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Ready?

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» I'd like to call call to order and
record record our quorum. We do have a

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quorum of four members. Thank you for
being here today. It's much appreciated.

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Um,
we have several business items, but

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before we get into that, we need to take
a look at the minutes from the last

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meeting, and they are attached.

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Whoever feels ready to uh make a motion
to uh

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» I make a motion to approve the minutes
of September 23rd.

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» Is there a second to the motion?
>> A second.

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» I second.
>> Having received a motion and a second,

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place it up for vote. All those in favor
signify please by saying I.

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» I
>> I

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>> I. Motion passes 40.

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Turn back to our agenda.

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The board will elect a chairperson and a
vice per chairperson from its members to

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serve a two-year term. I'll open the
floor up for that. Who would like to

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serve as our chairman again? Anybody

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have a nomination for the chairman?
>> Um, if I may, I'll nominate myself.

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» You nominate yourself? Yes. So, uh, Cal
Grady has nominated himself. Is there a

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second to his nomination?
>> I'll second.

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» And who the second come from? I'm sorry.
And who in what position are you nom

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nominating yourself chair or white
chair?

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» Just a a simple chair.
>> Neither neither.

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So my understanding is Kyle Grady has
self nominated himself and it's been

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seconded for chairman. Is that correct
Mr. Grady?

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» Yes, sir.
>> Okay. So, a motion has been made

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uh for Kyle Grady to be chairman and
um it's been seconded.

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I'll take the vote now. All those in
favor of appointing Kyle Grady as the

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chairman of the board of adjustment,
please say yay or nay.

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» Yay.
>> Okay, I hear yay from

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» yay. Richard Martinez.
>> Richard Martinez. Yay. The other yay was

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yay.
>> Yay. Mr. Ready?

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» Yes, sir.
>> Yay. Yay from you.

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» Let's make it a unanimous then. It's
yay.

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» Okay. So, it passes. So, sir, you are
now the chairman. Now, we're going to

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vote on the vice chairman. Since you're
the chairman now, you can take over at

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this time. Okay. Do you appoint for vice
chairman who would like to make their

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position known, please?
>> I'd make a recommendation for Lamar

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Gillian to be vice chair.
>> Lamar Gillian.

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» I accept I accept that nomination.
Thanks.

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» I second.
>> Motion's been made and seconded for

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Lamar Gillian as vice chairman.
It's your turn to take over the meeting.

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Yes. Call for a vote, gentlemen.
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» I

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now continuing on for uh register for
Nicholas

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um you say his last name
Nicholas

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Department of Community Development

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Mr. Grady, can I be recognized?
>> Yes, sir.

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» So, we're on number two.
Back to the agenda.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. Mr. Grady, for a moment. Um, for

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all of you, number two is the open
hearing that that Mr. Grady will open

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and then you can also call if there's no
one here to speak to the topic from the

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community you can call staff which Nick
is here to speak to topic as well. Then

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you'll hear the comments and then you
will close the hearing. Each time you

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open and close you need to state the
time.

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» Okay.
>> Number three, Mr. Grady and everyone

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you now open discussion about what you
heard. You do not discuss in number two,

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you discuss in number three. And the
three items that are on the agenda, each

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one is like that. So you'll have three
public hearings where you will hear

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information, you will close the hearing,
and then you open for discussion. So in

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that regard, number three goes with
number two, number five goes with number

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four, and number seven goes with number
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And you need to read all of what's on
number two. and then state the time and

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open the hearing. Mr. Grady.
>> Okay. So, I would say time is now 506

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and we'll be doing uh board will conduct
a public hearing to receive public

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comment for the citizens on the variance
application submitted by Albert Devila.

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A property located at 2910 Hillrest
Drive, Baloney Heights, Texas 7201.

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legally described a CB5894A
block one lot zoned O1

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lowrise office.
The applicant is requesting variances of

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section 150.28B
commercial business and sections

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153.3.4.2F

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side setback and a and 153 uh 342
G rear setback of city code EOA

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chairpersons. Uh we'll begin with an
open public hearing.

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» There was no one from the public here to
speak to that topic. So you may call

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staff.
>> Okay. Uh staff

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Nick the first one. We'll start on uh
slide 2910 Hill Press Drive.

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You got it. Great. And then we'll start
on property information.

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» Okay. Good evening, board. Glad we're
finally meeting after many months. Um we

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have uh three applicants tonight. Uh the
first one's going to be 2910 Hillrest

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Drive uh for Albert Davila of Davila
Electric. Um again, zoning is 01 lowrise

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office. Uh we've gone over the legal
description. And this is described as

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BCAP property ID 358171.
Next slide, please.

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So, we're going to have three different
variances that are going to be requested

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here. The first one's going to be
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commercial businesses. Um, this has to
do with the quantity of cargo containers

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located at the property. So currently as
ordinance reads um the you may store

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» is everyone on this page now?

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» Yes.
>> Uh quantity of cargo containers. So you

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may store maintain otherwise keep a
maximum of two cargo containers on a lot

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or property within a non-residential
zoning district. The cargo container

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must be placed on an approved surface
and the building official must approve

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its location. So, as you can see that
underlined section there, maximum two

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cargo containers is the requested
variance area where they're requesting

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um a relief to five cargo containers on
property. Uh the second requested

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variance is 153.4.2.
This is going to be off to the right

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hand side of that page. Um FNG, this is
going to be your setback table. Uh

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currently that setback table is set at
five feet from the rear and from the

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side. Um this just has to do with um you
know where these cargo containers can be

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placed in relation to that back fence
and that um sorry the rear of the fence

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and then the side of the fence. Uh five
feet is already you know well within

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distance but you know whenever you go
place they're not out there measuring

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you know so this is you know I believe
within four four and a half feet. So

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it's not really much change uh to what
that tabular form already is. Next

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slide, please.

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They're continuing on from that 150.28
commercial businesses and the tabular

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form. So, requesting a 4T and requesting
the five car containers. Next slide,

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please.

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So, just to go over this ordinance
intent. Um, this allows commercial

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property owners the ability to utilize
cargo and shipping containers as

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additional storage options for their
businesses without the financial

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investment of expanding or renovating
the permanent structure. Um, cargo and

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shipping containers should not adversely
affect the character of the

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neighborhood. Uh, this is pulled
directly from our municipal code of

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ordinances um from the u city plan 2040.
That's the intent of adopting this

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ordinance and the requested variances do
not affect the intent of it.

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This next slide you're going to see the
current placement of the shipping cargo

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containers. We have three uh directly
right behind the building that is not

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viewable from the rideway and then two
that are viewable from the rideway only

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if the gate is open which I believe most
of the business operating now that gate

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is closed. So um most if not all the
time all cargo shipping containers are

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not viewable from the rideway um or from
neighboring properties. They are um yes

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a little bit encroaching on that 5 foot
setback but you know by six inches max.

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we're not, you know, too close where
it's causing any fire hazards or

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anything like that. Scroll down, please.

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The third variance that is being
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This is going to be your ordinance
153.12.10,

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which oversees wall signs. Um, Hillrest
Drive is classified as a minor min minor

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arterial, excuse me. Uh, but any 01
zoned uh office on Hillrest Drive is

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considered the Hillrest District where
there is no authorized signage allowed

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there. As you can see, if this was just
the minor arterial that we're looking

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at, um, it's allowable up to 80 square
feet. Next slide, please.

