[0:00] Ready?
[0:13] » I'd like to call call to order and
record record our quorum. We do have a
[0:19] quorum of four members. Thank you for
being here today. It's much appreciated.
[0:25] Um,
we have several business items, but
[0:29] before we get into that, we need to take
a look at the minutes from the last
[0:32] meeting, and they are attached.
[1:32] Whoever feels ready to uh make a motion
to uh
[1:35] » I make a motion to approve the minutes
of September 23rd.
[1:41] » Is there a second to the motion?
>> A second.
[1:46] » I second.
>> Having received a motion and a second,
[1:52] place it up for vote. All those in favor
signify please by saying I.
[1:58] » I
>> I
[2:01] » I
>> I. Motion passes 40.
[2:06] Turn back to our agenda.
[2:10] The board will elect a chairperson and a
vice per chairperson from its members to
[2:15] serve a two-year term. I'll open the
floor up for that. Who would like to
[2:20] serve as our chairman again? Anybody
[2:30] have a nomination for the chairman?
>> Um, if I may, I'll nominate myself.
[2:37] » You nominate yourself? Yes. So, uh, Cal
Grady has nominated himself. Is there a
[2:43] second to his nomination?
>> I'll second.
[2:47] » And who the second come from? I'm sorry.
And who in what position are you nom
[2:52] nominating yourself chair or white
chair?
[2:55] » Just a a simple chair.
>> Neither neither.
[3:01] So my understanding is Kyle Grady has
self nominated himself and it's been
[3:06] seconded for chairman. Is that correct
Mr. Grady?
[3:10] » Yes, sir.
>> Okay. So, a motion has been made
[3:14] uh for Kyle Grady to be chairman and
um it's been seconded.
[3:20] I'll take the vote now. All those in
favor of appointing Kyle Grady as the
[3:25] chairman of the board of adjustment,
please say yay or nay.
[3:32] » Yay.
>> Okay, I hear yay from
[3:34] » yay. Richard Martinez.
>> Richard Martinez. Yay. The other yay was
[3:38] yay.
>> Yay. Mr. Ready?
[3:42] » Yes, sir.
>> Yay. Yay from you.
[3:44] » Let's make it a unanimous then. It's
yay.
[3:47] » Okay. So, it passes. So, sir, you are
now the chairman. Now, we're going to
[3:51] vote on the vice chairman. Since you're
the chairman now, you can take over at
[3:55] this time. Okay. Do you appoint for vice
chairman who would like to make their
[4:01] position known, please?
>> I'd make a recommendation for Lamar
[4:04] Gillian to be vice chair.
>> Lamar Gillian.
[4:07] » I accept I accept that nomination.
Thanks.
[4:19] » I second.
>> Motion's been made and seconded for
[4:23] Lamar Gillian as vice chairman.
It's your turn to take over the meeting.
[4:30] Yes. Call for a vote, gentlemen.
I
[4:36] » I
[4:51] now continuing on for uh register for
Nicholas
[4:57] um you say his last name
Nicholas
[5:03] Department of Community Development
[5:09] Mr. Grady, can I be recognized?
>> Yes, sir.
[5:12] » So, we're on number two.
Back to the agenda.
[5:21] » Okay.
>> Okay. Mr. Grady, for a moment. Um, for
[5:24] all of you, number two is the open
hearing that that Mr. Grady will open
[5:29] and then you can also call if there's no
one here to speak to the topic from the
[5:35] community you can call staff which Nick
is here to speak to topic as well. Then
[5:41] you'll hear the comments and then you
will close the hearing. Each time you
[5:45] open and close you need to state the
time.
[5:49] » Okay.
>> Number three, Mr. Grady and everyone
[5:53] you now open discussion about what you
heard. You do not discuss in number two,
[5:58] you discuss in number three. And the
three items that are on the agenda, each
[6:02] one is like that. So you'll have three
public hearings where you will hear
[6:06] information, you will close the hearing,
and then you open for discussion. So in
[6:12] that regard, number three goes with
number two, number five goes with number
[6:17] four, and number seven goes with number
six.
[6:22] And you need to read all of what's on
number two. and then state the time and
[6:27] open the hearing. Mr. Grady.
>> Okay. So, I would say time is now 506
[6:32] and we'll be doing uh board will conduct
a public hearing to receive public
[6:36] comment for the citizens on the variance
application submitted by Albert Devila.
[6:44] A property located at 2910 Hillrest
Drive, Baloney Heights, Texas 7201.
[6:49] legally described a CB5894A
block one lot zoned O1
[6:58] lowrise office.
The applicant is requesting variances of
[7:03] section 150.28B
commercial business and sections
[7:08] 153.3.4.2F
[7:11] side setback and a and 153 uh 342
G rear setback of city code EOA
[7:20] chairpersons. Uh we'll begin with an
open public hearing.
[7:25] » There was no one from the public here to
speak to that topic. So you may call
[7:28] staff.
>> Okay. Uh staff
[7:31] Nick the first one. We'll start on uh
slide 2910 Hill Press Drive.
[7:55] You got it. Great. And then we'll start
on property information.
[8:00] » Okay. Good evening, board. Glad we're
finally meeting after many months. Um we
[8:05] have uh three applicants tonight. Uh the
first one's going to be 2910 Hillrest
[8:09] Drive uh for Albert Davila of Davila
Electric. Um again, zoning is 01 lowrise
[8:16] office. Uh we've gone over the legal
description. And this is described as
[8:19] BCAP property ID 358171.
Next slide, please.
[8:30] So, we're going to have three different
variances that are going to be requested
[8:34] here. The first one's going to be
150.28B
[8:38] commercial businesses. Um, this has to
do with the quantity of cargo containers
[8:43] located at the property. So currently as
ordinance reads um the you may store
[8:53] » is everyone on this page now?
[8:57] » Yes.
>> Uh quantity of cargo containers. So you
[9:02] may store maintain otherwise keep a
maximum of two cargo containers on a lot
[9:06] or property within a non-residential
zoning district. The cargo container
[9:10] must be placed on an approved surface
and the building official must approve
[9:13] its location. So, as you can see that
underlined section there, maximum two
[9:17] cargo containers is the requested
variance area where they're requesting
[9:21] um a relief to five cargo containers on
property. Uh the second requested
[9:26] variance is 153.4.2.
This is going to be off to the right
[9:31] hand side of that page. Um FNG, this is
going to be your setback table. Uh
[9:36] currently that setback table is set at
five feet from the rear and from the
[9:40] side. Um this just has to do with um you
know where these cargo containers can be
[9:45] placed in relation to that back fence
and that um sorry the rear of the fence
[9:49] and then the side of the fence. Uh five
feet is already you know well within
[9:53] distance but you know whenever you go
place they're not out there measuring
[9:58] you know so this is you know I believe
within four four and a half feet. So
[10:01] it's not really much change uh to what
that tabular form already is. Next
[10:06] slide, please.
[10:10] They're continuing on from that 150.28
commercial businesses and the tabular
[10:14] form. So, requesting a 4T and requesting
the five car containers. Next slide,
[10:18] please.
[10:21] So, just to go over this ordinance
intent. Um, this allows commercial
[10:25] property owners the ability to utilize
cargo and shipping containers as
[10:28] additional storage options for their
businesses without the financial
[10:32] investment of expanding or renovating
the permanent structure. Um, cargo and
[10:36] shipping containers should not adversely
affect the character of the
[10:39] neighborhood. Uh, this is pulled
directly from our municipal code of
[10:42] ordinances um from the u city plan 2040.
That's the intent of adopting this
[10:48] ordinance and the requested variances do
not affect the intent of it.
