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The regular meeting of the
Aurora City Council for Monday,

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August 10th, 2026 is called to
order with a clear please call

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the roll.

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Mayor Kaufman.

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Here.

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Council member.

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Andrews.

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Council member.

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Bergin.

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Council member.

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Combs.

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Council member.

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Gardiner.

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Here.

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Council member.

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Hancock. Here.

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Council member.

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Horton. Here.

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Council member.

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Jackson. Council member.

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Lawson. Here.

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Council member.

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Medina. Here.

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Council member.

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Wallace. Council member.

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Wiles.

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Here. There's a quorum.

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Council member
Jackson is excused.

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Please join me in an invocation.

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Uh, our Lord, our
God and our father.

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We come to you and we ask that
you look upon this particular

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gathering tonight to keep us

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safe and guide us
in our decisions.

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Bless our city with honorable
citizens, industry, sound

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education and good government.

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Unite our community together.

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Even though we come from
different backgrounds.

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We pray that there will be
justice and peace in our city.

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Give the City Council and
citizens the wisdom, direction

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and sensitivity to the business

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and proceedings
before us tonight.

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Hear us, therefore, as we
commit this meeting to the help

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of our entire community.

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Amen. Land acknowledgement.

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I'm sorry.

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Um. Please join me in
the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic
for which it stands.

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One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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A land acknowledgement.

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The city of Aurora acknowledges
that we gather on the

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territories and ancestral
homelands of the Cheyenne and

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Arapaho and Lakota
peoples, past and present.

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We also recognize the 48
contemporary tribal nations

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that are historically tied
to the lands that make up the

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state of Colorado indigenous
peoples, and remain committed

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to the stewardship of this land
over many centuries, as these

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words of acknowledgement
are spoken and heard.

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The ties that these nations
have to their traditional

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homelands and to their vital
place in the ecosystem are

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renewed and reaffirmed, and we
are called upon to be better

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stewards of the land we inhabit
as we continue to work to meet

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the needs of our
entire community.

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Our motion is in order for
approval of the minutes for

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July 27th, 2026.

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So moved.

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Moved by Councilmember Hancock.

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Second by

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second by Councilmember Lawson
to approve the minutes for July

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27th seventh, 2026 discussion
and seeing no discussion.

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Call for the question on
approval of the minutes for

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July 27th, 2026.

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Mayor Kaufman.

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Votes yes.

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What did you say?

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Mayor Pro Tem.

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13 a but let's see who's
going to make the motion.

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Council member.

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Horton.

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Yes. Council member.

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Hancock. Yes.

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The motion passes unanimously
to adopt the July 27th, 2026

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meeting minutes.

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Adoption of the agenda.

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Motion is in order.

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Mayor.

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Mayor Pro tem.

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So moved.

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Councilmember Wiles
or Mayor pro tem?

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Was there something that was

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going to be removed
from the agenda?

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So we have a motion
to approve the agenda.

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Is there a

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second Councilmember?

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Mayor. I'll or sorry,
City attorney Schultz.

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I'll make that as a
friendly amendment.

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Um, so that would be sorry.

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Scroll down.

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So, yeah.

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Um, move to approve the
agenda with item 13 A removed.

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Is there a second?

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Okay. Um, second.

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Move by Mayor Pro tem, seconded
by Councilmember Wiles to, um.

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Is it?

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Item is that.

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I approve the agenda
of removing item 13.

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A.

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Uh, approval of the agenda.

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Uh, minus item 13.

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Aye. Item number 13.

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A of discussion.

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Uh, I'm sorry, Mayor pro Tem.

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So just to clarify, the removal
of 13 a, um, I have some

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amendments to the resolution

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regarding the data
center moratorium.

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Um, that will would require
significant modifications to

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the ordinance.

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So we're removing the ordinance
and, um, going to vote on the

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resolution, as amended.

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Very well.

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Further discussion.

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Seeing none, call for the
question on the adoption of the

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agenda, as amended.

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Mayor Kaufman.

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Yes.

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The motion passes unanimously
to adopt the agenda with item

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13 A removed.

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All right.

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Thank you, Mayor Pete Schultz
and the city attorney.

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A couple of things.

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The council has asked me, is
the parliamentarian for City

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council to read the
the decorum statement?

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I know we don't like calling
it that, but the public comment

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announcement, if you guys
have signed up to speak during

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public comment, please make
sure that it's on items that

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are not on the agenda.

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So, for example, if you're
here to talk on the data center

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resolutions, please don't
talk about that during public

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comment because it won't be
part of the record to be used

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on those items.

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So if anything does end up
getting appealed or later, your

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comments will not be included.

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And so if you do start doing
that, either the city clerk and

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myself may remind you that this
is not the appropriate time to

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make comments on agenda items.

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So City Council has established
this public forum to receive

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input from the community.

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The public invited to be heard
portion of the meeting is

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limited by council rules for
a total of one hour, with each

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speaker allotted three minutes.

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Speakers signed up to comment
on agenda items are also

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limited to three minutes,
and comments must be related

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directly to that item on the

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agenda that is being considered.

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All participants are expected
to observe the same standards

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of decorum as the City Council.

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Personal attacks, disruptive
behavior, and demonstrations

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such as clapping, snapping,
cheering, booing or similar

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actions are not permitted.

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Please show respect to all
speakers, regardless of whether

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you agree with their comments,
and allow everyone the

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opportunity to be heard.

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Speakers who exceed the three
minute time limit reduce the

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opportunity for others to speak.

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Please be considerate of your
fellow residents when preparing

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your comments, and we do ask

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that you refrain
from using profanity.

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As you know, there may be
children watching or others

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that are sensitive to profanity.

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So mayor public
invited to be heard.

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And Schaffner followed
by Agent Anderson.

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On July 31st, 2026, Rajan Belt
Stubblefield would have been

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celebrating his 38th birthday
instead of him being here to

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celebrate that with his family

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due to him being slain
by the Aurora police.

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Another chapter of this tragedy
opened itself up because on

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July 31st, 2026.

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Instead of there being a
birthday celebration, that

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family received the news that
the officer that killed Rajan

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in the street was indicted for

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murder two and
reckless manslaughter.

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What I find interesting is
that when the system seemingly

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affirms the narrative that the
police do no wrong, or that

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when they shoot us in the

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street, somehow,
someway it is justified.

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We don't see hesitation

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from a chief of police and some
of the leaders on this dais to

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boldly speak up and
affirm that narrative.

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But when something shifts
and now there is a sense of

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accountability coming down
through that same system that

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you affirm when they
justify killing us.

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Interestingly enough, we
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of acknowledging that
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There is seemingly a protocol
of the Aurora police to post a

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mugshot of someone that commits
a crime in your city, along

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with a very descriptive

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narrative on your
social media platforms.

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I've been scrolling since
July 31st, and I have not seen

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Matthew Neely's mugshot or
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the crime that he has been

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accused of committing
in your city.

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So I just want to say that some
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in your head of why
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But I'm here to remind you that
history will not be kind to the

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A contradiction.

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You have a police chief.

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That is a walking contradiction,

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which simply means that he is
not competent to serve in the

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position that he is in.

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So, as we have said before,
and we will continue to say it

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again and again.

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Fire Chief Chamberlain,

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this is a live example of how
this chief pretends to care

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about everyone, but clearly
only cares about some.

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Anti Anderson, followed
by Della Jordan.

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Tonight I have brought
something that Mayor Kaufman is

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too familiar with a gavel
because this chamber is going

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to be a courtroom for
the next three minutes.

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And the matter before us will
be the people of Aurora versus

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the City council of Aurora.

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Tonight, you are being charged
with being complicit in the

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murders of your own citizens at
the hands of the Aurora Police

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Department, and with operating
and continuing a political

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protection system that shields

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police power from
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Let the record reflect that the
people are ready to proceed.

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Our first witnesses are the
families, the families who have

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walked into this chamber
carrying photographs of their

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loved ones murdered by APD,
the families who have come here

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with questions this government
still refuses to answer.

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The families who have begged
this city and this city council

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for accountability.

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And Mayor Kaufman.

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Those families know the
sound of your gavel.

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Your time is up.

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Please conclude.

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Sit down.

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Order!

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Look at that.

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Government does work.

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Just apparently, when it
is, a government does work.

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Just not when black families
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So tonight, the
roles are reversed.

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The families are not on trial.

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But you are.

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Todd Chamberlain is.

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The Aurora Police Department.

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Is the grief of families
entered into evidence.

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Their testimony
entered into evidence.

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The names of their loved
ones entered into evidence.

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The videos of their loved ones

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being killed entered
into evidence.

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The protests are entered into
evidence and council members.

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Your record is
entered into evidence.

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The people have
presented their case.

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The city has had years to
present its defense and

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frankly, the excuses
continue to be repetitive.

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So now it is time for the
verdict on the charge.

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On the charge of choosing

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police unions over
accountability.

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We charge the city Council
guilty on the charge of calling

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yourselves law and order while
becoming allergic to the law.

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The second accountable
accountability reaches someone

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wearing a badge.

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We charge the City Council
guilty on the charge of

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treating black grief like
disruption to municipal

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business, instead of
recognizing that black grief is

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evidence of municipal failure.

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We charge the council guilty on
the charge of having all of the

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titles, lawyers, staff,
security, the entire machinery

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of the city government at
your disposal, and somehow

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repeatedly proving the people
that you are most comfortable

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exercising power against are
the people who possess the

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least power in the room.

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We charge you guilty.

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No further questions.

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No motion to reconsider.

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No appeal to
political convenience.

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The verdict stands.

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And with that, the people
of Aurora rest their case.

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You want to do it together?

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Mayor.

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Della Jordan, followed
by Jeffrey McFarland.

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This place was in compliance.

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Aurora Regional
Navigation Center.

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Aurora Police Department.

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Dominant security.

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Mayor. Chief of police.

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Um. The uh Navigation
Center CEO.

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Security chief.

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Don't want to meet with me.

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What about a press conference?

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Advanced pathways,
male and female.

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Who refused to tell me
their names but know mine.

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Melissa Aguila green Marlin.

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Single. I know your names
and half your pictures.

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Mayor Kaufman, I
have your picture.

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Also, it says you are a board
member of Advanced Pathways,

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whose mission is to provide
pathways to recovery that

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creates self-esteem, dignity,
and independence for people

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experiencing homelessness.

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AP has missed and is
missing their mark.

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Because AP is nonprofit doesn't
mean that there are no stocks

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or bonds exchanging hands.

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Or has things changed
since I studied law?

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Aurora residents use the
use of internet research.

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This company.

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There is corruption in that

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company in that
navigation center.

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Okay. Leave.

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Alicia. My African son.

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Kofi. Christian.

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And essay alone.

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If you want to attack me,
go ahead and attack me.

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Because I'm at the age where
I'm 70 years old and I can

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fight back.

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There is so much corruption

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going on in that
building and there.

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I'm beginning to think that you
are part of it because you are

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a board member.

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But when I studied law, you
could not be a public official

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and then be a part
of a private company.

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And you think that
Feingold is a good guy?

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Not in that building.

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Not in that building.

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He's a little snip.

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He's a little snip
that walk around.

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Um, manhandling females, old
females like myself, chasing me

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around the building and asking
me about my financial, uh,

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business and stuff like that.

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Why is that?

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Even any of his business?

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Then he had the nerve
to say something stupid.

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Like, if I can't afford to buy
an egg for 30 people, I can

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afford to get out and pay
for transitional housing.

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I had to school the little fool
because he didn't understand

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the difference between taking
food stamps and spending $4.50

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for 30 people for one aid.

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And then he's talking about,
well, if you can afford to do

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that, then you can afford to
pay for transitional housing.

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Then he's going to tell me I
cannot take my personal profit

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out there.

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I've been on my medication
for over 30 days.

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My body is shutting down.

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My doctors have tried every
which way they can to get my

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medication back.

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Then when it comes to my
thyroid, a personal thyroid is

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between 2.5 to
4.0 9.1 every 100.

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I'm in the process right now to
where I could have a stroke or

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a heart attack.

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Oh, and I have a package that's
coming for each and every one

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of you, plus the police
department key and the city

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attorney and the whatever, the
attorney and the lawyers and

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whatever, whatever.

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But they have messed with the
wrong person and they are about

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to find out.

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Jeffrey McFarland,
followed by Cassandra Hill.

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She did?

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Oh, no.

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Good evening, Mayor
and city council.

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My name is Jeffrey McFarland.

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As you know, I'm a
resident of Ward one.

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I speak for no one but myself
this evening, but I do.

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I would like to pass a
message along from the AFSC of

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Colorado, Casa de Paz.

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Shut down Geo and pulse.

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They've put together a public
health order they call the

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People's Public Health Order.

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Colorado state agencies, the
governor and our city council

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have yet to use every tool
available at their disposal to

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protect the best interest
of the public health and

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Coloradans detained within
the Aurora Health Facility.

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The inaction and lack of
urgency from the governor's

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office and the CDF have
lost our trust for the

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well-documented medical neglect
inside the Aurora facility, it

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is clear that the for profit
detention model will not keep

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people safe at the Aurora
or the Bighorn facilities.

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We, the people of Colorado, are
issuing a public health order

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to compel the Geo Group to
allow a proper public health

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investigation of potential
tuberculosis infection and

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disease spread within the Geo
Aurora Ice Processing Center.

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A third party laboratory
confirmed an active

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tuberculosis case on
the June 22nd, 2026.

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This public health order is
necessary as the Geo Group,

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under contract with the
Department of Homeland

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Security, has denied entry
since June 25th, 2026, to the

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Adams County Health Department.

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The Colorado Department of
Public Health and Environment

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requested Geo comply with
the order by July 17th.

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Jio has yet to grant access.

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On the 22nd, an active case of
tuberculosis was confirmed at

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the Aurora Ice
Processing Center.

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The Geo Group defied the Public
Health Order of Adams County

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Health Department issued
on June 25th, blocked the

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tuberculosis investigation,
and has since confirmed another

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active case and noted up to
61 people who have potentially

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been exposed to date.

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The Geo Group and the
Department of Homeland Security

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and Ice have not provided any
contract tracing location data

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or access to the people who
have potentially been exposed.

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I'm going to take the last
minute here to kind of tie the

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threads together.

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If we can't call the cops to
let us into the health facility

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where there's a there's a
tuberculosis outbreak like a

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steamship era disease, uh, the
type of disease that used to

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have a past tense
Wikipedia entry.

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And now there's an outbreak
of it and we can't get in.

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Why? Because they're feds.

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Because we need to
comply with federal law.

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And make sure you think
about that when you hit that

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dispensary on your way home.

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Uh,

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I really don't understand the
the notion that the good guys

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want to put people in
cages and keep them sick.

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The good guys keep you out of a

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facility so that
nobody can be treated.

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Nobody can be quarantined.

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Nobody could be isolated.

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Symptoms can't be recorded.

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Uh, they had a press conference
where they read that public

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health order down at the
Capitol here this evening,

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about an hour or so ago.

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And I would like to reiterate
the messages of shut down Geo

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fired Todd Chamberlain, and no

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new concentration
camps in Colorado.

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That sounds like
a good one to me.

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Thank you.

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Cassandra Hill, followed
by Hashim Coates.

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Hello city.

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Council. My name is Cassandra
and I am here with the Denver

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Community Action Committee,
otherwise known as the CAG.

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We recognize the charging of
former Aurora police officer

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Matthew Neely is a
victory for the people.

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But the fight is far from over.

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This indictment of this killer
cop was won not by the goodwill

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of anyone in the government,
but by the relentless

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organizing, protesting, and

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demand for justice
from the community.

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While the formal charges
against Matthew Neely are a

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necessary step towards
accountability, true justice

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requires more than a
single court proceeding.

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It requires complete
dismantling of the narrative

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and structural protection

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provided to violent
officers by APD.

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We must address the role of
Aurora police leadership,

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played in the attempt to cover
up Rajan Rajan's death at the

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hands of Neely, Particularly
the words and actions of Chief

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Todd Chamberlain.

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Chamberlain unconstitutionally
led a campaign to smear Rajan's

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character immediately
following his murder.

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In press conferences, he
presented unverified claims as

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facts, attempting to justify
Neely's needless violence by

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asserting that Neely's sucker
punch was a de-escalating

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maneuver and recklessly
speculating about Rajan's

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intent when he disarmed himself.

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Chamberlain's attempt to twist
the facts, craft a protective

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narrative for his officers,
and slander an unarmed victim

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before a full investigation
was conducted is unacceptable.

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This behavior is consistent
with Chief Chamberlain's long

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track record of controversy
stretching back to his tenure

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with the LAPD, which includes
high profile anti-Black

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discrimination lawsuits
and systematic biases.

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Under his leadership, APD
continues to violate the spirit

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of the state consent decree and
demonstrate why public trust in

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this department remains broken.

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The Denver Award Community
Action Committee demands

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justice for Jon's
family and loved ones.

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Our charge is only the start,

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conviction and
empowering the community.

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Control their police must
follow so that wave after wave

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of police killings and crime

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can finally be
stopped in Aurora.

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We demand you fire Todd
Chamberlain, the next police

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chief selection.

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Be open to the community
and democratic and give the

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community control
over the police.

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Thank you.

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Hashem Coates, followed
by Kristen Mallory.

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Before I begin, I want to
recognize something bigger than

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any single one of us.

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Section 504 of the
Rehabilitation Act is one of

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the founding civil rights
protections for people with

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disabilities, and those
protections are once again

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under attack.

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Nine states currently are
challenging the update five

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section 504 protections, and
the integration mandate that

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helps guarantee that people
with disabilities have the

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right to live and participate
in their communities, rather

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than being unnecessarily

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segregated or institutionalized.

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That should matter here in
Aurora, because we've discussed

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disability access repeatedly
in this very room.

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We saw an issue of that
happening today, and in

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shameful truth, is that this
chamber itself does not meet

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current Ada
accessibility standards.

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Aurora's own consultant
confirmed that civil rights

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can't be something that we
celebrate nationally, or when

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we decide to give
a proclamation.

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It has to be something that
we recognize while people are

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struggling and provide
them with the bare minimum.

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I don't want to.

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I do want to recognize that
Aurora is finally moving

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forward with accessibility
improvement process, including

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a public meeting that
will be this Wednesday.

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Um, the power of voting and

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elections has caused
this to happen.

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Um, and this work is necessary.

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That meeting will be this
Wednesday, August 12th, 6 to

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7:30 p.m..

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Right here.

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Um, but I also want to give a
shout out to encourage people

514
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:48,110
to go see the movie, the play
504, um, to the Family Theater

515
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:51,390
company 500 for the musical is
playing right now down at the

516
00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:54,670
Denver Center Performing Arts,
and it's going from now until

517
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:56,410
August 23rd.

518
00:26:56,550 --> 00:26:59,790
And it tells the story of
disabled, excuse me, of

519
00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:02,670
disabled activists who are
supported by the Black Panther

520
00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:06,350
Party and how they occupied a
building in San Francisco for

521
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:10,950
25 days, and you all complain
about us holding you here till

522
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:11,830
1 a.m..

523
00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:17,510
I encourage people to utilize
their First Amendment rights to

524
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:20,630
the fullest extent that they
are granted to you, while we

525
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:24,950
still have them, before some
of your leaders erode away the

526
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:26,230
14th amendment.

527
00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:31,430
I encourage you all to stand up
and let your voices be heard.

528
00:27:31,670 --> 00:27:36,150
Additionally, I want to echo
what was said as it relates to

529
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:39,070
the Aurora police officer
being charged with murder.

530
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:40,790
About damn time.

531
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:44,630
And I want to give a big
shout out to the 18th Judicial

532
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:48,030
District D.A., Amy Patton,
because that is what leadership

533
00:27:48,030 --> 00:27:50,550
looks like when we
ask for these changes.

534
00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:52,870
And the people get out and they
vote in their representation,

535
00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:54,550
this is what we get.

536
00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:57,910
I encourage people who are
listening right now understand

537
00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:00,030
that elections are
coming up for 2027.

538
00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:03,510
There is some trash that
needs to be cleared out.

539
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,190
There is a better way
that needs to be made.

540
00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:08,590
I encourage you all to do so.

541
00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:13,350
Kristin Mallory followed
by Aaron Futrell.

542
00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:20,350
Hello, Kristen.

543
00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:21,310
Mallory Ward three.

544
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:22,550
Good to see you all.

545
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:25,190
Um, I actually don't
have anything written.

546
00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:28,030
I agree with everything that
everyone has said so far.

547
00:28:28,550 --> 00:28:32,510
Um, but the reason I wanted to
talk in open comment was about

548
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:36,070
the Great Lawn and the fact
that we took out all the turf.

549
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:40,070
And now to replace the turf
with a water wise solution, it

550
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:44,550
will require us to use more
water than we had to to get

551
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:45,790
grass re-established.

552
00:28:46,030 --> 00:28:49,110
And I just find it really
ironic that our mayor is

553
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:52,070
driving around the city
pointing the fingers at APS

554
00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:56,590
while we had a big, healthy
lawn out front here, and

555
00:28:56,630 --> 00:29:00,510
instead of just letting it die
naturally and then replacing it

556
00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:04,350
with a water wise grass, you
did the most extreme thing

557
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:06,910
possible and then
posted videos about it.

558
00:29:06,910 --> 00:29:10,630
And so instead of a great lawn,
we now have a great dirt pit.

559
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:14,550
And I understand that the plan
is to be a water wise solution,

560
00:29:14,550 --> 00:29:17,390
but there was just like a
better way to go about it.

561
00:29:17,390 --> 00:29:20,910
And it's super irresponsible
in the middle of the drought.

562
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:24,870
Like, I went up to the
mountains a couple weeks ago to

563
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:27,750
where the reservoirs are
supposed to be, and they're dry

564
00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:31,070
like, and now we're going to
spend how many thousands of

565
00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:34,990
gallons to get our great lawn
re-established, when we could

566
00:29:35,030 --> 00:29:38,030
have just let what was out
there live until it couldn't

567
00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:39,150
live with water anymore.

568
00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:42,070
So that was a very
extreme choice.

569
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:45,190
And I don't know if it was the
mayor or the city departments,

570
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:48,950
but I'm very unhappy
about that also.

571
00:29:50,270 --> 00:29:52,430
Yeah, Geo shouldn't exist.

572
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:55,150
We need to hold our cops
accountable, all the things,

573
00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:57,470
but we also need to be more
responsible with water.

574
00:29:57,470 --> 00:30:00,030
And that will come up again Uh,

575
00:30:00,110 --> 00:30:02,070
here very shortly, so thank you.

576
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:05,950
Aaron Futrell.

577
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:09,470
Aaron Futrell, followed
by Juan Marcano.

578
00:30:19,270 --> 00:30:20,070
All right.

579
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:21,910
Good morning.

580
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:23,470
Or evening Council.

581
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:26,150
Mayor, thank you for the
opportunity to speak.

582
00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:29,790
Probably going to sound like
a parrot because it's been a

583
00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:33,870
week, especially with the
news regarding John Bell

584
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:36,590
Stubblefield and the officer
being charged with second

585
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:39,870
degree murder and
reckless manslaughter.

586
00:30:40,790 --> 00:30:43,350
Uh, that development
is significant.

587
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:46,470
But tonight, I want to address
something that has been

588
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:49,030
consistently,
conspicuously absent.

589
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:52,590
An apology from chief Josh or
Chief Todd, whatever you like

590
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:55,190
to call him, if you
know, you know, um,

591
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:58,750
to the to the community
activists who witnessed this

592
00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:02,030
incident recognized that
something was wrong and had the

593
00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:04,230
courage to livestream
what they were seeing.

594
00:31:04,270 --> 00:31:05,590
Let's be clear the community

595
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:07,910
activists did not
create this situation.

596
00:31:07,910 --> 00:31:10,030
They did not cause
the confrontation.

597
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:11,550
They did not pull the trigger.

598
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:14,470
They simply documented
what they witnessed.

599
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:17,190
And yet, instead of
acknowledging their role as a

600
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:21,350
witness and treating them
with dignity, A-p-d and its

601
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:25,310
leadership spent far too much
time attempting to undermine

602
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:26,270
their credibility.

603
00:31:26,390 --> 00:31:30,670
And yet, instead of not now,
I understand that the police

604
00:31:30,670 --> 00:31:34,390
chief has an obligation to
stand behind our officers,

605
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:37,030
especially when officers are
doing their jobs professionally

606
00:31:37,030 --> 00:31:37,750
and honorably.

607
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:41,550
And I have no problem giving
APD credit where credit is due.

608
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:45,910
When officers remove illegal
guns, drugs, counterfeit money,

609
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:48,390
find hit and run cars.

610
00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:49,830
They deserve recognition.

611
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,990
But leadership cannot mean
unconditional loyalty.

612
00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:56,750
Where is that same unwavering
defense when a police vehicle

613
00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,550
was stolen during a burglary,
and APD became the subject of

614
00:32:00,550 --> 00:32:03,630
national and local
ridicule ridicule.

615
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:07,190
Where was it when a school
resource officer was accused of

616
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:10,350
using his his space as a

617
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,350
personal dating
environment for years?

618
00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:16,390
In those situations, the chief
appropriately condemned the

619
00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:18,950
conduct that was embarrassing
and unacceptable.

620
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:22,270
So why was this community
activists treated differently?

621
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:26,430
The grand jury report
ultimately corroborated the one

622
00:32:26,430 --> 00:32:30,510
account there, the account that
the activists had been publicly

623
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:33,830
reporting that it is all
paused for two years.

624
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:36,270
We have heard community
leaders, organizers, residents

625
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:40,390
and yes, myself included,
call for chief Josh Chief Chad

626
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:41,670
Chamberlain to step down.

627
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,990
Frankly, that conversation
is becoming stale.

628
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:46,990
Tonight, I'm asking for
something far simpler and far

629
00:32:46,990 --> 00:32:48,030
more consequential.

630
00:32:48,390 --> 00:32:50,990
Todd Chamberlain needs
to apologize publicly.

631
00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:52,110
Apologize to the community

632
00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:53,870
activists who
attempted to discredit.

633
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
apologized for the rhetoric
that contributed to the

634
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,040
mistrust, and acknowledge that
community members should not

635
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,000
have to choose between speaking
up and being publicly vilified

636
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840
when they witness
something going wrong.

637
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Chief, you cannot rebuild trust
while simultaneously dismissing

638
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,800
the very people who
stress you need.

639
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,080
If APD wants a fresh start
with this community, then let's

640
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160
begin with accountability,
humility, and transparency.

641
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,480
You can stand with your
officers when they are right,

642
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
but when an officer crosses
the line, when their conduct

643
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,320
becomes reckless, excessive,
and indefensible, you have an

644
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,320
obligation to the
community and the truth.

645
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Thank you.

646
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,000
Juan Marcano, followed
by Zachary Cotton.

647
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Good evening.

648
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960
My name is Juan Marcano, and
I'm a resident of Fort Ford.

649
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,880
I'm here to speak with you all
tonight about the rules changes

650
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,320
that y'all were discussing
during study session.

651
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,760
I want to begin by thanking
you all for taking the time to

652
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,640
review the council
rules in their entirety.

653
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,720
I know that there's been a lot
of damage done to how this body

654
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800
conducts this business since
2021, and I'm really grateful

655
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,160
that y'all are taking the
time to repair that damage.

656
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,600
I just wanted to highlight a
couple of things that I think

657
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,240
would make the people's House a
little more inviting for all of

658
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,600
our community members.

659
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,440
For starters, I'd like to see
the one hour limit on public

660
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,000
invited to be heard removed.

661
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,960
Listening to members of the
public about items that are not

662
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,720
on the agenda is an
important part of your roles.

663
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,120
If you're concerned about the
length of public testimony, I

664
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,600
encourage you all to address

665
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,240
the items that you're
hearing repeatedly.

666
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:34,240
We've had, for example,
families, grieving families who

667
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,440
have been coming up through
public invited to be heard for

668
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,280
the better part of,
what, three years now?

669
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,880
If you want to get that to
stop, I recommend that you

670
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,880
actually address the grievances.

671
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120
That means take time to
formulate a plan, add it to the

672
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,120
agenda, and address
those issues.

673
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,520
That solves the problem.

674
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Number two, I'd appreciate,
uh, I appreciate that y'all are

675
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,880
trying to require council
members to, and I quote,

676
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,560
endeavour to appear in person,
unquote, at council meetings

677
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400
while still allowing for
remote participation.

678
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,480
I think that's fair.

679
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,280
Although I really want to see
council members required to be

680
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600
on camera while they are
participating remotely,

681
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,200
especially when they are voting.

682
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,840
And I would also ask that you
extend that same courtesy to

683
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
members of the public who wish
to speak on agenda items, or

684
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,280
for public invited to be
heard, let them join remotely.

685
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,200
We already have the technology
to do that, and three, I would

686
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,760
love to see y'all get rid of
the stanchions and the security

687
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,720
theater outside.

688
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Y'all should take a look at how
much that contract is costing

689
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,600
the city, and consider what
message it sends to the public.

690
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
None of this existed until
after 2023, and I haven't come

691
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
in to city Council
meetings since 2015.

692
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,160
None of that existed before.

693
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
I have never felt
unsafe in this chamber.

694
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,560
You guys are about two
feet higher behind a bullet

695
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,320
resistant dais than
anyone else out here.

696
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Y'all have nothing
to be afraid of.

697
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,440
Please get rid of
the security theater.

698
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,720
Save this a little bit.

699
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Save the city.

700
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,440
A little bit of money.

701
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,520
The only use I've seen come
out of that is to selectively

702
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640
harass members of the
community over water bottles.

703
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,640
That's unacceptable.

704
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,160
We can do better than that.

705
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,440
And I want to end with
a separate topic here.

706
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,520
I encourage you all to check
out the Denver Post today.

707
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,680
They wrote a pretty scathing
op ed about the repeated

708
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,360
humiliation that APD brings
upon the city, our reputation,

709
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,400
the amount of money that they

710
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,800
have cost us out of
our general fund.

711
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560
There are better
solutions out there.

712
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960
I have already spoken at
nauseam, and I will continue to

713
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
about looking at contracting
with the Arapahoe County

714
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Sheriff's Department.

715
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,880
They have a fantastic record.

716
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,240
It would save you all money
and allow us to make community

717
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,480
investments while delivering a
better public safety service to

718
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,080
the city.

719
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Thank you.

720
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:37,760
Zachary cotton, Zachary
Cotton, followed by Jeff Brown.

721
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,400
This is he getting asked
for any station, Jeff Brown.

722
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,400
No,

723
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,560
he's after this guy.

724
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:03,680
All right.

725
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Good evening.

726
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,880
I'm asking you all, especially
council members Andrews,

727
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Hancock and Medina on the
Public Safety committee to join

728
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440
the public, state and county
level bodies in providing

729
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
pressure against the Geo Group,
denying health investigators

730
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,760
from looking into the
tuberculosis cases in the

731
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,480
Aurora Ice Processing Center.

732
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,160
The fact that the Adams County
Health Department is being

733
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,760
prevented from prevented from
knowing the full extent of this

734
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,640
issue should be
concerning for you all.

735
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:29,120
We cannot trust the Geo Group

736
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,560
to take care of this internally.

737
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,760
People in this chamber have
brought up the medical neglect

738
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
that happens in this facility,
and I personally have spoken

739
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640
with two people that have told
me about the inadequate care

740
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,240
that they receive or their
door mates have received.

741
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,960
I keep coming back to the Shut
Down Geo coalition's report

742
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,040
from this spring in particular
that reports people receiving

743
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,480
ibuprofen for serious
conditions, especially the the

744
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,600
physician who was sued for the
same kind of neglect that he

745
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,920
committed in 2024.

746
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,720
The same physician is still
working at this facility.

747
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,200
So how can we trust this
medical director to treat this

748
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,600
current infectious disease with

749
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,400
the speed and care
that is required?

750
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,480
I know that some of you will
say that this is not your lane,

751
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640
and that there is not anything
that you can do here, but I

752
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,880
need you to speak up.

753
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,200
Were you at the town hall
meeting that the Adams County

754
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,840
Health Department
hosted on Friday?

755
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Have you shown any support
for the House bill 261276 that

756
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
would expand state authority
in these investigations?

757
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,640
Have you outlined any
memorandums of understanding,

758
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,200
establishing your place in this
process between yourselves and

759
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,480
other impacted bodies?

760
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,880
Right now, all I see is that
you're willing to be silent as

761
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,720
as you, as you usually are.

762
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Uh, while the potential public
health crisis is brewing.

763
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,480
Um,

764
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,920
so that's about the geo.

765
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,720
I do also want to mention, uh,

766
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,560
the contract with Integra Shore.

767
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,320
That $4 million contract over
four years for like 24 people

768
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,600
working on that staff.

769
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
Um, a lot of them were working
with LAPD as well to kind of

770
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,200
around the same time
as Todd Chamberlain.

771
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,480
So I would love for you all to
ask the, uh, what is it, the

772
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040
city auditor, to
actually look into that?

773
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,200
She is able to look into that

774
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,360
because it has passed
a $10,000 contract.

775
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,560
And when I when I emailed her
about this, she mentioned that

776
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,640
she really isn't going to look
into it unless someone finds a

777
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,760
conflict of interest.

778
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,120
So I encourage everybody in
this chamber, including all of

779
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,320
the citizens, to look for
those, uh, conflicts of

780
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,960
interest, because I'm
sure they're there.

781
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,880
Uh, we know that the blue
line is masculine and.

782
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Uh, so I really do encourage
everybody to look into this.

783
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,320
I will continue to
look into this as well.

784
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680
But for the meantime,
please shut down Jill.

785
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:37,600
Please help prevent
tuberculosis from spreading it

786
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
within that facility and
out to the community.

787
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,600
Thank you.

788
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Jeff Brown, followed by Adam
Shepard and Jeff Brown, has

789
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960
made an accommodation request
that was approved by an Ada

790
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,680
coordinator, and he will
have four minutes to speak.

791
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Additional. Additional.

792
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,040
She said.

793
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,380
Four.

794
00:40:00,380 --> 00:40:00,680
Minutes.

795
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,160
You said.

796
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,040
I thought you said one minute.

797
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,360
You said one minute
of four minutes.

798
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:03,840
Yeah.

799
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,040
Katie.

800
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,280
Katie.

801
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,400
Yes.

802
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,720
Thank you.

803
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Gentleman. Is information for.

804
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,240
Me? Yes, thanks.

805
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Thank you.

806
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,320
And good evening, mayor.

807
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,400
City council.

808
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,600
I'm here to talk about
something different, something

809
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360
that you don't really
talk about much recently.

810
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:31,120
And I just wanted to kind of
overlay a a pertinent fact at

811
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,240
this point in time.

812
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,800
A few months ago, a few
weeks ago, you approved three

813
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,480
increases to the sales tax
or at least approved ballot

814
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,560
measures to increase
the sales tax.

815
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,920
You did that after this.

816
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,440
This body not doing anything
in the past decade, the past

817
00:40:54,440 --> 00:41:00,800
decade, the past decade to
improve the retail tax base.

818
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,120
CIBC, where I served for
over two years, repeatedly,

819
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:15,520
repeatedly, repeatedly begged
this body to take the lagging

820
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,720
retail tax base seriously.

821
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,720
And this body
ignored ignored us.

822
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,880
I've personally begged this
body to take the lack of

823
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,520
entertainment and the impact
to to retail and dining

824
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
seriously, and I've
been laughed at.

825
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,560
I've been defamed Enough!

826
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,360
Enough! I submitted two
resolutions to you on Saturday

827
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,400
via email.

828
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,280
Anyone want to look at it?

829
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Right here?

830
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,080
I have hard copies.

831
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,120
If anyone in the audience wants
to see them, the first one is

832
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,360
pretty simple.

833
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,120
The retail

834
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,320
activity per resident should
be reported regularly to the

835
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,680
people of Aurora and
to you all every week.

836
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:18,320
You guys are making decisions
that are hostile to the retail

837
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,440
tax base and use
tax base as well.

838
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,080
We can't afford it.

839
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,240
This city can't punch its way,
fund its way out of a wet paper

840
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:34,160
bag and you're chasing
business away every week.

841
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:35,730
I'm not.

842
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:36,730
Sure if you really, really.

843
00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:37,490
Realize that.

844
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:40,210
Do you stop and ask yourselves,
what is this doing to our

845
00:42:40,450 --> 00:42:43,330
retail tax base which
is in the toilet?

846
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:52,770
So again, the first resolution
puts that metrics in the budget

847
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:56,850
book every year with a full
analysis every five years.

848
00:42:56,890 --> 00:43:05,130
It also states that tourism and
then use our strategic tools to

849
00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:07,210
improve the retail tax base.

850
00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:09,970
The second resolution

851
00:43:11,330 --> 00:43:16,970
articulates City Council's
desire and intent and direction

852
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:20,450
to city staff, to both
communicate to the governor and

853
00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:24,090
the legislature that the city
of Aurora wants out of the

854
00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:25,370
Denver CFD.

855
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:31,330
We're going to recreate it as a
home rule city, which I believe

856
00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:36,690
we can do, And focus on what
we need to fix our retail, our

857
00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:38,490
entertainment and our dining.

858
00:43:39,970 --> 00:43:41,850
So two resolutions.

859
00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:44,570
I have hard copies
if you want to see

860
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:46,850
electronic

861
00:43:48,730 --> 00:43:51,330
copies. Here you go.

862
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:58,690
But right now, this group
right now is more interested in

863
00:43:58,690 --> 00:44:02,810
having you pay higher sales
tax than trying to get anything

864
00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:07,370
to attract visitors
from around the region.

865
00:44:07,410 --> 00:44:08,530
Please address the council.

866
00:44:08,570 --> 00:44:10,330
Coming to d.A.

867
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:13,690
To spend your taxing.

868
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:16,810
You have us paying higher taxes

869
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:20,770
then than actually
encourage people.

870
00:44:20,810 --> 00:44:21,330
To get them.

871
00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:24,090
Entice people to come to
our ward to spend here.

872
00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:25,930
And enough.

873
00:44:26,290 --> 00:44:28,010
Enough. You're caught.

874
00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:28,730
We're not.

875
00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:31,770
We're not voting for
three taxable cases.

876
00:44:31,810 --> 00:44:32,250
Not going to.

877
00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:38,730
Adelina Shepard
followed by Robert.

878
00:44:38,770 --> 00:44:39,410
Louis.

879
00:44:51,490 --> 00:44:52,370
Robert. Louis.

880
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:54,170
Followed by Louis.

881
00:45:12,370 --> 00:45:12,970
I'm. Robert.

882
00:45:12,970 --> 00:45:14,450
Louis. Louis.

883
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:16,770
Father. The one
that y'all murdered.

884
00:45:16,810 --> 00:45:18,570
Well, your little
officer murdered.

885
00:45:18,570 --> 00:45:20,010
And you didn't get no justice

886
00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:23,130
for my son, but he
will get justice.

887
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:27,610
Um, I think I don't really to
much have anything to say to

888
00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:30,090
y'all, because there's nothing
that you're going to listen to

889
00:45:30,130 --> 00:45:32,530
anyway, to y'all
burning in hell.

890
00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:33,890
But, um.

891
00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:36,410
I'd be ashamed to
live in Aurora.

892
00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:37,850
I was ashamed when I was

893
00:45:37,850 --> 00:45:39,530
little, when I used
to live in Aurora.

894
00:45:39,850 --> 00:45:42,890
Because y'all some racists,
no good, prejudiced bastards.

895
00:45:43,490 --> 00:45:44,970
And now I see all the other

896
00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,410
stuff that y'all
are not doing right.

897
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:50,370
You poor little
helpless elderly lady.

898
00:45:50,490 --> 00:45:52,050
Y'all not even
going to help her.

899
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:55,050
But it's just a shame to see

900
00:45:56,490 --> 00:45:59,490
y'all sit up there like you're
high and mighty and don't do a

901
00:45:59,490 --> 00:46:03,770
damn thing, but sit there and
get paid by the state or city

902
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:05,330
or whatever you work for.

903
00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:07,730
It's just a shame

904
00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:12,290
that none of y'all seemed to do
the right thing, but you keep

905
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:14,050
wanting to do the wrong things.

906
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:17,690
But one day it's
going to clash on you.

907
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:22,730
And I just wish that I could do.

908
00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:24,250
Be the one to clash it on you.

909
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:26,850
Because I'd make you pay.

910
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:30,210
I make you pay real deeply.

911
00:46:31,610 --> 00:46:34,890
And not just for the mess y'all
doing, Aurora, but just for the

912
00:46:34,890 --> 00:46:36,130
murder of my son.

913
00:46:36,130 --> 00:46:39,250
Because you backed this little
murder and ass cop that should

914
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:41,010
be dead or in prison.

