1 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Good evening and welcome to our Tuesday, 2 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,520 April 14th town council meeting. Uh 3 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,440 we're going to go ahead and start with a 4 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,680 work session though on the Midland 5 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,800 design guidelines. Um and we've invited 6 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,960 uh planning and zoning and we have Bill 7 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Marone here. So uh yeah. Yeah. And the 8 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,240 rest of the council is in the room or 9 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,560 online or coming in and uh Jessica 10 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Hubard's on. I see some folks. But uh I 11 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,840 think this is going to be uh James and 12 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,880 Carlton kind of running the show here um 13 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,479 as far as the work session. So I will 14 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:28,800 turn it over to you both. 15 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,360 >> Carlton's going to run with it here. 16 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,759 >> Good evening council. Uh 17 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:35,840 >> actually before before you get started 18 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 also this is a work session so like 19 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Elise you can come sit up here because 20 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 this is you're going to be this is 21 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,080 you're going to be part of this. So, 22 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,280 everybody who's [clears throat] going to 23 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,840 be part of it should be up here in the 24 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,479 front as long as you guys are okay. I 25 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:51,759 think it's Gloria and I talked about it. 26 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:52,479 You you go with that, 27 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:56,639 >> Jack? Just take Let's get up. Let's get close. 28 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:58,960 >> This is a work session, not a council 29 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,479 meeting. So, we want to, you know, the 30 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:02,560 idea is we we've seen it. You've seen 31 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,400 it. We have a new council that's going 32 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,039 to come vote on this. Um so, we all want 33 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:09,199 to level set on what we're going to do 34 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:11,520 um together. So that way the next 35 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,199 council when they vote on it, it's, you 36 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,520 know, we've all kind of been there and 37 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,319 spoken together. That's the idea. So 38 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:19,440 Carlton, sorry. 39 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,319 >> All good. Good evening, council. Carlton 40 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,479 Henry, planner 2 with the town of Asalt. 41 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:27,759 Uh, I'm here this evening to uh 42 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,000 introduce a work session on the Midland 43 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,039 Avenue District Design Guidelines. Um, 44 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,240 we also have Jessica Hubard from uh GMJ 45 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Architects online uh who will be uh 46 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,120 walking you guys through the work 47 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,800 session and presenting the draft of the 48 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Midland Avenue District design 49 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,560 guidelines. Just a little bit of 50 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,720 background for the record. Uh this 51 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,800 project began last summer when town 52 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,680 council passed a resolution to approve a 53 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:57,839 contract with GMA in order to pres 54 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:00,640 perform consulting consulting services 55 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,959 and establish architectural design 56 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:05,120 guidelines in Basalt's historic 57 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,720 commercial core. Uh 2025 was a milestone 58 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,360 year in the history of Midland Avenue 59 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,519 with the complete completion of the 60 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,320 Midland Avenue streetscape project. The 61 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,680 development of the Midland Avenue uh 62 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,480 district design guidelines was a natural 63 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,000 um 64 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,640 uh successor to the completion of this 65 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,200 project. Uh the completion or the 66 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,880 creation of the architectural design 67 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,519 guidelines seeks to implement the 2020 68 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:36,399 basalt master plan goals regarding the 69 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:39,360 historic character of Basalt as listed 70 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,000 under related town statutes and/or town 71 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,640 actions below. Over the last nine 72 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,920 months, the consultant team has 73 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,160 conducted research, engaged in extensive 74 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,560 community outreach, and produced sever 75 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,959 several drafts with consideration given 76 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:54,800 to feedback from staff, [laughter] 77 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,800 planning and zoning commission, 78 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,800 architecture, and design industry 79 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,040 professionals and members of the public. 80 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,120 At the March 10th town council meeting, 81 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 council considered a presentation of the 82 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,480 design guidelines from GMA and requested 83 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,560 that staff and the consultant team 84 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,480 return for a work session at a future 85 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,720 meeting. Council also requested that 86 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,640 planning and zoning be invited to 87 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,560 discuss the design guidelines with 88 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,640 council in a work session. And as 89 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,720 mentioned, we have Bill Marin here from 90 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,200 planning and zoning um to provide input 91 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,000 as well. GMJ architects have provided a 92 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 draft of the district design guidelines 93 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,640 for review by town council and that 94 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,560 those design guidelines are linked in 95 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,480 the agenda as well as in this memo 96 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,839 below. 97 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:39,680 Um, 98 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,760 we ask that council hear a presentation 99 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,079 from GMJ architects, ask questions of 100 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:47,040 the consultant and of staff, provide 101 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,560 feedback on the drafted design 102 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,079 guidelines, 103 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:53,200 um, and uh, I'll just add that a final 104 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,360 draft of the design guidelines and a 105 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,360 resolution will be presented at a future 106 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,640 meeting for council approval. With that, 107 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,240 if you guys have any questions, I'd be 108 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,000 happy to answer any questions you may 109 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 have. Otherwise, I will hand it over to 110 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,829 Jessica. 111 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:13,600 » Great. 112 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,519 Go ahead, Jessica. You are muted, by the 113 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:16,640 way. 114 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,800 >> Okay, great. Yeah, I was wasn't sure if 115 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,200 there were any questions. Uh, can 116 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,680 everyone hear me? Okay. Slash see my 117 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:24,640 screen. 118 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,079 >> Yes. 119 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:29,680 >> Okay, great. Well, yes. Uh, thank you, 120 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,240 council, for having me this evening. I 121 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,200 apologize. I'm not in person. Um, but 122 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,839 I'm I'm very honored to be here and to 123 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:40,720 present the design guidelines to you. 124 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,200 Uh, tonight we are going to dig in a 125 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,440 little bit deeper into what the 126 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,519 guidelines specifically entail. And I 127 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:50,800 know most of you have heard this 128 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,880 presentation before, so I will try to 129 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,920 give the background um just a few 130 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,839 minutes. But for those that are new to 131 00:11:57,839 --> 00:11:59,519 the project, uh we're just going to talk 132 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:01,279 about the history and what design 133 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:02,880 guidelines are really quickly and then 134 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,880 we'll dive into the draft itself. So, um 135 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,320 for those of you that have not met me, 136 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,839 my name is Jessica Huard. I'm an 137 00:12:09,839 --> 00:12:12,480 architect, planner, and uh principal of 138 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,160 GMA. 139 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:21,509 And uh we'll we'll dive in. 140 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:23,839 Okay. So for those of you that are not 141 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:26,000 familiar with what the project is, as 142 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Carlton gave a background, we were 143 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,519 contracted by town planning to develop 144 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:34,240 design guidelines for what we determined 145 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,600 as the Midland Avenue district. So the 146 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,920 district aligns with the C2 downtown 147 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,959 business district in the zoning and then 148 00:12:42,959 --> 00:12:44,720 most properties that are fronting 149 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,639 Midland Avenue. And we have a map that 150 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,079 I'll get to in the next slide. 151 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:52,000 So here you can see the district 152 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,639 boundary. All of the buildings that are 153 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:59,120 within the hatched blue region are 154 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,880 buildings that will be um upheld to the 155 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,600 design guidelines. Uh it's kind of hard 156 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,399 to see on the screen, I'm sure, but the 157 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:11,120 small orange circles represent what 158 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,279 we're calling contributing buildings. 159 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,040 And we'll get more into that when we 160 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,560 talk about section two. 161 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,560 So, what are design guidelines? As 162 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,720 you've heard and as we've discussed many 163 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,880 times with planning and zoning and with 164 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,760 council on March 10, design guidelines 165 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,880 are policies. We are thinking of them as 166 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,320 an overlay to the existing zoning. They 167 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,240 specifically describe architectural 168 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,800 styles, features, and characteristics 169 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,519 that essentially define what assault is. 170 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:45,519 So for any new development or existing 171 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:47,200 buildings that are purchased by an 172 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,160 owner, a new owner, uh basically these 173 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,800 guidelines are going to help them craft 174 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,839 uh making more basalt and contributing 175 00:13:55,839 --> 00:13:59,199 to what basult sense of place is. And so 176 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,279 they really are a planning tool. They're 177 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:03,120 proactive planning tool and they'll be 178 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,839 upheld by town planning staff or the 179 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:07,360 commission through site plan and 180 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,670 building permit review. 181 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:14,000 And then just why design guidelines? As 182 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Carlton mentioned, 2025 was a large year 183 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,600 for Basalt with the Midland Avenue 184 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,240 streetscape project. And so the design 185 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,120 guidelines will really support again 186 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 creating more Basult celebrating the 187 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,639 culture of Midland Avenue. It'll also 188 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,040 provide a framework for the planning 189 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 department so that as development comes 190 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,120 down the valley as new owners are coming 191 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,079 into town um new applicants they will 192 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:44,639 have a framework to look to for when 193 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:48,160 they are building new developments or 194 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,959 altering existing buildings. And the 195 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,560 guidelines help uh town planning and or 196 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,240 the planning and zoning commission 197 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,880 council property owners make informed 198 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,880 decisions about these potential 199 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,199 projects. And then also uh we in these 200 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:08,240 guidelines are encouraging preservation 201 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,760 of some of the salt's most unique and 202 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,160 historic buildings. Uh and those are 203 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,760 what we're referring to as the 204 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,160 contributing buildings that we are 205 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,269 encouraging preservation of. 206 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:24,959 And then this we always like to 207 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:27,120 highlight this in each presentation. 208 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,880 This came from a resident of Basalt just 209 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,279 asking what really makes Midland Avenue 210 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:34,880 special. And if when you think about 211 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,959 Midland Avenue, you think about the 212 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:40,320 vibrant colors, the playful roof lines. 213 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,399 Most of the buildings are either two or 214 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:44,720 three stories, which means they're 215 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,360 designed to human scale. They're not 216 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,759 like a huge skyscraper making you feel 217 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:54,800 like a small ant when you're walking on the street. Uh Midland Avenue really 218 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,880 is designed to scale to human scale. It 219 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,959 also has an inviting walkable street 220 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:03,440 environment. And then there's a ton of 221 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,440 connection to history and nature with 222 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,279 Basalt being a railroad town. Uh there's 223 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:12,399 a lot of history and connection to why 224 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:14,160 Midland Avenue is the way that it is 225 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,120 today. And then just to highlight that 226 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,759 characteristics like this, playful roof 227 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:22,320 lines, vibrant colors, the scale of 228 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 buildings, um creating inviting walkable 229 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,759 streets comes from storefront at the 230 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:29,199 ground level. These are all 231 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:31,199 characteristics that are driven by 232 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,120 zoning, but they're reinforced by the 233 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,509 design guidelines. 234 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:39,360 So digging into the guidelines 235 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,959 themselves, we have divided the 236 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:46,079 guidelines into seven sections. So we'll 237 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:48,160 start with the introduction section and 238 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,600 then we'll dig into the meat of the 239 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 guidelines which is the existing 240 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,160 buildings and the new construction and 241 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,079 then we'll conclude with sustainable 242 00:16:56,079 --> 00:16:58,000 design and the review processes in 243 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,759 chapters six and seven. 244 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:04,640 So section one, this is truly an 245 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,959 introduction to how to use the 246 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:11,280 guidelines, the history of basalt and uh 247 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,000 what to expect in the design guidelines. 248 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,240 So for example, just to put this project 249 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,520 flow diagram to use, for example, I'd 250 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,360 like you all to think about what if an 251 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:26,319 owner, a new owner comes into the town 252 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,160 of Basalt and they purchase the Alpine 253 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,600 Bank. So they'd start at the top 254 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 rectangle. So the project located in 255 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,799 Midland Avenue District. Yes. Step one, 256 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,640 does the project involve an existing 257 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,320 building? Yes. Alpine Bank is existing. 258 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,919 Two, is the building historic? Yes, we 259 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:47,600 are considering that building a 260 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,760 contributing building. So then we'd 261 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,080 follow that line all the way down to um 262 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,799 C-section 3.2 working on contributing 263 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:58,080 buildings. And then we do have a 264 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,600 subsection of is the building 265 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,360 restorable, but I don't think we need to 266 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,000 get into that during this work session 267 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,200 unless council requires we dig into 268 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,520 that. So anyway, just using that as an 269 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,520 example of how to use the guidelines. 270 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Obviously, if a owner came in and 271 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,320 purchased a parcel of land, I'm not sure 272 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,160 where, that does not have an existing 273 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,160 building, we would consider that new 274 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,360 construction and then they would be 275 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,600 directed to section five architecture 276 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,150 and new construction. 277 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,120 So then moving on to section two. This 278 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,520 section we really dive into the history 279 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,120 and character of Midland Avenue. So what 280 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,200 architectural styles and periods of 281 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,919 significance developed from the history 282 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:45,440 of Basalt? And this section and chapter 283 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,120 3 really stem from whether or not to 284 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,280 designate the Midland Avenue District as 285 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,679 a national historic landmark district. 286 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:56,400 And what that means is that it would be 287 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,960 registered with the National Park 288 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,080 Service and it would adhere to the 289 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,400 Secretary of the Interior standards most 290 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,640 of the buildings that are contributing. 291 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,360 And so since that is not a that has not 292 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,320 been formalized, this is the next best 293 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,200 way to preserve some of these existing 294 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:24,080 buildings that are so cherished by the entire town. And so in order to 295 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,600 identify those contributing buildings, 296 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,840 we also had to identify certain periods 297 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,280 of significance. And if you're not 298 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,440 familiar with that term, it's 299 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,640 essentially a time frame in the context 300 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,360 of historic preservation. So you're most 301 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,120 likely familiar with the false front 302 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,799 commercial period of significance or the 303 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,840 queen revival is or there's those are 304 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,919 probably the top two that you're most 305 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:49,760 familiar with with buildings around the 306 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,000 soul. 307 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,240 And then diving in a little bit deeper 308 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,960 of what is in section two, we then took 309 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,600 these periods of significance and we 310 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880 broke down in alignment with uh history 311 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Colorado which is our state historic 312 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,919 preservation office. We broke down the 313 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:09,919 history of these periods of significance 314 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:11,679 and then we also identified common 315 00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:15,120 features so that say an individual comes 316 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:19,039 in and wants to create more of a 19th 317 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,880 century commercial building or wants to 318 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,559 restore or recreate false front 319 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:25,919 commercial. They have some of those 320 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:29,590 common features. 