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This is the Tuesday, July 28th meeting

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of the Berry Town Select Board.

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I'll call this meeting to order if

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you'd all join me in the pledge.

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Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States,

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United States of America,

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Which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Have an agenda before us. Any changes to the agenda?

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Do you have any changes, Chris?

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I don't have any changes. Can you all hear me? Okay. I

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Wanna take that.

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I don't expect any guidance

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to be coming forward except what's in the existing

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document up to each.

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You mute yourself. So if it were me,

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I wouldn't have just score board numbers on it.

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That's David. I am going to mute him. I just mute.

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Muted. Okay.

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Right. No changes from the future. Entertain a motion.

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Motion to approve the agenda as presented.

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Second right. Motion is second. Those in favor?

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Aye. And we have an agenda.

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Consider approving the July 14th, 2026

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meeting minutes. Motion

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To apply to approve the July 14th meeting minutes

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as presented by the clerk with

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minor grammatical and spelling changes.

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Okay, I, I do have,

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should have talked with Tina about that.

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I do have some changes, but I'll have

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to explain to you what I'm after.

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Okay, that's fine. I'll give 'em to you after. All right.

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Motion in a second. All those in favor?

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Aye. Aye. Announcements.

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Who would like to take announcement? The announcement.

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I got 'em up

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By now.

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You should have received, or will soon receive your property

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tax bill in the mail.

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The first of four installments is due on or

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before August 17th.

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Sewer bills went in the mail on July 23rd.

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So you should have those shortly if you don't already.

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The first of two installments is due September 15th.

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An important reminder, postmark payments are no longer

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accepted as timely.

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All payments must be received by 4:30 PM on their due date.

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Or they will be considered late.

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Payments placed in the Dropbox

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after 4:30 PM on the due date will also be late.

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If you have any questions, please do not hesitate

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to contact the clerk's office at 8 0 2 4 7 9 9 3 9 1.

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Thank you Bob. And re is anybody here

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for something that is not on the agenda?

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Would be, sorry, I don't,

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I don't know who you are.

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I'm John Dennis, You're here

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for something that's on the agenda.

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I'm just here to observe and see if I

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wanna become part of all this.

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Talking to Katie and all that.

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Absolutely. Welcome all that. Enjoy. Cool.

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It's gotta be something drawn on you guys here, right?

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I don't know, individually Or collectively

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Of Community way,

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If we're allowed to discuss that

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Love of our community, that's what brings us here.

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That's a good answer right there.

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Responsive stewardship of it. Good moving forward.

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That's really what we collectively, I think are trying

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to guide the ship on a Sure. Staying path.

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Staying as it can be. Yes. All right, well, welcome.

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Welcome. So,

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Michael Miller never responds, so we're gonna move on

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and we have recognition of some EMS employees.

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A few weeks ago, David organized an awards night

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to celebrate tenure milestones

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and some special recognitions of the board.

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Thought it would be a great idea

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to acknowledge these achievements as well.

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And David has provided us information about each recipient.

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I spoke with him and he, these folks

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of these EMS folks have already either heard this or,

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and or received it.

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Some combination. So we're gonna have David give us the

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abbreviated version so that it's read into the record.

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Basically we have, I'll make sure

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that we introduce them first.

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We have Jackie Bombardi, WEMS, child Champion

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of the Year, Devin Ksky Lifesaver Award.

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Christina, did I pronounce that?

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Not here. Lifesaver Award.

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Tina Lapper, again, valedictorian of her paramedic class.

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Devin Ksky, 10 years of service with Berry Town EMS

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or he 30 years of service with Berry Town EMS

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and Chris Maloney.

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30 years of service with,

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With Berry Town.

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EMS Take it away.

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So Jackie's not with us at the moment.

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I don't know if she's gonna log on,

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but Jackie is our child care coordinator,

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EMS for children for EMS District six.

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And she does a lot with pediatric care.

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So you put her in for, this is a statewide award

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that's given out every year for, you know, across the state

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for child champions.

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They issue one each year.

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And Jackie was a recipient of this year's award. So, David,

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Can I interrupt just a moment.

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The camera is not panning tonight.

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Would you mind sitting where the manager would,

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that way you're seen as well as heard.

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Sorry. You're good. I

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Don't want false advertise.

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Yeah, we don't want that confusion

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To save any confusion.

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Alright, so I'll just read a little bit about what I wrote

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for Jackie and I'll do that for each person.

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So the state gave us this award to present her.

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So what I said was, Jackie, it was our honor

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to present Jackie with the Vermont EMS

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for Child Champion of the Year Award.

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Jackie serves as the District six pediatric care coordinator

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and as a paramedic with beartown EMS In both roles,

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she has become a tireless advocate for children, families

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and EMS providers entrusted with their care.

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She has dedicated herself to ensure

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that when a child experiences a medical emergency,

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the provider's responding or prepared, educated,

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and confident in delivering the

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highest level of care possible.

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Over the past year, Jackie's work has gone far

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beyond the expectations of her position.

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She's led trainings, attended wide educational programs

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and refreshers and continuously work

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to improve pediatric education across Vermont EMS District

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six, which is the central Vermont, Washington County,

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a little bit of Orange County area.

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She has helped agencies including Barry County EMS

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and Barry City Fire Chief Recognition is pediatric safe

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agencies strengthening the system that care

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for children throughout our communities.

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One example of Jackie's dedication stands out in particular,

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when a complex, a medically complex child entered our

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district, Jackie immediately stepped forward

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to coordinate care planning between EMS providers,

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medical directors, hospitals in the child's pediatrician.

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She spent countless hours developing care plans

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and training providers on advanced pediatric airway

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and ventilator management to ensure this child would receive

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seamless high quality care During emergencies.

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She extended that training to neighboring agencies,

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ensuring a, the entire response system was

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prepared for any emergency.

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This particular individual had Jackie's commitment

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to children extends beyond the ambulance and training room.

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She's personally purchased

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and distributed bike helmets to children in our communities

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because she understands that protecting children starts long

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before an emergency occurs.

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What makes Jackie truly exceptional is

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that she approaches every part of this work with compassion,

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humility, and unwavering commitment to do what is best

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for children and their families.

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She's constantly working behind the scenes to improve care,

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strengthen education and

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support providers throughout the district.

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Jackie represents the very best of Vermont EMS.

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Her work has directly improved pediatric readiness care

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provider confidence and outcomes

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in children across the region.

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So on behalf of Barry Town

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and the state of Vermont, we thank her

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for her care leadership, compassion tireless advocacy

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for children, and it was an honor for her to get the award

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Done.

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And statewide award you said? Yes. Congratulations Jackie.

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Congratulations. For sure.

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And then one of the things that you know,

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made this year a little bit special was that with the years

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of service that, you know, we gave out, there was one

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that is not listed,

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but I'll read it tonight, was Willis Seton also had a little

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over 20 years of service

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that I missed when I sent it to the manager.

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So collectively, we have five individuals

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that encompass a century of service to central Vermont

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that work for our organization.

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So it's pretty, pretty crazy to think about

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and one of 'em happens to be sitting right over there.

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So we presented Chris with a, with a 30 year award,

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and Chris has served Baytown EMS for over 30 years

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as an advanced emergency medical technician.

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And over that time, he is worked in several different

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capacities within our organization.

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He's always stepped up where needed in serving the community

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with professionalism and commitment and EMS.

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People often remember the big calls

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and dramatic moments when organizations are built on steady,

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dependable individuals

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who show up day after day, year after year.

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Chris is exactly the kind of person, this kind of person,

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a steady presence for this service, his coworkers

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and the countless patients he's cared for over his career.

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30 years of service in EMS presents tremendous sacrifice,

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dedication, and compassion.

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It means missed holidays, long nights, difficult calls,

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and an unwavering commitment to helping others

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during some of the worst times of their lives.

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Chris has given all of this

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to our community over three

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decades and to the town of Berry.

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And the town of Barry's become better because of it.

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Somehow though, all 30 of those years, Chris has managed

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to avoid becoming my permanent EMS partner.

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Whether that was through careful planning, good luck

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or survival instincts, he has fortunately been able

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to escape that particular luxury.

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I'd also like to recognize Chris's family.

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Jake's not here tonight. A career in EMS has never

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sacrificed and made alone behind every provider as a family

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who gives up holidays, dinners, weekends,

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sleep time together so that we can answer calls for others,

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their support makes career in this, this career possible,

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and they deserve the gratitude as well.

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Chris, on behalf of Beartown EMS, thank you

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for your 30 years of service, your dedication

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to this organization and the care

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you provided to our community.

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Well done.

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Chris, did you have something?

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Well, oh yes, I was gonna, then I decided I'd probably say

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that, but I just wanted to say that I've worked for

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with Chris that entire 30 years

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since he's been on Berry town EMS with the fire department

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and just, you know, his, his dedication,

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I've seen it firsthand in action myself

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and just, it's greatly appreciated and he's a great provider

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and a big asset to the town of air.

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Our meetings downstairs that we're having are nearly

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as entertaining without you, it's polite way to say it.

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Do you still have the briefcase? I do.

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That's what's left of it. It's coming apart.

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Gonna get passed on to Devin. I think

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Similarly, I can summarize it.

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Bert's not on, is he? No.

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Okay, so yeah, Excuse me.

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So Burt Heath, also over 30 years of service to the town

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of Barry Burt's been a constant presence

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with our organization, our community.

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Countless sat calls, long nights, difficult shifts, similar,

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you know, things that I I said about Chris,

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about, you know, their commitment.

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However, Bert had the unique challenge of serving

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as my EMS partner midway through his career,

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which meant he had to put up with me

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as a new or know-it-all.

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Critical care paramedic. Looking back now,

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I can appreciate just how patient

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and professional he was during that time.

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Like many experienced providers, Bert understood something

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that newer clinicians eventually learned.

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EMS is not just about knowledge

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and skill, it's about consistency, teamwork, compassion,

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and knowing how to care for people in difficult moments.

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Those are qualities that Bert demonstrates. Every day.

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Over 30 years, Bert has cared for countless members

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of our community during some

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of the hardest moments of their lives.

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While patients may not always remember every detail

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of their calls, they remember how they were treated.

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And Bert has always treated people with kindness,

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respect, and professionalism.

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Over 30 years in EMS is a credible,

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is an incredible accomplishment,

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and it reflects a lifetime of dedication and service.

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Few people truly understand the sacrifice that comes

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with this profession, and even fewer dedicate

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as much ti as much of their life to it.

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Again, I want to recognize Burt's family,

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my children at home for their sacrifice

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that he's made over those 30 plus years in his career.

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EMS careers are built on support from spouses, children,

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family and loved ones who give up holidays, dinners,

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weekends, nights, time together to serve us.

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So Burt, on behalf of Beartown, EMS, thank you

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for your 30 plus years of service, your partnership,

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your mentorship, and your commitment to this community.

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Thank you, Bert. Unfortunately, he could not be here.

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And I would also echo what I said about Chris.

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I've worked with Bert for that entire 30 years.

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But in addition to that, I also worked with Bert

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on the fire department early on.

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And again, the, the dedication for both of them

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for 30 years of service

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or more, really, it, I just can't say enough about,

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about Bert, Chris, or really any of the team

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Devin.

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We happen to have the luxury

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of his presence tonight with us.

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So Devin, I've got a couple things for and I

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and before we're recognizing Devon for 10 plus years

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of dedicated service to Baytown EMS

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as a critical care paramedic.

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Over the past decade, Devon has become an

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integral part of our organization.

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He served not only as an exceptional clinician,

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but as a supervisor, educator, mentor,

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and leader within our service.

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Whether it is patient care training, equipment readiness,

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simulation or support supporting our new providers,

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Devin consistently steps up

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and helps move our organization forward

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as a critical care paramedic.

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Devin has cared for some of the sickest

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and most critically ill patients in our region.

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He has been involved in countless high acuity calls

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and helped deliver outstanding care to patients during some

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of the worst moments of their lives.

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His calm demeanor, strong clinical judgment

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and commitment to excellence make him someone both patients

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and coworkers can rely on beyond the calls themselves.

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Devin has played a major role in developing the next

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generation of EMS providers through precepting training,

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onboarding, credentialing, he's helped shape the culture

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and clinical standards of beartown EMS.

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The impact of that work extends far beyond any single shift

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or particular patient encounter.

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And somehow in what some, in what may be one

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of his greatest accomplishments over the past 10 years.

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Devin has also avoided being my permanent partner in the MS.

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Whether that was intentional planning, strategic scheduling,

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or pure luck is defeat worthy of recognition on its own.

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I also want to recognize Devin's recognize

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and thank Devin's family career in EMS requires sacrifice

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not just from providers,

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but from the people who support them at home.

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Ms. Holidays interrupted dinner, sleep,

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endless hours away from home all

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and the career that Devin has had has only

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made possible from that support.

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So Devin, on behalf of Beartown, EMS Select board

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and the manager, I'd like to thank you for your 10 years

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of service leadership, your commitment to education,

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patient care, and everything you've done

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for this organization in our community.

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It's been a privilege to work alongside you

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and you, I didn't have the chance to give your plaque

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because you weren't there that night, but we have one

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and I have will stand for it. Can

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Can we do, can we do that in the front of the room?

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Yeah, yeah. They put the date you started.

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Not the date now. Not now.

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So we gotta get that fixed,

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but yes, we're supposed to hand you this and do this.

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Thanks. Okay.

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All right.

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Perfect. Thank you.

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Well, there'll be more and I'll get up again. All right.

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I also would like to echo those for Devin, I believe,

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I don't believe, I know I was,

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he probably doesn't remember this,

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but I was at Berry town EMS on his very first day.

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I think I was working on the phone system, so I got

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to meet You do remember that?

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You didn't realize you were also the fire chief?

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Yeah. Yeah. And, and so I got to meet him on day one and,

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and got to work with him as well

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before I moved on from the fire department.

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And again, Devon's professionalism

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and capabilities is our, our second to none

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and tremendous provider and,

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and great asset to the town

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Wants to join us.

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Alright, so I'll get to some other ones, but

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before Devon gets a call, so one of the other things

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that we, we've started doing a couple years ago is

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recognizing when our teams have

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good clinical, well not all we have good clinical outcomes,

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but when we, particularly when we get a call

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and a patient is in cardiac arrest

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and the team successfully resuscitates them

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and those patients are with us today because of it.

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So it's not a frequent occurrence

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that we get called the cardiac arrest.

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And it's an even rarer occurrence when those patients

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live to see another day.

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Given the rural nature of Vermont's healthcare

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setting, the response times.

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So each year we, we recognize those crews

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and so we give out a certificate in a little pin that the,

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the providers get and the patient gets.

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So I'll just read this one.

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It's a certificate accommodation lifesaver award.

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This one is prevent presented to Devin Ksky as award

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as a result of actions to save a human life that would

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otherwise, that would have

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otherwise expired without immediate intervention

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through the use of early defibrillation

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and advanced cardiac life support.

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So earlier this year, Devon

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and his partner were called out to a

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medical emergency.

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And as Devon's partner, let's say it, they arrived on scene

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and for whatever reason,

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through his judgment experience, spiny senses,

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Devin saw the presentation of the scene

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and immediately started hauling all

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of the equipment out of the truck.

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And his partner's like, what are you doing?

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And he's like this, you know,

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this doesn't seem vibes, vibes.

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The door was open. Yes.

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And they got in the house and the patient was in cardiac

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arrest, didn't have a pulse, wasn't breathing.

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They resuscitated the patient

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and the patient is alive today because of their actions.

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So

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I'll read the other one, get to that point.

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So Devin, so fun fact, this is not Devin's first

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of these and probably won't be his last

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about lost floor.

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So Devin got one of these last year as well, I believe.

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I think last year was the year before.

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Oh, last

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year here.

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Your done. Perfect. Thank you.

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Collection of those pins gone. I have two now.

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I think the other one is we just started doing it.

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I, yeah, these are new. We just started doing

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this in the last two years.

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So Devin's partner that day was Christina Lapper.

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So Christina likewise is presented

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with a certificate accommodation

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and is awarded as a result of actions to save a human life

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that would otherwise expire without immediate intervention

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through the use of early defibrillation

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or advanced cardiac life support.

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So I'll give that to Christina. Christina, yes. Thanks.

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The dynamic duo.

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I'm almost done. Okay. Good stuff. Yeah.

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Yes, this is good stuff.

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This is the most you've talked since I've known

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you without asking for money.

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Todd, you here you are.

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A a seven is the you one item Short?

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Yes, it's gonna get expensive.

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Wait until the next agenda item.

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This, all this talking is about to get expensive.

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My talk is not cheap.

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Alright, so

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another long tenured employee who didn't make it

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with us tonight, but Willis Eaton has actually

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rolling up on 24 years.

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We just started doing this

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to recognize long tenured employees.

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So he, he'll we started, we'll give him a 20 now

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and a 30 in a few years.

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So Willis has served Beartown EMS for more than 20 years

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as an advanced emergency medical technician.

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Over the course of his career, Willis has been a dependable,

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steady presence within our organization through thousands

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of calls, long nights, challenging situations.

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In ever-changing world of EMS, he has remained committed

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to serving both his community

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and his coworkers with profession,

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professionalism, dedication.

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Willis has care. Willis has cared for countless patients

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during some of the most difficult times in their lives.

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Like many experienced providers,

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he understands the job is not about medical skills,

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not always about medical skills.

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A calm presence, calm under pressure, treating people

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with dignity and compassion and showing up every

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single day ready to help others.

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Those qualities have defined Willis throughout his career,

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unlike some others being recognized tonight.

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Willis also has had the fortunate experience

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and true honor of being my full-time

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EMS partner for a couple of years.

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Somehow, despite that challenge, he continued to come

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to work, maintain his professionalism,

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and build a successful career here.

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That alone probably qualifies him for some additional award.

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Over 20 years in EMS represents an incredible

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commitment to public safety.

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It means miss holidays interrupt family time sacrifice.

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People outside of this profession never really fully

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understand those sacrifices,

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but everyone in the room understands what that level

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of dedication truly means.

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I want to recognize Willis' family for their support

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because without their support, support of his spouse,

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children, family members, loved ones who've sacrificed their

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time so Willis can answer calls to service community,

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their support and understanding is always an essential part

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of a career like Willis is.