915
00:46:44,690 --> 00:46:47,450
You know, and every other week
I come down here and express my

916
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:50,810
little emotions to y'all, which
you don't even understand,

917
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:53,890
because I wish I could get a
clan of people together and

918
00:46:53,890 --> 00:46:55,410
just take your ass out

919
00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:58,570
and start all over again,

920
00:47:00,130 --> 00:47:02,290
you know, with somebody that
would give a damn about their

921
00:47:02,290 --> 00:47:06,530
community and what's really
going on and how you let these

922
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:09,570
murdering ass cops have their
jobs and still do what they

923
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:11,130
supposed to not be doing.

924
00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:15,170
But I just wanted to let y'all

925
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:16,650
know that a little bit about it.

926
00:47:16,650 --> 00:47:20,250
And the rest of y'all, the ones
that don't have nothing to do

927
00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:24,610
with it, I understand, but
y'all just really irked me and

928
00:47:24,610 --> 00:47:27,810
I really hate coming down here
every other week, but I will.

929
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:30,850
Because it's standing
up for my son.

930
00:47:31,210 --> 00:47:34,010
And like I said, he didn't
deserve to die like that no

931
00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:35,970
matter what the
hell was going on.

932
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:40,810
You don't shoot an unarmed
man and the punk ass cop.

933
00:47:40,810 --> 00:47:44,610
Like I said, if I ever come
across him, I killing myself.

934
00:47:46,210 --> 00:47:49,250
That's just a shame that I have
to live my life like that and

935
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:52,570
wonder why I have to deal with
the little murder and ass cop

936
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:53,570
that runs around here.

937
00:47:53,610 --> 00:47:54,850
Free as a bird

938
00:47:55,890 --> 00:47:57,770
and ain't paying nothing.

939
00:47:58,570 --> 00:48:00,290
Why y'all sit there and laugh?

940
00:48:01,090 --> 00:48:02,530
I'm not laughing.

941
00:48:04,570 --> 00:48:05,970
Sure. Dina Lewis.

942
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:13,250
Sir Dina Lewis,
followed by Paul Nelson.

943
00:48:14,650 --> 00:48:20,130
My name is Dina Lewis, and I'm
the grandmother of Aaron Lewis.

944
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:26,690
And Aaron Lewis was a calm,
cool and collected person, and

945
00:48:26,690 --> 00:48:30,490
he was human when he said
pledge allegiance to the flag

946
00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:33,610
of the United States of
America, to the republic for

947
00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:34,250
which it stands.

948
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:37,170
One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and

949
00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:38,010
justice for all.

950
00:48:38,050 --> 00:48:41,730
They need to take the liberty
and justice for all off that.

951
00:48:41,810 --> 00:48:45,370
Yes, they've been killing
black, unarmed black men and

952
00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:48,730
women, and they're
getting away with it.

953
00:48:48,770 --> 00:48:49,970
Some of them are.

954
00:48:50,970 --> 00:48:52,370
So I

955
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:58,930
graduated from Metropolitan
State College with a degree in

956
00:48:58,930 --> 00:49:00,490
law enforcement and criminology.

957
00:49:00,770 --> 00:49:02,370
And I'm

958
00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:05,530
the professor that taught

959
00:49:06,810 --> 00:49:07,930
a class.

960
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:11,050
And, um, her name
was Joyce Stevens.

961
00:49:11,370 --> 00:49:19,210
And she said that there
are a lot of gangsters

962
00:49:21,130 --> 00:49:25,290
Applying for the police force
and getting a badge and hiding

963
00:49:25,290 --> 00:49:30,810
behind that badge and doing
evil, and that they used to

964
00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:34,810
have boards a long time ago
to check out the police force,

965
00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:36,090
what they were doing.

966
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:40,130
And so there are racist police

967
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:42,810
officers hiding
behind the badge.

968
00:49:43,290 --> 00:49:47,730
And the thing is, you got to
be careful around them because

969
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:49,410
they're not to be trusted.

970
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:53,530
And especially with
black people, they don't.

971
00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:55,210
They can't be trusted.

972
00:49:56,410 --> 00:50:00,130
So I, I just say, um.

973
00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:02,330
They said they wanted to talk

974
00:50:02,330 --> 00:50:06,130
to him about attempted homicide.

975
00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:07,930
So we asked.

976
00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:09,770
I asked, what's the
attempted homicide?

977
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:12,850
Were you threatening to kill
somebody or you killed somebody

978
00:50:12,850 --> 00:50:14,050
and they missed that.

979
00:50:14,290 --> 00:50:17,210
And Kylan was not that way.

980
00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:18,450
But how?

981
00:50:18,450 --> 00:50:19,930
Why would you kill them?

982
00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:21,490
You want to question why?

983
00:50:22,090 --> 00:50:23,370
Why would you

984
00:50:24,490 --> 00:50:25,050
talk about.

985
00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:28,050
You want to question him, and

986
00:50:28,050 --> 00:50:29,770
you kill him before
you can question.

987
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:32,330
What kind of questioning are

988
00:50:32,330 --> 00:50:34,410
you going to do with a dead man?

989
00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:39,610
He has no no defense for
himself or what's going on.

990
00:50:39,930 --> 00:50:41,610
But they just killed him.

991
00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:42,490
Another thing.

992
00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:47,290
He was six foot two, very
handsome, tall young man.

993
00:50:47,290 --> 00:50:50,530
And when they asked them, we
saw the police cam, they asked

994
00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:51,890
them to get out of the car.

995
00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:56,370
And he got out of the car and
his hands were up in the air.

996
00:50:57,290 --> 00:51:01,570
Up in the air like that one
hand had a cell phone, so they

997
00:51:01,570 --> 00:51:03,850
wanted to say that
might be a gun.

998
00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:07,810
A gun would be down here
when you have a gun.

999
00:51:07,810 --> 00:51:09,530
Not way up in the sky.

1000
00:51:11,050 --> 00:51:16,770
So the guy that shot me had
other police officers there?

1001
00:51:17,090 --> 00:51:20,530
Notice of the police officers
being shot with just this, one

1002
00:51:20,570 --> 00:51:24,250
officer thinks that it
fits at the same time.

1003
00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:27,010
Then when there's hands up in
the air and they shot him in

1004
00:51:27,010 --> 00:51:28,810
the stomach and he went down.

1005
00:51:28,850 --> 00:51:30,370
He kept saying to them.

1006
00:51:30,490 --> 00:51:31,890
Then he had his
hands up in the air.

1007
00:51:31,930 --> 00:51:35,050
I don't have anything,
I don't have anything.

1008
00:51:35,290 --> 00:51:37,250
I don't have anything in this.

1009
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:40,130
That one shot him when
he went to the ground.

1010
00:51:41,410 --> 00:51:42,570
It's just terrible.

1011
00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:43,610
It's horrific.

1012
00:51:43,770 --> 00:51:46,650
And I'll never forget that.

1013
00:51:46,690 --> 00:51:51,250
So we have some good police
officers, but there are quite a

1014
00:51:51,250 --> 00:51:55,410
few police officers out there
that's hiding behind the badge

1015
00:51:55,450 --> 00:51:57,810
races and doing
their dirty work.

1016
00:51:57,970 --> 00:52:03,130
So I pray I will of God that
they get those type of police

1017
00:52:03,130 --> 00:52:07,930
officers off the street, and
don't let them be a police

1018
00:52:07,930 --> 00:52:11,410
officer any anymore, no
matter where they come from.

1019
00:52:11,890 --> 00:52:12,890
Thank you.

1020
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:19,180
Paul Nelson.

1021
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,180
Paul Nelson, followed
by Tristan Hirst.

1022
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:35,820
Hello, Council.

1023
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:37,020
Thank you for the time.

1024
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,100
My name is Paul Nelson.

1025
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:40,100
My friends and
associates call me Nels.

1026
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:43,300
I want to first address the
fact that it's a damn good

1027
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,180
thing that this killer
cop was indicted.

1028
00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:47,740
And it wasn't because
any of you did anything.

1029
00:52:48,140 --> 00:52:51,020
It was actually because of the
brave people in this room who

1030
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:52,420
have showed up for three years

1031
00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:54,820
and have continued
to demand justice.

1032
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:57,380
Justice has never
been handed to people.

1033
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:58,940
It has to be one in struggle.

1034
00:52:58,940 --> 00:52:59,980
And the people have struggled

1035
00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:02,420
real hard for this
small step forward.

1036
00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:05,940
But it is an important one
and it needs to be continued.

1037
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:08,660
Use. The Council should offer
support towards the indictment

1038
00:53:08,660 --> 00:53:10,860
of this criminal cop, and
should call for the indictment

1039
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:12,620
of the other killer
cops in the community.

1040
00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:15,620
Um, it's plain and simple.

1041
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:18,380
You know, the Aurora Police
Department is killing many

1042
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:19,500
black fathers.

1043
00:53:19,580 --> 00:53:22,180
They're killing many
children in our community.

1044
00:53:22,180 --> 00:53:23,220
And it.

1045
00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:27,580
And, you know, Todd Chamberlain
is running rampant, destroying

1046
00:53:27,620 --> 00:53:30,740
due process for people where
they don't have innocent until

1047
00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:31,740
proven guilty.

1048
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,500
Um, like we would all want
under the accusation of any

1049
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,540
sort of crime.

1050
00:53:36,580 --> 00:53:39,540
Right. That's that's supposed
to be the rule of law.

1051
00:53:39,580 --> 00:53:40,980
He has trampled upon that.

1052
00:53:41,020 --> 00:53:44,460
He has abused his position to
slander these people who have

1053
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:47,540
been murdered by the police
department, using the media,

1054
00:53:47,620 --> 00:53:49,540
using his his position as a

1055
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:51,180
police officer, as
the chief of police.

1056
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:51,780
He has done this.

1057
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:52,700
It's irresponsible.

1058
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:55,100
And now the winds are changing
and they're blowing in the

1059
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:55,620
other direction.

1060
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:56,820
He's been indicted.

1061
00:53:57,060 --> 00:53:58,100
What are you going to do?

1062
00:53:58,140 --> 00:53:59,660
The political
winds are changing.

1063
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,700
A lot of you careerists up here
ought to see that and recognize

1064
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,620
that it's time to call
for his resignation.

1065
00:54:05,060 --> 00:54:06,220
At the very least, you should

1066
00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:07,940
call for Todd
Chamberlain's resignation.

1067
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:10,540
He has no business
being in this.

1068
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:12,140
Being in this community.

1069
00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:13,060
You should do that.

1070
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:13,940
You're free individuals.

1071
00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:14,700
You can make statements.

1072
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,860
You should at least be
brave enough to do that.

1073
00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:19,380
Add a little spine to this
council because he was

1074
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:21,220
complicit in what is a cover up.

1075
00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:25,220
These are cover ups that he
he's engaging in after the cops

1076
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:28,460
kill, and he gets on the screen
and begins to slander the

1077
00:54:28,460 --> 00:54:30,420
people, slander the children.

1078
00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:33,940
You know, he called it trans
confusion as the basis of why

1079
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:35,380
that child was shot.

1080
00:54:35,780 --> 00:54:37,180
The Mason child.

1081
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:40,700
And that's shameful enough
to warrant a resignation.

1082
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:42,260
But there's been a
dozen more cases.

1083
00:54:42,260 --> 00:54:44,100
You should take
this very seriously.

1084
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:47,060
And to reiterate some
basic demands here.

1085
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:50,860
Neely needs to be convicted,
not just indicted.

1086
00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:53,660
We want to see this all the way
to conviction and lock them up.

1087
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:54,820
He needs to be put away where

1088
00:54:54,820 --> 00:54:56,540
he's not going to
harm people anymore.

1089
00:54:56,940 --> 00:55:00,340
And the same thing needs to
be happening to the people who

1090
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:01,580
killed Kylen Lewis.

1091
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:04,380
That's Officer Deke needs to
happen to the two cops who

1092
00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:05,500
killed Corey Dillard.

1093
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:08,340
Needs to be happening to the
cops who killed Rashad Johnson

1094
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:11,540
and the Mason child, as
well as Cordell Richardson.

1095
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,420
Um, the same motion should be
happening there, and you should

1096
00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:16,500
call for it.

1097
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:20,380
You should call for an apology,
for an apology from the APD and

1098
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:22,940
a resignation by this Tod
Chamberlain individual who's

1099
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:24,220
complicit in crime.

1100
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:27,140
He's a criminal, and he's
running a criminal organization

1101
00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:29,700
of murderers when he
covers up for him.

1102
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:32,340
Insofar as you allow that to
persist in your community,

1103
00:55:32,340 --> 00:55:33,100
that's what's happening.

1104
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:34,740
They talked about the
op ed earlier, right?

1105
00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:37,500
Maybe you should read that and
finally, give us a community

1106
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:38,220
control over.

1107
00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:39,220
The police department.

1108
00:55:39,220 --> 00:55:39,660
It means.

1109
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:40,340
To hire and.

1110
00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:43,220
Fire these crooked cops, give
the community the power to hold

1111
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:44,060
them accountable.

1112
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,980
But currently, the power that
nobody has, we're relying on

1113
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:47,820
police to police.

1114
00:55:47,820 --> 00:55:49,300
Police? That's ridiculous.

1115
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:50,340
And it's never going to work.

1116
00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:52,300
So we demand community control.

1117
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:57,180
Tristan Hurst, followed
by Kiowa Lewis.

1118
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:12,780
Good evening, mayor
and council members.

1119
00:56:12,860 --> 00:56:15,860
My name is Tristan Ward,
one resident of five years.

1120
00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:18,660
I'm here with one request
tonight, and I'll keep coming

1121
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:20,460
back until you hear it clearly.

1122
00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:22,180
Fire! Todd Chamberlain.

1123
00:56:22,180 --> 00:56:24,620
Not next month, not
after another review.

1124
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:28,500
Now let's talk about
who this man is again.

1125
00:56:28,820 --> 00:56:31,700
Before Aurora hired him, Todd
Chamberlain was turned down by

1126
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,220
at least three other police
departments, rejected

1127
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:37,060
specifically because he was
considered too racially biased

1128
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,820
to lead.

1129
00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:42,020
Not inexperienced, not
unpopular to racist.

1130
00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:44,780
In fact, there was outrage in
Chattanooga that he was even

1131
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:47,660
considered to be a finalist
for their police chief.

1132
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:49,860
And yet our city manager, Jason

1133
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:51,940
Batchelor, handpicked
him anyway.

1134
00:56:52,380 --> 00:56:56,860
No community input, no town
halls, no transparency in the

1135
00:56:56,860 --> 00:56:58,540
most diverse city in the state

1136
00:56:58,580 --> 00:57:00,620
one under a consent
decree, no less.

1137
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:04,020
We had zero say
in who polices us.

1138
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:05,540
That is not leadership.

1139
00:57:05,580 --> 00:57:06,780
That is contempt.

1140
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:09,580
Since Chamberlain took
over, what has changed?

1141
00:57:09,580 --> 00:57:12,020
Nothing. The names
keep piling up.

1142
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:13,420
Kylan. Lewis, Corey.

1143
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:14,460
Dillard, Rajan.

1144
00:57:14,740 --> 00:57:16,340
Stubblefield, Rashad.

1145
00:57:16,340 --> 00:57:17,700
Johnson, Avi Bal.

1146
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:18,700
Mason, Omar.

1147
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,620
Garlington. This didn't even
start with Elijah McClain and

1148
00:57:22,660 --> 00:57:25,820
the botched consent decree
that arose out of it.

1149
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:27,700
A vast majority murdered by APD.

1150
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:29,940
Are our black and brown
neighbors all unarmed?

1151
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:31,540
All deeply loved.

1152
00:57:31,820 --> 00:57:34,020
Their families have shown up
to every single one of these

1153
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:37,580
meetings faithfully, painfully,
while you sit behind the dais

1154
00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:38,900
and talk about decorum.

1155
00:57:39,060 --> 00:57:40,140
Let me be blunt.

1156
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:41,460
You care more about procedure

1157
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,220
than about dead
robins in the streets.

1158
00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:44,940
And that is not an accusation.

1159
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:48,140
That is a fact proven
by your refusal to act.

1160
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,860
We are asking for
more than a liaison.

1161
00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:52,660
We are not asking for a study.

1162
00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:54,700
We are not asking for
another committee.

1163
00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:58,460
We are asking for his job
because the single most

1164
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:02,420
powerful thing this council can
do to restore trust, to show

1165
00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:05,180
that black and brown lives
actually matter here is to

1166
00:58:05,180 --> 00:58:07,460
remove the man at the top who
should never have been hired in

1167
00:58:07,460 --> 00:58:08,500
the first place.

1168
00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:10,060
You have the votes.

1169
00:58:10,060 --> 00:58:11,260
You have the authority.

1170
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:12,980
You have the moral obligation.

1171
00:58:13,420 --> 00:58:16,980
So I'll end this where I
started fire Todd Chamberlain.

1172
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,300
Or explain to the people of
Aurora and to Kaitlyn Lewis

1173
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,980
family why you chose to protect
Chamberlain instead of, oh, I

1174
00:58:23,980 --> 00:58:25,860
don't know your
actual constituents.

1175
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:29,740
Kiowa. Lewis.

1176
00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:33,300
Kiowa Lewis.

1177
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:34,980
Followed by Laura McLaughlin.

1178
00:58:58,460 --> 00:59:00,860
So tonight, I'm gonna speak
to all y'all in parables

1179
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:06,020
What that means is this is not
a threat, but it is something

1180
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:07,460
to pay close attention for.

1181
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:14,060
Sorry. Pay close attention to
simply because these are the

1182
00:59:14,060 --> 00:59:15,420
things you need to heed.

1183
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:20,100
So I want to ask y'all who
is ready to die tonight?

1184
00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:24,540
Who is ready to die to their
flesh and pick up your cross?

1185
00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:30,940
When I tell you the curse that
I had bestowed upon y'all.

1186
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,340
It doesn't come
without consequences.

1187
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:36,300
You ask for forgiveness.

1188
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:40,340
Probably you may pay to some
praise to some fictitious, you

1189
00:59:40,340 --> 00:59:42,380
know, quote unquote God,

1190
00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:45,500
but none of them
is the Most High.

1191
00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:48,740
Number one is
Elohim or Yahweh or

1192
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:50,620
none of that.

1193
00:59:50,660 --> 00:59:53,820
Right. So I want y'all to
understand that as y'all sit

1194
00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:55,260
here and continue to still let

1195
00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:57,980
people get killed
and families hurt.

1196
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,180
God sees all.

1197
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:01,460
Yahweh sees all of this, right?

1198
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:02,900
He ain't playing
no games with it.

1199
01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:06,700
So I ask y'all, who's going
to pick up their flesh?

1200
01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:08,820
Or pick up their cross
and lay down their flesh?

1201
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:10,060
Die to your flesh.

1202
01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:13,500
Um. Mike Kaufman, I feel
so sorry for you, bro.

1203
01:00:13,540 --> 01:00:15,140
I do, I do.

1204
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:20,020
Um, I hear the prayers that
you actually is repetitive.

1205
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:22,460
And actually the scripture
speak against that.

1206
01:00:22,660 --> 01:00:25,860
Nothing that you say
is is for the people.

1207
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:29,020
It's not, it's not,
but you may feel it is.

1208
01:00:29,380 --> 01:00:31,500
Um, but what I will say is,

1209
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:34,580
right now, so much is happening.

1210
01:00:35,420 --> 01:00:37,740
People are getting
turned into Peters.

1211
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:40,180
Y'all are safe right now.

1212
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:44,220
God allows y'all to navigate
life on a day to day basis,

1213
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:46,180
because he's trying to
give you all a chance.

1214
01:00:46,220 --> 01:00:49,620
Like I told y'all before, on
that day when there's no more

1215
01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:51,140
chances, I'll be there.

1216
01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:53,300
I'll be there for the sinner.

1217
01:00:53,740 --> 01:00:55,140
All this is spiritual.

1218
01:00:55,380 --> 01:00:58,670
I'm speaking of parables, and
I need y'all to understand this

1219
01:00:58,670 --> 01:01:00,830
is something that you don't
want to mess around with.

1220
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:02,950
Because when that day comes and
we don't know when it's going

1221
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:06,150
to happen, but just know
when it does happen.

1222
01:01:06,430 --> 01:01:07,470
I'll be there.

1223
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:11,670
And a lot of us who actually
represent the Most High.

1224
01:01:11,710 --> 01:01:12,350
So.

1225
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:18,630
With that being said,
I want to sit here and

1226
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:21,550
tell people who have gone

1227
01:01:21,550 --> 01:01:23,150
through this,
please do not fret.

1228
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:24,190
Do not worry.

1229
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:27,470
You got people who represent
and say that they're leaders,

1230
01:01:27,470 --> 01:01:31,590
but yet they pray to people and
worship with Joel saying, you

1231
01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:33,150
know, and there's
nothing against him.

1232
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:36,910
But the thing is, you always
work goes deeper than just some

1233
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:40,390
scripture that people
come on TV and talk about.

1234
01:01:40,790 --> 01:01:43,150
So I want y'all to
know it's not a game.

1235
01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:46,150
Get deep into your word
because it's coming closer.

1236
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:48,430
Closer. You know, neither
one of y'all know what your

1237
01:01:48,430 --> 01:01:52,270
spirit's a spiritual time clock
expires, but when it expires,

1238
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:54,190
none of this is going to matter.

1239
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:57,310
Laura McLaughlin.

1240
01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:10,790
Jordan Richardson.

1241
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:13,590
Colin. Lewis.

1242
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:18,310
Jaylen. See bronze
and a list of others.

1243
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:21,750
Jordan was 14 years old.

1244
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,750
He was an eighth grader.

1245
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:29,350
I just want that to sit for
just a second because I there

1246
01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:32,590
was a news article and I read
some really horrible stuff in

1247
01:02:32,590 --> 01:02:33,510
the comments.

1248
01:02:33,590 --> 01:02:35,470
But at the end of the day,

1249
01:02:35,790 --> 01:02:39,510
Jordan was a 14 year
old eighth grader.

1250
01:02:41,350 --> 01:02:43,750
Um, I also want to speak about

1251
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:47,590
how I'm against
the Save program.

1252
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:52,670
If you already have a community
that fears your police

1253
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:58,550
Department, and you're sending
police to speak to people who

1254
01:02:58,590 --> 01:03:00,510
you are profiling

1255
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:04,510
that they're doing
illegal activities.

1256
01:03:04,910 --> 01:03:08,390
Well, you're not going to reach
them with a police officer.

1257
01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:13,230
The community fears the
police out in Aurora.

1258
01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:17,310
When they call the police,
they're calling CDot to get

1259
01:03:17,310 --> 01:03:21,110
some backup because the police
don't know how to act until

1260
01:03:21,110 --> 01:03:23,070
somebody has them on camera.

1261
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:28,430
So trying to reach youth
through the police isn't going

1262
01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:31,350
to work because you're youth.

1263
01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:37,150
Are George Elwes friends
that watched him murdered.

1264
01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:38,590
It's on camera.

1265
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:41,350
They're all about to be seniors

1266
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:43,630
this year.

1267
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:44,910
George l should have been a

1268
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:47,350
senior starting his senior year.

1269
01:03:47,350 --> 01:03:51,910
So the children that you're
trying to reach or supposedly

1270
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:54,550
are trying to reach
with the save program.

1271
01:03:54,990 --> 01:03:59,470
Is it not going to work
using your police officers?

1272
01:04:00,910 --> 01:04:03,070
You're not going to
reach these kids?

1273
01:04:03,390 --> 01:04:05,670
Not with the police officers.

1274
01:04:06,510 --> 01:04:08,950
And I have another question.

1275
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:11,990
As the city leaders,

1276
01:04:13,630 --> 01:04:20,310
how can we measure the way
the community feels about your

1277
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:21,550
police department?

1278
01:04:22,110 --> 01:04:27,350
How can we move forward
in fixing what is broken?

1279
01:04:27,870 --> 01:04:31,910
Because you keep hearing family
members, and you might not like

1280
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:35,190
the way they come about it or
the words they say, but they're

1281
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:38,150
in pain because of
what's happened.

1282
01:04:38,430 --> 01:04:41,670
How can we fix what is broken?

1283
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:47,630
Because the police department's
known around the nation for

1284
01:04:47,630 --> 01:04:50,110
killing black folks.

1285
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:55,190
How can we fix it?

1286
01:04:55,230 --> 01:04:59,030
Is my question to
the city leaders.

1287
01:04:59,590 --> 01:05:05,350
Because it's obviously I mean,
the Denver Post just said five

1288
01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:08,910
homicides is the way
that it was listed.

1289
01:05:09,150 --> 01:05:11,710
How do you fix Aurora's name?

1290
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:20,390
That was the last individual.

1291
01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:26,230
Mayor. Can I request
a brief recess?

1292
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:27,430
Very well.

1293
01:05:27,870 --> 01:05:30,710
The time is now 705.

1294
01:05:31,150 --> 01:05:32,590
We will stand in recess.

1295
01:05:32,590 --> 01:05:35,430
Tell us we 15 minutes.

1296
01:05:35,470 --> 01:05:35,750
Is that.

1297
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:36,310
Okay?

1298
01:05:36,550 --> 01:05:37,030
Ten minutes.

1299
01:05:37,110 --> 01:05:37,590
Tell us.

1300
01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:38,790
Seven. 15.

1301
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,320
The regular meeting of the
Aurora City Council for Monday,

1302
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,920
August 10th, 2026 is called
and called back to order.

1303
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,920
Um. Motion is in order for
the adoption of the consent

1304
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,440
calendar on motions item
number ten C1 to ten C3.

1305
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,560
Uh, I'm sorry,
Councilmember Hager.

1306
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,440
I might like to call 1185.

1307
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,280
We're just doing.

1308
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:20,760
We're just doing ten right now.

1309
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:21,520
Ten?

1310
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,280
Yeah. So ten a ten C one 310 C3.

1311
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:26,400
Just need a motion on that.

1312
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,120
Okay, fine.

1313
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,040
Motion is in order.

1314
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,040
A move that we adopt ten.

1315
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,240
See one through ten.

1316
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,720
C3 okay.

1317
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,760
It's been moved by
Councilmember Hancock to adopt

1318
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,080
the consent calendar
and motions.

1319
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,560
Tennessee one to Tennessee
three and seconded by mayor.

1320
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:44,160
Second.

1321
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,920
Second by Mayor Pro Tem.

1322
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:46,840
Discussion.

1323
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,480
Seeing no discussion over the
question on the adoption of the

1324
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:53,360
consent calendar on motions.

1325
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,960
Item number Tennessee
one to Tennessee three.

1326
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Mayor. Kaufman.

1327
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,920
Mayor. Vote yes.

1328
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,120
Katie, I'm a yes.

1329
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,360
I'm logging back
into East right now.

1330
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,560
Okay. Thank you.

1331
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,840
The motion passes unanimously
to adopt the consent calendar

1332
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:08,840
for motions.

1333
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,840
A motion is in order on
the adoption of the consent

1334
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,960
calendar and resolutions and
ordinances 11 A1 to 11 b two.

1335
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:22,960
Mayor.

1336
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,800
Um. Councilmember Hancock.

1337
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,680
I'd like to pull
11, 1185 and 1186.

1338
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,800
So we need a motion first to
approve the consent agenda 1101

1339
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,160
through 1132 and then you
can pull the specific item.

1340
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,560
So we need the motion first.

1341
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,160
Okay.

1342
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,930
So are you moving to approve
the consent agenda from 1101 to

1343
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:42,960
11 B2?

1344
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,200
Yes. And we need a second.

1345
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:44,720
First.

1346
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:45,200
Mayor.

1347
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:45,880
Second.

1348
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:47,680
Second by Councilmember Lawson.

1349
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,560
Okay. Now you can call
Councilmember Hancock again.

1350
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,400
Councilmember Hancock.

1351
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,000
All right.

1352
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,920
Now, once more, a
feeling we will.

1353
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,760
I'd like to pull 1185 and 1186.

1354
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:58,920
Okay.

1355
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,520
So now the consent agenda is
118, 11, eight, one through 11,

1356
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:04,680
eight, four and 11.

1357
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,040
B1 11 B2

1358
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,480
further discussion.

1359
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,320
We have individuals who would
like to speak on items 11 A1

1360
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,960
and 11 B2.

1361
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,960
Oh very well.

1362
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,600
First individual for item 11 A1
is Agent Anderson, followed by

1363
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,720
Mahdi and Schaffner.

1364
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:30,680
So do we not?

1365
01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:35,600
So we still have the motion.

1366
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,720
Councilmember Burger now we're
just hearing public comment on

1367
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,520
those that signed up for the

1368
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,080
items that are still on consent.

1369
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,760
I believe that all I have to
say is we just need to be able

1370
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,200
to uplift the testimony
of Miss Della Jordan.

1371
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:59,480
I think that she has given
you an insight to what she is

1372
01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:01,760
witnessing at the Aurora
Navigation Center, and why

1373
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,840
accountability
metrics are important.

1374
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:09,160
And so I don't need to belabor
you all on what she has said.

1375
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,120
Week after week after week, I
would just ask that while you

1376
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,600
make this decision and why you
make this vote, that you take

1377
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,840
into the words of what Miss
Della Jordan has went through

1378
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,760
consistently for the last few
months, and ask yourselves if

1379
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,120
you are comfortable with the
current standards and the

1380
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,520
conditions of which
this facility is in.

1381
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:32,120
So with the rest of
that, I yield back.

1382
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,680
And I want to just again make
sure that you understand.

1383
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,640
Miss Della Jordan is the reason
why I am encouraging you to

1384
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,560
support this resolution.

1385
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,640
Thank you.

1386
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,400
Madeline Schaffner.

1387
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:55,680
Okay. And then for item 11
B2, we have Hashim Coates.

1388
01:19:27,370 --> 01:19:28,650
I just want to be clear.

1389
01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:30,770
I'm not against technology.

1390
01:19:32,410 --> 01:19:36,650
I'm not against good, ethical,
compassionate, non murderous

1391
01:19:36,690 --> 01:19:37,730
law enforcement.

1392
01:19:37,730 --> 01:19:39,170
And I'm certainly not

1393
01:19:39,170 --> 01:19:41,250
advocating for a
lawless society.

1394
01:19:41,730 --> 01:19:44,810
Again, I want to give a shout
out to Amy Patton for using the

1395
01:19:44,810 --> 01:19:50,090
law for filing charges on the
alleged murderer of the Aurora

1396
01:19:50,130 --> 01:19:54,330
Police Department, officer
Matthew Neely, who took the

1397
01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:56,610
life of Rajan Belt Stubblefield.

1398
01:19:57,210 --> 01:20:00,410
But I am equally opposed
to surveillance society.

1399
01:20:01,250 --> 01:20:02,570
Public safety and civil

1400
01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:04,770
liberties are not
opposing values.

1401
01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:08,450
Good government has an
obligation to protect both.

1402
01:20:09,210 --> 01:20:12,050
Colorado law already says
automated traffic enforcement

1403
01:20:12,050 --> 01:20:16,050
systems should retain data
only when a violation occurs.

1404
01:20:16,090 --> 01:20:19,650
That means that if a law
abiding person drives past one

1405
01:20:19,650 --> 01:20:20,530
of these cameras.

1406
01:20:20,530 --> 01:20:23,450
We should not be
quietly being recorded.

1407
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:25,610
We should not be
quietly being recorded.

1408
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:31,010
Colorado law assuming if that's
Aurora's practice, then put

1409
01:20:31,010 --> 01:20:33,770
that in the ordinance, but

1410
01:20:34,890 --> 01:20:38,970
put it in the vendor's
contract, audit it and make

1411
01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:40,570
violations enforceable.

1412
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:42,610
And please do not tell

1413
01:20:42,650 --> 01:20:45,130
residents it's only
license plates.

1414
01:20:45,770 --> 01:20:47,290
No, license plate is not a

1415
01:20:47,290 --> 01:20:49,210
facial recognition, Aurora says.

1416
01:20:49,210 --> 01:20:49,970
It's separate.

1417
01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:51,690
It separates license plate.

1418
01:20:51,690 --> 01:20:55,450
Readers do not capture faces,
race, gender, ethnicity.

1419
01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:58,770
But when enough time stamp
license plates observations are

1420
01:20:58,770 --> 01:21:04,170
connected together, they can
reveal moment and identity.

1421
01:21:04,210 --> 01:21:04,970
Where did I go?

1422
01:21:05,010 --> 01:21:06,130
What should I attend to?

1423
01:21:06,130 --> 01:21:07,810
What doctor's
office did I visit?

1424
01:21:07,850 --> 01:21:09,130
What protests did I visit?

1425
01:21:09,170 --> 01:21:09,930
Who did I visit?

1426
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:11,090
Whose house did I leave from?

1427
01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:13,490
To end up leaving my wife
and marrying somebody else?

1428
01:21:14,050 --> 01:21:17,930
What closet situation am I
hiding out from it reveals all

1429
01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:21,090
that personal information that
should remain personal, that

1430
01:21:21,090 --> 01:21:22,370
sensitive information.

1431
01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:26,170
And Colorado lawmakers raise
these exact concerns this year

1432
01:21:26,170 --> 01:21:29,330
when considering statewide
restrictions on license plate

1433
01:21:29,330 --> 01:21:30,450
reader databases.

1434
01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:32,650
Um, we don't have to.

1435
01:21:32,890 --> 01:21:36,610
We shouldn't have to imagine
what could happen as it relates

1436
01:21:36,610 --> 01:21:40,450
to immigration
enforcement in Denver.

1437
01:21:40,930 --> 01:21:46,090
License plate data was searched
nearly 1400 times for Ice or

1438
01:21:46,090 --> 01:21:49,810
immigration related purposes by
law enforcement agencies across

1439
01:21:49,810 --> 01:21:50,770
the country.

1440
01:21:51,130 --> 01:21:54,330
Ice didn't even need to direct
access for the systems to

1441
01:21:54,330 --> 01:21:57,370
become useful for
immigration searches.

1442
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:04,170
I really implore you all to
protect, expand upon, but no,

1443
01:22:04,170 --> 01:22:05,050
just protect the Fourth

1444
01:22:05,050 --> 01:22:06,890
Amendment at its
very basic level.

1445
01:22:06,930 --> 01:22:10,850
We have no idea what technology
can do unless you guys are

1446
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:14,650
explicit with them as it
relates to that and put firm

1447
01:22:14,650 --> 01:22:17,570
guidelines into place so
that they can't be used for

1448
01:22:17,570 --> 01:22:18,930
nefarious purposes.

1449
01:22:19,410 --> 01:22:23,330
You have to treat this system
as if our worst enemy will then

1450
01:22:23,330 --> 01:22:26,010
get Ahold of these systems,
and then use it against us, no

1451
01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:27,450
matter what side of the
aisle that you're on.

1452
01:22:27,450 --> 01:22:27,970
On that.

1453
01:22:30,090 --> 01:22:31,810
That was the last individual.

1454
01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:39,610
Okay. The question before
us is the adoption of

1455
01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:44,130
the consent calendar on
resolutions and ordinances,

1456
01:22:44,410 --> 01:22:49,210
with the exception of
item number 1185 and 1186.

1457
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:51,850
Discussion.

1458
01:22:52,250 --> 01:22:52,930
Mayor.

1459
01:22:53,210 --> 01:22:54,130
Mayor. Pro tem.

1460
01:22:54,490 --> 01:23:00,090
Just a question for the
city manager or perhaps APD

1461
01:23:00,130 --> 01:23:05,450
regarding the contract
for the speed cameras.

1462
01:23:06,010 --> 01:23:08,290
Um, do we have clarifications?

1463
01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:10,770
Or maybe this is a question
for the city attorney.

1464
01:23:10,770 --> 01:23:15,130
I'm not sure Regarding kind
of this state legislation,

1465
01:23:15,330 --> 01:23:19,170
compliance with this state
legislation, and collection and

1466
01:23:19,170 --> 01:23:20,690
retention of data.

1467
01:23:20,730 --> 01:23:26,130
So, um, one of the, um, big
changes in the state law, which

1468
01:23:26,130 --> 01:23:30,130
is what this ordinance does, is
it brings us into conformance

1469
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:32,010
with the recent
changes in state law.

1470
01:23:32,410 --> 01:23:35,650
Um, within that and there was
some discussion at the last

1471
01:23:35,650 --> 01:23:36,650
council meeting.

1472
01:23:36,930 --> 01:23:41,210
Um, prior automated vehicle
identification systems included

1473
01:23:41,570 --> 01:23:42,810
a picture of the driver's

1474
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:44,570
license or, excuse
me, of the driver.

1475
01:23:44,570 --> 01:23:47,810
And then there was a, um, a
defense that could be made that

1476
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:48,930
I was not the driver.

1477
01:23:48,930 --> 01:23:51,170
This the person in
the picture is not me.

1478
01:23:51,650 --> 01:23:54,970
Um, so because of that,
the automated vehicle

1479
01:23:54,970 --> 01:23:58,210
identification systems included
a requirement that you needed

1480
01:23:58,210 --> 01:24:00,690
to capture a picture
of the driver.

1481
01:24:00,890 --> 01:24:02,210
With the changes in state law

1482
01:24:02,210 --> 01:24:04,530
that is actually
no longer required.

1483
01:24:04,570 --> 01:24:06,850
Actually no longer allowed.

1484
01:24:06,850 --> 01:24:08,250
So we have already
made that change.

1485
01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:10,930
We're no longer capturing
the picture of the driver.

1486
01:24:11,090 --> 01:24:15,010
Um, and so this now removes
that as an affirmative defense,

1487
01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:16,530
that this brings us
into conformance of law.

1488
01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:18,650
And that's already our
practice, given that the law

1489
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:19,770
has been changed.

1490
01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:23,610
And real quick, this system is
separate from the flock system

1491
01:24:23,610 --> 01:24:25,570
or anything else, the
license plate readers.

1492
01:24:25,570 --> 01:24:27,250
It does not feed into
that information.

1493
01:24:27,250 --> 01:24:29,610
It's completely separate, used
by the vendor only for issuing

1494
01:24:29,610 --> 01:24:30,250
the citations.

1495
01:24:30,250 --> 01:24:34,690
So it is not being kept as part
of trying to document who goes

1496
01:24:34,690 --> 01:24:35,850
by a certain area.

1497
01:24:35,930 --> 01:24:38,170
Okay. And just for
clarification on that.

1498
01:24:38,170 --> 01:24:41,210
So once it's captured,
you're in this place.

1499
01:24:41,210 --> 01:24:42,890
Your citation has been issued.

1500
01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:47,130
That data is only retained for
the purposes of the citation

1501
01:24:47,130 --> 01:24:50,250
and not used in any AI data

1502
01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:52,370
systems or any
other comparisons.

1503
01:24:53,330 --> 01:24:54,370
Deputy city attorney plot.

1504
01:24:54,410 --> 01:24:54,970
That is correct.

1505
01:24:55,010 --> 01:24:55,610
Right?

1506
01:24:55,650 --> 01:24:56,210
That's correct.

1507
01:24:56,250 --> 01:25:00,530
Councilmember. And also, just
for for clarity, it will be

1508
01:25:00,530 --> 01:25:03,650
retained, obviously through the
system throughout any personal

1509
01:25:03,650 --> 01:25:06,490
service and collection
processes that occur that are

1510
01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:09,530
connected with the vendor, but
it's not connected into any of

1511
01:25:09,570 --> 01:25:14,850
LPR, other tools or artificial
intelligence tools that has

1512
01:25:14,850 --> 01:25:15,850
those capabilities.

1513
01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:17,690
Um, sorry.

1514
01:25:17,730 --> 01:25:20,850
And just and within the
contract, because this is one

1515
01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:24,410
item that we've heard about
with respect to the LPR is it's

1516
01:25:24,410 --> 01:25:27,570
also not permitted in the
contract for them to use it for

1517
01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:30,650
any kind of machine learning
systems or any other purposes

1518
01:25:30,650 --> 01:25:33,090
aside from the service
of the citation.

1519
01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:34,410
That's correct.

1520
01:25:34,450 --> 01:25:37,090
Mayor Pro Tem, and we're
updating all the business rules

1521
01:25:37,090 --> 01:25:40,610
to be in accordance with the
current state laws currently

1522
01:25:40,610 --> 01:25:42,090
with varying mobility.

1523
01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:44,330
Okay.

1524
01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:46,850
And my understanding, you,
Mayor Pro tem, is the police

1525
01:25:46,850 --> 01:25:50,250
don't even have access to
search that data at all to see

1526
01:25:50,250 --> 01:25:52,290
who, what vehicles
drive by or whatnot.

1527
01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:54,970
It's only what's on the
FLoC system that they have.

1528
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:58,050
Right. And APD is involvement
even with the system, is going

1529
01:25:58,050 --> 01:26:00,650
to be pretty limited now that
they're not going to be issuing

1530
01:26:00,690 --> 01:26:05,250
the, the, um, the overages for
the six point tickets, because

1531
01:26:05,250 --> 01:26:07,250
that's going to be
automated as well now.

