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Executive session.

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Everyone's on board. Everyone's here.

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Go ahead and fire it up. Okay.

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Good afternoon council and guests.

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Today is Tuesday, September 1st, 2026.

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It is very close to 5:00 PM

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and I will call this regular council meeting,

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regular meeting of the Berry City Council to order.

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First item on the agenda is any adjustments to

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and approval of the agenda?

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Yes,

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I would just like to request the IUC,

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the flood resiliency update.

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We basically consider the auditorium update

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as the flood resiliency update.

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Yep. And move it off the agenda officially.

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So noted. Thank you Mr. Acting.

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Any adjustments to the agenda? Yes sir. Counsel. Okay.

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Motion to approve would be an order. So moved. Second.

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Thank you. It's moved and seconded. Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none. All those in favor? The motion is presented.

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Please signify by saying aye. Aye. And those opposed?

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The agenda is approved.

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A motion to go into executive or for findings. Excuse me.

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For executive session, we're going

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to be talking about personnel,

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specifically the city manager search.

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It's so moved. Thank you. Second. It's moved and seconded.

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Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor?

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The motion is presented. Please signify by saying aye. Aye.

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And those opposed? Thank you.

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And a motion to enter executive session will be in order.

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So moved. Second. Moved and seconded.

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And we will be asking

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what the heck We can ask everybody here to join us.

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We can ask. Council will be joining us.

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The acting will be joining us.

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These nice folks will be joining us.

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Cheryl, you can join us. Hey it. Dude, you can join us too.

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We like you

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It, Dude.

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It's all good. We try. If we didn't trust you,

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you wouldn't be sitting in this room.

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So, but thanks any, I was like, no, I'm going home. See you.

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This is like, I'm outta here.

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God, I do have one, which is

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that Dominic Cloud will be joining us,

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but he's running a little bit late.

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He is on his way from Randolph.

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Hopefully not speeding too much.

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Okay. You, but you can let him into the Yeah,

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I told him that he should knock on the door.

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That it will be closed and Bell be an executive session and

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You can just, he Here in person.

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Do you want me to put up a sign and maybe five, 10 minutes?

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I'm sorry. Do you want me to put up the sign?

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Oh, no one ever. You know, most people don't come.

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They don't come here. I mean you can if you like.

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Well, someone, someone came in is, I don't,

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don't think they, oh thanks Brian.

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You need *****

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At home about they can't.

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Thank you Brian.

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Okay. Motion is made and seconded.

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Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor?

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The motion is presented. Please signify by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

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Counsel will be in executive session. Just a moment

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On one sec.

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Thank you. Sonya. Do you need us to wait? No. No. Okay.

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Okay. We are, thank you everyone. Thank you.

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So we are, we are unmuted and, and we are back live.

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So a motion to exit executive session

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would be appropriate. So moved.

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Second. Thank you. Is moved and seconded.

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Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor?

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The motion is presented. Please signify by saying aye. Aye.

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And those opposed counsel is in open session

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and so I would call for item four on the agenda, which is

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visitors and communications.

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Is there anyone wishing to address the council

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regarding an item that is not on the agenda?

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Bene rose.

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Okay. Thank you. Mayor, can you hear me?

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I'm working on it. Barely. Yeah, we're working on it.

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Sorry, Bern. Give a second. Give,

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Is it output volume?

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It's, sorry, it's TVs.

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No, don't The tv.

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Oh yeah, that's better. Okay. Try it again. Burn.

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Hi everyone. You look fantastic

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tonight. Did you hear that?

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Yes. Oh good. Especially you Mr. Mayor.

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You look really awesome.

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Can you hear her? Can I, nah,

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There's a lot of background noise right now. Yeah,

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That's why.

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Hey, if we can't have fun, right?

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Yeah, I have a couple of things

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and I'm just gonna read them to you

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and then as, as people are able to address them

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in their work, that would be wonderful.

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So could we please put out the sandwich board

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in front of city hall?

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Alerting residents to the upcoming school vote on suburb

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September 15th and on the e-board for the Civic Center.

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So many people do not realize we're having a school vote

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and it's important for us all.

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The next thing is,

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although larger stones have filled in the washouts on our

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street, they are dislodged by heavier rains

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and DPW has to then come and move them out of the street.

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And they also fill my neighbor's yard.

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I hope that going forward the city will repair, replace

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failed drains when repaving as not doing

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that is causing our street

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to also be undermined every storm.

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And I just wanna thank the DPW workers, the water

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and sewer workers because they have just all been out

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straight for their hard work in all kinds of weather.

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And lastly, there's an amazing event coming up at the Berry

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City Elementary Middle School.

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It's put on by the Flynn Theater

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and it's called Playing Fields.

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All are welcomed and it's free.

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It's Tuesday, September 8th from six to 8:00 PM

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and it's really, looks like it's gonna be quite an

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event out outdoors.

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I, I've never been to one,

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but they're doing them all around Vermont as a way

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to give back to our communities.

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So thank you very much for hearing these things and Ms.

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Cheryl, I will be happy

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to send you a little blurb about each

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of these things if you would like that.

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Thank you Barry. Thank you. You're

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Welcome.

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If I may briefly address Yes, I drove by

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and noted that the election is on the

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e-board for the civic center.

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Already got that already. So we can check that off.

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Great. Thank you. Okay.

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Anyone else Under visitors and communications?

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Okay, hearing and seeing no one Counsel will move on

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to the consent agenda will be approving the minutes

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of the regular meeting of 8 25 26.

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We will be ratifying Alan McCullough.

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Adam McCullough's appointment is tree warden.

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We'll be approving resolution 2026 dash 13, which is

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to apply for a tier B status with the land use review board.

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There was quite a bit of information. Your packet on that.

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Do you have any office license?

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The clerk has no office licenses or permits

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and I don't believe you have any contracts for signature.

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So a motion to approve would be in order. So moved.

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Thank you. Second. And moved and seconded.

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Is there any discussion or questions? Yes.

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Just brief discussion, which is that I'm pleased

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that we are about to ratify.

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Adam McCullough is the tree warden.

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We've already picked up a conversation, Carol and Adam

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and I, because there are some weird

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and conflicting pieces of ordinance about the tree warden

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and the activities.

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So we are taking a look at them to make them make sense.

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So you may see that in a future council meeting.

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Awesome. Any other questions or discussion? Yes,

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I have.

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I just have a question. Under new business under the

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C-D-B-G-D-R applications we talked about

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that says the plan includes green space

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and housing in the WBE park space.

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Was it the WBE park space or was it the front?

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No, it was the, the housing would be located at Wabe Park

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and then the other and then the green space

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would be in front.

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In the front. Yeah. Where, I apologize,

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I forget the addresses.

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Janet probably has some memorized.

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What are, what were Salvation RVs?

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What are the properties that encompass the green space

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and the DR applications?

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It's 5 5 53

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Okay, I was confused. Yep. So thank you for that.

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Not at all. Application. And then one more thing under the

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high watermark project, Danielle Ozaki,

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it's Jim Desler

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and I can get you the proper spelling of that name.

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Okay. I don't have it, but I just wanted to make sure

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that it's correct in nine minutes.

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And that's all. Thank you. You're

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Welcome.

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Any other questions or discussion? Hearing none.

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All those in favor? The motion is presented.

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Please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed?

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Thank you very much. Counsel will move on

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to item five A on the agenda.

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We'll be approving the city warrants for the week of 9 2 26.

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A motion would be in order.

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So moved. Second. Thank

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Moved and seconded. Thank you. Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none. All those in favor? The motion is presented.

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Please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

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And those opposed? Motion carries. Any abstentions? No.

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Thank you Ms. City Clerk.

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Yeah, how are you? I'm doing well,

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Thank you.

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We are going to start

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with the Berry Unified Union School District Budget.

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Revote is scheduled again for Tuesday, September 15th.

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Elections will be again at Alumni Hall from 7:00 AM

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to 7:00 PM All ballots must be returned

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by 7:00 PM on that date to count.

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Currently we have issued 449 absentee ballots

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and have received 156 back.

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In addition to Tuesday the 15th being election day,

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it is also the deadline for the first quarter

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of property taxes.

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And because we, the city no longer,

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no longer accepts Postmarks as a timeline

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for receiving them, they must be in the city clerk's hands

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or office by Tuesday,

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September 15th at 4:30 PM

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Next water and sewer bills were mailed out on

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Friday, August 28th.

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The due date is Wednesday, September 30th.

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And again, all payments must be received in the office

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by five, excuse me, 4:30 PM on that date

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to be considered timely.

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And last but not least, BYSA football is scheduled

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to hold a coin drop Saturday the fifth

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on Main Street in front of Domino's.

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Thank you. Any questions? Counsel?

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You you needed that right?

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Oh Yes. Relu resolution. Okay. And,

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And warrant? Yes.

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Yep. So no questions Counsel, we will move on to Liquor

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and Cannabis control board.

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I don't think we have nothing, anything on the agenda there.

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We will move on to the acting city manager's report.

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Alright, chief, how are you? I

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Am well, thank you.

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We had, Alberta Miller is our executive office assistant

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here in city Hall.

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She started yesterday.

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Carol and Jeannie

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and Janet have been working with her,

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getting her up to speed on some things.

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She's doing really well.

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Janet and her team successfully submitted the round three

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C-D-B-G-D-R-I can never say that.

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Application for 1 43 North Maine and the North end buyouts

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and housing nine River Street was just awarded under the

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FEMA bi FEMA buyouts.

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That leaves just two yet to be awarded three *****

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and eight Harrington.

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And the fire department Deputy chief process Phase two is

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underway this week with interviews.

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And then lastly, all things paving

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and construction continue.

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I think we're keeping the car washes in business.

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As you look around the city, there's,

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there's a lot of dust flying.

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SD Ireland is coming in to put a top coat on Camp Street,

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and then they're gonna be beginning the overlay on South

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Maine and Washington next week.

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And tell me what happens

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to traffic while they're doing that.

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So the tra the overlay, you mean? Yeah.

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So they're gonna be doing the overlay at night.

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They're gonna be working. It's all night work.

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One of the things that Brian had said that they wanted

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to do first was the

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62 Maple North Maine intersection Because

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of the Yeah,

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The Roller coaster.

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The roller coaster. Yeah.

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So they're, they're gonna be doing that first, I believe.

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And then they're, they're doing Washington South Maine.

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I'm not sure which one they're doing first coming

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down, but that's all night work.

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It's night work. And they will

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maintain one lane of traffic.

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Correct. Gotcha. Yes.

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Okay. There is, there is some work going on up

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on Washington Street.

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There's at Highland in Washington where the washout is.

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There's a three day thing they're working on

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that may be down to one lane,

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but they're looking at a different way to do it.

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So it doesn't have to be three full days. Gotcha.

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'cause that would cause some concern.

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Yes, it would. Any questions, counsel?

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So we're getting it done.

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Do you know when they're gonna complete the

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railroad crossing on Hill Street?

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Like the paving? I

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Think it's next week.

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Okay. But I'm not sure I can look into

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That.

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So that will probably close

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that street probably for the day.

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Yes. And that's always a bit of a challenge if they could,

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you know, if this any way that they could delay that even

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until eight 30 when the buses go

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through it just makes such a huge difference.

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Yep. You know, it, it really does.

