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» Dear Father in heaven, thank you for
being here with us today and thank you

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for keeping your hand of guidance over
each and every one of us as we work to

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lead here. Thank you for the springtime
that you've brought uh our communities

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and our valley. Once again, as I always
ask, guide our words, our thoughts, and

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our actions in Jesus name. Amen.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» There's a stain on the flag.

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» I think it's just

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That fix it.
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» Oh, I can't.

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The table always keeps moving back.
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» My diet isn't going that well.
All right. Um, do we have any changes to

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the agenda or adoptions? I don't think
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All right, let's go with citizen
participation. This is for anything

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that's not on the agenda. I saw Mr.
Sappington coming up the hallway, so I

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thought we were going to have a taker.

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» Yeah. My name is Arthur Sappington.
I live at 3055

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10th Street, apartment I. I'm here
representing the uh Snake River Music

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Gardens,
uh which is a 501c3

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uh environmental program watershed for
all of the Snake River drainage from the

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headarters all the way to the Columbia
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Uh what I'm here to talk about today is
what has happened in the last 100 days

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of uh
from the White House and how it affects

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uh the coordination programs that that
we're doing for watershed management

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within both public and private lands on
on uh the uh watershed of the Pow River

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drainage with the Pow River Wershed
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Uh there are three executive orders and
one supreme court case that are

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pertinent to what is happening at the
county level and state level. The state

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has totally ignored all the three
executive orders and the supreme court

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case. Supreme Court case is from uh 2024
and that's the one that I wrote the

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essay on the last time I was here doing
a presentation on the Snake River and

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the Blue Mountain Forest plan revision.
So I won't go over that other than the

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fact saying that that has resulted
in the u

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the executive order 14225
which deals with the forest timber

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management
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wildfire uh inter agency funding
emergency funding for wildfires and

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such.
that's that directly affects us for both

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our public and private lands within the
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Then the other two uh executive orders
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and 14151.

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168 deals with title nine
uh distinguishing between biological

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uh what is a biological male and female
and what is uh gender what they call

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gender determination.
It distinguishes that for that

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title nine as well. Then the other one
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deals with DEI

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and that deals with all of the racial
issues and all of the urban primarily

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urban uh social justice, environmental
justice and all that stuff within urban

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uh growth boundaries particularly for
this state.

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Uh so and one of the things is is the
for the county is the fact that DLCD's

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strategic plan from 2023 to 2031
is going to have to be scrapped and

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completely redone. The state is yet to
address that issue for the four parts of

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that plan. The first two uh deal with
the uh the two executive orders uh of

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the DEI and and title title nine. Uh
what that has to do in the strategic

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plan as what I've been arguing with for
years that it it didn't and now that is

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clarified and it's going to be
addressed. Okay. Now, uh, my wife is

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going to bring up the other work that
we're doing that we presented also

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earlier that has to do with the food
program within the local uh, farm to

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market within the county. So,
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» until 10 after.
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Unit I, Arthur's wife. We're presenting
a program. We've already sent it to

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Washington DC to the Department of
Health and Human Services. It's called

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Maha Make America Healthy Again Farms
and Ranches. And the idea is that any

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farm or ranch that wants to can become
an education center for making America

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healthy again because what happens on
the ground, the food that's grown, the

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cooking that's done, the food that's
preserved, the education that's passed

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on to our youth, that's what's really
going to make America healthy again. We

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sent a 13page paper to Washington. But
we're here in Baker County turning it

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into a book, a little booklet, a
handbook that we can hand to any rancher

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or farmer that's interested in becoming
part of the program. And when the book

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is published and printed locally, uh,
we'll bring a copy to the commission.

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» Well, I'd like to say it.
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» Thank you.
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I I I was going to let Art know that I I
have addressed the uh executive order

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for the timber increase. Uh I attended
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Forest Resource Council. Uh Chris French
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Jackie Buchanan,
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the the big topic. and and to look
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smaller timber the mess that we have uh
throughout the wa Whitman and utilizing

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that timber. So looking at um laminated
beams and different things like that for

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usage and uh a timber coalition is being
formed by me uh within the county so

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that we can push that forward. Jackie
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increase is actually over 30% by 2027
instead of five years for region six. So

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just to let you know that I uh have been
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what we get. and to let you know outside
that you brought that up. I've also

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contacted the local BLM office
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were setting up for the distinction
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for the mineral estate.
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» their their old
memorandum of understanding is out the

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door.
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really good letter to um to Washington
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taking over the permitting process and
things like that because they are more

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streamlined in the Forest Service for
the mining and extraction, mineral

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extractions and things like that.
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» We're trying to set up through the St. C
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supervisor and the poor supervisor as it
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at the local level because Washington
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» There's a huge curve.
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a time restraint. um contact me and you
know about any of this stuff in

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including that because we're looking at
uh possibly having Brooke Rollins here

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to Baker County if we can get her here.
So for your book and the farm uh food

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and and things like that is important.
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» yeah,
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» All right. Anyone else have anything for
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» No one online.
All right, seeing nothing, let's go to

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uh review and approval of the minutes.
We have minutes for March 12th, April

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2nd, April 16th, and April 21st.
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revisions and
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seconded the motion because you were
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see.
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» so verified it. So,
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of the uh special commission session for
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» I'll second
a motion and a second. Any further

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discussion? Saying none. All in favor
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» I.
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» April 2nd. Same.
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» No. Um I'll move to approve the
commission session minutes from April

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2nd, 2025.
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» Have a motion and a second. Any further
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Seeing none. All in favor say I.
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» I. Motion carries.
>> April 16th. That's great.

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» Yeah.
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16th, 2025 uh session minutes.
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» I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion? Seeing none, all in

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favor say I.
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» I. Motion carries.
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I'll make a motion to approve April
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commissioner session minutes.
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» Have a motion and a second. Any further
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Seeing none, all in favor say I.
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» I. Motion carries.
>> All right. On to scheduled business.

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Facilities, come on up.

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timing isn't realistic.

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» The timing isn't realistic on there.
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fine and walks out,
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we're back on track.
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having me. So, um, this is a the
department updates are kind of an

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opportunity for each of the department's
elected officials to come in and just

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give the the public and the
commissioners a kind of a quick, uh,

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preview of where we are and where we're
headed with things. Um, so the county's

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facilities department is a general fund
department um that currently consists of

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3.75 um, FTE. Um our central operations
are here in the courthouse and uh we

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have an annual operating budget of just
a little over a million dollars. Um the

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some of the locations that we um take
care of which includes all county owned

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property, some rented leased as well. Um
but some examples of that of course are

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the county courthouse here, our justice
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offices, juvenile office, health
department, um weed department/emergency

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management um storage facility over on
Bridge Street, um some additional

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storage on 13th Street. And then we help
um our special funds with their uh

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buildings and locations as well, which
include things like the road department,

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museums, parks, and fair. Um we cover
all aspects of the county owned

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structures. Um so some examples of that
would include exterior uh components

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which are like roofs, siding, doors,
windows, locks, that sort of thing. Um

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interior components, everything from
floors, walls, paint, trim, uh plumbing,

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electrical, and HVAC issues. And always
get the question HVAC, which is heating,

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ventilation, and air conditioning. um
life safety components, fire systems,

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security uh systems, elevators, backflow
um devices and all that. Um we also uh

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provide in-house all of our janitorial
and maintenance um for our um facilities

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which include um or which provides you
know safe sanitary conditions not only

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for for our employees um folks confined
in the jail but also the public. And

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that includes over 60 uh toilets, over
60 sinks and 10 urinal. So that's always

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a lot of a lot of business busyness. Um
we we also in house cover all the

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grounds maintenance uh needs for for our
location. So this includes, you know,

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lawn maintenance, weed abatement,
irrigation systems, tree care, and our

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walkways, parking, and pathways. Uh we
address striping, resurfacing, and snow

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and ice mitigation. So there's always
lots of work to do there. Um we also are

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tasked with long-term secure storage of
documentation and document uh uh

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destruction and and that process. Um a
few examples of some of the projects

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we've had going or currently working on
or going to be taking on um here at the

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courthouse. Uh completed project was
last fall repaving the west drive um and

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entrance uh area to the courthouse here.
It involved tree removal base prep by

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the road department for the paving and
then once it was completed the

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restriping and um markings. Uh we're
continuing to work on the remodel of our

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tech area expansion and planning
department move which is down in the

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basement area kind of encompassing an
area that the water masters used to

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utilize and then some additional
storage. uh with uh completion slated by

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the end of this budget year um for phase
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and then we would be able to take on the
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the existing tech space to enlarge our
server room capacity and make their

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space a little more usable. Um, and then
upcoming we're going to be working on a

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new transaction window for circuit court
um and a hardening of their entryway to

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to be more compliant with their safety
and security concerns up there. Uh, at

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the Justice Center, we put in new
stainless steel countertops on

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everything out there. Uh we completed a
repaint of all the exterior and we're

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continuing to work on um their emergency
operation addition which is about a 3500

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square foot edition that um
is in the final phases of engineering

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and design and should be going out for
bid sometime hopefully later this month.

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um
special fund projects. We did uh we

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completed
we being the road department and the

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facilities department completed the
foundation for the road department's uh

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9,000 foot storage building replacement.
Um and we're about to uh get started on

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repainting the weed building and EM
building over at 13th Street Storage. So

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uh we also participate in uh several
departmental specific activities

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throughout the year that require our um
services and couple of examples of those

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are securing and transporting mailing
for elections and for taxation purposes.

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And we also participated in in a couple
of community projects that were centric

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to the uh courthouse here location and
that was the operation green light and

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uh which was a recognition of veteran
services to our country and uh the

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Oregon gold star family memorial event
uh which was also hosted here at the

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courthouse and it was uh coordinated by
Rick Lori our veteran service officer.

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So overall, we have a very busy um
schedule, but it's been a successful

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year for us and we're looking forward to
uh another non-stop um busy year ahead

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of us. So that's kind of a few things in
a nutshell from our world.

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» I just want to say that I think your
department is amazing. You do a fabulous

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job with the 3.75
of what all you cover. I think you do an

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amazing job and you guys, somebody is
always around and I appreciate that.

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» Wonderful. Thank you. And that's a big
shout out to my team as well. I can't do

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it without the folks on on my team. So
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office. So that's a good thing.
>> Yeah.

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» If anybody knows up in the clock tower,
there's a lot of flies and so

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» they build up this time of year.
>> Yeah, definely.

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» That's the one thing I remember about
that room.

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» You do you do good work and and you have
a terrific staff. you you do a good job

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you picking and the and doing the hiring
because they're dedicated and and I I I

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like every one of your your team
>> always quick and friendly and get the

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job get the job done.
>> Well, thank you very much. Appreciate

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the time and
>> yeah, we appreciate all that you guys do

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for us and I will pass that on to him
because again with without my team of

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folks I I certainly can't do it all.
>> Thanks, Dan.

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Whitney, I'll ask him about our
thermostat later.

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All right, I guess we'll go move my
coffee. I will now open contract review

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board and we'll go on to DA, trauma
informed response training grant.

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Good morning.
>> Good morning. Long time no see.

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» Yeah,
she's been upstairs.

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» Um, so
the trauma informed response training

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one is just uh you guys approved me
submitting that grant last month

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» and they approved it and so it's just
the agreement for the one-year grant.

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That's all. You guys have any questions
about that?

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» You're just you're just needing a
signature on this one, right?

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» Just signature.
>> All right.

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» Okay.
And then the second one is our child

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abuse multidisciplinary intervention
grant which we apply for every um two

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years and it helps fund our child abuse
response team. Our mult multidisiplinary

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team meets every Tuesday or every other
Tuesday at New Directions. We talk about

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child abuse cases, how we're going to
respond to them. It has law enforcement

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us and so um it helps fund WDE's
position. and I actually bumped that up

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a little bit this year because we had an
uptick a little bit. So, um that'll help

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with his position a little bit. And
then, um our training funds, we send law

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enforcement, DHS workers, teachers,
people from our office to um trainings

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to make sure that we're up to date on
the newest and best way to investigate

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and prosecute child abuse. So,
>> so your contractors that you contract

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with, do do you also pay for their
training then when they go to Chelsea?

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» Yep.
>> Okay.

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» Yep.
>> Our forensic interviewer, we pay for all

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her training.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» It doesn't have a match.
>> This one doesn't have any matches on it.

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» And there is a little bit. So, um
because of all of the federal freezes

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and such, it just um they don't fully
know what our budget's going to be, but

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they were they instructed us we have to
have it turned in by May 19th.

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» And so, we just have to base it off of
our budget from the last time. So, this

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is a little bit less than what our
budget was last time just because I

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wanted to give myself some cushion. But,
if they come back and say, "We'll give

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you another 10,000." It might be a
little bit more than this. and I'll just

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» we can work with Christina on getting
that done

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» on the unappropriated.
>> So yeah,

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but if I yeah I don't know the exact
funding amount. I just went to u I went

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to a Zoom meeting and they were like
yeah we don't know but if you can submit

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it
>> that's a common

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it's a common answer right now.
>> Yeah.

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» I'll move to approve the grant agreement
for trauma uh response training number

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TRIT-2025
uh Baker County.davvap DAV VAP 00014.

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» A second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any

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further discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor say I.

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» I. Motion carries.
>> That was the one that needed to be

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signed. The cam is the one I need to
submit.

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» Issue is just
>> Okay. Okay. Just check.

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» Yeah, we have to do Yeah,
>> we'll just do them separate. We'll just

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do them separate.
>> That's just a motion for I think you

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just have me.
>> So, you'll sign that one and get that

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back. Yeah. Okay.
>> Um and I'll move to um approve the grant

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application for multi um the multi
multi-disiplinary team. Okay. Hi. This

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is not working today.
>> I'll second.

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» All right. I have a motion and a second.
Any further discussion? You didn't even

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get give your pitch.
>> I gave the pitch. I gave it. You just

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gave it on both.
>> Oh, I guess I just th them together.

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» Oh, you did. That's right. All right.
All in no further discussion of all in

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favor say I.
>> I.

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» I. Motion carries.
>> All right.

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Thank you, Eddie.

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» All right. Emergency management.

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» Good morning, Gary.
>> Good.

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» Hey,
>> how are you?

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» Good.
>> Lot of folks. I feel like they should

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dance. I know.
>> Well, you can if you want.

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» No.
>> Hey, who are you driving around with

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yesterday?
>> Uh the uh Chief Carlson.

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» Well,
would you like to introduce him to us

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real quick while he's Well,
>> while I've got him in the back, it's

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easy to put him on the spot. He can't
get away.

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» This uh ladies and gentlemen, this is
Chief Michael Carlson and has taken over

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the reigns of Baker City and
>> welcome.

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» Doing a great job.
>> Welcome. It's very good to meet you and

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I'm pleased that you came today.
>> Nice to meet you. Thank It's very good

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to meet you.
>> All right.

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» So, I guess I'm here. Uh, you guys each
received a copy of the Baker County Fire

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Mutual Aid agreement.
>> Yes.

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» The only real change to the agreement
was uh we used to call it an allhazard

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agreement.
uh with the inject of a private

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ambulance, it was easier to work have an
ambulance mutual aid agreement and a

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fire mutual aid agreement. So if you see
some references in here about all hazard

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fire departments are all hazard anyway.
Wildland structural hazardous materials,

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extrication assistance with medical. So
uh but the title really is fire mutual

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aid agreement because it's the fire
agencies federal, local and state or

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federal, state and local agencies. So,
are we going to get one for the

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ambulance or do we already have one and
I don't know about that?

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» Uh Jason's out of the office, but I
believe that the ambulance uh mutual aid

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agreement was in motion and I think that
will include halfway ambulance

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ambulance and
can't answer that

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» just

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questions
>> and everybody signed on to it that was

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prior. Yeah. The signature.
>> Yes. And you can see some of the dates

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started in February.
>> I mean, like from the one that was in

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place a while back. Everybody else
signed on to it that had signed on to it

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before.
>> Yeah. This agreement's been around since

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2005.
>> Understand the question.

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» You mean all the same agencies?
>> Yeah. Yes.

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» Yes.
>> Okay.

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» With the exception of the fores, all the
same agencies are signing.

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» Okay.
>> Pine Valley. Yeah. Out north.

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missing or not. So, I just was asking

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» there actually I do have a red note
here.

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» You may not have a page from Bowen
Valley because they have their page. You

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haven't yet signed.
>> Okay.

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» So, if you're missing one, it's Greater
Bowen Valley Fire Protection District.

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» And it's just because you haven't got
there.

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» Is that Chris?
>> Chris. Yeah,

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» he's he's going to just had time for
this. He did something.

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» Okay. Thank you for noting that and
reminding me.

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» Yeah. Keeping track of all of them.
>> This is a non-binding

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non-fidiciary agreement. If one agency
can help, the other will help. If not,

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there's there's no
>> right.

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» Uh should we go past the 4hour
requirement initial aid agreement, we

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enter into what's called a supplemental
agreement. And that's where you start

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talking about fees payment usage beyond
helping.

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» Is that more when you get with state
forestry and BLM rather than Hannes and

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Baker rural or greater and sump or
something?

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» It's the same but how they fold out are
differently. So yes, the idea of Hannes

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charging Baker rural after the 4-hour
period is probably happen. Yeah, that's

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what I've got.
>> So, the supplemental agreement, you're

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exactly right, is uh is probably more
for uh for service field.

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The confusing part to this is we we
worked on direct hire agreements. Uh and

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so the there's direct hire agreements
with the Oregon Department of Forestry

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and BLM based on the four hours. And so
really, it's uh that piece is kind of in

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place. Uh where it gets a little
confusing uh confusing is the city for

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marshals office has upstaffing grants.
So it's going to get really complex what

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they did last year and hopefully we have
the right people around the table uh to

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work it out. But uh that's really you're
you're correct Michelle that's really

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the commissioner that's really the the
after this agreement ends and money's

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talked about a supplement agreement
comes in and those other agreements and

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that includes things like qualified
training uh the proper equipment uh

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personal protective equipment and those
things

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» so are we still at is it four days for
mutual aid that you can be out there

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» four hours
>> four hours and Yes.

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» Yeah.
>> So, that's not going to move.

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» Uh,
probably not. And here's why. Uh, most

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of the agencies in Baker County are
volunteer or provided a stipen, small

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stipen. They can't really give 12 to 24
hours. Now, with the upstaffing at the

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state fire marshal, we'll have to see
how these through because they will be

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paid for their responses.
>> Okay. Well, I thought that was a little

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bit of a hindrance. Um, in
four hours max, you know,

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» before the house staffing grant, things
like that, uh, it was 24.

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» That's a long time for people to leave
their normal jobs or ranches to go.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. This was really designed for

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» paying to help out Baker. Baker to help
out bigger city.

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Not so much. Of course.
>> And then I like we sign on to it. Rare

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times we've had, you know, we had Noodle
come out two years ago to take a roof

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off a house while it was on fire. Yes.
>> That kind of thing. So that's that's our

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involvement.
>> And my program

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» and well in your program
>> uh coordination. Yeah. Things have

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gotten interesting.
>> Yeah. I just thought that but on the

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town go that was a little bit of a
hindrance on the four hours and having

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to change out. So
>> yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Um

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» well the
>> do we just need to move to have Shane

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sign or do we need to move to
>> and and also on Shane signature are you

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going to wait for Greater Bowen Valley
for Galazooi to get you that signature

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before he signs or
>> e you can do it either way. Ever almost

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everybody else has already signed
>> because it's not in there. It's just

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» this is all the rules for department of
forestry

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field.
>> It's listed in here. So

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» it is listed. So we just have to get
that agreement. Okay.

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» I'll do either way. I can come back for
signature.

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» So uh I'll make a motion to approve
emergency management Baker County Mutual

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aid agreement uh for Chair Olisha to
sign.

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» I'll second it.
>> All right. I have a motion and a second.

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Any further discussion? Hearing none.
All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I. Motion carries.

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» Appreciate your time.
>> Thank you.

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» All right. Thank you.

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» All right. Road Departmentou with Upper
Burnt River Weed Control Management.

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» Um they they weren't able to be here
today. They're out busy working. But um

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uh they are what this is is they're
asking or I'm sorry, the Upper Brent

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River Control Management Area. They are
requesting the ability to put two

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storage sheds on uh county property out
in Harford where the Herford shop is

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located. Um there's no cost. Um the the
district there. They uh have insurance.

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They listed the county as additionally
insured.

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» Yeah.
>> They some of their members will have

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keys to the gate but not to the shop so
they can access their storage shed.

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So that's all this is. It's just anou
with with that red district for them to

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store their stuff on.
>> And it was pretty specific on what they

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can and can't do within that. So it is
very specific.

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» That's what I liked. I like that.
>> Yeah. They they brought that up during

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their annual weed meeting. Is that
January or February? Something like

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that. And Gussy
caught it and did this due diligence. So

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that's really nice. Kudos to Gussy if
she's still online. She is.

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» Um, so I'll move to approve the MOU with
upper burnt river weed control

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management for storage space.
>> I'll second.

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» I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion?

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» Seeing none. All in favor say I.
>> I.

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» I. Motion carries.

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» All right. Planning IGA with Harney
County for on-site wastewater management

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program.
Good morning.

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» I'm sure there's a lot of people pretty
excited about this.

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» Yeah, I uh I know I provided a staff
report to you guys, but I'll just

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briefly summarize what's going on for
anybody from the public that might be

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interested in the changes. Um,
historically, DEEQ has uh been in charge

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of the permitting and inspection of
on-site um septic systems in Baker

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County, and we had a regional person
doing that up until fall of last year.