321 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 And then finally we outlined the 322 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,039 contributing buildings. So these are the 323 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,360 cherished buildings. These are buildings 324 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:41,520 that if we ever wanted to, we could 325 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,760 apply for these buildings to be listed 326 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,840 on the national register because right 327 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,559 now there are not many protections for 328 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,400 these buildings. [clears throat] Uh an 329 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 individual or or company or or whoever 330 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,360 could come in and purchase these 331 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:59,520 buildings and there's no protection that 332 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,430 it's beyond just town planning. 333 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,360 So naturally, if we're going to 334 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,600 designate contributing buildings, we 335 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,200 need to talk about how to treat these 336 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,159 existing buildings. So in section three, 337 00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:17,600 we begin to outline types of existing 338 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,320 buildings. So this is where we define 339 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,760 historic, contributing, 340 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,600 non-contributing, and non-historic 341 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 because there is a difference. We then 342 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,720 go into the recommended treatments of 343 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,960 historic features. And this all comes 344 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,039 from the Secretary of the Interior 345 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:35,600 standards. So preserve, repair, replace, 346 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,480 reconstruct. That those are the four 347 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,799 types of treatment. Um so a lot of this 348 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:43,520 is is in direct alignment with the 349 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,159 National Park Service. And then we also 350 00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:48,799 go into discourage treatments. 351 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:51,679 Naturally, demolition is a very large 352 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:53,440 discourage treatment for historic 353 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,600 buildings. But then we talk about 354 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,480 exterior alterations, additions, and 355 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,559 then treatments of some of these 356 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,960 details. So, foundations, windows, 357 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,000 historic doors, roofs, materials, things 358 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,400 like that. 359 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,640 And so, tonight, the format is a little 360 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,200 different than our presentation on March 361 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,200 10th. I really wanted council to see how 362 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,320 the guidelines align directly with the 363 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,799 checklist for an applicant. And so the 364 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:27,360 checklist is divided into two sections. 365 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,840 It's essentially existing and new 366 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,880 construction. And so I've included a 367 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,720 snip here for you all to see. We have a 368 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,400 different row, different line items. So 369 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,200 site, foundation, window and window 370 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,360 openings, doors, roofs, and then other. 371 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,880 And then when you dig into the 372 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 guidelines, you start to see that those 373 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,280 line items are tied directly to the 374 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,919 guidelines. So here we have where we 375 00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,840 talk about the work on contributing 376 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,000 buildings, the different types of 377 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,640 treatments and then we start to talk 378 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,720 about historic sites. Again, this comes 379 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,360 from directly from the secretary of the 380 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,240 interior standards. So, for example, if 381 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,240 someone wants to come and purchase 382 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,159 Alpine Bank and they want to move it, 383 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:17,360 that is not recommended or allowed per 384 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,159 the Secretary of Interior standards. So, 385 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:22,000 just trying to layer in some of those 386 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,029 parameters for historic buildings. 387 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,200 And then, you all saw this last time, 388 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,080 but just some more diagrams of how to 389 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,440 treat historic doors and entries. So you 390 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,919 can see in this diagram on the left, the 391 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:40,480 top left, we're showing the window 392 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,320 proportions, original [clears throat] 393 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,000 window openings have been reduced from 394 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,280 two single hung windows to one, but 395 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,200 we're still maintaining the same 396 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,640 proportions. And then similarly on the 397 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,880 bottom, you can see that there used to 398 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,440 be a door here, but in the process of 399 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,440 infilling it, now the proportions are 400 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,559 the same. it's just been turned into a 401 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,480 wall. So, and then on the right hand 402 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,679 side here is an example of how to treat 403 00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:15,039 historic roofs. Uh at the top, the 404 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:16,799 historic roof has not been altered. 405 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,880 That's acceptable. In the middle, 406 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,880 dormers have been added to the rear 407 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,559 elevation. That's acceptable. But what's 408 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,799 not recommended is a [clears throat] 409 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,640 front gable dormer has been added to the 410 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960 primary elevation and dominates the 411 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840 facade. So again, just thinking about 412 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,200 and showing design characteristics that 413 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,440 tie back to the historic nature of the 414 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,200 contributing or non-contributing 415 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,679 building. 416 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:46,240 And then I just wanted to show one more 417 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 example of how we're thinking about 418 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,679 what's acceptable, what's not permitted. 419 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:54,240 So you can see here on the original 420 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,919 building 421 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:59,520 uh now the alteration there's an 422 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080 appropriate awning that's been added but 423 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,919 if you see in the not permitted diagram 424 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,320 that that awning is slightly too large 425 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200 and it's covering the brick recess or 426 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720 the brick sign uh panel and then 427 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,520 similarly you can see that the original 428 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,760 cornness was kept in the acceptable 429 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,400 version but removing the cornness is not 430 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600 permitted. So again, small details that 431 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,909 uh are acceptable and nonacceptable. 432 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:33,120 So moving on in section four, this is 433 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,880 now applying to new construction and in 434 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,559 this section we are focusing on anything 435 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,840 with the site. So, compatible infill, 436 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,039 parking, landscaping, 437 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,520 um signage, what's appropriate, what's 438 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,720 not appropriate, overhangs and awnings, 439 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960 arcades and galleries, uh really 440 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,039 focusing on [clears throat] those design 441 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,120 elements that contribute to a site and 442 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,760 not necessarily the design of the 443 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,760 building. 444 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000 And then looking at the checklist again, 445 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,559 you can see that the line items directly 446 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,919 correlate with the section. So in this 447 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:14,480 checklist we have a line item for site 448 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,200 design, compatible infill, parking and 449 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600 curb cuts, landscaping, fencing and 450 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,159 overhangs. And then moving on to show 451 00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:25,360 you some of the diagrams. So here we 452 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,679 have compatible infill. This just shows 453 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,679 uh we have more diagrams but you can see 454 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:33,919 here in the diagram on the bottom where 455 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:37,200 the building that is extremely recessed 456 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840 is not allowed. And a lot of this 457 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520 overlaps with zoning, but just to show a 458 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,640 diagram of of what's expected and and 459 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,679 what will contribute to a walkable and 460 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:53,120 inviting streetscape. And then we're 461 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,640 also identifying that we prefer when the 462 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,400 facades align and also aligning with 463 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,960 zoning that there is a zero lot line. So 464 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,600 zero foot setback from the property 465 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,279 line. And then here we're showing just 466 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,480 appropriate and not appropriate awning 467 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,799 treatments. So you can see up here in 468 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,039 the top right where the awning is 469 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:18,720 covering a part of the building and 470 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960 extending past the opening. That's not 471 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 acceptable. Whereas we would prefer that 472 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840 the awning is broken up or if it's 473 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,760 extending over a piece of the building 474 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520 that that piece of the building is a max 475 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760 of 2 feet. And so these are proportions 476 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,520 and uh design elements that we've 477 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,440 studied and we came up with some of 478 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,039 these parameters for how to make more of 479 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:47,039 a salt. And then keep in mind that again 480 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,559 everything that we're talking about in 481 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,080 section four, five, and six, well six 482 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,640 could be for existing four and five are 483 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,960 for new buildings. So, anything that's 484 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,120 already existing on Midland Avenue is 485 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,120 essentially grandfathered in unless they 486 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,840 were to apply for any alterations moving 487 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,510 forward. 488 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760 And then here's another example of one 489 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,120 of our diagrams uh showing arcade 490 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,000 treatment and dimensions. So, it's 491 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,799 recommended that the arcade is 10 and 492 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,200 1/2 ft minimum. 493 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,880 um that the arcade is minimum 60% of the 494 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,360 overall length just so that it doesn't 495 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,240 feel too short. Um the bulkhead is what 496 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,159 this is called. The area under the 497 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:36,880 storefront is 18 in minimum. So again, 498 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,559 just small guard rails to help um 499 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:45,200 contribute to making more of a soul. 500 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,480 And then here is a snip from our sign 501 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,159 matrix. we start to build on what's 502 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:54,799 already in the zoning code. So we go 503 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,600 into the different types of signs. Um 504 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,720 and then so a wall or projecting that 505 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,320 layers in with what's existing into the 506 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,399 zoning code. But then we go and define a 507 00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:07,279 wall sign versus a sign band versus a 508 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,200 blade sign. Um a vinyl decal, what 509 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,679 percentage is allowed, things like that. 510 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:15,520 And then I just want to point out that 511 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240 the town of Basalt sign application must 512 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,039 be in must be completed in addition to 513 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,880 the COA checklist. So uh we already have 514 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,480 some processes in place, but this again 515 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600 builds and reinforces the zoning code 516 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,389 and what processes are already in place. 517 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:39,760 And then finally, we're at architecture, 518 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240 which is the bulk of the design 519 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640 guidelines. 520 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,559 And so here we're really digging into 521 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,000 the details. We are outlining guidelines 522 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,360 for windows, detailing, 523 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,880 um, massing and scaling, doors, building 524 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,039 entrances, roofs, and exterior 525 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,919 materiality. 526 00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:04,559 And this is uh continued in the new 527 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:06,399 construction checklist. And so you can 528 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:09,679 see those line items align with what I 529 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:12,080 just showed. So transparency, windows 530 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,159 and window openings, doors and door 531 00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:16,080 openings. 532 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,640 And then here in this column, there are 533 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,360 specific requirements. So transparency, 534 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520 there's a ground floor percentage, upper 535 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520 level percentage, and then do the 536 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,200 windows meet the proportion and size 537 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080 requirements, yes or no. And if if no, 538 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,240 the applicant would have to explain what 539 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,159 their reasoning for that is. 540 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:38,880 So here we break down some of the 541 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,799 minimums and maximums of that 542 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,440 transparency requirement. So how much 543 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,120 glazing 544 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,919 is allowed at the ground level versus on 545 00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,640 level two or level three. And here you 546 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,000 can see the basically the hatch of of 547 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,640 what that transparency should be, the 548 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,039 minimum and the maximum. And then down 549 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,880 here we [clears throat] just have some 550 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,919 simple simple equations for proportions. 551 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:06,159 Um, and it it looks a little scary, but 552 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:07,760 if you do the math, you can you can 553 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,039 actually see that there's a lot of 554 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,760 flexibility in that, but the equation 555 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,350 just allows for maintaining proportions. 556 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,200 And then roof lines. It was really 557 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,799 important for our team and we received 558 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,600 this feedback from a lot of our survey 559 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:34,320 results that the playful roof lines is very uh distinct in basalt. And so we 560 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,559 created some guidelines around how to 561 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,519 recreate that. So uh if a if there's a 562 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,000 roof plane change it has to be 12 in 563 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,640 minimum. You can see that in these 564 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720 existing buildings on Midland A. It's 565 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,760 currently 4 and 1/2 ft. Similarly, on 566 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 the other side, it's 40 in and there's a 567 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,799 12 in minimum. So, it's a guardrail. 568 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,080 It's it's very small in comparison to 569 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320 what's actually on Midland, but it just 570 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,279 ensures that we can maintain playful 571 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:07,269 roof lines. 572 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,600 And then this is pretty textheavy, but 573 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240 essentially we dig into encouraged 574 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,399 materials. So peach glow brick is um is 575 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:19,519 a vernacular material to the valley. 576 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:23,919 Novelty sighting is a material that is 577 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,440 uh 578 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,159 it's part of the uh periods of 579 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:32,320 significance. So wean Victorian and uh 580 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,480 false commercial both have no novelty 581 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,440 sighting traditionally or wood sighting. 582 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,519 However, wood sighting is prohibited in 583 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,120 accordance with an ordinance in the 584 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,519 zoning code. So exterior cladding shall 585 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,200 be composed of fire retardant and 586 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:52,240 non-combustible materials such as etc. And then uh we also have some 587 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,399 requirements around storefront windows. 588 00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:57,919 So the minimum exterior mullions must be 589 00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:01,679 1 in exterior mins must must be 3/4 of 590 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:03,679 an inch which essentially we're talking 591 00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:06,240 about what's dividing the panes of glass 592 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,679 in the storefront. And then again I had 593 00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:11,360 put this in another diagram at the 594 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840 bulkhead there's a min and a max 595 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,440 suggestion and then material materiality 596 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,159 around doors. So wood aluminum 597 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,399 storefront or proposition panelized 598 00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:27,909 design is encouraged. 599 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:30,559 And then section six is is pretty small 600 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,360 but it's very straightforward. Here we 601 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,919 are talking about just recommendations 602 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:39,039 for applicants and owners on how to make 603 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,600 their building more sustainable. So we 604 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,080 go into different types of green 605 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,399 certifications that they could pursue. 606 00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,640 And then here in this diagram, we tried 607 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360 to do an all-in-one showing what 608 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760 sustainable strategies 609 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,519 you could implement into your building 610 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,679 and how you could treat that, especially 611 00:33:57,679 --> 00:33:59,919 if it's a contributing building. So, 612 00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,880 where your solar panel array could go, 613 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,799 where your bike rack should should fall, 614 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,079 uh where awnings could be, and then uh 615 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,159 how you can control solar heat gain, 616 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,669 things like that. 617 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,599 And then finally, so review process. 618 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:18,879 This is where we talk about the 619 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,480 certificate of appropriateness 620 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,240 checklist, which we've been talking 621 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,399 about for the duration of this 622 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:28,159 presentation. But then we also have a 623 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,139 another flow diagram of when you need a 624 00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:33,679 [clears throat] COA. Um, essentially if 625 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,200 your project's located in Midland 626 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,599 Avenue, you will need to fill out the 627 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,399 checklist and submit the application. 628 00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:43,520 And then once you have an approved COA, 629 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,760 then you can proceed to site plan review 630 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040 and or building permit. And then in this 631 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,200 section, we also talk about appeals to 632 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,749 the design guidelines. So 633 00:34:52,749 --> 00:34:54,480 [clears throat] any building types that 634 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,119 may not apply such as a monumental 635 00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,680 building uh as we've discussed before 636 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920 like the library would be an example of 637 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,160 a monumental building that are typically 638 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,119 civic or institutional in nature. And 639 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,880 then there's also a few sentences about 640 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,000 a form that applicants could fill out if 641 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,040 they feel that their design should not 642 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:23,349 or does not meet the design guidelines. 