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On audio record.

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We will be moving in into executive session to start,

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but for right now we are until the meeting is called

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to order, we are an open, open,

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Open and unmuted.

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Yes. Correct. So we don't need to push these buttons.

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They're always on correct. To talk.

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Yes, correct. Yes. Yeah.

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It's actually the little guy there.

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But these, if you push this it. Oh, them? These? Yeah.

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Oh, these are always on. Yeah. Sorry. They're

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Always on. Yeah.

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Excellent. Yep.

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And I believe we're still waiting for one other person

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before we can, who's

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Joining us on Zoom.

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Right. And we have Nicholas, we have Scott,

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John, are you hanging out with us later? Yeah.

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Yes. Zach, I'll be

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outside waiting for the executive session.

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Yeah. See you later. Goes, need to go out on the door.

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Was poster right front of you. Oh, sort

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Sure. Sometimes we put them up, sometimes we forget.

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And then when somebody comes in and yell at them

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and say it's executive

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More fun without the budget.

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Oh no. Say yeah, I'm sure.

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School board. Yeah, there. Talk to him. See. Little upset.

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We'll get there. It's having a, Nicholas

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should start with six.

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He's having a tough stretch. Yes.

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Are you guys going right from this executive session

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to a regular meeting?

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Presumably? I think

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Maybe we probably take a five minute recess or something.

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Yeah, we can come Get you in between.

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Yeah. Excuse me. Give everybody a potty break

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and continue business.

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Excuse. No, I might need one.

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We're just waiting on Scott, is that correct? Correct.

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Okay. And Scott, is there any

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Sweet? Awesome.

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Thank you. Not a problem.

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Yeah, I'll let you know as soon as he gets on.

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You should be able to see it too. But I'll

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let you know when I'm amending him.

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Who's the guy in the suit? I don't even know

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You Suit tie.

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Wow. Look

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What they've done to me. Yeah,

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It's terrible. So

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Nicholas, was this the same computer that you were behind?

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Because this screen looks way smaller.

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It's looks different.

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No, it's the same one. It's just same in a different spot.

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Here. Hold on. What if we do this?

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Ah, That's the way to do it.

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Yeah. Me, he, me and him spent a lot

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of time together too and he doesn't even know it either.

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Doesn't even know it. That's,

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See past council meetings, Nicholas,

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which we all feel very sorry for him.

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I, yeah. I Boy, someone's got to do it

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Crying at three in the morning.

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You guys are melted tones. That put me back to sleep.

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We put the baby back to sleep though.

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That's the question. Absolutely.

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No, she has opinions

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Ever.

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There's a famous car talk episode where some guy called in

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and said, you're the, you're the show

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that calms my sheep down.

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Like he played it in the barn and car talk was what?

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Just got the sheep. Hey, that's fair. That was awesome.

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so early learning, we always have a waiting room.

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We have been zoomed bombed many times,

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so we always do meeting a waiting room.

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We always admit folks sort of as they come

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and sometimes they pile up

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and it's hard to like,

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if you're also giving a report at the

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same time, see them piling up.

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But yeah, I do let them in when you can.

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And as you've seen in our other meetings,

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we do executive breakout rooms.

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So we'll create the breakout room shortly

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and invite Nicholas and Scott when he gets here.

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That's part I want see because that's

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where I'm less breakout rooms.

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Yep. We'll just do a manual assign of the writing

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Nicholas into the executive session.

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Yeah. And and Scott when he gets here.

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So, so, and then is everyone come in that, you know,

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everyone that comes in here, they have stripped down

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permissions now?

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Or is it like they,

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they would have to like

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request to share. They would've to request,

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They would've to request to share,

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but they can unmute themselves.

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Yeah. And they can turn their own video on and off.

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The chat is open,

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but what we advise folks is that it's

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for technical difficulties only the,

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the chat is not part of the recorded meeting.

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So like they can't submit their public comments by chat.

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I think people mostly know the drill now,

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but in the past there have been like long discursion

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and the chats between people and that's not right.

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We, we stop that. Okay.

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Just 'cause it's not open meeting law

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and also focus and things like that.

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All right. Live chatted on something, Keith, you

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Didn't bring, it's snowing the email

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have some time concerns.

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Should we move in and let Scott join us when he can?

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I think that's fine. I I did just text it,

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text him the Zooms login stuff.

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So hopefully he's, I can send him another text here.

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But yeah, we, we can get started.

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Okay. All right.

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So with that, it is currently 5:04 PM

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on Tuesday, September 22nd, 2026.

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I'll call this meeting of the regular berry city

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council meeting to order.

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We have some adjustments to the agenda.

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One is going to be that we're going to move

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resolution 2026 dash 14 from the consent agenda

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and we're going to place that on the agenda as item nine E.

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Are there any objections to that? Okay.

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And with that we'll look for a motion to approve the agenda.

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So moved second. Okay. Any discussion? Okay.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye. Opposed? Okay. Motion carries.

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Also want to acknowledge our new city manager,

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Patrick Cushing, thank you for being here this evening.

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Welcome aboard sir.

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Thank you. Look Forward to working with you.

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You Too. Do you have any comments for the public

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or any of us other than

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that you've been stalking us on YouTube? No,

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I mean it's main thing I've been stalking on YouTube.

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No, it's been a great, great first two days, the, the staff.

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Yeah, it's two days so we'll talk later after that.

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But staff has been incredibly helpful.

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Community has been very receptive.

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It's Barry's a lovely place

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and the drive isn't too bad, so we're getting there.

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But yeah, so far so good and I'm excited.

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All right, wonderful. So with

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that we have an executive executive section.

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Executive session scheduled for collective bargaining

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So I'm looking for foot motion for findings. I

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Second. Okay. Any discussion?

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All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye.

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And that's going to include Nicholas and Scott.

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Cameron. And was there

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anyone else that we're including in that?

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I'm sorry? The city manager and the new manager.

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And also Oh, okay.

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And the fire chief and Christina, our finance director.

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All right. Sorry. Any more discussion?

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All right, thank you for being patient with me.

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All those in favor say aye. Aye.

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Aye. Opposed? Okay, so now motion

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to enter executive session.

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So I move Second.

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Second. Okay. Any discussion? Okay.

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All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay.

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Without, we'll enter executive session,

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Signed manual so

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that we only take the people with us.

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Us we're gonna sign this NC system 'cause that's what, yep.

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We'll bring that thing the owl in

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and we'll bring Nick Hudson in.

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Then later we'll see when Scott arrives

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and we'll be able to do that.

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Everyone else will stay in the main session, open the rooms

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who was down here when it Yep.

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Under a move more, excuse me. And then that

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Room getting sick on us counselor

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As well.

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Yep. All my water room. Both places have to join these rec,

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Blah, blah, blah, Blah. All right. We should be good.

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Now I have a motion to exit, exit executive session.

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So moved second. Okay. Any discussion? Okay.

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All those in favor say aye. Aye. May Opposed? Okay.

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We will return to regular session.

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We are going to take a five minute recess

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and we will resume at 6:00 PM

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and just tell him we took a recess.

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Yeah. Did you, you approve the agenda? Yes.

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I think we are actually gonna need this

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executive session for legal.

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Yeah, if we can just update that.

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Yeah, we can do, yeah, it's as needed.

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So it's David, we are taking five minute recess

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before we start the main council

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meeting, just as a heads up.

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We're gonna come back from our recess.

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Thank you all for being here this evening.

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We've an executive session before this.

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We're going to open it up to visitors in communication.

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We're gonna, this an opportunity for anybody that wants

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to address a council about an item

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that is not on the agenda.

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Okay. Hearing and seeing none, we will move on

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to the consent

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agenda of, oh,

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Am I the only visitor in communication?

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Yes. Come on up front. I assume so many more.

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Sorry, Scotland on you.

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I said to Carol earlier, it's so nice

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to see you walk in these halls.

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It's really comforting. I didn't take her keys.

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My name is Shauna Trader.

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For the record, I am a East Berry resident

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and that makes me a very town voter.

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But I do a lot of work here in Berry City

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and to using my two minutes

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I'll, I'll have to rush a little bit.

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I'm here to introduce a project

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that I'm working on called Voices from a

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Vermont Sacrifice Zone.

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I've already done about a dozen hours of interviews with

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unhoused folks that live right here in Berry City, kind

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of all up and down the Main Street corridor

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and the bridges that lead off

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of the main street corridor, et cetera.

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Here to let you know that this work is underway.

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And I do have some future action plan action items

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that I'll need board collaboration with.

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For instance, I'd like to hold a community cookout,

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I'm gonna need a permit for that eventually.

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And I would like to do a public art project, river Street,

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the retaining wall that's down near the end.

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It's real dilapidated.

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I'm sure you've seen there's some naughty language on it.

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I would love to transform that space into a big public mural

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that kind of honors the complexity

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and the diversity that is our local unhoused folks images

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and words that aren't heard very often by our community

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because of these people being in vulnerable positions.

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None of those documents have been submitted.

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I'm just introducing it to the world

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and just kind of planting seeds that I'll be coming back.

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I'd like to get an item, I'd like

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to be on the docket at some point

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and I'll share some of the lessons

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and some of the stories that I've heard I think actually

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could be valuable for the things that we do here.

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Anything else that you wanted to add?

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Any questions? Council, wo

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Did you have you, I'm a liaison to the

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Unhoused Community committee.

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Would you be willing to come and talk to us?

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Yeah, absolutely. Of course. Councilor Gson, you

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Mentioned a cookout in public art.

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Do you have any other planned output?

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Just the kind of the public work that I'm doing here.

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We do have a Facebook group with the same name

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where I've invited people to engage

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and talk about this issue that we're facing here.

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So there's a public forum already established

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and then I'll be doing more work like this.

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And honestly the end stuff may not even be known yet.

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That project is finished in the spring of next year.

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There will, there will be a popup event at the State House

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for my work and the work of my cohort.

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I'm not alone, but I'm the only one working in central

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Vermont doing any project.

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And then I'd like to get it in the Alrich.

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So hopefully all the work will be available.

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Can you just tell us again the name of the project

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so people want if to look it up they can go.

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Yes. It's Voices from a Vermont Sacrifice, voices

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from a Vermont sacrifice zone.

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And you can email voices from vermont@gmail.com if you

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wanna connect with me.

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This is a project I'm doing in collaboration

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with Vermont Folk Life.

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So I do have a fiscal agent.

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I I can't accept tax deductible donations.

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Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to say that.

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And we would love it because the cookout

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and all that stuff, I do have a small grant already from

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NOFA for the cookout, but you know the cost

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of food these days, so it's not gonna cover it all.

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I'd love to have the community, it's not just

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for the unhoused folks, the cookout, it's for everyone.

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It's an event to try to bring housed

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and unhoused folks in the same space so

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that we can build community.

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Appreciate that. Councilor Russon, I would just

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Add that the city has some, some microgrants available

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that would help cover food for the cookout

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and you should look to the recreation director

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For information to those. Michelle?

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Michelle, My old neighbor.

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Great. Any other questions for Shauna? Wonderful.

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Thank you all so much. Thank you for coming

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and showing, telling us about that opportunity. Thanks so

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Much folks. Sean. All

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Right.

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Anyone else that wants to address the council about an item

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that is not on the agenda?

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Right. Hearing

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and seeing none, we move on to the consent agenda.

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We are adding an item five E would be approval

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of the modification of the easement, extension

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of the real estate option for Steven's branch apartments

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that was emailed to you late this evening.

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So you'll also find that in your email.

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So we're going to have approval of the minutes

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of the regular meeting of September 1st, 2026,

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the special meeting of 9 9 20 26, the special meeting

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of 9 16 20 26.

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We're also going to approve the resolution 2026 dash 14

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resolution relating to the financing

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of the water treatment facility. Headworks project.

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Oh point of order. We moved that. Sorry, we

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Moved that.

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Oh yeah, sorry. We did

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two nine E on the new business.

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I apologize. Thank you. Yep.

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Appreciate your patience with me this evening.

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I'm slightly nervous running the meeting.

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You're doing a great job, believe it or not.

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Just keep going. All right, so clerk's offices

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and licenses.

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Licenses and permits and there are none. Wonderful.

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And any contracts for the in, for the manager to approve

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Are, are those the contracts or couple

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Things, but they're going to be taken under

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Tom Baker's presentation, right?

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The work contracts? Yeah,

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They're, yep.

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They're gonna be B and C of

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New business.

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New business, yep. Okay, wonderful.

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So I'll need a motion to approve.

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I move second. Any discussion Councillor Soen.

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I have just one small correction, Cheryl, on the first,

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the September 1st minutes, the, it says the next meeting,

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next regular meeting is scheduled for September 2nd.

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Yeah, somebody already brought

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That up. I've

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Just ed the other two.

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I think it was the other two, but I just saw that

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and I was like, we didn't have two nights in a row, did we?

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And I had to look back at my calendar to make sure,

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but that is the only thing that I had. Thank you.

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All right, so motion. We've got a motion and a second.

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We've had discussion. Oh wait,

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Sorry.

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Yes ma'am. Could someone Explain,

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could you explain the easement that we're approving

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because we just received it.

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This, these

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Are both extensions of documents that already exist.

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Okay. And were approved by the council

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many, many months ago.

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Okay. It's associated with the, the easements around the

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semi seminary street housing project,

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the Stevens Branch apartments,

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and also the option for the sale to down street.

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We just need a little more time,

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unfortunately I just got them from the attorney

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two hours ago and I forwarded them to you

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with the language from the attorney.

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So an explanation, but it's just extensions

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of documents that already exist.

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Okay, thank you. Here we here.

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Anything else? All right,

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so all those in favor say aye a Aye.

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The opposed. Okay, that passes and we'll move on.

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So we're gonna approve the city warrants.

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We're gonna approve the week of 9 23 20 26.

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Councillor Swen, do you need any of these pulled out

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or can we approve them all together?

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I have to abstain from the

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9 8 9 9.

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All right. But if, if you need me

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to abstain from all of them, it's fine.

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Sure, that works too. So we are going to approve all

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of the warrants for week of 9 23 ratify Week nine nine

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and ratify week nine 16.

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Do you have a motion? So moved. Second. Second. All right.

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Any discussion? Okay, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

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Opposed? Sustain abstention. Noted.

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Okay, clerk's report. Madam Clerk.

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Okay. So the clerk's office has just finished up data

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entering and filing for the third

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Barry Unified Union School District budget Revote.

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And at this time we do not have a date set

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for the next vote.

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We'll keep you updated as we get the information.

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With that being said, we still have two

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definite elections on the horizon.

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The Central Vermont Career Center bond vote

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and the midterm general election, both are scheduled

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for Tuesday, November 3rd.

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The state of Vermont has been mailing out,

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starting yesterday, the 21st.

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The bail ballots to all registered voters

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and they're doing it in a rolling town by town basis

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with a deadline of October 1st

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to have all the ballots in the mail.

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And please allow at least seven to 10 business days

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for your ballot to arrive in the mail

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before you contact our office stating you have not

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yet received it.

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We do have some ballots in our office for those who

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will sign an affidavit stating they have

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not yet received it.

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But please allow the postal service to get,

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get it into your, your mailbox.

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The career center ballots are not being mailed

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to all registered voters.

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They are being mailed to those who have signed up

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for absentee ballots as of today

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for the calendar year of 2026.

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If you would like the career center ballot mailed to you,

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please go log into your online account

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or call the clerk's office

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and we can certainly get you signed up for ballots

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for the remainder of the year.

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So that would include the career center

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and possibly the Barry Unified Union School District

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fourth budget vote.

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And my last point, I'd like

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to make the clerk's offices also finish collecting the first

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quarter property taxes with the postmark policy in place.

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I think things went well for the, for the most part,

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we did notice a lot more foot traffic coming in to ensure

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that they're making the deadline

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and the water department is currently in their collection

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and they have noticed a lot of foot traffic seeing people

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that normally just mail them in.

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They, they're seeing faces now.

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So just to, I think it's going well and people understand.

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Wonderful. Any questions for the clerk?

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01:17:27,045 --> 01:17:28,265
All right, wonderful. Thank you

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for all your service to the community.

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01:17:31,405 --> 01:17:33,505
We will Any liquor or cannabis?

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01:17:34,125 --> 01:17:36,825
Yes, I did send, send out today. It was kind of late.

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I think it was around four o'clock. Tallies.

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Their first and third.

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Okay. So we will open the liquor control board.

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Do we have a motion to approve the liquor license?

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01:17:50,835 --> 01:17:54,855
I moved second. Any discussion? Okay.

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With a new discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.

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Any opposed? Okay. That passes and that's it. Correct. Okay.

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So we will close the liquor board.

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Mr. Manager, welcome aboard. Thank you.

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Thanks for being here. Yeah.

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So again, to introduce myself to the, the, the audience

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and the public that may not have heard it earlier.

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I am Patrick Cushing.

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I'm the new city manager

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and it's been great so far.

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Again, very, Barry's been very, very receptive.

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The staff, the community, it's been, it's been really great.

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01:18:38,595 --> 01:18:40,555
We've had two beautiful days that I've been here

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and walking around and, you know, meeting people.

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But it, I'm very impressed so far

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by the quality of your staff.

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01:18:50,515 --> 01:18:53,835
I don't have much on the interim C manager's report

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or city manager's report. Thank you. Yeah,

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01:18:55,635 --> 01:18:57,435
You're not the interim. You are our city manager.

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My contract says interim, however, that's

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because of semantics, but so far don't have much.

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'cause again, I've been here, this is my second day

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and it's been definitely hit the ground running a lot

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of meeting with the department heads, got some tours around.

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Tom and I went around this morning, saw the odd

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and the BOR trying to learn your lang your lingo.

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We'll we're gonna talk more about those later on,

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so we're not gonna cover 'em now.

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And met some of the other people

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that are contractors or attorneys, different items.

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And so it's just been nothing major to report in this.

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We'll cover again, things in later session

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and again executive session.

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But it's been going great so far.

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So again, very appreciative to the people and the board.

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The council here and, and the staff. They've been great.

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They all made me breakfast this morning.

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Oh, I brought them donuts.

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01:19:58,245 --> 01:20:01,185
We, so it was kind of like, oh, I sold my breakfast.

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01:20:01,365 --> 01:20:04,065
Ben brought you breakfast and nothing. But we sold ours. No,

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01:20:06,645 --> 01:20:07,645
No.

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I'm not sure if you'll know this,

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but do you know when Camp Street's getting paved?

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01:20:12,495 --> 01:20:14,995
No. Okay. I will find out for you.

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01:20:15,615 --> 01:20:16,835
That'd be great. That'd

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Be good.

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01:20:17,835 --> 01:20:18,515
You want me? I can make up a day.

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01:20:18,735 --> 01:20:23,025
You can just make something up for Thank you. No

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Problem.

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Does anyone else have

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questions for me that I can bring back? I think

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In general, the biggest question is regarding paving.

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When things like Berlin Street is gonna get reopened,

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Paving schedule, that It might be nice

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to just have a future paving projects,

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city works projects, big old update. Yeah.

517
01:20:42,495 --> 01:20:44,495
Okay. If we could have Brian Baker come in

518
01:20:44,495 --> 01:20:45,855
and kind of give us an overview

519
01:20:46,755 --> 01:20:49,215
and let everybody know kind of what's going on now

520
01:20:49,215 --> 01:20:51,895
and what the pro what the plan's going to be going forward.

521
01:20:52,135 --> 01:20:54,095
I know the community would be appreciative of that.

522
01:20:54,605 --> 01:20:57,615
Sure. Well, for Camp Street, it's, there's a,

523
01:20:57,955 --> 01:20:59,575
the first coat and I think people

524
01:20:59,575 --> 01:21:00,735
think that's the last coat.

525
01:21:00,835 --> 01:21:02,415
And so it's a bit confusing

526
01:21:02,415 --> 01:21:05,575
because it's not really, really a great, you know,

527
01:21:05,575 --> 01:21:07,295
the manhole covers are sticking way up

528
01:21:07,355 --> 01:21:09,015
and it's a little rough in some parts.