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DEEQ has not filled that position. So
Baker County needed to figure out what

423
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:10,320
we could do in the alternative like
alternatively to help our citizens and

424
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:15,760
the public get all their septic
approvals completed. And so in

425
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,480
discussions with Harney County, they are
interested in taking on that role still

426
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:25,840
under the rules of DEQ, but they would
take on that role that role locally for

427
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,799
Baker County. and the IG before you is
explaining the roles and

428
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:33,200
responsibilities in the agreement
between DQ Harney County and Baker

429
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:39,120
County. So that's what's before you
today is just the responsibilities of th

430
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:44,159
those governing uh bodies um or
entities. And then there will be

431
00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:48,799
ordinances or an ordinance coming to you
later this month on how it's actually

432
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:53,039
going to be locally implemented. But
before we do that, we needed to get the

433
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:57,120
agreement signed if you guys agreed to
have Harne County handle that on behalf

434
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,039
of DEQ. So
>> yeah,

435
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,919
» I think it's a great partnership.
>> It is.

436
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:05,679
» Yeah. And Har County is very excited to
work with us and I think it's actually

437
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:10,079
going to expedite the process for people
in the county and so I think our the

438
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:16,320
public will be
>> uh happier with their experiences. And

439
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,440
and just to be clear, DEEQ
stopped offering this and this is why

440
00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:22,000
we're at this point with Harney.
>> Yes.

441
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,320
» And there's technically no cost to the
county for everything.

442
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,119
» Correct.
>> All the income and everything, all

443
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:32,320
expenses income if they go down again.
>> Yes. Based off of the fees from their

444
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:39,320
inspections and visits to the site. So,
um I will make a motion to approve uh or

445
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,320
to authorize

446
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:50,000
uh let me see Tara
Mishka uh interim planning director to

447
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:55,679
sign the IGA uh for on-site septic
program with Harney County on behalf of

448
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:58,480
Baker County. How's that?
>> Second.

449
00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:02,880
» I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion?

450
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,599
Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.

451
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320
» I.
>> I. Motion carries.

452
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,119
» Thank you for your work.
>> Yeah, that turns out better than it

453
00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:14,599
could have. So, I'm very happy.
>> Yeah. Thanks.

454
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:27,640
» All right. Next up is PLTC Baker City
and Baker County Hulcom Huitt Park

455
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,640
funding request.

456
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Right. Well, good morning commissioners.
Thank you for letting us come here to uh

457
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:44,320
present this proposal. Um as as you all
asked us to do, we we sent these

458
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:48,640
proposals to the um TLT committee. And
uh those were both passed with

459
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:53,359
overwhelming support on to you. And so,
um, I'll just briefly go over the, uh,

460
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,960
city's part for the startup cost for the
Baker City Tourism Fund, and then

461
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Councelor Joseph will cover the Court
Plaza request. Um,

462
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:08,160
for our uh, application, which focuses
on the startup costs for Baker City's

463
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:12,880
tourism fund, the intent of this is
basically to just ensure a smooth

464
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:17,520
transition over to us starting our TLT
program. All the expenditures in there

465
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:22,720
are uh expenditure and line items that
are already on the county's budget and

466
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:28,400
our typical marketing expenditures for
um cities across Oregon. So uh when we

467
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:34,400
presented it to the committee, it
originally was a $625,500

468
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:41,599
request. Uh, Commissioner WHM had some
concerns with uh you all funding the

469
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:47,520
entire Baker City downtown um costs for
the upcoming budget year and so we

470
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:51,839
reduced that uh to cover what you had
already agreed to through October and

471
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,240
then said the city would would cover the
rest. So we reduced our request from

472
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,920
625500
to 575500.

473
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,599
Um,
from our perspective, we believe this is

474
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,560
a fair request to the county. It allows
us to have the needed funds for the

475
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,640
transition to give that smooth
transition. Uh, and it addresses the

476
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:17,839
county's concern that the funds only be
spent in accordance with the county TLT

477
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:25,200
ordinance. Um, so, uh, if approved, this
request, uh, and including the $200,000

478
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:29,440
court plaza requests, that, uh, reflects
at or a little bit under 50% of the

479
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:35,359
projected remaining balance. uh what
what we mentioned in the committee

480
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:39,040
presentation and in the and in the uh um
narrative part of the application is

481
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,359
that uh you know there's a good chance
that that ending fund balance could be

482
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:47,920
nearly $2 million by the end of this
budget year. Um in which case we're not

483
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,920
going to try to come back and ask for
for more money. So it you know at at the

484
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:59,359
very least this is going to leave the
county with uh $800,000 plus and likely

485
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:04,480
uh potentially up to $1.2 2 million. So,
we think this is a very fair request and

486
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,760
we ask for your support.
>> I do have a question. Um,

487
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,599
» on the tourism related facilities on the
one that you presented, it was just

488
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,839
» generic 100,000,
>> right?

489
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:18,400
» So, could we just throwing this out
here, could we put the Cork Street Plaza

490
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,160
in there and then, I don't know, just
make it so that it's all there instead

491
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,359
of having a separate one and that would
be your tourism related facility. I'm

492
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,480
just throwing that out there. There's
several problems with that with the

493
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:36,079
Court Street Plaza. Number one, TLTC did
say that they approved it contingent on

494
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:44,480
proof that it actually falls into line
with Ora's uh rules and uh that that

495
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:52,720
that is a and so I clarified with uh
with Orla uh and I sent that to Tyler uh

496
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:58,960
and uh on that they uh Ora talked about
so that is not before us right now that

497
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:03,680
is with TLT. it has to go back to TLT on
the 15th uh with the proof in order for

498
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:09,040
that to move forward. Okay,
>> bottom line. Um it it doesn't fit. It

499
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:15,280
does they don't it it doesn't have
parking. Um and then when he was talking

500
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:19,440
about parks that fit they were the three
larger three larger parks that he gave

501
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,640
he sent me examples of and I forwarded
to the TLTC to decide if they feel that

502
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:29,200
it was that it's comparable and it's not
at all. It's not comparable at all with

503
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:33,440
what he was saying uh actually fits. So
that court street plaza should not be in

504
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,040
this conversation at all because it's
going back to the TLTC on the 15th.

505
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:40,480
» Okay.
>> Okay.

506
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:46,560
um on the other tourism uh when you're
talking about tourism related facilities

507
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:55,839
and um that it fits your typical uh you
even though TLT uh C did approve it um

508
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:02,880
from this from this list you did not
identify like normally people would have

509
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:11,119
to identify um uh requesting for a
tourism related facility uh let me

510
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:17,040
you it was not stated
um what the facility would be, what the

511
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:22,720
project would be. You just did a general
facility. Other uh businesses that come

512
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:27,920
and ask for that or other facilities
that ask for that would not be afforded

513
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:31,520
that wide. Um just you we want the money
because we want to use it on tourism

514
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:38,720
related facilities. They would have to
tell you specifically the project and

515
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:44,800
the facility. Okay. um on the
BCD. Um so you you even though you you

516
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:52,240
reduced it, you didn't reduce it on this
list, it's still at 80,000. Um but in

517
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:58,480
the city council meeting, you stated
that you were going to

518
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:03,680
take over that contract July 1st with
BCD.

519
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:10,079
that you stated that and so either you
take it over on July 1st or we pay it

520
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:14,960
monthly to BCD through October through
the end of that contract and it

521
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:22,079
shouldn't be in here along with the uh
shrine game for 10,000 because uh that

522
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:27,599
is actually included in the budget for
next year on the 227 227 budget uh for

523
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:33,359
next year. It should not be included on
here. that's not that's not part of it

524
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:42,160
because it is in in budget. So, um if
and and that's 25,000 instead of 80,000

525
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:46,720
uh for BCD contract. Um so, just a
couple things uh just the tourism

526
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:54,160
related facilities. I don't believe that
you gave uh what normally would be

527
00:41:50,560 --> 00:42:02,800
typical of um presentation and ask on
that one. Um there's a lot of fluff in

528
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:07,359
the list that you ask for. Um you will
have funds for the 1A basketball

529
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:13,119
tournament for 2026 by the time that
comes around. Uh I can go through it

530
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:17,680
line by line, but uh what I am willing
to

531
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,079
okay is the tax board training and
materials.

532
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:27,920
uh realistically for a th000 development
of marketing marketing tools

533
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:34,560
realistically for 6,000 brand
development 10,000 digital content and

534
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:41,359
asset creation$10,000
that's a total of 27,000 and then plus

535
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:46,400
the 25,000 contract uh for BCD and then
10,000 for um the shrine that is going

536
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:54,880
to be in the budget for those two items
but the out of this list. I can see

537
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:59,839
27,000 actually fitting the uh request
>> out of 570,000.

538
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,160
» Yes. Yep. And I can explain every one of
them if you want me to. If you want to

539
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,640
take that time.
>> What you universally came up with is

540
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:07,599
238,000.
>> What's that?

541
00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:10,880
» The bottom number you have here is 238.
>> That's not why it says.

542
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,560
» Yeah.
>> Oh, that's 238,500. That's if I you two

543
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:22,160
decide that you want to give them all
the 238 or whatever. But I I will let

544
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,680
you know that I'm at 27,000
>> plus the BCD plus the shrine.

545
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:31,280
» 27,000.
>> 27,000 which is the top green

546
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:33,040
highlighted those uh one, two, three,
four.

547
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:38,640
» You only want to do these.
>> Yes. Oh,

548
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:43,040
» because I and and um just because of
certain things which I like I told you

549
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,160
like the development of marketing uh
electronic and marketing tools they're

550
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,640
at 20,000
um amount based on the cost of domain

551
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,560
name purchase web hosting and using an
online website provider social media

552
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,920
sites
um provides social media accounts at no

553
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:05,599
cost. Um really that's a realistic
number at 6,000.

554
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:12,079
uh the other let me see tourism
associated cost which is the fifth one

555
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:16,640
down that was 2,000 reduced that to500
so this is going off of the total

556
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:23,440
238,500
um just looking at the memberships for

557
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:31,200
ODA or
OTTA and EOVA realistically it's um at

558
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:37,520
1,500
Uh let me see if we skip down to

559
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:43,200
collaboration marketing. Um that was at
25 that was reduced down to 20.

560
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:47,359
Uh the line item entails both private
and public entities working together to

561
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:52,319
achieve boards scale marketing efforts.
It's just I mean I could keep on going

562
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:58,319
through all of these on why the 238,500
out of their request of 570,500

563
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:02,480
and I could go through all 14 of those
if you want.

564
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,319
» So this came And and you were at the TLT
meeting, correct?

565
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,560
» Yes.
>> And you only objected to

566
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,880
» I did not object at all. I only observe
in the TLT.

567
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,280
» I understand that. But you made them
come up with the $25,000 figure.

568
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,839
» I didn't make anybody come up with
>> for

569
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,119
» I didn't make anybody come up with
anything. the 25,000

570
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,680
» June
>> the 25,000 for BCD that's listed on

571
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:29,599
there is what is in the budget and I
already stated that along with the

572
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:35,119
10,000 for the shrine game
>> with the contract with BCD do you want

573
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:37,839
to take it over in in what is it July
>> July one

574
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:40,800
» or do you want us to carry it to the end
contract

575
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:46,000
» we are willing to take it over on July 1
if you transfer the $25,000 from what

576
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:53,599
you committed to that's what I was
talking about in the council BCD

577
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:57,599
though and not the city if we do that.
>> I am fine with that as well. It doesn't

578
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,720
it doesn't matter whether it goes
straight to BCD or not. Our point was

579
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,640
» Yeah, it does.
>> You you all clearly

580
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,760
» want this to be a clean break. So, this
was a way to make it a clean break of

581
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:15,839
but that's okay. Fine. Give BCD the
$25,000 you committed to. we will cover

582
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:19,040
the rest of that year and then you don't
have to worry about them starting July

583
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,599
1st. So that
>> so we would end the contract. Is it 30

584
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:26,240
or 60 days? I don't what for her
contract.

585
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:30,720
» No, her hers ends October 31st.
>> But if they want to take over,

586
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,920
» they can get send us a bill,
>> right? But we have to end the contract

587
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,920
and they have to come up with their own.
>> It doesn't they're going to have to do

588
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,520
their own contract. We have to end ours.
I'm just

589
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:46,079
» think October 31st.
>> Um,

590
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:50,400
» if they take the contract over and they
cut ties with the county, we got to give

591
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,000
them 30 or 60 days.
>> BCD.

592
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,400
» Yeah.
>> Baker City downtown is not Baker City,

593
00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:01,040
though. So, Baker City downtown is
contracted through TLT and the county.

594
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,480
We are going to pay them through October
when the contract ends. But they're

595
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,280
saying that they want to
>> We don't want We're just giving options.

596
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,480
» Well, well, which do you prefer?
>> It is easier to do that.

597
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,000
» Yeah,
>> it is easier to do that.

598
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,760
» Okay. So, we just maintain the contract
as it is

599
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,800
through October.
>> We just want that contract honored

600
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:28,240
through the end of October.
>> Okay. Yeah. I yeah I would I mean

601
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:31,680
because she's our contractor and
>> and because it's it's in it and it is

602
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,079
listed in the budget right now along
with the shrine. So it's just it's just

603
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:42,319
makes sense that it would it would just
be paid directly during those times the

604
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:46,240
shrine thing out.
>> Yeah, I think both those are reasonable.

605
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:51,680
I think on the tourist related facility,
your county budget has a tourist related

606
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:56,079
facility line item that is not
identified with specific facilities.

607
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,720
That was our intent was to
>> I think that's based on the the grants

608
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,839
and stuff like that. So I have an idea.
>> So

609
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,560
» okay, go ahead.
>> Just before so we are going to create

610
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:11,359
our own PLT commission, right?
>> Then distribute these funds very

611
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:16,079
similarly to the way it's done now. So
in order to

612
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:19,200
fund that commission and those programs,
you would need those funds without an

613
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,680
identified
>> right

614
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,440
» uh project. Yes.
>> But it goes against the ordinance. Yeah.

615
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:33,599
» So, so just to so
>> I with the 57500 if we take out the 10

616
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:42,160
for the shrine game
>> and take out the 25 and um

617
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:46,480
» and the and the A1 B tournament.
>> Yeah, they'll have the funding by then.

618
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:51,359
There's no reason to leave that.
That's fine. Okay. So, on the 100,000.

619
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,119
So,
what I would propose is maybe not

620
00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:01,359
include the 100,000 now, but give the
city by the end of June 30th time to

621
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:05,280
come up with a pro a plan or a grant for
the $100,000 tourism related facility to

622
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,359
come up with that idea. Um, whether it
be the Court Street Plaza to include in

623
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:13,760
that or whatever. Um, I do think it
needs to be more specific, but that's

624
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:17,920
the only thing that I object to in this
in this proposal. Um, the more I look at

625
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:22,240
it, it needs to be more defined um based
on the ordinance. And so, um, that would

626
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:27,520
be and then I would like to entertain
that you could come back, you know, for

627
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,119
$100,000, leave that on the table, come
back with $100,000 request.

628
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,240
» Okay,
>> that's my suggestion.

629
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:41,119
» I would also like uh the cooperative
marketing uh at zero. Um,

630
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:46,800
that is
>> you don't want us to do any cooperative

631
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:50,960
marketing with the county? Um that's so
Jessica and Travel Baker County have

632
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:59,119
that in their budget uh for cooperative
marketing. So um the uh line item is

633
00:49:55,839 --> 00:50:03,119
redundant with the uh coop with the
collaboration marketing above it. You

634
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:10,000
have collaboration marketing, you have
cooperative marketing. Um to me that's

635
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:16,640
the same and I would put that at zero
because that's a double ask there. I

636
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:18,400
would say zero for event grants. Um I
don't know.

637
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,440
» So when
>> because there is no list of event grants

638
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:30,640
events that that you're going to be uh
grant uh doing. BCD is receiving

639
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:36,160
» uh funding and and all of that for Baker
City downtown events. Um I don't know. I

640
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:42,400
tried thinking of any event that um is
not Baker City downtown um that's

641
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:49,520
already being funded. Um, also I have
zero on uh wayfinding physical products

642
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:55,599
and wayfinding electron. Nope, no, no,
no, no, sorry. Uh, let me see here.

643
00:50:51,839 --> 00:51:00,880
Wayfinding electronic products and the
travel and training. Um, and

644
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,240
» the wayfinding is one of the biggest
things we want to do is putting up

645
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,079
several signs as well as electronic
wavefinding which will significantly

646
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,720
enhance
>> student. So that no the wayfinding

647
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:16,800
physical uh is still in there at 100,000
but the electronic is at zero just due

648
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:21,280
to um
online wayfinding services that that are

649
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:25,280
at no cost such as Google for business
or something like that.

650
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:30,160
» So can they can they work with Jessica
with the datafy? I mean we're paying

651
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:33,760
they're paying x amount of dollars to do
the datafy. Isn't there a way to

652
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:38,160
» they can work with Jessica all day long
every day if they want to. They don't

653
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:40,559
collaborative marketing and all that
stuff.

654
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,119
» So that's the collaborative marketing is
still funded up there. Collaborative

655
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:45,680
have 20,000.
>> Okay. So what's the difference between

656
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:50,319
collaborative and cooperative? I don't
understand. I didn't understand that.

657
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:54,680
» Yeah. They're they're both intended. So
>> I I just let Barry

658
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:02,480
go ahead. Well, Barry doesn't know. The
difference is

659
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:07,200
» co-optive is like when you do a co-op
>> and the businesses downtown don't have

660
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:13,040
to pay the whole thing for a trade
magazine or the

661
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:16,160
» and and the other one is when you work
with different entities in the county or

662
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:22,000
or
>> soounding. These are budget line items

663
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:26,720
in the county's budget is the thing. And
our our position is to not

664
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:30,160
» significantly degrade our requests
because we think it's reasonable. We

665
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,359
think the number is reasonable. All of
those line items are in your county

666
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:38,720
budget
>> and we think it's a very fair request.

667
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,760
If we if we get down to $20,000, that's
totally unreasonable.

668
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:47,520
» Well, I'm going down the list and
justifying the 238,500.

669
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:53,599
Um the travel and training we also have
it zero because that's redundant. Um

670
00:52:50,800 --> 00:53:00,400
again uh it's already up there with
trade shows and conventions. So actually

671
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:06,720
if you'll see that list for 238,500
you had trade shows conventions at

672
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:12,079
2,000. Actually that was up to 5,000 and
then this um travel and training taken

673
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:15,839
away. Um and then the last one that I
removed from there was the tourism

674
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:21,359
related facilities for the 100,000. So
that's how the 238,500.

675
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:28,000
There is some redundancy. There is um
did up a couple of those lines that were

676
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:32,319
lower like the guide distribution and um
the trade show conventions lines. So

677
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:37,040
some of some of the lines increased,
some of them decreased. I think that we

678
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:42,640
just need to make sure that in here and
in travel baker county budget that we

679
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:47,119
work together because I I foresee this
is me and we're going to the boy down at

680
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,839
the airport or you going to the Seattle
airport and you see a travel Baker

681
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:55,119
County
>> one and you see a travel Baker city and

682
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:58,240
that's what I think we don't need just
that just I think that would make us the

683
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,960
laughing stop if we do something like
that.

684
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,960
» Wow. when
>> IGA has ended. So

685
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:10,400
» when we talked about this all through
the process, I've always said the last

686
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:16,800
thing we need to do is make this
competitive between the two because

687
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,559
» we're coming into,
you know, I owned a business on Main

688
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:26,720
Street and had to shut the thing down
because we weren't making any money.

689
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:31,920
people quit coming in and it just I just
didn't want to continue throwing money

690
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:36,559
into it until things get better. I was
expecting to have a much more robust

691
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:42,720
tourist season than I'm expecting right
now, just because I've been in the

692
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:48,559
industry for a long time doing tourism
and outdoor recreation. And if the gas

693
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:53,359
prices are up and tariffs are up and
people can't afford to travel, it's all

694
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:59,359
going to be pretty low. You're going to
have like a a try

695
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:05,359
try county pull to get people to come
in. And if you're if if all of these

696
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:10,640
entities are working against each other
for marketing and exposure, it's going

697
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,880
to be disastrous. and the county and the
city and the citizens that rely on all

698
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:19,520
of this
are are going to be in trouble. It's not

699
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,920
going to be good. You guys have a
tourism industry. The county has

700
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:27,760
tourism, agriculture,
and healthcare.

701
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:32,559
» Yeah. And that is that is marked out on
the agriculture, too. I I can't imagine

702
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:36,319
any agriculture within the city, but
>> maybe I just left that as culinary.

703
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:42,000
» Well, there are some people growing some
stuff, but it's not the kind you

704
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:47,280
advertise. So we can go back to a lot of
things but and

705
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:50,319
» everything is interconnected.
It is because you have your average

706
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,720
coming into Baker City,
>> right?

707
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,720
» And they bring, you know, you look at
the Thomas sale, you look at Allens, you

708
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,040
look at Carol's, you look at a lot of
these people that have the sales,

709
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:02,480
they're bringing people in
and where are they staying? They're

710
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,559
staying in Baker.
>> I think what I want to reiterate is

711
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:13,839
we're we're trying to
start, you know, ways of marketing and

712
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:18,079
and using firms that are in Boisee, in
Portland, in Seattle. And so we're not

713
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,520
just going to market Baker City, we're
also going to market the county events

714
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:28,240
through those me. That's what the
cooperative marketing is. So

715
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:32,240
» now you have more marketing going for
the entire area. So I don't know why you

716
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,559
would be opposed to that because it's
going to it's going to benefit the

717
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:39,520
county as well as the city when we're
doing these things.

718
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:46,119
» Well, it's still in there. 20 20,000 for
the collaborative.

