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>>karen mitchoff, chair: good

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afternoon I'm going to convene

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the abag plan for thursday

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november 12, 2020. Mr. Castro

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would you call the roll call,

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>>clerk of the board: yes,

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: sure.

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due to covid-19, this meeting

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governor's executive order

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n-29-20 which suspends certain

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: okay.

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>>clerk of the board: yes,

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>>clerk of the board: yes,

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mayor arreguin?

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>>jesse arreguin: here.

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>>rick bonilla: yes. I'm here.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: fine.

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>>clerk of the board: no

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chair, this is dave vautin, I

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rabari this afternoon. We

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on planned bay area and horizon

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for nearly three years now with

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the final blueprint approved in

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september 2020 by the abag board

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and the commission. We

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anticipate bringing back the

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outcomes of that analysis of the

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final blueprint in the next

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month. We're also working to

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kick off the implementation plan

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this fall with the intent of

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finishing planned bay area 2050

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including this implementation

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plan component by fall of 2021.

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next slide.

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for a little bit of context the

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implementation plan builds on

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the action plan that we believe

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was well received in the planned

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bay area 2040 process. The

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implementation plan will focus

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on near term tangible actions

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that abag, mtc, and partners can

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take to advanced adopted 35

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strategies across the four core

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elements of planned bay area

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2050. We look forward to a

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process that will engage local

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residents local governments

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civic organizations business

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interests and non-profits to

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involve take shoulders to

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identify and tackle shared

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challenges over the next five

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years. Given that all

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strategies in planned bay area

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2050 require some theme of

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partnership and collaboration

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that will be central to the

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implementation plan process.

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next slide. We see four key

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goals for this phase of the

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planned bay area 2050 effort.

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first, the implementation plan

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will work to maximize the

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viability of the plan's

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strategies. We want to ensure

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that the benefit in those

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strategies are equitable,

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effective, and that they're

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realized and that we can chart a

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path towards addressing

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challenges that might exist with

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strategies. Second the

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implementation plan will

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reinforce recommendations of

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existing initiatives whether

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those are internal to mtc and

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abag, external, or hybrid

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initiatives. This includes mtc

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and abag convening task forces

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and committees third the

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implementation plan will work to

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address emerging and

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cross-cutting issues, and

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finally to implement the

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technical assumptions included

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within the plan something that

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our regulators on the state

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level will be looking at to

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understand the near term actions

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we're taking to advance the 30

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year visionary strategies in the

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plan itself. Next slide.

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it's important to just

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acknowledge the difference

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between a strategy and an

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implementation action.

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so we have been talking about

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the blueprint for planned bay

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area 2050 for many months now,

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and it includes 35 strategies.

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those strategies are public

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policies or sets of investments

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that can be implemented in the

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bay area over the next three

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decades at many different levels

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of government. Those are not

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near term actions or legislative

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proposals. Features in this

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component of planned bay area

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2050 are specific actions that

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will be required to advance the

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blueprint over a shorter time

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period of five years

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specifically identifying what

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mtc and abag will do to support

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our partners and work

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collaboratively to bring the

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strategies forward each

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including one or more

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implementation actions. Next

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slide.

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the implementation plan will

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work to identify requirements

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for strategy success both

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identifying areas where we have

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met those requirements or have a

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good opportunity to meet them

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but also challenge areas for

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each strategy. Second, for each

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strategy will identify mtc

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abag's role, do we lead,

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partner, or support? For a

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strategy that we lead we'll play

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a primary role while still

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working with partners for

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strategies it might involve a

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different group of partners or

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agencies for the strategy and

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there might be agencies playing

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a supportive role like state or

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federal government to advance

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that strategy. Third the

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implementation plan will

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identify different vehicles for

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strategy implementation could

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this range from advocacy and

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legislation to new initiatives

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or even planning and research

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efforts at mtc and abag and

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lastly identify timeline and

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actions for the next five years.

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next slide.

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just to give you a sense of how

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the months ahead are anticipate

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to roll out, as you will note

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here, there are some stars

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showing when we will be

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presenting to this committee,

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the board, the commission, et

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cetera. We're really here in

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the second phase of the process

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right now, after completing some

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internal analysis during the

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summer and fall.

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to describe how this

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implementation plan will work.

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next week we'll be having two

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stakeholder meetings in a

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virtual format. We are almost

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fully subscribed to those at

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this point with almost 80

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attendees anticipated for both

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of the different events as we go

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into december we'll be holding

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smaller group meetings, office

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hours, to try to understand

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specific actions and further

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refine what comes out of the

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workshops.

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going into the winter in phase

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three we'll begin to draft the

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implementation plan, we plan on

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providing an update to this

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complete and other in february

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and we'll do some engagement

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with the public and

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community-based organizations to

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continue to refine the

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implementation actions.

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in the final phases, we'll also

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begin to look at potential

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partnerships to advance specific

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strategies, we'll put forward

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the draft implementation plan in

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april or may of 2021 for public

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review and discussion. And we

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anticipate the implementation

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plan being approved concurrently

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with planned bay area 2050 in

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the fall of 2021.

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next slide.

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we have begun the strategic

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assessment of our strategies to

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understand whether we have the

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four key criteria for success to

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advance the particular strategy.

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while this analysis is still

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ongoing but we want to give you

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a bit of a flavor of how

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different strategies might shake

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out. When we come back to this

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committee in february we'll be

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bringing forward not only what

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we hear at our workshops but a

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matrix of how each of the 35

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strategies scores on the four

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criteria. For example, we're

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looking at whether strategies

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whether we have the authority to

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advance a specific strategy in

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an effective, efficient, and

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equitable manner. An example of

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a strategy where we have much

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more limited authority would be

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something like implementing a

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universal statewide basic income

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whereas we have greater

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authority to expand clean

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vehicle initiatives associated

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with the air district and others

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to fund that program.

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furthermore the strategy

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assessment is looking at whether

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we have the funding to advance

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each of the different strategies

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and you can see some examples

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there of a strategy like

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targeted mortgage assistance for

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which no current funding exists

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or compared to a strategy like

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advancing seamless mobility

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where we could leverage existing

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transportation funds to do so.

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next slide please

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third looking at for each

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strategy whether mtc abag staff

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have the technical capacity and

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institutional wrap around to

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successfully implement it.

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currently we have very limited

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capacity in an area like

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expanding job training programs

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and incubator programs. And

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much greater capacity on a

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strategy like, building express

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lanes and express buses across

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the bay area. And lastly, for

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every strategy we're looking at

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the level of public and

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political support.

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in some strategies there are

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greater challenges in this

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regard like implementing per

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mile tolling on congested

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freeways whereas there such

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greater support for a strategy

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like adapting to sea level rise.

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just because there's a challenge

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with a specific strategy doesn't

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mean that strategy should not

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move forward but really had

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finishing how we can overcome

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challenges in the next five year

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of implementation actions. Next

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slide.

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the implementation plan phase

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will continue to be a very

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collaborative effort that

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involves many different

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stakeholders. This table here

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shows examples of projects

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internal and external as well as

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key stakeholder we hope to

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engage with over the course of

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the implementation plan process,

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but of course we're interested

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in hearing any of your ideas

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about other organizations or

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groups that we should be

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touching base with. We look

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forward to local jurisdictions

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and we know a number of

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stakeholder groups will be

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joining us for our meetings next

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week. Next slide please this

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brings me to the conclusion of

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overview of the implementation

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plan. If you have comments on

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high priority implementation

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areas or stakeholder us that

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would like to add to the list to

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bring to the table and just

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overall approach to the

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implementation plan phase. Next

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slide.

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we look forward to come back to

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give you an update in

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february 2021. And I'll take

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comments or questions.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: do any

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members of the committee have

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questions for dave? Just raise

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your hand.

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>>sonja trauss: I have a

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question.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: go

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ahead sonja.

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>>sonja trauss: hi. So first

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of all, is there still a

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work-from-home mandate in

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planned bay area? And if there

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is, how do you imagine

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implementing that? Because it

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seems like impossible. You

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know, like, you would have to

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track the location of workers

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all over -- like, that's

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ridiculous, logistically, and

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also for civil liberties.

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>dave vautin: thanks for that

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question. In october we

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presented some parametering to

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the joint mtc planning and abag

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administrative committees that

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defined kind of guidelines for

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any alternatives to the

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telecommuting strategy. We do

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anticipate bringing forward an

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alternative to that strategy at

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the november 20th commission

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meeting, next week, is there

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will be an opportunity for

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further discussion on whether

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that strategy should move

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forward or be replaced with an

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alternative approach.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: are

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there any other questions?

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any hands raised? I'm not

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seeing any hands raised.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: okay.

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sonja, you're finished. Okay.

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then we'll go to public comment.

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there are any members of the

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public who wish to comment on

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this report?

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>>marilyn ezzy ashcraft: I

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believe we have a member with

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his hand up. Mr. Savay.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: here

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is al. Sorry about that.

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>>al savay: I had a question

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with the significant changes

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that were forecasted when the

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plan was put together, do you

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have capability to shift in

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terms of priorities and

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implementation based on

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significant changes like the

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pandemic response that could

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ripple through the economy in

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the bay area for years to come?

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>dave vautin: that's a great

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question. First of all I'll

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note the blueprint phase we have

641
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been working on since last fall

642
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we incorporated a number of

643
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different changes to it, because

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we made refinements to it during

645
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the course of the pandemic. So

646
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a lot of the strategies were

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updated or revised this summer.

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again, taking into account what

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we know, and also what we don't

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know about the region's future,

651
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but we were able to incorporate

652
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some of those learnings into the

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final blueprint. Furthermore,

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the regional growth forecast was

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updated to include covid impacts

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and recession impacts into the

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region's long-term trajectory.

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and we worked closely with the

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state to incorporate a faster

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adoption rate of telecommuting

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than the previous provision. So

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there has been specific actions.

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at the same time the plan

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implements what key changes for

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priorities in the next five

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years defined by cove and after

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effects of it including a weaker

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economy. So as we think about

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prioritizing which strategies

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need to come first, I think that

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lens along with our equity lens

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along with some of our other key

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areas to look at, that lens is

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going to be really important.

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and so, you know, we'll be

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encouraging stakeholders as we

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think about what is essential

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00:24:16,168 --> 00:24:18,568
for 2021, 2022, et cetera, to

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keep that in mind.

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>>al savay: have you, with that

681
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
response, you have talked to

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experts in terms of forecasting

683
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and futures and things like

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that, you're asking about what

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stakeholders should we talk to.

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have you talked to some experts?

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or academics? Or others in

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terms of looking toward the

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future in terms of how it

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relates to the implementation?

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>dave vautin: well we're just

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at the -- we just kicked off the

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implementation plan phase this

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month but I think your

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suggestion is well take taken

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that we can look to engage folks

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in academia and other in this

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process.

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>>speaker: thank you.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: I know

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there are members of the public

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who wish to speak but I'm not

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seeing any members of the

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committee wishing to speak.

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mr. Castro call on our first

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speaker.

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>>clerk of the board: first

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speaker is samuel renos, please

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unmute yourself and go ahead.

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>>speaker: good afternoon

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committee members and staff,

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2020 survey of the bay area

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local government asked to

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identify major barriers to

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producing all the housing the

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region needs shortages of

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skilled housing construction

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workers was one of the top

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responses. The northern

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california carpenters doesn't

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expect abag and the mtc to

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design expanded training

723
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programs, but the bay area 2050

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implementation plan can help

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guide jurisdictions towards best

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practices for local government

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agencies, and private developers

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creating incentives for

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developers and contractors to

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make concrete commitments to

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recruiting, training, and

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retaining skilled construction

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workers. The northern

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california carpenters stand

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ready to assist staff in

736
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developing a work plan for

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identifying and proliferating

738
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those best practices. Thank

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you.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

741
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you. Is there anyone else who

742
00:26:30,835 --> 00:26:32,000
wishes to address us?

743
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,752
>>clerk of the board: yes. We

744
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have one speaker with the

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initials l. W. Go ahead.

746
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>>speaker: hi. Can you hear

747
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000
me?

748
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,752
>>clerk of the board: yes, sir.

749
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>>speaker: hi. My name is

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lakinder, and I'm looking at

751
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your strategy document. I'm

752
00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:48,840
sorry -- I haven't looked at

753
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your past documents, but if the

754
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idea was to present a

755
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comprehensive background as to

756
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how you came to this strategy,

757
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then, I am not so well informed.

758
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and I was wondering, just having

759
00:27:03,418 --> 00:27:05,835
a couple of slides is okay, but

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00:27:05,835 --> 00:27:07,960
having a lot more detailed input

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00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,501
as to what the member cities

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have, while participating, given

763
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you as input, that would be good

764
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to see. But I don't have any

765
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idea what's the background here.

766
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
so thank you.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

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you.

769
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,376
is there anyone else in the

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public who wishes to address us?

771
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:27,418
do you see any?

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00:27:27,418 --> 00:27:28,430
>>clerk of the board: there is

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one more person. Raleigh

774
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graeber.

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00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair:

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ms. Graeber.

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>>clerk of the board: raleigh

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graber, please unmute yourself.

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she does not seem to be --

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>>speaker: can you hear me?

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00:27:51,418 --> 00:27:52,430
>>clerk of the board: okay. Go

782
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:53,000
ahead.

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00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,293
>>speaker: can you hear me?

784
00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:55,100
>>karen mitchoff, chair: yes.

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>>clerk of the board: go ahead.

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>>speaker: okay. Thank you.

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I'm going to read off a letter

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to you from an edward singh who

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also living in alameda. I'm

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from alameda.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair:

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ms. Graber I'm going to be

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limiting public comment to three

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minutes. Is the letter longer

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than three minutes?

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>>speaker: no. It's one

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type-written page. Dear

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regional planning committee

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chairperson mitchoff and

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committee members -- okay. One

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concern that arose during

802
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discussions of the recently

803
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defeated measure z in alameda, z

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would have removed voter

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approved development

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restrictions in alameda and it

807
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was defeated, is susceptibility

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of alameda to natural hazards,

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earthquake liquefaction, sea

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level rise and tsunami surges?

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although these hazards exist for

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many cities adjacent to san

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francisco bay, alameda is unique

814
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and the egress from alameda

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should such natural hazards

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occur an emergency response

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00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:14,501
access to the city, to the

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island is limited to aging

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bridges and tunnels, which are

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already overwhelmed during

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normal rush hour conditions.

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adding rhna 4900 housing units

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from the period from 2023 to

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2030 would require building

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another 13,000 approximate

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market rate units in order to

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achieve the rhna target for

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affordable homes.

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this would increase the total

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number of housing units in

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alameda by over 30 percent,

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approximately. Burdening an

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already stressed infrastructure

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as well as exasperating ingress

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on to an egress off of the

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island during emergency

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conditions. Such concerns

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should be reflected in the

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process of determining rhna

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requirements

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>>clerk of the board: your time

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is up.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair:

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ms. Graber, you're addressing us

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on an item that we haven't

846
00:30:15,752 --> 00:30:17,210
gotten to yet. Can you wrap up

847
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:19,210
your comment, please?

848
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:26,643
ms. Graber, you're back on mute

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>>speaker: can you hear me now?

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: yes.

851
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you're addressing us on an item,

852
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this is not the item where you

853
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:37,585
should be addressing it. Can

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00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:39,000
you wrap up your comment,

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please?

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00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:41,627
>>speaker: I'll finish it when

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you come to the item then. I'll

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finish it when you come to the

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proper item. Thank you.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

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you. Is there anyone who wishes

862
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to address us on this item.

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>>clerk of the board: no other

864
00:30:50,335 --> 00:30:52,430
hands raised from the attendees

865
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:53,126
and no written comments received

866
00:30:53,126 --> 00:30:54,585
on this item.

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>>karen mitchoff, chair: okay.

868
00:30:55,877 --> 00:31:00,770
then we are moving on to item

869
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:05,752
6a, and I have -- my phone keeps

870
00:31:05,752 --> 00:31:08,840
going out here. Okay. We will

871
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,000
now conduct the public hearing

872
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,251
-- this is item 6a public

873
00:31:12,251 --> 00:31:13,835
hearing on regional housing

874
00:31:13,835 --> 00:31:15,840
needs allocation proposed

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,585
methodology.

876
00:31:16,585 --> 00:31:18,251
we will now conduct the public

877
00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:19,960
hearing on the regional housing

878
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
needs allocation proposed

879
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,400
methodology. Is the court

880
00:31:24,627 --> 00:31:26,627
reporter ready?

881
00:31:29,418 --> 00:31:30,430
the court reporter: I am here

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00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:30,752
and ready. Thank you.

883
00:31:30,752 --> 00:31:32,335
>>karen mitchoff, chair:

884
00:31:32,335 --> 00:31:33,460
wonderful thank you. The public

885
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,000
hearing is now open. Good

886
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,400
afternoon I'm karen mitchoff

887
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,840
chair of the regional planning

888
00:31:42,627 --> 00:31:45,000
committee also known as rpc I

889
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,877
would like to take up agenda

890
00:31:46,877 --> 00:31:49,668
item 6a proposed hearing on the

891
00:31:49,668 --> 00:31:50,835
proposed methodology for rhna

892
00:31:50,835 --> 00:31:52,460
the hearing is now open and as

893
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you heard a certified short hand

894
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reporter is transcribing these

895
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,840
proceedings. If you wish to

896
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,543
testify please use the raised

897
00:32:01,543 --> 00:32:04,460
hand feature or dial star nine

898
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:06,418
and please wait to be called

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upon. We ask that each speaker

900
00:32:08,585 --> 00:32:11,210
be brief, concise and keep

901
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:13,376
comments to no more than three

902
00:32:13,376 --> 00:32:16,100
minutes if a previous speaker

903
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,840
has addressed your concern we

904
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,919
ask that you just say you

905
00:32:20,919 --> 00:32:22,168
reiterate those comments rather

906
00:32:22,168 --> 00:32:24,168
err than repeating them. By way

907
00:32:24,168 --> 00:32:26,960
of background abag convened an

908
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,960
ad-hoc housing methodology

909
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,251
committee also known as hmc,

910
00:32:30,251 --> 00:32:32,000
over the last year, to advise

911
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,543
staff on the methodology for

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00:32:33,543 --> 00:32:34,543
allocating a share of the

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00:32:34,543 --> 00:32:37,000
region's total housing need to

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00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,168
every local government in the

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00:32:38,168 --> 00:32:39,840
bay area.

916
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,418
I think this answers the

917
00:32:40,418 --> 00:32:42,000
question from a previous public

918
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,752
speaker about whether the cities

919
00:32:43,752 --> 00:32:45,430
were involved.

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00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,430
on october 15th the abag

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00:32:50,543 --> 00:32:52,943
regional executive board offered

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00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,877
to release a proposed

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00:32:54,877 --> 00:32:56,000
methodology for public comment.

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00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,100
a report on the proposed

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00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:00,251
methodology was posted on the

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00:33:00,251 --> 00:33:03,251
abag web site beginning on

927
00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:05,000
october 24th, 2020. Also in

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00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,960
late october, legal notices were

929
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,293
published in multiple languages

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00:33:09,293 --> 00:33:11,960
in newspapers in each of the

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nine counties of the bay area

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announcing the opening of a

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third day public comment period

934
00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:19,270
for written comment ending

935
00:33:19,877 --> 00:33:21,376
november 27th. And identifying

936
00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:23,000
today's public hearing to

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receive oral testimony and

938
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written comments about the

939
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960
proposed rhna methodology.

940
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,919
today's hearing fulfills the

941
00:33:30,919 --> 00:33:32,543
requirement identified in

942
00:33:32,543 --> 00:33:34,100
california government code

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00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,100
section 65584.04(d) written

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comments can continue to be

945
00:33:45,335 --> 00:33:47,735
submitted to rhna at

946
00:33:48,835 --> 00:33:51,585
bayareametro.gov or by us mail

947
00:33:51,585 --> 00:33:53,793
until the november 27th

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deadline.

949
00:33:54,585 --> 00:33:57,840
I'm going to call on gillian

950
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,501
adams who will give us a report

951
00:33:58,501 --> 00:34:01,000
on this. Ms. Adams, would you

952
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,400
please give your report?

953
00:34:03,668 --> 00:34:04,210
>>gillian adams: thank you

954
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,752
madam chair. My name is gillian

955
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adams, project manager for the

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00:34:08,251 --> 00:34:09,627
regional housing needs

957
00:34:09,627 --> 00:34:11,000
allocation or rhna process.

958
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,543
I'll be providing you with a

959
00:34:12,543 --> 00:34:14,627
brief overview of the proposed

960
00:34:14,627 --> 00:34:16,335
rhna methodology approved by the

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abag executive board. Pull up

962
00:34:18,668 --> 00:34:20,668
the slides, please.

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00:34:23,251 --> 00:34:25,651
okay. Next slide please.

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so rhna is the state-mandated

965
00:34:30,251 --> 00:34:31,585
process to identify the share of

966
00:34:31,585 --> 00:34:33,752
the region's housing need that

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00:34:33,752 --> 00:34:35,840
each local jurisdiction must

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plan for over an eight year

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00:34:36,835 --> 00:34:38,335
period. As part of this

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00:34:38,335 --> 00:34:40,735
process, in june 2020, the

971
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,000
california department of housing

972
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
and community development

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00:34:45,335 --> 00:34:46,710
determined that bay area

974
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,110
communities must plan for

975
00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:52,430
441,176 housing units from 2023

976
00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:55,100
to 2031. By law, abag is

977
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,251
required to develop a

978
00:34:56,251 --> 00:34:58,651
methodology or formula that

979
00:34:59,126 --> 00:35:01,376
divides the entire housing need

980
00:35:01,376 --> 00:35:03,000
from the state among each city,

981
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,501
town and county in the region.

982
00:35:05,501 --> 00:35:06,835
each local government will

983
00:35:06,835 --> 00:35:09,376
receive a total number of units

984
00:35:09,376 --> 00:35:12,000
by income category from abag and

985
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
then must update the housing

986
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
element of its general plan to

987
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,919
show how it can accommodate its

988
00:35:17,919 --> 00:35:20,000
rhna allocation. It is in the

989
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
housing that local jurisdictions

990
00:35:22,501 --> 00:35:23,835
choose the specific locations

991
00:35:23,835 --> 00:35:25,000
within their communities that

992
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
will be zoned for housing. As

993
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
noted earlier, abag convened an

994
00:35:30,501 --> 00:35:32,168
ad-hoc housing methodology

995
00:35:32,168 --> 00:35:34,627
committee or hmc to advise staff

996
00:35:34,627 --> 00:35:36,000
on the rhna methodology. The

997
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
hmc is made up of local elected

998
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,335
officials and staff representing

999
00:35:41,335 --> 00:35:42,668
jurisdictions in every bay area

1000
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:44,710
county and stakeholders from

1001
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:46,501
multiple sectors to facilitate

1002
00:35:46,501 --> 00:35:48,100
sharing of different

1003
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,401
perspectives. Hmc met 12 times

1004
00:35:50,627 --> 00:35:52,627
from october 2019 to

1005
00:35:54,293 --> 00:35:55,960
december 2020 and engaged in

1006
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,543
robust discussions about how to

1007
00:35:57,543 --> 00:35:58,501
develop a methodology that

1008
00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:00,627
advances the five objectives

1009
00:36:00,627 --> 00:36:02,418
required by housing element law

1010
00:36:02,418 --> 00:36:04,000
and is consistent with the

1011
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960
forecasted development pattern

1012
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,376
for planned bay area 2050 as

1013
00:36:07,376 --> 00:36:08,710
required by law.

1014
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:10,627
the five statutory objectives

1015
00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:12,668
for rhna related to increasing

1016
00:36:12,668 --> 00:36:14,335
housing supply and mix of

1017
00:36:14,335 --> 00:36:16,376
housing types, promoting infill

1018
00:36:16,376 --> 00:36:18,430
development and socio-economic

1019
00:36:18,430 --> 00:36:20,443
equity, promoting an improved

1020
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840
inter-regional jobs/housing

1021
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,460
relationship balancing

1022
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:27,000
disproportionate household

1023
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000
income distributions and

1024
00:36:30,501 --> 00:36:32,100
affirmatively furthering fair

1025
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,100
housing. Throughout the

1026
00:36:34,430 --> 00:36:35,585
methodology development process

1027
00:36:35,585 --> 00:36:38,585
both staff and hmc's decisions

1028
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,585
were guided by evaluation

1029
00:36:40,585 --> 00:36:42,126
metrics that access how

1030
00:36:42,126 --> 00:36:44,126
successful different methodology

1031
00:36:44,168 --> 00:36:46,251
options chief the statutory

1032
00:36:46,251 --> 00:36:47,251
objectives.

1033
00:36:47,251 --> 00:36:49,651
these metric were based

1034
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,627
primarily on how state hcd

1035
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:54,000
evaluated other region's

1036
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,210
methodologies. Results of the

1037
00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:57,840
evaluation demonstrate that the

1038
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,460
proposed rhna methodology

1039
00:36:58,460 --> 00:37:00,860
advances the statutory rhna

1040
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
objectives and is consistent

1041
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
with planned bay area 2050. On

1042
00:37:05,251 --> 00:37:07,418
october 15th the abag executive

1043
00:37:07,418 --> 00:37:08,293
board voted to release the

1044
00:37:08,293 --> 00:37:09,668
proposed methodology for public

1045
00:37:09,668 --> 00:37:11,100
comment.

