[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] I'll call the Monday, May 16, 2022 meeting of the basketball community preservation committee [0:05] to order. I'll call the roll. Terry Dwaynes, [0:12] Marilyn Pfeil. Marilyn here yet. No. Deb [0:18] Converse. Yeah. Katherine Garafoli will be a little late. Tom Lee. Yeah. Folly Lewis. Yeah. [0:28] Stephen Robachod, [0:32] James Tinalia, I am here, and Lindsey [0:36] council is present. Please note that tonight's meeting is [0:40] recorded and broadcast on Channel 18, and in accordance with [0:44] that general law, Chapter 30A, Section 20, the chair must [0:48] inquire whether anyone is taping this meeting and to please [0:51] make their presence known. [0:54] No taping, very good. First item on [0:58] The agenda is the approval of the draft Community Preservation Committee meeting minutes from April 25th, 2022. [1:08] Everyone had a chance to look those over? [1:15] Is there a motion to approve? [1:17] Motion to approve. [1:20] Second. [1:21] We move the second to approve the April 25th, 2022 meeting minutes of the Community Preservation Committee. Any further discussion? [1:29] on the minutes. All right. I'll call the roll. Jerry Deweyness, you arrived yet? No. [1:41] Bowling Fight Field. Bowling's not here. Deb Converse. [1:47] I have to abstain. Very good. Thanks for that. Catherine is going to be late. [1:53] Tom Lee. Yes. [1:56] Folly Lewis. Yes. Steve Robbushard signed on yet? Nope. James Sinalia. I also have to [2:05] abstain. And Lindsey Council votes yes. [2:12] I believe with it there is a quorum we can [2:16] still pass that correct. Yes. The minutes would still pass. Yes. The extensions I think [2:23] they do, right? [2:27] We'll have to check on that, though. [2:30] Anyway, we can do that. If they have to be [2:32] re-done, we'll do it next month. Mr. Chair? Yes. Hi, Jessica. Hi, so there were two abstentions, [2:39] and their five is your quorum, correct? Correct. Are they still good? Yeah, were there three in favor? [2:46] Yeah. Yeah. [2:50] So an abstention doesn't mean non voting. No, it just means a no vote. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. [3:00] Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Jessica. Okay. Meeting minutes are done. [3:08] Now we move to letters of intent. [3:11] The first one is from the Unitarian Church of Bonsville. [3:15] A letter of intent has been received, [3:17] requesting $300,000 in community preservation, [3:20] historic preservation funds for the restoration, [3:23] preservation of the church tower, [3:25] with a total cost estimate of more than $600,000 for this item. [3:31] A grant application for $100,000 has been submitted [3:35] to the Massachusetts Historical Commission [3:38] with awards announced in June, with additional matching funds to be provided from private [3:44] contributions and pledges. I believe we have crystal gifts here to speak to this. [3:50] Thank you, Lindsay. And thank you to all of the members of the board for allowing me to speak [3:55] on behalf of the church and to tell you what we have been doing and where we hope to be moving with [4:01] the restoration and preservation of the building. As you know, the church is a historic building on [4:08] the National Register of Historic Places and it is a building to which this committee and [4:14] the town of Barnstable have contributed in the past for which we're very grateful. We had a small [4:20] very small grant from the town about nearly 15 years ago now I think and then a larger one of [4:28] 134,000 about three years ago and we think that we have handled those resources well and done some [4:37] significant work to the church. But since that time, we have engaged some very well-known [4:45] historic preservation architectural firm here in Massachusetts, which has since we began [4:51] working with them split, but it wasn't. We initially were working with Spencer Sullivan and vote, [4:58] and then we have now moved with the Spencer Preservation Group, which includes Lin Spencer, [5:06] the principal and the two architects that initially did the study when we were with Spencer Sullivan in vote. [5:14] We have done a very thorough analysis and study of the sanctuary building and then the new [5:23] additions on the church. And we have included in that study not just the structural aspects of it, [5:29] but all of the systems of the building as well. And we have done the same for the old schoolhouse. [5:35] So we have taken a look at the needs for the entire complex, all of the buildings that are on that on our property. [5:45] And we find that not a surprise to us that there's much work to be done. [5:53] The letter that I submitted indicates that that the tower and the pavilion are of the highest priority. [6:00] The pavilion is the small front door section, which is below the tower. [6:09] Those made up the highest priority, and together they