719
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,119
So the

720
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:58,319
the big large number on this with
tourism related facility I

721
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:03,440
not terribly interested. I I do want to
get you guys set up to continue on

722
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:09,200
because this is a lousy time of year to
be trying to make this transition.

723
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:16,079
» Yeah. But we've already funded
a lot of large items, large large ticket

724
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:24,359
items in the city. But as far as So I
mean

725
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:24,359
for, you know, for my money, I'd be

726
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:31,119
I'd be interested in and I I don't know.
I I mean, I know you guys worked on the

727
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:35,440
Port Plaza a lot, but
>> but it you need to leave that up to TLTC

728
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,920
right now because it does not fit. But
I'm not

729
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:41,359
» with the with the funding. But without
that,

730
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,359
» I'm not and and you guys have worked
really hard on the court plaza, but I'm

731
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:51,839
not terribly interested in it because
we've funded so many big items with the

732
00:57:48,960 --> 00:58:00,079
golf course and and in Geyser Pullman.
But, you know, and so I mean, if we pull

733
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:05,920
out 20,000 in the East West Shrine and
the 1A tournament and and the tourism

734
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:08,880
related facilities and bring it down to
47 uh what is that?

735
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:14,880
» 4255.
>> 425.

736
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:20,079
» Yeah. 4255. It would get you guys set up
and started and then you can come back

737
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:22,480
and and like I said the 10,000 for East
West Shrine that you're good to go on

738
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,400
that.
>> Yeah, that's going to go directly to you

739
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,200
guys.
>> We've already done the 1A tournament. So

740
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:30,240
that's from us
>> that's there but

741
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,520
» yeah.
>> So you all are paying them directly for

742
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:38,240
this?
>> We would we would hold that for the this

743
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,400
this for 2025
>> for the 2025.

744
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,920
So
my proposal would be the what is that 4

745
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:48,559
» 425
>> 425

746
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,680
» 4255
>> Yeah.

747
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,280
» And can they come back then with
>> it's up to them.

748
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,040
» Yeah. Well, yeah.
>> They'd have to go back to TTC.

749
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:58,240
» Go back to
>> go back to

750
00:58:55,839 --> 00:59:02,480
» TLT. But they have they have to
understand they have to know is the

751
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:05,920
commissioners is it worth their time
>> for us to do that for you to do that or

752
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,960
you know they're just going to go
through the numbers and then you come

753
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,280
back and and and
we say no.

754
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:15,680
» I would look at it like you normally
look at a request for tourism related

755
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,640
facilities. What are the facilities and
what are the projects?

756
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,920
» All right.
>> Not just

757
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:30,359
» but as far as getting you set up
to operate I'm okay with it. I'm

758
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,359
tourism related facility out.

759
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:37,200
» Is that a motion?
>> He can't make a motion.

760
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:38,880
» I can only make I Robert's rule says I
can't, but I'd rather have one of the

761
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:47,520
other.
>> Um I'd like to make a motion to approve

762
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:54,880
um the TLT request for 425,500.
um with the caveat that the city goes

763
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:58,559
back to TLT to define the tourism
related facilities.

764
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:02,200
» That's the 100,000 in addition to the
>> in addition to the first

765
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,160
» I'll second

766
01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:15,280
[Music]
any more any further discussion

767
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,599
saying none. All in favor say I.
>> I.

768
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,200
» I. Motion carries.
>> Appreciate the support. Thank you.

769
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,280
» All right.
Would you like to discuss that today?

770
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Would you like us?
>> No, that's up to the TLTC.

771
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:32,880
» Um
I don't I don't have

772
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:39,599
» Yeah. And I don't have
>> I don't have the emails or the

773
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:43,359
information on the design or the oral.
>> Well, it doesn't matter. It's It has to

774
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:47,839
go back to
a point of order. Did you Did you vote?

775
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,720
on that.
>> Yes.

776
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,720
» Okay.

777
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:02,079
» All right. Um, next we want to do the
What do we got? Cameras.

778
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:05,760
» Yes.
>> Which one?

779
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:10,960
» The cameras. CLTC recommended the
cameras for uh Hulcom.

780
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:15,359
» It was It was right with the other with
the city. It was like

781
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:19,559
» I know. I keep losing it, too.
Yeah, it was pinned with it.

782
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:34,000
» Well, everybody just jump all in at
once.

783
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:40,079
» I thought Tyler was gonna maybe So, the
TLT approved it. It's cameras.

784
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:47,599
» Well, I I cameras for um Hulcom
specific. It is Huitt and Hulkcom. Did

785
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:51,520
you put any out at the um
>> we don't have infrastructure yet?

786
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,440
» Okay. So, this is just for those out
there.

787
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:58,240
» This is just for that because there is
none on Hulcom. There is a few at Huitt

788
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:02,240
right now, but um
>> definitely the ones that were put up at

789
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,680
Huitt cut down on the
>> work with the ones that are already

790
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:10,319
there.
>> Oh, yeah.

791
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:14,040
» Yep. all the um
did they not give the

792
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:23,599
Oh, I thought that the uh
information was there. Oh, there it is.

793
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:28,240
» Yeah. Yes. Okay.
>> Mine went just Oh, there it is. Okay.

794
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,839
Yeah. Just showing um the
>> talking to me about it for a year and a

795
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,680
half.
>> She's been she she's been trying for a

796
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,400
long time. It's not
>> I've got it. I've got it envisioned in

797
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,440
my mind.
>> We've got there Idaho power just

798
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:44,720
invested a whole bunch of money down
there and I just think that we need to

799
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:49,359
» and with the office being over at Hwitt
Hulk and there's not a presence over

800
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:54,559
there a lot of the time there'll be a
monitor in the office.

801
01:02:51,200 --> 01:03:02,240
» Yeah. Yeah. Um
I move to approve the um the request for

802
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:05,920
um the cameras for Huitt Park.
>> Second.

803
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:09,520
Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?

804
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,000
Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.

805
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:15,119
» I. Motion carries.
>> Point of order. Does she?

806
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,319
» Yeah. What did you
>> Did I say I?

807
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:24,760
» I don't know. I She says I
>> So motion carries unanimously.

808
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,760
Jessica,

809
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:29,799
» we're driving you crazy on these chaos.

810
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:38,480
» I said no, actually. Not May.
>> May.

811
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,400
» Yes.
>> Hello again.

812
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:42,400
» Hello.
>> Not sick this time.

813
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,440
» Good.
>> That was a long bow.

814
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:50,559
» Every month.
>> Every Yeah.

815
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:59,039
» Okay. So, um I did take this information
back to the CLT and um I submitted a

816
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:05,599
bunch of uh quotes for you guys. Sorry
that one was late last night or this

817
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:07,440
morning. I'm not sure when you got it.
Um

818
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,920
» yesterday.
>> So the committee did reapprove for

819
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:18,160
natural structures
um for the three kiosks. Um so the price

820
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:24,960
has gone up just a little bit from the
last time he quoted us. It's been over

821
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:30,200
30 days since he quoted us last. So um
it looks like for the three would be

822
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,200
29,6235

823
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:38,079
down at the bottom of this sheet.
>> Staff report.

824
01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:40,960
Yes.
>> Okay.

825
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,200
» So in talking so we were looking at
Sumpter Unity and Huntington.

826
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,839
» Correct.
>> Okay. So do we have where we're going to

827
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:50,160
put those?
>> I am working with Linda. She is out

828
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:55,599
measuring. She was out measuring
yesterday. I have repeatedly reached out

829
01:04:53,039 --> 01:05:01,599
to Unity and Huntington and have not
heard back. So, I'm continually doing

830
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:08,160
that. Um, if you have a better contact
of who I could reach out to you,

831
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:09,680
» both of the mayors and their reporters.
>> Yeah.

832
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:15,599
» Yeah, that would be the people.
>> That's what I thought. So, um

833
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:20,480
I don't know. Maybe I'll just give them
a call instead of uh emailing seeing if

834
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,400
they got my email. So,
>> so you have one confirmed replacement um

835
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,520
» for Sumpter
>> for Sumpter. So, it's probably a cost

836
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:34,480
saving for you if you did three compared
to Or is would Natural Structures be

837
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:38,880
would they give you the same price for
one?

838
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:44,400
» It is by price. Yeah. So, it's like
9,000

839
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:49,119
six. I don't have I'm not good at math.
So, it's like 9,6

840
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:52,799
and something for each one.
>> Okay. So they're not giving you a a

841
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,079
quantity discount of three that you'd
miss out on or whatever.

842
01:05:54,559 --> 01:06:00,319
» So you So you could get this.
>> I could just get one. Correct. Yes.

843
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,200
» Well, probably better do that because if
you can't

844
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:08,240
» I'm just having a really hard time
paying three times the price

845
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,280
» if I just I can't in this economy and
with our budgets and things like that. I

846
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,680
we just went through this whole budget
thing. I just I can't support that. I

847
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:22,160
know we want to do local, but not for
three times the price.

848
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:26,559
Well, and they're not
>> comparable. Yeah.

849
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,599
» In material in the material.
>> But these guys, they put them up all the

850
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:34,079
time. You know, the wood, you have wood
out of the chamber, right?

851
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,559
» And it's been there for how many years?
>> Long time.

852
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:40,880
» Long time. And the one that's the one
that has all the services, you know, um

853
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:43,440
the Rotary Alliance, it's been there for
how many years? Long time. And it's

854
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,119
wood.
>> I'm just not sure that it's worth it.

855
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:52,000
You know, the one in the reservoir is
wood. It's not being used much because

856
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:56,880
but there is one there already.
>> But it's wood. And so why are we

857
01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:02,720
spending three times as much for
nonwood? That's just my concern.

858
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:06,960
» I And I got to thinking, we purchased
the wigwam. We need interpretive work up

859
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:12,720
there.
>> Would any of these outfits if instead of

860
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,319
ordering three, if we're ordering six?
>> But we're not ready at all. There's a

861
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:20,240
lot of history to gather. That's going
to be a year or two out at least.

862
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:23,200
» Well, and there is information panels
out there already.

863
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:28,520
» Not not available.
>> Okay.

864
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,520
» But but they're general

865
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:34,880
side.
>> I mean, they're just building the

866
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:37,520
structure and then the information goes
in secondary, right?

867
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:41,839
» Yes.
>> Yes.

868
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:45,440
» You would need to um hire someone to
install it. So, this does not include

869
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,760
installation prices.
>> It does not.

870
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:55,280
» So, if we wanted to hold off at the end,
I The only thing with that is the prices

871
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:58,000
keep coming up on stuff, but
>> Well, then we have the budget right now.

872
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:04,799
That's what I
>> You could go back to TLT and request.

873
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:08,240
» Well, you could get the quotes for six.
Well, if he gets the Okay.

874
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:11,599
» No, we don't want we don't want this
type down there. We're using some of the

875
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,680
old metal and stuff like that for the
kiosk down there. There's a plan for the

876
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:20,000
w for the wigwam. It doesn't include any
of that stuff in here. It's way more

877
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:25,040
simplified.
The the way finding is already there

878
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:28,880
next to the wigwam at our current um
Hell's Canyon Scenic Byway. All of that

879
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:33,520
information is in the works right now
from Hell's Canyon Chamber to be updated

880
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:39,120
down there. Um any of the wavefinding
and things like that through the Wigwam

881
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:43,920
area is I literally a couple years out.
I mean, literally. And we're and like I

882
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:47,679
say, we're reusing metal pieces, old
grates and things like that for like the

883
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:52,000
upright, the posts and different things.
So, it's going to be very very low cost.

884
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:56,799
It's not and and it's nothing that she
could she consider in her budget now or

885
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:01,120
any any time
>> or taking it, you know, using the budget

886
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:05,759
towards anything like that.
>> So, I think the only thing to consider

887
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:10,960
here is the actual, you know, whether
she gets one or three. one would make

888
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:16,640
sense just because of the lack of
communication with the other two um

889
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:23,440
cities which is unfortunate.
>> It is. Yeah. They're kind of the under

890
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:26,880
» Well, those are the two that that
everybody has felt that they needed

891
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:29,920
assistance the most,
>> right?

892
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:33,520
» So,
>> I mean, it'll be good for some sure, but

893
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:37,440
they've got,
>> you know, two of the biggest tourism

894
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,520
pools in the county. So,
I guess because they're faster on

895
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,600
jumping.
>> They do. Unity has such opportunity,

896
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:49,120
» right?
>> For the veil to John Bay.

897
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:52,120
» It's it's it's huge.
So,

898
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:57,199
» and this is like this is the one that
it's a community resour looks just like

899
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,199
that.
>> And that wasn't that's not Baker County

900
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,040
though.
>> No, it's

901
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:07,040
BLM.
or it's even state parks because that is

902
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:09,280
a state park actually
>> but I'm just saying and it's been there

903
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,640
for a long time
>> and Jeffrey was for when Jeffrey was

904
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:17,520
with the weed department he was looking
at that and putting up information um

905
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:21,679
and talked to Oregon parks about it at
that time. So yeah, that one is kind of

906
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,360
strange. It's like forgotten.
>> Is that the one from Wilderness Graphics

907
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:29,440
that you were just showing? That one's
metal, too. I think

908
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:32,480
» this quote's good for 30 days, right?
>> Yes.

909
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:36,400
Oh, that's metal. Okay.
>> Quote is good for 30 days from May.

910
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,960
» Okay. So, the difference between
Wilderness Graphics, I'm going to go

911
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,280
back to Natural Structures. I apologize.
I thought that this one was wood as

912
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:45,600
well. Um,
>> they're close in price.

913
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:50,719
» No, they're not. That's half.
Wilderness is 5,000.

914
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:54,560
» Thought it was nine.
>> Oh, shipping and handling. You're right.

915
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:58,320
Sorry, I missed the shipping handling.
>> Bring it back on the 22nd.

916
01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:03,440
» Well, no, I No, because she she just
clarified that the that that one is is

917
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:08,800
really close and they're the same.
There's not a huge discrepancy in price

918
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:13,600
on one um
between the wilderness and the natural

919
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:18,239
structures other than
natural structure more um

920
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,640
» Okay. So, the Kirby built one is the one
that was wooden.

921
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:27,600
» Yeah. And
>> is the wilderness one two-sided like the

922
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,760
structure?
>> Yes.

923
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:35,760
» Okay.
So yeah, really close uh and and uh with

924
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,960
our local
manufacturer.

925
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:42,080
» Whichever one you go with, if you can do
the one, we could do that today unless

926
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:47,360
they say no, that was
>> I don't see why not because Sumpter is

927
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:50,400
making plans and um communicating and
everything. I don't see why we couldn't

928
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:55,760
approve one today. We could only thing
I'm saying is if if for some reason it

929
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,719
was that price was for the three then we
have to

930
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:05,520
» No, it doesn't stated
>> right there's any discount for free.

931
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:11,239
» So this one is 29 $2,800. The curvy one
>> it's $2,800 that include it does include

932
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:11,239
shipping

933
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:17,679
» and doublesided and and I could see that
because it's um it offers is that

934
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:22,719
doublesided?
>> Yep. So that would offer two spaces

935
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:30,800
instead of four
like natural structures is if you had um

936
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:39,520
» where this is four panels,
>> two panels double-sided and then the

937
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:44,840
belt is one panel double-sided. So she's
just going for four panels double-sided.

938
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,480
different.
>> It's not the same.

939
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:52,880
» So many papers.
>> I know there's a lot to it

940
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:56,159
» when you look at this one. And then this
one has room for brushes, things like

941
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,280
that where this one, the natural
structure does not.

942
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:04,560
» Correct. The natural structured one does
not have room for brushes.

943
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:07,760
» Yep. And and actually I think that's an
advantage because you see those

944
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:12,000
brochures
fold and

945
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:17,920
» tossed around or just people do it on
purpose. have seen it at the way sides

946
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:21,360
like that. If you have loose paper, I
see this one is, you know, situated a

947
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:29,239
zoo with the zoo papers in it. I mean,
that's but I wouldn't I wouldn't put

948
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:29,239
loose papers on the kiosk.

949
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:36,000
» Well, I think um reaching out to Unity
and Huntington again. Yeah.

950
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,520
» Um
>> you can always come bring it back for

951
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:43,679
the other two if we could one.
>> Absolutely.

952
01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:46,960
» If I can. get them to
>> to reach out

953
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:51,679
» any communication.
>> Now, I would

954
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:57,840
if you do go for one, I would need to
get a new one from Chad that just says

955
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:02,320
one and the price
a new quote because I don't think you'd

956
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:05,320
want to sign one that says for three if
you're

957
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,440
» so

958
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:16,159
have a hard time spending $9,000 on it.
>> What's that?

959
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:18,239
» I'm having a hard time spending $9,000
on it.

960
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:22,880
» Just
>> Yeah. And and it's just not comparable

961
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:30,120
with that rebuilt
>> in size and everything else

962
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,120
it shows have.

963
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:45,360
Well, I'll make a motion to approve one
uh kiosk for uh Trouble Baker County. um

964
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:52,159
through natural structures um but I
don't have that total number in front of

965
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:58,679
me. Let me see for total cost. Let me
look at it really quick.

966
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,679
I'm not

967
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:01,719
so

968
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,239
sorry
29062.35

969
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:20,440
for the amount of $9,68745.

970
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:23,719
5.

971
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:33,360
» What was the amount?
>> $9,68745

972
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:36,679
cents for one kiosk
for something.

973
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:47,800
» Okay. All right.
>> Then I'll I'll second.

974
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,800
» Any further discussion?

975
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,640
None. All in favor say I.
>> I. I legendary

976
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:56,719
» abstain
>> and one extension.

977
01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:01,520
» So I will reach out to Chad and get a
quote that has one and he would need

978
01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:05,280
your signature on this quote.
>> Yeah.

979
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:08,320
» Okay. So I will bring that back out in
session

980
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:13,440
» on the um if you want it signed out of
session then we'll have to do that.

981
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:18,320
Otherwise on the 21st
>> if it's for this amount I should be fine

982
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,760
to sign it. Oh,
>> if it's something changes,

983
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:26,120
» then we'll have to just do it all again
on the 22nd.

984
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:26,120
» Okay. 21st.

985
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,880
» Is that right?
>> 7* 3. Today's the 7th.

986
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:37,120
» Okay.
>> And then I have one more question. Um,

987
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:45,280
so with the money that you just approved
for Baker City, is that going to be

988
01:16:39,679 --> 01:16:47,600
coming out of 2425 budget or 2526
budget? No, it it's gonna come out of

989
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,199
the current
>> this. Okay. Oh, yeah, it has.

990
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,320
» Yes, it has to because that's a deadline
of June 30th.

991
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,640
» Okay. So, the reason I asked is because
I'm pretty sure we're already approved

992
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:04,080
my budget once again.
>> Yeah, you're going to have to go back to

993
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:08,960
TLTC with your budget again. I mean,
well, no, you got it for 25. Yeah,

994
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:12,000
right.
In 256, you included not being part of

995
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:16,640
that, right?
>> Correct. I didn't put any extra money

996
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:19,120
than what we needed
and the 10,

997
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:23,760
» right? That's why I was asking because I
was like, okay, so we need that lump sum

998
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:30,640
in the budget to be able to give it out.
>> It'll come out of this year's and then

999
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:33,440
so yes, ne 2526 what you had have now as
the latest

1000
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,120
» should be. Okay.
>> Yeah.

1001
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,600
» Okay.
>> Just the balance is going to change

1002
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,360
then.
>> Sure.

1003
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:45,280
» So, but
>> which is fine. It shouldn't affect what

1004
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:49,040
we we have in there.
>> Right. Right. It's a keeper of all.

1005
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,199
» Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you.

1006
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:59,480
» All right. EDC word property weed
control bid approval.

1007
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:11,760
» Did you see the email that come in?
>> Okay. I was texting. He never told him

1008
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:17,679
to send it to you guys.
>> Oh, okay. Okay. He did not have uh

1009
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:23,000
Commissioner Caseburg's email. It's from
St. Francis.

1010
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,000
» Um

1011
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:29,320
» I talked about that at the end.
>> Okay. Yeah.

1012
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:39,280
I'll forward it to you.
See? Wait. Sorry. Go.

1013
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:44,640
Go ahead. I'm sorry.
>> So, um

1014
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:50,880
the amazing thing is that Jesse did some
great work when she presented to us um

1015
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:55,360
the EDC about the weeding and needs that
are out there on the county property

1016
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:59,199
down which is for the board and she came
up with a bunch of great ideas and she

1017
01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:04,239
had a bunch of great you know bids she
got in estimates. um we felt we had

1018
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:08,880
originally budgeted and that'll get to
the budget get there 6,000 for covering

1019
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:14,400
that and she was closer to over 10 less
than 12. She came up some amazing very

1020
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:18,560
well presented ideas and great
information on what to do and we talked

1021
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:22,239
to her also about what if we planted
some other crops on there and the other

1022
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,679
thing so she had some people approach
her about that and she was going to get

1023
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:29,199
some more information and I said work up
a report so we can look at it and get it

1024
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,679
to you guys so you guys could all see as
well. So be like a dryland crop this

1025
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:37,040
fall.
>> Yeah. Or you know as long as they need

1026
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:40,320
whatever makes sense or originally when
we talked to the wards we've given them

1027
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,679
the option of producing on there and
that we would be respectful of them

1028
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:47,120
whenever they you know we wanted to do
something we allow them to take crops to

1029
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:50,159
market. So if they had something that
didn't happen till the fall. So we

1030
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,360
probably have to figure out some kind of
agreement on the same structure which we

1031
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:57,120
already have written up if we did an
agreement with somebody else to produce

1032
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,480
on that of the kind of the same
structure. So if you have something

1033
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,280
we're not going to expect you to put a
lot of cost to the you know expense out

1034
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,400
there will allow you to take it to
market then we'll proceed if we're going

1035
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:10,000
to do anything else in the property.
>> Okay.

