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Good evening everyone. It is now 6:30.
It is July 14th and it's time to start

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the regular city council meeting.
If you can all please stand with me

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as we send uh do the pledge of
allegiance. We have Gib Gibson Hilton

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here to do it with us.
>> Will you please join me for the pledge?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
Honor the Texas flag. I pledge

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allegiance to thee, Texas, one state
under God, one and indivisible.

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» All right, thank you Gibson.
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I just shot I got the picture.
Okay, awesome. Well, you got it right

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there in a different spot. So, thank
you. We appreciate you. You say say say

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it there with a lot of authority and
pride. So, thank you.

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All right, uh Chaplin Dale Burke was
supposed to be here for the invocation,

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but he is not here, so we will have
Councilman Lowe

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do the invocation for us, please.

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» Bow your heads, please. Heavenly Father,
we come before you with gratitude

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uh for the opportunity
to serve our community.

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Uh we ask your wisdom as we consider
decisions we make tonight.

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Help us listen with open minds and speak
with kindness.

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Guide this council to seek what is
right, fair,

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beneficial to the all of our residents
of these cities.

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Give us the courage to put our needs
above the uh com- above the personal

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interests and humility to work with
those

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that we disagree with.
We pray with our first responders, city

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staff, volunteers,
local businesses, and every family who

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calls Bastrop home.
May everything we do tonight bring glory

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and honor to your name. In your son
Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

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Thank you Councilman Lowe.
All right. Got a good sized house in

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here tonight. Welcome. Welcome.
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we'll go through the our reports. Uh,
we'll do the mayor's reports. It's been

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a few weeks since we've had a council
meeting and so in that time I've been

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pretty busy but I won't hit you with
everything.

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But yeah, it's almost something on the
daily which I love. It's good. But um,

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just want to give um,
uh, congratulations to uh,

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to those students, adult students who
uh, graduated from the Community Action

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and Corporation of Central Texas Adult
Education Graduation Program. Uh, it's a

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GED program for adults or and they also
had ESL students in there as well.

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Uh, it was it was pretty nice to hear
their stories, uh, how they were over

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able to overcome the hurdles and some,
you know, it took them 15 years, 20

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years from teenage years to finally uh,
get their GED but it is a life long

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accomplishment for some. Uh, there was
even one one mother who came up to me

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um, in tears cuz she was able to
resonate with my story because about

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being an underdog and overcoming and
going the distance and and her son went

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through a lot to get there. So it was it
was pretty nice to see that and it's

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good to see people don't give up. Um,
also, uh, let's see.

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Um, we had the Bastrop County Emergency
Food Drive that has gone on for

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a little while. I was able to attend it
that same day.

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Um, think we have someone here to speak
on their behalf and so I won't spoil all

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of it, but um last I had saw together
the community

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uh raised almost 3,000 lb of food for
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county of Bastrop for the pantry. So,
that was that was fantastic and it was

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great to be a part of that.
Um I want to give a little shout out.

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Y'all know I'm all about the kids. Uh I
want to give a shout out to our youth

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baseball team, the 8U team, uh for BYSO.
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can't remember the full acronym. But
anyway, they're they're traveling um

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this year. They made the Little League
World Series. And so, if the community

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can get behind them and support those
young guys,

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um they got a real good team, real good
camaraderie. They played together for a

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while. I know they're just eight, but um
they stand a real good chance to go

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pretty far.
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team. They finished fourth in the Little
League World Series. They didn't get to

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progress,
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it's a lot of young young ladies on that
team that did a fantastic job. So, I got

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to spend some time with those kids and
wish them well and and really just uh

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see what they had going on.
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then uh the week of 4th of July was a
super busy week. I'm sure we all have

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something that we did that week. Um I
know uh Councilman Lowe and uh Council

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Member Meyer, they joined me to
celebrate Michael Thomas. Uh he turned

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98 and the the man looks young. He looks
like he's like 65, but he's um

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he's a World War II veteran, Korean War
veteran. Um went to the Senior Center to

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celebrate his birthday with him. Uh it
was a real good event. Um great group of

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folks. I got to get over there and get
to dancing with them on a Tuesday night.

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So, maybe when we don't have a council
meeting, I'll be able to to get over

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there with them.
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celebrated uh the 4th of July here in
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um Um,
the big bang celebration at the park.

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So, it was just a fantastic fun time in
the community for me uh being out

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amongst everyone, enjoying the people,
the vibes, the camaraderie, and watching

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our community go grow. So, uh I won't
take up any more time and I'll pass it

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on to Councilmember Fossler.
>> Thank you, Mayor. I'll do a report a

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look ahead report and announcement of
what's coming up. Uh for this Thursday,

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for Hunters Crossing residents, if you
live in Hunters Crossing or have a

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business in Hunters Crossing, come to
the convention center on Thursday, this

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Thursday at 6:30 p.m. It's a joint
meeting between the Hunters Crossing

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Public Improvement District, the Local
Government Corporation, and the Hunters

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Crossing Homeowners Association board.
It's regarding the maintenance and

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possible transfer of ownership of some
of the common areas. One of those being

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the parcel that the pool is on. So, I
expect to see some live wheeling and

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dealing in the moment at the convention
center. So, if you have any interests,

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um this is really going to be a special
night because all the interested parties

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are finally ready to resolve all these
lingering details. So, I expect an

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action-packed meeting on Thursday at the
convention center.

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Um this Friday, Saturday, and Sunday,
there will be a memorial and exhibit at

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the Bridges Emporium for a beautiful
Bastrop County art artist that we lost

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in a tragic car accident a few days ago.
Um Yvonne Winter is her name, and um all

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proceeds from the exhibit will go to her
family, her very shocked family. She was

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a bright light and an incredible artist
and is very missed. So, Yvonne Winter is

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her name.
Um Coming up this weekend, also Friday

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is the Corvette Invasion. It starts
Friday night, and the the light show

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starts at 9:00 p.m. From 9:00 to 9:30,
it's called Lights, Camera, Corvettes at

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the convention center parking lot, and
then the um car show starts the next day

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at 9:00 a.m. with the awards at 1:00
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Saturday night is the CASA fundraiser.
It's a sock hop and it's at the

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Smithville Recreation Center on Saturday
night. There are tickets available

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still.
Also Saturday night, it's the

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Film Alley's last stand-up comedy. It's
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He's hilarious.
He's very funny. It will sell out soon.

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There are a few tickets left
but and they are on the Film Alley

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website.
And then next Wednesday, if y'all Have

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y'all heard about data centers?
There's a data center town hall being

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hosted at the Hampton Inn next Wednesday
at 6:30 p.m. It's hosted by the Bastrop

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County GOP, the Bastrop County
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the League of Independent Voters. So all
those parties are hosting this town hall

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and we also Texas Agriculture
Commissioner Sid Miller will be speaking

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at the beginning. So space is limited.
It's a big room but but please if you're

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interested, please come on the early
side cuz you don't if you want to be in

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the room then you don't want to be
you don't want to miss it. And then next

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Thursday is the volunteer and resource
fair at the Bastrop Convention Center

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for all of our boards and commissions
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that's at the convention center next
Thursday 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. Last one

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y'all.
Next Saturday, which is

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July 25th from 3:00 to 7:00 in downtown
Bastrop is our Christmas in July. It's a

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lemonade crawl and it's free but please
register on the Discover Bastrop

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website. Thanks y'all. I know it's a lot
but there's a lot of cool stuff going on

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even in this heat. Thank you.

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» All right. Thank you, Councilmember
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Councilmember Plunkett, let me guess.
>> Actually, I think I did hear something

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that she didn't include, but
>> Whoa.

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There was a There was a list, so
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» I thought she had everyone covered.
>> So, um

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Main Street uh
the first the two blocks of Main Street

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will I believe will be closed on
Saturday night uh after the Corvette

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invasion. Uh that's the
you know, bad news if you want to call

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it. The good news is all the winners
from the Corvette invasion will be

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parked out in front of the businesses
there. So, that'll be a cool way to see

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the cream of the crop.
So, uh does anybody know the times on

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that? I was looking it up, but I didn't
see it.

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Thank you, Michaela. 6:30 6:30 to 9:00
is when uh Main Street will be closed.

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» How'd you make your voice sound like a
microphone?

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Uh okay, there you go.
All right, thank you, Councilman

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Replogle. And Council uh Mayor Pro Tem
Kirkland.

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» So, Michaela, I got another question for
you. Who was responsible for the

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alternate layout at the Farm Street
Opry?

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» That was Carly Davenport.
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wherever you are, thank you. That was
fabulous.

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Uh the first Thursday of the month, I
was the master of ceremonies at the Farm

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Street Opry. One of my favorite
activities I get to do here on council.

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And uh the entire room layout was
different. They had moved the dance

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floor up close to the band, and it made
the entire activity much more

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interactive.
Uh you know, up on the stage, I loved

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seeing it all, and then the audience as
well got to kind of interact with the

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dancing as it took place. Instead of the
dancing being in the far back of the

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room in almost a unlit corner. So, uh I
think that that just added a tremendous

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amount of life uh and audience
participate participation, and then the

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two music guests were just uh absolutely
fabulous. So,

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great job uh to the team on that one.
And then uh yes, Corvette invasion

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Friday night, the lights thing the
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a.m. on Saturday at the Convention
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uh all day long we'll have uh Corvettes.
It's like 370 Corvettes. It'll be the

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biggest show uh of Corvette Invasion
we've had here in Bastrop, and it is the

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largest Corvette
uh show in the state of Texas. And I

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have a classic 1963 Corvette, and I will
be there in the It's called the C2

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class. It's the second body style of
Corvettes, and so you can stop by and

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say hi to me as well.
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» Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Kirkman. Just
real quick before I get to you,

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Councilmember Meyer, um you just made me
think of something uh when you brought

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up staff. I just want to give a huge
shout-out to Warren Turner. He works

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with the water and wastewater department
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Um
KXAN was here doing a report on the um

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newspaper, I mean on on the hospital,
and um he saw that they were broken

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down, and he decided to do a good deed
and pull over and give them a jump so

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that they could be on their merry way.
It allowed them to be able to break the

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story, and so I just want to say
Warren Turner, thank you

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for for being a good steward of the
community and being a helpful person and

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showing what Bastrop's all about. All
right, Councilmember Meyer.

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» Thank you, Mayor.
Uh among the 4th of July activities that

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um I attended, one was so special. It
was the uh Spirit of the Declaration of

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Independence concert at the Performing
Arts Center, uh performed by the Bastrop

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County uh Historical Commission, and it
was just amazing. The music and and the

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program were so heartwarming. It really
got you in the in the spirit uh for our

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two 250th uh birthday. So, that was
amazing. Also, following that was our

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Fame Days, and it was uh the night
before the big bang was the theme. It

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was on Spring Street, and I just want to
give a huge shout-out to Discover

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Bastrop for the FAME days, Friday Art
Music Entertainment, FAME, that's what

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that stands for. And there was such a
fun cake walk, and there was a hot dog

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eating competition, and just a lot of
fun things to get you in the mood for

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the next morning, which is one of my
favorite events of the whole year. It

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was the Pet and Pal's parade, where all
the animals of every kind that you can

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imagine, chickens, rabbits, dogs, you
name it, were all decorated for the 4th,

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and their owners all decorated. So, that
is one of my most favorite times in this

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whole city is the Pet and Pal's parade.
So, it was amazing.

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And after that, there were so many great
things going around town that everybody

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else has hit on. I just want you to be
aware of something happening this coming

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Saturday downtown at our museum on Main
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is Music in the Museum from 12:00 to
1:00, and they have amazing musicians

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there, bluegrass, every kind of music
that you could want to hear. And it's

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all relaxed, and it's so fun. So, please
try to make the museum

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this weekend, and I'm going to throw a
little teaser out because

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almost my favorite thing of this whole
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end of July and the 1st of August. It's
called the Bastrop Homecoming Rodeo. So,

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more on that at the next council
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» All right.
>> Thank you, Council Member Meyer. Council

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Member Below.
>> Yeah.

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I wrote a song called What's Left for
Us, and

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I don't know. I look like I'm singing
that refrain.

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No.
I just want to talk about the Spring

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Fest. We went down to Spring Fest, and
that was a good time.

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I got to take my dog Lucky,
and he

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was getting acclimated. He did all
right, uh but it was a great event. Uh

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it was well attended
um and uh it was really a good time. So,

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uh I want to um
thank uh them for that. Um also, too,

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lastly, um
um our community thrives uh because of

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the people who help step up and shape
its future. If you want to make a direct

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impact on Bastrop's
and vibrant culture of Bastrop, I

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strongly encourage you to look at
joining a board or commission that's

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coming up.
Whether your passion is parks planning

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or historic preservation, there's a
place for you at the table. So, check

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out the current openings on the website
and see how you can get involved today.

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Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Member Lowe. Yeah,

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Spring Festival was fun.
Um I knew the secret identity of

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Spider-Man, too. So.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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» All right. Thank you, guys. Now, we're
on to our city manager's report.

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» If you guys are tired of talking about
it, imagine how tired we are of doing

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it.
Right, y'all?

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All right. So, um I want to start off
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issue. Um we had some medical uh two
folks had medical issues down in the

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park that required medical attention.
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And so, yes, there was a delay in the
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Yes, there was a delay in the fireworks.
Folks left the park believing that we

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were done, and we were not done. Um
obviously, it's important to get folks

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to safety and get them the medical
attention they need. And so, for those

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of you that are upset, I'm sorry we
saved two lives.

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For those of you who understand, we
promise to be better next year.

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And we'll make it up. Uh we have a
surprise coming for homecoming, but I

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won't let that out of the bag.
And I do want to acknowledge um our

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missteps, staff's misstep, my misstep in
not creating a bigger 250th anniversary

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acknowledgement of this country's
birthday. We should have done better. We

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will be better, and we have addressed
the issues, and hopefully we don't ever

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have this type of misstep again to miss
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City Council retreat coming up uh July
30th and 31st in Fredericksburg. We're

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going to meet with their city officials,
and we will be meeting meeting in a city

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facility. Um it's a day and a half
event. You'll be back in time for the

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rodeo, I promise.
Um I also want to address over uh the

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first part of June and leading into the
4th of July uh events, there was a lot

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of chatter on social media about what we
allow and what political organizations

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do and don't. And number one, I'm happy
to see that our our three parties, our

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independents, and our Democrats uh and
uh Republicans could come together

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finally on something they all dislike,
and that would have been the city of

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Bastrop. So, yay. Uh
let's acknowledge that it's possible to

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come together when you have a you know,
a joint dislike for other government

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agency.
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in our uh and in their defense, the city
wasn't foreseeing staff wasn't

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foreseeing what we believed was an
adopted policy. And as we dug deep,

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right, it's not an adopted policy. It is
going to come to the council. Um and I

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remind everybody that free access for
everybody, that means the Wicca people

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get to sit right next to the Catholics.
So, we'll we will work through that um

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to ensure that everybody has equal
access, and that it remains enjoyable to

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everybody who wants to participate, that
they don't have to be, you know,

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uh sidelined as they're trying to travel
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Um we are uh discussing We have some
folks from our HLC group here. We are

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discussing a historic overlay on how we
further begin to protect historic

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Bastrop. We've made great strides. There
is a lot of work to do. The outside

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world continues to think Bastrop is
really cool, but in thinking there that

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we're really cool, they want to change
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Um and so, you know, we as a city are
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historic Bastrop or are we not? And so,
you have an item before you later on at

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these folks. I don't believe they're
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agenda. So, um we may either move it up,
Mayor, or let them speak as citizen

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comments.
Um you all missed a sit with Syl that

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happens tomorrow at 6:30 at the Road
House. And interestingly, you missed it,

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but you all show up. So, there you go.
And that's also a chance to just sit

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with me and and let me have it or
describe what we need, etc. And it is

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never a shortage of conversation. I'll
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Um we do have Get Involved Bastrop,
which is uh Council Member Lo alluded

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to. We are looking for folks on our
boards and commissions. We have a lot of

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folks who are beyond their term, and
we've allowed them to stay on because we

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don't have another person to fill the
spot. So, I'm hopeful that we have a

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slew of applications and we get going.
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Mayor who has a uh presentation or
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» All right. Thank you, Sylvia. All right.
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um
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introduction and then we'll have them
>> Come back to me after you're done.

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» Okay.
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» All right.
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Um they started up an organization, Jack
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scholarship funds for students to help
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workforce or or education.
Um to hear their story of how they got

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started is pretty cool.
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and you know um
From From what I've gathered from what I

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learned being around these guys really
really care about the community and and

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the younger generation.
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Jack, he wanted to to speak on Jack of
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And um yeah, I'll just leave it at that.
Sylvia, did you want to say something

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before he comes to speak?
>> No, let him speak and then we'll come

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back.
>> Okay. All right. So, Jack, yeah, I'll

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I'll let you do all the introduction.
Justin?

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» Justin Wallace.

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Face you? Face them?
>> Yeah, you You can face us.

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» Face you?
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And so, if if if y'all can do us a favor
so the people on

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the radio, TV, video land will know who
you are if you can just introduce

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yourselves and tell us who you're with
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then then go for it.
>> So, council and mayor, we appreciate the

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time to come in and speak with y'all.
More of the

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informative, not a complainant. Um
we do like to I'm Jack Prentiss with

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Jack of Hearts.
>> Justin Love with Jack of Hearts.

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» Jack Can y'all hit the microphone for
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it. We don't hear who We can't hear on
You know what I mean? So.

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» Justin Love with Jack of Hearts.
>> I'm Clayton Tissler, just a supporter

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» So, just a little backstory, a little
history with Jack of Hearts. We're 5 and

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1/2 years old.
Justin and I uh

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had a vision and a goal and decided that
we would start an organization that

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would be nonprofit to support and give
away scholarships to young men and women

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leaving Bastrop County High School
and would pursue trades.

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We're 5 years old this year being our
6th year, we've been blessed through the

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community and a lot of local businesses
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be
grateful that we've been able to give

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away almost 100 scholarships in 5 years
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I believe for a a program that's 5 years
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we're halfway through our 6th year and
to be able and blessed to give away a

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100 scholarships, basically we're about
few just two away from that.

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In 5 years is is a small feat
when you look at around at our programs

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that are here in Bastrop County and the
other things and other organizations and

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what they do.
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we have we've learned a lot, I can tell
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Doing business in Bastrop has been
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At different times it is not
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It's amazing to do business, but it's
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financial reasons.
Uh the biggest part of Jack of Hearts is

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supported through local businesses
and opportunities that Justin and I have

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created over these years to
do fundraisers.

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And in doing that, you know, it it puts
a small tax

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on a large problem in a small community.
We are just one group

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and then you add the Little League, you
add the high school, you add other other

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organizations that
it's probably not the right word, but we

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tax our community
with everyone else to help support our

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program.
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it doesn't take long
and all of your smaller businesses in

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Bastrop,
that money goes pretty quick. Their

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their budgets are spread pretty thin.
And in that process of doing business

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here in Bastrop, we use the Bastrop
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We have since this year moved up on the
hill there to Mayfest Park and we have

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future goal to use and utilize the rodeo
arena.

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Our two events a year is our banquet
coming up July 25th, the weekend after

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the invasion of the Corvettes.
So, we want to get on that list.

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We We want to be mentioned on that one,
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Uh
we have for 5 years from day one used

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the Bastrop Convention Center.
It's a great place. We've been blessed

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to put 5 to 800 people there
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And that's the same night that we give
away our scholarships.

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That's just one event. Then we have
another one in October that is Rednecks

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and Rockers. It's a barbecue cook-off
battle of the bands.

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Now that we've moved up here on the hill
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we have intentions of growing. And with
growing, we know that that's going to

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cost more money in the future.
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that cook-off is typically 2 days and we
are Our goal by 2028

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is to make it a 3-day music festival
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That's our second event. We do not give
away scholarships. That is just a help

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to support the scholarships that we give
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Then at Thanksgiving, we've been blessed
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to help an organization that is no
longer going to be

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there. Justin and I, Jack of Hearts, our
crew, we're taking over that event. This

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year we were blessed to feed 350
families at Thanksgiving.

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Not only that, but we were blessed to
have the mayor there.

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You know, out of his day he'd come and
spend some time with us and and fix

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plates and run them out to cars and
things like that. So,

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it's nice to see
the community giving back to us and to

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be a part of what we're doing and to be
recognized at those times

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not for who we are, but for what we're
doing. Because we're going to do that

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with the city council or without. We're
going to do that with the community

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helping us or not. We're going to be
there to to help do what we like to do

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and what what feels great for us and to
help others that need it at a great

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time.

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I'm not complaining, but I will say that
to do these events and for us to grow as

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a non-profit,
and we are a true non-profit.

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We do not show up every day for Jack of
Hearts. Justin and I have full-time

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jobs. Jack of Hearts is a second
full-time job that does not pay a nickel

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to us.
So, when we're out there getting after

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it and
hitting up our community to help support

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us financially,
it puts a strain on a lot of things.

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To use the Bass Drop Convention Center
in the last 5 years, it's went from

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$3,200
to $3,900 this year. I just opened the

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invoice 2 nights ago.
And I laid that down and said, "Okay,

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that's
it's time to talk about it a little

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bit."
And in that process, we've learned

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we have security that would gladly
donate their time.

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They're not city They're not city
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This is the constable's department.
I would like for it to be a

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consideration. And I'm not sure that
this is even the correct place, but just

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as a
as I said, we're not here complaining.

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We're just here to
to help

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show
what we do and the places that we could

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use some help.

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Officers donate their time for our
events.

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And our future of using city facilities,
I understand that we're going to need

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more security for different events.
And when you look at the tax dollars and

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the dollars that we are bringing to
town, and then you look at the

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opportunities that we have to get some
help back from a donation,

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well, that's not that's not acceptable
right this minute.

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So, I'm hoping in the future that we as
nonprofit and other nonprofits, because

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it's not just us in this town that is
faced with this.

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A lot of us are. As a nonprofit,
I know others that I have sat and

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visited with.
They are facing the same issues that we

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are. We're a small community. We're
growing tremendously. Our businesses

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support as much as they can. So, when we
can get a break, we need one. If a

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constable's department can help do our
security,

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and they donate their time, these are
things that we would like to be

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considered in the future that would help
us tremendously.

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Lastly, before I
turn it over to Justin,

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I appreciate being in this town. Been
here 9 years.

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And in 9 years I've been doing this kind
of work for 5 years

415
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,720
to give back to Bastrop.

416
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:50,520
It is a blessing to give back to our
community.

417
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:55,880
The people here are so acceptance. They
accept what we're there to for. We do

418
00:30:53,160 --> 00:31:01,360
our best to help anywhere we can as we
can.

419
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:06,200
To give away 20 scholarships a year
at our banquet and to see those families

420
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,720
and to be a part of what they are and
who they are and how we can interreact

421
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,720
with them and change young men and
women,

422
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,920
keep them here at home and help support
them

423
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,960
to put back into our community, that's a
blessing.

424
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Little by little we're growing.
We have no intentions of going anywhere,

425
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,680
but we don't want to be forced out of
town because we can't afford to do

426
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:38,120
business here as a non-profit, either.
Now, in the future, as we grow and y'all

427
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:42,360
are able to grow in in opportunities,
please consider

428
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,440
as a non-profit that
we're doing our best.

429
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:52,240
The keyword to that is no profit
because every dollar we take in in this

430
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,560
town, we put back into this town through
small businesses and same families.

431
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:02,400
Thank y'all for your time. I'm going to
let Justin have a turn here to talk and

432
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:06,720
then Mr. Tischler is going to speak on
our behalf just from a little bit of

433
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:13,160
knowledge of of what he knows of Jack
O'Hearts and his experiences with us.

434
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:18,680
» Thank you, Jack.
Ladies and gentlemen, council members,

435
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,360
thank you.
I moved here the summer of '88.

436
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,840
I was 14.
I've been here ever since.

437
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,400
I haven't left.
Some of you I know very well, Mr. Lowe.

438
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,320
We know
We go way back.

439
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:41,840
This is my home.
And what Jack and I have done the past

440
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:46,640
5 and 1/2 years is
pretty groundbreaking for a lot of in

441
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,440
simplest terms.
Jack and I have known each other

442
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,080
since he moved here. We threw darts
together in a dart league at the

443
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,480
American Legion right up right up on the
hill.

444
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Slowly but surely we began to
develop a friendship and through that we

445
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,840
had talked about well, what do you like
to do or how would you like to give back

446
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,280
to this community cuz we've talked about
it for years. And I said, man, I'd I'd

447
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:16,000
really like to do this.
At the same time he's been doing it for

448
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:21,360
20 some years in East Texas.
So we sort of do some ideas together and

449
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:26,680
one night after darts we're sitting
there in the the back hall and

450
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,520
he said, "Do you have any money?" I
said, "No, sir, I don't have any on me."

451
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Said, "Do you?"
He said, "No."

452
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,960
I said, "Wait a minute.
You got a quarter?"

453
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,960
Cuz I pulled out a quarter out of my
pocket.

454
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:46,400
And uh he said, "Actually, I do." So we
do them on the table and at that very

455
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:50,720
moment 50 cents later Jack of Hearts was
born.

456
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:54,920
And that's how we started.
And we're not slowing down and we don't

457
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:59,480
want to slow down.
We just want to keep doing the best that

458
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,280
we know that we that we can
and we want to keep giving back to our

459
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,120
community
and to these young men and women that a

460
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,920
lot of
a lot of their teachers and their

461
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,520
counselors they may not look at them the
same way that we do.

462
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,520
They may see them as
different.

463
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,760
We see them as hard working.
You know, they may see them as a problem

464
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,679
child.
We might see them as a

465
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:29,600
» mechanic
>> mechanic or a welder, truck driver

466
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,720
electrician, plumber
everything that makes this country go

467
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:37,720
around is because of these kids.
And some of these kids are

468
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:42,399
wrenching on cars or working with their
uncles or their grandfathers who own a

469
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,520
plumbing company or own a a mechanic
shop or are and they are a truck driver

470
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,639
and they just want to do the same
things.

471
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Some of these kids may not be the best
academically,

472
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,760
but their hearts are in the right place
and they know what they want to do for a

473
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,880
future.
And that goes back to like what Jack and

474
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:05,640
I have always talked about. We
we just want to leave this place,

475
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,880
you know, we just want to leave this
this world a better place than than the

476
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,440
way that we that than the way that we
found it.

477
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:16,280
And that's what we're striving to do
with these kids.

478
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,720
So again, thank you all for your time.
And I'm going to turn it over to Mr.

479
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,760
Tishler
and he's going to conclude. Thank you.

480
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,760
» Thank you, Justin.

481
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:32,760
Mayor, council members, thank you for
giving us the opportunity to speak

482
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:37,880
today. Um my name is Clayton Tishler.
I've lived in uh Riverside Grove here in

483
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:43,320
Bastrop for the last 12 years and I was
honored when um Jack and Justin asked me

484
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:47,120
to come speak on their behalf. Um I am
not a member of the organization. I am

485
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:51,440
just a supporter that has been
supporting it for uh several years and I

486
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:57,320
wanted to go over that experience with
y'all. Um my very first interaction with

487
00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Jack of Hearts was in 2023 when my son
Billy received one of their scholarships

488
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:07,400
and I'll never forget that day. They
didn't just award him the financial

489
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:11,480
help, that also made him feel seen. They
made him feel valued. They showed him

490
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:16,640
that Bastrop believes in its young
tradesmen and the future they represent.