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The proposed sign that they're wanting
is only 36 square feet. Nowhere near

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what would be um encroaching on the 80
square feet. That's maximum allowable on

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Hillrest Drive. Um anywhere else that is
not 01 zoned area

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before you go. There you go. Off to the
right there. That is the proposed sign

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that they're going to be using um on the
wall there just to identify their

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business and proponent will promote a
little bit more visibility there and

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establish them as a sense of place
because there's not really much signage

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on location right now. Scroll down
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There's going to be a loose placement of
the sign. Um I believe the sign has been

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with their business for many years now.
I think that they brought it from the

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previous location before they relocated
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Slide please.
So ordinance intent for uh signage here.

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So city recognizes the safety,
commercial, emergency and information

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needs for signs. This article has been
adopted to protect the health, safety

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and welfare of the citizens by
regulating the location, construction,

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duration, size, height, installation and
maintenance of all signs within the

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jurisdiction of the city in accordance
with LGC article 216. Additionally, this

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article is intended to enhance property
values, maintain aesthetic

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attractiveness, and promote commercial
opportunity in the city, and support and

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further the objectives of the city's
comprehensive master land plan. I

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underlined that last section there
because the requested variances for this

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wall sign is clearly aligning with the
intent of why this ordinance was

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adopted. It's not straying away from and
it's not causing any harm to

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neighborhood characteristics or anything
like that. There's no issues with

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safety. um emergency uh needs and this
just promotes the commercial needs for

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this business.
Next slide, please.

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So, with all these public hearings,
we're required to send a 200 foot um

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public hearing notice to any uh
residents, commercial, businesses that

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are within that range. Uh we received
one response that was not including your

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packet because it was received after the
the packet was due here. Uh we received

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one in favor of the change. U this is
from the property owner of 2922

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Hookrest. Rest of the properties that
these were sent out to were

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non-responsive. Um they do not oppose or
in favor of the change. So we have one

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in favor of this change. Uh
recommendation is shipping containers.

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Um well one to approve the variance for
shipping containers, but they do not

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adversely affect the character of the
neighborhood and do not pose a fire

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hazard or risk or anything like that.
aligns with the intent of the ordinance

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and helps support this business. Same
thing with the wall sign is my

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recommendation is to approve this
variance clearly aligns with enhancing

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the character of the neighborhood helps
promote this business falls in line with

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the full intent.

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Okay. So as of now
there's any further questions or

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comments. The Time is 5:15. We'll begin
closing.

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Anyone with public comments?
>> No, just staff.

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Okay, then we'll begin closing public
hearing and move on to

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now
we'll be considering the act the board

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will be considered we'll consider an
active variance application submitted by

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Albert
for the property located at 29

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1 Hill drive 721 requesting variances of
section 15

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commercial businesses
Section 15

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to F side setback
4 to DG rear set. Apologies rear setback

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of code city code UA chair.

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» If you have any questions I'm more than
happy to answer them. We also have the

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business owners here. You may sir, go
ahead. [clears throat]

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» I have a question.
>> Microphone is

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» Yes.
>> This uh

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original application
was submitted October the 29th, 2025.

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» Correct.
And when I read some of the

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requirements
to reapply,

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I um no appeal under this article should
may be filed by the same applicant

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within 365
days of the date filed upon which the

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board denied such appeal. Are you
familiar with that?

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» I'm familiar with that. This uh appeal
has not been denied. They never had a

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hearing in October.

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There's a denial letter right here.
>> That's a denial for a permit. That's

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that's the prerequisite for them to
apply for the board of adjustments.

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» This first application to the building
department um if it does not fall within

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the municipal
>> for the shipping for the shipping

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containers.
>> Yes.

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and and and this uh denial letter,
you're telling me he did not come before

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this board in request?
>> He has not come before this board. I

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don't believe this board has met since
July or August of last year.

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In order to apply for a hearing with the
board of adjustments, they need a denial

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letter from the building department that
they were not allowed to uh pull their

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permit. That is a denial letter there
that I've included in your packet that I

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filled out, not the board.

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» Great. September 23rd was the last
meeting.

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» It's It's confusing.
It's it because I'm clearly reading it.

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Thank you for submitting the car
container permit application for the

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commercial property. After reviewing
your application, we get to inform you

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the permit is denied.
>> Correct. They apply for the permit with

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the building department, not with the
board of adjustments. They cannot come

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before the board of adjustments without
a denial that they cannot pull that

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permit. The reason that they're seeking
the request for a variance is because

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they were unable to pull a permit under
the current code.

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So any there's going to be denial
letters for all the applicants tonight.

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That's the prerequisite to be here
tonight for a hearing.

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» All right. Thank you.
>> Any other question?

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» Anyone ever had anyone have questions?
>> Again, the property owners are here if

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you have questions for them.
>> Yes, of course. Of course. Uh we would

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like to hear um Um

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time is 5:19. Upon request, um I would
like to hear the property owners. You be

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so kind. They will step forward.
>> Mark,

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» thank you.

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» Go ahead.

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» Mark Electric.
What questions do you have?

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Do we have copies of the neighboring the
neighbors the

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acceptance or denial?
>> The in favor or against?

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» Yep.
>> I have one year that was submitted.

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That's why it's not in your packet.
Would you like to see it?

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» Yeah. I mean, it's 93 pages or so here.
I I I can't find it.

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All right. Thanks.

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» I just want to
>> Mr. Chairman, may I speak?

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» Yes, of course, sir. Thank you very
much.

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» Mr. Mr. Gillan, do you mind if I say one
thing really quick?

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» Of course.
>> So, in your packets as well, I've

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included a list of all property owners
within 200 ft. This is what it gets

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mailed out to. This is before every
presentation. So, everybody receives

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this letter. The page right after the
addresses of anybody within 200 feet is

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going to be the public notice that is
sent out. Everybody gets this public

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notice within 200 feet of those property
owners. If I don't receive anything,

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then it's, you know, they're not against
it and they're not in favor of it. The

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only one that we have recorded for this
one is one in favor. Nobody against the

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variances that are requested today.
If I do receive it before applic the

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packet's due, it will be included in
your packet. But if not, then I'll just

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bring it like I did tonight.
Thank you, Mr. Geller.

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Mr. Dala,
I I do have the floor, right?

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» Yes. Yes.
>> Mr. Dava, hello again. Uh on the on the

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Con containers, the presentation we had
said there the setback was going to be

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four feet for some of them and three
feet for the others. Is there reason is

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there a reason why you can't accommodate
the five foot? I believe five foot is a

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is a city standard. Is there a reason
why you can't make four five and 35? So,

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when they were first dropped off, um
they again they're not measured when

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they're dropped off a giant trailer. So,
we were trying to get as close as

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possible as we could to the five foot.
Um at this point, they're full of

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equipment. They're full of scaffolding.
They're full of

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everything. They're full. So, the only
issue would be moving all the vans out,

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moving the the curbs for the vans out of
the way, unloading all the trailers,

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hiring someone to come and and move them
that extra half foot or foot. So, it

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would just be an additional expense that
I was hoping to be able to avoid.

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» If if I may continue, uh, uh, what kind
of fencing do you have around the

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property?
>> It's an 8ft wood fence.

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» 8 foot wood fence.
>> Yes, sir.

