[0:00] have the PDF [0:02] recordings in progress, which is great. [0:04] Um, I'm gonna switch. [0:07] That's a thing. So, um, just a minute. [0:10] Where'd it go? I'm looking for it. Okay, [0:12] there it is. So, I was looking at this [0:14] PDF that I that I was I was lovingly [0:17] given by Susan, which is kind of we read [0:20] a bit of it last time, half of it, which [0:23] is this uh this chapter in a book about [0:26] the developmental stages um from an [0:29] anthroposophical [0:30] Waldorf Steiner perspective. And uh I [0:33] was looking at it. I'll just share my [0:35] screen here [0:37] just a minute. [0:40] Don't know if you can see it. [0:44] Anyway, um sorry, tiny screen for me. [0:46] So, I need to [0:49] move some things around. [0:51] Okay, so um the thing that happens in [0:54] the remainder of this chapter is about [0:59] um well, to be frank, it's about gender. [1:02] And I figured that that's a contentious [1:04] enough topic and debated enough even [1:07] within anthroposophical circles. I'm not [1:09] sure I want to dwell on it that that [1:11] much. [1:12] >> Okay. [1:13] >> If that makes sense because I think that I I I don't know what I think about [1:17] it. I don't know if I can say anything [1:19] about it without offending someone. So, [1:22] um I'll I'll kind of dwell on something [1:24] else which has been on my mind a lot [1:27] lately in terms of adolescent spiritual [1:31] development. Let's put it that way if [1:33] you're okay with that. Um [1:34] >> yes, [1:35] >> I've seen some really disturbing statistics about [1:42] uh the beliefs and attitudes of people [1:46] of let's say later Gen Z people. Um for [1:49] instance, one of the things I've found [1:52] is that [1:55] 60% of them um don't believe that [1:59] democracy is the best form of [2:00] government. For instance, can you [2:02] believe that? like among the very young [2:05] there is a really high prevalence of [2:08] beliefs that I would have found shocking [2:10] when I was um when I was a teenager. Um, [2:14] and [2:15] what really disturbs me about [2:19] the world of the young today is, to be [2:23] quite frank, the rise of of nihilism and [2:27] cynicism in a way that I think I was [2:30] talking with Carol about this earlier [2:32] that that really disturbs me because I [2:34] was a teenager in the late 2000s and I [2:37] remember just this wave of enthusiasm [2:41] for people like Obama And there's this sense of hope that happened at that [2:45] time. And I don't see that in children [2:48] today and excuse me in teenagers today. [2:51] And I'm just I think I just want to kind [2:54] of give it to discussion to ask um [2:58] because this is an open question for me. [3:01] Do you think that any level of cynicism [3:05] is healthy for a teenager? Is there a [3:08] right level? Is is any level [3:10] appropriate? What do you think? [3:12] Christian, can you put yourself back on [3:14] as the face [3:19] >> book of a book that we're not going to [3:21] study tonight. [laughter] [3:23] >> That's right. Forgot I was a book. [3:26] But yeah, what do you think about that? [3:30] You think that cynicism [3:31] >> Thea Thea has her hand raised. [3:33] >> Oh, I didn't see your hand. Thank you. [3:35] Go ahead, Thea. Um, you know, when I was [3:37] a teenager, I had a certain amount of [3:40] cynicism, but it was like um on the [3:44] lookout for hypocrisy, [3:47] >> you know. [3:48] >> Yeah. [3:48] >> And uh and and I was at a Steiner [3:51] College and I was like questioning all [3:55] the, you know, the and I was uh 19, 20, [4:00] but I was like that in South Africa. We [4:04] had um we were the whites, you know, and [4:07] so we had um a duty to be educated [4:13] and so we educated ourselves and we [4:16] would go out for coffee and have [4:18] discussions and you know and talk about [4:21] things and bounce ourselves off each [4:24] other and um and I think that that was [4:27] healthy. [4:29] Um, and uh, we learned history. We [4:32] learned about Hitler and his playbook, [4:35] you know, and we see it sometimes um, [4:39] unfolding in other countries and even [4:43] ours in some ways. So, um, I think there [4:47] is a healthy cynicism [4:49] and and didn't believe in God, went to [4:52] Catholic school and was, you know, not [4:55] believing in any of those things. Um, [5:00] and yet, um, you know, I, [5:03] uh, I, I wanted, but I wanted the truth. [5:07] I think teenagers want you to be true to [5:10] yourself, to your heart, and to be real, [5:14] you know, and authentic. [5:17] >> Is there a level of cynicism that's excessive? And if so, when what [5:23] what's that threshold for a teenager? [5:26] Isn't there a thought that there are mo [5:28] there are places and times for the [5:30] cynicism? For instance, in Waldorf [5:32] education in the lower grades up until, [5:35] you know, six or or so, we never we [5:38] don't teach anything that has to do with [5:40] the um like [5:42] >> okay like yeah kind of a you you want to [5:46] teach [5:48] because they don't they have so little [5:49] knowledge. You want to start with the [5:51] knowledge of, you know, what is [5:53] beautiful and what is um inspiring. And [5:56] so you take the stories as they were [5:58] told in mythologies and other things [6:00] that were that were inspiring and [6:02] beautiful. You don't tear them apart, [6:04] you know, at that moment in the in the [6:06] life of a child. It's not the It's not [6:08] the place, like you said, Christian, to [6:10] analyze things yet because analyzing [6:13] means you're tearing something apart or [6:15] you're or you're breaking it apart into [6:18] smaller pieces and making judgments [6:20] about it and then, you know, so we don't [6:23] do that in the lower grades at all. So, [6:25] there is a place though in I'm sure in [6:27] high school where those things happen. [6:29] But, but there there used to be this old [6:32] framework that I loved. It's not a [6:34] Waldorf framework, but it was a [6:35] philosophical framework for planning [6:38] your teaching. And it started out with [6:39] metaphors surrounding something like a [6:42] historical epic or something. But what [6:44] they said is that you you move into the the teaching of what happened and [6:49] then you have discussions about the good [6:52] and the bad, but in the end, the teacher [6:54] should bring it back into some kind of [6:56] whole structure that is meaningful. you [7:00] don't just leave it at the torn apart [7:02] section like where we're just tearing [7:04] everything apart. So I think even in the [7:06] high school there's a place for that in [7:08] a like the philosophic framework used to [7:11] have a place for in the end the teacher [7:13] should synthesize and bring together [7:15] some points that are meaningful to the [7:18] class that you don't just leave it at [7:20] the synthesizing [7:22] um aspect. [7:24] >> That's great. That's great. Do you think [7:27] um do you think that [7:30] uh the those children who are so [7:34] nihilistic today [7:36] >> have had um a a real good dose of [7:41] teachers who [7:43] have uh modeled [7:46] um a a good representative of a human [7:50] being. [7:51] >> I think that's part of the problem. [7:55] I think they've had they've not had [7:56] enough exposure to human beings for [7:58] their learning at all. Right. Because [8:01] you know there's this you you got this [8:03] two-dimensional thing that will teach [8:05] you instead of a screen. [8:06] >> Yes, that's right. [8:08] >> I'm quite concerned about I mean we've [8:10] heard all the horrors about social media [8:12] and screens for kids. I think we're only [8:14] just starting to realize the horror of [8:15] AI chat bots for kids. [8:18] >> That's something that's just starting. [8:20] You have these little things that are [8:22] they'll be your kid's best friend. It'll [8:24] be exactly [8:25] >> know in the in Denver they just had a [8:28] 10year-old suicide in the school in the [8:31] world school [8:33] >> and he was a lot on video games. His [8:37] parents allowed him and they told him on [8:41] the video game that if he does himself [8:44] in he can reincarnate into one of those [8:46] powerful figures. [8:48] >> Oh no. [8:50] Terry has her hand up. I don't know if [8:51] you can see everybody. [8:53] >> Years old. [8:54] >> Yeah, [8:56] >> Carrie. [8:57] >> Go ahead. [9:01] » Microphone's off. Carrie, [9:07] » can you hear me? It's not telling me [9:10] that I'm muted. [9:12] >> Just barely. You're You're breaking up [9:15] >> now. [9:16] >> Weird. Okay, [9:17] >> now you sound clear. Is that better? [9:21] >> It wasn't muted, but um I think there's [9:25] just balance, right? I love the idea of [9:27] like bringing it back to the good and [9:30] that good, you know, like I think in [9:33] life generally that we hope that good [9:37] wins over evil. But I'm also like seeing [9:40] with my teenager that um he is like the [9:45] opposite of cynical. like he just thinks [9:47] everything works out great all the time. [9:50] You do [9:52] like I can trust everyone and I can [9:55] believe everything I hear and read and [9:58] see on the internet. Sorry, I'm in the [10:01] car where it's quiet and it's got dark. [10:04] Um, and so, and I've had to like give [10:08] him kind of a reality check just so that [10:11] he recognizes like our choices [10:16] have influence and like we have to be [10:19] wise on what we trust and who we trust. [10:23] So, I think that needs to be part of it, [10:25] right? [10:26] >> That's pretty much all I had to say. [10:28] >> Wisdom and street smarts. And I think [10:30] that one can't replace the other. [10:34] Yeah. [10:35] >> Yeah. I mean, how do you teach street [10:37] smarts to a kid who doesn't pick it up? [10:39] Like, can I can is that I don't Is that [10:40] something a teacher can do? I don't [10:42] know. That's that just occurred to me. [10:44] What do you think, Carol? [10:45] >> Well, um