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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: good morning everyone.

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before I call the meeting to

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order I want to say that plane

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only air force planes that alix

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bockelman's dad hasn't flown.

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for you historians you probably

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associate the name of this plane

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it's frances gary powers. You

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historical significance. I

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would like to call the joint mtc

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committee to order. We'll call

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then turn to you for yours and

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>>jesse arreguin, abag

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administrative chair:

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: with that if we could

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>>clerk of the board: we will

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do after the broadcast team

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: thank you. I'm sorry.

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[recorded meeting procedures

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due to covid-19, this meeting

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will be conducted as a zoom

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webinar pursuant to the

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provisions of

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assembly bill 361 which suspends

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certain requirements of the

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the mtc website.

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p.m., yesterday, will be posted

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: roll call.

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>>clerk of the board: spering?

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: present.

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>>clerk of the board: ahn?

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>>eddie ahn: present.

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commissioner dutra-vernaci?

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>>carol dutra-vernaci: here.

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>>clerk of the board: fleming?

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>>victoria fleming: here.

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>>dorene m. Giacopini: here.

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>>clerk of the board: liccardo?

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commissioner schaff?

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: okay. I see mayor

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schaff is with us. So, she

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>>libby schaaf: you can not

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chair: I hear you.

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>>libby schaaf: okay.

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>>karen mitchoff: martha did

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: this is mtc.

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>>carol dutra-vernaci: mtc

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>>libby schaaf: second.

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>>clerk of the board: there are

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seconds. Could you take the

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roll, please?

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>>clerk of the board: chair

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chair: yes.

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>>clerk of the board: vice

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>>eddie ahn, v. Chair: aye.

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>>clerk of the board: connoly?

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>>clerk of the board: passes

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: thank you. Mayor

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>>jesse arreguin, abag

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>>clerk of the board: mayor

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>>pat ecklund: here.

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>>david e. Hudson: here.

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mandelman? Absent.

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>>david rabbit: here.

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>>carlos romero: here.

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>>clerk of the board: mayor

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>>clerk of the board: yes,

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>>jesse arreguin, abag

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>>clerk of the board: according

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december 10th, 2021. Motion to

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>>speaker: motion.

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>>pat ecklund: second.

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>>clerk of the board: there are

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>>clerk of the board: mayor

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>>jesse arreguin, abag

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>>clerk of the board: eklund?

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>>pat ecklund: aye.

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>>clerk of the board: fligor?

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>>clerk of the board: thank

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>>clerk of the board: thank

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>>david rabbit: yes.

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>>carlos romero: yes.

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>>clerk of the board: mayor

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unanimously by all members

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>>jesse arreguin, abag

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administrative chair: thank you

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very much. Back to mtc chair

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spering.

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: this item is sea level

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framework. Matt you're going to

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introduce and rachel it carry

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from there.

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>>matt maloney: matt maloney

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regional planning director for

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mtc and abag we have two items

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on the agenda today first one is

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sea level rise funding and

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investment framework we're

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returning to you today with this

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item. If you recall we

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presented to this committee back

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in july and since that time, we

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have worked to refine the scope

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of the effort in partnership

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with bcdc. And just as a

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reminder, you know, everything

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we do is related, of course, to

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planned bay area 2050, and that

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plan estimated a nearly

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$20 billion need to address sea

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level rise adaptation.

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and the implementation plan

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really identified the need for

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this study.

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and the purpose of it is really

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to improve the regional

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accounting of sea level rise

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costs and potential future

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revenue sources.

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we think this effort is very

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timely, given new actions by the

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state legislature, which has

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identified new funding for

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resilience. And we do believe

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that the state bears significant

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responsibility for ultimately

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funding these types of projects.

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and you know, most importantly,

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I think today we just want to

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formalize this partnership with

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bcdc today. We are continuing

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to use the joint committee of

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mtc and abag to showcase our

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work but we're also planning to

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provide updates on this study

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through bcdc committees as well

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as the barc governing board

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throughout the next year. And

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we have a number of staff here

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today, from both bcdc and mtc

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and on the mtc side, rachel

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hartofelis is here. She'll be

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giving a presentation on behalf

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of mtc, also michael germeraad,

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and dave vautin, of course, who

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you know very well. And on the

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bcdc side, nicholas sander is

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here who will also be presenting

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with rachel. I believe bcdc

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director larry goldzband is

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here, as well as planning

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director of bcdc, jessica. We

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have numerous partnerships here

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to answer any of your questions.

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with that I'll pass it over to

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nicholas from bcdc, I think, is

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going to kickoff the

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presentation.

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>>nicholas sander: thank you

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very much. Good morning

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everyone. I'm nicholas sander

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from bcdc here with rachel

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hartofelis, mtc and abag we want

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to discuss a joint effort to

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discuss sea level rise funding

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investment framework. We'll

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walk throughout context of sea

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level rise funding efforts,

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regional overview of funding

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framework and next steps for

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joint work. The framework will

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prepare for adaptation in

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two-ways competitiveness with a

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clear understanding for

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adaptation cost and needs and

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explore how we can augment state

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and federal needs for funding

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sources. Graphic illustrates

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how sea level rise has been

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addressed in the region. Mtc

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abag plan 2050 and the estuary

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blueprint update, bay adapt

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adopted by bcdc commission in

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october has addressed priority

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actions against long-term sea

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level rise, the priority is

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identifying steps for

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implementation.

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planned bay area adopted on the

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same day as the joint platform

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in october is a multifaceted

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regional plan that addresses

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housing, transportation,

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economic, and environmental

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conditions. Adapting to sea

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level rise is 1 of 35 strategies

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in the plan.

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meanwhile the sf estuary

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partnership is including an

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update to the estuary blueprint

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a regional plan to achieve a

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healthy and resilience san

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francisco estuary through each

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planning processes staff at all

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agencies have worked closely to

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align all three efforts.

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planned bay area 2050 included

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environmental elements to

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address environmental priorities

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throughout the region adapting

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to sea level rise strategy

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included a range of adaptation

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actions across the region to

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address first two feet of

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permanent sea level rise part of

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the planning process assessment

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was developed. A $19 billion

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need to address a segment of

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shoreline, resulting in a

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$60 billion gap. Critically as

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part of the process we did not

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study sea level rise specific

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revenue measures to address the

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funding gap filling the gap will

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require a mix of funding state

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and federal opportunities that

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have emerged in the last six

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months have provided opportunity

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to spring board action

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resilience framework will

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account for these new revenues

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and will be used to support

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near-term action to compete for

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existing funding for framework.

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opportunity will explore pros

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and cons of funding sources that

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will be needed to support state

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and federal investment and

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increase competitive edge for

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state and federal funding. Next

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slide please. Bcdc completed

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funding analysis for funding and

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finance white paper summarizing

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sea level rise damage to the

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rest of the region comparison

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including information around sea

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level rise water ecosystem

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impact and policy changes.

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costs were compared with funding

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needs estimated by planned bay

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area 2050 as well as uc berkeley

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study compared with estimated

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regional funding supply based on

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jurisdictional financial data

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analysis resulted in estimated

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regional gap expressed per

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capita per household per parcel

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as percentage of gdp analysis by

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mtc and abag the white paper did

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not study measures to fill

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potential funding gaps. Next

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slide please.

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as we have previously referenced

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near-term funding opportunities

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have developed at state level

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2021 budget act approved by

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state legislators identified

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$15 billion in funding

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throughout the next few years

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$3.86 billion identified for

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climate resilience a portion of

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funding revenue is likely to be

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distributed across the state to

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address a variety of hazards

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funding may be able to fund

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critical near-term sea level

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rise priorities such as shovel

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ready projects as well as

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regional planning adaptation

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planning in the bay area.

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however there is a substantial

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funding gap for sea level rise

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adaptation underscoring the need

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for to research additional

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revenue sources for sea level

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rise adaptation in the years

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ahead preparing for near-term

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state and funding opportunities

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improving advocacy for

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additional state and federal

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resources and inform longer term

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approach for local and regional

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action to augment state and

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federal funds. Actions needed

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to prepare for sea level rise

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identifying similar actions for

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regional funding plans to

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identify funding needs and

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establish funding approaches.

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in the platform 6.1 and 6.2 call

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to expand understanding of

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financial cost revenues

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associated with adaptation and

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establish framework for funding

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plans and projects. Adaptation

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to funding sea level rise in the

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next five years and blueprint

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currently includes option to

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develop sea level rise funding

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investment framework in the next

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five years. I'll hand it over

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to my colleague rachel

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hartofelis to address the

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framework.

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>>rachael hartofelis: thank

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you, nick. In september 2021

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the barc governing board

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approved the joint -- excuse me

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-- next slide --

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thank you.

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so in september the barc

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governing board approved the

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joint resolution to address

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climate change which included

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creation of a shared work plan.

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the shared work plan will

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advance strategic coordinated

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implementation of high priority

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actions identified in regional

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agency plans and platforms over

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the next 1 to 5 years.

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developing a sea level rise

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adaptation funding investment

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framework is an example of how

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high priority implementation

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actions identify in these

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adopted agency plans can be

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implemented and coordinated in a

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single shared approach. After

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presenting to this committee

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last july the concept of

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framework has been adjusted in

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its scope sea level rise

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adaptation funding and

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investment framework will be

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colead by mtc and bcdc for work

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to become a resource for local

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governments and advocates

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pursuing sea level rise funding

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throughout the region.

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framework presented to barc last

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month and we'll continue to

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share updates with the governing

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board as the project develops

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throughout 2022 for additional

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feedback and collaboration mtc

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and abag and bcdc will bring

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updates to staff as needed.

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next slide please.

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mtc abag and bcdc have

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collaboratively developed a

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concept of sea level rise and

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adaptation investment framework

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build off prior research and

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analysis to advance our regional

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understanding of what it will

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cost the region to adapt to sea

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level rise as well as to explore

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the most equitable means to

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raise new revenues to address

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the funding gap. As part of

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this work plan we started by

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identifying a number of goals

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for the framework and will

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discuss three overarching goals

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of the work for you today.

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first goal is to update and

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improve the regional accounting

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of sea level rise adaptation

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projects creating a version 2.0

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of the previous regional

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analysis done by mtc abag and

583
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bcdc. With a refined

584
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understanding of what it may

585
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cost the region to adapt to sea

586
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level rise we can better

587
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advocate for regional adaptation

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needs at state and federal level

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this research will also improve

590
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our region's estimates on the

591
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cost of adaptation across the

592
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region and it will refine how

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much revenue from existing sea

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level rise funding sources we

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can anticipate to do this we

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will engage closely with local

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governments and partners to

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understand the status of local

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adaptation plans strategies and

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projects to update prior

601
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regional analysis. Helping to

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identify areas with or without

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known plans for shoreline

604
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adaptation: this accounting

605
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will be used directly for the

606
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framework analysis and it will

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also be shared and maintained as

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a resource for local government

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planning.

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it will also be used to support

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future regional advocacy for new

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state and federal adaptation.

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next slide please.

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second goal explores how new

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local and regional revenues for

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sea level rise adaptation can be

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raised more equitably. The

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region has many priorities and

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existing revenue sources are

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unlikely to be able to support

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the region's shoreline

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adaptation needs near-term state

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and federal funding

624
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opportunities will help the

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region but we can't count on

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sacramento to pay for 100% of

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this weather raising funds to

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match federal and state dollars

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or raising additional revenues

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beyond what the state and

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federal government offer to help

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inform local and regional

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measures to augment adaptation

634
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funding in the near-term. Meant

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recent studies have identified

636
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potential tools for adaptation

637
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including by design and legacy

638
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funds even with previous

639
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analysis done by mtc and abag as

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mentioned previously there is

641
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not yet an applied analysis of

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potential new funding source for

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the bay area.

644
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the framework will fill this

645
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existing research gap to analyze

646
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a range of additional revenue

647
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measures at different scales to

648
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identify approaches to build the

649
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funding gap more equitably. The

650
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bay area shoreline is buried and

651
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the timing of flooding, the land

652
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use characteristic around the

653
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shoreline and location of

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communities and resources can

655
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all impact how we will raise new

656
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revenue. Staff will work with

657
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stakeholders to visualize the

658
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equity outcomes of different

659
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approaches before publically

660
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sharing results throughout the

661
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region this result in analysis

662
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will support future advocacy in

663
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support suggest new revenue

664
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local and regional revenue

665
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measures to support long-term

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shoreline adaptation. Next

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slide please.

668
00:21:04,918 --> 00:21:07,167
the final major project goal is

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to determine possible mechanisms

670
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to distribute new fund for

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adaptation. Plans review

672
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existing local and regional

673
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funding mechanisms that maybe

674
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applicable for sea level rise

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projects. We also want to

676
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identify opportunities for how

677
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new revenue measures can best be

678
00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:24,792
designed to fill anticipated

679
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funding gaps across the region

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for a diverse range of

681
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adaptation project needs.

682
00:21:31,292 --> 00:21:32,501
framework will build on the

683
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distribution of near-term state

684
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and federal funding measures as

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well as the preparation for the

686
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long-term by understanding

687
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funding mechanisms at the local

688
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or regional level.

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these recommendations will be

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00:21:45,125 --> 00:21:46,999
reviewed by local and community

691
00:21:46,999 --> 00:21:48,959
stakeholders before publically

692
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sharing these results throughout

693
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the region. And as with the

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results of the second goal the

695
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outcome of this research may be

696
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used to inform future advocacy

697
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bringing revenues. Next slide

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please.

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we have identified a number of

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ways to move forward on this

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work in the coming months. We

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00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:08,918
plan to kickoff the framework by

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setting sea level rise and data

704
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assumptions maintain a technical

705
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working group and by working

706
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with local partners to update

707
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our understanding of local

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adaptation projects. Staff will

709
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also continue to align this

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project with the barc shared

711
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:24,209
work plan as it develops as well

712
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as other bay adapt joint

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platform actions. Updates on

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the framework will continue to

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be brought to mtc abag as well

716
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as to the barc governing board

717
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and bcdc throughout 2022. Next

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slide please.

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00:22:41,999 --> 00:22:43,834
thank you. So, we are looking

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forward to the ways that the

721
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framework will help to prepare

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the region to tackle this

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climate crisis with new

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adaptation measures becoming

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available at the state and

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federal level this research will

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improve our competitiveness

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while identifying ways to

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augment near-term funding

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opportunities on the local and

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regional levels. So we would

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like to thank you for your time

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and attention today as we

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introduce this upcoming work and

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we'll open it up now for any

736
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potential questions or

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discussion.

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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00:23:10,834 --> 00:23:12,417
chair: okay. Thank you. Good

740
00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:15,417
report. Larry goldzband is with

741
00:23:16,876 --> 00:23:18,626
us. Larry, did you have any

742
00:23:18,626 --> 00:23:20,584
comments before I go to the

743
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commissioners or board members?

744
00:23:24,584 --> 00:23:25,334
>>larry goldzband: pardon me,

745
00:23:25,334 --> 00:23:28,999
as I put on my video. I think

746
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they did a great job. But what

747
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can you expect from two great

748
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staffers.

749
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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: okay. Thank you, larry.

751
00:23:36,501 --> 00:23:39,000
one question is, are we making

752
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,125
the case that, of what the cost

753
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will be if we do nothing? Is

754
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that case being made?

755
00:23:46,709 --> 00:23:48,709
rachel?

756
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>>rachael hartofelis: so, as a

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part of this analysis, we will

758
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be looking at the vulnerability

759
00:23:54,918 --> 00:23:56,999
of the region, and a big part of

760
00:23:56,999 --> 00:23:58,834
this work will be understanding

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where we have plans for the

762
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region and where there are not

763
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yet plans. So I think that will

764
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really help to illustrate how

765
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prepared the region may be for

766
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adaptation in the future. It's

767
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unclear if we'll be able to

768
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identify the cost of inaction,

769
00:24:16,167 --> 00:24:19,584
but we will identify a much more

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robust sense of regional need to

771
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understand what that deficit is,

772
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and what the funding gap is to

773
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adapt to the region for, you

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know, what we can expect in the

775
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future.

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: I just think it's

778
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important with the tremendous

779
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shortfalls we have, we're going

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to need public support. And the

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public needs to understand the

782
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importance of this. So I hope

783
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we don't overlook, you know,

784
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that public outreach, and really

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building the case for the

786
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funding supports to address this

787
00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:51,417
issue.

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00:24:51,417 --> 00:24:53,501
gina, I see you have your hand

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up?

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>>gina papan: thank you,

791
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mr. Chair. And thank you,

792
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staff. Great report. I just

793
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want to make sure we're

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inclusive. Didn't

795
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jurisdictions, like, we have our

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own sea level rise group. So I

797
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want to make sure it's totally

798
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inclusive as we move forward

799
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here. And then additional

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partners, because, sadly, my

801
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city had a real tragic incident

802
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where two people drowned.

803
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sudden sea level rise. Pumps

804
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and everything were working.

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and part of our system is

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connected to sfo, and they need

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to clear out a canal. So I

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don't know if we're actually

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including those partners, but

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this -- these deaths are still a

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mystery, and we're investigating

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it all, but we need to include

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those partners, as well.

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thank you, mr. Chair.

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:45,999
chair: okay. Thank you. Pat

817
00:25:45,999 --> 00:25:48,999
eklund. Pat? And then eddie.

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00:25:50,375 --> 00:25:52,125
>>pat ecklund: actually, chair

819
00:25:52,125 --> 00:25:55,725
spering, eddie had his hand up

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before me. To be fair.

821
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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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chair: okay. Go ahead eddie.

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00:26:03,999 --> 00:26:05,125
>>eddie ahn: I'll go quickly.

824
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I am interested in following

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this because I serve both

826
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commissions mtc and bcdc. I

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think for future presentations,

828
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too, it would be helpful to

829
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understand, probably a priority

830
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list of infrastructure we're

831
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going to shore up in

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anticipation of adapting to

833
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climate change. Especially if

834
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-- I did back of the napkin math

835
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right now but it looks like we

836
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have over 80% to go in terms of

837
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trying to fund-raise the entire

838
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amount of adapting to rising sea

839
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levels so with that in mind just

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knowing which piece of

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infrastructure is most important

842
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so that the bay area region

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functions I think would be good.

844
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and second small thing is just

845
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to hopefully include, in the

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future, san francisco

847
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stakeholders, such as our office

848
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of resilience and capital

849
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planning and make sure to follow

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up with staff to ensure that the

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right san francisco agencies are

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included. Thank you.

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>>jim spering, mtc planning

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00:27:00,876 --> 00:27:02,626
chair: very good comments,

855
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eddie. Thank you.

856
00:27:04,918 --> 00:27:06,167
pat?

857
00:27:06,167 --> 00:27:06,999
>>pat ecklund: thank you very

858
00:27:06,999 --> 00:27:08,626
much, chair spering.

859
00:27:08,626 --> 00:27:10,667
first of all, I did want to say

860
00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:12,751
great presentation by the staff.

861
00:27:12,751 --> 00:27:14,751
and it's wonderful to see that

862
00:27:14,751 --> 00:27:16,334
the regional organizations are

863
00:27:16,334 --> 00:27:18,542
working together on an issue

864
00:27:18,542 --> 00:27:21,542
that affects all of us.

865
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,999
I, too, serve on the bay

866
00:27:26,999 --> 00:27:27,709
conservation and development

867
00:27:27,709 --> 00:27:29,542
commission, which is truly an

868
00:27:29,542 --> 00:27:31,830
honor. I want to thank

869
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:33,483
president arreguin, again, for

870
00:27:33,626 --> 00:27:34,999
selecting me to serve on that

871
00:27:34,999 --> 00:27:36,999
commission. After having worked

872
00:27:36,999 --> 00:27:39,999
for the u.s. Environmental

873
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,125
protection agency for over 35

874
00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:45,830
years and the u.s. Army corp of

875
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:46,459
engineers for eight, I have

876
00:27:46,459 --> 00:27:48,859
focused primarily my whole

877
00:27:48,876 --> 00:27:51,276
federal career on environmental

878
00:27:51,834 --> 00:27:53,542
issues related to san francisco

879
00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:55,209
bay and others.

880
00:27:55,209 --> 00:27:56,999
but at the december meeting of

881
00:27:56,999 --> 00:27:59,999
the bcdc commission, we did

882
00:28:00,167 --> 00:28:03,167
adopt the sea level rise

883
00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:07,459
adaptation progress gaps and

884
00:28:07,459 --> 00:28:09,999
needs. And as part that

885
00:28:09,999 --> 00:28:12,834
document that we adopted, they

886
00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:14,999
identified that there were 45%

887
00:28:14,999 --> 00:28:17,000
of the jurisdictions around san

888
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,876
francisco bay that do not have

889
00:28:18,876 --> 00:28:20,999
an adaptation plan. The second

890
00:28:20,999 --> 00:28:23,751
thing is that in bridging the

891
00:28:23,751 --> 00:28:26,751
gap document that bcdc also

892
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:32,725
adopted, it's clear -- it's on

893
00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:36,125
page 21, and I would encourage

894
00:28:36,125 --> 00:28:38,375
people to look at this -- on the

895
00:28:38,375 --> 00:28:40,542
cost estimates for dealing with

896
00:28:40,542 --> 00:28:42,292
sea level rise, they looked at

897
00:28:42,292 --> 00:28:45,292
two feet, 2.3 feet, and 6.6 feet

898
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,959
and the different funding

899
00:28:49,959 --> 00:28:51,375
adaptation costs associated with

900
00:28:51,375 --> 00:28:54,975
that, and the three agencies, I

901
00:28:55,375 --> 00:28:57,250
believe, picked the two feet,

902
00:28:57,250 --> 00:29:00,125
which includes a seven feet of

903
00:29:00,125 --> 00:29:03,417
sea level rise, plus two feet of

904
00:29:03,417 --> 00:29:06,167
free board and extra head room.

905
00:29:06,167 --> 00:29:08,999
but, what is not included in

906
00:29:08,999 --> 00:29:11,792
here, in these costs, is

907
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,751
environmental mitigation, land

908
00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:15,751
acquisition, utility relocation,

909
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:19,501
and maintenance cost. And those

910
00:29:19,501 --> 00:29:24,301
costs, a lot are -- a lot --

911
00:29:25,334 --> 00:29:26,999
local governments are very

912
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:29,399
involved in, like, utilities,

913
00:29:29,876 --> 00:29:32,276
like sanitary sewers, or

914
00:29:35,999 --> 00:29:37,999
environmental mitigation, local

915
00:29:37,999 --> 00:29:39,501
governments are very involved in

916
00:29:39,501 --> 00:29:40,999
that. So I really think that

917
00:29:40,999 --> 00:29:42,834
any funding request that we

918
00:29:42,834 --> 00:29:46,000
make, we need to add some

919
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,999
funding for local governments to

920
00:29:48,999 --> 00:29:52,599
be able to fine-tune, or to

921
00:29:55,501 --> 00:29:57,501
develop their adaptation plans.

922
00:29:57,501 --> 00:29:58,999
because local governments have

923
00:29:58,999 --> 00:30:01,501
to be involved every step of the

924
00:30:01,501 --> 00:30:03,999
way. And we have not really had

925
00:30:03,999 --> 00:30:06,000
an active engagement with the

926
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
regulatory agencies.

927
00:30:08,542 --> 00:30:12,142
and I think bcdc has emphasized

928
00:30:13,167 --> 00:30:15,501
at least in the two meetings

929
00:30:15,501 --> 00:30:17,334
that I have attended, since I

930
00:30:17,334 --> 00:30:19,584
was appointed, the need to

931
00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:21,250
really reach out to local

932
00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:23,650
governments. The marin county

933
00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:25,250
mayors and council members, we

934
00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:26,918
have a climate change

935
00:30:26,918 --> 00:30:29,000
subcommittee composed of a

936
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,584
representative -- elected

937
00:30:30,584 --> 00:30:33,876
representative -- of each of the

938
00:30:33,876 --> 00:30:36,459
cities and we are going to be

939
00:30:36,459 --> 00:30:39,459
bringing bcdc mayors and council

940
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
members conference in july so

941
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,830
they will be talking to all

942
00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:51,751
elected official in marin county

943
00:30:51,751 --> 00:30:54,751
in february about this issue. I

944
00:30:54,751 --> 00:30:57,417
really think that mtc and bcdc

945
00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,125
and san francisco bay

946
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,125
restoration authority really

947
00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,999
need to advocate for, number

948
00:31:01,999 --> 00:31:03,876
one, funding for cities and

949
00:31:03,876 --> 00:31:06,420
counties to do an adaptation

950
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,420
plan, and to identify their

951
00:31:09,626 --> 00:31:12,260
financial needs, and to

952
00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:15,667
identify, specifically, what

953
00:31:18,959 --> 00:31:21,959
should be funded to help bridge

954
00:31:21,959 --> 00:31:25,542
the gap so that we can make sure

955
00:31:25,542 --> 00:31:28,542
that estimates that we're using,

956
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,999
which is 19 billion, which is a

957
00:31:33,999 --> 00:31:35,542
minimum, that it also include

958
00:31:35,542 --> 00:31:37,999
what local governments need to

959
00:31:37,999 --> 00:31:39,999
do their fair share of it.

960
00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:42,999
so, anyways, so I agree that the

961
00:31:42,999 --> 00:31:44,834
state needs to fund this. Local

962
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,125
governments, in my opinion,

963
00:31:46,125 --> 00:31:48,125
cannot.

964
00:31:48,167 --> 00:31:50,167
we're having a tough time just

965
00:31:50,167 --> 00:31:52,125
doing what we need to do. And

966
00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:54,000
especially for those local

967
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,751
governments who are poor

968
00:31:55,751 --> 00:31:58,167
property tax cities, like the

969
00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:00,792
city of novato, where we only

970
00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:03,792
get $0.07 on the dollar, most

971
00:32:04,918 --> 00:32:07,918
cities get 23 to $0.26 on the

972
00:32:08,420 --> 00:32:09,667
dollar. So, anyway, comments

973
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:12,292
from marin, and the north bay, I

974
00:32:12,292 --> 00:32:14,999
think that we really need to

975
00:32:14,999 --> 00:32:16,999
make a concerted effort to

976
00:32:16,999 --> 00:32:19,999
include some cost estimates for

977
00:32:20,459 --> 00:32:23,626
cities when we go to the state

978
00:32:23,626 --> 00:32:26,260
legislature or other funding

979
00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:27,626
opportunities.

980
00:32:27,626 --> 00:32:27,999
so, thank you.

981
00:32:27,999 --> 00:32:28,999
>>jim spering, mtc planning

982
00:32:28,999 --> 00:32:31,399
chair: thank you, pat.

983
00:32:31,999 --> 00:32:33,999
I don't see any other committee

984
00:32:33,999 --> 00:32:35,751
members hands up.

985
00:32:35,751 --> 00:32:39,209
and, so, is there any public

986
00:32:39,209 --> 00:32:41,209
comments?

987
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:42,999
>>clerk of the board: yes.

988
00:32:42,999 --> 00:32:44,209
there was no written

989
00:32:44,209 --> 00:32:45,250
correspondence received on this

990
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,250
item, and there is one member of

991
00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:48,626
the public with their hand

992
00:32:48,626 --> 00:32:50,626
raised.

993
00:32:51,876 --> 00:32:52,000
rich.

994
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,626
>>jim spering, mtc planning

995
00:32:53,626 --> 00:32:54,751
chair: okay.

996
00:32:54,751 --> 00:32:55,501
>>clerk of the board: rich, go

997
00:32:55,501 --> 00:32:57,792
ahead and unmute yourself.

998
00:32:57,792 --> 00:32:58,375
>>richard hedges: thank you

999
00:32:58,375 --> 00:32:59,334
chair spering.

1000
00:32:59,334 --> 00:33:01,292
I want to raise a couple of

1001
00:33:01,292 --> 00:33:02,876
issues. First I want to

1002
00:33:02,876 --> 00:33:05,876
acknowledge that I agree with

1003
00:33:06,834 --> 00:33:08,751
commissioner papan. But I want

1004
00:33:08,751 --> 00:33:12,951
to add some things. We need to

1005
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:16,830
really look at private public

1006
00:33:16,626 --> 00:33:18,501
project partnerships coordinated

1007
00:33:18,501 --> 00:33:20,000
throughout bay area just a few

1008
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,999
in the county where I live in,

1009
00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:24,999
we have meta with gilead,

1010
00:33:30,584 --> 00:33:32,334
alumina, which is a company that

1011
00:33:32,334 --> 00:33:35,334
just built five story buildings

1012
00:33:35,999 --> 00:33:39,250
right next to the bay visa's

1013
00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:40,959
world headquarters, and sony

1014
00:33:40,959 --> 00:33:42,209
playstation most of these are

1015
00:33:42,209 --> 00:33:45,375
within a 1 to 10 block walk from

1016
00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,167
my housing they really do share

1017
00:33:47,167 --> 00:33:49,334
these problems and should help

1018
00:33:49,334 --> 00:33:51,542
fund them. I could go on,

1019
00:33:51,542 --> 00:33:53,501
throughout the county with roach

1020
00:33:53,501 --> 00:33:55,834
in san francisco and many other

1021
00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:58,834
companies within that area with

1022
00:33:58,999 --> 00:34:00,999
biotech. So I just look forward

1023
00:34:00,999 --> 00:34:03,626
to us including that section. I

1024
00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:05,000
think they have been included in

1025
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,209
our county plan. I am sure that

1026
00:34:07,209 --> 00:34:09,609
commissioner papan could better

1027
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:13,417
inform than I can. But let's go

1028
00:34:13,417 --> 00:34:15,167
forward looking at sources of

1029
00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:16,292
people that have the same thing

1030
00:34:16,292 --> 00:34:18,792
to lose as our residents, who

1031
00:34:18,792 --> 00:34:20,000
are paying the taxes. Thank

1032
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,999
you.

1033
00:34:21,999 --> 00:34:22,709
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1034
00:34:22,709 --> 00:34:24,918
chair: okay. Thank you.

1035
00:34:24,918 --> 00:34:26,209
carlos, did you have your hand

1036
00:34:26,209 --> 00:34:29,417
up? Did you want to speak?

1037
00:34:29,417 --> 00:34:31,334
>>carlos romero: I do. Thank

1038
00:34:31,334 --> 00:34:32,459
you, chair.