[10:55] This next slide you're going to see the
current placement of the shipping cargo
[10:58] containers. We have three uh directly
right behind the building that is not
[11:03] viewable from the rideway and then two
that are viewable from the rideway only
[11:07] if the gate is open which I believe most
of the business operating now that gate
[11:11] is closed. So um most if not all the
time all cargo shipping containers are
[11:16] not viewable from the rideway um or from
neighboring properties. They are um yes
[11:22] a little bit encroaching on that 5 foot
setback but you know by six inches max.
[11:26] we're not, you know, too close where
it's causing any fire hazards or
[11:29] anything like that. Scroll down, please.
[11:36] The third variance that is being
requested has to do with wall signs.
[11:40] This is going to be your ordinance
153.12.10,
[11:44] which oversees wall signs. Um, Hillrest
Drive is classified as a minor min minor
[11:49] arterial, excuse me. Uh, but any 01
zoned uh office on Hillrest Drive is
[11:56] considered the Hillrest District where
there is no authorized signage allowed
[11:59] there. As you can see, if this was just
the minor arterial that we're looking
[12:04] at, um, it's allowable up to 80 square
feet. Next slide, please.
[12:09] The proposed sign that they're wanting
is only 36 square feet. Nowhere near
[12:13] what would be um encroaching on the 80
square feet. That's maximum allowable on
[12:17] Hillrest Drive. Um anywhere else that is
not 01 zoned area
[12:24] before you go. There you go. Off to the
right there. That is the proposed sign
[12:27] that they're going to be using um on the
wall there just to identify their
[12:31] business and proponent will promote a
little bit more visibility there and
[12:35] establish them as a sense of place
because there's not really much signage
[12:39] on location right now. Scroll down
please.
[12:43] There's going to be a loose placement of
the sign. Um I believe the sign has been
[12:47] with their business for many years now.
I think that they brought it from the
[12:51] previous location before they relocated
to Bakoney Heights.
[12:55] Slide please.
So ordinance intent for uh signage here.
[13:01] So city recognizes the safety,
commercial, emergency and information
[13:04] needs for signs. This article has been
adopted to protect the health, safety
[13:07] and welfare of the citizens by
regulating the location, construction,
[13:10] duration, size, height, installation and
maintenance of all signs within the
[13:14] jurisdiction of the city in accordance
with LGC article 216. Additionally, this
[13:20] article is intended to enhance property
values, maintain aesthetic
[13:23] attractiveness, and promote commercial
opportunity in the city, and support and
[13:27] further the objectives of the city's
comprehensive master land plan. I
[13:31] underlined that last section there
because the requested variances for this
[13:35] wall sign is clearly aligning with the
intent of why this ordinance was
[13:39] adopted. It's not straying away from and
it's not causing any harm to
[13:43] neighborhood characteristics or anything
like that. There's no issues with
[13:47] safety. um emergency uh needs and this
just promotes the commercial needs for
[13:52] this business.
Next slide, please.
[13:57] So, with all these public hearings,
we're required to send a 200 foot um
[14:02] public hearing notice to any uh
residents, commercial, businesses that
[14:08] are within that range. Uh we received
one response that was not including your
[14:12] packet because it was received after the
the packet was due here. Uh we received
[14:17] one in favor of the change. U this is
from the property owner of 2922
[14:22] Hookrest. Rest of the properties that
these were sent out to were
[14:25] non-responsive. Um they do not oppose or
in favor of the change. So we have one
[14:30] in favor of this change. Uh
recommendation is shipping containers.
[14:34] Um well one to approve the variance for
shipping containers, but they do not
[14:37] adversely affect the character of the
neighborhood and do not pose a fire
[14:41] hazard or risk or anything like that.
aligns with the intent of the ordinance
[14:44] and helps support this business. Same
thing with the wall sign is my
[14:48] recommendation is to approve this
variance clearly aligns with enhancing
[14:52] the character of the neighborhood helps
promote this business falls in line with
[14:56] the full intent.
[15:06] Okay. So as of now
there's any further questions or
[15:11] comments. The Time is 5:15. We'll begin
closing.
[15:17] Anyone with public comments?
>> No, just staff.
[15:23] Okay, then we'll begin closing public
hearing and move on to
[15:32] now
we'll be considering the act the board
[15:35] will be considered we'll consider an
active variance application submitted by
[15:39] Albert
for the property located at 29
[15:43] 1 Hill drive 721 requesting variances of
section 15
[15:51] commercial businesses
Section 15
[15:54] to F side setback
4 to DG rear set. Apologies rear setback
[16:03] of code city code UA chair.
[16:14] » If you have any questions I'm more than
happy to answer them. We also have the
[16:17] business owners here. You may sir, go
ahead. [clears throat]
[16:21] » I have a question.
>> Microphone is
[16:25] » Yes.
>> This uh
[16:29] original application
was submitted October the 29th, 2025.
[16:36] » Correct.
And when I read some of the
[16:42] requirements
to reapply,
[16:46] I um no appeal under this article should
may be filed by the same applicant
[16:52] within 365
days of the date filed upon which the
[16:57] board denied such appeal. Are you
familiar with that?
[17:01] » I'm familiar with that. This uh appeal
has not been denied. They never had a
[17:05] hearing in October.
[17:09] There's a denial letter right here.
>> That's a denial for a permit. That's
[17:12] that's the prerequisite for them to
apply for the board of adjustments.
[17:18] » This first application to the building
department um if it does not fall within
[17:22] the municipal
>> for the shipping for the shipping
[17:24] containers.
>> Yes.
[17:30] and and and this uh denial letter,
you're telling me he did not come before
[17:35] this board in request?
>> He has not come before this board. I
[17:39] don't believe this board has met since
July or August of last year.
[17:44] In order to apply for a hearing with the
board of adjustments, they need a denial
[17:49] letter from the building department that
they were not allowed to uh pull their
[17:53] permit. That is a denial letter there
that I've included in your packet that I
[17:58] filled out, not the board.
[18:07] » Great. September 23rd was the last
meeting.
[18:10] » It's It's confusing.
It's it because I'm clearly reading it.
[18:14] Thank you for submitting the car
container permit application for the
[18:19] commercial property. After reviewing
your application, we get to inform you
[18:23] the permit is denied.
>> Correct. They apply for the permit with
[18:27] the building department, not with the
board of adjustments. They cannot come
[18:31] before the board of adjustments without
a denial that they cannot pull that
[18:36] permit. The reason that they're seeking
the request for a variance is because
[18:41] they were unable to pull a permit under
the current code.
[18:47] So any there's going to be denial
letters for all the applicants tonight.
[18:50] That's the prerequisite to be here
tonight for a hearing.
[18:58] » All right. Thank you.
>> Any other question?
[19:04] » Anyone ever had anyone have questions?
>> Again, the property owners are here if
[19:10] you have questions for them.
>> Yes, of course. Of course. Uh we would
[19:14] like to hear um Um
[19:20] time is 5:19. Upon request, um I would
like to hear the property owners. You be
[19:26] so kind. They will step forward.
>> Mark,
[19:30] » thank you.
[19:33] » Go ahead.
[19:39] » Mark Electric.
What questions do you have?
[19:45] Do we have copies of the neighboring the
neighbors the
[19:52] acceptance or denial?
>> The in favor or against?
[19:57] » Yep.
>> I have one year that was submitted.
[19:59] That's why it's not in your packet.
Would you like to see it?
[20:01] » Yeah. I mean, it's 93 pages or so here.
I I I can't find it.
[20:40] All right. Thanks.
