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I'll hear by a call to order the regular meeting of the bearably common council for Tuesday, February,

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February 14, 2023, we will begin with a roll call and collective allegiance lit by council President Pettie.

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We'd again call here. Hazard here. Kent here. Pettie here.

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Ellington here. Sloan. Sloan here.

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Here's a.

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Here's a.

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Here's a.

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All right, minutes were included on the website and email two, I will entertain a motion to approve the minutes from January 24th.

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Second.

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All right, is there any comment or correction to anything in the minutes?

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All right, all in favour of approving the minutes please say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed minutes are approved.

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Approved tonight's agenda that has not been modified, I will entertain a motion to approve tonight's agenda.

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So, we'll approve Pettie.

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Second.

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All right, we have a motion and second all in favour of approving tonight's agenda please say aye.

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Aye.

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We have an agenda for this evening.

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Madam Clerk, are we in compliance with the open meetings law?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Item six, we have a couple of presentations tonight.

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So, we will start things off with our utility superintendent, Wade Peterson.

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So, Wade, you have the floor.

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All right, thank you.

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Good evening.

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I'm here tonight's conference on federal mandate for monitoring or surveying everybody's home service.

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There's a lot of service.

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So, forever we've always monitored what our side of the water services,

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but now under the EPA guidelines we now have to identify all the private side-led services,

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which is quite a task.

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We've got like 4,000 services to identify.

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So, I wanted to come tonight to show you a little bit of what we're working on

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and to hopefully get our community that are watching this to help us complete this task.

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We have tell October of 2024 to try to identify as many of these services as we have.

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So, kind of.

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So, we track here as you can see we track in the process of tracking services and if they're

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copper, lead, galvanized, unknown.

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So, all these different colors, red and yellow are not good.

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That's either lead or galvanized.

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Blue is good, white or vacant.

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So, we have a lot of work ahead of us.

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We just kind of started putting this together.

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It's been a lot of time on it so far.

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But as we get every individual home to do their survey,

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it'll turn to a hopefully a blue blue where it's non-led, a non-led service.

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So, over here, we'll kind of verify what the utility side is.

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And then we'll go down and verify what the property owner side of the services.

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And you can do this one of two ways.

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One, we have a on our website.

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You can go to.

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Right here we take a survey so you can do this right from home.

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We'll just kind of go through one real quick.

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So, you just click on here.

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You can just kind of fill it.

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You'll fill in your name.

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Your address.

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If you have your account number.

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And we kind of show you where the account number is on there.

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You kind of identify what type of service you have.

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If you're single family, residential commercial.

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Then down here, you'll get into a couple parts where we help you try to identify your service.

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Here is a magnet where a magnet will stick to galvanize,

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but it won't stick to lead.

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So, there is kind of one pointer.

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Here is kind of a picture of a meter.

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And how the service comes into the house.

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And goes through the meter.

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Here is different types.

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If it's lead, you can scratch it.

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It will turn shiny like that.

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Copper would be like that.

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It could be tarnished.

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But if you scratch it, it will turn to a copper.

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Galvanize.

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You can scratch anything.

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Nothing going to happen.

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But a magnet will stick to that.

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So, we kind of give a little bit of help to our customers.

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Help us try to identify.

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And then all you do is you click what you believe your service is.

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Size wise.

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And if you want, you can take a photo which kind of comes in handy.

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If you have a tough time identifying the service yourself,

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you can click a photo and add it to here.

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And then I'll see that photo.

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And be able to assist with that.

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For example, here's one of our surveys.

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With the light, it makes it kind a little bit different.

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It difficult to see.

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But older house, not much there.

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Here's where your service comes up out of the ground.

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And ties into the meter.

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As you can tell, there's not a lot of space in there.

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But I can tell you that that's half inch galvanized pipe.

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The individual tried scratching it.

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And it didn't turn shiny.

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And she did put a magnet to it.

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So she was able to identify what that is.

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So it's not too difficult.

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But for those that don't want to go through that route,

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you can simply just call us at the office at 355-274-0.

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Mr. Thurrow.

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She was, we sent this to all you folks.

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She decided to just make the phone call and have us come visit.

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Were we there five minutes?

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I don't think so.

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Nope.

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It doesn't take long.

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It just doesn't really take long for us to come in.

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Identify what kind of service.

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So we're just asking for the public's help to try to get as much as this identified as possible.

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So here's my lovely tractor.

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So we have roughly 4,430 services in the city.

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Of that, we have still 2,980 that we need to identify the homeowner side of the service.

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So we've, we're over a thousand done.

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We're making good progress, but we have a way to ways to go.

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I can tell you since we started the lead service replacement program.

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In 2017, we've replaced the 136 lead services, homeowner side of lead services.

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So we kind of track that and do the percentage.

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And then down here in this lower part, this is the city's our side.

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I can tell you, roughly, we're going to be at about 830 lead services on our side.

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And then over on the homeowner side, but we have identified so far.

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We're looking at roughly about 230 galvanized services that we'd like to get replaced.

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But the lead ones right here is 319.

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Not all of them have been completely verified yet, but for what we know of the most that those are the ones we want to try to go after.

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And get out of the system.

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So you're just kind of a pie chart.

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One of the things with the EPA's mandate is in October of 24.

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We have to make this available to the public.

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So where you see this like right here, you'll be able to click on the city's website.

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And you'll actually be able to get in and look at something very similar to this.

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You won't be able to tell by who service it is or click on one.

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But you'll be able to use this identifier off to the side.

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And if you wanted to check your resident and see what kind of service you have.

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Or if you just wanted a general idea of what we look like, this is kind of what you'll see.

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But this is one of the things that we have to make public.

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So it'll be attached to our website.

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Again, I'm just asking hopefully we can get some of our customers residents to help us out with this.

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And if you see folks, please let them know that either go to the website and do the little survey there,

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or just give us a jingle and we'll come and visit you real quick.

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Any questions?

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Any questions for Wade?

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Thank you very much for your work on the lead.

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Thank you.

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All right, next up we've got MSA doing a presentation on the conceptual study and design for the Oak Street Overlick and ADA Path project.

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Let's return that mouse on.

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All right, I need this Marcus Rue with MSA.

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I'll take a look at the Oak Street Overlick and assess situations with the existing structure and then also look at alternatives to turn it into a park.

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Start with kind of an overview on the park.

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One of the things we noticed with the existing structures, the east wall of shifting.

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There's a fair amount of cracking through the blocks.

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There's been multiple repairs over time and then there's some site drainage invoids that are occurring behind the structure itself.

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These are kind of evident in the pictures.

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You can kind of see that tip and the upper corner there and you can see the iterative repairs that have happened over the years there with pieces getting.

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Parts of the gather, I guess, is the best word.

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And then there's some drainage issues that are occurring on site.

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With the existing sidewalk is getting washed out.

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It's behind the wall, the cracks in the actual structure.

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And it's a general safety concern.

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Some of the other things we notice with the site is there's a large large elevation change between the sites.

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It's about 30 feet from the top of the site at first street, down to water street.

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So that's going to present some ADA compliance issues.

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There's general aesthetic issues with the existing walls that are on there.

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The railings, everything's kind of settling and shifting around.

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So we performed some preliminary borings on the site and boring one in three indicated.

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One was native fill or native material, boring three indicated about 10 feet of fill in that area.

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There's a former raceway that used to run through there from a middle or something ran under the road and then back.

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Boring two, we hit obstructions.

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And when we dug into that a little more, there's an old bridge that used to actually cross over that raceway.

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That's probably the abutment for that.

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So we shifted over to boring four, which also indicated more fill about about 10, 15 feet total on that.

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So once again, as I said, there's almost 30 feet of elevation change between that.

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And that first of ADA ramp and then the one down on water street that applies or supplies access to parks.

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So with the dug into it a bit, we got some of the concept together here.

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And we're looking at a lot of 8% five to 8% slopes for ADA compliance.

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So there'd be a lot of railing that railing we're proposing to all be like a lighted railing to kind of provide an accent along the route.

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And we'll also put that around the actual overlook itself.

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Due to the structural concerns on the overlook we're suggesting to actually take it down and shift it over slightly and rebuild it with like a post and pile wall, which which can be modified to have a facade that looks more like a natural stone.

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Whether it be like the bearable, the bearable court site in the area here or we could even make it look like the existing structure itself and staying that concrete.

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And then supply some additional parking down there and provide that access from downtown to that.

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To want to park there and the future future developments that are happening across the river.

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So give you some ideas of what we're looking at for railing here. The lighted railing is kind of those top two photos there.

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The like a steel railing with an accent light underneath the handrail.

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Those stones that you see there are actually stained concrete that can be put on the front of the post and panel wall and help it blend in with the area.

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We're proposing since the wall we're proposing since we're taking to recommend taking down the structure itself that we could even save those stones.

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And restack them as planters or retaining walls on site provide historical signage something along those lines to indicate the history that actually was there.

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Structure has been here for 150 years. And then with the slopes that are on the sides, they're closing like a native planting, with stone, like boulders, restacks, stone from the existing abutment and some native plantings to help with erosion and help with the water control through the area.

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This is kind of a sketch-up of what we're proposing. We'll have the plantings in the front there, and nice little parkway down or a walkway down, that upper portion by first street there, we're proposing like a, in our park that you could kind of walk through as you go down, and that would be provided, all the art would be provided by the local artists.

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Then the big thing is the budget. Due to the retaining walls, the post-empile, the eddy ramp that has to come down, there's a large cost in the retaining walls for those.

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The lighted railing will have a bit of a cost that's kind of one of the things driving fact, one of the driving factors here.

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And then there's some contingencies in there, because the market variability, so in total it's looking, looking like it's about 3, 3.5, 3.6 million.

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That seems like a big number. And there's funding available for all of this. That's, we can access, there's the tap program, which is like an 80, 20 split with DOT, federal funds.

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I know that there's been some earmark funds already set aside about a half million I believe, and then we got stewardship funding grants that are available all over.

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So that's one of the things we can help you through, so I guess with that or questions.

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Any questions that we started to go after those grants?

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Yes, we've already received 500,000 in a congressional earmark, so that's allocated.

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And then across the street as a part of kind of this project, we also are looking at that park installation down there.

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We have 153,000 that we're received for stewardship funding, so ultimately this would be a multi-phase plan of going after grants and then doing the work that the grants would fund.

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So is that 3.5 million, does that include the removal of the existing?

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Because there's 80,000 dollar on classified excavation that is kind of vague.

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Yeah, it is a little vague.

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There is some removal in there. There's a fair amount of fill that would have to come in on site for the ADA ramp to come down because that's a retaining wall structure.

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So along those residents is along the backside with the shifting of the structure and all the fill that goes in behind that, that's what encompasses that.

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That's what the 80,000.

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Yeah, so the 3.5 does it does not include the removal because I'm assuming this will be done in phases as we discussed in finance tonight.

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Removal portion of it based off of public safety with the existing structure.

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So is that part of the 3.5 million, there's a 3.5 million, just the new ramp?

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Okay, we had included in this estimate.

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It's an overall removal.

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Yeah, okay, thank you.

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Any other questions?

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Will you be staying until we get to those items on the agenda in case any questions come up?

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Yes, that's got to happen.

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We'll just wait some more.

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Okay, some points, so.

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All right, great, thank you. Thank you very much.

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All right, bring this to us.

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Okay.

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We'll lose him.

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Okay.

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I'm going to wait till you're got him.

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We're trying to get Alderman Sloan back with us via phone.

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That brings us to item eight, public invited to speak.

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Any citizen has a right to speak on any item on business that is on the agenda for council action tonight.

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We do have quite a few people that are registered to speak tonight.

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And before we get into this, I did just want to tell folks that I imagine there's some things on the agenda that may evoke some strong feelings.

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And I do ask that all speakers and viewpoints be treated with respect tonight.

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I have no doubt that everyone at the day is and everyone in the audience tonight is.

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Working towards the best interest of bearable.

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We sometimes have a difference of opinion on what that looks like or how to get there.

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And the job of the democracy is to work through those differences. So again, please treat each other with respect and treat all those viewpoints with respect.

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I will also mention that this is not a Q and A. Sometimes people think it's a question and answer.

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It's not an opportunity for council to answer your questions.

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It's an opportunity for you to present us with your opinion on the topic.

