1 00:00:09,825 --> 00:00:11,845 [music] 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,080 » Welcome everyone. I would like to call this Bay County Board of Commissioners 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:26,360 meeting to be held on on Tuesday, August 18th, 2026 at 4:00 p.m. to order. Madam 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,480 Clerk, roll call, please. >> Niemiec? 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,480 » Here. >> Kek? 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,640 » Here. >> Beeson? 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,600 » Here. >> Rath? 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,560 » Here. >> Docket? 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,560 » Here. >> Kreet? 10 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:33,640 » Here. >> Banaja? 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,360 » Here. >> Thank you. Please rise for the 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,200 invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. >> Heavenly Father, we come before you this 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:45,320 afternoon thanking you for the guidance and understanding that you have given 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:49,160 this Board of Commissioners. We ask again today for your help and direction 15 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:52,440 so the Board may make the fair and proper decisions for all citizens of Bay 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,720 County. Amen. >> Amen. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,560 » Amen. >> Pledge of Allegiance. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:02,200 » allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:07,840 for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,840 justice for all. 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,320 » The minutes of 6/14/26. 22 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,280 » Move to approve. >> Support. 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,000 » Isn't there We have um 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Oh, amendment? >> Yeah, that's 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,560 » That's part of the agenda. >> That's next. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,440 » Oh, yeah. >> That's next. We have her. 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,960 » Okay. >> Yep. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:40,880 » Okay, any discussion? All in favor? Aye. 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Policy number two carries. Any agenda approval? 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,040 I'd like to add two items to the agenda. Like to 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,680 uh add under unfinished business a motion to approve the recommendation of 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,720 outside counsel, Ted Seats, as discussed during the closed session 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:02,320 held at the August 11th, 2026 meeting of the whole and to approve the recommended 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,640 budget adjustment as well as Can I make them together or 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,119 do they have to be separate? >> They're separate. 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,560 » Separate. >> Okay, so that's the first one. 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 » Support. >> Is there any discussion? Seeing none, 38 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:15,040 all in favor? >> Aye. 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,959 » Opposed seeing none, motion carries. >> Thank you. Second one 40 00:02:16,896 --> 00:02:20,120 » [clears throat] >> is 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Excuse me, to add a request for closed session by corporation counsel on behalf 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:28,240 of personnel director pursuant to MCL 15.268 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:32,600 subsection 1E to consult with attorney regarding litigation and our settlement 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:36,720 strategies in the ongoing Gary Redjinski workers compensation matter. 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,880 » Support. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, all in 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,400 favor? >> Aye. 47 00:02:39,166 --> 00:02:41,600 » [clears throat] >> Opposed seeing none, motion carries. 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,200 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Any agenda approval? >> I make a motion to approve the agenda 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,520 with the changes. >> Support. 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,640 » Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,440 » Aye. >> Opposed seeing none, motion carries. 53 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:58,840 At this time, this is citizens input. Is there anyone who wishes to address 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,840 this commission? Please come forward. 55 00:03:01,959 --> 00:03:07,120 Going once. Yes. 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,280 You have 3 minutes, please. >> Okay. Hi. 57 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:15,680 I'm Katie Berry. Um let me start cuz every time people 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,400 people are worried I know that you guys can't respond to me. 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Um but I'm just here doing awareness for 60 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:27,600 foster care in Bay County. Um 61 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:33,880 Part of what I do is we have a contract with the state of Michigan. I do foster 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:39,760 care recruitment. I do a training. I do support groups and fun events in Bay 63 00:03:36,519 --> 00:03:44,760 County and in 18 counties in Michigan. Um so me or my team goes and does that. 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Um so really just wanted to kind of ask all of 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:56,680 you because you're the experts in you know in your area if you have um 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:02,320 like any events that you can invite us to, if you know of any groups that we 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:07,240 can speak of or speak in front of, rather. Um 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:11,120 we have great new data in the state. Um we've worked with the University of 69 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:17,160 Chicago to get new data in the state of Michigan on foster care. Um and so some 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:23,560 of the things that we can tell with this data is where specifically our kids are 71 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:28,520 coming into care, like what zip codes. Um what kinds of kids. Um and and we 72 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:34,280 were tracking this, but we're better able to see in each county, in each area 73 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:40,800 what kinds of kids we need to be prepared for it to be able to house and 74 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:46,760 and potentially help them. So, if you can think of anything, um I do have I do 75 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,880 have um information if you guys would like to grab something after. Um or if 76 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,760 you can think of a way that we can partner. Um I've done a lot of these cuz 77 00:04:53,800 --> 00:05:01,640 we have 18 counties and it's a great way to meet people who are really experts in 78 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:07,360 that their area. So, um I and I'll leave you with a couple facts 79 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:12,080 cuz I look at data all day. Um and plan events. I think we have like 80 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:18,160 close to 500 events for the year wrapping up in September for 18 counties 81 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:23,240 in Michigan, but um if you didn't know, the state of Michigan has we hover 82 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:30,040 around 10,000 kids in the foster care system at any given time. Um that number 83 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:33,720 has been pretty stable and in Bay County, it's 84 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:39,080 I think it's 100 and it was 118 kids who are currently in 85 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:43,800 care as of like July. Um 86 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:48,760 but as a state, we have these 10,000 kids in care and we only have a about 87 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:55,320 3,400 uh foster like licensed foster homes. 