1046
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,710
abag will be accepting written

1047
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:15,110
comments until noon on

1048
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,710
november 27th. Next slide

1049
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:20,335
please

1050
00:37:20,335 --> 00:37:22,210
there are two primary components

1051
00:37:22,210 --> 00:37:23,501
of the proposed rhna

1052
00:37:23,501 --> 00:37:25,627
methodology. The first is the

1053
00:37:25,627 --> 00:37:27,000
baseline allocation, and the

1054
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000
second is factors and weights.

1055
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,585
the baseline allocation is used

1056
00:37:31,585 --> 00:37:33,585
to assign each jurisdiction a

1057
00:37:33,585 --> 00:37:35,000
beginning share of the region's

1058
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,418
housing needs.

1059
00:37:36,418 --> 00:37:38,818
the proposed rhna methodology

1060
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
uses a jurisdiction's share of

1061
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,543
the forecasted number of total

1062
00:37:42,543 --> 00:37:45,000
household in the year 2050 from

1063
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,400
the planned bay area 2050

1064
00:37:50,627 --> 00:37:52,126
blueprint as the baseline

1065
00:37:52,126 --> 00:37:54,526
allocation hmc considered five

1066
00:37:54,668 --> 00:37:56,418
baselines for the allocation

1067
00:37:56,418 --> 00:37:58,335
including expected household

1068
00:37:58,335 --> 00:38:00,735
growth and households using 2050

1069
00:38:04,251 --> 00:38:06,376
as the baseline capturing the

1070
00:38:06,376 --> 00:38:08,000
benefits of using planned bay

1071
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,840
area 2050 blueprint in the

1072
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,335
methodology and because total

1073
00:38:11,335 --> 00:38:14,000
household in 2050 is the sum of

1074
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,543
existing households plus

1075
00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:17,710
expected growth it provides a

1076
00:38:17,710 --> 00:38:20,000
compromise between baselines on

1077
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,710
current number of household in a

1078
00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:23,710
jurisdiction and baseline based

1079
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:26,000
solely on forecasted housing

1080
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
growth in the blueprint. Second

1081
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
forecast of the methodology was

1082
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,752
selecting factors and weights

1083
00:38:31,752 --> 00:38:33,418
that best compliment the

1084
00:38:33,418 --> 00:38:34,919
baseline allocation. Factors

1085
00:38:34,919 --> 00:38:37,460
and weights adjust a baseline

1086
00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:39,430
allocation up or down. The

1087
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:40,100
proposed methodology includes

1088
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,710
one set of factors and weights

1089
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:46,310
for allocating very low and low

1090
00:38:46,460 --> 00:38:48,793
income units and separate set

1091
00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:51,793
for above and moderate units.

1092
00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:56,293
this allocates for control over

1093
00:38:56,293 --> 00:38:58,693
a particular income category.

1094
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,100
allocation to jurisdictions are

1095
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,251
added together to determine each

1096
00:39:04,251 --> 00:39:05,668
jurisdiction's total allocation

1097
00:39:05,668 --> 00:39:07,877
the table at the bottom of the

1098
00:39:07,877 --> 00:39:10,710
slide shows factors and weights

1099
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:13,000
for the methodology each

1100
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,376
represents data related to the

1101
00:39:15,376 --> 00:39:17,126
methodology priorities access to

1102
00:39:17,126 --> 00:39:18,293
high opportunity areas and

1103
00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:19,752
proximity to jobs. Access to

1104
00:39:19,752 --> 00:39:21,251
high opportunity areas factor is

1105
00:39:21,251 --> 00:39:23,585
based on the jurisdictions with

1106
00:39:23,585 --> 00:39:25,126
the higher percentage of

1107
00:39:25,126 --> 00:39:26,627
households living in areas

1108
00:39:26,627 --> 00:39:28,000
designated high resource or

1109
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,835
highest resource on the

1110
00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:30,460
opportunity map developed by the

1111
00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:32,860
state. The state evaluated

1112
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
census tracts using index of 21

1113
00:39:36,126 --> 00:39:37,668
different indicators related to

1114
00:39:37,668 --> 00:39:39,668
economic, educational, and

1115
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
health outcomes. Job proximate

1116
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,251
factors identify the number of

1117
00:39:46,251 --> 00:39:48,376
jobs that can be accessed from a

1118
00:39:48,376 --> 00:39:50,501
jurisdiction by a 30 minute auto

1119
00:39:50,501 --> 00:39:52,901
commute or 45 minute transit

1120
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,585
commute. Factors on

1121
00:39:54,585 --> 00:39:56,000
jurisdiction's allocation depend

1122
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,600
on the scores factor relative to

1123
00:39:59,793 --> 00:40:01,627
other jurisdictions within the

1124
00:40:01,627 --> 00:40:03,430
region. Above average score on

1125
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:06,430
a factor would get upwards

1126
00:40:06,126 --> 00:40:07,919
adjustment whereas a city below

1127
00:40:07,919 --> 00:40:10,000
average factor would get

1128
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,251
downwards adjustment relative to

1129
00:40:12,251 --> 00:40:13,793
baseline allocation

1130
00:40:13,793 --> 00:40:14,877
representatives on the table

1131
00:40:14,877 --> 00:40:17,840
show weight to each factor

1132
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,000
selected to the different income

1133
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,877
groups weight assigned to each

1134
00:40:20,877 --> 00:40:22,251
factor represent the factor

1135
00:40:22,251 --> 00:40:23,501
importance in the overall

1136
00:40:23,501 --> 00:40:24,752
allocation as the weight

1137
00:40:24,752 --> 00:40:25,627
determines the share of the

1138
00:40:25,627 --> 00:40:27,460
region's housing need that will

1139
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:29,126
be assigned by that particular

1140
00:40:29,126 --> 00:40:31,526
factor. Next slide please.

1141
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,585
as mentioned earlier the

1142
00:40:35,585 --> 00:40:37,985
proposed rhna methodology uses

1143
00:40:38,752 --> 00:40:40,627
2050 households from the planned

1144
00:40:40,627 --> 00:40:42,251
bay area 2050 blueprint as the

1145
00:40:42,251 --> 00:40:44,840
baseline allocation this slide

1146
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,668
reviews benefits of using

1147
00:40:45,668 --> 00:40:47,000
planned bay area as part of the

1148
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
rhna methodology. Importantly,

1149
00:40:49,168 --> 00:40:50,293
incorporating planned bay area

1150
00:40:50,293 --> 00:40:52,693
2050 into the rhna methodology

1151
00:40:52,919 --> 00:40:53,668
communicates to our local

1152
00:40:53,668 --> 00:40:55,668
government partners and other

1153
00:40:55,668 --> 00:40:57,100
stakeholders that we're moving

1154
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,000
toward a unified vision for the

1155
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,543
bay area's future. Including

1156
00:41:00,543 --> 00:41:01,627
the blueprint in the

1157
00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:04,270
methodology, helps ensure equity

1158
00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:10,293
and sustainability outcomes

1159
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,293
identified in planned bay area

1160
00:41:12,293 --> 00:41:13,919
2050 particularly those related

1161
00:41:13,919 --> 00:41:15,210
to greenhouse gas emissions

1162
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:16,752
reductions the growth

1163
00:41:16,752 --> 00:41:17,585
geographies identified in the

1164
00:41:17,585 --> 00:41:19,585
blueprint priority housing

1165
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:21,000
development in areas near

1166
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,376
transit locations close to

1167
00:41:22,376 --> 00:41:24,168
existing job centers and high

1168
00:41:24,168 --> 00:41:25,627
resource areas.

1169
00:41:25,627 --> 00:41:27,840
using the blueprint in the rhna

1170
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,684
methodology -- you can go back

1171
00:41:31,752 --> 00:41:34,627
to slide number four, please?

1172
00:41:34,627 --> 00:41:35,919
thank you.

1173
00:41:35,919 --> 00:41:37,376
using the blueprint in the rhna

1174
00:41:37,376 --> 00:41:39,210
methodology also addresses

1175
00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:40,793
concerns about natural hazards

1176
00:41:40,793 --> 00:41:42,460
as the growth geographies in the

1177
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:44,860
blueprint exclude areas with

1178
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:46,376
high wildfire risk and areas

1179
00:41:46,376 --> 00:41:48,418
outside urban growth boundaries.

1180
00:41:48,418 --> 00:41:49,835
local governments can also

1181
00:41:49,835 --> 00:41:51,100
consider the most appropriate

1182
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,460
places for planning for housing

1183
00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:54,627
in areas with less risk from

1184
00:41:54,627 --> 00:41:56,100
wildfires and other hazards when

1185
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,627
they update the housing elements

1186
00:41:57,627 --> 00:42:00,000
of their general plans.

1187
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,840
using the year 2050 households

1188
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,501
baseline result in an allocation

1189
00:42:03,501 --> 00:42:05,901
that reflects the blueprint's

1190
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,919
focused growth pattern while the

1191
00:42:07,919 --> 00:42:09,210
allocation factors in the rhna

1192
00:42:09,210 --> 00:42:10,501
methodology address this

1193
00:42:10,501 --> 00:42:11,501
baseline to meet the fair

1194
00:42:11,501 --> 00:42:13,901
housing and equity goals

1195
00:42:14,210 --> 00:42:15,919
mandated by state law. As a

1196
00:42:15,919 --> 00:42:17,168
result the proposed methodology

1197
00:42:17,168 --> 00:42:20,000
will enable the region to

1198
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,293
accelerate toward a more

1199
00:42:21,293 --> 00:42:23,000
equitable and less segregated

1200
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
land use pattern in the near

1201
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
term while building toward broad

1202
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,210
range of pattern movement in the

1203
00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:31,376
long-term. It's important to

1204
00:42:31,376 --> 00:42:34,000
note in september abag executive

1205
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,585
board and mtc commission adopted

1206
00:42:36,585 --> 00:42:39,000
a changes to inputs into the

1207
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,376
planned bay area 2050 blueprint

1208
00:42:40,376 --> 00:42:42,000
since the blueprint is part of

1209
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000
the rhna methodology the final

1210
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000
blueprint growth pattern which

1211
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,877
is slated for release in

1212
00:42:46,877 --> 00:42:49,277
december 2020 will affect the

1213
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,401
rhna allocations. Next slide

1214
00:42:52,543 --> 00:42:54,126
please this graphic provides an

1215
00:42:54,126 --> 00:42:56,000
overview of the proposed rhna

1216
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,460
methodology. At the top you can

1217
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,000
see the regional housing need

1218
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
determination of 441,176 units

1219
00:43:03,418 --> 00:43:06,418
by income category. State hcd

1220
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,501
identified for the area. In

1221
00:43:10,501 --> 00:43:12,293
stage one you can see low and

1222
00:43:12,293 --> 00:43:14,000
low income units have been

1223
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,460
grouped together and above mood

1224
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:19,460
rat grouped together step two

1225
00:43:19,668 --> 00:43:21,418
shows factors and weights

1226
00:43:21,418 --> 00:43:23,840
proposed methodology is one

1227
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,000
group of factors to allocate

1228
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
very low and low income units

1229
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
while another set of factors and

1230
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,400
weights allocates moderate and

1231
00:43:31,501 --> 00:43:33,752
above moderate income units.

1232
00:43:33,752 --> 00:43:35,710
and the factors and weights and

1233
00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:37,000
resulting number of units

1234
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,960
allocated by each factor three

1235
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
factors for allocating low

1236
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
income units are 70 percent

1237
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,710
access to high opportunity areas

1238
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:46,710
allocating 126,000 units 15

1239
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000
percent jobs prom auto and 15

1240
00:43:53,793 --> 00:43:56,193
percent jobs programs transit

1241
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400
factors to allocate higher

1242
00:44:01,752 --> 00:44:03,376
income units are 40 percent

1243
00:44:03,376 --> 00:44:05,418
access to high opportunity areas

1244
00:44:05,418 --> 00:44:08,418
allocating -- and one hadn't

1245
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,793
60,000 units. Opportunities to

1246
00:44:15,793 --> 00:44:18,000
high opportunity areas factor

1247
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,251
allocates 52 percent of the

1248
00:44:20,251 --> 00:44:23,851
region's rhna. In step three of

1249
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,877
the methodology each

1250
00:44:26,877 --> 00:44:28,627
jurisdiction's baseline

1251
00:44:28,627 --> 00:44:30,877
allocation is adjusted based on

1252
00:44:30,877 --> 00:44:33,585
how it scores on different

1253
00:44:33,585 --> 00:44:35,430
allocation factors. If a

1254
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:36,752
jurisdiction has more access to

1255
00:44:36,752 --> 00:44:37,793
opportunity or better job

1256
00:44:37,793 --> 00:44:40,460
proximity relative to the region

1257
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:41,752
this allocation is adjusted

1258
00:44:41,752 --> 00:44:43,752
upward otherwise allocation

1259
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,360
adjusted downward. The units

1260
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,000
the jurisdictions receive with

1261
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
different incomes added together

1262
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,400
to determine a jurisdiction's

1263
00:44:52,752 --> 00:44:54,335
total rhna allocation. Next

1264
00:44:54,335 --> 00:44:56,752
slide please. As note the

1265
00:44:56,752 --> 00:44:58,126
earlier, the potential

1266
00:44:58,126 --> 00:44:59,251
allocation shown in these

1267
00:44:59,251 --> 00:45:01,100
materials are illustrative at

1268
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,430
this point, there are many more

1269
00:45:02,430 --> 00:45:03,585
steps in the rhna process before

1270
00:45:03,585 --> 00:45:05,710
a jurisdiction will receive the

1271
00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:08,710
final allocation that needs to

1272
00:45:09,793 --> 00:45:10,418
be incorporated into the housing

1273
00:45:10,418 --> 00:45:13,000
updates. The map on the left

1274
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,627
demonstrates the potential

1275
00:45:14,627 --> 00:45:16,835
growth rate each jurisdiction

1276
00:45:16,835 --> 00:45:18,668
would experience as a total

1277
00:45:18,668 --> 00:45:19,835
allocation from the proposed

1278
00:45:19,835 --> 00:45:21,210
methodology. This growth is

1279
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:22,168
relative to the jurisdiction's

1280
00:45:22,168 --> 00:45:24,568
number of household in 2019.

1281
00:45:24,627 --> 00:45:26,210
jurisdictions with the darkest

1282
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:28,000
brown experience the highest

1283
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,543
growth rates while those in the

1284
00:45:30,543 --> 00:45:32,126
light gray experience the lowest

1285
00:45:32,126 --> 00:45:34,000
growth rates in general the

1286
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,000
jurisdictions with the highest

1287
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,335
growth rates in the south bay

1288
00:45:36,335 --> 00:45:38,000
and along the peninsula and

1289
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
those with lowest growth rates

1290
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,335
are in sonoma napa and solano

1291
00:45:42,335 --> 00:45:43,877
counties and northern and

1292
00:45:43,877 --> 00:45:45,335
eastern portions of contra costa

1293
00:45:45,335 --> 00:45:46,877
county. It's important to note

1294
00:45:46,877 --> 00:45:48,168
that the region as a whole will

1295
00:45:48,168 --> 00:45:51,543
grow by 16 percent a result of

1296
00:45:51,543 --> 00:45:53,293
the regional housing need

1297
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:56,893
assigned by hcd for the 2023 to

1298
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400
2031 rhna cycle. Therefore any

1299
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
receiving less than the

1300
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,793
determined growth rate is being

1301
00:46:04,793 --> 00:46:07,000
asked to take on less than the

1302
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
average. Highlighted speakers

1303
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,251
to the 441,000 the bay area must

1304
00:46:13,251 --> 00:46:15,000
plan for and the statutory

1305
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,335
requirement of rhna that all

1306
00:46:16,335 --> 00:46:17,126
communities throughout the

1307
00:46:17,126 --> 00:46:19,960
region do their fair share

1308
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,430
toward meeting the region's

1309
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:22,501
housing needs. The map on the

1310
00:46:22,501 --> 00:46:24,627
right shows potential total

1311
00:46:24,627 --> 00:46:27,210
allocation of rhna units to bay

1312
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:29,335
area jurisdictions to the rhna

1313
00:46:29,335 --> 00:46:30,668
cycle as a result of the

1314
00:46:30,668 --> 00:46:32,126
proposed methodology.

1315
00:46:32,126 --> 00:46:34,100
jurisdictions with the darkest

1316
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,401
purple receive the largest

1317
00:46:36,501 --> 00:46:38,210
allocations light gray receive

1318
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:40,840
smaller allocations of rhna.

1319
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,840
distribution of rhna is fairly

1320
00:46:43,877 --> 00:46:46,277
concentrated with the largest

1321
00:46:46,293 --> 00:46:48,430
cities receiving most

1322
00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:49,501
allocations accounting for a

1323
00:46:49,501 --> 00:46:51,668
third of all rhna units

1324
00:46:51,668 --> 00:46:53,501
jurisdictions with the highest

1325
00:46:53,501 --> 00:46:54,418
allocations from the proposed

1326
00:46:54,418 --> 00:46:56,293
methodology would account for 72

1327
00:46:56,293 --> 00:46:58,501
percent of all rhna units used

1328
00:46:58,501 --> 00:47:00,919
of the three largest cities the

1329
00:47:00,919 --> 00:47:02,168
largest rhna this allocations

1330
00:47:02,168 --> 00:47:04,710
are found in silicon valley

1331
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:06,168
where there is proximity to

1332
00:47:06,168 --> 00:47:08,430
major employment centers and

1333
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:09,960
high access to opportunity.

1334
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960
next slide please

1335
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,251
this table shows how rhna units

1336
00:47:14,251 --> 00:47:15,877
are distributed by county. The

1337
00:47:15,877 --> 00:47:17,430
numbers in the first column

1338
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:18,877
represent the sum of the rhna

1339
00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:20,000
allocations for all of the

1340
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,793
jurisdictions in each county.

1341
00:47:21,793 --> 00:47:23,877
in a second column you can see

1342
00:47:23,877 --> 00:47:26,376
each county's share of rhna

1343
00:47:26,376 --> 00:47:27,585
units based on the proposed

1344
00:47:27,585 --> 00:47:29,000
methodology. You can compare

1345
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,919
how the share of rhna units for

1346
00:47:30,919 --> 00:47:33,168
each county compares to its

1347
00:47:33,168 --> 00:47:35,168
share of rhna unit in the last

1348
00:47:35,168 --> 00:47:37,168
cycle in the middle column share

1349
00:47:37,168 --> 00:47:38,877
of existing households and share

1350
00:47:38,877 --> 00:47:40,877
of existing jobs.

1351
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,430
san francisco and jurisdiction

1352
00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:44,919
in marin, san mateo, and santa

1353
00:47:44,919 --> 00:47:46,000
clara counties would receive a

1354
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,251
larger share of the region's

1355
00:47:47,251 --> 00:47:49,585
housing need than they did in

1356
00:47:49,585 --> 00:47:51,985
the 2015 to 2023 rhna cycle.

1357
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,000
jurisdiction in alameda, contra

1358
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,840
costa, and solano counties

1359
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,543
receive a smaller share of the

1360
00:47:57,543 --> 00:47:59,293
region's rhna from the proposed

1361
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,840
methodology than they did from

1362
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,835
the cycle five methodology.

1363
00:48:02,835 --> 00:48:03,960
while the share of the

1364
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,627
allocation to jurisdictions in

1365
00:48:05,627 --> 00:48:08,000
sonoma and napa counties remains

1366
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,335
unchanged.

1367
00:48:09,335 --> 00:48:12,000
when comparing the share of rhna

1368
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
units from the proposed

1369
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,251
methodology to the county's

1370
00:48:14,251 --> 00:48:15,919
share of existing households

1371
00:48:15,919 --> 00:48:17,000
only san francisco and

1372
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,501
jurisdictions in san mateo and

1373
00:48:18,501 --> 00:48:20,000
santa clara receive a larger

1374
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,919
share of the region's rhna

1375
00:48:21,919 --> 00:48:23,168
compared to their current share

1376
00:48:23,168 --> 00:48:25,126
of the region's households.

1377
00:48:25,126 --> 00:48:28,000
when looking at jobs only santa

1378
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,919
clara and san mateo counties are

1379
00:48:29,919 --> 00:48:31,585
being asked to tear on a share

1380
00:48:31,585 --> 00:48:33,251
of rhna units that is larger

1381
00:48:33,251 --> 00:48:34,793
than their share of existing

1382
00:48:34,793 --> 00:48:36,251
jobs. The allocations from the

1383
00:48:36,251 --> 00:48:38,335
proposed rhna methodology would

1384
00:48:38,335 --> 00:48:40,210
result in jurisdictions in santa

1385
00:48:40,210 --> 00:48:41,460
clara county receiving 33

1386
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:43,100
percent of the rhna compared to

1387
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:46,335
its share of existing jobs of 27

1388
00:48:46,335 --> 00:48:48,335
percent. Slide lied

1389
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,501
-- next slide please

1390
00:48:51,501 --> 00:48:52,793
looking at the next steps for

1391
00:48:52,793 --> 00:48:55,000
the rhna process. Abag is

1392
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,668
accepting written comments on

1393
00:48:56,668 --> 00:48:57,752
the proposed methodology until

1394
00:48:57,752 --> 00:49:01,352
noon on november 27th. And I

1395
00:49:01,418 --> 00:49:03,627
notice here there's a typo on

1396
00:49:03,627 --> 00:49:05,430
our slide it should say the

1397
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:06,210
public comment on proposed

1398
00:49:06,210 --> 00:49:09,210
methodology and draft ends on

1399
00:49:09,293 --> 00:49:10,710
november 27th. In december of

1400
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:12,418
2020 the planned bay area 2050

1401
00:49:12,418 --> 00:49:14,501
final blueprint data for the

1402
00:49:14,501 --> 00:49:16,335
2050 household baseline is

1403
00:49:16,335 --> 00:49:18,000
anticipated to become available.

1404
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600
in january of 2021, the rpc and

1405
00:49:21,627 --> 00:49:23,000
the executive board will weigh

1406
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,835
in on public feedback as well as

1407
00:49:24,835 --> 00:49:27,000
updates made to integrate the

1408
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,543
final blueprint data into the

1409
00:49:28,543 --> 00:49:30,251
draft rhna methodology.

1410
00:49:30,251 --> 00:49:32,100
once the abag executive board

1411
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,335
approves the draft rhna

1412
00:49:33,335 --> 00:49:34,793
methodology, it will be

1413
00:49:34,793 --> 00:49:37,418
submitted to state hcd for its

1414
00:49:37,418 --> 00:49:39,000
review. And that completes my

1415
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,418
presentation.

1416
00:49:40,418 --> 00:49:41,430
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

1417
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:42,000
you. And I appreciate you

1418
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000
noting the typo.

1419
00:49:44,335 --> 00:49:46,376
since this will be on our web

1420
00:49:46,376 --> 00:49:47,752
site. I would request that

1421
00:49:47,752 --> 00:49:49,668
someone go through and correct

1422
00:49:49,668 --> 00:49:52,668
that before it's posted again.

1423
00:49:54,585 --> 00:49:57,627
okay. We will now receive oral

1424
00:49:57,627 --> 00:50:00,000
-- pardon me. There are any

1425
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
comments by any members of our

1426
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,960
committee before we go to public

1427
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,960
testimony?

1428
00:50:09,168 --> 00:50:11,168
is there anyone?

1429
00:50:13,376 --> 00:50:14,585
>>julie pierce: yes. Sorry. I

1430
00:50:14,585 --> 00:50:16,126
couldn't get unmuted.

1431
00:50:16,126 --> 00:50:17,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: okay.

1432
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,126
go ahead.

1433
00:50:18,126 --> 00:50:19,000
>>julie pierce: yeah. I just

1434
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,376
want to make a brief comment.

1435
00:50:20,376 --> 00:50:22,919
and first I want to reiterate my

1436
00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:24,100
thanks to staff and all of the

1437
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,430
committee members for the

1438
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:27,430
housing methodology committee

1439
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,000
who spent the past year getting

1440
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,585
us this far. It has been a

1441
00:50:32,585 --> 00:50:36,185
monumental lift, but I have to

1442
00:50:37,668 --> 00:50:39,430
say I'm not happy with the

1443
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:41,000
results. And this is not a

1444
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,418
surprise to staff. I have said

1445
00:50:42,418 --> 00:50:44,293
this at meetings before. I

1446
00:50:44,293 --> 00:50:45,960
think we're going to have to

1447
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,000
agree to disagree. I'm afraid

1448
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,501
that none of the options that

1449
00:50:49,501 --> 00:50:51,543
remained on the table at the end

1450
00:50:51,543 --> 00:50:54,430
of the process really adhered to

1451
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:57,000
the stated goal to align with

1452
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
planned bay area 2050.

1453
00:50:59,501 --> 00:51:01,430
the greenhouse gas and vehicle

1454
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:03,840
miles traveled targets are going

1455
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,710
to be nearly impossible to

1456
00:51:05,710 --> 00:51:08,460
reach, no matter how many people

1457
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:10,460
we have telecommuting.