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And then take a little break when the buses go back,

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you don't realize how much you Ms. West Patterson Street

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until, and no, we're gonna be talking about this winter

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that, that, that this winter, there are two streets in Barry

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that remain closed because of the 23 storm.

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Yep. One is West Patterson.

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And I think we all recognize, especially

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with the construction on South Maine

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and Hill Street, we all recognize how, how really important

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that that street is.

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And then of course, Nelson, which is much,

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much less important, but people still miss it.

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So this winter we are gonna have a contra conversation

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with Brian about how, how we get West Patterson open.

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What is the cost, how do we do it? What is the timeline?

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It's just, you know, one of those things where it's you,

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you miss it when you miss it.

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And then when you sit here in the council chambers,

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not when we're talking about other priorities and paving

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and infrastructure, not so much.

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But it, it's been quite a while. It's

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Like Holden Street in Berry Town.

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I went up it today in four years. Yeah. It's gorgeous.

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And people take that shortcut.

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Yeah. So, yeah.

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So we've figured it out and we'll be,

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and it's, you know, people deserve, you know, we haven't,

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we've had our challenges.

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We haven't revisited.

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So what I'd like to do this winter

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is well, let's make a decision.

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Either it's going to be permanently closed

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and we'll make it that way,

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or we're gonna work to get it open.

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It, it's kind of gotta be one or the other.

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I just would jump in briefly, Mary, to, to build on the,

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the road work.

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They've been working on Seminary Street,

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which is right out on the corner from my house.

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So I've been without water during the day

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for two days, which has been a bummer for me.

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But the communication was superb.

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I had a big old orange note

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that was briefly terrifying tapes to my door,

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but I brought it inside and taped it over my sink.

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So I would not open the faucet during those days.

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I pulled out the camping kit

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and drew water in the big bin there for

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during the day for the couple of days.

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And I saw him on all the other houses on, on my,

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on the streets in my neighborhood.

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So yeah, so just props for, for the communication

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and the sharing out ahead of time

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and it's an important project. I'm glad it's getting done.

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01:16:35,195 --> 01:16:37,925
Cool. Okay.

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Anything else for the acting manager?

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01:16:42,515 --> 01:16:44,325
Okay, counsel, then we will move on

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to item nine A on the agenda, we need

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to appoint a very representative to the VCRD

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Vermont Community Leadership Summit.

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What are your thoughts?

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My thoughts are that, I've dropped the ball on this a

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little bit, but I had a couple of that's suggestions

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for folks that could be great representatives of,

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of the berry community.

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01:17:06,715 --> 01:17:10,205
Josh Jerome, who has served ably on the city manager search

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committee, as well as the director of the BACD Po Mattino,

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01:17:14,665 --> 01:17:17,485
who is a wonderful servant on the police advisory committee

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and is also the executive director

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of the Rainbow Bridge Community Center downtown.

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And there are a number of members of city staff

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who could also tremendously benefit from this

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opportunity as well.

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Janet Shay comes, comes top of mind for me.

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So those are a couple of ideas I had ahead of time.

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01:17:35,645 --> 01:17:38,885
I don't know if other folks wanna suggest names or

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01:17:39,315 --> 01:17:41,845
Where'd Janet out? She was just here. I

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Know.

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01:17:42,845 --> 01:17:44,765
Well, we got, we we passed, we passed the land use.

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01:17:45,305 --> 01:17:47,645
No, that's okay. She's had, she's had a long day.

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So I imagine she wanted to get home.

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01:17:50,505 --> 01:17:52,685
You know, my, my thought was,

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my thought was Janet,

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and if Janet is, if Janet is

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unwilling or her schedule simply,

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01:18:05,005 --> 01:18:07,565
I don't think Janet would be unwilling if her schedule

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doesn't allow, then we, I was going to let the acting

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and Carol pick an alternate.

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01:18:17,305 --> 01:18:20,565
No, I didn't ask you.

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01:18:20,965 --> 01:18:23,245
I said pick an alternate.

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01:18:23,945 --> 01:18:26,965
And, and those names that you presented council, they Yeah,

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01:18:26,965 --> 01:18:29,925
both wonderful names were wonderful names.

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01:18:30,145 --> 01:18:32,365
But, but again, if it's something

403
01:18:32,365 --> 01:18:36,925
that Janet is interested in at, in attending, I know most

404
01:18:36,925 --> 01:18:38,845
of the time her work schedule prevents her

405
01:18:38,955 --> 01:18:40,245
from attending a lot of these events.

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01:18:40,765 --> 01:18:43,045
I don't want, do I really want to give her this opportunity?

407
01:18:43,145 --> 01:18:46,445
She worked very hard getting the DR applications in.

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01:18:46,585 --> 01:18:48,885
So if, if Janet would like

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01:18:48,885 --> 01:18:50,965
that opportunity, I'm fine with that.

410
01:18:51,145 --> 01:18:54,445
So I don't think we need a formal motion necessarily.

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01:18:54,495 --> 01:18:56,645
We're all okay with that. We'll offer to Janet first

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01:18:56,825 --> 01:18:58,085
and if not, we'll let Carol

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01:18:58,185 --> 01:19:01,925
and the acting pick an alternate.

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01:19:02,305 --> 01:19:03,605
And if you wanna work with them on

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01:19:03,605 --> 01:19:04,765
that council, I'm happy to Yes.

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01:19:04,765 --> 01:19:06,885
Yeah, go right ahead because I think, you know,

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01:19:06,885 --> 01:19:08,045
those were all wonderful names.

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01:19:09,555 --> 01:19:13,125
Okay, we'll move to item eight, nine B on the agenda.

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01:19:13,515 --> 01:19:16,525
This is the update on the auditorium renovations project.

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01:19:17,585 --> 01:19:19,485
Mr. Baker, how are you? I'm

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01:19:19,485 --> 01:19:22,325
Good Counsel.

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01:19:22,465 --> 01:19:25,485
You did have some information on the packet in this regard.

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01:19:26,035 --> 01:19:27,035
Take it away.

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01:19:28,715 --> 01:19:29,845
Make a long story short.

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01:19:29,945 --> 01:19:34,285
We are at the mercy of USDA approving our

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01:19:35,205 --> 01:19:39,325
drawings and our, the drawings for the, the plot.

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01:19:39,785 --> 01:19:44,605
We are at USDA's whim on when they can approve 'em.

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01:19:45,105 --> 01:19:47,085
We are now eight weeks into that process.

429
01:19:49,225 --> 01:19:51,005
We are eight weeks into it.

430
01:19:51,025 --> 01:19:53,165
And they have not approved the drawings. They,

431
01:19:53,405 --> 01:19:57,485
They approve, they came back with one set

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01:19:57,485 --> 01:19:58,805
of questions.

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01:19:59,315 --> 01:20:01,525
They, and we sent them back

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01:20:01,525 --> 01:20:03,085
and we still haven't heard back from 'em.

435
01:20:04,515 --> 01:20:08,005
Okay. And what does that do to the schedule?

436
01:20:09,665 --> 01:20:12,045
It is pushing us way back right now.

437
01:20:14,105 --> 01:20:17,485
We did swap out the boilers that we're gonna be putting in,

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01:20:18,255 --> 01:20:20,725
going from a one piece unit to a sectional unit.

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01:20:21,665 --> 01:20:25,045
It cuts the lead time from 12 weeks to eight, six weeks.

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01:20:26,865 --> 01:20:29,925
And we're just kind of waiting right now to,

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01:20:30,465 --> 01:20:32,605
to see if we can get it in this year,

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If we can, If we can get the,

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01:20:35,745 --> 01:20:38,205
get this renovation done in this this year

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01:20:38,205 --> 01:20:39,965
before we open up again at Thanksgiving.

445
01:20:40,675 --> 01:20:44,685
Okay. And as a council,

446
01:20:44,945 --> 01:20:47,165
who could we possibly speak with?

447
01:20:47,845 --> 01:20:50,485
I mean, I'm, I'm sure you're doing a if great job, but

448
01:20:51,155 --> 01:20:53,645
Push with the, the federal government.

449
01:20:54,465 --> 01:20:58,005
How about a contractor? The contract?

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01:20:58,025 --> 01:21:00,365
We, right now we are waiting on the federal government,

451
01:21:01,225 --> 01:21:03,525
But the person that we hired to do it, they,

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01:21:04,195 --> 01:21:06,165
they must have some insight with them.

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01:21:06,355 --> 01:21:10,125
They've gone through the process before, I would assume. No,

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01:21:10,845 --> 01:21:11,845
I don't believe so.

455
01:21:12,585 --> 01:21:14,125
But we're still waiting on the

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federal government to Okay it.

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And

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So straight up, I'm little disappointed

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that this is the first we're hearing about this and,

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01:21:27,225 --> 01:21:31,565
and honestly kind of surprised how long,

461
01:21:31,665 --> 01:21:33,165
so we've been waiting for how many weeks?

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01:21:33,535 --> 01:21:37,805
Eight weeks. Eight weeks for simple drawing.

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01:21:38,185 --> 01:21:40,005
And, and what exactly are the

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01:21:40,005 --> 01:21:41,245
drawings that they need to approve

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01:21:41,705 --> 01:21:43,085
The, all the work,

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01:21:43,185 --> 01:21:45,085
the renovations we're doing to the auditorium,

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All of them.

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01:21:47,715 --> 01:21:51,005
Even the, the MERP grant,

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01:21:51,665 --> 01:21:53,045
we are now at the point

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where we probably can split that out.

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01:21:56,865 --> 01:21:59,565
That's the, for the auditorium.

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01:21:59,895 --> 01:22:04,365
Right. So we maybe we lumped them together to try

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01:22:04,365 --> 01:22:07,045
to get as much bang for the buck as we could

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between the two two grants. So

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01:22:10,885 --> 01:22:12,085
We're waiting Now we got the designs

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01:22:12,185 --> 01:22:15,685
For them on the CDS, the congressional directed spending.

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01:22:15,955 --> 01:22:17,565
Yeah. Which far

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01:22:17,565 --> 01:22:20,045
and away, I mean if you look at the budget Yeah, it's,

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the other two grants are roughly half a million bucks.

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And the CDS congressionally directed spending grant is

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01:22:28,245 --> 01:22:29,285
3.5 million.

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3.5. So that, I mean,

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01:22:30,765 --> 01:22:32,565
essentially it's the whole project. That's the

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01:22:32,565 --> 01:22:33,565
Project.

485
01:22:33,565 --> 01:22:35,285
Yeah. So we're kind of

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Waiting And plan working on plans BCD.

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01:22:42,105 --> 01:22:44,365
So is this the first time that Arch has worked

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01:22:44,395 --> 01:22:46,485
with a CDS grant?

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01:22:48,045 --> 01:22:50,045
I believe they've had a couple. Okay.

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01:22:50,285 --> 01:22:52,045
I, I'm not sure. Yeah,

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01:22:52,585 --> 01:22:53,585
No.

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01:22:53,585 --> 01:22:54,925
And I'm Tom, I I don't mean I,

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01:22:55,125 --> 01:22:56,725
I mean I'm not sitting here blaming anyone.

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01:22:56,945 --> 01:22:58,325
I'm just trying to educate myself.

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01:22:58,485 --> 01:23:02,125
I mean, like no one saw this con like is this normal?

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01:23:05,245 --> 01:23:06,925
I I've been told it, it is.