491
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:22,200
That scholarship gave him confidence and
direction and it showed me what kind of

492
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:27,080
organization that Jack of Hearts is.
But now the real one came in with my

493
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:32,200
second experience with them. It was just
as powerful. A local sheriff officer was

494
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,720
injured in the line of duty and the
community came together to support him.

495
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:42,760
Jack of Hearts didn't did not hesitate.
They stepped in with major support,

496
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,760
time, resources, fundraising, whatever
was needed. They didn't ask whether it

497
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:51,160
fit their mission, they didn't ask what
was in it for them. They saw simply saw

498
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:54,720
a member of our community hurting and
said, "We're here."

499
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,640
So, that moment told me everything I
needed to know that Jack of Hearts isn't

500
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:03,080
just about tradesmen, they're about
Bastrop, they're about people, they're

501
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,920
about stepping up when someone needs
help. Since then, I've seen them at

502
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:12,480
fundraiser after fundraiser for families
facing medical crisis, for people who

503
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,200
have lost loved ones, for community
members who simply need a hand. I've

504
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:22,440
watched them donate their time, their
labor, their money. I've seen them

505
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,720
quietly show up without being asked and
stay long after others have gone home.

506
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:32,080
And then, every Thanksgiving, they host
meal for those in need. They make sure

507
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:38,240
people who might not otherwise have a
warm plate or a warm place to be to have

508
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:41,320
food. That's not just charity, that's
community.

509
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,200
That's compassion and that's the heart
of Bastrop.

510
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Organizations like Jack of Hearts are
the backbone of this city. They fill

511
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:54,240
gaps that government alone cannot fill.
They lift people up in ways that don't

512
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:58,600
always make headlines and absolutely
change lives. And they're not alone.

513
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:03,280
Bastrop has many nonprofits that do
incredible work every day.

514
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:08,640
That is why I'm here today not to talk
about any specific issues, but to ask

515
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:13,680
that we continue to support and whenever
possible reduce the burdens placed on

516
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,480
the nonprofits that give so much of
themselves to this community.

517
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,520
When we make it easier for the
nonprofits to operate, they can give

518
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:27,880
more back. When we reduce unnecessary
costs, their impact grows. When we

519
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:33,240
recognize and honor donated time,
donated services, and donated resources,

520
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:37,760
we strengthen the very organizations
that strengthen Bastrop.

521
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Every dollar a nonprofit doesn't have to
spend on administrative or procedural

522
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,520
requirements is a dollar that goes
directly back into helping the families,

523
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:52,880
supporting youth, feeding the hungry,
and lifting up people in crisis. It's a

524
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:57,400
dollar that goes back into Bastrop.
Jack of Hearts have shown up for this

525
00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:01,400
community again and again. My family is
living proof of this of the difference

526
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:06,720
they make. Many families in this city
can say the same. I'm asking that we as

527
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:12,000
a city continue to show up for them and
for all the nonprofits who make Bastrop

528
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,000
a better, kinder, stronger pace place to
live.

529
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Thank you for your time and thank you
for your commitment to the people of

530
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,320
Bastrop.
>> All right. Thank you, Clayton.

531
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,880
Council, do we have any questions or
anything for these gentlemen?

532
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,640
All right. Sylvia, you said you had
something.

533
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,480
» Uh not related to this.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you, guys. We

534
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
appreciate it.
>> Thank you.

535
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,280
» Uh well, to the mayor and council
related to this item, I just want to

536
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,600
clarify a few things. One, they're a
nonprofit, so they'd qualify for a 15%

537
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:50,360
discount on the rate.
Um and two, we use a system called

538
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:55,200
BadgeHire for police and uh patrol at
events. Um I think we've communicated

539
00:39:53,160 --> 00:40:01,320
that their sheriff's volunteer can go
through that system and put a cost of

540
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:05,360
zero, uh and that can still happen in
that manner. There's just a process to

541
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:10,480
make sure there is coverage at those
type of events where especially where

542
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,480
alcohol is served.

543
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:19,280
» Thank you. We appreciate that. That is
the uh first time that we've heard of a

544
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,800
15% discount.
>> Mhm.

545
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,840
» Uh we've been using the the uh chamber
or the uh

546
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:31,400
the convention center now for 5 years
and this being our sixth year.

547
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:36,320
» Well, I'm verifying with staff whether
or not the price you were quoted

548
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,720
uh was actually with or without the 15%
but I'll get with you guys in a minute.

549
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,560
The staff member that you need to talk
to is back at the table. She'll come

550
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,360
find you here just a second.
>> Well, thank you very much for uh

551
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:50,560
letting us know that and
I appreciate y'all's time. Thank you.

552
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560
» Thank you.

553
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:57,800
» Uh so I'll go quickly over um Buttonwood
from Wilson. I know Buttonwood is a

554
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,960
topic of conversation for a couple of
folks on the internet, so I wanted to

555
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:07,800
give you guys We installed 750 ft of new
water main. Oh, that's that's not 750

556
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:12,360
in. That's 750 ft. New water main and
replaced five water services. We also

557
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:17,440
made five sewer point repairs.
Um also on the water wastewater side, we

558
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:22,120
are going to be doing smoke testing on
the July 20th, the week of July 20th,

559
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,320
which is next week. So if you see smoke
coming out of some of your sewer

560
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,480
connections in the front yard, please
don't freak out. We're doing that on

561
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:34,280
purpose. The purpose of that is to um
identify areas where there are leaks and

562
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,680
infiltration.
Um the boil water notice, you got that

563
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,920
as soon as I got it this morning, has
been lifted. And I just want to remind

564
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,960
everybody that a boil water notice is
standard when we lose pressure that

565
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:49,480
quickly.
No contaminants in the water. Um and

566
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,320
then, you know, addressing Mayfest Park,
we do have preparations underway for

567
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:57,240
homecoming. The covers are scheduled to
be installed this coming Monday. The

568
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:01,480
crews were laying the foundation this
week with installation next week for the

569
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:06,480
bleachers. And so I'm hoping the rain
lets up enough that we can get that uh

570
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:10,040
done. We will be putting together a
small group of volunteers for this

571
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:14,520
weekend and next weekend to get small
stuff done, the painting of the pipes

572
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,160
and things like we did last year, so.
That's what I have.

573
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,600
» All right.
Thank you, Sylvia. Appreciate it.

574
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,600
All right.

575
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:31,960
On to agenda item 4D,
uh proclamation for park and recreation

576
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960
month.

577
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:42,360
So, as you know, Bastrop has some really
nice parks. We have a awesome park and

578
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:48,040
rec team and program,
and it's only going to get better,

579
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,040
for sure. So,

580
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:54,440
whereas parks and recreation is an
integral part of the communities

581
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,040
throughout this country, including the
city of Bastrop, and whereas parks and

582
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:03,040
recreation promotes health and wellness,
improving the physical and mental health

583
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,640
of people who live near parks,
and whereas parks and recreation

584
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,920
promotes time spent in nature, which
positively impacts mental health by

585
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,760
increasing cognitive performance and
well-being, and alleviating illnesses

586
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,400
such as depression,
attention deficit disorders, and

587
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Alzheimer's.
And whereas parks and recreation

588
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,040
encourage physical activities by
providing space for popular sports,

589
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,440
hiking trails, swimming pools, and many
other activities designed to promote

590
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:34,560
active lifestyles, and whereas parks and
recreation is leading provider of

591
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:38,840
healthy meals, nutrition services, and
education, and whereas park and

592
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:42,240
recreation programming and education
activities such as after school time

593
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,560
program,
youth sports, and environmental

594
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:50,320
education are critical to children to
childhood development, and whereas parks

595
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,760
and recreation increases a community's
economic prosperity through increased

596
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:59,680
property values, expansion of local tax
base, increased tourism, the attraction

597
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,640
and retention of businesses, and crime
reduction.

598
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:06,800
And whereas parks and recreation is
fundamental to the environment

599
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,040
environmental well-being of our
community, and whereas parks and

600
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:15,280
recreation is essential and adaptable in
a structure infrastructure that makes

601
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:19,920
our communities resilient in the face of
natural disasters and climate change and

602
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:23,960
whereas our parks and natural recreation
areas ensure the ecological beauty of

603
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,200
our community and provide a place for
children and adults to connect with

604
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:32,680
nature and recreate outdoors.
and recreate outdoors.

605
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,600
And now therefore I Ishmael Harris mayor
of city of Bastrop do hereby proclaim

606
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,680
the month of July 2026 a park and
recreation month in witness whereof I

607
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:46,240
have here on to set my hand and cause
the official seal of the city of Bastrop

608
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,240
to be affixed on this 14th day of July
2026.

609
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,360
Do we have someone here to accept this?
Where they at?

610
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Yeah, there they are.
I didn't see y'all back there.

611
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:07,160
Why don't y'all come up here and
introduce yourselves?

612
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:18,920
» Good evening mayor and council. Uh my
name's Jason Alfaro parks and recreation

613
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:23,000
director for the city.
>> Hello, I'm Jocelyn Olivatous and I'm the

614
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:27,640
parks and recreation manager for the
city of Bastrop.

615
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,440
» All right.
We're going to take a a picture with you

616
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,840
guys.
So photo op.

617
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,520
» You guys should have held up your
shirts.

618
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,800
» All right.
Um

619
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Michael, you said we have someone here
that wants to speak on the next

620
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
proclamation.
>> Yes.

621
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:40,000
» Correct.
All right. Um

622
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,400
» Hot car awareness month.
>> Hot car awareness month.

623
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,840
» Make your way up.
>> You can come up here.

624
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Hello. You don't have to be shy.
If you can just introduce yourself and

625
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,920
tell us who you with.
>> me to speak after the proclamation or

626
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,640
before?
>> Um

627
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,120
you can speak before and then we'll do
the proclamation.

628
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,480
» Okay. Um good evening, Mayor Harris and
council members. My name is Sai Lee

629
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:08,240
Raja. I'm a rising senior, a youth
advocate, and the founder of Project

630
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:12,160
Safe Ride, a national initiative
dedicated to preventing pediatric

631
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:16,720
vehicular heat stroke and pet heat
stroke tragedies. I also serve on the

632
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Texas Heat Stroke Task Force working
alongside advocates across the state on

633
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:25,920
this exact issue. Thank you, Mayor
Harris, for this proclamation and for

634
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,240
recognizing Hot Car Awareness Month here
in Bastrop.

635
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:34,040
This cause hits close to home for the
community in a very literal way.

636
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:37,720
Bastrop isn't just a place people live.
It's a getaway. And a big part of that

637
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,000
is the outdoors.
Families come from Austin, from Houston,

638
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:47,640
from all over Central Texas to spend a
day at Bastrop State Park walking the

639
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:51,560
trails through the Lost Pines, swimming
in Lake Mina, or paddling on the

640
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Colorado River.
That means long days outside, gravel and

641
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:00,960
asphalt parking lots with little shade,
and cars sitting untouched for hours

642
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,600
while everyone's off on the trail or
down at the water.

643
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Added events like the Bastrop Homecoming
and Rodeo, the farmers markets on Main

644
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Street, or Saturday at Lake Bastrop, and
you get cars packed full of coolers,

645
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:18,640
kids, and sometimes the family dog
parked in direct sun for an entire

646
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,880
afternoon. That's not a hypothetical for
us. That's a Saturday in Bastrop in

647
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,880
July.
That's exactly why this awareness

648
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:29,520
matters right here in this city.
We're not talking about an abstract

649
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:35,040
public health issue. We're talking about
trailhead parking lots, our riverbanks,

650
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:39,080
our neighbors, and visitors.
Heatstroke does not discriminate. It

651
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,880
doesn't care if you're a lifelong
Bastrop resident or someone visiting for

652
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:48,200
the first time to hike the Lost Pines.
It doesn't care if it's a child, a

653
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:52,520
grandparent, or a family pet. What it
does care about is time and heat. And

654
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:57,520
here in Central Texas during the summer
months, we have plenty of both.

655
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:02,080
So, today isn't about a proclamation on
paper. It's a reminder to all of us.

656
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,760
Look before you lock, check the
backseat, never leave a child or pet in

657
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:10,880
a parked car for any moment of time, and
watch out for one another this summer,

658
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,760
especially in high-traffic outdoor spots
like our state parks and riverfront

659
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,400
where a quick trip to the water can turn
into hours.

660
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,320
Thank you again to the mayor and council
for standing behind this cause, and

661
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,400
thank you all for being here today.
>> Thank you for your What is your name

662
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,800
again?
>> Saily Raja.

663
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,720
Saily
Raja.

664
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,000
» Saily.
>> Yes.

665
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,640
» Okay. All right. Saily. Thank you,
Saily. That was wonderfully written. All

666
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,840
right.
So, and we all know it does get hot. It

667
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:41,840
doesn't matter. Like, it starts getting
hot in the springtime, and it doesn't

668
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,560
stop till
November.

669
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:52,120
All right. So, whereas pediatric
vehicular heatstroke is one of the

670
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:57,480
leading causes of non-crash related
fatalities in vehicles for children

671
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:02,200
under 15 with more than 1,000 lives lost
since 1998. And whereas a child's body

672
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:07,280
temperature rises three to five times
faster than adults and death can occur

673
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:12,000
when their core temperature reaches
107°. It's threshold that can be reached

674
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:17,760
within minutes.
Whereas on a typical 70° day, the

675
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:22,040
interior of a vehicle can reach 115° in
just 30 minutes and parking in the shade

676
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:28,560
or cracking windows does not provide the
safe environment for a child or a pet.

677
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:33,760
Whereas research shows that these
tragedies can happen to a caregiver

678
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:38,320
regardless of educational personality
often triggered by a change of routine,

679
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:45,800
sleep deprivation, or high stress. And
whereas check project safe ride founded

680
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:51,880
by youth advocate Salee
Salee Raja serves as a virtual community

681
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:56,880
initiative to empowerment empower
families with technology and reminders

682
00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:00,360
to eliminate these 100% preventable
deaths.

683
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Now, therefore, I Ishmael Harris, mayor
of the city of Bastrop, Texas and the

684
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:10,120
Bastrop City Council do hereby proclaim
July 14th as hot car awareness day. In

685
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:14,200
witness whereof, I have hereunto set my
hand and caused the official seal of the

686
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:19,240
city of Bastrop, Texas to be affixed on
this 14th day of July 2026.

687
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Thank you again for bringing this
initiative and and fighting for this.

688
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,600
So.
>> Thank you. Thank you.

689
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Would you like to take a picture with
them?

690
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:33,280
» Oh, yeah. We're going to I'm going to
sign it. You will come up here. You open

691
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,280
it up and we'll take a picture with you.

692
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,240
» Thank you.

693
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,840
Thank you.

694
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,200
» You know by the way.

695
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:28,920
» Yes.
All right.

696
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:33,720
On to agenda item 5A discussion
workshops work sessions and briefings

697
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:37,480
discussion local option election in the
city of

698
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Bastrop.

699
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,000
» Good evening Mayor and Council.
Let me grab the clicker.

700
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,360
So I wanted to take some time this
evening to discuss an item that's going

701
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:03,080
to be brought to council at the next
council meeting and that's the local

702
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:07,560
option election.
The last local option election was in

703
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:12,320
2005. So as you can imagine we have a
lot of new voters and some that are

704
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:15,240
unfamiliar with what an local option
election is.

705
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:19,480
So I wanted to discuss that with you
tonight. Um

706
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:23,880
equally as important getting in front of
citizens so that they know what we need

707
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:28,200
them to go to the polls for. I have
Medina Lewis from the county who she is

708
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:33,240
going to help answer any questions if
I'm unable to.

709
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:38,320
So what is a local option election?
And that is where the citizens

710
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:43,760
are there able to have their voice heard
on alcohol regulation in the city um,

711
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,640
whereas the state generally, um, makes
that decision.

712
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:51,240
Um,
we have, you know,

713
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,840
alcohol, um, licenses from top to bottom
in the city of Bastrop, and that's why

714
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:59,760
it's so important.
So, some of the details about the local

715
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:04,560
a lot option election is, um, as I
stated before, we had our last local

716
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:09,200
option election in 2005.
So, since then the city has annexed

717
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:13,680
land, and those annexed lands, they
retain their status. If they were dry

718
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,240
before we annexed them, they remained
dry.

719
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:22,680
Um, so, what we want to do is,
um, join in this countywide issue and

720
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:26,880
try to get some uniformity across the
county. Um, the city of Smithville is

721
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:31,560
also going to participate, as well as
the city of Elgin.

722
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:35,600
Um, so, at the moment, um, the county
attorney is go- is going to draft some

723
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,560
uniform, which which is important.
Anytime we have a countywide initiative

724
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,240
like this, we want to make sure all
residents are voting on the same thing,

725
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:48,360
and we can all accomplish Each city can
accomplish what they've set out to do.

726
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Um, another important detail is the
results of that election become

727
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:56,560
effective the day that we canvass,
um, which is tentative for, uh, I

728
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,640
believe it's November 10th.
So, um, another thing that's very

729
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:06,240
important, um, the city of Bastrop, um,
I want to say unique, because the city

730
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:11,520
of Bastrop's unique to me. Um,
they we have a city ordinance that

731
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,760
requires, if you have a mixed beverage
permit, that you, um, also have a food

732
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:22,240
and beverage permit. Um, so, that would
not be affected. Um, what also would not

733
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:26,800
be affected is you have to maintain 60%
of your sales from food, um, rather than

734
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:30,440
alcohol, so you don't cross that line
of, um, not being a restaurant anymore.

735
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Um,
it'll be a very simple for or against on

736
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:40,120
the ballot for, um,
all all all beverages, including

737
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:45,040
beverages or against um, the
legalization. So,

738
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:48,920
um and it can basically be looked at as
an update to our corporate boundaries.

739
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,440
So, um
what's most important is we're not

740
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:56,200
taking anything away from our
businesses, but trying to give them more

741
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200
opportunity.

742
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:02,840
So, this is a map of the city of
Bastrop.

743
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:08,000
The yellow portion with the lines
through it is what was involved in the

744
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:12,880
2005 local option election.
And as you can see, the portions that

745
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:18,560
are not shaded in, um that is they were
not included in an annex later. So, um

746
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:22,800
it's very evident that we have some gaps
where your neighbor could have one set

747
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,680
of rules and you have a different set of
rules. And so, we want that that

748
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,480
fairness to be across the board. Um we
don't want um

749
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,320
we want everyone to have the same
opportunity.

750
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:39,440
So, right now the voting schedule as the
sheriff of the bureau will start um

751
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:43,200
towards the middle of end of October and
run to the end of October with election

752
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,640
day being November 3rd.
Um there are some pretty expansive

753
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,440
voting hours.
Uh the location within the city of

754
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:54,120
Bastrop would be the Bastrop Courthouse
Annex building. Um as you can see,

755
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:59,120
there's also some
um other voting centers, Smithville and

756
00:56:55,720 --> 00:57:01,440
Elgin. Cedar Creek, too, I believe.
Okay.

757
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:08,640
And uh that's it. Are there any
questions I can answer for you or have

758
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Ms. Lewis come up and and answer?

759
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,440
» Uh I don't know who was first.
Council member Repke

760
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:23,440
» Yeah, this is a this is a topic that
I've

761
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,080
had to learn a lot about over the past
uh

762
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,440
12 13 years.
And um

763
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Texas
liquor laws are

764
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:39,800
extremely archaic and
um

765
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:48,440
there the
the threshold that you have to attain in

766
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:52,520
terms of signatures normally with
Let me back up a little bit. We're given

767
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,840
a huge opportunity here.
And

768
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,480
it was
uh

769
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:01,360
Representative Gerdes brought this
before the uh

770
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:07,320
state legislature and got a carve out
for Bastrop County one time.

771
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:14,280
So, it cost hundreds of thousands of
dollars to get a local option election

772
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:19,080
for a city the size of Bastrop.
So,

773
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:22,080
and that money doesn't go
to the county government, it doesn't go

774
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:28,080
to the state government, it doesn't go
to the people, it goes to consultants

775
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:32,240
who go around and bother people and get
signatures from them.

776
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,680
And
you know, I don't know where they're

777
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:40,360
from. Dallas, Austin, Chicago, I don't
know.

778
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Um doesn't matter cuz it doesn't go to
anybody in Bastrop County.

779
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:50,440
The only thing Bastrop County residents
get from that is a bunch of phone calls

780
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:57,320
and knocks on the door. And it's an
extremely laborious and expensive

781
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:01,520
process to get it done because
and so

782
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:07,640
the fact that we have an opportunity
just by calling this vote

783
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:11,920
at city council and to fix this thing
for the whole county cuz right now the

784
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,960
problem is
and it'll always be a problem as long as

785
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:19,640
our county is growing
and who sees who sees that changing in

786
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:25,200
the near future?
Um

787
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:29,760
as we annex, as precinct lines move
everything

788
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:34,360
anything that involves a division of the
uh of a political line of movement of a

789
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:39,520
political line
will cause

790
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:44,040
areas to be orphaned in a way that like
for example all these purple areas that

791
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:47,520
you see on this map
and thank you for making that by the way

792
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Michael.
Um

793
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:56,600
these are areas that can't
they can't be fixed

794
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:01,000
except through a process like this. We
can't bring them up to where we are

795
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:06,160
because it would cost so much money for
these the small number of properties to

796
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:10,640
get fixed and then by the time you got
it done there'd be new areas annexed

797
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:15,920
that would have to be done again.
So it's it's really a huge opportunity

798
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:21,640
for us
countywide to go through and say

799
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,560
everybody in the county has the same
rules.

800
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:29,040
And if you want to make your rules
different in the city

801
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:35,120
you can do that
but just don't don't put TABC in the in

802
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:40,720
the driver's seat to fix it
or to enforce it. You can

803
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:44,800
we can we can enforce it ourselves and
then if we don't like the way the rule

804
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:48,800
is we can change it. But right now if we
if we change if we put a rule in

805
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,160
here
with TABC like saying for example that

806
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:57,400
we have like we have in the city which
I'm perfectly happy with uh

807
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:02,040
that you can't have just a straight
mixed beverage permit you also have to

808
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,040
serve food.

809
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,280
If we ever decided that that wasn't a
good idea cuz there's a great

810
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:11,840
opportunity for a
great economic development to come in

811
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:15,920
but they need to have a mixed beverage
permit without food

812
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:19,800
we can't do it. I mean we can but it's
tremendously expensive and time

813
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:24,000
consuming.
And

814
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:27,840
this makes it so that
if we want to if we have a law, we want

815
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,720
to we want to make a law, we can make
it.

816
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,560
We just have to enforce it. We don't
have we can't rely on TABC to enforce

817
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,960
it.
I'm fine with that cuz really it's our

818
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,720
police that enforce most of that stuff
anyway.

819
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:44,800
And so
you know, let's let Bastrop be the one

820
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:49,320
that decides what our rules are instead
of TABC because

821
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,240
it's really really difficult to get
anything done through TABC.

822
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,240
» Yes, it is.

823
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,800
» Thank you, Council member Puckett.

824
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:06,680
Council member Fossler.
>> Thanks for that, Kevin. I know you're

825
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:10,800
intimately involved. My question for
you, Michael, does this cure this for a

826
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,320
future annexations or will future
annexations still be orphaned?

827
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,720
» Future annexations would still be
orphaned.

828
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,880
» Will still be orphaned. It just kind of
fixes it for right for

829
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,560
for right now.
>> If it passes in the county as well.

830
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,200
We're assuming that everything passes.
>> Right.

831
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:29,680
» But if it passes everywhere, then the
whole county would have the same rules.

832
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,320
» Okay. Got you. Thanks.
>> Yes.

833
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,720
But we would maintain the food and
beverage and all those.

834
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,720
» Thank you, Council member Fossler. Mayor
Pro Tem Kirkland.

835
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:51,120
» Wait. What question are we asking on the
election for instance? What

836
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:55,160
» So, we're asking for citizens to vote
either for or against the sale of all

837
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,960
alcoholic beverages including mixed
drinks.

838
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,880
» Got it. Okay. And then what is the cost
to the city of Bastrop for this

839
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:05,520
election?
>> So, the current estimate I have um and

840
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:11,840
and I'll be honest and we do have the
lion's share of the cost is $36,649

841
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:17,400
and some change.
>> And what is the county going to be

842
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:22,680
paying for their part of the election?
>> I'll have to have Miss Adina Lewis come

843
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,680
up to speak on that.

844
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,480
» Hello Adina.
>> Hello.

845
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:39,360
» Can you just please introduce yourself?
>> Adina Lewis, I'm the director of tourism

846
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:44,080
and economic development for Bastrop
County. And I want to thank Kevin. Kevin

847
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:48,680
has worked really hard on this. We've
been working on this project I don't

848
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:53,200
know, Kevin, 15 years trying to get this
done. If we hadn't gotten the carve out,

849
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:58,200
and I will get to your question, if we
hadn't gotten the carve out, we would

850
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:01,760
have had to have had 10,241
signatures

851
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:06,120
in order to do what we can accomplish.
And we've tried to get those in the

852
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:11,400
past, and it's just it's an impossible
number. So, that's why we went to the

853
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:17,240
legislature and we got this fixed. And
so, you have the ability to call an

854
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:21,640
election without um having a petition
brought to you.

855
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:28,280
The reason the cost is shared just like
our normal elections would be. So, it's

856
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:34,360
prorated based on um
of course the state sets the days and

857
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:37,760
times. So, that's set by the uh by the
state.

858
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:43,720
But, our election would be
uh handled from a cost standpoint just

859
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:48,160
like it is in any other election. So,
that's why it's prorated and the county

860
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:52,600
certainly has their share. It's not on
there, but it would be run just like a

861
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,280
normal election would be.
>> Can you get that number for me?

862
01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:00,000
» Yes, I can.
>> Okay.

863
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:05,640
» I don't really know what the total um
cost of an election is. And this is an

864
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:10,160
estimate. Um so,
we think this is on the high side. I got

865
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,240
this from the elections office.
>> Yeah. No, I mean, if if for instance it

866
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:18,640
was a price per voter and the county's
number was 70,000 or you know some

867
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,720
number dramatically higher than what the
city of Bastrop is paying, then

868
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,920
everything sort of makes sense even
though it sounds expensive and it is

869
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:30,760
what it is. If the county was paying
$12 and we were paying 36,000, I would

870
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,560
be going to the commissioner's court and
asking them to pay for it.

871
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,480
» Absolutely.
>> So that's why I want to know.

872
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:39,800
» Absolutely. It's just exactly the way we
normally run the elections.

873
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:44,080
» Yeah.
>> I think Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland Michael

874
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:48,160
can share our piece is proportionately
larger than Elgin and Smithville.

875
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,360
» Right. And it's based upon the number of
voters, right?

876
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,160
» Mhm.
>> Yeah, average voters, yeah.