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And there is a three minute limit on each speaker tonight.

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And in the interest of moving things along, don't feel like you have to use those whole three minutes.

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If you can get to your point across more succinctly, we encourage you to do that.

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And please don't make me get the going out and hook you off the stage.

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And with that, we will get started with, I believe, Jerome Mercer is the first person who wishes to speak tonight.

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My name is Jerome Mercer, I live at 8.33 year course circle in city of Berber.

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I'm here tonight to speak in favor of Mayor Nelson's veto and against the spirit lake development.

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I want to compliment Mayor Nelson on his veto memorandum.

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It is with clarity and detail.

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I do not disagree with any aspect of that memo, including his thanking you for your service on the city council for the city of Berber.

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We all appreciate it.

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The concern that I have with the development is that it basically opens up urban sprawl for the city of Berber.

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The day may come when that development is appropriate for the city of Berber.

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In my opinion, that day has not come.

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I hope that I do not live long enough for that day to come.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next we have Michael Platt.

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My name is Michael Platt.

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615, Effinger Road.

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I was on city council for 12 years and I think I can just use the full three minutes.

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It's been 20 years and we've had a little or no development.

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For me, now is the time to take advantage of the building expansion to expand our tax space and pay for increased costs for police and fire.

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It's time to welcome people to Berber, not drive them away.

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If I was a mayor, I wouldn't have vetoed this building project.

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The idea that it's a nice place to build.

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I drove it five minutes from downtown.

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Takes five minutes to get out to Devil's Lake.

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Thousands of people come to downtown Berber from Devil's Lake.

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I'm sure the people out there in the new building area will come down and support the people downtown the businesses.

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Just like that new.

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Again, furniture will help with people being right there to.

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These building projects are going to bring people to Berber and when I was on council many.

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Business owners said they're on razor thin margins.

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People don't shop down there.

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Mainly because there was a grocery store.

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Without them again furniture project there'd be a grocery store.

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So I think this is a good thing for Berber to maintain the downtown businesses and be prosperous.

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There's idea that this will endanger.

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Peel its nest to stay protected area.

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I don't believe that at all because then the proposed development your Devil's Lake would endanger Devil's Lake.

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I think that's just an excuse to stop increased tax revenue for the city of Berber, which we badly need.

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I wasn't made aware of this when a city council but we are short.

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We are short in 20,000 this year because money was improperly taken out of a tiff district to pay for operating expense.

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It's like robbing theater to pay Paul.

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But the costs are increasing for police fires and over removal street repairs.

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And these building projects are going to bring in needed tax revenue in order to take care of the increased cost.

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If you don't want the wheel tax to jump from 20 to 40 per vehicle.

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Because we were looking for ways to fund all our increased costs and this is the way to do it through new building projects.

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But if you don't want the wheel tax to jump up to 40, well then let's go ahead and approve these developments.

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For me the compulsive plan for 2005 covers that area wouldn't change much would an updated plan.

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I think merely it's an attempt to stop or delay new building projects for our city from people who want to keep bearable small.

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If we say small and we don't have the revenue for income coming in to pay for increased costs we'll end up dying out.

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We'll have you start wrapping things up mate.

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I will do that sir.

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I guess last thing I'll just say the Bible says there is wisdom in the council of many.

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I trust you guys on city council. I worked for two for 12 years.

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I know you do your research, you do your homework and I would urge you to override the marriage veto and then pass this for that spirit lake development.

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Thank you.

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Thanks man.

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Next up we have Bill Dagna.

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Thank you very much.

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I just really want to state that I back the mayor's veto for the reasons he stated I read that article on the paper twice and I think it's very well thought out.

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I'm very concerned that the new highway 12 will turn out like the old one where you build up and build up and build up until you don't even know there is a country around here.

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And it's going to take a lot of thought and planning to see what should be west of the highway 12.

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I know there was a special ruling just to get the sub station there for the electrical and a lot of thought went into that.

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So I appreciate your work on that.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next up is Mary Ann Codder.

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Hello, I'm Mary Ann Codder. I live at 97 second street.

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I'm here to encourage you as council members to sustain mayor Nelson's veto of the approval of the development agreement with spirit lake LLC.

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And it's really for two reasons.

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I think it would seriously erode the rural character of Baribu and would also promote urban sprawl.

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In his memorandum, Mayor Nelson said preserving the rural character and viewscapes west of the highway enhances the allure of our community and provides a valuable balance to the commercial corridors on the east side of the highway.

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And I completely agree with him building 254 apartments west of highway 12 plus additional commercial development would significantly alter the perception of Baribu to people traveling on highway 12 and I don't think that would be in a positive way.

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My husband and I chose to buy a home and retire in Baribu partly because we appreciate that rural feeling of the small town which has so much natural beauty surrounding it.

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The conservation vibe of Baribu was a big draw for me as it is for many others who choose to make this their home.

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This proposed development would seriously erode I think that special quality of Baribu is a community that values its natural resources.

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Secondly, urban sprawl residents of this proposed apartments of these proposed apartments could neither walk nor bike safely into town.

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They'd have to get in their cars to do just about anything.

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Why is that important? Because many, because along with many others in Baribu, I believe that it's finally important.

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We do everything to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to avoid the worst effects of climate change.

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Reducing emissions from gas powered cars is part of this picture.

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If this development goes through, there would I believe be pressure to build even more amenities to support the people living out that would now be living out there making further urban sprawl.

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Even more likely, and that would mean people driving even more.

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As much as possible, let's make Baribu a place where people can walk and bike as to get groceries, go to school, work, enjoy cultural activities and eat out.

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Clearly, there is a need for more housing in Baribu, but let's approve new housing and other development in a climate smart way.

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You have a chance to make this more likely tonight by taking a step back and thinking about the bigger picture.

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So I urge you to sustain Mayor Nelson's veto of this proposed spirit-like development.

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Finally, it's crucial that there be open and meaningful community engagement and what kind of development happens in Baribu going forward.

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Thank you for all you are doing to make this city make sure this city staff puts creating a new comprehensive plan on the top of there to do list. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Bruce Stewart is next.

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Thank you. My name is Bruce Stewart. I live at 1618. I'm gone when drive and bearable. I've lived here since 1998.

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And my wife and I oppose development at this time on lands to the West of Highway 12 and at the entrance to Devil's Lake State Park for four reasons.

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On number one, the process has not employed meaningful public discussion.

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The city of bearable comprehensive plan points to a separate detailed planning process for these, quote, urban reserve areas on quote.

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That employs public participation and creates a preliminary concept plan.

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The city should then require compliance with this detailed plan as a condition of annexation.

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These steps are detailed on page 88 of the comprehensive plan.

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Our second concern is the loss of prime agricultural land. The soils on the land west of Highway 12 are classified as prime farmland.

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The comprehensive plan states on page 40, quote,

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The poorer soils are preferred development areas for the city where the land is able to adequately be served by public infrastructure, unquote.

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Our prime agricultural farmland is best used to grow food.

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Our third concern is the proximity of the area west of Highway 12 to skillet creek, puits nest state natural area, and ultimately the bearable river.

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The comprehensive plan states as a goal on page 48, quote,

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Prevent future problems associated with developing land to close to natural areas, drainage ways, and flood plains, unquote.

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Development here will produce volumes of run-off from roofs and impervious surfaces that could have potential impacts on sensitive ecological areas.

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Our fourth concern is the risk of urban sprawl.

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Our characteristic of urban sprawl is automobile dependency.

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Transportation from residential areas west of Highway 12 will be difficult via any means other than car.

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We should be encouraging walking and biking like the extremely popular river walk.

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A second characteristic of urban sprawl is strip development.

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Do we want to see a ribbon of residential and commercial properties on the west side of Highway 12 as we're beginning to see along the east side?

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Driving along Highway 12, you would be in a tunnel of development like the entrances to so many communities across our country.

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Bearable is unique being surrounded by rolling agricultural land in the bearable range.

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Let's maintain and enhance the quality of life that a landscape that that landscape inspires and contributes to by planning wisely, carefully,

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and with caution following the steps set out in the comprehensive plan created by the leaders that came before us.

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To do otherwise, there's too much at stake to do otherwise. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Samuel Pokenett, just next.

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I'm Sam Paul, since you're delivered to 18 second straight here in bearable.

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I speak in support of the mayor's position.

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When I talk about people I know, bring your make up a little bit.

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Thank you.

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When I talk to people I know who don't live here when I tell them what bearable is what makes bearable special is it has a vibrant downtown.

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You put that apartment complex west of the highway.

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To me, that takes away from it.

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You want to keep the downtown vibrant. You've got to have development closer to downtown, so people go there mostly.

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That development west of the highway, people are going to go to the businesses that are close to that development.

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We know what those businesses are. That's not the downtown business.

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The other aspect of it is bearable looks beautiful when you drive into it.

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You drive out of it going west. It's the most beautiful place when that development there will kill it.

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And once you lose the charm of bearable, that's it.

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It's difficult to get that back.

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We do need development. The world's going to change. We can't change that.

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But there's developments downtown and I think that's the way to go if you have to do it.

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It'll support the downtown. There's plenty of towns here in this state that do not have a vibrant downtown.

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We don't want to lose that. Thank you.

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Next up, we have Ryan divine.

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Ryan divine, 701 wallnut street.

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I grew up my whole life in bearable. I watched a lot of things change.

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I personally spend a lot of time on the bearer,

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I enjoy enjoying it, enjoying the beauty of this town.

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I have a couple questions for the city council that I would ask you to think about when it comes to the

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Oak Street development.

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The $3.5 million dollars. I know a lot of it comes from grants,

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but how much of it exactly does.

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What is the exact purpose of the project assigned from the safety I understand that?

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How much created parking would we get out of it?

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As people move to this community and become more and more popular,

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I think we all understand that parking is a situation in bearable.

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And how does this project benefit the citizens of bearable?

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Is it something that we need or is it something that we think we want?

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I just feel like if we can get grants for things in this city that maybe we could get grants for things that might

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matter benefit not only the citizens of bearable,

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but the tourists that come into this town. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next up we have Todd Persie.

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My name is Todd Persie. I live at South 6674 Freedom Road in the town of Freedom.

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I am the director for the bearable range preservation association.

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We are a local land trust working throughout the Bluffs as well as in this city.

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Our office is in the Civic Center and we have close to 350 members.

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The great majority of them live pretty close to here.

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Our mission is and has always been to preserve and protect the qualities and culture of the bearable range,

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which you've heard expressed here at the night.

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I had a lot of things I was going to say.

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For interest of not repeating them, I will not mention them.

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I will mention that our group formed 30 years ago exactly because of this urban sprawl issue.

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We don't want to look like everybody else.

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We have biological treasure in those hills.

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We've done an awesome job.

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I would say on the township level at the county level in the city level,

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we've done a nice job of interfacing development with the wild places.

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I think up into this point I've been pretty happy with it.

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I'm here tonight to support Mayor Robbs' recent veto-the-plant subdivision,

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but I really have a bigger issue that I would like to address with you folks.

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I don't recognize your process often for bringing these development proposals up anymore.

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I don't recognize some of the stuff that happens in close session.

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In our 30 years, if working with planning and zoning,

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you've pretty much had open processes.

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You've involved the public.

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You've gone out of the way to involve the public.

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I would really love it if you could return to that.

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Also, many members in our group that have talked about making variable,

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livable, walkable, greener community.

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It's in your resolutions.

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You have that sitting somewhere in your charters.

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I would love to see you return and think more about those situations.

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Another thing some people have brought up is the urban spa we see.

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Now, it is a reminder of the 1980s and 1990s.

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But with this caveat, we now know that climate change is a major problem.

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I mean, what is today?

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Valentine's Day, my neighbor's sap is running in their maple trees.

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The yard is green and my yard.

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That never used to happen.

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Building things that bring more cars and more trips to the area,

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it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

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And we haven't done it yet.

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We still haven't opportunity to back off on that.

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The other thing that bothers me is technically a lot of the process that goes on.

439
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
It is legal, but I have some.

440
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,000
It just feels like ethical irresponsibility to not try more and more to reach out to the public.

441
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
It's great to see the newspaper here.

442
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000
But if Rob, if you had not vetoed this process,

443
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
I would have had no idea that this was even going on.

444
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
I will have you start right at the paper.

445
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
It starts to wrap it up here.

