1 00:00:02,959 --> 00:00:08,010 good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Aurora City Council's 2 00:00:06,750 --> 00:00:12,690 Committee of the Whole meeting it is Monday March twenty 8 2016 miss Martin 3 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:18,630 please call the roll miss partner present miss Fran pillow here mr. Harris 4 00:00:15,570 --> 00:00:26,039 yeah mr. Horvath yeah mr. Kovac present mr. friendly here miss McDougal cousin 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:29,580 mr. Baca mr. wolf here alright thank you the for first their order of business is 6 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:35,670 the approval of the minutes from March 14 2016 shall entertain a motion some 7 00:00:33,140 --> 00:00:42,300 been moved and seconded any additions planets Corrections all in favor of 8 00:00:38,969 --> 00:00:47,460 those minute say aye opposed hearing none those minutes are adopted finance 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,230 directors report mr. Clymer Thank You chairman couple good evening Council 10 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:55,469 just a few quick items this evening through the month of februari our 11 00:00:53,160 --> 00:01:00,960 general fund the revenue collections are at seventeen percent of budgeted revenue 12 00:00:57,780 --> 00:01:07,320 with 16.7 percent of their completed and our expenses are at 17.1 percent which 13 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:10,710 is a hair above pace but due to the timing of some payroll issues and 14 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,070 transfers I'd expect that to smooth out over the course of the year and over 15 00:01:12,689 --> 00:01:19,409 probably about the summer time you'll start to see the the actual number fall 16 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:23,369 below budget secondly it's an item that I requested to be on the new business 17 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:27,270 portion of tonight's agenda our tax incentive review committee met last week 18 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:33,500 to review our community reinvestment area abatement agreements and i would 19 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:39,780 like to present the committee's findings to your committee later this evening and 20 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:44,460 finally i would like to convene our treasury investment board at some point 21 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:48,560 over the next month or two just to update our investment policy what we 22 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:52,110 have in place right now is a bit dated reason it's important to you is because 23 00:01:50,430 --> 00:01:57,030 one of the members on that committee will be a member of council in addition 24 00:01:54,509 --> 00:02:00,390 to the president of council so at some point we'll need to know which member of 25 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,619 council is interested in serving on that board and that concludes what I have for 26 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:10,530 you right now okay thank you very much any comments or questions mr. Hetrick 27 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:14,420 Thank You mr. Cody I mr. Clymer and then your second paragraph of your report 28 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:19,280 coming months if I NASCAR Treasuries Investment Board too vain to evaluate 29 00:02:16,730 --> 00:02:22,819 our current investment policy our current investment policy which governs 30 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:32,989 the matter which the city funds may be invested was last revised 1997 has need 31 00:02:27,770 --> 00:02:40,819 of updating I just just cleared out at me right away we've been doing something 32 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:45,310 put 20 years this is not we have not changed our investment policy since 1997 33 00:02:45,550 --> 00:02:56,120 someone at oh that's the policy we've had in place Oh RC the high revised code 34 00:02:54,140 --> 00:03:00,410 dictates what we may may not invest in the duration we may invest in a lot of 35 00:02:58,670 --> 00:03:07,130 times cities municipalities will enact their own policy to kind of tweak what 36 00:03:03,410 --> 00:03:11,959 do RC permits to their liking their comfort level and I would just like to 37 00:03:10,069 --> 00:03:17,269 look at a couple other options and one example Oh RC allows us to invest in 38 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:22,850 maturities up to five years our policy is either two or three years so if we 39 00:03:21,019 --> 00:03:28,430 could extend that two or three years out another year if we can invest in some 40 00:03:25,489 --> 00:03:32,989 other federal agencies in addition to fdic-insured notes still some very 41 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:36,769 conservative options we could increase our investment income by fifty thousand 42 00:03:34,970 --> 00:03:41,180 dollars per year so that's why I think it's important to get the committee 43 00:03:38,299 --> 00:03:46,250 together with our investment advisor to to kind of get a feel for what these 44 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:52,750 small changes might mean to the cities so you're talking about millions of 45 00:03:50,090 --> 00:03:59,840 dollars being moved around I mean just some guy register boutique hello Mike 46 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:04,130 I'm I guess I'm old and does not broken