877
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:56,200
» And and that
allocation is is similar through

878
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,880
anything that we do countywide. So this
isn't we're not being gouged for this

879
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,680
one.
>> No,

880
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:07,960
and and and if someone says that the
county number is you know $50,000, then

881
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:12,840
then the then the data supports what you
just said and then I'm fine. But if the

882
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:16,760
data doesn't support or that belief or
that I would share with you right now,

883
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,480
then I have a problem with it. So that's
what I That's why I want to know. Is

884
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,760
what that
>> wanting is the cost of the be total

885
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,560
election and there's
>> the total election and the breakout of

886
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,360
the cost.
>> Right. And there are several other

887
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:32,480
entities besides the cities that have
things on the on the ballot as well. So

888
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:36,080
they take a portion of the total cost.
>> Okay.

889
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:39,680
» Thank you. Anything else?
>> Um

890
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,840
Councilmember Fosler.
>> I do have another question. It's not for

891
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:47,080
Adina, but thank you for coming and
speaking. Um is there for the special

892
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:51,480
election
um in it's I guess it's not a special

893
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:55,960
election. Is there anything else we can
add on the ballot? Is there anything

894
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:59,600
else that would normally cost to have an
election that we could, you know what I

895
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:03,360
mean? Like charter like is there
anything else we could put on that or is

896
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:07,600
it total separate kind of election?
>> Uh I think for a charter election

897
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,880
there's a charter committee that has to
be formed, etc. I mean, you could

898
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:15,760
scramble to try to do it, but
>> Cuz the deadline's like August? Is it

899
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:19,280
August for putting it on the November?
Okay, just

900
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,800
» You have about 3 weeks to get it to get
the ballot. Yeah.

901
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:25,320
» Just curious. Thanks.
>> We're ambitious. We're not crazy.

902
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,080
» All right. Thank you, Council Member
Foster.

903
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Council, do we have any other discussion
for Michael?

904
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,600
All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate
the presentation.

905
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:43,440
All right.
Now, we're on to We don't have any staff

906
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,400
or board reports. Now, we're on to
citizen comments. As we move through the

907
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:51,400
citizen comments, I know it's a few of
y'all that would like to speak on agenda

908
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:54,640
item 9 I. Would you like to wait for
that agenda item or would you like to do

909
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:58,040
it in citizen comments? I bet you want
to do it in citizen comments.

910
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:06,080
All right. So, we will get to y'all.
Just give me one brief second. So,

911
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:10,680
we have several people who emailed in.
Um and then we have some who've

912
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:15,800
handwritten. And so, I'll go over the
ones who are emailed in real quick. Um

913
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:23,960
Mariana Krueger, she um
well, she wishes to speak. Are you here?

914
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:27,720
No?
Okay.

915
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:33,200
Um
She um she's a non-resident. She's out

916
01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:37,799
of Austin, but she just wanted uh to
speak on caution regarding the water

917
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:43,040
quality and supply threats coming from
Austin upstream and its planned Dog

918
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,040
Head's developments.

919
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:53,920
All right. Next, we have Judith Hoover.
She does not wish to speak. Uh it's

920
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:58,040
pertaining to agenda item 9 I, historic
structure and site protection.

921
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:04,359
Uh she would like to record her support
for this. Uh Thomas Hoover, he does not

922
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:09,319
wish to speak, but it's on agenda nine I
uh historic preservation protections. Uh

923
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:12,640
please record his support.
Um

924
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:19,319
then we have uh
Gina O'Brien. She does not wish to

925
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:22,520
speak. Uh this is uh
she opposes the

926
01:09:20,839 --> 01:09:27,240
intent to connect
uh 969 Black Eyed Burleson Crossing

927
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:30,080
Plaza traffic through Riverside Grove at
Jessica Place or anywhere through

928
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:37,160
Riverside Grove.
So, she opposes that happening.

929
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:41,200
All right. Now, um
up first, as always,

930
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,120
we have Rita Ward.

931
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:56,360
» Um excuse me.
Rita Ward, Riverwood.

932
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,400
» I I don't think they can hear you from
back there. You got to say it in the

933
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,600
microphone, ma'am.
Thank you.

934
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:07,600
» Okay, the first thing I want to do is
give a great big thanks to our park and

935
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:13,280
recreation. Now, I left before all the
excitement uh took place. I left at

936
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:20,240
7:00, but before then, everything was
absolutely perfect, and they did a great

937
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:26,440
big job. And I said, I thought they
ought to have uh uh a little raise in

938
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:33,280
salary. They did so good.
But then the next thing that I want to

939
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:36,400
think about it or thank is our police
department.

940
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:43,080
They were out there in those
air-conditioned

941
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:49,520
dark suits in that 100° temperature,
walking on up and down, making sure that

942
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:54,840
everybody was safe, going this way,
going that away, making sure old ladies

943
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:59,680
like me were on the right path.
And they did a great big job. We don't

944
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:02,520
have but one here today, but let's give
her a hand.

945
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:12,600
And the next thing I think that you
should consider is about our data

946
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:18,920
centers and kind of take a a leaf out of
Taylor, Hutto, San Marcos

947
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:23,040
and the Hill
uh county

948
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:28,520
on what they are doing on kind of
putting a little hold on our

949
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:34,200
uh data centers.
And this can be done.

950
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:38,720
And we need to think about that. I did
investigate it and our money for our

951
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:43,080
data center here is coming from
Amsterdam.

952
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:47,280
Uh there's a lot of money coming in from
the Netherlands and another place. I

953
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:54,000
don't know if it's a little town there
or if it's a group. It's AROL, I think

954
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:58,040
if I remember correctly.
But

955
01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:03,080
we need to think about that. Also about
our town hall meeting, I'm sorry Sid

956
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:06,880
Miller is not going to be here, but
there will be somebody to take his

957
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:11,080
place.
And

958
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:17,200
everybody should be there and let's get
together and see what we can do as a

959
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:23,240
group. We're not We're We're Texans.
Let's forget about our politics. Let's

960
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:26,000
be Texans. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Rita.

961
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:35,000
All right. Next we have Trisha Silva
who would like to speak.

962
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:55,520
» All right. Um
Good evening, mayor, council members,

963
01:12:52,720 --> 01:13:02,880
and our city manager. Um I just wanted
to come up and

964
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:07,480
just pay gratitude to the city staff for
our collaboration on the summer food and

965
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:11,440
fun drive. On behalf of Bastrop County
Emergency Food Pantry and Support

966
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:16,920
Center, our staff, our board of
directors, and our volunteers, I would

967
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:22,240
like to extend a heartfelt thank you and
gratitude for your continued support of

968
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:26,960
our mission to nourish and serve our
neighbors in need. For the past 4 years,

969
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:32,600
the city of Bastrop has led a summer
food drive that has made a meaningful

970
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:38,920
impact on food insecurity across our
community. Through your collective

971
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:45,360
efforts, a remarkable 11,045
lb of food have been donated, providing

972
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:50,840
the equivalent of 21,759
meals for families, seniors, veterans,

973
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:56,760
and children facing hunger. This year,
the campaign set an ambitious goal to

974
01:13:53,040 --> 01:14:01,520
collect 3,000 lb of food, and thanks to
the dedication and the generosity of the

975
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:06,120
city leadership, staff, and residents,
you came incredibly close by collecting

976
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:10,920
2,824
lb of food. Congratulations on this

977
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:15,640
outstanding achievement and the hard
work that made it possible. We're also

978
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:20,400
especially grateful for the many ways
the city of Bastrop championed this

979
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:26,080
effort, including hosting a collections
day at the Bastrop Convention Center,

980
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:30,040
making the Touch the Truck experience
available,

981
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:35,800
inspiring friendly participation
among city staff teams.

982
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:41,080
These efforts not only helped to collect
food, but it also raised the awareness

983
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:45,960
of the challenges many of our neighbors
face every day, and especially during

984
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:51,160
the summer months. Your Your
demonstrates what it is what's possible

985
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:55,160
when community comes together with
compassion, purpose, and shared

986
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:59,680
commitment to helping others. Thank you
for standing with us in our mission and

987
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:03,680
helping us to ensure no neighbor goes
hunger hungry during the summer. So,

988
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,400
thank you all so much.
>> Thank you all.

989
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:15,520
All right.
Up next, we have Cheryl Long.

990
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:25,480
Please introduce yourself and your
address and you have 3 minutes.

991
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:30,680
» I've lived at 1501 Church Street,
Bastrop, Texas for many decades. I live

992
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:36,000
in a historic home.
I've kept it historic. It's on the

993
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:40,520
original 2.75 acres. It has been a
struggle. I want to keep Bastrop

994
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:48,160
historic.
I'm in support of 9 1

995
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:53,040
Uh what I'd like to really talk about is
we are talking about our history.

996
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:57,320
Our historic neighborhoods are being
threatened.

997
01:15:54,440 --> 01:16:02,120
Once they are gone, they're gone. We
cannot get them back.

998
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:07,600
We really have no protection from our uh
state historical society. We have to

999
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:12,720
protect our history.
We need to raise the penalties and

1000
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:17,960
consequences for any threat or damage to
our historic structures, landmarks, or

1001
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:24,880
historic sites.
Um so, I am in support in uh

1002
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:28,760
the issue of the 9 1 in raising the
penalty and consequences.

1003
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:37,800
» Thank you.
All right.

1004
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,800
Up next, we have Tommy Clayborn.

1005
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:48,960
» I'm uh Tommy Clayborn.
I was born here a long time ago.

1006
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:52,600
Uh so long.
But uh

1007
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:58,040
one side of my family's been in Bastrop,
Bastrop County for seven generations.

1008
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:01,640
The other side of my family's been in
Bastrop, Bastrop County for eight

1009
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:06,520
generations.
Um

1010
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:10,000
one of the house that I was born in
uh was probably one of the top the first

1011
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:15,320
five
structures in Bastrop that was built. My

1012
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:19,360
brother still lives in that house.
I've had property different properties

1013
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:27,200
in uh
that had historical backing. I had uh

1014
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:33,200
1202 to 1206 Church Street, which is
a very historical street in Bastrop.

1015
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:37,320
And uh after I sold that property, it
wasn't long after I sold it that that

1016
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:42,120
house burned down.
And that's an historical that was the

1017
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:46,720
Sam K. Higgins house. It was
uh it was just something that was really

1018
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:50,120
really precious, but it's gone. Like
Cheryl said, once it's gone

1019
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,560
it's gone.
Um

1020
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:59,240
Another thing is like
whenever I've come up here, I don't come

1021
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:03,840
up here and speak very often, but I
always go to the plaque behind it, which

1022
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:08,200
is the preservation of the past and
progress for the future.

1023
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,680
So, if we don't do something right now
to take care of the past it's not going

1024
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:18,720
to be in here anymore.
One example I have of that

1025
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:22,920
is take our historic golf course.
Now,

1026
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:27,240
it's a long history and the with the the
golf course and how it came about and

1027
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:32,160
how it was maintained and everything.
I don't believe that the city council at

1028
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,080
that time did all they could do to
preserve that.

1029
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:40,480
Uh
there was a lot of controversy, but just

1030
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:44,800
nobody had any inclination. Now, what
I'm going to just request is something

1031
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:50,720
that's going to be real easy for y'all
because I saw how you you all reacted at

1032
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:56,480
the very first start of this meeting
when you talked right on down the line

1033
01:18:53,560 --> 01:19:02,360
about what happened in Bastrop and all
the activities and things like that and

1034
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:07,280
the excitement and the positivity in
your voices carried through. I know that

1035
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:11,800
you're really really good at at
identifying what's going on in Bastrop

1036
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:16,640
and how it wants to keep on.
So, the only thing that I'm requesting

1037
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:21,600
is when things like this comes up
keep a very open-minded be open-minded

1038
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:26,600
and check into everything that's
happening into it. And like I said,

1039
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:32,040
that's that's an easy thing to do and it
helps our city because tourists come

1040
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:37,000
into our town for the historical factor
as much as anything. So, thank you.

1041
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,000
» Yes, sir. Thank you.

1042
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:43,720
All right.
Next we have Blake Kaiser.

1043
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:50,480
» Good afternoon. Blake Kaiser, I'm on the
Historic Landmark Commission.

1044
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:55,200
Recently, we have found out that the
national and state offer no protection.

1045
01:19:53,440 --> 01:20:00,160
It's all
the weight is on the local. We're

1046
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:05,560
finding out our local doesn't have any.
We need for nine I to really consider

1047
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:11,480
something like I don't know $100 per
$1,000 of value as a fine. Right now,

1048
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:15,600
it's doubling of the demo fee and I
don't know what that is. 500 bucks

1049
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:20,000
maybe. So, that doesn't scare anybody
off. We need to make it where we're

1050
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:23,960
protecting our structures.
And I think the only way is a monetary

1051
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,840
fine.
And uh

1052
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:32,120
I'm sure we can come up with something
cuz we're losing right and left and

1053
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:34,280
before you know it, we won't have any.
That's all.

1054
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,640
» All right.
>> Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

1055
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,360
All right. We have any more citizen
comments?

1056
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:44,200
» No, sir.
>> All right.

1057
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,960
Sounds good.
>> Mayor, before we get started on the

1058
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,360
citizen
on the consent agenda, can we move up

1059
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,280
one item for from individual
consideration? Mr. Peterson's been here

1060
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,720
for a little bit.
>> Yeah, yeah. No, that's what I was about

1061
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:59,040
to do.
So, before we go over consent agenda

1062
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:04,840
item
I would like to go to

1063
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:09,560
individual consideration
agenda item

1064
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:14,760
9G.
Consider and act on a resolution

1065
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,760
2026-107

1066
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:23,840
ratifying $2,000 $2,160
in waived fees for a funeral services

1067
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:27,640
for Willie Ruth Hodge.
Peterson.

1068
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:31,920
» Thank you, Mayor and Council. This is
actually ratification that has already

1069
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:35,880
occurred.
It was time sensitive and it was over

1070
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:40,720
the holiday weekend.
Miss Willie Ruth was the wife of Mr.

1071
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:44,480
Bill Peterson who served this council
for 6 years. So, I thought it was

1072
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:50,160
important to not just honor Mr.
Peterson's service, but her legacy.

1073
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:53,080
» Absolutely.
Council, do we have any discussion on

1074
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,920
this?
Motion to approve.

1075
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,120
» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. All in

1076
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,400
favor?
>> Aye.

1077
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:05,120
» All opposed?
All right. Let the show that it passes

1078
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:09,800
unanimous. And and Bill, just know that
you're in our continued prayers. You're

1079
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:13,120
in our heart. Um
Miss Willie Ruth, she was a fantastic

1080
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:16,200
individual.
Um

1081
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:20,200
She never called me by my name, even
though I know she knew my name.

1082
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:24,520
Yeah. Y'all just I know for real, y'all.
She just

1083
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:29,560
CP's grandson. That's what she would
call me. Every time. Every single time.

1084
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,240
So, but that just, you know, my She
worked at the bus barn with my

1085
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:37,360
grandfather back in the '80s. And like
she was always greeting me with a smile

1086
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:43,240
as a kid, throughout childhood, as an
adult. Just an absolute living spirit.

1087
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:46,840
And I know she will be missed by many.
She was cherished by a lot and loved by

1088
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:50,960
a lot. And so,
Bill, our our thoughts, our heart, our

1089
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,240
prayers are with continue to be with
you.

1090
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:59,600
All right.
On to consent agenda item.

1091
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:07,640
All matters listed on the consent agenda
are considered to be routine by the city

1092
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:12,440
council and will will be enacted by one
motion. There will not be a separate

1093
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:16,320
discussion on these items. If discussion
is desired, that that item will be

1094
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:20,160
removed from the consent agenda and will
be considered separately.

1095
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:24,720
All right.
Council member Meyer.

1096
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:28,480
» Yes, I'd like to remove 8B, please.
>> Okay.

1097
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:34,400
Do we have any others? Council member
Lowe.

1098
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,400
» Yeah, I'd like to pull 8F, please.

1099
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:43,240
» All right, council members, do we have
any other items? No. All right.

1100
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:48,200
8B, consider and act on a resolution R
number R-2026-100,

1101
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:54,000
approving participation in a limited
future local match and matters related

1102
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:59,280
thereto for the Capital Area Rural
Transportation System CARTS Mobility Hub

1103
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:05,680
proposal at the Bastrop Public Library
and Climate Pollution Reduction Grant

1104
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:09,040
CPRG activities as exhibited in exhibit
A.

1105
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:13,320
Viviana, hello.
>> Good evening, Mayor Council. Viviana

1106
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:17,520
Andres, assistant to the city manager,
I'm here to

1107
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:21,880
talk to you or answer any questions that
you may have about this item.

1108
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:25,520
» Thank you so much, Viviana. I do have
some questions and I have some concerns.

1109
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:27,880
» Yes, ma'am.
>> regarding e-bikes.

1110
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:33,000
» Okay.
>> And

1111
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Prime concern is safety.
Considering how many

1112
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:43,760
increased accidents we're having, even
deaths from e-bikes.

1113
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:49,360
Concerned about regulations.
Who, what, when, where, why? Okay, so

1114
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:55,680
Who? We know what and when.
Where and why? So, those questions would

1115
01:24:52,800 --> 01:25:01,400
be uh
Who are we serving in this? What is our

1116
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,400
target audience?

1117
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:08,520
Why? Because
Where are we going? You know, it's We're

1118
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:14,560
going from the post office to the museum
or you know those kind of things.

1119
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:19,000
Also, we do have an ordinance. I know
it's a 2021-06

1120
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:23,480
that does
have regulations on e-bikes, which they

1121
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:28,360
can't ride on the sidewalks. I'm
concerned about because I'm down at the

1122
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:34,160
parks a lot all the time.
I see people on walkers on the trails,

1123
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:38,840
especially the fishermans. Super
concerned about e-bikes being on in any

1124
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:43,240
of our parks.
Pedestrians being affected by the

1125
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:46,600
e-bike. Mainly safety, you know, it is
is what I'm saying.

1126
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:51,320
Um
Location. Where are they going? Where

1127
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:56,640
are they going to travel to?
Also, when they travel from point A to

1128
01:25:54,200 --> 01:26:01,080
the dot to next place might be the
museum. What are they doing with those

1129
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:05,440
bikes? Cuz when I go to Austin or any
cities that have this, it's like litter

1130
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:09,880
all over the place and
I sure don't want that for our city.

1131
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:17,320
Think the age restrictions we have in
our ordinance, so that's good.

1132
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:20,640
And I realize but mainly that just the
questions I've asked about that if you

1133
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:24,200
could just
let me know what those answers are

1134
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,600
concerns or anything else would be
great. Thank you.

1135
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:31,240
» Yes, ma'am. Not a problem. So, just to
give you a high-level view and I won't

1136
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:35,240
take too long. This is very much a
concept that we kind of flushed out. So,

1137
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:39,160
today no plans have actually been
designed or anything like that. This has

1138
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:43,520
been in partnership with carts and it's
a concept of a mobility hub at the

1139
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:48,520
library. The hub includes a proposal of
a carts shelter

1140
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:52,600
along with some flat work improvements
and then also an e-bike station.

1141
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:56,160
Currently, the e-bike station at the
library slated for five bikes. It's five

1142
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,640
slots.
Now, that

1143
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:03,280
slot or the
bike station won't be filled with

1144
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:08,880
exactly five bikes. We'd probably have
just about three and then leave two

1145
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:12,720
available. The bikes themselves um
they're pretty interesting. They are a

1146
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:17,440
they're they're not dockless. They
require they're required to be docked in

1147
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:22,720
order to be charged. And the docking
mechanism is also the lock around it.

1148
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:26,280
Now, you did ask where. That's a great
question and honestly, you do have the

1149
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:30,600
right to be concerned cuz I will admit
that the way that other communities have

1150
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:34,280
rolled out e-bikes, I don't I think that
it was

1151
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:40,360
um too much too soon, right? So, this is
a very micro scale operation. It's um

1152
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:45,520
very constrained. It's a total of 15
bikes or a possibility of 15 bikes, but

1153
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:48,800
we probably won't have exactly 15 on the
street cuz once again, you want to leave

1154
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:52,760
a couple of the charging stations empty
so that if someone pulls up, they can

1155
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:57,120
charge. So, they're slated to be at the
carts location. So, that's the first set

1156
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,400
and that's where the first 10 are going
is at the carts on their private

1157
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:04,720
property. They've already received a
grant for some expansion at their

1158
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:08,440
current location and then the second
location would be here at the library.

1159
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:12,800
Now, of course, you're correct. We do
have an ordinance in place in chapter 12

1160
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:15,640
and the e-bikes would have to conform
with any aspect of that ordinance, which

1161
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:19,480
essentially states that they are
prohibited from being on sidewalks.

1162
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,680
They're restricted to being on streets.
They're not allowed to park

1163
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:27,160
on the streets unless there's a
specifically designated place on the

1164
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:31,000
street. Um there is some provisions for
parking on the sidewalks, but then you

1165
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:35,080
have very specific criteria for
clearance even if they park on the

1166
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:38,680
sidewalks. They have to have a minimum
of um

1167
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:42,880
within um they can't be within 8 ft of
building entrances, driveways, curb

1168
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:46,680
ramps, commercial loading zones, and
they have to leave at least 4 ft clear

1169
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:50,560
on the sidewalk if they were to be
hooked to like some of the we have some

1170
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:55,000
kind of um bike racks downtown. They
look like the old iron bridge, and

1171
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:58,920
they're like various colors. Now,
this is a pilot program in nature. The

1172
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:04,160
bikes are slated to go no more than 20
mph. They're slated to have a charge

1173
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:07,840
that lasts uh 30 to 40 mi.
It's an opportunity, but it's not a

1174
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,800
must, and my most important concern is
that it reflects the values of the

1175
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:14,720
community, and it's appropriate for the
community. So, we are I'm completely

1176
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:19,440
open to your feedback tonight, and
whatever you find permissible or not

1177
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:23,400
permissible. I also have Dana here from
CARTS. If you would like to hear from

1178
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:28,120
her, she can answer some of that. Now,
this is as I said before,

1179
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:31,840
very conceptual in nature. So, some of
the finer details such as like a

1180
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:35,880
recovery program that would need to be
organized between the city of CARTS

1181
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:39,240
hasn't been fleshed out or anything like
that because we're still very much

1182
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:44,200
walking through the feasibility of this
process. Um so, we would have to get

1183
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:47,280
into um maintenance and operations cuz
that's something to be considered

1184
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,640
because if we were to do something like
this, there has to be a maintenance

1185
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:54,280
component with the bikes. CARTS
themselves has done a lot of the

1186
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:58,160
legwork. They went and talked to um
Mike's Bikes, Jason with Mike's Bikes

1187
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:02,560
down at Fisherman's Park, and he's open
to the idea of some maintenance on the

1188
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:07,000
bikes. And then again, as I um mentioned
previously, it's the recovery program.

1189
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:12,680
These are GPS-located, and there is an
app that serves them. It's um

1190
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:16,720
And so, the app is very specific. Um it
would be mostly managed by CARTS, and

1191
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:21,120
it's Metro Mobility. And so, it allows
you to locate where the bikes are at so

1192
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:25,240
that we um aren't having them littered
on the streets. The idea is that they

1193
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:28,720
are supposed to be docked and charged.
And so, the other idea is too, if

1194
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:33,480
someone was to leave a bike somewhere in
the community, because you have to be um

1195
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:37,520
18 years or older in order to rent a
bike, you can't be younger than 18.

1196
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:43,240
You have to put in your name, and you
also um you sign a a liability waiver,

1197
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:46,960
essentially stating that if any accident
or anything detrimental happens while

1198
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:51,480
you're on the bike, you assume full
responsibility, aka we're held harmless.

1199
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:55,240
So, that's important to the city, cuz we
don't want to be responsible for someone

1200
01:30:53,080 --> 01:31:00,560
having a um being on an acc- or being in
an accident.

1201
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:05,080
Um so, there's that aspect. Um I do
think, and I would want to pursue with

1202
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:10,640
CARTS, if this even was to be something
that you guys would be in supportive um

1203
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:14,200
putting limitation or like a blocker, if
you will, on the app so that it they're

1204
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:18,000
restricted from renting, and they're
only allowed to rent during certain

1205
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:21,640
hours of operation. I'm not interested
in someone reading renting a bike at

1206
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:25,640
8:00 p.m. at night, quite honestly. I
would like it to be during business

1207
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:30,600
hours, because that that is a safety
hazard, in my opinion. So, having some

1208
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:35,840
restrictions on the ability um to rent,
when they can access the mobile app. Um

1209
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:39,840
and then also um the trails um that
you're concerned of you should that

1210
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:43,840
rightly so, um that is prohibited. So,
they are actually not allowed to bike on

1211
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:47,680
trails, and they will be ticketed if
they're found biking on trails. Um with

1212
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:51,080
that, if it's okay, I would like to hand
it over to Ms. Dana Platt to just say a

1213
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:54,840
few words, and then of course, I'll be
back for whatever questions you have.

1214
01:31:56,440 --> 01:32:02,840
» Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um my
name is Dana Platt. I'm the

1215
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:06,040
Communications Director for CARTS, and
um

1216
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:11,080
we're really excited at this project. Um
we're not trying to recreate Austin's um

1217
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:15,840
bike share system here in Bastrop. Um we
selected a Bastrop-size solution

1218
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:20,120
um that provides technology and security
that we need. Um it also keeps the

1219
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:25,800
system scalable, um and it can grow with
demand. So, it's literally five bikes at

1220
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:30,360
a docking station. Um
and we're hoping that that provides um

1221
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:34,000
with people traveling to and from the
CARTS station, it provides like a last

1222
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:37,920
mile for people. So, if people get to
the CARTS station and they want to come

1223
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:41,720
and visit downtown Bastrop, they're not
having to walk in the heat, walk around.

1224
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:45,120
They can get on a bike, zip over to
downtown, and then zip back, get on a

1225
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:49,520
bus, and get back into Austin or
wherever they're traveling from.

1226
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:52,600
Um we also think having um a spot at the
library and

1227
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:56,400
coordinating with the library, we think
this is something that would be great

1228
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:59,120
for tourism and for people around town
to be able to have those bikes to be

1229
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:02,320
able to ride around.
Um

1230
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:07,200
do you guys have any questions for me or
concerns? I'm happy to answer anything

1231
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:11,760
you guys may have.
>> All right.

1232
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,760
Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland.

1233
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:17,560
» I think this is a really exciting
opportunity for Bastrop. I think that a

1234
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:21,720
lot of um
people think that innovation only

1235
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:24,080
happens in the bigger major cities, and
um

1236
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:29,400
we were able to get some grant funding
for this to provide this service, and

1237
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:33,440
the cost to the city is going to be less
than a thousand a year for software. And

1238
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:37,480
that software is going to report where
the bikes are um traveling, you know,

1239
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:41,640
all of that information, where they're
going to and from. It's going to help

1240
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:44,920
with the GPS system, with locating them,
and things like that. There is a fine,

1241
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:48,960
too, so
basically, if you don't return that bike

1242
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:54,240
back to the docking system, you can get
up to a $200 fine, or if it's lost or

1243
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:59,400
stolen, it's a $2,000 fine. So, all of
this helps like deter people from just

1244
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:02,240
leaving bikes randomly on the streets.
Um, and it's also not like a free

1245
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,840
docking scooter system where they're
just going to pile up on the street

1246
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:09,480
corners or anything like that. They have
to actually go back to the docking

1247
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:14,320
station to get the bike charged and to
get their money back.