1458
00:51:11,418 --> 00:51:14,126
proximity to jobs by auto and

1459
00:51:14,126 --> 00:51:16,251
transit should be the heaviest

1460
00:51:16,251 --> 00:51:19,251
criteria for where now housing

1461
00:51:19,251 --> 00:51:20,793
should go. The quality of life

1462
00:51:20,793 --> 00:51:23,793
for our workers is severely

1463
00:51:23,877 --> 00:51:26,000
impacted by spending many hours

1464
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,835
a day commuting. Families and

1465
00:51:27,835 --> 00:51:30,168
communities both suffer when

1466
00:51:30,168 --> 00:51:32,168
residents cannot participate.

1467
00:51:32,627 --> 00:51:35,000
the proposed methodology that is

1468
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,840
before the public today, in this

1469
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,840
public hearing, has dramatically

1470
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,710
increased the housing

1471
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:42,000
allocations to the

1472
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,000
unincorporated areas of the

1473
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000
region, outside of urban growth

1474
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:50,251
boundaries that were approved by

1475
00:51:50,251 --> 00:51:51,251
voters and many of those areas

1476
00:51:51,251 --> 00:51:53,710
are also high hazard areas.

1477
00:51:53,710 --> 00:51:55,168
indeed much of the bay area is a

1478
00:51:55,168 --> 00:51:57,430
high hazard area at this point.

1479
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:59,251
it is also dramatically

1480
00:51:59,251 --> 00:52:00,877
increased the allocations to

1481
00:52:00,877 --> 00:52:02,210
small communities that are

1482
00:52:02,210 --> 00:52:04,610
further from high quality

1483
00:52:04,919 --> 00:52:06,501
transit and job centers rather

1484
00:52:06,501 --> 00:52:09,668
than a previous option that was

1485
00:52:09,668 --> 00:52:12,000
aligned closely with planned bay

1486
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
area 2050 growth.

1487
00:52:14,251 --> 00:52:16,668
during the process, I have

1488
00:52:16,668 --> 00:52:18,100
frequently heard the charge that

1489
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:19,752
some jurisdictions have not done

1490
00:52:19,752 --> 00:52:22,710
their fair share, and that they

1491
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:24,168
should be forced to carry their

1492
00:52:24,168 --> 00:52:26,335
weight and even punished with

1493
00:52:26,335 --> 00:52:28,000
higher numbers.

1494
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
in this current housing cycle,

1495
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,600
cycle five, every one of our 101

1496
00:52:34,835 --> 00:52:36,251
cities and nine counties have

1497
00:52:36,251 --> 00:52:38,651
hcd certified housing elements,

1498
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,877
which where they have identified

1499
00:52:41,877 --> 00:52:43,251
locations for the housing units

1500
00:52:43,251 --> 00:52:46,126
they have been allocated. Many,

1501
00:52:46,126 --> 00:52:48,376
many factors go into why those

1502
00:52:48,376 --> 00:52:50,000
units have not been built. We

1503
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
all know what those are.

1504
00:52:53,126 --> 00:52:54,919
I have further heard that for

1505
00:52:54,919 --> 00:52:57,710
equity reasons the new housing

1506
00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:59,501
needs to be placed heavily in

1507
00:52:59,501 --> 00:53:01,100
high opportunity areas. I don't

1508
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:02,919
disagree with that at all.

1509
00:53:02,919 --> 00:53:04,430
but since we're going to be

1510
00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:07,430
building thousands of new homes

1511
00:53:07,585 --> 00:53:11,100
in this plan and new homes near

1512
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,000
jobs, wouldn't it make sense for

1513
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,627
us to focus some of the

1514
00:53:15,627 --> 00:53:17,126
resources into making those

1515
00:53:17,126 --> 00:53:19,526
areas become high opportunity

1516
00:53:21,668 --> 00:53:23,835
areas? The existing high

1517
00:53:23,835 --> 00:53:25,460
opportunity areas do not have

1518
00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:28,126
the capacity to absorb all of

1519
00:53:28,126 --> 00:53:30,000
this growth.

1520
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,752
and a high opportunity area that

1521
00:53:31,752 --> 00:53:35,000
is a two-hour commute from jobs,

1522
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,668
does not produce a high-quality

1523
00:53:37,668 --> 00:53:40,251
life for our families. We heard

1524
00:53:40,251 --> 00:53:42,501
at abag that the estimated cost

1525
00:53:42,501 --> 00:53:45,501
of realizing planned bay area

1526
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
2050 is $1.4 trillion.

1527
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:53,430
at least part of that should go

1528
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:54,877
to improving opportunities close

1529
00:53:54,877 --> 00:53:57,000
to the jobs, not in the far

1530
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,960
flung suburbs from where those

1531
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,376
are located. If we genuinely

1532
00:54:01,376 --> 00:54:03,501
want to align rhna and future

1533
00:54:03,501 --> 00:54:05,793
growth with planned bay area

1534
00:54:05,793 --> 00:54:08,193
2050, to accomplish the goals

1535
00:54:08,501 --> 00:54:11,168
that it sets out, then we

1536
00:54:11,168 --> 00:54:13,376
propose focusing new housing in

1537
00:54:13,376 --> 00:54:15,251
the areas that are currently big

1538
00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:18,000
job centers, which are sorely

1539
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,400
lacking, in existing housing,

1540
00:54:21,919 --> 00:54:23,710
and are projected to grow their

1541
00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:25,793
jobs by over 40 percent over

1542
00:54:25,793 --> 00:54:27,251
what we have today. It only

1543
00:54:27,251 --> 00:54:29,651
makes sense that the

1544
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,335
commensurate housing plus more

1545
00:54:31,335 --> 00:54:34,000
to make up for the backlog be

1546
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,400
located near those jobs.

1547
00:54:36,919 --> 00:54:39,319
again, I sincerely appreciate

1548
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,501
all of the work staff have done,

1549
00:54:46,501 --> 00:54:49,501
that all the housing methodology

1550
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:52,919
committee has put in, this year

1551
00:54:52,919 --> 00:54:56,210
with covid-19 has made for a

1552
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:57,877
convoluted process. I just

1553
00:54:57,877 --> 00:54:59,460
think we should think twice

1554
00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:00,919
about this. We're not required

1555
00:55:00,919 --> 00:55:03,752
to put the houses near jobs, but

1556
00:55:03,752 --> 00:55:06,752
continuing on the same path

1557
00:55:06,877 --> 00:55:09,100
we've done for the past many

1558
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:10,501
years doesn't make sense. I

1559
00:55:10,501 --> 00:55:14,000
already voted no on this in abag

1560
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,200
and I would vote no again today.

1561
00:55:18,251 --> 00:55:19,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: are

1562
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,585
there any other members who wish

1563
00:55:20,585 --> 00:55:22,418
to make comment before we go to

1564
00:55:22,418 --> 00:55:24,418
public testimony?

1565
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
>>pat ecklund: pat. I had

1566
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,877
raised my hand, chair mitchoff.

1567
00:55:29,877 --> 00:55:30,460
>>karen mitchoff, chair: go

1568
00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:32,000
ahead pat.

1569
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,960
>>pat ecklund: I don't have a

1570
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,126
question. I was going to make a

1571
00:55:34,126 --> 00:55:37,000
comment. And I also agree with

1572
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,877
director pierce about the

1573
00:55:38,877 --> 00:55:41,877
methodology. I believe that the

1574
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:45,860
increase of the housing

1575
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,400
allocations to communities in

1576
00:55:48,460 --> 00:55:51,376
marin and other areas are

1577
00:55:51,376 --> 00:55:53,776
higher, actually allowed for

1578
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,752
than in our generally plans. So

1579
00:55:56,752 --> 00:55:59,168
right off the bat, abag is

1580
00:55:59,168 --> 00:56:01,568
putting those cities and

1581
00:56:01,919 --> 00:56:04,919
counties that have a higher

1582
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
allocation, that was in their

1583
00:56:09,501 --> 00:56:11,293
general plan, they're already

1584
00:56:11,293 --> 00:56:13,752
being setup for failure, in my

1585
00:56:13,752 --> 00:56:15,000
opinion. Also the increased

1586
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,460
housing allocations to areas

1587
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:20,600
that don't have the jobs in

1588
00:56:21,251 --> 00:56:22,668
short high quality transit which

1589
00:56:22,668 --> 00:56:25,668
means the 15-minute headways is

1590
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,430
going to increase greenhouse gas

1591
00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:30,443
emissions therefore taking us

1592
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,668
further way from the 19 percent

1593
00:56:33,668 --> 00:56:35,000
goal of greenhouse gas reduction

1594
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,460
in planned bay area. So we're

1595
00:56:36,460 --> 00:56:39,460
going to be exasperating what

1596
00:56:40,210 --> 00:56:41,960
we're trying to help. And then

1597
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,000
lastly, I think that this

1598
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,000
methodology does not respect the

1599
00:56:46,293 --> 00:56:49,293
high-fire hazards in all aspects

1600
00:56:51,585 --> 00:56:54,100
of sea level rise and effective

1601
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,000
climate change, which means

1602
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,960
increased water coming down our

1603
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,835
creeks and in our bays.

1604
00:56:59,835 --> 00:57:03,435
so I think that this methodology

1605
00:57:04,501 --> 00:57:06,100
should have been focusing on the

1606
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:09,100
housing growth, not on both

1607
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:14,000
existing as well as the housing

1608
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,752
growth. So if we were voting on

1609
00:57:15,752 --> 00:57:18,543
it today, I too would also be

1610
00:57:18,543 --> 00:57:20,168
voting no.

1611
00:57:20,168 --> 00:57:21,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

1612
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,793
you pat. Anyone else wishing to

1613
00:57:22,793 --> 00:57:24,501
make a comment before we go to

1614
00:57:24,501 --> 00:57:26,501
public comment?

1615
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,501
>>sonja trauss: yeah. I will.

1616
00:57:28,501 --> 00:57:29,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: sonja.

1617
00:57:29,877 --> 00:57:30,501
>>sonja trauss: there were only

1618
00:57:30,501 --> 00:57:32,919
a couple of letters ahead of

1619
00:57:32,919 --> 00:57:34,430
time, which I was sort of

1620
00:57:34,430 --> 00:57:36,000
surprised about. But I want to

1621
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,100
address a couple of themes in

1622
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,335
those. They seem to all be from

1623
00:57:40,335 --> 00:57:42,543
alameda for commenters coming up

1624
00:57:42,543 --> 00:57:45,919
too. So one of the things was

1625
00:57:45,919 --> 00:57:48,919
that alameda, the center of

1626
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
alameda that's sort of the least

1627
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,460
vulnerable to climate change

1628
00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:54,835
impacts is already very densely

1629
00:57:54,835 --> 00:57:57,000
built out, and I looked it up,

1630
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,251
and the absolute maximum density

1631
00:57:59,251 --> 00:58:01,335
anywhere in alameda is the

1632
00:58:01,335 --> 00:58:03,251
equivalent to 20 units per acre

1633
00:58:03,251 --> 00:58:05,501
and most of it is much less. So

1634
00:58:05,501 --> 00:58:07,000
I just want to remind everybody

1635
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,293
that this is a regional

1636
00:58:08,293 --> 00:58:09,501
conversation, and so you might

1637
00:58:09,501 --> 00:58:11,627
have some local idea about what

1638
00:58:11,627 --> 00:58:13,627
low density means in your town,

1639
00:58:13,627 --> 00:58:15,126
but remember who you're talking

1640
00:58:15,126 --> 00:58:18,726
to. You know? And so, just 20

1641
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,293
minutes per acre is not low

1642
00:58:22,293 --> 00:58:24,840
density. If you have the idea

1643
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,100
that's high density and you're

1644
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,100
saying it, you're broadcasting

1645
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:30,000
that you're not thinking at a

1646
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,460
regional and you don't really

1647
00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:33,919
know what you're talking about.

1648
00:58:33,919 --> 00:58:36,000
keep that in mind all these

1649
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,585
densities are relative at the

1650
00:58:37,585 --> 00:58:39,960
regional level high density are

1651
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,251
definitely possible. The other

1652
00:58:41,251 --> 00:58:43,000
thing too that came up in the

1653
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,400
previous two committee member's

1654
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,460
comments. Which is that the

1655
00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:50,251
towns don't have capacity to

1656
00:58:50,251 --> 00:58:52,251
accommodate higher density

1657
00:58:53,251 --> 00:58:55,000
development if that's the kai

1658
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,126
the town's job is to get that

1659
00:58:57,126 --> 00:58:59,210
capacity. In alameda they're

1660
00:58:59,210 --> 00:59:01,000
saying we only have two-ways off

1661
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,543
the island. They have been

1662
00:59:02,543 --> 00:59:05,100
saying that for decades. You

1663
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:06,919
have had decades to get another

1664
00:59:06,919 --> 00:59:09,126
way off the island, and you

1665
00:59:09,126 --> 00:59:10,960
should have done it years ago.

1666
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,126
if you feel like there is not a

1667
00:59:13,126 --> 00:59:15,960
lot of jobs in your town look at

1668
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,210
zoning. Are you zoning for

1669
00:59:17,210 --> 00:59:19,000
jobs. See what you can do to

1670
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,585
make it possible for people to

1671
00:59:20,585 --> 00:59:22,752
locate their businesses closer.

1672
00:59:22,752 --> 00:59:24,835
that's the name of the game. We

1673
00:59:24,835 --> 00:59:27,000
really all have to be online

1674
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,168
with getting more housing and if

1675
00:59:28,168 --> 00:59:29,835
you feel there are barriers and

1676
00:59:29,835 --> 00:59:32,210
you feel you don't have enough

1677
00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:34,610
transit, get more transit.

1678
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,627
that's the housing solution.

1679
00:59:36,627 --> 00:59:37,210
thanks.

1680
00:59:37,210 --> 00:59:38,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: are

1681
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,210
from any other comments by

1682
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:40,752
members of the committee?

1683
00:59:40,752 --> 00:59:43,152
marilyn, go ahead please.

1684
00:59:46,543 --> 00:59:47,335
>>marilyn ezzy ashcraft: thank

1685
00:59:47,335 --> 00:59:50,335
you chair mitchoff. There are

1686
00:59:51,501 --> 00:59:53,251
several of us with our hands

1687
00:59:53,251 --> 00:59:56,251
raised. Hello ms. Trauss. I

1688
00:59:56,668 --> 00:59:58,210
want people to understand that

1689
00:59:58,210 --> 01:00:01,000
the city council, last week,

1690
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,376
voted 4 to 1 to support

1691
01:00:03,376 --> 01:00:05,776
methodology 8a that this

1692
01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:11,293
committee has also supported.

1693
01:00:11,293 --> 01:00:13,460
said that, I certainly recognize

1694
01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:14,877
and support the first amendment

1695
01:00:14,877 --> 01:00:16,376
right of the resident in my city

1696
01:00:16,376 --> 01:00:19,976
to speak their mind. Like many

1697
01:00:20,126 --> 01:00:22,210
groups, we don't all speak with

1698
01:00:22,210 --> 01:00:24,376
one voice. It is true that on

1699
01:00:24,376 --> 01:00:27,543
the last -- on the november 3rd

1700
01:00:27,543 --> 01:00:31,000
ballot, we had a measure that I

1701
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,752
cochaired along with the vice

1702
01:00:33,752 --> 01:00:36,752
mayor to repeal to charter

1703
01:00:37,293 --> 01:00:39,293
amendments from 1973 and 1991,

1704
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,335
that ban the construction of

1705
01:00:43,335 --> 01:00:45,501
multi-family housing in the city

1706
01:00:45,501 --> 01:00:49,000
of alameda and limit density to

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,460
no more than one housing unit

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01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:53,251
per 2,000 square feet of land.

1709
01:00:53,251 --> 01:00:54,835
unfortunately those did not

1710
01:00:54,835 --> 01:00:57,000
succeed at the ballot box. So

1711
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,600
we're looking at our next steps

1712
01:01:01,710 --> 01:01:03,585
moving forward in this very

1713
01:01:03,585 --> 01:01:06,585
important issue. But I just

1714
01:01:07,752 --> 01:01:09,877
wanted you to know from an

1715
01:01:09,877 --> 01:01:11,000
official standpoint what the

1716
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,126
city council has said when we

1717
01:01:13,126 --> 01:01:14,376
voted last week on this

1718
01:01:14,376 --> 01:01:15,710
particular housing methodology

1719
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:18,000
that, again, this committee has

1720
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,919
approved in the past. So, thank

1721
01:01:19,919 --> 01:01:21,126
you.

1722
01:01:21,126 --> 01:01:22,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: and I

1723
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,460
just want to echo, there is a

1724
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:24,376
number of communities throughout

1725
01:01:24,376 --> 01:01:26,168
the bay area that have done as

1726
01:01:26,168 --> 01:01:30,335
much as they can, but they have

1727
01:01:30,335 --> 01:01:31,627
small footprints and not

1728
01:01:31,627 --> 01:01:35,227
everybody is able to do that.

1729
01:01:35,877 --> 01:01:36,501
>>marilyn ezzy ashcraft: that

1730
01:01:36,501 --> 01:01:37,877
isn't what I just said if you

1731
01:01:37,877 --> 01:01:39,793
are referring to my remarks that

1732
01:01:39,793 --> 01:01:41,585
isn't what I just said.

1733
01:01:41,585 --> 01:01:42,627
>>karen mitchoff, chair: I was

1734
01:01:42,627 --> 01:01:44,543
referring to what sonja just

1735
01:01:44,543 --> 01:01:46,000
said. I know you're referring

1736
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,627
to what's going on in alameda.

1737
01:01:48,627 --> 01:01:49,000
carlos romero?

1738
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,100
>>carlos romero, vice chair:

1739
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,376
madam chair, I have a few

1740
01:01:52,376 --> 01:01:53,960
comments to make, but I will

1741
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,000
save them until the end because

1742
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,460
it's important, we have all

1743
01:01:57,460 --> 01:01:59,210
weighed in the past on this

1744
01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:00,752
issue, and it's important to try

1745
01:02:00,752 --> 01:02:02,000
to get to the public, to the

1746
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,835
extent possible. So I will hold

1747
01:02:04,835 --> 01:02:06,752
off, if there is time at the end

1748
01:02:06,752 --> 01:02:08,168
I will certainly chime in.

1749
01:02:08,168 --> 01:02:09,710
thank you.

1750
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:10,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: neysa

1751
01:02:10,543 --> 01:02:11,710
fligor?

1752
01:02:11,710 --> 01:02:12,251
>>neysa fligor: thank you

1753
01:02:12,251 --> 01:02:15,251
chair. Neysa fligor mayor of

1754
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,168
los altos and santa clara

1755
01:02:17,168 --> 01:02:18,710
community association

1756
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:21,110
representative, on the housing

1757
01:02:21,293 --> 01:02:22,627
committee and regional planning

1758
01:02:22,627 --> 01:02:24,000
committee. First let me start

1759
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,877
by thanking abag leadership and

1760
01:02:25,877 --> 01:02:28,376
staff in all their hard work,

1761
01:02:28,376 --> 01:02:29,335
including the housing

1762
01:02:29,335 --> 01:02:30,627
methodology committee members.

1763
01:02:30,627 --> 01:02:33,376
as I have stated before, we

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01:02:33,376 --> 01:02:35,418
support a rhna methodology that

1765
01:02:35,418 --> 01:02:37,251
advances the rhna statutory

1766
01:02:37,251 --> 01:02:39,000
objectives, allows for an

1767
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,000
equitable distribution

1768
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,293
throughout the region, preserves

1769
01:02:42,293 --> 01:02:45,000
open space, performs well in

1770
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,000
reducing ghg emissions, allows

1771
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,335
for consistency between rhna and

1772
01:02:49,335 --> 01:02:51,418
planned bay area 2050, and is a

1773
01:02:51,418 --> 01:02:54,000
strong methodology to submit to

1774
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,835
the hcd for approval. The three

1775
01:02:56,835 --> 01:02:58,335
remaining methodology options

1776
01:02:58,335 --> 01:03:01,000
that were presented to hmc, as

1777
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,000
we have all seen and as staff

1778
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,000
has demonstrated repeatedly,

1779
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,000
option 8a performed the best in

1780
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,293
meeting these legal

1781
01:03:09,293 --> 01:03:10,376
requirements. It wasn't

1782
01:03:10,376 --> 01:03:12,000
perfect, as many have already

1783
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,585
said. But it was the best

1784
01:03:14,585 --> 01:03:15,960
compromise and it definitely

1785
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,360
meets the statutory objectives.

1786
01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:20,752
having said that, you know, as

1787
01:03:20,752 --> 01:03:23,840
the representative for the city

1788
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,000
in santa clara county, we would

1789
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,501
object to any option that

1790
01:03:27,501 --> 01:03:29,251
further allocates a larger share

1791
01:03:29,251 --> 01:03:31,100
to the santa clara county

1792
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,430
region. Santa clara county is

1793
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:35,835
one of only three jurisdictions

1794
01:03:35,835 --> 01:03:38,585
where its share of the rhna

1795
01:03:38,585 --> 01:03:40,430
allocation would exceed its

1796
01:03:40,430 --> 01:03:42,000
share of the bay area

1797
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,126
households. And as gillian just

1798
01:03:44,126 --> 01:03:46,543
showed, the last cycle, santa

1799
01:03:46,543 --> 01:03:47,835
clara county also had the

1800
01:03:47,835 --> 01:03:49,210
largest share.

1801
01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:50,793
similar to other counties in the

1802
01:03:50,793 --> 01:03:53,193
region, and statewide, our

1803
01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:55,585
residents and elected officials

1804
01:03:55,585 --> 01:03:57,000
are also questioning where and

1805
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,752
how they will be able to build

1806
01:03:58,752 --> 01:04:01,000
these large share of allocated

1807
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,000
units, especially when they have

1808
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,710
already struggled the last eight

1809
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:06,877
years to meet much lower

1810
01:04:06,877 --> 01:04:09,251
numbers. So, you know, we can

1811
01:04:09,251 --> 01:04:11,651
discuss the 441,000 big number

1812
01:04:12,293 --> 01:04:15,100
that we received from hcd, and I

1813
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:16,543
understand the challenges that

1814
01:04:16,543 --> 01:04:19,000
we will all face trying to meet

1815
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,376
our allocations, but at this

1816
01:04:21,376 --> 01:04:23,000
point, with the remaining

1817
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
solutions before us, option 8a

1818
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,710
being the best one, when you

1819
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:30,627
review the statutory objectives,

1820
01:04:30,627 --> 01:04:32,430
we believe the better solution

1821
01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:34,168
is for us to join together as a

1822
01:04:34,168 --> 01:04:36,960
region and figure out, is there

1823
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,752
a way to delay this rhna

1824
01:04:38,752 --> 01:04:41,000
process. Is there a way for us

1825
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,501
to join with abag and

1826
01:04:42,501 --> 01:04:45,335
communicate to hcd on other

1827
01:04:45,335 --> 01:04:48,935
solutions? But if the goal of

1828
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,627
some of my colleagues is to

1829
01:04:50,627 --> 01:04:52,460
change the methodology at this

1830
01:04:52,460 --> 01:04:55,430
point, that is something that we

1831
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:57,210
could not support. Thank you so

1832
01:04:57,210 --> 01:04:59,840
much, chair, for giving me this

1833
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:00,710
opportunity.

1834
01:05:00,710 --> 01:05:01,752
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

1835
01:05:01,752 --> 01:05:03,877
you so much. Mark ross?

1836
01:05:03,877 --> 01:05:04,460
>>dir. Mark ross: thank you

1837
01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:05,627
madam chair. I will briefly

1838
01:05:05,627 --> 01:05:08,000
speak in support of what my --

1839
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,126
most of the speakers before me,

1840
01:05:10,126 --> 01:05:13,668
julie and pat, and neysa have

1841
01:05:13,668 --> 01:05:16,376
said, 8a would be the preferable

1842
01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:18,460
option, speaking as the air

1843
01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:19,840
district representative to the

1844
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,543
rpc, not meeting the vmt and the

1845
01:05:22,543 --> 01:05:25,835
ghg goals is of greatest concern

1846
01:05:25,835 --> 01:05:29,000
to this particular seat, and I

1847
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,835
don't see how we're going to do

1848
01:05:30,835 --> 01:05:34,840
that with what is on the table,

1849
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,251
which was very hard work, a lot

1850
01:05:36,251 --> 01:05:38,100
of work by staff, which I do

1851
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,752
appreciate.

1852
01:05:39,752 --> 01:05:43,352
option 8a seems to be inching

1853
01:05:47,543 --> 01:05:49,752
closer to that endeavor, that

1854
01:05:49,752 --> 01:05:53,352
goal, of reducing ghgs and vmts

1855
01:05:54,126 --> 01:05:56,251
but it doesn't seem like we're

1856
01:05:56,251 --> 01:05:58,668
going that way. Being closer to

1857
01:05:58,668 --> 01:06:00,335
jobs or finding a solution to

1858
01:06:00,335 --> 01:06:02,735
that inequitism would be

1859
01:06:07,335 --> 01:06:08,668
helpful.

1860
01:06:08,668 --> 01:06:09,293
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

1861
01:06:09,293 --> 01:06:10,460
you. I'm not seeing any raised

1862
01:06:10,460 --> 01:06:12,710
hands from committee members.

1863
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:14,000
so at this time I will ask for

1864
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,460
our first speaker. Again. I'm

1865
01:06:16,460 --> 01:06:18,210
going to have a timer. Three

1866
01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:20,000
minutes. Mr. Castro?