529
01:21:09,015 --> 01:21:12,095
Oh yeah. And so if we could let people know when it's gonna

530
01:21:12,095 --> 01:21:13,855
happen, then I think then they'd be like, oh,

531
01:21:13,855 --> 01:21:15,335
that's not the fi finished product.

532
01:21:15,365 --> 01:21:17,295
Yeah. I think they think that's what it is right now, so,

533
01:21:17,295 --> 01:21:18,295
Okay.

534
01:21:18,295 --> 01:21:18,855
No, thank you for the, the feedback there.

535
01:21:20,655 --> 01:21:24,955
Anyone else? All right, we will move on to new biz,

536
01:21:25,195 --> 01:21:26,195
Actually.

537
01:21:26,195 --> 01:21:28,715
Sorry. We will at some point, the mayor has asked me

538
01:21:28,715 --> 01:21:30,635
to do a community meet and greet.

539
01:21:31,335 --> 01:21:34,395
So I will be doing one, like I have to figure out where,

540
01:21:34,495 --> 01:21:35,675
but I'll be doing one in the evening

541
01:21:35,695 --> 01:21:38,555
and then I'll be one doing one on a Saturday or Sunday.

542
01:21:38,915 --> 01:21:40,355
'cause I know people have different schedules.

543
01:21:40,915 --> 01:21:43,435
The one Saturday and Sunday my family will likely be at.

544
01:21:44,815 --> 01:21:45,955
So if you want to yell at me,

545
01:21:45,955 --> 01:21:47,035
can you yell at me at the evening one?

546
01:21:49,055 --> 01:21:51,035
You think I'm pretty cool? Maybe,

547
01:21:52,135 --> 01:21:53,795
but, so I'll, I'll make public

548
01:21:54,355 --> 01:21:55,275
when we are gonna have those

549
01:21:55,275 --> 01:21:56,395
events and where they'll be located.

550
01:21:56,455 --> 01:21:58,635
But they are, they'll be in the next week or so.

551
01:21:59,995 --> 01:22:02,925
Awesome. Look forward to attending both of those. Good.

552
01:22:04,005 --> 01:22:08,265
All right. So new business item A under new business granted

553
01:22:08,465 --> 01:22:09,985
C Housing Inc.

554
01:22:10,305 --> 01:22:12,865
DBA Lincoln House request of for approval

555
01:22:13,005 --> 01:22:14,865
of loan forgiveness for deferred loan.

556
01:22:20,895 --> 01:22:21,985
Good Evening counselors.

557
01:22:22,475 --> 01:22:25,705
Thank you for entertaining this discussion.

558
01:22:25,965 --> 01:22:27,025
And potential motion.

559
01:22:29,015 --> 01:22:31,705
I'll try to condense what I wrote in a very lengthy

560
01:22:31,705 --> 01:22:33,585
and detailed report.

561
01:22:34,295 --> 01:22:39,025
This is a greater than 30-year-old loan for housing.

562
01:22:40,575 --> 01:22:44,795
And the reporting requirements are literally just that

563
01:22:45,865 --> 01:22:49,435
this company sends us their audit and we check a box

564
01:22:49,455 --> 01:22:50,995
and we move on and we do it every year.

565
01:22:53,175 --> 01:22:58,035
I'd like to introduce Sarah Rowan and Norm Ley.

566
01:22:59,375 --> 01:23:00,925
Sarah is, I

567
01:23:00,925 --> 01:23:03,565
Am the executive nurse administrator as my official title,

568
01:23:03,785 --> 01:23:05,165
but I am the director of Lincoln House.

569
01:23:06,385 --> 01:23:07,525
I'm on the board of directors.

570
01:23:09,235 --> 01:23:12,815
And so, like I said, this becomes a paperwork exercise

571
01:23:12,915 --> 01:23:17,255
for something that the city did 30 years ago under a grant.

572
01:23:17,395 --> 01:23:18,895
The grant became a deferred loan.

573
01:23:18,955 --> 01:23:20,135
We have four others

574
01:23:21,115 --> 01:23:23,895
and the state is trying to very slowly get rid

575
01:23:23,975 --> 01:23:25,175
of these, close these down.

576
01:23:25,315 --> 01:23:27,015
So we don't need these anymore

577
01:23:27,245 --> 01:23:29,695
because Lincoln House is not going to change

578
01:23:30,125 --> 01:23:31,215
what it is that they do.

579
01:23:32,035 --> 01:23:36,095
The point is, grants like this are to ensure

580
01:23:36,205 --> 01:23:39,775
that the money that was loaned for the project, the project

581
01:23:40,295 --> 01:23:43,415
continues and clearly Lincoln House has proven

582
01:23:43,525 --> 01:23:47,375
that they are continuing to operate Lincoln House as a,

583
01:23:47,995 --> 01:23:49,135
excuse me, a rest home.

584
01:23:50,235 --> 01:23:55,055
So we started the process two, almost two years ago of how

585
01:23:55,055 --> 01:23:57,335
to figure out how to get out of this.

586
01:23:57,595 --> 01:24:01,575
And what we do is you vote tonight,

587
01:24:01,575 --> 01:24:04,735
hopefully in the affirmative to start the process that we

588
01:24:06,185 --> 01:24:07,575
close the closure agreement.

589
01:24:08,855 --> 01:24:10,255
I work with the city attorneys

590
01:24:10,515 --> 01:24:13,335
and we get our paperwork and we close the loan.

591
01:24:15,845 --> 01:24:19,585
So that was really quick. Hopefully you read your memos.

592
01:24:20,965 --> 01:24:23,585
Any questions for Norm or Sarah or myself?

593
01:24:25,065 --> 01:24:26,195
Council there. Dustin,

594
01:24:26,355 --> 01:24:29,155
I just wanna clarify for anyone listening along at home

595
01:24:29,175 --> 01:24:32,955
and thinking the city is quote unquote giving away $600,000,

596
01:24:33,065 --> 01:24:34,515
that that is not the case.

597
01:24:34,775 --> 01:24:37,355
My understanding is this is a grant the city applied for,

598
01:24:37,975 --> 01:24:39,675
for the benefit of Lincoln House.

599
01:24:40,215 --> 01:24:41,755
And the money came through our hands

600
01:24:41,815 --> 01:24:43,555
but did not originate with the city.

601
01:24:43,655 --> 01:24:45,155
And that now we're sort of just closed

602
01:24:45,155 --> 01:24:46,355
putting a bow on the whole thing.

603
01:24:46,505 --> 01:24:48,235
That is correct. Thank you. Yes.

604
01:24:48,815 --> 01:24:51,075
Are they at capacity in Lincoln House

605
01:24:51,175 --> 01:24:52,755
or do you have vacancy? We

606
01:24:52,755 --> 01:24:54,395
Have a few vacancies, but that was related

607
01:24:54,395 --> 01:24:56,035
to people passing over the last,

608
01:24:56,255 --> 01:24:57,435
The bottom line, it's nonprofit.

609
01:24:57,585 --> 01:24:58,075
Correct.

610
01:24:59,075 --> 01:25:02,955
Okay. Anyone else?

611
01:25:03,805 --> 01:25:04,955
Councillor Swalley?

612
01:25:05,155 --> 01:25:08,515
I don't, I, I think this is, I mean I'm perfectly happy

613
01:25:08,535 --> 01:25:10,955
to do this and I think Lincoln House is a great addition

614
01:25:10,955 --> 01:25:12,875
to the community and so I appreciate that it's there

615
01:25:12,935 --> 01:25:14,995
for people who wanna stay in Berry City.

616
01:25:15,595 --> 01:25:16,875
I love seeing people walking

617
01:25:17,055 --> 01:25:18,955
and now you have even more sidewalk to walk on

618
01:25:18,955 --> 01:25:20,635
because we just added a new sidewalk.

619
01:25:21,935 --> 01:25:24,075
But yeah, I drive by there every single day

620
01:25:24,075 --> 01:25:26,315
and it's great having it as part of our neighborhood.

621
01:25:27,945 --> 01:25:29,585
I think with Councilor Guston's comment,

622
01:25:29,585 --> 01:25:31,545
really making sure that the community is clear

623
01:25:31,545 --> 01:25:33,785
that this is not $600,000

624
01:25:33,785 --> 01:25:35,385
that's coming out of Barry City's pocket.

625
01:25:35,965 --> 01:25:39,665
But this is a grant that essentially is being forgiven.

626
01:25:40,335 --> 01:25:43,025
Yeah. It's a typical pass through grant that the city does

627
01:25:43,135 --> 01:25:45,305
with all these other F folks and entities.

628
01:25:45,485 --> 01:25:46,865
And this was a pass through.

629
01:25:46,865 --> 01:25:48,465
Wonderful. And I just want

630
01:25:48,465 --> 01:25:49,705
to make sure that we're all clear.

631
01:25:50,185 --> 01:25:53,105
'cause we don't want that misconception that this, you know,

632
01:25:53,105 --> 01:25:55,345
the city's giving away $600,000.

633
01:25:56,805 --> 01:25:58,745
So with that, I'm looking for a motion.

634
01:25:59,445 --> 01:26:01,225
So moved Second. Okay.

635
01:26:01,325 --> 01:26:03,785
Any discussion? Okay.

636
01:26:04,645 --> 01:26:07,785
So all is in favor of approving the motion as presented.

637
01:26:07,785 --> 01:26:12,385
Please say aye. Aye. Aye. The opposed approved.

638
01:26:12,675 --> 01:26:14,785
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

639
01:26:21,455 --> 01:26:23,075
All right. Next up Mr. Baker,

640
01:26:23,095 --> 01:26:26,035
update on the Civic Center Auditorium renovation project.

641
01:26:28,345 --> 01:26:30,245
Mr. Baker, welcome this evening, sir

642
01:26:32,995 --> 01:26:34,265
Janet, welcome again.

643
01:26:36,085 --> 01:26:41,015
Alright, where do we start?

644
01:26:41,945 --> 01:26:45,655
We'll start with the MERP grants that you have the contracts

645
01:26:45,655 --> 01:26:49,295
for with Janet's help.

646
01:26:49,295 --> 01:26:53,685
We worked on this last week, so we need

647
01:26:53,685 --> 01:26:55,365
to get the contracts in place

648
01:26:55,985 --> 01:26:58,965
before the end of the month to secure the money.

649
01:27:00,115 --> 01:27:01,615
And we have to complete this

650
01:27:07,225 --> 01:27:07,755
city hall.

651
01:27:07,755 --> 01:27:12,675
Thank you. That city hall work before the end of the year.

652
01:27:14,815 --> 01:27:18,395
The auditorium work will then be able to be pushed off on

653
01:27:18,895 --> 01:27:21,315
and be done with the specifics, the

654
01:27:21,915 --> 01:27:24,675
congressional spending work.

655
01:27:25,295 --> 01:27:26,995
So all that work will be done at one time.

656
01:27:28,495 --> 01:27:32,075
But with these grant, these contracts signed

657
01:27:33,165 --> 01:27:35,835
where the funding is all secured

658
01:27:36,295 --> 01:27:37,295
For the merp.

659
01:27:37,705 --> 01:27:41,035
Okay. The congressional grant, we have until 29.

660
01:27:42,295 --> 01:27:44,585
That one is not, there's no danger on that.

661
01:27:44,845 --> 01:27:46,545
Is the USDA signed off yet?

662
01:27:47,185 --> 01:27:49,825
USD we, we have been

663
01:27:50,735 --> 01:27:53,665
tied up getting the contracts this last week.

664
01:27:53,805 --> 01:27:56,705
We need to get them, I believe, three answers

665
01:27:57,905 --> 01:28:00,165
and most of that's just wording changes.

666
01:28:01,025 --> 01:28:04,285
So we'll get that to 'em probably this week, hopefully.

667
01:28:05,705 --> 01:28:08,165
And then we wait for their, their approval.

668
01:28:08,855 --> 01:28:11,235
So now we're at 10 weeks basically Correct.

669
01:28:13,595 --> 01:28:16,585
Since we, we, we originally sent it

670
01:28:16,585 --> 01:28:18,825
to 'em on the 28th of June.

671
01:28:18,975 --> 01:28:23,785
This is Andrea 30 days to respond

672
01:28:23,925 --> 01:28:28,425
and they let use it as, or that they're down to.

673
01:28:28,455 --> 01:28:33,035
Well again, I mean if we can make sure we have the grants.

674
01:28:33,435 --> 01:28:34,995
I guess that's on our side there.

675
01:28:35,375 --> 01:28:37,715
But yeah, we need that first. Agreed.

676
01:28:40,085 --> 01:28:42,975
Yeah. Went through two government shutdowns. Yeah.

677
01:28:43,515 --> 01:28:45,615
So everything came to screeching.

678
01:28:46,155 --> 01:28:47,295
Oh it's just, I mean

679
01:28:47,295 --> 01:28:50,935
that's our most important revenue place to God and the BOR.

680
01:28:52,165 --> 01:28:55,605
But it is what it is, right. What it is.

681
01:28:57,905 --> 01:29:01,085
So the city hall work came in at

682
01:29:01,125 --> 01:29:04,965
3013 337.

683
01:29:06,715 --> 01:29:08,655
The grant, the Merck grant for that

684
01:29:08,755 --> 01:29:12,855
for this portion is 238,182,

685
01:29:14,065 --> 01:29:16,995
leaving 75,155

686
01:29:18,485 --> 01:29:21,785
to be covered from the $80,000 of fund balance

687
01:29:22,415 --> 01:29:26,895
that you approved on June 6th or June 2nd.

688
01:29:26,895 --> 01:29:30,735
Excuse me. That work is the

689
01:29:31,305 --> 01:29:32,535
insulating of the attic.

690
01:29:33,325 --> 01:29:36,345
The sash replacements on the, basically the south side

691
01:29:36,345 --> 01:29:39,065
of the building and weather stripping of the doors

692
01:29:39,405 --> 01:29:44,385
and ceiling of the, there is a six week lead

693
01:29:44,385 --> 01:29:48,125
time for the, for the window sash units.

694
01:29:50,325 --> 01:29:53,225
And this, the whole thing is to be completed

695
01:29:53,225 --> 01:29:54,705
by December 18th.

696
01:29:56,215 --> 01:29:59,995
Give us a two weeks to make sure all the

697
01:30:00,975 --> 01:30:02,435
T's are crossed and the i's are dotted.

698
01:30:03,045 --> 01:30:04,545
You said this needs to be completed

699
01:30:04,545 --> 01:30:05,665
by the end of December, correct?

700
01:30:05,925 --> 01:30:09,185
Yes. Substantially complete by 1218.

701
01:30:09,945 --> 01:30:11,625
Thoroughly complete by 1231

702
01:30:14,045 --> 01:30:15,135
Council Gson,

703
01:30:15,675 --> 01:30:17,895
And maybe I'm jumping ahead and apologies if so,

704
01:30:17,955 --> 01:30:21,935
but Merp work, MERP work is underway

705
01:30:22,155 --> 01:30:23,535
and you've given us the dates on that.

706
01:30:24,355 --> 01:30:28,015
The CDS, the ongoing CDS work you'll pick up again in the

707
01:30:28,015 --> 01:30:30,655
spring, presuming USDA gets it this winter.

708
01:30:30,955 --> 01:30:32,015
So with that in mind,

709
01:30:32,155 --> 01:30:33,975
are we looking at more auditorium

710
01:30:34,175 --> 01:30:36,575
closures at some point in the spring?

711
01:30:37,595 --> 01:30:42,545
Yes, we will. But this year we blocked it

712
01:30:42,545 --> 01:30:43,945
off in anticipation.

713
01:30:44,525 --> 01:30:46,825
Now we're gonna have a set schedule.

714
01:30:46,885 --> 01:30:48,985
So it'll be from this date to this date.

715
01:30:50,455 --> 01:30:51,955
And do you have a sense of like

716
01:30:52,495 --> 01:30:53,675
six weeks, eight weeks, 10,

717
01:30:55,055 --> 01:30:58,375
The last schedule I saw was the

718
01:30:58,375 --> 01:30:59,455
90 day construction period.

719
01:31:03,285 --> 01:31:05,785
Based on the amount of work they're gonna be doing,

720
01:31:05,785 --> 01:31:07,585
there's gonna be, yeah.

721
01:31:07,825 --> 01:31:11,105
A lot of people working at this Swiss falling

722
01:31:11,105 --> 01:31:12,545
That's on paper, Remember?

723
01:31:12,895 --> 01:31:17,305
Yeah. I'll be able to hear it from my house. So I'll know.

724
01:31:18,935 --> 01:31:22,185
Does this mean that the auditorium is opening back up?

725
01:31:22,565 --> 01:31:23,625
Yes, as of

726
01:31:24,695 --> 01:31:25,695
October 5th.

727
01:31:25,895 --> 01:31:30,165
Okay. Tell Michelle,

728
01:31:30,485 --> 01:31:31,805
Michelle is on vacation this week.

729
01:31:32,475 --> 01:31:34,205
I've, we've had discussions last week.

730
01:31:35,255 --> 01:31:37,705
Next week she's gonna start reaching out to some of these

731
01:31:38,255 --> 01:31:41,065
renters that we pushed back, pushed off

732
01:31:41,905 --> 01:31:44,165
to give them the first shot at the times.

733
01:31:46,145 --> 01:31:49,445
So we'll be open back up for business on the fifth.

734
01:31:50,625 --> 01:31:51,925
And that will be for the entirety

735
01:31:51,945 --> 01:31:53,125
of the basketball season.

736
01:31:53,745 --> 01:31:58,195
Be from October 5th to probably April 1st. Okay.

737
01:31:58,195 --> 01:32:00,175
Give as, as soon as the trappers

738
01:32:01,045 --> 01:32:02,045
Yep.

739
01:32:02,135 --> 01:32:05,345
Done will be switching back into Con construction.

740
01:32:05,695 --> 01:32:09,305
Okay. And then based on that timeframe, we should be done

741
01:32:09,445 --> 01:32:10,665
by August?

742
01:32:11,215 --> 01:32:16,175
Yeah. Yeah. Ish Mid mid, mid to early August. Okay.

743
01:32:16,185 --> 01:32:17,255
Again, depending on

744
01:32:18,115 --> 01:32:19,525
Sure. The unknowns,

745
01:32:20,505 --> 01:32:25,495
The plan is to start ordering parts in like

746
01:32:26,415 --> 01:32:29,935
February or March to make sure they're here for April.

747
01:32:30,595 --> 01:32:33,415
May of April. So we should not have any delays on waiting

748
01:32:33,415 --> 01:32:35,615
for equipment to Right.

749
01:32:36,025 --> 01:32:37,655
Parts show up. And

750
01:32:38,135 --> 01:32:40,575
I know we had talked previously about where we're going

751
01:32:40,575 --> 01:32:42,895
to store that material potentially

752
01:32:43,515 --> 01:32:46,295
and not wanting to store it over at the garage.

753
01:32:47,375 --> 01:32:49,975
'cause things potentially could not be there when

754
01:32:49,975 --> 01:32:50,975
They're not.

755
01:32:50,975 --> 01:32:54,645
That's why we're gonna order it in February and March

756
01:32:55,225 --> 01:32:57,125
and then we'll just have it delivered right to the site.

757
01:32:57,355 --> 01:32:59,405
Okay. Yeah, because I believe we were talking the,

758
01:32:59,565 --> 01:33:01,725
the boilers will have like a six week lead time.

759
01:33:02,705 --> 01:33:05,605
So some of the MA bigger items have significant lead times

760
01:33:05,605 --> 01:33:07,565
that they won't, when we're ordering in February,

761
01:33:07,565 --> 01:33:08,725
they're not gonna be there.

762
01:33:08,815 --> 01:33:10,765
Right. Be by the time they're gonna be needed.

763
01:33:11,035 --> 01:33:13,125
Sure. But does the price get locked in now

764
01:33:13,145 --> 01:33:17,005
or We gotta, that'll depend when we get the, get the bids,

765
01:33:17,005 --> 01:33:18,285
we can place the orders

766
01:33:18,385 --> 01:33:21,645
and there has been work going on just so the public knows

767
01:33:21,645 --> 01:33:23,205
that we have been doing things in there.

768
01:33:23,205 --> 01:33:25,525
That doesn't take the USDA approval, correct?

