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Good afternoon, everyone. We will now call

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the May 26th regular meeting of council to order at 2:00

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PM.

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And we have an agenda for our meeting this afternoon.

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Could I please get someone to move the agenda? Councillor Standish, thank you.

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Any changes to the agenda?

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Seeing none, all in favor?

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And opposed. That's carried unanimously.

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Next, we have the 2026 council work plan.

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Any questions on the work plan for administration?

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Seeing none, any objections to receiving the work plan for

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the corporate records? Thanks, everyone.

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That takes us to confirmation of minutes.

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We have the minutes from the May 12th regular meeting of council.

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Could I please get someone to move those minutes?

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Councillor Standish, thank you. Any changes

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or corrections to those minutes?

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Seeing none, all in favor?

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And opposed.

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It's carried unanimously.

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Next, we'll move to invited presentations.

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4.1, Banff Public Library Board update to council,

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and we have

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some members from the Banff Public Library here today. Welcome.

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we love swag.

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So please come on up, Ms. McCormick, and we will be ready

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whenever you're all ears.

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Or we're all ears whenever you're ready. That's what I meant to say.

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Good afternoon, mayor and council.

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Originally, I had planned to come today with a fun and celebratory

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presentation about our Library of Things, the sewing machines, radon

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detectors, community partnerships that are help making the Banff Public Library a

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hub for sustainability, accessibility, learning, and community connection.

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And while that work is still incredibly important, the recent passing of Bill

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28 has significantly changed the conversation for public libraries across

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AlbertaToday, I wanted to briefly speak about what Bill 28

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means for libraries, for municipalities, and for communities like Banff.

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Bill 28 introduces major changes to Alberta's Libraries Act.

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According to the Coalition of Alberta Public Libraries, the legislation gives the

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provincial government expanded authority over library operations,

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including the ability to create age-based restrictions on materials,

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conduct inspections of libraries and records, and issue directives regarding

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compliance. The minister is granted the authority to dictate

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library operations, restrict programming, and enforce rules

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regarding access to specific materials, overriding municipally appointed

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boards and professional staff.

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Libraries across Alberta, including rural systems, urban systems, and

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regional library organizations, have expressed serious concerns about these

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changes. CAP Libraries, which represents 324

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library service points serving 99% of Albertans, has raised concerns around

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privacy, local governance, operational feasibility, and cost.

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At the Banff Public Library and in libraries across Alberta, we already have

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policies, professional standards, and local governance standards in place

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to support families and ensure age-appropriate access to materials.

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Libraries are locally governed by appointed boards that reflect community needs and

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values. Bill 28 entirely changes that model.

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Instead of local decision-making, authority shifts towards provincial oversight and

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future regulations that have not yet been clearly defined.

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As of today, libraries still do not know what materials and material types may be

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restricted, how age verification would work, how

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digital collections would be handled, what infrastructure and physical changes may

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be required, or what financial impact will be on

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municipalities. That uncertainty is deeply

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concerning for libraries of all sizes.

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Public libraries operate with limited staff and tight budgets.

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Potential compliance requirements, including restricted spaces, additional

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staffing, verification processes, collection changes,

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technology modifications, and inspection preparedness could place significant

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operational and financial burdens on municipalities.

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CAP Libraries has noted, and provincial officials have confirmed, that no

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provincial funding has been included for implementation.

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For communities like Banff, libraries are far more than book repositories.

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We are community hubs. We support literacy, early childhood

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development, digital access, newcomers, seniors, students, visitors,

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remote workers, job seekers, and vulnerable residents.

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We provide safe public spaces, free internet, educational programming,

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access to information, and increasingly, access to practical resources through

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initiatives like our Library of Things and Little Free Pantry.

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Libraries work because communities trust them.

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Recent polling commissioned by CAP Libraries found that 82% of Albertans trust

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their local library to make appropriate decisions about materials and services,

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and nearly 70% prefer decisions to be made locally by

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trained staff and boards rather than through provincial-wide rules.

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This conversation is not just about books.

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This is about privacy, local governance, intellectual freedom,

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municipal impact, and maintaining accessible public spaces where people

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can learn, explore, and connect without unnecessary

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burdens. As regulations develop, Alberta libraries are

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continuing to ask for meaningful consultation and practical solutions that

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respect both parental responsibility and the foundation principles of

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public library service.

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I wanted council to be aware of this legislation because it has the potential to

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significantly impact library operations across the province, including here in

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Banff.

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Despite these challenges, our library remains committed to serving this community

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with openness, professionalism, compassion, and care.

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I would also like to respectfully ask council to continue paying attention to this

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issue as regulations develop over the coming weeks and months.

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Municipalities fund and support public libraries because libraries are essential

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public infrastructure. Decisions that affect how libraries operate, what

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barriers patrons and community may face, and what additional costs

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municipalities may absorb should not happen without meaningful

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consultation with the communities and library systems directly

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affected. Municipal governments are key partners in public

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library service, and these changes may have operational, financial, and governance

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implications for communities across Alberta.

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There are a few meaningful ways that municipalities can support libraries through

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this process.

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Advocating for meaningful consultation of public libraries and municipalities

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before regulations are finalized, supporting local library boards and

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professional staff in maintaining community-based decision-making,

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recognizing the potential financial and staffing impacts these changes may create,

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and continuing to publicly support the roles libraries play as trusted, accessible

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community spaces.

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Public libraries are one of the most widely used and trusted public services in

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Alberta. The decisions made now will shape not only the future of libraries

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in Alberta, but the future of equitable public access to

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information and community space.

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Ensuring they remain locally responsive, accessible, and sustainable

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benefits the entire community. Thank you, and I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Thank you very much, Ms. McCormack.

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Before I open it up, I would just say that high level, the

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library is one of the most beloved

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buildings and organizations that we have here in the community.

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It's a program that all ages and stages can plug

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into, and they have their own safe space there

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at the library to learn and to use the computers and

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read books, as you mentioned, as well as all kinds of community programming.

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So the library is very beloved, so thank you for everything you do.

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Thanks for highlighting the impacts of this

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potential bill, and that was all very well

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said. We appreciate being educated on the library's

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perspective. Thanks also for the heavy lift on advocacy.

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We do a bit of advocacy on a number of files, so it's really helpful

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to have that coming straight from the library and putting us in a

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position to where we can help support where it makes sense.

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Really interesting to hear how it could impact municipal

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budgets as well. Thanks for highlighting that.

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We will certainly keep abreast of...

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the latest developments with this bill.

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And in the meantime, again, thanks for being vocal and

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ensuring that the Banff Public Library's voice is heard.

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So on that note, I'll just ask, are there any questions?

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Councillor Pelham?

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Sure.

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Very much appreciate you coming to share these updates with

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us, and

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have been thinking a lot about the library, my short time on the board,

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what these changes mean for our

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organization. So,

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we're with you.

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Councillor Pelham. Or, sorry, Councillor Backhouse.

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I'm going to echo a lot of the sentiment here.

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I love the advocacy, and thank you for showing up and speaking.

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It's essential,

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and having our voice and the library's voice at the table.

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I just want to talk about a quick snippet we heard from

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Jasper in recovery

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and how community sentiment is still

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really strong when there are these community places that are still

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holding space for gatherings. And so thank you for doing it

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because we're learning that in the redevelopment, and

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resilient communities, and you play a huge part in that.

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So thank you for providing that space, and I think you are doing a

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fantastic job advocating for your voice in the future, too.

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So, I hear you and definitely support that.

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Thank you. Anything else from council?

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Thank you very much for being here, Ms. McCormick and board members.

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And we're going to continue on with our agenda, but we know that you folks are

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busy, so we're not offended if you need to leave.

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Thank you again.

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Next, we have public input. We received no

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written submissions or any pre-registrations

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for verbal submissions, so I'll just do a call to the gallery to see if there's

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anyone who wishes to speak on any of the agenda items this

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afternoon.

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Seeing none, we'll move to unfinished business.

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We do not have any. That takes us to

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administrative reports.

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7.1 is a request for decision, proposed

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by-law 496, Squirrel Street Staff Housing

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Partnership with Parks Canada Capital Project, second and third

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reading. Good afternoon, Ms. Abegg.

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Good afternoon, council. Just a very short presentation this

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afternoon. This by-law for the Squirrel Street

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Staff Housing Partnership with Parks Canada was originally presented on April

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28th and received first reading. Following that, it was advertised

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in the Rocky Mountain Outlook on the

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weeks of April 30th and May 7th, which was followed by a 15-day

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petition period. That deadline has passed as of

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May 22nd, so this item is now back in front of council today for

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second and/or third reading. So that concludes my presentation, and I

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welcome any questions.

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Thank you very much, Ms. Abegg. Any questions on

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second and third reading of by-law 496?

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Seeing none, could I please get someone to move that by-law

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496 be read a second time? Councillor Pelham, thank you.

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Any discussion or debate on second reading?

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Seeing none, all in favor?

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And then could I please have someone move third reading?

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Councillor Ludwich, thank you. Any discussion or debate on

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Thanks, Ms. Abegg.

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Moving forward, we have 7.2, request for

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decision, proposed by-law 497, Heritage

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Resource Action Plan, land use by-law amendments,

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the HRAP. Good afternoon, Mr. Michaels.

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The HRAP. That's how I will present.

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For the benefit of the gallery, my name's Dave Michaels.

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I'm the manager of planning services.

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It's my pleasure to present by-law 497, which is a land use

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amending by-law. We also have Marcella Figuero from Green

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Space Alliance, who you may recall from our presentation to

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the Governance and Finance Committee on this proposed by-law, who have been

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drafting and helping us through this process.

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So this is something that council have seen through the Governance and Finance

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Committee, and so I'll just talk through

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the proposed by-law here. So just as a reminder, the Heritage

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Resource Action Plan was adopted by council in March of 2024.

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It includes a total of 32 total tactics aimed at

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heritage conservation, and nine of those tactics specifically

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related to land use by-law amendments.

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The by-law in front of you today has eight of those tactics, and as you may

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recall, we discussed one of those, not being

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applicable anymore because of the changes to housing.

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The Governance and Finance Committee did provide that direction on January the

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27th, and so that direction has been incorporated into the

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by-law for first reading that you see before you today.

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So just a reminder, the guiding principles for these by-law amendments is really to

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provide heritage properties with a relative advantage over other

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properties. It's to prioritize tools that produce an

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indirect benefit to supplement the existing direct benefits.

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So at the moment, grants is predominantly the key

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benefit that we give to designating heritage properties.

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But really, there have been very few tools and tactics to

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really incentivize heritage retention within our community, and so this

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by-law looks to introduce thoseSo really, these by-law

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amendments would all be voluntary in nature, and that's why we hope they would give

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a perceived benefit to heritage property owners above and beyond

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demolishing or the heritage grant.

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And really, it's to create a policy environment that introduces opportunities for

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both heritage conservation and new housing development.

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So, this is probably a little out of date.

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I believe we now actually have less than 183 because we have lost

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heritage structures and, in fact, we received an application for

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demolition of another heritage structure last week.

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So we're continuing to see residential applications, unfortunately,

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with heritage being lost in the process, because the

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majority of those heritage properties on the inventory are in residential land use

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districts.

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So these proposed tactics, of which there are eight, not sequentially

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numbered, but numbered as per the Heritage Resource Action Plan,

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really provide a whole load of opportunities that hopefully

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will incentivize some form of retention of heritage.

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And I'll talk through them all briefly and just how they're implemented through

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the land use by-law changes. So tactic one, pretty straightforward.

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A time extension for permit application. Why is this helpful?

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Mainly because heritage properties are complicated when it comes to

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development.

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So we're just proposing longer timeframes.

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So that means that a permit's just going to not expire quite as quickly

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because it takes that extra time. So typically, at the moment, development

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must be commenced within one year, although we can grant an extension to

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that. So just extending those timeframes up to meet conditions

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within 18 months, and then development must commence within two years.

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So relatively straightforward,

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and just providing that extra time so that developers don't need to worry

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about a permit lapsing when they're working on a heritage property.

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As you will have seen in the report, we also outlined the applicability of each of

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these tactics. So what would you need to

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prove or to be able to do in order to get this perceived benefit from the

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land use by-law? So with some of these, and we've tried to scale

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those appropriate to

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what we're giving away,

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and what we're asking for in return as a municipality.

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So really, this would be any heritage-related development, which is development of

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any property that's on the municipal heritage inventory.

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So not designated, just the heritage corporation have recognized that

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it has some importance for a heritage structure in our community,

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and where that application provides conservation, restoration,

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rehabilitation, or adaptive reuse of the historic resource.

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So really, you have a property that's listed on the inventory.

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If you're investing anything through a development permit, then we will give

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you that extended timeframe for compliance.

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Adjusting the approving authority for development.

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So again, heritage preservation

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really needs to reduce as much risk as possible.

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As we discussed at the Governance and Finance Committee, where the approving

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authority is the Municipal Planning Commission, you're not getting that decision

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until you go to the Municipal Planning Commission for discretionary

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uses. And so really, for heritage-related development, the

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proposal is to keep a consistent point of contact being the

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development officer. So as a development officer, we can approve internally

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a large number of applications, some quite substantial in

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nature. So keeping this point of contact, even for

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discretionary uses, just allows consistency with what we're

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saying as administration, what we think the application needs to do to

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comply with the land use by-law, versus us trying to

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provide guidance and ultimately Municipal Planning Commission making the decision.

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And again, that would be to any heritage property on the inventory that's

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providing a development that doesn't reinvest into the heritage

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structure.

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Sorry,

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with the exception of the non-commercial heritage use, which I'll talk about a

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little bit later on.

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Improve and add certainty to the land use variance process.

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And again, these tactics all came out of the Heritage Resource Action Plan, so

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there was a lot of engagement with heritage property owners in the

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community on those tactics. So these are just implementing those tactics that

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have already been through that process.

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And so again, providing heritage properties that require variance,

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often to accommodate something that already exists on site due to their

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unique circumstances, providing a simpler variance

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test for that specific heritage property.

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And again, that would apply when a variance is being requested for any

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property on the heritage inventory, again, where they're reinvesting in that

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heritage structure.

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So just to run through the variance test.

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I know some of you have sat on MPC before, some of you haven't.

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So just a reminder, an applicant can choose to

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apply for a variance to the land use by-laws.

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When an application doesn't comply with the land use by-law, they can request that

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a variance is applied, and there's certain criteria that that has

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to tick, a whole load of boxes that that has to tick in order to be granted

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that variance. So under the land use by-law, the deviation has to be minor in

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nature.

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It has to not unduly interfere with the amenities of the area or

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interfere or affect the use, enjoyment, safety, aesthetics, or value of neighboring

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properties.