1867
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,793
>>clerk of the board: yes. Our

1868
01:06:20,793 --> 01:06:23,193
first speaker is clayton

1869
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:25,860
holstein. Please go ahead.

1870
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,400
>>speaker: thank you, madam

1871
01:06:29,627 --> 01:06:31,960
chair, and committee members. I

1872
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,960
am clayton holstine city manager

1873
01:06:38,501 --> 01:06:40,840
in brisbane california in

1874
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,126
northern san mateo canyon. Back

1875
01:06:42,126 --> 01:06:44,418
on october 14th of this year we

1876
01:06:44,418 --> 01:06:46,627
sent a letter with regards to

1877
01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:49,376
the proposed rhna methodology to

1878
01:06:49,376 --> 01:06:50,877
the abag executive board. Since

1879
01:06:50,877 --> 01:06:52,000
then we have had an opportunity

1880
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,960
to meet with mtc and abag staff,

1881
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,126
those have been productive

1882
01:06:56,126 --> 01:06:58,585
meetings, but we still maintain

1883
01:06:58,585 --> 01:07:00,293
a concern with regards to some

1884
01:07:00,293 --> 01:07:02,000
of the areas in our town that

1885
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,710
are being identified for

1886
01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:05,710
potential, future housing

1887
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,919
development. These are areas

1888
01:07:08,919 --> 01:07:11,319
that were historical landfills

1889
01:07:12,501 --> 01:07:16,101
from the early part of last

1890
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:21,000
century as well as part of a

1891
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,585
tank farm area that serves san

1892
01:07:23,585 --> 01:07:24,627
francisco airport. We don't

1893
01:07:24,627 --> 01:07:26,000
believe these areas are suitable

1894
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,251
for housing. We have gone

1895
01:07:27,251 --> 01:07:28,752
through a multi-year planning

1896
01:07:28,752 --> 01:07:30,376
process for the area that has

1897
01:07:30,376 --> 01:07:32,501
been identified as a high growth

1898
01:07:32,501 --> 01:07:35,501
area, and in 2018, our voters

1899
01:07:38,251 --> 01:07:39,627
approved a general plan

1900
01:07:39,627 --> 01:07:42,627
amendment that allowed up to

1901
01:07:43,126 --> 01:07:45,919
2200 housing units on that site.

1902
01:07:45,919 --> 01:07:48,752
we are actively involved with

1903
01:07:48,752 --> 01:07:50,000
the landowner to move that

1904
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,000
forward so that can reach

1905
01:07:53,752 --> 01:07:55,585
fruition. The proposed

1906
01:07:55,585 --> 01:07:58,000
methodology, the output to that

1907
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,877
-- from that, has us several

1908
01:08:00,877 --> 01:08:03,877
hundred units above that. I

1909
01:08:04,126 --> 01:08:06,752
would want to note that the 20

1910
01:08:06,752 --> 01:08:09,152
-- 200 housing units is

1911
01:08:12,430 --> 01:08:15,430
currently over our stock, and

1912
01:08:19,543 --> 01:08:21,835
we're a good player in the

1913
01:08:21,835 --> 01:08:23,710
process we would ask for some

1914
01:08:23,710 --> 01:08:24,793
future considerations with

1915
01:08:24,793 --> 01:08:26,168
regards to the inputs of the

1916
01:08:26,168 --> 01:08:28,000
model we're not arguing with the

1917
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,877
model itself, but to the inputs

1918
01:08:30,877 --> 01:08:33,418
in terms of what available land

1919
01:08:33,418 --> 01:08:35,126
is suitable. Thank you.

1920
01:08:35,126 --> 01:08:36,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: next

1921
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,835
speaker.

1922
01:08:36,835 --> 01:08:37,418
>>clerk of the board: david

1923
01:08:37,418 --> 01:08:39,418
foreman. Go ahead.

1924
01:08:41,168 --> 01:08:43,568
david, please unmute yourself.

1925
01:08:44,501 --> 01:08:45,752
>>speaker: okay. Thank you.

1926
01:08:45,752 --> 01:08:48,000
it's actually paul foreman.

1927
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,627
david is my son. I happen to be

1928
01:08:49,627 --> 01:08:52,270
on his zoom. Okay.

1929
01:08:53,335 --> 01:08:56,000
the purpose of this statement is

1930
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,200
to express my concern to abag of

1931
01:09:02,710 --> 01:09:04,000
the fact that your methodology

1932
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,293
does not include natural hazards

1933
01:09:06,293 --> 01:09:08,501
in the allocation formula.

1934
01:09:08,501 --> 01:09:10,835
on page five of the october 15th

1935
01:09:10,835 --> 01:09:12,501
report of the executive

1936
01:09:12,501 --> 01:09:15,000
director, he comments on this

1937
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
factor with the parting

1938
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,376
sentence, local governments will

1939
01:09:18,376 --> 01:09:19,501
have the opportunity to consider

1940
01:09:19,501 --> 01:09:22,168
the most appropriate places for

1941
01:09:22,168 --> 01:09:24,000
planning for housing in lower

1942
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
risk areas, when they update

1943
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,168
their housing elements, their

1944
01:09:28,168 --> 01:09:30,100
general plans. That may be true

1945
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,960
of most cities in the bay area,

1946
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,376
but it's certainly not true of

1947
01:09:33,376 --> 01:09:36,335
my city of alameda. The abag

1948
01:09:36,335 --> 01:09:38,735
natural hazard map indicates

1949
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,168
that alameda is among those of

1950
01:09:41,168 --> 01:09:42,835
the lowest percentage of the

1951
01:09:42,835 --> 01:09:44,543
urbanized area outside of a

1952
01:09:44,543 --> 01:09:46,126
hazard zone less than 50

1953
01:09:46,126 --> 01:09:48,919
percent. It's obvious if the

1954
01:09:48,919 --> 01:09:50,585
primary hazard that causes this

1955
01:09:50,585 --> 01:09:52,585
is sea level rise. A recent

1956
01:09:52,585 --> 01:09:55,585
study by bcdc indicates that

1957
01:09:55,627 --> 01:09:58,627
current projects from the year

1958
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,376
2100 are 66 inches with a storm

1959
01:10:02,376 --> 01:10:04,376
surge level of 84 inches. A

1960
01:10:04,376 --> 01:10:06,668
review of flood visualization

1961
01:10:06,668 --> 01:10:09,000
maps shows that the portion of

1962
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,919
alameda that is outside of a

1963
01:10:10,919 --> 01:10:13,000
hazard zone is the center of an

1964
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,293
island which is already very

1965
01:10:15,293 --> 01:10:17,376
densely built up. And one of

1966
01:10:17,376 --> 01:10:19,430
your meet members talked about

1967
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:22,430
20 units per acre current zoning

1968
01:10:22,877 --> 01:10:23,919
restriction which of course

1969
01:10:23,919 --> 01:10:25,877
doesn't apply to our housing

1970
01:10:25,877 --> 01:10:27,710
element. We are a ten square

1971
01:10:27,710 --> 01:10:30,110
mile island. We have 75,000

1972
01:10:31,335 --> 01:10:33,735
plus people. We have 7500

1973
01:10:34,293 --> 01:10:37,430
residents per square mile. That

1974
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:38,752
is a little bit more than

1975
01:10:38,752 --> 01:10:41,000
oakland. There are very few

1976
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,919
cities in the bay area that have

1977
01:10:43,919 --> 01:10:46,319
higher density than alameda.

1978
01:10:46,418 --> 01:10:48,000
so, that's what you have to look

1979
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,000
at. Not our zoning ordinances.

1980
01:10:51,668 --> 01:10:55,000
with the fact that we have so

1981
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,840
little area outside of a hazard

1982
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,000
zone, and what we do have is

1983
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,627
built up, alameda really has no

1984
01:11:02,627 --> 01:11:04,460
choice but to build new housing

1985
01:11:04,460 --> 01:11:07,460
directly in the flood hazard

1986
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,668
zone. In fact of the 4,000 new

1987
01:11:11,668 --> 01:11:14,680
units being proposed and

1988
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,000
approved, is a flood hazard

1989
01:11:18,877 --> 01:11:21,877
zone. Ingress and egress and

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,000
the fact that most police and

1991
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,430
fire responders live off the

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01:11:26,430 --> 01:11:27,585
island and for someone to say

1993
01:11:27,585 --> 01:11:29,210
that it's our obligation too fix

1994
01:11:29,210 --> 01:11:32,810
our bridges as opposed to the

1995
01:11:33,210 --> 01:11:36,000
state and opposed to oakland, I

1996
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,840
am sure it's not in this

1997
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:38,919
condition for lack of trying,

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01:11:38,919 --> 01:11:41,430
none of the above is intended to

1999
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:43,000
off alameda should not have a

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01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,877
significant rhna. We're a high

2001
01:11:44,877 --> 01:11:46,100
resource city that fits very

2002
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,100
well into the equity factor.

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01:11:49,418 --> 01:11:50,430
>>clerk of the board: time is

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01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:50,376
up.

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01:11:50,376 --> 01:11:51,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair:

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,293
mr. Holstine, thank you for your

2007
01:11:54,293 --> 01:11:55,335
comments. You're welcome to

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01:11:55,335 --> 01:11:57,335
submit -- okay. Stop -- you're

2009
01:11:57,335 --> 01:11:58,793
welcome to submit the balance of

2010
01:11:58,793 --> 01:12:00,376
your comments or all of your

2011
01:12:00,376 --> 01:12:02,000
comment in writing. Next

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,000
caller, please, fred?

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>>clerk of the board: joshua

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hug. Go ahead.

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>>speaker: good afternoon my

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01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:17,000
name is joshua hug speaking on

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,460
behalf of the peninsula regional

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01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:20,793
open space district. Thank you

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01:12:20,793 --> 01:12:22,000
for the opportunity to speak.

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we're deeply concerned with the

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01:12:23,752 --> 01:12:26,152
steep increase of housing

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01:12:26,627 --> 01:12:28,460
allocations for unincorporated

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01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:31,100
areas opposition 8a and request

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01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,000
that these allocation in these

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,126
particular jurisdictions be

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01:12:34,126 --> 01:12:35,835
significantly reduced also

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01:12:35,835 --> 01:12:37,710
utilizing households as a base

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01:12:37,710 --> 01:12:40,110
for five growth no

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01:12:42,293 --> 01:12:44,693
unincorporated areas neglects to

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01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:46,960
protect these open space areas

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,960
and agriculture lands through

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01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:49,460
intensive [indiscernible]

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01:12:49,460 --> 01:12:50,126
significantly unurbanized areas.

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01:12:50,126 --> 01:12:50,877
high rhna allocations in

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01:12:50,877 --> 01:12:52,877
unincorporated counties will

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000
force counties to look beyond

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,627
their limited urbanized areas

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01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:01,251
and into greenfield locations to

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01:13:01,251 --> 01:13:03,000
zone for new housing. We feel

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an unincorporated approach

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01:13:09,210 --> 01:13:11,610
conflicts with government code

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01:13:12,710 --> 01:13:15,000
65584-d2, which states among the

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,000
goals of the housing element is

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the protection of environmental

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,210
and agricultural resources. As

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01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:23,000
a steward for several priority

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,000
conservation areas for the last

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01:13:26,501 --> 01:13:28,000
50 years, we know the lands

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,000
provide critical ecosystem

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01:13:32,585 --> 01:13:35,418
services to support urban areas

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01:13:35,418 --> 01:13:37,960
with clean water, food, and

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01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,000
urban respite for the public.

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,251
our concern is housing in the

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01:13:40,251 --> 01:13:42,840
wildfire urban interface and

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,840
high severity zones

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01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:48,126
significantly increase risk for

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01:13:48,126 --> 01:13:51,726
fire ignition and poses a risk

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01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:52,877
for homes in and around a wui.

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01:13:52,877 --> 01:13:55,277
increased risk to sensitive

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01:13:57,293 --> 01:13:58,000
habitats and enhanced risk

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:58,710
exposure of predator populations

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01:13:58,710 --> 01:13:59,251
to rodenticides adjacent to

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01:13:59,251 --> 01:14:00,000
residential areas. Impacts to

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,000
regional critical habitat

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01:14:03,877 --> 01:14:06,877
linkages that serve to enable

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,360
wildlife movement across the

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,000
landscape to enable and adapt to

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,418
climate change and maintain

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01:14:14,418 --> 01:14:16,818
local genetic diversity and

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01:14:17,668 --> 01:14:20,680
finally new world growth

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01:14:20,919 --> 01:14:23,000
undermines vmt reduction goals

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,000
outlined in sb 375, as these

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,000
residents will likely be forced

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,168
into cars. We urge to you

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01:14:27,168 --> 01:14:29,000
maintain the delicate balance

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,400
between natural environment and

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,251
working lands that planned bay

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01:14:33,251 --> 01:14:34,877
area has successfully provided

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01:14:34,877 --> 01:14:38,477
until now and reduce pressure to

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01:14:38,793 --> 01:14:41,193
building in these ecologically

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,418
valuable areas. Thank you.

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01:14:43,418 --> 01:14:44,430
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2083
01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:46,430
you. Next speaker.

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01:14:46,835 --> 01:14:47,668
>>clerk of the board: greg

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01:14:47,668 --> 01:14:48,000
schmidt.

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,126
>>karen mitchoff, chair:

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01:14:49,126 --> 01:14:50,835
mr. Schmidt?

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01:14:50,835 --> 01:14:51,460
>>speaker: yes. Thank you for

2089
01:14:51,460 --> 01:14:53,840
the opportunity.

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,430
the proposed rhna numbers for

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01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:58,000
the five cities of silicon

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,501
valley are overwhelming in size

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01:15:00,501 --> 01:15:04,000
and impact. They are also in

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,000
direct defiance of the

2095
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,000
california government code.

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01:15:08,627 --> 01:15:10,627
first, the numbers.

2097
01:15:10,668 --> 01:15:13,100
the number of new housing units

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01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,543
required within the five cities

2099
01:15:15,543 --> 01:15:19,143
of silicon valley would equal a

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01:15:19,627 --> 01:15:22,000
32 percent increase in the

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,000
existing housing stock over the

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,000
next eight years.

2103
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,000
it's a mandate for percentage

2104
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,400
increase that is 60 percent

2105
01:15:32,627 --> 01:15:35,000
higher than the three largest

2106
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,200
cities in the bay area. It's a

2107
01:15:40,919 --> 01:15:43,319
50 percent higher increase than

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01:15:44,627 --> 01:15:48,000
the largest cities of san mateo

2109
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,293
county along the bay and 150

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01:15:50,293 --> 01:15:51,840
percent higher percentage

2111
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,684
increase than the other east bay

2112
01:15:54,752 --> 01:15:56,210
cities along the bay.

2113
01:15:56,210 --> 01:15:57,668
where do these numbers come

2114
01:15:57,668 --> 01:15:59,668
from?

2115
01:16:01,376 --> 01:16:02,543
california government code

2116
01:16:02,543 --> 01:16:04,943
section 65584 mandates that the

2117
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,168
rhna numbers be consistent with

2118
01:16:09,168 --> 01:16:11,568
abag's planned bay area 2050.

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01:16:13,251 --> 01:16:16,851
but the same code requires abag

2120
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,376
to quote "explore alternative

2121
01:16:23,376 --> 01:16:25,776
ways of improving inter-regional

2122
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,400
jobs/housing imbalances." they

2123
01:16:30,376 --> 01:16:32,376
have not done that. Abag's

2124
01:16:32,376 --> 01:16:33,293
planned bay area 2050

2125
01:16:33,293 --> 01:16:36,293
methodology uses a single, very

2126
01:16:37,501 --> 01:16:39,501
aggressive, jobs-based model

2127
01:16:40,835 --> 01:16:43,835
that focuses massive job growth

2128
01:16:44,543 --> 01:16:47,100
in the five cities of silicon

2129
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:48,877
valley. That means, of course,

2130
01:16:48,877 --> 01:16:50,710
that housing for the new workers

2131
01:16:50,710 --> 01:16:53,251
is targeted within those same

2132
01:16:53,251 --> 01:16:57,451
cities. It has a very hard time

2133
01:16:57,835 --> 01:16:59,710
competing with new office space

2134
01:16:59,710 --> 01:17:02,501
for some of the most expensive

2135
01:17:02,501 --> 01:17:05,501
real estate in the country.

2136
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:10,100
abag has refused repeated public

2137
01:17:10,418 --> 01:17:13,000
requests that they follow the

2138
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,835
government code that requires a

2139
01:17:15,835 --> 01:17:18,835
serious look at realistic job

2140
01:17:23,585 --> 01:17:25,126
dispersion to other bay area job

2141
01:17:25,126 --> 01:17:26,543
centers. Neither the housing

2142
01:17:26,543 --> 01:17:28,100
committee, nor this committee,

2143
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:30,100
nor other city councils in the

2144
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:33,000
bay area has had a serious

2145
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,835
public discussion of the impact

2146
01:17:35,835 --> 01:17:38,835
of jobs dispersion across the

2147
01:17:42,668 --> 01:17:46,268
bay area as required by code.

2148
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,600
be clear request by the abag

2149
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,627
rhna process should stop until

2150
01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:55,270
the government followed --

2151
01:17:55,668 --> 01:17:56,293
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2152
01:17:56,293 --> 01:17:58,000
you mr. Schmidt. That's three

2153
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,126
minutes. Thank you. Next

2154
01:17:59,126 --> 01:18:01,000
speaker, fred.

2155
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,668
>>clerk of the board: yes,

2156
01:18:01,668 --> 01:18:03,835
ma'am. Our next speaker is

2157
01:18:03,835 --> 01:18:05,251
aaron eckhouse. Go ahead.

2158
01:18:05,251 --> 01:18:06,376
>>speaker: hi. Thank you my

2159
01:18:06,376 --> 01:18:08,752
name is aaron eckhouse, I'm the

2160
01:18:08,752 --> 01:18:10,418
regional policy manager for

2161
01:18:10,418 --> 01:18:13,418
california yimby, yes in my

2162
01:18:14,293 --> 01:18:16,000
backyard. I want to say I think

2163
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,126
-- I want to commend hmc for the

2164
01:18:18,126 --> 01:18:19,877
great work they did on this

2165
01:18:19,877 --> 01:18:21,840
draft methodology. I think they

2166
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,684
did -- when faced with an

2167
01:18:26,835 --> 01:18:28,335
exceptionally difficult task

2168
01:18:28,335 --> 01:18:30,735
with competing interests they

2169
01:18:31,668 --> 01:18:35,268
did a great job. Scoring highly

2170
01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:37,210
on all of the statutory

2171
01:18:37,210 --> 01:18:38,585
objectives and performance

2172
01:18:38,585 --> 01:18:40,793
metrics that staff developed for

2173
01:18:40,793 --> 01:18:42,168
that. I want to address the

2174
01:18:42,168 --> 01:18:44,210
idea that this project does not

2175
01:18:44,210 --> 01:18:46,610
advance infill growth, jobs

2176
01:18:47,376 --> 01:18:49,126
oriented growth or transit

2177
01:18:49,126 --> 01:18:50,919
oriented growth because that is

2178
01:18:50,919 --> 01:18:53,752
simply not accurate. There is

2179
01:18:53,752 --> 01:18:55,418
simply higher growth in

2180
01:18:55,418 --> 01:18:57,000
transit-rich cities job rich

2181
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,501
cities and low vmt cities under

2182
01:18:59,501 --> 01:19:00,960
this proposed methodology

2183
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,430
compared to other cities in the

2184
01:19:02,430 --> 01:19:03,460
region. So I think you will

2185
01:19:03,460 --> 01:19:06,100
see, if you look at the

2186
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,627
performance metrics that it

2187
01:19:07,627 --> 01:19:09,126
scores highly on that front.

2188
01:19:09,126 --> 01:19:11,418
some of the alternatives that

2189
01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:13,818
have been proposed particularly

2190
01:19:16,376 --> 01:19:18,126
shifting the baseline would be a

2191
01:19:18,126 --> 01:19:19,251
disaster for some of the

2192
01:19:19,251 --> 01:19:20,960
performance metrics particularly

2193
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,585
to those facing equity and fair

2194
01:19:23,585 --> 01:19:25,000
housing. And I think would

2195
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,000
leave abag either vulnerable to

2196
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,710
rejection by hcd or a lawsuit

2197
01:19:30,710 --> 01:19:32,418
for failing to uphold their

2198
01:19:32,418 --> 01:19:34,418
legal obligation for

2199
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:39,000
affirmatively furthering affair

2200
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,668
housing. These issues can be

2201
01:19:40,668 --> 01:19:42,627
addressed through small targeted

2202
01:19:42,627 --> 01:19:44,000
adjustments such as a reduction

2203
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,960
to the allocations specifically

2204
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,360
for unincorporated areas. I

2205
01:19:48,543 --> 01:19:49,585
don't think we need to zero

2206
01:19:49,585 --> 01:19:51,126
those out because there are

2207
01:19:51,126 --> 01:19:53,501
places like stanford that are in

2208
01:19:53,501 --> 01:19:54,585
unincorporated areas and have

2209
01:19:54,585 --> 01:19:56,627
housing needs. But there can be

2210
01:19:56,627 --> 01:19:59,000
target adjustments made there.

2211
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,877
there can be targeted

2212
01:20:00,877 --> 01:20:03,277
adjustments made to further

2213
01:20:03,919 --> 01:20:05,251
equity adjustment, representing

2214
01:20:05,251 --> 01:20:07,585
a minor change at the scale of

2215
01:20:07,585 --> 01:20:09,126
the methodology. But overall, I

2216
01:20:09,126 --> 01:20:11,840
think you should uphold the work

2217
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,000
of the housing methodology

2218
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
committee, I think it recognize

2219
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,501
there is say need for housing

2220
01:20:16,501 --> 01:20:18,543
everywhere in our region. There

2221
01:20:18,543 --> 01:20:19,585
are jobs everywhere if our

2222
01:20:19,585 --> 01:20:20,835
region there are people in need

2223
01:20:20,835 --> 01:20:22,000
of housing everywhere in our

2224
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,376
region, and it directs more

2225
01:20:23,376 --> 01:20:25,877
growth to jobs rich and

2226
01:20:25,877 --> 01:20:27,501
transit-rich areas, but it also

2227
01:20:27,501 --> 01:20:28,710
recognizes the fact that every

2228
01:20:28,710 --> 01:20:30,501
part of our region has a part to

2229
01:20:30,501 --> 01:20:32,100
play in addressing our housing

2230
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,100
needs. And it shouldn't be

2231
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,919
limited by the fact that the

2232
01:20:38,919 --> 01:20:40,585
current general plan is

2233
01:20:40,585 --> 01:20:42,210
inadequate. Thank you.

2234
01:20:42,210 --> 01:20:43,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2235
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,376
you. Next speaker please.

2236
01:20:44,376 --> 01:20:47,976
>>clerk of the board: grown --

2237
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,400
greenbelt alliance. Go ahead.

2238
01:20:50,668 --> 01:20:52,000
>>speaker: amanda brown-stevens

2239
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,400
from grown belt alliance.

2240
01:20:54,501 --> 01:20:56,251
executive director of greenbelt

2241
01:20:56,251 --> 01:20:59,501
alliance and was part of the

2242
01:20:59,501 --> 01:21:00,752
housing committee, I want to

2243
01:21:00,752 --> 01:21:02,100
thank staff for all the work you

2244
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:04,000
have done. I think, overall, I

2245
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,543
am proud of being part of this

2246
01:21:05,543 --> 01:21:07,251
process. The methodology is of

2247
01:21:07,251 --> 01:21:08,543
course a compromise, not

2248
01:21:08,543 --> 01:21:10,126
perfect, but just would agree

2249
01:21:10,126 --> 01:21:13,726
with aaron's comment that is it

2250
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,100
absolutely moves in the right

2251
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,376
direction planning for homes

2252
01:21:18,376 --> 01:21:20,668
near jobs and amenities where

2253
01:21:20,668 --> 01:21:22,501
people live. I am in favor of

2254
01:21:22,501 --> 01:21:24,335
making that relatively small

2255
01:21:24,335 --> 01:21:26,335
adjustment to address

2256
01:21:26,501 --> 01:21:27,919
unincorporated areas,

2257
01:21:27,919 --> 01:21:29,251
particularly as per the comments

2258
01:21:29,251 --> 01:21:31,501
by staff, around the goals of

2259
01:21:31,501 --> 01:21:33,627
planned bay area, and honoring

2260
01:21:33,627 --> 01:21:36,627
urban growth boundaries and not

2261
01:21:36,835 --> 01:21:38,100
inducing sprawl. I think there

2262
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,501
are some ways to make those

2263
01:21:40,501 --> 01:21:42,901
adjustments using a data-driven

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,000
process to allocate the housing

2265
01:21:47,210 --> 01:21:50,210
in the manner of following

2266
01:21:51,335 --> 01:21:54,919
infill and the spirit of the

2267
01:21:54,919 --> 01:21:56,919
methodology. Thank you.

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01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:03,919
>>clerk of the board: thank

2269
01:22:03,919 --> 01:22:05,543
you. Next speaker is rodney

2270
01:22:05,543 --> 01:22:06,251
nickens.

