1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Would you lead us in the pledge, please? >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:15,440 United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:19,760 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:25,600 » Okay. >> Attendance. Roll call, please. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:29,279 » Council member Rivers, >> Council Member Murphy, 6 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:31,599 » present. Council member Doro >> present. 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,320 » Council member Garcia >> present. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,200 » Council member Wall >> present. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,040 » Mayor Pro Tim Martinez Catoos >> present. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:47,120 » Mayor McRum >> present. And as I understand it, um, 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,440 clerk Shelley. Um, we don't have any excused absences today. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:55,360 » We do not >> for anybody. Okay. Well, that's cuz 13 00:00:51,039 --> 00:01:02,160 everybody's here. Okay. So item five, approval of the postage agenda for 8:17. 14 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:07,159 The agenda has been distributed. Um any are there any changes that you would 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,159 like to make? 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,159 Hearing none, I need a call for motion to accept today's agenda. 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,920 » I make a motion we accept today's agenda. 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,280 » A second. >> Second. Uh the motion to accept the 19 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:27,680 agenda has been moved and seconded. All those in favor um signify by saying I 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:33,520 » I um opposed. No. 21 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,240 » Motion has been voted on. 22 00:01:35,119 --> 00:01:41,280 » Okay. >> Um now this is a little bit different. 23 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,960 Public comment has been placed near the beginning of the our agenda so that 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:50,000 members of the public have an opportunity to address the council 25 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:55,119 before we begin discussing and taking action on council business. This allows 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:00,240 council members to hear public input before considering the matters before us 27 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:05,200 tonight. Public comment is not limited to items on tonight's agenda. Members of 28 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:10,319 the public may also address other matters of city concern during this 29 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:15,840 time. The purpose of placing the public comment here is simply to make sure the 30 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:20,000 public has an opportunity to be heard before the council conducts business. 31 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:26,000 And we'd appreciate it if you could keep your comments to 3 minutes or less. Um 32 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Mr. Bunzer. >> Yes. Um in in regards to that last 33 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:36,959 comment, that's not what I'm going to be commenting on. I I I still disagree with 34 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:41,519 it because I would like to hear what you guys are going to say and do. I have no 35 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:46,640 idea what what you're going to be talking about on some of these things. 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:52,480 So, it is hard for me to address those in advance. Okay. With that being said, 37 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:58,720 two weeks ago, I had the opportunity to work as an election inspector here. And 38 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:05,760 I want to tell you, you have a clerk here in Shelly and Amanda that helped 39 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:10,400 her that did a fantastic job. I the first election I ever worked, it seemed 40 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:15,280 so well organized and everything was orchestrated so well, you know, was just 41 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:20,640 it was a pleasure to work here and it really was. And I think, you know, we 42 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:25,599 owe her a big deal of gratitude for for what she does and the amount of work 43 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:31,519 that actually goes into it. I did not realize until I went to that class for 44 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:36,480 elections of of what it entails and then I see the work that that she has to do 45 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:41,840 prior to it and then the work she has to do after the polls close and go to go to 46 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:47,120 PA off you know it's quite an ordeal and and then come to find out she sent a 47 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:52,720 little email out and showed that everything that was done here was done 48 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:58,360 exactly the way it should have been done and she got a little good Yeah. 49 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,360 » Thank you. 50 00:03:58,959 --> 00:04:04,640 » Thank you. I appreciate that. >> Thank you. 51 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:09,120 » And thank you for working elections. You're welcome. 52 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:13,760 » It was a nice I enjoyed it. Thank you. >> Um, is there anybody else in the public 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,760 comment? Yes, Mr. Dorl. >> Mr. 54 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:24,960 I, uh, gave all the council members a copy of our activity report for July. I 55 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:29,680 can look at that. Couple other things I want to report on. We have a public 56 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:35,040 hearing on our budget for the county uh for 2627 and it's going to be like $32.9 57 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:39,360 million. Um 58 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:44,400 also uh up in the top this you see there's a new name Britney Wrath fun 59 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:49,360 been hired as an executive assistant. She is from understand she's very good. 60 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Can't wait for her to start. And we're also working on our long range plan for 61 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:59,360 what we're going to do um with our facilities. Um even though Wood TP said 62 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:06,080 it was all set in stone, what we had was the uh it came back um from the folks 63 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:10,800 that kind of did some work for us and we're looking at it to see what we want 64 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:15,360 to do. So it's not cast in stone yet. We don't know what we're going to do. So um 65 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:21,680 if you hear otherwise that's not not true. So anyhow questions, concerns, 66 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:25,840 thank you. Like to welcome our new member, introduce myself to him. So 67 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,360 welcome. Thank you. >> Thank you. 68 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:36,160 » Thank you. >> Okay. Um next is to adopt the consent 69 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:41,199 agenda. Um I need a motion. I call for a motion to accept the consent agenda. Um 70 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:47,600 with the approval of the regular meeting me minutes for 8326, the approval of the 71 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:55,639 general checking AC um accounts payable and payroll for $817 for $97,000 72 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,639 um $97,364.85 73 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:03,960 and the approval of the roads accounts payable for 817 in the amount of 74 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 $1,895.95. 75 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:11,759 » I'll make a motion to adopt the consent agenda. I second. 76 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:16,199 » Okay. Um, agenda has been moved and seconded. Are any discussion? 77 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,960 » Then at this time, we'll call for a roll call vote, please. 78 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:24,000 » Council member Garcia, >> yes. 79 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:26,240 » Mayor Pro Tim Martinez, >> yes. 80 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,400 » Council member Rivers, >> yes. 81 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:30,479 » Council member Murphy, >> yes. 82 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,639 » Council member Doro, >> yes. 83 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:34,639 » Council member Wall, >> yes. 84 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,600 » Mayor Mcgrum, >> yes. 85 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:42,960 » Okay. Thank you. Okay, regular business. Uh, first order 86 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:50,400 of business are reports from department heads. Um, Mr. Louderder, public works. 87 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:55,000 » Package, you got my report. Any questions? Anything I can answer for 88 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 you? 89 00:06:55,280 --> 00:07:03,120 » Not off. Are you Are you spraying? It was asked today if you are doing the 90 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:09,759 spraying. public works is doing the spraying for the sidewalk and like the 91 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:15,039 curb along in front of um Sponsy. It's between the curb and the road. 92 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:17,360 Weeds are coming out between there. Um >> spray it if it needs it. 93 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:22,960 » It needs it. >> Yeah. Put a note on there, please. 94 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,880 Thank you. I wasn't sure if you guys did it or somebody else did it. 95 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,960 » We do it. >> Okay. Thank you. 96 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:29,960 » Anybody else? 97 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:39,840 police department. Um, officer Drake. 98 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:45,919 » Um, police service uh calls for service in the month of June is 229. Uh, 66 99 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:51,759 traffic stops. Uh, tickets tickets issued is 26. Uh, monthly ticket 100 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:58,639 percentage is 39%. Uh, year traffic stops is 356. 101 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:04,879 gives us 153 uh tickets issued for this year's reform. Uh gives us a percentage 102 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:10,479 of 46% chance. Um parking violations been one. Just a 103 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:15,120 reminder on that a lot of people parking the wrong direction on Montro. 104 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:22,080 So make sure you're parking with traffic. Uh lobby visits was 78. Uh this 105 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:27,199 month we had train last month in the month of June we had uh handling heat 106 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:32,880 stress, work stress and then science of science of employee engagement for that 107 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:38,399 month for our officer training and then uh total calls traffic stops and defense 108 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:42,240 was 295 which brings a total of 4,626 109 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:43,519 calls >> for the month. 110 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:44,880 » For the month >> you are busy 111 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,920 » for the year. I'm sorry >> for the year. 112 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:53,279 » Thank you. >> Wow. 113 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:56,000 Thank you. Um, Chief Babcock, Fire Department. 114 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,680 » All right, keep that up, Justin. Hang on. Scroll up. Scroll up. Scroll up. So, 115 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,399 you can tell Paul was working this summer uh for the month of July because 116 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:10,959 the ticket percentages were down to 39%. When he's not working, it's up to about 117 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:15,120 49 to 50%. Just to tell you, Paul doesn't write all the tickets 118 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:22,240 in there. You can tell him that cuz he's not here tonight to 119 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:27,200 um so we've had uh July we had 38 uh calls for the month, 13 in the city. We 120 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:31,920 had eight medicals, uh false alarm, some power lines down, some storm damage, uh 121 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:37,600 one vehicle accident, one illegal burn brought out year to date to 314. 