769
01:33:26,345 --> 01:33:29,555
Well I, to a certain extent, I guess I'm trying to,

770
01:33:29,585 --> 01:33:32,035
well we've, we've had the building closed for

771
01:33:33,095 --> 01:33:36,805
six months now, which we haven't done anything anticipating.

772
01:33:36,825 --> 01:33:40,875
We were able to talked

773
01:33:40,875 --> 01:33:44,235
with New England Air last week about the possibility of

774
01:33:45,045 --> 01:33:47,055
getting that second boiler repaired.

775
01:33:48,435 --> 01:33:49,735
So right now there's, there's,

776
01:33:49,735 --> 01:33:51,095
there's two boiler boilers in there

777
01:33:51,095 --> 01:33:53,375
and this, we met, Tom was explaining to me earlier,

778
01:33:53,605 --> 01:33:56,055
there's two boilers feeding that building

779
01:33:56,235 --> 01:33:57,415
to do the heat right's.

780
01:33:57,415 --> 01:33:59,975
Heat the heat. Currently only one of them is functional,

781
01:34:00,305 --> 01:34:02,495
which was, it's been like that for a few years

782
01:34:02,875 --> 01:34:04,375
At least. At least three.

783
01:34:04,955 --> 01:34:06,455
And it's been kind of being used as a

784
01:34:06,805 --> 01:34:07,855
That when I got here. So

785
01:34:07,855 --> 01:34:09,215
Yeah, it's being used as a little parts

786
01:34:09,775 --> 01:34:10,855
'cause they're, they're the same so.

787
01:34:10,865 --> 01:34:13,335
Right, right. Right. You said it's great when something

788
01:34:13,335 --> 01:34:14,975
breaks, we can switch it over.

789
01:34:15,595 --> 01:34:19,015
The issue is you have no redundancy.

790
01:34:19,435 --> 01:34:21,295
So if, if that boiler goes out

791
01:34:21,315 --> 01:34:23,255
and there's, you know, we have to order PA piece

792
01:34:23,255 --> 01:34:24,535
and there's a lead time of a week

793
01:34:24,535 --> 01:34:26,615
or so on that, that building would have to be

794
01:34:27,685 --> 01:34:29,095
basically drained all liquids.

795
01:34:29,695 --> 01:34:30,655
'cause they, otherwise they'll freeze up

796
01:34:30,715 --> 01:34:31,495
if it's in the winter.

797
01:34:31,815 --> 01:34:33,095
Temporary heat or temporary heat

798
01:34:33,095 --> 01:34:34,455
units or bring in temporary,

799
01:34:34,655 --> 01:34:37,095
I guess what I meant, was there any basic construction

800
01:34:37,095 --> 01:34:40,495
that could be still done in the meantime without

801
01:34:40,755 --> 01:34:41,895
the main contract?

802
01:34:42,015 --> 01:34:43,495
I, I mean I don't know the whole scope

803
01:34:43,555 --> 01:34:47,935
of everything when I window insulation, insulation USDA

804
01:34:49,625 --> 01:34:50,815
until they approve it.

805
01:34:51,045 --> 01:34:52,615
Nothing. Nothing.

806
01:34:52,895 --> 01:34:55,615
'cause we run the risk of losing all the funds. Oh, I hear.

807
01:34:55,615 --> 01:34:59,645
Yeah. Okay. So if we, when we get approval

808
01:35:01,805 --> 01:35:05,005
we could start as soon as we want as long

809
01:35:05,005 --> 01:35:07,565
as it doesn't affect the building.

810
01:35:07,565 --> 01:35:09,405
We're looking about four weeks at at

811
01:35:09,405 --> 01:35:11,085
the, at the most to even.

812
01:35:11,195 --> 01:35:15,685
Yeah. So they're gonna get me a price on getting that,

813
01:35:16,465 --> 01:35:19,335
try to get that second boiler up and running.

814
01:35:20,365 --> 01:35:23,765
'cause we're dancing with the devil. That'd be, yeah. Yeah.

815
01:35:25,045 --> 01:35:27,605
Hmm. So provided that this gets, you know,

816
01:35:27,605 --> 01:35:30,285
say we get approval from USDA, I know we're trying

817
01:35:30,285 --> 01:35:34,085
to push the project out until next summer, next spring,

818
01:35:34,095 --> 01:35:36,725
we'll say are there parts of the project

819
01:35:36,795 --> 01:35:39,045
that a few SDA approves that we could,

820
01:35:39,045 --> 01:35:40,885
like Councilor Ruthie is saying

821
01:35:41,425 --> 01:35:43,685
do in the meantime while we still have the building

822
01:35:43,685 --> 01:35:46,405
operational So we could potentially cut down? We could,

823
01:35:46,665 --> 01:35:47,665
We could.

824
01:35:47,665 --> 01:35:50,685
But the longer we extend the construction period,

825
01:35:51,625 --> 01:35:54,325
the longer we have to pay the clerk of the works

826
01:35:54,395 --> 01:35:56,645
that is required by the USDA.

827
01:35:56,695 --> 01:36:01,105
Right. So to keep the money, keep

828
01:36:01,105 --> 01:36:02,385
that construction period short.

829
01:36:02,565 --> 01:36:06,215
Yep. Sure. They charge us every hour they're here.

830
01:36:06,675 --> 01:36:08,135
All the mileage it takes to get here.

831
01:36:08,875 --> 01:36:12,855
And if we're, we can do some work like the light fixtures,

832
01:36:12,875 --> 01:36:14,135
we could change the light fixtures.

833
01:36:14,135 --> 01:36:16,855
Right. That's very non-intrusive,

834
01:36:18,355 --> 01:36:22,155
but it's paid for by the congressional spending.

835
01:36:22,375 --> 01:36:23,755
The clerk of the works has to be here

836
01:36:23,755 --> 01:36:28,285
so it's gonna cost us extra super and Sure.

837
01:36:28,645 --> 01:36:29,685
Construction co. I understand

838
01:36:29,685 --> 01:36:32,845
That makes sense to just do it at one one point

839
01:36:32,845 --> 01:36:35,645
of time instead of over different periods of time

840
01:36:35,645 --> 01:36:36,965
and then having it cost more

841
01:36:36,965 --> 01:36:39,645
for the clerk of the works to come in. Yeah. It's just,

842
01:36:39,945 --> 01:36:42,865
Hey, keep it as short as possible.

843
01:36:42,865 --> 01:36:44,425
Yep. Just being a better steward of the money.

844
01:36:44,835 --> 01:36:46,185
Appreciate that. Absolutely.

845
01:36:46,365 --> 01:36:48,465
And just To remind you guys on what they're kind

846
01:36:48,465 --> 01:36:51,425
of focusing on, it's a lot of, it's, it's efficiency,

847
01:36:51,455 --> 01:36:53,225
it's heat, so they're doing heating, cooling,

848
01:36:53,255 --> 01:36:56,705
some a DA bathrooms, a fuse box upgrades.

849
01:36:57,145 --> 01:37:01,325
There's gonna be a lot of upgrades to it that you,

850
01:37:01,435 --> 01:37:03,285
besides the additions of the bathrooms,

851
01:37:03,795 --> 01:37:05,485
that it'll look similar,

852
01:37:06,065 --> 01:37:08,005
but it's gonna be functioning at a much higher efficiency

853
01:37:08,005 --> 01:37:11,685
level and, and hopefully not sweating everyone out when you

854
01:37:11,685 --> 01:37:14,325
got, you know, 1800 people in there for basketball finals.

855
01:37:14,325 --> 01:37:15,325
And so,

856
01:37:16,495 --> 01:37:19,555
So I have a question about when we discussed this,

857
01:37:19,935 --> 01:37:21,715
we cut out the locker rooms.

858
01:37:22,095 --> 01:37:25,475
Yes. And you said you were going to do a little asking

859
01:37:25,475 --> 01:37:27,035
around to see if we could raise money

860
01:37:27,035 --> 01:37:28,795
to get the locker rooms added back in.

861
01:37:28,835 --> 01:37:31,755
Because I've had conversations with people who say that

862
01:37:31,755 --> 01:37:34,595
that was actually really a crucial part of the project

863
01:37:35,095 --> 01:37:37,235
to get more of the VPA events.

864
01:37:37,405 --> 01:37:41,395
Right. So how, how can we all work together to try

865
01:37:41,395 --> 01:37:42,915
to maybe add that back into the project

866
01:37:42,975 --> 01:37:44,315
so it can be done at the same time?

867
01:37:46,375 --> 01:37:49,995
You know, we'd have to do fundraising, whether it be

868
01:37:50,565 --> 01:37:51,875
50 50 raffles

869
01:37:52,175 --> 01:37:55,525
or you know, going out to merchants and asking for money.

870
01:37:56,275 --> 01:37:58,485
It's, it's a big item. Yeah. It's, it's a,

871
01:37:58,995 --> 01:38:01,325
They had a $700,000 price tag.

872
01:38:01,575 --> 01:38:04,805
Right. But I, but when, when you look at the reason,

873
01:38:05,345 --> 01:38:08,125
the way that I've understood this is part of the reason

874
01:38:08,125 --> 01:38:11,645
for the project was to do those locker rooms so

875
01:38:11,645 --> 01:38:13,165
that we could get more BPA events.

876
01:38:13,465 --> 01:38:15,285
That's the way that it's been explained to me.

877
01:38:15,705 --> 01:38:18,245
And so for us to just strip it out isn't

878
01:38:18,245 --> 01:38:19,845
necessarily in our best interest.

879
01:38:19,905 --> 01:38:21,285
And I understand we have

880
01:38:21,285 --> 01:38:22,965
to make decisions, we have to make choices.

881
01:38:23,465 --> 01:38:25,125
That's why I'm saying how can we

882
01:38:25,675 --> 01:38:29,005
potentially raise some money to try to include that as part

883
01:38:29,005 --> 01:38:30,005
of the project if we're already

884
01:38:30,005 --> 01:38:30,925
gonna shut the building down.

885
01:38:30,945 --> 01:38:32,325
If we're already going to

886
01:38:33,245 --> 01:38:36,735
I So I'm just, I'm just putting it out there

887
01:38:36,735 --> 01:38:40,295
to see if there's a way that we can try to do something

888
01:38:41,465 --> 01:38:42,715
Significant number.

889
01:38:42,985 --> 01:38:47,715
Yeah. It is the plan currently

890
01:38:47,715 --> 01:38:50,235
with the USDA include the locker rooms? No.

891
01:38:50,635 --> 01:38:52,195
'cause we stripped so We cut

892
01:38:52,315 --> 01:38:55,755
because of budgetary considerations. Yes,

893
01:38:55,755 --> 01:38:56,755
Totally understand That.

894
01:38:56,755 --> 01:39:00,165
That there's a section with a big number

895
01:39:01,485 --> 01:39:06,095
that if we decide to do it later can be closed off

896
01:39:06,875 --> 01:39:09,495
and done while the rest of the building is still open.

897
01:39:10,035 --> 01:39:12,735
Got it. We can do a separate project with,

898
01:39:12,965 --> 01:39:14,655
with just the locker rooms closed off

899
01:39:14,655 --> 01:39:16,055
because they can come in the back doors.

900
01:39:16,905 --> 01:39:18,525
We can keep the, the gym

901
01:39:18,545 --> 01:39:22,505
and the exhibition hall in the front of the house all open

902
01:39:24,175 --> 01:39:28,275
and we can do that at a later date. So it's

903
01:39:28,275 --> 01:39:30,275
Still very much got to be a future project.

904
01:39:30,515 --> 01:39:32,515
'cause no one wants to start at the starting line again.

905
01:39:33,385 --> 01:39:35,435
Even if we have an infusion of cash that could,

906
01:39:35,455 --> 01:39:37,635
We have, we still have the drawings Yeah.

907
01:39:38,595 --> 01:39:41,125
Drawing. So we do have and an estimate.

908
01:39:41,125 --> 01:39:42,485
So we have a starting point

909
01:39:43,875 --> 01:39:47,295
and right now it's just getting the funding

910
01:39:47,355 --> 01:39:50,215
and then try to get back, get back to

911
01:39:51,295 --> 01:39:52,825
fitting it into the schedule.

912
01:39:55,115 --> 01:39:58,015
My recommendation is, it'd be nice if we could do it all at

913
01:39:58,015 --> 01:40:01,335
the same time, but then it may look at

914
01:40:02,875 --> 01:40:03,915
starting the approval process

915
01:40:04,905 --> 01:40:06,355
because you're adding to the project.

916
01:40:06,525 --> 01:40:08,235
Right. So

917
01:40:09,075 --> 01:40:11,235
Maybe we just need to raise it separately and do it

918
01:40:12,505 --> 01:40:13,575
Right Separately.

919
01:40:13,645 --> 01:40:14,695
Council Bergstrom,

920
01:40:16,115 --> 01:40:19,335
My my biggest concern is the, the boiler situation,

921
01:40:21,355 --> 01:40:24,175
the one that's sitting, if you walk into the room

922
01:40:24,555 --> 01:40:26,495
and you're standing on the back of them, the ones

923
01:40:26,495 --> 01:40:30,175
to the left, one that's been stripped out is, is no good.

924
01:40:30,175 --> 01:40:32,735
There's nothing left to that thing that we could even use.

925
01:40:33,955 --> 01:40:35,615
And the one that's that's running

926
01:40:36,395 --> 01:40:38,455
is running on three broken legs.

927
01:40:39,755 --> 01:40:43,735
The, my understanding is it the, the one that is down

928
01:40:44,475 --> 01:40:47,895
had a leak in the water jacket. From my understanding,

929
01:40:48,375 --> 01:40:49,775
I think the fins are all blown in it.

930
01:40:50,275 --> 01:40:51,855
In the one that stripped out. Yeah.

931
01:40:52,055 --> 01:40:55,165
I don't, they they took the burner motor off of

932
01:40:55,165 --> 01:40:56,845
that one last, last winter.

933
01:40:56,865 --> 01:40:59,005
And that's the only part that's really missing right now.

934
01:40:59,795 --> 01:41:02,605
There's, like I said, no, only air's gonna get me a price

935
01:41:03,885 --> 01:41:06,065
to see about if we can fix it.

936
01:41:06,345 --> 01:41:08,855
I don't know if, if you're saying the,

937
01:41:09,035 --> 01:41:10,175
the fins are blown out

938
01:41:10,395 --> 01:41:12,655
and you've got more information than I do.

939
01:41:13,215 --> 01:41:15,095
I think that's what, because you were there, Chris, the,

940
01:41:15,095 --> 01:41:18,335
the guy that works on it said it was that one was dead shot.

941
01:41:19,735 --> 01:41:22,375
I don't know if we, what we have left in a

942
01:41:22,375 --> 01:41:23,575
capital improvement plan

943
01:41:24,115 --> 01:41:28,095
Cap, the civic center improvement fund, we set aside

944
01:41:28,875 --> 01:41:32,445
the whole $266,000 for this project.

945
01:41:33,805 --> 01:41:35,325
I don't, I'm not talking about the civics,

946
01:41:35,385 --> 01:41:36,405
the civic center, the capital.

947
01:41:36,505 --> 01:41:38,965
I'm talking about c the city's capital improvement plan.

948
01:41:41,325 --> 01:41:42,865
You lose that boiler, you're done.

949
01:41:43,375 --> 01:41:44,745
There's gonna be nothing in there.

950
01:41:46,325 --> 01:41:50,105
And I think the, you know, maybe once you get settled in,

951
01:41:50,205 --> 01:41:53,945
we can sit down and look at the city's capital improvement

952
01:41:53,945 --> 01:41:55,185
plan and see if there's somewhere

953
01:41:55,685 --> 01:41:56,905
in there that we can take money.

954
01:41:56,905 --> 01:42:00,665
Because if that boiler goes, we're done. Yeah.

955
01:42:00,795 --> 01:42:02,785
We're dead in no water. There'll be no revenue

956
01:42:06,305 --> 01:42:07,955
That, I just wanna make sure I understand this.

957
01:42:07,955 --> 01:42:09,755
That's the situation we're already in, right?

958
01:42:10,015 --> 01:42:11,275
Yes, yes, yes. We've

959
01:42:11,315 --> 01:42:13,075
Been in, so our, so our risk is not going

960
01:42:13,075 --> 01:42:16,235
to appreciably increase over the winter as, as dire as

961
01:42:16,235 --> 01:42:18,315
that risk is, which I fully, fully grant,

962
01:42:19,025 --> 01:42:21,075
it's not gonna appreciably increase between now

963
01:42:21,075 --> 01:42:22,755
and when we increase the boilers and

964
01:42:23,025 --> 01:42:24,435
Started using it. We keep,

965
01:42:24,615 --> 01:42:25,635
We keep knocking on wood

966
01:42:25,635 --> 01:42:26,755
but we've been limping along this

967
01:42:26,755 --> 01:42:27,875
way for a couple of years now

968
01:42:28,655 --> 01:42:30,315
We three as far as I know.

969
01:42:30,425 --> 01:42:34,515
Yeah. So it's, the risk would increase only as much

970
01:42:34,655 --> 01:42:37,955
as the use usage, normal usage of the system. Okay.

971
01:42:38,575 --> 01:42:40,515
We, we had that happen here. How,

972
01:42:40,535 --> 01:42:41,795
How old Didn't we Steve,

973
01:42:42,295 --> 01:42:43,795
Do you know how old that boiler is?

974
01:42:44,645 --> 01:42:49,185
25 2 early two thousands I believe

975
01:42:49,595 --> 01:42:51,265
Early, very early two thousands. So

976
01:42:51,265 --> 01:42:54,745
So it is very likely near end. Yeah.

977
01:42:55,015 --> 01:42:56,865
There's a reason we do, there's a reason we're doing

978
01:42:57,045 --> 01:42:58,505
Object but again it is being replaced

979
01:42:59,045 --> 01:43:00,585
in the spring. That's the kind of kicker.

980
01:43:00,745 --> 01:43:02,665
I just wanted to clarify that as dyer

981
01:43:02,665 --> 01:43:03,825
as a situation is the risk,

982
01:43:03,885 --> 01:43:05,665
the risk has not like shot upwards.

983
01:43:05,665 --> 01:43:06,625
Correct? Correct. In recent

984
01:43:06,665 --> 01:43:07,985
period it's going to continue. Take

985
01:43:07,985 --> 01:43:09,825
70 degrees all winter. We're all we're

986
01:43:09,825 --> 01:43:10,825
Golden.

987
01:43:10,825 --> 01:43:11,865
Yeah. Warm winter.

988
01:43:13,125 --> 01:43:15,225
It is supposed to be something El Nino, I don't know.

989
01:43:15,225 --> 01:43:16,185
It's supposed to be warmer than

990
01:43:16,185 --> 01:43:17,665
last year from what I've seen. Yeah.

991
01:43:18,225 --> 01:43:20,305
Anything's gotta be warmer than last year. Brutal.

992
01:43:22,665 --> 01:43:25,205
Mr. Baker, with the upgrades

993
01:43:25,325 --> 01:43:29,165
that are gonna go into the odd with efficiencies,

994
01:43:29,705 --> 01:43:30,885
how much money do you think

995
01:43:30,885 --> 01:43:33,085
that we're gonna end up saving on things like fuel

996
01:43:33,135 --> 01:43:35,445
efficiency, heating, the building and such?

997
01:43:37,225 --> 01:43:39,585
I don't know. Just Any bulk. Yeah,

998
01:43:39,625 --> 01:43:40,665
I, yeah, I don't have enough.

999
01:43:40,735 --> 01:43:42,305
Okay. I just figured I'd ask.

1000
01:43:42,565 --> 01:43:43,825
We we will be saving

1001
01:43:45,415 --> 01:43:48,025
significant electricity switching from the

1002
01:43:48,635 --> 01:43:51,065
metal haylight bulbs to LEDs.

1003
01:43:52,065 --> 01:43:54,725
The exact amount. I don't know. It's okay.

1004
01:43:55,305 --> 01:43:57,845
It just be nice 'cause the bathrooms in the locker room

1005
01:43:57,935 --> 01:43:59,045
still need upgraded.