88 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:59,360 So, huge need for good people. If you guys have any ideas, I will give you my 89 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,760 contact information. Thanks. 90 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:12,280 » Is there anyone else willing to address the commission? 91 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Going once, going twice. Public input is closed at this time. 92 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Petitions and communications. Presentations, representatives from Face 93 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Addiction Now, which is FAN, Recovery Pathways, Sacred Heart, and Peer 360 94 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,360 have been invited to provide updates regarding their organization, programs, 95 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:34,120 and services. Participation is subject to each organization's availability, and 96 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:39,560 the agenda item does not confirm attendance by any specific organization. 97 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,560 So, who would like to go first? Okay. 98 00:06:40,919 --> 00:06:43,560 Welcome, Lori. 99 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,680 » I'm Lori Zilkhauskas, and I wear a number of hats in our community. And 100 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,560 today, I am wearing my FAN hat, Face Addiction Now. It's an organization that 101 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Judge Harry Gill and I co-founded coming up on 9 years ago to help provide 102 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,120 compassionate support for individuals and families who are struggling with 103 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,880 addiction, like my family, whose our daughter Amanda now is 10 and 1/2 years 104 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,280 in recovery. We just moved her from Detroit to Ypsilanti so she can start 105 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:16,000 her master's degree in social work at U of M. So, go blue. Even the Spartan in 106 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,680 me will say that today. Um I've also brought with me a couple of colleagues. 107 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,280 » My name is Scott Garber, and I'm the Bay County Jail Diversion Program 108 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Coordinator for Face Addiction Now. >> Hi, I'm Taylor Shear. I'm the Public 109 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Health Education Coordinator for the tri-areas uh for Face Addiction Now. 110 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:37,000 » We were one of the fortunate agencies to receive opioid settlement dollars last 111 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:42,360 year, and we wanted to first of all say how grateful we are to those um those 112 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:46,000 funds um for Executive Barshe and his team doing the work to get those funds 113 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,160 and then for all of you to get those funds out into the community. We're 114 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,960 excited that the Bay Area Community Foundation now has access to those 115 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,480 because they're so good at at getting money where it belongs. So, we wanted to 116 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,080 give you an update on how your money was spent and the good that it's done in our 117 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:04,520 community. So, the two folks standing next to me are the people that we hired 118 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,960 to do this work. One of our focuses was a jail diversion program. This isn't 119 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,480 something that fan cooked up, although it happened very organically in our 120 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:15,520 community. There's a national trend as you may have heard how we are 121 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,440 intersecting with folks who struggle with addiction, especially with law 122 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:23,919 enforcement. I'm a girl from Bay City from the '80s and you know, the the 123 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,680 fried egg and the drugs are going to fry your brain 124 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,480 it just never worked, right? And incarcerating people never worked to 125 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:34,000 stop them from using either. So, we looked at other models that are working 126 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,840 across the country and there is a big movement in jail diversion. We partnered 127 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,200 with our Bay City PD, public safety, and also with the 128 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,800 Sheriff's department and the other police agencies in Midland and Saginaw 8 129 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,240 years ago to start a Hope Not Handcuffs program where people can walk in and ask 130 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:52,680 for help. And instead of getting in trouble for a medical condition, they 131 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,920 call us and we get you into treatment, which is much more effective. Then we 132 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:01,400 started our quick response teams where a police officer goes out to make home 133 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,880 visits to people who have overdosed or at risk of overdose. The police know 134 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,920 where people are drinking and beating each other up. They know where there are 135 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,920 drugs and we know how to help people. Those programs are in existence in 136 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,839 existence in both of our law enforcement agencies. Our recent program, jail 137 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:20,000 diversion program, there are multiple ways to intercede to help people and one 138 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:24,960 of them is is when they are incarcerated and that's what Scott does. Scott works 139 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,960 with the prosecutor, the judges, and the the lawyers in our community to help get 140 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,200 people who are struggling with addiction that their primary reason for being in 141 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:37,840 jail is because of addicted related things like possession or retail fraud. 