[20:55] » I just want to
>> Mr. Chairman, may I speak?
[20:57] » Yes, of course, sir. Thank you very
much.
[20:59] » Mr. Mr. Gillan, do you mind if I say one
thing really quick?
[21:01] » Of course.
>> So, in your packets as well, I've
[21:04] included a list of all property owners
within 200 ft. This is what it gets
[21:08] mailed out to. This is before every
presentation. So, everybody receives
[21:12] this letter. The page right after the
addresses of anybody within 200 feet is
[21:18] going to be the public notice that is
sent out. Everybody gets this public
[21:22] notice within 200 feet of those property
owners. If I don't receive anything,
[21:26] then it's, you know, they're not against
it and they're not in favor of it. The
[21:30] only one that we have recorded for this
one is one in favor. Nobody against the
[21:34] variances that are requested today.
If I do receive it before applic the
[21:40] packet's due, it will be included in
your packet. But if not, then I'll just
[21:43] bring it like I did tonight.
Thank you, Mr. Geller.
[21:52] Mr. Dala,
I I do have the floor, right?
[21:57] » Yes. Yes.
>> Mr. Dava, hello again. Uh on the on the
[22:00] Con containers, the presentation we had
said there the setback was going to be
[22:06] four feet for some of them and three
feet for the others. Is there reason is
[22:10] there a reason why you can't accommodate
the five foot? I believe five foot is a
[22:15] is a city standard. Is there a reason
why you can't make four five and 35? So,
[22:20] when they were first dropped off, um
they again they're not measured when
[22:24] they're dropped off a giant trailer. So,
we were trying to get as close as
[22:26] possible as we could to the five foot.
Um at this point, they're full of
[22:31] equipment. They're full of scaffolding.
They're full of
[22:34] everything. They're full. So, the only
issue would be moving all the vans out,
[22:40] moving the the curbs for the vans out of
the way, unloading all the trailers,
[22:45] hiring someone to come and and move them
that extra half foot or foot. So, it
[22:51] would just be an additional expense that
I was hoping to be able to avoid.
[22:55] » If if I may continue, uh, uh, what kind
of fencing do you have around the
[22:58] property?
>> It's an 8ft wood fence.
[23:01] » 8 foot wood fence.
>> Yes, sir.
[23:02] » Con those ConX containers probably will
not be visible. Is that correct?
[23:06] » They're 8 foot tall. No, sir. They're
not visible from
[23:08] » Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.
[23:13] If
>> I could just provide a little background
[23:14] information, Mr. Davila was given a
verbal response uh that there was no
[23:20] permits required for a cargo container.
Um, which is why they're placed on
[23:24] property right now before a permit was
issued. Um, this was prior to me taking
[23:30] over the position for permanent. So, uh,
he would not have moved forward without
[23:35] that verbal confirmation from the
department who was here before me. So,
[23:38] um, but here we are on the situation.
So,
[23:41] » thank you.
[23:48] » I have a question. Is this a a two-part
one for shipping containers and one for
[23:57] a sign? The same
>> correct? Okay.
[24:02] Um,
I haven't heard anything about the sign
[24:06] yet, but I I I'm going to make a motion
to approve the shipping containers
[24:14] » if that's appropriate.
>> If I may.
[24:17] » Yes.
>> I'm I uh second that motion.
[24:25] » For a vote to approve.
[24:29] Hi.
>> Hi.
[24:33] » Hi.
>> Hi. Motion carries.
[24:36] » I'm gonna have Roy pull back up the sign
here. Let me scroll up here. There we
[24:41] go. Right there. Fantastic. So, um, one
more, please. Actually,
[24:46] uh, no. Back up. Back up. Back up.
Fantastic. Right there. So, um, part of
[24:51] the variance is right. So, the shipping
containers recovered one. Uh, wall sign
[24:54] was the other one. 153.12.10.
Um, so I just want to reiterate here,
[25:00] uh, Hillrest Drive is a minor arterial.
Any minor arterial in the city that is
[25:06] not part of the Hillrest District is
allowed to have an 80 square foot sign.
[25:11] Hillrest District is considered 01
property, 01 zone properties along
[25:16] Hillrest Drive where there is no
authorization of wall signs in that
[25:20] area. Scroll down, please.
The sign that they're proposing is 36
[25:26] square feet, less than half of what
would be allowed in any other area for
[25:31] uh along a minor arterial. Scroll down
one more. And then here is just the
[25:36] proposed location. That is not two size.
That is just me drawing a circle on the
[25:40] picture there. So please don't take that
to scale. Um I think it's pretty close
[25:43] though. Great. Fantastic. So we're
taking very little uh area of that front
[25:48] facade there.
I just um Joe included in your packet
[25:53] the ordinance for board of adjustments
and how we make decisions for these
[25:57] variances. Um I just want to go over
that one time really quickly. Um they
[26:02] need to uh provide hardship um as to why
we're approving these variances, right?
[26:07] That y'all made that decision for the
shipping containers already. Um it is a
[26:11] hardship for these 01 zone properties
not able to advertise their business in
[26:17] the the means that they're allowed to
right. Um it is selective to uh
[26:23] discriminate against the 01 properties
here in the Hillrest district. This
[26:27] fully meets the criteria and and that is
why I'm providing the recommendation
[26:30] that we should be approving this
variance for the wall sign. That is less
[26:34] than half of what they would be
allowable um in any other minor arterial
[26:38] section of the city.
[26:43] If you have any questions, please let me
know.
[26:45] » May I be recognized?
>> Yes, sir.
[26:49] » Would you back up uh to the first
picture? We saw that sign there. There
[26:54] it is. Del Electric. Okay.
Um,
[26:59] it it definitely does not violate the
area of signage, but because it's in a
[27:07] non-residential
area,
[27:11] it they have to come before before us.
Am I understanding that correctly?
[27:15] » They they have to come before the board
because they're in a
[27:20] » uh unique district. So any of those 01
zone properties like I talked about are
[27:24] considered the Hillrest district where
there's no wall signage allowed.
[27:27] » That that's the reason.
>> Okay.
[27:28] » Yeah.
>> So if they had any other zoning along
[27:31] Hillrest or if they were one of the
apartments or closer here to the justice
[27:35] center, they'd be allowed to do this.
But just those last couple properties
[27:38] along Hillrest are not allowed to have
the signage.
[27:40] » So as I understand it, the the uh only
problem with moving out on this sign is
[27:47] where it's located on that street. it
correct. It is the how the property is
[27:52] zoned.
>> Yeah.
[27:53] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.
[27:56] » You got it.
>> Appreciate that.
[27:57] » And then Mark, can you do me a favor?
Can you tell me how long y'all had that
[28:00] sign?
>> Uh that was on our original shop. We've
[28:04] had it for at least 20, maybe 30 years.
We had it built years and years and
[28:08] years back, and we're just hoping to
keep on using the same sign everyone's
[28:12] used to seeing. Okay. Thank you.
[28:19] Uh we will begin voting for the approval
of the sign now. All in favor?
[28:24] » Motion to approve.
>> No, you need to call for the motion.
[28:27] » Oh yes. Uh call for the motion.
Call for the approval of the motion of
[28:32] the sign as right now as of 529.
All in favor?
[28:38] » Just call for the motion without guiding
them to approve.
[28:43] » Call for a motion.
[28:47] I make a motion to approve.
>> I second.
[28:51] » Okay. Third.
I approve.
[28:56] » Excuse me. Excuse me. After you get the
approval of the motion, you call for a
[29:00] vote on a motion. And did I did I not
hear that?
[29:05] » My apologies. Um, call for a vote.