643 00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:25,440 And then this was asked about on March 644 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,599 10th. So we just threw this in here, the 645 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,480 glossery of terms. So I'm sure I've said 646 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,480 a few things tonight that some of you 647 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,079 are not familiar with. Uh so if if any 648 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:37,839 of those questions come up as an 649 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:39,760 applicant is reviewing the guidelines, 650 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,440 they can uh head to section 8. And there 651 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,920 are a lot of definitions here and 652 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,520 diagrams too. 653 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,079 And then just wanted to 654 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,760 uh remind council that this uh process 655 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560 was very extensive with the community. 656 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,720 Um we hosted two open houses. We were 657 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:04,640 consistently posting on Let's Talk the 658 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,480 Salt for those that were unable to 659 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,960 attend our in-person sessions. We met 660 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,680 with planning and zoning and we also 661 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,839 attended the farmers market to get the 662 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,599 word out about the project at the 663 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,160 beginning. So, we've gotten extensive 664 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,640 feedback from the community and from 665 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,720 town planning staff. Uh, and we feel 666 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,200 very strong that this has been a 667 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000 community centered approach from the 668 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,720 beginning. 669 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,640 And then you all saw this on March 10th, 670 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,359 but this just gives you a timeline of of 671 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:39,920 how we got here. So, we were at the 672 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,560 farmers market. We conducted a survey. 673 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,880 Then we came up with the first draft 674 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,720 which we presented at the open house 675 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,480 number one. We had draft number one ords 676 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,720 that were posted on let's talk basalt. 677 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,680 Then we revised and came back with draft 678 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680 number two. 679 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,680 We presented draft number two to 680 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,160 planning and zoning commission as well 681 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,880 as the second openhouse. And then we 682 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480 took all of that feedback and compiled 683 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200 the we had two versions of draft number 684 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,800 three because we also got some feedback 685 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000 on let's talk the soul and some of the 686 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,960 commissioners gave us feedback as well. 687 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,359 And then uh that brings us to the PNZ 688 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:24,960 commission recommendation to council on 689 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,599 February 17th. We uh continue to work on 690 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:31,520 the draft that was up on Let's Talk the 691 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,680 Salt. And then we now have the final 692 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160 draft which all of the diagrams and all 693 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,079 the information that you saw tonight is 694 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,680 part of that final draft. And then uh 695 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480 you all saw me on March 10th and here we 696 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,790 are on April 14th. 697 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,640 So the next steps have not changed. Um I 698 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,880 look forward to discussing. Um sorry I 699 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,720 took a little bit longer but hopefully 700 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,119 we have some good time to answer any 701 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,520 questions or concerns that you may have. 702 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,040 Um otherwise the next step remains the 703 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040 same. Team is requesting a resolution 704 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,599 for adoption at a future meeting and 705 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,599 I'll open it up to the floor for 706 00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:12,240 questions. 707 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,000 >> Thanks Jessica. Every time we go through 708 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,800 this I learn something uh new in this in 709 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,560 this space. So appreciate it. What 710 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,790 questions or comments do you all have? 711 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,160 » Well I wanted to make a comment 712 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520 that goes way way back. 713 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,200 I've been on turn that way. 714 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,560 >> I've been on planning commission for a 715 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,079 while now and I participated in three 716 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,760 master plans chairing two of them and 717 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,800 every single one the the subject of 718 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,480 small town character or community 719 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,440 character was the major subject to 720 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440 everyone in every public outreach from 721 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,160 the very beginning and everything that 722 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,560 people complain about for every large 723 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,200 project we have ever seen downtown or 724 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,640 not. And so, um, you know, with with the 725 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040 that being of such a high importance to 726 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,079 the electorate at large and the citizen 727 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,440 body at large, um, there has been in the 728 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,960 past a lot of pressure for the town to 729 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,079 institute design review boards, 730 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,560 which having worked in development for 731 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960 in mountain towns for 30 years, those 732 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,280 are just a nightmare to deal with. and 733 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,320 they can and sometimes do get co-opted 734 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,480 in in strange and funny ways. And um 735 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,320 Aspen does it, Tellelurai does it, 736 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,680 Mammoth Lakes does it, and I've dealt 737 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,079 with all of those boards. And they 738 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,240 aren't they don't really function as 739 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,839 intended, but people feel like, oh, 740 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:44,320 they're there doing their thing, but um 741 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,960 they make development really really 742 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,320 painful and you get results that the 743 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,119 community doesn't necessarily like and 744 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,520 it's more impedimented to the process. 745 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,760 But the thing about this design review 746 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,880 guidelines that I as an architect 747 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880 working in the community for a long time 748 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,800 have felt would be is useful is it's 749 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200 very prescriptive. You can look at it 750 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,200 and know what you can do, what you can't 751 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,520 do. It's been through a rigorous public 752 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,079 process, so it's very defensible. 753 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:18,079 It is is it always the best design? No. 754 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,920 Is it a pain in the ass? Yeah. But um 755 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,599 for a lot of people coming here, they 756 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,200 come here for downtown and we even have 757 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,960 a similar process in Willlets. It's 758 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,480 different because Willlets is different, 759 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800 but you know, it's it's I think it's 760 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,280 really useful and it's very 761 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,520 it's simpler than it seems for the staff 762 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,079 to administer and it's simpler for 763 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,240 uh the planning commission to deal with 764 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,400 because you have prescriptive rules just 765 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920 like with the with our master plan. um 766 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,200 is very clear what we wanted and it's 767 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,760 very easy to judge a project before us 768 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,000 based upon those criteria and those 769 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,440 criteria are all vetted by the 770 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,440 community. So it you have something to 771 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,200 stand on. So that's why you know for us 772 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,079 as a board this is a very useful tool. 773 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,079 >> Thank you for your comments. Yeah, I 774 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,760 tend to agree. It's you want something 775 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520 that's going to define and help people. 776 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,720 But if it's too constrictive and not 777 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,240 just prescriptive, but you know 778 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,079 constricts people their ability to get 779 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,000 things done and makes it painful, then 780 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,480 >> yeah, 781 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,319 >> why you know that's not that's not what 782 00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,160 we want to do. And I I agree. I don't 783 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,280 think this does that. 784 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,880 >> And design review boards can be fairly 785 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,400 capriccious. 786 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,400 >> You know, um HBC and Aspen can be a real 787 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,880 pain in the ass. And this wouldn't be 788 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,160 like that. that you know it's not like 789 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,000 you're going in front of a board who you 790 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,760 know may like dislike you for other 791 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,713 reasons or you know Clark and 792 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:48,079 [clears throat] Tellyide which has 793 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,640 political concerns and you know or 794 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,400 Mammoth Lakes kind of backed off of 795 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,359 theirs and went more to a prescriptive 796 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:59,040 planning uh department-based process as 797 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160 opposed to a board which you know I had 798 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,440 been in front of that board a number of 799 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,720 times and you couldn't figure out what 800 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:10,640 they wanted. So that that's why this is useful. 801 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,800 What else? What other thoughts and 802 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,359 comments with this? 803 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:17,440 >> Well, I you know, Bill's touched on a 804 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,720 lot of things I was going to say. I 805 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,880 think that small town character has 806 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,200 always been a negotiation 807 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,280 at every level, and people have 808 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,160 different definitions of what that is. 809 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,640 For me, it's uh 810 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,040 in especially with Midland Avenue, it's 811 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,000 the scale, it's the simpleness, it's the 812 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,680 organic nature of it. it's well 813 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,119 balanced. um you know and and it stayed 814 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,520 that way for a long time and then in the 815 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,359 last 10 years it you know the changes 816 00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:50,240 have accelerated significantly and some 817 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,520 of them were 818 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,680 you know took a long time to resolve you 819 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,359 know and and I'm not talking about the 820 00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:58,880 replacement of the infrastructure and 821 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,319 things like that but just other things 822 00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:01,760 that were [laughter] built on top of 823 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,319 that that started to enhance or 824 00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:07,680 potentially detract from what was a 825 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,599 quintessent ential description, you 826 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,920 know, of a mountain town or described as 827 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,400 quintessential. I think that 828 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040 um it's a multi-generational 829 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,280 downtown and it's taken 125 years to get 830 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,920 to where it is and the last 20 have 831 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,520 probably been the most challenging I 832 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,119 would say. But the success of 833 00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,119 recognizing the importance of downtown 834 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,119 Midland and the confluence of the rivers 835 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,680 and fighting hard to keep the post 836 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,760 office a gathering place. You know, 837 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960 someone mentioned that 838 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,480 you'd say, "Well, we'd meet at the post 839 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,800 office." People are saying now, "Well, 840 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,280 we'll meet at the statue of this." So, 841 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,880 but I so I think there's a transition 842 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,079 that we see that could commercialize it 843 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,720 more than it needs to be and keep that 844 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,640 same feeling that it's a place you 845 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,480 return to and that you do it mult, you 846 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,680 know, multiple times over your life. Um, 847 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,839 we don't yet know what the full-time 848 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:07,839 occupancy of the building across the 849 00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:10,160 street's going to bring. So, you know, 850 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,119 what's next with that? I really think 851 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,760 too that on the technical side, those 852 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,720 are all tactical type conversations. I 853 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,240 think the construction impacts um really 854 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,040 have to be part of that checklist. 855 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000 You know, construction management plans, 856 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:34,240 schedules, um planning, notifications, 857 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,839 uh 858 00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:38,000 you know, oversight, 859 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640 management of those things to tear down 860 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,119 and replace. You mentioned foundations, 861 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,200 there's a groundwater issue here on the 862 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,319 street. Um, things like that that you 863 00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:51,599 know below grade construction, 864 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:53,280 all that stuff gets to be very 865 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000 complicated in a core like this. So, I 866 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,440 think that's got to be taken into 867 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,319 consideration and maybe P&Z can bring 868 00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:02,640 some expertise to the table with someone 869 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,520 that could advise on that. Uh but other 870 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,520 than that, if we can keep it low impact, 871 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,200 organic, 872 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,839 balanced in a way that doesn't overwhelm 873 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:14,160 one thing or the other, the spaces that 874 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,880 are open now, the alleys, all the little 875 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,240 funky places need to be maintained, 876 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,640 stuff like that. 877 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,710 >> Thanks, Rick. 878 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,359 This is a very minute thing, but I grew 879 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:33,680 up in a historic district in a historic 880 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,280 house, and the thing that my parents 881 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,599 always complained about was the single 882 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,480 pane windows and not being able to 883 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,800 upgrade to a double pane window. And I 884 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440 saw in section six it says you should 885 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,760 maintain the original window. And I'm 886 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,520 all for original window shape, size, 887 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,400 vibe. Um, but if someone wants to update 888 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,480 the actual window in there, I I would 889 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560 feel fine about that. 890 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,960 >> Can you comment on that? Is that 891 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,480 >> My understanding is that would be the 892 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,240 wood and the frame and not the actual 893 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:08,240 glass. The glass could be it could be 894 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,026 rebuilt, so to speak, but I don't 895 00:46:10,026 --> 00:46:11,440 [clears throat and cough] know 896 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,280 >> exactly. So, because those historic 897 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,720 buildings are technically not 898 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:20,000 registered, you could very well replace 899 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,960 all of the windows. um if a building if 900 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,319 a contributing building is on the 901 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,200 national register then it's it is very 902 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,599 difficult to get away from the single 903 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,800 pane window but um and maybe I should 904 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,119 revisit the section 66 fix language 905 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:36,560 because that is our sustainability 906 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,760 section where upgrading to an energy 907 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,800 efficient envelope would be encouraged 908 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,599 and so uh yeah the the guidelines 909 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,160 honestly this is the the perfect 910 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,800 application of having a historic quote 911 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,359 unquote building, but also being able to 912 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:56,480 upgrade it to more quote unquote modern 913 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,589 systems and energy efficiencies. 914 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:03,040 » That's a good call. 915 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,760 >> Yeah. 916 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560 >> Anything else like that that we need to 917 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,480 kind of make sure we got baked into this 918 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,550 before it comes back for resolution. 919 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,119 » All right. 920 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,839 >> Well, um it's 5:46 and now we have our 921 00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:19,119 regular meeting. 922 00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:20,720 >> Yes. This is I didn't know if you wanted 923 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,240 to do this. I just did see some people 924 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,440 in the audience. I don't know if you 925 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,440 wanted to invite have any public comment 926 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,720 or anything on this on the Yeah, if you 927 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:29,359 wanted to. 928 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:31,280 >> So, yeah, Laura, I know we've had others 929 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,040 come in since, but Laura, if you have 930 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,160 anything, 931 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,359 >> you know, 932 00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:41,670 >> feel free to come up to the mic. 933 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,640 » Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, sure. 934 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,680 >> Thank you. I appreciate being able to 935 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,119 sit in and listen to um this, I guess. 936 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:51,440 My question remains 937 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,440 whether we're dealing with historical or 938 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,880 design wish list. And sometimes I think 939 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,040 that they get 940 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,160 um mixed in together. 941 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,520 So I guess my concern is 942 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,079 the purpose of this document, this 943 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,760 overlay. 944 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,839 Is it historical? Is it design wish 945 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:21,910 list? Is it both? I don't know. Um 946 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,640 I I will say I don't think there's been 947 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,839 rigorous community input. 948 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:30,480 Um I've had to 949 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,119 proactively find out where meetings are 950 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,599 to find the information. You know, it it 951 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,359 I went to a meeting, the second meeting, 952 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:40,720 there were four people there from the 953 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:46,319 community. Um so that's my observation. 