[0:00] See,
[0:16] I goes here.
[0:35] Right.
[1:03] for that. And there would have been
probably about
[1:26] Yes.
>> Are you doing the proclamation?
[1:29] » And I said something.
>> Oh, I'm just I just brought a picture.
[1:34] Come up. Any excuse not to let you come.
[1:44] of the United States of the United
States of America and to the republic
[1:48] for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:54] justice for all. And if we could please
have a few moments of silence for Cookie
[1:58] Romo Reyes.
[snorts]
[2:09] » Seated.
[2:17] » Are there any announcements or written
communications?
[2:21] » Uh if we could do roll call real quick.
>> Okay. Council member Delarosa
[2:26] » here.
>> Council member Leau
[2:27] » here.
>> Council member Lopez
[2:29] » here.
>> Mayor Prompon
[2:30] » here.
>> Mayor Marshall, [laughter]
[2:32] » I think I'm here.
>> Okay. Are there any announcements or
[2:35] written communications?
>> Uh, city staff received through written
[2:38] communications regarding item 6, CPU
draft resolution T-17934.
[2:44] Copies have been distributed to city
council and is on file uh in the city
[2:48] clerk's office.
>> Thank you. Department head reports.
[2:58] Good afternoon, mayor, city council
members, and city staff. Jackie
[3:02] Cordderero, public works director. Over
the past couple of weeks, the public
[3:06] works crew has completed a variety of
routine maintenance projects. Like
[3:10] they've been working really hard
continuing street markings. I know I've
[3:14] been saying that for a while, but
they're still doing that. Irrigation
[3:17] repairs, landscape work, pressure
washing. Um, we did a lot of work
[3:21] leading up to the concert, the ABA
concert, um, which I think, uh, really
[3:25] helped, uh, restroom plumbing repairs,
park maintenance, and cemetery services.
[3:30] The crew also assisted with mole mole
core drilling, saltwater leak at the
[3:35] trail head, metropolo excavation
project, and the JMF T maintenance. They
[3:41] continue to repair Chip and Falls,
installing finishing touches to the
[3:44] maintenance yard gate at um and fence
and installing guardrail and lower
[3:49] terrace. The public works leadership
team will be managing a couple of
[3:53] projects in the next month. Early
October, we will have our annual tree
[3:56] trimming. More to come um at next
council meeting. I'll be represent
[4:00] presenting a staff report on that. Uh
best contracting service will be out
[4:05] this month starting on the two roofing
projects we've been talking about. the
[4:09] lab roof at the wastewater treatment
plant and the casino restroom showers
[4:14] roof. Um, any questions?
>> I just have a question on the tree
[4:18] trimming and I believe I mentioned it to
you that there might be someone that's
[4:21] willing to
pay for the removal of those 80 60 80
[4:27] foot palm trees downtown that really
don't provide shade. And I think you
[4:32] said you might have the the arborist or
something look at those. Oh. Uh, the
[4:37] palm trees on Front Street, the really
tall ones.
[4:39] » You Yeah, just that little bit of on the
top. [clears throat]
[4:42] » Yes. Yes, we did get the assessment
back. I haven't reviewed everything um
[4:46] that the arburist assessed. Um he that
person did a ton and it's all documented
[4:52] and entered into our GIS, which is
great. So, it gives a condition um if
[4:57] it's uh needs to be removed, uh what
year it should be removed, all of that
[5:02] good stuff. So, I haven't looked at
those, but um we will address them. They
[5:06] will be trimmed like normal, like every
uh year we do that. And if it needs to
[5:11] be replaced, it will be replaced.
>> Again, they just they're they're just a
[5:16] stick in the air, [laughter] you know.
So, I don't see any value to them.
[5:20] » Yeah.
>> In terms of that, so if we could get
[5:24] have somebody pay for planting of new
kinds of trees that would work better,
[5:28] provide shade, and it it might be kind
of nice.
[5:31] » Yeah. Just my opinion. Yeah. Okay. Thank
you. Any questions or comments?
[5:35] » Did you get a chance to talk to the city
manager about the no rental golf carts
[5:40] or no ebikes up on East Ridley?
>> Do you remember?
[5:45] » We did. We We have talked about that.
We're looking at We have to work with
[5:49] sheriffs and also talk talk about
whether or not that's something we can
[5:53] legally enforce. But yeah, I think I
think there's certainly signage.
[5:56] » There's one sign up there says no rental
golf carts and then the rest is what the
[6:00] neighbors have made.
>> Yeah, I I think uh and that's part of
[6:03] what I'm going to talk about tonight is
with code we're kind of focusing on
[6:07] Whitley right now um to try to take care
of some things, but we're going to look
[6:10] at getting some signage up there.
>> And Jackie, uh did the asphalt arrive a
[6:15] couple months ago? I wasn't sure if I
wrote that incorrectly on my notes or
[6:19] are we going to start working on that?
the asphalt the pilot program that I
[6:22] have um I have a PO uh waiting for
signature from Dave on that one. I think
[6:28] we're going to talk it through but um
yeah
[6:30] » Dave is that regarding
>> asphalt
[6:34] » asphalt where
>> yeah and start doing the the roads.
[6:37] » Oh well oh yeah I thought that was on
the next year's calendar or something
[6:41] but
>> well on Sumner you're talking about the
[6:43] Sumar.
>> Oh just Sumner. Oh I see. Okay.
[6:46] » Yeah. which is the pilot program because
we're doing um it's type two asphalt
[6:50] which is different than we've used in
the past. So we want to see what it
[6:54] looks like um before we actually do the
whole um town.
[6:58] » Oh, cool. Yeah.
>> Okay.
[7:00] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[7:10] » Good evening, mayor, council, city
staff. Michael Aliggria, fire chief.
[7:16] In August, we had 103 143 total calls,
79 medical, 63 other. As of 4:00, we're
[7:25] at 914 for the year.
>> Wow. The zone zero law passed a few
[7:30] weeks ago, so we'll get some more info
on that um out soon to you guys about
[7:35] the things around the house, but it's a
three to five year implementation.
[7:43] And then remind everyone, casino 8 am on
911 in the station at 11.
[7:50] And then just as a heads up, the
the Catalina Island Health is redoing
[7:56] their CT machine, they're updating the
guts of the inside. So So for those two
[8:01] weeks, instead of having to fly
everybody over, they're bringing over a
[8:05] temporary trailer that's going to be
just past the driveway. So, we're going
[8:09] to lose some parking for a week and a
half or so at the school, but we've been
[8:14] in contact with them, but so we have a
CP machine. We'll have traffic control,
[8:19] but for a few for about a week and a
half, we'll have someone there with that
[8:23] trailer. Um, but that way we don't have
to fly everybody. It's going to be
[8:27] emergency use only, but we're working
with them on that.
[8:30] » And it'll be on that side.
>> It'll be on the Yes. Right hand side
[8:34] going up.
>> Okay. Excellent. Good.
[8:37] » Questions, comments? Yep. Thanks. Mhm.
[8:53] » Good evening, Mayor, Council, City
Staff. Kevin Schmidt, Harbor Master.
[8:59] Hope everybody had a terrific Tuesday.
Um right now in the harbor uh our
[9:05] biggest focus is forecast weather for
the weekend. So I'm sure some of you may
[9:10] have heard um there's a south swell
forecast uh for Labor Day. So luckily
[9:16] right now it's improving. The forecast
has improved last you know between last
[9:20] night and this morning. Uh tomorrow
we've already started but tomorrow the
[9:23] next Thursday you'll see us doing some
stuff in the harbor preparing for that
[9:28] uh potential uh south swell. So, keep
our fingers crossed, watching the
[9:33] weather and trying to keep everybody
informed of what's going on. So,
[9:38] uh the Yach Club, just as a heads up, is
having their end of, uh season ceremony
[9:43] on Saturday. Um regardless of South
Swelling, um even though even with the
[9:50] weather forecast, we expect to have a
very busy weekend. Again, Labor Day,
[9:55] kind of the symbolic, you know, end of
summer, but we're still going to be
[9:58] busy. Uh the outrigger race is the
following weekend that brings in a lot
[10:01] of boats. So we got a fishing tournament
the war heroes on water. So summer's not
[10:07] quite over uh in the harbor. Uh stats
wise [clears throat]
[10:12] for August of this year uh we ended up
with 2352
[10:17] arrivals,
9,130
[10:21] moing nights. uh compared to last
August, we had more arrivals uh this
[10:26] year, but fewer just slightly fewer uh
total morning nights. So, uh but very
[10:31] close. Stats-wise,
since our last get together, uh we've
[10:38] had three sites, uh four medicals, uh 38
enforcement calls, three LAD assists,
[10:47] 99 public assists, and three Coast Guard
assists. Any questions?
[10:55] Okay, thank you.
[11:04] Good evening, Madame Mayor, esteemed
council members, and uh city staff. I'm
[11:08] Sergeant Terry Bllelock of the Avalanche
Sheriff Station Operations.
[11:12] » Just speak up just a little bit more.
Thank you.
[11:14] » Sorry about that.
>> That's okay.
[11:17] » I'll give you the stats for the month of
uh of August. Deputies uh logged over
[11:21] 589
log entries, 397 observations,
[11:27] 188 calls for service. Uh they conducted
uh 12 traffic stops, eight ped stops,
[11:33] six citations were issued, 14 warnings
were uh giving, and three parking
[11:38] citations.
Uh recently, we've had uh a few
[11:43] incidents that have uh been reported to
our department. one ending in an arrest
[11:47] that was at uh 125 Metropole Avenue. It
was a domestic violence situation where
[11:53] the victim sustained u some significant
injuries to her face. Uh the suspect was
[11:58] uh placed under arrest and uh was booked
at our station and uh later bonded out.
[12:03] Um, also deputies responded to a assault
with a deadly weapon call. Uh, that was
[12:10] on uh this past uh Sunday and uh that
was on um Sumar Avenue at one of the
[12:16] local bars. Uh apparently there was a
melee and during the course um we
[12:21] identified at least uh three suspects
that were involved and six victims. One
[12:26] of the victims sustained uh injuries to
their ear and the charges that are going
[12:31] to be pending is going to be assault
with the deadly weapon, battery, and
[12:35] man.
>> Are those locals or visitors?
[12:38] » Uh combination of both.
>> Okay.
[12:42] » Uh next, um we did have a report of a
battery uh that occurred. It initially
[12:50] came out as a domestic violence uh that
occurred uh right in the waterway. Um
[12:57] but it later determined through further
investigation that it was just an
[13:00] assault and um victim is no longer
desires of prosecution.
[13:06] » So what was the hallelu in front of the
elento yesterday?
[13:10] » Excuse me.
>> There was something going on in front of
[13:12] the elento yesterday. There was a
gentleman standing there and there were
[13:15] four three of your vehicles and four of
y'all were there. I was wondering what
[13:19] that was.
>> Oh yes. Uh deputies responded to a call
[13:24] of a stolen uh golf cart. Uh suspect uh
was uh located and uh they decided to
[13:32] handle it civily between the victim and
the suspect and compensation was meant
[13:38] and uh victim was no longer desires of
prosecution.
[13:40] » Oh, good. Thanks. Okay.
Questions or comments?
[13:45] » I [clears throat] have a quick one. Do
you know if Captain King has given the
[13:48] coalition for deer uh the audio tape and
the sheriff's log for the gunshots? I
[13:56] think it was August 21st.
>> Uh the question is regarding the phone
[14:00] calls that came in regarding uh
gunshots. Is that was the question?
[14:04] [snorts] Uh I can tell you that um we
did receive uh two calls that uh that
[14:11] came in. Currently there is a
administrative investigation regarding
[14:15] the uh conduct and the information that
was relayed during those uh those calls
[14:20] but uh from my what I understand that uh
that there were no um I think
[14:25] [clears throat] it was in regard to some
sort of abatement regarding deer. We
[14:28] were get we got confirmation that there
was no um
[14:33] » Did you give the coalition they were
asking for the audio tape from the phone
[14:38] call made that night and they were
asking for the sheriff's log of where
[14:43] the sheriff's responded? So you don't
know if that was given to them?
[14:48] » Uh I don't believe it was given at the
time because there is an administrative
[14:51] investigating regarding the conduct of
the the call.
[14:56] » Thank you. That was very thorough.
>> You're welcome. Very much. Thank you.
[15:00] » And real quickly, uh, to Councilman
Lopez's question, I spoke with Captain
[15:04] King today and asked that same question
and he said it will be as soon as
[15:08] they're done with their internal
investigation. So, he he is aware of the
[15:11] request.
[15:15] » Good evening, council. Matt Baker,
finance director. Um, don't have a whole
[15:19] lot to report out. I did check at the
July TOT numbers in July. Uh we're still
[15:25] compiling numbers, but it looks like
we're going to be up for the month of
[15:28] July from July of last year. The next
meeting I'll get the full revenue uh
[15:32] report out for the the month of July. Um
but early signs look promising for for
[15:37] July revenues
unless there's any questions.
[15:41] » Thank you.
[15:46] » Good evening, Madame Mayor Council.
Um we have an update on the mobile LED
[15:52] screen. It's on the island. We have
secured a spot and it's fully covered.
[15:56] We took it last Wednesday to several
spots on Front Street where it fit where
[16:01] it would fit for events using an
electric hand dolly. Um it fit
[16:04] incredibly well within the framework of
our streets without impeding any traffic
[16:08] flow. Um there will be two events um
that will be showcasing the screening
[16:14] this September. Um one will be the
Catalina Crossing and two will be the
[16:18] Catalina Film Festival. That's right,
the festival season is here in Avalon.