>> There you go.
[29:08] » Thank you.
>> I
[29:11] » I
>> I
[29:12] » I motion pass.
[29:22] Great. Thank you all. So, um,
we'll get permits
[29:26] » this week and then y'all are good.
>> I'd like to thank the board for their
[29:30] time. Appreciate that.
>> Thank you, sir.
[29:45] The time is now 5:30 and we'll begin
today. The board will be conducting the
[29:50] public hearing to receive public
comments for the citizens on variance
[29:53] applications submitted by Lewis Espinar
for properties located on at 610, 612,
[29:59] 614, 618, 620, and 622 on Gentleman
Road, Balcony Heights 7201.
[30:07] Legally described as CB 5894, lot G3G.
Uh count uh country gentleman states uh
[30:16] subsidiary CB subdirectory
CB 5894 lot 3H country gentleman estates
[30:25] subd CB5894
lot 3J uh country gentleman establish
[30:32] subd CB5894
block 3 M country gentleman estabates
[30:38] subd CB 5894
[30:43] Country Gentleman Estates Subdoman
[30:52] estates subd zoned R five townhouse
residents. The applicant is requesting
[30:58] variances of section 153 31 53
uh C and 153 315
[31:09] 3E of
chapter chapter 8 of the city code.
[31:20] We'll begin with an open public hearing.
>> There's no citizens signed up to speak.
[31:25] You may call for staff. Okay, call for
staff permits.
[31:30] » Okay, we'll have another presentation
here. Um, let me just give a little
[31:32] background. I failed to do that in the
last one. So, um, Mr. Espinar here, um,
[31:38] over there, uh, submitted an application
to renew two variances. These are two
[31:42] variances that were granted back in
2021. This is for the properties located
[31:47] at 610, 612, 614, 618, 620, and 622
Gentleman Road. that has six uh zone uh
[31:55] R5 zone properties uh here along
Gentleman Road. That's going to be the
[31:58] the one vacant lot that you see when you
drive down off to the left behind
[32:02] Chick-fil-A there. Uh the request of
variance renews uh renewals would allow
[32:06] the proposed residential development to
proceed without modifying the existing
[32:10] utility configuration which Mr. Espanar
has spent quite a bit of money making
[32:14] sure those utilities were put there. Uh
and as reducing it will also uh let me
[32:21] back up here
proceed without modifying the existing
[32:25] utility configuration or reducing the
number of proposed dwelling units with
[32:28] the current configuration for the
platting of that property. Uh the
[32:32] application the applicant has also
requested a waiver of a variance renewal
[32:35] fee for the board's uh consideration
here. Um you can request a waiver of
[32:40] fees if it is a renewal. Um that is the
the only criteria there if it's renewal.
[32:47] So again these were granted back in
2021. Um he's looking for renewal of
[32:51] those two variances. Variances do expire
after one year if there is no movement
[32:56] on that variance that was granted. Can
you pull up the presentation please?
[33:04] Not the email. Not the email. The PDF.
[33:23] Keep going down. You got it.
Long ways down there.
[33:33] Fantastic. Again, this is for 610
through 622 Gentleman Road, all even
[33:38] numbered properties. Scroll down,
please.
[33:42] Um, without reading all those legal
descriptions again and all the property
[33:46] IDs, I think we understand that this is
uh 610 through 622 Gentleman Road, R5
[33:53] Townhouse Residences.
[33:58] So, just to provide a little context,
here is the current site along Gentleman
[34:01] Road um on your your screens in front of
you. Um the left is going to be an
[34:06] aerial view. Uh the right is going to be
a street view from Google Maps there.
[34:12] I don't have an exact timeline of how
long that's been vacant. Um Lewis can
[34:16] give a better answer here later on when
y'all call them up for questions. Scroll
[34:21] down, please.
So, the variance variances requested
[34:25] here. Um the first one's going to be
153.3.15
[34:30] 3C site requirements. And again, my the
the outlining is going to be the
[34:34] important information that we're looking
at here, what they're requesting
[34:37] variances uh from within that ordinance.
So, first one is C. All parking lots,
[34:43] stalls, or garage entrances for town um
townhouse units shall be accessible from
[34:47] the rear of the property by alleys or
internal drive aisle accessing the rear
[34:52] of the unit. In so far as practable
practable
[34:58] practable, I can't get it. Exterior off-
streetet parking facility shall be
[35:04] grounded in bays at the interior blocks.
No off- streetet parking space shall be
[35:08] more than 100 feet by the most direct
pedestrian route from a door to the
[35:12] duelan unit it is intended to serve. So
the requested area variance is rear
[35:17] access uh for parking there. Uh the next
request is 153.3.153E
[35:25] design requirements and this is garages
and parking areas shall not be
[35:30] emphasized along street frontages. Uh
attached detach garages in the rear yard
[35:35] with access to midblock streets or
private shared driveways along the rear
[35:38] of the property are preferred. And that
underlying area is the area that we're
[35:43] going to be looking at. uh the way that
he has his layout right now is going to
[35:47] be um front access for the vehicles, not
rear access. Uh given the size of this
[35:53] property, there's just no feasible way
for us to to force him to have any rear
[35:57] access for these vehicles. If so, then
you're limiting the amount of units that
[36:01] he's able to put on that property in
addition to um
[36:06] changing up the utility designs right
now where there's existing water, uh
[36:11] sewer, and electric for all six of those
properties configured for this internal
[36:16] front access for vehicles. Scroll down
to the next slide.
[36:22] This is a loose configuration of layout.
Um, so those six um squares, the blue
[36:28] and the red squares on the left are
going to be how those houses, not to
[36:32] scale. Please note that's not to scale,
but how they will be aligned. Um, you're
[36:37] going to see that long kind of
rectangular area between those squares.
[36:41] That's going to be your driving access
aisle where the vehicles would drive
[36:45] through that little alleyway and be able
to access their garage through the front
[36:49] of their home, not the rear of their
home. on the right again is going to be
[36:52] that uh aerial view of the property.
Scroll down, please.
[37:01] So, just going back to the ordinance
purpose, right? Um this is 153.3.15
[37:07] R5 town houses. I've highlighted those
green areas because this is where we're
[37:12] kind of aligning where this variance is
and how it falls in line with the
[37:15] current ordinance. So the intent aligns
with ensuring location and design
[37:19] standards are compatible with the
surrounding property which this does
[37:22] satisfy the need. Uh make efficient,
economical, comfortable and convenient
[37:27] use of scarce land and open space uh
resources. This does it is an infill
[37:32] property that we're trying to make sure
is redeveloped. Um there has to be
[37:36] unique creative ideas to uh be able to
place housing here which Mr. Espanar has
[37:41] uh been able to do. um and then serve
the public purpose of increasing density
[37:46] by providing an alternative uh to
conventional arrangements of yards and
[37:50] building areas which this needs to. Uh
this property is uh well below an acre.
[37:56] Um it is fitting the need for density
right it is fitting six uh houses there.
[38:02] Uh there's no change on um lot minimum
size which it is going to meet the need
[38:08] for. It is just changing up the um
access for those cars there. Next slide
[38:14] please.
Excuse me. Once we start looking at our
[38:18] city plan uh 2040 here uh permitting
these variances addresses issues
[38:23] identified um and all these issues are
identified by residents, right? Uh that
[38:28] um
table on the right that you see, these
[38:32] are all answers that were provided by
residents back in 2022, 2023, addressing
[38:36] the strengths, the weaknesses, the
threats that this community is facing.
[38:40] Um it's addressing aging housing stock.
We're able to get six new homes in this
[38:44] community. Uh population decline, right?