446
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
I'm just letting you know that that's my main thing.

447
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000
So the last meeting we were at, we were talking about annexing something.

448
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Brian Hazard had a great idea to just pause, put all these things kind of on the table

449
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000
and come up with your comprehensive plan to just take it easy.

450
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000
I'll ask you to do that, sir.

451
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000
All right.

452
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Thanks, brother.

453
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
James O'Neill is next.

454
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Thank you.

455
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
I'm James O'Neill, a live at 923 Manchester Street in Barable.

456
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
I agree with the mayor's veto.

457
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
I want you to uphold the veto.

458
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,000
And I won't repeat the very many eloquent arguments that have been given to you,

459
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,000
but I just want you to know that I would like you to uphold that veto.

460
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Thank you.

461
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Thank you.

462
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Next up is Wayne Muffet.

463
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Good evening, my name is Wayne Muffet.

464
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000
I live at 219 Street.

465
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,000
I'm a partner in a law firm that's been in Barable for 130 years.

466
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,000
I've only been with the firm a small number of those years.

467
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Now my partner Jerome's been there longer,

468
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:48,000
but it's been my privilege over the years to represent a number of municipalities

469
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
and governmental entities, including towns.

470
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:57,000
I'm here to also support Mayor Nelson's veto of the bill,

471
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
and for the reasons that were stated.

472
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:07,000
However, my main reason to be here tonight is to voice my objection to the process

473
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,000
that was followed here because I disagree with my friend Todd Pershe.

474
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:19,000
I don't think the city abided by the law when it passed this resolution last month.

475
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,000
And specifically, the open meeting law.

476
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:30,000
In 1976, Wisconsin passed what were called Wisconsin Sunshine Laws,

477
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
which included the open meeting law.

478
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
When it passed that law, it said, the legislature,

479
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
quote, it is declared to be the policy of this state

480
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:48,000
that the public is entitled to the fullest and most complete information regarding the affairs of government

481
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,000
as is compatible with the conduct of governmental business.

482
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Now, with regard to meetings, the law says today,

483
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,000
at any meeting of a governmental body, all discussion shall be held

484
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,000
in all action of any kind, formal or informal, shall be initiated,

485
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,000
deliberated upon and acted upon only an open session,

486
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,000
except as provided in section 19.85.

487
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Now, I looked at the agenda last month when this was passed

488
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:35,000
and item 16 says, closed session under 19.85 per and one per and e

489
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000
to review the terms and conditions of a proposed development agreement

490
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
with respect to spirit late.

491
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Now, 19.85 per and one per and e is an exemption to the rule

492
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,000
that you have to discuss and deliberate everything in open session.

493
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,000
What that's exemption says is that you may go into closed session

494
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000
for deliberating or negotiating the purchasing of public properties,

495
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,000
the investing of public funds or conducting other specified public business

496
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,000
whenever competitive or bargaining reasons required a closed session.

497
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Well, have you start wrapping up your way?

498
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Okay. The point is there was already a deal.

499
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
There was no negotiating to be done.

500
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
That was not an applicable exemption last month.

501
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,000
You can't have a deal done and then go in the closed session and discuss it.

502
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000
All right. Thank you.

503
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Okay. Thank you.

504
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Let's up his time.

505
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Craig O.

506
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Thank you.

507
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:58,000
I'm here to support the veto of Mayor Nelson of the spirit late proposal.

508
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,000
And I have to say that I agree with all the great points that the previous speakers

509
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,000
supporting that veto have stated tonight.

510
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:14,000
I'd also like to acknowledge that Mayor Nelson made several excellent points.

511
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Any single which one would be enough to reverse the vote of the city council.

512
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,000
But I'd like to make a couple of other points that other speakers haven't made.

513
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,000
There was an argument made that this is needed for the tax base.

514
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,000
And I'm going to read some comments here to try to keep on time.

515
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:47,000
But it was shown a long time ago that a town city or village cannot grow itself out of property tax.

516
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:57,000
If that was possible, there should be no property tax in large cities such as Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York.

517
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
I have friends that own property in a couple of...

518
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,000
All of those cities, Madison and Milwaukee. And they think their property taxes are too high. And that's because, every time you add growth, you add expenses that offset any income that is added. The other problem that you have is that a tax incremental finance district is a mechanism by which local governments can also engage in corporate welfare.

519
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Every tax incremental finance district causes a wealth and income distribution from outside of that tiff district to inside that tiff district.

520
00:45:46,000 --> 00:46:15,000
So if you build a house in a township, not only do you expect a pay for the cost of your well, your septic system, your driveway, and you will pay your property taxes to pay for the expenses of your township, of your school district, of the county, the vocational technical school, and you will have already paid for all of this infrastructure outside of your property taxes.

521
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:34,000
So you are paying for the infrastructure that's already there. In too many tax incremental finance districts, most of your property taxes that you pay for 25 years, just goes to pay for the infrastructure that sort of like the septic system, etc.

522
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:58,000
We'll have you start wrapping up your town or almost at a time. Okay, so there's no good economic advantage for doing this development and especially doing it with a tax incremental finance district. So again, I urge you to uphold the mayor's veto and and take another look at this in a more open way. Thank you.

523
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Next up is Jennifer Stewart.

524
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Hello, I'm Jennifer Stewart. I live at 1618 Elgonquin Drive in Baribu. My husband Bruce spoke previously and as he remarked, we both share the points that he shared with you.

525
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:43,000
And so I registered to speak to also just provide our personal endorsement of keeping development in Baribu condensed and focused on areas that are already slated for development.

526
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:53,000
We came to this town because I fell in love with it in 1993 and I convinced a packer fan to move from green bay.

527
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:02,000
We've left twice and keep coming back because we love it so much and we'll likely stay for a long time.

528
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:23,000
We have raised a child here, we're involved with community activities and so we do want to continue to stay here and that what's important to us is that rural character surrounding the town and a vibrant town and so appreciate your support of

529
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Mayor Nelson's veto and not developing especially west of Highway 12.

530
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Thank you for your service. I used to work for university extension especially supporting local municipalities and Stevens Point and I know how much time you invest in our community and I appreciate it. Thank you.

531
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,000
And that brings up Patrick listed.

532
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Good evening. My name is Pat List and I live at 1013 Manchester Street in city of Baribu and I'm not going to echo all of really good arguments I heard tonight about sustaining the mayor's veto but I certainly hope you do that.

533
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:21,000
There's a number of concerns I have. One you haven't had a updated comprehensive plans since 2005.

534
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:31,000
I mean and so you're building any available piece of land you've just pungent down something and you have no basis for doing it.

535
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000
You don't look at the impact on schools. I mean there's all kinds of issues that you have not looked at.

536
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:47,000
The other thing I'm concerned about is a lack of transparency. Since the last year and a half you folks have done a lot of stuff in secret.

537
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,000
And I think that's wrong. I don't know if it's legal or not.

538
00:49:51,000 --> 00:50:02,000
I'll let the attorneys deal with that. But if it's legal or not it's definitely wrong. You need to invite the public to further input.

539
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:12,000
I mean you represent 13,000 other people. And they have the right to have their say so. Thank you.

540
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
Thank you.

541
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,000
And I believe that's everyone who wanted to speak. Is that correct? Anybody else who wanted to address council?

542
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,000
All right. Thank you all.

543
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Moving on. Mayors business. Just a couple of election related things tonight. The spring primary is scheduled for Tuesday February 21st.

544
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:40,000
All city of Arab we residents vote at the Civic Center and the polls will be open from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.

545
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:51,000
If you want to vote early in person absentee voting is available at the clerk's office here in the Civic Center during business hours up until Friday February 17.

546
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Okay. Thank you. And that takes us to consent.

547
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Item one is approved the accounts payable to be paid in the amount of $6,795,977 in 64 cents.

548
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:15,000
And item two is approved the temporary alcohol license application for downtown Baribu, Bruhaha March 10, 2023.

549
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Oh, sure. Pro. But again.

550
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Second.

551
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,000
We have motion in a second to approve consent agenda, which you please call the roll.

552
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Sloan.

553
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Here's it.

554
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
There we go.

555
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000
All right.

556
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Cool.

557
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Hazard.

558
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,000
Kent.

559
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Petty.

560
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Ellington.

561
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Consent passes unanimously. Thank you.

562
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Item 11 ordinances on second reading 11.1.

563
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Consider approving the annexation of certain lands in the town of Baribu to the city of Baribu.

564
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:56,000
This was passed in the first reading at our last meeting. Does anyone need a refresher on this item?

565
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Motion to approve.

566
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Petty.

567
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,000
Second.

568
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,000
All right. We have a motion in the second to approve the annexation of certain lands into the city of Baribu.

569
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Any further discussion on the motion?

570
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,000
I'd like to make a statement.

571
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,000
I express some concerns about the annexation in the first meeting.

572
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
And some of those I won't.

573
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,000
I won't bother repeating some of that, but it was a preference for infant projects.

574
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,000
It was concerned about what impact this would have on double slate state park.

575
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,000
And some of the early ideas that were floated were somewhat unappealing.

576
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:39,000
I also mentioned the irregular boundaries between the city and the township.

577
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,000
And I remember in the past that mayor, Mayor Listen at that time.

578
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:51,000
He was trying to straighten out those boundaries so that we could do more infant projects and stuff.

579
00:52:51,000 --> 00:53:02,000
I think that the other other side of that is that the positive points of annexation

580
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:12,000
is that the city would be in control of those properties and could provide extensive review of any potential development out there.

581
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:20,000
I like the idea of southeast residential development, but the rest seems kind of undefined.

582
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,000
Our outdated comprehensive plan, which we still rely on,

583
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:31,000
says that the city ultimately would like to see this area and that's the area around Devils Lake State Park.

584
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Incorporated into the city property.

585
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:48,000
I've had the opportunity to meet with two of the owners out there who have stated that their intent is to have a high quality development that would appeal to bearable residents.

586
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000
I believe that there's some sereness, however.

587
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:59,000
Our outdated comprehensive plan does say that premature development should not be promoted in a quote.

588
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:08,000
It is a direction of this plan that a separate detailed planning process be followed that employees meaningful public participation.

589
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:27,000
And with that in mind if the owners and by extension any potential developer that they hire would commit to engage the public in a transparent matter through open forums involving city residents, business entities, civic groups on.

590
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:35,000
On the record, I would be willing to change my no vote that I originally cast.

591
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,000
So I guess I would ask Greg McArthur.

592
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,000
I mean, you've been the spokesman of the group.

593
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:52,000
Greg McArthur, I did have a chance to talk to some of you.

594
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,000
And I'm very productive conversations I learned a lot.

595
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:01,000
I mean, I learned what we needed to do a better job with communication to the public communication to you.

596
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,000
And I also learned today speaking to Jason that there's committees.

597
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Committees can have a play of big role here too.

598
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:15,000
So what I did tonight is I invited Bill Ryan from ADCI to give a just a brief overview.

599
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Five years ago we started working with Bill Bill came up with a plan that got us excited something that we thought we could be very proud of as a bearable residents to do the right thing with that property.

600
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,000
If you look at the property now, it's kind of a mess and it needs to get cleaned up.

601
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
So Bill, I'd like you to just come up and before you do that, right.

602
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Yeah, could I ask a question.

603
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Our you was a group committed both you and any developers you hired, you know, to conduct a transparent review, you know, involving city residents business partners.

604
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Absolutely.

605
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Absolutely.

606
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,000
And I think what's most important with that is you, you have to be transparent.

607
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Otherwise you waste time.

608
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:09,000
If we bring something if we spend a lot of money or a developer spends a lot of money to bring a plan to the table and it gets shot down because you haven't seen and we surprise you with it.

609
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Which by the way, I apologize for that that book that I gave you because I think there was some assumptions that that's just what we're going to do.

610
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000
No, that's just a vision plan. So you absolutely.

611
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,000
I mean, I think that's most important.

612
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
You know, in business, you work with your people, you work with your team.

613
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000
I think this whole community's a team needs to be.

614
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,000
So thank you.

615
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,000
I keep this very brief because I know it's getting long tonight.

616
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:42,000
I'm Bill Ryan with Architectural Design Consultant's ADCI and we're the architect working with Greg in this partnership.

617
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:51,000
And I'm not sure I can express more enthusiasm for the idea of annexation and be in part of the city of bear within the great camp, but I'll do my best.