1006
01:44:00,585 --> 01:44:03,525
The new the bathrooms will be upgraded. We'll be get Okay.

1007
01:44:04,325 --> 01:44:07,005
Existing bathrooms will be getting new fixtures and finishes

1008
01:44:07,005 --> 01:44:11,165
and they get to old five foot urinals for those.

1009
01:44:11,165 --> 01:44:13,245
Those are, those are my understandings.

1010
01:44:13,245 --> 01:44:16,565
They'll go away because they're no longer up to code. Yeah.

1011
01:44:17,705 --> 01:44:19,005
Mr. Manager, did you wanna say something?

1012
01:44:19,005 --> 01:44:21,485
But it's a gorgeous building just right.

1013
01:44:22,425 --> 01:44:23,605
Anyone else shine it up?

1014
01:44:25,975 --> 01:44:27,995
Do we need to approve something as part of this

1015
01:44:28,305 --> 01:44:29,305
Item?

1016
01:44:29,995 --> 01:44:31,235
The contract? The contract

1017
01:44:31,395 --> 01:44:32,395
Contract?

1018
01:44:32,395 --> 01:44:33,555
Those and the contracts are strictly

1019
01:44:33,695 --> 01:44:35,755
for the municipal energy money.

1020
01:44:36,665 --> 01:44:40,075
Once we get the Sanders money, Tom will come back

1021
01:44:40,075 --> 01:44:43,395
with a contract for the auditorium for that portion.

1022
01:44:44,805 --> 01:44:48,435
Could what, what are the contracts? Just so I'm clear.

1023
01:44:48,715 --> 01:44:52,795
I see an a IE contract in my, in here. I'm sorry.

1024
01:44:53,115 --> 01:44:55,915
A-I-A-I-A-A com contract.

1025
01:44:56,255 --> 01:44:57,515
And then what's, there's another one

1026
01:44:57,645 --> 01:44:58,645
There.

1027
01:44:58,645 --> 01:44:59,115
There should be two of them.

1028
01:45:00,185 --> 01:45:02,445
One is for the city hall work

1029
01:45:02,445 --> 01:45:04,905
and one is for the auditorium work that

1030
01:45:05,095 --> 01:45:06,505
They have the same number on them,

1031
01:45:06,605 --> 01:45:07,625
but they're, they're different.

1032
01:45:07,685 --> 01:45:08,685
Two different ones.

1033
01:45:09,695 --> 01:45:13,545
This one is, Is it all in the same document?

1034
01:45:13,935 --> 01:45:15,225
Alberta sent it out later

1035
01:45:15,285 --> 01:45:16,285
On.

1036
01:45:16,285 --> 01:45:16,945
Yeah, no, there, there's two emails.

1037
01:45:17,405 --> 01:45:18,545
So this, this one's Maine

1038
01:45:18,545 --> 01:45:19,545
O'clock this morning.

1039
01:45:23,395 --> 01:45:26,725
Just to give you an update on that. On the, the odd that

1040
01:45:26,725 --> 01:45:29,005
One, sorry.

1041
01:45:31,815 --> 01:45:34,765
City hall for the MER grant, we're gonna be doing the,

1042
01:45:34,905 --> 01:45:38,085
the kit, the kitchen ventilation

1043
01:45:38,425 --> 01:45:41,975
and reorganization that

1044
01:45:42,585 --> 01:45:46,735
where came in at 310,147

1045
01:45:48,165 --> 01:45:49,385
and MER funding is

1046
01:45:50,635 --> 01:45:54,965
261 570, leaving four

1047
01:45:55,615 --> 01:45:57,325
8,577

1048
01:45:57,465 --> 01:46:00,205
to be cover covered from the civic center improvement funds.

1049
01:46:02,535 --> 01:46:05,515
And that works again should start in April.

1050
01:46:08,545 --> 01:46:10,225
If you look on the contracts, it's the, at the bottom

1051
01:46:10,225 --> 01:46:12,625
of the first page where it indicates which one

1052
01:46:14,735 --> 01:46:16,615
I can only find one contract. I'm sorry,

1053
01:46:16,715 --> 01:46:18,895
I'm Do you want me to, do you wanna look at a copy?

1054
01:46:19,975 --> 01:46:21,255
I I Oh no wait,

1055
01:46:21,495 --> 01:46:25,595
I think I have, yeah.

1056
01:46:25,665 --> 01:46:27,915
Okay, I see one. This one is for city hall. Sorry. Sorry.

1057
01:46:28,065 --> 01:46:32,785
Okay. Got it. Thank you.

1058
01:46:33,325 --> 01:46:34,325
Got it.

1059
01:46:37,915 --> 01:46:40,735
Tom, I think you told me an interesting part about that is

1060
01:46:41,395 --> 01:46:44,815
one of the architects on the odd,

1061
01:46:44,875 --> 01:46:46,055
the actually the original

1062
01:46:46,055 --> 01:46:47,255
architect that built that building.

1063
01:46:48,275 --> 01:46:49,685
Yes. A firm.

1064
01:46:51,225 --> 01:46:54,355
This Freeman French Freeman is the architectural firm

1065
01:46:54,355 --> 01:46:55,955
that designed the odd to start with.

1066
01:46:56,375 --> 01:46:59,995
So they should all of the O original drawings,

1067
01:47:01,055 --> 01:47:03,465
you know, we all the as-builts.

1068
01:47:04,015 --> 01:47:07,145
Cool. That's a NICE's. Nice. Is actually cool. Bonus nine.

1069
01:47:07,895 --> 01:47:08,985
Soon as you wanna come up

1070
01:47:08,985 --> 01:47:11,545
and say something, you gotta come up to the microphone.

1071
01:47:11,565 --> 01:47:13,385
Pop me up to the front. Yep. Thank you.

1072
01:47:13,695 --> 01:47:15,385
Otherwise the internet can't hear you.

1073
01:47:17,015 --> 01:47:18,995
Hi. Hi, I'm Sue.

1074
01:47:20,635 --> 01:47:24,515
I just wanted, because there was some discussion about kind

1075
01:47:24,535 --> 01:47:26,675
of moving on limping forward

1076
01:47:27,055 --> 01:47:31,955
and taking the risk of having a heating system that may

1077
01:47:31,955 --> 01:47:33,595
or may not make it through the year.

1078
01:47:34,595 --> 01:47:37,115
I just wanted Tom to make sure that he detailed

1079
01:47:37,505 --> 01:47:40,355
what the cost of a temporary heating system would be.

1080
01:47:41,355 --> 01:47:42,945
We're gonna, we'll be working on that.

1081
01:47:42,945 --> 01:47:45,305
We can bring it to the account while

1082
01:47:45,305 --> 01:47:46,425
we're working on the project.

1083
01:47:47,005 --> 01:47:50,955
One of the costs of continuing it this year would be

1084
01:47:51,235 --> 01:47:55,815
temporary heat and they came back at $50,000 a month.

1085
01:47:56,175 --> 01:48:01,145
A month, put a, put a temporary steam boiler outside

1086
01:48:01,805 --> 01:48:05,125
and plummet into the existing heating system.

1087
01:48:06,585 --> 01:48:08,465
I thought that detail was going to be important.

1088
01:48:08,995 --> 01:48:12,065
Since we have ongoing contracts and relationships

1089
01:48:12,565 --> 01:48:16,865
and we would probably stumble to try to respond

1090
01:48:16,865 --> 01:48:18,265
to those responsibilities.

1091
01:48:18,805 --> 01:48:22,865
We need to have clear eyes about what the real cost of

1092
01:48:23,375 --> 01:48:26,905
heating that building, keeping the building moving forward.

1093
01:48:27,005 --> 01:48:31,345
And also functional is, is very expensive. $50,000 a month

1094
01:48:32,825 --> 01:48:34,405
May you, may, is that

1095
01:48:35,035 --> 01:48:37,525
only if the boiler goes down or is that no matter what,

1096
01:48:37,865 --> 01:48:40,525
That's only if the boiler goes down.

1097
01:48:41,625 --> 01:48:42,725
No more risk. Yeah,

1098
01:48:42,725 --> 01:48:43,725
No, I know.

1099
01:48:43,725 --> 01:48:44,165
I

1100
01:48:44,555 --> 01:48:47,645
Time If we can't, if it goes down

1101
01:48:47,665 --> 01:48:51,605
and say there we can get the part the next day or two days.

1102
01:48:52,635 --> 01:48:54,405
It's not, that building's big enough,

1103
01:48:54,405 --> 01:48:56,085
it has enough residual heat in it that

1104
01:48:56,665 --> 01:49:00,965
we should not be afraid of freezing anything up if,

1105
01:49:01,305 --> 01:49:04,205
if it goes down and it's out weeks

1106
01:49:04,305 --> 01:49:08,735
or that the temporary boiler is the best

1107
01:49:09,605 --> 01:49:12,385
long-term fix.

1108
01:49:12,725 --> 01:49:14,865
So say it blows the water jacket,

1109
01:49:16,105 --> 01:49:17,285
that's what we would have to do.

1110
01:49:18,475 --> 01:49:21,735
If it, if it's say two weeks out for the part,

1111
01:49:22,405 --> 01:49:26,105
we could probably go in with some temporary propane heaters,

1112
01:49:26,685 --> 01:49:27,705
the build in from freezing.

1113
01:49:28,715 --> 01:49:31,375
We probably wouldn't be able to operate during that period

1114
01:49:31,375 --> 01:49:34,895
because of the heat is located in one location

1115
01:49:35,665 --> 01:49:38,205
and that'd be extremely warm parts of the building.

1116
01:49:38,205 --> 01:49:39,485
Extremely cold parts of the building.

1117
01:49:40,595 --> 01:49:42,575
But the build will, it's there just

1118
01:49:42,575 --> 01:49:43,735
to keep the building from freezing.

1119
01:49:45,585 --> 01:49:46,865
A follow up question. Can I see

1120
01:49:46,885 --> 01:49:48,045
the architectural drawings?

1121
01:49:49,485 --> 01:49:51,525
I would love to look at the architectural drawings.

1122
01:49:52,925 --> 01:49:55,885
I don't know. That's some course you would.

1123
01:49:56,355 --> 01:50:00,965
Yeah, I actually, I think it would be really neat

1124
01:50:00,965 --> 01:50:03,765
to have some kind of like a

1125
01:50:04,435 --> 01:50:07,125
imagine a display or a

1126
01:50:08,525 --> 01:50:10,045
Speaking to my, I sing my song.

1127
01:50:10,145 --> 01:50:14,165
Yes. Right. A thought. Here's a, here's a fundraising idea.

1128
01:50:14,345 --> 01:50:17,845
We could, if the, if the architectural firm was willing,

1129
01:50:18,025 --> 01:50:19,445
we could produce some of those

1130
01:50:19,505 --> 01:50:21,405
and sell them to people as a fundraiser.

1131
01:50:21,585 --> 01:50:24,885
Had a heartbeat. Fundraiser had a lot of money.

1132
01:50:25,035 --> 01:50:27,325
They are, they are really blueprints.

1133
01:50:27,325 --> 01:50:30,365
They're the old style. They're blueprints and it's cool.

1134
01:50:30,475 --> 01:50:31,845
They may be even some vellum

1135
01:50:31,845 --> 01:50:34,565
that were like trait full size like, Hmm.

1136
01:50:34,835 --> 01:50:37,205
Ball. Right. Yeah. Very

1137
01:50:37,205 --> 01:50:38,205
Cool.

1138
01:50:38,205 --> 01:50:39,325
High detailed photograph and do prints. We can

1139
01:50:39,325 --> 01:50:40,325
Scan.

1140
01:50:40,325 --> 01:50:41,285
We have a roller scanner at the Historical society.

1141
01:50:41,285 --> 01:50:43,165
We rolling? Yes. We could scan 'em.

1142
01:50:44,075 --> 01:50:47,765
Yeah. Cool. The, that's how we do historic presentation.

1143
01:50:47,785 --> 01:50:48,845
Mr. Baker, how long would

1144
01:50:48,845 --> 01:50:49,845
It take?

1145
01:50:49,845 --> 01:50:52,025
Actually Drew was,

1146
01:50:53,705 --> 01:50:55,505
I don't remember her first name,

1147
01:50:56,405 --> 01:50:57,905
but she is the

1148
01:50:59,955 --> 01:51:03,095
second Freeman in the Freeman, French Freeman Cool.

1149
01:51:03,235 --> 01:51:04,615
Or her husband and a partner.

1150
01:51:05,655 --> 01:51:08,075
And she does that building was designed

1151
01:51:08,075 --> 01:51:09,835
by a female architect back in the thirties.

1152
01:51:10,485 --> 01:51:13,775
Right. Cool. Awesome. So it's it's got some, yeah.

1153
01:51:13,775 --> 01:51:15,015
Really interesting history

1154
01:51:15,115 --> 01:51:19,735
and especially the way they fit things together

1155
01:51:20,085 --> 01:51:25,065
with like the kitchen and a bit where it is,

1156
01:51:25,325 --> 01:51:27,225
you know, between the floors with the

1157
01:51:28,775 --> 01:51:29,775
Yeah.

1158
01:51:29,775 --> 01:51:31,425
Cool. It's still a documentary.

1159
01:51:33,085 --> 01:51:34,665
We still got the B to deal with too.

1160
01:51:35,145 --> 01:51:38,905
Hmm. So in the, in the event that we would have an issue

1161
01:51:38,905 --> 01:51:41,825
with the boiler going down, two questions.

1162
01:51:41,925 --> 01:51:44,785
My first question is, how fast would it take us to get

1163
01:51:45,645 --> 01:51:50,145
the new boiler's temporary one up and running? And I'm

1164
01:51:50,145 --> 01:51:51,465
Not sure of

1165
01:51:53,285 --> 01:51:56,595
Weeks, days, I mean any ballpark

1166
01:51:57,285 --> 01:51:59,075
Might be a good thing that we should look into.

1167
01:51:59,355 --> 01:52:01,275
I think if we're talking November

1168
01:52:01,855 --> 01:52:03,635
and the boiler goes, we need to know

1169
01:52:04,215 --> 01:52:06,035
how fast we can get it up and running.

1170
01:52:06,505 --> 01:52:11,435
Whether it's to not have an interruption in activities

1171
01:52:11,435 --> 01:52:13,595
or whether it's to keep the building from freezing.

1172
01:52:14,355 --> 01:52:16,675
I think that we need to know what that timeframe is

1173
01:52:16,695 --> 01:52:18,675
and where we would get the equipment from.

1174
01:52:19,495 --> 01:52:20,995
You get that emergency plan in place.

1175
01:52:20,995 --> 01:52:22,715
Okay. Because to be proactive

1176
01:52:22,715 --> 01:52:24,395
and not reactive, I think that needs

1177
01:52:24,395 --> 01:52:26,635
to be really important in this process. Yep.

1178
01:52:27,045 --> 01:52:29,315
We're And again, if we can fix that second boiler

1179
01:52:29,315 --> 01:52:32,075
and it's something simpler, then awesome.

1180
01:52:32,675 --> 01:52:34,555
But again, if you're saying it's dead,

1181
01:52:35,625 --> 01:52:36,625
It's packed.

1182
01:52:36,625 --> 01:52:39,475
That's what it's, it's parts just as long

1183
01:52:39,475 --> 01:52:41,595
as the same part doesn't break we're Yeah. Right.

1184
01:52:41,665 --> 01:52:44,195
It's, so I think it would definitely be really important

1185
01:52:44,335 --> 01:52:47,405
for us to get an emergency plan in place so that way,

1186
01:52:48,145 --> 01:52:51,405
and we'll say if and not when it breaks,

1187
01:52:51,545 --> 01:52:54,165
we have a plan in place so that way we can put

1188
01:52:54,165 --> 01:52:55,845
that plan in place if it happens.

1189
01:52:56,925 --> 01:53:00,335
Yeah. We have a consensual consensus with that council.

1190
01:53:01,615 --> 01:53:04,315
We want to plan in place in the event of something happens.

1191
01:53:05,585 --> 01:53:10,075
Okay. Anything else on the civic center

1192
01:53:10,075 --> 01:53:12,155
auditorium renovation project? I would

1193
01:53:12,155 --> 01:53:13,915
Move to Approve the two contracts at hand.

1194
01:53:14,295 --> 01:53:17,075
Second. Wonderful. Any discussion regarding those?

1195
01:53:18,375 --> 01:53:20,075
All right. Hearing and seeing on none.

1196
01:53:20,095 --> 01:53:23,755
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

1197
01:53:24,665 --> 01:53:28,625
That will pass Counsel. Mr. Baker.

1198
01:53:29,165 --> 01:53:31,185
The bill or renovation update.

1199
01:53:34,655 --> 01:53:36,305
Okay, I leave you now.

1200
01:53:39,745 --> 01:53:43,505
I was, he's done plenty. No grants on this one.

1201
01:53:43,725 --> 01:53:45,705
All the heavy lifting on this, the first part.

1202
01:53:45,725 --> 01:53:46,785
So we're, we can go.

1203
01:53:49,265 --> 01:53:51,565
As you know, we replaced the header last year.

1204
01:53:53,105 --> 01:53:56,935
We found out we, the lateral tubings that run

1205
01:53:56,935 --> 01:53:59,745
through the floor is

1206
01:54:00,155 --> 01:54:02,225
54-year-old plastic.

1207
01:54:02,735 --> 01:54:04,745
Okay. Demonstration here. If anyone would like.

1208
01:54:08,275 --> 01:54:11,645
Thank you. And this is embedded in the concrete.

1209
01:54:11,715 --> 01:54:14,285
This is embedded in concrete. Okay.

1210
01:54:14,495 --> 01:54:16,965
Right now we're dealing with just the pieces

1211
01:54:16,965 --> 01:54:18,165
that are exposed.

1212
01:54:20,075 --> 01:54:24,575
Every time we try to fix it, it's splits even more.

1213
01:54:27,025 --> 01:54:30,585
So we are now, you know, we had,

1214
01:54:30,885 --> 01:54:32,945
and then we had a leak last October,

1215
01:54:34,325 --> 01:54:37,355
which we had enough glycol leftover from

1216
01:54:37,375 --> 01:54:38,395
the, the header project.

1217
01:54:38,975 --> 01:54:41,435
We were able to recharge, fix it, and recharge immediately.

1218
01:54:41,435 --> 01:54:43,755
And we only lost like three days of ice rental.

1219
01:54:45,465 --> 01:54:47,725
We had another one this spring,

1220
01:54:48,855 --> 01:54:51,605
which we did not have the glycol to repair, replace it.

1221
01:54:51,755 --> 01:54:55,445
Seating had to lost the last two weeks of the season.

1222
01:54:55,785 --> 01:54:57,485
And Spalding

1223
01:54:57,485 --> 01:55:00,965
and U 32 had to reschedule their playoff games.

1224
01:55:01,805 --> 01:55:06,135
I remember the, As we were looking at it, this,

1225
01:55:06,805 --> 01:55:09,015
this fall, we found 12 leaks.

1226
01:55:10,735 --> 01:55:14,675
12 leaks. The breakdown was in the packet

1227
01:55:17,605 --> 01:55:21,635
going forward here, the, just to get ready

1228
01:55:22,775 --> 01:55:26,315
for ice, it's gonna cost us 60 to $65,000.

1229
01:55:27,645 --> 01:55:31,495
Okay. The, the brine pump,

1230
01:55:31,825 --> 01:55:35,415
which is $25,000 we knew was coming back

1231
01:55:35,435 --> 01:55:36,735
in back in the spring.

1232
01:55:36,975 --> 01:55:38,135
Nicholas signed the PO on that.

1233
01:55:40,815 --> 01:55:43,165
They're gonna be putting that in tomorrow. Tomorrow.

1234
01:55:45,035 --> 01:55:48,795
The cooling tower repair, that's the tower

1235
01:55:48,795 --> 01:55:53,715
behind the building where it dumps the heat, had many leaks

1236
01:55:53,715 --> 01:55:55,675
and we lost a lot of water at the backside.

1237
01:55:56,565 --> 01:55:57,935
That repair should be completed tomorrow.