I mean, one of the things that [10:48] I love about the Waldorf education is [10:49] the stories, right? you know, and so [10:52] when the students see these human beings [10:55] modeling in their lives these um events [10:58] that happen um that that lives more [11:02] deeply in the children than just giving [11:04] them you you can tell them a list of [11:07] instructions, but when they live it in [11:10] part, they they can pick that up. So [11:13] literature is really important in having [11:16] good models of how to navigate [11:18] situations through the stories that are [11:20] being told as well as how we bring the [11:23] curriculum um and how we [11:26] create situations for them to problem [11:29] solve, right? Like they they have an [11:31] experience and they have to navigate and [11:33] they have to figure out and they have [11:34] to, you know, bump up against hard [11:37] things and keep working at it. That's [11:38] why the handwork is so important. That's [11:40] why the, you know, the perseverance and, [11:43] oh, you know, you missed the stitch 10 [11:44] rows back. Are you going to live with [11:46] that mistake? Are you going to rip it [11:47] out? Like, is this one that you can live [11:50] with or not? You know, so giving them [11:52] those skills in in that practical little [11:54] piece then helps them transfer those [11:57] thoughts and skills um to other things. [12:02] something that that just kind of a [12:03] memory that just kind of came to my [12:04] mind. Um I was in college when Sudoku [12:07] really kind of became big and and so I [12:10] was like, "Oh, okay." So I started doing [12:11] these Sudoku puzzles and it's a logic [12:15] game. It's not a math game. It's a logic [12:17] game. If this is true, then this must be [12:20] true. And I noticed as I practiced those [12:24] puzzles and that way of thinking, I was [12:28] able to in in some of my coursework and other situations in my life, my [12:33] brain was thinking if this is true, then [12:35] that is true. If this is true, then that [12:36] is true. Um and and it was really I I [12:40] think it's just being in my early 20s [12:41] and then you know this new skill that I [12:43] was developing and and so I don't know [12:47] that it felt related. I don't know how [12:48] it relates to what we're talking about, [12:50] but it just kind of [laughter] [12:52] that's where my thoughts went. [12:53] >> Logic is important. Shander talks a lot [12:55] about logic. I think I might need to [12:57] tune out here real fast because I'm [12:58] being I'm being needed as you can hear. [13:01] Um, someone someone wants me. So, I'll [13:04] be I'll be voting by by raised hand [13:06] emoji and I'll be listening. [13:08] >> Okay. Thank you, Christian. That that's [13:10] really a really good thought for [13:12] discussion. Um, [13:13] >> I just wanted to say I think our biggest [13:16] struggle with teenagers will be that [13:20] like we're raising a generation of [13:23] snowflakes. I feel like that can't [13:26] handle hard [13:28] that that everything has come so easy to [13:31] them in their life. They don't have [13:33] >> I use the word snowflakes. It's loaded, [13:36] [laughter] [13:37] >> you know, [13:37] >> loaded. [13:39] I guess like um they're like I just feel [13:44] like they [13:47] everything comes too easy to them these [13:50] days and they don't know how to [13:52] persevere through a lot of things and do [13:54] the hard work that life requires [13:57] sometimes to get good results. [14:01] >> I think part of that also is having that [14:05] one onone experience with other people. [14:07] I have a child that's in this [14:09] demographic and the other day they came [14:11] to me and they just sat down and they [14:13] drew me a picture of the entire social [14:16] dynamic of the lunchroom and it was [14:19] absolutely fascinating and like I've [14:21] known most of this like I I went to [14:22] middle school. I know how it is. [14:23] [laughter] Um but she was just so [14:26] enamored with it and she [14:29] was having that experience and learning [14:32] from it. And I think a lot of the time [14:34] when we have kids isolated from each [14:37] other or from a community, they're not [14:39] given the opportunity to do that. And I [14:41] think you can isolate kids to a certain [14:43] extent up until about that 9-year [14:45] change. [clears throat] [14:46] >> And then that necessity for community [14:49] and for the broader world view to come [14:52] in is what they need. And sometimes [14:54] that's not pleasant. [14:56] >> No, that's sometimes it is pleasant and [14:58] sometimes they get a chuckle out of it. [15:00] but they have to go up against their [15:03] peers. [15:07] » Thank you. That was just really a great [15:09] discussion. Um our board capacity [15:12] building this this month. Um we have [15:16] we're working on a board governance [15:18] framework and Sarah kindly has put this [15:21] all together and is starting the process [15:23] of it. It will cover how we um work with [15:27] uh director evaluation, our board goals [15:31] and charter compliance. Then we're [15:33] putting some questions in that [15:35] compliance document and I mean in that [15:37] document, that framework and we're [15:40] putting questions that we want to ask [15:42] oursel about the director and about our [15:44] goals and about charter compliance for [15:47] our board. And um we're still working on [15:49] it. It's just it's just new and it's on [15:51] our [15:53] um [15:55] and Sarah, did you give did you send [15:57] that to everyone or just Carol and I? [16:00] >> I've just sent it to the two of you [16:02] because I wanted to run it by you guys [16:03] first. [16:04] >> We're going to work on I just want you [16:05] to know it's in the works and we're [16:07] looking through it and writing it and uh [16:10] we will be talking about this at our [16:12] upcoming board retreat. So I I put a [16:15] date together for our board retreat. Uh, [16:18] I'm proposing that we work on um on our [16:22] retreat for June 6th from 9 to 2 pm or [16:26] from 11 to 4 p.m. Um, we'll have an [16:30] intensive more intensive Steiner study [16:32] review of the past year, setting goals [16:35] for our next year, approving budgets and [16:37] policies to start in the fall, setting [16:40] goals and evaluation process for that [16:42] for the director. So, I all of this is [16:44] in the works. So, I just want you to [16:45] know that it's happening. We'll send it [16:48] out when we have the framework a little [16:49] more clearly put together and um and [16:52] written, but I just want you to know [16:54] that we're doing that as a board and [16:56] getting ready for our board um retreat. [17:00] So, it um we're planning to Were we [17:04] going to do this in person, Carol, or [17:05] online? How are you? [17:07] >> I think I think the board retreat would [17:08] be great in person if if we can. Um, [17:11] obviously we have a few people that [17:12] might need to still zoom in. Um, but [17:15] anybody that could gather in person [17:16] would be super helpful for [17:18] >> Yeah, I think that would be nice. [17:20] >> Um, I don't think that the board needs [17:22] to solidify the date um until May. If [17:26] the board is comfortable setting that [17:27] next month, then that's fine. So, we [17:29] wanted to give everybody plenty of time [17:30] to check your calendars, check your [17:32] commitments, and and give everyone [17:33] plenty of time. Um, [17:35] >> I just have a commitment. I'm I'm doing [17:37] a training for the Honeycomb Cottage [17:39] School for a week in June. So, I have a [17:42] commitment already. So, earlier in June [17:44] would be better for me if we could do [17:46] that. So, just look at your calendars [17:48] and and keep that in mind coming up. [17:51] >> There will also be so there there will [17:53] be a significant amount of documentation [17:55] and like the budget for next year. Um [17:58] and the budget will be a lot more [17:59] complicated than we did in this um [18:01] pre-operational year. So there'll be a [18:04] lot of pieces um to to discuss and and [18:07] work through and make sure that [18:08] everything is ready. So having that time [18:10] to kind of sit and counsel together. Um [18:13] it will be an open public meeting and [18:15] people are welcome to come um to [18:17] whatever location. I'm hoping that by [18:19] then we might be in our Provo location [18:22] um or we can still continue to use the office here in ORM. So those are [18:27] some options for that. The board will [18:29] also need to set the calendar I mean for [18:32] the the August board meeting date and [18:34] then in August you set the calendar for [18:36] the whole year. So those are some of the [18:38] other pieces in that. [18:40] >> Yes. So I will be in California the [18:43] first week of June. [18:45] >> Okay. [18:45] >> Until the 8th. [18:47] >> Sorry. [18:48] >> That's all right. [18:48] >> We have a family reunion that's not [18:50] negotiable. [18:54] » All right. So, we'll just keep everyone [18:56] just keep looking and if you could tell [18:58] me maybe other days in June that would [19:01] work for you. That's a Saturday, I [19:04] believe, that we set that June 6th. [19:06] >> Um, let's start it in an email thread so [19:08] that everybody can [19:09] >> Yeah. [19:10] >> can discuss that. [19:11] >> If you could set that up for me, Carol, [19:13] that would be great. [19:15] >> All right. Um, as far as our public [19:17] comments, I don't know that we have any [19:18] that that are that we have public [19:22] comments that are that are planned. So, [19:24] we'll move on to review of the minutes [19:26] from our previous meeting and we'll need [19:28] to vote on those minutes. Um do we need to go through them since [19:34] we sent them later or do you have did [19:37] anyone get to read those before you they [19:38] came tonight? Do you um tell me if you'd [19:42] like to have time to review those or can [19:44] we do go to the vote? Carol, what do you [19:47] think? [19:48] >> Vote until Marta is here. [19:50] >> Oh, Marta, that's right. [19:51] >> We can do a quick recap. That would be [19:53] great because I [19:54] >> Okay, Sarah, let's Yeah, if you could do [19:56] a quick recap for us of the meeting [19:58] notes from the 17th and the 26th. [20:01] >> Yes. So, on the February 17th, we had a [20:04] Steiner study by CJ about the long [20:07] spring birth to age 21. Susan [20:10] talked to us about charter board [20:12] university chapter 13. [20:14] We had a charter amendment proposal to [20:18] we needed to submit a charter amendment [20:20] requesting to open and provoke district [20:22] due to options in Alpine district being [20:24] too expensive for the school. [20:27] We had a proposal to edit the gut bin [20:30] board bylaws to remove the public [20:32] relations officer and set the minimum [20:33] number of board members at seven. Alicia [20:36] Milligan was had filled out the [20:38] application to join the board as a [20:40] voting member and she was approved. [20:42] There was a summary of board duties and [20:46] Oh, do you have a comment or just [20:48] waving? Hi. [20:50] >> She was waving. I think just making sure [20:53] she's part of us now. [20:54] >> My husband also walked in, so I just [20:57] >> Hello. [21:00] >> Sorry. [21:00] >> Okay. Sorry. There was a summary of [21:03] board duties and qualifications that [21:05] have been emailed to the board. We had a [21:07] building report by building report by [21:10] Clint. The calendar was delayed. We were [21:13] going to do that in the next board [21:14] meeting as well as the policy review. [21:16] However, we did go over the draft of the [21:18] contract for pre-operational deaf [21:20] pedagogy and that was reviewed and [21:23] approved. And then we had an admin [21:25] report by Carol where she went over [21:26] marketing and enrollment, the CSP grant, [21:28] the hiring update and website update. [21:32] And then we had a finance committee [21:33] meeting update from Marta and she had [21:36] met with Red Apple and learned about the [21:37] system and ensured that we were on track [21:40] for spending. [21:44] » Okay. Thank you, Sarah. Um I think we'll [21:47] delay the vote on those minutes then and [21:49] we'll move to our [21:50] >> Do you want me to read the second [21:52] meeting then? [21:53] >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, I [21:55] >> Okay. There was also February 26 where [21:58] we had an additional meeting for the [21:59] month. Um we approved a calendar there. [22:02] was some discussion. We had a we [22:06] approved the draft for the public [22:08] comments policy, discipline policy and [22:10] school fees. They were sent to the [22:11] review and there was some discussion. We [22:13] approved those. Um we also approved the [22:17] salary schedule and we had an admin [22:19] report on the CPS grant. [22:24] Okay. [22:26] All right. So Carol, are we ready? Can [22:29] we move to the building update with [22:31] Clint right now even though we don't [22:32] have Marta or what shall we do? [22:34] >> Clint hasn't joined yet. Um it's CSP not [22:37] CPS by the way. Sarah [laughter] [22:41] >> thank you Carol. It's been a long day. [22:43] >> Okay. [22:44] >> Um Clint isn't here to give an update. [22:47] There really isn't any additional [22:49] update. Um we are still on hold until [22:53] they um let us know of a date that they [22:56] would like to get together to sign. Um, [22:59] so we're still not able to publish that [23:01] information. Um, we are still answering [23:04] parents questions who contact us, [23:06] assuring them we do have a building. [23:07] It's a legal thing that we can't [23:08] disclose the full location, but also [23:11] assuring them of our transportation plan [23:12] to use school buses and the UTA passes [23:15] and and make sure that everybody has [23:17] equitable access to our location. So, [23:21] um, we're doing the best we can. We do [23:22] have um that that's all I'm going to say [23:26] about the building because the other [23:26] things start getting into other things [23:28] that I'll tell you guys later unless you [23:29] want to move to the um admin report [23:32] right now. [23:33] >> I think we should move to the admin [23:35] report. [23:36] >> Okay. So, let me pull that up. Um I [23:40] don't think we're going to need the [23:41] closed session tonight. Um that's really [23:43] all there was about the building. Um if [23:47] you guys have um questions, I wouldn't [23:50] delete it yet, Sarah. Um because if [23:52] Clint joins later and you guys have [23:54] questions for him, um you might move to [23:56] do that at that point. So this meeting [23:58] is going to be a little bit messy as we [24:00] shuffle things around. [laughter] [24:02] Um so the admin report um I have [24:06] submitted the charter amendment [24:08] application and the we should be able to [24:11] get on to the April 9th agenda for the [24:14] state charter school board. The [24:15] application included a request to [24:18] relocate to Provo School District, our [24:20] change in the bylaws to clarify the [24:22] board officer descriptions and remove [24:24] the PR position. Um the articulation [24:27] agreement with Wasatch Charter School, [24:28] their board has um approved and and [24:31] signed that as well as ours. So um we [24:35] are proposing that with the state [24:36] charter school board. Um, we also [24:39] included updating the language in our [24:41] charter agreement to reflect Waldorf [24:43] inspired per our trademark agreements. [24:46] So, I'll be attending the board meeting [24:49] for Wasatch tomorrow night just to make [24:51] sure they have all of their questions [24:53] around the articulation agreement um [24:56] answered as well as um attending the [25:00] meeting on April 9th. Um, so on April [25:03] 9th, I don't know that they will ask us [25:05] any questions, but they might ask us [25:07] questions about that. So, I plan on [25:08] being there. Um, if there is a board [25:11] member, it doesn't have to be an [25:12] officer, but if a board member would [25:14] like to also join that meeting when they [25:17] post their agenda, we should be able to [25:20] tell around what time will be on the [25:22] agenda. So, we shouldn't have to be [25:23] there for the whole day. Um, they do [25:25] also have Zoom access if um, a board [25:28] member wants to join remotely. So, um, [25:33] that's just my request. I don't need an [25:34] answer right now. Um, but I will let you [25:38] know as soon as I know what their agenda [25:40] is going to be and what time. Um, I'll forward that in an email if anybody [25:44] would like to join me, unless anybody [25:46] wants to tell me for certain that you [25:48] would like to join me right now. [25:50] >> Carol, are they do they usually start at [25:52] seven for their board meetings? Is that [25:54] like a common time? [25:55] >> Their board meetings are all day because [25:57] they're dealing with things for the [25:58] whole state. [25:59] >> Okay. Um so like this is the the same [26:02] type of board meeting where we got our [26:04] application approved where we all went [26:05] up and um had the discussion with them [26:08] in their board meeting. So um it's that [26:10] kind of thing. But we won't have to be [26:12] there the whole day. The agenda gets [26:15] posted and there's time blocks for [26:17] certain things. So we should probably be [26:19] there 30 minutes before we're scheduled [26:24] and it might go a little bit later. Um [26:26] but being there within that time block. [26:28] Um, and so we it should be like no more [26:30] than a two-hour commitment. [26:33] >> I had one more question that came up [26:34] this week in my brain. [26:36] >> Is there a way to do a charter articul [26:39] or an articulation agreement with a [26:41] homeschool group like with Honeycomb [26:43] >> because it's from one state school to [26:45] another? So it has to be um and the [26:49] rules the rules around it is from um [26:52] another because it's a charter amendment [26:54] for both us and for Wasatch and it's a [26:57] part of our charter agreements. Um and [26:59] it has to be [27:00] >> it's a charter issue. [27:02] >> Yeah. Um and so it's just a way for [27:05] charters of similar programs to be able [27:07] to work together. [27:08] >> Okay. [27:10] >> Unfortunately that's the nature. [27:13] Um, so the next thing is our U our CSP [27:16] grant update. Um, just letting the board [27:18] know that we have been sent our capacity [27:22] interview time for April 16th from 11:00 [27:24] a.m. to 2 p.m. Our five employees that [27:27] we have, myself, the registar, the [27:29] faculty head, the dean of students, and [27:31] the dean of pedigogy will be in [27:33] attendance there. We're all studying up [27:35] on that document to be able to answer [27:37] questions. Um, and we also will have the [27:41] board officers there. Um, that will be [27:44] eight people. We've also invited Alicia [27:46] Milligan as a voting member. That keeps [27:48] us from having a board quorum and having [27:50] to post it on a public meeting website. [27:53] Um, but it still gives good [27:54] representation for the CSP grant and [27:58] those that will be a part of overseeing [28:00] that. Um, we won't know the results of [28:02] the grant until April 22nd. We also feel [28:06] really really good about this [28:07] application. [28:09] Any questions about the CSP grant? [28:14] >> I'm gonna have to get a substitute [28:15] teacher if I go, [28:16] >> but I can do that. [28:18] >> Okay. [clears throat] It would be it'd [28:19] be really great if you can make that [28:20] work [28:21] >> on a Thursday. I just looked at [28:22] >> Yep. It is Thursday um from 11 to 2 