 --> 02:56:12,010
So for like the valley career and technical if they decide they need to borrow money for that project and they have to take one more debt service

1913
02:56:13,090 --> 02:56:17,170
If they have a shortfall in that nine point two million dollars that we allocate each year

1914
02:56:17,170 --> 02:56:22,370
That's where I pull the extra money from so it's kind of a savings account for them that you know

1915
02:56:22,370 --> 02:56:27,530
They use in years where they have a shortfall. So are there funds in it now? There are funds in it now

1916
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:28,790
Well park

1917
02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:38,460
I'm sorry I can get you that number but we are pulling from it because right now

1918
02:56:38,460 --> 02:56:45,240
their debt service is over the nine point two million dollars and Mark when

1919
02:56:45,240 --> 02:56:52,020
he was here he would update this cash flow analysis to show he would kind of

1920
02:56:52,020 --> 02:56:55,800
show where they're at and you know how much they have to pull from that a

1921
02:56:55,800 --> 02:57:01,780
year and I think the the 550 is about what they estimate so if they aren't

1922
02:57:01,780 --> 02:57:05,740
making their debt service my next question is should they be adding more

1923
02:57:05,740 --> 02:57:10,820
or paying on their debt service well so this allows them to that's why we

1924
02:57:10,820 --> 02:57:14,720
did the additional two million dollars because it gives them a little bit of

1925
02:57:14,720 --> 02:57:20,020
breathing room because they will have some debt that will come off I think

1926
02:57:20,020 --> 02:57:23,840
they've got one next year coming off it's a small one because it's you know

1927
02:57:23,840 --> 02:57:30,700
it was 20, 25, 30 years ago way before my time but they do have a cash flow

1928
02:57:30,700 --> 02:57:37,900
analysis for their 10-year CIP plan. So they do analyze that when they're looking at projects

1929
02:57:37,900 --> 02:57:46,440
to do that are on their 10-year CIP. So just to clarify, now the 274-749 would go into

1930
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:51,660
their school capital account that they have control over, if that makes sense.

1931
02:57:52,220 --> 02:57:52,740
Well,

1932
02:57:59,280 --> 02:58:03,340
I want to take it one step further. You didn't see my face because I was looking

1933
02:58:03,340 --> 02:58:09,440
at Mr. Slavin, but to have a chairman of the school board not be able to tell you or

1934
02:58:10,340 --> 02:58:16,420
provide you with the cost and to say that we don't do it that way, that's concerning.

1935
02:58:16,780 --> 02:58:20,420
Well, at the risk of getting a bad phone call from Dave by the time I get home this evening,

1936
02:58:21,940 --> 02:58:23,700
if it was in a, okay, I will.

1937
02:58:25,420 --> 02:58:27,280
I had talked to Dr. Bond first.

1938
02:58:28,220 --> 02:58:29,920
This has got none to do with Dr. Bond.

1939
02:58:30,160 --> 02:58:31,120
He didn't do anything wrong.

1940
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:35,660
I started questioning the media tower and if y'all remember it was written on

1941
02:58:35,660 --> 02:58:41,280
there were media tower now unless you all saw something I didn't that's all it

1942
02:58:41,280 --> 02:58:48,600
said and I'm thinking the media tower down there is any four knots but it's

1943
02:58:48,600 --> 02:58:53,920
about one stop from why do you need a new media tower so when I question him I

1944
02:58:53,920 --> 02:58:58,400
would be honest he was very transparent he said because it's supposed to sit

1945
02:58:58,400 --> 02:58:59,740
on top of the new field house.