would at the time that that estimate [6:16] was done a little more than a year ago, have added up to about a cost of $725,000. [6:26] $775,000 and we all know what's happened to costs and prices since then. [6:34] We have made application as the chair indicated to the Mass Historical Commission and we're [6:42] very hopeful that we will get funding from them. [6:44] We don't expect to get the $100,000 but we're asking for that amount because just the replacement [6:51] of the CUPLA will cost more than $100,000. [6:54] dollars. It needs to be entirely rebuilt, not structurally, but it's cover. Copper surface [7:04] has to be replaced, and there is structural work to be done inside as well. The tower, [7:12] which includes the base, the clock, the bell tower, and the cupola all have work needed, [7:19] and that work consists of replacing rotten wood, damaged interior structural [7:29] members which have weathered with the rain and just from old age. There is a need [7:39] to replace almost all of the flashing, all of the gutters, and much of the exterior [7:46] your wood because it's rotten. [7:49] We first thought that we would put aside the work on the pavilion and focus on the tower, [7:56] but we were encouraged by some wildlife intruders, which did some fair amount of damage inside [8:03] the church to take on the repair of the pavilion immediately. [8:08] And we're doing that ourselves, the architectural firm is just about to let the bids for that piece of work and we hope to have it done this summer. [8:18] We expect that that will cost us somewhere in the nature of $125,000 and the church membership is able to support that. [8:30] We have also in parallel with the architectural studies done a feasibility study in terms of our fund raising capacity, and we believe with the help of a consultant that we have the capacity to raise a good portion of the cost of this work. [8:49] We already have collected close to $300,000 in donations from members of the church and we have not yet begun officially begun the capital campaign. [8:59] So we're very hopeful that we're going to move forward with that. [9:03] However, the cost of the total restoration and renovation is probably moving closer and closer to a million and a half, so we really need some help. [9:12] And that's the basis for this letter, which is coming to you. [9:18] We are hopeful that we will be funded by Mass Historic Commission and that their process [9:24] will be able to, we can make it coincide with the process of applying to your committee [9:33] and the town of Barnstable in terms of getting the bids and moving forward with review by [9:42] this committee and then the work which we would hope to start in the late spring so that's [9:49] a basic summary of what we're doing and I'd be glad to answer any questions that anyone has. [9:56] Thank you, Crystal. Members, any questions? Mr. Chair, this is Steve Robichard. [10:01] Vice Chief. Hey, sorry for late arrival. I'm going to recuse myself in conversation or discussion on [10:08] this item. The company I work for as a business relationship with the church. [10:12] Thank you very much. Okay. [10:16] Anyone else? Questions? [10:21] No, Mayor, can you just remind me what we funded with the 134,000 three years ago? [10:28] We restored all of the windows, the old windows, they were all original windows in the [10:34] initial, the original part of the church, the sanctuary building, and that was, [10:39] Because I don't remember the exact count now, but close to 20 windows. [10:44] And then we replaced the windows in the addition, in the social hall. [10:49] We also re-did the paving on the walkway and the ramp to the front entrance. [10:57] We replaced some doors. [11:01] we re-refenced, I guess would be the proper word, re-fenced the exterior entrance to the basement, [11:11] replaced the door to the basement under the sanctuary, and there was, and re-faced the, and recited, [11:20] re-faced the front entrance of the addition to the church. [11:28] And it was also de-de-medification, [11:30] Do you have some under the sanctuary? [11:32] Yes, there was some under the sanctuary. [11:35] We have since installed dehumidifiers, mechanical ones, in other parts of the church and upgraded [11:43] our energy sources so that we think we're preserving the building better in that way, too. [11:55] members, questions? [12:00] Blinsey. In your letter, you kind of mentioning that the total repair [12:07] cost for the church and the schoolhouse is estimate to be 1.25 between 1.25 and 1.5 million. [12:15] So you're asking for 300 from the 300,000 from the CBC. So you are you going to cover the rest of [12:25] or is there only part one more of that funding request? [12:29] This is part one. [12:31] And then maybe there'll be two and three. [12:34] We have some strategies for raising money ourselves. [12:39] And the board of the schoolhouse is working on