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» Con those ConX containers probably will
not be visible. Is that correct?

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» They're 8 foot tall. No, sir. They're
not visible from

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» Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.

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If
>> I could just provide a little background

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information, Mr. Davila was given a
verbal response uh that there was no

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permits required for a cargo container.
Um, which is why they're placed on

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property right now before a permit was
issued. Um, this was prior to me taking

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over the position for permanent. So, uh,
he would not have moved forward without

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that verbal confirmation from the
department who was here before me. So,

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um, but here we are on the situation.
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» thank you.

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» I have a question. Is this a a two-part
one for shipping containers and one for

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a sign? The same
>> correct? Okay.

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Um,
I haven't heard anything about the sign

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yet, but I I I'm going to make a motion
to approve the shipping containers

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» if that's appropriate.
>> If I may.

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» Yes.
>> I'm I uh second that motion.

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» For a vote to approve.

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Hi.
>> Hi.

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» Hi.
>> Hi. Motion carries.

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» I'm gonna have Roy pull back up the sign
here. Let me scroll up here. There we

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go. Right there. Fantastic. So, um, one
more, please. Actually,

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uh, no. Back up. Back up. Back up.
Fantastic. Right there. So, um, part of

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the variance is right. So, the shipping
containers recovered one. Uh, wall sign

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was the other one. 153.12.10.
Um, so I just want to reiterate here,

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uh, Hillrest Drive is a minor arterial.
Any minor arterial in the city that is

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not part of the Hillrest District is
allowed to have an 80 square foot sign.

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Hillrest District is considered 01
property, 01 zone properties along

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Hillrest Drive where there is no
authorization of wall signs in that

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area. Scroll down, please.
The sign that they're proposing is 36

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square feet, less than half of what
would be allowed in any other area for

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uh along a minor arterial. Scroll down
one more. And then here is just the

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proposed location. That is not two size.
That is just me drawing a circle on the

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picture there. So please don't take that
to scale. Um I think it's pretty close

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though. Great. Fantastic. So we're
taking very little uh area of that front

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facade there.
I just um Joe included in your packet

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the ordinance for board of adjustments
and how we make decisions for these

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variances. Um I just want to go over
that one time really quickly. Um they

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need to uh provide hardship um as to why
we're approving these variances, right?

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That y'all made that decision for the
shipping containers already. Um it is a

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hardship for these 01 zone properties
not able to advertise their business in

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the the means that they're allowed to
right. Um it is selective to uh

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discriminate against the 01 properties
here in the Hillrest district. This

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fully meets the criteria and and that is
why I'm providing the recommendation

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that we should be approving this
variance for the wall sign. That is less

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than half of what they would be
allowable um in any other minor arterial

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section of the city.

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If you have any questions, please let me
know.

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» May I be recognized?
>> Yes, sir.

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» Would you back up uh to the first
picture? We saw that sign there. There

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it is. Del Electric. Okay.
Um,

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it it definitely does not violate the
area of signage, but because it's in a

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non-residential
area,

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it they have to come before before us.
Am I understanding that correctly?

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» They they have to come before the board
because they're in a

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» uh unique district. So any of those 01
zone properties like I talked about are

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considered the Hillrest district where
there's no wall signage allowed.

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» That that's the reason.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah.
>> So if they had any other zoning along

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Hillrest or if they were one of the
apartments or closer here to the justice

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center, they'd be allowed to do this.
But just those last couple properties

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along Hillrest are not allowed to have
the signage.

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» So as I understand it, the the uh only
problem with moving out on this sign is

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where it's located on that street. it
correct. It is the how the property is

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zoned.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.

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» You got it.
>> Appreciate that.

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» And then Mark, can you do me a favor?
Can you tell me how long y'all had that

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sign?
>> Uh that was on our original shop. We've

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had it for at least 20, maybe 30 years.
We had it built years and years and

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years back, and we're just hoping to
keep on using the same sign everyone's

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used to seeing. Okay. Thank you.

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Uh we will begin voting for the approval
of the sign now. All in favor?

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» Motion to approve.
>> No, you need to call for the motion.

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» Oh yes. Uh call for the motion.
Call for the approval of the motion of

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the sign as right now as of 529.
All in favor?

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» Just call for the motion without guiding
them to approve.

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» Call for a motion.

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I make a motion to approve.
>> I second.

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» Okay. Third.
I approve.

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» Excuse me. Excuse me. After you get the
approval of the motion, you call for a

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vote on a motion. And did I did I not
hear that?

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» My apologies. Um, call for a vote.
>> There you go.

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» Thank you.
>> I

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» I
>> I

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» I motion pass.

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Great. Thank you all. So, um,
we'll get permits

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» this week and then y'all are good.
>> I'd like to thank the board for their

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time. Appreciate that.
>> Thank you, sir.

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The time is now 5:30 and we'll begin
today. The board will be conducting the

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public hearing to receive public
comments for the citizens on variance

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applications submitted by Lewis Espinar
for properties located on at 610, 612,

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614, 618, 620, and 622 on Gentleman
Road, Balcony Heights 7201.

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Legally described as CB 5894, lot G3G.
Uh count uh country gentleman states uh

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subsidiary CB subdirectory
CB 5894 lot 3H country gentleman estates

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subd CB5894
lot 3J uh country gentleman establish

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subd CB5894
block 3 M country gentleman estabates

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subd CB 5894

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Country Gentleman Estates Subdoman

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estates subd zoned R five townhouse
residents. The applicant is requesting

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variances of section 153 31 53
uh C and 153 315

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3E of
chapter chapter 8 of the city code.

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We'll begin with an open public hearing.
>> There's no citizens signed up to speak.

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You may call for staff. Okay, call for
staff permits.

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» Okay, we'll have another presentation
here. Um, let me just give a little

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background. I failed to do that in the
last one. So, um, Mr. Espinar here, um,

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over there, uh, submitted an application
to renew two variances. These are two

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variances that were granted back in
2021. This is for the properties located

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at 610, 612, 614, 618, 620, and 622
Gentleman Road. that has six uh zone uh

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R5 zone properties uh here along
Gentleman Road. That's going to be the

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the one vacant lot that you see when you
drive down off to the left behind

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Chick-fil-A there. Uh the request of
variance renews uh renewals would allow

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the proposed residential development to
proceed without modifying the existing

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utility configuration which Mr. Espanar
has spent quite a bit of money making

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sure those utilities were put there. Uh
and as reducing it will also uh let me

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back up here
proceed without modifying the existing

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utility configuration or reducing the
number of proposed dwelling units with

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the current configuration for the
platting of that property. Uh the

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application the applicant has also
requested a waiver of a variance renewal

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fee for the board's uh consideration
here. Um you can request a waiver of

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fees if it is a renewal. Um that is the
the only criteria there if it's renewal.

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So again these were granted back in
2021. Um he's looking for renewal of

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those two variances. Variances do expire
after one year if there is no movement

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on that variance that was granted. Can
you pull up the presentation please?

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Not the email. Not the email. The PDF.

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Keep going down. You got it.
Long ways down there.

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Fantastic. Again, this is for 610
through 622 Gentleman Road, all even

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numbered properties. Scroll down,
please.

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Um, without reading all those legal
descriptions again and all the property

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IDs, I think we understand that this is
uh 610 through 622 Gentleman Road, R5

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Townhouse Residences.