1532
01:26:09,730 --> 01:26:10,490
Thank you.

1533
01:26:13,010 --> 01:26:14,050
Further discussion.

1534
01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:16,370
You can call for the question.

1535
01:26:29,050 --> 01:26:30,450
Councilmember Jackson.

1536
01:26:30,810 --> 01:26:31,370
Thank you.

1537
01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:34,370
The motion passes unanimously
to adopt the consent calendar

1538
01:26:34,370 --> 01:26:36,290
for resolutions and ordinances

1539
01:26:36,290 --> 01:26:39,570
with items 1185
and 1186 removed.

1540
01:26:40,730 --> 01:26:42,930
Now, please read the title
to item number 11 A5.

1541
01:26:42,970 --> 01:26:47,570
Item 11 A5 is resolution 2020
697, directing the City Manager

1542
01:26:47,570 --> 01:26:50,130
to implement data
center regulations.

1543
01:26:50,450 --> 01:26:51,650
Mayor and mayor.

1544
01:26:51,650 --> 01:26:52,890
We do have individuals who

1545
01:26:52,890 --> 01:26:54,410
would like to
speak on this item.

1546
01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:55,930
Very well, city Attorney.

1547
01:26:56,730 --> 01:27:01,290
I'm pretty sure council is very
aware of this, but 1185 and

1548
01:27:01,290 --> 01:27:03,410
1186 are in conflict, obviously.

1549
01:27:03,410 --> 01:27:06,290
So this would not be
a situation where both

1550
01:27:06,290 --> 01:27:09,210
resolutions should pass
because they are in conflict.

1551
01:27:09,210 --> 01:27:11,650
I know you know that, but I'm
just putting it on the record.

1552
01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:13,010
And city attorney.

1553
01:27:13,010 --> 01:27:14,210
Mayor. Point of order.

1554
01:27:14,450 --> 01:27:18,970
Um, our amendments in order
prior to public comment or

1555
01:27:19,770 --> 01:27:21,370
subsequent to public comment.

1556
01:27:21,410 --> 01:27:24,850
So what I would do is let's go
and hear public comment first,

1557
01:27:24,850 --> 01:27:27,930
and then we can have the motion
and then amendments following

1558
01:27:27,970 --> 01:27:29,090
the motion.

1559
01:27:29,210 --> 01:27:29,450
Okay.

1560
01:27:31,690 --> 01:27:33,530
Okay. The first person is Anita

1561
01:27:33,570 --> 01:27:36,410
Kubrick, followed
by Agent Anderson.

1562
01:27:41,730 --> 01:27:42,290
Anita.

1563
01:27:44,850 --> 01:27:47,930
Okay. Agent Anderson, followed
by Medea and Schaffner.

1564
01:27:58,090 --> 01:27:59,050
Excuse my language, but

1565
01:28:00,290 --> 01:28:04,730
I'm so confused on how we
should be given public comment

1566
01:28:04,730 --> 01:28:07,450
before we hear any amendments
or adjustments y'all are going

1567
01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:07,650
to make.

1568
01:28:07,650 --> 01:28:10,370
Because if that is
substantial to what

1569
01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:15,410
if you all are going to make
substantial changes to this

1570
01:28:15,850 --> 01:28:19,050
resolution, then I would
respectfully like to hear what

1571
01:28:19,050 --> 01:28:22,570
you all have to say and then
be able to let you know if I'm

1572
01:28:22,570 --> 01:28:24,930
supportive of it or
not supportive of it.

1573
01:28:25,090 --> 01:28:26,690
I just feel like this

1574
01:28:26,690 --> 01:28:28,730
disenfranchised is
public participation.

1575
01:28:29,330 --> 01:28:31,570
So I mean, feel
free to interrupt.

1576
01:28:31,970 --> 01:28:33,890
I mean, I'll give a point
of order real quick.

1577
01:28:33,890 --> 01:28:37,650
So basically, because the
agenda was published the way it

1578
01:28:37,650 --> 01:28:39,810
was, it's the comments should

1579
01:28:39,810 --> 01:28:41,010
be on all the agendas published.

1580
01:28:41,010 --> 01:28:43,650
And what council should hear
from you is what you think you

1581
01:28:43,650 --> 01:28:47,170
should amend in the in the
document after public comment

1582
01:28:47,170 --> 01:28:49,570
so they can take your comments
to build their amendments.

1583
01:28:49,570 --> 01:28:52,010
I'm sure they have amendments
that they already know that

1584
01:28:52,010 --> 01:28:54,650
they they want to present, but
if they use public comment to

1585
01:28:54,690 --> 01:28:56,610
figure out what else they
should, she should do.

1586
01:28:56,610 --> 01:28:58,290
So this is the appropriate
time for public comment.

1587
01:28:58,290 --> 01:28:59,570
I understand your point, but

1588
01:28:59,610 --> 01:29:00,770
we've got to go off
the open meetings.

1589
01:29:00,820 --> 01:29:03,180
All the agenda was published
24 hours ago, at least.

1590
01:29:03,180 --> 01:29:06,060
And listen, the package should
be the one that's presented.

1591
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:07,660
Well, great.

1592
01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:12,140
Well, I guess I can't really do
too much about my opposition to

1593
01:29:12,180 --> 01:29:14,460
Curtis Gardner's A resolution

1594
01:29:14,460 --> 01:29:16,300
because he never
shows up to work.

1595
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:21,340
And so, I mean, I would say
that I support what council

1596
01:29:21,380 --> 01:29:25,660
member Wales has put forward to
the council because we need to

1597
01:29:25,660 --> 01:29:28,620
make sure that we are not
having data centers just run

1598
01:29:28,620 --> 01:29:30,740
rampant through the city of
Aurora, and you all need to be

1599
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:33,420
coming up with some rules and
regulations into which they are

1600
01:29:33,420 --> 01:29:34,900
supposed to be at the bounds

1601
01:29:34,900 --> 01:29:36,660
that they need to
be operating in.

1602
01:29:36,740 --> 01:29:39,900
Um, and the fact that Curtis
Council Member Gardner, who

1603
01:29:39,940 --> 01:29:42,700
again, doesn't show up to city
council meetings, is offering a

1604
01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:46,620
resolution and at a city
council meeting, and it still

1605
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:49,300
is not here at said city
council meeting, physically

1606
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:50,500
present at a meeting.

1607
01:29:50,740 --> 01:29:54,380
It feels like he's trying to
silence the voice of one of his

1608
01:29:54,380 --> 01:29:55,220
female colleagues.

1609
01:29:55,220 --> 01:29:59,980
But I, I'm I hope that wherever
if he's listening from the home

1610
01:29:59,980 --> 01:30:03,660
of him and Amanda Sawyer, I
hope that he is able to hear

1611
01:30:03,740 --> 01:30:07,660
the concerns that individuals
have about his resolution being

1612
01:30:07,660 --> 01:30:09,020
in direct opposition and

1613
01:30:09,260 --> 01:30:11,420
competition with
council Member Wiles.

1614
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:15,140
So, Council Member Wiles
Resolution, and I hope to

1615
01:30:15,180 --> 01:30:16,580
listen to more of your your

1616
01:30:16,580 --> 01:30:17,860
amendments through this process.

1617
01:30:17,860 --> 01:30:21,460
But this right here, this does
not feel authentic just to just

1618
01:30:21,460 --> 01:30:24,220
to be from this side of the
dais, knowing what it means to

1619
01:30:24,220 --> 01:30:25,260
be an elected official.

1620
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:27,420
If I would have pulled a gotcha
when we were when we were

1621
01:30:27,420 --> 01:30:30,060
debating on the Denver school
board of like, we want to hear

1622
01:30:30,060 --> 01:30:31,220
your concerns, but now we're

1623
01:30:31,220 --> 01:30:32,980
going to pass a
bunch of amendments.

1624
01:30:32,980 --> 01:30:38,060
Our parents would be pissed off
because what you are about to

1625
01:30:38,060 --> 01:30:42,660
do is likely change one of
these two proposals, and we

1626
01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:44,140
will not be able to respond or

1627
01:30:44,140 --> 01:30:46,180
give you our feedback
in real time.

1628
01:30:46,180 --> 01:30:49,100
But we're just supposed to be
like, okay, here's our here's

1629
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:52,500
our opinion beforehand, and
you actually might change

1630
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:54,820
drastically one of the
two of these issues.

1631
01:30:54,820 --> 01:30:56,260
So, Council Member Gardner, I

1632
01:30:56,300 --> 01:30:57,420
hope that you're
listening from you.

1633
01:30:57,420 --> 01:30:58,820
And I saw your home show up.

1634
01:30:58,860 --> 01:30:59,660
Show up to work.

1635
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:00,460
Show up to work.

1636
01:31:01,020 --> 01:31:02,660
You forgot my gavel.

1637
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:07,740
Madison Schaffner,
followed by Aditi Desai.

1638
01:31:10,460 --> 01:31:13,180
Aditi Desai, followed
by Verena Desai.

1639
01:31:36,140 --> 01:31:38,980
Good evening, mayor and
members of city council.

1640
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:41,860
My name is Aditi Desai
and I reside in Aurora.

1641
01:31:41,860 --> 01:31:44,460
And I'm here in favor of 11.8.5.

1642
01:31:45,860 --> 01:31:48,540
I would like to comment on
infrastructure considerations

1643
01:31:48,700 --> 01:31:53,300
associated with large scale
data centers data centers,

1644
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:55,100
particularly those
supporting A.I.

1645
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:58,940
applications can require
substantial electrical capacity

1646
01:31:59,020 --> 01:32:01,700
and supporting utility
infrastructure.

1647
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:06,460
We need to evaluate these
projects in regards to grid

1648
01:32:06,460 --> 01:32:10,500
capacity, transmission
upgrades, long term energy

1649
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:14,300
demand, and how infrastructure
improvements would be planned

1650
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:15,380
and funded.

1651
01:32:15,660 --> 01:32:19,660
In addition to electricity
demand, City Council needs to

1652
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:23,900
examine whether existing
utility systems are prepared to

1653
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:27,780
accommodate future growth while
maintaining reliable services

1654
01:32:27,780 --> 01:32:29,700
for residents and businesses.

1655
01:32:29,860 --> 01:32:32,740
These considerations can
be important for long range

1656
01:32:32,740 --> 01:32:35,380
planning and capital
investment decisions

1657
01:32:36,420 --> 01:32:38,660
as future projects
are evaluated.

1658
01:32:38,740 --> 01:32:41,860
I encourage consideration of
independent infrastructure

1659
01:32:41,860 --> 01:32:45,020
studies and transparent
communication regarding

1660
01:32:45,020 --> 01:32:48,260
anticipated utility needs
well into the future.

1661
01:32:48,340 --> 01:32:52,220
We need to consider long
term sustainability for our

1662
01:32:52,220 --> 01:32:53,780
communities, not just the

1663
01:32:53,780 --> 01:32:56,220
economic benefits
for large companies.

1664
01:32:56,540 --> 01:32:57,780
Thank you for your time.

1665
01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:01,860
I support the six month
moratorium as residential and

1666
01:33:01,860 --> 01:33:04,980
environmental impacts are
further studied prior to

1667
01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:07,820
approval of additional large
scale data centers in Aurora.

1668
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:11,500
I have lived in Aurora for six
years now and hope to continue

1669
01:33:11,540 --> 01:33:12,620
my life here.

1670
01:33:12,740 --> 01:33:16,220
Don't push residents like me
out with quick decisions that

1671
01:33:16,220 --> 01:33:18,780
don't consider neighbors in
our long term well-being.

1672
01:33:18,820 --> 01:33:19,780
Thank you.

1673
01:33:21,780 --> 01:33:22,500
For reading.

1674
01:33:22,540 --> 01:33:23,300
Desai.

1675
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:29,700
Followed by Arvin Martinez.

1676
01:33:38,620 --> 01:33:42,060
Good evening, mayor and
members of the city council.

1677
01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:44,820
My name is Byron Desai.

1678
01:33:45,220 --> 01:33:48,820
I'm a homeowner and
resident of Aurora.

1679
01:33:49,460 --> 01:33:51,980
I'm here for resolution 11.8.5.

1680
01:33:53,820 --> 01:33:56,500
I would like to comment on
neighborhood compatibility

1681
01:33:56,580 --> 01:33:59,700
consideration related to
large scale data centers.

1682
01:34:00,220 --> 01:34:04,020
These facilities often operate
continuously and may include

1683
01:34:04,380 --> 01:34:07,300
cooling equipment,
transformers, backup

1684
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:10,420
generators, and other
infrastructure that can create

1685
01:34:10,820 --> 01:34:12,220
operational noise.

1686
01:34:12,660 --> 01:34:15,980
Some communities have raised
questions about how such

1687
01:34:16,020 --> 01:34:20,460
facilities interact with nearby
residents, area schools, and

1688
01:34:20,460 --> 01:34:21,740
community spaces.

1689
01:34:22,420 --> 01:34:26,260
Additional considerations can
include construction, traffic,

1690
01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:30,100
visual impact building, scale
lighting, and compatibility

1691
01:34:31,220 --> 01:34:33,540
with existing zoning standards.

1692
01:34:34,060 --> 01:34:36,980
Local governments sometimes
review whether current

1693
01:34:36,980 --> 01:34:40,500
development regulations
adequately address the unique

1694
01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:43,660
characteristics of
modern data centers.

1695
01:34:44,220 --> 01:34:46,700
Careful review of
seating standards.

1696
01:34:46,780 --> 01:34:50,940
Set back Landscaping, noise
requirements and community

1697
01:34:50,940 --> 01:34:55,460
input process can help inform
future land use decision.

1698
01:34:56,460 --> 01:34:58,260
Thank you for your
consideration.

1699
01:34:58,740 --> 01:35:00,260
Thank you for your time.

1700
01:35:00,380 --> 01:35:05,500
I support a six month
moratorium as residential and

1701
01:35:05,500 --> 01:35:06,900
environmental impact are

1702
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:08,940
further studied
prior to approval.

1703
01:35:08,980 --> 01:35:12,060
Additional large scale
data centers in Aurora.

1704
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:13,100
Thank you.

1705
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,740
Arvin Martinez, followed
by Hashim Coates.

1706
01:35:23,820 --> 01:35:26,220
Good evening, mayor and
members of the city council.

1707
01:35:26,380 --> 01:35:28,700
My name is Arvin Martinez
and I live in Aurora.

1708
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,620
I would like to address
environmental and resource

1709
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:32,620
planning considerations

1710
01:35:32,620 --> 01:35:34,940
associated with data
center development.

1711
01:35:35,260 --> 01:35:37,820
Depending on their design
and cooling technology, some

1712
01:35:37,820 --> 01:35:40,500
facilities may have
substantial water requirements.

1713
01:35:40,940 --> 01:35:43,900
Water consumption can vary
significantly based on facility

1714
01:35:43,940 --> 01:35:47,780
size, climate conditions, and
type of cooling systems use,

1715
01:35:47,780 --> 01:35:51,700
and considering the drastic
effect that we have had of

1716
01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:55,180
record setting drought and
lack of water and highest

1717
01:35:55,220 --> 01:35:57,420
temperatures recorded in
the United States history.

1718
01:35:57,460 --> 01:36:01,020
We can't afford to spare water
when there was an obviously big

1719
01:36:01,020 --> 01:36:02,500
lack of this resource.

1720
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:05,700
Communities reviewing these
facilities often examine

1721
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:08,820
projected water demand,
conservation practices, and

1722
01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:12,940
potential environmental impacts
in areas where long term water

1723
01:36:12,940 --> 01:36:15,180
management is an
important public concern.

1724
01:36:15,420 --> 01:36:17,340
Decision makers may seek
additional information

1725
01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:20,540
regarding resource use
and mitigation strategies.

1726
01:36:20,540 --> 01:36:24,580
And obviously, I think we
should all take the time to

1727
01:36:24,580 --> 01:36:27,860
consider what what's going
to happen in the near future.

1728
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:31,820
Who's going to be blamed when
there's even less water, and

1729
01:36:31,820 --> 01:36:34,540
neighbors are going to be asked
to sacrifice even more than

1730
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:35,460
they already are?

1731
01:36:36,260 --> 01:36:39,300
The laws that they're trying to
keep green and everything they

1732
01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:40,060
need is a cut.

1733
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:44,940
Considering how the lack of
water is affecting people, very

1734
01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:47,340
little reviews can help provide
greater understanding of how

1735
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:50,100
proposed facility may interact
with local resources, and what

1736
01:36:50,140 --> 01:36:52,540
measures may be available
to reduce impacts.

1737
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:58,340
Ultimately, there is no long
term impact of a simple delay

1738
01:36:58,340 --> 01:37:02,260
in construction, but there are
plenty of reasons to study the

1739
01:37:02,260 --> 01:37:05,300
effects of a data center and
the ability of residents to

1740
01:37:05,300 --> 01:37:06,060
live in Aurora.

1741
01:37:06,980 --> 01:37:11,860
Money can't make more water,
but is unrestrained pursuit of

1742
01:37:11,860 --> 01:37:13,140
money that could lead to a long

1743
01:37:13,180 --> 01:37:14,980
term suffering
for our neighbors?

1744
01:37:15,620 --> 01:37:18,740
Thank you for my
opportunity to speak.

1745
01:37:18,820 --> 01:37:20,260
Thank you for your time.

1746
01:37:20,940 --> 01:37:23,940
I support a six month
moratorium as residential and

1747
01:37:24,460 --> 01:37:27,700
environmental impacts are
further studied prior to

1748
01:37:27,740 --> 01:37:31,820
approval of additional large
scale data centers in Aurora.

1749
01:37:31,940 --> 01:37:33,020
Thank you again.

1750
01:37:36,500 --> 01:37:38,820
Hashim Coates, followed
by Juan Marcano.

1751
01:37:58,660 --> 01:37:59,580
I want to start with something

1752
01:37:59,580 --> 01:38:00,940
that shouldn't be controversial.

1753
01:38:01,620 --> 01:38:06,620
Clean air should not be
partisan, nor should clean

1754
01:38:06,620 --> 01:38:08,660
water be partisan.

1755
01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:13,780
It's wild to me that we both
need water on both sides of the

1756
01:38:13,780 --> 01:38:16,340
aisle for us to tell each other
that the other one is wrong.

1757
01:38:16,620 --> 01:38:19,340
We need clean air to
do that as well too.

1758
01:38:20,220 --> 01:38:24,820
So protecting the ability of
future generations to live,

1759
01:38:24,860 --> 01:38:28,340
breathe, and survive should not
be dependent upon whether you

1760
01:38:28,340 --> 01:38:29,860
are progressive, conservative,

1761
01:38:29,980 --> 01:38:31,980
Democrat, Republican
or independent.

1762
01:38:32,060 --> 01:38:34,940
Those should be our
basic non-negotiables.

1763
01:38:36,140 --> 01:38:39,380
Um, Aurora is currently under
a stage one water drought.

1764
01:38:39,420 --> 01:38:42,990
Our residents are being asked
to conserve water and our

1765
01:38:42,990 --> 01:38:46,230
watering system is
maybe at 50% full.

1766
01:38:46,910 --> 01:38:50,390
We can add, if we ask families
to change how they use water

1767
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:54,230
because conservation is
necessary, then surely we can

1768
01:38:54,230 --> 01:38:56,630
ask some of the wealthiest
corporations in the world to

1769
01:38:56,670 --> 01:39:00,750
wait while the city determines
how resource intensive

1770
01:39:00,750 --> 01:39:02,550
development should be regulated?

1771
01:39:03,470 --> 01:39:05,670
Um, a moratorium is not a ban.

1772
01:39:05,670 --> 01:39:08,470
Even though I would
entertain a band.

1773
01:39:08,830 --> 01:39:11,390
Um, it's the government
basically just saying we make

1774
01:39:11,390 --> 01:39:14,630
decisions that could affect
generations that would possibly

1775
01:39:14,630 --> 01:39:15,590
be irreversible.

1776
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:18,910
We're going to understand the
consequences and write the

1777
01:39:18,910 --> 01:39:20,270
rules first.

1778
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:24,030
Is that that elusive
common sense out there?

1779
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:29,550
Aurora is not alone in this.

1780
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:32,750
Denver has stepped
in and done this.

1781
01:39:33,190 --> 01:39:38,070
Texas has even stepped up and
paused certain new data center

1782
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:42,110
approvals while reviewing
enormous demands that place on

1783
01:39:42,110 --> 01:39:43,310
the electric grid.

1784
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:47,990
One thing that I agree with the
mayor on is the water usage as

1785
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:49,270
it relates to grass.

1786
01:39:49,310 --> 01:39:53,310
I hate grass, I think all
golf course should be banned.

1787
01:39:53,310 --> 01:39:54,590
I think that it should be

1788
01:39:54,590 --> 01:39:56,630
illegal to water
your front yard.

1789
01:39:56,710 --> 01:40:00,430
Um, one grass produces nothing
and two, it's trauma from my

1790
01:40:00,430 --> 01:40:03,310
childhood of having an allergy
and having to cut the yard.

1791
01:40:04,230 --> 01:40:06,350
Some things just go
with me to the grave.

1792
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:09,310
But we need to stop assuming
that just because a corporation

1793
01:40:09,310 --> 01:40:12,630
announces billions of dollars
in capital investment,

1794
01:40:14,350 --> 01:40:16,270
that, um.

1795
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:19,550
Excuse me, a capital investment
that somehow those billions are

1796
01:40:19,550 --> 01:40:20,590
going to trickle down and

1797
01:40:20,590 --> 01:40:23,070
benefit to the
people who live here.

1798
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:26,590
The research does not
support that assumption.

1799
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:29,390
Recent economic research
has found that the typical

1800
01:40:29,390 --> 01:40:33,110
community receiving a major
data center may gain only to

1801
01:40:33,150 --> 01:40:38,750
100, 100 to 200 jobs, with no
measurable increase in wages.

1802
01:40:39,070 --> 01:40:42,630
Capital investment is not the
same as community investment.

1803
01:40:43,150 --> 01:40:47,510
$1 billion building owned by
$1 billion corporation does not

1804
01:40:47,510 --> 01:40:52,230
automatically mean $1 billion
benefits to aurora families.

1805
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:56,550
I believe that there should be
economic growth, but one thing

1806
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:58,910
that we don't need, or
one thing that we do need.

1807
01:40:58,950 --> 01:41:00,590
We need a good environment.

1808
01:41:00,630 --> 01:41:02,550
We don't necessarily
need the data center.

1809
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:06,350
The harm that it's pulling
to our intellectual value as

1810
01:41:06,350 --> 01:41:10,070
Americans who thought we could
go any lower, keep coming up

1811
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:11,950
with making things easier for

1812
01:41:11,950 --> 01:41:14,110
people not to think
we'll have it.

1813
01:41:14,110 --> 01:41:16,950
And also, what's not spoken
about is that these data

1814
01:41:16,990 --> 01:41:20,550
centers are actually
mining information.

1815
01:41:20,630 --> 01:41:22,390
The observation centers.

1816
01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:31,590
Juan Marcano, followed
by Chad Johnson.

1817
01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:42,190
Good evening again.

1818
01:41:42,710 --> 01:41:45,390
My name is Juan Marcano and
I'm a resident of Ward four.

1819
01:41:45,550 --> 01:41:48,150
I want to begin by thanking
Councilmember Wiles for the

1820
01:41:48,150 --> 01:41:51,710
hard work and thorough research
that she's done on Llms data

1821
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:55,070
centers and the socio economic
impacts of this industry, and

1822
01:41:55,070 --> 01:41:57,790
for being very responsive to
the needs of her constituency.

1823
01:41:57,830 --> 01:42:00,910
Since she's been elected
to the Ward two seat.

1824
01:42:01,230 --> 01:42:03,150
Issues like these are a rarity

1825
01:42:03,150 --> 01:42:05,190
in our politics,
especially today.

1826
01:42:05,470 --> 01:42:08,830
Concerns about the impacts of
high powered data centers and

1827
01:42:08,830 --> 01:42:12,310
the impacts that they have on
noise, emissions, water supply,

1828
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:14,790
water quality, energy costs.

1829
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:19,390
And I want to underline and
italicize energy costs here in

1830
01:42:19,390 --> 01:42:23,710
Colorado, as the public
utilities Corporation or the

1831
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:27,030
PUC is not going to protect
us from the impacts of these

1832
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:31,550
facilities will have, but also
the impacts on wildlife, on

1833
01:42:31,550 --> 01:42:34,830
employment and unemployment
generated by people adopting

1834
01:42:34,830 --> 01:42:36,510
this nascent technology.

1835
01:42:36,670 --> 01:42:39,310
Sowing misinformation and more.

1836
01:42:40,350 --> 01:42:44,270
Despite all of these things,
we have broad support amongst

1837
01:42:44,270 --> 01:42:47,710
cross-generational bipartisan
lines on this issue.

1838
01:42:48,110 --> 01:42:49,910
I also appreciate the
distinction that this

1839
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:53,510
resolution draws between small
scale facilities that serve as

1840
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:56,270
the backbone of the internet,
and high power facilities that

1841
01:42:56,270 --> 01:43:00,310
are used for llms to scrape and
steal the collective output of

1842
01:43:00,310 --> 01:43:02,870
humanity for the purpose
of creating, to quote, tech

1843
01:43:02,910 --> 01:43:05,910
oligarchy and likely
sociopath Sam Altman.

1844
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:09,510
A future where intelligence is
a utility like electricity or

1845
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:12,230
water, and people buy
it from us on a meter.

1846
01:43:12,670 --> 01:43:15,910
Dystopian does not begin to
describe the intent that he and

1847
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:17,870
his contemporaries
are espousing.

1848
01:43:18,110 --> 01:43:21,190
This body is charged with
protecting life, health,

1849
01:43:21,190 --> 01:43:24,350
property, and the general
welfare of Aurora.

1850
01:43:24,590 --> 01:43:27,310
And this resolution and
the accompanying ordinance

1851
01:43:27,310 --> 01:43:29,550
ordinance does just that.

1852
01:43:29,710 --> 01:43:32,390
It provides the city with the
time to thoroughly evaluate and

1853
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:35,390
craft a set of protections
for aurora and guidelines for

1854
01:43:35,390 --> 01:43:37,990
industry to follow as this
bubble continues to inflate.

1855
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:41,430
And it is a bubble, and when it
eventually pops, I suspect it

1856
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:42,110
will pop soon.

1857
01:43:42,110 --> 01:43:44,470
Because we're three years into
this frenzy and there is still

1858
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:46,870
no path to profitability
for this industry.

1859
01:43:47,230 --> 01:43:50,430
Our city will be well served by
the regulatory framework that

1860
01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:53,830
will follow, and it will not
leave Ward two with the burden

1861
01:43:53,870 --> 01:43:56,750
of abandoned warehouses
next to people's homes.

1862
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:59,110
I want to thank you again,
Council Member Wiles, for your

1863
01:43:59,110 --> 01:44:01,670
work, and I encourage the
council to support this

1864
01:44:01,670 --> 01:44:04,030
resolution and her ordinance
for the moratorium.

1865
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:04,790
Thank you.

1866
01:44:06,710 --> 01:44:09,430
Chad Johnson, followed
by Kristin Mallory.

1867
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:20,470
Good evening.

1868
01:44:20,670 --> 01:44:21,790
My name is Chad Johnson.

1869
01:44:21,790 --> 01:44:24,190
I'm a resident of Ward four.

1870
01:44:24,350 --> 01:44:27,830
I want to be clear, the
residents of Aurora do not want

1871
01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:29,670
data centers in our communities.

1872
01:44:29,670 --> 01:44:32,430
I don't want data
centers in my community.

1873
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:36,870
This sentiment transcends
political ideology, background,

1874
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:38,030
and neighborhood.

1875
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:40,990
You will not find a single
polled group that has a

1876
01:44:40,990 --> 01:44:42,470
majority support for data

1877
01:44:42,510 --> 01:44:44,590
centers in their
neighborhoods nationwide.

1878
01:44:45,590 --> 01:44:47,030
A much less year in Aurora.

1879
01:44:48,110 --> 01:44:50,230
There are a few things that
are as consequential to our

1880
01:44:50,230 --> 01:44:51,630
community as this one.

1881
01:44:51,830 --> 01:44:53,910
With record shortages of rain.

1882
01:44:53,950 --> 01:44:57,430
Our reservoirs are depleted and
Xcel Energy already raising our

1883
01:44:57,430 --> 01:45:01,030
rates in route to roughly 1
billion in profits in 2025.

1884
01:45:01,510 --> 01:45:05,070
We do not want or need another
thirsty and power hungry

1885
01:45:05,070 --> 01:45:08,430
technology competing with
Aurora residents for basic

1886
01:45:08,430 --> 01:45:10,670
needs like water
and electricity.

1887
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:14,550
We don't want their massive
amounts of pollution either.

1888
01:45:14,630 --> 01:45:17,710
The new Amazon data center
in Texas is set to become the

1889
01:45:17,710 --> 01:45:20,990
single largest CO2 pollution
emitter in the entire country,

1890
01:45:20,990 --> 01:45:23,590
at 33 million tons
of CO2 a year.

1891
01:45:24,110 --> 01:45:25,790
We don't want even a tiny

1892
01:45:25,790 --> 01:45:27,630
fraction of that here in Aurora,

1893
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:31,670
data centers have also been
found to pollute nearby water

1894
01:45:31,670 --> 01:45:35,350
sources, pollute air
surrounding the facility, and

1895
01:45:35,350 --> 01:45:38,430
creating a persistent noise
disturbance 24 over seven to

1896
01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:41,830
those that live nearby in
dozens of municipalities.

1897
01:45:42,710 --> 01:45:45,430
They are also a source
of environmental racism.

1898
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:47,950
Several studies have found
that their construction and

1899
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:51,790
operation disproportionately
impacts people of color.

1900
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:55,430
For those on this council
that think a couple of token

1901
01:45:55,430 --> 01:45:58,910
standards would make it okay,
or if the size of a data center

1902
01:45:58,910 --> 01:46:02,350
is limited, that it would in
turn make it permissible, they

1903
01:46:02,350 --> 01:46:03,670
are sorely mistaken.

1904
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:06,870
I want to remind you that
the average medium sized data

1905
01:46:06,910 --> 01:46:11,710
center uses somewhere between
300,000 and 500,000 gallons of

1906
01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:12,950
water a day,

1907
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:15,230
just one day.

1908
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:19,990
That's that equates to almost
110 million, uh, between 110

1909
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:23,670
million and 182 million gallons
a year, an amount we cannot

1910
01:46:23,670 --> 01:46:25,910
spare, especially
for a bubble like AI.

1911
01:46:26,710 --> 01:46:28,630
Once again, I want to be clear.

1912
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:30,430
Data centers are a menace.

1913
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:32,270
The residents of Aurora do not

1914
01:46:32,270 --> 01:46:34,110
want data centers
here in our community.

1915
01:46:34,110 --> 01:46:36,910
I urge you to put a moratorium
in place immediately.

1916
01:46:36,910 --> 01:46:37,750
Thank you.

1917
01:46:38,910 --> 01:46:39,310
Sir.

1918
01:46:41,950 --> 01:46:45,630
Kristen Mallory, followed
by Kathleen Peterson.

1919
01:46:54,350 --> 01:46:55,150
Hello, Council.

1920
01:46:55,150 --> 01:46:56,950
Kristen Mallory, Ward three.

1921
01:46:57,390 --> 01:46:59,910
First of all, everyone here
said all the things that I was

1922
01:46:59,910 --> 01:47:00,510
going to say.

1923
01:47:00,510 --> 01:47:05,190
So I'm not going to repeat
those, but this is probably the

1924
01:47:05,190 --> 01:47:10,150
most important issue that you
guys are taking up right now.

1925
01:47:10,190 --> 01:47:14,630
Like this will determine
the future generation.

1926
01:47:14,670 --> 01:47:17,990
I don't many of you know, I
don't have kids, but many of

1927
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:18,630
you do.

1928
01:47:18,630 --> 01:47:24,640
And their water access to
water, their electricity cost

1929
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,920
is going to depend partially on
what you decide right now and

1930
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,960
what you decide in
these next six months.

1931
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,760
Now, I'm so impressed by the
work that Amy is doing because

1932
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,600
she didn't just say no, never.

1933
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,000
She said no, not for six months
while we figure this out.

1934
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,520
That's really good governance.

1935
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:46,680
Let us put like take time to
put policies in place that make

1936
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,720
sure that the next generation
is protected and the next

1937
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:53,080
generation after that, and the
next generation after that.

1938
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:57,160
Because our reservoirs
are dry, our air is dirty.

1939
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:58,880
Our electricity, our

1940
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,120
electricity is
already expensive.

1941
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,040
It is too much.

1942
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:09,000
And so it's really just part of
me is really disappointing or

1943
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:12,000
disappointed that we're going
to have industry come up here

1944
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,000
and tell you why they
need this for business.

1945
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,280
And then we have community
always telling you like just

1946
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,400
pause and make sure we're
doing it the right way.

1947
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,280
And this is what it always
comes down to every single

1948
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:26,760
time, and it would be really
nice if industry for once

1949
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,760
didn't think about the dollar
in their pocket, but thought

1950
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,760
about the dollar in their
grandkids pocket and the earth

1951
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,280
that they're going to inherit.

1952
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,320
So I feel very strongly about

1953
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,520
this, that six months
is so reasonable.

1954
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,040
And like Hashem, I wish that
we would do a moratorium, but

1955
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,840
that's like a ban forever.

1956
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,720
But that's not the
world we live in.

1957
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:53,080
Um, so the moratorium does give
council something an incredibly

1958
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,200
important time, time to study
the water impacts, time to

1959
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,800
understand the electrical
infrastructure demands, time to

1960
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,480
establish meaningful
environmental standards.

1961
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,760
Time, time to determine who's
going to pay for this, who's

1962
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,440
going to pay for this
infrastructure, and time to

1963
01:49:09,440 --> 01:49:12,080
ensure that our zoning and
development policies reflect

1964
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,920
the reality of
this new industry.

1965
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,000
With all that being said, my
brother wanted me to leave you

1966
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:19,240
with this quote.

1967
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,240
Love is abundant like an ocean.

1968
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:24,080
But you know what isn't?

1969
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,400
Water that runs out.

1970
01:49:26,440 --> 01:49:27,320
Thank you.

1971
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:30,800
Kathleen Peterson.

1972
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,200
Followed by Christopher Fellows.

1973
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:39,040
Hello.

1974
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,600
I'm a resident of Aurora.

1975
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:43,640
Um, I.

1976
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,600
Live in Heather Ridge.

1977
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:52,920
Um, I went outside my door,
and, uh, my electrical box was

1978
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:54,960
wrapped in artwork.

1979
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:56,800
Well, they call it artwork.

1980
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,400
I call it graffiti.

1981
01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:00,520
I think it's very ugly.

1982
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,760
Uh, it looks like graffiti.

1983
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:11,360
And, um, once, uh, somebody
ran over the electrical boxes.

1984
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:15,440
So these are brand new
electrical boxes that I have,

1985
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:18,200
and they were, you
know, Very nice.

1986
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:19,400
They were gray.

1987
01:50:19,480 --> 01:50:25,400
They matched the, uh, the, uh,
sidewalks and the environment

1988
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:30,880
around the plants, and and it
even matched my house, which a

1989
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,920
townhome which is
right behind it.

1990
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:40,280
And now I have to look at it
looks like a big billboard.

1991
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:45,720
And, I mean, they never showed
up before, but they do now.

1992
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:52,200
And, um, so I called Aurora,
and, I mean, these guys were

1993
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,400
out wrapping it up, and I asked
him if they had permission and

1994
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,120
they said yes, that
they worked for Aurora.

1995
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:01,680
So I ran in and then
I, uh, they said no.

1996
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:06,040
So I ran back out, and then
they said, no, we really don't

1997
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,440
work for Aurora.

1998
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:09,840
Uh, but we do have this company.

1999
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:13,720
And then later, uh, come
to find out, they did have

2000
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:18,520
permission, uh, that, uh,
they're going to wrap all the

2001
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,240
electrical boxes in Aurora.

2002
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,280
Uh, I was I'm depressed.

2003
01:51:25,480 --> 01:51:30,240
I mean, I look out on my patio
and I am very, very depressed.

2004
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,160
It looks like a big
billboard out there.

2005
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:37,440
And, uh, if you want to look,
uh, you know, drive by on Yale

2006
01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:43,240
and, uh, South Xanadu way right
there at the golf course, there

2007
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:48,960
is this big electrical box that
are two big electrical boxes

2008
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,200
that look like graffiti.

2009
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:54,760
And I think it's going to
encourage, uh, graffiti.

2010
01:51:55,400 --> 01:52:02,120
Um, and I since have learned
that, uh, I guess Highlands

2011
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:03,480
Ranch has done this.

2012
01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:05,360
Denver has done this.

2013
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:09,560
And I guess is I'm not sure
if this is going to be a new

2014
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:13,000
policy, but I think it's
going to make Aurora ugly.

2015
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:19,880
I think if you want to beautify
Aurora, I think you should, uh,

2016
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,160
plant more trees or
bushes or flowers.

2017
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,320
But this.

2018
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,840
It looks like kiddie land.

2019
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,080
It looks like kiddie land.

2020
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:29,680
It belongs in the zoo.

2021
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:35,960
Or it belongs maybe outside a
library where there's a, um, a

2022
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,760
little fountain or something
like that for kids to play in.

2023
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:45,360
Anyway, I hope you will
consider taking that off the

2024
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,200
plate and not doing that.

2025
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:51,920
And I hope you'll take the
wrappings off my my boxes.

2026
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:52,880
Thank you.

2027
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,480
Christopher Fellowes,
followed by Nicholas Biden.

2028
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,200
Okay. If you give me
your contact information.

2029
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:00,000
Yes.

2030
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,080
Christopher, fellows.

2031
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,720
Okay. Nicholas Biden.

2032
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:14,640
Okay. That was the
last individual.

2033
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,520
Motions that were
a presentation.

2034
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,440
Brief presentation by staff.

2035
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:24,480
Mayor.

2036
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:26,320
Mayor. Councilmember.

2037
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:26,840
Wiles.

2038
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,040
Yeah. I just wanted to read
something really quick.

2039
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,120
Um, so when I announced I would
be bringing this resolution

2040
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:36,200
forward, I was quickly told
by some business partners and

2041
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,600
others who didn't ask me any
questions, but rather made a

2042
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,000
lot of assumptions that
I must be anti-business.

2043
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,160
This resolution is
not anti-business.

2044
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,440
It's pro responsible business,

2045
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:50,080
and most importantly,
it's pro community.

2046
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:52,920
I want businesses
to come to Aurora.

2047
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,120
I want them to invest in
Aurora, create jobs here, build

2048
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:57,200
and succeed here.

2049
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,760
But I also believe those
businesses should be good

2050
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:03,240
partners to our residents who
raise families here, own homes

2051
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,760
here, and who are building
their futures here.

2052
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,680
When we make decisions that
fundamentally affect their

2053
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,560
neighborhoods, we have a
responsibility to ensure our

2054
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,200
regulations keep up with the
changing landscape of the

2055
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:17,440
world, and that's what
this resolution is about.

2056
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,320
This is not a vote against
development or growth.

2057
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,520
It's a vote for getting
our rules right.

2058
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,920
We have areas of the city that
could easily accommodate easily

2059
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,440
accommodate these centers once

2060
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,920
rules are established,
a tech spaceport.

2061
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:32,800
So why are we so determined to

2062
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,480
put them in the middle
of neighborhoods?

2063
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,440
Some of the conversations I've

2064
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,120
had since announcing
this resolution.

2065
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,320
So exactly why these
changes matter.

2066
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,760
Representatives from a large
international company whose

2067
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:47,240
projects won't even be affected
by these changes reached out to

2068
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,880
me to say, what can we do
to be better partners to the

2069
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,640
community and make them more
comfortable with our center

2070
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:53,480
being here?

2071
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,920
We have a meeting next week
to continue that conversation.

2072
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,800
Developers whose projects
won't be subject to these

2073
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,240
requirements have told me we

2074
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:04,680
still want to do
the right thing.

2075
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,000
How can we make our sites
more community Friendly.

2076
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,280
That's the kind of partnership
that we should want in Aurora.

2077
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:15,120
Responsible businesses should
not be afraid of responsible

2078
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,480
standards, and responsible
government should not be afraid

2079
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:19,800
to set those standards.

2080
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,080
For months, city staff and
I have been doing this work

2081
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:27,320
meeting regularly, hosting town
halls, conducting side visits,

2082
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,520
researching best practices,
talking with residents and

2083
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,440
walking neighborhoods to
understand the real impacts and

2084
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:34,560
listen to concerns.

2085
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,080
And through that work, we've
discovered that our current

2086
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:42,400
CDOs simply were not written
with today's hyperscale data

2087
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:43,520
centers in mind.