122 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:42,720 So we're uh a little bit behind last year, but we're right on top of right 123 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:45,760 where we were 24 and 23. So, pretty much running running right average for the 124 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:50,720 month of July. Nothing out of the ordinary. A lot of stuff uh up and 125 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:56,080 coming. I got two new uh members going to be going through the fire academy uh 126 00:09:52,959 --> 00:10:01,440 this uh in January when it starts again for next year. 127 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:07,279 We have our pancake breakfast coming up September 5th, so in two weeks. So, 128 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:12,240 Labor Day weekend. Uh, next Wednesday, uh, the 26 from, uh, 6:00 to 7:30 is the 129 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,000 backpack giveaway. So, if you got kids in Bangor School District that need 130 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:20,079 school supplies, make sure after the open house, so open house at the schools 131 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:26,160 from 4:30 4:30 to 6. Yeah, 4:30 to 6. And then at 132 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:29,680 6:00 p.m., we're doing the uh, out front of the high school. There'll be a bunch 133 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,920 of booth set up and everything. So, we're doing our backpack and school 134 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:38,720 supplies giveaway this year. So, bring your kids down and uh get some school 135 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:42,720 supplies. Uh we had a great uh if you drove by the station last weekend, we 136 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:47,120 had a company down that did our a rescue training. We had 22 uh students show up 137 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:51,200 from pretty much all around Southwest Michigan. We had eight different 138 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:54,800 departments representative for that uh that class. It was all evening on a 139 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Friday and then all day Saturday we set up scenarios out in the backyard with an 140 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:05,040 augur and tractor and all kinds of scenarios. Learned about a rescue stuff. 141 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:10,320 And then on Sunday, uh we went to the uh to the fly in uh to every uh every year 142 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:16,079 the three departments, Covert, South Haven, and us uh split shifts to work 143 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,959 for two hour two hours each shift to uh give protection to the fly in. And that 144 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,560 was probably the most well attended. They had over 2,000 people show up to 145 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,800 their Rotary Club Pancake Breakfast. >> Wow. 146 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:30,800 » At the fly in that that morning. So, it was very busy, crazy morning. So, uh 147 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,240 lots of things up and happening next week. I'm leaving this Friday. We'll be 148 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:39,040 gone Friday to Friday. I'm going up to Canada. So, uh, don't try to call me cuz 149 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:43,680 my phone will not work. So, we're going up there fishing for 5 days. And so, 150 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,519 we're going to stop by the Common Falls on the way back. Lived here for 20 151 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:51,519 years. I've never been to Common Falls. So, we're going to stop there on the on 152 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:56,160 the way back through and see that on the way. Um, that's everything fire 153 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,160 department wise. Anybody have any questions as far as that before I get 154 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:01,160 into something else? 155 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,320 on his phone. 156 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:15,279 » Um, so on another note, uh, the fire inspections. So, uh, we finished, we're 157 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:22,399 trying to finish up the, uh, the business inspections. We've been working 158 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:25,519 on that since, uh, since March. And um so far on our list, we keep a running, 159 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:31,360 it's kind of hard to see on here, but we keep a running uh a running spreadsheet 160 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:36,720 uh document that uh us and city hall all share. So whenever inspections come in, 161 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:42,160 we we can document a live document. So as of right now, we have 73 total 162 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:47,440 businesses on the spreadsheet uh with 11 of those are exempt. And so exempt means 163 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:53,760 like the library, public works, this building, uh the schools, uh the the 164 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:58,160 transportation building, vir uh post office, those kind of buildings 165 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:04,480 are exempt from paying the uh paying the inspection fee. Um of that 73, we got 11 166 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,360 exempt. Five that are vacant on the list, but actually going through the 167 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:11,519 list, there's probably about three or four more. So, eight or nine vacant 168 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:15,839 buildings that'll still need to get inspected, but that inspection will come 169 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:20,160 once they are not vacant anymore and get reoccupied. 170 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:26,480 So, right about 57 that are billable. Uh, so far to date, we've had 31 pay. 171 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:31,519 Uh, so that leaves us about 26 that are unpaid. So, a little more than 50% have 172 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:36,079 paid their inspection fee of the $150 for the uh for the annual inspection. Uh 173 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:40,959 most of these businesses have all been notified twice 174 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,160 uh of the the the fee. They get a nice letter. Shelley does a wonderful job 175 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,560 putting together a nice letter explaining the ordinance, explaining the 176 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:54,800 uh the requirements and the uh the inspection situation. Um the the the 177 00:13:52,399 --> 00:14:00,560 problem we're coming across now is the businesses the 20ome businesses that 178 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:04,160 have not paid or refusing to pay or maybe not getting the letter potentially 179 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:10,720 that you know maybe we've got some wrong information. Um, do we treat this as any 180 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:14,800 other type of ordinance violation? Because this was an 181 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:21,440 ordinance passed by the council to to do this. Um, as far as sending a a third 182 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:25,600 notice with a hey, if you don't pay, it's going to get put on your tax bill 183 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:30,240 as an ordinance violation, you know. Um, don't know if that's completely that 184 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:34,800 would be a Scott question, you know, or how do we how do we go about So, what 185 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:39,040 we're coming across also is businesses that are owned by somebody but rented to 186 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:45,920 somebody else. So, who's responsible for paying it? Is is it the the renter or is 187 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:49,120 it the owner, you know, and um and if there's going to be a fee, does the fee 188 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:53,440 go the fee actually probably goes to whoever paying the tax bill? But the tax 189 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,680 bill is there's two different tax bills. It could be the 190 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,199 » personal >> personal 191 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:01,120 » or real >> or real which the personal gets paid by 192 00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:03,920 the owner >> the real gets paid by the renty. 193 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,440 » So >> personal re 194 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:10,800 » right >> well the the 195 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:14,320 » or is it backwards the personal is the business itself. Yeah. 196 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,560 » The real is usually paid by whoever owns the building. 197 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:21,680 » Right. So that would be kind of the caveat to how do we how do how do we get 198 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:25,839 you know I think a handful of these can get worked out by just going face to 199 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,600 face and handing it to them and saying hey maybe you didn't get it let's let's 200 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:34,160 talk about it you know uh we're going to inspect all these anyway you know but 201 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,120 what's we just want to be fair to everybody 202 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,079 if you're a business owner and you're paying it why are you getting treated 203 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,680 any different than than anybody else. So, we want to treat everybody the same, 204 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,880 you know, and and say that this isn't a punishment. This isn't a we're not 205 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,800 punishing anybody. We're just trying to have a better, safer community, you 206 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,040 know, and we're trying to wrap these businesses up so we can move on to the 207 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,560 residential to the uh to the rental business to the residential rental and 208 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,079 then the commercial rental, which is all the commercial rental buildings, which 209 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:05,600 we're going to tackle next. And so, the plan was to start tackling those 210 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,880 starting around September time, but we're trying really trying to get this 211 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,519 wrapped up. So, Scott, do you have any kind of guidance or what what do you 212 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,160 think what do you think should be the next step? 213 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:23,839 » Sure. Uh the the key to taking this final step is 214 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:30,560 making sure that the business is given 215 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:38,800 explicit notice of what is due, 216 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:42,639 a deadline to pay and the consequences. So there could be a third letter. There 217 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:51,120 would have to be a third letter under the uh home rule city act that says you 218 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:58,880 received prior notes you haven't paid. You are hereby notified that you owe the 219 00:16:55,279 --> 00:17:08,319 city the amount of X. Mhm. >> Uh if the balance is not paid by a 220 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:16,880 certain date whether 1421 2830 whatever the amount will be added the tax rule. 221 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:22,720 Now, in terms of um whether it's real or personal, 222 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:28,799 um the inspection relates, as I understand it, 223 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:37,520 to whether or not the property in question is safe based on the inspection 224 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:40,720 for use as an >> So, I think it's real. 225 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:46,400 » In that case, I would agree. Yes. >> Yeah. Totally. Um, and so, you know, if 226 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:50,559 you'd like a draft of >> a third letter, again, 227 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,120 » has to be explicit, >> okay, 228 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:54,799 » on exactly what's going to happen, >> okay? 229 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:59,360 » Then it can be done. >> So, why don't we uh we'll work on 230 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:03,360 getting a third draft to you as long as we get that third. As long as we can get 231 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:07,039 it back from you >> soon, you know, because because the 232 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:13,840 first letter the second letter was given to them. Um, 233 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:19,120 so they got a letter uh se March 17th and then June 11th. So about every 3 234 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:22,880 months. So June September. So we're about at that three months. We waited 235 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,640 three months and so we're about at that threemonth window from where the first 236 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:31,039 one, the second one, and now the third one. And so um 237 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,000 » so the that I guess the question is really just 238 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:40,720 » how much time do you want to give them, right? You know, to make this payment. 