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I I can speak to this a tiny bit. Go for it.

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01:23:10,045 --> 01:23:14,765
Which is that I ran a CDS grant through work last year

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01:23:15,025 --> 01:23:17,085
and we had a similar experience.

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01:23:17,105 --> 01:23:21,405
The CDS grants are approved by the congressional office

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01:23:21,425 --> 01:23:22,965
and they're placed with an agency.

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01:23:23,825 --> 01:23:24,925
And the agency may

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01:23:24,925 --> 01:23:27,845
or may not have experience in I approving those

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01:23:28,085 --> 01:23:29,125
specific types of projects.

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01:23:29,125 --> 01:23:31,725
It may not fit the usual type of grants that they do.

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01:23:32,245 --> 01:23:34,445
So in our case, we were, we got CDS money

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01:23:34,465 --> 01:23:36,925
for a specific project and then we had to work with,

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01:23:36,965 --> 01:23:38,365
I honestly even forget what it was like one

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01:23:38,365 --> 01:23:40,485
of the subagencies in the National Archives.

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01:23:41,065 --> 01:23:43,925
And it was so far like outside their normal grant process

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01:23:44,035 --> 01:23:46,045
that it took, we were way less,

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01:23:46,145 --> 01:23:48,605
we were way more than eight weeks in getting them

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01:23:48,625 --> 01:23:50,565
to approve the, the work we were doing

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01:23:50,565 --> 01:23:52,485
and getting them to give us feedback on the things

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01:23:53,755 --> 01:23:56,125
that said we were in a far less urgent position than the

516
01:23:56,125 --> 01:23:58,885
auditorium, which has scheduling concerns

517
01:23:58,905 --> 01:23:59,925
and everything like that.

518
01:24:00,025 --> 01:24:03,605
But in my experience with another piece of the CDS program

519
01:24:04,075 --> 01:24:05,245
that, that also happened.

520
01:24:05,955 --> 01:24:07,725
Have, have you had any contact

521
01:24:07,875 --> 01:24:10,325
with Arch about this in the last eight weeks?

522
01:24:11,045 --> 01:24:12,925
Yeah, we had a meeting this mor this afternoon.

523
01:24:13,005 --> 01:24:15,045
I mean, what do they, they must be a little bit, they're,

524
01:24:15,045 --> 01:24:17,805
they're just so to speak, they're getting in the language.

525
01:24:17,945 --> 01:24:20,485
You know, they're get the same feeling we all do.

526
01:24:20,515 --> 01:24:22,005
They, let's just get this going

527
01:24:22,105 --> 01:24:25,085
so we can get this job started and completed.

528
01:24:25,365 --> 01:24:26,645
I think a call needs to be made

529
01:24:26,645 --> 01:24:28,485
to them. What do you think mayor?

530
01:24:29,275 --> 01:24:31,405
Well, I mean, I'm thinking of a lot of things.

531
01:24:31,805 --> 01:24:33,005
I mean, one of the No and,

532
01:24:33,065 --> 01:24:36,565
and not, you know, just trying to process all of this.

533
01:24:36,805 --> 01:24:40,845
I mean, we're talking about the heating system. Okay.

534
01:24:41,265 --> 01:24:43,605
So we've disabled the heating system.

535
01:24:43,705 --> 01:24:44,885
No, we haven't. We have not.

536
01:24:45,025 --> 01:24:47,125
We have not. We're okay. We we're,

537
01:24:47,865 --> 01:24:49,645
We are, but We can't tear that apart until

538
01:24:49,645 --> 01:24:51,965
We have, we could disable the heating system in October.

539
01:24:53,745 --> 01:24:57,125
Really can't do it. Not much past October 1st.

540
01:24:57,535 --> 01:24:58,565
Right. Not past,

541
01:24:58,875 --> 01:25:02,565
Even with that eight, eight week lead time that, you know,

542
01:25:02,565 --> 01:25:03,845
you're pushing it, we're,

543
01:25:03,895 --> 01:25:07,125
We're dangerously close to having to push Right.

544
01:25:07,155 --> 01:25:08,525
Some of that up until spring.

545
01:25:08,525 --> 01:25:09,685
That that's a sprinkler building and

546
01:25:09,685 --> 01:25:10,845
it's a wet system. Correct?

547
01:25:11,585 --> 01:25:12,765
Yes. I believe so. Yeah.

548
01:25:12,865 --> 01:25:14,325
So, yeah.

549
01:25:14,465 --> 01:25:18,805
So you, no way, no, I mean, honestly what I'm thinking is if

550
01:25:20,925 --> 01:25:22,645
approval is eminent, in other words, there's no,

551
01:25:23,115 --> 01:25:25,405
there's no issue with them saying no. Right.

552
01:25:25,905 --> 01:25:29,645
Not that I'm aware of. We, not that I'm aware of. Okay.

553
01:25:29,745 --> 01:25:32,965
So we, Like I said, we, we've got the first round

554
01:25:33,165 --> 01:25:36,765
of feedback, we sent those corrections to 'em.

555
01:25:37,545 --> 01:25:39,845
Now we're just waiting on them to come back to us

556
01:25:40,745 --> 01:25:42,965
And say your this Is okay.

557
01:25:43,145 --> 01:25:47,325
Or whoops, you didn't quite make this, this one.

558
01:25:47,675 --> 01:25:50,045
Okay. So we're just waiting on there. There.

559
01:25:50,045 --> 01:25:52,765
Do you, do you have any liaison point person?

560
01:25:53,585 --> 01:25:54,845
Anyone you can talk to?

561
01:25:55,325 --> 01:25:59,965
I can call the, our case manager I guess. Okay.

562
01:26:00,035 --> 01:26:03,350
Talk to her. But she's the one I've been emailing

563
01:26:03,385 --> 01:26:04,765
and she's the one that's saying

564
01:26:05,585 --> 01:26:09,085
we just have to wait.

565
01:26:09,795 --> 01:26:13,165
Okay. So The bottom of her email has alliances due to

566
01:26:15,035 --> 01:26:18,485
basically short staffing process may take longer

567
01:26:18,515 --> 01:26:19,645
than than normal.

568
01:26:19,995 --> 01:26:22,045
Okay. But we live in Vermont.

569
01:26:22,865 --> 01:26:26,005
So if we can't get approval

570
01:26:27,025 --> 01:26:29,445
for these boilers in 30 days,

571
01:26:30,155 --> 01:26:33,205
then we're not doing the project this year. Correct.

572
01:26:33,595 --> 01:26:35,445
That portion of the Project, that portion

573
01:26:35,445 --> 01:26:36,645
of the project, we

574
01:26:36,645 --> 01:26:39,125
May be, we can probably get the lights done,

575
01:26:39,465 --> 01:26:40,965
the kitchen remodel done.

576
01:26:43,185 --> 01:26:44,445
We probably won't get

577
01:26:44,445 --> 01:26:46,885
to the bathrooms this year if we can't get started.

578
01:26:47,735 --> 01:26:48,885
Right. Because of,

579
01:26:49,065 --> 01:26:52,205
So I get, so I guess my que when you think about the

580
01:26:52,365 --> 01:26:55,925
planning that went into this, the tournaments

581
01:26:55,925 --> 01:26:58,445
that we have in the spring, the commitments

582
01:26:58,565 --> 01:27:00,165
that we have over the winter.

583
01:27:00,475 --> 01:27:02,285
When you, when you think of all those things,

584
01:27:03,595 --> 01:27:05,325
what I'm wondering is,

585
01:27:08,415 --> 01:27:12,045
Carol, is it possible for the city we have bonding capacity,

586
01:27:12,065 --> 01:27:14,445
is it possible for the city?

587
01:27:14,785 --> 01:27:16,765
Is it permissible under a CDS?

588
01:27:17,025 --> 01:27:20,205
And I don't know the answer to this for the city

589
01:27:20,795 --> 01:27:22,125
because they're not gonna Oh,

590
01:27:22,125 --> 01:27:23,845
but they have to approve the work they have.

591
01:27:23,955 --> 01:27:26,005
I've already had, but they don't approve the work. So, okay.

592
01:27:26,005 --> 01:27:27,085
I just, I've already asked that question.

593
01:27:27,085 --> 01:27:28,845
I just answered my own question. If you, if we

594
01:27:28,845 --> 01:27:30,125
Could selves go ahead and The work

595
01:27:30,345 --> 01:27:31,765
and then they say we don't like that work,

596
01:27:32,355 --> 01:27:35,085
then you run the risk of them saying, okay,

597
01:27:35,095 --> 01:27:36,485
we're not paying for that work.

598
01:27:36,625 --> 01:27:40,845
We don't like it. So unfortunately we just have to, we

599
01:27:40,865 --> 01:27:41,865
Got that answer.

600
01:27:41,865 --> 01:27:42,805
The council. So

601
01:27:43,385 --> 01:27:46,645
We approved clerk of the works a while back.

602
01:27:47,265 --> 01:27:50,245
Is he working? He's he on trying to push this thing through

603
01:27:50,245 --> 01:27:54,365
Or on, he reviews the documents

604
01:27:54,445 --> 01:27:56,445
and he'll review the bids that come in

605
01:27:56,825 --> 01:28:00,805
and then he over, he takes note basically notes of

606
01:28:00,825 --> 01:28:03,445
how many people are there for which contractor

607
01:28:03,625 --> 01:28:07,725
and the weather and what work got done this day.

608
01:28:07,825 --> 01:28:08,825
And

609
01:28:09,965 --> 01:28:10,965
Hmm.

610
01:28:10,965 --> 01:28:11,405
Captain Ruth here.

611
01:28:11,775 --> 01:28:14,245
Steve, without putting you on the spot, have you dealt

612
01:28:14,245 --> 01:28:18,285
with them before with this USDA and, and No,

613
01:28:18,285 --> 01:28:19,805
I'm just here with the CDS grant.

614
01:28:19,905 --> 01:28:24,445
But I mean, the review process is always time consuming.

615
01:28:26,045 --> 01:28:28,125
I think if you, if you, if you have issues,

616
01:28:28,225 --> 01:28:30,525
I'd call the state director of USDA.

617
01:28:32,235 --> 01:28:33,235
This

618
01:28:34,285 --> 01:28:37,085
Squeaky wheel gets, It's a

619
01:28:37,085 --> 01:28:38,405
presidential appointee. This

620
01:28:38,405 --> 01:28:39,845
Was changed how, how long ago?

621
01:28:40,105 --> 01:28:42,765
You said back in the second set responses

622
01:28:43,875 --> 01:28:45,365
Last week when I got back from vacation.

623
01:28:45,875 --> 01:28:46,875
Okay.

624
01:28:49,135 --> 01:28:52,665
Yeah, the review processes even normally can be

625
01:28:52,955 --> 01:28:54,385
Eight weeks Ly.

626
01:28:54,385 --> 01:28:55,385
Long time. So.

627
01:28:57,625 --> 01:29:00,265
Hmm. Council Hogart Con, it's

628
01:29:00,425 --> 01:29:01,685
Congressional and I'll get you in a moment Amy,

629
01:29:02,235 --> 01:29:04,245
It's congressionally directed spending.

630
01:29:04,385 --> 01:29:06,765
Yes. Can our con congressional delegation

631
01:29:07,645 --> 01:29:10,165
advocate on our behalf and point out that this is Vermont

632
01:29:10,425 --> 01:29:12,125
and W heating season is coming?

