1 00:00:33,575 --> 00:00:34,995 It is six o'clock. 2 00:00:35,545 --> 00:00:37,955 This is the September 22nd meeting 3 00:00:37,975 --> 00:00:39,355 of the Beartown Select Board. 4 00:00:39,665 --> 00:00:41,155 I'll ask you to join me in the pledge. 5 00:00:46,735 --> 00:00:51,625 The flag, the Republic privilege stands 6 00:00:52,085 --> 00:00:57,025 on Indi Liberty for, 7 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:04,335 we have an agenda for us. 8 00:01:04,475 --> 00:01:06,015 Are there any changes to the agenda? 9 00:01:07,345 --> 00:01:10,985 I don't have any. None. I do a motion. 10 00:01:12,045 --> 00:01:14,305 Do we approve the agenda as presented? Second. 11 00:01:14,305 --> 00:01:18,595 That a second. All those in favor? 12 00:01:19,255 --> 00:01:23,605 Aye. Aye. Aye. And we don't have 13 00:01:24,885 --> 00:01:25,925 online yet, do we? 14 00:01:26,065 --> 00:01:29,425 We do not. So it looks like it's the three 15 00:01:29,425 --> 00:01:33,875 of us approve. 16 00:01:34,215 --> 00:01:38,435 We have to approve the September 8th, 2026, meeting minutes 17 00:01:43,345 --> 00:01:46,245 2026, meeting minutes with minor grammatical 18 00:01:46,265 --> 00:01:49,285 and spelling corrections as deemed necessary by the mayor. 19 00:01:49,925 --> 00:01:52,445 I would second that right. Motion to second. 20 00:01:52,625 --> 00:01:54,565 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. 21 00:01:58,245 --> 00:01:59,505 We have any announcements? 22 00:02:02,525 --> 00:02:05,945 No. The only thing I might mention is I started 23 00:02:05,945 --> 00:02:07,745 to put together, but then I wasn't sure about the, 24 00:02:07,845 --> 00:02:09,105 all the fact, all the facts. 25 00:02:09,205 --> 00:02:13,715 But October 3rd department 26 00:02:13,865 --> 00:02:18,155 posting in the annual fall festival at the rec field, 27 00:02:20,525 --> 00:02:23,995 we'll have a host of fun activities for kids 28 00:02:24,175 --> 00:02:26,135 and runs 10 to three. 29 00:02:27,115 --> 00:02:28,535 Be a touch a truck. 30 00:02:29,375 --> 00:02:33,115 And it's the police department saw Thunder Road Day. 31 00:02:34,735 --> 00:02:37,555 But I did wanna put that out there that 32 00:02:38,895 --> 00:02:40,875 that's coming out before your next meeting. 33 00:02:42,375 --> 00:02:44,355 Gotcha. Spiffy New bucket 34 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:47,615 voter from the clerk's office. 35 00:02:49,735 --> 00:02:53,735 Well, other than Secretary of State's office, 36 00:02:53,825 --> 00:02:58,175 began mailing early ballots to all active voters yesterday. 37 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:01,565 That will continue through October 1st. 38 00:03:02,385 --> 00:03:04,645 And if any resident doesn't receive their early 39 00:03:04,645 --> 00:03:05,885 ballot by mid-October, 40 00:03:09,385 --> 00:03:12,085 See your BYOB post Yes. Court 41 00:03:12,085 --> 00:03:13,085 Form. 42 00:03:13,085 --> 00:03:13,805 Yes. BYOB. 43 00:03:13,805 --> 00:03:17,365 That means bring your ballot to the poll with you, 44 00:03:17,475 --> 00:03:19,085 even if you're gonna vote in person. 45 00:03:19,625 --> 00:03:21,925 We have eliminated stock of ballots that Secretary 46 00:03:21,925 --> 00:03:22,965 of State did give us. 47 00:03:23,425 --> 00:03:25,845 So bringing your ballot will, number one, you will not have 48 00:03:25,845 --> 00:03:27,365 to sign an affidavit when you get there. 49 00:03:27,625 --> 00:03:30,245 And number two, help us with our limited stock of ballots. 50 00:03:31,255 --> 00:03:32,255 Well thank you. 51 00:03:36,625 --> 00:03:41,405 And hey, number six, receive guests for non-agenda items. 52 00:03:41,585 --> 00:03:42,925 And we have people in the room. 53 00:03:42,945 --> 00:03:45,165 And I know that she'd be expecting an update. 54 00:03:46,495 --> 00:03:49,645 Is that from us? Well, 55 00:03:50,785 --> 00:03:51,785 I'm Linda Mercy. 56 00:03:51,785 --> 00:03:52,805 You all know that? Yes. 57 00:03:53,425 --> 00:03:57,775 And we were here, the twins, Andy Henry. 58 00:03:58,165 --> 00:03:59,255 Melissa Smith. 59 00:04:00,165 --> 00:04:02,345 We were here the beginning of August 60 00:04:02,365 --> 00:04:04,305 to let you know there was gonna be a fundraiser 61 00:04:04,325 --> 00:04:06,505 and we wanted you all to come and blah, blah, blah. 62 00:04:06,965 --> 00:04:08,265 And it was a great day. 63 00:04:08,565 --> 00:04:13,225 And for the first time, having not knowing 64 00:04:13,535 --> 00:04:15,705 what to expect with motorcycles. 65 00:04:15,705 --> 00:04:18,105 We've done it for 25 years with snow machines. 66 00:04:18,165 --> 00:04:20,145 And we've always, you know, 67 00:04:20,225 --> 00:04:22,065 I was down pretty pat how that goes. 68 00:04:22,765 --> 00:04:26,185 We, we had an excellent day, great turnover, 69 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:27,985 turnout, excuse me. 70 00:04:27,995 --> 00:04:30,825 Great turnout. And we, 71 00:04:31,435 --> 00:04:33,065 after everything is paid 72 00:04:33,245 --> 00:04:36,625 and cleared, we dropped off a check to the town 73 00:04:36,725 --> 00:04:39,625 for $4,549. 74 00:04:39,845 --> 00:04:43,085 We cleared. So to the, to date, we have 75 00:04:43,605 --> 00:04:47,165 a little over $21,000 in that skate park fund. 76 00:04:47,715 --> 00:04:50,205 It's gonna go toward the new structure. 77 00:04:51,245 --> 00:04:54,045 The new structure guy was, and I have been talking 78 00:04:54,185 --> 00:04:56,525 and it's not gonna be getting now until spring 79 00:04:56,525 --> 00:05:00,005 because due the lateness, it's gonna freeze and all that. 80 00:05:00,145 --> 00:05:02,925 So CATME Construction is gonna start 81 00:05:03,145 --> 00:05:06,405 and we're gonna be the first ones on in April or May. 82 00:05:07,225 --> 00:05:09,805 So, so we find, you know, like Randy, 83 00:05:10,015 --> 00:05:11,685 Randy is the event coordinator. 84 00:05:11,745 --> 00:05:16,245 He put this together. He was the main go-to person. 85 00:05:16,375 --> 00:05:20,525 Randy Henry, Melissa Smith, I don't have the title. 86 00:05:21,095 --> 00:05:23,325 Membership Director. Membership director. 87 00:05:23,745 --> 00:05:28,125 She was, did a tremendous job that day as well as my family 88 00:05:28,305 --> 00:05:31,365 and for everybody that's been there for the last 26 years. 89 00:05:31,625 --> 00:05:35,085 So you thank the rec department? 90 00:05:35,145 --> 00:05:36,445 The rec department was great. 91 00:05:36,445 --> 00:05:38,845 Those guys were, helped us put the tents up, 92 00:05:38,845 --> 00:05:43,125 helped take the tents down, made sure the lawn was all mow, 93 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:46,285 everything was clean over there and did a great job. 94 00:05:46,545 --> 00:05:49,875 So I don't know if you have anything you'd like to say. 95 00:05:53,355 --> 00:05:55,735 We were honored to be able to participate 96 00:05:55,735 --> 00:05:56,855 and put it on for the 97 00:05:57,215 --> 00:05:58,565 Motorcycle for the first time. 98 00:05:58,585 --> 00:06:01,445 And I think it's, we're gonna try to do it again next year. 99 00:06:01,625 --> 00:06:04,885 So, and we learned some, some things we should have done. 100 00:06:04,945 --> 00:06:08,325 Things we we won't do again. Things we will do again. 101 00:06:09,495 --> 00:06:12,885 First time around, I thought it went remarkably well. Later 102 00:06:12,885 --> 00:06:13,885 Start. 103 00:06:13,885 --> 00:06:14,645 Yeah, later start. 104 00:06:14,955 --> 00:06:18,085 Like some of those guys are kind of wissy getting up at, 105 00:06:18,105 --> 00:06:21,205 you know, eight I get on Saturday is not 106 00:06:21,205 --> 00:06:22,525 what they wanna do. So. 107 00:06:22,795 --> 00:06:24,925 Well it's cold on a motorcycle too. Right? Exactly. 108 00:06:26,705 --> 00:06:29,925 Fair weather riders. Exactly. Randy to do, 109 00:06:29,995 --> 00:06:30,995 We'd like to do it again there. 110 00:06:31,505 --> 00:06:32,505 Do it there again. 111 00:06:33,255 --> 00:06:34,335 I mean we should be able 112 00:06:34,335 --> 00:06:35,895 to do it there again. I mean, unless you, 113 00:06:35,965 --> 00:06:37,175 That would be for the, 114 00:06:37,195 --> 00:06:39,175 for the recreation board and coordinating the guy. 115 00:06:39,195 --> 00:06:41,095 But I, I don't see any, why not? 116 00:06:41,115 --> 00:06:42,815 We typically hear when things go bad 117 00:06:42,875 --> 00:06:45,055 and we hear anything, so that's always good. 118 00:06:45,525 --> 00:06:47,215 Good. We didn't hear anything 119 00:06:47,215 --> 00:06:48,575 either, so that was a good thing. 120 00:06:49,195 --> 00:06:51,775 So would you say you're gonna do it again next year? 121 00:06:51,775 --> 00:06:53,015 You gonna try to make this an annual 122 00:06:53,015 --> 00:06:54,255 thing, like the snowmobile ride? 123 00:06:54,355 --> 00:06:57,845 I'd like to make it annual. Got a little later. 124 00:06:58,155 --> 00:07:01,005 Keep on bikes. We get a lot of our members from Maine 125 00:07:01,005 --> 00:07:02,005 and New York and stuff. 126 00:07:02,065 --> 00:07:04,585 So eight o'clock's a little early for 'em, 127 00:07:04,965 --> 00:07:06,425 So they Get three hours. 128 00:07:07,375 --> 00:07:09,705 That time of year was good though. Yeah. Yeah. 129 00:07:09,705 --> 00:07:12,985 That time of year it was right before school started 130 00:07:13,165 --> 00:07:14,225 and everything else. 131 00:07:14,405 --> 00:07:17,065 The summer was kind of ending and everything. 132 00:07:17,065 --> 00:07:20,995 It was, it was good for us. So, so hopefully, yes. 133 00:07:21,015 --> 00:07:25,275 And then the snowmobilers are gonna do it again in February, 134 00:07:25,435 --> 00:07:26,555 I think they don't have a date yet, 135 00:07:26,555 --> 00:07:29,095 but we'll be coming up doing that again. 136 00:07:30,105 --> 00:07:32,855 Still using the school. Oh, to use the school. 137 00:07:32,915 --> 00:07:36,935 Of course we had, you know, Dave was the head, you know, 138 00:07:37,075 --> 00:07:38,215 he did all that. 139 00:07:38,675 --> 00:07:40,855 So now Mark Tetro is doing all that. 140 00:07:41,465 --> 00:07:45,015 We're very good friends with Mark, so we'll be working 141 00:07:45,015 --> 00:07:49,245 with him anyway. 142 00:07:49,245 --> 00:07:51,085 Thank you guys. Thank you for the Thank you, 143 00:07:51,085 --> 00:07:52,085 Thank you. 144 00:07:52,295 --> 00:07:54,925 Thank you for your contribution to the town and, 145 00:07:54,945 --> 00:07:59,645 and keeping this park viable and useful and aging the youth 146 00:07:59,785 --> 00:08:02,485 and forward to the new structure. 147 00:08:03,065 --> 00:08:05,285 And you know what too, a good thing was a couple 148 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:09,365 of the young younger kids came out and they really helped us 149 00:08:09,625 --> 00:08:12,765 and they, they, it just shows them that in order to keep 150 00:08:12,765 --> 00:08:15,245 that park up, they, they really need to step up 151 00:08:15,465 --> 00:08:17,205 and, you know, keep it clean 152 00:08:17,385 --> 00:08:19,925 and make sure you know, bad language over there. 153 00:08:20,025 --> 00:08:21,605 And they were fantastic. 154 00:08:22,425 --> 00:08:23,845 So they've been in contact with me 155 00:08:23,845 --> 00:08:27,045 and they wanna do the one in February too, so That's good. 156 00:08:27,715 --> 00:08:29,445 It's a, it's a very well used park. 157 00:08:29,665 --> 00:08:32,445 It is for sure. Harry and I walk up there all the time 158 00:08:32,505 --> 00:08:35,045 and it's, unless it's we're walking at seven in the morning, 159 00:08:35,045 --> 00:08:36,165 there's never anybody there 160 00:08:36,505 --> 00:08:37,505 That's raining. 161 00:08:37,625 --> 00:08:39,445 And even sometimes you find a diehard 162 00:08:39,715 --> 00:08:40,715 True. 163 00:08:40,715 --> 00:08:41,245 You're right. You're absolutely right. 164 00:08:41,385 --> 00:08:44,525 And that's one of the boys that helped us is a diehard kid 165 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:47,725 that's up there and he just really enjoys it. 166 00:08:48,525 --> 00:08:51,465 So, so thank you. Thank you. You thank you Linda. 167 00:08:52,485 --> 00:08:53,705 Really appreciate it. Thank you. 168 00:08:53,845 --> 00:08:55,525 The v twins for your virtual birthday. Definitely. 169 00:08:56,535 --> 00:08:59,035 All set. We're gonna out 170 00:08:59,105 --> 00:09:02,625 guys. And alright, 171 00:09:03,085 --> 00:09:04,585 We have Michael Miller again. 172 00:09:04,605 --> 00:09:08,665 He never has anything. Mr. Jerome is here. 173 00:09:09,375 --> 00:09:11,385 Next items. So down. 174 00:09:13,545 --> 00:09:17,075 Good evening. Josh Jerome with DADC is going 175 00:09:17,075 --> 00:09:18,635 to give us an executive director's, 176 00:09:18,915 --> 00:09:19,955 I guess you'd say. Occasional 177 00:09:19,955 --> 00:09:20,955 Report. 178 00:09:20,955 --> 00:09:22,995 Yeah, definitely Apologize 179 00:09:23,175 --> 00:09:24,755 for not coming here sooner this year. 180 00:09:26,355 --> 00:09:29,075 I think every time I reached out the agenda was full 181 00:09:29,135 --> 00:09:30,955 or an opportunity. 182 00:09:31,155 --> 00:09:34,135 I wasn't available. But as long 183 00:09:34,135 --> 00:09:37,015 as you're busy doing the good work of the, that you need 184 00:09:37,015 --> 00:09:40,565 to do, that's more important than, you know. 185 00:09:41,105 --> 00:09:42,965 So I'll give you guys an update in 186 00:09:43,155 --> 00:09:45,085 what I've been doing in Berry Town. 187 00:09:46,475 --> 00:09:49,925 It's this year. So first, first started with reaching out 188 00:09:49,925 --> 00:09:52,965 to property owners who own commercial space in all 189 00:09:52,965 --> 00:09:55,685 of the village centers on Berry Town. 190 00:09:55,685 --> 00:09:58,845 We have four of 'em. See if there was any projects 191 00:09:58,845 --> 00:10:01,645 that would qualify for the center 192 00:10:02,305 --> 00:10:04,405 tax credit state. 193 00:10:05,645 --> 00:10:07,405 I had two property owners reach out 194 00:10:07,905 --> 00:10:09,765 and then engage conversations 195 00:10:09,765 --> 00:10:11,525 with 'em about their, their projects. 196 00:10:12,535 --> 00:10:15,125 Eventually one of 'em decided not to pursue it 197 00:10:15,325 --> 00:10:16,885 'cause they had experience with that program 198 00:10:17,305 --> 00:10:19,965 and wanna jump through all the stay hoops. 199 00:10:20,555 --> 00:10:25,245 Totally understandable. I think been a competitive project. 200 00:10:25,925 --> 00:10:29,085 And the, and the other project, it's the 201 00:10:29,085 --> 00:10:30,125 Granville general store. 202 00:10:32,375 --> 00:10:36,945 This program, we tried to develop a project where 203 00:10:38,175 --> 00:10:41,565 work that she had already done the beginning 204 00:10:41,565 --> 00:10:42,685 of the year, we could qualify. 205 00:10:43,325 --> 00:10:46,565 'cause you can, you can submit an application with the state 206 00:10:47,205 --> 00:10:50,895 project is ongoing but not complete. 207 00:10:51,195 --> 00:10:53,015 So it is just a matter 208 00:10:53,075 --> 00:10:55,815 of just like terminology that you're using. 209 00:10:55,955 --> 00:10:59,815 So we tried to figure out what the other code improvements 210 00:10:59,925 --> 00:11:01,615 that structure needed 211 00:11:03,515 --> 00:11:05,615 and tried to engage the fire marshal 212 00:11:05,795 --> 00:11:08,175 and we just couldn't find anything 213 00:11:08,175 --> 00:11:09,695 that was gonna be competitive. 214 00:11:10,715 --> 00:11:14,695 And so we, we got gave above above one. So she, 215 00:11:15,045 --> 00:11:16,815 Between a and a hard place There. 216 00:11:16,955 --> 00:11:18,055 She totally was, you know, 217 00:11:18,235 --> 00:11:19,815 She, she had a door that she couldn't 218 00:11:19,815 --> 00:11:21,735 fix fixing the stairs. 219 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:23,935 She couldn't fix the stairs unless she made it accessible. 220 00:11:24,975 --> 00:11:27,195 Timing just wasn't on her side of, you know, if 221 00:11:28,095 --> 00:11:29,955 so tried to make it work, didn't work. 222 00:11:30,135 --> 00:11:32,595 But you know, it came out beautiful. It did. 223 00:11:33,095 --> 00:11:35,875 It came out great. And, and so, 224 00:11:36,015 --> 00:11:40,115 but that is a program that, you know, I I'm gonna continue 225 00:11:40,175 --> 00:11:43,115 to engage property owners in the, in the designated centers, 226 00:11:43,385 --> 00:11:44,475 village center areas 227 00:11:45,475 --> 00:11:47,435 because Baytown has never gotten, 228 00:11:47,435 --> 00:11:48,635 got an award in that program. 229 00:11:48,815 --> 00:11:50,875 And I, and I think there's some opportunities there. 230 00:11:50,875 --> 00:11:54,565 I've already talked to one business owner about a property 231 00:11:55,185 --> 00:11:57,485 in one of the village centers just in the last two weeks. 232 00:11:59,295 --> 00:12:00,825 They had looked at this property, 233 00:12:01,375 --> 00:12:03,865 purchased it at one point they backed away 234 00:12:03,865 --> 00:12:06,545 because of some code improvements that were required. 235 00:12:06,685 --> 00:12:09,465 So I, I told 'em, told this person about the, the program 236 00:12:09,645 --> 00:12:12,305 and I said, let's keep the dialogue going 237 00:12:12,445 --> 00:12:16,745 and see if we can figure out a way that helps him get to a, 238 00:12:16,865 --> 00:12:19,225 a guest to want to purchase that, that building. 239 00:12:19,225 --> 00:12:21,505 Because I know the owner would love to sell it. 240 00:12:22,845 --> 00:12:24,745 And, and maybe that can make a difference, you know. 241 00:12:26,335 --> 00:12:29,835 And so, you know, we'll just continue to hammer that, this, 242 00:12:29,865 --> 00:12:32,195 this at the end of this year, beginning of next year. 243 00:12:33,345 --> 00:12:34,485 The other big sort 244 00:12:34,485 --> 00:12:37,525 of push was obviously the Wilson Industrial Park. 245 00:12:38,705 --> 00:12:42,445 You know, we tried to get a bunch of businesses together 246 00:12:43,145 --> 00:12:47,085 who were interested in getting solidated fiber from 247 00:12:47,085 --> 00:12:48,485 through the park because 248 00:12:48,485 --> 00:12:49,645 it doesn't go through the whole park. 249 00:12:50,505 --> 00:12:54,245 And we had heard, you know, that were issues what 250 00:12:55,205 --> 00:12:56,545 the existing service there 251 00:12:58,005 --> 00:13:00,945 and solid, solid came back 252 00:13:00,945 --> 00:13:02,345 and was like, there's an issue with them 253 00:13:02,455 --> 00:13:04,545 because they have to go underneath the hour tracks. 254 00:13:05,265 --> 00:13:08,085 That's just, they pain in the ass for them. 255 00:13:08,825 --> 00:13:12,245 And, and it requires them to know that they're going 256 00:13:12,265 --> 00:13:14,525 to get a certain return on that investment. 257 00:13:15,755 --> 00:13:17,135 And so, you know, 258 00:13:17,755 --> 00:13:19,975 it just didn't seem like there was enough businesses 259 00:13:20,115 --> 00:13:23,135 to provide that return on investment for them. 260 00:13:23,715 --> 00:13:26,415 So, you know, this is like a conversation 261 00:13:26,415 --> 00:13:27,495 that's just ongoing. 262 00:13:27,915 --> 00:13:31,495 We can get a certain number of businesses to say yes 263 00:13:32,925 --> 00:13:35,055 that could jump to their service. 264 00:13:35,725 --> 00:13:37,815 Then they might run it under, 265 00:13:37,815 --> 00:13:39,335 underneath the railroad tracks and go through that process. 266 00:13:40,385 --> 00:13:45,135 What do you have at the DPW shop? First slide? 267 00:13:46,225 --> 00:13:49,485 First light fiber. Yeah. Yeah. 268 00:13:49,865 --> 00:13:52,125 The other, the other service in the park is, 269 00:13:58,565 --> 00:14:00,145 Is it fit or consolidated 270 00:14:00,605 --> 00:14:01,985 Or Yeah, they're one and the same. 271 00:14:02,135 --> 00:14:03,905 Yeah. Right. Spectrum would be the only, 272 00:14:04,005 --> 00:14:05,865 so under spectrum, that's what it is. 273 00:14:06,015 --> 00:14:07,265 It's, you know, I definitely, 274 00:14:07,535 --> 00:14:11,145 I've heard it from a couple businesses like FBOs, 275 00:14:11,145 --> 00:14:12,705 passive dimension like that. 276 00:14:12,705 --> 00:14:17,425 They are sort of like the net heavy and when it goes out, 277 00:14:17,665 --> 00:14:21,025 'cause it has gone out, they have to close up shop 278 00:14:21,025 --> 00:14:22,865 for the day, can doing what, 279 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:25,475 and so, you know, that that's, that's a problem. 