[21:00] No such request. The agenda is approved
as written. Various correspondents. Does
[21:04] any commissioner have correspondence
they'd like to share with the board?
[21:10] I have several. It's been a good week.
[snorts] For additional correspondence.
[21:15] Uh, first of all, I think most of you
received a letter from Mr. Jacobs. I
[21:19] don't know if everybody on the board got
it, but um just with some information.
[21:24] He wants us to consider a a different
property for a jail location. Listed
[21:29] some good reasonings in there. We have
looked at that property in the past. Um
[21:34] when Granger gets more boots on the
grounds up here, I think we'll probably
[21:38] have them look at it again. We've had
the same response from a couple
[21:42] different companies who have looked at
it as far as the size not being big
[21:45] enough especially for ancillary
buildings and other space but um we're
[21:51] not close-minded about anything. So we
will look at that. I think Commissioner
[21:56] Hatfield and I um had an email that was
addressed to us about body cams, the
[22:03] usage, the concerns that we were paying
a subscription that's not being used
[22:07] used for. also does not feel that the
timing is correct for a multi-million
[22:13] dollar jail upgrade um with the safety
and also had some comments his concerns
[22:19] about the sheriff and the taxpayers at
this point and where the where the focus
[22:24] was on that. Um, I got another one from
Christine Murray, um, who is also in
[22:30] Barry Township, um, and also was
concerned about money being spent on the
[22:36] design of the jail and concerned about
the political performance. And the last
[22:41] one was about someone who had concerns
about the roads and had sent me some
[22:44] photos and I will forward those on to
the road commission as well. Anybody
[22:49] else have anything that they
>> I just saw this morning that I saw one
[22:53] from one of my constituents about the
jail expressing concern about us going
[22:57] forward right now.
>> Okay. Anything else?
[23:02] Okay.
[23:05] Consent agenda.
[23:09] Commissioner Basset, would you like to
read the consent agenda for us?
[23:12] » Can do that. Um I make a motion to
approve the August 23rd vote.
[23:19] office commissioners meeting minutes
>> support
[23:23] » motion by Basset support by Getty for
all items listed on the consent agenda.
[23:27] Discussion is not allowed in a roll call
vote is required. All those in favor
[23:30] vote I and oppose vote nay. Madame clerk
would you call the role.
[23:34] » Basset
>> I.
[23:35] » Colton
>> I.
[23:36] » Can Bell
>> I.
[23:37] » Eddie
>> I.
[23:38] » Smeelker
>> I.
[23:39] » Tunison
>> I.
[23:40] » Hatfield
>> I.
[23:40] » And Jackson
>> I. The consent agenda is approved. We
[23:44] have [clears throat] no presentations
this morning. No public hearings this
[23:47] morning. Items for consideration. The
chair would entertain a motion for
[23:51] approval of prepaid invoices in the
amount of 5 million2 $24,3569.
[23:58] » So moved.
>> Support.
[24:00] » Motion by Hatfield. Support by Camp Bell
for approval of prepaid invoices in the
[24:04] amount of $5,24,35.69.
[24:08] Is there discussion?
Hearing none. Madam clerk, would you
[24:11] call the role?
>> Colton.
[24:13] » I.
>> Canell.
[24:14] » I.
>> Getty.
[24:15] » I.
>> Smeler.
[24:16] » I. Tunis
>> I
[24:17] » Basset
>> I
[24:18] » Hatfield
>> I
[24:19] » and Jackson
>> I the motion is approved the chair would
[24:22] entertain a motion for approval of
claims in the amount of $64,9369
[24:28] » so moved
>> support
[24:32] » motion by Smelker support by Tunis for
approval of claims the amount of
[24:36] $64,9369
cents is there discussion
[24:41] » madam clerk would you call the role
>> I
[24:45] » Getty I
>> Smaler.
[24:46] » Hi,
>> Tunis.
[24:48] » Hi,
>> Basset.
[24:49] » I
>> Colton.
[24:49] » Hi,
>> Pat.
[24:50] » Hi,
>> and Jackson.
[24:52] » I The motion is approved. Approval of
commissioner reimbursement mileage in
[24:56] the amount of $25,5.72.
[25:01] » So moved.
>> Support.
[25:03] » Motion by Getty, support by Hatfield for
approval of commissioner reimbursement
[25:07] mileage in the amount of $255.72.
Discussion.
[25:12] » Madame Clerk, would you call the role?
>> Getty. I
[25:15] » Smoker.
>> Hi
[25:16] » Tunis.
>> Hi
[25:17] » Basset.
>> Hi
[25:18] » Colton.
>> Hi
[25:19] » Campbell.
>> I
[25:20] » Hatfield.
>> I
[25:21] » Jackson.
>> I The motion is approved.
[25:24] » Next up, Matt Ward.
>> No, Matt was here somewhere.
[25:29] » Hiding in the back, lurking in the
shadow.
[25:31] » There you go. [laughter]
>> There you go.
[25:35] » Morning, commissioners. I'm here today
to talk about a request for a purchase
[25:40] of a multiffactor authentication
subscription. So, in our budget last
[25:45] year, we made a request for roughly
$36,000
[25:49] uh for the software tool to implement
multiffactor authentication across
[25:53] county systems. And uh turns out that
we're going to be able to accomplish
[25:57] that with a little bit less expenditure
than we had originally thought. We can
[26:01] use a lower tier of the service and
still provide the security that we need
[26:05] to meet all the requirements that we
need to. Um but it's not going to cost
[26:09] quite as much. So, we're going to come
in at fixed costs of about $19,635
[26:15] and a variable cost uh which is
dependent upon
[26:19] [sighs] some of our users won't have
access to mobile devices or things like
[26:23] that to get the codes on. So, we'll have
to buy some hard tokens for them for
[26:28] that. We're estimating that between
$1,500 and $2,500. Uh so that comes in
[26:33] about maximum of about $23,000 as
opposed to the $36,000 that we requested
[26:39] in our budget. And the piece that Eric
asked me to speak about a little bit
[26:43] today is also the MMRA grant. Uh Eric
indicated to me just before the meeting
[26:48] that that grant should cover half of up
to $30,000. Uh we will apply for that
[26:53] and hopefully get that and if that's the
case, we would apply that to our $19,000
[26:59] cost and and cover some of the costs
there as well. But I'm happy to answer
[27:02] any questions about the underlying
technology that you might have. Um, as
[27:07] far as the grant goes, I we can ask Eric
if we have more questions on details for
[27:11] the grant. Um, get some more information
for you there if we need.
[27:15] » Can you give the rest for a while?
>> Yeah. So, multiffactor authentication is
[27:19] just another way of helping us secure
accounts. Um, people are bad at choosing
[27:24] passwords, frankly. Uh, all of us have
too many passwords to remember. So we
[27:28] generally try to pick things that we can
recall and uh frankly we're not all as
[27:33] unique as we'd like to believe. So we
oftentimes choose things that people
[27:37] have already chosen somewhere else and
it's easier to build a list of just
[27:42] stolen passwords that people are going
to attempt to try. Multiffactor
[27:45] authentication is one tool we can use to
try to make it more challenging for
[27:49] someone. It's not just a password that
you need from somebody, but you'd also
[27:52] need to get something that generates a
token and steal that as well. So, it
[27:56] makes it a little bit like having two
different keys on two different key
[27:59] rings for your home. One that you have
and one that your wife has. You both
[28:03] can't get in the house unless you're
both there to do it at the same time.
[28:05] So, it is a little in the same way it's
a little less convenient than just one
[28:09] key, but it also makes it harder for
anybody else to get in the door as well.
[28:13] So,
>> okay. Training required on this or is it
[28:16] going to be something that we're all
pretty much used to using at this point?
[28:19] I think unfortunately we're all pretty
much used to using it uh in other areas
[28:23] of of our lives, but we'd be happy to go
through it with any of our users that uh
[28:27] have a challenge facing them to get it
done. That's kind of what we do. Um but
[28:31] yeah, and it's also a requirement for us
from many more of our security audits or
[28:36] other things like lean audits and um you
know, the court's offices have uh MDHHS
[28:43] audits that they're required to go
through. They want to see these kind of
[28:46] features inact activated to go ahead and
make it more challenging for accounts to
[28:50] be compromised.
>> Is [snorts] that 1920,000 is that a
[28:55] one-time cost then?
>> I wish that it was, but no, it's a
[28:58] subscriptionbased model. There's nobody
that does it as a one-time cost uh for
[29:02] this kind of service. Um it's just it's
a subscription that is sort of mandated
[29:08] for us to have that level of security.
So whether we're doing it on the
[29:11] firewalls and paying a firewall vendor,
we're doing it with Duo at a operating
[29:15] system level, um almost everybody who
offers that kind of functionality offers
[29:20] it as software as a service type model.
>> Okay. Is this a three-year contract,
[29:24] fiveyear contract?
>> A single year. So we are in a boat where
[29:27] if something becomes dramatically
cheaper somewhere else, I would be love
[29:31] I would love to see that happen. I'm not
sure that it's going to, but if it does
[29:34] become available to us to use a less
costly solution even in a year, we can
[29:38] go ahead and reexamine that at the time.
[clears throat]
[29:40] » Everything costs money. Everything's
going to subscriptionbased.
[29:43] » Unfortunately, we are seeing it across
the board. I was talking to Commissioner
[29:46] Smoker earlier and our computer costs
from May of this year to October went up
[29:51] 35%. Just for a regular desktop computer
that sits on someone's desk for the
[29:55] exact same box. Um, memory costs right
now are incredibly high. Storage costs
[30:01] are incredibly high. Um, and all of
these software subscription tools
[30:06] utilize those things in their data
centers. So, they're going to pay those
[30:08] costs and they're kind enough to share
them with us.