don't fix it I've never been so pretty 47 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:10,489 good so I just want to bring this up for their council mayor thank you very much 48 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:17,060 mr. chairman mr. hatreds just to follow up on what mr. Clymer said I asked mr. 49 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:26,139 Clymer coming in as a new treasurer to review all of our policies investment 50 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:32,919 and otherwise because you know frankly I I I could not get the former finance 51 00:04:30,430 --> 00:04:36,520 director to really update some of the things that I thought should be looked 52 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:43,389 at so that's what he's doing and I think that's very positive for the city you're 53 00:04:39,729 --> 00:04:49,210 right if things aren't broken don't fix them however I think many of our 54 00:04:46,659 --> 00:04:54,069 policies need to be reviewed more regularly than perhaps they were 55 00:04:51,129 --> 00:04:58,180 financed and otherwise thank you all right thank you very thank you Mary I 56 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:01,990 just kinda just I know that the study's been very very strong financially and I 57 00:05:00,039 --> 00:05:07,000 wanted to remain that way I'm sure well thank you thank you but do I have a 58 00:05:05,289 --> 00:05:10,930 motion to accept the finance directors report second it's been moved and 59 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:17,379 seconded all in favor say aye aye opposed hearing that motion passes under 60 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:22,830 new business we have several items the first is item a it's a service agreement 61 00:05:19,629 --> 00:05:27,599 with Airbus ds4 the reverse 911 system chief I want to speak to that please 62 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:42,180 members of council Airbus is a service that provides the police department with 63 00:05:38,190 --> 00:05:46,590 the ability to make citywide 911 calls and even emergencies or other serious 64 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:53,610 situations we have to notify the the city as a whole an urgent matter this 65 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:58,260 particular contract was we started doing some price comparison with another 66 00:05:55,669 --> 00:06:02,460 service that does it say another company that does the same service and we are 67 00:06:00,330 --> 00:06:06,389 once the Airbus found out we were doing that they were able to lower the price 68 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:10,650 and we renegotiated a contract so to speak and saved about 4,500 dollars over 69 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:17,100 the course of five years so that's what this contract pertains to right and not 70 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:22,260 to confuse the people who might be watching this does not deal with the EMS 71 00:06:19,050 --> 00:06:26,639 or a fire no not at all 911 calls no this is a same system as we we sent out 72 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:31,260 one of these calls regarding the tax scam to residents there were a lot of 73 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:35,580 the residents were getting hit by that so we sent out one of those calls so 74 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:43,260 that's what this service provides right Thank You chief uh mr. Horvath thank you 75 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:48,450 I've a question for the chief yes chief this is art we're going you know 76 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:54,740 five-year agreement correct correct okay we've already paid for the first year 77 00:06:50,130 --> 00:06:58,289 correct okay thanks yes the administration is asking that this be 78 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,280 forward to counsel for its first reading this evening so move second move in 79 00:07:00,599 --> 00:07:07,500 seconds before this council for a first reading seeing no further discussion all 80 00:07:04,650 --> 00:07:12,180 in favor say aye aye opposed hearing none that motion passes item beyond a 81 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:17,099 new business is the taxi basement tax abatements approval the administration's 82 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:22,500 asking that this before word for action this evening so moved second and mr. 83 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:26,880 just going to speak to this mr. Clymer sure like i mentioned earlier last week 84 00:07:25,229 --> 00:07:34,020 our tax incentive review committee met to evaluate the status of all community 85 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:38,849 reinvestment properties we found that all properties were in compliance with 86 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:43,800 the CRA agreements it was one property of note whose employment level might 87 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:47,800 come into question the committee agreed to continue the CRA on that 88 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:51,520 property under the condition that we send them a letter request some more 89 00:07:49,509 --> 00:07:57,220 information and look at them a little closer next year for the renewal at that 90 00:07:53,979 --> 00:08:01,840 time and the reason for the quick emergency basis and reading on this is 91 00:07:59,770 --> 00:08:09,430 that we have to supply