fundraising [12:43] as well. [12:44] And they rent from us for $1 a year [12:50] and then use the proceeds of the rent that they collect [12:54] from the artists who are housed there to maintain the building. So they have some resources as well. [13:00] But we anticipate that the work that is included in the architects study and needs to be done [13:08] will take place over a period of at least 10 years because some of the things that they cost it out [13:15] are, for example, a roof replacement that we don't think needs to happen for 10 to 15 years. [13:21] So it's going to be spread over time. [13:24] Thank you. [13:26] What we're really glad to do at this point is to fund the repair of the tower. [13:31] Right. [13:32] Right. [13:34] Anyone else? [13:35] Thank you. [13:39] Nobody? [13:40] All right. [13:41] Sarah, is there anyone here for public comment? [13:45] No, there is not. [13:46] Nobody here on this one. [13:48] All right, members. [13:49] This is a letter of intent. [13:51] We need a motion to move it to application. [13:55] Anyone so inclined? [13:59] I'll make a motion to move this left of intent into the application phase. [14:05] Zero second. [14:08] I'll second that one. [14:09] Thank you, Deb. [14:12] Further discussion? [14:14] Members? [14:16] Seeing none? [14:17] I'll call the roll. [14:20] Terry, do I miss? [14:21] Is he coming yet? [14:22] No. [14:24] Maryland's here though. [14:27] Maryland? [14:30] Maryland? [14:32] Are you there? [14:35] Well, I'll come back. [14:36] Sorry, I'm sorry. I was muted. And I vote yes. Okay. Sorry. [14:43] Maryland votes yes. Deb. Yes. [14:47] Catherine Garafoli. You'll be in. Yes. [14:50] Tom Lee. Yes. [14:52] Folly Lewis. Yes. [14:55] Stephen Robeshot. These are abstaining. [15:01] James Sinalia? Yes. And Lindsey council votes yes. Thank you, thank you, Crystal. We'll see you soon, I'm sure. I hope so. And thank you so much for giving me time and attention on this matter. You're very welcome. Good night. Good night. Okay. Next item is a letter of intent has been received from Tales of Cape Cod Incorporated, requesting $100,000 in community preservation, [15:29] historic preservation funds to provide accessibility to the building by installing a lift leading [15:35] to a new accessible entrance on the east side of the building and regrading to create an accessible [15:41] walkway to the building. Total estimated cost of the project is $330,000 with matching funds [15:48] to be provided through grants and private donations. And I think I saw a gene [15:54] and Gil here, yes, you presenting this stream, you muted. [16:04] Okay, can you hear me? [16:05] Yes. [16:06] Thank you, Lindsay. [16:07] And thank you to the members of the committee [16:10] for allowing us to present our letter of interest. [16:14] The O'Colonial Court House is one of the most historic buildings [16:17] on Cape Cod, built in 1763. [16:20] It serves as the courthouse for Barnesville County [16:23] in the final years of the colonial period [16:25] throughout the Revolutionary War. [16:27] and during the first 50 years of our republic. [16:32] When the current courthouse was built in 1833, [16:38] this building became a townhouse, [16:40] and ten years later it became a Baptist church. [16:43] It was modified to look like a New England neoclassical Baptist church at that time. [16:50] The Baptist church merged with the first Baptist church of Barnstable [16:56] in 1972, and the building was purchased by Tales of Cape Cod at that time to preserve [17:05] it for future generations. Tales of Cape Cod has involved in a multi-year program [17:11] to restore and preserve this building. In our most recent project, we repaired the first [17:17] floor framing of the building. We did receive a grant from Barnstable CPC of, I believe, [17:25] $75,000 for that work that represented about 40% of the total cost of the project. [17:32] However, because the cost of that construction work exceeded 30% of the assessed value of the [17:39] building, Massachusetts law requires that our building now be made fully compliant with the regulations [17:46] regarding access for people with disabilities. Tales of Cape Cod has worked with the [17:52] Massachusetts architectural access board to identify the specific tasks which must be done [17:58] and the schedule for bringing this building into compliance. I emphasised that the project [18:06] that I am describing I will describe is not only a matter of preference for making the building [18:14] accessible to all people it is also required under state law. I did have a couple of slides [18:21] Are they available or if not, I will just talk through there they are. [18:29] Can we back up one? [18:37] Our first work, when we first started working on this project, [18:41] we engaged the architectural firm of Catalyst from Yarmuth, [18:44] Yarmuth, as well as Rick Lam Associates, [18:48] the Landscape Architect firm