[30:12] » Plus, they like profit, unfortunately.
So,
[30:15] » sure. Questions from commissioners.
>> Commissioner Bassid.
[30:20] » Thank you. Uh, when will this be
implemented?
[30:22] » So, the goal for us is to implement it
on a small test number of users. So we
[30:26] probably get it implemented I would
guess within the next 30 days and then
[30:30] everybody else shortly thereafter if
we're going to discover a problem we
[30:34] like to you know perform the experiments
on oursel as opposed to everybody else
[30:38] first. So uh I don't know that we're
going to have all that much trouble with
[30:42] it. It is. I hate to say things like
that out loud because that's the fastest
[30:46] way I know of to invite trouble, but um
it's it's a feature that we've utilized
[30:51] for our Microsoft Office users for a
while and we're just looking to
[30:56] implement it at an operating system
level to add some more security. So,
[31:00] » thank you.
>> Okay, there are no further questions.
[31:05] The first agenda item is a request for a
submission of the grant application MMR
[31:10] to assist in the purchase of the
multiffactor authentication software and
[31:14] authorize the county administrator to
sign on behalf of the county.
[31:18] » So move
>> support
[31:20] » motion by Colton support by Basset to a
for authorize the submission of a grant
[31:25] application MMR to assist in the
purchase of multiffactor authentication
[31:28] software and authorize a county
administrator to sign on behalf of the
[31:31] county.
Further questions or discussion?
[31:36] » Madame clerk, would you call the role?
>> Smaller.
[31:39] » I.
>> Tunis.
[31:40] » I.
>> Basset.
[31:41] » I.
>> Colton.
[31:42] » Hi.
>> Campell.
[31:43] » I. [clears throat]
>> Daddy.
[31:44] » I.
>> Catfield.
[31:45] » Hi.
>> And Jackson.
[31:46] » I. The motion is approved. Second part
of that is the chair would entertain a
[31:52] motion for approval of the attached
quote from CDW-G
[31:56] for $19,635.
U my deal pricing for yearly Cisco Duo
[32:02] advantage multiffactor authentication
licensing for 300 users plus additional
[32:06] cost of provising providing physical
tokens to a portion of our user base. So
[32:12] move support [clears throat]
>> motion by Tunis, support by Hatfield for
[32:16] approval of the attached quote from
CDW-G for $19,635
[32:20] for yearly Cisco Duo Advantage
multifactor authentication licensing for
[32:25] 300 users plus additional cost for
providing physical tokens to a portion
[32:29] of our user base. Further questions or
discussion?
[32:33] [clears throat]
>> Madame clerk, would you call the role?
[32:35] » Nasset I.
>> Colton.
[32:37] » Campbell.
>> I.
[32:39] » Daddy,
>> I.
[32:40] » Smoker. I
>> Tunison.
[32:41] » Hi,
>> Gatfield.
[32:42] » Hi,
>> and Jackson.
[32:43] » I The motion is approved.
>> Thank you, Matt.
[32:46] » You're welcome.
[32:54] » Okay.
Contract with Granger Construction.
[32:57] Eric, did you want to lead on this?
>> Yep.
[33:15] Good morning, Mr. Chair, commissioners.
Uh, in your packet is a contract and
[33:22] addendum
with Granger Construction for the
[33:25] purpose of
um construction manager services for the
[33:30] construction of a law enforcement
facility for Barry County.
[33:33] This obviously as you all have sat
through some long meetings in the past
[33:37] month um came about as a result of the
interview process uh working with Mark
[33:43] Nettleton our county attorney for these
type of issues. Um the contract that was
[33:48] proposed by Granger was renewed. Mr.
Nettleton also developed an addendum
[33:51] that tackled certain issues not covered
by the contract which he says is very
[33:56] typical in these situations. Um [snorts]
both parties uh Mr. Tim, myself and
[34:02] Granger have uh signed off on the
contract. So now it's here for your
[34:06] final approval. Uh what you're being
asked today is this contract is two full
[34:12] um it handles pre-construction services,
but then there's also a um maximum
[34:19] um there's a there's a document in there
for the maximum price amount when we get
[34:23] to the end of the pro like the end of
the pre-construction services. So, it
[34:26] sets in place the whole construction
manager process. Uh, what you're what
[34:33] you're on the hook for if you approve it
today is going through the
[34:37] pre-construction phase, which for the
Granger U proposal is $96,259.
[34:44] That deals pre-construction, the
funding, and final that gets right up to
[34:48] uh deciding whether to go for millage or
not.
[34:53] Um, so and that's and that would be a
discussion down the line for where we
[34:58] go. So this would get us going. This
would help develop the plan as I've in
[35:03] my two years now here I've heard last
time outside of the people as Mr.
[35:08] Osborne quoted that just don't like
taxes and we're going to vote against
[35:11] everything. Um, the issues have been
shared with me is that we didn't have a
[35:16] solid plan. We didn't have a solid
location. Uh, we didn't have a solid
[35:19] design and cost. So my commitment at the
start of this is we will have all those
[35:24] three issues tackled before we move
forward on this. This will get us to
[35:27] that point where you will have those
items in place and you will be able to
[35:30] make a decision about whether you want
to move forward and when you want to
[35:34] move forward at that time. Our best
estimate at this point is that we would
[35:38] finish um pre-construction services in
the first quarter of next year. If we
[35:43] get if you approve this today, they'll
get started right away.
[35:47] Um and the and the architect is ready to
roll too. So, everyone's just waiting on
[35:51] this final approval to start moving
forward, working with uh representative
[35:55] the sheriff's office, repres working
with administration and the members of
[36:00] your small law enforcement group from
the board of commissioners um is the
[36:05] intended process. So, I'm happy to
answer any questions you have from that
[36:09] point.
>> Questions from commissioners?
[36:12] » Mr. Chair,
>> Commissioner Colton, C
[36:15] » could you repeat that number for
preconstruction services?
[36:18] Pre-construction total $96,259.
>> Okay. So, does that get us
[36:27] through a millillage?
>> That would get us Yes.
[36:33] » It would get us through the millillage.
>> Yes.
[36:35] » So, if we had a millage and it failed,
>> $96,250
[36:40] $259 is your exposure.
>> Would end right there. And then what
[36:43] would you anticipate
if we win a millillage or some other
[36:48] form of funding? What would the total
cost if we ever if we go through the
[36:52] whole process of building a jail?
>> The construction manager quote was I
[36:57] believe 2.3 million total. Um and that
was their quote. You'd have the
[37:03] architect side of that as well. So when
we when we were laying it out and this
[37:07] is where some of the confusion was our
budget was 30 to 35 million. 30 million
[37:11] construction, 5 million soft soft costs.
So your construction manager, your
[37:16] architect, your other in ancillary
costs,
[37:20] bond coun, bond council, uh cost to
issue bonds, all those type of things.
[37:25] » So is Aban Marsh considered the
architect or
[37:28] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[37:30] » So that that would be part of that their
cost. There would be a separate contract
[37:33] with them at that point. Right now we
have a contract with them to get through
[37:38] this pre-construction phase. I know I
worked with uh buildings uh villages at
[37:43] Maple Valley schools and and architect
costs were about 5%.
[37:48] The total cost is that in a ballpark?
>> It varies but yeah that could be a rough
[37:52] cost at this point.
>> Okay. [snorts] Thank you.
[37:56] » Commissioner Campbell, did you have a
question?
[37:58] » I did not.
>> Okay.
[38:01] » Additional questions from commissioners.
We've gone through a lot of the details
[38:06] on this already. So, it seems like we've
spent a lot of time on this and [snorts]
[38:11] um after a couple long meetings, I think
Granger
[38:15] » certainly came prepared was a good
choice for it. Um, and I think it's a
[38:20] good investment that because of what
we're asking them to do, which is take a
[38:25] look at all options, but certainly if we
can utilize some of the existing square
[38:30] footage in the existing jail
>> that we don't know if that's four, five,
[38:35] 6,000 square ft, but if it turns out
being 5,000 square ft, that's $5 million
[38:40] of estimated savings that you're putting
back in the pocket of the taxpayers. So
[38:45] that's what we're trying to do is look
at all options on how to make this a
[38:50] solid project law enforcement center
that'll create safer communities that'll
[38:56] address mental health that'll do a
number of things that we can't do right
[38:59] now including the safety of the people
that work in the jail um and get us out
[39:04] of a facility that's probably the oldest
and one of the most rundown facilities
[39:09] in the state at this point. So it's one
of the older things. It's one of the
[39:13] biggest things that we have not been
able to address or haven't been
[39:16] addressed yet that we're willing to take
this on. So, but this is a good starting
[39:21] point for a you know for 96,000 you're
going to get a real good feel for what
[39:27] the challenges are, what the
opportunities are and what the real
[39:30] costs are on it and we can make a
decision at some point in the first
[39:32] quarter where we want to go forward with
this and how we're going to go forward
[39:35] with it. So,
>> uh to me that's key uh Mr. Chair is you
[39:39] need to start here. you need to get to a
point where you know what you're talking
[39:41] about with the final cost design is um
you have the final decision to make next
[39:47] year
>> if and you want to move forward with the
[39:50] millillage in 27 if there's another way
of doing it um if you want to move to 28
[39:55] those are your decisions that that point
as the administrator for the county my
[40:01] recommendation is you need to move ahead
because the building's not getting
[40:04] better there needs to be and these
issues need to be addressed all The
[40:09] other factors I get, I understand. But
from our standpoint is we need we can't
[40:14] leave the liabilities out there for the
county. We need to address this and move
[40:17] forward. How we make the final decision
on moving forward,
[40:22] that can be a different approach, two
different ways. And now I think all that
[40:26] will come through the pre-construction
services.