954 00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:48,400 Um, 955 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,960 and then my final one again since you 956 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,200 asked is, um, 957 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,559 and I know it's been explained to me a 958 00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,160 few times, but how an overview overlay 959 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,280 guideline, how what the relationship 960 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,160 specifically is to the C2 zoning. So, if 961 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,400 someone's asking, 962 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,800 I want to do something that it's been 963 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,800 zoned for, 964 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,960 which comes first, I guess, or 965 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,880 >> like the use or the uh or the I don't 966 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,839 know that's like might be a planner 967 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:24,079 question to answer but 968 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,280 >> yeah so so the these guidelines were 969 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,920 designed with the zoning in mind and are 970 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480 compatible with the the C2 zoning as 971 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,079 well um so that includes uses any kind 972 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,720 of standards like setbacks 973 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:39,280 um 974 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,440 >> so this doesn't 975 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,520 infringe on the C2 976 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,000 >> that's that's correct Okay. 977 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,839 >> Um 978 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:48,960 those are my comments. Thank you for 979 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,359 your time. 980 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:51,680 >> Can you comment on the uh the design 981 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000 wish list versus um 982 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640 >> yeah so so these guidelines similar to 983 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,720 our housing uh guidelines uh are a town 984 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,000 regulation. Um but it's not zoning code. 985 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,720 Those two things are legally separate 986 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,960 and Jeff could probably expound upon 987 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,720 those at length um if you guys need. But 988 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,720 uh so it it is a town regulation and 989 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:20,000 applicants uh for development in the 990 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,960 town who qualify 991 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,079 by being in the Midland Avenue District 992 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,760 will be required to provide um 993 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,079 documentation through the COA form that 994 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:35,040 Jessica prov uh you know touched on and 995 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,559 is provided as a part of the packet 996 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:40,079 materials um for redevelopment 997 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,160 um within the Midland land avenue 998 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,680 district. 999 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,079 Uh, does that answer your question? 1000 00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:49,280 >> That for me it does. Laura, I mean hard 1001 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,119 >> more or less. I I um 1002 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:57,030 >> Can you come back up? Sorry. 1003 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,160 » The COA is an interesting thing to me. 1004 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,680 Um, and I just ask that you look at that 1005 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,960 closely. Um, 1006 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,040 yeah, but I I I got what you're saying. 1007 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,599 But the the COA I read that and I was I 1008 00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,400 don't know just take a look at it. 1009 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,000 >> I I have one real quick quick 1010 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,760 hypothetical then I think that's going 1011 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160 to probably Laura's question and concern 1012 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,559 is that let's say someone bought 1013 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:24,880 Temperno wants to build a whole new 1014 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,760 building. It has to fit into these 1015 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,920 guidelines. Correct? Because it's late 1016 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,240 in the zone district. Yet the building 1017 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:36,400 next door is from 1980 and completely 1018 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,480 different. And so if if someone came and touched on a handful of these, maybe 1019 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,559 it's not everything, 1020 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,920 then does that supersede 1021 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,880 does this supersede the the general 1022 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,359 building guidelines that if it if it 1023 00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:54,960 doesn't if it doesn't have the perfect 1024 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,920 brick front and a door in this way and 1025 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,800 the window in this way and a certain 1026 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,880 awning, 1027 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,480 does that mean that they have to go back 1028 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,040 and check everything in these 1029 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,240 guidelines. 1030 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:12,319 >> So, I I I see this as like a two-part 1031 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:15,520 question here. So, the the one answer 1032 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,079 would be that if it's a if it's new 1033 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,559 construction that it follows the new 1034 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,680 construction section of this. If it's 1035 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,760 redevelopment of an existing building 1036 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,559 such as Temperno, it would follow the redevelopment 1037 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,359 section of the design guidelines. In 1038 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:37,200 regard to the buildings that were 1039 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000 constructed before these guidelines were 1040 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480 uh established, which you know there are 1041 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,640 a lot of buildings um on Midland that 1042 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,880 are similar to what you're referring to 1043 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,359 that late 20th century architecture. Um 1044 00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:59,359 those are not going to be required. you can't require folks to go back and 1045 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:03,280 institute architectural elements to a 1046 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440 building that is non-contributing. 1047 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,599 And so Jessica touched on that a little 1048 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,000 bit, but the contributing buildings have 1049 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,119 a different standard uh for replacement. 1050 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:14,640 So you're not going to be required to go 1051 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,000 back and uh put in V Victorian elements 1052 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,480 to a building that was built in 1985. 1053 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,079 >> But then that so then this would 1054 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,480 supersede just a C2C zoning. This is 1055 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,880 like redirecting the zoning is kind of 1056 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,480 what she's asking like 1057 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,400 >> Ryan [clears throat] actually zoning 1058 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,599 applies. So zoning is really dimensional 1059 00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:35,200 requirements and uses, right? 1060 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:35,760 >> Y 1061 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,319 >> so the dimensional requirements and uses 1062 00:53:38,319 --> 00:53:40,880 are are limitations in zoning that that 1063 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,839 would apply to a new project that would 1064 00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:47,040 apply to improvements to an existing 1065 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,119 project, an expansion to or other 1066 00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:55,200 property that's existing. Um, you also 1067 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,640 have the guidelines which the guidelines 1068 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,359 have certain requirements in them and 1069 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:05,119 there's a waiver process that if if 1070 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:06,960 certain requirements 1071 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,599 don't fit the historic nature of the 1072 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,800 building which Tempo and some of the 1073 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,680 other properties on Midland Avenue are 1074 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,079 designated historic through our local 1075 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:21,599 historic designation program. um they 1076 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,280 have to be the improvements would have 1077 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,319 to be compatible with the existing 1078 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:29,200 >> character and nature of the structure 1079 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,680 >> but it's an it's an added layer 1080 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,400 >> sure 1081 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,359 >> of restriction to a building that's 1082 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:36,960 designated in this map 1083 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,079 >> correct 1084 00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,640 >> that that's the answer Lauren's looking 1085 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:40,960 for 1086 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,960 >> it doesn't change the zoning zoning but 1087 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,359 that building is going to have to fit in 1088 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,520 if I'm going to redevelop temperno right 1089 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,400 now Yes, 1090 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,559 >> it has to fit in to everything on this 1091 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:53,680 checklist. E 1092 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,480 >> either that or get a waiver and and so 1093 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,000 >> so there is a waiver process. 1094 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,720 >> There is a waiver process and and 1095 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,400 >> you know for Temperno which is a 1096 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,800 historic building and and fits into one 1097 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,920 of the timelines that that was 1098 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,480 established in the guidelines. We 1099 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,119 wouldn't be looking to you know 1100 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,319 requiring brick on tempo which 1101 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:18,319 >> wouldn't fit with the time period. But 1102 00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:19,520 let's say you're going to scrape 1103 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,400 temperno. 1104 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:20,800 >> Yeah. 1105 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,559 >> Right. And take advantage of the lot, 1106 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:23,040 >> right? 1107 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:23,839 >> Yeah, you can. 1108 00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:24,559 >> Yeah, we can. 1109 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:25,839 >> Yeah, you could do whatever you want. 1110 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,559 It's the C2C. This doesn't protect the 1111 00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:29,440 building. 1112 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,599 >> No, but we have historic protections 1113 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:33,920 through our historic designation and 1114 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,319 certain properties including Temperno 1115 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:38,720 are historically designated under the 1116 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:39,680 current code. 1117 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,359 >> That that's separate from these design 1118 00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:42,960 guidelines. 1119 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,480 My only point and what I think you're 1120 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,920 saying is that you're adding more 1121 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,119 restriction on certain buildings 1122 00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:53,359 um 1123 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:54,640 >> certain buildings get it and certain 1124 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,640 buildings don't in this overlay. We're shooting we're hoping for 1125 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,480 >> and so character. 1126 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,200 >> Yeah. So what 1127 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,119 >> honestly what do you what do you provide 1128 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:06,559 for the building owner 1129 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:09,280 >> to give that up? Well, and and actually 1130 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,319 just as clarification, all buildings get 1131 00:56:12,319 --> 00:56:14,480 additional design guidelines. So, it's 1132 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,880 not just historic buildings. It's not 1133 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,280 just certain buildings. These design 1134 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,760 guidelines apply to all buildings in the 1135 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,349 district 1136 00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:27,680 or would would apply if adopted. 1137 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,920 >> And thank you for the feedback on the uh 1138 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,839 on the communication process, Laura. 1139 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:36,559 We'll we'll talk about 1140 00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:40,079 >> All right. Well, it's 5:55. We got a lot 1141 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:41,200 of people out there that you guys can 1142 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,280 hear for some of the agenda items coming 1143 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,559 up, which will be pretty exciting. Thank 1144 00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,720 you, Carlton, 1145 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,000 and Jessica and James for uh leading us 1146 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,440 through this. This was helpful. And 1147 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,680 looking forward to and Bill for for 1148 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,760 being here. Appreciate it. And all of 1149 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,240 you, it's good to see you. And we'll 1150 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,400 take a quick break and be back uh just 1151 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,240 after 6. Thanks a lot. 1152 00:57:04,240 --> 01:11:37,270 Oh my god. 1153 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,880 Good evening and welcome back to uh 1154 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,800 Basalt Town Council. It's Tuesday, April 1155 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,800 14th. Uh we're going to go into our 1156 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,120 regular meeting now in a moment. Uh 1157 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,640 earlier tonight, we had a work session 1158 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,040 on the Midland design guidelines. That's 1159 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,760 completed now. And uh just really quick 1160 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,920 before we get going, I always give the 1161 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,840 announcement about how to join on Zoom. 1162 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,360 If you're interested in that, you can go 1163 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,920 to basalt.net, look at the agendas and 1164 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,199 minutes and uh find the April 14th and 1165 01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:05,440 the link instructions are all in there. 1166 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,000 Um I'm going to go ahead and call the 1167 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,679 meeting to order and Pam, would you 1168 01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:10,719 please call the role? 1169 01:12:10,719 --> 01:12:12,400 >> Absolutely. Let's begin with Deer 1170 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,040 Schindler 1171 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,600 >> here. 1172 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,679 >> Angela Anderson, 1173 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:16,880 >> Rick Stevens 1174 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,520 >> here. 1175 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,960 >> Hannah Berman 1176 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:19,920 >> here. 1177 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,640 also her honel dupart 1178 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,120 >> here. 1179 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,000 >> Ryan Slack 1180 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:24,239 >> here 1181 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:25,440 >> and David Knight 1182 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:26,000 >> here. 1183 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:26,960 >> Thank you. 1184 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,320 >> Yeah, thank you. They both 1185 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,640 >> All right. Um, next up on the agenda is 1186 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:31,920 the consent agenda, but I'm going to 1187 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,600 propose we uh modify this slightly. We 1188 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,560 are going to do items uh if everyone's 1189 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,480 amendable to this item 6A and 6B next 1190 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:44,880 before the consent agenda. Um, we have a 1191 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,719 lot of folks here for that. Um, we're 1192 01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:50,080 going to do 6A in the room here. Um, the 1193 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,239 proclamation recognizing Tim Goodwin of 1194 01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:55,199 Timbos. And then 6B is the proclamation 1195 01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,280 recognizing Basalt High School coach 1196 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,960 Carl Freric's. We're going to do that as 1197 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,080 well, but we're going to take that 1198 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,880 outside once we get done with, um, the 1199 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,679 proclamation for Tim. So, um, we're 1200 01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:07,679 going to go ahead and do those. So, uh, 1201 01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:10,000 item 6A, proclamation recognizing Tim 1202 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,239 Goodwood from Timbo's Pizza. And uh 1203 01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:14,800 Robbie uh you can come up here and uh 1204 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,640 speak there or at the table. 1205 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,199 >> Uh Basalt is so fortunate to have Tim 1206 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,199 Goodwin and his family as a part of this 1207 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:24,800 community for the past 29 years. Tim 1208 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,040 needs no introduction, but here is Tim 1209 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,510 Goodwin. 1210 01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:34,070 [applause] 1211 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,960 Um I guess I'm sort of flabbergasted. It 1212 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,120 was quite the surprise of an honor and 1213 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,080 I'm just glad to be one of the citizens 1214 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,120 of town and I grew up in Carbondale and 1215 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,600 started at Pipinos when it was a Papinos 1216 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,800 here. So I've been in that building for 1217 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,800 40 years and watching kids and families 1218 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,000 grow up here has just been a real 1219 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,600 special honor and thanks for uh thanking 1220 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:56,560 me I guess. 1221 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,000 >> Yeah. Well, thanks for for doing what 1222 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,239 you do. I know um I have an 11-year-old. 1223 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,560 Our kids go over there and hang out. You 1224 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,040 know, it's a always a place to go if you 1225 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,000 want to get a slice. said, "I'm a 1226 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,156 progressive rock fan as well." 1227 01:14:08,156 --> 01:14:08,719 [laughter] 1228 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:09,360 >> Nice. 1229 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,960 >> So, I mean, I go in there and it reminds 1230 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,360 me of uh my high school years with the 1231 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,960 Rush and you you got even the deeper 1232 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,800 cuts in there at times, the Dream 1233 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,679 Theater. What? 1234 01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:18,480 >> Yep. Exactly. 1235 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:22,560 >> What? So, uh No, it's pretty cool what you've got going there. And you 1236 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,480 know, just thank you for being a part of 1237 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,040 this community for so long. We have a 1238 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,600 proclamation for you that um we'll go 1239 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,360 ahead and read it and pass it around. 1240 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,320 Everybody will read a different 1241 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,679 paragraph. So um a proclamation honoring 1242 01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:37,760 community service in the town of Basalt. 1243 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,520 So whereas the town of Basalt 1244 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,960 acknowledges that the performance of 1245 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,520 government and other social institutions 1246 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,600 is powerfully influenced by citizen 1247 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,840 engagement in community affairs. And 1248 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,320 >> whereas individual citizens and citizen 1249 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,239 networks working for the common good of 1250 01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,159 the community are part of special 1251 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:59,120 character of the town of Basalt. And 1252 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,080 keep going down. 1253 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,320 >> Yeah. 1254 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,640 This is a big paragraph, so 1255 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,719 >> you got the big one, Rick. [laughter] 1256 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:07,679 >> I planned it that way. 1257 01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:09,520 >> Lot of responsibility. 1258 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,600 >> Tim Goodwin and family members Julian, 1259 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,199 Jason, and Jesse have long been more 1260 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,280 than just the owners of our beloved 1261 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,080 Timbos Pizza. Tim has served as a 1262 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,120 steadfast pillar of our community. 1263 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,320 You are right there. Timbos is more than 1264 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,239 a place to eat for those fortunate 1265 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,800 enough to enjoy his triedand-true 1266 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,960 recipes. It is a place for students to 1267 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,199 gather and adults to run into friends. A 1268 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,760 hot spot for delicious food, good music, 1269 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,920 positivity, friendships, and a place 1270 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,640 where the spirit of Basalt comes alive. 1271 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,080 >> You want me to just keep rocking? 1272 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,360 >> Sure. 1273 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,159 >> Take us home. 1274 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:45,600 >> With the [laughter] yearbooks lining the 1275 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,600 walls and photos of the sports teams he 1276 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,520 has sponsored tell quite a story better 1277 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,159 than words ever could. Each one a 1278 01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,400 testament to the lives that have 1279 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,480 intersected with those doors and they 1280 01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:59,199 support freely given and the support 1281 01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,679 given freely to all who enter. It may 1282 01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:03,520 take a village to raise a child but it 1283 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,960 takes a pizza joint to raise a 1284 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,022 community. [laughter] 1285 01:16:08,022 --> 01:16:12,950 [applause] 1286 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,320 Therefore, 1287 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,320 >> what's that? Therefore, 1288 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,640 >> therefore, we the Bassalt Town Council 1289 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,040 proclaim that on this 14th day of April, 1290 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,239 2026, the town of Basalt is a far far 1291 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:26,560 better place by the role model and good 1292 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,120 deeds of Tim Goodwin and family. So, 1293 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:43,189 well done. [applause] 1294 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:47,189 All right. 