p.m. [28:26] So, [28:27] >> okay. [28:28] >> Um Okay. So, marketing update. We have [28:32] billboards that are live. Um, and we get [28:34] a lot of people, we get at least one to [28:37] five people reaching out to us every day [28:38] saying, "I saw your billboard." Um, [28:40] we've I had a lady call me last week [28:42] saying, "Oh my gosh, what do you mean? [28:44] There's a Waldorf High School in Utah. I [28:47] just saw your billboard." Unfortunately, [28:48] her student is in 11th grade, but she is [28:50] super excited that we um have a presence [28:54] and she um plans on on spreading the [28:56] word. So, um, look for our billboards [28:58] along I-15 and State Street from Lehigh [29:01] to Spanish Fork. Um, and we're getting, [29:04] like I said, we're getting those [29:05] contacts. We also have a billboard [29:07] planned for the exit leading to our [29:10] school site. The first two weeks will [29:13] still be kind, it start, it goes live, I [29:15] think, um, April 6th. And um so the [29:19] first two weeks before we get the final [29:21] word of yes, we can publish the site, [29:23] it'll just be like our other billboards, [29:25] but it's a digital billboard. So as soon [29:27] as we get permission to publish the [29:28] site, that billboard will have an arrow [29:31] saying come to our building today. So [29:34] we're hoping that that will also um [29:36] build momentum. We're also working on [29:39] consistent social media campaigns. We're posting pretty much every day um [29:43] and some consistent things throughout [29:45] the week. We've been circulating flyers [29:48] throughout the communities and [29:49] businesses and public places. Everything [29:51] from Saratoga Springs and Eagle Mountain [29:52] down to PAC. Um, at least once a week, [29:55] we have someone from the office going to [29:57] these different locations to update [29:59] flyers and and keep the word out. We've [30:02] also been posting events on our website [30:03] calendar and getting our website. My the [30:06] office team has been doing some amazing [30:08] work to update the website. Um, so I'd [30:10] encourage the board to go take a look at [30:12] it. Give us feedback as we're, you know, [30:15] trying to push all of this stuff out. [30:17] Um, if there's something that's missing, [30:19] you notice a typo, just send me an email [30:21] and we'll make sure that those get [30:23] fixed. But also, please have patience as [30:25] we're doing this on top of everything [30:27] else. But the website is is coming [30:29] together and is um we're trying to make [30:32] it as as easy as possible and as [30:34] informative as possible, as well as [30:36] Waldorf as um inspired as possible. Um, [30:40] so the season is also starting for [30:43] farmers market booths. We have an event [30:46] every Saturday for the next three weeks. [30:48] Those events are on our calendar on our [30:50] website. This coming Saturday will be in [30:54] Springville at the little herb shop [30:56] there next to Maglebees on the upper [30:58] floor. And so um, that's where we start [31:01] out. the April 4th, we will be at the [31:05] University Place small um in their [31:08] little garden space there with a booth. [31:11] And then um we have a booth at the um at [31:16] BYU on the 11th of April. It's a um [31:23] it's for the homeschool community. It's [31:24] specifically resources and information [31:27] for homeschool families with the Utah [31:29] Fitzall. Um so we have anformational [31:32] booth there on that Saturday. Um [31:35] traditionally in the past the events [31:37] like this that we have been able to [31:39] attend have really increased our numbers [31:41] and we're anticipating large upticks in [31:44] our applications and enrollments [31:46] especially after that homeschool event [31:49] at BYU um to see those numbers change. [31:52] Then we have um throughout this season, [31:57] we might be emailing board members um [32:00] with a request to help us run booths [32:02] throughout the summer. Um especially in [32:04] July when a number of us will be in [32:07] training for the high school um [32:09] certification for Waldorf. Um we are [32:12] also our freshmen will uh not our [32:15] freshmen, our sophomores will still be [32:18] required to make up their freshman 32 [32:21] hours. when you spread that over three [32:22] years, it's very doable. Um, but we will [32:25] also be offering our sophomores the [32:27] opportunity to start banking some of [32:30] those work hours by helping us with [32:32] booths throughout the summer. So, they [32:34] will always have a supervisor from the [32:36] school with them at the booth. Um, and [32:38] they could get eight hours knocked out [32:40] in one day to tell people, "This is why [32:43] I'm excited to be a student at Azure [32:44] Fields." Um, so that is one option that [32:46] we'll be talking to the families about. [32:48] Um we're still continuing to do school [32:50] visits with junior highs. One of um so a [32:54] couple weeks ago I had a dad call me [32:56] from um John Hancock and he said that [32:59] his teacher had um suggested us as a [33:03] high school. He knew nothing about Azure [33:05] Fields and just wanted information. So [33:07] as I was telling him about our program [33:09] and the things that we're going to be [33:10] offering, he said numerous times, "Oh my [33:12] gosh, it's too good to be true. Really?" [33:15] And he applied immediately. So that was [33:16] our first ninth grader who applied. Um [33:19] and they're super excited to be a part [33:22] of our community and are spreading the [33:24] word there as well. Um so these efforts [33:28] are bringing things in slowly but but [33:31] they are working. Um Scholola has still [33:33] been very helpful. I feel like we would [33:36] be so much farther behind if they [33:38] weren't continuing to guide us through [33:39] best practices as we navigate these [33:42] marketing efforts. They remind us of [33:44] best practices in communications so that [33:46] we don't fatigue our families with [33:47] sending too many notifications. They [33:50] help us write um emails and campaigns [33:54] and um requests for interviews and and [33:58] setting up all of these things. They're [33:59] helping us find lists of um marketing [34:02] venues that we can um reach out to. What [34:05] are the local newspapers or local [34:06] podcasters? Um they have been a huge [34:09] support. They're also helping us make [34:11] sure that our families are contacted um [34:14] in a quality way. So I we still feel [34:16] like they are are very worth it and have [34:19] been very helpful [34:21] um in in our progress. Um we are [34:24] planning some at at Scholar Suggestion, [34:27] we're planning park meetups for the [34:29] founding cohorts, those that have [34:30] already applied, saying, "Hey, come and [34:33] meet the other families that are going [34:35] to be a part of our school." Um, and [34:38] we'll do those at local parks before we [34:41] have access to our building and then we [34:42] can do things at our building site. [34:44] We've also been asking these families to [34:46] hostformational cottage meetings with [34:48] their friends and neighbors. Um, and so [34:51] we're, you know, we're encouraging that [34:53] kind of participation. [34:55] Um, we had a cottage meeting. I don't [34:58] remember if I mentioned this, but we had [34:59] a a virtual cottage meeting uh last [35:02] week. Yeah, I think it was last week. [35:04] and seven of the of the at that point 10 [35:08] families that had enrolled um attended [35:11] that event and got their questions [35:13] answered and are super excited to be a [35:15] part of the school. Um so that was [35:18] working really well. Now the difficult [35:21] any questions on marketing before I move [35:23] on. [35:26] Um when um when people phone, do they get you, [35:32] Carol? [35:33] >> Usually. Um so we have an office phone [35:36] and um really easy number 3854561122. [35:41] Um they can text or they can call and um [35:45] it's sitting just there on the desk in [35:47] the office and so generally I'm there to [35:49] answer it. Sometimes it's the registar, [35:52] sometimes it's someone else in the [35:53] office. Um, but they they talk to one of [35:56] us and most of the time it is me. [35:59] >> And um, [36:03] and how many children are enrolled so [36:05] far? [36:06] >> That's my next getting to. Okay. [36:08] >> Yes, that's my next piece. That's what [36:09] I'm getting to. But I wanted to make [36:11] sure that all the marketing questions [36:12] were answered first. [36:16] » Okay. Enrollment. This is a little bit [36:19] more of a difficult conversation. We [36:23] have 12 students who have turned in [36:25] applications. Five of those are nth [36:27] graders and seven of them are 10th [36:28] graders. Um like I said, seven of those [36:31] families attended our cottage meeting um [36:33] and are are really excited about our [36:35] program. Um the lottery date is next [36:40] Friday, April 3rd. Um each of those [36:43] families will immediately be sent. [36:45] Here's how you enroll. You're accepted. [36:47] Um after that lottery date, we're just [36:49] in open enrollment until our spots are [36:51] filled. Um, so they're technically going [36:54] to the bottom of the wait list, which is [36:56] the top of the weight list because [36:57] there's no one ahead of them and and [36:58] they just immediately get turned around [37:00] with um invitation to um enroll. Um [37:06] our break even number to be able to open [37:09] in the fall is 125. So um if we have [37:13] less than 125 students, we don't have [37:15] enough funds to run our program. We are [37:18] supposed to have 75% of that by the end [37:22] of March and we are obviously a lot [37:26] behind with only 12. Um I did have a [37:29] conversation with Betty Amanz from the [37:32] state charter school board to give her [37:33] our progress report for March. Um the number that she had when I talked to [37:39] her two weeks ago um was eight students [37:42] enrolled. So, we're already, you know, [37:45] continuing to increase. Um, they will be [37:49] discussing us in that April 9th meeting, [37:50] which is why I want to be there in [37:52] person and I plan on taking our latest [37:54] enrollment numbers. We have two farmers [37:57] markets events, which usually have [37:59] really good results. Um, so I'm hoping [38:02] that we have enough movement that we can [38:05] show that our efforts are starting to [38:08] pay off and we are increasing those [38:11] numbers. So, if we can show that [38:13] significant enrollment over the next few [38:16] weeks um and get 125 students by the [38:20] second week of May, then the board will [38:23] be confident in approving us in June to [38:26] open in the fall. Um if we don't meet [38:30] those numbers by the second week of May, [38:32] um depending on how close we are, um we [38:37] they if we're getting really close, um [38:40] the last day that they have to approve [38:41] us to open in the fall is June 30th. So [38:44] if they think like we can it meet it in [38:46] the four months of of May, then um then [38:51] we might be able to get that little [38:52] extension. If we're too far away from [38:54] that and our numbers aren't changing [38:56] enough by the efforts that we're doing, [38:58] then um the conversation turns to what [39:00] if we defer? So, I've been talking with [39:03] Jeff at Red Apple of what does deferring [39:05] for a year look like? Um we do have [39:08] contingency plans for that. We also feel [39:11] like now is not the time to move forward [39:14] with those contingency plans, but [39:16] continue with our marketing efforts. Um [39:19] especially as the needle is starting to [39:21] rise. Um we've gone from one applicant [39:24] every couple of weeks to three to four [39:27] almost an applicant a day. Um [39:29] >> well and also we haven't been able to [39:31] advertise the location yet which is a [39:33] big issue. I think [39:34] >> I and I think that once we are able to [39:37] fully publish and have a party and um I [39:39] think as soon as we're able to we have a [39:41] party at that location saying hey here's [39:44] our location come and meet with us and fill out your application right now. [39:49] So, so I think once we're able to engage [39:51] in that way, we'll also see some [39:53] movement. So, um it is we're in a space [39:56] of difficult conversations, but it's not [39:59] in a space of hopelessness. It's not in [40:02] a space of um we don't think you're [40:04] going to work out. [40:07] I have a question. I saw a petition for [40:10] including seventh and eighth graders. Is [40:11] that one of the contingency plans to [40:13] hopefully get intendance like numbers [40:16] where they need to be? that is um the second most um frequent question [40:22] that we get is when we can add that [40:23] seventh and eighth grade. Um and so we [40:26] did listen to our community and we did [40:29] everything that we could to to vet that [40:31] process out. So um talked to the state [40:34] office, the um state charter school [40:36] board and and looked at all of the [40:38] options. We tried to get as many people [40:40] on that list as possible. Um the answer [40:44] is that that decision is dictated by um [40:47] the state legislature in the law as well [40:49] as board rule and it is a two-year [40:52] process to add those grades. Um so the [40:56] absolute cernest that we could possibly [41:00] do that is to add one of those grades in [41:04] our second year of operation as a small [41:07] expansion which would be one grade level [41:09] less than 100 students. Um, part of me [41:12] feels like we go ahead and try for that [41:16] a little bit. Um, especially if our [41:18] numbers are able to increase like we [41:20] want them to, the decision would be, are [41:22] we going to add eighth graders or [41:23] seventh graders in that second year? [41:25] Where do we have the most interest? So, [41:27] we need to still collect information [41:29] from our community on that. The deadline [41:32] for that application is July 1st, I [41:35] think. um they will review that request [41:38] in August and then we have that school [41:41] year to work on getting those [41:44] enrollments for that extra class that we [41:45] will be adding in our second year. So [41:47] our second year would be adding 11th [41:49] graders in addition to seventh or [41:51] eighth, whatever we choose. Um if we do [41:54] both of them together, it's a large [41:56] expansion and it's pretty much the same [41:58] process as our original application to [42:02] be a charter school. Um, so it would be [42:05] like filling out the full application [42:06] and sending it into the board. They [42:08] approve those I think in February, [42:10] sometimes March. Um, and then you have [42:11] your pre-operational year um before you [42:15] implement that change to make sure that [42:16] you can get the enrollment for those [42:18] classes. Um, so it and it also sounded [42:22] like there there's no exception to this [42:25] as well as um a feeling from the board [42:28] especially since our enrollment numbers [42:30] are so low at this moment. um why don't [42:33] you prove that you can execute the plan [42:37] that you originally came to us with um [42:39] before you try and change things is kind [42:41] of the feeling. So it feels like um even [42:45] though I think we might try adding [42:46] seventh grade in the second year [42:48] especially if our numbers look good um [42:51] but they probably won't accept a large [42:54] expansion until our fourth year of [42:58] operation. So um that process would be [43:01] in our third year we would start that [43:04] application um it would get approved in [43:07] the spring of our fourth year in order [43:11] to be effective in our fifth year. [43:13] >> That's a bummer. [43:14] >> Yeah, [43:14] >> it is. [43:15] >> And and just circumstance of when we [43:18] started we had a direct feeder with one [43:20] of our schools and in the interim like [43:24] starting [43:26] program [43:26] >> we lost that. So [43:28] >> yeah. Are you talking about MSA? [43:30] >> Yeah. [43:30] My kids go to that school and I'm [43:32] like, "Okay, do I homeschool?" Cuz what [43:34] choices do we have? We have to put them [43:36] into a random public school for two [43:38] years and then like hopefully Anyways, [43:41] >> and and one of the things with our our [43:43] current ninth graders is that some of [43:45] those students um that had to then go to [43:47] a different school to fill in the gap [43:49] are now less interested in changing [43:52] again. So, [43:53] >> yeah, of course. Yeah. Because it's like [43:55] another big change, right? Those like [43:56] truly hard [43:58] Exactly. Exactly. So that's part of the [44:02] unfortunate truth and and so part of us [44:05] it feels like it would be completely [44:07] logical to say but we're feing filling [44:10] this need in our community. [44:11] >> Yeah. And like arguably like I know like [44:14] if we're really dealing with like law [44:15] and legislation that takes a lot of time [44:17] to change. So maybe it's like totally [44:19] just wasting our breath here. But I [44:22] think that almost seems like the most [44:25] natural place to scoop up a lot of [44:26] people really fast is to do the seventh [44:28] and eighth grade piece and then maybe [44:30] pick up 11th grade. That's just my [44:31] opinion. [44:32] >> Yeah. [44:33] >> But um so that is that is what it is. [44:36] That's [44:37] >> honeycomb has a seventh and eighth. [44:39] >> Oh, does it? Okay. Well, [44:41] >> I'm teaching seventh next year. [44:43] >> Okay. I'm gonna put on my homeschool hat [44:46] if I don't do that. [laughter] [44:48] >> Well, it's only one. We teach three days [44:51] a week and then we have parents with one [44:52] day a week. So, [44:53] >> perfect. Are there any other um [44:56] questions about enrollment or about this [44:59] process [45:02] about the expectations? [45:03] >> I am I put um this is a marketing thing. [45:07] I put your flyer on the Ponia message [45:10] board and the HotK message board. [45:13] Somebody wants to go they've got teens [45:15] and they they want a school, you know. [45:18] >> I love it. Yeah. Um we if any [45:21] >> know if anybody calls. [45:23] >> Okay. Um if any of you So Carrie has [45:26] been coming and picking up flyers and we've been helping her um with with [45:30] her contacts in her community. So if any [45:32] of the board members want to do that in [45:34] your local location, we can email you a [45:36] flyer. We can send you a stack of [45:38] printed flyers. Um I will drive up to [45:41] you and deliver them. Um, so any efforts [45:45] that that you um any ideas that you [45:48] have, just reach out and say, "Hey, have [45:49] we thought about doing this?" And um [45:52] >> um tomorrow night there's an event at [45:54] MSA for the fifth graders. So I don't [45:57] know if there's anybody in this area [45:58] that could drop off a stack, but I think [46:00] you'll get a good chunk of people there [46:03] tomorrow at 5 [46:05] >> willing to do it. Are you presenting at [46:08] MSA at to well just at the like the [46:11] sixth graders just [46:12] >> Yeah, we've been engaging with them. [46:13] We've been meeting up and and dropping [46:16] off flyers and and different things. [46:18] >> Okay. [46:19] >> So, [46:19] >> and then um Miss Milligan um can you uh [46:24] go to a Waldorf school for seven and [46:26] eight? [46:28] >> I don't think there is one right here [46:30] for seventh and eight. They used to have [46:33] >> at Mount Funrise [clears throat] [46:34] Academy. They used to have it, but they [46:36] dropped it from lack of interest. And I [46:38] think it's because there wasn't