[40:28] » Yeah. And and I appreciate Mr. Osborne's
comments and the other comments we've
[40:32] got from people. Um, and I agree the
economy is not in a great place right
[40:36] now with f with food, fuel there.
There's a few other things that are
[40:41] obviously weighing on our constituents
and our taxpayers. We don't know where
[40:45] it's going to be in 6 months or a year,
but we're certainly going to be
[40:48] cognizant of that moving forward. If the
economy is in a worse spot, then we may
[40:52] very well decide to hold off on this and
look at this in 28 versus 27. So, uh, we
[40:58] need to keep taxpayers at the forefront
of our decision-m and we will as we go
[41:02] through this. So, it's not going to be a
rush decision. It's been a a very slow,
[41:06] thoughtful process. I'm glad that we
engaged the sheriff with this. He had
[41:09] some good ideas on what to do with this
as far as a facility. So, we need to
[41:13] just kind of mold some of those ideas
together with the help of them and and
[41:17] uh as we get the process rolling,
hopefully we can um have a part with I
[41:22] don't know if it'll be monthly or weekly
sitdowns with Granger and how this is
[41:26] going because it's going to need to be
tweaked
[41:29] » certainly as we go through it. So
>> that that aspect of the process will be
[41:32] worked out
>> uh after we get I think the first part
[41:35] of the phase will have a kickoff but
then it'll be a lot of granger working
[41:38] with a marsh
>> to get things moved forward. It may be
[41:42] bi-weekly it may be I think it'll get
more frequent middle of the project
[41:48] » as we have to make start making
decisions.
[41:51] » Well and the challenge of of
[clears throat]
[41:54] building a jail or a jail pod while you
have prisoners in the jail. I mean,
[42:00] there's a few things that we have to we
have to really focus on and figure out
[42:04] how to make that work. So,
>> and my last comment, then I will step
[42:07] back. I want to be clear, this isn't
just a jail. This is a law enforcement
[42:10] facility. This is if you've been in the
facility, the sheriff's department
[42:14] offices are inadequate. Uh, I mean, to
me, um, for their administration, for
[42:21] the officers, the sergeants, um, the
CEOs, correction officers, I mean, it's
[42:27] inadequate. It's not safe. we need to do
something to address these issues for
[42:30] operationally. Um so whether it's
whatever version it is, it's just
[42:35] something that needs to be addressed um
sooner than later.
[42:40] [clears throat]
>> Yes, I agree, Mr. Chair.
[42:42] » Commissioner Tennyson.
>> Um [clears throat] you know, through
[42:45] this whole process, I mean, when they
started out at 4852 million, we're like
[42:51] there's no way this we can even begin to
take that to taxpayers, right? We've
[42:56] worked really hard to try to figure out
how to get this down to where we think
[43:02] it's a manageable number, which $30
million from from 52,
[43:07] that's a big big drop, right? And uh as
far as timing, I understand, Larry,
[43:12] exactly what you're saying, timing. But
when is time? What what is a good time?
[43:18] Okay, you keep kicking this can down the
road, it will never be a possibility.
[43:23] Okay. Um because five years from now,
three years from now, you won't be
[43:29] talking $30 million. You're gonna be
talking back to the $50 million. Okay?
[43:34] So, this has been a problem for 20
years.
[43:39] Okay? We as a board are putting all of
our efforts into trying to figure out
[43:44] how to do this and make this better, not
only for the employees down there, but
[43:52] this is is something that's it's falling
apart as we speak, okay? And then
[43:58] someday when the state steps in and says
you can no longer house them here, then
[44:03] what are we going to do? we're gonna be
forced
[44:07] to do something
this way. We have a plan.
[44:11] Let's try to get everybody on board with
this and say, "Okay, include everybody
[44:16] and say, "Hey, how can we get this
done?" Okay, but I understand your your
[44:21] concerns.
I know how people are hurting right now,
[44:25] okay? I got a lot of employees that
barely get by, okay? And they make a
[44:29] decent wage, but they still struggle.
just talked to one of them yesterday
[44:33] about it. So, I understand and we all
feel it, too. We all have lives. We all
[44:40] pay bills. We see our insurance rates
going through the roof. We see our daily
[44:45] costs going through the roof.
But there's not going to be a better
[44:50] time to try to get this done than right
now. Okay? So, that's all I got to say
[44:55] about it.
>> There's a lot more coming. There's a lot
[44:58] more opportunity. the the plan is not by
far is not finalized.
[45:02] » Yeah. When we started doing the
commission on aging building, we're
[45:05] talking like 72 half million 7.5
million. And we by going through that
[45:09] bidding process and getting the
contractors all in a room, we saved a
[45:16] lot of money when that process was done.
And we'll do the same thing through this
[45:21] process.
>> So,
[45:24] » absolutely, Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes. Now, I have something.
[45:27] » Now, it came it came back. [laughter]
Okay.
[45:31] » Light bulb went off.
>> Uh yeah, the whole issue here, all you
[45:36] got to do is walk walk through our jail
and look at the uh the the safety issues
[45:42] for our deputies that are there, the uh
immense amount of money that we're
[45:48] paying constantly to try to keep that
thing up and and we still have many
[45:53] violations. We we we can't work fast
enough to correct the violations over
[45:57] there.
So for us to sit here and do nothing,
[46:01] it's just we're just not doing our job.
We have to do something. We have to
[46:06] prepare something. And yes, it ends up
being a voter decision, but I'm not
[46:11] doing my job if I don't try to do
something about what's going on in our
[46:16] law enforcement facility over there.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]
[46:20] » Mr. Chair,
>> Mr. Colton,
[46:23] » is location still a discussion? Um, you
brought up Fred Jacobs letter.
[46:31] » We feel the best location at this point
if we're going to use some of the
[46:34] existing space at the current jail to
save taxpayer dollars that that's the
[46:38] best location. But until we get the
final program or we get back with them,
[46:43] if they come back and say you can build
a new jail and it'd be better to not use
[46:49] that space, then that may open the door
to look at other locations as well. But
[46:54] at this point, that's kind of what we're
thinking. But we're not opposed to
[46:58] looking at anything. There's no closed
doors at this point. So, [snorts]
[47:05] » Commissioner Getty.
>> So, I agree with everything that's been
[47:10] said and I think it's important to keep
in mind that this is bigger than one
[47:14] person or people's opinion about one
person. This is about public safety and
[47:20] um and really seizing the moment. So, I
encourage everybody um to frame it that
[47:27] way, you know, to keeping our
corrections officers safe, to providing
[47:32] um a safe working environment for all of
our officers that are out there on the
[47:37] front lines.
Um it it's it's really not a referendum
[47:43] on one person. It's about public safety.
[47:49] » Okay. There are no additional comments
or concerns.
[47:53] The chair would entertain a motion for
approval approval of the proposed
[47:57] contracts and addendum with Granger
Construction to form and authorize the
[48:01] county board chair to sign on behalf of
the county.
[48:04] » So moved.
>> Support.
[48:08] » Motion by Hatfield support by Tunis for
approval of the proposed contracts and
[48:11] addendum with Granger Construction to
form an authorized county board chair to
[48:15] sign on behalf of the county. Additional
comments or discussion.
[48:19] Madame clerk, would you call the role?
>> Colton
[48:22] » I.
>> Campbo.
[48:24] » I.
>> Daddy.
[48:25] » I.
>> Smilker.
[48:26] » I.
>> Tunison.
[48:26] » Hi.
>> Basset.
[48:27] » I.
>> Hatfield.
[48:28] » Hi.
>> And Jackson.
[48:30] » I.
>> The motion is approved.
[48:34] Thank you all. We'll proceed quickly.
>> All right. Budget introduction. [sighs]
[48:40] All right. Um, in front of you or in
your packet is a proposed budget for
[48:46] 2027
uh of approximately [snorts]
[48:49] 23.789 million from expenditures.
Um, with revenues of 23.8 million for a
[48:58] surplus proposed surplus of 38,000. Um,
that's a little misnomer because there's
[49:03] also $300,000 contingency in here. So,
there's really a surplus of $338,000.
[49:08] Um,
I know I threw some of you off when
[49:12] looking at the document this year and I
wanted to walk through a little bit on
[49:15] there. So, if you look at So, if you
look open the the budget document, the
[49:19] first thing you run into is the
resolution. Pretty much standard form we
[49:22] use every year. Covers all the issues
that we need to address and it um
[49:29] before your next meeting you'll have my
transmitt letter which will go into more
[49:32] detail on certain issues. But what I
want to start with is the revenue
[49:37] expenditure summary for the general
fund. The chart that looks like that.
[49:44] So
27 requested. Let's start with that uh
[49:50] column. That is the requests as we
received them from the departments. I
[49:53] didn't touch it. I wanted you to see
these are all the requests that we got
[49:57] on the air. It could be new positions.
It could be line items um etc. Um so in
[50:04] the requests um if we took the request
versus and that includes new positions
[50:09] as well. Um as you see most of that is
the rationale for the deficit. There
[50:15] would have been a deficit of $428,000 if
I brought it to you and said here's my
[50:18] recommended budget. Obviously I wouldn't
bring you my recommended budget that
[50:21] way. I wouldn't be here very long if I
did.
[50:23] » Um unless there was a very specific
reason. Um there are [laughter] a number
[50:29] of position requests that I will cover
when we get deeper into the budget uh
[50:33] discussion.
The next column being the 2027
[50:37] recommended is what you have to consider
um today and this is introduction. So
[50:43] you're really not taking any action on
this today. This is introduction review
[50:46] to lead to questions. Um I guess you
should have started with that reminder
[50:51] of the process. Uh your next meeting
will be your budget appeals and
[50:54] finalizing of the budget.
for an October 27th public hearing.