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01:22:06,251 --> 01:22:08,651
>>speaker: thank you goods

2272
01:22:09,668 --> 01:22:11,668
afternoon everyone. Rodney

2273
01:22:14,126 --> 01:22:15,710
nickens. I was part of the

2274
01:22:15,710 --> 01:22:16,710
housing methodology committee.

2275
01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:19,000
I want to echo the comments of

2276
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,400
my colleagues at greenbelt

2277
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,000
alliance and yimby. I support,

2278
01:22:27,335 --> 01:22:30,335
use the planned bay area 2050

2279
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,168
households baseline however the

2280
01:22:32,168 --> 01:22:34,000
methodology could be refined and

2281
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,960
improved with an equity

2282
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,360
adjustment that myself jeff

2283
01:22:38,501 --> 01:22:40,901
levin, carlos romero, all

2284
01:22:42,376 --> 01:22:45,376
advocated for. As has been

2285
01:22:50,793 --> 01:22:53,251
echoed, many of my colleagues

2286
01:22:53,251 --> 01:22:55,651
and housing advocates this

2287
01:22:55,835 --> 01:22:57,668
adjustment is critical to moving

2288
01:22:57,668 --> 01:23:01,268
us to a prosperous region where

2289
01:23:01,335 --> 01:23:03,293
all residents have a safe and

2290
01:23:03,293 --> 01:23:05,501
affordable home in access to

2291
01:23:05,501 --> 01:23:07,501
educational and economic

2292
01:23:09,627 --> 01:23:11,752
opportunities, as has been

2293
01:23:11,752 --> 01:23:14,501
mentioned option 8a was a

2294
01:23:14,501 --> 01:23:17,000
compromise and falls short of

2295
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,000
the j equity adjustment. We

2296
01:23:21,543 --> 01:23:22,877
need to ensure that every

2297
01:23:22,877 --> 01:23:24,840
resident has a stable home that

2298
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,684
they can afford. I would also

2299
01:23:27,835 --> 01:23:31,840
strongly urge abag to reject any

2300
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,418
alternatives such as changing

2301
01:23:32,418 --> 01:23:35,000
the baseline which would perform

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01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,168
worse on the statutory

2303
01:23:37,168 --> 01:23:39,000
objectives performance metrics.

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,418
if adjustments are to be made

2305
01:23:41,418 --> 01:23:43,100
they should improve performance

2306
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:46,100
on the objectives. The housing

2307
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,376
element process is another

2308
01:23:50,376 --> 01:23:52,668
opportunity to also explore.

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01:23:52,668 --> 01:23:54,000
which will also include

2310
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,100
equitable planning that accounts

2311
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,335
for geographies that are

2312
01:23:57,335 --> 01:23:58,710
vulnerable to fire and flood

2313
01:23:58,710 --> 01:24:01,000
protect our open space while

2314
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,251
also tackling our region's

2315
01:24:03,251 --> 01:24:04,376
long-standing problem with

2316
01:24:04,376 --> 01:24:06,000
segregation and exclusion. For

2317
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,376
those reasons I mentioned above,

2318
01:24:07,376 --> 01:24:10,376
I strongly support option 8a

2319
01:24:10,501 --> 01:24:11,877
with the equity adjustment.

2320
01:24:11,877 --> 01:24:12,501
thank you.

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01:24:12,501 --> 01:24:13,126
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

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01:24:13,126 --> 01:24:16,126
you. Our next speaker, fred?

2323
01:24:16,710 --> 01:24:19,710
>>clerk of the board: paul

2324
01:24:19,835 --> 01:24:20,668
kermoyan.

2325
01:24:20,668 --> 01:24:21,960
>>speaker: thank you committee

2326
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,960
members. My name is paul

2327
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:29,627
kermoyan, I'm the community

2328
01:24:29,627 --> 01:24:31,000
development director for the

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:31,627
city of campbell. Thank you to

2330
01:24:31,627 --> 01:24:32,251
abag staff and hmc for advancing

2331
01:24:32,251 --> 01:24:33,543
the methodology; it's really

2332
01:24:33,543 --> 01:24:35,000
important. The pda 2050 growth

2333
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,752
projections illustrate

2334
01:24:36,752 --> 01:24:37,835
geographical areas located

2335
01:24:37,835 --> 01:24:39,835
within one and a half miles of

2336
01:24:39,835 --> 01:24:41,000
transit stops and high

2337
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,000
opportunity areas as being ripe

2338
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,840
future housing growth.

2339
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:47,210
unfortunately these areas, which

2340
01:24:47,210 --> 01:24:50,210
are defined as pda eligible

2341
01:24:51,335 --> 01:24:53,000
acres, in campbell, we have

2342
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,400
about 2600 acres contain lands

2343
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,000
that cannot be developed. This

2344
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,543
is a common occurrence in many

2345
01:25:01,543 --> 01:25:03,943
you in municipalities. Although

2346
01:25:06,335 --> 01:25:09,335
the structure of the methodology

2347
01:25:10,793 --> 01:25:13,126
may be found sound the growth

2348
01:25:13,126 --> 01:25:15,840
projections data input used to

2349
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,840
influence the outcome is not.

2350
01:25:18,543 --> 01:25:20,000
for example, acreage figure

2351
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,400
should exclude more than

2352
01:25:22,585 --> 01:25:24,752
highways, roads, and parks, they

2353
01:25:24,752 --> 01:25:26,000
should exclude new developments

2354
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,000
that will not it turn over in

2355
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,960
the next 30 years, pg&e

2356
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,960
substations, creeks, habitat

2357
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:35,100
areas, conservation areas,

2358
01:25:35,335 --> 01:25:37,000
historical preservation

2359
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,000
districts, valley water

2360
01:25:39,793 --> 01:25:41,752
percolation ponds, single family

2361
01:25:41,752 --> 01:25:43,919
zoning districts where a

2362
01:25:43,919 --> 01:25:46,168
developer would have to buy out

2363
01:25:46,168 --> 01:25:47,168
multi-million dollar singly

2364
01:25:47,168 --> 01:25:49,251
family homes and hope to build

2365
01:25:49,251 --> 01:25:50,835
multi-family development,

2366
01:25:50,835 --> 01:25:52,835
government owned properties,

2367
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,400
abandoned vta, light rail

2368
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,168
extensions et cetera. Why is

2369
01:25:58,168 --> 01:26:00,335
this important? Because state

2370
01:26:00,335 --> 01:26:02,126
housing law requires that

2371
01:26:02,126 --> 01:26:05,126
housing element specify site for

2372
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,960
a number of units realistically

2373
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,100
to be accommodated whether a

2374
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:14,100
site is adequate. Please help

2375
01:26:22,168 --> 01:26:24,568
this region more realistically

2376
01:26:25,168 --> 01:26:26,793
realize our goal and modify the

2377
01:26:26,793 --> 01:26:29,793
pda2050 growth projections as an

2378
01:26:30,793 --> 01:26:33,000
element of the hmc methodology.

2379
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:33,877
thank you.

2380
01:26:33,877 --> 01:26:34,501
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2381
01:26:34,501 --> 01:26:35,000
you.

2382
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:35,543
>>clerk of the board: next

2383
01:26:35,543 --> 01:26:38,543
speaker is shajuti hossain. Go

2384
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:39,793
ahead.

2385
01:26:39,793 --> 01:26:41,793
>>speaker: hi I'm shajuti

2386
01:26:41,793 --> 01:26:43,585
hossain an attorney with public

2387
01:26:43,585 --> 01:26:45,210
advocates I want to echo

2388
01:26:45,210 --> 01:26:48,210
comments from rodney nickens. I

2389
01:26:49,126 --> 01:26:50,960
support the housing methodology

2390
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,000
committee proposed methodology

2391
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,251
but believe it needs to be

2392
01:26:54,251 --> 01:26:56,460
further refined with an equity

2393
01:26:56,460 --> 01:26:59,460
adjustment to further meet the

2394
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,000
statutory objective of

2395
01:27:02,543 --> 01:27:04,000
affirmatively furthering affair

2396
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,293
housing to reduce commutes

2397
01:27:06,293 --> 01:27:07,919
improve our environment and

2398
01:27:07,919 --> 01:27:10,919
ensure residents have a stable

2399
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,627
environment they can afford.

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01:27:13,627 --> 01:27:17,227
make the baseline that homes are

2401
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,000
close to jobs this equity

2402
01:27:22,168 --> 01:27:24,000
adjustment allocates 60 percent

2403
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,210
of total rhna into san francisco

2404
01:27:27,210 --> 01:27:28,293
san mateo and santa clara

2405
01:27:28,293 --> 01:27:30,668
county. Other counties do have

2406
01:27:30,668 --> 01:27:33,680
jobs each day 180,000 people

2407
01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:35,100
commute into contra costa county

2408
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:37,210
for work meaning there is still

2409
01:27:37,210 --> 01:27:39,585
need for more affordable homes

2410
01:27:39,585 --> 01:27:41,100
there as well. And access to

2411
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:42,000
opportunity factor in the

2412
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,251
methodology is important

2413
01:27:43,251 --> 01:27:45,251
especially for the affordable

2414
01:27:45,251 --> 01:27:46,919
allocations because it prompts

2415
01:27:46,919 --> 01:27:48,000
jurisdictions that have mostly

2416
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,919
zoned for single family homes in

2417
01:27:49,919 --> 01:27:51,627
the past to now zone for

2418
01:27:51,627 --> 01:27:54,627
multi-family homes to meet those

2419
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:56,710
affordable allocations

2420
01:27:56,710 --> 01:27:59,110
multi-family buildings are known

2421
01:27:59,460 --> 01:28:02,840
to be more efficient for land

2422
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,877
and water than single family

2423
01:28:04,877 --> 01:28:07,277
neighborhoods. I strongly urge

2424
01:28:13,460 --> 01:28:15,460
alternatives on the stat owe

2425
01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:17,460
objective performance. There

2426
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:21,000
are still 16 jurisdictions that

2427
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,293
are not getting a fair share of

2428
01:28:23,293 --> 01:28:25,840
affordable allocations. Without

2429
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:26,430
the equity adjustment, rhna will

2430
01:28:26,430 --> 01:28:28,000
exacerbate fair housing problems

2431
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,000
in over 1/3 of our historically

2432
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,840
exclusive jurisdictions. There

2433
01:28:34,335 --> 01:28:35,000
are planning objectives that

2434
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,668
need to be advanced at the local

2435
01:28:36,668 --> 01:28:38,000
level through housing element

2436
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,627
updates those include planning

2437
01:28:39,627 --> 01:28:42,000
that accounts for geographies

2438
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,835
particularly for communities

2439
01:28:43,835 --> 01:28:45,710
vulnerable to fire and flood

2440
01:28:45,710 --> 01:28:47,335
protecting open space and

2441
01:28:47,335 --> 01:28:48,919
dismantling segregation within

2442
01:28:48,919 --> 01:28:51,319
local jurisdictions. I strongly

2443
01:28:51,418 --> 01:28:52,840
support the proposed methodology

2444
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,668
with the 2050 households

2445
01:28:53,668 --> 01:28:55,543
baseline along with the equity

2446
01:28:55,543 --> 01:28:56,919
adjustment. Thank you.

2447
01:28:56,919 --> 01:28:57,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2448
01:28:57,543 --> 01:28:58,877
you.

2449
01:28:58,877 --> 01:28:59,418
>>clerk of the board: next

2450
01:28:59,418 --> 01:29:01,752
speaker is elizabeth osborne.

2451
01:29:01,752 --> 01:29:03,752
go ahead.

2452
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,501
>>speaker: hi. This is

2453
01:29:06,501 --> 01:29:08,901
actually derek sagehorn in

2454
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,000
oakland. I want to express my

2455
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,835
support for the hmc's work. And

2456
01:29:14,835 --> 01:29:17,960
I think that option 8a is really

2457
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,376
the best compromise as well as

2458
01:29:20,376 --> 01:29:22,430
associate myself with comments

2459
01:29:22,430 --> 01:29:24,840
from california yimby and the

2460
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,000
greenbelt alliance. I think to

2461
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,460
the extent that changes need to

2462
01:29:29,460 --> 01:29:31,668
be made, they should be

2463
01:29:31,668 --> 01:29:33,585
adjustments rather than

2464
01:29:33,585 --> 01:29:35,293
wholesale changes to input on

2465
01:29:35,293 --> 01:29:37,840
the baseline as has been

2466
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:38,752
suggested by others here. I

2467
01:29:38,752 --> 01:29:40,752
really think that this is a good

2468
01:29:40,752 --> 01:29:42,126
compromise. But we just need

2469
01:29:42,126 --> 01:29:45,168
more jobs near our housing. I

2470
01:29:45,168 --> 01:29:48,768
firmly reject the idea that job

2471
01:29:49,376 --> 01:29:50,710
dispersion needs to be part of

2472
01:29:50,710 --> 01:29:53,000
this plan. It's just absolutely

2473
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,335
killer for vmt, we cannot

2474
01:29:55,335 --> 01:29:58,335
control the jobs sprawl that

2475
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,000
would result from that. And I

2476
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,210
also want to say from the

2477
01:30:02,210 --> 01:30:03,293
perspective of smaller

2478
01:30:03,293 --> 01:30:04,251
jurisdictions that are saying

2479
01:30:04,251 --> 01:30:07,293
they lack the resources, to one,

2480
01:30:07,293 --> 01:30:08,752
meet the infrastructure, or two

2481
01:30:08,752 --> 01:30:10,335
meet the subsidy needs for the

2482
01:30:10,335 --> 01:30:13,752
low income portion of this it's

2483
01:30:13,752 --> 01:30:14,919
really difficult to hear this

2484
01:30:14,919 --> 01:30:16,710
when some of the same people are

2485
01:30:16,710 --> 01:30:17,793
rejecting free money from the

2486
01:30:17,793 --> 01:30:20,710
state for things like permanent

2487
01:30:20,710 --> 01:30:22,168
supportive homeless housing

2488
01:30:22,168 --> 01:30:24,293
through operation home key. So

2489
01:30:24,293 --> 01:30:25,668
it's really difficult to hear

2490
01:30:25,668 --> 01:30:27,251
that and have these same

2491
01:30:27,251 --> 01:30:29,000
jurisdictions arguing for lower

2492
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,835
homes overall. So thank you for

2493
01:30:30,835 --> 01:30:32,460
your time. And again, support

2494
01:30:32,460 --> 01:30:34,460
for option 8a.

2495
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:35,627
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2496
01:30:35,627 --> 01:30:36,100
you.

2497
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:36,835
>>clerk of the board: next

2498
01:30:36,835 --> 01:30:39,835
speaker is justine marcus. Go

2499
01:30:40,627 --> 01:30:42,251
ahead.

2500
01:30:42,251 --> 01:30:44,210
>>speaker: hi there my name is

2501
01:30:44,210 --> 01:30:46,610
justine marcus the policy

2502
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,840
director for entirety partners I

2503
01:30:50,251 --> 01:30:53,251
am speak today in support of 8a

2504
01:30:53,251 --> 01:30:55,251
with 2050 households baseline

2505
01:30:55,376 --> 01:30:57,430
which was recommended by an

2506
01:30:57,430 --> 01:30:59,443
overwhelming majority of hmc,

2507
01:31:00,430 --> 01:31:02,293
rpc and abag executive board.

2508
01:31:02,293 --> 01:31:04,000
the proposed methodology will

2509
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:05,585
improve our regional balance of

2510
01:31:05,585 --> 01:31:07,210
jobs and housing which we know

2511
01:31:07,210 --> 01:31:09,126
is essential to both reduce our

2512
01:31:09,126 --> 01:31:11,501
greenhouse gas emissions while

2513
01:31:11,501 --> 01:31:12,752
improving the quality of life

2514
01:31:12,752 --> 01:31:14,877
for thousands of workers who

2515
01:31:14,877 --> 01:31:16,376
commute long hours to their jobs

2516
01:31:16,376 --> 01:31:17,835
each day. Methodology accounts

2517
01:31:17,835 --> 01:31:19,960
for job growth, allocating about

2518
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,293
60 percent of the total

2519
01:31:21,293 --> 01:31:22,835
allocation to the three counties

2520
01:31:22,835 --> 01:31:25,251
with the highest projected job

2521
01:31:25,251 --> 01:31:27,000
growth and it also accounts for

2522
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,877
the existing imbalance between

2523
01:31:28,877 --> 01:31:30,376
jobs is housing in counties that

2524
01:31:30,376 --> 01:31:32,000
may not have the largest

2525
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:32,960
projected growth into the

2526
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,668
future, but where today hundreds

2527
01:31:34,668 --> 01:31:36,543
of thousands of people must

2528
01:31:36,543 --> 01:31:38,100
commute in from other counties

2529
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:39,752
because they can't afford to

2530
01:31:39,752 --> 01:31:41,960
live near their jobs. I want to

2531
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,840
echo the comments made by

2532
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,484
partners at greenbelt alliance

2533
01:31:45,501 --> 01:31:47,585
and others that we support the

2534
01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,585
targeted data-driven approach

2535
01:31:49,877 --> 01:31:51,710
staff is pursuing to allocations

2536
01:31:51,710 --> 01:31:54,110
to unincorporated areas via

2537
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:56,376
spheres of influence while

2538
01:31:56,376 --> 01:31:58,710
planning for homes in

2539
01:31:58,710 --> 01:32:00,835
unincorporated areas where it is

2540
01:32:00,835 --> 01:32:01,793
urbanized and appropriate for

2541
01:32:01,793 --> 01:32:04,430
new development. In addition I

2542
01:32:04,430 --> 01:32:05,793
want to associate myself with

2543
01:32:05,793 --> 01:32:09,393
our partners at nph and public

2544
01:32:09,585 --> 01:32:11,430
advocates for the first time in

2545
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:13,000
this rhna cycle we are required

2546
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,400
to affirmatively further fair

2547
01:32:16,210 --> 01:32:18,126
housing and while option a is

2548
01:32:18,126 --> 01:32:19,710
strong going forward it needs to

2549
01:32:19,710 --> 01:32:21,543
go further to address the

2550
01:32:21,543 --> 01:32:23,501
persons of racial and economic

2551
01:32:23,501 --> 01:32:24,960
patterns across the region.

2552
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,360
this exclusion and segregation

2553
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,400
undermines opportunity for all

2554
01:32:32,752 --> 01:32:35,000
bay area residents as well as

2555
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,168
diversity and inclusivity in our

2556
01:32:37,168 --> 01:32:39,126
region. Therefore we urge abag

2557
01:32:39,126 --> 01:32:41,710
to consider the small but

2558
01:32:41,710 --> 01:32:43,335
meaningful equity adjustment

2559
01:32:43,335 --> 01:32:45,000
which would allocate a small

2560
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,710
number of low income homes to

2561
01:32:46,710 --> 01:32:48,293
ensure there are ample

2562
01:32:48,293 --> 01:32:50,840
opportunities across the region

2563
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,684
at all income levels of the

2564
01:32:55,460 --> 01:32:58,585
finally we urge abag to reject

2565
01:32:58,585 --> 01:33:00,840
alternatives to the baseline as

2566
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,484
others have mentioned performing

2567
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:05,376
overwhelmingly well in the last

2568
01:33:05,376 --> 01:33:07,710
performance metrics and put the

2569
01:33:07,710 --> 01:33:09,335
region in jeopardy of not

2570
01:33:09,335 --> 01:33:11,335
meeting statutory compliance.

2571
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,501
finally there are objectives in

2572
01:33:14,501 --> 01:33:16,335
the rhna process that will be

2573
01:33:16,335 --> 01:33:17,501
advanced through the local

2574
01:33:17,501 --> 01:33:19,168
housing element update and we

2575
01:33:19,168 --> 01:33:21,000
look forward to working with

2576
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,000
partners to engage in this work

2577
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,000
as it moves forward over time.

2578
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:27,793
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2579
01:33:27,793 --> 01:33:28,126
you very much.

2580
01:33:28,126 --> 01:33:28,919
>>clerk of the board: next

2581
01:33:28,919 --> 01:33:31,919
speaker is zarina. Go ahead.

2582
01:33:33,126 --> 01:33:37,000
>>speaker: hi. I am -- I echo

2583
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,376
what aaron of greenbelt

2584
01:33:39,376 --> 01:33:41,776
alliance, shajuti and justine

2585
01:33:42,710 --> 01:33:45,710
marcus stated earlier I strongly

2586
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:50,100
support abag option 8a using

2587
01:33:51,835 --> 01:33:53,835
2050 household baseline but

2588
01:33:53,919 --> 01:33:55,000
methodology needs to go further

2589
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,400
and basically deal with

2590
01:33:57,460 --> 01:33:59,418
affirmatively furthering fair

2591
01:33:59,418 --> 01:34:02,000
housing this will move us to a

2592
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,251
closer and prosperous region

2593
01:34:03,251 --> 01:34:05,877
where all residents are where

2594
01:34:05,877 --> 01:34:07,210
they're working and living in

2595
01:34:07,210 --> 01:34:09,335
the same place and with access,

2596
01:34:09,335 --> 01:34:10,418
equity and access to

2597
01:34:10,418 --> 01:34:12,000
environmental economic and

2598
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,430
educational opportunities.

2599
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:15,752
option 8a performs well on all

2600
01:34:15,752 --> 01:34:17,835
five rhna statutory objectives.

2601
01:34:17,835 --> 01:34:19,919
this methodology with equity

2602
01:34:19,919 --> 01:34:21,585
adjustment will help our region

2603
01:34:21,585 --> 01:34:23,251
reduce our commutes improve our

2604
01:34:23,251 --> 01:34:25,651
environment and ensure every

2605
01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:29,335
resident has a stable home they

2606
01:34:29,335 --> 01:34:31,293
can afford. Jobs proximity

2607
01:34:31,293 --> 01:34:33,251
factor in planned bay area

2608
01:34:33,251 --> 01:34:35,651
household baseline ensures our

2609
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,919
homes are closer to all kinds of

2610
01:34:37,919 --> 01:34:39,752
jobs. Each day thousands of

2611
01:34:39,752 --> 01:34:41,126
people commute to contra costa

2612
01:34:41,126 --> 01:34:42,877
county for work which means we

2613
01:34:42,877 --> 01:34:45,000
still need more homes for

2614
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,627
clayton. And clayton has a lot

2615
01:34:46,627 --> 01:34:48,793
of open spaces I'm not saying to

2616
01:34:48,793 --> 01:34:50,000
go ahead and build everywhere

2617
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,418
that you can find, but if they

2618
01:34:51,418 --> 01:34:52,919
have to rezone for affordable

2619
01:34:52,919 --> 01:34:54,543
housing, they have to do their

2620
01:34:54,543 --> 01:34:56,376
fair share for housing. Access

2621
01:34:56,376 --> 01:34:58,776
to opportunities, allocates more

2622
01:34:58,877 --> 01:35:00,376
homes in places with high

2623
01:35:00,376 --> 01:35:02,776
quality jobs, schools, and

2624
01:35:02,835 --> 01:35:03,585
environment.

2625
01:35:03,585 --> 01:35:06,835
I strongly urge abag to reject

2626
01:35:06,835 --> 01:35:08,100
alternatives such as changing

2627
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,376
the baseline that performs worse

2628
01:35:10,376 --> 01:35:12,376
on statutory objectives

2629
01:35:12,501 --> 01:35:15,840
performance matrix. If there is

2630
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,877
any adjustment it has to be to

2631
01:35:16,877 --> 01:35:19,277
make it more equitable,

2632
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,335
basically affirmatively

2633
01:35:21,335 --> 01:35:23,251
furthering fair housing. And

2634
01:35:23,251 --> 01:35:24,793
thank you for your time. And I

2635
01:35:24,793 --> 01:35:28,393
am just tired of seeing the

2636
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,000
nimbys coming and putting up,

2637
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,168
lay over, lay over, we are in a

2638
01:35:33,168 --> 01:35:36,768
housing crisis. We are where we

2639
01:35:36,877 --> 01:35:40,000
are because of the nimbys if not

2640
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,000
for them we wouldn't be forced

2641
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,585
to build 40,000 homes. We have

2642
01:35:44,585 --> 01:35:46,000
crisis and pandemic. When are

2643
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,668
you guys going to wake up? The

2644
01:35:49,668 --> 01:35:52,000
nimbys. I am tired of the

2645
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,126
elected's starting the

2646
01:35:53,126 --> 01:35:54,585
conversation that we can't have

2647
01:35:54,585 --> 01:35:56,376
it because if there is an I

2648
01:35:56,376 --> 01:35:59,976
fire. There is going to be

2649
01:36:01,376 --> 01:36:02,960
exception for groups in the fire

2650
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,000
zones, places that cannot be

2651
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,000
built, that's logical. Right.

2652
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,877
but we need to make houses for

2653
01:36:08,877 --> 01:36:11,627
people and they have to be close

2654
01:36:11,627 --> 01:36:14,627
to jobs. Quality of life.

2655
01:36:14,919 --> 01:36:16,000
thank you.

2656
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:16,793
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2657
01:36:16,793 --> 01:36:18,376
you.

2658
01:36:18,376 --> 01:36:19,100
>>clerk of the board: victoria

2659
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:21,100
fierce. Go ahead.