We're making sure that it is a a dense
[38:48] area or a denser area. um where we're
making sure more uh residents move into
[38:54] the area and it's satisfying the the
need of there being a lack of inventory.
[38:59] Right? Uh there are two different areas
that are zoned R5 town home, but there's
[39:04] no town home places here in the city,
right? So, we're making sure we're
[39:08] satisfying all these needs that were um
identified by our residents.
[39:13] Next slide, please.
>> [clears throat]
[39:16] » Before I go into the recommendation, I
just want to say this is another
[39:19] property where we send 200 foot notices
to. I received no written uh notice of
[39:25] in favor or opposed. I did receive one
phone call that um they are not opposed
[39:30] to the changes and this is from the
property owner of Chick-fil-A. Um this
[39:34] is the one uh directly behind this
property. They have no issues with
[39:38] whatever variances are being requested
here. Um again the recommendation here
[39:42] is going to be approve the renewal of
both variances. Right? The board has
[39:45] already made a decision before to
approve this in the past. Uh the request
[39:49] of variances do not adversely affect the
neighborhood character or the intent of
[39:52] the ordinance which is very important
here. Uh the approval of variance will
[39:56] also strengthen and address goals that
have been outlined by the community
[39:59] input in the city plan 2040.
That'll be the end of my presentation.
[40:12] So uh to receive
it to receive the public comment is
[40:17] Lewis Espinar here today to speak? Yes.
Please
[40:22] please step over to the mic. Thank you.
[40:36] Good evening. This is Louis Eser. I'm
open for any questions.
[40:46] » Lewis, do do you have anything do you
want to provide to them before they ask
[40:49] any questions? Any background
information that that I didn't cover for
[40:53] you?
>> No, I think you covered it all pretty
[40:55] well. It's it was originally designed to
to get started and if you look at the
[41:00] dates that we kind of tackled this co
hit shut everybody down for about a year
[41:05] and a half and banks changed their minds
on a lot of stuff. So, I've been I've
[41:09] been holding it because I know it's a
great location for medical center and
[41:14] that's how I see the city of about is a
medical center uh draw um where you're
[41:22] so close to a well what I what I'm
seeing is a revitalization of the med
[41:27] center also with new buildings
businesses new colleges u all kinds of
[41:34] good stuff happening. So, uh, my my
intent was to build six town homes for
[41:39] people that wanted to live in the area
that used the medical center, nurses,
[41:44] doctors, whatever that may
[41:51] Then we need to close.
Anyone else have any other comments?
[41:58] So
542
[42:03] in the public hearing
[42:07] motion to vote.
>> You need to read the next.
[42:11] » May we have a discussion among the
members?
[42:14] » Uh yes.
You need to
[42:19] number five goes along with number
four.
[42:22] » My now that you've closed it, you need
to read to the board number five and
[42:28] then you can open it for discussion.
>> Okay. My apologies. Board will consider
[42:33] the act of variance applications
submitted by Louis Spinar for the
[42:36] properties located at 610, 612, 614,
618, 622, and 622 Gentleman Road,
[42:43] Balcony Heights, 78201,
Texas requesting variances of sections
[42:48] 1528B, commercial businesses, and
sections uh sections section 153 3153 C
[42:57] and 153153
E.
[43:01] of city code and the request of waiver
fees overbearances renewal.
[43:10] » Excuse Mr. G. Can I be recognized? Uh
Nick, this may be more of a question
[43:15] towards you regarding the renewal of the
variances. Um are these fees that were
[43:21] discussed to be propos uh proposed you
wave are these uh items going to be
[43:27] brought up in another year if there's no
further development on property on
[43:31] gentlemen?
>> If Mr. Espanard does not move on the
[43:36] granted variance if y'all grant it and
it expires after another year and he
[43:40] wants to come back and ask again then it
will it will probably be brought up
[43:44] again.
>> Okay. And uh second once um you know Mr.
[43:50] Espinard develops a property uh this
variance is no longer an issue as
[43:56] there's going to be existing property on
that site.
[43:59] » Correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Once the the variance is is
[44:02] granted and he's acted on it and
developed his property then it is set in
[44:07] stone.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[44:15] Turn on your mic.
>> Whenever it's red, it's on.
[44:23] Sorry about that. Yeah, the properties
develop utilities
[44:32] sewer and water impact
ready. I get this
[44:39] forward done within the
[44:50] » Let me just clarify a little further.
The second he gets a permit, he's acted
[44:54] on the variance.
>> Understood. That's Thank you for
[44:56] clarification.
>> Y
[44:58] » may be recognized.
>> Yes, sir. Um, I'm looking
[45:02] [clears throat] back to the part of the
handout to the days of November 19th,
[45:07] 2021
when uh
[45:11] a request for
relief from our codes was issued
[45:19] and uh are the
the appeal for
[45:25] this time. Is it the same? I think one
of them is the same. That's uh the
[45:30] parking lots. Are they the same as the
ones that expired or do we have a new
[45:35] one in here that I'm
>> No, no, they're they're going to be the
[45:38] same. They might be numbered a little
different if if the ordinance has been
[45:41] amended over the past five or six years,
but
[45:44] » it's the same request.
>> Thank you very much.
[45:45] » You got it.
[45:53] Ask Mr. Grady ask for further
discussion. If not, you can call.
[45:58] Anyone else who has comments or
thoughts?
[46:03] » I'd like to be recognized.
>> Yes, sir.
[46:05] » Make a motion to approve.
>> Motion second.
[46:09] » I second.
>> Thank you.
[46:18] » Call for a vote.
>> Yep. Call for a vote. Mr.
[46:25] Hi.
Hi. Hey.
[46:30] » Hi.
>> Yeah, I have it.
[46:36] » Let me let me clarify really quick. You
need a warp person I to approve
[46:44] the super majority for board of
adjustments.
[46:49] I
unless you're saying that we need
[46:52] another individual or because since I'm
chairperson
[46:55] » 3 31 will deny this variance request.
[47:08] » Mr. Ready, would you like to ask Mr.
Sers if he wants to add
[47:28] Mr. Gilling.
[47:45] If there's any further clarification I
provide, let me know if you have
[47:48] questions. If not, then
[48:00] so the the requested variance it it is
the ordinance reads that for a
[48:07] townhouse, they would need to access
their home with a vehicle at the rear of
[48:12] their house. So the
[48:21] Correct.
[48:24] » Correct.
>> After
[48:29] » if it's not acted upon, if Mr. Espanard
did not act on that variance back then.
[48:43] » May I be recognized?
>> Thank you very much. Yes, Mr. Mr.
[48:48] Sellers. [clears throat]
>> What has happened is they have run into
[48:53] some problems. They may have been
financial or otherwise and they let this
[48:58] variance that would you remember Miss
Slayen of course when she was here when
[49:02] Miss Slayen was here she um u process
the approval by the previous board for
[49:10] him to go ahead that's why I asked the
question has anything changed from
[49:16] the variances he was asking in 2021 to
now and and the answer I got from uh
[49:26] Nick was that no, they have not changed.
>> There's no change.
[49:30] » So the things that were approved in 2021
still are still needing to be reapproved
[49:37] because you have one year to start your
project.
[49:41] Mr. Espanar's group did not get that
done for whatever reason, which in my
[49:46] opinion is immaterial. Why he didn't
cash flow? I don't know. Whatever. So,
[49:53] he's coming back again
and asking us to approve his his uh
[50:00] appeal.