1039
00:34:32,459 --> 00:34:36,590
I, too, am in particular in

1040
00:34:36,959 --> 00:34:38,375
support of the fact that we're

1041
00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:39,999
trying to address sea level rise

1042
00:34:39,999 --> 00:34:41,501
and the other environmental

1043
00:34:41,501 --> 00:34:44,501
issues that we are incurring

1044
00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:48,867
based on our rise in fossil fuel

1045
00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:51,125
consumption. And, again, coming

1046
00:34:51,125 --> 00:34:53,626
from a county where we do have a

1047
00:34:53,626 --> 00:34:55,959
local agency recently formed to

1048
00:34:55,959 --> 00:34:57,999
work on this, as well as coming

1049
00:34:57,999 --> 00:35:00,209
from a city, that because there

1050
00:35:00,209 --> 00:35:02,459
has not been a lot of other

1051
00:35:02,459 --> 00:35:04,667
federal state money, have

1052
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,999
actually, in a very relatively

1053
00:35:06,999 --> 00:35:09,399
poor city, have approximately

1054
00:35:09,584 --> 00:35:11,792
poured in $10 million of our own

1055
00:35:11,792 --> 00:35:13,959
general fund money to begin to

1056
00:35:13,959 --> 00:35:16,125
advance to address the issue of

1057
00:35:16,125 --> 00:35:19,725
flooding by sea level rise. We

1058
00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:23,167
all need to look at existing

1059
00:35:23,167 --> 00:35:24,999
efforts around the bay area and

1060
00:35:24,999 --> 00:35:26,417
I think commissioner papan

1061
00:35:26,417 --> 00:35:27,999
mentioned that. But I also

1062
00:35:27,999 --> 00:35:29,667
think it's extremely important

1063
00:35:29,667 --> 00:35:31,999
for all of us to collaborate

1064
00:35:31,999 --> 00:35:33,417
collectively. We are a regional

1065
00:35:33,417 --> 00:35:35,417
body, probably the

1066
00:35:35,792 --> 00:35:37,209
prioritization of projects,

1067
00:35:37,209 --> 00:35:38,709
which commissioner ahn talked

1068
00:35:38,709 --> 00:35:40,125
about will be a critical

1069
00:35:40,125 --> 00:35:41,459
discussion for all of us to

1070
00:35:41,459 --> 00:35:43,209
have, within the context. I

1071
00:35:43,209 --> 00:35:45,584
know the presenters used the

1072
00:35:45,584 --> 00:35:48,584
term equity several times, and

1073
00:35:48,999 --> 00:35:52,599
to the extent that that can

1074
00:35:52,999 --> 00:35:54,876
actually be more fully fleshed

1075
00:35:54,876 --> 00:35:58,501
out what is meant by equity, as

1076
00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:00,000
everybody gets their

1077
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,400
proportional fair share, or

1078
00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:05,999
examples of other places where

1079
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,667
we have low-income folks that

1080
00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:08,918
will be impacted and will not

1081
00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:09,999
have the capacity to do their

1082
00:36:09,999 --> 00:36:12,250
own lifting of homes or

1083
00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:13,999
whatever, that we would look at

1084
00:36:13,999 --> 00:36:16,999
an equity definition that not

1085
00:36:16,999 --> 00:36:19,399
just addresses a fair

1086
00:36:19,792 --> 00:36:21,792
apportionment based on

1087
00:36:21,834 --> 00:36:23,420
population but also on impact

1088
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:25,442
and addressing, perhaps, past

1089
00:36:26,999 --> 00:36:30,830
neglect of some of those coastal

1090
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:33,830
or, you know, bay fronting

1091
00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:36,830
communities that are more

1092
00:36:36,830 --> 00:36:37,334
low-income. Again, thank you

1093
00:36:37,334 --> 00:36:38,999
for the great work. And I hope

1094
00:36:38,999 --> 00:36:40,834
we can have those considerations

1095
00:36:40,834 --> 00:36:41,334
discussed in the future.

1096
00:36:41,334 --> 00:36:42,830
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1097
00:36:42,830 --> 00:36:43,999
chair: thank you, carlos.

1098
00:36:43,999 --> 00:36:45,959
amy, did you want to comment?

1099
00:36:45,959 --> 00:36:46,667
>>amy r. Worth: thank you

1100
00:36:46,667 --> 00:36:48,375
mr. Chair. I apologize I tried

1101
00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:50,918
to get my hand up earlier, but I

1102
00:36:50,918 --> 00:36:52,542
wasn't fast enough. I just want

1103
00:36:52,542 --> 00:36:54,584
to share the comments that have

1104
00:36:54,584 --> 00:36:55,999
been made about the importance

1105
00:36:55,999 --> 00:36:56,834
of this effort and the

1106
00:36:56,834 --> 00:36:58,334
importance of collaboration.

1107
00:36:58,334 --> 00:36:59,751
and I know a number of you may

1108
00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:02,667
know that this has been in a

1109
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:05,125
number of forefront bay area

1110
00:37:05,125 --> 00:37:07,525
regional collaboration work it

1111
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:11,125
involves all of the regions,

1112
00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:13,000
agencies, plus the two relevant

1113
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
state agencies, tri-state

1114
00:37:17,459 --> 00:37:19,459
agencies caltrans coastal

1115
00:37:19,876 --> 00:37:22,250
conservancy and water quality

1116
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:25,250
control board the goal and

1117
00:37:25,459 --> 00:37:28,459
development, bcdc has been doing

1118
00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:31,000
the heavy lifting in the

1119
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,375
developing of the plan, and

1120
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,334
second, advocacy for the efforts

1121
00:37:34,334 --> 00:37:37,876
of funding for these plans this

1122
00:37:37,876 --> 00:37:39,542
is going to take state and

1123
00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:41,250
federal dollars to supplement

1124
00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:44,792
local government and we need to

1125
00:37:44,792 --> 00:37:47,000
look to the corporations, land

1126
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,792
owners, to help support this.

1127
00:37:48,792 --> 00:37:51,125
and I want to thank bcdc for

1128
00:37:51,125 --> 00:37:53,959
going around to all the mayor's

1129
00:37:53,959 --> 00:37:54,999
conferences. In our

1130
00:37:54,999 --> 00:37:56,250
conversations in the past around

1131
00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:58,334
the plan and building regional

1132
00:37:58,334 --> 00:37:59,999
awareness of it that was one of

1133
00:37:59,999 --> 00:38:01,501
the priorities that we all had

1134
00:38:01,501 --> 00:38:02,250
identified together and I know

1135
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:04,751
that our county was really

1136
00:38:04,751 --> 00:38:06,375
grateful, our mayors and council

1137
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:07,999
members were really grateful to

1138
00:38:07,999 --> 00:38:09,999
have the opportunity to hear,

1139
00:38:09,999 --> 00:38:12,999
you know, directly about the

1140
00:38:12,999 --> 00:38:14,250
plan, and recognizing that

1141
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:17,850
these, you know, those -- bay

1142
00:38:17,999 --> 00:38:19,999
rise, is, you know, we're unique

1143
00:38:19,999 --> 00:38:21,999
in california, because of the

1144
00:38:21,999 --> 00:38:23,999
tremendous resource of the bay

1145
00:38:23,999 --> 00:38:25,584
and the fact that all of our

1146
00:38:25,584 --> 00:38:27,584
counties are impacted and cities

1147
00:38:27,584 --> 00:38:30,876
are. So, thank you very, very

1148
00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:32,876
much, and we'll continue to

1149
00:38:32,876 --> 00:38:34,999
discuss this at barc and to

1150
00:38:34,999 --> 00:38:36,417
ensure that all of our agencies

1151
00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:38,417
are continually working

1152
00:38:38,626 --> 00:38:40,167
together. And I really also

1153
00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:42,542
want to thank the executive

1154
00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:43,999
directors of all the regional

1155
00:38:43,999 --> 00:38:45,792
agencies. Because from that

1156
00:38:45,792 --> 00:38:46,876
executive perspective, this has

1157
00:38:46,876 --> 00:38:48,459
been a real priority in terms of

1158
00:38:48,459 --> 00:38:49,542
coming together and identifying

1159
00:38:49,542 --> 00:38:51,292
how we can all work together and

1160
00:38:51,292 --> 00:38:53,834
be one voice when we advocate

1161
00:38:53,834 --> 00:38:56,167
and go to sacramento for these

1162
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,584
funds and also to the federal

1163
00:38:58,584 --> 00:39:00,709
advocacy. So, thank you.

1164
00:39:00,709 --> 00:39:01,250
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1165
00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:02,334
chair: okay. Thank you.

1166
00:39:02,334 --> 00:39:04,501
seeing no other hands. Rachel

1167
00:39:04,501 --> 00:39:05,999
and nicholas, thank you for the

1168
00:39:05,999 --> 00:39:07,125
presentation. I want to thank

1169
00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:09,834
all the bcdc staff. I see

1170
00:39:09,834 --> 00:39:11,999
there's a bunch of you on here,

1171
00:39:11,999 --> 00:39:13,999
for all your good work, and

1172
00:39:13,999 --> 00:39:16,830
thank you, larry, for jumping in

1173
00:39:16,830 --> 00:39:18,125
on this meeting. Thank you

1174
00:39:18,125 --> 00:39:20,000
everyone for this presentation.

1175
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,876
>>larry goldzband: thank you.

1176
00:39:20,876 --> 00:39:21,417
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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00:39:21,417 --> 00:39:21,999
chair: let's move on to

1178
00:39:21,999 --> 00:39:24,709
something that's a little less

1179
00:39:24,709 --> 00:39:25,834
controversial than sea level

1180
00:39:25,834 --> 00:39:27,999
rise. This is going to our

1181
00:39:27,999 --> 00:39:30,250
transit oriented communities. I

1182
00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:31,999
believe, therese, you're going

1183
00:39:31,999 --> 00:39:33,999
to give an introduction and kick

1184
00:39:33,999 --> 00:39:35,918
this off, and after therese

1185
00:39:35,918 --> 00:39:37,334
we're going to turn it over to

1186
00:39:37,334 --> 00:39:39,000
staff. They're going to do the

1187
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,999
presentation, and committee

1188
00:39:39,999 --> 00:39:41,292
members I would like to get your

1189
00:39:41,292 --> 00:39:43,626
comments then move into public

1190
00:39:43,626 --> 00:39:44,999
comments and either other

1191
00:39:44,999 --> 00:39:48,209
members of mtc or abag want that

1192
00:39:48,209 --> 00:39:50,250
to comment. With that, therese.

1193
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:52,542
give us the introduction.

1194
00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:54,167
>>therese mcmillan: okay.

1195
00:39:54,167 --> 00:39:56,250
thanks so much chair spering.

1196
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:57,876
and I appreciate having a couple

1197
00:39:57,876 --> 00:39:59,417
of minutes to set some context

1198
00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:01,834
for this item, which, upon

1199
00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:05,209
review did not leap off of the

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00:40:05,209 --> 00:40:09,409
page of the page they sent to

1201
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:14,420
you. And it's really important

1202
00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:16,000
to framing this discussion they

1203
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,999
would like to have with

1204
00:40:17,999 --> 00:40:19,751
commissioners and executive

1205
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:22,167
director items. At the end of

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00:40:22,167 --> 00:40:24,167
2021 the commission and

1207
00:40:24,999 --> 00:40:27,501
executive board took action on

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00:40:27,501 --> 00:40:29,250
two extraordinary efforts,

1209
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:31,209
planned bay area 2050 and rhna

1210
00:40:31,209 --> 00:40:32,751
cycle six and both efforts

1211
00:40:32,751 --> 00:40:34,834
stretched the region beyond any

1212
00:40:34,834 --> 00:40:36,584
previous planning mandates we

1213
00:40:36,584 --> 00:40:38,984
had. It resulted in 35

1214
00:40:39,501 --> 00:40:40,417
ambitious strategies in

1215
00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:41,959
transportation, housing, the

1216
00:40:41,959 --> 00:40:43,542
economy, and the environment

1217
00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:45,626
under planned bay area 2050 that

1218
00:40:45,626 --> 00:40:48,999
had to, among other things, meet

1219
00:40:48,999 --> 00:40:51,375
an exceedingly tough ghg

1220
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,000
reduction target.

1221
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,876
and with rhna, we had to assign

1222
00:40:55,876 --> 00:40:57,292
regional targets that had never

1223
00:40:57,292 --> 00:40:59,692
been higher, reflecting the

1224
00:41:04,959 --> 00:41:07,830
undisputed housing crisis across

1225
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:09,250
california and in parallel we

1226
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:10,876
wanted to develop tools to help

1227
00:41:10,876 --> 00:41:12,792
our jurisdictions plan for those

1228
00:41:12,792 --> 00:41:14,584
targets. In addition, mtc and

1229
00:41:14,584 --> 00:41:17,000
abag, last year, assumed the new

1230
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,125
authorities and responsibilities

1231
00:41:18,125 --> 00:41:20,375
under the legislative mantle of

1232
00:41:20,375 --> 00:41:22,751
the bay area housing financing

1233
00:41:22,751 --> 00:41:25,751
authority to lead advances in

1234
00:41:25,834 --> 00:41:27,834
housing production, preservation

1235
00:41:27,999 --> 00:41:30,999
and protection for those that

1236
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,918
seek to live in this region in

1237
00:41:34,918 --> 00:41:36,918
affordable places benefitting

1238
00:41:37,334 --> 00:41:38,375
inclusive communities that

1239
00:41:38,375 --> 00:41:39,542
should be -- that everyone

1240
00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:41,375
should be able to call home.

1241
00:41:41,375 --> 00:41:44,975
and, you, as our board members,

1242
00:41:45,999 --> 00:41:47,999
stepped forward to adopt and

1243
00:41:47,999 --> 00:41:50,399
embrace planned bay area 2050,

1244
00:41:50,876 --> 00:41:53,125
rhna six, and the bahfa

1245
00:41:53,125 --> 00:41:54,999
directives. But in doing so, I

1246
00:41:54,999 --> 00:41:57,420
think we all collectively new

1247
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,830
that carrying out these

1248
00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:01,375
objectives was going to be

1249
00:42:01,375 --> 00:42:03,250
really hard.

1250
00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:05,650
and would require finding

1251
00:42:06,626 --> 00:42:07,792
intersections with many

1252
00:42:07,792 --> 00:42:09,751
different policies to achieve

1253
00:42:09,751 --> 00:42:11,584
those objectives.

1254
00:42:11,584 --> 00:42:14,584
the proposed -- bold --

1255
00:42:16,999 --> 00:42:19,399
underlined -- proposed toc

1256
00:42:19,999 --> 00:42:21,125
policy that we have before you

1257
00:42:21,125 --> 00:42:22,751
today is a critical opportunity

1258
00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:25,151
to find those reinforcing

1259
00:42:25,417 --> 00:42:28,417
intersections, and staff took an

1260
00:42:28,918 --> 00:42:30,834
admittedly bold move up from the

1261
00:42:30,834 --> 00:42:32,999
current toc policy in framing

1262
00:42:32,999 --> 00:42:34,375
the draft that we put before

1263
00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:35,167
you.

1264
00:42:35,167 --> 00:42:37,417
now, this is not the only

1265
00:42:37,417 --> 00:42:38,999
intersection where planned bay

1266
00:42:38,999 --> 00:42:41,999
area 2050, rhna, and bahfa goals

1267
00:42:41,999 --> 00:42:44,626
need to meet, but it is a timely

1268
00:42:44,626 --> 00:42:46,626
one that staff will explain in

1269
00:42:46,626 --> 00:42:48,626
our presentation.

1270
00:42:48,876 --> 00:42:52,476
that said, as the toc policy

1271
00:42:53,501 --> 00:42:55,375
parameters emerge, there are

1272
00:42:55,375 --> 00:42:57,375
essential considerations to

1273
00:42:57,667 --> 00:42:59,459
ensure that they can be carried

1274
00:42:59,459 --> 00:43:01,459
out successfully.

1275
00:43:01,918 --> 00:43:04,292
a few to keep in mind at the

1276
00:43:04,292 --> 00:43:07,892
outset: this policy will not be

1277
00:43:08,999 --> 00:43:11,542
done tomorrow, nor in a very

1278
00:43:11,542 --> 00:43:15,142
short time frame. Much like the

1279
00:43:15,751 --> 00:43:18,167
existing toc policy, it is

1280
00:43:18,167 --> 00:43:19,417
expected to guide multiple years

1281
00:43:19,417 --> 00:43:21,584
of transportation and land use

1282
00:43:21,584 --> 00:43:23,209
coordination and necessarily

1283
00:43:23,209 --> 00:43:24,417
needs to be implemented in

1284
00:43:24,417 --> 00:43:25,626
stages.

1285
00:43:25,626 --> 00:43:27,999
it needs, also, to be able to

1286
00:43:27,999 --> 00:43:30,876
overlay and adapt to legislative

1287
00:43:30,876 --> 00:43:33,876
requirements that may come in

1288
00:43:33,999 --> 00:43:36,125
current or future legislation,

1289
00:43:36,125 --> 00:43:37,417
both in transportation and

1290
00:43:37,417 --> 00:43:39,626
housing that may impact the

1291
00:43:39,626 --> 00:43:42,626
boundaries of the policy as its

1292
00:43:42,626 --> 00:43:45,420
ultimately framed. It does not

1293
00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:46,999
assume that all existing

1294
00:43:46,999 --> 00:43:48,501
planning efforts, especially

1295
00:43:48,501 --> 00:43:52,101
those under our pda program are

1296
00:43:52,542 --> 00:43:55,999
stripped down to the studs, to

1297
00:43:55,999 --> 00:43:59,599
use a housing analogy. We need

1298
00:44:01,876 --> 00:44:03,876
a thoughtful transition plan to

1299
00:44:03,876 --> 00:44:07,830
help guide today to where we're

1300
00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:09,834
going to go with a new key

1301
00:44:09,834 --> 00:44:11,209
policy structure that's going to

1302
00:44:11,209 --> 00:44:13,876
go to an essential element of

1303
00:44:13,876 --> 00:44:14,667
implementation consideration.

1304
00:44:14,667 --> 00:44:16,751
and finally, and certainly not

1305
00:44:16,751 --> 00:44:18,459
the least, flexibility is key.

1306
00:44:18,459 --> 00:44:20,501
and staff seeks to build factors

1307
00:44:20,501 --> 00:44:22,334
into the new policy that allows

1308
00:44:22,334 --> 00:44:24,734
for the successful application

1309
00:44:24,999 --> 00:44:26,999
of indifferent environs

1310
00:44:32,918 --> 00:44:34,334
throughout this region. With

1311
00:44:34,334 --> 00:44:35,959
that important context, I would

1312
00:44:35,959 --> 00:44:39,375
like to turn it over to matt

1313
00:44:39,375 --> 00:44:40,125
maloney to begin the

1314
00:44:40,125 --> 00:44:40,918
presentation. Thank you.

1315
00:44:40,918 --> 00:44:42,417
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1316
00:44:42,417 --> 00:44:44,817
chair: thank you. Matt?

1317
00:44:44,918 --> 00:44:46,125
>>matt maloney: thanks therese.

1318
00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:48,830
I don't have a whole lot in to

1319
00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:51,830
add. Therese covered it well.

1320
00:44:52,999 --> 00:44:55,399
planned bay area 2050 forecasted

1321
00:44:55,501 --> 00:44:57,901
82% of all future household

1322
00:44:57,918 --> 00:45:00,918
growth. And 63% of all future

1323
00:45:02,459 --> 00:45:06,590
job growth really in this these

1324
00:45:06,626 --> 00:45:08,375
rich areas. Many of which are

1325
00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:09,709
also priority development areas.

1326
00:45:09,709 --> 00:45:11,459
and as therese mentioned that's

1327
00:45:11,459 --> 00:45:13,125
really the focal point and

1328
00:45:13,125 --> 00:45:14,834
driving force of how we tamp

1329
00:45:14,834 --> 00:45:16,834
down on rising vehicle miles

1330
00:45:16,834 --> 00:45:18,751
traveled and also reduce ghg.

1331
00:45:18,751 --> 00:45:21,000
and so these areas, transit-rich

1332
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,375
areas, is really the focus of

1333
00:45:22,375 --> 00:45:23,999
this presentation today. And I

1334
00:45:23,999 --> 00:45:25,918
just want to kind of underscore

1335
00:45:25,918 --> 00:45:28,626
that it's those areas that we're

1336
00:45:28,626 --> 00:45:31,125
focused on. You know, it is

1337
00:45:31,125 --> 00:45:34,125
bold, as therese mentioned, and,

1338
00:45:34,501 --> 00:45:36,999
you know, we have come a long

1339
00:45:36,999 --> 00:45:39,834
ways since 2005, which is the

1340
00:45:39,834 --> 00:45:41,999
last time we did this strategy.

1341
00:45:41,999 --> 00:45:43,459
we have a broader application

1342
00:45:43,459 --> 00:45:45,334
here looking at both existing

1343
00:45:45,334 --> 00:45:46,999
corridors, as well as new

1344
00:45:46,999 --> 00:45:49,375
corridors, and, but therese

1345
00:45:49,375 --> 00:45:50,999
mentioned also the flexibility

1346
00:45:50,999 --> 00:45:52,959
as well that's inherent in the

1347
00:45:52,959 --> 00:45:54,792
policy looking at not just

1348
00:45:54,792 --> 00:45:56,420
residential but also commercial

1349
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:58,999
and job growth, as well.

1350
00:45:58,999 --> 00:46:00,792
you know, and as well as the

1351
00:46:00,792 --> 00:46:02,209
three ps of housing, which you

1352
00:46:02,209 --> 00:46:05,809
will notice are, also, kind of

1353
00:46:06,709 --> 00:46:07,999
interwoven into this policy

1354
00:46:07,999 --> 00:46:09,334
update today. And that's just

1355
00:46:09,334 --> 00:46:10,709
really to ensure that when we

1356
00:46:10,709 --> 00:46:12,626
make major changes or plan for

1357
00:46:12,626 --> 00:46:14,959
major changes in these station

1358
00:46:14,959 --> 00:46:16,751
areas, that we ensure that these

1359
00:46:16,751 --> 00:46:19,125
are places for people of all

1360
00:46:19,125 --> 00:46:20,375
income levels.

1361
00:46:20,375 --> 00:46:22,375
so, you know, totally agree with

1362
00:46:22,375 --> 00:46:24,209
the phase-in period. Really

1363
00:46:24,209 --> 00:46:26,000
want to take your temperature on

1364
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,459
the policy itself today, and

1365
00:46:27,459 --> 00:46:29,334
then really return and get

1366
00:46:29,334 --> 00:46:30,999
commission direction on kind of

1367
00:46:30,999 --> 00:46:32,667
how it gets phased in and

1368
00:46:32,667 --> 00:46:34,250
really, just the timing for all

1369
00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:35,167
of that.

1370
00:46:35,167 --> 00:46:38,767
today, on the staffing, we have

1371
00:46:39,292 --> 00:46:41,692
got kara vuicich. Project

1372
00:46:42,999 --> 00:46:44,876
manager on the study who will

1373
00:46:44,876 --> 00:46:46,375
give the presentation, theresa

1374
00:46:46,375 --> 00:46:48,999
is also here who is our director

1375
00:46:48,999 --> 00:46:52,000
of mobility. I will pass it to

1376
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,600
kara to get the ball rolling.

1377
00:46:56,876 --> 00:46:57,999
>>kara vuicich: thank you. If

1378
00:46:57,999 --> 00:46:59,000
we could bring up the

1379
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,959
presentation. Good morning.

1380
00:46:59,959 --> 00:47:01,501
it's still morning, committee

1381
00:47:01,501 --> 00:47:04,375
members. And, as matt said,

1382
00:47:04,375 --> 00:47:06,000
this is an information item that

1383
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,999
provides an overview of the very

1384
00:47:07,999 --> 00:47:10,999
initial draft proposal for a

1385
00:47:11,417 --> 00:47:13,417
transit oriented communities

1386
00:47:13,999 --> 00:47:15,375
policy, the approach and

1387
00:47:15,375 --> 00:47:17,542
requirements. And this would

1388
00:47:17,542 --> 00:47:19,542
replace the 2005 resolution 3434

1389
00:47:20,667 --> 00:47:22,417
transit oriented development

1390
00:47:22,417 --> 00:47:23,834
policy.

1391
00:47:23,834 --> 00:47:25,584
and a quick note on the name

1392
00:47:25,584 --> 00:47:27,709
change, or the proposed name

1393
00:47:27,709 --> 00:47:29,999
changer. So in order to

1394
00:47:29,999 --> 00:47:31,000
emphasize the importance of

1395
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,959
broader transit oriented

1396
00:47:32,959 --> 00:47:34,626
communities versus individual

1397
00:47:34,626 --> 00:47:36,830
development projects at transit

1398
00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:38,483
stations and along transit

1399
00:47:38,542 --> 00:47:40,918
corridors the proposal changes

1400
00:47:40,918 --> 00:47:42,959
the policies name from transit

1401
00:47:42,959 --> 00:47:45,959
oriented development or tod to

1402
00:47:45,959 --> 00:47:47,999
transit oriented communities or

1403
00:47:47,999 --> 00:47:50,000
toc. Last we presented to the

1404
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,417
committee in spring of 2020 so

1405
00:47:52,417 --> 00:47:55,417
it's been little while and

1406
00:47:57,626 --> 00:47:59,459
provided you a summary timeline

1407
00:47:59,459 --> 00:48:01,501
and process for stakeholder

1408
00:48:01,501 --> 00:48:02,999
engagement. Since that time we

1409
00:48:02,999 --> 00:48:05,399
have convened a technical

1410
00:48:05,959 --> 00:48:07,959
advisory committee that includes

1411
00:48:07,959 --> 00:48:08,667
representatives from transit

1412
00:48:08,667 --> 00:48:10,830
agencies, local jurisdictions,

1413
00:48:10,830 --> 00:48:11,501
county transportation agencies,

1414
00:48:11,501 --> 00:48:12,999
as well as from other

1415
00:48:12,999 --> 00:48:13,999
transportation and housing

1416
00:48:13,999 --> 00:48:14,999
organizations.

1417
00:48:14,999 --> 00:48:17,999
the toc has already provide

1418
00:48:19,959 --> 00:48:22,250
feedback on elements of the

1419
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:24,792
draft policy proposal and I have

1420
00:48:24,792 --> 00:48:25,667
included some of that in the

1421
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:26,999
presentation today. And we'll

1422
00:48:26,999 --> 00:48:29,420
be continuing to work with the

1423
00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:32,420
toc members as well as

1424
00:48:32,375 --> 00:48:35,375
stakeholders as we move forward

1425
00:48:35,459 --> 00:48:37,000
with further refining and

1426
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,667
revising the draft that we're

1427
00:48:38,667 --> 00:48:40,830
going to present. Next slide

1428
00:48:40,830 --> 00:48:42,830
please.

1429
00:48:47,751 --> 00:48:49,250
as you know planned bay area

1430
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:52,125
2050 was adopted a few months

1431
00:48:52,125 --> 00:48:53,626
ago it provides the basis for

1432
00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:56,626
the trance atlantic policy draft

1433
00:48:57,959 --> 00:48:59,792
policy proposal addresses

1434
00:48:59,792 --> 00:49:01,542
multiple strategies from all

1435
00:49:01,542 --> 00:49:03,420
elements of the plan including

1436
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:04,417
transportation housing economic

1437
00:49:04,417 --> 00:49:05,999
and environmental strategies for

1438
00:49:05,999 --> 00:49:08,918
key focus of the policy

1439
00:49:08,918 --> 00:49:10,000
implementing the plan strategies

1440
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,999
that will increase the number of

1441
00:49:11,999 --> 00:49:13,751
households and jobs near the

1442
00:49:13,751 --> 00:49:15,751
region's rail, ferry and

1443
00:49:15,751 --> 00:49:17,999
frequent bus stops in stations

1444
00:49:17,999 --> 00:49:18,709
implementation of these

1445
00:49:18,709 --> 00:49:19,792
strategies is projected to

1446
00:49:19,792 --> 00:49:21,999
result in an additional

1447
00:49:21,999 --> 00:49:24,420
1.1 million households and about

1448
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:26,830
900,000 jobs located in these

1449
00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:28,751
areas by 2050 and is a key

1450
00:49:28,751 --> 00:49:30,501
component of meeting the plan's

1451
00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:31,167
greenhouse gas reduction

1452
00:49:31,167 --> 00:49:33,567
targets. Next slide please.

1453
00:49:33,999 --> 00:49:36,584
so like the original transit

1454
00:49:36,584 --> 00:49:37,999
oriented development policy the

1455
00:49:37,999 --> 00:49:39,375
proposed transit oriented

1456
00:49:39,375 --> 00:49:40,999
communities policy focuses on

1457
00:49:40,999 --> 00:49:42,334
areas where transit investments

1458
00:49:42,334 --> 00:49:44,918
in high quality transit, namely

1459
00:49:44,918 --> 00:49:46,792
this is rail, ferry, and

1460
00:49:46,792 --> 00:49:48,584
frequent bus services or plans

1461
00:49:48,584 --> 00:49:51,420
and it ties implementation of

1462
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:52,999
various strategies particularly

1463
00:49:52,999 --> 00:49:54,250
focused on increasing

1464
00:49:54,250 --> 00:49:55,999
residential commercial densities

1465
00:49:55,999 --> 00:49:57,918
in transit-rich areas to

1466
00:49:57,918 --> 00:49:59,709
implementation of bay area

1467
00:49:59,709 --> 00:50:01,417
transit investments four

1468
00:50:01,417 --> 00:50:05,170
proposed toc policy goals on the

1469
00:50:05,999 --> 00:50:08,167
left side first increase density

1470
00:50:08,167 --> 00:50:09,375
for new residential development

1471
00:50:09,375 --> 00:50:10,626
and prioritize affordable

1472
00:50:10,626 --> 00:50:12,999
housing in transit-rich areas

1473
00:50:12,999 --> 00:50:14,792
which are locations within one

1474
00:50:14,792 --> 00:50:16,375
half mile of transit stops or

1475
00:50:16,375 --> 00:50:19,250
stations that provide ferry rail

1476
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:22,250
or frequent bus service second

1477
00:50:22,375 --> 00:50:24,375
increase densities for

1478
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:32,420
commercial development hubs

1479
00:50:32,375 --> 00:50:33,999
serving multiple transit

1480
00:50:33,999 --> 00:50:35,999
provides 30 gold complements

1481
00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:38,999
first two goals which seek to

1482
00:50:38,999 --> 00:50:40,334
locate more housing in

1483
00:50:40,334 --> 00:50:42,334
transit-rich areas typically

1484
00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:45,375
with then minute walks and

1485
00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,775
finally goals for continuing

1486
00:50:47,999 --> 00:50:49,876
regional support facilitation

1487
00:50:49,876 --> 00:50:51,667
partnerships and implement toc

1488
00:50:51,667 --> 00:50:52,999
policies to create equitable

1489
00:50:52,999 --> 00:50:54,999
transit oriented communities

1490
00:50:55,501 --> 00:50:57,420
within our region next provide

1491
00:50:57,420 --> 00:51:00,334
be detail on proposed toc policy

1492
00:51:00,334 --> 00:51:02,209
applications to areas where

1493
00:51:02,209 --> 00:51:04,292
investments in rail, ferry and

1494
00:51:04,292 --> 00:51:05,459
frequent bus transit are

1495
00:51:05,459 --> 00:51:06,999
planned. Next slide. Again

1496
00:51:06,999 --> 00:51:08,667
we're propose that the policy

1497
00:51:08,667 --> 00:51:09,999
apply to priority development

1498
00:51:09,999 --> 00:51:12,399
areas or transit-rich areas

1499
00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:14,709
where planned bay area

1500
00:51:14,709 --> 00:51:16,167
investments and rail fore and

1501
00:51:16,167 --> 00:51:17,792
frequent bus service are

1502
00:51:17,792 --> 00:51:19,834
planned. This would include

1503
00:51:19,834 --> 00:51:20,501
transit-rich priority

1504
00:51:20,501 --> 00:51:22,375
development areas as well as

1505
00:51:22,375 --> 00:51:24,459
existing or future transit-rich

1506
00:51:24,459 --> 00:51:27,167
areas where a pda has not yet

1507
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,959
been designated what this means

1508
00:51:28,959 --> 00:51:30,209
or what this would potentially

1509
00:51:30,209 --> 00:51:31,918
look like is that transit-rich

1510
00:51:31,918 --> 00:51:34,334
pdas that do not currently

1511
00:51:34,334 --> 00:51:36,125
comply with the toc policy

1512
00:51:36,125 --> 00:51:37,459
requirements may need to update

1513
00:51:37,459 --> 00:51:39,334
or adopt plans or ordinances in

1514
00:51:39,334 --> 00:51:41,501
order to comply. Those that

1515
00:51:41,501 --> 00:51:43,918
already comply would not need to

1516
00:51:43,918 --> 00:51:45,626
take any further action for

1517
00:51:45,626 --> 00:51:47,000
locations where a transit-rich

1518
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,209
pda has not been designated a

1519
00:51:49,209 --> 00:51:51,292
local jurisdiction would still

1520
00:51:51,292 --> 00:51:53,125
need to comply with the toc

1521
00:51:53,125 --> 00:51:55,375
policy requirements. Mtc would

1522
00:51:55,375 --> 00:51:58,975
strongly encourage that a pda be

1523
00:51:59,584 --> 00:52:00,834
designated in those locations

1524
00:52:00,834 --> 00:52:03,209
but a decision of pda would not

1525
00:52:03,209 --> 00:52:04,959
be required in order to comply

1526
00:52:04,959 --> 00:52:07,876
with a toc policy. I want to

1527
00:52:07,876 --> 00:52:09,000
emphasize that we anticipate

1528
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,709
implementation of the toc policy

1529
00:52:10,709 --> 00:52:13,459
in these areas would happen over

1530
00:52:13,459 --> 00:52:14,584
multiple years and again would

1531
00:52:14,584 --> 00:52:16,830
be coordinated with planned

1532
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:17,834
transit investments. Next slide

1533
00:52:17,834 --> 00:52:19,834
please.