1238
01:55:59,175 --> 01:56:02,185
They're gonna be starting on the floor,

1239
01:56:02,295 --> 01:56:04,775
lateral lines tomorrow as well.

1240
01:56:06,075 --> 01:56:09,605
Repairing them. And then we're gonna pressure test the,

1241
01:56:09,745 --> 01:56:12,065
the system over the weekend.

1242
01:56:13,625 --> 01:56:17,775
Leave it under pressure for the, to see if we have any more

1243
01:56:18,155 --> 01:56:19,695
before we put the glycol in it.

1244
01:56:21,305 --> 01:56:23,115
Then we'll charge it with the glycol.

1245
01:56:23,215 --> 01:56:24,995
And right now the current plan is

1246
01:56:24,995 --> 01:56:27,875
to start the compressors sometime about the 12th

1247
01:56:27,975 --> 01:56:29,595
or 13th of October

1248
01:56:31,685 --> 01:56:33,665
for ice ready for the 31st.

1249
01:56:36,475 --> 01:56:40,055
And this has zero guarantees

1250
01:56:40,605 --> 01:56:42,135
that it will hold up.

1251
01:56:43,415 --> 01:56:44,575
I think Tom said something

1252
01:56:44,575 --> 01:56:46,015
to me while we were looking at today

1253
01:56:46,015 --> 01:56:47,935
that I think it's definitely important

1254
01:56:47,935 --> 01:56:49,055
that everyone knows like that.

1255
01:56:49,275 --> 01:56:51,695
So that's about 50 something years old. It's

1256
01:56:51,695 --> 01:56:53,135
It's 54 years old I believe.

1257
01:56:53,205 --> 01:56:56,335
Yeah. He said usually the life on that stuff is 25.

1258
01:56:56,885 --> 01:56:59,095
This, this rink, how it's set up, the, the,

1259
01:56:59,155 --> 01:57:00,815
the plastic it owes us nothing.

1260
01:57:01,555 --> 01:57:03,815
It is, it is done well, more than it's life.

1261
01:57:04,075 --> 01:57:05,615
Let you know and it's still going on,

1262
01:57:05,615 --> 01:57:07,535
but it, it's, it's limping on.

1263
01:57:07,535 --> 01:57:10,255
And I heard that Barry, he told me if he's not lying to me,

1264
01:57:10,435 --> 01:57:12,695
he told me Barry's a big hockey town.

1265
01:57:13,525 --> 01:57:16,695
Yeah. So again, it's to prove. Yeah.

1266
01:57:17,475 --> 01:57:19,615
So it's something, something you guys need to be aware of

1267
01:57:20,605 --> 01:57:25,175
that the, the system is, it's done its job twice over.

1268
01:57:25,445 --> 01:57:26,655
Give a little perspective.

1269
01:57:28,095 --> 01:57:29,785
Norwich had to replace their floor

1270
01:57:30,045 --> 01:57:33,255
and their new rink at 20 years.

1271
01:57:35,075 --> 01:57:38,575
So we're at 54. We, it it's done very, very well. Yeah.

1272
01:57:39,745 --> 01:57:40,845
Sounds as welling.

1273
01:57:42,165 --> 01:57:43,445
Everyone knows how I feel about this.

1274
01:57:45,615 --> 01:57:47,015
I my question for you,

1275
01:57:47,275 --> 01:57:48,655
and maybe I'll just be clear for people

1276
01:57:48,655 --> 01:57:49,815
who don't know how I stand on it,

1277
01:57:49,815 --> 01:57:50,815
I don't know.

1278
01:57:51,575 --> 01:57:54,055
I think that we're continuing to spend a lot of money

1279
01:57:54,915 --> 01:57:59,575
to have a facility that is I understand

1280
01:57:59,575 --> 01:58:04,335
where a hockey town, I think there are a lot of other things

1281
01:58:04,335 --> 01:58:06,415
that we could do with this, with the money.

1282
01:58:06,595 --> 01:58:08,335
And I also think there's a lot of other things

1283
01:58:08,335 --> 01:58:10,495
that we could do with the building.

1284
01:58:11,835 --> 01:58:15,015
My question for, I prefer, I would recommend,

1285
01:58:15,075 --> 01:58:16,655
and I've recommended this for years and years

1286
01:58:16,655 --> 01:58:18,255
and years, just have year round turf.

1287
01:58:18,355 --> 01:58:20,295
But I know I'm getting outvoted.

1288
01:58:20,315 --> 01:58:22,135
He I know I'm getting He can't

1289
01:58:22,325 --> 01:58:25,135
Because the building has zero insulation.

1290
01:58:25,415 --> 01:58:27,575
I know, but what I'm saying is you're gonna spend this

1291
01:58:27,575 --> 01:58:28,855
much money fixing up ice

1292
01:58:29,035 --> 01:58:31,495
and you could spend that money on heating the building

1293
01:58:31,645 --> 01:58:34,695
instead of, so I'm, I I'm not gonna argue with you

1294
01:58:34,695 --> 01:58:36,055
because I know I'm not gonna win,

1295
01:58:36,875 --> 01:58:38,855
but I'm putting it out there for anybody else

1296
01:58:39,035 --> 01:58:40,215
who would like to get on my team.

1297
01:58:41,385 --> 01:58:44,525
So my question for you is, this is just a fix for this year.

1298
01:58:45,555 --> 01:58:47,535
And so we're going to have to replace everything,

1299
01:58:47,665 --> 01:58:51,735
which it looks like a 1.7 to $2 million price tag

1300
01:58:52,035 --> 01:58:53,895
Is to replace the floor.

1301
01:58:54,395 --> 01:58:57,255
And that's, That is like worst case scenario.

1302
01:58:57,875 --> 01:58:59,495
But that's what we have to do next year.

1303
01:59:00,905 --> 01:59:03,365
We will have to do it at some point. Okay.

1304
01:59:03,805 --> 01:59:05,725
'cause eventually once we

1305
01:59:07,815 --> 01:59:10,755
use up all the black plastic that's sticking out

1306
01:59:10,935 --> 01:59:13,235
and then we start getting up to the concrete,

1307
01:59:15,115 --> 01:59:18,255
we have options where we can close, if one line closes

1308
01:59:18,255 --> 01:59:21,255
that we can plug it, plug that line off

1309
01:59:22,685 --> 01:59:26,425
and the ones on both sides will cover the, the cooling.

1310
01:59:26,645 --> 01:59:29,425
But you'll get a gray stripe down your, down your ice.

1311
01:59:31,175 --> 01:59:32,235
You said it's gonna have a different

1312
01:59:33,265 --> 01:59:34,265
Density too.

1313
01:59:34,315 --> 01:59:35,395
A different play. So, so it may

1314
01:59:35,505 --> 01:59:38,155
puck may be going then slow down. Yeah. Yeah.

1315
01:59:38,905 --> 01:59:39,915
Well I think that happens garden,

1316
01:59:40,175 --> 01:59:43,675
but I feel like that happens probably now in some

1317
01:59:44,565 --> 01:59:47,635
sense when the weather's really warm, I've walked in there

1318
01:59:47,635 --> 01:59:49,395
and the glass has completely fogged

1319
01:59:49,985 --> 01:59:50,985
That.

1320
01:59:50,985 --> 01:59:51,515
Yes. We ha we do not have a de

1321
01:59:51,855 --> 01:59:53,355
dehumidification system in there.

1322
01:59:53,355 --> 01:59:56,555
Right. So when we, so the start of the start

1323
01:59:56,555 --> 01:59:59,275
of the year when it gets up above 40 degrees outside.

1324
01:59:59,485 --> 02:00:01,755
Right. The glass all fogs up. Yeah.

1325
02:00:02,615 --> 02:00:04,595
And does that also impact the, the ice?

1326
02:00:05,595 --> 02:00:08,815
It impacts the soft, it gets a little it gets soft. Foggy.

1327
02:00:08,815 --> 02:00:10,735
Yeah. But uniformly. Uniformly.

1328
02:00:10,735 --> 02:00:12,815
So uniformly across the whole thing. Okay.

1329
02:00:13,315 --> 02:00:15,375
So, but what I'm hearing from you, what your answer

1330
02:00:15,395 --> 02:00:16,935
to my question was, is yes, we're gonna have

1331
02:00:16,935 --> 02:00:20,775
to spend potentially up to $2 million to replace this so

1332
02:00:20,775 --> 02:00:23,215
that we can continue to have hockey in Berry City.

1333
02:00:24,345 --> 02:00:27,665
Yes. Okay. That's the point. And a new roof.

1334
02:00:28,325 --> 02:00:29,665
And a new roof. And A new roof.

1335
02:00:30,125 --> 02:00:33,705
So we're looking at close to $2.3 million

1336
02:00:35,235 --> 02:00:38,495
and you'll see absolutely zero change in the building

1337
02:00:40,585 --> 02:00:41,755
Council Bergeron.

1338
02:00:42,055 --> 02:00:43,315
So just for the manager.

1339
02:00:43,495 --> 02:00:44,555
So he understands

1340
02:00:46,105 --> 02:00:48,275
that building was never meant to be enclosed.

1341
02:00:48,735 --> 02:00:50,195
That's Tom, Tom gave me the

1342
02:00:50,195 --> 02:00:51,435
rundown. He showed me where?

1343
02:00:51,755 --> 02:00:54,915
DOR right? Yeah. It was a federal grant program

1344
02:00:55,405 --> 02:00:58,395
where they built these outdoor rinks

1345
02:00:58,935 --> 02:01:00,675
and they just had a roof on 'em.

1346
02:01:01,055 --> 02:01:04,275
And that was it. Because I remember, you know,

1347
02:01:04,495 --> 02:01:06,555
in the winter up there, the wind would blow right through.

1348
02:01:06,615 --> 02:01:08,595
Oh yeah. You'd have snow drifts on the ice.

1349
02:01:08,735 --> 02:01:12,875
And in the summer there was three tennis courts

1350
02:01:12,935 --> 02:01:14,795
and a basketball court in there.

1351
02:01:14,935 --> 02:01:16,555
So it was used all summer too.

1352
02:01:16,815 --> 02:01:19,195
But, but once they closed it in,

1353
02:01:19,465 --> 02:01:23,355
they never thought about putting dehumidification in there.

1354
02:01:24,095 --> 02:01:27,555
No air changers. So it just sits there

1355
02:01:27,575 --> 02:01:30,115
and it's, it's like a sponge soaking up the water.

1356
02:01:32,535 --> 02:01:34,245
Thank you. Bounce Augustin

1357
02:01:34,665 --> 02:01:35,665
The Roof.

1358
02:01:36,785 --> 02:01:38,165
And apologies that I can't remember.

1359
02:01:38,165 --> 02:01:40,245
Have we already allocated capital improvement funds for

1360
02:01:40,245 --> 02:01:41,245
This?

1361
02:01:41,245 --> 02:01:41,805
It is in the capital. Okay.

1362
02:01:41,805 --> 02:01:43,885
Improvement plan for okay. This fiscal year.

1363
02:01:43,905 --> 02:01:46,325
So we've already basically committed the 600,000.

1364
02:01:46,385 --> 02:01:47,645
So the, so we're looking at,

1365
02:01:47,675 --> 02:01:52,125
It's, it's got five, I believe there's 550 in the plan,

1366
02:01:52,125 --> 02:01:55,725
and I'm expecting it's probably gonna be close to 600 with

1367
02:01:57,115 --> 02:01:58,115
Okay.

1368
02:01:58,115 --> 02:01:59,325
But the bulk of it is, I guess, that I'm,

1369
02:01:59,835 --> 02:02:01,245
that money is committed and set.

1370
02:02:02,505 --> 02:02:04,325
So we're looking at just, just the floor

1371
02:02:04,425 --> 02:02:06,245
as a potential Thank you. Okay.

1372
02:02:06,615 --> 02:02:08,845
Again, at some point Yeah. In the future. Yeah.

1373
02:02:09,065 --> 02:02:12,765
Yep. Just to give you ideas of

1374
02:02:13,785 --> 02:02:18,185
scales of stuff, the compressor units,

1375
02:02:18,835 --> 02:02:20,585
again are 54 years old.

1376
02:02:21,655 --> 02:02:24,465
They produce the best ice in the state from

1377
02:02:24,465 --> 02:02:25,865
what I'm told by hockey people.

1378
02:02:26,265 --> 02:02:30,385
Right. A new set of compressors is a million dollars.

1379
02:02:31,405 --> 02:02:35,425
Oh my gosh. That is a compressor unit,

1380
02:02:35,425 --> 02:02:37,705
which comes in, looks like a Conex box

1381
02:02:37,805 --> 02:02:41,625
and it slides in, they just plug the, plug the into it

1382
02:02:41,765 --> 02:02:43,735
and away you go.

1383
02:02:44,965 --> 02:02:48,385
Okay. If you're looking at dehumidification system, again,

1384
02:02:48,765 --> 02:02:51,145
it seems like everything in a hockey rink starts with a,

1385
02:02:51,685 --> 02:02:53,625
you know, a million dollars.

1386
02:02:55,195 --> 02:02:56,285
It's about a million dollars

1387
02:02:56,285 --> 02:02:57,965
to put a dehumidification system in,

1388
02:02:59,025 --> 02:03:02,365
but it also takes it 130,000 in revenue per year.

1389
02:03:02,905 --> 02:03:04,645
So if you get a 15 year loan

1390
02:03:06,025 --> 02:03:08,805
and utilize that as collateral,

1391
02:03:09,555 --> 02:03:10,805
it's a no, it's a business move.

1392
02:03:11,345 --> 02:03:14,565
It can't take away the PORI don't care. It's haw.

1393
02:03:14,865 --> 02:03:16,885
I'm not recommending it. I wouldn't, I mean, you know

1394
02:03:16,885 --> 02:03:19,205
how it's a public, you make a public humiliation.

1395
02:03:19,305 --> 02:03:20,805
Our hockey team has to go

1396
02:03:20,805 --> 02:03:22,805
to a different municipality to play hockey.

1397
02:03:24,115 --> 02:03:26,965
That the auditorium are our largest revenue sources

1398
02:03:27,475 --> 02:03:30,165
because the infrastructure wasn't taken care of in the past.

1399
02:03:31,025 --> 02:03:33,165
Is not our fault, but it's our problem.

1400
02:03:33,505 --> 02:03:36,925
So now it's time to fix things. We're redoing it.

1401
02:03:36,945 --> 02:03:38,925
We barry's getting a rebirth of everything.

1402
02:03:39,145 --> 02:03:40,905
Gluing the roads. Yeah.

1403
02:03:41,165 --> 02:03:43,905
So I, I've, I'm in favor of fixing it all

1404
02:03:44,285 --> 02:03:47,545
and we'll figure it out financially to turn into a business,

1405
02:03:47,545 --> 02:03:48,625
you gotta take a loan out

1406
02:03:48,625 --> 02:03:49,705
and defer it to

1407
02:03:49,805 --> 02:03:52,465
how much money it's coming in yearly from that.

1408
02:03:53,165 --> 02:03:55,505
Or even make a 20 year period for that matter.

1409
02:03:57,085 --> 02:04:00,065
Mr. Bakker, how come this wasn't pressure tested back in

1410
02:04:00,065 --> 02:04:02,345
the spring when we knew that there were leaks in

1411
02:04:02,345 --> 02:04:04,715
between seasons to see

1412
02:04:04,715 --> 02:04:07,035
If there were, we're gonna do it in the fall,

1413
02:04:07,775 --> 02:04:09,595
But wouldn't we have wanted to be proactive

1414
02:04:09,595 --> 02:04:11,555
to see if there were more than 12 leaks

1415
02:04:11,555 --> 02:04:12,715
so we could have a better cost

1416
02:04:12,995 --> 02:04:14,035
estimate coming into the fall?

1417
02:04:16,605 --> 02:04:18,335
Just being proactive and not reactive.

1418
02:04:18,335 --> 02:04:22,135
Just move forward. I mean, I just want to kind of be

1419
02:04:22,135 --> 02:04:24,535
as proactive as possible with all these projects.

1420
02:04:25,075 --> 02:04:27,855
And I feel like if we had potentially pressure tested in the

1421
02:04:27,855 --> 02:04:30,135
spring when we closed down hockey

1422
02:04:30,275 --> 02:04:31,775
and told the kids they were gonna have

1423
02:04:31,775 --> 02:04:33,975
to go play their playoffs at in Montpelier,

1424
02:04:34,565 --> 02:04:37,285
that maybe if we had pressure tested this as well

1425
02:04:38,145 --> 02:04:40,965
in the spring, we would have a better cost estimate

1426
02:04:41,695 --> 02:04:46,485
about 12 lines and maybe there are 25 lines that are blown.

1427
02:04:47,185 --> 02:04:51,365
And like I said, this is, comes with zero guarantees. I

1428
02:04:51,365 --> 02:04:52,365
Get it.

1429
02:04:52,365 --> 02:04:53,445
We could blow another 12 lines

1430
02:04:53,515 --> 02:04:54,685
when we test it on Saturday.

1431
02:04:54,815 --> 02:04:58,025
Right. And so, So they're learning curve.

1432
02:04:58,325 --> 02:05:02,735
My question becomes, can we in the future be proactive

1433
02:05:02,745 --> 02:05:07,135
about things like this so we're not having to go six months

1434
02:05:07,285 --> 02:05:08,815
with finding out the results?

1435
02:05:09,735 --> 02:05:14,015
'cause my frustration here is that six months ago we knew

1436
02:05:14,175 --> 02:05:15,415
that we had lines blown.

1437
02:05:15,915 --> 02:05:18,095
We didn't necessarily know the scope of the project,

1438
02:05:18,475 --> 02:05:20,575
but we knew that there was an issue with the project.

1439
02:05:21,315 --> 02:05:24,895
And now we're coming here in September talking about opening

1440
02:05:24,995 --> 02:05:28,135
up the BOR, I'm sorry, the, yeah, the BOR

1441
02:05:29,365 --> 02:05:32,895
with 12 lines that are currently known to be blown.

1442
02:05:33,515 --> 02:05:34,615
And with the potential

1443
02:05:34,615 --> 02:05:37,255
that this weekend when we pressurize the lines,

1444
02:05:37,955 --> 02:05:40,975
we could then see one or

1445
02:05:41,035 --> 02:05:43,135
or many more go

1446
02:05:45,095 --> 02:05:46,105
Councilor Guston.

1447
02:05:46,305 --> 02:05:48,345
I just wanna say I'm not, I'm not sure the math works out

1448
02:05:48,345 --> 02:05:51,745
on that old plastic response to temperature changes.

1449
02:05:52,645 --> 02:05:54,545
And it breaks down with temperature changes.

1450
02:05:54,885 --> 02:05:56,825
And these systems were exposed

1451
02:05:56,845 --> 02:05:58,225
to temperature changes all summer.

1452
02:05:58,285 --> 02:05:59,585
We could have tested it in the spring

1453
02:05:59,885 --> 02:06:01,425
and then it still would've blown in the fall.

1454
02:06:02,245 --> 02:06:04,625
So it makes sense to me to wait till the fall

1455
02:06:04,625 --> 02:06:06,385
and then to blow as many as we can

1456
02:06:06,565 --> 02:06:08,225
and figure out as many as we can and fix.

1457
02:06:08,265 --> 02:06:09,665
I realize the schedule is not ideal,

1458
02:06:10,725 --> 02:06:13,905
but like, it could very, very easily have picked up more,

1459
02:06:14,015 --> 02:06:15,185
more problems over the summer

1460
02:06:15,285 --> 02:06:16,705
and we would've felt confident if

1461
02:06:16,705 --> 02:06:17,705
that we'd fixed it in the spring

1462
02:06:17,705 --> 02:06:20,665
and then just been in a, in a, a whole quagmire.

1463
02:06:21,445 --> 02:06:22,785
And I guess I have a question too.

1464
02:06:23,205 --> 02:06:25,305
Is there any action that you need counsel to take tonight?

1465
02:06:25,305 --> 02:06:26,305
Or is this just informative

1466
02:06:26,555 --> 02:06:27,555
Right now?

1467
02:06:27,555 --> 02:06:28,225
This is just an informative

1468
02:06:28,465 --> 02:06:30,305
'cause you, thank you okayed the,

1469
02:06:31,415 --> 02:06:33,475
the startup, the initial fix.