[51:00] So, um we will [clears throat] know next
week how many appeals we have, if any.
[51:06] Um
I could guess a couple um just by
[51:10] knowing the decisions I made or
recommendations I made, but um there
[51:15] shouldn't be a ton, but once again,
we'll probably be surprised to have more
[51:18] than a couple. [laughter] Mhm.
>> Um and then if you look at 28 and 29
[51:24] again, we carried those requests over.
Um so do we really have a million dollar
[51:29] deficit next year? No, we don't. But
that's where I'm starting from. So those
[51:33] are projected wages, projected
retirement
[51:37] um requests that we received from
certain departments, certain agencies,
[51:42] uh carried over to 28 29. So if you
would have start seen where we started
[51:46] last year, we we were in the negative on
those as well. So, don't get too excited
[51:51] about 28 29 right now. Those are future
projections. And I could have spent a
[51:56] lot of time going through and knocking
things down. And I can if that's what
[51:59] you would prefer, but from my rationale,
I wanted to show you where we're
[52:02] starting from [snorts]
um in future budgets cuz you're not
[52:06] really held to those. The only thing
that you're held to is what you approve
[52:09] for 2027 at this point.
So, I feel comfortable with the budget
[52:14] we've proposed. So, I think it's it's
balanced with and then some with the
[52:17] $338,000 surplus. Um,
so I think that's a good time to shift
[52:23] into some of the revenue discussion.
Ignore the chart on the next page.
[52:30] If you get into some of the you get more
detail than the line items on revenues.
[52:34] Um, just you can see the line share
where we pull our money in. Really, the
[52:40] first line is what you need to look at.
17.2 2 million of our 23.8 million comes
[52:47] from General Mills property taxes.
So that is what that is how we provide
[52:53] our services to the residents of Barry
County and the lo local governments in
[52:57] Barry County. Um if you were in a city
Hastings, you look at their budget, it's
[53:03] a lot more diverse. They have taxes.
They have they have a lot more in
[53:06] revenue sharing relative to what they
do. They have fees for services, you um
[53:11] utilities, those things are a lot
different than what we do. So, we carry
[53:15] a lot of our uh revenue from just
general fund taxes. That being said, we
[53:20] do get about a million and a half from
the state in revenue sharing. Um the key
[53:25] is when you get a bulletin from MAC that
says, hey, the legislature is looking at
[53:30] revenue sharing.
Cities catch a cold when revenue sharing
[53:35] gets cut. When revenue sharing gets cut
for us, they can cut it all tomorrow.
[53:38] And they have in the past. So if you see
that, you need to reach out to your
[53:42] legislators and say, "Hey, look, leave
us alone." I mean, we get hit a lot as
[53:46] it is, but that million and a half would
be a big hole in our budget cuz they
[53:50] could pull that tomorrow if they wanted
to. It's all alleg statutoily set.
[53:55] Um there are other issues in here,
costs, court costs are in charges for
[53:59] services. Um we have a variety of things
that we get um from the state you know
[54:06] sharing probate judge part of district
court salaries
[54:10] other court related costs.
I know one of the questions one of the
[54:15] commissioners had was EMP grant
center federal states the first line
[54:20] that's the emergency management planning
grant that gets has been just killed for
[54:26] the last three or four years. I think
when I I think the first year I was
[54:29] here, I think we might have been closer
to 40 and then last year we were this
[54:33] current year we're at 17 and the next
year we're projected to be at nine. So
[54:38] this it's that's money from the feds.
The feds just are starting to really cut
[54:41] that back. Um so that's one thing if you
talk to Representative Molinar or any of
[54:46] our senators
might put a bug on their ear. That's so
[54:50] that's we're getting $9,000 projected
for supporting Patrick and everything
[54:54] he's doing. Um, that's one of the
reasons that I need to I didn't propose
[54:58] one of his positions that he requested.
We need to have a long talk on how we do
[55:02] that, but emergency management is very
important for what we do at the county.
[55:07] Um, we need to find a way to continue to
support that because we're not getting
[55:11] help from others. Um,
the HMP grants are new this year. You
[55:16] just approved that, the $1,500. That's a
grant we'll get every year. That's a
[55:20] hazardous materials program, the
database that you approved of the
[55:24] earlier this year.
Um,
[55:29] trying to think what else highlights in
there. Those are the big ones for the
[55:32] revenue. There's a ton of charges for
services, but a lot of them are small.
[55:37] » You get real estate, the register of
deeds has real estate transfer tax and
[55:40] the um clerk has the vital records.
There are two big numbers. Recording
[55:46] fees for the register of deeds. Those
are your really big numbers there. Um,
[55:50] copies,
record copy fees,
[55:55] fines and forge for obviously look if
you look at those number really small
[55:59] right in interest. We've actually made a
good amount of interest the past few
[56:03] years [snorts]
compared to say six years ago when
[56:07] interest rates were down to nothing. So
we're we're making a little bit of money
[56:11] there, but we're also paying a little
more than we used to. Um, couple of
[56:15] areas I wanted to talk about. Revenue,
uh, miscellaneous revenue. That really
[56:19] is what it is. There's a lot of things
that go into that. Um, I tend to be a
[56:23] little more conservative with that
number. So, I dropped it 100,000 from
[56:26] where we were, uh, in the current year.
Uh, and then transfers. There's a number
[56:31] of transfers that come in. Some of these
are done if we don't need them. So,
[56:36] animal shelter donation fund uh, that
provides medical and food care for
[56:41] animals. Um we have over a million
dollars in that fund right now. So we've
[56:45] been very generous supporters of the
animal shelter. Um if we don't spend it,
[56:51] we don't transfer the whole amount. Um
defense, that's uh just a standard
[56:57] amount. Building rehab, if we don't
spend the money on those specific things
[57:02] proposed in the budget for those items,
we won't spend it. Uh building
[57:06] inspection, if you recall, this is new
this year. This also a new expenditure
[57:10] department. you approved a new contract
with PCI. That contract has 10% of those
[57:15] revenues coming back to the county to
support our overhead um for the
[57:20] treasures office. A lot of the work they
do, the planning, zoning or community
[57:23] development department. Um that's
another get into shortly and then admin.
[57:28] So there are items in there
um that we'll get some we'll get some of
[57:33] that revenue u to support those
operations this year. Diverted felons is
[57:37] another one that helps to pay for court
security. If we don't if we don't need
[57:42] the 216,000, we won't transfer it. It's
been in the budget the last three years.
[57:46] We haven't transferred it. So that money
continues to grow in the diverted felon
[57:49] funds.
Um and the other ones from the vehicle
[57:54] fund, it's for maintenance. If we don't
spend it again, we won't transfer it.
[57:58] And the umbrella fund.
Looking back at the general
[58:01] expenditures, [clears throat]
um you get a little bit more. You don't
[58:05] get the line items here because this
document would be huge if you did. Um
[58:10] you get the general areas that we cover
um by function.
[58:16] Again, ignore the cart the chart please.
Mandated services run through all of
[58:21] those areas that we are mandated by law
to provide.
[58:26] Um obviously jail sheriff's department
you see are
[58:30] 7.5 million of the 20 you know some
million dollar general fund budget we
[58:35] have it's a big number courts are
another big number in there
[58:41] uh I intend to when you see the final
document have a breakdown by functional
[58:45] area of where we spend our dollars to
help support the county
[58:50] non-mandated service level required this
format hasn't changed at all so you're
[58:54] seeing the same format you've seen in
has passed. Uh all these are items that
[58:59] we are not mandated to do but we do
expect certain um efforts from them.
[59:06] Legal counsel kind of have to have an
attorney unfortunately in these days. Um
[59:10] admin
uh animal shelter is something we have
[59:14] chosen to do as a county. Animal control
again not mandated but we've chosen to
[59:18] do it so we need to support it. Veterans
Affairs is another one that's in there.
[59:24] [snorts] So that is those general fund
items. As you can see, 16 million of the
[59:29] general fund budget is mandated.
5.4 million is nonmandated, but service
[59:34] level is required. And typically those
areas where you go, well, we don't
[59:38] really have to do it. Um there's no
requirement to do it is the next page.
[59:43] And $849,000 total, but really of that
300 that's contingency. So $550,000 is
[59:50] truly non-mandated. There's no service
level required.
[59:53] Um that's so a conservation district
money we transferred for parks and wreck
[59:58] and the road commission very small
numbers economic development.
[1:00:04] Uh that's one of the items I wanted to
share. They they put a larger request in
[1:00:07] this year. Um $277,000
and uh that's one of the areas that you
[1:00:12] can see a big difference on that I uh I
gave them a 5% increase in my proposed
[1:00:17] budget. So um they gave them a little
more. They've been pretty static the
[1:00:23] last several years, but I know they've
upped their efforts and they've come to
[1:00:26] the county to ask for additional
support.