618
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Tonight we've heard some comments about keep bearable special.

619
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,000
That's exactly what Greg and his partnership team really want to do.

620
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Devil's Lake is precious to the city of bearable.

621
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Precious to Saw County.

622
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:13,000
And when we designed for Randy Scott, the tumble rock restaurant brewery out there.

623
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:20,000
Randy Scott wanted that to be a very enhanced addition to the gateway of Devil's Lake.

624
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,000
And we want to do no less as we continue to clean up some of the property that Greg has out there.

625
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,000
As you know, it could certainly use some improvement.

626
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,000
And that's what this whole development idea is about.

627
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,000
We're looking to not put as much density as we possibly can.

628
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:43,000
The whole development, we work with developers that would put significant property on that land.

629
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000
This is not what they're out to do.

630
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,000
They're not out to see how much they can fit on there.

631
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,000
They're out there to see what they can provide.

632
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,000
That's really nice for the entrance of Devil's Lake.

633
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,000
I look at it from my perspective when I listen to what they want to do.

634
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,000
When my children and my grandchildren go to Devil's Lake, they can't.

635
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
They go get a tent, they sleep on the ground.

636
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,000
That's not me.

637
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,000
I'm not doing that anymore.

638
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,000
We might be able to create a housing development.

639
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:17,000
A rental community or a small boutique hotel or whatever we do out there.

640
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,000
To create somebody like myself coming out to that area.

641
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:28,000
And staying in that building and then going out and joining my grandkids and my son and daughter.

642
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,000
So on out there as part of the Devil's Lake experience.

643
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:38,000
So I think by doing the right thing out there, whatever that comprehensive plan submission will be later on,

644
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,000
we'll show you that what we're trying to do out there is the right thing.

645
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,000
And I'm here to answer any questions if you have any.

646
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,000
I'm happy to answer.

647
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000
But keep in mind, this isn't such early stages.

648
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,000
We're really here about annexation.

649
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,000
We're really not here to circumvent any open meetings.

650
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Any questions from Mr. Ryan?

651
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Thank you.

652
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Thank you.

653
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Thank you.

654
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,000
All right.

655
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,000
I think we do.

656
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Do we have a motion in the second on the floor?

657
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,000
Is that correct?

658
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,000
We do.

659
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,000
Is there any other discussion on the motion to approve the annexation?

660
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,000
All right.

661
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Hearing none, please call the roll.

662
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Here's it.

663
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000
There we go.

664
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,000
We do good.

665
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,000
All right.

666
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,000
Cole.

667
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,000
How's it?

668
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,000
All right.

669
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Kent.

670
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,000
Petty.

671
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,000
All right.

672
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,000
Helington.

673
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Sloan.

674
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,000
All right.

675
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,000
Motion passes unanimously.

676
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
Thank you.

677
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
On to new business.

678
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,000
12.1.

679
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,000
Development agreement with spirit late consideration of the mayor's veto of the council.

680
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,000
January 24th approval of the spirit late development agreement.

681
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000
I believe everybody got a copy of the memo.

682
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000
I should have a couple weeks ago.

683
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,000
Mayor did we skip 10.2.

684
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,000
There was not consent. Oh, okay. We just did 11.1 and now thank you. Now we're on 12.1.

685
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:22,000
So as always saying, I believe everybody got a memo of the reasons that I issued the veto and I don't feel like I need to go over those again unless somebody wants me to, but I don't. I don't think I do.

686
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,000
I think everyone also should have gotten a letter from the developers, which I believe was yesterday's that right.

687
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:33,000
With with some of their additional information in that.

688
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:38,000
So I guess I will open it up for discussion if you can't.

689
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,000
Travis come up and discuss his letter.

690
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,000
Would you like to say anything to Council?

691
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Sure. Thank you.

692
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
All right.

693
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,000
I appreciate the time there and my name is Travis Zick.

694
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,000
I am apparently I'm the only one of Spirit Lake who doesn't have good Valentine's plan.

695
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,000
So I get to, I get to be here tonight. No, I'm just kidding.

696
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
I appreciate the time and the opportunity to come in.

697
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:11,000
I listened and I respect everyone's opinions and every comment that's been made.

698
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:17,000
I think it's part of what makes bearable so great is that we do have a diverse, you know, diverse outlook, a diverse group of people here.

699
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,000
I've been a bearable resident my entire life with the exception of college.

700
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Up until a year and a half ago when I became an empty nest,

701
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,000
and moved to Marmach to downsize.

702
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,000
But I was raised in this community. I love this community.

703
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,000
It's been our intention.

704
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,000
We bought this property in 2005 from Sheriff Mike Spencer.

705
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:42,000
It's been our intention all along to some day put together a high quality,

706
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:52,000
gateway type development that the community will be proud of and that people will be attracted to when they come into town as the entryway to bearable.

707
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,000
We've been working on this project for a year and a half.

708
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:07,000
We've been working very closely for the past year to try to put together and answer some legitimate concerns and legitimate questions that have come up along the way.

709
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:13,000
And I feel like we've put together a project that is a tremendous and will be a tremendous asset to bearable.

710
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:18,000
I think it hits on some areas that are desperately in need in the community.

711
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Obviously, the big one being housing.

712
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,000
You all had a housing study done, saw county did a housing study a few years ago.

713
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,000
We paid for our own study to be done before we even started down this path and they all say the same thing.

714
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:36,000
There's a drastic shortage in bearable, especially in rental units.

715
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,000
You've heard commentary about the tax base and the need to grow.

716
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Obviously, commercial is also an area where bearable needs some additional sites.

717
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:56,000
Just to be honest, there's very little to nothing that's affordable for a commercial business look into come here.

718
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,000
And that's why we haven't seen much for a long long time.

719
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,000
This site will offer some of those opportunities as well.

720
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:10,000
But I want to make clear, as Bill said, you know, this is work early on in this process as well.

721
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:24,000
So as interest comes along for businesses or for commercial development out there, we want to work with the city to make sure that it's the right businesses that it's the right type of buildings that are going up out there.

722
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,000
The type of thing that again is going to be attractive to people.

723
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,000
And the last thing I want to say is, again, I've lived here my whole life.

724
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,000
I love so much of what bearable brings.

725
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,000
And we have a tremendous amount of assets here.

726
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,000
The river is a tremendous asset.

727
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Downtown bearable is a tremendous asset.

728
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,000
Devils Lake is a tremendous asset.

729
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
And the bypass is a tremendous asset.

730
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,000
And they don't have to compete.

731
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,000
They all bring their own appeal.

732
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,000
They all bring their own positives and they all attract people to the area.

733
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,000
The area in front of our property has the highest traffic count anywhere in the city of bearable.

734
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000
That is appealing.

735
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:09,000
That brings the type of businesses, the type of people, you know, the type of facilities that we want out there.

736
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,000
And again, I understand some of the concerns that have been raised.

737
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,000
And I appreciate everybody coming out tonight to share their thoughts.

738
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,000
Man, I just hope that you all see.

739
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,000
And I hope you had a chance to read through the information I sent.

740
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
The positives that come along with this project.

741
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:31,000
And that you'll again vote as you did last month to pass it on.

742
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,000
Thank you.

743
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,000
Thank you.

744
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:38,000
Jake, did you have something you wanted to say as well?

745
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Not much.

746
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,000
I just kind of want to reiterate what Travis said.

747
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000
And one of the things that Council in the city for crafting.

748
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,000
What I think is a great development agreement.

749
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,000
I'm sorry.

750
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,000
I'm Jake Buswell.

751
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,000
One of the developers of the multi-family.

752
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:58,000
I'll just I'll just I'll just I'll just say we will build a nice property a aesthetically

753
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
pleasing property.

754
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,000
It's kind of designed after one of our other properties off of highway 53 in on Alaska.

755
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,000
It'll look very similar.

756
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,000
It'll be an attractive building and buildings and.

757
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Yeah, just want to thank you for the opportunity to come up and speak today.

758
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:21,960
today and I think the city has that demand and supply report on their website and that really

759
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:28,040
outlines the stark shortage of supply in this area and we sought firsthand with our rapid

760
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:35,080
river development. That property, we had all the deposits down five months before we had full

761
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:42,520
occupancy on the building and I've heard that the Greenfield State has similar demand. I've seen

762
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:48,520
some similar demand over the last few years. It's really all I have to add. It will be a nice

763
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,720
walkable property as well. I drove by on the way here. There's a sidewalk that connects from this

764
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:59,880
property already to the town. You can literally walk to Walmart within a couple minutes.

765
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,400
Yeah, I guess that's really all I had. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Jake.

766
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,120
We appear to have lost all of them flown again and trying to pick them back up.

767
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:22,200
Back with us, okay. All right. I like to comment there. I'll go ahead and go ahead and

768
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,480
hold first hand down the road to get things started if other council members chooses to participate.

769
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,200
First of all, thank you all for being here. This is like the largest crowd I've seen in the gallery

770
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:38,600
since we were looking about urban chickens. It was a packed house. There's a hot topic. So yeah,

771
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:47,000
we got a big fan. So we got urban chickens. I am an extreme pragmatist, but I'm also a person that

772
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,720
does a lot of research and a lot of homework. And I did read the mayor's memo several times.

773
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:59,000
I also, hey Joel, could you just maybe speak up a little bit so we'll make sure that's gotten

774
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,080
every time. I'll put this up closer to me that probably. I did read the mayor's

775
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:10,360
memo several times. I also am kind of dove tailed off, power up there who and they sent a little

776
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:18,280
thing out encouraging people to come and speak and support the mayor's veto. I also read

777
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,200
information from spirit lake and I'd rather do all the design and all that stuff. But they said it's

778
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:33,720
an information too. I also read the 178 page smart growth comprehensive plan from 2005.

779
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:43,560
I also reviewed the 2018 housing study by Saw County Economic Development Corporation.

780
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:53,640
And a couple of things in regards to the smart growth from 2005, reading that is a, it is a

781
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:03,640
document of mere many paradoxes. It is an antiquated document. It is an old document from 2005.

782
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:12,840
July, like people had said, also the forecasts and trends were used off the 2000 census and data,

783
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:20,200
which means that data is 23 years old. The smart growth is 18 years old. The projections are not

784
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,280
accurate and I know people working from a crystal ball at that time. The hopes and dreams of

785
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:33,160
variable in 2005 were redeveloped the water street riverfront area, promote historic downtown square,

786
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:41,160
enhanced community entryways, tourism, and also to encourage greater public involvement in community

787
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,840
planning. But it doesn't say what encourages, there's no definition in there about it. So as that

788
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:51,960
encourage me, you put something in the paper, whatever. So I'm saying that document is full of

789
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:58,360
paradoxes. Another part of that is expanding recreational areas development of the ICH trail,

790
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:05,960
nurture small businesses, preserve and enhance the surrounding natural environment. It doesn't define

791
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:11,800
what that is. So when people are talking about these outlying areas and protecting this in that,

792
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:17,800
the comprehensive plan doesn't say what that is. That's really, every one of us in this room.

793
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:22,760
That's our lens that we look through and we decide what that is based on our own personal preferences

794
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:29,960
and how we see the work. Housing. It also said that the city should explore new ways of ensuring

795
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:35,000
a mix of housing types and affordable levels, especially to meet the demands of first-time home owners,

796
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,600
seniors, it mentions nothing about transitional housing and mobility housing, short-term housing.

797
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,400
There's no mention in the comprehensive plan about that. So where are those folks love?

798
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,040
I've got a story I'm going to tell you a little bit later because I'm going to,

799
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:53,160
back at three minutes are longer. All right. I'm going to be quite, I'm going to say longer.

800
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:59,960
I'm going to be, I'm going to be concise. What I also said in 2005 is the city of bearable

801
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:05,800
has a very good supply of housing available. So it's the city of bearable who have the very good housing

802
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:12,920
supply available now. Again, we've got a bunch of paradoxes working here. Consider the school board

803
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,840
members being involved in plant commission. Do we have any school board members on plant commission?

804
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,240
I don't know if we do. It was brought up earlier that when we talk about developments,

805
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,880
do we have the school involved? Well, we do. School members are involved. School board members are

806
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:31,000
involved in looking at developments and projecting out populations of potential school children.

