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And, Lord, so we just ask that you would guide us, Father God. Lord, your word tells us, Lord, that we need to care about our community, Father God, and the peace and the prosperity. And, God, you have brought us all to this city of banning, Father. And, we're here because we care for this city. We love this city. And so, Lord, we just ask that your blessings will be over this city, God. Lord, that your peace will be in this room tonight, Father God, as we discuss these things about our city. And, Lord, I pray that you would just

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give us your wisdom, your guidance, and how we need to, what directions we need to go

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for this community. In the mighty name, we pray in Jesus' name, amen.

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Thank you

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Madam Clerk can you give a call roll please?

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Bearington, Flynn, Miller, Royce, Wallace.

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Madam Clerk, I apologize.

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We did not close session.

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As part of our agenda approval, I would like to move.

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We'll keep the agenda the same, but we're going to move close session report.

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We're going to resume close session after 9.1 on the agenda.

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So we'll go all the way through the consent items 9.1, right after 9.1, we'll go back in a closed session and we'll report after that and then continue with 9.2.

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Are there any objections to that?

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Okay, I'll make a motion to set the agenda as stated.

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Second, vote please,

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I need to re-vote.

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I need one more vote,

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thank you.

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right, 5-0, thank you.

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First item is a presentation.

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The Platinum Safety Award of Excellence 2025

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for the Revable Public Power Provider.

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I'm Fred Good.

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Good evening, Ms. Mayor, members of the City Council,

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Fred Landwea Electric Utility Director.

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Tonight I am proud to share with the City Council

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two national recognition awards

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that the Banning Electric Utility received

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from the American Public Power Association,

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a trade association that represents more than 2,000, not for profit community own electric utilities.

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The first award here is the 2025 Platinum Safety Award of Excellence.

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This recognizes banning electric's incident records compared to the number of worker hours,

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and the overall state of the safety programs and culture that we have over at banning electric.

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This award, we are one of 200 utilities nationwide to be recognized.

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The second award is the platinum designation for being a reliable public power provider,

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or RP3.

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We were graded in four main disciplines, reliability, safety, demonstrating workforce development,

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and improvements to our electric system.

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The EU is one of 37 public power utilities across the United States to receive this platinum designation, scoring a 96 out of 100 points in our award application.

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So this designation will be good for the next three years.

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Right now we have a few banning electric staff members if I can have them stand up and be recognized please.

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We are incredibly proud to earn these two awards tonight and behind me are some of the staff.

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We have 30 men and women who come to work every day to ensure that we provide reliable

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electric service to this community.

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It's nice and long overdue to see their hard work and be recognized on a national level.

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So thank you for the opportunity to share this with the City Council and I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have any

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Questions? First of all, I'd like to thank the union department for a fantastic job. I've always been very impressed with the service of our electric. I've been here for since 1999, 27 years. I think my powers been out maybe no more than two, four hours at a time. When it does go out, you guys are very on the ball with the line men. The provider, the service, I've got no complaints and I appreciate all

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hard work that you guys have been doing and that doesn't go on notice so thank you very much for that

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job well done and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

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Next we'll move on to public comments.

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Three-minute time limitation for any member of the public wishing to address the council on any

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items that are not currently on the agenda. If you wish to speak you may approach the mic and

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and state your name for the record, and we'll start with.

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Hi.

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Hello, I'm Dr. Carillo, I go by Sharon.

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I'm the Public Relations Manager for Toastmasters International District 12.

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District 12 serves the entire Inland Empire across three counties.

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We have 71 clubs, including a Speaker's Bureau.

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You might be familiar, Toastmasters is the number one community resource for

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public speaking and leadership development worldwide for over 100 years. We're so good at

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what we do, that Google, Toyota, S3, IEP, they look to us for help in developing their employees.

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Great news, banning. We have a Toastmasters Club here in banning now. It meets at Johnny Rousseau's

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And the club president in a moment will tell you more about an open house coming up April 20th.

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Toastmasters helps people with job interviews, promotions, just feeling confident in their goals.

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We help entrepreneurs who are trying to start a small business.

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In other words, Toastmasters plays a vital role in the economic vitality of the San

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Anger-Gonial pass, including and especially banning with our endless Opportunities Club, which meets at Johnny Rousseau's just a few blocks away.

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We are here to formally invite you to the open house.

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I have flies that I'm going to pass out because I have been in communication with your city clerk, but I wanted to put a face to the name.

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Again, Toast Masters is here to support banning.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good evening mayor council members and members of the community. My name is Minerva

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Covert and I am the president of endless opportunities toast masters here in the city of

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Banny. I also reside here in the city of Banny and toast masters has made a meaningful impact on my

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life and not only as a speaker but as a leader and a business owner. Communication is the

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heart of what I do and toast masters has helped me expand in my speaking abilities, how

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well I listen effectively and also helped me grow as a leader in confidence. As Shadon mentioned,

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Postmasters is a low cost, high impact leadership lab, and in our meetings, members practice

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giving presentations, thinking on their feet, conducting meetings, and giving constructive

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feedback.

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And all of these skills translate into entrepreneurship in the workplace and in the community.

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So you might be wondering can anyone really build this kind of confidence and leadership?

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And the answer is yes.

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Toastmasters, that's what it's all about.

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And that kind of growth doesn't happen by chance.

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It happens in a supportive environment where people show up

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Stay engaged and are encouraged every step of the way. So we really truly believe that

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Toastmasters is a valuable resource to the city of Banning. Because when people grow in communication

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and in confidence, that translates effectively in the workplace, in business, local businesses

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and in the community as a whole so here's my invitation to you do something your

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future self will thank you for come and join us this coming Monday for our

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open house April 20th here located in the city of batting at Johnny Rousseau's

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Italian kitchen we're gonna have a great time you'll get to see how we

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We conduct our meetings and you can network and meet our members and I ask that you

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come and see this for yourselves.

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We welcome you and we hope to see you there.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Anyone online?

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No.

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I don't see.

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We have one more, maybe two more here.

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Good evening, City Council.

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My name is Frank Burgess.

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I've came to Manning in 1956, and I'm still here except for two years now for Sam, but I'm here this evening to advise and give information to the City Council to let you all know that you represent the citizens of Manning, not the developers, and you must consider that, and all the rumors that's going around on a subject that's on the agenda.

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And I won't speak on it at this time, but it's saddens me to think that we're here this evening to add and add and add on to our community.

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And people don't want what you're about to vote on tonight, and I'm trying to keep from talking on the subject, but it's pretty dull gone hard.

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but please shut up. I'm sorry.

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I'm in the House of Bill Collector.

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Anyhow, my minutes are still running, but please understand each one of you have

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an obligation to the 30,000 people in the city of Banny, not to a developer that

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comes in and is going to make a big promise of this and promise that.

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That gentleman that's been here for 60 plus years, myself, has seen it come and go, promises, promises, promises, and we're still the same.

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So please, please, respect the citizens of Banning and not the developer.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Council.

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Mayor, my name is Aliyogi Vashuk and I am the president of Banning Chamber of Commerce.

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So sometimes we're all living in the ecosystem and most of the time compare the business environment as the ocean.

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There is a lot of fish in the ocean, there is big fish, there is small fish.

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If you look back at the businesses, there is big fish, big companies, and there are small companies.

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And sometimes people kind of try to disregard small fish, small businesses.

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Well, 99.9% of all businesses in United States is a small business, small fish.

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This small fish employs half of all private labor in United States.

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This small few small companies they keep money local.

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So let's say if you look at spending of big corporation on every dollar would be spent only 40 cents space local.

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So, at the same time, businesses go through the different stages and the economy sometimes goes

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Sometimes it goes down and in the difficult times who dies out first, big companies, unless

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you have about fair to survive, but you know they are very big and not very adjustable

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to sharp changes of economy.

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Look at small business, I mean you have nothing else to do, but just change your course and

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re-reliate whatever you do just to stay on the float.

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Difference between small and big businesses is also that most big businesses that concentrate somewhere in the cities.

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And small businesses that go to rural and small areas, small areas like us.

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Do you remember how we try to convince all these big companies come here and they don't want to come?

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But small businesses stay here and they thrive.

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So at the end, I would like to say that a family run, print shop, coffee shop or repair business can do more than sell the product.

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It hires local people, buys from nearby suppliers, pays local taxes and helps keep commercial area active, which can attract more customers from other businesses.

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So, a simple way to think small businesses are like hidden engine of our community.

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It doesn't look much, but it does a lot.

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And at the end, I would like to invite you to the Sunrise Breakfast, which will be tomorrow.

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And it starts at 7 a.m. at Junior Roosters. Thank you.

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Good afternoon, Council.

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So, my name is Sophia Tavado and I have been living here and planning for about three years now.

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I'm here to try and see and find out exactly what's going on with your billing from your electricity and the sewage.

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I have never seen anybody with a problem that they cannot correct it immediately.

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I don't know what kind of managers you have according to accounting and bookkeeping.

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the figures are so horrible, they're backtracking, and everybody is dealing with it, and I have seen in different areas where we're still going to be charged a certain amount of money for the for late charges when it's not our fault, it's you guys isn't the people that run it, okay, the person in charge should be, they should get rid of that person when a person is in a bind, you bring in a crew, you bring in your people and get the job done.

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and not just wait to see if that program didn't work for you.

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You know what, you jumped on it too fast and too soon.

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So now us people here in batting have to turn around and pay for that what's going on with your accounting department.

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So I would like to ask a couple of questions to you.

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How much longer is this going to take, Mayor?

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We cannot interrupt your public comment, ask your questions, we'll answer them afterwards, okay?

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Well, you will, okay, I'm sorry about that, but anyway, let's get it done.

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And you know, this is, I didn't even bring no paperwork with me because you know what?

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I spend my days, my weekends trying to figure out your paperwork.

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Okay, maybe it's not your fault but you guys need to get on it immediately.

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It's stressing me out, okay, and it's stressing everybody else out.

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Why could we just go ahead and build from where we were, they messed up, okay?

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And leave that on hold and continue building monthly by month.

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I have never seen any place or have never lived anywhere where you have two bills in one month, that it's not right.

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And if they use that program Excel, there's columns, there's columns, there's columns, and there's roles.

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There's your total for that, there's your total for that, and there's your total for that.

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Why can't they do that that way?

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We know where your previous is, to your current, not adding the whole thing, and it tells you that you're late.

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Anyway, I hope you take care of this issue soon.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, English Schuiler, resident of Banning.

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Yeah, I'm going to address an issue of the...

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The utility bills too, it didn't come up before, as far as I know, maybe I didn't pay attention. I looked at the most recent bill and I never checked before that we have these standard fees for each division on the bill. This is a monthly fee that is assessed to each resident or business or whatever in the rates are different according to the kind of

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of account we are we are having. And I noticed that the standard monthly fee for the electric

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was substantially larger than the year before. The same was true for the water and then for

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the wastewater since I'm on the sewage system. These are residential fees. The total actually

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was over a $100 a month for residences. And the increase over last year is approximately 30%.

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I was astounded to see those relationships because I was aware of the 20% increase in the rate.

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But I must have missed when this was voted in to have all the monthly standard fees raised and for a substantial percentage.

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Our population is not wealthy in town.

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In fact, we are a disadvantaged city.

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How can somebody who gets between $912 a month on social security absorb these cost increases?

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I think we need to think about it and maybe examine that part of our utility review as well.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Council Mayor.

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I'd like to discuss an item for your procedures manual, but if I could wait till 9.2 when you guys discuss it because it's not on the agenda on that particular item, but you're discussing those things at that time if I could the procedures manual 10.3 or 10.9 if that's OK

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Harry Sullivan.

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Since it was brought up a couple of issues about the utilities, I just thought, and this is just information item.

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Anyways, so I took and I added up my total costs for my utilities city banning less waste management from 2022, up to 2025, the total for the years.

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And I know that some of the justification for rate increases were, we weren't increasing the rates when they should have been increased prior to this last increase and all that.

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So anyways, so I had a, I looked at mine and I understand that's just me personally, but nothing really changes around my house

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as far as the way I operate and things to do, you know, they could have a plus or minus 5% something like that.

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But anyways, from year 22 to 25, my rate increase

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went up 54.5% in those four years.

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So the idea that somehow we haven't been staying up with, you know, the increases and stuff like that just kind of doesn't make sense at least in my case.

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I don't know about anybody else, but at least in my case, I'm paying in 2025.

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I paid 54.5% more than I did in 2022.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor, City Council and people of Banning.

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A couple of council sessions ago, we mentioned diesel fumes, and...

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You don't see them much anymore because they look cleaner, but they do contain things that are not good. Like carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous dioxide, sulfur dioxide, other chemicals, and little particles. The volume of these gases take up space in the lungs that should be used by oxygen. And so that's not good. Well, they can probably breathe that out.

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with the particles get in your lungs and stay there, and so these diesel fumes are not benign, they are toxic.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone online?

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No, anyone online.

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Thank you.

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We'll close public comment.

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Any city council or committee reports?

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So, Thursday I went to transportation committee meeting for SCAG.

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We had a joint meeting and our transportation, our transportation we have been talking about

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our overview of the games and how transportation is going to be into L.A. They're trying

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to do a mental rail coming out to Samaritano to bring people into L.A. for the games.

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The overview of those, they have been coordinating with different jurisdictions across the counties, Riverside County, Orange County, L.A. County, to get people into these games in 2028.

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So basically that's what we talked about the transportation part.

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For the joint commission, they were looking at the economic building.

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They're going to be building a lot of structure in LA.

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So when people come out, because there'll be people from all over coming out and they want

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to make it nice and so people can enjoy themselves when they get to the games.

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Also, last night I had my division meeting and it was just too many, but if you look

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on the website for the state, the government, it's a lot of A, B's and S, B's, it's out

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there.

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Colleagues of City some on day opposed and some on day support, but it's a lot of bills,

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lots of them.

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So I informed you to look on there because I'm not going to tell you, you're so

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many.

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I had to write a while down, but it's a lot of bills that's coming through to the

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channel.

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That's all I have to report.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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I attended on 327, the WR COG Special Closed Session, which was an all day from 9 to 4 p.m.

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And it was a special closed session, and we were given a by legal and the WRCOG chair

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branded dense debt, a conclusion that we could say in public.

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So at the conclusion of the special executive committee meeting, the committee took action

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in close session to dismiss Dr. Kurt Wilson as executive director of W.R. Cogg.

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The action was effective immediately, and per law the dismissal was reported out at

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the conclusion of the meeting.

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Okay, also on 3.30 we had a ad hoc animal shelter meeting with Cindy and myself, City Manager

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Chief of VIA and two of the Code Enforcement Officers and I'll defer that to City Manager

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to explain what was discussed there.

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On 4126, I had a meeting at Sun Lakes where my district 3 is.

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As an introduction to City Manager Gibbs to some of the HOA members there who talked about

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some of their concerns and the issues that they're facing and it was a very productive meeting.

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on 4, 6, 27, I had a W.R. Cog meeting and

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And afterwards, I spoke with Chris Gray, who I asked him about the Sunday's extension, and where that is at, because there was some question on whether we were still going to get funds from WRCog. Because there's so many in the past area, there's so many different projects, high dollar projects, Beaumont, Calamesa, us, that they don't have as much money as they thought they would. And so they had to reallocate it.

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And basically the allocations that they've agreed to are for the total in the past zone funding is $53.4 million.

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And out of that, the city of banning will get $24.8 million.

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And that will be for the Highland Springs interchange and the Sunlake's Boulevard extension.

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The city of Beaumont will get 13.5 million, and that will be for the SR60 Petrero interchange, and Kalamace will get 14.9 million for the Singleton interchange, Cherry Valley Boulevard interchange, and the county line interchange.

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So that was good because we felt that banning, because of our two projects, one, especially Sunday extension is a safety issue.

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And we felt that both, and then also the Highland Springs, which we actually gave 6 million back to Bulmont, so they could do their portrayal.

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So we felt we should be on priority, which they did, they gave us the largest amount of the money.

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Also last night, I went to the League of California Cities Riverside Division meeting out in La Quinta.

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I went because there was a gentleman from the State Board of Equalization, Antonio Vazquez,

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who was going to speak on Proposition 19.

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And I don't know a lot of people know what Proposition 19 is, but it was voted in 2020.

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It supersedes Proposition 50 and undermines Proposition 13.

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And just two things I would like to point out.

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And if you're in a 55 and older community and you pass your property onto your child,

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it used to be that they could just take over the tax base.

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And now they must live in it as their primary residents for at least the first year.

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However, for example, in Sun Lakes, we have age restrictions, 55 and older, my oldest is 40.

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He won't be 55 for 15 years, so if I were to try to pass my property on to my child, they can't live there.

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They would be forced to sell it, or absorb the higher property tax, which in my case would triple.

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So the other thing is if a lot of people don't know but if you were to want to rent your property as soon as you go to rent it, it is reassessed the full amount so you cannot rent it.

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There is movement to try to repeal this or at least modify it.

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It has continually failed to be put on the ballot, but hopefully like last night he said maybe the Senate will have to take it up, but that may not happen.

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It was supposed to generate $50 million in five years for fire protection, that was one of the reasons why it was sold.

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The gentleman spoke last night said there is zero in the fund in five years, zero.

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So where that money's gone, I do not know, but something that a lot of people aren't aware of, they don't even know what process of 19 is, so I just kind of wanted to give you some information on that.

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I think that's all I have right now, thank you.

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Thank you.

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also attended the animal control meeting, the two by two on March 30th, and I feel like we're making for progress.

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Yes, for people who think that we're not doing anything or still working behind the scenes

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to bring back our animal shelter.

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So I feel good that we're moving forward.

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And I thank our new city manager for keeping the ball rolling on that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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On 3.26, I also attended League of Cities meeting down on Costa Mesa. I'm on Tax and Revenue Committee. And like Councilwoman Walla said, there's about over 120 AB bills out there that I'm being proposed. And Councilwoman Flynn hit on one.

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Proposition 19 is a big one, people were fooled by it, it's a lot of underwriting to it

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that was brought out last night that I was not aware of, that took me by surprise.

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Also on 327 and 28th, I was in Fresno at the Wells Conference, Water Conference, and they

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They had a tour of the dam up there and something I realized now that I wasn't aware of, a lot of the regulations that's coming down for water are based from what's going on in central in northern California with the farmlands and stuff.

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So that's why you can make a bill for a half the state when you make a bill is for the whole state.

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So some of the things that we see is being caused by the stuff that's going on up north in the central California that really is not affecting our water down here in Southern California.

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So I just wanted to make that known.

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Also on 4-1, I had an RTA budget and finance meeting and we're purchasing six buses.

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But now we're second guessing ourselves, we're not really second guessing ourselves.

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We're thinking about, are we going to have the interstructure to support electric buses now?

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So that's the big conversation we're having in trying to see what regulations are coming down.

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Our new regulations are which ones are going to go away, we're not sure.

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So we're just taking a deep dive look into that.

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And then on 4-2, I had the T-NOW Committee meeting in Beaumont.

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And that meeting, people don't know what T-NOW meeting is.

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It's on Beaumont Transit, Batting Transit, RTA, Sunline.

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We all get the other and discuss riderships, what programs we have going on in each city.

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So it's a great meeting because you have a council person there from each city.

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plus usually the director of that agency and probably a driver are a manager there.

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So it's great conversation because you get a good look from operations from all sides of it.

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Also attended last night, the legal cities division meeting, which the proposition 19 was discussed as Councilwoman,

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Councilwoman, I'm Flint, as mentioned already, and that's it.

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Thank you.

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I attended a two by two committee meeting with the Councilmember Miller on the night to discuss economic development in the city to strategize a plan.

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Also, we're putting together a game plan for upcoming trip in next May with the International Conference of Shopping Centers to bring some development back into our city.

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So that's all I have.

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Next up is the Treasures Report.

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No, I have announcements.

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I'm sorry, one more time, I'm just something.

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Any announcements from council members?

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Yeah, I have.

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So I got an email today from Mr. Siva on April 18th,

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downtown, Bannon's going to be an art walk.

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It'd be one to 4 p.m. Saturday, April 18th.

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Enjoy music and art and make art time travel history tour.

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corner Ramsey Street and San Antonio Avenue, that's where they'll be.

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And also the Baton Women's Club, they'll be having their fashion show,

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which will be June the 20th at the Baton Women's Club.