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And they deserve the gratitude as well.

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So on behalf of the town of Barry, Barry town, EMS,

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the board, the manager, I'd like to thank Willis

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for more than 20 years of service, his partnership

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and dedication to this organization

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and the caries provided to our community.

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Thank you, Willis. Yes,

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Thank you Willis.

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And,

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And I just want to chime in there too.

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I didn't work as closely with Willis,

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but I certainly have in the past

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and another just incredible provider that we are fortunate

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to have here at the Town Berry.

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So thank him for his long tenured service

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and looking forward to him achieving that 30 year milestone.

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Absolutely.

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And thank you Mr.

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Manager and the board for recognizing our staff

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and all the support you've given us.

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We

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Do, we are very fortunate here in Berry Town.

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We do have very dedicated EMS personnel.

524
00:25:26,905 --> 00:25:31,085
We have a top-notch service every time somebody from the

525
00:25:31,085 --> 00:25:35,665
state, or I forget her name

526
00:25:35,855 --> 00:25:39,925
from the hospital that runs the,

527
00:25:40,505 --> 00:25:41,925
she retired Dr.

528
00:25:42,225 --> 00:25:44,805
Dr. Stein. Dr. Stein. Yes. Thank you.

529
00:25:46,185 --> 00:25:49,045
You know, Dr. Stein had very kind words for EMS.

530
00:25:49,105 --> 00:25:51,845
So by all means, thank you.

531
00:25:52,265 --> 00:25:54,325
You know, Jackie, Devin, Christina,

532
00:25:56,235 --> 00:25:59,835
Chris Willis, thank you all very much.

533
00:26:00,055 --> 00:26:02,565
And as, as well as the rest of the group.

534
00:26:03,465 --> 00:26:06,205
One of those things where, glad

535
00:26:06,205 --> 00:26:07,885
that you have a good one, but you hope you never need it.

536
00:26:10,605 --> 00:26:11,605
Fortunately

537
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,315
Me, Mr.

538
00:26:19,315 --> 00:26:22,145
Chair. Absolutely. David, how many years have you got in

539
00:26:25,185 --> 00:26:26,185
12?

540
00:26:27,355 --> 00:26:28,355
Think about that for a minute.

541
00:26:30,735 --> 00:26:33,485
Thank you all devotion, your dedication

542
00:26:34,105 --> 00:26:35,445
to the residents of very town.

543
00:26:36,685 --> 00:26:40,485
I know Devon is gonna use this against me, but you guys

544
00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:42,925
and guys are the very best.

545
00:26:43,905 --> 00:26:47,485
We are very proud. You represent Berry Town

546
00:26:48,265 --> 00:26:50,365
and you take such good care of our residents.

547
00:26:50,365 --> 00:26:53,925
We're very fortunate, you know, with a 94-year-old father,

548
00:26:54,675 --> 00:26:57,245
I've had, you know, a few trips to the house

549
00:26:58,225 --> 00:27:01,405
to help my dad up or take him to the hospital.

550
00:27:01,585 --> 00:27:04,085
So we're very appreciative of it.

551
00:27:04,585 --> 00:27:08,095
And just don't be too hard on me, would you, Devin?

552
00:27:08,115 --> 00:27:12,055
Let me get in there. Thank you Paul.

553
00:27:13,045 --> 00:27:14,865
And I would like to just echo that sentiment.

554
00:27:14,945 --> 00:27:17,505
I, I don't have words so put to it,

555
00:27:19,085 --> 00:27:21,905
really capture the essence of what I wanna say.

556
00:27:21,965 --> 00:27:23,225
But this,

557
00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:27,425
this award is reflection on your accomplishments.

558
00:27:27,425 --> 00:27:28,545
It has nothing to do with this board.

559
00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:30,905
So I don't want the the board taking

560
00:27:31,005 --> 00:27:32,105
any thunder away from you.

561
00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:34,985
We are representative of the community

562
00:27:34,985 --> 00:27:37,705
and I can tell you wholeheartedly

563
00:27:37,705 --> 00:27:39,785
that there's a tremendous amount of appreciation.

564
00:27:40,405 --> 00:27:42,865
And there's a, also, the other side

565
00:27:42,865 --> 00:27:46,065
of it is probably some lack of appreciation at times just

566
00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:49,265
because people don't experience the level of service that

567
00:27:49,845 --> 00:27:53,185
our EMS service provides, thankfully for them.

568
00:27:53,865 --> 00:27:56,425
But anyone that has had the worst day of their life,

569
00:27:56,605 --> 00:27:58,425
and I, you know, David repeated that over

570
00:27:58,425 --> 00:28:01,465
and over again, knows you very well

571
00:28:01,885 --> 00:28:05,425
and remembers the encounter for the rest of their lives.

572
00:28:05,595 --> 00:28:08,225
These are traumatic, often very traumatic events

573
00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:09,745
that happened to individuals.

574
00:28:09,745 --> 00:28:13,145
And you are the, the front of that response.

575
00:28:13,285 --> 00:28:15,625
You are the, the guardian angels

576
00:28:15,625 --> 00:28:17,305
or the saving grace that comes in and,

577
00:28:17,565 --> 00:28:19,585
and manages a situation that is out

578
00:28:19,585 --> 00:28:22,145
of most people's control at the time it's happening.

579
00:28:22,205 --> 00:28:24,805
And, and from the patient

580
00:28:24,945 --> 00:28:26,485
and family perspective, I don't

581
00:28:27,065 --> 00:28:28,715
know if you always appreciate how much

582
00:28:28,715 --> 00:28:29,995
of an impact that has on people.

583
00:28:30,135 --> 00:28:31,755
So keep that in mind.

584
00:28:32,055 --> 00:28:34,435
And I also know that there's a tremendous emotional toll

585
00:28:34,435 --> 00:28:37,515
to you as providers in a lot of these circumstances

586
00:28:37,585 --> 00:28:39,755
that you have to carry well beyond the

587
00:28:40,475 --> 00:28:41,875
clocking out of the, your shift.

588
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:44,155
So I don't wanna lose sight of that either.

589
00:28:44,535 --> 00:28:47,195
All I can say is thank you very much for everything you do.

590
00:28:47,195 --> 00:28:48,515
Thank you for bettering yourselves.

591
00:28:48,515 --> 00:28:51,235
Thank you for always looking for ways to improve the system,

592
00:28:51,235 --> 00:28:52,715
whether it be administratively

593
00:28:52,775 --> 00:28:54,755
or professionally or medically.

594
00:28:55,375 --> 00:28:58,555
And once we wrap this all up, I would love

595
00:28:58,555 --> 00:28:59,795
to just check everyone's hand

596
00:28:59,795 --> 00:29:01,075
before they depart for the evening.

597
00:29:01,895 --> 00:29:03,755
And then they can get, maybe do a group photo.

598
00:29:03,755 --> 00:29:05,235
Because again, I want to thank you.

599
00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:06,395
I don't want to sit up here

600
00:29:06,395 --> 00:29:09,755
and be like, oh, the board gave you an award

601
00:29:09,775 --> 00:29:11,195
or something, or David gave you an award.

602
00:29:11,195 --> 00:29:12,875
It has nothing to do with us. It has to do with

603
00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:14,275
what you do in the field every single day.

604
00:29:14,455 --> 00:29:15,795
We didn't do anything. No.

605
00:29:16,215 --> 00:29:19,235
And just lucky enough to have you other than trying

606
00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,515
to support you in the ways that we can.

607
00:29:20,535 --> 00:29:23,245
But it's not, you know, it's not in the field,

608
00:29:23,245 --> 00:29:24,485
it's not in these situations.

609
00:29:24,515 --> 00:29:25,925
It's buying the right equipment

610
00:29:25,925 --> 00:29:27,245
and providing the right training and

611
00:29:27,625 --> 00:29:29,965
and making sure that you have the resources you need

612
00:29:29,965 --> 00:29:31,885
to do the, the best job you possibly can.

613
00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:36,085
There. I've done that right off the cuff.

614
00:29:41,845 --> 00:29:43,285
What's that? Is It segue for the next

615
00:29:43,955 --> 00:29:45,205
Yeah, absolutely.

616
00:29:45,225 --> 00:29:46,245
I'm building it up for our

617
00:29:46,245 --> 00:29:48,535
company. Do you have anything Tracy?

618
00:29:49,015 --> 00:29:50,695
I can't top that. I, yes I

619
00:29:50,695 --> 00:29:51,695
Can't either.

620
00:29:51,695 --> 00:29:52,175
Grateful for the service. Great.

621
00:29:52,205 --> 00:29:53,455
Glad to have the team that we have.

622
00:29:55,005 --> 00:29:56,925
I have never personally been on the receiving end of it,

623
00:29:56,985 --> 00:29:58,965
but between family and extended family

624
00:29:59,025 --> 00:30:03,885
and close friends got at least, at least that many

625
00:30:03,885 --> 00:30:07,115
that were, that were to another day.

626
00:30:07,615 --> 00:30:10,565
So I definitely have an appreciation for what they do.

627
00:30:13,025 --> 00:30:16,285
You're not opposed. Absolutely say congratulations

628
00:30:16,305 --> 00:30:18,205
and maybe everyone could get up for a, just a photo

629
00:30:18,205 --> 00:30:22,605
with David because he's really the need us,

630
00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:24,285
the rapport or the

631
00:30:26,995 --> 00:30:28,685
here you today.

632
00:30:29,085 --> 00:30:31,605
I don't necessarily need to be. Thank you for your leader.

633
00:30:31,775 --> 00:30:33,725
Thank you. Emily. Would you mind? I

634
00:30:33,725 --> 00:30:35,005
Just gonna say I can take you too much.

635
00:30:35,225 --> 00:30:37,005
Rachel. Rachel. Christine's not here. Yes.

636
00:30:38,385 --> 00:30:40,885
No, that's fine. You or it's fine. Appreciate.

637
00:30:42,315 --> 00:30:43,315
Nice to meet you.

638
00:30:44,585 --> 00:30:48,455
Chair it an hour to Yes. I wasn't

639
00:30:48,605 --> 00:30:49,605
Picture.

640
00:30:49,605 --> 00:30:50,135
I know we were gonna do a photo.

641
00:31:00,355 --> 00:31:01,495
You guys wanna sprinkle in?

642
00:31:01,505 --> 00:31:04,175
Stick everybody

643
00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:08,855
there this

644
00:31:08,855 --> 00:31:09,855
Way.

645
00:31:11,195 --> 00:31:15,015
The TV behind us. The manager us that. Wait.

646
00:31:15,015 --> 00:31:16,495
Yeah, if we're on the outside we, they can

647
00:31:19,475 --> 00:31:21,095
My mind Get everyone. Tina.

648
00:31:21,975 --> 00:31:24,805
I got everybody now Guys says it's good.

649
00:31:28,315 --> 00:31:29,435
I got three. Good.

650
00:31:30,805 --> 00:31:32,795
Thank you. All my word out of it.

651
00:31:32,795 --> 00:31:35,395
It's still a photo, right? Yes. Thank you.

652
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:37,835
Thank you very much everyone and I really do mean that.

653
00:31:39,215 --> 00:31:40,475
So very appreciative.

654
00:31:40,625 --> 00:31:41,835
Feel safe. Thank you.

655
00:31:42,205 --> 00:31:43,755
Thank you. Thank you

656
00:31:43,755 --> 00:31:45,195
for taking time outta your night to come.

657
00:31:45,565 --> 00:31:49,475
Thank you. With us now we

658
00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:50,595
got the skids greased.

659
00:31:50,745 --> 00:31:54,755
Yeah. So everything's greased up. You are lucky.

660
00:31:54,755 --> 00:31:55,395
It's budgeted.

661
00:31:59,575 --> 00:32:02,665
Well we now we will consider awarding the purchase

662
00:32:02,665 --> 00:32:05,425
of our FY 29 ambulance.

663
00:32:07,045 --> 00:32:09,995
Given the sufficient lead time of approximately 24 months

664
00:32:09,995 --> 00:32:10,995
to receive an ambulance.

665
00:32:11,225 --> 00:32:12,875
It's time to consider ordering the ambulance

666
00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:17,385
for the FY 29 budget long lead time

667
00:32:17,505 --> 00:32:19,985
and past challenges in sourcing cab

668
00:32:19,985 --> 00:32:21,345
and chassis as well as a need

669
00:32:21,345 --> 00:32:23,025
for continuity within our existing fleet.

670
00:32:24,945 --> 00:32:28,585
Director Danforth is requesting sole source, source

671
00:32:29,185 --> 00:32:30,225
purchase of the ambulance.

672
00:32:30,725 --> 00:32:33,105
And it does align with our equipment replacement plan.

673
00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:35,865
So take it away. Yeah.

674
00:32:35,965 --> 00:32:38,985
So this will be our FY 29. So scheduled

675
00:32:39,045 --> 00:32:42,885
For delivery July, August of 2028.

676
00:32:43,175 --> 00:32:47,085
Start of our FY 29 period in line with past years

677
00:32:48,265 --> 00:32:49,485
trying to stay ahead of the curve,

678
00:32:49,585 --> 00:32:52,045
not get ourselves in a situation where thanks everybody.

679
00:32:52,225 --> 00:32:55,725
Yes. Where we have a gap in our replacement cycle,

680
00:32:57,325 --> 00:32:58,885
I recommend a sole source purchase

681
00:32:58,955 --> 00:33:01,525
through northeastern rescue vehicles.

682
00:33:01,905 --> 00:33:03,645
And the manufacturer is medics

683
00:33:04,245 --> 00:33:05,605
specialty vehicles in elk car, Indiana

684
00:33:06,665 --> 00:33:08,845
for a Ford E four 50 type

685
00:33:08,845 --> 00:33:11,125
three a hundred sixty six inch box.

686
00:33:12,515 --> 00:33:16,005
Part of the reasons for that are it is identical

687
00:33:16,575 --> 00:33:20,805
other than newer or new identical to our existing fleet.

688
00:33:21,425 --> 00:33:24,845
Our existing box fleet of our critical care ambulances

689
00:33:24,845 --> 00:33:26,805
or specialty care transport qualified

690
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:28,285
ambulances are all the same.

691
00:33:28,955 --> 00:33:33,075
All six of them are type three E four 50 medics,

692
00:33:33,075 --> 00:33:34,155
1 66 chassis.

693
00:33:34,155 --> 00:33:35,355
The cabinets are all in the same place.

694
00:33:35,375 --> 00:33:36,475
The equipment's all in the same place.

695
00:33:36,495 --> 00:33:38,715
So for continuity of care in the dark

696
00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:40,435
in critical situations,

697
00:33:40,455 --> 00:33:42,515
our providers can reach and know what they're grabbing.

698
00:33:44,435 --> 00:33:46,755
I don't believe there's any benefit to going out to bid.

699
00:33:46,885 --> 00:33:49,275
We've had, when I look around the state at other prices,

700
00:33:49,615 --> 00:33:52,835
we have very good pricing over the last five years we've

701
00:33:52,995 --> 00:33:53,995
purchased these ambulances

702
00:33:54,575 --> 00:33:57,755
and the, the minimal increases year to year

703
00:33:58,825 --> 00:34:00,675
have have been sustainable.

704
00:34:00,855 --> 00:34:03,195
So that's

705
00:34:04,385 --> 00:34:05,795
Approximately 3%.

706
00:34:05,985 --> 00:34:07,275
Yeah. I think is what it was.

707
00:34:07,295 --> 00:34:12,235
So, well within, within reason. And we started doing this

708
00:34:14,905 --> 00:34:16,985
A year ago. Yeah. Yeah.

709
00:34:17,245 --> 00:34:19,505
As a result of COVID because we couldn't get the cab

710
00:34:20,695 --> 00:34:23,495
chassis part of the, the vehicle

711
00:34:23,755 --> 00:34:25,775
and that delayed the replacement of a couple

712
00:34:27,085 --> 00:34:30,105
and just about out of that now.

713
00:34:30,525 --> 00:34:33,625
Yep. We just, yeah, we're, we we're now buying one instead

714
00:34:33,625 --> 00:34:35,985
of the, when we were back buying two to catch up

715
00:34:36,005 --> 00:34:37,665
and supplementing here and there.

716
00:34:37,965 --> 00:34:39,425
And Northeastern's been a great partner,

717
00:34:41,125 --> 00:34:45,545
as you remember last year we had an engine issue

718
00:34:45,545 --> 00:34:47,505
with an ambulance that was rotating out of the fleet

719
00:34:47,505 --> 00:34:49,665
and they pushed our delivery up four months

720
00:34:49,665 --> 00:34:53,025
to get us the new one so we wouldn't be down in numbers.

721
00:34:53,165 --> 00:34:55,545
So they like, I can't speak great.

722
00:34:55,805 --> 00:34:57,145
You know, any better about them.

723
00:34:57,145 --> 00:34:58,145
They've been a great partner

724
00:34:59,005 --> 00:35:00,945
and they're there if we need them.

725
00:35:01,505 --> 00:35:03,205
And I don't ever recall having any issues

726
00:35:03,205 --> 00:35:04,845
with any warranty stuff that we've had

727
00:35:04,905 --> 00:35:06,485
or always been responsive.

728
00:35:07,905 --> 00:35:12,095
So if this pretty much standard practice

729
00:35:12,155 --> 00:35:15,455
for us at this stage of the game as we're starting to do

730
00:35:15,455 --> 00:35:20,175
with DPW and these

731
00:35:20,175 --> 00:35:21,375
cruisers aren't really an issue

732
00:35:21,475 --> 00:35:25,005
but Oh, the flavor

733
00:35:25,025 --> 00:35:27,165
of the board be, I just have a quick question. Sure,

734
00:35:27,635 --> 00:35:28,635
Sure.

735
00:35:28,635 --> 00:35:29,845
With, I

736
00:35:29,845 --> 00:35:32,285
Mean We all know how much busier

737
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:34,245
that conversation multiple times,

738
00:35:34,985 --> 00:35:38,875
how is the mileage on ambulances?

739
00:35:40,115 --> 00:35:43,315
I know we had transport van should help.

740
00:35:44,145 --> 00:35:45,935
Maybe not substantially, but it should help.

