[0:00] is now in session.
[0:05] » Dear Father in heaven, thank you for
being here with us today and thank you
[0:08] for keeping your hand of guidance over
each and every one of us as we work to
[0:13] lead here. Thank you for the springtime
that you've brought uh our communities
[0:17] and our valley. Once again, as I always
ask, guide our words, our thoughts, and
[0:21] our actions in Jesus name. Amen.
>> Amen.
[0:26] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:32] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:38] justice for all.
[0:42] » There's a stain on the flag.
[0:46] » I think it's just
[0:58] That fix it.
>> I had to rearrange furniture.
[1:03] » Oh, I can't.
[1:06] The table always keeps moving back.
>> I just did it that way.
[1:12] » My diet isn't going that well.
All right. Um, do we have any changes to
[1:20] the agenda or adoptions? I don't think
we do.
[1:25] All right, let's go with citizen
participation. This is for anything
[1:30] that's not on the agenda. I saw Mr.
Sappington coming up the hallway, so I
[1:37] thought we were going to have a taker.
[1:43] » Yeah. My name is Arthur Sappington.
I live at 3055
[1:49] 10th Street, apartment I. I'm here
representing the uh Snake River Music
[1:54] Gardens,
uh which is a 501c3
[2:00] uh environmental program watershed for
all of the Snake River drainage from the
[2:07] headarters all the way to the Columbia
River.
[2:10] Uh what I'm here to talk about today is
what has happened in the last 100 days
[2:16] of uh
from the White House and how it affects
[2:22] uh the coordination programs that that
we're doing for watershed management
[2:28] within both public and private lands on
on uh the uh watershed of the Pow River
[2:36] drainage with the Pow River Wershed
Council.
[2:41] Uh there are three executive orders and
one supreme court case that are
[2:46] pertinent to what is happening at the
county level and state level. The state
[2:52] has totally ignored all the three
executive orders and the supreme court
[2:57] case. Supreme Court case is from uh 2024
and that's the one that I wrote the
[3:07] essay on the last time I was here doing
a presentation on the Snake River and
[3:13] the Blue Mountain Forest plan revision.
So I won't go over that other than the
[3:19] fact saying that that has resulted
in the u
[3:27] the executive order 14225
which deals with the forest timber
[3:35] management
>> for the timber harvest primarily and the
[3:39] wildfire uh inter agency funding
emergency funding for wildfires and
[3:45] such.
that's that directly affects us for both
[3:49] our public and private lands within the
county.
[3:54] Then the other two uh executive orders
is 14168
[4:00] and 14151.
[4:04] 168 deals with title nine
uh distinguishing between biological
[4:13] uh what is a biological male and female
and what is uh gender what they call
[4:21] gender determination.
It distinguishes that for that
[4:27] title nine as well. Then the other one
uh 141
[4:34] 51
deals with DEI
[4:39] and that deals with all of the racial
issues and all of the urban primarily
[4:45] urban uh social justice, environmental
justice and all that stuff within urban
[4:53] uh growth boundaries particularly for
this state.
[4:57] Uh so and one of the things is is the
for the county is the fact that DLCD's
[5:09] strategic plan from 2023 to 2031
is going to have to be scrapped and
[5:16] completely redone. The state is yet to
address that issue for the four parts of
[5:22] that plan. The first two uh deal with
the uh the two executive orders uh of
[5:30] the DEI and and title title nine. Uh
what that has to do in the strategic
[5:38] plan as what I've been arguing with for
years that it it didn't and now that is
[5:45] clarified and it's going to be
addressed. Okay. Now, uh, my wife is
[5:50] going to bring up the other work that
we're doing that we presented also
[5:56] earlier that has to do with the food
program within the local uh, farm to
[6:03] market within the county. So,
>> okay. And we need to keep this
[6:16] » until 10 after.
>> I'm Linda Sappington, 305510th Street,
[6:22] Unit I, Arthur's wife. We're presenting
a program. We've already sent it to
[6:29] Washington DC to the Department of
Health and Human Services. It's called
[6:36] Maha Make America Healthy Again Farms
and Ranches. And the idea is that any
[6:42] farm or ranch that wants to can become
an education center for making America
[6:48] healthy again because what happens on
the ground, the food that's grown, the
[6:53] cooking that's done, the food that's
preserved, the education that's passed
[6:57] on to our youth, that's what's really
going to make America healthy again. We
[7:03] sent a 13page paper to Washington. But
we're here in Baker County turning it
[7:09] into a book, a little booklet, a
handbook that we can hand to any rancher
[7:14] or farmer that's interested in becoming
part of the program. And when the book
[7:18] is published and printed locally, uh,
we'll bring a copy to the commission.
[7:24] » Well, I'd like to say it.
>> Thank you very much.
[7:27] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[7:29] I I I was going to let Art know that I I
have addressed the uh executive order
[7:34] for the timber increase. Uh I attended
the uh annual meeting for the American
[7:39] Forest Resource Council. Uh Chris French
was there, region six uh forester,
[7:45] Jackie Buchanan,
>> uh amongst many others. And uh that was
[7:50] the the big topic. and and to look
beyond your merchantable timber to the
[7:56] smaller timber the mess that we have uh
throughout the wa Whitman and utilizing
[8:01] that timber. So looking at um laminated
beams and different things like that for
[8:06] usage and uh a timber coalition is being
formed by me uh within the county so
[8:12] that we can push that forward. Jackie
Buchanan's uh target for uh the 25%
[8:18] increase is actually over 30% by 2027
instead of five years for region six. So
[8:25] just to let you know that I uh have been
uh in the works on that. So we'll see
[8:32] what we get. and to let you know outside
that you brought that up. I've also
[8:38] contacted the local BLM office
>> and they have to with the forest service
[8:45] were setting up for the distinction
between the BLM and the forest service
[8:50] for the mineral estate.
>> Yes. Yes. I read a Yeah,
[8:55] » their their old
memorandum of understanding is out the
[9:02] door.
>> Yeah, Jan Alexander just uh sent a
[9:05] really good letter to um to Washington
about uh the Forest Service uh the BLM
[9:12] taking over the permitting process and
things like that because they are more
[9:15] streamlined in the Forest Service for
the mining and extraction, mineral
[9:18] extractions and things like that.
Okay.
[9:23] » We're trying to set up through the St. C
gardens a meeting with the BLM
[9:30] supervisor and the poor supervisor as it
pertains to that
[9:36] at the local level because Washington
has already contacted them.
[9:43] » There's a huge curve.
>> Well, call me. Yeah, because we're under
[9:47] a time restraint. um contact me and you
know about any of this stuff in
[9:52] including that because we're looking at
uh possibly having Brooke Rollins here
[9:56] to Baker County if we can get her here.
So for your book and the farm uh food
[10:01] and and things like that is important.
So
[10:03] » yeah,
>> contact me.
[10:05] » All right. Anyone else have anything for
citizen participation?
[10:12] » No one online.
All right, seeing nothing, let's go to
[10:18] uh review and approval of the minutes.
We have minutes for March 12th, April
[10:23] 2nd, April 16th, and April 21st.
>> March 12th look fine. All those
[10:30] revisions and
>> yeah, it actually did actually must have
[10:34] seconded the motion because you were
talking about it. The only thing I can
[10:37] see.
>> Yeah, I thought that but
[10:39] » so verified it. So,
>> okay. I move to approve the um minutes
[10:43] of the uh special commission session for
March 12th, 2025.
[10:47] » I'll second
a motion and a second. Any further
[10:52] discussion? Saying none. All in favor
say I.
[10:55] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[10:58] » April 2nd. Same.
>> I didn't have anything. Okay.
[11:00] » No. Um I'll move to approve the
commission session minutes from April
[11:04] 2nd, 2025.
>> A second.
[11:07] » Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?
[11:10] Seeing none. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[11:13] » I. Motion carries.
>> April 16th. That's great.
[11:19] » Yeah.
>> I'll make a motion to approve April
[11:23] 16th, 2025 uh session minutes.
>> I'll second.
[11:27] » I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion? Seeing none, all in
[11:33] favor say I.
>> I.
[11:34] » I. Motion carries.
>> And same thing with the 21st. All right.
[11:39] I'll make a motion to approve April
21st, 2025
[11:43] commissioner session minutes.
>> A second.
[11:46] » Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?
[11:51] Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.
[11:53] » I. Motion carries.
>> All right. On to scheduled business.
[11:59] Facilities, come on up.
[12:10] timing isn't realistic.
[12:14] » The timing isn't realistic on there.
>> If he says everything's great and it's
[12:18] fine and walks out,
>> everything's fine. See you later. Look,
[12:22] we're back on track.
>> I will try to keep it brief. Thanks for
[12:26] having me. So, um, this is a the
department updates are kind of an
[12:30] opportunity for each of the department's
elected officials to come in and just
[12:34] give the the public and the
commissioners a kind of a quick, uh,
[12:37] preview of where we are and where we're
headed with things. Um, so the county's
[12:43] facilities department is a general fund
department um that currently consists of
[12:48] 3.75 um, FTE. Um our central operations
are here in the courthouse and uh we
[12:55] have an annual operating budget of just
a little over a million dollars. Um the
[13:00] some of the locations that we um take
care of which includes all county owned
[13:05] property, some rented leased as well. Um
but some examples of that of course are
[13:10] the county courthouse here, our justice
uh center jail, parole and probation
[13:15] offices, juvenile office, health
department, um weed department/emergency
[13:20] management um storage facility over on
Bridge Street, um some additional
[13:25] storage on 13th Street. And then we help
um our special funds with their uh
[13:30] buildings and locations as well, which
include things like the road department,
[13:33] museums, parks, and fair. Um we cover
all aspects of the county owned
[13:39] structures. Um so some examples of that
would include exterior uh components
[13:44] which are like roofs, siding, doors,
windows, locks, that sort of thing. Um
[13:49] interior components, everything from
floors, walls, paint, trim, uh plumbing,
[13:54] electrical, and HVAC issues. And always
get the question HVAC, which is heating,
[13:58] ventilation, and air conditioning. um
life safety components, fire systems,
[14:03] security uh systems, elevators, backflow
um devices and all that. Um we also uh
[14:10] provide in-house all of our janitorial
and maintenance um for our um facilities
[14:16] which include um or which provides you
know safe sanitary conditions not only
[14:23] for for our employees um folks confined
in the jail but also the public. And
[14:28] that includes over 60 uh toilets, over
60 sinks and 10 urinal. So that's always
[14:34] a lot of a lot of business busyness. Um
we we also in house cover all the
[14:40] grounds maintenance uh needs for for our
location. So this includes, you know,
[14:44] lawn maintenance, weed abatement,
irrigation systems, tree care, and our
[14:49] walkways, parking, and pathways. Uh we
address striping, resurfacing, and snow
[14:54] and ice mitigation. So there's always
lots of work to do there. Um we also are
[15:00] tasked with long-term secure storage of
documentation and document uh uh
[15:05] destruction and and that process. Um a
few examples of some of the projects
[15:11] we've had going or currently working on
or going to be taking on um here at the
[15:17] courthouse. Uh completed project was
last fall repaving the west drive um and
[15:22] entrance uh area to the courthouse here.
It involved tree removal base prep by
[15:26] the road department for the paving and
then once it was completed the
[15:30] restriping and um markings. Uh we're
continuing to work on the remodel of our
[15:35] tech area expansion and planning
department move which is down in the
[15:38] basement area kind of encompassing an
area that the water masters used to
[15:42] utilize and then some additional
storage. uh with uh completion slated by
[15:47] the end of this budget year um for phase
one being the planning and tech moves
[15:52] and then we would be able to take on the
second phase of that which is rehabbing
[15:56] the existing tech space to enlarge our
server room capacity and make their
[16:00] space a little more usable. Um, and then
upcoming we're going to be working on a
[16:05] new transaction window for circuit court
um and a hardening of their entryway to
[16:11] to be more compliant with their safety
and security concerns up there. Uh, at
[16:15] the Justice Center, we put in new
stainless steel countertops on
[16:18] everything out there. Uh we completed a
repaint of all the exterior and we're
[16:23] continuing to work on um their emergency
operation addition which is about a 3500
[16:29] square foot edition that um
is in the final phases of engineering
[16:35] and design and should be going out for
bid sometime hopefully later this month.
[16:40] um
special fund projects. We did uh we
[16:43] completed
we being the road department and the
[16:47] facilities department completed the
foundation for the road department's uh
[16:50] 9,000 foot storage building replacement.
Um and we're about to uh get started on
[16:56] repainting the weed building and EM
building over at 13th Street Storage. So
[17:02] uh we also participate in uh several
departmental specific activities
[17:07] throughout the year that require our um
services and couple of examples of those
[17:11] are securing and transporting mailing
for elections and for taxation purposes.
[17:16] And we also participated in in a couple
of community projects that were centric
[17:21] to the uh courthouse here location and
that was the operation green light and
[17:26] uh which was a recognition of veteran
services to our country and uh the
[17:30] Oregon gold star family memorial event
uh which was also hosted here at the
[17:34] courthouse and it was uh coordinated by
Rick Lori our veteran service officer.
[17:38] So overall, we have a very busy um
schedule, but it's been a successful
[17:43] year for us and we're looking forward to
uh another non-stop um busy year ahead
[17:49] of us. So that's kind of a few things in
a nutshell from our world.
[17:53] » I just want to say that I think your
department is amazing. You do a fabulous
[17:58] job with the 3.75
of what all you cover. I think you do an
[18:03] amazing job and you guys, somebody is
always around and I appreciate that.
[18:06] » Wonderful. Thank you. And that's a big
shout out to my team as well. I can't do
[18:10] it without the folks on on my team. So
>> they take all the flies out of my
[18:13] office. So that's a good thing.
>> Yeah.
[18:16] » If anybody knows up in the clock tower,
there's a lot of flies and so
[18:20] » they build up this time of year.
>> Yeah, definely.
[18:24] » That's the one thing I remember about
that room.
[18:27] » You do you do good work and and you have
a terrific staff. you you do a good job
[18:33] you picking and the and doing the hiring
because they're dedicated and and I I I
[18:39] like every one of your your team
>> always quick and friendly and get the
[18:44] job get the job done.
>> Well, thank you very much. Appreciate
[18:47] the time and
>> yeah, we appreciate all that you guys do
[18:50] for us and I will pass that on to him
because again with without my team of
[18:54] folks I I certainly can't do it all.
>> Thanks, Dan.
[19:03] Whitney, I'll ask him about our
thermostat later.
[19:10] [Music]
[19:15] All right, I guess we'll go move my
coffee. I will now open contract review
[19:20] board and we'll go on to DA, trauma
informed response training grant.
[19:29] Good morning.
>> Good morning. Long time no see.
[19:32] » Yeah,
she's been upstairs.
[19:36] » Um, so
the trauma informed response training
[19:41] one is just uh you guys approved me
submitting that grant last month
[19:46] » and they approved it and so it's just
the agreement for the one-year grant.
[19:50] That's all. You guys have any questions
about that?
[19:53] » You're just you're just needing a
signature on this one, right?
[19:55] » Just signature.
>> All right.
[19:57] » Okay.
And then the second one is our child
[20:01] abuse multidisciplinary intervention
grant which we apply for every um two
[20:08] years and it helps fund our child abuse
response team. Our mult multidisiplinary
[20:13] team meets every Tuesday or every other
Tuesday at New Directions. We talk about
[20:18] child abuse cases, how we're going to
respond to them. It has law enforcement
[20:23] us and so um it helps fund WDE's
position. and I actually bumped that up
[20:27] a little bit this year because we had an
uptick a little bit. So, um that'll help
[20:32] with his position a little bit. And
then, um our training funds, we send law
[20:38] enforcement, DHS workers, teachers,
people from our office to um trainings
[20:43] to make sure that we're up to date on
the newest and best way to investigate
[20:47] and prosecute child abuse. So,
>> so your contractors that you contract
[20:52] with, do do you also pay for their
training then when they go to Chelsea?
[20:56] » Yep.
>> Okay.
[20:57] » Yep.
>> Our forensic interviewer, we pay for all
[21:01] her training.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[21:07] » It doesn't have a match.
>> This one doesn't have any matches on it.
[21:12] » And there is a little bit. So, um
because of all of the federal freezes
[21:18] and such, it just um they don't fully
know what our budget's going to be, but
[21:22] they were they instructed us we have to
have it turned in by May 19th.
[21:26] » And so, we just have to base it off of
our budget from the last time. So, this
[21:31] is a little bit less than what our
budget was last time just because I
[21:34] wanted to give myself some cushion. But,
if they come back and say, "We'll give
[21:38] you another 10,000." It might be a
little bit more than this. and I'll just
[21:42] » we can work with Christina on getting
that done
[21:45] » on the unappropriated.
>> So yeah,
[21:48] but if I yeah I don't know the exact
funding amount. I just went to u I went
[21:53] to a Zoom meeting and they were like
yeah we don't know but if you can submit
[21:56] it
>> that's a common
[21:58] it's a common answer right now.
>> Yeah.
[22:01] » I'll move to approve the grant agreement
for trauma uh response training number
[22:05] TRIT-2025
uh Baker County.davvap DAV VAP 00014.
[22:13] » A second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[22:16] further discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor say I.
[22:20] » I. Motion carries.
>> That was the one that needed to be
[22:24] signed. The cam is the one I need to
submit.
[22:27] » Issue is just
>> Okay. Okay. Just check.
[22:31] » Yeah, we have to do Yeah,
>> we'll just do them separate. We'll just
[22:33] do them separate.
>> That's just a motion for I think you
[22:36] just have me.
>> So, you'll sign that one and get that
[22:38] back. Yeah. Okay.
>> Um and I'll move to um approve the grant
[22:44] application for multi um the multi
multi-disiplinary team. Okay. Hi. This
[22:49] is not working today.
>> I'll second.
[22:53] » All right. I have a motion and a second.
Any further discussion? You didn't even
[22:57] get give your pitch.
>> I gave the pitch. I gave it. You just
[23:01] gave it on both.
>> Oh, I guess I just th them together.
[23:04] » Oh, you did. That's right. All right.
All in no further discussion of all in
[23:10] favor say I.
>> I.
[23:11] » I. Motion carries.
>> All right.
[23:14] Thank you, Eddie.
[23:21] » All right. Emergency management.
[23:27] » Good morning, Gary.
>> Good.
[23:30] » Hey,
>> how are you?
[23:32] » Good.
>> Lot of folks. I feel like they should
[23:36] dance. I know.
>> Well, you can if you want.
[23:38] » No.
>> Hey, who are you driving around with
[23:40] yesterday?
>> Uh the uh Chief Carlson.
[23:43] » Well,
would you like to introduce him to us
[23:46] real quick while he's Well,
>> while I've got him in the back, it's
[23:50] easy to put him on the spot. He can't
get away.
[23:52] » This uh ladies and gentlemen, this is
Chief Michael Carlson and has taken over
[23:57] the reigns of Baker City and
>> welcome.
[24:00] » Doing a great job.
>> Welcome. It's very good to meet you and
[24:03] I'm pleased that you came today.
>> Nice to meet you. Thank It's very good
[24:06] to meet you.
>> All right.
[24:11] » So, I guess I'm here. Uh, you guys each
received a copy of the Baker County Fire
[24:18] Mutual Aid agreement.
>> Yes.
[24:20] » The only real change to the agreement
was uh we used to call it an allhazard
[24:24] agreement.
uh with the inject of a private
[24:29] ambulance, it was easier to work have an
ambulance mutual aid agreement and a
[24:34] fire mutual aid agreement. So if you see
some references in here about all hazard
[24:38] fire departments are all hazard anyway.
Wildland structural hazardous materials,
[24:44] extrication assistance with medical. So
uh but the title really is fire mutual
[24:49] aid agreement because it's the fire
agencies federal, local and state or
[24:53] federal, state and local agencies. So,
are we going to get one for the
[24:55] ambulance or do we already have one and
I don't know about that?