1534
00:52:20,959 --> 00:52:22,959
so as discussed on the previous

1535
00:52:22,959 --> 00:52:25,959
slide, the toc policy, again,

1536
00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:27,751
would apply to location where is

1537
00:52:27,751 --> 00:52:29,834
we're making investment in rail,

1538
00:52:29,834 --> 00:52:32,626
ferry and frequent bus service

1539
00:52:32,626 --> 00:52:33,999
includes areas where new

1540
00:52:33,999 --> 00:52:35,334
stations would be created as a

1541
00:52:35,334 --> 00:52:36,918
result of expansion or extension

1542
00:52:36,918 --> 00:52:38,830
projects as well as existing

1543
00:52:38,830 --> 00:52:40,334
stops and stations where major

1544
00:52:40,334 --> 00:52:42,420
improvements or enhancements to

1545
00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:44,442
existing transit service plans.

1546
00:52:46,375 --> 00:52:48,209
new stations along transit

1547
00:52:48,209 --> 00:52:49,417
expansions or extensions

1548
00:52:49,417 --> 00:52:50,876
proposed policy would require

1549
00:52:50,876 --> 00:52:52,709
all policy requirements be met

1550
00:52:52,709 --> 00:52:54,334
by local jurisdictions before

1551
00:52:54,334 --> 00:52:55,209
discretionary funds are

1552
00:52:55,209 --> 00:52:56,375
programmed for construction of

1553
00:52:56,375 --> 00:52:58,792
the transit project or before

1554
00:52:58,792 --> 00:53:00,626
mtc would provide endorsement

1555
00:53:00,626 --> 00:53:02,667
for project funding similar to

1556
00:53:02,667 --> 00:53:04,959
the approach from the original

1557
00:53:04,959 --> 00:53:07,876
2005tod policy and seeks to

1558
00:53:07,876 --> 00:53:09,999
support planning and zoning are

1559
00:53:09,999 --> 00:53:11,459
in place before transit

1560
00:53:11,459 --> 00:53:12,999
expansion or extension becomes

1561
00:53:12,999 --> 00:53:14,542
operational for transit

1562
00:53:14,542 --> 00:53:16,250
enhancement or improvement

1563
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:18,650
projects where transit are

1564
00:53:18,918 --> 00:53:20,000
already operating transit

1565
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,876
project funding would not be

1566
00:53:21,876 --> 00:53:23,830
tied to policy compliance

1567
00:53:23,830 --> 00:53:24,792
instead focus would be on

1568
00:53:24,792 --> 00:53:26,501
providing planning and technical

1569
00:53:26,501 --> 00:53:28,542
assistance initially as part of

1570
00:53:28,542 --> 00:53:30,375
obag 3 and reap 2.0 to assist

1571
00:53:30,375 --> 00:53:31,999
with compliance in coordination

1572
00:53:31,999 --> 00:53:33,999
with near-term transit

1573
00:53:33,999 --> 00:53:35,501
enhancements and improvement

1574
00:53:35,501 --> 00:53:37,167
projects that said staff is

1575
00:53:37,167 --> 00:53:38,459
proposing that a

1576
00:53:38,459 --> 00:53:40,459
jurisdictional's eligibility for

1577
00:53:40,999 --> 00:53:43,999
future cycles obag four even

1578
00:53:44,334 --> 00:53:46,876
later cycles would be contingent

1579
00:53:46,876 --> 00:53:48,999
upon toc policy compliance we

1580
00:53:48,999 --> 00:53:50,626
anticipate toc policy

1581
00:53:50,626 --> 00:53:51,751
implementation will be phased

1582
00:53:51,751 --> 00:53:54,151
over multiple years in

1583
00:53:54,209 --> 00:53:55,584
coordination with transit

1584
00:53:55,584 --> 00:53:56,999
improvements. Next several

1585
00:53:56,999 --> 00:53:58,792
slides discuss key differences

1586
00:53:58,792 --> 00:54:01,792
between 2005toc policy and draft

1587
00:54:02,417 --> 00:54:05,417
toc policy proposal. Next slide

1588
00:54:06,834 --> 00:54:08,250
please. Thank you. In short

1589
00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:10,999
the proposed toc policy would

1590
00:54:10,999 --> 00:54:14,420
apply much more broadly than the

1591
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:16,442
2005tod policy. The 2005tod

1592
00:54:18,501 --> 00:54:20,959
policy only applied to specific

1593
00:54:20,959 --> 00:54:22,834
named transit expansion projects

1594
00:54:22,834 --> 00:54:24,918
that were included in mtc

1595
00:54:24,918 --> 00:54:26,918
resolution 3434. Requiring a

1596
00:54:26,999 --> 00:54:28,751
minimum number of housing units

1597
00:54:28,751 --> 00:54:30,999
either be zoned or built within

1598
00:54:30,999 --> 00:54:33,667
a half mile of new stations

1599
00:54:33,667 --> 00:54:35,751
along the transit corridor in

1600
00:54:35,751 --> 00:54:37,501
contrast the communities policy

1601
00:54:37,501 --> 00:54:39,792
would apply to all stops and

1602
00:54:39,792 --> 00:54:41,999
stations affected by planned bay

1603
00:54:41,999 --> 00:54:43,584
area investments in rail, ferry

1604
00:54:43,584 --> 00:54:45,459
and frequent bus service

1605
00:54:45,459 --> 00:54:46,709
including extensions or

1606
00:54:46,709 --> 00:54:47,959
expansions as well as stations

1607
00:54:47,959 --> 00:54:49,918
or stops affected by major

1608
00:54:49,918 --> 00:54:51,918
transit improvements

1609
00:54:55,830 --> 00:54:56,542
enhancements. Next slide

1610
00:54:56,542 --> 00:54:57,834
please. I'm going to present

1611
00:54:57,834 --> 00:54:59,709
the proposed toc policy

1612
00:54:59,709 --> 00:55:01,999
requirement in more detail later

1613
00:55:01,999 --> 00:55:03,000
in the presentation but this

1614
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,000
slide provides an overview and

1615
00:55:07,999 --> 00:55:09,830
comparison between requirements

1616
00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:11,375
from the transit orient the

1617
00:55:11,375 --> 00:55:12,999
development policy and toc

1618
00:55:12,999 --> 00:55:15,999
policy. The 2005tod policy set

1619
00:55:16,542 --> 00:55:18,942
minimum thresholds for existing

1620
00:55:18,999 --> 00:55:20,209
housing units along certain

1621
00:55:20,209 --> 00:55:22,209
transit expansion corridors

1622
00:55:22,709 --> 00:55:24,420
based on type of service

1623
00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:25,250
provided affordable housing

1624
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:28,167
units were given extra weight in

1625
00:55:28,167 --> 00:55:31,830
terms of meeting thresholds toc

1626
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:33,483
policy requirements build from

1627
00:55:33,918 --> 00:55:34,792
complemented priority

1628
00:55:34,792 --> 00:55:36,792
development areas guidelines

1629
00:55:36,918 --> 00:55:38,125
focusing on key elements from

1630
00:55:38,125 --> 00:55:39,876
the guidelines that will be

1631
00:55:39,876 --> 00:55:41,459
required to implement planned

1632
00:55:41,459 --> 00:55:42,959
bay area consequently proposed

1633
00:55:42,959 --> 00:55:45,359
toc policy requirements address

1634
00:55:45,417 --> 00:55:46,876
residential commercial density

1635
00:55:46,876 --> 00:55:47,999
around transit stops and

1636
00:55:47,999 --> 00:55:49,250
stations affordable housing in

1637
00:55:49,250 --> 00:55:51,250
know anti-displacement policies

1638
00:55:51,751 --> 00:55:52,999
parking management station

1639
00:55:52,999 --> 00:55:55,125
access and circulation including

1640
00:55:55,125 --> 00:55:57,525
connectivity to adjacent equity

1641
00:55:58,999 --> 00:56:01,250
priority communities that remain

1642
00:56:01,250 --> 00:56:03,626
outside the half mile station

1643
00:56:03,626 --> 00:56:05,999
area. Next slide please. Like

1644
00:56:05,999 --> 00:56:08,999
the 2005tod policy the proposed

1645
00:56:09,542 --> 00:56:11,942
toc policy would condition

1646
00:56:11,999 --> 00:56:13,420
discretionary project funding as

1647
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:15,420
well as funding endorsements for

1648
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:17,420
transit expansions and

1649
00:56:17,501 --> 00:56:19,830
enhancements on whether a

1650
00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:20,667
jurisdiction has met policy

1651
00:56:20,667 --> 00:56:22,501
requirements key difference is

1652
00:56:22,501 --> 00:56:24,667
proposed toc policy would also

1653
00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:26,918
apply to areas around existing

1654
00:56:26,918 --> 00:56:29,318
stations where major transit

1655
00:56:29,876 --> 00:56:31,292
enhancements improvements are

1656
00:56:31,292 --> 00:56:33,420
planned local jurisdictions

1657
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:34,584
eligibility future regional

1658
00:56:34,584 --> 00:56:35,209
discretionary transportation you

1659
00:56:35,209 --> 00:56:36,999
funds you such as future cycles

1660
00:56:36,999 --> 00:56:39,399
and later conditioned on

1661
00:56:39,417 --> 00:56:41,417
compliance with policy

1662
00:56:41,501 --> 00:56:43,501
requirement difference between

1663
00:56:45,292 --> 00:56:48,292
the 2005 policy and toc policy

1664
00:56:48,626 --> 00:56:51,260
and further detail proposed

1665
00:56:52,584 --> 00:56:54,984
requirements. The toc policy

1666
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,292
requirements not only address

1667
00:56:57,292 --> 00:56:58,584
residential density around

1668
00:56:58,584 --> 00:57:00,125
transit stops and stations but

1669
00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:01,999
also commercial density for

1670
00:57:01,999 --> 00:57:04,420
office space requiring minimum

1671
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:06,000
residential and commercial

1672
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,999
densities for development in

1673
00:57:07,999 --> 00:57:10,542
transit-rich or pda or major

1674
00:57:10,542 --> 00:57:12,942
transit investments where pdas

1675
00:57:12,999 --> 00:57:16,599
are planned table shown on based

1676
00:57:16,999 --> 00:57:19,209
minimum densities at which new

1677
00:57:19,209 --> 00:57:20,876
development would need to be

1678
00:57:20,876 --> 00:57:23,834
built in order to implement the

1679
00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,999
plan. Based on transit service

1680
00:57:25,999 --> 00:57:27,417
that would be available with

1681
00:57:27,417 --> 00:57:29,209
highest densities required at

1682
00:57:29,209 --> 00:57:31,167
regional rail hubs served by

1683
00:57:31,167 --> 00:57:33,375
multiple bart lines bart and

1684
00:57:33,375 --> 00:57:34,667
caltrain I want to note this

1685
00:57:34,667 --> 00:57:35,999
requirement is not seeking to

1686
00:57:35,999 --> 00:57:37,542
specify one land use versus

1687
00:57:37,542 --> 00:57:40,334
another in a station area rather

1688
00:57:40,334 --> 00:57:42,751
to ensure average density of any

1689
00:57:42,751 --> 00:57:43,999
new residential or commercial

1690
00:57:43,999 --> 00:57:46,626
development is built at or above

1691
00:57:46,626 --> 00:57:48,626
specified minimums. Existing

1692
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,999
plans we took an initial look at

1693
00:57:51,999 --> 00:57:54,999
some existing plans and our

1694
00:57:55,375 --> 00:57:57,209
review indicates that the

1695
00:57:57,209 --> 00:57:59,125
proposed density ranges are

1696
00:57:59,125 --> 00:58:00,667
feasible however there can be

1697
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:02,250
significant variation in both

1698
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:05,250
land use types and intensities

1699
00:58:05,999 --> 00:58:08,399
within stations within a

1700
00:58:08,876 --> 00:58:11,000
surrounding area transit stop or

1701
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,830
station we're continuing to work

1702
00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:14,830
with stakeholders including

1703
00:58:14,999 --> 00:58:16,626
local jurisdictions and planning

1704
00:58:16,626 --> 00:58:18,709
staff to further refine the

1705
00:58:18,709 --> 00:58:20,626
proposed requirement to provide

1706
00:58:20,626 --> 00:58:23,125
official specificity as well as

1707
00:58:23,125 --> 00:58:24,420
flexibility in order to

1708
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:26,420
accommodate diversity throughout

1709
00:58:26,542 --> 00:58:27,459
the region as well as

1710
00:58:27,459 --> 00:58:30,459
significant land use within a

1711
00:58:31,626 --> 00:58:33,292
situation station area next

1712
00:58:33,292 --> 00:58:35,692
slide shows commercial projects

1713
00:58:35,999 --> 00:58:38,250
from around the bay area that

1714
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:40,876
indicate the range of density.

1715
00:58:40,876 --> 00:58:42,626
next slide. These are the

1716
00:58:42,626 --> 00:58:44,959
minimum densities proposed for

1717
00:58:44,959 --> 00:58:46,209
regional rail hubs the

1718
00:58:46,209 --> 00:58:47,501
residential projects that you

1719
00:58:47,501 --> 00:58:50,417
see on your right are from

1720
00:58:50,417 --> 00:58:51,417
downtown oakland and the

1721
00:58:51,417 --> 00:58:53,501
commercial projects on the left

1722
00:58:53,501 --> 00:58:55,751
-- sorry -- residential projects

1723
00:58:55,751 --> 00:58:57,167
on the left, commercial projects

1724
00:58:57,167 --> 00:58:59,375
on the right, are from downtown

1725
00:58:59,375 --> 00:59:00,709
oakland and downtown san

1726
00:59:00,709 --> 00:59:01,999
francisco.

1727
00:59:01,999 --> 00:59:03,999
next slide, please.

1728
00:59:04,999 --> 00:59:07,584
so for tier two this would

1729
00:59:07,584 --> 00:59:09,501
include regional rail such as

1730
00:59:09,501 --> 00:59:11,459
bart and caltrain light rail

1731
00:59:11,459 --> 00:59:13,667
transit bus rapid transit and

1732
00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:17,867
what you see are a project from

1733
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,999
san jose near downtown. On the

1734
00:59:20,999 --> 00:59:22,999
residential side. And then

1735
00:59:22,999 --> 00:59:25,999
another project from downtown --

1736
00:59:26,830 --> 00:59:28,000
the downtown south san francisco

1737
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,000
pda. The commercial projects on

1738
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,250
the right of the slide are from

1739
00:59:33,250 --> 00:59:36,250
the eastern neighborhoods pda in

1740
00:59:36,334 --> 00:59:39,667
san francisco and from the el

1741
00:59:39,667 --> 00:59:42,667
camino real pda in burlingame.

1742
00:59:42,999 --> 00:59:44,999
next slide please. Lastly, for

1743
00:59:44,999 --> 00:59:47,399
our examples, the residential

1744
00:59:48,334 --> 00:59:51,334
examples are from the greater

1745
00:59:51,918 --> 00:59:54,999
downtown pda in san jose for the

1746
00:59:54,999 --> 00:59:58,834
example on the top and then from

1747
00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:03,340
the pda in fremont on the bottom

1748
01:00:04,999 --> 01:00:07,334
level and then on the right we

1749
01:00:07,334 --> 01:00:09,751
have a project from san mateo

1750
01:00:09,751 --> 01:00:12,751
from their rail corridor pda,

1751
01:00:13,830 --> 01:00:16,167
and then on the bottom, from the

1752
01:00:16,167 --> 01:00:18,959
downtown redwood city pda. Next

1753
01:00:18,959 --> 01:00:20,959
slide please.

1754
01:00:21,999 --> 01:00:24,626
so this -- the proposed

1755
01:00:24,626 --> 01:00:25,459
requirements for affordable

1756
01:00:25,459 --> 01:00:27,459
housing and anti-displacement

1757
01:00:28,167 --> 01:00:30,167
focus on production,

1758
01:00:30,250 --> 01:00:31,417
preservation and protection of

1759
01:00:31,417 --> 01:00:32,999
affordable housing in

1760
01:00:32,999 --> 01:00:34,167
transit-rich areas.

1761
01:00:34,167 --> 01:00:35,459
this requirement supports

1762
01:00:35,459 --> 01:00:36,918
several planned bay area housing

1763
01:00:36,918 --> 01:00:38,209
strategies which are listed on

1764
01:00:38,209 --> 01:00:39,999
the right side of the slide, as

1765
01:00:39,999 --> 01:00:41,667
well as implementation of the

1766
01:00:41,667 --> 01:00:42,918
regional housing needs

1767
01:00:42,918 --> 01:00:45,542
allocation. Given the range of

1768
01:00:45,542 --> 01:00:47,999
land use and housing market

1769
01:00:47,999 --> 01:00:50,399
context throughout the region

1770
01:00:50,999 --> 01:00:51,999
proposal for this requirement

1771
01:00:51,999 --> 01:00:54,876
takes a menu approach. There is

1772
01:00:54,876 --> 01:00:56,667
a list of policies and what's

1773
01:00:56,667 --> 01:00:58,417
being proposed is that a

1774
01:00:58,417 --> 01:01:00,667
jurisdiction would adopt two out

1775
01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:04,792
of three or two out of four.

1776
01:01:04,792 --> 01:01:07,125
from the stakeholders we have

1777
01:01:07,125 --> 01:01:10,725
adopted it should be in some

1778
01:01:11,999 --> 01:01:13,626
cases less constrained in terms

1779
01:01:13,626 --> 01:01:16,626
of optional and should further

1780
01:01:17,999 --> 01:01:20,399
guidance specification on what

1781
01:01:21,375 --> 01:01:23,775
housing policies should address

1782
01:01:23,999 --> 01:01:25,667
requirement that is meaningful

1783
01:01:25,667 --> 01:01:26,876
in terms of planned bay area

1784
01:01:26,876 --> 01:01:27,999
implementation providing

1785
01:01:27,999 --> 01:01:30,399
flexibility needed to address

1786
01:01:30,542 --> 01:01:32,959
housing market context in the

1787
01:01:32,959 --> 01:01:35,359
region and working with

1788
01:01:35,999 --> 01:01:38,417
stakeholders as well as housing

1789
01:01:38,417 --> 01:01:39,999
and local program staff to

1790
01:01:39,999 --> 01:01:41,167
address comments and questions

1791
01:01:41,167 --> 01:01:42,999
received to ensure consistency

1792
01:01:42,999 --> 01:01:44,999
regarding regional guidelines on

1793
01:01:44,999 --> 01:01:46,999
housing policies. This provides

1794
01:01:46,999 --> 01:01:49,334
a high-level summary of proposed

1795
01:01:49,334 --> 01:01:51,734
policy on parking requirements

1796
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,918
parking management requirements

1797
01:01:54,918 --> 01:01:57,318
detailed in the attachment.

1798
01:01:59,209 --> 01:02:01,609
addressed by bart's zoning

1799
01:02:02,334 --> 01:02:05,626
guidance as well as park policy

1800
01:02:05,626 --> 01:02:07,542
playbook there is a solid body

1801
01:02:07,542 --> 01:02:09,501
of research at this time on the

1802
01:02:09,501 --> 01:02:11,542
critical role effective parking

1803
01:02:11,542 --> 01:02:13,942
management plays on reducing

1804
01:02:18,999 --> 01:02:20,751
automobile trips and parking,

1805
01:02:20,751 --> 01:02:23,501
right size parking enables high

1806
01:02:23,501 --> 01:02:24,667
density and development near

1807
01:02:24,667 --> 01:02:27,420
transit and reduce per unit

1808
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:29,442
development cost our technical

1809
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,542
advisory committee members

1810
01:02:31,542 --> 01:02:33,667
supported elimination of minimum

1811
01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:35,000
parking requirements in

1812
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,000
transit-rich areas and there is

1813
01:02:39,999 --> 01:02:41,292
debate about potentially having

1814
01:02:41,292 --> 01:02:43,692
parking maximums with proposed

1815
01:02:43,999 --> 01:02:45,999
areas for regional rail service

1816
01:02:45,999 --> 01:02:49,459
such as bart, caltrain and light

1817
01:02:49,459 --> 01:02:53,590
rail and rapid transit I not

1818
01:02:54,626 --> 01:02:57,260
including parking maximum for

1819
01:02:57,918 --> 01:02:59,959
areas that are only served by

1820
01:02:59,959 --> 01:03:01,709
ferry, commuter rail or frequent

1821
01:03:01,709 --> 01:03:02,334
bus service. We're working with

1822
01:03:02,334 --> 01:03:02,999
our stakeholders including local

1823
01:03:02,999 --> 01:03:05,399
jurisdiction planning staff on

1824
01:03:06,250 --> 01:03:06,918
further refining this

1825
01:03:06,918 --> 01:03:07,999
requirement with regard to

1826
01:03:07,999 --> 01:03:09,999
parking maximum providing

1827
01:03:09,999 --> 01:03:11,999
further specificity regarding

1828
01:03:12,626 --> 01:03:14,626
what requirements transportation

1829
01:03:15,417 --> 01:03:17,417
demand management measures might

1830
01:03:17,417 --> 01:03:20,999
be. Focused on the half mile

1831
01:03:20,999 --> 01:03:22,501
area around transit stops and

1832
01:03:22,501 --> 01:03:23,959
stations requirements for

1833
01:03:23,959 --> 01:03:25,250
transit station access

1834
01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:27,250
circulation also address

1835
01:03:27,667 --> 01:03:29,501
improvements that would enable

1836
01:03:29,501 --> 01:03:31,901
people outside the area

1837
01:03:33,999 --> 01:03:36,399
including buses shuttles and

1838
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:38,250
active transportation. First

1839
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:41,250
two components in the outline

1840
01:03:42,999 --> 01:03:44,999
include complete streets update

1841
01:03:44,999 --> 01:03:46,959
as well as regional investment

1842
01:03:46,959 --> 01:03:49,359
mobility hubs third bullet

1843
01:03:49,751 --> 01:03:52,151
requires completion of specific

1844
01:03:53,876 --> 01:03:55,459
gap analysis several recent

1845
01:03:55,459 --> 01:03:57,626
station areas have included this

1846
01:03:57,626 --> 01:03:58,999
analysis and it's been effective

1847
01:03:58,999 --> 01:04:00,209
in identifying projects that

1848
01:04:00,209 --> 01:04:02,420
improve multi-modal transit

1849
01:04:02,420 --> 01:04:04,442
access. Requirements working to

1850
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:08,417
address comments and feedback.

1851
01:04:08,417 --> 01:04:11,125
and we very much look forward to

1852
01:04:11,125 --> 01:04:12,125
feedback from committee members

1853
01:04:12,125 --> 01:04:14,125
today including how

1854
01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:16,250
jurisdictions should address

1855
01:04:16,709 --> 01:04:18,125
equity priority communities

1856
01:04:18,125 --> 01:04:21,459
located farther than a half mile

1857
01:04:21,459 --> 01:04:23,250
from transit stops and stations.

1858
01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:26,125
next slide please. I want to

1859
01:04:26,125 --> 01:04:27,459
conclude this portion of the

1860
01:04:27,459 --> 01:04:28,751
presentation talking about how

1861
01:04:28,751 --> 01:04:30,167
local jurisdictions will comply

1862
01:04:30,167 --> 01:04:32,501
with the proposed toc policy

1863
01:04:32,501 --> 01:04:33,000
requirements that I have

1864
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,999
outlined. We anticipate that.

1865
01:04:34,999 --> 01:04:36,792
oc policy implementation will be

1866
01:04:36,792 --> 01:04:38,292
phased over multiple years in

1867
01:04:38,292 --> 01:04:39,626
coordination with transit

1868
01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:40,751
improvements and that it will

1869
01:04:40,751 --> 01:04:41,999
take time and financial support

1870
01:04:41,999 --> 01:04:43,999
to assist jurisdictions with toc

1871
01:04:43,999 --> 01:04:46,459
policy compliance in some cases

1872
01:04:46,459 --> 01:04:48,420
already adopted plans or zoning

1873
01:04:48,420 --> 01:04:50,375
may need to be amended to comply

1874
01:04:50,375 --> 01:04:51,459
with the policy but it's

1875
01:04:51,459 --> 01:04:52,918
important to note that even an

1876
01:04:52,918 --> 01:04:53,999
amendment to an existing plan

1877
01:04:53,999 --> 01:04:55,626
can take several years to

1878
01:04:55,626 --> 01:04:58,667
complete if adopted one of the

1879
01:04:58,667 --> 01:04:59,999
first implementation steps will

1880
01:04:59,999 --> 01:05:01,999
toll address compliance

1881
01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:04,999
locations for major transit

1882
01:05:04,999 --> 01:05:05,999
improvements planned in the

1883
01:05:05,999 --> 01:05:07,876
near-term enabling us to

1884
01:05:07,876 --> 01:05:09,501
identify prioritization

1885
01:05:09,501 --> 01:05:11,830
resources that will be needed to

1886
01:05:11,830 --> 01:05:12,000
support policy implementation

1887
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
and coordination implementation

1888
01:05:16,209 --> 01:05:18,609
for transit investment. Focus

1889
01:05:19,501 --> 01:05:20,999
of today's presentation has been

1890
01:05:20,999 --> 01:05:23,000
to provide you with a general

1891
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,999
overview of draft proposal for

1892
01:05:24,999 --> 01:05:27,751
the toc approach and policy

1893
01:05:27,751 --> 01:05:28,999
requirements and get your

1894
01:05:28,999 --> 01:05:30,830
feedback on overall direction

1895
01:05:30,830 --> 01:05:31,626
for policy development. There

1896
01:05:31,626 --> 01:05:33,459
is still a lot of work to be

1897
01:05:33,459 --> 01:05:35,709
done as we move forward with

1898
01:05:35,709 --> 01:05:37,420
developing the draft final

1899
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:38,626
policy there are several key

1900
01:05:38,626 --> 01:05:39,584
issues that we want to in

1901
01:05:39,584 --> 01:05:40,584
particular bring to your

1902
01:05:40,584 --> 01:05:41,999
attention as I mentioned earlier

1903
01:05:41,999 --> 01:05:44,250
the toc policy would not only

1904
01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:45,918
apply to transit expansions but

1905
01:05:45,918 --> 01:05:47,959
to major transit improvements as

1906
01:05:47,959 --> 01:05:48,999
well which is a significant

1907
01:05:48,999 --> 01:05:51,542
change from the 2005tod policy

1908
01:05:51,542 --> 01:05:52,999
and while the focus is on

1909
01:05:52,999 --> 01:05:55,125
providing planning and technical

1910
01:05:55,125 --> 01:05:56,375
assistance to jurisdictions to

1911
01:05:56,375 --> 01:05:58,375
assist with policy compliance

1912
01:05:58,375 --> 01:06:00,999
staff is propose that ultimately

1913
01:06:00,999 --> 01:06:02,999
compliance could be a condition

1914
01:06:02,999 --> 01:06:05,876
of future obag cycles, obag four

1915
01:06:05,876 --> 01:06:07,999
or beyond. And next as we move

1916
01:06:07,999 --> 01:06:10,250
forward with refining the policy

1917
01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:12,830
requirements a key issue will be

1918
01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:13,459
balancing effectiveness and ease

1919
01:06:13,459 --> 01:06:14,999
of implementation with both the

1920
01:06:14,999 --> 01:06:16,876
diversity and complexity of

1921
01:06:16,876 --> 01:06:17,999
different land use and

1922
01:06:17,999 --> 01:06:18,999
transportation contexts

1923
01:06:18,999 --> 01:06:19,999
throughout the region and in

1924
01:06:19,999 --> 01:06:21,999
some cases even within a single

1925
01:06:21,999 --> 01:06:24,420
station area. And then lastly,

1926
01:06:24,420 --> 01:06:25,209
policy implementation will

1927
01:06:25,209 --> 01:06:26,626
likely require additional

1928
01:06:26,626 --> 01:06:28,000
resources for planning and

1929
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,501
technical assistance as well as

1930
01:06:29,501 --> 01:06:31,417
for assessing compliance. And

1931
01:06:31,417 --> 01:06:33,000
we expect implementation of the

1932
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,459
policy to be phased over time

1933
01:06:34,459 --> 01:06:36,334
and, again, coordinated with

1934
01:06:36,334 --> 01:06:38,542
transit project funding and

1935
01:06:38,542 --> 01:06:39,459
delivery.

1936
01:06:39,459 --> 01:06:40,420
and, my last slide, please.

1937
01:06:40,420 --> 01:06:42,420
[laughter]

1938
01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:44,999
so, in conclusion, our next

1939
01:06:44,999 --> 01:06:46,542
steps are to work with our

1940
01:06:46,542 --> 01:06:47,792
technical advisory committee and

1941
01:06:47,792 --> 01:06:49,792
other stakeholders on developing

1942
01:06:49,792 --> 01:06:51,999
a final draft policy that we

1943
01:06:51,999 --> 01:06:53,292
anticipate bringing back to this

1944
01:06:53,292 --> 01:06:55,420
committee for action later this

1945
01:06:55,420 --> 01:06:56,375
spring.

1946
01:06:56,375 --> 01:06:57,667
again, this is an information

1947
01:06:57,667 --> 01:06:59,999
item. And no action is being

1948
01:06:59,999 --> 01:07:01,334
requested today. But we are

1949
01:07:01,334 --> 01:07:02,834
very happy to answer any

1950
01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:05,000
questions. And definitely want

1951
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:05,999
to receive your feedback and

1952
01:07:05,999 --> 01:07:08,209
direction on the general policy

1953
01:07:08,209 --> 01:07:09,999
approach and requirements. So,

1954
01:07:09,999 --> 01:07:12,399
thank you very much.