633
01:29:12,375 --> 01:29:13,725
Might not hurt. Might not hurt.

634
01:29:14,335 --> 01:29:15,485
Which office is this one?

635
01:29:16,285 --> 01:29:18,565
I believe it came from Sanders. Sanders. Sanders?

636
01:29:19,035 --> 01:29:21,285
Yeah. It was Sandra Sanders. Amy.

637
01:29:22,395 --> 01:29:24,805
Yeah. Just this might be some relevant perspective.

638
01:29:26,245 --> 01:29:28,725
I work with USDA rural development sometimes on water

639
01:29:28,725 --> 01:29:29,845
or wastewater projects,

640
01:29:30,525 --> 01:29:33,205
which I think is also under the community program staff.

641
01:29:33,965 --> 01:29:36,445
Several years ago they had eight or 10 staff people

642
01:29:36,625 --> 01:29:40,405
and the New Hampshire and Vermont offices are, are joint.

643
01:29:40,425 --> 01:29:41,805
So they had about eight or 10 people.

644
01:29:42,155 --> 01:29:44,685
They now have two because there were enough people

645
01:29:44,705 --> 01:29:48,205
who took early retirement buyouts, some people

646
01:29:48,265 --> 01:29:50,765
who were recent enough pro employees

647
01:29:50,765 --> 01:29:52,605
that they were probationary and so they were laid off.

648
01:29:52,665 --> 01:29:55,525
So they have very few staff

649
01:29:55,825 --> 01:29:58,325
for the existing program.

650
01:29:58,825 --> 01:30:00,365
So not an excuse,

651
01:30:00,425 --> 01:30:03,165
but just some perspective for what happened

652
01:30:03,165 --> 01:30:04,525
for staffing over the last couple years.

653
01:30:05,695 --> 01:30:09,445
Thank you. Yeah. So yes, sorry,

654
01:30:09,665 --> 01:30:12,885
I'm just really confused and concerned with the timeline.

655
01:30:13,825 --> 01:30:16,965
We got the spend, we got the award in 22

656
01:30:17,905 --> 01:30:20,965
and we're in 26 4 years later

657
01:30:21,625 --> 01:30:23,925
and we're still waiting for drawings to be approved

658
01:30:24,985 --> 01:30:27,445
and we're potentially looking at not having

659
01:30:27,465 --> 01:30:28,725
the building for use.

660
01:30:29,785 --> 01:30:31,765
So I'm just trying to understand

661
01:30:31,785 --> 01:30:34,565
and figure out where in the last four years we've kind

662
01:30:34,565 --> 01:30:37,445
of messed up with not submitting

663
01:30:37,585 --> 01:30:42,485
or where the hiccup has been in those last four

664
01:30:42,485 --> 01:30:45,725
years of us getting the, the spending, like getting

665
01:30:45,725 --> 01:30:47,805
that award with BADC.

666
01:30:49,145 --> 01:30:51,685
And here we are September 1st

667
01:30:52,145 --> 01:30:54,325
and we're not even got any work started.

668
01:30:57,245 --> 01:30:59,645
I don't know about the first two.

669
01:31:00,275 --> 01:31:02,125
I've only been here for just about two years.

670
01:31:02,275 --> 01:31:04,925
Sure. Two years. And we started working on this

671
01:31:04,995 --> 01:31:07,485
project I believe about a year ago.

672
01:31:08,975 --> 01:31:10,445
We've been starting,

673
01:31:11,225 --> 01:31:15,405
we started the RFP process in the, sorry,

674
01:31:16,585 --> 01:31:17,585
I'm sorry.

675
01:31:17,585 --> 01:31:18,845
Tell Yeah, I can speak to that a little bit.

676
01:31:18,845 --> 01:31:20,045
Which is that the first two

677
01:31:20,045 --> 01:31:21,485
and a half, three years of this grant,

678
01:31:22,025 --> 01:31:23,365
my understanding is the city did not

679
01:31:23,365 --> 01:31:24,485
know it had a match component.

680
01:31:24,505 --> 01:31:25,805
So we couldn't actually do anything with it.

681
01:31:26,305 --> 01:31:29,725
It was later negotiated that we could spend the money

682
01:31:30,065 --> 01:31:31,765
and that's when the work began in earnest.

683
01:31:32,085 --> 01:31:33,965
I do remember the match conversation

684
01:31:34,505 --> 01:31:36,365
and how we're able to use some other funds in

685
01:31:36,365 --> 01:31:37,605
order to figure out the

686
01:31:37,605 --> 01:31:38,605
Match.

687
01:31:38,605 --> 01:31:40,765
Yeah. And so that was figuring that out was the first couple

688
01:31:40,765 --> 01:31:42,805
of years of the grant when we started in earnest,

689
01:31:42,805 --> 01:31:43,805
we had all those presentations about

690
01:31:43,805 --> 01:31:45,725
how the work would be modified and tweaked

691
01:31:45,725 --> 01:31:47,285
and changed to fit the new budget.

692
01:31:47,345 --> 01:31:49,085
And that's when it started in earnest a year.

693
01:31:51,105 --> 01:31:54,525
So that's, that's a good chunk of it was just

694
01:31:55,145 --> 01:31:56,725
the confusion about the early part of the grant.

695
01:31:58,565 --> 01:32:02,565
It's just So not great news. No.

696
01:32:02,625 --> 01:32:07,445
You know, the biggest concern is yes, there is the,

697
01:32:08,025 --> 01:32:11,125
you know, we could certainly do the lighting upgrade

698
01:32:11,785 --> 01:32:12,885
if they would approve that.

699
01:32:12,985 --> 01:32:14,965
So looking, you know, the kitchen

700
01:32:17,845 --> 01:32:19,565
building ventilation, you really can't do that

701
01:32:19,655 --> 01:32:21,725
until you do the furnace,

702
01:32:22,215 --> 01:32:24,965
until you do the entire HVAC contractor. Well there

703
01:32:24,965 --> 01:32:26,005
They're, yeah, they're,

704
01:32:26,005 --> 01:32:28,405
they're two com two separate pieces. Gotcha.

705
01:32:28,405 --> 01:32:31,565
Because The, the heat pumps

706
01:32:31,705 --> 01:32:32,845
are gonna be a separate system.

707
01:32:33,315 --> 01:32:37,245
Yeah. That heating and pooling, if we got those installed

708
01:32:37,345 --> 01:32:42,165
before October, that might carry the building Yeah.

709
01:32:42,255 --> 01:32:43,925
While we're doing the other one. Yeah.

710
01:32:44,065 --> 01:32:47,045
If it's, if it's a night, if it's a decent October,

711
01:32:49,425 --> 01:32:53,045
but again, that's i's all contingent

712
01:32:53,065 --> 01:32:54,765
on approval.

713
01:32:55,495 --> 01:32:58,405
Right. So at what point,

714
01:32:58,475 --> 01:33:00,085
I'll get you in just a second, counsel.

715
01:33:00,445 --> 01:33:05,405
I mean, at what point do we put things away,

716
01:33:05,835 --> 01:33:07,125
Kick kick it till next Year?

717
01:33:07,225 --> 01:33:09,525
And do we, do we postpone the project?

718
01:33:10,545 --> 01:33:12,245
You know, have, are we thinking about that?

719
01:33:12,245 --> 01:33:13,645
Because I think we need Oh

720
01:33:13,645 --> 01:33:15,725
Yeah, we've been thinking about it pretty hard

721
01:33:15,725 --> 01:33:16,765
and heavy. I'm thinking.

722
01:33:17,465 --> 01:33:19,085
And then does the pricing change?

723
01:33:19,995 --> 01:33:22,725
Yeah, of Course. And now are we adjusting the project?

724
01:33:22,905 --> 01:33:24,485
You know, you put anything off a year

725
01:33:25,385 --> 01:33:27,085
in this construction environment

726
01:33:27,145 --> 01:33:29,845
and you know, you're, you're guaranteed a price increase.

727
01:33:32,425 --> 01:33:36,605
The good news, if you can call it good news, is

728
01:33:37,865 --> 01:33:40,845
if we do get approval, well if we get to the point

729
01:33:40,845 --> 01:33:42,405
where we have to put off to next year

730
01:33:43,065 --> 01:33:47,525
and then we get approval, we can order the materials, the,

731
01:33:48,145 --> 01:33:50,685
and I've already talked with Brian

732
01:33:50,745 --> 01:33:52,605
and we can store them up on Morrison Road

733
01:33:54,705 --> 01:33:58,005
so we can order the materials, get the materials on

734
01:33:58,705 --> 01:34:02,445
in our hands at this year's prices instead of waiting

735
01:34:02,445 --> 01:34:03,605
and buying of them next year.

736
01:34:05,785 --> 01:34:06,845
And then when we get ready

737
01:34:06,845 --> 01:34:10,285
to get going in the spring, everything's here.

738
01:34:11,145 --> 01:34:12,645
We don't have to wait on a delivery

739
01:34:13,985 --> 01:34:16,005
or, you know, the delivery

740
01:34:16,005 --> 01:34:18,525
that says it's coming in four weeks is actually six weeks.

741
01:34:18,935 --> 01:34:20,125
Right. All

742
01:34:20,125 --> 01:34:22,165
that stuff is out of the way and we can get going.

743
01:34:22,865 --> 01:34:24,565
No, and I get that,

744
01:34:24,985 --> 01:34:28,245
but as someone who builds things regularly,

745
01:34:29,065 --> 01:34:33,765
we hate having materials sitting around for six months.

746
01:34:34,275 --> 01:34:37,485
There's all kinds of risk that comes with that. Yep.

747
01:34:37,945 --> 01:34:40,485
Can get damaged, can just not be

748
01:34:40,485 --> 01:34:43,405
there when you go to find it. It's funny

749
01:34:43,405 --> 01:34:44,565
How they grow legs like that.

750
01:34:44,965 --> 01:34:46,085
Well, you

751
01:34:46,085 --> 01:34:48,965
Know, I mean, it it, it's happened on different projects.

752
01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:51,405
So Yeah. So this was not

753
01:34:53,225 --> 01:34:54,525
I'm sorry, go ahead. Council Spelman,

754
01:34:54,625 --> 01:34:58,085
What's the absolute drop dead date that we have

755
01:34:58,085 --> 01:35:00,205
to have them approved so we can move forward?

756
01:35:03,825 --> 01:35:05,605
I'm gonna say the next like two weeks.

757
01:35:06,715 --> 01:35:08,045
Yeah. Two weeks. And then we,

758
01:35:08,185 --> 01:35:10,485
We lead time on furnace.

759
01:35:10,825 --> 01:35:11,885
So if you just think about

760
01:35:12,705 --> 01:35:15,525
If we get it and if we get approval

761
01:35:17,185 --> 01:35:20,165
and we can get, get the contracts in place, be here

762
01:35:20,165 --> 01:35:21,485
for the next meeting on the 22nd.

763
01:35:22,095 --> 01:35:25,565
Right. Then it's six weeks after that

764
01:35:25,565 --> 01:35:27,565
before the boilers would even show up.

765
01:35:29,345 --> 01:35:30,965
Is there anyone that puts administration

766
01:35:31,065 --> 01:35:32,125
we can call to help?