[24:58] » Uh Jason's out of the office, but I
believe that the ambulance uh mutual aid
[25:03] agreement was in motion and I think that
will include halfway ambulance
[25:09] ambulance and
can't answer that
[25:14] » just
[25:19] questions
>> and everybody signed on to it that was
[25:22] prior. Yeah. The signature.
>> Yes. And you can see some of the dates
[25:26] started in February.
>> I mean, like from the one that was in
[25:29] place a while back. Everybody else
signed on to it that had signed on to it
[25:32] before.
>> Yeah. This agreement's been around since
[25:34] 2005.
>> Understand the question.
[25:38] » You mean all the same agencies?
>> Yeah. Yes.
[25:41] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[25:42] » With the exception of the fores, all the
same agencies are signing.
[25:45] » Okay.
>> Pine Valley. Yeah. Out north.
[25:53] [Music]
missing or not. So, I just was asking
[25:59] » there actually I do have a red note
here.
[26:06] » You may not have a page from Bowen
Valley because they have their page. You
[26:09] haven't yet signed.
>> Okay.
[26:12] » So, if you're missing one, it's Greater
Bowen Valley Fire Protection District.
[26:18] » And it's just because you haven't got
there.
[26:20] » Is that Chris?
>> Chris. Yeah,
[26:22] » he's he's going to just had time for
this. He did something.
[26:26] » Okay. Thank you for noting that and
reminding me.
[26:32] » Yeah. Keeping track of all of them.
>> This is a non-binding
[26:35] non-fidiciary agreement. If one agency
can help, the other will help. If not,
[26:40] there's there's no
>> right.
[26:42] » Uh should we go past the 4hour
requirement initial aid agreement, we
[26:47] enter into what's called a supplemental
agreement. And that's where you start
[26:51] talking about fees payment usage beyond
helping.
[26:58] » Is that more when you get with state
forestry and BLM rather than Hannes and
[27:03] Baker rural or greater and sump or
something?
[27:07] » It's the same but how they fold out are
differently. So yes, the idea of Hannes
[27:11] charging Baker rural after the 4-hour
period is probably happen. Yeah, that's
[27:15] what I've got.
>> So, the supplemental agreement, you're
[27:17] exactly right, is uh is probably more
for uh for service field.
[27:23] The confusing part to this is we we
worked on direct hire agreements. Uh and
[27:28] so the there's direct hire agreements
with the Oregon Department of Forestry
[27:32] and BLM based on the four hours. And so
really, it's uh that piece is kind of in
[27:39] place. Uh where it gets a little
confusing uh confusing is the city for
[27:43] marshals office has upstaffing grants.
So it's going to get really complex what
[27:48] they did last year and hopefully we have
the right people around the table uh to
[27:54] work it out. But uh that's really you're
you're correct Michelle that's really
[27:57] the commissioner that's really the the
after this agreement ends and money's
[28:02] talked about a supplement agreement
comes in and those other agreements and
[28:06] that includes things like qualified
training uh the proper equipment uh
[28:11] personal protective equipment and those
things
[28:17] » so are we still at is it four days for
mutual aid that you can be out there
[28:21] » four hours
>> four hours and Yes.
[28:24] » Yeah.
>> So, that's not going to move.
[28:27] » Uh,
probably not. And here's why. Uh, most
[28:31] of the agencies in Baker County are
volunteer or provided a stipen, small
[28:37] stipen. They can't really give 12 to 24
hours. Now, with the upstaffing at the
[28:43] state fire marshal, we'll have to see
how these through because they will be
[28:48] paid for their responses.
>> Okay. Well, I thought that was a little
[28:51] bit of a hindrance. Um, in
four hours max, you know,
[28:58] » before the house staffing grant, things
like that, uh, it was 24.
[29:03] » That's a long time for people to leave
their normal jobs or ranches to go.
[29:07] » Okay.
>> Yeah. This was really designed for
[29:11] » paying to help out Baker. Baker to help
out bigger city.
[29:16] Not so much. Of course.
>> And then I like we sign on to it. Rare
[29:21] times we've had, you know, we had Noodle
come out two years ago to take a roof
[29:25] off a house while it was on fire. Yes.
>> That kind of thing. So that's that's our
[29:29] involvement.
>> And my program
[29:31] » and well in your program
>> uh coordination. Yeah. Things have
[29:37] gotten interesting.
>> Yeah. I just thought that but on the
[29:41] town go that was a little bit of a
hindrance on the four hours and having
[29:46] to change out. So
>> yeah.
[29:49] » Okay.
>> Um
[29:51] » well the
>> do we just need to move to have Shane
[29:53] sign or do we need to move to
>> and and also on Shane signature are you
[29:57] going to wait for Greater Bowen Valley
for Galazooi to get you that signature
[30:01] before he signs or
>> e you can do it either way. Ever almost
[30:05] everybody else has already signed
>> because it's not in there. It's just
[30:09] » this is all the rules for department of
forestry
[30:12] field.
>> It's listed in here. So
[30:16] » it is listed. So we just have to get
that agreement. Okay.
[30:19] » I'll do either way. I can come back for
signature.
[30:22] » So uh I'll make a motion to approve
emergency management Baker County Mutual
[30:26] aid agreement uh for Chair Olisha to
sign.
[30:31] » I'll second it.
>> All right. I have a motion and a second.
[30:35] Any further discussion? Hearing none.
All in favor say I.
[30:38] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[30:40] » Appreciate your time.
>> Thank you.
[30:41] » All right. Thank you.
[30:46] » All right. Road Departmentou with Upper
Burnt River Weed Control Management.
[30:51] » Um they they weren't able to be here
today. They're out busy working. But um
[30:58] uh they are what this is is they're
asking or I'm sorry, the Upper Brent
[31:03] River Control Management Area. They are
requesting the ability to put two
[31:07] storage sheds on uh county property out
in Harford where the Herford shop is
[31:13] located. Um there's no cost. Um the the
district there. They uh have insurance.
[31:23] They listed the county as additionally
insured.
[31:26] » Yeah.
>> They some of their members will have
[31:28] keys to the gate but not to the shop so
they can access their storage shed.
[31:35] So that's all this is. It's just anou
with with that red district for them to
[31:40] store their stuff on.
>> And it was pretty specific on what they
[31:45] can and can't do within that. So it is
very specific.
[31:48] » That's what I liked. I like that.
>> Yeah. They they brought that up during
[31:51] their annual weed meeting. Is that
January or February? Something like
[31:55] that. And Gussy
caught it and did this due diligence. So
[32:01] that's really nice. Kudos to Gussy if
she's still online. She is.
[32:05] » Um, so I'll move to approve the MOU with
upper burnt river weed control
[32:10] management for storage space.
>> I'll second.
[32:12] » I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion?
[32:16] » Seeing none. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[32:19] » I. Motion carries.
[32:25] » All right. Planning IGA with Harney
County for on-site wastewater management
[32:29] program.
Good morning.
[32:32] » I'm sure there's a lot of people pretty
excited about this.
[32:35] » Yeah, I uh I know I provided a staff
report to you guys, but I'll just
[32:39] briefly summarize what's going on for
anybody from the public that might be
[32:42] interested in the changes. Um,
historically, DEEQ has uh been in charge
[32:48] of the permitting and inspection of
on-site um septic systems in Baker
[32:52] County, and we had a regional person
doing that up until fall of last year.
[32:58] DEEQ has not filled that position. So
Baker County needed to figure out what
[33:03] we could do in the alternative like
alternatively to help our citizens and
[33:08] the public get all their septic
approvals completed. And so in
[33:13] discussions with Harney County, they are
interested in taking on that role still
[33:18] under the rules of DEQ, but they would
take on that role that role locally for
[33:22] Baker County. and the IG before you is
explaining the roles and
[33:27] responsibilities in the agreement
between DQ Harney County and Baker
[33:31] County. So that's what's before you
today is just the responsibilities of th
[33:35] those governing uh bodies um or
entities. And then there will be
[33:41] ordinances or an ordinance coming to you
later this month on how it's actually
[33:46] going to be locally implemented. But
before we do that, we needed to get the
[33:50] agreement signed if you guys agreed to
have Harne County handle that on behalf
[33:55] of DEQ. So
>> yeah,
[33:57] » I think it's a great partnership.
>> It is.
[33:59] » Yeah. And Har County is very excited to
work with us and I think it's actually
[34:03] going to expedite the process for people
in the county and so I think our the
[34:07] public will be
>> uh happier with their experiences. And
[34:13] and just to be clear, DEEQ
stopped offering this and this is why
[34:17] we're at this point with Harney.
>> Yes.
[34:20] » And there's technically no cost to the
county for everything.
[34:23] » Correct.
>> All the income and everything, all
[34:25] expenses income if they go down again.
>> Yes. Based off of the fees from their
[34:29] inspections and visits to the site. So,
um I will make a motion to approve uh or
[34:36] to authorize
[34:39] uh let me see Tara
Mishka uh interim planning director to
[34:46] sign the IGA uh for on-site septic
program with Harney County on behalf of
[34:52] Baker County. How's that?
>> Second.
[34:56] » I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion?
[35:00] Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.
[35:03] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[35:04] » Thank you for your work.
>> Yeah, that turns out better than it
[35:09] could have. So, I'm very happy.
>> Yeah. Thanks.
[35:18] » All right. Next up is PLTC Baker City
and Baker County Hulcom Huitt Park
[35:24] funding request.
[35:30] Right. Well, good morning commissioners.
Thank you for letting us come here to uh
[35:34] present this proposal. Um as as you all
asked us to do, we we sent these
[35:39] proposals to the um TLT committee. And
uh those were both passed with
[35:45] overwhelming support on to you. And so,
um, I'll just briefly go over the, uh,
[35:51] city's part for the startup cost for the
Baker City Tourism Fund, and then
[35:54] Councelor Joseph will cover the Court
Plaza request. Um,
[36:00] for our uh, application, which focuses
on the startup costs for Baker City's
[36:05] tourism fund, the intent of this is
basically to just ensure a smooth
[36:09] transition over to us starting our TLT
program. All the expenditures in there
[36:15] are uh expenditure and line items that
are already on the county's budget and
[36:19] our typical marketing expenditures for
um cities across Oregon. So uh when we
[36:26] presented it to the committee, it
originally was a $625,500
[36:31] request. Uh, Commissioner WHM had some
concerns with uh you all funding the
[36:37] entire Baker City downtown um costs for
the upcoming budget year and so we
[36:44] reduced that uh to cover what you had
already agreed to through October and
[36:49] then said the city would would cover the
rest. So we reduced our request from
[36:54] 625500
to 575500.
[36:58] Um,
from our perspective, we believe this is
[37:01] a fair request to the county. It allows
us to have the needed funds for the
[37:05] transition to give that smooth
transition. Uh, and it addresses the
[37:08] county's concern that the funds only be
spent in accordance with the county TLT
[37:12] ordinance. Um, so, uh, if approved, this
request, uh, and including the $200,000
[37:21] court plaza requests, that, uh, reflects
at or a little bit under 50% of the
[37:27] projected remaining balance. uh what
what we mentioned in the committee
[37:30] presentation and in the and in the uh um
narrative part of the application is
[37:37] that uh you know there's a good chance
that that ending fund balance could be
[37:41] nearly $2 million by the end of this
budget year. Um in which case we're not
[37:46] going to try to come back and ask for
for more money. So it you know at at the
[37:50] very least this is going to leave the
county with uh $800,000 plus and likely
[37:55] uh potentially up to $1.2 2 million. So,
we think this is a very fair request and
[38:02] we ask for your support.
>> I do have a question. Um,
[38:06] » on the tourism related facilities on the
one that you presented, it was just
[38:10] » generic 100,000,
>> right?
[38:12] » So, could we just throwing this out
here, could we put the Cork Street Plaza
[38:15] in there and then, I don't know, just
make it so that it's all there instead
[38:21] of having a separate one and that would
be your tourism related facility. I'm
[38:24] just throwing that out there. There's
several problems with that with the
[38:27] Court Street Plaza. Number one, TLTC did
say that they approved it contingent on
[38:32] proof that it actually falls into line
with Ora's uh rules and uh that that
[38:40] that is a and so I clarified with uh
with Orla uh and I sent that to Tyler uh
[38:48] and uh on that they uh Ora talked about
so that is not before us right now that
[38:55] is with TLT. it has to go back to TLT on
the 15th uh with the proof in order for
[39:02] that to move forward. Okay,
>> bottom line. Um it it doesn't fit. It
[39:07] does they don't it it doesn't have
parking. Um and then when he was talking
[39:11] about parks that fit they were the three
larger three larger parks that he gave
[39:17] he sent me examples of and I forwarded
to the TLTC to decide if they feel that
[39:22] it was that it's comparable and it's not
at all. It's not comparable at all with
[39:26] what he was saying uh actually fits. So
that court street plaza should not be in
[39:31] this conversation at all because it's
going back to the TLTC on the 15th.
[39:36] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[39:38] um on the other tourism uh when you're
talking about tourism related facilities
[39:42] and um that it fits your typical uh you
even though TLT uh C did approve it um
[39:52] from this from this list you did not
identify like normally people would have
[39:58] to identify um uh requesting for a
tourism related facility uh let me
[40:07] you it was not stated
um what the facility would be, what the
[40:14] project would be. You just did a general
facility. Other uh businesses that come
[40:20] and ask for that or other facilities
that ask for that would not be afforded
[40:25] that wide. Um just you we want the money
because we want to use it on tourism
[40:29] related facilities. They would have to
tell you specifically the project and
[40:33] the facility. Okay. um on the
BCD. Um so you you even though you you
[40:43] reduced it, you didn't reduce it on this
list, it's still at 80,000. Um but in
[40:49] the city council meeting, you stated
that you were going to
[40:55] take over that contract July 1st with
BCD.
[41:00] that you stated that and so either you
take it over on July 1st or we pay it
[41:07] monthly to BCD through October through
the end of that contract and it
[41:11] shouldn't be in here along with the uh
shrine game for 10,000 because uh that
[41:19] is actually included in the budget for
next year on the 227 227 budget uh for
[41:25] next year. It should not be included on
here. that's not that's not part of it
[41:29] because it is in in budget. So, um if
and and that's 25,000 instead of 80,000
[41:38] uh for BCD contract. Um so, just a
couple things uh just the tourism
[41:45] related facilities. I don't believe that
you gave uh what normally would be
[41:50] typical of um presentation and ask on
that one. Um there's a lot of fluff in
[41:58] the list that you ask for. Um you will
have funds for the 1A basketball
[42:05] tournament for 2026 by the time that
comes around. Uh I can go through it
[42:09] line by line, but uh what I am willing
to
[42:14] okay is the tax board training and
materials.
[42:19] uh realistically for a th000 development
of marketing marketing tools
[42:25] realistically for 6,000 brand
development 10,000 digital content and
[42:31] asset creation$10,000
that's a total of 27,000 and then plus
[42:37] the 25,000 contract uh for BCD and then
10,000 for um the shrine that is going
[42:44] to be in the budget for those two items
but the out of this list. I can see
[42:49] 27,000 actually fitting the uh request
>> out of 570,000.
[42:56] » Yes. Yep. And I can explain every one of
them if you want me to. If you want to
[43:01] take that time.
>> What you universally came up with is
[43:03] 238,000.
>> What's that?
[43:05] » The bottom number you have here is 238.
>> That's not why it says.
[43:10] » Yeah.
>> Oh, that's 238,500. That's if I you two
[43:15] decide that you want to give them all
the 238 or whatever. But I I will let
[43:20] you know that I'm at 27,000
>> plus the BCD plus the shrine.
[43:24] » 27,000.
>> 27,000 which is the top green
[43:28] highlighted those uh one, two, three,
four.
[43:31] » You only want to do these.
>> Yes. Oh,
[43:34] » because I and and um just because of
certain things which I like I told you
[43:40] like the development of marketing uh
electronic and marketing tools they're
[43:44] at 20,000
um amount based on the cost of domain
[43:48] name purchase web hosting and using an
online website provider social media
[43:53] sites
um provides social media accounts at no
[43:57] cost. Um really that's a realistic
number at 6,000.
[44:02] uh the other let me see tourism
associated cost which is the fifth one
[44:07] down that was 2,000 reduced that to500
so this is going off of the total
[44:13] 238,500
um just looking at the memberships for
[44:20] ODA or
OTTA and EOVA realistically it's um at
[44:29] 1,500
Uh let me see if we skip down to
[44:33] collaboration marketing. Um that was at
25 that was reduced down to 20.
[44:40] Uh the line item entails both private
and public entities working together to
[44:44] achieve boards scale marketing efforts.
It's just I mean I could keep on going
[44:48] through all of these on why the 238,500
out of their request of 570,500
[44:55] and I could go through all 14 of those
if you want.
[44:59] » So this came And and you were at the TLT
meeting, correct?
[45:03] » Yes.
>> And you only objected to
[45:06] » I did not object at all. I only observe
in the TLT.
[45:09] » I understand that. But you made them
come up with the $25,000 figure.
[45:13] » I didn't make anybody come up with
>> for
[45:16] » I didn't make anybody come up with
anything. the 25,000
[45:20] » June
>> the 25,000 for BCD that's listed on
[45:23] there is what is in the budget and I
already stated that along with the
[45:27] 10,000 for the shrine game
>> with the contract with BCD do you want
[45:31] to take it over in in what is it July
>> July one
[45:35] » or do you want us to carry it to the end
contract
[45:38] » we are willing to take it over on July 1
if you transfer the $25,000 from what
[45:44] you committed to that's what I was
talking about in the council BCD
[45:49] though and not the city if we do that.
>> I am fine with that as well. It doesn't
[45:56] it doesn't matter whether it goes
straight to BCD or not. Our point was
[46:00] » Yeah, it does.
>> You you all clearly
[46:02] » want this to be a clean break. So, this
was a way to make it a clean break of
[46:06] but that's okay. Fine. Give BCD the
$25,000 you committed to. we will cover
[46:13] the rest of that year and then you don't
have to worry about them starting July
[46:17] 1st. So that
>> so we would end the contract. Is it 30
[46:21] or 60 days? I don't what for her
contract.
[46:24] » No, her hers ends October 31st.
>> But if they want to take over,
[46:27] » they can get send us a bill,
>> right? But we have to end the contract
[46:32] and they have to come up with their own.
>> It doesn't they're going to have to do
[46:35] their own contract. We have to end ours.
I'm just
[46:38] » think October 31st.
>> Um,
[46:43] » if they take the contract over and they
cut ties with the county, we got to give
[46:48] them 30 or 60 days.
>> BCD.
[46:51] » Yeah.
>> Baker City downtown is not Baker City,
[46:54] though. So, Baker City downtown is
contracted through TLT and the county.
[46:59] We are going to pay them through October
when the contract ends. But they're
[47:02] saying that they want to
>> We don't want We're just giving options.
[47:06] » Well, well, which do you prefer?
>> It is easier to do that.
[47:11] » Yeah,
>> it is easier to do that.
[47:14] » Okay. So, we just maintain the contract
as it is
[47:18] through October.
>> We just want that contract honored
[47:21] through the end of October.
>> Okay. Yeah. I yeah I would I mean
[47:25] because she's our contractor and
>> and because it's it's in it and it is
[47:30] listed in the budget right now along
with the shrine. So it's just it's just
[47:33] makes sense that it would it would just
be paid directly during those times the
[47:38] shrine thing out.
>> Yeah, I think both those are reasonable.
[47:44] I think on the tourist related facility,
your county budget has a tourist related
[47:49] facility line item that is not
identified with specific facilities.
[47:54] That was our intent was to
>> I think that's based on the the grants
[47:58] and stuff like that. So I have an idea.
>> So
[48:01] » okay, go ahead.
>> Just before so we are going to create
[48:04] our own PLT commission, right?
>> Then distribute these funds very
[48:08] similarly to the way it's done now. So
in order to
[48:13] fund that commission and those programs,
you would need those funds without an
[48:18] identified
>> right
[48:19] » uh project. Yes.