a [46:39] Waldorf High School. And so parents [46:41] stopped um having hoped that there would [46:43] be one. And so maybe they would have [46:46] voted differently, but it was by vote. [46:47] They chose not to have seventh and [46:50] eighth grade. [46:52] >> Shame. [46:54] >> Seventh and eighth are great years. [46:56] They're my favorite years. [46:58] >> Mine too. [47:01] Um I I'm really excited to be able to [47:04] add that part in our school. That has [47:06] been a part of my um my my plan and [47:10] vision from the beginning. Um and so [47:14] we'll just follow our process and and do [47:16] the best we can. [47:18] >> Yep. [47:18] >> Um okay. So the last thing that I have [47:21] is um hiring updates. We have posted our [47:26] core positions and and have been doing [47:28] interviews. um the number of faculty [47:30] members is inextricably tied to the [47:33] number of student enrollments that we [47:35] have. So um it it everything seems to be [47:40] kind of bottlenecking right now on on [47:42] this enrollment but but we have to move [47:43] forward and and prepare for faculty um [47:46] so that [47:48] um the best people aren't swept swept up [47:50] before we interview. So um it's been [47:52] going really well. We are being very [47:54] transparent in the interviews about [47:56] being a startup school and what that [47:58] means about how enrollment impacts the [48:01] hiring process. We are looking for core [48:04] teachers who can teach multiple grade [48:06] levels at once and also pick up elective [48:08] courses in our first year. Um we also [48:11] have to be aware of state licensing [48:14] options and and making sure that we're following all of those. If a [48:18] teacher has a state a Utah state [48:20] license, um, then we we get an extra [48:24] $10,000 to put towards their salary, um, [48:27] and and so that really helps us to be [48:29] able to pay them the competitive [48:30] salaries that you guys approved on the [48:32] salary schedule. Um, so those are some [48:34] things that that we have to consider. [48:36] Um, we're also looking for teachers who [48:38] will be committed to staying um for [48:41] multiple years and building a strong [48:43] cohort of teachers that will support new [48:46] teachers coming in every year. Um, so, [48:48] you know, starting with only five to [48:51] seven teachers and then adding another [48:53] five to seven teachers, all of a sudden [48:55] our culture could get weird if that core [48:59] cohort um isn't isn't strong. We have a [49:02] lot of things in place with the Waldorf [49:04] workshops and the um professional [49:06] development and and the support through [49:08] our Dina pedigogy and and lectures and things coming in. Um and so that's [49:14] what we're looking for in our candidates [49:15] and and we've been really pleased. So um [49:18] we're also working on the offer letters [49:21] and onboarding process and um uh what [49:26] the contracts look like. Um, so we're [49:29] still finalizing that before we we send [49:32] those um final things out. Um, and it's [49:35] pretty standard. The the the offer [49:38] letter and the contract will state their [49:41] salary clearly um and their benefits and [49:43] their responsibilities as a teacher. Um, [49:49] anything else that I have about that? [49:51] Um, just some statistics about the [49:53] applicants. We've had a total of 30 [49:54] applicants as of today. We I think we [49:57] might and typically we're getting you [49:59] know two or three additional applicants [50:01] a day. Um across all of our postings [50:04] we've posted math, science, English, [50:07] social studies, and PE. [50:10] Um we've had um half of the applicants [50:13] have been history teachers. [50:16] So we've interviewed a lot of history [50:18] teachers. Um three to five of those have [50:20] been applicants for English. We've only [50:22] had two math applicants, but I think a [50:24] third one came in today. Um and um three [50:28] to five for science. We also had about [50:31] 10 applicants for PE. Um so we're about [50:34] halfway through the those initial people [50:36] in our interviews and and scheduling [50:38] more interviews over the next couple of [50:40] weeks. Many of them have already come to [50:43] our Saturday workshop and and we have 11 [50:46] or 12 of them coming this Saturday. Um [50:49] and that has been really successful. um [50:51] working with these new teachers and they [50:53] go, "Oh my goodness, I'm so excited to [50:55] be a part of this because now I know." [50:57] And then some of them are like, "Oh, [50:58] well, I'm going to work for a job [50:59] somewhere else because it's not a good [51:01] fit." So, it's been a really great part [51:02] of that process since we can't have them [51:04] come into our classrooms um for them to [51:08] get a kind of picture of that. We have [51:11] told the participants that we've [51:12] interviewed so far. Um that we're trying [51:15] to make final hiring decisions for the [51:18] first four core teachers because we'll [51:20] have to have a minimum of four. Um so [51:22] that first selection will happen around [51:25] midappril as we're able to finalize the [51:28] lease, see what the enrollment trends [51:30] are. Um we'll offer those positions. Um, [51:33] we've also told the applicants that if [51:35] our enrollment numbers increase, we [51:37] might offer second choice applicants an [51:40] opportunity um later in May or in the [51:43] summer as we need more positions. So, [51:46] um, we've also let the applicants know [51:48] that we are filling positions for the [51:50] whole high school and they may be [51:52] invited for a position they didn't apply [51:54] for. Um we actually have um one of our [51:58] applicants was really excellent for both [52:01] PE as well as facilities and [52:03] maintenance. Um we had um someone with [52:08] um [52:11] uh sorry my mind went blank. Um special [52:14] education um as well as u mentoring and leadership um and has um really [52:21] great potential um future in our school. [52:24] um as well as possibly an aid and [52:27] permanent substitute. Um so we're [52:29] looking for kind of what are some of the [52:31] whole needs of our school that we would [52:33] need um to be able to fill from from [52:36] this pool. So that's our progress to [52:39] hiring. Are there any questions um about [52:42] hiring? [52:43] >> Yeah. I just wanted to give you some [52:45] advice. Mhm. [52:48] >> Um, [52:49] if you're interviewing someone, they got [52:51] a great resume. While they're talking, [52:54] spill a glass of water on the table. If [52:58] they carry on talking while you're [53:00] trying to wipe up the thing, ditch them [53:03] immediately. [53:04] >> Right. [laughter] [53:07] Absolutely. Um, so just a little bit [53:09] about the interview process. It's not [53:11] just me. Um it's um at least two or [53:14] three of us on the administrative team [53:16] um depending on who's available around [53:18] our other meetings. Um so typically it's [53:20] myself, our dean of pedigogy and our [53:22] dean of students. Um Chalice has also [53:24] stepped in as the faculty department [53:26] head um as we interview. So it's it's [53:29] always at least two or three of us in a [53:31] panel um and getting multiple [53:34] perspectives on this person um and [53:36] asking them questions from multiple [53:38] angles. And then we discuss the [53:40] applicant afterwards. We discuss um [53:43] their strengths and weaknesses, what the [53:44] impressions we had from the interview um [53:47] as well as how we think that person [53:50] would fit with the other people that [53:51] we're considering. So, it's a little bit [53:53] for for me as a as a theater director [53:57] background. It's it's similar to casting [53:59] that you're considering this position, [54:01] but it's not in a silo. Um we have to [54:03] consider how will they work with the [54:05] other people that we're considering. Um, [54:07] and as we interview each new applicant, [54:09] it kind of changes the picture of the [54:10] whole piece that we're looking at so [54:12] that we can have a strong cohesive [54:14] faculty. Um, and some of our initial [54:18] interviews that we're like, okay, we [54:19] really like this one. We want to hold on [54:20] to them. And as we interview other [54:22] people, um, we consider their position a [54:24] little bit differently as as we get more [54:26] information. So, that's what that hiring [54:29] piece looks like and that's what those [54:30] considerations are looking like. Um and [54:33] as we um prepare to um invite those [54:38] people to apply, we'll keep the board [54:40] informed um on on that so that you'll know about these people. [54:47] >> I have a question, Carol. [54:48] >> Uh um you can have an extremely [54:51] excellent wonderful teacher but not have [54:53] them be have the heart for [54:55] >> Waldorf. [54:57] >> Um how do you feel like we are [54:59] attracting the right teachers? Are they [55:01] mostly people that are kind of are on [55:04] board with that? Do you feel like you [55:06] could actually fill those seats pretty [55:08] easily at this point? Yes. Okay. [55:10] >> Yeah. So, um since we are requiring them [55:13] to come to this workshop um that has [55:16] been super helpful. Um the workshop [55:19] includes um a little circle time. I [55:21] teach them a song which is uncomfortable [55:23] for some of them and um and we do the [55:26] teacher verse at the beginning and and [55:28] we talk about the importance of these [55:29] things in the work that we do and that [55:31] there's kind of an expectation that [55:32] these things will be included in what [55:34] you do. Um we also have a mini lecture [55:37] on the developmental stage of the it's [55:40] kind of the whole human being and um the [55:43] different parts of the human being and [55:45] how we see ourselves and our