And I strongly suggest
[50:06] that you would reconsider
because this property is set vacant for
[50:11] 5 years. It was previously approved by
another council. It's a It's a good
[50:16] project and it use it takes makes good
use of a limited space we have for
[50:23] building. So, if you would reconsider,
we would ask that the chair call for a
[50:30] vote again and see if we can move out of
this. I don't know. I probably violated
[50:34] every rule in Robert's rules of order by
what I just did because I've never faced
[50:40] this situation before. But I think we
have the authority to go back and ask
[50:44] for review and a second vote. And I'll
leave that over to staff.
[50:53] Thank you, Mr. Mr. Gayen. Okay.
Okay. So, once again, so I would like to
[51:01] make a motion to reconsider the previous
vote and call for a new vote and see if
[51:06] we can get it passed.
>> Motion to approve. I believe Mr. Sers
[51:11] has a question.
[51:20] » I still don't know what we're here for.
Is it a driveway, a parking lot? Is it
[51:28] access to the rear?
>> I'm going to bring up the
[51:31] » I don't know what we're here for.
>> Bring up the the PowerPoint.
[51:38] Yeah.
It's on the right.
[51:43] Yeah. Scroll up.
[51:48] » Let's You know what? Let's stop right
here.
[51:58] » Yeah.
[52:12] ordinance does not
[52:25] access.
[53:02] sauce.
That's
[53:30] Okay. So, what is different now that
this was voted on and passed five years
[53:37] ago?
[53:54] Mr. Chairman, I think we have a motion
on the floor.
[53:57] » Is there a second?
>> Second.
[54:02] Motion to vote.
>> Call for the vote.
[54:06] Okay. I vote vote I
>> I
[54:12] vote
>> I
[54:14] » I motion passes.
>> There's also action on his fees. Request
[54:21] a waiver for fees.
[54:32] Anyone have comments on that? I'd like
to make a motion first and get it on the
[54:35] floor for discussion. I make a motion to
uh wave the fees for this project. Okay,
[54:42] » I second.
[54:46] » Call for discussion. Call discussion,
gentlemen.
[54:50] » Call for discussion.
>> Reapplication fee.
[54:55] » It is a relication fee.
>> All right. Yeah. Yeah.
[54:59] Second
already has a second.
[55:05] Motion to vote.
[55:10] » I I
[55:19] thank you.
[55:22] » Time is 5:55.
[55:27] Okay.
Now on to the next item of business. Bo
[55:34] will conduct a public hearing to receive
public comments from the citizens
[55:37] regarding the variances. Variance
applications submitted by uh Jalan
[55:43] Dodson. Apologies if I got your name
wrong. Executive signs for the property
[55:47] located at 6700
Highway 10 west of Bummy Heights, Texas
[55:54] 7201. Legally described as CB5508D,
Methodist Texan Hospital, Watt 17RA,
[56:03] [snorts]
zone 02, high-rise office. The applicant
[56:07] is requesting variances from sections
1531
[56:14] 17B
through D and 1531 1214B
[56:19] through D of city code VA chair persons.
We will begin for an open public hearing
[56:26] at 56.
>> There are no citizens to speak. You may
[56:31] call staff.
>> Okay. Uh staff.
[56:37] » Well, uh we're getting here.
[56:45] One more.
Sorry. No, no, no. I'm talking other
[56:49] way.
[56:53] going
right there.
[56:57] Yeah, I'm going to So, just to give a
little background here, um, Executive
[57:02] Signs, who we have a representative for
on behalf of Methodist Texan, has
[57:07] submitted a variance application for new
directional signs and new monument signs
[57:12] at 6700 IH10 West. That is going to be
the main Methodist Texan here in in the
[57:18] city off of the frontage road of I 10.
uh the prop proposed signage uh
[57:24] currently um that they want exceeds the
height, the service area, and the
[57:29] quantity limitations established by the
uh current code. Uh requested variances
[57:34] would allow the installation of signage
to improve navigation throughout the
[57:38] property for visitors and emergency
vehicles while enhancing the facil's
[57:42] visibility and identification.
[57:47] We're we're going to go um through the
entire packet that I have here for
[57:50] y'all. Uh here's the permit uh denial
letter that we have uh filled out for
[57:54] them. Uh as they apply for this signage
permit, we have to deny it based on what
[58:00] is currently adopted. Scroll down,
please.
[58:04] Keep going. Keep going.
They filled out their application of why
[58:09] this is causing them. Hardships drop
right there. Fantastic. So, there's
[58:12] about I I don't know the exact quantity.
Jacob can give a better uh answer here
[58:17] whenever he comes up here for for
questions. But I'll go through quite a
[58:21] few of these slides where this is going
to be the proposed signage that is
[58:24] directional and monument. Um if y'all
take a look at your screens, you'll
[58:28] you'll see quite a few of them and
whether they're existing and they're
[58:31] going to be added or they're going to be
removed. um I'm sorry, existing and then
[58:37] they're going to be be removed and add a
new one. Or if there's no existing sign
[58:41] there and they're going to add a new one
in place of a vacant area. So here are
[58:46] the proposed directional signs. There's
a couple different variations depending
[58:49] on the direction or the placement of it.
Um scroll down please.
[58:54] These all are going to be proposed at
six foot high. Scroll one click one
[58:59] click up other way. There we go. Four
foot wide. So, 24 square feet, um, six
[59:05] foot high signs. Scroll down, please.
Keep going.
[59:12] Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.
You'll see that a lot of these look the
[59:15] same. Stop on the ER one, on the red
one. Fantastic. Um, I just want to
[59:20] reiterate that this is going to help
clarify visibility throughout the the
[59:23] Methodist Texan campus, right? Um the
last thing that you know we want or I'm
[59:28] sure Methodist wants is for somebody to
not find the ER or whatever emergency
[59:33] area that they're trying to locate um
there. So this is going to help provide
[59:36] a lot of directional um overview to
anybody that's uh either visiting and or
[59:43] um emergency vehicles that need to uh
find what area they're trying to
[59:47] navigate to. Right. Um I did speak to
Methodist Texan earlier today. Uh they
[59:51] did note that this is one of the only
hospitals in the San Antonio Bear County
[59:56] area that has the emergency department
at the rear of the building and not the
[1:00:00] front of the building. Um so this uh
signage, the ER signage and a lot of
[1:00:04] this monument signage, I'm sorry,
directional signage is important for
[1:00:07] them to be able to navigate, provide
anybody that's uh there an ability to
[1:00:11] find it when most people are used to
just driving to the front of the
[1:00:14] hospital and being able to to find it
there. So we're kind of in a unique
[1:00:18] situation here. Scroll down, please.
Keep going.
[1:00:23] And again, you'll notice a lot of these
directionals are going to look the same.
[1:00:26] Keep going.
Keep going.
[1:00:37] Zoom in on that that uh right before
that one. Here you're going to see a lot
[1:00:43] of the proposed signage placement
throughout the property. Um a lot of
[1:00:47] them are directional. We have a few
monuments. Uh the ones that are denoted
[1:00:51] as number one and number 13 along the
front are going to be the monuments.
[1:00:56] Excuse me. All the rest of those signs,
those those yellow circles up there with
[1:01:01] any other number besides one or 13 is
going to be your directional signs.
[1:01:04] Scroll down, please.
[1:01:08] Here is going to be the proposed change
to the monument sign. This is the
[1:01:12] existing monument sign there. Uh again,
I talked to Methodist earlier today, the
[1:01:17] director of facilities management. You
did note that, you know, the signage
[1:01:20] hasn't been changed in 20 something
years. They're looking to to not only
[1:01:24] freshen up the the signage, but they
have a very common issue with people
[1:01:29] driving into this sign, right? It is not
easily viewable. There's only one ground
[1:01:34] light that's facing this. So, it is a a
common issue that he has to deal with
[1:01:38] getting replaced. And if you're not
familiar with monument signs, they're
[1:01:42] they go from between 10,000 and probably
50 100,000. They're very expensive signs
[1:01:47] to to constantly keep maintaining. Hold
down, please.