>> But it goes against the ordinance. Yeah.
[48:24] » So, so just to so
>> I with the 57500 if we take out the 10
[48:31] for the shrine game
>> and take out the 25 and um
[48:37] » and the and the A1 B tournament.
>> Yeah, they'll have the funding by then.
[48:44] There's no reason to leave that.
That's fine. Okay. So, on the 100,000.
[48:49] So,
what I would propose is maybe not
[48:52] include the 100,000 now, but give the
city by the end of June 30th time to
[48:58] come up with a pro a plan or a grant for
the $100,000 tourism related facility to
[49:03] come up with that idea. Um, whether it
be the Court Street Plaza to include in
[49:06] that or whatever. Um, I do think it
needs to be more specific, but that's
[49:11] the only thing that I object to in this
in this proposal. Um, the more I look at
[49:15] it, it needs to be more defined um based
on the ordinance. And so, um, that would
[49:20] be and then I would like to entertain
that you could come back, you know, for
[49:25] $100,000, leave that on the table, come
back with $100,000 request.
[49:30] » Okay,
>> that's my suggestion.
[49:32] » I would also like uh the cooperative
marketing uh at zero. Um,
[49:38] that is
>> you don't want us to do any cooperative
[49:43] marketing with the county? Um that's so
Jessica and Travel Baker County have
[49:48] that in their budget uh for cooperative
marketing. So um the uh line item is
[49:55] redundant with the uh coop with the
collaboration marketing above it. You
[50:01] have collaboration marketing, you have
cooperative marketing. Um to me that's
[50:06] the same and I would put that at zero
because that's a double ask there. I
[50:12] would say zero for event grants. Um I
don't know.
[50:17] » So when
>> because there is no list of event grants
[50:21] events that that you're going to be uh
grant uh doing. BCD is receiving
[50:27] » uh funding and and all of that for Baker
City downtown events. Um I don't know. I
[50:33] tried thinking of any event that um is
not Baker City downtown um that's
[50:38] already being funded. Um, also I have
zero on uh wayfinding physical products
[50:46] and wayfinding electron. Nope, no, no,
no, no, sorry. Uh, let me see here.
[50:51] Wayfinding electronic products and the
travel and training. Um, and
[50:59] » the wayfinding is one of the biggest
things we want to do is putting up
[51:02] several signs as well as electronic
wavefinding which will significantly
[51:05] enhance
>> student. So that no the wayfinding
[51:08] physical uh is still in there at 100,000
but the electronic is at zero just due
[51:13] to um
online wayfinding services that that are
[51:19] at no cost such as Google for business
or something like that.
[51:22] » So can they can they work with Jessica
with the datafy? I mean we're paying
[51:28] they're paying x amount of dollars to do
the datafy. Isn't there a way to
[51:32] » they can work with Jessica all day long
every day if they want to. They don't
[51:36] collaborative marketing and all that
stuff.
[51:38] » So that's the collaborative marketing is
still funded up there. Collaborative
[51:42] have 20,000.
>> Okay. So what's the difference between
[51:44] collaborative and cooperative? I don't
understand. I didn't understand that.
[51:47] » Yeah. They're they're both intended. So
>> I I just let Barry
[51:54] go ahead. Well, Barry doesn't know. The
difference is
[51:59] » co-optive is like when you do a co-op
>> and the businesses downtown don't have
[52:04] to pay the whole thing for a trade
magazine or the
[52:10] » and and the other one is when you work
with different entities in the county or
[52:15] or
>> soounding. These are budget line items
[52:19] in the county's budget is the thing. And
our our position is to not
[52:24] » significantly degrade our requests
because we think it's reasonable. We
[52:28] think the number is reasonable. All of
those line items are in your county
[52:32] budget
>> and we think it's a very fair request.
[52:35] If we if we get down to $20,000, that's
totally unreasonable.
[52:40] » Well, I'm going down the list and
justifying the 238,500.
[52:44] Um the travel and training we also have
it zero because that's redundant. Um
[52:50] again uh it's already up there with
trade shows and conventions. So actually
[52:56] if you'll see that list for 238,500
you had trade shows conventions at
[53:03] 2,000. Actually that was up to 5,000 and
then this um travel and training taken
[53:09] away. Um and then the last one that I
removed from there was the tourism
[53:13] related facilities for the 100,000. So
that's how the 238,500.
[53:18] There is some redundancy. There is um
did up a couple of those lines that were
[53:24] lower like the guide distribution and um
the trade show conventions lines. So
[53:30] some of some of the lines increased,
some of them decreased. I think that we
[53:33] just need to make sure that in here and
in travel baker county budget that we
[53:40] work together because I I foresee this
is me and we're going to the boy down at
[53:46] the airport or you going to the Seattle
airport and you see a travel Baker
[53:48] County
>> one and you see a travel Baker city and
[53:52] that's what I think we don't need just
that just I think that would make us the
[53:56] laughing stop if we do something like
that.
[53:58] » Wow. when
>> IGA has ended. So
[54:02] » when we talked about this all through
the process, I've always said the last
[54:09] thing we need to do is make this
competitive between the two because
[54:14] » we're coming into,
you know, I owned a business on Main
[54:18] Street and had to shut the thing down
because we weren't making any money.
[54:22] people quit coming in and it just I just
didn't want to continue throwing money
[54:28] into it until things get better. I was
expecting to have a much more robust
[54:34] tourist season than I'm expecting right
now, just because I've been in the
[54:38] industry for a long time doing tourism
and outdoor recreation. And if the gas
[54:46] prices are up and tariffs are up and
people can't afford to travel, it's all
[54:50] going to be pretty low. You're going to
have like a a try
[54:55] try county pull to get people to come
in. And if you're if if all of these
[55:03] entities are working against each other
for marketing and exposure, it's going
[55:08] to be disastrous. and the county and the
city and the citizens that rely on all
[55:12] of this
are are going to be in trouble. It's not
[55:17] going to be good. You guys have a
tourism industry. The county has
[55:21] tourism, agriculture,
and healthcare.
[55:25] » Yeah. And that is that is marked out on
the agriculture, too. I I can't imagine
[55:29] any agriculture within the city, but
>> maybe I just left that as culinary.
[55:34] » Well, there are some people growing some
stuff, but it's not the kind you
[55:37] advertise. So we can go back to a lot of
things but and
[55:45] » everything is interconnected.
It is because you have your average
[55:48] coming into Baker City,
>> right?
[55:50] » And they bring, you know, you look at
the Thomas sale, you look at Allens, you
[55:55] look at Carol's, you look at a lot of
these people that have the sales,
[55:58] they're bringing people in
and where are they staying? They're
[56:01] staying in Baker.
>> I think what I want to reiterate is
[56:03] we're we're trying to
start, you know, ways of marketing and
[56:09] and using firms that are in Boisee, in
Portland, in Seattle. And so we're not
[56:16] just going to market Baker City, we're
also going to market the county events
[56:19] through those me. That's what the
cooperative marketing is. So
[56:25] » now you have more marketing going for
the entire area. So I don't know why you
[56:30] would be opposed to that because it's
going to it's going to benefit the
[56:34] county as well as the city when we're
doing these things.
[56:37] » Well, it's still in there. 20 20,000 for
the collaborative.
[56:42] So the
[56:47] the big large number on this with
tourism related facility I
[56:55] not terribly interested. I I do want to
get you guys set up to continue on
[57:00] because this is a lousy time of year to
be trying to make this transition.
[57:05] » Yeah. But we've already funded
a lot of large items, large large ticket
[57:12] items in the city. But as far as So I
mean
[57:18] for, you know, for my money, I'd be
[57:24] I'd be interested in and I I don't know.
I I mean, I know you guys worked on the
[57:28] Port Plaza a lot, but
>> but it you need to leave that up to TLTC
[57:33] right now because it does not fit. But
I'm not
[57:36] » with the with the funding. But without
that,
[57:38] » I'm not and and you guys have worked
really hard on the court plaza, but I'm
[57:43] not terribly interested in it because
we've funded so many big items with the
[57:48] golf course and and in Geyser Pullman.
But, you know, and so I mean, if we pull
[57:56] out 20,000 in the East West Shrine and
the 1A tournament and and the tourism
[58:04] related facilities and bring it down to
47 uh what is that?
[58:07] » 4255.
>> 425.
[58:10] » Yeah. 4255. It would get you guys set up
and started and then you can come back
[58:16] and and like I said the 10,000 for East
West Shrine that you're good to go on
[58:22] that.
>> Yeah, that's going to go directly to you
[58:24] guys.
>> We've already done the 1A tournament. So
[58:26] that's from us
>> that's there but
[58:29] » yeah.
>> So you all are paying them directly for
[58:33] this?
>> We would we would hold that for the this
[58:36] this for 2025
>> for the 2025.
[58:40] So
my proposal would be the what is that 4
[58:45] » 425
>> 425
[58:47] » 4255
>> Yeah.
[58:48] » And can they come back then with
>> it's up to them.
[58:52] » Yeah. Well, yeah.
>> They'd have to go back to TTC.
[58:54] » Go back to
>> go back to
[58:55] » TLT. But they have they have to
understand they have to know is the
[58:59] commissioners is it worth their time
>> for us to do that for you to do that or
[59:05] you know they're just going to go
through the numbers and then you come
[59:07] back and and and
we say no.
[59:09] » I would look at it like you normally
look at a request for tourism related
[59:13] facilities. What are the facilities and
what are the projects?
[59:16] » All right.
>> Not just
[59:19] » but as far as getting you set up
to operate I'm okay with it. I'm
[59:25] tourism related facility out.
[59:30] » Is that a motion?
>> He can't make a motion.
[59:33] » I can only make I Robert's rule says I
can't, but I'd rather have one of the
[59:38] other.
>> Um I'd like to make a motion to approve
[59:42] um the TLT request for 425,500.
um with the caveat that the city goes
[59:52] back to TLT to define the tourism
related facilities.
[59:56] » That's the 100,000 in addition to the
>> in addition to the first
[1:00:03] » I'll second
[1:00:08] [Music]
any more any further discussion
[1:00:13] saying none. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:00:15] » I. Motion carries.
>> Appreciate the support. Thank you.
[1:00:18] » All right.
Would you like to discuss that today?
[1:00:22] Would you like us?
>> No, that's up to the TLTC.
[1:00:25] » Um
I don't I don't have
[1:00:30] » Yeah. And I don't have
>> I don't have the emails or the
[1:00:34] information on the design or the oral.
>> Well, it doesn't matter. It's It has to
[1:00:41] go back to
a point of order. Did you Did you vote?
[1:00:46] on that.
>> Yes.
[1:00:48] » Okay.
[1:00:54] » All right. Um, next we want to do the
What do we got? Cameras.
[1:00:59] » Yes.
>> Which one?
[1:01:02] » The cameras. CLTC recommended the
cameras for uh Hulcom.
[1:01:09] » It was It was right with the other with
the city. It was like
[1:01:12] » I know. I keep losing it, too.
Yeah, it was pinned with it.
[1:01:28] » Well, everybody just jump all in at
once.
[1:01:30] » I thought Tyler was gonna maybe So, the
TLT approved it. It's cameras.
[1:01:36] » Well, I I cameras for um Hulcom
specific. It is Huitt and Hulkcom. Did
[1:01:42] you put any out at the um
>> we don't have infrastructure yet?
[1:01:50] » Okay. So, this is just for those out
there.
[1:01:51] » This is just for that because there is
none on Hulcom. There is a few at Huitt
[1:01:55] right now, but um
>> definitely the ones that were put up at
[1:01:59] Huitt cut down on the
>> work with the ones that are already
[1:02:03] there.
>> Oh, yeah.
[1:02:06] » Yep. all the um
did they not give the
[1:02:14] Oh, I thought that the uh
information was there. Oh, there it is.
[1:02:20] » Yeah. Yes. Okay.
>> Mine went just Oh, there it is. Okay.
[1:02:25] Yeah. Just showing um the
>> talking to me about it for a year and a
[1:02:29] half.
>> She's been she she's been trying for a
[1:02:32] long time. It's not
>> I've got it. I've got it envisioned in
[1:02:36] my mind.
>> We've got there Idaho power just
[1:02:38] invested a whole bunch of money down
there and I just think that we need to
[1:02:41] » and with the office being over at Hwitt
Hulk and there's not a presence over
[1:02:46] there a lot of the time there'll be a
monitor in the office.
[1:02:51] » Yeah. Yeah. Um
I move to approve the um the request for
[1:02:58] um the cameras for Huitt Park.
>> Second.
[1:03:03] Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?
[1:03:07] Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:03:09] » I. Motion carries.
>> Point of order. Does she?
[1:03:13] » Yeah. What did you
>> Did I say I?
[1:03:16] » I don't know. I She says I
>> So motion carries unanimously.
[1:03:21] Jessica,
[1:03:25] » we're driving you crazy on these chaos.
[1:03:31] » I said no, actually. Not May.
>> May.
[1:03:35] » Yes.
>> Hello again.
[1:03:39] » Hello.
>> Not sick this time.
[1:03:41] » Good.
>> That was a long bow.
[1:03:44] » Every month.
>> Every Yeah.
[1:03:47] » Okay. So, um I did take this information
back to the CLT and um I submitted a
[1:03:55] bunch of uh quotes for you guys. Sorry
that one was late last night or this
[1:04:03] morning. I'm not sure when you got it.
Um
[1:04:06] » yesterday.
>> So the committee did reapprove for
[1:04:10] natural structures
um for the three kiosks. Um so the price
[1:04:15] has gone up just a little bit from the
last time he quoted us. It's been over
[1:04:21] 30 days since he quoted us last. So um
it looks like for the three would be
[1:04:27] 29,6235
[1:04:31] down at the bottom of this sheet.
>> Staff report.
[1:04:37] Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:04:38] » So in talking so we were looking at
Sumpter Unity and Huntington.
[1:04:42] » Correct.
>> Okay. So do we have where we're going to
[1:04:45] put those?
>> I am working with Linda. She is out
[1:04:48] measuring. She was out measuring
yesterday. I have repeatedly reached out
[1:04:53] to Unity and Huntington and have not
heard back. So, I'm continually doing
[1:04:58] that. Um, if you have a better contact
of who I could reach out to you,
[1:05:04] » both of the mayors and their reporters.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:08] » Yeah, that would be the people.
>> That's what I thought. So, um
[1:05:13] I don't know. Maybe I'll just give them
a call instead of uh emailing seeing if
[1:05:18] they got my email. So,
>> so you have one confirmed replacement um
[1:05:23] » for Sumpter
>> for Sumpter. So, it's probably a cost
[1:05:27] saving for you if you did three compared
to Or is would Natural Structures be
[1:05:33] would they give you the same price for
one?
[1:05:36] » It is by price. Yeah. So, it's like
9,000
[1:05:41] six. I don't have I'm not good at math.
So, it's like 9,6
[1:05:47] and something for each one.
>> Okay. So they're not giving you a a
[1:05:50] quantity discount of three that you'd
miss out on or whatever.
[1:05:54] » So you So you could get this.
>> I could just get one. Correct. Yes.
[1:05:58] » Well, probably better do that because if
you can't
[1:06:01] » I'm just having a really hard time
paying three times the price
[1:06:05] » if I just I can't in this economy and
with our budgets and things like that. I
[1:06:10] we just went through this whole budget
thing. I just I can't support that. I
[1:06:14] know we want to do local, but not for
three times the price.
[1:06:18] Well, and they're not
>> comparable. Yeah.
[1:06:23] » In material in the material.
>> But these guys, they put them up all the
[1:06:27] time. You know, the wood, you have wood
out of the chamber, right?
[1:06:31] » And it's been there for how many years?
>> Long time.
[1:06:34] » Long time. And the one that's the one
that has all the services, you know, um
[1:06:39] the Rotary Alliance, it's been there for
how many years? Long time. And it's
[1:06:42] wood.
>> I'm just not sure that it's worth it.
[1:06:45] You know, the one in the reservoir is
wood. It's not being used much because
[1:06:49] but there is one there already.
>> But it's wood. And so why are we
[1:06:54] spending three times as much for
nonwood? That's just my concern.
[1:06:59] » I And I got to thinking, we purchased
the wigwam. We need interpretive work up
[1:07:05] there.
>> Would any of these outfits if instead of
[1:07:09] ordering three, if we're ordering six?
>> But we're not ready at all. There's a
[1:07:14] lot of history to gather. That's going
to be a year or two out at least.
[1:07:18] » Well, and there is information panels
out there already.
[1:07:22] » Not not available.
>> Okay.
[1:07:24] » But but they're general
[1:07:29] side.
>> I mean, they're just building the
[1:07:33] structure and then the information goes
in secondary, right?
[1:07:36] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:07:38] » You would need to um hire someone to
install it. So, this does not include
[1:07:44] installation prices.
>> It does not.
[1:07:49] » So, if we wanted to hold off at the end,
I The only thing with that is the prices
[1:07:53] keep coming up on stuff, but
>> Well, then we have the budget right now.
[1:07:57] That's what I
>> You could go back to TLT and request.
[1:08:02] » Well, you could get the quotes for six.
Well, if he gets the Okay.
[1:08:06] » No, we don't want we don't want this
type down there. We're using some of the
[1:08:10] old metal and stuff like that for the
kiosk down there. There's a plan for the
[1:08:13] w for the wigwam. It doesn't include any
of that stuff in here. It's way more
[1:08:17] simplified.
The the way finding is already there
[1:08:22] next to the wigwam at our current um
Hell's Canyon Scenic Byway. All of that
[1:08:27] information is in the works right now
from Hell's Canyon Chamber to be updated
[1:08:30] down there. Um any of the wavefinding
and things like that through the Wigwam
[1:08:35] area is I literally a couple years out.
I mean, literally. And we're and like I
[1:08:40] say, we're reusing metal pieces, old
grates and things like that for like the
[1:08:45] upright, the posts and different things.
So, it's going to be very very low cost.
[1:08:50] It's not and and it's nothing that she
could she consider in her budget now or
[1:08:55] any any time
>> or taking it, you know, using the budget
[1:08:58] towards anything like that.
>> So, I think the only thing to consider
[1:09:02] here is the actual, you know, whether
she gets one or three. one would make
[1:09:08] sense just because of the lack of
communication with the other two um
[1:09:13] cities which is unfortunate.
>> It is. Yeah. They're kind of the under
[1:09:20] » Well, those are the two that that
everybody has felt that they needed
[1:09:25] assistance the most,
>> right?
[1:09:28] » So,
>> I mean, it'll be good for some sure, but
[1:09:32] they've got,
>> you know, two of the biggest tourism
[1:09:35] pools in the county. So,
I guess because they're faster on
[1:09:39] jumping.
>> They do. Unity has such opportunity,
[1:09:42] » right?
>> For the veil to John Bay.
[1:09:46] » It's it's it's huge.
So,
[1:09:52] » and this is like this is the one that
it's a community resour looks just like
[1:09:56] that.
>> And that wasn't that's not Baker County
[1:09:58] though.
>> No, it's
[1:10:01] BLM.
or it's even state parks because that is
[1:10:05] a state park actually
>> but I'm just saying and it's been there
[1:10:08] for a long time
>> and Jeffrey was for when Jeffrey was
[1:10:11] with the weed department he was looking
at that and putting up information um
[1:10:15] and talked to Oregon parks about it at
that time. So yeah, that one is kind of
[1:10:19] strange. It's like forgotten.
>> Is that the one from Wilderness Graphics
[1:10:23] that you were just showing? That one's
metal, too. I think
[1:10:26] » this quote's good for 30 days, right?
>> Yes.
[1:10:31] Oh, that's metal. Okay.
>> Quote is good for 30 days from May.
[1:10:34] » Okay. So, the difference between
Wilderness Graphics, I'm going to go
[1:10:37] back to Natural Structures. I apologize.
I thought that this one was wood as
[1:10:40] well. Um,
>> they're close in price.