741
00:35:46,675 --> 00:35:48,975
But I'm just wondering how your mileage on your

742
00:35:49,765 --> 00:35:52,095
It's been good and, and the transport van has eaten

743
00:35:52,115 --> 00:35:53,615
up the excess mileage.

744
00:35:53,615 --> 00:35:55,175
We are up close

745
00:35:55,175 --> 00:35:57,295
to 50,000 miles a year from three years

746
00:35:57,295 --> 00:35:58,415
ago across the fleet.

747
00:35:58,955 --> 00:36:01,895
And the transport van that we've had for

748
00:36:02,965 --> 00:36:05,665
almost nine months has 37,000 miles on it.

749
00:36:05,765 --> 00:36:08,945
So it's eating, it's eating, which is cheaper to replace.

750
00:36:10,205 --> 00:36:11,905
So it's cheaper to it.

751
00:36:11,925 --> 00:36:13,785
The overall cost of that unit is less.

752
00:36:13,925 --> 00:36:16,145
So that's, that's taken the load off

753
00:36:16,145 --> 00:36:18,185
so we can maintain this one a year purchase

754
00:36:18,185 --> 00:36:19,545
of the more expensive apparatus.

755
00:36:20,085 --> 00:36:22,745
And, and what did we set up for a replacement on that

756
00:36:24,955 --> 00:36:29,935
We can talk about that We can buy, okay, we can buy

757
00:36:31,315 --> 00:36:33,655
two of, almost buy two of those for one.

758
00:36:34,425 --> 00:36:36,285
We can buy three of those for every two of these.

759
00:36:37,225 --> 00:36:39,555
Yep. So, But then if you

760
00:36:39,685 --> 00:36:40,915
7,009

761
00:36:40,915 --> 00:36:43,795
Months gas and maintenance and all that, it's probably

762
00:36:44,585 --> 00:36:45,915
Four tires instead of six.

763
00:36:46,465 --> 00:36:49,155
Fuel mileage is almost twice as much

764
00:36:50,755 --> 00:36:54,335
and it's observing more important thing that I,

765
00:36:54,495 --> 00:36:56,775
I don't wanna lose sight of is preserving the fully

766
00:36:57,175 --> 00:37:00,055
functioning ambulance for critical emergency calls rather

767
00:37:00,055 --> 00:37:02,575
than on a transport to Boston or something.

768
00:37:02,575 --> 00:37:05,655
Which is, that's like, that's the underlying crux

769
00:37:05,655 --> 00:37:08,655
for me every time it's like something's happening in town

770
00:37:08,655 --> 00:37:10,095
that needs a full package.

771
00:37:10,235 --> 00:37:12,415
We want the full package. It's keeping the critical

772
00:37:12,415 --> 00:37:15,335
paramedics in town and you know, not out on those runs

773
00:37:15,355 --> 00:37:16,855
and it's, you know, we're ap

774
00:37:16,965 --> 00:37:19,055
appropriately applying our resources.

775
00:37:19,135 --> 00:37:20,415
I hope that's our goal.

776
00:37:20,675 --> 00:37:22,215
So if we, and the other side

777
00:37:22,215 --> 00:37:23,375
of it, it's not just about the vehicle.

778
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,655
If, if we had an ambulance that was on a long

779
00:37:26,545 --> 00:37:29,105
distance transport and we had to call a crew in

780
00:37:29,165 --> 00:37:32,425
that's additional expense to the town just

781
00:37:32,445 --> 00:37:34,665
to purely provide coverage, we might call them in

782
00:37:34,665 --> 00:37:35,825
and they may never leave the station.

783
00:37:37,315 --> 00:37:41,855
So, so as those benefits is far beyond just the vehicle,

784
00:37:43,905 --> 00:37:44,905
Well, Mr.

785
00:37:44,905 --> 00:37:45,715
Chair, I'll, I'll make a motion

786
00:37:45,745 --> 00:37:48,195
that we authorize the sole source purchase

787
00:37:48,195 --> 00:37:52,995
of a medics type three me 1 66 ambulance built

788
00:37:53,015 --> 00:37:55,715
on a Ford E four 50 chassis for the price

789
00:37:55,715 --> 00:37:59,915
of $189,655 from Northeastern

790
00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:02,435
Rescue vehicles in Syracuse, New York.

791
00:38:02,815 --> 00:38:04,675
The sole source purchase is justified due

792
00:38:04,675 --> 00:38:06,275
to our longstanding relationship with the dealer

793
00:38:06,335 --> 00:38:09,355
who can provide the same ambulance cab chassis

794
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,395
and body to match the existing fleet.

795
00:38:11,605 --> 00:38:14,995
Given the favorable, favorable price, limited stock

796
00:38:14,995 --> 00:38:16,075
of this specialty vehicle

797
00:38:16,175 --> 00:38:18,035
and poor delivery options, it's unlikely

798
00:38:18,035 --> 00:38:19,315
that biding would provide any

799
00:38:19,315 --> 00:38:20,755
competitive advantage for the town.

800
00:38:22,385 --> 00:38:26,055
I believe second that Alright, have a motion

801
00:38:26,155 --> 00:38:27,775
to second any conversation.

802
00:38:30,055 --> 00:38:30,715
Thanks from

803
00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:37,335
Mr. Su? Nope,

804
00:38:37,795 --> 00:38:38,795
Mr.

805
00:38:38,795 --> 00:38:40,575
I would agree with everything that David said

806
00:38:40,595 --> 00:38:41,735
and it's in my notes

807
00:38:41,835 --> 00:38:44,295
and we've had a great partnership with Northeastern

808
00:38:44,435 --> 00:38:48,615
and having these standardized emergency vehicles

809
00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:51,015
is makes a lot of sense

810
00:38:51,355 --> 00:38:53,735
and I've seen it, you know, firsthand myself

811
00:38:54,155 --> 00:38:56,415
and I wholeheartedly support it.

812
00:38:59,665 --> 00:39:03,685
Do I have, I have, I guess we'll don't run off.

813
00:39:03,765 --> 00:39:04,765
I have one question for you

814
00:39:04,765 --> 00:39:06,645
after semi-related

815
00:39:08,835 --> 00:39:10,015
We did, I didn't see that.

816
00:39:11,965 --> 00:39:14,625
So if there's no further conversation

817
00:39:15,965 --> 00:39:17,105
We should just check with Mr.

818
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,425
Susie. I think he may still be muted. I don't,

819
00:39:19,565 --> 00:39:21,825
He he just, I heard him say he, he agreed.

820
00:39:22,135 --> 00:39:24,065
Yeah, I remember to ask him this time.

821
00:39:24,215 --> 00:39:27,195
Okay, I'm good to get better about that.

822
00:39:29,095 --> 00:39:32,475
So I guess no further conversation. All those in favor?

823
00:39:33,215 --> 00:39:34,395
Aye aye aye.

824
00:39:39,265 --> 00:39:43,405
We go two years to wait two and a half years to wait.

825
00:39:43,705 --> 00:39:46,325
So I will, I will note now that that has passed,

826
00:39:46,425 --> 00:39:51,325
that's $6,155 more than the FY 20 M 28

827
00:39:51,325 --> 00:39:52,645
ambulance that we purchased.

828
00:39:52,645 --> 00:39:54,325
So it's less, actually less than 3%.

829
00:39:57,745 --> 00:40:02,055
So that's not bad. So the paramedic intercept

830
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:07,205
vehicle, has that been placed into full service yet?

831
00:40:07,865 --> 00:40:09,885
No, we're wait, we're waiting on the safe for it.

832
00:40:10,835 --> 00:40:14,715
The narcotic safe. It's supposed

833
00:40:14,715 --> 00:40:16,795
to be here in the next 11 days.

834
00:40:17,625 --> 00:40:20,795
Okay. I was, I was just curious

835
00:40:20,795 --> 00:40:23,515
because I was wondering if we'd had any, yeah, if it had,

836
00:40:23,895 --> 00:40:25,595
had, had had any impact.

837
00:40:25,695 --> 00:40:29,775
Impact yet. No. To be determined. Yes.

838
00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:32,935
That's all I had. Congratulations.

839
00:40:33,075 --> 00:40:34,815
You got yourself another ambulance,

840
00:40:34,845 --> 00:40:37,615
well, placement ambulance. Right. You've got some picture

841
00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:39,975
On another why you so crafty with that wording?

842
00:40:41,295 --> 00:40:46,065
I wonder You think someone thinking about

843
00:40:46,065 --> 00:40:47,545
something that you wanna close now

844
00:40:50,355 --> 00:40:51,705
while I'm sitting here and seeing

845
00:40:51,705 --> 00:40:56,425
the, I don't know, he's coughing.

846
00:40:56,425 --> 00:40:58,585
He is not laughing. So Justin open,

847
00:40:58,605 --> 00:40:59,745
you know, Justin brought it up.

848
00:40:59,945 --> 00:41:01,225
I always give you guys the opportunity.

849
00:41:01,225 --> 00:41:04,865
Always, you know, I'm, I'm always willing to listen

850
00:41:06,845 --> 00:41:11,025
and I think at some point we should at least have a

851
00:41:11,025 --> 00:41:13,785
conversation whether I come back another night about another

852
00:41:13,855 --> 00:41:16,385
type two that we put in the fleet.

853
00:41:16,525 --> 00:41:21,045
Yes, it would be eight, but with

854
00:41:21,235 --> 00:41:22,965
Type two is in the transport. Yeah.

855
00:41:23,075 --> 00:41:25,565
Yeah. With the efficiencies we've seen with that vehicle,

856
00:41:27,105 --> 00:41:31,085
having one in line behind it so that if it's outta service

857
00:41:31,585 --> 00:41:34,685
or we do have multiple long distances

858
00:41:34,705 --> 00:41:37,125
or things like that, again keeping the mileage

859
00:41:37,945 --> 00:41:39,725
and the replacement schedule that we have

860
00:41:39,725 --> 00:41:42,325
for the type threes I, I don't think is a bad idea.

861
00:41:42,385 --> 00:41:44,445
So we can certainly have that conversation later.

862
00:41:44,475 --> 00:41:46,685
Doesn't have to be tonight. But,

863
00:41:47,225 --> 00:41:48,925
So that was the, that was the tough pill

864
00:41:48,985 --> 00:41:50,845
to swallow when we purchased that one

865
00:41:50,845 --> 00:41:52,765
because we had to outfit it.

866
00:41:52,765 --> 00:41:55,685
There was do, it was, it wasn't replacing an ambulance so

867
00:41:55,685 --> 00:41:57,685
that all that gear didn't just switch over.

868
00:41:58,465 --> 00:42:01,685
It was the, for me anyway, that was the,

869
00:42:01,875 --> 00:42:03,205
that was the hardest part of it.

870
00:42:03,435 --> 00:42:07,005
Vehicle is the inexpensive part of the whole equation. Yeah,

871
00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:10,685
It would be, this is $190,000 for the vehicle.

872
00:42:10,815 --> 00:42:15,565
Right. That would be, adding an eighth one would be 210,000.

873
00:42:16,525 --> 00:42:17,985
The first expense

874
00:42:18,855 --> 00:42:21,755
after that it would be 160, a hundred

875
00:42:21,775 --> 00:42:23,475
and what, you know, actually it'd even cheaper

876
00:42:23,475 --> 00:42:24,795
because we have to buy the power

877
00:42:25,575 --> 00:42:27,395
two 10 roughly to outfit it completely.

878
00:42:27,735 --> 00:42:29,635
The replacement would be around 145

879
00:42:29,865 --> 00:42:31,475
because we'll move the power load

880
00:42:31,475 --> 00:42:32,475
and move that stuff into it.

881
00:42:32,535 --> 00:42:35,355
So it's, it's 65,

882
00:42:35,735 --> 00:42:39,355
$6,000 fit it at that level, not that level care level,

883
00:42:39,355 --> 00:42:44,135
which is yeah, crafting up your,

884
00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,615
your cost per mile to operate here to date and everything.

885
00:42:48,415 --> 00:42:50,495
I want. I happy to, I want the numbers.

886
00:42:50,855 --> 00:42:52,015
I bet you can pull it up right now.

887
00:42:52,655 --> 00:42:54,295
I bet you I'll bet you he can pull

888
00:42:54,295 --> 00:42:55,295
It up right now.

889
00:42:55,295 --> 00:42:58,015
No, no, I see repairs and maintenance and tires

890
00:42:58,195 --> 00:43:00,735
and all that stuff where we, what we've taken so far

891
00:43:00,835 --> 00:43:01,895
and then knowing that it's gonna fall

892
00:43:01,895 --> 00:43:04,015
outta warranty at some point here. Run mileage and

893
00:43:04,875 --> 00:43:06,415
So I, I will,

894
00:43:07,975 --> 00:43:09,295
I think it's already out warranty. We're,

895
00:43:09,835 --> 00:43:10,975
So Josh is not here,

896
00:43:11,075 --> 00:43:15,495
but one thing that he pointed out when we added the seventh

897
00:43:15,565 --> 00:43:20,405
ambulance was we do need to keep in mind

898
00:43:20,475 --> 00:43:22,005
that we only have two mechanics

899
00:43:23,135 --> 00:43:24,435
and they're maintaining,

900
00:43:24,515 --> 00:43:26,115
I think Josh said somewhere in the neighborhood

901
00:43:26,115 --> 00:43:27,475
of a hundred pieces of equipment.

902
00:43:29,895 --> 00:43:32,935
So we, I'm not saying it's time to add another,

903
00:43:33,005 --> 00:43:34,375
another mechanic or whatnot,

904
00:43:34,375 --> 00:43:39,285
but we need, do, need to be conscious of, of their Gabe,

905
00:43:39,355 --> 00:43:42,565
it's got room in his budget to have a specific ambulance

906
00:43:43,765 --> 00:43:44,765
Mechanic.

907
00:43:47,025 --> 00:43:49,425
I I think there are other conversations that can be had

908
00:43:49,425 --> 00:43:51,305
around that same issue and,

909
00:43:51,365 --> 00:43:53,385
and you know, that comes down to some

910
00:43:53,385 --> 00:43:57,305
of the routine maintenance that we're asking them to do.

911
00:43:57,445 --> 00:44:01,265
And there may be more pressing bigger things

912
00:44:01,265 --> 00:44:02,385
that they could be doing and,

913
00:44:02,385 --> 00:44:05,105
and maybe we utilize outsourcing a little bit more as we get

914
00:44:05,815 --> 00:44:09,025
this, you know, as this fleet increases in size,

915
00:44:09,185 --> 00:44:11,185
I don't think outsourcing it ends up being all

916
00:44:11,185 --> 00:44:12,225
that much more expensive.

917
00:44:12,255 --> 00:44:13,585
It's often more efficient

918
00:44:14,685 --> 00:44:16,425
and can be done in a more timely manner

919
00:44:16,485 --> 00:44:18,025
and takes the load off them guys.

920
00:44:18,125 --> 00:44:20,545
So I think, I think there are things we, we can talk about,

921
00:44:21,565 --> 00:44:24,065
you know, how we function internally as well.

922
00:44:24,625 --> 00:44:28,475
Maximize capabilities. Yeah, and

923
00:44:28,575 --> 00:44:30,435
and for to that point, you know,

924
00:44:30,545 --> 00:44:32,565
when we were short on mechanics, we,

925
00:44:32,745 --> 00:44:35,605
we do get oil changes done down at quick lube

926
00:44:35,785 --> 00:44:37,565
and you know, I'm not saying we should do 'em every time

927
00:44:37,565 --> 00:44:39,125
down there 'cause they're quick, right.

928
00:44:39,125 --> 00:44:41,205
It's an oil change. It's not greasing

929
00:44:41,225 --> 00:44:42,325
the U joints and all that.

930
00:44:42,385 --> 00:44:44,605
But if it was every other

931
00:44:45,185 --> 00:44:48,045
and then they went in for major service to get all

932
00:44:48,045 --> 00:44:49,525
that stuff done here, like, you know,

933
00:44:49,525 --> 00:44:50,805
more conversations like Commander said

934
00:44:50,805 --> 00:44:54,895
that we could have about how we do that.

935
00:44:56,335 --> 00:44:58,955
But at the end of the day, yes it's another piece

936
00:44:58,955 --> 00:45:03,775
of equipment, but it's either you're changing the oil on two

937
00:45:03,775 --> 00:45:05,815
different ambulances or one ambulance twice

938
00:45:05,975 --> 00:45:06,975
'cause we're still running the mileage.

939
00:45:08,485 --> 00:45:10,575
It's no, it is true.

940
00:45:11,255 --> 00:45:14,495
I think the demand comes more from the, the something

941
00:45:14,495 --> 00:45:17,535
that needs immediate repair so that they have to drop

942
00:45:17,535 --> 00:45:19,135
what they're doing because we have a

943
00:45:19,135 --> 00:45:20,295
more critical piece of equipment.

944
00:45:20,415 --> 00:45:22,135
I think that's probably more

945
00:45:22,135 --> 00:45:24,575
of the issue than the routine maintenance,

946
00:45:24,595 --> 00:45:26,495
the PM stuff that can schedule. But especially

947
00:45:26,495 --> 00:45:29,095
In the winter we have, when we have four,

948
00:45:29,285 --> 00:45:32,255
four trucks down at the same time in the middle of a storm.

949
00:45:34,285 --> 00:45:36,415
That'll be an interesting conversation to have.

950
00:45:37,535 --> 00:45:39,365
Happy to, I like to talk. Yeah.

951
00:45:39,365 --> 00:45:41,165
No, and I, I just, I'm way both sides.

952
00:45:41,365 --> 00:45:44,265
I it's certainly, yeah, perhaps somewhat limited.

953
00:45:44,465 --> 00:45:45,945
I guess on the other side too where it's like, ooh,

954
00:45:46,385 --> 00:45:48,265
a let's call, you know, ambulance has got something wrong.

955
00:45:48,525 --> 00:45:49,665
So, you know, drop everything

956
00:45:49,665 --> 00:45:51,265
and deal with the ambulance and they've been great.

957
00:45:51,265 --> 00:45:53,025
Like they, they do a great job over there.

958
00:45:53,055 --> 00:45:56,225
They take care of us and get our stuff taken care of.