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And it must conform to the use prescribed for the land.

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So you can't vary use.

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And also, there has to be an unusual site configuration, soil conditions, or

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other factors which are peculiar to the site and not common in the district.

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Or the variance will, in the opinion of the development approving authority,

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either improve the design relative to the design guidelines or contribute to the

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preservation of heritage value of recognized historic building.

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So there is, within the variance test currently, already a

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clause that allows a variance specifically for heritage,

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but you do have to tick all these other boxes.So as per your

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direction, we've proposed a second variance test.

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So rather than have this last section in section E

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where

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a development has to also contribute to the preservation of heritage,

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when it does that, there would be a separate variance test.

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And really, it strips away these conditions

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that are in that variance test. And so the only variance

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test for a structure on the heritage inventory when they're requesting a

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variance would be that the proposed development will not unduly interfere with the

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amenities of the area,

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and that they can't change use. So they would be the only things.

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And out of interest, these are the minimum variance requirements

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under the Municipal Government Act.

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So these are verbatim when you have a variance to a land use

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bylaw, you have to at least do these, all the other ones that are included in our

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land use bylaws are addition

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over the MGA. And so the proposal is for that heritage specific

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variance test. We just have the Municipal Government Act minimum of not

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unduly interfering with the amenities of the area, safety, aesthetics, et cetera,

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and not being able to vary use.

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So tactic 12, a wider range of uses permitted.

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So again, heritage properties would benefit from a wider range of allowable uses,

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which may also create a revenue stream for preservation.

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This is something council have already done through allowing

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additional consideration for BnBs or accessory guest

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accommodations within heritage structure. There's some allowances for that.

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But this is expanding that beyond new low

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risk non-commercial uses to residential heritage properties.

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This is something that we highlighted.

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Obviously, introducing commercial uses, in residential

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districts is a big no-no from the National Parks Act and commercial growth

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management. So this is really introducing some non-commercial low

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risk uses that we don't typically see in residential

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districts, but they may provide a benefit within

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a heritage structure. So those are daycare, public education service,

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private education services, public library and cultural exhibits,

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studios, religious assemblies, government services, natural

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science exhibit uses, or professional financial health and office

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services. Some of these uses do have a bit of a gray area

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around commercial use. But the intent in this

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instance would be that they would be non-commercial in nature.

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And lots of these uses could, depending on who the operator

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is, for example, be deemed commercial versus non-commercial.

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So whether it was a not-for-profit organization or the government,

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so us as a municipality or Parks Canada, for example, operating

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these, then they would not be commercial versus a commercial operator.

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Daycares is a prime example. If I had the Dave Michaels Montessori

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School of, Hard Knocks for eight thousand dollars

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a month,

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that would likely be commercial, whereas the Daycare

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Society, for example, a not-for-profit organization,

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would likely not be deemed commercial.

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So it allows that flexibility for us to discuss with Parks Canada

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individual uses and whether they would be commercial in nature and

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allowable.

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There would also be some additional requirements for these uses.

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Again, they would be in residential districts, so we've proposed to kind of put

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some criteria to set expectations,

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making sure that they would maintain the heritage, character, and appearance of the

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building. Any alterations required to accommodate that use would be

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minimal and compatible with the heritage character of the building.

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A development approving authority would be able to establish limits, for example,

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on the number of employees, visitor attendance, hour of operation, or the

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floor area devoted to the use. So if you think about some of those

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uses like a museum, for example, if we had a heritage home that was

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opened up as a museum, perhaps you might want to limit the hours so that it doesn't

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impact the residential district and surrounding properties.

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So allowing that authority within the land use bylaw.

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And again, managing vehicle traffic and deliveries and parking to make

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sure that it's characteristic of the neighborhood that it would be in.

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Also limiting the sale of goods and services to the public,

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which would not be permitted except where it was clearly ancillary to the primary

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use. A good example would be, say it was a museum that opened

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up in a heritage structure, and they sold maybe some postcards or some

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books related to the heritage aspect, provided it was operated

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obviously by that non-commercial entity.

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The proposal is to include language to allow that.

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And again, any signage would have to be consistent with the land use bylaw.

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These wider range of uses we're proposing would only be

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possible on a property that has been designated through

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bylaw. So really the highest bar to jump over to

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allow these other uses. So that's really the highest bar that we have, is

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to require designation through bylaw, through council bylaw, to

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protect that structure. So for a use that would change, that would not be

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residential for these properties, you would have to designate the property and

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legally protect it through a binding bylaw, and that bylaw gets registered

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on title, and it happens in perpetuity unless council decide to rescind the

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bylaw.

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This is also one of the things that we would recommend that would still fall to

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Municipal Planning Commission. So the development officer would not be able to

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approve these, and that's just to allow more public

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opportunity for input on these non-residential uses.

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Accessory dwellings.

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So heritage properties could benefit from additional housing opportunities

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to really help support the heritage structure.

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At the moment, there's a limit to one for one, so there can't be more

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accessory dwellings than there are primary units on the site.

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So this proposed bylaw removes that limitation.

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And again, that would be opened up to any property that was on

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the heritage

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inventoryAn

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extended timeframe from compliance or bonusing for required housing.

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So this one was tricky, as we highlighted in that January meeting, because

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the tactic that came out of the Heritage Resource Action Plan was almost

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pitting housing against heritage in this instance.

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And so we've tried to work as much as we can to make sure that doesn't happen.

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And so the proposals that's included in the land use bylaw allows

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for required housing obligations to take more time.

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So if there was a commercial or an intensification of use that had a housing

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requirement, rather than the current requirement that that housing has to

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have occupancy basically before the intensification

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happens at the commercial property, just to allow a slightly extended

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timeframe. There's likely not many instances where this

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would apply, because it would predominantly be for heritage

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commercial buildings that were intensifying use.

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Dave White Block, Harmony Lane, for example.

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If they were changing and they had housing requirements, just allowing them a

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slightly extended timeframe to comply with the housing requirements, although

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still requiring that they meet those housing requirements.

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And again, this would be available to any property that is on the inventory

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that includes preservation of the heritage.

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Transfer tools, so we talked about this at great length in the January meeting.

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So heritage homes are often located in high-density residential districts,

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and so really, that means that it incentivizes the

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demolition to maximize the maximum floor area that you can build.

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Because if you have a small heritage structure on site, it's quite hard to fit all

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that extra floor area in and around the heritage building.

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And so this really would allow a property owner to transfer the

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air rights or really the floor area rights

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from the building to another

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property for residential use. So rather than

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demolish the heritage building that's on site to maximize the floor area,

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that we're saying you could maximize that floor area, it just wouldn't be built on

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the same site necessarily, and you could transfer that to another property.

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So we've got some little graphics to show that.

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It's always hard to, again, fill in around existing heritage.

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And so you would donate from the heritage parcel to any other

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residential property and allow that residential property to have

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more floor area than could typically be built on that property,

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provided that you don't exceed height and setbacks.

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So really, you could just fill in the rest of the box that the land use bylaw

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currently limits through floor area, as

491
00:33:44,024 --> 00:33:47,944
long as you don't upset the maximum height or setbacks.

492
00:33:50,384 --> 00:33:54,184
You did provide some additional guidance at the January meeting, and you

493
00:33:54,224 --> 00:33:57,964
wanted to ensure that this residential floor area can be transferred to any

494
00:33:58,024 --> 00:34:01,564
of our lower density districts, and so the bylaw

495
00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:05,364
proposes that, and here's just a quick map guide of where those

496
00:34:05,384 --> 00:34:08,955
lower density districts are. So this proposal for

497
00:34:09,024 --> 00:34:12,584
transfer of the floor area for residential uses, it couldn't be

498
00:34:12,644 --> 00:34:15,124
transferred to any of these areas in red.

499
00:34:15,464 --> 00:34:19,064
So it could be transferred from, but it couldn't be transferred to any of

500
00:34:19,124 --> 00:34:20,384
those districts.

501
00:34:22,245 --> 00:34:24,444
Sorry, Mr. Michaels, can you say that last part just one more time?

502
00:34:24,473 --> 00:34:24,784
About

503
00:34:26,384 --> 00:34:27,344
where is it going to and from?

504
00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:31,544
Yes. So these would be limits to the receiving sites.

505
00:34:31,725 --> 00:34:35,685
So the sites getting more floor area and building above the maximum

506
00:34:35,745 --> 00:34:38,185
density couldn't go to any of these areas in red.

507
00:34:38,765 --> 00:34:41,765
However, if there was a heritage structure in one of these, it could do the

508
00:34:41,824 --> 00:34:45,004
reverse. They could give their floor area to a

509
00:34:45,044 --> 00:34:48,834
different property, although having said that, there aren't many

510
00:34:48,864 --> 00:34:52,284
heritage structures within these districts at this point in time.

511
00:34:52,984 --> 00:34:54,584
Wait another 50 years and there might be.

512
00:34:59,464 --> 00:35:03,164
So again, with those transfer tools, making sure that building height and

513
00:35:03,224 --> 00:35:04,384
setbacks on the receiving

514
00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:08,764
site are complied with. So that property

515
00:35:09,364 --> 00:35:13,084
that's receiving that additional floor area, yes, they could build more than the

516
00:35:13,124 --> 00:35:16,744
bylaw says today, but provided they don't exceed the

517
00:35:16,824 --> 00:35:20,644
height and the setback, which is really the overall building form

518
00:35:21,744 --> 00:35:23,164
in the district that's receiving it.

519
00:35:25,164 --> 00:35:28,744
And again, because this is quite a valuable tool, and this would really

520
00:35:28,984 --> 00:35:31,924
sterilize the property with the heritage on

521
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:36,804
forever. If you said, "Okay, you could build a maximum floor

522
00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:40,864
area here," but now you're transferring that to another site, we

523
00:35:40,904 --> 00:35:44,444
want to ensure that that doesn't ever come back because you've given it

524
00:35:44,524 --> 00:35:48,244
away. And so really this would also only be allowed for a

525
00:35:48,264 --> 00:35:51,064
designated property, so through protection bylaw.

526
00:35:51,724 --> 00:35:55,564
But we're also suggesting another legal instrument that also

527
00:35:55,614 --> 00:35:59,544
protects. So not necessarily a designating bylaw, but something

528
00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:02,944
similar that protects that building and makes sure there's no

529
00:36:03,104 --> 00:36:06,084
demolition to that heritage structure.

530
00:36:08,884 --> 00:36:10,764
Land use bylaw amendments town wide.

531
00:36:10,824 --> 00:36:13,064
So again, another tactic from HRAP.

532
00:36:14,164 --> 00:36:17,724
So heritage properties often don't comply with the land use bylaw

533
00:36:18,184 --> 00:36:21,724
for a number of reasons. Setback is usually the one that doesn't

534
00:36:21,764 --> 00:36:22,644
comply with.

535
00:36:23,444 --> 00:36:27,284
And so rather than requiring that a variance is considered every

536
00:36:27,344 --> 00:36:31,214
time, what we've proposed in this is really taking

537
00:36:31,284 --> 00:36:34,764
away the need for a variance for heritage properties, more

538
00:36:34,844 --> 00:36:37,304
specifically to height and setbacks.

539
00:36:38,224 --> 00:36:41,854
There aren't many heritage properties that don't comply with height requirements,

540
00:36:41,924 --> 00:36:44,124
with the exception in our CD district.

541
00:36:45,164 --> 00:36:49,064
So really it's just taking away the need to vary those and just

542
00:36:49,104 --> 00:36:52,254
saying, "If you've got a heritage building that currently doesn't comply with

543
00:36:52,324 --> 00:36:56,184
setback or heights, that's fine." That's really what we're doing with this bylaw.

544
00:36:56,704 --> 00:37:00,544
We had talked about what we called a heritage modifier in January, but as

545
00:37:00,584 --> 00:37:03,924
we worked through the language, we felt that it'd just be simpler to say

546
00:37:03,984 --> 00:37:07,944
that for setbacksThat any

547
00:37:08,044 --> 00:37:11,584
heritage structure could project into the setbacks to

548
00:37:11,624 --> 00:37:14,664
facilitate site-specific conditions.

549
00:37:15,924 --> 00:37:16,924
And for building height,

550
00:37:19,284 --> 00:37:22,684
in the land use bylaw, we have different height requirements, especially in our

551
00:37:22,703 --> 00:37:26,284
commercial district, where we talk about height to the midpoint of the

552
00:37:26,324 --> 00:37:30,144
roof, top of a flat roof, number of stories,

553
00:37:31,084 --> 00:37:33,924
or the eave line, cornice line of a building.

554
00:37:34,224 --> 00:37:38,084
In the land use bylaw, we say the most restrictive of any of those when

555
00:37:38,124 --> 00:37:38,824
there's multiple.

556
00:37:39,684 --> 00:37:43,204
So our proposed language is, for heritage is the most permissive would

557
00:37:43,264 --> 00:37:43,784
apply.

558
00:37:46,344 --> 00:37:50,233
And again, this would really apply to any heritage-related development that's

559
00:37:50,264 --> 00:37:54,004
on the inventory, provided that they're doing some form of conservation to that

560
00:37:54,044 --> 00:37:54,944
heritage structure.

561
00:37:56,944 --> 00:37:59,284
That's really all the tactics that are included

562
00:38:00,104 --> 00:38:02,544
within the land use bylaw, the proposed land use bylaw.

563
00:38:02,924 --> 00:38:06,804
One thing we also highlighted within the report is, should council pass first

564
00:38:06,864 --> 00:38:10,144
reading today, the next step to public hearing, we have minimum

565
00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:14,124
advertising requirements that we go through for any land use bylaw amendment

566
00:38:14,164 --> 00:38:18,064
for the public hearing. We have provided some options for

567
00:38:18,074 --> 00:38:21,954
additional budgetary implications for additional advertising,

568
00:38:22,224 --> 00:38:24,704
should council want to do any of those.

569
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:29,324
Probably would have to come from budget stabilization, should you want to

570
00:38:30,304 --> 00:38:34,224
suggest any of those additional. One thing we would highlight is the

571
00:38:34,284 --> 00:38:37,984
longer it takes us to get to third reading and a

572
00:38:38,084 --> 00:38:42,074
bylaw approved by Parks Canada, the more heritage structures we're

573
00:38:42,104 --> 00:38:45,543
going to lose. Unfortunately, that's the position that we're in at the moment.

574
00:38:45,764 --> 00:38:48,754
We are seeing a lot of residential development, which is obviously great.

575
00:38:49,584 --> 00:38:52,564
But on some sites, it is at the expense of heritage.