280 00:14:25,925 --> 00:14:29,075 Right. So again, we, you know, we're just gonna continue to 281 00:14:29,425 --> 00:14:32,515 that dialogue, communications open 282 00:14:33,215 --> 00:14:35,875 and bring in the consolidated people and maybe, you know, 283 00:14:36,225 --> 00:14:37,995 Have you talked to Firstlight at all? 284 00:14:38,315 --> 00:14:40,155 I was gonna say if, If 'cause they're at the, 285 00:14:40,415 --> 00:14:43,915 if they're at our public works station shop, 286 00:14:44,475 --> 00:14:46,075 I haven't talked to Firstlight now and 287 00:14:46,465 --> 00:14:49,915 It's not that far down Parker Road, all these businesses. 288 00:14:50,185 --> 00:14:53,285 Okay, well I'll, I can give you a contact for sure. 289 00:14:53,285 --> 00:14:55,735 It comes in from Well that's what I was just thinking, 290 00:14:55,735 --> 00:14:57,415 like is there a way to come down this road here, 291 00:14:58,405 --> 00:14:59,515 shoot out that way. 292 00:14:59,515 --> 00:15:00,595 It might be a lot more complicated. Well, even 293 00:15:00,595 --> 00:15:02,875 If you got, if you got fiber from one side of the tracks 294 00:15:02,875 --> 00:15:04,795 and then fiber from the other side of the tracks, I mean, 295 00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:07,015 Yeah, I don't know, 296 00:15:07,015 --> 00:15:08,975 but I'll give you, I'll give you a contact. 297 00:15:09,045 --> 00:15:10,335 Yeah, that that'd be great. 298 00:15:11,685 --> 00:15:13,975 Imagine a fiber optic line underneath a set 299 00:15:13,975 --> 00:15:17,885 of railroad tracks is a very good, 300 00:15:18,845 --> 00:15:20,885 I mean That, I don't think we're talking a very big 301 00:15:20,885 --> 00:15:21,965 line there either. 302 00:15:22,025 --> 00:15:23,605 You know, problem with 303 00:15:23,605 --> 00:15:26,565 that is the railroad requires an case and all this other stuff. 304 00:15:27,465 --> 00:15:29,845 So it's a, it's not just a matter of 305 00:15:30,885 --> 00:15:32,105 actual drilling underneath. 306 00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:35,905 There's a lot to it. They need a, if it's not concrete, 307 00:15:35,925 --> 00:15:40,425 in case it's gonna be certain steel enc, casement so, so big 308 00:15:41,005 --> 00:15:42,625 you could also have the right way to do it 309 00:15:42,625 --> 00:15:46,625 because they own found a lot to it Yeah. 310 00:15:46,855 --> 00:15:50,065 Process, you know, you know, just for, if like, 311 00:15:50,065 --> 00:15:52,305 if it's only two or three business gonna sign up, right, 312 00:15:52,305 --> 00:15:55,945 they're not gonna go with that. So maybe we 313 00:15:55,945 --> 00:15:57,225 Could get around going underneath the 314 00:15:57,385 --> 00:15:58,385 Railroad tracks. 315 00:15:58,385 --> 00:15:58,985 That would be, that would be great. 316 00:15:59,005 --> 00:16:01,345 So thanks Chris for the context. 317 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,115 You know, and, 318 00:16:04,455 --> 00:16:05,915 and obviously you guys have already heard 319 00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:09,565 Chris about just issues 320 00:16:09,565 --> 00:16:11,885 regarding the wastewater treat facility 321 00:16:12,395 --> 00:16:15,995 affects Mount Creamery, our wastewater discharge permit 322 00:16:16,835 --> 00:16:18,275 with the state and conditions 323 00:16:18,275 --> 00:16:19,915 that the state has imposed on them. 324 00:16:20,465 --> 00:16:24,915 This is an ongoing conversation that I have Mount creamery 325 00:16:25,055 --> 00:16:29,675 and state officials because it's, it's critically important 326 00:16:30,655 --> 00:16:34,315 to resolve this positively for the town 327 00:16:34,815 --> 00:16:36,435 or region for the state. 328 00:16:37,655 --> 00:16:39,235 And so I, 329 00:16:39,295 --> 00:16:41,435 we have another meeting coming up here in a few more weeks 330 00:16:42,185 --> 00:16:43,475 with all the stakeholders. 331 00:16:44,775 --> 00:16:48,435 You know, the conditions that the state has focused on 332 00:16:48,435 --> 00:16:52,075 that discharge permit are pretty steep. 333 00:16:53,735 --> 00:16:55,915 And, and it's a question whether 334 00:16:55,915 --> 00:16:58,555 or not the can actually meet that 335 00:16:58,875 --> 00:17:01,355 and the timeline that state is stipulating. 336 00:17:01,575 --> 00:17:02,835 So, you know, I think that's 337 00:17:03,035 --> 00:17:05,155 what the general conversation is, is trying 338 00:17:05,155 --> 00:17:08,035 to figure out like where there's flexibility with the state 339 00:17:08,055 --> 00:17:12,515 and the permit and timeline 340 00:17:12,735 --> 00:17:15,545 and for the conditions, right? 341 00:17:15,645 --> 00:17:18,265 We all understand that the state's up against sort of like, 342 00:17:18,725 --> 00:17:20,705 hey, coming down on them so it, 343 00:17:20,725 --> 00:17:23,235 you know, it's downhill, right? 344 00:17:24,295 --> 00:17:27,155 But there's, there's gotta be some flexibility in, 345 00:17:27,175 --> 00:17:30,155 in the end because attention, 346 00:17:30,345 --> 00:17:32,035 like look at all the other sort 347 00:17:32,035 --> 00:17:33,635 of dairy processors in the state 348 00:17:33,665 --> 00:17:37,315 that have closed on the one right here, which also had 349 00:17:37,825 --> 00:17:39,715 same conditions, you know? 350 00:17:41,095 --> 00:17:42,955 And so again, that was a 351 00:17:42,955 --> 00:17:44,075 Death by a thousand cuts. 352 00:17:44,175 --> 00:17:45,595 Yes. No, no, absolutely. 353 00:17:46,455 --> 00:17:47,875 And so again, we we're just, 354 00:17:47,895 --> 00:17:50,445 we wanna keep the conversation going, keep it positive 355 00:17:50,665 --> 00:17:52,405 and try to find common ground. 356 00:17:54,595 --> 00:17:57,965 Hopefully we will have some, you know, news to report 357 00:17:58,095 --> 00:17:59,125 after the next meeting. 358 00:17:59,595 --> 00:18:00,605 It's at the end of October. 359 00:18:04,835 --> 00:18:07,375 It is one of the projects that I am sponsoring 360 00:18:08,685 --> 00:18:13,125 priority project list that happens every year through Sun, 361 00:18:13,365 --> 00:18:16,205 the regional plan or the economic development corporation, 362 00:18:16,365 --> 00:18:17,805 C-B-E-D-C, right? 363 00:18:17,805 --> 00:18:19,165 Those, those applications are, 364 00:18:19,225 --> 00:18:20,845 are coming due here in the next few weeks. 365 00:18:21,625 --> 00:18:23,805 And that, that is one I'm going to submit 366 00:18:24,565 --> 00:18:28,965 because again, it's important for projects, critical import 367 00:18:29,565 --> 00:18:31,205 critical projects to be put on that list 368 00:18:31,205 --> 00:18:33,725 because that is the, ultimately that is the list 369 00:18:33,725 --> 00:18:36,685 that the state uses to award grants for the next year. 370 00:18:38,145 --> 00:18:39,965 So, you know, the program comes up 371 00:18:39,985 --> 00:18:43,205 and state finds money for something 372 00:18:43,205 --> 00:18:45,245 that can help throughout creamery and it's on the list. 373 00:18:45,245 --> 00:18:47,725 Then they have a better chance of securing some 374 00:18:47,725 --> 00:18:51,045 of those sprint, see those jobs go away. 375 00:18:51,045 --> 00:18:52,565 Are they two or three shifts now? 376 00:18:53,035 --> 00:18:54,045 Just feel like they're three 377 00:18:54,045 --> 00:18:55,045 Shifts. 378 00:18:56,715 --> 00:18:58,635 I think that least the third shift might be 379 00:18:58,635 --> 00:19:00,075 more of a cleaning shift. 380 00:19:01,185 --> 00:19:03,115 They're product producing on three shifts, 381 00:19:03,215 --> 00:19:04,875 but there's a lot of a lot of jobs there. 382 00:19:04,875 --> 00:19:06,955 There's a lot of good paying jobs. They paying jobs. Yes. 383 00:19:07,175 --> 00:19:10,555 The thing is is that this is tricky 384 00:19:10,555 --> 00:19:12,685 because right, 385 00:19:13,935 --> 00:19:16,905 it's not just like the state saying you need 386 00:19:18,005 --> 00:19:20,345 pre pretreatment discharge system. 387 00:19:21,565 --> 00:19:23,505 It, it's also compounded by the fact that 388 00:19:24,315 --> 00:19:26,505 wastewater treatment facility, it's 389 00:19:26,505 --> 00:19:27,985 beyond its design capacity. 390 00:19:28,445 --> 00:19:33,265 Thanks. It's like, it's not an easy solution. 391 00:19:35,815 --> 00:19:39,595 So again, you know, because facilities 392 00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:42,675 beyond their design capacity, we're continuing 393 00:19:42,675 --> 00:19:45,435 to have conversations state figure out 394 00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:50,135 where in there is flexibility here, city 395 00:19:50,275 --> 00:19:51,535 and their issues 396 00:19:52,195 --> 00:19:54,415 and with the, the high end users of the system. 397 00:19:55,075 --> 00:19:56,735 So it's, it's, it's different, 398 00:19:56,735 --> 00:19:58,655 different components, but it's holistically 399 00:19:58,915 --> 00:20:00,375 The last meeting, it was brought up, 400 00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:02,175 brought up a few times and we're hoping to hear 401 00:20:02,175 --> 00:20:04,055 that there's been some progress at the next meeting. 402 00:20:04,075 --> 00:20:08,165 And that's some internal housekeeping we've been kind 403 00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:10,245 of asking for and that they've seemed 404 00:20:10,245 --> 00:20:12,685 to have embraced since our last meeting 405 00:20:12,865 --> 00:20:16,825 and just 406 00:20:17,085 --> 00:20:20,465 how they handle it internally, you know, making sure that 407 00:20:21,265 --> 00:20:24,065 things are being the way they should be instead 408 00:20:24,065 --> 00:20:25,625 of being washed down the drain 409 00:20:26,085 --> 00:20:27,085 The cream rate. 410 00:20:28,205 --> 00:20:30,945 But the reality is it's like, you know, they've been, 411 00:20:30,945 --> 00:20:32,385 they've been trying to make improvements 412 00:20:32,385 --> 00:20:34,905 and they can, you know, they can collect data, which, 413 00:20:35,005 --> 00:20:37,065 you know, hopefully that's, that's one 414 00:20:37,065 --> 00:20:39,185 of the arguments is like they don't have enough data 415 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:43,265 to support sort of the state saying you need X, Y, and Z. 416 00:20:43,265 --> 00:20:47,485 Right? So they wanna have a longer trail of, of data to, 417 00:20:47,505 --> 00:20:51,165 to be able to make some decisions on are they using the 418 00:20:51,165 --> 00:20:52,885 monitoring pits now? 419 00:20:53,075 --> 00:20:54,125 Yeah. Yeah. 420 00:20:55,785 --> 00:21:00,475 But they can't, they can't change their, their practices 421 00:21:01,515 --> 00:21:04,795 sufficient enough to reduce like 422 00:21:04,825 --> 00:21:06,635 significantly the BOD. 423 00:21:06,645 --> 00:21:08,475 Right. You know, it's just, it just happens. 424 00:21:09,105 --> 00:21:10,315 They are making improvements. 425 00:21:10,315 --> 00:21:11,435 They, they recognize that, 426 00:21:11,855 --> 00:21:14,195 but they're still gonna generate BOD 427 00:21:14,215 --> 00:21:16,195 and it's still gonna go through the system. 428 00:21:16,335 --> 00:21:18,355 And so again, 429 00:21:18,365 --> 00:21:20,875 we'll just keep on having those conversations. The 430 00:21:20,875 --> 00:21:22,435 Thing we learned as part of that conversation 431 00:21:22,535 --> 00:21:27,185 and you know, it was them talking to us, so, you know, 432 00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:29,105 you have to, but I I, I believe it. 433 00:21:30,295 --> 00:21:31,705 Yeah, they're owned by Land O'Lakes, 434 00:21:32,645 --> 00:21:37,545 but they're really stand on their own Land O'Lakes looks at 435 00:21:37,545 --> 00:21:41,065 them as, you know, you need, you need to be profitable here. 436 00:21:41,205 --> 00:21:44,705 And so the management here is, is kind of, you know, 437 00:21:44,735 --> 00:21:48,905 operating this facility as Vermont Creamery 438 00:21:49,125 --> 00:21:50,985 and, you know, don't necessarily, yeah, 439 00:21:50,985 --> 00:21:53,105 they have maybe deeper pockets, 440 00:21:53,685 --> 00:21:55,545 but not necessarily at the same time. 441 00:21:56,245 --> 00:22:00,955 So yeah. So I think the conversation's good for sure. 442 00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:04,835 I mean obviously there are issues, we've experienced issues 443 00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:08,195 with our system and that, and it all needs to be looked at 444 00:22:08,195 --> 00:22:10,595 and addressed, but hopefully we can come up with some, 445 00:22:11,345 --> 00:22:13,635 some way to, you know, make it work for them, 446 00:22:13,635 --> 00:22:15,705 but also make it better for us, 447 00:22:15,705 --> 00:22:17,785 better for the treatment plan. Yeah. In time 448 00:22:18,305 --> 00:22:21,545 I have faith they're having flooded Sterling Hill 449 00:22:21,545 --> 00:22:23,145 with three feet of foam in a long way. 450 00:22:23,945 --> 00:22:24,985 I guess that's a good thing. 451 00:22:25,815 --> 00:22:27,745 Well it sort of related to that, you know, 452 00:22:27,745 --> 00:22:31,545 brick riding the hood facility, I don't, I don't, 453 00:22:31,555 --> 00:22:33,465 don't get a lot of information from them. 454 00:22:34,005 --> 00:22:35,585 You know, they're just barely using it. 455 00:22:35,865 --> 00:22:39,625 I did speak with one individual who, who had 456 00:22:40,405 --> 00:22:44,825 signed an NBA wood hood about potential purchase of 457 00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:49,385 that asset to start up a, a business that was sort 458 00:22:49,385 --> 00:22:52,025 of related to the beverage sector. 459 00:22:53,845 --> 00:22:58,705 It, it, it seemed like a, it wasn't a viable sort 460 00:22:58,705 --> 00:23:01,945 of proposal, but I, 461 00:23:02,935 --> 00:23:04,695 I wouldn't be surprised if it came back up again 462 00:23:05,645 --> 00:23:07,015 because it is an asset 463 00:23:07,035 --> 00:23:09,015 and they seem pretty interested in it, 464 00:23:12,015 --> 00:23:13,875 you know, and, and again, just kind of back 465 00:23:13,935 --> 00:23:16,675 to the Wilson Industrial Park, you know, I think 466 00:23:17,305 --> 00:23:18,835 this past legislative session, 467 00:23:19,905 --> 00:23:22,555 Vermont's already a hard state to do business in. 468 00:23:22,605 --> 00:23:24,395 Right. High tax rate. 469 00:23:25,055 --> 00:23:28,035 And, and there was a moment during the legislative session 470 00:23:28,085 --> 00:23:32,345 where I think there was a representative 471 00:23:32,615 --> 00:23:37,385 that had pushed for sort of like a higher tax rate 472 00:23:37,645 --> 00:23:38,705 for, you know, 473 00:23:38,705 --> 00:23:40,945 high income earners, businesses, stuff like that. 474 00:23:41,365 --> 00:23:45,885 And I know that scared away at least one business owner 475 00:23:46,025 --> 00:23:49,365 who was thinking about opening up a, 476 00:23:50,005 --> 00:23:53,365 a facility at the Wilson Industrial Park, they kind 477 00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:55,685 of made the decision that they weren't gonna make an 478 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:56,685 investment in this state 479 00:23:56,685 --> 00:24:00,205 because they just business friendly. 480 00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,605 And so why would they, so that was unfortunate 481 00:24:04,075 --> 00:24:06,885 because I think that piece of legislation came from 482 00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:08,965 a very city 483 00:24:09,065 --> 00:24:12,965 representative, unfortunately. 484 00:24:15,275 --> 00:24:16,735 But the other things 485 00:24:16,735 --> 00:24:18,335 that we worked on had been working on 486 00:24:18,395 --> 00:24:19,495 is just marketing the park. 487 00:24:21,035 --> 00:24:22,535 You know, regular Facebook ads. 488 00:24:22,555 --> 00:24:23,695 We run every once in a while 489 00:24:23,695 --> 00:24:26,175 and we change up the, and all that kind of stuff. 490 00:24:26,275 --> 00:24:31,055 But we did A-W-C-E-X spot with the Wilson Industrial Park 491 00:24:32,275 --> 00:24:33,455 in the beginning of the summer 492 00:24:34,155 --> 00:24:38,805 and, you know, 32nd ad it was run over a period of, 493 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:41,445 I think 10 days, 14 days, something like that. 494 00:24:42,505 --> 00:24:46,805 We had a, a native piece on their website also, 495 00:24:48,305 --> 00:24:51,485 you know, and that, and that generated about 270,000 496 00:24:51,485 --> 00:24:56,325 impressions with households with the, the, 497 00:24:56,425 --> 00:24:59,845 the TV spotted about 170,000 impressions 498 00:25:00,025 --> 00:25:03,485 and a hundred thousand for the, the native piece 499 00:25:03,675 --> 00:25:04,885 that, that we developed. 500 00:25:06,665 --> 00:25:09,725 And so, you know, we could see, you know, people would go 501 00:25:09,745 --> 00:25:12,725 and click on and follow through to get more information. 502 00:25:13,665 --> 00:25:15,765 And so that was something that we never done before. 503 00:25:15,765 --> 00:25:17,485 We hadn't worked with WCAX 504 00:25:17,745 --> 00:25:19,285 and we're just trying something different. 505 00:25:19,965 --> 00:25:23,325 And actually we're, we're doing another shoot 506 00:25:23,325 --> 00:25:25,565 with them this Thursday actually. 507 00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:28,405 And it's, and it's focused on the nitro trails system 508 00:25:29,765 --> 00:25:32,285 'cause it's beautiful out there this time of year. 509 00:25:32,295 --> 00:25:33,925 Gonna get some good drone footage 510 00:25:35,505 --> 00:25:38,085 and shots of the, the system. 511 00:25:38,855 --> 00:25:41,805 We'll run a spot. I think we're, we're shooting 512 00:25:41,945 --> 00:25:44,485 for the first or second week of October. 513 00:25:45,005 --> 00:25:46,165 I think it's the week of the fifth 514 00:25:46,885 --> 00:25:48,005 that we're shooting to run that. 515 00:25:49,465 --> 00:25:52,125 And you know, the goal was to just, again, this is a, 516 00:25:52,195 --> 00:25:53,965 this is an asset in the community 517 00:25:54,105 --> 00:25:57,525 and we should be highlighting it as as much as possible. 518 00:25:58,285 --> 00:26:02,805 Certainly. Is it, it's it's part of the selling, you know, 519 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:05,965 sales pitch to start your business here or move here. 520 00:26:07,105 --> 00:26:11,285 So, you know, been a little frustrated trying to connect 521 00:26:11,285 --> 00:26:13,445 with people from the Millstone Trails Association 522 00:26:13,745 --> 00:26:15,885 to help with it. 523 00:26:16,345 --> 00:26:20,725 But I think, you know, we'll be able to do it without them 524 00:26:21,985 --> 00:26:24,885 and we'll, we'll, we'll guide everybody towards, you know, 525 00:26:24,945 --> 00:26:26,165 how to access the park 526 00:26:26,225 --> 00:26:27,725 and, you know, you need, you need a, 527 00:26:28,045 --> 00:26:29,405 a permit and all that kind of stuff. 528 00:26:29,425 --> 00:26:31,125 And so that'll be fine. 529 00:26:32,605 --> 00:26:34,445 Probably get some, some shots 530 00:26:34,445 --> 00:26:36,045 of the DISC golf course in there too. 531 00:26:36,405 --> 00:26:39,725 'cause that's another component of the Town Forest. 532 00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:42,285 Have you spoke with Guy Norwood? Our rec director? 533 00:26:42,565 --> 00:26:44,045 I haven't spoken with Guy. No. 534 00:26:44,675 --> 00:26:48,365 He's, he's one of the founders I believe 535 00:26:48,385 --> 00:26:49,965 of the Cory Disc golf course. 536 00:26:49,995 --> 00:26:53,205 Yeah. And he is also involved with mta. 537 00:26:53,395 --> 00:26:54,765 He's involved with pretty much everything, 538 00:26:54,765 --> 00:26:56,645 recreation in the town, the pickleball, everything. 539 00:26:56,825 --> 00:26:59,485 Yep. Okay. So He could be a resource for you. 540 00:26:59,635 --> 00:27:02,445 Okay. Yeah, thanks. I'll, I'll definitely reach out to him 541 00:27:02,585 --> 00:27:04,085 to help develop the native piece 542 00:27:07,085 --> 00:27:09,545 and yeah, so that, I think again, that's, 543 00:27:09,555 --> 00:27:12,265 we've not done anything with WCX before this. 544 00:27:12,315 --> 00:27:13,545 We're, we're gonna do something new, 545 00:27:13,545 --> 00:27:15,105 and this is sort of a collaboration 546 00:27:15,105 --> 00:27:17,745 with the Barry partnership where Tracy's focusing on some 547 00:27:17,745 --> 00:27:19,065 of the down downtown stuff, 548 00:27:19,065 --> 00:27:23,545 and I'm using my pieces to focus on Wilson Industrial Park, 549 00:27:23,685 --> 00:27:24,745 Wilson Trails. 