807
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:42,760
Economic development. The city should not subsidize development. There's not a development

808
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:49,640
that I've been involved with that the city is not subsidized. Okay. Moreover, the business community

809
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:55,480
would like to see greater consensus at the council level regarding decision making. It is believed

810
01:10:55,480 --> 01:11:01,880
that there is rarely a clear voice of the elected officials. The previous vote for this was eight to zero.

811
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:11,560
Video preference survey in 2004, they used the slide projected to show different cities and

812
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:17,160
stuff. How many of you are currently using a slide projector? You know, we just you don't see those

813
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:25,160
sorts of things. Growth all turned into two page 34. Features growth opportunity that continues in recent

814
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:31,160
development trends and provides more land for employment, shopping, and anticipating development

815
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:40,040
stimulated by the proposed bypass project. Plan neighborhood areas. It should be noted that traditional

816
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:46,040
neighborhood plans different from types of land use such as single multi-family residences are not

817
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:55,160
random but located in a logical reasonable manner. And that is not the fine folks as to what that actually

818
01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:05,480
is. Come on, what's that? The 2018 South County economic development corporation housing study.

819
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:12,440
The number one challenge for hiring the workforce in the city of bearable for major employers is the

820
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:20,360
inability for them to find housing and bearable. Plan amendments, appropriate plan amendments to the

821
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:26,920
smart growth comprehensive plan is becoming if it becomes irrelevant or contradictory to

822
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:34,440
emergency policy or trends in the city should be evaluated every three years or sooner. And we have not

823
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:44,360
done that. Shame on us. And some of our predecessors. So 39 years ago, I took a job with the

824
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:49,400
South County Social Services, which is now human services. I took a job as a child protective

825
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:55,240
services so to work for doing abuse neglect, investigations of children, and I'm going case management.

826
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:02,280
I came to bearable, got off for the job, and came up for two weeks to look for a place that I could stay

827
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:10,840
in bearable. I could not find a place suitable 39 years ago for me to live in bearable. I got an apartment

828
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:16,200
in low-income housing at Howard Woods in Portage and lived there for six months until a coworker of

829
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:21,480
mindset, hey, we're kicking out some pot heads out of our dueplex. You and your wife on a move in there?

830
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,000
I said absolutely, I can't find another place to live. And we live there for two years until we bought our

831
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:36,200
starter house at 329 second avenue where we still live this day in our starter house. So again, when we

832
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:43,480
look at these things, through our different lenses, in short, I'm not supportive of the veto.

833
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:51,000
As far as urban sprogos, I took a couple of drives today, just like my plots. I drove up T,

834
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,080
drove from Sullivan's to up to my enrol, where that housing development is. What's in front of it is

835
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:03,240
the enormous cornfield, what's behind it is wooded area, and then my enrol. Please tell me what's

836
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:08,760
different about that. It's the same distance I drove it today. I actually got out of my car. I drove

837
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,560
down on the bypass twice. Once down, once back, to look at this land, then I drove to where that

838
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:18,760
substation has parked my car and got out and looked around. I bite by at least once a week during

839
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:24,920
biking season. I think that it's a good fit. I think it's going to provide housing that's desperately

840
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:31,000
needed. And I think the city has the infrastructure to maintain it. I do not feel like the touch

841
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,520
from the city is a matter of fact. I feel it's a segue. In future development is going to occur.

842
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:42,840
I do understand people's concerns. I appreciate those concerns. But I'm also here to provide my

843
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,960
perspective and my point of view from the research and the homework that I've done. And also,

844
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:54,680
you know, having a 35-year career at Human Services, no, that. In the winter times, we have some families,

845
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:59,000
they'll stay three days in Devils Lake, they gotta get out, and then they go over to Mirror Lake to

846
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,000
stay three days in.

847
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Go back and forth because they can't find a place to live. So think about those things when you're thinking about the big picture, the city of bearable. It's a lot of people, it's a lot of things to consider, but I am going to oppose the mayor's veto based on that information that I've obtained. So thank you for your time.

848
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Thank you, Joe. Anybody else want to go ahead?

849
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:35,000
Yeah, great. Okay. A couple things that I liked. One is that Travis also doesn't have any Valentine's Day.

850
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:47,000
And the other thing is I appreciate the effort that Casey has put in on this on this development.

851
01:15:47,000 --> 01:16:09,000
The problem is that I had nine calls all in the last three or four days all opposing this development. That's probably six more calls that I've had in the entire 14 years I've been on city council.

852
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:22,000
To me, when I think of a neighborhood, I think of a place where people can walk or bike easily to grocery stores, schools, libraries, churches and gauges and civic amenities.

853
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:37,000
And I think this development will certainly have the green space and the walking paths and it easy access to the highway, but little else of what I consider a vital neighborhood project.

854
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:51,000
We were talking about the comprehensive plan 175 pages. I got to about 90 pages of my eyes went blank.

855
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,000
I didn't three settings to be quite honest. I did not do it in one.

856
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,000
It's a bit of a dry, really, to be quite honest.

857
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:05,000
But it speaks to the vision of the participants and the quality of life issues.

858
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Saying that the city quote should develop plans that encourage neighborhoods with parks, tree sidewalks and safe and adequate connections of these neighborhoods to the city amenities.

859
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:22,000
I don't see that in this project. I don't see it connected to other neighborhoods quite frankly.

860
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:34,000
This project I feel encourages more of a commuter neighborhood where residents have little social or cultural connection to the city.

861
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:40,000
I'm not going to go through what Rob has already mentioned page 38.

862
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:48,000
Of course talks about the accelerated peripheral areas such as this one.

863
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:59,000
And suggested at some point we go west of highway 12 bypass at the city engage in meaningful participation, which I think thanks to Mayor's veto.

864
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,000
We finally have had that civic engagement.

865
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:17,000
The problem that I also have with this is that designated school for the youngsters would be North Freedom School, which is quite a hike from from Baribu.

866
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:26,000
The other part that bothers me somewhat is two of the projects that are two of the commercial entities that we've talked about.

867
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:38,000
I have to do with what I would call heavy commercial rather than you know grocery stores and dry bins and truck truck truck traffic.

868
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:50,000
And there's a single in this project there's a single egress to county W and so when you have 240 apartments.

869
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,000
Plus commercial.

870
01:18:52,000 --> 01:19:02,000
A development which includes some heavy truck traffic sharing an egress with other vehicles to a small county road.

871
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,000
It creates what seems to me a public safety issue.

872
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,000
So those are my thoughts.

873
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,000
Thank you Tom.

874
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000
Brian.

875
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Good.

876
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,000
Good.

877
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,000
I agree with a lot of what Tom said.

878
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:27,000
I was one of the ones who voted yes to the last meeting and since then I got educated.

879
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:33,000
Not only with the Mayor's men, Mel and other things I looked into and heard about.

880
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:40,000
Like Tom I got many contacts from my constituents who were all against this development.

881
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:46,000
I believe we should wait until that comprehensive plan gets redone.

882
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Once that thing is is it's on our agenda.

883
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,000
I know to do it the next year correct.

884
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:57,000
Yeah once we have a new comprehensive plan then maybe we could revisit this.

885
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,000
And decide if this is a good idea or not.

886
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,000
But as of tonight I'm not in favor of it.

887
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,000
I agree with your veto.

888
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,000
Thank you.

889
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,000
Thank you.

890
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,000
Please.

891
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,000
We don't.

892
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Thank you.

893
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Okay.

894
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,000
Go ahead.

895
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,000
Jason.

896
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:24,000
So yeah this this I I appreciate all the all the community involvement tonight.

897
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:31,000
This is a very hard decision because there's there's there's a bunch of different views on this.

898
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,000
Joel made some very good comments and so to dress.

899
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,000
Housing is needed.

900
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:42,000
I was on the fence when I voted the last time we voted on this and I'm still on the fence to be quite honest.

901
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,000
I've gotten calls as well.

902
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,000
I agree with what you're saying.

903
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000
Brian and and and Tom.

904
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
It's not just about the comprehensive plan.

905
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,000
I think what Joel read from the comprehensive plan.

906
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,000
I'm glad he read it and I didn't have to redo it.

907
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Is community involvement engagement.

908
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,000
Mr. Muffa made a very good a very good comment.

909
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:22,000
I have said this a number of times that I think that things get fast tracked on in the sake of money or they need to get done right away.

910
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,000
And that what that does is that the scourges community involvement.

911
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:34,000
It it lacks transparency and it lacks community engagement.

912
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:40,000
And by by not having that we have this we have a lot of people who.

913
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,000
One either don't have all the information or don't understand why we're doing something.

914
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:51,000
The Joel's point you know the question the comments were made about our schools involved.

915
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:58,000
So yes I think they are I think the case he does a good job involved involving the school district and community community back and forth.

916
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,000
But it's pretty obvious that the rest of the people in this room don't know what that process is.

917
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:12,000
That's wrong. That's wrong and I sit here on a regular basis in this in this seat and question what I'm actually approving or voting for.

918
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,000
And the reason for that is is because we load up the agenda.

919
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:21,000
And we sit here and we have to go through the agenda and then all of a sudden it's a vote.

920
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:27,000
It's a vote for what and afterwards I kind of found myself going what one of my voting for.

921
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:32,000
I got a lot of information coming at me every week and I think everybody here does too.

922
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:38,000
So with with the information that we have I think we're more informed tonight.

923
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,000
I think you possibly could see people switched their vote but.

924
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,000
But I do think we need to have a comprehensive.

925
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:49,000
A comprehensive plan is developed with community involvement and that's my take on this whole situation.

926
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,000
So that's all I have to say.

927
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,000
Thank you Jason.

928
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,000
Anyone else who would like to.

929
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,000
Wait a minute or questions.

930
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:08,000
Scott are you still with us.

931
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:18,000
Okay. Did you have anything just want to make sure you're getting an opportunity if there's anything you wanted to say as well.

932
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,000
Sorry. Could you say.

933
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,000
Okay. Doesn't have anything to add. Okay. Thank you.

934
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Yeah, I have we came to bear who in 1968.

935
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:35,000
And I as a vocal music teacher and my wife is school nurse.

936
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:39,000
We had one child in another child on the way.

937
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,000
And we had to live in.

938
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,000
Out in.

939
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,000
And the. The cabins out on.

940
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,000
I don't know.

941
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,000
I don't know what's bear was there no longer there.

942
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,000
Because there is absolutely no.

943
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,000
Zero housing.

944
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:59,000
We stumbled on Bob Miller who got a house.

945
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,000
And he was he was a remodeling it.

946
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,000
And he said he'd rent it to us.

947
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:10,000
So we put all our stuff in his garage and went out to.

948
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:15,000
And then came to get our stuff out of the garage and move in the house and.

949
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:20,000
He had used our bed slats for the for some of his laborers in the house.

950
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,000
So anyway.

951
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000
There was and that.

952
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,000
You know, I back Joel with it.

953
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,000
It's been a year after year there.

954
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,000
There's the no housing.

955
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,000
And people come.

956
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Where am I going to live?

957
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,000
So they're not going to come here to work.

958
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,000
It's just seems to me.

959
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,000
I understand my wife is concerned about few is nests.

960
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,000
Because that's one of her favorite places to walk.

961
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,000
And she goes there least once a month during the summer.

962
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,000
I'm not twice.

963
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,000
And he was concerned about.

964
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,000
People is nests in as I understand trevists.

965
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,000
Comments.

966
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,000
That should not be.

967
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:13,000
I think we do have a pond there to help with that.

968
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,000
So.

969
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,000
You know, I look at tea out of tea.

970
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,000
That's that's not connected to bearable.

971
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:30,000
It's you can't walk from tea to downtown bearable.

972
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,000
So we already have it.

973
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,000
And I, I just don't understand.

974
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,000
The, I understand.

975
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,000
I appreciate everybody's comments very much.

976
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:48,000
But I don't understand that we, we have what they're saying that we don't need.

977
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
We already have it.

978
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,000
And it, it's, it keeps going away from bearable.

979
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,000
This won't go away from bearable.

980
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:02,000
Because it's, it's pretty well stopped in that area.

981
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,000
So.

982
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,000
I appreciate everybody's comments.

983
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,000
But I haven't, I'm, I'm for.

984
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:19,000
Overterning the mayor's veto.

985
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,000
Thank you, John.

986
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,000
Any, I think Phil wants to be in.