[16:23] This month alone, we have three
festivals coming. We have the se 62nd
[16:27] annual Catalina Crossing. Um that's the
SCORA US Outrigger Championships weekend
[16:33] of the 12th and 13th. The Catalina Art
Festival the weekend of the 18th through
[16:39] the 20th and the Catalina Film Festival
the weekend of the 24th through the
[16:43] 27th. In October, we will have the jazz
tracks from the 9th through the 11th and
[16:49] the 16th through the 18th. Also, the
second annual Mermaid Festival um
[16:55] October 23rd to to the 25th, at least
for the weekends, the island should be
[17:00] packed over the next two months.
Currently, we are hiring a part-time
[17:05] recreation leader position to add to our
staffing. Um the person will be
[17:09] responsible for organizing and leading
our youth and adult recreational
[17:13] programs. We do prefer the applicant to
know multiple sports, but more
[17:18] importantly be able to manage the
coaches, referees, parents, and kids. We
[17:23] are also hiring part-time recreational
aids who will be under the management of
[17:26] the recreational leader. Must be able to
understand and referee sports programs.
[17:32] Please apply online at cityoflon.com
under human resources and employment
[17:37] opportunities. Is there any questions?
>> I've had a request from the community.
[17:44] So Christine, the the water aerobics
person has gone off island, right? But
[17:49] they were wondering as if there's any
way it could be continued because it's
[17:53] such a wonderful activity.
>> I actually could not hear you.
[17:58] » What's that?
>> I actually could not hear you about the
[18:00] water aerobics.
>> Yeah, because it's it's finished up. But
[18:04] they were wondering if if they if there
was an instructor if they could continue
[18:09] the courses, the water aerobics up at
the hotel.
[18:13] » Yeah. If if we have an if we have an
instructor um we would look at
[18:19] um extending the the services. Yes.
>> Okay. If there's any aerobic water
[18:24] aerobic instructors out there, please
give David a call.
[18:27] » Yes, please do. [laughter]
>> Okay.
[18:29] » Thank you.
>> I have a quick question.
[18:31] » Yes, ma'am.
>> You guys also bought a little electric
[18:34] thing to move that LED screen around.
>> It's electric handle.
[18:38] » How much was that?
>> Uh that was 1,500.
[18:41] » How much?
>> 1,500.
[18:43] 1500.
>> Yes.
[18:44] » So that wasn't with the original 72,000.
>> No.
[18:49] » Okay.
>> But we we decided to purchase that so we
[18:52] didn't have to drive a truck down Front
Street. Try to back that in through
[18:56] Front Street as well as the maintenance
um yard can utilize it to easily move
[19:02] the the uh where you're going to keep it
then up in the maintenance yard.
[19:06] » Yeah. Okay. Right. Thank you.
[19:13] Hey, that's it. Oh, city manager,
>> I think that's it. Uh, thank you. Thank
[19:16] you, council. Um,
couple updates for tonight. Just, uh, as
[19:21] we've talked about the community court,
uh, we're on schedule for the community
[19:26] court to open up here. October 2nd is
the tenative date we have right now.
[19:31] Hopefully uh if we're able if
everybody's online to meet that date,
[19:35] we'll get information out as we uh get
closer. But there will be a open house
[19:40] up here at city hall. They're going to
have the number of judges over here.
[19:42] They're going to bring their state city
their staff and resources for the first
[19:46] opening of that city uh community court
that will be here in the lobby. So,
[19:51] that's been something that uh
essentially has been funded by the
[19:55] Superior Court, LA Superior Court to
allow our residents to have access to
[19:59] many more services through the court
system without having to go over town.
[20:03] So, we're excited about that. Our our
commitment to that was we provided the
[20:08] desk where the computers will lie and
and and we'll make the connection for
[20:13] the computers, but other than that,
they're providing all that information,
[20:16] all that backwork, all that uh um and we
do not have to have uh you know, they'll
[20:21] train our staff that will be at the
front desk to answer any questions, but
[20:25] for the most part, we're trying to make
it I understand it's in the lobby. We'll
[20:29] provide some screening for some privacy.
Uh but it is o court is open to the
[20:35] public. So people will be in there.
They'll have some screening but it will
[20:38] be open as uh for usual. So we'll be
open during all business hours for them
[20:42] for our residents to have access to
that. So more to come on that.
[20:47] Um updates on code enforcement stats for
the month of August. Uh four reports of
[20:54] uh stolen golf carts, six reports of
vehicles without city commercial
[20:58] permits. They did 10 red tags on
abandoned vehicles, uh three golf cart
[21:04] toes, um two graffiti reports with
cleanup, um six building code violations
[21:10] and investigations. Uh most of those are
still ongoing. Uh number of verbal
[21:16] warnings for early construction, four
reports for illegal signage at Step
[21:20] Beach, four stop work orders or work
going on on Sundays. Overall, they had
[21:25] 50 animal control calls for the month of
August.
[21:29] Um, two violation letters for disposal
of boxes and enforcement of uh all the
[21:37] uh the containers down there in the
alley between chats and the buildings
[21:43] that the that fills up uh quite quickly.
And I also want to give a shout out to
[21:48] Jeffrey Hernandez from code enforcement
who was able to create a mechanism to
[21:53] prevent those lids from swinging all the
way and hitting Chad's hardware which
[21:57] was causing problems and leaving the
bins open and allowing the Ravens to get
[22:01] in there. So now those can only go part
way and they'll fall back hopefully stay
[22:05] closed and keep it cleaner down there.
Um in addition code had uh they sent
[22:11] letters to all the restaurants regarding
the fog program. They had two fog
[22:15] violations with citations and two uh
restaurant inspections. Uh overall uh 65
[22:23] calls for service for the month. Uh they
did assist at five corners for traffic
[22:27] and up at the school on the first day of
school. um cleaned up three encap
[22:33] encampments
um and uh assisted company on a pretty
[22:39] pretty major uh encampment cleanup up
behind the pet cemetery uh a week ago.
[22:45] Um, in addition, uh, I mentioned earlier
that, you know, meeting with code
[22:51] enforcement, we are, uh, setting a
little bit of a focus on, uh, abandoned
[22:57] vehicles and how we're treating
abandoned vehicles, trying to access
[23:01] access them and get them moved and off
the street sooner than the current
[23:05] policy. Um, we are focusing on Whitley.
Uh we've identified a number of vehicles
[23:12] uh on Whitley that have not moved for a
period of time, some on the street, some
[23:16] partly on the sidewalk, some between
buildings, reaching out to residents
[23:20] saying if this is a uh a dead vehicle,
you have no intention of using it.
[23:26] Again, we're throwing out the amnesty
program. We will uh tow it off the
[23:30] island for you for free if you just sign
over the title to get rid of these
[23:33] vehicles that are just really taking up
space. So, uh, we're back to pushing
[23:39] that forward. I would also indicate
we've, um, done a shift on the code
[23:43] enforcement schedule. So, we will now,
we used to have just one code
[23:47] enforcement officer on for part of the
day on Sunday. Now, we will have code
[23:54] enforcement officer all day on Sunday.
So, this will give us full coverage
[23:57] eight hours a day, seven days a week.
And both of them will be on certain two
[24:02] or three days a week together. But, uh,
this way we have full coverage Monday
[24:06] through all the way through Monday
through Sunday. Any questions?
[24:11] » Well,
okay. Council reports the attorney.
[24:18] » Hi, Scott. I can't see your beautiful
face, so I forgot you were there.
[24:21] » Yeah, I am here. I do have a report
today.
[24:25] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Well, we'll hear from you later.
[24:27] » No, he's got one. He's
>> Oh, you've got a report today?
[24:30] » Yes, I actually have a report. Um, for
the last uh year or so, uh, the city and
[24:35] our, uh, code enforcement and our, uh,
and our code enforcement attorneys have
[24:40] been trying to work with the owners of
345 Sumner, um, on remediating that that
[24:47] property. Uh, we we were able to get an
inspection and we went into that
[24:52] property and examined the property and
the property was found to be in complete
[24:57] disrepair, uninhabitable. its foundation
was unstable and the structure was in
[25:03] immediate danger of collapsing. We tried
to work with an owner with the owner to
[25:08] go ahead and rehabilitate that. We were
unable to do so. So, um uh in July uh we
[25:16] went to court and a receiver has been
appointed for that property. What this
[25:20] means is is that the receiver is going
to be in charge of the cleanup of this
[25:25] property which includes the demolition
of the property, the rebuilding of the
[25:30] property so that it is safe and then the
sale of that property. The city will be
[25:36] be will be reimbursed all of its costs
and fees um including um attorney fees
[25:42] for this for the rehabilitation of this
property. the importance of this
[25:46] property was not only was it a fire
hazard, but because of the uh the the
[25:52] the vermin that were there, it was
causing danger to residents. And so,
[25:57] we're going to clean up the property and
replace it with some housing uh that
[26:01] we'll be able to actually use for for
multi- uh for a multi- structure housing
[26:07] uh um unit. So, um that will be done and
again at no cost to the city um once the
[26:14] it is completed.
>> Excellent. Thank you. Okay,
[26:19] » council members,
>> can I go first?
[26:21] » Yes, you may.
>> I have a couple of things. Um in regards
[26:24] to the water aerobics, uh the Catalini
Canyon messaged me and they can do those
[26:29] through October. So, if you can find an
instructor,
[26:32] » they can use the pool through October.
>> Okay. And then my second thing is um
[26:38] a story here about Oans's. Uh Olans is
not officially out of business, but it
[26:42] has shut down its California CRV
recycling machines after stating that
[26:48] state regulations made the operation
unsustainable. Do we know anything about
[26:53] that, Dave?
>> We uh I received the same note as
[26:57] probably you did yesterday. So, we're in
the process of reaching out to Olins's
[27:01] uh in particular, not only because we
have one, but we have two additional
[27:05] ones that we just got from them that
have not gone online. So, uh we're
[27:09] working we're working through that.
We'll let you know as soon as what we
[27:12] find out.
>> That's all I have.
[27:15] » Oh, that's
[27:18] going next. Um okay, so we are ramping
back up. Uh we have started youth and
[27:24] government again. So this week is a sign
up for the kiddos up at school. Um we
[27:29] have more already signed up than we did
last year. So that's very exciting. So
[27:33] what this with uh the program usually
entails is uh two camps for them and
[27:37] that's preparing them with civic
engagement and a lot of uh local
[27:41] government education. They will also
pick a bill that they have to represent
[27:45] and in those in those bills um we pretty
much treat it as the government would.
[27:50] So we took it to each branch and
hopefully it passes. Last year it passed
[27:54] all the way and it got signed by the
youth and government governor. So that
[27:58] was our first year too. So fingers
crossed for our second year. Uh women's
[28:02] forum is also ramping back up. Um last
year we started with uh it was our first
[28:08] year going freshman to senior. So we're
keeping that same um style going this
[28:13] year, but because it was so many girls,
we now have enough mentors to be able to
[28:18] divide each class to represent each
grade. Um and within that we'll have one
[28:23] or two girls represent their class kind
of like class representatives. So
[28:27] they'll have um their own events
depending on their class grade and a
[28:31] couple of them with all the girls
together. Um we usually have one event
[28:34] each month for the girls. Um and then of
course the senior girls get their
[28:38] scholarship at the end of the year. Um
and another big thing that we got going
[28:42] on uh we were pursuing boys and girls
club. It did not work out for us. Uh,
[28:48] but we don't give up and that's okay. It
actually ended up working out better
[28:52] than we expected. We started our own
nonprofit. So, it's new. It is called
[28:59] the Catalina Island Youth Investment
Fund. And in this nonprofit under it is
[29:05] a program and the program is called
Avalon Youth Impact Program. what we
[29:09] have started so far and again first year
and [laughter] this is just the first
[29:13] two weeks. We already have tutoring for
math and English and that'll be middle
[29:17] school and high school. Uh we will have
a drum line so we will have music. We
[29:21] will have art for both middle school and
high school. Uh we will have trades and
[29:26] that's one of the best things that I'm
very excited for because we don't have a
[29:29] lot of that on the island. Uh we are
exploring all avenues for trades but at
[29:33] the moment we are starting to roll out a
construction program and that will start
[29:38] next month and in that program um the
cool thing about the skills trades is
[29:43] that we are also doing it if you
complete all 18 to 20 classes you will
[29:48] receive a $2,000 scholarship as well as
any high school kids junior seniors that
[29:53] would like to intern to help tutoring.
they will also receive a scholarship of
[29:57] $2,000, but you will have to complete
110 120 hours to be able to actually
[30:03] receive that scholarship. Uh, at the end
of it all, we should be handing out at
[30:07] least 60,000 in scholarships. Um, hoping
we can get more funding so we can
[30:12] release more funds. Um, but yeah, so at
this moment, if there is any uh anyone
[30:17] out there on the island that is, you
know, plumbing, electrician, mechanic
[30:21] that is willing to start a program, we
are more than interested. And if you're
[30:25] not, I'm still going to reach out. So,
be ready. [laughter]
[30:28] » Who's the majority of the funding coming
from at this point?
[30:31] » Uh, there are donors uh from Mike
Lancing with the Boys and Girls Club.
[30:34] So, he still had his list and luckily it
worked out for us. So, our first year is
[30:38] fully funded.
>> Cool.