767
01:35:33,675 --> 01:35:36,485
I'll, I'm, I mean this is a pretty good

768
01:35:36,715 --> 01:35:38,165
Yeah, I'll, I'll ask that question.

769
01:35:38,355 --> 01:35:39,885
I'll, I'll reach out to a few people

770
01:35:39,905 --> 01:35:43,045
and ask that question tomorrow may start

771
01:35:43,115 --> 01:35:45,125
with Senator Sanders.

772
01:35:45,445 --> 01:35:48,725
I mean, first of all, I don't wanna look,

773
01:35:49,395 --> 01:35:51,565
look a congressional gift horse in the mouth.

774
01:35:51,785 --> 01:35:53,685
We, we still appreciate this project

775
01:35:53,945 --> 01:35:56,925
but you know, some certainty

776
01:35:58,055 --> 01:35:59,365
would really be appreciated.

777
01:35:59,365 --> 01:36:01,725
Yeah. And if they could, if they simply said

778
01:36:02,545 --> 01:36:05,085
you're not gonna get your approval for eight weeks.

779
01:36:05,635 --> 01:36:07,485
Alright. We know what to do. Yeah.

780
01:36:07,625 --> 01:36:08,925
And, and we know how to proceed.

781
01:36:09,025 --> 01:36:11,165
The problem is when you're waiting

782
01:36:11,225 --> 01:36:12,525
and thinking, am I gonna get it?

783
01:36:12,545 --> 01:36:15,605
Am I gonna get it? If we don't get it by September 15th,

784
01:36:15,865 --> 01:36:16,885
that's Yeah.

785
01:36:17,255 --> 01:36:18,885
Based on the schedule, you told me

786
01:36:18,955 --> 01:36:21,285
that it won't work past that date.

787
01:36:22,105 --> 01:36:23,845
So I mean, we're gonna know soon enough,

788
01:36:23,945 --> 01:36:26,205
but it would be a lot more helpful to know

789
01:36:26,795 --> 01:36:27,885
much sooner. Yes.

790
01:36:27,995 --> 01:36:29,325
Then we can rather

791
01:36:29,325 --> 01:36:30,325
Than later.

792
01:36:31,025 --> 01:36:34,005
And would you consider doing some of the other projects

793
01:36:35,865 --> 01:36:38,765
or, you know, would it make sense for example,

794
01:36:38,765 --> 01:36:40,805
like the kitchen and lighting.

795
01:36:41,585 --> 01:36:42,805
We, we could do that.

796
01:36:42,835 --> 01:36:44,805
Like the changing out the lighting, we can do

797
01:36:44,805 --> 01:36:46,805
that while the building's operational

798
01:36:46,915 --> 01:36:48,845
because that's done during the day. Is

799
01:36:48,905 --> 01:36:51,765
Is there anything that has been approved? Any component?

800
01:36:52,105 --> 01:36:55,045
The we have approval for the MERP grants.

801
01:36:56,545 --> 01:36:59,045
No, I mean when, when you look at the overall component

802
01:36:59,185 --> 01:37:00,365
As far as that Yeah.

803
01:37:00,365 --> 01:37:03,765
Like lighting, you know, the entire, so you have to go with,

804
01:37:03,785 --> 01:37:07,845
so basically the CDS grant is not,

805
01:37:07,845 --> 01:37:09,445
nothing is approved at at all. Nothing

806
01:37:09,545 --> 01:37:10,545
Is approved yet.

807
01:37:10,545 --> 01:37:13,245
No. Okay. So it's a, it's kind of an all

808
01:37:13,245 --> 01:37:14,845
or nothing thing where you send it in

809
01:37:14,845 --> 01:37:17,005
and they have to approve everything in for, in order

810
01:37:17,025 --> 01:37:18,285
for you to get anything.

811
01:37:18,545 --> 01:37:21,605
Yes. Okay. So yeah, the only thing,

812
01:37:22,305 --> 01:37:26,045
the only thing we could do under the MERP grant is this,

813
01:37:26,045 --> 01:37:28,285
there's, you know, a little bit

814
01:37:28,285 --> 01:37:30,405
of lighting there, but not much.

815
01:37:30,545 --> 01:37:32,765
The lion's share of it is in the CDS

816
01:37:34,085 --> 01:37:36,285
exterior window replacement and door weather stripping.

817
01:37:36,425 --> 01:37:40,125
That's, that's basically it in the and roof insulation.

818
01:37:40,625 --> 01:37:42,845
That's it in the ME grant.

819
01:37:43,905 --> 01:37:47,205
And I believe the Yeah. And everything else. Yeah.

820
01:37:48,075 --> 01:37:50,245
Well, yes.

821
01:37:50,595 --> 01:37:51,725
Just one last question.

822
01:37:52,585 --> 01:37:53,965
So my understanding is

823
01:37:53,965 --> 01:37:57,405
that we're not currently renting any space in the auditorium

824
01:37:57,405 --> 01:37:58,965
because of this project. Correct?

825
01:37:59,395 --> 01:38:00,645
Correct. So

826
01:38:01,305 --> 01:38:05,165
Is it Feasible to say that we could potentially

827
01:38:05,905 --> 01:38:08,085
reopen the auditorium for some revenue?

828
01:38:08,765 --> 01:38:12,085
Absolutely. So that way while this project is in limbo,

829
01:38:12,625 --> 01:38:16,405
we could at least be making some money Absolutely.

830
01:38:16,405 --> 01:38:18,765
Potentially offering that to the community. Yep.

831
01:38:19,125 --> 01:38:20,885
'cause I know that's been something that's been asked

832
01:38:21,445 --> 01:38:23,525
a couple of times over the last few months.

833
01:38:23,745 --> 01:38:26,045
Not like a huge need or desire,

834
01:38:26,185 --> 01:38:27,725
but definitely been asked, Hey,

835
01:38:27,745 --> 01:38:30,125
how come we are not using the auditorium?

836
01:38:30,905 --> 01:38:32,805
One actually was asked about the election

837
01:38:33,475 --> 01:38:35,445
that we had at Alumni hall

838
01:38:35,825 --> 01:38:38,925
and why we weren't able to use the odd instead of,

839
01:38:39,985 --> 01:38:42,205
and that was actually what brought me to thinking about

840
01:38:42,205 --> 01:38:43,485
where we were at with this project.

841
01:38:45,185 --> 01:38:49,125
So Is it possible that we use the auditorium

842
01:38:49,125 --> 01:38:53,085
for the election still? I mean, that

843
01:38:53,525 --> 01:38:55,685
Actually has, I'm just asking general questions

844
01:38:55,685 --> 01:38:57,685
because I was under the assumption that we,

845
01:38:58,355 --> 01:39:02,405
when we closed the auditorium, that it was done, we were

846
01:39:02,455 --> 01:39:04,445
until the project was wrapped up

847
01:39:04,705 --> 01:39:06,565
and that we weren't able to use it whatsoever.

848
01:39:06,745 --> 01:39:08,365
And now I'm under the impression that

849
01:39:09,345 --> 01:39:12,285
we probably could have had it open for the amount, the time

850
01:39:12,355 --> 01:39:13,765
that we've had it closed

851
01:39:14,035 --> 01:39:16,645
because we haven't had the project started yet.

852
01:39:16,955 --> 01:39:20,965
Yeah. I, I closed it in anticipation

853
01:39:21,745 --> 01:39:23,005
of being able to do this project

854
01:39:23,625 --> 01:39:27,245
and I would rather have it empty for in missed one

855
01:39:27,365 --> 01:39:31,205
or two, you know, two hour rentals, then have

856
01:39:31,205 --> 01:39:34,485
to tell somebody, oh, your birthday party that you planned

857
01:39:34,505 --> 01:39:35,925
for the last two months is now canceled

858
01:39:35,925 --> 01:39:37,365
because we're starting work next week.

859
01:39:38,605 --> 01:39:40,165
Yeah. I think we need an answer from them.

860
01:39:40,465 --> 01:39:43,165
If they can give us a timeline, like you said there,

861
01:39:43,475 --> 01:39:46,245
they're gonna give us something here about eight weeks we've

862
01:39:46,285 --> 01:39:47,525
been banking on this project.

863
01:39:47,675 --> 01:39:52,165
It's part of our largest financial contributor to our city,

864
01:39:52,165 --> 01:39:54,205
basically in that, in the BOR?

865
01:39:54,205 --> 01:39:55,205
Correct.

866
01:39:56,305 --> 01:39:59,605
Yep. Let me see what I can do tomorrow.

867
01:40:00,155 --> 01:40:02,405
Like I said, wasn't, wasn't aware.

868
01:40:03,665 --> 01:40:04,965
So let me see what I can do,

869
01:40:04,965 --> 01:40:07,565
because I'm just quite, like I said,

870
01:40:07,595 --> 01:40:11,245
this was not necessarily the update I was

871
01:40:11,285 --> 01:40:13,205
anticipating this evening.

872
01:40:13,745 --> 01:40:17,005
So, yes, Ms. Higby, did you have a question?

873
01:40:17,705 --> 01:40:20,725
No, I, I had just every I Could you

874
01:40:20,875 --> 01:40:22,045
Come up to the table please?

875
01:40:22,385 --> 01:40:24,205
So the folks on Zoom can't hear you?

876
01:40:24,435 --> 01:40:25,605
Yeah, absolutely.

877
01:40:26,105 --> 01:40:28,325
So I've served on the civic center committee

878
01:40:28,905 --> 01:40:30,045
For about 10 years

879
01:40:31,145 --> 01:40:33,405
and I've been the minute taker

880
01:40:33,425 --> 01:40:35,045
for the last probably four years.

881
01:40:35,385 --> 01:40:38,205
And I would just invite everyone to take a few minutes

882
01:40:38,265 --> 01:40:39,845
and actually read to the minutes

883
01:40:39,985 --> 01:40:43,765
and follow what has been transpiring in the discussions.

884
01:40:44,105 --> 01:40:46,365
But my purpose in coming to the table right now is

885
01:40:46,365 --> 01:40:50,605
to remind everyone that we think about the space as a place

886
01:40:50,625 --> 01:40:54,205
for sports activities, a place to vote, a place

887
01:40:54,205 --> 01:40:56,965
to have birthday parties, but possibly the most important

888
01:40:56,965 --> 01:41:01,725
thing that the space is used for would be health emergencies

889
01:41:01,865 --> 01:41:04,485
or the overflow to the central Vermont Medical Center.

890
01:41:05,475 --> 01:41:07,525
Also, we're the flood emergency center,

891
01:41:07,985 --> 01:41:09,365
so we can't schedule that.

892
01:41:09,665 --> 01:41:11,685
We can rearrange the basketball schedule,

893
01:41:12,825 --> 01:41:14,285
we can rearrange birthday parties,

894
01:41:15,025 --> 01:41:17,205
but we've been very lucky this year we don't have

895
01:41:17,205 --> 01:41:22,005
to use the space for overnight stays for flood victims.

896
01:41:22,585 --> 01:41:23,765
And that's really one of the reasons

897
01:41:23,765 --> 01:41:25,485
that the cafeteria is being remodeled.

898
01:41:25,485 --> 01:41:28,645
It's not just because people want to buy hot dogs. Right.

899
01:41:28,955 --> 01:41:31,205
It's because we have to feed families.

900
01:41:32,065 --> 01:41:34,605
And so I I just wanted to remind people that this is,

901
01:41:35,075 --> 01:41:37,325
this is more than just a facility

902
01:41:37,325 --> 01:41:38,685
where people go and play games.