959
00:45:56,805 --> 00:45:59,505
And also a lot of the parts are so specialty that, you know,

960
00:45:59,505 --> 00:46:00,905
even if you want it fixed immediately,

961
00:46:00,925 --> 00:46:02,665
you're still waiting on something.

962
00:46:02,725 --> 00:46:05,665
The benefit of running the same chass in the same trucks is

963
00:46:05,665 --> 00:46:08,425
they can have one spare door handle that goes

964
00:46:08,425 --> 00:46:09,585
to all the outside cabinets.

965
00:46:09,685 --> 00:46:12,585
One spare outside light, that's LED that's $400

966
00:46:12,585 --> 00:46:14,345
that fits every box.

967
00:46:14,485 --> 00:46:16,825
So that's the benefit of doing what we just did,

968
00:46:16,925 --> 00:46:18,065
is we don't have

969
00:46:18,065 --> 00:46:20,185
to have 10 different 400 lights on the shelf.

970
00:46:20,185 --> 00:46:22,105
We have two and it covers any

971
00:46:22,105 --> 00:46:24,105
light outage on the entire fleet. So that's

972
00:46:24,205 --> 00:46:26,065
The same, same conversation that we just had

973
00:46:26,065 --> 00:46:27,145
with DPW Right.

974
00:46:27,255 --> 00:46:28,505
With bringing all

975
00:46:28,505 --> 00:46:30,465
of those trucks into the same make and model.

976
00:46:30,735 --> 00:46:33,225
Yeah. Least fleet already is.

977
00:46:34,565 --> 00:46:36,865
So it's that that standardizing it also helps the

978
00:46:37,065 --> 00:46:38,145
mechanics be more efficient too.

979
00:46:38,495 --> 00:46:39,705
Well, and they know what's coming, right?

980
00:46:39,705 --> 00:46:42,105
They know every 40,000 miles they gotta

981
00:46:42,105 --> 00:46:43,345
repack front wheel bearings, right?

982
00:46:43,345 --> 00:46:45,905
They, they, they know a hundred thousand miles ago replace

983
00:46:45,905 --> 00:46:48,025
the shocks this like they, it's already known.

984
00:46:49,085 --> 00:46:50,085
Yeah.

985
00:46:51,795 --> 00:46:56,515
So it's good stuff. Future conversations. I guess.

986
00:46:57,895 --> 00:47:00,805
David, before you go, I'll just congratulate you

987
00:47:00,805 --> 00:47:02,685
as well as director.

988
00:47:03,645 --> 00:47:06,755
You've got a great crew, you've done a tremendous job

989
00:47:07,635 --> 00:47:08,985
since you came on as director.

990
00:47:10,075 --> 00:47:14,505
We've, you hit the ground racing, not running, racing

991
00:47:15,005 --> 00:47:16,585
and you've done a, a tremendous job.

992
00:47:16,885 --> 00:47:20,625
You should be very proud. You're, you're

993
00:47:21,615 --> 00:47:25,505
another reflection on marytown

994
00:47:25,725 --> 00:47:28,825
and the safety of its residents or

995
00:47:28,885 --> 00:47:30,525
Another person that we're very lucky to have.

996
00:47:31,385 --> 00:47:32,665
Absolutely. Well thank you.

997
00:47:33,445 --> 00:47:34,465
And I love how you

998
00:47:34,465 --> 00:47:39,335
have in the trenches.

999
00:47:39,335 --> 00:47:43,495
So you see, you've got the history to know what's wrong

1000
00:47:45,755 --> 00:47:47,495
and you're actually implementing those changes.

1001
00:47:47,555 --> 00:47:49,975
And that's, I think they're, the real joy

1002
00:47:49,975 --> 00:47:51,455
for me is just like, and I'm sure

1003
00:47:51,895 --> 00:47:53,255
personal satisfaction for you as well.

1004
00:47:53,455 --> 00:47:55,135
'cause you're actually changing the system

1005
00:47:55,195 --> 00:47:56,975
or making a difference and that's huge.

1006
00:47:57,725 --> 00:48:01,455
Yeah. It's been, it's been a wild ride as all of you know.

1007
00:48:02,705 --> 00:48:05,495
Thank you. I do have, I tell anyone that'll listen,

1008
00:48:05,565 --> 00:48:06,895
what a phenomenal crew that I have

1009
00:48:06,895 --> 00:48:08,895
and how lucky I am to be in the position that I'm in

1010
00:48:09,445 --> 00:48:11,655
because they're phenomenal.

1011
00:48:12,395 --> 00:48:15,575
But I also couldn't have done, we couldn't have accomplished

1012
00:48:15,575 --> 00:48:17,575
what we've accomplished without the manager's support

1013
00:48:17,955 --> 00:48:19,135
and all of you guys' support

1014
00:48:19,275 --> 00:48:23,815
and the town office's support hr like I

1015
00:48:24,435 --> 00:48:26,575
the police chief doing all my background checks,

1016
00:48:26,575 --> 00:48:29,415
like onboarding and hiring the volume of staff that we hire

1017
00:48:29,635 --> 00:48:32,215
to, you know, we've expanded our staffing from

1018
00:48:33,215 --> 00:48:35,515
almost double in the last three years from, you know,

1019
00:48:35,595 --> 00:48:37,755
a little over 40 providers to, you know, we're,

1020
00:48:37,755 --> 00:48:38,955
we're almost at 80 now.

1021
00:48:40,135 --> 00:48:42,995
And that just wouldn't happen without the support

1022
00:48:42,995 --> 00:48:44,875
of the manager's office and,

1023
00:48:44,875 --> 00:48:48,195
and all the systems in, in municipal government that have

1024
00:48:48,195 --> 00:48:49,235
to happen to make all that happen.

1025
00:48:49,375 --> 00:48:51,435
And ultimately without the support of the select board

1026
00:48:52,015 --> 00:48:56,635
to give us the, to entrust me in some of my wild ideas.

1027
00:48:57,425 --> 00:48:58,635
Well thought out most of the time.

1028
00:48:58,695 --> 00:49:02,115
But, but wild ideas to progress our service forward.

1029
00:49:02,345 --> 00:49:05,915
Lead up for now. Yeah, no,

1030
00:49:05,915 --> 00:49:07,195
you won't hear that. That's so loud.

1031
00:49:07,855 --> 00:49:11,075
So the, the, so that's amazing.

1032
00:49:11,215 --> 00:49:15,605
So the, of those 80 employees, how many are,

1033
00:49:15,865 --> 00:49:18,405
are actual employees? Not per diems

1034
00:49:18,925 --> 00:49:23,345
Full-time as of today.

1035
00:49:23,785 --> 00:49:23,905
Tomorrow

1036
00:49:24,885 --> 00:49:29,095
2020

1037
00:49:31,195 --> 00:49:34,935
May I believe 24 down May four from 12.

1038
00:49:36,125 --> 00:49:40,795
So 56 people choose to come work

1039
00:49:40,795 --> 00:49:42,555
for Barry Town on their day off.

1040
00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:43,655
Yep.

1041
00:49:46,075 --> 00:49:50,775
And so that number obviously includes the six

1042
00:49:50,775 --> 00:49:53,095
that were added with Williamstown came on board,

1043
00:49:53,115 --> 00:49:56,015
but also the three additional that were in the budget,

1044
00:49:56,335 --> 00:49:58,375
I think that are including that number right David?

1045
00:49:58,875 --> 00:50:01,935
Yep. Yeah, no, that's good stuff.

1046
00:50:02,085 --> 00:50:04,495
Yeah, just managing that number of people is the,

1047
00:50:04,555 --> 00:50:06,455
and all the shifts and backfills

1048
00:50:06,455 --> 00:50:10,315
and good takes a village.

1049
00:50:10,695 --> 00:50:14,335
Yes it does. Lucky. Thankful we have one.

1050
00:50:15,455 --> 00:50:16,865
Well, all right, till the next time you

1051
00:50:16,865 --> 00:50:20,425
Come looking for something, You we'll chat soon.

1052
00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:23,995
Thank you. Thank you again David. Yeah.

1053
00:50:24,745 --> 00:50:26,435
Stop, don't stop dreaming

1054
00:50:26,455 --> 00:50:27,455
At least.

1055
00:50:27,455 --> 00:50:30,045
Oh, I don't, thanks. Thanks David. Thank you.

1056
00:50:32,235 --> 00:50:34,535
All right, next we're gonna do something not quite

1057
00:50:34,635 --> 00:50:37,705
so but necessary.

1058
00:50:39,575 --> 00:50:44,515
We need to award the chard terrace pump station

1059
00:50:45,765 --> 00:50:47,615
pump and rail replacement

1060
00:50:49,195 --> 00:50:52,135
during FY 27 budget deliberations.

1061
00:50:53,735 --> 00:50:57,465
Director Martino Public works highlight an issue.

1062
00:50:57,485 --> 00:51:00,345
The Orchard Terrace pump station budgeted

1063
00:51:00,345 --> 00:51:03,425
of $38,000 has been allocated in the sewer fund budget

1064
00:51:03,425 --> 00:51:05,785
to replace the sewer pump rail system.

1065
00:51:07,005 --> 00:51:08,245
The pump station is responsible

1066
00:51:08,245 --> 00:51:10,645
for moving wastewater from the low lining area

1067
00:51:10,745 --> 00:51:14,125
of Orchard Terrace to main gravity sewer located

1068
00:51:14,865 --> 00:51:16,965
up Orchard Terrace closer to Graniteville village

1069
00:51:17,595 --> 00:51:19,765
Rail system is essential as it guides the pump in

1070
00:51:19,765 --> 00:51:22,925
and out of it personnel to avoid entering it.

1071
00:51:24,165 --> 00:51:26,255
Josh discussed back in February,

1072
00:51:28,075 --> 00:51:29,885
pump station comprises of two pumps

1073
00:51:29,905 --> 00:51:32,205
and one of them is currently inoperable.

1074
00:51:33,005 --> 00:51:34,685
Additionally, the guide rails need replacement.

1075
00:51:35,605 --> 00:51:36,805
I mean two pumps is crucial.

1076
00:51:37,025 --> 00:51:38,205
If one fails there is

1077
00:51:38,205 --> 00:51:39,525
and there is no backup, it could

1078
00:51:39,525 --> 00:51:40,565
lead to serious consequences.

1079
00:51:42,085 --> 00:51:44,885
The lack of the backup is concerning to Josh.

1080
00:51:46,245 --> 00:51:50,185
He is recommending we award the replacement

1081
00:51:50,205 --> 00:51:52,545
to Laramie water resources of Newport.

1082
00:51:52,945 --> 00:51:54,465
Laramie previously replaced the pump

1083
00:51:54,465 --> 00:51:57,745
and rail for the other pump, right Orchard Paris in 2022.

1084
00:51:58,085 --> 00:52:00,185
So they're already familiar with the system

1085
00:52:00,965 --> 00:52:03,315
and they have performed most of the other pump work

1086
00:52:03,375 --> 00:52:04,915
for the town in recent years.

1087
00:52:05,785 --> 00:52:08,315
Hope that we received from them totals

1088
00:52:08,315 --> 00:52:11,435
$36,267 and 9 cents.

1089
00:52:11,455 --> 00:52:12,835
So well under budget.

1090
00:52:19,035 --> 00:52:20,935
Be flashy about this. Oh no, we

1091
00:52:20,935 --> 00:52:21,935
Gotta do it.

1092
00:52:21,935 --> 00:52:24,605
I gotta have a backup in that light then I,

1093
00:52:24,785 --> 00:52:25,885
if it's okay, I'll make a motion.

1094
00:52:26,285 --> 00:52:29,405
Absolutely. Award the Orchard Terrace pump station pump

1095
00:52:29,465 --> 00:52:31,725
and rail replacement Laramie water resources

1096
00:52:31,725 --> 00:52:35,645
of Newport in the amount of $36,267 9 cents.

1097
00:52:36,025 --> 00:52:38,245
Please note the competitive bidding was waived due

1098
00:52:38,245 --> 00:52:40,925
to the vendor's familiar familiarity with the pump station.

1099
00:52:41,975 --> 00:52:45,065
Second. Okay, I have,

1100
00:52:45,305 --> 00:52:47,065
I don't know if you'll have the answers Chris,

1101
00:52:47,125 --> 00:52:50,435
but we can ask them anyway.

1102
00:52:51,415 --> 00:52:52,515
So will this be similar

1103
00:52:52,515 --> 00:52:54,915
to East Berry pump station for the water?

1104
00:52:55,485 --> 00:52:58,915
Where will these alternate on and off or is one a primary

1105
00:52:59,055 --> 00:53:00,555
and one is purely a backup?

1106
00:53:01,135 --> 00:53:02,995
No, as I understand it, these alternate all,

1107
00:53:03,015 --> 00:53:04,555
all these systems alternate so they,

1108
00:53:04,555 --> 00:53:06,155
you're not wearing on one pump

1109
00:53:06,415 --> 00:53:09,795
and you know they would Yeah, you'll wanna have 'em wear

1110
00:53:09,815 --> 00:53:11,435
as close to the same as possible.

1111
00:53:11,505 --> 00:53:12,515
Obviously the one,

1112
00:53:12,535 --> 00:53:15,235
the existing one has been in operation longer,

1113
00:53:16,215 --> 00:53:18,555
but once they're both functioning Yeah, you,

1114
00:53:18,615 --> 00:53:19,915
you can alternate them.

1115
00:53:21,035 --> 00:53:22,285
Yeah, that was good.

1116
00:53:22,285 --> 00:53:23,525
I don't have to ask the rest of the questions

1117
00:53:23,605 --> 00:53:25,845
'cause you nailed 'em all Mr.

1118
00:53:26,095 --> 00:53:26,445
Susie,

1119
00:53:35,345 --> 00:53:36,175
we'll come back to him.

1120
00:53:36,525 --> 00:53:37,655
Just have a lobster rule.

1121
00:53:41,315 --> 00:53:42,395
I don't have any questions. I mean,

1122
00:53:42,535 --> 00:53:45,555
or really no comments other than Yeah, it's a requirement.

1123
00:53:45,635 --> 00:53:47,355
I mean we gotta move the sewer.

1124
00:53:47,695 --> 00:53:49,315
We don't have a backup that's active right now.

1125
00:53:49,375 --> 00:53:50,835
So if there's a problem with that pump,

1126
00:53:50,925 --> 00:53:52,995
we've got a problem. Period.

1127
00:53:53,215 --> 00:53:55,475
Period. Absolutely. I have, I have

1128
00:53:55,475 --> 00:53:56,475
One Mr.

1129
00:53:56,475 --> 00:53:59,705
Chair, Chris, Josh notes

1130
00:54:00,965 --> 00:54:01,985
in paragraph three,

1131
00:54:02,345 --> 00:54:04,905
a sewer pump truck is not included in the quoted amount.

1132
00:54:06,165 --> 00:54:08,955
Just Curious why that was pointed out

1133
00:54:09,265 --> 00:54:12,155
Because We'll do that ourselves.

1134
00:54:13,105 --> 00:54:16,145
Okay. Had to pump the station down

1135
00:54:16,145 --> 00:54:18,145
with the vector prior to installation.

1136
00:54:18,615 --> 00:54:20,865
Yeah, yeah,

1137
00:54:21,015 --> 00:54:22,015
Yeah.

1138
00:54:22,015 --> 00:54:24,745
So they, if in places where they didn't have a vector,

1139
00:54:24,845 --> 00:54:26,545
they'd probably include a quote for that.

1140
00:54:27,605 --> 00:54:29,295
Okay, Thank you.

1141
00:54:29,445 --> 00:54:31,895
Yeah, not an expensive piece of equipment.

1142
00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:34,715
So with that, I guess

1143
00:54:39,435 --> 00:54:40,615
we have a motion and a second.

1144
00:54:41,635 --> 00:54:43,535
All those in favor? Aye.

1145
00:54:44,275 --> 00:54:48,005
Aye, Susie's on break right now.

1146
00:54:49,305 --> 00:54:50,305
That's okay.

1147
00:54:51,405 --> 00:54:52,885
I just wanna make sure that he's not,

1148
00:54:53,105 --> 00:54:55,365
is he muted on our end or on his own?

1149
00:54:55,805 --> 00:54:57,925
I heard him Try to unmute him.

1150
00:55:00,495 --> 00:55:02,675
He should be able to unmute Himself. He should

1151
00:55:02,675 --> 00:55:04,675
Be able to, he should be able to do it himself.

1152
00:55:04,705 --> 00:55:07,355
Okay, got it. Alright. I did hear him,

1153
00:55:08,675 --> 00:55:10,795
I did let him know that we had muted him just

1154
00:55:10,795 --> 00:55:12,115
so he knew he

1155
00:55:12,185 --> 00:55:13,185
Should Be able to do it himself.

1156
00:55:13,385 --> 00:55:15,865
I heard him for the ambulance, so, okay.

1157
00:55:17,275 --> 00:55:19,795
Here he is gone.

1158
00:55:22,815 --> 00:55:24,985
So hello, Hello.

1159
00:55:26,075 --> 00:55:27,505
Hello, Mr. Susie. We

1160
00:55:27,505 --> 00:55:30,025
Were making sure that you had communication with us.

1161
00:55:32,045 --> 00:55:34,805
I I was muted. That's why you couldn't hear me.

1162
00:55:35,505 --> 00:55:37,765
Not by me, by the town manager.

1163
00:55:43,355 --> 00:55:45,055
All right. It wasn't personal.

1164
00:55:46,905 --> 00:55:49,315
Well it's hard not to take it that way.

1165
00:55:49,945 --> 00:55:52,635
Well, it was the conversation was because,

1166
00:55:52,785 --> 00:55:54,555
because of the conversation you were having

1167
00:55:54,555 --> 00:55:57,675
with somebody about school board that caused that.

1168
00:55:58,705 --> 00:56:00,475
Yeah, there's some background noise we were trying

1169
00:56:00,475 --> 00:56:03,505
to save from coming through. Yeah,

1170
00:56:03,765 --> 00:56:05,105
The background noise is over.

1171
00:56:05,695 --> 00:56:07,835
Okay. All right.

1172
00:56:08,255 --> 00:56:11,155
So we're on to number 10.

1173
00:56:12,425 --> 00:56:15,555
They're authorizing an impact payment in lieu

1174
00:56:15,555 --> 00:56:18,515
of a new three acre compliance stormwater system

1175
00:56:18,535 --> 00:56:19,955
for the Miller Woods development.