of Rick Lam Associates from Cambridge, [18:52] as well as Barnstable. [18:54] The project team identified three constraints. [18:58] The first is the relatively small size of the property on which the building sets. [19:03] The second is the relatively steep grade of the property from the sidewalk to the first floor of the building. [19:11] And the third is the desire and need to preserve the historical character of the building and principal architectural features. [19:19] Our initial efforts focused on trying to build a or design a ramp or incline that would [19:26] connect to the south porch of the building. [19:29] This approach was eventually rejected because we realized that the ramp would have to be [19:34] over 60 feet in length, making it the dominant architectural feature of the building. [19:40] The plan that we have accepted calls for adding a mechanical lift on the east side of the building. [19:49] Adding a new porch and entrance on the east side of the building, [19:54] regrading and enlarging the current parking space and creating an accessible walkway from the sidewalk to the lift. [20:03] The project does not include enhancements to the interior accessibility of the building [20:08] and this will be done in a subsequent project. [20:12] The next slide, please. [20:15] This slide shows that most of all of the work on this project will be done on the east side [20:22] or the top of this slide. [20:25] Going from the sidewalk, which would be on your right, we have regraded, we propose regrading [20:31] the parking lot, building a walkway to the east side of the building. [20:35] The lift would be placed on the east side of the building as illustrated in yellow and a porch then connecting the lift to an accessible entrance on the east side of the building. [20:51] One point that I will mention is that there is a zoning issue and we are in discussions with the town commissioner regarding that. [21:02] At this point, a date has not been set for a petition to the zoning board of appeals. [21:10] And there is some question as to whether that is necessary because this is a project intended [21:15] to bring the building into compliance with state laws. [21:19] The next slide, please. [21:24] Sources of funds, Tales of Cape Cod is committed 103,000 for this project. [21:30] We have raised 63,000 of that amount and I am confident that we are on schedule to [21:37] remain raised the remaining amount. [21:40] We have applied to the Massachusetts Cultural Facilities Fund for 130,000. [21:45] We expect a response to that grant application later this month. [21:51] The final 100,000 is, it is our hope that we will make an application to the Barnesville [21:59] Community Preservation Fund. [22:02] The uses of these funds, the total construction projects will be approximately $300,000, [22:11] architectural fees, engineering fees, and other soft fees amount to $34,000, bringing us to the [22:18] total of $333,000. Next slide. [22:26] This is a timeline for the work we have completed the schematic designs. [22:32] We are in the what we call the permitting phase. We have discussed the project with our neighbors. [22:37] We have received an approval from Oak Kings Highway. We have also received an approval from the [22:44] Massachusetts Historical Commission which owns a preservation restriction on the building. [22:50] because the town of Barnstable also owns a preservation restriction on the building and my understanding is that that was contingent upon the approval of Oakings highway, which we received last week. [23:06] I mentioned that we are in conversations with the building commissioner regarding the zoning issue and that I expect will be resolved within 30 days. [23:18] fund raising has started. We had an annual appeal, which has brought us up to the 63,000 [23:26] that I mentioned. We are in a silent phase in the capital campaign, which will last. I [23:34] didn't calculate the months, but in to 2023, we have applied to the Massachusetts Culture [23:43] facilities fund and we are in the process hopefully of applying to the Community Preservation Committee. [23:49] The actual construction phase of this work is not scheduled to start until November. [23:55] Our desired schedule would be to have the construction project start in November and run through March [24:04] because of the uncertainties in the current construction market and the backlog of many contractors. [24:13] We recognize that that might be delayed [24:15] and it might be a spring project [24:17] rather than a winter project. [24:20] The next slide please. [24:23] This, the left hand picture is a picture of the building. [24:28] The intent of including that here is just to illustrate [24:31] that we're not changing. [24:32] Our proposal does not change the appearance of the building [24:36] from the public highways, [24:40] both Main Street as well as Rhonda Boulain. [24:42] The