students [55:48] from a Waldorf perspective. um [55:50] >> the three-fold and four-fold aspect of [55:52] the human being. Yes. [55:53] >> Uhuh. Um kind beautifully by [55:56] >> Veronica. [55:57] Yes, that's right. [55:59] >> So, so it gives them like this is the [56:01] type of conversations we're going to be [56:02] having. This is the type of professional [56:04] development you're going to be a part [56:05] of. Um then also Susan helps them does [56:08] the chalk drawing workshop. And so [56:11] they're they're getting these pieces and [56:13] understanding that there's this [56:14] expectation that I will have a [56:15] chalkboard that I have to draw on. and so um I think that has been a great [56:20] help in that process for them to really [56:22] understand who we are and what we are. [56:25] Our website has been super helpful. Um [56:27] the the people at the top of our list um [56:30] hands down like a lot of them they're [56:31] like I've never heard of Waldorf before [56:33] but I saw this on your website and I [56:35] thought it was really cool and this part [56:37] of the workshop was really helpful to [56:39] me. Um, so we don't really consider any [56:42] of them without [56:45] um looking at them both in the workshop [56:47] and in the um interview. So we're [56:50] putting those things together. Um, and [56:52] of course checking references and and [56:54] calling up and seeing what other [56:55] people's experience has been with them. [56:58] >> Thank you. [56:59] >> Yeah. Any other questions about hiring? [57:02] >> Very sorry. [57:03] >> Yeah, I'm I'm jumping back. I just [57:07] couldn't figure out when to fit this in. [57:09] But I just wanted to mention that they [57:12] like the admin staff has a bunch of [57:15] really great flyers that are a digital [57:18] version as well. So like if you guys are [57:22] willing to put that on your social media [57:24] or send that out to your contacts or use [57:27] those digital flyers as well, I think [57:29] that's a really great way to spread the [57:31] word. [57:34] Just wanted to [57:36] >> for that. [57:36] >> Are those the ones from the email that [57:38] was were sent out? [57:39] >> There's more. There's multiple. [57:42] >> I haven't I haven't received any of [57:44] those. [57:44] >> Are Well, we don't generally we don't [57:47] just blast them out because we are [57:48] developing like three flyers a week to [57:50] be just on top of rotating and and new [57:53] information. Um, so if you specifically [57:56] want a flyer, we're happy to get them to [57:58] you, but just know that we're we're just [57:59] constantly moving. Um, and and go on [58:04] this. [58:05] >> Okay. Um, Clint just [58:07] >> I just made one. Sorry. [58:09] >> Oh, go ahead. [58:11] I just I wanted one that like fit what [58:14] was important to me to share with like [58:16] my contacts and so I just made one with [58:19] chat GPT which is kind of silly but um [58:24] it [58:24] >> a little ironic with a Walder school. [58:26] >> Turned out really well though. So I'm [58:29] happy to send that to you guys. [58:30] >> Could you send it to me? [58:32] >> Yeah, I would be glad to. I'll just send [58:35] it to the [58:36] >> Did you get the one that finished [58:38] updating? Yes, Chalice update. Chalice [58:41] did a some final tweaks on me on it for [58:44] me [snorts] [58:46] because I don't have any skills. So, it [58:48] turned out really well. [58:49] >> Carrie Carrie, this is Mart. I'd be [58:52] interested in getting that flyer, too. [58:55] >> I'll just send it to um to the whole [58:58] >> to the board. [58:59] >> Yeah, to the whole board in our group [59:03] text. [59:04] >> Sounds good. Thanks. You're so welcome. [59:08] >> Carol, did you say Clint's now here with [59:10] us? [59:10] >> Oh, yes. I see him here with us and [59:12] Marta is now here with us. So, I don't [59:14] know where you want to get back to in [59:16] your um agenda. We had to skip some [59:19] things until we had a quorum. So, [59:21] >> let's go to Clint first so that he can [59:24] leave the meeting and then we'll do the [59:25] review of the minutes and other voting [59:27] after he's left. Um and if he has a [59:30] message to bring to us. [59:35] Okay. Um I just wanted to give a brief [59:38] update on the building. Um and I don't [59:40] have much more than I had in the last [59:41] board meeting other than um I think I [59:45] have passed on to kind of the committee [59:47] that um UKCast is still on board. Um but [59:53] they are sensitive to um trying to save [59:58] as much uh I think one they're trying to [1:00:00] avoid a hassle on their end and two [1:00:02] they're trying to pass savings on to you [1:00:04] know Azure fields and what that means [1:00:06] though is that they have asked for kind [1:00:08] of this space in March to to not come [1:00:11] with any formal agreement because their [1:00:13] contractual obligation ends on April 1 [1:00:17] and then I think they would like to kind [1:00:19] of formalize this. I know that is not [1:00:21] wished for. March has been a big month [1:00:23] as far as everything you're talking [1:00:24] about. Um but I haven't Yeah, I just [1:00:28] kind of have to respect their autonomy, [1:00:30] too. I guess we haven't been able to get [1:00:31] them to move off that. Um but they uh [1:00:36] you know, they're kind of still there. [1:00:37] So, I do expect them to be agreeable to [1:00:40] the lease as it's been described uh in [1:00:43] kind of our previous meeting for that [1:00:45] building. I also expect them to be [1:00:47] agreeable to kind of some access in [1:00:49] April and May and all through the summer [1:00:50] as far as uh you know kind of afternoon [1:00:53] and evenings into the building. Um as [1:00:55] well as uh some office space um even [1:00:58] during the day. Um [clears throat] we [1:01:02] are our our team is running some we're [1:01:04] going to do some discovery on uh the [1:01:06] cost to uh change the sign out. Um we [1:01:11] were kind of braced for something I [1:01:13] think between 20 and you know $40,000. [1:01:16] Um but other than that there's really [1:01:18] not much need in the building. I think [1:01:19] there's a for those of you who've been [1:01:21] in the building there's kind of a green [1:01:23] stripe through the building because [1:01:24] that's their current school color. Just [1:01:25] one simple very probably two foot you [1:01:29] know wide green stripe through the [1:01:31] hallways. You could just convert that to [1:01:34] a blue stripe. And quite frankly you you [1:01:36] wouldn't even have to. But other than [1:01:38] that, it really is probably a turnkey [1:01:40] building. We also don't know exactly how [1:01:42] much furniture and fixtures and [1:01:44] equipment they're planning to leave [1:01:46] totally yet, but um uh you know, [1:01:49] considering you know, maybe the the more [1:01:52] targeted enrollment. Um you know, I'm I [1:01:55] hold a higher optimism that perhaps, you [1:01:58] know, you'll have essentially what you [1:02:00] need in that building, but I don't know [1:02:02] that answer yet. So we'll [1:02:05] >> So we can't put the signage up till till [1:02:07] like June or something till they're [1:02:09] gone. Is that or [1:02:10] >> No, no, no. Till sorry. It would be [1:02:13] April 1 when their engagement with their [1:02:15] current listing brokerage is over. [1:02:18] >> Okay. [1:02:18] >> So I would think sometime now I can't [1:02:20] tell you April 2nd, but sometime I would [1:02:23] hope in the days following that. [1:02:25] >> Okay, great. That's good. [1:02:27] >> And they have already public. Yeah, [1:02:29] they've already agreed that we can put [1:02:30] up signs that say future home of Azure [1:02:33] High School. Um, as far as like fully [1:02:36] switching out their sign, probably not [1:02:37] until June. Um, but it'll [1:02:40] >> but maybe banners or something like a [1:02:42] Okay. [1:02:43] >> Sure. Banners. I frankly I don't think, [1:02:46] you know, considering the growth that's [1:02:48] going to have to come to open this fall, [1:02:50] I I don't think it would be appropriate [1:02:51] to take funds and, you know, do that [1:02:54] until you know you're going to be [1:02:55] operating. So, even if it was the start [1:02:57] of the year was a vinyl sign and it [1:02:59] converted over, you know, whatever. I [1:03:01] But I mean, you know, you'll you'll be certified by June 30th or you [1:03:05] won't. So, I think between July and [1:03:07] August, you know, there could be a [1:03:09] [clears throat] sign that would be ready [1:03:10] for the opening of school or within the [1:03:11] first few weeks, but certainly you could [1:03:14] put some vinyl signs on on the building. [1:03:17] >> Okay, [1:03:18] >> that's great. We're also planning a um [1:03:21] kind of ribbon cutting big event on [1:03:24] Saturday, August 1st. Uh a big come um [1:03:28] final setup of the building if there any [1:03:30] of that that might need to happen. Um [1:03:32] and and just kind of a big celebration [1:03:34] on August 1st before our teachers come [1:03:36] in on 3 um ribbon cutting kind of kind [1:03:39] of thing. [1:03:40] >> Okay. [1:03:43] >> All right. [1:03:43] >> I just wanted to confirm. So, [1:03:46] will we be able to share the location [1:03:48] after the 1st of or the 2nd of April? Is [1:03:51] that what you said? [1:03:53] >> Yeah, that's what Okay. Yes, we we know [1:03:55] you need to do that. And so, we're I [1:03:58] don't have a date from them. Um because [1:04:00] when I spoke with them, they said, you [1:04:02] know, we don't know it can be the second [1:04:03] because that maybe doesn't pass the [1:04:05] smell test. But I really think we've got [1:04:07] to push for some days after that. So, [1:04:09] um, you know, even if we don't have a [1:04:11] contractual agreement that first week, I [1:04:13] think I you've got to go public with [1:04:15] this