the state with the report of the TRC's decision by 92 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:14,710 march 31st okay any comments or questions okay seeing none we have a 93 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:21,250 motion before us it's been seconded all in favor say aye opposed hearing none 94 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:27,660 that motion passes thank you item C under new businesses employees generally 95 00:08:22,930 --> 00:08:36,550 and mayor you can speak to this please thank you very much mr. chairman members 96 00:08:30,490 --> 00:08:43,630 of council this is to add a backup inspector simply a backup not full-time 97 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:51,070 the planning zoning and building and the proposed hourly rate is better than what 98 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:57,339 we get with some of the inspectors and the second person is for a part-time 99 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:05,860 recreational bus driver this is for the seniors for their bus as you know we've 100 00:09:01,390 --> 00:09:13,360 we just lost at least one driver because of changes in pers there meant he could 101 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:18,390 no longer work for the city and that's what these two appointments are thank 102 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:26,050 you all right Thank You mr. Baca chairman to the mayor the backup 103 00:09:22,089 --> 00:09:35,620 inspector he's paying out of the permits and my print mayor mr. chairman mr. vaca 104 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:43,279 yes I think we take we take in a variety of fees that we actually use to pay for 105 00:09:39,270 --> 00:09:47,449 the inspections yeah if there's if there's not enough to cover on the 106 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:52,670 fees then you have to add that to their whoever's building what isn't correct in 107 00:09:50,540 --> 00:09:56,899 order to cover that inspector I mean if an inspector has to go back two or three 108 00:09:54,259 --> 00:10:02,089 times for the same thing mr. chairman mr. vaca we have run into that problem 109 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:11,089 in the past and that's one of the reasons that director janushka sought to 110 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:17,800 redo the fee schedule this year because we are trying to find a way to break as 111 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:22,120 even as we can in those expenses Benji thank you and the administration is 112 00:10:20,629 --> 00:10:26,209 asking that way forward is for actions second it's been moved the SEC record 113 00:10:24,769 --> 00:10:31,699 this to console the employees generally for action this evening council's agenda 114 00:10:28,370 --> 00:10:36,559 all in favor say aye opposed hearing done that motion passes item D under new 115 00:10:35,209 --> 00:10:43,879 business is the purchase of Dell computers mr. Krause Thank You mr. 116 00:10:41,329 --> 00:10:47,990 chairman every year at least her last few years we've been working on 117 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:52,459 replacing a certain number of desktop computers as part of kind of an annual 118 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:57,500 rotation if you will and working with mere facts and looking at not only 119 00:10:54,610 --> 00:11:03,139 specifications but the quantity and then also getting a rough price from them we 120 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:08,029 also looked at the state term schedule this we're recommending purchasing 28 121 00:11:05,930 --> 00:11:11,990 computers through brown and replace brown enterprise solutions that's the 122 00:11:10,610 --> 00:11:17,149 same company i think we've used the last couple years as part of the state term 123 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:23,180 schedule to purchase 28 computers that will be throughout various departments 124 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:25,699 in the city for a total of twenty four thousand three hundred sixty dollars 125 00:11:24,529 --> 00:11:30,079 taking the money from the capital improvement fund we need a motion to 126 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:35,089 Florida State Council's regular agenda so much second it's been moved and 127 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:41,920 seconded mr. horbet yeah a question for mr. cross mr. Krause how many computers 128 00:11:38,329 --> 00:11:41,920 do we have tobul 129 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:54,560 chairman accounts menai rough numbers around a hundred and five give or take 130 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:58,550 okay I in the reason why i was asking i wanted to figure out what percentage 131 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:05,660 this was a heart total so it's not that bad the chairman of the councilman which 132 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:11,480 we ideally we'd like to replace computers every when they're about four 133 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:14,930 years old depending on their age and when they were purchased some of the 134 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:18,670 numbers fluctuate a little bit like you may have 35 in one year that are over 135 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:24,230 four years and that kind of stuff so that's kind of where we're right around 136 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:30,529 