view from the driveway you can see the lift on the far right hand side, which is the east side of the building and the expanded walkway, expanded parking lot and walkway leading to that. [25:00] So this, the intent is minimal interference or change to the historic appearance of the building. [25:06] the building remains a dominant feature for people entering [25:12] Barnstonville Village from the West. It is on the contributing [25:18] property for the National Register and on [25:27] the state register of historical [25:28] places. [25:31] That concludes my comments and I'm happy to answer any questions that [25:35] you might have. Thank you, Gene. Members, [25:45] I have a question, Gene. [25:46] I mean, is this part of the lift going to be covered at all by a dimension porch? Is there going to be a roof on that? [25:54] The intent, yes. The intent is that there will be a roof over the lift. [26:00] And the north side of that is likely to be open, meaning that it will be covered from the rain, but it will not be enclosed. [26:12] because it will not be heated, it will not be cooled. [26:16] And I'd want to avoid, you know, the issue of dampness [26:19] and odour in the left space. [26:22] So part of it will be open. [26:24] The part opening onto the porch will be open. [26:29] Thank you, because I've seen those ones [26:31] that are just left by themselves seem to rust out [26:33] in about five years, and then they're done. [26:36] So that's great that you're covering it. [26:39] anyone else? [26:43] Catherine, did you raise your hand? No. Okay. Any other members? No? [26:54] All right. Sarah, is [26:55] there anyone here for public comment on this item? Thank you very much. [27:04] Any other thoughts, comments? [27:06] any one have a motion? This is a letter of intent so it will be moved to application. [27:17] Lindsay, I move that we move this application from Tales of Cape Cod to an application. [27:27] Thank you. Is there a second? [27:31] I'll set it to the board. [27:34] Okay. Steve, did he win? [27:37] Yeah, he won. [27:38] Okay, one. [27:38] All right, moving to seconded to move the letter of intent from Tales of Cape Cod to application. [27:47] Any other comments from members or anything? Seeing none, I'll call the roll. [27:56] Cherry hasn't joined us. Maryland Firefield. [28:00] Yes. [28:01] Deb Converse. [28:03] Yeah. [28:05] Yes. [28:11] Yes. [28:14] Yes. [28:16] Yes. [28:16] Yes. [28:16] Thank you. [28:16] Farley Lewis. [28:17] Yes. [28:18] Steven Robeshard. [28:20] Yes. [28:21] James Finalia. [28:22] Yes. [28:23] And Lindsay Council votes yes. [28:26] Thank you very much, Jean. [28:28] Thank you. [28:28] With your application. [28:30] Thank you very much. [28:31] Lindsay, I just want to compliment them. [28:33] and their increased programming. [28:36] It looks very interesting [28:38] for the summer actually started soon, isn't it? [28:42] We have an excellent program tonight. [28:45] So if you wrap up in time, Greg Williams is speaking. [28:48] Thank you. [28:49] Yes, that's quite a line up. [28:51] Great work on that. [28:52] Good. [28:54] All right. [28:55] You're welcome. [28:57] That's it for the letters of intent. [29:00] We have no applications to consider. [29:03] So that leaves us the review of the fiscal year 2022 CPC plan revisions in a possible vote to accept. [29:12] I think it looked great. [29:14] The pie charts look awesome, and I think it's our best for yet. [29:19] Any other comments, numbers? [29:22] I agree. [29:23] Yeah, I thought it looked great too. [29:24] And I checked. [29:26] I edited the housing piece and it looked great to me. [29:29] It looks fabulous. There was one little glitch. If you look on page nine, the graphic is overlaying the last paragraph at the top of the page, but look at that to Elizabeth. [29:44] It was great. [29:47] Yeah. [29:49] Lindsay, at the bottom of page nine, the table is cut in half. [29:53] That may be a formatting issue on that. [29:56] I think there's room on there to get everything, but it just needs to be [30:00] Let's move around. That's not a big deal. I agree, Lindsay. I think that it can all fit on page nine. That's it. All right. We'll get that in. Any other comments, suggestions? [30:12] Take a motion to approve it with with the page nine work. Lindsay, I'll make that motion to approve the fiscal year 2022 action plan with the [30:29] the formatting modifications to page nine that we discussed. [30:34] I'll second it. [30:36] Thank you. [30:38] Any, I guess I should ask. [30:40] Well, this isn't a hearing, but does anyone else want to speak to this at this point? [30:46] No. All right. [30:48] I will call the vote. [30:53] Mal and five field. [30:54] Yes. [30:56] Deb Converts. [30:58] Yes. [30:58] Yes. [30:59] Yes. [30:59] Katherine Garrafoli. [31:00] Yes. [31:02] Tom Lee. [31:03] Yes. [31:05] Folly Lewis. [31:06] Yes. [31:07] Stephen Robyshaw. [31:09] Yes. [31:10] James