1946
02:59:01,930 --> 02:59:04,030
Nobody talked about the field house that our

1947
02:59:04,030 --> 02:59:11,830
budget meeting did they? Did that even come up? No, never come up. No, and I guess

1948
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:18,030
the media tower sounded small so nobody really questioned it. So I started

1949
02:59:18,030 --> 02:59:22,830
checking while I could check with Dave in all honesty. Checked my board, school

1950
02:59:22,830 --> 02:59:27,590
board reps, you know, none about nothing. So you wouldn't get any

1951
02:59:27,590 --> 02:59:32,830
information errors I called Dave and he was well they need is he talked about

1952
02:59:32,830 --> 02:59:36,670
with other schools have them well there's some other schools that's got

1953
02:59:36,670 --> 02:59:42,790
filled houses but it's my understanding that the community they've raised money

1954
02:59:42,790 --> 02:59:49,290
from the community and paid for or at least nearly all of them they can just

1955
02:59:49,290 --> 02:59:56,210
build one out of their 10-year capital service so I don't know if that's

1956
02:59:56,210 --> 02:59:59,930
That's why he couldn't give me a figure as he thought that there would be private money.

1957
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,880
Any comment? But still, that shouldn't change the cost up. No matter where he gets the money.

1958
03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:10,400
All I know is that's what he told me. And if we go back and we look at those papers,

1959
03:00:10,760 --> 03:00:15,960
if anybody's got them, or Timmy, maybe you can pull them up somewhere, I don't think

1960
03:00:15,960 --> 03:00:22,320
there is a figure written down. Because if you remember when we were talking, I asked

1961
03:00:23,380 --> 03:00:29,460
Dr. Bond and the reps there that day, the new gym, I've heard you are thinking around

1962
03:00:29,460 --> 03:00:35,880
six or six and a half million for that. And they said, is that right? That's about right.

1963
03:00:36,100 --> 03:00:42,300
So figured, so I got a kind of a bar park cost for that. Nobody will tell me what this

1964
03:00:42,300 --> 03:00:43,200
other project's for.

1965
03:00:45,280 --> 03:00:50,320
Yeah, what the cost is. And it bothers me a little bit. And at the

1966
03:00:50,320 --> 03:00:55,880
same time, the reason I went digging, because I think they shortchanged VOTEC. Look,

1967
03:00:55,880 --> 03:00:57,660
Look, I know we've got problems over there,

1968
03:00:58,400 --> 03:01:01,300
as far as being in a partnership and all like that.

1969
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:03,120
I know there's some of that needs to be ironed out.

1970
03:01:03,240 --> 03:01:05,820
We're kind of handcuffed, or they are kind of handcuffed

1971
03:01:05,820 --> 03:01:06,360
a little bit.

1972
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:11,600
But we didn't see for the cost of $20 million.

1973
03:01:13,580 --> 03:01:17,180
We saw a fraction of a fraction go

1974
03:01:17,180 --> 03:01:18,340
to vocational education.

1975
03:01:20,040 --> 03:01:22,000
Now, here's almost just a little bit

1976
03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:24,340
south of another million dollars.

1977
03:01:24,340 --> 03:01:32,070
I didn't even hear the word vocational education used trying to proportion this out

1978
03:01:32,730 --> 03:01:34,050
Not one penny up.

1979
03:01:37,070 --> 03:01:38,470
When do they get their term?

1980
03:01:42,530 --> 03:01:45,050
All I hear is this plant ball field

1981
03:01:45,770 --> 03:01:48,210
That stadium this gymnasium

1982
03:01:49,370 --> 03:01:51,050
That field house

1983
03:01:56,710 --> 03:02:03,230
So what's stopping us from doing the same thing that we did about the school buses and

1984
03:02:04,090 --> 03:02:07,170
and airmarking that money towards VOTEC.

1985
03:02:12,250 --> 03:02:13,090
That was a question.

1986
03:02:13,270 --> 03:02:15,350
I don't think anything stops you from doing that.

1987
03:02:16,490 --> 03:02:22,570
I would suggest that we have Dr. Bond

1988
03:02:22,570 --> 03:02:25,170
and his school leadership an opportunity

1989
03:02:25,170 --> 03:02:29,130
to have conversation with you all before we did that.

1990
03:02:29,310 --> 03:02:31,990
I would think that would be a thing to do.