[30:40] » Yes.
>> Awesome. That's great news. [applause]
[30:43] That is great news.
[30:47] » Okay.
>> I have nothing.
[30:50] » Um, so just a few things. Um, Gateway
City's COG this month will be coming to
[30:54] Catalina as long as the hurricane backs
down. Um, it seems that we've been in a
[31:00] cycle of government visits with
hurricanes, and I'm really hoping to
[31:03] break that cycle this this year.
>> And that date is,
[31:06] » uh, it's going to be September 8th
through the 10th. The 8th is actually a
[31:10] day where a number of the COG members
and staff will be able to enjoy the
[31:15] island and get to learn a little bit
about the island by utilizing local
[31:18] tours. And then the actual conference
starts midday on the 9th and finishes
[31:23] midday on the 10th. So excited to see
everyone there. Again, COG is going to
[31:27] be uh the 24 cities and government
entities that represent our cities um in
[31:33] attendance. Up to two representatives
per city can come to the meetings per
[31:38] the Brown Act. And um so yeah, should be
really enjoyable in terms
[31:42] » and it's going to be held
>> uh topside. Topside
[31:45] » topside. Yep. Um and then um met with
the Conover family regarding the case
[31:53] that we had heard the denovo case for
the property at the corner of Metropol
[31:58] and Beacon and just wanted to make sure
that um city planning. I know Kelly is
[32:03] not here tonight, but I'll reach out to
her after the call the meeting tonight.
[32:06] Um there were some questions regarding
setbacks on the property. Um, if I
[32:12] recall from the recordings, we had
agreed to a 14t setback from the
[32:17] property line for the upper stories and
the current space that's there is
[32:21] definitely not 14 ft. So, um, just
hoping that that can move forward with
[32:25] an investigation. I know the city um I
know Mike Flynn had been up there
[32:30] measuring it earlier this week and also
the city inspector. So, just waiting to
[32:34] hear back on that. Um, and then also
there was the issue of a breezeway
[32:39] between the sidewalk and the side of the
building, especially for the space where
[32:42] there was going to be employee housing.
Um, just making sure that that still was
[32:45] part of the plans as well. Um, a friend
of mine sent me a copy of uh the city of
[32:50] San Diego's prep checklist for El Nino
and I was wondering if we might be able
[32:55] to put together something similar. I
think Avalon is somewhat fortunate or
[33:00] unfortunate and that we're used to
having to know what to do when there's
[33:03] large storms that come up and people are
kind of already ready to roll and city
[33:07] is always ready to roll for that. Um,
but it was a good checklist of just
[33:10] making sure certain insuranceances are
up to date. Um, gutters are cleared,
[33:14] your house is cleared of debris and
trash so that when there is a large
[33:18] amount of rain flow that you're able to
safely navigate around your house and
[33:22] others can too. Um, and then had a few
help lines and spots for info. So, I'll
[33:26] send you guys the link. If you think
it's beneficial, let's definitely do
[33:29] that and share it out. But, it was a
combination of uh law enforcement, code
[33:34] enforcement, public works, and uh I
think fire as well that had kind of
[33:39] included info there uh and harbor. So,
um and then, um finally, I got the phone
[33:47] calls, I don't know if anybody else did,
regarding the gunshots that happened in
[33:51] Falls Canyon. And um just wanted to ask
um part of the response that I'd
[33:56] received back was that um neither one of
the callers asked for someone to come
[34:01] and investigate so they didn't. And I'm
wondering if that can be part of the
[34:04] discussion post investigation. Um that
that be standard when there's gunshots
[34:11] because that's not common here and it's
not a normal occurrence. They should be
[34:14] investigated automatically
the end of discussion for that I think.
[34:19] So, um, if we can have that be part of
the discussion, that would be much
[34:23] appreciated.
>> Sure. And just to follow up again, my
[34:25] conversation with Captain King, he he
says, you know, he was not able to be
[34:28] here tonight for other personal reasons,
but he is going to report out to council
[34:32] fully uh hopefully by the next meeting
of of what he has discovered and what
[34:37] they did.
>> I appreciate that. Yeah.
[34:39] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Um, I've staged, but it's going to
[34:43] be in city hall chambers. So, if anybody
wants to see what a Southern California
[34:48] Association of Government meeting is
like, I can meet you up here at 9:30. I
[34:52] just
>> When's that?
[34:53] » Thursday.
>> Thursday. Okay.
[34:54] » I just do it on the phone because I
don't know how to do all the other
[34:57] stuff, but um but I'm sure they'd set us
up if you were here or you could set it
[35:02] up. Um and I'm wondering about the
we've I don't know when we imple Well,
[35:08] we set up for the residential inspection
program. So if people call wanted to
[35:12] call and had inadequacies in their home
that we could um investigate those but I
[35:17] know there's a lot of um I don't know
how far we got on that. For example, if
[35:23] I call my house is I don't have heat and
I don't have a refrigerator and whatever
[35:30] or you know got holes in my walls. what
we do if all of a sudden the people have
[35:35] to be relocated, you know, and and I
don't think that we got that much of the
[35:40] program
set up, but I would like us to do that.
[35:44] And and maybe because I know the
gentlemen that come to do the
[35:48] inspections are willing to do that, but
there's that whole thing if all of a
[35:53] sudden you have to move out of your
house, where do [clears throat] we put
[35:55] them? Who pays for that? Then you go
back in.
[35:59] » Can they up your rents? All of that. I
think we should begin looking into
[36:03] » Mayor, we we did do one uh in August. We
we did do one at the renters's request,
[36:08] went in there, did a full inspection. Um
the renderer did indicate there is a
[36:13] fear of retaliation, but once code was
in there, uh wrote it up. They did
[36:17] follow up and are pursuing it with the
landlord because once they see it, they
[36:21] can't unsee it. Um but it was one that
did not require um
[36:27] » evacuation [clears throat]
of the premises. But that is a concern
[36:30] every time we go in that we have to do
that to protect the tenants. Um but we
[36:35] are we are following up with the calls
that we get on that they they are doing
[36:39] that.
>> I don't know how much we want to really
[36:41] put it out there that we have that
program because I don't think the
[36:44] community even knows really about it.
But
[36:47] » okay,
>> that's okay. Let's go. Do you want this
[36:51] before we do public comments?
>> Sure. Because you're anxious.
[36:59] » We do have a proclamation this evening.
A proclamation of the city council of
[37:03] the city of Avalon recognizing September
2026 as childhood cancer awareness
[37:09] month. Whereas childhood cancer
awareness month is observed each
[37:13] September to recognize the strength,
courage, and resilience of children and
[37:18] adolesccents battling cancer while
honoring the families, caregivers,
[37:23] health care professionals, and
researchers dedicated to supporting
[37:26] them. And whereas according to the
cancer American Cancer Society, an
[37:31] estimated 9,550
children in the United States under the
[37:35] age of 15 and approximately 5,100
adolescents ages 15 to 19 will be
[37:42] diagnosed with cancer each year. While
the World Health Organization estimates
[37:46] that nearly 400,000 children and
adolesccents worldwide develop cancer
[37:51] annually. And whereas despite advances
in treatment, cancer remains one of the
[37:57] leading causes of disease related death
among children. And many survivors
[38:01] experience lifelong physical, emotional,
and financial challenges resulting from
[38:07] their diagnosis and treatment. And
whereas nearly three decades ago, Steven
[38:12] Firestein, a member of the philanthropic
Max Factor family, founded the American
[38:17] Cancer Fund for Children, Inc. and Kids
Cancer Connection, Inc. in association
[38:22] with Lions Clubs International to
provide hope, encouragement, and
[38:27] meaningful support to children battling
cancer and their families. And whereas
[38:32] the American Cancer Fund for Children
and Kids Cancer Connection provide vital
[38:37] psycho psych sociological services at
hospitals throughout Southern California
[38:42] and across the nation including
Children's Hospital Los Angeles, City of
[38:47] Hope, Mattel's Children Hospital at
UCLA, LA General Medical Center, Harbor
[38:53] UCLA Medical Center, Cedar Cyani Medical
Center, and many others helping improve
[38:58] the quality of life for children
undergoing treatment and their loved
[39:02] ones. And whereas these organizations
also sponsor programs that bring
[39:08] comfort, joy, and encouragement to
children through toy distributions,
[39:13] educational opportunities, sailing exper
experiences, pet assisted therapy, the
[39:19] KCC supercar experience, hospital
celebrations, and other activities that
[39:25] recognize extraordinary bravery and
determination of children facing
[39:29] childhood cancer.
Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the
[39:34] mayor and city council of the city of
Avalon do hereby proclaim September 2026
[39:39] as childhood cancer awareness month in
the city of Avalon, and encourage all
[39:44] residents to increase awareness, support
children and families affected by
[39:49] childhood cancer, promote continued
research, and recognize the
[39:53] organizations and indiv individuals
working tirelessly to improve outcomes
[39:58] and bring hope to those facing facing
this disease dated this first day of
[40:03] September 2026.
>> Thank you.
[40:07] » We have two presentations. Catalina
Island Health.
[40:15] [cough]
[40:19] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Gail
from Catalina Island Health. Uh just a
[40:23] quick update, but before I start, Yenya,
if you think that medical assistants
[40:27] count as trades, I think we should talk.
So, just uh setting that
[40:32] » little seed there. Um just wanted to
share super exciting news. If you have
[40:36] not seen last week's paper, we put out
the um good news of raising $5.1 million
[40:42] for the new hospital during our Catalina
event uh earlier in August. And um that
[40:48] reminding to everybody all for the new
hospital, not for regular daily
[40:52] operations, but it's getting us a lot
closer. And we feel a lot of great
[40:55] momentum coming out of that event. So,
um, we're feeling like a lot of people
[40:59] were telling us like, "Oh, like we
really think it's going to happen and we
[41:01] know it's going to happen." So, u, we
just wanted to make sure everybody saw
[41:05] that. And if there's ever any questions
about that, let us know. Um, other good
[41:09] news, um, we've been working, we've been
saying for a while that we've been, um,
[41:13] renegotiating our payer contracts. And
so we have um HealthNet, Blue Cross, and
[41:18] Blue Shield as of starting October 1st
and between October 1st and November 1st
[41:23] between the three of them, we'll be able
to take all of the plans within those
[41:28] and payer insurance. So like the city,
for example, I know has Blue Shield and
[41:32] we've taken the PO but not the HMO and
stuff like that. So now we'll be able to
[41:37] take all of those plans. Um with those,
we still have a few other payer
[41:41] contracts that we're working on, but
those are super exciting. We've been
[41:44] working on that for a long time. So,
we're hopeful that many of you can now
[41:48] come to the clinic and the hospital
without having to worry about going over
[41:52] town. So, uh that will more information
will be coming about that too, just so
[41:56] we know when we know the exact dates. Uh
and then just a followup from last
[42:01] presentation. Um it had come up about
our board of directors. So, we just
[42:06] wanted to just give a brief overview of
who sits on our board, not specific
[42:10] people, but just like experience and and
um what they do. So, um a lot of uh de
[42:17] decades uh of Islanders. Uh so, we have
a retail jewelry store owner uh teacher
[42:24] uh and a subteer uh a retired um a
retired restaurant owner. Um we have an
[42:32] emergency physician who is off island
but he is like the head of uh five
[42:36] different uh emergency rooms uh with
UCI. Uh so uh brings that knowledge to
[42:42] it. We have a retired judge and attorney
CPA uh also an islander, a hotel manager
[42:49] who is an islander um and then uh living
on the island but a current uh
[42:54] practicing physician. So u gets the
everyday family practice. So brings that
[42:59] um knowledge to our uh board and then
also uh the a retired healthcare CEO. So
[43:06] um that is off island but also lots of
good connections and knowledge of just
[43:12] healthcare in the state of California
and locally in more LA County. So um the
[43:17] makeup of our board just as it stands
right now. Um so just so people have
[43:22] that in mind of who we who who's there
representing um but also you know
[43:27] further conversation whenever that comes
up. And then um just another uh up on
[43:32] the screen you'll see uh we have the
mammogram mobile unit coming um
[43:36] September 12th 13th 14th. So I know it's
that rigor we've already that will be no
[43:41] problem. We've already dealt with that.
So everybody's okay and we'll be able to
[43:46] work together on that uh during that one
day. Um, but it will be all day
[43:50] Saturday, Sunday, so 9:00 to 5:00. Um,
and then, uh, we were able to add this
[43:55] year Monday morning, so 9 to noon
because we don't have to take the unit
[44:00] back to the barge until the afternoon.
So, um, hopefully we can get even more.
[44:03] Last year we screened 79 local ladies
and so we hope to get even more. And,
[44:09] um, just wanted to throw out a huge
thank you to Avalon Freight Services for
[44:12] donating the barge fees to bring that
over and back. and then also Rotary Club
[44:16] of Avalon for helping to um work on our
or cover our hotel costs for the Tex and
[44:21] the boats for the text. So, um it really
makes it a major um event for the island
[44:27] and we're super excited. Um and then uh
just that's we're we're there. We're
[44:33] we're here for questions. We'd like
anybody has any questions, we're happy
[44:36] to meet with anybody, tour them through
the hospital, whatever it is, we're
[44:40] there. So, please reach out.
Well, I I made a comment today at the
[44:43] exercise class that men also get breast
cancer.
[44:47] » That's true. Yeah.