Sinalia. [31:11] Yes. [31:13] Lindsey Council votes yes. [31:14] Great work, everyone. [31:15] And thanks to Elizabeth Jenkins and her staff too. [31:19] The next item will be the, the handbook. [31:24] We'll be circulating that around. [31:25] I think I announced it. [31:26] The last meeting we're looking for photos. [31:28] So if you've got any good ones, we'd like to update those talking driving around. [31:34] You see something we did and you like it. [31:36] This screen. [31:37] Take a shot. [31:40] All right. [31:42] I guess I'm up to any other public comment. [31:45] No, Sarah. [31:46] No one out there. [31:49] No, you're all right. [31:50] Thank you. [31:53] All right. [31:54] We'll move to general discussion. [31:55] Tomorrow, we have our site visit to Armstrong, Kelly Park. [32:00] and I confirmed with Kate Connelly, she'll be there tomorrow, and I think that'll be good to walk that site and take a look at what they're proposing and get that project moving. [32:15] Let's see. [32:16] Go ahead. [32:16] Yes, I'm planning to attend tomorrow. [32:18] I just wanted to know where you guys were all playing to park. [32:23] Are you going to be in that circle? [32:24] or are you? I'm going to get out of Wimpy's behind Wimpy's of the old, yeah the old Wimpy park. [32:30] It's a short walk. She's right though. It's tough to get in and out and there's a lot of folks have a lunch there. [32:37] So I'm going to park back there. Okay. Great. Thanks. And Lindsay, we're kind of meeting at that circle area. [32:45] Yeah. 1130. Yep. Perfect. Thank you. That'll be good. Anything else on that one? Everyone good? [32:55] The next time we had to change the date of the June 20th meeting to June 13th, we forgot [33:04] that the 20th is June, June, so we moved it to the 13th, so it will be a week earlier [33:13] than we originally scheduled. [33:17] is a planning board meeting that night, but that is usually fine. [33:21] We usually finish up in time. [33:23] So, all right. [33:24] Well, we'll make it happen. [33:27] We also have the upcoming election of officers. [33:29] And a guy already mentioned the updating of the handbook. [33:32] So that's our year-end stuff. [33:35] We can get that handbook done by, say, Labor Day. [33:38] We'll be in real good shape. [33:42] Any questions that I forget anything, Ellen? [33:47] I don't think so. [33:48] So I don't think so, Lindsay. [33:50] I think we're good shit. [33:53] We did receive the semi-in report [33:56] from the Affordable House Housing Growth [33:58] and Development Trust Fund. [33:59] You all received a copy of that. [34:02] It's good to see they get their RFP out for their projects. [34:07] And I'm looking forward to working with them further. [34:12] I think it's a great program [34:14] and that has really worked out well for us, I think. [34:18] Any comments on the report? Any clarifications needed or anything? Nope. Nope. All right. [34:27] Lindsay, I have a question. Certainly. So, under administrative support. Yes. [34:35] It says for this quarter that the trust only extended $2,600. And I was that that just seems so low for an entire quarter's worth of work for the [34:47] that? I don't think there's any full-time staff, right? I don't know. I get it. But that [34:54] might not be, include salaries and that kind of thing. Usually those are carried separately. [34:59] So that little block, and Ellen, you can check on that for us. I think that's just other [35:05] items, not salary, and those kinds of things. But we'll check. [35:11] Get back here on that. [35:20] Any [35:21] rooms as retired and they were hiring somebody else if you heard anything about that. [35:28] Yes, Ruth did retire, but I'm not sure. Are you going to use a staff person to take [35:36] the lead in there? I'm not sure what the status is. They hired a consultant. Our name is Jill [35:42] Douglas. She has quite a few years of experience with housing. [35:48] I think those hours that you're [35:50] I think for the 2,600, I think those are my owls because I do minutes for them and post agendas [36:00] and do some other administrative work for them. And that's actually for a happy, not a corner. [36:09] All right, so that is staff. That's through our payroll that we support you. Okay, very good. [36:18] then thanks for that clarification. [36:20] Lindsay, I have a question. [36:21] Can we get an updated accounting of where we stand with, [36:25] you know, what needs to be spent in rec and historic, [36:28] and what's in the undesonated funds, [36:31] and just looking through the, you know, the report, you know, [36:35] we were net positive $3 million last year, [36:39] whatever it was, or, you know, didn't spend $3 million [36:42] if you will, can just kind of get an updated accounting [36:46] of where we stand. [36:47] Yes, we can. We didn't get one this month, right? Ellen from Mark. I believe the last, the last one we had was