1176
00:56:22,185 --> 00:56:26,805
So I think I'm just gonna let the manager

1177
00:56:26,985 --> 00:56:29,805
handle this one because there is a lot to this.

1178
00:56:30,745 --> 00:56:33,275
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is.

1179
00:56:34,855 --> 00:56:37,515
So I think we've talked a lot over the years

1180
00:56:38,485 --> 00:56:43,075
about the three acre storm water rule

1181
00:56:43,075 --> 00:56:44,395
that went into effect and,

1182
00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:46,515
and probably about 10 years ago now.

1183
00:56:46,615 --> 00:56:50,315
And as time went on, we became aware that

1184
00:56:50,855 --> 00:56:55,515
we had multiple, multiple developments.

1185
00:56:55,695 --> 00:56:57,515
Not only developments but some of our own

1186
00:56:58,305 --> 00:57:01,115
municipal facilities too that were gonna be impacted

1187
00:57:01,255 --> 00:57:06,075
by the need to upgrade, upgrade these areas that had

1188
00:57:06,595 --> 00:57:07,875
existing stormwater permits,

1189
00:57:08,135 --> 00:57:11,315
but they weren't u up to the standard of the three acre.

1190
00:57:11,335 --> 00:57:16,235
And, and so we've managed to upgrade some

1191
00:57:16,235 --> 00:57:20,395
of our existing municipal systems with grant money

1192
00:57:21,335 --> 00:57:25,115
and have been working over the last several years to

1193
00:57:25,735 --> 00:57:28,755
figure out how to upgrade

1194
00:57:29,055 --> 00:57:30,795
or work towards upgrading these

1195
00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:32,635
developments, the seven of 'em.

1196
00:57:33,215 --> 00:57:36,235
And to start that process, we had

1197
00:57:36,235 --> 00:57:38,995
to have them engineered, designed.

1198
00:57:39,695 --> 00:57:42,835
And that's largely done on most all of these now

1199
00:57:43,425 --> 00:57:46,715
permits are in hand for most of them, but,

1200
00:57:48,295 --> 00:57:50,835
and, and, and largely that's paid for

1201
00:57:50,855 --> 00:57:52,035
by grant money as well.

1202
00:57:52,035 --> 00:57:54,955
There, there was obtain grants that the state awarded

1203
00:57:55,755 --> 00:57:59,715
to the town of Berry to pay for much of the engineering

1204
00:57:59,715 --> 00:58:01,235
and permitting for these sites.

1205
00:58:01,615 --> 00:58:04,315
The town has also budgeted over the last couple of years

1206
00:58:04,895 --> 00:58:06,875
for some of that work as well.

1207
00:58:07,735 --> 00:58:10,315
But at the end of the day, I don't think, you know, most

1208
00:58:10,315 --> 00:58:12,915
of the grant money is gonna cover this.

1209
00:58:12,935 --> 00:58:17,235
The, these expenses. Early on when we were first trying

1210
00:58:17,235 --> 00:58:20,075
to digest this three acre rule

1211
00:58:20,295 --> 00:58:22,195
and its impact on us,

1212
00:58:23,205 --> 00:58:27,155
there was conversation about options to pay impact fees

1213
00:58:27,855 --> 00:58:29,835
in lieu of having

1214
00:58:29,935 --> 00:58:33,675
to install an upgraded three acre storm water system,

1215
00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:36,555
which is extremely expensive to do.

1216
00:58:37,535 --> 00:58:39,235
And we were told back then

1217
00:58:39,305 --> 00:58:42,675
that impact fees were not really something

1218
00:58:42,675 --> 00:58:44,635
that the state was gonna en entertain.

1219
00:58:44,645 --> 00:58:49,355
There had to be very, very well

1220
00:58:50,195 --> 00:58:51,995
documented reasons why

1221
00:58:53,155 --> 00:58:57,875
a development could not have a three acre stormwater system

1222
00:58:57,945 --> 00:58:59,315
upgrade done to it.

1223
00:59:00,555 --> 00:59:04,455
And so the thought back then was that, you know,

1224
00:59:04,475 --> 00:59:06,495
if we could pay impact fees

1225
00:59:06,885 --> 00:59:09,135
that would probably be significantly cheaper

1226
00:59:09,315 --> 00:59:11,015
to do and let's just do it.

1227
00:59:11,015 --> 00:59:13,295
And that's when we found out, well you can't really do that.

1228
00:59:13,445 --> 00:59:16,495
It's available, but it's not something the state is going

1229
00:59:16,495 --> 00:59:19,175
to allow to be done on a whim.

1230
00:59:20,115 --> 00:59:23,655
So with regard to our seven plus sites,

1231
00:59:24,655 --> 00:59:27,055
the developments anyway, most all

1232
00:59:27,055 --> 00:59:28,815
of them have gone through extension.

1233
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:30,935
All of 'em have gone through extension engineering

1234
00:59:31,715 --> 00:59:32,975
and all of 'em.

1235
00:59:32,975 --> 00:59:37,095
But one there was, there were locations available

1236
00:59:37,315 --> 00:59:40,615
to come up with a design in those designs, like I said, are,

1237
00:59:40,635 --> 00:59:43,455
are largely done and permits in place.

1238
00:59:44,075 --> 00:59:46,695
The one exception to that is Miller Woods,

1239
00:59:46,955 --> 00:59:50,695
the Miller Woods development up off Miller, Dr. Miller

1240
00:59:51,515 --> 00:59:54,735
Miller Road is a a,

1241
00:59:54,915 --> 00:59:56,575
an extremely challenging site.

1242
00:59:57,315 --> 01:00:00,535
So our contractor

1243
01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:04,215
watershed consulting spent a fair amount of time

1244
01:00:05,155 --> 01:00:08,135
in engineering to prove to the state

1245
01:00:08,965 --> 01:00:11,295
that there really wasn't a viable option.

1246
01:00:11,595 --> 01:00:16,295
The, the, the terrain up there, the proximity to wetlands,

1247
01:00:17,275 --> 01:00:21,335
the the relatively small area to put a stormwater system

1248
01:00:21,365 --> 01:00:23,775
that still wouldn't fully be compliant

1249
01:00:24,475 --> 01:00:28,255
and that area would consume a fairly large portion of one

1250
01:00:28,255 --> 01:00:31,095
of the homesteads homestead lots up there.

1251
01:00:31,915 --> 01:00:36,775
And so we elected to take that to the state

1252
01:00:37,675 --> 01:00:39,135
and present it to them

1253
01:00:39,835 --> 01:00:43,815
and ask for the potential of that site to be considered

1254
01:00:44,655 --> 01:00:46,335
to pay this impact fee.

1255
01:00:46,825 --> 01:00:51,255
Which then means of, of a full three acres, storm water,

1256
01:00:52,545 --> 01:00:55,535
storm, storm, stormwater system is not needed.

1257
01:00:56,275 --> 01:00:59,015
The impact fee, there's a calculation for it.

1258
01:00:59,135 --> 01:01:01,335
I don't pretend to know what that, how that works,

1259
01:01:01,475 --> 01:01:03,015
but the state did

1260
01:01:03,595 --> 01:01:08,095
and they came up with this $40,500 impact fee

1261
01:01:08,095 --> 01:01:12,615
that if the town pays that we will be issued our permit

1262
01:01:13,315 --> 01:01:18,175
and not no, not required to then later within five years,

1263
01:01:18,265 --> 01:01:19,935
which would all these have

1264
01:01:19,935 --> 01:01:22,975
to be done once the permits are issued, the three acre

1265
01:01:24,155 --> 01:01:27,255
implementation, the desi the, the actual construction needs

1266
01:01:27,255 --> 01:01:28,375
to happen within five years

1267
01:01:28,475 --> 01:01:32,775
and how that's all gonna be paid for is still up in the air.

1268
01:01:33,475 --> 01:01:37,215
We can eliminate one of those by paying this impact fee.

1269
01:01:37,435 --> 01:01:39,295
It will provide the, the US

1270
01:01:39,555 --> 01:01:42,175
and the residents that live there, the permit

1271
01:01:42,205 --> 01:01:43,655
that they need, clean title

1272
01:01:44,875 --> 01:01:49,575
and for far less than what this will likely cost later on,

1273
01:01:49,725 --> 01:01:54,615
even if grant money is, does become available to pay 40,000,

1274
01:01:54,885 --> 01:01:58,255
there's roughly 10,000 an attainment grant left.

1275
01:01:58,835 --> 01:02:02,495
So that can, can go towards this will be reimbursable.

1276
01:02:03,195 --> 01:02:05,215
So it's, it's really about $30,000.

1277
01:02:06,395 --> 01:02:10,095
And, and at the end of the day, that's probably a, a a deal

1278
01:02:10,515 --> 01:02:14,135
and as I noted in my comments between the grant money

1279
01:02:14,135 --> 01:02:16,095
that we've received between the budget money

1280
01:02:16,095 --> 01:02:18,095
that we've also had there,

1281
01:02:18,095 --> 01:02:21,325
there's really not a impact on the,

1282
01:02:22,585 --> 01:02:24,885
on the general or the, this would be in the highway fund,

1283
01:02:24,885 --> 01:02:26,645
on the highway fund budget, I don't believe.

1284
01:02:26,645 --> 01:02:30,725
And so my recommendation is to authorize the payment

1285
01:02:30,825 --> 01:02:32,605
of this impact fee.

1286
01:02:33,075 --> 01:02:34,765
It's kind of at a critical nature

1287
01:02:35,305 --> 01:02:38,445
or a critical time to get this permit issued.

1288
01:02:38,985 --> 01:02:41,445
So you not, you've noticed it probably in the warrant.

1289
01:02:42,625 --> 01:02:44,925
If you decide not to approve it,

1290
01:02:44,925 --> 01:02:46,365
then we'll remove it from the warrant.

1291
01:02:46,865 --> 01:02:50,525
But in the essence, in the consideration of the timing,

1292
01:02:50,925 --> 01:02:55,085
I I placed it on the warrant, I, you know, in hopes that you

1293
01:02:55,765 --> 01:02:56,805
ultimately we'll approve it

1294
01:02:56,805 --> 01:02:58,325
because I think it's probably the best

1295
01:02:58,325 --> 01:02:59,525
deal for everybody around.

1296
01:03:01,525 --> 01:03:03,505
So I just want to add a couple things to that.

1297
01:03:03,765 --> 01:03:07,065
All of these storm water

1298
01:03:08,775 --> 01:03:12,465
treatment ponds, retention ponds, whatever we wanna refer

1299
01:03:12,465 --> 01:03:16,745
to them as we're in compliance until they change the rules

1300
01:03:17,715 --> 01:03:18,715
A hundred percent.

1301
01:03:19,205 --> 01:03:21,385
So I just want to make sure

1302
01:03:21,385 --> 01:03:22,545
that everybody understands that.

1303
01:03:23,085 --> 01:03:24,625
So this is a one-time fee,

1304
01:03:25,725 --> 01:03:26,985
It is a one-time fee.

1305
01:03:27,405 --> 01:03:30,225
We will still have to pay the annual inspection fee

1306
01:03:30,225 --> 01:03:32,385
for the existing system that that won't go away.

1307
01:03:33,085 --> 01:03:37,105
But this will take us out of that

1308
01:03:38,095 --> 01:03:40,265
requirement to then come back later

1309
01:03:40,325 --> 01:03:43,265
and construct a compliant three water three acre system.

1310
01:03:44,745 --> 01:03:47,205
We will still have the, obviously the operational,

1311
01:03:47,995 --> 01:03:50,495
The the annual operational permit fee

1312
01:03:50,755 --> 01:03:54,575
and the inspection fee that, you know, we've been budgeting

1313
01:03:54,635 --> 01:03:56,655
for and paying for that for, for years.

1314
01:03:57,505 --> 01:03:58,505
That won't go away.

1315
01:04:00,055 --> 01:04:02,555
So we, we did, when this, when this came around,

1316
01:04:02,755 --> 01:04:03,995
'cause obviously there's a, there's a,

1317
01:04:03,995 --> 01:04:05,795
there's a funding issue for this.

1318
01:04:06,205 --> 01:04:10,035
These are, if, if we just spitball, we, you know,

1319
01:04:10,035 --> 01:04:12,395
we can say somewhere between three quarters of a million

1320
01:04:12,695 --> 01:04:14,515
or three quarters of a million minimum

1321
01:04:15,455 --> 01:04:18,275
to likely well over a million dollars in some cases,

1322
01:04:20,145 --> 01:04:21,565
that's a significant amount of money

1323
01:04:22,415 --> 01:04:24,955
and it's a terrible situation that it puts a town in

1324
01:04:24,955 --> 01:04:28,195
because without the valid storm water permit,

1325
01:04:29,245 --> 01:04:32,775
their houses are essentially worthless.

1326
01:04:34,175 --> 01:04:35,925
Would be a cloud on title for sure.

1327
01:04:36,515 --> 01:04:40,705
Yeah. So thank you to the state for doing

1328
01:04:40,705 --> 01:04:42,995
that appreciated.

1329
01:04:45,095 --> 01:04:49,855
But yes, say

1330
01:04:53,005 --> 01:04:54,735
With all the conversation that's going

1331
01:04:55,895 --> 01:04:57,295
about the three acre fees

1332
01:04:58,675 --> 01:05:01,175
and the three, the stormwater period,

1333
01:05:02,075 --> 01:05:04,615
I'm wondering do you think we would get the money back if

1334
01:05:04,615 --> 01:05:07,175
they decide to pull their horns in on this?

1335
01:05:09,785 --> 01:05:11,445
That's, that's my joke. Sorry.

1336
01:05:13,035 --> 01:05:16,445
Only Delivered. Do you know what the impact fee, where

1337
01:05:16,445 --> 01:05:17,605
that goes and what it's used for?

1338
01:05:18,485 --> 01:05:21,805
I don't specifically. I would have to find that out, Bob.

1339
01:05:21,925 --> 01:05:25,285
I I don't, my, you know, my speculation is, is that a lot

1340
01:05:25,285 --> 01:05:29,605
of times there are funds set up to help

1341
01:05:29,635 --> 01:05:32,525
with clean up and that's what ultimately all

1342
01:05:32,525 --> 01:05:35,325
of this is about is the Clean, clean Water Act

1343
01:05:35,405 --> 01:05:36,965
for Lake Champlain and the tributaries

1344
01:05:36,965 --> 01:05:38,125
feeding Lake Champlain.

1345
01:05:38,825 --> 01:05:42,485
So my, my, my, my guess would be that it would go

1346
01:05:42,485 --> 01:05:45,085
to some form of form of cleanup, fun and,

1347
01:05:45,105 --> 01:05:47,485
and use to help clean up, you know,

1348
01:05:47,485 --> 01:05:48,725
the lake or, or whatever.

1349
01:05:50,515 --> 01:05:52,155
I, I can find the answer to that if you'd like.

1350
01:05:54,115 --> 01:05:58,285
Just curious. Nope, it's

1351
01:05:58,685 --> 01:06:00,205
Probably gonna go to the same place that the half

1352
01:06:00,205 --> 01:06:01,685
of the grant money that they took back

1353
01:06:01,785 --> 01:06:06,505
for administrative costs went half

1354
01:06:06,505 --> 01:06:08,025
of the grant money that they awarded to us.

1355
01:06:09,205 --> 01:06:10,265
So I guess

1356
01:06:10,605 --> 01:06:14,825
Before we so diverge again, I'll make a motion

1357
01:06:14,825 --> 01:06:19,745
that we authorize a payment of $40,500 for the impact fee,

1358
01:06:20,155 --> 01:06:21,665
which will enable the issuance

1359
01:06:21,665 --> 01:06:24,625
of an operational stormwater permit three acre

1360
01:06:24,925 --> 01:06:26,225
for the Miller Woods development.

1361
01:06:26,375 --> 01:06:28,825
This payment will eliminate the, the necessity

1362
01:06:28,825 --> 01:06:30,025
for additional engineering

1363
01:06:30,285 --> 01:06:32,225
and future construction of a treatment solution

1364
01:06:32,495 --> 01:06:34,585
that would be significantly more expensive than

1365
01:06:34,585 --> 01:06:35,825
the impact fee.

1366
01:06:38,675 --> 01:06:39,625
We'll second that

1367
01:06:43,395 --> 01:06:44,355
Ly with, with opinion.

1368
01:06:45,395 --> 01:06:47,275
I, I just, I really find this to be a chicken

1369
01:06:47,275 --> 01:06:48,355
and egg scenario

1370
01:06:48,355 --> 01:06:50,435
where we can't construct what they want anyway.

1371
01:06:50,855 --> 01:06:55,115
And where it's essentially impact fee, I read it as fine

1372
01:06:55,115 --> 01:06:58,835
or penalty to pay into the system to go into the abyss.

1373
01:06:58,835 --> 01:07:01,795
It, it's a little bit punitive.

1374
01:07:01,795 --> 01:07:05,315
However, the cost is significantly lower than

1375
01:07:06,105 --> 01:07:08,355
what it would actually take to construct this facility.

1376
01:07:08,735 --> 01:07:11,755
And I have to keep in mind that the residents

1377
01:07:11,755 --> 01:07:16,235
that live in this area and not encumbering the title

1378
01:07:16,255 --> 01:07:19,795
to their properties based on a unused stormwater permit.

1379
01:07:19,975 --> 01:07:23,235
So I am not in favor of the solution,

1380
01:07:23,255 --> 01:07:26,075
but on, in the, on the merits of it.

1381
01:07:26,095 --> 01:07:28,595
But I will support it given it's the best

1382
01:07:29,095 --> 01:07:31,275
or the least of the worst scenarios.

1383
01:07:32,775 --> 01:07:33,955
And that Ill leave it at that.

1384
01:07:39,665 --> 01:07:40,665
Anything you would like to add?

1385
01:07:41,955 --> 01:07:43,395
I think covered it. It's fine.

1386
01:07:44,985 --> 01:07:49,905
The, the one thing that occurred to me, Todd,

1387
01:07:49,925 --> 01:07:54,065
was speaking is we setting a precedent that may

1388
01:07:54,835 --> 01:07:57,175
put future select boards in a position.