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So, just to provide a little context,
here is the current site along Gentleman

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Road um on your your screens in front of
you. Um the left is going to be an

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aerial view. Uh the right is going to be
a street view from Google Maps there.

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I don't have an exact timeline of how
long that's been vacant. Um Lewis can

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give a better answer here later on when
y'all call them up for questions. Scroll

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down, please.
So, the variance variances requested

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here. Um the first one's going to be
153.3.15

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3C site requirements. And again, my the
the outlining is going to be the

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important information that we're looking
at here, what they're requesting

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variances uh from within that ordinance.
So, first one is C. All parking lots,

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stalls, or garage entrances for town um
townhouse units shall be accessible from

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the rear of the property by alleys or
internal drive aisle accessing the rear

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of the unit. In so far as practable
practable

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practable, I can't get it. Exterior off-
streetet parking facility shall be

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grounded in bays at the interior blocks.
No off- streetet parking space shall be

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more than 100 feet by the most direct
pedestrian route from a door to the

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duelan unit it is intended to serve. So
the requested area variance is rear

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access uh for parking there. Uh the next
request is 153.3.153E

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design requirements and this is garages
and parking areas shall not be

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emphasized along street frontages. Uh
attached detach garages in the rear yard

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with access to midblock streets or
private shared driveways along the rear

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of the property are preferred. And that
underlying area is the area that we're

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going to be looking at. uh the way that
he has his layout right now is going to

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be um front access for the vehicles, not
rear access. Uh given the size of this

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property, there's just no feasible way
for us to to force him to have any rear

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access for these vehicles. If so, then
you're limiting the amount of units that

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he's able to put on that property in
addition to um

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changing up the utility designs right
now where there's existing water, uh

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sewer, and electric for all six of those
properties configured for this internal

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front access for vehicles. Scroll down
to the next slide.

426
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:29,839
This is a loose configuration of layout.
Um, so those six um squares, the blue

427
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:34,400
and the red squares on the left are
going to be how those houses, not to

428
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,200
scale. Please note that's not to scale,
but how they will be aligned. Um, you're

429
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,359
going to see that long kind of
rectangular area between those squares.

430
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,880
That's going to be your driving access
aisle where the vehicles would drive

431
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,640
through that little alleyway and be able
to access their garage through the front

432
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,440
of their home, not the rear of their
home. on the right again is going to be

433
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,920
that uh aerial view of the property.
Scroll down, please.

434
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:09,839
So, just going back to the ordinance
purpose, right? Um this is 153.3.15

435
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:14,079
R5 town houses. I've highlighted those
green areas because this is where we're

436
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,079
kind of aligning where this variance is
and how it falls in line with the

437
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,720
current ordinance. So the intent aligns
with ensuring location and design

438
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,200
standards are compatible with the
surrounding property which this does

439
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:30,079
satisfy the need. Uh make efficient,
economical, comfortable and convenient

440
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:34,079
use of scarce land and open space uh
resources. This does it is an infill

441
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,800
property that we're trying to make sure
is redeveloped. Um there has to be

442
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:44,320
unique creative ideas to uh be able to
place housing here which Mr. Espanar has

443
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:49,119
uh been able to do. um and then serve
the public purpose of increasing density

444
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:54,000
by providing an alternative uh to
conventional arrangements of yards and

445
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:59,599
building areas which this needs to. Uh
this property is uh well below an acre.

446
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Um it is fitting the need for density
right it is fitting six uh houses there.

447
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Uh there's no change on um lot minimum
size which it is going to meet the need

448
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:16,480
for. It is just changing up the um
access for those cars there. Next slide

449
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,440
please.
Excuse me. Once we start looking at our

450
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,359
city plan uh 2040 here uh permitting
these variances addresses issues

451
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:30,400
identified um and all these issues are
identified by residents, right? Uh that

452
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,000
um
table on the right that you see, these

453
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,320
are all answers that were provided by
residents back in 2022, 2023, addressing

454
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,880
the strengths, the weaknesses, the
threats that this community is facing.

455
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Um it's addressing aging housing stock.
We're able to get six new homes in this

456
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,760
community. Uh population decline, right?
We're making sure that it is a a dense

457
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:57,520
area or a denser area. um where we're
making sure more uh residents move into

458
00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,839
the area and it's satisfying the the
need of there being a lack of inventory.

459
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:07,280
Right? Uh there are two different areas
that are zoned R5 town home, but there's

460
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,960
no town home places here in the city,
right? So, we're making sure we're

461
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,407
satisfying all these needs that were um
identified by our residents.

462
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Next slide, please.
>> [clears throat]

463
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,839
» Before I go into the recommendation, I
just want to say this is another

464
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:28,640
property where we send 200 foot notices
to. I received no written uh notice of

465
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:32,320
in favor or opposed. I did receive one
phone call that um they are not opposed

466
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,640
to the changes and this is from the
property owner of Chick-fil-A. Um this

467
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,760
is the one uh directly behind this
property. They have no issues with

468
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:44,320
whatever variances are being requested
here. Um again the recommendation here

469
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,280
is going to be approve the renewal of
both variances. Right? The board has

470
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,280
already made a decision before to
approve this in the past. Uh the request

471
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,640
of variances do not adversely affect the
neighborhood character or the intent of

472
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,480
the ordinance which is very important
here. Uh the approval of variance will

473
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,960
also strengthen and address goals that
have been outlined by the community

474
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,839
input in the city plan 2040.
That'll be the end of my presentation.

475
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:20,480
So uh to receive
it to receive the public comment is

476
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:27,560
Lewis Espinar here today to speak? Yes.
Please

477
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,560
please step over to the mic. Thank you.

478
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Good evening. This is Louis Eser. I'm
open for any questions.

479
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:51,440
» Lewis, do do you have anything do you
want to provide to them before they ask

480
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,320
any questions? Any background
information that that I didn't cover for

481
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,400
you?
>> No, I think you covered it all pretty

482
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:02,880
well. It's it was originally designed to
to get started and if you look at the

483
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:07,359
dates that we kind of tackled this co
hit shut everybody down for about a year

484
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,359
and a half and banks changed their minds
on a lot of stuff. So, I've been I've

485
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:17,520
been holding it because I know it's a
great location for medical center and

486
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:24,640
that's how I see the city of about is a
medical center uh draw um where you're

487
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:30,319
so close to a well what I what I'm
seeing is a revitalization of the med

488
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:37,040
center also with new buildings
businesses new colleges u all kinds of

489
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:41,359
good stuff happening. So, uh, my my
intent was to build six town homes for

490
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:48,440
people that wanted to live in the area
that used the medical center, nurses,

491
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,440
doctors, whatever that may

492
00:41:51,839 --> 00:42:00,960
Then we need to close.
Anyone else have any other comments?

493
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:06,680
So
542

494
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,680
in the public hearing

495
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,280
motion to vote.
>> You need to read the next.

496
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,880
» May we have a discussion among the
members?

497
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:22,160
» Uh yes.
You need to

498
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:25,280
number five goes along with number
four.