142 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,880 We do not help get people out of jail who have criminal sexual conduct or 143 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:45,360 violent crimes. There's a screening process. Um but we do help people who if 144 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:49,520 they got better wouldn't be in jail any longer. So, that's one of the focuses 145 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,440 that jail diversion program. I will say that in another community in Macomb, 146 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,560 they actually work with the police and the police don't arrest people. They 147 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,000 bring in them into our program at that point. So, there are multiple ways to 148 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,680 intersect. We'd love to get to that point because it saves you guys a lot of 149 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:08,640 money when we stop arresting and incarcerating rating and housing people 150 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,760 in the jail. It's it's very beneficial. In fact, SAMHSA says that for every 151 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:18,360 dollar we spend helping people not use drugs, we save $7 in the criminal 152 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:22,840 justice system and an additional $4 in health care. So, it is very economically 153 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:27,240 sound. I have an MBA. I'm about people, but I'm also about pocket. So, um 154 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Scott's program has been very effective. It started organically when one of our 155 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,520 folks from Hope Not Handcuffs got the handcuffs again. And he called Scott 156 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,800 from jail and said, "Can you help me?" And Scott's like, "I don't think so. Now 157 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,800 you're in jail." So, he said, "Just come to the court with me if you would." And 158 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Scott did that. And Scott showed up and Scott was willing to help get him into 159 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,360 treatment again. And the judge asked Scott, "Can you get him to treatment? 160 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Will you take him to treatment?" And Scott said, "Yeah, I can do that." And 161 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:56,480 that's how this program began with that one person and that one Judge Sharon who 162 00:10:54,160 --> 00:11:00,560 was willing to try that. And ever since then, this program built up speed 163 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,680 because of course word of mouth is we can get treatment instead of 164 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:08,440 incarceration. So, I want to share some of the data um because that's how we 165 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:12,560 make our decisions. Um currently for fiscal year 26, which for us begins in 166 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:16,400 October on October 1st, that's when we received this funding, there were 95 167 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:20,240 individuals that we intersected with that were currently incarcerated. 168 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Actively complying with the program are 33 people right now who are in process 169 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,280 out of jail and in process complying with the program. They're required to go 170 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:33,480 to residential treatment. We try to keep them there for 90 days, that's rehab. 171 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Then they're required to go immediately to recovery housing. That's group 172 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,840 supportive housing, not individual apartments, group supportive housing. 173 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,560 They're required to do that, plus do everything else the court tells them. 174 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,680 So, we've got 35% of those folks complying right now. We have 20 people, 175 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,560 21% of them, who have already successfully completed. They did 176 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:57,680 everything that was required of them for months on end, and the court then sees 177 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,880 them and sentences them generally to, "Okay, you did everything you needed 178 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:06,560 to." We get them out of the court system, we get them better. 179 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:10,680 Um just for uh reference, um 69% of those folks were male, 31% were female, 180 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,720 and that's generally what we see with substance use disorder. The referrals 181 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:20,160 that we get are from attorneys. 72% of our referrals come from their attorneys, 182 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:24,840 and then 28% from come from law enforcement, MDOC, family, friends, or 183 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:29,360 other agencies in our area. That's how we learn about people who need our help. 184 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:33,120 So, our current placement, we have 28 people in the community with in our 185 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:37,320 recovery homes. Um currently incarcerated and on our waitlist and in 186 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,880 some process of Scott connecting with them and helping to get them to 187 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:45,920 treatment, 49 people. So, half of our people are waiting. If we had more help, 188 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:50,440 we could do this faster. Inpatient treatment, we've got two people, and 189 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:54,800 then sober living, we've got 16 people. This program started organically, and we 190 00:12:52,839 --> 00:12:59,560 were funding it until we couldn't. And I will tell you, when we first started 191 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:03,800 December of 2023 through April 2026, there were 293 people that had 192 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:08,000 successfully completed that program. It astounded us that there was over a 70% 193 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:12,120 success rate. We thought there'd maybe be a 30% that you'd get people in the 194 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,960 car and they'd run. That is not what happened. People want 195 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:20,760 to get well, and we have the process for doing that. So, we were very pleased 196 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:25,000 with the program. We did just resubmit um to the Community Foundation. We're 197 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,280 hoping to get another year, and I will ask at this point, I know we had talked 198 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:33,680 about it before, if we could do a three-year grant instead of a one-year 199 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:37,240 grant, that saves a lot of time, energy, and frustration in refilling out the 200 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,080 papers, re-looking at the papers, the committee exploring it. And as you know 201 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,360 with grant funding, having to do that every single year really slows down our 202 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:49,560 progress. So, I would ask that you reconsider that grant length. And and 203 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,440 for people that it would help, for agencies, I would I would recommend um 204 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,800 re-re-looking at that. So, the program's been fantastic. Taylor is just a new 205 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,720 hire, but she's not unfamiliar to Bay City. She worked for our Neighborhood 206 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Resource Center, McLaren Prevention Network for some time, and it's her role 207 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:08,760 to go out and educate the community all sorts of different angles on that. Um 208 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:13,040 and so, we're really pleased with the progress we made. When Harry and I 209 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:17,360 started this, we were 100% volunteer organization. There was no staff, there 210 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:22,080 was no money, and right now, thanks to MDHHS, we have an office that is getting 211 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:26,240 painted and spruced up over on Wilder Road. We just got a new harm reduction 212 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,560 van. We're able to serve more people. So, the more of that money that you get 213 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:34,480 into our community, the more of an impact that we can make, and all of the 214 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,320 other agencies will echo that. I know there's kind of a philosophy on let's 215 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:42,400 keep it so the money sustainable. What I would require is that the impact is 216 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:47,360 sustainable. And if we're holding on to money that could fund good programs now, 217 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:51,120 you're leaving a year of where we can lose people. So, please consider that 218 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,400 when you're looking at the amount that you're awarding as well. If there are 219 00:14:53,000 --> 00:15:00,400 good programs, I would say please please award the agencies that need that money. 