1389
01:07:59,325 --> 01:08:00,385
So Bad decision,

1390
01:08:01,915 --> 01:08:03,415
I guess I did.

1391
01:08:04,475 --> 01:08:07,375
So we had a conversation at one point, Chris, about

1392
01:08:08,255 --> 01:08:12,565
a storm water utility because much like our water system

1393
01:08:13,025 --> 01:08:15,885
and our sewer system, the only people that actually pay

1394
01:08:15,885 --> 01:08:17,565
for it are the people that use it.

1395
01:08:20,485 --> 01:08:22,665
We have that, obviously that hasn't gone anywhere

1396
01:08:22,905 --> 01:08:24,865
'cause that that is a, an enormous lift.

1397
01:08:25,625 --> 01:08:29,175
Right. This be retroactive at that point to be included into

1398
01:08:29,175 --> 01:08:32,095
that, that pool of however that that goes around.

1399
01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:35,935
And it wouldn't just be storm stormwater treatment for,

1400
01:08:39,315 --> 01:08:41,455
for, for the developments.

1401
01:08:41,515 --> 01:08:44,595
It would have to, I researched some of them.

1402
01:08:44,865 --> 01:08:47,035
Some of 'em have a per parcel impact fee

1403
01:08:47,035 --> 01:08:48,915
because everybody uses the drainage dishes

1404
01:08:48,935 --> 01:08:49,955
on the sides of the roads.

1405
01:08:50,375 --> 01:08:52,715
And we have all these hydraulically connected roads

1406
01:08:52,715 --> 01:08:54,035
that we have calendar citywide.

1407
01:08:54,075 --> 01:08:57,035
You're talking about tower parcel fee? Yes. Per parcel.

1408
01:08:57,105 --> 01:09:01,315
Okay. Yeah. And it, it's, I I saw one

1409
01:09:01,315 --> 01:09:02,715
that was flat.

1410
01:09:03,075 --> 01:09:06,835
I saw one that was done by square footage.

1411
01:09:09,575 --> 01:09:10,625
Obviously that would,

1412
01:09:10,815 --> 01:09:12,345
that could be problematic in very town.

1413
01:09:12,425 --> 01:09:15,305
'cause we do have a lot of large parcels of land.

1414
01:09:17,005 --> 01:09:20,195
But do, do you see this as something that could be

1415
01:09:20,785 --> 01:09:22,795
retroactive to be brought into that?

1416
01:09:24,315 --> 01:09:26,635
I don't know that this particular payment could be,

1417
01:09:26,735 --> 01:09:30,635
but certainly, you know, future construction

1418
01:09:30,635 --> 01:09:34,835
of the sites could be certainly future operational

1419
01:09:34,835 --> 01:09:36,955
maintenance of the sites could be.

1420
01:09:37,415 --> 01:09:40,235
I'm not sure that this, you know,

1421
01:09:40,395 --> 01:09:44,755
'cause I, if, if we got serious about stormwater utility,

1422
01:09:45,245 --> 01:09:47,195
which some of that discussion was happening

1423
01:09:47,195 --> 01:09:48,995
before I took over then a little bit after,

1424
01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:50,555
but hasn't really gone anywhere.

1425
01:09:51,015 --> 01:09:53,115
You know, it's probably still quite some time away.

1426
01:09:53,135 --> 01:09:55,915
So I think going retroactive to try to roll

1427
01:09:55,915 --> 01:09:57,235
that into it would be difficult.

1428
01:09:57,935 --> 01:10:02,275
But I, I think it is something that needs

1429
01:10:02,295 --> 01:10:04,955
to be entertained in some form or another

1430
01:10:04,955 --> 01:10:06,955
because yes,

1431
01:10:07,295 --> 01:10:11,995
all taxpayers in Berry Town have some responsibility for

1432
01:10:12,425 --> 01:10:15,635
what the town roads, ditches and,

1433
01:10:15,635 --> 01:10:17,915
and town property contribute.

1434
01:10:18,895 --> 01:10:22,395
But they just shouldn't necessarily be responsible for,

1435
01:10:22,615 --> 01:10:27,335
for the developments that had these systems

1436
01:10:27,595 --> 01:10:29,575
put in with these developments were

1437
01:10:30,115 --> 01:10:31,335
put in place when they were,

1438
01:10:31,475 --> 01:10:32,575
you know, when they were developed.

1439
01:10:33,155 --> 01:10:36,855
And, and then the, the town as a whole is paying

1440
01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:38,335
for these over the years.

1441
01:10:43,295 --> 01:10:46,555
Mr. Susie being our, our representative in Montpelier.

1442
01:10:47,955 --> 01:10:52,335
Yes sir. Do you have any, any insight on, on

1443
01:10:53,615 --> 01:10:54,885
where we may be headed with this?

1444
01:10:56,565 --> 01:10:58,815
With the three acre rule? Yes sir.

1445
01:11:01,825 --> 01:11:06,225
I don't have any real insight other than it's being

1446
01:11:06,815 --> 01:11:10,425
discussed at some level,

1447
01:11:13,095 --> 01:11:16,995
but no, no legislation that is

1448
01:11:18,495 --> 01:11:19,615
identifiable at this point.

1449
01:11:21,415 --> 01:11:24,405
Okay. Stay on you about that.

1450
01:11:26,635 --> 01:11:28,275
I, I look forward to it.

1451
01:11:31,065 --> 01:11:32,925
And as we're sitting here, I'm just thinking of like a,

1452
01:11:34,665 --> 01:11:37,475
like a fire district type setup where maybe we could

1453
01:11:39,725 --> 01:11:43,055
find specific

1454
01:11:44,565 --> 01:11:47,855
neighborhoods or systems that are in need of this

1455
01:11:47,915 --> 01:11:50,895
and maybe carve it out similar to

1456
01:11:50,895 --> 01:11:52,295
how they would for a fire district.

1457
01:11:52,375 --> 01:11:54,655
I don't know if that would pass the sniff test or not,

1458
01:11:54,655 --> 01:11:56,775
but it's just something to think about. That was exactly,

1459
01:11:56,775 --> 01:11:57,975
Yeah, I mean there, there are,

1460
01:11:58,105 --> 01:11:59,855
there are stormwater districts.

1461
01:12:00,015 --> 01:12:02,775
I don't, in in the state there aren't a lot of them, so,

1462
01:12:03,595 --> 01:12:06,335
but there are, so whatever we did,

1463
01:12:06,355 --> 01:12:07,855
we wouldn't be starting from scratch

1464
01:12:07,995 --> 01:12:10,855
and we'd probably have to rely heavily on a consultant

1465
01:12:11,315 --> 01:12:12,615
to help us put that together.

1466
01:12:13,395 --> 01:12:15,575
But, you know, it's a conversation. I can start.

1467
01:12:17,185 --> 01:12:18,285
And from what I've found

1468
01:12:18,305 --> 01:12:20,245
so far south Burlington probably has one

1469
01:12:20,245 --> 01:12:21,245
of the most thorough ones.

1470
01:12:21,365 --> 01:12:23,965
I think Shelburn has got a pretty significant shelburn does,

1471
01:12:24,165 --> 01:12:25,325
I think has one.

1472
01:12:25,555 --> 01:12:28,325
Yeah, I think it's, you know, there there's the town wide

1473
01:12:29,675 --> 01:12:30,825
stormwater utility

1474
01:12:30,885 --> 01:12:33,905
and then there's a potential of, you know, until we get to

1475
01:12:33,905 --> 01:12:37,665
that level, maybe a sub set

1476
01:12:37,845 --> 01:12:40,985
of the specific entities with the stormwater requirements

1477
01:12:41,015 --> 01:12:42,545
that we have in front of us right now,

1478
01:12:44,735 --> 01:12:45,795
the limited information

1479
01:12:45,815 --> 01:12:47,515
or the limited that I've delved into it,

1480
01:12:47,515 --> 01:12:48,675
it just gets really complicated

1481
01:12:48,675 --> 01:12:50,635
because it comes down to ous surface,

1482
01:12:50,685 --> 01:12:53,875
which is essentially your roof, your driveway, yeah.

1483
01:12:53,985 --> 01:12:57,155
Your tennis court, your walkway sidewalk, whatever.

1484
01:12:57,155 --> 01:12:59,515
And then you start measuring square foot on everyone's

1485
01:12:59,675 --> 01:13:00,755
property for how much driveway they have

1486
01:13:00,755 --> 01:13:03,355
and how much roof they have and what they're contributing

1487
01:13:03,355 --> 01:13:04,675
to the overall water load.

1488
01:13:04,695 --> 01:13:06,555
And it's absolutely, that's the huge lift.

1489
01:13:06,945 --> 01:13:08,635
It's it's a heavy lift for sure,

1490
01:13:09,495 --> 01:13:10,595
but it can't be accomplished.

1491
01:13:10,595 --> 01:13:11,595
But, and that was, that was

1492
01:13:13,275 --> 01:13:14,675
A lot of that was done.

1493
01:13:14,675 --> 01:13:18,035
That's exactly what had to happen at, at an early stage in,

1494
01:13:18,055 --> 01:13:20,915
in the work that was being done in these developments

1495
01:13:21,675 --> 01:13:23,395
because they had to document that

1496
01:13:23,695 --> 01:13:27,275
and then they had to figure out what type

1497
01:13:27,275 --> 01:13:31,035
of credits could be gained by having lawn, you know,

1498
01:13:31,035 --> 01:13:34,675
imperial, you know, or, and so that

1499
01:13:35,495 --> 01:13:37,795
was laborious and expensive

1500
01:13:38,135 --> 01:13:41,075
and it would, would ultimately, so some of

1501
01:13:41,075 --> 01:13:42,795
that information is out there based on

1502
01:13:42,795 --> 01:13:45,435
what we've already done in the developments that we've done.

1503
01:13:47,135 --> 01:13:51,385
But like we've talked about in the past too, that

1504
01:13:52,195 --> 01:13:55,825
where this program is kind of broken is in the sense

1505
01:13:55,825 --> 01:14:00,545
that you can have a development of 24 houses adjacent

1506
01:14:01,165 --> 01:14:04,545
to 24 houses that weren't part of a development

1507
01:14:05,095 --> 01:14:08,465
that are contributing just as much impervious surface

1508
01:14:08,685 --> 01:14:11,205
and runoff and, and, and

1509
01:14:11,315 --> 01:14:14,085
because they weren't part of an official development

1510
01:14:14,085 --> 01:14:15,565
and don't have a stormwater permit,

1511
01:14:16,115 --> 01:14:17,405
they're not subject to this.

1512
01:14:18,225 --> 01:14:21,405
So then you say, well, you know, how how fair is any

1513
01:14:21,405 --> 01:14:22,685
of it, which is

1514
01:14:23,685 --> 01:14:25,325
Scenario is unfolding right now in,

1515
01:14:26,805 --> 01:14:30,935
I believe it's Richmond developmental, one side

1516
01:14:31,015 --> 01:14:32,995
of the street is fine,

1517
01:14:32,995 --> 01:14:33,675
doesn't need one

1518
01:14:33,675 --> 01:14:35,035
development on the other side of the street.

1519
01:14:35,035 --> 01:14:37,275
Nearly identical. Has to have one.

1520
01:14:37,735 --> 01:14:39,355
And I, I was gonna bring that up too.

1521
01:14:39,905 --> 01:14:43,395
Some of our most densely populated densely developed,

1522
01:14:43,475 --> 01:14:46,755
I should say areas of town predate act two 50,

1523
01:14:47,815 --> 01:14:50,685
Richardson Road, like U Lane, the tree streets

1524
01:14:52,145 --> 01:14:53,445
and none of those are on the list.

1525
01:14:54,065 --> 01:14:58,285
And they were all, and it's just, it's such an ill,

1526
01:14:59,125 --> 01:15:02,835
ill guided law that,

1527
01:15:04,425 --> 01:15:06,755
Well the three acre, I think there's eight

1528
01:15:06,755 --> 01:15:10,795
or 903 acres parcels identified in the state of Vermont

1529
01:15:10,795 --> 01:15:14,195
that contribute into the Lake Champlain watershed maybe

1530
01:15:14,195 --> 01:15:18,875
meant from AOG to only accounts for 5%

1531
01:15:19,455 --> 01:15:21,595
of the phosphorus going into Lake Champlain.

1532
01:15:21,655 --> 01:15:24,995
So we're spending millions, potentially billions of dollars

1533
01:15:26,055 --> 01:15:29,795
on this three acre stormwater upgrade on sites

1534
01:15:29,795 --> 01:15:33,075
that already have stormwater systems to

1535
01:15:33,585 --> 01:15:36,955
address 5% of the phosphorus going into Lake Champlain.

1536
01:15:37,865 --> 01:15:39,205
And we had a group come in here,

1537
01:15:41,075 --> 01:15:43,215
it would be two years ago now, that wanted

1538
01:15:43,215 --> 01:15:45,895
to address one particular area that wasn't subject

1539
01:15:45,895 --> 01:15:47,135
to three acre permits.

1540
01:15:49,395 --> 01:15:52,735
And they told us at the time that they, they viewed

1541
01:15:54,235 --> 01:15:58,455
$30,000 per pound of phosphorus reduction as

1542
01:16:00,465 --> 01:16:04,135
a fiscally legitimate, legitimate project.

1543
01:16:07,255 --> 01:16:10,145
Okay. I think, yeah, the horse is very,

1544
01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:12,505
we're not gonna save solve the

1545
01:16:12,665 --> 01:16:13,785
phosphorous problem tonight. That's

1546
01:16:13,785 --> 01:16:14,785
Sure.

1547
01:16:14,785 --> 01:16:16,625
We've we've tried over the last three, four years

1548
01:16:16,845 --> 01:16:18,665
to haven't been successful.

1549
01:16:20,015 --> 01:16:21,785
Well we do have a motion in a second.

1550
01:16:21,885 --> 01:16:26,185
So all those in favor? Aye aye Aye

1551
01:16:32,245 --> 01:16:36,575
to the folks in Millwood develop ultimately the town too,

1552
01:16:36,835 --> 01:16:38,815
but, and we need to pay the bills.

1553
01:16:40,275 --> 01:16:43,615
You have Nelson's invoices for both FY 26

1554
01:16:43,675 --> 01:16:45,655
and FY 27 for July 21st.

1555
01:16:47,125 --> 01:16:49,775
Take both. We can do. Yep.

1556
01:16:50,655 --> 01:16:52,155
And I would like to make a motion

1557
01:16:52,255 --> 01:16:54,035
to approve the weekly accounts payable warrants

1558
01:16:54,035 --> 01:16:55,875
for July 21st and July 28th.

1559
01:16:55,875 --> 01:16:58,395
Both fiscal year? No,

1560
01:16:59,335 --> 01:17:00,785
July 21st. Both fiscal years.

1561
01:17:00,925 --> 01:17:04,215
I'm sorry. Okay. I, that's why I was, I'll go back.

1562
01:17:04,795 --> 01:17:06,815
I'd like to make a motion to approve the weekly accounts

1563
01:17:06,815 --> 01:17:08,175
payable warrants for July 21st

1564
01:17:08,235 --> 01:17:10,325
for both fiscal years 26 and 27.

1565
01:17:10,995 --> 01:17:14,525
I'll second that motion in a second.

1566
01:17:14,905 --> 01:17:17,725
Any, is there any questions regarding any of those?

1567
01:17:19,515 --> 01:17:24,495
See any No. All right. All those in favor? Aye. Aye.

1568
01:17:24,755 --> 01:17:28,285
Aye. And we have abstain any abstention.

1569
01:17:29,605 --> 01:17:31,265
And now July 28th,

1570
01:17:32,205 --> 01:17:33,205
I'm on a roll.

1571
01:17:33,205 --> 01:17:35,305
I'd like to make a motion to approve weekly accounts payable

1572
01:17:35,305 --> 01:17:38,305
warrants for July 28th fiscally year 26 and seven

1573
01:17:39,255 --> 01:17:40,255
Second.

1574
01:17:41,605 --> 01:17:44,945
And questions regarding those, that batch

1575
01:17:44,965 --> 01:17:46,705
of checks.

1576
01:17:49,015 --> 01:17:51,435
All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

1577
01:17:51,975 --> 01:17:56,805
Aye. Miscellaneous,

1578
01:17:57,385 --> 01:18:00,455
do you have anything this evening, Mr. Manager?

1579
01:18:01,355 --> 01:18:03,635
I don't have anything to add other than, you know,

1580
01:18:03,635 --> 01:18:05,875
what I had given you in my notes

1581
01:18:06,015 --> 01:18:09,595
and no great exciting news like I did two weeks ago

1582
01:18:10,485 --> 01:18:13,955
other than I'll just reiterate the fact that the

1583
01:18:14,605 --> 01:18:16,995
radio system seems to be working very well.

1584
01:18:17,855 --> 01:18:20,435
So I'm very excited about that, as you all know.

1585
01:18:20,495 --> 01:18:23,275
And I think everybody that uses it is as well.

1586
01:18:23,775 --> 01:18:26,635
And I guess the other thing that I will announce publicly

1587
01:18:26,635 --> 01:18:28,435
that I had in my notes is that

1588
01:18:29,255 --> 01:18:31,595
we did receive the final plans

1589
01:18:31,975 --> 01:18:36,715
and the bid documents from VHB for the Camp Street work

1590
01:18:37,335 --> 01:18:39,955
and that all that is currently in the hands

1591
01:18:39,975 --> 01:18:43,035
of vRAN right now being approved.

1592
01:18:43,745 --> 01:18:46,995
They may or may not come back with some, some

1593
01:18:47,265 --> 01:18:49,275
what should be relatively minor changes

1594
01:18:49,385 --> 01:18:51,475
that can be incorporated relatively easy

1595
01:18:51,535 --> 01:18:53,555
and then we'll get the Federal Highway Administration

1596
01:18:53,615 --> 01:18:54,715
to sign off on that.

1597
01:18:55,335 --> 01:18:56,875
The meeting I had with them

1598
01:18:56,895 --> 01:19:01,155
and Josh a couple weeks ago seemed to indicate that

1599
01:19:02,445 --> 01:19:04,235
everything goes smoothly,

1600
01:19:04,365 --> 01:19:07,075
which we're not anticipating anything to not go smoothly.