2660
01:36:24,418 --> 01:36:26,126
>>speaker: I live in downtown

2661
01:36:26,126 --> 01:36:28,335
oakland. I am a former member

2662
01:36:28,335 --> 01:36:30,335
of hmc housing methodology

2663
01:36:30,335 --> 01:36:31,919
committee and the person who

2664
01:36:31,919 --> 01:36:34,585
actually made the motion for 8a,

2665
01:36:34,585 --> 01:36:36,210
the proposal before you now.

2666
01:36:36,210 --> 01:36:39,460
you also know me from previous

2667
01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:43,600
films such as carlos versus los

2668
01:36:43,668 --> 01:36:47,268
altos where we beat them up.

2669
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,000
it's quite boring at this point

2670
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,000
and we don't have time to play

2671
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,126
such games. I agree with what

2672
01:36:59,126 --> 01:37:03,326
zarin just said I'm tired of the

2673
01:37:03,668 --> 01:37:05,418
nimbys I'm tired of them saying

2674
01:37:05,418 --> 01:37:07,000
we want to do something about

2675
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,335
housing then there is an idea,

2676
01:37:10,335 --> 01:37:14,000
then deciding not to do it. A

2677
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,627
eight is the best solution we

2678
01:37:15,627 --> 01:37:18,126
spent a year surviving through

2679
01:37:18,126 --> 01:37:20,000
the pandemic to get this before

2680
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,460
you. Please don't make all that

2681
01:37:22,460 --> 01:37:24,627
go to waste. The thing about

2682
01:37:24,627 --> 01:37:26,919
rhna is it establishes minimums

2683
01:37:26,919 --> 01:37:29,000
for cities and if we want to end

2684
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,840
the housing crisis we are

2685
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,484
setting an aspirational goal,

2686
01:37:34,168 --> 01:37:36,418
and if people think the numbers

2687
01:37:36,418 --> 01:37:38,430
are too high you should have

2688
01:37:38,430 --> 01:37:39,000
thought about building more

2689
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,100
housing in the last 20 years

2690
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,430
unfortunately that's not the

2691
01:37:42,430 --> 01:37:44,335
case. So we have this plan in

2692
01:37:44,335 --> 01:37:46,100
front of us. This the bay area,

2693
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:48,100
we built the internet and put

2694
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,460
people on the moon we can solve

2695
01:37:49,460 --> 01:37:52,627
this problem of the human rights

2696
01:37:52,627 --> 01:37:56,227
housing. I support 8a. It's a

2697
01:37:56,251 --> 01:37:58,418
great idea. Of course it is I'm

2698
01:37:58,418 --> 01:38:00,376
asking you to be bold and take a

2699
01:38:00,376 --> 01:38:02,210
step solving the crisis don't do

2700
01:38:02,210 --> 01:38:05,210
this backing off because you're

2701
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,668
terrified of tall buildings.

2702
01:38:09,668 --> 01:38:11,168
it's fine. I live in a three

2703
01:38:11,168 --> 01:38:13,251
story building. Thank you.

2704
01:38:13,251 --> 01:38:14,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: next

2705
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,752
speaker.

2706
01:38:15,752 --> 01:38:16,293
>>clerk of the board: next

2707
01:38:16,293 --> 01:38:18,293
speaker kelsey banes.

2708
01:38:18,710 --> 01:38:20,251
>>speaker: I am kelsey banes

2709
01:38:20,251 --> 01:38:22,651
regional executive director with

2710
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,210
yimby action. Peninsula group

2711
01:38:27,210 --> 01:38:30,210
for everyone prohousing. I want

2712
01:38:31,793 --> 01:38:34,000
to thank hmc for all their work

2713
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,752
and coming to a compromise that

2714
01:38:35,752 --> 01:38:39,352
will help us grow in a

2715
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,418
sustainable and equity way in

2716
01:38:41,418 --> 01:38:43,168
the future. I support the

2717
01:38:43,168 --> 01:38:45,840
compromise but will associate

2718
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,460
myself also with the comment

2719
01:38:46,460 --> 01:38:49,710
errs that are urging to do an

2720
01:38:49,710 --> 01:38:51,430
equity adjustment because I do

2721
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:54,430
think this plan could be

2722
01:38:54,126 --> 01:38:56,835
improved in terms of where the

2723
01:38:56,835 --> 01:38:59,000
allocations are going and making

2724
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,400
sure we are affirmatively

2725
01:39:01,877 --> 01:39:03,835
furthering fair housing. But I

2726
01:39:03,835 --> 01:39:06,251
will also accept what we have as

2727
01:39:06,251 --> 01:39:08,710
a compromise if necessary. So

2728
01:39:08,710 --> 01:39:10,335
I'm also going to speak as a

2729
01:39:10,335 --> 01:39:13,210
resident of palo alto. We have

2730
01:39:13,210 --> 01:39:16,376
had a lot of our local

2731
01:39:16,376 --> 01:39:18,126
elected's, and some of my

2732
01:39:18,126 --> 01:39:20,000
neighbors saying that we

2733
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:20,877
couldn't possibly build this

2734
01:39:20,877 --> 01:39:24,168
many homes. And, to me, when I

2735
01:39:24,168 --> 01:39:25,627
hear that, it's a little bit

2736
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:27,460
like we have tried nothing, and

2737
01:39:27,460 --> 01:39:29,126
we're all out of ideas because I

2738
01:39:29,126 --> 01:39:31,460
have been watching palo alto

2739
01:39:31,460 --> 01:39:33,877
politics for several years now,

2740
01:39:33,877 --> 01:39:36,418
and I haven't seen palo alto

2741
01:39:36,418 --> 01:39:39,418
take much many meaningful steps

2742
01:39:41,627 --> 01:39:44,000
to protect housing production,

2743
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,400
tenants or preserve existing

2744
01:39:47,877 --> 01:39:49,100
housing. I believe we have a

2745
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:50,501
lot of work to do but I believe

2746
01:39:50,501 --> 01:39:52,960
we can do it and it's just pay

2747
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,251
matter of doing the work and

2748
01:39:54,251 --> 01:39:56,000
locating the sites, and we can

2749
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,668
absolutely accomplish building

2750
01:39:57,668 --> 01:40:00,543
more housing on the peninsula.

2751
01:40:00,543 --> 01:40:04,000
this is not app impossible task.

2752
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:04,793
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2753
01:40:04,793 --> 01:40:06,000
you.

2754
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:06,752
>>clerk of the board: next

2755
01:40:06,752 --> 01:40:09,152
speaker is hector malvido.

2756
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,100
>>speaker: can you hear me?

2757
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:18,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: yes.

2758
01:40:18,877 --> 01:40:20,000
>>speaker: I want to thank,

2759
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,335
everyone, staff, rhna folks for

2760
01:40:22,335 --> 01:40:24,000
working so hard on this. And

2761
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,600
also, to my colleagues at home

2762
01:40:28,668 --> 01:40:30,710
and others for really supporting

2763
01:40:30,710 --> 01:40:32,752
option a, the rhna methodology,

2764
01:40:32,752 --> 01:40:34,835
but also calling for the equity

2765
01:40:34,835 --> 01:40:36,335
adjustment. It's so necessary

2766
01:40:36,335 --> 01:40:38,735
to improve this methodology's

2767
01:40:39,293 --> 01:40:41,693
performance and in furthering

2768
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:43,752
fair housing objectives. We

2769
01:40:43,752 --> 01:40:45,100
need to ensure that we're

2770
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:46,100
considering the entire bay area

2771
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:48,543
in this process including the 17

2772
01:40:48,543 --> 01:40:49,877
jurisdictions that are under the

2773
01:40:49,877 --> 01:40:51,877
current proposed methodology

2774
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:55,168
that without adjustment would

2775
01:40:55,168 --> 01:40:57,668
not receive their proportion at

2776
01:40:57,668 --> 01:40:59,460
share of very low and low income

2777
01:40:59,460 --> 01:41:01,000
allocation. The bay area

2778
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,710
residents have access to high

2779
01:41:02,710 --> 01:41:03,710
opportunity areas and

2780
01:41:03,710 --> 01:41:05,000
jurisdictions which would

2781
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,000
provide high quality education

2782
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,000
and environmental opportunity.

2783
01:41:09,460 --> 01:41:11,251
newly allocated hopeless would

2784
01:41:11,251 --> 01:41:12,919
be allocated to jurisdictions

2785
01:41:12,919 --> 01:41:15,919
with adequate jobs and schools

2786
01:41:17,501 --> 01:41:19,901
and minimum pollution. Ensuring

2787
01:41:20,251 --> 01:41:23,000
bright equitable futures for all

2788
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,251
residents. Currently many of

2789
01:41:25,251 --> 01:41:27,651
our jurisdictions have severely

2790
01:41:27,752 --> 01:41:30,840
unbalanced jobs/housing fit.

2791
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,126
it's crucial in the wake of

2792
01:41:32,126 --> 01:41:35,126
covid-19 pandemic has laid bare

2793
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:41,601
many of the inequities. We have

2794
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:43,710
driven a policy that makes sense

2795
01:41:43,710 --> 01:41:46,110
is inclusive and transformative.

2796
01:41:46,293 --> 01:41:48,000
thank you for your time.

2797
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:48,752
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2798
01:41:48,752 --> 01:41:49,100
you.

2799
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:49,835
>>clerk of the board: next

2800
01:41:49,835 --> 01:41:53,435
speaker is ken chan. Go ahead.

2801
01:41:59,840 --> 01:41:59,960
>>karen mitchoff, chair: you're

2802
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:01,960
on mute.

2803
01:42:02,376 --> 01:42:03,376
>>speaker: can you hear me?

2804
01:42:03,376 --> 01:42:04,460
>>karen mitchoff, chair: yes.

2805
01:42:04,460 --> 01:42:05,585
>>speaker: hello members of the

2806
01:42:05,585 --> 01:42:07,668
abag planning committee. Thank

2807
01:42:07,668 --> 01:42:09,960
you for your participating as we

2808
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,376
endure this pandemic together.

2809
01:42:11,376 --> 01:42:14,000
my name is ken chan. And I am a

2810
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,000
housing advocate with san mateo

2811
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,543
we work to preserve quality and

2812
01:42:18,543 --> 01:42:20,210
affordable housing. We would

2813
01:42:20,210 --> 01:42:22,000
like to echo what has been

2814
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,400
previously mentioned today and

2815
01:42:24,585 --> 01:42:26,430
voice support for rhna

2816
01:42:26,430 --> 01:42:28,443
methodology 8a using plan 2050

2817
01:42:32,126 --> 01:42:34,000
household baseline however could

2818
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,793
be refined with equity

2819
01:42:35,793 --> 01:42:38,100
adjustment to fully meet the

2820
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:40,401
statutory equity objectives for

2821
01:42:44,543 --> 01:42:46,100
affirmatively furthering fair

2822
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:49,601
housing. It is the people that

2823
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,000
make this region what it is in

2824
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,000
the long run nobody thrives if

2825
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,000
we price out our children who

2826
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,335
have the talent to strengthen

2827
01:42:59,335 --> 01:43:02,335
our businesses. No one thrives

2828
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,710
if families struggle to put a

2829
01:43:08,710 --> 01:43:11,418
roof over their heads and

2830
01:43:11,418 --> 01:43:14,418
parents can't provide roof over

2831
01:43:18,168 --> 01:43:20,840
the heads of their children. We

2832
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,460
urge you to support option 8a

2833
01:43:23,460 --> 01:43:25,860
with a methodology adjustment.

2834
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,600
we urge you to reject the

2835
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:34,752
alternatives to change the

2836
01:43:34,752 --> 01:43:36,752
baseline.

2837
01:43:37,251 --> 01:43:39,100
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2838
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:40,710
you mr. Chan.

2839
01:43:40,710 --> 01:43:41,251
>>clerk of the board: next

2840
01:43:41,251 --> 01:43:43,651
speaker is vicki parker.

2841
01:43:52,376 --> 01:43:54,293
unmute yourself please.

2842
01:43:54,293 --> 01:43:55,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: you

2843
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,100
there are. Thank you.

2844
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:57,585
>>speaker: vicki parker

2845
01:43:57,585 --> 01:43:59,430
community development director

2846
01:43:59,430 --> 01:44:01,335
for the city of novato. I want

2847
01:44:01,335 --> 01:44:04,126
to, as many other speakers, have

2848
01:44:04,126 --> 01:44:06,430
acknowledged the complexity and

2849
01:44:06,430 --> 01:44:07,877
difficulty of the task, in the

2850
01:44:07,877 --> 01:44:10,877
enormous amount of effort that

2851
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,168
abag staff and the hmc have put

2852
01:44:13,168 --> 01:44:14,210
into development of the

2853
01:44:14,210 --> 01:44:16,919
methodology. I also want to say

2854
01:44:16,919 --> 01:44:18,668
that we generally support the

2855
01:44:18,668 --> 01:44:20,793
goals and the methodology, and

2856
01:44:20,793 --> 01:44:23,752
especially the focus on regional

2857
01:44:23,752 --> 01:44:26,752
equity. We agree with comments,

2858
01:44:27,627 --> 01:44:29,919
however, by several other

2859
01:44:29,919 --> 01:44:32,919
speakers, that we think the -- a

2860
01:44:32,919 --> 01:44:34,752
focus on natural hazards and

2861
01:44:34,752 --> 01:44:36,418
other regulatory constraints

2862
01:44:36,418 --> 01:44:38,668
when looking at land inventories

2863
01:44:38,668 --> 01:44:41,000
needs to be better acknowledged.

2864
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,752
and we have some suggestions for

2865
01:44:42,752 --> 01:44:44,752
that, that we have put into our

2866
01:44:44,752 --> 01:44:47,152
letter. Specifically, though, I

2867
01:44:48,335 --> 01:44:50,000
want to focus on one thing, and

2868
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,501
that is, our city's concern is

2869
01:44:53,501 --> 01:44:56,000
that the use of 2050 future

2870
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,000
households as the baseline does

2871
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,000
not acknowledge the realities of

2872
01:45:01,418 --> 01:45:03,168
missing or inadequate

2873
01:45:03,168 --> 01:45:04,960
infrastructure. By that, I

2874
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,360
mean, water, sewer, streets,

2875
01:45:07,460 --> 01:45:09,960
storm drains, using this future

2876
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,627
number, we feel escalates the

2877
01:45:12,627 --> 01:45:16,227
growth far more quickly than our

2878
01:45:18,460 --> 01:45:20,752
capital budgets and programs can

2879
01:45:20,752 --> 01:45:23,000
keep pace with and we fully

2880
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,000
knowledge this may be hard for

2881
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,840
some folks to understand if

2882
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,100
you're not on the front lines of

2883
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,251
small city budgeting and

2884
01:45:29,251 --> 01:45:31,210
priority setting. It doesn't

2885
01:45:31,210 --> 01:45:32,960
necessarily make sense to folks.

2886
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,418
but, our draft numbers mean that

2887
01:45:36,418 --> 01:45:38,835
we would be asked to provide two

2888
01:45:38,835 --> 01:45:42,000
and a half times our total, 15

2889
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,210
year build-out, and we would be

2890
01:45:44,210 --> 01:45:46,168
asked to produce it in eight

2891
01:45:46,168 --> 01:45:49,335
years, so half of the time. So

2892
01:45:49,335 --> 01:45:51,585
that may put it in some

2893
01:45:51,585 --> 01:45:53,985
perspective that that's really

2894
01:45:54,168 --> 01:45:55,919
unrealistic to think that

2895
01:45:55,919 --> 01:45:57,627
jurisdictions can produce

2896
01:45:57,627 --> 01:46:00,270
additional revenues to push

2897
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,000
capital projects forward at

2898
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,000
double the pace. We simply

2899
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,000
don't have the ability to

2900
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,000
produce new revenues. We feel

2901
01:46:09,835 --> 01:46:12,835
like use of 2050 households as

2902
01:46:12,835 --> 01:46:15,168
the baseline sets us up to fail

2903
01:46:15,168 --> 01:46:17,840
and we respectfully request that

2904
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,840
the methodology, instead,

2905
01:46:19,251 --> 01:46:21,651
utilize 2050 household growth as

2906
01:46:22,251 --> 01:46:25,851
that baseline. As its been said

2907
01:46:28,418 --> 01:46:30,501
by many others, none of the

2908
01:46:30,501 --> 01:46:31,877
methodologies are perfect. We

2909
01:46:31,877 --> 01:46:33,752
also agree that everyone has to

2910
01:46:33,752 --> 01:46:35,335
do their part, and we're happy

2911
01:46:35,335 --> 01:46:37,543
to do our part. However, use of

2912
01:46:37,543 --> 01:46:39,752
growth rates instead of future

2913
01:46:39,752 --> 01:46:41,752
households as the baseline would

2914
01:46:41,752 --> 01:46:44,251
allocate rhna at rates that are

2915
01:46:44,251 --> 01:46:45,000
consistent with planned bay

2916
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,000
area.

2917
01:46:49,293 --> 01:46:50,000
>>clerk of the board: thank

2918
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,600
you. Our next speaker is sidhar

2919
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,960
kapur. Go ahead.

2920
01:47:00,668 --> 01:47:04,126
>>speaker: hi. My name is syd

2921
01:47:04,126 --> 01:47:06,840
kapur. I live in oakland and

2922
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:07,877
volunteer with yimby action. I

2923
01:47:07,877 --> 01:47:10,000
am here again after several

2924
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,840
meetings of this to again say I

2925
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,251
support the 8a proposed

2926
01:47:14,251 --> 01:47:16,126
methodology. I would also

2927
01:47:16,126 --> 01:47:17,877
support an adjustment of

2928
01:47:17,877 --> 01:47:20,000
targeted adjustments of housing

2929
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,835
relief from unincorporated areas

2930
01:47:21,835 --> 01:47:24,235
and the inequity adjustments

2931
01:47:26,835 --> 01:47:29,543
proposed by others. So far this

2932
01:47:29,543 --> 01:47:31,000
is the proposed methodology is

2933
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,600
really good. It has all the

2934
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,000
metrics we all want to meet, and

2935
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,960
there is no reason to delay this

2936
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,460
decision any more. All right.

2937
01:47:41,460 --> 01:47:43,460
thank you.

2938
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:45,668
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2939
01:47:45,668 --> 01:47:46,000
you.

2940
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:46,543
>>clerk of the board: next

2941
01:47:46,543 --> 01:47:48,335
speaker is jordan grimes. Go

2942
01:47:48,335 --> 01:47:50,335
ahead.

2943
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,000
unmute yourself, please.

2944
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,000
>>speaker: yes. Good

2945
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,335
afternoon. My name is jordan

2946
01:48:02,335 --> 01:48:04,126
grimes a lead member of

2947
01:48:04,126 --> 01:48:06,168
peninsula for everyone. We're a

2948
01:48:06,168 --> 01:48:08,168
grassroots housing advocacy

2949
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,627
group from daly city to

2950
01:48:11,627 --> 01:48:13,418
sunnyvale here to reiterate our

2951
01:48:13,418 --> 01:48:15,919
strong support for option 8a.

2952
01:48:15,919 --> 01:48:18,319
our members participated in

2953
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,840
housing methodology committee

2954
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,000
meetings and are impressed by

2955
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,600
hmc and staff, mostly people who

2956
01:48:31,168 --> 01:48:33,543
participate in these meetings

2957
01:48:33,543 --> 01:48:35,752
are affluent, white, and older.

2958
01:48:35,752 --> 01:48:38,752
option 8a provides compromise on

2959
01:48:41,585 --> 01:48:44,100
the housing and urban sprawl. I

2960
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,627
want to support comment in

2961
01:48:45,627 --> 01:48:46,543
support of the equity

2962
01:48:46,543 --> 01:48:47,919
adjustment. To the other

2963
01:48:47,919 --> 01:48:49,460
comments no one's being setup to

2964
01:48:49,460 --> 01:48:51,793
fail here. Literally every city

2965
01:48:51,793 --> 01:48:53,335
can meet their targets if they

2966
01:48:53,335 --> 01:48:55,000
meet the appropriate zoning

2967
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:56,840
permitting and process changes.

2968
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,293
it's on them to do so. And then

2969
01:48:58,293 --> 01:49:01,627
just one last thing I would like

2970
01:49:01,627 --> 01:49:03,710
to note. I have heard it

2971
01:49:03,710 --> 01:49:04,919
repeatedly and tired of hearing

2972
01:49:04,919 --> 01:49:07,000
it. Having a certified housing

2973
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,627
element doesn't mean you're

2974
01:49:08,627 --> 01:49:11,000
building your fair share of

2975
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,877
housing it means you're having

2976
01:49:12,877 --> 01:49:14,919
to jump through a specific

2977
01:49:14,919 --> 01:49:17,919
bureaucracy hoop. We have built

2978
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:21,835
2,000 units of housing over the

2979
01:49:21,835 --> 01:49:24,418
last decade and adding more than

2980
01:49:24,418 --> 01:49:26,835
20,000 jobs in the same time

2981
01:49:26,835 --> 01:49:28,168
frame both have certified

2982
01:49:28,168 --> 01:49:30,251
housing elements and far too

2983
01:49:30,251 --> 01:49:32,000
many in other cities have

2984
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,627
housing ratios. I cannot

2985
01:49:33,627 --> 01:49:36,168
imagine anyone who would not

2986
01:49:36,168 --> 01:49:38,919
agree to do their fair share.

2987
01:49:38,919 --> 01:49:39,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

2988
01:49:39,543 --> 01:49:39,877
you.

2989
01:49:39,877 --> 01:49:40,418
>>clerk of the board: next

2990
01:49:40,418 --> 01:49:42,418
speaker is salim.

2991
01:49:42,543 --> 01:49:45,000
>>speaker: hi. I'm salim, a

2992
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,000
bay area native and supportive

2993
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,168
of california yimby. I support

2994
01:49:49,168 --> 01:49:51,835
the 8a methodology for targeted

2995
01:49:51,835 --> 01:49:53,000
adjustments for unincorporated

2996
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,000
areas I am supported of

2997
01:49:56,126 --> 01:49:58,376
adjustments for equity concerns.

2998
01:49:58,376 --> 01:50:01,376
so, no one's perfectly happy

2999
01:50:04,501 --> 01:50:06,585
with the proposal. It's not

3000
01:50:06,585 --> 01:50:08,985
perfect. Trying to find

3001
01:50:09,210 --> 01:50:10,376
something that works for

3002
01:50:10,376 --> 01:50:12,776
everybody. I understand some

3003
01:50:14,835 --> 01:50:16,752
neighborhoods are not perfectly

3004
01:50:16,752 --> 01:50:18,000
satisfied with what's on the

3005
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,543
table but I feel it's good with

3006
01:50:21,543 --> 01:50:23,501
as much work that's gone into

3007
01:50:23,501 --> 01:50:26,376
it, I have heard rhna numbers

3008
01:50:26,376 --> 01:50:29,000
are too large or unfeasible.

3009
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,793
you have to keep in mind it has

3010
01:50:30,793 --> 01:50:34,293
to match scale of the problem.

3011
01:50:34,293 --> 01:50:35,919
climate change is going to be

3012
01:50:35,919 --> 01:50:37,376
one of the defining problems of

3013
01:50:37,376 --> 01:50:39,627
our generation we're the first

3014
01:50:39,627 --> 01:50:41,100
generation that can see the

3015
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,418
crippling effects of climate

3016
01:50:42,418 --> 01:50:44,840
change with the forest fires and

3017
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:45,877
we're the last generation that

3018
01:50:45,877 --> 01:50:47,251
can do something about it.

3019
01:50:47,251 --> 01:50:48,460
building more housing where

3020
01:50:48,460 --> 01:50:50,430
there are jobs, building more

3021
01:50:50,430 --> 01:50:52,000
housing in infill areas instead

3022
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,000
of creating more sprawl, those

3023
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:56,376
are all important goals, and the

3024
01:50:56,376 --> 01:50:59,000
other crisis that, you know, we

3025
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,000
have to meet is the housing

3026
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,126
crisis.

3027
01:51:02,126 --> 01:51:06,326
so, I am part of a younger

3028
01:51:06,418 --> 01:51:08,430
generation than I think maybe

3029
01:51:08,430 --> 01:51:10,000
the majority of people on the

3030
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,585
call, and if I think about my

3031
01:51:11,585 --> 01:51:12,877
friends, you know, the

3032
01:51:12,877 --> 01:51:14,840
majorities of them have either

3033
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:16,418
moved back in with their family

3034
01:51:16,418 --> 01:51:18,000
after college or they have moved

3035
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:19,293
to an area that's more

3036
01:51:19,293 --> 01:51:21,126
affordable. They have had to

3037
01:51:21,126 --> 01:51:23,126
leave the bay area. It's not

3038
01:51:23,126 --> 01:51:24,335
sustainable. The bay area has

3039
01:51:24,335 --> 01:51:27,935
to be inhabitable for our own

3040
01:51:29,627 --> 01:51:31,000
children otherwise they're not

3041
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,585
going to be able to enjoy the

3042
01:51:32,585 --> 01:51:34,100
same quality of life that we

3043
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:37,000
have. I hope that when towns

3044
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,000
find themselves disappoints they

3045
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,000
will keep this in mind that it

3046
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,835
will help with their climate

3047
01:51:42,835 --> 01:51:44,752
action plan and help them

3048
01:51:44,752 --> 01:51:45,960
keeping their own children in

3049
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,000
their community and the benefits

3050
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,000
outweigh the costs. Thank you.