576
00:38:52,604 --> 00:38:56,274
And so all these tactics were developed through that heritage

577
00:38:56,304 --> 00:38:59,864
resource action plan because it was felt that they really would provide additional

578
00:38:59,944 --> 00:39:03,544
incentives to not demolish heritage, to provide more

579
00:39:03,584 --> 00:39:07,324
opportunity where demolishing and building lots of residential isn't the

580
00:39:07,404 --> 00:39:11,364
only option. And so the sooner we can get these bylaw amendments

581
00:39:11,384 --> 00:39:14,544
through, the less chance there is we're going to lose more heritage.

582
00:39:15,004 --> 00:39:18,894
However, obviously, if we do more public notification, then it provides a

583
00:39:18,904 --> 00:39:22,384
greater opportunity for members of the public to become informed on the

584
00:39:22,424 --> 00:39:26,284
changes, the implications, and provide input to you through the public

585
00:39:26,324 --> 00:39:27,464
hearing process.

586
00:39:29,824 --> 00:39:32,604
I'll stop rambling and take any questions.

587
00:39:35,764 --> 00:39:37,364
Thank you very much, Mr. Michaels.

588
00:39:37,764 --> 00:39:41,584
Any questions before we get into first

589
00:39:41,624 --> 00:39:43,124
reading? Councilor Ledwidge.

590
00:39:44,684 --> 00:39:48,164
Thank you, Mr. Michaels. What's the property that's

591
00:39:49,104 --> 00:39:50,064
slated for demolition?

592
00:39:53,804 --> 00:39:57,654
The application we received last week was for 345 Beaver

593
00:39:57,804 --> 00:39:58,124
Street,

594
00:39:59,104 --> 00:40:02,004
just behind the Astor there, the heritage name.

595
00:40:02,324 --> 00:40:04,324
I can't remember off the top of my head.

596
00:40:04,664 --> 00:40:08,324
Unfortunately, there were some issues, and it's structurally actually not a

597
00:40:08,384 --> 00:40:12,304
sound building. So it has to come down because it's

598
00:40:12,324 --> 00:40:13,944
structurally not safe at present.

599
00:40:14,824 --> 00:40:18,584
But it is on the inventory. And yep, the

600
00:40:18,704 --> 00:40:21,764
new property owner is looking to demolish that.

601
00:40:21,784 --> 00:40:22,204
Thank you.

602
00:40:24,504 --> 00:40:26,764
Any other questions? Councilor Fullerton.

603
00:40:27,904 --> 00:40:31,764
Thank you, Mr. Michaels. I'm just curious why the

604
00:40:31,824 --> 00:40:33,764
table of public notification was given to us.

605
00:40:34,324 --> 00:40:36,524
Is that a standard course of action in terms of...

606
00:40:36,624 --> 00:40:40,104
I mean, I'm relatively new to this, but do we usually

607
00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:42,544
provide additional public notification-

608
00:40:43,384 --> 00:40:43,804
Yes

609
00:40:44,024 --> 00:40:45,444
... beyond what's necessary?

610
00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:49,844
I wouldn't say there's a usual. Historically, we haven't been

611
00:40:49,864 --> 00:40:51,864
through many land use bylaw amendments,

612
00:40:53,424 --> 00:40:55,684
as much as we have done in the past three years.

613
00:40:57,884 --> 00:41:00,964
Bed and Breakfast, we did an awful lot of additional public

614
00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:01,884
engagement.

615
00:41:02,824 --> 00:41:06,504
The last bylaw that I believe you saw that was around introducing

616
00:41:06,644 --> 00:41:09,554
day cares within additional districts.

617
00:41:09,644 --> 00:41:13,504
We did no additional public notification above the requirement.

618
00:41:13,584 --> 00:41:17,444
So, it really varies depending on council's interest and desire

619
00:41:17,484 --> 00:41:20,584
to do additional notification on each topic.

620
00:41:20,664 --> 00:41:24,584
So we've always provided those. When we think that there's a topic that

621
00:41:24,644 --> 00:41:28,204
the community are specifically interested in and have discussed a lot,

622
00:41:28,424 --> 00:41:32,314
heritage being one of them. This has the opportunity

623
00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:35,284
to really impact a lot of heritage property owners.

624
00:41:35,464 --> 00:41:38,164
And that's why we went through a lot of engagement through the actual Heritage

625
00:41:38,184 --> 00:41:42,044
Resource Action Plan. So there has been lots of engagement

626
00:41:42,244 --> 00:41:45,764
building up to these tactics. So hopefully, the tactics aren't a surprise to

627
00:41:45,824 --> 00:41:46,124
anyone.

628
00:41:47,204 --> 00:41:50,974
But yes, we typically give you those options should you wish to

629
00:41:51,064 --> 00:41:54,664
do additional notification. For the housing amendments, you

630
00:41:54,744 --> 00:41:58,613
directed us to do a lot of additional things, some of which had additional

631
00:41:58,684 --> 00:42:01,084
budget implications, some of which didn't.

632
00:42:03,624 --> 00:42:05,824
That was very diplomatic. Thank you, Mr. Michaels.

633
00:42:06,664 --> 00:42:10,504
I think just to add a little bit of context from the council perspective,

634
00:42:10,664 --> 00:42:11,364
I would say

635
00:42:12,964 --> 00:42:15,764
depending on the complexity of the

636
00:42:16,564 --> 00:42:20,444
proposed changes, we've had public say, "We just

637
00:42:20,504 --> 00:42:22,524
need more time to understand this.

638
00:42:22,684 --> 00:42:26,384
Who can we give our feedback to?" So what we

639
00:42:26,484 --> 00:42:30,304
really try to do is to create these opportunities for people to better understand

640
00:42:30,324 --> 00:42:34,184
what's being proposed to better inform what they would like to

641
00:42:34,244 --> 00:42:37,984
say at the public hearing. So we kind of, at times, have

642
00:42:38,064 --> 00:42:40,224
added this extra layer to help people

643
00:42:41,264 --> 00:42:45,004
get educated and informed to make their presentation at the public hearing.

644
00:42:45,084 --> 00:42:48,344
But certainly, sometimes it's just a public hearing

645
00:42:48,364 --> 00:42:51,064
where folks are equipped to come and talk.

646
00:42:51,164 --> 00:42:54,944
But in the past, we've deviated depending on the nature of the changes.

647
00:42:56,604 --> 00:42:57,744
Any other questions?

648
00:42:58,844 --> 00:43:02,384
I have one around legal and

649
00:43:02,584 --> 00:43:03,624
Parks Canada. So

650
00:43:04,804 --> 00:43:07,504
can you remind me, have these gone through a legal scan?

651
00:43:08,024 --> 00:43:12,012
No, typically we don't do-Um, legal or

652
00:43:12,052 --> 00:43:15,952
Parks Canada until we get past first reading, because of course, if council didn't

653
00:43:15,972 --> 00:43:17,872
want to proceed, then we

654
00:43:19,212 --> 00:43:21,312
don't do that. However, knowing that

655
00:43:22,112 --> 00:43:26,052
we had some ideas that we would know might set off

656
00:43:26,112 --> 00:43:26,312
some

657
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:28,132
Spidey senses

658
00:43:29,012 --> 00:43:32,872
with Parks Canada. We did have a really good conversation with Parks Canada to try

659
00:43:32,892 --> 00:43:35,492
and understand really what the goalposts were.

660
00:43:35,592 --> 00:43:38,912
I think it's no surprise that commercial development in

661
00:43:38,952 --> 00:43:42,852
residential districts was a no-go, and so we have

662
00:43:42,892 --> 00:43:45,112
had preliminary conversations with Parks Canada.

663
00:43:45,212 --> 00:43:45,352
So,

664
00:43:46,412 --> 00:43:50,252
when they see this bylaw come to them,

665
00:43:50,332 --> 00:43:52,052
I don't think there will be any surprises.

666
00:43:52,932 --> 00:43:56,552
And as soon as or should council pass first reading, then we

667
00:43:56,572 --> 00:44:00,392
will circulate both to Parks Canada for comment, as we did with the

668
00:44:00,412 --> 00:44:04,392
B&Bs. And you may recall, we got some comments back

669
00:44:04,932 --> 00:44:08,272
ahead of second reading, and some amendments were made at second reading based on

670
00:44:08,352 --> 00:44:11,572
Parks Canada's comments. We would do the same thing in this process.

671
00:44:11,652 --> 00:44:12,832
Should you pass first reading,

672
00:44:13,632 --> 00:44:17,592
we would circulate to both Parks Canada and to legal just to have a review

673
00:44:17,652 --> 00:44:21,512
of those. And anything that came up from those, we would recommend changes

674
00:44:21,592 --> 00:44:22,932
at second or third reading.

675
00:44:24,672 --> 00:44:27,692
Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions?

676
00:44:28,692 --> 00:44:30,372
Okay. Oh, Councilor Backhouse.

677
00:44:32,292 --> 00:44:34,532
I'm just trying to get a little bit more clarity on...

678
00:44:34,692 --> 00:44:38,512
And I know it's all kind of hypothetical, but, it's noted that the

679
00:44:38,532 --> 00:44:41,972
Banff Heritage Corporation is potentially planning a heritage

680
00:44:42,072 --> 00:44:45,692
symposium for September. I'm wondering

681
00:44:45,872 --> 00:44:49,592
timeline. Does that fit in with any of

682
00:44:49,652 --> 00:44:49,912
this?

683
00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:55,612
It could do. It would be up to council's direction.

684
00:44:56,432 --> 00:44:58,632
The intent of the symposium is really,

685
00:45:01,072 --> 00:45:03,292
we're the Heritage Corporation, and this is what we do.

686
00:45:03,412 --> 00:45:05,392
Some more of that kind of public

687
00:45:06,992 --> 00:45:08,992
promotion of heritage.

688
00:45:10,332 --> 00:45:10,732
The

689
00:45:11,592 --> 00:45:15,112
benefit, you could wait to have public hearing till after

690
00:45:15,172 --> 00:45:18,972
September and kind of piggyback off that symposium and provide some

691
00:45:19,012 --> 00:45:22,652
information. The challenge is that it might get confusing,

692
00:45:22,732 --> 00:45:26,452
because there are already some tools and tactics that are in place today

693
00:45:27,212 --> 00:45:31,152
that the Heritage Corporation want to promote, and this isn't yet in

694
00:45:31,232 --> 00:45:32,412
place. So,

695
00:45:33,232 --> 00:45:37,142
it could be beneficial to wait and provide all that information, but it could also

696
00:45:37,232 --> 00:45:40,832
be beneficial to try and get these bylaw amendments ahead of that, so

697
00:45:40,892 --> 00:45:44,852
that when they have their symposium, they can say, "Here's the heritage

698
00:45:44,972 --> 00:45:48,622
grant. Here's all the things we're doing, and the land use bylaw has also changed,

699
00:45:48,652 --> 00:45:52,552
and these are the other things you can do," rather than that be kind

700
00:45:52,592 --> 00:45:55,032
of still in the works and not yet implemented.

701
00:45:55,132 --> 00:45:58,772
So, it plays into it in that it's an opportunity

702
00:45:58,812 --> 00:46:02,752
to provide information, and whether that's ahead of a bylaw or post a

703
00:46:02,772 --> 00:46:06,592
bylaw, that's really what we're seeking direction from on

704
00:46:06,812 --> 00:46:07,532
terms of timing.

705
00:46:10,092 --> 00:46:11,932
Thank you. Any other questions?

706
00:46:13,472 --> 00:46:16,872
Okay. Then could I please have someone move

707
00:46:17,092 --> 00:46:20,762
bylaw 497 be introduced and read a first

708
00:46:20,852 --> 00:46:23,392
time? Councilor Backhouse. Thank you.

709
00:46:25,152 --> 00:46:28,072
Just as a reminder, no amendments can be made at first reading.

710
00:46:30,092 --> 00:46:33,272
Move that bylaw 497, land use bylaw

711
00:46:33,532 --> 00:46:37,632
amendment,

712
00:46:37,742 --> 00:46:39,322
heritage conservation

713
00:46:41,992 --> 00:46:44,692
tools be introduced and read for the first time.

714
00:46:46,252 --> 00:46:49,472
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on the motion?

715
00:46:50,972 --> 00:46:51,852
All in favor?

716
00:46:53,572 --> 00:46:56,132
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

717
00:46:57,392 --> 00:47:01,232
Could I please have someone now direct administration to schedule a

718
00:47:01,272 --> 00:47:04,952
public hearing for proposed bylaw 497? Councilor Standish.

719
00:47:05,092 --> 00:47:05,652
Thank you.

720
00:47:07,592 --> 00:47:09,932
We don't need a date for that at this stage.

721
00:47:11,512 --> 00:47:11,832
Okay.

722
00:47:15,592 --> 00:47:18,912
I move that council direct administration to schedule a public hearing for proposed

723
00:47:18,952 --> 00:47:22,072
bylaw 497 in accordance with the Municipal Government Act.

724
00:47:24,152 --> 00:47:27,422
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on that motion?

725
00:47:29,112 --> 00:47:29,712
Councilor Standish?

726
00:47:30,631 --> 00:47:34,472
If I could just give my personal opinion, I'd like to see the public

727
00:47:34,492 --> 00:47:36,612
hearing sooner rather than later.

728
00:47:39,812 --> 00:47:40,672
Thank you. Does it

729
00:47:41,912 --> 00:47:43,152
help then to put a date

730
00:47:44,212 --> 00:47:46,052
in here?

731
00:47:51,092 --> 00:47:51,312
You-

732
00:47:54,632 --> 00:47:57,732
Yes. So you can put a date in,

733
00:47:58,552 --> 00:48:00,632
or we can work with staff and

734
00:48:01,692 --> 00:48:04,632
find a convenient date with that direction of as soon as

735
00:48:04,672 --> 00:48:08,592
possible. The difficulty is if you name a specific

736
00:48:08,652 --> 00:48:12,512
date right now, then that is the date, but it has been

737
00:48:12,532 --> 00:48:13,872
done before if you wish to

738
00:48:14,872 --> 00:48:14,912
do that.

739
00:48:14,952 --> 00:48:18,052
Oh, I see. Well, we better let you sort it because there's the

740
00:48:18,732 --> 00:48:20,612
advertising requirements and the-

741
00:48:20,752 --> 00:48:20,772
Yeah

742
00:48:20,852 --> 00:48:23,572
... newspaper deadlines, and we need to work backwards.

743
00:48:23,652 --> 00:48:23,712
So,

744
00:48:24,852 --> 00:48:28,342
understood that we want to try and do this as soon as possible, but we won't set

745
00:48:28,372 --> 00:48:29,722
that date today.

746
00:48:29,772 --> 00:48:33,632
Okay. Yeah. We will look at that, try and set a

747
00:48:33,712 --> 00:48:34,672
date, and

748
00:48:35,572 --> 00:48:37,502
let council know. And if there's any issues,

749
00:48:38,652 --> 00:48:39,232
we can amend that.