1601
01:19:07,895 --> 01:19:11,115
We will have before the summer's out, the ability to, ought

1602
01:19:11,115 --> 01:19:12,595
to bid for that project.

1603
01:19:13,455 --> 01:19:16,555
And from what I understand, there are

1604
01:19:17,145 --> 01:19:19,635
contractors still looking for work for the fall.

1605
01:19:20,135 --> 01:19:22,475
So the hope would be that we'll ought to bid

1606
01:19:22,975 --> 01:19:24,275
and quick turnaround on that.

1607
01:19:24,415 --> 01:19:26,795
And we could be in construction

1608
01:19:27,495 --> 01:19:29,515
before snow flies on Camp Street,

1609
01:19:29,665 --> 01:19:34,355
looking at maybe a month if that construction time there.

1610
01:19:34,545 --> 01:19:36,155
It's not nearly as complicated.

1611
01:19:36,155 --> 01:19:38,275
There's a lot of work, but it's not nearly as complicated

1612
01:19:38,535 --> 01:19:39,955
as Holden Road was.

1613
01:19:40,575 --> 01:19:43,395
So anyway, that, that, that is good news.

1614
01:19:43,475 --> 01:19:47,035
I guess I should, I should not short change that.

1615
01:19:48,495 --> 01:19:51,435
So Yeah, if, if, if we can get those plans back

1616
01:19:51,435 --> 01:19:53,075
and get this out to bid, there is a chance

1617
01:19:53,075 --> 01:19:55,915
that gets done this year and Camp Street will be open

1618
01:19:57,155 --> 01:19:58,155
One step closer.

1619
01:19:58,155 --> 01:20:00,175
Yeah, I'm sure I'm not the only board member

1620
01:20:00,175 --> 01:20:02,535
that fields questions regarding Camp Street from

1621
01:20:03,655 --> 01:20:04,895
residents and non-residents.

1622
01:20:05,625 --> 01:20:06,625
Yeah.

1623
01:20:07,195 --> 01:20:09,125
With all the other closures in the area right now.

1624
01:20:10,535 --> 01:20:11,785
Yeah. Road construction

1625
01:20:11,805 --> 01:20:13,505
and people trying to go around stuff.

1626
01:20:13,505 --> 01:20:15,905
Sinkholes. Yep. Those two.

1627
01:20:17,975 --> 01:20:20,185
Tina do you have anything from the office?

1628
01:20:21,425 --> 01:20:23,465
I don't have anything. I also hoping

1629
01:20:23,465 --> 01:20:25,105
to bring a firework application.

1630
01:20:25,105 --> 01:20:27,785
One came in today but unfortunately Chief was out

1631
01:20:28,165 --> 01:20:30,705
and so it's for September.

1632
01:20:31,075 --> 01:20:32,705
Sorry, August 15th.

1633
01:20:32,845 --> 01:20:34,425
So you guys are gonna see it on the 11th.

1634
01:20:35,405 --> 01:20:36,665
Put it in plenty of time. If

1635
01:20:36,665 --> 01:20:37,945
It was in timely then that's fine.

1636
01:20:37,945 --> 01:20:40,985
Unfortunately I won't have a big time to butters know.

1637
01:20:41,005 --> 01:20:43,305
But give him a heads up about that.

1638
01:20:44,465 --> 01:20:46,185
I won't be here at our next select board meeting

1639
01:20:46,345 --> 01:20:47,385
'cause I'll be running the election.

1640
01:20:47,925 --> 01:20:50,545
Carrie will be here. You'll get to meet Carrie. Carrie?

1641
01:20:50,845 --> 01:20:53,345
Yes. Yes. We have not heard about your,

1642
01:20:53,495 --> 01:20:54,585
your newest employee.

1643
01:20:55,925 --> 01:20:58,615
Kind to her. It'll be her first time ever taking minutes.

1644
01:21:00,195 --> 01:21:01,535
How, how long has she been?

1645
01:21:02,335 --> 01:21:03,975
I think it's about, I think this is her third,

1646
01:21:05,725 --> 01:21:06,795
maybe it's months now.

1647
01:21:06,875 --> 01:21:08,835
I feel like now maybe, I think it's her third week solid.

1648
01:21:09,075 --> 01:21:10,275
'cause she had one vacation

1649
01:21:12,765 --> 01:21:13,765
Board, Carrie.

1650
01:21:14,485 --> 01:21:18,215
Hmm. And I guess we'll go around

1651
01:21:18,715 --> 01:21:19,715
The table.

1652
01:21:19,715 --> 01:21:22,415
Yeah. That's gonna save boat on the 11th. Yes.

1653
01:21:22,675 --> 01:21:23,695
For the primaries.

1654
01:21:23,995 --> 01:21:27,895
And I'll just throw in the I due August 17th.

1655
01:21:29,005 --> 01:21:30,225
If you're sending it in in the mail,

1656
01:21:30,945 --> 01:21:32,135
think about sending it now.

1657
01:21:33,315 --> 01:21:35,375
Yep. Post and then call on the 14th

1658
01:21:35,395 --> 01:21:36,775
to make sure Tina's received it.

1659
01:21:37,545 --> 01:21:40,245
Those mark star no longer accept

1660
01:21:42,435 --> 01:21:43,435
That for me.

1661
01:21:44,105 --> 01:21:48,395
Nelson, I don't know

1662
01:21:48,395 --> 01:21:50,715
as I have much Chris.

1663
01:21:50,825 --> 01:21:53,995
Glad to hear that the, the new radio tower seems

1664
01:21:53,995 --> 01:21:57,715
to be doing its, and Jamal seemed to be doing its job.

1665
01:21:57,855 --> 01:22:00,595
I'm glad that's that's work working.

1666
01:22:01,455 --> 01:22:05,795
And do we have any reason to expect

1667
01:22:05,795 --> 01:22:09,235
that there may be another water main break?

1668
01:22:09,435 --> 01:22:11,675
I know they, they seem to come in groups

1669
01:22:11,995 --> 01:22:13,435
'cause once you take that pressure off,

1670
01:22:13,435 --> 01:22:14,835
then all the weak spots are

1671
01:22:14,865 --> 01:22:16,595
Exposed hammerhead.

1672
01:22:17,265 --> 01:22:18,835
Yeah. I don't think we can rule it out.

1673
01:22:20,135 --> 01:22:21,395
You know, that's what happens.

1674
01:22:21,705 --> 01:22:24,235
Like, like you said, I don't know that

1675
01:22:24,235 --> 01:22:26,155
that's was the problem for the Westerville,

1676
01:22:26,175 --> 01:22:27,475
the upper Westerville one,

1677
01:22:27,575 --> 01:22:31,315
but I think that's just a string of bad luck.

1678
01:22:31,375 --> 01:22:33,275
But yeah, I think the other ones are related

1679
01:22:33,335 --> 01:22:35,035
to when you reenergize a system

1680
01:22:35,935 --> 01:22:38,115
and if you've got a weak spot somewhere, you're, you're,

1681
01:22:38,115 --> 01:22:39,595
that's when you're most likely to find it.

1682
01:22:40,795 --> 01:22:45,035
A lot of these well not, you know, old, old

1683
01:22:45,175 --> 01:22:49,915
or old enough and when they're laid in the ground

1684
01:22:49,975 --> 01:22:52,155
and you've got a boulder or a rock next to it

1685
01:22:52,155 --> 01:22:55,635
and you get movement over time, it, it can je it can,

1686
01:22:56,295 --> 01:22:58,355
you know, put that pipe in jeopardy

1687
01:22:58,575 --> 01:23:02,435
and all I can say is better this time

1688
01:23:02,435 --> 01:23:03,875
of year than in the middle of the winter.

1689
01:23:04,175 --> 01:23:05,805
So, you know, maybe that's a plus.

1690
01:23:05,855 --> 01:23:06,885
We're getting them out of the way.

1691
01:23:07,405 --> 01:23:09,885
Berry City and I think Montpelier have also had kind

1692
01:23:09,885 --> 01:23:11,845
of a rash of water main breaks too.

1693
01:23:11,905 --> 01:23:14,045
So I don't really know what's going on there,

1694
01:23:14,105 --> 01:23:16,285
but it, I I I know I would

1695
01:23:16,305 --> 01:23:18,005
and I know our crew would rather have 'em

1696
01:23:18,005 --> 01:23:19,085
this time of year than in January

1697
01:23:20,505 --> 01:23:21,865
And Mel Nino

1698
01:23:22,365 --> 01:23:26,705
or La Nina, one of them, whichever is

1699
01:23:26,885 --> 01:23:27,905
that's it for me Mr.

1700
01:23:27,905 --> 01:23:32,465
Chair. Okay. Before I forget Mr. Ti, you fine.

1701
01:23:32,805 --> 01:23:35,225
Mr. Susie, did you have anything to, for round table?

1702
01:23:36,665 --> 01:23:39,035
Well, a couple of things I guess.

1703
01:23:40,595 --> 01:23:43,715
I attended my first Heritage parade

1704
01:23:45,255 --> 01:23:46,395
and it was well attended.

1705
01:23:47,145 --> 01:23:49,875
Lots of people as representative Susie

1706
01:23:50,935 --> 01:23:53,035
and I also got a chance for the first time

1707
01:23:53,175 --> 01:23:56,875
to hear a local band named Native Tongue who

1708
01:23:57,995 --> 01:24:00,555
I thought was really solid and strong and tight

1709
01:24:00,735 --> 01:24:02,435
and enjoyed that.

1710
01:24:03,485 --> 01:24:05,555
Other than that I have nothing.

1711
01:24:06,965 --> 01:24:09,025
Native Tongue certainly has a following.

1712
01:24:09,955 --> 01:24:11,385
Can't believe that was your first time.

1713
01:24:11,695 --> 01:24:12,695
It's not your last.

1714
01:24:14,205 --> 01:24:16,495
Well it's not gonna be my last time, that's for sure.

1715
01:24:17,775 --> 01:24:18,885
Thank you Mr. Susie.

1716
01:24:23,705 --> 01:24:26,185
I didn't have anything but to piggyback on what Todd said,

1717
01:24:26,425 --> 01:24:30,305
I I was, I always put my money into my savings account

1718
01:24:30,325 --> 01:24:33,065
for my taxes, you know, a little bit out of each paycheck

1719
01:24:33,245 --> 01:24:34,265
and I would go to the bank

1720
01:24:34,325 --> 01:24:35,745
and I would either have to transfer it

1721
01:24:35,745 --> 01:24:37,065
to my checking account and write a check

1722
01:24:37,325 --> 01:24:39,965
or I'd, you know, have them write a cashier's check

1723
01:24:41,375 --> 01:24:44,675
the option to just a CH to fill out the form from the bank.

1724
01:24:44,675 --> 01:24:48,035
There's no fee and it just sucks outta your savings account.

1725
01:24:48,035 --> 01:24:50,275
It's on the town to do it, not you at that point in time.

1726
01:24:50,335 --> 01:24:52,915
So I mean, it it takes all the onus

1727
01:24:53,295 --> 01:24:54,295
On the due date.

1728
01:24:54,505 --> 01:24:56,555
Yeah, it is, it was the best thing I ever did.

1729
01:24:56,555 --> 01:24:58,915
So if anybody is thinking I can't do that

1730
01:24:58,915 --> 01:25:00,835
because there's a fee, there is an option to,

1731
01:25:00,855 --> 01:25:03,795
to have it direct debited out of your account without a fee.

1732
01:25:03,935 --> 01:25:04,935
So

1733
01:25:05,195 --> 01:25:07,505
We're having a lot of people sign up lately for that.

1734
01:25:08,405 --> 01:25:11,015
It's not easy. Yeah. Just not to think about it and

1735
01:25:11,555 --> 01:25:13,615
You know, people setting it up for the actual due date

1736
01:25:13,675 --> 01:25:16,655
or for a couple business days before you have to

1737
01:25:16,655 --> 01:25:18,775
Do it for the due date, Ashley, it's out on,

1738
01:25:19,135 --> 01:25:20,335
everyone gets it pulled on the due date,

1739
01:25:20,335 --> 01:25:22,055
which is it I as you can get.

1740
01:25:22,075 --> 01:25:24,295
So there's no, the, the argument

1741
01:25:24,295 --> 01:25:25,615
of playing the float is no longer there.

1742
01:25:25,875 --> 01:25:28,015
It appealed an awful lot of calls of saying, well

1743
01:25:28,015 --> 01:25:29,015
That was, is it Really working?

1744
01:25:29,725 --> 01:25:30,975
That was, that was part of it.

1745
01:25:30,995 --> 01:25:33,015
And then the other part of that is too, if,

1746
01:25:33,155 --> 01:25:35,575
if somebody forgot that the account, you know, to put

1747
01:25:35,575 --> 01:25:37,135
that money in that account that they're using.

1748
01:25:37,335 --> 01:25:40,855
'cause a lot of people don't like just sit in an account

1749
01:25:40,855 --> 01:25:43,935
that somebody else, you know, has access to.

1750
01:25:44,425 --> 01:25:45,695
Which I totally understand.

1751
01:25:48,135 --> 01:25:50,475
You know, but that if they, if it's done on the due date,

1752
01:25:50,475 --> 01:25:53,885
that doesn't leave them much time to rectify the situation

1753
01:25:53,885 --> 01:25:56,805
before they get it with 5%

1754
01:25:59,455 --> 01:26:00,545
pays for itself pretty quickly.

1755
01:26:01,875 --> 01:26:03,765
Yes. And I was going to mention,

1756
01:26:06,545 --> 01:26:09,205
but the manager brought that up.

1757
01:26:09,575 --> 01:26:11,405
Olden Road is open, we're gonna beat

1758
01:26:11,405 --> 01:26:12,565
that drum as long as we can.

1759
01:26:17,085 --> 01:26:21,135
Yeah. DPW is very busy paving amongst other things.

1760
01:26:21,405 --> 01:26:25,325
I've seen some ditch work happening as well so,

1761
01:26:30,565 --> 01:26:34,635
and baseball field backstop.

1762
01:26:34,715 --> 01:26:35,835
I saw them working on that.

1763
01:26:35,935 --> 01:26:38,715
That's good stuff that was patched up with boards

1764
01:26:38,715 --> 01:26:40,075
and plywood Get it by.

1765
01:26:40,075 --> 01:26:43,125
It was not a very attractive, one of the first things

1766
01:26:43,125 --> 01:26:44,245
that you see when you went to our,

1767
01:26:44,345 --> 01:26:46,485
our main recreation area. So I'm, I'm glad

1768
01:26:46,585 --> 01:26:47,645
Are they resurfacing too?

1769
01:26:47,835 --> 01:26:50,325
Yeah, I was just gonna say that's, I did forget to

1770
01:26:50,355 --> 01:26:52,285
that I haven't checked it out in person yet,

1771
01:26:52,285 --> 01:26:53,805
but I saw them working on the trial hill.

1772
01:26:54,495 --> 01:26:58,485
Looks great. Resurfacing so I suspect it's phenomenal.

1773
01:26:58,605 --> 01:27:01,005
I can't wait to check it out in person up close.

1774
01:27:01,635 --> 01:27:02,685
Yeah, it is great.

1775
01:27:02,985 --> 01:27:06,085
The fence is gonna be great guys jumped right on all these

1776
01:27:06,165 --> 01:27:09,325
projects to to so that you know they can be enjoyed

1777
01:27:09,325 --> 01:27:10,365
before the season's out.

1778
01:27:11,825 --> 01:27:13,115
What if they got their ice cream social

1779
01:27:13,135 --> 01:27:14,135
In tonight?

1780
01:27:14,135 --> 01:27:17,715
I met with Guy probably a month ago at the rec area

1781
01:27:18,535 --> 01:27:21,275
and the basketball court there had already been resurfaced

1782
01:27:22,975 --> 01:27:27,005
and it, it does look great to help.

1783
01:27:27,105 --> 01:27:28,965
She nice not to have those ankle breakers.

1784
01:27:30,615 --> 01:27:35,295
Speaking of Rick, I also, and I mentioned, I texted guy

1785
01:27:35,355 --> 01:27:39,945
but Sunday afternoons my wife and I were coming home

1786
01:27:40,445 --> 01:27:42,505
and the trial hill playground was

1787
01:27:44,085 --> 01:27:46,585
Always With, with people.

1788
01:27:47,305 --> 01:27:49,985
There were people playing basketball, there was people,

1789
01:27:50,215 --> 01:27:51,385
kids, all kinds of kids.

1790
01:27:51,535 --> 01:27:53,305
They must have had a birthday party or something.

1791
01:27:53,305 --> 01:27:55,345
There must've been 30 kids in there playing

1792
01:27:55,695 --> 01:27:58,305
with their parents and know the cars were parked.

1793
01:27:58,365 --> 01:28:00,985
It was great. I love just loved driving by

1794
01:28:00,985 --> 01:28:03,825
and seeing it be used and all those kids having a good time.

1795
01:28:04,495 --> 01:28:06,945
Sometimes, sometimes on my way home

1796
01:28:06,945 --> 01:28:08,225
after work I'll drive up.

1797
01:28:08,225 --> 01:28:10,905
Especially maybe like, not, not, maybe not tonight.

1798
01:28:11,065 --> 01:28:12,385
'cause I hear it's raining there.

1799
01:28:13,645 --> 01:28:17,225
It is not raining where I am and it's 87 degrees,

1800
01:28:18,965 --> 01:28:23,065
but I'll drive up through the recreation area just

1801
01:28:23,065 --> 01:28:25,585
to see all the different people using all

1802
01:28:25,605 --> 01:28:26,905
of the different facilities

1803
01:28:26,905 --> 01:28:29,545
and having fun to to, to your point Bob,

1804
01:28:29,575 --> 01:28:30,625
it's, it's great to see

1805
01:28:32,795 --> 01:28:36,605
The, the main rec area, tra Hill

1806
01:28:38,105 --> 01:28:41,165
and I believe Graniteville throughout the years have been

1807
01:28:41,165 --> 01:28:43,005
there for various different things

1808
01:28:43,585 --> 01:28:45,605
and I think I've seen dominoes at every,

1809
01:28:48,355 --> 01:28:50,285
They do deliver there sometimes.