3051
01:51:50,919 --> 01:51:51,543
>>clerk of the board: our next

3052
01:51:51,543 --> 01:51:54,543
speaker is daryl owens, go

3053
01:51:56,585 --> 01:51:58,000
ahead.

3054
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,400
>>speaker: yes. I'm daryl

3055
01:52:00,835 --> 01:52:03,235
owens from berkeley, california.

3056
01:52:03,376 --> 01:52:06,835
I want to say I support 8a. I

3057
01:52:06,835 --> 01:52:08,000
hope this is the last time I

3058
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,000
have to call in and say I'm in

3059
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,793
support of 8a. I support any

3060
01:52:12,793 --> 01:52:13,877
methodology changes that shift

3061
01:52:13,877 --> 01:52:16,100
more of the housing closer to

3062
01:52:16,100 --> 01:52:20,201
the west bay and shift out of

3063
01:52:20,210 --> 01:52:21,627
unincorporated areas. I think

3064
01:52:21,627 --> 01:52:24,627
it's important from an equity

3065
01:52:26,210 --> 01:52:27,668
standpoint and feasibility

3066
01:52:27,668 --> 01:52:30,680
standpoint. Demand is highest

3067
01:52:32,752 --> 01:52:35,000
and if you want allocation to

3068
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,543
materialize you want to put it

3069
01:52:36,543 --> 01:52:40,743
in place where is demand is pent

3070
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,335
up. You do not want it to be

3071
01:52:44,335 --> 01:52:46,919
sitting there and unbuilt. I

3072
01:52:46,919 --> 01:52:48,919
support item 8a.

3073
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:49,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3074
01:52:49,877 --> 01:52:50,000
you.

3075
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:50,752
>>clerk of the board: next

3076
01:52:50,752 --> 01:52:53,752
speaker is rayla graber, go

3077
01:52:55,501 --> 01:52:57,501
ahead.

3078
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,460
>>speaker: okay. I would just

3079
01:53:01,460 --> 01:53:03,210
like to add my support to a

3080
01:53:03,210 --> 01:53:06,210
prior speaker, paul foreman, and

3081
01:53:06,210 --> 01:53:08,293
his comments regarding alameda

3082
01:53:08,293 --> 01:53:11,293
and some of its special

3083
01:53:13,919 --> 01:53:15,501
characteristics should be taken

3084
01:53:15,501 --> 01:53:17,418
into account when figuring the

3085
01:53:17,418 --> 01:53:19,418
rhna figures. But I want to

3086
01:53:19,418 --> 01:53:22,418
finish mr. Edward singh's letter

3087
01:53:23,627 --> 01:53:25,418
they started reading previously.

3088
01:53:25,418 --> 01:53:27,818
I'll just finish t.

3089
01:53:29,793 --> 01:53:33,000
mr. Singh from alameda said the

3090
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,000
rhna requirements stress

3091
01:53:39,543 --> 01:53:41,877
proximity to major city center

3092
01:53:41,877 --> 01:53:45,000
this might have been a fact pre

3093
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:46,501
covid but now it demonstrates

3094
01:53:46,501 --> 01:53:49,293
the need for telecommute working

3095
01:53:49,293 --> 01:53:51,693
has greatly decreased the

3096
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,668
opportunity for major city

3097
01:53:53,668 --> 01:53:55,668
centers and will inevitably

3098
01:53:55,668 --> 01:53:57,543
create a need for more jobs in

3099
01:53:57,543 --> 01:53:58,585
professional and service

3100
01:53:58,585 --> 01:54:00,430
industries in more outlying

3101
01:54:00,430 --> 01:54:02,430
cities. Such changing

3102
01:54:02,251 --> 01:54:04,168
employment and housing needed

3103
01:54:04,168 --> 01:54:06,168
characteristic should be

3104
01:54:06,251 --> 01:54:07,668
reflected in the process of

3105
01:54:07,668 --> 01:54:09,418
determining rhna requirements

3106
01:54:09,418 --> 01:54:12,418
for bay area cities. Even

3107
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,000
discounting potential changes in

3108
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,000
employment centers due to covid,

3109
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,543
giving more weight to proximity

3110
01:54:19,543 --> 01:54:22,210
to major business centers is

3111
01:54:22,210 --> 01:54:25,210
somewhat tenuous as pre covid

3112
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,400
over 400,000 commuters use mass

3113
01:54:30,877 --> 01:54:32,668
transit to commute from outlying

3114
01:54:32,668 --> 01:54:34,840
cities into the major business

3115
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,840
centers.

3116
01:54:37,877 --> 01:54:41,477
mr. Singh finishes by saying, I

3117
01:54:41,501 --> 01:54:43,840
fully support the concept of

3118
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,627
social equity, however I ask

3119
01:54:45,627 --> 01:54:48,627
that you consider paul foreman's

3120
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,000
and my concerns and viewpoints

3121
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:54,430
regarding the proposed rhna

3122
01:54:54,430 --> 01:54:56,000
requirements for alameda, the

3123
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,627
city of. Thank you.

3124
01:54:57,627 --> 01:54:58,251
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3125
01:54:58,251 --> 01:54:59,418
you.

3126
01:54:59,418 --> 01:55:00,418
>>clerk of the board: the next

3127
01:55:00,418 --> 01:55:03,418
speaker is sam deutsche. Go

3128
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,126
ahead.

3129
01:55:05,126 --> 01:55:07,000
>>speaker: hi my name is sam,

3130
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,100
and I am a san francisco

3131
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:11,000
resident and also a member of

3132
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,335
yimby action. And I am calling

3133
01:55:12,335 --> 01:55:15,000
to support the hmc methodology,

3134
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,400
and furthermore support the

3135
01:55:18,501 --> 01:55:20,901
equity and unincorporated area

3136
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,585
adjustments as well. I mean, we

3137
01:55:24,585 --> 01:55:26,840
have had so many of these

3138
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:27,335
meetings already, and I have

3139
01:55:27,335 --> 01:55:29,752
already voiced my support for,

3140
01:55:29,752 --> 01:55:31,418
you know, putting more housing

3141
01:55:31,418 --> 01:55:34,668
in places that are after fluent,

3142
01:55:34,668 --> 01:55:36,752
have good transit, have good

3143
01:55:36,752 --> 01:55:38,710
climate, and are lower density

3144
01:55:38,710 --> 01:55:41,000
than they should be. But also I

3145
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:42,627
want to respond to a comment I

3146
01:55:42,627 --> 01:55:44,585
heard earlier about, oh, you

3147
01:55:44,585 --> 01:55:45,752
know, we don't have the

3148
01:55:45,752 --> 01:55:47,460
infrastructure for this, blah,

3149
01:55:47,460 --> 01:55:49,840
blah, blah, if you look at prop

3150
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,284
13, the fact that so much of our

3151
01:55:53,501 --> 01:55:55,752
housing stock was built so long

3152
01:55:55,752 --> 01:55:58,152
ago is artificially depressing

3153
01:56:00,376 --> 01:56:02,293
the amount of property tax that

3154
01:56:02,293 --> 01:56:04,840
could be collected is spent on

3155
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:05,210
infrastructure regardless of

3156
01:56:05,210 --> 01:56:07,000
prop 13 it's a reality we face

3157
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,000
and as a result the only way to

3158
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,430
adequately fund new

3159
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:12,293
infrastructure is to build a ton

3160
01:56:12,293 --> 01:56:14,460
of more new housing that is

3161
01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:16,000
assessed at market rate for

3162
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,960
taxing. So I find that to be an

3163
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,360
incredibly specious argument and

3164
01:56:21,501 --> 01:56:24,168
one that does not hold up to any

3165
01:56:24,168 --> 01:56:26,293
scrutiny, and yeah, just

3166
01:56:26,293 --> 01:56:27,501
reiterating my support for the

3167
01:56:27,501 --> 01:56:29,543
hmc methodology, and building

3168
01:56:29,543 --> 01:56:31,251
more housing in the bay area.

3169
01:56:31,251 --> 01:56:32,919
thank you.

3170
01:56:32,919 --> 01:56:33,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3171
01:56:33,543 --> 01:56:34,000
you.

3172
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:34,752
>>clerk of the board: next

3173
01:56:34,752 --> 01:56:35,168
speaker is kevin mah.

3174
01:56:35,168 --> 01:56:36,000
>>speaker: hello. My name is

3175
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:36,668
kevin mah. I am a resident of

3176
01:56:36,668 --> 01:56:40,268
palo alto in santa clara county.

3177
01:56:46,501 --> 01:56:48,840
I support hmc's proposal for 8a.

3178
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,684
it is done in a consensus

3179
01:56:54,210 --> 01:56:56,610
manner. The issue of

3180
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,168
unincorporated is a wide bucket

3181
01:57:03,168 --> 01:57:06,000
for many communities would like

3182
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,000
perhaps in the future to be

3183
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:09,585
broken down in designate the

3184
01:57:09,585 --> 01:57:13,185
places. In santa clara we have

3185
01:57:13,710 --> 01:57:15,627
coyote valley and creek which is

3186
01:57:15,627 --> 01:57:18,270
an unincorporated areas that

3187
01:57:18,418 --> 01:57:19,919
people would like to protect,

3188
01:57:19,919 --> 01:57:22,319
and other areas than

3189
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:26,100
unincorporated. There are

3190
01:57:26,627 --> 01:57:27,335
adjustments that need to be

3191
01:57:27,335 --> 01:57:29,376
done, and in the sense that we

3192
01:57:29,376 --> 01:57:30,919
should be furthering anything to

3193
01:57:30,919 --> 01:57:33,319
do with affirmatively furthering

3194
01:57:33,418 --> 01:57:35,877
fair housing. That being said I

3195
01:57:35,877 --> 01:57:37,668
also -- for all the speakers who

3196
01:57:37,668 --> 01:57:40,000
talk about, we can't build.

3197
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:44,200
we're till -- still in a housing

3198
01:57:45,100 --> 01:57:46,668
crisis and telework isn't going

3199
01:57:46,668 --> 01:57:50,430
to help those who are searching

3200
01:57:50,430 --> 01:57:52,000
for a job when their rent is

3201
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,000
still due. There are still

3202
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,000
quite a bit of people burdened

3203
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:01,600
that honestly is immoral for the

3204
01:58:03,668 --> 01:58:06,668
region we're living in. We

3205
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,430
should be building housing so

3206
01:58:08,430 --> 01:58:09,835
that everyone can have a decent

3207
01:58:09,835 --> 01:58:11,293
place to work and live rather

3208
01:58:11,293 --> 01:58:13,100
than just depending property

3209
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,501
values in the sense they just

3210
01:58:14,501 --> 01:58:16,000
don't like neighbors. Thank

3211
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,210
you.

3212
01:58:17,210 --> 01:58:18,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3213
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:18,501
you.

3214
01:58:18,501 --> 01:58:19,430
>>clerk of the board: next

3215
01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:22,643
speaker is sherry l jensen go

3216
01:58:24,501 --> 01:58:25,126
ahead.

3217
01:58:25,126 --> 01:58:27,526
>>speaker: hi. The allocation

3218
01:58:27,627 --> 01:58:30,270
of 2100 dwelling units to

3219
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,627
saratoga is made by people who

3220
01:58:32,627 --> 01:58:34,251
have not done the careful work

3221
01:58:34,251 --> 01:58:37,851
of planning and siting homes in

3222
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,793
our city. Half of saratoga

3223
01:58:40,793 --> 01:58:42,501
consists of steep hills with

3224
01:58:42,501 --> 01:58:44,901
extreme fire dangers, ongoing

3225
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,840
soil creep, slides fault zone

3226
01:58:49,835 --> 01:58:53,435
and rain fall compared to half

3227
01:58:55,168 --> 01:58:56,543
of the valley floor and the

3228
01:58:56,543 --> 01:58:59,627
other half, meaning we have to

3229
01:58:59,627 --> 01:59:02,270
recharge our aquifer. Unlike

3230
01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:04,251
san francisco in the east bay

3231
01:59:04,251 --> 01:59:06,251
which have commandeered

3232
01:59:08,877 --> 01:59:11,277
substantial sierra water supply

3233
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:14,430
not us 50 percent of our local

3234
01:59:14,430 --> 01:59:16,000
water comes from our local

3235
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,335
sources hence vital to our life.

3236
01:59:19,335 --> 01:59:21,752
for san jose and county of santa

3237
01:59:21,752 --> 01:59:23,376
clara we saw from the early 70s

3238
01:59:23,376 --> 01:59:25,100
what a critically important task

3239
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:28,000
this was. We learned the hard

3240
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,840
way the lessons of building

3241
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,501
homes on land slides and faults.

3242
01:59:33,501 --> 01:59:36,000
boulder creek homes in san jose

3243
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,335
and eastern hills the land began

3244
01:59:38,335 --> 01:59:40,735
to collapse, houses collapse,

3245
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,585
utilities have to be built above

3246
01:59:43,585 --> 01:59:46,501
ground so when it failed it was

3247
01:59:46,501 --> 01:59:48,126
visible and could be fixed right

3248
01:59:48,126 --> 01:59:51,726
away. Houses are built over and

3249
01:59:52,877 --> 01:59:54,919
over continuing to collapse as

3250
01:59:54,919 --> 01:59:56,100
families lose just about

3251
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:58,251
everything. The roads are

3252
01:59:58,251 --> 02:00:00,251
continually rebuilt. Successful

3253
02:00:01,919 --> 02:00:03,126
homeowner lost everything. The

3254
02:00:03,126 --> 02:00:04,627
public paid and paid and paid

3255
02:00:04,627 --> 02:00:07,627
for this mistake. Simoni drive

3256
02:00:09,168 --> 02:00:12,000
was next to fall eventually

3257
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,000
geo-technical work on both sides

3258
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,400
of our valley showed

3259
02:00:16,501 --> 02:00:18,901
instability, and in addition

3260
02:00:21,835 --> 02:00:25,376
high fire danger, we developed a

3261
02:00:25,376 --> 02:00:27,543
slope to keep development out of

3262
02:00:27,543 --> 02:00:31,143
the risky areas, and about late

3263
02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:34,168
1980 to the lower density in

3264
02:00:34,168 --> 02:00:36,000
these highly unstable lands and

3265
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,168
through citizen initiatives we

3266
02:00:38,168 --> 02:00:40,840
lowered densities we had to it

3267
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,684
was costing us a forgotten --

3268
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,960
fortune to rebuild the roads.

3269
02:00:53,376 --> 02:00:55,376
santa clara valley water agency

3270
02:00:55,376 --> 02:00:57,418
based on their value in

3271
02:00:57,418 --> 02:01:00,418
percolating rail fall into the

3272
02:01:00,501 --> 02:01:03,501
aquifer. Cities and county --

3273
02:01:04,752 --> 02:01:07,501
bay lands -- restoring aquifers

3274
02:01:07,501 --> 02:01:09,126
for the county so they can hole

3275
02:01:09,126 --> 02:01:12,000
water 50 of our county's water

3276
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,168
comes from this system to

3277
02:01:13,168 --> 02:01:14,835
accommodate this process

3278
02:01:14,835 --> 02:01:17,627
saratoga has had a hard scape of

3279
02:01:17,627 --> 02:01:19,376
development of 30 percent per

3280
02:01:19,376 --> 02:01:21,543
parcel this proposal --

3281
02:01:21,543 --> 02:01:22,585
[indiscernible].

3282
02:01:22,585 --> 02:01:23,210
>>karen mitchoff, chair: time

3283
02:01:23,210 --> 02:01:25,293
is up. Ms. Jensen that's three

3284
02:01:25,293 --> 02:01:27,293
minutes. Thank you.

3285
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:29,585
>>clerk of the board: next

3286
02:01:29,585 --> 02:01:32,585
speaker is rob nielsen. Go

3287
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,000
ahead.

3288
02:01:41,793 --> 02:01:42,668
>>clerk of the board: james

3289
02:01:42,668 --> 02:01:44,668
baxter's -- [indiscernible].

3290
02:01:47,627 --> 02:01:48,835
>>speaker: hello. There is

3291
02:01:48,835 --> 02:01:51,168
cross talk here. My name is rob

3292
02:01:51,168 --> 02:01:54,768
nielsen. I support 8a from the

3293
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:56,251
methodology committee. I

3294
02:01:56,251 --> 02:01:57,335
attended some of the meetings

3295
02:01:57,335 --> 02:01:59,627
this summer and fall and I am

3296
02:01:59,627 --> 02:02:01,793
very impressed by all the hard

3297
02:02:01,793 --> 02:02:03,000
work that was done in the back

3298
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,710
and forth to reach a compromise

3299
02:02:05,710 --> 02:02:07,335
that met all the statutory

3300
02:02:07,335 --> 02:02:08,793
requirements. I want to point

3301
02:02:08,793 --> 02:02:11,193
out the high opportunity

3302
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:16,100
requirement. Since I moved here

3303
02:02:19,335 --> 02:02:21,430
there has been less opportunity

3304
02:02:21,430 --> 02:02:23,376
because of the high cost of

3305
02:02:23,376 --> 02:02:25,251
housing. I am glad you're going

3306
02:02:25,251 --> 02:02:26,960
to start talking about issue

3307
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,293
that so there is opportunity for

3308
02:02:29,293 --> 02:02:31,668
all people to live here and to

3309
02:02:31,668 --> 02:02:33,000
add benefits to the bay area.

3310
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,501
and I'm glad you're taking steps

3311
02:02:35,501 --> 02:02:37,210
to correct it. Thank you.

3312
02:02:37,210 --> 02:02:38,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3313
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,418
you.

3314
02:02:38,418 --> 02:02:39,000
>>clerk of the board: last

3315
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,840
speaker is adam buckbinder. Go

3316
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,168
ahead.

3317
02:02:42,168 --> 02:02:43,335
>>clerk of the board: hello I'm

3318
02:02:43,335 --> 02:02:46,000
adam, from the city of campbell

3319
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,000
speaking for myself here. As a

3320
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,460
commissioner I am familiar with

3321
02:02:49,460 --> 02:02:50,668
campbell the idea that we

3322
02:02:50,668 --> 02:02:52,543
shouldn't have an ambitious

3323
02:02:52,543 --> 02:02:54,430
housing target because we are

3324
02:02:54,430 --> 02:02:57,430
mostly single family homes is

3325
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,919
nonsensical. The housing

3326
02:02:59,919 --> 02:03:01,793
doesn't care about the rezoning

3327
02:03:01,793 --> 02:03:03,460
map. This is what the housing

3328
02:03:03,460 --> 02:03:05,168
process is for what the general

3329
02:03:05,168 --> 02:03:06,627
update when we are in the middle

3330
02:03:06,627 --> 02:03:10,100
of campbell is for it's morally

3331
02:03:10,100 --> 02:03:12,543
horrible to place the aesthetic

3332
02:03:12,543 --> 02:03:15,543
whims over the needs community.

3333
02:03:17,877 --> 02:03:19,877
it's perfectly reasonable to

3334
02:03:19,877 --> 02:03:21,585
make targets adjustments to

3335
02:03:21,585 --> 02:03:23,251
reduce allocations in

3336
02:03:23,251 --> 02:03:25,251
unincorporated areas but

3337
02:03:25,251 --> 02:03:27,651
changing the baseline metrics

3338
02:03:28,126 --> 02:03:29,543
undermines the work and will

3339
02:03:29,543 --> 02:03:32,000
lead to worse outcomes. It's

3340
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:33,501
vital we find a way forward.

3341
02:03:33,501 --> 02:03:35,293
hmc has provided that I

3342
02:03:35,293 --> 02:03:37,710
encourage abag to use it. Thank

3343
02:03:37,710 --> 02:03:38,919
you for your time.

3344
02:03:38,919 --> 02:03:39,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3345
02:03:39,543 --> 02:03:39,877
you.

3346
02:03:39,877 --> 02:03:40,501
>>clerk of the board: chair

3347
02:03:40,501 --> 02:03:42,100
mitchoff, this is fred. Two

3348
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:43,210
additional members of the public

3349
02:03:43,210 --> 02:03:45,430
have raised their hands.

3350
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:45,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: go

3351
02:03:45,877 --> 02:03:46,501
ahead please.

3352
02:03:46,501 --> 02:03:47,430
>>clerk of the board: next

3353
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:50,430
speaker is joanna. Go ahead.

3354
02:03:54,877 --> 02:03:56,877
please unmute yourself.

3355
02:03:58,793 --> 02:04:01,543
>>speaker: sorry. Hi my name

3356
02:04:01,543 --> 02:04:03,960
is joanna. I am a colead with

3357
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,251
urban environmentalists. I am

3358
02:04:06,251 --> 02:04:08,460
calling in out of my work day to

3359
02:04:08,460 --> 02:04:10,793
say we support the hmc proposal

3360
02:04:10,793 --> 02:04:13,210
it's also illegal to place our

3361
02:04:13,210 --> 02:04:15,376
plans on regulatory constraints

3362
02:04:15,376 --> 02:04:17,776
like existing land use

3363
02:04:18,835 --> 02:04:20,501
restrictions because it

3364
02:04:20,501 --> 02:04:22,501
reinforces exclusionary

3365
02:04:22,627 --> 02:04:24,293
patterns. Thank you very much.

3366
02:04:24,293 --> 02:04:25,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3367
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:25,501
you very much.

3368
02:04:25,501 --> 02:04:26,430
>>clerk of the board: last

3369
02:04:26,430 --> 02:04:29,430
speaker is zack boling. Go

3370
02:04:29,835 --> 02:04:30,335
ahead.

3371
02:04:30,335 --> 02:04:32,543
>>speaker: hi there. I am a

3372
02:04:32,543 --> 02:04:34,710
resident of alameda and I want

3373
02:04:34,710 --> 02:04:38,210
to voice my disagreement of the

3374
02:04:38,210 --> 02:04:41,210
statements made by foreman. I

3375
02:04:45,835 --> 02:04:47,627
want to support my support for

3376
02:04:47,627 --> 02:04:50,270
hmc proposal. Thank you.

3377
02:04:50,251 --> 02:04:51,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: fred,

3378
02:04:51,543 --> 02:04:53,000
is it my understanding there are

3379
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:55,400
no more public speakers.

3380
02:04:55,668 --> 02:04:57,100
>>clerk of the board: no other

3381
02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:58,668
speakers. I have a list of

3382
02:04:58,668 --> 02:05:00,335
public comments received. I

3383
02:05:00,335 --> 02:05:01,835
would like to read the names.

3384
02:05:01,835 --> 02:05:03,919
david howard, paul foreman,

3385
02:05:03,919 --> 02:05:06,319
public advocates, singh bardin,

3386
02:05:08,877 --> 02:05:11,335
val e.a. Ebert, edward singh,

3387
02:05:11,335 --> 02:05:13,735
public advocates and daniel

3388
02:05:18,793 --> 02:05:20,543
staub. Thank you.

3389
02:05:20,543 --> 02:05:21,210
>>karen mitchoff, chair: I will

3390
02:05:21,210 --> 02:05:22,000
close the public hearing.

3391
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:23,919
>>carlos romero, vice chair:

3392
02:05:23,919 --> 02:05:25,293
excuse me, madam chair. May I

3393
02:05:25,293 --> 02:05:28,752
just make a comment? I know I

3394
02:05:28,752 --> 02:05:32,352
wanted to reserve two minute was

3395
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,627
of my time. I want to support

3396
02:05:40,627 --> 02:05:43,627
8a to affirmatively further fair

3397
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:45,710
housing in the nine county bay

3398
02:05:45,710 --> 02:05:47,168
area. It is essential to do

3399
02:05:47,168 --> 02:05:50,251
that. 8a is a compromise from

3400
02:05:50,251 --> 02:05:52,919
6a as many of the speakers have

3401
02:05:52,919 --> 02:05:55,418
said it took us a while to get

3402
02:05:55,418 --> 02:05:58,919
here. We agree on that and any

3403
02:05:58,919 --> 02:06:00,376
wholesale change to this process

3404
02:06:00,376 --> 02:06:03,976
and/or another option at this

3405
02:06:05,835 --> 02:06:08,430
point really would serve neither

3406
02:06:08,430 --> 02:06:10,418
the public, nor, for that

3407
02:06:10,418 --> 02:06:12,835
matter, any of us, any of the

3408
02:06:12,835 --> 02:06:14,627
residents of the nine bay area

3409
02:06:14,627 --> 02:06:16,418
county area because it would not

3410
02:06:16,418 --> 02:06:17,793
have been a vetted discussion

3411
02:06:17,793 --> 02:06:19,376
and more importantly, there is

3412
02:06:19,376 --> 02:06:21,376
no way that any other option

3413
02:06:21,376 --> 02:06:23,000
introduced today would be able

3414
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:25,400
to have the widespread

3415
02:06:28,126 --> 02:06:30,000
discussion and ultimately,

3416
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,376
approval of, as you heard today,

3417
02:06:32,376 --> 02:06:34,000
many of those folks speaking.