1295 01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:47,920 outside. 1296 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,840 >> All right. Well, next up we have and 1297 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,120 we're going to after I read this, we're 1298 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,360 going to go outside, but item 6B is a 1299 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,840 proclamation recognizing Basalt High 1300 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,880 School coach Carl Freric. And uh we're 1301 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,640 going to go ahead and go outside out 1302 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,800 here because there's a crowd out there 1303 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,640 for that. So, you're all welcome to come 1304 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:10,149 on out. 1305 01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:20,310 » Okay. 1306 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,440 I just need to stand up. 1307 01:17:23,440 --> 01:30:22,629 >> Still still not in yet. 1308 01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:24,320 All right, welcome back. We are back 1309 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,639 inside from our uh have done our two 1310 01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:29,440 proclamations for the evening. Um but 1311 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:32,000 stay tuned. There's more. Uh next up is 1312 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,239 our consent agenda item two and I'm 1313 01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:35,760 going to read a laundry list of things 1314 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,360 that are on that. If anybody wants to 1315 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:38,800 pull anything off, let me know at the 1316 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,440 end. Item 2A is resolution number 17 1317 01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:43,920 series of 2026. Resolution of the town 1318 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,520 council of Basalt, Colorado approving 1319 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,480 the 2026 streets m streets maintenance 1320 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:50,480 chip seal project and authorizing staff 1321 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:53,760 to enter into contract with GMCO LLC. 1322 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,080 Item 2B is to continue to April 28th, 1323 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,000 2026 public hearing and introduction 1324 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,800 meeting 555 Basalt Avenue development 1325 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,040 application for special review PUD 1326 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,880 amendments and associated development 1327 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,280 review actions for 54 commercial storage 1328 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,480 units and 47 residential units. Item 2 C 1329 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:13,199 is an Arbor Day proclamation. Item 2D is 1330 01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:16,159 resolution number 18 series of 2026 1331 01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:17,760 resolution to the town council of Basalt 1332 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,159 Colorado granting approval for the 2026 1333 01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:22,800 Basalt Sunday market on Midland Spur in 1334 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,600 Lions Park in downtown Basalt 2E 1335 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,719 resolution 19 series of 2026 resolution 1336 01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:30,320 the town council of Basalt Colorado 1337 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:31,440 ratifying and approving an 1338 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,120 intergovernmental agreement for the 1339 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,960 operation administration and financial 1340 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,960 support of the picking county regional 1341 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,520 emergency dispatch center 2F is a 1342 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,360 reappointment of basalt public arts 1343 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,199 commission member mber reappointment of 1344 01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:45,199 Liz Bell to the BPAC for a three-year 1345 01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:49,040 term to expire April 14th, 2029. And 1346 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,600 last, item 2G, special event activity 1347 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,600 permit, food truck at 72 Sunset Drive. I 1348 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,920 would entertain a motion to approve the 1349 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,679 consent agenda items as presented. 1350 01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:03,440 >> Mayor, I move that the town council 1351 01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:05,600 approve the consent agenda items as 1352 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,480 presented. 1353 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:07,600 >> Second. 1354 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,520 >> It's been moved and seconded. All those 1355 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,520 in favor, please signify by saying I. 1356 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:12,800 Hi. 1357 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,520 >> Hi. Thank you. Um, next up we have our 1358 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,040 item three, which is the call to the 1359 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,480 public. Uh, just a reminder on this, um, 1360 01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:22,639 if you, uh, are going to speak, you have 1361 01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,480 three minutes, and you can address your 1362 01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:26,400 comments directly to me. Uh, make sure 1363 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,239 you identify yourself by name and 1364 01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:29,840 address and sign in the back of the 1365 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,840 room. Comments should be courteous, 1366 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,920 civil, and constructive. Um, town 1367 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,520 council will make no decision or take 1368 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,360 action except to direct the town 1369 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,000 manager. And, uh, we're going to have 1370 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,679 our timer set up. up and this is the 1371 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:46,320 last timing maybe 1372 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,390 >> I ever have to do 1373 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,760 » there is so uh if anyone wants 1374 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,719 >> anyone wants to come up to the podium 1375 01:32:56,719 --> 01:32:58,080 floor's open 1376 01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,920 >> hi 1377 01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:00,800 >> you can start 1378 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,280 >> okay hi I'm Stacy Stokes and hopefully I 1379 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,560 won't be here for the next couple of 1380 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,040 months because I'll be out of town but I 1381 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,239 am here because a few years ago we moved 1382 01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:13,440 to a property that is on Few Lane. It's 1383 01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:15,840 a very dangerous street. It's not even a 1384 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,480 street. It's an alley. And I'm starting 1385 01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,840 to lose my mind because the accidents 1386 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,840 that I see waiting to happen are 1387 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,480 horrible. Um, regardless, I want to put 1388 01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:28,320 a few requests out there to you. I can 1389 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,080 follow up with an email. I've spoken to 1390 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,800 a few neighbors. But we need a slow 1391 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,120 children plane sign. We can't have 1392 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,040 little green men that fall down in the 1393 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,600 wind. They don't do any good. We need an 1394 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,840 absolute sign saying we've got kids 1395 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,400 playing. We need a speed limit sign 1396 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,960 saying 15 miles an hour. We need a 1397 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,199 street sign that says we are East View 1398 01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:50,880 Lane because people drive around in 1399 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,880 circles trying to find East View Lane 1400 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,239 because we look like Basalt Avenue. Uh 1401 01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:58,719 we need a stop sign at the end of Few 1402 01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:00,800 Lane in Alexander where people fly right 1403 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,840 through. And let's see, the other thing 1404 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,520 is we I would like to see the straight 1405 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,600 at some point be made one way with a 1406 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,880 nice big 5-ft bike and safe pedestrian 1407 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,000 path that then can be used as emergency 1408 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,280 access within minutes if need be. Um 1409 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,800 because on to I mean I just feel like we 1410 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,480 need to be have a progressive vision 1411 01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:24,400 about what we need to do with this road 1412 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,719 because it's scary and it's horrible and 1413 01:34:26,719 --> 01:34:28,400 I I tell people all the time to slow 1414 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,600 down. And I'm probably like known of the 1415 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,360 pitch of F Lane by now because I walk 1416 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,600 there. But I'm scared about Mayor 1417 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,360 Wolfer's kids. I'm scared. She's scared. 1418 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,800 You know she's scared. She's talked to 1419 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,040 you. And unfortunately, people have lost 1420 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,360 the decorum to take good care of each 1421 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,320 other. On to 1422 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,080 the road that was supposed to be by big 1423 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,639 O. I'm going to implore you yet again to 1424 01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:53,040 get with Picking County. Get with the 1425 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,320 state. Get with your people here. We've 1426 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,000 got to get another access in and out of 1427 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,960 Southside and Stosmill. You have to 1428 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,120 You've You've approved all this dense 1429 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,520 development thinking that was going to 1430 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,520 be there. It's not fair to those 1431 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,320 residents. That's grass up there. They 1432 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,560 don't have time to get out. For where I 1433 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,560 live, I can run to the river. They 1434 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,360 can't. And I guarantee you, if they got 1435 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,000 some sort of information with some evac 1436 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,239 plan that only has one way in and one 1437 01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:24,639 way out, they might be in this meeting, 1438 01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:26,880 too. asking you to put the road in that 1439 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,280 you were supposed to put in and we have 1440 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,520 to find the money to keep the residents 1441 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,840 over there safe or everything needs to 1442 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,679 stop before somebody dies and it's going 1443 01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:38,880 to be a lot of people if it happens. So 1444 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:43,040 that's um that's all that I have to say 1445 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,760 and I will stop talking at some point 1446 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,080 about this but I think my points are 1447 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,480 valid. I think they're very important 1448 01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:51,920 and I don't think people pay enough 1449 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,920 attention because like I said last time, 1450 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,520 they just want a home to raise their 1451 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,320 family in Stats Mill, but they need to 1452 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,880 be safe at the same time. Thank you all. 1453 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:01,280 >> Thank you, 1454 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,280 >> Stacey, for your comments. 1455 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:07,350 >> Perfect timing, too. 1456 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:08,320 » Look at that. 1457 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,000 >> Yeah, use the whole three minutes. All 1458 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:10,800 right. Uh, 1459 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,080 >> speak. 1460 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,080 >> Anyone else? Anyone else like to come up 1461 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,229 and speak for public comment? 1462 01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:22,950 All right. Anybody online? 1463 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,960 » I don't see anybody raising their hand. 1464 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,920 So, going to move on to uh mayor and 1465 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,629 council reports and comments. 1466 01:36:32,639 --> 01:36:34,400 » Well, I'm going to start real quick 1467 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:35,840 because this is probably one of the last 1468 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,960 times I can do this, but I would like to 1469 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,840 thank the police force. Um, you guys 1470 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,440 have done an amazing job over this last 1471 01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:48,800 year, two years. Um, I just can't thank 1472 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,360 you guys enough. 1473 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,400 >> So, and then also Jordan left, but 1474 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,040 public works. Um, they had a big water 1475 01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,000 valve change last week, two weeks ago, 1476 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,679 and uh, I went over talked to one of the 1477 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,080 guys. Just can't thank our public works 1478 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,760 department. Can't thank the staff. Can't 1479 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,199 thank everyone enough for this town. Um, 1480 01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:11,520 just awesome. We're lucky to have all 1481 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,320 this great stuff. 1482 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,840 >> You're here. Thanks, Ryan. 1483 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:22,229 Anyone else? 1484 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:24,960 » Um, well, I'm not I might be remote the 1485 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,159 next meeting. So, I'm going to take this 1486 01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:27,679 opportunity to say it in person. Thank 1487 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:31,280 you to Ryan and to Deer for their 1488 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,520 service. Uh, and congratulations to 1489 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,040 Angela who gets to keep her seat as well 1490 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,719 as our two new counselors uh that'll be 1491 01:37:36,719 --> 01:37:39,040 coming on board. But specifically for 1492 01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,880 tonight, um Ryan has given eight years 1493 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,040 uh to the town of assault and is only 1494 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,902 leaving because he's termed out. 1495 01:37:46,902 --> 01:37:49,189 [laughter] 1496 01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:51,760 Um and deer, you know, thank you. I 1497 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,159 think that um our police department, our 1498 01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:55,600 public works, our town staff, 1499 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,840 everything. Um, this town wouldn't be 1500 01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:58,960 the same, of course, without any of 1501 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,480 them, but it also wouldn't be the same 1502 01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:03,040 if not for people like you who give 1503 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,440 their time to do this um job, this 1504 01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:08,880 service. And so, thank you for your 1505 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,040 service. 1506 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,412 We'll miss you guys. 1507 01:38:14,412 --> 01:38:21,270 [applause] 1508 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,840 Anyone else 1509 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,480 real quick? Um, 1510 01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:27,920 you know, it's evenings like tonight 1511 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,360 where you have Tim Goodwin and Carl in 1512 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,679 here. It makes you appreciate what this 1513 01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:36,159 community is really about. And I, you 1514 01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:39,440 know, most of us don't forget that, but 1515 01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:41,679 sometimes you need a reminder. And 1516 01:38:41,679 --> 01:38:44,719 tonight was a nice reminder. So, thank 1517 01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:47,920 all you that showed up and the young men 1518 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,080 on that football team for doing what 1519 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,719 they do. And with any luck at all, 1520 01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:54,400 they'll stick around and become our 1521 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,320 future leaders. 1522 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,080 And you know, football's not the only 1523 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,800 activity that young men and young women 1524 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,440 and young people can engage in. There's 1525 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:06,719 a lot of it going on around here. And uh 1526 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:09,679 we need to support it as much as we can 1527 01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:12,560 uh everywhere we can all the time. And 1528 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,239 uh I appreciate it because that's I was 1529 01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:18,480 raised by guys like that and it makes a 1530 01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:20,159 difference. 1531 01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:22,960 So when you see him on the street, say 1532 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,440 hi. Same with these two that are 1533 01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:30,239 leaving, don't forget about him. 1534 01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:31,760 >> He's a big person. You can't forget 1535 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,840 about him. 1536 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,480 >> Thanks you guys for coming out 1537 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:39,679 everybody. Thanks, Rick. 1538 01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:42,239 >> Anyone else? 1539 01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:44,480 This community is so great and just 1540 01:39:44,480 --> 01:39:46,560 nights like tonight remind me that there 1541 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,159 for just so many people in this 1542 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:51,280 community that are just giving so much 1543 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,440 of themselves and of their time and 1544 01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:55,440 talents and um I [clears throat] don't 1545 01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,360 want to raise my kids anywhere else. 1546 01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,440 Thank you to everybody that's here 1547 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:03,119 >> for just for being a part of Basalt. 1548 01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:05,040 >> It's so encouraging to know that there 1549 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,159 are communities like this. 1550 01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,639 >> Sure. 1551 01:40:10,639 --> 01:40:13,199 >> All right. Anyone else have anything to 1552 01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:14,960 add? 1553 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,320 >> Any comments you said? These are like 1554 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,864 the most memorable comments of the year. 1555 01:40:18,864 --> 01:40:19,440 [laughter] 1556 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:19,679 You're 1557 01:40:19,679 --> 01:40:21,119 >> already crying by me. 1558 01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:24,000 >> I know. 1559 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,760 >> Um, we'll move on uh to our next agenda 1560 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,239 item, which is the manager's report. Um, 1561 01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:32,159 item five, which also includes 5A, 1562 01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:33,920 police lieutenant pinning. 1563 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,679 >> Yes. I would like to start off my 1564 01:40:35,679 --> 01:40:38,159 manager's report with the pinning 1565 01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:40,560 ceremony for our new lieutenant, Travis 1566 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,444 St. 1567 01:40:42,444 --> 01:40:49,750 [applause] 1568 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,440 Thank you all. Yeah, you're good right 1569 01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:54,159 there. Um, I own a little proclamation 1570 01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:56,639 since we're on that kick tonight. So, 1571 01:40:56,639 --> 01:40:58,400 uh, to all who shall see these present 1572 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,719 greetings, know ye that reposing special 1573 01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:03,119 trust and confidence in the fidelity and 1574 01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:05,679 abilities of Sergeant Travis Still, I do 1575 01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:07,679 appoint this officer a lieutenant for 1576 01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:10,239 the town of Baal Police Department to 1577 01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:12,480 rank as such from the 14th day of April, 1578 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:14,000 2026. 1579 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,679 Effective with his appointment, you are 1580 01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:17,360 charged to carefully and diligently 1581 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,199 execute the duties and responsibilities 1582 01:41:19,199 --> 01:41:21,760 of a lieutenant. and I do strictly 1583 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,600 direct and require all personnel of 1584 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,760 lesser grade to render obedience to 1585 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,080 appropriate order. As a lieutenant, you 1586 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,440 must set the example for others to 1587 01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:31,520 emulate. Your conduct and 1588 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,520 professionalism, both on and off duty, 1589 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,760 shall be above reproach. You are 1590 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,520 responsible for the accomplishment of 1591 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,440 your assigned mission statement and for 1592 01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:41,119 this safety, professional development, 1593 01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:43,119 and well-being of the officers in your 1594 01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:45,600 agency. You will be the embodiment of 1595 01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,440 our institutional core values of 1596 01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:49,119 integrity, compassion, and 1597 01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:51,040 professionalism. You will lead your 1598 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,960 officers with firmness, fairness, and 1599 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,960 dignity while observing and following 1600 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,960 the Constitution of the United States, 1601 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,960 the laws of the state of Colorado, and 1602 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:00,480 the ordinances and policies and 1603 01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:02,639 procedures of the Town of Assault. Given 1604 01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:04,480 under my hand at Town of Assault 1605 01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:08,320 Colorado, this 14th day of April, 2026. 1606 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,215 Congratulations. 