239 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:46,320 » Yeah. I I I feel I feel 15 to 30 day is plenty of after the past three months of 240 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:51,360 you know and so so um what's your thought as far as mailing and maybe hand 241 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,840 delivering also to try to actually face to face touch base with them without 242 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,360 getting yelled at too much? >> Yeah, I don't know if you need face to 243 00:18:55,679 --> 00:19:02,400 face but I do think you need to be able to prove right 244 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:04,400 » that either the owner or an agent received it. 245 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,880 » Right. So, I think that's what we're going to hear is, "Well, I never got 246 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,039 letter number one or number two. This is the first time I'm seeing this." 247 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,840 » So, and and that we can deal with that and we can deal with maybe there's a 248 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,360 mistake in the address or maybe there's a mistake somewhere or the owner or 249 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,320 something like that. We can we can deal with all that, but we just need to we 250 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:23,280 know that there's a handful that are just kind of holding off saying we're 251 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,160 not doing it. You're not going to make us. Well, 252 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,320 » you send them out certified so you have signature of some 253 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:34,720 just it just adds to the expense. and it's only, you know, it's it's $150 and 254 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:39,679 so we're not making this isn't a money-m thing, you know, and we don't want it to 255 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:42,720 cost money either. And so, you know, um let's just try the third letter. I mean, 256 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:46,160 after we sent the second letter, we got quite a few back in. So, maybe let's 257 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,120 just try this third letter, but we wanted the board to know that's kind of 258 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,240 where we're at. That's where we're standing. We're going to try to wrap 259 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:56,480 this up and then we're moving into we're going to be creating a letter and moving 260 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:01,440 into the uh to the rental uh the rental space this fall to you know catching up 261 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,120 with all the uh the commercial rentals and then the residential rentals as 262 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:09,039 well. That's going to be the big the big uh hurdle to climb. So, we do have a 263 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:14,160 list. We're starting to acquire a list here at the city with all the uh the 264 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:18,240 rentals and the and the main players in the rental game here in town. That'll 265 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:23,360 that'll multiple rentals. And so, that'll be that'll be the next challenge 266 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:27,679 is dealing with all of them. >> Any questions? 267 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:32,960 » All right. Thank you, Chief Babcock. >> Next, we have in our packet the clerk's 268 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:36,799 report. Do you have anything to add to that? 269 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:42,559 » I do not. Thank you. We also have the report in the packet of the treasures 270 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:46,559 report. Do you have anything to add? >> So we'll go back. We'll go to the 271 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:50,039 planning commission. There's the report has been provided. 272 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Anything extra for the planning commission. 273 00:20:53,360 --> 00:21:03,440 Cemetery commiss committee has not met. Parks and recreation 274 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,200 advisory board is Miss here. She's working. 275 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,640 » Okay. That meeting was moved till the end of 276 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:14,559 the month. So it has not met for July yet. 277 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:18,880 » All right. Very good. Thank you. And the DDA U mayor prom Martinez 278 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Seratos. >> Um I don't really have anything to add 279 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:30,000 except we're having a meeting tomorrow. We have somebody that's a potential um 280 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,760 what do you call it? >> Board member. 281 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:37,360 » Board member. Thank you. And uh that'll happen tonight probably. So okay, that's 282 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:42,720 all I have. >> Okay. Thank you. Um Bangor Housing 283 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:46,320 Commission, Senior Services. >> Yes. I don't have a whole lot to say, 284 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:50,799 but one thing I would like to say in regards to the Housing Commission, the 285 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:55,280 the Bangor Housing Commission has been in critical status for I don't know how 286 00:21:53,520 --> 00:22:00,559 many years now, at least since I've been on the board, and that's like four 287 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:05,600 years. And we are slowly getting to the point of hopefully within the next year 288 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:11,280 we will be able to get off of that critical status and that will mean that 289 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:16,159 we will probably receive more money from them and um things will just be able to 290 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:20,159 run a whole bunch easier. So we're we're headed in the right direction. It's been 291 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:24,960 a battle but we're we're slowly getting there. And the other thing is that it's 292 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:29,440 kind of interesting. The last few times that I have been down 293 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:34,240 there, I stop by and see Brandy once every couple weeks. Seems like every 294 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:40,400 time I am there, somebody is calling about wanting a place to live. It it's 295 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:45,840 amazing how many people are looking to to get into the the housing commission 296 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:51,360 and there there's no room, you know, we're filled up. So, and she's got a a 297 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:56,880 list of probably I don't know, stack about 10 inches tall of of people with 298 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:01,120 applications. Now, as far as for senior services, there's not a whole lot going 299 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:06,000 on other than than what's been there, but just want to remind people of 300 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:11,440 something. I I saw somebody or talked to somebody the other day and they said, 301 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:16,320 "Well, I can't get there." Well, yes, you can. If you live in Van Beern 302 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:22,000 County, you can ride the transportation bus. The transportation bus will pick 303 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:27,360 you up, will take you to senior services and they also have one or two buses that 304 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,280 come back in the afternoon. So you can go there, you can get involved in 305 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:37,039 activities, you can participate in the lunch and do things. So that should not 306 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:42,240 be an excuse that that is available. Also, uh to remind people and the last 307 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,640 couple months or weeks that we've had the meal, it's been a little on the low 308 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:51,600 side. We do have a meal at the Simpson United Methodist Church, second and 309 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:57,520 fourth Mondays of the month. That's at noon. It's $5. It's the same meal that 310 00:23:54,559 --> 00:24:00,880 they do provide in South Haven. Uh if you know seniors in the community, 311 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,600 invite them, tell them, you know, encourage them to come there. Uh and the 312 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:10,400 other thing is um I found out today I I gave a 313 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:15,919 gentleman a ride from Decatur, a medical ride, and he's he's talking about he 314 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:21,520 needs a new ramp. He was not aware that senior citizen services did ramps for 315 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:25,760 people, you know, and it's amazing some of the stuff that that people are not 316 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:31,919 aware of. And I asked him, I said, "Do you get that uh booklet that comes out 317 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:36,400 every it's quarterly I think it is. It talks about the different places that 318 00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:41,039 has the menus in it." And he says, "No." I said, 'Well, call them and they will 319 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,960 start sending you one of them each month and it tells you about some of the 320 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:50,799 things that they provide in there. So, if you know somebody that is not getting 321 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:55,760 that, contact Senior Services in South Haven and they should get you on the 322 00:24:53,120 --> 00:25:00,240 mailing list so that you can get that. You can see what's going on. And I just 323 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:05,200 encourage more people to use it. You can always It's a fantastic facility they 324 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:09,200 have in South Haven. I I see a few of you people that are there quite a bit, 325 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,480 people that are here in the audience, and it's just you can't beat it. And I I 326 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:19,600 just want some of these people that are missing out to be able to get involved. 327 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:22,400 » Any questions on either of them? >> No. Thank you. 328 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:27,760 » Thank you. >> Okay. Next, we have presentations. Our 329 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:35,360 first presentation is from Bella Point Development Brownfield Plan. And 330 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:39,520 David, are you giving that presentation? >> I am. 331 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:44,400 » Okay. I wasn't sure who was. And we have I believe we have this in our packet. 332 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:49,760 Are we following along in our the handout or is this something different? 333 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:53,679 » Um I am not going to run through every page of 334 00:25:50,960 --> 00:26:01,039 » Okay. Which is quite extensive. >> Yes, it is. Um 335 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:04,000 so um we have guests here to answer questions 336 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,640 from being here in the county Springfield redevelopment authority 337 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:15,679 market one and our developers. So we're here to answer any questions that you 338 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:20,000 have. Um what uh we've been talking about for several months with you and we 339 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:24,960 appreciate all the uh support we're getting is the matter of a brownfield 340 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:32,960 plan to support a residential development project here in the city of 341 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Bangor. Um, a brownfield plan works by uh using the property taxes that are 342 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:44,880 created from the development and using those as a resource to 343 00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:49,520 reimburse the developer for certain eligible costs and in this case 344 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:59,679 infrastructure. Um so it is a situation where we are 345 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:03,919 asking the city to forego the benefit of seeing all the property taxes from the 346 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:11,840 residential development for a period of time but in exchange for that support 347 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:20,000 uh the development can now occur and go forth. Um so the plan is a projection 348 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:24,080 based on how fast we think uh the structures are going to get built out, 349 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:30,080 how much we think the infrastructure is going to cost, how much we think each 350 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:37,279 home is going to be valued at. Uh it's all um educated guess at this point in 351 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:43,440 time. Uh what we do have a pretty good handle on is what the cost of the 352 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:50,240 infrastructure are going to be. Um, this is projected out over a 10-year period, 353 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:56,399 a buildout period. Um, but we're looking at about $5.2 million worth of 354 00:27:53,760 --> 00:28:04,240 infrastructure costs. So, that's roads, water, sewer, um, storm water retention, 355 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:08,399 uh, power, all those things that need to be there before you can construct any 356 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:14,960 homes whatsoever. So, it's a huge investment. 357 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:21,679 uh to make and then hope that you're going to be able to build these homes. 358 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:28,320 So, the brownfield plan provides some u uh some comfort to the developer to know 359 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:34,039 that okay, I can get that back if I can now build these homes. 