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So I'll let you know we're starting to sell tickets stuff.

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So if you want to buy tickets, I'm a member.

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You can just ask me and I'll get a ticket for you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, I wasn't sure where to put this but I wanted to bring this up.

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This was in the press enterprise and we grapple with the jail here outside of banning and

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all the inmates in the mental health and drug addiction problems.

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So the sheriff of San Bernardino has a new program that he has introduced and

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I think it's something that we should look at also.

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I'll just read some of the parts.

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This year, it's Mr. Discus is the sheriff there. And in Southern California, county jails have become the largest mental health care providers in the region, with estimates that half or more of the facilities consist of inmates struggling with mental illness or drug addiction or both. And they have a program that they're basing after a Nashville Tennessee program that's been very successful. It's going to be at the Glen

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Unhell and Rehabilitation Center, which will connect inmates afflicted with mental health and substance use disorders to essential services and housing after they are released from the prison.

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The program will serve up to 90 inmates who will be moved into housing units at the jail that are being retrofitted with cubicle style bed space and apartment style space.

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And they will be working as they'll have a Department of Behavioral Health to that will assess each of the inmates on their level of severity.

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And then those selected will be put in the program and they'll work with mental health specialists or a case worker within 90 days of their release.

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and together, they'll develop a treatment plan and connect participants with community organizations offering housing, education, job skills, and vocational training.

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So once emitted into the program, this is in Tennessee, the average stay was about three weeks, and after they, if they successfully completed the program, their criminal charges are expunged.

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The recidivism rate in Tennessee before this program was about 90% and now it is 20%.

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So this is a great program.

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I think we, I know you're on the ad hoc committee, both of you, for liaison with the jail.

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And I think this would be something we need to look into.

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and because of our jail here and so I would like to announce that. I don't know where to put it but I thought it was important to talk about and maybe the city manager can connect with that.

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Thank you. I'll put down.

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I have nothing.

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No, okay.

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Treasurer's report.

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Good evening.

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Mayor, council members, citizens here tonight, and those watching at home.

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Tonight it is both my honor and my legal duty to present the March 2026 City Treasurer's

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report.

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Coffee said this report had been provided to the City Clerk to include in the official

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record and for each City Council member to receive a copy.

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However, I want to note briefly, but clearly, there are no extra copies available to the public this evening on the table, as the treasure continues to be denied access to basic printing resources.

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Going forward, I respectfully request the Treasure's report is an agenda item, not simply a report, so it allows for discussion, transparency, and public access, because transparency is not a formality.

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is the foundation of public trust.

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Tonight's focus centers on three simple but critical questions.

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One, did March bring more income than expenses?

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Number two, do we have more or less cash than one year ago?

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And three, are we maximizing interest on the public's money?

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Item number one, income versus expenses.

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Let's begin with the first question.

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Did Vanning bring in more than it spent in March?

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We all know if you have more than you spent, you're in good shape.

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So the total income was $11.8 million, total expenses were $8.4 million.

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The result, yes, Vanning brought in $3.4 million more than it spent in March.

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March was a positive month, but one good month leads to a larger question.

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Are we building momentum or are we just having moments?

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Item two, cash position, which is the bigger picture.

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Now, the question I often hear is people say to me, is banning broke?

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People don't ask casually.

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They ask with concern and sometimes they ask expecting me to agree.

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So let's answer their question with facts.

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as of March 31st.

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First, which was just 14 days two weeks ago, total cash and investments are $50.9 million. Total

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restricted cash is $11.5 million. Total cash overall is $62.4 million highlighted in green

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on the comparison page. Let me repeat that. Banking has $62.4 million in the bank. So I

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I ask you, the 62.4 million in the bank sound like a city that is going broke, but numbers require context.

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So let's compare it to one year ago.

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Our total cash is down approximately 2.4 million.

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Unrestricted cash is down approximately 756,000.

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Restricted and bond related funds are also declining.

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So while we are not broke, we are trending downward, and trends matter because finances

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just like gravity do not change on their own.

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Important limitations.

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So it must be stated that treasure does not have online access to several key accounts

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including Bank of America, Lafe, Perma, RPU, and SCPPA.

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So some figures presented are based on the most recent available statements, not March data,

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which leads to a simple question, how can full accountability exist without full access?

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The debt context, as of April 1st, two weeks ago, the total bond debt was 58.8 million.

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So, again, let's frame this clearly, tonight's report shows $62 million in cash and $58.8 million in debt.

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We currently have more cash than debt.

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Again, I ask, is banning broke or is banning a city that must manage its resources more strategically?

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Seventy indicators March payroll increased 4.4% year over year rising to 1.3 million in March. Employee credit cards spending total 25,000 in March.

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These are not negative indicators, but they reinforce an important point. Our financial decisions must align with our financial direction.

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Item number three, earning more interest as an opportunity.

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I believe City Council is looking at ways to earn more money, so let's turn to our

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opportunity, because stewardship is not just what we spend, it's about what we earn.

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Currently significant funds are sitting in non-earning accounts, using current TBL rates

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which are the safest one month investments, banning could generate approximately $28,000 in interest per month,

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which is over $337,000 annually.

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That's not theoretical.

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That is achievable with coordination and action that raises a critical question.

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Should public money sit idle or should it work for the public?

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So let's look ahead for six months looking forward from able to September which is the next six months approximately 10.3 million will be needed for bond obligations.

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Revenues may decrease with billing changes, accurate forecasting requires cooperation.

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To better know where we stand financially I respectfully request the finance department provides to me the treasure by the first of each month.

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six months of projected expenses and six months of projected income.

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00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:16,900
Why? Because financial stability is not achieved by reacting, it's achieved by preparing.

415
00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:24,040
In closing, financial reports are not just numbers, they are signals, they are warnings,

416
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:31,900
They are opportunities. They tell us not just where we are, but where we are headed.

417
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:40,320
Banning is not broke, but the direction of our finances and the decisions we make next

418
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,960
will determine whether we stay strong or slowly weakened.

419
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:52,300
The question is not whether we have the data. The question is whether we act on it.

420
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,960
Thank you. My name is Sue Savage. I am Vanning City Treasurer. Appreciate your time. Thank you.

421
00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:30,780
Next will be the city management report, and I'm sure she's on the ball on this. I don't want to put her on the spot, but maybe during your report, you can touch on the public comment utility billing complaints, the two bills per month, late fees, maybe go over the usage and payment history reports. The monthly fee that was brought up, the increase of 54.5% between 2022 and 2025.

422
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:37,400
five and any and such you can offer on the traders report as well with respect to monthly

423
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,820
on how spending works. I know in my house, if you do a month, the month

424
00:50:42,820 --> 00:50:46,640
you're going to be very confused because I pay my property tax and that's a big month.

425
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:50,740
It doesn't occur every month. It takes time to catch it up. So, it's all yours.

426
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Thank you, Mayor. I would like to start with what is on the agenda.

427
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,380
Let me just pull it up here real quick.

428
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:06,860
So the first item under my report on the agenda is the introduction to chief Robert Fish.

429
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,120
He is our new fire chief.

430
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:13,800
He took over in December for retired fire chief, the wiser.

431
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:18,940
However, Chief's fish could not be here tonight, so we will add him to the next agenda.

432
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,980
We really welcome him to the Riverside County and he's been here a long time but

433
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:28,180
but I'm excited to see what he does as our new fire chief.

434
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,560
The utility billing update you touched on that.

435
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:35,880
I'm gonna give a brief report and answer some of the questions.

436
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:41,340
And then I'm gonna ask Art to talk about the monthly fee that's included on the billing.

437
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,980
So as of April, the city is caught up with the billing.

438
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,200
There is one bill per month now.

439
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:52,560
Approximately 120 customers have taken advantage of the cap,

440
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,500
Not Riverside Financial Assistance Plan.

441
00:51:55,780 --> 00:52:03,000
That happens here monthly in the chambers, and residents are encouraged to come and bring their financial information.

442
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:05,300
It's completely separate from the city.

443
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:09,380
The city does not provide staffing for that.

444
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:15,900
It is strictly through Riverside, and there is sometimes credits to utility bills.

445
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,820
I know one person had a $400 credit to their utility bills, so it really does help.

446
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:30,280
Customers can now go online to set up a payment plan from now and through the end of May.

447
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,400
They can start the process online, and then staff evaluates it based on any outstanding

448
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:42,660
balances, and then the customer comes in and finalizes the paperwork, and it's added

449
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:43,460
to their account.

450
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:53,340
So on that note, the payment plans, we've entered into agreements with approximately 50 customers.

451
00:52:53,540 --> 00:52:54,480
We're hoping for more.

452
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,020
It is something that City Council adopted.

453
00:52:57,220 --> 00:53:01,700
There's an option between a six-month payment plan or a 12-month payment plan.

454
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:06,400
And it helps those that are behind that can't get caught up by May.

455
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,120
They can stretch out their payments.

456
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:24,060
After May, Council has directed staff that normal penalties will resume for non-payments and just to let Council know there's about 6,500 delinquent accounts still.

457
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:28,760
So we are looking at other ways to push that information out to the public.

458
00:53:29,180 --> 00:53:36,820
Staff came up with an idea to send out notices, not on the utility bills, but with the utility bills.

459
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:43,740
or in sort to the delinquent customers as a notice that hey, we have this option, come

460
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:45,120
talk to us, let us help you.

461
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,620
I'm going to turn it over to Art to talk about the monthly fee.

462
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:50,860
Yeah, thank you for that.

463
00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:56,380
So during the process of developing rates, there are a couple things that are looked at.

464
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,700
One is, and one of the first things that we do is we identify the utilities revenue needs.

465
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,080
So whether it's the wastewater department, the water department, or electric, we have to

466
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,600
to identify what the revenue needs.

467
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,660
The next step is to determine, you know, how to generate those revenues?

468
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:19,740
Are they going to be solely based on the amount of electricity used or water used?

469
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:27,760
And that is looked at, but there's also a fee component based on a fixed base fee that

470
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,980
you are charged, whether or not you use electricity or water.

471
00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:37,140
And that is based on the type of service for electric and type of or size of meter for water.

472
00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:43,080
And so, City Council in the past has approved a five years worth of water and waste water rate increases.

473
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,020
So, Missouler is correct, the base fee has increased over time.

474
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:49,520
Same thing for electric.

475
00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:55,460
Recently, City Council recently approved, it costs a service analysis for the electric utility.

476
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:59,700
And again, those base fees are going to increase.

477
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:16,060
Actually, they have increased once. I believe for the residential base fee that is not going to change over time. It's the usage, the usage rates that are going to change over time. But long story short, yes, those base fees are increasing and have increased over the last couple of years.

478
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:31,910
I would also like to, I'll come back to the last item, which is the MOU between the city of Banning and Rivgo regarding inmate drop off procedures. At this time, I would like to congratulate Councilmember Miller.

479
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:38,630
He was recognized this morning at Riverside County Board of Supervisors meeting as the fifth district

480
00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:42,370
Volunteer of the year so congratulations council member Miller

481
00:55:47,620 --> 00:55:48,220
the

482
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:53,480
Councilmember flin and mayor pro tem barrington mentioned the animal control subcommittee

483
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,420
So in that subcommittee when we met we have the first half of the study that was

484
00:55:58,420 --> 00:56:00,280
procured back in January

485
00:56:00,820 --> 00:56:05,840
Under art's direction we do have the feasibility study in hand that was shared with the two

486
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,260
Council members, we are awaiting a final draft of the facility condition assessment.

487
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:17,160
I believe Art had received it, had some comments for the consultant and sent it back.

488
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:22,600
Once we have that in hand, we will call another subcommittee meeting and we will then take

489
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:28,860
that full item to the full council so that the public can hear the condition assessment

490
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:34,780
of the property that we own as well as a feasibility of actually having an animal control center

491
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:39,560
there. So we're looking forward to that. That should be, I believe, around the first

492
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,540
meeting in May.

493
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,220
The next strategic plan, update 4, Council and the public. Just a reminder, we'll be

494
00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:55,340
on April 28th. Those are every 30 days. I focus on initiative 4A, the workout plan to

495
00:56:55,340 --> 00:57:00,620
sustainability. And that workshop, just as a reminder, and I again encourage the public

496
00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:07,160
to attend May 14th. There will be a Special City Council workshop to discuss the workout plan

497
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:13,320
as it relates to the city's finances, the budget, and the structural deficit that I reported

498
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:22,480
that we have on March 24th. For anybody interested that did miss that update, the video is on the City

499
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:30,260
Council page. I encourage the residents to watch that before the May 14th meeting. There's a bulky item

500
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:36,220
pick up this Saturday, April 18th, from 8 to 1 at Dysard Park.

501
00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:42,280
And then one last thing on animal control, I was notified tonight, the city of Beaumont,

502
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,700
the city of Kalamasa and the city of Ukaiba.

503
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,320
City managers would like to get together with me to talk about animal control and

504
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,800
some of the things that have taken place since the last elected subcommittee meeting.

505
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,480
And so I will be responding to that email and that will take place the week of May 4th.

506
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:10,160
To respond to the city treasurer's report, first and foremost, there were copies of the city treasurer's report placed on the back table.

507
00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:13,600
It's my understanding that there were changes made to that report.

508
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,300
And so those reports on the back table were obsolete.

509
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:19,840
We are happy to make copies for the public.

510
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,980
First and foremost, transparency is paramount.

511
00:58:23,980 --> 00:58:31,460
And so any information that the city treasure would like us to copy for the public, we will certainly do that as to the

512
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:32,600
62

513
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:39,860
And some change million in the bank. She is correct. However, governmental fund accounting

514
00:58:40,460 --> 00:58:48,020
Dictates that that is a cash pool and we have several restricted funds and so to look at the cash pool as

515
00:58:48,020 --> 00:58:51,720
That's how much money we have in the bank and that's how much money we can spend

516
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,040
And it's not accurate, governmental accounting.

517
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Our general fund is what's structurally deficit and the general fund is our main operations

518
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:09,840
like our police department, community development, city managers office, finance department, all

519
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,800
of those things that run our general operations comes out of the general fund.

520
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:19,640
The restricted funds cannot subsidize the general fund without appropriate documents and

521
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:25,400
We don't have those, so the bank statements certainly show that there's money in the bank.

522
00:59:25,780 --> 00:59:31,560
However, that money is really for cash flow and not programmed into the general fund,

523
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,360
which is what I reported on May 24th.

524
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:43,120
Again, there will be another update on April 28th and then our big workshop will be May 14th.

525
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:49,310
Okay, let me get to the final item on my list.

526
00:59:49,310 --> 00:59:59,810
Councilmember Flynn requested an update on the MOU between the city of banning and RIVCO regarding inmate drop-off procedures, the chief.

527
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,420
Deputy of Riverside Sheriff's Office, which his name is Chief Deputy Kohler. He and I had a meeting with our police chief present to discuss that particular MOU, and it was determined at the end of the meeting that that MOU does not exist. It was a gentleman's handshake between the City of Beaumont, the City of Banning and RSO. I've had staff look high and low.

528
01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:33,200
and he has looked and it just does not exist.

529
01:00:33,460 --> 01:00:42,080
So there is no formal MOU whereby RSO has been given permission to drop released inmates off in our city.

530
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:49,100
Now with that, that begs the question, how do we coordinate this?

531
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:50,280
How do we prevent that?

532
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,460
And so he and I have agreed to look at various options.

533
01:00:53,460 --> 01:01:12,320
One of the things that Deputy, Chief Deputy Kohler did agree to, he has an uber lift program that he utilizes when inmates are being released outside of bus hours and so the county does pay it's about an average of $70 a ride.

534
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:19,680
He has agreed to expand that program even when the buses are running to get the released

535
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:24,240
inmates where they need to go outside of the pass area.

536
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:27,780
And so he is looking at increasing that program.

537
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,100
There's certainly more conversations that need to be had.

538
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,260
And he and I have agreed to keep meeting to resolve this issue.

539
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:41,520
I have asked the transit department to look at boardings and alightings at that stop.

540
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:49,300
For those of you that are familiar with the Albertsons stop, there are two bus stops, one for banning and one for RTA.

541
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,400
And the inmates are being placed on the RTA bus using RTA vouchers.

542
01:01:55,940 --> 01:02:05,100
And so I've asked Transit to give me some stats on actually how many passengers are using the banning bus.

543
01:02:05,540 --> 01:02:10,320
And then I'll go to RTA and ask them about the number of vouchers that they're picking up.

544
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,020
It's definitely a conversation that we need to have with Beaumont.

545
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,820
Beaumont has the transit hub for the entire pass area.

546
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:23,580
And in my opinion, having run that transit department for many years, if you go to the

547
01:02:23,580 --> 01:02:26,540
Wal-Mart hub, you can get anywhere in Southern California.

548
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:34,660
The RTA stop in banning will only take you to Marina Valley, or Hemantons and Jack.

549
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:40,120
And so I think there's more transportation options if we look at this collectively and

550
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,880
we partner with our neighboring city and RSO to figure this out.

551
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:45,380
So that's my report.

552
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,480
There is no MOU.

553
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:53,300
There was never an MOU, and it was a gentleman's handshake back in 2010.

554
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:53,880
I'm guessing.

555
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:56,400
That concludes my report.

556
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,400
Thank you.

557
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:06,760
Consent items.

558
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:07,980
I'm sorry.

559
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:08,980
City attorney.

560
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,120
I'm sorry, go ahead.

561
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:12,320
To the city manager.

562
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,620
So I, you know, when we talking about the ledger bills,

563
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:24,700
I know we did about the payment plan, but people are having hard times paying the money and

564
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,360
paying, you know, to do that.

565
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:32,640
So is there a way we might, as us as a board could change that, because the people are

566
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,400
having a hard time.

567
01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:37,980
They bill might be a thousand to tell them to give them 300 and they can't do it, you know

568
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:38,320
what I mean?

569
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:45,180
Yeah, that would be a policy decision of City Council and we're happy to roll out whatever

570
01:03:45,180 --> 01:03:46,340
council directs.

571
01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:59,350
Anybody else? Do you want direction?

572
01:04:02,290 --> 01:04:06,250
I believe that's what council member Wallace is asking correct.

573
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:14,190
Okay well if someone owes a thousand then they can sign up for six months or a year and at six months

574
01:04:14,190 --> 01:04:23,290
they only need to put 10% down which is a hundred and at 12 months they need to put 15% down which

575
01:04:23,290 --> 01:04:27,110
should be 150 as a down payment.

576
01:04:27,550 --> 01:04:32,950
So it's not 300 or 500 or they shouldn't be asking for that much.

577
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:34,270
If they are, that's a problem.

578
01:04:34,490 --> 01:04:35,210
It's $5.10, right?

579
01:04:35,890 --> 01:04:37,670
It's $5.10, okay.

580
01:04:37,810 --> 01:04:43,970
So $50, if it's $1,000, then it's going to be $50.

581
01:04:44,110 --> 01:04:52,170
And if it's 12 months, it's going to be $75.

582
01:04:52,170 --> 01:04:59,890
dollars. So I don't think that that is burdensome since we're talking about bills that were

583
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:25,440
We are not paid for six months, that the electricity was used, and we have been, I believe, very, very generous on our repayment plans. So I would not like to revisit it. But I was in there when somebody's bill was 1,000, 1,200, and they asked for a $300 deposit. This was just last week.

584
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,100
Well, then that needs to be corrected.

585
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:33,360
And there's still a lot of confusion on how we got here, right?

586
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,560
And I'll defer to art because you've been kind of at the forefront on this.

587
01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:41,700
Once we got the building back online and the two bills per month.

588
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,340
There's a lot of confusion online still to this day.

589
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:51,400
I know we've talked about this at Nazim, but there's a lot of people who didn't get the information.

590
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:56,200
And a lot of confusion when they got two bills a month that they're being double-built, which is not the case.

591
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,120
There's been confusion on how to read their own meters, and we've tried to address that.

592
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,360
It's very scary to see on the bill pass due.

593
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:13,520
If you don't pay this now, you're going to be subject to late fees and termination fees, which we've all said that's not going to happen until we get caught up.

594
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:25,040
So, maybe you can kind of go over some of that and people don't understand, they sell a problem with the $1,000 bill.

595
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,540
They didn't get the $1,000 bill this month.

596
01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:30,300
That's been a cumulative over several months.

597
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:33,820
And it's still just very, very confusing.

598
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,160
Before we have our answer, I just want to make sure work.