1607 01:42:10,215 --> 01:42:17,350 [applause] 1608 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,199 To do uh to do the pinning, I'm going to 1609 01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:21,119 have uh Travis's wife Christy and his 1610 01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:23,600 two kids come up. They're right behind 1611 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,080 me. All right. 1612 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,600 >> You want to start with the batch? There 1613 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:32,950 you go. 1614 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:50,815 Excellent. [laughter] 1615 01:42:50,825 --> 01:42:54,310 [applause] 1616 01:42:54,320 --> 01:43:09,811 Baby 1617 01:43:09,821 --> 01:43:15,990 » [applause] 1618 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,280 » You don't have to say anything. All 1619 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,719 right. Well, the other day I failed, so 1620 01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:24,400 I'll just um I just I appreciate the uh 1621 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,600 vote of confidence to fill this role to 1622 01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,320 assist you in leading our team, which is 1623 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,239 a phenomenal team. 1624 01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:34,400 uh which is also in part due to support 1625 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,119 we get from you guys as council. So I'm 1626 01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:39,840 super excited for this opportunity and 1627 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,280 thanks. 1628 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,719 >> Thank you. 1629 01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,536 >> Awesome. Thank you. I APPRECIATE 1630 01:43:44,536 --> 01:43:54,709 [applause] 1631 01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:56,981 like a perma smile on my face right now. 1632 01:43:56,981 --> 01:43:59,830 [laughter] 1633 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,199 » Good feelings. Yeah. Okay. I have more 1634 01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:06,480 on my manager's report. Um [laughter] 1635 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:08,960 just wanted to report out that the 1636 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,280 >> bad news. [laughter] It's actually a 1637 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,159 good news. Um ebike safety working group 1638 01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:17,440 um with RAFTA. Uh we attended last last 1639 01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:20,400 week. Um and Basalt is joining Aspen's 1640 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,520 campaign in Go Slow Say hello. Um so 1641 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,679 you'll see more um more stuff coming out 1642 01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:29,920 on Go Slow Say Hello. We're also 1643 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,280 evaluating how we can effectively 1644 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,239 uh regulate emotos. Um so that's 1645 01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:37,360 something that we're working on with the 1646 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,000 school resource officer. So um we're 1647 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,679 also partnering right now with Eagle 1648 01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:43,679 County to do a curbside chipping program 1649 01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:45,440 to encourage residents to clean up their 1650 01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:48,080 yards and reduce fire danger. Uh so this 1651 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,760 is funded through Eagle County but will 1652 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,639 serve the entire town of Basalt. Uh and 1653 01:44:52,639 --> 01:44:56,159 pickup will start at the end of May. Um 1654 01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:58,400 and then we received 10 proposals for 1655 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,480 the design and entitlement services for 1656 01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:03,440 public service building and we will or 1657 01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:04,960 we're actually calling it public service 1658 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,159 facility and we have a we will have a 1659 01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:10,880 recommendation to you all by um April 1660 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,920 28th we're doing um and then I wanted to 1661 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,520 remind everyone that Earth Day is next 1662 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,840 week. Um so we are hosting an Earth Day 1663 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,280 celebration. Um so that is on Wednesday, 1664 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:26,000 April 22nd from 12 to 6 pm. And um we'll 1665 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,840 have activities including guest 1666 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,880 speakers, um solar power exhibits, 1667 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,480 electric car demos, um and uh free 1668 01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:37,119 composting bins, kids crafts, tree 1669 01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:38,400 giveaways, [cough and clears throat] 1670 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,880 and a food and music. So um stop by from 1671 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,639 Yeah. from 12 to 6 on Earth Day. And you 1672 01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:48,159 know, do you know offh hand what which 1673 01:45:48,159 --> 01:45:50,000 time is the elementary school kids 1674 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,440 coming over? I know that's 1675 01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:52,880 >> So they are going to be doing their 1676 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,560 performance at 12:30 p.m. 1677 01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,440 >> 12:30. That's a that's a good one. 1678 01:45:57,440 --> 01:45:59,119 >> It's all good. But that's a really 1679 01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:01,840 >> Yes. 1680 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,560 >> All right. That is my manager's report. 1681 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,080 >> All right. Great. 1682 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,480 >> Thank you, Gloria. So, we are going to 1683 01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:11,760 move back into presentations uh and to 1684 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,560 6C, which is a presentation on Cavern 1685 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,199 Springs Mobile Home Park and John Fox 1686 01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:18,800 Rubin. 1687 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,719 >> Sir, if I might, um we do have our 1688 01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:22,719 translator available this evening. 1689 01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:27,590 >> Okay. [clears throat] 1690 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,600 » And yeah, if anybody else wants to come 1691 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,679 up and and be up here at the front uh 1692 01:46:31,679 --> 01:46:33,600 with the mics, they're 1693 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:38,103 >> more than welcome to. 1694 01:46:38,113 --> 01:46:39,280 » [clears throat] 1695 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:40,880 >> Thank you everyone. We're just getting 1696 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:49,910 prepared. 1697 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,520 » Well, I haven't seen some of you in a 1698 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,600 while. I've sat in your chairs a long 1699 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,080 time ago when Rick Stevens was the 1700 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,119 mayor. And 1701 01:46:59,119 --> 01:47:00,960 I'm here for one of the issues that we 1702 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,600 worked on back then, which is preserving 1703 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,239 community through mobile home parks. 1704 01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:08,239 And tonight we just want to share with 1705 01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:09,679 you what we're doing around Cavern 1706 01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:14,709 Springs Mobile Home Park. 1707 01:47:14,719 --> 01:47:16,560 » We've got 1708 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,760 um couple folks here that live in Cavern 1709 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,880 Springs. Monica Mun is the vice 1710 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,679 president of the Soress Mountain 1711 01:47:25,679 --> 01:47:27,600 Collective, which is the organization 1712 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,320 they've formed to try to become a 1713 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,479 residentowned community. and 1714 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,040 [clears throat] her colleague here, 1715 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,159 Anadina Garcia, is going to speak and 1716 01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:42,320 share her story. And then Enid Richie, 1717 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,159 who is another member of Mountain Voices 1718 01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:47,119 Project, Mountain Voices Project, she's 1719 01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:48,000 going to tell you a little bit about 1720 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,679 what it is for those of you that don't 1721 01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:52,320 know, has been involved throughout the 1722 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,560 community with other mobile home 1723 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,840 communities that are at threat of being 1724 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,520 um displaced, etc. So, those are the 1725 01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,040 people that are going to speak tonight. 1726 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,679 Monica's going to go first 1727 01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:12,950 there. 1728 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:14,960 » Just pull it. Yeah. Speak into it. 1729 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,480 >> Okay. Thank you. 1730 01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:20,080 >> Hello. My name is Monica Monise. 1731 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,639 I am the vice president of the Sus 1732 01:48:22,639 --> 01:48:24,480 Mountain Collective, which represents 1733 01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:26,080 the residents of Cavern Springs 1734 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:30,080 community. just next to Habitat Restore 1735 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,560 on this side of Glennwood Springs. There 1736 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,520 are 98 families. Several have lived here 1737 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:40,800 for over 30 years. There are uh 260 1738 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,360 uh residents, children, disabled 1739 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,679 children, and adult senior citizens and 1740 01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:47,520 veterans. 1741 01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,560 Um 22 of our residents work in Basalt 1742 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,355 and 14 of them al work in Elabel. 1743 01:48:54,355 --> 01:48:55,040 [clears throat] 1744 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,880 My husband and I moved to the Royin Fork 1745 01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:00,480 Valley in 1998 and then moved to uh the 1746 01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,800 Cavern Springs um which at that time was 1747 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:06,719 called HL Lazf in 1991 raising our 1748 01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:09,199 daughter and caregiving our my special 1749 01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:11,360 needs brother. 1750 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,560 We enjoy our view of Mount Srris 1751 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,480 from our home and our garden and the 1752 01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:19,280 longtime connections and the new ones we 1753 01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,679 have developed in our community. 1754 01:49:21,679 --> 01:49:24,000 I own a small business in Carbondale and 1755 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,000 I have served on the Royan Fork Resource 1756 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,119 Center board. I enjoy uh volunteering in 1757 01:49:29,119 --> 01:49:30,800 community events in the Royan Fork 1758 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,480 Valley. 1759 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:34,400 Thank you for your time. 1760 01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:34,880 >> Thank you. 1761 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,760 And I'm going to This is 1762 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:45,436 Inadina Garcia and she'll speak. 1763 01:49:45,446 --> 01:49:46,159 » [clears throat] 1764 01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:57,030 >> is Garcia 1765 01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:43,030 Spring. 1766 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:59,189 Yes. 1767 01:50:59,199 --> 01:51:19,910 They 1768 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:29,669 spring. 1769 01:51:29,679 --> 01:51:48,629 Kilo 1770 01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:54,790 fresco. 1771 01:51:54,800 --> 01:52:20,629 AJesa. 1772 01:52:20,639 --> 01:52:42,288 Colleen 1773 01:52:42,298 --> 01:52:50,070 [clears throat] 1774 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,669 Audencia 1775 01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:56,320 Pimar. 1776 01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:12,470 Um 1777 01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:27,990 seasoning device. 1778 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,599 The interpreter would just request one 1779 01:53:29,599 --> 01:53:31,199 moment because that was a little 1780 01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:54,390 >> good. You're good introduction. 1781 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:58,560 Good evening. My name is Anedita Garcia. 1782 01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,520 I've 1783 01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,159 lived in the valley for 26 years and 1784 01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,880 I've lived in Cavern Springs for five 1785 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,239 and a half years. I have three children. 1786 01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:14,159 I have one uh who serves in the US Army. 1787 01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:16,960 He's been there for five years 1788 01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:21,040 and he comes to the area about three 1789 01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:26,080 times a year. Comes uh about three or 1790 01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,639 twice a year. And whenever he comes 1791 01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:30,960 back, he comes back to Cavern Springs. 1792 01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,599 And we always celebrate when he comes 1793 01:54:33,599 --> 01:54:36,159 back and visits. 1794 01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:39,440 His desire is to be able to have his own 1795 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,320 family back in Cavern Springs at some 1796 01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,800 point in the future. 1797 01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,480 And 1798 01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,199 we're fighting to be able to retain our 1799 01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:52,639 home and our community. 1800 01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:55,199 I also have another son who is a plumber 1801 01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:58,800 in the Basalt area for a company and 1802 01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,679 based out of Basalt. 1803 01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:06,320 Um and I myself have worked uh for six 1804 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:11,040 years also in the basalt area. 1805 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,639 Um, we have um 1806 01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:19,360 our home is uh very calm and 1807 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:23,920 our family enjoys living in the area 1808 01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,360 um in Cavern Springs because um well, I 1809 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:28,800 really enjoy it because it's close to 1810 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:34,639 work and and it's very calm and and safe 1811 01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:36,530 and tranquil. 1812 01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:37,040 [clears throat] 1813 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,480 >> I have an tree in my patio. It's very 1814 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:45,040 fresh. It's very fresh in my patio. Um 1815 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,280 uh that I uh upkeep during the 1816 01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,040 summertime 1817 01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:50,639 and 1818 01:55:50,639 --> 01:55:52,560 I've had the opportunity to be able to 1819 01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,679 get to know my neighbors better because 1820 01:55:55,679 --> 01:56:02,080 of work. And we're currently uh pursuing 1821 01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,040 the uh the ability to be able to 1822 01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:09,280 establish a residence in our community. 1823 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:13,040 Uh just this past weekend we had our 1824 01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,560 fifth 1825 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,560 uh community collective just last 1826 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:21,520 weekend and we were uh 1827 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:25,040 between all of us there's um we were 1828 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:30,080 able to make about 5,000 tamales and we 1829 01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,840 were able to raise about $6,000 1830 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,119 and that's money that we planned uh on 1831 01:56:37,119 --> 01:56:39,199 using those funds to be able to pay for 1832 01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:42,000 the upcoming expenses that we have with 1833 01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,920 the preliminary preliminary hearing. 1834 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,639 Um there are other residents in the area 1835 01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:52,320 uh some of which are uh elder 1836 01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,840 and encompasses also uh young 1837 01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,320 individuals and children. 1838 01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,599 Um thank you for your time and for 1839 01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:06,070 listening to part of my story. 1840 01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:16,070 » Thank you. 1841 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:19,119 Good evening. I am Enid Richie, a Basalt 1842 01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:23,119 resident for the past 9.5 years. I 1843 01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:25,199 joined my daughter and her family in the 1844 01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:28,159 Roaring Fork Valley. She has been a 1845 01:57:28,159 --> 01:57:30,800 teacher at Basalt Elementary. Her 1846 01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,520 husband works for Sko. Both my 1847 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,000 grandchildren are currently attending 1848 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,840 BHS. 1849 01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,320 Not knowing anyone in the valley except 1850 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,440 my family, I reached out as a volunteer 1851 01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,000 in the following organizations. 1852 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:49,520 A tutor in English in action, a library 1853 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,320 board member for six years and currently 1854 01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:55,599 a library trust member. As a 1855 01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:58,080 representative of English in action, I 1856 01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,800 became a leader in Mountain Voices 1857 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:05,440 project early in it in its inception. I 1858 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,199 continue to volunteer in each 1859 01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:08,880 organization. 1860 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,880 Tonight, I'm here on behalf of Mountain 1861 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:16,400 Voices Project. MVP is a regional 1862 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,760 organization from Aspen to parachute 1863 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:23,119 consisting of 20 organizational members 1864 01:58:23,119 --> 01:58:26,320 from faith, nonprofit and community 1865 01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,239 sectors to address civic issues. Early 1866 01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:34,080 on we had structured small groups group 1867 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,239 community conversations 1868 01:58:36,239 --> 01:58:39,440 where deep concerns bubbled up. We took 1869 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,040 action. 1870 01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,920 Examples are MVP was instrumental in the 1871 01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,560 early childhood tax initiative on both 1872 01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,719 the ballot and its successful passing 1873 01:58:52,719 --> 01:58:56,719 during COVID. A housing crisis occurred. 1874 01:58:56,719 --> 01:59:00,159 Tenants were unable to pay rent due to 1875 01:59:00,159 --> 01:59:03,840 the clo the US closing down during the 1876 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:07,119 pandemic. Property owners were unable to 1877 01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:12,000 pay their property bills. Uh um and we 1878 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:16,560 helped them both the um renters and the 1879 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,280 property owners to find the money they 1880 01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,400 needed to survive through the pandemic. 1881 01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,080 Currently we are dealing with a 1882 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,719 different community issue regarding 1883 01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:30,560 housing. The next speaker 1884 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,760 uh John will clarify the issue and the 1885 01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,560 needs. 1886 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:37,040 >> Thank you. 1887 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,537 >> Thanks Enid. 1888 01:59:39,537 --> 01:59:40,560 >> [clears throat] 1889 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,960 >> I also want to recognize Ellen Dubet in 1890 01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,119 the audience here. She's a member of 1891 01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:47,199 Mountain Voices Project as a leader from 1892 01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:49,363 the Snow Mass Chapel. We have leaders 1893 01:59:49,363 --> 01:59:50,719 [clears throat] throughout the community 1894 01:59:50,719 --> 01:59:53,599 from our member organizations. My member 1895 01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:55,199 organization is the Aspen Jewish 1896 01:59:55,199 --> 01:59:58,400 Congregation. So, I act as a leader and 1897 01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,400 bring their perspective to our community 1898 02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,239 conversations. 1899 02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:03,840 The 1900 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,320 thing that you may not know about me, a 1901 02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,800 lot of you probably don't. Rick, my I I 1902 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:11,599 lived in Aspen Village when I was seven 1903 02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:13,280 years old for a few years and it was a 1904 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,840 wonderful experience and that's probably 1905 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,000 what where my passion for preserving 1906 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,119 mobile home communities came from. 1907 02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:22,400 Historically, they've been a very 1908 02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,560 affordable a market-based affordable 1909 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,920 solution for housing in this community. 1910 02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,000 There are over 50 mobile home parks 1911 02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,880 between Parachute and Aspen. And about 1912 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,840 25% of the people you see, or maybe you 1913 02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,440 don't see, but that do the work for us 1914 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:42,080 with us live in mobile homes in this 1915 02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,800 community. 1916 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:49,360 We are concerned that the privatization, 1917 02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:50,880 the hedge funds, the private equity 1918 02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,280 funds that have been pretty active are 1919 02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,119 getting even more active. There's an 1920 02:00:55,119 --> 02:00:56,560 article in the paper recently about 1921 02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,440 seven parks from Rifle to Grand Junction 1922 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,800 that all got purchased by one entity. 1923 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,040 That's really challenging because if you 1924 02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:06,800 live in one of those parks and the rents 1925 02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:09,440 go up, you don't really have another 1926 02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:12,080 place to go. Even with the legislation 1927 02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,000 that's been advancing in the state, the 1928 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,080 state has been very proactive in trying 1929 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,719 to make a difference here. But the 1930 02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:20,800 legislation is not quite there. So, 1931 02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:22,560 Mountain Voices Project has also been 1932 02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,440 involved in some policy papers to help 1933 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,760 strengthen the legislation and there's 1934 02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,520 two bills that are that are being pushed 1935 02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,199 right now that would continue to help 1936 02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:33,840 strengthen it, but it's still not there. 