that 28 to 30 number depending on their age thank you any other comments 137 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:35,930 questions and we have a motion to forward this to councils regular agenda 138 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:40,370 all in favor say aye I proposed hearing none that motion passes our last item 139 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:49,069 under new business is a grant for Aurora tree Arboretum womp mr. Krauss Thank You 140 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:54,589 mr. chairman I'm guessing maybe 11 or 12 years ago mayor McGill had worked with 141 00:12:51,649 --> 00:13:00,050 one of our state representatives and had received $50,000 allocation to be used 142 00:12:57,470 --> 00:13:04,850 for a particular project and over the years we've been trying to work with the 143 00:13:02,180 --> 00:13:09,199 Commission to figure out exactly what that could be used for the money was 144 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:13,670 earmarked initially through the Ohio cultural facilities commission but it 145 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:19,180 was titled under a Sports Complex so that kind of limited us with what we 146 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:23,600 could or couldn't use it for with the development of the Hartman Athletic 147 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:27,319 Complex and the things we've talked about through the ad hoc committee last 148 00:13:24,829 --> 00:13:31,459 year and also the tree Arboretum walk we worked with the Commission and they 149 00:13:29,540 --> 00:13:36,949 determined that that portion of the project did qualify for this $50,000 150 00:13:34,519 --> 00:13:41,720 they also stated that you needed to have that money appropriated this year 151 00:13:38,990 --> 00:13:45,949 otherwise we would lose that money if something new that the state was working 152 00:13:43,310 --> 00:13:53,839 on so this is the operating agreement for that $50,000 we have until November 153 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,350 of 2017 to complete the tree Arboretum so it isn't 154 00:13:54,520 --> 00:14:02,410 we don't have to use all the money but we do have to approve this this year for 155 00:14:00,070 --> 00:14:09,070 this $50,000 to go towards that portion of the project and it's a matching grant 156 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:14,400 correct the Chairman it's not necessarily a matching grant it's 157 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:20,470 $50,000 it goes towards the project so we have to fully fund the project and we 158 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:25,630 estimated that this would be about a ninety seven thousand dollar project to 159 00:14:22,540 --> 00:14:29,650 do the Arboretum so but it's not necessarily we spend 50 they spend 50 or 160 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:33,840 anything to that effect it's just $50,000 was appropriated us to use 161 00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:47,530 because under on page 3 of 15 it says 3.5 local match or reading that wrong 162 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,610 the project sponsor shall have local contributions amounting to not less than 163 00:14:49,090 --> 00:15:05,890 fifty percent with a grant amount for the cultural project 3.5 on page three 164 00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:14,730 oh yeah yep it says not less than 50 we have 47 okay which is less than 50 165 00:15:12,190 --> 00:15:14,730 technically 166 00:15:17,329 --> 00:15:25,999 mr. vodka mayor thank you very much we have every intention of doing whatever 167 00:15:23,569 --> 00:15:30,170 we have to do to comply with this and it's I mean the pride the total 168 00:15:28,309 --> 00:15:36,499 Arboretum is probably going to be between 95 and $100,000 but if we need 169 00:15:34,129 --> 00:15:41,029 to spend a few dollars more on it for something we will I mean if it's a 170 00:15:38,959 --> 00:15:47,139 matching in terms of it if they're willing to give 50 we have to match it 171 00:15:42,589 --> 00:15:57,759 with 50 right yeah if it's magic okay all right mister Baca Thank You mr. 172 00:15:54,769 --> 00:16:04,549 chairman yeah it's not nasty that's necessarily a 50 grand but um when can 173 00:16:01,939 --> 00:16:16,519 we start on us as soon as possible we're there whatever would mr. chairman mr. 174 00:16:09,499 --> 00:16:25,579 vaca we have a revised plan for this entire apartment complex that we're 175 00:16:20,959 --> 00:16:31,179 still working on and I don't expect that we'll start the Arboretum this year what 176 00:16:28,669 --> 00:16:37,759 we're aiming to do among other things after I mean I'm also trying to get some 177 00:16:34,489 --> 00:16:44,869 broad-based support for this in the community and we hope to at the very 178 00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:51,980 least finish some fields there this year ball fields as well as soccer fields 179 00:16:46,879 --> 00:17:00,910 which of necessity will also mean some kind of parking area there if you'll 180 00:16:56,179 --> 00:17:07,519 recall there is 350 thousand dollars budgeted this year toward this project 181 00:17:04,370 --> 00:17:15,049 and we fully recognize that was just a part of the entire project Thank You mr. 182 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:20,290 Baca where you're going to have if you're gonna have field 183 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:25,090 construction you may need equipment big equipment and while the equipment's 184 00:17:22,420 --> 00:17:29,470 there would it not be the food that we start on the ibrehem to tell whether to 185 00:17:27,340 --> 00:17:34,020 land out any way to get it while you have that machinery there I mean that's 186 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:41,290 probably all you're going to get done but not the wheat I don't know what's 187 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:46,210 involved all I know is that it's designed to take in two different types 188 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:50,470 of trees families and start the wine go to the end or but you're going to have 189 00:17:47,860 --> 00:18:00,010 to do some dirt work and as long as the equipment's there with that Mandy's also 190 00:17:53,230 --> 00:18:05,560 made it took 50 mr. chairman mr. vaca we expect that this project is going to be 191 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:13,450 done in stages and will also likely be bid in stages and I don't I don't know 192 00:18:10,660 --> 00:18:19,060 that we have the money in the budget this year to put towards the Arboretum 193 00:18:15,730 --> 00:18:25,000 because engineering costs are quite extensive as well for the project but we 194 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:30,790 will do it as efficiently as we can do it but for the most part this our staff 195 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:38,320 is not going to be doing this we are going to bid this project all right 196 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:47,650 Thank You mr. Gatto Thank You mayor miss McDougal Thank You mr. chairman to the 197 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:52,510 mayor just clarifying the 350,000 that we put aside this year did any of that 198 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:59,170 has any of that allocated towards the arboretum or is all of that allocated 199 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:04,500 towards sports fields mere mr. chairman ms macdougald it's not specifically 200 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:13,630 allocated other than to the Hartman project but from the figures that we use 201 00:19:09,580 --> 00:19:20,560 to come with mr. Krause that we use to come up with that three hundred and 202 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:26,990 fifty thousand dollars the fields that we want to do are going to probably push 203 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:37,309 that limit thank you one more question um just again for clarification if we 204 00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:45,950 have to claim this by November next year okay so November of 70 is when this has 205 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:52,490 to be complete okay so do you expect then that will probably be doing 206 00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:57,710 construction on it a year from now mere mr. chairman is macdougald yes okay 207 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:04,100 great thank you mr. Krause you wanted to add yeah just in reviewing the local 208 00:20:01,550 --> 00:20:08,510 match it's fifty percent of the grant amount in the grant amount is $50,000 so 209 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:14,300 we need fifty percent of that which is 25 so the fact that we're matching or 210 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:23,660 we're going to 47 is actually fulfilling that requirement right okay mr. Walton 211 00:20:21,070 --> 00:20:28,610 Thank You chairman I just wanted to point out with respect to the plans and 212 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:35,750 where the Arboretum is going to we don't know exactly where it's going to be yet 213 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:41,510 so the topography of the of the part of the property where it may be may or may 214 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:45,470 not need to be graded depending on where the Arboretum actually lies so I think 215 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:49,790 that's it we're kind of still in a state of flux with respect to how everything's 216 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:59,750 going to finally be laid out so once we know that mr. Bokka mr. Wolfe I believe 217 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:05,270 tentatively speaking the Arboretum would be next to thee what is that nature 218 00:21:02,510 --> 00:21:11,860 center that makes the only common sense place to put anywhere else would be out 219 00:21:09,010 --> 00:21:17,980 character this would be a buffer zone between that particular property and our 220 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:21,520 proposed Sports Complex I think they if I saw the last layout that's where it 221 00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:29,020 was going to go and then a parking lot in the front in case you haven't seen it 222 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:37,960 that's what I had seen you should be Thank You mr. mr. wolf Thank You mr. 223 00:21:35,230 --> 00:21:42,430 chairman no I i have seen it okay the committee what the committee approved is 224 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:47,680 is not what is currently on the table so we are reviewing what is being proposed 225 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:54,310 as a change so what you have seen is an actual proposed change to what has been 226 00:21:49,630 --> 00:22:04,000 approved thank you guys good yeah we're good there Thank You mr. chairman mr. 227 