[1:00:30] Uh, and then again, we're we are
continuing to fund the half million
[1:00:33] dollar extra payment into the retirement
fund
[1:00:37] uh to help get us to we're 100%
covered. I believe we're 84% still. Um
[1:00:44] but if we get closer to that 100% that's
when our requirements drop down lower
[1:00:48] and we're able to free up some
operational cash um for debt service
[1:00:54] payments or other things. Uh the bottom
of this page is what I really want to
[1:00:59] talk about new position request. Every
year we do give departments opportunity
[1:01:04] to put a request in and this typically
in the past I know is one of the areas
[1:01:07] where we've seen appeals. Um, as you can
see, there were about $45,000 in new
[1:01:12] requests. [snorts]
Two positions from the prosecutor's
[1:01:15] office. They've asked for new uh new
assistant prosecutor and a new legal
[1:01:18] secretary. [snorts]
U Patrick, emergency management has
[1:01:22] asked for a halftime deputy. Uh right
now, Jim uh has been serving as the
[1:01:28] volunteer deputy
like Patrick did before. Um he was the
[1:01:32] director. U but Jim's getting older so
Patrick's and Patrick is trying to up
[1:01:38] our game there. So, he is asking for
some support there, but it's not
[1:01:41] something I could recommend yet. The
sheriff's department has asked, as their
[1:01:44] staff is getting older, the correction
side of it has asked for an
[1:01:48] administrative sergeant to help with
foyer issues, but also to help training
[1:01:53] to be Lieutenant Nevin's replacement
when he retires in the next few years. I
[1:01:57] see value in it. Um, I just couldn't
support the request at this time. U, but
[1:02:03] that's one of those things in appeals. I
said if you guys would consider
[1:02:07] um some of your vacant deputy positions
kind of a swapping it for a few years
[1:02:11] that that would be something that I
could get behind. Um so that's up to
[1:02:14] sheriff's department if they want to
come forward to the appeals on that.
[1:02:18] Uh the three items I did recommend uh
two position reclassifications in the
[1:02:23] courts uh uh $7,000 total for each and
then adding eight hours to our code
[1:02:29] enforcement position um with the soil
erosion process is just really been
[1:02:35] extremely busy the last few years um and
other we're getting a lot more blight
[1:02:41] requests or asked to issue address
blighted issues across the county. um
[1:02:46] having those eight hours for our code
officer would be extremely important uh
[1:02:50] to support those efforts. So that would
be $30,000 in new requests in year one.
[1:02:55] [clears throat]
So that's the general fund revenue
[1:02:57] expenditures
capital budget.
[1:03:01] You see you have a requested document of
just over $2 million in capital
[1:03:05] requested by departments.
Each of the funding sources for those
[1:03:10] items are listed.
Uh big ticket items in here.
[1:03:18] You have $468,000 in building rehab
projects.
[1:03:24] You have half a million dollar in it,
which 80% of that is we have to replace
[1:03:29] our servers. Um it's time they're due
for replacement. um we've been moving it
[1:03:35] along, kind of carrying it. So, it is
proposing that for next year. I fully
[1:03:39] support that request. Um that's one
thing we cannot do without
[1:03:43] unfortunately.
Um
[1:03:46] and then $400,000 in vehicle
replacements. We have a number of them
[1:03:51] this year. This is abnormal amount.
A lot of our court vehicles are over 10
[1:03:55] years old. Uh and we're starting to see
their age. Uh 10 years is where we look
[1:04:01] at start replacing those vehicles. So,
we're proposing several of them. You
[1:04:05] have a request for a new transporter van
from the jail, a new vehicle for
[1:04:09] community development,
uh a cost share for parks for a new um
[1:04:14] GMC 1500,
two top two patrol vehicles, which is
[1:04:18] we're in our two-year cycle um as
opposed to three, which will be next
[1:04:22] year and three, which we did this
current year. Two administrative
[1:04:26] vehicles for the sheriff.
Uh and then three vehicles in the courts
[1:04:31] and FOC.
Your next page shows the amount what I
[1:04:35] recommended of those requests
of 1.6 million. So what knocked off uh
[1:04:43] there was a request from the parks for
cost sharing on the proposed the grant
[1:04:48] that they received for a new welcome
center. I believe that's the title we're
[1:04:51] using for it, right? [snorts]
Um I see a lot of value to that. Um and
[1:04:56] I proposed an idea to Dan. um for next
year's budget request.
[1:05:01] » Uh I just felt that this year we weren't
in a position um to help fund that. At
[1:05:06] this point, I wanted to know a little
bit more where we stood on um the
[1:05:10] sheriff's department prior to coming
moving that forward to uh the
[1:05:14] commission.
[snorts] Um unfortunately, we can't
[1:05:17] there are certain items we can't wait
on. Health department parking lot, that
[1:05:21] whole area, if you've been up there, is
beyond repair. It needs to be milled and
[1:05:25] replaced.
Um, we've we have improvements we need
[1:05:29] to make to the former FOC building.
Again, please help me find a new name
[1:05:33] for that building. Tired of calling it
former FOC. [snorts]
[1:05:36] Um, especially as we look to we working
with agencies to get them into that
[1:05:41] building. Uh, one of the big things and
those this item and the courthouse
[1:05:46] security are things the ad hoc uh,
building committee has been working on
[1:05:49] um, is that we need to make improvements
to mostly our first floor offices um,
[1:05:55] clerk, treasure, register of deeds and
courts. Um, unfortunately we've started
[1:06:00] to have issues with some of our um,
residents who have
[1:06:07] become a little threatening and um,
abusive of staff. So, we're trying to
[1:06:12] address those issues to make sure we
protect our staff. I mean, um, some of
[1:06:17] these departments, it gets a little
heated and what they do. I mean, you're
[1:06:19] dealing with courts, it's not always
fun. So, we need to make sure our staff
[1:06:23] is protected on that side.
Uh, let's see what else we have in
[1:06:28] there. Uh, the clerk's office has um the
next year of the vital record book in uh
[1:06:33] dig index digit digitalization. Easy for
me to say Sarah, but there's an item
[1:06:38] that you you approved last year and it's
just the next year. Uh she has new
[1:06:42] software training for election
officials. That's a collaboration
[1:06:45] between multiple counties and
municipalities. So, uh depending on how
[1:06:49] that goes, it may reducing cost as more
people jump on.
[1:06:53] Uh the one thing I wanted did want to
talk about is Patrick has requested
[1:06:56] outdoor warning sirens project. Um
this will be one you probably seen
[1:07:02] appeals. It's in here for approved
because we would be we're the fiduciary.
[1:07:06] I'm not proposing that we fund this, but
we are the fiduciary, so I need to show
[1:07:10] the expense. Uh there's a grant that
went into FEMA to help fund some of this
[1:07:14] replacement cost. This is new technology
that would set things off automatically
[1:07:19] with from National Weather Service
issues an tornado warning or severe
[1:07:23] thunderstorm. They've actually got a new
downgrade where they never did it
[1:07:27] before, they're doing it now. Um it
would set it off automatically. It
[1:07:30] wouldn't depend on 911 to do it.
wouldn't depend on somebody else to do
[1:07:33] it. Um, takes the human element out. Uh,
but we have a grant in for that and the
[1:07:38] cost share on that. Uh, right now I
would suggest is on the local
[1:07:41] communities. Uh, what you may get as a
request from Patrick. Uh, and I know
[1:07:46] he's talked to the 911 director about
helping to share in that cost. Um, my
[1:07:50] concern is that it's not countywide.
It's very targeted in the communities
[1:07:54] that have it. So, those communities have
invested in it. Um, if we had more
[1:07:59] countywide approach on that, that would
be different. I'm not suggesting it
[1:08:02] because we don't have the capital to put
it in countywide. So, [snorts] by
[1:08:05] putting this grant together, I think
we're helping the locals, which is what
[1:08:08] we're here to do, but I think the the
cost share is on them at this point. And
[1:08:12] in my proposal, my proposal,
um, register of deeds is going to use
[1:08:16] some of her own fund to restore some of
their information. [snorts]
[1:08:23] Oh,
a new duty weapon replacement for the
[1:08:27] sheriff's department is included in
capital budget. the capital replacement
[1:08:31] fund.
You can see the building rehab items.
[1:08:35] One item in there I I recommended. I'm
I'm a little a little apprehensive about
[1:08:40] right now is security garage exterior
intercom for the jail. I don't think
[1:08:43] that's an area that we're going to keep.
If [clears throat] we do a facility, so
[1:08:48] that would be one that I would
understand. I'd be completely okay with
[1:08:50] you cutting. I think the sheriff's
department, the jail staff would still
[1:08:54] prefer to request it to get them through
the next couple years. But again, I
[1:08:58] think that's something that we can
discuss.
[1:09:01] It uh pretty straightforward in what
they're doing. Everything besides the
[1:09:04] server is standard year-toear.
The diverted felon funds is additional
[1:09:09] funds to um fingerprint machines for the
jail. They're they're due for
[1:09:13] replacement. They're can't get parts for
theirs anymore. [snorts] And vehicle
[1:09:18] replacement. I think I talked to the
sheriff about this originally when we
[1:09:20] met. Um I'm only going to be able to do
one administrative vehicle this year and
[1:09:25] we'll bring back the second one for next
year.
[1:09:29] Um that the rest of them were funded
even the 10,000 for the parks share the
[1:09:34] recommended capital pro. So that's the
recommended capital projects
[1:09:40] new positions I talked about already.
You see this you have a chart on that
[1:09:42] that explains a little more in each one.
Uh again, if I could have recommended
[1:09:47] for administrative sergeant in emergency
management, I would have done so. I just
[1:09:51] was not comfortable with where we were
at the time to do so. Uh again, if they
[1:09:55] make an appeal and you want to take that
a contingency or a cost share or cost
[1:09:59] swapping with the sheriff's department,
um I I would I would support those
[1:10:04] decisions. Um I think that takes us in
the next section, the approved vacant
[1:10:09] positions. This is a little different
than what you've seen in the past. Uh, I
[1:10:12] know there were a lot of questions last
year on or comments made too about,
[1:10:16] well, there's a ton of vacancies in
those departments. Well, I wanted to
[1:10:19] show you truly where we're at right now.
So, you have approved the approved list,
[1:10:22] which is what you see every year.
Current vacancies [snorts] outside of
[1:10:28] someone just left and we're posting.
These are ones that have been vacant for
[1:10:31] a bit. So, custodian one, we're having a
hard time attracting custodians. We had
[1:10:37] a number retire all at once. Um, so we
still have one missing there. We're
[1:10:41] still trying to find I know Jeff would
love to find somebody who's interested.