1955
01:07:15,125 --> 01:07:15,999
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1956
01:07:15,999 --> 01:07:17,209
chair: matt, does that conclude

1957
01:07:17,209 --> 01:07:19,209
the staff presentation?

1958
01:07:19,417 --> 01:07:20,420
>>matt maloney: yes it does.

1959
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:21,501
>>jim spering, mtc planning

1960
01:07:21,501 --> 01:07:22,999
chair: before I take questions

1961
01:07:22,999 --> 01:07:24,999
from the committee members, you

1962
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:26,999
know, I just -- you know, I

1963
01:07:26,999 --> 01:07:28,209
don't think I have received as

1964
01:07:28,209 --> 01:07:30,918
many phone calls in a while,

1965
01:07:30,918 --> 01:07:32,999
ever since our telecommute

1966
01:07:32,999 --> 01:07:35,626
policy and planned bay area 2050

1967
01:07:35,626 --> 01:07:37,292
stirred a lot of interest. You

1968
01:07:37,292 --> 01:07:39,830
know, as this policy has been

1969
01:07:39,830 --> 01:07:41,125
released, it has stirred a lot

1970
01:07:41,125 --> 01:07:43,667
of interest. And I think staff

1971
01:07:43,667 --> 01:07:45,420
knows that. First I want to say

1972
01:07:45,420 --> 01:07:48,375
that, you know, staff has not

1973
01:07:48,375 --> 01:07:49,876
presented anything in this

1974
01:07:49,876 --> 01:07:52,876
proposal that isn't in planned

1975
01:07:53,830 --> 01:07:55,000
bay area 2050. I think what got

1976
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,709
everybody's attention is, this

1977
01:07:56,709 --> 01:07:59,459
is a 30-year plan. The way that

1978
01:07:59,459 --> 01:08:01,125
this presentation was presented,

1979
01:08:01,125 --> 01:08:02,999
it looked like our staff was

1980
01:08:02,999 --> 01:08:04,420
trying to implement it in the

1981
01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:05,792
first year. And that was not

1982
01:08:05,792 --> 01:08:07,876
the intent. And therese really

1983
01:08:07,876 --> 01:08:09,250
made that clear that there is a

1984
01:08:09,250 --> 01:08:10,834
lot of work to be done. There

1985
01:08:10,834 --> 01:08:12,125
is a lot more analysis. It

1986
01:08:12,125 --> 01:08:13,459
doesn't mean all of these

1987
01:08:13,459 --> 01:08:14,417
strategies are going to be

1988
01:08:14,417 --> 01:08:15,626
included. Because there might

1989
01:08:15,626 --> 01:08:17,125
be a better place to put some of

1990
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those strategies. Local

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jurisdictions, and you know, we

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01:08:19,834 --> 01:08:21,999
need to look at, you know, are

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these incentives that are put n

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and how we're going to approach

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t so I just want to just caution

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everybody before we circle the

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wagons or anything that there is

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a lot in analysis, a lot more

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01:08:34,999 --> 01:08:35,999
discussion. But staff is

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bringing forward the strategies

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that we have all adopted, and

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01:08:39,250 --> 01:08:41,125
most of them, we were hoping

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01:08:41,125 --> 01:08:42,918
would be adopted over a period

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01:08:42,918 --> 01:08:44,999
of time. A number of years.

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01:08:44,999 --> 01:08:47,584
and, we are certainly going to

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01:08:47,584 --> 01:08:50,125
have to figure out who is the

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best person to implement many of

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these strategies. And so I

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just, you know, the speakers,

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01:08:54,999 --> 01:08:57,125
and committee members, you know,

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01:08:57,125 --> 01:08:58,626
it would just -- it would be

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01:08:58,626 --> 01:09:00,918
good to hear from you on what

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01:09:00,918 --> 01:09:03,318
issues you're concerned about.

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01:09:04,584 --> 01:09:07,420
there is plenty of time for

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01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:08,709
everybody to look at this policy

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look at how it's going to impact

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their projects, if it's going to

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01:09:13,584 --> 01:09:15,250
hinder those projects or

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01:09:15,250 --> 01:09:16,999
accelerate them. It's going to

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01:09:16,999 --> 01:09:19,292
be good to hear that information

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from you. The intent is not to

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01:09:22,999 --> 01:09:24,999
dismantle anybody's zoning or

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01:09:24,999 --> 01:09:27,999
pda plan that's not the intent

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01:09:27,999 --> 01:09:29,999
of this. A lot of this work is

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01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:31,959
going to continue and mtc staff

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01:09:31,959 --> 01:09:32,999
is going to help with

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implementation and delivery of

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01:09:35,167 --> 01:09:38,767
those projects. I want to set

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context. There is a lot more

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01:09:40,375 --> 01:09:41,999
discussion. We all need to work

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01:09:41,999 --> 01:09:43,626
together. We have a common

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01:09:43,626 --> 01:09:45,959
goal. And that all of these

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01:09:45,959 --> 01:09:48,375
strategies, as I said, that has

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01:09:48,375 --> 01:09:51,417
had a lot of discussion over the

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01:09:51,417 --> 01:09:53,626
past several years, as we have

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01:09:53,626 --> 01:09:55,959
brought planned bay area 2050

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01:09:55,959 --> 01:09:57,918
forward. And so, in my

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01:09:57,918 --> 01:09:58,999
conversations with therese and

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01:09:58,999 --> 01:10:02,999
matt, you know, at a couple of

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01:10:02,999 --> 01:10:04,292
meetings prior to this meeting,

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01:10:04,292 --> 01:10:05,918
they're assuring me that there

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01:10:05,918 --> 01:10:07,834
is a lot of opportunity to have

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01:10:07,834 --> 01:10:10,830
meaningful discussions, to get

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01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:11,667
the stakeholders that are

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01:10:11,667 --> 01:10:13,792
involved in these various areas,

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01:10:13,792 --> 01:10:14,999
and really talk about a strategy

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01:10:14,999 --> 01:10:17,751
that's going to work. And a toc

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01:10:17,751 --> 01:10:19,417
program that we can deliver.

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01:10:19,417 --> 01:10:21,751
you know, I was chair of mtc

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when we introduced the original

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01:10:24,751 --> 01:10:27,151
toc program, transportation for

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01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:32,809
livable -- tlc -- there was

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01:10:33,459 --> 01:10:35,501
controversy there, but that has

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01:10:35,501 --> 01:10:38,375
served as well, and I think this

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01:10:38,375 --> 01:10:40,250
toc is going to do the same

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01:10:40,250 --> 01:10:42,918
thing. It's how and when we

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01:10:42,918 --> 01:10:44,584
implement it that's going to be

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01:10:44,584 --> 01:10:48,184
the issue here and who delivers.

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01:10:48,501 --> 01:10:50,876
that said I'm going to go to my

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01:10:50,876 --> 01:10:51,626
commissioners and board members

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01:10:51,626 --> 01:10:54,260
and we'll take comments.

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01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:55,751
dave hudson, I think you're

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01:10:55,751 --> 01:10:57,834
first, then carol dutra-vernaci.

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01:10:57,834 --> 01:10:59,876
you will be second.

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01:10:59,876 --> 01:11:03,125
go ahead, dave, kick us off

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01:11:03,125 --> 01:11:03,999
>>david e. Hudson: apparently,

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01:11:03,999 --> 01:11:06,999
I must have missed something.

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01:11:07,292 --> 01:11:09,292
mine is a clarifying question.

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01:11:09,292 --> 01:11:11,918
don't have anybody angry yet. I

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01:11:11,918 --> 01:11:13,167
asked a question during our

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01:11:13,167 --> 01:11:14,542
appeals process on what

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01:11:14,542 --> 01:11:16,375
something actually meant so this

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01:11:16,375 --> 01:11:18,792
time I'm going to ask it again

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01:11:18,792 --> 01:11:21,626
this has to do with item five,

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01:11:21,626 --> 01:11:24,260
attachment a, it's two

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01:11:25,375 --> 01:11:27,775
questions. Bottom of first

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01:11:30,584 --> 01:11:32,584
paragraph, "adding affordable

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01:11:32,876 --> 01:11:35,501
homes close to region's major

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01:11:35,501 --> 01:11:37,501
transit investment." the

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01:11:37,751 --> 01:11:41,351
question is does region mean bay

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01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:43,626
area there, and,

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01:11:43,626 --> 01:11:45,626
second "proposed affordable

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01:11:47,209 --> 01:11:48,999
housing and anti-displacement

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01:11:48,999 --> 01:11:50,209
policies like would be

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01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:52,209
implemented jurisdiction wide"

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01:11:53,334 --> 01:11:55,834
is jurisdiction wide also the

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01:11:55,834 --> 01:11:57,999
bay area. I'll wait to get an

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01:11:57,999 --> 01:11:59,999
answer.

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01:12:01,792 --> 01:12:03,999
>>matt maloney: I'll leap in on

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01:12:03,999 --> 01:12:06,834
this one. Yes. When we say the

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01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:08,501
region's major transit

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01:12:08,501 --> 01:12:09,792
investments we're talking about

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01:12:09,792 --> 01:12:11,959
the nine-county bay area. When

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01:12:11,959 --> 01:12:13,830
we're talking about

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01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:15,292
jurisdiction-wide in terms of

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01:12:15,292 --> 01:12:16,999
adopting certain policies we're

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01:12:16,999 --> 01:12:18,667
talking local jurisdictions in

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01:12:18,667 --> 01:12:20,417
that case.

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01:12:20,417 --> 01:12:21,959
>>david e. Hudson: okay. Well

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01:12:21,959 --> 01:12:23,125
where I got surprised before

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01:12:23,125 --> 01:12:25,125
was "intraregional relationship"

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,792
and I thought that meant, like,

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01:12:28,792 --> 01:12:30,667
a couple of jurisdictions coming

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01:12:30,667 --> 01:12:31,834
together on something only to

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01:12:31,834 --> 01:12:33,375
find out that meant the entire

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01:12:33,375 --> 01:12:34,830
bay area.

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01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:35,626
I'll leave it at that.

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01:12:35,626 --> 01:12:36,667
everybody can judge for

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01:12:36,667 --> 01:12:37,584
themselves.

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01:12:37,584 --> 01:12:38,125
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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01:12:38,125 --> 01:12:39,834
chair: yeah. Staff, I think it

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01:12:39,834 --> 01:12:41,999
would be best if we try and get

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01:12:41,999 --> 01:12:43,542
all the questions in. And if

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01:12:43,542 --> 01:12:45,542
you guys can write them down as

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01:12:45,542 --> 01:12:47,999
we go. Because if we're going

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01:12:47,999 --> 01:12:50,209
to respond to everything we'll

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01:12:50,209 --> 01:12:51,999
be here for a long period of

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01:12:51,999 --> 01:12:53,501
time. But we have to address

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01:12:53,501 --> 01:12:55,292
the questions people are

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01:12:55,292 --> 01:12:57,420
raising. Matt you can guys take

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01:12:57,420 --> 01:12:58,292
notes and answer the questions.

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01:12:58,292 --> 01:13:00,125
but I would like to get as many

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01:13:00,125 --> 01:13:01,959
of the questions in front of us

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01:13:01,959 --> 01:13:03,834
as we can and that will help

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01:13:03,834 --> 01:13:05,375
stop repeating a lot of

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01:13:05,375 --> 01:13:06,709
information. With that, carol

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and victoria?

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01:13:09,626 --> 01:13:10,209
>>carol dutra-vernaci: yes.

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and thank you chair spering.

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my thought on this item is that,

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obviously, whatever politics we

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01:13:16,125 --> 01:13:17,999
end upcoming up with, we want

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01:13:17,999 --> 01:13:21,599
the cities to be compliant. So,

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,918
because this is going to be a

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01:13:25,918 --> 01:13:28,125
phased project, cities are going

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01:13:28,125 --> 01:13:29,999
to keep ongoing with their

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01:13:29,999 --> 01:13:31,792
development plans as time goes

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01:13:31,792 --> 01:13:33,999
on, and as we're phasing this

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01:13:33,999 --> 01:13:36,959
in, in pieces, I'm afraid we're

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01:13:36,959 --> 01:13:41,159
going to end up having an r

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01:13:43,459 --> 01:13:45,334
jurisdiction that might not be

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01:13:45,334 --> 01:13:46,751
consistent with putting in the

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01:13:46,751 --> 01:13:47,918
policies that we're concerned b

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01:13:47,918 --> 01:13:50,250
so I would like to request that

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we do an assessment of our

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01:13:52,584 --> 01:13:55,584
transit-rich areas and see where

2147
01:13:56,542 --> 01:13:57,751
the alignment is that we're

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01:13:57,751 --> 01:13:58,918
thinking about, and where the

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01:13:58,918 --> 01:14:00,334
gaps are so there can be

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01:14:00,334 --> 01:14:01,542
communication. I did hear you

2151
01:14:01,542 --> 01:14:03,876
say, chair spering, about the

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01:14:03,876 --> 01:14:05,000
stakeholders. Because if

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,876
they're aware of what's going

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01:14:06,876 --> 01:14:09,292
on, then that will inform them,

2155
01:14:09,292 --> 01:14:11,125
as they're trying to move

2156
01:14:11,125 --> 01:14:12,999
forward in their projects. So,

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01:14:12,999 --> 01:14:14,709
thank you for entertaining those

2158
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:16,709
comments.

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01:14:16,999 --> 01:14:17,626
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2160
01:14:17,626 --> 01:14:18,876
chair: thank you, carol.

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01:14:18,876 --> 01:14:20,420
victoria?

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01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:21,334
>>victoria fleming: thank you,

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01:14:21,334 --> 01:14:23,334
chair spering.

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01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:25,000
my comments -- you know, I take

2165
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,584
the chair's comments in stride,

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01:14:26,584 --> 01:14:28,792
and thank staff for a really

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01:14:28,792 --> 01:14:30,792
comprehensive and well-thought

2168
01:14:30,876 --> 01:14:32,626
out introduction to a really

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01:14:32,626 --> 01:14:33,751
difficult implementation plan.

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01:14:33,751 --> 01:14:35,999
so, thank you, sincerely.

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01:14:35,999 --> 01:14:39,420
my concerns are that, as we

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01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:40,792
implement so many of these

2173
01:14:40,792 --> 01:14:42,999
fantastic strategies, that I

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01:14:42,999 --> 01:14:44,876
can't see one of these

2175
01:14:44,876 --> 01:14:45,417
strategies that I can't see

2176
01:14:45,417 --> 01:14:46,420
starting and that I don't want

2177
01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:49,642
agree with. I think they're all

2178
01:14:50,542 --> 01:14:51,999
really wonderful, and I think

2179
01:14:51,999 --> 01:14:54,830
they're, in time, carrots to

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01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:57,830
sticks, and really putting some

2181
01:14:57,626 --> 01:14:59,626
teeth behind our goals and at

2182
01:14:59,626 --> 01:15:03,226
the same time ask for careful

2183
01:15:07,459 --> 01:15:08,167
consideration of the smaller

2184
01:15:08,167 --> 01:15:10,999
communities in the north bay.

2185
01:15:10,999 --> 01:15:13,125
these projects are great goals

2186
01:15:13,125 --> 01:15:14,334
because many of our

2187
01:15:14,334 --> 01:15:15,542
jurisdictions just aren't there

2188
01:15:15,542 --> 01:15:17,999
yet. I look forward to careful

2189
01:15:17,999 --> 01:15:19,999
and you thoughtful discussions

2190
01:15:19,999 --> 01:15:21,375
with our county transportation

2191
01:15:21,375 --> 01:15:22,667
authorities and our stakeholders

2192
01:15:22,667 --> 01:15:25,292
to make sure this is phased in a

2193
01:15:25,292 --> 01:15:26,751
way that doesn't leave our

2194
01:15:26,751 --> 01:15:29,151
smaller communities behind and

2195
01:15:29,792 --> 01:15:31,375
make sure the funding is

2196
01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:32,999
distributed in a way that makes

2197
01:15:32,999 --> 01:15:34,999
the whole entire nine bay area

2198
01:15:34,999 --> 01:15:36,375
county system work well

2199
01:15:36,375 --> 01:15:36,999
together. Thank you.

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01:15:36,999 --> 01:15:37,626
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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01:15:37,626 --> 01:15:40,260
chair: thank you, victoria.

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01:15:44,876 --> 01:15:47,667
pat eklund, then neysa fligor.

2203
01:15:47,667 --> 01:15:48,584
>>pat ecklund: thank you chair

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01:15:48,584 --> 01:15:50,000
spering. I also want to thank

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,400
you for your preliminary

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01:15:53,834 --> 01:15:55,709
comments. Because this document

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01:15:55,709 --> 01:15:59,309
scared the bejesus out of me,

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01:16:01,125 --> 01:16:03,525
actually, just saying that

2209
01:16:03,834 --> 01:16:06,125
directly. I think right off the

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01:16:06,125 --> 01:16:08,501
bat, we need to get a revised

2211
01:16:08,501 --> 01:16:10,626
timeline. I think one of -- for

2212
01:16:10,626 --> 01:16:11,999
implementation of any type of

2213
01:16:11,999 --> 01:16:14,292
policy like this, I really think

2214
01:16:14,292 --> 01:16:17,892
that, number one, we need to

2215
01:16:17,999 --> 01:16:20,999
send out a draft policy,

2216
01:16:21,626 --> 01:16:24,209
whichever one we get close to --

2217
01:16:24,209 --> 01:16:25,834
I think this is far from where

2218
01:16:25,834 --> 01:16:28,417
we need to be -- to each city

2219
01:16:28,417 --> 01:16:30,817
for review and comment.

2220
01:16:30,999 --> 01:16:33,399
because, basically, what we're

2221
01:16:33,959 --> 01:16:36,420
doing is we're changing the

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01:16:36,420 --> 01:16:38,999
concept of transit-rich areas to

2223
01:16:38,999 --> 01:16:41,999
be a mandatory designation. In

2224
01:16:47,334 --> 01:16:50,250
the past, pdas actually had to

2225
01:16:50,250 --> 01:16:51,999
apply for it. Transit-rich

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01:16:51,999 --> 01:16:53,834
areas was a designation that was

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01:16:53,834 --> 01:16:56,999
made by abag and mtc, but it

2228
01:16:56,999 --> 01:16:58,125
wasn't something that the cities

2229
01:16:58,125 --> 01:17:00,792
really had to adhere to.

2230
01:17:00,792 --> 01:17:04,417
so, I have a major issue about

2231
01:17:04,417 --> 01:17:07,417
this being applied to tras.

2232
01:17:07,999 --> 01:17:10,999
especially in the more rural

2233
01:17:11,834 --> 01:17:14,834
areas, like novato or san

2234
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:17,334
rafael, is not anything like a

2235
01:17:17,334 --> 01:17:19,000
fremont or san jose.

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,167
and before we do anything, I

2237
01:17:21,167 --> 01:17:23,375
think we need to have a better

2238
01:17:23,375 --> 01:17:25,775
understanding of which cities

2239
01:17:26,667 --> 01:17:30,267
are not in compliance with the

2240
01:17:31,334 --> 01:17:32,834
proposed policies that we're

2241
01:17:32,834 --> 01:17:35,375
doing. And do we necessarily

2242
01:17:35,375 --> 01:17:37,375
want them to be? Because there

2243
01:17:37,375 --> 01:17:40,975
is some that just don't lend

2244
01:17:42,999 --> 01:17:45,999
itself, and, plus, requiring a

2245
01:17:48,834 --> 01:17:50,709
commercial density and

2246
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:52,542
residential density -- we are

2247
01:17:52,542 --> 01:17:54,209
still in a pandemic and there is

2248
01:17:54,209 --> 01:17:55,959
a lot of discussion, the bay

2249
01:17:55,959 --> 01:17:58,420
area council just came out with

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01:17:58,420 --> 01:18:00,250
a thing that said 40% of their

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01:18:00,250 --> 01:18:01,999
employees are not going to be

2252
01:18:01,999 --> 01:18:03,709
coming back to work in a

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01:18:03,709 --> 01:18:04,999
building. Most of them are

2254
01:18:04,999 --> 01:18:07,584
going be -- and there is some

2255
01:18:07,584 --> 01:18:08,999
debate as to what percentage.

2256
01:18:08,999 --> 01:18:11,999
some say 15%, some are saying

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01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,626
40%. But I firmly believe that

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01:18:14,626 --> 01:18:16,167
the way that we work, the way

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01:18:16,167 --> 01:18:18,375
that we move people to and from

2260
01:18:18,375 --> 01:18:20,751
work is fundamentally changed as

2261
01:18:20,751 --> 01:18:22,375
a result of this pandemic. And

2262
01:18:22,375 --> 01:18:25,375
we haven't really assessed that,

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01:18:25,542 --> 01:18:27,999
or even factored that into some

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01:18:27,999 --> 01:18:30,375
of our thinking here.

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01:18:30,375 --> 01:18:32,420
so we're just assuming that

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we're going to have to have

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residential densities and

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01:18:34,999 --> 01:18:36,999
commercial densities around

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01:18:36,999 --> 01:18:39,999
transit-rich areas when, in fact

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01:18:42,999 --> 01:18:44,584
that may not be the case.

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01:18:44,584 --> 01:18:46,751
people may not be needing

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01:18:46,751 --> 01:18:50,830
transit to get to work, because

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01:18:50,830 --> 01:18:51,584
they're not necessarily going to

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01:18:51,584 --> 01:18:52,999
be going back to work. The

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01:18:52,999 --> 01:18:54,542
council said they may be going

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01:18:54,542 --> 01:18:56,375
into the office maybe three days

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01:18:56,375 --> 01:18:58,417
a week, not five. Transit is

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01:18:58,417 --> 01:19:00,542
based on five days a week. So,

2279
01:19:00,542 --> 01:19:02,501
you know, I'm not an expert in

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01:19:02,501 --> 01:19:04,999
this, but, so, I have a real

2281
01:19:04,999 --> 01:19:08,599
issue with this being applied to

2282
01:19:09,751 --> 01:19:11,626
transit-rich areas. I don't

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01:19:11,626 --> 01:19:12,999
think that we should be

2284
01:19:12,999 --> 01:19:13,959
mandating commercial and

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01:19:13,959 --> 01:19:16,250
residential densities. I think

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01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:19,250
that the affordable housing and

2287
01:19:23,459 --> 01:19:24,751
anti-displacement policies,

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01:19:24,751 --> 01:19:26,250
cities don't necessarily have

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01:19:26,250 --> 01:19:27,834
the money to adopt these

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01:19:27,834 --> 01:19:30,834
policies and or implement them.

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01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,600
most cities don't have a housing

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01:19:39,667 --> 01:19:41,667
fund. So I have -- you know

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01:19:41,667 --> 01:19:42,999
there, is no definition of a

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01:19:42,999 --> 01:19:44,334
major transit investment,

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01:19:44,334 --> 01:19:46,417
whether it's planned, or

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01:19:46,417 --> 01:19:48,417
developed.

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01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:51,420
there is just a lot of

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01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:52,584
uncertainties in this thing.

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01:19:52,584 --> 01:19:53,834
and I think that we really need

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01:19:53,834 --> 01:19:57,434
to make sure that the planners

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01:19:57,999 --> 01:19:59,999
and the elected official in each

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01:19:59,999 --> 01:20:02,999
city, in this region, have input

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01:20:02,999 --> 01:20:04,250
into this.

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01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:07,751
and, so, I have a lot more

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01:20:07,751 --> 01:20:09,125
comments that, basically, I

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01:20:09,125 --> 01:20:13,325
think that we need to have a

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01:20:15,626 --> 01:20:17,584
little bit more definition and a

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01:20:17,584 --> 01:20:18,918
better understanding of who this

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01:20:18,918 --> 01:20:20,626
is going to apply to and what

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01:20:20,626 --> 01:20:22,375
does it mean for each of the

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01:20:22,375 --> 01:20:25,975
cities before we even think any

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01:20:26,834 --> 01:20:29,234
adopting something like this.

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01:20:41,125 --> 01:20:41,918
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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01:20:41,918 --> 01:20:44,318
chair: thank you, pat.

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01:20:44,751 --> 01:20:46,209
>>neysa fligor: pat covered

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01:20:46,209 --> 01:20:48,417
everything on my list. And in

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01:20:48,417 --> 01:20:49,999
the opening, chair spering,

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01:20:49,999 --> 01:20:51,959
thank you for that it's the

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01:20:51,959 --> 01:20:54,830
message I will take back we're

2320
01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:56,125
early in the process and I

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01:20:56,125 --> 01:20:57,292
appreciate you saying that at

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01:20:57,292 --> 01:20:59,501
the beginning. I won't repeat

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01:20:59,501 --> 01:21:01,209
everything that pat said, but

2324
01:21:01,209 --> 01:21:02,626
similar concerns and questions,

2325
01:21:02,626 --> 01:21:04,999
how it will be deployed,

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01:21:04,999 --> 01:21:07,399
applied, application, to non-pda

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01:21:07,751 --> 01:21:09,792
areas, what does that mean for

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01:21:09,792 --> 01:21:11,250
different cities, and so because

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01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:14,125
we're at the early stage of this

2330
01:21:14,125 --> 01:21:17,125
policy process, I do appreciate

2331
01:21:19,876 --> 01:21:22,999
the fact that we will have time

2332
01:21:22,999 --> 01:21:25,999
to delve deeper and solicit

2333
01:21:25,999 --> 01:21:28,375
feedback from our individual

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01:21:28,375 --> 01:21:29,792
cities and county jurisdictions.

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01:21:29,792 --> 01:21:32,420
so I won't go into the list.

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01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:32,751
thank you very much.

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01:21:32,751 --> 01:21:33,292
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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01:21:33,292 --> 01:21:33,999
chair: thank you for those

2339
01:21:33,999 --> 01:21:36,375
comments. Carlos and then

2340
01:21:36,375 --> 01:21:38,375
alfredo, our chair.

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01:21:39,792 --> 01:21:41,125
>>carlos romero: thank you. I

2342
01:21:41,125 --> 01:21:43,525
am actually quite pleasantly

2343
01:21:43,751 --> 01:21:46,501
surprised at the work both staff

2344
01:21:46,501 --> 01:21:49,501
and our executive staff have

2345
01:21:49,999 --> 01:21:51,584
done in trying to improve our

2346
01:21:51,584 --> 01:21:53,501
former tod policy. I know we

2347
01:21:53,501 --> 01:21:55,417
have had many a discussion in

2348
01:21:55,417 --> 01:21:57,876
the past, some actually led by

2349
01:21:57,876 --> 01:21:59,751
the chair about how effective

2350
01:21:59,751 --> 01:22:01,918
these policies have been, are we

2351
01:22:01,918 --> 01:22:03,459
getting what we need in terms of

2352
01:22:03,459 --> 01:22:04,626
the development that's required

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01:22:04,626 --> 01:22:06,417
to make the bay area more

2354
01:22:06,417 --> 01:22:09,417
livable and equitable. And I

2355
01:22:11,999 --> 01:22:13,792
believe this draft is certainly

2356
01:22:13,792 --> 01:22:15,999
moving in that direction. And I

2357
01:22:15,999 --> 01:22:18,417
want to thank you therese for

2358
01:22:18,417 --> 01:22:21,209
supporting her staff to make

2359
01:22:21,209 --> 01:22:23,000
some of these suggestions on

2360
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,420
policies and changes to the tod.

2361
01:22:25,420 --> 01:22:27,420
I do want to point out that many

2362
01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:28,542
of the items that are discussed

2363
01:22:28,542 --> 01:22:32,334
here don't require a deep or any

2364
01:22:32,334 --> 01:22:34,734
cost to implement, particularly

2365
01:22:34,999 --> 01:22:37,292
when it comes to some of the

2366
01:22:37,292 --> 01:22:39,692
policies around preservation and

2367
01:22:39,999 --> 01:22:41,000
displacement, it's something

2368
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,375
that our previous tod policy

2369
01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:45,626
never address said. So just

2370
01:22:45,626 --> 01:22:47,999
cause eviction, you could put in

2371
01:22:47,999 --> 01:22:49,959
place protection that is

2372
01:22:49,959 --> 01:22:51,125
discussed there, and indeed

2373
01:22:51,125 --> 01:22:52,999
those aren't going to cost you

2374
01:22:52,999 --> 01:22:54,125
anything but they certainly will

2375
01:22:54,125 --> 01:22:56,525
be protecting communities of

2376
01:22:56,584 --> 01:22:58,830
concern communities of color,

2377
01:22:58,830 --> 01:22:59,501
communities that certainly

2378
01:22:59,501 --> 01:23:00,834
require a type of protection.

2379
01:23:00,834 --> 01:23:01,999
and I would like to even

2380
01:23:01,999 --> 01:23:03,834
possibly even see that

2381
01:23:03,834 --> 01:23:05,209
strengthened, perhaps even

2382
01:23:05,209 --> 01:23:06,709
thinking of a first right of

2383
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:09,109
return policy on displacement.

2384
01:23:09,250 --> 01:23:10,999
certainly, I want to comment

2385
01:23:10,999 --> 01:23:12,459
really quickly on the parking

2386
01:23:12,459 --> 01:23:14,999
issue. I think it makes a lot

2387
01:23:14,999 --> 01:23:17,000
of sense to look at parking and

2388
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,334
reducing that parking. But

2389
01:23:18,334 --> 01:23:19,709
let's keep in mind that a

2390
01:23:19,709 --> 01:23:20,999
reduction in parking to a

2391
01:23:20,999 --> 01:23:24,125
developer, or what he has to

2392
01:23:24,125 --> 01:23:26,525
produce saves that developer 30

2393
01:23:28,830 --> 01:23:31,830
to $45,000 for a parking space

2394
01:23:32,420 --> 01:23:34,999
and there's an ability to

2395
01:23:34,999 --> 01:23:37,399
recapture that 15 to 20 to 30%

2396
01:23:37,751 --> 01:23:40,209
is a savings to a developer, to

2397
01:23:40,209 --> 01:23:43,250
do a 1.5 or two car per unit

2398
01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:46,250
parking renovation I think is,

2399
01:23:47,918 --> 01:23:50,918
would be some public recapturing

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01:23:52,542 --> 01:23:55,417
of that. Proposed densities on

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01:23:55,417 --> 01:23:56,501
page 22

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01:23:56,501 --> 01:23:56,999
[audio difficulties]

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01:23:56,999 --> 01:24:00,834
I kind of want to record and

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01:24:00,834 --> 01:24:02,125
understand -- and we'll get to

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01:24:02,125 --> 01:24:03,751
this later --

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01:24:03,751 --> 01:24:05,751
[audio difficulties]

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01:24:06,999 --> 01:24:07,626
>>jim spering, mtc planning

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01:24:07,626 --> 01:24:08,584
chair: carlos, you're dropping

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01:24:08,584 --> 01:24:11,584
out. We couldn't hear you.

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01:24:20,959 --> 01:24:23,667
I think we may have lost him.

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01:24:23,667 --> 01:24:25,999
carlos? Okay. I'll come back

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01:24:25,999 --> 01:24:27,999
to him. I'll go to chair

2413
01:24:27,999 --> 01:24:29,000
pedroza then vice chair

2414
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,400
josefowitz will be next.