360 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,039 Um 361 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,960 it only works if there are actually homes built. One question that I know is 362 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:50,559 coming is what happens if the project fails in some way. Uh the developer is 363 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:56,399 going to get whatever benefit they get from their own work, from their own 364 00:28:53,039 --> 00:29:02,080 projects, from their own building and selling of the homes. If there are no 365 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:07,919 homes built, there's no new taxes, there's no benefit to the developer, and 366 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:15,840 there's no loss benefit to the city. So, this plan relies on the developer to go 367 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:24,240 forth and and build this out as fast as they can. Um 368 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:30,880 the benefit to the project and the city too in this brownfield plan is that it's 369 00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:38,240 infrastructure cost. Um uh our developers going to carry this 370 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:43,840 cost for build up here for 10 years. Um, 371 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:48,000 most developers would try to put that infrastructure cost into the sale price 372 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:54,240 of the homes and that would be 373 00:29:50,399 --> 00:30:00,000 82 homes to absorb $5 million. You know, we're talking $62,000 374 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:04,559 which would price these homes out of the market for Bangor. It'd be in the 320 375 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:10,399 330 mix. 376 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:15,039 So, this plan allows a development to happen. 377 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:20,720 I I don't think it will happen without public support. Um, and we don't say 378 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:25,039 that to hold anybody hostage. It's just the facts of the matter that 379 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:31,120 construction is so expensive and the market is only bearing so much. People 380 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:37,039 are only willing to pay or able to pay so much for their homes. So this plan is 381 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:44,559 um projected to last um 25 years. Uh the 382 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:52,240 developer is probably uh looking at about 18 years of um benefit and then 383 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:57,200 the county uh gets a little bit more. One thing that we negotiated 384 00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:02,320 was that with the increased number of residences that there might be more 385 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:11,360 demands on the city for services. makes sense. Um, so as soon as phase one is 386 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:20,399 constructed, which we defined as 30 one homes, I think 31 or 32, I'm sorry. 387 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:26,159 Um, that's the first phase that would trigger a municipal services fee that 388 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:33,120 would be collected every year and would be the equivalent of 35% 389 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:37,919 of your police and fire milites combined and that would be all managed at the 390 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:41,919 county level. Uh, the county brownfield redevelopment authorities managed 391 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:49,679 numerous brownfield plans across the county. Uh so they're very adept at 392 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,000 collecting the taxes locally, distributing what needs to go to the 393 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:58,080 developer and distributing what needs to come back to the city. We're not going 394 00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:05,279 to ask the developer to do that. That's a burden and um I just think it'll be 395 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:09,640 much more streamlined if if we just work between local units of government. 396 00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:16,480 Katie, would you like to say any words about the need for this plan, too? 397 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:20,159 » Yes, I would love to, though. Good evening, council. Katie Molto, Market 398 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:24,880 One, your local economic development organization, serving both you and Cass 399 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:29,200 County. Pleasure to be here tonight. Um, it's my role as the economic development 400 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:35,360 manager to meet with businesses and communities to ensure that they have 401 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:43,120 everything they need to thrive and grow. And one of the consensus needs that we 402 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:49,360 consistently hear is housing. And the one thing that you guys have amongst 403 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:54,240 other things is the control to strategically invest in what the 404 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:59,440 community and businesses are asking. And in the business retention expansion 405 00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:06,559 space, um there's projects going on around here and um businesses are 406 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:09,760 looking to for housing and if we can't provide it locally, 407 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:15,279 they're going to they're going to live somewhere else, right? And so if we can 408 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:18,960 have that here, they are spending their money here. The kids are going to school 409 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,919 here. So I don't have to preach to the choir for the economic impact that it 410 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:29,440 creates, but it's absolutely a need and um we're happy to support um this 411 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:34,240 project of course and then working alongside Dave and Fishbach. They're 412 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:40,399 experts in this. So um we appreciate your support and happy to answer any 413 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:44,880 questions, but absolutely a need and there's some growth and projects going 414 00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:47,880 on that need this. So we we appreciate it. 415 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:56,919 Is there anything that we can answer for you or that we've 416 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,919 » not attended to? 417 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,720 » You've been pretty thorough. >> Appreciate all the information you've 418 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,839 given us. >> We got a lot of reading to do. 419 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:15,440 » I'm a little curious about phase two and phase three. In my packet, I see phase 420 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:21,280 one, but what what is phase two and what is phase three? I'm just curious. 421 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:24,240 » It's just additional build out um both geographically and then with the number 422 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:31,919 of homes. >> Okay. So, um, like 30 site plane that 423 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:36,639 labels them, but, uh, yeah, the first one will be a 424 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:43,520 kind of a street loop and then there'll be homes on the interior and exterior of 425 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:47,359 that loop and then just gradually move westward as as the project builds out. 426 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,879 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. 427 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:54,399 What I also want to add too is that um ideally if we could rip off and 428 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,000 duplicate this, I would love to do that because it's not every day that you have 429 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:04,640 developers knocking on your door like Mr. Spencer is. So it's admirable and 430 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:08,320 it's like a pioneer effort. So it's uh it's very special and unique. So I'm 431 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:13,359 just going to leave it at that. >> Thank you. Any questions? Any 432 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,440 » Thank you very much. >> All right. 433 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,440 You're special. Now, 434 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:29,920 next on our agenda, a Bangor, Michigan festivals. Jeremy Uplinger is here to um 435 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:34,240 present the Apple Festival. >> All right. So, I'm Jeremy Uplinger. I 436 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,839 took over the Apple Festival um recently. 437 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:45,040 Um I filed the paperwork for a GBA. 438 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:51,359 Um we got a tax EIN number. We also have the bank account set up. 439 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:59,119 Um, we're working on flyers, the banner for downtown Charles Park. Um, we're 440 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:03,920 working on the vendor applications, the car show with the Lions Club. We're 441 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,480 kind of teaming up with them, too, so we could 442 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:15,440 kind of keep all this together and keep the the family momentum going with with 443 00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:20,480 the car show and the Apple Festival. Um, also we have the class reunion 444 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,839 that's going to be going on at the Legion later on that that evening after 445 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,839 the car shows. Um, 446 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:36,720 there's a lot of interest in the community of building this thing back up 447 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:42,000 and getting it back to what it was when a lot of us were younger and our kids 448 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:47,599 were little. Um, 449 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:53,040 my motorcycle club is donating like a free kids carnival. 450 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:57,599 We've been building a kids carnival for the last year, year and a half. Um, 451 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:03,200 we'll be donating the free kids carnival, 452 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:10,320 um, carnival games, bounce house, um, the foam party pit thing that's new with 453 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:14,960 all the bubbles and stuff. Um, if the weather permits, 454 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:20,560 um, I'd like to bring a signup sheet down here 455 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:25,920 for volunteers for like in the office if people wanted to volunteer to either 456 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:31,920 help work the thing or participate in some of the the functions or vendor 457 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:37,839 applications. I want to make sure that the city stays completely involved in 458 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:43,680 this as well because this doesn't just benefit the community, it also benefits 459 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:48,880 people coming in. We have a lot of people coming for the car show anyways. 460 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:54,800 Um there's going to be two 461 00:37:51,920 --> 00:38:01,119 uh craft shows. One they'll be at two different churches 462 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:06,000 here in town um during that weekend. So there's a lot of stuff already coming 463 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:11,440 into this starting off and that's starting with zero money at all. So we 464 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:16,640 are about finished with all the paperwork. 465 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:22,079 Um we will have some kind of like vendor application and stuff for you guys by 466 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:29,440 the next meeting so you guys know kind of what the vendor application fee um 467 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:35,280 layout looks like. um and kind of our flyer and 468 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:40,480 our banner for Charles Park and all that as well. Okay. For the I have a 469 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:46,160 question. I'm not sure who to direct it to exactly, but for the children's 470 00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:50,480 portion, do we need insurance if there's bounce houses and things going on? Is 471 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,680 does there need to be an insurance? >> You'd want to have binder. 472 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,720 » Yeah, you'd want to have insurance anyway. a general 473 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,440 » and general insurance will cover everything. 474 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,440 » Yeah, Rocky Johnson normally does that for us. 475 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,720 » Okay. And that covers everything. >> That's in my packet of 476 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:08,240 » perfect things. Once we get to that point, 477 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,560 » we will acquire insurance at least for the weekend or for the day. 478 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:13,680 » Okay. >> Um 479 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,440 » Rocky normally writes all that stuff for us. 480 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,400 » October 10th. >> October 10th. 481 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,400 » October 10th. >> Very good. 482 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:25,200 » Madam Mayor, I have a >> Please. Are you going to have a dunk 483 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,960 tank that Jerry can Jerry can put up on the chair? 