550 00:27:24,985 --> 00:27:28,185 We're gonna collaborate on the fifth, on the fifth Pro, 551 00:27:28,645 --> 00:27:33,025 you know, ad And I think that's just gonna be a general sort 552 00:27:33,025 --> 00:27:36,345 of like quality of life aspect of Barry, you know, you know, 553 00:27:37,645 --> 00:27:41,545 trails downtown, you know, housing, stuff like that 554 00:27:42,595 --> 00:27:47,545 Opera house, you know, so that'll probably happen end 555 00:27:47,545 --> 00:27:49,065 of year, beginning of next year. 556 00:27:52,495 --> 00:27:53,945 Yeah. And, and I'm also 557 00:27:54,545 --> 00:27:56,425 working on a business recruitment guide. 558 00:27:57,035 --> 00:27:58,145 Again, that's not something 559 00:27:58,145 --> 00:28:00,425 that I don't think the a DC has ever done. 560 00:28:01,145 --> 00:28:05,505 And this goes into sort of in the same vein, 561 00:28:05,565 --> 00:28:06,865 we are redoing our website. 562 00:28:06,925 --> 00:28:09,785 It was very antiquated, wasn't, there wasn't a lot 563 00:28:09,785 --> 00:28:11,465 of content that was useful that I felt. 564 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,825 And so we've been working with a, a web design company. 565 00:28:15,855 --> 00:28:19,025 It's almost done. They're just putting the final touches on 566 00:28:19,145 --> 00:28:21,865 some of the last edits for our next review. 567 00:28:23,085 --> 00:28:24,625 But it'll, it'll mesh with the, 568 00:28:24,845 --> 00:28:27,665 the business recruitment guide, which is again, it's going 569 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:29,865 to sort of like highlight the community 570 00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:31,865 and you know, part of my job is 571 00:28:31,865 --> 00:28:33,105 to represent the city and the town. 572 00:28:33,205 --> 00:28:36,905 And so, you know, I've tried to, tried to blend them as 573 00:28:37,475 --> 00:28:39,665 where it makes sense and then separate them 574 00:28:39,915 --> 00:28:41,545 where it also makes sense, right? 575 00:28:42,185 --> 00:28:44,825 Because there's different assets in both communities. 576 00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:47,585 And so, you know, highlight one over here 577 00:28:47,585 --> 00:28:48,865 and highlight this one down there, 578 00:28:49,085 --> 00:28:51,265 but you know, it, it is still, you know, 579 00:28:52,145 --> 00:28:54,025 holistically it's one, one big community. 580 00:28:55,405 --> 00:28:58,585 And those should be, I'm, I'm hoping that the, 581 00:28:58,585 --> 00:29:00,345 the website definitely is, is late 582 00:29:02,415 --> 00:29:05,555 and it was supposed to launch in June, but get delayed 583 00:29:05,555 --> 00:29:08,995 because of personnel issues at, at that develop firm. 584 00:29:09,695 --> 00:29:13,755 But we're shooting for October for both 585 00:29:14,735 --> 00:29:17,035 the business recruitment guide and the website to be done. 586 00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:18,715 So when it, when it goes live, 587 00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:20,995 I'll definitely share it with all of 588 00:29:20,995 --> 00:29:21,995 You. 589 00:29:21,995 --> 00:29:22,515 Yes, please do. Yeah, 590 00:29:23,235 --> 00:29:25,915 I I do think that the website's gonna be helpful 591 00:29:25,915 --> 00:29:27,715 because, you know, one of the things that 592 00:29:28,365 --> 00:29:30,955 we've heard a lot about is, you know, commercial space 593 00:29:30,955 --> 00:29:32,715 and availability of commercial space 594 00:29:33,695 --> 00:29:36,475 and there have been like, you know, times over 595 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:39,715 previous years where, you know, I think we've tried to do 596 00:29:39,715 --> 00:29:43,045 that just with the, an Excel file 597 00:29:43,545 --> 00:29:45,805 and that just becomes on wieldy to manage 598 00:29:45,825 --> 00:29:48,565 and to keep updated on a weekly basis. 599 00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:53,005 So with this website, I can send somebody a link 600 00:29:53,005 --> 00:29:55,605 and it goes to a form property owner goes, it goes right 601 00:29:55,605 --> 00:29:59,045 to a form, they fill it out, populates in the back end 602 00:29:59,205 --> 00:30:01,085 of the website and then they send, you know, 603 00:30:01,195 --> 00:30:02,205 they can send a picture 604 00:30:02,305 --> 00:30:04,405 and it automatically ends up going on the website. 605 00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:09,085 So, so I think that'll be really helpful as long 606 00:30:09,085 --> 00:30:12,085 as I give property owners to, to fill out the form, which, 607 00:30:12,145 --> 00:30:16,675 you know, I think we can, you know, 608 00:30:18,225 --> 00:30:20,195 some of the next things, you know, we, 609 00:30:21,315 --> 00:30:25,155 I won't take too much thunder from a future agenda item, 610 00:30:25,175 --> 00:30:29,865 but tax stabilization policy drafted, 611 00:30:30,725 --> 00:30:33,625 you know, a, a revised tax stabilization policy and Chris 612 00:30:33,805 --> 00:30:35,745 and I and Kate have met to discuss it 613 00:30:35,745 --> 00:30:36,865 and I know that'll be at a, 614 00:30:37,485 --> 00:30:40,025 at a future select board meeting boom. 615 00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,345 Yeah. That, that fully get into. 616 00:30:43,285 --> 00:30:46,225 And then, you know, some of the other things are just trying 617 00:30:46,225 --> 00:30:49,385 to figure out what projects there might be in Berry Town 618 00:30:49,695 --> 00:30:53,385 that could be good projects to utilize 619 00:30:54,045 --> 00:30:55,505 CHIP'S new program in the states 620 00:30:58,045 --> 00:30:59,825 and learning about it. 621 00:31:00,565 --> 00:31:03,225 And, and if I find that there's a, a good project 622 00:31:03,295 --> 00:31:06,305 that could fit, then definitely would wanna bring that to, 623 00:31:06,325 --> 00:31:08,385 to Chris and have that conversation with you guys. 624 00:31:09,445 --> 00:31:11,625 Remind me of what CHIP is, that's the housing 625 00:31:12,775 --> 00:31:15,905 Community Housing infrastructure program. 626 00:31:16,405 --> 00:31:18,105 Yep. It's, it's, it's, it's, 627 00:31:18,105 --> 00:31:20,705 it's in essence it's project based tax, 628 00:31:21,005 --> 00:31:23,425 tax increment financing, project based tiff. 629 00:31:23,425 --> 00:31:26,705 That's what it's actually, we had, we had a meeting 630 00:31:26,705 --> 00:31:28,745 with VLCT today to discuss, 631 00:31:30,565 --> 00:31:32,305 and you know, there's, 632 00:31:32,625 --> 00:31:36,945 I was told like there's not one approved chip project yet. 633 00:31:37,285 --> 00:31:40,505 Really? Yep. It's still pretty new. Yeah. 634 00:31:41,765 --> 00:31:43,425 But, and, and I think that's gonna happen, 635 00:31:43,725 --> 00:31:45,345 but you know, they're, they're trying to figure it out, 636 00:31:45,405 --> 00:31:46,985 you know, but again, it's, 637 00:31:46,985 --> 00:31:50,025 it's another tool just like tax stabilization to help 638 00:31:51,185 --> 00:31:53,315 with development because we only 639 00:31:53,315 --> 00:31:54,435 have so many tools in this state. 640 00:31:54,615 --> 00:31:56,275 And so let's try to figure out a way to, 641 00:31:56,455 --> 00:31:58,315 to utilize 'em as best as possible. 642 00:32:00,365 --> 00:32:03,785 So I mean that's, that's a pretty good summary of, you know, 643 00:32:04,725 --> 00:32:07,305 things I've been working on and happy to take any questions. 644 00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:10,565 I do not have any questions. 645 00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:13,605 It sounds like you have been, been, I'm plenty busy, but 646 00:32:14,305 --> 00:32:16,005 Do you, when the w CX piece run, 647 00:32:16,005 --> 00:32:17,005 do you put those on your Facebook 648 00:32:17,005 --> 00:32:18,805 page so that we can go see them? Yeah. Okay. 649 00:32:19,225 --> 00:32:20,445 Yep. Absolutely. 650 00:32:20,445 --> 00:32:23,245 Yeah, and I'll, I'll email you, I can email everybody 651 00:32:24,035 --> 00:32:25,885 because they, what they usually do is they'll give it 652 00:32:25,885 --> 00:32:26,925 to me like in, it's just a YouTube 653 00:32:26,985 --> 00:32:30,645 and Yeah, when it comes out, when it go, when it goes live, 654 00:32:30,645 --> 00:32:33,245 I'll, I'll make sure you guys see it. Great, thank 655 00:32:33,245 --> 00:32:34,245 You. 656 00:32:34,245 --> 00:32:36,445 I missed the one, I missed the first one I remember it was, 657 00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:40,645 I think you may have mentioned that it was coming up 658 00:32:40,645 --> 00:32:41,925 or maybe Chris mentioned it to us, 659 00:32:42,665 --> 00:32:47,235 but I somehow stream my WCAX. 660 00:32:47,275 --> 00:32:50,155 I don't have cable, so I I don't get local ads. Yep. 661 00:32:50,395 --> 00:32:52,555 I get he get ads for apps 662 00:32:52,655 --> 00:32:54,995 and Snoopy sleeping on his dog house and stuff like that. 663 00:32:55,415 --> 00:32:57,795 That's, yeah, that's what I, I I've learned a lot, a lot 664 00:32:57,795 --> 00:33:00,835 of people stream WCEX actually watch 665 00:33:02,085 --> 00:33:03,155 cable news anymore. 666 00:33:06,305 --> 00:33:10,035 Anything you're lacking or anything, any 667 00:33:11,385 --> 00:33:14,475 headwinds you're running into currently 668 00:33:14,535 --> 00:33:16,875 or the rest of, I guess I'm, I'm curious what your, 669 00:33:17,015 --> 00:33:18,915 you're taking the temperature is, right? 670 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:21,595 You know, it is like you're just broad based. Yeah, 671 00:33:21,595 --> 00:33:22,595 Yeah. 672 00:33:22,595 --> 00:33:26,315 I mean I think, well this, it's not really related 673 00:33:26,315 --> 00:33:28,355 to Beartown, but I mean, I think, you know, 674 00:33:28,415 --> 00:33:32,355 the city manager in Bear City leaving sort of left a void, 675 00:33:33,335 --> 00:33:36,635 you know, with some of the projects that are, are ongoing 676 00:33:36,895 --> 00:33:38,755 and, and somebody had to step in 677 00:33:39,735 --> 00:33:41,875 and so, so that's taken up more 678 00:33:41,875 --> 00:33:43,515 of my time than I anticipated. 679 00:33:44,815 --> 00:33:47,595 But you know, I think there's a interim solution now and, 680 00:33:47,775 --> 00:33:51,195 and hopefully, you know, that my time can can be, you know, 681 00:33:51,435 --> 00:33:55,235 recaptured to focus on other things. I'm 682 00:33:55,355 --> 00:33:56,395 Sure they appreciate you stepping 683 00:33:56,395 --> 00:33:57,515 up and filling that void though. 684 00:33:57,515 --> 00:33:59,395 Yeah, I mean whatever, whatever's needed, right? 685 00:33:59,475 --> 00:34:01,835 I mean, critical projects, right? 686 00:34:01,935 --> 00:34:03,115 So I wanna move 'em forward, 687 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:08,235 but, you know, my board meetings, you know, I, I give 688 00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:12,395 and my board packet, you know, economic data every month 689 00:34:13,075 --> 00:34:16,635 I look at retail tax receipts, you know, gross receipts, 690 00:34:16,665 --> 00:34:19,235 mill room, alcohol receipts, you know, just 691 00:34:19,235 --> 00:34:21,315 to figure out like what's going on out there. 692 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:24,515 And it's kind, it's, it's, 693 00:34:24,515 --> 00:34:27,475 it's a really weird market right now where, you know, 694 00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:29,355 some businesses are doing fine, right? 695 00:34:29,495 --> 00:34:32,115 You know, some businesses are not doing fine 696 00:34:34,015 --> 00:34:35,075 and, and they're not. 697 00:34:35,295 --> 00:34:39,755 And and they're, it's really hard for some different sectors 698 00:34:41,415 --> 00:34:43,875 and I just don't know, I don't know how to make out of it, 699 00:34:44,095 --> 00:34:47,595 you know, because it's just seems kind of crazy 700 00:34:47,615 --> 00:34:49,515 and chaotic most of the time, 701 00:34:51,095 --> 00:34:53,715 but yet, you know, people still go to the store 702 00:34:53,735 --> 00:34:55,875 and buy stuff, you know, every single day. 703 00:34:56,175 --> 00:34:58,635 So some business are doing completely fine. 704 00:35:01,545 --> 00:35:03,275 Yeah, it's, it's hard to get a good read 705 00:35:06,055 --> 00:35:07,425 through all the different facets 706 00:35:07,425 --> 00:35:09,065 because, you know, you've got the manufacturing side 707 00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:10,305 and then you've got the retail side 708 00:35:10,305 --> 00:35:12,345 and you've got the service side and Yeah. 709 00:35:14,165 --> 00:35:16,785 And the, the data's not, while it's there, 710 00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:19,065 it's not always transparent either. It's not like you can, 711 00:35:19,335 --> 00:35:21,785 Yeah, nothing's conclusive, you know, I thought, you know, 712 00:35:22,485 --> 00:35:24,305 the old air thing, you know, 713 00:35:24,365 --> 00:35:27,785 and trying to get manufacturing back, you know, onshore 714 00:35:27,785 --> 00:35:29,505 that just really isn't materialized. 715 00:35:30,525 --> 00:35:33,105 And again, you know, when we're heavily taxed state, 716 00:35:33,105 --> 00:35:34,865 so it's really hard, you know, some 717 00:35:34,865 --> 00:35:37,485 of the Facebook ads I was pushing out there was, you know, 718 00:35:37,505 --> 00:35:39,765 out of the region trying to try to try 719 00:35:39,765 --> 00:35:44,005 to identify like communities there, Quebec, you know, 720 00:35:44,425 --> 00:35:48,645 Jersey, New York and this really hasn't worked 721 00:35:48,715 --> 00:35:51,325 because nothing's moving because of the tariffs. 722 00:35:52,605 --> 00:35:55,435 Right. It's all that. 723 00:35:58,645 --> 00:35:59,815 I'll have to look his number up. 724 00:36:01,555 --> 00:36:04,345 Thank you Josh. I, that was, that was good. Thank you. 725 00:36:05,105 --> 00:36:07,145 I could just add too, since Josh has been on, 726 00:36:07,175 --> 00:36:08,305 it's been been great. 727 00:36:08,325 --> 00:36:09,825 He is very good to work with 728 00:36:09,925 --> 00:36:14,825 and I think he understands that balance of Berry City, 729 00:36:14,985 --> 00:36:16,265 Berry town pretty well and, 730 00:36:16,365 --> 00:36:18,865 and is certainly working hard for both communities, 731 00:36:18,865 --> 00:36:20,345 which benefits both communities. 732 00:36:20,365 --> 00:36:23,145 Yes. So I appreciate his efforts. 733 00:36:23,705 --> 00:36:26,385 I do have one thing briefly, and I'm not an expert 734 00:36:26,445 --> 00:36:27,705 and I'm not trying to be 735 00:36:27,705 --> 00:36:30,385 or whatnot, does the state give any consideration 736 00:36:30,385 --> 00:36:33,025 to the fact that the hood plant is currently shuttered, 737 00:36:33,215 --> 00:36:34,425 essentially shuttered 738 00:36:36,085 --> 00:36:39,925 and they have their own pretreatment requirements, 739 00:36:39,925 --> 00:36:42,205 which was the straw that broke the camel's back, 740 00:36:43,185 --> 00:36:46,485 as we all know, in order for that facility 741 00:36:46,505 --> 00:36:48,085 to come back online, I am sure 742 00:36:48,085 --> 00:36:49,285 they would have to do the same thing. 743 00:36:49,285 --> 00:36:50,325 Is there any, is there any, 744 00:36:50,385 --> 00:36:52,685 is the state giving you any thought to the fact that 745 00:36:55,265 --> 00:36:56,685 the loading won't be 746 00:36:56,755 --> 00:36:59,845 what it currently is once both of these are online? 747 00:36:59,875 --> 00:37:01,765 With regards to Berry City's capacity? 748 00:37:02,085 --> 00:37:03,285 I mean, I, I, 749 00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:07,845 I think this next legislative session we might see some 750 00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:11,245 conversation because of all of the closures 751 00:37:11,515 --> 00:37:14,325 that have happened that the state might have 752 00:37:14,325 --> 00:37:16,085 to appropriate some resources 753 00:37:16,085 --> 00:37:18,885 to help mitigate these, these situations. 754 00:37:18,885 --> 00:37:22,725 Right? Because if they don't do something, you know, 755 00:37:22,755 --> 00:37:23,805 it's just gonna continue, 756 00:37:24,315 --> 00:37:25,965 It'd be pretty sad to be a dairy state 757 00:37:26,025 --> 00:37:28,245 and have to import all of our milk and cheese. Yeah. 758 00:37:28,395 --> 00:37:29,445 It's not just the treatment 759 00:37:29,445 --> 00:37:31,605 or the pretreatment, it's the three acre's, the three 760 00:37:31,715 --> 00:37:34,085 Acre, it's all, it's, it's, it's like I said earlier, 761 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,085 death by a thousand guys. 762 00:37:35,085 --> 00:37:36,165 Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. 763 00:37:37,465 --> 00:37:39,245 So I'm, you know, again, in, 764 00:37:40,105 --> 00:37:42,085 you never know what's gonna happen in, in every session 765 00:37:43,745 --> 00:37:45,245 and hopefully they can appropriate 766 00:37:45,565 --> 00:37:46,805 resources to help mitigate this. 767 00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:50,795 I would agree. Thank you. Thanks 768 00:37:52,225 --> 00:37:53,225 Josh. 769 00:37:53,225 --> 00:37:53,775 Yep. 770 00:37:57,085 --> 00:38:01,395 Hey, next item is a 771 00:38:02,485 --> 00:38:03,955 occasional report from 772 00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:07,295 Your Martin. No, that's, 773 00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:09,175 Josh is allowed today. 774 00:38:14,005 --> 00:38:16,785 You've been up to You a clue. 775 00:38:17,585 --> 00:38:19,825 Absolutely nothing. It's 776 00:38:20,025 --> 00:38:21,025 That easy. 777 00:38:22,325 --> 00:38:24,185 So hopefully you got my report 778 00:38:24,185 --> 00:38:28,165 that I gave Chris going there. 779 00:38:29,195 --> 00:38:31,605 I'll just kind of highlight some of that. 780 00:38:35,785 --> 00:38:37,245 So it's been pretty productive this summer. 781 00:38:37,255 --> 00:38:38,845 We've got lots of stuff done. 782 00:38:38,845 --> 00:38:39,845 We finished hold road, 783 00:38:41,705 --> 00:38:44,485 we did some storm water projects paving. 784 00:38:44,705 --> 00:38:47,365 So we did eight miles 785 00:38:47,465 --> 00:38:49,845 of paving this year just over that. 786 00:38:50,735 --> 00:38:54,795 And with that we came in our budget amount 787 00:38:54,895 --> 00:38:56,035 by $20,000 788 00:38:57,305 --> 00:39:00,965 and we also got a grant for 180,000. 789 00:39:02,015 --> 00:39:05,715 So we saved $200,000 790 00:39:05,815 --> 00:39:07,035 in our ping budget. 791 00:39:07,415 --> 00:39:08,955 So it was a good year. 792 00:39:09,095 --> 00:39:13,285 It worked out good because of the whole 793 00:39:15,145 --> 00:39:17,375 escalating of gas prices and up being, 794 00:39:17,585 --> 00:39:19,815 Which is shocking with what Diesel fuel has done. And 795 00:39:20,165 --> 00:39:22,135 Yeah, I'm glad we're not paving now. 796 00:39:22,275 --> 00:39:24,295 We paved in July 'cause it's gotten worse. 797 00:39:24,395 --> 00:39:26,895 But you were able to, to 798 00:39:27,515 --> 00:39:29,055 do everything we did and come on your budget. 799 00:39:29,355 --> 00:39:30,375 So that was really good. 800 00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:35,735 Boulder Road, like I said, that was reopened in early July. 801 00:39:36,435 --> 00:39:40,695 The construction bid was for 622,000 and change. 802 00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,175 And we actually came in below that 803 00:39:45,075 --> 00:39:46,775 by like a thousand dollars even 804 00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:48,135 with the change order that we all approved. 805 00:39:48,435 --> 00:39:50,895 So that was good as well. 806 00:39:52,725 --> 00:39:57,325 Stay underneath and then that's, 807 00:39:57,635 --> 00:40:01,045 everybody knows that's covered by FEMA and state funding. 808 00:40:01,705 --> 00:40:05,905 Our share for that is roughly 2.2%. 809 00:40:07,815 --> 00:40:12,365 So it was over, it was over 810 00:40:12,555 --> 00:40:16,525 what we were obligated for that project. 