599
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,240
For clarification, the deposit has confused customers.

600
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,580
The deposit is not really a deposit.

601
01:06:47,580 --> 01:06:49,120
It isn't advanced.

602
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:59,980
So if you owe $1,000 and you set up a six month payment plan, that 5% goes towards your bill.

603
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:07,640
It is not a deposit that the city's holding, some utility companies want to deposit if the customers

604
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,980
knew and they don't have an established account.

605
01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:17,760
So it does go towards the bill, the 5%, and the 10% does go towards the bill.

606
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,460
So that's important to note I know we've been saying deposit I think because in our heads

607
01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:28,540
It's a it's a down payment on a payment plan and several but some confuse that as a fee, which is also not a fee

608
01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:32,800
No, it does it's a it's a it's a it's a good faith effort

609
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,420
In my opinion that the payment plan will be honored

610
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:46,820
Yeah, and just to touch a little bit on on the history here so and specifically on the confusion with the double billing

611
01:07:46,820 --> 01:07:51,900
So just to remind everybody there was a six-month period when the city did not

612
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:57,880
bill. There was no bills that went out. And so when we resume billing in April of

613
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:04,860
25, we knew that if we continued with just one month of billing per month, we would never catch up.

614
01:08:04,860 --> 01:08:08,960
We'd always be six months behind. And so we got to the point where we were

615
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,860
issuing two bills per month. So, for example, in one month you would get your,

616
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:16,200
or let's say January February bill,

617
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,200
and then you would get your March April bill

618
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,200
the following month.

619
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,140
And so it's not that you would be double billed,

620
01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:25,180
we were just billing two months

621
01:08:25,180 --> 01:08:28,500
for the consumption per month in order to catch up.

622
01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:30,260
And so we are now caught up.

623
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,000
You are correct, there's a lot of confusion

624
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,320
with the difference between amount and due,

625
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:37,800
and the due now amount.

626
01:08:37,940 --> 01:08:41,220
The due now amount is what you owe for the previous month

627
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:51,260
for consumption and then the amount due is basically the total delinquency if you are delinquent, the total amount due.

628
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,740
So if somebody says, and we've heard this a lot at the counter, I got a $1,000 bill for last month.

629
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,600
It's not in $1,000 bill for last month, it's your carryover delinquency amount.

630
01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:08,300
For that previous month, it could have been a $200 bill and so there is confusion there.

631
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:12,840
Well, we are working on for folks that are signing up for a payment plan.

632
01:09:13,060 --> 01:09:18,860
There will be a box that shows how much you owe related to that payment plan.

633
01:09:18,860 --> 01:09:22,820
How much you've agreed to pay if whether you're on a six month plan or a 12 month plan.

634
01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:27,960
And you have to, for those that have a payment plan, you'll have to pay the amount owed

635
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:33,380
as agreed upon for that payment plan plus that previous month's consumption.

636
01:09:33,380 --> 01:09:41,460
So it is difficult for some folks, but that is a way that the folks are going to be caught up at some point.

637
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:49,580
Again, it's their decision, it's our customer's decision whether they want to apply for a six month plan or a 12 month plan.

638
01:09:49,900 --> 01:09:52,480
A lot of people had a problem with the record saliation, right?

639
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,600
We were getting two bills a month, they paid a bill, but it wasn't showing up because it takes time to process.

640
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,960
So I know that the front-

641
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:28,600
Personnel, we're able to do a payment and usage report, kind of an Excel spreadsheet, to show this is what you're consumed and this is what you paid and these were how they're applied. So if people have some confusion on that, they can also look at that to help. Can I just ask a clarifying question? Councilmember Wallace, are you concerned that people are not going to be able to pay the payment plan and their regular bill?

642
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,540
Is that the concern? Okay. I just wanted to make sure I understood that.

643
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:39,170
Anybody else?

644
01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:42,400
Okay.

645
01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:46,790
City Attorney's Report.

646
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:57,260
Thank you, Mayor. The City Attorney's Report is based upon the City Council manual procedural

647
01:10:57,260 --> 01:11:05,920
guidelines and specifically Article 9 regarding decorum and order and the report is as follows.

648
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:11,260
The presiding officer shall determine all points of order subject to the right of any member

649
01:11:11,260 --> 01:11:13,720
to appeal to the majority of the legislative body.

650
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:17,060
The legislative body member once recognized

651
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:19,040
shall not be interrupted while speaking,

652
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,460
unless called ordered by the presiding officer,

653
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:23,540
unless a point of order is raised

654
01:11:23,540 --> 01:11:25,380
by another legislative body member,

655
01:11:25,700 --> 01:11:28,020
or unless if his speaker chooses to yield

656
01:11:28,020 --> 01:11:29,900
to questions from another member.

657
01:11:31,380 --> 01:11:35,100
Members shall accord the utmost courtesy to each other,

658
01:11:35,820 --> 01:11:37,900
to city or legislative body employees,

659
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:40,760
and to the public appearing before the body.

660
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,360
Now shall we refrain at all times from rude

661
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,920
and derogatory remarks.

662
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:49,220
Reflections as to integrity, abusive comments,

663
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,340
and statements as to motives and personalities

664
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:55,920
which disrupt, disturb or otherwise impede

665
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,720
the orderly conduct of the body's meeting.

666
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,000
The members of the body shall always be attentive

667
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,640
and show respect to those addressing the body,

668
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,260
provided that nothing shall prevent

669
01:12:06,260 --> 01:12:09,200
enforcement, the enforcement of rules of decorum.

670
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,780
Members of the public attending the body meeting shall observe the same rules of order

671
01:12:14,780 --> 01:12:16,860
and decorum applicable to the body.

672
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:23,120
All remarks and questions should be addressed to the presiding officer who is the mayor and

673
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,360
not to any individual body member, staff member, or other person.

674
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,280
That concludes the City Attorney's report, Mayor.

675
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,260
Thank you,

676
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:48,040
right consent items item 6.1 through 6.7 had been recommended for approval and will be acted upon simultaneously unless the council member chooses to have an item pulled for separate consideration, are there any such consideration at this time?

677
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:53,000
Yeah, I would like to pull 6.3, 6.4 and 6.5.

678
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:59,450
Any others?

679
01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:08,550
Okay, hearing none, we'll

680
01:13:11,140 --> 01:13:15,280
open up public comment for items 6.1, 6.2,

681
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:23,980
6.6 and 6.7 anyone wishing to make a public comment on those I'm inviting up for public comment

682
01:13:23,980 --> 01:13:26,440
you'll have five minutes to speak on that item only

683
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:30,920
anyone online I

684
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:35,310
do have them run really online

685
01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:38,210
go ahead

686
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:47,740
yes thank you council one of the benefits of holding multiple readings of a council

687
01:13:47,740 --> 01:13:53,920
vote on a project is that it allows for refinements that always enhance a community and make the project

688
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:59,760
better with each iteration. I would like to counsel to eliminate the industrial footprint of this

689
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:06,180
project as it's incompatible with the surrounding land uses. Absent that, I'm calling attention to

690
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:13,480
the City Council's first reading on March 10th, which added attachment 11 and this is a mouthful. 7.3

691
01:14:14,420 --> 01:14:21,900
J2 Clean DA with Exhibit G-1 Modified Project Conceptual Site Plan.

692
01:14:22,660 --> 01:14:36,380
Now, under this Revi site plan, industrial buildings totaling 256,753 square feet on 75.8 acres over planning areas 278 are removed.

693
01:14:36,380 --> 01:14:43,160
It just real land uses color-coded purple and land use descriptions are also

694
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:49,080
removed. Planning area two is redescribed as potential future retail area.

695
01:14:49,660 --> 01:14:54,280
Planning areas seven and eight have no land use descriptions and again no

696
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,920
color-coded for this revised plan. Okay, let me pause here. Let me pause here for a

697
01:14:58,920 --> 01:14:59,960
Second, I believe your speech...

698
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,980
There's nothing on an item that has been pulled for separate consideration. We're talking about 6.1, 6.2, 6.6, 6.7. So that's you to defer that until we opened up 6.3, 6.4, 6.5. That's okay. No worries. No worries. That's okay. Any others? Any others? No one else on Zoom? All right. Public comment is now closed. Entertain a motion to accept consent items 1, 2, 6, and 7. I'll make that motion.

699
01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:30,820
Thank you.

700
01:15:30,820 --> 01:15:31,360
I'll second.

701
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Please vote.

702
01:16:01,580 --> 01:16:02,020
I did not.

703
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,780
I'll start again.

704
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:06,980
I tend to display.

705
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:07,540
Okay.

706
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,000
Please vote.

707
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:09,780
Thank you.

708
01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:17,700
All right.

709
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:18,700
Motion carries 5-0.

710
01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:21,460
6.3.

711
01:16:23,950 --> 01:16:24,850
Councilmember Flemme.

712
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:25,110
Okay.

713
01:16:25,230 --> 01:16:28,690
This is about Public Works Capital Improvement Project Tracking List.

714
01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:35,430
And I just wanted some update and information on the Sun Lakes Boulevard Extension

715
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:41,190
where we're waiting for incidental intake permit from CDFW to begin construction.

716
01:16:41,610 --> 01:16:43,550
I wanted to know where that is at.

717
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:45,690
Yeah, great question.

718
01:16:46,090 --> 01:16:54,090
So unfortunately, we saw a delay in the issuance of one of the agencies permit the CDFW permit.

719
01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:57,690
We were expecting to receive that, I believe, last week.

720
01:16:58,210 --> 01:17:05,070
Nate Smith, our Deputy Director of Public Works and City Engineer, he has a meeting with CDFW coming up to get an update from them to see

721
01:17:05,070 --> 01:17:09,390
what the delay is and hopefully hopefully we get that permit issued next week.

722
01:17:10,090 --> 01:17:16,330
So what is the cut off for the funding where we could lose funding if they don't give

723
01:17:16,330 --> 01:17:17,010
us that permit?

724
01:17:17,710 --> 01:17:20,250
You know, I don't have that date in front of me.

725
01:17:20,810 --> 01:17:28,350
We have kept RCTC well informed of the delay and they are being very flexible with us and

726
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:31,130
so we've been keeping them in the loop.

727
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:46,090
Okay, so they're considering moving that if like let's say we know we're gonna get it in a week or two and the deadline was that week, they would consider moving that.

728
01:17:46,170 --> 01:17:46,910
That is correct.

729
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:49,850
To help that happen.

730
01:17:50,170 --> 01:18:00,070
And I think the deadline could be June of this year we're supposed to have our first invoice for the project submitted and so we still have a little bit of time there.

731
01:18:00,070 --> 01:18:10,020
okay thank you and other questions public comment 6.3 no

732
01:18:14,050 --> 01:18:15,710
comments close public

733
01:18:15,710 --> 01:18:24,930
comment entertain a motion I'll make a motion to accept 6.3 second as well as

734
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:34,790
a recent file we have to vote on it let me see is that okay we still have to do

735
01:18:36,190 --> 01:18:41,090
We have to still vote on receiving file to approve it.

736
01:18:41,690 --> 01:18:45,770
It was part of consent so we should do a vote, yeah we should do a vote.

737
01:18:46,590 --> 01:18:47,270
Please vote.

738
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:03,860
Okay, motion passed this 5-0, 6.4, the second reading of adoption of ordinance 16, 18, and 16, 20.

739
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:12,160
Yeah, I'm pulling this to give the public an opportunity to speak on this topic again.

740
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,220
Good

741
01:19:28,330 --> 01:19:38,330
evening, the zoning items that are on the agenda pertain to the project sunset crossroads.

742
01:19:38,590 --> 01:19:45,570
And so I want to address that in the large since approval of the rezoning would be tantamount

743
01:19:45,570 --> 01:19:47,810
to considering the item no further.

744
01:19:48,510 --> 01:19:55,290
My name is Richard McCart, I'm at 4816 West Glen Abbeyway and I've come to address concerns

745
01:19:55,290 --> 01:19:59,970
regarding that I am some of these that I've been discussed before but I think some

746
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,980
Item, need emphasis. In particular, traffic. I don't think we have emphasized enough the problems that are going to occur if we have this project allowed to proceed. There are proposals for having routed for trucks and things of that nature, but there is going to be vehicles crossing over lanes and whatnot at that time. And that's going to back up flow getting onto or off of the freeway.

747
01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:32,860
and that will impact the entire city.

748
01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:38,480
So for that reason, I think that particular proposal has

749
01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:41,420
unacceptable logistic problems and risks.

750
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:49,140
I also believe that there are many other

751
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,280
other problems with the project as well.

752
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,600
Not the least of which is that proposals that have been on

753
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,500
on the Internet lately do not reflect items

754
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:04,460
that I had thought had been agreed to,

755
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,960
namely a reduced number of warehouses.

756
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:10,020
The items that I see have the same eight

757
01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:11,340
that were originally there.

758
01:21:12,860 --> 01:21:15,700
And it makes me wonder whether or not anybody

759
01:21:15,700 --> 01:21:19,860
is keeping track of the status of what exactly it is

760
01:21:19,860 --> 01:21:21,160
that were asked to approve.

761
01:21:21,380 --> 01:21:24,640
Remember that approval of the zoning is approval

762
01:21:25,260 --> 01:21:26,600
for the whole project.

763
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:37,420
Does anyone on the proposal, this is a rhetorical question, know exactly what is updated in the proposal regarding the location of warehouses and the like.

764
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:42,960
Also a concern that I think is very legitimate if you look at the country as a whole.

765
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:53,800
A lot of these warehouses that sit empty become ice detention centers, and that may not be what anybody thinks is relevant, but believe me it can happen.

766
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,600
is happening all over the place.

767
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,720
Has anybody required the developer,

768
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,320
or is it even possible to require the developer

769
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,600
to prevent this from happening?

770
01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:05,740
No.

771
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,160
I would like also to know why it is that we had no visibility

772
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,440
of the vote that was at the last meeting

773
01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:20,260
led to a four to one vote in favor of the project going forward.

774
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,340
We never had any opportunity to see any of the dialogue

775
01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:24,420
that went back and forth.

776
01:22:24,820 --> 01:22:26,840
I'm not even sure of when, where, or how it happened.

777
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:31,820
I have concerns about that, and certainly leaves me to wonder

778
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,620
if things were discussed outside of console.

779
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,240
And that would be against the law to do that.

780
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,840
So, for those reasons and many others,

781
01:22:42,460 --> 01:22:44,840
the logistic problems associated with this project,

782
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:48,140
the pollution, the noise pollution, the light pollution,

783
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,200
the inability to see the sky as clear as we would,

784
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:58,140
is incompatibility with neighboring residential areas as well, contrary to city plan.

785
01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:08,040
I hereby say we take this opportunity provided by this zoning measure to therefore say that we should not go forward with this project.

786
01:23:08,380 --> 01:23:09,160
Thank you very much.

787
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:10,060
Thank you.

788
01:23:26,540 --> 01:23:37,670
I believe that the city has no directions of how or what goes inside these warehouses.

789
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:49,350
As far as the detention centers is the most pathetic thing in the world for children, parents,

790
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:56,470
and American-born, Mexican-American, Indigenous people as well.

791
01:23:57,510 --> 01:24:03,290
The problem with this also goes with, these warehouses are going to be used as data centers.

792
01:24:04,990 --> 01:24:11,930
It seems to me like these developers have a thumb over all of you that voted for this, why I don't know.

793
01:24:11,930 --> 01:24:20,510
the city's desperate of money, but that money should not be on the backs of

794
01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:24,050
residents that are living their last years.

795
01:24:24,930 --> 01:24:27,890
Their children may live in those homes as well.

796
01:24:29,370 --> 01:24:36,090
I was really surprised to know that the developer was going against a certain

797
01:24:36,090 --> 01:24:41,110
person of being elected as a council member and still,

798
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:44,920
to me, it seemed like that person

799
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:45,840
got slapped twice.

800
01:24:48,220 --> 01:24:55,040
That says a lot about how desperate the city is into getting money

801
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:59,600
that they'll do anything. You're going to be under the thumb of these

802
01:24:59,600 --> 01:24:59,820
develop.

803
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,300
Members, and this for what, 30 years? How sad. And then if some of these warehouses become not only detention centers, which is the bottom of the barrel for people that think it's cool, but it's not. But these data centers that are going to come in, they're going to come in and they are going to take a lot of our utilities. They're in danger to the wildlife, they're in danger to human beings.

804
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:36,440
And look up about data centers and you'll see how much of a pollution they do cause.

805
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:47,940
It's just to shame how I feel that this was your last help we're dying here.

806
01:25:48,900 --> 01:25:49,520
No, we're not.

807
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:55,300
Money was lost, it was mismanaged, and we have to pay out of it again.

808
01:25:56,020 --> 01:25:57,160
And we shouldn't have to do that.

809
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,580
Nobody has to.

810
01:25:58,580 --> 01:26:04,700
So don't put people's lives in the hands of rich people that don't even live here.

811
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,300
Their families aren't here, you know, put a big plot of a warehouse and

812
01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:19,400
they'll still make money, whether it's empty or not, the sketchers warehouses, and it's empty.

813
01:26:20,980 --> 01:26:27,280
It was really sad to know about what happened to that warehouse in Ontario, that could have taken lives.

814
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:32,460
so anybody can do that, the people that are dropped off from the jail,

815
01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:35,200
the

816
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:41,600
homeless people can start fires in there. Again, if you think that people's

817
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:50,060
lives are not important and their money is, then that says a lot. It shouldn't be

818
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:55,800
happening. The money was mismanaged, I believe, and gotten away with it for many

819
01:26:55,800 --> 01:27:00,160
New years, sure sell the property, sure sell that property, sure sell that property.

820
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,320
And now we end up with this.

821
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:05,160
It's not fair for the residents.

822
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,840
And these warehouses are not going to provide millions of jobs.

823
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:15,700
It's BS, look at the warehouse industry now, it's up and down and up and down and up and down.

824
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,520
It's not going to happen, those jobs are not going to be guaranteed.

825
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:30,720
So they can put the red as a lipstick on this pig, all they want, but it's still a pig, and it's a dangerous one.

826
01:27:31,540 --> 01:27:34,880
For your lives, your family lives that are here?

827
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:40,440
Because just because it was put in this district doesn't mean that it's not going to be put in your district.

828
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:48,520
Or by your home, or by your parents, or just as precious your grandchildren.

829
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,960
So no on this, it's ridiculous, and it's shameful.

830
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:59,640
If I was a council member up there from another district, I would have said no too.

831
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,900
Because I am representing these people's lives.

832
01:28:04,780 --> 01:28:09,260
People's lives are more important than being mad at a community.

833
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:14,840
That's sad, I hear all these horror stories about, back when about suddenly.

834
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,820
But you know what, I wasn't there, I don't know.

835
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,120
I just care about people's lives.

836
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,460
And tell you the truth, I do care about your grandchildren's lives as well.

837
01:28:25,220 --> 01:28:25,660
Thank you.

838
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,680
I mean, Shula still haven't changed.

839
01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:52,340
I was handed this letter right now by the representative of Jerry Phelps

840
01:28:52,340 --> 01:28:56,400
and I was asked to read it and that's what I'm going to do now.

841
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:01,420
This is the letter that has been submitted by Jerry Phelps.

842
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,860
She is ill and could not make it.

843
01:29:06,740 --> 01:29:08,340
My name is Jerry Phelps.

844
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,680
As you know, I submitted my resignation to the City Council at the last meeting.

845
01:29:14,420 --> 01:29:23,260
When you move forward with your decision on sunset crossroads and the sand has sent into zoning residential

846
01:29:23,260 --> 01:29:29,520
land swap, a ridiculous CYA move, with no intention of ever happening.

847
01:29:30,260 --> 01:29:36,260
In my opinion, you bought into the incentives of the developer rather than listen to the

848
01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:37,340
voice of the people.

849
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,340
Tonight you are back to reaffirm that decision.

850
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:47,660
It's a good thing the developer has deep pockets because they will undoubtedly be lawsuits,

851
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,440
but you should get your three million.

852
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:58,040
and before we move forward let's take a look back for a moment are any of you

853
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,980
a way of that there are no-

854
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,040
No minutes of the planning commissions meeting in September 2025, which ran well past midnight,

855
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:16,260
denying passage of the Sunset Quarceles Development 3-2. I personally have asked for them

856
01:30:16,260 --> 01:30:23,840
again and again, but still no minutes. A legal document. How is it that the city council

857
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:30,200
Council has in approving this project and throwing away the opinions of their planning

858
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,400
commission has never even glanced at those minutes.