1991
03:02:32,590 --> 03:02:36,390
I can ask if they could come on Wednesday night

1992
03:02:36,390 --> 03:02:40,590
if you'd like for them to be your wins and I'll see if I can find I have the

1993
03:02:40,590 --> 03:02:43,610
capital program looking forward here but I'm not getting my hands on it quickly

1994
03:02:43,610 --> 03:02:49,870
but I can resend that out to you and I can see if I can get some information on

1995
03:02:49,870 --> 03:02:57,550
the cost on the field house and if it I think you're right I'm not sure a field

1996
03:02:57,550 --> 03:03:02,730
house is listed in the ten-year plan and so the question is if it's not

1997
03:03:02,730 --> 03:03:08,370
into 10-year plan then to me it's not really a project it's not gonna not

1998
03:03:08,370 --> 03:03:15,510
gonna happen yeah but the media tower is a question and so I can get those

1999
03:03:15,510 --> 03:03:20,970
answers for you but certainly this board has the ability to do with that as you'd

2000
03:03:20,970 --> 03:03:26,990
like so well I'm not saying do it immediately but I mean I think it

2001
03:03:26,990 --> 03:03:33,390
warrants a good conversation and a good convincing to me how we shouldn't do

2002
03:03:33,390 --> 03:03:33,630
that.

2003
03:03:35,660 --> 03:03:41,320
Hear your case. And I don't think that we'll be, I don't think we would be

2004
03:03:41,320 --> 03:03:47,840
prepared by Wednesday, would we? I wouldn't think so. Well, would they be

2005
03:03:47,840 --> 03:03:53,140
prepared by Wednesday? That's the question. Oh, I think they could, I think

2006
03:03:53,140 --> 03:03:55,420
they could, if I asked them to come Wednesday, I think they would probably

2007
03:03:55,420 --> 03:03:58,000
come and answer questions for you.

2008
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:02,660
I don't know, I have to check with Dr.

2009
03:04:02,660 --> 03:04:08,820
on the timing of when they need to know something on this softball field project

2010
03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:13,900
as to when they're going to move forward. I'm not sure the timing of the construction on that.

2011
03:04:15,440 --> 03:04:18,700
Well, I suspect they have to wait till they have money.

2012
03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:20,000
Well, they do.

2013
03:04:21,940 --> 03:04:24,440
So I'm thinking that's kind of the timing.

2014
03:04:25,860 --> 03:04:30,620
But I'm certain to get them here. I can try to get them here Wednesday night.

2015
03:04:31,840 --> 03:04:33,940
I can let them know ahead of time what the questions are

2016
03:04:33,940 --> 03:04:39,040
so they can be prepared if that's what the board would like.

2017
03:04:40,320 --> 03:04:43,160
And are you going to, we have a 10-year plan?

2018
03:04:43,640 --> 03:04:44,660
We have a 10-year plan.

2019
03:04:45,140 --> 03:04:46,000
I got to find it.

2020
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:46,740
I've got it.

2021
03:04:47,120 --> 03:04:51,760
It was sent out, did last year, and we can,

2022
03:04:51,900 --> 03:04:53,520
I'll send it out again.

2023
03:04:54,320 --> 03:04:54,680
OK.

2024
03:05:08,100 --> 03:05:14,600
Okay, Ms. Cook noted this earlier but usually the fund balance just rolls into the county

2025
03:05:14,600 --> 03:05:22,060
school capital account so if there is an issue with timing it can do that and then once the

2026
03:05:22,060 --> 03:05:27,800
board considers the softball field transfer it could be it just depends on

2027
03:05:27,800 --> 03:05:33,320
you know how soon we will find out I ask the question on how quick they need the

2028
03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:38,360
answer if they've got some time and we feel like it would be facilitated better

2029
03:05:38,360 --> 03:05:40,560
at a work session and we can have my work session

2030
03:05:42,960 --> 03:05:44,980
and in this quarter I can

2031
03:05:44,980 --> 03:05:49,060
assure you that he didn't necessarily take that response laying down and he

2032
03:05:49,060 --> 03:05:53,000
probably doesn't want to quote himself here at this meeting today so it was

2033
03:05:53,000 --> 03:05:53,820
not well received.

2034
03:05:56,400 --> 03:05:59,520
His response when he asked a question is pretty much told was

2035
03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:06,360
not of his business. They didn't take that well, but that's right.