[1:10:43] » No, they're not. That's half.
Wilderness is 5,000.
[1:10:48] » Thought it was nine.
>> Oh, shipping and handling. You're right.
[1:10:52] Sorry, I missed the shipping handling.
>> Bring it back on the 22nd.
[1:10:56] » Well, no, I No, because she she just
clarified that the that that one is is
[1:11:01] really close and they're the same.
There's not a huge discrepancy in price
[1:11:05] on one um
between the wilderness and the natural
[1:11:10] structures other than
natural structure more um
[1:11:16] » Okay. So, the Kirby built one is the one
that was wooden.
[1:11:19] » Yeah. And
>> is the wilderness one two-sided like the
[1:11:27] structure?
>> Yes.
[1:11:28] » Okay.
So yeah, really close uh and and uh with
[1:11:32] our local
manufacturer.
[1:11:36] » Whichever one you go with, if you can do
the one, we could do that today unless
[1:11:41] they say no, that was
>> I don't see why not because Sumpter is
[1:11:44] making plans and um communicating and
everything. I don't see why we couldn't
[1:11:48] approve one today. We could only thing
I'm saying is if if for some reason it
[1:11:52] was that price was for the three then we
have to
[1:11:57] » No, it doesn't stated
>> right there's any discount for free.
[1:12:01] » So this one is 29 $2,800. The curvy one
>> it's $2,800 that include it does include
[1:12:08] shipping
[1:12:11] » and doublesided and and I could see that
because it's um it offers is that
[1:12:16] doublesided?
>> Yep. So that would offer two spaces
[1:12:20] instead of four
like natural structures is if you had um
[1:12:27] » where this is four panels,
>> two panels double-sided and then the
[1:12:35] belt is one panel double-sided. So she's
just going for four panels double-sided.
[1:12:45] different.
>> It's not the same.
[1:12:47] » So many papers.
>> I know there's a lot to it
[1:12:51] » when you look at this one. And then this
one has room for brushes, things like
[1:12:54] that where this one, the natural
structure does not.
[1:12:57] » Correct. The natural structured one does
not have room for brushes.
[1:13:01] » Yep. And and actually I think that's an
advantage because you see those
[1:13:06] brochures
fold and
[1:13:09] » tossed around or just people do it on
purpose. have seen it at the way sides
[1:13:14] like that. If you have loose paper, I
see this one is, you know, situated a
[1:13:19] zoo with the zoo papers in it. I mean,
that's but I wouldn't I wouldn't put
[1:13:24] loose papers on the kiosk.
[1:13:29] » Well, I think um reaching out to Unity
and Huntington again. Yeah.
[1:13:35] » Um
>> you can always come bring it back for
[1:13:37] the other two if we could one.
>> Absolutely.
[1:13:40] » If I can. get them to
>> to reach out
[1:13:44] » any communication.
>> Now, I would
[1:13:49] if you do go for one, I would need to
get a new one from Chad that just says
[1:13:54] one and the price
a new quote because I don't think you'd
[1:14:00] want to sign one that says for three if
you're
[1:14:07] » so
[1:14:11] have a hard time spending $9,000 on it.
>> What's that?
[1:14:13] » I'm having a hard time spending $9,000
on it.
[1:14:17] » Just
>> Yeah. And and it's just not comparable
[1:14:20] with that rebuilt
>> in size and everything else
[1:14:26] it shows have.
[1:14:31] Well, I'll make a motion to approve one
uh kiosk for uh Trouble Baker County. um
[1:14:41] through natural structures um but I
don't have that total number in front of
[1:14:49] me. Let me see for total cost. Let me
look at it really quick.
[1:14:55] I'm not
[1:14:58] so
[1:15:08] sorry
29062.35
[1:15:16] for the amount of $9,68745.
[1:15:20] 5.
[1:15:26] » What was the amount?
>> $9,68745
[1:15:30] cents for one kiosk
for something.
[1:15:38] » Okay. All right.
>> Then I'll I'll second.
[1:15:44] » Any further discussion?
[1:15:48] None. All in favor say I.
>> I. I legendary
[1:15:51] » abstain
>> and one extension.
[1:15:54] » So I will reach out to Chad and get a
quote that has one and he would need
[1:15:59] your signature on this quote.
>> Yeah.
[1:16:02] » Okay. So I will bring that back out in
session
[1:16:05] » on the um if you want it signed out of
session then we'll have to do that.
[1:16:10] Otherwise on the 21st
>> if it's for this amount I should be fine
[1:16:17] to sign it. Oh,
>> if it's something changes,
[1:16:20] » then we'll have to just do it all again
on the 22nd.
[1:16:22] » Okay. 21st.
[1:16:26] » Is that right?
>> 7* 3. Today's the 7th.
[1:16:28] » Okay.
>> And then I have one more question. Um,
[1:16:34] so with the money that you just approved
for Baker City, is that going to be
[1:16:39] coming out of 2425 budget or 2526
budget? No, it it's gonna come out of
[1:16:46] the current
>> this. Okay. Oh, yeah, it has.
[1:16:49] » Yes, it has to because that's a deadline
of June 30th.
[1:16:52] » Okay. So, the reason I asked is because
I'm pretty sure we're already approved
[1:16:57] my budget once again.
>> Yeah, you're going to have to go back to
[1:16:59] TLTC with your budget again. I mean,
well, no, you got it for 25. Yeah,
[1:17:07] right.
In 256, you included not being part of
[1:17:10] that, right?
>> Correct. I didn't put any extra money
[1:17:14] than what we needed
and the 10,
[1:17:17] » right? That's why I was asking because I
was like, okay, so we need that lump sum
[1:17:21] in the budget to be able to give it out.
>> It'll come out of this year's and then
[1:17:25] so yes, ne 2526 what you had have now as
the latest
[1:17:31] » should be. Okay.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:33] » Okay.
>> Just the balance is going to change
[1:17:36] then.
>> Sure.
[1:17:38] » So, but
>> which is fine. It shouldn't affect what
[1:17:41] we we have in there.
>> Right. Right. It's a keeper of all.
[1:17:47] » Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
[1:17:53] » All right. EDC word property weed
control bid approval.
[1:18:04] » Did you see the email that come in?
>> Okay. I was texting. He never told him
[1:18:10] to send it to you guys.
>> Oh, okay. Okay. He did not have uh
[1:18:15] Commissioner Caseburg's email. It's from
St. Francis.
[1:18:20] » Um
[1:18:23] » I talked about that at the end.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[1:18:29] I'll forward it to you.
See? Wait. Sorry. Go.
[1:18:37] Go ahead. I'm sorry.
>> So, um
[1:18:41] the amazing thing is that Jesse did some
great work when she presented to us um
[1:18:47] the EDC about the weeding and needs that
are out there on the county property
[1:18:52] down which is for the board and she came
up with a bunch of great ideas and she
[1:18:57] had a bunch of great you know bids she
got in estimates. um we felt we had
[1:19:02] originally budgeted and that'll get to
the budget get there 6,000 for covering
[1:19:06] that and she was closer to over 10 less
than 12. She came up some amazing very
[1:19:12] well presented ideas and great
information on what to do and we talked
[1:19:16] to her also about what if we planted
some other crops on there and the other
[1:19:20] thing so she had some people approach
her about that and she was going to get
[1:19:23] some more information and I said work up
a report so we can look at it and get it
[1:19:27] to you guys so you guys could all see as
well. So be like a dryland crop this
[1:19:30] fall.
>> Yeah. Or you know as long as they need
[1:19:34] whatever makes sense or originally when
we talked to the wards we've given them
[1:19:38] the option of producing on there and
that we would be respectful of them
[1:19:41] whenever they you know we wanted to do
something we allow them to take crops to
[1:19:45] market. So if they had something that
didn't happen till the fall. So we
[1:19:48] probably have to figure out some kind of
agreement on the same structure which we
[1:19:52] already have written up if we did an
agreement with somebody else to produce
[1:19:55] on that of the kind of the same
structure. So if you have something
[1:19:59] we're not going to expect you to put a
lot of cost to the you know expense out
[1:20:02] there will allow you to take it to
market then we'll proceed if we're going
[1:20:05] to do anything else in the property.
>> Okay.
[1:20:08] » She's going to that's pending coming up.
So this I sent to you guys already which
[1:20:12] she had given to us kind of information
about the bid and estimate
[1:20:15] » and so from the information she gave us
we adjusted um our budget for that. We
[1:20:21] already had you know 6,000 from the last
budget to cover things and I believe
[1:20:24] there'll be one spring that will come
out of that. Is that correct?
[1:20:28] » Yes.
>> And then
[1:20:29] » if it's built by June 30th,
>> right? And then we did
[1:20:32] » the next year's budget. We put in
12,000.
[1:20:35] » Okay.
>> To cover everything she projected
[1:20:38] knowing that she's going to come up with
a different plan for the crops and other
[1:20:42] things because if there's a crop in
there, we're not going to be spraying
[1:20:45] it. We're not going to be weeding it be
doing that. Somebody else will be taking
[1:20:48] care of it.
>> So, I thought that was a phenomenal idea
[1:20:51] and that would be a part of the the
budget that we can do that. So, any
[1:20:55] questions on just that part? So is so
what you included is this just for this
[1:21:01] spring?
>> No,
[1:21:02] » this is for going next.
>> Correct.
[1:21:04] » Okay.
>> Yes.
[1:21:05] » Knowing that part of that, you know, we
also we already recommended and
[1:21:10] budgeted, you know, 6,000,
>> but he hasn't done it yet. Correct.
[1:21:13] » Correct.
>> Okay.
[1:21:14] » And that so that's why she has the
schedule in here of the time frame
[1:21:17] » because it covers two budget years.
>> Okay.
[1:21:23] » Okay.
Is there any questions on this plan?
[1:21:30] » Well, so EDC voted and approved to
recommend,
[1:21:35] you know, for this plan to move forward
as is, knowing that we're seeking, you
[1:21:39] know, further updates and reports from
Gussy. Yes, she did. Okay.
[1:21:48] » Do we need a motion then to approve
that?
[1:21:52] » Yes. Um, I'll move to approve JD Hill
Farms
[1:21:58] um
to do um reabatement
[1:22:03] um and weed mowing at the word property
on
[1:22:08] » Oh,
>> okay. Uh I'll second.
[1:22:12] » Have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?
[1:22:17] » Say none. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:22:20] » I.
I
[1:22:22] » I motion carries.
>> You didn't hear me because we were
[1:22:26] talking at the same time.
>> Okay. And then that takes us out of
[1:22:30] contract review, but he still has more.
>> So,
[1:22:33] » um
on the
[1:22:36] » Yeah. So, yeah, we can close contract
review board and
[1:22:41] be I guess kind of an update. So, um, we
made, you know, multiple revisions and
[1:22:47] this is the final, uh, budget
presentations. I mean, I think I sent
[1:22:51] you guys copies of this already, but
I'll just kind of, you know, go over a
[1:22:54] summary of, you know, kind of what we
did. The main thing is we changed, you
[1:22:59] know, the grant cycle from twice a year
to once a year. Um, and the other thing
[1:23:03] is we changed the 180 transfer to 90.
Um, we also changed the budget line that
[1:23:08] was 6,000 to 12,000. And therefore it
shows on both of these in both places
[1:23:13] and the adjustments would be made
accordly and I worked with Christina
[1:23:17] Cook on this and so to make sure that
everything was fair for proposal for you
[1:23:21] guys to review and get approved by the
budget boards and EDC voted and approved
[1:23:26] these to recommended to you guys.
>> Okay,
[1:23:30] » any questions on any of that? So because
of that changes, we had to make changes
[1:23:36] to several other documents that I had
sent to you guys as well that you know
[1:23:40] will affect the grant application. So
the first document is basically just the
[1:23:46] first page of the grant application and
the only changes are going to be in
[1:23:49] yellow and so I just wanted you guys to
see that because we had to change the
[1:23:53] wording on this was not an easy thing to
do to figure out the wording. Um and I
[1:23:59] just wanted to make sure they covered
it, you know, appropriately.
[1:24:02] and met going forward with what we're
going to do with the changes in the IG
[1:24:06] being withdrawn.
>> Looks good.
[1:24:13] » Because they will have their own
economic development that they're
[1:24:16] offering to city and not outside the
city limits.
[1:24:20] » Correct.
>> Yeah.
[1:24:21] » City stated that they want to do their
own economic development. So
[1:24:25] » yeah,
>> they committed that they budgeted for
[1:24:29] development officer in it. So they call
it
[1:24:32] » that's not in that request and that's
not up to us. That's in their budget.
[1:24:36] And um in at the city council meeting,
they also said they were going to put
[1:24:40] what we put the 25% that we put to EDC.
>> They said that they're uh during the
[1:24:46] city council meeting was that they're
putting 30,000 into the fire department
[1:24:49] and the ambulance. So I don't know where
they're getting the funding for their
[1:24:52] EDC.
>> I don't know.
[1:24:53] » Or for um that that person, but it's up
to them. It's not us.
[1:24:58] » If they take Yeah. I mean it's yeah it's
none of our business but if they
[1:25:04] » well then they can take some of their
other money so
[1:25:07] » they can't they can't take out of the 70
>> but I meant
[1:25:11] » right
>> oh yeah if if they choose to spend it on
[1:25:15] the that 25 and well they said 30%.
>> So and and they may have left that out.
[1:25:20] I thought I can't think of the bill
number. I thought the the TLT bill was
[1:25:25] dead but apparently there's been a two
amendment.
[1:25:28] » They're trying. I hope it dies. Uh
they're trying to push it through, but
[1:25:31] I'm not going to testify on behalf of
that. I'm totally against it. That bill
[1:25:38] » 3556.
>> Yeah.
[1:25:40] » Yeah. It's got a new bill, doesn't it?
>> It's now the
[1:25:45] » It gain a new life. It gain a new life.
>> 3962-2.
[1:25:51] » So, it got a -2 amendment somewhere in
committee after it died, but
[1:25:57] » yeah, it is. It is now um Paul
Commissioner Anders from Union County
[1:26:03] just sent it and it says that um
it's now HB
[1:26:11] where is it HB 3962
[1:26:16] for TLT change.
>> So they so if there was
[1:26:22] impacted services then you'd be able to
pull out of the seven. So,
[1:26:26] » but it doesn't matter because it's not
even through house. That's not even a
[1:26:29] conversation now. So, it's um but in but
yes, I like this because they're
[1:26:35] supposed to they want to focus on Baker
City limits only and we have to focus on
[1:26:40] everything beyond that. So,
>> that's where the funding comes from. So,
[1:26:44] that's
>> on page two. Are you just taking that
[1:26:46] line completely out?
>> He's not on that. So, I'll get to that
[1:26:50] in a second. That's the next one. So
this is just the uh
[1:26:54] » Oh, you're on
just this.
[1:26:57] » Yeah.
[1:27:01] » Yeah. No, I looked that over. That's
fine.
[1:27:05] » Okay.
>> And then if you want to go to the
[1:27:07] solicitation guide page,
this one.
[1:27:12] » Yep.
>> Try to change the wording on that as
[1:27:14] well.
>> It's just highlighted in yellow to
[1:27:17] change that.
>> Yep. Baker County and Baker outside
[1:27:20] Baker Big City,
>> right?
[1:27:22] » Yep.
>> And then down below, I changed the
[1:27:23] wording to show that it was just annual.
>> And that's the change,
[1:27:31] » right, for those the the grant
applications annually.
[1:27:34] » And so to date, we've had about60
businesses apply. We have about 60 in
[1:27:39] this cycle. Um
20 of them in this last round are
[1:27:46] outside the city limits. Um the rest are
inside the city limits.
[1:27:50] » Um 50% of those have made it to the
second round. And so the majority of
[1:27:56] those are still in the city limits. The
majority aren't.
[1:27:59] » So future ones it'll be clarified at
just outside city. So the total
[1:28:03] » so the ones that are going right now are
>> Yeah. It's everything because it's still
[1:28:06] a budget year
>> because it's convoluted. So we're
[1:28:08] honoring what it said in the
application, what it said guide and the
[1:28:13] direction and you know where the funds
came from. So this is just going to
[1:28:17] affect starting this fall.
>> Yeah. The people that are already
[1:28:22] through the first cycle, it's not fair
to take it out on them,
[1:28:25] » right?
>> Well, no, it's still within our budget
[1:28:27] year. No matter what, fairness or not,
it's still within our budget year and
[1:28:31] it'll be distributed. I mean, when's the
deadline? When are you going to finish?
[1:28:35] » So there is no deadline for ordering. So
we're in the process of going through
[1:28:39] usually takes a couple months because we
have to go through we have meetings to
[1:28:42] set up with all the businesses still we
have we've already gotten all their
[1:28:45] receipts or documents their profit loss
their tax statements and if they didn't
[1:28:49] submit any of that and they're not ready
to business own they don't move on to
[1:28:52] the next phase.
>> Sure. But if you do are you going to do
[1:28:54] that by July one?
>> We're going to try to have everything
[1:28:57] done to you recommendations so we can
have checks out before the end of the
[1:29:03] year.
>> Okay. Fiscal year.
[1:29:05] » Fiscal year. Apologize. Okay.
>> I mean, did you
[1:29:09] » It would be cleaner that way if you
could.
[1:29:11] » Yeah. So, we're really
>> nice if we could have the checks issued
[1:29:14] by the
>> That's what you just said.
[1:29:18] It would be cleaner.
>> First week in June. Would be great to be
[1:29:21] able to
>> Right. And that's my goal. The checks
[1:29:24] issues. And when the checks get issues,
then the rest of my responsibility falls
[1:29:27] in. I make them go out get actual
receipts, give me copies of receipts of
[1:29:30] what they purchased. Then I make them do
a final letter saying how how they used
[1:29:34] it for the business, how they helped
their business. And that's all part of
[1:29:36] the records that I submit to you guys.
You guys have later on, right?
[1:29:40] » That's part of our due diligence because
they don't do that, they're ineligible
[1:29:43] to ever apply again.
>> Ever. Yeah.
[1:29:46] » Ever.
>> It's written in there. So, so what you
[1:29:50] were getting to, Shane, was in the
bylaws portion of it, we had to make
[1:29:55] some changes. Um, and on the second page
of the bylaws, page 204 in yellow, um, I
[1:30:03] had to restructure this because, um, the
original ORS that we were created out of
[1:30:10] identifies that we have nine, you know,
members. And so when we changed it,
[1:30:15] obviously there were county only. We had
to change to one exeicio instead of two.
[1:30:19] And because of that, that means I had to
add in an al alternate position without
[1:30:24] changing the rest of the verbiage of
seven voting members. So by doing that,
[1:30:28] we're still meeting the same or
structure of having nine. We have one
[1:30:32] exeicio that doesn't do that. And I also
changed the wording to a county
[1:30:36] commissioner. So whoever you guys choose
to have, you know, in that
[1:30:40] » so we can rotate it if we want to and
whatever every year just like our
[1:30:44] committees that we normally
>> it is up to you guys. It's a so you guys
[1:30:49] and I intentionally wrote that and so
you guys would have that ability to do
[1:30:53] that
>> and then you know the alternate and we
[1:30:55] just clarified some things that they
could vote if somebody else isn't
[1:30:58] present and then if somebody withdrew
then they could be at our recommendation
[1:31:02] to you guys then moved into a permanent
one.
[1:31:06] » So all of so the seven
and the alternate need to be outside of
[1:31:11] Baker city limits. We have not addressed
that yet and I didn't think we should
[1:31:16] we'll address it at a different point
from direction from you guys what that
[1:31:19] looks like and so currently we only have
one person who kind of owns a business
[1:31:25] inside the city limits and we have Jeff
which has the whole county we have Leah
[1:31:28] which does all the vote techch and
everything and so and Doug you know he's
[1:31:32] a retired person so he has no specific
skin of the game anywhere Tyler's the
[1:31:36] only one that is tied to a business I
believe Tyler brings the most value to
[1:31:40] the table because he's been through TLT
since initiation. He knows more about it
[1:31:44] than anybody else.