1937 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,000 And meanwhile, Cavern Springs has this 1938 02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,080 is the second time they've been sold 1939 02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,480 under the new opportunity to purchase 1940 02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,040 law. I worked with them the first time 1941 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:46,320 they got the notice in 2019 1942 02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:49,760 and they were being sold for $18 million 1943 02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:51,280 and we couldn't come up with the 1944 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,440 financing to keep the rents at all from 1945 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,920 doubling and so the residents turned 1946 02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,400 that opportunity down. There was not 1947 02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:00,960 wide community support for that. Today 1948 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:02,560 there's a lot more community support. 1949 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,000 We've already received some community 1950 02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,119 support from some municipalities. Pigan 1951 02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:09,520 County is weighing in on it tomorrow. We 1952 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,920 presented in front of Garfield County 1953 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,400 and to be determined if we can get 1954 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:16,560 anything from them. However, their 1955 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:19,280 housing authority is potentially 1956 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,119 participating as a special limited 1957 02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:23,360 partner which would allow for property 1958 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:24,960 tax abatement. So, we're really trying 1959 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:29,119 to weave together the right equity that 1960 02:02:29,119 --> 02:02:31,440 would come in as a subsidy and the right 1961 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,679 lending from what's called a CDFI 1962 02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:35,360 lender, community development financial 1963 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,520 institution lender. There's a company 1964 02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,360 called Rock USA which is the primary 1965 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,040 lender that helped the two parks already 1966 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,639 in this comm actually three in this 1967 02:02:42,639 --> 02:02:44,800 community. Basalt Carbondale and one in 1968 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:47,119 Glenwood already. And so we're hoping to 1969 02:02:47,119 --> 02:02:49,280 follow that with with them and another 1970 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,599 one called IDF Impact Development Fund 1971 02:02:51,599 --> 02:02:53,599 out of the Front Range that has been 1972 02:02:53,599 --> 02:02:55,679 active in a couple of the the capital 1973 02:02:55,679 --> 02:02:58,560 stacks in our community. So the reason 1974 02:02:58,560 --> 02:02:59,920 we're here tonight is just to educate 1975 02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:01,840 you, let you know what we're up to. 1976 02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:04,000 Mountain Voices Project has also created 1977 02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,639 a fund at the Aspen Community Foundation 1978 02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:09,199 that funds uh legal support for 1979 02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:11,520 residents like Cavern Springs, but also 1980 02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,920 for other communities. We our goal at 1981 02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,520 Mountain Voices Project is not to be 1982 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,679 solving this one at a time, but it's to 1983 02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:20,320 really to get things like a tax 1984 02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,360 initiative that can cover preservation 1985 02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,599 of communities. There's a there's a fund 1986 02:03:25,599 --> 02:03:27,840 called the Prop 123 fund at the state 1987 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,199 level that is designed for preservation 1988 02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:32,880 and construction of new affordable 1989 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,119 housing. But in the Colorado Sun 1990 02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:36,719 recently, there was an article that only 1991 02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:40,719 point two or was it actually 0.02% of 1992 02:03:40,719 --> 02:03:43,679 the funds in Prop 123 have gone towards 1993 02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:46,159 preserving existing units. And when you 1994 02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:48,719 look at the bang for your buck, your ROI 1995 02:03:48,719 --> 02:03:51,760 on preserving units, in this case, we're 1996 02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,480 looking for about a $8 million total 1997 02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,280 community investment for approximately 1998 02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:00,719 100 mobile homes. So that's $80,000 per 1999 02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:04,960 mobile home saved from 2000 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,599 uncertain future and most likely 2001 02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:10,000 doubling rents if the Cavern Springs 2002 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:11,760 residents do not prevail in purchasing 2003 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:14,000 and becoming a residentowned community. 2004 02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,880 So, that's pretty much why we're here 2005 02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,320 today is to let you know what we're up 2006 02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:22,159 to. And we'd love support in raising 2007 02:04:22,159 --> 02:04:23,679 this capital. We're talking to 2008 02:04:23,679 --> 02:04:25,280 businesses. We're talking to 2009 02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:27,760 philanthropists. We're also looking at 2010 02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,480 creating a loan fund where people who 2011 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,960 may not be able to donate but could put 2012 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:35,520 some of their capital into a a loan fund 2013 02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,119 that would probably be managed by 2014 02:04:37,119 --> 02:04:40,560 another CDFI or a local institution 2015 02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,199 where your money would only earn 3% per 2016 02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:45,760 year, but that's a possibility as well. 2017 02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:47,199 So, we're trying to be very creative to 2018 02:04:47,199 --> 02:04:50,239 finance this this community. Any 2019 02:04:50,239 --> 02:04:52,320 questions? 2020 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:53,520 >> And I don't know what was in your 2021 02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:55,119 packet. Did you end up putting in the 2022 02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:57,520 slide deck in the pack? Okay. 2023 02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:58,000 Yeah. 2024 02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:58,400 >> Yeah. 2025 02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,159 So, you can review that and if you 2026 02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:02,480 have questions, we're more than happy to answer. 2027 02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,320 >> This is this is good kind of getting the 2028 02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:05,760 um the talk track over because you 2029 02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,520 already read the slides, but kind of 2030 02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:08,880 getting the commentary I think is 2031 02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,199 important. I mean, like I I read that 2032 02:05:11,199 --> 02:05:13,280 Colorado Sun article as well. And that's 2033 02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:16,480 what just struck me is, you know, it 2034 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,719 with limited resources for affordable 2035 02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:21,920 housing, what can we do? And this is I'm 2036 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,320 not asking you to see you have a great 2037 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,520 idea, but like we need to change the the 2038 02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:29,360 focus to be a little more balanced 2039 02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,119 between existing housing and 2040 02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:33,199 construction. It seems like there's a 2041 02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:35,040 lot of a push a lot of a push like let's 2042 02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:37,920 do have nonprofits be able to develop 2043 02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,239 inexpensively. Let's you know density 2044 02:05:40,239 --> 02:05:43,360 your transit that's great. We also have 2045 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:46,719 a lot of housing that's um kind of 2046 02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:49,119 affordable by design that we need to 2047 02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:50,239 preserve. Yeah, 2048 02:05:50,239 --> 02:05:53,280 >> it's going to be a lot more um 2049 02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,320 expeditious and efficient with money to 2050 02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:58,400 make that uh stay affordable. And that's 2051 02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:00,400 what just kind of 2052 02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:03,199 >> confounds me is why we're not focusing 2053 02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:06,159 on that more. Um so I don't know. I mean 2054 02:06:06,159 --> 02:06:08,480 that's kind of a rhetorical question of 2055 02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,760 sorts, but 2056 02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:11,360 >> that's that's what strikes me with this 2057 02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:16,000 because I mean Cavern Springs is one of many like you said was it 50 2058 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,040 >> 40 50 to parachute. I would say about 8 2059 02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:21,440 to 10 have been preserved. So when I say 2060 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:23,440 50, it includes Smuggler Mobile Home 2061 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:24,800 Park in Aspen. 2062 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,040 >> And so as you get closer down here, 2063 02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:28,480 almost all of them have been preserved 2064 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:31,040 one way or another. Either it's RORO or, 2065 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:32,719 you know, Woody Creek is actually a 2066 02:06:32,719 --> 02:06:35,520 metro district that that manages it in 2067 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,159 manages it instead of an HOA. Um, you 2068 02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:39,679 know, over here we're lucky there's a 2069 02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:41,599 land use restriction on the Roaring Fork 2070 02:06:41,599 --> 02:06:44,400 mobile home park, but that's been slated 2071 02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,320 for development a couple times when a 2072 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,800 developer bought the parcel. And I don't 2073 02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,800 know the the current status of it. I 2074 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:52,880 know that's something of long-term 2075 02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,040 interest for you all as well is how do 2076 02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:58,719 we balance the needs there? 2077 02:06:58,719 --> 02:07:01,520 >> Thanks. 2078 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:05,520 Other questions or comments for the 2079 02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,560 team here? Thank you for taking the time 2080 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,719 to come out and share about your 2081 02:07:10,719 --> 02:07:12,719 community to let us know what you're 2082 02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:16,639 doing to preserve it. 2083 02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,800 >> Are there specific things like there, 2084 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,280 you know, web pages, social media, like 2085 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,599 you know, the things that we can do to, 2086 02:07:23,599 --> 02:07:24,560 you know, help? 2087 02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:27,679 >> Yeah, the the 2088 02:07:27,679 --> 02:07:30,320 what is it called? The housing justice 2089 02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,280 fund. It's a special interest fund at 2090 02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:37,599 the Aspen Community Foundation. We have 2091 02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:40,079 readily raised over $100,000 with small 2092 02:07:40,079 --> 02:07:45,440 donations already to that. And so that's a great thing where anyone in the 2093 02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,079 community can play a role not just for 2094 02:07:48,079 --> 02:07:50,000 Cavern Springs, but for the ongoing work 2095 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:53,199 that's that's going to need to occur. 2096 02:07:53,199 --> 02:07:54,800 We are going to be talking to 2097 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,560 businesses. We're just starting the kind 2098 02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,239 of the the philanthropic side. We've 2099 02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:00,159 been working pretty heavily on the 2100 02:08:00,159 --> 02:08:02,400 municipal side with commitments from 2101 02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:06,079 Carbondale, Snow Mass Village, 2102 02:08:06,079 --> 02:08:09,040 town of or city of Glennwood Springs, 2103 02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,440 city of Aspen has said yes to some 2104 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:12,639 amount there. They haven't determined 2105 02:08:12,639 --> 02:08:14,639 the amount yet. And then picking county 2106 02:08:14,639 --> 02:08:17,040 and Eagle County will be approaching as 2107 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:19,599 well. So we're now that those are those 2108 02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:20,960 conversations are in flight with 2109 02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,800 different communities. 2110 02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,440 We our target there is about $6 million 2111 02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:27,360 and and April Long of the West Mountain 2112 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:31,119 Regional Housing Coalition is going to 2113 02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:33,679 manage the municipal and county piece of 2114 02:08:33,679 --> 02:08:35,920 the work as she's done before and has 2115 02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:37,360 done, you know, an incredible job with 2116 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:39,360 that. And then we're going to tap our 2117 02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,679 networks for the business community. And 2118 02:08:41,679 --> 02:08:43,280 the business community rose to the 2119 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:46,320 challenge last time and it's very hard 2120 02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:48,159 on the heels of that for for all of us 2121 02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:49,679 to, you know, to just keep keep doing 2122 02:08:49,679 --> 02:08:51,840 it. Um, so we're gonna we're trying to 2123 02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:56,000 expand that business community network. 2124 02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:56,400 >> Good. 2125 02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,159 >> So any anything you can do and touch 2126 02:08:58,159 --> 02:09:00,719 base with me if you have ideas and we're 2127 02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:02,159 trying to be creative and keep it moving 2128 02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:03,840 forward. You know, we've we've talked 2129 02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,440 with RAFTA, we've talked with all sorts 2130 02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:07,360 of interested organizations that that 2131 02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:08,880 have already invested in affordable 2132 02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:10,880 housing. And, you know, we're we're 2133 02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,440 looking at flexible ways for things like 2134 02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:16,000 buying the opportunity if a if a mobile 2135 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,960 home needs to be sold for a business to 2136 02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,520 be able to purchase it for their staff. 2137 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,360 Uh, which which actually worked with 2138 02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:25,679 Garfield County and Habitat for 2139 02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:27,280 Humanity. That approach helped Garfield 2140 02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:29,599 County get their first affordable 2141 02:09:29,599 --> 02:09:31,760 housing units that were paid for by the 2142 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:33,629 government, which was a big 2143 02:09:33,629 --> 02:09:36,560 [clears throat] big step for them. 2144 02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:37,040 >> Yeah. 2145 02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,440 I actually watched the RAFTA 2146 02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:41,280 presentation and I was really interested 2147 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,840 by coming up with creative ways to try 2148 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:47,040 and figure out more pieces to that 2149 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,199 capital stack. And I just want to say 2150 02:09:49,199 --> 02:09:50,560 thank you for being here, Monica and 2151 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,079 Elena. Gracias. 2152 02:09:54,079 --> 02:10:03,589 Your stories are important to hear. And 2153 02:10:03,599 --> 02:10:10,950 in partic 2154 02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:13,520 and I know we're we're in a tight place 2155 02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,520 for funding, but I think thinking 2156 02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,599 creatively and trying to see where we 2157 02:10:17,599 --> 02:10:20,800 can help um elevate your stories is 2158 02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,280 really important. 2159 02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,599 Every bit helps. Thank you so much. 2160 02:10:25,599 --> 02:10:26,800 >> Thank you. 2161 02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,040 so much for your time tonight. 2162 02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:36,870 >> Thanks for coming out. Good luck. 2163 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,960 All right, 2164 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:42,000 we have uh council actions next and the 2165 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,320 first one and the only one is item 7A 2166 02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:46,159 which is a resolution number 20 series 2167 02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:48,880 of 2026 resolution of the town council 2168 02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,400 of the town of Basalt, Colorado 2169 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:51,920 allocating funds from the town's 2170 02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:53,760 short-term rental regulatory fee and 2171 02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:56,639 lodging tax fund toward acquisition of a 2172 02:10:56,639 --> 02:10:58,719 deed restriction on a free market unit 2173 02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:01,599 at 720 Lakeside Drive in partnership 2174 02:11:01,599 --> 02:11:04,079 with Eagle County and James you're up 2175 02:11:04,079 --> 02:11:04,719 for this one. 2176 02:11:04,719 --> 02:11:06,639 >> Yeah, thank you. Uh, as the mayor 2177 02:11:06,639 --> 02:11:09,040 indicated, this item is a resolution to 2178 02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:11,679 allocate funds to participate in a buy 2179 02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:14,000 down of a deed restriction uh, in 2180 02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,560 partnership with Eagle County on the 2181 02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:19,760 free market unit at 720 Lakeside Drive. 2182 02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:22,000 Uh the council previously approved the 2183 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:25,040 framework for a prior buy down potential 2184 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:26,960 uh that didn't go through at that time 2185 02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:30,560 and now uh we have this new opportunity 2186 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,560 at 720 uh Lakeside Drive. Uh the town's 2187 02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:38,400 contribution would be 97,500 2188 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:42,159 uh which equates to 15% of the purchase 2189 02:11:42,159 --> 02:11:44,719 price. Uh and Eagle County would be 2190 02:11:44,719 --> 02:11:47,599 putting in 15% of the purchase price as 2191 02:11:47,599 --> 02:11:51,199 well. Uh the resolution would allocate 2192 02:11:51,199 --> 02:11:53,760 approximately 80,000 from the town's 2193 02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:56,560 short-term regulatory fee uh which is 2194 02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:59,119 what we have uh gained this year from 2195 02:11:59,119 --> 02:12:01,440 the regulatory fee. And then the 2196 02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:04,239 remainder would be made up uh from the 2197 02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:07,040 additional lodging tax funds uh that 2198 02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,679 were uh granted by the voters uh this 2199 02:12:09,679 --> 02:12:14,320 past uh election. Um and so staff 2200 02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,560 believes that this is a good opportunity 2201 02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:20,320 to increase uh the number of uh buy 2202 02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,760 downs that we have uh in the uh town of 2203 02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:26,320 Basalt. Uh it is within the town's 2204 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:33,760 boundaries. Uh so staff would suggest uh approving the resolution uh to 2205 02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:36,800 allocate the funds towards the buy down 2206 02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:39,199 uh so that we can participate with Eagle 2207 02:12:39,199 --> 02:12:43,599 County in this buy down scenario. Jeff, 2208 02:12:43,599 --> 02:12:45,199 do you have anything to add? We've been 2209 02:12:45,199 --> 02:12:49,440 working uh with Eagle County staff um on 2210 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:51,760 kind of the framework of the buy down a 2211 02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:54,320 bit and so we're we're still kind of 2212 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,400 talking to them about that, but staff 2213 02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:00,000 would suggest uh allocating the funds. 2214 02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:05,910 >> Yeah, I think you covered it. 2215 02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:09,199 » How does that work on the 2216 02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:11,840 p the purchase of the unit? I assume 2217 02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,320 this unit is for sale. 2218 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:16,480 Person who wants to buy it has applied 2219 02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:18,800 for the benefit is getting the benefit 2220 02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,520 and then what is their role and 2221 02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:23,280 responsibility beyond that other than to 2222 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,000 just sign it off as a restricted unit. 2223 02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,719 Do they still have to come up with 20% 2224 02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:31,040 of the down that's left or how does that 2225 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:31,920 all 2226 02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,880 >> uh you know in terms of you know what 2227 02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:37,760 would the buyer have to come up with in 2228 02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,239 for down payment and so forth? I think 2229 02:13:40,239 --> 02:13:42,480 it might vary. I don't know that it's 2230 02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:44,560 prescribed. 2231 02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:45,920 Harper might be the best one to answer 2232 02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,800 this having gone through this but or all 2233 02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,840 the way to the you have a near finish 2234 02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:53,760 line. I don't know. Do you want to can 2235 02:13:53,760 --> 02:14:01,189 you help with that a little bit? 2236 02:14:01,199 --> 02:14:03,199 » Yeah. So 2237 02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:06,480 trying to re recollect my um memory but 2238 02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:12,239 I think the um the buy down is it's 30%. 2239 02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:14,960 So the buyers 2240 02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:18,560 has to put in at least 3% of their own 2241 02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:20,159 funds 2242 02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:22,880 and however they come up with that is up 2243 02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:26,719 to them. But um typically the good deeds 2244 02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:29,520 program requires that the the buyer put 2245 02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:32,159 in some of their own equity so that they 2246 02:14:32,159 --> 02:14:35,280 have some teeth in it. Um and then and 2247 02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,119 then between Eagle and the Town of 2248 02:14:37,119 --> 02:14:38,719 Assault, then they provide the rest of 2249 02:14:38,719 --> 02:14:40,400 the 2250 02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:43,119 um of the funds for the initial down 2251 02:14:43,119 --> 02:14:44,239 payment. 