811 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,285 However, we were under 812 00:40:18,355 --> 00:40:19,885 what was obligated for another project. 813 00:40:20,025 --> 00:40:21,205 So that made up the difference. 814 00:40:21,205 --> 00:40:25,695 And we ended up being about $30,000 over our 815 00:40:25,695 --> 00:40:26,735 overall obligated. 816 00:40:27,475 --> 00:40:30,475 So terrible. It was a huge hit. Plus 817 00:40:32,055 --> 00:40:33,785 When we first started having the compensation, 818 00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:36,345 I think we had $500,000 that we had set aside 819 00:40:36,345 --> 00:40:38,935 for all these projects for our, for our match. 820 00:40:39,235 --> 00:40:41,905 Yep, that's what I was gonna point out. 821 00:40:42,005 --> 00:40:43,825 You know, we, we end up with 30,000. 822 00:40:43,825 --> 00:40:45,265 That's, that's very good. 823 00:40:45,495 --> 00:40:47,145 I've thought of 23 blood 824 00:40:47,685 --> 00:40:51,145 so far. So 825 00:40:51,145 --> 00:40:52,145 I Camp Street to go. 826 00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:55,365 Yep. So Camp Street 827 00:40:56,565 --> 00:40:59,245 VHP is still working on final plans to 828 00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:02,395 do the bid documents. 829 00:41:02,935 --> 00:41:05,635 So at this point in the game, we can't expect 830 00:41:05,815 --> 00:41:08,795 to have them turn it over and bid and start construction 831 00:41:08,855 --> 00:41:10,075 and be done this fall. 832 00:41:10,695 --> 00:41:12,995 So it will be a spring construction season. 833 00:41:14,375 --> 00:41:17,195 So we'll, we'll should see bids this winter 834 00:41:17,535 --> 00:41:21,925 and start first thing first, first thing, 835 00:41:22,055 --> 00:41:23,725 first thing as soon as possible. 836 00:41:24,875 --> 00:41:26,145 There was the snowbanks here gone. 837 00:41:26,485 --> 00:41:31,095 Yep. So at 838 00:41:31,095 --> 00:41:34,365 Wilders burg, the, there was three chambers I could put in. 839 00:41:34,385 --> 00:41:36,965 As we all know, outta the seven 840 00:41:42,685 --> 00:41:47,505 sew and water basically that's been working as normal. 841 00:41:48,415 --> 00:41:50,665 Unfortunately our operator's 842 00:41:50,665 --> 00:41:51,705 leaving us at the end of this week. 843 00:41:51,705 --> 00:41:53,105 So we're down a person, 844 00:41:54,645 --> 00:41:58,485 but we've got resumes back 845 00:41:58,505 --> 00:42:00,685 and hopefully we'll have someone picked out here soon. 846 00:42:03,595 --> 00:42:05,615 The pump over on Orchard Terrace, 847 00:42:06,595 --> 00:42:07,975 the rails were done the other day 848 00:42:08,595 --> 00:42:10,375 and they just need to put the new pump in. 849 00:42:10,375 --> 00:42:11,375 So that'll be done soon. 850 00:42:16,445 --> 00:42:18,325 H and C outside, we had our new loader 851 00:42:18,755 --> 00:42:19,925 that came in last week. 852 00:42:24,215 --> 00:42:28,895 I was, I attended the Public works expo out in Houston, 853 00:42:29,105 --> 00:42:33,135 Texas back in the beginning of, I guess, I guess it was, 854 00:42:33,805 --> 00:42:36,455 yeah, August or end of August. 855 00:42:36,715 --> 00:42:41,575 End of September. So I went out there for four or five days 856 00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,415 and I was able to do that 857 00:42:44,445 --> 00:42:48,855 because of this George Cromwell emerging leader scholarship. 858 00:42:49,195 --> 00:42:50,535 So they basically paid for everything 859 00:42:50,635 --> 00:42:53,895 but $150, which found paid. 860 00:42:55,155 --> 00:42:57,015 So that was good. I got to meet a lot of people. 861 00:42:57,705 --> 00:43:01,255 There was, it was the biggest conference I've ever had in we 862 00:43:01,255 --> 00:43:02,615 call PWX history. 863 00:43:04,395 --> 00:43:09,335 So there was, there was 18 118,000 square feet 864 00:43:09,335 --> 00:43:13,215 of vendor space that included equipment. 865 00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:17,335 Like what's outside to programs, 866 00:43:17,545 --> 00:43:20,535 asset management software to manholes 867 00:43:20,595 --> 00:43:22,055 to everything you can think of. 868 00:43:22,155 --> 00:43:25,735 It was anything public works related, emergency management, 869 00:43:27,145 --> 00:43:29,815 fleet, all sorts of stuff. 870 00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:33,255 And they had classes every day 871 00:43:33,715 --> 00:43:35,255 in multiple classes. 872 00:43:36,395 --> 00:43:40,295 It was like being back in college in the, the where it was, 873 00:43:40,355 --> 00:43:42,295 it was two big long hallways 874 00:43:42,835 --> 00:43:45,335 and you took me 20 minutes to walk from one end to the other 875 00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:48,365 and classrooms on either side and multiples. 876 00:43:49,105 --> 00:43:51,165 It was huge. Just huge. 877 00:43:52,625 --> 00:43:56,975 But it was really, it was really good. A lot of fun. So 878 00:43:57,075 --> 00:44:00,295 Did you get the secret recipe to the salt crisis? 879 00:44:02,215 --> 00:44:05,355 No, that wasn't, it wasn't a class. I laughed. 880 00:44:05,475 --> 00:44:06,835 I get through winter without salt. Yeah, 881 00:44:06,835 --> 00:44:09,955 I laughed when he mentioned somewhere in here said he 882 00:44:10,035 --> 00:44:12,245 talked about winter, 883 00:44:12,785 --> 00:44:15,565 winter operations and you're in Texas. 884 00:44:16,335 --> 00:44:17,685 There was some, not a lot. 885 00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:20,165 It was mo there's an a separate one they 886 00:44:20,165 --> 00:44:21,245 do just for winter stuff. 887 00:44:21,265 --> 00:44:23,525 But there was some, there was some plows, but not a lot. 888 00:44:23,925 --> 00:44:26,845 I did talk to Arine making person down there. 889 00:44:29,655 --> 00:44:31,365 There was, there was a lot of stuff. 890 00:44:31,465 --> 00:44:34,605 It, it is just, it's hard to, I was talking 891 00:44:34,605 --> 00:44:35,885 to den about it today. 892 00:44:35,925 --> 00:44:37,285 I was like, you just, it's hard to 893 00:44:38,295 --> 00:44:39,525 think about all the things 894 00:44:39,995 --> 00:44:41,645 that was going on while you were there. 895 00:44:41,645 --> 00:44:43,405 Like I had an app, literally an app 896 00:44:43,425 --> 00:44:45,205 to pick out like which ones I wanna go to. 897 00:44:45,225 --> 00:44:46,765 And like it would send me reminders and, 898 00:44:47,985 --> 00:44:49,485 and you'd go through and like, okay, 899 00:44:49,485 --> 00:44:50,685 it'd sign up for like three of 'em. 900 00:44:50,685 --> 00:44:51,925 Okay, which one do I really wanna go to? 901 00:44:52,425 --> 00:44:54,045 And then, you know, it's just 902 00:44:55,125 --> 00:44:57,305 so much is going on it, it was really good. 903 00:44:57,505 --> 00:45:01,935 I, you know, Being a part of the New England chapter 904 00:45:02,355 --> 00:45:04,815 for a PWA here, you know a lot 905 00:45:04,815 --> 00:45:06,215 of us from New England went there 906 00:45:06,475 --> 00:45:09,375 and so I got to know like the parties are here in New 907 00:45:09,375 --> 00:45:12,935 England even better so we can bounce ideas off. 908 00:45:13,015 --> 00:45:16,265 I met the, the public works director from Hawaii 909 00:45:16,485 --> 00:45:21,345 and you know, the one from Des Moines, 910 00:45:21,345 --> 00:45:23,865 Iowa and you know, so there's a lot of contacts 911 00:45:23,865 --> 00:45:28,655 that I've made and you know, bounce ideas off of it was, 912 00:45:28,675 --> 00:45:30,415 it was really good to see that no matter what size 913 00:45:30,415 --> 00:45:33,175 or town was or city is, you all have the same problems. 914 00:45:33,175 --> 00:45:34,175 It's just a different skate. 915 00:45:39,045 --> 00:45:41,205 I remember what I said in my notes a couple weeks ago 916 00:45:42,365 --> 00:45:45,135 when I let you know that he had a successful trip. 917 00:45:45,585 --> 00:45:49,095 Right. Prob that he'd love to tell you 918 00:45:49,235 --> 00:45:50,815 and if not, you'll probably 919 00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:52,055 see something in a budget request. 920 00:45:54,595 --> 00:45:56,815 We did budget for it for this year, but then I was 921 00:45:56,815 --> 00:45:58,895 Also, oh I didn't mean that We 922 00:45:58,895 --> 00:46:00,495 weren't talking about the expo. Oh 923 00:46:00,745 --> 00:46:02,415 Maybe the next item things you see. 924 00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:03,775 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Things you 925 00:46:04,445 --> 00:46:09,295 Back with and Definitely a lot of good ideas, lot 926 00:46:09,295 --> 00:46:10,895 of things that, you know, other parts 927 00:46:10,895 --> 00:46:14,055 of the country are doing that you know are applicable here. 928 00:46:14,235 --> 00:46:16,655 But we just, we don't see those things here 929 00:46:16,675 --> 00:46:18,015 so we don't ever think about 'em. 930 00:46:20,275 --> 00:46:21,375 But it was, it was really good. 931 00:46:26,795 --> 00:46:31,405 What else? So you 932 00:46:31,405 --> 00:46:33,085 mentioned a couple times here 933 00:46:34,515 --> 00:46:36,365 reviewing asset management systems 934 00:46:36,515 --> 00:46:37,805 that could combine work orders, 935 00:46:38,005 --> 00:46:39,565 GIS information infrastructure, 936 00:46:39,835 --> 00:46:41,405 condition maintenance history. 937 00:46:42,665 --> 00:46:46,125 And one of 'em goes on to mention AI 938 00:46:47,735 --> 00:46:48,985 digital work orders. 939 00:46:49,255 --> 00:46:51,145 What is that one piece of software 940 00:46:51,165 --> 00:46:53,225 or is that a piece of software 941 00:46:53,225 --> 00:46:55,145 that just integrates other pieces of software? 942 00:46:55,775 --> 00:46:58,225 Yeah, so we've actually been, since I've gotten back 943 00:46:58,335 --> 00:47:01,025 that was like right now how we do a work order 944 00:47:01,205 --> 00:47:02,305 or keep track of all this stuff 945 00:47:02,305 --> 00:47:03,385 is in basically in the spreadsheet. 946 00:47:04,005 --> 00:47:06,505 And that's how we keep track of our time for everything. 947 00:47:07,165 --> 00:47:10,385 And it's to go through for fema, 948 00:47:10,445 --> 00:47:12,145 for grants, for all this stuff. 949 00:47:12,815 --> 00:47:14,985 It's cumbersome to go through 950 00:47:15,225 --> 00:47:16,505 'cause it's not necessarily labeled right? 951 00:47:16,505 --> 00:47:18,905 Someone typed it in, misspelled something 952 00:47:18,925 --> 00:47:21,585 so then it doesn't pop up or it's entered in. 953 00:47:21,725 --> 00:47:24,505 You know, one of the things that came up this winter was, 954 00:47:24,645 --> 00:47:27,025 you know, where I was trying to give you guys all assault 955 00:47:27,165 --> 00:47:30,965 and plowing update, well it was plowing and, 956 00:47:31,625 --> 00:47:33,405 and brush cutting or plowing 957 00:47:33,405 --> 00:47:37,265 and this, so it, it wasn't capturing everything 958 00:47:37,265 --> 00:47:39,745 and I had to go through piece by piece and, 959 00:47:39,805 --> 00:47:41,145 and look all this stuff up. 960 00:47:41,995 --> 00:47:44,815 So what that asset management software does is 961 00:47:46,365 --> 00:47:48,295 basically keeps track of all that stuff. 962 00:47:48,605 --> 00:47:51,735 It's kind of like a, a more robust 963 00:47:51,905 --> 00:47:53,415 fleet software type thing. 964 00:47:54,355 --> 00:47:56,455 You create a work order, the guys 965 00:47:58,155 --> 00:47:59,975 put in whatever materials they use, the time, 966 00:47:59,975 --> 00:48:01,175 their equipment, all that stuff. 967 00:48:01,175 --> 00:48:04,575 Keeps track of it. And then it also can link it to an asset. 968 00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:07,895 So a road or a sign or a sewer manhole 969 00:48:07,915 --> 00:48:09,855 or whatever it may be for an NASA building 970 00:48:11,525 --> 00:48:12,665 and ties all to that. 971 00:48:12,805 --> 00:48:14,745 So we have a history, we have a cost 972 00:48:15,165 --> 00:48:19,585 and then you know, all that where it is, you know, 973 00:48:19,745 --> 00:48:21,585 GIS and everything and it keeps track 974 00:48:21,585 --> 00:48:22,705 of it all so much better. 975 00:48:23,165 --> 00:48:26,425 And then it, you know, for the future it's, 976 00:48:26,675 --> 00:48:27,745 it'll make it much easier. 977 00:48:28,085 --> 00:48:29,225 The next person that comes in 978 00:48:29,225 --> 00:48:31,385 after me isn't gonna be looking through a bunch 979 00:48:31,385 --> 00:48:34,185 of handwritten records and be like, what went on? 980 00:48:34,255 --> 00:48:37,185 They can pull it up one click, it's right there in front 981 00:48:37,185 --> 00:48:39,265 of 'em, everything that was going on. 982 00:48:40,225 --> 00:48:44,005 Or if I need to, they, it does reports, it does 983 00:48:45,275 --> 00:48:46,685 capital planning. 984 00:48:47,795 --> 00:48:49,805 Like you can do your capital planning for you. 985 00:48:50,105 --> 00:48:52,845 So you can put in like these buildings, the facilities, 986 00:48:52,865 --> 00:48:54,205 the big one is the facilities. 987 00:48:54,385 --> 00:48:56,205 We have this thousand page document 988 00:48:56,745 --> 00:49:00,485 and we need to create a facility plan while this can help 989 00:49:00,485 --> 00:49:02,045 us and it's data driven. 990 00:49:02,115 --> 00:49:06,165 It's not us like, okay well we think this is gonna be done. 991 00:49:06,225 --> 00:49:10,345 You know, we put a mission rating on everything 992 00:49:10,845 --> 00:49:12,665 and life cycle on it 993 00:49:13,005 --> 00:49:15,975 and works it out. 994 00:49:15,975 --> 00:49:18,855 Okay, it's this much cost now it can take into account it's 995 00:49:18,855 --> 00:49:21,935 gonna cost this much five years and work it all out for you. 996 00:49:23,085 --> 00:49:25,175 When all said and done, you can say in this storm cost 997 00:49:25,175 --> 00:49:26,975 us x Yep. To the penny. 998 00:49:27,435 --> 00:49:29,935 Yep. Yep. I mean it's as good as you put it in. 999 00:49:29,935 --> 00:49:31,215 But that's, that's the plan. 1000 00:49:32,205 --> 00:49:34,775 This is something that you're looking into now? Yes. 1001 00:49:35,175 --> 00:49:36,215 I assume the next budget cycle 1002 00:49:37,085 --> 00:49:40,435 Maybe or sooner Told 1003 00:49:40,595 --> 00:49:42,755 you. Okay. 1004 00:49:43,655 --> 00:49:44,875 It was something that I was 1005 00:49:45,055 --> 00:49:48,935 Is this a, is this a AccuFund 1006 00:49:49,765 --> 00:49:52,175 size piece of software or is this 1007 00:49:53,485 --> 00:49:54,485 It can be. 1008 00:49:54,645 --> 00:49:56,265 So it depends on which one you wanna go with. 1009 00:49:56,885 --> 00:49:59,825 You know, there's, there's, I mean that was my goal was 1010 00:49:59,825 --> 00:50:01,905 to go down and look for this kind of software 1011 00:50:01,905 --> 00:50:03,025 and what was out there because I, 1012 00:50:03,265 --> 00:50:04,345 I didn't even know what was out there. 1013 00:50:06,165 --> 00:50:08,865 And when I went to Texas, that was what I was looking for 1014 00:50:09,205 --> 00:50:11,705 and I, there's probably 30 different ones down there 1015 00:50:12,535 --> 00:50:14,515 and I've kind of narrowed it down to the three four 1016 00:50:15,015 --> 00:50:16,435 and we're kind of looking at those now, 1017 00:50:17,335 --> 00:50:19,235 figure out which one works for us. 1018 00:50:19,475 --> 00:50:21,115 'cause they all have their little niche on 1019 00:50:21,675 --> 00:50:23,635 a different section of stuff. 1020 00:50:25,965 --> 00:50:28,635 You know, there's one program that can do your permitting, 1021 00:50:28,655 --> 00:50:33,195 it can do your, it can do your invoicing, it can, you know, 1022 00:50:33,195 --> 00:50:37,435 your utility invoicing, it can do your, your 1023 00:50:38,025 --> 00:50:39,475 payroll, it can do all the, 1024 00:50:39,535 --> 00:50:42,835 it can do literally all those things in one program 1025 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:47,715 and asset management and budgeting and whatever else. 1026 00:50:48,455 --> 00:50:52,035 So it's like a gigantic AccuFund. 1027 00:50:52,225 --> 00:50:54,475 Then there's ones that just focus on, you know, 1028 00:50:54,475 --> 00:50:55,715 just water and sewer. 1029 00:50:56,495 --> 00:50:57,495 So, 1030 00:50:58,095 --> 00:51:01,525 So we do pay a a lot of money and, 1031 00:51:01,945 --> 00:51:06,715 and monthly maintenance costs, subscription costs, 1032 00:51:06,995 --> 00:51:08,315 whatever the proper term is for that, 1033 00:51:08,335 --> 00:51:10,955 for all the different softwares that the town uses between 1034 00:51:11,615 --> 00:51:15,735 police and the clerk and the EMS and finance 1035 00:51:16,075 --> 00:51:17,695 and all those different departments. 1036 00:51:18,465 --> 00:51:21,525 We wanna just be careful not to create overlap. Definitely. 1037 00:51:21,545 --> 00:51:23,925 Unless the overlap makes sense. 1038 00:51:24,545 --> 00:51:27,245 If there's pieces of AccuFund that this could do 1039 00:51:27,245 --> 00:51:30,525 that AccuFund still hasn't gotten resolved or Brisbane 1040 00:51:30,525 --> 00:51:32,445 or whoever, whomever it is yet 1041 00:51:33,905 --> 00:51:36,165 or whatnot, that may be worth, but I'll leave that. 1042 00:51:36,225 --> 00:51:39,125 That's the manager's that's under his purview, 1043 00:51:39,125 --> 00:51:40,805 so I'm gonna leave that entirely up to him. Yeah, 1044 00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:43,325 A lot of these things are also modular, so, 1045 00:51:43,865 --> 00:51:45,605 but you can do just the asset management 1046 00:51:45,605 --> 00:51:47,925 and then say you want to later you can add on, 1047 00:51:50,565 --> 00:51:51,565 On all or nothing. 1048 00:51:51,565 --> 00:51:52,435 Right. 1049 00:51:53,825 --> 00:51:55,445 And I don't, I don't, I wouldn't take your thunder 1050 00:51:56,025 --> 00:51:57,555 because I know you're evaluating it, 1051 00:51:57,555 --> 00:52:02,455 but evaluated that's trying. 1052 00:52:02,805 --> 00:52:06,015 Well just because you know, I mean everything looks great. 1053 00:52:06,045 --> 00:52:08,095 It's all shiny and it's good, all this stuff, but it's good. 1054 00:52:08,095 --> 00:52:10,255 You know, you already hit on that garbage and garbage out 1055 00:52:10,715 --> 00:52:13,015 and what is the real world day-to-day usage 1056 00:52:13,395 --> 00:52:16,685 and you know, when it's, everything's set up perfectly, 1057 00:52:16,685 --> 00:52:19,365 it looks great, but people are gonna go in there 1058 00:52:19,365 --> 00:52:22,125 and, you know, mess stuff up and not put it in the right way 1059 00:52:22,185 --> 00:52:25,325 or not do this and just look, keeping an eye to 1060 00:52:25,325 --> 00:52:26,325 that user side of life 1061 00:52:26,325 --> 00:52:29,405 and the day-to-day operational side as well 1062 00:52:29,405 --> 00:52:31,085 as getting accurate information. 1063 00:52:32,115 --> 00:52:34,045 I've played with a few of these systems over the years 1064 00:52:34,105 --> 00:52:36,485 and it's, you know, there's a, none of 'em are perfect, 1065 00:52:36,785 --> 00:52:38,805 you know, you know, you get, you think you're gonna do it 1066 00:52:38,805 --> 00:52:41,885 and then you're like, oh no. So 1067 00:52:42,235 --> 00:52:44,925 Yeah, I've already Take your time. I guess reached 1068 00:52:44,945 --> 00:52:48,205 Out to some people about different ones that are using it, 1069 00:52:48,315 --> 00:52:49,525 what they like, what they don't like. 1070 00:52:51,125 --> 00:52:52,125 Yeah, it's, it's, 1071 00:52:53,435 --> 00:52:55,215 We know that the way we track our buildings 1072 00:52:55,275 --> 00:52:59,715 and the way that we, it's very inefficient 1073 00:52:59,775 --> 00:53:02,955 and antiquated and we know that the way that that DPW has 1074 00:53:02,955 --> 00:53:04,835 to track all the fleet maintenance stuff 1075 00:53:04,835 --> 00:53:08,235 and all was, is cumbersome. 1076 00:53:09,245 --> 00:53:11,065 So if we could make improvements in a couple 1077 00:53:11,065 --> 00:53:12,825 of those categories, I would be all for it. 1078 00:53:13,155 --> 00:53:14,825 Especially if it 'cause we all 1079 00:53:15,535 --> 00:53:19,475 because know, you know best 'cause you live it, 1080 00:53:20,055 --> 00:53:22,435 but that we are not overstaffed. 1081 00:53:22,435 --> 00:53:23,595 We don't have people sitting around 1082 00:53:23,595 --> 00:53:24,675 looking for something to do. 1083 00:53:24,915 --> 00:53:25,915 Correct. 