2088
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,680
In fact, months into this work,
we just learned this past week

2089
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:51,000
that they can, in some
instances, fall under the same

2090
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,880
zoning framework as schools.

2091
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,200
That wasn't intentional, but
it shows how urgently our

2092
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,040
regulations need to catch up.

2093
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,480
Other communities are already
learning from these lessons.

2094
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,560
I spoke with leaders in Loudoun
County, one of the world's

2095
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,360
largest data center hubs, and
they are now redesigning all of

2096
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,560
their guidelines because they
realized that what they have in

2097
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,640
place does not work
for a community.

2098
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,640
They are changing regulations
for every data center to be

2099
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,520
considered special use and
requiring public hearing.

2100
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,800
Something that I didn't
even consider adding.

2101
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,120
They're changing neighborhood
buffers and they're considering

2102
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:27,040
a moratorium.

2103
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,560
According to a 2026 study.

2104
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,760
Homes within a quarter mile to
a half mile of these hyperscale

2105
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,880
centers have the potential
to lose value by 6 to 7%.

2106
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:39,440
I wouldn't want that to happen
to my home that I worked so

2107
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,640
hard to get, and we shouldn't
accept it possibly happening to

2108
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:45,720
our community members homes,
especially when we have

2109
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,960
available alternative sites.

2110
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,640
A temporary pause allows us
to learn from communities like

2111
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,080
Loudon, Aurora, Illinois and
others to make sure we don't

2112
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,240
repeat their mistakes and we
learn from their successes.

2113
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:02,320
We have hundreds of acres out
East land intended for tech

2114
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,730
uses, far from homes,
far from schools.

2115
01:57:05,730 --> 01:57:08,490
That is far more appropriate
and responsible placement for

2116
01:57:08,490 --> 01:57:09,890
large data centers.

2117
01:57:09,930 --> 01:57:11,970
We're asked to be good partners.

2118
01:57:12,090 --> 01:57:15,850
We ask our community members
to be good partners, even at a

2119
01:57:15,850 --> 01:57:17,170
potential detriment to their

2120
01:57:17,170 --> 01:57:19,890
own home value or
taxes they pay.

2121
01:57:19,970 --> 01:57:22,930
And in turn, asking data
centers to be good community

2122
01:57:22,930 --> 01:57:25,290
partners shouldn't be
too much of an ask.

2123
01:57:25,530 --> 01:57:28,570
That being said, I'll call out
a thank you to Danielle for

2124
01:57:28,570 --> 01:57:29,970
proactively reaching out to me

2125
01:57:30,010 --> 01:57:32,050
regarding the data
center she represents.

2126
01:57:32,330 --> 01:57:36,530
She didn't assume what was in
this resolution, and said she

2127
01:57:36,530 --> 01:57:39,290
sought to understand and then
ask for feedback on how they

2128
01:57:39,290 --> 01:57:41,610
could be good
community partners.

2129
01:57:41,730 --> 01:57:44,610
Also, to our development
partners who reached out to ask

2130
01:57:44,610 --> 01:57:47,530
questions of me over the past
few days, I appreciate your

2131
01:57:47,530 --> 01:57:50,050
engagement and your desire to
do right by the neighborhoods

2132
01:57:50,050 --> 01:57:53,370
you're building, the desire to
get correct information and not

2133
01:57:53,370 --> 01:57:54,370
make assumptions.

2134
01:57:54,370 --> 01:57:57,290
And to the hundreds of
residents who outreach over the

2135
01:57:57,290 --> 01:57:58,450
weekend in various ways.

2136
01:57:58,450 --> 01:58:00,570
Thank you for your
feedback and support.

2137
01:58:00,650 --> 01:58:04,090
To be clear, those who didn't
reach out, what this resolution

2138
01:58:04,090 --> 01:58:05,090
is and what it isn't.

2139
01:58:05,130 --> 01:58:06,410
It's temporary.

2140
01:58:06,850 --> 01:58:08,810
It doesn't affect
active development.

2141
01:58:08,810 --> 01:58:11,290
It's not anti-business
or anti progress.

2142
01:58:11,410 --> 01:58:14,450
It's simply an act to get the
things right before we're two

2143
01:58:14,450 --> 01:58:15,810
down the road.

2144
01:58:15,810 --> 01:58:17,290
I believe we can balance

2145
01:58:17,290 --> 01:58:18,970
community needs
with business needs.

2146
01:58:18,970 --> 01:58:22,330
And this resolution gives us
a chance to do exactly that.

2147
01:58:23,490 --> 01:58:24,290
Thanks.

2148
01:58:26,010 --> 01:58:30,250
Um representation by staff
or do you think it's covered?

2149
01:58:32,010 --> 01:58:34,290
City manager, do you
want to take this on or.

2150
01:58:34,610 --> 01:58:35,490
Councilman, I can give.

2151
01:58:35,490 --> 01:58:38,410
A brief presentation
just for the audience.

2152
01:58:38,410 --> 01:58:42,890
And so folks understand how we
currently regulate, um, videos.

2153
01:58:42,890 --> 01:58:44,370
I think that will be germane to

2154
01:58:44,410 --> 01:58:46,370
both the two
resolutions coming up.

2155
01:58:46,370 --> 01:58:52,290
Uh, so currently, uh, data
centers are defined use in the

2156
01:58:52,810 --> 01:58:55,410
city's zoning and
land use codes.

2157
01:58:55,450 --> 01:58:57,570
Those allow the zoning
districts where they are

2158
01:58:57,570 --> 01:59:00,810
allowed include I1
industrial one I.

2159
01:59:00,850 --> 01:59:01,570
Two. Industrial.

2160
01:59:01,610 --> 01:59:03,170
Two. Airport.

2161
01:59:03,410 --> 01:59:04,610
District or aid.

2162
01:59:04,970 --> 01:59:08,530
As well as the Airport
Protection Zone or APC, also

2163
01:59:08,530 --> 01:59:10,490
known as the crash
zone around Buckley.

2164
01:59:10,770 --> 01:59:14,570
And then finally they are
allowed in mixed use, um, uh,

2165
01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:16,770
office institutional use.

2166
01:59:16,770 --> 01:59:19,570
And so those are the five
zone districts where they are

2167
01:59:19,570 --> 01:59:20,490
allowed as a use by.

2168
01:59:20,490 --> 01:59:25,610
Right. Um, and so that is how
they are governed from a land

2169
01:59:25,610 --> 01:59:28,490
use perspective, from a
water use perspective.

2170
01:59:28,490 --> 01:59:30,170
We heard lots of
concerns on water use.

2171
01:59:30,170 --> 01:59:34,650
The city's large water user
guide governs these facilities.

2172
01:59:34,650 --> 01:59:39,250
And so we have effectively,
uh, eliminated the use for

2173
01:59:39,250 --> 01:59:40,130
evaporative cooling.

2174
01:59:40,130 --> 01:59:43,370
We heard some significant
concerns on that because of

2175
01:59:43,370 --> 01:59:44,730
the, um,

2176
01:59:45,810 --> 01:59:47,810
um, large water user guide.

2177
01:59:47,930 --> 01:59:50,530
Um, new data centers that
have built in Aurora are using

2178
01:59:50,530 --> 01:59:51,730
closed loop systems.

2179
01:59:51,730 --> 01:59:55,370
So once they are charged with
water in terms of that closed

2180
01:59:55,370 --> 01:59:57,850
loop system, they are not using

2181
01:59:58,410 --> 01:59:59,930
new water every day for cooling.

2182
01:59:59,930 --> 02:00:02,170
So that is after
an initial charge.

2183
02:00:02,290 --> 02:00:06,090
They're only using water at
that point for irrigation and

2184
02:00:06,090 --> 02:00:08,130
for, you know, hand-washing
and things like that.

2185
02:00:08,130 --> 02:00:11,530
So there's there's not large
scale water use for that.

2186
02:00:11,570 --> 02:00:15,610
Currently, of the approximately
nine data centers that are in

2187
02:00:15,650 --> 02:00:19,970
Aurora, they account for
approximately 0.3% of our total

2188
02:00:19,970 --> 02:00:22,170
water usage on an annual basis.

2189
02:00:22,210 --> 02:00:23,930
And so it is a it is
a small water user.

2190
02:00:23,930 --> 02:00:25,170
We've heard those concerns.

2191
02:00:25,170 --> 02:00:27,570
With that said, um, the

2192
02:00:28,890 --> 02:00:33,450
um, 1185 does direct us to
bring forward an ordinance to

2193
02:00:33,490 --> 02:00:36,170
explicitly outlaw
evaporative cooling.

2194
02:00:36,170 --> 02:00:39,530
Uh, we've worked with the
Aurora Water Department and are

2195
02:00:39,530 --> 02:00:43,410
prepared to bring that forward,
um, and address that concern so

2196
02:00:43,410 --> 02:00:47,490
that it is explicitly
not allowed in the code.

2197
02:00:47,490 --> 02:00:50,170
So we've done that, and we'll
be prepared to bring that

2198
02:00:50,170 --> 02:00:53,690
forward in terms of noise that
we have from the facility's

2199
02:00:53,730 --> 02:00:54,890
current development code does

2200
02:00:54,890 --> 02:00:58,530
allow for noise and
has noise standards.

2201
02:00:58,690 --> 02:01:00,850
We're still looking at whether
or not we think those are

2202
02:01:00,850 --> 02:01:02,010
effective, what that looks like.

2203
02:01:02,050 --> 02:01:06,970
Those noise limits within
the code typically are set at

2204
02:01:06,970 --> 02:01:07,530
different levels.

2205
02:01:07,530 --> 02:01:10,330
There's a daytime standard and
a nighttime standard, and then

2206
02:01:10,330 --> 02:01:14,610
that standard also varies by
what the adjacent land use is.

2207
02:01:14,650 --> 02:01:17,050
And so it's going to be the
lowest when that land use is

2208
02:01:17,050 --> 02:01:20,690
adjacent to residential, it's
going to be higher if you're

2209
02:01:20,690 --> 02:01:21,730
adjacent land use or other

2210
02:01:21,730 --> 02:01:23,410
industrial uses or
things like that.

2211
02:01:23,410 --> 02:01:24,730
So that's within the code.

2212
02:01:24,770 --> 02:01:27,410
That's one of the areas we're
continuing to to look at, to

2213
02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:29,170
see the current

2214
02:01:30,370 --> 02:01:34,130
land use codes do not require
setbacks from neighborhoods.

2215
02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:38,210
And the 1185 does direct
staff to bring forward some

2216
02:01:38,210 --> 02:01:41,370
recommendations or
considerations for council in

2217
02:01:41,370 --> 02:01:46,930
terms of potentially adding
setbacks to those land uses.

2218
02:01:46,930 --> 02:01:52,250
And then finally, in terms of
the power, um, the PUC and is

2219
02:01:52,250 --> 02:01:53,810
regulated by Excel.

2220
02:01:53,810 --> 02:01:57,050
And so we currently don't have
anything in our code regulating

2221
02:01:57,050 --> 02:01:59,690
power usage because that is
regulated at the state level.

2222
02:01:59,730 --> 02:02:03,450
And they go through an
extensive process in terms of

2223
02:02:03,490 --> 02:02:05,970
determining what their power
needs are and then what the

2224
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:08,890
cost of infrastructure is
going to be to provide that.

2225
02:02:08,890 --> 02:02:11,970
And the PUC and the Excel
currently handle that through

2226
02:02:11,970 --> 02:02:14,090
their regulatory process.

2227
02:02:14,130 --> 02:02:18,530
So from a staff perspective,
that's kind of the current, um,

2228
02:02:18,890 --> 02:02:19,610
lay of the land.

2229
02:02:19,610 --> 02:02:22,450
And we'll take any
questions from council.

2230
02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:24,130
Questions of staff.

2231
02:02:26,690 --> 02:02:27,370
Mayor.

2232
02:02:28,210 --> 02:02:28,810
Council member.

2233
02:02:28,810 --> 02:02:29,490
Hancock.

2234
02:02:30,090 --> 02:02:30,530
Horton.

2235
02:02:30,970 --> 02:02:31,330
I'm sorry.

2236
02:02:31,330 --> 02:02:32,050
Councilmember Horton.

2237
02:02:32,050 --> 02:02:32,890
Sorry H.

2238
02:02:33,290 --> 02:02:35,130
Um, yeah.

2239
02:02:35,170 --> 02:02:36,210
City manager.

2240
02:02:36,370 --> 02:02:40,170
Uh, Jason Batchelor, can
you talk about the, uh, what

2241
02:02:40,210 --> 02:02:43,810
benefit has this have they
brought to the city job wise?

2242
02:02:44,210 --> 02:02:49,410
Uh, any economic contributions
of the nine that I know, not

2243
02:02:49,410 --> 02:02:52,610
all nine are currently built,
but of the nine, what do they

2244
02:02:52,610 --> 02:02:53,490
offer the city?

2245
02:02:53,530 --> 02:02:56,450
Yeah. So typically when these
are coming in, they, uh, they

2246
02:02:56,450 --> 02:02:58,610
represent large, uh,
capital investments.

2247
02:02:58,610 --> 02:03:02,930
And so there is significant,
um, capital investment that's

2248
02:03:02,930 --> 02:03:03,650
going in the ground.

2249
02:03:03,650 --> 02:03:07,530
And so, uh, the property tax
entities, of which the city's

2250
02:03:07,530 --> 02:03:10,130
one are primary source is not
property tax, but the school

2251
02:03:10,130 --> 02:03:12,730
districts are funded by
property taxes, and the

2252
02:03:12,730 --> 02:03:15,130
counties are funded
by property taxes.

2253
02:03:15,130 --> 02:03:20,130
So they see significant, um,
property tax revenue from those

2254
02:03:20,170 --> 02:03:23,570
in addition to the jobs created
both during construction and,

2255
02:03:24,050 --> 02:03:26,170
um, during operations.

2256
02:03:26,490 --> 02:03:27,490
So sorry.

2257
02:03:27,570 --> 02:03:30,610
Clarification. So you just
spoke about the property tax

2258
02:03:30,610 --> 02:03:35,250
benefit for, uh, apps
and the counties.

2259
02:03:35,890 --> 02:03:37,170
What about for the
city of Aurora?

2260
02:03:37,210 --> 02:03:40,410
The city also sees some of that
property tax, but we are also

2261
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:44,850
seeing, um, significant
sales and use tax from these

2262
02:03:44,890 --> 02:03:46,490
facilities when they are built.

2263
02:03:46,730 --> 02:03:49,890
Um, they are often refreshing
all of the equipment within

2264
02:03:49,970 --> 02:03:53,450
that, depending on the end user.

2265
02:03:53,890 --> 02:03:55,290
Refreshing that every few years.

2266
02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:58,930
And so we continue to get
sales and use tax from those

2267
02:03:58,930 --> 02:04:00,610
equipment purchases
for the facility.

2268
02:04:00,890 --> 02:04:01,650
Thank you.

2269
02:04:02,410 --> 02:04:03,730
Further further questions.

2270
02:04:03,770 --> 02:04:04,690
Council member Lawson.

2271
02:04:04,690 --> 02:04:06,130
Yeah, I'm for you, Jason.

2272
02:04:06,130 --> 02:04:09,930
So I know one of the data
centers that has been here for

2273
02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:12,290
the longest, I think
it's in Ward four.

2274
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:15,170
Is it I think is or
is it a different one?

2275
02:04:15,890 --> 02:04:16,410
It's flexible.

2276
02:04:16,410 --> 02:04:19,290
Okay. Um, how long
have they brought in?

2277
02:04:19,330 --> 02:04:20,530
How long have they been here?

2278
02:04:20,530 --> 02:04:22,050
And I know the answer.

2279
02:04:22,050 --> 02:04:23,170
But how long have
they been here?

2280
02:04:23,170 --> 02:04:26,210
And how much revenue have
they brought to the city?

2281
02:04:26,250 --> 02:04:28,410
Um, they've been here decades.

2282
02:04:28,530 --> 02:04:31,090
I don't know the number off the
top of my hand, off the top of

2283
02:04:31,090 --> 02:04:31,330
my head.

2284
02:04:31,330 --> 02:04:32,050
But they've brought in

2285
02:04:32,050 --> 02:04:34,010
significant revenue
over the decades.

2286
02:04:34,010 --> 02:04:36,730
They've been here both from a
property tax payment and then

2287
02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:38,290
use tax as they refresh those.

2288
02:04:38,330 --> 02:04:42,570
Okay. And then, um, Aurora has
already with the current ones

2289
02:04:42,570 --> 02:04:46,210
that we have in the pipeline or
ones that we've had from data

2290
02:04:46,410 --> 02:04:47,490
since 2021.

2291
02:04:48,210 --> 02:04:52,330
Um, we've already do, you know,
and I'm bringing this up, that

2292
02:04:52,330 --> 02:04:57,810
Aurora has received $24.3
million in tax revenue.

2293
02:04:57,850 --> 02:04:58,770
Yeah, we had that request

2294
02:04:58,770 --> 02:05:01,250
coming last week
in advance of this.

2295
02:05:01,250 --> 02:05:03,870
And so, yeah, we've we've
received approximately $24

2296
02:05:03,870 --> 02:05:08,490
million from the data centers
in Aurora directly or from

2297
02:05:08,490 --> 02:05:12,330
technology vendors associated
that, again, are often, um,

2298
02:05:13,370 --> 02:05:15,490
outfitting the
equipment within those.

2299
02:05:15,530 --> 02:05:18,490
Okay. And I bring up those two
subject matters just for the

2300
02:05:18,530 --> 02:05:22,490
for for the city manager is
because we've had a data center

2301
02:05:22,490 --> 02:05:26,890
that is in Ward four that has
produced income and has we have

2302
02:05:26,890 --> 02:05:30,170
never heard of anything about
this particular data center

2303
02:05:30,530 --> 02:05:33,410
since it's been in Ward four.

2304
02:05:33,890 --> 02:05:35,650
Um, so I wanted
to bring that up.

2305
02:05:35,650 --> 02:05:39,450
And that's actually in a
community, neighborhood area.

2306
02:05:39,450 --> 02:05:40,650
So I wanted to bring that up.

2307
02:05:40,650 --> 02:05:43,970
And then just how much tax
revenue we do get from the data

2308
02:05:44,010 --> 02:05:46,770
centers that we have from 2001.

2309
02:05:46,970 --> 02:05:49,650
So I wanted to bring that
up as questions for you.

2310
02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:52,450
And just to reiterate that I'll
probably have more as we move

2311
02:05:52,450 --> 02:05:53,770
forward with the amendments.

2312
02:05:53,810 --> 02:05:54,690
Mayor, mayor.

2313
02:05:54,970 --> 02:05:56,450
I'm sorry, Councilor Hancock.

2314
02:05:56,570 --> 02:05:58,570
I just wanted to ask.

2315
02:05:58,650 --> 02:06:04,650
Um, and to your point about the
Xcel Energy, it says I heard at

2316
02:06:04,650 --> 02:06:08,690
the last town hall that council
member Wiles held at the

2317
02:06:08,690 --> 02:06:12,570
library, that Xcel Energy says
that it can't serve large load

2318
02:06:12,570 --> 02:06:14,410
customers before 2031.

2319
02:06:14,650 --> 02:06:15,170
Can you?

2320
02:06:15,410 --> 02:06:16,850
Can you confirm that.

2321
02:06:17,770 --> 02:06:21,090
We've had communication with
them, that, again, due to the

2322
02:06:21,090 --> 02:06:24,210
regulatory process that they're
under going through the PUC in

2323
02:06:24,210 --> 02:06:28,770
terms of getting some major
capital additions approved as

2324
02:06:28,770 --> 02:06:33,250
part of their service within
the state of Colorado, that,

2325
02:06:33,330 --> 02:06:37,290
uh, given the current capital
improvements that they have in

2326
02:06:37,290 --> 02:06:41,170
place and approved through
the PUC, um, that large scale

2327
02:06:41,610 --> 02:06:47,260
hyperscale, um, improvement or
power for data centers is not

2328
02:06:47,260 --> 02:06:51,780
likely till or is very unlikely
until 2030 or 2031 or beyond.

2329
02:06:51,860 --> 02:06:56,820
Okay, with that said, I'm just
I'm curious as to, um, I know

2330
02:06:56,820 --> 02:06:59,460
this says resolution, but
it really is a moratorium.

2331
02:06:59,460 --> 02:07:01,860
It's just you just change
the the name around.

2332
02:07:01,860 --> 02:07:05,420
And so what I would like to
understand is what specifically

2333
02:07:05,740 --> 02:07:09,220
is the staff going to be able
to accomplish in 60 days?

2334
02:07:09,220 --> 02:07:13,220
What deficiency is there
that the Udo isn't already

2335
02:07:13,220 --> 02:07:18,220
addressing, and why can't we
work these things alongside

2336
02:07:18,980 --> 02:07:21,500
while the Udo remains in effect?

2337
02:07:21,500 --> 02:07:23,180
And what do we expect to happen?

2338
02:07:23,180 --> 02:07:27,740
What's going to happen in 60
days after you're done doing

2339
02:07:27,740 --> 02:07:29,220
whatever it is
you're going to do?

2340
02:07:29,580 --> 02:07:31,540
I'm not sure where
the 60 days come from.

2341
02:07:31,580 --> 02:07:33,700
The moratorium refers
to a six month.

2342
02:07:33,740 --> 02:07:35,180
Six months, excuse
me, six months.

2343
02:07:35,220 --> 02:07:36,460
What are you going
to do in six months?

2344
02:07:36,460 --> 02:07:40,940
So at that time, um, per
section one of the ordinance or

2345
02:07:40,940 --> 02:07:43,660
excuse me, of the resolution
we're going to bring forward

2346
02:07:43,660 --> 02:07:46,020
ordinance is for council's
consideration first, again

2347
02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:47,500
around evaporative cooling.

2348
02:07:47,700 --> 02:07:49,500
Um, explicitly outlawing that.

2349
02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:53,700
Second would be to look at
the land use regulations, um,

2350
02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:57,860
including the zone districts
that are currently allowed at

2351
02:07:57,860 --> 02:08:01,140
as well as setbacks, buffers
and potential conditional use.

2352
02:08:01,460 --> 02:08:04,220
And then finally, if there's
anything else that council or

2353
02:08:04,220 --> 02:08:06,700
others identify, we would
look at those matters.

2354
02:08:06,700 --> 02:08:10,180
And so that is the
direction in the resolution.

2355
02:08:10,180 --> 02:08:12,020
So if it passes that's
what we'll bring forward.

2356
02:08:12,060 --> 02:08:17,060
So didn't Aurora water already
determined that they would not

2357
02:08:17,060 --> 02:08:21,500
approve any new data center
developments unless they had

2358
02:08:21,500 --> 02:08:22,980
closed loop systems?

2359
02:08:23,020 --> 02:08:25,100
Didn't that essentially
solve the problem?

2360
02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:29,980
So so basically, we would just
be codifying that by going

2361
02:08:29,980 --> 02:08:34,100
through this other process,
because they already indicated

2362
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,060
that they weren't going to

2363
02:08:35,060 --> 02:08:37,540
approve any evaporative
cooling systems.

2364
02:08:37,540 --> 02:08:38,660
So again, right now the code is

2365
02:08:38,660 --> 02:08:40,540
not specific to the
cooling methodology.

2366
02:08:40,540 --> 02:08:43,980
So the the Large User's Guide
refers to the amount of water

2367
02:08:43,980 --> 02:08:48,220
used per acre per day
for for for large users.

2368
02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:52,540
And so then it then looks at
whether that use is consumptive

2369
02:08:52,540 --> 02:08:55,700
or non consumptive and
depending on um, the majority

2370
02:08:55,700 --> 02:08:57,980
of that use whether it's
consumptive or non consumptive,

2371
02:08:58,020 --> 02:09:01,060
that gives us different
capacities that kind of run

2372
02:09:01,060 --> 02:09:04,220
afoul of the large user guide.

2373
02:09:04,220 --> 02:09:07,860
But there could be somebody
could try and thread the needle

2374
02:09:07,940 --> 02:09:10,020
and still use evaporative
cooling because we don't speak

2375
02:09:10,020 --> 02:09:10,380
to that.

2376
02:09:10,380 --> 02:09:15,340
So the explicit outlaw of
evaporative cooling would um, I

2377
02:09:15,340 --> 02:09:17,540
think something that I'll look
at Marshall out there that, you

2378
02:09:17,540 --> 02:09:21,700
know, staff thinks would be,
um, supportive and a companion

2379
02:09:21,700 --> 02:09:23,140
to the larger water user guide.

2380
02:09:23,180 --> 02:09:25,620
What we've talked about is
we think we've effectively

2381
02:09:25,780 --> 02:09:29,700
outlawed, um, evaporative
cooling just through the large

2382
02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:30,460
water user guide.

2383
02:09:30,460 --> 02:09:34,300
But an ordinance to come
forward to explicitly, um, ban

2384
02:09:34,300 --> 02:09:37,500
it is, you know, we're we're
supportive of that from just,

2385
02:09:37,540 --> 02:09:40,820
you know, making sure that
we're being the best stewards

2386
02:09:40,820 --> 02:09:41,260
we can.

2387
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:42,340
So then that's a yes.

2388
02:09:42,380 --> 02:09:42,980
Yes.

2389
02:09:43,700 --> 02:09:44,340
Mayor.

2390
02:09:44,700 --> 02:09:45,340
Can I.

2391
02:09:45,460 --> 02:09:45,980
Sorry, mayor.

2392
02:09:46,020 --> 02:09:47,260
Let me let me correct one thing.

2393
02:09:47,260 --> 02:09:48,340
So sorry.

2394
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:52,860
Jason. There's no timeline for
the for the more the moratorium

2395
02:09:52,860 --> 02:09:53,260
I'm using.

2396
02:09:53,260 --> 02:09:55,500
Because that word is not used
in the actual resolution that

2397
02:09:55,500 --> 02:09:58,100
was in the ordinance
that was pulled tonight.

2398
02:09:58,100 --> 02:09:59,180
So it's not being considered.

2399
02:09:59,180 --> 02:10:02,380
So I want to be clear that
all this resolution does is it

2400
02:10:02,380 --> 02:10:05,420
states that the city manager
is directed to not accept new

2401
02:10:05,420 --> 02:10:07,980
development applications that
propose to establish a primary

2402
02:10:08,020 --> 02:10:10,780
use, expand or otherwise
increase the gross floor area

2403
02:10:10,820 --> 02:10:12,260
of existing or new data centers.

2404
02:10:12,300 --> 02:10:14,020
The effective date
of this resolution.

2405
02:10:14,300 --> 02:10:18,500
So again, what City Manager
Batchelor has talked about.

2406
02:10:18,500 --> 02:10:19,660
We've been in a lot
of conversations.

2407
02:10:19,660 --> 02:10:21,540
Obviously you know Jason
and I talk all the time.

2408
02:10:21,540 --> 02:10:22,860
We've been talking
to Xcel Energy.

2409
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:25,420
We've been talking to Marshall
with the water department.

2410
02:10:25,900 --> 02:10:28,780
The fact of the matter is it
takes about six months, right,

2411
02:10:28,780 --> 02:10:31,860
for one of these applications
to even get close to being

2412
02:10:31,860 --> 02:10:33,700
ready to file with the city.

2413
02:10:33,700 --> 02:10:37,460
And this resolution also Uh, it
does say that it should not be

2414
02:10:37,460 --> 02:10:38,500
applied retroactively.

2415
02:10:38,500 --> 02:10:40,540
Development applications
currently pending, or other

2416
02:10:40,540 --> 02:10:43,340
contractual negotiations that
were initiated prior to the

2417
02:10:43,340 --> 02:10:45,260
effective date of this
resolution, and again,

2418
02:10:45,260 --> 02:10:47,540
including incentive agreements
pursuant to City Code section

2419
02:10:47,540 --> 02:10:51,300
13298, shall be expressly
exempted from this resolution.

2420
02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:55,780
So what this would do, if
passed, would direct Jason and

2421
02:10:55,780 --> 02:10:59,180
the rest of city staff to have
these ordinances that you're

2422
02:10:59,180 --> 02:11:01,780
requesting through your
stakeholder and everything else

2423
02:11:01,780 --> 02:11:04,740
to come forward, to be
evaluated by council so they

2424
02:11:04,740 --> 02:11:05,620
can go into effect.

2425
02:11:05,620 --> 02:11:09,900
But again, I with with what's
going on with Excel, what's

2426
02:11:09,900 --> 02:11:12,940
going on with the water, there
will not be the ability for the

2427
02:11:12,940 --> 02:11:16,140
city manager to accept an
application well beyond this

2428
02:11:16,140 --> 02:11:18,780
resolution's effective
date, just because of those

2429
02:11:18,780 --> 02:11:20,900
limitations that aren't
bound by the city.

2430
02:11:20,900 --> 02:11:23,340
So I just want to be clear that

2431
02:11:23,340 --> 02:11:24,980
that's that's why this
is the resolution.

2432
02:11:24,980 --> 02:11:27,460
This is why I recommended that
this is the way we do this,

2433
02:11:27,460 --> 02:11:30,980
because it makes it clear, hey,
we're just calling an elephant

2434
02:11:30,980 --> 02:11:32,380
an elephant or a
sheep or sheep, right?

2435
02:11:32,420 --> 02:11:34,420
We're just dealing
with, uh, what?

2436
02:11:34,460 --> 02:11:36,900
What is going around us
with power and water.

2437
02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:39,660
And that's what the limitations
are, not necessarily the city

2438
02:11:39,700 --> 02:11:40,420
holding anything up.

2439
02:11:40,420 --> 02:11:41,580
And that's what this
resolution does.

2440
02:11:41,620 --> 02:11:43,540
I want to be clear that
there's no timetable.

2441
02:11:43,900 --> 02:11:44,540
Mayor.

2442
02:11:44,980 --> 02:11:46,860
I just want to clarify
something as well.

2443
02:11:47,180 --> 02:11:51,660
Was the difference between the
data center and Ward four and

2444
02:11:51,660 --> 02:11:54,820
the data centers that are
being built now is size.

2445
02:11:54,820 --> 02:11:56,540
So the newer ones
are hyperscale.

2446
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:58,100
They are far larger.

2447
02:11:58,100 --> 02:12:00,380
They use a lot more energy.

2448
02:12:00,500 --> 02:12:02,780
They take up a lot
more land space.

2449
02:12:03,060 --> 02:12:07,180
Um, so to compare, a small data
center that existed for ten

2450
02:12:07,220 --> 02:12:11,580
years or 20 years even isn't
really comparable to the big

2451
02:12:11,580 --> 02:12:12,980
ones that are being built now.

2452
02:12:12,980 --> 02:12:15,900
They're just very different
in terms of needs uses.

2453
02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:16,820
ET cetera.

2454
02:12:16,940 --> 02:12:20,180
And then also the water
ordinance is already done.

2455
02:12:20,500 --> 02:12:22,620
Um, it should come forward soon.

2456
02:12:22,900 --> 02:12:24,300
Uh, probably next meeting to

2457
02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:26,580
study session or
the meeting after.

2458
02:12:26,580 --> 02:12:32,500
And then in terms of, um, the
neighborhood buffer, we Jason

2459
02:12:32,500 --> 02:12:34,060
and I have been working on that.

2460
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:37,380
We've been out on field trips,
actually walking neighborhoods

2461
02:12:37,380 --> 02:12:40,620
to see how long is appropriate.

2462
02:12:41,300 --> 02:12:46,140
So that we're making decisions
based on data and not just, um,

2463
02:12:46,260 --> 02:12:47,700
external influence.

2464
02:12:50,860 --> 02:12:52,980
Uh, further questions of staff.

2465
02:12:53,540 --> 02:12:54,580
Mayor. Gardner.

2466
02:12:54,980 --> 02:12:55,940
Councilor Gardner.

2467
02:12:56,540 --> 02:12:57,220
Thank you.

2468
02:12:57,540 --> 02:13:02,660
Yeah. This is a question for
Marshall, GM of Aurora water,

2469
02:13:03,140 --> 02:13:05,780
because we keep talking
about water usage.

2470
02:13:05,780 --> 02:13:07,300
And so I'm curious.

2471
02:13:08,020 --> 02:13:11,420
Um, and I'm going to use the
example because that's our

2472
02:13:11,420 --> 02:13:13,940
largest data center that
keeps being referenced.

2473
02:13:13,980 --> 02:13:17,020
Does that data center use
more water itself or does the

2474
02:13:17,020 --> 02:13:19,460
landscaping requirements
around it use more water?

2475
02:13:21,340 --> 02:13:22,460
Yeah. Thank you.

2476
02:13:22,620 --> 02:13:23,700
Councilmember Gardner.

2477
02:13:23,740 --> 02:13:26,540
This is Marshall Brown, general
manager of Aurora water.

2478
02:13:26,940 --> 02:13:27,580
Um,

2479
02:13:29,060 --> 02:13:34,220
Ice uses significantly more
water for outdoor landscaping

2480
02:13:34,220 --> 02:13:36,140
than they do for indoor process.

2481
02:13:36,420 --> 02:13:41,580
Um, and pretty much any new
data center that comes to us

2482
02:13:41,580 --> 02:13:45,260
right now under the large water
user guide that Jason talked

2483
02:13:45,260 --> 02:13:48,180
about, is regulated pretty

2484
02:13:48,220 --> 02:13:50,460
tightly on water
use for process.

2485
02:13:50,620 --> 02:13:54,260
And then they also have the
landscaping standards, uh, from

2486
02:13:54,260 --> 02:13:56,700
the water conservation
ordinance that council passed

2487
02:13:56,700 --> 02:13:57,660
in 2022.

2488
02:13:58,540 --> 02:14:00,820
So the outdoor water use is

2489
02:14:00,820 --> 02:14:05,420
pretty efficient, um,
per our requirements.

2490
02:14:05,540 --> 02:14:07,500
And the indoor water use is

2491
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:09,660
even more efficient
than the landscaping.

2492
02:14:09,660 --> 02:14:11,780
The landscaping is
using more water.

2493
02:14:13,220 --> 02:14:13,900
Thanks, Marshall.

2494
02:14:13,940 --> 02:14:15,220
And, yeah, that's relevant.

2495
02:14:15,260 --> 02:14:18,140
Obviously, I'm working on
an ordinance to limit and or

2496
02:14:18,140 --> 02:14:21,740
restrict any landscaping that
utilizes water in industrial

2497
02:14:21,740 --> 02:14:25,180
zoned areas, so that'll
obviously take care of that.

2498
02:14:25,180 --> 02:14:27,220
Um, and then a follow up for

2499
02:14:27,220 --> 02:14:30,380
the city manager,
can you clarify?

2500
02:14:31,580 --> 02:14:35,700
Just to make sure we do not
currently allow use by right

2501
02:14:35,700 --> 02:14:37,700
data centers in
residential zone districts.

2502
02:14:37,700 --> 02:14:38,460
Correct?

2503
02:14:39,860 --> 02:14:41,020
We do not.

2504
02:14:42,140 --> 02:14:42,460
All right.

2505
02:14:42,500 --> 02:14:43,300
That's all my questions.

2506
02:14:43,300 --> 02:14:44,020
Thank you.

2507
02:14:45,340 --> 02:14:45,980
Mayor.

2508
02:14:46,500 --> 02:14:46,700
Mayor.

2509
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:48,380
I just have a
couple of questions.

2510
02:14:48,380 --> 02:14:51,540
One is for the city manager.

2511
02:14:51,580 --> 02:14:55,620
Do we have any information
about our current data centers

2512
02:14:55,620 --> 02:14:59,260
with respect to
ambient heat impacts?

2513
02:14:59,820 --> 02:15:02,980
I think we've all experienced
some a very hot summer.

2514
02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:05,820
So just wondering if that's
information we've collected.

2515
02:15:06,340 --> 02:15:06,940
We do not.

2516
02:15:07,060 --> 02:15:08,140
Not that I'm aware of.

2517
02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:09,580
Okay. So that would be

2518
02:15:09,580 --> 02:15:11,660
something we could
be looking at.

2519
02:15:11,940 --> 02:15:16,300
And then my other question is,
um, kind of as a follow up to

2520
02:15:16,340 --> 02:15:18,740
Councilmember Gardner's
question, we don't allow

2521
02:15:20,660 --> 02:15:24,340
data centers in residential
zone districts, but are any of

2522
02:15:24,340 --> 02:15:28,270
the districts that they are
permitted in adjacent to

2523
02:15:28,350 --> 02:15:31,870
residential zone districts
with current or future planned

2524
02:15:31,870 --> 02:15:33,270
residential development.

2525
02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:39,910
Yes, there are several areas of
the use by right districts that

2526
02:15:39,910 --> 02:15:42,270
do abut residentially
zoned properties.

2527
02:15:42,510 --> 02:15:43,390
Thank you.

2528
02:15:44,190 --> 02:15:46,750
Further questions of staff.

2529
02:15:47,910 --> 02:15:48,470
Seeing none.

2530
02:15:48,590 --> 02:15:49,750
Motion is in order.

2531
02:15:51,390 --> 02:15:52,070
Mayor.

2532
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:53,030
Mayor Pro tem.

2533
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:55,950
Motion to adopt.

2534
02:15:56,030 --> 02:15:56,790
11. Eight.

2535
02:15:56,830 --> 02:15:58,870
Five. And then I'll have

2536
02:15:59,030 --> 02:16:00,510
amendments with
this on the floor.

2537
02:16:00,550 --> 02:16:02,390
Move by Mayor Pro
Tem, seconded by

2538
02:16:03,950 --> 02:16:06,230
second. Second by Councilmember

2539
02:16:06,230 --> 02:16:10,030
Wallace to adopt
item number 1185.

2540
02:16:11,110 --> 02:16:11,910
Discussion.

2541
02:16:12,190 --> 02:16:12,830
Mayor.

2542
02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:14,510
Mayor Pro tem, thank you.

2543
02:16:14,510 --> 02:16:18,190
So first I want to be clear
that I absolutely support the

2544
02:16:18,190 --> 02:16:22,590
work that Councilmember Walz
has done and this ordinance as

2545
02:16:22,590 --> 02:16:24,110
it is written.

2546
02:16:24,230 --> 02:16:27,950
However, in conversations that
Councilmember Wills and I have

2547
02:16:27,950 --> 02:16:31,350
had together, conversations
I've had with stakeholders,

2548
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:34,510
conversations I've had with
colleagues, and things I've

2549
02:16:34,510 --> 02:16:38,830
heard from Council member Wiles
about concerns she's heard.

2550
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:44,710
I did want to bring forward
some amendments to section two

2551
02:16:44,750 --> 02:16:46,710
and section three.

2552
02:16:47,350 --> 02:16:51,350
Um, so I'll start
with section two.

2553
02:16:51,390 --> 02:16:57,710
So on section two, the
amendment would read, um, the

2554
02:16:57,710 --> 02:17:02,470
city manager is directed
to accept new development

2555
02:17:02,470 --> 02:17:06,310
applications that proposed to
establish as a primary use,

2556
02:17:06,430 --> 02:17:09,710
expand or otherwise increase
the gross floor area of an

2557
02:17:09,710 --> 02:17:14,310
existing or new data centre as
of the effective date of this

2558
02:17:14,310 --> 02:17:18,990
resolution, only if it meets

2559
02:17:18,990 --> 02:17:23,470
the following requirements
and requirement.

2560
02:17:23,710 --> 02:17:33,750
A is that, um, it be, uh, there
be a half mile buffer from any

2561
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:36,550
current or planned
residential development?

2562
02:17:37,230 --> 02:17:41,590
Um, and requirement B is that
we've heard everyone's already

2563
02:17:41,590 --> 02:17:44,710
doing anyway, but that it uses
closed loop cooling because we

2564
02:17:44,750 --> 02:17:46,790
don't yet have that
officially in code.

2565
02:17:46,790 --> 02:17:48,870
So that's the First Amendment.

2566
02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:51,350
I'd like us to take them, um,

2567
02:17:51,430 --> 02:17:53,110
each individually,
if that's okay.

2568
02:17:53,150 --> 02:17:55,830
Mayor. So that's
my First Amendment.

2569
02:17:55,870 --> 02:17:56,430
Okay.

2570
02:17:56,430 --> 02:18:01,510
Um, second move by Mayor Pro
tem, seconded by somebody,

2571
02:18:01,510 --> 02:18:02,670
Councilmember Walz.

2572
02:18:02,990 --> 02:18:05,110
Um, discussion.

2573
02:18:07,390 --> 02:18:08,590
Uh, then call for the question

2574
02:18:08,590 --> 02:18:10,990
on the first mayor
pro tem amendment.

2575
02:18:25,950 --> 02:18:27,350
Councilmember Andrews.

2576
02:18:29,150 --> 02:18:30,150
Thank you.

2577
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:31,630
Councilmember Jackson.

2578
02:18:35,230 --> 02:18:35,670
Is she on?

2579
02:18:38,230 --> 02:18:40,150
Councilmember Jackson,
are you online?