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01:24:32,542 --> 01:24:33,125
>>alfredo pedroza: thank you

2416
01:24:33,125 --> 01:24:34,999
chair spering. Your comments

2417
01:24:34,999 --> 01:24:37,399
you made earlier --

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01:24:37,999 --> 01:24:39,209
>>carlos romero: I believe page

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01:24:39,209 --> 01:24:40,459
--

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01:24:40,459 --> 01:24:41,830
>>alfredo pedroza: carlos, you

2421
01:24:41,830 --> 01:24:42,959
were kind of going in and out.

2422
01:24:42,959 --> 01:24:45,830
are you in a good spot now? You

2423
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:48,830
want to come back in?

2424
01:24:48,751 --> 01:24:49,999
>>carlos romero:

2425
01:24:49,999 --> 01:24:50,459
[audio difficulties]

2426
01:24:50,459 --> 01:24:53,459
-- let me see --

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01:24:53,999 --> 01:24:55,417
>>alfredo pedroza: you're

2428
01:24:55,417 --> 01:24:57,817
reception wasn't that good

2429
01:24:57,999 --> 01:24:58,292
carlos.

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01:24:58,292 --> 01:24:59,334
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2431
01:24:59,334 --> 01:25:00,830
chair: carlos we're going to

2432
01:25:00,830 --> 01:25:01,667
come back to you. We'll go

2433
01:25:01,667 --> 01:25:04,125
ahead with the other speakers

2434
01:25:04,125 --> 01:25:06,876
and come back to you.

2435
01:25:06,876 --> 01:25:07,542
>>alfredo pedroza: thank you.

2436
01:25:07,542 --> 01:25:09,999
comments were spot o and therese

2437
01:25:09,999 --> 01:25:11,834
response to making those opening

2438
01:25:11,834 --> 01:25:13,584
statements. Those goals are

2439
01:25:13,584 --> 01:25:14,751
good and consistent in terms of

2440
01:25:14,751 --> 01:25:16,375
what we have been talking about

2441
01:25:16,375 --> 01:25:19,975
in socializing with bay area in

2442
01:25:20,626 --> 01:25:22,626
terms of what I'm looking for in

2443
01:25:22,626 --> 01:25:24,125
direction is looking to work

2444
01:25:24,125 --> 01:25:25,999
with flexibility is key

2445
01:25:25,999 --> 01:25:26,999
acknowledging the differences

2446
01:25:26,999 --> 01:25:29,399
between urban and rural

2447
01:25:30,375 --> 01:25:32,375
communities commissioner fleming

2448
01:25:32,667 --> 01:25:35,667
had a great statements about

2449
01:25:36,626 --> 01:25:38,501
flexibility it's going to be

2450
01:25:38,501 --> 01:25:40,167
critical in this analysis and in

2451
01:25:40,167 --> 01:25:41,999
terms of tying to funding

2452
01:25:41,999 --> 01:25:44,399
sources. I can support

2453
01:25:44,417 --> 01:25:45,999
conditioning but we have to make

2454
01:25:45,999 --> 01:25:47,584
sure we have a policy that there

2455
01:25:47,584 --> 01:25:50,459
is consensus on and that we're

2456
01:25:50,459 --> 01:25:51,999
recognizing uniquenesses between

2457
01:25:51,999 --> 01:25:54,334
rural and urban counties before

2458
01:25:54,334 --> 01:25:56,734
we start talking about

2459
01:25:56,876 --> 01:25:59,276
reconditioning and tying in

2460
01:26:00,459 --> 01:26:02,859
differences. With the concept

2461
01:26:02,959 --> 01:26:05,334
of analysis, I grate goals are

2462
01:26:05,334 --> 01:26:05,959
good. Thank you.

2463
01:26:05,959 --> 01:26:06,876
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2464
01:26:06,876 --> 01:26:07,918
chair: thank you. Vice chair

2465
01:26:07,918 --> 01:26:09,918
josefowitz. Nick?

2466
01:26:10,501 --> 01:26:11,125
>>nick josefowitz: thank you.

2467
01:26:11,125 --> 01:26:14,725
I think this policy is really

2468
01:26:14,999 --> 01:26:17,125
just has so many things to like

2469
01:26:17,125 --> 01:26:19,209
about it. I think it's

2470
01:26:19,209 --> 01:26:21,420
terrific. This is grounded in

2471
01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:23,584
planned bay area. That was a

2472
01:26:23,584 --> 01:26:25,375
document that has done so much

2473
01:26:25,375 --> 01:26:27,775
public outreach. I can't

2474
01:26:28,420 --> 01:26:29,792
remember the numbers, but what

2475
01:26:29,792 --> 01:26:31,792
was it? 10,000 conversations,

2476
01:26:32,250 --> 01:26:33,999
four years of discussions, you

2477
01:26:33,999 --> 01:26:37,667
know, voted on by so many -- by

2478
01:26:37,667 --> 01:26:40,999
abag and mtc and gone through so

2479
01:26:40,999 --> 01:26:42,000
many committees, and it's just

2480
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,542
great -- I think the packet that

2481
01:26:43,542 --> 01:26:45,167
this kind of builds on that and

2482
01:26:45,167 --> 01:26:47,999
is really an out -- it's so

2483
01:26:47,999 --> 01:26:48,959
important for the success of

2484
01:26:48,959 --> 01:26:50,751
this policy.

2485
01:26:50,751 --> 01:26:52,999
I think it's also great to see

2486
01:26:52,999 --> 01:26:56,599
how, like with planned bay area,

2487
01:26:56,751 --> 01:26:58,751
this is really grounded in the,

2488
01:26:58,751 --> 01:27:00,000
sort of, best practice for how

2489
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,000
to reduce the number and

2490
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,999
distance of trips taken, driving

2491
01:27:02,999 --> 01:27:04,420
alone and how to increase

2492
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:05,999
transit ridership, and that

2493
01:27:05,999 --> 01:27:07,876
we're moving to, sort of, really

2494
01:27:07,876 --> 01:27:10,830
incorporate our, sort of, a best

2495
01:27:10,830 --> 01:27:11,959
understanding of, sort of, the

2496
01:27:11,959 --> 01:27:14,959
densities and parking and tdm

2497
01:27:15,250 --> 01:27:16,459
requirements and not just

2498
01:27:16,459 --> 01:27:19,375
residential but also the needs

2499
01:27:19,375 --> 01:27:20,959
of commercial and the importance

2500
01:27:20,959 --> 01:27:23,250
of kind of taking into account,

2501
01:27:23,250 --> 01:27:24,125
sort of, equity.

2502
01:27:24,125 --> 01:27:26,167
and I think the main change just

2503
01:27:26,167 --> 01:27:29,167
really resonates with me we're

2504
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:31,542
moving from the idea of how to

2505
01:27:31,542 --> 01:27:34,459
build to create and preserving

2506
01:27:34,459 --> 01:27:36,999
communities and, sort of, moving

2507
01:27:36,999 --> 01:27:38,459
from housing to people with this

2508
01:27:38,459 --> 01:27:39,792
policy and I think that makes

2509
01:27:39,792 --> 01:27:41,792
such a difference.

2510
01:27:41,999 --> 01:27:43,918
I also wanted to say, I think it

2511
01:27:43,918 --> 01:27:45,709
is really powerful that this

2512
01:27:45,709 --> 01:27:47,999
policy is going to be tied to

2513
01:27:47,999 --> 01:27:49,751
funding. And that might be one

2514
01:27:49,751 --> 01:27:51,999
of the ways, and I think that

2515
01:27:51,999 --> 01:27:55,918
might be another way to build in

2516
01:27:55,918 --> 01:27:57,999
flexibility here. Because I

2517
01:27:57,999 --> 01:27:59,375
certainly acknowledge, and I

2518
01:27:59,375 --> 01:28:00,918
think it's important to have a

2519
01:28:00,918 --> 01:28:02,959
distinction between kind of

2520
01:28:02,959 --> 01:28:05,959
urban and rural places. I'm

2521
01:28:06,999 --> 01:28:09,375
sure we'll hear a lot of, sort

2522
01:28:09,375 --> 01:28:10,334
of, comments that we shouldn't

2523
01:28:10,334 --> 01:28:12,501
have one size fits all, and I

2524
01:28:12,501 --> 01:28:13,834
agree with that.

2525
01:28:13,834 --> 01:28:17,125
but, I do think that in whatever

2526
01:28:17,125 --> 01:28:19,999
place we're looking at f this

2527
01:28:19,999 --> 01:28:22,420
region is making a significant

2528
01:28:22,420 --> 01:28:23,999
investment in transit service,

2529
01:28:23,999 --> 01:28:26,999
or in transit expansion, that

2530
01:28:26,999 --> 01:28:29,375
there have to be -- there has to

2531
01:28:29,375 --> 01:28:31,792
be, sort of, a commence or

2532
01:28:31,792 --> 01:28:33,999
expectation for making the, sort

2533
01:28:33,999 --> 01:28:35,999
of, land uses making the, sort

2534
01:28:35,999 --> 01:28:38,584
of, work around that investment

2535
01:28:38,584 --> 01:28:41,542
so maybe one of the ways of

2536
01:28:41,542 --> 01:28:44,542
phasing this policy this is

2537
01:28:44,999 --> 01:28:46,501
around the investment going into

2538
01:28:46,501 --> 01:28:48,626
these communities overlaid with

2539
01:28:48,626 --> 01:28:51,999
the kind of rural fabric I think

2540
01:28:51,999 --> 01:28:53,876
that's incredibly important.

2541
01:28:53,876 --> 01:28:55,209
and the other element of

2542
01:28:55,209 --> 01:28:58,292
funding, we didn't hear it today

2543
01:28:58,292 --> 01:29:00,375
but we heard it in a

2544
01:29:00,375 --> 01:29:01,918
presentation on wednesday which

2545
01:29:01,918 --> 01:29:02,999
wasn't a joint abag

2546
01:29:02,999 --> 01:29:04,584
presentation, but there is so

2547
01:29:04,584 --> 01:29:05,999
much new planning money coming

2548
01:29:05,999 --> 01:29:07,417
to this region and I think that

2549
01:29:07,417 --> 01:29:08,999
is going to be essential that

2550
01:29:08,999 --> 01:29:10,876
that planning money is, sort of,

2551
01:29:10,876 --> 01:29:13,209
tied up with, sort of, the

2552
01:29:13,209 --> 01:29:15,876
expectations in this toc policy.

2553
01:29:15,876 --> 01:29:18,876
so that those communities who

2554
01:29:18,918 --> 01:29:21,918
have expectations of kind of

2555
01:29:22,918 --> 01:29:25,999
being the first movers are also

2556
01:29:25,999 --> 01:29:30,799
teed up to be able to get the

2557
01:29:33,751 --> 01:29:35,250
planning money to support that

2558
01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:36,918
movement and that work. And

2559
01:29:36,918 --> 01:29:39,318
this is comprehensive in

2560
01:29:39,834 --> 01:29:40,709
communicating that to us and

2561
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:43,109
other stakeholders about the

2562
01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:44,375
planning funding availability

2563
01:29:44,375 --> 01:29:45,918
that's coming down and how

2564
01:29:45,918 --> 01:29:48,834
you're going to coordinate that.

2565
01:29:48,834 --> 01:29:51,667
and then, you know, finally on

2566
01:29:51,667 --> 01:29:55,867
the, you know, the -- and I

2567
01:29:58,834 --> 01:30:02,167
agree with -- and I appreciate

2568
01:30:02,167 --> 01:30:03,667
commissioner spering and

2569
01:30:03,667 --> 01:30:05,667
director mcmillan's comments

2570
01:30:05,959 --> 01:30:08,999
that this isn't all going happen

2571
01:30:08,999 --> 01:30:12,876
at once. I realize there is a

2572
01:30:12,876 --> 01:30:15,876
real emergency, planned bay area

2573
01:30:15,999 --> 01:30:18,399
has this region building 32,000

2574
01:30:18,626 --> 01:30:21,626
homes in transit-rich areas and

2575
01:30:22,751 --> 01:30:25,420
creating 25,000 new jobs in

2576
01:30:25,420 --> 01:30:27,334
transit-rich areas ever year

2577
01:30:27,334 --> 01:30:29,334
from now until 2050. 32,000

2578
01:30:31,709 --> 01:30:35,909
homes a year from now every year

2579
01:30:36,999 --> 01:30:39,999
from now until 2050 and every

2580
01:30:40,830 --> 01:30:43,250
year we're not doing that, that

2581
01:30:43,250 --> 01:30:45,792
moons we have to build more the

2582
01:30:45,792 --> 01:30:47,417
year after and more the year

2583
01:30:47,417 --> 01:30:51,501
after. We can face this in a

2584
01:30:51,501 --> 01:30:54,501
way that jump starts the,

2585
01:30:57,125 --> 01:30:58,999
achieving the goals we have laid

2586
01:30:58,999 --> 01:31:00,999
out in planned bay area but is

2587
01:31:00,999 --> 01:31:03,420
so important to make this region

2588
01:31:03,420 --> 01:31:04,918
affordable and to kind of come

2589
01:31:04,918 --> 01:31:06,626
to grips with the drivers of

2590
01:31:06,626 --> 01:31:07,209
climate change. Thank you.

2591
01:31:07,209 --> 01:31:08,876
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2592
01:31:08,876 --> 01:31:09,999
chair: okay. Thank you.

2593
01:31:09,999 --> 01:31:12,399
president arreguin and then

2594
01:31:12,792 --> 01:31:14,501
damon connolly. Jesse, you're

2595
01:31:14,501 --> 01:31:14,834
up.

2596
01:31:14,834 --> 01:31:15,999
>>jesse arreguin, abag

2597
01:31:15,999 --> 01:31:16,584
administrative chair: thank

2598
01:31:16,584 --> 01:31:19,501
you, mr. Chair. I agree with

2599
01:31:19,501 --> 01:31:21,999
your comments. I kind of frame

2600
01:31:21,999 --> 01:31:23,125
the discussion which is that

2601
01:31:23,125 --> 01:31:24,999
this policy is a critical step

2602
01:31:24,999 --> 01:31:26,420
to implement planned bay area

2603
01:31:26,420 --> 01:31:28,125
but it's not all going to be

2604
01:31:28,125 --> 01:31:29,751
done at once and I think there

2605
01:31:29,751 --> 01:31:31,542
is a lot to consider. Not just

2606
01:31:31,542 --> 01:31:33,292
how local governments will have

2607
01:31:33,292 --> 01:31:35,459
to comply with these

2608
01:31:35,459 --> 01:31:39,590
requirements so that they can be

2609
01:31:39,292 --> 01:31:41,420
competitive for regional

2610
01:31:41,420 --> 01:31:42,125
discretionary funds how this

2611
01:31:42,125 --> 01:31:44,417
will impact the eligibility of

2612
01:31:44,417 --> 01:31:45,999
transit projects because transit

2613
01:31:45,999 --> 01:31:47,999
agencies don't have control over

2614
01:31:47,999 --> 01:31:50,000
local land use planning. That

2615
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:51,626
is something that is dedicated

2616
01:31:51,626 --> 01:31:53,959
to local governments. But I see

2617
01:31:53,959 --> 01:31:55,459
this as the rubber really

2618
01:31:55,459 --> 01:31:58,125
meeting the road. Where if we

2619
01:31:58,125 --> 01:31:59,999
aren't as, as vice chair

2620
01:31:59,999 --> 01:32:02,167
josefowitz said, meeting the

2621
01:32:02,167 --> 01:32:03,999
targets that we set out in

2622
01:32:03,999 --> 01:32:05,417
planned bay area to achieve the

2623
01:32:05,417 --> 01:32:07,250
certain number of unit in our

2624
01:32:07,250 --> 01:32:09,501
region over the next 30 years f

2625
01:32:09,501 --> 01:32:11,584
we're going to implement many of

2626
01:32:11,584 --> 01:32:12,542
the housing policies that we

2627
01:32:12,542 --> 01:32:14,626
have outlined we need to have

2628
01:32:14,626 --> 01:32:16,459
incentives for people to comply

2629
01:32:16,459 --> 01:32:18,334
and if local governments are not

2630
01:32:18,334 --> 01:32:20,709
going to meet those benchmarks

2631
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:22,830
then other communities that are,

2632
01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:24,167
are going to be awarded and are

2633
01:32:24,167 --> 01:32:25,999
going to be eligible for these

2634
01:32:25,999 --> 01:32:27,918
funds. I would say as president

2635
01:32:27,918 --> 01:32:29,334
of abag I appreciate all the

2636
01:32:29,334 --> 01:32:31,918
work that's being done this is a

2637
01:32:31,918 --> 01:32:33,751
critical implementation action

2638
01:32:33,751 --> 01:32:35,584
to help us realize the goals of

2639
01:32:35,584 --> 01:32:36,709
planned bay area. And to that I

2640
01:32:36,709 --> 01:32:38,501
want to make a request to the

2641
01:32:38,501 --> 01:32:40,000
executive director while abag

2642
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,999
has a no vote on this, I think

2643
01:32:41,999 --> 01:32:43,417
our feedback could be helpful to

2644
01:32:43,417 --> 01:32:46,250
staff at the mtc commission, as

2645
01:32:46,250 --> 01:32:48,667
mtc is evaluating this policy

2646
01:32:48,667 --> 01:32:50,375
and I want to respectful of

2647
01:32:50,375 --> 01:32:52,918
request to ms. Mcmillan if we

2648
01:32:52,918 --> 01:32:56,518
could get a presentation of to

2649
01:32:56,999 --> 01:32:58,000
the executive board and the

2650
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:58,999
executive board can provide

2651
01:32:58,999 --> 01:33:00,999
whatever comments to staff to

2652
01:33:00,999 --> 01:33:02,542
share with the mtc commission.

2653
01:33:02,542 --> 01:33:03,959
because I think this is really

2654
01:33:03,959 --> 01:33:05,459
important. And it does actually

2655
01:33:05,459 --> 01:33:09,590
help us realize the goals and

2656
01:33:09,751 --> 01:33:10,876
requirements of the regional

2657
01:33:10,876 --> 01:33:12,375
housing needs allocation, which

2658
01:33:12,375 --> 01:33:15,334
as we know are very different

2659
01:33:15,334 --> 01:33:17,375
from previous rhna cycles was

2660
01:33:17,375 --> 01:33:19,334
not just limited to focusing on

2661
01:33:19,334 --> 01:33:20,626
priority development areas but

2662
01:33:20,626 --> 01:33:23,417
looked at transit-rich areas and

2663
01:33:23,417 --> 01:33:24,999
high-resource areas as where

2664
01:33:24,999 --> 01:33:26,209
additional housing could be

2665
01:33:26,209 --> 01:33:27,667
accommodated.

2666
01:33:27,667 --> 01:33:28,834
and I think if local governments

2667
01:33:28,834 --> 01:33:30,709
are going to have to meet those

2668
01:33:30,709 --> 01:33:32,751
rhna requirements, and are going

2669
01:33:32,751 --> 01:33:35,167
to have to rezone sites, they

2670
01:33:35,167 --> 01:33:36,999
should be rewarded for their

2671
01:33:36,999 --> 01:33:39,125
work with potential planning

2672
01:33:39,125 --> 01:33:40,999
grants or other discretionary

2673
01:33:40,999 --> 01:33:42,334
funds.

2674
01:33:42,334 --> 01:33:44,375
that's how we are going to get

2675
01:33:44,375 --> 01:33:46,834
local governments to not only

2676
01:33:46,834 --> 01:33:48,250
implement those requirements,

2677
01:33:48,250 --> 01:33:51,850
but also to build the housing,

2678
01:33:51,999 --> 01:33:53,334
quickly, affordable housing that

2679
01:33:53,334 --> 01:33:55,000
we need in our region. But

2680
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,999
there is a lot to consider.

2681
01:33:56,999 --> 01:33:57,918
there are communities that are

2682
01:33:57,918 --> 01:33:59,999
not ready to implement this.

2683
01:33:59,999 --> 01:34:01,999
and so what are we going to do

2684
01:34:01,999 --> 01:34:05,599
to help work with them providing

2685
01:34:06,667 --> 01:34:08,667
resources and technical

2686
01:34:08,999 --> 01:34:10,417
assistance that they can be in a

2687
01:34:10,417 --> 01:34:12,501
position to be able to be

2688
01:34:12,501 --> 01:34:13,834
competitive. That's going to be

2689
01:34:13,834 --> 01:34:16,234
part of the phasing

2690
01:34:16,542 --> 01:34:17,751
conversation. But I think the

2691
01:34:17,751 --> 01:34:19,420
goals of this policy are good.

2692
01:34:19,420 --> 01:34:21,209
they're critical for us to

2693
01:34:21,209 --> 01:34:22,209
achieve our greenhouse gas

2694
01:34:22,209 --> 01:34:24,125
reduction goals to achieve our

2695
01:34:24,125 --> 01:34:26,420
affordability goals. And make

2696
01:34:26,420 --> 01:34:28,420
the transportation funding

2697
01:34:28,626 --> 01:34:29,999
investments in areas where we

2698
01:34:29,999 --> 01:34:32,399
have good densities, good

2699
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,792
population density, and we are

2700
01:34:37,792 --> 01:34:40,501
-- and we have good transit

2701
01:34:40,501 --> 01:34:41,918
connectivity as well. So, thank

2702
01:34:41,918 --> 01:34:44,542
you to staff for all your work.

2703
01:34:44,542 --> 01:34:45,999
look forward to a presentation

2704
01:34:45,999 --> 01:34:47,999
at abag. We look forward to

2705
01:34:47,999 --> 01:34:49,918
providing our feedback for the

2706
01:34:49,918 --> 01:34:51,751
commission to consider. This is

2707
01:34:51,751 --> 01:34:55,351
very important. And I think if

2708
01:34:55,417 --> 01:34:58,420
done right could have a really

2709
01:34:58,420 --> 01:34:59,459
transformative impact on our

2710
01:34:59,459 --> 01:34:59,999
region. Thank you

2711
01:34:59,999 --> 01:35:00,918
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2712
01:35:00,918 --> 01:35:03,167
chair: thanks jesse. Damon

2713
01:35:03,167 --> 01:35:05,542
connolly, then one of my

2714
01:35:05,542 --> 01:35:07,942
favorite mayors, mayor schaff.

2715
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,000
damon?

2716
01:35:12,292 --> 01:35:12,999
>>damon connolly: appreciate

2717
01:35:12,999 --> 01:35:14,167
the discussion and goals that

2718
01:35:14,167 --> 01:35:16,501
we're trying to achieve. We're

2719
01:35:16,501 --> 01:35:17,999
starting to get questions

2720
01:35:17,999 --> 01:35:19,375
locally, so really appreciate

2721
01:35:19,375 --> 01:35:21,542
the signal that this is the

2722
01:35:21,542 --> 01:35:24,542
start of a conversation and

2723
01:35:25,999 --> 01:35:28,999
we'll be bringing localities to

2724
01:35:33,125 --> 01:35:35,709
the calling of the conversation.

2725
01:35:35,709 --> 01:35:37,918
I want to bring back a point, I

2726
01:35:37,918 --> 01:35:40,918
think it was by commissioner

2727
01:35:40,999 --> 01:35:43,626
fleming, about situations in the

2728
01:35:43,626 --> 01:35:44,542
north bay, for example, where

2729
01:35:44,542 --> 01:35:46,000
you have a larger regional

2730
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,400
transit center serving multiple

2731
01:35:49,375 --> 01:35:52,375
communities, at the same time,

2732
01:35:53,584 --> 01:35:55,751
being adjacent to smaller towns

2733
01:35:55,751 --> 01:35:58,751
or cities, so, the juxtaposition

2734
01:36:00,501 --> 01:36:02,834
of finding for that center or

2735
01:36:02,834 --> 01:36:04,751
increased service that are being

2736
01:36:04,751 --> 01:36:06,417
tied to planning decisions going

2737
01:36:06,417 --> 01:36:10,170
on a hyper-local basis. So, the

2738
01:36:11,292 --> 01:36:14,292
question is, kind of, will

2739
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,334
whatever we ultimately adopt

2740
01:36:18,334 --> 01:36:20,334
actually incentivize transit

2741
01:36:22,999 --> 01:36:23,999
improvements and the concern

2742
01:36:23,999 --> 01:36:25,459
about holding regional projects

2743
01:36:25,459 --> 01:36:27,859
or regional funding accountable,

2744
01:36:29,334 --> 01:36:32,334
if you will, to, really,

2745
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:35,830
hyper-local planning

2746
01:36:35,292 --> 01:36:36,250
decision-making. It's something

2747
01:36:36,250 --> 01:36:39,292
that we need to, at least, work

2748
01:36:39,292 --> 01:36:41,420
through. What sorts of funds

2749
01:36:41,420 --> 01:36:43,999
will be affected. That needs to

2750
01:36:43,999 --> 01:36:45,209
continued to be worked through.

2751
01:36:45,209 --> 01:36:47,792
I am reminded that we did have a

2752
01:36:47,792 --> 01:36:49,292
robust discussion as a

2753
01:36:49,292 --> 01:36:51,000
commission about the issue of

2754
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,876
conditioning. I think we landed

2755
01:36:52,876 --> 01:36:56,417
in some solid places on that.

2756
01:36:56,417 --> 01:36:59,999
so, keeping that in mind, and of

2757
01:36:59,999 --> 01:37:01,709
course, flexibility, as folks

2758
01:37:01,709 --> 01:37:04,125
have noted. And then I'm also

2759
01:37:04,125 --> 01:37:05,334
hearing the question that has

2760
01:37:05,334 --> 01:37:07,459
been teed up today about what

2761
01:37:07,459 --> 01:37:08,999
potential areas are we talking

2762
01:37:08,999 --> 01:37:12,599
about beyond pdas in terms of

2763
01:37:14,167 --> 01:37:15,876
the approaches here. And of

2764
01:37:15,876 --> 01:37:17,876
course, heavy-duty coordination

2765
01:37:17,999 --> 01:37:20,626
with local transit operators and

2766
01:37:20,626 --> 01:37:22,626
communities. Thanks.

2767
01:37:23,751 --> 01:37:24,292
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2768
01:37:24,292 --> 01:37:26,626
chair: thank you, damon.

2769
01:37:26,626 --> 01:37:28,667
and after mayor schaff will be

2770
01:37:28,667 --> 01:37:30,420
amy worth.

2771
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:31,667
mayor schaff?

2772
01:37:31,667 --> 01:37:32,250
>>libby schaaf: thank you,

2773
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:34,501
chair spering. My favorite

2774
01:37:34,501 --> 01:37:34,876
chair.

2775
01:37:34,876 --> 01:37:36,125
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2776
01:37:36,125 --> 01:37:37,292
chair: [laughter]

2777
01:37:37,292 --> 01:37:39,334
>>libby schaaf: well, I want to

2778
01:37:39,334 --> 01:37:40,751
commend staff. I think they

2779
01:37:40,751 --> 01:37:43,626
have done an amazing job. And I

2780
01:37:43,626 --> 01:37:47,826
know that now is the time, or

2781
01:37:48,999 --> 01:37:50,959
the devil is in the details, and

2782
01:37:50,959 --> 01:37:52,584
I encourage you to continue

2783
01:37:52,584 --> 01:37:53,959
working with the technical

2784
01:37:53,959 --> 01:37:54,999
advisory committee. I do have

2785
01:37:54,999 --> 01:37:56,834
one question. You don't have to

2786
01:37:56,834 --> 01:37:58,667
answer it, but just for your

2787
01:37:58,667 --> 01:38:00,375
consideration, I saw, kind

2788
01:38:00,375 --> 01:38:03,375
of, "credit" for having, sort

2789
01:38:05,420 --> 01:38:06,125
of, inclusionary zoning

2790
01:38:06,125 --> 01:38:09,000
policies, but I did not see

2791
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,584
mention of affordable housing

2792
01:38:10,584 --> 01:38:12,792
impact fees. In oakland we have

2793
01:38:12,792 --> 01:38:14,125
affordable housing impact fees

2794
01:38:14,125 --> 01:38:17,459
with an in lieu option to

2795
01:38:17,459 --> 01:38:19,459
include the unit in the project.

2796
01:38:19,459 --> 01:38:22,125
so it's almost the same thing as

2797
01:38:22,125 --> 01:38:24,999
inclusionary with an in lieu fee

2798
01:38:24,999 --> 01:38:27,420
option. We just did it the

2799
01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:29,000
other way for several reasons.

2800
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,999
so if you could look into that,

2801
01:38:31,999 --> 01:38:33,999
it's one of those details. I

2802
01:38:33,999 --> 01:38:35,999
want to echo a little bit of

2803
01:38:35,999 --> 01:38:38,417
what some of my colleagues have

2804
01:38:38,417 --> 01:38:41,999
said. You know, the time to be

2805
01:38:41,999 --> 01:38:44,999
scared or have the bejeebers

2806
01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:50,375
scared out of you is past. We

2807
01:38:50,375 --> 01:38:52,292
already did the big bold thing

2808
01:38:52,292 --> 01:38:53,876
and adopted planned bay area.

2809
01:38:53,876 --> 01:38:55,501
and remember that the modeling

2810
01:38:55,501 --> 01:38:59,626
in that plan respond to state of

2811
01:38:59,626 --> 01:39:01,626
california mandated greenhouse

2812
01:39:01,999 --> 01:39:02,999
gas reductions.

2813
01:39:02,999 --> 01:39:05,959
this is not an option. We are

2814
01:39:05,959 --> 01:39:08,167
responding to a state mandate.

2815
01:39:08,167 --> 01:39:10,292
if you need to blame someone

2816
01:39:10,292 --> 01:39:13,892
besides mtc or abag. We already

2817
01:39:13,999 --> 01:39:15,999
agreed to these densities. This

2818
01:39:15,999 --> 01:39:18,375
is now, actually, making that

2819
01:39:18,375 --> 01:39:21,375
commitment real by putting an

2820
01:39:22,420 --> 01:39:23,834
implementation plan around t we

2821
01:39:23,834 --> 01:39:25,959
will not be able to reach the

2822
01:39:25,959 --> 01:39:27,959
goals that we committed to in

2823
01:39:27,959 --> 01:39:30,375
the plan without this policy. I

2824
01:39:30,375 --> 01:39:32,775
am convinced of that.

2825
01:39:34,375 --> 01:39:36,417
leadership is about making

2826
01:39:36,417 --> 01:39:38,817
people unemployment. But it's

2827
01:39:39,250 --> 01:39:42,542
because we are the only ones who

2828
01:39:42,542 --> 01:39:44,834
are equipped with the damage and

2829
01:39:44,834 --> 01:39:47,834
the tools, the actual authority,

2830
01:39:47,999 --> 01:39:50,399
to future-proof our beloved

2831
01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:53,542
communities. So think of this

2832
01:39:53,542 --> 01:39:55,999
as an act of love. Because the

2833
01:39:55,999 --> 01:39:57,999
future is depending on it.