220 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Do you have any questions for us? Yes. 221 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,760 » So, we have the DARE program for kids. So, what's what's going on with kids 222 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,280 right now? >> So, um when they did the data and the 223 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,800 research, they found that the DARE program was ineffective in stopping kids 224 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:18,200 from using drugs. We have a huge gap in our community with youth programs and 225 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:21,839 youth support services. As you know from the overdose fatality review committee, 226 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,920 there was a father who died who left behind three little kids and my question 227 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,080 was how are we getting those children grief support services. Currently right 228 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:33,000 now at FAN Central down in Macomb County they are doing a week-long training of 229 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:38,200 how do we serve children. There is a huge need for serving children in our 230 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,160 community one to help to help um them those who are struggling with substance 231 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,320 use disorder. There's only two facilities in the state that will take 232 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,440 18-year-old under who are struggling with substance use disorder because of 233 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,600 the risk. So it's hard to get them into treatment. We don't have enough 234 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,520 treatment for that. And then grief support is a really essential thing and 235 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,560 a lot of the kids it's their parents that are struggling. How do we support 236 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,400 the kids at home when the parents are struggling either actively in the home 237 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,880 or the kids are removed from foster care. Um 238 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:11,760 uh the recently um uh person who left MDHHS the the state 239 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,800 head of it um Elizabeth Hertel when she opened up Andy's Place was 240 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:19,920 there for the groundbreaking and opening of that place she stated that the number 241 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:24,480 one reason kids are removed from care is because of substance use reason. The 242 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:29,360 number one reason that kids can't get back home is substance use reason and 243 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:32,880 the number two is lack of housing. We have two crises in our community and 244 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,400 we're not alone. There is a lack of housing in general specifically 245 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:41,120 supportive housing that we know that works and there is a lack of services 246 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:46,080 for children and we know that. Ask anybody in our community they can attest 247 00:16:42,839 --> 00:16:49,880 to that. So um Katie Ball is tasked with doing school programs. FAN also has um a 248 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,960 school program that we run down in Macomb County so um Taylor will be 249 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:58,600 coordinating that but we need to be actively consistently engaged in 250 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:03,120 schools. It can't be a one and done boom we had a gym presentation. 251 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,120 That cannot be the conversation. Um and the conversation we need to be having is 252 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,560 about vaping. It's about cannabis use because cannabis is not the same from 253 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:13,640 the 70s pink elephant paralyzer when I was growing up. [clears throat] It is 254 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:19,480 not the same and it is causing THC psychosis and it is it is sparking um 255 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,680 schizophrenia in young people. >> Mhm. That's a real thing. We have to 256 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:29,160 have those conversations. Stimulants like Adderall, kids share that. We come 257 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:33,000 in and do the presentation at at Delta College for the new police academy, and 258 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,400 two semesters ago four guys in the police academy said we would just These 259 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,400 guys are from here. We just found a handful of Adderall and 260 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:43,200 get jacked up and go out and play football. 261 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Our high school football guys. This is common. I'll tell you when our daughter 262 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:51,800 started shooting up heroin at 18 after she was at Delta College for a year, had 263 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:57,480 went to Faith Lutheran and graduated from John Glenn, I did not know what was 264 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:01,840 available. It is very different than the 70s and 80s in our community. And we 265 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,280 can't be naive to that. So there's a lot more work to do with that. I appreciate 266 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:09,400 you asking the question. It's a huge gap in our community and I hope that we find 267 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,080 ways to step up to that. Any others? 268 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,800 We thank you for your continued support. It's making a difference. Thank you. 269 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,280 » Thank you, Lori. >> Thank you. 270 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:26,800 » Is there anyone else here from Peer 360? 271 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,880 » Hey everybody, my name is Joel Henseler. I'm a person in long-term recovery. 272 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:39,600 I love Scott. Scott's a good friend. He does amazing work. 273 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:43,920 We brought I brought some printouts, some data of 274 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:49,640 what we did with the money. I have quite a few. If you anybody wants to look at 275 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:54,320 it afterwards, however, AI did make it. The data is legit, 276 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:57,960 but AI created it. I know the data is legit because I put the data in at the 277 00:18:56,120 --> 00:19:02,160 end of every week for the last year. 278 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,160 So instead of reading off of this, I'll just try and do it old school and read 279 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,400 here. Um 280 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Again, I've been in recovery for 9 years. I've worked in recovery for about 281 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,680 7 and 1/2. All 7 and 1/2 have been with Pure 360 to some capacity. Um 282 00:19:15,433 --> 00:19:19,240 » [snorts] >> they received this money and he called 283 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:24,360 me last year and asked if I wanted to be involved. I said I did and he 284 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:29,240 he gave me three points that they kind of wanted to touch on. Those were 285 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,680 recovery coaching and transportation, uh I built some community partnerships, do 286 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:36,280 some outreach, and then do some harm reduction. 