499
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:30,800
» My now that you've closed it, you need
to read to the board number five and

500
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:34,720
then you can open it for discussion.
>> Okay. My apologies. Board will consider

501
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:40,319
the act of variance applications
submitted by Louis Spinar for the

502
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:45,760
properties located at 610, 612, 614,
618, 622, and 622 Gentleman Road,

503
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:51,280
Balcony Heights, 78201,
Texas requesting variances of sections

504
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:59,520
1528B, commercial businesses, and
sections uh sections section 153 3153 C

505
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:04,000
and 153153
E.

506
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,960
of city code and the request of waiver
fees overbearances renewal.

507
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:17,440
» Excuse Mr. G. Can I be recognized? Uh
Nick, this may be more of a question

508
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:24,160
towards you regarding the renewal of the
variances. Um are these fees that were

509
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:30,000
discussed to be propos uh proposed you
wave are these uh items going to be

510
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:33,280
brought up in another year if there's no
further development on property on

511
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,400
gentlemen?
>> If Mr. Espanard does not move on the

512
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,040
granted variance if y'all grant it and
it expires after another year and he

513
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:45,760
wants to come back and ask again then it
will it will probably be brought up

514
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:54,400
again.
>> Okay. And uh second once um you know Mr.

515
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:58,800
Espinard develops a property uh this
variance is no longer an issue as

516
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000
there's going to be existing property on
that site.

517
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,040
» Correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Once the the variance is is

518
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:07,839
granted and he's acted on it and
developed his property then it is set in

519
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,480
stone.
>> Okay. Thank you.

520
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:22,680
Turn on your mic.
>> Whenever it's red, it's on.

521
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Sorry about that. Yeah, the properties
develop utilities

522
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:44,680
sewer and water impact
ready. I get this

523
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,680
forward done within the

524
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,520
» Let me just clarify a little further.
The second he gets a permit, he's acted

525
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,680
on the variance.
>> Understood. That's Thank you for

526
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,319
clarification.
>> Y

527
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:04,400
» may be recognized.
>> Yes, sir. Um, I'm looking

528
00:45:02,561 --> 00:45:09,280
[clears throat] back to the part of the
handout to the days of November 19th,

529
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:14,319
2021
when uh

530
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:22,640
a request for
relief from our codes was issued

531
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:28,400
and uh are the
the appeal for

532
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:33,440
this time. Is it the same? I think one
of them is the same. That's uh the

533
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:37,280
parking lots. Are they the same as the
ones that expired or do we have a new

534
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,000
one in here that I'm
>> No, no, they're they're going to be the

535
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,520
same. They might be numbered a little
different if if the ordinance has been

536
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:45,200
amended over the past five or six years,
but

537
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,240
» it's the same request.
>> Thank you very much.

538
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,240
» You got it.

539
00:45:53,359 --> 00:46:01,440
Ask Mr. Grady ask for further
discussion. If not, you can call.

540
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:04,960
Anyone else who has comments or
thoughts?

541
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,920
» I'd like to be recognized.
>> Yes, sir.

542
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:10,960
» Make a motion to approve.
>> Motion second.

543
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,200
» I second.
>> Thank you.

544
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,560
» Call for a vote.
>> Yep. Call for a vote. Mr.

545
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:32,560
Hi.
Hi. Hey.

546
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,200
» Hi.
>> Yeah, I have it.

547
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:45,680
» Let me let me clarify really quick. You
need a warp person I to approve

548
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,680
the super majority for board of
adjustments.

549
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,200
I
unless you're saying that we need

550
00:46:52,720 --> 00:47:01,640
another individual or because since I'm
chairperson

551
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,640
» 3 31 will deny this variance request.

552
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,520
» Mr. Ready, would you like to ask Mr.
Sers if he wants to add

553
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,119
Mr. Gilling.

554
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:52,839
If there's any further clarification I
provide, let me know if you have

555
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,839
questions. If not, then

556
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:09,440
so the the requested variance it it is
the ordinance reads that for a

557
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:16,400
townhouse, they would need to access
their home with a vehicle at the rear of

558
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:16,400
their house. So the

559
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:24,359
Correct.

560
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,720
» Correct.
>> After

561
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:37,800
» if it's not acted upon, if Mr. Espanard
did not act on that variance back then.

562
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:49,920
» May I be recognized?
>> Thank you very much. Yes, Mr. Mr.

563
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:55,040
Sellers. [clears throat]
>> What has happened is they have run into

564
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,160
some problems. They may have been
financial or otherwise and they let this

565
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:07,359
variance that would you remember Miss
Slayen of course when she was here when

566
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Miss Slayen was here she um u process
the approval by the previous board for

567
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:21,359
him to go ahead that's why I asked the
question has anything changed from

568
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:29,920
the variances he was asking in 2021 to
now and and the answer I got from uh

569
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:33,359
Nick was that no, they have not changed.
>> There's no change.

570
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:40,000
» So the things that were approved in 2021
still are still needing to be reapproved

571
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:44,000
because you have one year to start your
project.

572
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Mr. Espanar's group did not get that
done for whatever reason, which in my

573
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:56,400
opinion is immaterial. Why he didn't
cash flow? I don't know. Whatever. So,

574
00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:02,640
he's coming back again
and asking us to approve his his uh

575
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:09,040
appeal.
And I strongly suggest

576
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:13,920
that you would reconsider
because this property is set vacant for

577
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:20,559
5 years. It was previously approved by
another council. It's a It's a good

578
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:27,119
project and it use it takes makes good
use of a limited space we have for

579
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:33,119
building. So, if you would reconsider,
we would ask that the chair call for a

580
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:37,680
vote again and see if we can move out of
this. I don't know. I probably violated

581
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:42,640
every rule in Robert's rules of order by
what I just did because I've never faced

582
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:48,880
this situation before. But I think we
have the authority to go back and ask

583
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,680
for review and a second vote. And I'll
leave that over to staff.

584
00:50:53,839 --> 00:51:04,400
Thank you, Mr. Mr. Gayen. Okay.
Okay. So, once again, so I would like to

585
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,800
make a motion to reconsider the previous
vote and call for a new vote and see if

586
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:14,920
we can get it passed.
>> Motion to approve. I believe Mr. Sers

587
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,920
has a question.

588
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:30,240
» I still don't know what we're here for.
Is it a driveway, a parking lot? Is it

589
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:33,440
access to the rear?
>> I'm going to bring up the

590
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:37,319
» I don't know what we're here for.
>> Bring up the the PowerPoint.

591
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:47,160
Yeah.
It's on the right.

592
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Yeah. Scroll up.

593
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,000
» Let's You know what? Let's stop right
here.

594
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,559
» Yeah.

595
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,599
ordinance does not

596
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:28,839
access.

597
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,599
sauce.
That's

598
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:40,200
Okay. So, what is different now that
this was voted on and passed five years

599
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200
ago?

600
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,640
Mr. Chairman, I think we have a motion
on the floor.

601
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:01,640
» Is there a second?
>> Second.

602
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:10,800
Motion to vote.
>> Call for the vote.

603
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:13,200
Okay. I vote vote I
>> I

604
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,800
vote
>> I

605
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:25,480
» I motion passes.
>> There's also action on his fees. Request

606
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,480
a waiver for fees.

607
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Anyone have comments on that? I'd like
to make a motion first and get it on the

608
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:45,480
floor for discussion. I make a motion to
uh wave the fees for this project. Okay,

609
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:45,480
» I second.

610
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:53,760
» Call for discussion. Call discussion,
gentlemen.

611
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:56,800
» Call for discussion.
>> Reapplication fee.