>> I imagine him going to the city TLT.
[1:31:49] » He sits now on the TLT because he's the
representative from EDC,
[1:31:54] » right?
>> And so we should address that in the
[1:31:58] future. I didn't want to cover it at
this point. I just want to fix the bases
[1:32:01] that we had moving. Okay.
>> And come back with a recommendation in
[1:32:05] the future. And I've already tc has
already talked about establishing some
[1:32:11] sort of criteria. So I've been at
meetings with a lot of other cities.
[1:32:17] I can't believe she didn't return that
email to you know Kean's got back. She's
[1:32:21] usually pretty good to Siobhan. Yeah.
>> So um you know talked to them. We're in
[1:32:26] the mayor's meeting. We said all of you
guys need to have representation.
[1:32:29] Correct. And so a couple weeks ago,
Chris from the chamber and I were down
[1:32:33] in halfway talked to about 20 some
different businesses and we said, you
[1:32:36] know, who's going to step up? One of you
guys needs to go apply at the county
[1:32:40] now.
>> One of you guys needs to apply, you
[1:32:43] know, for EDC. You guys need to step up.
We have opening step if you guys want
[1:32:47] representation.
>> Only Yeah. And then if I can address
[1:32:51] that kind of caveat, I have been working
on the ordinance for TLT. That's what
[1:32:56] » and I do have I am getting close to
getting you a proof. I want to have that
[1:33:01] by uh our next meeting. Okay. So, um
that you have that but in
[1:33:07] this line of EDC and then TLT um I kept
it at
[1:33:14] um the the same the same amount of of
people but the but the way that it that
[1:33:21] it it sits that the the members sit the
committee members sit will be um what
[1:33:26] what I'm um offering is like somebody
from hospitality instead of attraction
[1:33:33] um and a lodging partner and and all of
that. So, and halfway sumpter unity at
[1:33:38] large, you know, and and so when this I
feel like when that is formed, when that
[1:33:44] is secured on who's going to be sitting
on that, then we can look towards who's
[1:33:48] sitting on EDC.
>> So, I don't know. Did you know that EDC
[1:33:53] is created out of the TLT ordinance?
It's not a Okay. Yeah. A lot of the
[1:33:59] times they could be a standalone, but in
this case it isn't. So yeah, because
[1:34:03] that's where the funding comes from.
>> Right.
[1:34:04] » Right. And and that's where your money
>> and I made sure that nine members for
[1:34:09] EDC was kept in this uh through the
change. So that won't change in this
[1:34:14] ordinance for EDC to still have nine.
>> So okay,
[1:34:17] » this would be part of the conversation
you alluding to. I always thought that
[1:34:21] if we could put in there simple wording
because I remember in the meeting with
[1:34:24] all the mayors, we talked about the
IGAS. Um, we could say, you know, city
[1:34:29] representation with the current IGA.
>> So they
[1:34:33] » Yes. Because
>> they don't have an intergovernment
[1:34:34] agreement with the county. To me, it
doesn't make much sense to have
[1:34:38] representation,
>> right?
[1:34:40] » And
>> if there's no agreement.
[1:34:42] » Yeah. And that's another uh area in
there that specifies the IG with the
[1:34:47] other three cities that are
participating in the TLT program. And
[1:34:51] then so once the ordinance goes then the
IGA will follow by the end of June with
[1:34:57] those three cities.
>> So EDC has made recommendations that you
[1:35:01] approve the 218 and 318 budgets.
>> We can't do that.
[1:35:05] » We can't do that.
>> Whoever the budget is during budget at
[1:35:09] the end of May
>> and she you should have received an
[1:35:10] email from Christina saying look at
this. Is this correct? And then if you
[1:35:14] want to submit a letter to do that as
well.
[1:35:18] » So so we we did that part through
Christina. Okay, then we because we
[1:35:21] can't look at this at this point. It has
to go to budget committee.
[1:35:23] » Don't look. Don't look.
>> But the three documents that we're
[1:35:27] recommending EDC voted I've seen with
this application solicitation and the
[1:35:33] updates through the bylaws just the
areas highlighted in yellow.
[1:35:36] » Yeah.
>> And I have seen the budget.
[1:35:39] » Everybody's seen the budget.
>> I mean it's good to look at it. We can't
[1:35:42] I mean we just can't we can't do
anything without
[1:35:46] » and that's we can review it say good job
but until I get three more people
[1:35:52] » just out of respect I sent everyone
copies.
[1:35:53] » Thanks.
>> Thank you. Thank you Brian. Thank you
[1:35:57] Michelle as you alluded to earlier 27
years ago when I put together the
[1:36:02] project that put that welcome to Baker
City finds out there 27 years ago.
[1:36:07] » Okay.
>> What a time reference. And they're fine.
[1:36:12] They're not melt. They're not riding in
the ground.
[1:36:15] » No.
>> But originally it was slated at a
[1:36:18] $684,000 project, which we ended up
doing for $6,482
[1:36:24] because we got everybody to donate the
thing. OC donated trucks. Um, you know,
[1:36:29] » it's a big cut. It's a big
>> Yeah. Ellson donated all the wooden
[1:36:32] beams. We had all the steel donated the
high school donate space. Kneehi donated
[1:36:37] all of the printout cut signs for it and
everything. It was an amazing community
[1:36:42] after and then when press done was with
you know materials at the time they gave
[1:36:46] us that cost all of the chains bolts
materials we used to put the signs
[1:36:51] together
>> nice
[1:36:52] » different world I'm trying to bring back
the timber so you know
[1:36:56] » so yeah if it was you know
>> time reference that's when
[1:37:01] » there we go I didn't realize it was that
long ago so um so do we need to approve
[1:37:04] the recommended by law we want to wait
until
[1:37:07] » do we want to wait till or
I would I mean I don't think that
[1:37:11] there's any rush on it um on on today
for his bylaws. I think just knowing
[1:37:16] that they're there
>> forward. Yes,
[1:37:18] » I they actually need to be approved
because currently we're publicly going
[1:37:23] to have it online for the application
for people to apply for the grant
[1:37:28] because they could apply from
>> April first Friday in April till now.
[1:37:32] Luckily,
>> we do need the grant solicitation
[1:37:34] approved.
>> So, but this is for going forward.
[1:37:38] Well, I mean
>> the thing is we have we're going to need
[1:37:40] to have it posted online at the county
site with the correct documents and the
[1:37:44] correct wording now which will precede
you know the end of the year. So, so
[1:37:51] yeah
we
[1:37:54] remove it from the county and don't have
it publicly posted and notified.
[1:38:00] » Um
>> I would wait I would wait until July
[1:38:02] one.
>> Let's wait till July is back in July.
[1:38:06] Luckily, nobody has applied. So, we're
going to just have to make sure that
[1:38:10] » just pull it until July.
>> Yeah. So, who would I ask to do that?
[1:38:15] » That'd be you, Heidi.
>> Probably Bill Belly.
[1:38:19] » Yeah.
>> But let's just I think it just be
[1:38:22] cleaner just because of
>> for the fall solicitation. Yeah. If you
[1:38:26] can if you can just hold and post it on
July. new applications will be available
[1:38:31] July 1 or whatever and we'll approve
this maybe the end of June or whatever
[1:38:35] when we know what everything looks like
>> yes then there's no confusion there's no
[1:38:39] overlapping
>> I just think it's kind of jumping the
[1:38:41] gun I just let's keep it
>> yeah
[1:38:45] that's just my thought
>> no I I agree with you I like that I like
[1:38:49] to keep everything kind
>> I'm just it's gonna muddy the water
[1:38:53] Brian I
>> if we don't do that so let's and then we
[1:38:57] can bring back the changes because we'll
have a better idea that ordinance will
[1:39:00] be done. Yes. Hopefully by then. Um then
we can have a better idea of exactly the
[1:39:04] warning you need for the inside.
[1:39:08] » So if I bring the ordinance on the 21st,
the revised which I hope to get you both
[1:39:15] a copy I don't why not before that for
you to review.
[1:39:19] » Um then we have to have two readings
correct Heidi on the ordinance and
[1:39:23] change. We have to have two readings
>> unless you want to declare it an
[1:39:28] emergency and then you would have to
read the entire thing.
[1:39:32] » Duh.
>> In order to adopt it in
[1:39:34] » you get to read it.
>> So if you want to read it read it in its
[1:39:38] entirety you can adopt it at a single
meeting.
[1:39:41] » Oh
>> it is 21st and then
[1:39:44] » this thick.
>> So
[1:39:46] » um so if we can have the first reading
on the 21st the second reading on the
[1:39:50] 4th
>> if June.
[1:39:52] » Yeah. Um, and then we can get everything
ready and in place the last June 30th.
[1:39:57] » Yeah.
>> And then you can bring your stuff back.
[1:39:59] » It doesn't June 18th.
>> Usually you do a work session if anybody
[1:40:03] had any changes, but
>> Well, I'm going to get it to you
[1:40:06] beforehand so you can review um on your
own before the 21st. And then at the
[1:40:12] 21st, can we decide are we ready to, you
know,
[1:40:16] Yeah. I mean, if it if we're scheduled a
public hearing and then we're not ready
[1:40:20] for the public hearing. a little bit.
>> So, I would just need to have it because
[1:40:24] I have to meet the posting requirements
and it's got to get in the paper.
[1:40:28] » Yeah.
>> By next week, which means I got to have
[1:40:30] it basically by tomorrow, I think, is
the deadline to get it.
[1:40:34] » And I am out next week.
>> Because then I have to post it online.
[1:40:38] Tell people where they can find a
sample.
[1:40:40] » Okay. Well, I have a draft right now.
I'm waiting on um uh one other person
[1:40:45] who's helping me from TLT who's been on
TLT forever. Um just kind of go through
[1:40:51] So, I have all of my ducks in a row on
>> it.
[1:40:55] » Um,
yeah, I suppose. Uh, so no, it's it's
[1:41:00] not going to be I didn't figure on
public hearing this month. I figured it
[1:41:03] would be public hearing on unfortunately
on our first session and our second
[1:41:08] session in June.
>> So,
[1:41:11] » well, we could still do that and then we
could still do EDC stuff bylaws on the
[1:41:16] on um on the 18th.
>> We could still do that. Yeah, because
[1:41:20] we'll have had the first hearing and
that'll be the second.
[1:41:23] » And if you felt if we felt like we
needed to do a quick work session, that
[1:41:26] would give us time enough to do it. And
if you want to do an emergency, you guys
[1:41:30] can go to the bathroom while I'm reading
it. I mean, it can be done.
[1:41:35] » We're not doing it without you. You love
reading that stuff.
[1:41:38] » Oh, well anyway
program recording it time.
[1:41:44] » That's how they do it.
>> It It will actually in Word. So
[1:41:48] » that's how they do it in uh the
legislature which is incredibly
[1:41:53] annoying.
>> Incredibly
[1:41:56] » should know say this is going to this is
a five minute reading of this
[1:42:00] » because what you guys are going to see
on the 21st or before the 21st is red
[1:42:06] line, blue line and green line because
it's gone through TLT last year with the
[1:42:12] red line through council with the blue
line and now I'm adding green line.
[1:42:17] Okay. So, it's it's a mess, but it's all
going to come together.
[1:42:21] » I was just hoping
>> So, are you going to be able to have
[1:42:23] Heidi send it to us electronically so we
can do our own little purple and
[1:42:27] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Pick a different color.
[1:42:30] » I was just hoping for another PLT
ordinance revision to go in my stack.
[1:42:35] » I really don't see this as a problem. I
I went through
[1:42:38] » after all of the revisions. I took the
latest revision from 2024 and just
[1:42:43] kicked out anything that doesn't apply
that's not going to apply after July 1st
[1:42:47] and um and then just revised anything.
Um it's really it really shouldn't be
[1:42:53] that much of a
>> It shouldn't.
[1:42:55] » There's not that
>> Could you guys just read the changes?
[1:42:58] » Nope.
>> No, read the whole thing. So you after
[1:43:02] they look at it, we'll have a better
idea on the 21st and and then if we
[1:43:05] decide that we really need to read it on
the first session in June, then we
[1:43:09] » okay,
>> we definitely
[1:43:10] » could just take turns and go roundy
round.
[1:43:14] » So for now, you just want it as a review
on the 21st. Yes. And then possibly
[1:43:20] first reading on that June 4th
definitely.
[1:43:25] Yes.
So
[1:43:27] » do I need to represent or can you
approve these as presented?
[1:43:31] Um you're going to have a change in
you will have a change in uh
[1:43:40] » in the bylaws
>> in well in the bylaws once you have the
[1:43:43] seven you're going to detail more who
could be um
[1:43:47] » so I thought we would not even try to
work with that right now. We're gonna
[1:43:51] wait to see how everything plays out and
then
[1:43:52] » because your count's alone
>> and then next year.
[1:43:54] » I was just thinking it would
>> that's the only reason I wasn't going to
[1:43:57] approve it now is we're gonna make sure
this was up.
[1:43:59] » Oh no. Because this and then what I
really want to do is kind of see what
[1:44:04] you guys came up with and then we can go
back to EC and EDC for so we can make a
[1:44:10] recommendation next year to make changes
to our bylaws according to who should be
[1:44:16] on it. And I think then you guys will
have more time to figure out what you
[1:44:20] guys did in your ordinance.
>> I wasn't trying to convolute the two at
[1:44:23] the same time.
>> I think they have to be.
[1:44:26] » Yeah. I think that if you could come
back in um June with an outline and
[1:44:35] and you could even wait and see what
that ordinance first hearing reading
[1:44:40] looks like. Um trying to match you.
>> Yeah.
[1:44:48] Is this the courthouse? This is the
courthouse.
[1:44:49] » This is the courthouse.
>> Oh, yeah. Go for that.
[1:44:58] » Uh,
[1:45:01] we're past, but did you get the
information on theformational kiosk for
[1:45:07] your
>> from Jessica?
[1:45:10] I'm sorry. From Jessica. She was she
sent you some stuff about a kiosk about
[1:45:14] placing it somewhere in Huntington.
>> Uh and she has had no communication back
[1:45:18] on it
[1:45:22] » and I don't know when she sent the
emails.
[1:45:25] » I was gone all last week so
[1:45:30] » should have been. Yeah, it's been the
whole process.
[1:45:34] » Maybe you should rephrase it. So would
you love to have a kiosk?
[1:45:37] » Yeah.
>> Where would you like
[1:45:38] » would you like to have a kiosk? And
could you please reach out to Jessica to
[1:45:42] get the details worked out?
>> How's that?
[1:45:47] » It's okay. We're We're
>> Okay. We're in the middle of a
[1:45:50] » Yeah. Just touch base with just touch
base with Jessica.
[1:45:53] » Okay.
>> Hopson Travel Baker County.
[1:45:56] » Yeah.
>> Out at the She's She's located out at
[1:45:58] the chamber uh or at the visitors
center.
[1:46:04] » She's trying to get a kiosk for you out
there and she said there's been no
[1:46:08] communication. So,
>> okay.
[1:46:11] » I see it. Thank you.
>> Okay. Well, thank you. It's good to see
[1:46:14] you.
>> Good to see you, too.
[1:46:16] » Okay. So, I'll let you know that.
[1:46:21] » So, the outside the box thing, I guess,
is the text that I got back from.
[1:46:29] And so, basically,
I tried to accelerate it because I
[1:46:33] really wanted to get some paperwork in
front of you guys today. Um, so the
[1:46:37] church has approved, you know, rewarding
and everything. They've worked directly
[1:46:42] sent it to Drew Martin to review. He's
reviewed it. He's approved everything.
[1:46:46] He's supposed to be sending you guys
directly,
[1:46:48] » okay,
>> the copy of the approved, you know,
[1:46:52] document, you know, for the purchase.
And he saw no problems in everything
[1:46:55] that is in it that he is going to be
sending to you guys.
[1:46:58] » And so their attorney then came back,
>> correct?
[1:47:01] » Withdrew. Okay.
>> Correct. So, and that's relating to this
[1:47:06] email.
>> Yes. Yeah.
[1:47:07] » Uh, so Michelle, did you Commissioner
>> Gber, did you receive the email
[1:47:14] » just now?
>> Just now. Okay.
[1:47:15] » I don't have my the
>> It's from St. Francis basically. And it
[1:47:19] says, um, the requested changes in the
attached document are acceptable and I
[1:47:23] recommend that the commissioners approve
the attach.
[1:47:25] » Oh, no, I didn't get that. All I got was
>> the attached the the attached to the
[1:47:29] agreement. I did not have Commissioner
Caseber's email address, so I just sent
[1:47:33] it to Heidi when I got it in and then I
asked Heidi to forward it to you.
[1:47:38] » Okay, here we go. I got the whole email
down below.
[1:47:40] » So, yeah. So, he requested. So that's
something that um
[1:47:45] uh red line is attached and so we'll
have to put that on uh the 21st
[1:47:53] » or is that something that we can
>> Oh, we should be able to
[1:47:57] » that we well or we can't do it now or
can we?
[1:48:00] » Oh no,
>> we can't do it now. That's what I'm
[1:48:02] saying.
>> Okay. So we will add that to the 21st
[1:48:07] session. Um
>> Yeah. and it sounds like they're fine
[1:48:12] with it. So,
>> okay.
[1:48:16] » No, we know we need time to review it
and
[1:48:18] » all of that and put it on the
>> Soon as he said to me, I said send it to
[1:48:22] you guys.
>> Yeah.
[1:48:23] » Okay. And then we're going to be seeing
something from Drew or is this it?
[1:48:27] » Uh I told Drew to send you the final
approval.
[1:48:30] » This did not come from Drew. No.
>> Yeah.
[1:48:32] » He may have forwarded you what?
>> Drew. It went to
[1:48:37] » from Drew went to Shane and Christina.
Oh, okay. So, this is from Drew, not
[1:48:43] from St. Francis.
>> Okay. Okay.
[1:48:45] » That was this morning at
>> Yeah. Okay.
[1:48:58] » Okay. So, yep. We'll just request that
that be on 21st. So, is there any other
[1:49:05] recommendations that I present to the
EDC on what you guys would like as far
[1:49:10] as wording on who would be on council?
>> Um, I will get you the preliminary
[1:49:18] um list of because I just I have my
>> old copy here, not my electronic on the
[1:49:27] who's going to be seated on TLT.
>> I will give you that list. Do you think
[1:49:31] it should be slightly different or or
near?
[1:49:35] » I think that
>> I'm asking all three.
[1:49:39] » I I think I think that you should take
the list that I that we are proposing
[1:49:44] for TLT to EDC and see how they feel
about it. I would like to hear from EDC
[1:49:49] on
>> So when's the next EDC meeting?
[1:49:52] » 20th.
>> Yeah.
[1:49:54] » Again,
once county college is over, I won't
[1:50:00] So Heidi, we requested that um
[1:50:07] the St. Francis purchase and sale
agreement
[1:50:10] um that you just sent that email to
Commissioner Caseburg that that be on
[1:50:16] our agenda for the 21st
[1:50:20] for approval of the purchase and sale
agreement EDC.
[1:50:25] And so you'll have to do a staff report.
[1:50:34] » All right.
>> Um,
[1:50:36] yeah.
[1:50:41] Yeah. I'd be interested to know to hear
what EDC who you would EDC would like to
[1:50:46] what what they see for
seats on the committee.
[1:50:51] » Yeah. And so my personal opinion was
that you know we need somebody from
[1:50:56] halfway we need somebody from some
right.
[1:50:58] » Yeah. So, and and unity or I don't know
if you need unity or not, but if you if
[1:51:04] you focus on those two cities that are
in the IG then yeah.