[1:01:52] There. Yep, there we go. Here is going
to be the proposed new monument sign.
[1:01:57] Uh, if I can see it is 10 foot six high
and 8 foot wide. This is not only
[1:02:03] providing more visibility from the
frontage road. Um, it's providing more
[1:02:08] visibility from the highway, anybody
passing by, but it it's also internally
[1:02:12] lit, which is going to provide more
visibility at night. uh hopefully and uh
[1:02:17] probably prevent more people from
keeping running into the sign. Right.
[1:02:21] So, there's two different proposed
locations for this sign. One that you
[1:02:25] just saw that's going to replace the
existing and then one that's going to be
[1:02:28] at a different area that doesn't have a
current sign, a monument sign in place.
[1:02:33] Scroll down, please.
This one's going to be replacing the
[1:02:37] existing at the main entrance along the
I 10 front road. Scroll down.
[1:02:46] We're going to skip that one. Scroll
down. And this one's going, you got it.
[1:02:51] This one's going to be added as a new
sign that is not currently uh have
[1:02:56] anything there, right? It's just an
empty patch of field, right? If you miss
[1:02:59] that first entrance, this is going to be
your second one. We want to be able to
[1:03:02] provide that visibility that way
nobody's missing their access into the
[1:03:06] hospital. Go down, please.
Just to reiterate, here are the
[1:03:11] locations for the signs. uh one and 13
are going to be your monuments. All the
[1:03:16] rest of those signs there are going to
be your uh directional signs providing
[1:03:20] navigation to any area of the facility
whether it be parking, the ER, any other
[1:03:26] uh department they need to uh kind of
navigate to. Scroll down.
[1:03:31] Fantastic. Let's get to our
presentation. Scroll down a little more.
[1:03:34] So, property information. Uh Shon
Donsson was the one that um applied for
[1:03:38] this for executive signs. We have Jacob
Dodson uh who
[1:03:42] Can you remind me your position?
President. Fantastic. Even better. Um,
[1:03:47] of executive signs here to speak on
behalf of Methodist Texan. Uh, address
[1:03:52] against 6700 IH10 West. This is one of
the only properties that's zoned O2
[1:03:57] Highrise Office. Um, our BCAP property
ID is going to be 1303200.
[1:04:04] Go down, please.
So, we saw a lot of the pictures of the
[1:04:09] current site. Um, here's what it looks
like for the monument sign areas. One
[1:04:13] does not have a sign on it. Another one
has a sign that is within the
[1:04:16] limitations of what the ordinance says
right now. I want to say it's probably
[1:04:20] around 5T, 5'6, something kind of at the
max of what a mon size is allowed to be.
[1:04:26] Hold on.
So, requested variances, we have quite a
[1:04:31] few here. So, um, on our directional
signs, there's a maximum height of three
[1:04:36] feet that is set by the ordinance.
They're requesting that their
[1:04:41] directional signs be changed to six foot
in height. The maximum area uh currently
[1:04:48] allowed is 12 square feet. They're
requesting it to be 24 square feet. And
[1:04:54] the maximum number of signs is one for
every 10,000 square feet of space. So
[1:04:59] it's it's based on calculation. Um I
don't know the square footage area of
[1:05:04] the hospital. Um, but I'm sure it's not
150,000 square feet. We're requesting 15
[1:05:10] signs on property there. Um, again, this
is just to provide uh, you know,
[1:05:15] directional enhancements to visitors
and, uh, emergency vehicles, KDN, EMS
[1:05:21] services that need to be able to locate
services very quickly at the hospital.
[1:05:25] The requested variances for monument
signs. Um, what's currently allowed is
[1:05:29] going to be 5 foot six. They're
requesting that their signs be 10 foot
[1:05:34] eight. Um the maximum area is that's
allowed currently is 50 square feet.
[1:05:39] They're requesting it to be 80 square
feet and there is a limitation of one
[1:05:44] sign per frontage. Um so as you saw
there they're requesting two signs along
[1:05:50] IH10 the frontage road there. One is a
pre-existing and then one is a vacant
[1:05:55] area that serves as their secondary
entrance to the hospital campus. Please,
[1:06:03] » just to go over signage again, here are
the two kind of main design layouts for
[1:06:06] them. One is just a general navigation
sign and then one is very specific to
[1:06:11] the ER for them.
Here's your your monument signage one
[1:06:16] more time with um with
height and width, right? 108 and then
[1:06:22] six foot wide. Um it is a much larger
sign, right? So, we're making sure that
[1:06:26] we're allowing them the visibility for
people that need to locate the the
[1:06:31] emergency services that Methodist
provides with ease. Right. And if you
[1:06:35] missed this one, you want to be able to
access the second one. And there's
[1:06:38] currently not assignment. Scroll down,
please. So, ordinance intent, it's going
[1:06:43] to be the same as what we uh viewed
earlier for Dila's wall sign. Um, you
[1:06:48] know, the we're recognizing the safety,
commercial, and emergency and
[1:06:51] informationational needs, right, for the
signs. This is clearly falling within
[1:06:54] that within that intent that you know we
need to make sure emergency
[1:06:58] andformational needs are satisfied right
and that's what they're requesting that
[1:07:03] variance for. Um it's intended to
enhance properties uh property values
[1:07:08] which this will right Methodist has a
very strategic plan to make sure that
[1:07:12] they keep continually enhancing their
property and signage is just part of
[1:07:15] that plan. Uh maintains the aesthetic
attractiveness which this does. It's a
[1:07:20] very modern update. Um and it promotes
commercial opportunity not necessarily
[1:07:25] commercial opportunity but you know um
enhancing to make sure those people come
[1:07:28] and and view the hospital uh with ease
right it supports the objectives of what
[1:07:33] our master plan has on
so I did not have any responsive
[1:07:40] requests to this property right we sent
it to two 200 foot notice to everybody
[1:07:44] within that area uh no phone calls no
responsive letters mailed back to me but
[1:07:51] you This is something where there's
undue hardship to
[1:07:55] a property that serves a more purpose
than most of our commercial properties,
[1:08:00] right? It is a emergency service that is
provided to the city. It is an undue
[1:08:04] hardship that's placed on them. Uh,
Methodist is explaining that this is a
[1:08:09] compliance issue as well that emergency
vehicles need a certain limit, certain
[1:08:14] requirement for their signage. So, these
emergency vehicles, EMS, fire, police,
[1:08:18] whatever it is can access their property
and navigate with ease and it just helps
[1:08:23] the visitors as they need to go there as
well. Um, so recommendation from staff
[1:08:28] is to approve this variance for both
directional and monument signs. I think
[1:08:33] that's my last slide, right?
[1:08:37] So once we get into discussion, I'll be
happy to answer any questions.
[1:08:46] » Is Mr. Shell and Dodson here with us?
>> Oh, yes. Oh,
[1:08:53] » so before we do that, you need to close
the public hearing state.
[1:08:58] » The time is 609 and we're closing the
public hearing and begin receiving
[1:09:03] public comments from Mr. Johnson
read yes
[1:09:10] the board will consider an act of
variance applications submitted by
[1:09:14] Johnson of executive signings for the
property located at 6700
[1:09:20] highway 10 west heights Texas 7201
requesting variances of sections 150.2
[1:09:28] commercial businesses and sections
153.127
[1:09:32] BD and 15324
BD
[1:09:44] was your name again sir Jacob Jacob
Dawson
[1:09:48] mic
[1:10:02] Jacob Johnson with Executive Science.