750
00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:43,212
Thank you. Any other discussion about it? Councilor Ramm?

751
00:48:45,432 --> 00:48:47,212
Yeah. Sorry, just for clarity as well.

752
00:48:47,312 --> 00:48:51,152
So we're passing that we go to a public hearing.

753
00:48:51,512 --> 00:48:54,992
So then in regards to public notification, is that then coming next if that's what

754
00:48:55,032 --> 00:48:55,712
we wanted to see?

755
00:48:56,572 --> 00:48:59,692
That's a great question in terms of sequencing. Yes.

756
00:48:59,722 --> 00:49:03,592
So that would be an upcoming motion to

757
00:49:03,632 --> 00:49:07,552
potentially reopen the budget to potentially

758
00:49:07,612 --> 00:49:11,608
set some kind of publicOne should learn

759
00:49:11,668 --> 00:49:15,428
or what have you. So that would be the following conversation. So yeah, good point.

760
00:49:15,528 --> 00:49:18,648
If there needs to be space for that, we better not set a date.

761
00:49:18,688 --> 00:49:20,048
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking as well.

762
00:49:20,108 --> 00:49:23,848
I think, when we've talked about communications and really ensuring,

763
00:49:23,968 --> 00:49:27,087
especially when it comes to Heritage Resource Action Plan,

764
00:49:29,388 --> 00:49:31,948
it's extremely important for a lot of residents.

765
00:49:32,048 --> 00:49:33,808
So, as we've heard before,

766
00:49:34,748 --> 00:49:38,448
summer is a sprint and so really ensuring that

767
00:49:38,508 --> 00:49:42,008
people can be as active and engaged as they can.

768
00:49:42,888 --> 00:49:44,168
I would just be hesitant to put a date.

769
00:49:44,228 --> 00:49:47,228
I absolutely hear Councilor Standish in regards to making sure that we're getting

770
00:49:47,268 --> 00:49:50,788
it done, especially when we received an application as of last week.

771
00:49:50,888 --> 00:49:54,638
I just want to ensure that the public are well aware, they

772
00:49:54,748 --> 00:49:58,678
have time to give their feedback, and they also can put it in their calendar

773
00:49:58,708 --> 00:50:02,088
while not sprinting during the summer, is my only concern.

774
00:50:02,228 --> 00:50:04,648
But regardless, I will support going forward.

775
00:50:07,068 --> 00:50:10,938
Thank you. Anything else on the motion to set a public

776
00:50:10,968 --> 00:50:11,228
hearing?

777
00:50:12,568 --> 00:50:14,188
Seeing none, all in favor?

778
00:50:15,868 --> 00:50:19,447
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

779
00:50:19,528 --> 00:50:23,348
So then to Councilor Ram's point, the next part of this conversation could be

780
00:50:23,508 --> 00:50:24,168
about

781
00:50:26,088 --> 00:50:29,448
putting some budget into additional public

782
00:50:29,508 --> 00:50:33,448
engagement. So is there anybody who would like to make the motion to

783
00:50:33,508 --> 00:50:37,068
look at reopening the budget? And then the next motion would

784
00:50:37,108 --> 00:50:40,628
be to have that expenditure, and we can

785
00:50:40,668 --> 00:50:44,608
pick which one at that stage. But step one would be to reopen the budget and

786
00:50:44,648 --> 00:50:48,568
have the conversation. But if no one wants to reopen the budget, then we're done.

787
00:50:51,128 --> 00:50:54,848
Looks like we're done. Everybody get yourselves educated, and please come on

788
00:50:54,908 --> 00:50:58,868
down to the public hearing, and we'll be ready to take your feedback

789
00:50:58,908 --> 00:50:59,128
then.

790
00:51:00,628 --> 00:51:02,728
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Michaels.

791
00:51:09,088 --> 00:51:12,018
Next on our agenda is

792
00:51:12,368 --> 00:51:15,488
7.3, Request for Direction,

793
00:51:15,708 --> 00:51:18,548
Destination Stewardship Council.

794
00:51:18,848 --> 00:51:20,527
Good afternoon, Mr. Entz.

795
00:51:24,208 --> 00:51:25,288
Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

796
00:51:26,048 --> 00:51:29,888
So I'm going to speak to the report that's in your agenda package, if you just give

797
00:51:29,928 --> 00:51:31,308
me a moment here to get organized.

798
00:51:33,148 --> 00:51:37,028
And so on page 54 of 68 is a report for your

799
00:51:37,068 --> 00:51:40,748
consideration on establishment or moving forward with a Destination

800
00:51:40,828 --> 00:51:42,948
Stewardship Council initiative.

801
00:51:43,508 --> 00:51:46,848
I've highlighted a few key elements for your consideration.

802
00:51:46,908 --> 00:51:50,788
The legislative basis for this is a motion made back

803
00:51:50,828 --> 00:51:52,388
in December of 2024,

804
00:51:53,308 --> 00:51:53,608
that

805
00:51:54,608 --> 00:51:57,528
asked administration to return with a process to move forward with the

806
00:51:57,548 --> 00:51:59,628
establishment of a Destination Stewardship Council.

807
00:52:00,228 --> 00:52:03,038
I would add to this that since then, this direction was

808
00:52:03,108 --> 00:52:06,968
also reinforced through the draft Banff Community Plan,

809
00:52:06,988 --> 00:52:09,008
which references this initiative as well.

810
00:52:09,028 --> 00:52:11,478
So that's something that doesn't appear in this report, but is just for your

811
00:52:11,508 --> 00:52:15,328
interest is that the community plan also references this initiative.

812
00:52:17,548 --> 00:52:19,648
So what is a Destination Stewardship Council?

813
00:52:19,708 --> 00:52:21,488
I tried to provide you with a bit of a

814
00:52:22,288 --> 00:52:26,248
glimpse into that. They're primarily interagency groups that are intended to help

815
00:52:26,288 --> 00:52:28,388
their members, and I'll just read from the report.

816
00:52:28,478 --> 00:52:32,058
"Take a multi-stakeholder approach to maintain the cultural,

817
00:52:32,188 --> 00:52:35,788
environmental, economic, and aesthetic integrity of their country, region, or

818
00:52:35,848 --> 00:52:39,627
town." And so we've tried to provide you with a few

819
00:52:40,028 --> 00:52:43,568
snapshots of different Destination Stewardship Councils that

820
00:52:43,608 --> 00:52:46,668
exist. They're often established in the United States, for

821
00:52:46,688 --> 00:52:49,228
example, often around protected areas.

822
00:52:50,248 --> 00:52:52,437
Some of these councils are quite

823
00:52:53,368 --> 00:52:54,128
a large tent,

824
00:52:55,108 --> 00:52:58,768
and others are maybe more like a backpacking tent, moving a bit more lean.

825
00:52:58,778 --> 00:53:02,678
And so there's lots of different models that you can adopt, and we wanted to put a

826
00:53:02,708 --> 00:53:06,568
few forward so you can get a sense of what it might look like for Banff.

827
00:53:06,657 --> 00:53:10,568
And that's really the point of this initial exercise, is trying to figure out what

828
00:53:10,668 --> 00:53:14,228
our potential Bow Valley Destination Stewardship Council would look like.

829
00:53:14,448 --> 00:53:15,068
That's really the

830
00:53:15,928 --> 00:53:18,088
first step in moving this forward.

831
00:53:20,108 --> 00:53:23,788
At a minimum, our anticipation as administration would be that it would

832
00:53:23,908 --> 00:53:27,868
have to include key municipal actors and the federal government as an

833
00:53:27,948 --> 00:53:28,548
absolute.

834
00:53:29,448 --> 00:53:32,468
The reason that tourism exists in the Bow Valley is because we are in a national

835
00:53:32,528 --> 00:53:34,908
park. And so having a national park

836
00:53:35,708 --> 00:53:38,628
presence in this initiative seems like a

837
00:53:40,088 --> 00:53:43,888
have to have from our perspective in terms of being of value to the

838
00:53:43,908 --> 00:53:44,588
discussion.

839
00:53:48,628 --> 00:53:51,848
I didn't highlight it, but with most of these Destination Stewardship Councils,

840
00:53:51,928 --> 00:53:55,448
they're not intended to create a new level of government or

841
00:53:55,748 --> 00:53:57,868
reduce or remove any autonomy.

842
00:53:58,988 --> 00:54:00,708
It's more important to have

843
00:54:01,568 --> 00:54:04,108
key actors in a room that are establishing dialogue.

844
00:54:04,148 --> 00:54:06,928
And interestingly, that doesn't always occur in the Bow Valley.

845
00:54:07,008 --> 00:54:10,758
We have different, for example, tourism agencies between Canmore and

846
00:54:10,828 --> 00:54:14,708
Banff. We have different jurisdictions from federal to provincial, that

847
00:54:14,768 --> 00:54:17,868
are at the east gate. And there aren't

848
00:54:17,888 --> 00:54:21,828
that many forums where we all get together and sit in the same room and

849
00:54:21,868 --> 00:54:24,288
have a discussion about key tourism issues.

850
00:54:24,988 --> 00:54:28,198
And one of the interesting phenomena that we've seen over the last half century is

851
00:54:28,428 --> 00:54:30,568
the effect of tourism moving down valley.

852
00:54:31,368 --> 00:54:34,528
Banff is no longer the only service center for the National Park.

853
00:54:34,568 --> 00:54:38,488
It's literally, as I like to say, Banff's newest hotels are being built on Bow

854
00:54:38,548 --> 00:54:41,968
Valley Trail in Canmore. That's what tourism looks like today

855
00:54:42,488 --> 00:54:43,428
and will only continue.

856
00:54:44,368 --> 00:54:44,548
So,

857
00:54:45,568 --> 00:54:49,508
from administration's perspective, there is value in creating a forum where

858
00:54:49,588 --> 00:54:51,108
we can sit together,

859
00:54:52,348 --> 00:54:56,268
and this is a chance to help council get a sense of

860
00:54:56,288 --> 00:54:59,188
what that might look like, what the purpose and intent are,

861
00:55:00,608 --> 00:55:01,908
discuss potential membership,

862
00:55:03,108 --> 00:55:06,088
and have somebody facilitate the initial steps to this process.

863
00:55:06,138 --> 00:55:09,888
This needs to be a collaborative effort as opposed to one being led by any

864
00:55:09,968 --> 00:55:11,728
single municipality or jurisdiction.

865
00:55:12,808 --> 00:55:15,988
And often that creates a bit of a chicken and egg scenario where you're trying to

866
00:55:17,128 --> 00:55:20,968
get something going. And so the request today is for some initial seed

867
00:55:21,048 --> 00:55:24,108
funding to procure some services to

868
00:55:24,148 --> 00:55:26,720
helpFacilitate this foundational work.

869
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:31,920
Administration's suggestion is that we move deliberatively

870
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,340
and incrementally. And so our initial thought was to try to help

871
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:39,640
establish the terms of reference for such a group, bring it back to council for

872
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,630
their consideration,

873
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,280
and determine whether or not it's something that you'd like to move forward to once

874
00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:48,020
it has a bit more shape to it. So right now it's

875
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,970
fairly, I would suggest, in its infancy, and

876
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,250
the deal would be to try to

877
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,790
help put a bit more meat on the bone to determine whether or not you would

878
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,720
like to keep moving forward with this initiative.

879
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:05,020
So, the seed money would be used for procuring consulting

880
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:07,809
services to help facilitate this discussion.

881
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:11,610
In other situations like this, we've often moved in a collaborative

882
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,550
format with partners. I'm trying to think about some emergency services

883
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,640
positions and other initiatives that we've taken, and we've had joint procurement

884
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,629
panels and things like that. That seems like a logical way to advance this

885
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:23,300
process as well.

886
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:26,220
So with that, happy to take any questions from council.

887
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,830
Thank you very much, Mr. Enns. Any questions?

888
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,440
Councilor Pelm and then Councilor Standish.

889
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:36,740
Thanks.

890
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,920
Just at the end of your presentation,

891
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:44,960
you mentioned the idea of a joint procurement panel, and I think that

892
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,650
was one of my key questions about this is the way

893
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,430
this document is written, it kind of seemed like

894
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,840
it was an individual procurement

895
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,020
process that the town of Banff would be taking on.

896
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,260
So I was kind of curious about that because Canmore has

897
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,360
already

898
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:07,920
leaned in and is very keen to participate.

899
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:11,820
So could you explain how a joint

900
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,480
procurement panel would

901
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,140
function and...

902
00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:18,920
Yeah.

903
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,270
Sure. I'll maybe start, and I can think of examples,

904
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,220
like on the Bow Valley

905
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,920
shared emergency evacuation study.

906
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:31,280
I'm mixing up the words here. It was grant funded,

907
00:57:32,460 --> 00:57:35,889
but a chance for us to work together with colleagues in the Bow Valley.

908
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:39,509
It's a bit challenging in the sense that each municipality has their own

909
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,940
procurement policy and standards.

910
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,480
As you know, you as council have your own procurement

911
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:45,080
policy,

912
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,490
and so there needs to be a bit of a discussion to determine how to move that

913
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,060
forward with partners.

914
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:55,820
And the thought was that it makes more sense for us to do this

915
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,260
in a collaborative fashion than as individuals, each sort of doing our

916
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:04,949
own thing. And so the more that we can do that, the better, and we'd have to have

917
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:06,340
that conversation with our colleagues

918
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,220
amongst those key partners.

919
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,600
On that, would that collaboration be with town of

920
00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:17,320
Canmore administration or with elected officials?

921
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,060
What does that framework look like?

922
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:26,520
Well, this is a little bit of a different

923
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,860
situation. The collaboration on procurement would definitely be

924
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:34,220
administrative though. That is not often that council

925
00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:37,440
procures things directly.

926
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:43,240
And really, this direction, and I believe when we approved it in

927
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:47,380
budget, the emergency services position, you approved half a position.

928
00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:51,910
Canmore approved the other half position because you can't approve things for the

929
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,860
town of Canmore.

930
00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:57,560
So the collaboration is something that will be a part of this,

931
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:03,240
and we'll have discussions on how to proceed administratively

932
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,440
with them as well. This is a unique

933
00:59:07,449 --> 00:59:09,090
project in the sense that

934
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,100
we are asking for a council rep to be a part of this as well.

935
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,200
So there will be discussions with elected officials as

936
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,420
well and how this could be looked at. As Mr.

937
00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:22,980
Enns said, it's

938
00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:27,500
very important for us, for Parks, the federal government to be here

939
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:31,380
as a part of it, so there would likely be some discussions.

