[4:46] >> Recording in progress. Good [4:47] evening. I'd like to call to [4:48] order the special special City [4:49] Council meeting Tuesday, [4:54] DECEMBER 16th 2025 we are here [4:56] this evening with city manager [4:56] Blair King city clerk [5:01] Christine Brown then Debra and [5:02] and see click. Would you [5:03] please call the Yes. Thank [5:04] you, mayor Christine Brown [5:05] city clerk, please state for [5:07] the record. If you're present [5:08] after I call your name mayor [5:10] Matthews present deputy mayor [5:10] Quinton. [5:11] >> PRESIDENT. The council [5:15] member Johnson present topless [5:16] present councilmember more [5:17] waukee PRESIDENT Councilmember [5:20] Schneider present. And let's [5:29] do the pledge of allegiance. [5:30] The flag. [5:31] >> The United States of [5:32] America and to Republic for [5:35] which it stands. One nation [5:36] under GOD, indivisible, with [5:41] liberty and justice for all. [5:41] >> And I'm going to say [5:44] commissioner and [5:44] acknowledgement every part of [5:45] the soil is secret in the [5:49] estimation of my people. Every [5:50] hillside, every Valley, every [5:51] planning group has been [5:52] hollowed hallowed by some sad [5:53] or happy event in days long [5:56] vanished, chief Seattle, 1854 [5:57] we would like to begin by [5:58] acknowledging that the land on [5:59] which we gather is within the [6:01] ancestral territory of the su [6:01] clouds. People of clear salt [6:03] water supply. People expert [6:08] fishermen builders basket [6:09] weavers. The Cyclone live in [6:10] harmony with the lands and [6:10] waterways along Washington [6:11] central Salish sea as they [6:14] have for thousands of years [6:15] here. Clubs live in protected [6:18] lands and waters of their [6:19] ancestors for future [6:20] generations as promised by the [6:26] point. Eliot treaty of 1855. [6:30] And approve our agenda. [6:34] Councilmember Matthew thank [6:34] you. [6:35] >> I am moved to approve [6:35] denies business agenda meeting [6:39] PRESIDENT. [6:40] >> a second. Thank you. So [6:41] motion made by councilmember [6:42] Milwaukee seconded by [6:43] councilor Fancher Johnson. All [6:45] those in favor aye. Are there [6:46] any conflicts of interest this [7:00] evening. I can't even look at [7:03] >> Only only in a matter of [7:06] taste. Seeing We'll move on to [7:12] public comment. Is there [7:17] anyone online. Then we're on [7:21] to regular business item for a [7:22] city manager. [7:24] >> yes, the item before you is [7:25] the selection or the direction [7:27] to me to enter into the [7:30] contractor behalf with an [7:30] executive recruiting firm [7:33] profit company is to recommend [7:34] it for just background that [7:35] will turn over to the members [7:41] of the subcommittee. You You [7:41] prepare solicitation for [7:42] executive recurring service. [7:45] We prepare that solicitation. [7:47] Provided through a number of [7:47] channels of both be provided [7:51] directly to firms that we knew [7:52] operated. We presided to [7:56] national City manager [7:57] Association. So station were [7:58] shunted cities also and posted [8:00] on our website response the [8:04] substation we received a total [8:05] of 8 responses. And I would [8:09] consider that a good response. [8:09] The response is all just to [8:11] the firm's Bob Murray ends Bob [8:16] ref tell us gmp consultants [8:18] reffitt Associates Harris [8:18] consulting cough and [8:20] Associates profit. Ralph [8:25] Anderson Associates. These [8:25] were turned over to [8:30] subcommittee. The subcommittee [8:31] consisted of councilmember [8:35] Schneider. I topless and more [8:37] walk the they probably can [8:40] fill you in on their [8:41] deliberation in the review of [8:43] the proposals. Thanks. City [8:47] manager. [8:48] >> Councilmember. I couldn't [8:48] tell have topless or Milwaukee [8:53] went first. Well, I'm hoping [8:54] to I'm I'm going to defer to [8:55] my colleagues to maybe make [8:57] comment specifically more [8:58] study MAY be that I even do [8:59] about the final choice. But [8:59] what's really important to me. [9:00] Process was very important to [9:02] me in the situation this is my [9:06] thing. 