1248
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:18,320
» So, does uh KRT's have experience with
these five pod bike setups in other

1249
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:22,840
places?
>> So, this is like new and groundbreaking

1250
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:27,520
for us. So, we haven't been in the
e-bike um system. This will be our first

1251
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:31,800
This will be a pilot. So, initially
we're trying to pilot here, see how it

1252
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:35,480
goes, see how the city responds to it.
Um, so we've never done this before.

1253
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,080
» Okay.
So, then

1254
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:42,000
I mean, my next question is was going to
be in the ballpark of who is using these

1255
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,320
in other communities and you know, under
what conditions would people be using

1256
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:49,560
them. And you you mentioned uh using the
KRT's bus from the and then from the

1257
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:52,880
KRT's location coming to downtown and
then back to KRT's location. So, I can I

1258
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:56,840
guess I can see that.
Um, is there a cost to use the bike when

1259
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:59,480
someone wants to use it?
>> Yeah, there'll be a charge. We're not

1260
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,800
sure what the fee is going to be. It'll
be some something similar to our fees

1261
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:07,720
now, which are really inexpensive. You
know, riding a van will be $2.00 one

1262
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:10,600
way. So, it'll be something inexpensive.
>> Okay.

1263
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:15,680
» Um, and just as a personal note, like I
did travel out of the country um

1264
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:21,000
this summer and we were in Rome and they
had the Lime e-bikes around and and it

1265
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:25,880
was much easier to take those than to
take a cab or public transportation. It

1266
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:30,520
was much quicker, like my route would be
9 minutes instead of like 30, you know.

1267
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:33,920
So, they were very easy and these bikes
are The cool thing about these are is

1268
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,720
like you get them from the docking um
station and then they have a little

1269
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:41,960
lock. So, if you want to run over to the
store to you know, shopping that you can

1270
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:45,320
lock up your bike at a you know, a bike
lock and then you can go about your

1271
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:49,160
business. So, they're a little bit
different than the Limes and I think

1272
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,880
they're um a better fit for a smaller
community.

1273
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:57,080
» Uh
Madam Police Chief uh Vicky,

1274
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,080
question for you.

1275
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:10,000
Do we require helmets for these?
>> So, state law requires helmets for a

1276
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:14,440
certain age. I believe it's under 17.
Uh the city of Bastrop um off the top of

1277
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:18,200
my head, I haven't looked at it in a
long time. Um I don't believe they

1278
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:23,520
require them for anybody except under
the age of 15.

1279
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:26,520
» Okay. Okay. And um
>> It Now, that depends on the class of the

1280
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:30,080
bike, too.
So, e-bikes are regulated by different

1281
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:32,360
classes, one, two, and three, depending
on how fast they go, things of that

1282
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,440
nature.
>> Yeah, and these are 20 to 30 mph.

1283
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,880
» Which should be a class one, so they
don't require insurance or anything.

1284
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,920
They're treated like regular bicycles
for the most part.

1285
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,880
» Okay.
>> I think they top out at 20.

1286
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,760
» Okay. Well, that's just like with
motorcycles, you wouldn't you don't have

1287
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:49,360
to have a helmet.
>> we would

1288
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:52,280
in our campaign we would highly suggest
that

1289
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:55,240
» Yes. Yeah, recommendation, right?
>> Okay.

1290
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:58,040
Um
I I

1291
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,720
I think I would paint myself as
horrified if I saw people riding these

1292
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:05,640
on sidewalks, in the park,
>> Mhm.

1293
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:09,920
» uh or even up and down Old Austin
Highway on the sidewalk. Um

1294
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,000
and uh
I

1295
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:14,640
It it it
There's going to be some unintended

1296
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:18,600
consequence of this, and it's going to
end up costing money for enforcement.

1297
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:23,880
» I I believe and
again, I'm I haven't looked at it. I'm

1298
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:28,480
not familiar with this project. Um I
believe that uh we do not allow the

1299
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:32,600
motorized bikes in the parks to begin
with. Um from that city ordinance, I'll

1300
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:38,120
I'll go back and reread it and follow up
with you on it. And then as far as Old

1301
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:42,040
Austin Highway, they um they're treated
like regular bicycles, so they can ride

1302
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:46,040
them in the roadway as long as they're
legally riding them in the correct

1303
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:50,520
direction and two abreast and all that.
>> Yeah, last Sunday there was an e-bike

1304
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:52,840
going faster than I was Uh uh on Old
Austin Highway cuz I was following the

1305
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,840
speed limit.
>> Yeah, his bike goes 30 mph. I know who

1306
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,240
you're talking about. He's happy about
that bike.

1307
01:37:57,440 --> 01:38:00,600
» Okay, got it.
>> He got it for a real good deal, too.

1308
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:05,200
» Got it. Excellent.
>> Well, and the other thing on these

1309
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:10,520
e-bikes is they are regulated as far as
uh power and again, off the top of my

1310
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:14,840
head, I believe it's either 740 or 750.
Um I don't believe these class ones

1311
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:17,240
reach that limit, but it's something I
can look into.

1312
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:20,920
» Okay.
Um

1313
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:23,520
Okay, I'll give floor. Maybe think of
some more things.

1314
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:27,480
» All right, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem
Kirkman, Councilmember Plunkett.

1315
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:32,680
» One thing I would also like to add is
that this I mean, the beauty if if you

1316
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:37,240
all decide that you would like to try a
pilot program. If you don't want to, I'm

1317
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:41,280
I am okay at the end of the day. But um
the infrastructure, it's it's nominal

1318
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:45,040
and the idea is that it's easy to remove
if if it's not something that works for

1319
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:49,440
Bastrop as well. If we were to decide to
try it out, so.

1320
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,440
» All right.

1321
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:57,400
» Um yeah, my question I guess kind of
revolves around how how it works. It

1322
01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:01,160
seems odd
that it would be a for rent kind of a

1323
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:05,440
thing, but then
you couldn't leave it somewhere. I get

1324
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:12,640
um you would have to take it back to
where you got it from.

1325
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:19,280
And it seems like generally the purpose
would be to go somewhere. So

1326
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:23,240
» So you can rent it and it has That's a
good question. So you can rent it and it

1327
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:27,160
does have a charge of 30 to 40 miles,
which is about 2 to 4 hours. So you have

1328
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:32,120
a window where you can rent it, go
somewhere, find a bike rack, lock it up,

1329
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:35,680
go shopping or something like that, come
back to it, and then go put it back at

1330
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:38,400
the docking station. That's the idea
behind that, so.

1331
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:41,880
» could see them like, you know, going to
HEB and turn go turn around and coming

1332
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,920
back.
But

1333
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:50,200
thinking of like, okay, if you came in
on a CARTS bus to town

1334
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:54,000
and you were trying to get,
you know, the last mile home, you're

1335
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,360
talking about first mile, last mile,
then

1336
01:39:55,040 --> 01:40:00,040
» I don't know that this would be a
solution for the last mile.

1337
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,920
» because you want to leave it at the last
mile, otherwise you

1338
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:07,360
» Correct.
>> just have to

1339
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,360
Yeah, okay.

1340
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:12,720
Okay.
>> Correct. I don't think that you would

1341
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:16,680
terminate your last mile at your end
point destination with the bike, cuz

1342
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,320
ergo you then cancel out the returning
to the docking station practice.

1343
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:22,000
» Right.
>> I I agree.

1344
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:24,040
» Okay.
>> Council member Myra, you have something

1345
01:40:23,480 --> 01:40:28,920
else?
>> Yes, I do. So, I'm kind of real

1346
01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:32,920
kind of going with Kevin because nobody
if I'm going to HEB, I'm going to take

1347
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:37,240
CARTS bus. And I'll tell you a lot of
people right outside on Spring Street

1348
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:41,080
take the CARTS bus to go to HEB.
So, I'm sure not going to ride an

1349
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:45,720
e-bike, but
I'm really kind of curious like, Dana,

1350
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:50,120
you said go around town, but we have
really two active blocks downtown and

1351
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:56,240
and Council member Plunkett is going to
back me up on this about

1352
01:40:52,640 --> 01:41:01,160
even with the bikes, which I would think
it would have to be a requirement that

1353
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:05,680
those bikes have to go in a bike stand.
They cannot go anywhere else. But even

1354
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:11,200
with the bike stands,
we have areas on Main Street and and our

1355
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:15,160
Main Street right now is working on
decluttering

1356
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:19,440
this I don't
I would hope that we would not want to

1357
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:23,640
add to that problem of more clutter on
the two blocks that we have. And if

1358
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:27,880
again, if I'm going to go to the library
and I'm going to go to the museum, I

1359
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:32,400
don't understand taking an e-bike
for two blocks. So,

1360
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:36,320
I'm just trying to be practical on where
we going?

1361
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:40,280
» No, that's a good question. So, the way
that we kind of visualize it is let's

1362
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:44,800
say that someone comes to town for a
festival or a fair and then they find

1363
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:48,920
out about the e-bikes. They go rent it,
drive around town, look at some of the

1364
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:52,840
historic homes, look at just kind of I
mean I'd see it more of being just kind

1365
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:56,000
of a downtown or way to explore downtown
without having to be in your car and

1366
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,360
drive. You can look at some of the
beautiful historic homes. You obviously

1367
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:04,040
can't go on the trails or you'll still
get a ticket. Um, things of that nature,

1368
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:09,200
but um, you know, once again, this is
it's an idea, it's a concept, um,

1369
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:13,720
looking for y'alls feedback. If if we
feel like we're not ready yet, that's

1370
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:18,360
okay, too, you know. But it is it's a
unique idea.

1371
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:23,600
» So, on that note, too, I'm sorry, Mary.
I just had a couple other uh

1372
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:26,080
Who So, say that not but everybody's
going to follow the law because they

1373
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,840
don't.
Um,

1374
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:32,320
and they don't talk take them back to
the docking stations.

1375
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,960
How much does it cost to collect those
bikes? Like who's paying for that? When

1376
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,560
they just leave
>> So, that's a good question and that's a

1377
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:42,200
question that honestly I'd pose to Dana
and that we would have to negotiate

1378
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:45,520
would be that's the future negotiation
that we haven't gotten into, which is

1379
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:49,400
the finer details of what we would call
the recovery program, right? Because

1380
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:52,440
you're right, a human agent has to
eventually go recover I don't know if

1381
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,480
that's me like getting out and going get
it. I got a truck. I will do what I got

1382
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:59,480
to do.
Um, but we haven't quite ironed out that

1383
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:03,720
detail, but that is something No, that's
a serious question and that's someone,

1384
01:43:01,480 --> 01:43:08,720
right? And yeah.
>> And and one

1385
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:13,280
thing that I think is kind of easy to
and it would be much easier for our

1386
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:17,160
police to have guidelines on it if cars
are allowed, e-bikes are allowed. If

1387
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,440
cars aren't allowed, e-bikes aren't
allowed.

1388
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:23,240
» Fair.
>> Cuz that just seems to make sense to me.

1389
01:43:20,440 --> 01:43:29,680
And that way it prevents them from
uh the safety aspect would

1390
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:33,600
be much uh higher, higher safety.
Uh

1391
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:39,120
and I'm still not sold on it because
because of the congestion downtown, I

1392
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:43,680
just I just think we just really can't
It's a great op- I get the opportunity,

1393
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:48,400
I get the grants, I get us only
only that amount. I just don't want to

1394
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:54,000
add to problems that we're already
having and make that worse by uh

1395
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:58,720
thinking, you know, this. I
And I get it, you know, in Rome, yeah,

1396
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:03,600
that's cool, but in Basalt, like Rome's
a little bigger.

1397
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:08,520
We have a lot more going on there. I
just I know it's it's been done in

1398
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:10,800
places. I don't want to make the mistake
>> Sure.

1399
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,120
» of doing something uh that we're going
to regret that's going to cause more

1400
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:17,640
problems. Um
So, that those are my concerns.

1401
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,800
» Absolutely. Absolutely.
>> Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland.

1402
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:27,240
» Yeah, talking about recovery, how much
do they weigh?

1403
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:31,520
» That's actually a good question that I'm
not quite clear on, but um I do have the

1404
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,960
specs. Um so, I can I can figure that
out. I have the specs.

1405
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,680
» it's going to be heavy enough to where
you can't just toss it in the back of a

1406
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,720
pickup truck with one person.
>> I'd probably have like a little dolly,

1407
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:43,520
like a little roll out thing that I'd
have to like roll up.

1408
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:48,320
» Um you know, just one thought is uh were
we to move forward with this, um

1409
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:53,360
I think it'd be appropriate to put uh
kind of a sign at the locations both at

1410
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:55,920
Cart and if if we're to do it at the
library

1411
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:59,800
that talks about that it's forbidden to
ride uh within the park trails and, you

1412
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,680
know, things like that.
>> Agreed.

1413
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:04,920
» You know, before forbidden to ride on
sidewalks per city ordinance, that kind

1414
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:07,840
of stuff because I don't know that
anyone would know that or even assume,

1415
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,280
you know, that
>> Yeah.

1416
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:14,080
» Yeah, they they'd probably, you know, I
can assume that they'd want to come

1417
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:20,280
downtown and then park their bike out in
front of a establishment which alludes

1418
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:24,200
to the clutter, right? But just they can
they can park and then kind of just

1419
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:30,480
stroll and
you know, we definitely You want that.

1420
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:32,960
» And maybe it would be I mean if this was
to be something that we're interested in

1421
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:37,680
I mean
if if we want to encourage good behavior

1422
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:43,120
some of that might look like
removing opportunities for bad behavior

1423
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:46,520
aka I know that we have those bike racks
down on Main Street maybe we relocate

1424
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:50,560
those to
an appropriated actual parking lot right

1425
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:54,240
that has
I don't know a space or something so

1426
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,800
that we're not encouraging I mean cuz to
me you know people are going to just

1427
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:01,280
follow the
path of least resistance right which is

1428
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:05,400
I'm on an e-bike I see a bike rack of
course I'm going to park there you know

1429
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:09,160
I'm going to think so maybe eliminating
like I said some of those options so

1430
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:12,960
that it's not attractive to park right
on Main Street or on our streets that we

1431
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:17,920
really want um pedestrian traffic to
feel safe we want it people to feel safe

1432
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:22,800
when they're eating out on the eateries
that are on the sidewalk things of that

1433
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:27,120
nature I would not want someone having
someone zoom by on a bike I have a small

1434
01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:30,640
child so I feel like what are you doing?
>> And I want to say one thing the app you

1435
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,520
can also there's geo fencing
>> Microphone.

1436
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:36,800
» There's geo fencing on the app so there
are places that you can put around town

1437
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,680
that if you don't want the bikes to
access

1438
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:42,600
» And lock up the wheel?
>> Yep.

1439
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:47,200
Yeah and you can also on the bike pods
you can put like times of operation and

1440
01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:50,720
things like that and I would assume that
there would be a huge educational

1441
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:55,120
campaign hopefully partnered with the
city that we could you know introduce to

1442
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:58,720
the community put it on our website you
guys' website be a policy like all this

1443
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:02,200
stuff we're still trying to figure it
out and you guys are like one of the

1444
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:05,280
communities that are on the forefront of
like transportation and the 10 counties

1445
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:09,960
that I serve we have the most
transportation here we have our micro

1446
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:13,160
transit we have commuter routes um we
have a lot of different things that we

1447
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:16,800
don't have in other communities so we
always like to think of you guys as a

1448
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:20,160
test bed and um so that's why I wanted
to share this

1449
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:22,160
» So here's the the geo zone if you pass
it you're going to wish you would have

1450
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:27,320
got the helmet.
>> Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1451
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:31,440
No, but actually your um sheriff brought
that up, so um yeah.

1452
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:36,160
Police chief. Yes. So, I wanted to
remind you guys that. Yeah. All right.

1453
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:39,160
Thank you. Council member Faulkner.
Thank you. And thank you for saying that

1454
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:43,000
that we are on the forefront of
transportation. I didn't realize that

1455
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:46,320
because as a bike rider, like I don't it
doesn't seem like it's super bike

1456
01:47:44,440 --> 01:47:49,240
friendly. So, I would like us to stay on
the forefront of transportation. I

1457
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:54,240
support this.
Um totally. Tell me about the pilot. So,

1458
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:59,120
if it's a pilot program, like does that
mean like we're building in like in a

1459
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:03,080
year we'll look at the data and then
we'll decide at that time to carry on

1460
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:06,400
like every year. That's how it's kind of
programmed to be. Yeah, it's limited in

1461
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:10,000
nature, right? And it's limited as long
as it works for the community and that's

1462
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:15,320
going to be through an assessment. So, I
mean I if this happens, right? Someone,

1463
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:19,160
probably me, will have to be tracking
number of incidents, right? number of

1464
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:23,760
times a bike was called so that we start
to have data points of is this actually

1465
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:27,920
working out or is it, you know, truly a
nuisance to the community? And then if

1466
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:32,200
so, present that data to court a court
and I don't think that they would have a

1467
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:38,080
problem understanding that we tried it.
It didn't work. Um

1468
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:43,320
onto the next, you know, um innovation.
Okay. Cool. I I mean I 11 years ago I

1469
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:48,200
hauled my bicycle here and rode around
looking town several times. That's how I

1470
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:51,360
explored downtown and decided where I
wanted to live because it's such a nice

1471
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:54,520
pace.
Um it's different than walking and it's

1472
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:58,840
different than driving and it is still
my preferred method whenever I can get

1473
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:03,400
away with it. So, I think it's awesome
for exploring town at a nice

1474
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:06,200
for me safe pace um that like works
well. But I I would love to have the

1475
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:09,000
data. I would love to go forward with
this and then,

1476
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:13,800
you know, look at the data for a year
and a year from now and see how it

1477
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,800
works. But I'm all for it.

1478
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:18,680
I don't know which one of y'all hit the
clicker first. So, we'll go with

1479
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:26,200
Councilwoman Meyer.
>> Thanks. So, if if we decide to move

1480
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:30,320
forward with this, I would definitely
want to stipulate, I hope we want to

1481
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:35,400
stipulate some things
for sure.

1482
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:37,600
Uh where the bikes have to be racked.
>> Yes, ma'am.

1483
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:41,120
» And
the thing about the cars, only where

1484
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:45,160
cars cars go. And you already said the
trails, so that's taken care of and we

1485
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:49,880
know we can't can't do the sidewalks and
you'll work out um

1486
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:53,520
because if the cost would be prohibitive
to collect the bikes, then that would

1487
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:57,240
kind of defeat the whole thing, too. But
I just want us to be

1488
01:49:55,480 --> 01:50:03,200
if we go forward, I want us to be as
careful and have as many stipulations of

1489
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:08,520
safety and and also concern for what we
are as a city, you know, and who we are

1490
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:13,920
as a city. And that would yeah, just
let's just don't approve without having

1491
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:17,840
those concerns in there. That would be
my thing.

1492
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:22,280
» Councilwoman Meyer, my my concern,
having come from cities who have all of

1493
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:29,040
the scooters and all of the
extra and who have RTAs and have all

1494
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:33,920
lots,
my preference would be CART's contract

1495
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:38,560
with a subcontractor who does the pickup
and who does all of that. That is not an

1496
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:43,760
onus that should be on city staff
because my experience has shown there

1497
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:47,240
will be a question as to whether it was
it picked up, wasn't it picked up, was

1498
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:50,720
it picked up by the city, did it grow
legs and walk away, did the city staffer

1499
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:53,440
take it, did they give it to their
friend, did they let their friend ride

1500
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:57,520
it, did they charge it at the right
charging station, did it end up in the

1501
01:50:55,680 --> 01:51:01,240
bay, did it end up in the river, did it
end up you might have put a geo fence,

1502
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,840
but we forgot to include the water.
Well, we didn't think they were going to

1503
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:10,200
go in the water. Well, you know, you
never really know with people and I am

1504
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:13,480
speaking of experience. I am that's been
me

1505
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:17,800
when the company didn't come pick them
up, guess who had to come pick them up?

1506
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:23,320
My staff had to get in the trucks, the
public work trucks, and go pick them up.

1507
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:28,240
Um and so, my preference really is if
CARTS wants to wants us to be the guinea

1508
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:33,320
pig, which I'm all for, um I would say
we start with a smaller number, and they

1509
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:37,840
have a contract that they manage, and we
are not liable for any of the crazy, and

1510
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:41,920
there has to be some
um

1511
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:45,160
penalty associated to CARTS and/or the
contractor if they don't pick it up.

1512
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:49,160
Like like what is that? Do we get to
bill back

1513
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:52,200
what we need to pick up, etc. And you
know, I'm I'm happy I always tell you

1514
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:55,600
guys I'm happy to be on the cutting
edge. I don't ever want to be on the

1515
01:51:53,720 --> 01:52:00,200
bleeding edge, because that bleeding
edge turns out to be a bill the

1516
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:02,840
taxpayers have to pay.
>> Well, Sam,

1517
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:06,040
» That that being said, thank you so for
that, cuz I sure don't want you going

1518
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:11,800
around picking these bikes up, Debbie.
So, that's totally out of the question.

1519
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:15,640
So, I think that totally makes sense on
on the recovery. And I'm all about

1520
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:18,560
bicycles, but I'm about the bicycles
that are powered by these legs, you

1521
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:23,920
know?
So, I'm all about exercise and activity,

1522
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:28,120
which this is kind of a way not to do
that. So, it's certainly not cuz I'm

1523
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:32,600
against bicycles. It's just um the
concerns that I've said. So, I

1524
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:36,200
appreciate addressing all that.
>> Yeah, approach him. Go ahead.

1525
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:39,880
» Um one thing I would like to add is at
this point in the process, this is more

1526
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:42,920
of just a resolution of support of the
overall project. Those These finer

1527
01:52:41,480 --> 01:52:46,200
details that we're talking about would
have to be clearly drafted and brought

1528
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:49,640
back for your approval.
>> Okay, great.

1529
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:53,840
So, another uh idea, especially in
regards to safety, if someone is

1530
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:57,240
breaking the rules, um
and they call the police department, and

1531
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,880
you know, there's some discussion on,
you know, I saw this guy was going down

1532
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:02,080
the the street, and he was riding on the
sidewalk, and he almost hit this little

1533
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:06,240
girl.
Um you know what would be amazingly

1534
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:10,240
helpful is, in effect, license plates,
but not actually on the back of the

1535
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:14,880
bikes. You could just do a a single
sticker. Uh you can use the from a uh

1536
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:17,880
uh boats.
Uh you they sell them at at Home Depot

1537
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:21,480
and those and they're the stickers that
go on the sides of boats. They're about

1538
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:25,560
that big. And so, you know, since
there's so few of them, it's literally A

1539
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:31,600
B C D E F, you know, and so then it's
like I saw bike G uh

1540
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:36,080
do this and uh hit that little girl over
there. And that would give us the

1541
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:39,400
opportunity for enforcement.
>> And who was riding the bike G and what

1542
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:42,560
time did it really happen and do we have
the correct information?

1543
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,640
» Well, agreed. At least someone has it
checked out.

1544
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:50,240
» was it 10 minutes after? We we had a
horrible accident in Sensei Valley. We

1545
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:53,720
didn't allow bikes on our trails and uh
a bike collided with a runner. A

1546
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:56,720
horrible accident. We didn't allow them
on the trails. There was a lot of Well,

1547
01:53:55,480 --> 01:53:58,680
what time was it?
>> Yeah.

1548
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:01,400
» People use these trails all the time. We
know we're not supposed to have bikes on

1549
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:05,640
them and so
>> Yeah.

1550
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:09,960
But anyway, just the the idea of being
able to identify them quickly and easily

1551
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:14,960
with that, you know, 4-in sticker
uh with a single letter on it for the

1552
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:18,480
quantity we'll have would help with this
initial stage of

1553
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:22,840
you know, are people using them safely
and being able to identify them.

1554
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:26,840
» Yes, understood, Corey.
>> I was just going to say with

1555
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:29,880
with the app, like you have to put in
your information and so you'll have that

1556
01:54:28,440 --> 01:54:33,120
person's information of who's riding
bike G or whatever. And then I was just

1557
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:37,080
going to ask you guys, do you already
like enforce like

1558
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:40,960
single citizens who have their own
electric bikes? How do they

1559
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:45,040
How do they ride there? Just with the
ordinance? Okay.

1560
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:47,240
» Yeah, ordinance 202106 and it addresses
scooters and e-bikes.

1561
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,840
» Okay.
>> And and I'm not sure how many we we have

1562
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:54,640
around the community. There are some
that I've seen.

1563
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,920
Um just very few of them.
Um

1564
01:54:55,880 --> 01:55:01,440
and and like one of them has been parked
on the sidewalk in in front of an

1565
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:05,360
establishment before and I've had
somebody reach out to me about it and

1566
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:09,080
you know, like hey this is impeding but
I'm not sure how many we have in the

1567
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:13,800
community per se.
I think most people still like to like I

1568
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:16,520
do do a few of the community bike rides
and most people are out there pushing

1569
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:19,640
and pedaling.
You know.

1570
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:21,680
And not e-biking it so.
>> Well, some of the e-bikes I mean you

1571
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:26,200
still do have to like
>> Yeah, yeah, I mean I know that.

1572
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:30,080
Right, the one guy that John saw he he
shows up but like while he's patiently

1573
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:33,480
waiting he zips back and
>> forward to show everyone how fast his

1574
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:36,440
bike goes.
>> Yeah.

1575
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:40,480
And then Sylvia, I just did have a
clarifying question. Like when you say

1576
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:44,320
less bikes, so less than 15 you would
want to waste smaller?

1577
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:47,400
I'd like us to start with five or
something manageable.

1578
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:52,600
» What what do you what do you what are
you thinking? Five to 10?

1579
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:55,880
» I feel like that's not enough.
To like start a program. Like I feel

1580
01:55:54,080 --> 01:56:00,000
like it's not enough options if you have
five bikes and people take them then

1581
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:04,000
there's none available, you know?
>> Right.

1582
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:08,600
» But so when we had this discussion it's
also an opportunity there is other

1583
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:13,600
charging stations there also not just
for these rentals. And so it's also an

1584
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:16,960
opportunity for folks who own e-bikes
here.

1585
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:20,960
» To charge and take advantage and and get
there. So I think it creates an entire

1586
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:25,200
sort of community.
I mean if you guys want to go to 10, I'm

1587
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:27,280
okay going to 10 so long as the onus is
on you guys to collect and all that

1588
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,640
other stuff.
>> And I don't think we need to go more

1589
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:35,000
than 10.
Right.

1590
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:37,960
» Cuz there's five um bikes to a station
to a pod. So.

1591
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:42,000
» Okay.
So I think five and five would would be

1592
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:47,360
a good start. I know you want to do a
pilot program but um

1593
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:53,120
we're we're
No, my ears not to every street.