2036
03:06:08,700 --> 03:06:09,540
So we'll do that on

2037
03:06:09,540 --> 03:06:12,620
schools. One thing that we'll be on your agenda. We know for Wednesday is the

2038
03:06:12,620 --> 03:06:15,660
infrastructure and deletes. So we'll put that on for Wednesday.

2039
03:06:21,380 --> 03:06:21,620
The

2040
03:06:21,620 --> 03:06:23,360
infrastructure adds and deletes.

2041
03:06:31,010 --> 03:06:33,510
Have we got an updated plan on the

2042
03:06:33,510 --> 03:06:41,580
the technical center yet I do not have anything I don't have anything school

2043
03:06:41,580 --> 03:06:47,060
board yet are they working on it my understanding is they working on it but

2044
03:06:47,060 --> 03:06:52,360
I don't have anything from them well I

2045
03:06:55,020 --> 03:06:57,620
think they probably need to get that put

2046
03:06:57,620 --> 03:07:02,520
in place and then kind of see where that goes along with the 10-year plan

2047
03:07:05,060 --> 03:07:13,120
And you combine both the 10-year plan and the technical school, is it going to be enough

2048
03:07:13,120 --> 03:07:15,300
in debt service to cover all of that?

2049
03:07:15,720 --> 03:07:23,200
So I think before they move forward with anything on the 10-year plan, you kind of

2050
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:29,420
sort of need to see what the tech plan is and go from there on where you at.

2051
03:07:55,350 --> 03:07:55,950
So

2052
03:07:58,930 --> 03:08:04,810
now the role in good humor and go ahead take your chance good afternoon

2053
03:08:04,810 --> 03:08:10,810
chairman members of the board will have one public hearing on Wednesday this is

2054
03:08:10,810 --> 03:08:15,850
a rezoning request from cross go company and the request is to rezone from

2055
03:08:15,850 --> 03:08:22,170
from general industrial with proffers to general agriculture with proffers, approximately 1.476

2056
03:08:22,170 --> 03:08:30,450
acres out of a 102.84 acre parcel, owned by Crossco Company in Mount Sydney in the North

2057
03:08:30,450 --> 03:08:34,430
River Magisterial District, and it's located right off of Kieseltown Road.

2058
03:08:36,400 --> 03:08:40,130
On your screens are the current proffers and the proposed proffers.

2059
03:08:41,250 --> 03:08:48,350
All of this really depicts is that no ingress or egress will take place off of the property

2060
03:08:48,350 --> 03:08:54,610
that's outlined in that blue outline and that any ingress and egress will happen at that

2061
03:08:54,610 --> 03:08:57,710
existing commercial entrance that's located on Kieseltown.

2062
03:09:00,190 --> 03:09:02,330
And here is an aerial map of the property.

2063
03:09:03,410 --> 03:09:09,950
Kind of further shows that ingress egress point along with a zoning map of the property

2064
03:09:09,950 --> 03:09:16,990
showing the portion that's currently zoned industrial, a future land use map

2065
03:09:16,990 --> 03:09:22,190
of the property, which shows that it's planned for industrial, and lastly a

2066
03:09:22,190 --> 03:09:25,670
planning policy area map showing that the parcel is located within an urban

2067
03:09:25,670 --> 03:09:30,890
service area. And the Planning Commission has recommended approval of the

2068
03:09:30,890 --> 03:09:33,910
rezoning and I'm happy to answer any questions the board has.

2069
03:09:39,440 --> 03:09:40,360
I'm just

2070
03:09:40,360 --> 03:09:45,400
Just curious why, because it looks like they use it for storage and it's still used for

2071
03:09:45,400 --> 03:09:46,020
their business.

2072
03:09:46,200 --> 03:09:50,720
So it's funny because the applicant, as they were going through this process, they would

2073
03:09:50,720 --> 03:09:55,140
like to construct a building that would basically be utilized to store hay.

2074
03:09:55,800 --> 03:09:58,960
Right now, and I can kind of, if we can pull those slides back up.