2834
01:39:57,999 --> 01:40:00,999
I want to, also, specifically,

2835
01:40:02,334 --> 01:40:05,334
appreciate that all three p's

2836
01:40:07,501 --> 01:40:09,626
are covered in this plan,

2837
01:40:09,626 --> 01:40:11,626
production, preservation, and

2838
01:40:12,918 --> 01:40:14,751
protection. The bay area has

2839
01:40:14,751 --> 01:40:16,999
strong affordable housing and

2840
01:40:16,999 --> 01:40:17,999
anti-displacement goals. These

2841
01:40:17,999 --> 01:40:19,501
are in the plan and these

2842
01:40:19,501 --> 01:40:20,918
policies are important to

2843
01:40:20,918 --> 01:40:23,167
achieving the goal's plan. And

2844
01:40:23,167 --> 01:40:25,209
I can just become oakland's

2845
01:40:25,209 --> 01:40:26,626
experience, having these types

2846
01:40:26,626 --> 01:40:29,626
of policies has not discouraged

2847
01:40:29,999 --> 01:40:32,830
development, certainly, in our

2848
01:40:32,830 --> 01:40:34,999
city. We have seen the largest

2849
01:40:34,999 --> 01:40:36,501
development boom, we believe,

2850
01:40:36,501 --> 01:40:38,901
since the 1906 earthquake, we

2851
01:40:39,792 --> 01:40:42,792
have added 17,000 new units of

2852
01:40:42,834 --> 01:40:44,999
housing to our city in the last

2853
01:40:44,999 --> 01:40:46,959
seven years. It's pretty

2854
01:40:46,959 --> 01:40:50,559
phenomenal. And so, that is, at

2855
01:40:51,999 --> 01:40:54,399
least, a proof point.

2856
01:40:54,751 --> 01:40:57,375
I just want to, again, end by

2857
01:40:57,375 --> 01:40:59,792
saying that, personally, I love

2858
01:40:59,792 --> 01:41:02,709
the boldness, but I want to

2859
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:06,834
assure you, I will listen to my

2860
01:41:06,834 --> 01:41:08,501
colleagues. I will do my best

2861
01:41:08,501 --> 01:41:13,301
to keep an open mind to a well

2862
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:15,999
justified recommendations, to

2863
01:41:15,999 --> 01:41:17,375
phase this implementation plan

2864
01:41:17,375 --> 01:41:21,575
in over time. But, I do caution

2865
01:41:21,751 --> 01:41:25,830
us that time is of the essence.

2866
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:26,999
climate change will not wait for

2867
01:41:26,999 --> 01:41:28,999
any of us. And I also want to

2868
01:41:28,999 --> 01:41:30,999
mention that many of us are

2869
01:41:30,999 --> 01:41:32,459
updating our housing elements

2870
01:41:32,459 --> 01:41:34,250
right now. So, it's a perfect

2871
01:41:34,250 --> 01:41:36,650
time to incorporate this

2872
01:41:36,999 --> 01:41:38,999
implementation plan so that it

2873
01:41:38,999 --> 01:41:40,999
can actually make it into the

2874
01:41:40,999 --> 01:41:42,584
work that we're each doing with

2875
01:41:42,584 --> 01:41:44,334
our housing elements.

2876
01:41:44,334 --> 01:41:47,934
so, those are my thoughts. But

2877
01:41:47,959 --> 01:41:49,792
that is also my commitment to

2878
01:41:49,792 --> 01:41:52,250
keep an open mind to phasing.

2879
01:41:52,250 --> 01:41:53,542
and I look forward to working

2880
01:41:53,542 --> 01:41:54,751
through this leadership

2881
01:41:54,751 --> 01:41:56,584
challenge that has been given to

2882
01:41:56,584 --> 01:42:00,459
each and every one of us, as we

2883
01:42:00,459 --> 01:42:02,459
future-proof our beloved

2884
01:42:05,125 --> 01:42:05,626
communities.

2885
01:42:05,626 --> 01:42:06,167
>>jim spering, mtc planning

2886
01:42:06,167 --> 01:42:07,999
chair: thank you, mayor schaff.

2887
01:42:07,999 --> 01:42:10,399
your open-mindedness has been

2888
01:42:17,420 --> 01:42:19,420
respective.

2889
01:42:23,459 --> 01:42:23,999
commissioner worth?

2890
01:42:23,999 --> 01:42:25,999
>>amy r. Worth:

2891
01:42:28,125 --> 01:42:30,525
open-mindedness, I don't think

2892
01:42:30,999 --> 01:42:32,999
there is anybody who is more

2893
01:42:32,999 --> 01:42:34,830
passionate about producing

2894
01:42:34,830 --> 01:42:36,417
housing and our obligation to

2895
01:42:36,417 --> 01:42:38,817
doing that. You're representing

2896
01:42:40,501 --> 01:42:43,501
19 cities of diverse sizes, and

2897
01:42:44,999 --> 01:42:47,375
there is a lot in this plan that

2898
01:42:47,375 --> 01:42:49,000
can be implemented and

2899
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,000
benefitted in light of the fact

2900
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,959
that all of our cities are

2901
01:42:52,959 --> 01:42:55,359
undertaking the rhna process.

2902
01:42:55,501 --> 01:42:57,876
with that being said, what I'm

2903
01:42:57,876 --> 01:42:59,667
concerned about, as we look at

2904
01:42:59,667 --> 01:43:02,792
this plan and we move forward,

2905
01:43:02,792 --> 01:43:04,999
that we want to make sure that

2906
01:43:04,999 --> 01:43:06,999
the incorporation of a lot of

2907
01:43:06,999 --> 01:43:09,292
these policies, one includes the

2908
01:43:09,292 --> 01:43:12,292
active engagement of our city

2909
01:43:12,417 --> 01:43:14,125
planning directors. I know that

2910
01:43:14,125 --> 01:43:15,999
most directors, this is now

2911
01:43:15,999 --> 01:43:18,417
coming on their radar screens,

2912
01:43:18,417 --> 01:43:20,999
it has not been on their radar

2913
01:43:20,999 --> 01:43:22,584
screens, they have been

2914
01:43:22,584 --> 01:43:24,959
grappling with rhna, and I

2915
01:43:24,959 --> 01:43:26,501
appreciate the funding that abag

2916
01:43:26,501 --> 01:43:29,375
has provided through the reap

2917
01:43:29,375 --> 01:43:30,918
program for cities to do the

2918
01:43:30,918 --> 01:43:32,959
kinds of planning needed to

2919
01:43:32,959 --> 01:43:34,959
accommodate these significantly

2920
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,167
larger rhna numbers. So, cities

2921
01:43:38,167 --> 01:43:40,751
are going to be planning and

2922
01:43:40,751 --> 01:43:42,999
zoning for significant changes

2923
01:43:42,999 --> 01:43:46,167
over the next year. But I think

2924
01:43:46,167 --> 01:43:47,626
it's really important that any

2925
01:43:47,626 --> 01:43:50,292
of -- the policies that we

2926
01:43:50,292 --> 01:43:53,292
eventually adopt do not either

2927
01:43:53,876 --> 01:43:54,999
prevent the development of

2928
01:43:54,999 --> 01:43:58,599
housing, or put cities in a

2929
01:43:58,999 --> 01:44:00,830
position where they are

2930
01:44:00,830 --> 01:44:01,167
implementing their rhna

2931
01:44:01,167 --> 01:44:02,876
requirement, but because they

2932
01:44:02,876 --> 01:44:07,760
don't cross the t's and dot the

2933
01:44:09,959 --> 01:44:13,420
ayes you're going to be seeing

2934
01:44:13,420 --> 01:44:14,876
significant increase in housing

2935
01:44:14,876 --> 01:44:17,276
densities without dollars to

2936
01:44:18,292 --> 01:44:20,292
provide the transportation

2937
01:44:25,626 --> 01:44:26,417
infrastructure needed to

2938
01:44:26,417 --> 01:44:29,417
accommodate those. We have been

2939
01:44:35,999 --> 01:44:38,399
grappling with the housing

2940
01:44:39,167 --> 01:44:41,567
challenges and surplus capacity

2941
01:44:48,459 --> 01:44:50,375
inclusionary density is a goal

2942
01:44:50,375 --> 01:44:54,575
we all want to have happen, but

2943
01:44:54,667 --> 01:44:56,709
at some points the projects

2944
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:58,999
don't pencil. I am particularly

2945
01:44:58,999 --> 01:45:00,459
concerned about that. And

2946
01:45:00,459 --> 01:45:01,584
recognizing that one size does

2947
01:45:01,584 --> 01:45:04,250
not fit all in these density

2948
01:45:04,250 --> 01:45:06,650
requirements, that are outlined,

2949
01:45:06,999 --> 01:45:09,459
so, I really think that the city

2950
01:45:09,459 --> 01:45:11,167
planning directors who are

2951
01:45:11,167 --> 01:45:12,542
grappling right now with this

2952
01:45:12,542 --> 01:45:15,125
very issue of how do we -- you

2953
01:45:15,125 --> 01:45:16,792
know, what do we need to

2954
01:45:16,792 --> 01:45:17,918
incorporate these planning goals

2955
01:45:17,918 --> 01:45:19,417
in our community and what it's

2956
01:45:19,417 --> 01:45:22,250
going to look like. And so I

2957
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:23,584
really appreciate the

2958
01:45:23,584 --> 01:45:25,417
perspective of our executive

2959
01:45:25,417 --> 01:45:27,830
director and our chair,

2960
01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:29,584
outlining the fact that this is

2961
01:45:29,584 --> 01:45:30,375
the beginning of a discussion

2962
01:45:30,375 --> 01:45:33,375
about these policies. And the

2963
01:45:38,667 --> 01:45:40,999
pda and obag policies have

2964
01:45:40,999 --> 01:45:43,000
really positioned our region

2965
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,999
really well. But I also think

2966
01:45:44,999 --> 01:45:46,292
that it's very important that

2967
01:45:46,292 --> 01:45:48,250
we're able to meet these housing

2968
01:45:48,250 --> 01:45:50,420
goals. And in our county we

2969
01:45:50,420 --> 01:45:52,125
have cities that have entitled

2970
01:45:52,125 --> 01:45:53,999
projects, multi-family housing

2971
01:45:53,999 --> 01:45:55,626
project that are not being built

2972
01:45:55,626 --> 01:45:58,999
because they cannot pencil s I

2973
01:45:58,999 --> 01:46:00,959
really think we need to be

2974
01:46:00,959 --> 01:46:02,709
mindful as we look into these

2975
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:04,542
policies, what fits within our

2976
01:46:04,542 --> 01:46:07,420
communities, but also how do we

2977
01:46:07,420 --> 01:46:08,792
achieve the goal of actually

2978
01:46:08,792 --> 01:46:10,667
producing the housing that is

2979
01:46:10,667 --> 01:46:12,125
desperately needed. Final

2980
01:46:12,125 --> 01:46:15,725
piece. And then I'll conclude I

2981
01:46:15,834 --> 01:46:16,999
appreciate the element in this

2982
01:46:16,999 --> 01:46:18,792
that talk about providing and

2983
01:46:18,792 --> 01:46:21,375
encouraging the movement of jobs

2984
01:46:21,375 --> 01:46:22,999
throughout the region. And I

2985
01:46:22,999 --> 01:46:24,959
think that this is one of the

2986
01:46:24,959 --> 01:46:26,667
huge challenges that we should

2987
01:46:26,667 --> 01:46:28,375
have for our greenhouse gas

2988
01:46:28,375 --> 01:46:31,959
targets is that we have people

2989
01:46:31,959 --> 01:46:33,999
traveling long distances from

2990
01:46:33,999 --> 01:46:37,000
home to jobs and if we can move

2991
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,876
more jobs into more counties

2992
01:46:38,876 --> 01:46:40,375
where we have population centers

2993
01:46:40,375 --> 01:46:44,575
and a workforce that is there to

2994
01:46:44,751 --> 01:46:46,667
fill those jobs, I think that

2995
01:46:46,667 --> 01:46:49,626
can go a long way, also. So, in

2996
01:46:49,626 --> 01:46:50,999
achieving these greenhouse gas

2997
01:46:50,999 --> 01:46:52,999
targets. So I look forward to

2998
01:46:52,999 --> 01:46:54,167
conversations, and I look

2999
01:46:54,167 --> 01:46:55,292
forward to the opportunity for

3000
01:46:55,292 --> 01:46:57,959
not only the n that chart, not

3001
01:46:57,959 --> 01:46:59,834
only this county transportation

3002
01:46:59,834 --> 01:47:01,834
authority's planning directors

3003
01:47:01,999 --> 01:47:03,999
engage, but I really think that

3004
01:47:03,999 --> 01:47:05,542
the city planning directors also

3005
01:47:05,542 --> 01:47:07,667
can provide really important

3006
01:47:07,667 --> 01:47:10,375
input in terms of how these

3007
01:47:10,375 --> 01:47:13,626
policies can be -- how they

3008
01:47:13,626 --> 01:47:14,999
impact our ability to produce

3009
01:47:14,999 --> 01:47:16,999
housing that is so much needed.

3010
01:47:16,999 --> 01:47:19,399
thank you very much.

3011
01:47:27,209 --> 01:47:27,999
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3012
01:47:27,999 --> 01:47:30,999
chair: thank you. Amy. Gina

3013
01:47:31,292 --> 01:47:33,692
your out last comment.

3014
01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:37,830
>>gina papan: thank you to

3015
01:47:40,667 --> 01:47:42,999
staff. The question is how we

3016
01:47:42,999 --> 01:47:45,830
get there and how it actually

3017
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:46,876
works. I cannot emphasize

3018
01:47:46,876 --> 01:47:49,375
enough including in your tech

3019
01:47:49,375 --> 01:47:51,167
advisory committee some of the

3020
01:47:51,167 --> 01:47:51,999
jurisdictions that have already

3021
01:47:51,999 --> 01:47:53,918
been put through some of this.

3022
01:47:53,918 --> 01:47:55,751
because what this policy does

3023
01:47:55,751 --> 01:47:58,375
is, it does not hold the transit

3024
01:47:58,375 --> 01:48:00,830
operators accountable. So, I

3025
01:48:00,830 --> 01:48:01,542
think I individuals before, I

3026
01:48:01,542 --> 01:48:03,709
mean, in my jurisdiction -- and

3027
01:48:03,709 --> 01:48:05,000
thank you for putting up

3028
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,709
pictures from three different

3029
01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:08,501
cities in my jurisdiction, you

3030
01:48:08,501 --> 01:48:09,876
can see we're trying to

3031
01:48:09,876 --> 01:48:11,751
accommodate. We are building.

3032
01:48:11,751 --> 01:48:14,751
but, right now, we're being

3033
01:48:15,459 --> 01:48:17,417
interfered with by high speed

3034
01:48:17,417 --> 01:48:19,167
rail and some other transit

3035
01:48:19,167 --> 01:48:20,999
operators. So they are not

3036
01:48:20,999 --> 01:48:22,501
necessarily our friends. There

3037
01:48:22,501 --> 01:48:24,626
is an existing transit-rich

3038
01:48:24,626 --> 01:48:26,334
area. We get that. That's

3039
01:48:26,334 --> 01:48:27,459
wonderful.

3040
01:48:27,459 --> 01:48:29,459
but they're not helpful. You

3041
01:48:29,459 --> 01:48:33,590
have a portion that says access.

3042
01:48:34,999 --> 01:48:37,999
again, the transit operators are

3043
01:48:37,999 --> 01:48:40,399
not concerned with access.

3044
01:48:40,751 --> 01:48:43,751
parking, if you cannot park at a

3045
01:48:43,751 --> 01:48:47,351
major modal center, you are not

3046
01:48:47,626 --> 01:48:49,667
going to take transit. This is

3047
01:48:49,667 --> 01:48:51,584
problematic. And you can look,

3048
01:48:51,584 --> 01:48:53,501
right now, at the bart

3049
01:48:53,501 --> 01:48:56,000
development in my city, the fact

3050
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:57,918
that there is no parking for the

3051
01:48:57,918 --> 01:48:59,999
commercial part is really

3052
01:48:59,999 --> 01:49:01,167
becoming difficult. It's a

3053
01:49:01,167 --> 01:49:03,567
beautiful commercial area there,

3054
01:49:04,959 --> 01:49:07,420
in addition to the housing, but

3055
01:49:07,420 --> 01:49:09,442
the businesses, like a

3056
01:49:09,999 --> 01:49:12,000
restaurant won't go in there

3057
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,999
because their customers can't

3058
01:49:13,999 --> 01:49:16,167
park. And no, you can't park at

3059
01:49:16,167 --> 01:49:18,000
bart unless you go into the bart

3060
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:19,959
station, getting parking thing

3061
01:49:19,959 --> 01:49:21,834
from there, so, these are the

3062
01:49:21,834 --> 01:49:23,999
kind of nuances that need to be

3063
01:49:23,999 --> 01:49:25,918
worked out. And we need your

3064
01:49:25,918 --> 01:49:28,626
help, mtc, in helping us build

3065
01:49:28,626 --> 01:49:31,334
more, and not, kind of,

3066
01:49:31,334 --> 01:49:32,751
strangleholding us, which some

3067
01:49:32,751 --> 01:49:34,999
of this appears to be. Planned

3068
01:49:34,999 --> 01:49:36,167
bay area is great. I think some

3069
01:49:36,167 --> 01:49:40,367
of it is already out of date.

3070
01:49:40,417 --> 01:49:42,709
there is a lot of housing laws

3071
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:44,918
that were just put into place

3072
01:49:44,918 --> 01:49:46,876
that are impacting our abilities

3073
01:49:46,876 --> 01:49:49,876
to build housing, to be

3074
01:49:50,667 --> 01:49:52,459
sustainable, all kinds of stuff.

3075
01:49:52,459 --> 01:49:54,459
we have upzoned. We will

3076
01:49:54,459 --> 01:49:56,250
continue to upzone. Don't think

3077
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:58,999
we're not; we are doing that.

3078
01:49:58,999 --> 01:50:01,709
but when you add in here rent

3079
01:50:01,709 --> 01:50:03,375
stabilization, just cause

3080
01:50:03,375 --> 01:50:05,375
evictions, tenant-right

3081
01:50:05,999 --> 01:50:07,542
councils. I believe the

3082
01:50:07,542 --> 01:50:09,420
legislature has already weighed

3083
01:50:09,420 --> 01:50:10,918
in on that. So it seems like

3084
01:50:10,918 --> 01:50:12,709
we're telling them, no, you

3085
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:14,209
didn't do it right, and now you

3086
01:50:14,209 --> 01:50:16,209
have got to do this. It was

3087
01:50:16,209 --> 01:50:17,999
pointed out by another speaker

3088
01:50:17,999 --> 01:50:19,876
that we don't have the ability

3089
01:50:19,876 --> 01:50:21,999
-- some of us smaller

3090
01:50:21,999 --> 01:50:23,167
jurisdictions -- to do that.

3091
01:50:23,167 --> 01:50:24,417
so, when you have your

3092
01:50:24,417 --> 01:50:26,000
affordable protection and

3093
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:27,751
neighborhood stabilization

3094
01:50:27,751 --> 01:50:28,959
portion in there, and you're

3095
01:50:28,959 --> 01:50:30,918
going to condition funding on

3096
01:50:30,918 --> 01:50:33,876
every single -- I represent 20

3097
01:50:33,876 --> 01:50:35,918
cities -- if we don't have that,

3098
01:50:35,918 --> 01:50:37,999
we're not eligible for the

3099
01:50:37,999 --> 01:50:39,292
entire electrification of

3100
01:50:39,292 --> 01:50:40,209
caltrain within our

3101
01:50:40,209 --> 01:50:42,999
jurisdiction? I mean, that is

3102
01:50:42,999 --> 01:50:44,999
-- that's not going to let us

3103
01:50:44,999 --> 01:50:46,501
achieve the goals we want. We

3104
01:50:46,501 --> 01:50:48,125
want to built. We want to make

3105
01:50:48,125 --> 01:50:50,292
all this happen. We need your

3106
01:50:50,292 --> 01:50:52,000
help. So I'm kind of looking

3107
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,600
for more policy or portions of

3108
01:50:58,420 --> 01:51:00,792
this that actually help us get

3109
01:51:00,792 --> 01:51:03,420
to building more and not

3110
01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:04,751
interfere with what's currently

3111
01:51:04,751 --> 01:51:06,459
happening here. So, you know,

3112
01:51:06,459 --> 01:51:09,459
if you had something in

3113
01:51:10,125 --> 01:51:11,999
thereabout high speed rail not

3114
01:51:11,999 --> 01:51:13,292
stealing the land which we have

3115
01:51:13,292 --> 01:51:15,692
already approved for 488 housing

3116
01:51:15,999 --> 01:51:17,834
units for street level parking,

3117
01:51:17,834 --> 01:51:19,999
I got no problem with that.

3118
01:51:19,999 --> 01:51:21,999
that's wonderful. Tell them.

3119
01:51:21,999 --> 01:51:25,420
that's impossible, and I can go

3120
01:51:25,420 --> 01:51:27,442
ahead with ten stories, 48488

3121
01:51:32,834 --> 01:51:34,417
housing units. We want to

3122
01:51:34,417 --> 01:51:36,584
build. So, please, I think you

3123
01:51:36,584 --> 01:51:38,209
need to bring in the local

3124
01:51:38,209 --> 01:51:39,918
jurisdictions. Some of us have

3125
01:51:39,918 --> 01:51:41,417
the experience to say this is

3126
01:51:41,417 --> 01:51:43,584
what works, this is what doesn't

3127
01:51:43,584 --> 01:51:45,501
work. Because let me tell you

3128
01:51:45,501 --> 01:51:47,667
right now, a person trying to

3129
01:51:47,667 --> 01:51:50,125
get a loan, a developer for a

3130
01:51:50,125 --> 01:51:53,125
commercial/housing I don't think

3131
01:51:53,876 --> 01:51:55,918
they can get the loan unless it

3132
01:51:55,918 --> 01:51:57,125
includes some parking and you're

3133
01:51:57,125 --> 01:52:00,125
saying, no. Nothing. We can

3134
01:52:01,751 --> 01:52:03,751
transition out. [indiscernible]

3135
01:52:04,125 --> 01:52:06,459
is great, they're building a big

3136
01:52:06,459 --> 01:52:07,999
parking structure, but with the

3137
01:52:07,999 --> 01:52:09,709
future of transforming that, so

3138
01:52:09,709 --> 01:52:10,999
we can make all the

3139
01:52:10,999 --> 01:52:12,584
transportation elements work,

3140
01:52:12,584 --> 01:52:13,999
those are the type of things

3141
01:52:13,999 --> 01:52:15,626
here that I would love to see.

3142
01:52:15,626 --> 01:52:16,999
and we want to get there. We

3143
01:52:16,999 --> 01:52:18,167
want to reduce the greenhouse

3144
01:52:18,167 --> 01:52:19,999
gas. We all have the same goal.

3145
01:52:19,999 --> 01:52:23,000
it's just kind of how the policy

3146
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,250
is currently written here. So,

3147
01:52:25,250 --> 01:52:27,999
I don't think we should be

3148
01:52:27,999 --> 01:52:29,209
contradicting the legislature.

3149
01:52:29,209 --> 01:52:30,667
I'm really -- I think there are

3150
01:52:30,667 --> 01:52:33,792
new ways that we can be bold and

3151
01:52:33,792 --> 01:52:34,999
make all of this happen.

3152
01:52:34,999 --> 01:52:36,876
because what works in a big

3153
01:52:36,876 --> 01:52:39,876
city, like mayor schaff's, or

3154
01:52:39,999 --> 01:52:41,626
san francisco, doesn't

3155
01:52:41,626 --> 01:52:44,626
necessarily work in our cities.

3156
01:52:44,999 --> 01:52:46,999
so, please let us be a part of

3157
01:52:46,999 --> 01:52:49,399
this process. And, really

3158
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:52,626
making it work in the future,

3159
01:52:52,626 --> 01:52:55,334
here, we really -- I mean, we

3160
01:52:55,334 --> 01:52:56,999
could use legislation that, if

3161
01:52:56,999 --> 01:52:59,830
we have an old building, we can

3162
01:52:59,830 --> 01:53:01,334
-- that was at one time housing,

3163
01:53:01,334 --> 01:53:03,167
but hasn't been for five years,

3164
01:53:03,167 --> 01:53:06,876
if we could count that in our

3165
01:53:06,876 --> 01:53:08,167
rhna numbers. We want to make

3166
01:53:08,167 --> 01:53:09,999
things work here, but they don't

3167
01:53:09,999 --> 01:53:11,999
allow us to do that. So, help

3168
01:53:11,999 --> 01:53:15,599
us. And we can work together.

3169
01:53:20,999 --> 01:53:22,751
I really want to thank

3170
01:53:22,751 --> 01:53:24,834
everybody. I suggest the tech

3171
01:53:24,834 --> 01:53:26,250
advisory committee be expanded

3172
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:28,334
to some of our local and smaller

3173
01:53:28,334 --> 01:53:29,417
jurisdictions because we don't

3174
01:53:29,417 --> 01:53:31,420
want to repeat the mistakes of

3175
01:53:31,420 --> 01:53:31,999
the past. Thank you, mr. Chair.

3176
01:53:31,999 --> 01:53:32,999
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3177
01:53:32,999 --> 01:53:35,399
chair: thank you, gina.

3178
01:53:38,250 --> 01:53:39,709
martha, how many speakers do we

3179
01:53:39,709 --> 01:53:40,542
have?

3180
01:53:40,542 --> 01:53:41,167
>>clerk of the board: right now

3181
01:53:41,167 --> 01:53:42,626
we have ten speakers and

3182
01:53:42,626 --> 01:53:43,918
counting. How much time would

3183
01:53:43,918 --> 01:53:44,417
you like to give people?

3184
01:53:44,417 --> 01:53:45,999
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3185
01:53:45,999 --> 01:53:47,334
chair: well, you know, I would

3186
01:53:47,334 --> 01:53:49,334
like to give people, like, one

3187
01:53:49,334 --> 01:53:51,209
minute, but they can go over a

3188
01:53:51,209 --> 01:53:54,334
little bit. But before we go to

3189
01:53:54,334 --> 01:53:56,250
the public comments -- staff did

3190
01:53:56,250 --> 01:53:57,959
you -- I know mayor schaff had a

3191
01:53:57,959 --> 01:53:59,375
question. There wasn't a lot of

3192
01:53:59,375 --> 01:54:01,775
questions and more statements.

3193
01:54:01,999 --> 01:54:03,999
matt, did you guys have anything

3194
01:54:03,999 --> 01:54:06,584
you want to respond to --

3195
01:54:06,584 --> 01:54:07,167
>>matt maloney: I'm happy to

3196
01:54:07,167 --> 01:54:09,209
give a quick sum up, maybe a

3197
01:54:09,209 --> 01:54:09,959
minute if that's helpful.

3198
01:54:09,959 --> 01:54:12,359
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3199
01:54:12,626 --> 01:54:14,626
chair: go ahead.

3200
01:54:14,667 --> 01:54:15,250
>>matt maloney: there was a

3201
01:54:15,250 --> 01:54:16,999
question or comment about staff

3202
01:54:16,999 --> 01:54:19,209
doing an assessment of what's

3203
01:54:19,209 --> 01:54:21,250
going on in the transit-rich

3204
01:54:21,250 --> 01:54:22,584
areas and I think that's right

3205
01:54:22,584 --> 01:54:24,542
on the mark and we are planning

3206
01:54:24,542 --> 01:54:26,417
to dig into that more. We have

3207
01:54:26,417 --> 01:54:28,292
got a lot of information out

3208
01:54:28,292 --> 01:54:30,334
there in the existing pdas plans

3209
01:54:30,334 --> 01:54:32,501
we can draw from but woe have to

3210
01:54:32,501 --> 01:54:34,125
do more research on that, that

3211
01:54:34,125 --> 01:54:35,626
is certainly part of our work

3212
01:54:35,626 --> 01:54:37,167
plan. I think on the subject of

3213
01:54:37,167 --> 01:54:38,125
different communities and

3214
01:54:38,125 --> 01:54:40,501
smaller communities around the

3215
01:54:40,501 --> 01:54:42,167
area, and I think it was our

3216
01:54:42,167 --> 01:54:44,420
intent with the different tiers

3217
01:54:44,420 --> 01:54:45,334
that we showed in the

3218
01:54:45,334 --> 01:54:46,999
presentation, tier one, tier

3219
01:54:46,999 --> 01:54:49,417
two, tier three, you know, kind

3220
01:54:49,417 --> 01:54:51,420
of looking at commuter rail

3221
01:54:51,420 --> 01:54:53,417
systems like smart, you know,

3222
01:54:53,417 --> 01:54:55,417
different from heavy rail

3223
01:54:55,417 --> 01:54:57,417
systems like bart and caltrain.

3224
01:54:57,417 --> 01:54:58,792
I think that's all in the mix

3225
01:54:58,792 --> 01:55:00,000
and that's something we can

3226
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,959
continue to play with as we hear

3227
01:55:01,959 --> 01:55:04,999
more comments from all of you.

3228
01:55:04,999 --> 01:55:07,399
I think commissioner josefowitz

3229
01:55:07,459 --> 01:55:09,792
made a point about getting more

3230
01:55:09,792 --> 01:55:11,292
planning money tied to this

3231
01:55:11,292 --> 01:55:12,751
effort. And I think we also

3232
01:55:12,751 --> 01:55:13,999
agree with that, as well. I

3233
01:55:13,999 --> 01:55:15,999
think obag three is an

3234
01:55:15,999 --> 01:55:17,125
opportunity for that. Also

3235
01:55:17,125 --> 01:55:19,999
there is a new version of reap.

3236
01:55:19,999 --> 01:55:23,599
reap 2.0, that I think you have

3237
01:55:24,125 --> 01:55:26,167
all heard about that might be

3238
01:55:26,167 --> 01:55:28,250
opportunity to augment the pda

3239
01:55:28,250 --> 01:55:29,751
planning funds that we have had

3240
01:55:29,751 --> 01:55:32,542
out there in the past and to

3241
01:55:32,542 --> 01:55:34,417
help more jurisdictions. I

3242
01:55:34,417 --> 01:55:36,584
think we totally agree. This is

3243
01:55:36,584 --> 01:55:39,459
focused on tras, right, really,

3244
01:55:39,459 --> 01:55:41,000
those transit-rich areas, as

3245
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,792
well as those transit-rich pdas,

3246
01:55:43,792 --> 01:55:45,250
and there was a question about

3247
01:55:45,250 --> 01:55:46,918
making sure we incentivize

3248
01:55:46,918 --> 01:55:48,375
transit improvements and we

3249
01:55:48,375 --> 01:55:49,999
definitely want to do that. The

3250
01:55:49,999 --> 01:55:51,999
other part of this is we want to

3251
01:55:51,999 --> 01:55:53,999
make sure any improvements that

3252
01:55:53,999 --> 01:55:56,667
we make are effective is high

3253
01:55:56,667 --> 01:55:58,125
ridership and lots of activity.

3254
01:55:58,125 --> 01:55:59,876
I think that's in the mix, as

3255
01:55:59,876 --> 01:56:01,999
well. In terms of mayor

3256
01:56:01,999 --> 01:56:03,830
schaff's question about

3257
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:04,334
affordable housing impact fees

3258
01:56:04,334 --> 01:56:06,626
with in lieu options, certainly

3259
01:56:06,626 --> 01:56:07,999
something we can investigate is

3260
01:56:07,999 --> 01:56:09,709
perhaps include it as part of

3261
01:56:09,709 --> 01:56:12,375
the menu of options. I think

3262
01:56:12,375 --> 01:56:15,975
that's mostly the sum-up of kind

3263
01:56:16,292 --> 01:56:17,999
of what I heard.