1036
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:14,080
» She's going to that's pending coming up.
So this I sent to you guys already which

1037
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:18,080
she had given to us kind of information
about the bid and estimate

1038
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:23,600
» and so from the information she gave us
we adjusted um our budget for that. We

1039
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:26,320
already had you know 6,000 from the last
budget to cover things and I believe

1040
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,719
there'll be one spring that will come
out of that. Is that correct?

1041
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:30,640
» Yes.
>> And then

1042
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,159
» if it's built by June 30th,
>> right? And then we did

1043
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,600
» the next year's budget. We put in
12,000.

1044
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,920
» Okay.
>> To cover everything she projected

1045
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:43,600
knowing that she's going to come up with
a different plan for the crops and other

1046
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:46,960
things because if there's a crop in
there, we're not going to be spraying

1047
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,520
it. We're not going to be weeding it be
doing that. Somebody else will be taking

1048
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:52,960
care of it.
>> So, I thought that was a phenomenal idea

1049
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:58,400
and that would be a part of the the
budget that we can do that. So, any

1050
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:02,080
questions on just that part? So is so
what you included is this just for this

1051
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,840
spring?
>> No,

1052
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:04,719
» this is for going next.
>> Correct.

1053
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:07,280
» Okay.
>> Yes.

1054
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:12,000
» Knowing that part of that, you know, we
also we already recommended and

1055
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,920
budgeted, you know, 6,000,
>> but he hasn't done it yet. Correct.

1056
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,920
» Correct.
>> Okay.

1057
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:19,840
» And that so that's why she has the
schedule in here of the time frame

1058
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,840
» because it covers two budget years.
>> Okay.

1059
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:33,679
» Okay.
Is there any questions on this plan?

1060
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:36,960
» Well, so EDC voted and approved to
recommend,

1061
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:41,199
you know, for this plan to move forward
as is, knowing that we're seeking, you

1062
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:45,800
know, further updates and reports from
Gussy. Yes, she did. Okay.

1063
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:56,560
» Do we need a motion then to approve
that?

1064
01:21:52,400 --> 01:22:00,159
» Yes. Um, I'll move to approve JD Hill
Farms

1065
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:06,400
um
to do um reabatement

1066
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:10,719
um and weed mowing at the word property
on

1067
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:14,880
» Oh,
>> okay. Uh I'll second.

1068
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:19,520
» Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?

1069
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:21,679
» Say none. All in favor say I.
>> I.

1070
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:25,280
» I.
I

1071
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:28,719
» I motion carries.
>> You didn't hear me because we were

1072
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:32,480
talking at the same time.
>> Okay. And then that takes us out of

1073
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:35,440
contract review, but he still has more.
>> So,

1074
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,480
» um
on the

1075
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:45,440
» Yeah. So, yeah, we can close contract
review board and

1076
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:49,040
be I guess kind of an update. So, um, we
made, you know, multiple revisions and

1077
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:53,120
this is the final, uh, budget
presentations. I mean, I think I sent

1078
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:56,719
you guys copies of this already, but
I'll just kind of, you know, go over a

1079
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:01,199
summary of, you know, kind of what we
did. The main thing is we changed, you

1080
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,159
know, the grant cycle from twice a year
to once a year. Um, and the other thing

1081
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:11,280
is we changed the 180 transfer to 90.
Um, we also changed the budget line that

1082
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:15,280
was 6,000 to 12,000. And therefore it
shows on both of these in both places

1083
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:19,679
and the adjustments would be made
accordly and I worked with Christina

1084
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:23,280
Cook on this and so to make sure that
everything was fair for proposal for you

1085
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:29,280
guys to review and get approved by the
budget boards and EDC voted and approved

1086
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:34,800
these to recommended to you guys.
>> Okay,

1087
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:38,639
» any questions on any of that? So because
of that changes, we had to make changes

1088
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:43,520
to several other documents that I had
sent to you guys as well that you know

1089
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:48,239
will affect the grant application. So
the first document is basically just the

1090
01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:52,560
first page of the grant application and
the only changes are going to be in

1091
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:57,360
yellow and so I just wanted you guys to
see that because we had to change the

1092
01:23:53,840 --> 01:24:00,719
wording on this was not an easy thing to
do to figure out the wording. Um and I

1093
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:04,719
just wanted to make sure they covered
it, you know, appropriately.

1094
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:08,159
and met going forward with what we're
going to do with the changes in the IG

1095
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,560
being withdrawn.
>> Looks good.

1096
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:19,360
» Because they will have their own
economic development that they're

1097
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:20,719
offering to city and not outside the
city limits.

1098
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,000
» Correct.
>> Yeah.

1099
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:26,480
» City stated that they want to do their
own economic development. So

1100
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:31,440
» yeah,
>> they committed that they budgeted for

1101
01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:33,920
development officer in it. So they call
it

1102
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:38,800
» that's not in that request and that's
not up to us. That's in their budget.

1103
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:44,239
And um in at the city council meeting,
they also said they were going to put

1104
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:47,440
what we put the 25% that we put to EDC.
>> They said that they're uh during the

1105
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:51,120
city council meeting was that they're
putting 30,000 into the fire department

1106
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:53,199
and the ambulance. So I don't know where
they're getting the funding for their

1107
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:57,040
EDC.
>> I don't know.

1108
01:24:53,840 --> 01:25:00,480
» Or for um that that person, but it's up
to them. It's not us.

1109
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:05,760
» If they take Yeah. I mean it's yeah it's
none of our business but if they

1110
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:09,520
» well then they can take some of their
other money so

1111
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,080
» they can't they can't take out of the 70
>> but I meant

1112
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:18,320
» right
>> oh yeah if if they choose to spend it on

1113
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:22,880
the that 25 and well they said 30%.
>> So and and they may have left that out.

1114
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:27,600
I thought I can't think of the bill
number. I thought the the TLT bill was

1115
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:30,320
dead but apparently there's been a two
amendment.

1116
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:33,760
» They're trying. I hope it dies. Uh
they're trying to push it through, but

1117
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:39,920
I'm not going to testify on behalf of
that. I'm totally against it. That bill

1118
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:43,600
» 3556.
>> Yeah.

1119
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:48,080
» Yeah. It's got a new bill, doesn't it?
>> It's now the

1120
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:53,440
» It gain a new life. It gain a new life.
>> 3962-2.

1121
01:25:51,040 --> 01:26:01,120
» So, it got a -2 amendment somewhere in
committee after it died, but

1122
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:07,679
» yeah, it is. It is now um Paul
Commissioner Anders from Union County

1123
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:15,880
just sent it and it says that um
it's now HB

1124
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,880
where is it HB 3962

1125
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:25,199
for TLT change.
>> So they so if there was

1126
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:28,480
impacted services then you'd be able to
pull out of the seven. So,

1127
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:33,199
» but it doesn't matter because it's not
even through house. That's not even a

1128
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:37,679
conversation now. So, it's um but in but
yes, I like this because they're

1129
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:42,400
supposed to they want to focus on Baker
City limits only and we have to focus on

1130
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:45,120
everything beyond that. So,
>> that's where the funding comes from. So,

1131
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,080
that's
>> on page two. Are you just taking that

1132
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:51,920
line completely out?
>> He's not on that. So, I'll get to that

1133
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:56,320
in a second. That's the next one. So
this is just the uh

1134
01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:00,280
» Oh, you're on
just this.

1135
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,280
» Yeah.

1136
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,159
» Yeah. No, I looked that over. That's
fine.

1137
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:10,400
» Okay.
>> And then if you want to go to the

1138
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:12,719
solicitation guide page,
this one.

1139
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:16,080
» Yep.
>> Try to change the wording on that as

1140
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:18,080
well.
>> It's just highlighted in yellow to

1141
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,880
change that.
>> Yep. Baker County and Baker outside

1142
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,400
Baker Big City,
>> right?

1143
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:28,159
» Yep.
>> And then down below, I changed the

1144
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:32,880
wording to show that it was just annual.
>> And that's the change,

1145
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:37,040
» right, for those the the grant
applications annually.

1146
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:42,560
» And so to date, we've had about60
businesses apply. We have about 60 in

1147
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:49,280
this cycle. Um
20 of them in this last round are

1148
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:53,920
outside the city limits. Um the rest are
inside the city limits.

1149
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:57,920
» Um 50% of those have made it to the
second round. And so the majority of

1150
01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:01,440
those are still in the city limits. The
majority aren't.

1151
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:05,360
» So future ones it'll be clarified at
just outside city. So the total

1152
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,679
» so the ones that are going right now are
>> Yeah. It's everything because it's still

1153
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,960
a budget year
>> because it's convoluted. So we're

1154
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:15,600
honoring what it said in the
application, what it said guide and the

1155
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:21,199
direction and you know where the funds
came from. So this is just going to

1156
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:24,320
affect starting this fall.
>> Yeah. The people that are already

1157
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,000
through the first cycle, it's not fair
to take it out on them,

1158
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,360
» right?
>> Well, no, it's still within our budget

1159
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:33,440
year. No matter what, fairness or not,
it's still within our budget year and

1160
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:38,000
it'll be distributed. I mean, when's the
deadline? When are you going to finish?

1161
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:40,719
» So there is no deadline for ordering. So
we're in the process of going through

1162
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:44,239
usually takes a couple months because we
have to go through we have meetings to

1163
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:47,440
set up with all the businesses still we
have we've already gotten all their

1164
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:50,719
receipts or documents their profit loss
their tax statements and if they didn't

1165
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,120
submit any of that and they're not ready
to business own they don't move on to

1166
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:56,159
the next phase.
>> Sure. But if you do are you going to do

1167
01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:01,679
that by July one?
>> We're going to try to have everything

1168
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:04,560
done to you recommendations so we can
have checks out before the end of the

1169
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:08,480
year.
>> Okay. Fiscal year.

1170
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,440
» Fiscal year. Apologize. Okay.
>> I mean, did you

1171
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,520
» It would be cleaner that way if you
could.

1172
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,760
» Yeah. So, we're really
>> nice if we could have the checks issued

1173
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:19,360
by the
>> That's what you just said.

1174
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:22,000
It would be cleaner.
>> First week in June. Would be great to be

1175
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,600
able to
>> Right. And that's my goal. The checks

1176
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,960
issues. And when the checks get issues,
then the rest of my responsibility falls

1177
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:32,480
in. I make them go out get actual
receipts, give me copies of receipts of

1178
01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:35,760
what they purchased. Then I make them do
a final letter saying how how they used

1179
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:38,560
it for the business, how they helped
their business. And that's all part of

1180
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,280
the records that I submit to you guys.
You guys have later on, right?

1181
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:45,040
» That's part of our due diligence because
they don't do that, they're ineligible

1182
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,679
to ever apply again.
>> Ever. Yeah.

1183
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,639
» Ever.
>> It's written in there. So, so what you

1184
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:58,719
were getting to, Shane, was in the
bylaws portion of it, we had to make

1185
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:07,360
some changes. Um, and on the second page
of the bylaws, page 204 in yellow, um, I

1186
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:12,560
had to restructure this because, um, the
original ORS that we were created out of

1187
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:16,800
identifies that we have nine, you know,
members. And so when we changed it,

1188
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:21,840
obviously there were county only. We had
to change to one exeicio instead of two.

1189
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:26,639
And because of that, that means I had to
add in an al alternate position without

1190
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:30,560
changing the rest of the verbiage of
seven voting members. So by doing that,

1191
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:34,800
we're still meeting the same or
structure of having nine. We have one

1192
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:39,199
exeicio that doesn't do that. And I also
changed the wording to a county

1193
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:42,159
commissioner. So whoever you guys choose
to have, you know, in that

1194
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:46,320
» so we can rotate it if we want to and
whatever every year just like our

1195
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:51,280
committees that we normally
>> it is up to you guys. It's a so you guys

1196
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:53,840
and I intentionally wrote that and so
you guys would have that ability to do

1197
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:57,120
that
>> and then you know the alternate and we

1198
01:30:55,679 --> 01:31:00,719
just clarified some things that they
could vote if somebody else isn't

1199
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:04,639
present and then if somebody withdrew
then they could be at our recommendation

1200
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:09,520
to you guys then moved into a permanent
one.

1201
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:13,520
» So all of so the seven
and the alternate need to be outside of

1202
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:17,679
Baker city limits. We have not addressed
that yet and I didn't think we should

1203
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:23,679
we'll address it at a different point
from direction from you guys what that

1204
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:27,440
looks like and so currently we only have
one person who kind of owns a business

1205
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:30,159
inside the city limits and we have Jeff
which has the whole county we have Leah

1206
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:34,080
which does all the vote techch and
everything and so and Doug you know he's

1207
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:38,719
a retired person so he has no specific
skin of the game anywhere Tyler's the

1208
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:42,400
only one that is tied to a business I
believe Tyler brings the most value to

1209
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:46,000
the table because he's been through TLT
since initiation. He knows more about it

1210
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:52,400
than anybody else.
>> I imagine him going to the city TLT.

1211
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:54,719
» He sits now on the TLT because he's the
representative from EDC,

1212
01:31:54,080 --> 01:32:00,320
» right?
>> And so we should address that in the

1213
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,360
future. I didn't want to cover it at
this point. I just want to fix the bases

1214
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:08,080
that we had moving. Okay.
>> And come back with a recommendation in

1215
01:32:05,679 --> 01:32:13,440
the future. And I've already tc has
already talked about establishing some

1216
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:18,639
sort of criteria. So I've been at
meetings with a lot of other cities.

1217
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:23,679
I can't believe she didn't return that
email to you know Kean's got back. She's

1218
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:28,239
usually pretty good to Siobhan. Yeah.
>> So um you know talked to them. We're in

1219
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:31,199
the mayor's meeting. We said all of you
guys need to have representation.

1220
01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:34,960
Correct. And so a couple weeks ago,
Chris from the chamber and I were down

1221
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:39,040
in halfway talked to about 20 some
different businesses and we said, you

1222
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:41,600
know, who's going to step up? One of you
guys needs to go apply at the county

1223
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:45,679
now.
>> One of you guys needs to apply, you

1224
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,719
know, for EDC. You guys need to step up.
We have opening step if you guys want

1225
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:53,679
representation.
>> Only Yeah. And then if I can address

1226
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:59,040
that kind of caveat, I have been working
on the ordinance for TLT. That's what

1227
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:04,080
» and I do have I am getting close to
getting you a proof. I want to have that

1228
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:12,800
by uh our next meeting. Okay. So, um
that you have that but in

1229
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:18,480
this line of EDC and then TLT um I kept
it at

1230
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:24,400
um the the same the same amount of of
people but the but the way that it that

1231
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:29,360
it it sits that the the members sit the
committee members sit will be um what

1232
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:36,159
what I'm um offering is like somebody
from hospitality instead of attraction

1233
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:42,560
um and a lodging partner and and all of
that. So, and halfway sumpter unity at

1234
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:46,639
large, you know, and and so when this I
feel like when that is formed, when that

1235
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:49,920
is secured on who's going to be sitting
on that, then we can look towards who's

1236
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:56,719
sitting on EDC.
>> So, I don't know. Did you know that EDC

1237
01:33:53,760 --> 01:34:01,120
is created out of the TLT ordinance?
It's not a Okay. Yeah. A lot of the

1238
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:04,400
times they could be a standalone, but in
this case it isn't. So yeah, because

1239
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,960
that's where the funding comes from.
>> Right.

1240
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:12,320
» Right. And and that's where your money
>> and I made sure that nine members for

1241
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:16,560
EDC was kept in this uh through the
change. So that won't change in this

1242
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:19,199
ordinance for EDC to still have nine.
>> So okay,

1243
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:23,520
» this would be part of the conversation
you alluding to. I always thought that

1244
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:26,639
if we could put in there simple wording
because I remember in the meeting with

1245
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:32,480
all the mayors, we talked about the
IGAS. Um, we could say, you know, city

1246
01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:33,920
representation with the current IGA.
>> So they

1247
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:37,280
» Yes. Because
>> they don't have an intergovernment

1248
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:39,520
agreement with the county. To me, it
doesn't make much sense to have

1249
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:40,800
representation,
>> right?

1250
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,080
» And
>> if there's no agreement.

1251
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:49,360
» Yeah. And that's another uh area in
there that specifies the IG with the

1252
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:54,239
other three cities that are
participating in the TLT program. And

1253
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:59,120
then so once the ordinance goes then the
IGA will follow by the end of June with

1254
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:04,800
those three cities.
>> So EDC has made recommendations that you

1255
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,560
approve the 218 and 318 budgets.
>> We can't do that.

1256
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:09,760
» We can't do that.
>> Whoever the budget is during budget at

1257
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,800
the end of May
>> and she you should have received an

1258
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:17,280
email from Christina saying look at
this. Is this correct? And then if you

1259
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:20,080
want to submit a letter to do that as
well.

1260
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:22,719
» So so we we did that part through
Christina. Okay, then we because we

1261
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:26,000
can't look at this at this point. It has
to go to budget committee.

1262
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:30,639
» Don't look. Don't look.
>> But the three documents that we're

1263
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:35,440
recommending EDC voted I've seen with
this application solicitation and the

1264
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,120
updates through the bylaws just the
areas highlighted in yellow.

1265
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,960
» Yeah.
>> And I have seen the budget.

1266
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,080
» Everybody's seen the budget.
>> I mean it's good to look at it. We can't

1267
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:49,920
I mean we just can't we can't do
anything without

1268
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:53,280
» and that's we can review it say good job
but until I get three more people

1269
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,480
» just out of respect I sent everyone
copies.

1270
01:35:53,760 --> 01:36:00,560
» Thanks.
>> Thank you. Thank you Brian. Thank you

1271
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:04,480
Michelle as you alluded to earlier 27
years ago when I put together the

1272
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:10,080
project that put that welcome to Baker
City finds out there 27 years ago.

1273
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:14,639
» Okay.
>> What a time reference. And they're fine.

1274
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,320
They're not melt. They're not riding in
the ground.

1275
01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:21,199
» No.
>> But originally it was slated at a

1276
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:26,320
$684,000 project, which we ended up
doing for $6,482

1277
01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:31,040
because we got everybody to donate the
thing. OC donated trucks. Um, you know,

1278
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:35,120
» it's a big cut. It's a big
>> Yeah. Ellson donated all the wooden

1279
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:39,440
beams. We had all the steel donated the
high school donate space. Kneehi donated

1280
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:44,639
all of the printout cut signs for it and
everything. It was an amazing community

1281
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:49,679
after and then when press done was with
you know materials at the time they gave

1282
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:51,760
us that cost all of the chains bolts
materials we used to put the signs

1283
01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:54,400
together
>> nice

1284
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:59,920
» different world I'm trying to bring back
the timber so you know

1285
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:02,400
» so yeah if it was you know
>> time reference that's when

1286
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:06,560
» there we go I didn't realize it was that
long ago so um so do we need to approve

1287
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,600
the recommended by law we want to wait
until

1288
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:14,000
» do we want to wait till or
I would I mean I don't think that

1289
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:17,199
there's any rush on it um on on today
for his bylaws. I think just knowing

1290
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:21,040
that they're there
>> forward. Yes,

1291
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:26,800
» I they actually need to be approved
because currently we're publicly going

1292
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:30,880
to have it online for the application
for people to apply for the grant

1293
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,960
because they could apply from
>> April first Friday in April till now.

1294
01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:35,199
Luckily,
>> we do need the grant solicitation

1295
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,040
approved.
>> So, but this is for going forward.

1296
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,800
Well, I mean
>> the thing is we have we're going to need

1297
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:48,400
to have it posted online at the county
site with the correct documents and the

1298
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:53,280
correct wording now which will precede
you know the end of the year. So, so

1299
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:57,600
yeah
we

1300
01:37:54,800 --> 01:38:01,040
remove it from the county and don't have
it publicly posted and notified.

1301
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,280
» Um
>> I would wait I would wait until July

1302
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:09,520
one.
>> Let's wait till July is back in July.

1303
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:12,239
Luckily, nobody has applied. So, we're
going to just have to make sure that

1304
01:38:10,719 --> 01:38:16,080
» just pull it until July.
>> Yeah. So, who would I ask to do that?

1305
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:21,119
» That'd be you, Heidi.
>> Probably Bill Belly.

1306
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:24,560
» Yeah.
>> But let's just I think it just be

1307
01:38:22,639 --> 01:38:29,520
cleaner just because of
>> for the fall solicitation. Yeah. If you

1308
01:38:26,639 --> 01:38:33,040
can if you can just hold and post it on
July. new applications will be available

1309
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:37,440
July 1 or whatever and we'll approve
this maybe the end of June or whatever

1310
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:40,320
when we know what everything looks like
>> yes then there's no confusion there's no

1311
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,760
overlapping
>> I just think it's kind of jumping the

1312
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:46,639
gun I just let's keep it
>> yeah

1313
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:52,159
that's just my thought
>> no I I agree with you I like that I like

1314
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:54,960
to keep everything kind
>> I'm just it's gonna muddy the water

1315
01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:58,719
Brian I
>> if we don't do that so let's and then we

1316
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:02,719
can bring back the changes because we'll
have a better idea that ordinance will

1317
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:08,679
be done. Yes. Hopefully by then. Um then
we can have a better idea of exactly the

1318
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,679
warning you need for the inside.

1319
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:18,239
» So if I bring the ordinance on the 21st,
the revised which I hope to get you both

1320
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:21,600
a copy I don't why not before that for
you to review.

1321
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:25,199
» Um then we have to have two readings
correct Heidi on the ordinance and

1322
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:30,080
change. We have to have two readings
>> unless you want to declare it an

1323
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:32,960
emergency and then you would have to
read the entire thing.