987
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,000
Yeah.

988
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,000
Thank you.

989
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,000
I'm kind of a late and duck here, not so.

990
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,000
But I was here when we did that last copy and it's a plan.

991
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,000
I was part of it.

992
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:40,000
But I get, I look on Facebook and everyday.

993
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:45,000
There's people in there that are trying to find a place to live in bearable.

994
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Every day, there's somebody that wants to move to bearable.

995
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,000
They can't find a place to live.

996
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,000
We have employers in bearable that hire people.

997
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,000
And they can't find a place to live here.

998
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,000
So they can't hire them.

999
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,000
I went back in 2005.

1000
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,000
We didn't have to worry about this.

1001
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,000
That advancement.

1002
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,000
But it's for all.

1003
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,000
Because it was nothing out there.

1004
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,000
Nobody wanted to build anything.

1005
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,000
And I watched that.

1006
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,000
I watched it for 20 years.

1007
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,000
Nothing.

1008
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,000
Nobody built anything in there.

1009
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,000
We just, we were just dead.

1010
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,000
And we're going to point right now.

1011
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,000
We need housing in bearable.

1012
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,000
And as far as I'm concerned, I don't.

1013
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,000
I don't fear or overruling the mayor's feet.

1014
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Thank you.

1015
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,000
Thank you.

1016
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,000
Okay.

1017
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Do you want to do it?

1018
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,000
Yep.

1019
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,000
I'm not way in.

1020
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,000
There's a couple of points of clarification.

1021
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,000
This property.

1022
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,000
There's been a lot of comments that it's not in the comprehensive plan.

1023
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,000
It's in a urban reserve area.

1024
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,000
I believe it's what it's classified as.

1025
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,000
This property when the 2005 plan went through.

1026
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,000
It was actually zoned a one in 2015.

1027
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,000
I believe 2014, 2015.

1028
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,000
The landowners actually came into the city and asked you guys to

1029
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,000
rezone this.

1030
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,000
You rezoned it to I4.

1031
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,000
So it went through the full rezoning process.

1032
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,000
There was multiple public hearings.

1033
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,000
It was a result of that.

1034
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,000
And that's how they've operated and they've designed this particular property.

1035
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Is looking at they have the ability to do this.

1036
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,000
That's kind of what brought this plan forward.

1037
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,000
What we're talking about here is just simply a development agreement.

1038
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:44,000
So it's a partnership between the city and the developer in the development agreement.

1039
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,000
Every single aspect of all of our vetting processes is still in place.

1040
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:54,000
So the next step for the landowner obviously is creating a plaque getting that recorded,

1041
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,000
which is multiple public hearings.

1042
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:03,000
The next step after that, they're going to break out the parcel that jake will be developing as part of

1043
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,000
view its nest or view its landing LLC.

1044
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:11,000
He's given us preliminary renderings of what he plans on doing.

1045
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,000
But he's going to have to rezone that to a residential like an R3.

1046
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,000
So he gets more density down there.

1047
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,000
So that'll go through that public process.

1048
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,000
And then as a part of that, he'll have to go for the building permit,

1049
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,000
which will go through the plan commission.

1050
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,000
I'll have to review that.

1051
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,000
There'll be public hearings there.

1052
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,000
Public hearings when it comes back.

1053
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,000
I, you know, the the concerns about protecting.

1054
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,000
Pue its nest and skill at creek.

1055
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,000
That is a huge issue for everyone involved.

1056
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,000
We all are stakeholders in that.

1057
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,000
Obviously stormwater plan has to go through.

1058
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Specifically through plan commission and through public hearings.

1059
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,000
And then ultimately comes up to council.

1060
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,000
And same thing with the site.

1061
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,000
What rendering plan or landscape plan.

1062
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,000
As a.

1063
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,000
Part of that, too. So every element of every project that's going to occur out there is going to have 2, 3, 4, 5 public hearings that everybody will have the opportunity to weigh in on.

1064
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:19,000
What is being done and what the veto is pertaining to is specifically the development agreement. So that's the start of the project.

1065
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:25,000
And then going forward, each and every project that occurs out there is going to have numerous public processes.

1066
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:31,000
And if they fail to go through that process, if you need the development agreement, then their violation of the development agreement.

1067
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:39,000
So we require every project to go through as part of the development agreement, the exact same process that every other project does.

1068
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:49,000
So the terms and conditions that were negotiated between the city and the developer does not remove any of the other aspects of the public transparency process.

1069
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:55,000
So just so it breaks kind of out the same page. This is the start of the project.

1070
01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:01,000
The development agreement is the start of that. And then you've got the public process that takes place throughout.

1071
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,000
So just want to clarify that for everyone.

1072
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,000
All right. Thank you.

1073
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,000
Anyone else with any comments or discussion?

1074
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,000
We can move some again.

1075
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,000
Oh, sorry. We lost all of them and flown again.

1076
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:21,000
We're only the phone service in the talk period is not up to snuff tonight.

1077
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,000
Hey Scott.

1078
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:53,000
All right. Is there any any any further discussion or comment from anyone?

1079
01:31:53,000 --> 01:32:01,000
There's no comment. I'll entertain a motion if someone would like to make that or I'll make a motion to veto the the mayors.

1080
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:08,000
Over right over right the mayors veto. I'll make that motion.

1081
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:15,000
All right. So we have a motion in a second to override the mayors veto and approve the spirit lake LLC development agreement.

1082
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:20,000
Is there any other further discussion on motion?

1083
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,000
All right. Hearing none, we will call the roll and just to clarify.

1084
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:35,000
A yes vote is to override the veto and approve the development agreement and overriding the veto will require a two thirds vote or six votes.

1085
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,000
I'll go ahead and please call the roll.

1086
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,000
There we go.

1087
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,000
All right.

1088
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,000
Call. No.

1089
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,000
Hazard.

1090
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,000
No.

1091
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Kent.

1092
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,000
No.

1093
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,000
Petty.

1094
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,000
All right.

1095
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,000
Ellington.

1096
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,000
All right.

1097
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,000
All right.

1098
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,000
Here's it.

1099
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,000
All right.

1100
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,000
So we've had was six votes in favor correct.

1101
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,000
All right.

1102
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:02,000
So the veto is overturned and we will proceed with the development agreement.

1103
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,000
Thank you all for your consideration on that topic tonight.

1104
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:14,000
It takes us to 12 dot lots more exciting stuff. Don't run away everyone.

1105
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,000
That's yeah, we don't get a large gallery very often.

1106
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,000
It's a ghost.

1107
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,000
We're just getting warmed up tonight.

1108
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,000
12 dot two removal of the oak street overlook.

1109
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:30,000
Consider approving the removal of the old bridge among the abutment at oak street and water street.

1110
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,000
Mr. Hurr.

1111
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,000
Thank you.

1112
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,000
I don't know if I should be offended if everyone's leaving now.

1113
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,000
But I don't have Valentine's night plants either.

1114
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,000
So I'm so you're stuck with me.

1115
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:43,000
So anyway, you heard from Marcus and I'm going to say tonight with the presentation.

1116
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,000
So I don't have to repeat that.

1117
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,000
But if you have any questions, I'm sure Marcus can answer.

1118
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,000
I can try to answer as best as I can.

1119
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,000
There's some questions as to why now.

1120
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,000
So this obviously this abutment has been around for over 100 years.

1121
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,000
And why now are we looking at doing something with it?

1122
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,000
Why haven't we before?

1123
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:05,000
Well, I guess in the interest of some of the other discussions we've heard.

1124
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:09,000
We do a comprehensive outdoor recreation plan every five years.

1125
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,000
I've done four of them since I've been here in the 14 years have been here.

1126
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:18,000
When we get to year four, I tell Parks Commission that we need to start the process again.

1127
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:24,000
We need to assemble a committee, a public committee, so we can get a new comprehensive outdoor recreation plan pass.

1128
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,000
Because every five years we have to have one done to become eligible for grants.

1129
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:33,000
And the last court plan that we did, we do a community survey in every court plan.

1130
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:38,000
The last survey that we did, which covers 2022 to exceeding 22 to 22 to 27.

1131
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,000
We're currently in right now.

1132
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,000
2021, we did a community survey.

1133
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:50,000
We had a 11% response rate from 11% of city households, which is good any time we can get over 10%.

1134
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,000
We're very happy.

1135
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:55,000
Of those households, year city households, the number one thing they wanted,

1136
01:34:55,000 --> 01:35:01,000
which has been the number one thing every five years has been a continued expansion and improvement of the riverwalk,

1137
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:05,000
which is why we put that as a priority, the Parks Commission puts that as a priority,

1138
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,000
see that in a budget every year.

1139
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,000
The number two thing in 2021.

1140
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,000
Can you open that door back?

1141
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:22,000
The number two thing that the community wanted us to concentrate on in 2021 was this project,

1142
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:29,000
was the Oak Street Overlock, a connection between the businesses and the downtown businesses in the riverwalk.

1143
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,000
So that's why we put this under budget.

1144
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,000
We went, we got on the way funding to get a study done.

1145
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:39,000
We went out and did bidding and got MSA came in to do this project.

1146
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,000
And again, that was on the way funds that wasn't tax dollars.

1147
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,000
The number three thing, of course, was bringing the Great Sox State Trail to Baribu.

1148
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:52,000
And of course, I've been on that Great Sox State Trail Commission since 2018,

1149
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,000
so that's something that we're working on as well.

1150
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
But the community has asked for this.

1151
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,000
This was their number two thing that they asked of us to do.

1152
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,000
So that's why, number one, that's why we're doing it.

1153
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:07,000
So when we went at this, we went looking at the original plan that was done back in.

1154
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,000
I think it was 97 or 2002 something like this.

1155
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:15,000
We used in the existing abutment and doing an ADA ramp to get up there and that sort of thing.

1156
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,000
So that's the original route that that we took.

1157
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,000
Unfortunately, as you heard tonight, there are some concerns structurally with that.

1158
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,000
We're not able to do that anymore.

1159
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:31,000
So the three things that you require me to do by department to do is we look at safety.

1160
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,000
We look at accessibility.

1161
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,000
We look at being within budget.

1162
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,000
Those are the three things that we need to do.

1163
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,000
Regardless of what the community wants.

1164
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,000
Regardless of what grants we have available.

1165
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,000
We need to make sure it's safe.

1166
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,000
Obviously, we want to take that liability away from the city.

1167
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,000
So that's what our opportunities for injury or anything like that.

1168
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:52,000
We have to make it accessible so that the majority of our residents are able to access it.

1169
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,000
Regardless of their physical ability.

1170
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,000
And we need to be within budget.

1171
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,000
And that's why we've been pursuing these grants.

1172
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:03,000
This is going to be a multi-phase project that we are going to be continuing to pursue grants for

1173
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:09,000
Casey Wiss instrumental in helping us get this start with this half million dollar

1174
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,000
appropriation with Senator Baldwin and Representative Polkan.

1175
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,000
I hope not with that and there'll be future grants coming.

1176
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:25,000
This is probably one of the best projects that's going to qualify for several different grant funding opportunities

1177
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,000
as we go through it.

1178
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,000
So it's going to combine a lot of opportunities.

1179
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,000
So number one once we heard that this this abutment was unsafe.

1180
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,000
We did snow fence it off to the public.

1181
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:46,000
It does need to have considerably more barriers put up to make it less accessible to people.

1182
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,000
We had our staff meeting.

1183
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:54,000
We determined that the best course of action due to the report from the structural engineers.

1184
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,000
Was to immediately take that down or as soon as possible take that down to eliminate any risk,

1185
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,000
especially knowing that it wasn't feasible to keep.

1186
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:07,000
So the first thing that we're looking at is permission for us to remove that hazard.

1187
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:12,000
And this did go to, you should mention this did go to Parks Commission last night.

1188
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:18,000
It was actually the second last month they had actually first looked at it and had a presentation from Marcus.

1189
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,000
And then last night they had considered this.

1190
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,000
It was unanimous recommendation.

1191
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,000
However it was discussed especially by three of those members.

1192
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,000
Quite a bit of discussion that went on.

1193
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:34,000
A lot of people that I really hated to do it but they knew that in the position that we were in.

1194
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,000
We did have to do it so it was unanimous decision.

1195
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,000
They'd go to finance tonight as well.