1084 00:53:27,715 --> 00:53:29,675 I have to say our fleet has gotten much better 1085 00:53:30,095 --> 00:53:33,955 and since we switched over to the cloud-based system, that 1086 00:53:33,955 --> 00:53:35,315 that system is much better. 1087 00:53:35,365 --> 00:53:37,395 We're using about, before it was cloud-based, 1088 00:53:37,395 --> 00:53:39,835 we're using about $10 of the $8,000 program. 1089 00:53:40,855 --> 00:53:42,995 Now we're using $8,000 of 1090 00:53:43,795 --> 00:53:44,795 Very good. 1091 00:53:50,575 --> 00:53:53,505 Yeah, that's all I have. 1092 00:53:54,755 --> 00:53:56,245 Well I was disappointed. 1093 00:53:57,365 --> 00:53:59,185 I'm sure after this airs on Friday, 1094 00:54:00,885 --> 00:54:03,745 likely we will all be getting phone calls about Camp Street, 1095 00:54:03,885 --> 00:54:05,845 but we're doing our best. 1096 00:54:06,065 --> 00:54:07,325 That's all we can do. Yeah. 1097 00:54:07,385 --> 00:54:10,485 It it's unfortunately it's part of the process. 1098 00:54:11,075 --> 00:54:14,005 Yeah, we were, I mean we were optimistic that was gonna be 1099 00:54:16,565 --> 00:54:19,295 this this year we knew we were cutting it close, 1100 00:54:19,595 --> 00:54:21,735 but it's just at this point it's not gonna happen. 1101 00:54:21,915 --> 00:54:24,095 As, as we said, we were cautiously optimistic. 1102 00:54:24,765 --> 00:54:28,015 Yeah. We're up against the 30 day mandatory bid period. 1103 00:54:28,065 --> 00:54:29,735 Right. State. 1104 00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:32,615 No, I get it. We're Already end of September 1105 00:54:32,795 --> 00:54:34,855 and we don't have bid docks yet. 1106 00:54:36,535 --> 00:54:37,875 So close. You know, it's just gonna, 1107 00:54:38,215 --> 00:54:40,515 not gonna, unfortunately 1108 00:54:40,855 --> 00:54:42,675 No, they still, the second week in November to close, 1109 00:54:42,675 --> 00:54:44,435 they still revolve around deer season 1110 00:54:44,495 --> 00:54:45,675 or is it, do they stay open? 1111 00:54:45,675 --> 00:54:46,795 Sure. Weather or now 1112 00:54:47,925 --> 00:54:48,925 Mohammad's plants. 1113 00:54:50,575 --> 00:54:53,515 It used to be so used to get a surcharge. 1114 00:54:53,535 --> 00:54:55,075 If they start up after a certain, 1115 00:54:55,185 --> 00:54:57,075 like every quarter they get a surcharge for power. 1116 00:54:57,455 --> 00:54:58,835 So that was their shutoff. 1117 00:54:58,835 --> 00:55:00,115 They didn't want to get that surcharge 1118 00:55:00,115 --> 00:55:01,235 unless they knew they had enough work. 1119 00:55:03,445 --> 00:55:05,905 So they paid for that. So that was what it used to be. 1120 00:55:05,905 --> 00:55:06,905 I don't know what it's now. 1121 00:55:09,865 --> 00:55:12,755 Well regardless, usually run Halloween. 1122 00:55:13,925 --> 00:55:16,095 Yeah. You're you're gambling at that point. Yeah, 1123 00:55:16,515 --> 00:55:17,855 That's what we've always for 1124 00:55:18,635 --> 00:55:20,535 25 years I've been at the company, we've, 1125 00:55:20,535 --> 00:55:22,135 we've always said if you make it to Halloween, 1126 00:55:22,155 --> 00:55:23,255 all bets are off after that. 1127 00:55:24,215 --> 00:55:26,495 I mean I I can remember back when I was at the state 1128 00:55:26,495 --> 00:55:30,015 that we were, they handed out turkeys, 1129 00:55:30,015 --> 00:55:32,975 the contractor did hand out turkeys to the paving guys. 1130 00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:35,535 So that tells you what later it was. 1131 00:55:37,595 --> 00:55:39,655 Yeah. And it stink because you 1132 00:55:39,655 --> 00:55:41,455 Don't know, like we could have a fabulous fall 1133 00:55:41,455 --> 00:55:43,375 and perfect weather right there into 1134 00:55:43,535 --> 00:55:44,935 December 1st and you know, 1135 00:55:45,635 --> 00:55:48,885 But can't count. 1136 00:55:48,995 --> 00:55:50,405 I've also, the fire department, 1137 00:55:50,785 --> 00:55:53,645 two separate occasions been out on October 1st 1138 00:55:53,785 --> 00:55:55,285 for foot snowstorms. 1139 00:55:55,455 --> 00:55:57,645 Right. That brought down trees and power lines. 1140 00:55:58,235 --> 00:55:59,605 Yeah. Those early ones are the worst because 1141 00:55:59,605 --> 00:56:01,765 That's not that, that's only a couple weeks away. Right, 1142 00:56:01,975 --> 00:56:02,975 Right. 1143 00:56:02,975 --> 00:56:03,325 Those, the early ones are the worst 1144 00:56:03,445 --> 00:56:04,285 'cause there's still leaves on the trees. 1145 00:56:04,285 --> 00:56:09,135 Right. And anything else from the, 1146 00:56:09,285 --> 00:56:10,335 from the board for Josh 1147 00:56:10,355 --> 00:56:14,215 before we move on, anything you wanted to Chris, 1148 00:56:14,215 --> 00:56:15,255 other than the heads up? 1149 00:56:15,765 --> 00:56:16,765 Nope. 1150 00:56:17,595 --> 00:56:19,895 No. Other than the public works, they, 1151 00:56:19,895 --> 00:56:23,055 they've done a fantastic job this, this summer. 1152 00:56:23,925 --> 00:56:27,625 The gravel road. Pretty well caught up now I think. 1153 00:56:28,245 --> 00:56:30,225 I'm glad to hear, hear that. We, 1154 00:56:30,425 --> 00:56:33,625 I think we really are honing in on a, on a little good team. 1155 00:56:35,405 --> 00:56:36,825 We are doing a lot. 1156 00:56:37,055 --> 00:56:40,025 Josh and McCadden are doing a lot to, to make it 1157 00:56:41,325 --> 00:56:43,145 or of a team atmosphere, 1158 00:56:46,365 --> 00:56:48,015 some struggles over the years with that. 1159 00:56:49,835 --> 00:56:51,015 How do you do that? Yeah, 1160 00:56:51,595 --> 00:56:52,595 He is alive. 1161 00:56:53,625 --> 00:56:56,605 That's amazing. Like he announced his own entrance. Yeah. 1162 00:56:56,755 --> 00:57:00,505 Yeah. So I would just say that they, 1163 00:57:00,505 --> 00:57:02,305 they've done a fantastic job and, 1164 00:57:02,925 --> 00:57:04,545 and things look good overall. 1165 00:57:06,775 --> 00:57:11,095 I was, I was pleased to hear after getting flooded 23 1166 00:57:11,235 --> 00:57:15,095 and 24 and not being able to get the gravel road work done, 1167 00:57:15,275 --> 00:57:17,495 we were already behind coming into 23, 1168 00:57:17,995 --> 00:57:19,495 but to know that we finally caught up. 1169 00:57:19,495 --> 00:57:22,465 That's good news. 1170 00:57:23,085 --> 00:57:24,385 And Holden Road looks good too, 1171 00:57:24,405 --> 00:57:26,905 but I mean, Sterling Hill looks good by the way. Yes it 1172 00:57:26,905 --> 00:57:27,905 Does. 1173 00:57:28,075 --> 00:57:29,145 We're not done with a adapt, 1174 00:57:29,765 --> 00:57:32,455 but it's much better than this. 1175 00:57:32,565 --> 00:57:35,955 Yeah, I didn't realize that there was supposed 1176 00:57:35,955 --> 00:57:37,155 to be a drainage ditch from culvert. 1177 00:57:37,155 --> 00:57:40,875 Saw the right head so I it's so full. 1178 00:57:41,235 --> 00:57:45,245 I had never seen them there. All right, 1179 00:57:45,345 --> 00:57:48,445 we will move on to item number nine. 1180 00:57:50,785 --> 00:57:55,465 Authorizing an unbudgeted purchase from the highway fund 1181 00:57:55,885 --> 00:57:58,765 for a line locator. 1182 00:58:01,125 --> 00:58:05,535 Chris apparently is tired 1183 00:58:05,555 --> 00:58:06,695 of listening to Bob 1184 00:58:06,715 --> 00:58:09,415 and I drone on, so he gave me a cheat sheet. 1185 00:58:12,095 --> 00:58:14,035 Oh, that's not it at all. I'm just trying to be helpful. 1186 00:58:14,375 --> 00:58:16,475 No, it is helpful. Rather than us trying 1187 00:58:16,475 --> 00:58:17,835 to pick out what we feel is right. 1188 00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:22,755 Yes it is. Mr. Martin knows 1189 00:58:22,755 --> 00:58:26,075 advocating for purchasing a more advanced utility locator 1190 00:58:26,075 --> 00:58:28,195 than the basic model included in the FY 1191 00:58:28,195 --> 00:58:29,595 27 water fund budget. 1192 00:58:30,335 --> 00:58:32,475 The water fund is budgeted $5,500 1193 00:58:32,535 --> 00:58:34,435 to replace an aging line locator. 1194 00:58:35,415 --> 00:58:39,915 The proposed radio detection RD 8,200 SG survey grade 1195 00:58:40,065 --> 00:58:43,075 utility locator, which improves the town's ability 1196 00:58:43,135 --> 00:58:46,195 to locate buried infrastructure, tracer wires, 1197 00:58:46,715 --> 00:58:48,795 electrical lines, and other conductive utilities. 1198 00:58:50,395 --> 00:58:52,505 Would that pick up PVC water lines? 1199 00:58:53,165 --> 00:58:55,785 No, unless there's a tracer on it. Okay. 1200 00:58:56,525 --> 00:58:58,305 The equipment would supplement Dig safe 1201 00:58:58,305 --> 00:59:00,865 by locating privately owned infrastructure on town. 1202 00:59:01,185 --> 00:59:03,625 Property that dig safe typically does not identify 1203 00:59:04,435 --> 00:59:06,775 the locator could benefit multiple town departments 1204 00:59:06,775 --> 00:59:10,495 and assist with work at the recreation area, fire stations, 1205 00:59:10,625 --> 00:59:12,335 water facilities, municipal building, 1206 00:59:12,355 --> 00:59:13,535 and other town properties. 1207 00:59:14,715 --> 00:59:16,815 Its mapping capabilities would improve infrastructure 1208 00:59:16,815 --> 00:59:19,575 records and reduce uncertainty about the location 1209 00:59:19,715 --> 00:59:21,015 of utilities. 1210 00:59:22,115 --> 00:59:25,325 Josh proposes purchasing the equipment from EJ Prescott 1211 00:59:25,985 --> 00:59:29,325 for $16,231 and 66 cents. 1212 00:59:30,725 --> 00:59:32,265 The water fund would contribute the budget 1213 00:59:32,285 --> 00:59:35,865 of $5,500 while the highway fund would provide the remaining 1214 00:59:35,865 --> 00:59:39,145 unbudgeted 10,000 731 66. 1215 00:59:40,295 --> 00:59:43,705 Josh believes savings in the FY 27 paving budget resulting 1216 00:59:43,705 --> 00:59:45,665 from the Graniteville Road grant could cover 1217 00:59:45,965 --> 00:59:47,105 the additional cost. 1218 00:59:47,805 --> 00:59:49,065 The town manager agrees 1219 00:59:49,065 --> 00:59:50,945 that the more advanced equipment could save time 1220 00:59:51,125 --> 00:59:52,505 and record keeping. 1221 00:59:53,565 --> 00:59:55,785 The town manager emphasizes that funds approved 1222 00:59:55,785 --> 00:59:58,945 for specific purposes should not be routinely redirected 1223 00:59:58,945 --> 01:00:01,265 without a clear and transparent justification. 1224 01:00:02,965 --> 01:00:04,345 Select board is being asked 1225 01:00:04,345 --> 01:00:07,225 to decide whether purchasing the more capable equipment now 1226 01:00:07,445 --> 01:00:10,225 is preferable to buying a less effective budgeted model. 1227 01:00:10,865 --> 01:00:12,285 Our manager also suggests 1228 01:00:12,395 --> 01:00:14,645 that the paving budget savings could instead be used 1229 01:00:15,065 --> 01:00:17,845 to pave the gravel portion of Sterling Hill, 1230 01:00:17,975 --> 01:00:20,725 which was previously deferred because of limited funding. 1231 01:00:22,475 --> 01:00:26,535 And I will let you add to that, 1232 01:00:26,805 --> 01:00:29,865 Josh, anything you may want to. 1233 01:00:30,255 --> 01:00:31,255 Sure, 1234 01:00:31,585 --> 01:00:32,585 Yeah. 1235 01:00:32,585 --> 01:00:34,745 So we like it. Like I said, we were planned to get a 1236 01:00:35,365 --> 01:00:39,985 pretty basic line here or sewer 1237 01:00:39,985 --> 01:00:44,925 and water, basically just hook 1238 01:00:44,925 --> 01:00:47,285 it on and, and it reads it out 1239 01:00:47,785 --> 01:00:51,655 and mark with paint, this one 1240 01:00:52,275 --> 01:00:54,415 has the g really what you're paying 1241 01:00:54,415 --> 01:00:56,015 for is the GPS capability of it. 1242 01:00:56,355 --> 01:00:57,935 And it can go down to, 1243 01:01:01,265 --> 01:01:02,845 so it's very accurate. 1244 01:01:03,945 --> 01:01:07,325 You put it over, you mark it, pins it to your phone 1245 01:01:07,905 --> 01:01:09,885 or tablet, whatever you have it 1246 01:01:10,305 --> 01:01:11,485 and then you just keep going down. 1247 01:01:11,625 --> 01:01:15,285 You can pin you know, align from here over 1248 01:01:15,285 --> 01:01:17,965 to my office if you want to just keep going down through 1249 01:01:18,565 --> 01:01:19,685 and then puts it in the map 1250 01:01:19,865 --> 01:01:21,165 and then we have it for later on. 1251 01:01:22,865 --> 01:01:25,925 One of the things, and I, you know, as far 1252 01:01:25,925 --> 01:01:28,525 as all town usage is really the, 1253 01:01:28,585 --> 01:01:30,645 the rec department is the one that came to mind the most. 1254 01:01:31,065 --> 01:01:33,325 We have all these lines that come out 1255 01:01:33,325 --> 01:01:35,645 of our main power over there 1256 01:01:35,645 --> 01:01:37,205 and we don't really know where they go 1257 01:01:38,015 --> 01:01:39,015 Light poles. 1258 01:01:39,015 --> 01:01:41,165 Right, thank you. 1259 01:01:42,155 --> 01:01:44,655 But where they go, yeah, in and in between, we don't know. 1260 01:01:45,675 --> 01:01:49,535 And our, you know, as-builts are only as good as the person 1261 01:01:49,535 --> 01:01:52,775 that drew 'em on there and who knows, maybe got nicked 1262 01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:54,455 and they had to go around something 1263 01:01:54,455 --> 01:01:56,175 and they just, you know, drew straight line. 1264 01:01:56,935 --> 01:02:00,335 There's no repeatable locating on it. 1265 01:02:00,335 --> 01:02:01,735 Like, oh, there's no tie off. 1266 01:02:01,735 --> 01:02:04,575 So you can't go, okay, this was here, you know, you can go 1267 01:02:04,575 --> 01:02:07,855 to a break, a water break, you can go to a sewer break 1268 01:02:07,955 --> 01:02:09,135 and pin all those things. 1269 01:02:10,475 --> 01:02:12,655 And this right there in the map. 1270 01:02:14,855 --> 01:02:18,115 And you have mapping software that these go. 1271 01:02:20,045 --> 01:02:22,705 Yep. We, we already have Esri 1272 01:02:22,765 --> 01:02:27,065 or Art Map that we use that have all of our water lines 1273 01:02:27,365 --> 01:02:30,985 and sewer lines and culverts and that sort of stuff. 1274 01:02:31,045 --> 01:02:33,865 So it, all that stuff in there. Let this be more accurate. 1275 01:02:34,045 --> 01:02:37,785 Yep. Like right now it was ba our water line maps were based 1276 01:02:37,805 --> 01:02:40,415 on basically the drawings we have now. 1277 01:02:40,415 --> 01:02:41,655 They were kind of like laid in there 1278 01:02:41,955 --> 01:02:44,295 and as we go along we're kind of making 'em better, 1279 01:02:45,165 --> 01:02:47,855 more accurate with the, the little GPS that I have 1280 01:02:47,855 --> 01:02:49,895 that's accurate within four feet. 1281 01:02:50,815 --> 01:02:53,855 I can give you an example. We had problems 1282 01:02:54,245 --> 01:02:57,745 with the sewer in this building several years ago now, 1283 01:02:59,725 --> 01:03:01,625 and we knew there was a line that went out 1284 01:03:01,855 --> 01:03:03,465 through a process of elimination. 1285 01:03:03,755 --> 01:03:05,305 There were two separate sewer lines 1286 01:03:05,765 --> 01:03:06,985 and one went out to the road 1287 01:03:07,125 --> 01:03:09,545 and they, they knew there was a problem 1288 01:03:09,545 --> 01:03:11,225 with it, but couldn't find it. 1289 01:03:11,245 --> 01:03:14,105 Didn't know where to, didn't know where to, they, you know, 1290 01:03:14,205 --> 01:03:17,705 relied on Gary Munson remembering 20 years ago 1291 01:03:17,815 --> 01:03:19,105 what he might have remembered. 1292 01:03:19,645 --> 01:03:21,665 It was, I don't Was you here for that? It 1293 01:03:21,665 --> 01:03:23,945 Was right after or right before I got here. 1294 01:03:23,945 --> 01:03:28,185 Yeah. And it was like ridiculous trying to figure out 1295 01:03:28,185 --> 01:03:30,945 where this sewer line was ultimately the problem, I think, 1296 01:03:30,965 --> 01:03:32,665 if I remember right, it was the telephone pole 1297 01:03:32,665 --> 01:03:35,425 that got drilled through it out by the road. But 1298 01:03:35,905 --> 01:03:36,905 This was on one 10? 1299 01:03:37,285 --> 01:03:38,265 No, right here. Oh, 1300 01:03:38,265 --> 01:03:39,385 this is right here for this building. 1301 01:03:40,925 --> 01:03:43,105 The amount of work that went into trying to figure out 1302 01:03:44,435 --> 01:03:45,985 where the sewer line, 1303 01:03:45,985 --> 01:03:48,265 the existing sewer line was located, was it, 1304 01:03:48,925 --> 01:03:51,425 So Hours trying to figure it out. So how 1305 01:03:51,425 --> 01:03:52,705 Would that locate a sewer line? 1306 01:03:52,705 --> 01:03:54,105 Or you would locate it when you put it 1307 01:03:54,105 --> 01:03:55,305 in or if you had Yeah, 1308 01:03:55,765 --> 01:03:56,765 So two things. 1309 01:03:56,765 --> 01:03:57,905 You could do it when you put it in, 1310 01:03:57,925 --> 01:04:02,145 but also our camera has a sonar thing on it. 1311 01:04:02,175 --> 01:04:03,745 It's right at the camera So you can, 1312 01:04:03,845 --> 01:04:05,105 you could follow that way too. 1313 01:04:05,445 --> 01:04:06,785 You could chase the mouse. Yep. 1314 01:04:12,705 --> 01:04:13,705 Poise. 1315 01:04:14,355 --> 01:04:16,535 I'm assuming when we were had to hire 1316 01:04:16,565 --> 01:04:19,655 that company up at the tower to locate the power lines, 1317 01:04:19,715 --> 01:04:21,215 we could do it ourselves. Now 1318 01:04:21,675 --> 01:04:22,675 We could. 1319 01:04:22,675 --> 01:04:24,135 I dunno if I trust it. 1320 01:04:24,445 --> 01:04:26,695 Well, I just, there, there was a lot going on there, 1321 01:04:27,315 --> 01:04:29,095 but like for the wreck area, definitely, 1322 01:04:29,125 --> 01:04:32,305 like, there was a lot, 1323 01:04:36,175 --> 01:04:37,595 But point is dig safe. 1324 01:04:37,595 --> 01:04:39,555 That was outta dig safe's purview. Right? 1325 01:04:39,555 --> 01:04:40,915 We had to hire somebody to do 1326 01:04:40,915 --> 01:04:41,915 That. 1327 01:04:41,915 --> 01:04:42,435 Yeah. Goes 1328 01:04:42,845 --> 01:04:43,845 Quite often. 1329 01:04:43,845 --> 01:04:45,795 Goes to the meter or the pole or whatever. 1330 01:04:46,135 --> 01:04:47,275 That's where they end. So 1331 01:04:47,415 --> 01:04:50,275 That's, that's bizarre because it is safe. 1332 01:04:50,475 --> 01:04:55,295 I painted lines where I was going to have 1333 01:04:55,455 --> 01:04:58,225 to dig, dig well beyond, 1334 01:04:59,875 --> 01:05:01,295 and they mark the water line, 1335 01:05:02,485 --> 01:05:06,255 they mark the power line from the pole all the way even to, 1336 01:05:06,315 --> 01:05:08,975 to my garage and to my, they mark both of them 1337 01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:10,015 with their little flags. 1338 01:05:10,445 --> 01:05:12,055 They marked everything even after the meter. 1339 01:05:12,325 --> 01:05:15,535 Usually they don't do water lines, they call up. 1340 01:05:15,795 --> 01:05:17,370 You have to call us in. Then we go. Mark. 1341 01:05:18,015 --> 01:05:20,335 Definitely did. We got lucky. 1342 01:05:20,895 --> 01:05:23,015 I guess I got somebody definitely an 1343 01:05:23,015 --> 01:05:24,455 overachiever. It sounds they 1344 01:05:24,455 --> 01:05:28,015 Don't, they don't do sew water lines for 1345 01:05:28,605 --> 01:05:30,535 most U2 municipalities. 1346 01:05:32,045 --> 01:05:35,585 Lucky me. Alright, 1347 01:05:35,805 --> 01:05:38,345 so have some notes here. 1348 01:05:38,375 --> 01:05:39,825 I'll open it up to the board. 1349 01:05:39,945 --> 01:05:44,245 I do have some questions, comments, but 1350 01:05:44,835 --> 01:05:47,125 Yeah, I don't really have, you know, I think it, 1351 01:05:47,465 --> 01:05:51,645 it makes more sense to get the better equipment. 1352 01:05:51,725 --> 01:05:56,525 I, I can a lot of different places it would be useful and, 1353 01:05:56,625 --> 01:06:00,865 and beyond a dink safe safety factor. 1354 01:06:00,865 --> 01:06:03,585 There's the factor of you don't know, like, you know, 1355 01:06:03,585 --> 01:06:07,985 private homeowners thought stuff within the, the right 1356 01:06:07,985 --> 01:06:11,385 of way that, you know, it may not be after or otherwise 1357 01:06:11,565 --> 01:06:15,785 and it's one encounter or, 1358 01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:20,375 or one project goes awry 1359 01:06:20,375 --> 01:06:22,295 and it's just a lot more 1360 01:06:22,295 --> 01:06:26,875 than not. 1361 01:06:27,375 --> 01:06:28,435 That's Josh's judgment. 1362 01:06:29,805 --> 01:06:31,545 And I agree with Todd. I just have one quick question. 1363 01:06:31,545 --> 01:06:33,145 When is Sterling Hill scheduled? Currently? 