1324
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,880
» Duh.
>> In order to adopt it in

1325
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:40,960
» you get to read it.
>> So if you want to read it read it in its

1326
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,400
entirety you can adopt it at a single
meeting.

1327
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,520
» Oh
>> it is 21st and then

1328
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:48,880
» this thick.
>> So

1329
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:51,119
» um so if we can have the first reading
on the 21st the second reading on the

1330
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:55,040
4th
>> if June.

1331
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:57,600
» Yeah. Um, and then we can get everything
ready and in place the last June 30th.

1332
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,119
» Yeah.
>> And then you can bring your stuff back.

1333
01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:05,440
» It doesn't June 18th.
>> Usually you do a work session if anybody

1334
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:09,199
had any changes, but
>> Well, I'm going to get it to you

1335
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:15,040
beforehand so you can review um on your
own before the 21st. And then at the

1336
01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:18,639
21st, can we decide are we ready to, you
know,

1337
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:22,960
Yeah. I mean, if it if we're scheduled a
public hearing and then we're not ready

1338
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:26,719
for the public hearing. a little bit.
>> So, I would just need to have it because

1339
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,880
I have to meet the posting requirements
and it's got to get in the paper.

1340
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,960
» Yeah.
>> By next week, which means I got to have

1341
01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:36,159
it basically by tomorrow, I think, is
the deadline to get it.

1342
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:40,080
» And I am out next week.
>> Because then I have to post it online.

1343
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,239
Tell people where they can find a
sample.

1344
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:48,239
» Okay. Well, I have a draft right now.
I'm waiting on um uh one other person

1345
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:54,159
who's helping me from TLT who's been on
TLT forever. Um just kind of go through

1346
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:56,960
So, I have all of my ducks in a row on
>> it.

1347
01:40:55,040 --> 01:41:01,760
» Um,
yeah, I suppose. Uh, so no, it's it's

1348
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:06,800
not going to be I didn't figure on
public hearing this month. I figured it

1349
01:41:03,679 --> 01:41:10,400
would be public hearing on unfortunately
on our first session and our second

1350
01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:12,719
session in June.
>> So,

1351
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:18,560
» well, we could still do that and then we
could still do EDC stuff bylaws on the

1352
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:21,920
on um on the 18th.
>> We could still do that. Yeah, because

1353
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:24,880
we'll have had the first hearing and
that'll be the second.

1354
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:28,480
» And if you felt if we felt like we
needed to do a quick work session, that

1355
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:32,159
would give us time enough to do it. And
if you want to do an emergency, you guys

1356
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:37,040
can go to the bathroom while I'm reading
it. I mean, it can be done.

1357
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:41,360
» We're not doing it without you. You love
reading that stuff.

1358
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:45,360
» Oh, well anyway
program recording it time.

1359
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:51,600
» That's how they do it.
>> It It will actually in Word. So

1360
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:54,880
» that's how they do it in uh the
legislature which is incredibly

1361
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:58,800
annoying.
>> Incredibly

1362
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:02,560
» should know say this is going to this is
a five minute reading of this

1363
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:09,600
» because what you guys are going to see
on the 21st or before the 21st is red

1364
01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:14,719
line, blue line and green line because
it's gone through TLT last year with the

1365
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:20,480
red line through council with the blue
line and now I'm adding green line.

1366
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:22,239
Okay. So, it's it's a mess, but it's all
going to come together.

1367
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:25,440
» I was just hoping
>> So, are you going to be able to have

1368
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:28,400
Heidi send it to us electronically so we
can do our own little purple and

1369
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:32,960
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Pick a different color.

1370
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:37,119
» I was just hoping for another PLT
ordinance revision to go in my stack.

1371
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:40,400
» I really don't see this as a problem. I
I went through

1372
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:45,440
» after all of the revisions. I took the
latest revision from 2024 and just

1373
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:51,440
kicked out anything that doesn't apply
that's not going to apply after July 1st

1374
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:54,480
and um and then just revised anything.
Um it's really it really shouldn't be

1375
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:56,080
that much of a
>> It shouldn't.

1376
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,480
» There's not that
>> Could you guys just read the changes?

1377
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:03,280
» Nope.
>> No, read the whole thing. So you after

1378
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:07,360
they look at it, we'll have a better
idea on the 21st and and then if we

1379
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,840
decide that we really need to read it on
the first session in June, then we

1380
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,560
» okay,
>> we definitely

1381
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:17,360
» could just take turns and go roundy
round.

1382
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:23,199
» So for now, you just want it as a review
on the 21st. Yes. And then possibly

1383
01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:26,800
first reading on that June 4th
definitely.

1384
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,719
Yes.
So

1385
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:35,440
» do I need to represent or can you
approve these as presented?

1386
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:40,520
Um you're going to have a change in
you will have a change in uh

1387
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:45,520
» in the bylaws
>> in well in the bylaws once you have the

1388
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:49,760
seven you're going to detail more who
could be um

1389
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:52,560
» so I thought we would not even try to
work with that right now. We're gonna

1390
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,840
wait to see how everything plays out and
then

1391
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,400
» because your count's alone
>> and then next year.

1392
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:58,800
» I was just thinking it would
>> that's the only reason I wasn't going to

1393
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:01,440
approve it now is we're gonna make sure
this was up.

1394
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:07,679
» Oh no. Because this and then what I
really want to do is kind of see what

1395
01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:13,760
you guys came up with and then we can go
back to EC and EDC for so we can make a

1396
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:17,920
recommendation next year to make changes
to our bylaws according to who should be

1397
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:21,520
on it. And I think then you guys will
have more time to figure out what you

1398
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,239
guys did in your ordinance.
>> I wasn't trying to convolute the two at

1399
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:28,800
the same time.
>> I think they have to be.

1400
01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:37,119
» Yeah. I think that if you could come
back in um June with an outline and

1401
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:44,639
and you could even wait and see what
that ordinance first hearing reading

1402
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:47,639
looks like. Um trying to match you.
>> Yeah.

1403
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:51,760
Is this the courthouse? This is the
courthouse.

1404
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:56,280
» This is the courthouse.
>> Oh, yeah. Go for that.

1405
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,080
» Uh,

1406
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:08,000
we're past, but did you get the
information on theformational kiosk for

1407
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:12,480
your
>> from Jessica?

1408
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:16,320
I'm sorry. From Jessica. She was she
sent you some stuff about a kiosk about

1409
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:22,280
placing it somewhere in Huntington.
>> Uh and she has had no communication back

1410
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,280
on it

1411
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:30,520
» and I don't know when she sent the
emails.

1412
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:30,520
» I was gone all last week so

1413
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:36,000
» should have been. Yeah, it's been the
whole process.

1414
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,239
» Maybe you should rephrase it. So would
you love to have a kiosk?

1415
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,480
» Yeah.
>> Where would you like

1416
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:44,080
» would you like to have a kiosk? And
could you please reach out to Jessica to

1417
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:49,360
get the details worked out?
>> How's that?

1418
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:52,320
» It's okay. We're We're
>> Okay. We're in the middle of a

1419
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:53,760
» Yeah. Just touch base with just touch
base with Jessica.

1420
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:56,719
» Okay.
>> Hopson Travel Baker County.

1421
01:45:56,159 --> 01:46:01,520
» Yeah.
>> Out at the She's She's located out at

1422
01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:06,239
the chamber uh or at the visitors
center.

1423
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:10,880
» She's trying to get a kiosk for you out
there and she said there's been no

1424
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:12,480
communication. So,
>> okay.

1425
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,040
» I see it. Thank you.
>> Okay. Well, thank you. It's good to see

1426
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:20,840
you.
>> Good to see you, too.

1427
01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:20,840
» Okay. So, I'll let you know that.

1428
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:32,239
» So, the outside the box thing, I guess,
is the text that I got back from.

1429
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:35,280
And so, basically,
I tried to accelerate it because I

1430
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:40,159
really wanted to get some paperwork in
front of you guys today. Um, so the

1431
01:46:37,679 --> 01:46:44,320
church has approved, you know, rewarding
and everything. They've worked directly

1432
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:48,080
sent it to Drew Martin to review. He's
reviewed it. He's approved everything.

1433
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,280
He's supposed to be sending you guys
directly,

1434
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:53,520
» okay,
>> the copy of the approved, you know,

1435
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,600
document, you know, for the purchase.
And he saw no problems in everything

1436
01:46:55,600 --> 01:47:00,880
that is in it that he is going to be
sending to you guys.

1437
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,400
» And so their attorney then came back,
>> correct?

1438
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:06,880
» Withdrew. Okay.
>> Correct. So, and that's relating to this

1439
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:11,440
email.
>> Yes. Yeah.

1440
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:15,040
» Uh, so Michelle, did you Commissioner
>> Gber, did you receive the email

1441
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,960
» just now?
>> Just now. Okay.

1442
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:22,000
» I don't have my the
>> It's from St. Francis basically. And it

1443
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:25,199
says, um, the requested changes in the
attached document are acceptable and I

1444
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:27,119
recommend that the commissioners approve
the attach.

1445
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:31,199
» Oh, no, I didn't get that. All I got was
>> the attached the the attached to the

1446
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:34,880
agreement. I did not have Commissioner
Caseber's email address, so I just sent

1447
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:39,520
it to Heidi when I got it in and then I
asked Heidi to forward it to you.

1448
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:42,159
» Okay, here we go. I got the whole email
down below.

1449
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:48,719
» So, yeah. So, he requested. So that's
something that um

1450
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:56,159
uh red line is attached and so we'll
have to put that on uh the 21st

1451
01:47:53,280 --> 01:48:00,080
» or is that something that we can
>> Oh, we should be able to

1452
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,880
» that we well or we can't do it now or
can we?

1453
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,960
» Oh no,
>> we can't do it now. That's what I'm

1454
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:10,639
saying.
>> Okay. So we will add that to the 21st

1455
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:15,440
session. Um
>> Yeah. and it sounds like they're fine

1456
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:18,000
with it. So,
>> okay.

1457
01:48:16,159 --> 01:48:21,199
» No, we know we need time to review it
and

1458
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:23,440
» all of that and put it on the
>> Soon as he said to me, I said send it to

1459
01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:25,199
you guys.
>> Yeah.

1460
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:29,600
» Okay. And then we're going to be seeing
something from Drew or is this it?

1461
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:32,000
» Uh I told Drew to send you the final
approval.

1462
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:35,280
» This did not come from Drew. No.
>> Yeah.

1463
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:40,639
» He may have forwarded you what?
>> Drew. It went to

1464
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:45,199
» from Drew went to Shane and Christina.
Oh, okay. So, this is from Drew, not

1465
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:48,320
from St. Francis.
>> Okay. Okay.

1466
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:51,639
» That was this morning at
>> Yeah. Okay.

1467
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:07,280
» Okay. So, yep. We'll just request that
that be on 21st. So, is there any other

1468
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:14,960
recommendations that I present to the
EDC on what you guys would like as far

1469
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:23,280
as wording on who would be on council?
>> Um, I will get you the preliminary

1470
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:30,080
um list of because I just I have my
>> old copy here, not my electronic on the

1471
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:33,360
who's going to be seated on TLT.
>> I will give you that list. Do you think

1472
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:38,320
it should be slightly different or or
near?

1473
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:42,000
» I think that
>> I'm asking all three.

1474
01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:47,840
» I I think I think that you should take
the list that I that we are proposing

1475
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:50,000
for TLT to EDC and see how they feel
about it. I would like to hear from EDC

1476
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:54,080
on
>> So when's the next EDC meeting?

1477
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,400
» 20th.
>> Yeah.

1478
01:49:54,880 --> 01:50:00,920
» Again,
once county college is over, I won't

1479
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:06,520
So Heidi, we requested that um

1480
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:14,000
the St. Francis purchase and sale
agreement

1481
01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:20,119
um that you just sent that email to
Commissioner Caseburg that that be on

1482
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:20,119
our agenda for the 21st

1483
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:29,880
for approval of the purchase and sale
agreement EDC.

1484
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:29,880
And so you'll have to do a staff report.

1485
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:39,800
» All right.
>> Um,

1486
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,800
yeah.

1487
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:49,440
Yeah. I'd be interested to know to hear
what EDC who you would EDC would like to

1488
01:50:46,639 --> 01:50:54,960
what what they see for
seats on the committee.

1489
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:58,239
» Yeah. And so my personal opinion was
that you know we need somebody from

1490
01:50:56,639 --> 01:51:01,440
halfway we need somebody from some
right.

1491
01:50:58,639 --> 01:51:06,719
» Yeah. So, and and unity or I don't know
if you need unity or not, but if you if

1492
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:12,639
you focus on those two cities that are
in the IG then yeah.

1493
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:19,119
» So, and I I do like the wording that
>> you know the the cities must have a

1494
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:24,400
current IG but that's I think you guys
>> and that is in this and the wording is

1495
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:27,840
in this and that I did have to revise
some of that wording per the those three

1496
01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:33,600
cities. So,
>> yeah. So, and then you know it's

1497
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:37,679
you know and the thing I think would be
hard is you know you know getting

1498
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:42,639
somebody to participate on a regular
basis from those areas. So Zoom is you

1499
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:46,320
know approved one for anybody who is on
you can see we voted and approved for

1500
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:50,159
somebody to be able to present via Zoom
or via phone. So that that's an allowed

1501
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:53,280
way for somebody to attend and give
information.

1502
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:58,239
» We have a member on TLT from Sumpter now
and she attends in person. So I mean

1503
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:01,199
they they do
I

1504
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:05,760
can't remember her name right off the
top of my head. No,

1505
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:10,000
» but but she uh yeah, she's she's fairly
new to to TLT. So, I'm looking forward

1506
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:13,679
to her staying on TLT.
>> Good.

1507
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:17,040
» I'd like to follow you guys' direction
and what you guys decide. I'll present

1508
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:19,119
the agency and then have them make a
recommendation back to you guys.

1509
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:24,800
» Okay.
>> Even through the winter doing the Zoom

1510
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:28,800
link for PDC and TLP
can be done. So, It's unaccepted.

1511
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,159
» Oh yeah,
>> we all do it.

1512
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,480
» Yeah, for sure.
>> Allies do it. So

1513
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,159
» yeah,
>> we have to

1514
01:52:34,639 --> 01:52:38,560
have
you do

1515
01:52:37,199 --> 01:52:45,599
» if you choose to
>> and use the cameras that are available.

1516
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:50,480
» The last one I listened to was just like
chairs and people's voices.

1517
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:54,480
» There was another one that we had was
>> Yeah. The EDC made one camera

1518
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:59,040
» and Jeff was the only one showing up.
Yeah, Jeff was the only one at the end

1519
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:04,159
of the whole thing. I was like, "Okay,
there is two cameras.

1520
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:08,880
» You better make sure that animal."
>> Thanks for all of the work and and uh

1521
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:13,360
yeah, I will get you that language just
as a proposed before the 20th

1522
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:17,440
» um so that you can look at it and you
guys can decide.

1523
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:22,320
» Any other questions around here?
>> Thank you. Question on this Francis

1524
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:25,760
agreement. Um, well, will will you be
able to get the seller to sign first?

1525
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:29,280
» We can.
>> Okay. And then it looks like there's an

1526
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:32,960
exhibit A.
>> Yeah, that's never detached. I always

1527
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:37,119
hate that. I mean, attorneys always tell
me that it's, you know, it it's they

1528
01:53:35,599 --> 01:53:40,960
know what it is, but I agree with you.
They kind of need to physically see it.

1529
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:42,480
» Isn't that like the physical address or
or the physical description of the

1530
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,840
property?
>> I'm not sure. I mean they refer to

1531
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:50,480
» that's all I was wondering is I didn't
see there it was there but nothing's

1532
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:55,599
listed under it so I just wasn't sure
that was

1533
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:55,599
» you can request that from Drew before

1534
01:53:55,840 --> 01:54:02,400
» well because this came from Drew and
final paperwork and everything it come

1535
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:05,040
from Drew it's his language of exhibit
>> so

1536
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:08,159
» but I think it's smart with what you
said we'll get to sign it so when you

1537
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:12,080
guys get presented in front of you
you'll have a signed document so it'll

1538
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:16,400
make it easier to follow the next steps
>> yeah It's but yeah where they're the

1539
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:20,560
seller making sure they do want to sell
to us before

1540
01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:25,080
» and that yeah then they're okay with the
wording and all that stuff. So that's

1541
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:25,080
good too. Yeah.

1542
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:30,800
» Thank you.
>> Thank you for all the work and time and

1543
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:34,800
everything on all of this.
>> We'll catch up to you sooner than later.

1544
01:54:32,719 --> 01:54:37,520
» So I I can't wait for that to get mowed
and sprayed so that I don't get any more

1545
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:42,560
phone calls from the neighbor.
>> Yeah. So Gus has done an amazing job and

1546
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:46,080
if anybody wants to know a plan I refer
to her.

1547
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:50,960
» That's where I send it every time.
>> Her suggestions and ideas when she comes

1548
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:53,440
back with another proposal I think is is
awesome.

1549
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:56,960
» Yeah. Next one he's going to go to is
the school district because there's

1550
01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:01,760
actually worse than ours.
>> She was very presentation. I I think

1551
01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:04,320
she's doing a fantastic job.
>> He only catches me when I'm out there.

1552
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:09,360
So
>> coming from uh out of Newbridge

1553
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:16,239
yesterday, there is a property owner
that it is all white top and the the

1554
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:21,280
ditch runs down and through their
property and then it goes up above as

1555
01:55:18,719 --> 01:55:25,040
you're going towards Richland and it's
all white top along that ditch because

1556
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:26,400
it's been carried from that. I mean it
is

1557
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:31,040
» everywhere
>> solid

1558
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:35,040
» by neighbors. Well that property
>> we do in Gessie. Yeah, she does have

1559
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:38,639
that. Um, and
>> I know of another couple counties that

1560
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,599
actually charge property they've
enforced.

1561
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:43,440
» Oh, definitely.
>> And they charge if you have white top

1562
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:48,560
where you have
>> any of the whatever that's on list. If

1563
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:51,440
you have that and you're not taking care
of it and the county has to come in and

1564
01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:54,320
spray it, yep, you will get charged.
>> You get charged. And I think that we

1565
01:55:53,040 --> 01:56:00,159
need to look at that because some of
especially white is just nasty.

1566
01:55:56,400 --> 01:56:02,960
» Also have a within some of the
water.

1567
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:06,400
» Yes. Yes. Because you I mean you
definitely I mean yesterday everything

1568
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:10,159
was in bloom and man that white top was
in bloom and Russ just was looking up

1569
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:13,360
there and the following that ditch line
and

1570
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:18,080
» yeah it's no good. You know, Sweden when
we visited, I don't know how long ago,

1571
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:22,080
but uh they have an ordinance that if
you have trash in your yards or if you

1572
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:25,520
have something that's unsightly or
something that you know, they have this

1573
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:29,920
whole ordinance if you don't if you
don't take care of it when you're when

1574
01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:32,880
you're notified, then that county or
city or whatever goes in, cleans it up,

1575
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:38,719
and then you're build.
>> There is an ordinance of the city to do

1576
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:42,719
that. And um they I've seen them do it a
couple of times and people screamed.

1577
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:45,679
» Well, they clean it up. Sweden was so
clean. I mean, we were just like, "What

1578
01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:48,560
is going on? Everybody takes care of
everything. Every yard is pristine and

1579
01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:52,000
everything." They said, "Oh, it's this
ordinance. You either do it or you pay

1580
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:58,159
» every
>> Oh, yes. That's exactly exactly.

1581
01:56:56,719 --> 01:57:01,840
» It's just that here.
>> I'm going to call a five minute break

1582
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:08,000
and before we go on to the Okay.
>> thingamajig and I'll be right back. It's

1583
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:13,040
just that here um private property
rights

1584
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:17,440
stop us and I appreciate that
>> but then it makes it tough.

1585
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:24,080
» I was glad the way Jason wrote that
article you did a great job.

1586
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:24,080
» Yeah. But I and so as I'm

1587
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:14,080
Um,
thank you for doing that.

1588
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:18,040
» Out of recess. Oh, you're welcome. Well,
you don't have to thank me.

1589
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:26,560
» Oh, I thought you meant to call recess.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1590
02:04:23,679 --> 02:04:29,679
» Oh, Heidi sent it. Okay.
>> All right.

1591
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:34,000
» Oh, what was Oh, the travel policy
review.

1592
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:39,119
» Okay. So, I had an email from one of the
department heads and so I started

1593
02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:41,840
researching it and so in there, so
really what I wanted to address today

1594
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:46,639
was
>> anytime we have the three of us need to

1595
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,639
get reimbursed, we have to get the other
two done.

1596
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:52,000
» Oh, yeah.
>> But we haven't been doing that. So,

1597
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:54,080
we're outside of our guidelines. So,
>> I marked that, too.

1598
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:57,440
» So, why
>> we have to what? What?

1599
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:59,440
» So, if you submit a expense
reimbursement, Shane and I both have a

1600
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:04,639
sign.
>> Yeah. Oh, both. Not both. Okay. So,

1601
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:08,400
we're not following that. And so,
anyway, there's several places in here

1602
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:11,040
that I don't I think it just say
signature of one commissioner for

1603
02:05:09,599 --> 02:05:14,800
reimbursement to department heads or
elected officials and drop out the part

1604
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:17,920
that says signature of two commissioners
for reimbursement to a commissioner.

1605
02:05:16,239 --> 02:05:19,360
» That's a pain. Why? And we're not doing
it. So,

1606
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:22,560
» we're not doing it anyway.
>> If it comes back to audit, we're not

1607
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:27,920
doing it. We're going to get in trouble.
>> So, do you have a red line?