[1:10:45] So, if you know anyone looking for work
on that side, please send them our way.
[1:10:49] Um the specialy courts program since I
stole Tammy to come work for admin.
[1:10:53] They're working through that issue of
how they replace her. So, that's still
[1:10:58] shown in here. Um as an approved
position, but at this point, it's not
[1:11:03] filled and they're not planning on
filling it as they work through those
[1:11:06] items.
Um, I think the other big one is in the
[1:11:10] sheriff's department right now. They're
down five deputies. I know they have two
[1:11:13] going to the academy. So, I believe
they're truly down three deputies at
[1:11:17] this point.
Those two, one started. One's already
[1:11:22] you had one more thought going.
>> One backed out.
[1:11:28] » Okay.
>> Again.
[1:11:30] » Yeah. Same thing. And I would say to
this, you um every county administrator,
[1:11:36] sher city manager I talk to have the
same issue. It's tough to attract police
[1:11:41] officers right now. Talked to tough to
attract fire. Um it's just a tough field
[1:11:46] uh that uh we'll [snorts] continue to
work away at. But that is um you know
[1:11:51] five five deputies in there. You've got
four to $500,000 that's budgeted for but
[1:11:56] not being spent. So, some of that will
be at the end of the at the end of the
[1:12:01] year if you haven't filled them. That's
where some of your surplus comes from in
[1:12:04] the general fund.
[1:12:07] Um, and I know that I talked to them
about those positions and they don't
[1:12:10] want to give up the approved items. U,
but I wanted to make sure that you were
[1:12:14] aware of that item. And the last page
covers all of our other funds. Um,
[1:12:22] the summary of those items because
again, um, some of those are very
[1:12:26] specific. There are some we will need to
have long discussions with certain
[1:12:30] departments. Um I will tell you just uh
as you look at FOC, you look at child
[1:12:36] care funds,
those departments
[1:12:40] [snorts] um the cost of providing
services to take care of kids if we have
[1:12:43] to put them in a residential program is
just ridiculous. I I'll tell you back
[1:12:48] down the amount that she requested this
year. I still didn't fully fund either
[1:12:52] request. I did more FOC than the
childcare fund. The childcare fund is
[1:12:56] over 2 million in fund balance but that
would get eaten away pretty quickly too
[1:13:00] if you put kids into residential
programs FOC we're
[1:13:04] about 100,000 just over 100,000 in fund
balance so we need to keep that closer
[1:13:09] to funding and again those are worst
case scenarios if we don't need to
[1:13:13] transfer if we don't spend it all we
won't transfer the full amount of money
[1:13:18] um a lot of the other ones happy to
answer any questions on
[1:13:23] and that is the proposed budget for this
year. I'm sure there will be lots of
[1:13:28] questions. I'm happy to answer them now.
I'm happy to meet with commissioners
[1:13:31] individually to go over any item that
you would so like to discuss.
[1:13:37] » Okay.
>> And I would like to thank all the
[1:13:40] departments. I probably should have
started with that. All the departments
[1:13:43] for their help. Um deputy administrator
Tammy Price has been invaluable in
[1:13:47] getting this together. uh former deputy
administrator Luella Dennison came in to
[1:13:52] help us get in over in the transition a
bit. Um so I appreciate their support
[1:13:57] and help and uh I feel comfortable.
We've given you a budget that is
[1:14:01] balanced for next year. Um and hopefully
at the end of the day there will be a
[1:14:06] surplus. That being said, we have some
items for 27 that we will look at. Um I
[1:14:12] think one of the things for me is
without you know I talked to you
[1:14:15] individually but as a commission we
don't have an approved set of priorities
[1:14:19] and I don't as a administrator I I don't
like that.
[1:14:24] » Um so one of the things we're going to
look at next year early in the year is
[1:14:27] some type of strategic plan discussion
process. So at least as I understand
[1:14:33] going through your budget, you say,
"Hey, law enforcement is our top
[1:14:37] priority." When we look at requests,
then I prioritize that or parks are our
[1:14:41] top priority. Then I know that. So those
are those things and I do and once again
[1:14:45] talking to you individually, I can I
know where some of those are. But as a
[1:14:48] commission, I need five of you at least
to say yes, that's our top priority.
[1:14:52] » Um so I think we just good governance is
that we do that. Um how we do it is
[1:14:58] another question is something we'll work
through. Then Timmy and I have started
[1:15:03] to have discussions on how we improve
this process for us and for you for next
[1:15:07] year. Um I know there's some
commissioners that want to be more
[1:15:10] involved and we're happy to have those
discussions. Um and I know some of your
[1:15:15] questions that I've heard from a couple
of them already. We're addressing those
[1:15:19] issues. we're we're anticipating some of
those um to get out ahead of you and
[1:15:23] making sure we don't just accept numbers
uh that are requested that we're really
[1:15:29] digging into why they're being
requested. Uh I did meet with a lot of
[1:15:34] the departments this year. There are
certain departments, mental health, they
[1:15:38] just get a number every year, so it
doesn't really matter for us to meet
[1:15:41] with them. Um some other departments
like that. Um road commission, they a
[1:15:47] small amount. They just set their stuff.
They do their own thing. Central
[1:15:49] Dispatch I don't need to do much with.
Uh they have their own boards. So it's
[1:15:53] the ones that we work with in a
dayto-day that we have a little more
[1:15:57] control on and a little more
responsibility for. So we have some
[1:16:01] thoughts and we'll be happy to discuss
that early in 27 with all of you.
[1:16:06] » Okay. [snorts]
Questions from commissioners?
[1:16:08] » Mr. Chair.
>> Yes.
[1:16:10] » Thank you. So, Michael Brown used to use
this method where he took the budget
[1:16:14] surplus and then divided into uh the
contingency funds like data management,
[1:16:20] vehicle replacement, building um and I
guess I was used to that and thought
[1:16:27] everyone did it, but I guess I was told
that we were the only county that did it
[1:16:32] that way. Are you moving away from that?
>> That's what we've done the last two
[1:16:37] years. Um, so we don't budget for those
numbers because we have no idea what
[1:16:41] that number is going to be. We wait till
the end of the year and you make you
[1:16:45] give us that resolution at the end of
the year that we say, "Hey, you give me
[1:16:48] the authority to split it up between
these funds in this manner." [snorts]
[1:16:51] And so we'll do that in December again
this year if there's a surplus.
[1:16:57] ideal ideally commissioner um I don't
like that approach because to me it's
[1:17:03] great for capital and some of the other
things but like it is a demonstrated
[1:17:08] cost center for the county. We need to
find a way to we budget for that on an
[1:17:12] annual basis not going oh hey I got
$800,000 this surplus I can throw in
[1:17:17] there. Well next year if I don't have
$800,000 I still have that IT cost. And
[1:17:22] I think you guys have been seeing a
trend
[1:17:25] um when we bring it costs and Matt hates
coming to you because he he says the
[1:17:29] same thing every time is that costs are
up. There's a different model for how
[1:17:34] they're doing business and it's not one
where we can just say well we don't want
[1:17:37] to deal with that model. We're stuck
with that model. So how we deal with
[1:17:40] that in our own budget. So that's one of
those things I will be working with um
[1:17:45] Dave Dhan our auditors our cost
allocation folks to look at the impact
[1:17:51] of how we change funding certain
services. So it if we change we put a
[1:17:57] cost for it and we treat it as truly as
an internal service fund which is listed
[1:18:01] at but to do that we would need to
budget it at the beginning of the year
[1:18:05] and say hey we're taking 100,000 out of
the general fund for this we're taking
[1:18:09] 10,000 out of other funds for that. I
think Michael did that because what he
[1:18:14] did is he shared some of the pain to
some of the special revenue funds. So
[1:18:20] the the special revenue funds aren't
absorbing any of the cost of it. So when
[1:18:24] we provide services and I don't mean to
scare some of our special revenue folks
[1:18:29] but like transit COA others we provide
parks we provide service to them. We
[1:18:36] provide payroll to them. We provide an
IT infrastructure to them. They don't
[1:18:39] share in that cost.
So, philosophically, um, as a local
[1:18:45] government administrator, I have a
problem with that. That is not the way
[1:18:48] I've been trained to do things. So,
that's a discussion, but that's an
[1:18:52] approach the county has taken over the
years, and that's and that's served us
[1:18:56] well. Um, and if that's something you
still want to do, I will continue to do
[1:19:00] that. But that's one of those
discussions we need to have next year
[1:19:03] » of how we move forward. Again, I love my
my special revenue um partners. Um, but
[1:19:11] the fact that we are sharing costs from
that of the general fund without them
[1:19:16] sharing back concerns me for a long-term
viability
[1:19:22] vehicle. We don't really we just kind of
like, yeah, we'll get to vehicles
[1:19:26] hopefully. Hopefully, we have the money
there and we've had the money there, but
[1:19:29] again, we get to a point where we were
back in 2008 where things where we were
[1:19:32] cutting everything. Well, there's only
so long you can cut and not replace
[1:19:36] certain things before things fall apart.
>> Mhm. And once again, the county was in a
[1:19:41] good spot. Um I just I have a different
philosophy on that.
[1:19:47] » Okay,
Mr. Smoker,
[1:19:51] » question on that. Then on the special
revenue services,
[1:19:56] uh
on the fund balances, who receives the
[1:20:01] interest off of that money?
>> That is a great question, John.
[1:20:05] [laughter] Uh and I'm still trying to
100% understand that. I know some of
[1:20:09] them uh have been built up or some of it
goes to general fund.