3rd big city manager [9:07] search and I feel like I had a [9:07] good idea for some. The things [9:08] that could sign that read like [9:12] an would like and I just [9:14] wanted to list out the [9:14] parameters that I was looking [9:15] at that. I feel like we all [9:17] discussed so that everyone [9:18] understands how broadly we [9:19] looked in what they're doing [9:20] all sorts of things that the [9:21] cup public want to hear about. [9:22] So just bear with me and I'm [9:24] just going to tick off a list [9:25] of of issues that I have noted [9:27] that I was looking at in [9:30] voting down and then further [9:31] interviewing and that was the [9:33] extent of experience. Placing [9:35] city managers and Council [9:36] manager jurisdictions [9:37] experience with coastal gma [9:40] regulated. So Northwest [9:41] communities, equality of plan [9:42] for input from Council staff [9:45] and the community outreach be [9:47] on passive applicant [9:49] application. A collection [9:51] clear fair and fair cost [9:51] structure quality a plan for [9:54] interviews testing projects [9:56] reference checks, history of [9:58] inclusive record recruitment, [10:00] diverse slate equitable [10:02] screening practices materials [10:03] tailored to be eyes [10:03] environment, politics and [10:04] issues. We didn't get much of [10:05] that from anybody. But we [10:09] love. Quality of sample [10:11] brochure materials realistic, [10:12] unclear process and timeline [10:13] regular updates experience [10:14] with vocal and early to [10:16] litigation prone communities [10:21] experience managing divided [10:21] councils. [10:22] >> And and recognition of the [10:23] need for both competence and [10:23] collaborative leadership and [10:24] of course, contract price. I [10:27] feel that in. [10:28] >> all these actually quite [10:30] diverse applicants with all [10:33] different sizes. Rest of peers [10:35] etc that the firm we selected [10:36] hit the most of these targets. [10:36] And so that's why for the [10:40] decision. [10:41] >> It's going break up [10:41] councilmember lucky. Thank [10:44] you. And Cali. I top Alyssa, [10:45] thank you for all that [10:46] preparation. She came up with [10:49] the guess I call a matrix of [10:49] scoring. It was really a [10:52] comprehensive list. As you [10:54] heard in an era down. But it [10:54] was it something that has a [10:55] great frame up. Thanks for [10:58] your work on that. So for [10:59] transparency, we got [11:00] applications. We met together [11:04] as our subcommittee look them [11:07] over and chose to forward 5. [11:08] It's not a reflection on all [11:08] of the applicants and all of [11:11] these firms are very [11:12] accomplished, very competent [11:15] great track records which is a [11:17] which is wonderful thing to [11:21] have that. We have a lot of [11:21] company firms that wanted to [11:22] be helping us out by next city [11:24] manager and interim manager. [11:25] So and the group that we [11:30] selected. It was. I think we [11:32] we spent quite a time deciding [11:35] on which group to do like for [11:39] me it it fit to scoop by it. [11:40] Location was great. I mean, [11:42] one of the most California. [11:44] And I think don't want stay [11:45] too. But that was not the [11:48] concern. We wanted the best [11:51] group. This is happens to in [11:54] our area person will be port [11:56] Townsend resident and so it's [11:57] very local very close and want [12:10] to that person. Cliff. More. [12:14] Lots lots of used to be a city [12:15] manager and the outcome on [12:17] ecmo County and Thurston [12:20] County. So he has personal [12:20] professional experience and [12:21] he's done a lot of work. This [12:24] firm I counted at least 20 [12:25] cities in Washington state [12:26] that they have sent found city [12:29] managers as well as probably [12:30] another 50 were chief [12:31] executives and other other [12:32] positions. So they've been [12:33] very successful. The thing [12:36] that stuck out to me was he [12:38] has a background growing. Many [12:39] starting his early career as a [12:42] Peace Corps volunteer in Togo [12:43] West Africa. It was and [12:46] refugees resettlement officer [12:48] for care in Khartoum, Sudan, [12:48] pretty amazing back on [12:49] multicultural education. [12:52] That's his degree. And the [12:53] thing that stuck out to me was [12:55] when he was at the Washington [12:56] State University in 2021 it [12:59] was a co author of an 8 week. [13:00] Diversity equity inclusion [13:03] seminar for all staff and [13:05] faculty untitled fighting [13:06] racism and that's a lens that [13:09] we were using on a lot of our [13:10] applicants the key person was [13:11] actually kind wrote the book [13:13] for was too. So clearly [13:13] checked off that box very [13:17] well. Thank you so much. [13:18] Killed accounts over shater. [13:23] Thank you, mayor. [13:25] >> So again, while also I want [13:29] to just give, you know, my [13:30] grateful thanks to cancel [13:31] ride. Topless for doing a lot [13:34] of the advance work and coming [13:35] up with the questions for us. [13:36] You know, she was very [13:38] collaborative about it in made [13:38] sure that, you know, we felt [13:40] that