2252 02:14:44,239 --> 02:14:48,159 >> And and I think it's a 3 to 5% uh range 2253 02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:51,760 for the actual purchaser to put down and 2254 02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:54,560 it's on a case-byase basis. It's my my 2255 02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,199 understanding. And then Eagle County and 2256 02:14:57,199 --> 02:14:59,520 the town in exchange for the down 2257 02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:01,520 payment get the deed restriction to 2258 02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:03,599 prefer preserve the affordability of the 2259 02:15:03,599 --> 02:15:06,870 unit. 2260 02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:10,000 » And it comes with a 3% appreciation cap 2261 02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:12,800 on an annual basis and a requirement 2262 02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:15,360 that they be a full-time employee the 2263 02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,639 next purchaser as well. 2264 02:15:18,639 --> 02:15:20,880 I had a question on on on the funding 2265 02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:24,239 source to see if a a different scenario 2266 02:15:24,239 --> 02:15:26,719 we could perhaps explore. I know in the 2267 02:15:26,719 --> 02:15:30,639 past um we had had a hundred,000 2268 02:15:30,639 --> 02:15:33,280 um from the Balt forward 2030 money 2269 02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:36,880 budgeted for I think even last year um 2270 02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:41,199 budgeted for uh deed buyowns. Um, and 2271 02:15:41,199 --> 02:15:44,079 that that was a a sticking point with 2272 02:15:44,079 --> 02:15:46,239 West Mountain as far as a contribution 2273 02:15:46,239 --> 02:15:49,360 because it could only be used within um, 2274 02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:50,639 you know, because of the ballot language 2275 02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:51,760 only could be used within the town 2276 02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:56,159 limits. Um, so what I would I would like 2277 02:15:56,159 --> 02:15:59,520 to explore is looking at taking 2278 02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:02,049 if we didn't use that 100,000 last year. 2279 02:16:02,049 --> 02:16:02,639 [clears throat] 2280 02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:04,400 Um, and we I think we were considering 2281 02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,000 that for the last deed buy down, even 2282 02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,760 that 100,000 2283 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,679 using that for this purchase and the and 2284 02:16:11,679 --> 02:16:12,719 the funds that we have from the 2285 02:16:12,719 --> 02:16:14,480 short-term rental fees and lodging tax 2286 02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:16,960 because they have greater flexibility, 2287 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,719 could we use that instead for um West 2288 02:16:20,719 --> 02:16:22,719 Mountain Regional Housing Coalition and 2289 02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:26,079 like a regional um effort because that's 2290 02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:28,800 going to be recurring. Um we're a member 2291 02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:31,119 and you know I know Angel and now you 2292 02:16:31,119 --> 02:16:32,880 Gloria sit on on that board representing 2293 02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,800 BAL but I'm also there for RAFTA. So, I 2294 02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:38,719 know that um you know, we don't kind of 2295 02:16:38,719 --> 02:16:40,800 have a free and completely free and 2296 02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:43,840 clear um funding source for them at this 2297 02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:45,760 up until this point, but we could use 2298 02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:49,040 this money for that and we could use um 2299 02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:53,200 basalt for 2030 money potentially for uh 2300 02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:55,120 for this deed bite down because that's 2301 02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:56,399 important too, but it's in the town 2302 02:16:56,399 --> 02:16:59,599 limits, so it would fit better. Um I 2303 02:16:59,599 --> 02:17:04,960 wanted to see if that was feasible and what what others thought. Well, and 2304 02:17:04,960 --> 02:17:07,280 so for a while we've been telling West 2305 02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:08,880 Mountain, oh, we can't give more. Our 2306 02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:11,040 hands are tied because this money sits 2307 02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:13,040 in a pot that is tied to this ballot 2308 02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:14,639 language. And so it has to be used 2309 02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:17,040 within the boundary of basalt. 2310 02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:20,000 And so and and David and I, you know, 2311 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,639 are in agreement on this that 2312 02:17:22,639 --> 02:17:25,120 why not use that money that is so 2313 02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:28,080 restricted for this specific purpose for 2314 02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:30,559 which it was intended and free up the 2315 02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:32,160 other funds, the STR and the lodging 2316 02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:36,719 funds that aren't as restricted for 2317 02:17:36,719 --> 02:17:38,800 other use to, you know, it can be what 2318 02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:41,760 we give to West Mountain as our annual 2319 02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:43,840 commitment because then it can be used 2320 02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:45,760 outside of the boundaries of assault. I 2321 02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:47,439 think that makes a lot I think that 2322 02:17:47,439 --> 02:17:48,479 makes a lot of sense. 2323 02:17:48,479 --> 02:17:51,120 >> Doug has some opinions on the [laughter] 2324 02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:53,359 >> or Jeff about like the specific uses of 2325 02:17:53,359 --> 02:17:55,359 funds and the where they are in the 2326 02:17:55,359 --> 02:17:58,719 ballot language and 2327 02:17:58,719 --> 02:18:01,120 >> I'll let you speak to where this money 2328 02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:02,800 lives in the budget. I can speak to the 2329 02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:04,080 restrictions, but go ahead. 2330 02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:06,000 >> Yeah, I mean I think um it's not really 2331 02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:08,319 in my opinion. I think it's like the 2332 02:18:08,319 --> 02:18:09,920 it's true that the ordinance for the 2333 02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:12,719 short-term regulatory fees can be used 2334 02:18:12,719 --> 02:18:14,719 for at the sole discretion of council. 2335 02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:17,519 So it's quite a wide aperture on how the 2336 02:18:17,519 --> 02:18:19,280 funds can be used. I believe that's 2337 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:22,000 similar to the lodging tax as well. And 2338 02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:25,200 it is true that we have about right now 2339 02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:28,160 83,000 or so collected in short-term 2340 02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:30,000 regulatory fees. We have that in the 2341 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:33,519 books and I'm anticipating that we would 2342 02:18:33,519 --> 02:18:35,920 likely get somewhere between two to 2343 02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,880 $250,000 of additional lodging taxes for 2344 02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:41,280 the 2% lift that we received in the 2345 02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:42,960 fall. So those those 2346 02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:43,840 >> I [clears throat] feel pretty good about 2347 02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:47,200 those numbers. I would caution the uh 2348 02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:49,519 using the the basalt forward money is 2349 02:18:49,519 --> 02:18:51,920 really the bond money. Uh we had taxable 2350 02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:54,080 and a tax exempt offering. The tax 2351 02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:56,240 exempt money for the bonds went for 2352 02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:58,960 Midland. The taxable bond offering went 2353 02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:01,120 for affordable housing in green. And 2354 02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:05,280 this council um had and this was before 2355 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:08,639 me um I think had some sort of 2356 02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:10,880 allocation that 25% of that should go to 2357 02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:13,040 green and 75% should go to affordable 2358 02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:14,639 housing. So we really been dividing up 2359 02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:19,280 the money in my mind 75% affordable 25% 2360 02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:22,080 green. So right now I would say to you 2361 02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:24,880 that we we do have money uh in the bond 2362 02:19:24,880 --> 02:19:26,800 taxable bond money to use for this 2363 02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,840 purpose. Uh my caution would be is that 2364 02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:32,479 we're looking at funding parcel nine. 2365 02:19:32,479 --> 02:19:35,760 Parcel 9 rugby field has 16 units has a 2366 02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:40,319 funding gap of potentially $8 million 2367 02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:44,096 and um and that's you know 2368 02:19:44,096 --> 02:19:45,519 [clears throat] could be more could be 2369 02:19:45,519 --> 02:19:47,760 less but it's looking look looking at 2370 02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:49,520 now there's two different people looked 2371 02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,520 at the same time and both came up with 2372 02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,680 $8 million. So I'm thinking you know 2373 02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:56,399 it's probably going to be $8 million. So 2374 02:19:56,399 --> 02:19:58,479 it would be good to use in my view of 2375 02:19:58,479 --> 02:20:01,040 closing that gap the bond money and that 2376 02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:02,800 bond money would be parcel 9. Now if you 2377 02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,960 use the bond money this as we're 2378 02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:07,520 referring to as bought forward money for 2379 02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:10,160 this deed buy down that's just another 2380 02:20:10,160 --> 02:20:13,040 $100,000 or so you won't have. So that 2381 02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:15,359 would be just laying it out. That's how 2382 02:20:15,359 --> 02:20:17,120 I would view it. It's up it's up to it's 2383 02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:19,680 council's decision about how it's used. 2384 02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:22,000 Just kind those are all the facts as I 2385 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:23,120 see the field. Well, it's not 2386 02:20:23,120 --> 02:20:25,200 necessarily money we wouldn't have 2387 02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:27,439 because we could then apply STR and 2388 02:20:27,439 --> 02:20:30,160 lodging tax money to parcel 9 as well. 2389 02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:31,200 >> That's true. And money money is 2390 02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:32,640 fungeible. That's true. 2391 02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:34,479 >> I guess that's our point is that the 2392 02:20:34,479 --> 02:20:36,800 bond money is highly restrictive. 2393 02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:37,520 >> It is. 2394 02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:39,920 >> Whereas the other revenue sources are 2395 02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:43,920 less so. So if we have a kind of rare 2396 02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:47,840 opportunity to apply the bond money I I 2397 02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:48,240 don't know 2398 02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,720 >> within the town limits which obviously 2399 02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:54,720 pal 9 is too parcel 9 is as well but 2400 02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:56,479 I guess you know I've been sitting in 2401 02:20:56,479 --> 02:20:58,240 West Mountain meetings for in these 2402 02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,640 meetings for two years and we've been 2403 02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,880 saying we wish we could do more but we 2404 02:21:02,880 --> 02:21:05,760 can't because this bond money can't be 2405 02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,240 used outside you know and then here we 2406 02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,240 are using other funds 2407 02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:13,280 >> to fund exactly what we have been 2408 02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:15,040 waiting for the opportunity to use the 2409 02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:16,560 bond money to fund. 2410 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,319 >> So it's also just a little bit 2411 02:21:18,319 --> 02:21:20,479 contradictory, you know, to what we've 2412 02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:22,319 been saying. 2413 02:21:22,319 --> 02:21:24,960 >> I I would agree. I mean, and that was 2414 02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:26,880 one of the big re I mean reasons I 2415 02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:28,560 wanted to support and I supported the 2416 02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:30,720 short-term rental fee is I wanted to 2417 02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,439 have another lever, another source to 2418 02:21:33,439 --> 02:21:36,160 use at the uh the regional level. I 2419 02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:38,800 mean, that was that was a big driver for 2420 02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:40,560 that. I I don't think I'm the only one. 2421 02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:43,520 Um, in that case, I I know we're going 2422 02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:45,680 to we we have a gap. We're going to have 2423 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:47,120 to find a partner. I mean, and we're 2424 02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:48,560 probably going to talk about that at 2425 02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,200 some point, but I this is again it comes 2426 02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:52,800 to that balance too of, you know, 2427 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:56,720 building versus um preserving existing 2428 02:21:56,720 --> 02:21:59,520 >> as well. And I think to relate it just 2429 02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:03,359 Jeff opinion this was again my view is 2430 02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:05,439 that you know I don't believe it's been 2431 02:22:05,439 --> 02:22:07,040 written anywhere that that arbit it was 2432 02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,120 somewhat arbitrary how the the money was 2433 02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:10,800 divvied up between green and affordable 2434 02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:11,920 balancing I don't think that's really 2435 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:13,840 ordained anywhere and I think the bond 2436 02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:16,479 offering uh contemplated the construct 2437 02:22:16,479 --> 02:22:18,960 of both of them and did not specifically 2438 02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:21,920 call out that money. We have had we have 2439 02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:24,240 had one green project and that was the 2440 02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:26,399 installation of the solar roofs at the 2441 02:22:26,399 --> 02:22:28,160 basically the high school and the middle 2442 02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:28,960 school 2443 02:22:28,960 --> 02:22:30,640 >> and we're not we don't have anything on 2444 02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:33,359 deck to to use that money for the 2445 02:22:33,359 --> 02:22:35,680 question% of the bond money. 2446 02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:37,920 >> Exactly. So could we use the green money 2447 02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:39,600 >> and I and again that's not a decision 2448 02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:41,359 for me to make but that would that would 2449 02:22:41,359 --> 02:22:42,319 open up the 2450 02:22:42,319 --> 02:22:45,040 >> that would open up the available 2451 02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:46,640 >> that's over my hands too. It's all good. 2452 02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:48,720 >> Can't steal the green money. 2453 02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:50,160 So that's that's my plan. 2454 02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:51,120 >> The green money. 2455 02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:53,200 >> Why? 2456 02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:54,080 >> No, but 2457 02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:55,280 >> I get um 2458 02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:57,520 >> but just removing the money. Like it's 2459 02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:59,760 like this is such semantics. 2460 02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:02,479 >> Like I get it. I'm sure we can figure it 2461 02:23:02,479 --> 02:23:04,880 out on the back end. I think we all 2462 02:23:04,880 --> 02:23:07,040 agree on it. We're going to talk 2463 02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:09,439 ourselves in a circle. 2464 02:23:09,439 --> 02:23:12,240 I I I would say whatever you want. We'll 2465 02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:14,479 tell Doug he'll get it done and we'll 2466 02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:17,520 vote on it. Let's go there 2467 02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:20,000 >> on the on the bond money. I'd have to go 2468 02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:21,600 back and [clears throat] look at this, 2469 02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:25,600 but I mean there was it's not in the 2470 02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:27,920 ballot question, but it was specifically 2471 02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:29,840 I know contemplated 2472 02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:31,920 >> how that money would be allocated 2473 02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:34,160 between the three purposes at the time 2474 02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:36,720 it was put forward because there was, 2475 02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,479 you know, rough estimates for 2476 02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:40,160 calculations of the work on Midland and 2477 02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:42,080 so on and so forth. And so, and I I 2478 02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:44,000 don't recall if that was in like recital 2479 02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,080 to the ordinance that submitted the 2480 02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:49,040 ballot question or or not, but just 2481 02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:52,800 before we rush into reallocating money 2482 02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:55,600 related for for green purposes, I just 2483 02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:56,880 would 2484 02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:58,960 >> want to take and we're not doing that 2485 02:23:58,960 --> 02:23:59,200 today. 2486 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:00,319 >> Yeah. Yeah. 2487 02:24:00,319 --> 02:24:01,439 >> We we have either 2488 02:24:01,439 --> 02:24:02,880 >> an example, but I don't think we're 2489 02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:04,240 looking to do that. 2490 02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:05,680 >> We're going to have either an 8 million 2491 02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:14,080 or uh an $ 8.1 million gap. a different kettle of fish than uh trying 2492 02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:16,560 Yeah, that's another conversation. We're 2493 02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:20,399 I think for tonight the 100,000 is or so 2494 02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:22,319 is what we got to figure out if we want 2495 02:24:22,319 --> 02:24:25,280 to source that from uh but the salt the 2496 02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:27,439 bond money and I I would support doing 2497 02:24:27,439 --> 02:24:28,240 that. 2498 02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:30,080 >> Yeah. 2499 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:34,070 is my support. 2500 02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:35,840 » Mayor, I move the town council adopt 2501 02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:39,040 resolution number 20 series of 2026 with 2502 02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:40,800 the change of the money coming from the 2503 02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:42,720 bond fund instead of 2504 02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:43,439 >> STR and lodging 2505 02:24:43,439 --> 02:24:45,200 >> the S str and lodging tax. 2506 02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:46,560 >> Second. 2507 02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,000 >> All right, it's been moved and seconded. 2508 02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:51,295 Uh Pam, will you please call the role? 2509 02:24:51,295 --> 02:24:52,080 [clears throat] 2510 02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:54,960 >> Okay, let's begin with Angela Anderson. 2511 02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:55,920 >> Yes. 2512 02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:58,319 >> Rick Stevens. 2513 02:24:58,319 --> 02:24:59,920 Um, 2514 02:24:59,920 --> 02:25:01,520 yes. 2515 02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:03,120 >> Angel Dup Prebuchart. 2516 02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:04,000 >> Yes. 2517 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:04,960 >> Ryan Slack. 2518 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:05,600 >> Yes. 2519 02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:06,479 >> David Knight. 2520 02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:06,880 >> Yes. 2521 02:25:06,880 --> 02:25:07,920 >> Deer Schindler. 2522 02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:08,319 >> Yes. 2523 02:25:08,319 --> 02:25:09,280 >> Hannah Berman. 2524 02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:09,840 >> Yes. 2525 02:25:09,840 --> 02:25:12,399 >> Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. 2526 02:25:12,399 --> 02:25:14,720 >> As a caveat though, I think that, you 2527 02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:16,800 know, just running numbers in my head 2528 02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,520 here. If someone was to come in with a 2529 02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:22,160 million half dollar 2530 02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:25,359 purchase and apply for 30% 2531 02:25:25,359 --> 02:25:30,560 from the fund, they would get $450,000 2532 02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:32,720 if Eagle County and Basalt still agreed 2533 02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:35,280 to the same policy. Where's where's the 2534 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,920 cap, you know, and how fast can this six 2535 02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:41,200 million be exhausted if people that are 2536 02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:43,200 willing in this, you know, a different 2537 02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,800 market um to come in and you offer their 2538 02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:49,680 home up for sale with a deed restriction 2539 02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:52,880 attached with the current benefit 2540 02:25:52,880 --> 02:25:54,960 attached and then not have to and then 2541 02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:56,560 the purchaser doesn't have to come up. 2542 02:25:56,560 --> 02:25:59,439 The purchaser just has to qualify for 2543 02:25:59,439 --> 02:26:01,439 the 70% of the original purchase price 2544 02:26:01,439 --> 02:26:03,680 with no down payment. It's it's kind of 2545 02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:05,439 a slippery slope, I think, at the end of 2546 02:26:05,439 --> 02:26:08,880 the day. And the bond proceeds are are 2547 02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:11,439 six million bucks. That's it. 2548 02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:14,399 >> Well, we Well, we don't have six million 2549 02:26:14,399 --> 02:26:14,800 more. 2550 02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:17,359 >> It's a it's a fair point. I mean, I But 2551 02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:19,520 in my mind, we have a we had a h 100,000 2552 02:26:19,520 --> 02:26:21,280 that we've been budgeting for at least 2553 02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,280 one if not two years, right? 2554 02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:26,160 >> And now we've allocated that. So if if 2555 02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:27,680 there are more requests for deed 2556 02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:28,960 restrictions, we're going to have to 2557 02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:31,040 have a different conversation because 2558 02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:33,040 there is no more money budget if this 2559 02:26:33,040 --> 02:26:34,000 was our 2560 02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:37,520 >> in town potentially. I think there is 2561 02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:39,840 >> if people but we could that would be a 2562 02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:40,960 different 2563 02:26:40,960 --> 02:26:42,319 >> you know we'd have to basically be 2564 02:26:42,319 --> 02:26:43,840 reappropriating or appropriating 2565 02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:45,439 additional funds. So 2566 02:26:45,439 --> 02:26:47,439 >> but back to the original like intent 2567 02:26:47,439 --> 02:26:49,920 though is that what this decision in my 2568 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:52,720 mind allows us to do is to if the 2569 02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:56,560 council wanted to give more to West M up 2570 02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:58,080 their contribution to West Mountain 2571 02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:00,160 Regional Housing Coalition 2572 02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:01,680 >> comes from another 2573 02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:03,840 >> because it can come from STR and lodging 2574 02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:06,399 fees which has a broader use 2575 02:27:06,399 --> 02:27:10,399 >> uh allowance and that can still help buy 2576 02:27:10,399 --> 02:27:12,640 you know buy down houses outside of the 2577 02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:14,880 town boundaries. So it doesn't h that's 2578 02:27:14,880 --> 02:27:16,160 the whole point is that like doesn't h 2579 02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:18,560 we don't have to use bond money. It's 2580 02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:20,720 very unusual, I think. I mean, to find 2581 02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:22,800 someone that can afford a mortgage on a 2582 02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:24,800 million dollars, which is what the 2583 02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:26,880 homeowner still has to do, I think it's 2584 02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:30,640 the limiting factor. 2585 02:27:30,640 --> 02:27:32,319 >> Um, yes, 2586 02:27:32,319 --> 02:27:33,840 >> that's [laughter] 2587 02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:35,520 narrow. 2588 02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:38,399 >> Yeah. Market for that. 2589 02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:39,439 >> Anyways, 2590 02:27:39,439 --> 02:27:42,640 >> all right. Um, well, thank you all. And, 2591 02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:46,000 uh, next up we have, um, our, uh, an 2592 02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:47,520 executive session. So, I'd entertain a 2593 02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:48,319 motion. May there 2594 02:27:48,319 --> 02:27:49,840 >> mayor move the town council enter 2595 02:27:49,840 --> 02:27:51,600 executive session to discuss personnel 2596 02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:55,750 matters in accordance to CRS24-6-424F, 2597 02:27:55,760 --> 02:27:59,439 more specifically town manager review. 2598 02:27:59,439 --> 02:28:00,479 >> Second. 2599 02:28:00,479 --> 02:28:02,000 >> It's been moved and seconded. All those 2600 02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:04,479 in favor, please signify by saying I. 2601 02:28:04,479 --> 02:28:06,160 >> I. 2602 02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:08,000 >> So, thank you very much. We're going to 2603 02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:09,920 move into executive session in a moment. 2604 02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:11,680 Um, when that is and so we're going to 2605 02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:14,240 cut the uh TV feed. When that is over, 2606 02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:17,120 the meeting will be adjourned. So, uh, 2607 02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:19,600 those watching online, good night. And 2608 02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:23,040 uh take a few moments here to set