859
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:40,500
Furthermore, the City Council said that the planning commission voted in favour of

860
01:30:40,500 --> 01:30:46,600
moving the general plan's residential requirement to the San Jacinto College area.

861
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:55,260
that is a gross misrepresentation. The Planning Commission unanimously voted 5-0 against

862
01:30:55,260 --> 01:31:02,400
it. It is clear that the people of Banning do not want warehouses weaving in and out

863
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:11,300
our community. What about the area formerly known as Banning Point behind Albertsons? I

864
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:16,980
I have asked that this zoning be changed back to commercial and have been told over and

865
01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:22,320
over that there's nothing we can do about this because it's still in litigation.

866
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:29,820
At the same time, I understand that the city has been approached by a developer to put

867
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:31,760
two warehouses on this site.

868
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:36,780
Councilwoman Berington, what happened to your warehouse moratorium?

869
01:31:37,580 --> 01:31:38,360
How about now?

870
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:45,680
Now, one last time, as the minutes tick away, I implore you to stop the warehouses.

871
01:31:46,220 --> 01:31:50,620
At night, their lights will cover up our beautiful stars and skies.

872
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:53,560
Thank you.

873
01:32:08,110 --> 01:32:11,290
Honorable Council, thank you so much for the opportunity to speak tonight.

874
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:16,330
My name is Jason Baez, and I'm a member of Labor's International Union of North America.

875
01:32:16,530 --> 01:32:20,410
And we are here to continue our support for the Sun Lakes project.

876
01:32:20,410 --> 01:32:26,530
and just reiterating there are so many people here I mean literally thousands who

877
01:32:26,530 --> 01:32:33,470
travel great distances every day just to hold a job and to have that you know

878
01:32:33,470 --> 01:32:39,570
good feeling of working providing and not be in a welfare recipient and they go

879
01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:45,310
these lengths just to work but we need work here we need opportunities here and

880
01:32:45,310 --> 01:32:47,550
And we need something better for our youth.

881
01:32:47,710 --> 01:32:49,850
We need career opportunities.

882
01:32:50,670 --> 01:32:56,330
And this project is going to bring in career opportunities, especially stellar careers

883
01:32:56,330 --> 01:32:57,730
with union construction.

884
01:32:58,410 --> 01:33:03,470
Also accounting, sales, sales is one of the most high-paying jobs.

885
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:06,550
I've actually considered stepping up and going into sales.

886
01:33:07,930 --> 01:33:14,810
There'll be maintenance jobs, logistics, management, all different types of administration jobs.

887
01:33:14,810 --> 01:33:25,050
I heard one member of our community mentioned that these warehouse projects, the what goes

888
01:33:25,050 --> 01:33:28,510
on there, dies out, and they lose customers.

889
01:33:29,130 --> 01:33:30,490
I have to disagree with that.

890
01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:37,410
I never used to buy anything online until my daughter showed me the selection, and once

891
01:33:37,410 --> 01:33:43,990
I seen how awesome the selection was and how much money I can save buying online, I only

892
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:49,130
by online now, I basically just go into a store to check the clearance sections.

893
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:53,190
So I don't think we're going to have a problem in that area.

894
01:33:54,090 --> 01:33:57,210
You know, there's 33,000 people who live here.

895
01:33:58,050 --> 01:34:05,070
And just being respectful, we have about 500 people who are adamantly against this project.

896
01:34:05,470 --> 01:34:11,750
With good reason, they live in conditions where they're not concerned about all the things

897
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:18,250
that we're dealing with outside those walls you know there's a lot of if you were to tell people

898
01:34:18,250 --> 01:34:26,310
100 miles away in any direction how much problems we have with gains excessive drug use violence

899
01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:32,130
they probably wouldn't even believe it and a lot of those problems the roots of those problems are

900
01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:40,490
based on opportunity idle time always spells trouble this is an opportunity to keep our youth busy

901
01:34:40,490 --> 01:34:46,470
Our young people working, people working, stepping stones for better things.

902
01:34:47,010 --> 01:34:47,930
We need this.

903
01:34:48,250 --> 01:34:51,150
Our city treasurer said we're on a downward course.

904
01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:57,770
Financially, when things start going downward, they start excelling quickly and something has

905
01:34:57,770 --> 01:34:58,410
to be done.

906
01:34:58,410 --> 01:34:59,970
Now, this is the...

907
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,640
Council to so many things. And it's not just a couple warehouses. This developer has offered

908
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:14,700
my God. I've never heard of a developer offering so much. I'm very impressed. So please consider

909
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:24,160
all the blessings. And the other 32,500 people who are for this, or maybe some of them aren't

910
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:29,960
concerned about it but the majority of them are or that parking lot will be full.

911
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,940
And when the economic start going downward, guess who gets hit first?

912
01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:37,020
The city gets hit first.

913
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,320
My wife works for a city down the way.

914
01:35:39,940 --> 01:35:41,040
But who gets hit first?

915
01:35:41,260 --> 01:35:42,040
The city workers.

916
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:47,920
That our police force, our fire department, the people we need the very most here.

917
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,180
So please consider these things.

918
01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:51,360
Thank you so much.

919
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,240
Thank you.

920
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:03,540
Hello.

921
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,620
My name is Kathy Aronda.

922
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,560
Mayor Royce, I know you've been, I've watched the entire time we've been working on your

923
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:10,200
computer.

924
01:36:10,820 --> 01:36:14,740
I don't know what you're doing, but I appreciate that.

925
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:19,600
If you could actually listen and take notes after I speak, I would be eternally grateful for it.

926
01:36:20,460 --> 01:36:22,680
You can make a note I asked you to listen and then take your notes.

927
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:31,700
So this is a second reading of Sunset Crossroads, but nothing about this project has changed.

928
01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:33,620
The same facts are still in front of you.

929
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:38,200
This project brings significant air quality degradation,

930
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:44,780
increased diesel truck traffic, and impacts that were clearly identified in your own environmental documents.

931
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,920
Those impacts don't go away just because this is a second reading.

932
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:55,920
What also hasn't changed is the lack of trust in how decisions are being made.

933
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:59,900
The issues here are not just land use, it's the bigger picture.

934
01:36:59,900 --> 01:37:05,180
transparency has been inconsistent, communication has been lacking and the public

935
01:37:05,180 --> 01:37:09,880
continues to feel shut out of the decisions that directly affect their health and

936
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:16,380
quality of life. This is not about being anti-growth, it's about responsible

937
01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:16,940
growth.

938
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:25,480
It's about responsible growth in the right location and the right balance and

939
01:37:25,480 --> 01:37:27,380
and with real accountability.

940
01:37:28,620 --> 01:37:32,360
A previous project tonight doesn't fix what's broken.

941
01:37:33,220 --> 01:37:34,520
It reinforces it.

942
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:35,940
I'll say that again.

943
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:37,900
It doesn't fix it.

944
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,020
It doesn't fix the problems.

945
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,800
It just reinforces the problems.

946
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:43,580
You still have a choice.

947
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,940
You can move this forward knowing the impacts

948
01:37:45,940 --> 01:37:47,720
and the division it has caused.

949
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,460
Or you can step back and recognize that this is the wrong

950
01:37:51,460 --> 01:37:54,380
project and the wrong location or a jeeter reconsider.

951
01:37:55,860 --> 01:38:04,300
Also, not off my, what I prepared here, the Ontario warehouse fire.

952
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:13,100
The employees there are basically all third party employees are not employed by Kimberly

953
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:19,040
Clark, they're warehouse workers employed by third party entities.

954
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:24,160
a lot of these warehouse workers are assigned to different areas.

955
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:29,820
It's basically an agency that provides workers.

956
01:38:30,740 --> 01:38:38,340
And so hopefully those workers at the Ontario warehouse will find other jobs through their employer,

957
01:38:38,660 --> 01:38:42,040
which is third party who does warehouse workers and effect.

958
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,460
It's not just the cost, but there are costs to the city.

959
01:38:47,220 --> 01:38:54,680
there's cost with just repairs of paying for all the overtime, for the police, the fire, other agencies.

960
01:38:55,540 --> 01:39:01,520
Repairing hose, uniforms, I mean, there's a plethora, which I didn't have written down here for you today.

961
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:06,620
But close to 6 million is just going to come from the city of Ontario.

962
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:12,360
Their emergency fund or wherever you guys put all your little monies at.

963
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,800
There are monies that can be recovered so much through California, but that's not immediate.

964
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,640
You apply for it, and this is definitely not 100% recovery.

965
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:28,380
So when you have situations like this, and warehouses like this, there is huge impacts.

966
01:39:32,290 --> 01:39:37,570
My son, who is a firefighter engineer in a very large city, thought a warehouse fire.

967
01:39:38,850 --> 01:39:42,650
He received a medal of valor for his efforts at that fire.

968
01:39:46,130 --> 01:39:52,870
All this is real to me and people have said rude comments about old people in

969
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:59,690
some likes or what have you. I think I'm probably younger than at least five of you.

970
01:40:00,690 --> 01:40:30,670
Excuse me, four of you. But regardless, people have grandchildren here, and I cannot believe they are willing to sacrifice where their grandchildren go to school, playing outside, what they breathe, their children. I think this whole thing is disgraceful. I know it's the wrong project, and I know it's the wrong location. And you used to know that? You used to know that? I don't know. I guess you've got your green glasses on.

971
01:40:30,670 --> 01:40:31,530
You can't see it now.

972
01:40:33,070 --> 01:40:33,790
Thank you.

973
01:40:46,090 --> 01:40:47,730
Good evening, Kathleen Dale.

974
01:40:49,670 --> 01:41:04,750
I want to just start by saying I believe the action that was taken on March 10th to actually do the first readings of the two ordinances that are on this first item was not correct.

975
01:41:04,750 --> 01:41:12,030
The motion that you guys passed said you were going to do that introduction following action on the second item.

976
01:41:12,510 --> 01:41:16,050
You didn't take action on that second item until March 24th.

977
01:41:16,750 --> 01:41:21,450
So you need to circle back and do the first readings before you adopt the second reading.

978
01:41:22,670 --> 01:41:30,350
And just to say that what happened on the 10th was just a profound disappointment to me.

979
01:41:32,110 --> 01:41:36,870
You let money drown out the voices of the people.

980
01:41:37,790 --> 01:41:39,770
Opposition to this project was overwhelming.

981
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:49,130
The documents that are before you are a mess as the comments that were read by Inga on behalf of Jerry.

982
01:41:49,330 --> 01:41:57,490
There are errors in the documents, internal inconsistencies, misstatements, and they're just very unprofessional.

983
01:41:58,490 --> 01:42:26,250
I'm going to leave with Sandra an excerpt from the mitigation measures that were adopted for the general plan and again this was brought up to you many times during the hearings, but you do not have the authority to send trucks down sunset past Lincoln unless you amend the general plan and the truck routes plan to do that and there is an adopted mitigation measure on the general plan that says the city shall limit truck routes

984
01:42:26,250 --> 01:42:32,370
in the city to Ramsey Street, Lincoln Street, Highland Springs, sunset between Ramsey and Lincoln,

985
01:42:33,150 --> 01:42:38,030
eighth street, between Ramsey and Lincoln, Hargrave between Ramsey and Lincoln, and Halfaway,

986
01:42:38,410 --> 01:42:41,570
and you're obligated to enforce that mitigation measure.

987
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:55,510
Also, the information that's in the documentation is just flat out, inconsistent and not

988
01:42:55,510 --> 01:43:02,230
not transparent about what's happening in development areas or planning areas 2, 7, and 8.

989
01:43:03,170 --> 01:43:09,950
And the rosy picture that the developer showed of all that green over on the west side north of Sun Lakes Boulevard.

990
01:43:10,830 --> 01:43:20,370
There is not anything in the documents that you're getting ready to adopt that says that there's not going to be any building over there and that green space they were showing over there.

991
01:43:20,370 --> 01:43:28,410
It says you're not going to do trailer storage in area 8, but all the other industrial uses are still allowed there.

992
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:39,730
And it also says, something that doesn't make any sense because the provisions regarding planning area 7 use a reference to LI, which is not explained and is not anywhere else in the record.

993
01:43:43,420 --> 01:43:51,460
There were repeated statements at the decision making hearing about this new internal roadway being used to keep the trucks off of sunset.

994
01:43:51,460 --> 01:43:53,000
That's just not true.

995
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,640
An art halfway answered the question by telling you, it's in the development agreement,

996
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:02,700
but that new road they're adding from Sun Lakes Boulevard going up to Lincoln.

997
01:44:03,140 --> 01:44:08,900
It says right in the development agreement, the intent of that road is for cars coming

998
01:44:08,900 --> 01:44:15,320
from sun lakes to be able to get up to the commercial area without having to go all the way down to sunset.

999
01:44:15,860 --> 01:44:17,480
That road is not for trucks.

1000
01:44:18,220 --> 01:44:26,960
And Mayor Royce, the things that you said in your closing statement on the 10th were really highly offensive.

1001
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:33,920
You should go back and watch what you said because you at the beginning said that you found this amusing.

1002
01:44:35,140 --> 01:44:42,940
And then you repeated lots of information about truck emissions that is just not true.

1003
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,080
I'm so disappointed.

1004
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:53,020
I realize it's probably too much to expect for you guys to do the right thing tonight

1005
01:44:53,020 --> 01:44:59,980
and not to turn down the second reading of these ordinances, but your constituent

1006
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,800
It's from throughout the city. And I'm, that's all five districts have been organizing to take the next step. And using your words, Council Member Barrington, to take this pig of a project to a vote of the people. And I just want to say in closing that Council Member Flynn, I'm just expressing my gratitude to you for your sole voice of reason that you clearly understood

1007
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:35,780
the record and the issues and were the lone voice of reason in the votes up to this point.

1008
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:36,700
Thank you.

1009
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:37,780
Thank you.

1010
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:08,980
Once again, I'm back here speaking on item 0.61.4 or 614 and I see in there your pre-zoning

1011
01:46:09,540 --> 01:46:15,280
prior to annexing certain territories in this thing here.

1012
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:33,760
Maybe I don't know what it is, but how can you pre-zone property that's not in the city limits of banning number one, number two, last goal, very likely, may or may not authorize it.

1013
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:39,880
So look at your conditions there and read it.

1014
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,400
One, two, three, four.

1015
01:46:41,700 --> 01:46:49,380
The fifth line down named all the partial pre-zone prior to annexing certain territories.

1016
01:46:50,180 --> 01:46:55,780
On the number one, if they're so happy about this project, why don't they go ahead and

1017
01:46:55,780 --> 01:46:57,020
annex the project?

1018
01:46:57,780 --> 01:47:04,200
Why isn't the annexing taking place before the zoning is being passed?

1019
01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:10,480
Maybe the laws have changed so much over the years that I don't know what I'm talking about.

1020
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:19,080
But then the other question I have, Mayor, would be directly to you with the project that's

1021
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:30,480
located along Wilson Street in high, sunset, you're opposed, you're concerned about the high

1022
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:37,700
rise and all that, but you're not thinking about the people that live at the sunset and

1023
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:44,160
throughout there on it, and it puzzles me all that phone. I don't know how to shut it

1024
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,240
off. I'm sorry folks,

1025
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:50,760
I can't even get it out of my shirt.

1026
01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:56,580
Take it over there and shut

1027
01:47:56,580 --> 01:48:06,900
it off. I don't know how. But anyhow, and then again, your decision is for the citizens

1028
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:15,940
of banning. The gentleman mentioned 500 people opposed his 13 or 12 people sitting out

1029
01:48:15,940 --> 01:48:22,860
here in Orange for it. Whereas the citizens of banning that is for it, where have they

1030
01:48:22,860 --> 01:48:31,020
been that you got he's got 500 and he's admitted it already that want do not want

1031
01:48:31,020 --> 01:48:41,120
the project. Well 500 is is better than 13 people on it here on it so you're

1032
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:47,340
going to have to do some hard thinking but again the attorney can tell you

1033
01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:57,380
maybe. How can you an NX property or you can change the zone on the property before

1034
01:48:57,380 --> 01:49:05,900
the NX and sent it to let go? Is there an answer for that? Would you ask the city attorney

1035
01:49:05,900 --> 01:49:13,460
to give you an answer? It's very important because when you vote tonight, if you vote the

1036
01:49:13,460 --> 01:49:17,360
wrong way, you'll have that very problem down the road.

1037
01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:22,260
Well, they may change their mind and they don't want to annex that other property.

1038
01:49:23,060 --> 01:49:25,600
So what happened to the little green light?

1039
01:49:25,780 --> 01:49:27,580
Gee, I'll be able to speak for an hour.

1040
01:49:31,370 --> 01:49:33,970
It's just, did the bulb burn out?

1041
01:49:35,010 --> 01:49:35,790
You're still green.

1042
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:45,430
Well, it's telling you that you should not vote for this to project because the light is

1043
01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:54,890
loud me to continue speaking on it. So please, when we were all campaigning, we were

1044
01:49:54,890 --> 01:49:59,550
were not before the warehouses on it.

1045
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,660
And when you look at Cherry Valley Boulevard, two big warehouses over there. There are some cars there. I see once one first. I thought these whole in church in there, because I'd see them on Sunday, and it wouldn't see me the other day of the week. And again, we have the one out by the airport is temporarily being used. But the authority is that as soon as the project finished over in Marino Valley,

1046
01:50:29,660 --> 01:50:36,200
those people will be moving out for me back to Merino Valley so there again you'll

1047
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:47,840
have a large warehouse. But I won't continue speaking even though the light is out on it but keep in

1048
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:56,180
mind again I've been here so that damn long and 60 years I've had a moving company operating out

1049
01:50:56,180 --> 01:51:03,820
of Benny and I've developed commercial property at all ramsy with all the fast foods and everything.

1050
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:12,100
They bring in sales tax dollars. What kind of revenue is this project going to bring in and

1051
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:18,960
how many years down the road is it going to bring it take to get any money from it? Yeah, they made

1052
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:25,960
me put up $2 million or $3 million today, but that's also, that's not a gift.

1053
01:51:26,740 --> 01:51:34,220
That is labeled to be used on other categories down the road, so you're not getting something

1054
01:51:34,220 --> 01:51:34,800
for nothing.

1055
01:51:35,140 --> 01:51:35,440
Thank you.

1056
01:51:36,020 --> 01:51:36,760
That's your time.

1057
01:51:37,060 --> 01:51:37,720
Your lights now out.

1058
01:51:38,220 --> 01:51:38,580
I'm sorry.

1059
01:51:38,980 --> 01:51:40,280
The light is now officially out.

1060
01:51:40,700 --> 01:51:41,440
That is your five minutes.

1061
01:51:41,580 --> 01:51:41,680
Thank you.

1062
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:42,260
The light's out.

1063
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:43,220
I appreciate you.

1064
01:51:43,220 --> 01:51:43,560
Thank you.

1065
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:02,120
Good evening, Council.

1066
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:09,400
My name is Tara Hegey and I started a petition against this project back in

1067
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:15,740
January when I became aware of it instantly. I found out about it and I started

1068
01:52:15,740 --> 01:52:22,400
the petition. This is not something we want or we need here and the

1069
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:28,680
planning city residents have stated that over and over and over. I think one of

1070
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:39,960
things that is most, what's the right word, disheartening is a transparency on this project.

1071
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:48,060
We were standing here today still with not a full picture of what this project is as

1072
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:52,480
the developer came to the last meeting with changes.

1073
01:52:52,480 --> 01:53:08,880
We have no documentation from the as a community of what this project is so that tells me either there's information that's not being given to the community or you guys are hiding it.

1074
01:53:09,660 --> 01:53:16,480
I don't know which I'm not accusing anyone but transparency is extremely important and matters like this.

1075
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:23,590
I started this petition online.

1076
01:53:23,610 --> 01:53:27,310
I have now over 800 signatures of people against this.

1077
01:53:29,940 --> 01:53:35,220
There are many, many, many more citizens of banning that are against this project.

1078
01:53:35,820 --> 01:53:37,140
We do not need warehouses.

1079
01:53:38,180 --> 01:53:39,260
We do not need the trucks.

1080
01:53:39,460 --> 01:53:40,900
We do not need the pollution.