903
01:41:39,355 --> 01:41:41,445
It's actually one of the most important aspects

904
01:41:41,825 --> 01:41:45,245
of this community resource is that we save families.

905
01:41:45,985 --> 01:41:48,565
And so let's, let's not lose track of that.

906
01:41:48,945 --> 01:41:50,045
And that's what's really important.

907
01:41:50,045 --> 01:41:52,725
That's really what attracted Senator Sanders

908
01:41:52,725 --> 01:41:55,805
and his staff to support this project in the first place.

909
01:41:56,985 --> 01:42:00,325
So as soon as we can get this thing going, I would,

910
01:42:00,445 --> 01:42:03,245
I would urge us to, to move forward and also, and,

911
01:42:03,385 --> 01:42:06,605
and encourage you to read the minutes of the meetings.

912
01:42:06,745 --> 01:42:07,765
So if you understand

913
01:42:08,355 --> 01:42:10,085
what has happened over the last four years,

914
01:42:10,915 --> 01:42:13,365
Well it'd be advantageous for us to put

915
01:42:13,365 --> 01:42:14,845
that when we talk to them again.

916
01:42:16,665 --> 01:42:19,285
We should bring that up to them. Why?

917
01:42:20,045 --> 01:42:22,845
Whatever the, the people are holding us up. USDA.

918
01:42:22,865 --> 01:42:24,485
Oh, I say that to 'em, you know, that

919
01:42:24,625 --> 01:42:26,445
that's just one more positive thing

920
01:42:26,445 --> 01:42:27,725
that we could utilize. Well

921
01:42:27,825 --> 01:42:29,045
Of course, absolutely.

922
01:42:29,305 --> 01:42:31,925
But it sounds like based on the conversation

923
01:42:31,925 --> 01:42:33,005
that happened a few minutes ago,

924
01:42:33,005 --> 01:42:35,285
it sounds like they have a staffing deficit and,

925
01:42:35,705 --> 01:42:38,285
and you know, you can't, people

926
01:42:38,285 --> 01:42:39,365
Still need to be taken care

927
01:42:39,365 --> 01:42:41,525
Of people to, to do work that they're unable to complete.

928
01:42:42,065 --> 01:42:44,205
But yes, it's a very good topic.

929
01:42:44,935 --> 01:42:47,885
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, We do have Amy Alford

930
01:42:47,885 --> 01:42:49,245
Again. Amy, I'm sorry.

931
01:42:50,185 --> 01:42:52,205
That's okay. I forgot to mention

932
01:42:53,025 --> 01:42:55,525
the remaining staff are not professional engineers.

933
01:42:55,525 --> 01:42:57,605
So if you're waiting on a professional engineering approval,

934
01:42:58,515 --> 01:43:01,245
that may be someone from New York State or another state.

935
01:43:02,225 --> 01:43:04,805
So I would maybe in pursuing follow

936
01:43:04,865 --> 01:43:06,125
up questions, just be really clear.

937
01:43:06,155 --> 01:43:07,645
Like, who are you waiting on?

938
01:43:07,865 --> 01:43:09,485
Is it that they are waiting it on?

939
01:43:10,585 --> 01:43:12,765
It ha it has to be signed off by a professional engineer

940
01:43:12,765 --> 01:43:14,085
that might be someone in another state.

941
01:43:15,375 --> 01:43:18,525
Great suggestion. Thank you. Yeah.

942
01:43:18,745 --> 01:43:21,445
So maybe we could find that out.

943
01:43:21,725 --> 01:43:23,125
I mean realistically, so

944
01:43:26,635 --> 01:43:28,445
getting through the surprise

945
01:43:28,505 --> 01:43:30,845
and disappointment, you know,

946
01:43:30,845 --> 01:43:33,405
we're gonna have some decisions to make.

947
01:43:33,915 --> 01:43:37,165
Yeah. If the, I mean certainly with the boiler project,

948
01:43:38,705 --> 01:43:43,125
so currently we have no events scheduled until

949
01:43:43,825 --> 01:43:45,605
the Mary Berry Festival.

950
01:43:45,605 --> 01:43:47,525
Yeah. Craft fair. Craft fair until the craft fair.

951
01:43:48,305 --> 01:43:50,645
So really the, you know, there, there's, even

952
01:43:50,645 --> 01:43:52,165
with the lighting Yes.

953
01:43:52,385 --> 01:43:54,325
The, you know, lighting can be done. Yes.

954
01:43:54,385 --> 01:43:55,925
The kitchen renovation can be done.

955
01:43:56,425 --> 01:43:58,925
But we, what we have to think about is, as

956
01:44:00,075 --> 01:44:02,325
Councilor Deering was suggesting, at what point

957
01:44:02,905 --> 01:44:05,925
do we just postpone the entire project

958
01:44:06,135 --> 01:44:10,205
until our slowest time, which is summer of

959
01:44:10,985 --> 01:44:15,565
27 when we really don't have a lot

960
01:44:15,565 --> 01:44:19,525
of events going on up there at, you know, if we hit it hard

961
01:44:19,615 --> 01:44:23,045
after the high school basketball tournament Yeah.

962
01:44:23,185 --> 01:44:25,005
And hit it hard that summer. April,

963
01:44:25,005 --> 01:44:26,005
April next, next Year.

964
01:44:26,095 --> 01:44:28,645
Let's be a little, you know, a little practical about it.

965
01:44:28,645 --> 01:44:29,685
I mean, realistically we,

966
01:44:29,865 --> 01:44:31,805
we could do the kitchen over the winter.

967
01:44:31,905 --> 01:44:33,485
We don't have a lot of events where

968
01:44:33,985 --> 01:44:37,525
unless there happens to be some sort of, they,

969
01:44:37,525 --> 01:44:39,765
They can't use it to cook now anyways.

970
01:44:40,095 --> 01:44:43,285
Right. So they're basically, you know, we just need

971
01:44:43,285 --> 01:44:44,885
to be thinking that way.

972
01:44:44,985 --> 01:44:46,845
We need to be a little, little nimble

973
01:44:47,025 --> 01:44:49,645
and think about, well, okay, if we get it

974
01:44:49,645 --> 01:44:50,925
by this date, what can we do?

975
01:44:51,265 --> 01:44:53,645
If it doesn't happen till this date, what can we do?

976
01:44:54,385 --> 01:44:56,485
And obviously there's gonna be a certain point.

977
01:44:56,585 --> 01:44:59,485
If you don't get it until February, well

978
01:45:00,465 --> 01:45:03,285
not gonna be anything you can do. Okay.

979
01:45:03,455 --> 01:45:07,325
We're, we're getting really close to that that

980
01:45:07,325 --> 01:45:08,325
Time.

981
01:45:08,325 --> 01:45:09,965
Can we get, tell you what, I love

982
01:45:09,965 --> 01:45:11,525
to have you come back in at the next council

983
01:45:11,525 --> 01:45:13,165
meeting, should have an answer.

984
01:45:13,195 --> 01:45:15,325
I'll compare notes with you in, in the meanwhile I'll

985
01:45:16,235 --> 01:45:18,165
just look around a little bit, see if there's someone

986
01:45:18,165 --> 01:45:19,805
that I can speak to and maybe you

987
01:45:19,805 --> 01:45:22,165
and I can get together, if that's all right with you.

988
01:45:22,795 --> 01:45:25,085
I'll get together with Tom tomorrow

989
01:45:25,105 --> 01:45:28,045
and just figure out who can we call following up,

990
01:45:28,135 --> 01:45:29,765
using Amy's suggestion

991
01:45:29,785 --> 01:45:32,725
and try to figure out how we move this forward. Right.

992
01:45:33,385 --> 01:45:36,845
You need a answer on the Merp thing too though, right?

993
01:45:36,865 --> 01:45:38,365
To extend that? Is that

994
01:45:39,685 --> 01:45:41,525
Actually, or did you, Was that a plan

995
01:45:41,525 --> 01:45:43,165
that you were saying plan BD

996
01:45:43,275 --> 01:45:44,325
Just before it came?

997
01:45:44,545 --> 01:45:49,445
We just have to have the contract in place with re a

998
01:45:49,785 --> 01:45:52,805
for the Merck money by the end of the month.

999
01:45:53,265 --> 01:45:57,405
Oh. So they'll let us then we can, we have till 29 to do

1000
01:45:57,405 --> 01:46:00,925
that one as long as we complete the city hall work

1001
01:46:01,465 --> 01:46:02,525
before the end of December.

1002
01:46:03,145 --> 01:46:06,525
Gotcha. Super.

1003
01:46:07,105 --> 01:46:09,165
Tom, thank you. Thank you. Thanks Tom. Go

1004
01:46:09,355 --> 01:46:12,285
Council, we will move on to, I'm

1005
01:46:12,285 --> 01:46:13,285
Sorry.

1006
01:46:13,285 --> 01:46:13,645
Sorry, this isn't a question for you.

1007
01:46:14,125 --> 01:46:17,205
A question for the city clerk about the general election.

1008
01:46:19,145 --> 01:46:20,645
Are we doing that in Alumni Hall?

1009
01:46:22,645 --> 01:46:25,725
'cause I have concerns I know about a line up the stairs.

1010
01:46:25,945 --> 01:46:26,965
Oh, I know. I'm sure you do too.

1011
01:46:27,165 --> 01:46:31,685
I do too. Yes. Yes. Bob and I will talk tomorrow. Okay.

1012
01:46:31,705 --> 01:46:35,725
Or Michelle, about the general election. Just

1013
01:46:36,085 --> 01:46:37,565
November, November, November 3rd

1014
01:46:40,795 --> 01:46:45,365
Gymnasium One way or another. Yeah,

1015
01:46:46,275 --> 01:46:48,845
That would be, it's a little up in the air,

1016
01:46:48,845 --> 01:46:51,965
but it's actually, I think it's easier even to pivot

1017
01:46:52,985 --> 01:46:55,165
the election at sort of the last minute

1018
01:46:55,165 --> 01:46:57,725
because you're in the same general vicinity.

1019
01:46:57,875 --> 01:46:59,725
Yeah, no, but I just think switching

1020
01:46:59,865 --> 01:47:01,085
Alumni Hall has been fine.

1021
01:47:01,165 --> 01:47:04,045
I think for the smaller elections. I'm just worried about

1022
01:47:04,745 --> 01:47:06,245
The general I understand people

1023
01:47:06,725 --> 01:47:07,725
Lining up on those stairs.

1024
01:47:07,795 --> 01:47:10,005
Exactly. That seems like a bad

1025
01:47:12,595 --> 01:47:13,595
Stay tuned.

1026
01:47:15,195 --> 01:47:17,325
Okay, counselors, we'll move on

1027
01:47:17,325 --> 01:47:19,245
to item nine D on the agenda.

1028
01:47:19,275 --> 01:47:20,805
This is the manager search committee

1029
01:47:20,865 --> 01:47:22,565
update, councilor Gusan. Great.

1030
01:47:22,825 --> 01:47:24,725
As folks, no doubt saw warrant,

1031
01:47:24,945 --> 01:47:26,485
we started this meeting this evening

1032
01:47:26,485 --> 01:47:27,605
with an executive session

1033
01:47:27,755 --> 01:47:29,925
with the same manager search committee

1034
01:47:30,665 --> 01:47:35,005
and had a good robust discussion on the interviews that

1035
01:47:35,865 --> 01:47:37,645
the committee has been conducting.