940
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,330
But first and foremost, the discussions would be with Canmore, and we could

941
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,350
figure it out from there.

942
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,430
Councilor Standish.

943
00:59:41,420 --> 00:59:43,850
Thank you. Mr. Enns, just some clarity.

944
00:59:44,860 --> 00:59:47,680
Can you tell me the correlation between

945
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,080
this Bow Valley Destination Stewardship Group and what we're going to be doing

946
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,620
with human use management?

947
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,320
The overlap, perhaps.

948
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,780
Yeah, it's a great question, and the human use management

949
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,680
initiative that council approved was focused on what

950
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,530
can the town of Banff do within our own authorities to manage human use in the

951
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,280
future. And so as we're moving forward with

952
01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:16,480
implementation of that, that's one of the first critical questions, and it really

953
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,840
involves drawing the box around what we can control as a municipality.

954
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,180
And that's actually relatively narrow in terms

955
01:00:25,220 --> 01:00:28,020
of what we can do, and there's a lot of authorities that we don't have.

956
01:00:28,060 --> 01:00:31,560
For example, managing the number of visitors that come to our town is not within

957
01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:32,200
our authority.

958
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:37,280
But it is within others' authority, and that's

959
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:41,060
important because the Destination Stewardship Council affords the

960
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:44,660
chance for all those partners to tell their own story about what they're doing and

961
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,860
share their own initiatives. And so

962
01:00:47,780 --> 01:00:51,340
I would say the human use management framework that you approved is highly

963
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,000
focused on what the town of Banff can do within our own

964
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:58,340
authorities, whereas the Destination Stewardship Council is about

965
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:02,840
creating a dialogue for others to share what they might be doing so that we can all

966
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,170
be enriched by that information and not be surprised by initiatives that others are

967
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:07,510
taking.

968
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,000
Thanks. Any questions? Councilor Backhouse.

969
01:01:15,980 --> 01:01:18,920
Thank you for asking that because I had that question on my mind.

970
01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:23,540
These are great examples of who has participated.

971
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,080
I like the

972
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,760
scale of

973
01:01:26,664 --> 01:01:27,504
Big and small,

974
01:01:28,304 --> 01:01:32,264
who has shown interest, and how far are we going

975
01:01:32,364 --> 01:01:36,124
for destination stewardship? I really love some First

976
01:01:36,204 --> 01:01:40,054
Nations mentioned on here, but who's shown interest so far of a

977
01:01:40,064 --> 01:01:40,754
partnership or...

978
01:01:42,664 --> 01:01:46,384
So there hasn't really been a formal discussion of that yet.

979
01:01:46,514 --> 01:01:50,084
So there's not a body out there. I'm not sure.

980
01:01:50,144 --> 01:01:53,923
Canmore may have had some conversations after their

981
01:01:54,744 --> 01:01:58,024
initial, when it went to their council.

982
01:01:59,164 --> 01:02:01,824
I'm sure there would be lots interested in it.

983
01:02:01,964 --> 01:02:05,604
I think it's important to have some of those grounding

984
01:02:05,624 --> 01:02:08,724
discussions first. How do we start off, how do we set this up?

985
01:02:10,064 --> 01:02:13,863
If it's decided that yes, it should go large and then small, or

986
01:02:14,224 --> 01:02:17,334
large and figure it out or keep it small, figure it out,

987
01:02:18,364 --> 01:02:20,504
we would come back to council with that,

988
01:02:21,384 --> 01:02:25,234
or the council representative would bring that

989
01:02:25,264 --> 01:02:25,564
back.

990
01:02:29,144 --> 01:02:32,664
Thanks. And I guess on that note, so we'll have some motions

991
01:02:32,704 --> 01:02:35,744
here. Let's say this does move forward.

992
01:02:35,884 --> 01:02:38,364
What is the next step?

993
01:02:39,254 --> 01:02:40,844
What does the next step look like for us?

994
01:02:42,684 --> 01:02:46,664
If this is approved, we'll definitely, the

995
01:02:46,684 --> 01:02:47,824
first contact would be

996
01:02:49,104 --> 01:02:52,784
Town of Canmore, to let them know that we have funding for this as well.

997
01:02:54,104 --> 01:02:57,464
And then set up a meeting with the elected

998
01:02:57,484 --> 01:03:01,144
official and administration to have a

999
01:03:01,204 --> 01:03:04,704
conversation about best ways to proceed from

1000
01:03:04,764 --> 01:03:05,544
here.

1001
01:03:06,564 --> 01:03:10,404
And as I mentioned, for Town of Banff, at some

1002
01:03:10,444 --> 01:03:12,944
point we would want Parks to get involved.

1003
01:03:13,324 --> 01:03:17,044
Whether that, in what level, we'd have to look at that.

1004
01:03:17,204 --> 01:03:21,104
But those are discussions that we would have to have, and this is meant to be

1005
01:03:21,164 --> 01:03:22,494
kind of that initial seed money.

1006
01:03:24,044 --> 01:03:26,804
And we would go forward from there.

1007
01:03:28,364 --> 01:03:31,244
Just so council knows, we have been in

1008
01:03:31,304 --> 01:03:35,084
conversation with Town of Canmore, letting them know...

1009
01:03:35,294 --> 01:03:36,864
I spoke to the CAO

1010
01:03:37,844 --> 01:03:40,404
at the beginning of the month, letting them know that it would be coming to this

1011
01:03:40,464 --> 01:03:43,194
meeting after theirs was approved. And I know Mr.

1012
01:03:43,424 --> 01:03:47,384
Enns has shared the reports once it became

1013
01:03:47,424 --> 01:03:47,764
public,

1014
01:03:48,624 --> 01:03:51,204
with the administration in Canmore as well.

1015
01:03:51,324 --> 01:03:51,504
So,

1016
01:03:52,744 --> 01:03:55,764
we would have a follow-up call to arrange a meeting.

1017
01:03:58,484 --> 01:04:01,464
Thank you. And then Parks Canada's been mentioned a couple of times.

1018
01:04:02,584 --> 01:04:04,664
Can you speak to their awareness of this?

1019
01:04:04,804 --> 01:04:08,764
And it sounds like we'd also look to schedule a meeting with

1020
01:04:08,824 --> 01:04:09,224
them

1021
01:04:10,284 --> 01:04:11,824
after this one with the Town of Canmore.

1022
01:04:13,864 --> 01:04:16,784
Yeah. So it has come up at IGL,

1023
01:04:18,024 --> 01:04:20,644
just as a broad conversation.

1024
01:04:21,684 --> 01:04:24,744
We'd want to probably have at least an initial conversation with

1025
01:04:25,584 --> 01:04:29,264
Canmore first to understand where they are at with this process.

1026
01:04:30,804 --> 01:04:34,244
I think Parks wants to be part of the conversation,

1027
01:04:34,724 --> 01:04:38,644
but they've got to understand what it is exactly.

1028
01:04:38,704 --> 01:04:38,904
So there

1029
01:04:41,024 --> 01:04:44,744
are a lot of inter-agency groups out there, so they would need a

1030
01:04:44,784 --> 01:04:47,494
formal proposal, but it wouldn't be appropriate to

1031
01:04:47,494 --> 01:04:51,444
tell Parks what it would be without

1032
01:04:51,544 --> 01:04:53,344
talking at least with Canmore first.

1033
01:04:53,404 --> 01:04:57,064
So we'd want to make sure that we have that conversation, and then,

1034
01:04:57,624 --> 01:05:00,804
we would bring or have a discussion with Parks,

1035
01:05:01,124 --> 01:05:04,604
and possibly others, depending on how that

1036
01:05:04,664 --> 01:05:06,144
initial conversation goes.

1037
01:05:08,804 --> 01:05:10,724
Thank you. Any other questions?

1038
01:05:11,744 --> 01:05:13,504
Councilor Standish and then Councilor Pelham.

1039
01:05:14,924 --> 01:05:18,564
Thank you, Mayor Damiano. Question with regarding the funding that we're

1040
01:05:18,584 --> 01:05:20,864
proposing. Canmore's putting in 40,000.

1041
01:05:21,204 --> 01:05:22,884
We're proposing putting in 25,000.

1042
01:05:25,124 --> 01:05:27,084
Can you give me some insight on...

1043
01:05:30,674 --> 01:05:33,584
First of all, why? Why wouldn't we match what Canmore's doing?

1044
01:05:34,204 --> 01:05:35,644
And is there some concern,

1045
01:05:36,464 --> 01:05:39,124
you might not be able to answer this, but is there concern from Canmore that we're

1046
01:05:39,164 --> 01:05:41,664
not contributing an equal amount?

1047
01:05:44,943 --> 01:05:47,494
Sure. So with respect to the initial funding,

1048
01:05:48,704 --> 01:05:50,404
and it's a fair question, I

1049
01:05:51,484 --> 01:05:55,374
thought I would be asked. I kind of compare it to going to a restaurant and

1050
01:05:55,584 --> 01:05:59,424
ordering the whole meal from appetizer to entrée, dessert all at once versus

1051
01:05:59,504 --> 01:06:03,294
just maybe pacing yourself. And so we thought we should

1052
01:06:03,304 --> 01:06:06,904
maybe pace ourselves and just figure out how we want to move forward here,

1053
01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:11,464
in an incremental fashion. I think Canmore's very excited about this

1054
01:06:11,504 --> 01:06:13,284
initiative, and their funding reflects that.

1055
01:06:14,484 --> 01:06:17,884
Our thought was that if we're moving incrementally, we should figure out what it is

1056
01:06:17,904 --> 01:06:20,644
we're doing and who we're sitting at the table with as a first step.

1057
01:06:20,704 --> 01:06:21,304
That's kind of the

1058
01:06:22,204 --> 01:06:23,664
way to get this started.

1059
01:06:24,844 --> 01:06:28,764
And this is one of the challenges with these initiatives where you have a lot of

1060
01:06:28,784 --> 01:06:32,584
different expectations at the table, is that some might want to move at a

1061
01:06:32,624 --> 01:06:34,024
faster pace than others, which is fair.

1062
01:06:35,164 --> 01:06:37,024
And administration's recommendation is to move

1063
01:06:37,064 --> 01:06:39,164
incrementally.

1064
01:06:41,204 --> 01:06:41,744
Councilor Pelham.

1065
01:06:43,704 --> 01:06:43,984
Thanks.

1066
01:06:44,824 --> 01:06:48,164
Mr. Enns, you referenced the Down Valley

1067
01:06:48,324 --> 01:06:52,194
development and the kind of growth that

1068
01:06:54,524 --> 01:06:57,584
would ultimately impact Banff.

1069
01:06:58,684 --> 01:07:02,504
I was just wondering if you could touch on just some basics that we

1070
01:07:02,524 --> 01:07:02,884
know,

1071
01:07:03,844 --> 01:07:07,304
what's going on in Canmore and Kananaskis

1072
01:07:07,314 --> 01:07:11,084
specifically, and just how do we expect

1073
01:07:11,144 --> 01:07:13,204
that to impact us?

1074
01:07:18,256 --> 01:07:22,206
Sure. So when it comes to, obviously the provincial government has set

1075
01:07:22,256 --> 01:07:25,556
a strong focus on growing the tourism economy in Alberta.

1076
01:07:25,596 --> 01:07:29,416
That's fairly well-known. I can't recite the target off by the

1077
01:07:29,456 --> 01:07:33,366
top of my heart, but it's about growing tourism in Alberta, and they're looking

1078
01:07:33,396 --> 01:07:37,136
at growing tourism beyond the traditional national park bases of

1079
01:07:37,206 --> 01:07:40,596
tourism, and that includes things like the All-Seasons Resorts Act, which helps

1080
01:07:40,656 --> 01:07:44,376
with development down into the Kananaskis Valley, and we've seen some

1081
01:07:44,436 --> 01:07:48,096
applications or some discussion about projects that might come

1082
01:07:48,176 --> 01:07:52,116
forward. And that, if those were to come to fruition, would

1083
01:07:52,216 --> 01:07:55,176
stretch the tourism footprint in an eastward direction.

1084
01:07:55,236 --> 01:07:58,396
I think that's actually the intent of these initiatives.

1085
01:07:59,196 --> 01:08:02,656
And in doing so, the visitor never sees jurisdiction.

1086
01:08:02,676 --> 01:08:04,926
They just see what they want to do. And

1087
01:08:05,976 --> 01:08:09,746
if you go on some hotel websites, they'll tell you that the Kananaskis

1088
01:08:09,776 --> 01:08:13,596
hotels are in Banff. It's just this perception of this area of

1089
01:08:13,636 --> 01:08:15,545
Banff as anything with a mountain behind it.

1090
01:08:17,196 --> 01:08:20,797
And so, because the visitor doesn't see that, but there are all these

1091
01:08:20,837 --> 01:08:24,556
jurisdictional divides, you end up with a really sometimes disaggregated experience

1092
01:08:24,637 --> 01:08:27,316
as you're trying to explain to them, "Well, oh, actually you need one pass to go

1093
01:08:27,337 --> 01:08:30,996
into that place, another pass to go here, and then another pass here." And

1094
01:08:31,016 --> 01:08:34,637
that's not a great experience for a visitor. It's not a great management tool.

1095
01:08:35,666 --> 01:08:39,016
And some of these things these councils can do is work on trying new share

1096
01:08:39,076 --> 01:08:41,696
initiatives and try to come up with shared approaches to managing

1097
01:08:41,856 --> 01:08:43,177
visitation.

1098
01:08:44,816 --> 01:08:47,456
One of the challenges, of course, is where do you stop when you talk about then

1099
01:08:47,496 --> 01:08:51,286
down valley impacts, and there's articles in

1100
01:08:51,316 --> 01:08:55,076
local media this week about people commuting from Cochrane, and that's a real

1101
01:08:55,196 --> 01:08:56,376
fact. But you

1102
01:08:57,496 --> 01:08:57,797
need to

1103
01:09:00,257 --> 01:09:04,177
start somewhere. And I often think starting somewhere means starting

1104
01:09:04,196 --> 01:09:06,876
with a smaller group and a very focused group as opposed to

1105
01:09:07,896 --> 01:09:09,736
casting the net wide to

1106
01:09:11,797 --> 01:09:13,816
hundreds of kilometers down valley, which doesn't

1107
01:09:14,616 --> 01:09:16,137
maybe not make the sense at the start.

1108
01:09:24,196 --> 01:09:25,276
Anybody else?

1109
01:09:26,396 --> 01:09:30,056
Okay. Then we will get into some motions here.