3264
01:56:17,999 --> 01:56:18,542
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3265
01:56:18,542 --> 01:56:19,375
chair: okay. Good. Thank you.

3266
01:56:19,375 --> 01:56:21,375
good wrap-up.

3267
01:56:21,999 --> 01:56:23,375
martha, if we have ten speakers

3268
01:56:23,375 --> 01:56:23,999
--

3269
01:56:23,999 --> 01:56:24,751
>>clerk of the board: it's up

3270
01:56:24,751 --> 01:56:24,999
to 13 now.

3271
01:56:24,999 --> 01:56:25,751
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3272
01:56:25,751 --> 01:56:27,792
chair: all right. Give a

3273
01:56:27,792 --> 01:56:28,999
minute and a half. What I would

3274
01:56:28,999 --> 01:56:31,000
like to ask the speakers, if you

3275
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,600
could, be as clear and succinct

3276
01:56:34,999 --> 01:56:36,792
as you can. If there are areas

3277
01:56:36,792 --> 01:56:38,709
that you think more study say

3278
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:39,834
that, if you think there are

3279
01:56:39,834 --> 01:56:41,417
areas that shouldn't be included

3280
01:56:41,417 --> 01:56:43,830
say that. But just try to get

3281
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:44,918
to your point so we can get

3282
01:56:44,918 --> 01:56:46,125
through this as quickly as we

3283
01:56:46,125 --> 01:56:47,375
can.

3284
01:56:47,375 --> 01:56:49,830
with that, martha, give the

3285
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:52,683
speakers a minute and a half.

3286
01:56:56,959 --> 01:56:59,250
go ahead and start the public

3287
01:56:59,250 --> 01:57:00,292
comment.

3288
01:57:00,292 --> 01:57:00,999
>>clerk of the board: we

3289
01:57:00,999 --> 01:57:02,876
received correspondence by the

3290
01:57:02,876 --> 01:57:03,501
deadline, and that from by tim

3291
01:57:03,501 --> 01:57:06,501
sebritini. It was posted online

3292
01:57:10,830 --> 01:57:13,683
and that was distributed to and

3293
01:57:15,999 --> 01:57:17,709
was posted online and

3294
01:57:17,709 --> 01:57:18,334
distributed to committee

3295
01:57:18,334 --> 01:57:20,734
members. First speaker is

3296
01:57:20,999 --> 01:57:22,999
jonathon kass.

3297
01:57:23,918 --> 01:57:26,125
>>jonothon kass: I am the

3298
01:57:26,125 --> 01:57:28,525
transportation policy manager at

3299
01:57:28,542 --> 01:57:30,501
spur and we support the

3300
01:57:30,501 --> 01:57:32,501
direction and unanimously

3301
01:57:33,667 --> 01:57:35,830
approve planned bay area for

3302
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:36,876
equitable sustainable and

3303
01:57:36,876 --> 01:57:38,420
livable communities around

3304
01:57:38,420 --> 01:57:39,999
transit as a member of the

3305
01:57:39,999 --> 01:57:42,399
technical advisory committee for

3306
01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:44,542
this community alongside many

3307
01:57:44,542 --> 01:57:46,000
local jurisdictions both small

3308
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:47,834
and large spur has been

3309
01:57:47,834 --> 01:57:49,542
encouraged by mtc staff

3310
01:57:49,542 --> 01:57:51,375
commitment to rhna and planned

3311
01:57:51,375 --> 01:57:52,501
bay area regional growth targets

3312
01:57:52,501 --> 01:57:53,999
as a reminder planned bay area

3313
01:57:53,999 --> 01:57:56,375
just barely met the greenhouse

3314
01:57:56,375 --> 01:57:57,626
gas emissions reduction targets

3315
01:57:57,626 --> 01:57:59,876
set by the state. Target that

3316
01:57:59,876 --> 01:58:02,999
is sure to be more even

3317
01:58:02,999 --> 01:58:05,375
ambitious in the next round. As

3318
01:58:05,375 --> 01:58:08,375
discussed the timing of these

3319
01:58:10,999 --> 01:58:12,709
requirements deserve close

3320
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:14,999
attention. Waiting to quickly

3321
01:58:14,999 --> 01:58:17,250
will cause us to fall behind on

3322
01:58:17,250 --> 01:58:18,999
housing and jobs goals. At the

3323
01:58:18,999 --> 01:58:21,459
same time growth targets need to

3324
01:58:21,459 --> 01:58:23,999
be realistic and it takes time

3325
01:58:23,999 --> 01:58:25,626
to lay the groundwork for

3326
01:58:25,626 --> 01:58:27,501
growth. We believe the policy

3327
01:58:27,501 --> 01:58:30,000
is off to a great start and

3328
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,375
encourage to you focus on

3329
01:58:31,375 --> 01:58:32,292
detailed changes that are

3330
01:58:32,292 --> 01:58:34,692
necessary to ensure policy

3331
01:58:35,792 --> 01:58:36,000
delivery.

3332
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:36,792
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3333
01:58:36,792 --> 01:58:37,626
chair: thank you. Next

3334
01:58:37,626 --> 01:58:39,626
speaker. Martha?

3335
01:58:44,751 --> 01:58:45,501
>>clerk of the board: on it.

3336
01:58:45,501 --> 01:58:47,901
next up is anoeil.

3337
01:58:59,584 --> 01:59:00,999
>>speaker: hi I'm a member of

3338
01:59:00,999 --> 01:59:02,834
common ground california focused

3339
01:59:02,834 --> 01:59:05,959
on land use housing transit and

3340
01:59:05,959 --> 01:59:08,375
financing of public services and

3341
01:59:08,375 --> 01:59:09,999
infrastructure through land

3342
01:59:09,999 --> 01:59:12,999
value taxes capture tasteful to

3343
01:59:16,417 --> 01:59:19,417
see mtc putting together policy

3344
01:59:19,999 --> 01:59:22,167
framework we believe will

3345
01:59:22,167 --> 01:59:24,167
incorporate public land

3346
01:59:24,334 --> 01:59:26,734
acquisition and value capture

3347
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,400
taxation such policies allow

3348
01:59:30,918 --> 01:59:33,318
public municipalities to build

3349
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,000
infrastructure spending growing

3350
01:59:38,667 --> 01:59:40,834
economy and increased demand had

3351
01:59:40,834 --> 01:59:43,501
to these areas and public

3352
01:59:43,501 --> 01:59:45,420
acquisition of land will allow

3353
01:59:45,420 --> 01:59:47,830
governments to receive --

3354
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:48,959
[indiscernible] without a strong

3355
01:59:48,959 --> 01:59:51,375
toc policy there is no hope of

3356
01:59:51,375 --> 01:59:53,334
meeting equity and climate

3357
01:59:53,334 --> 01:59:56,334
goals. As someone going to

3358
01:59:57,751 --> 01:59:59,999
medical school I understand how

3359
01:59:59,999 --> 02:00:01,459
critical housing is to a

3360
02:00:01,459 --> 02:00:03,859
person's physical and mental

3361
02:00:04,918 --> 02:00:06,999
well-being and how access to

3362
02:00:06,999 --> 02:00:08,542
high-resource areas is critical

3363
02:00:08,542 --> 02:00:11,542
to a growing economy. It's

3364
02:00:11,626 --> 02:00:13,999
critical that equity investments

3365
02:00:13,999 --> 02:00:16,999
not only recapture value, but

3366
02:00:18,999 --> 02:00:20,999
recapture stronger communities.

3367
02:00:22,292 --> 02:00:24,692
please add public land

3368
02:00:25,125 --> 02:00:27,525
acquisition and taxation value

3369
02:00:29,167 --> 02:00:31,999
recapture to the toc policy.

3370
02:00:31,999 --> 02:00:32,667
>>clerk of the board: next up

3371
02:00:32,667 --> 02:00:36,267
is justine marcus and then rich

3372
02:00:37,876 --> 02:00:38,501
hedges.

3373
02:00:38,501 --> 02:00:40,000
>>speaker: good afternoon my

3374
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,000
name is justine marcus policy

3375
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,626
director with enterprise

3376
02:00:43,626 --> 02:00:45,830
community partners we're excited

3377
02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:47,209
to see the draft framework

3378
02:00:47,209 --> 02:00:48,626
presented today and want to

3379
02:00:48,626 --> 02:00:50,751
thank staff for their work

3380
02:00:50,751 --> 02:00:51,876
putting it together and having

3381
02:00:51,876 --> 02:00:54,000
the robust engagement with the

3382
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:55,420
technical advisory committee

3383
02:00:55,420 --> 02:00:57,000
which we serve o we strongly

3384
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:58,459
support moving forward with a

3385
02:00:58,459 --> 02:01:01,830
policy that will set us on the

3386
02:01:01,830 --> 02:01:02,459
course to implement the goals of

3387
02:01:02,459 --> 02:01:03,667
planned bay area balancing as

3388
02:01:03,667 --> 02:01:05,751
many of you have mentioned the

3389
02:01:05,751 --> 02:01:07,417
urgency of our needs and really

3390
02:01:07,417 --> 02:01:09,000
being realistic about

3391
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:11,626
implementation. I also want to

3392
02:01:11,626 --> 02:01:13,420
echo the point that mayor

3393
02:01:13,420 --> 02:01:14,542
arreguin brought up which is

3394
02:01:14,542 --> 02:01:17,542
that policy has opportunity to

3395
02:01:17,999 --> 02:01:19,709
support and reward local

3396
02:01:19,709 --> 02:01:20,709
jurisdictions to deliver on

3397
02:01:20,709 --> 02:01:22,334
their rhna goals. I want to

3398
02:01:22,334 --> 02:01:23,959
highlight two aspects of the

3399
02:01:23,959 --> 02:01:25,999
policy for consideration as it

3400
02:01:25,999 --> 02:01:27,999
is further refined. The first

3401
02:01:27,999 --> 02:01:30,125
is really going deep on the

3402
02:01:30,125 --> 02:01:32,525
three ps, the production,

3403
02:01:33,501 --> 02:01:34,999
preservation, and protections

3404
02:01:34,999 --> 02:01:36,250
aspects of the policy with a

3405
02:01:36,250 --> 02:01:38,650
focus on anti-displacement both

3406
02:01:38,999 --> 02:01:41,999
for residents and local small

3407
02:01:42,209 --> 02:01:43,792
businesses. And second is to

3408
02:01:43,792 --> 02:01:45,751
really remain focused on our

3409
02:01:45,751 --> 02:01:47,125
commitments to affirmatively

3410
02:01:47,125 --> 02:01:49,667
furthering fair housing as we go

3411
02:01:49,667 --> 02:01:51,999
about designing the density

3412
02:01:51,999 --> 02:01:52,999
thresholds. Finally we know

3413
02:01:52,999 --> 02:01:55,167
that this policy will need

3414
02:01:55,167 --> 02:01:56,417
complementary funding and our

3415
02:01:56,417 --> 02:01:57,667
organization and bay area

3416
02:01:57,667 --> 02:01:59,830
housing advocates are committed

3417
02:01:59,830 --> 02:02:00,501
to continuing working with you

3418
02:02:00,501 --> 02:02:02,209
all through bahfa and other

3419
02:02:02,209 --> 02:02:03,667
others to secure the necessary

3420
02:02:03,667 --> 02:02:04,542
funds. Thank you very much for

3421
02:02:04,542 --> 02:02:05,751
your time.

3422
02:02:05,751 --> 02:02:06,334
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3423
02:02:06,334 --> 02:02:08,334
chair: thank you.

3424
02:02:09,834 --> 02:02:10,375
>>clerk of the board: rich

3425
02:02:10,375 --> 02:02:11,709
hedges followed by aaron

3426
02:02:11,709 --> 02:02:14,709
eckhouse. Go ahead and unmute

3427
02:02:15,420 --> 02:02:16,417
yourself.

3428
02:02:16,417 --> 02:02:17,417
>>speaker: thank you. I wanted

3429
02:02:17,417 --> 02:02:19,292
to comment just briefly about

3430
02:02:19,292 --> 02:02:21,125
transit oriented communities. I

3431
02:02:21,125 --> 02:02:23,709
grew up in one as a child.

3432
02:02:23,709 --> 02:02:25,417
access to a streetcar half a

3433
02:02:25,417 --> 02:02:27,125
block away. All the possible

3434
02:02:27,125 --> 02:02:28,709
services we needed within

3435
02:02:28,709 --> 02:02:29,999
walking distance and I bring

3436
02:02:29,999 --> 02:02:31,999
this up because it put me in the

3437
02:02:31,999 --> 02:02:33,999
fight to develop it. Ods,

3438
02:02:33,999 --> 02:02:35,459
because I had lived in something

3439
02:02:35,459 --> 02:02:37,999
like a tod. I like our change

3440
02:02:37,999 --> 02:02:40,250
in policy toward transit

3441
02:02:40,250 --> 02:02:41,876
oriented communities. I think

3442
02:02:41,876 --> 02:02:43,459
it will fulfill what we have

3443
02:02:43,459 --> 02:02:45,209
been trying to do.

3444
02:02:45,209 --> 02:02:46,999
but what I want to recommend is,

3445
02:02:46,999 --> 02:02:48,542
if you really want to cut down

3446
02:02:48,542 --> 02:02:51,250
on trips, we have to have these

3447
02:02:51,250 --> 02:02:52,999
services and we have to focus on

3448
02:02:52,999 --> 02:02:54,959
that. Because only a small part

3449
02:02:54,959 --> 02:02:56,834
of getting people out of their

3450
02:02:56,834 --> 02:02:59,542
cars is trips to work and back.

3451
02:02:59,542 --> 02:03:02,125
so, please, look carefully at

3452
02:03:02,125 --> 02:03:03,709
this. I also have a question I

3453
02:03:03,709 --> 02:03:05,999
would like a response to. I

3454
02:03:05,999 --> 02:03:07,999
think that sb10 may help,

3455
02:03:07,999 --> 02:03:09,250
especially with the communities

3456
02:03:09,250 --> 02:03:12,250
where we have 35 to 50% density

3457
02:03:12,834 --> 02:03:15,751
of housing. And maybe not more

3458
02:03:15,751 --> 02:03:17,459
than that. But I would like to

3459
02:03:17,459 --> 02:03:19,167
know how that may affect our

3460
02:03:19,167 --> 02:03:22,167
goals for communities and tocs.

3461
02:03:23,334 --> 02:03:25,459
so, one thing I would like to

3462
02:03:25,459 --> 02:03:27,709
say I think we do have to have

3463
02:03:27,709 --> 02:03:29,751
diverse looks at different

3464
02:03:29,751 --> 02:03:31,000
communities, the rural

3465
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,501
communities do not have the same

3466
02:03:33,501 --> 02:03:36,830
aspects as our more urbanized

3467
02:03:36,830 --> 02:03:37,999
communities and we need to treat

3468
02:03:37,999 --> 02:03:40,375
it as such. And just one last

3469
02:03:40,375 --> 02:03:42,542
comment, really a carrot is best

3470
02:03:42,542 --> 02:03:44,584
used if it's a stick painted

3471
02:03:44,584 --> 02:03:46,584
orange. Thank you.

3472
02:03:47,125 --> 02:03:47,959
>>clerk of the board: thank

3473
02:03:47,959 --> 02:03:48,999
you, rich.

3474
02:03:48,999 --> 02:03:51,709
next up is aaron eckhouse

3475
02:03:51,709 --> 02:03:54,109
followed by derrick sagehorn.

3476
02:03:54,959 --> 02:03:56,125
>>speaker: hello. Thank you.

3477
02:03:56,125 --> 02:03:58,792
my name is aaron eckhouse I'm

3478
02:03:58,792 --> 02:04:00,999
the regional policy manager with

3479
02:04:00,999 --> 02:04:03,830
california yimby, yes in my

3480
02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:06,830
backyard. We are big supporters

3481
02:04:06,125 --> 02:04:07,999
of transit oriented development

3482
02:04:07,999 --> 02:04:09,709
and we appreciate staff is

3483
02:04:09,709 --> 02:04:11,125
moving this forward as well as

3484
02:04:11,125 --> 02:04:12,542
opportunity we have had to

3485
02:04:12,542 --> 02:04:13,959
engage with them on policy

3486
02:04:13,959 --> 02:04:15,830
development. Over the years has

3487
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:17,584
been a growing recognition for a

3488
02:04:17,584 --> 02:04:18,834
coordinated regional approach on

3489
02:04:18,834 --> 02:04:20,999
housing as well as way in which

3490
02:04:20,999 --> 02:04:22,918
housing policy lands use policy

3491
02:04:22,918 --> 02:04:24,292
and transportation policy are

3492
02:04:24,292 --> 02:04:27,292
all deeply connected which we

3493
02:04:27,584 --> 02:04:29,959
see in planned bay area 2050.

3494
02:04:29,959 --> 02:04:31,959
proposed policy framework

3495
02:04:32,830 --> 02:04:33,999
reflect those in an exciting

3496
02:04:33,999 --> 02:04:35,999
way. Housing crisis in the bay

3497
02:04:35,999 --> 02:04:38,250
area is too big for any city to

3498
02:04:38,250 --> 02:04:41,250
solve alone the transit oriented

3499
02:04:41,334 --> 02:04:42,959
communities is framework

3500
02:04:42,959 --> 02:04:44,250
addressing our housing crisis in

3501
02:04:44,250 --> 02:04:47,250
a necessary scale in a

3502
02:04:47,999 --> 02:04:49,501
comprehensive and equitable way

3503
02:04:49,501 --> 02:04:52,501
it's appropriate wu we're making

3504
02:04:52,626 --> 02:04:53,918
significant regional investment

3505
02:04:53,918 --> 02:04:54,918
in transportation and policies

3506
02:04:54,918 --> 02:04:58,518
in place to ensure success and

3507
02:04:58,999 --> 02:05:00,420
coordination with regional

3508
02:05:00,420 --> 02:05:02,876
policy goals. We cannot afford

3509
02:05:02,876 --> 02:05:05,830
to fail on our housing goals as

3510
02:05:05,830 --> 02:05:07,542
a region the stakes are too

3511
02:05:07,542 --> 02:05:09,999
high. I am encouraged by what

3512
02:05:09,999 --> 02:05:11,999
staff put forward and I hope mtc

3513
02:05:11,999 --> 02:05:13,999
will move forward towards a

3514
02:05:13,999 --> 02:05:15,999
robust transit communities

3515
02:05:17,167 --> 02:05:19,999
program that will ensure we meet

3516
02:05:19,999 --> 02:05:21,834
our goals in the region. Thank

3517
02:05:21,834 --> 02:05:23,209
you.

3518
02:05:23,209 --> 02:05:24,000
>>clerk of the board: derrick

3519
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,000
followed by justin.

3520
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:27,876
>>speaker: this is derrick

3521
02:05:27,876 --> 02:05:29,417
sagehorn for east bay for

3522
02:05:29,417 --> 02:05:31,420
everyone. I'm calling in

3523
02:05:31,420 --> 02:05:32,959
support of the draft toc policy

3524
02:05:32,959 --> 02:05:34,459
from staff. I think it's really

3525
02:05:34,459 --> 02:05:36,999
important that we align our

3526
02:05:36,999 --> 02:05:39,250
planned bay area goals with our

3527
02:05:39,250 --> 02:05:41,999
-- the funding. You know? Mtc

3528
02:05:41,999 --> 02:05:44,420
having the power of the purse in

3529
02:05:44,420 --> 02:05:46,420
terms of determining

3530
02:05:47,292 --> 02:05:48,667
discretionary grants it's

3531
02:05:48,667 --> 02:05:50,667
important we get our

3532
02:05:50,667 --> 02:05:52,999
transportation planning lined up

3533
02:05:52,999 --> 02:05:55,830
I appreciate the fact of

3534
02:05:55,830 --> 02:05:56,709
distinguishing between different

3535
02:05:56,709 --> 02:05:58,420
levels of intensive of

3536
02:05:58,420 --> 02:05:59,501
transportation and investment

3537
02:05:59,501 --> 02:06:01,901
including parking policy. As

3538
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,834
well as station access that's

3539
02:06:03,834 --> 02:06:05,999
going to be critical. I'll echo

3540
02:06:05,999 --> 02:06:07,125
comments I think it's necessary

3541
02:06:07,125 --> 02:06:10,417
to get out ahead of speculators

3542
02:06:10,417 --> 02:06:11,751
especially with the new transit

3543
02:06:11,751 --> 02:06:13,420
stations I would encourage staff

3544
02:06:13,420 --> 02:06:15,751
to look at some type of

3545
02:06:15,751 --> 02:06:17,792
preservation and public housing

3546
02:06:17,792 --> 02:06:19,999
with public land acquisition is

3547
02:06:19,999 --> 02:06:20,999
making sure tools are available

3548
02:06:20,999 --> 02:06:23,420
for capturing uplift from

3549
02:06:23,420 --> 02:06:24,918
property owners nearby in terms

3550
02:06:24,918 --> 02:06:26,751
of funding both affordability

3551
02:06:26,751 --> 02:06:28,542
and transportation improvements

3552
02:06:28,542 --> 02:06:30,501
and that's not simply through

3553
02:06:30,501 --> 02:06:32,125
value capture for planning but

3554
02:06:32,125 --> 02:06:33,751
also making sure that property

3555
02:06:33,751 --> 02:06:35,542
owners who are simply

3556
02:06:35,542 --> 02:06:36,999
speculating and not developing

3557
02:06:36,999 --> 02:06:39,420
their properties also pay their

3558
02:06:39,420 --> 02:06:42,420
fair share for these public

3559
02:06:42,830 --> 02:06:43,876
critical hours. Thank you.

3560
02:06:43,876 --> 02:06:44,459
>>clerk of the board: thank

3561
02:06:44,459 --> 02:06:46,859
you, derrick. Justin followed

3562
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:49,400
by lisa. Go ahead.

3563
02:06:54,626 --> 02:06:55,999
>>speaker: good afternoon my

3564
02:06:55,999 --> 02:06:58,999
name is justin wang advocacy

3565
02:07:00,584 --> 02:07:02,984
manager at green compliance

3566
02:07:03,626 --> 02:07:04,959
environmental non-profit

3567
02:07:04,959 --> 02:07:06,999
encouraging open space as well

3568
02:07:06,999 --> 02:07:09,420
as direct involvement with

3569
02:07:09,420 --> 02:07:11,709
growth in the community. A

3570
02:07:11,709 --> 02:07:14,709
strong toc climate smart policy

3571
02:07:16,417 --> 02:07:17,751
is necessary in the bay area to

3572
02:07:17,751 --> 02:07:19,999
meet our housing goals reduce

3573
02:07:19,999 --> 02:07:20,999
greenhouse gas emissions and

3574
02:07:20,999 --> 02:07:22,667
make sure local residents are

3575
02:07:22,667 --> 02:07:24,542
able to grow and thrive in their

3576
02:07:24,542 --> 02:07:26,209
own communities as housing costs

3577
02:07:26,209 --> 02:07:28,375
rise every single bay area

3578
02:07:28,375 --> 02:07:30,209
region must play their part to

3579
02:07:30,209 --> 02:07:31,501
increase housing stock

3580
02:07:31,501 --> 02:07:32,501
particularly affordable housing

3581
02:07:32,501 --> 02:07:34,999
to make sure the workforce can

3582
02:07:34,999 --> 02:07:36,751
afford to live close to jobs

3583
02:07:36,751 --> 02:07:38,375
schools and services this policy

3584
02:07:38,375 --> 02:07:39,834
is a great step if that

3585
02:07:39,834 --> 02:07:41,209
direction especially if local

3586
02:07:41,209 --> 02:07:42,250
jurisdictions are looking to

3587
02:07:42,250 --> 02:07:44,751
update housing elements now to

3588
02:07:44,751 --> 02:07:46,626
achieve goals ideally with an

3589
02:07:46,626 --> 02:07:48,999
eye towards transit orientation.

3590
02:07:48,999 --> 02:07:51,420
as a region we have always led

3591
02:07:51,420 --> 02:07:53,709
the way, we passed planned bay

3592
02:07:53,709 --> 02:07:56,751
area and need a toc policy that

3593
02:07:56,751 --> 02:07:58,125
works to achieve outcomes

3594
02:07:58,125 --> 02:08:00,459
outlined in that plan creating

3595
02:08:00,459 --> 02:08:03,459
the 30 year window the transit

3596
02:08:03,792 --> 02:08:06,417
orient the communities is long.

3597
02:08:06,417 --> 02:08:07,999
mtc should incentivize

3598
02:08:07,999 --> 02:08:09,751
development sooner rather than

3599
02:08:09,751 --> 02:08:11,000
later especially with funding I

3600
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:12,542
urge to you continue moving in

3601
02:08:12,542 --> 02:08:13,626
the right direction with your

3602
02:08:13,626 --> 02:08:15,999
full support of the toc policy

3603
02:08:15,999 --> 02:08:17,420
before you today. Thank you

3604
02:08:17,420 --> 02:08:18,459
very much for your time.

3605
02:08:18,459 --> 02:08:19,420
>>clerk of the board: thank

3606
02:08:19,420 --> 02:08:20,999
you. Lisa followed by robert

3607
02:08:20,999 --> 02:08:23,399
alan or bob alan.

3608
02:08:24,999 --> 02:08:27,959
lisa go ahead and unmute.

3609
02:08:27,959 --> 02:08:28,999
>>speaker: good afternoon my

3610
02:08:28,999 --> 02:08:31,399
name is lisa borderbrugen

3611
02:08:35,999 --> 02:08:37,999
representing building industry

3612
02:08:39,959 --> 02:08:41,375
association of bay area and I

3613
02:08:41,375 --> 02:08:44,375
appreciate allowing me to serve

3614
02:08:44,751 --> 02:08:45,999
on the technical advisory

3615
02:08:45,999 --> 02:08:47,000
committee through this process

3616
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:48,999
and working with your talented

3617
02:08:48,999 --> 02:08:51,000
staff. It's a little bit like

3618
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,792
many of you getting a grasp on

3619
02:08:53,792 --> 02:08:56,000
the full stove of what impacts

3620
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,830
would be if and whenever this

3621
02:08:58,830 --> 02:09:00,709
policy is adopted in whatever

3622
02:09:00,709 --> 02:09:02,999
form it comes out in we

3623
02:09:02,999 --> 02:09:04,830
appreciate the comments by jim

3624
02:09:04,830 --> 02:09:06,959
and therese about taking a

3625
02:09:06,959 --> 02:09:08,999
phased approach and analytical

3626
02:09:08,999 --> 02:09:10,709
approach our members are on the

3627
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:11,999
frontline of delivering the

3628
02:09:11,999 --> 02:09:13,501
housing that many of you are

3629
02:09:13,501 --> 02:09:15,250
planning to build and we can

3630
02:09:15,250 --> 02:09:16,918
speak from experience that bay

3631
02:09:16,918 --> 02:09:18,417
area cities are like snow

3632
02:09:18,417 --> 02:09:21,209
flakes, every single one of them

3633
02:09:21,209 --> 02:09:22,959
is different and trying to work

3634
02:09:22,959 --> 02:09:24,792
within each community and meet

3635
02:09:24,792 --> 02:09:26,584
the needs of each community that

3636
02:09:26,584 --> 02:09:29,584
they're looking for in addition

3637
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:33,375
regionally is a difficult

3638
02:09:33,375 --> 02:09:35,000
process to navigate. We're

3639
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,167
continuing to work with mtc and

3640
02:09:37,167 --> 02:09:40,830
the toc and helping ensure that

3641
02:09:40,830 --> 02:09:42,830
well-meaning policies don't

3642
02:09:42,501 --> 02:09:43,999
increase the cost of housing or

3643
02:09:43,999 --> 02:09:46,830
make it more costly to build

3644
02:09:46,830 --> 02:09:47,876
housing but actually get us to

3645
02:09:47,876 --> 02:09:49,918
where we want to be in terms of

3646
02:09:49,918 --> 02:09:52,420
increasing the densities around

3647
02:09:52,420 --> 02:09:54,375
transit. Thank you for the

3648
02:09:54,375 --> 02:09:56,292
opportunity to speak this

3649
02:09:56,292 --> 02:09:57,420
afternoon.

3650
02:09:57,420 --> 02:09:57,876
>>clerk of the board: thank

3651
02:09:57,876 --> 02:09:58,876
you.

3652
02:09:58,876 --> 02:10:02,476
robert alan followed by bob bin.

3653
02:10:02,709 --> 02:10:05,709
go ahead and unmute yourself.

3654
02:10:09,125 --> 02:10:11,125
robert alan.

3655
02:10:11,334 --> 02:10:14,334
>>speaker: bob alan from urban

3656
02:10:15,876 --> 02:10:17,459
habitat. I want to comment and

3657
02:10:17,459 --> 02:10:21,590
say this is an important update.

3658
02:10:24,999 --> 02:10:27,999
sorry. I'm not sure what

3659
02:10:28,250 --> 02:10:28,834
happened there.

3660
02:10:28,834 --> 02:10:29,375
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3661
02:10:29,375 --> 02:10:31,292
chair: go ahead robert.

3662
02:10:31,292 --> 02:10:32,292
>>speaker: sorry about that.

3663
02:10:32,292 --> 02:10:34,334
just to emphasize, I think the

3664
02:10:34,334 --> 02:10:36,000
tenant protection and suite of

3665
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,000
community stabilization policies

3666
02:10:38,709 --> 02:10:42,309
far from being an impediment to

3667
02:10:43,626 --> 02:10:45,250
housing production and market

3668
02:10:45,250 --> 02:10:47,830
rate housing production are

3669
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:50,830
necessary to meet greenhouse gas

3670
02:10:50,459 --> 02:10:51,542
reduction goals of planned bay

3671
02:10:51,542 --> 02:10:53,999
area. We have got to stabilize

3672
02:10:53,999 --> 02:10:55,999
people to build housing working

3673
02:10:55,999 --> 02:10:57,999
to ensure and preserve as much

3674
02:10:57,999 --> 02:11:00,459
housing as possible and robust

3675
02:11:00,459 --> 02:11:01,709
efforts starting with the state

3676
02:11:01,709 --> 02:11:02,999
on social housing I don't think

3677
02:11:02,999 --> 02:11:05,399
the market whether it's

3678
02:11:05,667 --> 02:11:07,334
unconstrained or not is going to

3679
02:11:07,334 --> 02:11:10,292
provide housing for the vast

3680
02:11:10,292 --> 02:11:11,417
majority of the bay area

3681
02:11:11,417 --> 02:11:13,417
residents but community

3682
02:11:13,584 --> 02:11:14,501
stabilization policies and

3683
02:11:14,501 --> 02:11:16,420
keeping as many people in place

3684
02:11:16,420 --> 02:11:19,209
is a critical starting point to

3685
02:11:19,209 --> 02:11:20,999
reliable transit riders who have

3686
02:11:20,999 --> 02:11:22,501
stayed on the system throughout

3687
02:11:22,501 --> 02:11:24,209
the pandemic I want to make that

3688
02:11:24,209 --> 02:11:26,501
point and look heard to engaging

3689
02:11:26,501 --> 02:11:28,709
in the update of the policy as

3690
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:30,584
we go forward. Thank you.