1081
01:53:41,480 --> 01:53:43,880
We do not need to reduce our quality of life.

1082
01:53:44,740 --> 01:53:48,520
I'm sorry, but you guys aren't going to be here in 30 years, probably.

1083
01:53:49,940 --> 01:53:51,500
everybody else will be.

1084
01:53:53,900 --> 01:53:58,300
I mean, we have to deal with the consequences of this decision.

1085
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:08,060
I am asking you clearly and urgently to reconsider your approval of the Sunset Crossroads project.

1086
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:15,320
The decision we have, the decision will have immediate and lasting consequences for the

1087
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:22,620
residents of this community. It places a large-scale industrial complex directly next to

1088
01:54:22,620 --> 01:54:29,440
homes, fundamentally changing the environment in which people live, sleep, and raise their

1089
01:54:29,440 --> 01:54:38,140
families. The impacts are not speculative, they are known. Clearly stated in environmental

1090
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:50,040
This project will bring continuous semi-traffic at a scale of dozens per hour operating day and night.

1091
01:54:50,660 --> 01:54:58,740
It will increase air pollution in residential areas exposing families, children, seniors to declining air quality.

1092
01:54:58,740 --> 01:54:59,940
It will enter

1093
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,920
These are just sustained noise levels that disrupt daily life and erode the sense of peace that residents currently have. It will place additional strain on local roads and infrastructure that were never designed to support this level of industrial use. These are direct impacts to health, safety, and quality of life. This is not simply a development decision. It is a decision about who and what we are prioritizing.

1094
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:35,440
and right now, it does not reflect a prioritization of the people who live here.

1095
01:55:36,420 --> 01:55:40,580
Equally concerning is the process that led us here. A decision of this

1096
01:55:40,580 --> 01:55:47,420
magnitude should be grounded in clear, transparent, and trusted community

1097
01:55:47,420 --> 01:55:54,440
engagement. Many residents do not feel that that standard was met. When people feel

1098
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:58,620
unheard in decisions that directly affect their lives, it creates a deep and

1099
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:04,580
lasting loss of trust in local leadership.

1100
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,920
You have the authority to revisit this right now.

1101
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:15,280
Reconciliation is not about reversing course without reason.

1102
01:56:15,540 --> 01:56:21,580
It is about recognizing when the full weight of a decision has not been adequately accounted

1103
01:56:21,580 --> 01:56:26,280
for and having the courage to pause and correct it.

1104
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:32,580
I urge you to act in the best interest of this community, not just in the short term, but

1105
01:56:32,980 --> 01:56:39,340
for the long term health safety and livability of the people you serve here in banning.

1106
01:56:40,380 --> 01:56:45,620
Do not adopt items 6.4 and 5.

1107
01:56:47,060 --> 01:56:54,560
I also want to state that I reviewed the records of public comments that were submitted to

1108
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,860
the city and my comments were not included.

1109
01:56:57,900 --> 01:57:06,800
So that means there is also a lack of documentation of what the city has received from residents.

1110
01:57:08,460 --> 01:57:12,360
Again, do not adopt item 6.4 and 6.5.

1111
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:13,480
Thank you.

1112
01:57:13,780 --> 01:57:14,040
Thank you.

1113
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,900
Harry Sullivan.

1114
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:38,480
I've been just observing this whole thing from the get-go and all that.

1115
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:43,120
And to be honest with you, I was against it in the beginning anyways.

1116
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:51,320
I just don't think the city has the road infrastructure to handle such a development like this.

1117
01:57:51,740 --> 01:57:58,560
When you get into warehouses of this size and the amount of truck traffic and so forth,

1118
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:03,920
you need designated roads just for the truck traffic to access and

1119
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:10,640
address from those areas like that, you don't need to mix it up with the city traffic and all that type stuff.

1120
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:20,940
And you have a situation where you're looking at sunset to be where they come on and off the freeway.

1121
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:25,880
And that's where the truck traffic is going to come to and from is on the freeway.

1122
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,700
And you have a situation there where you've got stoplights on both sides of the freeway.

1123
01:58:31,700 --> 01:58:38,900
It's not like eight street where you don't have the stoplights there because eight street is is actually 243

1124
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:46,240
Highway 243 and and so forth, but when you have stoplights on both sides of the freeway

1125
01:58:46,900 --> 01:58:50,720
It really causes an issue and these trucks are like

1126
01:58:51,230 --> 01:58:59,320
70 80 feet long. They're like three car links and in that I mean it would just be a just gold nightmare

1127
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:05,960
here, for this truck traffic to come and go from that place like that.

1128
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:15,800
And I think looking at it as an observer, when all those changes were made and it was

1129
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:17,140
brought to the council and so forth.

1130
01:59:17,500 --> 01:59:23,560
And it was requested by I think a very legitimate planning commission that it should have went

1131
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,540
back to the planning commission again.

1132
01:59:25,540 --> 01:59:31,800
But unfortunately now you lost two really good members off the Planning Commission and so

1133
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:39,160
Here you know here you're we're almost like in a divorce between two part two couples

1134
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:44,000
And so and it's really unfortunate because we work so hard

1135
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:48,540
A lot of us to move the city forward and get along and

1136
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:55,220
In cooperate with each other and I hate to see this divide started. It's it's really sad

1137
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,940
And so the thing is, you know, realistically, it's a

1138
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:28,060
I mean, there's no way I could vote for it if I was on the council. And I think it could be modified. The developer knew that the property was residential when they bought it. But I know developers are very good at manipulating cities. They're very good at manipulating city staff and all that with these grandiosis things that are going to bring all this great revenue. I mean, I've seen these windbags come to banning for years because I've lived here all my life.

1139
02:00:28,060 --> 02:00:36,740
And they come here, they got all these great ideas and you never see it, you know, it's a lot of talk and all that.

1140
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:48,100
But you know, the thing is, once the zone is changed, then it's going to, you know, there would never be any residential there, which would be the positive thing for banning.

1141
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:53,600
Now, you could modify this to where you get your commercial up in your northwest corner

1142
02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:58,600
of the, or actually, on strike that northeast corner of it.

1143
02:00:59,020 --> 02:01:02,280
You know, you could have some commercial in there, but then you could have your residential

1144
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:03,700
in there and all that.

1145
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:10,480
And the thing is, you know, this sunset crossroads has been such a big deal to relieve the

1146
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:11,980
traffic on Highland Springs.

1147
02:01:12,660 --> 02:01:15,980
And now you're going to make it a big mess is Highland Springs.

1148
02:01:15,980 --> 02:01:22,880
You're not going to accomplish anything with respect to the amount of traffic flow that were it ease up the traffic flow, you know?

1149
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,040
So it's just a really bad idea.

1150
02:01:25,260 --> 02:01:35,220
I would suggest that you just, you know, cancel this and then have them come back and they can do a modification to where, you know,

1151
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:43,020
they could put some commercial in there like I say in the northeast corner would be, you know, that would be compatible with the city.

1152
02:01:43,020 --> 02:02:03,540
But right now this project just isn't compatible with the city's infrastructure and I don't think it's going to the money it makes isn't going to change anything governments never have enough money you'll never have enough money the more they more you bring in the more they spend and and so you know it's you have to learn how to

1153
02:02:03,540 --> 02:02:08,080
to manage the money you have with your expenses and all that.

1154
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:09,700
So thank you for listening to me.

1155
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:10,840
Thank you.

1156
02:02:19,220 --> 02:02:22,180
I think we have somebody online for this topic. Go ahead.

1157
02:02:26,220 --> 02:02:27,360
I have Laura in line, Decker.

1158
02:02:29,500 --> 02:02:30,060
Yes.

1159
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:32,600
Hello mayor and council.

1160
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:39,300
I simply wanted to say I was working here and I didn't realize this was the subject.

1161
02:02:39,300 --> 02:02:46,680
and I'm glad it came back and everyone is saying what they have to say about the

1162
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:55,600
project. Simply I find it surprising only in the fact that the citizens here in

1163
02:02:55,600 --> 02:03:04,860
banning were not happy in the growth that Beaumont had. This particular project is

1164
02:03:04,860 --> 02:03:12,620
growth for the city of Banning. This project I believe is nearly five years of adjustments

1165
02:03:12,620 --> 02:03:22,960
that this developer has progressed to meet questions and changes that the councils previous

1166
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:33,240
to yours have also wanted. I believe that this is a project that we do need to begin progress

1167
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,800
for us for that we need here in the city of Bannon.

1168
02:03:37,180 --> 02:03:43,200
Though it is not ideal to many that are voicing their opinions here,

1169
02:03:43,820 --> 02:03:48,780
it is the growth that we do need here for the future of Bannon.

1170
02:03:49,860 --> 02:03:51,760
And in the years that I have lived here,

1171
02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:57,020
no one has wanted anything in the areas that they have lived in.

1172
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:07,620
No one has wanted it in their own backyards so I believe this is a project that we need

1173
02:04:07,620 --> 02:04:14,200
to go forward and to be in the growth that we do need here in the city of Vanny.

1174
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:19,500
Even though many do not want it and do not want it in their own backyards, thank you,

1175
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:19,780
Council.

1176
02:04:20,340 --> 02:04:20,700
Thank you.

1177
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:26,140
Any others online?

1178
02:04:27,260 --> 02:04:27,760
No, I don't.

1179
02:04:37,780 --> 02:04:44,260
Good evening mayor council members and staff my name is Omar Covey and I'm a representative for the Carpenters Union

1180
02:04:46,420 --> 02:04:51,760
You know one of my job responsibilities is I I meet with a lot of city governments

1181
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:57,040
I handle some of the governmental affairs for the Carpenters and the Ellen Empire and one of the typical

1182
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,920
same trends that I've seen in different cities and what I've

1183
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,060
I learned in the last few years that if the cities don't continue to grow, they die, or they will away. That's just the truth. That's the nature of growth. We know that more, more things are getting unaffordable, unfortunately, and that includes cities. And it's far and few between when you do get a developer, like the one before you for today's project that's willing to,

1184
02:05:29,060 --> 02:05:39,560
to not only make numerous adjustments to the project for the council and the city's benefit,

1185
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:46,420
but to also provide the community benefits that far exceed any other project that I've seen in the area.

1186
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:52,420
So, in short, the deal that banning is getting is a good deal.

1187
02:05:53,780 --> 02:05:58,440
Second, you wonder, people say, well, why can't you,

1188
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:02,760
New union workers go, just go build houses, build everything else.

1189
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:07,000
I wish the residential developers like the ones people praise,

1190
02:06:07,180 --> 02:06:11,320
KB Homes, Taylor, Morrison paid union wages, but they don't.

1191
02:06:11,660 --> 02:06:17,780
They actually, half of those jobs are crime scenes where we can't, they pay cash,

1192
02:06:18,380 --> 02:06:25,920
and they classify workers as independent contractors so they don't have to pay medical or even workers cop.

1193
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:27,220
That's unfortunate.

1194
02:06:27,220 --> 02:06:29,780
But we're not going to sit here and cry about that sector.

1195
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:33,440
We are going to talk about the sector that does pay a good living wage, and

1196
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:35,940
this project in particular is one of them.

1197
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:56,480
So when we have over $100 billion of green energy that has been installed by this current administration that's constantly attacking our unions, and we now have residents and environmental groups that continue to attack our projects including data centers, but this is not a data center.

1198
02:06:57,640 --> 02:06:59,320
Where do we go from here?

1199
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:01,240
How do we continue to play our mortgages?

1200
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:06,840
How do we continue to make sure that we have a living wage for our families?

1201
02:07:07,220 --> 02:07:10,100
We're not asking for anything unjust.

1202
02:07:10,940 --> 02:07:12,380
This is a good project.

1203
02:07:13,060 --> 02:07:14,980
I think it's in the right location.

1204
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:22,060
I think the community benefits our way, the negative aspects of it.

1205
02:07:22,060 --> 02:07:28,760
So, that is the reason, not to mention, we've got to provide job opportunities for the youth.

1206
02:07:28,900 --> 02:07:35,440
We cannot continue to ignore the graduates of batting high school and

1207
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:40,800
the surrounding schools and say, hey, tough luck, figure it out somewhere else.

1208
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:46,040
Go get a good living wage out in LA or leave the city, because that's exactly what's going to happen.

1209
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:52,220
And so there is opportunities on this project in particular to create a pipeline.

1210
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:58,340
We have a program in several high schools in the area,

1211
02:07:58,500 --> 02:08:00,340
ones in Beaumont High School in particular.

1212
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:09,420
It's called Career Connections, where we do have a pipeline for high school graduates that want to be in the construction industry that could work on local projects, this being one of them.

1213
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:12,720
So with that being said, I want you to consider all that.

1214
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:22,940
And I do commend on the 4-1 vote on March 10th, and I commend the courage for you to vote that way, and let's continue to vote that same way.

1215
02:08:23,020 --> 02:08:23,280
Thank you.

1216
02:08:24,580 --> 02:08:25,140
Thank you.

1217
02:08:25,140 --> 02:08:25,240
of

1218
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:37,480
evening Councilman Mayor and managers.

1219
02:08:38,420 --> 02:08:39,600
Yeah, my name is Robert Lugan.

1220
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,540
I'm with local 416 ironworkers.

1221
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:45,680
I've been a loyal member to them for 44 years.

1222
02:08:46,580 --> 02:08:48,500
And I am a retiree.

1223
02:08:48,660 --> 02:08:51,500
And I am came from the Marine Corps.

1224
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:55,600
And that's why they gave me the nickname Mad Dog because I bring

1225
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:58,760
that mentality to our union for nine years.

1226
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:01,760
I was Sergeant of Arms, E-Board, and I retire.

1227
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:05,020
but also was an instructor for two years for our apprenticeship program.

1228
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:10,000
So, and I am a delegate with the IE Labor Council.

1229
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:31,280
So, I either sit and rub shoulders with the electricians, the teamsters, the operating engineers, so that we all know where we're coming from to help push this education of training careers for these high schoolers that may not have the finances to go get college degrees.

1230
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:39,980
So we do, I did have two classes with MC3 program, multi-crafts education, and this is all billing trades.

1231
02:09:40,700 --> 02:09:46,780
So a project like this will open up to the young ones in banning high school and

1232
02:09:46,780 --> 02:09:51,660
other high school surrounding because what happened to metal shop, what happened to wood shop?

1233
02:09:51,820 --> 02:09:59,860
They took it all out because they didn't think it was necessary, but now they're seeing the urgency of the young ones that coming out.

1234
02:09:59,860 --> 02:09:59,960
Thank you for your time.

1235
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,460
To get into a career trade. And my brothers of the ironworkers, the carpenters, the labors that we all have come from families that also that taught us to trade. And it's not just for us, but also for the military personnel. And we have an organization call helmets to hard hats. And so when they come back from Afghanistan, Kuwait, they come to learn a career, not a job.

1236
02:10:29,460 --> 02:10:32,180
working at Walmart, greeting people.

1237
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:33,620
That's not the way of life.

1238
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:37,860
And so this kind of project will help them to benefit

1239
02:10:38,220 --> 02:10:41,340
and purchasing a house, hopefully in banning

1240
02:10:41,340 --> 02:10:44,280
or Beaumont or surrounding areas

1241
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:46,660
because this is a lovely town

1242
02:10:46,660 --> 02:10:49,340
and this is a town that is growing

1243
02:10:49,340 --> 02:10:50,780
and we see that in the future.

1244
02:10:51,340 --> 02:10:52,920
So I appreciate you both yes

1245
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:54,760
and continue to strengthen this.

1246
02:10:55,020 --> 02:10:55,320
Thank you.

1247
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:56,220
Thank you.

1248
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:15,660
good evening everyone. I'm a local resident I live in Banning I'm actually in

1249
02:11:15,660 --> 02:11:22,720
Sun Lakes and Banning has been good to me. I actually have fun in Banning. I am

1250
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:28,300
a member of Ironbrookers Local 433 and I do travel right now about 40 miles

1251
02:11:28,300 --> 02:11:34,440
to go to work. Let me be honest with you. I'm just gonna speak from the heart so here

1252
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:34,760
goes.

1253
02:11:36,970 --> 02:11:39,330
Right now I'm at the Coca-Cola plant in Rancho

1254
02:11:39,330 --> 02:11:48,250
Cuicamanga. About 40 of us are currently iron workers building the Coca-Cola plant

1255
02:11:48,250 --> 02:11:53,630
in Rancho Cuicamanga. We grub hub, we order stuff from the local community, we spend money

1256
02:11:53,630 --> 02:12:00,490
there. If we go ahead and build this stuff, we're going to spend money in banning. I don't

1257
02:12:00,490 --> 02:12:05,130
know about you guys, but the joint across the street has great zucchini fries and stuff

1258
02:12:05,130 --> 02:12:26,770
I go to the Akimi Contina to play billiards there and spend money there and you know it's a great community let's build some more on it that's all I can tell you I mean if there's going to be commercial and a big store or something there why not that's

1259
02:12:29,070 --> 02:12:31,530
all I got to say thank you. Thank you.

1260
02:12:44,970 --> 02:12:53,470
Good evening, City Council, City of Planning, and our developers.

1261
02:12:57,820 --> 02:13:03,120
I just want to say that I have lived here for over 15 years,

1262
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,620
and I have lived in some lakes that many years.

1263
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:11,380
I think that's a beautiful community.

1264
02:13:12,660 --> 02:13:15,600
Some people don't like us for whatever reason that may be,

1265
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:25,660
and that is really sad because new generations come just as I came and somebody else

1266
02:13:25,660 --> 02:13:35,600
was had left for whatever reasons. I have built a lot of friends. I have been a volunteer

1267
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:48,040
and everything that I am possibly able to volunteer and I am not very happy with this project.

1268
02:13:48,540 --> 02:13:53,740
I would urge you, please, please vote no.

1269
02:13:54,940 --> 02:13:58,120
Please revise this project.

1270
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:03,240
One thing we do not need is more warehouses.

1271
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:09,820
We need to have a vision for this city, please, a vision.

1272
02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:20,780
I cannot even go and buy a hotdog, for instance, do we have the hat here?

1273
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:26,520
No, the hat sells great hotdogs and great hamburgers.

1274
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:31,700
Can we go and buy a ham to the honey-peck ham?

1275
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:33,900
We have to go to San Bernardino.

1276
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:40,340
Can we go to Macy's and buy clothes besides the other stores that we have?

1277
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:41,220
No.

1278
02:14:42,020 --> 02:14:44,340
Do I have to go to Redlands for everything?

1279
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:47,100
Do we have to go to the doctors there?

1280
02:14:47,980 --> 02:14:49,800
Do we have to go shopping there?

1281
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:59,460
And as I hear that's money leaking out of this beautiful city, please.

1282
02:15:01,260 --> 02:15:12,080
Please vote no to the project of warehouses. Warhouses are no benefit to us against the

1283
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:18,900
create jobs, but we also need other buildings. And that those buildings can be built by this

1284
02:15:18,900 --> 02:15:26,680
gentleman here. So please revise this project. Thank you.

1285
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:27,900
Thank you.

1286
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:28,600
Anyone

1287
02:15:34,810 --> 02:15:35,330
else online?

1288
02:15:39,210 --> 02:15:39,570
No, no.

1289
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:56,280
Lekia, would you, president of the Bayonet Chamber of Commerce, I'm sitting here and I'm just

1290
02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:57,660
kind of in between.

1291
02:15:58,500 --> 02:16:05,120
What I'm just trying to say, that listening to both opinions, everyone is correct, right?

1292
02:16:07,020 --> 02:16:08,940
But it's kind of, yeah.

1293
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:15,660
So long story short, yes, we don't need your houses, yes, we don't need pollution, but

1294
02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:19,120
that hey, we need money, you know what I mean?

1295
02:16:19,540 --> 02:16:22,400
So for example, we are not in a situation where you see it,

1296
02:16:22,500 --> 02:16:24,280
you're sitting on a two, three million dollars

1297
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:27,180
and you decide, okay, should they build pool

1298
02:16:27,180 --> 02:16:32,420
or maybe some other addons to your house.

1299
02:16:32,780 --> 02:16:34,260
You know, we don't have that luxury.

1300
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:39,000
What I'm trying to say that city needs money,

1301
02:16:39,220 --> 02:16:42,780
we need immediate things, what city needs to address

1302
02:16:42,780 --> 02:16:44,240
to conduct regularly business.