2580
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:44,030
Councilmember Jackson is.

2581
02:18:44,030 --> 02:18:44,790
Excused.

2582
02:18:44,830 --> 02:18:45,310
No, she.

2583
02:18:45,310 --> 02:18:45,670
Was.

2584
02:18:46,110 --> 02:18:46,270
She.

2585
02:18:46,590 --> 02:18:47,430
She's been online.

2586
02:18:47,470 --> 02:18:47,710
Yes.

2587
02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:48,390
I'm online.

2588
02:18:48,390 --> 02:18:49,110
I'm online.

2589
02:18:49,150 --> 02:18:49,990
Thank you.

2590
02:18:50,030 --> 02:18:53,870
Um, the vote has a tie.

2591
02:18:53,910 --> 02:18:56,910
So, mayor, you can
break the tie vote.

2592
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:57,590
Yeah.

2593
02:18:57,790 --> 02:18:58,590
We're we're.

2594
02:18:58,830 --> 02:19:02,510
I have no idea what the the
limit should be because.

2595
02:19:02,550 --> 02:19:06,710
Or because we've not asked
staff to come back and been

2596
02:19:06,710 --> 02:19:09,550
able to to have a debate,

2597
02:19:09,590 --> 02:19:11,190
knowledgeable debate about this.

2598
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:16,550
And so, um, whether it should
be a mile or a half mile or a

2599
02:19:16,550 --> 02:19:17,830
quarter mile, I don't know.

2600
02:19:17,830 --> 02:19:19,150
And nor do I think

2601
02:19:20,190 --> 02:19:21,630
anybody on this council knows.

2602
02:19:21,670 --> 02:19:22,990
And so, Mayor Royce.

2603
02:19:22,990 --> 02:19:23,470
No.

2604
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:25,670
You know.

2605
02:19:25,950 --> 02:19:30,190
The motion does not pass
to adopt the amendment.

2606
02:19:30,830 --> 02:19:31,110
Okay.

2607
02:19:31,150 --> 02:19:33,790
So we're back to the original
motion on the floor with the

2608
02:19:33,790 --> 02:19:36,550
resolution as written
in the packet.

2609
02:19:37,470 --> 02:19:42,430
Okay. Um, I would like to
make the Second Amendment.

2610
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:49,430
Um, second proposed amendment,
um, which is just to add into

2611
02:19:49,790 --> 02:19:54,510
section three development
applications currently pending,

2612
02:19:54,510 --> 02:19:57,830
and just add the language,
including those that have had a

2613
02:19:57,830 --> 02:20:00,630
pre-application meeting, um,

2614
02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:04,030
before and other
contractual negotiations.

2615
02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:09,830
Is there a second.

2616
02:20:10,830 --> 02:20:11,710
Move by Mayor pro tem?

2617
02:20:11,710 --> 02:20:12,350
Second by.

2618
02:20:12,550 --> 02:20:13,190
Second.

2619
02:20:13,470 --> 02:20:14,710
By Councilmember Wiles?

2620
02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:15,910
Uh, discussion.

2621
02:20:18,510 --> 02:20:20,070
Seeing none.

2622
02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:21,750
Call for the question
on the second.

2623
02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:23,310
Mayor pro tem amendment.

2624
02:20:34,550 --> 02:20:35,070
No, no.

2625
02:20:36,590 --> 02:20:38,910
I'm sorry, Katie,
just for the record.

2626
02:20:39,310 --> 02:20:41,750
Those have had a
pre-application meeting.

2627
02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:42,470
Meeting? Okay.

2628
02:20:42,670 --> 02:20:42,990
Thank you.

2629
02:20:42,990 --> 02:20:43,590
I'll update that.

2630
02:20:43,630 --> 02:20:44,230
Thank you.

2631
02:20:44,750 --> 02:20:48,310
This is so included
in a pre process.

2632
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:52,150
Councilmember Bergen.

2633
02:20:57,390 --> 02:20:58,750
I voted on Friday.

2634
02:20:59,430 --> 02:21:01,550
I'm sorry, I don't I'm
not showing up on my end.

2635
02:21:01,590 --> 02:21:02,230
How would you like to.

2636
02:21:02,270 --> 02:21:02,750
Thank you.

2637
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:04,950
It just came through, mayor.

2638
02:21:04,990 --> 02:21:06,030
Again? It's a tie.

2639
02:21:06,790 --> 02:21:06,990
Yes.

2640
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:07,510
Mayor. Vote.

2641
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:08,030
Yes.

2642
02:21:08,910 --> 02:21:11,510
The motion passes to
adopt this amendment.

2643
02:21:17,550 --> 02:21:19,830
I have no further amendments.

2644
02:21:22,030 --> 02:21:22,510
So.

2645
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:25,470
So currently members of council.

2646
02:21:25,470 --> 02:21:28,030
So we have section
one and section two.

2647
02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:29,710
As written in the packet.

2648
02:21:29,750 --> 02:21:32,630
Section three is is
currently pending.

2649
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:34,550
And those that have had pre.

2650
02:21:35,310 --> 02:21:36,070
Application.

2651
02:21:36,070 --> 02:21:36,670
Meetings.

2652
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:39,750
Pre-application meetings which
again just to everybody's clear

2653
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:41,790
that is that the process
is on is started.

2654
02:21:41,790 --> 02:21:42,790
It's ongoing.

2655
02:21:43,390 --> 02:21:47,590
So it may allow other develop
other projects to come forward

2656
02:21:47,590 --> 02:21:49,270
as the resolution is pending.

2657
02:21:49,670 --> 02:21:51,070
So that is the only change as

2658
02:21:51,070 --> 02:21:53,670
written in this
particular resolution.

2659
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:56,230
1185 that's what you're
debating and we'll vote on.

2660
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:57,550
Mayor.

2661
02:21:58,070 --> 02:21:58,790
Mayor pro Tem.

2662
02:21:59,270 --> 02:22:02,270
Um, so I want to say first,
just thank you to Council

2663
02:22:02,310 --> 02:22:04,670
Member Wiles for being open to

2664
02:22:04,670 --> 02:22:06,390
the amendments to
the stakeholder.

2665
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:12,350
Um, to my colleagues who
supported the amendments we

2666
02:22:12,350 --> 02:22:15,830
have heard from our community
loud and clear that actually,

2667
02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:19,670
they want us to go further
than what we've gone here.

2668
02:22:19,790 --> 02:22:21,430
That the people who live in our

2669
02:22:21,430 --> 02:22:23,590
city, who live in
these neighborhoods,

2670
02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:29,310
actually would rather we just
go ahead and permanently ban

2671
02:22:29,350 --> 02:22:30,470
data centers.

2672
02:22:30,990 --> 02:22:35,270
The amendments were intended to
create a compromise to ensure

2673
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:36,990
that business can continue,

2674
02:22:38,030 --> 02:22:43,830
to ensure that workers can
continue to have their jobs

2675
02:22:44,390 --> 02:22:46,790
building data centers

2676
02:22:48,030 --> 02:22:50,390
with reasonable
restrictions, right.

2677
02:22:50,430 --> 02:22:56,550
To ensure that we don't have
data centers next to the homes

2678
02:22:56,750 --> 02:22:57,910
of our residents.

2679
02:22:58,470 --> 02:23:03,950
Across the street from our
residents homes, which all of

2680
02:23:03,950 --> 02:23:09,390
us have heard people today and
people contacting us online are

2681
02:23:09,430 --> 02:23:11,990
concerned about the fact
that that is occurring.

2682
02:23:12,030 --> 02:23:13,990
This isn't coming
forward in a vacuum.

2683
02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:15,070
And because nothing has

2684
02:23:15,070 --> 02:23:17,110
happened that impacts
our community.

2685
02:23:17,550 --> 02:23:22,430
And so although my colleagues
did not accept the amendment,

2686
02:23:22,430 --> 02:23:25,790
which was intended in good
faith to address the concerns

2687
02:23:25,790 --> 02:23:29,350
that they raised, I do hope
that the statements of our

2688
02:23:29,350 --> 02:23:31,950
community members, the
statements of our neighbors

2689
02:23:32,270 --> 02:23:36,750
about what they want to see
from us as the people elected

2690
02:23:36,750 --> 02:23:37,990
to represent them,

2691
02:23:39,150 --> 02:23:42,270
play a role in the
decision that you now make.

2692
02:23:42,510 --> 02:23:44,310
I urge a yes vote.

2693
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:45,990
Further discussion.

2694
02:23:46,030 --> 02:23:46,630
Mayor.

2695
02:23:47,950 --> 02:23:48,470
Council Member.

2696
02:23:48,470 --> 02:23:49,910
Andrews, I do want to thank.

2697
02:23:49,950 --> 02:23:53,990
Council Member Wiles
on her effort here.

2698
02:23:53,990 --> 02:23:57,310
I've been with Council member
Wiles, and she's done a lot of

2699
02:23:57,310 --> 02:23:59,550
work around data centers,
doing a town hall.

2700
02:23:59,550 --> 02:24:02,390
And I spoke with her this
morning and we had a very long

2701
02:24:02,390 --> 02:24:04,150
conversation about this.

2702
02:24:04,510 --> 02:24:06,030
I support the stronger setbacks.

2703
02:24:06,030 --> 02:24:09,030
I support water protections,
noise limits, public review.

2704
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:14,310
But what I don't support is the
the public not having an honest

2705
02:24:14,310 --> 02:24:15,790
view of what we're doing.

2706
02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:19,910
I do not support that and
I will not support that.

2707
02:24:19,950 --> 02:24:21,910
We talk about
closed loop systems.

2708
02:24:22,470 --> 02:24:23,910
We talk about electricity.

2709
02:24:24,430 --> 02:24:25,990
We're talking about noise.

2710
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:28,550
How many of us have
toured a data center?

2711
02:24:32,510 --> 02:24:34,430
How many have heard the noise?

2712
02:24:36,350 --> 02:24:37,750
Closed loop systems.

2713
02:24:42,390 --> 02:24:45,430
This is not about
for me and my vote.

2714
02:24:45,710 --> 02:24:49,990
This is not about whether or
not we can push the ball along,

2715
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:52,430
because we're going to push the
ball further along to make sure

2716
02:24:52,430 --> 02:24:54,150
we meet the things
that we need to meet.

2717
02:24:54,190 --> 02:24:58,390
This is a failure on our side
of it to educate the public.

2718
02:25:02,110 --> 02:25:03,950
So I am a no vote.

2719
02:25:05,390 --> 02:25:06,510
Further discussion.

2720
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:07,640
Mayor.

2721
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:10,400
Um. Councilmember Horton.

2722
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:17,480
Yeah. Um, I guess, uh,
one I'm I'm I'm concerned.

2723
02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:19,360
Uh, what was shared.

2724
02:25:19,400 --> 02:25:21,160
Councilmember Andrews.

2725
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:25,080
Uh, the premise of the argument
of who I visited in the closed

2726
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:26,120
loop systems.

2727
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:30,440
Um, and also knowing and I
know, you know, Councilmember

2728
02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:34,000
Gardner has his resolution
also on the agenda.

2729
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:37,440
And I haven't spoken to him and
don't know the extent of the

2730
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:41,360
research he's conducted, but I
have seen Council Member Wiles

2731
02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:44,680
effort, uh, all the way from
community engagement and and

2732
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:47,520
working with developers,
working with business partners.

2733
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:52,240
Um, trying to thread a needle
through a very sensitive topic

2734
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:59,320
on an issue that is, um, it
touches a lot of realms, from

2735
02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:00,800
our environment to residents

2736
02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:03,680
livelihood to
economic development.

2737
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:07,440
And I think based off of even
what was shared earlier in the

2738
02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:10,760
in the questions with our city
manager, there are obvious

2739
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:13,480
economic benefits
to data centers.

2740
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:18,720
And I think city council,
previous city council have has

2741
02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:22,160
invested tremendously
in this particular area.

2742
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:24,360
We have we have seen
the benefits of it.

2743
02:26:24,360 --> 02:26:28,360
And at the same time, it is now
five years later, where we have

2744
02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:32,960
an opportunity to review and
reassess what is working, what

2745
02:26:32,960 --> 02:26:36,600
is not working, and do our
due diligence like any good

2746
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:37,800
experiments, right?

2747
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:41,000
You do it for a while and you
go back and you check the data.

2748
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:45,080
And I think this is what this
resolution, at least from my

2749
02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:50,480
interpretation, does, that it
allows the city, allows the US

2750
02:26:50,480 --> 02:26:54,600
as leaders to make sure that we
have good governance, that we

2751
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:57,000
work alongside our business
partners, our residents,

2752
02:26:57,000 --> 02:26:59,280
developers to do right.

2753
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:00,480
And I really appreciate it.

2754
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:04,520
I don't know who said it during
the comment section that this

2755
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:07,920
is not just a short
term effort, right?

2756
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:10,720
That this this is going to
continuously have long impact.

2757
02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:13,120
And we know data centers
are not going anywhere.

2758
02:27:13,160 --> 02:27:15,560
We're in the middle
of an AI boom.

2759
02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:19,760
And so as a governing
body we got to do right.

2760
02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:22,080
And so that is my $0.02.

2761
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:26,800
And I just want to really thank
Councilmember Wiles for all of

2762
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:31,760
her effort and work in her due
diligence of making sure she's

2763
02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:35,440
doing the research and and
making sure that she has a

2764
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:38,680
qualified argument in front of
her colleagues, and that we see

2765
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:41,560
that for what that is and that
it is not about a it's not

2766
02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:44,760
about politics, that this
is about good governance.

2767
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:47,440
Further discussion.

2768
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:53,240
Seeing none call
for the question on.

2769
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:57,720
1185, as amended.

2770
02:28:07,360 --> 02:28:08,880
Mayor. We have a tie vote.

2771
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:11,160
What's that?

2772
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:12,760
We have a tie vote.

2773
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:13,600
Very well.

2774
02:28:13,960 --> 02:28:15,480
Um, I want to thank

2775
02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:20,040
Councilmember Wallace for
for bringing this forward.

2776
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:22,120
Um. It is.

2777
02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:28,800
We will have another one coming
up afterwards that basically

2778
02:28:30,520 --> 02:28:35,000
when you take out the ordinance
aren't really different because

2779
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:40,840
both of them say that they
can take on additional issues.

2780
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:44,640
Uh, so that the difference
between the two is procedural,

2781
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:46,880
that in one set.

2782
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:51,080
Well, now that the ordinance is
out, there's really not a time

2783
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,360
limit, uh, to there's
not a moratorium.

2784
02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:59,680
It is how fast staff can get
through these issues and get

2785
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:00,720
back to council

2786
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:03,200
on the.

2787
02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:04,600
On the other proposal.

2788
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:08,200
I think what is different it
says it provides a time limit

2789
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:12,160
for staff to come back
to council at 30 days.

2790
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:16,440
And so if we come back and
study session and we don't like

2791
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:20,560
certain aspects of it, we can
kick it back and say, you know,

2792
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:23,400
you really need to look at this
issue or you failed to look at

2793
02:29:23,400 --> 02:29:24,240
this issue.

2794
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:28,480
I think at the end of the day,
that will be a quicker process

2795
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:34,000
and that will allow council to
engage earlier in this debate

2796
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:35,880
than we otherwise might.

2797
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:40,440
But again, these are these
are very similar that what is

2798
02:29:40,440 --> 02:29:43,200
different is simply procedural.

2799
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:45,160
Mayor votes no.

2800
02:29:46,840 --> 02:29:51,880
The motion does not pass
to approve item 11 a five.

2801
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:55,520
With the clerk.

2802
02:29:56,960 --> 02:30:00,200
Now please read
the title to 1186.

2803
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:06,640
Item 1186 is resolution 2020
698, directing the City manager

2804
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:09,760
to implement data center
regulations and mayor.

2805
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:12,000
We have individuals who
would like to speak.

2806
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:15,200
Very well.

2807
02:30:15,880 --> 02:30:18,840
Agent Anderson followed
by Madison Schaffner.

2808
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:55,120
The author of this resolution
should be at work today.

2809
02:30:55,600 --> 02:30:57,600
That's to start this off.

2810
02:30:59,320 --> 02:31:01,200
If you are going to propose

2811
02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:06,200
competing ordinances and
resolutions, you should at

2812
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:10,360
least come and defend yourself
in front of your constituents

2813
02:31:11,400 --> 02:31:14,400
and not hide behind
a zoom screen.

2814
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:17,600
That's the first point.

2815
02:31:18,560 --> 02:31:22,240
The second point
is I told you so.

2816
02:31:22,960 --> 02:31:26,160
I think my commentary and
others commentary would be

2817
02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:29,480
totally different if we
were able to have heard this

2818
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:30,720
fruitful discussion.

2819
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:32,320
People's concerns.

2820
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:35,760
They're walking through
data center stories.

2821
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:40,840
We would have had a little bit
of a different public comment

2822
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:46,080
than what we would than what
we had prior to this vote.

2823
02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:56,200
When we think about
the impacts of adverse.

2824
02:31:58,520 --> 02:32:02,520
Environmental when
the when when we see.

2825
02:32:05,240 --> 02:32:08,280
The environment impact
our communities.

2826
02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:11,640
What communities do you
think they impact more.

2827
02:32:17,880 --> 02:32:22,120
What communities do we
think they impact more?

2828
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:32,360
I think we all know
the answer to that.

2829
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:38,200
So I'm a little disappointed
in the three Negroes that just

2830
02:32:38,200 --> 02:32:40,800
voted to kill that resolution.

2831
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:45,840
I hope you're proud
of yourselves.

2832
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:47,880
You too.

2833
02:32:47,880 --> 02:32:51,440
I'm not surprised you would
live next to Satan if he

2834
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:52,320
invited you.

2835
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:54,680
Rob, I am disappointed.

2836
02:32:56,240 --> 02:32:57,000
Yeah I guess.

2837
02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:59,840
But our conversations will be

2838
02:32:59,840 --> 02:33:02,240
much more different
than these two.

2839
02:33:04,920 --> 02:33:05,280
Mhm.

2840
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:15,080
When the environment is under
attack, it is impacting black

2841
02:33:15,080 --> 02:33:18,480
and brown people more so than
it is the white neighbors that

2842
02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:20,400
live in Francois district.

2843
02:33:22,040 --> 02:33:27,040
Francois neighbors don't have
to worry about this stuff.

2844
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:35,080
The neighbors that look like
us, that live near Gateway High

2845
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:37,720
School in Stephanie
Hancock's district do.

2846
02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:44,440
But again, the colored gals on
the council don't talk about

2847
02:33:44,440 --> 02:33:48,840
black and brown people because
their donors have told them to

2848
02:33:48,840 --> 02:33:50,040
do something else.

2849
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:52,520
Shame on you both.

2850
02:33:56,960 --> 02:33:58,560
Midian. Schaffner.

2851
02:33:59,600 --> 02:34:00,520
Followed by Hashem.

2852
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:01,240
Coates.

2853
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:02,400
Good luck.

2854
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:02,880
Hashem.

2855
02:34:03,680 --> 02:34:06,280
Hashem Coates, followed
by Kristin Mallory.

2856
02:34:23,600 --> 02:34:24,880
I echo what was said.

2857
02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:29,000
That Curtis should be here
when he's proposing this.

2858
02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:33,280
It blows my mind that you all
have the audacity to ask the

2859
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:38,440
people to have the same decorum
as elected officials, but yet

2860
02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:41,880
the elected officials don't
have to abide by the same

2861
02:34:41,880 --> 02:34:45,680
regulations that the people
do in order to speak here.

2862
02:34:45,800 --> 02:34:47,400
Hypocrisy sucks.

2863
02:34:48,850 --> 02:34:49,850
I echo

2864
02:34:51,290 --> 02:34:55,890
the disappointment that I have
that that was mentioned as it

2865
02:34:55,890 --> 02:35:00,370
relates to the black members of
this council, ignoring history

2866
02:35:00,490 --> 02:35:02,930
of how environmental racism is

2867
02:35:02,930 --> 02:35:06,250
real, no matter
how much those who.

2868
02:35:07,730 --> 02:35:08,170
Are.

2869
02:35:08,370 --> 02:35:11,770
Pulling strings or those who
have rejected you, and only to

2870
02:35:11,770 --> 02:35:14,290
turn around to you and say yes.

2871
02:35:14,290 --> 02:35:17,970
If you promise not to spit,
you can come be one of us.

2872
02:35:19,410 --> 02:35:25,770
I just don't understand why is
it that people in the community

2873
02:35:25,770 --> 02:35:28,930
always have to be
the one to suffer?

2874
02:35:29,970 --> 02:35:30,850
I don't get it.

2875
02:35:30,890 --> 02:35:34,330
Especially understanding our
history as being human capital.

2876
02:35:41,330 --> 02:35:42,130
Also.

2877
02:35:42,890 --> 02:35:47,370
Yeah. The closed
loop watering system.

2878
02:35:47,370 --> 02:35:48,370
That's cool.

2879
02:35:48,490 --> 02:35:50,810
I don't think any water
should be given to it.

2880
02:35:50,850 --> 02:35:52,330
To hell with the grass.

2881
02:35:52,410 --> 02:35:53,890
To hell with the data centers.

2882
02:35:53,890 --> 02:35:57,010
But it was also given to us
at in disingenuous manner,

2883
02:35:57,050 --> 02:36:00,050
something that it was 20 years
old versus something that would

2884
02:36:00,050 --> 02:36:01,890
be newer and larger.

2885
02:36:02,410 --> 02:36:07,330
Additionally, ignoring the
impact on the heat, the impact

2886
02:36:07,330 --> 02:36:11,530
on the electrical grid, the
fact that the electrical grid,

2887
02:36:11,570 --> 02:36:17,290
this incestuous relationship
with Excel and other entities

2888
02:36:17,290 --> 02:36:20,210
that thrive off of debt,
that are joined in parasitic

2889
02:36:20,210 --> 02:36:24,170
behavior, that require the grid
to be built off of the people.

2890
02:36:24,250 --> 02:36:28,090
But then the profits don't
dwindle down to the people.

2891
02:36:28,410 --> 02:36:29,570
Blows my mind.

2892
02:36:29,610 --> 02:36:32,810
I understand that it's a cost
to do business, but when you

2893
02:36:32,810 --> 02:36:37,130
have record breaking profit, I
don't really give a damn about

2894
02:36:37,130 --> 02:36:40,330
the cost of your business
because it's the people who are

2895
02:36:40,330 --> 02:36:45,090
suffering, and it is the people
who will not forget, and it

2896
02:36:45,090 --> 02:36:50,210
will be the people who will be
there in future endeavors that

2897
02:36:50,210 --> 02:36:51,850
one might have politically,

2898
02:36:52,410 --> 02:36:56,330
that we will
remember the others.

2899
02:36:56,530 --> 02:36:59,410
The corporations will discard
you for the next piece of

2900
02:36:59,410 --> 02:37:03,290
tissue that they can use, and
you have the same value to them

2901
02:37:03,290 --> 02:37:07,050
after they're done using you as
toilet tissue does after it's

2902
02:37:07,050 --> 02:37:08,010
been used.

2903
02:37:11,010 --> 02:37:12,650
I ask you all.

2904
02:37:12,810 --> 02:37:16,770
The environment is the thing
that we never should have to

2905
02:37:16,770 --> 02:37:18,010
argue about.

2906
02:37:18,770 --> 02:37:21,890
What is what is the
harm in waiting?

2907
02:37:22,410 --> 02:37:25,010
What is the harm in
doing the right thing?

2908
02:37:27,690 --> 02:37:30,370
Kristen Mallory followed
by Juan Marcano.

2909
02:37:38,690 --> 02:37:39,610
Hello, Council.

2910
02:37:39,610 --> 02:37:41,450
Kristen Mallory, Ward three.

2911
02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:46,210
Since we're doing this, raise
your hand exercise, I have not

2912
02:37:46,690 --> 02:37:49,690
toured the data center, but
raise your hand if you've hiked

2913
02:37:49,690 --> 02:37:52,250
up into the mountains to
see the empty reservoirs.

2914
02:37:53,250 --> 02:37:54,130
And hear what they have to say.

2915
02:37:55,170 --> 02:37:59,010
Raise your hand if you've gone
to a state park that's supposed

2916
02:37:59,010 --> 02:38:01,130
to have a lake and it is barren.

2917
02:38:03,810 --> 02:38:06,690
Oh, okay, so we
can play that game.

2918
02:38:06,730 --> 02:38:08,130
Some of us didn't raise our

2919
02:38:08,130 --> 02:38:10,090
hands because it's
that important.

2920
02:38:10,970 --> 02:38:14,850
Um, what frustrates me the
most about this conversation?

2921
02:38:14,890 --> 02:38:16,410
You said that we're not honest.

2922
02:38:16,450 --> 02:38:17,970
You're not being honest.

2923
02:38:18,010 --> 02:38:22,330
Using zero gallons of water for
new data centers is less than

2924
02:38:22,330 --> 02:38:23,970
whatever new is coming.

2925
02:38:24,170 --> 02:38:28,530
And what we had 20 years ago
is not the data centers that

2926
02:38:28,530 --> 02:38:30,050
they're building today.

2927
02:38:30,050 --> 02:38:32,210
It's not the data centers the

2928
02:38:32,210 --> 02:38:34,250
AI is going to
use in the future.

2929
02:38:34,650 --> 02:38:38,810
And what we need to do, what
you guys need to do is come up

2930
02:38:38,810 --> 02:38:43,170
with parameters of good
governance to make sure that

2931
02:38:43,210 --> 02:38:44,850
these things are protected.

2932
02:38:46,410 --> 02:38:51,810
A I believe our water manager
talked about another large

2933
02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:52,610
water user.

2934
02:38:52,610 --> 02:38:54,410
Why are they a large water user?

2935
02:38:54,410 --> 02:39:00,730
Why in a drought are we
adding any large water users?

2936
02:39:01,010 --> 02:39:03,050
Do those words not have meaning?

2937
02:39:04,450 --> 02:39:07,610
Because the option is we could
have like we already have large

2938
02:39:07,610 --> 02:39:08,730
water users.

2939
02:39:09,010 --> 02:39:12,010
We're already dealing
with a bottling company.

2940
02:39:12,010 --> 02:39:16,090
That blows my mind that they
are taking our clean water,

2941
02:39:16,090 --> 02:39:19,770
bottling it, and then selling
it back in plastic, and that's

2942
02:39:19,770 --> 02:39:21,330
something that you guys
are already looking at.

2943
02:39:21,330 --> 02:39:23,290
But yet here we can afford

2944
02:39:23,290 --> 02:39:27,010
another large
water user, a user.

2945
02:39:28,770 --> 02:39:32,890
This is like you claimed
that we were dishonest.

2946
02:39:32,930 --> 02:39:36,690
I think you really need to hold
a mirror up to yourself and ask

2947
02:39:36,690 --> 02:39:37,970
if you're being honest.

2948
02:39:37,970 --> 02:39:39,970
And like I said,
I'm not having kids.

2949
02:39:39,970 --> 02:39:41,290
My line is ending.

2950
02:39:41,930 --> 02:39:44,610
This world runs out of water.

2951
02:39:44,650 --> 02:39:45,650
That's fine.

2952
02:39:45,690 --> 02:39:46,690
Me and mine.

2953
02:39:46,850 --> 02:39:48,330
We have solar panels.

2954
02:39:48,330 --> 02:39:49,410
We have a garden.

2955
02:39:49,450 --> 02:39:50,490
We're doing drip lines.

2956
02:39:50,490 --> 02:39:52,650
We're doing all the
things to save the water.

2957
02:39:53,850 --> 02:39:54,650
Your line?

2958
02:39:54,650 --> 02:39:58,210
I don't know the next
generation, I don't know.

2959
02:39:58,330 --> 02:40:01,250
The kids in APS, I don't know.

2960
02:40:01,730 --> 02:40:03,250
I don't know if
they'll have water.

2961
02:40:03,290 --> 02:40:03,930
Do you?

2962
02:40:04,450 --> 02:40:05,690
Do you feel comfortable?

2963
02:40:06,370 --> 02:40:08,490
I mean, these are the
choices that we're asking the

2964
02:40:08,490 --> 02:40:10,050
government to make
for us right now.

2965
02:40:10,090 --> 02:40:10,650
These are.

2966
02:40:10,690 --> 02:40:11,650
This is the time.

2967
02:40:11,650 --> 02:40:12,850
This is the issue.

2968
02:40:13,170 --> 02:40:15,530
And really, we're
running out of water.

2969
02:40:15,730 --> 02:40:16,970
It's no joke.

2970
02:40:16,970 --> 02:40:20,810
So I will take up the offer
to go to our data center.

2971
02:40:20,890 --> 02:40:23,810
I challenge you to
go to our reservoirs.

2972
02:40:23,970 --> 02:40:29,610
See how low they can go and
when the tap doesn't turn on.

2973
02:40:29,730 --> 02:40:31,650
And that's already happening in

2974
02:40:31,650 --> 02:40:34,010
some places you can
think of tonight.

2975
02:40:34,050 --> 02:40:35,010
Thank you.

2976
02:40:35,850 --> 02:40:36,970
Juan Marcano.

2977
02:40:37,010 --> 02:40:39,130
Followed by Christopher Fellows.

2978
02:40:48,770 --> 02:40:49,410
Good evening.

2979
02:40:50,050 --> 02:40:52,530
My name is still Juan Marcano
and I am still a resident of

2980
02:40:52,530 --> 02:40:53,370
Ward four.

2981
02:40:54,090 --> 02:40:55,530
This resolution, to put it

2982
02:40:55,530 --> 02:40:58,130
plainly, misses the
mark as drafted.

2983
02:40:58,130 --> 02:41:01,010
It is designed to put business
interests, which for anyone

2984
02:41:01,010 --> 02:41:05,490
listening means potential
campaign donors first, rather

2985
02:41:05,490 --> 02:41:09,050
than putting the life, health,
property and general welfare of

2986
02:41:09,050 --> 02:41:10,490
Aurora first.

2987
02:41:11,210 --> 02:41:14,210
The purpose of a municipal
government is not to roll over

2988
02:41:14,210 --> 02:41:17,690
and appease whatever fantasy
wealthy speculators pumping a

2989
02:41:17,690 --> 02:41:19,690
massive bubble might have.

2990
02:41:20,130 --> 02:41:23,570
It is to plan for the next
generation and the generation

2991
02:41:23,570 --> 02:41:27,730
after that, to ensure that our
city grows and develops in a

2992
02:41:27,730 --> 02:41:30,090
way that is sustainable
and equitable.

2993
02:41:31,250 --> 02:41:33,650
Councilmember Andrews, I'm
going to address you directly

2994
02:41:34,050 --> 02:41:36,890
Your comments earlier reminded
me of politicians drinking

2995
02:41:36,890 --> 02:41:39,490
fracking fluid to convince
their constituents that that's

2996
02:41:39,490 --> 02:41:40,890
safe and good for us.

2997
02:41:41,050 --> 02:41:43,850
Those antics did not protect
their constituents from the

2998
02:41:43,850 --> 02:41:45,730
health impacts of
polluting industries.

2999
02:41:45,890 --> 02:41:49,010
And these antics are not going
to protect your constituents in

3000
02:41:49,010 --> 02:41:50,970
Aurora, and especially
where you live in Ward two.

3001
02:41:51,010 --> 02:41:52,050
You should know better.

3002
02:41:52,610 --> 02:41:55,570
I also couldn't help but laugh
at one of the recitals about

3003
02:41:55,570 --> 02:41:58,530
the Public Utilities
Commission and energy pricing.

3004
02:41:58,530 --> 02:42:02,250
The PUC has served as a rubber
stamp for Xcel, which I will

3005
02:42:02,250 --> 02:42:03,650
remind everybody listening.

3006
02:42:03,650 --> 02:42:07,650
Everybody on this dais as well
is a pyro is a privately owned,

3007
02:42:07,650 --> 02:42:10,690
publicly traded for
profit corporation.

3008
02:42:10,690 --> 02:42:14,050
It is not a public
utility by any stretch.

3009
02:42:14,930 --> 02:42:19,050
They are excited to have these
kinds of facilities in their

3010
02:42:19,050 --> 02:42:20,890
service area, because that
means more money for them at

3011
02:42:20,890 --> 02:42:21,650
the end of the day.

3012
02:42:21,690 --> 02:42:24,050
They don't give a damn about
what happens to the rest of us.

3013
02:42:24,050 --> 02:42:25,130
They're going to
be raking it in.

3014
02:42:25,130 --> 02:42:26,410
We're going to be paying more.

3015
02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:29,770
So you need to think long
and hard, sir, about your

3016
02:42:29,770 --> 02:42:32,250
constituents, about your
family, about the decisions

3017
02:42:32,250 --> 02:42:32,970
you're making tonight.

3018
02:42:32,970 --> 02:42:35,650
And I strongly encourage you
at the next meeting at your

3019
02:42:35,650 --> 02:42:36,810
earliest convenience.

3020
02:42:37,170 --> 02:42:40,010
Reconsider your decision
tonight and pass these

3021
02:42:40,010 --> 02:42:41,410
protections for our community.

3022
02:42:41,490 --> 02:42:43,370
You do not want this
to be your legacy.

3023
02:42:43,490 --> 02:42:44,530
Have a good night.

3024
02:42:45,410 --> 02:42:46,930
Christopher. Fellows.

3025
02:42:53,090 --> 02:42:55,010
Okay. That was the
last individual.

3026
02:42:55,210 --> 02:42:55,530
Thank you.

3027
02:42:55,530 --> 02:42:56,170
Very well.

3028
02:42:58,570 --> 02:43:00,170
Representation by staff.

3029
02:43:00,530 --> 02:43:01,450
Mayor. I'm sorry.

3030
02:43:01,570 --> 02:43:01,890
Jason.

3031
02:43:03,170 --> 02:43:04,010
Point of privilege.

3032
02:43:04,330 --> 02:43:04,850
Council member.

3033
02:43:04,850 --> 02:43:09,090
Horton, I would like to
continue this resolution for

3034
02:43:09,090 --> 02:43:10,410
next city council meeting.

3035
02:43:11,210 --> 02:43:11,970
Okay.

3036
02:43:12,090 --> 02:43:13,250
Uh, the

3037
02:43:14,570 --> 02:43:16,130
it's been moved by

3038
02:43:16,130 --> 02:43:17,930
Councilmember
Horton, seconded by.

3039
02:43:18,170 --> 02:43:19,450
I can provide my rationale to.

3040
02:43:19,490 --> 02:43:20,130
If that's helpful.

3041
02:43:20,410 --> 02:43:21,370
Okay. Yeah.

3042
02:43:21,410 --> 02:43:21,970
Second.

3043
02:43:22,010 --> 02:43:23,650
Seconded by Mayor Pro Tem to

3044
02:43:23,690 --> 02:43:27,250
continue this to the
next, uh, council.

3045
02:43:27,250 --> 02:43:28,050
Meeting, 24th.

3046
02:43:28,090 --> 02:43:28,650
August.

3047
02:43:28,650 --> 02:43:29,210
24th.

3048
02:43:30,340 --> 02:43:31,500
Yeah. August 24th.

3049
02:43:31,540 --> 02:43:32,060
Mayor.

3050
02:43:32,580 --> 02:43:33,020
Mayor.

3051
02:43:33,420 --> 02:43:33,820
Mayor.

3052
02:43:33,860 --> 02:43:34,900
Gardner. Discussion.

3053
02:43:34,940 --> 02:43:36,260
Okay. Discussion.

3054
02:43:36,340 --> 02:43:37,460
Councilman. Gardner.

3055
02:43:38,300 --> 02:43:41,740
Yeah, I, I just I would
definitely urge a no vote.

3056
02:43:41,780 --> 02:43:45,700
Um, you know, we had an item
that was sprung on our agenda,

3057
02:43:45,740 --> 02:43:48,020
moratorium and resolution
at the last minute.

3058
02:43:48,020 --> 02:43:50,940
And we were told that it was an
emergency and we had to address

3059
02:43:50,940 --> 02:43:52,340
this issue right away.

3060
02:43:52,380 --> 02:43:57,780
And so the hypocrisy of of now
delaying doing anything when

3061
02:43:57,780 --> 02:44:00,620
there's a strict timeline in
the resolution I'm proposing to

3062
02:44:00,660 --> 02:44:06,460
bring forward regulations on
data centers is is insanity.

3063
02:44:06,580 --> 02:44:08,940
Um, you know, there
was a process.

3064
02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:12,780
We have a process policy
committee study session to have

3065
02:44:12,780 --> 02:44:13,780
these conversations.

3066
02:44:14,180 --> 02:44:14,980
Unfortunately,

3067
02:44:16,020 --> 02:44:17,340
that wasn't done.

3068
02:44:17,540 --> 02:44:20,580
I shared my resolution with the
sponsor of that item weeks ago

3069
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:22,060
and offered to work together.

3070
02:44:22,340 --> 02:44:23,820
Uh, we could have
worked together.

3071
02:44:23,820 --> 02:44:25,020
I want to work together.

3072
02:44:25,020 --> 02:44:27,420
I think we have a lot
in common on this issue.

3073
02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:30,660
Um, but to go from being told
this is an emergency and has to

3074
02:44:30,660 --> 02:44:32,820
be done right away
to now we can delay.

3075
02:44:32,820 --> 02:44:35,220
It is the height of hypocrisy.

3076
02:44:36,860 --> 02:44:38,540
Councilmember Horton, thank you.

3077
02:44:38,580 --> 02:44:39,940
Uh, thank you mayor.

3078
02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:40,700
Uh.

3079
02:44:41,900 --> 02:44:42,300
I'm sorry.

3080
02:44:42,340 --> 02:44:44,060
Councilmember Horton,
then, Councilmember Bergen.

3081
02:44:44,060 --> 02:44:44,980
But, Councilmember
Horton, do you.

3082
02:44:44,980 --> 02:44:45,220
Have the.

3083
02:44:45,220 --> 02:44:46,180
Floor? Okay.

3084
02:44:46,300 --> 02:44:50,300
Um, so I appreciate the
transparency and your comments,

3085
02:44:50,300 --> 02:44:51,740
Councilmember Gardner.

3086
02:44:52,060 --> 02:44:55,540
I know I felt confident in
my vote with the previous

3087
02:44:55,580 --> 02:44:58,700
resolution, because
Councilmember Wiles did share

3088
02:44:58,700 --> 02:45:02,580
it with all of council, uh,
a number of times asking for

3089
02:45:02,580 --> 02:45:04,580
feedback through email.

3090
02:45:04,580 --> 02:45:10,580
And I was very surprised to
see this resolution also on the

3091
02:45:10,580 --> 02:45:13,860
agenda today when we got
the packets on Friday.

3092
02:45:13,860 --> 02:45:19,340
And so my request, regardless
of what did or did not happen

3093
02:45:19,660 --> 02:45:22,540
between Councilmember Gardner
and Councilmember Wiles

3094
02:45:22,580 --> 02:45:27,020
previously, is in order to
vote, at least for For me as

3095
02:45:27,060 --> 02:45:28,580
the council member.

3096
02:45:28,700 --> 02:45:33,700
Someone who sits on this dais,
is that that that your work.

3097
02:45:33,700 --> 02:45:36,940
Council member Gardner and
council member Wiles compliment

3098
02:45:36,980 --> 02:45:42,900
each other so we can vote on a
resolution that is robust and

3099
02:45:42,940 --> 02:45:47,060
that understands the complexity
of this issue in real time.

3100
02:45:47,060 --> 02:45:50,300
There are a number of partners
here in this very room that I

3101
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:53,500
know attended the
town hall a month ago.

3102
02:45:53,860 --> 02:45:56,940
Um, you know, we we got
documents from the Pipefitters

3103
02:45:57,460 --> 02:45:59,180
EDC in the room.

3104
02:45:59,300 --> 02:46:03,420
I think there's a there's a lot
of key partners that I'm sure

3105
02:46:03,460 --> 02:46:06,660
are have worked or will
continue to work on this issue.

3106
02:46:06,660 --> 02:46:09,460
And having it come from both
council member Gardner and

3107
02:46:09,460 --> 02:46:12,940
council member Wiles, I
think, allows us to do our due

3108
02:46:12,940 --> 02:46:17,140
diligence by the residents of
Aurora and not have this very

3109
02:46:17,140 --> 02:46:17,820
weird divide.

3110
02:46:17,860 --> 02:46:21,500
This was not I did not
particularly like that.

3111
02:46:21,500 --> 02:46:24,980
We had two resolutions
on the same topic it did.

3112
02:46:25,140 --> 02:46:26,260
That just did not make sense.

3113
02:46:26,260 --> 02:46:30,180
So my request is that we
continue it until next day.

3114
02:46:30,180 --> 02:46:33,220
Counsel for Council member
Gardner and Council member

3115
02:46:33,220 --> 02:46:40,220
Wiles to hopefully collaborate
and and we can vote soundly.