1364 01:06:33,975 --> 01:06:35,025 It's not. Okay. 1365 01:06:35,875 --> 01:06:39,695 It was two years ago. Not this year. Yeah. Last year. 1366 01:06:39,915 --> 01:06:42,775 And we, it was part, we cut Sterling Hill 1367 01:06:43,435 --> 01:06:45,975 and the milling on this side of town, out 1368 01:06:45,975 --> 01:06:48,535 of the paving budget to bring it down to what was, 1369 01:06:48,645 --> 01:06:51,615 Yeah, it was during the first part of the Ukraine war. 1370 01:06:53,355 --> 01:06:58,325 Basically went from say like $8 a ton to 120. 1371 01:06:59,535 --> 01:07:01,195 So thank you. 1372 01:07:03,395 --> 01:07:05,935 So you think this will save you time 1373 01:07:06,635 --> 01:07:09,735 and make your job easier and more accurate. 1374 01:07:09,805 --> 01:07:10,805 Information 1375 01:07:11,735 --> 01:07:13,575 Accuracy is like record keeping is 1376 01:07:13,725 --> 01:07:15,175 what we really need to focus on. 1377 01:07:15,335 --> 01:07:18,615 I, in my opinion, like in my department, 1378 01:07:18,645 --> 01:07:22,735 like I have flat files from a hundred years ago in my office 1379 01:07:23,555 --> 01:07:24,735 and they're all rolled up 1380 01:07:24,755 --> 01:07:26,015 and if I just open them up, 1381 01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:28,215 I don't know if they're gonna roll back together. 1382 01:07:28,755 --> 01:07:30,415 You know, it's, it's a gamble every time. 1383 01:07:30,885 --> 01:07:32,375 I've got a lot of 'em digitized, 1384 01:07:32,375 --> 01:07:35,775 but you know, there's, there's still not perfect. 1385 01:07:35,965 --> 01:07:39,855 Sometimes you gotta go to the, the actual one to do that. 1386 01:07:40,445 --> 01:07:43,375 Well I heard you say when I was online how, 1387 01:07:43,405 --> 01:07:44,935 when you're not here anymore, 1388 01:07:45,195 --> 01:07:47,975 but that's gonna be a lot of years. So 1389 01:07:47,975 --> 01:07:50,375 That's not at least, but 1390 01:07:50,375 --> 01:07:53,055 Even Josh may not have the best memory after 20 years. 1391 01:07:53,435 --> 01:07:57,295 That's true. We don't have, I mean we have a few, 1392 01:07:57,315 --> 01:08:00,735 but you know, you don't have those 30 year people anymore. 1393 01:08:01,185 --> 01:08:04,015 40 year people in we, it's probably not fair 1394 01:08:04,015 --> 01:08:05,175 of us to rely on them either. 1395 01:08:05,355 --> 01:08:08,855 Yep. And we need to keep better records than that. Yeah. 1396 01:08:11,505 --> 01:08:14,285 So I regarding, 1397 01:08:17,845 --> 01:08:19,745 yes, it's, it's an unbudgeted 1398 01:08:20,585 --> 01:08:22,285 and yes, we got another grant 1399 01:08:22,435 --> 01:08:24,045 that we never know if we're gonna get 'em until 1400 01:08:24,045 --> 01:08:25,365 after the budget has already passed. 1401 01:08:25,835 --> 01:08:27,845 That money typically has become fund balance 1402 01:08:28,065 --> 01:08:30,245 and conversation is not, you know, 1403 01:08:30,305 --> 01:08:31,445 so we might as well spend it. 1404 01:08:31,445 --> 01:08:33,845 That's certainly not the, the flavor of the conversation, 1405 01:08:34,925 --> 01:08:37,245 but to me it doesn't make any sense 1406 01:08:37,345 --> 01:08:40,645 to se spend $5,500 for something 1407 01:08:40,645 --> 01:08:45,005 that doesn't full fully fulfill our needs when we have 1408 01:08:45,985 --> 01:08:50,855 the money available to us to do something that will fulfill 1409 01:08:57,275 --> 01:08:58,095 You have other questions? 1410 01:08:58,645 --> 01:09:03,455 Well, I guess we don't, the Sterling Hill conversation. 1411 01:09:03,555 --> 01:09:06,135 So how it went last time, it was me that got it next. 1412 01:09:06,525 --> 01:09:07,535 I'll, I'll own it. 1413 01:09:11,145 --> 01:09:14,645 The concern was that it's gonna increase the cost 1414 01:09:14,645 --> 01:09:17,165 to repair it every time it gets washed out. 1415 01:09:17,605 --> 01:09:19,045 I think three or four times. 1416 01:09:19,195 --> 01:09:20,965 It's either completely or partially been 1417 01:09:20,965 --> 01:09:23,535 washed out since 23. No, 1418 01:09:24,505 --> 01:09:26,845 Didn't wash out in 23 or 24. 1419 01:09:27,115 --> 01:09:28,805 Just the edges. The edges washed out. 1420 01:09:29,115 --> 01:09:31,445 Yeah, we washed the whole road was since the 1421 01:09:31,465 --> 01:09:32,565 box culvert, we've 1422 01:09:32,785 --> 01:09:35,205 Oh nine and 11, then they put the box 1423 01:09:35,445 --> 01:09:36,445 Culvert. 1424 01:09:36,445 --> 01:09:37,765 Yeah. So since the box culvert we just used 1425 01:09:37,895 --> 01:09:39,245 loose portions of the road. 1426 01:09:39,945 --> 01:09:44,895 Yep. But still, if it was paved we would have to repave it 1427 01:09:44,895 --> 01:09:48,335 and if we weren't dealing with FEMA money, obviously 1428 01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:50,415 that would be an expense to the town. 1429 01:09:51,215 --> 01:09:56,155 The other concern is a lot of those residents below 1430 01:09:56,155 --> 01:10:00,925 that gravel portion have have hardened s of 1431 01:10:00,925 --> 01:10:05,665 that little brook by some manner or another. 1432 01:10:06,825 --> 01:10:09,645 And I would worry about large sheets of asphalt, 1433 01:10:10,745 --> 01:10:13,635 what could possibly happen if they were to 1434 01:10:14,735 --> 01:10:15,795 get all jammed up. 1435 01:10:15,815 --> 01:10:18,725 And it's not a natural 1436 01:10:20,645 --> 01:10:23,245 ravine anymore, but that's just my 2 cents on Sterling Hill. 1437 01:10:23,245 --> 01:10:25,005 Obviously we're not gonna decide on that tonight, 1438 01:10:25,005 --> 01:10:27,485 but I just wanted those were, those are the same arguments 1439 01:10:27,485 --> 01:10:29,045 that I brought up two years ago or 1440 01:10:29,205 --> 01:10:32,075 whenever it was that we're having that, that conversation. 1441 01:10:32,585 --> 01:10:33,715 It's, it is just a thing 1442 01:10:33,715 --> 01:10:36,275 that this opportunity may not ever present. 1443 01:10:36,275 --> 01:10:38,755 Getting, getting Sterling Hill back into a, 1444 01:10:39,185 --> 01:10:41,795 into the plan is gonna be tough, you know, given 1445 01:10:42,455 --> 01:10:43,875 the cost of things. 1446 01:10:44,015 --> 01:10:46,635 But I just, I just threw that out there 1447 01:10:46,635 --> 01:10:51,355 because it is something that did get but 1448 01:10:53,155 --> 01:10:55,815 24 Paving, which is what got cut. 1449 01:10:56,245 --> 01:10:57,375 Exactly. And 1450 01:10:57,475 --> 01:11:00,855 and you're, you're a hundred percent right in saying 1451 01:11:00,855 --> 01:11:03,375 that the, the, the picture is different this time. 1452 01:11:04,365 --> 01:11:08,485 I think it was around at the time it was around $60,000 1453 01:11:08,505 --> 01:11:12,285 to pave it or I was just found number actually. 1454 01:11:15,495 --> 01:11:18,115 So it's the, the money that's here is well with the, 1455 01:11:18,115 --> 01:11:20,355 that's left over from that paving grid that we got. 1456 01:11:20,705 --> 01:11:22,915 It's, it's well within the means if we wanted 1457 01:11:22,915 --> 01:11:24,035 to pursue that in the future. 1458 01:11:24,255 --> 01:11:28,655 But since it came up, I just wanted to believe Dave was 1459 01:11:28,655 --> 01:11:29,735 around for those conversations. 1460 01:11:29,935 --> 01:11:33,135 I know you weren't believe Todd wasn't. Todd wasn't. So 1461 01:11:35,665 --> 01:11:39,845 If, sorry Tracy, just if, as far as the locator goes, 1462 01:11:39,845 --> 01:11:43,135 whether there's any sort of grant funding 1463 01:11:43,135 --> 01:11:44,735 through Rural Water 1464 01:11:44,875 --> 01:11:48,295 or even the passive equipment grant, they, you know, 1465 01:11:48,295 --> 01:11:49,575 if this would qualify under that 1466 01:11:49,675 --> 01:11:51,975 and whether we've utilized it on something else or not, 1467 01:11:51,975 --> 01:11:55,735 but I think it's this time of year that the applications go 1468 01:11:55,915 --> 01:11:58,295 for that and I, I can't remember it's five or $10,000. 1469 01:11:59,045 --> 01:12:00,295 Yeah. I don't know if it would've 1470 01:12:00,295 --> 01:12:02,135 because it's, you know, geared towards safety 1471 01:12:02,315 --> 01:12:03,735 and you might be able to make the 1472 01:12:04,495 --> 01:12:05,535 Necklace or Argument. 1473 01:12:05,755 --> 01:12:07,015 But I mean it's something to, 1474 01:12:07,045 --> 01:12:08,655 it's something it is. We are looking at it right now. 1475 01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:12,175 Yeah. And if there's something more priority 1476 01:12:13,495 --> 01:12:15,055 Priority by all means, but 1477 01:12:15,325 --> 01:12:17,295 Send batch also. 1478 01:12:17,435 --> 01:12:18,435 So it's, 1479 01:12:19,935 --> 01:12:21,455 I know what it's capped at this year. 1480 01:12:23,405 --> 01:12:25,275 Every year it's, that's a different Right, 1481 01:12:29,675 --> 01:12:30,675 Your number Josh? 1482 01:12:30,675 --> 01:12:33,285 Yeah. Okay. If we, I'll throw out a question. 1483 01:12:33,705 --> 01:12:36,445 If we paved Sterling Hill, would it be open in the winter? 1484 01:12:38,355 --> 01:12:40,675 I wouldn't advocate for that. No. 1485 01:12:41,635 --> 01:12:45,195 I mean a gravel road it, gosh can correct me if I'm wrong, 1486 01:12:45,215 --> 01:12:48,675 but a gravel road in general is expensive to, to maintain. 1487 01:12:50,375 --> 01:12:55,315 And so paving it I think would help alleviate some 1488 01:12:55,315 --> 01:12:57,955 of the constant work we're having to do down there. 1489 01:12:57,975 --> 01:13:00,515 The erosion and stuff like that, that occurs, 1490 01:13:00,615 --> 01:13:01,715 you know, on a rainstorm. 1491 01:13:02,295 --> 01:13:04,875 So it mean less times we have to go down there. 1492 01:13:04,875 --> 01:13:07,675 However, I still don't think personally 1493 01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,835 that hill could be open in the wintertime, 1494 01:13:10,655 --> 01:13:12,355 but I I would not advocate for that. 1495 01:13:13,755 --> 01:13:15,115 I remember now. I remember 1496 01:13:15,665 --> 01:13:16,475 Both ways. Yeah, 1497 01:13:16,835 --> 01:13:17,835 I remember it both ways. 1498 01:13:17,835 --> 01:13:20,075 Both ways. It was little, but I do remember Yep. 1499 01:13:21,265 --> 01:13:23,535 You're looking at 24 1500 01:13:26,595 --> 01:13:30,625 To pave that whole road. That doesn't sound right. 1501 01:13:31,125 --> 01:13:35,295 Try again. Usually it 1502 01:13:35,295 --> 01:13:36,855 to sharpen your pencil he has to 1503 01:13:38,755 --> 01:13:39,755 Yeah. 1504 01:13:39,755 --> 01:13:40,725 Blunt that thing up a little bit. 1505 01:13:42,785 --> 01:13:47,565 Yep. 24,000. I'm just 1506 01:13:47,565 --> 01:13:49,445 comparing it to the driveway that we paved. 1507 01:13:50,725 --> 01:13:52,485 I was thinking that I wasn't gonna say it. 1508 01:13:54,095 --> 01:13:56,345 That was You hire them out. I need my driveway done. 1509 01:13:57,415 --> 01:14:00,695 I mean if we're, if we're gonna do it, you know, as part 1510 01:14:00,695 --> 01:14:03,655 of, you know, paving next year if we're gonna, 1511 01:14:03,675 --> 01:14:04,735 so it would have to by itself. 1512 01:14:05,165 --> 01:14:07,135 Yeah, you're gonna, you're probably double that. 1513 01:14:08,495 --> 01:14:10,115 So we could incorporate it next year 1514 01:14:10,115 --> 01:14:11,605 and we could just carry that money over 1515 01:14:12,265 --> 01:14:15,005 or have that if we so choose to, to pursue that. 1516 01:14:15,315 --> 01:14:20,035 Have that due before July 1st. Due before July 1st. 1517 01:14:20,145 --> 01:14:21,275 Yeah, that would work too. 1518 01:14:22,065 --> 01:14:24,235 Well Chris, talk about it with Josh 1519 01:14:24,255 --> 01:14:25,555 and if you wanna put it on an agenda, 1520 01:14:25,805 --> 01:14:28,375 we'll, we'll talk about that. 1521 01:14:29,665 --> 01:14:31,325 We obviously can't do anything about it now. 1522 01:14:33,505 --> 01:14:37,745 So I think that horse is done for So 1523 01:14:40,005 --> 01:14:41,855 what would the, I would entertain that motion. 1524 01:14:42,815 --> 01:14:45,775 I would like to make a motion that we 1525 01:14:47,695 --> 01:14:51,695 purchase a radio detection RD 8,200 1526 01:14:52,635 --> 01:14:56,975 SG survey grade locator kit ILOC 1527 01:14:57,895 --> 01:15:02,815 length and five inch transmitter signal clamp from EJ 1528 01:15:02,975 --> 01:15:04,255 Prescott of Berlin 1529 01:15:05,035 --> 01:15:08,055 and the amount of $16,231 1530 01:15:08,075 --> 01:15:12,295 and 66 cents of which 5,500 will be paid 1531 01:15:12,295 --> 01:15:16,975 by the water fund with a balance of $10,731 1532 01:15:16,995 --> 01:15:20,055 and 66 cents coming from the highway fund. 1533 01:15:20,735 --> 01:15:21,735 Second. 1534 01:15:22,405 --> 01:15:24,375 Alright, we have a motion and a second. 1535 01:15:24,535 --> 01:15:27,175 I assume there is no further conversation, just 1536 01:15:27,175 --> 01:15:29,015 Don't set it down behind your vehicle and 1537 01:15:30,315 --> 01:15:31,315 On the ground. 1538 01:15:34,615 --> 01:15:36,835 Aye, with that being motion 1539 01:15:37,735 --> 01:15:39,555 and second I'll call the question. 1540 01:15:39,615 --> 01:15:41,875 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. 1541 01:15:42,095 --> 01:15:43,795 And I did receive this 1542 01:15:43,795 --> 01:15:45,035 and I received an email from Bob 1543 01:15:45,035 --> 01:15:47,395 with comments on a few items and he was okay with this 1544 01:15:48,235 --> 01:15:50,035 because it does benefit all. 1545 01:15:50,175 --> 01:15:51,315 So now that we've all voted, 1546 01:15:51,515 --> 01:15:54,275 I will share Bob's thoughts on that. 1547 01:15:58,145 --> 01:16:02,445 And number 10, consider awarding an East Cobble Hill 1548 01:16:02,985 --> 01:16:07,645 Cot replacement contract town received an 1549 01:16:09,425 --> 01:16:10,865 e Trans Structures grant 1550 01:16:10,885 --> 01:16:15,625 for $83,600 funded on a funded on a 90 10 1551 01:16:15,625 --> 01:16:18,145 basis to replace an 18 inch culvert 1552 01:16:18,145 --> 01:16:21,225 with a 48 inch culvert on East Cowell Hill Road near 1553 01:16:21,325 --> 01:16:23,105 1 53 East Cowell Hill. 1554 01:16:23,445 --> 01:16:27,715 Is that the A-frame? It's, it's below it. 1555 01:16:28,645 --> 01:16:32,705 Next What, what's his name? The owned A-frame It's in else. 1556 01:16:32,935 --> 01:16:37,565 Yeah. Okay. Penny Town officials determined 1557 01:16:37,565 --> 01:16:39,805 that the project exceeded the town's in-house capabilities 1558 01:16:39,905 --> 01:16:42,325 and issued it for competitive bidding town. 1559 01:16:42,325 --> 01:16:45,685 Sent bid request to 12 contractors on August 28th, 2026 1560 01:16:45,705 --> 01:16:47,765 and posted the project on the Vermont bid registry. 1561 01:16:48,505 --> 01:16:49,725 Six bids were received 1562 01:16:49,905 --> 01:16:53,845 by the September 17th deadline ranging from 98,700 from 1563 01:16:53,845 --> 01:16:55,085 Northwoods excavating 1564 01:16:55,265 --> 01:16:59,085 to 33,300 from Hal Holstrom Excavating. 1565 01:17:00,445 --> 01:17:02,615 Josh Martinel recommends awarding the contract 1566 01:17:02,615 --> 01:17:03,775 to Halstrom Excavating 1567 01:17:03,875 --> 01:17:05,935 and the town manager supports the recommendation. 1568 01:17:06,375 --> 01:17:09,405 Halstrom Excavating previously completed the Wildes burg 1569 01:17:09,435 --> 01:17:11,685 bank stabilization project for the town 1570 01:17:11,905 --> 01:17:14,325 and the work was considered satisfactory. 1571 01:17:16,265 --> 01:17:17,805 And anything to add? 1572 01:17:24,295 --> 01:17:26,015 I just have a couple, I mean Yep. 1573 01:17:26,435 --> 01:17:28,095 And I I know they've done satisfactory work. 1574 01:17:28,095 --> 01:17:30,655 You're not concerned that it's like 50% less than the next? 1575 01:17:31,595 --> 01:17:35,335 No, we met with 'em, we met the, you know, 1576 01:17:35,335 --> 01:17:37,815 partner just Paul or whatever, they came out 1577 01:17:37,815 --> 01:17:39,295 and looked at it with us, you know, 1578 01:17:39,355 --> 01:17:43,855 and satisfied with, you know, 1579 01:17:44,025 --> 01:17:45,055 being able to do it for that. 1580 01:17:46,485 --> 01:17:47,545 And you're also not concerned 1581 01:17:47,545 --> 01:17:50,225 that this bid is exactly the same as the next bid. Okay. 1582 01:17:50,665 --> 01:17:53,065 I was gonna ask that after we got to the next one, but 1583 01:17:53,385 --> 01:17:56,375 I have the sticky note on this one, so, okay. 1584 01:17:56,385 --> 01:17:57,455 Those are just my two questions. 1585 01:17:57,455 --> 01:17:59,215 The coincidences for some reason don't 1586 01:17:59,215 --> 01:18:00,255 tickle this board's fancy. 1587 01:18:02,135 --> 01:18:06,095 I guess they even had a chuckle between themselves that, 1588 01:18:06,235 --> 01:18:07,295 you know, should we leave it 1589 01:18:07,295 --> 01:18:09,055 or should we just like change it a little bit 1590 01:18:09,055 --> 01:18:10,135 and they're like, leave that. 1591 01:18:10,735 --> 01:18:12,655 I would've either tacked a couple hundred dollars, 1592 01:18:13,225 --> 01:18:14,655 taken a couple hundred dollars off. 1593 01:18:14,885 --> 01:18:16,375 That was the debate they had internally 1594 01:18:17,115 --> 01:18:18,115 For the same reason. 1595 01:18:18,155 --> 01:18:22,775 32 9 9 9. Exactly. Something. Yeah, something. 1596 01:18:23,445 --> 01:18:28,335 Okay. So this is a big 12. 1597 01:18:29,075 --> 01:18:31,935 We need, this is a long one. How long is it? 1598 01:18:33,075 --> 01:18:35,635 It's 65 feet. I saw that somewhere. 1599 01:18:36,045 --> 01:18:37,555 We've already purchased the culvert. 1600 01:18:37,575 --> 01:18:40,155 So it's, it's literally just, it's deep is the problem. 1601 01:18:40,335 --> 01:18:42,195 You know, it's 17 feet deep on one end. 1602 01:18:42,775 --> 01:18:45,935 We would have to eat rent equipment and stuff 1603 01:18:46,155 --> 01:18:49,935 and by the sounds they're planning on gonna have it done. 1604 01:18:50,205 --> 01:18:52,735 They may work overnight and be done Monday day. So 1605 01:18:54,805 --> 01:18:57,765 So Cobble Hill will be closed Yeah. 1606 01:18:57,825 --> 01:19:00,885 For through traffic. It'll be open to e to that point, 1607 01:19:01,025 --> 01:19:03,445 but it's gonna be essentially be a, a double dead end. Yep. 1608 01:19:03,755 --> 01:19:05,525 Yeah. For short time. As 1609 01:19:06,035 --> 01:19:07,475 Long as we do some outreach on that. 1610 01:19:07,535 --> 01:19:10,295 Yep. To notify people. All right. 1611 01:19:10,295 --> 01:19:11,895 What is the flavor of the board? 1612 01:19:17,795 --> 01:19:19,155 I will make a motion here and the, 1613 01:19:19,385 --> 01:19:20,555 when I get back to the, my right. 1614 01:19:21,175 --> 01:19:22,755 So that's what I get for jumping ahead. 1615 01:19:22,815 --> 01:19:24,035 That's my papers. Yeah. 1616 01:19:26,735 --> 01:19:27,875 So I would move 1617 01:19:27,895 --> 01:19:30,515 to award these SC Hill culvert replacement contract 1618 01:19:30,515 --> 01:19:34,755 to Holstrom Excavating Northfield and the amount of $33,300 1619 01:19:35,785 --> 01:19:37,525 Second. David can have it. 1620 01:19:38,025 --> 01:19:41,765 We have a motion and a second. Any further conversation? 1621 01:19:43,505 --> 01:19:45,875 Hearing none. All those in favor 1622 01:19:46,915 --> 01:19:48,735 A Aye Aye. 1623 01:19:48,915 --> 01:19:52,765 And there we have it. Don't recall. 1624 01:19:53,185 --> 01:19:57,465 Did Bob have a Yeah he said he was, he said he was good 1625 01:19:57,465 --> 01:19:58,785 with the two bids as presented. 1626 01:19:58,885 --> 01:19:59,885 So 1627 01:20:00,255 --> 01:20:02,025 Just told us about one coming up. Oh now 1628 01:20:02,855 --> 01:20:04,865 This is the one right on the corner, right as it, 1629 01:20:04,895 --> 01:20:06,745 it's kinda that sweeping corner and it comes off the 1630 01:20:07,505 --> 01:20:08,505 The hill. 1631 01:20:08,505 --> 01:20:11,195 So it's a deep, it plugged during 23. 1632 01:20:11,215 --> 01:20:12,755 It plugged and then washed out the road. 1633 01:20:14,425 --> 01:20:15,555 Make sure I was at the right spot. 1634 01:20:16,255 --> 01:20:18,315 It was one that was flagged as under size. 1635 01:20:20,115 --> 01:20:21,125 This would bring it up too. 1636 01:20:21,625 --> 01:20:22,685 We haven't had a lot of luck with 1637 01:20:22,685 --> 01:20:23,765 the structures grants lately. 1638 01:20:26,065 --> 01:20:27,465 I Tried to get one for the culvert 1639 01:20:27,465 --> 01:20:28,505 under Snow Bridge Road. 1640 01:20:28,665 --> 01:20:30,465 'cause that's another Dek one that's undersized. 