484 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:34,280 » If I go, will you go? >> Absolutely. 485 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,280 » I've got the dunk tanks already ordered. 486 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:45,680 » I own the dunk tank, so better. >> Okay. Any questions? Did you I just want 487 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:50,160 to clarify you We're going to close down M43 for the cars this year, too, right? 488 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,760 » Yeah. Uh, the Lions Club has already filled out that paperwork and I believe 489 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,560 it's already been approved for >> Yes, it has. 490 00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:00,240 » All right. So, yeah, that's that'll be closed down from like 6:00 a.m. to 2:30, 491 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:03,680 I believe. >> Like to hang out. 492 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:08,720 » So, it will be right down Main Street like it always is. And then 493 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,320 » I'm still kind of working on where we're going to put 494 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:18,160 » uh the kids carnival and stuff. We're still kind of ironing that out. Um, I'd 495 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:22,720 like to put it between Roma's and Dale's hair care, but we're still talking to 496 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,800 people right now. So, 497 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:29,760 » well, Jeremy, thank you so much for taking this on 498 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:36,320 » for the city. Um, one thing when I um came to be on 499 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:40,960 council in this office, that was the one request that people had was to bring 500 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,400 back Apple Festival. So, thank you so much for starting that and and getting 501 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:50,079 the ball rolling. And I got some lo I got some local people that are helping 502 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:55,119 me get this going with a lot of support from the community as well. So it's not 503 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:59,359 just it's not just me doing it there. There's a lot of locals that are that 504 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:04,640 were meeting and trying to get things put together and try to get people, you 505 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,960 know, in the right right places to make the right moves to to bring this back 506 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,800 and make it >> but you're kind of the central cog. So 507 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,920 thank you. That's a that's a big >> because he's such a people person. 508 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:25,680 » Anything else council? Okay. Thank you very much. 509 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:31,440 » Okay. Um the next action item is the marijuana licensing and potential new 510 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,440 business. And that's Mark Smith. Mr. Smith. 511 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,960 » Hi. >> Well, my name is Mark Smith. I own the 512 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,599 green door pure Michigan growers green spout on non-industrial park. Um before 513 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,880 I get started I'd just like to comment that in my opinion any housing you can 514 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,880 do in Bangor you need to really look at that. That's an important thing to grow 515 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,920 your city and and housing is a need. I think I've called you what like three 516 00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:03,760 times looking for housing for my employees. So I encourage you to look at 517 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:07,680 that. Uh secondly uh we want to be the main sponsor for the Apple Fest this 518 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,480 year for our business. So, we've already reached out to them. We're going to be 519 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,520 on the committee. So, we want to help support that as well. 520 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:23,440 Uh, I'm here tonight to warmly ask the city of Eno to change the ordinance 209 521 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:28,400 adopted February 5th, 2020, recreational adult use marijuana establishment 522 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:34,480 ordinance, page 2, section 4, adult use marijuana establishment, part three, 523 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:40,079 not to exceed more than three retails, uh, authorized by the city. uh you'd 524 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:45,520 like to make a request that be changed to one. 525 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:54,800 In 2025, uh the state put a bill through 597 to introduce uh to the house uh in 526 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:58,560 an attempt to stop the oversaturation of the marijuana situation in the state of 527 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:04,240 Michigan. If you know New Buffalo, you know what I'm talking about. Um their 528 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:10,319 recommendation in that bill is to have one for every 5,000 residents. Um that 529 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:16,000 bill's been on hold until after the vote from the governor. So it's supposed to 530 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:21,760 um hit the floor after that. It it it appears from the people I've talked to 531 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:26,960 that it'll probably go through. Um so we're asking you to be a little more 532 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:32,880 proactive and and help us there. And I'd like to touch base a little bit about 533 00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:39,359 why that's important to me and to you. Okay. In 2017, I've committed my time, 534 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:43,359 effort, money, investment in Bangor's economy. 535 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:48,720 And I'd just like to share a few numbers with you, just so you know. 536 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:54,720 So, I built all those factories out there, three of them, 537 00:43:51,440 --> 00:44:01,280 and that was a cost of $5 million to do that. And over the over that time, we've 538 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:06,079 created $82,000 worth of tax base a year from that vacant land since we've been 539 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:11,839 there. So every year, that's 82,000 that we generated that the money that goes to 540 00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:18,640 that tax base to the city. Beyond that, the state, because I have a 541 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:24,960 retail store, the city gets paid between 55 and $59,000 a year. And since I've 542 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:31,119 been there, the city has recouped 30 72,000 because I'm there. The state 543 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:36,000 actually pays the city because I'm there. 544 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:39,200 Okay. So, it's a good deal for for you for me to be there and it's a really 545 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:43,119 good deal for me and my employees for us to be there. But we want to stay there 546 00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:48,240 and it's been really difficult. the market is saturated and our margins have 547 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:52,400 really shrank and every time a new business comes in and there's been three 548 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:57,839 of them across the street and now a new one going in in Breezeville I take about 549 00:44:55,359 --> 00:45:04,000 a 20% deduction for for 6 8 months to fight 550 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:09,440 that and last year it almost got us but I pumped another 100 grand in it to keep 551 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:13,359 it running and here we are but my grow depends on that as well because that's 552 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:19,440 where I sell that to and that keeps those 50 employees. So, we have 37 553 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:27,520 employees in these groups which we pay about $1.5 million of um pay to them a 554 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:32,560 year. They, you know, they need that money, too. So, 555 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:37,280 that's why that portion is important to us as well. 556 00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:44,400 The licensing fees that we pay since we've been here has been $762,000. 557 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:48,800 That's what I've paid out over an 8-year period to be here. 558 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,760 Let that sink in. That's a lot of money, right? 559 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:57,280 » Okay. So, the Bambiran County also receives a 560 00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:03,280 portion of that money that I pay in. They also receive $279,000 561 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:08,319 because we're here. So the county also receives that money. 562 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:14,720 So it's a benefit and I, you know, I'm preaching to the choir about that. We've 563 00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:20,000 also invested about $30,000 into the city with just pure donations, us 564 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:25,520 giving, and people ask the fire department, um, fireworks, 565 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:33,119 whatever it is, we're happy to do it. Softball games, whatever it is. Um, 566 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:40,400 recently I just put a bid in on the property at 133 West Monroe 567 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:46,400 with the idea that I would move my business over there 568 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:51,280 because it's a bigger space. The problem I have is the space contains 569 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:56,480 two uh sections to it about 2,000 square 570 00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:01,920 foot each. So, what to do with the other space? So, I was asking the city 571 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:06,880 recently, what do you guys need? What what business could I put in there that 572 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:11,359 would benefit the city? Uh, one of the big ones that came up to 573 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:19,359 the top of the list was we were thinking about putting a dog grooming dog uh 574 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:23,520 store in there. Okay. And and house dogs and whatnot. We were told that you guys 575 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:29,599 were thinking about making a dog park, so that might tie into that. Um, 576 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:33,520 somebody suggested a tackle store. Um, I'm I'm open to suggestions. We can't 577 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:38,480 let the space sit empty, but if I'm going to move over there, that project 578 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:43,680 will cost about $245,000 just to move over there and to get it 579 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:48,240 all back up to code. And I really don't want to invest that money into the city 580 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:53,520 if I'm going to have to fight another dispensary for 6, eight months to stay 581 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:59,119 alive. So, that's my pitch. 582 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:03,520 So, I really like you. I've asked before and it hasn't really seemed to go 583 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,720 anywhere. This time, I'd really like you guys to talk about it and see what you 584 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:10,880 think. >> So, Mark, I have a question. Um, I know 585 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,319 that the green door is in other communities. 586 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,119 » We are. >> And I suspect in the other communities, 587 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:21,760 I don't know this as a fact, that you have competition. 588 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:28,960 » Yeah, we try to stay away as much as we can like in South Haven. Um 589 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:34,240 and the same thing happened. Uh they had three uh and and there's two left and 590 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:39,200 the other one I'm being told is going to close soon. So, you know, we try to run 591 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:45,119 our margins really small so that we can compete, but it's a really hard 592 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:49,839 to to stay open. >> So, are you going to South Haven asking 593 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:53,680 them to reduce the number of licenses? >> Yeah, we already have actually. And we 594 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,800 also asked them to let us put a drive-thru through, which they're going 595 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:05,119 to do. Um, uh, we also asked for a license reduction from the 5,000. You 596 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:11,599 guys have already done it. Um, to the 2500 that we pay here. Uh, they started 597 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:16,640 out at 5,000 like a lot of places do. Um, we did get a few 598 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,480 sort of like what they're asking for. We we bought that land and had to build it. 599 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,839 We had to put the infrastructure in. So we got a little tax abatement for a 600 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,520 little bit to get that done. So we did ask for a few things to build that 601 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,200 building and get it up. It was about a million dollar build out for that 602 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:37,920 building. Water delete was a little different. Um you know we bought the old 603 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:44,880 um uh restaurant there right next to Casey's. Uh that was about a five uh 604 00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:49,280 about a $500,000 remodel uh to bring it back up to code. and they waved a few 605 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:53,599 fees for us as well there to get that up and get it up to code and whatnot. So, 606 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,359 » so what I'm hearing you say is you would like the council to look at reducing the 607 00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:01,040 number of licenses available for competition. 