1303
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:48,380
and you need money for that. Where does money coming from?

1304
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:55,280
I understand this is human nature and human nature is just, you know,

1305
02:16:55,640 --> 02:17:00,280
majority of people afraid of many things and it's not a natural thing.

1306
02:17:00,900 --> 02:17:05,740
But at the same time, you know, there is saying fortune favors the brave.

1307
02:17:06,340 --> 02:17:09,740
So I think we need kind of here to that.

1308
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,040
We need kind of decide about it.

1309
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:21,070
But the reason why I'm seeing that before people start hitting on me, that what I'm trying

1310
02:17:21,070 --> 02:17:28,990
to say is so everyone approach it like it's a cut and dry black and white and it's not.

1311
02:17:29,630 --> 02:17:31,630
Let's start with a very simple thing.

1312
02:17:32,190 --> 02:17:38,970
We have large businesses, let's say large individuals who own large swath of real estate

1313
02:17:38,970 --> 02:17:40,290
here in Bening.

1314
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:48,390
Okay, those people bought it, they paid by me and they have all the right to use how they want to do.

1315
02:17:49,010 --> 02:18:00,270
You know, you cannot force them to do this and that, if we will start kind of restricting them overall, I understand you can do it.

1316
02:18:00,370 --> 02:18:07,250
But at the same time, what you do, you take those large swath of real estate out of the rotation market.

1317
02:18:07,250 --> 02:18:14,390
So if you had, you know, certain acreage in the city which could you bargain and bring certain businesses here,

1318
02:18:14,770 --> 02:18:18,930
now you have a limited amount to deal with to get what you want.

1319
02:18:19,690 --> 02:18:23,190
And you have to kind of bear it in mind.

1320
02:18:26,490 --> 02:18:33,930
So, again, people or companies who bought that real estate, they have full right to develop it how it wanted.

1321
02:18:33,930 --> 02:18:39,770
it. Maybe system is flawed, you know, when you sell something to someone, you need just

1322
02:18:39,770 --> 02:18:44,730
kind of ask them, so what do you intend to do with that? You know, but no one is asking,

1323
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:50,270
and they're already in possession, and they have all right. And after that, become stag of

1324
02:18:50,270 --> 02:18:56,950
war. You know, okay, we don't want you here. People who don't want them usually don't pay

1325
02:18:56,950 --> 02:19:01,830
money for that, you know what I mean? But I understand the citizen's concerns that they want

1326
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:03,050
on kind of advanced forward.

1327
02:19:03,430 --> 02:19:07,610
How do you advance forward when you don't have means for that?

1328
02:19:08,670 --> 02:19:12,790
And okay, one of the arguments what I heard

1329
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:18,590
was the developer takes advantage of the city

1330
02:19:18,830 --> 02:19:20,710
of city of financial situation.

1331
02:19:21,150 --> 02:19:22,870
Hey, look back.

1332
02:19:24,330 --> 02:19:29,710
He held developer actually hostage for four or five years.

1333
02:19:29,710 --> 02:19:36,390
Now a developer climbing walls and goes to, okay, I'll do this concession, I'll do this concession.

1334
02:19:37,570 --> 02:19:44,150
And, you know, we're at the point where we're asking, you know, who's taking advantage of who?

1335
02:19:44,910 --> 02:19:50,730
You know, so look, if you expect like a straight answer from me, you know, yes, no, you know,

1336
02:19:51,490 --> 02:19:57,130
I can give it to you right now, but I'm just describing situation wherein, you know.

1337
02:19:57,130 --> 02:19:59,690
If you want to make

1338
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:28,860
The city going somewhere, you have to have funds. And since we are in this situation, let's use it. Use it to the best of, you know, extend of it. So this is what I wanted to do. Last one, hey, it's business. Business, it's not like Walmart. You come there, you know, you need gallon of milk, 350, get out. It's business. It's all this negotiation.

1339
02:20:28,860 --> 02:20:32,920
So, you know, it should be compromised in both sides.

1340
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:34,040
That's it.

1341
02:20:34,620 --> 02:20:35,080
Thank you.

1342
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:46,710
Last call, anyone online?

1343
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:55,660
Thank you.

1344
02:20:58,930 --> 02:20:59,430
Last call.

1345
02:21:02,180 --> 02:21:02,820
All right.

1346
02:21:02,960 --> 02:21:03,700
Public comment is closed.

1347
02:21:03,960 --> 02:21:05,020
19, 29 hours.

1348
02:21:08,440 --> 02:21:10,320
I do have a question for staff.

1349
02:21:13,730 --> 02:21:14,630
A few questions.

1350
02:21:23,860 --> 02:21:24,920
I have a question.

1351
02:21:25,380 --> 02:21:25,500
Good.

1352
02:21:27,420 --> 02:21:30,480
Can either art or live?

1353
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:44,160
I just kind of explained since it was a citizen said that it doesn't look right, but explain how that, the new, I seen it.

1354
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:53,000
So can you explain what the benefit it'll help for banning, because I say it all the time and nobody listens.

1355
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:54,040
Let

1356
02:22:04,180 --> 02:22:07,000
us find the slide. Councilmember Wallace.

1357
02:22:07,340 --> 02:22:17,540
I kind of on what she was talking about. I heard a couple comments. One was nothing has changed and I heard something that there were changes but nobody knew about them. I'm not aware of any changes.

1358
02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:26,240
And there is also an issue with the minutes from the planning commission not being posted. Can we look into that? I'd like to see that.

1359
02:22:28,850 --> 02:22:36,350
And Ms. Del brought up on those plans, one of the legends had the initials I think was

1360
02:22:36,350 --> 02:22:40,410
LI, which didn't have an explanation and I was kind of curious what that was referring

1361
02:22:40,410 --> 02:22:40,650
to.

1362
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:53,480
And then another one brought up that her comment or her comments were not posted on the

1363
02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:58,360
last meeting during the public hearing, they were included, so we can look into that.

1364
02:23:04,700 --> 02:23:08,940
I'm most curious as to what changes were made or not made since the last hearing.

1365
02:23:14,420 --> 02:23:16,740
Yeah, I can't think of any changes.

1366
02:23:17,540 --> 02:23:22,260
Obviously, the site plan, the site plan changed prior to the last meeting.

1367
02:23:22,260 --> 02:23:31,240
And there was a presentation that the developer gave that identified that there was a storage parking area that was eliminated.

1368
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:38,780
There was a small warehouse that was eliminated, but since the previous meeting there have been no additional changes.

1369
02:23:39,220 --> 02:23:39,440
Okay.

1370
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:41,440
Thank you.

1371
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:43,540
Mark Staples planning manager for the city.

1372
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:45,180
Please excuse my voice.

1373
02:23:47,020 --> 02:23:53,860
I would advise folks if they want to know what changes occurred on the March 10th, a generalized item for this project.

1374
02:23:54,560 --> 02:24:00,540
An attachment that's kind of in the middle of the list is the red line version of the development agreement.

1375
02:24:00,540 --> 02:24:29,920
or you can see the strike-throughs of what was changed and it was a reduction of both the commercial square footage and the industrial square footage both were reduced but still promising the hundred thousand square foot big box retailer that they have until right now to be the first project on the commercial site but seeing the changes are there and then later on in the development agreement, the updated site plan.

1376
02:24:29,920 --> 02:24:49,560
general concept site plan is attachment. If I remember right, G1, it's later on in the document page 70 something shows the updated site plan with the truck yard removed and the northeaster most building removed, which results in that reduced industrial square footage.

1377
02:24:49,560 --> 02:24:53,460
Yes, so I saw that but there was no changes after that right correct

1378
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:59,980
So the development agreement that is there the clean version is what will

1379
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:28,540
We'll be signed and adopted, which is part of this ordinance that's before you tonight. And the other ordinance before you is the zone change. Thank you. I just got one more question. And can you let people know why it's not a good place for residential. Can you let, you know, let the citizens know because they think that's a good place. Can you explain? It doesn't bring revenue. That's not going to help us pay these streets and stuff.

1380
02:25:28,540 --> 02:25:36,820
I won't speculate too much as it's not agendized, but the land had been under a previous

1381
02:25:36,820 --> 02:25:42,100
specific plan, the five-bridge specific plan, for mostly residential and I don't believe

1382
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:47,400
any follow-up applications were ever submitted to the city for any portion of that, including

1383
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:48,800
the commercial section.

1384
02:25:50,770 --> 02:25:51,450
Council Member Flynn.

1385
02:25:53,840 --> 02:25:59,440
Okay, so since we're asking questions here, not really discussion at this point.

1386
02:26:00,940 --> 02:26:12,260
Okay, so some of the buildings have been technically removed, but the Environmental

1387
02:26:12,260 --> 02:26:19,880
Impact Report and the CEQA has approved the full 5.5 million of industrial.

1388
02:26:19,880 --> 02:26:29,720
So my understanding specific plan still has those warehouses there, it's not in compliance

1389
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:31,900
with the development agreement.

1390
02:26:32,900 --> 02:26:38,900
And so on paper they're removed, but they're not really removed because at any time without

1391
02:26:38,900 --> 02:26:47,060
council approval in the future, only administrative approval, those warehouses can be put back and

1392
02:26:47,060 --> 02:26:54,000
bill. Correct? I would argue against that that we would follow the specifics in the development

1393
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:59,760
agreement. Okay but the specific plan should match should match and it does not now and so this

1394
02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:03,940
is what I have a problem where there's inconsistencies and there's problems and there's things that are

1395
02:27:03,940 --> 02:27:11,460
left out and it's not ironclad and it needs to be and so that is one issue because you're basically

1396
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:17,700
allowing 5.5 million square feet because that was what was approved by the

1397
02:27:17,700 --> 02:27:22,840
sequel and the IR and I know this from batting point you can remove stuff but

1398
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:27,780
it was the total was removed and they can build up to that without approval coming

1399
02:27:27,780 --> 02:27:32,160
back to the city council it says in there that only needs administrative approval

1400
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:39,700
which means staff so I think that needs to be addressed also the question about

1401
02:27:39,700 --> 02:27:45,420
There are no sunset, it's not a truck route.

1402
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:49,560
It has houses along it within a thousand feet.

1403
02:27:51,780 --> 02:27:57,280
And the only part that's truck route is from sunset to Lincoln.

1404
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,560
And beyond that, south of that, it is not a truck route.

1405
02:28:02,700 --> 02:28:03,900
So how is that going to be addressed?

1406
02:28:06,510 --> 02:28:07,950
I will have to defer to public works.

1407
02:28:07,950 --> 02:28:23,790
So I believe that that traffic would be considered local serving commercial, so it's not a truck route, you're correct, south of Lincoln Street, but that in my understanding, it would be considered local, local serving.

1408
02:28:24,890 --> 02:28:38,290
As you follow up on that, because Ms. Del brought up a great point, our current plan with respect to truck route, we can send trucks down some of those streets that are listed without modifying the other plan.

1409
02:28:41,610 --> 02:28:46,270
When you say those streets, Mayor Royce, what streets exactly are you talking about?

1410
02:28:46,270 --> 02:28:58,350
I'm going to refer to, I'm going to botch this, as she was freeing to Lincoln, what, yeah, I'd have to bring her back up.

1411
02:29:00,700 --> 02:29:13,380
She listed all the intersections, all the streets that are currently not truck routes that are going to have to be accessed for this project, not for the purpose of delivery, but every day use.

1412
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:22,080
So, one of the things to keep in mind, there is the distinction between truck routes and then,

1413
02:29:22,300 --> 02:29:26,440
you know, trucks that are allowed to locally access businesses. So, truck routes once designated

1414
02:29:26,440 --> 02:29:31,660
do end up kind of in a statewide GIS database. Trucking companies will look at that.

1415
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:35,660
And as they're moving through jurisdictions, those are roadways that they are able to take.

1416
02:29:36,220 --> 02:29:40,960
So, right now, our truck route map, you know, as was indicated on there is Ramsey,

1417
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:43,580
it's Lincoln, it's the certain streets between those two.

1418
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:50,380
So as trucking companies and good movements are looking at our truck route network, they're

1419
02:29:50,380 --> 02:29:53,000
looking to see what is available for them to move through the jurisdiction.

1420
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:59,260
Separate from that, trucks are allowed to utilize roadways that serve local businesses.

1421
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:27,280
So, you know, some likes Boulevard is not a truck route, but a truck that's going to Albertsons is able to utilize that as is the destination that is the business that they are going to. So a truck that is coming to or from any particular and any particular business within the city would be allowed to utilize the city street unless there is some physical restriction that would stop them from doing so, you know, power lines, traffic signals, signage, so on and so forth.

1422
02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:35,800
So the current truck route Ramsey the Lincoln Highland Springs sunset between Ramsey and Lincoln 8th Street between Ramsey and Lincoln

1423
02:30:35,800 --> 02:30:38,380
Hargray between Ramsey and Lincoln and Hathaway

1424
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:41,180
Yes, they're not technically truck routes, but

1425
02:30:41,800 --> 02:30:46,000
As you just mentioned they would be utilized for the purpose of local delivery or

1426
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:51,180
Something like that. Yeah for good movement. So you know if you have an oversized truck for example

1427
02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:56,500
We have something that's over height the can't get underneath the bridge or yeah, they would be able to utilize those routes

1428
02:30:56,500 --> 02:30:59,240
So they're available on statewide databases for that.

1429
02:31:00,180 --> 02:31:00,480
Sorry.

1430
02:31:00,620 --> 02:31:00,700
Okay.

1431
02:31:01,880 --> 02:31:11,160
And also, I know, I think the meaning of the 24th, I mean, my big concern is having,

1432
02:31:11,360 --> 02:31:18,620
and it's always been my big concern, is trucks going west on Sunlake's full of art,

1433
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:22,800
through a residential community to Island Springs and vice versa.

1434
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:30,020
And that was to be mitigated by this, I don't even know.

1435
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:31,260
I don't think they call it a headache bar.

1436
02:31:31,740 --> 02:31:32,940
A headache bar, okay.

1437
02:31:33,880 --> 02:31:38,860
And I think that I would like a lot more clarification on that and

1438
02:31:38,860 --> 02:31:41,580
how that's going to work and if that's been used in other places.

1439
02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:47,280
And to me, it seems like, as soon as a truck goes through there and

1440
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:50,060
tears the thing down, it'll be like, oh well, we tried.

1441
02:31:50,060 --> 02:31:55,380
We can't really put that back up and then they'll just be able to go through.

1442
02:31:56,220 --> 02:32:00,720
So I don't I don't think there's been enough clarification on that at least for me.

1443
02:32:00,960 --> 02:32:04,260
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't even remember seeing that in there.

1444
02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:08,620
I know it was presented, but I don't know where that is in the agreement.

1445
02:32:09,460 --> 02:32:11,480
Where that has been placed in there.

1446
02:32:11,900 --> 02:32:15,180
It was brought up by the developer and shown by the developer, but

1447
02:32:15,180 --> 02:32:24,800
But I don't see it actually put into writing into the project and clearly having detail on what that is.

1448
02:32:25,340 --> 02:32:29,380
So that was an offer that was made by the developer as a potential solution.

1449
02:32:29,880 --> 02:32:37,140
We would need to continue to evaluate that from a public work standpoint to ensure that if something along those lines were to be implemented,

1450
02:32:37,300 --> 02:32:44,500
that it's not going to negatively impact fire response or other key city functions that we need in there.

1451
02:32:44,500 --> 02:32:49,860
It's something that we will need to address as we do move through final engineering as to whether or not that is the best solution.

1452
02:32:50,360 --> 02:33:03,380
Or if there are alternative designs that they could implement within the site that would make it very difficult for trucks leaving to head west where they would cross through the Sunlinks community out to Highlands Springs.

1453
02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:07,320
So basically it's not guaranteed and it's very fluid.

1454
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:13,220
No, it's section 3.14.3 in the development agreement.

1455
02:33:13,640 --> 02:33:14,500
And what does it say?

1456
02:33:14,900 --> 02:33:19,380
On page 29, construction of a truck barrier system on

1457
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:24,380
Sunlinks Boulevard at the western

1458
02:33:24,380 --> 02:33:32,360
boundary of the property to limit heavy truck access west of the property along Sunlinks

1459
02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:33,040
Boulevard.

1460
02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:47,480
This truck barrier system is an addition to other project improvements designed to prohibit heavy truck access west of the property along Sunlinks Boulevard. So that's in the DA.

1461
02:33:47,660 --> 02:33:48,760
Okay, thank you.

1462
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:58,580
We have to go to 6.5 now.

1463
02:33:59,300 --> 02:34:00,180
We're still discussing.

1464
02:34:01,220 --> 02:34:02,680
I can make a motion.

1465
02:34:02,940 --> 02:34:04,240
We'll still get off 6.5.

1466
02:34:05,020 --> 02:34:07,460
We're still discussing, I want to give it an opportunity.

1467
02:34:08,380 --> 02:34:10,580
Do you have any other clarifying questions?

1468
02:34:14,210 --> 02:34:14,310
No.

1469
02:34:15,610 --> 02:34:17,070
I thought it was too separate.

1470
02:34:17,370 --> 02:34:23,990
6.4 is separate from 6.5, so 6.4 cover is 16.18 and 16.20.

1471
02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:30,910
So if we're finished with discussion, we can entertain a motion on 6.4.

1472
02:34:31,750 --> 02:34:32,810
I can make a motion.

1473
02:34:33,850 --> 02:34:45,010
So I make a motion to conduct second reading and adoption of ordinance number 1618 and 1620 approving an amendment to the city of bad and official zoning maven improving.

1474
02:34:45,490 --> 02:34:59,930
Zone change number 20 3050 to rezoning certain territories in the city located south of it and in the Union Pacific Railroad and west of the sunset avenue assessors parcel numbers APN.

1475
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,740
This is 537-110-003-005-5737-110-011-014 and pre-zoning prior to an annexation. Certain territories in the spear of the influence of the city located south of the northern border of Western Avenue and the west of sunset Avenue. APN 537-120-013537.

1476
02:35:29,740 --> 02:35:52,520
7-120-025-537-120-028 through----036, an improvement in development agreement by and between the city of batting and N.P., batting industrial LLC and Missouri Limited Liability Corporation.

1477
02:35:56,920 --> 02:36:03,690
I would like to make a motion also, can I do that?

1478
02:36:05,130 --> 02:36:06,290
A second motion?

1479
02:36:07,470 --> 02:36:10,690
Before the first one has a motion and a second,

1480
02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:12,990
and now I would like to make that motion.

1481
02:36:14,290 --> 02:36:15,770
A second motion can't be made.

1482
02:36:16,090 --> 02:36:23,670
So I would like to make a motion that we continue or table this

1483
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:49,610
ordinance until we have the answers to the questions that have been brought up here today and that everything is addressed, and we know that this is done properly because I don't believe at this time it has been done properly or too many loose and so I would like to make a motion to continue or table ordinance until we get answers to the questions that were brought up and the concerns that were brought up today.

1484
02:36:50,450 --> 02:36:51,310
No second,

1485
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:55,540
no

1486
02:36:57,680 --> 02:37:02,520
second, that motion fails, please let's vote on the first one.

1487
02:37:20,020 --> 02:37:24,220
Emotion carries 4-1, 6.5,

1488
02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:36,150
yeah let's take a quick 15 minute break, let's resume at 8 o'clock, 20 on air.

1489
03:01:31,820 --> 03:01:38,900
All right, we're back in order, 20, 0, 900 hours. Let's move on to section 6.5. Councilmember Flynn.

1490
03:01:41,420 --> 03:02:03,360
Okay, so this is just a continuation of the discussion if anyone wants to discuss about the zoning change, putting the 1146 single family, low density units onto 40 acres at the junior college. All right, I'll open up public comment on 6.5.

1491
03:02:03,360 --> 03:02:05,860
5, at 20, 10 hours.

1492
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:34,080
Kathleen Dale, again, and just a couple of things the ordinance is before you, I'm sorry.

1493
03:02:35,940 --> 03:02:38,220
That someone was interrupting me.

1494
03:02:40,350 --> 03:02:46,400
The ordinance is very unclear on the map, and I went back and looked at the maps from

1495
03:02:46,400 --> 03:02:47,900
prior meetings as well.

1496
03:02:49,860 --> 03:02:55,760
There are in some of the earlier maps where gray is used for the public facilities district.