1608
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:33,679
» I do. I just highlighted the yellow.
Oh, I just It's um page two.

1609
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:36,320
» But I don't But mine isn't.
>> No, I just highlighted it in yellow.

1610
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:39,199
» Oh,
>> do we need to do that? Just Okay. And

1611
02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:40,960
then present it back.
>> Yes.

1612
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:44,239
» Okay, I can do that.
>> Yeah. And then I can look because I I

1613
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:47,440
like I read through this.
>> We don't have like a document of this

1614
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:50,960
one, right?
>> How did you get that?

1615
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:54,719
» You just by page. Yeah.
>> I thought we were talking about the the

1616
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:58,159
food reimbursement.
>> Well, we can do that, too. But

1617
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:59,840
» and then I read through that. like
they're not.

1618
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:03,119
» So, we can. So, I did some research on
that. So, if you guys are in agreement

1619
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:05,280
with that one, I will change that.
>> Yeah. If I can see your changes and then

1620
02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:08,320
we can
>> It's just basically eliminating a line.

1621
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:12,159
» There's five of them.
>> Okay. I thought you had Oh, there's five

1622
02:06:10,239 --> 02:06:15,199
different places. It's not just the one
then, Shane. There's five different

1623
02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:18,239
places.
Three,

1624
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,880
» four, five.
>> Yeah. So, I I I would just like to see

1625
02:06:20,159 --> 02:06:25,280
that. Thank you.
>> Because it's just Yeah. Anyway. Okay.

1626
02:06:23,599 --> 02:06:31,520
So, I did look, just to let you guys
know, I did look at the predium and the

1627
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:35,119
high cost city allowances for meals.
>> I would recommend that we have an

1628
02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:41,199
updated
city list that comes from IRS. That's

1629
02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:45,599
what we should do and that should be on
file and we it should just be updated

1630
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:49,280
whenever by and so I can include that
the travel policy that this will be

1631
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:54,400
updated as needed by administrative
services. Is that the best way to put

1632
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:56,960
that? and then they just go pull this
and they need it.

1633
02:06:56,079 --> 02:07:02,239
» Okay.
>> So then I did some cost comparisons of

1634
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:07,679
where we're at.
So right now we're at $51 a day and if

1635
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:13,119
we're in a high cost city, which is $66
a day. What's interesting is there's

1636
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:18,239
like three high cost cities in Oregon.
Portland is not one of them.

1637
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:20,239
» Yeah. I saw Bend, Eugene, Florence, and
Seaside.

1638
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:27,520
» Bend is just new.
>> Florence is new. Yeah, those two were

1639
02:07:22,079 --> 02:07:31,119
new. It was Tbook Lincoln City and
whatever. Anyway, so that's what

1640
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:36,880
competition
city.

1641
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:42,639
» So anyway, so I went to the IRS and they
were at 74 for non- high and 86 for full

1642
02:07:40,079 --> 02:07:46,719
day rate, which is basically $25. So
then I went to the GSA which is the

1643
02:07:44,719 --> 02:07:51,520
general services administration which is
lower than the IRS which is kind of and

1644
02:07:49,119 --> 02:07:56,159
it and it details Dutes and Multma
counties and Boyisey

1645
02:07:54,320 --> 02:08:01,840
» as high cost around here at the point we
might fly. So the 63 and 81 but again

1646
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,760
we're not that far off and I don't know
that we need to change it.

1647
02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:08,400
» Okay.
>> I I don't know because most of the time

1648
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:13,199
people are traveling for a conference
and wheels are in group.

1649
02:08:10,159 --> 02:08:18,880
» Yeah. I like, okay, just example on this
last one. Um,

1650
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:24,719
when I got there on Wednesday,
I had to get my own dinner

1651
02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:29,320
and that and then on the way home, I got
my own lunch.

1652
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,320
» They

1653
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:38,480
stay in a hotel that has breakfast.
>> Yes. And so anyway, so um so I mean we

1654
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:46,000
were less than it was like $12 from the
GSA and $15 on the high cost cities and

1655
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:50,079
so I don't know. I just with our budget
and things like that and we don't have a

1656
02:08:47,679 --> 02:08:54,880
lot of people traveling.
I just kind of want to make the change

1657
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:57,280
to remove this and add a note that we
would just use the standard IRS license.

1658
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:59,040
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1659
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:01,760
» I agree with that.
>> Yeah. And I think I'm gonna have to

1660
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:04,800
retype this because we can't find a word
out here.

1661
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:08,320
Everything's a file, right?
>> You don't need to retype it. We can

1662
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,320
we'll figure that out. So, you just let
me know what your changes are and I'll

1663
02:09:09,679 --> 02:09:11,520
get it.
>> Okay.

1664
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:15,440
» All right.
>> Oh, yeah. Just leave it in my Dropbox.

1665
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:19,520
It's not
>> How did we get these? Oh,

1666
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:22,639
» I had to individually print each. You
had to go and I go to print the whole

1667
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:27,079
thing and I would get an error. So, I
went page one, page two,

1668
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:32,639
» I would work on that.
>> Okay. Oh, thank you. So, that's I don't

1669
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:35,199
know that we need to make a change in
government.

1670
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:38,639
» Yeah,
>> I've been surviving in it. Okay. So,

1671
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:41,280
» but I just I do think we need to change
the two commissioners.

1672
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:43,599
» I do too.
You got to be following.

1673
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:49,280
» Yeah. I'd like to see your five changes
or whatever on on that one. So, yes. Um

1674
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:53,199
I I like the the
>> your trajectory.

1675
02:09:51,599 --> 02:09:55,840
» Well, he doesn't have Okay.
>> Well, yeah.

1676
02:09:54,560 --> 02:10:00,280
» Do you have a copy of it?
>> Oh, I have lots of copies highlighted.

1677
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:05,480
Okay. Because I don't think he has the
copy either with

1678
02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:12,480
» Yes.
>> No, but I'm I mean I just read through

1679
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:15,440
it and I caught the same thing. I'll I'm
happy to see it.

1680
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:18,320
» Anyway, that's all it is. Eliminate
that. So, I'll take care.

1681
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:22,159
» Oh, just in those four spaces.
>> Yep. Just draw it.

1682
02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:25,040
» Well, then I'm fine with that. I thought
you meant that there was four different

1683
02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:27,920
places that you want to change a
oneliner. I didn't know.

1684
02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:30,400
» It's just eliminating
>> the two the word. Okay.

1685
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:34,239
» Yeah, just where it says
>> I am fine with that if you want if you

1686
02:10:32,159 --> 02:10:37,440
want to vote on that right now or
whatever.

1687
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:43,079
» And then let me see what it says for
high cost.

1688
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,079
» Hold on.

1689
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:48,639
» No, because I No, I'm going to change
that because I want it to refer back to

1690
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:53,040
the current IRS. I want
>> You want to do it? You want to vote on

1691
02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:56,040
it? So 21st 21st word of the child
policy.

1692
02:10:57,599 --> 02:11:04,079
» There's not even a second line for one
of us to sign.

1693
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:08,159
» I and I read that and I signed off on
it.

1694
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:12,880
» I was I was looking for something
completely different on the intra web or

1695
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:18,639
whatever we call it and the travel
policy popped up and I read that and I

1696
02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:23,280
thought, well dang, that's that's not
good.

1697
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:27,840
All right, I guess we're on to documents
to be signed. Uh, American Forest

1698
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:30,880
Resource Council membership dues. That's
you.

1699
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:34,480
» How much is that?
>> That's 600. So, difference between a

1700
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:40,079
full membership and associate
membership. What is the difference?

1701
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:43,119
» Let me see. I mean, do we get anything
more if we do we get more benefits? I

1702
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:49,280
mean, because I was looking at the
benefits. I I asked that question the

1703
02:11:46,079 --> 02:11:55,440
gal and she said that um one is more for
like actual loggers and forestry workers

1704
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:58,400
» the patterns counties
>> okay

1705
02:11:56,560 --> 02:12:01,920
» so we're still covered under what they
talk about

1706
02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:04,920
» but we don't have voting rights
>> right

1707
02:12:05,119 --> 02:12:11,119
» right
>> um I'll move that we pay the dues for

1708
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:15,440
American Forest Resources Council
membership for $600 for an associate

1709
02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:15,440
membership

1710
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:20,400
I'll second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any further

1711
02:12:18,719 --> 02:12:22,639
discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor say I.

1712
02:12:22,239 --> 02:12:26,360
» I.
>> I. Motion carries.

1713
02:12:26,719 --> 02:12:38,040
I can make this through without my
glasses. Um, order number 2025-122

1714
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:38,040
designating county dimminimous rate.

1715
02:12:38,239 --> 02:12:45,880
Where is What are we at?
>> Order 10. And now we're at 15. Yeah,

1716
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:45,880
let's move it to 15.

1717
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:49,159
» Okay,

1718
02:12:53,840 --> 02:13:01,280
» I'll move to approve order number 25-122
the dimminimous administrative

1719
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:04,560
deminimous rate moving it from 10% to
15%.

1720
02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:08,400
» I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any

1721
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:14,840
further discussion?
>> Saying none. All in favor say I.

1722
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:14,840
» I. Hi. Motion carries.

1723
02:13:21,679 --> 02:13:30,239
» Reappoint. Okay. Order number 2025123.
Reappointing members to the Baker County

1724
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:33,760
Fairboard.
>> Oh, she just put it on staff report.

1725
02:13:32,159 --> 02:13:43,880
Okay. Um
>> I Yeah. Um, if you're ready, I'll um

1726
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:43,880
I'll make a motion to reappoint

1727
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:53,760
» Dan uh Dean DeFreeze and Chris Stocks to
the Baker County Fair Board for a term

1728
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:58,159
set to expire May 1st, 2028. Order
number 25 2025-123.

1729
02:13:56,639 --> 02:14:03,679
» Sorry, I'll second that.
>> Sorry, I did it backwards, so I I

1730
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:06,079
apologize. I have a motion and a weird
backwards thing.

1731
02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:11,760
Second.
>> Sorry.

1732
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:13,920
» Uh, any further discussion?
>> Say none. All in favor say I.

1733
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:19,119
» I.
>> I. Motion carries.

1734
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:23,520
» Okay, let me try again.
>> All right, I'll give you another chance.

1735
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:27,599
I will make a motion to
approve order number 2025-124

1736
02:14:26,239 --> 02:14:32,320
reappointing Barry Nimick to the
transportation advisory committee for a

1737
02:14:29,119 --> 02:14:35,679
term set to expire May 1st, 2028.
>> I'll second it.

1738
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:39,920
» A motion and a second. Any further
discussion?

1739
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:42,400
Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.

1740
02:14:40,239 --> 02:14:47,199
» I. Motion carries.
>> Okay. I will make a motion to approve

1741
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:52,239
order number 2025-125
reappointing Doug Gaslin to the Economic

1742
02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:57,679
Development Council for a term set to
expire May 1st, 2028.

1743
02:14:54,960 --> 02:15:04,239
» Second it.
>> Do we need to make a change to that?

1744
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,320
» Uh, no. He um not I don't I don't think
so.

1745
02:15:04,719 --> 02:15:08,480
» Okay. Oh, he's good.
>> Yeah,

1746
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:13,520
» it should be Yeah, because there's so
many vacancies right now.

1747
02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:18,960
Yep. Yeah. Okay. I just want to make
sure that Yeah. Okay. I'll second it.

1748
02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:22,320
» A motion and a second. All No. Any
further discussion? Seeing none. All in

1749
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:24,400
favor say I.
>> I.

1750
02:15:22,639 --> 02:15:29,599
» I. Motion carries.
>> And last, I will make a motion to

1751
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:34,000
approve order number 2025-126
reappointing Wade Simpson to the Baker

1752
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:38,239
County Weed District Board for a term to
expire April 1, 2028.

1753
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:43,280
» I'll second it.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any

1754
02:15:40,079 --> 02:15:46,000
further discussion?
Seeing none. All in favor say I.

1755
02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:53,599
» I.
>> I. Motion carries.

1756
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:56,599
All right. Ratification of documents.
Um

1757
02:15:57,040 --> 02:16:01,920
I can there's one that I have a conflict
of interest with and Christine is going

1758
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:08,320
to take care of that one.
>> Okay. But I'll move to approve accounts

1759
02:16:04,079 --> 02:16:15,280
payable reports C21, C-22, M31 and
payroll and payroll AP reports APC 24,

1760
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:22,320
PRC79, PRC78,
APC 23, PRC77, APC19,

1761
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:27,040
APC 18, PRC76,
APC 20,

1762
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:31,199
and the March review
March revenue and expenditure report.

1763
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:36,639
» I'll second. I have a motion and a
second. Any further discussion?

1764
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:39,519
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
>> I. Motion carries. And then you need to

1765
02:16:38,880 --> 02:16:44,719
take
>> Yep. I will make a motion to ratify the

1766
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:47,719
signature on accounts payable report
C16.

1767
02:16:48,719 --> 02:16:55,120
» Oh, I have to second. Yeah, that's it.
Uh, I'll second.

1768
02:16:53,439 --> 02:16:59,920
I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion on that?

1769
02:16:57,599 --> 02:17:02,000
» Seeing none, all in favor say I. I.
>> I.

1770
02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:08,519
carries.
>> Oh, you have two and one abstension. Two

1771
02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:08,519
eyes and one abstension.

1772
02:17:09,599 --> 02:17:18,160
» Okay, let's see.
So,

1773
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:23,120
what do So,
the Republican caucus came out with a

1774
02:17:21,359 --> 02:17:27,559
proposal
to cancel

1775
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:34,319
or eliminate cut
statewide the stiff fund the statewide

1776
02:17:32,639 --> 02:17:39,280
transportation improvement fund for 36
million statewide. Um

1777
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:43,120
I tal you guys weren't on the call
yesterday morning but I talked to um

1778
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:45,679
Representative Owens about this because
he was one of the

1779
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:49,599
» forgetting
every other it

1780
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:52,639
» yeah. So anyway I just put it on my
calendar. So anyway, so

1781
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:59,760
» I had it on mine, too.
>> His comment was, I'll just make this um

1782
02:17:57,439 --> 02:18:04,399
that this was a good faith effort to the
Democrats that they can come out of it,

1783
02:18:02,319 --> 02:18:09,679
not raise taxes, they
>> and I said, do you understand how this

1784
02:18:06,800 --> 02:18:15,040
affects rural Eastern Oregon when you
have when it's, you know, you have no

1785
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:19,200
rail, you have no Greyhound, you have
nothing out here for transportation for

1786
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:23,040
the lower income frontier communities. I
mean, I just I hit every point. Connie

1787
02:18:21,599 --> 02:18:24,319
did a great job of
>> helping me.

1788
02:18:23,679 --> 02:18:27,519
» Oh, good.
>> Because I I called I was going to I

1789
02:18:26,319 --> 02:18:31,920
fired off, you know, I was getting ready
to do my letter to um Representative

1790
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:34,240
Owens and Senator Nash and Flatty. I
mean, everybody that I met, I was going

1791
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:38,080
to do this and I went,
>> "Calm down, Michelle. Callie first." So,

1792
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:41,200
I called Connie and she helped me with
the wording. And I'm still going to send

1793
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:44,399
an email and if you guys would like, um
I can draft the draft the letter and

1794
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:52,000
have you guys sign it if you want to do
that. Okay. Um because um Chris Patnau,

1795
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:56,800
Judge Patnau also
spoke in favor saying, "Hey guys, come

1796
02:18:53,840 --> 02:19:01,040
on. You you are affecting all of us."
And um so anyway, so what my my letter

1797
02:18:59,359 --> 02:19:05,519
to them is going to ask, how is it
affecting each of the counties in your

1798
02:19:03,359 --> 02:19:08,559
district and how much is it cutting and
what all is it cutting? Yeah. And who

1799
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:13,120
are you targeting?
>> You're targeting lowincome families,

1800
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:16,880
veterans, low income, you know, things
like that. I was just hot when I read

1801
02:19:14,880 --> 02:19:20,880
that. And um so anyway,
>> disabled

1802
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:23,439
» disabled. Yeah. So and so anyway, so I
have a rough draft of the letter. Um I'm

1803
02:19:22,399 --> 02:19:26,479
going to change the wording just a
little bit and I'll get that to you guys

1804
02:19:25,679 --> 02:19:28,880
as well.
>> Yes, please. And then

1805
02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:33,760
» I don't know. I'm going to send it to
Representative Owens, but I don't know

1806
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:36,800
because uh Representative Den is the one
that kind of that Republican caucus that

1807
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:42,719
she's
>> she's the one that did that. Um, but I

1808
02:19:39,439 --> 02:19:44,399
kind of want our guys to know that we
are really against this.

1809
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:49,439
» Yes.
>> And and I know that they canceled EOCA

1810
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:52,399
for this week. Next week. Oh, they
cancelled EOCA for next week.

1811
02:19:50,960 --> 02:19:55,280
» I couldn't get it in the last one. So, I
wasn't sure when they were.

1812
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:58,080
» Yeah. Paul Paul said there was wasn't
going to be one. So, anyway, so I'm

1813
02:19:56,479 --> 02:20:02,319
going to try and see if I'll copy the
letter and then send it to Paul and John

1814
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,160
and all those other guys. So, try as
many as we can on it.

1815
02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:10,479
» And once we see it, if you if you have
Heidi send us your

1816
02:20:08,319 --> 02:20:16,399
your coffee then. Yeah, all we have to
do is is just say add my signature

1817
02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:20,880
yourself. So anyway, but yeah, so that's
where I did a whole bunch of research

1818
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:25,120
going in. There's something that says
because the employee based some of this

1819
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:29,920
money, a lot of this money is by self
employee tax and the employee tax said

1820
02:20:27,439 --> 02:20:32,399
it has to go to
transportation. Yeah.

1821
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:36,160
» So they're trying to take it just put it
at ODOT. Just generally put into ODOT

1822
02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:38,800
and so Connie says I don't think they
can do that. So, we need to figure out

1823
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:40,560
exactly which fund they're targeting
because there's three funds.

1824
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:43,840
» Uhu.
>> Um, and we have like when I look at our

1825
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:48,160
budget, there's three different line
items, but the payroll tax is the

1826
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:50,560
biggest one. It's like 200 some thousand
dollars that's coming in.

1827
02:20:49,439 --> 02:20:53,359
» So, we need to figure out where that's
all coming in.

1828
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:55,359
» And so, um,
>> thank you.

1829
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:59,920
» She didn't, you know, it's just one of
those things.

1830
02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:03,840
» And honestly, if I had not been doing
this job,

1831
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:07,760
» I would not have paid any attention to
this at all. And that's what I told

1832
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:12,160
Connie. I says I and I actually told
that too. I says that is something that

1833
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:14,720
is outside of the legislative process.
It doesn't have a house bill. It doesn't

1834
02:21:13,439 --> 02:21:19,520
have a Senate bill.
>> I I just I moved.

1835
02:21:16,399 --> 02:21:23,680
» Yeah. And and you literally have to
catch it.

1836
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:29,280
» I mean, you literally just somehow you
have to catch it. O N R I and I'm not

1837
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:32,399
exactly sure it's a natural resource is
where this came from

1838
02:21:30,479 --> 02:21:37,120
» originally and I went
>> so I just that anyway that's going with

1839
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:40,560
that. So I will take care of that.
>> Um so I would get a letter.

1840
02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:44,560
» The other thing is
>> yeah they've got whatever 38 million for

1841
02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:48,880
passenger rail which is probably not
enough but then there's a bill and I

1842
02:21:46,479 --> 02:21:52,319
don't know where it's at to pull
passenger rail completely away from ODOT

1843
02:21:50,960 --> 02:21:55,840
and create its own
>> Yeah. So, so like he his comment was

1844
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:59,439
that this was their good faith effort
that he's probably not going to fly, but

1845
02:21:57,359 --> 02:22:04,960
I don't care. I mean, look at okay, look
at the um bill that we thought had gone

1846
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:08,720
away for TLT. It's back. And so that's
where I was um you know, the reallocate

1847
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:12,160
vacancies. That just means that they're
they haven't filled the job. There's a

1848
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:16,479
bill
that we're working on in the public

1849
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:22,000
safety committee and it's not bad and we
have people working on it, but it

1850
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:27,600
started out as one of the
do a study and yeah figure out whatever

1851
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:33,680
it was for and that's it was a one pager
and then they've tagged on to this one

1852
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:39,200
pager to completely overhaul the CJC and
change the granting

1853
02:22:35,439 --> 02:22:42,560
» which may not be a bad thing but if you
weren't on committee or

1854
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:47,520
» right you wouldn't have known it. So one
of the is the um the bicycle and

1855
02:22:44,399 --> 02:22:52,640
pedestrian program. So um we get so some
of the money that the road gets goes

1856
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:58,319
into this bicycle like $30,000 every
year. So that's some of that would come

1857
02:22:55,760 --> 02:23:01,920
back to us. Then there was one where the
litter graffiti abandoned clean up. I'm

1858
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:04,160
like really seriously
>> really how about in Baker County along

1859
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:09,359
Oda?
>> Yeah. Uhhuh. Along the freeway down I5

1860
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:14,560
and what a mess it is. Is it?
>> Oh, it is. It's terrible. Um,

1861
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:20,720
yeah. I mean, some of these probably is
fine, but um, you know, but some of

1862
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:24,399
these I'm just going No.
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

1863
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:28,479
» Okay. So, the next one's mine, too, I
think. Um,

1864
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:31,920
so
Dam.

1865
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:37,600
» Okay, here we go.
>> So, I have a hand out for both. Sorry.