1110
01:09:30,236 --> 01:09:33,137
So I'll go ahead and move that pursuant to Section

1111
01:09:33,976 --> 01:09:37,156
9.22 of Procedures By-law 44-8,

1112
01:09:37,976 --> 01:09:40,116
revisit Motion COU

1113
01:09:40,696 --> 01:09:43,376
26-128 to approve the amended

1114
01:09:43,496 --> 01:09:47,376
2026-2028 operating budget, which was adopted as

1115
01:09:47,416 --> 01:09:51,076
part of the April 28th regular meeting of council, so as to

1116
01:09:51,096 --> 01:09:54,836
consider further amendments to the amended 2026-2028 operating

1117
01:09:54,856 --> 01:09:58,806
budget. So this is to open up the budget, and then we'll

1118
01:09:58,836 --> 01:10:02,336
have the discussion about this expenditure.

1119
01:10:03,816 --> 01:10:06,675
Any discussion or debate on this motion? Councillor Standish.

1120
01:10:07,336 --> 01:10:11,216
Thank you, Mayor DeMano. I'm not going to support the motion.

1121
01:10:11,956 --> 01:10:11,976
I

1122
01:10:13,716 --> 01:10:15,176
believe that we should be focusing

1123
01:10:17,076 --> 01:10:19,776
on our own human use management state.

1124
01:10:20,576 --> 01:10:23,526
This is the first step, obviously, opening the budget, but I'm going to save time,

1125
01:10:24,136 --> 01:10:26,446
hopefully, and try and convince you that

1126
01:10:27,796 --> 01:10:29,936
I'm not interested in moving this forward at this time.

1127
01:10:30,236 --> 01:10:33,896
Great initiative, but I think we need to focus on our own backyard first.

1128
01:10:34,136 --> 01:10:34,316
Mm-hmm.

1129
01:10:35,716 --> 01:10:39,436
Thanks, Councillor Standish. I appreciate the, "Let's just nip it in the bud right

1130
01:10:39,496 --> 01:10:43,016
here, this motion," and I definitely see your

1131
01:10:43,036 --> 01:10:47,016
perspective as well. I get the concept of trying to

1132
01:10:47,036 --> 01:10:50,716
focus on what we can control, and we are about to

1133
01:10:51,476 --> 01:10:54,976
set out on this big process, which will take a lot

1134
01:10:55,036 --> 01:10:58,846
of time and energy and focus. So I can appreciate trying to do one thing at a

1135
01:10:58,916 --> 01:10:59,136
time.

1136
01:11:00,056 --> 01:11:00,916
Councillor Ludvig.

1137
01:11:02,656 --> 01:11:04,256
Yeah. I'm going to be a fly in the ointment as well.

1138
01:11:04,776 --> 01:11:06,936
There's a lot here that doesn't sit right with me, and

1139
01:11:07,756 --> 01:11:10,696
the first thing, I'm not sure we have a problem that needs a solution.

1140
01:11:12,396 --> 01:11:16,376
Second, this was a two-year-old motion made by a past councilor,

1141
01:11:16,456 --> 01:11:19,256
and that motion was related to post-secondary studies.

1142
01:11:21,716 --> 01:11:22,916
I find that a bit messy.

1143
01:11:24,196 --> 01:11:27,616
Third, I think we already have multi-jurisdictional initiatives dealing with

1144
01:11:27,626 --> 01:11:31,416
destination management, such as a human use management strategy,

1145
01:11:31,596 --> 01:11:35,376
which we're about to start, the LLT, other committees such as wildlife.

1146
01:11:36,666 --> 01:11:40,486
And fourth, and maybe most important, it's come up already, if

1147
01:11:40,556 --> 01:11:43,866
this was to happen, and we need to have strong support, particularly

1148
01:11:43,896 --> 01:11:47,516
financial from Parks Canada, prior to us

1149
01:11:47,556 --> 01:11:50,876
considering this, and that is definitely not the case right now, and my

1150
01:11:50,916 --> 01:11:53,976
understanding is that it won't be ponying up.

1151
01:11:55,796 --> 01:11:59,616
So 25K to start for me out of taxpayers' money is not

1152
01:11:59,676 --> 01:12:02,956
trivial, and there's definitely going to be more expenditures down the road.

1153
01:12:04,096 --> 01:12:06,916
I think we have more pressing and practical things to spend money on.

1154
01:12:07,596 --> 01:12:10,066
So I also think we need to postpone this or

1155
01:12:10,916 --> 01:12:13,416
nip it in the bud, to use Councillor Standish's

1156
01:12:14,596 --> 01:12:15,636
words. Thank you.

1157
01:12:17,836 --> 01:12:21,476
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Backhouse.

1158
01:12:23,036 --> 01:12:26,016
Can I ask a clarifying question? I just note that

1159
01:12:27,116 --> 01:12:30,916
with Canmore's $40,000 commitment, they do have a 12-month

1160
01:12:30,996 --> 01:12:31,376
scope.

1161
01:12:32,296 --> 01:12:35,456
Would our funds also be within that same timeframe?

1162
01:12:38,516 --> 01:12:40,596
I think as Mr. Hands said,

1163
01:12:41,396 --> 01:12:44,216
we were looking at a smaller section of this.

1164
01:12:44,256 --> 01:12:45,396
So no, we were looking at

1165
01:12:47,016 --> 01:12:50,576
kind of that initial phase, get a sense of what this

1166
01:12:50,656 --> 01:12:53,476
was, and then come back to council

1167
01:12:54,996 --> 01:12:58,916
for additional funds. We would require additional funds if this

1168
01:12:58,956 --> 01:13:00,116
were to go forward likely,

1169
01:13:01,376 --> 01:13:03,616
but it was more of a check-in point,

1170
01:13:04,656 --> 01:13:08,156
and more of a controlled check-in point because we couldn't go to the next stage

1171
01:13:08,276 --> 01:13:12,136
without coming back and identifying, making sure that

1172
01:13:13,076 --> 01:13:15,256
council understood what it was and wanted to move forward.

1173
01:13:15,996 --> 01:13:17,876
So it would be a shorter term, for sure.

1174
01:13:20,796 --> 01:13:21,316
Councillor Ram.

1175
01:13:22,996 --> 01:13:25,056
Thank you. I'm going to support this.

1176
01:13:26,036 --> 01:13:29,756
One, similar to what admin said, this is

1177
01:13:29,776 --> 01:13:33,556
written into our community plan. I hear you when it was first brought up

1178
01:13:33,616 --> 01:13:37,566
from a previous council member, and previous term council as

1179
01:13:37,636 --> 01:13:41,376
well. However, the length of

1180
01:13:41,386 --> 01:13:45,316
public engagement feedback was just so massive, and

1181
01:13:45,356 --> 01:13:47,636
it's written into our community plan.

1182
01:13:47,696 --> 01:13:51,056
So for that reason alone, I think it's worth giving a shot.

1183
01:13:51,156 --> 01:13:52,676
So at least for the

1184
01:13:53,736 --> 01:13:57,156
first initial phase, just to see what it's like, I think that we owe it to the

1185
01:13:57,176 --> 01:13:57,686
community

1186
01:13:58,596 --> 01:14:02,276
after that process, specifically, when you look at the foundations as to what we

1187
01:14:02,336 --> 01:14:05,376
have with council, I think we owe it to the community to look at that.

1188
01:14:05,416 --> 01:14:08,816
And I think of whenever we see reports and,

1189
01:14:09,796 --> 01:14:12,976
as I was looking back and when this was also first talked about as well,

1190
01:14:13,416 --> 01:14:17,056
I personally, whenever I ask a question in regards to

1191
01:14:17,076 --> 01:14:20,756
transport or what other people are doing, it's always, "Have you heard from

1192
01:14:20,816 --> 01:14:23,526
Canmore? What are they doing? What are other municipalities doing?

1193
01:14:23,656 --> 01:14:27,266
What are other stakeholders doing?" And I just see this

1194
01:14:27,376 --> 01:14:31,296
as collaborative, and I think we pride ourselves

1195
01:14:31,336 --> 01:14:33,396
on really trying to communicate to others,

1196
01:14:35,076 --> 01:14:37,516
relying on our positive relationships.

1197
01:14:37,596 --> 01:14:41,126
So I see this as just another step. Again, it's not

1198
01:14:42,356 --> 01:14:45,216
long commitment. It's not 10 years, it's not 15.

1199
01:14:45,276 --> 01:14:48,976
It's just trialing it. It's written into our community plan,

1200
01:14:49,116 --> 01:14:51,746
so I'm fully supportive of funding this.

1201
01:14:54,616 --> 01:14:58,376
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate on opening the budget? Councillor Pelham.

1202
01:15:01,036 --> 01:15:03,636
I, too, will support the motion.

1203
01:15:04,616 --> 01:15:08,456
I believe strongly that the

1204
01:15:08,526 --> 01:15:12,236
level of communication that we have with our neighbors down valley

1205
01:15:12,356 --> 01:15:14,006
is essential,

1206
01:15:15,056 --> 01:15:16,256
especially in the next

1207
01:15:18,616 --> 01:15:20,676
few years, five years, 10 years even.

1208
01:15:21,576 --> 01:15:25,146
And I think that it's very important that we are dialoguing and

1209
01:15:25,236 --> 01:15:27,176
collaborating and working together.

1210
01:15:28,016 --> 01:15:31,016
We are in this valley together, and we need

1211
01:15:31,115 --> 01:15:35,056
to be present and contribute,

1212
01:15:35,876 --> 01:15:37,536
and be part of the collective.

1213
01:15:38,616 --> 01:15:41,836
So I definitely will support this motion to open the budget.

1214
01:15:44,356 --> 01:15:47,956
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Fullerton.

1215
01:15:48,796 --> 01:15:52,476
Well, since we're getting into the whole debate on this thing right off the get-go

1216
01:15:52,536 --> 01:15:56,136
here, I might as well jump in. I'm a little hesitant,

1217
01:15:56,496 --> 01:15:58,476
and I appreciate the concerns that have been raised here.

1218
01:15:58,576 --> 01:16:02,396
I'm going to support it just because it's really in its infancy, and what I'm

1219
01:16:02,436 --> 01:16:06,096
hearing from administration, I agree, we're taking a very incremental approach.

1220
01:16:07,196 --> 01:16:10,196
I don't dismiss the $25,000 as a trivial amount of money.

1221
01:16:10,836 --> 01:16:14,625
But I do see there is, from what I'm hearing, some potential benefit in terms

1222
01:16:14,696 --> 01:16:17,656
of this being collaborative and complementary to

1223
01:16:17,716 --> 01:16:21,316
our HUMP initiative we have going forward.

1224
01:16:21,416 --> 01:16:24,816
So, I would like to see some better communication

1225
01:16:24,856 --> 01:16:27,076
amongst all the players at the table.

1226
01:16:27,116 --> 01:16:31,106
To me, it's very contingent upon Parks being there, and so that's what

1227
01:16:31,196 --> 01:16:35,076
I want to see. If we can get some sort of organization here and I could

1228
01:16:35,156 --> 01:16:38,716
see that going forward, I'll be way keener to support it long-term.

1229
01:16:39,216 --> 01:16:41,935
For now, I'm going to support it, allowing them to

1230
01:16:42,916 --> 01:16:46,896
get some of that framework together and we'll see where it

1231
01:16:46,956 --> 01:16:47,276
goes.

1232
01:16:51,336 --> 01:16:51,876
Thank you.

1233
01:16:54,276 --> 01:16:55,496
Since we're getting into it, I

1234
01:16:56,896 --> 01:17:00,786
definitely appreciate that there's still a lot of questions about what this will

1235
01:17:00,816 --> 01:17:04,256
look like, how it'll function, what is the scope,

1236
01:17:04,356 --> 01:17:05,476
and I think

1237
01:17:07,016 --> 01:17:07,796
it's just

1238
01:17:09,736 --> 01:17:13,596
a part of the awkwardness of getting this going with multiple

1239
01:17:14,636 --> 01:17:16,556
players involved. And so I think

1240
01:17:17,816 --> 01:17:21,756
I'm in a position where I feel comfortable taking that leap of faith that

1241
01:17:21,816 --> 01:17:25,196
we can work together to figure out what this could look

1242
01:17:25,236 --> 01:17:29,016
like. And I, too, appreciate the measured approach

1243
01:17:29,556 --> 01:17:32,956
in going into this conversation with those partners.

1244
01:17:33,076 --> 01:17:34,116
And I think that

1245
01:17:35,116 --> 01:17:39,095
starting off with an incremental amount of money to bring to

1246
01:17:39,136 --> 01:17:42,976
the conversation will be really helpful to giving

1247
01:17:43,036 --> 01:17:43,956
this some legs.

1248
01:17:44,796 --> 01:17:48,126
Again, this was in the Banff Community Plan to explore the feasibility,

1249
01:17:48,736 --> 01:17:52,666
and I think it's important to at least do just

1250
01:17:52,756 --> 01:17:56,296
that. And that's all we would be committing to at this point, is

1251
01:17:56,676 --> 01:17:57,896
seeing if it's feasible,

1252
01:17:58,996 --> 01:18:02,916
seeing if Parks Canada sees themself at this

1253
01:18:02,956 --> 01:18:06,776
table as well, and then we can reevaluate after that.

1254
01:18:08,876 --> 01:18:11,056
Okay. Any other discussion or debate?

1255
01:18:12,416 --> 01:18:16,216
Then I'll call the questioning on opening the budget.

1256
01:18:16,256 --> 01:18:18,156
All in favor of opening the budget.

1257
01:18:19,136 --> 01:18:22,356
So myself, Councillor Backhouse, Councillor Ram, Councillor Pelham, and Councillor

1258
01:18:22,376 --> 01:18:24,086
Fullerton. And opposed,

1259
01:18:24,896 --> 01:18:26,656
Councillor Standish and Councillor Ledwidge.

1260
01:18:26,856 --> 01:18:29,496
So that motion passes at this time.

1261
01:18:30,096 --> 01:18:33,676
And then I'm going to go to Councillor Pelham, who's got the next

1262
01:18:33,716 --> 01:18:34,116
motion.

1263
01:18:36,676 --> 01:18:37,896
So I had

1264
01:18:39,476 --> 01:18:42,956
a motion regarding the appointment of,

1265
01:18:43,556 --> 01:18:43,876
council-

1266
01:18:44,136 --> 01:18:44,556
Sorry, the-

1267
01:18:45,416 --> 01:18:46,696
Well, yeah.

1268
01:18:47,116 --> 01:18:47,466
Well, we've got-

1269
01:18:47,486 --> 01:18:47,676
Okay.

1270
01:18:47,796 --> 01:18:48,536
I can make the motion.

1271
01:18:48,616 --> 01:18:50,316
No. Okay. Sorry. I'll

1272
01:18:51,536 --> 01:18:52,416
stay the course.

1273
01:18:53,336 --> 01:18:53,716
Sorry.