1497
03:02:56,220 --> 03:03:02,980
There are two little blobs that are being left isolated down on the south edge of the property and at the south east edge.

1498
03:03:03,340 --> 03:03:09,940
So you might want to just confirm what the boundaries actually are for this rezoning.

1499
03:03:11,560 --> 03:03:16,660
I think it was mentioned earlier that there are some errors in the ordinances and

1500
03:03:16,660 --> 03:03:22,240
And this is one where it says that the planning commission recommended approval for this, that is absolutely false.

1501
03:03:22,800 --> 03:03:25,540
And the planning commission recommendation was 5-0.

1502
03:03:28,780 --> 03:03:32,200
The inaccuracies and inconsistencies should be fixed.

1503
03:03:32,400 --> 03:03:35,580
And again, I'd ask that you not proceed with the second reading.

1504
03:03:36,040 --> 03:03:36,420
Thank you.

1505
03:03:36,900 --> 03:03:37,360
Thank you.

1506
03:03:47,640 --> 03:03:48,420
Anyone online?

1507
03:03:53,570 --> 03:03:54,890
Okay, I have a grant, Roy.

1508
03:03:55,670 --> 03:03:56,270
Go ahead.

1509
03:04:04,190 --> 03:04:04,670
Hello?

1510
03:04:05,110 --> 03:04:05,930
Go ahead, we can do it.

1511
03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:16,720
Okay, yeah, I was talking on item 64 and I believe I was in the right place when I was cut off.

1512
03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:24,360
It was between 6.1 and 6.4 and you cut me off right in the middle of my comment saying I was in the wrong spot.

1513
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:25,800
I was in the right spot.

1514
03:04:26,140 --> 03:04:28,100
So if I may, I would like to speak.

1515
03:04:28,120 --> 03:04:32,980
I know you made your vote but I still think it applies to going forward if I may.

1516
03:04:33,580 --> 03:04:40,120
and just just out of courtesy and you know let me just say what I'm going to say

1517
03:04:40,120 --> 03:04:48,300
okay so I'll be quick so as I said earlier I would like to bring to the

1518
03:04:48,300 --> 03:04:55,420
Council's attention that under the attachment on March 10th there was

1519
03:04:55,420 --> 03:04:59,980
is attachment 11, 7.3, J2, and it's a...

1520
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,980
Exhibit G1 Modified Project Conceptual Plan. And the point I'm raising is that it's showing under this revised plan, it's removed 256,753 square feet of industrial buildings on planning areas 278. In addition, they've removed the purple color coding for industrial land use that was on the

1521
03:05:29,980 --> 03:05:39,660
the 2023 specific plan and the DEIR and you know they they have their color that that

1522
03:05:39,660 --> 03:05:45,420
purple for all of the planning error. So that's now gone under this revision that I just

1523
03:05:45,420 --> 03:05:54,540
mentioned okay and there's no okay so planning to area two is showing potential future retail

1524
03:05:54,540 --> 03:05:59,680
area and planning areas seven and eight have no land use descriptions and

1525
03:05:59,680 --> 03:06:04,680
again there's no color coding so what I'm going to ask first of all is to

1526
03:06:04,680 --> 03:06:11,100
let's go back to the banning general plan okay let's say that prior to the

1527
03:06:11,100 --> 03:06:17,080
vote okay showing planning area two is commercial retail burnt orange color is

1528
03:06:17,080 --> 03:06:22,600
showing planning area seven as existing residential and colors are brown for

1529
03:06:22,600 --> 03:06:25,200
for high density and lemon for low density.

1530
03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:28,320
And planning area eight is existing residential

1531
03:06:28,990 --> 03:06:32,260
lemon color for low density, okay?

1532
03:06:33,260 --> 03:06:37,140
So for clarity in the community interest,

1533
03:06:37,340 --> 03:06:40,420
I'm asking you the planning area is 278, okay?

1534
03:06:40,520 --> 03:06:44,960
For those three, that the city council

1535
03:06:44,960 --> 03:06:48,300
retained banning existing general plan

1536
03:06:48,300 --> 03:06:52,360
land use designation, and color code.

1537
03:06:53,220 --> 03:06:59,760
So the specific plan that was approved in the first reading, it's clearly described as

1538
03:06:59,760 --> 03:07:01,480
a modified plan, okay?

1539
03:07:02,060 --> 03:07:08,900
A modified plan can clearly include elements from both the existing general plan and the

1540
03:07:08,900 --> 03:07:10,440
proposed specific plan.

1541
03:07:11,300 --> 03:07:15,060
Now I under, okay, so that's really why I'm on the phone, okay?

1542
03:07:15,060 --> 03:07:23,780
Okay, so just look at that, again, it's a catchment 11 that was on the March 10th agenda.

1543
03:07:25,100 --> 03:07:31,560
And just look at it and all I'm asking you to do is that for those three planning areas

1544
03:07:32,940 --> 03:07:40,040
278, go ahead and plug in the existing general plan because they're not going to be used for

1545
03:07:40,040 --> 03:07:40,520
industrial.

1546
03:07:40,740 --> 03:07:43,860
The industrial buildings have been removed.

1547
03:07:43,860 --> 03:07:47,340
Now, there's a part of me like I'm a practical person.

1548
03:07:47,960 --> 03:07:49,960
So how I know there's procedures and stuff,

1549
03:07:50,120 --> 03:07:51,800
but however you skin the cat,

1550
03:07:52,380 --> 03:07:55,020
maybe you could come back and show the map,

1551
03:07:56,540 --> 03:07:59,960
they call it a modified conceptual side plan.

1552
03:08:00,380 --> 03:08:02,460
You could come back and say here what we've done,

1553
03:08:02,900 --> 03:08:07,220
because it seems like you're in that direction already on March 10.

1554
03:08:07,720 --> 03:08:10,460
So all I'm asking is just for those three planning areas,

1555
03:08:10,460 --> 03:08:21,500
just use the banning general plan, their descriptions and designations, and their color codes. I mean,

1556
03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:28,260
they're those color codes, they're a visual necessity for the general public. And so however you

1557
03:08:28,260 --> 03:08:34,820
skin the cat, now you didn't hang me up, and you let me speak, okay? So however you guys can solve that

1558
03:08:34,820 --> 03:08:41,720
problem. I did my level best. I actually was in the meeting on time when I cut off and I was

1559
03:08:41,720 --> 03:08:49,060
there for 6.4 and I was cut off. So, procedurally I feel this should be brought back and be submitted in

1560
03:08:49,060 --> 03:08:58,900
the record for the 6.4 and there you go. So, I got to stay in my piece and I wish you all a great

1561
03:08:59,780 --> 03:09:07,980
You know, you guys are you should be a phenomenal community don't sell yourself. You should listen to the people in your community. They want more and they want better.

1562
03:09:08,960 --> 03:09:25,060
And you know, with the warehouse is there's the jump markets really changing quickly as we speak. I mean, the job losses and the contraction or automation, you know, is a lot, but I'm sure you heard that before. Okay, I better go. Thank you.

1563
03:09:25,060 --> 03:09:33,220
All right, thank you for your comments and we'll make that note to put those under the property tab proper tab 6.4

1564
03:09:35,870 --> 03:09:37,310
any other discussion

1565
03:09:37,910 --> 03:09:38,630
public comment

1566
03:09:39,430 --> 03:09:40,290
Anybody else online?

1567
03:09:41,310 --> 03:09:44,110
All right

1568
03:09:45,710 --> 03:09:52,450
Seeing none others we will close public comment at 2017-hundred hours and

1569
03:09:52,450 --> 03:09:59,450
And yeah, can stuff look at that reference, the color coding and...

1570
03:10:00,880 --> 03:10:07,460
Could we get a clean copy of that that we can put somewhere on so that everybody has access to it and can see it whether it's online or something.

1571
03:10:09,780 --> 03:10:23,860
We can put it on community development. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Discussion. Okay, so I think this was a valuable exercise, although futile.

1572
03:10:26,450 --> 03:10:32,470
But I just like to make some comments. This project, like I said before,

1573
03:10:32,470 --> 03:10:37,670
or is a great project, just in the wrong area, in my opinion.

1574
03:10:39,110 --> 03:10:43,250
It's not compatible with the adjacent existing neighborhoods.

1575
03:10:45,210 --> 03:10:52,430
There are no mitigation measures, delineated for pollution, traffic, greenhouse gases.

1576
03:10:55,710 --> 03:10:59,150
P1.0, P2.5, which is the fine particulate.

1577
03:10:59,150 --> 03:11:05,650
But there's no mitigation measures only, a statement of overriding consideration saying

1578
03:11:05,650 --> 03:11:13,810
that it's more important to have jobs and money than the citizen's health and welfare.

1579
03:11:19,360 --> 03:11:22,080
All the industrial uses are still allowed in the future.

1580
03:11:23,220 --> 03:11:28,620
You may say it's decreased, but it's still 5.5 million, and it can still be built.

1581
03:11:31,500 --> 03:11:39,560
And, again, without approval, council, just approval of the administrator, which would

1582
03:11:39,560 --> 03:11:40,080
be staff.

1583
03:11:41,280 --> 03:11:45,700
Again, I don't believe there's clear written documentation of the changes made.

1584
03:11:45,880 --> 03:11:48,040
I think that there's a lot of loose ends.

1585
03:11:48,780 --> 03:11:55,400
There's, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us because we don't not have an iron clad contract

1586
03:11:55,400 --> 03:11:55,700
here.

1587
03:12:00,050 --> 03:12:07,730
As far as people saying that this has been on the works for five years, no, the property was bought five years ago.

1588
03:12:08,390 --> 03:12:16,410
However, this project hasn't been really on anyone's public radar or the citizens radar until a year and a half ago.

1589
03:12:17,830 --> 03:12:22,210
In fact, this project was hidden from the public for many years.

1590
03:12:23,530 --> 03:12:27,130
And people were not told that there were going to be warehouses.

1591
03:12:27,290 --> 03:12:34,890
They were only told there was going to be climbing walls and go-cart race tracks and restaurants.

1592
03:12:35,570 --> 03:12:36,710
That's what they were told.

1593
03:12:37,070 --> 03:12:39,350
They were not told about the warehouses.

1594
03:12:39,890 --> 03:12:44,730
And I understand it is still on the website that that's what's going to be.

1595
03:12:45,310 --> 03:12:50,150
And you totally negate the warehouses even in all the information you sent out in emails.

1596
03:12:50,150 --> 03:12:57,010
you are polls and everything, you never mentioned warehouses. I find that very

1597
03:12:57,010 --> 03:13:04,390
deceptive and disturbing going forward since we have to have mutual trust and

1598
03:13:05,210 --> 03:13:09,690
we have to have a honest broker.

1599
03:13:12,360 --> 03:13:19,060
So on a more personal note I was able to

1600
03:13:19,060 --> 03:13:24,780
actually drive through that property a couple of weeks ago because the gates are finally opened,

1601
03:13:25,340 --> 03:13:29,520
never been able to drive through there and I drove through there and I took a lot of photographs

1602
03:13:29,520 --> 03:13:38,080
and I got out and I looked around and it is a stunning piece of property. It has vistas to the north

1603
03:13:38,080 --> 03:13:44,880
that are gorgeous, it has vistas to the south, it has three streams running through it,

1604
03:13:44,880 --> 03:13:53,180
like Arroyo's, it is perfect for residential with a commercial aspect of what it was

1605
03:13:53,180 --> 03:14:00,420
zoned for. That's what fits into the community. That's what you bought it as. That's what,

1606
03:14:00,540 --> 03:14:09,340
in my opinion, in my vision for this city, it should stay. I'm obviously totally outnumbered.

1607
03:14:09,340 --> 03:14:20,420
But my heart is very, very heavy because I think we're losing a great opportunity to preserve this and

1608
03:14:20,420 --> 03:14:27,520
to actually have families in one affordable area that's left in Southern California and bring families in.

1609
03:14:27,600 --> 03:14:31,240
That's what brings in restaurants and brings in stores.

1610
03:14:31,820 --> 03:14:32,980
These are not going to bring that.

1611
03:14:32,980 --> 03:14:39,860
not. It may bring you your 3 million and 60 days, it may, but that's a drop in the bucket.

1612
03:14:40,880 --> 03:14:46,060
And this city is not going to go bankrupt. It is not close to go bankrupt, but even if

1613
03:14:46,060 --> 03:14:52,880
it was, 3 million wasn't going to change that. So, you know, I'm very disappointed in this

1614
03:14:52,880 --> 03:14:59,540
Council. I think this is very wrong. I think in the long run it's going to be a big regret.

1615
03:15:00,430 --> 03:15:19,130
I hope I'm wrong. I really do. I hope I'm wrong. I hope this is a very successful project and everything that you have promised us. And more happens. I really do. But right now I don't see it that way. So that's it. Thank you.

1616
03:15:19,130 --> 03:15:23,090
Can I hear from the,

1617
03:15:28,220 --> 03:15:32,220
just tell me anything, just like they think you won't tell me anything.

1618
03:15:33,020 --> 03:15:40,600
Just, just explain why you want to come here, was the main goal for being here to help

1619
03:15:40,600 --> 03:15:41,320
banning out?

1620
03:15:42,080 --> 03:15:47,120
Yeah, I, obviously you've heard my testimony, you know, multiple times.

1621
03:15:47,120 --> 03:15:54,860
If you look at what we do as a company, this is a place, why did I buy it?

1622
03:15:55,040 --> 03:15:59,960
Because I knew I wanted to invest here because of the fundamentals of the market.

1623
03:16:00,680 --> 03:16:06,340
That was my main driver before I knew any of you, the fundamentals of this market, investing here.

1624
03:16:06,920 --> 03:16:10,680
I founded this company 15 years ago with my partners.

1625
03:16:10,680 --> 03:16:16,020
We've never let a community down once, we've never fulfilled, not fulfilled a promise

1626
03:16:16,020 --> 03:16:19,820
in any community, I've negotiated every development agreement.

1627
03:16:21,240 --> 03:16:26,940
I think we've, I think what I've heard is that I tried to give you a project that gave

1628
03:16:26,940 --> 03:16:33,280
you commercial first, I tried to give you the public benefits that you needed from a financial

1629
03:16:33,280 --> 03:16:39,420
standpoint, I tried to give you job creation, I tried to give a package that I thought would

1630
03:16:39,420 --> 03:16:48,820
be embraced and I want you to hear and I've said to many citizens I appreciate that they've

1631
03:16:48,820 --> 03:16:55,580
showed up. I go to a lot of places where folks don't speak up and I'm glad there's a process.

1632
03:16:56,740 --> 03:17:01,140
I don't think it's been not transparent. I think it's been extremely transparent. I've been

1633
03:17:01,140 --> 03:17:08,320
at this podium a lot. I want to invest in your community. I do want to, I want this to be a great

1634
03:17:08,320 --> 03:17:15,040
project I believe it will be a great project and I think that you know time will

1635
03:17:15,040 --> 03:17:19,660
tell here but I think and I would just open it up if you would like me to come

1636
03:17:19,660 --> 03:17:24,120
to community meetings I'm saying it on the record again if you like me to come

1637
03:17:25,240 --> 03:17:29,660
specifically to the Sun Lakes community me personally and talk through the

1638
03:17:29,660 --> 03:17:35,720
of this project, or any community group, rotary optimists,

1639
03:17:37,900 --> 03:17:41,640
Kiwanis, toastmasters, you tell me where, when?

1640
03:17:42,560 --> 03:17:45,820
I will be there, or somebody from North Point will be there

1641
03:17:45,820 --> 03:17:47,920
to talk about the facts of this project,

1642
03:17:48,220 --> 03:17:49,740
and what we're going to do, and what we're going to do.

1643
03:17:50,040 --> 03:17:52,160
If you'd like me to come every month and give you an update

1644
03:17:52,160 --> 03:17:55,000
of where we're at with Lafko, with our retailer,

1645
03:17:55,500 --> 03:17:57,700
as I hear a lot of rumors, and there's a lot of social media

1646
03:17:57,700 --> 03:18:00,140
about how, I mean, I got called a windbag tonight.

1647
03:18:00,500 --> 03:18:02,660
A windbag that owns 600 buildings

1648
03:18:02,660 --> 03:18:04,040
and is done across this country,

1649
03:18:04,160 --> 03:18:07,280
build the largest privately held landlord in the country.

1650
03:18:07,640 --> 03:18:08,340
And I'm a windbag.

1651
03:18:09,080 --> 03:18:10,260
And I'm going to prove that wrong.

1652
03:18:10,720 --> 03:18:11,600
And I'm going to prove it wrong.

1653
03:18:11,960 --> 03:18:13,480
And we're going to bring you a retail.

1654
03:18:13,700 --> 03:18:14,600
We're going to bring you your jobs.

1655
03:18:15,160 --> 03:18:16,540
And wherever you would like me to show up

1656
03:18:16,540 --> 03:18:17,940
to say that, give updates.

1657
03:18:18,700 --> 03:18:20,080
Have updates on a website.

1658
03:18:20,340 --> 03:18:22,440
Provide a memo and email to you monthly.

1659
03:18:23,680 --> 03:18:25,280
We will give you every update.

1660
03:18:25,440 --> 03:18:26,360
We will be transparent.

1661
03:18:27,420 --> 03:18:35,100
And we want the public to know and we want you as council members and mayor to understand where exactly we're at on this project with approvals.

1662
03:18:36,200 --> 03:18:38,580
With our retailer because we know it's important to you.

1663
03:18:39,700 --> 03:18:43,900
So you tell me where to be and when to be there and we'll be there as a company and we'll show up.

1664
03:18:44,760 --> 03:18:51,320
I've already talked to some of the other groups in the community nonprofits about how we can participate in this community.

1665
03:18:51,320 --> 03:18:53,820
We want to be a part of your community.

1666
03:18:54,020 --> 03:18:55,980
We're not just investing a billion dollars here.

1667
03:18:57,020 --> 03:18:58,640
We'll have boots on the ground here.

1668
03:18:59,600 --> 03:19:04,600
We'll invest in your community, rodeo, stage coach days.

1669
03:19:04,780 --> 03:19:06,820
You tell me what it is that we need to come to.

1670
03:19:07,000 --> 03:19:10,340
If someone needs help in your district, there's a volunteer event.

1671
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:16,460
The foundation, we do events almost every week at North Point called live generously.

1672
03:19:16,620 --> 03:19:18,220
We're picking up trash, cleaning parks.

1673
03:19:18,900 --> 03:19:20,840
You tell us where to be and we'll be there.

1674
03:19:20,840 --> 03:19:24,220
We just need that input from you, because we want to be partners, so thank you.

1675
03:19:25,100 --> 03:19:30,460
I just want to make sure, too, we really need family entertainment stuff.

1676
03:19:30,760 --> 03:19:35,640
That's what we need, because there's a lot of young families that's moving in,

1677
03:19:35,820 --> 03:19:38,720
like to at well, and so it's not too for them to do.

1678
03:19:38,820 --> 03:19:44,060
They have to go to Murrino Valley to jump with them, and we need some stuff like that, you know?

1679
03:19:44,500 --> 03:19:48,960
As I said, before with our retailer, we're donating that ground to them.

1680
03:19:48,960 --> 03:19:56,380
We're donating the ground to the tenet, the main retailer, the anchor, so that we can have a

1681
03:19:57,260 --> 03:19:58,300
retailer start here

1682
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:06,000
And from that, we can build on the retail and the commercial component. We know what you want. I'm sorry, was that a question?

1683
03:20:08,730 --> 03:20:08,730
Okay.

1684
03:20:10,310 --> 03:20:14,290
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Any other?

1685
03:20:15,050 --> 03:20:16,890
We're in discussion. We're still in discussion.

1686
03:20:21,420 --> 03:20:34,160
Well, I would just like to say that since I was basically called a turn coat, I did. It's true. I did campaign against warehouses.

1687
03:20:34,160 --> 03:20:38,640
And I was dead set against this, this project before I got elected.

1688
03:20:40,800 --> 03:20:49,330
But after I got elected and saw the true financial situation of the city,

1689
03:20:49,850 --> 03:20:56,370
it was hard for me to say no to the commercial aspect of this project.

1690
03:20:56,530 --> 03:20:58,550
This isn't just a warehouse project.

1691
03:20:58,550 --> 03:21:11,930
There's 52 for acres of commercial, and this developer has agreed to build the commercial

1692
03:21:13,210 --> 03:21:18,570
anchor store first, that nobody seems to believe.