2075
03:10:01,720 --> 03:10:06,060
So those current, those tractor trailers that are existing on that lot, those are

2076
03:10:06,060 --> 03:10:07,580
hay storage right now.

2077
03:10:07,580 --> 03:10:14,400
And because it's in general industrial and it's, you know, it's technically storing hay

2078
03:10:14,400 --> 03:10:17,200
per the ordinance that should be screened.

2079
03:10:17,220 --> 03:10:22,200
And so the applicant was like, ooh, didn't realize that it needed to be screened.

2080
03:10:22,480 --> 03:10:29,300
But being zoned general agriculture, they're already basically just utilizing the piece of property

2081
03:10:29,300 --> 03:10:36,480
for that purpose anyways, for the storage of the hay that is collected on the adjacent piece of property

2082
03:10:36,480 --> 03:10:37,840
or technically the same parcel.

2083
03:10:39,940 --> 03:10:45,220
And I'm not sure about building prices and building codes.

2084
03:10:45,440 --> 03:10:51,140
That's not my wheelhouse, but it's my understanding that it would be more economical for them

2085
03:10:51,140 --> 03:10:55,720
to construct a building if it was zoned agriculture than if it's zoned industrial.

2086
03:10:57,020 --> 03:10:57,400
Okay.

2087
03:10:57,800 --> 03:10:59,520
Well, that makes more sense because I'm looking at that.

2088
03:10:59,620 --> 03:11:03,000
It's just like, are they going to continue to use that for their trucking business?

2089
03:11:03,080 --> 03:11:03,240
Yeah.

2090
03:11:03,240 --> 03:11:09,500
No, currently it's just hay and they just are utilizing those very attractive storage trailers

2091
03:11:09,500 --> 03:11:13,980
And it's funny because if you drive by each one of them has spray painted on it storage

2092
03:11:16,440 --> 03:11:17,960
Just so that we know

2093
03:11:20,880 --> 03:11:21,400
Yeah,

2094
03:11:28,280 --> 03:11:30,440
are we good? All right. Thank you

2095
03:11:42,260 --> 03:11:42,780
Yes

2096
03:11:42,780 --> 03:11:49,620
Yeah so RFP has been put out for legislative services contract because

2097
03:11:49,620 --> 03:11:55,820
our contract with Eldon James is up this fiscal year and so we've received two

2098
03:11:55,820 --> 03:12:01,180
proposals so I will need two people to serve on the committee from at the board

2099
03:12:01,180 --> 03:12:05,620
level to do interviews with those to review those proposals and or do

2100
03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:08,840
interviews with the candidates.

2101
03:12:12,930 --> 03:12:15,970
All right, she called me a week or so ago. However long

2102
03:12:15,970 --> 03:12:20,350
it took for me to forget, if you remind me today, I've asked Carolyn to butch to do

2103
03:12:20,350 --> 03:12:24,390
that. Carolyn, because she's enthused in butch because he needs something to do.

2104
03:12:28,600 --> 03:12:34,060
I'll reach out. Very good. So, thank you. I believe that's all we have from Staya.

2105
03:12:34,060 --> 03:12:34,160
Yeah.

2106
03:12:35,140 --> 03:12:36,320
Oh, you got food stand.

2107
03:12:37,440 --> 03:12:37,960
All right,

2108
03:12:40,630 --> 03:12:41,130
let's show.

2109
03:12:43,270 --> 03:12:46,890
How is the radio system going?

2110
03:12:50,860 --> 03:12:54,900
So they have been out in the field doing coverage testing.

2111
03:12:55,520 --> 03:12:58,660
And at this point in time, they've kind of stepped back

2112
03:12:58,660 --> 03:13:02,180
to look at all of their results to calculate that.

2113
03:13:02,400 --> 03:13:04,200
So that's where we're at right now.

2114
03:13:05,320 --> 03:13:07,140
Basically, we don't know nothing yet.

2115
03:13:07,400 --> 03:13:09,760
We don't have any final results from that yet.