1866
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:43,200
» Um, thank you.
So what I did

1867
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:46,720
I just going through the budget process
there was a line item for Mason Dam

1868
02:23:45,359 --> 02:23:50,960
project
>> for the power thing.

1869
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:53,600
» Yeah. For like 210,000. So I reached it.
So when trying to figure out what was

1870
02:23:52,240 --> 02:23:56,000
going on with that because it hasn't
changed at all.

1871
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:59,120
» It hasn't changed at all. And that was
one from before I think even you guys

1872
02:23:58,160 --> 02:24:03,280
went.
>> Yeah. Nothing has.

1873
02:24:00,880 --> 02:24:09,040
» Yeah. Anyway, so I reached out to uh
Jason and he gave me things and he was

1874
02:24:06,880 --> 02:24:14,880
basically told to quit working on it. Um
I think our permits have expired,

1875
02:24:10,960 --> 02:24:20,800
anything like that. So um anyway, so if
we are not in our lifetime going to see

1876
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:23,840
that and promote it and all that stuff,
do we need that 210 sitting there? Can

1877
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:26,080
we move it back?
>> Yeah, that would be nice. So do we need

1878
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:27,680
a
>> So I think we just do that during

1879
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:30,000
budget.
>> Do it through budget.

1880
02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:34,560
» Okay, I'll do it in my in the budget
message. we'll do budget and so but I

1881
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:37,920
wanted you guys to see because he I also
included the minutes the last two years

1882
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,920
so
>> um

1883
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:43,760
» so you guys can
>> I don't think this is I've got the file

1884
02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:46,479
in there if you guys
>> it's a nice idea

1885
02:24:44,479 --> 02:24:50,880
» I think there's one there's a one
upstairs but

1886
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:53,760
» 200,000 isn't even going to be a match
>> $200,000 wasn't going to do the

1887
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:58,080
engineering
>> no on and and nobody's working on it so

1888
02:24:56,560 --> 02:25:02,720
I mean we're not ever really going to do
it within the next 10 or 20 So you put

1889
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:06,880
the thing in, how much power is it going
to generate and is it worth doing that?

1890
02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:10,000
And then how's it going to affect
habitat downream?

1891
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:13,120
» How much water can actually go through
there at a time when we use it for

1892
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:16,640
irrigation anyway?
>> Yeah.

1893
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:20,720
» So because I mean how often does it go
to nothing?

1894
02:25:18,399 --> 02:25:24,160
» Never. I never see I never see that kind
of river not moving.

1895
02:25:22,479 --> 02:25:29,680
» But I mean it but
>> but not enough to generate power,

1896
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:31,120
» right? So that would be July, August,
September,

1897
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,960
» and then you got to worry about the
water temperature.

1898
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:36,720
» Yep.
>> So anyway, so okay, I will work with

1899
02:25:34,960 --> 02:25:38,640
Christina. We will talk about that for
your budget.

1900
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:41,680
» This is something I've been trying to
pawn off to OTAC every once in a while

1901
02:25:40,720 --> 02:25:45,600
when they're not looking.
>> They don't want it.

1902
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:49,200
» Well, I'm younger. Eventually, I'll find
somebody that

1903
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:53,840
» one other note on our budget that she
sent out to everybody budgets. You

1904
02:25:51,520 --> 02:25:56,960
notice that the 600 um we took out the
vehicle expense because we put it in

1905
02:25:55,840 --> 02:26:00,319
budget.
>> It's in facilities budget because that's

1906
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:05,439
where all of our expenses go.
>> No, that okay. It was in there because

1907
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:08,479
it needs It needs work
and it needs it needs

1908
02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:10,800
» it comes out of Dan's budget. That's
what Christina says. It comes out of

1909
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:14,080
Dan's budget.
>> So you just put the thing over for Dan

1910
02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:17,040
to deal with.
>> That's what she said.

1911
02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:21,240
» Okay. Because Dan
to do with it with that vehicle.

1912
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:26,479
Well, $600 isn't going to cover the
train.

1913
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:32,240
» It's not. And it needs to be get in
there and looked at. And um

1914
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:40,479
the work that was that needs to be done
was quoted by um lube oil lube thing

1915
02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:44,800
depot and it was close to 500. So I said
600 for the um because it's going to be

1916
02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:47,760
the road department that actually does
that work.

1917
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:51,280
» It's interesting because you said
>> it's not new It's several things

1918
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:56,160
that they found in there and I didn't
trust them. Um,

1919
02:26:53,760 --> 02:27:00,640
I'm sorry, but you know, I mean, I tell
my mother the same thing. You never

1920
02:26:58,399 --> 02:27:03,439
you're never okay at the first time.
>> Um, you always get a second opinion and

1921
02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:06,560
deal with it
>> because she was saying that all the all

1922
02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:09,600
of our vehicles,
>> all the maintenance and everything like

1923
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:14,720
that comes out of Dan's budget.
>> I don't see any I I took it to Lubo and

1924
02:27:12,479 --> 02:27:19,520
filter last year to get that done to get
it exchanged. I have never there's there

1925
02:27:17,439 --> 02:27:22,880
hasn't been anything that they've I
check the oil when I take it on my own.

1926
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:26,080
I
>> if we're just talking about the

1927
02:27:24,319 --> 02:27:31,760
commission mobile why don't we just put
it in the commission budget.

1928
02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:34,240
» So I and just clarify I asked the
difference because I said so the

1929
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:37,760
assessors they all have their individual
cars and so they because they are

1930
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:41,359
individually responsible for that car
they have to gas it up they or they have

1931
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:45,920
to change the oil they have to rotate
the tires to do all that. Dan does it.

1932
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:48,319
» No, he doesn't. I have been doing it
>> on the Equinox, too.

1933
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:50,640
» No, just
>> just the Cherokee is why that was in

1934
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:55,760
there.
>> Put the G and the money for it in the

1935
02:27:53,760 --> 02:28:00,640
commissioner budget and put the book in
our office and call it good.

1936
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:04,560
» No, the book is fine where it's at.
>> Um, you can still reserve it.

1937
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:09,120
» Yeah, anybody other people have used it.
Um, other other departments have used

1938
02:28:06,399 --> 02:28:12,000
it, but nobody else maintains it. I,
like I say, I am the one that's been

1939
02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:15,600
doing the maintaining. But if we're
going to just say it's our cuz you never

1940
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:20,080
take it out of account.
>> It is. And the I I think planning used

1941
02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:26,479
it one time to go up to the OTC summit
up in Anthony Lakes um in 23. I think

1942
02:28:23,439 --> 02:28:29,760
they used it. Uh but the log really is
just us. I mean if anybody else needed

1943
02:28:28,640 --> 02:28:33,520
to use it, we wouldn't say no.
>> Well, right. But that's what you could

1944
02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:37,680
just get back.
>> It's just specific on that one. It's

1945
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:41,840
just just cher just a cher.
>> Right. You could put the Cherokee.

1946
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:45,600
» The equinox is in the pool. Yeah, you
could put the Cherokee in our

1947
02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:47,840
» budget and just run it that way.
>> Well, it is.

1948
02:28:46,319 --> 02:28:51,680
» No, I mean it's just separate.
>> So then, so that travel and training

1949
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:55,040
expenses then when we
>> So then vehicle expense that should be

1950
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:58,160
because we're not charging anything to
it.

1951
02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:00,720
» So where is it when you get the oil
change and all that stuff? Where's that

1952
02:28:59,359 --> 02:29:04,720
going?
>> Um that came out of it was the

1953
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:08,319
commissioner card for the oil change
last year. It was Yep. I I had the

1954
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:14,800
commissioner card and I went and did the
the oil change on that. Um, and it was

1955
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:18,000
also Did we get a charge from Commercial
Tire when Oh, no. That was the Equinox

1956
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:19,760
that you and I were in when we had the
flat.

1957
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:23,920
» You shouldn't have got the bill,
>> but no, we didn't. We didn't on that.

1958
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:29,359
But yeah, I did pay with the with just
the card. Now, that's an interesting

1959
02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:34,399
question because blacks and uh Pacific
Pride cards are in there and I they they

1960
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:40,399
go to wherever. I don't know where that
it does say commissioner on the I mean,

1961
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:43,040
it's specific to that vehicle. Um, but
it that so then

1962
02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:45,439
» this is a great conversation because we
don't know.

1963
02:29:43,439 --> 02:29:46,720
» So then the fuel doesn't come out of of
that.

1964
02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:49,120
» No,
>> it comes out of the pool.

1965
02:29:48,560 --> 02:29:54,080
» Yeah.
>> So, okay. However it works. Um,

1966
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:57,760
» okay. We'll just figure it out. I'll
tell her. It's either got it

1967
02:29:56,399 --> 02:29:59,680
» either or
>> either or.

1968
02:29:58,240 --> 02:30:03,600
» I'll have more for you.
>> Because then then, you know, if we had

1969
02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:06,880
to include the fuel on that, then we'd
have to look at last year's fuel

1970
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:10,399
consumption to in order to even know
what that I'm saying is. And that's I

1971
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:17,680
think maybe why Christina thought maybe
it seemed to

1972
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:23,520
» it certainly can. Yeah. I I mean if
>> we can expand it okay

1973
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:26,240
» I kind of worry about other departments
driving it.

1974
02:30:25,439 --> 02:30:31,760
» So
>> yeah the Cherokee is not the Cherokee is

1975
02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:36,160
not in the pool. No. And that's that's
the thing is it's not in the pool.

1976
02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:39,439
» We wouldn't deny anybody using it but it
is Cherokee. is Commissioner Ray.

1977
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:44,880
» All right. So, we'll have to Okay, we'll
get that fig.

1978
02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:49,040
» I appropriated it and so
>> Okay. All right. Good. Well, we need to

1979
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:52,080
make sure. So, if if the fuel is
supposed to be charged to that, then

1980
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:55,200
I'll go with Christina and Shaylin to
make sure that

1981
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:59,280
» Yeah. Well, it it is charged to that,
but it's it's probably charged through

1982
02:30:57,040 --> 02:31:02,720
the it's not charged to our
commissioner. It's it's probably charged

1983
02:31:00,880 --> 02:31:07,120
in the pool.
>> That card is specific to that vehicle,

1984
02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:11,120
so they would know. Okay.
>> So, you could move it over. We'd have to

1985
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:14,080
bump up our travel expense a little
smudging, but

1986
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:15,280
» we'll see about that.
>> Yeah.

1987
02:31:14,479 --> 02:31:18,800
» Okay.
>> All right.

1988
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:22,720
» Well, increase your vehicle expense
because your cash

1989
02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:25,439
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. If it's stay with us, then

1990
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:27,920
we'd have to figure in all of that
stuff.

1991
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:30,560
» It's going to be worth $600.
>> Yeah. Everything

1992
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:35,760
» knowing that we're going to have at
least 500 or so

1993
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:38,960
» in $600 fuel up anymore.
Okay, I'll work with Christina on that.

1994
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:44,080
So, you may see a change. We were in
balance until today.

1995
02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:48,399
» I may have to change some stuff on the
juvenile, too. So,

1996
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:52,479
» um, is that
>> is that it for your update or do you

1997
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:57,280
have more? I I
>> got Sorry. Um, uh, community

1998
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:58,960
connections. Last week I was nominated
as voice chair.

1999
02:31:58,399 --> 02:32:02,640
» Oh, nice.
>> Oh, good. Yay.

2000
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:07,920
» Thank you, Commissioner Sparkle. Um, I
did the CIS screening. um for recruiting

2001
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:12,640
and hiring and bringing people on
boarding for new employees and it was

2002
02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:16,720
excellent. It was excellent. Um I I wish
you guys could have gone.

2003
02:32:13,760 --> 02:32:22,640
» I thought that I signed up and I did not
and then I ended up uh I I testified at

2004
02:32:20,319 --> 02:32:26,880
10. I was the last one to testify on the
wolf bill at 10

2005
02:32:24,319 --> 02:32:30,479
» and and I went in there just to make
sure that I that I signed up because

2006
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:33,840
mine looks different than Donny's on the
calendar or yours on the calendar and

2007
02:32:32,399 --> 02:32:37,840
and it said you're not signed up for
this. Your next opportunity is Clamoth

2008
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:42,000
Falls and I'm like nope. Okay.
>> There was quite a few people there and

2009
02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:43,280
there was a few people from uh Ontario
Grand.

2010
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:44,560
» Nice.
>> Yeah.

2011
02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:51,280
» Yeah.
>> There was so anyway um and then I'm also

2012
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:56,960
now on the
local area

2013
02:32:53,520 --> 02:33:00,560
mental health partnership
>> in addition to you know that was the new

2014
02:32:58,960 --> 02:33:03,680
directions thing is so there's like two
or three of the mental health the local

2015
02:33:02,319 --> 02:33:06,880
area mental health departments and so
there's like two or three different

2016
02:33:04,880 --> 02:33:11,439
committees and so I'm on that one and so
county college is next week

2017
02:33:08,960 --> 02:33:17,560
» um and then we have our community
outreach and Jane's going to go to

2018
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:17,560
halfway so that's all I have

2019
02:33:18,319 --> 02:33:21,280
» Thursday and

2020
02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:25,760
Oh, Friday. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
out of town for

2021
02:33:24,880 --> 02:33:28,880
» You're not going to do the natural
resource

2022
02:33:26,399 --> 02:33:33,280
» on Friday? No, I saw that. Um, no, I'll
be out of town. It's at 1:00. They

2023
02:33:30,560 --> 02:33:38,160
switched it and last last Monday was on
Monday. So, um, I'll be I'll be in for

2024
02:33:36,399 --> 02:33:42,080
the Monday, but
>> but I have the I have the agenda for

2025
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:46,240
natural resources right now. I can look
at any of it. And

2026
02:33:43,600 --> 02:33:49,439
» when is that?
>> Is that this Friday or

2027
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:51,600
» Yes, this Friday at 1. Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah.

2028
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:56,880
» Yeah. Health uh health human services is
at 8. There's one at 10 or natural

2029
02:33:54,319 --> 02:33:59,600
resources one there's one at 10 and then
there's another one at three and then on

2030
02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:01,520
Monday there's
>> three must be mine

2031
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:02,399
» the whole
>> Yeah.

2032
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:07,920
» Okay.
>> But I'm not I'm not chair this time.

2033
02:34:05,359 --> 02:34:09,280
» Um HHS is
>> okay.

2034
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:13,680
» Oh, yours on transportation.
>> Um I don't know what that is.

2035
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:18,000
» Me? No, I've got um public safety.
>> That's you. That's your comparison and

2036
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:22,080
your updates and everything. I my dates
keep moving. I've got what we just

2037
02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:26,520
talked about of it's not my turn to
present for health and human

2038
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:33,120
for public safety.
>> Okay. Oh.

2039
02:34:29,120 --> 02:34:38,720
» Uh so I mean I'll still sit in and then
uh you know wedge and all of that. Uh,

2040
02:34:35,840 --> 02:34:41,280
apparently I'm going to
wherever the

2041
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:50,880
» halfway on Tuesday
>> on the 13th and then Friday I've got a

2042
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:54,640
thing I need to testify on for uh the
ask for the housing up at halfway.

2043
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:58,880
» Okay.
>> Um,

2044
02:34:56,960 --> 02:35:02,240
other than that, I had a bunch of stuff
canceled and switched around again, so I

2045
02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:06,319
don't want that.
>> Okay. Um, so is that yours

2046
02:35:05,600 --> 02:35:12,800
» pretty much?
>> Okay. I have two updates. One of them is

2047
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:16,399
that uh so the mobile home at that used
to sit at Huitt was moved over to

2048
02:35:14,319 --> 02:35:23,520
Hulcom. The idea was that we would put
it up close to the um wellhouse. It's um

2049
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:29,280
it can't be moved up to the wellhouse at
with the current grade and uh that is on

2050
02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:33,520
that road. Uh it's too steep and you
know not enough of a gentle incline to

2051
02:35:31,600 --> 02:35:39,840
get it up there. It's settling where
it's at. Um, and so the parks is uh I

2052
02:35:37,359 --> 02:35:44,080
was down there yesterday uh for an
interview and then some other stuff

2053
02:35:41,359 --> 02:35:50,160
yesterday and um talked about it with
Donnie and to move it up there would

2054
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:54,399
take the road work from the road
department who which they're really

2055
02:35:51,359 --> 02:35:59,280
stretched thin right now. Um there's
interest uh well let me see it take

2056
02:35:56,960 --> 02:36:05,439
1,000 foot sewer line uh that we'd have
to dig and put in 100 foot of both

2057
02:36:02,319 --> 02:36:09,520
electric and um water line which isn't a
big deal but um right now it is settling

2058
02:36:07,920 --> 02:36:14,800
to the point that a door popped open it
had to be screwed shut and um the inside

2059
02:36:12,560 --> 02:36:18,479
is really nice. I swear when we did the
walkthrough last year when John left, I

2060
02:36:16,800 --> 02:36:23,120
thought I had to do the rock walkthrough
and I thought, oh, oh, you know, and I

2061
02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:27,040
walked in like, oh, this is really nice.
It's really nice on the inside. It's

2062
02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:32,160
single wide, so it would be easier to
move, you know, um, than a double, but

2063
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:37,439
it's still where we wanted it to go.
It's just not working. If we were to go

2064
02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:41,840
ahead and do all the work and do the
road work, anywhere that we dig up

2065
02:36:39,120 --> 02:36:48,720
there, we have to do a cultural study
anywhere. And so then that would also be

2066
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:53,520
a whole series of stuff like that.
There's interest in the valley to

2067
02:36:50,240 --> 02:36:57,120
purchase that and move it um within
Richland Valley. And uh

2068
02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:58,720
» because the value we'd have to put it up
for

2069
02:36:57,840 --> 02:37:02,240
» Yeah.
>> Uh or for sale, can't we?

2070
02:37:01,439 --> 02:37:06,399
» We have to do
>> we have to do a Okay. So whatever we

2071
02:37:04,960 --> 02:37:10,000
have to do, I don't know. I've never
sold a a trailer house.

2072
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:14,720
» Work with Dan. He does the uh
>> through facilities. He could sell it.

2073
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:16,960
Okay. Okay, Dan facilities. Thank you.
And if you guys are okay with that, then

2074
02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:21,120
I will
>> I'm good. It's unless we have to insure.

2075
02:37:19,280 --> 02:37:25,359
» So that just means you don't have place
for somebody to live now for your

2076
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:30,479
part-time person for your maintenance
person, they won't live on on site.

2077
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:35,920
» Nobody can live on site. Well, okay. Not
anymore. Since John left that that just

2078
02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:39,520
went away. Um the idea behind it up
there would be more of a presence over

2079
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:42,240
at Hulcom because there's no office over
there, right?

2080
02:37:40,399 --> 02:37:47,439
» Down the road. It would be nice to look
at the possibility of an office up there

2081
02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:50,560
or a camper that is dedicated to the um
the parks, you know, for somebody to

2082
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:54,319
stay up there.
>> Like one of those sheds and frame.

2083
02:37:52,399 --> 02:37:58,160
» You could get a shed. You could get you
could do a camper. I mean, you could do

2084
02:37:56,160 --> 02:38:02,880
just a myriad of different things.
>> So, will Donna be able to see the

2085
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:08,399
cameras in her office?
>> Yeah. Perfect.

2086
02:38:03,600 --> 02:38:13,280
» Yeah. Yep. So, um so that's that's where
I I will follow through with Dan on that

2087
02:38:10,319 --> 02:38:16,960
one. And then um so you have consensus.
So

2088
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:22,640
» yeah, so I attended several of the Baker
County Livestock Association uh meetings

2089
02:38:19,439 --> 02:38:28,800
with with ODA for the TMDL
>> and the first one was uh just a few just

2090
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:34,800
bigger livestock only. Um Monday night
was uh public uh with ODA and the Baker

2091
02:38:32,479 --> 02:38:38,720
County Livestock Association. It was at
the event center. It was in the big

2092
02:38:36,560 --> 02:38:45,920
area.
>> I just got There was quite a quite a

2093
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:52,720
turnout. Um, and there was quite a bit
>> of feedback from the ranchers and

2094
02:38:48,960 --> 02:38:55,920
producers this time to ODA and what they
are asking and what they're not going to

2095
02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:59,200
be doing, what they are doing and
everything else. Good.

2096
02:38:57,040 --> 02:39:00,880
» And so it was really good.
>> Not just critics, it was a bunch of

2097
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:04,960
people.
>> Oh, it was a bunch of people. Um, it was

2098
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:09,200
a bunch of people saying no. And I had
to stand up when they started and just

2099
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:14,319
say
you are laying blame on the land owners,

2100
02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:18,000
the livestock owners right now
pre-monitoring.

2101
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:23,200
The monitoring is five years for a
reason because they approached it in

2102
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:26,240
what are you going to do livestock
owners to help us get to the desired

2103
02:39:25,439 --> 02:39:32,160
levels?
>> Oh and I said yes yes they did. And and

2104
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:35,359
I said you cannot lay blame on these
people. You don't know what the source

2105
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:39,840
is yet until we have five years
monitoring and DNA included in that. You

2106
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:46,800
don't know what the point source is and
you're blaming them before.