[1:10:14] Anyone have any comments?
[1:10:28] My concern would be
blocking the traffic, the view of the
[1:10:34] traffic at intersections,
particularly on one and 13 when you're
[1:10:40] pulling out in front of the access road
there.
[1:10:44] It seems like
limited vision.
[1:10:51] » Have y'all considered that?
>> Well, so are you talking about on the
[1:10:55] front edge road of I 10,
[1:10:59] » right?
>> That right there.
[1:11:00] » Right.
>> Well, I mean the there's a setback that
[1:11:02] goes up along the property line for the
signs to go with. So really the only
[1:11:07] people that it would go is when they're
leaving, but it would be set back enough
[1:11:10] where they can see shouldn't.
>> How far back would it be set back? Um, I
[1:11:15] need to check to see how far we have it
set off, but the existing one is within
[1:11:20] where it should be. And then the second
one would be at least that far back.
[1:11:25] Let me clarify a little further. Right.
So, um, we see the existing one right
[1:11:29] there. Um, as you're pulling in, there's
no obstruction to view for that traffic
[1:11:33] on the frontage road. Uh, the road
directly behind it is going to be your
[1:11:37] exit road. Um, you can see oncoming
traffic. It's set back enough where
[1:11:41] you're able to see, right? Let's go down
to that bottom one.
[1:11:47] Maybe
[1:11:50] is in the original.
[1:11:58] » It was down.
>> Oh, did we skip it? Go. Go back the
[1:12:01] other way.
[1:12:13] that one more.
>> Yeah, there we go. That one. So, um,
[1:12:17] this one's going to be your exit, right?
There. There's no need to view to the
[1:12:20] right as your
[1:12:25] or not.
[1:12:30] Hey, Dave. Dave, turn to Michael.
[1:12:36] Just worried about the
[1:12:41] the view the sign blocking your view of
oncoming traffic as you're pulling out
[1:12:46] on number nine.
>> This one I'm looking probably 20 25 foot
[1:12:51] setback from the main road. So that's
what you're looking at on your left of
[1:12:55] your screen there is going to be
crossroads
[1:12:58] boulevard and then at the bottom of your
screen right there that's going to be
[1:13:02] Denny Lane which is private access road.
It it's not set back very far from Denny
[1:13:08] Lane but it not a city rightway street,
right? So, we can't really regulate that
[1:13:12] setback crossroads. We're well within
the setback to make sure that it's not
[1:13:17] obstructing any view there.
>> There's an existing sign there.
[1:13:21] » There is an existing sign there. Yeah,
>> that's the only really questions I had.
[1:13:25] All the concerns I had.
[1:13:30] » May I be recognized? Of course, Mr.
Gillian. Go ahead. Uh, first of all, I'd
[1:13:34] like to say Dave uh beat me to the gun
on that one because that was my concern,
[1:13:39] too.
Line of sight to uh oncoming or crossing
[1:13:44] traffic to the hospital to the hospital.
But after going back and looking at the
[1:13:50] pictures again, it looks like line of
sight will not be a problem. We have
[1:13:54] more bushes in our city that block site
than this sign will ever do. Um, so I
[1:14:01] think it's u I think it's going to be
okay. Um,
[1:14:05] what we have to realize if we change if
we change this to six feet
[1:14:13] it it's not a legal change of the code
but people will be asking for more
[1:14:19] variances on it but I I don't think this
one this one in itself is a problem.
[1:14:24] Thank you.
I think there's maybe two or three
[1:14:28] properties in the city that have
directional signs. Um Methodist being
[1:14:32] one. Um and it's going to be your
drive-ins, right? Or drive-through,
[1:14:36] sorry, drive-through restaurants. So
Chick-fil-A, that one's going to be
[1:14:39] another one that has directional signs.
Um those are the only ones that really
[1:14:43] provide any um desire or kind of need to
have them, right? But this, like you
[1:14:49] said, Mr. Gill, this one's kind of a
little bit different of a situation,
[1:14:52] right? It's a hospital where we're
serving those needs for um emergency
[1:14:57] services, not you know commercial needs.
Right.
[1:15:01] » I have one more questions please if I
may.
[1:15:04] » The sign the sign itself excuse my
voice.
[1:15:08] » Yes sir.
>> I'm working outside today and a lot of
[1:15:09] that pollen got in my throat.
[clears throat and cough]
[1:15:12] » The sign itself is an inert sign. It's
not a video sign.
[1:15:16] » No sir.
>> Is is it a lighted sign?
[1:15:18] » It's it's internally lit. The two
monuments. Yes sir.
[1:15:20] » Yeah. So it is a lit sign which you you
have to have at night anyway.
[1:15:24] » Yes sir.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:15:25] » Yes sir.
[1:15:30] » May I have the floor?
>> Of course.
[1:15:32] » Lamar
just in response to
[1:15:37] your concerns about other
[1:15:42] uh future complaints.
I spent five years on planning and
[1:15:47] zoning. The entire five years I spent on
planning and zoning was spent on signs.
[1:15:54] Fortunately, I got out before the final
outcome.
[1:15:59] Uh but it was a battle from day one as
to the location and the sign and the
[1:16:07] size and it and it's a it's been an
ongoing issue forever
[1:16:15] and it really needs to be revisited
and and I think a lot of variances
[1:16:21] should be allowed.
With that said, I don't have a problem
[1:16:26] with these signs.
[1:16:34] May I be recognized?
>> Of course.
[1:16:35] » I'd like to call a motion to call the
question.
[1:16:39] » Second.
Call the motion to the question.
[1:16:45] » We we have now no one person can call
the question without a vote of the
[1:16:51] governing group. So, we need to go and
ask for a vote to call the question
[1:16:55] because what this does, for those that
don't know, it stops all discussion
[1:16:59] about this particular item that's on the
agenda.
[1:17:03] » So, my motion is to call the question.
[1:17:08] » Motion to vote. Motion vote.
I'm going to make a motion to pass.
[1:17:16] Yay.
>> Thank you. Hey.
[1:17:26] passes.
>> Okay. Now you can call for a motion to
[1:17:32] approve or disapprove because all
discussion has stopped.
[1:17:37] » Motion to approve or disapprove.
>> Make a motion to approve.
[1:17:42] » So make a motion to approve.
Second.
[1:17:48] » Copy the vote.
>> Okay. Motion to vote. I thought we just
[1:17:51] did.
>> Oh,
[1:17:54] I'm I'm lost.
>> I thought we just voted on stopping the
[1:17:58] discussion. And now we need
>> We need to have
[1:18:00] » I'm the person that got lost. [laughter]
>> Now we need the motion to approve or
[1:18:05] disapprove. And you have a motion on the
table to approve and and you just
[1:18:09] second, I believe.
>> Yeah. Okay. My vote is yay. Okay.
[1:18:13] » Yay. Yay.
>> And yes.
[1:18:22] I've been so used to having everything
on record to make sure everyone hears
[1:18:26] their part and go by the line. My
apologies.
[1:18:30] » So you can uh call for adjournment
because you finished your book of
[1:18:33] business.
>> Okay. So call for adjournment.
[1:18:35] » Motion to approve to adjurnn.
Second.
[1:18:40] » Second.
>> Yeah.
[1:18:44] » We we have to vote on it. Okay.
>> Is a motion on the table? I
[1:18:48] » I
>> I The time is 6:19.