>> And so I don't know what is symptom. I
[44:52] don't want all the men in town running
to get their boobs squished, but if they
[44:56] uh I So it might be interesting for
somebody to look to look that up to see
[45:01] who is who is a candidate who's a male
candidate for breast cancer.
[45:05] » Yeah, I mean we can put that out there.
I would assume it's like most um anybody
[45:10] who's like under 40 needs a doctor's
note and extra meets special criteria.
[45:14] So I would assume for a male that would
there would be special criteria and
[45:18] indefinitely doctor's note for them to
actually do that screening for them. But
[45:22] I can find out what that is and share
that in the paper. So
[45:25] » I just thought it was interesting.
>> Yeah.
[45:26] » Okay. Thank you.
>> It's true. It does happen.
[45:28] » Unfortunately,
>> can I ask have we found a spot for the
[45:31] hospital yet?
>> We're close. um we have to do some
[45:35] ecological um or environmental studies
um that that those will that will
[45:40] determine if we can use the space that
we would like to use. So we're we're not
[45:44] don't have that answer yet, but we're
closer than we've been for a long time.
[45:48] So we're getting there. We'll let you
know.
[45:50] » Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[45:53] » Thank you.
>> Okay, Mr. Troopa, Catalina Film
[45:58] Festival.
[46:02] » [cough]
[46:05] » Thank you, uh, council members and m
Miss Madame Mayor. It's good to see you
[46:11] back, Dave.
>> Yeah, man. Um, you guys are obviously
[46:16] the meat and potatoes. It's amazing. You
got that $60,000 for those kids. I mean,
[46:21] that's crazy. Mammograms. We are the
sizzle and promotion of the island, and
[46:26] we make no mistake about it. Um, the
festival is less than a month away.
[46:31] Travel, lodging, vendors, and production
commitments are already happening. CFF
[46:36] is a destination event. No surprise to
anyone here. People come to Avalon
[46:42] specifically because the festival
exists. The impact equals hotel rooms
[46:46] and ferry tickets and restaurants and
retail and local vendors and workers and
[46:51] media and repeat visitors. Catalina is
expensive to attend. [laughter]
[46:59] Um CFF and local partners repeatedly
discount and absorb costs to make
[47:04] attendance possible. We have amazing
partners that uh make that happen every
[47:09] year. Discounts do not erase costs. They
shift them to the nonprofit or the
[47:15] filmmakers, the visitors and Avalon
businesses. The goal is to discount
[47:21] less, comp less, and pay Avalon
businesses closer to the full value of
[47:26] their work. We are not asking for
entitlement or special treatment, but we
[47:32] are asking for partnership tied with
measurable public benefit and
[47:37] transparency.
Tonight's ask is just help us maximize
[47:41] this year's festival. Uh we have some
great things going on. Uh, we have
[47:46] continued city promotion and LED screen
support that David Hart's got, which is
[47:52] really exciting and fascinating. I know
we're excited to use it. Um, vis visible
[47:57] city welcomes and film for the
filmmakers and the guests. I know every
[48:01] year we kind of see what we can do with
the mold is welcome to Avlon, welcome
[48:06] Catalina filmmakers. Any of that stuff
would be huge. Um, if we can get around
[48:10] the whole if we do it for you, we have
to do it for everybody. it would just
[48:14] make a better impact on who's getting
off those boats when they see stuff like
[48:18] that. Fast coordination through David
Hart and um city related needs. Uh he's
[48:24] always amazing. He helps us in any way
he can. Um and we appreciate him so much
[48:29] for that. Um if we could identify any
remaining inind logistical or tourism
[48:35] resources that we could help benefit
some of these filmmakers that are coming
[48:40] on their own dime from all over the
world. I think we have 35 countries
[48:45] represented this year. We've picked over
49
[48:48] films. Uh 200 of those are online.
Obviously, there's a lot of short films
[48:53] involved. So, we're not talking about
feature films that are 409 films. Um but
[48:57] we have a lot of excited people. Friday
night, we have Katherine Hardwick's West
[49:02] Coast premiere of her film called Street
Smart. Katherine Hardwick is the
[49:06] director of all the um Twilight series
of Robert Patson and and uh and um
[49:13] what's her name? Kristen Stewart. And
she's she's she's had an amazing career.
[49:17] We're going to give her a career
tribute. She's bringing about 40 people
[49:20] just from her film alone who are
coordinating hotels and boats and all of
[49:24] that fun stuff right now. Saturday
night, the producer of that film, um
[49:29] there's a there's a people from
Yellowstone that are in that film.
[49:34] There's a bunch of celebrities that
they're all coming. This independent
[49:37] producer pretty much bought out the
Blanco Hotel to put up all of his
[49:41] filmmakers, all of his talent. Didn't
ask anything of the festival. If
[49:46] anything, he's also sponsoring the
festival just because he understands
[49:49] logistics and uh it's just going to be
an amazing sort of event this year. So,
[49:54] we are excited about that as well.
um
[49:59] the visible
uh let's see identify the kind after the
[50:06] festival we are going to reconvene we're
going to bring all of our current data
[50:10] we're going to bring our disc we're
going to discuss our our our metrics and
[50:14] based on the event support system that
we can do to continue a stronger
[50:17] partnership in the future. Uh the goal
here really is you know when the
[50:23] nonprofit carries the full cost of
creating a public tourism benefit the
[50:27] cost does not disappear. It just gets
shifted somewhere else. So we are trying
[50:32] to eliminate that because you know
partnerships it's not charity. It helps
[50:37] turn events and and into room nights and
local spending and tax revenue and
[50:42] repeat visitation. Uh but we do not
measure partnership by what it gives to
[50:48] CFF. we measure uh by what CFF can then
give back to Avalon. So public tourism
[50:55] um should follow measurable public
benefit. And obviously everybody in this
[51:00] room in so many ways has helped us
throughout the years. It's like you know
[51:04] so many beautiful faces out there that
have helped from from Val to Dave to you
[51:10] know Mark Task. How many hours did we
spend in that projection booth together?
[51:14] Um Mr. Pon and Marsh. I mean like look
this is a community event and there is
[51:21] nothing more than we love to come to
this island show it off to the world. Um
[51:26] we have I think 25 people that are
coming on a Thursday night just to get
[51:31] ready for Friday morning. So we try to
track all this data. Um we are still
[51:36] trying to sell out Friday although
there's no more boats until after 8:30.
[51:40] So we're that's another thing we're
trying to work with Amanda and the
[51:43] Catalina Express. It's El Nino. It could
rain. So we understand their their
[51:47] issues. So we're just trying to figure
out and navigate this the best we can
[51:51] and have an amazing year 17. So that's
why we're coming back after the festival
[51:55] with all the beautiful data that we will
have for you moving forward.
[52:00] » I I um maybe SA can help with this one.
I feel really bad that the youth and a
[52:08] lot of the other people that live here
don't take advantage of this festival
[52:11] and I don't know how to get them turned
on to to want to come. I mean, it's
[52:18] » Yeah,
>> it's it's fabulous. So, if you have any
[52:21] ideas how we can really get the kids
involved in their participation and
[52:25] coming with their parents and
>> Saturday morning in the Lancer
[52:29] Auditorium at the school, we have a
familyfriendly feature film. It's called
[52:34] Bob's Best Friends and it has a bunch of
celebrity uh voices for all these dogs
[52:40] that are in the film. Um so we're
basically calling all cars for Avalon
[52:45] families to come. That's a free event.
>> We've already talked to the filmmaker.
[52:49] He's excited to offer that as well. We
have a lot of cool familyoriented films
[52:54] this year because we even created a
family category. So we uh we're trying
[52:58] to program more because our animation
category technically isn't cartoons.
[53:02] Right.
>> There could be a lot of anything in
[53:05] animation. So, um, we we are trying to
develop more familyfriendly events as
[53:10] well. And we're trying to do it on the
weekends.
[53:12] » Yes. Yes.
>> So, that's good.
[53:14] » You know, the more people can find out
about that, I don't know how we can
[53:18] reach them more, but that would be
amazing.
[53:20] » Yes. Okay.
>> Well, thank you.
[53:24] » Thank you.
[53:30] » Okay. Oral communications. This is an
opportunity for the public to speak on
[53:34] items that are not on the agenda. You
will be limited to two minutes and no
[53:39] action will be taken.
[53:47] » Hello there, Paul Burchaw, Avalon
Library. Uh, a couple small things
[53:51] first. Um, the the uh art fair is coming
up and uh the friends of the library are
[53:58] going to have a book table sale as
always. Donate your books. If you have
[54:01] books piling up that you just can't
stand, bring them on down to the
[54:05] library. Uh, bring them to Judy's house.
I'm not going to say the address. That's
[54:09] for her. He's supposed [laughter] to do,
but uh, the library is available. Just
[54:12] drop them off with me. Uh, if we're
closed, put them in the book return bin.
[54:16] I'll s some out in the morning. Uh, so
yeah, please come and give us lots of
[54:19] books for the book sale. Uh, a few
things you might not know. During this
[54:23] heatwave, the library was a beautiful
cooling center. We had the best air
[54:28] conditioning. Oh my goodness, it was
awesome. So, another heat wave coming in
[54:32] about a week, I think. Come on down to
the library. Hang out with us. Read a
[54:36] book. Nobody's going to, you know,
screech at you except maybe some kids.
[54:40] But, you know, it'll be lovely and just
hang out in your beautiful library. Um,
[54:44] just other stuff. The bookmark contest,
our annual bookmark contest is starting
[54:48] up now. Come on down. Uh, create a
lovely bookmark. I may be imposing on
[54:53] council and the friends of the library
to help judge that thing uh probably in
[54:58] November if we get enough people. Um
some of my events coming up, this is an
[55:03] awesome month at the library. We have
the Barnsdale Arts Center doing an arts
[55:08] class that's going to be on Thursday,
September 10th. Uh beautiful, they do
[55:13] beautiful stuff, hands-on art. Kids are
welcome. Everybody's welcome if you have
[55:18] an aesthetic sense. Coming up on the
16th, we're going to have a magician,
[55:22] Arty Lon. He's been to the library a
bunch of times. He is just delightful.
[55:26] He does like floating tables and magic
wands that get huge. He's amazing. Um,
[55:32] and our usual stuff as well, crafts on
Tuesdays and Fridays. My story time.
[55:37] every Saturday. Um, just to encourage
people to enter the bookmark contest on
[55:43] the 24th, I'm going to have an ice cream
party where if you want an ice cream,
[55:48] you have to do a bookmark. Uh, and you
know, if you want two ice cream, you got
[55:51] to do two bookmarks. You want three ice
cream, you got to do 30 bookmarks. So,
[55:56] uh, I set up a little, uh, nothing like
a film festival, but I do a little movie
[56:01] thing. I set up a little screen. I have
a little projector, uh, attach it to a
[56:05] laptop. We use Canopy, which is a
program we all have, the library card
[56:09] members have a subscription to. I'm
allowed to show some movies without
[56:13] licenses. So, I'm going to do Animal
Crackers, the old Marks Brothers thing.
[56:18] On the 30th, I'm going to do my let's
face it, my quarterly screening of Monty
[56:23] Python and the Holy Grail. I've done it
like eight times this year. I I have to
[56:27] do what I like at the library sometimes,
too. Um, also, uh, we also subscribe to
[56:32] something called the Alexander Street
Performance. Uh, we're gonna do a
[56:36] screening of Richard III from the Royal
Shakespeare Company. We'll see. I want
[56:40] to get us cultury a little bit, too. I
don't think there's anything wrong with
[56:44] a bit of culture. Um, also, since we
have our our new page hired, he leads
[56:50] Dungeons and Dragons pretty much every
Wednesday at 3 and Saturday at 3. And I
[56:56] have one more program that I can't
really talk about, but I'll talk about
[56:59] it on the uh uh at the next city council
meeting. I think it's kind of cool. Uh,
[57:04] it's a sort of partnership that LA
County Library is doing with someone and
[57:08] I'm not allowed to say it. They will
fire me. They will say, "You are
[57:11] embargoed from talking about it, but I
hinted it like I'm allowed to do." So,
[57:16] thank you very much for your time.
>> Thank you, Paul.
[57:23] » Hello, everyone. Martas 345 Ser 330
Clarissa. A friend of mine phoned me
[57:30] tonight and said [clears throat] that uh
apparently my address 345 is confused
[57:37] with 343 Candace Reman and I need to set
the record straight because this is a
[57:44] public record that uh Candace Rebanov
does not own three, four or five. She
[57:49] owns a trash dump next to me. Thank you.
>> Oh, okay. Thank you.
[57:59] Hi.
>> Long time no see. How you doing?
[58:02] » Good, thank you. Good.
>> Um, I'm here today because I have some
[58:06] questions. Um, with so many golf carts
in Avalon aging out and with many repair
[58:10] parts no longer being available, are
options for purchasing new golf carts is
[58:15] becoming more difficult? With electric
golf carts in the flats and condos that
[58:19] don't have garages? So, I've done some
research and I get different information
[58:24] in all three spots that I researched.
One was the DMB and they specifically
[58:29] mentioned Avalon and an exemption that
we received. Um, there's also Yamaha
[58:35] which is different information and and
then there's the city municipal code
[58:41] which is also different information. So,
I'm here because we just had our cart at
[58:46] Yamaha for four weeks. And so, I'm I was
kneede in this concern that a lot of
[58:52] people have here on the island because,
like I said, golf carts are aging out
[58:57] and repair parts no longer available.