[1:51:09] » So, and I I do like the wording that
>> you know the the cities must have a
[1:51:15] current IG but that's I think you guys
>> and that is in this and the wording is
[1:51:21] in this and that I did have to revise
some of that wording per the those three
[1:51:26] cities. So,
>> yeah. So, and then you know it's
[1:51:31] you know and the thing I think would be
hard is you know you know getting
[1:51:35] somebody to participate on a regular
basis from those areas. So Zoom is you
[1:51:40] know approved one for anybody who is on
you can see we voted and approved for
[1:51:43] somebody to be able to present via Zoom
or via phone. So that that's an allowed
[1:51:48] way for somebody to attend and give
information.
[1:51:50] » We have a member on TLT from Sumpter now
and she attends in person. So I mean
[1:51:55] they they do
I
[1:51:59] can't remember her name right off the
top of my head. No,
[1:52:02] » but but she uh yeah, she's she's fairly
new to to TLT. So, I'm looking forward
[1:52:08] to her staying on TLT.
>> Good.
[1:52:11] » I'd like to follow you guys' direction
and what you guys decide. I'll present
[1:52:15] the agency and then have them make a
recommendation back to you guys.
[1:52:18] » Okay.
>> Even through the winter doing the Zoom
[1:52:20] link for PDC and TLP
can be done. So, It's unaccepted.
[1:52:28] » Oh yeah,
>> we all do it.
[1:52:29] » Yeah, for sure.
>> Allies do it. So
[1:52:31] » yeah,
>> we have to
[1:52:34] have
you do
[1:52:37] » if you choose to
>> and use the cameras that are available.
[1:52:43] » The last one I listened to was just like
chairs and people's voices.
[1:52:49] » There was another one that we had was
>> Yeah. The EDC made one camera
[1:52:52] » and Jeff was the only one showing up.
Yeah, Jeff was the only one at the end
[1:52:57] of the whole thing. I was like, "Okay,
there is two cameras.
[1:53:02] » You better make sure that animal."
>> Thanks for all of the work and and uh
[1:53:07] yeah, I will get you that language just
as a proposed before the 20th
[1:53:11] » um so that you can look at it and you
guys can decide.
[1:53:14] » Any other questions around here?
>> Thank you. Question on this Francis
[1:53:20] agreement. Um, well, will will you be
able to get the seller to sign first?
[1:53:24] » We can.
>> Okay. And then it looks like there's an
[1:53:27] exhibit A.
>> Yeah, that's never detached. I always
[1:53:31] hate that. I mean, attorneys always tell
me that it's, you know, it it's they
[1:53:35] know what it is, but I agree with you.
They kind of need to physically see it.
[1:53:39] » Isn't that like the physical address or
or the physical description of the
[1:53:42] property?
>> I'm not sure. I mean they refer to
[1:53:44] » that's all I was wondering is I didn't
see there it was there but nothing's
[1:53:48] listed under it so I just wasn't sure
that was
[1:53:51] » you can request that from Drew before
[1:53:55] » well because this came from Drew and
final paperwork and everything it come
[1:53:59] from Drew it's his language of exhibit
>> so
[1:54:03] » but I think it's smart with what you
said we'll get to sign it so when you
[1:54:06] guys get presented in front of you
you'll have a signed document so it'll
[1:54:10] make it easier to follow the next steps
>> yeah It's but yeah where they're the
[1:54:14] seller making sure they do want to sell
to us before
[1:54:19] » and that yeah then they're okay with the
wording and all that stuff. So that's
[1:54:21] good too. Yeah.
[1:54:25] » Thank you.
>> Thank you for all the work and time and
[1:54:29] everything on all of this.
>> We'll catch up to you sooner than later.
[1:54:32] » So I I can't wait for that to get mowed
and sprayed so that I don't get any more
[1:54:36] phone calls from the neighbor.
>> Yeah. So Gus has done an amazing job and
[1:54:40] if anybody wants to know a plan I refer
to her.
[1:54:43] » That's where I send it every time.
>> Her suggestions and ideas when she comes
[1:54:48] back with another proposal I think is is
awesome.
[1:54:51] » Yeah. Next one he's going to go to is
the school district because there's
[1:54:55] actually worse than ours.
>> She was very presentation. I I think
[1:55:00] she's doing a fantastic job.
>> He only catches me when I'm out there.
[1:55:03] So
>> coming from uh out of Newbridge
[1:55:07] yesterday, there is a property owner
that it is all white top and the the
[1:55:13] ditch runs down and through their
property and then it goes up above as
[1:55:18] you're going towards Richland and it's
all white top along that ditch because
[1:55:23] it's been carried from that. I mean it
is
[1:55:25] » everywhere
>> solid
[1:55:27] » by neighbors. Well that property
>> we do in Gessie. Yeah, she does have
[1:55:33] that. Um, and
>> I know of another couple counties that
[1:55:36] actually charge property they've
enforced.
[1:55:39] » Oh, definitely.
>> And they charge if you have white top
[1:55:41] where you have
>> any of the whatever that's on list. If
[1:55:47] you have that and you're not taking care
of it and the county has to come in and
[1:55:50] spray it, yep, you will get charged.
>> You get charged. And I think that we
[1:55:53] need to look at that because some of
especially white is just nasty.
[1:55:56] » Also have a within some of the
water.
[1:56:01] » Yes. Yes. Because you I mean you
definitely I mean yesterday everything
[1:56:04] was in bloom and man that white top was
in bloom and Russ just was looking up
[1:56:08] there and the following that ditch line
and
[1:56:11] » yeah it's no good. You know, Sweden when
we visited, I don't know how long ago,
[1:56:15] but uh they have an ordinance that if
you have trash in your yards or if you
[1:56:20] have something that's unsightly or
something that you know, they have this
[1:56:23] whole ordinance if you don't if you
don't take care of it when you're when
[1:56:27] you're notified, then that county or
city or whatever goes in, cleans it up,
[1:56:31] and then you're build.
>> There is an ordinance of the city to do
[1:56:34] that. And um they I've seen them do it a
couple of times and people screamed.
[1:56:40] » Well, they clean it up. Sweden was so
clean. I mean, we were just like, "What
[1:56:44] is going on? Everybody takes care of
everything. Every yard is pristine and
[1:56:47] everything." They said, "Oh, it's this
ordinance. You either do it or you pay
[1:56:50] » every
>> Oh, yes. That's exactly exactly.
[1:56:56] » It's just that here.
>> I'm going to call a five minute break
[1:57:00] and before we go on to the Okay.
>> thingamajig and I'll be right back. It's
[1:57:04] just that here um private property
rights
[1:57:09] stop us and I appreciate that
>> but then it makes it tough.
[1:57:15] » I was glad the way Jason wrote that
article you did a great job.
[1:57:19] » Yeah. But I and so as I'm
[2:04:08] Um,
thank you for doing that.
[2:04:11] » Out of recess. Oh, you're welcome. Well,
you don't have to thank me.
[2:04:19] » Oh, I thought you meant to call recess.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[2:04:23] » Oh, Heidi sent it. Okay.
>> All right.
[2:04:27] » Oh, what was Oh, the travel policy
review.
[2:04:30] » Okay. So, I had an email from one of the
department heads and so I started
[2:04:36] researching it and so in there, so
really what I wanted to address today
[2:04:40] was
>> anytime we have the three of us need to
[2:04:44] get reimbursed, we have to get the other
two done.
[2:04:48] » Oh, yeah.
>> But we haven't been doing that. So,
[2:04:49] we're outside of our guidelines. So,
>> I marked that, too.
[2:04:53] » So, why
>> we have to what? What?
[2:04:55] » So, if you submit a expense
reimbursement, Shane and I both have a
[2:04:59] sign.
>> Yeah. Oh, both. Not both. Okay. So,
[2:05:02] we're not following that. And so,
anyway, there's several places in here
[2:05:06] that I don't I think it just say
signature of one commissioner for
[2:05:09] reimbursement to department heads or
elected officials and drop out the part
[2:05:12] that says signature of two commissioners
for reimbursement to a commissioner.
[2:05:16] » That's a pain. Why? And we're not doing
it. So,
[2:05:18] » we're not doing it anyway.
>> If it comes back to audit, we're not
[2:05:21] doing it. We're going to get in trouble.
>> So, do you have a red line?
[2:05:23] » I do. I just highlighted the yellow.
Oh, I just It's um page two.
[2:05:32] » But I don't But mine isn't.
>> No, I just highlighted it in yellow.
[2:05:35] » Oh,
>> do we need to do that? Just Okay. And
[2:05:38] then present it back.
>> Yes.
[2:05:39] » Okay, I can do that.
>> Yeah. And then I can look because I I
[2:05:42] like I read through this.
>> We don't have like a document of this
[2:05:46] one, right?
>> How did you get that?
[2:05:48] » You just by page. Yeah.
>> I thought we were talking about the the
[2:05:53] food reimbursement.
>> Well, we can do that, too. But
[2:05:55] » and then I read through that. like
they're not.
[2:05:58] » So, we can. So, I did some research on
that. So, if you guys are in agreement
[2:06:01] with that one, I will change that.
>> Yeah. If I can see your changes and then
[2:06:04] we can
>> It's just basically eliminating a line.
[2:06:07] » There's five of them.
>> Okay. I thought you had Oh, there's five
[2:06:10] different places. It's not just the one
then, Shane. There's five different
[2:06:13] places.
Three,
[2:06:17] » four, five.
>> Yeah. So, I I I would just like to see
[2:06:20] that. Thank you.
>> Because it's just Yeah. Anyway. Okay.
[2:06:23] So, I did look, just to let you guys
know, I did look at the predium and the
[2:06:29] high cost city allowances for meals.
>> I would recommend that we have an
[2:06:33] updated
city list that comes from IRS. That's
[2:06:39] what we should do and that should be on
file and we it should just be updated
[2:06:43] whenever by and so I can include that
the travel policy that this will be
[2:06:46] updated as needed by administrative
services. Is that the best way to put
[2:06:50] that? and then they just go pull this
and they need it.
[2:06:56] » Okay.
>> So then I did some cost comparisons of
[2:07:00] where we're at.
So right now we're at $51 a day and if
[2:07:05] we're in a high cost city, which is $66
a day. What's interesting is there's
[2:07:09] like three high cost cities in Oregon.
Portland is not one of them.
[2:07:15] » Yeah. I saw Bend, Eugene, Florence, and
Seaside.
[2:07:18] » Bend is just new.
>> Florence is new. Yeah, those two were
[2:07:22] new. It was Tbook Lincoln City and
whatever. Anyway, so that's what
[2:07:29] competition
city.
[2:07:32] » So anyway, so I went to the IRS and they
were at 74 for non- high and 86 for full
[2:07:40] day rate, which is basically $25. So
then I went to the GSA which is the
[2:07:44] general services administration which is
lower than the IRS which is kind of and
[2:07:49] it and it details Dutes and Multma
counties and Boyisey
[2:07:54] » as high cost around here at the point we
might fly. So the 63 and 81 but again
[2:08:00] we're not that far off and I don't know
that we need to change it.
[2:08:03] » Okay.
>> I I don't know because most of the time
[2:08:06] people are traveling for a conference
and wheels are in group.
[2:08:10] » Yeah. I like, okay, just example on this
last one. Um,
[2:08:15] when I got there on Wednesday,
I had to get my own dinner
[2:08:22] and that and then on the way home, I got
my own lunch.
[2:08:26] » They
[2:08:29] stay in a hotel that has breakfast.
>> Yes. And so anyway, so um so I mean we
[2:08:34] were less than it was like $12 from the
GSA and $15 on the high cost cities and
[2:08:43] so I don't know. I just with our budget
and things like that and we don't have a
[2:08:47] lot of people traveling.
I just kind of want to make the change
[2:08:52] to remove this and add a note that we
would just use the standard IRS license.
[2:08:56] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[2:08:58] » I agree with that.
>> Yeah. And I think I'm gonna have to
[2:09:00] retype this because we can't find a word
out here.
[2:09:03] Everything's a file, right?
>> You don't need to retype it. We can
[2:09:06] we'll figure that out. So, you just let
me know what your changes are and I'll
[2:09:09] get it.
>> Okay.
[2:09:11] » All right.
>> Oh, yeah. Just leave it in my Dropbox.
[2:09:13] It's not
>> How did we get these? Oh,
[2:09:17] » I had to individually print each. You
had to go and I go to print the whole
[2:09:21] thing and I would get an error. So, I
went page one, page two,
[2:09:27] » I would work on that.
>> Okay. Oh, thank you. So, that's I don't
[2:09:31] know that we need to make a change in
government.
[2:09:33] » Yeah,
>> I've been surviving in it. Okay. So,
[2:09:37] » but I just I do think we need to change
the two commissioners.
[2:09:39] » I do too.
You got to be following.
[2:09:42] » Yeah. I'd like to see your five changes
or whatever on on that one. So, yes. Um
[2:09:47] I I like the the
>> your trajectory.
[2:09:51] » Well, he doesn't have Okay.
>> Well, yeah.
[2:09:54] » Do you have a copy of it?
>> Oh, I have lots of copies highlighted.
[2:10:00] Okay. Because I don't think he has the
copy either with
[2:10:06] » Yes.
>> No, but I'm I mean I just read through
[2:10:09] it and I caught the same thing. I'll I'm
happy to see it.
[2:10:13] » Anyway, that's all it is. Eliminate
that. So, I'll take care.
[2:10:16] » Oh, just in those four spaces.
>> Yep. Just draw it.
[2:10:20] » Well, then I'm fine with that. I thought
you meant that there was four different
[2:10:23] places that you want to change a
oneliner. I didn't know.
[2:10:26] » It's just eliminating
>> the two the word. Okay.
[2:10:29] » Yeah, just where it says
>> I am fine with that if you want if you
[2:10:32] want to vote on that right now or
whatever.
[2:10:35] » And then let me see what it says for
high cost.
[2:10:39] » Hold on.
[2:10:43] » No, because I No, I'm going to change
that because I want it to refer back to
[2:10:46] the current IRS. I want
>> You want to do it? You want to vote on
[2:10:50] it? So 21st 21st word of the child
policy.
[2:10:57] » There's not even a second line for one
of us to sign.
[2:11:01] » I and I read that and I signed off on
it.
[2:11:04] » I was I was looking for something
completely different on the intra web or
[2:11:10] whatever we call it and the travel
policy popped up and I read that and I
[2:11:14] thought, well dang, that's that's not
good.
[2:11:21] All right, I guess we're on to documents
to be signed. Uh, American Forest
[2:11:25] Resource Council membership dues. That's
you.
[2:11:28] » How much is that?
>> That's 600. So, difference between a
[2:11:33] full membership and associate
membership. What is the difference?
[2:11:37] » Let me see. I mean, do we get anything
more if we do we get more benefits? I
[2:11:42] mean, because I was looking at the
benefits. I I asked that question the
[2:11:46] gal and she said that um one is more for
like actual loggers and forestry workers
[2:11:53] » the patterns counties
>> okay
[2:11:56] » so we're still covered under what they
talk about
[2:11:59] » but we don't have voting rights
>> right
[2:12:05] » right
>> um I'll move that we pay the dues for
[2:12:09] American Forest Resources Council
membership for $600 for an associate
[2:12:13] membership
[2:12:15] I'll second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any further
[2:12:18] discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor say I.
[2:12:22] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[2:12:26] I can make this through without my
glasses. Um, order number 2025-122
[2:12:33] designating county dimminimous rate.
[2:12:38] Where is What are we at?
>> Order 10. And now we're at 15. Yeah,
[2:12:42] let's move it to 15.
[2:12:46] » Okay,
[2:12:53] » I'll move to approve order number 25-122
the dimminimous administrative
[2:12:58] deminimous rate moving it from 10% to
15%.
[2:13:02] » I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[2:13:06] further discussion?
>> Saying none. All in favor say I.
[2:13:10] » I. Hi. Motion carries.
[2:13:21] » Reappoint. Okay. Order number 2025123.
Reappointing members to the Baker County
[2:13:28] Fairboard.
>> Oh, she just put it on staff report.
[2:13:32] Okay. Um
>> I Yeah. Um, if you're ready, I'll um
[2:13:38] I'll make a motion to reappoint
[2:13:44] » Dan uh Dean DeFreeze and Chris Stocks to
the Baker County Fair Board for a term
[2:13:50] set to expire May 1st, 2028. Order
number 25 2025-123.
[2:13:56] » Sorry, I'll second that.
>> Sorry, I did it backwards, so I I
[2:14:00] apologize. I have a motion and a weird
backwards thing.
[2:14:05] Second.
>> Sorry.
[2:14:08] » Uh, any further discussion?
>> Say none. All in favor say I.
[2:14:13] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[2:14:15] » Okay, let me try again.
>> All right, I'll give you another chance.
[2:14:20] I will make a motion to
approve order number 2025-124
[2:14:26] reappointing Barry Nimick to the
transportation advisory committee for a
[2:14:29] term set to expire May 1st, 2028.
>> I'll second it.
[2:14:34] » A motion and a second. Any further
discussion?
[2:14:37] Seeing none, all in favor say I.
>> I.
[2:14:40] » I. Motion carries.
>> Okay. I will make a motion to approve
[2:14:44] order number 2025-125
reappointing Doug Gaslin to the Economic
[2:14:50] Development Council for a term set to
expire May 1st, 2028.
[2:14:54] » Second it.
>> Do we need to make a change to that?
[2:15:00] » Uh, no. He um not I don't I don't think
so.
[2:15:04] » Okay. Oh, he's good.
>> Yeah,
[2:15:06] » it should be Yeah, because there's so
many vacancies right now.
[2:15:11] Yep. Yeah. Okay. I just want to make
sure that Yeah. Okay. I'll second it.
[2:15:16] » A motion and a second. All No. Any
further discussion? Seeing none. All in
[2:15:21] favor say I.
>> I.
[2:15:22] » I. Motion carries.
>> And last, I will make a motion to
[2:15:26] approve order number 2025-126
reappointing Wade Simpson to the Baker
[2:15:31] County Weed District Board for a term to
expire April 1, 2028.
[2:15:36] » I'll second it.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[2:15:40] further discussion?
Seeing none. All in favor say I.
[2:15:45] » I.
>> I. Motion carries.
[2:15:48] All right. Ratification of documents.
Um
[2:15:57] I can there's one that I have a conflict
of interest with and Christine is going
[2:16:00] to take care of that one.
>> Okay. But I'll move to approve accounts
[2:16:04] payable reports C21, C-22, M31 and
payroll and payroll AP reports APC 24,
[2:16:12] PRC79, PRC78,
APC 23, PRC77, APC19,
[2:16:19] APC 18, PRC76,
APC 20,
[2:16:24] and the March review
March revenue and expenditure report.
[2:16:29] » I'll second. I have a motion and a
second. Any further discussion?
[2:16:34] Hearing none. All in favor say I.
>> I. Motion carries. And then you need to
[2:16:38] take
>> Yep. I will make a motion to ratify the
[2:16:42] signature on accounts payable report
C16.
[2:16:48] » Oh, I have to second. Yeah, that's it.
Uh, I'll second.
[2:16:53] I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion on that?
[2:16:57] » Seeing none, all in favor say I. I.
>> I.
[2:17:00] carries.
>> Oh, you have two and one abstension. Two
[2:17:04] eyes and one abstension.
[2:17:09] » Okay, let's see.
So,
[2:17:15] what do So,
the Republican caucus came out with a
[2:17:21] proposal
to cancel
[2:17:27] or eliminate cut
statewide the stiff fund the statewide
[2:17:32] transportation improvement fund for 36
million statewide. Um
[2:17:37] I tal you guys weren't on the call
yesterday morning but I talked to um
[2:17:41] Representative Owens about this because
he was one of the
[2:17:43] » forgetting
every other it
[2:17:47] » yeah. So anyway I just put it on my
calendar. So anyway, so
[2:17:51] » I had it on mine, too.
>> His comment was, I'll just make this um
[2:17:57] that this was a good faith effort to the
Democrats that they can come out of it,
[2:18:02] not raise taxes, they
>> and I said, do you understand how this
[2:18:06] affects rural Eastern Oregon when you
have when it's, you know, you have no
[2:18:12] rail, you have no Greyhound, you have
nothing out here for transportation for
[2:18:17] the lower income frontier communities. I
mean, I just I hit every point. Connie
[2:18:21] did a great job of
>> helping me.