2116
03:13:09,760 --> 03:13:18,280
All right any indication that it's going well or anything or terrible or I had

2117
03:13:18,280 --> 03:13:24,500
been down there very preliminary in the process so I really don't have any

2118
03:13:24,500 --> 03:13:29,360
idea what the results were overall because the calculations like everything

2119
03:13:29,360 --> 03:13:35,620
together the whole county the whole city so I

2120
03:13:40,580 --> 03:13:41,580
just have a quick question

2121
03:13:41,580 --> 03:13:47,980
ECC we had the contractual employees have they hired trained where are they

2122
03:13:48,660 --> 03:13:53,380
We've had to work in for quite some time now, and the third one will be coming on

2123
03:13:54,100 --> 03:13:56,800
So we still have we have two of our people

2124
03:13:57,540 --> 03:14:05,240
Two contract people, but are they finding employees to replace them because I thought that was just temporary not a permanent

2125
03:14:05,750 --> 03:14:06,820
they have

2126
03:14:06,820 --> 03:14:13,400
brought somebody else's comeback that had previously worked here so they didn't

2127
03:14:13,400 --> 03:14:20,620
require any training and then they've got some interest from another dispatch

2128
03:14:20,620 --> 03:14:28,540
center so they're they're getting some interest in it but the contractors have

2129
03:14:28,540 --> 03:14:30,140
not been replaced yet.

2130
03:14:33,090 --> 03:14:37,090
The goal will be to replace the contractors

2131
03:14:37,090 --> 03:14:42,290
with trained people, but they're down there working full-time right now until we

2132
03:14:42,290 --> 03:14:48,310
get some applicants in and we, you know, put them through the plan I think was to

2133
03:14:48,310 --> 03:14:52,090
get some folks hired, put them through a training so that they could go to the

2134
03:14:52,090 --> 03:14:58,830
Academy in January. The new Academy starts in January, so we'll have some

2135
03:14:58,830 --> 03:14:59,970
folks that will...

2136
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,940
be the plan to get some folks in. We did hire, like she said, a dispatcher who had left

2137
03:15:04,940 --> 03:15:09,280
and he came back. He's already fully trained, so we put him back on a shift, which is a good

2138
03:15:09,280 --> 03:15:15,180
thing. But yes, we're consistently looking to try to get applicants in and get them trained

2139
03:15:15,180 --> 03:15:21,480
so that we can, at some point, let those contractors go. But currently, we have two full time

2140
03:15:22,020 --> 03:15:26,900
with the contractor and one more is on the way, so to fill those slots.

2141
03:15:28,360 --> 03:15:31,080
one more contract one more contractor yes

2142
03:15:34,120 --> 03:15:36,520
so well three contractors but you

2143
03:15:36,520 --> 03:15:42,420
hired somebody so we only need to know we'll still need the three with the

2144
03:15:42,420 --> 03:15:47,280
vacancies that we have down there so we have another vacancy we have multiple

2145
03:15:47,280 --> 03:15:52,700
vacancies no but a new vacancy I don't know when the last time we gave you the

2146
03:15:52,700 --> 03:15:58,060
vacancies but when we voted to have contract people to fill well it's we

2147
03:15:58,060 --> 03:16:01,380
Yeah, we, we've lost some, we've lost somebody since then, yes.

2148
03:16:01,540 --> 03:16:01,740
Okay.

2149
03:16:02,020 --> 03:16:03,880
And then they have to go through the training academy?

2150
03:16:04,420 --> 03:16:06,020
The contractors do not, no.

2151
03:16:06,060 --> 03:16:06,660
No, our people.

2152
03:16:07,000 --> 03:16:07,900
They get a thumbs up higher.

2153
03:16:08,780 --> 03:16:11,400
Our people go through the training academy, the ECC, yeah.

2154
03:16:11,720 --> 03:16:18,100
They, they, uh, at the, uh, Central Chandler, um, the police academy in Weir's Cave,

2155
03:16:18,720 --> 03:16:23,000
they do the sheriff's deputies, and they do our ECC folks there, yes.

2156
03:16:32,960 --> 03:16:34,580
Okay, I do have something.