3418
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,100
so, again, I urge that we do

3419
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:39,601
move forward with 8a with an

3420
02:06:39,835 --> 02:06:41,668
equity adjustment, and lastly

3421
02:06:41,668 --> 02:06:44,100
I'll say I was pleased to hear

3422
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,585
greenbelt alliance speak in

3423
02:06:45,585 --> 02:06:49,430
favor of 8a, certainly I know

3424
02:06:49,430 --> 02:06:51,668
our staff is working diligently

3425
02:06:51,668 --> 02:06:53,000
with the three counties that

3426
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:54,126
have a concern about the

3427
02:06:54,126 --> 02:06:56,000
allocation ever units to the

3428
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:57,668
unincorporated areas, and I

3429
02:06:57,668 --> 02:07:00,376
think that issue is surmountable

3430
02:07:00,376 --> 02:07:03,976
by utilizing our staff smarts as

3431
02:07:04,210 --> 02:07:06,793
well as applying and approving

3432
02:07:06,793 --> 02:07:08,000
8a. Thank you.

3433
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:08,752
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3434
02:07:08,752 --> 02:07:10,000
you carlos. All right. Now I

3435
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,585
will close the public hearing.

3436
02:07:12,585 --> 02:07:14,585
just as a reminder for anyone

3437
02:07:14,585 --> 02:07:16,100
listening in who wants to

3438
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:18,401
comment. You have until

3439
02:07:18,919 --> 02:07:20,335
november 27th, and the

3440
02:07:20,335 --> 02:07:22,460
information on how to do so is

3441
02:07:22,460 --> 02:07:24,752
on the web site.

3442
02:07:24,752 --> 02:07:25,877
all right. We're going to move

3443
02:07:25,877 --> 02:07:27,877
on to --

3444
02:07:30,251 --> 02:07:31,251
>>rick bonilla: madam chair,

3445
02:07:31,251 --> 02:07:33,100
rick bonilla, if I may, now that

3446
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:35,251
I have heard extensive public

3447
02:07:35,251 --> 02:07:37,000
comment, I would like to make a

3448
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,000
statement.

3449
02:07:41,210 --> 02:07:42,430
>>speaker: likewise.

3450
02:07:42,430 --> 02:07:42,919
>>karen mitchoff, chair: rick

3451
02:07:42,919 --> 02:07:44,430
please keep it short we have got

3452
02:07:44,430 --> 02:07:46,430
another hearing.

3453
02:07:46,877 --> 02:07:47,460
>>rick bonilla: thank you of

3454
02:07:47,460 --> 02:07:49,860
course. After hearing extensive

3455
02:07:52,919 --> 02:07:55,319
public comment, after taking

3456
02:07:55,752 --> 02:07:57,840
part in the housing methodology

3457
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,000
committee, which was a long and

3458
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:00,000
informing process. I believe

3459
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,126
that we came forth with the best

3460
02:08:02,126 --> 02:08:03,840
recommendation possible that

3461
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:05,210
will go and do the best at

3462
02:08:05,210 --> 02:08:07,610
meeting the housing, the

3463
02:08:09,251 --> 02:08:11,251
affirmatively furthering fair

3464
02:08:11,668 --> 02:08:13,000
housing mandate and will meet

3465
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:14,293
the goals necessary to provide

3466
02:08:14,293 --> 02:08:16,840
the housing that we need in the

3467
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:18,430
locations where we need it. I

3468
02:08:18,430 --> 02:08:19,168
understand other jurisdictions

3469
02:08:19,168 --> 02:08:21,126
have some issues, those can be

3470
02:08:21,126 --> 02:08:22,251
worked through. I believe that

3471
02:08:22,251 --> 02:08:24,430
we're going to be able to go

3472
02:08:24,430 --> 02:08:25,668
forward with this, and I

3473
02:08:25,668 --> 02:08:27,251
recommend for everybody, if you

3474
02:08:27,251 --> 02:08:28,627
don't understand it, please take

3475
02:08:28,627 --> 02:08:31,000
a closer look. This is a great

3476
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:34,000
option. Thank you very much.

3477
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:34,668
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3478
02:08:34,668 --> 02:08:36,668
you. And melissa.

3479
02:08:41,335 --> 02:08:42,585
>>speaker: also I want to lend

3480
02:08:42,585 --> 02:08:45,000
my comment to the equity and

3481
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,000
proposed 8a. We are living

3482
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,293
through perhaps the most

3483
02:08:49,293 --> 02:08:51,501
fundamental demonstration of the

3484
02:08:51,501 --> 02:08:53,168
inequities in our system. The

3485
02:08:53,168 --> 02:08:55,293
pandemic has had a huge

3486
02:08:55,293 --> 02:08:56,543
percentage of the population

3487
02:08:56,543 --> 02:08:58,000
working from home, and many more

3488
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,430
in the very jobs that would

3489
02:09:01,430 --> 02:09:03,000
qualify folks for affordable

3490
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,710
fair housing out at work and

3491
02:09:05,710 --> 02:09:08,126
exposed. And this is a moment

3492
02:09:08,126 --> 02:09:09,877
where the least we can do I

3493
02:09:09,877 --> 02:09:11,627
think, is make sure that we have

3494
02:09:11,627 --> 02:09:13,251
I strategy that gets us to full

3495
02:09:13,251 --> 02:09:14,752
affordable housing for those

3496
02:09:14,752 --> 02:09:16,418
people who have worked so hard.

3497
02:09:16,418 --> 02:09:18,818
and the existence of

3498
02:09:18,835 --> 02:09:19,752
exclusionary communities that

3499
02:09:19,752 --> 02:09:21,000
have benefitted from the hard

3500
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,000
work of those families, it

3501
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,000
really is time to figure out how

3502
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:27,627
those exclusionary communities

3503
02:09:27,627 --> 02:09:29,000
start to create the housing in

3504
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:31,251
their communities for the

3505
02:09:31,251 --> 02:09:33,651
families whose labor they

3506
02:09:40,627 --> 02:09:41,543
benefit from.

3507
02:09:41,543 --> 02:09:42,168
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3508
02:09:42,168 --> 02:09:43,877
you. David rabbit?

3509
02:09:43,877 --> 02:09:44,501
>>david rabbit: thank you madam

3510
02:09:44,501 --> 02:09:45,877
chair. I want to again make

3511
02:09:45,877 --> 02:09:47,293
sure I get this on the record.

3512
02:09:47,293 --> 02:09:49,376
I want to thank staff and the

3513
02:09:49,376 --> 02:09:50,335
housing methodology committee.

3514
02:09:50,335 --> 02:09:52,000
I want supportive of the

3515
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:53,710
methodology moving forward. Of

3516
02:09:53,710 --> 02:09:54,793
course I do remain concerned

3517
02:09:54,793 --> 02:09:57,251
about the errors in urban sim

3518
02:09:57,251 --> 02:09:59,000
and I know that our staff is

3519
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:00,000
working on that. For instance,

3520
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,418
in our county, it identifies

3521
02:10:01,418 --> 02:10:03,818
high density housing assumption

3522
02:10:03,877 --> 02:10:06,835
in grave yards and floodways and

3523
02:10:06,835 --> 02:10:09,251
rural regulation land many miles

3524
02:10:09,251 --> 02:10:11,627
in services there is 20

3525
02:10:11,627 --> 02:10:13,376
instances of that in our county

3526
02:10:13,376 --> 02:10:15,776
alone. Adjacent freeways and

3527
02:10:21,668 --> 02:10:24,000
basins and noxious lands, there

3528
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:27,210
have been five wildfires in the

3529
02:10:27,210 --> 02:10:28,418
county in the last three years

3530
02:10:28,418 --> 02:10:31,418
and has burned 300,000 acres of

3531
02:10:32,210 --> 02:10:34,610
land and nearly 900 total

3532
02:10:35,460 --> 02:10:37,860
structures. Our population has

3533
02:10:38,627 --> 02:10:41,543
decreased since the first major

3534
02:10:41,543 --> 02:10:43,418
wildfire that is some of the, we

3535
02:10:43,418 --> 02:10:47,000
are moving forward. We just put

3536
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,430
$10 million into a housing fund

3537
02:10:48,430 --> 02:10:50,000
to keep moving forward on center

3538
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,293
city growth. There is nearly a

3539
02:10:52,293 --> 02:10:55,293
thousand percent increase in the

3540
02:10:55,418 --> 02:10:57,818
cycles allocation for the

3541
02:10:58,752 --> 02:11:01,152
unincorporated areas ever sonoma

3542
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,000
a that includes basically where

3543
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,000
water and sewer is. We're more

3544
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:10,000
than willing to take our fair

3545
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:12,168
share and push ourselves, we

3546
02:11:12,168 --> 02:11:13,960
want to make sure we doing it

3547
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,960
with correct, error free data.

3548
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,100
and we want to make sure that we

3549
02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:23,601
can not con addict our other

3550
02:11:23,835 --> 02:11:25,126
goals of greenhouse gas

3551
02:11:25,126 --> 02:11:26,627
emissions because that's what's

3552
02:11:26,627 --> 02:11:27,919
happening in the higher numbers

3553
02:11:27,919 --> 02:11:30,000
of the unincorporated area and

3554
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:31,960
one last thing that's relatively

3555
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:33,627
new development every county is

3556
02:11:33,627 --> 02:11:36,877
going to find this out, the safe

3557
02:11:36,877 --> 02:11:38,835
roads standards that you need to

3558
02:11:38,835 --> 02:11:40,460
get approved by the california

3559
02:11:40,460 --> 02:11:42,126
department of forestry have all

3560
02:11:42,126 --> 02:11:43,752
been stopped, and that means

3561
02:11:43,752 --> 02:11:45,168
that you cannot build a building

3562
02:11:45,168 --> 02:11:48,168
on a non-standard street of

3563
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:50,919
which the unincorporated

3564
02:11:50,919 --> 02:11:52,126
counties around the bay area

3565
02:11:52,126 --> 02:11:53,877
probably have thousands and

3566
02:11:53,877 --> 02:11:56,000
thousands of miles, unless you

3567
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,000
improve that street segment all

3568
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,000
the way down to the next safe

3569
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:03,000
street getting towards a fire

3570
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,400
station. This is prohibitively

3571
02:12:07,376 --> 02:12:08,752
expensive, and it will be a

3572
02:12:08,752 --> 02:12:10,000
state issue for probably some

3573
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:11,168
years to come. I don't know

3574
02:12:11,168 --> 02:12:14,000
what the right answer is but I

3575
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:15,960
know that it's going to prohibit

3576
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:17,210
a lot of growth in

3577
02:12:17,210 --> 02:12:18,585
unincorporated areas. So again,

3578
02:12:18,585 --> 02:12:20,293
I just want to make sure that

3579
02:12:20,293 --> 02:12:21,960
the errors are going to be

3580
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:22,919
corrected before we move

3581
02:12:22,919 --> 02:12:24,293
forward, and if staff can talk

3582
02:12:24,293 --> 02:12:27,893
about how that's going to get

3583
02:12:28,126 --> 02:12:30,840
factored in, that, and I know

3584
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:32,430
the sphere of influence with

3585
02:12:32,430 --> 02:12:34,000
which we will work, with this

3586
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,877
county in the city of santa

3587
02:12:35,877 --> 02:12:37,585
rosa, and those areas that are

3588
02:12:37,585 --> 02:12:41,000
going to be shortly annexed to

3589
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,376
make sure we're going to push

3590
02:12:44,376 --> 02:12:46,430
just right and we want more

3591
02:12:46,430 --> 02:12:48,752
housing but we want to make sure

3592
02:12:48,752 --> 02:12:51,752
we're not at odds with

3593
02:12:52,376 --> 02:12:54,840
ourselves.

3594
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:54,960
>>karen mitchoff, chair: thank

3595
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:56,251
you. I'm not seeing any other

3596
02:12:56,251 --> 02:12:59,335
raised hands. Let me check one

3597
02:12:59,335 --> 02:13:01,919
more time. Nope. Okay. I'm

3598
02:13:01,919 --> 02:13:03,835
now going to close the public

3599
02:13:03,835 --> 02:13:05,293
hearing. And we're moving to

3600
02:13:05,293 --> 02:13:09,877
item 6b for the sake of time, I

3601
02:13:09,877 --> 02:13:11,960
really don't -- does anybody

3602
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:14,000
want a staff presentation, or

3603
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:15,835
would you like to go directly to

3604
02:13:15,835 --> 02:13:18,235
comments of the commissioners

3605
02:13:18,335 --> 02:13:20,335
and the public?

3606
02:13:22,168 --> 02:13:24,168
>>pat ecklund: madam chair?

3607
02:13:24,168 --> 02:13:25,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: go

3608
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:25,627
ahead.

3609
02:13:25,627 --> 02:13:26,585
>>pat ecklund: I think -- we

3610
02:13:26,585 --> 02:13:28,000
had a presentation at the last

3611
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,000
meeting. So is it possible for

3612
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:31,000
us to go to public comment and

3613
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:33,000
then discussion?

3614
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:33,960
>>karen mitchoff, chair: that's

3615
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,627
what I was hoping for is that we

3616
02:13:35,627 --> 02:13:37,877
have all -- susan, you're okay

3617
02:13:37,877 --> 02:13:39,877
with that?

3618
02:13:43,877 --> 02:13:44,627
>>susan adams: I'll second that

3619
02:13:44,627 --> 02:13:45,293
yes.

3620
02:13:45,293 --> 02:13:46,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: we're

3621
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:47,460
all on the same page. And staff

3622
02:13:47,460 --> 02:13:49,126
that doesn't take away from all

3623
02:13:49,126 --> 02:13:51,126
the hard work you have done.

3624
02:13:51,126 --> 02:13:53,000
matt, do I need to repeat

3625
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:54,668
everything I said before

3626
02:13:54,668 --> 02:13:57,668
relative to the court reporter

3627
02:14:00,168 --> 02:14:02,126
and the county this one

3628
02:14:02,126 --> 02:14:03,710
government code section is one

3629
02:14:03,710 --> 02:14:06,710
digit off it's 65584.03 (c)and

3630
02:14:11,752 --> 02:14:13,585
again on this one, we can accept

3631
02:14:13,585 --> 02:14:15,710
and be accepting any mailed in

3632
02:14:15,710 --> 02:14:17,835
comments until november 27th.

3633
02:14:17,835 --> 02:14:20,000
so with that, are there any

3634
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,400
commissioner -- committee member

3635
02:14:23,126 --> 02:14:24,335
comments before we go to the

3636
02:14:24,335 --> 02:14:26,335
public hearing?

3637
02:14:26,376 --> 02:14:27,000
>>clerk of the board: chair

3638
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:28,752
mitchoff, this is fred, could I

3639
02:14:28,752 --> 02:14:31,460
just confirm that the court

3640
02:14:31,460 --> 02:14:33,000
reporter is still with us.

3641
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,000
>>karen mitchoff, chair: yes.

3642
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:36,710
the court reporter: I am here.

3643
02:14:36,710 --> 02:14:37,335
>>karen mitchoff, chair: do you

3644
02:14:37,335 --> 02:14:38,919
need a break?

3645
02:14:38,919 --> 02:14:39,543
the court reporter: I really

3646
02:14:39,543 --> 02:14:41,000
appreciate that. I'm doing my

3647
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,100
best. I think I will be okay.

3648
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:43,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: okay.

3649
02:14:43,877 --> 02:14:45,000
I don't think there are going to

3650
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:46,840
be as many public speakers on

3651
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:47,710
this as there were on the last

3652
02:14:47,710 --> 02:14:49,543
one. But believe me, I come

3653
02:14:49,543 --> 02:14:51,418
from a legal background so all

3654
02:14:51,418 --> 02:14:55,210
you got to do is say hey I got

3655
02:14:55,210 --> 02:14:57,610
to take a break.

3656
02:14:58,919 --> 02:15:00,000
let's go directly to public

3657
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,000
comment. Again, you have three

3658
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,293
minutes to make your comments.

3659
02:15:03,293 --> 02:15:04,960
fred, do we have members of the

3660
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,430
public who wish to speak?

3661
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:07,919
>>clerk of the board: at this

3662
02:15:07,919 --> 02:15:08,543
point there are no raised hands

3663
02:15:08,543 --> 02:15:10,543
from the attendees.

3664
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:12,752
>>rick bonilla: do I have a

3665
02:15:12,752 --> 02:15:14,126
question about the material

3666
02:15:14,126 --> 02:15:16,210
that's presented before we go to

3667
02:15:16,210 --> 02:15:17,418
comments. I think it's

3668
02:15:17,418 --> 02:15:18,430
important.

3669
02:15:18,430 --> 02:15:18,877
>>karen mitchoff, chair: all

3670
02:15:18,877 --> 02:15:20,335
right. Go ahead rick.

3671
02:15:20,335 --> 02:15:22,735
>>rick bonilla: on the

3672
02:15:23,251 --> 02:15:26,851
subregions, if we look at slide

3673
02:15:27,251 --> 02:15:31,451
-- what is it? The slide that

3674
02:15:31,752 --> 02:15:33,585
shows the subregions and the

3675
02:15:33,585 --> 02:15:35,840
amounts, their total

3676
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:36,835
allocations, if we look at napa

3677
02:15:36,835 --> 02:15:38,710
county, and in paragraph three,

3678
02:15:38,710 --> 02:15:40,501
on the page above, it says that

3679
02:15:40,501 --> 02:15:42,543
there will be no harm nor

3680
02:15:42,543 --> 02:15:44,100
benefit to member jurisdictions.

3681
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:46,335
and yet if we look at the

3682
02:15:46,335 --> 02:15:48,376
allocation totals, napa county

3683
02:15:48,376 --> 02:15:51,976
shows 3436 on slide four of this

3684
02:15:52,919 --> 02:15:54,100
presentation yet if you look at

3685
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:57,840
the subregion -- I mean the

3686
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,840
regional regular share is shows

3687
02:16:01,126 --> 02:16:03,126
3816. I think this might be an

3688
02:16:03,126 --> 02:16:04,710
error because when I look at the

3689
02:16:04,710 --> 02:16:06,840
same information for solano

3690
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,000
county, those two numbers are

3691
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:09,418
the same.

3692
02:16:09,418 --> 02:16:10,430
>>karen mitchoff, chair: staff,

3693
02:16:10,430 --> 02:16:12,835
can you address that concern?

3694
02:16:12,835 --> 02:16:14,168
>>gillian adams: I'm not sure

3695
02:16:14,168 --> 02:16:16,568
where year looking at.

3696
02:16:17,585 --> 02:16:18,293
>>rick bonilla: slide three of

3697
02:16:18,293 --> 02:16:21,293
the presentation for this item.

3698
02:16:24,501 --> 02:16:26,501
>>gillian adams: okay.

3699
02:16:26,877 --> 02:16:27,501
>>rick bonilla: if you look at

3700
02:16:27,501 --> 02:16:29,000
the bottom bullet point, it says

3701
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,168
that this confirms no harm nor

3702
02:16:32,168 --> 02:16:34,000
benefit. Go to the next slide.

3703
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:35,501
okay. Look at the total

3704
02:16:35,501 --> 02:16:37,501
allocation for napa and solano.

3705
02:16:37,501 --> 02:16:39,430
solano county, the total

3706
02:16:39,430 --> 02:16:40,543
allocation, there is no change

3707
02:16:40,543 --> 02:16:42,430
between this and the regular

3708
02:16:42,430 --> 02:16:44,168
allocation shown on the

3709
02:16:44,168 --> 02:16:45,668
presentation. The numbers are

3710
02:16:45,668 --> 02:16:47,668
both 11,906.

3711
02:16:48,752 --> 02:16:51,919
on napa county, here it shows

3712
02:16:51,919 --> 02:16:54,319
3436, but on the regular

3713
02:16:54,501 --> 02:16:56,501
allocation it shows 3816.

3714
02:16:59,168 --> 02:17:00,000
>>gillian adams: so the reason

3715
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:01,835
-- I'm sorry. I wasn't sure

3716
02:17:01,835 --> 02:17:04,000
what other number you were

3717
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:05,168
referring to but it's from the

3718
02:17:05,168 --> 02:17:06,126
previous presentation. The

3719
02:17:06,126 --> 02:17:07,710
reason for that is because not

3720
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:09,627
all jurisdictions in napa county

3721
02:17:09,627 --> 02:17:11,877
are part of the subregion.

3722
02:17:11,877 --> 02:17:13,251
>>rick bonilla: all right.

3723
02:17:13,251 --> 02:17:14,000
>>gillian adams: if you look at

3724
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:15,168
slide number two of the

3725
02:17:15,168 --> 02:17:16,840
subregion's presentation, you

3726
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:19,684
will see that calistoga and st.

3727
02:17:20,710 --> 02:17:22,000
helena are participating in the

3728
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:23,668
regional process, not the

3729
02:17:23,668 --> 02:17:25,168
subregional process.

3730
02:17:25,168 --> 02:17:26,000
>>rick bonilla: thank you.

3731
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:27,251
just checking. Thank you very

3732
02:17:27,251 --> 02:17:27,877
much.

3733
02:17:27,877 --> 02:17:28,501
>>karen mitchoff, chair: all

3734
02:17:28,501 --> 02:17:30,430
right. Great question. Thank

3735
02:17:30,430 --> 02:17:33,430
you for the clarification. All

3736
02:17:33,460 --> 02:17:34,501
right we're going to go to

3737
02:17:34,501 --> 02:17:36,752
public comment. Julie just said

3738
02:17:36,752 --> 02:17:40,418
she has to drop off and I'm

3739
02:17:40,418 --> 02:17:41,000
look, take care julie.

3740
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:43,000
[laughter]

3741
02:17:43,376 --> 02:17:45,100
but anyway, let's go led with

3742
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:46,877
public comment. Fred, you said

3743
02:17:46,877 --> 02:17:49,000
there weren't anybody -- there

3744
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:50,585
weren't any individuals who wish

3745
02:17:50,585 --> 02:17:52,293
to provide public testimony on

3746
02:17:52,293 --> 02:17:54,293
this item? Just confirming

3747
02:17:54,293 --> 02:17:55,100
that?

3748
02:17:55,100 --> 02:17:55,877
>>clerk of the board: that is

3749
02:17:55,877 --> 02:17:57,460
correct. No hands raised.

3750
02:17:57,460 --> 02:17:58,840
>>karen mitchoff, chair: then

3751
02:17:58,840 --> 02:17:59,376
would you go ahead and read, if

3752
02:17:59,376 --> 02:18:01,752
there have been written comments

3753
02:18:01,752 --> 02:18:02,251
made?

3754
02:18:02,251 --> 02:18:03,000
>>clerk of the board: the

3755
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,251
comments, the names of the

3756
02:18:04,251 --> 02:18:05,501
people that have submitted

3757
02:18:05,501 --> 02:18:07,251
public comments were mostly for

3758
02:18:07,251 --> 02:18:09,840
6a and I think there was one for

3759
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:12,684
6b, but I couldn't find that

3760
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:16,000
reference those were the only

3761
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:18,400
submitted public comments that

3762
02:18:18,668 --> 02:18:21,668
we received for item six.

3763
02:18:21,793 --> 02:18:22,418
>>karen mitchoff, chair: then

3764
02:18:22,418 --> 02:18:23,585
monica, you're just happy.

3765
02:18:23,585 --> 02:18:26,000
okay. And I -- okay. So with

3766
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:28,000
that --

3767
02:18:29,752 --> 02:18:30,710
>>monica brown: this is coming

3768
02:18:30,710 --> 02:18:32,835
across at least in solano county

3769
02:18:32,835 --> 02:18:33,919
as noise.

3770
02:18:33,919 --> 02:18:34,543
>>karen mitchoff, chair: what

3771
02:18:34,543 --> 02:18:35,627
is that? You're hearing some

3772
02:18:35,627 --> 02:18:38,270
background noise? Okay. Well,

3773
02:18:38,168 --> 02:18:39,960
we're almost finished. So

3774
02:18:39,960 --> 02:18:41,585
that's the good news. So, again

3775
02:18:41,585 --> 02:18:43,376
to reiterate, there were no

3776
02:18:43,376 --> 02:18:45,376
individuals of the public who

3777
02:18:45,376 --> 02:18:46,752
wished to testify, and

3778
02:18:46,752 --> 02:18:48,543
mr. Castro read into the record,

3779
02:18:48,543 --> 02:18:50,000
those who have given written

3780
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:52,000
comment. Again, reiterating,

3781
02:18:52,501 --> 02:18:54,901
anyone can provide written

3782
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:57,400
comments through november 7th,

3783
02:18:59,251 --> 02:19:01,000
2020, and with that, I will

3784
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:03,126
close that public hearing on 6b,

3785
02:19:03,126 --> 02:19:04,960
and our next is the adjournment,

3786
02:19:04,960 --> 02:19:08,835
and I have lost my calendar. Or

3787
02:19:08,835 --> 02:19:11,543
my agenda here. So I just want

3788
02:19:11,543 --> 02:19:13,100
to make sure, do we have another

3789
02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:14,752
meeting scheduled? Yes. We are

3790
02:19:14,752 --> 02:19:16,501
next scheduled to have a special

3791
02:19:16,501 --> 02:19:19,501
meeting of this committee on

3792
02:19:21,168 --> 02:19:22,585
december 2020. And with that, I

3793
02:19:22,585 --> 02:19:26,000
say goodbye, and nice to see you

3794
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:28,000
all. Take care, stay well. And

3795
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,100
we will see you, if not sooner,

3796
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:33,000
at least on december 20th --

3797
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:36,000
10th. All right. Thank you

3798
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:37,501
all. Good night.

3799
02:19:37,501 --> 02:19:39,501
[adjourned]