3116
02:46:41,500 --> 02:46:44,340
Um, I recognize oh, I'm sorry,
Councilmember Bergen, that I

3117
02:46:44,340 --> 02:46:45,500
recognize myself.

3118
02:46:46,140 --> 02:46:46,660
Thank you.

3119
02:46:46,700 --> 02:46:47,220
Mayor.

3120
02:46:47,220 --> 02:46:47,860
Um.

3121
02:46:48,700 --> 02:46:49,540
This is interesting.

3122
02:46:49,540 --> 02:46:50,020
Because.

3123
02:46:50,020 --> 02:46:50,460
There was.

3124
02:46:50,460 --> 02:46:53,220
Collaboration between council
member Gardner and council.

3125
02:46:53,260 --> 02:46:54,020
Member Wiles.

3126
02:46:54,060 --> 02:46:55,220
So that's.

3127
02:46:55,220 --> 02:46:55,500
Not.

3128
02:46:55,500 --> 02:46:59,740
True. Um, you know, in
terms of, I believe he did.

3129
02:46:59,740 --> 02:47:01,020
Reach out to council member.

3130
02:47:01,020 --> 02:47:02,100
Wiles to work.

3131
02:47:02,100 --> 02:47:02,700
Together.

3132
02:47:02,700 --> 02:47:03,740
To co-sponsor.

3133
02:47:03,860 --> 02:47:05,820
And it was not accepted.

3134
02:47:05,820 --> 02:47:07,180
So, um.

3135
02:47:07,180 --> 02:47:08,700
His resolution, why would.

3136
02:47:08,700 --> 02:47:09,260
We delay it?

3137
02:47:09,300 --> 02:47:09,980
It basically.

3138
02:47:09,980 --> 02:47:11,580
Addresses what was in the.

3139
02:47:11,580 --> 02:47:12,740
The prior resolution.

3140
02:47:12,740 --> 02:47:15,020
And the fact that the
moratorium was just.

3141
02:47:15,020 --> 02:47:15,380
Pulled.

3142
02:47:15,420 --> 02:47:20,660
Today was, you know, that that
we were getting things at the

3143
02:47:20,660 --> 02:47:24,860
11th hour in terms of the
amendments on the floor, we

3144
02:47:24,860 --> 02:47:26,580
didn't get the
amendments in writing.

3145
02:47:26,900 --> 02:47:31,140
I would urge my colleagues
to vote no on the delay.

3146
02:47:32,540 --> 02:47:33,100
Mayor.

3147
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:40,060
I too would urge a no vote
that these two resolutions were

3148
02:47:40,060 --> 02:47:44,420
identical when it comes to
water, and they're both open

3149
02:47:44,420 --> 02:47:46,100
ended on every other issue that

3150
02:47:46,100 --> 02:47:49,020
it's just the
process is different.

3151
02:47:49,300 --> 02:47:55,060
Where one says is there's not a
time limit on how long it would

3152
02:47:55,060 --> 02:47:57,540
take just to come
back to council.

3153
02:47:58,460 --> 02:48:01,580
On the Gardner one, there
is a time limit for which

3154
02:48:02,660 --> 02:48:03,860
staff has to come back to

3155
02:48:03,900 --> 02:48:05,940
council, and that's
within 30 days.

3156
02:48:05,940 --> 02:48:10,060
And in 30 days we would
have the ability to say,

3157
02:48:11,140 --> 02:48:15,580
um, to opine on it, to say no,
we want to look at additional

3158
02:48:15,580 --> 02:48:20,060
things or this is insufficient,
but it begins the process of

3159
02:48:20,180 --> 02:48:22,300
going back and forth with staff.

3160
02:48:22,300 --> 02:48:24,540
And I think that
that is important.

3161
02:48:24,540 --> 02:48:28,260
And so I don't think it's a
it's there's any reason to

3162
02:48:28,260 --> 02:48:30,540
delay this process
for moving forward.

3163
02:48:30,580 --> 02:48:30,860
Mayor.

3164
02:48:30,900 --> 02:48:31,860
Point of inquiry.

3165
02:48:33,100 --> 02:48:35,180
Um, I already asked
the point of inquiry.

3166
02:48:35,220 --> 02:48:35,700
Mayor.

3167
02:48:35,740 --> 02:48:36,140
Uh.

3168
02:48:36,940 --> 02:48:37,580
I'm sorry.

3169
02:48:37,620 --> 02:48:39,380
What's important then?

3170
02:48:39,380 --> 02:48:40,060
Mayor Pro tem?

3171
02:48:40,060 --> 02:48:40,500
And then.

3172
02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:41,460
Doesn't a.

3173
02:48:41,460 --> 02:48:41,660
Point.

3174
02:48:41,660 --> 02:48:41,780
Of.

3175
02:48:41,940 --> 02:48:42,100
Order.

3176
02:48:42,140 --> 02:48:43,700
Councilmember discussion.

3177
02:48:43,780 --> 02:48:44,180
Council.

3178
02:48:44,220 --> 02:48:44,860
Did you do a point of.

3179
02:48:44,980 --> 02:48:45,820
I did a point of inquiry.

3180
02:48:46,020 --> 02:48:46,620
Okay. Mayor pro.

3181
02:48:46,620 --> 02:48:47,140
Tem. Sorry.

3182
02:48:47,420 --> 02:48:52,380
Um, so, City Manager
Batchelor, just a inquiry.

3183
02:48:52,820 --> 02:48:57,260
Has a back and forth
with staff on this topic.

3184
02:48:57,300 --> 02:49:00,300
Already occurred
with council members.

3185
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:03,940
Yes. I've heard from I think
just about everybody on the

3186
02:49:03,940 --> 02:49:07,380
dais at some point or the other
in terms of, um, what's going

3187
02:49:07,380 --> 02:49:09,980
on with, um, this discussion.

3188
02:49:10,020 --> 02:49:12,380
Okay. And additional
point of inquiry.

3189
02:49:12,380 --> 02:49:16,940
And did you indicate to Council
Member Wiles that it would

3190
02:49:16,940 --> 02:49:21,020
likely take more than 30 days
to complete the necessary steps

3191
02:49:21,340 --> 02:49:24,140
to bring forward the the

3192
02:49:24,140 --> 02:49:25,980
changes that are
being requested.

3193
02:49:26,260 --> 02:49:28,620
Yes, and I guess that's a
good point of clarification.

3194
02:49:28,620 --> 02:49:33,580
I am interpreting Council
member, um, Gardner's, um,

3195
02:49:33,740 --> 02:49:37,100
resolution to direct us
to initiate that process.

3196
02:49:37,100 --> 02:49:42,820
So, um, we will be to study
session, um, in, um, the next

3197
02:49:42,820 --> 02:49:45,500
two meetings to sort
of discuss those.

3198
02:49:45,500 --> 02:49:47,540
Uh, a couple of those items
are more straightforward.

3199
02:49:47,860 --> 02:49:50,420
As we indicated, the
evaporative cooling, I think,

3200
02:49:50,420 --> 02:49:52,380
can move forward pretty quickly.

3201
02:49:52,420 --> 02:49:56,420
We're planning that as a
change to the code section that

3202
02:49:56,420 --> 02:49:57,780
governs water use.

3203
02:49:57,780 --> 02:50:00,220
So it can go straight from
study session, if that's a

3204
02:50:00,220 --> 02:50:02,060
consensus of council
to the floor.

3205
02:50:02,460 --> 02:50:08,940
Um, any Udo changes would need
to, um, go to the Planning and

3206
02:50:08,940 --> 02:50:10,020
Zoning Commission.

3207
02:50:10,180 --> 02:50:13,220
Um, and then since these are
all ordinance changes, there

3208
02:50:13,220 --> 02:50:17,540
has to be proper notification,
uh, To publication dates.

3209
02:50:17,540 --> 02:50:19,460
We've got to make sure
we're meeting all those.

3210
02:50:19,620 --> 02:50:20,060
They have.

3211
02:50:20,100 --> 02:50:21,260
They're all ordinance changes.

3212
02:50:21,260 --> 02:50:22,820
They require two readings.

3213
02:50:22,860 --> 02:50:24,380
Introduction and
then final reading.

3214
02:50:24,380 --> 02:50:27,260
And then there's 30 days
until they are effective.

3215
02:50:27,300 --> 02:50:28,740
30 days ish, 30 days ish.

3216
02:50:28,780 --> 02:50:30,260
Thanks. That's a legal term.

3217
02:50:30,260 --> 02:50:30,860
Thank you sir.

3218
02:50:31,100 --> 02:50:32,820
Well, it's based on publication.

3219
02:50:33,420 --> 02:50:33,700
Mayor.

3220
02:50:33,740 --> 02:50:34,580
Point of order.

3221
02:50:35,420 --> 02:50:35,740
Okay.

3222
02:50:35,780 --> 02:50:36,180
Mayor Pro.

3223
02:50:36,180 --> 02:50:36,540
Tem.

3224
02:50:37,020 --> 02:50:39,020
I have an amendment.

3225
02:50:39,900 --> 02:50:41,260
To the motion to continue.

3226
02:50:42,740 --> 02:50:43,540
Oh, no.

3227
02:50:43,580 --> 02:50:44,380
It's that it would be.

3228
02:50:44,420 --> 02:50:45,140
Councilmember Horton.

3229
02:50:45,140 --> 02:50:45,780
Yeah, this is the.

3230
02:50:45,940 --> 02:50:46,940
That's not a point
of order, okay.

3231
02:50:46,980 --> 02:50:47,700
Councilmember Horton.

3232
02:50:47,700 --> 02:50:48,260
Was not member.

3233
02:50:48,260 --> 02:50:48,860
Horton.

3234
02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:49,340
Yeah.

3235
02:50:49,380 --> 02:50:51,500
Um, I would be.

3236
02:50:51,500 --> 02:50:54,300
Comfortable with
my amendment, um,

3237
02:50:55,460 --> 02:50:58,140
amending that to moving
it to study session.

3238
02:50:58,180 --> 02:51:00,260
Um, I think government is slow

3239
02:51:00,260 --> 02:51:02,340
because we have to
do it with purpose.

3240
02:51:02,580 --> 02:51:04,660
And if we have two council
members who are working on this

3241
02:51:04,660 --> 02:51:08,500
issue that haven't worked
together or whatever dynamics

3242
02:51:08,500 --> 02:51:09,660
have occurred.

3243
02:51:09,900 --> 02:51:15,060
Uh, you I believe you owe the
dais and residents to do your

3244
02:51:15,060 --> 02:51:15,660
due diligence.

3245
02:51:15,660 --> 02:51:18,420
And so I think coming to study
session may give us a better

3246
02:51:18,420 --> 02:51:22,220
opportunity to really hash
through the details and make

3247
02:51:22,260 --> 02:51:26,020
sure we're there's a there's a
resolution that is more sound

3248
02:51:26,260 --> 02:51:28,260
coming to a regular
city council meeting.

3249
02:51:28,300 --> 02:51:29,060
I'm sorry, sir.

3250
02:51:29,260 --> 02:51:31,740
So the amendment to her motion
to continue to be to change it

3251
02:51:31,740 --> 02:51:33,820
to going to a regular council
meeting and going to study

3252
02:51:33,860 --> 02:51:36,620
session on August 24th, and
Mayor pro Tem will use a second

3253
02:51:36,620 --> 02:51:37,940
on that or who is the second?

3254
02:51:37,980 --> 02:51:40,220
Yeah. Do you accept
that from the amendment?

3255
02:51:40,260 --> 02:51:41,180
Yes. Okay.

3256
02:51:41,220 --> 02:51:42,660
So that's the
motion on the floor.

3257
02:51:42,660 --> 02:51:46,140
Now there is a motion to
continue 1186 to a study

3258
02:51:46,180 --> 02:51:47,980
session on August 24th.

3259
02:51:48,020 --> 02:51:49,140
Well, doesn't have to.

3260
02:51:49,460 --> 02:51:49,860
Okay.

3261
02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:51,900
It's it's a motion that
the council will vote on.

3262
02:51:51,940 --> 02:51:53,540
Now, once the
question is called.

3263
02:51:53,580 --> 02:51:54,180
Okay.

3264
02:51:54,660 --> 02:51:55,460
Discussion.

3265
02:51:56,060 --> 02:51:57,900
Mayor. Council member.

3266
02:51:57,900 --> 02:51:59,740
So I guess my question is

3267
02:52:00,940 --> 02:52:02,100
to council member Wiles.

3268
02:52:02,100 --> 02:52:04,180
And I know we don't go to
policy committees anymore or

3269
02:52:04,180 --> 02:52:07,180
whatever, but why didn't this
go to a policy committee?

3270
02:52:07,220 --> 02:52:10,540
Because maybe we could have
averted a lot of this, this

3271
02:52:10,540 --> 02:52:12,380
confusion and all of this?

3272
02:52:12,580 --> 02:52:14,540
Um, I really don't understand.

3273
02:52:14,540 --> 02:52:16,940
Councilmember Gardner's has.

3274
02:52:17,260 --> 02:52:20,260
I mean, it seems like he tried
to work with you, and you were

3275
02:52:20,260 --> 02:52:24,620
like, no, you you were you were
like, no, you didn't want you

3276
02:52:24,620 --> 02:52:25,540
didn't really want to work with

3277
02:52:25,540 --> 02:52:26,940
him because you
wanted to be your.

3278
02:52:26,980 --> 02:52:27,300
Okay.

3279
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:29,380
So am.

3280
02:52:29,380 --> 02:52:30,380
I not entirely.

3281
02:52:30,380 --> 02:52:30,580
True.

3282
02:52:30,620 --> 02:52:32,660
Can I can I just finish so.

3283
02:52:33,060 --> 02:52:33,780
So okay.

3284
02:52:34,180 --> 02:52:36,540
But it seems like
Council Member Gardner's.

3285
02:52:36,900 --> 02:52:38,140
Excuse me.

3286
02:52:39,180 --> 02:52:41,140
Um, that's just unacceptable.

3287
02:52:41,180 --> 02:52:41,940
Really?

3288
02:52:41,980 --> 02:52:44,540
He's rude to me anyway,
mayor, but it's just rude.

3289
02:52:44,580 --> 02:52:45,180
If it happens.

3290
02:52:45,220 --> 02:52:46,540
Again, you're going out.

3291
02:52:47,140 --> 02:52:48,260
You know.

3292
02:52:48,260 --> 02:52:49,020
Somebody's going to send.

3293
02:52:49,020 --> 02:52:49,180
You out.

3294
02:52:49,220 --> 02:52:49,980
City manager will.

3295
02:52:49,980 --> 02:52:51,020
I wouldn't love that.

3296
02:52:51,060 --> 02:52:53,580
I guess what I'm trying to ask
is Councilmember Gardner's has

3297
02:52:53,580 --> 02:52:54,940
some of the same parameters,

3298
02:52:55,340 --> 02:52:57,340
um, that you set forth in yours.

3299
02:52:57,380 --> 02:52:59,140
Um, he put some
safeguards in there.

3300
02:52:59,140 --> 02:53:02,220
I'm just trying to figure out
from your perspective what is a

3301
02:53:02,220 --> 02:53:05,140
little bit different about
yours compared to what we're

3302
02:53:05,140 --> 02:53:07,420
seeing on Council
Member Gardner's mayor?

3303
02:53:07,420 --> 02:53:10,180
So it's this is not to the

3304
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:12,470
question of
continuing the motion.

3305
02:53:12,510 --> 02:53:13,790
Correct. Okay.

3306
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:14,590
It's not germane.

3307
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:15,870
The question is not germane

3308
02:53:17,230 --> 02:53:19,150
to further discussion.

3309
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:21,190
Further discussion
to the motion.

3310
02:53:21,790 --> 02:53:22,390
Mayor.

3311
02:53:22,830 --> 02:53:24,270
Um. Councilmember Bergen.

3312
02:53:25,070 --> 02:53:25,710
It didn't go to.

3313
02:53:25,750 --> 02:53:27,230
Study session to begin with.

3314
02:53:27,270 --> 02:53:29,910
So why are we going to have
it go to the study session now

3315
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:32,150
after we've had all
this communication?

3316
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:33,710
I'm a no.

3317
02:53:33,790 --> 02:53:34,710
Well. Mayor.

3318
02:53:34,750 --> 02:53:35,390
Mayor.

3319
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:36,510
Mayor, I.

3320
02:53:36,510 --> 02:53:36,790
Believe.

3321
02:53:37,350 --> 02:53:37,950
A question.

3322
02:53:37,950 --> 02:53:38,790
Kurtis Gardner.

3323
02:53:38,830 --> 02:53:41,550
Did your resolution go to, um,

3324
02:53:41,590 --> 02:53:44,030
a policy committee
or study session?

3325
02:53:47,670 --> 02:53:49,190
But this would go to this.

3326
02:53:49,230 --> 02:53:49,950
This would go to this.

3327
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:52,030
This one will go to the
study if this motion passes.

3328
02:53:52,230 --> 02:53:53,470
Right. Yeah.

3329
02:53:53,670 --> 02:53:54,030
Correct.

3330
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:57,470
This did not go to a policy
committee or study session.

3331
02:53:57,510 --> 02:53:57,790
Okay.

3332
02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:59,350
Thank you for that
clarification.

3333
02:53:59,350 --> 02:54:03,270
I also believe it up to
Council member Wiles.

3334
02:54:03,550 --> 02:54:06,550
Uh, there's a lot of
accusations thrown, and we're

3335
02:54:06,550 --> 02:54:10,430
hearing, you know, very solidly
from one side and perspective.

3336
02:54:11,070 --> 02:54:12,310
So I don't know, council member

3337
02:54:12,310 --> 02:54:14,190
Wiles, if you'd you
want to say your.

3338
02:54:14,190 --> 02:54:14,550
Piece.

3339
02:54:14,590 --> 02:54:15,310
To the motion.

3340
02:54:15,310 --> 02:54:17,150
We're going to stay
with the motion here.

3341
02:54:17,470 --> 02:54:19,950
Okay. Further discussion.

3342
02:54:21,110 --> 02:54:22,790
Seeing none call
for the question.

3343
02:54:23,870 --> 02:54:28,950
Uh, on the motion to to send
it to study session continue.

3344
02:54:28,950 --> 02:54:32,310
1186 to study session on
August 24th, which is the next

3345
02:54:32,310 --> 02:54:33,670
regularly scheduled
council meeting.

3346
02:54:33,710 --> 02:54:34,190
Okay.

3347
02:54:37,550 --> 02:54:38,590
Mayor Kaufman.

3348
02:54:41,070 --> 02:54:41,830
Um.

3349
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:45,630
Um. Mayor.

3350
02:54:45,630 --> 02:54:46,390
Race. No.

3351
02:54:47,390 --> 02:54:48,030
Council member.

3352
02:54:48,030 --> 02:54:48,830
Jackson.

3353
02:54:51,190 --> 02:54:51,830
Council member.

3354
02:54:51,830 --> 02:54:52,670
Votes. Yes.

3355
02:54:55,310 --> 02:54:58,270
The motion does not pass
with five yes votes.

3356
02:54:58,270 --> 02:54:59,550
Six no votes.

3357
02:54:59,550 --> 02:55:02,670
To continue the item to the
August 24th study session.

3358
02:55:03,030 --> 02:55:05,430
About now or to
the motion itself.

3359
02:55:05,430 --> 02:55:06,630
Original motion.

3360
02:55:07,270 --> 02:55:09,310
So there is no original motion.

3361
02:55:09,310 --> 02:55:10,110
Uh, mayor.

3362
02:55:10,350 --> 02:55:11,150
Uh, sorry.

3363
02:55:11,190 --> 02:55:15,310
Yeah. So, uh, the next step, if
council wants to hear from it,

3364
02:55:15,310 --> 02:55:18,630
would be a brief presentation
by Mr. Batchelor, because that

3365
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:19,390
was what happened.

3366
02:55:19,430 --> 02:55:19,870
Okay.

3367
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:21,870
And then we would go
into a regular motion.

3368
02:55:21,990 --> 02:55:23,310
Presentation by staff.

3369
02:55:24,390 --> 02:55:24,750
Thank you.

3370
02:55:24,790 --> 02:55:27,710
So as I indicated in one
of the earlier responses.

3371
02:55:27,870 --> 02:55:32,390
Staff is interpreting this, um,
to be in terms of that timeline

3372
02:55:32,390 --> 02:55:36,990
that we would need to bring
those items back to all of

3373
02:55:36,990 --> 02:55:38,710
council at study session.

3374
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:43,790
Um, and so I do think I would
request a slight amendment to

3375
02:55:43,830 --> 02:55:47,030
this, uh, from the
sponsor, it says 30 days.

3376
02:55:47,110 --> 02:55:50,030
Um, I'd like to spread
this out over two meetings.

3377
02:55:50,310 --> 02:55:53,310
Um, so if we could get to 35
days, that allows us to get to

3378
02:55:53,310 --> 02:55:55,350
the first meeting in September.

3379
02:55:55,550 --> 02:55:57,870
Um, given the breadth of topics
here, I think we could bring

3380
02:55:57,870 --> 02:55:59,990
the evaporative cooling and
some of the basic zoning

3381
02:55:59,990 --> 02:56:03,230
questions to the second meeting
in August, and then we would

3382
02:56:03,230 --> 02:56:08,590
come back to the first meeting
in September with a discussion

3383
02:56:08,590 --> 02:56:12,270
of setbacks screening the
other items noted in here.

3384
02:56:12,270 --> 02:56:14,910
So I think that is
staff's preference.

3385
02:56:14,950 --> 02:56:17,870
Um, if it if it
stays at 30 days.

3386
02:56:17,910 --> 02:56:20,190
That gives us one meeting and
we'd have to bring everything

3387
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:21,950
to the to the next
meeting in two weeks.

3388
02:56:21,950 --> 02:56:24,950
So that's a request from staff.

3389
02:56:25,350 --> 02:56:26,910
And then as I indicated

3390
02:56:26,910 --> 02:56:29,230
earlier, the water
item can move.

3391
02:56:29,390 --> 02:56:33,590
Assuming there's consensus, it
can move directly forward to

3392
02:56:33,870 --> 02:56:34,950
the council meeting.

3393
02:56:35,070 --> 02:56:39,070
Anything that as in the Udo
per code Planning and Zoning

3394
02:56:39,070 --> 02:56:40,990
Commission needs to weigh
in with the recommendation.

3395
02:56:41,030 --> 02:56:45,190
So we would get it scheduled
in, um, with the planning and

3396
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:47,310
Zoning Commission to make a
recommendation, and we would

3397
02:56:47,310 --> 02:56:49,310
bring that forward
with the first reading.

3398
02:56:49,550 --> 02:56:51,990
And then that would also give
us time to do the appropriate

3399
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:53,870
public notices for the

3400
02:56:53,870 --> 02:56:55,350
introduction of
those ordinances.

3401
02:56:56,350 --> 02:56:56,990
Very well.

3402
02:56:56,990 --> 02:56:57,430
Um.

3403
02:56:59,470 --> 02:57:00,550
For the discussion.

3404
02:57:00,750 --> 02:57:01,350
Mayor.

3405
02:57:01,510 --> 02:57:02,670
Uh, Councilmember Wilson.

3406
02:57:02,990 --> 02:57:03,990
I just have a question.

3407
02:57:03,990 --> 02:57:06,910
For the city, for Pete,
about section two.

3408
02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:10,230
I know that when we wrote
mine, there were some specific

3409
02:57:10,230 --> 02:57:11,390
language we had to use.

3410
02:57:11,390 --> 02:57:12,590
So I'm just curious.

3411
02:57:14,670 --> 02:57:16,350
Is section two like

3412
02:57:17,430 --> 02:57:20,630
correct based on some of
the discussions we had?

3413
02:57:20,670 --> 02:57:24,910
Is it like legally defensible
I guess, or I don't know.

3414
02:57:24,950 --> 02:57:27,670
Just because based on
discussions we had repeatedly

3415
02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:28,590
about mine.

3416
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:28,830
Yeah.

3417
02:57:29,150 --> 02:57:30,390
We awarded a certain way.

3418
02:57:30,590 --> 02:57:31,350
That's a good question.

3419
02:57:31,350 --> 02:57:34,110
What I would tell you is I
would recommend that if council

3420
02:57:34,110 --> 02:57:36,710
is is supposed to pass this
resolution that we move, we

3421
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:40,310
remove section two altogether
because this is a resolution

3422
02:57:40,390 --> 02:57:41,670
and not an ordinance.

3423
02:57:42,310 --> 02:57:46,350
Any changes to the code that
come before a data center

3424
02:57:46,350 --> 02:57:47,830
application is final?

3425
02:57:47,870 --> 02:57:49,230
There's a site plan.

3426
02:57:49,230 --> 02:57:52,790
Everything else will be
affected by any code changes

3427
02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:53,870
council brings forward.

3428
02:57:53,870 --> 02:57:55,230
So unless otherwise addressed.

3429
02:57:55,310 --> 02:57:56,350
Unless otherwise addressed.

3430
02:57:56,350 --> 02:57:57,990
Right. But I just
want to be clear.

3431
02:57:57,990 --> 02:57:58,630
I don't want that.

3432
02:57:58,630 --> 02:58:01,910
I don't want section two to
as I'm reading it, and I don't

3433
02:58:01,910 --> 02:58:04,710
want it to send any false
promises to anybody out there,

3434
02:58:04,710 --> 02:58:07,750
any developers that are looking
to do a data center that they

3435
02:58:07,830 --> 02:58:10,190
that they shall apply
if they have not filed a

3436
02:58:10,190 --> 02:58:11,110
pre-application meeting?

3437
02:58:11,150 --> 02:58:13,350
Filing a pre-application
meeting doesn't doesn't mean

3438
02:58:13,350 --> 02:58:16,590
that there they put a stop gap
into this is the code that I've

3439
02:58:16,590 --> 02:58:18,270
got to comply with today.

3440
02:58:18,270 --> 02:58:20,590
If it changes before they
get their application in and

3441
02:58:20,590 --> 02:58:24,110
submitted and approved any
future changes by the City

3442
02:58:24,110 --> 02:58:25,190
Council under the Udo.

3443
02:58:25,230 --> 02:58:28,630
And correct me if I'm wrong,
Deputy City Attorney Alan, um,

3444
02:58:28,670 --> 02:58:32,430
would apply to the data centers
that are that are forthcoming.

3445
02:58:32,430 --> 02:58:33,550
So I just want to make
sure that's clear.

3446
02:58:33,550 --> 02:58:35,510
I would ask Council if you're
going to pass a resolution to

3447
02:58:35,510 --> 02:58:36,630
remove section two.

3448
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:37,630
Is that correct?

3449
02:58:37,670 --> 02:58:38,110
Rachel.

3450
02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:39,830
That's correct.

3451
02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:41,350
Mayor.

3452
02:58:41,910 --> 02:58:42,310
Mayor Pro.

3453
02:58:42,310 --> 02:58:42,590
Tem.

3454
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:44,070
Well, there's no
motion on the board.

3455
02:58:44,270 --> 02:58:47,750
Well, I do have just a question
about the legal component then,

3456
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:51,670
because my understanding was
that section two was there to

3457
02:58:51,710 --> 02:58:56,550
kind of assure counsel that
people can't just hop in line

3458
02:58:56,550 --> 02:59:00,030
to hold their spot for
the current regulations.

3459
02:59:00,190 --> 02:59:06,750
So if someone were to file
before we adopt all of the

3460
02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:09,190
regulations, then it would be

3461
02:59:09,190 --> 02:59:11,310
considered legislating
retroactively.

3462
02:59:11,870 --> 02:59:15,950
If we tried to apply those
regulations to an application

3463
02:59:15,950 --> 02:59:17,950
that was already in the
process at that time.

3464
02:59:17,950 --> 02:59:20,830
If an application has been
filed but a pre-application

3465
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:23,110
meeting does not mean an
application is filed, it is

3466
02:59:23,110 --> 02:59:25,630
meeting with staff to make
sure that they have all the

3467
02:59:25,630 --> 02:59:26,950
requirements that they need to

3468
02:59:26,990 --> 02:59:29,070
plan to get their
application done.

3469
02:59:29,110 --> 02:59:32,190
They do have their application
submitted and they submitted it

3470
02:59:32,230 --> 02:59:33,750
into the current code before

3471
02:59:33,750 --> 02:59:35,310
those ordinances go into effect.

3472
02:59:35,350 --> 02:59:38,310
Yes. Then they would be subject
to the code at the time that

3473
02:59:38,310 --> 02:59:39,390
they submitted the application.

3474
02:59:39,390 --> 02:59:42,350
But the way this is written
with a pre-application meeting,

3475
02:59:42,350 --> 02:59:45,830
it would say that that doesn't
give anybody any safeguards

3476
02:59:45,830 --> 02:59:47,790
because they don't have
an application on file.

3477
02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:53,510
Okay. So just to clarify,
if we pass this resolution

3478
02:59:55,990 --> 03:00:00,310
Anyone can still submit a data
center application under our

3479
03:00:00,310 --> 03:00:05,390
current code, all the way up
until we've actually passed the

3480
03:00:05,390 --> 03:00:06,510
subsequent codes.

3481
03:00:06,510 --> 03:00:08,190
Correct. There is no moratorium

3482
03:00:08,190 --> 03:00:09,870
language in this
particular resolution.

3483
03:00:09,870 --> 03:00:13,350
There is no, um,
halting of applications.

3484
03:00:13,390 --> 03:00:16,590
If somebody if a developer
is able to get a completed

3485
03:00:16,590 --> 03:00:19,950
application submitted
and accepted by the city.

3486
03:00:19,950 --> 03:00:22,150
And that's another key word
that we're talking about under

3487
03:00:22,150 --> 03:00:26,910
1185 accepted by the city,
which means water compliance,

3488
03:00:27,070 --> 03:00:30,270
electric, all those things
that we require, um, if they're

3489
03:00:30,270 --> 03:00:31,390
required in the application

3490
03:00:31,390 --> 03:00:33,710
process, then yes,
they would be.

3491
03:00:33,790 --> 03:00:36,150
They would rush to, to work

3492
03:00:36,190 --> 03:00:38,590
away from any
changes in the code.

3493
03:00:38,830 --> 03:00:42,310
Again, we've heard from both
discussions that these are not

3494
03:00:42,350 --> 03:00:45,030
just file a single sheet of
paper and get your application.

3495
03:00:45,030 --> 03:00:47,670
And they're very you've got to
make sure you have land that

3496
03:00:47,670 --> 03:00:51,030
you either own or have a,
uh, have a right to build on.

3497
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:52,590
You have to have a site plan.

3498
03:00:52,630 --> 03:00:55,270
You have to have, Um, you know,

3499
03:00:55,310 --> 03:00:57,270
meeting any master
plan requirements.

3500
03:00:57,470 --> 03:01:00,550
So again, I think that's one of
the reasons why I won't speak

3501
03:01:00,550 --> 03:01:02,070
for Council Member Gardner
if he wants to speak up.

3502
03:01:02,070 --> 03:01:03,840
I think that's one of the
reasons why he had put the 30

3503
03:01:03,840 --> 03:01:07,150
or 35 days into the resolution,
as he wanted to get these

3504
03:01:07,150 --> 03:01:10,710
things put in place quickly,
because the reality is, is,

3505
03:01:10,710 --> 03:01:13,630
under my understanding, from
the legal side, the ability to

3506
03:01:13,670 --> 03:01:17,030
get a data center completed
application to the city is

3507
03:01:17,030 --> 03:01:20,670
going to take a lot longer
than 60 days, which would give

3508
03:01:20,710 --> 03:01:23,590
council time to do what they
want to do with the Udo, which

3509
03:01:23,590 --> 03:01:24,550
is why I think Councilmember

3510
03:01:24,550 --> 03:01:26,110
Gardner put the
30 days in there.

3511
03:01:27,390 --> 03:01:28,390
Do we have a motion?

3512
03:01:28,870 --> 03:01:30,910
Um, Councilmember Berger,

3513
03:01:32,390 --> 03:01:33,110
um.

3514
03:01:33,510 --> 03:01:33,910
Make a motion.

3515
03:01:33,910 --> 03:01:34,630
You want to make the motion?

3516
03:01:34,630 --> 03:01:35,990
Yeah, we want to make a motion.

3517
03:01:36,030 --> 03:01:37,590
Okay. Um, I,

3518
03:01:38,870 --> 03:01:40,950
I think staff offered
some amendments.

3519
03:01:41,350 --> 03:01:41,910
Um,

3520
03:01:43,150 --> 03:01:45,630
uh, let me offer one amendment

3521
03:01:45,630 --> 03:01:47,870
first and that by
the city manager.

3522
03:01:47,910 --> 03:01:49,110
Well, let's get a motion first.

3523
03:01:49,150 --> 03:01:51,470
Okay. Um, motion is in order.

3524
03:01:52,030 --> 03:01:53,960
Mayor. Motion to approve 1186.

3525
03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:56,200
It's been moved by
Councilmember Garner.

3526
03:01:56,200 --> 03:01:58,080
Second by second by

3527
03:01:58,120 --> 03:02:00,240
Councilmember
Hancock to approve.

3528
03:02:00,760 --> 03:02:01,040
Um,

3529
03:02:02,320 --> 03:02:03,600
okay. All right.

3530
03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:06,120
Okay. Um.

3531
03:02:06,560 --> 03:02:06,920
So no.

3532
03:02:06,920 --> 03:02:08,360
Amendments. Approve 1186

3533
03:02:09,400 --> 03:02:10,200
amendments.

3534
03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:13,200
Wait, don't we need a motion?

3535
03:02:13,320 --> 03:02:13,720
It is.

3536
03:02:13,760 --> 03:02:14,680
Moved. Okay.

3537
03:02:14,840 --> 03:02:16,400
Um. Sorry.

3538
03:02:16,600 --> 03:02:18,640
Uh, yes.

3539
03:02:18,680 --> 03:02:19,440
So,

3540
03:02:21,040 --> 03:02:24,120
Councilmember Gardner, as
friendly amendments, the 35

3541
03:02:24,120 --> 03:02:29,000
days requested by staff and
the striking of section two.

3542
03:02:31,560 --> 03:02:33,440
I'll accept those as
friendly amendments.

3543
03:02:34,160 --> 03:02:35,240
Okay. Very well.

3544
03:02:35,280 --> 03:02:37,040
Um, okay.

3545
03:02:37,560 --> 03:02:38,000
So now.

3546
03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:41,360
So now the resolution your
mayor eliminated six is section

3547
03:02:41,360 --> 03:02:42,120
two is stricken.

3548
03:02:42,120 --> 03:02:46,000
And then it does give the city
manager 35 days to bring the

3549
03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:46,920
ordinances forward.

3550
03:02:46,960 --> 03:02:48,720
Okay. And we don't
have to vote on that.

3551
03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:49,160
It's friendly.

3552
03:02:49,320 --> 03:02:49,760
It's friendly.

3553
03:02:50,160 --> 03:02:50,600
Yeah. Okay.

3554
03:02:50,640 --> 03:02:52,120
So. Okay.

3555
03:02:52,240 --> 03:02:54,040
Um. Further discussion.

3556
03:02:54,080 --> 03:02:54,760
Mayor.

3557
03:02:56,120 --> 03:02:56,680
I have.

3558
03:02:56,720 --> 03:02:56,880
A.

3559
03:02:57,400 --> 03:02:57,920
Council member.

3560
03:02:58,200 --> 03:02:58,720
I'm sorry.

3561
03:02:58,760 --> 03:03:00,040
And then Mayor pro tem.

3562
03:03:01,240 --> 03:03:01,960
Councilmember Burton.

3563
03:03:02,880 --> 03:03:07,400
Well, I just wanted to talk
about the actual resolution,

3564
03:03:07,400 --> 03:03:09,500
but I'll wait until at 5

3565
03:03:09,500 --> 03:03:11,240
million other
amendments are made.

3566
03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:13,240
To the resolution, as amended.

3567
03:03:15,840 --> 03:03:16,520
Mayor.

3568
03:03:16,880 --> 03:03:17,520
Mayor pro tem.

3569
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:20,440
So I do have an
additional amendment.

3570
03:03:20,720 --> 03:03:25,920
Um, and that is to section B.

3571
03:03:26,880 --> 03:03:32,080
Um, one of the items that
Councilmember Wiles included in

3572
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:35,080
her resolution that's not
included here, that was

3573
03:03:35,080 --> 03:03:37,400
specifically requested by staff

3574
03:03:37,400 --> 03:03:40,000
as a topic that
council should discuss.

3575
03:03:40,120 --> 03:03:44,080
And to be clear, that's what
section one entails is not what

3576
03:03:44,080 --> 03:03:48,240
we're going to do, but what we
need to discuss is special or

3577
03:03:48,280 --> 03:03:51,880
conditional use permits
within the zoning.

3578
03:03:51,880 --> 03:03:58,760
So I would like to amend
section B to include a special

3579
03:03:58,760 --> 03:04:02,720
or conditional use
permits after a.

3580
03:04:04,840 --> 03:04:05,560
Um.

3581
03:04:08,240 --> 03:04:09,600
A p zone.

3582
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:10,400
Districts.

3583
03:04:10,520 --> 03:04:12,560
Okay. If I could ask this.

3584
03:04:12,920 --> 03:04:13,280
Sorry.

3585
03:04:13,320 --> 03:04:13,920
No. I'm sorry.

3586
03:04:13,960 --> 03:04:14,720
It's a little bit weird.

3587
03:04:14,760 --> 03:04:16,760
These I did not plan, so
I'm trying to figure out.

3588
03:04:16,760 --> 03:04:18,280
How to navigate on
the fly, trying.

3589
03:04:18,920 --> 03:04:23,320
To establish a special or
conditional use permit.

3590
03:04:23,320 --> 03:04:26,640
So that'll go before setbacks
and landscape buffers.

3591
03:04:26,680 --> 03:04:27,040
Let me.

3592
03:04:27,400 --> 03:04:29,440
If I could just ask a quick
question, the city attorney

3593
03:04:29,440 --> 03:04:35,440
about that and that section
C says address any additional

3594
03:04:35,440 --> 03:04:39,240
issues as may be deemed
necessary and appropriate by

3595
03:04:39,240 --> 03:04:41,160
the city manager that are not

3596
03:04:41,160 --> 03:04:42,600
inconsistent with
the resolution.

3597
03:04:42,640 --> 03:04:44,360
Okay. That says by
the city manager.

3598
03:04:44,400 --> 03:04:44,640
Sure.

3599
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:47,560
Correct. So this could be if
the city manager could state

3600
03:04:47,560 --> 03:04:49,920
that conditional use permits.

3601
03:04:49,960 --> 03:04:54,520
Jason, I would say that you
would find that, uh, as a as an

3602
03:04:54,520 --> 03:04:56,840
interesting as a required
thing to talk about.

3603
03:04:56,880 --> 03:04:57,560
Is that fair?

3604
03:04:57,800 --> 03:04:59,120
Yes, I think I think
we've heard that.

3605
03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:01,200
I think there's a couple other
things that we will bring

3606
03:05:01,200 --> 03:05:04,640
forward to study session for,
um, discussion and direction.

3607
03:05:04,680 --> 03:05:05,360
Okay.

3608
03:05:05,400 --> 03:05:07,520
Is that accept your.

3609
03:05:07,560 --> 03:05:11,200
Okay. So that covers, I think,
what Mayor Pro tem was going to

3610
03:05:11,240 --> 03:05:12,120
ask to be included.

3611
03:05:12,160 --> 03:05:14,160
Okay. So we're not going
forward with an amendment.

3612
03:05:14,200 --> 03:05:15,040
Another amendment.

3613
03:05:15,080 --> 03:05:17,000
Okay. Um.

3614
03:05:17,040 --> 03:05:18,240
Further discussion.

3615
03:05:19,280 --> 03:05:21,040
Seeing none, call for the mayor.

3616
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:22,960
I'm sorry,
Councilmember Gardner.

3617
03:05:23,640 --> 03:05:24,440
Thanks, mayor.

3618
03:05:24,480 --> 03:05:25,440
Um, yeah.

3619
03:05:25,440 --> 03:05:28,280
So a couple of things I
just want to follow up on.

3620
03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:33,400
Um, you know, I think I'm glad
to see that there seems to be

3621
03:05:33,400 --> 03:05:36,120
general consensus on this
council, uh, in terms of

3622
03:05:36,120 --> 03:05:37,320
addressing this issue.

3623
03:05:37,760 --> 03:05:38,840
Um, you know, I'm not going to

3624
03:05:38,880 --> 03:05:40,880
rehash the process
issues, though.

3625
03:05:40,880 --> 03:05:43,160
I wish the process
issues has been followed.

3626
03:05:43,160 --> 03:05:43,680
At this point.

3627
03:05:43,680 --> 03:05:46,360
I'd prefer to not have policy
committees since we don't use

3628
03:05:46,360 --> 03:05:47,360
them anyways.