1594
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:57,880
But like we're not I'm not hearing the
demand or the cry for the

1595
01:56:55,600 --> 01:57:01,480
the e-bikes per se.
Um I think

1596
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:05,520
you'll you'll have people who who are
supportive and people who aren't. Um

1597
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:10,760
just my thoughts, more people are going
to be, you know, like, "Hey,

1598
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:14,920
having the same concerns um where
they're allowed to be ridden at, where

1599
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:20,200
they're allowed to be parked at.
Um I think it is a good idea to

1600
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:22,760
to have allow people to zoom through
town, zip through town without having to

1601
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:26,600
pedal,
right, to look at the historic homes.

1602
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:33,720
But um
just throwing 15, 20 of them out there

1603
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:36,840
um is kind of a is kind of a whole lot.
Um

1604
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:42,120
if the program is meant to succeed, it
will succeed. And after a year of the

1605
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:46,280
trial program, then it it can it can
grow.

1606
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:50,000
Uh but I I I I believe that, you know,
given the opportunity to really see what

1607
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:54,440
it looks like with a small number is
better for for the community. If it's

1608
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:58,480
good, it's not going anywhere. Unless
you're going to lose lose your grant

1609
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:02,560
fund and because you don't have enough
out there. Outside of that, I think, you

1610
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:08,200
know, for our community what we're
trying to see, 10 is a good number.

1611
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:10,960
» Okay, I'll bring that back. We we just
have an opportunity to bring it, you

1612
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:14,280
know, now, which is great through the
>> Well, right. And but but

1613
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:17,400
» And I think that the like the e-cabs
when they were here, we they piloted

1614
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:20,720
those. Those were really successful,
too. I think that the town is like ready

1615
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:24,080
for something like that, you know. I
think they're

1616
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:27,400
» Uh I mean, I'm sure, maybe. But again,
with something like this this is

1617
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:31,560
something worth right trying. We don't
want to flood the streets with e-bikes

1618
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:35,800
and then not be successful,
>> Absolutely. And this is the way like

1619
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:40,280
Metro mobility, these bikes are way
scalable. They're really smaller and not

1620
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:43,840
like a big system like Capital Metro has
with the Lyft bikes.

1621
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:47,400
And that's why we kind of went with this
option. So, it's a little bit smaller.

1622
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:52,000
If it's successful, then it's easier to
add on to. So.

1623
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:53,920
I agree. Start small.
>> All right. Thank you.

1624
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:56,400
» Thank you.
>> All right.

1625
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:01,920
Oh, okay.
>> So, what you talked about the pilot

1626
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:06,160
program last year and year,
and if we find within 3 months that this

1627
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:09,920
is
absolutely not working for our town, can

1628
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:13,240
we go ahead and terminate then, or do we
have to go the full year?

1629
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:15,760
» Um I would be comfortable up Dana, I'm
going to let you know, I would be

1630
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:20,200
comfortable terminating then because I
don't want to persist in it it truly it

1631
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:23,000
has to work for the community. Um and
that's just where I stand.

1632
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:26,960
» Okay.
>> And and Viviane, I know I appreciate

1633
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:32,160
your um
being heading this because I know you

1634
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:38,120
have a huge concern for the community.
And I know that your um your priority

1635
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:41,760
is what works for our community. So, I I
appreciate you doing this, too. Thank

1636
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:48,240
you.
>> Yep, thank you. All right. Council?

1637
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:53,120
» So, I'll uh I'll make a motion. Um
first, I'll start by motioning to

1638
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:55,760
approve uh this item, but also to give
staff direction

1639
01:59:54,960 --> 02:00:01,160
uh
to include uh sign at the pod at both

1640
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:04,720
locations specifying what areas are
off-limits,

1641
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:07,640
uh that we have simple license, you
know, plate type thing stickers on both

1642
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:10,920
sides for
uh identification of the bike when

1643
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:14,240
someone's riding it, that CARTS would be
responsible for retrieval of the bikes,

1644
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:18,280
and that they be geo-fenced
appropriately to keep them out of the

1645
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,280
parks.

1646
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:23,040
» Second.
>> They have a motion, do we have a second?

1647
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,840
» Yeah, I did a second.
>> I'd like to

1648
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:30,520
» Go ahead, counselor. Go ahead.
>> Can I ask for an amendment for your

1649
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:36,560
motion? So, and I I I appreciate those
inclusions, Mayor Pro Tem. Could we also

1650
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:40,360
include that they must be um
as we said,

1651
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:44,360
only docked in the either the docking
stations, which would be an amazing if

1652
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:46,480
they would bring them back, but only the
bike racks. They can't be

1653
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,680
» Okay.
>> left in you know, downtown we don't have

1654
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:53,720
any parking
So, please don't put them in a parking

1655
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:56,960
only the bike racks nowhere else in the
bike racks and only allowed to go where

1656
02:00:55,880 --> 02:01:01,040
cars can go.
>> Okay.

1657
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:04,200
Okay, yes, I will accept that. Yes. All
right.

1658
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:06,960
Okay.
Okay.

1659
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:09,320
We have a motion, we have an amendment,
we have a motion and a second. All in

1660
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,800
favor?
>> Aye.

1661
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:15,120
» All opposed?
All right, consent agenda 8B passes

1662
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:19,720
unanimous.
All right. Consent agenda 8F.

1663
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:26,360
Consider and act on the resolution
number R-2026-86

1664
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:31,400
to award $30,000 hotel occupancy tax
incentive grant to Hyatt Regency Lost

1665
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:38,360
Pines Resort and Spa to secure the Nike
FY 29 North American Coaches Conference

1666
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,360
in September 2028.

1667
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:43,720
Hello, Michaela.
>> Hello.

1668
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:45,080
Do you mean the wait for what I got
pulled for?

1669
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,160
» Yes.
>> Okay, yes.

1670
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:52,400
» Oh, and I talked with Michaela about
this earlier. The staff report uh the

1671
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:55,840
fiscal impact section and every whereas
section

1672
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:59,160
and the grant is kept at 30,000, right?
But the resolution title clause says

1673
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:04,800
authorizing the use of hotel occupancy
tax funds in the amount of not to exceed

1674
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:07,680
$50,000. It's $20,000 discrepancy. So, I
just want to make sure that we're not

1675
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:11,120
exposed to a larger obligation than
necessary.

1676
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:14,760
» Yes, yes, the correct amount is 30,000.
So, there was an error in the

1677
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:17,040
What was that called again?
>> Resolution.

1678
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:19,640
» Reso- the top clause.
>> The yeah, the title clause.

1679
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:24,360
» The the title clause. There we go. I'm
learning new terms. Um so, yes, that did

1680
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:28,320
say 50,000. The correct number is
30,000. So, everywhere else in the staff

1681
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:31,960
report and the rest of the resolution
reflects 30,000

1682
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:36,800
not 50,000.
>> Yes. So, I just wanted to

1683
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:41,520
to clarify that make sure that was on
the record.

1684
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:41,520
All right.

1685
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,400
» Motion to approve.
>> Move to with

1686
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:48,360
uh
with the uh

1687
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:52,040
changing the 50,000 to 30,000 in the
title clause.

1688
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,880
Second.
All right.

1689
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:55,280
» Thank you.
>> Mayor pro tem Kirkland, do you have

1690
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:59,480
something to say?
>> Yeah, I just I want to point out the

1691
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:05,280
arithmetic. It's pretty simple, but
uh 2,081 room nights at $329 a night is

1692
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:10,080
600 something thousand dollars.
And the hot funds that we will collect

1693
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:14,840
on that is roughly $48,000.
And so they're asking us to grant them

1694
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:21,200
in this
uh case 30,000 of that $48,000.

1695
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:25,000
Uh it's actually very unusual for us to
get hot fund requests that have a

1696
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:29,440
positive ROI.
Uh even something like Corvian invasion

1697
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:32,360
might be a one to 10, meaning we give
them 25,000 and we receive 2,500.

1698
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:36,840
» Right.
>> Uh

1699
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:41,440
and so uh it it anyway, uh this kind of
uh ask is extremely defensible because

1700
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:45,920
it actually has a positive ROI even
though we would be granting them funds.

1701
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:47,800
I just wanted to point that out because
it's

1702
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:52,600
compelling.
>> I also wanted to note if I can um

1703
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:56,600
Mayor pro tem Kirkland brought up to me
um previously I brought these forward to

1704
02:03:54,760 --> 02:04:00,320
you guys and something that is very
important in the hot world is that we

1705
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:05,400
follow a two-part test, if you will. So,
the first part of when we kind of gauge

1706
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:09,800
these hot applications um is one that
they're directly impacting the hotel

1707
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:13,880
convention industry. So, this is
obviously doing that, but then it also

1708
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:18,720
falls under the second part and that
being category three, which is direct um

1709
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:22,400
promotion or solicitation to bring group
bookings into town. So, this this is

1710
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:25,320
falling under that category three as
well.

1711
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:28,520
» All right.
Thank you. All right, so we have a

1712
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:30,640
motion and a second. All in favor?
>> Aye.

1713
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:36,560
» All opposed?
All right, consent agenda 8F passes

1714
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:41,800
unanimous. Council, do we have any other
consent agendas that we like to pull?

1715
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:43,520
All right.
>> Move to approve the balance of the

1716
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:48,040
consent agenda.
>> And we have a ordinance.

1717
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:48,040
» an ordinance, sorry. Yes, sir.

1718
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:53,720
» Uh
All right.

1719
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:59,960
8E, consider an act to approve the first
reading of ordinance number 2026-25

1720
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:04,760
of the City Council of Bastrop
Texas approving the fiscal year 2027

1721
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:08,480
annual service plan update including
provisions related to assessments for

1722
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:14,280
the Val Verde Public Improvement
District approving a fiscal year 2026

1723
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:20,080
through 2027 assessment role for the
district and to move to include on the

1724
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:23,640
July 28th, 2026 City Council consent
agenda for the second reading.

1725
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:31,880
Oh, I I We just had to read it. I We're
not calling you up. I just It's a It's a

1726
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:34,760
You're You're good. I just had to read
it because it's an ordinance. Now, if

1727
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:39,840
you want to come up here and brag about
it, then you come on up here, but we're

1728
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:42,680
good. Council?
>> Move to approve the balance of the

1729
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,960
consent agenda.
>> All right. We have a motion and a

1730
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:48,680
second. All in favor?
>> Aye.

1731
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:51,920
» All opposed? All right. That ordinance
passes unanimous.

1732
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:58,720
All right.
Council?

1733
02:05:55,880 --> 02:06:05,640
The remainder uh agenda items
consent agenda uh 8A

1734
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:09,200
8C, 8D
8G, 8H

1735
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:14,120
» My motion was for the rest of the
consent agenda.

1736
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:16,760
» Okay. I just want to just make sure
we're good. We have a motion and a

1737
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,720
second.
All right. All in favor?

1738
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:21,760
» Aye.
>> All opposed?

1739
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:27,080
All right. The rest of the consent
agenda uh pass unanimous. All right. On

1740
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:32,840
to agenda item nine, 9A, consider and
act on a resolution number 2026-110

1741
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:35,960
in support of Chief Monick
and her various accomplishments and

1742
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:41,200
contribution to the Bastrop Police
Department. Madam City Manager,

1743
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:45,480
» Uh thank you, Mayor. This is a staff
member who

1744
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:49,760
rarely likes to be in the limelight,
rarely. So, put her in the limelight

1745
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:53,120
right now and she's giving me looks to
kill and I'll hear about it tomorrow at

1746
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:57,560
the staff meeting. I just want you guys
to know that.

1747
02:06:54,440 --> 02:07:02,240
Um Chief Saphanic was one of my very
first promotions when I got here and it

1748
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:06,440
was very clear that she was quite
capable, not only capable, but actually

1749
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:13,120
enjoyed the job.
Policing is often a very thankless job,

1750
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:19,000
even in as supportive a city as Bastrop
is. Our officers are there day in day

1751
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:23,400
out day in and day out in the heat, in
the cold, very much like our other first

1752
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:27,320
responders, except these folks, they
kind of take it in the shin quite a bit.

1753
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:31,280
They've got to deal with not only our
our local law enforcement, they've got

1754
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:36,680
to deal with transporting criminals,
etc. and I don't think they get thanked

1755
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:41,360
enough. There are very few female police
chiefs in the country. The number is

1756
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:47,560
growing, but obviously I am glad that
our police chief is a female and she

1757
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:51,800
leads a wonderful um team. So, some of
their highlights, she's had seven

1758
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:57,360
promotions since January 2025. That
means growing a good team from within.

1759
02:07:54,600 --> 02:08:02,240
They've put in 12,578
training hours since January 2025 for

1760
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:07,640
their sworn personnel.
172 training hours since January 2025

1761
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:12,480
for her civilians.
Five new certification increases since

1762
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:19,360
November of 2025.
There's been a 77% increase in traffic

1763
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:24,600
stops in 2025 from 2024.
A 271.4%

1764
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:29,280
increase in grand jury indictments from
23 to 25 year over year.

1765
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:33,200
That's a testament to the work the
detectives do. That's a testament to the

1766
02:08:31,240 --> 02:08:38,400
work the staff does to be able to get
the district attorney a good case to get

1767
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:43,040
the grand jury to indict. And her
turnover rate, it was very high when I

1768
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:47,320
got here. If you recall, we did some
some house cleaning. There was a lot of

1769
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:54,160
they and them conversation in the upper
leadership. She has turned that turnover

1770
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:59,200
turnover rate from 12% to 3%.
And so for that and her countless hours

1771
02:08:56,480 --> 02:09:05,400
of dedication, I want to recognize Chief
Stephanie for her endless contributions

1772
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:05,400
to the Bastrop community.

1773
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:22,600
» Okay, just real quick before before you
say anything.

1774
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:26,280
So,
>> She's not a woman of many words. She's

1775
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:31,440
not a
>> Oh, I I know. This this I know. So,

1776
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:36,480
um
I don't recall when you started on the

1777
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:42,480
department here in Bastrop, but
um like 2020 right after COVID had kind

1778
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:47,240
of kicked off is when I first had the
opportunity to to have some engagement

1779
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:51,520
with you. I had been invited to uh
community meetings between

1780
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:54,200
um
different people in the city and the

1781
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:56,840
police department. Do you remember
those?

1782
02:09:55,600 --> 02:10:02,880
» Yes, I do actually.
>> Nady was here, right? I actually got to

1783
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:09,760
um do a a whole police simulator where I
was um trying to save hostages hostages

1784
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:14,600
and and learn how to, you know, not
shoot people or engage. But anyhow, um

1785
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:19,040
at that time, you know, the conversation
was

1786
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:23,000
um you know, what can they do to improve
the relationships

1787
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:29,120
with people in the city.
And and know, and I'm truly grateful

1788
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:32,480
that you're still around, still doing
that. Well, like that's when I remember

1789
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:36,360
you being a part of the initiative. Do
you remember what I said to you way back

1790
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:39,640
then? Probably not. So,
um

1791
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:44,680
like I would see you see you around town
and what I said to you that day would

1792
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:47,080
would really help is if you smiled more.
>> Oh, yeah.

1793
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:52,320
» Because you you looked you looked so
serious and intimidating back then. And

1794
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:57,320
you smile a whole whole heck of a lot
more now.

1795
02:10:53,960 --> 02:11:02,920
Um but I I truly am thankful uh for
everything you do, everything you do for

1796
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:07,160
the department. Um from my uh
experiences and conversations or just

1797
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:12,240
being around your officers, they all
truly enjoy you being here. They enjoy

1798
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:17,320
being up under your leadership. Um you
have been a tremendous asset to the

1799
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:21,960
department, to our city. Um and helped
make a lot of changes. Uh when things

1800
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:26,160
have been presented to you, you work
effortlessly and tirelessly to make

1801
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:31,440
things right, to get us the answers that
we need. I know you truly care. Uh I

1802
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:34,360
know you're not a lady of many words.
But um

1803
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:38,000
you know, you don't have to be at times
when it shines so bright in what you

1804
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:42,120
really care about. And so it's been a
pleasure knowing you over these years

1805
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:45,280
and getting to know you a little better.
And uh I really truly appreciate your

1806
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:47,920
leadership.
>> Thank you, Mayor.

1807
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:53,400
» Council member Meyer.
>> May I make you blush a little more

1808
02:11:51,520 --> 02:12:00,240
there, Chief?
I just want to say rarely, rarely,

1809
02:11:55,600 --> 02:12:05,800
rarely do do uh we ever get told 100
100% of the people that I've talked to

1810
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:10,720
that have ever mentioned you, 100%
have said how exceptional you are at

1811
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:15,240
your job. And I'm talking about from our
district attorney down to the people in

1812
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:20,480
this town that usually are not telling
me the best things about anything in

1813
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:24,200
this town, but come come you and and
then our chief of police, you are the

1814
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:28,600
exception and you are exceptional and I
just want to say thank you so much. We

1815
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:32,520
are lucky to have you and and we look
forward to many many many more years of

1816
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:35,480
you serving our great community. Thank
you.

1817
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,480
» Thank you, ma'am.

1818
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:41,320
» All right.
Council, do we have anything else?

1819
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:43,080
We should let her talk.
>> Yes.

1820
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:47,480
» Yeah.
>> Very few words. Uh

1821
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:51,120
well, I I I do want to say that I really
do appreciate and our department

1822
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:55,040
appreciates the support of council and
our city manager and the rest of the

1823
02:12:53,400 --> 02:13:00,400
staff and the community, most
importantly the community,

1824
02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:04,760
uh for our department and although I uh
I do appreciate the recognition, it all

1825
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:09,720
ultimately comes back to the people that
work within the department. Um and they

1826
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:13,200
also put forth all of their effort in
everything that they do. Now, there's

1827
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:18,120
always room for improvement and we all
know that, but um

1828
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:21,160
only when we fail can we also move
forward and learn from that experience.

1829
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:28,320
» Amen.
>> Um and so I do appreciate everything and

1830
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:28,320
especially the staff. Semper Fidelis.

1831
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:44,880
» All right. Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1832
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:47,560
» All in favor?
>> Aye.

1833
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:50,920
» All opposed?
All right.

1834
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:57,440
That uh
momentous appreciation is

1835
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:57,440
unanimously approved through council.

1836
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:06,440
All right. 9B, consider and act on to
approve ordinance number 2026-24

1837
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:12,280
providing funds for paying contractual
obligations incurred or to be incurred

1838
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:16,080
for one construction and designing,
acquiring, including acquiring land,

1839
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:20,240
easements, and right-of-way, and
equipment of city's water and wastewater

1840
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:25,960
system, including water, wastewater
plant number three, and two, payment of

1841
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:30,360
professional services in connection
therewith, including legal, engineering,

1842
02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:34,440
architectural, and fiscal fees, and the
cost of issuing the certificates.

1843
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:38,320
» Judy.
>> Good evening, everyone.

1844
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:42,040
Hope everyone's doing well today.
>> Yes, ma'am.

1845
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:45,600
» We had a bond sale.
And I just wanted to remind everyone you

1846
02:14:44,120 --> 02:14:52,720
just mentioned it.
The purpose of the bond is to plan

1847
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:59,000
an early development of a new wastewater
treatment plant to serve the ETJ area.

1848
02:14:56,760 --> 02:15:04,600
And also to put in place some new water
technology that creates a revenue stream

1849
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:10,120
generating effluent and potable water
for sale to industry.

1850
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:16,160
And so, in attendance today, we have our
bond counsel, Bart Fowler, and our

1851
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:20,000
financial advisor, Dan Wig Miller, and
they're going to speak on the sale. And

1852
02:15:17,880 --> 02:15:23,480
it went great.
>> All right, awesome.

1853
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:28,920
» Thank you, Judy.
Mayor and Council, as Judy said, the the

1854
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:34,280
sale went off this morning,
and the results are are before you.

1855
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:40,000
These CEOs were rated double A minus
stable outlook by Standard & Poor's.

1856
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:46,440
I think one thing to note, the bids all
came in as it shown just before 11:00

1857
02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:50,440
a.m. this morning. Of the five bidders,
they had the option to bid with or

1858
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:55,760
without insurance, which would make them
a double A rating by virtue of

1859
02:15:52,600 --> 02:16:00,280
insurance, but in this case,
two bidders chose not to do that, and

1860
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:06,400
that would be at their own cost. One of
those being the Baker Group, which meant

1861
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:11,720
a lower interest rate to the city of
4.434%

1862
02:16:09,080 --> 02:16:17,040
Uh you may recall when you sold uh some
debt at the end of last year, the Baker

1863
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:22,600
Group was the buyer of that debt as
well, and part of what makes their bid

1864
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:27,920
so strong this time, like last time, is
uh their clients are local banks and

1865
02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:33,719
regional banks that they really support
the city, see the quality of obligation

1866
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:39,040
that you're putting forth. And so,
again, it results in a a stronger bid,

1867
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:44,320
and and that's who we recommend to
accept the bid from today. Uh Bart

1868
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:49,880
Fowler is here to answer any questions
you have on the ordinance itself, uh but

1869
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:55,320
otherwise, the recommendation is uh to
accept the Baker Group bid within the

1870
02:16:51,880 --> 02:16:58,200
ordinance if you choose to move forward.
>> Mayor and Council, I wanted to let you

1871
02:16:56,679 --> 02:17:03,160
know that partner is First National
Bank.

1872
02:17:00,599 --> 02:17:06,840
So, we talk about keeping things local,
we talk about putting your money where

1873
02:17:04,519 --> 02:17:12,519
your mouth is, we talk about how you can
support the city.

1874
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:12,519
That's a prime example.

1875
02:17:15,519 --> 02:17:17,960
» Council.

1876
02:17:18,599 --> 02:17:22,960
» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1877
02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:26,240
» Uh motion and second, all in favor?
>> Aye.

1878
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:31,240
» Uh wait a minute, we have some comments.
Discussion. Council member Fausler.

1879
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:33,080
» I just had one question about the Can I
ask a question now even though we're in

1880
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:33,920
discussion?
>> Yes.

1881
02:17:33,519 --> 02:17:35,000
» Okay.
>> Yes.

1882
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:39,160
» Um
if they did not choose to have the

1883
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:42,360
certificates insured, so they are
assuming all the risk, or what does that

1884
02:17:40,639 --> 02:17:44,840
mean for I know I know it means a lower
rate for us, what does it mean for them

1885
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:50,120
and for
>> That is That means they're not using to

1886
02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:55,120
elect a third-party insurance company
that would be um

1887
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:59,559
in the event of default or non-payment,
uh that they would be a layer in

1888
02:17:56,840 --> 02:18:02,960
between. So, they're relying 100% on
this their their trust and confidence in

1889
02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:06,480
the city to make your payments.
>> Okay, how often does that happen?

1890
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:11,240
» You know, when when there's an
opportunity to bid because the insurance

1891
02:18:08,599 --> 02:18:15,880
companies get pretty aggressive and
don't charge a lot for that insurance.

1892
02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:20,800
So, I think in this case you had three
that chose to bid with it

1893
02:18:17,960 --> 02:18:24,920
because it was nominal in their mind,
but the Baker Group saw it as an

1894
02:18:22,559 --> 02:18:30,639
opportunity to give that benefit back to
you all. So, it it's not super common to

1895
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:33,719
see some choose not to bid. I think it's
because the local bank

1896
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:37,240
» Okay, yeah, it seemed significant enough
to ask about. Thank you. Okay,

1897
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:44,960
» Mayor pro tem Kirkland, uh question uh
I guess for all the legal people in the

1898
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:47,480
room.
Um

1899
02:18:45,719 --> 02:18:50,200
the
ordinance, is this an Yeah, it's

1900
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:54,639
probably an ordinance.
Um it has an underline for aggregate

1901
02:18:52,559 --> 02:18:59,160
principal amount in section one in the
recitals. So, there's no actual number

1902
02:18:56,679 --> 02:19:01,639
there. Do we need to state a number in
order for this to be legitimate?

1903
02:19:00,599 --> 02:19:04,880
» So,
the with the bids coming in this

1904
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:06,240
morning, they were posted at $11
million.

1905
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:11,639
» Okay.
>> They bid within with a premium that they

1906
02:19:09,160 --> 02:19:16,880
were paying in addition to that. So, the
par amount of bonds were adjusted down

1907
02:19:13,719 --> 02:19:19,200
this morning to 10 million 885,
which will be the number that goes in

1908
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:21,599
there.
>> Okay.

1909
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:25,240
» And the um
proceeds will still be the 11 million

1910
02:19:23,719 --> 02:19:29,719
that you need to fund.
>> Okay, but my question is is do we need

1911
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:31,960
to make a
uh

1912
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:36,120
in our motion, do we need to put that
number in or is it okay without that?

1913
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:39,040
» Sure, for the record I'm Bart Fellon
with McCall Parkerson Horton. It's a

1914
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:42,120
pleasure to see you all again. Uh that
document has been updated. Probably not

1915
02:19:40,719 --> 02:19:45,800
in time to get it in your agenda packet,
but we do have that number included now.

1916
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:48,559
Uh typically in these situations when
numbers come in this morning, we don't

1917
02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:51,560
get the we get the document prepared,
but not always inserted in your agenda

1918
02:19:49,960 --> 02:19:55,240
packet. Uh I think the appropriate
motion would be to accept as presented.

1919
02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:58,440
When Dan wrote over the numbers he just
described, that's part that could be

1920
02:19:56,360 --> 02:20:00,960
part of your motion. So, if you say as
presented, uh that will include

1921
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:03,800
everything in the ordinance itself,
which has already been done, but it'll

1922
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:06,720
button it up, I think, for your motion
and action tonight.

1923
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:09,760
» Okay. And then, should we specify the
Baker Group in the motion?

1924
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:12,200
» It's in there as well. It's also in the
ordinance already. I think I think it's

1925
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:13,720
in section number
It's all been included.

1926
02:20:13,240 --> 02:20:18,320
» Correct.
>> I believe it's in the dais for you.

1927
02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:21,880
» Madam City Manager, yeah, we have this
right here.

1928
02:20:19,960 --> 02:20:25,600
» It's a little bit lengthy.
What what is this section?

1929
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:32,360
» Oh, well, then that's not
No, we don't have it. But, um so, then

1930
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:36,600
uh in just to be clear on the motion, um
can we make it so that it is approved as

1931
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:39,960
presented
as a

1932
02:20:38,880 --> 02:20:43,400
as an amendment?
>> Yes.

1933
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:46,280
Well,
who made the motion?

1934
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:49,200
» Was it me? Yes, you made the motion,
Council.

1935
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:56,400
» I'm sure.
>> Yeah, positive positive.

1936
02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:56,400
You want us to hit the rewind on you?

1937
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:59,360
» Okay, cool.

1938
02:21:00,560 --> 02:21:08,280
» I'll second.
>> Second came from Councilmember Lowe.

1939
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:10,000
» Mayor Mayor Councilmember Meyer made the
motion.

1940
02:21:08,840 --> 02:21:12,280
» Oh, she did. Oh.
>> Yes.

1941
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:15,680
» all wrong.
We were all wrong.