612
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:01,440
» It is a relication fee.
>> All right. Yeah. Yeah.

613
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,800
Second
already has a second.

614
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,760
Motion to vote.

615
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,520
» I I

616
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:22,599
thank you.

617
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:26,599
» Time is 5:55.

618
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:36,000
Okay.
Now on to the next item of business. Bo

619
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:39,359
will conduct a public hearing to receive
public comments from the citizens

620
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:45,280
regarding the variances. Variance
applications submitted by uh Jalan

621
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:50,079
Dodson. Apologies if I got your name
wrong. Executive signs for the property

622
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:59,520
located at 6700
Highway 10 west of Bummy Heights, Texas

623
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:04,640
7201. Legally described as CB5508D,
Methodist Texan Hospital, Watt 17RA,

624
00:56:03,463 --> 00:56:11,280
[snorts]
zone 02, high-rise office. The applicant

625
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,280
is requesting variances from sections
1531

626
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:23,280
17B
through D and 1531 1214B

627
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:30,160
through D of city code VA chair persons.
We will begin for an open public hearing

628
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:32,640
at 56.
>> There are no citizens to speak. You may

629
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:36,440
call staff.
>> Okay. Uh staff.

630
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:41,559
» Well, uh we're getting here.

631
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:52,839
One more.
Sorry. No, no, no. I'm talking other

632
00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:52,839
way.

633
00:56:53,280 --> 00:57:00,720
going
right there.

634
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:04,960
Yeah, I'm going to So, just to give a
little background here, um, Executive

635
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:09,839
Signs, who we have a representative for
on behalf of Methodist Texan, has

636
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:16,000
submitted a variance application for new
directional signs and new monument signs

637
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:21,839
at 6700 IH10 West. That is going to be
the main Methodist Texan here in in the

638
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:27,040
city off of the frontage road of I 10.
uh the prop proposed signage uh

639
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:32,000
currently um that they want exceeds the
height, the service area, and the

640
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:36,799
quantity limitations established by the
uh current code. Uh requested variances

641
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:40,799
would allow the installation of signage
to improve navigation throughout the

642
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:46,839
property for visitors and emergency
vehicles while enhancing the facil's

643
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:46,839
visibility and identification.

644
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:53,040
We're we're going to go um through the
entire packet that I have here for

645
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:58,319
y'all. Uh here's the permit uh denial
letter that we have uh filled out for

646
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:02,160
them. Uh as they apply for this signage
permit, we have to deny it based on what

647
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:07,440
is currently adopted. Scroll down,
please.

648
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:10,799
Keep going. Keep going.
They filled out their application of why

649
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:15,280
this is causing them. Hardships drop
right there. Fantastic. So, there's

650
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:19,440
about I I don't know the exact quantity.
Jacob can give a better uh answer here

651
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:22,960
whenever he comes up here for for
questions. But I'll go through quite a

652
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:27,280
few of these slides where this is going
to be the proposed signage that is

653
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:30,319
directional and monument. Um if y'all
take a look at your screens, you'll

654
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,440
you'll see quite a few of them and
whether they're existing and they're

655
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:39,359
going to be added or they're going to be
removed. um I'm sorry, existing and then

656
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,640
they're going to be be removed and add a
new one. Or if there's no existing sign

657
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:47,680
there and they're going to add a new one
in place of a vacant area. So here are

658
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:51,680
the proposed directional signs. There's
a couple different variations depending

659
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:56,640
on the direction or the placement of it.
Um scroll down please.

660
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:02,559
These all are going to be proposed at
six foot high. Scroll one click one

661
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:09,920
click up other way. There we go. Four
foot wide. So, 24 square feet, um, six

662
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:14,640
foot high signs. Scroll down, please.
Keep going.

663
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:17,599
Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.
You'll see that a lot of these look the

664
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:21,760
same. Stop on the ER one, on the red
one. Fantastic. Um, I just want to

665
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:26,240
reiterate that this is going to help
clarify visibility throughout the the

666
00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:30,240
Methodist Texan campus, right? Um the
last thing that you know we want or I'm

667
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:35,040
sure Methodist wants is for somebody to
not find the ER or whatever emergency

668
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:40,160
area that they're trying to locate um
there. So this is going to help provide

669
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:46,160
a lot of directional um overview to
anybody that's uh either visiting and or

670
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:49,440
um emergency vehicles that need to uh
find what area they're trying to

671
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:54,160
navigate to. Right. Um I did speak to
Methodist Texan earlier today. Uh they

672
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:58,400
did note that this is one of the only
hospitals in the San Antonio Bear County

673
00:59:56,319 --> 01:00:02,640
area that has the emergency department
at the rear of the building and not the

674
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,680
front of the building. Um so this uh
signage, the ER signage and a lot of

675
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,119
this monument signage, I'm sorry,
directional signage is important for

676
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:13,760
them to be able to navigate, provide
anybody that's uh there an ability to

677
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,319
find it when most people are used to
just driving to the front of the

678
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:21,599
hospital and being able to to find it
there. So we're kind of in a unique

679
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:24,799
situation here. Scroll down, please.
Keep going.

680
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,000
And again, you'll notice a lot of these
directionals are going to look the same.

681
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:31,240
Keep going.
Keep going.

682
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:44,960
Zoom in on that that uh right before
that one. Here you're going to see a lot

683
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:48,720
of the proposed signage placement
throughout the property. Um a lot of

684
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:53,680
them are directional. We have a few
monuments. Uh the ones that are denoted

685
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:59,280
as number one and number 13 along the
front are going to be the monuments.

686
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:03,040
Excuse me. All the rest of those signs,
those those yellow circles up there with

687
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:08,440
any other number besides one or 13 is
going to be your directional signs.

688
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Scroll down, please.

689
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Here is going to be the proposed change
to the monument sign. This is the

690
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:19,119
existing monument sign there. Uh again,
I talked to Methodist earlier today, the

691
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:22,000
director of facilities management. You
did note that, you know, the signage

692
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:26,480
hasn't been changed in 20 something
years. They're looking to to not only

693
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:32,000
freshen up the the signage, but they
have a very common issue with people

694
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:36,559
driving into this sign, right? It is not
easily viewable. There's only one ground

695
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:40,160
light that's facing this. So, it is a a
common issue that he has to deal with

696
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:45,440
getting replaced. And if you're not
familiar with monument signs, they're

697
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:50,319
they go from between 10,000 and probably
50 100,000. They're very expensive signs

698
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:54,480
to to constantly keep maintaining. Hold
down, please.

699
01:01:52,880 --> 01:02:00,880
There. Yep, there we go. Here is going
to be the proposed new monument sign.

700
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:05,599
Uh, if I can see it is 10 foot six high
and 8 foot wide. This is not only

701
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,400
providing more visibility from the
frontage road. Um, it's providing more

702
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:14,400
visibility from the highway, anybody
passing by, but it it's also internally

703
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:19,280
lit, which is going to provide more
visibility at night. uh hopefully and uh

704
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,880
probably prevent more people from
keeping running into the sign. Right.

705
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,799
So, there's two different proposed
locations for this sign. One that you

706
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,079
just saw that's going to replace the
existing and then one that's going to be

707
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:36,400
at a different area that doesn't have a
current sign, a monument sign in place.