00:21:59,830 --> 00:22:09,730 vodka not approved by council and not approved by the administration this is 228 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:19,270 merely the recommendation of the ad hoc rec committee and we are trying to 229 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:26,110 accommodate our neighbors in this design and that's why the arboretum as you 230 00:22:23,170 --> 00:22:35,350 correctly noted has been suggested to be moved along the audubon property to the 231 00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:44,290 north okay so we have a plan that's in process great guys okay yes all right 232 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:50,260 mr. Hetrick thank you Mr Colley I believe the total acreage out there is 233 00:22:46,540 --> 00:22:56,920 130 acres is that correct chairman of the council 127 okay and do we have 234 00:22:54,130 --> 00:23:03,580 planned anywhere how many acres are going to be dedicated is out Harbor 235 00:22:59,050 --> 00:23:08,200 adium chairman of councilman that's part of the kind of plan revision we have an 236 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:14,860 idea I don't know what the acreage is on that area but we kind of have the area 237 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:19,060 where where we go so once we get through these tweaking if you will of the plan 238 00:23:17,470 --> 00:23:20,840 then the next step obviously the plan will then have to go to planning 239 00:23:20,170 --> 00:23:27,230 commission for conditional zoning so at that point 240 00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:32,270 will become public okay you know good to get your plan so the amount of acreage 241 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:38,179 are in the process of being planned yeah very good that's all I got okay kind of 242 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:44,809 summarize that up any other comments or questions yeah don't don't forget this 243 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:53,750 mayor hi won't mr. Kelly members of council we are trying to do this 244 00:23:48,650 --> 00:23:58,070 carefully and rather than going right ahead and taking it through the 245 00:23:56,299 --> 00:24:04,899 administrative steps that we need to take it through frankly I have told mr. 246 00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:09,110 Krause that I wanted to meet with certain members of council that were 247 00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:16,460 particularly impacted or could be impacted by this and go over it with 248 00:24:12,289 --> 00:24:21,080 them to get feedback because we've already gotten some feedback from the 249 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:28,010 community so that's why it's not immediately going through the official 250 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:36,320 process we want your your input okay thanks okay misfiring how to get my my 251 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:41,899 word in or the root of the problem kidding having said that has the 252 00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:47,029 feedback been pretty proactive I would think that for what will be an amenity 253 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:53,840 to the city and obviously taking a cautious process will just make it that 254 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:58,570 much nicer but i'd be interested in here in the feedback because i haven't heard 255 00:24:55,100 --> 00:25:07,100 other than the planning part part of it thank you all right ma'am mr. chairman 256 00:25:03,140 --> 00:25:18,320 mr. barner i would say yes mrs. Varner sorry about that I've gotten that too so 257 00:25:11,179 --> 00:25:23,870 oh well um mr. mayor we you know I think once it goes through the process it will 258 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:29,840 be a little more public but I mean the abl for instance knows we're working on 259 00:25:26,299 --> 00:25:34,470 this they want the fields we've had discussions with the audubon society 260 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:41,250 because was important from my perspective that 261 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:46,080 we have a peaceful coexistence with them even though we might develop this 262 00:25:43,169 --> 00:25:52,620 property so you know we're trying to be sensitive and also to council members 263 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:57,360 concerns or issues and you know it's a deliberative process thank you thank you 264 00:25:55,100 --> 00:26:02,549 okay we need a motion to forward this to counsel for a second excuse me we need 265 00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:07,650 to forward about we need to have a motion to forward this to counsel for 266 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:14,480 its regular agenda like it's Elmo's second okay it's best that we know what 267 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:19,770 we're motion before we motion it so seeing no further discussion all in 268 00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:24,809 favor say aye aye opposed hearing none that motion passes and unfortunately 269 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,429 we're out of time so we need to have a motion to adjourn so move that gets the 270 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:35,659 Lincoln second to adjourn all in favor say aye composed hearing done this 271 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,659 meeting is a very can't blame