3691
02:11:30,584 --> 02:11:31,167
>>clerk of the board: thank

3692
02:11:31,167 --> 02:11:34,767
you. Bob vinn followed by laura

3693
02:11:38,999 --> 02:11:40,501
foote.

3694
02:11:40,501 --> 02:11:42,901
>>speaker: I'm bob city

3695
02:11:42,999 --> 02:11:44,999
engineer for the city of

3696
02:11:44,999 --> 02:11:47,375
livermore since valuing stations

3697
02:11:47,375 --> 02:11:49,626
of at the top of the list for

3698
02:11:49,626 --> 02:11:50,999
it. Oc implementation I want to

3699
02:11:50,999 --> 02:11:52,999
talk about the isabel plan

3700
02:11:52,999 --> 02:11:54,999
adopted a little over a year ago

3701
02:11:54,999 --> 02:11:57,417
in november 2020, it was a

3702
02:11:57,417 --> 02:11:59,250
multi-year effort, cost a lot of

3703
02:11:59,250 --> 02:12:01,626
money, had lots of stakeholder

3704
02:12:01,626 --> 02:12:02,999
engagement and resulted in a

3705
02:12:02,999 --> 02:12:04,999
plan the community of livermore

3706
02:12:04,999 --> 02:12:07,999
could support. City council of

3707
02:12:08,999 --> 02:12:11,000
livermore adopted it unanimously

3708
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,459
and it includes the highest

3709
02:12:13,459 --> 02:12:16,830
density in all of livermore the

3710
02:12:16,830 --> 02:12:18,000
tallest buildings lowest parking

3711
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,250
requirement and highest

3712
02:12:19,250 --> 02:12:20,375
affordable housing requirements

3713
02:12:20,375 --> 02:12:22,959
as well. We modeled this after

3714
02:12:22,959 --> 02:12:24,876
the previous -- or the current

3715
02:12:24,876 --> 02:12:27,276
tod policy and resolution 3434

3716
02:12:28,334 --> 02:12:30,834
even though it wasn't clear it

3717
02:12:30,834 --> 02:12:34,434
would apply in fact ur densities

3718
02:12:35,501 --> 02:12:38,250
exceed what would be tier one

3719
02:12:38,250 --> 02:12:39,959
even though valley link is a

3720
02:12:39,959 --> 02:12:41,792
tier three project however at

3721
02:12:41,792 --> 02:12:43,792
first it doesn't appear the

3722
02:12:43,792 --> 02:12:46,209
isabel plan will comply, and

3723
02:12:46,209 --> 02:12:47,584
meanwhile we're taking in

3724
02:12:47,584 --> 02:12:48,999
applications for housing. We

3725
02:12:48,999 --> 02:12:50,999
are working with a large

3726
02:12:50,999 --> 02:12:52,999
development on development

3727
02:12:53,209 --> 02:12:55,125
agreement for most of the vacant

3728
02:12:55,125 --> 02:12:57,709
land and I think if this plan

3729
02:12:57,709 --> 02:12:59,999
has to apply in the isabel area

3730
02:12:59,999 --> 02:13:01,918
it will result in a slowing of

3731
02:13:01,918 --> 02:13:03,542
the housing production. So I

3732
02:13:03,542 --> 02:13:05,830
request that mtc staff please

3733
02:13:05,830 --> 02:13:07,792
reach out to livermore, study

3734
02:13:07,792 --> 02:13:10,830
our plan and meet with us so we

3735
02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:11,209
can talk about what

3736
02:13:11,209 --> 02:13:12,709
implementation would really

3737
02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:14,542
mean. Thank you.

3738
02:13:14,542 --> 02:13:16,942
>>speaker: thank you. Hauscar

3739
02:13:21,292 --> 02:13:22,959
castro.

3740
02:13:22,959 --> 02:13:25,167
>>speaker: hi. Good afternoon

3741
02:13:25,167 --> 02:13:27,567
everyone I'm hauscar associate

3742
02:13:30,167 --> 02:13:32,292
director of housing and

3743
02:13:32,292 --> 02:13:33,918
transportation policy working

3744
02:13:33,918 --> 02:13:35,999
partnership usa thank you staff

3745
02:13:35,999 --> 02:13:37,999
for your work grateful for all

3746
02:13:37,999 --> 02:13:41,375
the work you have done we are

3747
02:13:41,375 --> 02:13:43,334
eager to work together to craft

3748
02:13:43,334 --> 02:13:45,999
the final policy in san jose

3749
02:13:45,999 --> 02:13:47,626
county and santa clara county we

3750
02:13:47,626 --> 02:13:49,501
are advocating day in and day

3751
02:13:49,501 --> 02:13:52,501
out related to housing justice

3752
02:13:52,999 --> 02:13:55,375
and a sustainable economy we are

3753
02:13:55,375 --> 02:13:58,975
pleased to see mtc's efforts to

3754
02:13:59,250 --> 02:14:00,999
offer solutions as the entire

3755
02:14:00,999 --> 02:14:03,209
region continues to grapple with

3756
02:14:03,209 --> 02:14:04,999
various housing challenges we

3757
02:14:04,999 --> 02:14:06,420
look forward to supporting this

3758
02:14:06,420 --> 02:14:08,420
agency on anti-displacement

3759
02:14:08,959 --> 02:14:11,359
issues and preservation efforts.

3760
02:14:14,792 --> 02:14:16,000
emphasizing importance for small

3761
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,000
business protections, in

3762
02:14:18,125 --> 02:14:20,830
particular public markets

3763
02:14:20,830 --> 02:14:23,830
located near or around transit

3764
02:14:23,834 --> 02:14:26,667
stations public markets or flea

3765
02:14:26,667 --> 02:14:29,670
markets that service real

3766
02:14:29,459 --> 02:14:30,999
economic opportunity to

3767
02:14:30,999 --> 02:14:33,399
thousands of vendors throughout

3768
02:14:33,417 --> 02:14:35,292
the region to make a living for

3769
02:14:35,292 --> 02:14:38,292
their families and putting forth

3770
02:14:38,459 --> 02:14:41,459
actions and policies to ensure

3771
02:14:41,876 --> 02:14:43,209
vendors continue to have an

3772
02:14:43,209 --> 02:14:45,609
opportunity as they're out

3773
02:14:47,667 --> 02:14:49,667
there.

3774
02:14:51,209 --> 02:14:51,999
>>clerk of the board: thank

3775
02:14:51,999 --> 02:14:53,999
you. Daryl halls.

3776
02:14:56,792 --> 02:14:57,918
>>daryl halls: daryl halls

3777
02:14:57,918 --> 02:14:58,999
metropolitan transportation

3778
02:14:58,999 --> 02:15:00,792
authority I want to thank

3779
02:15:00,792 --> 02:15:02,209
commissioner spering and north

3780
02:15:02,209 --> 02:15:03,959
and east bay commissioners and

3781
02:15:03,959 --> 02:15:05,999
staff for clarifying our county

3782
02:15:05,999 --> 02:15:07,999
of course say county of mostly

3783
02:15:07,999 --> 02:15:10,209
medium and small sized cities a

3784
02:15:10,209 --> 02:15:13,420
lot are working on pda plans we

3785
02:15:13,420 --> 02:15:16,626
have adopted our rhna numbers we

3786
02:15:16,626 --> 02:15:20,226
have moved forward and have two

3787
02:15:23,876 --> 02:15:25,999
ferry stations and terminals we

3788
02:15:25,999 --> 02:15:27,709
appreciate the general direction

3789
02:15:27,709 --> 02:15:30,459
going forward and we would

3790
02:15:30,459 --> 02:15:32,751
appreciate time to have dialogue

3791
02:15:32,751 --> 02:15:35,830
with staff it would be helpful.

3792
02:15:35,830 --> 02:15:37,830
thank you.

3793
02:15:37,125 --> 02:15:38,209
>>clerk of the board: thank

3794
02:15:38,209 --> 02:15:41,209
you. Next is nico nagle.

3795
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:45,999
>>speaker: good afternoon

3796
02:15:45,999 --> 02:15:48,999
everyone I'm nico speaking on

3797
02:15:49,375 --> 02:15:51,542
behalf of the housing coalition

3798
02:15:51,542 --> 02:15:53,667
I'll be quick I want to

3799
02:15:53,667 --> 02:15:55,167
reiterate points that have

3800
02:15:55,167 --> 02:15:56,999
already been made. One, thank

3801
02:15:56,999 --> 02:15:59,375
you to mtc staff for the work on

3802
02:15:59,375 --> 02:16:02,375
the toc policy recognizing this

3803
02:16:03,375 --> 02:16:05,775
massive undertaking folks have

3804
02:16:05,999 --> 02:16:07,751
committed lots of time and

3805
02:16:07,751 --> 02:16:08,999
resources to make sure we have a

3806
02:16:08,999 --> 02:16:11,876
plan for a successful future.

3807
02:16:11,876 --> 02:16:14,830
secondly, I want to reiterate

3808
02:16:14,830 --> 02:16:17,209
the idea that meeting the scale

3809
02:16:17,209 --> 02:16:19,751
of this challenge is incredibly

3810
02:16:19,751 --> 02:16:21,292
important moving forward with

3811
02:16:21,292 --> 02:16:24,751
urgency and the toc policy that

3812
02:16:24,751 --> 02:16:27,751
addresses the immense number of

3813
02:16:27,751 --> 02:16:30,751
homes we really need is not only

3814
02:16:30,751 --> 02:16:33,751
important for our shared housing

3815
02:16:34,834 --> 02:16:37,830
situation but in terms of

3816
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:39,483
building near transit stops,

3817
02:16:40,751 --> 02:16:43,420
it's immensely important for

3818
02:16:43,420 --> 02:16:44,667
meeting our shared climate

3819
02:16:44,667 --> 02:16:46,375
goals. Again, things that have

3820
02:16:46,375 --> 02:16:48,292
already been known. I think

3821
02:16:48,292 --> 02:16:50,709
folks here are -- you know,

3822
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:52,209
mostly on the same page of these

3823
02:16:52,209 --> 02:16:54,609
things. But moving forward,

3824
02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:57,334
urgently is a priority. I

3825
02:16:57,334 --> 02:16:58,876
appreciate all of your time.

3826
02:16:58,876 --> 02:17:00,667
thank you.

3827
02:17:00,667 --> 02:17:01,250
>>clerk of the board: thank

3828
02:17:01,250 --> 02:17:04,850
you. And last, we have laura.

3829
02:17:04,918 --> 02:17:07,125
go ahead and unmute yourself.

3830
02:17:07,125 --> 02:17:08,751
>>speaker: hi. Laura foote

3831
02:17:08,751 --> 02:17:10,834
from yimby action and speaking

3832
02:17:10,834 --> 02:17:13,709
on behalf of all of our bay area

3833
02:17:13,709 --> 02:17:14,999
chapters. We're obviously

3834
02:17:14,999 --> 02:17:16,751
prohousing and are going to be

3835
02:17:16,751 --> 02:17:18,417
following this policy closely as

3836
02:17:18,417 --> 02:17:20,334
it evolves and love all the work

3837
02:17:20,334 --> 02:17:22,334
staff is putting into it. So

3838
02:17:22,334 --> 02:17:23,626
many great comments have been

3839
02:17:23,626 --> 02:17:25,292
made and sin I'm last I'm not

3840
02:17:25,292 --> 02:17:27,542
going to repeat any of them.

3841
02:17:27,542 --> 02:17:29,125
one very small thing that might

3842
02:17:29,125 --> 02:17:31,209
be worth note suggest we also

3843
02:17:31,209 --> 02:17:33,584
talk about the challenges with

3844
02:17:33,584 --> 02:17:34,834
inclusionary policies with

3845
02:17:34,834 --> 02:17:36,999
putting the inclusionary rate

3846
02:17:36,999 --> 02:17:39,999
too high and that could

3847
02:17:40,375 --> 02:17:42,417
disincentivize housing one thing

3848
02:17:42,417 --> 02:17:45,709
to take into account is giving

3849
02:17:45,709 --> 02:17:47,792
cities credit when they directly

3850
02:17:47,792 --> 02:17:49,584
subsidize housing whether that's

3851
02:17:49,584 --> 02:17:52,000
through land grants or acquiring

3852
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:54,584
there is a lot to be done to get

3853
02:17:54,584 --> 02:17:55,999
cities more credit when they're

3854
02:17:55,999 --> 02:17:57,834
more directly subsidizing

3855
02:17:57,834 --> 02:18:00,234
housing rather than pursuing

3856
02:18:00,626 --> 02:18:02,792
inclusionary policies which can

3857
02:18:02,792 --> 02:18:04,792
be complicate. Right now this

3858
02:18:04,792 --> 02:18:07,999
is going to be a complicate

3859
02:18:07,999 --> 02:18:09,999
sprawling amazing hopeful

3860
02:18:09,999 --> 02:18:12,399
producing not sprawling policy.

3861
02:18:13,125 --> 02:18:14,918
appreciate all the work and look

3862
02:18:14,918 --> 02:18:17,999
forward to following along as it

3863
02:18:17,999 --> 02:18:18,999
develops.

3864
02:18:18,999 --> 02:18:19,751
>>clerk of the board: thank

3865
02:18:19,751 --> 02:18:22,959
you. Last call please dial star

3866
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:24,999
nine or use the raised hand

3867
02:18:24,999 --> 02:18:26,999
feature. Jordan grimes.

3868
02:18:29,542 --> 02:18:30,999
>>speaker: my name is jordan

3869
02:18:30,999 --> 02:18:33,999
grimes lead members of the

3870
02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:35,999
peninsula for everyone

3871
02:18:35,999 --> 02:18:38,399
grassroots housing and transit

3872
02:18:38,751 --> 02:18:42,209
advocacy group in san mateo and

3873
02:18:42,209 --> 02:18:43,792
santa clara county really

3874
02:18:43,792 --> 02:18:45,375
appreciate all the comments

3875
02:18:45,375 --> 02:18:47,375
commissioner josefowitz and

3876
02:18:47,375 --> 02:18:49,375
councilmember romero. We're

3877
02:18:50,584 --> 02:18:52,250
excited about how the draft

3878
02:18:52,250 --> 02:18:53,667
framework has turned out and

3879
02:18:53,667 --> 02:18:55,292
support the embrace of this good

3880
02:18:55,292 --> 02:18:57,000
smart and visionary public

3881
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,792
policy which is completely

3882
02:18:58,792 --> 02:19:00,830
necessary for the bay area's

3883
02:19:00,830 --> 02:19:01,459
future. There has been

3884
02:19:01,459 --> 02:19:02,792
significant discussion of cost

3885
02:19:02,792 --> 02:19:05,501
to the municipalities today so I

3886
02:19:05,501 --> 02:19:08,000
want to touch on this quickly we

3887
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,876
need to weigh in and keep at top

3888
02:19:09,876 --> 02:19:11,751
of mind the social and

3889
02:19:11,751 --> 02:19:13,584
environmental cost of not

3890
02:19:13,584 --> 02:19:15,417
embracing and implementing these

3891
02:19:15,417 --> 02:19:17,817
policies. Costs like rising

3892
02:19:19,375 --> 02:19:21,876
seas, raging wildfires and the

3893
02:19:21,876 --> 02:19:23,876
continued out-migration of

3894
02:19:24,292 --> 02:19:25,334
working and middle class

3895
02:19:25,334 --> 02:19:26,999
families from this state and

3896
02:19:26,999 --> 02:19:28,959
from the nine county bay area

3897
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:30,830
specifically. This framework

3898
02:19:30,830 --> 02:19:32,918
really gives working and middle

3899
02:19:32,918 --> 02:19:35,918
income folks a fighting chance

3900
02:19:36,375 --> 02:19:38,209
at having a future here while I

3901
02:19:38,209 --> 02:19:40,250
understand the importance of

3902
02:19:40,250 --> 02:19:41,999
regional planning I know climate

3903
02:19:41,999 --> 02:19:43,999
change and displacement are not

3904
02:19:43,999 --> 02:19:45,375
taking a phased approach I want

3905
02:19:45,375 --> 02:19:46,792
to encourage us to move forward

3906
02:19:46,792 --> 02:19:48,250
with a sense of urgency that the

3907
02:19:48,250 --> 02:19:51,830
problems we face deserve. Thank

3908
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:51,999
you very much for your time

3909
02:19:51,999 --> 02:19:52,876
today.

3910
02:19:52,876 --> 02:19:53,501
>>clerk of the board: there are

3911
02:19:53,501 --> 02:19:54,792
no members of the public with

3912
02:19:54,792 --> 02:19:55,167
their hand raised.

3913
02:19:55,167 --> 02:19:56,167
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3914
02:19:56,167 --> 02:19:59,167
chair: okay thank you martha.

3915
02:20:02,876 --> 02:20:04,417
I want to thank all the

3916
02:20:04,417 --> 02:20:06,209
speakers. That was very good

3917
02:20:06,209 --> 02:20:08,167
information in a minute and a

3918
02:20:08,167 --> 02:20:09,375
half we heard all the of you

3919
02:20:09,375 --> 02:20:11,830
loud and clear and the clarity

3920
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:12,830
of the testimony is very

3921
02:20:12,830 --> 02:20:13,792
helpful. Thank you.

3922
02:20:13,792 --> 02:20:15,334
matt, did you have anything from

3923
02:20:15,334 --> 02:20:17,734
the public comments or

3924
02:20:17,918 --> 02:20:18,999
commissioners that you want to

3925
02:20:18,999 --> 02:20:20,167
respond to before I close this

3926
02:20:20,167 --> 02:20:21,751
up?

3927
02:20:21,751 --> 02:20:22,999
>>matt maloney: no. I just

3928
02:20:22,999 --> 02:20:24,792
agree. I appreciate all of the

3929
02:20:24,792 --> 02:20:26,501
comments and questions today of

3930
02:20:26,501 --> 02:20:27,125
commissioners and board members

3931
02:20:27,125 --> 02:20:28,167
and members of the public it's

3932
02:20:28,167 --> 02:20:30,792
super helpful for us as staff we

3933
02:20:30,792 --> 02:20:32,918
have our work cut out for us

3934
02:20:32,918 --> 02:20:34,417
over the next few months and

3935
02:20:34,417 --> 02:20:35,751
certainly on the engagement

3936
02:20:35,751 --> 02:20:36,751
front we definitely hear you

3937
02:20:36,751 --> 02:20:38,999
about engaging more deeply with

3938
02:20:38,999 --> 02:20:39,959
locality jurisdictions. There

3939
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,709
was a request to go to the full

3940
02:20:41,709 --> 02:20:42,999
abag executive board by the

3941
02:20:42,999 --> 02:20:44,501
chair. We can certainly do

3942
02:20:44,501 --> 02:20:46,125
that. And, also, I think there

3943
02:20:46,125 --> 02:20:48,125
is an opportunity to use the,

3944
02:20:48,125 --> 02:20:49,999
what we have setup through the

3945
02:20:49,999 --> 02:20:51,420
regional housing technical

3946
02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:53,626
assistance process where we have

3947
02:20:53,626 --> 02:20:55,459
just a lot of avenues with local

3948
02:20:55,459 --> 02:20:56,999
planning directors to kind of

3949
02:20:56,999 --> 02:20:59,417
use that as a venue to have more

3950
02:20:59,417 --> 02:21:00,792
active discussion about this

3951
02:21:00,792 --> 02:21:02,000
especially as all the housing

3952
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:04,250
element work proceeds. So I

3953
02:21:04,250 --> 02:21:05,999
think that's a great ideas.

3954
02:21:05,999 --> 02:21:07,667
those are my take-away's. And

3955
02:21:07,667 --> 02:21:09,999
we'll be back in a few months

3956
02:21:09,999 --> 02:21:11,125
with more.

3957
02:21:11,125 --> 02:21:11,918
>>jim spering, mtc planning

3958
02:21:11,918 --> 02:21:14,375
chair: okay. Just some closing

3959
02:21:14,375 --> 02:21:16,334
observations. And first I want

3960
02:21:16,334 --> 02:21:17,999
to say that this is a first step

3961
02:21:17,999 --> 02:21:19,542
in a long journey that we're

3962
02:21:19,542 --> 02:21:20,999
going to be o but a very

3963
02:21:20,999 --> 02:21:21,999
important step. And I

3964
02:21:21,999 --> 02:21:23,459
appreciate staff bringing all of

3965
02:21:23,459 --> 02:21:25,834
these issues forward. And as I

3966
02:21:25,834 --> 02:21:27,834
said, they're in our plan. They

3967
02:21:27,834 --> 02:21:29,667
all need to have consideration.

3968
02:21:29,667 --> 02:21:31,584
I want to thank president

3969
02:21:31,584 --> 02:21:33,984
arreguin. You know, his

3970
02:21:34,375 --> 02:21:36,501
suggestion of engaging abag is,

3971
02:21:36,501 --> 02:21:38,542
I think, absolutely critical.

3972
02:21:38,542 --> 02:21:40,375
abag touches every city and

3973
02:21:40,375 --> 02:21:42,626
every county and to engage them

3974
02:21:42,626 --> 02:21:44,830
into this process is really

3975
02:21:44,830 --> 02:21:45,626
important. For us to have

3976
02:21:45,626 --> 02:21:47,125
success, we have got to have

3977
02:21:47,125 --> 02:21:49,417
buy-in. So jess thank you for

3978
02:21:49,417 --> 02:21:51,420
that suggestion. That's going

3979
02:21:51,420 --> 02:21:53,000
to be very helpful.

3980
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:54,999
staff, I would like to at least

3981
02:21:54,999 --> 02:21:56,999
we consider two phases. There

3982
02:21:56,999 --> 02:21:58,999
is so many strategies that need

3983
02:21:58,999 --> 02:22:01,000
to be implemented right away.

3984
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:03,959
some we have broad consensus, we

3985
02:22:03,959 --> 02:22:05,584
ought to put those in place

3986
02:22:05,584 --> 02:22:08,709
right away, and the second phase

3987
02:22:08,709 --> 02:22:10,542
are probably going to need a

3988
02:22:10,542 --> 02:22:11,709
little bit more analysis and

3989
02:22:11,709 --> 02:22:13,959
discussion and more consensus

3990
02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:15,125
building. So take a look at

3991
02:22:15,125 --> 02:22:17,000
that and maybe give us a

3992
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:18,667
timeline of how these strategies

3993
02:22:18,667 --> 02:22:20,918
can be implemented. The third

3994
02:22:20,918 --> 02:22:23,292
is that, I think it's very

3995
02:22:23,292 --> 02:22:25,626
important when you come back

3996
02:22:25,626 --> 02:22:26,999
that you identify what funding

3997
02:22:26,999 --> 02:22:28,420
sources we're talking about. If

3998
02:22:28,420 --> 02:22:29,626
there is one question they have

3999
02:22:29,626 --> 02:22:31,876
been asked this past week since

4000
02:22:31,876 --> 02:22:34,000
this has been released is, what

4001
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:37,167
funding are you guys going to

4002
02:22:37,167 --> 02:22:38,876
condition this to. We need to

4003
02:22:38,876 --> 02:22:40,167
have clarity on that. That's

4004
02:22:40,167 --> 02:22:41,626
very important.

4005
02:22:41,626 --> 02:22:43,501
number four, there is a lot of

4006
02:22:43,501 --> 02:22:44,999
planning money coming into this

4007
02:22:44,999 --> 02:22:46,999
region but with all the cities

4008
02:22:46,999 --> 02:22:48,167
and counties we have done one

4009
02:22:48,167 --> 02:22:49,999
hell of a lot of planning and we

4010
02:22:49,999 --> 02:22:52,250
have got projects that already

4011
02:22:52,250 --> 02:22:55,125
need no be delivered we have got

4012
02:22:55,125 --> 02:22:57,000
to get to the point where we're

4013
02:22:57,000 --> 02:22:58,501
starting to deliver projects we

4014
02:22:58,501 --> 02:23:00,250
can't just be studying and

4015
02:23:00,250 --> 02:23:03,667
planning we have got to have

4016
02:23:03,667 --> 02:23:05,375
delivery on some of these things

4017
02:23:05,375 --> 02:23:07,000
it's really personality. And

4018
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:08,834
lastly we need to be aware that

4019
02:23:08,834 --> 02:23:11,420
we should do no harm. Talking

4020
02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:12,000
to some of the developers since

4021
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:13,751
this came out, they have

4022
02:23:13,751 --> 02:23:16,151
increases between 20 and 30% of

4023
02:23:16,751 --> 02:23:18,626
materials. The conditions that

4024
02:23:18,626 --> 02:23:19,709
cities and counties are laying

4025
02:23:19,709 --> 02:23:22,834
on development, we have got to

4026
02:23:22,834 --> 02:23:24,999
be careful that we don't make it

4027
02:23:24,999 --> 02:23:26,542
so difficult that nobody's

4028
02:23:26,542 --> 02:23:27,667
building and especially that

4029
02:23:27,667 --> 02:23:28,918
nobody's building affordable

4030
02:23:28,918 --> 02:23:31,125
housing. We desperately need

4031
02:23:31,125 --> 02:23:32,959
that workforce and affordable

4032
02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:34,830
low-income housing and we need

4033
02:23:34,830 --> 02:23:36,209
to have incentives that really

4034
02:23:36,209 --> 02:23:39,209
help developers and help the

4035
02:23:39,999 --> 02:23:40,792
communities produce that

4036
02:23:40,792 --> 02:23:42,626
housing. Those are my closing

4037
02:23:42,626 --> 02:23:43,792
comments, commissioners and

4038
02:23:43,792 --> 02:23:45,626
board members. I can't thank

4039
02:23:45,626 --> 02:23:49,226
you enough for the input today

4040
02:23:53,999 --> 02:23:55,417
it's very encouraging. Staff

4041
02:23:55,417 --> 02:23:57,125
you got my attention but the way

4042
02:23:57,125 --> 02:23:58,959
this is being brought forward

4043
02:23:58,959 --> 02:24:02,559
and phased and the outreach and

4044
02:24:02,792 --> 02:24:03,501
the willingness to have more

4045
02:24:03,501 --> 02:24:05,459
discussion on this is extremely

4046
02:24:05,459 --> 02:24:06,751
important. People are not going

4047
02:24:06,751 --> 02:24:08,918
to feel threatened by what we're

4048
02:24:08,918 --> 02:24:10,999
trying to do. But this is an

4049
02:24:10,999 --> 02:24:12,876
extremely important first step.

4050
02:24:12,876 --> 02:24:15,375
and to bring all of these issues

4051
02:24:15,375 --> 02:24:17,292
forward and put them in the

4052
02:24:17,292 --> 02:24:20,999
light, I think had to be done.

4053
02:24:20,999 --> 02:24:22,709
and so, staff, thank you for

4054
02:24:22,709 --> 02:24:23,501
that.

4055
02:24:23,501 --> 02:24:25,334
I'm going to be very cautious in

4056
02:24:25,334 --> 02:24:26,999
the future when I ask you to be

4057
02:24:26,999 --> 02:24:29,667
bold and unflinching, that I'm

4058
02:24:29,667 --> 02:24:31,000
going to temper that a little

4059
02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:31,999
bit.

4060
02:24:31,999 --> 02:24:33,834
and therese, I just want to

4061
02:24:33,834 --> 02:24:36,292
thank you, for understanding and

4062
02:24:36,292 --> 02:24:37,751
sensitivity of this, and your

4063
02:24:37,751 --> 02:24:39,999
introduction, I think is

4064
02:24:39,999 --> 02:24:42,125
extremely important. For that,

4065
02:24:42,125 --> 02:24:42,999
thank you.

4066
02:24:42,999 --> 02:24:44,751
with that, unless anybody has

4067
02:24:44,751 --> 02:24:46,501
any last burning comments, I

4068
02:24:46,501 --> 02:24:47,999
think we're at the end of our

4069
02:24:47,999 --> 02:24:50,250
agenda. Martha is that correct?

4070
02:24:50,250 --> 02:24:50,999
>>clerk of the board: that is

4071
02:24:50,999 --> 02:24:52,999
correct. We just need to take

4072
02:24:52,999 --> 02:24:53,542
general public comment.

4073
02:24:53,542 --> 02:24:55,542
>>jesse arreguin, abag

4074
02:24:56,334 --> 02:24:56,999
administrative chair: chair, I

4075
02:24:56,999 --> 02:24:58,375
want to make an announcement for

4076
02:24:58,375 --> 02:24:58,999
the abag members.

4077
02:24:58,999 --> 02:24:59,542
>>jim spering, mtc planning

4078
02:24:59,542 --> 02:25:00,999
chair: oh yeah. I was going to

4079
02:25:00,999 --> 02:25:01,417
ask you about that.

4080
02:25:01,417 --> 02:25:02,125
>>jesse arreguin, abag

4081
02:25:02,125 --> 02:25:02,999
administrative chair: we have

4082
02:25:02,999 --> 02:25:03,999
the advancing california

4083
02:25:03,999 --> 02:25:04,999
financing authority. That

4084
02:25:04,999 --> 02:25:06,918
should be quick then we'll do

4085
02:25:06,918 --> 02:25:07,417
the abag executive board

4086
02:25:07,417 --> 02:25:08,584
meeting. Some people are

4087
02:25:08,584 --> 02:25:10,709
waiting to get into the zoom but

4088
02:25:10,709 --> 02:25:12,999
just wanted to -- as soon as

4089
02:25:12,999 --> 02:25:15,000
we're done with this, to go to

4090
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:16,417
the zoom link for the abag

4091
02:25:16,417 --> 02:25:16,834
meeting.

4092
02:25:16,834 --> 02:25:17,375
>>jim spering, mtc planning

4093
02:25:17,375 --> 02:25:18,167
chair: thanks jess. I was

4094
02:25:18,167 --> 02:25:19,999
going to ask you about that I'm

4095
02:25:19,999 --> 02:25:22,501
glad you remembered. With that

4096
02:25:22,501 --> 02:25:25,501
do we have public comment?

4097
02:25:25,584 --> 02:25:26,209
>>clerk of the board: there are

4098
02:25:26,209 --> 02:25:26,999
no members of the public with

4099
02:25:26,999 --> 02:25:27,667
their hand raised, and there was

4100
02:25:27,667 --> 02:25:28,292
no public comment submitted on

4101
02:25:28,292 --> 02:25:28,751
this item.

4102
02:25:28,751 --> 02:25:29,292
>>jim spering, mtc planning

4103
02:25:29,292 --> 02:25:29,999
chair: all right. Great. It

4104
02:25:29,999 --> 02:25:31,125
sounds like we did a good job,

4105
02:25:31,125 --> 02:25:32,792
team. So, thank you. So with

4106
02:25:32,792 --> 02:25:36,392
that, you know, keep working and

4107
02:25:36,876 --> 02:25:38,999
monitoring this closely, but I

4108
02:25:38,999 --> 02:25:40,999
think this is a good first step.

4109
02:25:40,999 --> 02:25:42,125
thank you everyone. And this

4110
02:25:42,125 --> 02:25:42,834
meeting is adjourned.

4111
02:25:42,834 --> 02:25:44,834
[adjourned]