1274
01:18:55,436 --> 01:18:56,156
Do you want to take a recess?

1275
01:18:57,456 --> 01:18:57,536
No.

1276
01:18:57,936 --> 01:18:58,066
Okay.

1277
01:18:58,605 --> 01:19:00,396
Sorry, I'm getting my notes mixed up.

1278
01:19:00,496 --> 01:19:04,256
So I would like to make a motion to

1279
01:19:04,356 --> 01:19:06,236
further amend the amended

1280
01:19:06,596 --> 01:19:10,076
2026-2028 operating budget by directing

1281
01:19:10,116 --> 01:19:13,716
administration to work with the Town of Canmore to procure contracted

1282
01:19:13,796 --> 01:19:17,376
services to facilitate foundational work on

1283
01:19:17,396 --> 01:19:20,676
establishing a Destination Stewardship Council by

1284
01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:24,456
allocating up to $40,000 to be

1285
01:19:24,476 --> 01:19:28,140
funded through the Budget Stabilization ReserveI completely

1286
01:19:28,220 --> 01:19:31,460
recognize that a couple of councilors are concerned about the

1287
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,790
value of the investment here. I

1288
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,640
also really hear the discussion about it

1289
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:40,520
being an incremental

1290
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,420
process, and I believe in the value of an

1291
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:48,890
incremental process.

1292
01:19:49,780 --> 01:19:53,660
So, that is why the phrasing is to allocate

1293
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,970
up to $40,000. And the reason for the

1294
01:19:57,140 --> 01:20:00,990
$40,000 as opposed to what administration had proposed as

1295
01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:02,220
$25,000,

1296
01:20:04,820 --> 01:20:05,030
is

1297
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:06,369
to

1298
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,520
be fully present and collaborative

1299
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:14,440
with our closest neighbor.

1300
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,329
I do think it's really important that we stand shoulder to

1301
01:20:19,340 --> 01:20:21,260
shoulder in creating

1302
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:26,420
essentially what is going to be a blueprint for how we move forward into

1303
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:30,340
the next five, 10, 15, 20 years. We

1304
01:20:30,460 --> 01:20:33,080
know that the town of Canmore

1305
01:20:33,940 --> 01:20:36,140
is going to double in size.

1306
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,400
We know that the town of Canmore is adding

1307
01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:45,040
1,500, 1,700 hotel

1308
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,020
rooms in the next couple of years. If we don't think

1309
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,380
that that's not going to impact

1310
01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:54,240
residents in Banff,

1311
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,360
businesses in Banff, our community in Banff, we're

1312
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:02,000
grossly underestimating what that impact is going to be.

1313
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,980
And then there's the dialogue about what's happening in Kananaskis.

1314
01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:08,840
The All-Seasons Resort Act,

1315
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,580
I think essentially there isn't a limit on what they're going to be doing

1316
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,400
there. So, whether we're talking about mega hotels,

1317
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,760
mega attractions, the people who are going to come and stay there,

1318
01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:26,480
they're not going to

1319
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,640
likely just stay there. They are going to stay there and explore

1320
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:35,640
here. So again, if we don't think that that is going to

1321
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,580
have a direct impact on our residents and on our community,

1322
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,400
I think we're underestimating the force of the

1323
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:46,340
future. So I just think that

1324
01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:51,280
we need to really look at the horizon,

1325
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:52,580
and

1326
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:54,420
I'm not

1327
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,160
suggesting that

1328
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,040
we would absolutely spend all the $40,000, but I think that we need to

1329
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,640
be nimble enough to be able to if it's required.

1330
01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:09,600
And it is what our neighbors are doing, and they've shown that support,

1331
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,900
and I think it's incumbent on us to stand with.

1332
01:22:15,380 --> 01:22:17,040
Thank you very much, Councilor Pelham.

1333
01:22:18,170 --> 01:22:22,060
Appreciate that. Before we get into discussion debate, I had this question

1334
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,920
and I forgot to ask it. Does anybody

1335
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:28,800
have a current snapshot of what the budget stabilization

1336
01:22:28,820 --> 01:22:29,360
reserve

1337
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:31,840
is sitting at?

1338
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,980
Yes, there's currently approximately $550,000

1339
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,580
available in the budget stabilization reserve.

1340
01:22:40,580 --> 01:22:41,340
Thank you very much.

1341
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,420
Okay, any discussion or debate on the motion? Councilor Fullerton.

1342
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:47,380
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1343
01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:52,490
I agree with you that we do need to be supportive and collaborative with

1344
01:22:52,540 --> 01:22:56,470
our closest neighbor, Canmore, but I will not be supporting your motion simply on

1345
01:22:56,500 --> 01:22:57,280
the dollar amount.

1346
01:22:58,300 --> 01:23:01,940
I trust our administration's recommendation of $25,000 being enough,

1347
01:23:02,540 --> 01:23:05,360
and taking that very cautious, incremental approach.

1348
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,320
I have no idea how Canmore arrived at the figure of

1349
01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:10,320
$40,000.

1350
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,800
I'm going based upon the information we have in front of us.

1351
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:14,090
So,

1352
01:23:15,060 --> 01:23:18,930
I'm good with $25,000 being our maximum, but I

1353
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,480
will still not be supporting $40,000.

1354
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,650
So, Councilor Fullerton, would you like to make an amendment?

1355
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,480
Do I do that now?

1356
01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:28,840
Yes.

1357
01:23:28,980 --> 01:23:32,680
Okay, well then I guess I will propose an amendment to the amendment.

1358
01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:35,160
Or no, that's just a motion. Yeah.

1359
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:35,980
Oh, a motion.

1360
01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:36,440
Yeah.

1361
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:36,970
Okay.

1362
01:23:36,980 --> 01:23:37,320
You're good.

1363
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:38,300
Got it.

1364
01:23:40,060 --> 01:23:41,600
But that would be my amendment?

1365
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:42,960
Yes.

1366
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,300
Would be to change it to $25,000.

1367
01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:47,139
Thank you.

1368
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:51,840
So I'll just give Ms. McDougall a moment to get that.

1369
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:55,920
So we've got an amendment for $25,000

1370
01:23:56,460 --> 01:24:00,440
instead of the $40,000. Any discussion or debate on the

1371
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:01,600
amendment to 25?

1372
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,130
I'll speak up here to say,

1373
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,640
I think it's really important that we come to the table with

1374
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,940
an amount of money, and at first I also thought matching Canmore

1375
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:16,720
felt like

1376
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:20,620
more than I wanted to do, but I think

1377
01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:25,600
it does show that we're in this like they are, and we're ready to

1378
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,700
be collaborative. The up to language

1379
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,620
really assures me that it doesn't mean it'll be the whole amount.

1380
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,020
I think it also helps us keep it small, because Canmore's motion

1381
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:40,680
was that they would put in $40,000 contingent on

1382
01:24:40,690 --> 01:24:44,530
$75,000, and I think that was an amount that they just

1383
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,080
wanted to have as a baseline to be able to procure some

1384
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,030
contracted services. So if the $40,000 were to stand, then

1385
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,340
we've met that sort of threshold they were looking for to be able to

1386
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,080
contribute as well, and then we can keep the group

1387
01:24:59,140 --> 01:25:02,980
small to start, which is my preference, before we

1388
01:25:03,020 --> 01:25:05,840
go large. Earlier there was a question about who wants to be at the table, the

1389
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:06,760
answer is everyone

1390
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:11,209
. And so I think we need to be really

1391
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,570
thoughtful and

1392
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,800
careful in our approach to this to ensure that the right

1393
01:25:17,860 --> 01:25:19,960
folks are there to set this up for success.

1394
01:25:19,970 --> 01:25:23,500
So, I agree with you, the 40 feels

1395
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,500
big, but when I think about it, it

1396
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:31,480
helps us match Canmore, it helps us keep this group small

1397
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,496
to start andAnd the "up to" also reassures

1398
01:25:35,516 --> 01:25:39,396
me that we might not need all of it. So, my preference would

1399
01:25:39,456 --> 01:25:40,256
be to

1400
01:25:41,076 --> 01:25:44,876
keep the 40, so I would not be supporting this

1401
01:25:44,916 --> 01:25:45,996
amendment at this time.

1402
01:25:47,616 --> 01:25:50,495
Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Ludwich.

1403
01:25:54,456 --> 01:25:57,696
I'm kind of losing track on the motions, but just a couple more

1404
01:25:57,756 --> 01:26:01,336
questions. To be clear, Parks has

1405
01:26:01,376 --> 01:26:05,256
indicated they're not going to contribute financially, so there's that, and

1406
01:26:05,316 --> 01:26:07,056
also they haven't approved the community plan.

1407
01:26:07,116 --> 01:26:11,096
So there's references in the community plan, but that document is not signed

1408
01:26:11,176 --> 01:26:11,485
off yet.

1409
01:26:13,736 --> 01:26:16,216
Thank you. So, sorry, the first point you're saying is

1410
01:26:17,116 --> 01:26:18,676
they have said they would not contribute?

1411
01:26:19,016 --> 01:26:20,096
That's my understanding.

1412
01:26:20,416 --> 01:26:22,976
Okay, so we haven't had a formal-

1413
01:26:23,276 --> 01:26:23,346
I understand

1414
01:26:23,396 --> 01:26:26,816
... discussion about any of that, so I guess that wouldn't be knowledge that is

1415
01:26:26,876 --> 01:26:28,876
shared with the rest of the table, or

1416
01:26:29,836 --> 01:26:30,356
publicly.

1417
01:26:31,116 --> 01:26:34,116
Well, through some communication, that was my understanding.

1418
01:26:34,176 --> 01:26:34,376
Okay.

1419
01:26:35,316 --> 01:26:38,386
So we haven't got an answer from Parks

1420
01:26:38,476 --> 01:26:42,055
Canada whether they would fund this or not.

1421
01:26:42,126 --> 01:26:44,886
They wanted to find out more information, so I'm not sure.

1422
01:26:46,236 --> 01:26:48,436
That's my understanding, anyway.

1423
01:26:48,616 --> 01:26:49,296
Mm-hmm.

1424
01:26:50,136 --> 01:26:50,516
Fair enough.

1425
01:26:52,416 --> 01:26:53,696
Okay, thank you. I just wanted to clarify.

1426
01:26:54,476 --> 01:26:56,556
Did you have anything else you wanted to say? Okay.

1427
01:26:58,176 --> 01:27:00,766
Any other discussion about it? Councillor Backhouse.

1428
01:27:02,556 --> 01:27:06,296
So the 40,000 did make me a little nervous and palms sweaty.

1429
01:27:06,516 --> 01:27:08,216
I appreciate the wording of "up to,"

1430
01:27:09,256 --> 01:27:10,556
but I also

1431
01:27:11,576 --> 01:27:14,776
really trust what administration is saying, is coming at this very

1432
01:27:14,836 --> 01:27:15,616
incrementally.

1433
01:27:17,096 --> 01:27:20,746
And not having key players at the

1434
01:27:20,856 --> 01:27:24,666
table, such as Parks Canada, I kind of feel like it's a sibling conversation

1435
01:27:24,696 --> 01:27:26,676
before our parents are in the room.

1436
01:27:27,456 --> 01:27:30,946
Forgive me for the analogy, but I just want to make that a fuller

1437
01:27:31,456 --> 01:27:34,066
conversation before funds are committed.

1438
01:27:34,516 --> 01:27:38,176
And I also want to echo that the community plan is in draft

1439
01:27:38,276 --> 01:27:41,436
form, and I really do

1440
01:27:42,536 --> 01:27:45,526
want to investigate the destination stewardship,

1441
01:27:45,716 --> 01:27:46,956
specifically

1442
01:27:47,816 --> 01:27:51,656
because it would lend more information for human use management

1443
01:27:51,716 --> 01:27:51,996
here.

1444
01:27:52,836 --> 01:27:53,076
So,

1445
01:27:54,056 --> 01:27:58,036
I'm going to support the 25 because I'm comfortable with that amount

1446
01:27:58,416 --> 01:28:01,336
and just investigating the feasibility of this.

1447
01:28:01,936 --> 01:28:04,856
And for me, that is having Parks Canada at the table.

1448
01:28:05,416 --> 01:28:06,816
And within that budget,

1449
01:28:08,036 --> 01:28:11,576
knowing they're at the table, I would be more comfortable

1450
01:28:11,636 --> 01:28:14,856
exploring what that collaboration and partnership looks like

1451
01:28:14,916 --> 01:28:18,636
further. But just at a feasibility, I'm

1452
01:28:18,676 --> 01:28:22,536
comfortable with the amended motion on the table, and I

1453
01:28:22,576 --> 01:28:24,876
will be supporting that.

1454
01:28:27,316 --> 01:28:30,376
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate?

1455
01:28:32,016 --> 01:28:35,096
There's just one clarity point I wanted to get in, which is that we did have a

1456
01:28:35,176 --> 01:28:38,956
Parks Canada representative at the Banff Community Plan Advisory Committee,

1457
01:28:39,096 --> 01:28:42,036
so there was a Parks Canada presence through everything.

1458
01:28:42,076 --> 01:28:44,296
They've seen everything in that document, and

1459
01:28:45,216 --> 01:28:48,796
there was intense debate, but there was definitely no

1460
01:28:50,556 --> 01:28:53,696
alarm bells being raised by anything in that plan, certainly.

1461
01:28:55,156 --> 01:28:58,496
Okay, so just for clarity, we've got the amendment that changes it to

1462
01:28:58,696 --> 01:29:00,336
25,000.

1463
01:29:01,296 --> 01:29:04,316
Any other discussion or debate on the amendment?

1464
01:29:08,816 --> 01:29:09,456
Councillor Pelham.

1465
01:29:10,216 --> 01:29:13,636
I'm just kind of curious.

1466
01:29:15,756 --> 01:29:19,346
If this does not pass, then it goes back to my

1467
01:29:19,356 --> 01:29:21,076
original motion of 40.

1468
01:29:21,156 --> 01:29:21,556
Correct.

1469
01:29:22,456 --> 01:29:24,276
And if it passes, then it's 25.

1470
01:29:27,716 --> 01:29:27,976
Right.

1471
01:29:29,956 --> 01:29:30,196
Okay.

1472
01:29:31,576 --> 01:29:32,556
Is everybody clear?

1473
01:29:34,316 --> 01:29:37,836
Procedurally then, if 25 doesn't pass and 40 doesn't pass,

1474
01:29:38,236 --> 01:29:38,996
nothing's there.

1475
01:29:39,296 --> 01:29:43,166
Correct. So I think where maybe people are maybe

1476
01:29:43,296 --> 01:29:46,916
getting tripped up, so administration had recommended 25,000 in the

1477
01:29:46,956 --> 01:29:50,675
report, but Councillor Pelham made the motion, and she moved it as

1478
01:29:50,696 --> 01:29:54,526
40,000. We now have an amendment to bring that back to

1479
01:29:54,675 --> 01:29:58,246
25, which was in the administrative report. So we'll vote on that.