And so, here we are. And I know a lot of
[59:02] talk has been happening about electric
golf carts and a lot of talk has been
[59:06] happening about charging stations. And
in my opinion, that's just not feasible
[59:12] because you've got the majority of the
drivers in this town are golf carts and
[59:18] charging stations. We all know what
happened with Tesla when they came out.
[59:21] It was a nightmare because there still
aren't enough charging stations. So, I'd
[59:27] like to get some clarification as to
where do we stand? Because with the
[59:31] research that I have done, we can still
get gas golf carts. And I spoke to our
[59:38] insurance company before I came here
tonight to find out because they're not
[59:42] making LSV golf carts anymore with VIN
numbers. They used to be manufactured
[59:48] with VIN numbers and they don't do that
anymore. Per the DMV, it has to be in
[59:51] order to be street legal. It has to have
the VIN number. But everything is
[59:56] different. And when I talked to our
insurance agency, they said it either
[1:00:00] has to have a VIN number. I explained
that we have to bring this card up to
[1:00:03] get our city sticker every year. And I
said, "Are we not going to be able to
[1:00:08] get that anymore since a new golf cart
won't have a VIN number?" And they said,
[1:00:12] "As long as it has a VIN number or a
serial number on it and I did I
[1:00:17] researched and of course all vehicles
have a serial number, including every
[1:00:20] single golf cart that's manufactured."
Um, if anyone is interested, our our
[1:00:26] insurance company said that they will
ensure it's foremost. They will ensure
[1:00:31] any golf cart under specialty. they put
it in the category with ebikes and
[1:00:36] things like that. And so I asked them,
does that mean that we can still if we
[1:00:40] buy a gas golf cart from the
manufacturer, can we um park it on the
[1:00:46] street and we drive it legally on the
street? And they said yes. Um so that's
[1:00:52] kind of so you can see all the
information that I re that I've
[1:00:56] researched and it's all different. So, I
wanted to find out get some
[1:00:59] clarification from the city where you
stand with gas golf carts.
[1:01:06] » And you're talking about residential
golf cart, not a commercial.
[1:01:09] » So, right now the city does not have a
requirement for electric residential
[1:01:13] golf carts. You can have a gas golf
cart. We understand that, you know, we
[1:01:18] would love to [clears throat] create
more charging stations. We're going to
[1:01:22] put some in here at city hall and on
Tmont, but we understand that's not
[1:01:26] going to satisfy everybody's needs. So,
you can still have there's no
[1:01:31] prohibition against Gas golf carts.
>> Our requirement for a city sticker is
[1:01:36] just that you're licensed through the
DMV. Now, I know the DMV has either
[1:01:43] issued uh licenses with a serial number
or with a VIN number. Either way,
[1:01:48] they've done it and they continue to do
it that way. We don't require a VIN
[1:01:52] number. We don't require As long as
you're licensed through the DMV when you
[1:01:55] come to get your city sticker, you'll
get your city sticker.
[1:01:58] » Okay, there a problem because I went on
the DMV's website today and it clearly
[1:02:02] states that it has to be an LSV
gas golf cart and it which means it is
[1:02:09] required to have a VIN number.
I I think Debbie would right now the
[1:02:15] state of California says that Yamaha the
corporation Yamaha cannot sell
[1:02:21] a Yamaha golf cart to Mike King down at
Catalina Yamaha. I've talked to Dave
[1:02:28] Maestro about an exemption like we do
for smog. We just go to um one of our
[1:02:35] legislature or in fact I don't even
think we have to do that. Bud Smith just
[1:02:40] talked to somebody and we got exempt
from smog. We need to get exempt from
[1:02:46] California saying
we can't purchase a gas golf cart.
[1:02:53] And once we do that and Yamaha gets on
board, then Yamaha will sell golf gas
[1:03:00] golf carts to Mike King and we can
purchase gas golf carts because I'm with
[1:03:05] you. Most people don't want electric
golf cart. Yeah, we don't have anywhere
[1:03:09] to plug it in, but that's where we're
kind of at,
[1:03:12] » right? And we But I I I don't know that
that solves the last issue she brought
[1:03:17] up, which is it the VIN number.
>> They don't have VIN numbers. They have
[1:03:21] serial numbers. When I worked at the
courthouse, they had the sheriff's
[1:03:24] underneath looking. They do have a
serial number and you can register that.
[1:03:30] Uh San Pedro DMV knows all about that
kind of stuff. So,
[1:03:33] » and that's true.
>> If you buy something from
[1:03:37] I don't know how the easygo gals carts
got over here, but I I know if you
[1:03:43] wouldn't buy something in Arizona or
Nevada,
[1:03:47] you can bring it in and I would go to
San Pedro with all your paperwork
[1:03:53] picture of it. You don't even have to
take the golf cart in there. They're
[1:03:56] real good about
>> Okay. I'm just I'm just concerned
[1:04:00] because it did state as of today that
they require a VIN number. The DMV does.
[1:04:07] They use the serial number on most of
them. They don't even have VIN numbers.
[1:04:11] Maybe some of the new companies like
there's a bunch of new electric
[1:04:14] companies that you see even driving on
the mainland. I don't know if you ever
[1:04:19] cruise through like Lagouna and all
those places, Huntington Beach. But if
[1:04:24] you buy a gas golf cart and you bring it
here, it DMV and San Pedro will help
[1:04:31] you. even Long Beach.
>> One question I had was, do you require
[1:04:36] if So, does a city only require that we
have insurance?
[1:04:41] » Um,
>> they don't even require that.
[1:04:43] » And the DMV part Well, we have to have
we have to bring something in in order
[1:04:47] to get our Well, in order to get our
city sticker every year, we have to
[1:04:50] bring something.
>> You have to be registered with the DMV
[1:04:54] » and they require insurance. So maybe the
city council could look into that
[1:04:58] because um I found different
information. So if you guys could look
[1:05:03] into it and clarify for the community
because I do know people who are looking
[1:05:08] for golf carts and there are people who
are desperately looking for gas golfart
[1:05:12] golf carts and so if we could bring in
new golf carts. I think the community
[1:05:17] needs to know that
>> and and I I can tell you that we have
[1:05:20] had golf carts that have been registered
this season, this this last March season
[1:05:25] with the DMV with serial numbers.
>> Yes. But were they new golf carts?
[1:05:31] » New?
>> Yeah, brand new. Like if someone wants
[1:05:33] to go buy a brand new golf cart, if they
like ours is 10 years old,
[1:05:36] » right?
>> So we don't have that problem, you know,
[1:05:38] we have we bring it, you know, we have
the register with the DMV. However, if
[1:05:43] someone wants to go out and buy a brand
new golf cart, which I know several
[1:05:47] people who do, um, they want a gas golf
cart and they want a new golf cart, can
[1:05:52] they bring it to the island, can they
get a city sticker because it won't be
[1:05:56] registered with the DMV? Most likely.
So, all I'm asking if the city could
[1:06:00] look into it and really clarify because
I think that's information that the city
[1:06:04] that the people within the community
need to have.
[1:06:08] We'll we'll definitely we'll definitely
look into that and talk to our folks at
[1:06:11] the DMV. We always go through the San
Pedro office because they get most of
[1:06:15] our residents. Yeah.
>> And see if that has changed in the last
[1:06:19] six months because
>> And then how do they go about it? So you
[1:06:22] can give give them concrete information
about how they can go about it.
[1:06:27] » Yeah, we we will we will make those
calls and look into that for you. Yeah,
[1:06:31] absolutely.
>> Okay, thank you. Nice to see you.
[1:06:35] Anybody else? Oral communication.
[1:06:42] Hi, Janney Hall 334 Clarissa.
Uh, why do we want gas golf carts so
[1:06:51] much?
>> Because we don't like electric. And why
[1:06:54] [laughter] is that? I thought we were
going that direction.
[1:06:58] » I think each different.
>> Do you have a spot to plug yours in on
[1:07:03] your street? Well, I would put a I would
put a
[1:07:06] » So, you dig a hole and put the
>> And I don't know if that's been explored
[1:07:12] or
something to that effect. Just that
[1:07:17] uh they sure gas golf carts are really
loud and I can't
[1:07:23] » I think the easy goes are. I think the
Yamahas aren't. And I think what you're
[1:07:27] hearing now are the easy goes from the
rental car place because I've had a
[1:07:32] couple people call me. In fact, I went
up to somebody's house and sat one day
[1:07:36] and listened and it was the easy goes.
>> Yeah. And they're gas.
[1:07:40] » Okay. This is oral communication, so
it's not it's typically not a this and
[1:07:43] that kind of a conversation. I hear you
saying that you're in support of
[1:07:48] electric vehicles, electric golf. Golf
carts as am I. But uh so we want to
[1:07:55] address this in the future or
>> Yeah. Look at options.
[1:07:59] » Right. Exactly.
>> Not just and Yeah. And there are ways to
[1:08:03] get into the curb cuts and do exactly
what you're saying.
[1:08:05] » Oh, okay. Thank you.
>> Anybody else?
[1:08:15] » Hello. Uh Diane Stone, 385 East Whitley.
Um I am here to talk to the council and
[1:08:24] the city manager and our city attorney.
Um, I have the most respect for your
[1:08:32] conscientious
uh position as stewards of this
[1:08:35] community. However, I'm here to lodge a
complaint on behalf of other members of
[1:08:40] this community uh regarding our
sheriff's department. Um,
[1:08:47] because the sheriff's department is
under contract to the city, they are
[1:08:51] accountable to you.
I believe we deserve and demand more
[1:08:57] accountability, more service and more
respect.
[1:09:02] Um this year we all are aware that the
uh conservancy has received um uh the
[1:09:11] go-ahead from fish and wildlife to go
ahead and begin exterminating the deer.
[1:09:16] Uh this was supposedly happening um
September 1. Uh however, there has been
[1:09:23] gunfire and there has been uh shooting
that has been going on before this.
[1:09:28] Obviously, they're in training or
practicing or whatever. Um I bring that
[1:09:34] up because
it has people on edge. People are
[1:09:39] concerned.
And Friday night, uh August 21st,
[1:09:46] there was a call that went into the
sheriff's station. several calls. Others
[1:09:51] would have called, but they knew the
calls had already been been made.
[1:09:55] Starting at about 10:25,
and it went on for almost 3 hours. Um,
[1:10:02] there were 19 shots
recorded.
[1:10:08] And I will not go into detail about
what came of all of this
[1:10:14] misunderstanding, miscommunication,
whatever. The point is there were people
[1:10:20] who felt that their lives were in
jeopardy. They actually took refuge in
[1:10:26] their homes where they felt they would
be the safest.
[1:10:32] [clears throat]
[1:10:35] My complaint is that no one from the
sheriff's department went out to speak
[1:10:42] to anyone. They did not call back. They
did not follow up.
[1:10:47] to this date they have not done so that
is really unconscionable.
[1:10:55] So
that's my complaint on behalf of others
[1:10:59] in this community. The other thing I
just want to mention is that I would ask
[1:11:04] our captain to speak to his deputies to
remind them to use a little more
[1:11:09] discretion when they are discussing this
community using derogatory
[1:11:15] remarks about our community and our
residents. Do not dismiss us. Do not
[1:11:22] underestimate us. You don't know our
education, our history, our knowledge,
[1:11:27] our experience, positions we have held.
This is an amazing group of citizens in
[1:11:33] this community and we should not be
underestimated.
[1:11:38] » That's it.
>> Appreciate your comments.
[1:11:40] » Thank you.
>> [applause]
[1:11:52] » Marian council. Uh Daniel Phelps
Catalina Cravings. Uh just wanted to
[1:11:57] come up and make sure the community was
aware. Uh we have been doing catalytic
[1:12:02] cravings for several months now and we
identified that the majority of uh our
[1:12:07] repeat customers are either elderly or
people with mobility issues. So with
[1:12:13] that information, we went to Dave Hart
and we got him set up with a promo code
[1:12:19] for the recreation department. So
anybody that's enrolled in the Meals on
[1:12:23] Wheels program uh can get free grocery
delivery through the app. And it's not
[1:12:28] just uh groceries like toilet paper, cat
food, any kind of essentials. Pretty
[1:12:32] much anything you can pick up at VNS
will be delivered through the app free
[1:12:36] of charge for anybody enrolled in the
meals on wheels program. Just wanted to
[1:12:39] make sure everybody knew.
>> I'm sorry I kind of missed the first of
[1:12:41] that, Daniel. So it would be stuff that
we have in the food bank that you would
[1:12:45] pick that up.
>> No, not at all.
[1:12:47] » No,
>> they're going to do deliveries for
[1:12:51] » people that would be on meals for wills.
>> Yes. So we have a app based food. this
[1:12:56] would uh be on top of that. So, it's
like an added service to that. So, now
[1:13:01] let's say somebody wanted to get their
meals on wheels delivered. They have
[1:13:04] that, but oh, they forgot toilet paper,
paper towels, napkins. Now, they have
[1:13:09] the ability to go on the app, you know,
pay for it and it gets delivered to
[1:13:12] their house.
>> Awesome.
[1:13:14] » Thank you. That's very nice.
[1:13:20] » Okay. Anybody else?
[1:13:25] Consent
calendar.
[1:13:28] » Okay. Consent calendar. Item one,
approval of the minutes from the August
[1:13:32] 12th, 2026 special city council meeting
and the August 18th, 2026 regular city
[1:13:37] council meeting. Item two, approval of
dispersements for August 10th, 2026
[1:13:42] through August 21st, 2026, totaling
$2,538,25844.