287 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,880 He told me that and then said, "You can start working. Make that happen." Uh so, 288 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,560 this is what I did. For recovery coach engagements, we had a 289 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:49,520 target of 250 engagements for the year. Um 290 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,000 Okay, first I started off I started going to I've been a coach for a while 291 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,040 and the people I coach are justice-impacted. So, 292 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:01,000 they're usually on probation, parole, they're involved with the courts, CPS in 293 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,560 some capacity. These are the people I'm used to coaching. 294 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,760 My executive director said, "Uh we're trying to reach the people 295 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,400 that are in the gaps, the people that don't already have these services. So, 296 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:15,360 try and reach these people." So, I went to recovery court a few times, called 297 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:19,120 the pre-trial services, I reached out to people I'm used to, and then I tried to 298 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,400 kind of think outside the box. So, I started going to food pantries, 299 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,240 um Salvation Army, Dream Center, 300 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,520 and I'd bring a table with me and a tablecloth and I'd set up flyers for our 301 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,560 recover our services, other organizations' services, and I would 302 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,280 just have conversations with everybody that came to the table. I'd bring a 303 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,360 bunch of swag, give them chapsticks, Kleenex, 304 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:45,000 um and that was it. And I had a lot. So, 305 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:47,520 the target was 250, I actually had 3,299 engagements. 306 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Um when I read that, I was like, "That's a 307 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:55,040 lot." But, I put down every single person that I had a conversation with, 308 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:58,560 not just recovery, but any kind of service that I knew about that I could 309 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:02,680 get the word out to them. Um 310 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:07,760 and for transportation, I did 194 services in the last in the last year. 311 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:11,720 Again, that's recovery support groups, recovery support meetings, um doctor's 312 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:15,040 appointments, court appointment. I took people grocery shopping. Anybody that I 313 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:19,560 met in the process of this work, if they needed a ride somewhere, I wrote it down 314 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:24,600 that I gave somebody a ride. The second thing we did was community partnerships 315 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:30,840 and outreach. I had I met with 19 different community 316 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:38,000 partners. Our target was 60 referrals to outside organizations for things, and we 317 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:42,760 had 274 confirmed referrals. I joined coalitions like Project Hope, 318 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,880 the Prevention Coalition, and of course Recovery by the Bay 319 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,720 planning meeting. We have a really big event coming up September 26th, Recovery 320 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,400 by the Bay down at Wana Ona Park. We would love all the support that we can 321 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:59,440 get. My part that I played in this was to get 322 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:03,960 resource vendor tables there. And we currently have 38 different 323 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:08,520 resource available coming. 324 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,640 Yeah, so I had 19 19 engagements with community partners, 325 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,640 but we have 38 of them coming to this event down at Wana Ona Park, so 326 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:23,720 And then moving on to harm reduction. Harm reduction, we had a target of 150 327 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:29,520 engagements. I had 679 engagements for harm reduction. It 328 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:33,400 really started to take off. They spoke about it and decided that we 329 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:38,240 kind of needed to rebrand our harm reduction operation, so we rebranded it 330 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:42,040 into Streetlight. It's still Peer 360, however, it's a 331 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,680 separate thing. I meet people where they're at. I meet 332 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:50,440 them with compassion. I used to think harm reduction was 333 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:54,560 let me get people to use substances safely until they're ready to get into 334 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:58,320 treatment, and I've learned the job is just to meet people with compassion, 335 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,360 meet meet them where they are. Maybe they don't want to stop using. It's not 336 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:06,960 my job to get them to stop using. It's my job to keep them alive and safe. 337 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,400 Um and while I've been doing that, it's really taken me back to when I used 338 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:15,320 to use. And if somebody ever met me with some compassion, I think I would have 339 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:19,760 entered recovery much earlier than what I did. 340 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:24,160 I just don't think they expect people like it's one thing there's a lot of 341 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,440 talk about enabling and this and that and it's not I've made I've met some I 342 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:32,400 made some really cool impactful connections with people that I don't 343 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,640 think they would have expected, right? It's the same thing day in and day out 344 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,640 for them. They're just existing and someone comes along and here's some 345 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,280 safer use supplies but here's also a wound care kit. Here's a medicine lock 346 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,480 box. Here's a book bag. Here's a blanket. Here's a sleeping bag. Here's a 347 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:50,160 bottle of water. I buy a gift cards. I'll take you to 348 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:55,120 McDonald's and get you food. These kind of relationships are things 349 00:23:52,520 --> 00:24:00,080 that they're not used to. So, um this was by far my favorite part of 350 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,920 the job was the harm reduction. I distributed 7,690 351 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,440 supplies. Um that includes Narcan, medicine lock 352 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:12,480 boxes, wound care kits, safer use supplies, hygiene kits. A lot of these 353 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:16,760 things were made possible by the Wings Center, Sacred Heart, and the Prevention 354 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Network. Prevention Network was huge. She supplied me with lots of things. 