[2:18:23] » Oh, good.
>> Because I I called I was going to I
[2:18:26] fired off, you know, I was getting ready
to do my letter to um Representative
[2:18:29] Owens and Senator Nash and Flatty. I
mean, everybody that I met, I was going
[2:18:33] to do this and I went,
>> "Calm down, Michelle. Callie first." So,
[2:18:36] I called Connie and she helped me with
the wording. And I'm still going to send
[2:18:39] an email and if you guys would like, um
I can draft the draft the letter and
[2:18:43] have you guys sign it if you want to do
that. Okay. Um because um Chris Patnau,
[2:18:49] Judge Patnau also
spoke in favor saying, "Hey guys, come
[2:18:53] on. You you are affecting all of us."
And um so anyway, so what my my letter
[2:18:59] to them is going to ask, how is it
affecting each of the counties in your
[2:19:03] district and how much is it cutting and
what all is it cutting? Yeah. And who
[2:19:07] are you targeting?
>> You're targeting lowincome families,
[2:19:11] veterans, low income, you know, things
like that. I was just hot when I read
[2:19:14] that. And um so anyway,
>> disabled
[2:19:17] » disabled. Yeah. So and so anyway, so I
have a rough draft of the letter. Um I'm
[2:19:22] going to change the wording just a
little bit and I'll get that to you guys
[2:19:25] as well.
>> Yes, please. And then
[2:19:27] » I don't know. I'm going to send it to
Representative Owens, but I don't know
[2:19:30] because uh Representative Den is the one
that kind of that Republican caucus that
[2:19:35] she's
>> she's the one that did that. Um, but I
[2:19:39] kind of want our guys to know that we
are really against this.
[2:19:44] » Yes.
>> And and I know that they canceled EOCA
[2:19:47] for this week. Next week. Oh, they
cancelled EOCA for next week.
[2:19:50] » I couldn't get it in the last one. So, I
wasn't sure when they were.
[2:19:53] » Yeah. Paul Paul said there was wasn't
going to be one. So, anyway, so I'm
[2:19:56] going to try and see if I'll copy the
letter and then send it to Paul and John
[2:20:00] and all those other guys. So, try as
many as we can on it.
[2:20:03] » And once we see it, if you if you have
Heidi send us your
[2:20:08] your coffee then. Yeah, all we have to
do is is just say add my signature
[2:20:13] yourself. So anyway, but yeah, so that's
where I did a whole bunch of research
[2:20:17] going in. There's something that says
because the employee based some of this
[2:20:23] money, a lot of this money is by self
employee tax and the employee tax said
[2:20:27] it has to go to
transportation. Yeah.
[2:20:31] » So they're trying to take it just put it
at ODOT. Just generally put into ODOT
[2:20:34] and so Connie says I don't think they
can do that. So, we need to figure out
[2:20:37] exactly which fund they're targeting
because there's three funds.
[2:20:40] » Uhu.
>> Um, and we have like when I look at our
[2:20:42] budget, there's three different line
items, but the payroll tax is the
[2:20:46] biggest one. It's like 200 some thousand
dollars that's coming in.
[2:20:49] » So, we need to figure out where that's
all coming in.
[2:20:51] » And so, um,
>> thank you.
[2:20:54] » She didn't, you know, it's just one of
those things.
[2:20:57] » And honestly, if I had not been doing
this job,
[2:21:01] » I would not have paid any attention to
this at all. And that's what I told
[2:21:05] Connie. I says I and I actually told
that too. I says that is something that
[2:21:09] is outside of the legislative process.
It doesn't have a house bill. It doesn't
[2:21:13] have a Senate bill.
>> I I just I moved.
[2:21:16] » Yeah. And and you literally have to
catch it.
[2:21:20] » I mean, you literally just somehow you
have to catch it. O N R I and I'm not
[2:21:26] exactly sure it's a natural resource is
where this came from
[2:21:30] » originally and I went
>> so I just that anyway that's going with
[2:21:35] that. So I will take care of that.
>> Um so I would get a letter.
[2:21:38] » The other thing is
>> yeah they've got whatever 38 million for
[2:21:42] passenger rail which is probably not
enough but then there's a bill and I
[2:21:46] don't know where it's at to pull
passenger rail completely away from ODOT
[2:21:50] and create its own
>> Yeah. So, so like he his comment was
[2:21:54] that this was their good faith effort
that he's probably not going to fly, but
[2:21:57] I don't care. I mean, look at okay, look
at the um bill that we thought had gone
[2:22:01] away for TLT. It's back. And so that's
where I was um you know, the reallocate
[2:22:07] vacancies. That just means that they're
they haven't filled the job. There's a
[2:22:10] bill
that we're working on in the public
[2:22:14] safety committee and it's not bad and we
have people working on it, but it
[2:22:18] started out as one of the
do a study and yeah figure out whatever
[2:22:24] it was for and that's it was a one pager
and then they've tagged on to this one
[2:22:30] pager to completely overhaul the CJC and
change the granting
[2:22:35] » which may not be a bad thing but if you
weren't on committee or
[2:22:40] » right you wouldn't have known it. So one
of the is the um the bicycle and
[2:22:44] pedestrian program. So um we get so some
of the money that the road gets goes
[2:22:50] into this bicycle like $30,000 every
year. So that's some of that would come
[2:22:55] back to us. Then there was one where the
litter graffiti abandoned clean up. I'm
[2:23:00] like really seriously
>> really how about in Baker County along
[2:23:03] Oda?
>> Yeah. Uhhuh. Along the freeway down I5
[2:23:07] and what a mess it is. Is it?
>> Oh, it is. It's terrible. Um,
[2:23:13] yeah. I mean, some of these probably is
fine, but um, you know, but some of
[2:23:16] these I'm just going No.
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
[2:23:22] » Okay. So, the next one's mine, too, I
think. Um,
[2:23:26] so
Dam.
[2:23:29] » Okay, here we go.
>> So, I have a hand out for both. Sorry.
[2:23:35] » Um, thank you.
So what I did
[2:23:40] I just going through the budget process
there was a line item for Mason Dam
[2:23:45] project
>> for the power thing.
[2:23:48] » Yeah. For like 210,000. So I reached it.
So when trying to figure out what was
[2:23:52] going on with that because it hasn't
changed at all.
[2:23:54] » It hasn't changed at all. And that was
one from before I think even you guys
[2:23:58] went.
>> Yeah. Nothing has.
[2:24:00] » Yeah. Anyway, so I reached out to uh
Jason and he gave me things and he was
[2:24:06] basically told to quit working on it. Um
I think our permits have expired,
[2:24:10] anything like that. So um anyway, so if
we are not in our lifetime going to see
[2:24:18] that and promote it and all that stuff,
do we need that 210 sitting there? Can
[2:24:22] we move it back?
>> Yeah, that would be nice. So do we need
[2:24:25] a
>> So I think we just do that during
[2:24:27] budget.
>> Do it through budget.
[2:24:28] » Okay, I'll do it in my in the budget
message. we'll do budget and so but I
[2:24:32] wanted you guys to see because he I also
included the minutes the last two years
[2:24:36] so
>> um
[2:24:38] » so you guys can
>> I don't think this is I've got the file
[2:24:42] in there if you guys
>> it's a nice idea
[2:24:44] » I think there's one there's a one
upstairs but
[2:24:48] » 200,000 isn't even going to be a match
>> $200,000 wasn't going to do the
[2:24:52] engineering
>> no on and and nobody's working on it so
[2:24:56] I mean we're not ever really going to do
it within the next 10 or 20 So you put
[2:25:00] the thing in, how much power is it going
to generate and is it worth doing that?
[2:25:05] And then how's it going to affect
habitat downream?
[2:25:08] » How much water can actually go through
there at a time when we use it for
[2:25:12] irrigation anyway?
>> Yeah.
[2:25:13] » So because I mean how often does it go
to nothing?
[2:25:18] » Never. I never see I never see that kind
of river not moving.
[2:25:22] » But I mean it but
>> but not enough to generate power,
[2:25:26] » right? So that would be July, August,
September,
[2:25:30] » and then you got to worry about the
water temperature.
[2:25:32] » Yep.
>> So anyway, so okay, I will work with
[2:25:34] Christina. We will talk about that for
your budget.
[2:25:37] » This is something I've been trying to
pawn off to OTAC every once in a while
[2:25:40] when they're not looking.
>> They don't want it.
[2:25:43] » Well, I'm younger. Eventually, I'll find
somebody that
[2:25:47] » one other note on our budget that she
sent out to everybody budgets. You
[2:25:51] notice that the 600 um we took out the
vehicle expense because we put it in
[2:25:55] budget.
>> It's in facilities budget because that's
[2:25:58] where all of our expenses go.
>> No, that okay. It was in there because
[2:26:03] it needs It needs work
and it needs it needs
[2:26:06] » it comes out of Dan's budget. That's
what Christina says. It comes out of
[2:26:09] Dan's budget.
>> So you just put the thing over for Dan
[2:26:12] to deal with.
>> That's what she said.
[2:26:15] » Okay. Because Dan
to do with it with that vehicle.
[2:26:21] Well, $600 isn't going to cover the
train.
[2:26:23] » It's not. And it needs to be get in
there and looked at. And um
[2:26:29] the work that was that needs to be done
was quoted by um lube oil lube thing
[2:26:37] depot and it was close to 500. So I said
600 for the um because it's going to be
[2:26:43] the road department that actually does
that work.
[2:26:46] » It's interesting because you said
>> it's not new It's several things
[2:26:50] that they found in there and I didn't
trust them. Um,
[2:26:53] I'm sorry, but you know, I mean, I tell
my mother the same thing. You never
[2:26:58] you're never okay at the first time.
>> Um, you always get a second opinion and
[2:27:02] deal with it
>> because she was saying that all the all
[2:27:05] of our vehicles,
>> all the maintenance and everything like
[2:27:07] that comes out of Dan's budget.
>> I don't see any I I took it to Lubo and
[2:27:12] filter last year to get that done to get
it exchanged. I have never there's there
[2:27:17] hasn't been anything that they've I
check the oil when I take it on my own.
[2:27:22] I
>> if we're just talking about the
[2:27:24] commission mobile why don't we just put
it in the commission budget.
[2:27:28] » So I and just clarify I asked the
difference because I said so the
[2:27:32] assessors they all have their individual
cars and so they because they are
[2:27:36] individually responsible for that car
they have to gas it up they or they have
[2:27:39] to change the oil they have to rotate
the tires to do all that. Dan does it.
[2:27:43] » No, he doesn't. I have been doing it
>> on the Equinox, too.
[2:27:47] » No, just
>> just the Cherokee is why that was in
[2:27:50] there.
>> Put the G and the money for it in the
[2:27:53] commissioner budget and put the book in
our office and call it good.
[2:27:58] » No, the book is fine where it's at.
>> Um, you can still reserve it.
[2:28:02] » Yeah, anybody other people have used it.
Um, other other departments have used
[2:28:06] it, but nobody else maintains it. I,
like I say, I am the one that's been
[2:28:10] doing the maintaining. But if we're
going to just say it's our cuz you never
[2:28:14] take it out of account.
>> It is. And the I I think planning used
[2:28:17] it one time to go up to the OTC summit
up in Anthony Lakes um in 23. I think
[2:28:23] they used it. Uh but the log really is
just us. I mean if anybody else needed
[2:28:28] to use it, we wouldn't say no.
>> Well, right. But that's what you could
[2:28:32] just get back.
>> It's just specific on that one. It's
[2:28:35] just just cher just a cher.
>> Right. You could put the Cherokee.
[2:28:39] » The equinox is in the pool. Yeah, you
could put the Cherokee in our
[2:28:44] » budget and just run it that way.
>> Well, it is.
[2:28:46] » No, I mean it's just separate.
>> So then, so that travel and training
[2:28:50] expenses then when we
>> So then vehicle expense that should be
[2:28:53] because we're not charging anything to
it.
[2:28:55] » So where is it when you get the oil
change and all that stuff? Where's that
[2:28:59] going?
>> Um that came out of it was the
[2:29:02] commissioner card for the oil change
last year. It was Yep. I I had the
[2:29:06] commissioner card and I went and did the
the oil change on that. Um, and it was
[2:29:12] also Did we get a charge from Commercial
Tire when Oh, no. That was the Equinox
[2:29:16] that you and I were in when we had the
flat.
[2:29:18] » You shouldn't have got the bill,
>> but no, we didn't. We didn't on that.
[2:29:21] But yeah, I did pay with the with just
the card. Now, that's an interesting
[2:29:26] question because blacks and uh Pacific
Pride cards are in there and I they they
[2:29:32] go to wherever. I don't know where that
it does say commissioner on the I mean,
[2:29:37] it's specific to that vehicle. Um, but
it that so then
[2:29:41] » this is a great conversation because we
don't know.
[2:29:43] » So then the fuel doesn't come out of of
that.
[2:29:46] » No,
>> it comes out of the pool.
[2:29:48] » Yeah.
>> So, okay. However it works. Um,
[2:29:52] » okay. We'll just figure it out. I'll
tell her. It's either got it
[2:29:56] » either or
>> either or.
[2:29:58] » I'll have more for you.
>> Because then then, you know, if we had
[2:30:01] to include the fuel on that, then we'd
have to look at last year's fuel
[2:30:04] consumption to in order to even know
what that I'm saying is. And that's I
[2:30:09] think maybe why Christina thought maybe
it seemed to
[2:30:12] » it certainly can. Yeah. I I mean if
>> we can expand it okay
[2:30:21] » I kind of worry about other departments
driving it.
[2:30:25] » So
>> yeah the Cherokee is not the Cherokee is
[2:30:29] not in the pool. No. And that's that's
the thing is it's not in the pool.
[2:30:34] » We wouldn't deny anybody using it but it
is Cherokee. is Commissioner Ray.
[2:30:38] » All right. So, we'll have to Okay, we'll
get that fig.
[2:30:42] » I appropriated it and so
>> Okay. All right. Good. Well, we need to
[2:30:46] make sure. So, if if the fuel is
supposed to be charged to that, then
[2:30:50] I'll go with Christina and Shaylin to
make sure that
[2:30:52] » Yeah. Well, it it is charged to that,
but it's it's probably charged through
[2:30:57] the it's not charged to our
commissioner. It's it's probably charged
[2:31:00] in the pool.
>> That card is specific to that vehicle,
[2:31:04] so they would know. Okay.
>> So, you could move it over. We'd have to
[2:31:08] bump up our travel expense a little
smudging, but
[2:31:13] » we'll see about that.
>> Yeah.
[2:31:14] » Okay.
>> All right.
[2:31:16] » Well, increase your vehicle expense
because your cash
[2:31:22] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. If it's stay with us, then
[2:31:24] we'd have to figure in all of that
stuff.
[2:31:25] » It's going to be worth $600.
>> Yeah. Everything
[2:31:29] » knowing that we're going to have at
least 500 or so
[2:31:31] » in $600 fuel up anymore.
Okay, I'll work with Christina on that.
[2:31:37] So, you may see a change. We were in
balance until today.
[2:31:42] » I may have to change some stuff on the
juvenile, too. So,
[2:31:46] » um, is that
>> is that it for your update or do you
[2:31:50] have more? I I
>> got Sorry. Um, uh, community
[2:31:54] connections. Last week I was nominated
as voice chair.
[2:31:58] » Oh, nice.
>> Oh, good. Yay.
[2:32:00] » Thank you, Commissioner Sparkle. Um, I
did the CIS screening. um for recruiting
[2:32:06] and hiring and bringing people on
boarding for new employees and it was
[2:32:09] excellent. It was excellent. Um I I wish
you guys could have gone.
[2:32:13] » I thought that I signed up and I did not
and then I ended up uh I I testified at
[2:32:20] 10. I was the last one to testify on the
wolf bill at 10
[2:32:24] » and and I went in there just to make
sure that I that I signed up because
[2:32:28] mine looks different than Donny's on the
calendar or yours on the calendar and
[2:32:32] and it said you're not signed up for
this. Your next opportunity is Clamoth
[2:32:35] Falls and I'm like nope. Okay.
>> There was quite a few people there and
[2:32:38] there was a few people from uh Ontario
Grand.
[2:32:42] » Nice.
>> Yeah.
[2:32:44] » Yeah.
>> There was so anyway um and then I'm also
[2:32:48] now on the
local area
[2:32:53] mental health partnership
>> in addition to you know that was the new
[2:32:58] directions thing is so there's like two
or three of the mental health the local
[2:33:02] area mental health departments and so
there's like two or three different
[2:33:04] committees and so I'm on that one and so
county college is next week
[2:33:08] » um and then we have our community
outreach and Jane's going to go to
[2:33:13] halfway so that's all I have
[2:33:18] » Thursday and
[2:33:21] Oh, Friday. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
out of town for
[2:33:24] » You're not going to do the natural
resource
[2:33:26] » on Friday? No, I saw that. Um, no, I'll
be out of town. It's at 1:00. They
[2:33:30] switched it and last last Monday was on
Monday. So, um, I'll be I'll be in for
[2:33:36] the Monday, but
>> but I have the I have the agenda for
[2:33:40] natural resources right now. I can look
at any of it. And
[2:33:43] » when is that?
>> Is that this Friday or
[2:33:47] » Yes, this Friday at 1. Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah.
[2:33:49] » Yeah. Health uh health human services is
at 8. There's one at 10 or natural
[2:33:54] resources one there's one at 10 and then
there's another one at three and then on
[2:33:58] Monday there's
>> three must be mine
[2:34:00] » the whole
>> Yeah.
[2:34:01] » Okay.
>> But I'm not I'm not chair this time.
[2:34:05] » Um HHS is
>> okay.
[2:34:08] » Oh, yours on transportation.
>> Um I don't know what that is.
[2:34:10] » Me? No, I've got um public safety.
>> That's you. That's your comparison and
[2:34:15] your updates and everything. I my dates
keep moving. I've got what we just
[2:34:19] talked about of it's not my turn to
present for health and human
[2:34:27] for public safety.
>> Okay. Oh.
[2:34:29] » Uh so I mean I'll still sit in and then
uh you know wedge and all of that. Uh,
[2:34:35] apparently I'm going to
wherever the
[2:34:39] » halfway on Tuesday
>> on the 13th and then Friday I've got a
[2:34:45] thing I need to testify on for uh the
ask for the housing up at halfway.
[2:34:54] » Okay.
>> Um,
[2:34:56] other than that, I had a bunch of stuff
canceled and switched around again, so I
[2:35:01] don't want that.
>> Okay. Um, so is that yours
[2:35:05] » pretty much?
>> Okay. I have two updates. One of them is
[2:35:08] that uh so the mobile home at that used
to sit at Huitt was moved over to
[2:35:14] Hulcom. The idea was that we would put
it up close to the um wellhouse. It's um
[2:35:21] it can't be moved up to the wellhouse at
with the current grade and uh that is on
[2:35:26] that road. Uh it's too steep and you
know not enough of a gentle incline to
[2:35:31] get it up there. It's settling where
it's at. Um, and so the parks is uh I
[2:35:37] was down there yesterday uh for an
interview and then some other stuff
[2:35:41] yesterday and um talked about it with
Donnie and to move it up there would
[2:35:48] take the road work from the road
department who which they're really
[2:35:51] stretched thin right now. Um there's
interest uh well let me see it take
[2:35:56] 1,000 foot sewer line uh that we'd have
to dig and put in 100 foot of both
[2:36:02] electric and um water line which isn't a
big deal but um right now it is settling
[2:36:07] to the point that a door popped open it
had to be screwed shut and um the inside
[2:36:12] is really nice. I swear when we did the
walkthrough last year when John left, I
[2:36:16] thought I had to do the rock walkthrough
and I thought, oh, oh, you know, and I
[2:36:20] walked in like, oh, this is really nice.