3629
03:05:47,680 --> 03:05:50,640
Um, you know, I do want to
thank Council member Wiles for

3630
03:05:50,640 --> 03:05:51,640
her work on this because I know

3631
03:05:51,640 --> 03:05:53,280
she's done a lot
of work on this.

3632
03:05:53,520 --> 03:05:57,120
Um, I, you know, and I will say
I resent the implication from

3633
03:05:57,120 --> 03:06:00,240
some of my other colleagues
that I didn't and I don't know

3634
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:02,200
what I'm talking about
and haven't done the work.

3635
03:06:02,280 --> 03:06:05,000
Um, because that was said a
couple times tonight, which is

3636
03:06:05,040 --> 03:06:06,280
is rather offensive.

3637
03:06:06,320 --> 03:06:08,040
Um, but that's fine.

3638
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:09,080
That's politics.

3639
03:06:09,120 --> 03:06:12,080
Um, you know, I think in
general, I'm looking forward to

3640
03:06:12,120 --> 03:06:16,160
coming up with some appropriate
safeguards to ensure that we

3641
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:19,840
protect both our residents and
also ensure that Aurora stays a

3642
03:06:19,840 --> 03:06:20,720
business friendly city.

3643
03:06:20,760 --> 03:06:24,920
We have consistently over the
last several months, and with

3644
03:06:24,960 --> 03:06:28,080
more to come, done things
to create uncertainty for

3645
03:06:28,080 --> 03:06:29,640
businesses that
operate in our city.

3646
03:06:29,640 --> 03:06:32,360
And, you know, some people
would say, well, those are just

3647
03:06:32,360 --> 03:06:33,560
businesses we don't want here.

3648
03:06:33,560 --> 03:06:35,760
But the thing businesses
don't want is uncertainty.

3649
03:06:35,800 --> 03:06:37,960
They want to operate within
a certain environment.

3650
03:06:38,400 --> 03:06:41,280
Uh, and they don't want they
can handle regulation, but they

3651
03:06:41,280 --> 03:06:42,560
can't handle this uncertainty.

3652
03:06:42,600 --> 03:06:45,720
and at a certain point, we can
run off all the businesses that

3653
03:06:45,720 --> 03:06:48,040
we don't want here, and we're
going to be left finding that

3654
03:06:48,040 --> 03:06:50,680
no businesses want to come
here because they realize that

3655
03:06:50,680 --> 03:06:52,400
Aurora changes the
rules midstream.

3656
03:06:52,400 --> 03:06:56,160
And so, you know, I think we'll
be able to come up with some

3657
03:06:56,160 --> 03:06:59,400
safeguards that both protect
our residents and that the data

3658
03:06:59,440 --> 03:07:02,200
center community can live with.

3659
03:07:02,320 --> 03:07:05,320
I've had a lot of conversations
with those folks, and I think

3660
03:07:05,320 --> 03:07:07,440
there's some reasonable things
that we can come up with.

3661
03:07:07,480 --> 03:07:10,080
We are in a different situation
than some of our neighboring

3662
03:07:10,080 --> 03:07:12,480
communities that have
put moratoriums in place.

3663
03:07:12,480 --> 03:07:15,640
We don't allow data centers in
residential areas, for example.

3664
03:07:15,640 --> 03:07:18,560
And so, um, you know, my
hope is that going forward,

3665
03:07:18,560 --> 03:07:21,040
Councilmember Wildes and I can
work together on some of these

3666
03:07:21,040 --> 03:07:25,080
issues because I think there is
a lot of common ground, and I

3667
03:07:25,120 --> 03:07:27,480
hope the rest of this council
can can agree with some of the

3668
03:07:27,480 --> 03:07:28,880
things we're able
to come up with.

3669
03:07:30,400 --> 03:07:30,880
Mayor.

3670
03:07:31,640 --> 03:07:32,520
Councilmember Burger.

3671
03:07:33,600 --> 03:07:37,520
Yeah, I just want to say that
really, we should be we should

3672
03:07:37,800 --> 03:07:41,000
ensure that any business that
wants to locate in our city is

3673
03:07:41,000 --> 03:07:44,360
compatible with zoning, water
use restrictions and other

3674
03:07:44,360 --> 03:07:46,840
environmental concerns.

3675
03:07:46,840 --> 03:07:51,040
But this started out as a
moratorium, and a lot of these

3676
03:07:51,040 --> 03:07:53,680
businesses have already
invested millions of dollars in

3677
03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:55,160
choosing to locate in our city.

3678
03:07:55,160 --> 03:07:56,040
So it's not.

3679
03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:58,240
It's a really poor
business practice.

3680
03:07:58,600 --> 03:08:00,520
As Councilmember Gardner just

3681
03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:02,440
alluded to in terms
of predictability.

3682
03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:05,680
And you don't have a business
invest time and money, um,

3683
03:08:05,720 --> 03:08:08,160
after meeting our zoning
and understanding of our

3684
03:08:08,160 --> 03:08:12,800
entitlement process and then
change the rules also, um, you

3685
03:08:12,800 --> 03:08:16,400
know, there's other businesses
that also, um, could impact

3686
03:08:16,400 --> 03:08:19,520
our, our different
residential areas.

3687
03:08:19,520 --> 03:08:21,160
So not just data centers.

3688
03:08:21,160 --> 03:08:23,120
And we can change the Udo.

3689
03:08:23,160 --> 03:08:25,520
Obviously, we're going to
do this with this with this

3690
03:08:25,520 --> 03:08:27,320
particular resolution.

3691
03:08:27,320 --> 03:08:29,040
It could have gone to PD with

3692
03:08:29,040 --> 03:08:31,120
those kind of changes
to begin with.

3693
03:08:31,440 --> 03:08:35,120
Um, we could have setback
setbacks, noise mitigation.

3694
03:08:35,560 --> 03:08:37,400
Um, as mentioned also earlier,

3695
03:08:37,400 --> 03:08:39,160
we have that large
water user guide.

3696
03:08:39,160 --> 03:08:44,120
We're going to make it formal
in terms of specifically to the

3697
03:08:44,120 --> 03:08:48,560
closing system, but we don't
currently allow any of the data

3698
03:08:48,600 --> 03:08:50,200
centers to come into the city

3699
03:08:50,200 --> 03:08:52,560
that don't have a
closed loop system.

3700
03:08:53,000 --> 03:08:59,440
Um, investments are not only to
our city, but very significant

3701
03:08:59,440 --> 03:09:02,240
investments to our county
and to our school districts.

3702
03:09:02,240 --> 03:09:06,480
And by the way, those do
actually reduce our tax burden

3703
03:09:06,880 --> 03:09:10,240
and support our city for all
the resources that we provide

3704
03:09:10,280 --> 03:09:14,160
to our to our, um, to our
residents, um, investments

3705
03:09:14,160 --> 03:09:17,880
range from several million
dollars to over $2 billion in

3706
03:09:17,880 --> 03:09:22,640
property taxes, city use taxes,
construction jobs, and other

3707
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:25,120
high paying permanent
jobs and infrastructure.

3708
03:09:25,120 --> 03:09:28,640
And you can ask
pipefitters local to 208.

3709
03:09:29,160 --> 03:09:32,560
Um, they actually wrote an
email to us, a letter that was

3710
03:09:32,560 --> 03:09:37,640
provided that they were against
a moratorium and that they, um,

3711
03:09:37,680 --> 03:09:42,720
actually were, um, touting how
many high paying jobs with the

3712
03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:46,040
skilled labor that this, that
these data centers provide.

3713
03:09:46,360 --> 03:09:49,920
Um, and just as an example,
we already have one built data

3714
03:09:49,960 --> 03:09:53,160
center alone that is
contributing $1.1 million to

3715
03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:54,800
Aurora Public School District.

3716
03:09:54,840 --> 03:09:58,320
Another one is paying $2
million to our public schools.

3717
03:09:58,360 --> 03:10:01,480
Others are in the planning
stages and are projected to add

3718
03:10:01,480 --> 03:10:03,760
at least $86 million.

3719
03:10:03,960 --> 03:10:05,440
That's just to our city.

3720
03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:09,600
So this helps create a
stable, long term tax base.

3721
03:10:09,600 --> 03:10:13,320
And reliance on retail sales,
as we know, is unpredictable as

3722
03:10:13,320 --> 03:10:15,000
the economy fluctuates.

3723
03:10:15,040 --> 03:10:18,720
So this actually does
help secure our future.

3724
03:10:18,720 --> 03:10:20,920
And we can mitigate all those

3725
03:10:20,920 --> 03:10:23,880
other concerns that
are valid concerns.

3726
03:10:23,920 --> 03:10:26,880
Creating clear standards is
desirable, and I certainly

3727
03:10:26,880 --> 03:10:28,920
support making those changes.

3728
03:10:28,920 --> 03:10:33,440
And so anyway I am in
support of this resolution.

3729
03:10:33,440 --> 03:10:34,160
Thank you.

3730
03:10:37,640 --> 03:10:38,600
Further discussion.

3731
03:10:38,640 --> 03:10:39,280
Mayor.

3732
03:10:39,560 --> 03:10:40,280
Mayor pro tem.

3733
03:10:40,640 --> 03:10:45,040
So the work that's being
directed by this resolution.

3734
03:10:45,320 --> 03:10:48,360
Absent a moratorium,
is already happening.

3735
03:10:48,480 --> 03:10:51,560
It's the work that the city
manager and council member

3736
03:10:51,560 --> 03:10:54,880
Wiles and city staff
have already been doing.

3737
03:10:55,480 --> 03:10:58,320
This moratorium was
presented as and ah.

3738
03:10:58,400 --> 03:10:59,880
This resolution was presented

3739
03:10:59,880 --> 03:11:01,920
as an alternative
to a moratorium.

3740
03:11:02,800 --> 03:11:05,240
We don't actually need to
do this to do the work.

3741
03:11:05,280 --> 03:11:06,800
The work is already happening.

3742
03:11:07,160 --> 03:11:14,680
Um, and so in my view, because
this was proposed at the last

3743
03:11:14,680 --> 03:11:17,520
minute for the purpose
of simply heading off a

3744
03:11:17,520 --> 03:11:19,400
moratorium, there's
no need to support it.

3745
03:11:19,400 --> 03:11:21,560
Staff can just keep doing
the work they've been doing.

3746
03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:25,600
I strongly disagree, I think
that I mean, this brings it

3747
03:11:25,600 --> 03:11:28,240
before city council, this
brings it before the public.

3748
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:31,640
What you're talking about is
individual discussions with

3749
03:11:31,640 --> 03:11:32,520
with staff.

3750
03:11:32,560 --> 03:11:35,490
I mean, I think the public
needs to be involved in this,

3751
03:11:35,490 --> 03:11:39,730
and this is one way the way
this is currently written is

3752
03:11:39,730 --> 03:11:43,930
that it brings it to a public
hearing at the study session,

3753
03:11:44,050 --> 03:11:47,530
where we'll have a presentation
by staff and where we'll be

3754
03:11:47,570 --> 03:11:49,850
able to have a debate about

3755
03:11:49,850 --> 03:11:51,250
what direction
we're going to take.

3756
03:11:51,290 --> 03:11:56,050
I think that I think that the
discussion seems to be that

3757
03:11:56,050 --> 03:11:57,610
that everybody's mind is

3758
03:11:57,610 --> 03:12:00,450
already made up
and that it's done.

3759
03:12:00,490 --> 03:12:01,290
It's not done.

3760
03:12:01,290 --> 03:12:03,250
This is just the
beginning of the process.

3761
03:12:03,250 --> 03:12:05,090
But I think it needs
to be a public process.

3762
03:12:05,090 --> 03:12:06,530
And so this needs to pass.

3763
03:12:06,650 --> 03:12:07,330
Mayor.

3764
03:12:07,690 --> 03:12:08,130
Mayor Pro.

3765
03:12:08,130 --> 03:12:08,410
Tem.

3766
03:12:08,610 --> 03:12:10,930
We've already had
the public comment.

3767
03:12:10,930 --> 03:12:11,850
And what they said is they

3768
03:12:11,850 --> 03:12:13,610
would like a
moratorium or a ban.

3769
03:12:13,610 --> 03:12:14,930
And that's not what

3770
03:12:14,930 --> 03:12:17,450
Councilmember Wiles
is bringing forward.

3771
03:12:17,730 --> 03:12:22,490
Um, what Councilmember Wiles
is bringing forward is a set of

3772
03:12:22,490 --> 03:12:26,450
thoughtful regulations, which
she's already put months into

3773
03:12:26,490 --> 03:12:30,890
working on, and which if staff
can bring them forward in 30 to

3774
03:12:30,890 --> 03:12:31,570
35 days.

3775
03:12:31,570 --> 03:12:33,610
It's because they
already did the work.

3776
03:12:33,890 --> 03:12:34,810
So I just.

3777
03:12:34,850 --> 03:12:37,970
Yeah, I don't think
that this is necessary.

3778
03:12:38,210 --> 03:12:43,330
It exists for the purpose of
giving people something to say.

3779
03:12:43,330 --> 03:12:43,970
They did.

3780
03:12:43,970 --> 03:12:45,410
That's not a moratorium.

3781
03:12:45,730 --> 03:12:47,170
It's an important deadline.

3782
03:12:47,250 --> 03:12:48,530
Councilmember Hancock,

3783
03:12:49,610 --> 03:12:52,010
uh, motion by Councilmember

3784
03:12:52,010 --> 03:12:53,250
Hancock to call
for the question.

3785
03:12:53,290 --> 03:12:53,610
Mayor.

3786
03:12:53,650 --> 03:12:54,250
Second.

3787
03:12:54,450 --> 03:12:55,970
Second. By Councilmember Lawson.

3788
03:12:56,010 --> 03:12:57,890
Non debatable motion.

3789
03:12:58,370 --> 03:12:59,570
Call for the question.

3790
03:13:00,450 --> 03:13:01,210
Oh, we have to.

3791
03:13:01,250 --> 03:13:02,250
We have to wait to vote.

3792
03:13:02,250 --> 03:13:03,850
We have to vote on
that two thirds.

3793
03:13:03,890 --> 03:13:04,330
Yep.

3794
03:13:05,730 --> 03:13:06,810
Call for the question on the

3795
03:13:06,810 --> 03:13:08,690
motion to call for the question.

3796
03:13:09,370 --> 03:13:10,490
Mayor. Kaufman.

3797
03:13:10,690 --> 03:13:10,930
Mayor.

3798
03:13:15,570 --> 03:13:16,170
Council member.

3799
03:13:16,170 --> 03:13:16,930
Jackson.

3800
03:13:17,890 --> 03:13:18,570
Council member.

3801
03:13:18,570 --> 03:13:20,010
Proudly votes no.

3802
03:13:22,410 --> 03:13:26,210
The motion passes with seven
yes votes for no votes from

3803
03:13:26,450 --> 03:13:30,530
Mayor Pro Tem Coombs, Gardner,
Jackson and Medina to end the

3804
03:13:30,530 --> 03:13:32,770
debate and vote on the motion.

3805
03:13:33,330 --> 03:13:38,250
Okay. Just to be clear for all
council, what you're voting on

3806
03:13:38,250 --> 03:13:39,250
is to changing.

3807
03:13:39,250 --> 03:13:42,010
It's 1186 as in the packet
with two amendments.

3808
03:13:42,010 --> 03:13:45,090
One is striking section two,
and the other one is changing

3809
03:13:45,090 --> 03:13:49,650
the dates from the days from
30 days to 35 days for the city

3810
03:13:49,650 --> 03:13:52,370
manager to be able to
bring ordinances forward.

3811
03:13:53,570 --> 03:13:54,690
Go over the question.

3812
03:14:05,050 --> 03:14:06,370
Councilmember Jackson.

3813
03:14:09,530 --> 03:14:09,770
Votes.

3814
03:14:11,610 --> 03:14:14,970
The motion passes with seven
yes votes, three no votes from

3815
03:14:14,970 --> 03:14:17,210
mayor Pro Tem, Council Member
Jackson and Council Member

3816
03:14:17,210 --> 03:14:20,570
Medina to adopt item
1186, as amended.

3817
03:14:23,530 --> 03:14:25,730
15 A for the clerk.

3818
03:14:25,730 --> 03:14:27,490
Now read the title of 14 a.

3819
03:14:27,570 --> 03:14:32,130
Item 14 a Finalizing of
Ordinance 2020 641 submitting

3820
03:14:32,170 --> 03:14:34,530
to a vote of the registered
electors of the city of Aurora,

3821
03:14:34,530 --> 03:14:37,570
Colorado, at a coordinated
election on November 3rd, 2026.

3822
03:14:37,810 --> 03:14:40,410
A proposed amendment to section
four of article two of the City

3823
03:14:40,410 --> 03:14:43,450
Charter concerning municipal
elections to direct that

3824
03:14:43,490 --> 03:14:45,810
regular municipal election
shall be held in even numbered

3825
03:14:45,810 --> 03:14:48,130
years, and proposed amendments
to section five of article

3826
03:14:48,170 --> 03:14:51,010
three to provide for one time
shortened terms of office to

3827
03:14:51,010 --> 03:14:54,010
facilitate the transition to
regular elections occurring in

3828
03:14:54,010 --> 03:14:55,170
even numbered years.

3829
03:14:55,170 --> 03:14:57,130
And may or we do have
individuals who would like to

3830
03:14:57,130 --> 03:14:58,210
speak on this item.

3831
03:15:00,530 --> 03:15:01,090
From the public.

3832
03:15:01,090 --> 03:15:01,770
First.

3833
03:15:02,970 --> 03:15:03,450
First person.

3834
03:15:03,450 --> 03:15:04,770
Anybody wish to
be heard on this?

3835
03:15:04,810 --> 03:15:05,530
Yes.

3836
03:15:06,570 --> 03:15:07,810
The first person is Antti

3837
03:15:07,850 --> 03:15:09,770
Anderson, followed
by Hashim Coates.

3838
03:15:21,770 --> 03:15:22,970
Rest of the council.

3839
03:15:24,170 --> 03:15:25,210
And I know you like to troll

3840
03:15:25,250 --> 03:15:27,450
people back, so
my name is Antti.

3841
03:15:27,490 --> 03:15:30,170
So just a heads up when
you want to troll me back.

3842
03:15:30,290 --> 03:15:34,810
Um, definitely support passing
this, uh, and sending this to

3843
03:15:34,810 --> 03:15:37,370
the voters, because this is
a prime example of why there

3844
03:15:37,370 --> 03:15:39,530
needs to be more participation
in city government.

3845
03:15:39,530 --> 03:15:42,410
And having even your elections
will make sure that we don't

3846
03:15:42,410 --> 03:15:44,850
have certain members on
the city council anymore.

3847
03:15:44,850 --> 03:15:47,570
And I am so thrilled
about that day.

3848
03:15:47,610 --> 03:15:50,890
Just remember the feeling in
Aurora when we all woke up and

3849
03:15:50,890 --> 03:15:54,050
heard Daniel was sent home.

3850
03:15:54,050 --> 03:15:58,050
Not only was she sent home, she
barely got into third place.

3851
03:15:58,050 --> 03:16:00,690
So so many voters of the
city did not want her.

3852
03:16:00,730 --> 03:16:03,650
That was such a beautiful
day for the city of Aurora.

3853
03:16:03,650 --> 03:16:05,410
Such a beautiful day.

3854
03:16:05,890 --> 03:16:09,370
And if you can only imagine the
party we had when Danielle was

3855
03:16:09,370 --> 03:16:10,530
kicked out of office.

3856
03:16:10,530 --> 03:16:13,850
What type of party do you think
we're going to have when y'all

3857
03:16:15,850 --> 03:16:20,970
Francois Lawson, uh, Curtis
and Stephanie, when y'all when

3858
03:16:21,010 --> 03:16:24,130
y'all are gone, it's going
to be Juneteenth level

3859
03:16:24,130 --> 03:16:27,290
celebrations, like in
the street partying.

3860
03:16:27,450 --> 03:16:30,290
Actually, let me give this
more to a black focus.

3861
03:16:30,330 --> 03:16:32,370
Can't you feel a
brand new day when.

3862
03:16:32,370 --> 03:16:37,370
When the Wicked Witch of the
West was finally melted in the

3863
03:16:37,650 --> 03:16:40,770
in that pot, when Dorothy threw
that water and everybody came

3864
03:16:40,770 --> 03:16:42,690
about, they they costumes.

3865
03:16:42,690 --> 03:16:45,850
And then it was just
a whole brand new day.

3866
03:16:46,250 --> 03:16:47,410
Brand new day.

3867
03:16:47,450 --> 03:16:50,170
That is going to be what it
feels like when there's more

3868
03:16:50,170 --> 03:16:53,490
voter participation, because
then we won't have to have

3869
03:16:53,490 --> 03:16:55,290
these conversations around.

3870
03:16:55,330 --> 03:16:59,130
Oh, I second this, and I want
to call for the question here,

3871
03:16:59,130 --> 03:17:03,010
and I don't want to hear the
debate, and I want to bring a

3872
03:17:03,010 --> 03:17:06,330
competing resolution with my
colleagues, or even if I want

3873
03:17:06,330 --> 03:17:09,010
to vote in the minority, I am
not going to have anybody else

3874
03:17:09,010 --> 03:17:12,010
with me to vote, because I
don't have MAGA Republicans and

3875
03:17:12,010 --> 03:17:13,250
MAGA donors helping me out.

3876
03:17:13,290 --> 03:17:14,930
No, more like it's going to be

3877
03:17:14,930 --> 03:17:18,690
such a brand new
day, I can't wait.

3878
03:17:20,010 --> 03:17:21,490
I can't wait.

3879
03:17:21,570 --> 03:17:24,850
It's going to feel like Obama
getting elected in 2008.

3880
03:17:25,130 --> 03:17:27,930
It's going to feel like when
Joe Biden dropped out of the

3881
03:17:27,930 --> 03:17:31,210
presidential race and they said
Kamala Harris was taken on the

3882
03:17:31,210 --> 03:17:34,490
top of the ticket, it's going
to feel, oh, it's going.

3883
03:17:35,250 --> 03:17:37,210
This is the day that
the Lord has made.

3884
03:17:37,210 --> 03:17:39,930
Let us rejoice in the
end and be glad in it.

3885
03:17:39,930 --> 03:17:42,810
That's the type of energy it's
going to feel like Jesus came

3886
03:17:42,810 --> 03:17:44,690
back again in 2026.

3887
03:17:45,410 --> 03:17:46,810
It's like we're going to all

3888
03:17:46,810 --> 03:17:48,850
watch the stone
roll away together.

3889
03:17:50,130 --> 03:17:54,050
I am so excited for this
resolution, or this ordinance,

3890
03:17:54,050 --> 03:17:56,090
or this vote to the people so

3891
03:17:56,090 --> 03:17:57,890
that they can have
this decision.

3892
03:17:58,010 --> 03:17:59,450
Because when the people

3893
03:17:59,450 --> 03:18:02,170
participate, they don't
elect Republicans.

3894
03:18:03,170 --> 03:18:06,890
When the majority of your
voters participate, you get to

3895
03:18:06,930 --> 03:18:07,810
go home.

3896
03:18:07,850 --> 03:18:10,290
You don't gotta sit here and
listen to me talk to you for

3897
03:18:10,290 --> 03:18:13,250
three minutes on every
single item on your agenda.

3898
03:18:13,290 --> 03:18:14,970
You get to be at home.

3899
03:18:15,090 --> 03:18:16,890
Watch your Tyler
Perry soap operas.

3900
03:18:16,890 --> 03:18:18,730
I don't know, but I can't wait

3901
03:18:18,730 --> 03:18:20,690
for the brand new
day, so vote yes!

3902
03:18:21,610 --> 03:18:24,610
Hashim Coats, followed
by Kristen Mallory.

3903
03:18:25,330 --> 03:18:25,930
Vote yes on.

3904
03:18:25,930 --> 03:18:26,490
What?

3905
03:18:27,970 --> 03:18:29,330
No, it's.

3906
03:18:32,050 --> 03:18:34,450
Not your vote, but
it does require hot.

3907
03:18:34,450 --> 03:18:35,010
Mike's hot.

3908
03:18:35,050 --> 03:18:36,290
My hot mix.

3909
03:18:37,370 --> 03:18:37,770
Oh.

3910
03:18:38,570 --> 03:18:39,330
Did you say.

3911
03:18:39,730 --> 03:18:39,890
Hot?

3912
03:18:40,210 --> 03:18:41,170
Hot mix.

3913
03:18:42,530 --> 03:18:43,330
Oh, listen.

3914
03:18:44,970 --> 03:18:45,490
There's.

3915
03:18:56,170 --> 03:18:58,890
There's a very simple
democratic principle behind

3916
03:18:58,890 --> 03:18:59,850
this conversation.

3917
03:19:00,570 --> 03:19:03,810
More people voting is better
than fewer people voting.

3918
03:19:03,930 --> 03:19:07,930
And on this question, the
research is remarkably clear.

3919
03:19:08,250 --> 03:19:11,970
Peer reviewed studies A study
published in the American

3920
03:19:11,970 --> 03:19:15,290
Political Science Review
found that putting municipal

3921
03:19:15,290 --> 03:19:19,170
elections on the same cycle As
state and federal elections can

3922
03:19:19,170 --> 03:19:23,810
roughly double local voter
participation, it is also found

3923
03:19:23,810 --> 03:19:28,130
that the resulting electorate
becomes more responsive or,

3924
03:19:28,130 --> 03:19:31,810
excuse me, more represented
by race, age, and partnership.

3925
03:19:32,210 --> 03:19:35,410
That matters in Aurora because
research consistently shows

3926
03:19:35,410 --> 03:19:38,890
that low turnout, off
cycle municipal elections

3927
03:19:38,890 --> 03:19:40,610
disproportionately elevate

3928
03:19:40,810 --> 03:19:43,370
older, wealthier,
whiter electorates.

3929
03:19:43,890 --> 03:19:48,250
Younger voters and communities
of color are more likely to

3930
03:19:48,290 --> 03:19:51,210
disappear from the electorate
when local elections are

3931
03:19:51,210 --> 03:19:53,530
isolated from major
election cycles.

3932
03:19:54,210 --> 03:19:57,010
And we've seen the turnout
difference right here in

3933
03:19:57,010 --> 03:20:01,650
Aurora, Arapahoe County, where
our state representatives are

3934
03:20:01,650 --> 03:20:02,770
all Democrat.

3935
03:20:03,930 --> 03:20:05,610
Turns out about 39%

3936
03:20:06,770 --> 03:20:09,170
in the in the 2020.

3937
03:20:09,210 --> 03:20:12,890
Excuse me in 2003, odd year
election in the 2024 general

3938
03:20:12,890 --> 03:20:13,930
election is appropriate.

3939
03:20:13,930 --> 03:20:15,530
Approximately 76%.

3940
03:20:16,290 --> 03:20:20,050
If moving the election allows
10,000 tens of thousands more

3941
03:20:20,050 --> 03:20:23,690
residents to participate in
choosing the people who decide

3942
03:20:23,690 --> 03:20:25,970
policy, housing,
transportation, development and

3943
03:20:25,970 --> 03:20:27,730
water and how their tax dollars

3944
03:20:27,730 --> 03:20:30,370
are spent and deserve
serious consideration.

3945
03:20:30,490 --> 03:20:31,450
So be it.

3946
03:20:31,490 --> 03:20:34,290
And there's something here for
progressives, conservatives,

3947
03:20:34,290 --> 03:20:36,970
Democrats, Republicans
and unaffiliated voters.

3948
03:20:37,370 --> 03:20:41,010
Aurora races would definitely
remain nonpartisan.

3949
03:20:41,490 --> 03:20:45,330
But also what this does is it
allows Republicans to see who

3950
03:20:45,370 --> 03:20:48,370
their true candidates are,
because they would line up with

3951
03:20:48,370 --> 03:20:51,370
the people that are Republican
on the ticket with the

3952
03:20:51,370 --> 03:20:52,690
affiliated races.

3953
03:20:53,570 --> 03:20:56,410
That way, we won't have to
worry about being lied to.

3954
03:20:56,770 --> 03:21:00,970
Who's progressive, who's not
progressive, who's unaffiliated

3955
03:21:01,490 --> 03:21:04,650
when they were a Republican
throughout the Obama years.

3956
03:21:04,930 --> 03:21:08,010
Um, to what they are now.

3957
03:21:09,010 --> 03:21:11,650
Um, so moving to municipal
elections, to achieving your

3958
03:21:11,650 --> 03:21:16,100
election gives voters more
opportunity, and it lets us be

3959
03:21:16,140 --> 03:21:19,900
able to distinguish the MAGA
trash for what it really is,

3960
03:21:19,940 --> 03:21:23,220
for those that will sell out
their own kind for what they

3961
03:21:23,220 --> 03:21:23,900
really are.

3962
03:21:29,140 --> 03:21:34,780
There are political benefits to
this because it will also free

3963
03:21:34,820 --> 03:21:36,580
up some media time.

3964
03:21:36,580 --> 03:21:38,220
We don't have to worry about

3965
03:21:38,220 --> 03:21:40,500
seeing these election
ads every year.

3966
03:21:41,220 --> 03:21:44,420
Um, I cannot get up here and
say that it would drop the

3967
03:21:44,420 --> 03:21:46,020
reduce and spending
and all that.

3968
03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:47,860
That happens because it
would probably be more.

3969
03:21:48,020 --> 03:21:51,500
But if we get the turnout that
is here, it will let them know

3970
03:21:51,500 --> 03:21:53,940
that this market is not
up for sale anymore.

3971
03:21:54,660 --> 03:21:57,620
So I encourage a
yes vote on this.

3972
03:21:59,620 --> 03:22:02,220
Kristen Mallory followed
by Juan Marcano.

3973
03:22:09,300 --> 03:22:10,260
Hello, everyone.

3974
03:22:10,260 --> 03:22:12,180
Kristen Mallory Ward three.

3975
03:22:12,180 --> 03:22:16,220
I also serve on apps and I run
on an off year election cycle.

3976
03:22:16,220 --> 03:22:19,740
So very selfishly, I would like
you guys to move off of our

3977
03:22:19,740 --> 03:22:22,420
election cycle so that all you

3978
03:22:22,420 --> 03:22:25,820
can, all the voters
vote on is apps.

3979
03:22:26,180 --> 03:22:28,060
Uh, on odd years.

3980
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:34,020
Um, I also want to just say
it's even though you hear from

3981
03:22:34,220 --> 03:22:37,580
the same group of us week after
week, I would kill to have this

3982
03:22:37,580 --> 03:22:41,300
type of participation at APS
meetings when we're talking

3983
03:22:41,300 --> 03:22:46,180
about reading and resources for
our kids, because we don't have

3984
03:22:46,180 --> 03:22:49,500
people who show up and talk to
us about the things that we're,

3985
03:22:49,860 --> 03:22:52,180
uh, we're voting on.

3986
03:22:52,180 --> 03:22:54,780
And so I find it kind of
refreshing that you have so

3987
03:22:54,780 --> 03:22:59,020
much, uh, so much
participation in your meetings.

3988
03:22:59,020 --> 03:23:02,500
And, uh, I don't think you
should take that for granted,

3989
03:23:02,500 --> 03:23:07,420
but Hashem already laid out all
the reasons why this makes good

3990
03:23:08,220 --> 03:23:12,100
sense And to increase
the electorate

3991
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:16,660
will probably change
the election results.

3992
03:23:16,660 --> 03:23:20,100
Some of you shouldn't
probably like that very much.

3993
03:23:20,460 --> 03:23:25,740
Um, but those of you who would
benefit from a greater turnout

3994
03:23:25,780 --> 03:23:27,260
should think about that.

3995
03:23:27,300 --> 03:23:31,980
I also want to say
congratulations to Ali, who was

3996
03:23:31,980 --> 03:23:37,140
very thoughtful in how she went
about, uh, changing the term

3997
03:23:37,140 --> 03:23:40,780
limits and changing when you
guys would get elected so that

3998
03:23:40,780 --> 03:23:43,660
it didn't extend but
shortened your terms.

3999
03:23:43,660 --> 03:23:45,380
I thought that was
very thoughtful.

4000
03:23:45,420 --> 03:23:50,100
And again, this is another
situation where what is being

4001
03:23:50,100 --> 03:23:52,260
put in front of you
is good governance.

4002
03:23:53,020 --> 03:23:54,540
I hope that matters.

4003
03:23:54,700 --> 03:23:57,220
After the last couple of things
we've heard, I don't know that

4004
03:23:57,220 --> 03:23:57,740
it does.

4005
03:23:57,740 --> 03:24:01,740
But all that to say, uh, this
is something that we've been

4006
03:24:01,740 --> 03:24:05,060
dreaming of for a long time, it
would be great to see it come

4007
03:24:05,060 --> 03:24:05,860
to fruition.

4008
03:24:05,860 --> 03:24:10,140
So vote your conscience and
hopefully our values align.

4009
03:24:10,180 --> 03:24:11,060
Thank you.

4010
03:24:11,820 --> 03:24:12,980
Juan Marcano.

4011
03:24:24,380 --> 03:24:25,340
Good evening again.

4012
03:24:25,940 --> 03:24:27,140
I'm still Juan Marcano.

4013
03:24:27,180 --> 03:24:28,820
I'm still award for resident.

4014
03:24:29,220 --> 03:24:32,420
I want to once again thank
council member Ali Jackson for

4015
03:24:32,420 --> 03:24:33,940
sponsoring this ordinance.

4016
03:24:34,020 --> 03:24:36,140
In an era where our democracy

4017
03:24:36,700 --> 03:24:38,860
is under attack at
the federal level.

4018
03:24:38,900 --> 03:24:41,980
Strengthening our local
democracy is more important now

4019
03:24:41,980 --> 03:24:42,980
than ever.

4020
03:24:43,220 --> 03:24:45,940
Moving our elections to even
years will greatly bolster

4021
03:24:45,940 --> 03:24:48,020
participation in our
municipal elections.

4022
03:24:48,020 --> 03:24:51,020
It will finally put a spotlight
on what I believe is the most

4023
03:24:51,020 --> 03:24:52,260
important level of government.

4024
03:24:52,260 --> 03:24:53,180
And that's something that all

4025
03:24:53,180 --> 03:24:54,940
of y'all should
want to have happen.

4026
03:24:55,060 --> 03:24:57,740
Every municipality that has
done this across the country

4027
03:24:57,780 --> 03:25:00,660
has seen a dramatic
boost in voter turnout.

4028
03:25:00,700 --> 03:25:03,300
Not only that, the ballot
drop off that I've heard some

4029
03:25:03,300 --> 03:25:05,660
concerns from y'all about,
especially in the past when I

4030
03:25:05,780 --> 03:25:09,220
was on the other side of
that dais does not happen.

4031
03:25:09,580 --> 03:25:12,540
In fact, Parker and Castle
Rock, two of our neighbors to

4032
03:25:12,540 --> 03:25:13,100
the south.

4033
03:25:13,140 --> 03:25:16,220
They've actually had years
where more people voted for

4034
03:25:16,220 --> 03:25:18,500
mayor and city council
than voted for president.

4035
03:25:18,620 --> 03:25:20,980
So they left the top of that
ballot blank, and then they

4036
03:25:21,020 --> 03:25:23,460
went to the next page and
voted for their council.

4037
03:25:23,500 --> 03:25:24,780
I think that's really cool.

4038
03:25:25,140 --> 03:25:27,060
I want the whole ballot
to be filled, to be clear.

4039
03:25:27,060 --> 03:25:30,460
But, you know, still and I want
to give you all a couple of

4040
03:25:30,460 --> 03:25:31,780
other national examples too,

4041
03:25:31,820 --> 03:25:33,660
because this is not
a local phenomenon.

4042
03:25:33,780 --> 03:25:38,620
Baltimore, they went from 13%
turnout in mayor in 2011, which

4043
03:25:38,620 --> 03:25:41,300
is when their elections were
at the top of the ballot.

4044
03:25:41,860 --> 03:25:47,780
They went to 55% in 2016, 2020
and 24 during presidential

4045
03:25:47,780 --> 03:25:50,140
years when they were on
the back of the ballot.

4046
03:25:50,180 --> 03:25:53,740
San Francisco used to do
about 36% turnout for mayor.

4047
03:25:53,900 --> 03:25:59,780
For example, in 2019 they went
to 76% turnout in 2024, despite

4048
03:25:59,780 --> 03:26:02,940
the mayoral race going to
the 10th slot on the ballot.

4049
03:26:02,940 --> 03:26:05,660
And that's below school board
and they're on their ballot.

4050
03:26:05,700 --> 03:26:08,100
Right. And El Paso, Texas.

4051
03:26:08,540 --> 03:26:16,140
They went from 8%, 8% turnout
in 2017 to 55% in 2020.

4052
03:26:16,220 --> 03:26:19,420
And one thing that's really
interesting here, the last race

4053
03:26:19,420 --> 03:26:22,300
on their ballot is actually
municipal judicial seat.

4054
03:26:22,300 --> 03:26:23,380
Those are elected positions.

4055
03:26:23,380 --> 03:26:23,740
They're here.

4056
03:26:23,740 --> 03:26:25,140
I know we all appoint them.

4057
03:26:25,380 --> 03:26:27,260
They received 660%

4058
03:26:28,660 --> 03:26:29,900
more votes.

4059
03:26:29,940 --> 03:26:32,020
By putting that on
the even year ballot.

4060
03:26:32,100 --> 03:26:35,820
So the additional benefit of
this change is that it's also

4061
03:26:35,820 --> 03:26:37,820
going to foster much
better intergovernmental

4062
03:26:37,820 --> 03:26:40,260
collaboration, because we're
going to have municipal,

4063
03:26:40,260 --> 03:26:43,820
county, state and federal
races on the same ballot.

4064
03:26:43,820 --> 03:26:46,540
That means that folks,
candidates who are running for

4065
03:26:46,540 --> 03:26:50,460
office, they're going to begin
to develop relationships sooner

4066
03:26:50,500 --> 03:26:51,660
on the campaign trail.

4067
03:26:51,660 --> 03:26:53,100
They're going to probably
knock doors together.

4068
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:55,180
They're going to hear from
voters, and they're going to be

4069
03:26:55,220 --> 03:26:59,220
able to work together to craft
and prioritize policy in unison

4070
03:26:59,260 --> 03:27:01,380
to address the needs of
their constituencies.

4071
03:27:01,900 --> 03:27:03,500
This should be a
unanimous yes vote, y'all.

4072
03:27:03,540 --> 03:27:07,380
This is a capital G
good governance reform.

4073
03:27:07,380 --> 03:27:09,940
Give us an opportunity to
strengthen their democracy by

4074
03:27:09,940 --> 03:27:11,020
supporting this ordinance.

4075
03:27:11,060 --> 03:27:12,020
Thanks again.

4076
03:27:14,340 --> 03:27:16,740
That was the last
individual motion.

4077
03:27:18,140 --> 03:27:19,260
Motion is in order.

4078
03:27:21,980 --> 03:27:23,220
Mayor. So moved.

4079
03:27:24,900 --> 03:27:25,740
Uh, mayor pro tem.

4080
03:27:26,100 --> 03:27:26,660
I'm sorry.

4081
03:27:27,780 --> 03:27:28,980
Uh, approve.

4082
03:27:29,100 --> 03:27:29,940
Move to approve.

4083
03:27:29,980 --> 03:27:30,340
Thank you.

4084
03:27:30,380 --> 03:27:30,860
14. Aye.

4085
03:27:30,900 --> 03:27:31,500
Right. 14.

4086
03:27:31,540 --> 03:27:31,740
Aye.

4087
03:27:31,780 --> 03:27:32,620
Okay. Okay.

4088
03:27:32,660 --> 03:27:33,700
Moved by Councilmember Horton.

4089
03:27:33,700 --> 03:27:34,580
And seconded by.

4090
03:27:35,780 --> 03:27:36,420
Combs.

4091
03:27:36,460 --> 03:27:37,100
Seconded by.

4092
03:27:38,380 --> 03:27:39,020
Blood. Jackson.

4093
03:27:39,300 --> 03:27:41,340
Yes. Second by
Councilmember Jackson.

4094
03:27:41,500 --> 03:27:42,300
Discussion.

4095
03:27:42,700 --> 03:27:43,340
Mayor.

4096
03:27:43,980 --> 03:27:45,180
Councilmember. Hancock.

4097
03:27:45,220 --> 03:27:46,620
So, um.

4098
03:27:48,780 --> 03:27:52,180
The beauty of off year
elections is that our cities,

4099
03:27:52,180 --> 03:27:55,340
our candidates, and our local
issues receive the attention

4100
03:27:55,340 --> 03:27:56,340
they deserve.

4101
03:27:56,500 --> 03:28:01,100
Local government should not be
buried beneath the noise, money

4102
03:28:01,100 --> 03:28:04,220
and partisan politics of
a presidential election.