608 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,720 » Yes. >> Okay. And that of course is not on the 609 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,960 agenda tonight. This just a presentation. But I just wanted to 610 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,400 clarify what you're what you're asking us. 611 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,599 » It's just harder to say in business. I don't I'm just going to be honest. I 612 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:19,720 don't want to make that kind of an investment across the street 613 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,040 if I'm going to have to go down that battle again. 614 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,559 » Sure. So, >> Mark, I have one more question, too. So, 615 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,920 are you planning on doing something with the present building or is that 616 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:32,240 » Well, we're not sure about that either. You know, I just put a facelift on that 617 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,640 building, >> but it's got some issues, too. I 618 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:40,400 probably want to tear it down and build something new. Um, but it's got some 619 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,720 basement issues, and that's part of the reason as well. So, you know, the water 620 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:51,040 table there when I first bought that building came right to the floor. And we 621 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:56,000 we basically had to put 2 ft of sand in there to so the water wouldn't come up 622 00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:59,920 and put two cell pumps in. So, it's not the ideal. It's very small space. I've 623 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:05,680 tried to buy the building next to me. Bobby won't sell it to me. Um not sure 624 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:09,359 why. Um but um >> so 625 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:13,040 » that that's my next option. That is a really nice space. It needs a lot of 626 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:18,720 work though. It has electrical issues. It has a roof issue. It has water in the 627 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:24,640 basement as well, but it's fixable. Um, a B dry system would probably fix that 628 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:29,119 situation pretty quick. But it would be an investment. Yes. 629 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,079 » I'm more I'm more concerned about what I would do with the other side. 630 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:37,440 » Well, I was just going to ask that. So, have you done any kind of um 631 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,760 investigation surveys besides just asking? 632 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:42,720 » No, I' i've looked a little bit online about certain businesses, how they 633 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,800 perform. >> Um, 634 00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:48,559 » but I, you know, I I threw it out to, >> you know, to the city a little bit. It's 635 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,000 like, >> sure, 636 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:55,119 » as you know, what do people ask for, >> you know, cuz I don't I don't know. I 637 00:51:53,839 --> 00:52:01,520 mean, in your line of business, obviously a bakery would 638 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:06,240 that was that was a coffee shop bakery was brought up as well. That would be 639 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,160 right down my daughter's alley. She's she's in the coffee 640 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:16,079 » snob. >> But like I told her, you're not going to 641 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:19,359 sell a $8 cup of coffee in Bangor. >> Maybe 642 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:23,680 » I say summer is my best friend right now. 643 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:28,000 » Okay. So, anything else, council? Yes. >> Sure. 644 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:33,760 » Does any other party, any other entity right now hold you you talked about 645 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:40,880 competition that hasn't really panned out. Um but does any entity hold a 646 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,280 provisioning license other than Green Door? 647 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,760 » No. >> So any anything anybody had has expired? 648 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,359 » Yes. >> Thank you. 649 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,359 » Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you very much, 650 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:58,400 » Mayor. I would just like to add I I wouldn't I wouldn't think of it as uh 651 00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:02,240 limiting competition, but more of supporting a local business that's been 652 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:08,240 here since 2018 and >> has really helped the city um provide 653 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:12,720 employment and you talked about the tax revenues and whatnot. Um I would I would 654 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:16,880 approach it that way, not on limiting competition. 655 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:20,000 » Okay, great. That's a positive spin on that, Mark. 656 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:26,079 » Yeah. Thank you. So, um, manager Weber, what do we do 657 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,839 with this next to >> uh there I don't think there's any 658 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,280 action for >> I'm not for tonight. 659 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,280 » Tonight, but um maybe at a future council meeting we would have on the 660 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:39,200 agenda for for a motion. >> Okay, great. Thank you. 661 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:42,319 » Something we want to look at. Maybe >> that's completely up to the council. 662 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,760 Yeah. If you direct us to do that, we can do it. 663 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:49,760 » It sounds like you're endorsing that um as the as as a state manager, 664 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,960 » local business. Yeah, exactly. >> I feel like with the information we were 665 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,400 given tonight, it should be put on the agenda and up for a vote. 666 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,440 » Can we put that on the >> Yes. 667 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:02,960 » Is it like put on agenda to vote to update it or are we making changes to it 668 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:07,359 already when it comes in front of us? >> Scott, what would you recommend? 669 00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:12,640 » Well, you'd have to uh this would be an ordinance change. So, you'd have to put 670 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:19,200 it on for a first reading and either then or 671 00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:25,359 at the next meeting take action on whether to go forward with it. Um, and I 672 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:34,319 do think I would make one comment about I have any dis factual disagreement with 673 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:39,359 what Mark said. Uh, the bill that uh is presently pending 674 00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:45,280 um is seems bogged down. 675 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:50,000 Uh and it could well be because people are waiting to see the outcome of the 676 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:54,800 election. Um 677 00:54:52,480 --> 00:55:01,440 the it started actually uh being proposed as 678 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:09,119 one provisioning license per 10,000 people dropped down at least seems like 679 00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:13,760 for working versions to five. Um, 680 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:19,280 and it's a lot harder on small communities than large ones. 681 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:23,920 Um, and you know there are examples that are 682 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:28,640 not Bangor. The most common example is KCASa. They have an inability. They have 683 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:34,800 five. They receive almost $275,000 684 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:39,119 a year for those. And if they were to get cut to one, they'd be down to 685 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:44,599 59,000. Well, Bangor isn't that, but I'm just telling you it's something that 686 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,599 there's 687 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:52,160 legislature is struggling over it because there are issues, you know, uh 688 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:59,520 all the way uh around. The proponents would like it to kind of morph into uh 689 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:05,119 the model used by the liquor control commission, which is one license per 690 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,559 certain number of people. Kind of along those lines, not exactly. and we could 691 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,400 do something similar to the ordinance that way. 692 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,319 » Well, you still would be picking your numbers, but I'm just saying that's kind 693 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:23,440 of what they're looking at because at the same time, the bill uh has an 694 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:34,079 equally strong component that says anyone who owes uh any state or local 695 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:40,640 taxes uh cannot cannot have a license. So they're they're trying to get it uh 696 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:46,400 more than one problem, but um you would if you wanted to consider this think you 697 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:52,319 would put it on the agenda. I mean the the amendment itself very simple. I mean 698 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:56,960 we're talking about I think literally one sentence. 699 00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:04,640 um and then have a first reading and then discuss it and then uh uh set it 700 00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:07,680 for um a second reading which would mean either adoption or rejection. 701 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,400 » Okay. >> I have a question. Um, would it be 702 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:17,359 acceptable to put in the ordinance something like 703 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:23,839 to the effect of with our town growing that in 10 years the ordinance could be 704 00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:29,520 relooked at see the population um change and if we've grown that we could um 705 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,920 bring back a second license or something like that? 706 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:37,040 » Well, you could do that. The answer is yes, 707 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:44,079 but you could do that anyway. Um, out of fairness, if this is done to 708 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:50,240 be supportive of a local business, you might want to build in a period of time 709 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:54,400 when you would be guaranteed no additional license. And then of course 710 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:58,319 when that time period was up, whatever you chose. 711 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,040 » So like no additional license for five years. 712 00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:06,240 » Five years, three, five, 10, 20, 50, whatever. 713 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,799 » Sure. So, I feel like we might not always be the same size that we are 714 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,520 today. >> Well, we hope not, 715 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:18,559 » right? I mean, thanks to Spencer, we hope we we hope not. Right. So, Right. 716 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:22,799 » And I think that will keep up the um momentum of 717 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:28,319 um businesses helping the city, >> but yet following manager Weber's 718 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,520 suggestion of supporting the local businesses who have supported us. 719 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,040 » That's right. Yeah. So, >> I think as we just take a look at it, 720 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,559 just probably look at as a whole because I think there's a different section of 721 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:41,920 it that might call out like Sundays and stuff like that that we can correct at 722 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:45,200 the same time that I think preferably we want to get 723 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:50,880 » corrected. So, >> very good overhaul as a as a whole. 