1036
01:47:37,665 --> 01:47:40,125
So just to recap, for members of the public,

1037
01:47:41,025 --> 01:47:43,245
we reviewed applications that came in.

1038
01:47:43,305 --> 01:47:47,165
We selected a number of folks to interview

1039
01:47:47,985 --> 01:47:50,325
and we have recommended finalists to city council

1040
01:47:50,465 --> 01:47:53,285
and we will now be scheduling next steps

1041
01:47:53,515 --> 01:47:54,885
with those finalists.

1042
01:47:55,585 --> 01:47:57,885
We are committed, my understanding of our conversation

1043
01:47:57,885 --> 01:47:59,365
as the council is we are committed to moving quickly

1044
01:47:59,385 --> 01:48:01,925
and efficiently in the coming weeks

1045
01:48:02,145 --> 01:48:05,205
and still on track for what we've been saying all along,

1046
01:48:05,455 --> 01:48:07,605
which is a mid to third week of September.

1047
01:48:07,745 --> 01:48:09,765
We should be in a place to extend an offer

1048
01:48:09,825 --> 01:48:12,765
to someone if all continues to go on track.

1049
01:48:13,205 --> 01:48:15,285
I didn't, I don't know if anyone else wants to weigh in

1050
01:48:16,625 --> 01:48:17,845
on the conversation we had,

1051
01:48:17,905 --> 01:48:22,725
but it was a really nice overview in the Times Argus couple

1052
01:48:22,725 --> 01:48:26,725
of weeks ago and we, I think we are very much still on track

1053
01:48:26,725 --> 01:48:28,045
with everything that was reported there.

1054
01:48:28,795 --> 01:48:30,765
It's going really well. I'm, I'm excited.

1055
01:48:31,825 --> 01:48:33,805
No, I mean I think we, we have a good process.

1056
01:48:34,285 --> 01:48:35,525
I think we all have an understanding

1057
01:48:35,905 --> 01:48:37,365
how the process is going to go.

1058
01:48:37,505 --> 01:48:41,165
We know that we, we want to move quickly.

1059
01:48:41,445 --> 01:48:44,165
I mean we, we want to be naming the next city manager

1060
01:48:44,265 --> 01:48:47,285
and I think I I I think we've balanced

1061
01:48:49,585 --> 01:48:53,005
our anxiety to name a new city manager

1062
01:48:53,635 --> 01:48:56,485
with the appropriate due diligence that we all, that we have

1063
01:48:56,485 --> 01:48:59,525
to do in order to feel good about naming a new city manager.

1064
01:48:59,745 --> 01:49:03,285
So as far as the resumes that the committee forwarded those,

1065
01:49:03,705 --> 01:49:08,325
the three, congratulations, they are three very,

1066
01:49:08,435 --> 01:49:09,925
very strong candidates

1067
01:49:10,145 --> 01:49:12,925
and I'm excited, I'm excited to meet all three of them.

1068
01:49:13,225 --> 01:49:15,965
And all three would certainly do a great job.

1069
01:49:16,025 --> 01:49:18,605
And Barry, so once again, to the members of the committee,

1070
01:49:18,735 --> 01:49:21,965
folks who are teeing this up for the city council, council,

1071
01:49:21,965 --> 01:49:25,125
Augustine, council Ruthie, or thank you for your good work.

1072
01:49:25,785 --> 01:49:27,885
Any questions folks? Okay.

1073
01:49:27,885 --> 01:49:30,045
Then we'll move along to upcoming business.

1074
01:49:30,175 --> 01:49:31,325
We're gonna name a city manager.

1075
01:49:31,585 --> 01:49:32,685
That's about it for right now.

1076
01:49:34,145 --> 01:49:38,485
That's where we're focused like a laser getting

1077
01:49:38,485 --> 01:49:42,205
through the, getting through the paving projects,

1078
01:49:42,755 --> 01:49:45,565
finishing those up towards the end of the year,

1079
01:49:45,955 --> 01:49:50,405
finally getting, you know, route 14 South Main Street

1080
01:49:50,545 --> 01:49:54,325
and Washington Street, finally getting the mill

1081
01:49:54,325 --> 01:49:56,365
and field zone on those projects.

1082
01:49:56,485 --> 01:49:58,285
I think people will notice a big difference.

1083
01:49:59,185 --> 01:50:01,125
You know, we'll keep increasing the paving budget

1084
01:50:01,225 --> 01:50:02,285
and we'll get back to

1085
01:50:02,285 --> 01:50:05,245
where we should have been years ago but weren't.

1086
01:50:05,465 --> 01:50:07,365
So we're making progress. Yes.

1087
01:50:07,885 --> 01:50:09,885
Question. When do we find out about the results from

1088
01:50:09,905 --> 01:50:11,485
the grant applications?

1089
01:50:12,105 --> 01:50:15,885
Not until October. Okay. Not until October I believe.

1090
01:50:17,185 --> 01:50:20,485
Oh, I believe that committee meets, I want to say,

1091
01:50:21,205 --> 01:50:22,805
I wanna say October 5th.

1092
01:50:23,115 --> 01:50:26,125
That may not be the correct date, but I could, I could check

1093
01:50:26,125 --> 01:50:29,245
and see when they will, when they will vote on that.

1094
01:50:30,225 --> 01:50:32,605
And speaking of which, again, thank you.

1095
01:50:32,785 --> 01:50:35,685
As the chief mentioned, those applications went in today,

1096
01:50:36,225 --> 01:50:39,285
it was just, you know, an all hands on deck weekend.

1097
01:50:39,565 --> 01:50:42,925
I mean, we have been, you know, from the mayor on down,

1098
01:50:43,105 --> 01:50:45,165
we have all just been working together

1099
01:50:45,225 --> 01:50:47,805
for the past four weeks to pull those applications together.

1100
01:50:48,545 --> 01:50:51,405
And I am excited about both of them.

1101
01:50:52,045 --> 01:50:53,965
I mean, I think either of them could be

1102
01:50:53,965 --> 01:50:55,005
a home run for the city.

1103
01:50:55,345 --> 01:50:58,005
And what I'll be talking to the treasurer about is

1104
01:50:58,585 --> 01:51:00,565
if one is awarded the full amount,

1105
01:51:00,905 --> 01:51:02,605
how do we somehow fund them both?

1106
01:51:02,735 --> 01:51:05,325
Right. How do, how do, how do we get them both?

1107
01:51:05,745 --> 01:51:07,045
No, you know, I think about that.

1108
01:51:07,265 --> 01:51:11,725
So I don't take 20 year mortgages anymore. Okay.

1109
01:51:12,075 --> 01:51:16,285
Because statistically speaking, I may

1110
01:51:16,305 --> 01:51:17,845
or may not be around to pay it off.

1111
01:51:18,395 --> 01:51:21,165
Okay. Municipalities are different.

1112
01:51:21,585 --> 01:51:24,485
You know, municipalities go on for hundreds of years,

1113
01:51:24,985 --> 01:51:29,005
you know, I am, I, despite our issues, America will go on

1114
01:51:29,025 --> 01:51:30,125
for hundreds of years.

1115
01:51:30,785 --> 01:51:33,565
So it used to be years ago, municipalities, you know,

1116
01:51:33,565 --> 01:51:35,525
everybody's looking at Prospect Heights.

1117
01:51:35,525 --> 01:51:37,885
Well that's what municipalities did.

1118
01:51:38,675 --> 01:51:41,285
They built the roads, they did all of the infrastructure,

1119
01:51:41,715 --> 01:51:45,165
they sold the lots because it made the most sense

1120
01:51:45,745 --> 01:51:47,485
and everyone had an ownership interest.

1121
01:51:47,625 --> 01:51:51,685
And the more I think about, you know, as a private citizen,

1122
01:51:51,835 --> 01:51:53,485
I've done it with People's Health and Wellness clinic

1123
01:51:53,745 --> 01:51:56,205
and we've done it with the Meals on Wheels program

1124
01:51:56,385 --> 01:51:59,645
and figured out how to help them own their own building.

1125
01:51:59,875 --> 01:52:02,125
Because again, they're an organization that's going

1126
01:52:02,125 --> 01:52:03,325
to go on a very long time.

1127
01:52:03,665 --> 01:52:05,525
And sometimes I look at these projects,

1128
01:52:05,645 --> 01:52:07,285
I look at something like 1 43

1129
01:52:07,385 --> 01:52:10,565
and say, well, if a private citizen can develop a building,

1130
01:52:10,595 --> 01:52:11,845
then why can't everyone

1131
01:52:12,065 --> 01:52:15,605
and why couldn't 10,000 people own a piece of that building?

1132
01:52:16,995 --> 01:52:20,525
Just so yeah, it's gotten me all juiced up there, Carol.

1133
01:52:20,745 --> 01:52:24,525
I'm, I'm all, I'm all fired up to try to figure out a way

1134
01:52:24,525 --> 01:52:28,405
that we can, you know, I I I think the committee and,

1135
01:52:28,505 --> 01:52:30,325
and I think the staff and committee are gonna,

1136
01:52:30,665 --> 01:52:34,005
and board are gonna look positively at our applications.

1137
01:52:34,225 --> 01:52:36,125
But like I said, you know,

1138
01:52:36,425 --> 01:52:37,725
it would be like picking your favorite.

1139
01:52:37,925 --> 01:52:40,205
I couldn't pick one right now. I like them both.

1140
01:52:40,905 --> 01:52:42,285
So we'll see.

1141
01:52:42,735 --> 01:52:46,445
Brown Table Council Deering, who started? Oh, I'm sorry. Yes.

1142
01:52:46,865 --> 01:52:50,085
Did I miss it or did you skip the flood resiliency update

1143
01:52:50,345 --> 01:52:51,345
The auditorium.

1144
01:52:51,345 --> 01:52:54,645
Oh, the auditorium was the, we, we flipped gears

1145
01:52:54,745 --> 01:52:57,525
and we had the auditorium project be the flood

1146
01:52:57,765 --> 01:52:59,125
resiliency update.

1147
01:52:59,185 --> 01:53:01,165
Did you have anything? Oh, oh, okay.

1148
01:53:01,545 --> 01:53:03,925
So yeah, so at, you did miss it at the very beginning

1149
01:53:03,925 --> 01:53:05,805
of the meeting I asked for an agenda adjustment

1150
01:53:06,165 --> 01:53:07,925
because the auditorium is one of the listed goals

1151
01:53:09,505 --> 01:53:11,165
and I've been very busy with the city manager,

1152
01:53:11,165 --> 01:53:13,325
Councilor Dearing, started school round table,

1153
01:53:13,595 --> 01:53:14,685
Started school baby.

1154
01:53:15,715 --> 01:53:16,885
Lots Of lots of great stuff.

1155
01:53:17,555 --> 01:53:20,165
Lots of good positive attitude and behaviors.

1156
01:53:21,345 --> 01:53:24,445
Really great to see a lot of the enthusiasm, a lot

1157
01:53:24,445 --> 01:53:27,205
of the people, just a lot of the things

1158
01:53:27,205 --> 01:53:31,045
that we embrace here in Barry we're really just trying

1159
01:53:31,145 --> 01:53:33,165
to just show a new story.