1641 01:20:31,005 --> 01:20:33,345 We did Bolster Road recently on the, yeah, 1642 01:20:33,345 --> 01:20:36,105 so there's this one bolster road there. 1643 01:20:36,225 --> 01:20:39,985 I still have another one to do up on Emerald Street. 1644 01:20:40,175 --> 01:20:43,145 That one's a Culver. I didn't think it was last year. 1645 01:20:43,375 --> 01:20:44,025 This one might been. 1646 01:20:45,555 --> 01:20:49,235 So I'm happy with that. 1647 01:20:49,545 --> 01:20:50,545 Yeah, 1648 01:20:51,735 --> 01:20:53,585 Good work going after those two by the way. 1649 01:20:55,745 --> 01:20:58,365 And is this I, no, 1650 01:20:58,465 --> 01:21:00,765 before we move on, missed my own question. 1651 01:21:01,795 --> 01:21:03,885 What Happens with the balance of the grant? 1652 01:21:05,825 --> 01:21:07,835 They, They keep it. That's what I thought. 1653 01:21:07,895 --> 01:21:09,595 So it's not like fema. It's not like fema. 1654 01:21:09,595 --> 01:21:11,155 No, I didn't think so. It's 1655 01:21:11,155 --> 01:21:14,655 Just a reimbursement Number. 1656 01:21:14,955 --> 01:21:19,555 11 sitter awarding the EMS East Bay 1657 01:21:19,555 --> 01:21:21,275 parking lot paving contract. 1658 01:21:23,075 --> 01:21:24,975 The ambulance fund has budgeted. 1659 01:21:25,635 --> 01:21:28,015 Yes, I said budgeted $70,000 1660 01:21:28,115 --> 01:21:30,135 to repave the parking lot at the Berry town. 1661 01:21:30,215 --> 01:21:33,015 EMS located at for McLaughlin Road as part 1662 01:21:33,015 --> 01:21:34,015 of a multi-year effort 1663 01:21:34,075 --> 01:21:36,615 to upgrade parking lots at town facilities. 1664 01:21:36,925 --> 01:21:41,095 $70,000 allocation includes $50,000 for capital improvements 1665 01:21:41,095 --> 01:21:44,015 and $20,000 for Department of Public Works labor 1666 01:21:44,015 --> 01:21:46,975 to remove the existing asphalt bid requests were sent 1667 01:21:47,055 --> 01:21:48,455 to five local paving contractors. 1668 01:21:48,555 --> 01:21:50,175 August 28th, 2026. 1669 01:21:50,175 --> 01:21:52,615 And all five submitted bids by September 17th. 1670 01:21:53,365 --> 01:21:56,095 Bids range from $43,000 from J McDonald 1671 01:21:56,115 --> 01:21:58,855 to 33,300 from Holstrom Excavating 1672 01:21:59,445 --> 01:22:01,975 project includes removing the existing asphalt, 1673 01:22:02,045 --> 01:22:03,095 preparing the site, 1674 01:22:03,115 --> 01:22:06,295 and installing approximately 160 tons of type three 1675 01:22:06,635 --> 01:22:08,055 and type four pavement. 1676 01:22:09,515 --> 01:22:12,685 Competitive pricing allows the selected contractor tole the 1677 01:22:12,685 --> 01:22:15,725 entire project with a without assistance from public 1678 01:22:15,725 --> 01:22:17,285 works, which is a bonus. 1679 01:22:18,035 --> 01:22:21,685 Josh recommends awarding EMS paving contract 1680 01:22:21,685 --> 01:22:24,365 to Hal some excavating the town manager 1681 01:22:24,485 --> 01:22:25,885 supports the recommendation. 1682 01:22:29,475 --> 01:22:32,855 Oh, they see now would be your 1683 01:22:34,225 --> 01:22:36,155 time to point that out. 1684 01:22:40,245 --> 01:22:42,605 You can do it too. Yeah, that is 1685 01:22:42,705 --> 01:22:44,325 so you're not hearing things. 1686 01:22:45,245 --> 01:22:47,325 Those of you watching later whole folks. 1687 01:22:47,355 --> 01:22:49,245 That is exactly the same bid. 1688 01:22:49,245 --> 01:22:52,195 That was agenda item number 10. 1689 01:22:54,585 --> 01:22:56,565 And do we have an idea on schedule? 1690 01:22:58,825 --> 01:23:01,845 Not for this one Likely spring. 1691 01:23:03,195 --> 01:23:04,485 There's still time to do it now, 1692 01:23:04,545 --> 01:23:07,765 but I, we gave them until the end of this spring. 1693 01:23:08,385 --> 01:23:09,385 So 1694 01:23:12,965 --> 01:23:14,935 I'll say the same thing I said when 1695 01:23:14,935 --> 01:23:16,015 we paved this out here. 1696 01:23:16,475 --> 01:23:18,055 Please no duck lawns, 1697 01:23:20,975 --> 01:23:23,185 nothing irritates me more than a freshly 1698 01:23:23,185 --> 01:23:24,425 paved parking lot with puddles. 1699 01:23:24,425 --> 01:23:25,425 And 1700 01:23:27,665 --> 01:23:32,345 I would move then to award lease bury EMS paving contract 1701 01:23:32,345 --> 01:23:34,185 to holster Excavating of Northfield in the amount 1702 01:23:34,185 --> 01:23:37,045 of 33302nd. 1703 01:23:38,455 --> 01:23:40,405 Right. We have a motion to second Any 1704 01:23:40,405 --> 01:23:41,525 further conversation. 1705 01:23:43,255 --> 01:23:45,535 Anything else you'd like to add or All right. 1706 01:23:45,645 --> 01:23:47,055 Hearing none. All those in favor? 1707 01:23:47,795 --> 01:23:51,535 Aye. Aye. And I already spilled the beans, 1708 01:23:51,635 --> 01:23:53,975 but Bob said he was okay with both of the bids. 1709 01:23:55,855 --> 01:24:00,235 He just liked that number. Yeah. 1710 01:24:01,375 --> 01:24:02,555 Hey, whatever. It works for us. 1711 01:24:02,775 --> 01:24:04,155 It was under budget on both of 'em. 1712 01:24:04,175 --> 01:24:08,135 So take it number 12. 1713 01:24:08,365 --> 01:24:10,655 Josh, I actually think we're done with you. 1714 01:24:11,595 --> 01:24:12,975 So I do have one thing. 1715 01:24:13,175 --> 01:24:15,215 I got a call from a resident, I'm sorry. 1716 01:24:15,355 --> 01:24:17,095 So I have to just bounce ahead so we don't have 1717 01:24:17,095 --> 01:24:21,425 to keep Josh here through round table with a concern 1718 01:24:22,655 --> 01:24:26,185 from a resident off of Liberty Libert Cent Street 1719 01:24:27,935 --> 01:24:29,385 with locating the water shut off. 1720 01:24:33,215 --> 01:24:34,215 We're not aware. 1721 01:24:35,695 --> 01:24:38,875 So Her name is Sheila. 1722 01:24:38,955 --> 01:24:40,435 I don't know, I didn't get a last name. 1723 01:24:41,395 --> 01:24:44,735 Is it the one that's really funky under it? 1724 01:24:44,735 --> 01:24:45,975 Found a shutoff there? 1725 01:24:45,975 --> 01:24:49,445 So there's one person that had, it's like a manifold. 1726 01:24:49,445 --> 01:24:51,885 There's a a one shutoff for like three houses 1727 01:24:52,705 --> 01:24:54,005 and then there's another shutoff. 1728 01:24:54,705 --> 01:24:56,405 And I believe they found him. So 1729 01:24:58,265 --> 01:25:01,035 This was just yesterday that I had this, 1730 01:25:03,865 --> 01:25:05,365 If it's not the same person, then I'll, 1731 01:25:06,895 --> 01:25:10,345 Well it was, it was Mr. Mitchell that, that checked in 1732 01:25:10,345 --> 01:25:12,985 with me because he was on the board when we awarded 1733 01:25:12,985 --> 01:25:14,345 that waterline project up there. 1734 01:25:14,765 --> 01:25:17,305 And his concern was that we had a re a project 1735 01:25:17,485 --> 01:25:21,385 that's was completed in the, the relative recent past 1736 01:25:22,255 --> 01:25:25,465 last few years and current enough 1737 01:25:25,465 --> 01:25:27,425 where we should have had records on, on 1738 01:25:27,425 --> 01:25:28,865 where those shutoffs were located. 1739 01:25:29,415 --> 01:25:32,945 Yeah. So all the G Ps, they're all GPS for that project. 1740 01:25:33,485 --> 01:25:37,185 The ones that were outside of their work were not gps. 1741 01:25:37,845 --> 01:25:40,145 So this could be one of those ones that's on that header. 1742 01:25:40,285 --> 01:25:42,185 And they didn't work on that one. 1743 01:25:42,455 --> 01:25:44,305 They only worked on the one that served the three. 1744 01:25:44,405 --> 01:25:46,425 So that's why that one might not be locatable. 1745 01:25:48,095 --> 01:25:49,405 Understood. Gotta 1746 01:25:49,405 --> 01:25:50,405 Love. 1747 01:25:50,405 --> 01:25:52,445 There's, there's I believe two sections. 1748 01:25:52,905 --> 01:25:55,245 One on Riverton and there's one on Brook Street I believe 1749 01:25:55,795 --> 01:25:59,835 that have these weird, like one curb stop 1750 01:25:59,835 --> 01:26:01,475 and then it goes out to like two or three houses 1751 01:26:01,695 --> 01:26:03,370 and then they each have their own curb stop. 1752 01:26:03,545 --> 01:26:05,365 But we only did work within the right of way. 1753 01:26:05,425 --> 01:26:07,285 So like it goes to that first curb Stop 1754 01:26:07,555 --> 01:26:09,325 that we have the next one. 1755 01:26:09,325 --> 01:26:13,775 We don't curb Stop. Right on the old 1756 01:26:15,115 --> 01:26:16,115 Curb. 1757 01:26:16,115 --> 01:26:17,685 Stop at the main line and then each house has one, right? 1758 01:26:17,835 --> 01:26:19,605 Yeah. Okay. 1759 01:26:19,605 --> 01:26:20,645 And then he wanted me to point out 1760 01:26:20,645 --> 01:26:21,965 that the Churchill Road sign is missing. 1761 01:26:23,315 --> 01:26:27,285 Okay. The corner of Westerville and Westford right there. 1762 01:26:27,915 --> 01:26:30,605 Okay. That was it for 1763 01:26:31,715 --> 01:26:36,425 That Honorable Select board member. 1764 01:26:38,075 --> 01:26:41,305 Thank you Josh. No thank you. I join Ryan. Thank you. 1765 01:26:42,525 --> 01:26:43,665 You wanna go see that after 1766 01:26:44,765 --> 01:26:45,785 The front end loader? 1767 01:26:46,745 --> 01:26:50,305 I saw it. I was gonna do it in round table, but I will now. 1768 01:26:51,265 --> 01:26:53,665 I volunteered for bulk trash day. 1769 01:26:54,615 --> 01:26:58,145 Ryan was operating it and did a great job. 1770 01:26:58,245 --> 01:27:00,105 It moved beautifully. 1771 01:27:02,435 --> 01:27:05,955 Although I was a little upset where one woman went up 1772 01:27:06,015 --> 01:27:09,035 to Ryan and go Thank you for all your hard work. 1773 01:27:10,335 --> 01:27:11,355 I'm like, he's 1774 01:27:11,355 --> 01:27:12,555 Sitting in there with 1775 01:27:14,045 --> 01:27:17,315 radio a seat that moves. 1776 01:27:17,465 --> 01:27:18,875 It's a beautiful piece of equipment. 1777 01:27:19,475 --> 01:27:21,115 I sat in it. It's very comfortable. Yeah. 1778 01:27:22,705 --> 01:27:24,225 I gotta point out to these guys, the, 1779 01:27:24,225 --> 01:27:26,705 the biggest thing about that, that was the selling point is 1780 01:27:26,705 --> 01:27:28,425 that there's a bar in the front 1781 01:27:28,575 --> 01:27:31,385 that when you have the bucket up you can see out 1782 01:27:31,385 --> 01:27:33,705 and the bar's not right where you need to see to load the 1783 01:27:33,705 --> 01:27:34,705 Truck. 1784 01:27:34,705 --> 01:27:35,265 Yes. So remember you mentioning in 1785 01:27:35,265 --> 01:27:37,465 that when we were purchasing it, we 1786 01:27:37,465 --> 01:27:39,265 Had the bucket up when we first got here tonight 1787 01:27:39,325 --> 01:27:41,425 and that's why Chris and I sat in it 1788 01:27:41,425 --> 01:27:42,865 and you can look right out like, 1789 01:27:43,375 --> 01:27:44,665 like there's nothing there. And 1790 01:27:44,665 --> 01:27:45,665 Then how much was that? 1791 01:27:47,565 --> 01:27:50,345 It was after trading. Like 170. 1792 01:27:50,735 --> 01:27:53,585 Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember 1793 01:27:53,585 --> 01:27:54,585 Exactly. 1794 01:27:54,585 --> 01:27:55,105 Nice piece of equipment 1795 01:27:56,145 --> 01:27:57,145 Collapsed. 1796 01:27:57,145 --> 01:27:58,635 Would you say the, what'd you say retail was on it? 1797 01:27:58,635 --> 01:28:00,915 2 80, 72 80. Somewhere There. 1798 01:28:01,905 --> 01:28:02,955 They're all about the same. 1799 01:28:04,685 --> 01:28:08,135 Just so Director Danforth doesn't get equipment. Envy 1800 01:28:09,965 --> 01:28:10,965 Crushes. 1801 01:28:12,755 --> 01:28:14,125 Nothing to be envious of. 1802 01:28:14,275 --> 01:28:15,765 Yeah. The next ambulance that you need, 1803 01:28:15,795 --> 01:28:17,005 that might be what they fix it with. 1804 01:28:19,945 --> 01:28:22,565 Thanks Josh. Yes. Thanks Josh. Have a good evening. 1805 01:28:23,345 --> 01:28:27,025 All right. Number 12. We need 1806 01:28:27,025 --> 01:28:29,825 to appoint a voting delegate effort with cities 1807 01:28:29,925 --> 01:28:31,585 and town's Annual meeting. 1808 01:28:33,545 --> 01:28:36,595 They'll conduct Vermont League Cities town annual meeting 1809 01:28:36,625 --> 01:28:38,115 virtually on October 6th. 1810 01:28:39,835 --> 01:28:43,095 The meetings include the annual meeting, the league itself, 1811 01:28:43,155 --> 01:28:46,175 the property of fund, otherwise known as passive 1812 01:28:46,835 --> 01:28:49,655 and the VLCT employment resource 1813 01:28:49,675 --> 01:28:52,735 and benefits Trust herb. 1814 01:28:52,955 --> 01:28:55,375 And if voting delegate must be appointed 1815 01:28:55,375 --> 01:28:58,055 by the select board in advance of those meetings and passed. 1816 01:28:58,055 --> 01:29:01,055 For the most part the has been the account manager 1817 01:29:02,575 --> 01:29:03,765 would entertain a motion. 1818 01:29:05,385 --> 01:29:06,645 You may wanna say something. 1819 01:29:06,755 --> 01:29:08,565 Yeah. Before you make your motion. Yeah, go ahead. 1820 01:29:08,875 --> 01:29:11,805 That I found out today when I received the, 1821 01:29:13,465 --> 01:29:16,325 the voting paperwork for VERB 1822 01:29:16,945 --> 01:29:19,165 and for passive that they're actually not going 1823 01:29:19,165 --> 01:29:21,765 to be having their meeting in regular 1824 01:29:22,285 --> 01:29:24,165 VLCT meeting on October 6th. 1825 01:29:24,555 --> 01:29:27,245 It's actually gonna be, I can't remember off the top my head 1826 01:29:27,245 --> 01:29:28,725 if it's November 8th or 18th. 1827 01:29:29,985 --> 01:29:34,565 So what I would just say is, is leave out the date. Yeah. 1828 01:29:34,865 --> 01:29:36,525 And, and just to point it the 1829 01:29:36,525 --> 01:29:37,925 voting delegate for those meetings 1830 01:29:38,225 --> 01:29:42,045 At AT and verb annual meetings and then scratch the rest. 1831 01:29:44,755 --> 01:29:45,755 Okay. 1832 01:29:47,935 --> 01:29:50,525 Ready? I would move to points. 1833 01:29:52,225 --> 01:29:54,525 The town manager is Barry Town's voting delegate 1834 01:29:54,525 --> 01:29:55,725 for the VLCT. 1835 01:29:55,725 --> 01:29:58,365 Passive and verb annual meetings. Second. 1836 01:29:59,775 --> 01:30:04,625 Aye. Motion to second. Any conversation? Hearing none. 1837 01:30:04,765 --> 01:30:09,695 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Didn't know about that one. 1838 01:30:09,695 --> 01:30:12,375 So he didn't provide me with any commentary on it. 1839 01:30:12,375 --> 01:30:14,815 Quite sure he'll be fine with, well 1840 01:30:14,885 --> 01:30:17,415 Plus he wanted, We could have 1841 01:30:17,995 --> 01:30:19,375 Can be a select He 1842 01:30:19,375 --> 01:30:21,615 Could, that would've been, he is not here. 1843 01:30:22,475 --> 01:30:23,735 That's how that used to work. If you, 1844 01:30:23,885 --> 01:30:25,935 He'd be the tree warden too, if he wanted to be. 1845 01:30:26,645 --> 01:30:30,735 Yeah. Tree warden delinquent 1846 01:30:30,755 --> 01:30:31,855 tax collector. Sure. 1847 01:30:32,555 --> 01:30:36,445 Keep going. Okay. 1848 01:30:36,865 --> 01:30:38,125 We need to pay the bills. 1849 01:30:40,985 --> 01:30:42,845 So we do not have Bob here 1850 01:30:42,865 --> 01:30:45,445 so we can take them all at once if he wasn't in there 1851 01:30:45,445 --> 01:30:46,445 Anyway. 1852 01:30:46,445 --> 01:30:46,885 I don't think there were any Nelson. There 1853 01:30:46,885 --> 01:30:48,245 Was not any Nelson's regardless. 1854 01:30:51,535 --> 01:30:54,755 So we have September 15th and September 22nd. 1855 01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:59,635 I believe both FY 26 and 27th. It is 1856 01:30:59,635 --> 01:31:01,995 Not a FY 26 for September 22nd. 1857 01:31:02,665 --> 01:31:05,375 Okay. But there was for the 15th. 1858 01:31:05,795 --> 01:31:09,755 Yes. Unless somebody else 1859 01:31:09,755 --> 01:31:10,835 wants to move this 1860 01:31:13,215 --> 01:31:16,155 To Approve the accounts payable warrants 1861 01:31:16,255 --> 01:31:20,995 for fiscal year 2027 for September 15th and September 22nd. 1862 01:31:22,265 --> 01:31:24,435 Well as the 20 fiscal year. 26th. 1863 01:31:24,835 --> 01:31:28,445 September 15th, 26th warrant. 1864 01:31:28,835 --> 01:31:32,405 I'll second that It be fiscal year 27th for this 22nd. 1865 01:31:32,875 --> 01:31:34,925 Yeah, it's fiscal year 27th. Yeah, 1866 01:31:34,925 --> 01:31:37,005 It's the 27th and 27. Then went back to the 26th. 1867 01:31:37,065 --> 01:31:41,175 All It's okay. Then I second 1868 01:31:42,275 --> 01:31:43,275 Thank you. 1869 01:31:43,275 --> 01:31:45,185 Sure. Anyway, regardless. Motion. Sorry. 1870 01:31:51,185 --> 01:31:52,445 Josh's ride Minutes. 1871 01:31:54,655 --> 01:31:56,665 It's amazing how quiet those things have gotten 1872 01:31:56,845 --> 01:31:57,905 in in 20 years. 1873 01:31:57,925 --> 01:31:59,145 He used to be on a job site 1874 01:31:59,225 --> 01:32:01,385 and they were all, every piece 1875 01:32:01,385 --> 01:32:03,105 of equipment was obnoxious so loud. 1876 01:32:04,615 --> 01:32:08,325 There was a Newel Road grant with Carol 1877 01:32:08,465 --> 01:32:09,685 and Johnson Equipment. 1878 01:32:09,925 --> 01:32:11,005 I was not aware of that. 1879 01:32:11,005 --> 01:32:13,765 Grant Carroll Concrete and Johnson Rental. 1880 01:32:15,055 --> 01:32:16,105 What was that grant? 1881 01:32:21,145 --> 01:32:25,195 I know we're working on, I think, I think 1882 01:32:25,195 --> 01:32:26,315 that was just part 1883 01:32:26,315 --> 01:32:30,475 of the brand aids 1884 01:32:31,735 --> 01:32:32,955 Got, yeah, 1885 01:32:33,085 --> 01:32:36,795 We're working with the state now, 1886 01:32:37,935 --> 01:32:39,355 but we're not there yet. 1887 01:32:41,215 --> 01:32:43,155 So I think that must have just been grant 1888 01:32:43,265 --> 01:32:46,155 aids a grant on it. 1889 01:32:46,535 --> 01:32:48,355 On the invoice. That's what it was. Yeah. 1890 01:32:50,865 --> 01:32:54,285 We had an incident with a PD cruiser. 1891 01:32:56,065 --> 01:32:57,425 A what? A PD cruiser. 1892 01:32:58,045 --> 01:32:59,465 Oh. Quite some time ago. 1893 01:32:59,925 --> 01:33:01,025 Oh. Just finally getting effect. 1894 01:33:01,095 --> 01:33:02,265 Just finally getting out. 1895 01:33:02,295 --> 01:33:04,705 Yeah. You did mention that sometimes months ago. 1896 01:33:04,815 --> 01:33:06,425 Yeah. Yep. You did mention that. 1897 01:33:08,205 --> 01:33:13,055 And how is our zoning bylaw consultant 1898 01:33:13,945 --> 01:33:15,975 doing on their budget versus progress? 1899 01:33:16,335 --> 01:33:18,815 I think I, I think it's coming along. 1900 01:33:19,975 --> 01:33:22,735 I haven't, Brandon, I haven't seen Brandon since they met 1901 01:33:22,735 --> 01:33:23,975 last Wednesday to get a brief 1902 01:33:24,355 --> 01:33:25,535 on it other than what I've read. 1903 01:33:27,495 --> 01:33:31,135 I think they're moving in the right directions. 1904 01:33:31,135 --> 01:33:32,415 Lemme say think we're, I think 1905 01:33:32,415 --> 01:33:33,575 they're fine as far as the budget goes. 1906 01:33:33,575 --> 01:33:34,895 They're not gonna charge us any more than 1907 01:33:34,895 --> 01:33:36,575 what our contract is regardless. 1908 01:33:37,345 --> 01:33:38,935 Right. That's been made clear. Right. 1909 01:33:38,935 --> 01:33:41,595 But I, I've just, I want them to get all of the grant 1910 01:33:41,595 --> 01:33:43,595 that they can because that's the, obviously 1911 01:33:43,595 --> 01:33:44,755 that's the business that they're 1912 01:33:44,755 --> 01:33:46,435 in, you know, for their business. 1913 01:33:46,595 --> 01:33:50,395 I want, but I also want, I wanna make sure that we get all 1914 01:33:50,395 --> 01:33:51,715 that we can get out of it. 1915 01:33:53,795 --> 01:33:54,975 So that's, that's good to hear. 1916 01:33:55,925 --> 01:33:57,645 This is something that's come up 1917 01:33:58,645 --> 01:34:00,605 numerous times over numerous years 1918 01:34:00,825 --> 01:34:02,245 and it just hasn't come up in a, 1919 01:34:03,585 --> 01:34:08,165 how can we possibly have a meter at a, 1920 01:34:12,035 --> 01:34:16,955 on our Novus, if you look through the invoices, our, 1921 01:34:17,055 --> 01:34:21,255 our meter stations have a meter 1922 01:34:22,215 --> 01:34:23,575 transmit information. 1923 01:34:23,715 --> 01:34:26,255 We get the information, we all know that they're working 1924 01:34:27,035 --> 01:34:29,255 and there's $0 and 0 cents. 