724 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:56,480 » Okay. Anything else on that subject? Okay. Thank you very much um council and 725 00:58:54,240 --> 00:59:03,119 u Mr. Smith. The next item we have is a resolution 726 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:10,319 and I call let's Oops, I just lost my spot here. Okay. Um, a resolution 727 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:16,960 2026 23 supporting the adoption of a 728 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:23,440 brownfield plan Bella Point development. Um and 729 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:27,920 whereas the city of Bangor pursuant to and in accordance with the provisions of 730 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:34,880 the Brownfield Redevelopment Financing Act being act 381 of the public act of 731 00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:38,960 the state of Michigan of 1996 as amended has formally resolved to participate in 732 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:43,599 the Van Beerren County Brownfield Redevelopment Authority and has 733 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:49,359 designated that all related activities shall proceed through the authority And 734 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:53,920 whereas the authority pursuant to and in accordance with section 13 of the act 735 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:59,359 has reviewed and recommended for approval the Brownfield plan attached 736 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:03,599 here too to be carried out within the city of Bangor relating to the 737 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:09,200 development of property located at Summit Road, Bangor, Michigan, as shown 738 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:13,520 in figures one and two of the plan and more particularly described in the legal 739 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:18,480 description of the property contained within the attached plan. Is that Do I 740 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,760 need to read any more of that or is that >> No, you don't need to. 741 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:25,760 » Okay, good. >> You're You're free to 742 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,839 » Oh, that's good. That's good. I just wanted to make sure that everybody was 743 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:37,119 clear exactly what we were doing. Okay. So, I call for a motion to support the 744 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:45,680 adoption of Brownfield Plan Bell development. Could I uh uh uh are you is 745 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:50,799 the council ready to vote on this uh or do you need further review of the 746 01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:54,799 materials? I I'm just asking. >> Well, we've 747 01:00:52,960 --> 01:01:00,000 in my opinion I think we're ready to vote on it. Um we've been going through 748 01:00:57,839 --> 01:01:04,799 this for several months. We have a lot of information. If any of the council 749 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:12,640 members disagree with me, please speak now and we can, you know, we'll table 750 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:17,400 it. Otherwise, I I feel we are ready to support the adoption of the brownfield 751 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,400 plan. 752 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:24,880 » But when you're asking for a motion, it's a motion to take action, whether 753 01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:28,000 that's >> uh positive or negative. 754 01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:34,000 » Right. And that's for the that's for the resolution. Yes. 755 01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:39,599 So I call for for a motion yes to take action on the resolution of 202623. 756 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,920 So move >> second. 757 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:48,599 » Okay. Um being moved and seconded. Is there any discussion on that motion? 758 01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:54,920 And we'll ask for a roll call vote. 759 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:00,799 » Council member Rivers. >> Yes. 760 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,960 » Council member Murphy. Yes. >> Council member Doro. 761 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,520 » Yes. >> Council member Garcia. 762 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,400 » Yes. >> Council member Wall. 763 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,359 » Yes. >> Mayor Pro Tim Martinez Cadoos. 764 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:17,119 » Yes. >> Mayor McM. 765 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:22,319 » Yes. So the um resolution has passed unanimously for the adoption of the 766 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:26,720 Brownfield Bell point development plan. >> Congratulations. 767 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:33,599 » Thank you. Okay. Now the next thing we have is new 768 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:40,799 business and that is action item second reading of the adopt ordinance of 299 769 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:46,319 resoning 700 Lincoln. And I know there's just a small bit here 770 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:50,640 that I need to read. >> Got it. I think I got it here. Yep. 771 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:54,559 » I'm organized this time. Good job. The purpose of this ordinance is to 772 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:59,599 amend the official zoning map of the city of Bangor by changing the zoning 773 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:04,559 classification of the property commonly known as 700 Lincoln Avenue, Bangor, 774 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:09,440 Michigan from R1 single family residential district to R3 multiple 775 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:16,400 family residential district in accordance with the Michigan Zoning 776 01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:20,160 Enabling Act public act 110 of 2006 as amended and the city of Bangor zoning 777 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:31,119 ordinance. Um, this is a second reading. So, I call 778 01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:36,720 for a motion um to adopt the ordinance 299 reszoning 700 Lincoln Avenue. 779 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:40,240 » Mayor, I'm sorry. I don't want to >> Oh, did you guys have the public hearing 780 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:45,119 at this? >> Yeah, we're Shel got us all set. We are 781 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:50,960 good. We're ready to rock and roll. >> Keeps us. 782 01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:57,359 » Okay. So, um, be that said, I, um, I I need the motion, please. 783 01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:02,880 I'll make a motion. Okay. Second. Okay. Motion has been moved and seconded to 784 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:07,920 adopt ordinance 299, reszoning 700 Lincoln Avenue. Um, we need a roll call 785 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,240 vote for that, please. >> Council member Murphy, 786 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,400 » yes. >> Council member Doro, 787 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:15,119 » yes. >> Council member Garcia, 788 01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:18,559 » yes. >> Council member Rivers, 789 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,559 » yes. Council member Wall. 790 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,599 » Yes. >> Mayor Pro Tim Martinez. 791 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:28,000 » Yes. >> Mayor McMrum. 792 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:32,079 » Yes. So the action item for the adoption of ordinance has passed um unanimous. 793 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:36,480 » Finally. >> Thank you. 794 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:42,240 » Okay. Finally. Yes. Okay. The next one is the second reading and to adopt 795 01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:46,000 ordinance 300 for flood plane management. 796 01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:52,079 And the second reading of that 797 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:57,119 is community name city of Bangor, Van Beern County, Michigan. an amended 798 01:04:53,920 --> 01:05:02,000 ordinance to affirm an enforcing agency to discharge the responsibility of the 799 01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:08,079 city of Bangor located in Van Beern County and to designate regulated flood 800 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:17,280 hazard areas under the provisions of the state construction code act number 230 801 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:23,039 of the public acts of 1972 as amended. Um, I call for a motion 802 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:27,119 for that ordinance. Adopting that ordinance. 803 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:32,680 » Make a motion that we adopt ordinance number three 0.9. 804 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:45,119 Okay. Um, any discussion, questions? We moved and seconded the um adopt 805 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:50,640 ordinance 299 resoning or no, sorry, excuse me. Um, we moved and seconded 806 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:55,119 ordinance 300, floodplane management. Um, we need a roll call vote, please. 807 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,359 » Council member Murphy, >> yes. 808 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,440 » Council member Doro, >> yes. 809 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,319 » Council member Garcia, >> yes. 810 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,160 » Mayor Pro Martinez, >> yes. 811 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,240 » Council member Rivers, >> yes. 812 01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:08,160 » Council member Wall, >> yes. 813 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:12,880 » Mayor McCum, >> yes. 814 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:18,160 Okay. And that also has passed that action item. The next thing we need to 815 01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:24,480 um action item is the regular city council meeting 97 needs to be 816 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:31,200 rescheduled to 98 due to the holiday. So we um I uh 817 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,359 call for a motion to reschedule that meeting, please. 818 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:38,880 » I'll make a motion that we reschedule the regular city council member on or 819 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:41,760 council meeting on 97 to be rescheduled to 98 due to the holiday. 820 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:47,680 » Second. >> Okay. And um all those in favor of 821 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:53,520 changing that meeting signify by saying I. 822 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:59,440 » All those the same. No. Okay. Motion is passed. 823 01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:05,760 And the next action item we have is a DDA appointment of Ashley Carrington. 824 01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:10,799 Um Ashley Carrington, I don't know if any of you know her. Um 825 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:16,079 I just met her last week. She is the nighttime manager at 826 01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:23,599 Hardings. Um, she is interested in sitting on the DDA as a 827 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:29,280 business is representing a business, the Harding's business in the DDA. Um, I 828 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:34,720 think she's from what I can see, I recommend that we we appoint her. 829 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:41,839 » I'll make a motion that we appoint Ashley Carrington to the DDA. 830 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:46,880 » Okay. Um all those in favor of appointing Ashley Carrington um signify 831 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:52,799 by saying I. >> All those against opposed. No. 832 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:56,079 » Okay. So Ashley Carrington and she would have been here tonight but um one of her 833 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,200 employees is in the hospital and she couldn't get off to meet you. So she she 834 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:02,400 did try to do that. >> Guess it's come to the DDA meeting. 835 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:07,760 » There you go. >> No. Yeah. What's happening? 836 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:11,119 » Okay. Um, so city manager updates and closing 837 01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:15,200 comments. >> Uh, yeah, just real quick, uh, the air 838 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:19,440 raators that we discussed at the last council meeting, the frames have been 839 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:24,719 sent up to Kennedy and they're currently rebuilding them. Uh, we hope to get 840 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:29,759 those back soon. Um, Shel's working on a new project. We are going to try and get 841 01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:36,239 a new city website that's going to be much more uh userfriendly 842 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:40,480 and it's going to have like an AI search searchable feature on the website. So, 843 01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:44,880 it's going to be really cool. Um, we're looking at October time frame for that. 844 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:48,159 » That's excuse me ADA compliant. >> Yes. Yeah, that is one of the important 845 01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:52,159 things. I think I mentioned it to the council, but all websites have to be all 846 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:57,440 government websites have to be ADA compliant. And uh this new website will 847 01:08:55,359 --> 01:09:01,679 be ADA compliant where our current one's not right now. 848 01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:06,319 Uh if you haven't drove by the Quanza hut yet, please do. Bill has worked very 849 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,759 hard on getting that repainted and this week public works is putting in the new 850 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,799 windows for that. So it should be wrapped up here real soon. Uh we also 851 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:20,960 have a utility billing specialist position posted on our website and on 852 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:25,920 Indeed. Uh Amanda is leaving us in Novemberish. 