[1:13:49] Item three, authorize the city manager
or his designate to circulate a request
[1:13:54] for proposal for qualified vendors to
lease the former public transit kiosk on
[1:13:59] Crescent Avenue. Item four, adopt an
ordinance amending chapter 9-5, article
[1:14:05] 6, accessory dwelling units of title 9
of the Avalon Municipal Code to comply
[1:14:10] with the recent changes to state law
that impose new limits on local
[1:14:14] authority to regulate accessory dwelling
units and junior accessory dwelling
[1:14:18] units except as otherwise noted these
new laws take effect on January 1st,
[1:14:23] 2026.
>> Okay, council.
[1:14:28] » I just have a question about the kiosk.
Yes.
[1:14:30] » Um,
>> what would the rent be? How do we figure
[1:14:34] out what they would pay for that?
>> Um, what what we designate is we're
[1:14:38] we're looking at designating a minimum
mandatory rent of $500 a month on that
[1:14:42] space and really opening up to the
public. Bring bring your best ideas.
[1:14:48] » Okay, that's all right. Okay. What's
your pleasure, council?
[1:14:52] » I'll make a motion to approve items one
through four on the consent calendar.
[1:14:56] I'll
>> second. Moved and seconded. Call for the
[1:14:58] vote.
[1:15:05] All eyes.
>> Okay. Thank you. General business.
[1:15:10] » General business. Item number five uh is
a uh a letter regarding forthcoming
[1:15:16] wildfire liability reform. Um this came
in uh last week uh at the request of
[1:15:23] Councilwoman Lavell. Um, I would point
out that on Saturday there was uh some
[1:15:29] emergency legislation that passed that
made um this much more palatable, I
[1:15:34] guess. So I I I don't know, you know,
the the uh California League of Cities,
[1:15:39] I I believe had sent out um kind of
where uh we're at now, which is uh the
[1:15:46] most um or the worst part of the
original legislation has been removed.
[1:15:52] So what was passed s Saturday last
Saturday morning is it does not include
[1:15:57] any limits on public agency recovery
after a utility caused fire which was
[1:16:01] the biggest uh heartburn I think that
was in that. So um I don't know if
[1:16:06] there's any other discussion on that or
where we want to go with this now.
[1:16:09] » Yeah.
>> Can we just make a recommendation that
[1:16:12] should that all fall apart
that we do kind of
[1:16:17] » stick to our guns on it?
>> Yeah.
[1:16:18] » Yeah.
>> I think we should. So, if the bill was
[1:16:22] to regress to the way that it was prior
to the changes from this weekend, um
[1:16:26] that we would still be not in support of
that passing the way that it is. Um but
[1:16:30] that was the largest part was it
basically did not allow cities or public
[1:16:35] entities to be able to have any
[laughter] kind of recourse for damages
[1:16:40] due to wildfire emergencies. So, um I
don't know if there's a way to craft
[1:16:45] craft something that would basically say
that that we're in support of the
[1:16:49] changes that have been made. Um but
should it regress, then we would be
[1:16:52] happy to add our name to the long list
of supporters.
[1:16:55] » Yeah, that sounds good.
>> Did I think there's going to be another
[1:16:58] uh standard support letter coming, so I
I think we would be in line with that.
[1:17:03] So, if we could follow what they put out
there.
[1:17:04] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:17:06] » Yeah,
>> sounds good.
[1:17:07] » Thank you.
>> Way easier than I thought it was going
[1:17:10] to be.
Item number six.
[1:17:13] » So, did we need to have a vote on that
item?
[1:17:16] » Need a vote for the that request,
>> Scott. Would a consensus be okay?
[1:17:23] Um, you I I would I would prefer that we
have a uh vote to give direction uh to
[1:17:30] uh support any uh letter that encourages
passage of the liability act with
[1:17:40] protections for cities.
>> I so move.
[1:17:44] » I'll second.
[1:17:50] » All eyes.
Item number six. So item number six is a
[1:17:56] u
a proposal for a c or request for CPU
[1:18:01] draft or addressing the CPU draft
resolution T-17934.
[1:18:07] So, um, as council and most of the
community is aware, uh, last December,
[1:18:14] December 2025, the California Public
Utilities Commission passed a resolution
[1:18:20] that essentially did two things. It
recognized the need for a project that
[1:18:26] included Avalon and Catalina Island, and
that is to bring undersea fiber here. Uh
[1:18:31] the second thing it did is it awarded
that grant for that project to AVX
[1:18:36] networks. Um the city supported that
project uh both with letters of support
[1:18:42] going into it and and throughout and for
years. I know uh Councilwoman Lavell and
[1:18:48] and others have really um been on this
uh crusade to get this undersea fiber
[1:18:55] here. And and I think the city
recognized then the city recognizes now
[1:19:01] that uh we we sit in in a different
place here. We're not we're not in a
[1:19:07] rural community down the street from a
city that has um you know highspeed
[1:19:12] internet. We are we are separated by a
body of water that it can only be
[1:19:16] brought here one way. Um and and that
step last December was a was a
[1:19:22] tremendous step for that project. uh
once that project and that grant was
[1:19:26] awarded the city um you know the the
interaction was between the PUC and the
[1:19:33] grantee and the and we have not had much
interaction as it related to that. Um it
[1:19:39] was brought to the city's attention on
August 6, 2026
[1:19:44] um that the the CPU and the division of
um communications division prepared a
[1:19:52] draft resolution and that draft
resolution proposed to resend and
[1:19:57] terminate that $37 million grant that
was awarded in December of 2025.
[1:20:03] Um,
at the time we found out about this in
[1:20:06] August of 2026,
uh, that draft resolution referenced
[1:20:11] letters and correspondence and other
things between the PUC and the grant
[1:20:15] recipient that the city wasn't a party.
So that was the first time we became
[1:20:19] aware of of that. Um, I would say having
read all of that, um, and and and
[1:20:26] recognizing that the PUC the PUC
acknowledge the importance of this
[1:20:31] project that the city take a position
regarding this hearing because that
[1:20:35] draft resolution is before the CPU on
September on a hearing on September
[1:20:40] 17th. they can adopt that draft
resolution which would as written uh
[1:20:46] resend this grant and the money for that
project would no longer be designated
[1:20:51] for that project or they can amend it or
they can work it out with the grant
[1:20:55] recipient. Um when we look at the
overall uh importance of what we have
[1:21:01] before us, I think that the main factor
is to try to convince the CPU to keep
[1:21:08] those funds designated for Catalina
Island and this project because once
[1:21:13] they're lost, the fear is it's going to
be extremely difficult to get them back.
[1:21:17] Uh and I will acknowledge that AVX did a
tremendous amount of work and did all
[1:21:22] the work in order to get that grant. Um,
but the the issues set forth in the
[1:21:28] draft resolution are between strictly
related between AVX and the CPU. Nowhere
[1:21:34] in there do they recognize that the
project's not a good idea or they you
[1:21:38] know they've determined it's no longer
needed. None of that's in there. It's
[1:21:42] only between the relationship between
AVX and the CPU and that's between them
[1:21:48] and however that and and that's really
the PUC being a steward of those funds
[1:21:51] and however they resolve that is between
them. what what I think and what I
[1:21:58] propose uh that we submit a letter to
the PUC really fighting to maintain
[1:22:02] those funds for this project that if
they determine there's irreconcilable
[1:22:07] differences between them and the current
grant recipient at least keep those
[1:22:12] funds there give them an opportunity for
another uh entity to come in and try to
[1:22:17] build this project and and not lose what
where we're at right now. This is an
[1:22:23] extreme that would be uh an extreme
case, but the reality of it is this
[1:22:29] grant has not even been awarded 12
months ago. And they issued their letter
[1:22:34] terminating this on July 7th. So seven
months in, they've made this decision.
[1:22:39] Uh and if that can't be saved, that
relationship can't be saved. Hopefully
[1:22:44] seven months in won't give them cause to
take these funds away. So, so really uh
[1:22:49] the staff report and the draft letter
that's before you uh focuses on the
[1:22:54] project as compared to any of the
personal entities or any of their
[1:22:58] personal actions. I would say that um
you know they're they're well you know
[1:23:05] they they go into great detail. The PUC
goes into great detail of why they're
[1:23:10] asking what they're asking. Uh but
again, I would reiterate that our
[1:23:16] attached draft letter strongly supports
the need to preserve the funding should
[1:23:20] they decide to terminate the grant
relationship with AVX. And and I think
[1:23:25] that that's the strongest position we
can take right now and open to any
[1:23:30] direction from council on where you want
to go. The only caveat I would give is
[1:23:34] that the letters have to be uh sent by
September 3rd. So we would have to get
[1:23:40] this out quickly.
So, I have a question.
[1:23:43] » Yes.
>> Um, so we got a request to
[1:23:47] not send this letter right now.
>> If let's say we I'm not saying that's
[1:23:54] what I want to do. I'm just saying if
that's what we did and waiting till the
[1:23:58] September 17th meeting,
[1:24:03] what does that do?
Uh if if we if we if we council, okay,
[1:24:10] do not voice our position on this, which
what we're saying is fight for the
[1:24:15] project. If you don't fight for the
project, they won't have that in front
[1:24:18] of them. Okay, the commission, the draft
resolution was not drafted by the
[1:24:22] commission. It was drafted by the
communications division of the PUC. They
[1:24:26] sent it to the commission. Commission
can make changes to it. They can vote no
[1:24:30] on it. They can vote yes on it. So, they
can go a number of different directions
[1:24:34] with it. um they have this period of
time where they're accepting uh comments
[1:24:40] and that's where we're at right now. So,
you know, it's just whether or not
[1:24:43] council wants to be heard on this.
>> Yeah. No, no.
[1:24:47] » Um if I could um if if I could, mayor,
if I could just address that for a
[1:24:52] minute.
>> Sure.
[1:24:54] » Yeah. One of the things that the grant
resolution says is that the proposed
[1:25:00] resolution would terminate the $37
million funding. And then it says the
[1:25:06] unserved locations in the original
project will not be subject to a grant
[1:25:13] commitment and may be eligible for
future rounds of funding. What my
[1:25:20] interpretation of that language is is
when it says the unserved locations in
[1:25:25] the original project will not be subject
to a grant commitment. That means that
[1:25:30] if this resolution is granted that that
$37 million funding goes back into the
[1:25:36] general pool and is not held out for the
unserved location of Avalon.
[1:25:43] » So we could lose all the way
>> based on Okay. I hadn't I didn't read
[1:25:47] that part. So that's cool. Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:25:52] » You want to come in?
>> Sure. Happy to. So
[1:25:58] having worked on this for six years
being very surprised by the fact that I
[1:26:04] received a recision email from the CPU
from Nora who's our government liaison
[1:26:09] for this the PUC on the 6th. And that's
how I we found out about it and I
[1:26:14] forwarded it on to city staff at that
point and to Lanceware. Um,
[1:26:19] we were all surprised by it. He was not
surprised by it. Um, this is something
[1:26:24] that's been ongoing, I guess, and that
had been ongoing for a while.
[1:26:28] My
hope is that he's able to resolve the
[1:26:34] requirements of what they're asking for,
which includes
[1:26:39] um requirements like proof of policies
for nepotism, proof of needs for
[1:26:46] purchasing a home in a vehicle um
underneath this set of funds. um that
[1:26:53] he's able to provide proof that those
are the requirements that he needs or
[1:26:57] he's able to say I don't actually need
those and I can move forward with a
[1:27:00] project without them. Um my
understanding is there's also litigation
[1:27:04] ongoing with them as well and so he
hasn't been able to necessarily speak
[1:27:09] super freely about any of this because
of that with me and so um I don't want
[1:27:14] to have to lose 6 years worth of work. I
don't want to have to um take the chance
[1:27:20] that the PUC says we're rescending this
and we're not going to keep the money
[1:27:25] for the project because I know how long
that hill back up to being able to do
[1:27:29] this project is.
That being said, I also
[1:27:34] um before I had read the exhibits on the
letter, I had emailed directly Lance and
[1:27:41] the city manager and had asked, "How can
we help? What can we do?" and then read
[1:27:46] the exhibits and was quite surprised
because of the use of what the funds
[1:27:51] were being used to purchase. Um, I
think, you know, as often as we're able
[1:27:57] currently to approve price increases and
change orders and new projects and
[1:28:02] things that we've budgeted for,
managing public funds, especially to the
[1:28:07] tune of this much money, is key and
needs to be able to be justified under
[1:28:14] the rules of the grant and just to any
citizen that asks why you're doing what
[1:28:17] you're doing. And I think I feel very
comfortable in the choices that I've
[1:28:21] voted for and approved and said yes to
through the city all this time. And some
[1:28:27] of these to me seem very interesting and
don't fit with the scope of what the
[1:28:32] grant originally may have included. I
can see where the justifications are for
[1:28:37] some of them and I can also see the
opposite side of that. So, I feel like
[1:28:43] in terms of both the integrity of the
city and being able to provide as much
[1:28:48] support as possible, the draft letter
does do that. I like the draft letter. I
[1:28:52] think we should send it. Public comment
closes on the 3. The actual hearings on
[1:28:57] the 17th. I will, by a really weird
stroke of luck be actually up in
[1:29:01] Stockton with the kiddos for that week,
but I won't be able to go to Sacramento
[1:29:05] as I did in December to support this
project and be there for the hearing,
[1:29:09] which was a fun and exciting several
hours with Jim in the audience at that
[1:29:13] hearing in Sacramento. Um, so I am
hopeful that the PUC
[1:29:21] um understands how important this
project is. I'm hopeful that Lance and
[1:29:25] the PUC are able to come to agreement on
what is possible and make that happen.