1160
01:53:34,355 --> 01:53:37,965
Nice. So really that's, that's the key is just, you know,

1161
01:53:37,985 --> 01:53:39,925
people always have a story,

1162
01:53:40,145 --> 01:53:42,285
but you can always have a new story to tell

1163
01:53:42,885 --> 01:53:44,125
with the things that are going on.

1164
01:53:44,145 --> 01:53:46,165
And that's really what we're trying to do within the school.

1165
01:53:46,705 --> 01:53:48,965
So lots of great stuff going on at Bear City School.

1166
01:53:49,395 --> 01:53:50,685
Fantastic. Counselor,

1167
01:53:51,045 --> 01:53:54,005
I just wanna extend a thank you to the DPW

1168
01:53:54,105 --> 01:53:56,285
for all the work that they're doing on Camp Street.

1169
01:53:56,585 --> 01:54:01,165
And a plea for please restore the stop sign

1170
01:54:01,275 --> 01:54:03,605
that is on camp.

1171
01:54:03,965 --> 01:54:08,085
I mean, because I've seen so many close calls There were Can

1172
01:54:08,085 --> 01:54:09,085
You bring a temporary one up There?

1173
01:54:09,135 --> 01:54:10,285
There isn't one. Okay.

1174
01:54:10,285 --> 01:54:13,005
Brian, Brian said he, he was getting a temporary

1175
01:54:13,135 --> 01:54:14,135
Check.

1176
01:54:14,135 --> 01:54:16,205
I haven't seen it. Maybe I could nudge him again. I'll

1177
01:54:16,205 --> 01:54:17,205
Nudge him again to, because he told

1178
01:54:17,205 --> 01:54:18,445
they were bringing, they were

1179
01:54:18,525 --> 01:54:19,525
Bringing up.

1180
01:54:19,525 --> 01:54:21,405
Yeah. There was another real close call this afternoon.

1181
01:54:21,405 --> 01:54:22,805
People just, you know, people

1182
01:54:22,865 --> 01:54:24,965
who aren't from Berry don't know that they have

1183
01:54:24,965 --> 01:54:27,125
to stop there and so they don't.

1184
01:54:28,265 --> 01:54:29,605
And somebody's coming downhill

1185
01:54:29,825 --> 01:54:31,685
and I just don't want anyone to get killed.

1186
01:54:32,675 --> 01:54:33,725
Council Guston,

1187
01:54:34,605 --> 01:54:36,365
I have two updates from the Aldrich Library.

1188
01:54:37,225 --> 01:54:40,365
The first is that the Aldrich Library is now fine free,

1189
01:54:40,775 --> 01:54:44,925
which means, which is a really phenomenal development.

1190
01:54:45,835 --> 01:54:47,965
There's actually been a ton of really good study

1191
01:54:47,965 --> 01:54:49,205
and research on this over the years.

1192
01:54:49,385 --> 01:54:52,925
And people don't feel ashamed to bring books back.

1193
01:54:52,925 --> 01:54:56,565
Books get back just as, just as well as if there were fines

1194
01:54:57,825 --> 01:54:58,965
and people are able to

1195
01:54:58,965 --> 01:55:00,285
participate more fully in the library.

1196
01:55:00,475 --> 01:55:02,525
It's not actually a revenue generator for folks.

1197
01:55:02,625 --> 01:55:04,245
And actually sometimes libraries do better

1198
01:55:04,245 --> 01:55:06,605
because what their assign is, is what their assign is.

1199
01:55:06,605 --> 01:55:07,805
Instead is you return

1200
01:55:07,805 --> 01:55:08,925
this book late, would you like to donate?

1201
01:55:08,925 --> 01:55:10,805
And then people like give more money than they would

1202
01:55:11,005 --> 01:55:12,725
actually be paying in 25 cents in fines.

1203
01:55:14,265 --> 01:55:16,325
And overall it's a really, really nice step forward

1204
01:55:16,345 --> 01:55:17,805
to making the Aldrich even more

1205
01:55:17,805 --> 01:55:19,445
accessible for the community.

1206
01:55:19,905 --> 01:55:23,685
And also September is National Library Card signup month.

1207
01:55:24,105 --> 01:55:25,845
So I put a challenge to members of council.

1208
01:55:25,945 --> 01:55:28,485
If you do not yet have an library card with the Aldrich,

1209
01:55:28,545 --> 01:55:30,285
please walk yourselves over and,

1210
01:55:30,485 --> 01:55:33,245
and make sure you participate in National Library card.

1211
01:55:33,275 --> 01:55:34,525
Sign up month.

1212
01:55:34,745 --> 01:55:36,845
I'm going tomorrow to pick up my books for reading

1213
01:55:36,865 --> 01:55:38,165
by the pool on Labor Day weekend.

1214
01:55:38,665 --> 01:55:40,005
So I already have a card.

1215
01:55:41,645 --> 01:55:43,645
I have two things. One is

1216
01:55:44,335 --> 01:55:47,205
Front Porch Forum was ablaze about the

1217
01:55:47,935 --> 01:55:49,525
Drain Adopt A Dream program.

1218
01:55:50,305 --> 01:55:53,165
And thank you councilor. Hi Hillgardner for Chi.

1219
01:55:53,165 --> 01:55:54,445
You, blaze is the right word for drain.

1220
01:55:54,755 --> 01:55:58,165
Just they were swamped. Swamped, flooded.

1221
01:55:58,355 --> 01:56:00,525
Much better With with,

1222
01:56:00,625 --> 01:56:02,525
but I thought it was great that there was like,

1223
01:56:02,525 --> 01:56:04,925
there were conversations so I think that was fantastic.

1224
01:56:05,105 --> 01:56:06,605
But maybe we should also Yeah,

1225
01:56:06,935 --> 01:56:08,365
after the city manager search,

1226
01:56:08,375 --> 01:56:10,205
maybe do another little push about that.

1227
01:56:10,205 --> 01:56:12,965
Yeah. And the second thing is, on behalf of my husband,

1228
01:56:13,285 --> 01:56:14,525
I want to thank the kind people

1229
01:56:14,525 --> 01:56:16,165
who picked up his poor chainsaw

1230
01:56:16,165 --> 01:56:17,365
that fell outta the back of his truck.

1231
01:56:17,705 --> 01:56:21,125
And all of the community members who saw his,

1232
01:56:21,545 --> 01:56:23,085
his plea on front Porch Forum

1233
01:56:23,145 --> 01:56:25,445
and had seen the person who posted on Facebook

1234
01:56:25,705 --> 01:56:28,805
and reunited him with his 26-year-old chainsaws.

1235
01:56:28,905 --> 01:56:31,605
Oh, thank you. Bounced out the truck.

1236
01:56:31,715 --> 01:56:33,845
Well his tailgate fell open and it bounced out

1237
01:56:34,145 --> 01:56:37,605
and he has apparently sentimental value for this chainsaw.

1238
01:56:38,665 --> 01:56:40,925
Is it okay? I don't, yeah, I guess it's fine.

1239
01:56:40,945 --> 01:56:43,685
He went down and helped a friend to li have gone down.

1240
01:56:44,795 --> 01:56:46,925
Yeah, it's good. But thank you. Thank you. Good.

1241
01:56:47,025 --> 01:56:48,965
The good work of Facebook and Front Porch Forum.

1242
01:56:49,225 --> 01:56:50,325
We reconnected them.

1243
01:56:51,385 --> 01:56:55,965
Ca Where's your Honor? I attended a overdose awareness

1244
01:56:56,605 --> 01:56:58,485
remembrance, candlelight vigil last night

1245
01:56:59,075 --> 01:57:00,165
over at Courier Park.

1246
01:57:00,485 --> 01:57:03,765
Chief Vail spoke next year when it

1247
01:57:03,765 --> 01:57:04,845
comes around, you should go.

1248
01:57:05,895 --> 01:57:07,245
You'd be it.

1249
01:57:07,265 --> 01:57:09,605
It would just open your eyes out how bad

1250
01:57:10,195 --> 01:57:12,445
this overdose business is.

1251
01:57:13,385 --> 01:57:15,205
And good job last night, Brad.

1252
01:57:16,695 --> 01:57:17,965
Thank you Councilor. Worth here.

1253
01:57:19,835 --> 01:57:21,245
With all the construction

1254
01:57:21,245 --> 01:57:24,445
and everything in Barry it, I'm getting more positive about

1255
01:57:24,445 --> 01:57:26,805
what it's going to be like in three to five years

1256
01:57:27,665 --> 01:57:31,325
and I just can't help when, I love when I see a officer

1257
01:57:31,585 --> 01:57:34,765
or a b on a bicycle, which I've seen

1258
01:57:34,945 --> 01:57:36,965
and I just love that. That's excellent.

1259
01:57:37,935 --> 01:57:42,005
Thank you. So being positive,

1260
01:57:43,025 --> 01:57:47,085
not having a an official city manager

1261
01:57:47,435 --> 01:57:49,565
certainly makes the council meeting shorter.

1262
01:57:50,475 --> 01:57:55,245
However, I have spent more and, and I'm grateful,

1263
01:57:55,345 --> 01:57:58,725
but I have spent more time in city hall

1264
01:57:59,225 --> 01:58:01,485
and with department heads and lobbying

1265
01:58:01,505 --> 01:58:03,845
and doing stuff that a manager is really supposed

1266
01:58:03,845 --> 01:58:06,365
to be doing in the past month than,

1267
01:58:06,435 --> 01:58:08,885
than I have probably in the past year.

1268
01:58:10,465 --> 01:58:14,965
So can't wait to name a new city manager so I can get back

1269
01:58:14,965 --> 01:58:16,125
to my cushy schedule.

1270
01:58:17,005 --> 01:58:18,085
Speaking of cushy schedule,

1271
01:58:18,445 --> 01:58:20,725
I will be traveling on the 22nd counselor,

1272
01:58:20,785 --> 01:58:23,405
so I will likely not be at that council meeting.

1273
01:58:23,735 --> 01:58:25,605
Don't know. So I just wanted to tee it up for you

1274
01:58:25,635 --> 01:58:28,005
because you would be the, oh my God.

1275
01:58:28,115 --> 01:58:30,245
We'd go from acting city manager now. Acting mayor.

1276
01:58:31,035 --> 01:58:33,365
Everybody's just acting and not serious about it.

1277
01:58:34,715 --> 01:58:36,125
It's like Broadway around you

1278
01:58:36,665 --> 01:58:38,205
And, and, and with that counsel,

1279
01:58:38,865 --> 01:58:40,685
so I don't think we need an executive session.

1280
01:58:40,845 --> 01:58:43,325
A motion to adjourn would be in order. So, so moved.

1281
01:58:43,495 --> 01:58:46,445
Thank you. Any discussion? Hearing none.

1282
01:58:46,505 --> 01:58:48,525
All those in favor, the motion is presented.

1283
01:58:48,665 --> 01:58:51,685
Please signify by saying aye. And those opposed?

1284
01:58:51,745 --> 01:58:53,765
We are adjourned. Thank you. I'm so Brad.

1285
01:58:53,905 --> 01:58:55,285
I'm sure you're looking forward to a

1286
01:58:57,065 --> 01:59:00,645
And I didn't realize if and a good place.

1287
01:59:01,075 --> 01:59:01,725
It's a number.