355 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,760 Uh I did go out and get lots of supplies on my own 356 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:29,120 um just to be able to provide cuz some things weren't covered within the grant. 357 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:33,240 And for the third thing, no challenges. Oh, 358 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,720 no. We spent all the money. There was no challenges spending all the money. 359 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,280 So, we don't have anything planned for that. We will be applying again through 360 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,880 uh Bay Area Foundation to get some money. 361 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:49,280 I'll read this last paragraph that's AI generated cuz it sounds pretty good. On 362 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,000 behalf of Peer 360 Recovery Alliance, we want to thank the Bay County for 363 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,240 trusting us with these opioid settlement dollars. The results show the need for 364 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,400 recovery coaching, transportation, harm reduction, and hands-on referral support 365 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,080 is significant. More importantly, these numbers represent people in our 366 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:07,800 community who are met where they were, connect to support, and given another 367 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,720 opportunity to move forward safely. We are grateful for the county's 368 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:15,600 investment and proud of the foundation this grant showed us to build. 369 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,680 » Any questions? >> Any questions, Bonnie? 370 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,520 » Lori mentioned the office of fatality review and uh 371 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,160 some sad stories, you know, she mentioned a 372 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,720 father of three kids and what are the kids going to do now? A lot of young 373 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:34,440 people. So, there's still people, you know, that's down. The the fatality rate 374 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:38,720 is down, but it it's still there. So, we we need to keep up the work on it. 375 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:43,200 » Yeah, I actually have been on a lot of those meetings as well. Um one thing I'm 376 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,560 doing harm reduction work now a little bit in Saginaw and Midland County as 377 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:53,240 well. One thing that we do differently here are the Narcan newspaper boxes. Um 378 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:57,560 those are everywhere and they get used and that's not in every county and I 379 00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:02,360 think that plays a huge role in why people still get to stay alive, you 380 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,560 know, because it's being used. So, yeah. 381 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 » Thank you, guys. >> Thank you. 382 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,480 » Thank you. 383 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:17,320 » Is there anyone else from Recovery Pathways or 384 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,320 um Sacred Heart? 385 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Seeing none, [snorts] we'll move on. >> Yes. 386 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,960 » Well, thank you for letting me come. I appreciate it and thank you, Alex, 387 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,320 whoever you are. I've never met you, but I appreciate this very much. So, um I 388 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,960 just My name's Kim Dubay. I'm from Recovery Pathways. I'm the director over 389 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,360 there. Been there since we started in 2009 on Midland Street. Everybody 390 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,080 thought we were on a strange street to offer recovery and I said it's the first 391 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,240 chance to make the right choice when you leave the door. We grew a little bigger 392 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,480 and moved to Essexville and we grew a little bigger yet and came back 393 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:57,760 downtown. That might look like a familiar building to a lot of you. So, 394 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,880 we're close neighbor. It's interesting to hear everybody else that's spoken 395 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:05,080 because I feel like we're all part of the same team, and we have a lot of 396 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,040 overlap and shared resources and shared compassion with one another for the work 397 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,640 that we do. The opiate settlement money that we got 398 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:15,520 for us, we're downtown. We see people out those windows walk by every day. 399 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Homeless individuals, people struggling with substance use, all kinds of folks 400 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,920 that just don't know where to go and need to walk in today and access help. 401 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:28,200 So, what we said is let's break down those barriers. I can say next slide to 402 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,840 whomever that would be. Or is that me? >> Click the arrow there somewhere. 403 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,200 » Oh. You got it. >> Is it that one? There we go. 404 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,400 Thank you. So, our idea was to eliminate barriers 405 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,280 and improve access. So, if you walk into any doctor's office today, whether it's 406 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,760 treatment or primary care, you have to get your insurance vetted. We have to 407 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:49,320 see when do we have an appointment for you. It might be a couple of weeks. We 408 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,840 might not take your insurance, and here's a boatload of paperwork to fill 409 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,920 out. When you have substance use disorder and you're in withdrawal, those 410 00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:01,840 are barriers that make you leave and not come back. And when you leave, those 411 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:06,040 risks, delayed care, disengagement, continued use, overdose, and death or 412 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,600 emergency department visit are definitely likely in your future. So, a 413 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,120 couple testimonials from people there. One person said, "I didn't think there 414 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,840 was any hope, but I heard about you guys. I walked in, and I got taken care 415 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,840 of that same day." And another person said, "I can't believe we have help 416 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,200 here. They're giving me rides, and this is really working." So, it's nice to see 417 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,840 some people say things are helping. But, what we wanted 418 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,320 to do is improve the access. What do we do? When you talk about treatment, 419 