2157
03:16:35,320 --> 03:16:35,840
I have goodness.

2158
03:16:35,840 --> 03:16:38,920
And I was kind of whining about our airport situation.

2159
03:16:39,740 --> 03:16:42,280
Last Friday afternoon, they did make a decision.

2160
03:16:42,520 --> 03:16:44,720
They haven't made it public, but they gave us what we wanted.

2161
03:16:46,340 --> 03:16:49,640
It's probably going to, they're going to mess the schedule up.

2162
03:16:49,700 --> 03:16:51,720
We'll probably have to have the incumbent carrier there

2163
03:16:51,720 --> 03:16:55,740
a little longer, which is not good,

2164
03:16:55,860 --> 03:16:57,160
but we're going to the right place.

2165
03:16:57,280 --> 03:16:59,500
We'll wind up with the plane probably twice as big

2166
03:16:59,500 --> 03:17:02,280
as we have now, and we'll go to twice as many destinations.

2167
03:17:05,900 --> 03:17:09,520
Who knows the announce everything on Friday afternoon as if they're hoping

2168
03:17:09,520 --> 03:17:12,800
nobody's paying attention I really don't know but I'm hoping this week they'll

2169
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:19,080
go and make it public but we have it in writing so we it's it's everything we'd

2170
03:17:19,080 --> 03:17:23,420
actually hope for so anyway if I'd be good okay

2171
03:17:25,020 --> 03:17:32,820
anybody else you're also well-behaved a Douglas he's well-behaved we do have a

2172
03:17:32,820 --> 03:17:38,180
closed session that I've given Mr. Bragg since Mr. Wills is not here okay so I

2173
03:17:38,180 --> 03:17:41,140
move that the Board of Supervisors of Augusta County convene in closed

2174
03:17:41,140 --> 03:17:46,920
session pursuant to one the real property exemption under Virginia code 2.2

2175
03:17:46,920 --> 03:17:52,520
dash 3711 a3 which is discussion or consideration of the acquisition of

2176
03:17:52,520 --> 03:17:57,840
real property for a public purpose or for the disposition of publicly held real estate

2177
03:17:57,840 --> 03:18:04,440
property, where discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position

2178
03:18:04,440 --> 03:18:07,520
or negotiating strategy of the public body.

2179
03:18:07,860 --> 03:18:12,520
So A, the Augusta County Courthouse at 6 East Johnson Street, Stanton.

2180
03:18:13,400 --> 03:18:21,600
And then number two, the economic development exemption under Virginia Code 2.2-3711A5,

2181
03:18:21,600 --> 03:18:26,500
which is a discussion concerning a prospective business or industry or the

2182
03:18:26,500 --> 03:18:31,040
expansion of an existing business or industry where no previous announcement

2183
03:18:31,040 --> 03:18:36,080
has been made of its interest in locating or expanding this facility in the

2184
03:18:36,080 --> 03:18:42,100
county. A proposed office space, flex space, storage facilities, manufacturing

2185
03:18:42,100 --> 03:18:51,200
facilities, utility, and mixed-use development. Mr. Chair, as I told

2186
03:18:51,200 --> 03:18:57,340
earlier, I've got a commitment at five o'clock and I don't feel like I should go

2187
03:18:57,340 --> 03:19:00,200
back in closed session and turn around and leave without going through the

2188
03:19:00,200 --> 03:19:03,980
proper things I would like to be excused from going back there and then

2189
03:19:03,980 --> 03:19:07,520
having to interrupt it by walking out so I don't think I should go into closed

2190
03:19:07,520 --> 03:19:09,140
session if I can't stay in closed session.

2191
03:19:13,380 --> 03:19:13,800
Is that okay?

2192
03:19:16,100 --> 03:19:16,320
Okay.

2193
03:20:00,390 --> 03:20:01,290
Yeah we're back.

2194
03:20:07,090 --> 03:20:10,530
All certified and we're out of close.

2195
03:20:11,030 --> 03:20:11,430
We're out.

2196
03:20:12,350 --> 03:20:13,330
See you Wednesday.