1470
02:06:33,825 --> 02:06:35,675
Yeah. I just wanna make sure everyone knows this.

1471
02:06:36,185 --> 02:06:38,715
There's gonna be more, we are gonna have to have

1472
02:06:38,715 --> 02:06:41,415
that discussion on, on the floor.

1473
02:06:42,575 --> 02:06:45,505
It's gonna have to happen. 'cause eventually the rest

1474
02:06:45,505 --> 02:06:47,665
of 'em are gonna, we're gonna run out.

1475
02:06:48,045 --> 02:06:52,025
As you did see in the packet there is the picture I sent

1476
02:06:53,255 --> 02:06:57,745
that gray sec, dark gray section you see is wet concrete.

1477
02:06:58,365 --> 02:07:03,105
So there is some kind of leak under the con concrete.

1478
02:07:03,175 --> 02:07:04,785
Michael, I don't know how big,

1479
02:07:05,885 --> 02:07:07,905
it could just be a very minuscule leak

1480
02:07:07,905 --> 02:07:09,105
that's just keeping it wet.

1481
02:07:10,795 --> 02:07:14,585
Right. But we, that shows we, there is a leak under the,

1482
02:07:15,045 --> 02:07:16,825
and that is right behind the goal.

1483
02:07:17,775 --> 02:07:20,825
Okay. So it's probably in the playing surface somewhere.

1484
02:07:21,175 --> 02:07:22,465
Okay. Councillor Hillgardner.

1485
02:07:22,485 --> 02:07:25,145
Oh, I just wanna point out that the proactive thing to do

1486
02:07:25,725 --> 02:07:27,705
is to replace the place

1487
02:07:28,685 --> 02:07:32,945
and not keep, you know, you know, fixing,

1488
02:07:33,365 --> 02:07:37,845
you know, cobbling together fixes that

1489
02:07:38,235 --> 02:07:42,045
however does require a big conversation about the basic

1490
02:07:42,095 --> 02:07:45,365
price tag because you know, we have so many demands

1491
02:07:45,705 --> 02:07:47,645
and if we had to choose between the BOR

1492
02:07:47,665 --> 02:07:49,285
and a sewer system, for example,

1493
02:07:49,485 --> 02:07:53,885
I think I'd choose the sewer. But that's me.

1494
02:07:54,145 --> 02:07:56,885
That's so swallow. So a couple of questions about,

1495
02:07:57,065 --> 02:07:58,845
so the floor, we're gonna do this

1496
02:07:58,845 --> 02:08:03,725
and hopefully this $65,000 fix will

1497
02:08:03,725 --> 02:08:06,085
take care of the floor, the, the leaks

1498
02:08:06,585 --> 02:08:11,505
and then, excuse me, the cost

1499
02:08:11,505 --> 02:08:14,745
to replace the floor is let's say $2 million.

1500
02:08:15,285 --> 02:08:19,025
And then the cost to replace compressors is $1 million.

1501
02:08:19,405 --> 02:08:21,625
The compressors are functioning.

1502
02:08:21,695 --> 02:08:25,365
They're functioning, we maintain them every year.

1503
02:08:25,555 --> 02:08:28,655
They can be go, they could go another 50 years

1504
02:08:29,075 --> 02:08:30,295
Or they could go five days.

1505
02:08:30,355 --> 02:08:31,855
We don't know. Right. Preventive

1506
02:08:31,855 --> 02:08:32,855
Maintenance.

1507
02:08:32,855 --> 02:08:34,815
Okay. But we're doing all the preventative maintenance.

1508
02:08:35,165 --> 02:08:37,615
Okay. And then dehumidification, which we don't have,

1509
02:08:37,835 --> 02:08:40,575
but if you were going to replace all these other things,

1510
02:08:40,795 --> 02:08:42,015
it would probably make sense

1511
02:08:42,315 --> 02:08:43,855
If we were going to do a new building

1512
02:08:45,005 --> 02:08:46,615
that would be included in it.

1513
02:08:47,075 --> 02:08:49,175
Is there anything else? There's the compressor,

1514
02:08:49,175 --> 02:08:50,895
there's the floor dehumidification.

1515
02:08:50,995 --> 02:08:52,935
Is there anything else? The roof.

1516
02:08:52,935 --> 02:08:54,735
The roof Within the roof. If

1517
02:08:54,735 --> 02:08:57,375
We get the roof again,

1518
02:08:57,995 --> 02:09:00,415
the locker rooms over there are incredibly small.

1519
02:09:00,565 --> 02:09:03,895
Yeah. Wood box. And one of them's on the second floor.

1520
02:09:04,285 --> 02:09:07,575
Well the, the Sping boys locker room that's upstairs

1521
02:09:08,315 --> 02:09:09,615
is adequately sized.

1522
02:09:09,885 --> 02:09:14,255
Okay. The Spalding girls locker room is a little undersized.

1523
02:09:14,795 --> 02:09:16,535
The four public locker rooms

1524
02:09:17,105 --> 02:09:19,735
right off the ice are incredibly undersized.

1525
02:09:20,125 --> 02:09:24,095
Tiny. Especially from my, from my understanding is

1526
02:09:24,095 --> 02:09:26,255
that when you get a youth team in there

1527
02:09:26,875 --> 02:09:31,135
and you gotta have the 12, 15 players plus

1528
02:09:32,215 --> 02:09:35,635
mom or dad in there helping each one get dressed,

1529
02:09:36,895 --> 02:09:38,555
it gets very, very congested.

1530
02:09:38,705 --> 02:09:40,635
Yeah. So,

1531
02:09:43,185 --> 02:09:45,565
But for equipment, it's compressor.

1532
02:09:45,705 --> 02:09:47,405
But as far as building equipment, those

1533
02:09:48,025 --> 02:09:49,615
would be the big, big

1534
02:09:49,615 --> 02:09:50,615
Ones.

1535
02:09:50,615 --> 02:09:51,775
And we just replaced the Zamboni. Correct.

1536
02:09:51,955 --> 02:09:56,635
The Zamboni is due to be, I was told in this month,

1537
02:09:57,235 --> 02:10:00,075
I have not heard it's been shipped yet, but, okay.

1538
02:10:00,665 --> 02:10:03,075
Wait, how, I'm sorry. How do they ship it?

1539
02:10:05,435 --> 02:10:09,335
I'm assuming they It probably comes on a, on a truck.

1540
02:10:09,485 --> 02:10:12,975
Yeah. Flatbed. Flatbed truck. That's awesome. Sorry.

1541
02:10:14,755 --> 02:10:15,935
On the highway. All the way from

1542
02:10:16,805 --> 02:10:18,615
have a parade when it comes in with it,

1543
02:10:18,685 --> 02:10:19,855
like on the tow truck.

1544
02:10:20,035 --> 02:10:21,895
Oh, it it is gonna come. It's gonna be white

1545
02:10:22,235 --> 02:10:24,215
and then we'll we'll get to decals put on it.

1546
02:10:25,815 --> 02:10:26,945
What are you doing with the old one?

1547
02:10:28,055 --> 02:10:30,145
I've already asked the old one.

1548
02:10:30,725 --> 02:10:32,985
The current one that we're using, we will take down to,

1549
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:35,045
to the north berry rink and put into storage.

1550
02:10:35,145 --> 02:10:36,805
As a backup. Yeah, backup.

1551
02:10:37,265 --> 02:10:40,765
And then the one that is in the north berry rink right now,

1552
02:10:41,505 --> 02:10:45,445
the 1974 vintage gasoline powered Zamboni.

1553
02:10:45,935 --> 02:10:47,725
We'll be going up for sale. Oh.

1554
02:10:47,725 --> 02:10:50,085
It becomes easily becomes a city manager's cost.

1555
02:10:51,395 --> 02:10:52,885
City manager can drive it around.

1556
02:10:54,665 --> 02:10:59,325
I'm the, it'll take me if they're still in business. Yeah.

1557
02:11:01,095 --> 02:11:03,955
All right. Any other questions for Mr. Baker regarding

1558
02:11:04,575 --> 02:11:06,315
the auto BOR renovations?

1559
02:11:06,425 --> 02:11:07,425
Just

1560
02:11:08,085 --> 02:11:09,085
ASAP.

1561
02:11:09,085 --> 02:11:10,885
Tell us about when you do those lines.

1562
02:11:11,705 --> 02:11:13,045
So we, I mean we gotta know

1563
02:11:13,045 --> 02:11:16,385
that right off you'll, you'll know.

1564
02:11:16,435 --> 02:11:18,465
Great. If we run into problems,

1565
02:11:18,565 --> 02:11:20,025
you will be the first one to say that.

1566
02:11:20,535 --> 02:11:21,665
Will we like hear it?

1567
02:11:23,515 --> 02:11:27,975
You hear it? No, I was at, I was boom.

1568
02:11:27,975 --> 02:11:30,735
We gonna have a whole nother problem. I was at St.

1569
02:11:30,735 --> 02:11:33,135
Monica's school when the first one collapsed

1570
02:11:33,475 --> 02:11:35,495
and I saw it collapse from the bathroom window.

1571
02:11:35,795 --> 02:11:38,655
The, the BOR collapsed the first one. Really? Yeah.

1572
02:11:38,685 --> 02:11:41,935
Back in 76. Oh my 75.

1573
02:11:42,195 --> 02:11:43,775
No it was, I was in eighth grade.

1574
02:11:43,995 --> 02:11:47,895
It was, or maybe it was in sixth grade. Spalding.

1575
02:11:48,155 --> 02:11:52,865
It was like 70. 73. Six. How was that? The old St.

1576
02:11:52,875 --> 02:11:56,625
Bon's. Just like Domino's just, was it snow load?

1577
02:11:57,165 --> 02:11:59,705
No, it just structural wasn't Oh wow.

1578
02:11:59,975 --> 02:12:03,825
They weren't all tied in yet, did it? It fell off.

1579
02:12:03,825 --> 02:12:07,145
The piers just boom slid off the piers.

1580
02:12:07,945 --> 02:12:10,145
Arches weren't all tied together in level,

1581
02:12:10,375 --> 02:12:11,585
they just blew over.

1582
02:12:12,285 --> 02:12:13,285
Oh

1583
02:12:15,055 --> 02:12:16,055
Sure.

1584
02:12:16,055 --> 02:12:16,345
You find out on council.

1585
02:12:16,685 --> 02:12:20,945
So anything else for Mr. Baker before we move on? Nope.

1586
02:12:20,975 --> 02:12:23,345
Alright, Mr. Baker, thank you for your time. Thanks

1587
02:12:23,345 --> 02:12:24,345
Sir.

1588
02:12:24,935 --> 02:12:28,305
Councilor Guston F Zi update.

1589
02:12:28,655 --> 02:12:31,465
Yeah. So we've touched on one element of the plan

1590
02:12:31,465 --> 02:12:32,665
with the auditorium,

1591
02:12:34,125 --> 02:12:36,105
but I wanted to talk a little bit tonight

1592
02:12:36,105 --> 02:12:37,265
about the Adopt a Drain program.

1593
02:12:37,365 --> 02:12:39,425
And apologies I did not prep slides.

1594
02:12:39,525 --> 02:12:41,825
So you're just gonna have to listen to me talk very briefly

1595
02:12:42,125 --> 02:12:43,425
to give an overview of the program

1596
02:12:45,685 --> 02:12:49,625
and where to find it for anyone who is interested in it.

1597
02:12:50,285 --> 02:12:55,065
The adoptive burning program provides basically a framework

1598
02:12:55,125 --> 02:12:58,065
for folks to adopt a storm drain in their neighborhood

1599
02:12:58,565 --> 02:13:00,985
and clean it out of surface debris.

1600
02:13:00,985 --> 02:13:03,465
Periodically report that debris back

1601
02:13:03,465 --> 02:13:04,785
to the adoptive drain program.

1602
02:13:05,085 --> 02:13:08,585
And then they collate all this interesting data for us about

1603
02:13:08,695 --> 02:13:10,145
what kind of debris is in there,

1604
02:13:10,165 --> 02:13:11,505
how frequently they're cleaned.

1605
02:13:12,605 --> 02:13:15,145
It provides also a measure of flood resiliency

1606
02:13:15,415 --> 02:13:18,745
because it water can go down clean drains

1607
02:13:18,885 --> 02:13:20,905
and it also has eyes on drains.

1608
02:13:21,305 --> 02:13:23,985
Folks with who are maintaining drains in their neighborhood

1609
02:13:24,165 --> 02:13:26,345
can more readily discover when one has broken

1610
02:13:26,605 --> 02:13:29,305
or clogged beyond their ability to unclog it.

1611
02:13:30,605 --> 02:13:33,765
You can adopt a drain by going by just, just Google,

1612
02:13:34,195 --> 02:13:35,445
Vermont, adopt a drain.

1613
02:13:35,545 --> 02:13:36,805
And then you can create an account

1614
02:13:36,825 --> 02:13:39,605
and it will basically geolocate you to Berry City.

1615
02:13:42,115 --> 02:13:45,735
The drains in the map right now

1616
02:13:45,735 --> 02:13:50,615
for Berry City have been created in sort of two, sort

1617
02:13:50,615 --> 02:13:52,335
of two ways that worked together.

1618
02:13:52,755 --> 02:13:54,535
One was a, a mapping exercise

1619
02:13:54,605 --> 02:13:57,855
that the Neighborly Berry Committee helped lead as well

1620
02:13:57,855 --> 02:14:01,455
as students at the Central Vermont Career Center walking

1621
02:14:01,455 --> 02:14:03,935
around and dropping pins on storm drains.

1622
02:14:04,195 --> 02:14:06,735
And the other was incorporating some DEC data.

1623
02:14:07,075 --> 02:14:10,135
And the folks that adopted drain sort of like meshed those

1624
02:14:10,755 --> 02:14:14,695
for a maximum accuracy to put all the pins for the drain.

1625
02:14:14,715 --> 02:14:17,415
So you'll see drains on your street in your neighborhood

1626
02:14:17,415 --> 02:14:19,615
when you log in and zoom down to your street.

1627
02:14:20,245 --> 02:14:22,175
However, no system is perfect.

1628
02:14:22,975 --> 02:14:24,295
I know a couple of folks have reached out

1629
02:14:24,295 --> 02:14:26,135
and said, oh, this drain is not,

1630
02:14:26,885 --> 02:14:29,855
this drain in my neighborhood is not on the system.

1631
02:14:30,855 --> 02:14:34,215
First of all, I would say make sure it's not just a like six

1632
02:14:34,215 --> 02:14:36,615
feet to the left, six feet to the right kind of situation.

1633
02:14:36,675 --> 02:14:39,415
And that the pin isn't just a little off.

1634
02:14:39,415 --> 02:14:42,055
And if it's a little off, like just pretend it's accurate,

1635
02:14:42,105 --> 02:14:46,455
it'll be fine if it really properly isn't there,

1636
02:14:47,285 --> 02:14:50,575
it's a very easy system to add the drain.

1637
02:14:50,915 --> 02:14:53,695
Go into the website while you are on your phone

1638
02:14:54,035 --> 02:14:57,495
and it will again geolocate you to that spot stand.

1639
02:14:58,075 --> 02:14:59,695
Please don't stand exactly on the drain,

1640
02:14:59,795 --> 02:15:01,655
but you know, stand pretty close to on the drain

1641
02:15:01,795 --> 02:15:04,295
and it, it will prompt you to drop a pin

1642
02:15:04,395 --> 02:15:07,655
and then submit that for, submit that for approval.

1643
02:15:08,155 --> 02:15:09,975
And the approvals they turn around pretty quickly.

1644
02:15:10,075 --> 02:15:11,495
So you should see it in the system too.

1645
02:15:11,515 --> 02:15:15,835
But I really, I feel like 99.9%

1646
02:15:15,865 --> 02:15:18,435
that we got that many of the drains.

1647
02:15:18,975 --> 02:15:23,115
So, oh, and by the way, it was close to 15,000.

1648
02:15:23,745 --> 02:15:25,995
Whoever, wherever we were placing bets on

1649
02:15:25,995 --> 02:15:27,355
how many it was, we were all way under.

1650
02:15:28,905 --> 02:15:32,675
Just watched one weekend under way under, way under.

1651
02:15:32,855 --> 02:15:34,715
It was sounds like one horrifying number

1652
02:15:34,735 --> 02:15:35,795
of storm trains, frankly.

1653
02:15:38,095 --> 02:15:42,315
So it really should be reasonably comprehensive.

1654
02:15:42,535 --> 02:15:46,235
We worked, like I said, with the D-E-C-J-I-S mapping that,

1655
02:15:46,265 --> 02:15:48,275
that supposedly mapped all the water systems

1656
02:15:48,575 --> 02:15:49,875
for watershed purposes.

1657
02:15:50,935 --> 02:15:53,275
So really try to be pretty sure that it isn't just

1658
02:15:53,995 --> 02:15:55,475
a little bit off from where you think it is

1659
02:15:56,415 --> 02:15:59,075
and that it, it truly is not there on the map.

1660
02:15:59,715 --> 02:16:02,035
'cause if we start to duplicate, it's gonna get,

1661
02:16:02,065 --> 02:16:03,435
it's gonna get messy from the back end.

1662
02:16:04,255 --> 02:16:06,795
So I would highly encourage folks to sign up for it.

1663
02:16:06,895 --> 02:16:11,875
We are, especially entering sort of yard debris and tree

1664
02:16:11,875 --> 02:16:13,355
and vegetation debris season,

1665
02:16:14,245 --> 02:16:16,595
those storm drains are gonna get clogged up with leaves,

1666
02:16:17,235 --> 02:16:20,435
yard clippings, other things falling off trees and,

1667
02:16:20,495 --> 02:16:21,875
and plants dying.

1668
02:16:23,175 --> 02:16:25,635
And then as folks know, we usually get a couple

1669
02:16:25,635 --> 02:16:26,875
of good rainstorms in the winter.

1670
02:16:27,495 --> 02:16:31,045
So keeping those storm drains clear ahead

1671
02:16:31,045 --> 02:16:33,285
of those rainstorms, shoveling some snow off

1672
02:16:33,285 --> 02:16:35,885
of it over the winter, this is an all season activity.

1673
02:16:36,605 --> 02:16:39,765
I would encourage folks to sign up for that program,

1674
02:16:40,055 --> 02:16:41,885
adopt their storm drain and,

1675
02:16:42,545 --> 02:16:45,245
and sort of help us out in maintaining that.

1676
02:16:45,265 --> 02:16:48,885
And again, I emphasize if you find a drain that is broken,

1677
02:16:48,955 --> 02:16:50,845
some of the catch basins underneath have broken

1678
02:16:50,945 --> 02:16:52,325
and sort of split and separated.

1679
02:16:52,325 --> 02:16:55,405
Some of them are sunk that we can put

1680
02:16:55,405 --> 02:16:57,285
that on the, the city's list.

1681
02:16:57,825 --> 02:16:58,965
And I would emphasize, again,

1682
02:16:58,965 --> 02:17:01,365
you're not reaching into the drain, please don't do that.

1683
02:17:01,365 --> 02:17:03,045
You're clearing off the surface

1684
02:17:03,545 --> 02:17:06,605
and like pulling a little bit of debris out from the grate,

1685
02:17:06,745 --> 02:17:07,925
but you're not looking down there

1686
02:17:07,925 --> 02:17:09,085
and trying to fish stuff out.

1687
02:17:09,905 --> 02:17:12,005
If you see a large amount of debris, a large amount

1688
02:17:12,005 --> 02:17:14,205
of gravel or anything like that, that's also a case

1689
02:17:14,205 --> 02:17:15,685
where you would notify the city.

1690
02:17:17,295 --> 02:17:18,395
Any questions on the program?

1691
02:17:18,455 --> 02:17:19,795
Are there any questions that folks were raising

1692
02:17:19,795 --> 02:17:20,875
that I, that I missed?

1693
02:17:22,945 --> 02:17:25,325
Is there, do we have a known adoption rate

1694
02:17:25,585 --> 02:17:27,125
of how many are un

1695
02:17:27,185 --> 02:17:28,185
That's a great question.