4103
03:28:04,220 --> 03:28:07,660
I'm deeply concerned about
moving municipal elections into

4104
03:28:07,660 --> 03:28:09,380
a presidential election year.

4105
03:28:09,500 --> 03:28:11,020
It's like the canary in the

4106
03:28:11,020 --> 03:28:13,260
coal mine for
something much larger.

4107
03:28:13,300 --> 03:28:14,940
The increasing nationalization

4108
03:28:15,140 --> 03:28:17,260
and participation
of local government.

4109
03:28:17,300 --> 03:28:19,940
Some would argue that this
change is about democracy

4110
03:28:19,940 --> 03:28:21,620
because presidential elected

4111
03:28:21,620 --> 03:28:23,780
elections produce
higher voter turnout.

4112
03:28:23,780 --> 03:28:27,620
But democracy is more than
about simply increasing the

4113
03:28:27,620 --> 03:28:29,100
number of ballots cast.

4114
03:28:29,140 --> 03:28:32,380
It's about an informed
populace, competitive

4115
03:28:32,460 --> 03:28:36,340
elections, accountability, and
ensuring that local voices are

4116
03:28:36,380 --> 03:28:37,740
actually heard.

4117
03:28:37,780 --> 03:28:40,780
Higher turnout should not
automatically be treated as

4118
03:28:40,780 --> 03:28:43,700
justification for
restructuring local elections.

4119
03:28:43,820 --> 03:28:46,340
Candidates running for
municipal office have a

4120
03:28:46,340 --> 03:28:50,700
responsibility to engage their
communities like we did in our

4121
03:28:50,700 --> 03:28:51,700
last elections.

4122
03:28:51,740 --> 03:28:56,660
Knock on doors, communicate
ideas, inspire voters, build

4123
03:28:56,660 --> 03:29:00,180
consensus and work hard to
get those voters to the polls.

4124
03:29:00,180 --> 03:29:01,900
That's what electioneering is.

4125
03:29:01,900 --> 03:29:03,940
That's what we do when
we run for office.

4126
03:29:03,940 --> 03:29:05,260
And then the voters get to

4127
03:29:05,260 --> 03:29:07,020
decide whether they
want us or not.

4128
03:29:07,060 --> 03:29:10,220
Either way, it is
part of the process.

4129
03:29:10,420 --> 03:29:13,620
We should be very cautious
about changes that could allow

4130
03:29:13,660 --> 03:29:18,140
national partisan politics
or ideological agendas to

4131
03:29:18,180 --> 03:29:22,420
overwhelm our non-partisan
municipal elections, regardless

4132
03:29:22,420 --> 03:29:25,740
of which party benefits today,
concentrating political power

4133
03:29:25,740 --> 03:29:29,220
and diminishing meaningful
competition is not healthy, and

4134
03:29:29,220 --> 03:29:31,740
it's not really part of
representative government.

4135
03:29:31,780 --> 03:29:35,500
Local elections belong
to local voters.

4136
03:29:35,620 --> 03:29:39,580
Let's keep the focus on our
communities and our issues and

4137
03:29:39,580 --> 03:29:41,820
the people asking
us to serve them.

4138
03:29:43,780 --> 03:29:45,660
Further discussion.

4139
03:29:46,740 --> 03:29:47,460
Mayor.

4140
03:29:47,940 --> 03:29:48,860
Mayor Pro tem.

4141
03:29:50,660 --> 03:29:51,460
Oh, sorry.

4142
03:29:51,500 --> 03:29:53,660
Um, I'll be quick.

4143
03:29:54,020 --> 03:29:57,830
Um. Competitive elections are

4144
03:29:58,110 --> 03:30:01,230
about more people voting, right?

4145
03:30:01,270 --> 03:30:05,110
If you get more votes than
you've been more successful at

4146
03:30:05,110 --> 03:30:07,110
competing in an election.

4147
03:30:07,350 --> 03:30:11,990
If you get the votes of more
people, um, then you've been

4148
03:30:11,990 --> 03:30:12,790
more competitive.

4149
03:30:12,830 --> 03:30:13,750
It's fairly simple.

4150
03:30:13,750 --> 03:30:19,070
And yes, greater participation
is the hallmark of democracy

4151
03:30:19,670 --> 03:30:21,430
and improvements to democracy.

4152
03:30:21,510 --> 03:30:22,350
That's all.

4153
03:30:23,030 --> 03:30:23,510
Very well.

4154
03:30:23,550 --> 03:30:28,350
I don't think it has worked
well for RTD directors being on

4155
03:30:28,350 --> 03:30:31,470
the general election ballot,
and I find it ironic.

4156
03:30:31,670 --> 03:30:34,030
We had a school board member
from Aurora Public Schools come

4157
03:30:34,030 --> 03:30:38,630
up here and testify for the
proposal for moving Aurora City

4158
03:30:38,630 --> 03:30:41,830
Council to the general election
ballot, but not the Aurora

4159
03:30:41,830 --> 03:30:42,550
School Board.

4160
03:30:43,150 --> 03:30:44,590
Um. Further discussion.

4161
03:30:46,350 --> 03:30:47,110
Mayor.

4162
03:30:48,270 --> 03:30:48,710
Uh.

4163
03:30:50,430 --> 03:30:50,950
Council member.

4164
03:30:50,950 --> 03:30:51,310
Bergen.

4165
03:30:51,390 --> 03:30:51,990
Council member.

4166
03:30:51,990 --> 03:30:52,510
Jackson.

4167
03:30:52,510 --> 03:30:53,310
Jackson.

4168
03:30:54,510 --> 03:30:55,270
Yes. Thank you.

4169
03:30:55,270 --> 03:30:58,750
I just wanted to continue to
say, as the sponsor of this,

4170
03:30:58,790 --> 03:31:02,070
um, ballot initiative, that
I just want to see a greater

4171
03:31:02,070 --> 03:31:04,910
democracy being born and
raised in Aurora, Colorado.

4172
03:31:04,950 --> 03:31:09,310
I think that as we bloom
into a beautiful majority,

4173
03:31:09,990 --> 03:31:14,950
metropolitan, um, pushing
400,000 citizens, we really

4174
03:31:14,950 --> 03:31:19,190
should see, you know, greater
turnout in our elections.

4175
03:31:19,190 --> 03:31:23,950
And so it is nonpartisan and it

4176
03:31:23,950 --> 03:31:25,990
will allow for
coalition building.

4177
03:31:25,990 --> 03:31:31,430
It will allow for voters to get
a break from mailers every year

4178
03:31:31,430 --> 03:31:32,870
to every other year.

4179
03:31:32,910 --> 03:31:37,470
It will give people an
opportunity to hyper focus on

4180
03:31:38,150 --> 03:31:41,190
politics every other year
as opposed to one year.

4181
03:31:41,190 --> 03:31:45,510
And so this is really just
an opportunity to make our

4182
03:31:45,510 --> 03:31:49,590
elections more effective, to
run more smoothly and to give

4183
03:31:49,590 --> 03:31:54,590
everybody a break in between
year, odd, odd years and off

4184
03:31:54,630 --> 03:31:56,830
years when it
comes to elections.

4185
03:31:58,670 --> 03:32:01,350
Further discussion
of seeing none.

4186
03:32:02,310 --> 03:32:03,550
Call for the question.

4187
03:32:15,910 --> 03:32:19,510
The motion passes with six yes
votes for no votes from Council

4188
03:32:19,550 --> 03:32:20,990
member Bergen, Gardner, Hancock

4189
03:32:20,990 --> 03:32:23,670
and Lawson to approve item 14 A.

4190
03:32:31,590 --> 03:32:32,390
Let's see.

4191
03:32:36,510 --> 03:32:39,990
Okay. Reports
Councilmember Andrews.

4192
03:32:42,430 --> 03:32:42,870
Yes, mayor.

4193
03:32:42,910 --> 03:32:46,790
I need to we add a
resignation on the CBC.

4194
03:32:47,630 --> 03:32:48,350
Um,

4195
03:32:50,150 --> 03:32:50,990
From Vida Brown.

4196
03:32:50,990 --> 03:32:56,150
I need to appoint Matthias
Amaru to the board.

4197
03:32:59,990 --> 03:33:01,910
And, Katie, I'll give
you information later on.

4198
03:33:01,950 --> 03:33:02,510
Yes.

4199
03:33:03,830 --> 03:33:04,430
Thank you.

4200
03:33:07,350 --> 03:33:09,510
Okay. Um, Mayor Pro Tem Coombs.

4201
03:33:09,830 --> 03:33:10,230
Thank you.

4202
03:33:10,230 --> 03:33:15,990
Mayor. Um, so a few upcoming
items for folks to keep in mind

4203
03:33:16,030 --> 03:33:18,830
is that this Wednesday, there's
the city council chamber

4204
03:33:18,870 --> 03:33:20,390
accessibility meeting.

4205
03:33:20,630 --> 03:33:23,030
Uh, 530 to 7:30 p.m..

4206
03:33:23,030 --> 03:33:27,030
And that is in the Aurora
room here in City Hall.

4207
03:33:27,470 --> 03:33:32,830
Um, this Saturday the 15th, um,
there will be a town hall on

4208
03:33:32,830 --> 03:33:35,670
the renaming of the
Central Library.

4209
03:33:36,310 --> 03:33:38,030
Um, at 10:30 a.m.

4210
03:33:38,030 --> 03:33:39,470
on Saturday.

4211
03:33:39,470 --> 03:33:44,070
And then on next Thursday,
a housing strategy community

4212
03:33:44,110 --> 03:33:46,550
feedback session at 5:30 p.m.

4213
03:33:46,550 --> 03:33:48,470
at the Central Recreation Center

4214
03:33:49,590 --> 03:33:50,590
and the Central Library.

4215
03:33:50,590 --> 03:33:53,390
Renaming on Saturday
is at Central Library.

4216
03:33:53,590 --> 03:33:57,750
Um, and then just in terms of
recent events that I was able

4217
03:33:57,750 --> 03:34:00,750
to attend last Saturday, the
proclaiming Colorado's Black

4218
03:34:00,750 --> 03:34:05,910
History Aurora exhibit opening,
um, which had really wonderful

4219
03:34:06,350 --> 03:34:09,190
participation from many
folks in our community.

4220
03:34:09,590 --> 03:34:14,710
Um, on Friday, I was able to
attend a Purple Heart ceremony,

4221
03:34:15,230 --> 03:34:16,990
um, with the mayor.

4222
03:34:17,070 --> 03:34:20,550
Uh, here outside of City Hall,
raising the purple purple heart

4223
03:34:20,550 --> 03:34:23,630
flag in celebration
of Purple Heart Day.

4224
03:34:23,990 --> 03:34:29,070
Um, also on Friday, the
Arapahoe County or sorry, Adams

4225
03:34:29,070 --> 03:34:32,190
County Health Department had a
community briefing in town Hall

4226
03:34:32,230 --> 03:34:35,950
on the, uh, tuberculosis
response at the Geo.

4227
03:34:35,950 --> 03:34:37,230
Aurora facility.

4228
03:34:37,710 --> 03:34:40,310
Um, and then finally on
Saturday, I was able to spend

4229
03:34:40,310 --> 03:34:43,270
some time with SEIU local
105 and their committee on

4230
03:34:43,270 --> 03:34:47,150
Political Education, uh,
advocating for working people,

4231
03:34:47,150 --> 03:34:49,190
including home care workers.

4232
03:34:49,230 --> 03:34:52,630
Airport workers and janitors
in our community to have living

4233
03:34:52,630 --> 03:34:57,030
wages and be protected
in their workplaces.

4234
03:34:58,430 --> 03:34:59,110
So that's.

4235
03:34:59,110 --> 03:35:00,070
My report.

4236
03:35:00,150 --> 03:35:01,350
Councilmember Gardner.

4237
03:35:02,350 --> 03:35:03,190
No report.

4238
03:35:03,350 --> 03:35:04,670
Councilmember Jackson.

4239
03:35:12,350 --> 03:35:13,550
Councilmember Horton.

4240
03:35:14,030 --> 03:35:14,390
Thank you.

4241
03:35:14,390 --> 03:35:16,750
Mayor. A few things
from Ward one.

4242
03:35:16,790 --> 03:35:19,790
Updates. I've been having
a number of conversations

4243
03:35:19,790 --> 03:35:23,670
regarding Fletcher Plaza
and some proactive response,

4244
03:35:23,670 --> 03:35:26,590
working with multiple
different city agencies

4245
03:35:27,630 --> 03:35:31,150
and with the mayor, who also
attended that meeting last week

4246
03:35:31,590 --> 03:35:35,670
to address how we could best
provide resources and make sure

4247
03:35:35,670 --> 03:35:37,630
that all can
utilize the library.

4248
03:35:37,710 --> 03:35:40,510
The second piece is with the

4249
03:35:40,910 --> 03:35:42,550
Community Development
Corporation.

4250
03:35:42,710 --> 03:35:45,830
The the official steering
committee was launched.

4251
03:35:46,070 --> 03:35:50,590
So if folks would like to join
that effort and want to see

4252
03:35:50,630 --> 03:35:54,870
revitalization in northwest
Aurora and the prioritization

4253
03:35:54,870 --> 03:35:57,550
of community voices, small
business owners and all and

4254
03:35:57,550 --> 03:35:59,910
non-profits, all that
make up the area.

4255
03:35:59,950 --> 03:36:01,110
Please let me know.

4256
03:36:01,550 --> 03:36:07,910
Um, the also council, uh, Mayor
Pro Tem Coombs, um, and I are,

4257
03:36:08,470 --> 03:36:12,590
uh, on the resolution to rename
our central library, uh, or to

4258
03:36:12,630 --> 03:36:17,830
Atticus, uh, to honor Edna
Wilson Mosley, who was the

4259
03:36:17,830 --> 03:36:20,030
first African American
city council member.

4260
03:36:20,670 --> 03:36:22,430
Make sure it's on the screen.

4261
03:36:22,550 --> 03:36:25,390
Um, and there are public
comment sessions that's

4262
03:36:25,390 --> 03:36:28,230
happening this Saturday,
August 15th in person.

4263
03:36:28,230 --> 03:36:32,030
And then again, a virtual
option on August 25th.

4264
03:36:32,390 --> 03:36:36,670
Uh, I do want to note, because
it just does not sit well in my

4265
03:36:36,670 --> 03:36:41,070
soul, that last conversation,
um, around data centers.

4266
03:36:41,070 --> 03:36:43,710
And this is something that
I will hold myself to.

4267
03:36:43,710 --> 03:36:47,550
And what I ask my peers on
this dais, that if you are

4268
03:36:48,630 --> 03:36:54,470
going to present an accusation
that that person is allowed to

4269
03:36:54,510 --> 03:36:58,430
defend themselves, and
particularly if it is male

4270
03:36:58,430 --> 03:37:02,630
leadership who is not
presenting any facts, that that

4271
03:37:02,630 --> 03:37:06,790
is that is such an that was
just unjust and rubs me the

4272
03:37:06,790 --> 03:37:10,950
wrong way as a as a woman, as
a woman of color on this dais.

4273
03:37:11,190 --> 03:37:14,950
Um, that that there was not an
opportunity for Council member

4274
03:37:14,990 --> 03:37:17,190
wiles, and I have no idea what
she believes in this, but it

4275
03:37:17,190 --> 03:37:18,350
was just my feelings.

4276
03:37:18,510 --> 03:37:22,470
Um, and really, what we should
hold ourselves to is do better.

4277
03:37:25,230 --> 03:37:26,590
Uh, Councilmember Wiles.

4278
03:37:27,270 --> 03:37:27,750
Um, so.

4279
03:37:27,790 --> 03:37:30,030
First of all, I wanted
to honor the life.

4280
03:37:30,030 --> 03:37:31,230
Of Arthur Williams.

4281
03:37:31,230 --> 03:37:32,670
Who was hit and killed by.

4282
03:37:32,670 --> 03:37:33,110
A.

4283
03:37:34,150 --> 03:37:34,830
Hit and run.

4284
03:37:34,830 --> 03:37:35,510
Driver.

4285
03:37:35,550 --> 03:37:37,030
Earlier this month.

4286
03:37:37,350 --> 03:37:38,910
Um, police are still looking

4287
03:37:38,910 --> 03:37:41,910
for, Uh, the person who hit him.

4288
03:37:41,910 --> 03:37:45,590
And so all of the information
is on the APD website and on

4289
03:37:45,590 --> 03:37:47,470
their their social media page.

4290
03:37:47,510 --> 03:37:49,630
Please, let's keep an
eye out for this car.

4291
03:37:49,990 --> 03:37:51,550
This family deserves justice.

4292
03:37:51,590 --> 03:37:54,630
And they also deserve a sense
of closure, knowing that the

4293
03:37:54,630 --> 03:37:57,550
person who left their family
member on the side of the road

4294
03:37:57,550 --> 03:37:58,990
will be held accountable.

4295
03:37:59,390 --> 03:38:01,950
So if you saw anything,
please say something.

4296
03:38:01,950 --> 03:38:04,670
There, I believe is
an award a reward?

4297
03:38:04,710 --> 03:38:07,190
I don't think there should need
to be a reward to do the right

4298
03:38:07,190 --> 03:38:10,270
thing, but hey, if it gets you
to turn in the information you

4299
03:38:10,270 --> 03:38:11,750
need, please do so.

4300
03:38:12,190 --> 03:38:15,390
I also want to thank the
reserve community who hosted me

4301
03:38:15,390 --> 03:38:16,670
for their town hall.

4302
03:38:17,110 --> 03:38:20,190
Ironically, they're right next
to the data center that will be

4303
03:38:20,190 --> 03:38:21,390
built in their neighborhood.

4304
03:38:21,390 --> 03:38:22,870
So I.

4305
03:38:23,510 --> 03:38:27,750
I hear their concerns, and I
hope they know that I intend to

4306
03:38:27,790 --> 03:38:31,630
honor my campaign promises to
continue to advocate for them.

4307
03:38:31,990 --> 03:38:35,830
Um, also August 22nd, Nelson
Holland is doing a Highland

4308
03:38:35,870 --> 03:38:37,710
Highline Canal cleanup.

4309
03:38:38,110 --> 03:38:39,990
I hope to see
everybody out there.

4310
03:38:39,990 --> 03:38:45,070
It's a great time cleaning up
our parks and our canal trails.

4311
03:38:45,070 --> 03:38:47,950
And then obviously I would be

4312
03:38:47,990 --> 03:38:50,190
me if I didn't mention
Special Olympics.

4313
03:38:50,190 --> 03:38:51,350
They need volunteers.

4314
03:38:51,870 --> 03:38:53,230
The State Classic is also

4315
03:38:53,270 --> 03:38:56,470
August 22nd, softball
is August 23rd.

4316
03:38:56,470 --> 03:38:59,470
And then there's the
Plain pool on August 29th.

4317
03:38:59,470 --> 03:39:03,790
So please sign up to volunteer
and help them out, especially

4318
03:39:03,790 --> 03:39:07,670
since now they are officially
Aurora community members.

4319
03:39:07,670 --> 03:39:10,150
Thank you, Councilmember Medina.

4320
03:39:11,030 --> 03:39:11,830
Thank you sir.

4321
03:39:13,030 --> 03:39:16,070
I was at the Colorado Black
History Exhibit traveling

4322
03:39:16,070 --> 03:39:21,790
exhibit over at the War History
Museum, where I was able to get

4323
03:39:21,790 --> 03:39:24,630
a proclamation for Ruben Sims
Junior, the first African

4324
03:39:24,630 --> 03:39:27,910
American firefighter
for the city of Aurora.

4325
03:39:29,150 --> 03:39:30,790
I had my town hall as well.

4326
03:39:30,830 --> 03:39:34,990
We talked more about the Ada
compliances around the city,

4327
03:39:34,990 --> 03:39:37,640
what they're trying to do to
start to comply with that, and

4328
03:39:37,640 --> 03:39:40,480
also talked about what's
happening here at council

4329
03:39:40,480 --> 03:39:44,920
chambers, also went to the
Delmar Park Community picnic,

4330
03:39:45,040 --> 03:39:47,080
was able to talk to
constituents about issues and

4331
03:39:47,080 --> 03:39:51,200
concerns and have a little
reprieve from the heat.

4332
03:39:51,480 --> 03:39:52,240
Thank you.

4333
03:39:53,760 --> 03:39:55,080
Councilmember Hancock.

4334
03:39:56,960 --> 03:39:57,880
Thank you mayor.

4335
03:39:57,920 --> 03:39:59,880
It's been a busy two weeks.

4336
03:40:00,200 --> 03:40:02,360
Last week we
attended the corium.

4337
03:40:02,440 --> 03:40:06,040
On the 27th, we attended
the Korean War Memorial as

4338
03:40:06,040 --> 03:40:09,040
beautiful ceremony
out at Generals Park.

4339
03:40:09,600 --> 03:40:11,960
And it was just great.

4340
03:40:12,000 --> 03:40:13,440
It was a beautiful ceremony.

4341
03:40:13,680 --> 03:40:18,720
You and I, mayor, were at the
Aurora Fire and Rescue training

4342
03:40:18,720 --> 03:40:22,760
facility, and I got to tell
you, your boss, mayor, you ran

4343
03:40:22,760 --> 03:40:25,400
up those four flights
with that £40 hose.

4344
03:40:25,400 --> 03:40:28,760
I watched and took pictures,
but I did other things with

4345
03:40:28,760 --> 03:40:29,760
with the firefighters.

4346
03:40:29,760 --> 03:40:33,320
And I think it's they have some
of the toughest training that

4347
03:40:33,320 --> 03:40:34,600
I've ever seen.

4348
03:40:34,640 --> 03:40:36,960
And there was one lone gal that

4349
03:40:36,960 --> 03:40:38,960
was there hanging
with those fellows.

4350
03:40:38,960 --> 03:40:41,920
It was really great to see
these young people go through

4351
03:40:41,920 --> 03:40:43,400
their training to become

4352
03:40:43,440 --> 03:40:45,680
firefighters, to
protect our city.

4353
03:40:46,200 --> 03:40:50,560
Also, I also attended the
opening reception at the Aurora

4354
03:40:50,600 --> 03:40:51,680
History Museum.

4355
03:40:51,680 --> 03:40:55,720
And one thing to note, I did
personally know Reuben Sims

4356
03:40:55,840 --> 03:40:59,560
back when, in our military
days, my husband and myself, we

4357
03:40:59,560 --> 03:41:02,280
all were together
back in the day and I.

4358
03:41:02,400 --> 03:41:06,040
It was great to see his son
Jamie and his family attend

4359
03:41:06,040 --> 03:41:10,520
that and hear the proclamation
by um Councilmember Medina.

4360
03:41:10,720 --> 03:41:12,240
Um, this Monday.

4361
03:41:12,240 --> 03:41:15,440
This past Monday, I attend the
Armed Forces Treatment Court

4362
03:41:15,440 --> 03:41:19,240
and it was great to see Judge
Day preside over this young man

4363
03:41:19,280 --> 03:41:22,600
who did the hard work that
it was necessary in the Armed

4364
03:41:22,600 --> 03:41:26,400
Forces Treatment Court to, you
know, you fall down sometimes,

4365
03:41:26,400 --> 03:41:29,160
but this gives you an
opportunity to get back up.

4366
03:41:29,160 --> 03:41:32,560
And he was supported and helped
and encouraged and he went

4367
03:41:32,560 --> 03:41:35,400
through the program, 18 month
program, and he's well on his

4368
03:41:35,440 --> 03:41:38,320
way in recovery and success.

4369
03:41:38,720 --> 03:41:41,480
Um, that was a really
great program as well.

4370
03:41:41,840 --> 03:41:45,640
Um, I also attended, along with
Council member Andrews, the

4371
03:41:45,640 --> 03:41:51,240
interfaith gala, uh, at the in
Centennial, where they raised

4372
03:41:51,680 --> 03:41:53,880
funds to provide meals for

4373
03:41:53,880 --> 03:41:56,680
homeless individuals
across the city.

4374
03:41:56,720 --> 03:41:59,600
You can come in and they take
really good care of you there.

4375
03:41:59,600 --> 03:42:02,680
And it was great seeing the
commissioners there as well as

4376
03:42:02,680 --> 03:42:04,640
Council Member Andrews.

4377
03:42:05,360 --> 03:42:09,200
I had a meeting today with
Tamiya and I hope I didn't

4378
03:42:09,200 --> 03:42:13,000
mispronounce your name, miss
Tamiya Jackson of Aurora save.

4379
03:42:13,000 --> 03:42:16,080
And we had a really great
discussion about what the

4380
03:42:16,080 --> 03:42:18,760
Aurora save does and
what it doesn't do.

4381
03:42:18,760 --> 03:42:23,920
And as the director of this
program, she is instrumental in

4382
03:42:23,920 --> 03:42:28,840
helping young people
circumnavigate the stresses of

4383
03:42:29,240 --> 03:42:32,240
making choices that sometimes
are not in their best interest,

4384
03:42:32,240 --> 03:42:34,280
but to help them
make better choices.

4385
03:42:34,680 --> 03:42:40,560
It serves young people from the
ages of 14 to 24, and to help

4386
03:42:40,560 --> 03:42:42,880
these young people to
choose nonviolence.

4387
03:42:43,840 --> 03:42:45,720
Um, you know, activities.

4388
03:42:45,720 --> 03:42:50,080
And we talked a lot about
resources as I went on a ride

4389
03:42:50,080 --> 03:42:51,120
along a couple of weeks ago.

4390
03:42:51,160 --> 03:42:55,920
You and I mayor, and talked to
a young man, I think, uh, rode

4391
03:42:55,920 --> 03:42:57,360
called straight and the save

4392
03:42:57,400 --> 03:43:00,280
officers and the
save coordinator.

4393
03:43:00,520 --> 03:43:03,040
Really? I think they kind
of got through to this kid.

4394
03:43:03,040 --> 03:43:05,480
I could I could see
his countenance change.

4395
03:43:05,480 --> 03:43:09,440
And he seemed willing to really
engage in his own future,

4396
03:43:09,440 --> 03:43:12,120
because that's what these young
people need to be able to be

4397
03:43:12,120 --> 03:43:13,280
trained to do.

4398
03:43:13,440 --> 03:43:15,000
Um, for the young woman who

4399
03:43:15,040 --> 03:43:18,040
talked about, did we
go to the reservoir?

4400
03:43:18,040 --> 03:43:21,040
I don't know if she's still
here, but we're actually going

4401
03:43:21,040 --> 03:43:23,880
on the water tour tomorrow, so
we're going to go and look at

4402
03:43:23,880 --> 03:43:28,000
these reservoirs and see
firsthand how water, um, water

4403
03:43:28,040 --> 03:43:32,320
deprivation, how the drought,
how our one day of winter has

4404
03:43:32,320 --> 03:43:35,440
impacted our water resources
here in this state.

4405
03:43:35,480 --> 03:43:38,560
There's a lot more going on
with water than meets the eye.

4406
03:43:38,600 --> 03:43:42,280
The Colorado water compact and
all of that that's going on.

4407
03:43:42,280 --> 03:43:47,720
We supply water to us Nebraska,
New Mexico, California, Nevada.

4408
03:43:47,760 --> 03:43:48,480
Oh my goodness.

4409
03:43:48,520 --> 03:43:49,840
It's a huge deal.

4410
03:43:49,840 --> 03:43:53,160
But we want to be very good
stewards of our resources as

4411
03:43:53,160 --> 03:43:55,520
representatives on this council.

4412
03:43:55,520 --> 03:43:58,160
And so the water tour, I
expect, will be a great

4413
03:43:58,200 --> 03:44:01,040
opportunity for us to
learn more about that.

4414
03:44:01,080 --> 03:44:02,560
Also this week we will be

4415
03:44:02,560 --> 03:44:06,240
having the public
safety meeting.

4416
03:44:06,280 --> 03:44:09,160
And at what time is it 11 a.m.

4417
03:44:09,600 --> 03:44:10,920
here in the Aurora room.

4418
03:44:10,920 --> 03:44:12,880
So please tune in to that.

4419
03:44:12,880 --> 03:44:14,840
And that's my report, mayor.

4420
03:44:14,880 --> 03:44:16,080
Thank you, Council member.

4421
03:44:16,080 --> 03:44:16,720
Lawson. Thank you.

4422
03:44:16,720 --> 03:44:17,200
Mayor.

4423
03:44:17,400 --> 03:44:22,160
I'm going to be having my Ward
five town hall on August 18th

4424
03:44:22,160 --> 03:44:24,000
at 630 at Mission Viejo.

4425
03:44:24,040 --> 03:44:27,120
We're going to have planning
and development, And also I'm

4426
03:44:27,120 --> 03:44:28,760
going to have the one
at Heather gardens.

4427
03:44:28,760 --> 03:44:30,320
That one will be
at Mission Viejo.

4428
03:44:30,360 --> 03:44:32,640
The one on the 29th will
be at Heather gardens.

4429
03:44:32,640 --> 03:44:36,040
And we will also be talking
about planning and development

4430
03:44:36,040 --> 03:44:38,520
and retail, what's
going on in Ward five.

4431
03:44:38,520 --> 03:44:40,080
And that's my report, mayor.

4432
03:44:40,560 --> 03:44:41,360
Thank you.

4433
03:44:41,840 --> 03:44:43,480
Um. Councilmember burger.

4434
03:44:44,800 --> 03:44:45,600
Mayor. No report.

4435
03:44:45,640 --> 03:44:46,400
Thank you.

4436
03:44:47,840 --> 03:44:48,280
Um,

4437
03:44:49,360 --> 03:44:52,280
I want to encourage people to
go to my Facebook page that's

4438
03:44:52,320 --> 03:44:54,960
at, uh, Mike Kaufman Facebook.

4439
03:44:54,960 --> 03:44:57,640
And I'm hoping, um.

4440
03:44:57,800 --> 03:44:58,440
Um,

4441
03:44:59,800 --> 03:45:04,240
Mr. McConnell has signed
up our, um, district three

4442
03:45:04,640 --> 03:45:07,880
transportation commissioner,
I'd like an update on what

4443
03:45:07,880 --> 03:45:10,880
you're doing to help
us on State Highway 30.

4444
03:45:11,200 --> 03:45:16,000
Uh, you're on that task force
with, uh, uh, co-chaired by

4445
03:45:16,040 --> 03:45:18,160
Councilmember Wallace
and Councilmember Bergen.

4446
03:45:18,200 --> 03:45:21,760
And so a great opportunity
for you to update us.

4447
03:45:22,040 --> 03:45:24,120
Uh, with that public
invited to be heard.

4448
03:45:25,640 --> 03:45:28,240
Auntie Anderson, followed
by Hashim Coates.

4449
03:46:01,040 --> 03:46:01,920
Excuse me.

4450
03:46:02,440 --> 03:46:03,120
Um.

4451
03:46:05,040 --> 03:46:06,120
Mayor Kaufman.

4452
03:46:06,680 --> 03:46:07,560
You you threatened.

4453
03:46:07,560 --> 03:46:08,840
To have me removed.

4454
03:46:09,680 --> 03:46:11,400
You know, I don't
like a challenge.

4455
03:46:12,240 --> 03:46:14,920
So now I double dog
dare you to do it.

4456
03:46:14,920 --> 03:46:18,520
Because now, for the next three
minutes, we're going to hear

4457
03:46:18,520 --> 03:46:21,720
what it sounds like
to be Mike Kaufman.

4458
03:46:26,680 --> 03:46:28,000
This could have been avoided.

4459
03:46:28,080 --> 03:46:29,960
But you threatened me.

4460
03:46:30,200 --> 03:46:31,880
So now I have to
double dog here.

4461
03:46:31,880 --> 03:46:32,720
You might.

4462
03:46:46,120 --> 03:46:49,400
Now is the Aurora
City Council drumline.

4463
03:47:04,320 --> 03:47:05,160
Okay. Okay.

4464
03:47:05,200 --> 03:47:06,040
I'll see you at noon.

4465
03:47:06,040 --> 03:47:07,880
Stephanie. This the one time.

4466
03:47:07,880 --> 03:47:09,040
Stephanie I agree.

4467
03:47:18,120 --> 03:47:19,000
That's her solo.

4468
03:47:19,040 --> 03:47:19,640
Take it away.

4469
03:47:19,680 --> 03:47:20,240
Here we go.

4470
03:47:35,640 --> 03:47:37,880
We still got a minute and 30s.

4471
03:47:38,120 --> 03:47:38,640
Oh, no.

4472
03:47:39,320 --> 03:47:39,840
Y'all. Yep.

4473
03:47:39,840 --> 03:47:41,280
No, we still got time.

4474
03:47:41,640 --> 03:47:43,200
We set up a meeting this fall.

4475
03:47:43,240 --> 03:47:44,640
All you have to do
is leave me alone.

4476
03:47:44,640 --> 03:47:46,800
But this is a consequence
of the action.

4477
03:47:47,360 --> 03:47:49,160
This is called the
First Amendment.

4478
03:48:13,680 --> 03:48:14,800
There's still 50s.

4479
03:48:14,800 --> 03:48:15,400
Left.

4480
03:48:28,280 --> 03:48:29,360
This could have been avoided if

4481
03:48:29,360 --> 03:48:30,920
he would have just
left me alone.

4482
03:48:34,320 --> 03:48:35,200
No I wouldn't.

4483
03:48:39,600 --> 03:48:40,760
20s left still.

4484
03:48:40,760 --> 03:48:41,360
Mike.

4485
03:48:42,920 --> 03:48:44,600
You just have some
fun with it now.

4486
03:48:50,400 --> 03:48:50,720
You should.

4487
03:48:50,720 --> 03:48:51,400
Be eating.

4488
03:48:51,920 --> 03:48:53,320
Mike. We're coming
up on your solo.

4489
03:48:53,400 --> 03:48:54,040
Be ready.

4490
03:48:59,120 --> 03:48:59,920
It's almost there.

4491
03:48:59,920 --> 03:49:00,280
Mike.

4492
03:49:04,760 --> 03:49:07,600
Hashim Coates, followed
by Mahdi and Schaffner.

4493
03:49:16,490 --> 03:49:16,770
Well.

4494
03:49:17,130 --> 03:49:17,770
I can't.

4495
03:49:17,810 --> 03:49:18,970
I just can't.

4496
03:49:29,090 --> 03:49:29,490
Do that.

4497
03:49:34,610 --> 03:49:36,210
That is interesting to follow.

4498
03:49:36,210 --> 03:49:38,090
In all my years I
have not followed.

4499
03:49:38,090 --> 03:49:39,330
Anything like that.

4500
03:49:40,170 --> 03:49:43,170
Um, but I guess in the true
spirit of everything, I do want

4501
03:49:43,170 --> 03:49:45,530
to say that Councilwoman
Hancock, you did violate the

4502
03:49:45,530 --> 03:49:48,210
quorum when you
participated with him.

4503
03:49:49,370 --> 03:49:51,730
So I'm just saying, um,

4504
03:49:53,050 --> 03:49:54,250
I understand I'm
not a white man.

4505
03:49:54,250 --> 03:49:55,570
You're not going to respect me.

4506
03:49:55,850 --> 03:49:59,050
So I want to say that
leadership is hard.

4507
03:49:59,450 --> 03:50:00,490
It is.

4508
03:50:01,250 --> 03:50:05,130
Um, when you make that decision
to get up and run, you're there

4509
03:50:05,130 --> 03:50:06,010
for it all.

4510
03:50:06,330 --> 03:50:07,610
Whether either votes or

4511
03:50:07,610 --> 03:50:10,090
critiques or
whatever it happens.

4512
03:50:10,610 --> 03:50:15,210
Um, there have been some that I
have been friendships over and

4513
03:50:15,210 --> 03:50:17,610
depending on how
they were attacked.

4514
03:50:17,650 --> 03:50:21,370
Then I have come back in to
be hot as hell on their asses.

4515
03:50:21,890 --> 03:50:25,570
That's just what the job is
of leadership, and I encourage

4516
03:50:25,570 --> 03:50:28,650
people to lean into it
and deal with the growth.

4517
03:50:28,690 --> 03:50:32,330
But I do find it to be
disrespectful and condescending

4518
03:50:32,410 --> 03:50:36,930
to be like, hey, me,
I appreciate blah.

4519
03:50:36,930 --> 03:50:38,570
Blah blah blah, but.

4520
03:50:38,610 --> 03:50:39,170
You.

4521
03:50:40,450 --> 03:50:42,490
And that's exactly
what happened.

4522
03:50:43,050 --> 03:50:48,570
So also, if we could just get
back to the days of when Mayor

4523
03:50:48,610 --> 03:50:52,930
Hogan was here and how the
building and things operated

4524
03:50:52,930 --> 03:50:55,890
back then, those
were the glory years.

4525
03:50:55,890 --> 03:51:01,210
I am doing a part, a bipartisan
type of acknowledgement on how

4526
03:51:01,210 --> 03:51:02,370
things are run.

4527
03:51:02,490 --> 03:51:06,570
There was more civility that
was here, and the fact that he

4528
03:51:06,570 --> 03:51:09,370
did not treat the people's
building like a prison.

4529
03:51:09,890 --> 03:51:14,410
I respect that the fact that
when I come and other people

4530
03:51:14,410 --> 03:51:18,130
come to speak at a city council
meeting, we have to wait at the

4531
03:51:18,130 --> 03:51:19,450
door to be let in.

4532
03:51:19,450 --> 03:51:21,370
Blows my mind.

4533
03:51:21,530 --> 03:51:25,090
The fact that the door can't
be open for council hours and

4534
03:51:25,090 --> 03:51:26,290
council business.

4535
03:51:26,330 --> 03:51:27,890
I don't understand that.

4536
03:51:27,930 --> 03:51:29,370
Also, I want to call the.

4537
03:51:29,370 --> 03:51:30,210
There is a.

4538
03:51:30,730 --> 03:51:32,130
The security is a joke.

4539
03:51:32,530 --> 03:51:36,770
Honestly, if there was sincere
intention about harm being

4540
03:51:36,770 --> 03:51:38,850
done, it would happen.

4541
03:51:39,330 --> 03:51:40,370
There are holes.

4542
03:51:40,410 --> 03:51:42,290
APD can even attest to this.

4543
03:51:42,290 --> 03:51:42,850
There are.

4544
03:51:42,850 --> 03:51:43,490
Holes.

4545
03:51:43,490 --> 03:51:48,170
In the security process that
your safety, the stanchions,

4546
03:51:48,170 --> 03:51:49,210
all of that stuff.

4547
03:51:49,330 --> 03:51:50,530
It's a fraud.

4548
03:51:50,530 --> 03:51:54,290
But what it does speak to is
that people do not come here

4549
03:51:54,290 --> 03:51:57,810
with the ill intent that is
laid upon them to to create you

4550
03:51:57,810 --> 03:51:58,490
all harm.

4551
03:51:58,530 --> 03:52:01,650
Yes, your nerves and your
feelings are in jeopardy, but

4552
03:52:01,650 --> 03:52:04,530
that is because the people want
to have their voices heard.

4553
03:52:04,570 --> 03:52:09,450
If security was real, the
screeners would not be down.

4554
03:52:09,450 --> 03:52:11,610
As I went out to the
restroom and came back in.

4555
03:52:11,650 --> 03:52:14,370
They still would be up because
you all are still here.

4556
03:52:14,570 --> 03:52:18,010
Unless you all
were afraid of the

4557
03:52:19,610 --> 03:52:23,210
big oil people, the big money
people, the the big center

4558
03:52:23,210 --> 03:52:26,770
people that left after the
votes that happened on that.

4559
03:52:26,890 --> 03:52:30,450
So also I encourage people
like get out and vote.

4560
03:52:31,250 --> 03:52:35,490
Stephanie's ChatGPT
rant did everything.

4561
03:52:35,850 --> 03:52:38,130
Like supporting what.

4562
03:52:38,610 --> 03:52:39,410
Councilwoman.

4563
03:52:39,530 --> 03:52:40,330
Jackson.

4564
03:52:41,610 --> 03:52:43,010
Measure wanted.

4565
03:52:43,330 --> 03:52:44,250
More voter.

4566
03:52:44,250 --> 03:52:45,010
Participation.

4567
03:52:45,010 --> 03:52:45,730
Is the answer.

4568
03:52:48,170 --> 03:52:49,450
Madison Schaffner.

4569
03:52:51,970 --> 03:52:53,410
That was the last individual.

4570
03:52:56,330 --> 03:52:56,770
Um,

4571
03:52:57,890 --> 03:52:58,930
Council member McConnell.

4572
03:52:58,970 --> 03:52:59,890
Our former.

4573
03:52:59,930 --> 03:53:02,250
I would like that
report next time.

4574
03:53:02,250 --> 03:53:03,010
Thank you.

4575
03:53:03,170 --> 03:53:05,370
Uh, seeing no further business
before the Aurora City Council

4576
03:53:05,370 --> 03:53:06,050
meeting is adjourned.