1925 01:34:30,965 --> 01:34:32,725 I don't know how they could possibly be transmitting 1926 01:34:32,725 --> 01:34:34,165 and doing something without using it. It 1927 01:34:34,165 --> 01:34:36,165 Must be such a, I don't know. I don't know. 1928 01:34:36,505 --> 01:34:38,485 Is it so low voltage that it's not enough 1929 01:34:38,485 --> 01:34:39,885 to gotta be meter to pick it up. 1930 01:34:40,035 --> 01:34:41,325 It's really not picking up any. 1931 01:34:42,335 --> 01:34:45,225 Okay. Al mentioned some stuff at the PD shed 1932 01:34:45,245 --> 01:34:47,465 he wasn't happy about. Was that resolved? 1933 01:34:47,685 --> 01:34:50,925 Oh Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm sure. 1934 01:34:50,925 --> 01:34:52,245 Believe me, if Al wasn't happy, 1935 01:34:53,185 --> 01:34:54,565 I'm sure it was he Wouldn't let it go. 1936 01:34:55,305 --> 01:34:57,495 And then I'm gonna save, 1937 01:34:57,735 --> 01:34:59,215 I think the, I think the police department's 1938 01:34:59,215 --> 01:35:00,375 very pleased with it too. 1939 01:35:00,845 --> 01:35:02,855 Yeah. I'm gonna save the next one for round the table. 1940 01:35:02,915 --> 01:35:04,975 So that's all I had. That was enough on, 1941 01:35:07,445 --> 01:35:09,325 I was just gonna ask, do we recoup the costs like 1942 01:35:09,345 --> 01:35:11,085 for country canine for the rabies hold? 1943 01:35:11,185 --> 01:35:12,185 Do we, 1944 01:35:12,985 --> 01:35:13,985 Do we what? 1945 01:35:13,985 --> 01:35:15,405 Like recoup the costs when there's fees 1946 01:35:15,465 --> 01:35:17,245 for like the canines of rabies hold. 1947 01:35:18,195 --> 01:35:20,455 We budget some money for, We budget for that. 1948 01:35:23,055 --> 01:35:25,055 A lot like that $400 charge. 1949 01:35:25,055 --> 01:35:26,375 There was I think probably the biggest 1950 01:35:26,395 --> 01:35:27,575 one I've ever seen. That 1951 01:35:27,575 --> 01:35:28,575 Was a big one. 1952 01:35:28,575 --> 01:35:31,535 Yeah. Yeah. We don't, what 1953 01:35:31,535 --> 01:35:33,695 Was the outcome of the animal? Was the animal Okay. 1954 01:35:34,445 --> 01:35:35,975 That I don't know. We 1955 01:35:36,595 --> 01:35:37,875 Needed a happy ending on that one. 1956 01:35:42,055 --> 01:35:46,355 Yes. The animal is healthy and living life to 1957 01:35:46,465 --> 01:35:47,465 Fullest. 1958 01:35:47,465 --> 01:35:48,115 Exactly what I wanted to hear. 1959 01:35:49,475 --> 01:35:50,655 You're his new favorites. 1960 01:35:54,135 --> 01:35:58,085 All right. There's nothing else I will call the question. 1961 01:35:58,995 --> 01:36:01,305 All those in favor? Aye. 1962 01:36:02,765 --> 01:36:05,615 And we have it. We have paid the bills. 1963 01:36:06,195 --> 01:36:07,615 We need to ask if anybody's opposed. 1964 01:36:07,645 --> 01:36:11,215 It's unanimous miscellaneous. Mr. 1965 01:36:11,355 --> 01:36:12,735 Violet, do you have anything for it? 1966 01:36:13,015 --> 01:36:15,215 Just a couple of things and David's here, 1967 01:36:15,215 --> 01:36:17,095 but he reported to us in our department head meeting 1968 01:36:17,095 --> 01:36:20,215 that they have begun moving in some stuff 1969 01:36:20,315 --> 01:36:23,055 to the new EMS Berlin location. 1970 01:36:24,255 --> 01:36:26,175 I think you were hoping by the 1st of October. 1971 01:36:26,205 --> 01:36:29,415 What did you 1st of October That to actually be fully 1972 01:36:30,175 --> 01:36:31,935 moved in and operating out of 1973 01:36:31,935 --> 01:36:33,655 that new facility across the airport. 1974 01:36:34,835 --> 01:36:37,055 Do we get a tour? Oh, I'm sure we'll go on. 1975 01:36:37,325 --> 01:36:39,295 Yeah, we're just waiting on the final occupancy permit 1976 01:36:39,295 --> 01:36:40,855 from the fire Marsh's office and then we can 1977 01:36:41,075 --> 01:36:42,175 get everything in. 1978 01:36:42,175 --> 01:36:43,615 But the furniture got delivered today 1979 01:36:43,755 --> 01:36:46,175 and they finished the baseboards. 1980 01:36:46,175 --> 01:36:48,455 The fire alarm system's gotta get programmed tomorrow when 1981 01:36:48,455 --> 01:36:50,215 everything's in and I think they're gonna inspect 1982 01:36:50,215 --> 01:36:52,535 it hopefully this week. And we should be good to go. 1983 01:36:53,145 --> 01:36:54,695 We'll have to warn it, but we'll do a similar 1984 01:36:54,715 --> 01:36:57,495 to a site visit for real tape over or something like that. 1985 01:36:58,975 --> 01:37:02,235 Yep. And then the other thing is just a early reminder, 1986 01:37:03,615 --> 01:37:07,795 but the meeting schedule in October is altered a little bit. 1987 01:37:07,895 --> 01:37:09,835 You'll meet next on October 6th. 1988 01:37:11,135 --> 01:37:12,875 And this is for the public as much as anything 1989 01:37:12,895 --> 01:37:15,835 but October 6th and then again on October 13th. 1990 01:37:16,335 --> 01:37:18,115 So you'll meet back to back weeks 1991 01:37:18,415 --> 01:37:19,875 and then we'll not meet back 1992 01:37:19,875 --> 01:37:21,595 to back weeks in the month of October. 1993 01:37:22,265 --> 01:37:23,835 That was scheduling around. Yeah. 1994 01:37:24,145 --> 01:37:26,995 Scheduled around me. Really? Yeah, that's fine. 1995 01:37:28,055 --> 01:37:31,615 I just wanted to make, I'll say it again. October 6th but, 1996 01:37:36,215 --> 01:37:38,915 And the clerk's office, nothing. 1997 01:37:40,135 --> 01:37:43,515 All right. So round the table Mr. Susie, 1998 01:37:45,755 --> 01:37:48,675 I guess I will bring up the bulk trash day. 1999 01:37:48,755 --> 01:37:52,115 I think it's one of the best services that we have in town. 2000 01:37:52,775 --> 01:37:56,005 And one of the nice things is that 2001 01:37:56,565 --> 01:38:00,925 Spalding High School had some six kids who volunteered 2002 01:38:00,945 --> 01:38:03,005 as far as project graduation. 2003 01:38:03,785 --> 01:38:08,605 And the three that were our at our station all worked hard 2004 01:38:09,225 --> 01:38:11,845 and they could have cut loose at like 2005 01:38:12,385 --> 01:38:15,365 11 o'clock I think is when they were scheduled. 2006 01:38:15,745 --> 01:38:18,525 And they stayed till 1230 2007 01:38:18,625 --> 01:38:20,955 almost on their own. 2008 01:38:21,095 --> 01:38:25,035 So they worked hard and it was, it was nice to see 'em. 2009 01:38:25,035 --> 01:38:26,235 Had some nice conversations. 2010 01:38:26,955 --> 01:38:29,955 A picture of you with them. Oh, did, yeah. 2011 01:38:32,145 --> 01:38:33,565 So it was, it was good. 2012 01:38:33,705 --> 01:38:38,645 And you know, I did kneely, 2013 01:38:38,965 --> 01:38:41,205 I actually did get hurt, but it didn't last long. 2014 01:38:43,275 --> 01:38:45,585 Sorry. Basketball hoop. I heard. Yes. 2015 01:38:46,205 --> 01:38:48,265 It, it could have been bad if I didn't have the 2016 01:38:48,695 --> 01:38:49,905 hard hat on, hat on. 2017 01:38:50,155 --> 01:38:54,185 Truly. Yeah. The basketball hoop with probably 200 pounds 2018 01:38:54,245 --> 01:38:55,465 of sand in the base. 2019 01:38:56,445 --> 01:38:57,865 And I was at the back 2020 01:38:58,605 --> 01:39:01,665 and saying, hold on, I don't have a good hold of it. 2021 01:39:02,445 --> 01:39:05,825 But it got pulled off the back of the truck 2022 01:39:06,325 --> 01:39:07,905 and when it went flying forward, 2023 01:39:07,965 --> 01:39:09,825 it hit me right in the side of the head. 2024 01:39:09,965 --> 01:39:11,305 It stood up. Yep. 2025 01:39:12,205 --> 01:39:15,425 And it stunned me for a second, but, 2026 01:39:19,325 --> 01:39:20,385 but I was okay 2027 01:39:20,605 --> 01:39:23,145 and you won't mouth off to that basketball hoop again. 2028 01:39:23,675 --> 01:39:25,105 Could have called us. We'd have come on. 2029 01:39:25,485 --> 01:39:26,665 That's what I was afraid of. 2030 01:39:29,775 --> 01:39:32,195 But other than that it was just a, a great day. 2031 01:39:32,355 --> 01:39:36,955 I think I saw that there were like 37 volunteers overall. 2032 01:39:38,375 --> 01:39:40,355 So again, it was a, it was a great day 2033 01:39:40,355 --> 01:39:43,555 and get a chance to, you know, see a lot of people 2034 01:39:43,775 --> 01:39:44,955 and it was fun. 2035 01:39:47,775 --> 01:39:50,555 It is good. A volume like this year versus last fall, 2036 01:39:51,155 --> 01:39:52,355 I don't think it was as busy. 2037 01:39:52,455 --> 01:39:54,955 We only had two stations as opposed to three. 2038 01:39:56,655 --> 01:40:00,645 But every time you'd say it's not as busy 2039 01:40:00,905 --> 01:40:03,405 as it was in the spring and then you'd look 2040 01:40:03,405 --> 01:40:04,685 and it'd be six trucks. 2041 01:40:04,815 --> 01:40:06,685 Right, right back. 2042 01:40:07,505 --> 01:40:11,325 So I would say volume was probably down a little bit. Yeah, 2043 01:40:11,325 --> 01:40:12,565 They were Mattresses. 2044 01:40:13,065 --> 01:40:16,725 Yeah's got it right there. But I do the, just 2045 01:40:16,725 --> 01:40:20,365 to give you an idea, it was down here, not wrong. 2046 01:40:21,675 --> 01:40:25,565 They registered 142 trips, 2047 01:40:26,345 --> 01:40:28,805 that's down from 185 last year. 2048 01:40:28,965 --> 01:40:30,765 170 60 year before. 2049 01:40:31,385 --> 01:40:34,915 The year before that, the year that 125. 2050 01:40:34,935 --> 01:40:36,075 But that was the same year 2051 01:40:36,075 --> 01:40:37,635 that we had done the special collection 2052 01:40:37,635 --> 01:40:38,795 after the flood, after the floods. 2053 01:40:38,815 --> 01:40:43,555 So we attributed that. So it, it probably, 2054 01:40:44,075 --> 01:40:46,195 I mean in 2018 it was 218 trips. 2055 01:40:46,855 --> 01:40:48,675 So just looking at this, I'd, 2056 01:40:48,695 --> 01:40:51,395 I'd say we're down probably about 20 trips on average. I 2057 01:40:51,395 --> 01:40:52,395 Feel like I remember that. 2058 01:40:53,405 --> 01:40:54,605 Hmm. I feel like I remember 2059 01:40:54,605 --> 01:40:56,285 That the, the 20 18 1. 2060 01:40:56,285 --> 01:40:57,285 Yeah. 2061 01:40:57,775 --> 01:41:00,115 But you know, people are very appreciative of it. 2062 01:41:00,675 --> 01:41:03,005 Yeah. You know, I, I dunno, 2063 01:41:03,945 --> 01:41:05,445 I'm sure there's other towns that do it, 2064 01:41:05,545 --> 01:41:07,365 but I personally haven't seen one 2065 01:41:08,205 --> 01:41:09,765 I can Berry City does, don't they? 2066 01:41:10,675 --> 01:41:12,845 They do some form of it. I think. 2067 01:41:13,005 --> 01:41:15,445 I, I don't know if they do exactly like we do. I 2068 01:41:15,445 --> 01:41:18,525 Think theirs is more like tires and mattresses based. 2069 01:41:20,325 --> 01:41:22,005 I can say, I can report to you 2070 01:41:22,005 --> 01:41:25,725 after talking to Mike Gilbar that they did turn, 2071 01:41:25,845 --> 01:41:30,285 I think he said 10 people away that did not have proper 2072 01:41:30,805 --> 01:41:33,485 documentation to identify them as next question resident. 2073 01:41:34,865 --> 01:41:36,125 And we're pretty confident they were 2074 01:41:36,125 --> 01:41:37,365 not Berry Town residents. 2075 01:41:37,585 --> 01:41:41,165 How was that received? I think pretty well overall. 2076 01:41:42,285 --> 01:41:44,165 I, I don't think there were any issues with that. 2077 01:41:44,285 --> 01:41:47,285 I think there were more unhappy people about the mattress 2078 01:41:47,345 --> 01:41:52,045 and, and box spring charge is, is what I heard out of that. 2079 01:41:52,185 --> 01:41:54,005 But at the end of the day, I don't even think 2080 01:41:54,005 --> 01:41:55,045 that was horrible. 2081 01:41:55,145 --> 01:41:56,485 Was it Tina? Tina would know. No, 2082 01:41:56,485 --> 01:41:57,485 It wasn't horrible. 2083 01:41:57,485 --> 01:41:58,365 I mean we had people make some comments 2084 01:41:58,585 --> 01:42:00,285 or you know, had to come back 2085 01:42:00,285 --> 01:42:02,325 and pay us for them 'cause they didn't have the cash. 2086 01:42:03,225 --> 01:42:05,245 But then you had the people who made comments 2087 01:42:05,275 --> 01:42:08,125 that it was still cheaper than getting rid of them at Ella. 2088 01:42:08,465 --> 01:42:10,205 So Yes. And I had a, I had a friend 2089 01:42:10,205 --> 01:42:11,925 that just took one back to the landfill, 2090 01:42:11,985 --> 01:42:13,725 the transfer station, whatever you wanna call it. 2091 01:42:13,725 --> 01:42:16,045 It's still called transfer station in Williamstown. 2092 01:42:16,045 --> 01:42:17,085 It was $60 there. 2093 01:42:18,145 --> 01:42:20,405 So it is, it is definitely still a bargain. 2094 01:42:20,745 --> 01:42:22,885 Thanks of both of them. You know, some 2095 01:42:23,635 --> 01:42:24,755 of 'em are definitely surprised, 2096 01:42:24,855 --> 01:42:28,595 but again, still it's what it 2097 01:42:28,595 --> 01:42:29,595 Is. 2098 01:42:29,595 --> 01:42:32,415 Yeah. Certainly not a profit center. 2099 01:42:33,235 --> 01:42:35,175 No, it's not a money maker for the town, that's 2100 01:42:35,175 --> 01:42:39,995 for sure. Su I don't 2101 01:42:39,995 --> 01:42:40,995 Have anything This week. 2102 01:42:40,995 --> 01:42:41,935 No. 2103 01:42:43,855 --> 01:42:46,885 Susie, what? This crew? Yeah. 2104 01:42:47,355 --> 01:42:48,445 Looking good. Your heart 2105 01:42:48,905 --> 01:42:50,605 Before you got hit in the head, I guess 2106 01:42:53,085 --> 01:42:54,105 Mr. Vin. 2107 01:42:55,015 --> 01:42:57,665 Yeah. I don't have anything in particular. 2108 01:42:57,695 --> 01:43:00,105 Just to, I know Josh is working on it 2109 01:43:00,105 --> 01:43:02,265 and I didn't mention it, but just the, the roadside 2110 01:43:05,425 --> 01:43:08,065 trimming, you know, just a never ending. I no, they've 2111 01:43:08,065 --> 01:43:09,625 Been working, I've been hitting it pretty hard. But 2112 01:43:10,545 --> 01:43:12,705 I was thinking earlier, I was thinking to myself, 2113 01:43:13,105 --> 01:43:16,025 I remember as a younger man snowmobiling in Maine 2114 01:43:16,025 --> 01:43:18,985 and they put a hydraulically operated sickle 2115 01:43:18,985 --> 01:43:20,225 bear on the groomer. 2116 01:43:21,005 --> 01:43:24,465 So when I down on the trail, I just, I couldn't 2117 01:43:24,465 --> 01:43:27,185 but think to myself like we could do something like, like, 2118 01:43:27,575 --> 01:43:29,985 Like the gigantic chainsaws at the Yeah. 2119 01:43:30,075 --> 01:43:31,345 Power line companies have 2120 01:43:31,415 --> 01:43:34,065 that swing off the bottom of the helicopters. That's 2121 01:43:34,065 --> 01:43:34,705 Amazing. Yeah. 2122 01:43:35,095 --> 01:43:36,785 That looks like some scary work to me. 2123 01:43:36,885 --> 01:43:38,985 But we're a ways from there. So yeah. 2124 01:43:38,985 --> 01:43:39,985 Stick with the pruners. 2125 01:43:41,255 --> 01:43:44,245 While I was trying to answer some of my, all 2126 01:43:44,245 --> 01:43:45,565 of my questions were on that one warrant. 2127 01:43:45,645 --> 01:43:47,205 I didn't have any on any of the other ones. 2128 01:43:47,965 --> 01:43:49,725 I could not figure out further the life of me. 2129 01:43:49,725 --> 01:43:54,325 Why the cemetery commission minutes were in the AP slips 2130 01:43:54,505 --> 01:43:57,265 and then so I read them, I figured there had 2131 01:43:57,265 --> 01:44:00,105 to be a reason You put 2132 01:44:00,165 --> 01:44:01,865 The entire minutes in there. Yeah. 2133 01:44:02,835 --> 01:44:06,095 We put, we saw, we had somebody volunteer 2134 01:44:06,095 --> 01:44:08,295 to do some stone cleaning, cleaning 2135 01:44:09,475 --> 01:44:12,685 and they went 2136 01:44:12,685 --> 01:44:14,805 and bought the supplies that they needed to do it. 2137 01:44:15,615 --> 01:44:17,515 And they submitted reimbursement. 2138 01:44:17,515 --> 01:44:19,955 Well it was $2,500 worth of cleaner and whatnot. 2139 01:44:19,975 --> 01:44:22,075 The cemetery commission was not expecting. 2140 01:44:23,015 --> 01:44:24,435 So there was a long debate. 2141 01:44:24,435 --> 01:44:25,675 That was one of the things that was, 2142 01:44:26,065 --> 01:44:28,155 that was in the warrant, was reimbursement check. 2143 01:44:30,255 --> 01:44:31,995 And then I saw in there that it was, 2144 01:44:32,145 --> 01:44:36,075 there's conversation about, this isn't, it's not news to me, 2145 01:44:36,375 --> 01:44:40,195 but it possibly turning the vault 2146 01:44:40,225 --> 01:44:41,395 into a cemetery office. 2147 01:44:42,655 --> 01:44:44,915 And there was comment about the, the slate roof. 2148 01:44:46,255 --> 01:44:50,155 The slate roof was inspected a number of years ago 2149 01:44:50,495 --> 01:44:52,315 and was deemed to be delaminating 2150 01:44:53,565 --> 01:44:55,545 and that was how it appeared in the five-year 2151 01:44:55,575 --> 01:44:57,025 plan to start with. 2152 01:44:58,865 --> 01:45:00,725 And that was a slate roofing contractor 2153 01:45:00,725 --> 01:45:01,925 that did that evaluation. 2154 01:45:02,005 --> 01:45:03,325 I can't remember who it was, 2155 01:45:04,985 --> 01:45:06,365 but it was definitely evaluated. 2156 01:45:06,475 --> 01:45:07,725 It's definitely been some time. 2157 01:45:08,555 --> 01:45:10,485 That was the same time that the budget 2158 01:45:10,585 --> 01:45:13,365 for pointing it was, was generated. 2159 01:45:15,215 --> 01:45:17,475 Not by the company that I work for either. I will add. 2160 01:45:19,745 --> 01:45:23,105 So those are a couple things that need 2161 01:45:23,105 --> 01:45:24,265 to remain front and center. 2162 01:45:24,265 --> 01:45:26,345 They, they can't really be put on the back burner 2163 01:45:26,425 --> 01:45:27,825 'cause they're gonna be extremely costly. 2164 01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:32,455 If we go beyond the, the point of 2165 01:45:35,745 --> 01:45:37,205 of, you know, too far, 2166 01:45:38,025 --> 01:45:41,995 You're gonna Hear more about that 2167 01:45:43,275 --> 01:45:44,565 potential repurpose 2168 01:45:45,275 --> 01:45:48,755 because I'm going to have 2169 01:45:49,895 --> 01:45:54,035 likely Brett come in and talk to you about that. 2170 01:45:54,155 --> 01:45:56,595 I, 'cause I did mention that a couple weeks ago when you 2171 01:45:57,095 --> 01:46:01,075 had, and I already had my own questions about that, how 2172 01:46:01,075 --> 01:46:03,395 that was actually gonna, I would like him to come in 2173 01:46:03,395 --> 01:46:05,235 and explain it to the select board. 2174 01:46:06,015 --> 01:46:08,035 So you're gonna see him likely 2175 01:46:08,055 --> 01:46:12,395 before he gets done for the year, be good to meet him. 2176 01:46:12,515 --> 01:46:13,555 'cause I don't think you met. Yeah, we have 2177 01:46:13,555 --> 01:46:14,715 not, I don't think you've met Brett. 2178 01:46:15,345 --> 01:46:17,875 Yeah. So anyway, you'll hear more about that. 2179 01:46:18,495 --> 01:46:20,355 The, the the conversion part of it. 2180 01:46:20,545 --> 01:46:22,995 Yeah. I just wanted to point out that the, the roof, I, 2181 01:46:23,155 --> 01:46:26,655 I have not physically seen that, that that estimate 2182 01:46:26,755 --> 01:46:29,295 or the one for the, the pointing of the, of the, 2183 01:46:29,295 --> 01:46:30,815 there's some cracks in the, 2184 01:46:31,875 --> 01:46:33,615 in the joints in the, in the granite. 2185 01:46:37,695 --> 01:46:40,435 But that was, it was pointed out 'cause I questioned it. 2186 01:46:40,515 --> 01:46:41,715 I said it looks fine to me. 2187 01:46:41,815 --> 01:46:43,915 And, and that's when it was pointed out to me 2188 01:46:43,915 --> 01:46:46,355 that a professional slate company came and looked at it 2189 01:46:46,355 --> 01:46:47,475 and said it is delaminating. 2190 01:46:51,975 --> 01:46:53,555 That's all I have. 2191 01:46:54,215 --> 01:46:57,275 So we are going to go into executive session. 2192 01:46:57,595 --> 01:46:59,435 I would ask that we invite 2193 01:47:00,585 --> 01:47:02,705 Director Danforth join us. 2194 01:47:03,295 --> 01:47:04,785 Okay. Under this. Yep. 2195 01:47:05,685 --> 01:47:07,105 So I move to find 2196 01:47:07,105 --> 01:47:09,945 that premature general public knowledge would clearly put 2197 01:47:09,965 --> 01:47:12,185 the select board at a substantial disadvantage. 2198 01:47:13,715 --> 01:47:17,195 Second that I also move 2199 01:47:17,195 --> 01:47:19,675 that we, we vote first. Sorry. Yeah. 2200 01:47:20,235 --> 01:47:23,115 A motion to second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. 2201 01:47:23,995 --> 01:47:26,595 I move to go into executive session for contracts 2202 01:47:26,595 --> 01:47:28,635 and labor agreements with no action expected. 2203 01:47:28,775 --> 01:47:31,595 And invite director Danforth to join us. 2204 01:47:32,825 --> 01:47:37,435 Second. Right. Motion to second. All those in favor? 2205 01:47:38,255 --> 01:47:41,615 Aye. Aye. There we have it. We are in executive session. 2206 01:47:41,685 --> 01:47:46,255 Have a good evening Eric. See you in two weeks folks. 2207 01:47:47,425 --> 01:47:48,575 First invitation.