[1:20:15] I don't think that's the case for all of
them and some of that was I don't know
[1:20:18] if it's something that Sue had put in
place working with the departments um or
[1:20:22] not. I know COA we just made a a
contribution at the end of the year last
[1:20:27] year to make sure that they got their
interest in the building fund. Um but we
[1:20:31] need to be doesn't to me it doesn't
matter who the treasurer is. It doesn't
[1:20:35] matter who the administrator is. There
should be these standard processes is
[1:20:39] how it works. Um,
>> everybody should be treated the same.
[1:20:42] » Yeah, absolutely. Everybody should be
treated the same. Um, but that goes good
[1:20:45] and bad. There should be shared cost,
revenues, shared expenses. Um, so those
[1:20:51] are those issues we're trying to
understand and uh with the transition
[1:20:54] from, you know, Sue to Kelly after 40
years, there's the change in certain
[1:20:59] approaches. So, I think they're all good
discussions.
[1:21:03] » Okay.
Commissioner Tunison.
[1:21:07] » Eric, I got a question on the unfunded
liabilities that we pay that extra half
[1:21:12] million. Do we pay interest on that? Is
that why we're paying the extra 500?
[1:21:18] » No, we're paying the extra 5 because we
have a required contribution that will
[1:21:21] get us to
>> 100% funded at a certain point,
[1:21:24] » right?
>> The commission has made a decision that
[1:21:27] they want to speed that up. We want to
help put more money in there so we reach
[1:21:32] that 100% funded earlier. Um and and it
may be valuable for us to bring Mge back
[1:21:38] in. And it's probably been a while since
you've heard from MES because Michael
[1:21:41] was the board president and um but I
think it may be valuable to have one of
[1:21:46] our reps from Mge come back in to walk
you through some of that process. Um I
[1:21:51] know I've met with them multiple times
since I've been here. Tammy's You met
[1:21:55] with her yet? Veronica? Okay. Uh Jeff
had met with her before he left. Um, so
[1:22:01] that's I think that's a valuable thing
we can bring in uh later in the year,
[1:22:04] early next year and have run through the
annual evaluation with you.
[1:22:10] » But no, it's not an interest. It's just
a matter of trying to get ahead of the
[1:22:12] game.
>> Okay. That's I was just curious if we're
[1:22:14] paying interest on that.
>> They just frustrate me because they keep
[1:22:18] changing their actuary numbers and keep
telling us we owe more. So,
[1:22:21] » and they did they did this year. Um, it
was a good year. So, it was a good year
[1:22:25] for them to do it. But um and it's some
people will say it's a more realistic
[1:22:32] approach. I mean they used to be I think
closer to 8%. I mean to have 8% returns
[1:22:37] every year
historically probably not.
[1:22:41] Some you'll have 15 other years you'll
have two. Some years you lost money. I
[1:22:46] would say I know there are people out
scheduling them in later for a
[1:22:49] presentation.
>> Okay.
[1:22:52] But I also would say I think that MS is
[1:22:59] yeah their practices are somewhat
unusual atypical for a member to
[1:23:08] accelerate the the catch up on the
unfunded. Um yeah
[1:23:14] » yeah in the private sector whatever that
unfunded is and whatever the pension
[1:23:19] funds uh provisions are for that that's
usually what is done.
[1:23:25] » Yeah.
>> Uh it's just you know the nature of the
[1:23:29] beast. Um the bottom line is that uh
when you look at any
[1:23:39] reasonable projection of future returns
[snorts]
[1:23:46] they're
our employees are going to be fine
[1:23:51] whether we have caught it up sooner or
whether we play it out the way MS wants.
[1:23:57] So I think that in my mind
playing yeah paying the additional half
[1:24:05] million a year uh
is okay. It's really not necessary. And
[1:24:13] I think that as we start going through
the exercise that Eric is talking about
[1:24:18] prioritizing
really uh uh where our funding
[1:24:24] priorities are
that one very much in to me has a
[1:24:30] question mark next to it. Um, I I think
and I and I say the same thing about the
[1:24:40] our practices with establishing all of
these extra fund balances.
[1:24:46] Uh, to to to me that reminds me an awful
lot of uh uh household budgeting when
[1:24:54] you sort out all the envelopes and
allocate your
[1:24:59] joy of fund accounting.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I think that you
[1:25:03] know what is lacking when you do that is
uh an analysis of what are your total
[1:25:13] available fund balances out there and
what are the chances that you're ever
[1:25:19] going to get hit in in each of those
operational areas that would could not
[1:25:25] be addressed by a consolidated fund
balance. In some aspects you can't
[1:25:30] because of the funds we have to keep it
separate. Um for I mean I will tell you
[1:25:35] for example I think there's 7 million in
the 100% umbrella fund right now.
[1:25:39] » Is could more of that be available?
>> I I can't tell you yes right now.
[1:25:44] » I can't tell you no right now. Um that
would be discussion with the treasurer.
[1:25:47] » Yeah.
>> There's four plus million in the
[1:25:49] foreclosure fund. We very very
deliberately not touch that until all
[1:25:54] the court cases are resolved. And that's
a shock to a consolidated fund that you
[1:25:59] would not want to have to deal with.
>> No. And and I think the the one thing
[1:26:02] that we haven't really talked about and
it's a decision the county made I think
[1:26:05] in 12 to move away from retirey
healthcare. Um we have the statement we
[1:26:12] put in uh on a monthly basis for
everyone right now. Uh we have a handful
[1:26:17] of people left on retirey healthcare. Um
so when they hit 65, they age out, they
[1:26:22] go to Medicare. We don't fund that
anymore. So, we have [sighs and gasps] a
[1:26:26] few people. I think 2032 the last one
comes off the books. Uh, but at some
[1:26:31] point you could make a decision to say,
"Hey, we're going to buy you out of our
[1:26:35] the liability standpoint. We're going to
pay you off. We'll take that risk." And
[1:26:39] you probably have about 8 $900,000 in
that fund right now over what our
[1:26:44] long-term liabilities are that you could
then put into something. So, are there
[1:26:49] resources there that if we got down into
a crunch and you need to make I had to
[1:26:53] make a call? Well, sure there are.
Am I going to say, "Hey, that 800,000
[1:26:57] was taken tomorrow." Absolutely not.
Unless we make some other decisions. So,
[1:27:02] um, those are more discussions we can
have going forward. It
[1:27:05] » It's a
It's not a simple discussion.
[1:27:09] » No.
>> But it's one that we need to y
[1:27:12] » we do need to have at some point.
>> Just give me plenty of time to be
[1:27:18] prepared for that discussion.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:27:22] Why do you think we haven't pushed you
the last couple?
[1:27:24] » I appreciate that.
>> Yeah.
[1:27:27] » Okay. I don't think we need a vote on
this, do we? You do not.
[1:27:29] » This is just an open discussion.
>> It's introduction. So, you will at your
[1:27:34] next meeting um your next meeting after.
So, the intention is we get through
[1:27:39] appeals
uh at that meeting and you have whatever
[1:27:43] number if you approve any appeals. we
pop that into the budget right away and
[1:27:46] we give you a total number at that
meeting that you approve a budget for um
[1:27:52] the public hearing to be scheduled in
October. So
[1:27:55] there are items in here we'll tweak
between now and then. Um but the coming
[1:28:01] out of the next meeting on the 22nd is
when you will have a final budget uh
[1:28:05] draft for your consideration on October
27th.
[1:28:09] » Okay. [snorts]
Okay. We have no unfinished business, no
[1:28:14] new business. Do you have anything for
the county administrator's report?
[1:28:17] » I covered the ad hoc building committee
already. That's something we'll continue
[1:28:20] to work on. We'll have more information
when we have uh fixed cost software
[1:28:24] project. There are hiccups. We're
working through them. We had a check
[1:28:28] run. I notified you all that the checks
printed without routing numbers on. So,
[1:28:34] uh those were fixed the next day and
remailed out, but we're addressing that
[1:28:38] with folks. Um Tammy's got him BSA
scheduled the next three days when they
[1:28:43] come back tomorrow with departments to
make sure we have everything built out,
[1:28:47] access to what they need. Um I love the
functionality. I love having it at my
[1:28:53] fingertips. I never had access to Tyler
prior to this. I kept telling everyone
[1:28:58] that they're like, "Eric, that's fine."
Um but I love having it at my
[1:29:01] fingertips. I can pull things up. Um so
there will be headaches. You will
[1:29:07] probably hear from some of your
departments saying, "Hey, we don't have
[1:29:09] access to this." We're working through
it. BSNA has got a great support going
[1:29:13] forward. Um, and they're also working
with the locals to try and get everybody
[1:29:17] on the cloud tax and some of the other
cloud stuff that they may give it an
[1:29:22] incentive if they do it now. Um, because
we're on it. We have tax for the first
[1:29:27] time in our history as a county. So,
well, we will in November. They'll get
[1:29:31] that implemented there. So, all in all,
there has been pain, but um, it's going
[1:29:35] okay. So, we'll continue to plug away.
>> Okay. [clears throat] Thank you.
[1:29:40] » I think that's all I have. [snorts]
>> Chairperson's report. We're at the start
[1:29:44] of the cycle, so it will be Barry
Township tonight, Rutland on Wednesday.
[1:29:48] So, other than that, vice chairperson's
report.
[1:29:51] » Same thing.
>> Okay. Commissioner reports. Commissioner
[1:29:55] Tunis,
>> uh, be attending Hastings charter
[1:29:59] tonight. That's about all I got.
>> Okay. Commissioner Campbell,
[1:30:04] » I do have uh Syria tonight and I believe
Johnstone on Wednesday.
[1:30:10] » Okay. Commissioner Smoker,
>> I'm good. Commissioner Gaddy
[1:30:15] » got Yankee Springs on Thursday night. Um
and yeah, start of the cycle. So,
[1:30:24] » Commissioner Colton,
>> Woodland Township tonight, Village of
[1:30:27] Nashville on Thursday.