1942
02:21:13,480 --> 02:21:18,520
Rewind the tape. Man, we need instant
replay.

1943
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:22,200
» Yes, I will accept that. Yes.
>> Okay. Sounds good. Mayor Pro Tem

1944
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:23,920
Kirkland, you have anything else you'd
like to still on?

1945
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:26,680
» That's it.
>> Okay.

1946
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:28,880
All right, we have a motion and we have
a second.

1947
02:21:27,880 --> 02:21:31,000
All in favor?
>> Aye.

1948
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:36,960
» All opposed?
All right, thank you.

1949
02:21:33,880 --> 02:21:39,360
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
All right.

1950
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:47,760
Let's see here. Agenda item 9C, consider
and act to approve Thank you, gentlemen.

1951
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:52,040
Um
consider and act to approve the first

1952
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:55,680
reading of ordinance number 2026-2
City Council of city of Bastrop, Texas,

1953
02:21:54,040 --> 02:22:00,280
amending the operating and capital
budget for the fiscal year 2026 in

1954
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:05,240
accordance with the existing statutory
requirements, appropriating the various

1955
02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:11,000
amounts herein as attached
as exhibit A, repealing all prior

1956
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:15,520
ordinances and actions in conflict
herewith, establishing an effective

1957
02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:21,400
date, and move to include in the July
28, 2026 city council consent agenda for

1958
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:21,400
a second reading.

1959
02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:26,880
» Judy Sandercock
>> Judy Sandercock

1960
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:30,600
» Finance director
>> We're ready for you again.

1961
02:22:28,480 --> 02:22:34,480
» Thank you so much. And so, this is a
little housekeeping budget item that we

1962
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:38,360
need to get the budget on our
financials.

1963
02:22:35,960 --> 02:22:44,160
And it was for the purchase of 804 Water
Street for 525k.

1964
02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:51,720
And I did a little budget um
adjustment timeline. Uh February 9th,

1965
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:56,520
BEDC authorized the purchase. February
10th, it was the first reading here at

1966
02:22:53,200 --> 02:23:00,840
council. March 24th, second reading. And
then we purchased on May 6th.

1967
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:06,640
I stand by for questions.
>> Council?

1968
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:10,200
All right. Would anyone like to make a
motion?

1969
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:12,200
» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1970
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,440
» You have a motion and a second. All in
favor?

1971
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:16,360
» Aye.
>> All opposed?

1972
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:19,840
All right, passes unanimously. Thank
you.

1973
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:25,320
» Judy, appreciate it. All right, agenda
9D, conduct a public hearing

1974
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:30,840
to consider and act on the first reading
of ordinance number 2026-20

1975
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:35,440
to amend the chapter 10 of the code of
ordinances subdivisions shown in

1976
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:40,240
exhibits A through C A through C, and
move to include in the July 28, 2026

1977
02:23:38,680 --> 02:23:43,040
city council consent agenda for the
second reading.

1978
02:23:41,960 --> 02:23:46,440
Doc Kelly.
>> Mayor and council, thank you. What I

1979
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:50,000
want to be sure that Brittany and fellow
staff London O'Cole actually gets

1980
02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:52,120
wrapped doing that. They
not able to make tonight, but they did

1981
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:54,640
all the heavy lifting on this
specifically Brittany on putting all

1982
02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:57,720
this together.
Michael

1983
02:23:56,080 --> 02:24:01,880
is part of this is this is part of the
BDC code updates we promised as we new

1984
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:05,560
things come in, questions come in, new
applications come in, we'll go back and

1985
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:11,240
tweak the code as needed based on
requests of the public, variances, etc.

1986
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:16,080
The purpose of these amendments is to
address different areas. This amend

1987
02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:19,920
chapter 10 subdivision regulations
to address platting and subdivision

1988
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:23,560
administration issues of identified
during our code implementation.

1989
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:27,640
It provides clearer procedures and
reduce unnecessary platting barriers for

1990
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:31,280
existing developed properties.
Supports reinvestment in established

1991
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:34,680
areas and recognize Bastrop's older
development patterns.

1992
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:39,440
It also adds a commercial infill
platting exemption and a process for

1993
02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:43,880
existing tracking one lot plats.
It also clarifies subdivision waiver

1994
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:49,040
procedures and distinguish them from
zoning variances.

1995
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:52,480
Exhibit Exhibit A, this is what we're
talking about commercial infill platting

1996
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:56,440
and these are basically what we have as
typical older city has. It's not the big

1997
02:24:54,400 --> 02:24:59,600
areas around the boundaries. These
internal lots.

1998
02:24:57,960 --> 02:25:03,960
It creates a platting exemption for
existing developed commercial tracks

1999
02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:07,960
where no new lot lines are being
created, no boundary changes, streets,

2000
02:25:06,400 --> 02:25:11,200
or public infrastructure upgrades are
required.

2001
02:25:09,400 --> 02:25:15,160
It supports limited commercial
reinvestment again working with EDC and

2002
02:25:13,480 --> 02:25:19,320
re-redevelopment
without requiring a full platting

2003
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:23,600
process where there is no subdivision or
infrastructure impact.

2004
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:28,320
Removes unnecessary procedures barriers
for small-scale commercial improvements.

2005
02:25:26,440 --> 02:25:32,560
It maintains platting requirements for
projects involving new lots, boundary

2006
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:36,840
changes, public improvements, and
infrastructure upgrades.

2007
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:41,400
So that's on A.
B is working with existing track one lot

2008
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:45,320
plats.
Add to process for platting. again these

2009
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:48,440
are existing unplatted lots. Normally we
call this tracts.

2010
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:51,880
Either they do not meet current minimum
lot size or width standards. If you

2011
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:55,680
remember we came back and had a 1/3 acre
requirements. These are kind of existing

2012
02:25:54,040 --> 02:25:59,200
infill lots that were never officially
platted.

2013
02:25:56,960 --> 02:26:02,520
It again recognizes our old development
patterns where hopefully these lots kind

2014
02:26:01,160 --> 02:26:05,800
of blend with existing lots in that
neighborhood

2015
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:08,800
where many tracts were created before
current subdivision and zoning

2016
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:11,960
requirements.
It

2017
02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:15,960
allows existing tracts to be brought
into platted status without changing

2018
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:19,280
boundaries or further dividing the
property.

2019
02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:23,600
It helps avoid unnecessary variances
while allowing reasonable use of

2020
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:28,760
existing properties.
That was on B and then this is exhibit

2021
02:26:25,520 --> 02:26:33,120
C, subdivision waivers, renamed
subdivision where variances as

2022
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:37,200
subdivision waivers to better match
subdivision regulations.

2023
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:41,240
It clarifies that subdivision waivers
are reviewed by City Council

2024
02:26:39,480 --> 02:26:46,920
while zoning variances are reviewed by
the ZBA, Zoning Board of Adjustment.

2025
02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:51,440
Requires requested associate waiver
request to serve with a plat to be

2026
02:26:49,280 --> 02:26:55,800
included in the same public notice as a
plat. So if somebody's requesting a

2027
02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:59,280
plat, we need to add also add advertise
the waiver request.

2028
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:02,280
And it also ensures that surrounding
property owners and the public are

2029
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:05,600
informed of both the plat and the
requested waiver. So if there's a

2030
02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:09,600
something out of the normal, the
public's also aware that applicant's

2031
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:13,080
request.
So that's kind of again a quick overview

2032
02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:17,240
of that. I've pretty straightforward
again is cleaning up language, trying to

2033
02:27:14,880 --> 02:27:22,920
work with existing field lots and get
them back in the system.

2034
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:22,920
Any questions?

2035
02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:31,920
» Councilmember Fossler.
>> Thanks. I do have one question. I did

2036
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:36,320
not catch when I was reading
uh

2037
02:27:34,080 --> 02:27:41,040
Yes, this one right here, for second
bullet.

2038
02:27:37,960 --> 02:27:45,840
subdivision waivers go to council, so
zoning variances go straight to ZBA now.

2039
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:49,720
And they don't And zoning variances
meaning not zone change requests.

2040
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:52,720
» No, so what would be an example we've
again ZBA's again thank you all for your

2041
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:56,840
support. We're still trying to get full
members as touched on earlier. We've had

2042
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:57,960
a couple of them lot coverage, setbacks,
etc.

2043
02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:02,400
» Okay.
>> So they're hearing specific to the facts

2044
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:06,720
over to requirements. Again, such as lot
coverage, setbacks, driveways, those are

2045
02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:08,560
some of the recent cases.
>> will still come to us.

2046
02:28:07,880 --> 02:28:10,960
» Yes.
>> After P&Z.

2047
02:28:09,280 --> 02:28:12,840
» Yeah, it's just a variance to the
ordinance.

2048
02:28:11,440 --> 02:28:15,920
» Thanks. I just wanted to understand.
Thank you.

2049
02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:19,520
» And a subdivision waiver um to you guys
because the subdivision is a part of the

2050
02:28:17,960 --> 02:28:24,000
platting process and the plat is
ministerial if it's automatically

2051
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:28,600
approved and normally a minor change to
a plat it is just that is an agreement

2052
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:32,120
that it's a ministerial process and it's
going to get approved.

2053
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:39,520
» All right. Council, do we have any more
statements, questions, comments?

2054
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:42,080
All right, do we have a motion?
>> Motion to approve.

2055
02:28:41,480 --> 02:28:43,560
Oh, public
>> Okay.

2056
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:46,840
» Oh yeah, sorry. Thank you. Thank you cuz
it is

2057
02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:50,160
So it's now now I'm
it's 6:58 and we're going to open up the

2058
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:54,160
floor for a public hearing. Do we have
anyone that like to speak?

2059
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:58,080
All right. Now we're going to close the
public hearing. Okay, council, do we

2060
02:28:56,320 --> 02:29:01,800
have any further discussion before we
make the motion?

2061
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:06,280
All right. Do we have a motion?
And we have a second.

2062
02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:10,480
» I'll second.
>> Second? All right.

2063
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:13,880
All in favor?
>> I.

2064
02:29:10,960 --> 02:29:13,880
» All opposed?

2065
02:29:14,520 --> 02:29:19,360
No.
All right, thank y'all.

2066
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:22,720
Sorry about that.
All right.

2067
02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:27,520
Agenda item
9E, conduct a public hearing to consider

2068
02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:33,000
and act on the first reading of
ordinance number 2026 as 23 to the city

2069
02:29:30,880 --> 02:29:36,160
of council to amend chapter 14 of the
code of

2070
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:41,040
the master development code as shown in
exhibits AH

2071
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:45,280
and move to include in the July 28th,
2026 city council consent agenda for the

2072
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:47,240
second reading.
>> Dr. Allen.

2073
02:29:45,880 --> 02:29:51,640
» Again, Mayor and Council, thank you.
Same as the previous items, this is

2074
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:55,400
ongoing cleanup by staff of stuff we see
as we go forward through implementing

2075
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:58,400
the new BDC.
Um,

2076
02:29:56,640 --> 02:30:03,200
was again the original document was
adopted in April 14th, 2026, so I think

2077
02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:06,800
it's pretty good turnaround. You'll see
it on a regular basis every couple

2078
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:10,800
months as we see stuff we need to bring
before you, P&Z and you,

2079
02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:14,600
kind of cleaning things up.
Because the code is new, staff

2080
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:19,000
anticipated a need for periodic
amendments to clarify language, correct

2081
02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:22,680
issues, and improve administration. And
again, I'm going to stress this is all

2082
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:26,080
done at staff level, no third party, so
no additional cost there.

2083
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:29,880
Staff is tracking variance
administrative relief requests, identify

2084
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:33,240
recurring issues,
and recommend targeted code amendments

2085
02:30:31,720 --> 02:30:36,840
when appropriate.
Proposed amendments respond to specific

2086
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:40,600
application inquiries, including
residential driveways,

2087
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:44,840
accessory dwelling units, sign
regulations, permitted uses, notice

2088
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:48,640
requirements, and procedural
clarification.

2089
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:53,000
Infill provisions are proposed to allow
limited administrative flexibility for

2090
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:57,040
dimensional standards, helping new
development remain compatible with

2091
02:30:55,040 --> 02:31:00,680
established neighborhood patterns. And
again, the keywords on the previous

2092
02:30:58,680 --> 02:31:06,080
situation was these in fill lots we're
trying to work with on residential and

2093
02:31:02,920 --> 02:31:06,080
commercial aspects.

2094
02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:12,120
Um,
so here's some examples for sake of

2095
02:31:10,160 --> 02:31:16,640
time. We had made two applications back
on the question a while ago, um,

2096
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:22,000
to exceed maximum impervious cover in
mixed use.

2097
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:26,400
Um, tabled, denied by ZBA, request for
second driveway on a residential lot on

2098
02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:30,360
a similar circular or
Again, there's requirements that have to

2099
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:33,560
be met showing the justification of the
variance. In this case on the driveway,

2100
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:38,320
it was an issue with a
issue with line of sight, etc.

2101
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:43,160
Of June, we had a request to exceed
maximum size for an ADU in the rural

2102
02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:47,280
zone and district on 120-acre property.
That's going to be at the July 16th

2103
02:31:44,760 --> 02:31:51,520
upcoming meeting this Thursday.
And a request for a menu board to be

2104
02:31:49,080 --> 02:31:55,560
electronic for fast food through,
specifically the new McDonald's.

2105
02:31:56,320 --> 02:32:02,080
And then
amendment one, exhibit A, is pretty

2106
02:32:00,320 --> 02:32:06,400
straightforward. What we did, if you all
remember part of our zoning, we really

2107
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:11,240
clarified this area as parks and open
space district intent. It's clarifying

2108
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:15,520
that that specific zoning category is
this city-owned property.

2109
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:19,600
It's not private parks within a
subdivision, privately owned by a

2110
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:26,000
developer or the HOA. So, this is really
just clarifying this parks and open

2111
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:26,000
space is this city-owned property.

2112
02:32:27,680 --> 02:32:32,360
And also as kind of again, I'm going
fast, overlooking some stuff, it's also

2113
02:32:30,880 --> 02:32:37,040
identified for future parkland
dedication.

2114
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:40,600
This is contextual infill development.
Of kind of gives us the flexibility to

2115
02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:44,760
look again, the goal is to work with
these existing internal lots

2116
02:32:42,960 --> 02:32:50,200
to allow certain dimensional standards
such as setbacks, lot size, lot width,

2117
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:55,040
frontage build lines, height to matching
existing neighborhood plans.

2118
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:59,720
Exception is to a minimum of 20%
adjustment to the code requirements

2119
02:32:57,400 --> 02:33:04,360
and must be supported by comparable
neighbor nearby development patterns.

2120
02:33:02,680 --> 02:33:09,360
Does not apply to impervious cover
because that affects drainage, density,

2121
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:12,840
flood plain, drainage, fire access,
building codes, easements, parkland

2122
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:17,160
dedication,
other improvements. Again, more life

2123
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:21,480
safety, drainage concerns.
Request that exceed the criteria created

2124
02:33:19,280 --> 02:33:25,120
adverse impacts would also require ZBA
review through the appeal of variance

2125
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:28,880
process.
So, basically going back on this, what

2126
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:32,480
it does, if you have an infill lot,
it allows us to kind of work with the

2127
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:35,640
side setbacks, front setbacks based on
the neighboring property.

2128
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:43,120
C is just clarifying these different We
had school and nursery child care. We

2129
02:33:41,080 --> 02:33:48,800
clarified these are for commercial
schools, nursery to child cares.

2130
02:33:45,960 --> 02:33:51,880
And restricted our licensed child care
at home. There's these certain

2131
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:56,360
categories that the state require things
like six 12 or six less children that

2132
02:33:54,680 --> 02:34:02,280
they're are permitted as a neighborhood
child. So, this basically identifying

2133
02:33:58,360 --> 02:34:02,280
commercial from residential daycares.

2134
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:07,520
Driveway, this is the one that again we
had a case on and have had several

2135
02:34:06,160 --> 02:34:10,640
discussions.
It updates the driveway standards to

2136
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:14,200
create a concrete concrete drive
approach for new connections to public

2137
02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:18,640
right-of-way consistent with our design
manual. So, that's the portion from the

2138
02:34:16,120 --> 02:34:22,080
street up to the property line.
But then again, once you get up on the

2139
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:27,040
property, it allows alternative driveway
surfaces on private property including

2140
02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:31,640
asphalt, pavers, permit pavers,
stabilized gravel, crushed stone,

2141
02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:35,080
decomposed granite or other all approved
weather surfaces.

2142
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:38,520
It provides more flexibility for
homeowners to park vehicles while

2143
02:34:36,440 --> 02:34:45,280
maintaining standards for dust, erosion,
and material tracking.

2144
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:49,400
It allows up to residentials up to two
residential driveway access points when

2145
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:53,360
frontage and spacing requirements are
met. And basically that's a lot 70 ft or

2146
02:34:52,040 --> 02:34:57,760
wider.
Includes similar circle driveways or

2147
02:34:55,160 --> 02:35:03,920
circle driveways on larger lots.
Maintains a maximum combined width of 36

2148
02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:07,040
ft and add current clearances
far from the B3 code. So, again,

2149
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:10,320
basically these lots that are 70 ft or
wider that want to do two driveways

2150
02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:15,120
where there's two different points of
access or create a circular driveway

2151
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:19,000
under the current code we adopted only
allowed one approach. So, that that

2152
02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:22,840
gives us option. Again, that was a one
of the previous variances that came up.

2153
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:31,240
ADU, this is kind of a always a fun one
to do because you look at different

2154
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:34,400
things. We had square footage, we had
these different categories. What we're

2155
02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:37,400
proposing here removes the maximum
square footage

2156
02:35:35,880 --> 02:35:40,880
cuz you have so many
variables of a quarter acre lot to 100

2157
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:45,000
acre lot.
Removes the maximum square footage for

2158
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:50,600
accessory dwelling units and instead
limits ADU to 60% of the dwelling

2159
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:54,520
primary primary dwelling size. So, we're
going to look at the footprint of the

2160
02:35:51,680 --> 02:36:00,280
primary structure, total footprint, and
your ADU cannot exceed 60% of that.

2161
02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:05,680
It provides more flexibility for larger
lots and larger primary homes while

2162
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:08,840
keeping the ADU accessory to the main
structure. Again, it's a key and ADU

2163
02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:15,560
should be an accessory to the primary
structure and smaller in size and that's

2164
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:19,040
what we're proposing just a flat 60%.
Responds to a variance request while

2165
02:36:17,200 --> 02:36:22,520
existing cap created unnecessary
limitation on large rural residential

2166
02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:25,320
lot.
These ADUs still have to meet all the

2167
02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:29,760
other requirements consisting of
parking, impervious cover, setback,

2168
02:36:27,600 --> 02:36:34,840
utilities, and all other applicable
development standards, building codes,

2169
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:34,840
fire codes, etc.

2170
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:42,400
Menu board signs add menu board signs as
an allowable sign type for drive-thru

2171
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:45,720
establishments. All these new as we're
familiar with all these new restaurants

2172
02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:49,640
and so changing things out and
it's electronic type of sign but it's

2173
02:36:47,320 --> 02:36:53,640
really not a menu board I mean a sign.
You really can't see it from the street.

2174
02:36:51,880 --> 02:36:56,560
Establishes standards for the size,
number, and location of menu board

2175
02:36:55,360 --> 02:37:00,120
signs.
Allows electronic menu board to be meet

2176
02:36:58,600 --> 02:37:03,120
extended again, we want to meet our dark
sky illumination.

2177
02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:06,640
Uh
not oriented directly toward the public

2178
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:10,680
right away. Again, the intent is just
for a drive-thru for a menu.

2179
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:14,160
Provides clarity for applicants and
staff while maintaining limits on

2180
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:16,680
lighting, visible building, and signing
packs.

2181
02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:23,360
And this one is going to clarify in
various procedures.

2182
02:37:21,440 --> 02:37:27,120
Removes the requirements for ZBA
meetings to be held within 45 days of

2183
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:30,120
applicant submittal.
Allows various public hearings to be

2184
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:35,480
scheduled after applications are
completed.

2185
02:37:32,400 --> 02:37:40,000
Um and notice requirements are met.
Provides staff time to review applicants

2186
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:45,400
requesting missing information. And
prepares items for ZBA consideration.

2187
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:50,920
Maintenance are regular monthly ZBA
meetings while complete applications

2188
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:54,520
generally scheduled within 4 to 5 weeks.
Continues mail notice to surrounding

2189
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:57,200
property owners and posted signs on the
property.

2190
02:37:55,760 --> 02:38:00,000
But removes the newspaper notice
requirement.

2191
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:09,320
And this is a amendment eight, exhibit
H.

2192
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:13,480
Um up sta- updates zoning those
requirements to align with the recent

2193
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:16,960
Texas Local Government Code amendments.
It clarifies our timing for newspaper

2194
02:38:15,520 --> 02:38:22,640
notice.
And mail notice before public hearings.

2195
02:38:19,800 --> 02:38:28,920
Establishes development plan approaches
approvals require expire after 1 year if

2196
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:34,080
no building permit has been applied for.
Allows staff to closely inactive to

2197
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:37,920
close inactive development plan
application after 6 months with no

2198
02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:42,360
applicant activity.
Help us sure delayed or inactive

2199
02:38:40,040 --> 02:38:46,640
projects are reviewed for concurrent
conditions.

2200
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:50,960
Adopted standards and applicable
code updates.

2201
02:38:49,520 --> 02:38:54,640
And let me go back. So, on this one, I
apologize real quick last minute. I put

2202
02:38:52,800 --> 02:38:58,480
in front of you guys this other night.
We wanted to clarify some language. If

2203
02:38:56,280 --> 02:39:03,440
you look at page three, and I tried to
tab them for you for sake of time.

2204
02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:07,360
You'll see on page three, there was some
mis- clarification and the ordinance

2205
02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:12,600
said one thing and the exhibit said
another thing. You see at the top of

2206
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:17,000
page three in red, Exhibit H provides
that site development plans in review,

2207
02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:20,360
and there's the category of review and
issuance.

2208
02:39:18,400 --> 02:39:25,440
Exhibit H also provides that site
development plans in review, such

2209
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:30,640
applications require expires if no
activity consisting of additional

2210
02:39:27,960 --> 02:39:34,720
information being submitted submitted to
address the review commitments is

2211
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:38,280
received within a 1-year period. So, the
goal was not to close this any case out

2212
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:41,400
because they're not taking any activity,
but we have some that are like 2 or 3

2213
02:39:39,560 --> 02:39:46,240
years old, they submit stuff, they never
follow through. So, we keep them up, and

2214
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:49,440
to clarify activity, we come up with a
review,

2215
02:39:47,560 --> 02:39:53,680
and there's a comment address drainage,
address fire. Activity we'll see that

2216
02:39:51,600 --> 02:39:56,560
applicant addressing
addressing that.

2217
02:39:56,720 --> 02:40:01,920
It's not emails back and forth, we're
working on them. We need to see some

2218
02:39:59,560 --> 02:40:05,200
true action. We give you responses,
respond to our responses again on

2219
02:40:03,440 --> 02:40:08,840
drainage, setbacks, etc. So, that
clarifies that.

2220
02:40:07,200 --> 02:40:12,640
You flip further back, you see in the
body of the

2221
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:17,960
document towards about four pages from
the back, we mirrored that language, so

2222
02:40:15,040 --> 02:40:23,840
language matches in the ordinance, and
matches in the exhibit.

2223
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:29,800
And in the very last last page we added
for the far top left or under the box

2224
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:34,240
for review recommended. So, that's part
of the grammar that was caused that we

2225
02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:34,240
tried to tweak for everybody.

2226
02:40:34,480 --> 02:40:40,560
Any questions?
>> Councilmember Plunkett.

2227
02:40:37,240 --> 02:40:43,160
» Yeah, I just real quick on Amendment 1,
I think it was the very top one. I

2228
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:45,360
didn't notice it when I was
reading it the first time, but

2229
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:49,440
» Okay.
>> Um

2230
02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:53,480
you're talking about
Let's see.

2231
02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:57,800
Explain Explain, I guess, the why we're
specifying that city-owned land rather

2232
02:40:56,440 --> 02:41:01,960
than
uh parks, you know, dedicated that were

2233
02:41:00,760 --> 02:41:06,840
like be
specific to a subdivision. I'm just I

2234
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:11,240
don't want to disincentivize
somebody else taking care of

2235
02:41:09,560 --> 02:41:14,680
public
of a public benefit if if they're so

2236
02:41:13,400 --> 02:41:19,640
inclined.
>> So, we have this existing zoning

2237
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:23,560
district of parks and open space zoning
that we're clarifying the definition of

2238
02:41:21,880 --> 02:41:28,840
it. So, I I guess I can hear your
question is the goal of this category is

2239
02:41:26,400 --> 02:41:34,560
that's this those areas are city of
Bastrop owned or lands dedicated to the

2240
02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:38,800
city. That means it really identifies we
own that property. So, a neighborhood

2241
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:43,800
park with an existing plan development
district or in with a B uh uh

2242
02:41:41,960 --> 02:41:47,080
R1 district, that would just be part of
that overall zoning, but it's owned by

2243
02:41:45,440 --> 02:41:50,760
the HOA.
>> Right, but wouldn't that I I just want

2244
02:41:49,160 --> 02:41:55,160
to make sure they still get credit for
>> do. They'll still get credit. The The

2245
02:41:52,960 --> 02:42:01,000
intent is we had a category called civic
space. And so, it was a civic space for

2246
02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:04,840
example, it was a park that's in an HOA.
Is it really civic space? Does everybody

2247
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:09,440
have access to it? Yes, they still get
credit for park land dedication. Yes,

2248
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:13,200
all of that. This is really this
category belongs to us.

2249
02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:15,880
» Yeah. Okay. That's fine. I just want to
make sure we weren't

2250
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:18,600
» Yeah, no, we are not disincentivizing.
No.

2251
02:42:16,200 --> 02:42:18,600
» Thank you.

2252
02:42:20,600 --> 02:42:26,520
Then I'll move to approve.
>> We have a couple more comments. Yeah, we

2253
02:42:24,120 --> 02:42:31,200
we got to have public hearing.
>> Oh, yeah.

2254
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:31,200
» Yeah, got you back.

2255
02:42:34,760 --> 02:42:37,880
Council member Fossler.

2256
02:42:38,920 --> 02:42:45,360
» I don't have any questions. I just want
to thank you. Thank you

2257
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:49,680
to Brittany and Chrissy and Coy and
yourself. Um thank This is exactly what

2258
02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:53,120
we wanted. We wanted to see amendments
as soon as there was enough data. And

2259
02:42:51,880 --> 02:42:57,720
so, I just want to thank you for being
so responsive to all the applicants

2260
02:42:55,600 --> 02:43:01,760
going through the process and then also
for anticipating future difficulties and

2261
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:06,200
handling those right now. Thank you.
Like this document is alive. This code

2262
02:43:04,040 --> 02:43:09,600
is alive. Thank you. It's exactly what
we needed. Appreciate y'all.