[1:29:30] Um, but at this time I think the letter
of support is the right thing to do that
[1:29:33] we've that is drafted.
>> Okay.
[1:29:37] » And you had said that you had seen some
a bunch of some other letters that were
[1:29:41] written in support of AVX.
>> So the I'm on the distribution list for
[1:29:47] the PUC for a couple of different grant
applications that I signed up for
[1:29:50] probably four years ago. So, I get
dozens of letters about other people's
[1:29:54] grants all the time. Um, so there have
been a number of community members that
[1:29:59] have signed a letter of response um in
support of this project and in support
[1:30:05] of Lance. Um, I don't think when they
signed those they knew what the scope of
[1:30:09] the questioning was with regard to the
letters that were being included in the
[1:30:14] recision documentation.
Um, and so, you know, definitely
[1:30:19] recognized literally all but I think two
of the names and two of the names were
[1:30:23] entities that I recognized. So, um, you
know, I'm I'm glad that people are
[1:30:27] speaking up and wanting to see the
project done. Um, but I also want to
[1:30:32] make sure that they understand that, you
know, there's
[1:30:36] especially for the city, there's a lot
of responsibility that goes into getting
[1:30:39] grants for things that we do. The city
does an amazing job of tracking and
[1:30:44] being able to show justification and
correspondence and receipts of
[1:30:48] everything that they do. And I don't
know that the general public realizes
[1:30:52] just how much work they have to do to
manage and administer these grants that
[1:30:55] we receive. Um, so I think that's the
challenging part is that this is a
[1:31:00] federal grant. It's using federal public
funds and there's a level of
[1:31:06] responsibility. um to quote one of my
favorite movies with great power comes
[1:31:10] great responsibility. So um you know I
think that um that is something where
[1:31:16] you know even just right now there was
another communication that came through
[1:31:19] while we're sitting here on the dis from
the CPU on this item from I believe
[1:31:23] Lance I don't know what the content said
cuz I haven't opened it yet but um so um
[1:31:28] I know that comments will continue to
flow in and we'll continue to receive
[1:31:31] those um and that's fine. You can
definitely send your letters of support.
[1:31:36] I think that's important um because I
think it is necessary and I think it is
[1:31:41] a project that's worthwhile and I do
know also that Lance has put in a
[1:31:44] significant amount of money um already
into this project of his own. And so,
[1:31:49] you know, the the challenge I just have
is wanting to make sure that we we are
[1:31:54] not the PUC. We're not the one
administering this grant. We
[1:31:57] unfortunately don't have control over
what level of usage that money goes
[1:32:01] towards. But the rules for that grant
were several pages long and very clear.
[1:32:07] Um, in terms of getting, you know,
permission to make purchases, you have
[1:32:12] to have actual support for
reimbursement. You have to do
[1:32:15] pre-approval for larger purchases that
require specific review. Um, and so I
[1:32:21] think that's the part that is um
something that is why we didn't take a
[1:32:25] position. The CPU is managing that part
of the discussion. We're in support of
[1:32:30] this project. We want this project to
happen. I'm hoping that it can be with
[1:32:33] Lance and it can continue forward. Even
if it's not, I'm still in support of
[1:32:37] this project.
>> Okay. Did we have somebody on Zoom
[1:32:42] earlier? Sorry for being so word.
>> No, that's okay.
[1:32:47] » They haven't raised their hands.
>> No.
[1:32:50] » Okay. Any further discussion or comments
from anyone?
[1:32:55] » I [clears throat]
if you recall, we did receive an email
[1:33:00] from Mr. Wear
demanding that we take a stand one way
[1:33:05] or another and today we get an email
from supporters don't do anything.
[1:33:12] » So I want to know why it was you need to
take a stand and now it's don't do
[1:33:18] anything let let the hearing Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:33:20] » Um
I am totally in favor of the program. I
[1:33:26] think that is important, but they need
to work out their issues with the CPU.
[1:33:32] Um, but I think we need to send the
letter saying because if we don't send
[1:33:36] that letter, they're going to look at it
like, oh, well, the the city doesn't
[1:33:41] care, but we do. We totally support this
grant bringing fiber to the island,
[1:33:49] » but
it needs to be done the right way. So,
[1:33:54] » okay. So, if there's no further
comments,
[1:33:56] » just real quickly, I I want to add I
meant to add this earlier that the
[1:34:00] there's one issue in the in the draft
resolution where the the CPC in the
[1:34:05] draft resolution, they talk about that
there are no direct safety
[1:34:08] considerations or concerns. We address
that in the letter because I believe
[1:34:13] there are uh where we sit. We talk about
that in the letter that uh because of
[1:34:18] our geographical location reliable title
communications infrastructure is
[1:34:22] essential to public safety public safety
emergency response healthcare education
[1:34:27] government operations etc. So I what I
said we don't disagree you know they
[1:34:33] don't address the needs that that is one
thing that I would disagree with because
[1:34:36] of where we're at. So we do address that
in the letter and make that clear which
[1:34:40] I think is important.
So, is there a motion?
[1:34:48] » I'll make I'll make the motion to to
>> Let's see. What do we want?
[1:34:53] » You know, he lost it, too. [cough]
>> Uh to We discussed the response to the
[1:34:59] draft resolution on behalf of the city
of Avalon. If consensus exists, approved
[1:35:03] letter to be submitted prior to filing
deadline September 3rd, 2026 at 5:00
[1:35:08] p.m. So, I make that motion.
>> Moved and seconded.
[1:35:11] » And there's no public comment. And if I
could just there's no public comment. I
[1:35:16] hear a lot of clapping and so I don't
know if there's public comment on this.
[1:35:20] » We're checking with Matt right now.
>> Yeah. He said nobody put their hand up.
[1:35:24] » Nobody in the room.
>> Nobody Nobody has reacted online.
[1:35:27] » No.
>> And no comment in that.
[1:35:29] » Thank you.
>> No, thank you. Call for the vote.
[1:35:35] » All eyes. Yep.
>> Uh final item number seven. the cities
[1:35:40] in this uh capacity. Uh the following
general business, Avalon City Council is
[1:35:45] acting as the housing authority. Uh 206
East Whitney retaining wall change order
[1:35:50] number two and hopefully final.
>> Yes, final.
[1:35:57] Um, this item considers authorizing a
second construction contract change
[1:36:02] order and increasing the contract sum by
171,318
[1:36:09] for a total not to exceed of $1.15853
million.
[1:36:15] Okay, some background.
In developing uh a plan for a potential
[1:36:21] second building at 206 East Whitley,
geotechnical engineers determined the
[1:36:27] existing retaining walls at the
property's boundaries needed remediation
[1:36:32] to extend their service life in case the
existing building or replacement in case
[1:36:37] of a new building due to corrosion on
the existing tiebacks and age of the
[1:36:41] concrete. There was, you know, some very
tall walls there, especially above the
[1:36:46] Hermosa Hotel that had existing tiebacks
that were every four feet. They were
[1:36:52] like number five rebar and they were
corroded. So the geotechnical engineers
[1:36:58] at the time was afraid if one of those
went, the whole wall would go. So that
[1:37:03] would not support that second building.
Um, in order to ensure the opportunity
[1:37:08] for the highest and best use for the
property, staff proposed remediation the
[1:37:13] existing retaining wall and the
additionally leveling and backfilling of
[1:37:18] the adjacent area up above that would
widen and recapture areas of the
[1:37:23] southern portion of East Whitley public
rightway at the 90 degree curve there as
[1:37:28] it heads down to Whitley right in front
of the property. the elevation and
[1:37:33] further frontage improvements of the
rideway would allow the on-site parking
[1:37:37] of nine future housing site units. So,
it wouldn't be taking up um the public
[1:37:42] rideway with that parking for that
housing. Um and then also provide three
[1:37:48] additional public parking spots right
there adjacent to the side where Hermosa
[1:37:53] Hotel was or is. And uh while this redu
uh while this widening would reduce one
[1:38:00] informal unmaintained access to the back
of the Hermaso Hotel, there was a
[1:38:05] driveway, a little driveway that went
back and it was in terrible shape, was
[1:38:09] not maintained. It was a liability to
the city. So what we did, we ended up
[1:38:13] raising everything and all of that
parking wouldn't be just for the Hermosa
[1:38:17] Hotel and that private drive that
driveway which was in the public rideway
[1:38:22] but would be available for all of those
residents in that corner there and in a
[1:38:27] safe location. Okay. So that was really
the plan that we had.
[1:38:33] Okay. So initially the project design
utilize an MSE wall. This is no
[1:38:38] different than what we'll be using out
in the landfill. And so it's a MSC wall
[1:38:43] is a mechanically stabilized earth wall.
And the way that we do those is we built
[1:38:49] with blocks that interlock along the
face and we kind of batter those on a
[1:38:53] slope. And then about every other one we
put a piece of geoteexile fabric that
[1:38:59] goes back into the fill. Then we uh
compact the fill on top of that. And we
[1:39:04] just keep on repeating that. So that you
know that geoteexo fabric locked into
[1:39:09] that face of that wall is what holds and
retains that very simple system. We
[1:39:14] thought it was a really good fit for
this project. Um, but once we got down
[1:39:20] into the bottom of the excavation right
at the uh property line with Hermosa, we
[1:39:25] found that we didn't have it started a
point where we'd have to be chasing it
[1:39:31] down into the Hermosa property. So, we
went back into a more conventional
[1:39:35] design.
Okay. So, Jordal Construction's been
[1:39:40] working diligently on this project. We
did get stalled when we had to redesign.
[1:39:43] So that's why you've seen a very
extended period of time, but we're
[1:39:47] almost done. Um, however, working on the
lower extent of the westernly property
[1:39:52] determining lower retaining wall like I
had said did not have the structural
[1:39:56] support for the proposed MSE wall and so
that's why we moved to the other one. Um
[1:40:03] the we did come in and ask for cont uh
contract change order one and it was my
[1:40:08] understanding when I was negotiating
that that there was a cost savings with
[1:40:12] Jord of 171 318 it was and that was not
really the case. It was that there was
[1:40:20] whatever was remaining and this
additional uh initial uh change order
[1:40:26] one cost. So before when I presented it,
I said there was a reduction on it and
[1:40:32] it came down to $270,000
to the contract and really it was and
[1:40:38] that was additive on top of what was
already existing in other contracts. So
[1:40:43] there was some miscommunication between
the contractor and I and but the value
[1:40:47] was needed to be able to complete the
project and I'll show you that here just
[1:40:51] to just to see that for your own eyes
that we are receiving that value and you
[1:40:57] see really the extent of this.
Okay. So, this is we're at the very
[1:41:04] bottom of the of the wall and there's a
uh rebar footing that's double rebar and
[1:41:11] so you can see the guy's walking on that
that's 24 in thick and it's rebar every
[1:41:16] 8 in and a double matte slab and it's 10
feet wide and that's so that this can
[1:41:22] support um the fill because of a tall
wall but it also can fill what we look
[1:41:28] at in engineering as the searchcharge
load for a building also So to be able
[1:41:32] to put that pressure on that wall. So
that's why it has to be something that
[1:41:37] is almost like a bunker.
Okay. You can see it closer in there.
[1:41:42] You can see the significant amount of
work. You can also see to the right
[1:41:47] there that there's the homosa. There's a
wall down there where we don't want to
[1:41:51] depend on that wall, that little
retaining wall that was backed by that
[1:41:55] road. We want to be able to build this
wall and have it stand on its own. You
[1:42:00] also can see behind the worker there,
there's another trench that's down there
[1:42:06] below that and that's another two foot
deep and that's called a key and that
[1:42:10] keeps the whole thing from sliding. So
this thing is like a tea and with this
[1:42:16] rebar mat that's two foot thick of
concrete and it's locked into the
[1:42:21] hillside. So it's it's has a very
significant safety factor here. We can
[1:42:26] depend on this to to do its job for
decades to come.
[1:42:33] This is after we get that foundation
poured. We have a block wall that starts
[1:42:37] the bottom of it. You can see
um excuse me, I got wrong way. Here is
[1:42:44] the footing. It's poured and ready to
receive the block wall.
[1:42:49] Now, we put the block wall in to start
it. And then um really what also
[1:42:55] supports this is there was tiebacks that
were drilled into the rock back with
[1:43:02] number nine uh rebar. So inch and an
eighth. It was drilled back in and put
[1:43:07] 10 foot back into the rock and then came
back into this wall. And you'll see how
[1:43:13] that's done right here. Uh there still
that
[1:43:17] um this is the waterproofing before we
back filled. Here's the cages that hold
[1:43:22] that tieback and that's placed on top of
that um that block wall. And now it
[1:43:29] becomes reinforced concrete. And so
that's called a grade beam. You can see
[1:43:35] here that those cages are now placed and
soon you're going to see the tiebacks
[1:43:40] connected to them because they're
they're short. They're short little
[1:43:43] stubs in the hillside and then we extend
them.
[1:43:47] Okay, you can see the tiebacks now
coming out an angle.
[1:43:54] You can see that the walls ra the
reinforced concrete portion with a a
[1:44:00] significant amount of steel. Here we're
pumping the concrete.