>> Okay. Commissioner Basson. Uh, I don't
[1:30:31] know where I'm going to be for the next
couple of weeks since my trip was
[1:30:34] planned today or canceled today, but um,
uh, Katherine was telling me about a
[1:30:39] Yankee Springs planning uh, meeting
tonight that I think I'm going to try to
[1:30:42] go to. And then Yankee Springs and again
the cycle glib Prairieville coming up
[1:30:47] next week, so see where I am.
>> Commissioner Basset was supposed to be
[1:30:50] in Hawaii for 10 days, but
>> she decided she wanted to stay with us.
[1:30:54] Hurricane. [laughter]
>> Good decision.
[1:30:56] » Lel four-letter [snorts]
word right now. Yeah, hurricanes are
[1:31:00] your friend.
>> Oh, yeah.
[1:31:01] » Okay. Limited public comment at this
time. Any member of the public wishing
[1:31:05] to address the board may do so for up to
three minutes.
[1:31:09] » Twice I was referred to as Mr. Osborne,
so that made my drive from Delton well
[1:31:13] worth it. So, thank you. Um,
don't get me wrong, I'm also feel the
[1:31:19] jail needs upgrading. Um, I've only been
there a few times, luckily, to register
[1:31:25] guns. Uh hopefully after today that
doesn't change.
[1:31:29] » Oh, we'll take you back anytime you want
to go, Larry. [laughter]
[1:31:32] » Um but uh my intent is just to start
thinking what you need to do to work as
[1:31:39] a county to come together to get it
passed. I just don't want it to, you
[1:31:43] know, that was a lot of tax dollars
wasted. Um but it needs to happen. Just
[1:31:49] everybody needs to work together to
bring all the groups together. Dave has
[1:31:54] mentioned a couple times now to me about
the uh uh mental health. That's a big
[1:32:00] thing, man. That promote that more
because that's that's a very important
[1:32:05] aspect of this. So So anyway, don't get
me wrong. I I'm with you. I appreciate
[1:32:10] what you're doing, but I don't see
everybody working together to try to get
[1:32:14] the community to come together for a yes
vote. And that's what you really need to
[1:32:18] Let's make that happen.
>> Thank you.
[1:32:22] Additional public comment.
[1:32:32] » Always hate coming right there and you
know it. Where are you? Where are you?
[1:32:36] All right. I'm going to do uh seems out
this was released and I didn't release
[1:32:40] it. Uh
hope this is hopefully to calm me down a
[1:32:44] little bit on some of the stuff we've
been doing with elections. This is this
[1:32:47] is released to Rasmusen and it says yes
the Dominion systems have modems that
[1:32:51] can connect to the internet but they are
disabled by election officials who do to
[1:32:55] fully uh test to asssure they're
switched off. Venezuelan engineer and
[1:33:00] might add this all goes back to
Venezuelan Maduro just got arrested not
[1:33:04] too long ago. I got goosebumps when that
happened. some of the information we had
[1:33:08] that we shared with the federal
government that we come on with uh the
[1:33:12] uh
um
[1:33:16] oh email addresses or email messages
back and forth uh that helped. So
[1:33:22] anyways, V Venezuelan engineer testimony
that doesn't matter. They can be
[1:33:25] remotely switched on by us. So this is
my job, okay? It's not political. And uh
[1:33:32] if you want to read more of the
testimony here, it says uh uh I got
[1:33:36] time. This is a question by an attorney.
Do the computers made in China and
[1:33:41] Taiwan include circuits that can
communicate with the internet? The
[1:33:46] answer, and this is from this Venezuelan
engineer, correct? They have internal
[1:33:50] modems that allow external
communications. And it is the
[1:33:53] responsibility of each one of those each
one of the different corporations to
[1:33:57] disable those components or to leave
them disabled for the elections.
[1:34:03] This is a question from the attorney.
Now, can the firmware keep those modems
[1:34:08] enabled even if the software commands
the system to disable the modems? In
[1:34:13] other words,
[1:34:16] can you have fir firmware that allows
the modems to remain on even when the
[1:34:21] software thinks it's off? The answer
from the Venezuelan uh engineer, yes.
[1:34:27] Well, for that you would need an
[snorts] engineer that understands a
[1:34:31] Windows pipeline system which will allow
you to block certain parameters within
[1:34:35] the systems. But through the operating
system, then I can enable the
[1:34:40] components. In other words, yes. The
answer to your question is yes. So
[1:34:45] again, this is my job to get stay on top
of this right here. That is not
[1:34:50] political. And uh this is one of those
things I had to sit on for a long time
[1:34:55] and now I looked at it going, "Hey, they
released that to Ras Mus." All right, I
[1:34:58] can say it now. So again, um we're still
marching forward on that and it is not
[1:35:04] political. All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Additional public comment
[1:35:13] hearing. None. Other business. We have
none. Commissioner comments.
[1:35:17] Commissioner Basset.
>> Um I think at some point I'd like to
[1:35:21] hear a report on the um webcams that we
have and uh figure that out if we're
[1:35:26] going to have a separate me, you know,
some kind of meeting or whatever. But
[1:35:29] I'd like to have a report on where that
stands.
[1:35:31] » Okay. [snorts] Commissioner Colton,
Commissioner Getty.
[1:35:37] Um,
I guess I'd still like some answers
[1:35:41] about the body cams.
I'd like to hear a status update from
[1:35:46] the sheriff and the sheriff's
department. Just want I don't want that
[1:35:49] to I don't want to lose focus on on
making sure that those are implemented
[1:35:55] and and being used.
>> Okay. Commissioner Smilker,
[1:35:59] » I'm good.
>> Commissioner Hatfield. Uh just a very
[1:36:03] brief uh comment repeating what I think
I said uh at the last meeting. We
[1:36:09] realize, believe me, we realize the
importance of how we conduct a
[1:36:15] millillage campaign if we decide to move
ahead. But what we're doing now is what
[1:36:23] is necessary to get the information that
we need to go out there and effectively
[1:36:29] communicate with everybody in the county
exactly what the costs are are going to
[1:36:36] be, what's what services are connected
with those and uh why we feel that now
[1:36:44] is the time to move ahead. So nothing
that's going on now should infer that we
[1:36:52] don't intend to conduct a very effective
millage campaign if we decide [snorts]
[1:37:00] that that's the direction we're going.
So don't criticize us for where we are.
[1:37:06] You know, we're right where we need to
be. We're gathering information and
[1:37:11] talking to the experts so that we can
put an effective campaign out there if
[1:37:16] that becomes the the direction we
choose.
[1:37:20] » Okay, Commissioner Campbell.
>> Uh just to say go along with the
[1:37:26] Commissioner Getty and Commissioner
Basset, I I mean we're all getting calls
[1:37:30] on on the body cams for sure. Uh so we
we just need to continue staying on top
[1:37:35] of that. Make sure we have a direction
and a plan what's going to happen with
[1:37:38] that so we can answer to our
constituents. Um also um uh I'm not
[1:37:44] going to call you Mr. Osborne. I know
you too well, Larry. He brings up a very
[1:37:49] appreciate what you said there, Larry.
Uh I have a thing down at the VFW
[1:37:55] uh and it holds true in everything we
do. It's three simple words. Together we
[1:38:00] can. and together we can make this law
enforcement uh facility come a reality.
[1:38:06] But it's going to take every one of us.
Every one of us has got to be on board.
[1:38:10] Every one of us has got to be knowing
what's going on and being upfront on it.
[1:38:14] Now, on another thing, we have 9/11
coming up on Friday night. We all
[1:38:19] remember what a tragedy that was to our
country and [snorts] uh the uh Scouts of
[1:38:24] America, the uh Delta Moose, the Hickory
Legion, and uh BFW 422 family. We always
[1:38:31] put together an event at the fire barn.
Starts at 6:00. It's a it's a
[1:38:37] remembrance and a ceremony honoring
those who died there and a chance for us
[1:38:42] to never forget what happened there. And
uh we'd like to see you all come out
[1:38:46] afterwards. there's uh free uh uh
extensive hot dogs, so come on down and
[1:38:53] enjoy that if you can. Uh we'd love to
see you there. Thank you, Commissioner
[1:38:59] Tennis.
>> Um wanted [clears throat] to give little
[1:39:02] update on the Commission on Aging
building. I went out there last Tuesday.
[1:39:07] Um it's looking fantastic out there. Uh
they had a few loose ends. They were
[1:39:13] planning on moving in this coming
Friday. start over the weekend. Uh it's
[1:39:19] going to be like a week delayed, but it
won't affect like the grand opening or
[1:39:23] anything. They're going to start moving
in just a week later. Give the
[1:39:26] contractors a little bit more time to
finish up small details.
[1:39:31] So the 16th, I think she's going to
start moving furniture and stuff in
[1:39:35] there. And then
um the 29th will be for the public to
[1:39:40] come and finally see the great results
of us
[1:39:46] the community coming together and
putting this together for the seniors of
[1:39:50] this county. It's really going to be
special for them. A lot of people
[1:39:53] excited about it. So, it's been a long
time coming. So, it has the process
[1:40:00] worked with that though, like you said,
saving almost a million dollars, bidding
[1:40:04] out locally, doing some things that
really worked well for that. So, proud
[1:40:07] of the effort that they all put together
and I'm sure that that staff at
[1:40:11] Commission on Aging is going to be happy
to have this behind them.
[1:40:13] » They're excited.
really excited.
[1:40:17] » Um, I don't have much other than don't
forget school buses are out there and
[1:40:22] tractors right out on the road as we get
to the harvest season and back in
[1:40:26] school. So, watch out for those. Take
care. Thank you all for coming. We'll
[1:40:30] look forward to seeing you soon.
[1:40:38] Okay.