1696
02:17:28,205 --> 02:17:30,885
I, I apologize that I don't, but that's a great thing.

1697
02:17:30,955 --> 02:17:33,245
I'll try and find out from our folks.

1698
02:17:34,145 --> 02:17:36,085
Can we get one of the big thermometers? You know,

1699
02:17:37,895 --> 02:17:39,445
We're at this out of 15,000

1700
02:17:41,665 --> 02:17:44,125
and I also should mention the first, I think it's 50

1701
02:17:44,185 --> 02:17:47,085
or a hundred folks who adopt drains in Berry City get a

1702
02:17:47,085 --> 02:17:48,085
whole kit from them.

1703
02:17:48,145 --> 02:17:50,405
You get a little sign you can put in your front yard saying

1704
02:17:50,405 --> 02:17:51,645
that you've adopted a drain.

1705
02:17:52,225 --> 02:17:54,285
You get all sorts of stuff.

1706
02:17:54,465 --> 02:17:55,885
And it also prompts you to

1707
02:17:56,465 --> 02:17:58,525
log what's in the drain digitally.

1708
02:17:59,425 --> 02:18:01,805
It will also send you paper if that's how you want to do,

1709
02:18:01,865 --> 02:18:05,525
you wanna do an analog log, it will send you that as well.

1710
02:18:05,525 --> 02:18:10,485
It's all automated. It's all sort of being done

1711
02:18:10,865 --> 02:18:12,685
by the lovely folks at Hamline University.

1712
02:18:13,035 --> 02:18:16,405
They're also coming in the next couple of weeks to,

1713
02:18:17,305 --> 02:18:19,365
we had also, part of our contract with them was

1714
02:18:19,365 --> 02:18:22,645
to have a number of lesson plans and school kits.

1715
02:18:23,105 --> 02:18:24,565
And they are actively reaching out

1716
02:18:24,565 --> 02:18:26,405
and working with folks at CVCC

1717
02:18:26,405 --> 02:18:28,765
and at Spalding right now to place those kits.

1718
02:18:28,805 --> 02:18:30,725
A couple are going to the Aldridge Library, for example,

1719
02:18:30,725 --> 02:18:33,205
and their education coordinator is doing a big Vermont trip

1720
02:18:33,205 --> 02:18:35,245
because all of Chitta County uses this same program,

1721
02:18:36,305 --> 02:18:38,485
is doing a big Vermont trip and two or three weeks

1722
02:18:39,105 --> 02:18:41,965
and I'm gonna meet with her during that time.

1723
02:18:42,105 --> 02:18:45,005
So there's also like science education that goes on around

1724
02:18:45,795 --> 02:18:47,045
waterways and things like that.

1725
02:18:47,275 --> 02:18:48,685
That is gonna be implemented shortly.

1726
02:18:53,195 --> 02:18:57,085
Any questions for Councillor Guston? All right.

1727
02:18:57,085 --> 02:18:58,605
Hearing and seeing none,

1728
02:18:59,585 --> 02:19:02,165
we will finish up our regular agenda.

1729
02:19:04,565 --> 02:19:06,505
Any upcoming business? No, we have

1730
02:19:06,505 --> 02:19:09,265
90, We have Oh yeah, sorry.

1731
02:19:10,945 --> 02:19:13,465
Specific glue. Just kidding. Yeah. Yeah.

1732
02:19:13,485 --> 02:19:16,825
So we are going to move on to item D.

1733
02:19:17,055 --> 02:19:18,345
Yeah, I did have that. This,

1734
02:19:19,185 --> 02:19:20,185
I, I have it up.

1735
02:19:20,185 --> 02:19:22,785
I'm happy to read, make the motion and read it if

1736
02:19:22,785 --> 02:19:23,785
That works.

1737
02:19:23,785 --> 02:19:24,625
It's for me. Councilor Guin,

1738
02:19:26,245 --> 02:19:28,565
Having seen and reviewed the resolution

1739
02:19:28,665 --> 02:19:31,725
to authorize forgivable indebtedness pursuant

1740
02:19:31,745 --> 02:19:34,285
to 24 via SA 4 7 5.

1741
02:19:34,315 --> 02:19:37,565
Five A four D related to the financing

1742
02:19:37,565 --> 02:19:38,685
of the Barry Headworks project.

1743
02:19:39,005 --> 02:19:40,445
I hereby move the adoption

1744
02:19:40,465 --> 02:19:43,725
and approval of resolution 2026 dash 14

1745
02:19:44,145 --> 02:19:46,085
as presented at this meeting.

1746
02:19:47,105 --> 02:19:48,105
Second.

1747
02:19:48,835 --> 02:19:53,565
Alright. Any discussion regarding that Counselor Spalding,

1748
02:19:54,145 --> 02:19:55,565
Can someone explain what this is?

1749
02:19:58,265 --> 02:19:59,325
Go for it. Carol meet,

1750
02:19:59,325 --> 02:20:03,765
you see?

1751
02:20:05,725 --> 02:20:10,125
Okay. This is tied

1752
02:20:10,825 --> 02:20:14,325
to Carol City Treasurer for the record.

1753
02:20:15,435 --> 02:20:19,685
This is tied to the $7.6 million Headworks bond

1754
02:20:19,685 --> 02:20:21,605
that was approved two years ago.

1755
02:20:23,545 --> 02:20:26,325
And we have been working our way through

1756
02:20:28,565 --> 02:20:31,405
securing the funding since then.

1757
02:20:32,185 --> 02:20:37,085
You may recall a few months ago we actually applied for a,

1758
02:20:37,245 --> 02:20:38,485
a clean water grant.

1759
02:20:39,475 --> 02:20:41,525
Well, it's not a grant, it's a low interest loan

1760
02:20:41,525 --> 02:20:44,045
and it's actually a reverse interest loan.

1761
02:20:44,315 --> 02:20:47,005
There's a forgiveness portion to it.

1762
02:20:48,505 --> 02:20:53,485
So this is part of, of securing that loan

1763
02:20:54,705 --> 02:20:58,485
is documenting, accepting the, the forgiveness.

1764
02:20:58,665 --> 02:21:01,405
So essentially what happens is the project is about

1765
02:21:02,075 --> 02:21:06,525
nine little over $9 million, but the bond is 7.6

1766
02:21:08,025 --> 02:21:12,045
and the loan forgiveness will cover most,

1767
02:21:12,145 --> 02:21:13,565
if not all of that gap.

1768
02:21:14,625 --> 02:21:17,805
But we need to jump through the legal hoops

1769
02:21:18,345 --> 02:21:19,685
to get us to that point.

1770
02:21:20,035 --> 02:21:22,645
This is the last piece that we need.

1771
02:21:23,035 --> 02:21:27,365
Once we have this on record, then the attorney,

1772
02:21:27,385 --> 02:21:28,645
the bond attorney will be able

1773
02:21:28,645 --> 02:21:29,805
to write their opinion letter.

1774
02:21:30,055 --> 02:21:33,325
We'll be able to submit that to the funding agency to a

1775
02:21:33,325 --> 02:21:35,565
and r, and then we'll get our money.

1776
02:21:36,025 --> 02:21:40,125
So, and the project is in the works, so we're,

1777
02:21:40,135 --> 02:21:41,445
we're juggling that.

1778
02:21:41,465 --> 02:21:43,725
Please don't spend more money than we have access

1779
02:21:43,725 --> 02:21:45,405
to at the moment kind of phase.

1780
02:21:45,585 --> 02:21:48,475
So we're, We're trying to get this done.

1781
02:21:49,375 --> 02:21:51,995
So that's helpful. Thank you. Yep.

1782
02:21:52,575 --> 02:21:57,385
Any questions for installs? Wonderful.

1783
02:21:57,925 --> 02:22:00,265
So with that we have a motion and we have a second.

1784
02:22:01,125 --> 02:22:04,905
All those in favor of the motion on the table say aye. Aye.

1785
02:22:05,125 --> 02:22:06,125
Any opposed?

1786
02:22:07,055 --> 02:22:09,075
All right. And it, it's written in such a way

1787
02:22:09,075 --> 02:22:10,675
that it only requires the clerk

1788
02:22:10,695 --> 02:22:12,035
to sign on behalf of the body.

1789
02:22:12,135 --> 02:22:14,995
So it, we don't have a signature copy to go around. So.

1790
02:22:16,305 --> 02:22:16,655
Super.

1791
02:22:22,345 --> 02:22:25,445
Now we'll move on to upcoming business.

1792
02:22:27,355 --> 02:22:28,475
Anything that anybody would like

1793
02:22:28,475 --> 02:22:30,795
to see on the upcoming agenda?

1794
02:22:32,035 --> 02:22:33,875
I would just reiterate the request for a,

1795
02:22:33,995 --> 02:22:38,075
a public works overview, what's getting paved

1796
02:22:38,705 --> 02:22:42,125
when, what streets are closed, planning

1797
02:22:42,125 --> 02:22:43,925
to be closed when it's,

1798
02:22:43,985 --> 02:22:45,245
And if we could add into that,

1799
02:22:45,385 --> 02:22:48,365
if we could get an update on the O'Reilly building

1800
02:22:49,675 --> 02:22:50,645
Yeah. Warehouse.

1801
02:22:50,875 --> 02:22:52,525
Yeah. And the appeals process on that.

1802
02:22:52,635 --> 02:22:55,005
Yeah. For the Act two 50, right? Yeah.

1803
02:22:56,235 --> 02:22:58,625
There are a whole bunch of appeals as I, as I understand,

1804
02:22:58,765 --> 02:22:59,905
but part of a permit appeal

1805
02:23:00,005 --> 02:23:01,905
and then an act two 50 process and

1806
02:23:01,905 --> 02:23:03,745
Environmental court, right? Yeah.

1807
02:23:03,745 --> 02:23:05,745
Where we are in all of that. I'd just love to know.

1808
02:23:07,225 --> 02:23:09,595
All right. Question. Yes ma'am.

1809
02:23:09,995 --> 02:23:11,965
We had a parking lot Where

1810
02:23:12,655 --> 02:23:13,795
We Had a, we've had lots of parking,

1811
02:23:13,925 --> 02:23:15,155
We've had a parking lot full

1812
02:23:15,155 --> 02:23:17,395
of business this year. Metaphor.

1813
02:23:17,535 --> 02:23:19,075
Oh that parking a parking lot.

1814
02:23:19,395 --> 02:23:22,355
I was like, wait, are we talking about physical parking lot

1815
02:23:22,355 --> 02:23:23,875
Pulling up with housing, Sonya? I was

1816
02:23:23,875 --> 02:23:25,355
Like, wait, seminary street.

1817
02:23:25,625 --> 02:23:26,625
Nope.

1818
02:23:26,935 --> 02:23:29,155
So hopefully we can, I can look back

1819
02:23:29,155 --> 02:23:31,315
and find my notes if you don't have those.

1820
02:23:31,535 --> 02:23:36,195
And then the other thing I wanted to add to that is I spent

1821
02:23:37,195 --> 02:23:38,485
with Mr.

1822
02:23:38,815 --> 02:23:42,705
Deering a good amount of time last night at the BUSD meeting

1823
02:23:43,505 --> 02:23:47,785
because of the school, third failure of the school budget.

1824
02:23:48,005 --> 02:23:51,265
And I wonder if there's something that this body could do

1825
02:23:51,365 --> 02:23:54,105
to encourage more people to vote, to get out to vote.

1826
02:23:54,105 --> 02:23:56,425
They're going to have to obviously go for a fourth vote.

1827
02:23:57,245 --> 02:23:58,945
And so I bring it up

1828
02:23:58,945 --> 02:24:01,425
because there may be people that pay attention

1829
02:24:01,445 --> 02:24:02,945
to this, but not to that.

1830
02:24:03,045 --> 02:24:05,625
And so I think it might be helpful if we somehow get

1831
02:24:05,905 --> 02:24:08,545
involved, even if it's just to get more people to the polls.

1832
02:24:08,725 --> 02:24:12,145
So, and maybe we could just invite them in once they have a

1833
02:24:12,145 --> 02:24:15,785
budget approved to talk about the revised budget

1834
02:24:15,925 --> 02:24:20,345
or the, the new proposals so that we could weigh in on it

1835
02:24:20,365 --> 02:24:23,265
or give our stamp of approval or something. So

1836
02:24:23,825 --> 02:24:25,785
I could not agree with you more counselor as

1837
02:24:25,815 --> 02:24:27,385
that was my statement last night

1838
02:24:27,725 --> 02:24:30,785
to those everywhere, Mr. Manager.

1839
02:24:31,045 --> 02:24:33,705
So this with, with you guys approval, I,

1840
02:24:33,705 --> 02:24:35,945
I've already talked to is is the, the chair.

1841
02:24:36,055 --> 02:24:39,425
Greg Garrett. Garrett. So close. That was a good one.

1842
02:24:39,525 --> 02:24:40,985
I'm gonna give myself credit for that.

1843
02:24:41,825 --> 02:24:44,065
I, I spoke with Garrett today over at the library

1844
02:24:44,865 --> 02:24:46,345
'cause he's the assistant director over there

1845
02:24:47,325 --> 02:24:49,245
and I, you know, said,

1846
02:24:49,245 --> 02:24:50,525
is there anything we can help and all that.

1847
02:24:50,525 --> 02:24:51,685
And so, we'll with your approval,

1848
02:24:52,025 --> 02:24:55,245
if I can keep following up on that, we good.

1849
02:24:55,315 --> 02:24:57,165
Okay. And yeah,

1850
02:24:57,235 --> 02:24:58,525
he's like, I don't wanna talk about it right now.

1851
02:24:58,685 --> 02:25:01,285
I said that compare too fresh.

1852
02:25:02,015 --> 02:25:03,045
Would we be opposed

1853
02:25:03,045 --> 02:25:06,205
to having the superintendent come in to speak? Yeah,

1854
02:25:06,205 --> 02:25:08,685
They've come in, in the Past give her maybe, you know,

1855
02:25:08,685 --> 02:25:12,125
five or 10 minutes to speak on what she'd like to, and

1856
02:25:13,065 --> 02:25:15,125
My understanding was that Berry City is in

1857
02:25:15,125 --> 02:25:16,245
support of the last budget.

1858
02:25:16,995 --> 02:25:18,125
It's the last budget of last two.

1859
02:25:19,105 --> 02:25:23,430
But again, if, if there's a larger turning out out, maybe

1860
02:25:23,430 --> 02:25:25,185
that would help the entire section.

1861
02:25:25,335 --> 02:25:26,335
Okay. Good. Good.

1862
02:25:28,265 --> 02:25:30,885
One other thing that I wonder if we could add, I was,

1863
02:25:31,555 --> 02:25:35,725
I've heard a lot of chatter about the Seminary Street

1864
02:25:35,725 --> 02:25:39,405
project and especially regarding the street,

1865
02:25:39,625 --> 02:25:41,045
the way the street has changed,

1866
02:25:41,145 --> 02:25:43,565
people are very upset about the traffic change.

1867
02:25:44,545 --> 02:25:48,805
And so I know it's, I'm not suggesting I, I have no problem

1868
02:25:48,805 --> 02:25:51,845
with the traffic change, but if, is there an explanation

1869
02:25:51,865 --> 02:25:53,805
for why we reduce the amount of traffic?

1870
02:25:53,905 --> 02:25:55,325
And we don't have to discuss that now,

1871
02:25:55,325 --> 02:25:57,485
but what I'm saying is, could we have the conversation just

1872
02:25:57,485 --> 02:26:00,725
so people understand, like do we have to add infrastructure?

1873
02:26:00,905 --> 02:26:04,045
Is that why the sidewalk has been increased or

1874
02:26:04,465 --> 02:26:05,725
You mean the narrowing of the street?

1875
02:26:05,945 --> 02:26:10,005
Yes. Yeah. Because people are like, why did they take the,

1876
02:26:10,385 --> 02:26:13,605
you know, the separate parts of the, it's worked fine

1877
02:26:13,745 --> 02:26:16,485
and now it's narrower and just on and on and on.

1878
02:26:16,505 --> 02:26:19,165
And so I just wonder if we could, we don't have

1879
02:26:19,165 --> 02:26:21,285
to talk about it now, but as an upcoming business,

1880
02:26:21,715 --> 02:26:24,165
Just an overview of the seminary street department.

1881
02:26:24,665 --> 02:26:26,125
We could share with you all the stuff

1882
02:26:26,125 --> 02:26:27,725
that was discussed by the DRB.

1883
02:26:27,795 --> 02:26:30,605
Yeah. 'cause of course it has been through the public Yes.

1884
02:26:30,805 --> 02:26:31,885
Approval process. Yes. And

1885
02:26:32,265 --> 02:26:33,645
and we can, we can talk about the,

1886
02:26:34,325 --> 02:26:36,645
I just think it might be helpful so people can understand.

1887
02:26:37,685 --> 02:26:39,805
Because if some people are just like,

1888
02:26:40,105 --> 02:26:43,965
how did this get approved and through all of the proper

1889
02:26:43,965 --> 02:26:48,595
Chicken rolling, if you weren't paying attention,

1890
02:26:49,195 --> 02:26:51,435
I would just, I know, I know you don't wanna talk about it.

1891
02:26:51,545 --> 02:26:54,635
It's in, it's safer to make narrower streets.

1892
02:26:54,775 --> 02:26:58,395
That's double, double things. You don't

1893
02:26:58,395 --> 02:26:59,395
Need that.

1894
02:26:59,395 --> 02:27:00,715
You don't have to convince me. I just,

1895
02:27:00,985 --> 02:27:02,715
Just for anyone listening at home in wonder,

1896
02:27:02,775 --> 02:27:05,555
That's that's a huge part of the That's

1897
02:27:05,555 --> 02:27:06,555
Right.

1898
02:27:06,975 --> 02:27:09,075
And add and add green space. Yes.

1899
02:27:09,375 --> 02:27:12,435
In, in the center of an urban environment. Yes. There's, if

1900
02:27:12,435 --> 02:27:13,435
You're making houses.

1901
02:27:13,435 --> 02:27:16,475
So I think if we could look at maybe the, the some of the,

1902
02:27:16,535 --> 02:27:18,835
or include them in the packet or put them on the website

1903
02:27:18,835 --> 02:27:21,315
or something so that people could see like maybe what

1904
02:27:21,315 --> 02:27:23,435
that more finished product is gonna look like.

1905
02:27:23,715 --> 02:27:25,115
'cause right now it's just all dug up. And

1906
02:27:25,395 --> 02:27:28,755
I did have a meeting 10 days ago with the,

1907
02:27:28,755 --> 02:27:29,995
with representatives from the church.

1908
02:27:30,135 --> 02:27:32,555
Yes. And we went over the plan.

1909
02:27:32,715 --> 02:27:34,995
I showed them all the landscaping plans and,

1910
02:27:35,175 --> 02:27:37,875
and you know, they had a couple questions about

1911
02:27:38,435 --> 02:27:43,195
maintaining access, mostly being able to, with funerals,

1912
02:27:43,195 --> 02:27:45,835
being able to, to get coffins in and out.

1913
02:27:45,855 --> 02:27:49,595
We made sure everything had already been accommodated on the

1914
02:27:49,625 --> 02:27:53,355
plan, but to, to show them there's additional parking

1915
02:27:53,565 --> 02:27:54,635
right in front of there.

1916
02:27:54,785 --> 02:27:56,875
Well, to the side, along with a handicap space.

1917
02:27:56,875 --> 02:27:57,875
There's, there's a lot

1918
02:27:57,875 --> 02:28:00,155
of good improvements plus traffic calming.

1919
02:28:00,155 --> 02:28:02,115
Yeah. Associated with the narrower streets. Yeah.

1920
02:28:02,635 --> 02:28:04,035
I, I, I, no, no, no.

1921
02:28:04,145 --> 02:28:06,635
Have no doubt that it's going to be, and right

1922
02:28:06,635 --> 02:28:08,395
Now it's, you know, it's a dust pit

1923
02:28:08,575 --> 02:28:09,875
as they're finishing it up.

1924
02:28:10,055 --> 02:28:11,915
So, I mean it's, it's, yeah.