2263
02:43:09,880 --> 02:43:17,680
» Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland.
Yes. So, the driveway requirements um

2264
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:22,320
this amendment came about because we had
a resident on in North Bastrop who

2265
02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:25,360
stopped in front of my house and and
said that he had gotten a code

2266
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:30,000
enforcement letter
um because he had sort of I don't know

2267
02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:33,320
built maybe it was pavers or maybe it
was just uh

2268
02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:36,560
you know, crushed granite or something
and he was basically pulling up on his

2269
02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:40,120
driveway and then pulling off to the
right side.

2270
02:43:37,960 --> 02:43:46,160
And uh and so I started asking
questions. And so I guess I'm curious

2271
02:43:42,680 --> 02:43:49,960
like how this fixes it. Um not Yeah,
yeah, I'm curious how this fixes it A,

2272
02:43:48,480 --> 02:43:53,280
uh and then also B, what are we doing
with like

2273
02:43:51,080 --> 02:43:57,480
you know, North Hill Street which
doesn't have concrete entrances to any

2274
02:43:55,520 --> 02:44:02,520
of the houses because it's just goes
directly from asphalt to dirt.

2275
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:06,440
Uh and and so I guess part of my
question is is is this only for new

2276
02:44:04,480 --> 02:44:10,280
development? It is and if it's only
okay.

2277
02:44:07,280 --> 02:44:13,920
» No, it's for and and you're right uh
Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland. I I you brought

2278
02:44:11,960 --> 02:44:18,320
up the issue with the driveway. I I
recall that one. Uh Judy Hoover had the

2279
02:44:16,600 --> 02:44:23,000
issue with the circular drive. So, we're
addressing that one so long as there's

2280
02:44:20,120 --> 02:44:28,440
not a visual obstruction. Um a lot of
these things are to address what exists

2281
02:44:25,720 --> 02:44:31,160
and as infill is coming in, it can match
the built environment.

2282
02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:33,680
» Well, and and I get how, you know,
infill

2283
02:44:32,400 --> 02:44:38,640
you know, maybe you want to require
concrete to the in the right-of-way area

2284
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:42,240
up to the beginning of their house and
then or not their house but their

2285
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:46,440
private property and then they can put
whatever they want that's allowed here.

2286
02:44:44,320 --> 02:44:50,760
And I see how we've expanded the list of
services to things besides concrete. I

2287
02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:55,960
Yeah, I totally get that. But you know,
is this going to make houses that have

2288
02:44:53,800 --> 02:45:00,080
been on Hill Street for decades you
know, illegal because they have dirt

2289
02:44:57,920 --> 02:45:04,080
driveway coming off of a
city street with no curb and gutter.

2290
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:06,400
» No, those those should have always been
existing non-conforming.

2291
02:45:05,920 --> 02:45:10,560
» Okay.
>> never have created a code enforcement

2292
02:45:08,840 --> 02:45:13,000
issue and we we had some of that
conversation already.

2293
02:45:11,720 --> 02:45:15,960
» Okay.
Um

2294
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:19,920
» Now, it does prevent somebody who's
building on Hill Street on a lot that's

2295
02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:22,880
never been built on
from leaving dirt.

2296
02:45:22,120 --> 02:45:25,720
» No,
and I and I don't have a problem with

2297
02:45:24,640 --> 02:45:32,720
that. I
I'm just trying to see how this change

2298
02:45:29,960 --> 02:45:38,120
fixed the the issue with the gentleman
who pulls up and off to the right of his

2299
02:45:34,760 --> 02:45:41,680
driveway onto another surface if
you know, it's if it's not supposed to

2300
02:45:39,560 --> 02:45:45,880
apply to people that are already
in a home why does this change fix it?

2301
02:45:44,520 --> 02:45:48,880
And and if this change is supposed to
fix it

2302
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:51,080
you know, why does it not also do things
for people on Hill Street? That's kind

2303
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:55,160
of the nature of
>> So, first of all, he the the person that

2304
02:45:53,520 --> 02:46:00,000
you're referring to should never have
had a code enforcement issue. Ever.

2305
02:45:57,960 --> 02:46:04,960
Because he's existing non-conforming and
in the rest of the world Doc and I say

2306
02:46:02,320 --> 02:46:08,960
this all the time. In the rest I'm
sorry, I have to laugh quietly about

2307
02:46:06,680 --> 02:46:14,160
that. Because this is an alternate
reality sometimes. In the rest of the

2308
02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:19,800
world flat work doesn't require permit.
And so long as you're within the

2309
02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:24,600
confines of your lot and not causing
extensive drainage issues to somebody

2310
02:46:21,760 --> 02:46:28,200
else, you're fine. And you can park
along that gentleman if I recall was

2311
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:32,240
parked along his fence at an angle and
that's how it worked. Totally fine. But

2312
02:46:30,480 --> 02:46:36,280
what it did raise for us is you know
what, there are other people like these

2313
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:39,480
folks back here on Pine who use an
alternate driveway method because it's

2314
02:46:38,120 --> 02:46:42,680
so narrow and they're just those
concrete pads. You know what, that's

2315
02:46:41,240 --> 02:46:47,240
probably better for drainage. We should
probably allow that too. And let's not

2316
02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:51,760
penalize folks for trying to number one,
be better, number two, match the built

2317
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:54,120
environment, and number three,
doing things we hadn't even thought

2318
02:46:53,400 --> 02:46:56,880
about doing.
>> Mhm.

2319
02:46:55,520 --> 02:47:00,720
Yeah. No, I mean, I think a third of us
up here probably don't have concrete

2320
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:05,040
drives,
including myself. So, I I I mean, I I

2321
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:08,400
get why that's useful for people that
are building new ones. So, but anyway,

2322
02:47:07,120 --> 02:47:12,680
thank you.
>> He digresses.

2323
02:47:10,200 --> 02:47:17,560
All right.
It is now

2324
02:47:15,680 --> 02:47:21,840
9:17. We're going to open the floor for
public hearing. Do we have anyone that

2325
02:47:19,760 --> 02:47:24,640
would wish to speak?
No, we're going to close the public

2326
02:47:23,360 --> 02:47:28,000
hearing.
All right, Council, do we have any

2327
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:31,240
further discussion?
>> Motion to approve.

2328
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:36,800
» We have a motion. Do we have a second?
>> We have a motion and a second. Council

2329
02:47:33,160 --> 02:47:36,800
Member Myrick came with the second.

2330
02:47:39,800 --> 02:47:42,040
All right, all in favor?
>> I.

2331
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:46,080
» I.
>> All opposed?

2332
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:50,440
All right. Now, we're on to the good fun
stuff. Agenda item 9F.

2333
02:47:49,800 --> 02:47:54,960
Uh
consider and act on a resolution number

2334
02:47:52,400 --> 02:48:00,080
R-2026
106 to conduct a feasibility study with

2335
02:47:57,640 --> 02:48:04,800
the YMCA of Greater Austin to be
performed by Triangle 2 Inc. And just so

2336
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:09,720
y'all know, we're always working on
stuff, y'all. Just just like y'all have

2337
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:13,880
to be patient with us. When the timing
is right, we'll present things. But, we

2338
02:48:11,960 --> 02:48:18,160
hear y'all, we see y'all, we have things
that we're concerned about. This is one

2339
02:48:15,520 --> 02:48:21,720
of those items, Madam City Manager.
>> Exactly right. You guys have tasked me

2340
02:48:20,200 --> 02:48:26,320
to go figure out how to make a rec
center happen, and

2341
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:30,840
resurrected conversations with the Y.
They're very interested. Part of that

2342
02:48:28,360 --> 02:48:34,880
conversation is who, what, when, and
where.

2343
02:48:32,200 --> 02:48:39,320
And um this is this is step one to a
longer goal of hopefully having a

2344
02:48:36,760 --> 02:48:45,720
functional recreation center that is
partly managed by the Y. We all know

2345
02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:50,040
those things are our tremendous asset
needs. Not just a need because the

2346
02:48:47,680 --> 02:48:54,600
community wants it, but
they they fill a need of a wider area,

2347
02:48:53,080 --> 02:48:59,080
not just the city, but folks in the
county because there isn't a larger

2348
02:48:56,400 --> 02:49:02,920
space like that. But with that comes the
requirement for operational costs and

2349
02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:08,800
again, the who, what, when, where and
why. And that's what this study aims to

2350
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:13,080
identify.
>> Yeah, I think it's great that

2351
02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:18,880
we're having another look.
A lot of people don't know the the real

2352
02:49:14,840 --> 02:49:22,920
deal, the real spiel behind the YMCA and
why it no longer is here.

2353
02:49:20,960 --> 02:49:25,520
Some people claim they know and put
videos out there like they know what

2354
02:49:24,440 --> 02:49:31,080
they're talking about, but they weren't
here and didn't know. And so

2355
02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:34,440
it's just good to have this opportunity
to be able to revisit and start

2356
02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:37,520
rebuilding the relationship. Hopefully
we can get somewhere. Hopefully it

2357
02:49:36,440 --> 02:49:41,720
it
it shows that it's something that'll

2358
02:49:39,280 --> 02:49:45,120
work for our community. So, counselor,
do we have any discussion?

2359
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:49,200
All right.
>> Motion to approve.

2360
02:49:48,600 --> 02:49:51,480
» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. All in

2361
02:49:50,920 --> 02:49:54,320
favor?
>> Aye.

2362
02:49:52,280 --> 02:49:59,960
» All opposed?
All right. Motion passes unanimous.

2363
02:49:57,240 --> 02:50:05,480
Agenda passes unanimous. On to agenda
item 9H, consider and act on a

2364
02:50:02,200 --> 02:50:10,120
resolution number R-20
26-109

2365
02:50:07,600 --> 02:50:14,320
in the amount of $74,000 to conduct
phase two of the hospital feasibility

2366
02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:19,520
study.
>> Thank you, mayor. Again, we conducted

2367
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:24,080
phase one of the hospital feasibility
study and we have our consultant with

2368
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:29,160
RTG available for
any questions. This essentially hones in

2369
02:50:26,840 --> 02:50:34,160
on the service area. We we had a really
large service area that identified at

2370
02:50:31,480 --> 02:50:38,000
least a 500 bed deficiency. If you
recall from the prior graphs, we also

2371
02:50:36,400 --> 02:50:41,920
had a large swing. We had a lot of
geriatric

2372
02:50:39,800 --> 02:50:46,560
and then we had a lot of new incoming
pediatric needs and the the gamut

2373
02:50:44,280 --> 02:50:50,200
spread. And
phase two of the feasibility study

2374
02:50:48,240 --> 02:50:55,720
number one helps us hone in on that and
number two also begins to have the

2375
02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:59,680
conversations with the providers. We've
already reached out to Ascension Seton,

2376
02:50:57,520 --> 02:51:05,960
have already reached out to the top four
providers, I'll remind you. Baylor Scott

2377
02:51:03,160 --> 02:51:11,120
& White, St. David's, the Methodist
Hospital and Ascension Seton with

2378
02:51:08,320 --> 02:51:15,880
Ascension Seton ranking at the lowest.
We do have a conversation with three of

2379
02:51:13,920 --> 02:51:22,160
the four, have not been able to schedule
with the Methodist, but this item also

2380
02:51:20,200 --> 02:51:27,000
engages RTG with some of those
conversations and those are

2381
02:51:23,440 --> 02:51:31,360
conversations well above what
yours truly and your staff

2382
02:51:29,160 --> 02:51:34,960
can do. Hospitals have CCN boundaries
also, who knew?

2383
02:51:33,200 --> 02:51:39,880
So there's some intricacies that need to
be involved. There is some dollar amount

2384
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:44,840
in here, it's about $20,000 that we
programmed for public input.

2385
02:51:42,560 --> 02:51:49,120
I don't know how much public input is
going to be required and quite frankly,

2386
02:51:47,240 --> 02:51:54,160
I won't know that until we have
conversations with the hospital. Many of

2387
02:51:51,760 --> 02:51:56,720
you have expressed the concern about the
hospital's going to do, what the

2388
02:51:55,240 --> 02:52:01,040
hospital's going to do, why are you
bringing in public input? And the

2389
02:51:59,120 --> 02:52:04,280
reality of that is we hone in to some of
those specialties that may be a

2390
02:52:02,440 --> 02:52:10,520
conversation we need to have, especially
if there's a a tie among the hospitals.

2391
02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:15,160
But we do have RTG on the line. She is
available, her name is Leanne Odom. Any

2392
02:52:13,040 --> 02:52:20,480
questions that you have of me or her,
please feel free to shoot.

2393
02:52:17,480 --> 02:52:20,480
» Hello Leanne.

2394
02:52:21,640 --> 02:52:25,880
She can't hear me. Mayor Pro Tem
Kirkland.

2395
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:28,880
» Leanne?
>> There's a little bit of an echo.

2396
02:52:27,200 --> 02:52:34,560
» Oh, there you go. I was just saying
hello. Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland has has

2397
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:37,160
something he would like to say.
>> Good evening.

2398
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:41,960
» So, I'm trying to find the right words.
So, I was one of the individuals that

2399
02:52:40,480 --> 02:52:46,800
said a hospital's going to do what a
hospital's going to do. Um and uh I'm

2400
02:52:44,720 --> 02:52:50,160
also enthusiastically in support of
doing things that we can to attract a

2401
02:52:48,880 --> 02:52:55,200
hospital. So, I just want to be very
clear, you know,

2402
02:52:51,720 --> 02:52:59,240
uh about that. Uh I also look at uh an
item like $74,000 and say, "Hey, you

2403
02:52:57,600 --> 02:53:01,880
know, are we you know, do we need to
spend this? And is this the right thing

2404
02:53:00,680 --> 02:53:05,880
to do?"
Um

2405
02:53:03,520 --> 02:53:10,800
and so I I guess
uh you know, Sylvia, I knew that you had

2406
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:13,880
discussed having conversations with
um

2407
02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:16,560
with various hospital groups. And And I
think what I was

2408
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:20,640
planning to say before you said some of
the things that you said was, you know,

2409
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:25,040
maybe we should hold off and ask them
what type of a study they may need. Cuz

2410
02:53:23,080 --> 02:53:28,240
for instance, if we would go and spend
$40,000 on a study that none of them

2411
02:53:27,120 --> 02:53:33,680
need. Like they all know what their
business is today.

2412
02:53:30,280 --> 02:53:36,520
Um and know what kind of uh services
they would need to provide. I mean, you

2413
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:39,720
know, this is their business. They're
experts at it.

2414
02:53:37,960 --> 02:53:43,080
Uh I I'm just
I'm wondering if there's another way to

2415
02:53:41,120 --> 02:53:46,440
go about this that where we Like for
instance, you know, if we didn't approve

2416
02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:49,880
the study tonight, you know, what
hospital opportunity are we likely to

2417
02:53:48,560 --> 02:53:54,560
lose? And I don't even know if we would
know that. And maybe uh

2418
02:53:52,480 --> 02:53:57,800
alternatively, two of the four hospitals
would come back and say,

2419
02:53:56,160 --> 02:54:01,240
"Uh no, that particular study you're
planning on doing, we don't need help

2420
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:06,040
with that, but we could use help with
this other thing over here, which we

2421
02:54:03,640 --> 02:54:11,520
didn't spend money on yet and is going
to cost us new money." And so I I guess

2422
02:54:09,480 --> 02:54:15,360
I I I almost wish that we could talk to
them about is there any information that

2423
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:19,400
would be helpful in them making a
decision? And then using that input to

2424
02:54:17,760 --> 02:54:23,560
go for a phase two.
>> Sure. Leanne has a She's got a very good

2425
02:54:22,040 --> 02:54:28,640
and I'll just give you the short spiel.
They may want to provide a service that

2426
02:54:26,200 --> 02:54:33,520
we don't feel is necessary. They may
want to provide a service that for

2427
02:54:30,480 --> 02:54:37,560
whatever reason is duplicative in a very
nearby area because of their ability to

2428
02:54:35,640 --> 02:54:40,600
move doctors. And I'm just looking at
the Baylor Scott & White model and quite

2429
02:54:39,080 --> 02:54:46,080
frankly, the St. David's model where
there are cohorts of doctors that move

2430
02:54:42,800 --> 02:54:50,160
along at each of the hospitals. And um
Leanne, will you will you chime in to

2431
02:54:48,160 --> 02:54:55,480
some of that?
>> Yeah, yes, certainly, Sylvia. And

2432
02:54:52,360 --> 02:54:59,280
certainly the the context here is that
as we did the input study, I'm sure the

2433
02:54:57,480 --> 02:55:03,240
point being
and in further dialogue, you know, we

2434
02:55:01,720 --> 02:55:07,440
kind of pointed out that there were
definitely

2435
02:55:04,720 --> 02:55:12,840
unknowns. There's that community input
part and then, you know, the topic of

2436
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:16,280
hey, the hospitals are going to have
particular point of view under the

2437
02:55:14,840 --> 02:55:20,040
table.
And that point of view could vary

2438
02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:24,760
whoever from
as Sylvia said

2439
02:55:22,600 --> 02:55:28,800
to what degree will they be duplicative
services

2440
02:55:27,440 --> 02:55:32,640
from what they're already offering
nearby today.

2441
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:38,320
How much of the service is will be de
novo? Um what their strategy will be

2442
02:55:36,160 --> 02:55:42,800
again, either expanding their own
services or what will be a competitive

2443
02:55:40,760 --> 02:55:46,800
move for them.
And as we frame out all these different

2444
02:55:44,520 --> 02:55:50,680
scenarios, that's when
the discussion that, you know, we had

2445
02:55:48,800 --> 02:55:54,200
with Sylvia's team
is, "Hey, are you prepared to have these

2446
02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:58,320
conversations with these different
healthcare entities?"

2447
02:55:56,200 --> 02:56:03,120
Um and the and that's where our role
comes into this whole work. It's to

2448
02:56:00,080 --> 02:56:05,600
serve, support and advise people in this
space.

2449
02:56:06,440 --> 02:56:12,440
» I sent the council, I forwarded you an
email just now. It has some talking

2450
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:15,040
points, good information about the study
itself.

2451
02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:25,600
» Thank you, Leanne. Mayor Pro Tem
Kirkland, do have anything else? You're

2452
02:56:24,680 --> 02:56:29,000
still lit up.
>> Yeah, I know I am. I mean

2453
02:56:30,640 --> 02:56:37,200
I don't know that my question is
answered.

2454
02:56:33,600 --> 02:56:42,320
Uh that that it really does sort of
you know, like for instance

2455
02:56:40,240 --> 02:56:48,120
if we did not do
if we didn't pay for this today

2456
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:51,240
um which hotel or hotel
which hospital opportunity would would

2457
02:56:49,760 --> 02:56:55,280
not be available to us? And I don't know
that we even know the answer to that,

2458
02:56:53,040 --> 02:56:59,560
which then causes me to be hesitant to
spend the money without

2459
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:01,800
I don't know, maybe having those
conversations with the the hot hospitals

2460
02:57:01,480 --> 02:57:07,000
first.
>> So, and I'm not comfortable entering the

2461
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:11,120
conversation with those hospitals
without information. And so, I will you

2462
02:57:09,680 --> 02:57:16,360
know, one of the questions that was
posed to me by the developer group the

2463
02:57:14,320 --> 02:57:20,000
developer by the way has sat on some of
those boards and said which hospital is

2464
02:57:18,520 --> 02:57:24,000
going to go vertical sooner. There's a
lot of hospitals who claim a market

2465
02:57:22,240 --> 02:57:28,520
share to lock up that market share, but
you may not get a vertical hospital

2466
02:57:25,680 --> 02:57:31,600
until 6 years from now. Oh, wow, didn't
know that. I thought everybody was

2467
02:57:29,560 --> 02:57:35,960
interested wants to build right away
because Bastrop is the place. Um and

2468
02:57:34,080 --> 02:57:40,240
then there is a question of ooh, there
may be some services that are already

2469
02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:45,360
locked because of CCN so to speak
boundaries. Oh, didn't know that either.

2470
02:57:42,760 --> 02:57:49,200
Um and so, there's some nuances to this
and and I'm totally comfortable and I

2471
02:57:47,000 --> 02:57:52,720
think they are also if you guys say,
well, we're not going to open up the

2472
02:57:50,280 --> 02:57:57,120
public comments until you get through
those negotiations because there is

2473
02:57:54,760 --> 02:58:02,000
going to be some public input on what
are those services the hospital is

2474
02:57:59,200 --> 02:58:06,160
offering to serve and do they match what
uh our own independent study has said we

2475
02:58:04,240 --> 02:58:11,520
are needing here.
>> And you know, there's a a base bid for

2476
02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:15,920
40,000 and an additional 14,000 to
assist in discussion and negotiation

2477
02:58:13,280 --> 02:58:19,800
with potential partners. And then the
possibility of an additional 20k. I

2478
02:58:18,480 --> 02:58:24,520
mean, could we do it in a different
order? So, we do 14K to assist in the

2479
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:30,640
discussion and then,
you know, decide on what we would need

2480
02:58:27,800 --> 02:58:34,680
to study for the 40K so that we know
that we're studying something that the

2481
02:58:32,400 --> 02:58:39,760
hospitals would be able to use?
>> Well, I think A and B. I think the

2482
02:58:36,320 --> 02:58:45,080
54,000 is absolutely necessary from my
part and an independent study of what is

2483
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:49,360
our market. What is that service area
that we think needs to be best served

2484
02:58:47,400 --> 02:58:54,360
with Bastrop being the best place it can
serve. So, if anything, I'd be

2485
02:58:51,600 --> 02:58:58,520
comfortable with the 54 instead of the
74 with the the other 20 being at a

2486
02:58:57,680 --> 02:59:02,160
later time.
>> Yeah, and if we I mean,

2487
02:59:00,240 --> 02:59:05,360
once the story starts coming together
and people are making specific asks and

2488
02:59:04,160 --> 02:59:09,040
we know that we're getting closer to
something and they make a request to do

2489
02:59:07,520 --> 02:59:10,920
something like, yeah, I'm all on board
with that, too. I'm just trying to make

2490
02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:12,520
sure that we're
>> Yep.

2491
02:59:11,840 --> 02:59:14,160
» you know,
>> I understand.

2492
02:59:13,280 --> 02:59:17,960
» Yeah.
>> And the item I'm quite

2493
02:59:16,000 --> 02:59:19,240
I'll tell you, it it has a life of its
own

2494
02:59:18,760 --> 02:59:23,560
» Yeah.
>> right now because we have an annexation

2495
02:59:21,520 --> 02:59:28,480
item that's coming to you very soon,
probably at the next meeting, and then

2496
02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:34,280
we have the plan development district
creation coming to the P&Z in the August

2497
02:59:32,120 --> 02:59:38,720
timeframe. And in August, too, you guys
will be looking at the PID and the TIRZ.

2498
02:59:35,840 --> 02:59:44,080
So, it it's a snowball effect that I'd
I'd like to have in line before we even

2499
02:59:41,120 --> 02:59:47,600
get much further and and and pick a
dance partner.

2500
02:59:45,400 --> 02:59:47,600
» Mhm.

2501
02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:57,880
All right. Yeah, no, um
I agree with you, Mayor Pro Tem.

2502
02:59:56,120 --> 03:00:01,920
Um
we don't we definitely don't want to

2503
03:00:00,320 --> 03:00:06,880
have a um
just spending money uselessly and not

2504
03:00:03,840 --> 03:00:10,200
having any results with it. Um I know
there are a lot of demands from the

2505
03:00:08,520 --> 03:00:13,480
citizens.
You see the articles out like there's a

2506
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:18,600
lot of people that want it, but we
definitely need to make sure we have the

2507
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:22,800
right things set in in motion.
Um

2508
03:00:20,160 --> 03:00:27,800
I just I know for one thing though, I am
looking forward to the day to where we

2509
03:00:25,680 --> 03:00:32,760
can truly have someone say that they're
born and raised in Bastrop again.

2510
03:00:30,800 --> 03:00:37,600
Huh? That hadn't happened in a long
time. So, maybe we can say for the first

2511
03:00:35,080 --> 03:00:42,360
time in 35 years somebody's born and
raised in Bastrop. Right. So,

2512
03:00:40,080 --> 03:00:45,400
All right. Well, counselor, do we have
any other discussion?

2513
03:00:46,920 --> 03:00:53,240
» So, motion to approve item 9H with a
change in the dollar amount to $54,000.

2514
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:56,280
» Not to exceed.
>> Not to exceed $54,000.

2515
03:00:55,520 --> 03:00:58,800
» Second.
>> All right, we have a motion and a

2516
03:00:57,480 --> 03:00:59,560
second. All in favor?
>> I.

2517
03:00:59,360 --> 03:01:04,680
» I.
>> All opposed?

2518
03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:07,600
All right. Thank you, Leanne.
>> Thank you very much.

2519
03:01:06,040 --> 03:01:11,800
» Thank you.
>> All right.

2520
03:01:09,320 --> 03:01:14,040
On to agenda 9I.
>> Mary, you have some public

2521
03:01:13,280 --> 03:01:16,360
» We need to
>> You have some public comments.

2522
03:01:15,200 --> 03:01:21,120
» Yes.
Okay.

2523
03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:24,640
» But yeah, we can move on to 9I.
All right, this is um

2524
03:01:23,160 --> 03:01:28,120
the the folks that spoke at public
comments, they're members of the

2525
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:32,120
Historic Landmark Commission.
This item

2526
03:01:29,640 --> 03:01:38,920
is a an item that we actually discussed
with legal for a little bit as we began

2527
03:01:35,280 --> 03:01:43,760
trying to tackle how do we help stop
some of the oh, well, it was falling in

2528
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:49,280
on itself, you know, demolition.
I will tell you what I told the HLC. The

2529
03:01:46,320 --> 03:01:54,400
city has been derelict in its duty from
enforcing the

2530
03:01:52,120 --> 03:01:59,320
neglect portion.
The city gives landowners, historic

2531
03:01:57,360 --> 03:02:05,080
marker landowners who have applied, we
give a certain dollar amount. We've not

2532
03:02:02,320 --> 03:02:08,120
been inspecting that
for

2533
03:02:06,320 --> 03:02:15,680
those property owners to keep up the
property. So, we have we have a lot of

2534
03:02:12,120 --> 03:02:19,280
blame in this whole thing. And so, the
item in front of you is really

2535
03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:23,280
addressing
what's in the local government code and

2536
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:27,520
codifying in in our code of ordinances,
which is 315.006,

2537
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:32,400
liability for adversely affecting
historic structure property.

2538
03:02:30,720 --> 03:02:37,000
Sorry for the small font.
This section applies to those who don't

2539
03:02:34,680 --> 03:02:41,760
go through our approved permit process.
If you come in and you go to the HLC and

2540
03:02:40,360 --> 03:02:46,560
you go through the process and you have
the 6-month cooling-off period and

2541
03:02:44,360 --> 03:02:50,680
anyway, folks go through the demolition
and it's approved, this doesn't apply to

2542
03:02:48,760 --> 03:02:55,200
you if you go through the process. It
only applies to folks who

2543
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:59,160
decide to demolish without a permit,
demolish in the in, you know, at night

2544
03:02:57,720 --> 03:03:04,640
and say, "Well, I had to do it because
it was a public health and safety item."