708
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:40,160
Scroll down, please.
This one's going to be replacing the

709
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:44,680
existing at the main entrance along the
I 10 front road. Scroll down.

710
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:52,799
We're going to skip that one. Scroll
down. And this one's going, you got it.

711
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:57,599
This one's going to be added as a new
sign that is not currently uh have

712
01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:01,200
anything there, right? It's just an
empty patch of field, right? If you miss

713
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:04,160
that first entrance, this is going to be
your second one. We want to be able to

714
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:10,400
provide that visibility that way
nobody's missing their access into the

715
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:14,400
hospital. Go down, please.
Just to reiterate, here are the

716
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:18,240
locations for the signs. uh one and 13
are going to be your monuments. All the

717
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:23,760
rest of those signs there are going to
be your uh directional signs providing

718
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:28,640
navigation to any area of the facility
whether it be parking, the ER, any other

719
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:32,880
uh department they need to uh kind of
navigate to. Scroll down.

720
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:36,880
Fantastic. Let's get to our
presentation. Scroll down a little more.

721
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:40,480
So, property information. Uh Shon
Donsson was the one that um applied for

722
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:45,200
this for executive signs. We have Jacob
Dodson uh who

723
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:49,200
Can you remind me your position?
President. Fantastic. Even better. Um,

724
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:55,920
of executive signs here to speak on
behalf of Methodist Texan. Uh, address

725
01:03:52,000 --> 01:04:00,960
against 6700 IH10 West. This is one of
the only properties that's zoned O2

726
01:03:57,839 --> 01:04:07,280
Highrise Office. Um, our BCAP property
ID is going to be 1303200.

727
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:11,200
Go down, please.
So, we saw a lot of the pictures of the

728
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:15,119
current site. Um, here's what it looks
like for the monument sign areas. One

729
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:19,200
does not have a sign on it. Another one
has a sign that is within the

730
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:23,839
limitations of what the ordinance says
right now. I want to say it's probably

731
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:29,039
around 5T, 5'6, something kind of at the
max of what a mon size is allowed to be.

732
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:34,079
Hold on.
So, requested variances, we have quite a

733
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:39,359
few here. So, um, on our directional
signs, there's a maximum height of three

734
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:44,400
feet that is set by the ordinance.
They're requesting that their

735
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:50,880
directional signs be changed to six foot
in height. The maximum area uh currently

736
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:56,799
allowed is 12 square feet. They're
requesting it to be 24 square feet. And

737
01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:01,680
the maximum number of signs is one for
every 10,000 square feet of space. So

738
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:07,440
it's it's based on calculation. Um I
don't know the square footage area of

739
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:12,559
the hospital. Um, but I'm sure it's not
150,000 square feet. We're requesting 15

740
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,599
signs on property there. Um, again, this
is just to provide uh, you know,

741
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:23,280
directional enhancements to visitors
and, uh, emergency vehicles, KDN, EMS

742
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:27,520
services that need to be able to locate
services very quickly at the hospital.

743
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:32,000
The requested variances for monument
signs. Um, what's currently allowed is

744
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:37,760
going to be 5 foot six. They're
requesting that their signs be 10 foot

745
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:41,520
eight. Um the maximum area is that's
allowed currently is 50 square feet.

746
01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:48,240
They're requesting it to be 80 square
feet and there is a limitation of one

747
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:53,359
sign per frontage. Um so as you saw
there they're requesting two signs along

748
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:57,440
IH10 the frontage road there. One is a
pre-existing and then one is a vacant

749
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:02,920
area that serves as their secondary
entrance to the hospital campus. Please,

750
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:08,960
» just to go over signage again, here are
the two kind of main design layouts for

751
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:15,359
them. One is just a general navigation
sign and then one is very specific to

752
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:20,799
the ER for them.
Here's your your monument signage one

753
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:25,280
more time with um with
height and width, right? 108 and then

754
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:28,720
six foot wide. Um it is a much larger
sign, right? So, we're making sure that

755
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:33,200
we're allowing them the visibility for
people that need to locate the the

756
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:36,799
emergency services that Methodist
provides with ease. Right. And if you

757
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,160
missed this one, you want to be able to
access the second one. And there's

758
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:45,200
currently not assignment. Scroll down,
please. So, ordinance intent, it's going

759
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:50,160
to be the same as what we uh viewed
earlier for Dila's wall sign. Um, you

760
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:52,720
know, the we're recognizing the safety,
commercial, and emergency and

761
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:57,039
informationational needs, right, for the
signs. This is clearly falling within

762
01:06:54,799 --> 01:07:02,319
that within that intent that you know we
need to make sure emergency

763
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:06,240
andformational needs are satisfied right
and that's what they're requesting that

764
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:10,319
variance for. Um it's intended to
enhance properties uh property values

765
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,000
which this will right Methodist has a
very strategic plan to make sure that

766
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:18,799
they keep continually enhancing their
property and signage is just part of

767
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:23,520
that plan. Uh maintains the aesthetic
attractiveness which this does. It's a

768
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:27,119
very modern update. Um and it promotes
commercial opportunity not necessarily

769
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:31,920
commercial opportunity but you know um
enhancing to make sure those people come

770
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:38,240
and and view the hospital uh with ease
right it supports the objectives of what

771
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:42,799
our master plan has on
so I did not have any responsive

772
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:48,000
requests to this property right we sent
it to two 200 foot notice to everybody

773
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:53,119
within that area uh no phone calls no
responsive letters mailed back to me but

774
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:58,559
you This is something where there's
undue hardship to

775
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:02,319
a property that serves a more purpose
than most of our commercial properties,

776
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:06,880
right? It is a emergency service that is
provided to the city. It is an undue

777
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:11,520
hardship that's placed on them. Uh,
Methodist is explaining that this is a

778
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:16,400
compliance issue as well that emergency
vehicles need a certain limit, certain

779
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:20,480
requirement for their signage. So, these
emergency vehicles, EMS, fire, police,

780
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:25,920
whatever it is can access their property
and navigate with ease and it just helps

781
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:30,480
the visitors as they need to go there as
well. Um, so recommendation from staff

782
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:37,279
is to approve this variance for both
directional and monument signs. I think

783
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,279
that's my last slide, right?

784
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,080
So once we get into discussion, I'll be
happy to answer any questions.

785
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:55,600
» Is Mr. Shell and Dodson here with us?
>> Oh, yes. Oh,

786
01:08:53,279 --> 01:09:00,400
» so before we do that, you need to close
the public hearing state.

787
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:08,319
» The time is 609 and we're closing the
public hearing and begin receiving

788
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:12,080
public comments from Mr. Johnson
read yes

789
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:17,839
the board will consider an act of
variance applications submitted by

790
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:24,560
Johnson of executive signings for the
property located at 6700

791
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:30,880
highway 10 west heights Texas 7201
requesting variances of sections 150.2

792
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:35,759
commercial businesses and sections
153.127

793
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,759
BD and 15324
BD

794
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:51,040
was your name again sir Jacob Jacob
Dawson

795
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,040
mic

796
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,760
Jacob Johnson with Executive Science.

797
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:18,120
Anyone have any comments?

798
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:37,040
My concern would be
blocking the traffic, the view of the

799
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:42,080
traffic at intersections,
particularly on one and 13 when you're

800
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:47,840
pulling out in front of the access road
there.

801
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:53,600
It seems like
limited vision.