It's really nice on the inside. It's
[2:36:24] single wide, so it would be easier to
move, you know, um, than a double, but
[2:36:30] it's still where we wanted it to go.
It's just not working. If we were to go
[2:36:35] ahead and do all the work and do the
road work, anywhere that we dig up
[2:36:39] there, we have to do a cultural study
anywhere. And so then that would also be
[2:36:46] a whole series of stuff like that.
There's interest in the valley to
[2:36:50] purchase that and move it um within
Richland Valley. And uh
[2:36:55] » because the value we'd have to put it up
for
[2:36:57] » Yeah.
>> Uh or for sale, can't we?
[2:37:01] » We have to do
>> we have to do a Okay. So whatever we
[2:37:04] have to do, I don't know. I've never
sold a a trailer house.
[2:37:08] » Work with Dan. He does the uh
>> through facilities. He could sell it.
[2:37:11] Okay. Okay, Dan facilities. Thank you.
And if you guys are okay with that, then
[2:37:16] I will
>> I'm good. It's unless we have to insure.
[2:37:19] » So that just means you don't have place
for somebody to live now for your
[2:37:23] part-time person for your maintenance
person, they won't live on on site.
[2:37:27] » Nobody can live on site. Well, okay. Not
anymore. Since John left that that just
[2:37:33] went away. Um the idea behind it up
there would be more of a presence over
[2:37:37] at Hulcom because there's no office over
there, right?
[2:37:40] » Down the road. It would be nice to look
at the possibility of an office up there
[2:37:44] or a camper that is dedicated to the um
the parks, you know, for somebody to
[2:37:49] stay up there.
>> Like one of those sheds and frame.
[2:37:52] » You could get a shed. You could get you
could do a camper. I mean, you could do
[2:37:56] just a myriad of different things.
>> So, will Donna be able to see the
[2:38:01] cameras in her office?
>> Yeah. Perfect.
[2:38:03] » Yeah. Yep. So, um so that's that's where
I I will follow through with Dan on that
[2:38:10] one. And then um so you have consensus.
So
[2:38:13] » yeah, so I attended several of the Baker
County Livestock Association uh meetings
[2:38:19] with with ODA for the TMDL
>> and the first one was uh just a few just
[2:38:25] bigger livestock only. Um Monday night
was uh public uh with ODA and the Baker
[2:38:32] County Livestock Association. It was at
the event center. It was in the big
[2:38:36] area.
>> I just got There was quite a quite a
[2:38:42] turnout. Um, and there was quite a bit
>> of feedback from the ranchers and
[2:38:48] producers this time to ODA and what they
are asking and what they're not going to
[2:38:54] be doing, what they are doing and
everything else. Good.
[2:38:57] » And so it was really good.
>> Not just critics, it was a bunch of
[2:39:00] people.
>> Oh, it was a bunch of people. Um, it was
[2:39:03] a bunch of people saying no. And I had
to stand up when they started and just
[2:39:07] say
you are laying blame on the land owners,
[2:39:11] the livestock owners right now
pre-monitoring.
[2:39:15] The monitoring is five years for a
reason because they approached it in
[2:39:20] what are you going to do livestock
owners to help us get to the desired
[2:39:25] levels?
>> Oh and I said yes yes they did. And and
[2:39:30] I said you cannot lay blame on these
people. You don't know what the source
[2:39:33] is yet until we have five years
monitoring and DNA included in that. You
[2:39:37] don't know what the point source is and
you're blaming them before.
[2:39:42] Huge huge feedback. They were railroaded
off of their um presentation that they
[2:39:49] did with the Baker County Livestock.
skip skip skip and it two hours that um
[2:39:56] that it was it was down to and they keep
on saying that we we we say that ODA
[2:40:02] that DEQ doesn't have any um say over
ODA that ODA is the is the um is the
[2:40:08] state agency that has the power the DEQ
doesn't have power over them but
[2:40:12] everything that they said was like well
DEQ said that we have to DEEQ says that
[2:40:17] we have to you know that says ODA says
we don't have to sorry
[2:40:21] » ODA says that it's it's up to them and
then he kept on saying we are going to
[2:40:26] do this we're going to do that and it
was brought to their attention you're
[2:40:30] not doing anything powder basin wershed
water conservation district
[2:40:34] » 50 from the
>> and all yep and all of these but but
[2:40:38] they're not even going to be doing the
monitoring ODA isn't going to they're
[2:40:42] relying on all of these other agencies
that are in the DMA
[2:40:47] um that that have to write their their
plans and they have to do the
[2:40:52] monitoring. ODA is on there, but they're
using these other
[2:40:56] » agencies to do it. So, they're not it's
it's totally backwards.
[2:41:02] » Cattleman's stood up. I stood up.
>> Even your uh the president uh Jim
[2:41:09] » Jim
>> stood up and said, "Okay, this is stop.
[2:41:13] This is you. You've got to stop your
presentation because this is what we
[2:41:17] want to hear. We want to hear about
monitoring." That's and that's what we
[2:41:20] said. This is all that you should be
hearing that you should be talking about
[2:41:22] right now is what you're going to do for
monitoring. And they can't even do that
[2:41:26] because they're not doing the
monitoring.
[2:41:28] » So Tim is very much working.
>> Yes.
[2:41:30] » He did a he's done a lot of um
legislative work in the past.
[2:41:36] » So and and and then I'm sure that you
received this from Drew Farmer Cous
[2:41:42] County.
>> I did.
[2:41:43] » Okay.
I love it. I think we should sign on to
[2:41:47] it. So I am in support of this and it's
basically that um he's he's a
[2:41:53] commissioner from Kous County. He has an
>> I was thinking
[2:41:58] » he has an idea to resolve county
deficits by negating the ongoing funding
[2:42:01] challenges caused by measures five and
50. And um the proposal is to require 5%
[2:42:07] state income taxes to return to their
counties of origin. This bypasses any
[2:42:11] scaling restrictions caused by measures
five and 50 and creates a local benefit
[2:42:15] from increasing local wages. The dollar
amounts for each county will be listed
[2:42:20] on the So the dollar amount for Baker
County is 1,155,000.
[2:42:26] » So So he says he's having a he's not
sure if it go to the legislature or put
[2:42:31] it on the ballot.
>> Yeah, because so right now AOC can't
[2:42:35] help him,
>> right? Um he says that um
[2:42:39] » has the legislature time.
>> Um why did he say AOC is restricted from
[2:42:44] assisting?
So that's
[2:42:48] » um let me see. He said
>> so I'm going to keep this because I will
[2:42:50] see him
>> because this proposal includes a ballot
[2:42:53] measure.
>> Uh the AOC is restricted from assisting.
[2:42:58] » No, they couldn't. Okay. So, I would
like our county to
[2:43:03] sign on with him and say, "Yes, we are
in favor of this." If you two, and if
[2:43:08] you're going to see him at county
college, I think that I would I got back
[2:43:13] to him and I said, um, I I I like the
proposal that I would talk to you two
[2:43:18] and that uh we would confirm our
involvement moving forward.
[2:43:22] » I' I'd sign him. Absolutely.
>> You want me to? Yeah, we got to if it's
[2:43:25] a ballot measure, we kind of have to
>> Well, it just gives it just gives him
[2:43:28] some ideas. It's the emphasis before the
ballot, you know, who's going to help.
[2:43:33] » And you can't. Yeah, before if we're in
agreement before the ballot measures
[2:43:37] written and prepared. That's okay.
>> Well, that's what he's asking for is who
[2:43:41] is with me if he goes through all of
this work to do.
[2:43:43] » I was going to take that in and talk to
Carrie about it and I haven't had
[2:43:47] chance. Do you want to do it or
>> I don't have time today. Like I say, I
[2:43:50] have meetings from noon to 5. So, um,
why would you talk to Krie?
[2:43:58] » Why would you talk to Krie about it?
>> He's been doing it for all these years
[2:44:03] just to see if
>> But this is state level coming back to
[2:44:06] us,
>> right? But he knows Carrie knows the
[2:44:09] laws on it. It's just
>> on me. We changing major five and 50.
[2:44:13] » Well, ask just ask him if he thought it
would work and then
[2:44:16] » I'm not going I'm
>> we don't have to do it today. I can do
[2:44:19] it if you want.
>> Yeah. because I don't know what it needs
[2:44:23] because it doesn't really say
>> it doesn't say what the funds would be
[2:44:27] used for.
>> I think at this point I would like to
[2:44:29] say yes we are behind you but we need
the details and then we're going to see
[2:44:34] more of those details and we want to
know more down the road.
[2:44:37] » Okay. I will do that. Um I'll get back
to him today and and uh look at that.
[2:44:43] » Um
>> we have too Yeah. As quickly as
[2:44:47] possible. Since our last session I went
to that AFRC meeting. Um lot of good
[2:44:51] came out of that. Like you heard today I
am getting a coalition of timber um
[2:44:56] industry together. There is a small
mill. There is a small um
[2:45:05] » no uh kiln
>> for lumber that is within our county. We
[2:45:09] have timber companies and everything
else. And I'd like to bring them
[2:45:12] together so that we can uh get with the
forest service and we can start moving
[2:45:16] forward because uh region six Jackie
Buchanan's goal is not 25% as per the um
[2:45:23] executive order from the Trump
administration but it is over 30% by
[2:45:28] 2027. So hers is more ambitious in in
region six with us.
[2:45:32] » Does that help our wershed?
>> Yeah. Uh there's a lot of stuff on that
[2:45:38] just so so the watershed is through the
comment period right now. Just so you
[2:45:42] guys know, I can just touch on that real
quick. It is through the comment period
[2:45:45] right now and um so I'm waiting for
confirmation uh that we will be in um
[2:45:52] the the end conversation of all comments
and everything like that so that we can
[2:45:56] move forward.
>> Um and then on um Yeah. So I'll I'll
[2:46:02] sorry I got
>> No, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. Um,
[2:46:06] let's see. Went out and had the cleanup
at uh the wigwam. People turned out. It
[2:46:11] was It was a good turnout. We had a lot
of stuff to clean up. And then um
[2:46:16] » articles in Health Canyon Journal.
>> Oh, good. Good. Yep. I'll have to. So,
[2:46:19] you guys saw that Debbie Lawrence was
there. So, we were able to burn some
[2:46:22] piles and the neighbor was there and
he's like, "Can I burn too?" And so,
[2:46:26] everybody all together. It was really
great. Um, neighbors were bring one
[2:46:30] neighbor brought over his little tractor
and was doing stuff. So, it's so nice.
[2:46:36] Um,
and let's see, did it do we had an
[2:46:40] ENRACH meeting covered a bunch of the
the natural resource issues and the
[2:46:44] watershed and all of that. Um, I
testified on the wolf. Uh, there was
[2:46:50] actually there was Burk Meer from uh, WA
County. He was in tears. Uh,
[2:46:56] » no, his son. Um, and uh, Tom.
>> Yeah, Tom. Tom.
[2:47:01] » Um, he was in tears. Uh they had had at
that point that morning he said around
[2:47:08] five depradations from um a pack that
>> Todd was talking about that yesterday.
[2:47:13] » Yeah. And and his wife his oh his wife
got on. She was great. And then Lake
[2:47:18] County Commissioner got on and he he's
from uh he our wolf traveled all the way
[2:47:24] down depreated and then hit their county
and he was reduced to tears and put up
[2:47:29] the agri stress stress help line number
contact for people very very emotional
[2:47:36] and like I say I was the last one to
>> Was that Barry or or I don't I don't too
[2:47:42] much up here. Um I had Tri County
quarterly uh board meeting uh that was a
[2:47:48] good meeting. Um
moving forward they Shondaanda uh has
[2:47:54] secured close to 2 million for treatment
on the fire areas.
[2:47:58] » Yeah. So that's all working and then due
to our status of um
[2:48:06] audits
um BLM is there was a big discussion
[2:48:11] about 50,000 that's supposed to go to
Baker County weed. It's going to have to
[2:48:16] be modified to go through uh Tri County
in order to receive that. And that was
[2:48:23] for some of the the fire areas as well.
>> So getting close.
[2:48:28] » Okay. because that's that's a
conversation within a few of the
[2:48:31] committees and
>> they have everything that they need at
[2:48:35] this point.
>> Okay.
[2:48:36] » Believe listening to Christina. Um they
have everything they need. So it's in
[2:48:39] their Okay.
>> So she's submitted everything to them at
[2:48:42] the
>> for 21 22 23
[2:48:47] » 21
>> just 21. Okay. Okay.
[2:48:49] » I'm just doing one year at a time.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[2:48:52] » She's hoping by the end of this year
calendar here. Okay. to have another
[2:48:58] one.
>> Uh so, uh I on Monday I went out with
[2:49:02] Luke from um the road department. We
went out to the Bert River crossing um
[2:49:06] where a bridge was taken out and people
have just crossed through it to get up
[2:49:10] to their mines and everything. It it
connects to Clark's Creek and
[2:49:15] » he's talking about that's what they're
going to build that with they're going
[2:49:19] to build that bridge, right? No, no,
there's not going to be any bridge that
[2:49:22] it's BLM removed that bridge, but it's
but it it's county road up through it.
[2:49:28] So, what they did is in the past when
the water goes down, you can just ford
[2:49:32] it. you can go through and then you hook
up and everything and you go through.
[2:49:35] And then uh years ago, road department
came in and they put boulders upstream
[2:49:39] and that caused holes behind it and
things moving and everything. And now
[2:49:44] under high water where we were standing
yesterday, note that it's not as high as
[2:49:49] what I you know like years where it's
like last year when it was flooding it
[2:49:53] was over the road. Um it it's you can't
see into it though. So mine you can't
[2:49:58] tell where the if there's a boulder or
not if you were to fort it. So, I will
[2:50:02] go back up when the water is down, but
the road department is looking at um
[2:50:07] just placing maybe some concrete
railroad ties that were taken out that
[2:50:11] that you see in piles here and there.
Maybe utilizing those and placing them
[2:50:16] as like an underwater
>> Oh.
[2:50:18] » type, you know, thing. I don't know. But
>> isn't that the one that he wanted the
[2:50:22] pressure for that? Wasn't that the
Clark?
[2:50:25] » That's Clark's Creek. But this is Burnt
River Cross. This is on Burnt River and
[2:50:29] it connects to Clark's Creek.
>> Okay. All right. That's one way of going
[2:50:32] in or this way and it's shorter this way
for the miners. Two of the miners are in
[2:50:36] their early 80s that forge this river
and go up to their mines. So, and then
[2:50:42] so on the way back we were talking about
um Highway 30 in the trash and Luke
[2:50:47] right now is in talks with the prison
and getting that agreement back in place
[2:50:53] with the prisoners to clean it up. Um
there was a few questions. I called the
[2:50:58] sanitary service while we were in the
vehicle together. Stephen got back to um
[2:51:04] to both of us and so that's moving
forward. The the road department is
[2:51:08] going to provide the safety signage
saying that there's work going on and
[2:51:14] the bags and um then there was a
question of disposing and it and then I
[2:51:20] left that with Stephen and Luke of
disposing the full bags to the
[2:51:25] » Yeah. And typically there's not a fee
for that either, Stephen says.
[2:51:27] » Correct. Correct. So that's and that was
that was part of our discussion. So that
[2:51:31] we should be seeing that agreement very
soon and getting that done because that
[2:51:35] was a 10year span that that had that
agreement had lapsed.
[2:51:40] » Uh yeah, I talked uh shoot I can't think
of her name at the prison and she said
[2:51:44] that she was working with Luke and I
hadn't heard back from Luke and I hadn't
[2:51:48] checked on the disposal. So thank you.
>> Yeah. So, it just happened that we were
[2:51:53] in the car and he goes, "Oh, I have some
I have some questions about this."
[2:51:56] » Yeah.
>> Um, so, uh, uh, today I have, uh,
[2:52:01] several meetings, uh, with potential EDC
type stuff that that, uh,
[2:52:09] hopefully will happen within within the
county with different entities that I'm
[2:52:12] meeting with today. Um
uh and then uh I have powder base and
[2:52:20] TMDL tomorrow that's with all agencies
and that's a zoom
[2:52:25] » and then of course you you said the
natural resources and then going forward
[2:52:30] to for or the legislative on Monday
>> and then I have Bick in the Grand on the
[2:52:38] 13th and then the new directions the
14th we have the comp board
[2:52:45] 15th um TLT
and that's when the Court Street Plaza
[2:52:52] and one request from
>> um from Chris
[2:52:58] » Christopher
>> Christopher is going to be there. Um and
[2:53:03] then going towards our next meeting the
19th 20th
[2:53:09] um EDC is on the 20th and then we go
into our meeting and uh and then I have
[2:53:15] a partner meeting out there at the
chamber after our 20 our session on the
[2:53:20] 21st. So,
>> okay.
[2:53:22] » Um, I forgot to say we have a new
superintendent.
[2:53:26] » Oh,
>> and what's Tyler Clark?
[2:53:29] » Tyler Clark.
>> I don't know.
[2:53:30] » He came he comes up to the he was the
security officer
[2:53:33] » and he did so it's just now public. Um,
also just quick followup the dispatch
[2:53:40] agreement between for fees between
Pioneer and the county. Do we have that
[2:53:44] yet?
>> No.
[2:53:46] » Why not?
>> Who's doing that? Jason's work on Kim
[2:53:49] and I've heard of that.
>> And so then do we have the one the
[2:53:53] agreement between the city and the
pioneer for the ambulance?
[2:53:57] » Um I don't know
>> because you said you follow those two.
[2:54:01] Thanks.
>> Well, yeah, but the agreement between
[2:54:04] Pioneer and the city, doesn't it?
>> It does affect us because we are in
[2:54:07] charge of the ambulance district. So I
feel that we should have that on record.
[2:54:11] Well, when they get it done, I'll get a
copy of it, but I don't have any
[2:54:16] mechanism to push that to get it done.
It's between a private entity and
[2:54:20] another
>> practice because I think we should
[2:54:25] before they do anything, we should be
having that done
[2:54:28] » and we should have before we start
charging the fees, we should have that
[2:54:30] agreement in place as well.
>> Charging what fees?
[2:54:33] » The dispatch fees. We need to have that
in place before we start charging the
[2:54:37] fees July one. And then we need to have
the ambulance. We need to have that in
[2:54:42] place.
That's our
[2:54:47] there's two agreements that we need
right now with find it.
[2:54:49] » Yeah, we need to get it done.
>> But the one agreement hasn't got hardly
[2:54:54] anything to do with the county. It's
it's the backup for
[2:54:57] » but it does have to do with the county
because we are the people that are in
[2:55:01] charge of the ambulance,
>> right? So, it is in charge because we
[2:55:04] need to make sure that whoever has that
contract is doing it legally. If you're
[2:55:09] out there doing an ambulance, we need to
make sure that they're doing it under
[2:55:12] Pioneer, not on their own. And that's
why I feel that we need to have that,
[2:55:16] » right?
>> Why did the fire department come here
[2:55:18] when that incident happened?
>> They follow every ambulance. They do.
[2:55:23] They um I talked to Travis about that
and um
[2:55:25] » at this point because they wanted him to
just dispatch when it was severe. Mhm.
[2:55:31] » He says, "I can't make that call."
Right? You can't ask the dispatchers to
[2:55:34] make that call. So, they dispatch every
call.
[2:55:38] » Every people complain about it, but
everybody everywhere else in the world
[2:55:43] does it that way. So,
>> Oh, I I just that's up to the city. I
[2:55:47] just for me, if I had a tight budget,
>> because there's a lot of fuel on things
[2:55:52] like that. So, so
>> Okay.
[2:55:55] » Okay.
>> So, that's it. I'll move to a journ.
[2:55:58] » I'll make
>> All right. Second. All in favor say I.
[2:56:01] » I beat you.
>> Yeah. Did you have anything, Matthew?
[2:56:04] I'm sorry. We didn't
>> motion to adjourn. We are now adjourned.