2545
03:03:02,720 --> 03:03:08,760
It also allows the Texas Historic
Commission to file a civil action. It

2546
03:03:07,040 --> 03:03:13,280
does not allow for double action. I
can't do a city civil action and a Texas

2547
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:17,960
historic civil action.
And there are some prerequisites we need

2548
03:03:15,440 --> 03:03:22,000
to meet. They go hand-in-hand with
creating the historic district overlay.

2549
03:03:20,360 --> 03:03:26,000
These properties need to be registered
down at the county courthouse. We've got

2550
03:03:24,160 --> 03:03:29,840
to have a process in place that
identifies them.

2551
03:03:27,680 --> 03:03:33,400
We have a loosely based process, but it
needs to get more formalized.

2552
03:03:33,600 --> 03:03:40,000
And so, instead of accepting monetary
damages, this is the bigger piece, which

2553
03:03:38,440 --> 03:03:43,920
is why you heard the Historic Landmark
Commission say, "Double the demolition

2554
03:03:42,040 --> 03:03:47,920
fee is not enough, right?" They'll pay
500 bucks and and be okay, and that's a

2555
03:03:46,280 --> 03:03:52,360
one-time fee.
This says the city may permit the liable

2556
03:03:50,080 --> 03:03:56,000
person to construct using as many of the
original materials as possible a

2557
03:03:54,240 --> 03:04:00,120
structure or property that is a
reasonable facsimile of the demolished

2558
03:03:58,000 --> 03:04:04,120
historic structure or property or to
restore using as many of the original

2559
03:04:02,240 --> 03:04:08,120
materials as possible.
Um and pay the cost of attorneys' fees,

2560
03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:11,480
architects' and appraisers' fees, and
other costs related to the enforcement

2561
03:04:09,920 --> 03:04:15,080
of this action.
So, it's got some bite,

2562
03:04:13,240 --> 03:04:20,040
right?
Um the next item is it allows us to

2563
03:04:18,200 --> 03:04:24,600
recover damage under the section, and
any damages that we recover have to be

2564
03:04:22,160 --> 03:04:28,280
put in a historic trust. We can't just
go and and do that and spend the money

2565
03:04:27,040 --> 03:04:34,240
in the general fund. There's a
protection of who and what those fees

2566
03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:34,240
can be used for.

2567
03:04:35,080 --> 03:04:38,840
So, happy to answer any questions.

2568
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:46,280
This is a tool that's been in the local
government code. We have not codified it

2569
03:04:43,360 --> 03:04:50,360
um in our code.
>> All right.

2570
03:04:47,560 --> 03:04:55,400
Council, we having any discussion?
All right, we have four citizens

2571
03:04:52,120 --> 03:04:59,360
citizens who signed up to comment. Uh
three of them do not wish to speak, and

2572
03:04:57,440 --> 03:05:01,440
one of them does. So,
um

2573
03:05:02,000 --> 03:05:07,640
Ron Barkley,
uh

2574
03:05:05,880 --> 03:05:11,640
he does not wish to speak, but he shows
support for agenda item 9A.

2575
03:05:12,160 --> 03:05:17,640
» 9I.
>> I. I don't know where A came from. Thank

2576
03:05:15,440 --> 03:05:22,600
you. Uh Sandra Barkley, she does not
wish to speak, but she shows support for

2577
03:05:19,920 --> 03:05:27,960
agenda 9 item 9I.
Uh Robert Sanders, she does not wish to

2578
03:05:25,000 --> 03:05:33,840
speak, but she shows support of agenda
item 9I. And we have here to speak with

2579
03:05:31,080 --> 03:05:36,600
us tonight, Gary Moss, on agenda item
9I.

2580
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:42,440
Yes, sir, come on up.
Huh?

2581
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:44,440
» See the public hearing there?
>> No public hearing.

2582
03:05:43,120 --> 03:05:49,520
» No, it's not a public hearing.
>> All right, here we go.

2583
03:05:46,400 --> 03:05:52,560
Last, but not the least,
I'm opposed to this, and I'm going to

2584
03:05:51,160 --> 03:05:56,360
tell you why.
It's an ad hoc kind of knee-jerk

2585
03:05:54,480 --> 03:06:01,400
reaction to some of the things that's
been happening. The B3 code created all

2586
03:05:58,880 --> 03:06:05,080
kinds of problems for us as we all know.
This is an extension of that.

2587
03:06:05,280 --> 03:06:11,000
The historic landmark commission, I
believe is broken. I don't think they

2588
03:06:10,120 --> 03:06:14,920
can
do the job they need to do with the

2589
03:06:13,080 --> 03:06:18,400
tools they have.
As she's pointed out, this city needs to

2590
03:06:17,480 --> 03:06:25,000
be
more inclusive on on the terms of the

2591
03:06:21,960 --> 03:06:29,360
interaction with with the builders and
developers and things like that. That a

2592
03:06:27,200 --> 03:06:35,640
lot of people don't realize that's who
you need to be working with.

2593
03:06:32,520 --> 03:06:40,320
Demonizing these people coming to town
and buying these historic homes

2594
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:44,880
does no good at all, I don't think. And
that's a lot of what this is just going

2595
03:06:42,040 --> 03:06:49,160
to do. You're just it's it's just
jumping a head, putting the you know,

2596
03:06:47,080 --> 03:06:53,440
cart before the horse in this situation.
What we need to be really is

2597
03:06:50,920 --> 03:06:58,440
concentrating on developing a system and
a mechanism to be able to

2598
03:06:55,800 --> 03:07:03,800
help maintain those homes.
You can look and see how many homes are

2599
03:07:00,480 --> 03:07:07,880
just falling down around here. And we've
let it happen.

2600
03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:11,520
You know, and we need to stop that and
we need to actually stop demonizing the

2601
03:07:09,560 --> 03:07:15,200
people coming in and buying them.
Look behind the shell station up there.

2602
03:07:13,920 --> 03:07:18,080
That looks real nice, doesn't it?
There's nothing there.

2603
03:07:16,640 --> 03:07:21,480
You know, you give that guy such a hard
time, he's maybe not going to develop it

2604
03:07:20,320 --> 03:07:26,320
at all.
But I think we really need to

2605
03:07:24,280 --> 03:07:30,520
the real problem
is is that

2606
03:07:28,280 --> 03:07:33,800
you know, this is the national register
and the state register and then the city

2607
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:38,200
register. They
they can't do anything. It's on the

2608
03:07:35,280 --> 03:07:43,200
city. It's on us
to develop some kind of program or some

2609
03:07:40,960 --> 03:07:49,280
kind of
things that we can use that rather than

2610
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:53,720
using the certificate of appropriateness
for

2611
03:07:50,600 --> 03:07:58,280
what these people can and cannot do.
You know, to build a house, you know, my

2612
03:07:56,320 --> 03:08:04,440
house is my little house
I built that for $183 a square foot.

2613
03:08:01,800 --> 03:08:09,360
Rebuilt it. The right next door I built
the one for $163 a square foot. It costs

2614
03:08:07,160 --> 03:08:12,120
more to rebuild the older homes and
things like that and we need to be

2615
03:08:10,440 --> 03:08:16,640
concerned about that.
And we need to come up with a way to to

2616
03:08:14,200 --> 03:08:20,600
support that rather than these people
that come to these meetings, you know,

2617
03:08:18,520 --> 03:08:24,520
like the people who come early and talk
about this thing before they even see

2618
03:08:22,400 --> 03:08:27,560
what's on on the agenda here.
Makes no sense to me. You can bring 50

2619
03:08:26,360 --> 03:08:30,160
people to Everybody's going to say,
"Don't tear down the house. Don't tear

2620
03:08:28,840 --> 03:08:34,000
down the house."
The house may not be worthy. We need to

2621
03:08:32,320 --> 03:08:38,840
come up with something. The city needs
to come up with a way of determining is

2622
03:08:36,400 --> 03:08:43,440
it worthy or not worthy rather than
having people on the historic landmark

2623
03:08:41,600 --> 03:08:47,920
commission try to figure that out cuz
they're not qualified to do it. I'm not

2624
03:08:46,120 --> 03:08:53,000
qualified to do it without having the
ability to go in and inspect. We have

2625
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:56,600
inspectors. We inspect new construction.
We need to do the same thing like that.

2626
03:08:55,960 --> 03:09:00,360
» Thank you.
>> Thank you, Gary.

2627
03:08:59,000 --> 03:09:03,840
Council member Myer.
>> Thank you. So, Sylvia, let's clarify.

2628
03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:08,440
We're not
saying the HLC's going in and inspecting

2629
03:09:06,640 --> 03:09:13,080
houses, right? That's not what's going
to happen. This is a tool

2630
03:09:11,080 --> 03:09:17,360
to prevent
uh what we're scared of.

2631
03:09:15,240 --> 03:09:22,920
And I will say once
Bastrop is historical because of what we

2632
03:09:20,480 --> 03:09:28,080
have. If we lose our identity, if we
don't have enough protection, which this

2633
03:09:25,320 --> 03:09:31,240
does this helps with,
uh we're not going to have what we have.

2634
03:09:30,080 --> 03:09:34,320
We're not going to have historical
Bastrop. Sure, you can rebuild

2635
03:09:33,240 --> 03:09:39,160
something,
but it's not the same as the original,

2636
03:09:36,120 --> 03:09:44,920
you know, it's just not. It's So, my
point is let's do all of it. Uh what you

2637
03:09:42,000 --> 03:09:49,560
said, Sylvia, we need to go in and and
do way better than what we have about um

2638
03:09:47,840 --> 03:09:54,080
the shape of the houses. So, let's do
that. Let's be proactive that way. Let's

2639
03:09:51,560 --> 03:09:58,880
put language like this um
this says here for the consequences.

2640
03:09:56,440 --> 03:10:03,680
Let's do all of it. It's not one or it's
like we got to get together and do all

2641
03:10:00,720 --> 03:10:07,680
of this because to protect and preserve
what what makes us Bastrop,

2642
03:10:06,200 --> 03:10:14,680
we're going to need all the tools in the
toolbox to use.

2643
03:10:10,480 --> 03:10:20,480
» Um and I I will say I'm I'm sensitive to
um board member Moss. The thing about a

2644
03:10:16,920 --> 03:10:25,160
historic home and what's necessary is
from a building code perspective, you

2645
03:10:23,280 --> 03:10:28,120
know, Doc and his crew are going to go
in with what I'm going to say is a

2646
03:10:26,800 --> 03:10:34,160
sledgehammer.
And these houses require a scalpel, not

2647
03:10:30,800 --> 03:10:37,760
a sledgehammer. And so, when uh Doc and
his crew and and we may have to revisit

2648
03:10:36,440 --> 03:10:42,640
this, when Doc and his crew go in and
go, "Oh, more than 50, you know, 51% is

2649
03:10:40,040 --> 03:10:46,800
gone." That's a that's an okay to demo.
You know, maybe that needs to be 70% or

2650
03:10:44,680 --> 03:10:50,960
75%. We've got to come up with a
criteria, but there are several

2651
03:10:49,040 --> 03:10:57,480
beautiful homes in this town. One of
them in particular has uh daylight and

2652
03:10:54,640 --> 03:11:01,320
you know, plants growing through it. And
um

2653
03:10:58,120 --> 03:11:05,320
you know, I can't provide a dollars
because we can't gift dollars, but you

2654
03:11:04,280 --> 03:11:08,600
know, one of the things we've been
talking about is is if these property

2655
03:11:07,160 --> 03:11:13,160
owners are willing to put those houses
in a trust um and when they pass,

2656
03:11:11,160 --> 03:11:17,960
they're ours and you know, how do we how
do we work through legal with that and

2657
03:11:15,000 --> 03:11:21,520
then also a historic preservation trust.
All of the all you're and you're right,

2658
03:11:19,880 --> 03:11:26,160
it's not just one tool, it's all of
them. But um

2659
03:11:24,360 --> 03:11:32,720
a lot of these houses are on one-acre
lots. And so, even our third of an acre

2660
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:36,720
requirement still it doesn't seem to be
big enough. Um

2661
03:11:34,440 --> 03:11:36,720
so.

2662
03:11:37,480 --> 03:11:44,200
» Mayor Pro Tem Kirkland,
Sylvia, have we had a case where someone

2663
03:11:41,480 --> 03:11:48,880
has attempted well, has attempted or
demolished a house that was his a

2664
03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:53,920
historic registered house.
>> You have one that was very close. That's

2665
03:11:51,280 --> 03:11:58,400
that is what Mr. Mosby's referring to
the knee-jerk reaction to the house on

2666
03:11:56,760 --> 03:12:02,320
Church Street.
>> But was he trying to get a demolition

2667
03:12:00,920 --> 03:12:05,400
permit or was he going to try to take it
down without one?

2668
03:12:03,280 --> 03:12:09,520
» He took down a structure on the site
without a permit and he had to pay a

2669
03:12:06,880 --> 03:12:14,680
double double permit fee and he I think
just paid that yesterday.

2670
03:12:13,000 --> 03:12:18,080
And so the fear was, okay, if he took
that building down without asking, what

2671
03:12:16,320 --> 03:12:22,600
else is he going to take down?
>> It kind of falls into like the the where

2672
03:12:20,480 --> 03:12:25,160
we were at with the trees and the Pearl
River.

2673
03:12:23,080 --> 03:12:28,320
» There is a little structure at the back
of that house on Church and if you're

2674
03:12:26,640 --> 03:12:31,440
driving by and you look at it, it looks
like it's in you know, it just looks

2675
03:12:29,960 --> 03:12:37,920
like it's a shed. It doesn't look like
it is a you know, 1800 military academy

2676
03:12:35,240 --> 03:12:37,920
house.

2677
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:47,760
» Okay. Uh yeah, I guess the thing then
that I'm hearing is that

2678
03:12:43,880 --> 03:12:51,160
this has not yet been uh
uh

2679
03:12:48,520 --> 03:12:54,760
broad problem. Like as in for instance,
the house behind the Shell station, uh

2680
03:12:53,200 --> 03:12:58,480
it was not a historically registered
structure. He got a demolition permit.

2681
03:12:57,200 --> 03:13:02,560
He
s- uh faced quite a bit of public

2682
03:13:00,560 --> 03:13:06,760
opposition when he did, but it was what
it was. The house came down

2683
03:13:04,560 --> 03:13:10,080
and this would not stop that.
>> That would not stop that. No. And this

2684
03:13:08,440 --> 03:13:15,240
is really for folks who just don't want
to follow the rules. Right. You know, is

2685
03:13:12,240 --> 03:13:18,760
it cheaper to pay a $500 fine
after the fact? So.

2686
03:13:17,200 --> 03:13:23,360
» Yeah, got it. Okay, thank you. I was
just

2687
03:13:20,080 --> 03:13:26,200
yeah, trying to get clarity on that.
>> All right, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem

2688
03:13:24,480 --> 03:13:30,240
Kirkland. Council, do we have any other
discussion?

2689
03:13:27,760 --> 03:13:34,360
Councilmember Fooshee.
>> Thanks. I'm reading I've read through it

2690
03:13:32,920 --> 03:13:41,280
a few times, but I want to make sure I
understand. This is one of the remedies

2691
03:13:37,120 --> 03:13:45,760
available to us is to uh
ask the not ask permit the liable person

2692
03:13:44,160 --> 03:13:48,440
to construct as many of the original
materials. That's just one of the

2693
03:13:47,040 --> 03:13:50,920
remedies possible.
>> Yes.

2694
03:13:48,920 --> 03:13:54,920
» And so it's like
>> It's going to be up to the council. I

2695
03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:59,960
mean, I can imagine a situation where
all the windows were sold or you know,

2696
03:13:58,200 --> 03:14:05,120
you can ask them to use as much as
possible and that's really going to be a

2697
03:14:01,600 --> 03:14:08,720
negotiated term between um
at some point staff, the council, and

2698
03:14:07,280 --> 03:14:13,640
the applicant.
>> Okay, and then where is the civil suit

2699
03:14:12,360 --> 03:14:17,200
part in the
>> Uh the civil suit is if it was a

2700
03:14:15,520 --> 03:14:21,720
historical marker and the city does
nothing, the Texas Historical Commission

2701
03:14:19,240 --> 03:14:26,440
can come in and take take the civil suit
action. In which case the city would

2702
03:14:23,760 --> 03:14:26,440
step back.

2703
03:14:26,920 --> 03:14:32,400
» Okay, and they would do
>> They would collect the money, put it in

2704
03:14:31,480 --> 03:14:36,400
their own historic trust.
>> do the money. Okay, so we would choose

2705
03:14:34,440 --> 03:14:40,000
money or
the verbs of rebuilding.

2706
03:14:38,040 --> 03:14:45,720
» Uh yes, and the money we would choose
would be to build a replica.

2707
03:14:43,200 --> 03:14:47,280
» Sorry, we take their money and we build
with original materials.

2708
03:14:46,400 --> 03:14:51,240
» Or require them to
>> Or require them. Okay.

2709
03:14:49,400 --> 03:14:53,480
So there are options on how to proceed.
It doesn't just automatically push into

2710
03:14:52,960 --> 03:14:56,640
that.
>> Yep.

2711
03:14:54,120 --> 03:14:56,640
» Okay.

2712
03:14:57,720 --> 03:15:06,280
Okay, thanks.
>> And every one of these houses is

2713
03:15:02,360 --> 03:15:11,000
unique. Um the church house for example
again driving by I went, "Oh,

2714
03:15:09,680 --> 03:15:15,200
that
that's odd. That's a that's an odd

2715
03:15:12,480 --> 03:15:19,720
house. It has the Greek influence.
Um but really when you go into the

2716
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:23,680
house, it also has a cuz I walked in the
house, trust me, I walked in the house.

2717
03:15:21,520 --> 03:15:29,400
It has a bunch of additions to it. And
so, you know, to Gary's point and to

2718
03:15:27,160 --> 03:15:34,120
Doc's point, it's very hard to go and
determine, "Okay, what's actually

2719
03:15:30,880 --> 03:15:37,720
historical and and how do we save it?
And so

2720
03:15:35,720 --> 03:15:40,520
this again really is just to prevent
people from going, "Oh, that doesn't

2721
03:15:38,880 --> 03:15:44,360
look like a historic house. Okay, so
what? Take it down."

2722
03:15:42,080 --> 03:15:47,280
Um especially if it has a marker and
only if it has a marker.

2723
03:15:47,600 --> 03:15:53,920
» Councilmember Meyer.
>> Thank you. And to that point also uh

2724
03:15:51,640 --> 03:15:59,120
Mayor Pro Tem, a really good point that
was brought up at one of our HLC

2725
03:15:55,640 --> 03:16:02,640
meetings. Um someone and and let's just
take the Church Street house for an

2726
03:16:01,160 --> 03:16:07,000
example.
Uh

2727
03:16:03,960 --> 03:16:12,120
can go in and and and buy
and say, "Hey, no. Um

2728
03:16:09,160 --> 03:16:15,760
that's going to cost way too much for me
to rehab this.

2729
03:16:14,200 --> 03:16:18,800
Uh I want to I want to tear it down and
I want to subdivide this into three

2730
03:16:17,240 --> 03:16:22,560
different lots and put new structures
in." However, when you have somebody

2731
03:16:20,960 --> 03:16:25,080
like Judy Hoover that walked in the
house,

2732
03:16:23,760 --> 03:16:29,280
whole different set of eyes on
preservation, said, "No.

2733
03:16:27,360 --> 03:16:32,880
No, it's not. No.
Maybe for your pocketbook is too much.

2734
03:16:31,240 --> 03:16:39,160
You know what I'm saying? But it is
doable." So, the point is

2735
03:16:36,680 --> 03:16:44,840
we don't want to encourage people
to not

2736
03:16:41,840 --> 03:16:47,320
go the full mile, right? To for the
restoration.

2737
03:16:46,400 --> 03:16:51,880
Um
just because someone may look at it and

2738
03:16:49,960 --> 03:16:55,040
say, "Hey, no. That's I can't I don't
have that kind of money."

2739
03:16:53,360 --> 03:17:00,240
Well, ask a lot of people that have live
in a lot of historical homes, it's like

2740
03:16:57,360 --> 03:17:05,840
a never-ending thing anyway. But uh
it it's Sometimes you can't put a dollar

2741
03:17:03,600 --> 03:17:10,880
on the value of
the historical uh significance and the

2742
03:17:08,360 --> 03:17:15,000
character. So, my point was what one
person sees sometimes is a whole 'nother

2743
03:17:13,240 --> 03:17:18,360
story to someone that has historical
preservation in mind.

2744
03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:21,720
» Yeah, and the the comment that I would
say to that is like zoning Board of

2745
03:17:19,760 --> 03:17:25,800
Adjustment, we say it can't be a
self-imposed hardship.

2746
03:17:24,160 --> 03:17:30,640
You bought that knowing the condition
that it was in. And and so you bought it

2747
03:17:28,480 --> 03:17:36,040
with that intent of going through
hopefully the process to demolition. Um

2748
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:39,840
but this town has an affinity and is
defined by its history. So.

2749
03:17:38,840 --> 03:17:43,240
» Yeah.
Good point.

2750
03:17:40,920 --> 03:17:47,640
» You know, one of the things that I
contemplated in this discussion is

2751
03:17:46,280 --> 03:17:51,840
um
if it

2752
03:17:49,240 --> 03:17:55,800
takes a million dollars to rehab a house
because its roof has caved in and it's

2753
03:17:53,680 --> 03:17:59,480
been raining inside that house for the
last 30 years.

2754
03:17:57,680 --> 03:18:02,880
Um
and that house might only be worth

2755
03:18:01,240 --> 03:18:07,000
$600,000
if it was in brand new condition, you

2756
03:18:05,440 --> 03:18:10,280
know, right now.
And so if it's going to cost you a

2757
03:18:07,880 --> 03:18:14,240
million dollars to bring the house to a
state where it's worth $600,000,

2758
03:18:13,680 --> 03:18:17,480
then
>> You paid 300 for it.

2759
03:18:15,560 --> 03:18:21,600
» Yeah, oh yeah, and you paid 300,000 for
it. So now you got to put, you know,

2760
03:18:19,480 --> 03:18:26,160
a million 1.3 million to make it worth
$600,000, right? So

2761
03:18:24,040 --> 03:18:31,560
what that's going to do
if it's enforced

2762
03:18:29,080 --> 03:18:34,640
vigorously with no exceptions ever
granted by city council in in the

2763
03:18:33,320 --> 03:18:38,120
current process
is a house that's in that bad of a shape

2764
03:18:36,760 --> 03:18:40,600
is just going to stay in that bad of a
shape and continue to get worse over

2765
03:18:39,720 --> 03:18:44,800
time.
And we certainly do have the, you know,

2766
03:18:42,920 --> 03:18:48,560
things in our existing ordinances that
would allow uh

2767
03:18:47,000 --> 03:18:52,760
someone, I don't know if it maybe the
HLC, it might be whatever, but but where

2768
03:18:51,320 --> 03:18:55,800
you can go to them and and give them
code enforcement things and say you got,

2769
03:18:54,520 --> 03:19:01,120
you know, this much time to bring it up
to code to make it livable and and so

2770
03:18:58,720 --> 03:19:05,680
on, but you know, even that creates
hardships upon individuals that have

2771
03:19:03,800 --> 03:19:11,360
you know, had the home for decades and
and it just

2772
03:19:07,160 --> 03:19:14,440
it's it it it's this circle of of uh
you know, the the the solution for each

2773
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:16,600
house might be unique.
>> Right.

2774
03:19:14,800 --> 03:19:19,120
» Well, and and this item is not a
solution for for that.

2775
03:19:18,720 --> 03:19:22,320
» Yeah.
>> It's not a solution.

2776
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:28,240
» I recognize that. It it was in response
I I'm also kind of doing the background

2777
03:19:24,160 --> 03:19:33,640
work on here like what is the process if
someone legitimately had a historic home

2778
03:19:30,800 --> 03:19:37,040
that that needed to be demolished. You
know, what what is that process look

2779
03:19:34,880 --> 03:19:42,160
like? How long does it take? What what
what do they have to go through and now

2780
03:19:39,080 --> 03:19:47,720
now I I also fully recognize that the
discussion on the on the agenda tonight

2781
03:19:45,400 --> 03:19:52,840
is about how do you treat someone who
has willfully started demolition on

2782
03:19:50,840 --> 03:19:57,720
something without asking for permission.
Uh that's absolutely punishment grounds.

2783
03:19:55,040 --> 03:20:02,560
I I grant that freely.
Uh but I'm also kind of participating in

2784
03:19:59,920 --> 03:20:04,920
the broader conversation about
Yeah.

2785
03:20:05,840 --> 03:20:08,480
So, thank you.

2786
03:20:10,000 --> 03:20:16,680
» All right, Council.
Any further discussion?

2787
03:20:14,560 --> 03:20:20,000
» Motion to approve.
>> We have a motion. Do we have second?

2788
03:20:20,040 --> 03:20:22,880
» Second.
>> All right, all in favor.

2789
03:20:22,360 --> 03:20:25,960
» I.
>> All opposed.

2790
03:20:24,840 --> 03:20:29,200
All right.
That concludes that. We're going to go

2791
03:20:27,680 --> 03:20:31,600
into executive session of the Council.
We might need a little extension of our

2792
03:20:30,880 --> 03:20:35,200
time.
>> to extend to 10:30.

2793
03:20:33,920 --> 03:20:37,520
» All right, we have a motion.
>> Second.

2794
03:20:35,640 --> 03:20:40,160
» And a second. All in favor.
>> I.

2795
03:20:38,400 --> 03:20:44,680
» All opposed.
All right.

2796
03:20:42,480 --> 03:20:50,400
City Council shall convene into a closed
executive session pursuant to

2797
03:20:48,640 --> 03:20:54,560
You just want to give some cushion.
Pursuant to Texas Local Government Code

2798
03:20:52,400 --> 03:20:58,240
Section 551.087
to deliberate

2799
03:20:56,040 --> 03:21:03,920
regarding economic development with
Pearl River developer Sendero.

2800
03:21:01,400 --> 03:21:06,920
It is now 9:51 and we're breaking into
executive session.

2801
03:21:09,520 --> 03:21:14,960
It is now 10:30. We're back from
executive session.

2802
03:21:13,560 --> 03:21:19,600
Uh
nothing except for uh the city manager

2803
03:21:17,240 --> 03:21:22,280
continuing negotiations.
>> Motion to adjourn.

2804
03:21:20,920 --> 03:21:23,520
» You have a motion. We have a second. All
in favor?

2805
03:21:23,040 --> 03:21:25,280
» Aye.
>> Aye.

2806
03:21:23,800 --> 03:21:28,120
» All opposed?
All right. Thank you, Bashaw. We

2807
03:21:26,360 --> 03:21:32,120
appreciate y'all for sticking around for
this late meeting tonight.

2808
03:21:30,160 --> 03:21:35,680
Uh have a great blessed night. We love
y'all and we'll see y'all over the

2809
03:21:33,880 --> 03:21:37,880
weekend for Corvette Invasion.
>> Woo!