1925
02:28:12,215 --> 02:28:14,115
Not today. It's got a base code on it. Yep.

1926
02:28:14,305 --> 02:28:17,355
Yeah. Well there, the, the, the portion,

1927
02:28:17,615 --> 02:28:20,315
the infrastructure portion that has been the city's work

1928
02:28:21,385 --> 02:28:22,445
is nearing completion

1929
02:28:23,625 --> 02:28:28,485
and the construction actually is probably going

1930
02:28:28,485 --> 02:28:30,125
to start sometime in early November.

1931
02:28:30,705 --> 02:28:33,925
So. Great. Awesome. Thank

1932
02:28:33,925 --> 02:28:34,925
You.

1933
02:28:34,925 --> 02:28:36,205
Anything else for upcoming business?

1934
02:28:37,725 --> 02:28:39,585
All right, that we'll go to Round table

1935
02:28:39,765 --> 02:28:42,105
before we go to our executive session

1936
02:28:42,205 --> 02:28:44,185
for legal Councillor Hillgardner.

1937
02:28:44,345 --> 02:28:46,745
I do have a couple of things updates from

1938
02:28:46,745 --> 02:28:47,945
the Neighborly Berry committee.

1939
02:28:48,725 --> 02:28:51,585
One is that we will be present

1940
02:28:52,575 --> 02:28:54,065
with free cider

1941
02:28:54,065 --> 02:28:57,105
and donuts at the last farmer's market,

1942
02:28:57,755 --> 02:28:59,665
which is the 30th of September.

1943
02:28:59,665 --> 02:29:01,385
That's a Wednesday at Courier Park.

1944
02:29:02,385 --> 02:29:04,705
I think it runs from five 30 to seven.

1945
02:29:05,235 --> 02:29:07,505
We're hoping to see a lot of people

1946
02:29:07,765 --> 02:29:09,545
and answer questions about what we're doing

1947
02:29:09,725 --> 02:29:12,145
and give away lots of Donuts Insider

1948
02:29:12,245 --> 02:29:15,425
and get people to sign 'em up there to tell us their ideas

1949
02:29:15,525 --> 02:29:17,705
of things they'd like to see happen in Berry

1950
02:29:17,885 --> 02:29:20,745
and have opportunities for them to sign up

1951
02:29:20,745 --> 02:29:22,145
to volunteer to do some of them.

1952
02:29:22,925 --> 02:29:24,025
So that's going on.

1953
02:29:24,295 --> 02:29:29,265
There's also going to be a downtown city walking tour

1954
02:29:29,575 --> 02:29:34,345
with Russell Belding, who is a, he's done a lot

1955
02:29:34,345 --> 02:29:36,945
of research about the buildings downtown and has

1956
02:29:36,965 --> 02:29:38,065
and is very engaging.

1957
02:29:38,205 --> 02:29:40,105
And that will be on October the third.

1958
02:29:40,125 --> 02:29:41,625
And there'll be more information about,

1959
02:29:41,625 --> 02:29:42,945
there's some information about

1960
02:29:42,945 --> 02:29:45,985
that on the Barry Partnership web website.

1961
02:29:47,605 --> 02:29:50,625
And there'll be, I think there's a announcement

1962
02:29:50,625 --> 02:29:51,665
that will be going out

1963
02:29:51,665 --> 02:29:54,625
to Front Porch Forum sometime later this week for that.

1964
02:29:56,745 --> 02:29:59,085
So that's kind of what we are up to this fall

1965
02:29:59,665 --> 02:30:01,165
at the Neighborly bearing committee.

1966
02:30:03,445 --> 02:30:05,415
Counselor. Folks should go to Russell's talks.

1967
02:30:05,415 --> 02:30:07,455
He's great. He great. He's wonderful. He's wonderful.

1968
02:30:07,525 --> 02:30:09,015
Very, very engaging. Absolutely.

1969
02:30:09,015 --> 02:30:10,175
Second that, I have nothing else to pass

1970
02:30:10,675 --> 02:30:13,265
All Counselor Ruth here.

1971
02:30:14,945 --> 02:30:17,065
I just want everybody, including the council

1972
02:30:17,165 --> 02:30:18,625
and people watching to be positive.

1973
02:30:18,825 --> 02:30:20,825
'cause I do believe this is a rebirth

1974
02:30:20,885 --> 02:30:23,865
and bearing from the city manager to the roads,

1975
02:30:24,205 --> 02:30:25,305
to the infrastructure.

1976
02:30:27,015 --> 02:30:30,265
It's a lot of money, but it's well worth spending.

1977
02:30:30,845 --> 02:30:34,105
And if it's utilized properly under a business model

1978
02:30:34,215 --> 02:30:35,745
with loans and deferment,

1979
02:30:36,495 --> 02:30:38,745
Barry's gonna be something better than it was.

1980
02:30:38,845 --> 02:30:41,145
So that's pretty much all

1981
02:30:42,185 --> 02:30:43,555
Council pass.

1982
02:30:43,555 --> 02:30:45,275
Thank you. I

1983
02:30:45,275 --> 02:30:46,515
Forgot to say this during public

1984
02:30:46,515 --> 02:30:47,715
comment, so I'm gonna do it now.

1985
02:30:47,995 --> 02:30:50,315
Peter Anthony emailed me

1986
02:30:50,575 --> 02:30:53,475
and wanted to publicly thank the DPW director

1987
02:30:53,475 --> 02:30:56,915
and crew for support during the Saturday River cleanup from

1988
02:30:57,095 --> 02:30:59,365
the River Access

1989
02:30:59,365 --> 02:31:00,685
Very rivers collect Access,

1990
02:31:00,715 --> 02:31:03,285
very river collective access, anything collective.

1991
02:31:03,605 --> 02:31:05,205
I think it's Berry River Collective now. Yes.

1992
02:31:05,205 --> 02:31:06,325
Yeah. Very River Collective.

1993
02:31:06,325 --> 02:31:07,765
So they had a cleanup day

1994
02:31:08,065 --> 02:31:10,245
and they focused on the areas around Gunner Brook

1995
02:31:10,265 --> 02:31:11,365
and Stevens branch.

1996
02:31:11,705 --> 02:31:15,415
And there were lots of volunteers

1997
02:31:15,875 --> 02:31:19,565
and they, he just wanted to make sure that we knew

1998
02:31:19,565 --> 02:31:22,885
that they appreciated the support that the city gives them

1999
02:31:22,945 --> 02:31:25,165
for cleaning, actually taking care of the trash

2000
02:31:25,165 --> 02:31:28,565
that they pull out of the river or on the river banks.

2001
02:31:28,785 --> 02:31:31,205
So thank you for that. And I did participate in it.

2002
02:31:32,265 --> 02:31:34,645
It is always amazing to me the stuff that we can pull out.

2003
02:31:34,665 --> 02:31:38,245
And I think over the course of, they've been doing this

2004
02:31:38,245 --> 02:31:41,365
for several years, but they've basically done almost

2005
02:31:41,535 --> 02:31:42,805
everything that they could do.

2006
02:31:42,805 --> 02:31:44,685
And that's not to say that they can't go back now

2007
02:31:44,685 --> 02:31:49,125
and start over, but it's, they've done a lot of of sections

2008
02:31:49,185 --> 02:31:51,525
and so have slowly been working their way to,

2009
02:31:51,545 --> 02:31:53,485
to get everything done and yeah, it's,

2010
02:31:53,485 --> 02:31:55,245
they're doing some really good work. So

2011
02:31:55,775 --> 02:31:58,685
Would you say that was the Fer Rivers collective?

2012
02:31:59,125 --> 02:32:01,165
Fer Rivers, collective River Walk.

2013
02:32:02,025 --> 02:32:03,135
Would you like to give anything

2014
02:32:03,135 --> 02:32:04,415
For own table Madam Clerk?

2015
02:32:04,915 --> 02:32:06,855
No thank you. How about you Mr. Manager?

2016
02:32:07,635 --> 02:32:09,015
Not this time. All right.

2017
02:32:09,675 --> 02:32:12,855
So I had the wonderful pleasure

2018
02:32:12,955 --> 02:32:16,135
of being in the dunk tank on Saturday for the Granite Museum

2019
02:32:16,155 --> 02:32:17,575
to help raise some money for them.

2020
02:32:19,115 --> 02:32:21,815
It was fun. I got to be dunked several times.

2021
02:32:22,035 --> 02:32:25,975
It was $5 for one ball or five balls for 20 bucks.

2022
02:32:26,595 --> 02:32:28,975
So you actually had to pay in to dunk counselor during

2023
02:32:30,235 --> 02:32:32,455
my family did pay some money to dunk me.

2024
02:32:32,455 --> 02:32:34,695
And then we had some other community members come out.

2025
02:32:34,715 --> 02:32:39,135
It was fun. Got to do that with both Fire Chief Cushman

2026
02:32:39,235 --> 02:32:40,455
and Police Chief Fail.

2027
02:32:41,265 --> 02:32:44,095
Great opportunity. Also had the opportunity to talk

2028
02:32:44,095 --> 02:32:46,855
to Scott McLaughlin, the executive director, about a lot

2029
02:32:46,855 --> 02:32:48,575
of the things that are going on at the Granite Museum.

2030
02:32:49,435 --> 02:32:52,215
One of the biggest things that he was talking about was the,

2031
02:32:52,755 --> 02:32:54,535
the additional tours that they were able

2032
02:32:54,555 --> 02:32:56,175
to secure for October.

2033
02:32:57,395 --> 02:33:00,135
One of the biggest things that he had talked about was

2034
02:33:00,995 --> 02:33:03,215
the closing of the quarry was a restaurant

2035
02:33:03,215 --> 02:33:05,135
that many people had frequented.

2036
02:33:06,115 --> 02:33:10,215
So the lack of some more restaurants with higher capacity

2037
02:33:11,325 --> 02:33:14,375
seating can be a deterrent for some of the buses.

2038
02:33:15,275 --> 02:33:17,735
So that's the struggle that they're currently looking at,

2039
02:33:18,835 --> 02:33:20,415
you know, so hopefully we'll get another business

2040
02:33:20,415 --> 02:33:22,375
to go into the quarry and we'll get that fixed.

2041
02:33:24,155 --> 02:33:25,535
The BUSD budget vote.

2042
02:33:25,535 --> 02:33:28,495
As Councilor Spalding had said, we had a meeting last night,

2043
02:33:29,235 --> 02:33:31,535
the board had a meeting and we had a lot

2044
02:33:31,535 --> 02:33:34,775
of community members showing up VO voicing their support

2045
02:33:35,515 --> 02:33:36,815
and opposition as well.

2046
02:33:38,415 --> 02:33:39,495
I just wanna say that those

2047
02:33:39,495 --> 02:33:41,255
that have voted yes, continue to vote.

2048
02:33:41,275 --> 02:33:44,215
Yes. And those that have voted no, let's come together

2049
02:33:44,215 --> 02:33:47,055
and find out what we need to do to pass a budget

2050
02:33:48,155 --> 02:33:49,295
the fourth time around.

2051
02:33:50,115 --> 02:33:52,135
We need to get this done so we can move on

2052
02:33:52,915 --> 02:33:55,135
and the school can continue to operate

2053
02:33:55,275 --> 02:33:57,615
and look at next year instead of continuing

2054
02:33:57,615 --> 02:34:01,215
to look in the rear view mirror. So with that, I

2055
02:34:01,215 --> 02:34:02,215
Will more thing Mayor.

2056
02:34:02,215 --> 02:34:03,695
Yes sir. I guess Ms.

2057
02:34:04,085 --> 02:34:06,095
Copping just sent me a message says

2058
02:34:06,095 --> 02:34:07,615
that there's still a bunch

2059
02:34:07,615 --> 02:34:10,135
of river trash on Blackwell Street Bridge

2060
02:34:10,555 --> 02:34:14,455
and across from the old Venetian restaurant. Whoa. She's

2061
02:34:14,975 --> 02:34:15,975
A little bit dating herself.

2062
02:34:17,715 --> 02:34:19,805
That across from Beverage Baron. Yes, yes,

2063
02:34:19,985 --> 02:34:21,365
Yes. I did see that that

2064
02:34:21,365 --> 02:34:22,365
Morning.

2065
02:34:22,365 --> 02:34:22,885
I think that hasn't been picked up yet.

2066
02:34:23,105 --> 02:34:25,005
Direct, but that is that trash.

2067
02:34:25,425 --> 02:34:27,205
That's the building right next to Yikes.

2068
02:34:27,475 --> 02:34:29,725
Yeah, the Venetian restaurant. Ah, yes.

2069
02:34:29,785 --> 02:34:33,405
It was the, the buffet for Hot Grandeous Rendezvous.

2070
02:34:34,035 --> 02:34:36,725
It's a Chinese restaurant too, the

2071
02:34:37,185 --> 02:34:38,185
Bus.

2072
02:34:38,185 --> 02:34:39,125
I think they just haven't had a chance to pick it up,

2073
02:34:39,125 --> 02:34:40,485
but that's where we left it. So

2074
02:34:40,795 --> 02:34:41,795
I'll follow up on that.

2075
02:34:41,795 --> 02:34:45,565
Was it a beverage? What's the place that It's adjacent.

2076
02:34:46,275 --> 02:34:50,165
It's adjacent to Ess Stripes. No, it's, no it's Cata.

2077
02:34:50,785 --> 02:34:52,205
No, same side. It's,

2078
02:34:52,275 --> 02:34:54,605
well the river is across thing River's across

2079
02:34:54,605 --> 02:34:55,765
with junkets pile.

2080
02:34:56,025 --> 02:34:57,925
All the pile of stuff is across

2081
02:34:57,945 --> 02:34:58,945
The street.

2082
02:34:58,945 --> 02:35:00,085
So it's across from the old Venetian. How's that?

2083
02:35:00,235 --> 02:35:01,845
Yeah, I'll right across from the old

2084
02:35:02,045 --> 02:35:05,045
Venetian, just go to the Lakers.

2085
02:35:05,255 --> 02:35:07,925
Steve remembers exactly. Ha. Busy bubble.

2086
02:35:08,225 --> 02:35:13,065
You Lia say something like just drive

2087
02:35:13,065 --> 02:35:14,105
Down Main Street, you'll see

2088
02:35:15,165 --> 02:35:17,145
And look left down, left on the left.

2089
02:35:17,145 --> 02:35:18,345
Drive down Main Street. Street

2090
02:35:18,345 --> 02:35:19,345
In Blackwell.

2091
02:35:19,365 --> 02:35:20,425
That's, you'll find it.

2092
02:35:22,155 --> 02:35:24,375
And then there's also some on the Blackwell Bridge.

2093
02:35:25,205 --> 02:35:28,305
No, that is The thing. Kind of what? Okay.

2094
02:35:29,405 --> 02:35:32,145
And nevermind. I was trying to write down places. No,

2095
02:35:32,175 --> 02:35:33,905
It's all in that one spot. I don't,

2096
02:35:34,185 --> 02:35:35,185
I will learn the streets one day.

2097
02:35:35,305 --> 02:35:36,585
Actually, you know, that's a good question.

2098
02:35:36,785 --> 02:35:39,345
I, they worked at the Gunners brook. Gunners Brook.

2099
02:35:39,405 --> 02:35:40,945
And I don't know if there's a pile over

2100
02:35:40,945 --> 02:35:42,945
there 'cause I don't drive over there. So

2101
02:35:43,045 --> 02:35:44,665
On the other side of Venetian, no

2102
02:35:44,695 --> 02:35:46,065
Gunners Brook, that's on the other,

2103
02:35:46,065 --> 02:35:47,145
that's on like Brook Street.

2104
02:35:48,085 --> 02:35:49,745
That's like by the trash racks.

2105
02:35:49,745 --> 02:35:51,985
They, that's where they were going for the other,

2106
02:35:51,985 --> 02:35:53,105
another group was going

2107
02:35:53,165 --> 02:35:55,425
to trash re trash racks on Brook Street.

2108
02:35:55,645 --> 02:35:57,705
And I went to the Blackwell Street Bridge.

2109
02:35:57,965 --> 02:35:59,305
So we'll, we'll, we'll send people

2110
02:35:59,305 --> 02:36:00,385
out to check those. Yeah,

2111
02:36:00,655 --> 02:36:02,265
That they just, it, the trash I think

2112
02:36:02,265 --> 02:36:03,345
just needs to be picked up.

2113
02:36:04,285 --> 02:36:05,425
Got your first marching orders.

2114
02:36:06,455 --> 02:36:10,985
Yeah. First. All right.

2115
02:36:11,015 --> 02:36:15,185
With that, I need a motion to, we're going to have findings

2116
02:36:15,185 --> 02:36:16,865
for legal, for executive session.

2117
02:36:17,325 --> 02:36:21,505
So moved second. And there's no action, David. Okay.

2118
02:36:22,205 --> 02:36:25,505
So any discussion? All those in favor say aye. I.

2119
02:36:26,125 --> 02:36:27,705
Any opposed? Okay.

2120
02:36:27,705 --> 02:36:29,985
I'll need a motion to enter executive session.

2121
02:36:30,225 --> 02:36:34,115
I, we are going to include the treasurer.

2122
02:36:34,185 --> 02:36:35,275
Yeah, the manager.

2123
02:36:36,215 --> 02:36:38,755
That's, No, we don't want the clerk.

2124
02:36:39,015 --> 02:36:40,635
She, she's like, like, she's like, no,

2125
02:36:40,635 --> 02:36:43,115
I'm out all hold that objection. Hey, we got you.

2126
02:36:44,105 --> 02:36:45,675
Okay, so We take a couple minutes.

2127
02:36:45,965 --> 02:36:46,995
Would those in, do you Wanna

2128
02:36:46,995 --> 02:36:48,035
take a couple minutes before?

2129
02:36:48,105 --> 02:36:49,635
Well then we get a vote. Let's

2130
02:36:49,635 --> 02:36:50,675
just vote and then, okay.

2131
02:36:51,135 --> 02:36:52,675
So all those in

2132
02:36:52,675 --> 02:36:54,315
Favor of the motion as presented?

2133
02:36:55,055 --> 02:36:57,915
Aye a aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.

2134
02:36:57,915 --> 02:36:59,875
We have entered executive session. Thank you.

2135
02:36:59,885 --> 02:37:02,115
Thank you. And we'll take a moment to

2136
02:37:02,865 --> 02:37:03,865
Stop Mark.

2137
02:37:03,865 --> 02:37:06,275
Okay. What's actually got more?

2138
02:37:06,455 --> 02:37:11,365
So more room one.

2139
02:37:11,365 --> 02:37:13,885
Okay, so you're just wait until we're Yeah,

2140
02:37:14,445 --> 02:37:15,805
I like where you're like pointing at me

2141
02:37:15,865 --> 02:37:17,245
and I'm like right up again.

2142
02:37:17,245 --> 02:37:19,885
School budget. I've got a joiner we're assigned.

2143
02:37:20,025 --> 02:37:21,845
You got some ideas? Yep. Okay, good.

2144
02:37:22,445 --> 02:37:24,765
I can't wait to hear it. Oh, right. Join up there as well.

2145
02:37:25,215 --> 02:37:26,325
There were t. There were,

2146
02:55:21,455 --> 02:55:22,455
There you go.

2147
02:55:24,925 --> 02:55:27,265
Not quite. Oh, oh, oh. Sorry.

2148
02:55:39,925 --> 02:55:41,705
That's gonna happen quite a few times. Yeah.

2149
02:55:41,705 --> 02:55:45,065
Well, yeah, so a motion to exit executive session.

2150
02:55:45,405 --> 02:55:47,545
So moved second. All right. Any discussion?

2151
02:55:48,565 --> 02:55:52,265
We all those in favor say aye. Aye. All. Any opposed?

2152
02:55:52,775 --> 02:55:55,785
Okay, we have, we have exited executive session.

2153
02:55:56,245 --> 02:56:00,665
Motion to end the council meeting. Sure. Second.

2154
02:56:01,285 --> 02:56:04,625
Second. Any opposed to put?

2155
02:56:06,255 --> 02:56:10,145
Good job Michael. Thanks To go home and.