1196
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,000
And they also recommended it for a for your consideration tonight.

1197
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:47,000
So if you have any questions Marcus right would be happy to answer.

1198
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:55,000
Marcus suggested that you could keep some of the original stone to put as planters or.

1199
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:59,000
You know, maybe even a memorial, you know, you know,

1200
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:05,000
you know, a bronze memorial that showed would depict the old high bridge or something like that.

1201
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:12,000
And I think as long as some of those original stones are saved, you know, I agree that, you know,

1202
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,000
in this look to just society.

1203
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,000
I think that proposes a hazard the way it is.

1204
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:25,000
Yeah, and like like your report said about five to ten percent of those stones could not be used to what they were found out to be.

1205
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,000
The the parks commission was told this as well.

1206
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:36,000
That is our intent to do that on project to save what we can and and to work with the parks commission and with yourselves.

1207
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,000
To develop additional signage and additional memorial is there.

1208
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,000
You will have the opportunity in parks commission will have the opportunity if this does continue to go forward.

1209
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,000
The future designs as we go on to the next phases.

1210
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,000
So you'll be able to see what it's actually going to look like.

1211
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,000
So we will have some options as far as what finishes type of finishes.

1212
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:58,000
We can make and what kind of a historical signage that we can add as well.

1213
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:03,000
I make a motion that we approve this resolution to remove the ice cream.

1214
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,000
Second.

1215
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,000
All right.

1216
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,000
Hazard made a motion.

1217
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,000
How long have you been waiting to.

1218
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,000
All right.

1219
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,000
We have a motion and a second if I could just ask one quick question Mike.

1220
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:25,000
So when you say.

1221
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,000
Staff would immediately start removing that.

1222
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,000
What kind of timeline are we looking at like.

1223
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:35,000
Yeah, as soon as.

1224
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,000
We want to get to as soon as we can and.

1225
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,000
So if anyone wants to picture they better get out there tomorrow.

1226
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:48,000
I would say get as soon as he can because we it's going to depend on the snow storm, but we're going to have people working out and immediately.

1227
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,000
It is a safety hazard.

1228
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,000
The sooner we get it out the sooner we eliminate the risk.

1229
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,000
Okay.

1230
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,000
All right.

1231
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,000
Sorry for interjecting.

1232
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,000
So we do have a motion in a second on the floor to.

1233
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,000
Approve the removal of the old bridge above that oak street and water street.

1234
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,000
Is there any further discussion?

1235
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,000
I guess I'm going to ask the question again.

1236
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,000
I'm still a little unclear what the cost of that is.

1237
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:14,000
So just because of strictly just the removal of the.

1238
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:18,000
Abutment do we have any kind of a figure for that.

1239
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,000
We don't know.

1240
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,000
No, yeah, it's it'll be an in house.

1241
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:25,000
Removal using using staff equipment from in house.

1242
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,000
So we're not looking at contracting that part out.

1243
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,000
So that's just by city staff.

1244
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,000
I mean in.

1245
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,000
Street's department in person department primarily yes.

1246
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,000
You're welcome to come down and bring her head if you want.

1247
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:38,000
We'll take volunteer.

1248
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,000
Just have to sign of volunteer for them.

1249
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,000
Sign of volunteer.

1250
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,000
We've got volunteer waivers for that.

1251
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,000
So yeah.

1252
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:50,000
So if I'm understanding question, there wouldn't really be a cost per say other than.

1253
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,000
We're potentially pulling people off from other.

1254
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:54,000
Other jobs.

1255
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,000
Yes.

1256
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,000
What's no storm coming in obviously parks.

1257
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,000
Road street street guys are going to be tied up.

1258
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:07,000
So, you know, once we can get crews freed up, we're going to be dedicating them to get in this taking care of as soon as possible.

1259
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,000
Okay.

1260
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,000
What are you going to do to mitigate erosion once you tear that.

1261
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,000
That.

1262
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,000
Well, don't.

1263
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,000
The apartment down.

1264
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,000
We've well.

1265
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,000
So until something gets built there.

1266
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:26,000
Yeah, so it'll be obviously so thin everything that that that we do that.

1267
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:30,000
You know, that we do with any street when it's any park development.

1268
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:36,000
Any landscaping type projects still fancy landscaping and then getting seated of course.

1269
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,000
As soon as possible.

1270
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,000
So yeah, we'll be following those those same protocols that we use in any other development.

1271
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:43,000
Okay.

1272
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,000
Thank you.

1273
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,000
All right.

1274
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,000
Any further discussion.

1275
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,000
All right.

1276
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,000
Hearing none.

1277
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,000
Please call the rule.

1278
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,000
We'd again.

1279
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,000
All right.

1280
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,000
Call.

1281
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,000
Hasard.

1282
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,000
Kent.

1283
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:57,000
Eddie.

1284
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,000
Hi.

1285
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,000
We've lost.

1286
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,000
Here's it.

1287
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,000
There.

1288
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,000
All right.

1289
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1290
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,000
Thank you.

1291
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,000
And on the 1213 request for proposals.

1292
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:23,000
Consider approving the city engineer to solicit request for proposals for the design and construction administration of the Oak Street Overlooking ADAPF project.

1293
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:25,000
Oh, sorry.

1294
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,000
Oh, numbers are appearing before my eyes.

1295
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,000
Sorry.

1296
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,000
12.3 requests for proposals.

1297
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,000
Might.

1298
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,000
Please make me stop talking.

1299
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,000
All right.

1300
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,000
Thank you.

1301
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,000
All right.

1302
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,000
So this is.

1303
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,000
This process again.

1304
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:44,000
This was recommended to you by Park's commission after last night's meeting.

1305
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:49,000
This allows us to go on with the next phase of planning.

1306
01:43:49,000 --> 01:44:02,000
So many are soliciting RFPs to get a final plan on the future ADA ramp and the overlook that will allow us to continue to go to pursue additional grant funding.

1307
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:08,000
We're also looking as part of that RFP to provide an option to continue.

1308
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:13,000
Design for the across the river into the new riverfront park.

1309
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:18,000
What our goal is to ideally work with the same.

1310
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:26,000
Designer the same firm so that we have a consistent design in that area.

1311
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:32,000
This kind of goes to meet our the bearable riverfront corridor improvement.

1312
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,000
Projects that we've been working on.

1313
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:39,000
So we're looking at continuing this.

1314
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,000
The planning for the the corridor in the parks.

1315
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:46,000
There's as I mentioned before, this area is right for a lot of grants and right now.

1316
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:59,000
There's a lot of for instance cap funding out there some stewardship funding and there's been more appropriations made for these types of projects and for trails and those types of projects.

1317
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,000
So getting.

1318
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:28,000
On this right away, getting some RFPs out there right away, that will help us also to pursue additional grants and additional donations, and to continue this project going, because one of the concerns that we did here is that we don't want a plan to happen, we don't want you to tear down the abutment in it to set for another 20 years before anything happens. So we want to continue this process going, especially while the funding is out there and is available. This was also discussed by Finance and Recommended to you tonight.

1319
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,000
Any questions for Mike on this one?

1320
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,000
So we'll...

1321
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,000
Second.

1322
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:39,000
Okay, we have a motion and a second to allow the city engineer to request RFPs for the design and construction of the old street.

1323
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,000
Overlook at an ADA path and a further discussion on the motion.

1324
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,000
Hearing none, please call the rule.

1325
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,000
Cool.

1326
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,000
Aye.

1327
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,000
Hazard.

1328
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,000
Aye.

1329
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:50,000
Aye.

1330
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,000
Aye.

1331
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,000
Aye.

1332
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,000
Slow and slow.

1333
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,000
Slow.

1334
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,000
Okay.

1335
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,000
Here's it.

1336
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,000
Aye.

1337
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,000
Aye.

1338
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1339
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,000
Thank you.

1340
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:01,000
12.4.

1341
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:09,000
Consider approving a classic combination liquor license for SSS Wisconsin BRW LLC, doing business as squirrels,

1342
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,000
service station number 707.

1343
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,000
Located at 516-H.

1344
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,000
Street.

1345
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:20,000
I was dragging in out as long as I could.

1346
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,000
Are you taking?

1347
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,000
I'll go ahead and start on that one.

1348
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,000
All right.

1349
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,000
Go ahead.

1350
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:33,000
I'm a standard classic combination license, which means that it is for fermented milk beverages along with the liquor.

1351
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:39,000
This will be a united cooperative formally held the liquor license at that location.

1352
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,000
They have surrendered it.

1353
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:48,000
And now with SSS Wisconsin BRW LLC has come in and place of them.

1354
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,000
So this would be at the corner of.

1355
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,000
Yeah.

1356
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,000
Thank you.

1357
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,000
Thank you.

1358
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,000
It's been reviewed by city staff.

1359
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,000
Sorry.

1360
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,000
This would be the Senate station.

1361
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,000
It's a big corner of four.

1362
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,000
Thank you.

1363
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:02,000
Thank you.

1364
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:11,000
It's been reviewed by city staff including the police department and it went before the administrative committee.

1365
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,000
With unanimous approval.

1366
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:19,000
If approved tonight, the liquor license would be effective starting tomorrow February 15th until the end of June when all like the license.

1367
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,000
This is expired.

1368
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,000
Motion to approve.

1369
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,000
Petty second.

1370
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:26,000
All right.

1371
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,000
There's a motion in a second to approve the classic.

1372
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:35,000
Motion in a second to approve the classic combination liquor license for SSS Wisconsin BRW.

1373
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,000
Any further discussion on the motion?

1374
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,000
Hearing none, please call the rule.

1375
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,000
Hazard.

1376
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,000
I can't.

1377
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,000
Petty.

1378
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,000
Aye.

1379
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:45,000
Ellington.

1380
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,000
Aye.

1381
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1382
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,000
Thank you.

1383
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,000
12.5.

1384
01:47:49,000 --> 01:48:00,000
Consider authorizing Chiefsenden to purchase body cameras to be reimbursed from the tribal and local law enforcement agency initiative grant funds.

1385
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,000
Chief, you have the floor.

1386
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,000
Good evening, everyone.

1387
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,000
Everyone.

1388
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:11,000
One thing I've learned is a new chief of police is when the city clerk puts your name on an agenda item you show up at the podium.

1389
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,000
Fourth whip.

1390
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,000
Reference the body cameras.

1391
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:22,000
All of you are undoubtedly aware of the grant that I'm proposing to spend tonight.

1392
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:32,000
The city council did vote at an earlier meeting to accept grant funds in the amount of $32,178 in some sense.

1393
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:38,000
What the purpose of my presence here tonight is to request to spend those funds.

1394
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:45,000
I'm proposing to spend those funds on replacement body-worn cameras for each of our police officers.

1395
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:50,000
The amount of $32,160 will be spent and trust me.

1396
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:56,000
I promise the finance committee I would find to place to spend $18 and I will do that.

1397
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:02,000
But this equips this allows for 29 body-worn cameras.

1398
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:07,000
But that also allows our community service officers to wear those, which is very important.

1399
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:15,000
So my request is to expend the $32,160 for body cameras out of the grant funds.

1400
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:23,000
If you recall, the city spends the money and then is reimbursed by the Department of Administration for those funds.

1401
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,000
I would question on the body cameras.

1402
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,000
They've been in the news lately, if you've probably seen that.

1403
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:40,000
Are they supposed to, what's the rule with your officers about how the cameras are on or when they're off, etc?

1404
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:47,000
We have specific policies required by law that dictate when those cameras go on, when they go off.

1405
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:51,000
And those policies are quite extensive, actually.

1406
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:57,000
So as far as the individual specific circumstances when they're turned on and when they're turned off,

1407
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:03,000
I will tell you that, in my opinion, over the last 32 years of service,

1408
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:12,000
the risk of not having body-worn cameras, the liability to the city, is much greater without those cameras than it is with the cameras.

1409
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,000
But there are rules and regulations on and off.

1410
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,000
Yes, mandated by state law.

1411
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:20,000
Okay, thank you.

1412
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,000
Motion to approve.

1413
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:29,000
All right, we have a motion in a second to give to authorize the purchase of body cameras through the grant funds,

1414
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,000
and he further discussion on the motion.

1415
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,000
Hearing none, please call the rule.

1416
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,000
Kent, Betty.

1417
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,000
Hi.

1418
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,000
Ellenton.