2107
02:39:42,479 --> 02:39:51,359
Huge huge feedback. They were railroaded
off of their um presentation that they

2108
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:59,200
did with the Baker County Livestock.
skip skip skip and it two hours that um

2109
02:39:56,080 --> 02:40:04,800
that it was it was down to and they keep
on saying that we we we say that ODA

2110
02:40:02,319 --> 02:40:10,960
that DEQ doesn't have any um say over
ODA that ODA is the is the um is the

2111
02:40:08,240 --> 02:40:14,800
state agency that has the power the DEQ
doesn't have power over them but

2112
02:40:12,479 --> 02:40:20,720
everything that they said was like well
DEQ said that we have to DEEQ says that

2113
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:24,560
we have to you know that says ODA says
we don't have to sorry

2114
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:27,760
» ODA says that it's it's up to them and
then he kept on saying we are going to

2115
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:33,280
do this we're going to do that and it
was brought to their attention you're

2116
02:40:30,319 --> 02:40:36,560
not doing anything powder basin wershed
water conservation district

2117
02:40:34,399 --> 02:40:40,479
» 50 from the
>> and all yep and all of these but but

2118
02:40:38,960 --> 02:40:45,520
they're not even going to be doing the
monitoring ODA isn't going to they're

2119
02:40:42,399 --> 02:40:50,560
relying on all of these other agencies
that are in the DMA

2120
02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:55,280
um that that have to write their their
plans and they have to do the

2121
02:40:52,560 --> 02:41:00,080
monitoring. ODA is on there, but they're
using these other

2122
02:40:56,960 --> 02:41:06,319
» agencies to do it. So, they're not it's
it's totally backwards.

2123
02:41:02,399 --> 02:41:10,720
» Cattleman's stood up. I stood up.
>> Even your uh the president uh Jim

2124
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:15,680
» Jim
>> stood up and said, "Okay, this is stop.

2125
02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:18,640
This is you. You've got to stop your
presentation because this is what we

2126
02:41:17,520 --> 02:41:21,680
want to hear. We want to hear about
monitoring." That's and that's what we

2127
02:41:20,399 --> 02:41:24,560
said. This is all that you should be
hearing that you should be talking about

2128
02:41:22,960 --> 02:41:27,439
right now is what you're going to do for
monitoring. And they can't even do that

2129
02:41:26,399 --> 02:41:29,520
because they're not doing the
monitoring.

2130
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:33,280
» So Tim is very much working.
>> Yes.

2131
02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:39,520
» He did a he's done a lot of um
legislative work in the past.

2132
02:41:36,160 --> 02:41:42,880
» So and and and then I'm sure that you
received this from Drew Farmer Cous

2133
02:41:42,399 --> 02:41:45,200
County.
>> I did.

2134
02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:51,280
» Okay.
I love it. I think we should sign on to

2135
02:41:47,840 --> 02:41:56,319
it. So I am in support of this and it's
basically that um he's he's a

2136
02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:59,439
commissioner from Kous County. He has an
>> I was thinking

2137
02:41:58,080 --> 02:42:03,600
» he has an idea to resolve county
deficits by negating the ongoing funding

2138
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:09,120
challenges caused by measures five and
50. And um the proposal is to require 5%

2139
02:42:07,359 --> 02:42:13,760
state income taxes to return to their
counties of origin. This bypasses any

2140
02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:18,720
scaling restrictions caused by measures
five and 50 and creates a local benefit

2141
02:42:15,680 --> 02:42:22,800
from increasing local wages. The dollar
amounts for each county will be listed

2142
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:29,200
on the So the dollar amount for Baker
County is 1,155,000.

2143
02:42:26,319 --> 02:42:32,800
» So So he says he's having a he's not
sure if it go to the legislature or put

2144
02:42:31,760 --> 02:42:35,840
it on the ballot.
>> Yeah, because so right now AOC can't

2145
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:41,280
help him,
>> right? Um he says that um

2146
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:45,920
» has the legislature time.
>> Um why did he say AOC is restricted from

2147
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:49,040
assisting?
So that's

2148
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:51,600
» um let me see. He said
>> so I'm going to keep this because I will

2149
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:55,520
see him
>> because this proposal includes a ballot

2150
02:42:53,520 --> 02:43:00,399
measure.
>> Uh the AOC is restricted from assisting.

2151
02:42:58,240 --> 02:43:06,160
» No, they couldn't. Okay. So, I would
like our county to

2152
02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:09,680
sign on with him and say, "Yes, we are
in favor of this." If you two, and if

2153
02:43:08,479 --> 02:43:16,319
you're going to see him at county
college, I think that I would I got back

2154
02:43:13,040 --> 02:43:20,960
to him and I said, um, I I I like the
proposal that I would talk to you two

2155
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:24,160
and that uh we would confirm our
involvement moving forward.

2156
02:43:22,880 --> 02:43:27,280
» I' I'd sign him. Absolutely.
>> You want me to? Yeah, we got to if it's

2157
02:43:25,840 --> 02:43:31,359
a ballot measure, we kind of have to
>> Well, it just gives it just gives him

2158
02:43:28,880 --> 02:43:35,359
some ideas. It's the emphasis before the
ballot, you know, who's going to help.

2159
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:39,359
» And you can't. Yeah, before if we're in
agreement before the ballot measures

2160
02:43:37,840 --> 02:43:42,640
written and prepared. That's okay.
>> Well, that's what he's asking for is who

2161
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:45,200
is with me if he goes through all of
this work to do.

2162
02:43:43,439 --> 02:43:49,200
» I was going to take that in and talk to
Carrie about it and I haven't had

2163
02:43:47,279 --> 02:43:55,040
chance. Do you want to do it or
>> I don't have time today. Like I say, I

2164
02:43:50,720 --> 02:44:01,120
have meetings from noon to 5. So, um,
why would you talk to Krie?

2165
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:05,279
» Why would you talk to Krie about it?
>> He's been doing it for all these years

2166
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:07,279
just to see if
>> But this is state level coming back to

2167
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:10,880
us,
>> right? But he knows Carrie knows the

2168
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:14,960
laws on it. It's just
>> on me. We changing major five and 50.

2169
02:44:13,359 --> 02:44:18,080
» Well, ask just ask him if he thought it
would work and then

2170
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:20,720
» I'm not going I'm
>> we don't have to do it today. I can do

2171
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:26,240
it if you want.
>> Yeah. because I don't know what it needs

2172
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:27,840
because it doesn't really say
>> it doesn't say what the funds would be

2173
02:44:27,439 --> 02:44:32,800
used for.
>> I think at this point I would like to

2174
02:44:29,680 --> 02:44:35,600
say yes we are behind you but we need
the details and then we're going to see

2175
02:44:34,319 --> 02:44:39,680
more of those details and we want to
know more down the road.

2176
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:44,319
» Okay. I will do that. Um I'll get back
to him today and and uh look at that.

2177
02:44:43,120 --> 02:44:48,880
» Um
>> we have too Yeah. As quickly as

2178
02:44:47,200 --> 02:44:53,840
possible. Since our last session I went
to that AFRC meeting. Um lot of good

2179
02:44:51,680 --> 02:44:58,800
came out of that. Like you heard today I
am getting a coalition of timber um

2180
02:44:56,399 --> 02:45:03,399
industry together. There is a small
mill. There is a small um

2181
02:45:05,120 --> 02:45:11,439
» no uh kiln
>> for lumber that is within our county. We

2182
02:45:09,520 --> 02:45:14,640
have timber companies and everything
else. And I'd like to bring them

2183
02:45:12,479 --> 02:45:19,040
together so that we can uh get with the
forest service and we can start moving

2184
02:45:16,319 --> 02:45:25,200
forward because uh region six Jackie
Buchanan's goal is not 25% as per the um

2185
02:45:23,359 --> 02:45:31,680
executive order from the Trump
administration but it is over 30% by

2186
02:45:28,240 --> 02:45:35,760
2027. So hers is more ambitious in in
region six with us.

2187
02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:40,720
» Does that help our wershed?
>> Yeah. Uh there's a lot of stuff on that

2188
02:45:38,399 --> 02:45:43,840
just so so the watershed is through the
comment period right now. Just so you

2189
02:45:42,479 --> 02:45:48,800
guys know, I can just touch on that real
quick. It is through the comment period

2190
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:54,960
right now and um so I'm waiting for
confirmation uh that we will be in um

2191
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:57,680
the the end conversation of all comments
and everything like that so that we can

2192
02:45:56,560 --> 02:46:03,439
move forward.
>> Um and then on um Yeah. So I'll I'll

2193
02:46:02,319 --> 02:46:08,399
sorry I got
>> No, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. Um,

2194
02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:14,000
let's see. Went out and had the cleanup
at uh the wigwam. People turned out. It

2195
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:17,840
was It was a good turnout. We had a lot
of stuff to clean up. And then um

2196
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:21,359
» articles in Health Canyon Journal.
>> Oh, good. Good. Yep. I'll have to. So,

2197
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:24,240
you guys saw that Debbie Lawrence was
there. So, we were able to burn some

2198
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:28,399
piles and the neighbor was there and
he's like, "Can I burn too?" And so,

2199
02:46:26,960 --> 02:46:32,080
everybody all together. It was really
great. Um, neighbors were bring one

2200
02:46:30,640 --> 02:46:38,080
neighbor brought over his little tractor
and was doing stuff. So, it's so nice.

2201
02:46:36,560 --> 02:46:42,560
Um,
and let's see, did it do we had an

2202
02:46:40,640 --> 02:46:47,600
ENRACH meeting covered a bunch of the
the natural resource issues and the

2203
02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:53,279
watershed and all of that. Um, I
testified on the wolf. Uh, there was

2204
02:46:50,000 --> 02:47:00,319
actually there was Burk Meer from uh, WA
County. He was in tears. Uh,

2205
02:46:56,479 --> 02:47:05,680
» no, his son. Um, and uh, Tom.
>> Yeah, Tom. Tom.

2206
02:47:01,279 --> 02:47:11,840
» Um, he was in tears. Uh they had had at
that point that morning he said around

2207
02:47:08,560 --> 02:47:16,720
five depradations from um a pack that
>> Todd was talking about that yesterday.

2208
02:47:13,359 --> 02:47:22,160
» Yeah. And and his wife his oh his wife
got on. She was great. And then Lake

2209
02:47:18,960 --> 02:47:27,279
County Commissioner got on and he he's
from uh he our wolf traveled all the way

2210
02:47:24,880 --> 02:47:33,359
down depreated and then hit their county
and he was reduced to tears and put up

2211
02:47:29,920 --> 02:47:37,760
the agri stress stress help line number
contact for people very very emotional

2212
02:47:36,160 --> 02:47:45,279
and like I say I was the last one to
>> Was that Barry or or I don't I don't too

2213
02:47:42,080 --> 02:47:51,520
much up here. Um I had Tri County
quarterly uh board meeting uh that was a

2214
02:47:48,479 --> 02:47:57,120
good meeting. Um
moving forward they Shondaanda uh has

2215
02:47:54,479 --> 02:48:01,760
secured close to 2 million for treatment
on the fire areas.

2216
02:47:58,960 --> 02:48:07,920
» Yeah. So that's all working and then due
to our status of um

2217
02:48:06,399 --> 02:48:13,760
audits
um BLM is there was a big discussion

2218
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:20,080
about 50,000 that's supposed to go to
Baker County weed. It's going to have to

2219
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:26,479
be modified to go through uh Tri County
in order to receive that. And that was

2220
02:48:23,359 --> 02:48:29,520
for some of the the fire areas as well.
>> So getting close.

2221
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:33,120
» Okay. because that's that's a
conversation within a few of the

2222
02:48:31,840 --> 02:48:35,680
committees and
>> they have everything that they need at

2223
02:48:35,120 --> 02:48:38,160
this point.
>> Okay.

2224
02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:40,160
» Believe listening to Christina. Um they
have everything they need. So it's in

2225
02:48:39,279 --> 02:48:44,000
their Okay.
>> So she's submitted everything to them at

2226
02:48:42,160 --> 02:48:48,080
the
>> for 21 22 23

2227
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:51,439
» 21
>> just 21. Okay. Okay.

2228
02:48:49,920 --> 02:48:56,000
» I'm just doing one year at a time.
>> Yeah. Okay.

2229
02:48:52,319 --> 02:48:59,120
» She's hoping by the end of this year
calendar here. Okay. to have another

2230
02:48:58,240 --> 02:49:04,240
one.
>> Uh so, uh I on Monday I went out with

2231
02:49:02,160 --> 02:49:09,359
Luke from um the road department. We
went out to the Bert River crossing um

2232
02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:12,640
where a bridge was taken out and people
have just crossed through it to get up

2233
02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:17,439
to their mines and everything. It it
connects to Clark's Creek and

2234
02:49:15,279 --> 02:49:21,439
» he's talking about that's what they're
going to build that with they're going

2235
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:25,200
to build that bridge, right? No, no,
there's not going to be any bridge that

2236
02:49:22,960 --> 02:49:30,960
it's BLM removed that bridge, but it's
but it it's county road up through it.

2237
02:49:28,319 --> 02:49:33,840
So, what they did is in the past when
the water goes down, you can just ford

2238
02:49:32,399 --> 02:49:37,760
it. you can go through and then you hook
up and everything and you go through.

2239
02:49:35,439 --> 02:49:43,279
And then uh years ago, road department
came in and they put boulders upstream

2240
02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:46,319
and that caused holes behind it and
things moving and everything. And now

2241
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:51,760
under high water where we were standing
yesterday, note that it's not as high as

2242
02:49:49,279 --> 02:49:56,800
what I you know like years where it's
like last year when it was flooding it

2243
02:49:53,120 --> 02:50:00,479
was over the road. Um it it's you can't
see into it though. So mine you can't

2244
02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:05,200
tell where the if there's a boulder or
not if you were to fort it. So, I will

2245
02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:09,920
go back up when the water is down, but
the road department is looking at um

2246
02:50:07,439 --> 02:50:13,840
just placing maybe some concrete
railroad ties that were taken out that

2247
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:18,319
that you see in piles here and there.
Maybe utilizing those and placing them

2248
02:50:16,800 --> 02:50:20,960
as like an underwater
>> Oh.

2249
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:25,040
» type, you know, thing. I don't know. But
>> isn't that the one that he wanted the

2250
02:50:22,640 --> 02:50:27,359
pressure for that? Wasn't that the
Clark?

2251
02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:30,720
» That's Clark's Creek. But this is Burnt
River Cross. This is on Burnt River and

2252
02:50:29,200 --> 02:50:34,800
it connects to Clark's Creek.
>> Okay. All right. That's one way of going

2253
02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:38,960
in or this way and it's shorter this way
for the miners. Two of the miners are in

2254
02:50:36,640 --> 02:50:44,880
their early 80s that forge this river
and go up to their mines. So, and then

2255
02:50:42,160 --> 02:50:50,479
so on the way back we were talking about
um Highway 30 in the trash and Luke

2256
02:50:47,359 --> 02:50:55,680
right now is in talks with the prison
and getting that agreement back in place

2257
02:50:53,279 --> 02:51:00,479
with the prisoners to clean it up. Um
there was a few questions. I called the

2258
02:50:58,479 --> 02:51:06,960
sanitary service while we were in the
vehicle together. Stephen got back to um

2259
02:51:04,399 --> 02:51:12,000
to both of us and so that's moving
forward. The the road department is

2260
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:17,680
going to provide the safety signage
saying that there's work going on and

2261
02:51:14,319 --> 02:51:22,880
the bags and um then there was a
question of disposing and it and then I

2262
02:51:20,640 --> 02:51:26,560
left that with Stephen and Luke of
disposing the full bags to the

2263
02:51:25,040 --> 02:51:29,920
» Yeah. And typically there's not a fee
for that either, Stephen says.

2264
02:51:27,680 --> 02:51:33,359
» Correct. Correct. So that's and that was
that was part of our discussion. So that

2265
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:38,640
we should be seeing that agreement very
soon and getting that done because that

2266
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:42,240
was a 10year span that that had that
agreement had lapsed.

2267
02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:45,760
» Uh yeah, I talked uh shoot I can't think
of her name at the prison and she said

2268
02:51:44,240 --> 02:51:51,279
that she was working with Luke and I
hadn't heard back from Luke and I hadn't

2269
02:51:48,319 --> 02:51:54,479
checked on the disposal. So thank you.
>> Yeah. So, it just happened that we were

2270
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:56,800
in the car and he goes, "Oh, I have some
I have some questions about this."

2271
02:51:56,319 --> 02:52:06,000
» Yeah.
>> Um, so, uh, uh, today I have, uh,

2272
02:52:01,680 --> 02:52:11,040
several meetings, uh, with potential EDC
type stuff that that, uh,

2273
02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:16,560
hopefully will happen within within the
county with different entities that I'm

2274
02:52:12,880 --> 02:52:23,439
meeting with today. Um
uh and then uh I have powder base and

2275
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:28,399
TMDL tomorrow that's with all agencies
and that's a zoom

2276
02:52:25,680 --> 02:52:35,279
» and then of course you you said the
natural resources and then going forward

2277
02:52:30,479 --> 02:52:41,760
to for or the legislative on Monday
>> and then I have Bick in the Grand on the

2278
02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:49,120
13th and then the new directions the
14th we have the comp board

2279
02:52:45,279 --> 02:52:56,479
15th um TLT
and that's when the Court Street Plaza

2280
02:52:52,720 --> 02:52:59,120
and one request from
>> um from Chris

2281
02:52:58,479 --> 02:53:05,840
» Christopher
>> Christopher is going to be there. Um and

2282
02:53:03,359 --> 02:53:12,640
then going towards our next meeting the
19th 20th

2283
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:17,520
um EDC is on the 20th and then we go
into our meeting and uh and then I have

2284
02:53:15,920 --> 02:53:21,760
a partner meeting out there at the
chamber after our 20 our session on the

2285
02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:24,640
21st. So,
>> okay.

2286
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:27,120
» Um, I forgot to say we have a new
superintendent.

2287
02:53:26,479 --> 02:53:30,399
» Oh,
>> and what's Tyler Clark?

2288
02:53:29,200 --> 02:53:32,560
» Tyler Clark.
>> I don't know.

2289
02:53:30,800 --> 02:53:38,240
» He came he comes up to the he was the
security officer

2290
02:53:33,680 --> 02:53:42,720
» and he did so it's just now public. Um,
also just quick followup the dispatch

2291
02:53:40,720 --> 02:53:44,720
agreement between for fees between
Pioneer and the county. Do we have that

2292
02:53:44,479 --> 02:53:46,640
yet?
>> No.

2293
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:51,680
» Why not?
>> Who's doing that? Jason's work on Kim

2294
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:55,760
and I've heard of that.
>> And so then do we have the one the

2295
02:53:53,680 --> 02:54:00,080
agreement between the city and the
pioneer for the ambulance?

2296
02:53:57,760 --> 02:54:02,160
» Um I don't know
>> because you said you follow those two.

2297
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:05,920
Thanks.
>> Well, yeah, but the agreement between

2298
02:54:04,399 --> 02:54:09,600
Pioneer and the city, doesn't it?
>> It does affect us because we are in

2299
02:54:07,279 --> 02:54:13,760
charge of the ambulance district. So I
feel that we should have that on record.

2300
02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:17,920
Well, when they get it done, I'll get a
copy of it, but I don't have any

2301
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:23,200
mechanism to push that to get it done.
It's between a private entity and

2302
02:54:20,720 --> 02:54:27,200
another
>> practice because I think we should

2303
02:54:25,439 --> 02:54:29,840
before they do anything, we should be
having that done

2304
02:54:28,720 --> 02:54:31,920
» and we should have before we start
charging the fees, we should have that

2305
02:54:30,880 --> 02:54:35,840
agreement in place as well.
>> Charging what fees?

2306
02:54:33,439 --> 02:54:40,399
» The dispatch fees. We need to have that
in place before we start charging the

2307
02:54:37,520 --> 02:54:44,240
fees July one. And then we need to have
the ambulance. We need to have that in

2308
02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:48,240
place.
That's our

2309
02:54:47,040 --> 02:54:50,560
there's two agreements that we need
right now with find it.

2310
02:54:49,439 --> 02:54:56,000
» Yeah, we need to get it done.
>> But the one agreement hasn't got hardly

2311
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:58,800
anything to do with the county. It's
it's the backup for

2312
02:54:57,600 --> 02:55:02,319
» but it does have to do with the county
because we are the people that are in

2313
02:55:01,200 --> 02:55:05,760
charge of the ambulance,
>> right? So, it is in charge because we

2314
02:55:04,319 --> 02:55:10,399
need to make sure that whoever has that
contract is doing it legally. If you're

2315
02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:14,880
out there doing an ambulance, we need to
make sure that they're doing it under

2316
02:55:12,560 --> 02:55:17,040
Pioneer, not on their own. And that's
why I feel that we need to have that,

2317
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:21,040
» right?
>> Why did the fire department come here

2318
02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:24,960
when that incident happened?
>> They follow every ambulance. They do.

2319
02:55:23,200 --> 02:55:27,760
They um I talked to Travis about that
and um

2320
02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:33,120
» at this point because they wanted him to
just dispatch when it was severe. Mhm.

2321
02:55:31,680 --> 02:55:36,800
» He says, "I can't make that call."
Right? You can't ask the dispatchers to

2322
02:55:34,640 --> 02:55:41,359
make that call. So, they dispatch every
call.

2323
02:55:38,720 --> 02:55:45,040
» Every people complain about it, but
everybody everywhere else in the world

2324
02:55:43,520 --> 02:55:50,800
does it that way. So,
>> Oh, I I just that's up to the city. I

2325
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:55,439
just for me, if I had a tight budget,
>> because there's a lot of fuel on things

2326
02:55:52,960 --> 02:55:56,640
like that. So, so
>> Okay.

2327
02:55:55,920 --> 02:55:58,800
» Okay.
>> So, that's it. I'll move to a journ.

2328
02:55:58,319 --> 02:56:03,359
» I'll make
>> All right. Second. All in favor say I.

2329
02:56:01,439 --> 02:56:05,680
» I beat you.
>> Yeah. Did you have anything, Matthew?

2330
02:56:04,479 --> 02:56:10,479
I'm sorry. We didn't
>> motion to adjourn. We are now adjourned.