the questions were, you [13:42] know what we would want to [13:48] ask. So prof just happened to [13:50] be in of of that from just [13:53] happened to be our very first [13:55] interview and I was blown [13:57] away. I think we kind of [13:58] looked at each other and said, [14:02] well, if we had to stop here [14:06] we'd And of course we you [14:07] know, and there were things to [14:08] talk about, right because [14:09] there were some other [14:10] outstanding qualities that [14:14] showed later in the other [14:15] interviews. [14:16] >> I I would second what city [14:18] manager said, which is that, [14:19] you know, I mean, we didn't I [14:20] don't know that 8 was the [14:24] right number. But the 5 that [14:26] we interviewed, we certainly [14:31] got percent. And I just want [14:35] to comment on. What sort of [14:41] won me over with Cliff Just an [14:41] amazing sense of down [14:48] directors authenticity. Just [14:49] like a belief that this was [14:50] the guy we could collaborate [14:51] with that there would be, you [14:53] know, no structural barriers [14:57] that that we would come up [15:02] against and then you know, he [15:03] in there to help the city of [15:06] Tacoma select their city [15:07] manager and not only that but [15:08] their human resources director [15:09] and their public works [15:18] director. Then the also has 2 [15:19] city administrators in the [15:20] city of Pullman in the city of [15:21] Liberty Lake and I could go [15:24] down the list, but I won't [15:27] anyway. I'm I'm very excited [15:27] about the coming process and [15:29] sad as I for the reason for [15:33] it. But anyway, just wanted to [15:35] share a little bit about, you [15:37] know, my personal response to [15:38] this candidate company the one [15:39] who would be representing in [15:44] this search. Can somebody tell [15:46] I just want to make wonderful [15:47] question or comment. And I [15:48] think this is really important [15:49] for you to hear as much as [15:50] possible from us as well as [15:52] the community hearing. So you [15:53] understand the community's [15:54] sounds like what? How we got [15:55] here, especially at all. [15:56] Surprising or could anyone's [15:57] concerned. We didn't consider [15:57] anything. [16:02] >> That would be important. [16:03] And I think I would not have I [16:04] guess what I want to share. If [16:05] I were on the outside looking [16:05] in, I would have been [16:06] surprised that I would have [16:09] landed on this local firm. I [16:12] wanted to fixe and I am [16:13] assuming the committee would [16:15] say we want you to look look [16:16] far and wide for us to find [16:19] the perfect fit for us. So i [16:19] would never have thought we [16:23] would get some of the [16:24] responses and feedback that we [16:25] got from from prof about and [16:26] from Cliff about what they [16:30] will and can do nationally and [16:31] to have that because I would [16:32] never want to assure the [16:32] community that there's no way [16:35] that we're thinking we're so [16:36] focused on Washington. We're [16:38] not looking nationally. We're [16:39] looking actually, but to have [16:39] the proximity for in-person [16:42] touches and above all the [16:43] authenticity is so important. [16:44] So we interviewed some people [16:45] who are who are really good at [16:49] what they do. And would they [16:50] be a good fit for our [16:51] community and our Council in [16:54] our meetings and interacting [16:54] in with a b, you know, how [16:55] much would they flex their [16:58] process, et cetera. And so I [16:59] feel like we've got somebody [17:04] who is a bubble authentic [17:04] experience will do. The [17:05] National search. Want to [17:08] assure that people that and [17:09] will give us the ability to [17:11] say we want to add a different [17:12] in another layer of interviews [17:13] here or we want to do that. [17:14] And there's no ego involved. [17:15] We're going to be able to work [17:17] with this person. So I think [17:21] that's really critical. And I [17:22] will just also say that we [17:24] really did work hard, [17:24] especially when we got down to [17:25] the last 3 and really wrestled [17:26] with just know that we we took [17:29] it very seriously. That's [17:31] we're lucky. And just [17:32] >> Double down on what comes [17:35] right on cnn again in [17:39] compliment and you're really [17:40] Preparation work again, all [17:42] the firms and even the ones [17:42] that we said we would move [17:44] forward or they were wrong. [17:47] Qualifying and nobody really [17:48] kind of came down to what's [17:51] going to be the best fit for [17:52] our community in that will [17:53] double our community come [17:55] forward. The. For lack of a [17:58] better word to 5 of this [17:59] individual. And some of these [18:03] were really professional. But. [18:04] They might fit better in an [18:06] urban I you like a Seattle or [18:08] because the kind polished [18:12] professional, which is great. [18:12] But this is going to be this [18:13] going to be probably one of [18:15] the biggest things over decide [18:18] on my term and it's going to [18:19] be tough shoes to fill what [18:20] size issues do you have [18:25] blurred is make sure and he [18:27] will be missed and you've sent [18:28] us good model when we're [18:29] looking for the possible [18:31] candidates. They will find and [18:32] prominent did say it's going [18:34] to be a national search. And I [18:35] also in the interviews today. [18:36] I think her son of amended [18:39] wanted to it. They want to be [18:40] flexible. They want to make [18:42] sure they fit our community in [18:43] process. Plan is to be about 4 [18:46] months or so. So and the thank [18:48] you see So that I just and I [18:50] think Leslie, too, for. I [18:54] think we I think we're good. [18:55] >> Bouncing off team in each [18:56] with any of you like to make [19:06] the motion. Think. [19:12] >> just seasons it to [19:12] >> won't make the motion, but [19:14] I just wanted to declare my [19:17] intense interest in this the [19:20] way on the periphery of going [19:21] forward. But I'm very [19:22] interested in the search and [19:26] I'm grateful too. The [19:31] committee for the thought they [19:32] put in to what we're looking [19:32] for and how we're going about [19:36] it. The and just the darley [19:42] with you. [19:43] >> Councilmember Johnson just [19:45] want to say that I appreciate [19:48] the work that went into the [19:49] process because I know that [19:49] was a big deal last time that [19:53] time. It was kind of amazing [19:55] everybody that we didn't have [19:55] more. The one we had was [20:02] imminent. And so this brings [20:03] the public France, the rest of [20:07] the council people I'm sure [20:09] you guys gave it your ended [20:09] very due diligence. And I [20:14] appreciate that. Thank you. [20:14] >> I echo everything. I am so [20:18] grateful that it was you 3. I [20:19] think it was the perfect group [20:20] for this sort of decision and [20:21] the sort of work in the home [20:25] work that went into it. Super [20:26] confident that this is the [20:27] right I'm really excited to [20:29] meet him and work with him. I [20:33] find it even more special it's [20:34] 2 council members who went [20:35] through the West selling [20:36] program and are using language [20:37] like collaborative in some of [20:38] those things that you learned. [20:39] I'm sure went into this [20:42] decision and so I think the [20:44] community should be able to be [20:45] confident that this is the [20:45] right choice that building [20:47] brought along the way and that [20:50] we'll be masking the right [20:50] questions to fill the shoes [20:51] that we didn't want to feel [20:57] so. Councilmember chater. [20:58] >> I can make the motion. I [20:59] also just had one more small [21:00] comment, which is that a [21:03] number of the firm's that you [21:06] see on the list have men's [21:07] names and had women ceos so I [21:13] just one wanted. That's right. [21:17] Yeah. Well, so that was a nice [21:17] surprise and they weren't shy [21:20] about saying yeah, this state [21:22] that has a man's name but a [21:27] woman is okay. Alright, I [21:28] moved to authorize the city [21:29] manager to execute an [21:30] agreement with profit company [21:34] as the executive search firm [21:35] to assist with the [21:35] identification of the city's [21:39] next city manager and interim [21:40] city manager. [21:40] >> They see 18,500 plus [21:46] expenses. [21:46] >> Great motion made by [21:47] councilmember Schneider [21:48] seconded by councilmember more [21:54] waukee. All those in favor. I [21:54] seeing opposition comes [21:58] forward to thank you have a [22:00] question for the city manager [22:01] for advice on whether we [22:04] should do anything to bridge [22:06] between now and when will be [22:07] really interfacing with Cliff. [22:08] In other words, would be [22:09] helpful for the 3 of us at all [22:12] to help bridge. [22:12] >> Before we can all sit down [22:13] together is that meant has [22:14] been the work happening. We're [22:18] going to lose a good. For [22:19] weeks. It feels like or [22:19] something in this. And what [22:20] would your recommendation for [22:22] how we get from here where [22:23] we're all deciding how we move [22:26] forward. [22:27] >> Tomorrow. We will be [22:29] sending out the contract to [22:30] profit company. Expect the [22:33] contract return. There's a [22:34] couple of tasks will have to [22:35] occur peril. One of the [22:36] important ones is that we're [22:38] actually right into the scope [22:41] they're going to provide a [22:45] minimum for qualified [22:49] candidates for city manager to [22:50] the council. Also, I would [22:51] imagine profit spawn to us [22:56] with a tentative schedule for [22:57] initial introductions in their [22:57] scope. Their first piece is [23:02] too develop a profile. [23:03] Qualities of city manager [23:04] candidate that the council in [23:07] the community would like [23:08] typically there's a [23:08] three-legged stool here and [23:10] that is the council, the [23:15] community staff and typically [23:16] again, this is a well [23:17] experienced a recruitment They [23:22] will make inroads in and [23:22] discuss with you the way to [23:25] reach out to touch those bases [23:26] and then they'll be doing that [23:28] simultaneously with developing [23:31] go fund at pool for an [23:32] interim. I expect that they [23:33] will be doing that through the [23:33] month of DECEMBER in 2 mid [23:38] JANUARY. And the person [23:39] interaction. I'm sure [23:45] beginning of the year. [23:46] >> That's precisely why I want [23:48] to be sure that we at a [23:50] minimum request early agenda [23:52] item for the council, discuss [23:53] any feedback that we want to [23:53] give since we can't [23:54] individually in our one on [23:57] ones. Be directing anything at [23:58] all. And it was an important [23:59] part of our selection of this [23:59] from an if it would have been [24:04] any from that we just met with [24:05] that we would have the ability [24:06] as a council to weigh in on [24:10] that critical first step what [24:11] is gathered in the process for [24:12] and in that won't surprise [24:14] Cliff. I don't think to ensure [24:17] we get the best background for [24:17] the profile. So I just want to [24:19] put out a strong, you know, [24:20] saving right now. The sooner [24:20] we can get gender that the [24:22] whole Council can talk about [24:26] something like that. Because [24:27] we're going to go again. We're [24:28] going go into debt area where [24:31] we're just 7 people [24:32] disconnected. And if too many [24:33] balls, good going too far. We [24:37] might lost an opportunity. [24:37] >> through through the chair. [24:38] That's one the reasons why we [24:40] want to have this meeting. Was [24:45] to go ahead and get to this [24:46] engagement commenced and [24:50] executed. So we get was any [24:51] time. Obviously it's really [24:55] tough. Chris summit first of [24:56] the year. I expect that [24:57] probably will communicate will [25:00] provide that to the council [25:01] are tentative schedule for [25:04] other activities at this point [25:06] is JANUARY 13th will be the [25:09] first Council council will be [25:12] swearing in for councilmember [25:13] son. That meeting will try to [25:16] make more ceremonial eating. [25:16] We do have a study session [25:17] scheduled for JANUARY. The [25:22] 20th. The topics we thought we [25:24] had probably change some of [25:25] those topics. And then a [25:25] regular business meeting on [25:29] the 27th. We also can't call [25:33] through. After the 13th. We [25:38] will have. A new mayor and [25:40] then through of the American [25:41] call special meetings as [25:44] needed for the council. To [25:45] engage in various steps along [25:49] the way. So yes, the work a [25:50] little bit of flexibility on [25:52] the council's part. But I [25:55] expect that we can do that and [25:57] hopefully can have quick [25:58] check-in meetings like this [25:58] one was intended to be in [26:01] terms of allowing Go ahead [26:02] slick for and then we can get [26:04] the paperwork going and [26:06] they'll be on and certain with [26:12] the engagement problem too. [26:14] >> Council We're I was just [26:15] waiting for good. The No other [26:23] discussion topic on [26:25] >> Kirsten, sorry to be the [26:27] doors. But when I hear that [26:28] timeline and I think what [26:29] they're going to have in mind. [26:31] And the possibility that if we [26:34] don't put in a request now to [26:35] start floating in for problems [26:38] in for special meeting of the [26:38] council to have introduction [26:42] to this person to Cliff and to [26:42] find out what the plan is for [26:45] the development of a profile [26:46] and see where the flexibility [26:47] we're going to get into the [26:51] end of DECEMBER and that that [26:52] timeline. I'm guessing that [26:52] his preference is going to be [26:53] that he's getting close to [26:57] developing a profile. So [26:58] again, I