and get that out there. So, that is [1:04:17] the the absolute goal, Carrie, is to try [1:04:20] >> my kind of ideal possible [1:04:22] >> would be if we could on the lottery date [1:04:25] meet at that lo I even if it I because I [1:04:29] think it might be their spring break and [1:04:31] if they're not in the building and [1:04:32] they're let willing to let us like, hey, [1:04:34] here's our live lottery. Everybody come [1:04:36] here's your application. fill it out [1:04:38] right now. Here's your enrollment [1:04:39] packet. Fill it out right now. Um just [1:04:41] get get those things going would be my [1:04:43] ideal. Um I don't know if they'll let us [1:04:45] do that. Um otherwise probably April 6th [1:04:48] on that Monday um is is my backup plan [1:04:52] for those postings, but [1:04:54] >> Okay. [1:04:54] >> Yeah, [1:04:55] >> great. Just they hopefully they [1:04:58] understand that we we kind of need to [1:05:01] get that out as soon as possible. Mhm. [1:05:04] >> Yep. [1:05:05] I think they do and they're very [1:05:07] empathetic to this. They they they're [1:05:09] also a high school. They also, you know, [1:05:11] understand the challenges with [1:05:12] enrollment. Um yeah, I think they're a [1:05:15] good partner in that way. [1:05:19] >> Okay. Uh could we [1:05:21] >> could we move forward? [1:05:23] >> Oh, okay. [1:05:25] >> Yeah, you bet. No, appreciate you guys. [1:05:27] Just we'll keep moving ahead. Is that [1:05:29] all you need me for? [1:05:30] >> I think so. [1:05:32] >> Okay. Thanks all. [1:05:33] >> Okay. [1:05:35] Um we let's move forward with our review [1:05:38] and with our um our vote on the minutes [1:05:40] the February 17th and the 26th while we [1:05:44] have our quorum here. Um is there [1:05:48] someone who could move to approve the [1:05:50] February 17th minutes that we've read [1:05:53] that Sarah has has um has summarized for [1:05:57] us? Is there someone on the board who [1:05:59] could move to approve those? [1:06:02] I move to approve the minutes for [1:06:04] February 7. [1:06:05] >> Okay. And [1:06:07] >> I second the motion. [1:06:09] >> Thank you, Martha. [1:06:11] >> February 17th. [1:06:13] >> Let's have a vote then. If you could [1:06:15] have we could have hands raised or or [1:06:17] the icon that I could see everyone. [1:06:22] Um there we go. Marta. [1:06:26] Carrie, do you have a hand? Carrie, [1:06:29] there we go. I see it now. And Sarah, [1:06:32] >> let me let me see if I can get Alicia's [1:06:35] vote. She did have to step out, but if [1:06:37] she can. [1:06:37] >> Okay. [1:06:38] >> Um, [1:06:40] >> do we have our quorum already, though? [1:06:42] >> I think we still have [1:06:43] >> We have Carrie and we have Carrie and [1:06:45] CJ, but you just want to have her part [1:06:47] of it. [1:06:48] >> Yeah. [1:06:48] >> All right, I understand. So, I have [1:06:52] myself, Sarah, Marta, Christian, [1:06:57] Carrie. She was here to review it, so [1:06:59] she should be able to [1:07:01] >> give [1:07:02] >> input on that. [1:07:04] >> I'll let you know when her vote comes [1:07:05] in. [laughter] [1:07:06] >> Okay. [1:07:06] >> And I can always update later with her [1:07:08] game. [1:07:08] >> So, we have a unanimous of our quorum [1:07:10] anyway. So, we can move forward then. Do [1:07:13] I have someone who could who could um [1:07:15] move to approve our February 26 minutes [1:07:18] as summarized by Sarah to this evening? [1:07:27] I move to approve the February 26th [1:07:29] minutes. [1:07:30] >> Thank you, Marta. Do we have a second? [1:07:32] Someone who's can second that motion to [1:07:35] approve the minutes for February 26th. [1:07:42] » Sarah is raising her hand to vote. [1:07:44] >> Oh, there it is. [1:07:46] >> Thank you. Okay, let's let's have a vote [1:07:49] on the February 26 minutes. [1:07:52] hands raised or an icon. All right, we [1:07:56] have myself, Sarah, Marta, Christian, [1:08:01] Carrie, [1:08:03] Issa. Okay, and we'll add in Alicia if [1:08:08] she comes back with us. All right. Um, I [1:08:12] believe the only other motion we have to [1:08:14] make is to end our meeting. So, how does [1:08:17] that, Carol? Does that square with what [1:08:19] you're looking at? [1:08:19] >> Um, I think so. There wasn't a whole lot [1:08:22] of business to actually conduct on this. [1:08:24] >> Not this not this time. [1:08:26] >> Information and update. [1:08:27] >> Oh, we just have a quick note uh about [1:08:30] our our [1:08:31] >> our finance committee. [1:08:32] Yes. [1:08:35] >> Um so, Marta, um based on our last [1:08:38] conversation, um we're just still on [1:08:40] budget. Um I did want to share with the [1:08:42] board that we got notice of the [1:08:44] revolving loan. Um, that email said, [1:08:48] "Azerfield Charter High School applied [1:08:50] for a charter school revolving loan on [1:08:51] December 16th, 2025. As you will recall [1:08:54] from the committee meeting, all eleas [1:08:56] were asked if they would be willing to [1:08:57] accept less than they applied for due to [1:09:00] limits of funds and a large pool of [1:09:01] applicants. Azure fields initially [1:09:03] applied for 300,000. Today, the USB [1:09:05] board approved a loan in the amount of [1:09:07] 200,000. We will reach [snorts] out [1:09:09] shortly with a promisory note requiring [1:09:11] signature. Once the promisory note is [1:09:13] signed by both USB and Azure Fields, [1:09:15] dispersement of funds should occur [1:09:17] within two weeks. Um so that was dated [1:09:20] March 12th. Um, I think that promisory [1:09:24] note is coming in the mail and so I've [1:09:26] been working with our office staff to [1:09:28] keep an eye on that document and we as [1:09:32] soon as we get that signed we will have [1:09:34] the additional um 200,000 [1:09:37] um in our um in our bank account. So [1:09:41] that's the progress on the revolving [1:09:43] loan. We still have um a balance of over [1:09:47] 60,000 in our um bank account from the [1:09:51] startup grant and so we're on budget and [1:09:54] should be totally fine um as those funds [1:09:58] hit our account. [1:10:00] >> Um is that loan um only for uh [1:10:04] buildings? [1:10:05] >> No, it's actually um not for buildings. [1:10:08] um that loan um in that application that [1:10:11] the the board approved the budget for [1:10:13] that loan um a few months ago and um I [1:10:17] in December um so we put things on there [1:10:20] like um a few computers um the [1:10:23] additional office staff that that we've [1:10:26] hired um their salaries actually come [1:10:28] out of that loan amount um so [1:10:31] >> I mean 200,000 [1:10:34] >> yes so out of that 200,000 we're we're [1:10:37] buying supplies we're doing marketing. [1:10:39] We're doing so there's other things. So [1:10:41] even though we haven't gotten those [1:10:42] funds yet, the budgets at the end um [1:10:45] just say this much money came in for [1:10:47] these things. This much money went out [1:10:50] kind of regardless of when those funds [1:10:51] came in. Um so we're keeping those on [1:10:55] budget for the startup grant that we [1:10:58] received. There is an accounting um at [1:11:01] the end of the year of what we used [1:11:03] those funds for. Um and and so we have [1:11:07] to align all of the budget codes to the [1:11:09] budget that we originally um sent in to [1:11:12] the state. Um so we'll have those [1:11:14] documents in the June meeting for the [1:11:16] board to reconcile the budget and and [1:11:18] work on that as well as approve the [1:11:20] budget for the next year. Um the [1:11:22] revolving loan, we told them this is our [1:11:24] plan for using the funds, but there's no [1:11:27] return accounting of we had to use those [1:11:30] funds in those ways. So they know that [1:11:33] we have a plan for using this money. We [1:11:35] do need this money to meet our plans. Um [1:11:38] but ultimately we get to use that [1:11:40] 200,000 however we need to um to fill in [1:11:44] the gaps. [1:11:46] >> But it's still a loan. [1:11:48] >> It's a loan that we start paying back [1:11:50] next spring at a really good interest [1:11:53] rate. [1:11:55] >> Thanks for giving that, Carol. [1:11:57] >> Yeah. and and those loan payments are [1:11:59] figured in all of our budgets. Um, so [1:12:03] >> Okay, [1:12:04] >> good. [1:12:07] >> Okay, I'm going to read the closing [1:12:08] verse for our board meeting tonight. The [1:12:11] healthy social life is found when in the [1:12:14] mirror of each human soul, the whole [1:12:16] community finds its reflection and when [1:12:19] in the community the ver the virtue of [1:12:22] each one is living. Rudolph Steiner. [1:12:26] And can I have someone um propose to [1:12:28] adjourn our meeting this evening? [1:12:33] » I propose. [1:12:34] >> Thank you, Lisa. And a second second the [1:12:37] motion to adjourn our meeting this [1:12:38] evening. [1:12:39] >> I Carrie can second that. [1:12:41] >> Thank you. Let's do our vote, please. [1:12:44] Hands up or icons three. [1:12:48] We have [1:12:50] Christian [1:12:53] Marta and we still don't have Alicia [1:12:55] back. [1:12:56] >> No. Um, but I will let Sarah know what [1:13:00] her final vote is. I assume that she [1:13:02] would approve the minutes. Um, so I'll [1:13:04] just forward that information when it [1:13:05] comes in that can be added to the [1:13:06] minutes. Um, and I'm sure she would [1:13:08] approve to adjourn the meeting. [1:13:10] >> For adjourn the meeting. And thank you [1:13:12] all so much again for coming tonight. [1:13:14] And thank you Marta for for coming in [1:13:16] and Fisa for coming in when it was a [1:13:19] little bit difficult with this change of [1:13:21] our time. I really appreciate you both. [1:13:23] >> Thank you. [1:13:24] >> Okay. Thank you everybody. [1:13:25] >> So have a good evening everyone. [1:13:28] >> Thank you board. [1:13:29] >> Bye. Thank you board. [1:13:30] >> Bye. Keep up the good work.