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,920 there's all different levels. Is it the right level of care for you? Should you 420 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,320 be an outpatient? Should you be an inpatient? Should you be at detox, 421 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:42,200 residential, supportive housing, etc.? And if you do need any of those, when 422 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,480 can you get there, and how will you get there? So, what we did was use these 423 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:51,280 funds to open the doors, provide staff to service anybody that walked in, do a 424 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,440 brief assessment with them, decide what their needs were and working through 425 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,960 with that with them together, offer them treatment that same day. If 426 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,480 you needed to see the doctor, he was right over there. We would help you go 427 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,640 see him right now. If you needed to see a recovery coach, they were in the other 428 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,960 hallway. You could go over there and see them. If you were homeless and needed 429 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,640 housing support, you could see one of my case managers right then. In a typical 430 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,000 office setting, you can't just walk in and do that because you have to pass 431 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:19,720 through those insurance hoops, those paperwork hoops. What we did was carve 432 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,520 out time in the provider schedules that we could set aside for people to walk 433 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,480 in. We thought, I wonder if anyone's going to come. It isn't like I 434 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:31,760 advertised. 245 people walked through our doors 435 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,800 asking for help that we were able to serve. 135 of those were opiate primary 436 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,760 use disorder and that's what this grant funds were for. So, what did we do with 437 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,520 the remainder? We still serve them. It was just on our dime. 438 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,480 Your funds though went for caring for these individuals, for covering those 439 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,440 office visits that wouldn't have been able to be covered, for covering the 440 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,720 care from the case manager or the recovery coach that couldn't be accessed 441 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,400 unless we did all the hoops, barriers, and paperwork. 442 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:03,280 So, this is what this shows over the four quarters as far as the opiate 443 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:08,080 individuals that we served. Primary after the opiates was alcohol, 444 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,800 then methamphetamine, then cannabis and cocaine and some kratom use. Those are 445 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,080 the other substances that people came through our doors that sought help for 446 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,880 that we did help but not with these funds. 447 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Um, we did spend all of our money as well. 448 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Here's the program retention that we have. This is broken out by quarters. 449 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,480 This is showing how many people came in with opiate use disorder, how many were 450 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,280 able to engage in comprehensive services, meaning they stayed for the 451 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:36,760 whole gamut of care, and the retention at 30 days. We have a fairly high 452 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,960 retention rate of 82% means if you walked in and started care, you stayed 453 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:45,080 with us and received the remainder of your services. And currently, I checked 454 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:51,080 our numbers before we left, we're at 62 continued people, 62% continued care of 455 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:55,400 those people that entered this path this way. 456 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Just for interest, I like data. That's I'm the director, I need the data to see 457 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,000 what we're going to do and make sure that it's a productive program. So, uh 458 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,400 industry standard for retention at 30 days is 55%. You can see ours is 459 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:10,480 significantly increased from that. This just shows you also some age breakdown 460 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:15,440 as well. Um 42, 38, 36, and 36 years old. Those 461 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,840 are the average ages. So, if you think that substance use looks like an 462 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:25,760 18-year-old or a 60-year-old, it does, but this is the average of what came 463 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:30,000 through. Um of the 113 of the 135 people that we served also had co-occurring 464 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,400 mental health disorder, and that's also significant barrier. Sometimes when you 465 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,200 want to access care, they'll say, "Your mental health is too severe, we can't 466 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,120 help you. You have to get that figured out first." Or your physical health is 467 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,200 too significant, get that figured out, come back later. We just opened the 468 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,120 doors, opened the arms, and said, "Come in, we'll help you figure it out." Of 469 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:52,880 the mental health diagnosis that we saw, these are ranked in the order anxiety, 470 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:57,320 depression, PTSD, insomnia, and bipolar disorder. So, significant, 84% of 471 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,720 individuals also suffer from mental health. 472 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,560 I broke these out by quarters. This is boring. 473 00:32:01,792 --> 00:32:05,960 » [laughter] >> But there's the quarter each quarter 474 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,800 telling you what those are. It gives you the average age and all of that stats if 475 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,960 you really want to dive deep. This is an interesting statistic that I 476 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,040 pulled. The average person stru- struggling with substance use disorder 477 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,880 winds up going to the emergency room about three times a year because we 478 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,040 don't have established primary care, we're not engaged in a mental health or 479 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:29,040 substance use services, so we use the emergency room sort of as a stopgap. An 480 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,960 average ER visit is about six grand. If you go to the ER three times a year for 481 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,640 services that could have been done elsewhere, that's potential of 18,000. 482 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,240 My client average in this program was $416. 