802
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:59,159
» Have y'all considered that?
>> Well, so are you talking about on the

803
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:59,159
front edge road of I 10,

804
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,719
» right?
>> That right there.

805
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,400
» Right.
>> Well, I mean the there's a setback that

806
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:08,800
goes up along the property line for the
signs to go with. So really the only

807
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,800
people that it would go is when they're
leaving, but it would be set back enough

808
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:16,960
where they can see shouldn't.
>> How far back would it be set back? Um, I

809
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:21,840
need to check to see how far we have it
set off, but the existing one is within

810
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:26,719
where it should be. And then the second
one would be at least that far back.

811
01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:31,920
Let me clarify a little further. Right.
So, um, we see the existing one right

812
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:35,920
there. Um, as you're pulling in, there's
no obstruction to view for that traffic

813
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:39,760
on the frontage road. Uh, the road
directly behind it is going to be your

814
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:42,960
exit road. Um, you can see oncoming
traffic. It's set back enough where

815
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,840
you're able to see, right? Let's go down
to that bottom one.

816
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:50,199
Maybe

817
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,199
is in the original.

818
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:04,520
» It was down.
>> Oh, did we skip it? Go. Go back the

819
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,520
other way.

820
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:18,880
that one more.
>> Yeah, there we go. That one. So, um,

821
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:24,199
this one's going to be your exit, right?
There. There's no need to view to the

822
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:24,199
right as your

823
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,000
or not.

824
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:36,040
Hey, Dave. Dave, turn to Michael.

825
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,600
Just worried about the

826
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:48,080
the view the sign blocking your view of
oncoming traffic as you're pulling out

827
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:53,920
on number nine.
>> This one I'm looking probably 20 25 foot

828
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,040
setback from the main road. So that's
what you're looking at on your left of

829
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,760
your screen there is going to be
crossroads

830
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:05,840
boulevard and then at the bottom of your
screen right there that's going to be

831
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:11,280
Denny Lane which is private access road.
It it's not set back very far from Denny

832
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:15,120
Lane but it not a city rightway street,
right? So, we can't really regulate that

833
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:18,800
setback crossroads. We're well within
the setback to make sure that it's not

834
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:23,040
obstructing any view there.
>> There's an existing sign there.

835
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:29,159
» There is an existing sign there. Yeah,
>> that's the only really questions I had.

836
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,159
All the concerns I had.

837
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:37,600
» May I be recognized? Of course, Mr.
Gillian. Go ahead. Uh, first of all, I'd

838
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:41,040
like to say Dave uh beat me to the gun
on that one because that was my concern,

839
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:48,320
too.
Line of sight to uh oncoming or crossing

840
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:51,840
traffic to the hospital to the hospital.
But after going back and looking at the

841
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:57,280
pictures again, it looks like line of
sight will not be a problem. We have

842
01:13:54,400 --> 01:14:02,719
more bushes in our city that block site
than this sign will ever do. Um, so I

843
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:09,040
think it's u I think it's going to be
okay. Um,

844
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:13,400
what we have to realize if we change if
we change this to six feet

845
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:21,360
it it's not a legal change of the code
but people will be asking for more

846
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:26,560
variances on it but I I don't think this
one this one in itself is a problem.

847
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Thank you.
I think there's maybe two or three

848
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:35,199
properties in the city that have
directional signs. Um Methodist being

849
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:37,760
one. Um and it's going to be your
drive-ins, right? Or drive-through,

850
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,199
sorry, drive-through restaurants. So
Chick-fil-A, that one's going to be

851
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:47,920
another one that has directional signs.
Um those are the only ones that really

852
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:51,199
provide any um desire or kind of need to
have them, right? But this, like you

853
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,640
said, Mr. Gill, this one's kind of a
little bit different of a situation,

854
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:59,440
right? It's a hospital where we're
serving those needs for um emergency

855
01:14:57,199 --> 01:15:02,960
services, not you know commercial needs.
Right.

856
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:07,520
» I have one more questions please if I
may.

857
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,480
» The sign the sign itself excuse my
voice.

858
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,692
» Yes sir.
>> I'm working outside today and a lot of

859
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,960
that pollen got in my throat.
[clears throat and cough]

860
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,880
» The sign itself is an inert sign. It's
not a video sign.

861
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,840
» No sir.
>> Is is it a lighted sign?

862
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,960
» It's it's internally lit. The two
monuments. Yes sir.

863
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,800
» Yeah. So it is a lit sign which you you
have to have at night anyway.

864
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:28,760
» Yes sir.
>> Thank you very much.

865
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,760
» Yes sir.

866
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,560
» May I have the floor?
>> Of course.

867
01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:42,280
» Lamar
just in response to

868
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:42,280
your concerns about other

869
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:50,560
uh future complaints.
I spent five years on planning and

870
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:58,000
zoning. The entire five years I spent on
planning and zoning was spent on signs.

871
01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Fortunately, I got out before the final
outcome.

872
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:11,040
Uh but it was a battle from day one as
to the location and the sign and the

873
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:19,520
size and it and it's a it's been an
ongoing issue forever

874
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:24,480
and it really needs to be revisited
and and I think a lot of variances

875
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:29,880
should be allowed.
With that said, I don't have a problem

876
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,880
with these signs.

877
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,000
May I be recognized?
>> Of course.

878
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:42,000
» I'd like to call a motion to call the
question.

879
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:48,239
» Second.
Call the motion to the question.

880
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:53,679
» We we have now no one person can call
the question without a vote of the

881
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:57,600
governing group. So, we need to go and
ask for a vote to call the question

882
01:16:55,440 --> 01:17:01,920
because what this does, for those that
don't know, it stops all discussion

883
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:08,040
about this particular item that's on the
agenda.

884
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,040
» So, my motion is to call the question.

885
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:19,520
» Motion to vote. Motion vote.
I'm going to make a motion to pass.

886
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:23,679
Yay.
>> Thank you. Hey.

887
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:34,719
passes.
>> Okay. Now you can call for a motion to

888
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:39,920
approve or disapprove because all
discussion has stopped.

889
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:46,080
» Motion to approve or disapprove.
>> Make a motion to approve.

890
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:49,360
» So make a motion to approve.
Second.

891
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,400
» Copy the vote.
>> Okay. Motion to vote. I thought we just

892
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,080
did.
>> Oh,

893
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,080
I'm I'm lost.
>> I thought we just voted on stopping the

894
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,120
discussion. And now we need
>> We need to have

895
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:06,880
» I'm the person that got lost. [laughter]
>> Now we need the motion to approve or

896
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:10,320
disapprove. And you have a motion on the
table to approve and and you just

897
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:16,080
second, I believe.
>> Yeah. Okay. My vote is yay. Okay.

898
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:19,480
» Yay. Yay.
>> And yes.

899
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:28,719
I've been so used to having everything
on record to make sure everyone hears

900
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:32,239
their part and go by the line. My
apologies.

901
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,840
» So you can uh call for adjournment
because you finished your book of

902
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:39,040
business.
>> Okay. So call for adjournment.

903
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:42,159
» Motion to approve to adjurnn.
Second.

904
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:46,239
» Second.
>> Yeah.

905
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,679
» We we have to vote on it. Okay.
>> Is a motion on the table? I

906
01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:54,120
» I
>> I The time is 6:19.