certainly Biden for [26:58] many attractions you guys. But [27:02] I'm just warning us that. You [27:03] know, we're having for a [27:04] certain period time is going [27:05] expect a timeline. And I [27:05] actually for months is among [27:09] the shortest of timelines. We [27:10] were provided. And I think 6 [27:10] easily have been fine. So [27:13] little rain and it's getting [27:17] too late. JANUARY without. [27:18] This is the place that we have [27:20] the ability to speak and [27:20] between now and the next [27:21] meeting were just individuals. [27:24] So. Anybody else feels like it [27:24] would be good to start looking [27:29] for. A second week of JANUARY. [27:35] Something special meeting. [27:35] Councilmember [27:38] >> just be a different. [27:41] Available before a meeting. A [27:45] lot of We need steps in place. [27:49] It's noted the city manager [27:49] Okay. This week. Another [27:53] draft. Thank you. Thank you, [27:53] mayor. [27:54] >> Their draft schedule mean [27:55] this is what the proposed that [27:57] weeks of JANUARY, 1512, gather [27:58] information for position [27:59] profile travel limit for [28:01] stakeholder member interviews. [28:05] Profile for review at its get. [28:06] Profile approval and then [28:07] JANUARY 19 post profiling [28:11] problem in that. They're kind [28:12] of in your Lane. It sounds [28:14] like at least sensitive that [28:15] they want to get this moving [28:16] as quickly as possible. And so [28:20] there. Don't think we're going [28:20] to be I don't think we're [28:22] gonna be that out of sync with [28:22] what the dress schedule is [28:32] here. Thank This isn't about [28:38] talk right. [28:39] >> If you feel come to, you I [28:41] will I will make a motion that [28:42] the council direct the city [28:43] manager to determine what [28:44] options we might have for a [28:48] special City Council meeting. [28:49] Lots of flexibility by the [28:51] second week of JANUARY so that [28:51] we can actively participate a [28:59] profile process. Secondly, I [29:03] seconded ok. So motion made by [29:04] Council. I don't is seconded [29:05] by councilmember more lucky. [29:12] All those in favor Okay. [29:15] >> still have the on the floor [29:15] and to authorize the city [29:20] manager, we voted we did Okay. [29:21] With Council of the Yeah. Good [29:23] of the order to explain why my [29:27] Tyra so out of order. [29:28] >> Back in JUNE. I attended [29:32] the that the Macau Museum of [29:32] Art fashion. People remember [29:33] this, but to catch people [29:34] speeding their tune in and go [29:37] what is councilmember [29:38] Milwaukee doing at that event [29:38] there wasn't impromptu live [29:41] auction event that. I would [29:45] wear this to future City [29:46] Council meeting bidding war [29:51] went on the. The winner was a [29:52] John quick ones brother. Then [29:53] a question who that? It's a [29:57] treasure at the anyway. He bid [29:58] $1000 that was given to the [29:59] Bay Buchanan Museum Art [30:04] because of tonight. And so I [30:06] just followed through on the [30:08] auction and I'm so glad this [30:09] worked out because it's a sure [30:11] this meeting of the [30:12] >> But it's it's really it's a [30:15] joyous thing that they wanted [30:16] to be involved in in our [30:17] process. Even if it's [30:20] something like this, but did [30:21] help to this wonderful [30:22] facility. This wonderful tool [30:22] we have on this Island. They [30:25] Museum of Art and I should [30:29] have brought my high school [30:30] picture because I hear look [30:33] like this when I was 18 as [30:33] much as you don't believe me, [30:36] I [30:40] >> Thanks. Council are working [30:41] I'll do a quick this weekend. [30:42] I had the opportunity to go to [30:46] the menorah lighting Winslow [30:46] green in light of the events [30:47] on Bondi Bondi Beach. It was [30:48] even more impactful. There [30:50] were several 100 people there. [30:54] Our police chief fire chief, [30:55] several officers and lots of [30:57] community. Great music. So [31:01] just wishing everyone [31:02] wonderful holiday I know [31:06] holidays are different for [31:07] everyone and some can some [31:07] holidays can be hard and bring [31:10] up our things so however your [31:13] holiday is sending love and I [31:15] wanted to thank my colleagues [31:16] for entrusting me with this [31:16] gavel for the year. This is [31:19] last meeting chairing, thanks [31:20] you for your confidence in me [31:24] for teaching me so much into [31:25] the community for being there [31:26] every step of the way. And [31:26] obviously city manager working [31:30] for Listen. So everyone see [31:30] you next year. Thank you so [31:45] much for a giant.