1419
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,000
Here's it.

1420
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,000
I thorough.

1421
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,000
Good.

1422
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,000
Good.

1423
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,000
Hi.

1424
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:43,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1425
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,000
Thank you.

1426
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,000
12.6, consider authorizing the mayor to execute and enter into a joint powers agreement with

1427
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:52,000
Scott County for the 911 emergency system.

1428
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:53,000
This is also you, correct.

1429
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,000
Correct.

1430
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,000
Yes.

1431
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:56,000
I get to be a stand-in for Tom.

1432
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,000
Right.

1433
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,000
You also have to come to the podium when it's, but that's right.

1434
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,000
This is a rather simple agreement.

1435
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:06,000
It is a joint powers agreement required by state statute.

1436
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:13,000
Whenever a city or an entity is involved in a countywide emergency 911 system, they have to sign an agreement

1437
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:20,000
pursuant to state statute that says, when we are called outside of our boundaries, if we are

1438
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:26,000
not utilizing specific pieces of equipment, that we will utilize those outside our boundaries

1439
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,000
if we're asked to do so.

1440
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:38,000
And this agreement, which, again, is mandatory to be part of the 911 system, details that.

1441
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,000
Motion approved.

1442
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,000
Correct.

1443
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,000
Second.

1444
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,000
All right.

1445
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:46,000
We have a motion and a second to authorize the execution of a joint powers agreement for 911 emergency

1446
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,000
system.

1447
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,000
Any further discussion on the motion?

1448
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,000
Hearing none.

1449
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,000
Please comment the roll.

1450
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,000
Petty.

1451
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,000
All right.

1452
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,000
Hearing none, please comment the roll.

1453
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:56,000
Petty.

1454
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,000
All right.

1455
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:58,000
All right.

1456
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,000
All right.

1457
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,000
All right.

1458
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1459
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,000
Thank you.

1460
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,000
Thank you.

1461
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:04,000
Thank you.

1462
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,000
12.7.

1463
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,000
Consider preliminary resolution.

1464
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,000
During intent to levies special assessments in accordance with the sidewalk policy for

1465
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:16,000
new sidewalks at 11th Street between Elizabeth and Jefferson, that will be installed as part

1466
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,000
of the 2023 Street improvements.

1467
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:20,000
Mr. Pin, take it away.

1468
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,000
Thank you, Mayor.

1469
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,000
Good evening.

1470
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,000
This is a resolution that should sound familiar.

1471
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,000
We go through this pretty much every year.

1472
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:34,000
It's part of a statutory process to assess brand new sidewalks where none currently exist.

1473
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:38,000
That's consistent with the city's sidewalk policy.

1474
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,000
It's part of the budget preparation and review.

1475
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:44,000
Public safety committee reviewed several areas within the city.

1476
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:48,000
We have a map that shows the entire network of sidewalks throughout the city.

1477
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:54,000
And when we're doing street projects that our will have sidewalk, the committee tends to target those

1478
01:52:54,000 --> 01:53:00,000
areas to provide better connectivity in some of those areas that don't have sidewalks currently.

1479
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:04,000
So this year there's roughly $75,000 available.

1480
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:10,000
And we looked at 10th Street, 11th Street and 12th Street between Elizabeth and Jefferson.

1481
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,000
So it's at two block stretch.

1482
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,000
11th Street has the least amount of obstacles in the way.

1483
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:19,000
So we'll simplify that and keep the cost reasonable.

1484
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:24,000
And that will essentially exhaust the available funds for new sidewalks.

1485
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,000
So public safety committee at their meeting.

1486
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:33,000
Last month decided that this would be a good place to provide new sidewalks.

1487
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,000
And this is the first step in that statutory process.

1488
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:44,000
So it's the preliminary resolution that declares our intent to let special assessments for new sidewalks.

1489
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:49,000
So that triggers the city engineer to have to prepare an assessment report.

1490
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,000
Send out notices to the affected property owners.

1491
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,000
Part of that process.

1492
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:58,000
We try to hold a neighborhood meeting with the affected property owners.

1493
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:02,000
And then there's a mandatory public hearing that she'll see in the upcoming months.

1494
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:07,000
I think I'm forecasting toward the end of April as part of this particular agenda.

1495
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:08,000
Under item eight.

1496
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:14,000
I'm estimating going to be April 25th for that public hearing if we can get everything done in the meantime.

1497
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:18,000
So with that, happy to answer any questions.

1498
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,000
Any questions for Tom?

1499
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:22,000
Second.

1500
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,000
All right.

1501
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:30,000
We have a motion in a second to approve the declaration of intent to level to levees special assessments.

1502
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:44,000
We have a motion in a second to approve the declaration of intent to levees special assessments for our sidewalks on 11th street between Elizabeth and Jefferson any additional discussion on the motion.

1503
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,000
Hearing none, please call the roll.

1504
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,000
Here's it.

1505
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,000
I thorough.

1506
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,000
We begin.

1507
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:51,000
Hi.

1508
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,000
All right.

1509
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,000
All right.

1510
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,000
All right.

1511
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:55,000
Motion passes unanimously.

1512
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,000
Thank you.

1513
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:06,000
To new business 13.1 an amendment of ordinance 7.09 sub 20 to related to overnight parking being prohibited on certain.

1514
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,000
Streets or parking lots.

1515
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,000
Still you, Tom.

1516
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,000
It is.

1517
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,000
Thank you again.

1518
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,000
This ordinance revision comes by way of the staff.

1519
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,000
Primarily the public works department and parks department.

1520
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:24,000
Those that are charged with clearing the streets and municipal parking lots of snow.

1521
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,000
Right now downtown.

1522
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,000
Bear who has a prohibition overnight parking between the hours of 2 a.m.

1523
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,000
And 6 a.m.

1524
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,000
Every single date.

1525
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,000
That does not extend into the municipal parking lots.

1526
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,000
We have many parking lots that are 24 hour parking.

1527
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,000
It doesn't give them in definite time 24 hours passes.

1528
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,000
They have to move at least 90 feet to completely ordinance.

1529
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:51,000
So what staff is suggesting is there's a couple of locks that are used rather sparingly for overnight parking.

1530
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:57,000
Northside of 5th Avenue just east of Broadway and the lower civics center parking lot.

1531
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:07,000
So since they're used sparingly we'd like to concentrate the location owes vehicles so we can maximize the efficiency of removing snow from those.

1532
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:14,000
So on the 5th Avenue parking lot we'd like to create alternate side parking if you will.

1533
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,000
And it would be restricted from 2 a.m.

1534
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,000
To 6 a.m.

1535
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,000
On the east side on.

1536
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,000
On the east side on.

1537
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:26,000
On the west half would be allowed during odd days east half on even days.

1538
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:33,000
So we'd be able to clear at least 50% of the parking lot completely and not put our operators or equipment and perils way.

1539
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:39,000
Trying to sneak through scattered parking via park vehicles.

1540
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,000
Similarly lower civics center lot.

1541
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:47,000
A lot of stalls there in fact there's six different aisles of parking running east and west.

1542
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:51,000
So the proposal from staff is that the central area.

1543
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:59,000
Be restricted from 2 a.m. to 6 a.m. so we can complete four out of six of those are 66% of the lot cleared.

1544
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:05,000
So the far north row of stalls which is against the upper civics center parking lot.

1545
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:13,000
And the southernmost row of stalls adjacent to first street would be 24 hour parking.

1546
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,000
The balance no parking 2 a.m. to 6 a.m.

1547
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:24,000
I know there's a question what about special events typically that's posted for special events so that basically voids that 2 a.m. to 6 a.m.

1548
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:29,000
So this was looked at the January 30th meeting in public safety.

1549
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:34,000
I know it's the police department has chained in and I know that the folks from the parks department.

1550
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:39,000
Feel that this is a reasonable approach to improve the city's operational capabilities.

1551
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:44,000
So that we have to address any questions or concerns that you might have.

1552
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:50,000
This is going to be a huge learning curve for the people that that park in those overnight lots.

1553
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:58,000
How are you going to put this information out so that it's an understandable format for these folks.

1554
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:06,000
I think we have 10 different signs to identify exactly it'll be very well signed.

1555
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:13,000
It comes as close to being itself explanatory as long as someone's looking at the signs and not at their phones.

1556
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:18,000
So it will be well we've already sent notified our normal sign company.

1557
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:24,000
They've sent us drafts back so if this gets approved at the next meeting we would have them ordered.

1558
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:32,000
We don't really expect to sign it or enforce it anymore this season but certainly for the fall portion of winter.

1559
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,000
Just get people used to it.

1560
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,000
Yeah, that's it. Thanks.

1561
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,000
But it would be a year round change though correct.

1562
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:48,000
Not just in the winter. Yes, it would get upon the direction of the science so ordinance will be there and signs and they're taking six to eight weeks to get them delivered these days.

1563
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:54,000
So by then hopefully this season of winter is over.

1564
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,000
Any other questions for Tom.

1565
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:07,000
So we have a motion in the second to amend ordinance 7.09 sub 20 related overnight parking.

1566
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:24,000
Yeah, I just want to say that one of the biggest things I hear from people who live downtown is how restrictive the parking already is and is there any other way to accommodate parking downtown to also accommodate snow and move.

1567
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:35,000
I don't know if there is, but I can I can assure you that more restrictive parking downtown even as apparently as you say it's it's being used.

1568
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:39,000
It's going to cause more consternation for people downtown.

1569
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:45,000
I don't know if there's any other way to do snow removal that makes sense to do maintenance up there.

1570
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,000
I don't know.

1571
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:58,000
I'm just saying that potentially if there's any other creative way to do to do that and allow people to park without all these restrictions.

1572
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,000
I think that would be a very open.

1573
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:30,000
That's all I have to say about that, because parking right now down there is something that I've heard about parking passes, about a lot of snow emergencies, instead of a vote and it's said parking and being allowed to park on the street. And now not only are we not doing that or not even talking about that, we are going to restrict parking and lots that we're not restricted before. So I just want to bring that up as maybe there's other ways to do things.

1574
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:57,000
I'd be happy to hear. It was a concern as well on public safety, but we had several aerial photos of that area. And there really were just a smattering of cars parking overnight. And there's adequate parking for the cars that are identified. There's adequate parking on the alternative parking spaces.

1575
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:12,000
And in addition to that, the snowplow drivers were engaged in this in Tony, so Tony, the street superintendent confirmed that, you know, there really isn't a lot.

1576
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:19,000
The parking spaces that are going to be a lot more than compensate for.

1577
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:26,000
For that one, when they're flowing. Okay.

1578
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:30,000
Any further discussion on the motion.

1579
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,000
All right. Hearing none, please call the rule.

1580
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,000
Curezic. I. Served. I. Whittigan.

1581
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,000
Cool. Aye. Hazard. Aye. Kent. Aye. Petty. All right.

1582
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,000
All right. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you.

1583
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,000
Thank you. Thank you Tom.

1584
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Administrator and council comments.

1585
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Casey, do you have anything? Okay. Any other person's have any comments to share?

1586
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I'd like to point out fees in our building, uh, uh, building inspectors report is 10% of the total fees collected.

1587
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:09,000
10% in January of the total fees collected in 2022.

1588
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,000
So there's something going on.

1589
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:19,000
Thank you. Anyone else that have any announcements to share?

1590
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:23,000
All right. Thank you. That takes us to 15 reports, petitions and correspondence.

1591
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:28,000
We're linked to the packet online, uh, which takes us to item 16.

1592
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:32,000
I'll entertain a motion to go into closed session, pursuant to statute.

1593
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:38,000
19.85 sub one sub C to consider employment promotion, compensation or performance evaluation of a public employee.

1594
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And this would be, uh, continuing the annual performance evaluation for the city administrator.

1595
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,000
All right.

1596
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:50,000
We have a motion in the second to go into closed session.

1597
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Would you please call the roll?

1598
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Cursic, uh, thorough.

1599
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Hi. We'd a good.

1600
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Cool.

1601
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:57,000
All right.

1602
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,000
All right.

1603
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:00,000
All right.

1604
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We are going into closed session. Does anyone need a break?

1605
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Looks like they are already queuing up.

1606
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:09,000
Looks like they are queuing up at the year.

1607
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,000
Yeah.

1608
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,000
May I rush with a manager?

1609
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Thank you.