1480
01:29:58,276 --> 01:30:02,136
If that passes, the amendment passes, then the new motion will read

1481
01:30:02,216 --> 01:30:06,156
as 25. If that fails, if 25,000 fails, then we'll go

1482
01:30:06,176 --> 01:30:08,436
back to the original motion at 40,000.

1483
01:30:09,076 --> 01:30:11,096
And then we'll discuss and debate the actual

1484
01:30:11,916 --> 01:30:15,736
motion of whether or not the budget for this program

1485
01:30:15,796 --> 01:30:16,436
moves forward.

1486
01:30:17,616 --> 01:30:18,156
Councillor Ram.

1487
01:30:19,996 --> 01:30:20,846
Thank you. I'm

1488
01:30:22,596 --> 01:30:26,176
comfortable with the wording of up to, but from

1489
01:30:26,256 --> 01:30:30,156
hearing discussion across the table, I just really want to get this to

1490
01:30:30,196 --> 01:30:33,096
the finish line. So I'm going to support the amendment for

1491
01:30:33,106 --> 01:30:36,856
$25,000 to get this across the line so that we have

1492
01:30:36,896 --> 01:30:40,666
funding. But again, I'm comfortable with the up to $40,000,

1493
01:30:41,116 --> 01:30:44,936
that admin would have that direction, just to maybe

1494
01:30:44,996 --> 01:30:48,636
expedite it a little bit along. But again, just hearing from some of the opinions

1495
01:30:49,116 --> 01:30:52,796
from those at the table today, I will support the amendment

1496
01:30:53,076 --> 01:30:54,216
for the 25,000.

1497
01:30:59,496 --> 01:31:01,996
Does anybody need some clarity or...

1498
01:31:03,156 --> 01:31:04,116
Right, Mr. Gibson?

1499
01:31:04,296 --> 01:31:07,986
Sure, maybe if I could help. So you're voting on an amount. This is an amendment.

1500
01:31:08,216 --> 01:31:11,986
If it goes back to 25... So if it's approved,

1501
01:31:12,536 --> 01:31:16,526
then there's a motion on the table that would read that 25,000

1502
01:31:16,556 --> 01:31:20,526
would then be in the motion. If it fails,

1503
01:31:20,556 --> 01:31:24,216
it goes back to 40. Someone can propose a different amendment

1504
01:31:24,336 --> 01:31:27,836
after that. And I'm not suggesting it, but you could

1505
01:31:27,936 --> 01:31:29,696
say a different amount.

1506
01:31:31,056 --> 01:31:34,676
But yeah, so this will just set a number in the

1507
01:31:34,716 --> 01:31:35,156
motion.

1508
01:31:36,016 --> 01:31:39,826
And this is a great example, just for anyone else that's listening that

1509
01:31:39,856 --> 01:31:43,728
cares,Of how administration

1510
01:31:43,788 --> 01:31:47,168
simply puts a recommendation in a report. That is not a motion.

1511
01:31:47,208 --> 01:31:51,168
So the motion was made at 40,000. That is the number now and then

1512
01:31:51,188 --> 01:31:53,168
that has been amended to 25.

1513
01:31:54,308 --> 01:31:54,588
So,

1514
01:31:55,388 --> 01:31:59,378
at 25, if that passes, that's what the motion comes

1515
01:31:59,488 --> 01:32:02,648
back. Then council will vote on the motion

1516
01:32:03,368 --> 01:32:06,828
once you vote on the amendment. So you still have another chance

1517
01:32:07,388 --> 01:32:09,748
if there's something else you want to change other than the amount,

1518
01:32:11,388 --> 01:32:13,218
that could still be amended after this.

1519
01:32:13,268 --> 01:32:17,208
So right now we're just looking at an amendment that would change

1520
01:32:17,268 --> 01:32:18,788
the original motion down to

1521
01:32:18,968 --> 01:32:21,348
25,000.

1522
01:32:21,508 --> 01:32:24,908
Thank you. For anybody at home, it's like 25 degrees in here.

1523
01:32:25,668 --> 01:32:27,677
I can feel my brain being cooked.

1524
01:32:28,828 --> 01:32:29,928
So we'll need a break after this.

1525
01:32:30,168 --> 01:32:30,448
Yeah.

1526
01:32:30,508 --> 01:32:33,968
Okay. So we've got an amendment for 25,000.

1527
01:32:34,908 --> 01:32:37,848
Any other discussion or debate from taking it from 40,000 to

1528
01:32:38,008 --> 01:32:41,638
25,000? And that's the only real decision point right

1529
01:32:41,668 --> 01:32:43,128
now. Councillor Pelham.

1530
01:32:43,688 --> 01:32:43,988
Okay.

1531
01:32:45,468 --> 01:32:49,268
I am going to support this

1532
01:32:49,328 --> 01:32:53,228
motion to save the investment and to secure

1533
01:32:53,268 --> 01:32:55,968
that we move forward with

1534
01:32:56,048 --> 01:32:59,728
this amendment so that the motion can pass at

1535
01:32:59,868 --> 01:33:02,188
25. My fingers are crossed.

1536
01:33:04,888 --> 01:33:05,488
Thank you.

1537
01:33:06,468 --> 01:33:07,888
Okay. Anybody else?

1538
01:33:09,008 --> 01:33:10,768
Okay, then I'll call the question.

1539
01:33:10,838 --> 01:33:14,508
All in favor of 25,000 amendment?

1540
01:33:17,228 --> 01:33:20,788
And opposed? That's myself and Councillor Ledwidge.

1541
01:33:20,948 --> 01:33:24,668
So that amendment passes. So we are back to

1542
01:33:24,768 --> 01:33:27,248
the motion as amended now.

1543
01:33:28,188 --> 01:33:31,948
So if we could just see that, and then I'll do one last

1544
01:33:32,008 --> 01:33:32,348
call.

1545
01:33:59,028 --> 01:34:02,468
Okay, so we've got Councillor Pelham's motion that has been

1546
01:34:02,548 --> 01:34:06,328
amended to be $25,000 from the budget

1547
01:34:06,408 --> 01:34:09,908
stabilization reserve. Any last discussion or debate

1548
01:34:10,028 --> 01:34:11,448
on the motion?

1549
01:34:14,568 --> 01:34:16,988
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

1550
01:34:18,448 --> 01:34:21,048
So that's myself, Councillor Backhouse, Councillor Fullarton, and Councillor

1551
01:34:21,128 --> 01:34:24,468
Pelham. And opposed, Councillor Ledwidge and Councillor Standish.

1552
01:34:24,568 --> 01:34:28,288
That motion passes. And then now,

1553
01:34:31,788 --> 01:34:35,418
I believe we need a motion to close the budget, Ms.

1554
01:34:35,548 --> 01:34:37,188
McDougall. So can I do that one?

1555
01:34:38,528 --> 01:34:40,948
So I move to close up that budget.

1556
01:34:41,768 --> 01:34:43,428
Any discussion or debate on that?

1557
01:34:44,968 --> 01:34:45,768
All in favor?

1558
01:34:47,408 --> 01:34:49,848
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

1559
01:34:49,908 --> 01:34:53,368
And then I'll go over to Councillor Pelham for the next one.

1560
01:34:57,228 --> 01:35:00,408
All righty. I have a

1561
01:35:00,928 --> 01:35:04,288
motion to appoint

1562
01:35:05,268 --> 01:35:08,708
the mayor to assist with the foundation work

1563
01:35:08,768 --> 01:35:11,788
associated with establishing a destination stewardship

1564
01:35:11,848 --> 01:35:12,928
council.

1565
01:35:14,288 --> 01:35:17,948
I think that this takes leadership

1566
01:35:18,208 --> 01:35:20,788
at our highest levels, and

1567
01:35:22,068 --> 01:35:25,868
I think the mayor is best situated to represent the town of Banff

1568
01:35:26,388 --> 01:35:27,468
on this council.

1569
01:35:29,828 --> 01:35:30,708
Thanks, Councillor Pelham.

1570
01:35:31,528 --> 01:35:34,968
We've got the motion there. Any discussion or debate?

1571
01:35:35,128 --> 01:35:35,868
Councillor Backhouse.

1572
01:35:36,708 --> 01:35:37,948
I'm definitely going to support this.

1573
01:35:39,228 --> 01:35:42,468
I think Mayor Demenos sits on a lot of these

1574
01:35:43,208 --> 01:35:44,148
already kind of,

1575
01:35:45,808 --> 01:35:49,738
stewardship, I wouldn't call them councils necessarily, but I think this is just

1576
01:35:49,748 --> 01:35:53,428
creating continuity with a lot of those already existing relationships

1577
01:35:53,948 --> 01:35:57,348
and keeping the box really clear on what this one could look like.

1578
01:35:57,448 --> 01:36:00,388
So I am definitely in support of this appointment.

1579
01:36:02,187 --> 01:36:04,588
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate?

1580
01:36:06,368 --> 01:36:09,448
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

1581
01:36:11,168 --> 01:36:14,788
And opposed? That's carried unanimously. Thanks, Council.

1582
01:36:15,588 --> 01:36:19,088
And then I believe we just have one more motion.

1583
01:36:20,108 --> 01:36:23,968
Could I please get someone to move that council direct administration to come

1584
01:36:24,028 --> 01:36:27,928
back with a report outlining the next steps that are going to be

1585
01:36:27,968 --> 01:36:30,388
required here? Councillor Backhouse.

1586
01:36:32,388 --> 01:36:36,258
I move that council direct administration to return to a future meeting of

1587
01:36:36,348 --> 01:36:38,768
council with a report outlining the

1588
01:36:38,848 --> 01:36:42,608
required next steps in establishing a

1589
01:36:42,648 --> 01:36:44,248
destination stewardship council.

1590
01:36:47,108 --> 01:36:50,318
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on that motion?

1591
01:36:53,268 --> 01:36:54,928
Seeing none, all in favor?

1592
01:36:56,868 --> 01:36:59,048
And opposed? It's carried unanimously.

1593
01:36:59,888 --> 01:37:01,028
Thank you. Mr. Enns.

1594
01:37:04,968 --> 01:37:08,608
So we'll move forward. We have no notices of

1595
01:37:08,648 --> 01:37:10,628
motion. We'll go to committee reports.

1596
01:37:10,648 --> 01:37:13,768
We've got 9.1 through 9.4 there. Any

1597
01:37:14,248 --> 01:37:15,988
questions arising from those

1598
01:37:17,168 --> 01:37:17,628
minutes?

1599
01:37:19,548 --> 01:37:22,088
Any objections to receiving those for the corporate record?

1600
01:37:22,488 --> 01:37:24,628
No, sir.

1601
01:37:24,688 --> 01:37:28,438
Thanks, everybody. We have no new urgent business, so that takes

1602
01:37:28,508 --> 01:37:32,268
us to confidential items 11.1, confidential request for

1603
01:37:32,278 --> 01:37:35,958
direction, draft 2027, 2030 council strategic

1604
01:37:36,048 --> 01:37:36,468
plan.

1605
01:37:37,348 --> 01:37:39,068
So I will move

1606
01:37:40,708 --> 01:37:44,028
that council pursuant to sections 23, local public body

1607
01:37:44,128 --> 01:37:47,838
confidences, and 24, advice from officials of the Freedom of Information and

1608
01:37:47,888 --> 01:37:51,640
Protection of Privacy Act, recess to the call of the chairTo

1609
01:37:51,719 --> 01:37:54,539
reconvene in a closed meeting to be conducted, let's just

1610
01:37:55,179 --> 01:37:56,840
stay in here, please,

1611
01:37:57,699 --> 01:38:01,419
in council chambers and a confidential Zoom meeting environment to consider

1612
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,539
confidential matters with respect to item 11.1, confidential request for

1613
01:38:05,579 --> 01:38:09,260
direction draft 2027, 2030 council strategic

1614
01:38:09,319 --> 01:38:13,079
plan, and bringing into closed meeting with us Ms.

1615
01:38:13,139 --> 01:38:16,279
McDougall, Mr. Gibson, and Mr. Dara, please.

1616
01:38:18,059 --> 01:38:19,399
And Ms. McDonald.

1617
01:38:20,619 --> 01:38:22,619
Any discussion or debate on that motion?

1618
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:24,880
All in favor?

1619
01:38:26,419 --> 01:38:29,679
And opposed? That's carried, and we'll move in

1620
01:38:29,819 --> 02:28:20,940
camera.Thank

1621
02:28:20,980 --> 02:28:24,720
you, everyone. We are now going to

1622
02:28:24,780 --> 02:28:28,020
rise and report and come out of camera.

1623
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:32,100
Any discussion or debate on that motion?

1624
02:28:32,940 --> 02:28:34,059
All in favor?

1625
02:28:35,440 --> 02:28:38,220
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

1626
02:28:44,740 --> 02:28:47,350
Thank you. I will now move that council direct that the proposed

1627
02:28:47,500 --> 02:28:51,480
2027-2030 strategic plan and associated report be

1628
02:28:51,520 --> 02:28:55,220
released as a public document to be included as part of the final

1629
02:28:55,260 --> 02:28:59,120
revised agenda for the May 26th, 2026, meeting once

1630
02:28:59,180 --> 02:29:02,780
administration has made the requested updates so that it may be

1631
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:06,380
discussed as part of the June 8th, 2026, council open house.

1632
02:29:07,060 --> 02:29:09,080
Any discussion or debate on that motion?

1633
02:29:11,540 --> 02:29:13,390
Seeing none. All in favor?

1634
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:17,940
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

1635
02:29:19,379 --> 02:29:21,080
And I believe we have one more.

1636
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:45,440
Thank you. I will move that council direct that the closed meeting

1637
02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:49,340
discussions remain confidential pursuant to Section 23, local

1638
02:29:49,460 --> 02:29:52,760
public body confidences, and 24, advice from officials

1639
02:29:53,420 --> 02:29:57,000
of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act until such

1640
02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:59,260
time as the matter has been resolved.

1641
02:29:59,900 --> 02:30:01,840
Any discussion or debate on that motion?

1642
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:04,640
All in favor?

1643
02:30:06,260 --> 02:30:09,080
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.

1644
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:12,700
Thank you very much for that, administration.

1645
02:30:12,980 --> 02:30:16,580
We have no correspondence, so we're just looking for a motion to adjourn at

1646
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:20,400
4:27 PM. Councilor Sandish, thank you. All in favor?

1647
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:24,980
And opposed? We are adjourned. Thanks, everybody.