[1:44:06] Here is finished product of the tieback
wall with a concrete wall con to the con
[1:44:12] the tiebacks going into the concrete
wall which was built on top of the uh
[1:44:17] block wall.
Here we back filled it and it will has
[1:44:24] holes for a fence up top.
Here you can see this upper wall. That's
[1:44:30] where the parking and that extension in
the rideway. That's what I The wall down
[1:44:35] below we call wall A. The one that we're
working on almost finished is wall B.
[1:44:40] The one that goes 90 degrees
approximately to that.
[1:44:44] Here we're working on wall B. Now you
can see we're in the back around the
[1:44:48] Hermosa Hotel. And that taller wall,
this whole area here, this taller,
[1:44:53] that's going to be up at the level of
the road. And that's so that parking can
[1:44:57] pull in. And then when the housing is
built, it actually can have decks uh
[1:45:02] second story decks overhanging the
parking. So you're not losing that space
[1:45:06] for square footage there. You know, it's
just tucked in nicely. Would have a
[1:45:10] walkway there, have all the parking in
front for all the units there and it
[1:45:15] would be outside. So one of the other
benefits in the public rideway here is
[1:45:20] now we've moved that parking which was
on the road off the road. Now we have a
[1:45:25] delivery zone. We have emergency access
zone right in front of this property.
[1:45:30] And it's always been problematic when
you try to turn that corner and somebody
[1:45:34] has to deliver or whatever there, you
know, or the emergency services going
[1:45:39] down uh the stairs that they'll have
someplace to be in that where the
[1:45:44] parking was now and be right there. So
the full road will be open to pass all
[1:45:49] that. Okay. So um improvements to the
safety of the road and additional
[1:45:56] parking for those area for the residents
in that area.
[1:46:02] Okay. So what I wanted to show you that
for is the value. You know that you're
[1:46:07] saying are really if we're issuing a
change order of this size are we really
[1:46:12] truly getting the value? We think we
are. Okay. And that's why we're
[1:46:15] presenting this to you. We think that uh
Jordall Construction has given us a fair
[1:46:20] price and has diligently done the work.
Uh we just want to be able to close out
[1:46:25] and complete the project. So that's
what's in front of you. Any questions?
[1:46:29] » I just kind of have overall questions.
So
[1:46:35] do we know for sure that another five
units are actually going to be put on
[1:46:39] that property?
Um, I don't I can't say we know for sure
[1:46:45] that our our goal is to maximize the
value of it. Okay?
[1:46:49] » Because then I'm thinking we've already
got four units there. So basically the
[1:46:53] four units are paid for. This is a
million dollar. So that's about $110,000
[1:47:00] we would put into those nine units,
right? I mean split that million dollars
[1:47:04] over the nine units. and then we build a
five units for whatever and now we're
[1:47:11] guaranteed we're going to get housing
cuz because I also so this isn't so much
[1:47:19] a question for you I guess as as with
the city manager. So we paid for that
[1:47:24] with lowinccome money or whatever,
right?
[1:47:27] » So there's really if we do a swap
there's really no money change. How do
[1:47:32] we put that money back into what would
be low income if we're building
[1:47:36] workforce housing? How how does that
>> Well, those are two different things of
[1:47:42] what we're trying to do back here,
right?
[1:47:44] » Sorry. On Tmont. Okay. That that's not
using uh we're not proposing to do that
[1:47:50] project with housing money. That's why
we're pursu pursuing other funding with
[1:47:53] that.
>> Um so 206 East Whitley, as you know, was
[1:47:57] purchased with housing funds. So those
that property and th that housing would
[1:48:01] have to be designated for what those
funds were designated. If we go a
[1:48:06] different direction with that property,
whatever proportionate share, say $3
[1:48:11] million of value goes into another
project and that's 25% of the new
[1:48:16] project and 25% of the new project's
housing would have to be low income. So
[1:48:21] we would keep track of that. But right
now the goal was to maximize that 206
[1:48:27] site for the most housing we could get
up there.
[1:48:30] » So do we have any idea? Okay. We bought
it for 28 23 or whenever way back in the
[1:48:36] day.
>> 2008.
[1:48:39] » That was a long time ago.
>> Was it about 2008 when
[1:48:42] » Okay. So we So that was about 2.8 we
spent or 2.3 million or something. So,
[1:48:49] what is the value of that property,
especially with all of the because the
[1:48:54] improvements that that million dollars
really is worth more than a million
[1:48:58] dollars?
>> Yeah, we we have a we have an appraisal
[1:49:00] of that property and we can make that
available to council.
[1:49:02] » I'm just going to curious.
>> Okay.
[1:49:04] » We can get that to you.
>> Okay.
[1:49:08] » But my comment on it is like we've had
this property since 2008
[1:49:13] and
>> we still really haven't built anything
[1:49:16] on it. So it would be nice to do
something. So
[1:49:20] » yep.
>> Oh, I know.
[1:49:21] » My comment is why does it take so long
to get
[1:49:25] » get these projects? You write diligently
a couple times and that means to go
[1:49:29] fast, get it done three years and we're
still pouring cement and getting change
[1:49:35] orders.
So like I expressed I think a previous
[1:49:40] council meeting, we have limited
resources with our contractors and we
[1:49:46] try to keep as much as possible when uh
we do bid these that these are local
[1:49:53] resources actually bidding it, but they
go out to a public bid and sometimes
[1:49:59] it's on this one it was actually um the
uh because of the extra engineering that
[1:50:08] kind of stalled things and then it got
everything kind of out of the flow of,
[1:50:13] you know, the contractor that was
working with the personnel on there and
[1:50:16] then we brought them over to Five
Corners and having those limited
[1:50:20] resources kind of got it the flow going.
Could have happened better. Um, we're
[1:50:25] almost at the very end of it now. Um,
there is a very good value to this site.
[1:50:31] I mean, it has new utilities that we put
in, has new frontage improvements, it
[1:50:36] has the ability, you know, to support
the nine units there. So, for the
[1:50:42] community, I mean, this there's very few
properties that could do what this
[1:50:46] property could do in this community.
>> When's Five Corner going to be done?
[1:50:53] » So, we're uh I I plan on giving council
an update on this next meeting. Okay.
[1:50:59] And so you'll see a fuel a full slide
deck. But the short answer that I can
[1:51:05] offer today is that we're planning on
paving in October. When you see paving
[1:51:09] going out there, we're getting near
completion. Okay.
[1:51:12] » I'm just getting worried. We got so many
capital improvement projects. Every time
[1:51:16] you turn around, you're moving over
here, you're moving over there.
[1:51:18] Nothing's getting done.
[1:51:23] » For sure. Yeah.
>> Yeah. We can give, you know, very
[1:51:27] detailed reports on where we're at on
each one of them.
[1:51:30] » I'd love to see that. Every report, how
much you've spent, that'd be great. I'd
[1:51:35] love to see that.
>> Okay. We can work on that. Okay. We'd
[1:51:38] love to do that. Um, we do have other
items still kind of pending here. We
[1:51:42] haven't voted on that, have we?
I'll make a motion to authorize city
[1:51:48] manager or his design to execute the
second amendment to the construction
[1:51:52] contract between the city of Avalon and
Georgeall Construction Inc.
[1:51:56] Incorporating change order number two
and increasing the contra
[1:52:01] [clears throat] contract sum by $171,318
[1:52:05] for a total not to exceed an amount of
1,158,573
[1:52:11] uh to amend the fiscal year 2627 budget
by allocating an additional 100,000 to
[1:52:18] the capital improvement project.
>> How do I speak?
[1:52:20] » Uh 205015.
>> Do you want to speak on this item, Mary?
[1:52:25] » Fun. Yes.
>> Excuse me.
[1:52:28] » 325-6547.
[1:52:32] » Okay. Before before we have the motion
voted on, we have a p member of the
[1:52:37] public that would like to speak on this
item.
[1:52:40] » Oh. Oh, excellent. Okay.
>> Hi, Mary Shikling 139 Whitley. Um, I
[1:52:47] know this is a new system and and it was
uh brought about by the Brown Act, but
[1:52:52] just to let you know there's a glitches,
but I did have a question regarding um
[1:52:58] Bob's last statement. What does he mean
by there's um very few properties on
[1:53:03] this island that can do what this one
can do? What do you mean by that?
[1:53:08] » He's coming to the podium.
>> Okay.
[1:53:13] So when we as you develop a property, I
mean, you're looking to have it ready to
[1:53:19] go. The are the utilities there? Yes, we
put in brand new solar. We put in uh we
[1:53:25] upgraded the portable water connection.
Um we've uh addressed the gas lines
[1:53:32] there. We addressed the electric. uh we
have taken what what it was a
[1:53:39] substandard retaining wall and now made
it have the ability to support an
[1:53:46] additional building. So all of that was
calculated in the loads. So like when I
[1:53:51] say a search charge that it could
support a building. So there's not many
[1:53:57] available uh pieces of property that
could do that could add up to nine units
[1:54:04] and have provide nine units
>> and that have all
[1:54:07] » okay that have all the utilities and all
the infrastructure and all the parking.
[1:54:10] So all of those things that planning
commission would that would be asking
[1:54:13] and looking for to be addressed we've
already uh taken that on and addressed
[1:54:19] that as we uh put together the project.
>> Okay. Okay, I got you there. Um, but the
[1:54:27] a couple of council meetings ago when
you said that we were we don't have the
[1:54:33] funding for the quote unquote civic
center housing behind the um the complex
[1:54:40] there. Um, and this one is costing way
more than the civic center housing. And
[1:54:47] I know that Dave, you just said that
we're not using housing funds because
[1:54:53] Um the this project was first purchased
with housing funds, but and 25% of it
[1:55:01] has to be low income. So why can't 25%
of the civic center, which would provide
[1:55:08] way more housing than this property
would and get that project going, you
[1:55:15] know, because this one's been sitting
there since 2008.
[1:55:20] Uh I I would just say that I said we are
using housing funds for the 206 East
[1:55:26] Whitley project. We we did not
anticipate using housing funds for the
[1:55:32] uh the civic center housing directly
behind city hall because we didn't want
[1:55:36] to encumber that property with the
restrictions that the housing funds
[1:55:39] have. If we can do that, one of the
options obviously would be, you know, if
[1:55:44] we make the determination from a funding
standpoint and we have additional
[1:55:47] housing funds, we could do that. we
could we could include that those 26
[1:55:51] units and proportionally have six or
eight or four of them, however that
[1:55:55] works out designated for that. That is
an option. Um we're we're trying to
[1:56:00] explore and see where we go with, you
know, Congressman Garcia's earmark, you
[1:56:04] know, if that comes to fruition of where
we're at, if we can build that project
[1:56:07] without it. So that's that's what we're
evaluating on the civic center side.
[1:56:12] » Okay. Well, we just we have an
excruciating need for housing and the
[1:56:16] whole time that the four years that I
was there, I was under the impression
[1:56:20] that we had um funds secured for the
civic center project and I don't know
[1:56:27] where the funds went.
[1:56:31] » Well, they didn't go anywhere. We still
have funds left over because of the 44
[1:56:36] unit. If we can acquire land for our
secondary phase of housing, we would
[1:56:41] like to use those housing funds in the
larger unit. So, we do still have I
[1:56:46] believe three three and a half million
in housing funds left.
[1:56:51] » Yeah, it was and I think some of the
issue with the housing was is we are
[1:56:56] building a lot of big projects. Uh like
council member Lopez said, we have a lot
[1:57:01] of projects. We have a lot of uh cash
flow going out. We want to get to the
[1:57:07] point where uh we've got the mole
underway. Once we get u a definite value
[1:57:13] on on a project as big as the mole,
which is coming up, I mean within the
[1:57:18] next six months, we're going to know
exactly what that construction value is.
[1:57:21] We're working on it right now. Then, you
know, then we can have a better sense of
[1:57:26] of the cash flow that would be needed uh
to build this uh uh the housing
[1:57:32] projects.
[1:57:35] Okay, thank you for your time.
>> We also have another public speaker.
[1:57:44] » Go ahead, Susanna.
>> Hi, my name is Susanna Gutierrez 139
[1:57:49] Whitley.
Um, I just wanted to follow up on what
[1:57:53] you guys were discussing. I appreciate
you mentioning the remaining balance of
[1:57:56] the affordable housing fund. Um it so
from my understanding it looks like
[1:58:01] we've spent a little over a million
dollars and we have three million left
[1:58:06] for the 2060 Whitley property and I was
just curious if there was a cost
[1:58:10] estimate for renovating the existing
structure and if there is an estimated
[1:58:14] start date for renovating those
buildings or if that's still um if
[1:58:19] that's pending conversation or pending
you know completion of the site
[1:58:23] improvement.
Yeah, I would say the restoration
[1:58:27] existing is still pending.
>> Yes.
[1:58:31] » We don't.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:58:34] » Are you saying restoration of the four
units?
[1:58:37] » Yeah. The existing building.
>> Existing.
[1:58:39] » Yeah. And additional when we entered
into this, we had the plans for the
[1:58:44] renovation of the existing building and
then we had a tenative plan that we
[1:58:49] would have brought to planning
commission for an additional five units.
[1:58:57] Okay.
Continue.
[1:59:02] » Have a motion. Right.
>> I can make the motion. Yeah.
[1:59:05] » So, I'll second.
>> Second call.
[1:59:15] » Uh, four eyes, one no. Council member
Lopez.
[1:59:21] » All right. No further. Thank you for
>> anything meeting agenda.
[1:59:29] That's