1693
03:21:18,870 --> 03:21:26,230
And I feel like anybody that knows me should recognize the fact that if I change my mind

1694
03:21:26,230 --> 03:21:32,550
about this project that should say something because I had every reason in the book to vote

1695
03:21:32,550 --> 03:21:43,970
no. But I see the need for the city and and yes it is about money because the city needs

1696
03:21:43,970 --> 03:21:50,210
the revenue. We don't make the revenue off the sales tax from Jack in the box and KFC.

1697
03:21:55,570 --> 03:21:56,210
That

1698
03:21:56,210 --> 03:22:04,030
And it certainly doesn't pay for an animal shelter that everybody thinks we should just be able to snap our fingers and bring back.

1699
03:22:04,930 --> 03:22:10,770
The city needs a revenue to do that and the only way to do that is with sales tax revenue.

1700
03:22:12,130 --> 03:22:18,490
And jobs are something that we need as well, but that's not what swayed my vote.

1701
03:22:18,930 --> 03:22:23,230
It's the sales tax revenue that this commercial retail will bring us.

1702
03:22:23,230 --> 03:22:33,800
So, I'll just say that I'll continue to change my mind if I think that the situation

1703
03:22:33,800 --> 03:22:34,500
more in set.

1704
03:22:35,680 --> 03:22:36,100
Thank you.

1705
03:22:36,340 --> 03:22:36,560
We

1706
03:22:43,150 --> 03:22:48,110
know going into this project, in this vote, that it was going to be a difficult

1707
03:22:48,110 --> 03:22:48,930
vote to take.

1708
03:22:50,270 --> 03:22:55,150
But people have to realize, you know, I didn't hurt, we want houses there.

1709
03:22:55,990 --> 03:22:58,310
Well, let's be realistic.

1710
03:22:58,310 --> 03:23:02,310
If there's going to be houses there, we had Atwell come in, they didn't buy that property.

1711
03:23:02,790 --> 03:23:05,470
We had KB homes come, they didn't buy that property.

1712
03:23:05,990 --> 03:23:10,050
We have Loma Linda trying to come in, they don't want to buy that property.

1713
03:23:10,410 --> 03:23:15,210
There's a reason homes are not going there because they can't afford to go there.

1714
03:23:15,770 --> 03:23:20,890
The only thing that's good for to go there is the commercial industrial development.

1715
03:23:21,830 --> 03:23:24,510
Because they could pay the money to do the infrastructure.

1716
03:23:25,590 --> 03:23:28,290
We are getting a great DA out of this.

1717
03:23:28,730 --> 03:23:33,690
We're getting a fire station that people have been complaining about that we need on the south side.

1718
03:23:34,370 --> 03:23:36,230
We're getting money for economic development.

1719
03:23:36,830 --> 03:23:43,510
It might not come the first day, but it's coming, it's written, they're not trying to get out of it.

1720
03:23:44,170 --> 03:23:48,830
We're getting money for our animal shelter, our tax revenue is going to go up.

1721
03:23:48,830 --> 03:23:56,770
So, there's some negatives and it's going to be negatives to any project that goes there, but there's a lot of positives.

1722
03:23:57,670 --> 03:23:58,730
And that's what we have to look at.

1723
03:23:59,170 --> 03:24:01,570
And we have to look at the big picture for the City of Banny.

1724
03:24:02,210 --> 03:24:03,730
Not just for one area.

1725
03:24:04,090 --> 03:24:12,740
I sympathize with Sun Lakes and the City of Banny needs this project.

1726
03:24:13,520 --> 03:24:15,840
So, that's the way I voted.

1727
03:24:16,580 --> 03:24:17,720
And that's all I have, Mayor.

1728
03:24:25,340 --> 03:24:49,960
Well, first I'd like to apologize to Ms. Dale and anybody else who may have offended on my comments about being amusing and trucks and all that that was certainly not my intent was simply trying to illustrate the obvious that we all live in Southern California and we are inundated by traffic the public benefits do not go unnoticed.

1729
03:24:49,960 --> 03:24:56,480
In addition to that fire station, which is desperately needed south of I-10, what we've

1730
03:24:56,480 --> 03:24:59,880
done, and I don't see where we can't do it here as two crit-oves.

1731
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:29,360
Space within that, to how's a police substation to also have law enforcement south of I-10, where it's desperately needed. Not to mention the other community impact that's going to have with revitalization of downtown assistance to the future of an animal shelter, which we all desperately need. So yeah, we represent the city, but we also are five individuals who represent our districts, and we have five districts. And my district four.

1732
03:25:29,360 --> 03:25:32,780
I listen to them, and again, I am not

1733
03:25:32,780 --> 03:25:34,780
unsympathetic to everyone's

1734
03:25:34,780 --> 03:25:38,480
comments and concerns here, but I

1735
03:25:38,480 --> 03:25:41,180
believe that it is a growth that

1736
03:25:41,180 --> 03:25:42,800
is necessary to bring banning to

1737
03:25:42,800 --> 03:25:43,800
a point where we need to be.

1738
03:25:44,980 --> 03:25:47,480
And with any luck, this is just the

1739
03:25:47,480 --> 03:25:51,360
first of many that we can finally get

1740
03:25:51,360 --> 03:25:53,280
other retail to come in here and

1741
03:25:53,280 --> 03:25:55,040
other development and other interests.

1742
03:25:56,720 --> 03:25:59,340
So again, the warehouses, I

1743
03:25:59,340 --> 03:26:00,780
I think it's a necessary evil.

1744
03:26:01,120 --> 03:26:02,580
But I think when you look at the concessions

1745
03:26:02,580 --> 03:26:03,900
that have been made back and forth,

1746
03:26:06,320 --> 03:26:08,400
there was pain on both sides on this negotiation.

1747
03:26:08,620 --> 03:26:11,940
I said it before, during any kind of negotiation,

1748
03:26:12,180 --> 03:26:13,780
if one side walks out of the room,

1749
03:26:13,940 --> 03:26:15,160
think that they got one over the other side,

1750
03:26:15,300 --> 03:26:16,700
then it wasn't a very good negotiation.

1751
03:26:17,380 --> 03:26:18,840
There has to be pain felt on both sides.

1752
03:26:19,020 --> 03:26:21,000
And I think that was definitely the case here.

1753
03:26:21,300 --> 03:26:23,240
So, that's all I have.

1754
03:26:24,640 --> 03:26:25,520
Only retain the motion.

1755
03:26:25,520 --> 03:26:26,480
I

1756
03:26:29,780 --> 03:26:48,100
make a motion to conduct second reading and adopt the ordinance number 1619 approve his own change case numbers the C 22-302 to amend the zoning and approximately 41 acres of land owned by Mount San Jacinto Community College District.

1757
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:54,760
Located near the southeast corner of Westward in sunset Avenue from public facility schools

1758
03:26:54,760 --> 03:26:58,140
To very high density and residential to transfer

1759
03:26:58,800 --> 03:27:07,740
density of not less than 1,146 residential units from the Sunset Crossway specific plan

1760
03:27:10,780 --> 03:27:12,320
Is there a second

1761
03:27:12,320 --> 03:27:14,120
a second

1762
03:27:16,130 --> 03:27:17,530
another discussion

1763
03:27:19,870 --> 03:27:20,670
Please vote.

1764
03:27:54,750 --> 03:27:57,310
I'm waiting for councilmember Berryden

1765
03:27:57,310 --> 03:27:58,370
Thank

1766
03:28:00,680 --> 03:28:00,880
you.

1767
03:28:05,200 --> 03:28:06,580
Motion carries 4-1.

1768
03:28:08,220 --> 03:28:09,640
Next up is 9.1.

1769
03:28:11,060 --> 03:28:12,760
Discussion of approving a finance director.

1770
03:28:18,250 --> 03:28:18,750
Thank you, Mayor.

1771
03:28:19,630 --> 03:28:23,410
It is my pleasure to introduce Jennifer Terry.

1772
03:28:24,830 --> 03:28:30,270
She is here with her family, patiently waiting for her contract to be heard before council.

1773
03:28:30,790 --> 03:28:37,110
I'm going to give you her background and education and then I'm going to ask our city attorney

1774
03:28:37,110 --> 03:28:43,790
to read through the terms of her contract so that everybody knows in a transparent manner

1775
03:28:43,790 --> 03:28:45,150
what the contract entails.

1776
03:28:46,890 --> 03:28:52,910
So Jennifer started with the City of Marino Valley in June of 2005 where she stayed until

1777
03:28:52,910 --> 03:28:54,550
June of 2019.

1778
03:28:55,410 --> 03:29:01,830
She then moved over to the City of Nuretta in the finance department in June of 2019 where

1779
03:29:01,830 --> 03:29:06,430
She currently is employed and she is their finance manager.

1780
03:29:06,610 --> 03:29:10,570
She's been their finance manager since June of 2022.

1781
03:29:12,010 --> 03:29:18,810
Jennifer does have experience with Fiscaly Distress City, which was very exciting to me when I first met her.

1782
03:29:19,790 --> 03:29:24,310
She holds a Bachelor of Science in Business from the University of Redlands.

1783
03:29:25,010 --> 03:29:31,610
And as attended numerous leadership academies, including one that I've attended through ICMA,

1784
03:29:31,610 --> 03:29:35,390
the high performance leadership academy, so she graduated from that.

1785
03:29:35,850 --> 03:29:43,630
She has also achieved the Distinguished GFOA Triple Crown Award, which is extremely

1786
03:29:43,630 --> 03:29:47,810
difficult to get, I know because my previous city did it.

1787
03:29:48,210 --> 03:29:54,190
She also has, I'm sorry, multiple years she's achieved for her city, the Triple Crown.

1788
03:29:54,190 --> 03:29:59,370
She's also achieved the CSMFO Capital Budget Excellence Award.

1789
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:28,080
Councillor her city as well, and so with that, I'd like to turn it over to our city attorney to read the terms of her agreement. Thank you, City Manager Gibbs. With SB 707, there are some changes in the Brown Act. One of the changes in the Brown Act requires executive compensation, not just city manager compensation to be reported out. That provision is not affected until July 1st of 2026.

1790
03:30:28,080 --> 03:30:36,800
However, as the city manager said, we're going to report out sooner than the law requires out of transparency and so the public is aware.

1791
03:30:37,380 --> 03:30:43,440
So the compensation report on the finance director's contract is as follows.

1792
03:30:43,840 --> 03:30:50,680
There will be an annual salary of 194 502.99 annually.

1793
03:30:51,480 --> 03:30:55,460
The reasonable necessary business expenses will be reimbursed.

1794
03:30:55,460 --> 03:31:02,740
First, the term is a five-year term, and if there is termination without cause, there

1795
03:31:02,740 --> 03:31:08,820
is a six-month severance, and three months of medical, however, if there's termination

1796
03:31:08,820 --> 03:31:13,840
for cause, or if it expires by its own terms, there's no severance payment.

1797
03:31:14,880 --> 03:31:18,680
Professional development in accordance with the adopted budget.

1798
03:31:18,680 --> 03:31:27,860
Sick leave is accrued at 96 hours annually which is 3.96 hours per pay period with a maximum

1799
03:31:27,860 --> 03:31:29,940
accrual of 480 hours.

1800
03:31:30,720 --> 03:31:36,760
There is a cash out provision of up to 96 hours, however, there has to be 40 hours in the

1801
03:31:36,760 --> 03:31:39,800
sick leave bank in order to remain in order to do that.

1802
03:31:40,580 --> 03:31:48,020
Vacation is 160 hours annually which accrues at 6.15 hours per pay period.

1803
03:31:48,020 --> 03:31:55,220
and if there's a cruel above 300 hours, that may be cashed out at 50%.

1804
03:31:55,220 --> 03:32:00,400
There is an 80-hour cashout provision, as long as there's in the minimum of 80 hours

1805
03:32:00,400 --> 03:32:02,220
in the vacation bank.

1806
03:32:03,020 --> 03:32:10,960
There is executive leave also referred to as administrative leave of 98 hours with a maximum

1807
03:32:10,960 --> 03:32:16,460
of a cruel of 200 hours and that occurs at 3.77 hours per pay period.

1808
03:32:16,460 --> 03:32:21,080
There is a provision for cash out of up to 98 hours annually.

1809
03:32:22,700 --> 03:32:26,480
13 holidays, one floating holiday, bereavement leave.

1810
03:32:26,640 --> 03:32:31,500
There is a cafeteria, a health and welfare plan that is capped at $20,000 per year.

1811
03:32:32,060 --> 03:32:38,640
Pursor retirement formula is 2% at $60, an auto allowance of $250 per month.

1812
03:32:39,200 --> 03:32:43,060
Life insurance, which is paid by the city up to $150,000.

1813
03:32:43,060 --> 03:32:49,580
dollars, educational pay incentive of $275 per month for a master's degree.

1814
03:32:49,880 --> 03:32:57,880
I wear reimbursement of $300 every two years in a utility credit of $150 per month.

1815
03:32:58,260 --> 03:33:03,220
That concludes the compensation report for the finance directors contract.

1816
03:33:03,540 --> 03:33:03,940
Thank you.

1817
03:33:08,660 --> 03:33:09,420
Any questions?

1818
03:33:09,640 --> 03:33:16,000
I have a question for the contract, that utility of $150 that should only apply.

1819
03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:18,700
if she lives in the city limits.

1820
03:33:19,060 --> 03:33:19,580
Correct.

1821
03:33:20,120 --> 03:33:20,240
Okay.

1822
03:33:22,680 --> 03:33:24,040
Any other clarifying questions?

1823
03:33:26,830 --> 03:33:27,930
Open up to public comment.

1824
03:33:30,020 --> 03:33:30,740
Anyone online?

1825
03:33:31,740 --> 03:33:32,100
I'm Sam.

1826
03:33:32,980 --> 03:33:35,640
All right, close public comment, entertain a motion.

1827
03:33:39,540 --> 03:33:43,800
Consideration of resolution 2026-63 approving

1828
03:33:43,800 --> 03:33:45,880
and finance director employment agreement.

1829
03:33:47,520 --> 03:33:50,480
Adopt resolution 2026-63.

1830
03:33:51,460 --> 03:33:51,960
I'll second.

1831
03:33:52,380 --> 03:33:52,720
Please vote.

1832
03:33:52,720 --> 03:33:53,740
motion

1833
03:34:03,150 --> 03:34:05,550
carries 5-0. Congratulations.

1834
03:34:05,890 --> 03:34:08,770
I was going to mayor if it's all right. I'd like Jennifer to introduce herself.

1835
03:34:08,910 --> 03:34:09,370
Absolutely.

1836
03:34:15,790 --> 03:34:17,390
There's no turning back now.

1837
03:34:20,350 --> 03:34:23,450
Well, hello. My name's Jennifer Terry.

1838
03:34:24,730 --> 03:34:32,090
I've been in government for 25 years and I am a lifelong public servant.

1839
03:34:33,310 --> 03:34:36,030
I understand the city has its challenges

1840
03:34:36,030 --> 03:34:45,310
And I look forward to correcting those challenges and getting the city back in good standards.

1841
03:34:46,270 --> 03:34:59,390
I have experience with backlog of in accounting and audits and getting them into the regular schedule as they should be.

1842
03:35:10,080 --> 03:35:18,640
And I do look forward to working here at the city. Thank you. Would you like to come up

1843
03:35:18,640 --> 03:35:28,600
and get some photos with your family? Yes. They've been patiently waiting. Can we swear her in real quick? And then we'll do the photos. Thank you.

1844
03:35:28,600 --> 03:35:29,280
Jennifer

1845
03:35:34,120 --> 03:36:02,120
Terry, I Jennifer Terry, who solemnly square that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of California, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith in allegiance, that I will bear true faith in allegiance,

1846
03:36:02,120 --> 03:36:09,120
to the Constitution of the United States, to the Constitution of the State of California,

1847
03:36:09,400 --> 03:36:16,020
and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely,

1848
03:36:16,400 --> 03:36:23,120
without any mental reservations, or purpose of evasion,

1849
03:36:26,160 --> 03:36:28,000
and that I will well and faithfully

1850
03:36:28,000 --> 03:36:33,280
this charge. The duties which I'm about to enter.

1851
03:36:43,660 --> 03:36:44,700
Mono, photo?

1852
03:36:59,360 --> 03:37:00,900
No, I heard two with council.

1853
03:37:59,780 --> 03:38:04,280
She's taken it from a higher angle than me, so I'm like, oh my God.

1854
03:38:17,570 --> 03:38:24,110
She said she's, she said she's, um, she's contagious.

1855
03:38:44,880 --> 03:38:49,320
I don't think we're not going to get tonight too because right now we're going to go back in a close session.

1856
03:38:55,820 --> 03:38:57,740
All right, see Monday. Monday.

1857
03:38:57,740 --> 03:39:09,520
All right, per the agenda approval, after 9.1 we are going to recess and go back into closed session.

1858
03:39:10,570 --> 03:39:15,440
In fairness, closed session is expected to be no less than an hour and a half.

1859
03:39:17,770 --> 03:39:24,470
So fair warning, at this point we're going to recess back into closed session 20, 47 hours.

1860
03:39:24,470 --> 03:39:25,370
All

1861
03:39:48,090 --> 03:39:52,170
right, we're back from close session at 22, 43 hours.

1862
03:39:53,010 --> 03:39:55,570
Madam Attorney, can you report on close session?

1863
03:39:56,010 --> 03:39:56,810
Thank you, Mayor.

1864
03:39:57,510 --> 03:39:59,870
With respect to item 3.1.

1865
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:15,000
The two cases 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4, there is no action to report on any of the closed session agenda items. That concludes my report. Thank you.

1866
03:40:17,440 --> 03:40:25,820
And with that, we have remaining items 9.2, 9.3, 9.4, 9.5.

1867
03:40:28,270 --> 03:40:30,490
We just satisfy 4.1.

1868
03:40:32,920 --> 03:40:34,140
Oh wait a minute, hold on.

1869
03:40:35,540 --> 03:40:35,980
I don't know.

1870
03:40:40,260 --> 03:40:41,100
4.1.

1871
03:40:41,400 --> 03:40:42,200
No, we're an open session.

1872
03:40:42,340 --> 03:40:43,840
We just reported that on a closed session.

1873
03:40:43,960 --> 03:40:44,700
That was 4.1.

1874
03:40:45,160 --> 03:40:45,320
Am

1875
03:40:50,370 --> 03:40:50,730
I missing?

1876
03:40:53,540 --> 03:40:54,860
I don't have a 4.1 on mine.

1877
03:40:54,940 --> 03:40:55,280
Hold on.

1878
03:41:00,060 --> 03:41:00,940
4.1.

1879
03:41:01,660 --> 03:41:02,420
4.1.

1880
03:41:02,420 --> 03:41:02,620
4.1.

1881
03:41:02,620 --> 03:41:03,580
We did 9.1.

1882
03:41:03,940 --> 03:41:06,560
That's 9.1.

1883
03:41:10,380 --> 03:41:10,820
Oh.

1884
03:41:11,360 --> 03:41:12,240
4.1.

1885
03:41:12,400 --> 03:41:13,040
4.1.

1886
03:41:13,200 --> 03:41:13,660
4.1.

1887
03:41:13,660 --> 03:41:14,080
4.1.

1888
03:41:14,300 --> 03:41:14,320
That's 4.1.

1889
03:41:14,320 --> 03:41:15,360
I have to close this closed session.

1890
03:41:15,460 --> 03:41:15,700
You're right.

1891
03:41:15,700 --> 03:41:22,440
So we closed close that and we're back in open session with 4.1 and

1892
03:41:27,110 --> 03:41:28,830
then we won't have to yeah

1893
03:41:28,830 --> 03:41:33,870
We'll do 4.1 and then we won't be able to do anything past 11 so I have to push everything to the next one

1894
03:41:33,870 --> 03:41:41,190
So who's presenting on 4.1 open session agenda and I'm pursuing professional services agreement

1895
03:41:41,190 --> 03:41:42,670
Where's my city manager?

1896
03:41:51,350 --> 03:41:53,370
We got 4.1. We can do this in

1897
03:41:54,490 --> 03:41:55,430
14 minutes

1898
03:41:56,530 --> 03:41:58,270
Did you

1899
03:42:20,540 --> 03:42:20,840
find her?