1810
01:28:50,285 --> 01:28:51,245
You're having so much fun you

1811
01:28:51,245 --> 01:28:52,005
can't leave for dinner. That's right.

1812
01:28:52,005 --> 01:28:53,885
You don't even wanna leave for dinner, leave you.

1813
01:28:53,885 --> 01:28:55,925
They can bring it to us. So,

1814
01:28:55,925 --> 01:28:57,445
and then I guess that's all I had.

1815
01:28:57,465 --> 01:28:59,685
So anything from anybody in the audience?

1816
01:29:00,785 --> 01:29:02,565
I'm just listening and taking it in

1817
01:29:02,625 --> 01:29:06,025
and when I research everything I'm listening to then I'll

1818
01:29:08,265 --> 01:29:10,825
Absolutely, we are always glad

1819
01:29:10,825 --> 01:29:12,065
to have people in the audience.

1820
01:29:12,205 --> 01:29:16,125
We do this frequently where it's just the room of this.

1821
01:29:16,125 --> 01:29:18,085
Fortunately Eric visits us every week. Yeah.

1822
01:29:18,085 --> 01:29:19,365
He keeps us honest. He

1823
01:29:23,935 --> 01:29:25,905
Getting more involved in stuff. So

1824
01:29:26,445 --> 01:29:29,545
See, always looking for love that for volunteers,

1825
01:29:29,605 --> 01:29:31,705
for all the various boards and commissions

1826
01:29:31,805 --> 01:29:33,385
and committees and and stuff.

1827
01:29:34,225 --> 01:29:37,385
Certainly no lack of need. Are you new to the area?

1828
01:29:37,935 --> 01:29:39,385
Been here for eight years?

1829
01:29:39,585 --> 01:29:43,745
I think so, yeah.

1830
01:29:44,175 --> 01:29:46,225
I've a have an electrical contracting business.

1831
01:29:47,255 --> 01:29:48,255
I go to Nelson's.

1832
01:29:49,115 --> 01:29:51,135
Yep. I've seen you two before.

1833
01:29:51,295 --> 01:29:54,415
I can't picture where I must have seen you at the store.

1834
01:29:54,595 --> 01:29:57,135
The store. Yep. I've seen you places

1835
01:29:57,275 --> 01:29:58,655
and I can't remember where

1836
01:29:59,335 --> 01:30:00,615
I worked for a commercial mason.

1837
01:30:02,025 --> 01:30:03,645
We may have bumped into each other.

1838
01:30:03,665 --> 01:30:04,925
How long have you had your business for?

1839
01:30:05,105 --> 01:30:08,325
Oh geez. I've been an electrician for over 40 years now.

1840
01:30:09,475 --> 01:30:13,135
So previously my, my father had a residential

1841
01:30:14,285 --> 01:30:15,975
masonry business and I worked with him.

1842
01:30:17,695 --> 01:30:19,995
I'm fairly new to the area. I'm really from the

1843
01:30:20,355 --> 01:30:22,795
Burlington, well not really Burlington but Essex area.

1844
01:30:23,695 --> 01:30:26,235
But then I started working at Huntington Homes.

1845
01:30:26,355 --> 01:30:28,115
I was their head electrician for 10 years.

1846
01:30:28,815 --> 01:30:30,555
So I got sick of traveling back and forth.

1847
01:30:30,655 --> 01:30:32,835
So I bought a house on Route 14

1848
01:30:34,425 --> 01:30:37,735
and so

1849
01:30:38,035 --> 01:30:39,175
It proximity and yeah.

1850
01:30:39,195 --> 01:30:40,455
New pavement now? Yeah,

1851
01:30:41,755 --> 01:30:42,755
New pavement.

1852
01:30:42,755 --> 01:30:43,895
Oh there's new pavement.

1853
01:30:44,525 --> 01:30:45,935
They, I've been here for eight years.

1854
01:30:45,935 --> 01:30:47,175
They haven't paved these roads once.

1855
01:30:47,235 --> 01:30:48,375
Oh well sorry I was,

1856
01:30:48,455 --> 01:30:49,735
I was assuming you were on the eastbound

1857
01:30:49,735 --> 01:30:50,895
player side of 14. No,

1858
01:30:51,755 --> 01:30:53,775
No, they just do Password Barry side.

1859
01:30:53,995 --> 01:30:55,335
I'd like to see 'em go right through the

1860
01:30:55,335 --> 01:30:57,055
whole thing. And they

1861
01:30:57,055 --> 01:30:58,575
Did come in and put a little bit

1862
01:30:58,575 --> 01:31:00,655
of lipstick on it a couple years ago

1863
01:31:00,655 --> 01:31:01,935
because of the holes. But I mean

1864
01:31:02,765 --> 01:31:04,415
They come back real fast. They

1865
01:31:04,415 --> 01:31:05,415
Do, Absolutely.

1866
01:31:05,415 --> 01:31:06,375
Some of 'em are ridiculous.

1867
01:31:06,995 --> 01:31:09,135
People offices fires out and everything.

1868
01:31:09,485 --> 01:31:10,855
Offices in south bar.

1869
01:31:12,005 --> 01:31:13,945
What's worse is, is roof 13 the

1870
01:31:13,945 --> 01:31:15,065
closer you get to Whams Town?

1871
01:31:15,065 --> 01:31:16,345
Yeah. Yeah. And

1872
01:31:16,345 --> 01:31:17,345
That's where I'm at.

1873
01:31:17,345 --> 01:31:18,305
Trenches in the road. Yeah.

1874
01:31:18,545 --> 01:31:20,185
I don't know how motorcycles make it through.

1875
01:31:20,255 --> 01:31:22,805
They don't either. I mean you see him

1876
01:31:22,805 --> 01:31:24,005
on the other, on the highways too.

1877
01:31:24,005 --> 01:31:26,405
Those trenches, the tracks that go down, it's like

1878
01:31:26,795 --> 01:31:28,525
what are they doing skimping on the pavement

1879
01:31:28,525 --> 01:31:30,645
or what are they doing that's different? Something's

1880
01:31:30,645 --> 01:31:34,405
Not, well if our town, our Josh Martino, our director

1881
01:31:34,405 --> 01:31:35,405
of public works was here.

1882
01:31:36,065 --> 01:31:37,245
We can tell you exactly what's wrong.

1883
01:31:38,035 --> 01:31:42,205
Yeah. He has given us many on, on pavement. Yeah.

1884
01:31:42,705 --> 01:31:44,725
My father was a paver for years.

1885
01:31:44,785 --> 01:31:47,085
He ran the biggest pavers you can run

1886
01:31:47,825 --> 01:31:49,885
but in California, that's where I'm from

1887
01:31:50,545 --> 01:31:54,205
and he told me all kinds of stuff about paving.

1888
01:31:54,835 --> 01:31:56,245
He'd just look at the stuff around here

1889
01:31:56,265 --> 01:31:58,045
and just shake his head. Yeah.

1890
01:31:58,155 --> 01:32:00,725
Yeah. So very town we do,

1891
01:32:00,785 --> 01:32:02,325
we do it a little different than some

1892
01:32:02,325 --> 01:32:06,145
of the communities we pave a lot every year.

1893
01:32:06,865 --> 01:32:09,445
Try to, Josh would tell you it's all about

1894
01:32:09,445 --> 01:32:10,605
pavement preservation.

1895
01:32:10,915 --> 01:32:13,325
It's not just about having it smooth while it's first paved.

1896
01:32:13,325 --> 01:32:15,645
It's having it stay that way.

1897
01:32:16,985 --> 01:32:18,725
Not, not paving Over crap either.

1898
01:32:20,025 --> 01:32:22,325
So that's where we have five year plans for that.

1899
01:32:22,425 --> 01:32:25,355
So that's where that, that comes in to manager and

1900
01:32:26,795 --> 01:32:29,735
and Josh update those every year, you know, around

1901
01:32:30,815 --> 01:32:33,175
September, October, November, you know, just before budget.

1902
01:32:33,235 --> 01:32:35,455
So they can start plugging numbers into the budgets for the,

1903
01:32:35,755 --> 01:32:38,815
You mean five year plans to repave the roads you mean?

1904
01:32:38,925 --> 01:32:41,775
Yeah, because I haven't seen it done once in eight years.

1905
01:32:42,635 --> 01:32:46,255
So not state That Route 14 stay road.

1906
01:32:46,485 --> 01:32:48,295
Road. Yeah. Just town road.

1907
01:32:48,435 --> 01:32:50,375
So town 3 0 2 and 14

1908
01:32:50,435 --> 01:32:52,295
and that short little section of two, right?

1909
01:32:54,765 --> 01:32:59,525
Yeah With, so we have five year paved road

1910
01:32:59,525 --> 01:33:01,405
plan, five year gravel road plan,

1911
01:33:01,955 --> 01:33:03,725
five year equipment replacement plan

1912
01:33:04,945 --> 01:33:09,155
and soon to be replaced, modified,

1913
01:33:09,465 --> 01:33:12,465
amended, whatever the proper term is there.

1914
01:33:12,565 --> 01:33:17,475
We have a five year building plan. Yeah. So we do that too.

1915
01:33:17,495 --> 01:33:20,875
So we can try to avoid major spikes. Yeah.

1916
01:33:21,015 --> 01:33:22,075
Be consistent with it.

1917
01:33:23,085 --> 01:33:25,465
So yeah, I live in the house right across from the pull

1918
01:33:25,465 --> 01:33:27,985
off there as you're going into Will Will Williamstown

1919
01:33:28,565 --> 01:33:30,705
on the right that pull off, that big pull off there.

1920
01:33:31,305 --> 01:33:32,585
I know if you're familiar with it.

1921
01:33:33,365 --> 01:33:35,025
Oh yes, yes. And the Williamstown

1922
01:33:35,025 --> 01:33:36,145
right at the end of that storage

1923
01:33:36,145 --> 01:33:37,425
Units Across the street is me.

1924
01:33:38,125 --> 01:33:39,945
So I mean I'm seeing all kinds of

1925
01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:42,475
terrible potholes all the way up

1926
01:33:42,475 --> 01:33:43,835
and down that it's ridiculous.

1927
01:33:44,895 --> 01:33:46,555
So, and unfortunately we can't help you with

1928
01:33:46,555 --> 01:33:47,555
that particular stretch.

1929
01:33:48,895 --> 01:33:50,675
The only thing that we've call Mr. Flynn,

1930
01:33:53,905 --> 01:33:55,165
We call Mr. Flynn.

1931
01:33:55,205 --> 01:33:56,205
Is that what you said? Yeah.

1932
01:33:57,395 --> 01:34:00,325
Just so happens that his administrative

1933
01:34:01,325 --> 01:34:04,045
secretary sitting right here. Really?

1934
01:34:04,425 --> 01:34:06,245
So she's the one that didn't return my calls?

1935
01:34:07,685 --> 01:34:11,285
Probably not. I They don't return anybody's calls.

1936
01:34:11,285 --> 01:34:12,685
You probably still no calls too many.

1937
01:34:13,915 --> 01:34:15,925
That would just Me. I mean if I blow out one

1938
01:34:15,925 --> 01:34:18,165
of my tires on my truck, those tires go

1939
01:34:18,165 --> 01:34:21,165
for like 400 bucks a piece. So that's pretty

1940
01:34:21,755 --> 01:34:22,755
Yeah.

1941
01:34:22,755 --> 01:34:23,725
Irritating when that So

1942
01:34:23,725 --> 01:34:25,605
You, you have the electrical sign on the front end?

1943
01:34:25,755 --> 01:34:29,605
Yeah. Okay. I know exactly where you're at. I wonder.

1944
01:34:29,605 --> 01:34:31,725
Thank you for your interest and for showing up.

1945
01:34:31,955 --> 01:34:33,005
Yeah. Making an interest.

1946
01:34:33,185 --> 01:34:34,565
And we referenced the budget committee

1947
01:34:34,585 --> 01:34:36,165
and that's another one where we look for

1948
01:34:36,945 --> 01:34:38,685
public members to come join.

1949
01:34:39,425 --> 01:34:42,685
But budget, that's where you learn them ton.

1950
01:34:42,745 --> 01:34:46,785
The budget committee is the five of us and the,

1951
01:34:46,965 --> 01:34:48,625
and five members of the community.

1952
01:34:48,975 --> 01:34:50,825
Tina appoints one.

1953
01:34:51,685 --> 01:34:54,675
After we get the applications, we appoint two

1954
01:34:55,735 --> 01:34:57,820
and then collectively those three people

1955
01:34:58,135 --> 01:34:59,325
would select the other two.

1956
01:35:00,705 --> 01:35:03,205
And I think we take letters

1957
01:35:03,225 --> 01:35:04,405
for that till the end of December.

1958
01:35:04,415 --> 01:35:05,415
Chris

1959
01:35:05,835 --> 01:35:07,965
Usually till, we'll I'll start putting

1960
01:35:07,965 --> 01:35:09,645
that word out towards the end of November

1961
01:35:09,825 --> 01:35:14,205
and run the, keep that open until the end of December

1962
01:35:14,425 --> 01:35:18,605
and then you, the appointments will start

1963
01:35:18,605 --> 01:35:20,685
to happen right there around the 1st of January.

1964
01:35:22,195 --> 01:35:23,925
Then we start at the end of January.

1965
01:35:24,595 --> 01:35:25,925
I've been working with Katie for a

1966
01:35:25,925 --> 01:35:26,965
little while as you know.

1967
01:35:27,055 --> 01:35:30,325
Right. And she's been sending me some stuff, so.

1968
01:35:32,575 --> 01:35:37,055
So the budget process, you know it's line by line

1969
01:35:37,665 --> 01:35:40,615
takes, I think we've got it down to seven weeks now, Chris,

1970
01:35:40,765 --> 01:35:43,015
with an eighth for extra if we need it.

1971
01:35:43,475 --> 01:35:46,615
Yep. Much more streamlined than it was.

1972
01:35:46,615 --> 01:35:47,695
So not nearly as painful,

1973
01:35:48,835 --> 01:35:51,755
but great way to learn.

1974
01:35:51,865 --> 01:35:53,915
Yeah, so much of it's the nuts and bolts of everything.

1975
01:35:54,605 --> 01:35:57,885
Every dollar that goes through these, this building.

1976
01:35:58,145 --> 01:36:01,125
That's how I ended up here nine years ago. Yeah, me too.

1977
01:36:01,145 --> 01:36:02,685
That's where I, where I got started.

1978
01:36:03,145 --> 01:36:06,325
So what I, to to Bob's point, you know, you know, thank you

1979
01:36:06,325 --> 01:36:07,605
for showing interest in coming in.

1980
01:36:08,625 --> 01:36:10,965
One of the questions that gets asked every time somebody

1981
01:36:10,965 --> 01:36:13,355
applies for committee

1982
01:36:13,475 --> 01:36:16,635
or commission is have you attended a meeting

1983
01:36:16,655 --> 01:36:17,835
or have you watched a meeting?

1984
01:36:18,945 --> 01:36:22,405
And it's, it's shocking

1985
01:36:22,985 --> 01:36:24,525
how many people actually say no.

1986
01:36:26,145 --> 01:36:28,445
So just the fact that you're looking to get involved

1987
01:36:28,445 --> 01:36:32,875
with something and taking interest in it

1988
01:36:33,885 --> 01:36:36,785
all the DRB has got a packed meeting coming up.

1989
01:36:39,165 --> 01:36:42,545
What's the date on that, Chris? Is that August 12th?

1990
01:36:43,285 --> 01:36:45,625
It would be the second Wednesday in August, whatever.

1991
01:36:45,705 --> 01:36:48,625
I don't have that date firmly in hand but Yep.

1992
01:36:48,625 --> 01:36:52,785
August 12th it may have got a act meeting.

1993
01:36:52,985 --> 01:36:55,065
I think they have six or six

1994
01:36:55,085 --> 01:36:58,065
or seven subdivisions. Yep.

1995
01:36:58,525 --> 01:37:01,515
Yep. Something like that. I can't remember exactly.

1996
01:37:01,585 --> 01:37:04,565
That would be a good one to observe. Observe that board.

1997
01:37:04,705 --> 01:37:07,405
And of course all of these are available remotely too.

1998
01:37:07,425 --> 01:37:11,395
If you, if you were so shoes, I'd prefer in person

1999
01:37:11,675 --> 01:37:12,675
I Me too.

2000
01:37:13,415 --> 01:37:14,995
That's fine. That way nobody can get

2001
01:37:15,125 --> 01:37:19,555
muted. Still there.

2002
01:37:20,375 --> 01:37:21,835
You hear It? I'm still here

2003
01:37:24,695 --> 01:37:25,435
So. Alright.

2004
01:37:25,605 --> 01:37:28,715
Sorry David. That's okay.

2005
01:37:28,825 --> 01:37:30,795
I'll be there in person next meeting.

2006
01:37:31,365 --> 01:37:33,555
Right. You gotta defend Yourself. I miss my partner.

2007
01:37:34,665 --> 01:37:37,595
Yeah, Tina misses your company.

2008
01:37:39,465 --> 01:37:41,075
Well I miss being there in person.

2009
01:37:41,295 --> 01:37:44,595
It just seems that the meetings fall.

2010
01:37:45,255 --> 01:37:47,155
I'm off on every other week

2011
01:37:49,095 --> 01:37:50,095
So we're off.

2012
01:37:50,175 --> 01:37:51,175
So

2013
01:37:51,625 --> 01:37:52,625
Yeah, exactly.

2014
01:37:52,625 --> 01:37:53,535
Off by a,

2015
01:37:57,345 --> 01:37:58,555
Well make a motion

2016
01:37:58,575 --> 01:38:00,475
to adjourn if anyone's gonna object to that.

2017
01:38:00,855 --> 01:38:05,405
That's fine. Second. Second. Alright.

2018
01:38:05,465 --> 01:38:08,845
Non debatable. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

2019
01:38:10,015 --> 01:38:14,355
And Mr. Susie, safe travels Mr. Manager. Safe travels.

2020
01:38:17,535 --> 01:38:21,565
See you all. Thank you. Meeting you guys.

2021
01:38:22,235 --> 01:38:24,605
Yeah, pleasure. Absolutely. Nice to meet you.

2022
01:38:29,775 --> 01:38:30,775
X and David is now.