December. [36:56] Right. I did not, I did not get one from Mark Mel this, this time. [37:02] But we'd be sure to have him provide one for the June meeting. Yes, I will ask for it very early on so that it's not a surprise. [37:12] Okay. Very good. Thanks for that, Jim. Thank you. Anything else of that nature? [37:24] I did we did get the newsletter a few weeks back and it looks like the match from the state is going to be the same in the 3035% range. [37:34] So, you know, they've done a great job up there to coalition to keep the legislature involved and engaged. So that's that's good news for us. [37:46] Lisa, one other thing. One other quick question. You know, somebody was working on looking at the town properties that we could potentially pay for housing on. Has that gone anywhere? I feel like we haven't heard anything on that either. [37:58] This this fair reviewing knows individual properties. Yeah, I know one one town property [38:05] They're looking at and would might be one of the first out of the box is the property [38:09] That's next to the police station that they keep using for construction purposes. Yeah, I think at some point [38:15] Where's that you know when Finney's Lane is done and that that would be at the top of the list because the sewer line [38:22] little sewer line goes right through there from across the street at the natural resource [38:30] office. You know, when they connected those condominiums on Lake Lecoucett, they ran [38:35] the line through the back of a police station and out. So I'm sure that's on the list. [38:40] Other ones, I don't think they've determined. [38:47] Any other questions, members? [38:49] I just have a comment that if anybody is interested housing assistance corporation then the [38:57] can't remember the name of the this is an elder glitch here. The name of Andrew Gottlieb's [39:05] organization have done an interactive map identifying areas that are primed for development meaning [39:17] Well, they have all sorts of criteria, but I think they have an information session [39:23] at the end of May, May 31st or something. It's on their website. [39:27] And I think it's a fabulous thing that they did. [39:31] So I'd urge everybody to see if you can be there or get the map. [39:40] Yes, I agree with that, Deb. I checked that out yesterday. [39:44] That is quite an effort that they put together with housing assistance to really identify priority properties [39:52] That are you know environmentally safe if you will to put this put these type of projects on. Yeah [39:59] So yes, I agree. That's a great report and I [40:03] Had a little issue with the key dab, you know, it was a little bit not quite up this enough [40:08] I think they could add a couple more things to it but I love that though the work itself was great [40:15] anyone else? All right. Seeing none, I'll run through the project updates. [40:25] The [40:25] Couture and Federated Church was approved by the town council and the historic [40:32] preservation restriction, Boba Harris's at work with them on that. [40:38] The [40:38] principal Little League application was approved as well with that meeting and the [40:43] The league is drafting a draft user agreement with David Anthony, and they'll be working [40:48] with the manager on that. [40:52] Let's see. [40:53] What else? [40:58] Yes, again, the two public work projects, Bostonville Recreation site, it's actually not [41:05] the building. [41:06] It's just the site for the playground. [41:11] and the Zion Heritage Museum, they'll be in in June. [41:20] And then we are anticipating a revised application from the [41:23] Boston Community Innovation School for their playground on the north side of their property on versus way. [41:34] And again, the Boston Historical Society, have you heard anything on that one, Ellen? [41:38] Are they still working on that restriction? [41:39] I think they're doing photographs. I think that's the last step they needed to get photographs. [41:47] Yeah, because they are, you know, speaking of projects and the current cost of construction, [41:53] it's just eclipse since they even, since they got approval. So they need to get going on that. [42:01] And the midpoint housing, midpoint community housing, that's basically a trust project. So [42:06] they'll be updating us in the future on that anything else anything I missed none [42:18] any [42:20] other items the members would like to discuss if [42:26] not I'll entertain a motion to adjourn [42:30] motion to adjourn I will second it discussion on the motion seeing none I'll call the [42:38] Roe, Marilyn Feifield. Yes. Deb Converse. Yes. [42:44] Katherine Garafoli. Yes. Tom Lee. Yes. [42:49] Folly Lewis. Yes. Steven Robeshod. Yes. [42:54] James Sinalia. Yes. [42:56] and Lindsey Council. [42:58] Both C.S. All right, members. [43:01] It was a quick one this time. [43:03] night. All right. Good night. [43:06] Good night.