853 01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:29,920 Um, so we're looking to to replace her position if if we can. I don't know if 854 01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:34,080 we can do that, but we're going to try. >> Uh, we also have a request for 855 01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:38,319 information posted on our website for an accountant to help with our audits and 856 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:43,199 some of our, uh, accounting and financial obligations. 857 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:49,839 And then last, the well, not last, uh, the Honor a Hero 858 01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:56,800 campaign is currently at $4,275. So, we are only $725 away from reaching 859 01:09:53,359 --> 01:10:00,560 our goal. And then lastly, uh, as Patty mentioned, the DDA meeting is tomorrow, 860 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:05,440 but it'd be great to have some public come to those meetings because that's 861 01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:09,360 where all the downtown projects are developed and and decided on, and it'd 862 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:12,480 be great to have public there to give some input on some of those downtown 863 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,800 projects. >> And what time is it? 864 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,400 » 7 o'clock tomorrow. >> Right here. 865 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,600 » Yep. >> Thank you. 866 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,280 » That's all I have. >> That's all. Thank you very much. Um, 867 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,440 Mr. >> Can I just say one? 868 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:30,560 » Yeah, I was just going to ask you >> the third letter that we talked about. I 869 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,719 sent the text of the letter to the two of you. 870 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,920 » Okay. >> Aren't you efficient? 871 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,159 » Well, thank you. 872 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:44,159 » It's like send >> We've done this before. 873 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:50,719 » Okay. >> Thank you. Um, council member closing 874 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:57,600 comments. Um, Council Member Rivers, uh, thank everybody for coming out and, 875 01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:02,800 uh, even though our new council member was voted in a 876 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:10,560 little while ago, but was unable to attend. So, welcome to your very first 877 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:13,920 council meeting. Hope we impressed you and uh, just thank everybody else for 878 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,199 being here. >> Do you want to go next or do you want me 879 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:22,480 to skip you to last? Wait till last. Okay, that's 880 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:27,520 um Council Member Doro, thanks for coming. Um 881 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:33,360 lots of thank yous really out here with everything that's going on with Spencer, 882 01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:39,120 what you're doing and and what you're doing with keeping up all 883 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:44,000 the, you know, inspections and the Bangor, it's now Bangor, Michigan 884 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:49,600 Festival. Can't thank you guys enough. I know you're working really hard and you 885 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:55,120 guys really work well together um and have some great ideas. It should be a 886 01:11:51,360 --> 01:12:01,600 real blast. Um so, uh thank everybody for what you're doing. Um we're doing 887 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:08,719 baby steps and we will as a council be at the open house for the school 888 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:14,159 back the backpack giveaway. We will be there set up for some fun games like we 889 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:18,400 did before. So come and visit us and have a good time. 890 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:23,920 » Council member Garcia, >> I just want to say as an individual that 891 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:28,080 I feel like um our city has finally turned a corner. I think the air feels 892 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,560 lighter. I'm sure a lot of people would agree. Um I'm really excited about the 893 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:37,440 good things that are happening in Bangor. And I want to say thank you to 894 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:42,560 Jeremy. I knew we'd see you back again soon at one of your other got to be back 895 01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:48,000 » and I know that you know how to party. So, I'm looking forward to Apple 896 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:52,719 Festival. >> So, uh yeah, thank you for that. And 897 01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:56,800 Steve, thank you for your guys and all their hard work that they put in every 898 01:12:54,159 --> 01:13:00,480 day. We really appreciate them. and um as far as the inspections go, I think 899 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:06,320 it's a really good thing to make our city more safe 900 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,840 and more presentable and pleasing to everybody. So, yeah, I just want to 901 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:13,840 thank all the departments for all their hard work and dedication they put in 902 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:18,239 every day. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Council Member Murphy. 903 01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:21,920 » I'll just thank everybody for coming out and everybody everybody's doing to 904 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,280 everything you guys are doing to, you know, make Bangor better. Uh we're 905 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:29,120 definitely moving that way and hopefully we can keep that way and we're excited 906 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,120 about the Apple Festival. Definitely >> definitely being back downtown's nice. 907 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:36,400 So >> yeah, 908 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:40,880 » all set. Council member Wall, >> I don't have anything tonight. 909 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:45,600 » Okay, thank you. Um Mayor Pro Tim Martinez. 910 01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:48,960 » Yes. So I was going to discuss that. Um we will be at the school, but I wanted 911 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:54,640 to ask you guys if you wanted to be there. Um, I called it the meet and 912 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:58,800 greet the council with a treat. So, we played a game last year. Um, I had a 913 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,840 pool filled with water and then they came and picked a duck and if you got a 914 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:06,480 duck with a star, you got a big giant candy bar and 915 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:11,760 » not that big. >> And the three-foot ones, 916 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,199 if you didn't get one, you still got a treat. You still got a treat. So, the 917 01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:18,480 kids love that. So, I was going to ask you guys if you wanted to do that again, 918 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,480 but you already said you did. So, >> I think we will be there. 919 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,159 » We will be there. >> I think we will be. That's okay. 920 01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:29,600 » Um anyway, I'll have everything if you guys want to. This is just um donations 921 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:35,520 for from our personal money. It doesn't have anything to do with city money. Um 922 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:40,960 we are just donating our time and money for this event. So, um maybe we'll see 923 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:46,719 some of you guys out there. But thank you to everyone that's uh moving forward 924 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:52,960 with projects. I think it's time that things start changing around here and 925 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:56,480 I'm so glad it is. So, um, thank you everyone for coming tonight. 926 01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:01,440 » Thank you. >> All right. Um 927 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:09,120 member um council members in your packet there is a um governing board audit that 928 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:15,040 needs to be sent to and I think Hela just popped it over um that needs to be 929 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:20,960 filled out and sent directly to uh Vervelt Vavvel. 930 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:29,520 Um, what I'm wondering is if we can get um can we get envelopes may maybe 931 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:34,239 self-ress stamped envelopes to make it >> make the possibility of getting those 932 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:39,600 surveys to them a little bit more convenient. 933 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:44,960 » Okay. Thank you. Um, also I uh represented Bangor at the renewable 934 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:52,000 energy um update regarding public act 233 and 234 specifically for battery and 935 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:59,120 solar renewable energy. Um, several townships are in various phases of um 936 01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:02,239 looking at renewable energy. Um, if you would like some more specifics, let me 937 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:07,679 know. They do have another meeting coming up at the end of September that 938 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:14,719 probably planning commission um probably be a good thing for more than just me to 939 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:18,880 go um if possible. It's it's it there's a lot to it. 940 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:24,640 » Okay. I was also invited to a meet and greet with Bronson um South Haven and 941 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:31,040 Lake View Hospital executive team last week. Um they cover a 9count region. 1 942 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:37,040 million people are served and 3.5 million outpatient visits are um given 943 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:41,280 each year. Uh the administrative team is proud of the fact that they all live in 944 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:46,080 Bambiran County and are very cognizant of the unique needs throughout the 945 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:53,440 service area. There is an open house for Susan Heinrich at the Bronson Blueest 946 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:59,040 Star Family Clinic um on September 3rd from 4 to 6. And I do have letters that 947 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:03,199 if any of you would like that because she's been in she's been here for how 948 01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:07,679 many years? 30 >> 30 some years. A lot of people know her. 949 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:13,440 So I do have the information here if you would like one. Um so you could go to 950 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:19,120 that open house. Um South Haven is also adding um two MDs in September and a 951 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:22,960 physician's assistant. So they're trying to stay pace with what's going on as 952 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:28,320 well. So, um, we did have a question about how 953 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:33,520 is that going to impact Bangor and I have sent out a um a a request to them 954 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:37,120 because there was so much I was there an hour and a half and there was so much 955 01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:40,000 that they we went through. I I know that there are some changes that are going to 956 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:45,440 be happening in Bangor, but I want to get the specifics before I 957 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:50,560 state anything. So, I make sure I have the facts for you. But, thank you for 958 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:57,040 coming. Thank you for everybody who is really working on making Bangor to be a 959 01:17:52,560 --> 01:18:07,440 better place. Um, and that's all I have. Okay. So, I need a 960 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:10,239 uh motion to um adjourn the meeting at 8:18 p.m. 961 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,280 » I'll make a motion to join the meeting at 8:18 p.m. 962 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,040 » Second. >> All in favor signify by saying I. 963 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:19,040 » I. Anybody wants to