483 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,040 So, that's a significant savings when you enter into all of the care that we 484 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,160 have. We have case management. We can help with supportive housing, 485 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,760 transportation, all of those types of things. So, this is an example of what 486 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,920 the savings could be per individual that's struggling with substance use if 487 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:59,080 they knew where they could go and could access help the same day. 488 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,440 So, the grant funding helped remove all these delays between the walk-in need 489 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,440 and treatment access. You could walk in, you could get a clinical assessment, you 490 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:10,280 could get your medical care that same day, and open doors to any comprehensive 491 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:14,680 care that you may need. So, this was successful in my eyes in 492 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:19,920 that we had 82% retention, that we were able to serve 135 people, 493 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:24,800 and that 62% of them are still retained in treatment, that there could be a cost 494 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:28,360 savings for that as well. We would appreciate continued funding 495 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,760 and support for this because the system still exists with all the barriers, 496 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:35,520 hoops, and paperwork, and everybody else that accesses care without this still 497 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,680 has to go through those things. And that's a frustration, but not something 498 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,760 I can solve in a short time. And so, we would love 499 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,880 to continue to do that. However, we are excluded from the community foundation 500 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,160 as it's a 501c3 and religious organization. We're a private for-profit 501 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,720 agency, so I'm not eligible based on what I've seen so far to be able to 502 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:59,400 access future funds. So, I'm letting you know cuz that was one of the questions 503 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:03,520 that was asked. So, I do appreciate having the opportunity to have done 504 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,600 this. I consider it successful. It's just as Joel was saying, it's about 505 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,200 being compassionate, it's about being empathetic, it's about just listening 506 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:15,000 and everybody is a human, and they just need to have help. So, we provided that, 507 00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:17,919 and I appreciate the use of these to do so. Thank you. 508 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,480 » Thank you. Any questions from the board for Kimber? 509 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,320 » So, >> I saw you mentioned cocaine and there 510 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:28,960 was a large bust at Penn State University today. Like, I don't know, 14 511 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,080 people that were bringing in from Philly. 512 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,919 And I hadn't [clears throat] heard much about cocaine lately, but apparently 513 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,840 it's still still out there. >> You know, like everybody's got a 514 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,360 different use. Typically, when we do the statistics, alcohol is almost always the 515 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,560 primary problem that people seek treatment for year after year. 516 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:51,080 Um, but as far as will that kill you in a hurry? Not as much as a fentanyl 517 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:54,960 overdose will or as cocaine in a heart attack can. Um, so it tends to be a 518 00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:58,640 little bit of a slower thing. And what we're finding too is that people have 519 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:03,080 poly substance use. These days no one picks just one thing. Yeah, yeah. 520 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Fentanyl, I might do cocaine cuz at least I can find that. So there's 521 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:12,680 different, you know, pockets and places and people and things about that use. So 522 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760 trends are always changing. >> Thank you. 523 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,280 » Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? 524 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,560 Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. 525 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,360 » Anyone here from Sacred Heart? 526 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,360 Seeing none. 527 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,360 Motions in order to receive. >> So moved. 528 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000 » Support. >> All in favor? 529 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,480 » Aye. >> Opposed, seeing none. Motion carries. 530 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,920 The Bay County Department of Aging Advisory Committee. 531 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,360 We have a letter of his resignation from District 4 appointed resident 532 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:56,880 representative Kathy Sheriff Serafini whose term expires 533 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 December 31st, 2026. 534 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,440 » Move to receive. >> Go ahead. 535 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,320 » Motion to receive. >> Support. 536 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,960 » Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? 537 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,520 » Aye. >> Opposed, seeing none. Motion carries. 538 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:11,240 And number two, appointment of Carrie Stroh Kirsch for the District 4 539 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,960 appointed representative to the Bay County Department of Aging Advisory 540 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:19,520 Committee for the unexpiring term ending December 31st, 2026. 541 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,160 » Move to receive applicant and confirm appointment. 542 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,040 » Support. >> Motion has been made and supported. Is 543 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,920 there any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? 544 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,480 » Aye. >> Opposed, seeing none. Motion carries. 545 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,400 Reports >> and resolutions of the committees. 546 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,640 Committee of the whole August 4th meeting was cancelled. The committee of 547 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,680 the whole August 11th. Commissioner Creep. 548 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:44,080 » Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um Item one, resolution number 2026-154. 549 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,000 Health Department Food Locker's agreement 2026. 550 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,080 I move this resolution. >> Support. 551 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,920 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 552 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,720 See none, all in favor. >> I. 553 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:01,920 » I oppose, say none, motion carries. >> Item two, resolution 2026-155. 554 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,720 Bay Alerts vendor service agreement with Rave Mobile Safety 2026. 555 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680 I move this resolution. >> Support. 556 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,480 » Motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 557 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,840 See none, all in favor. >> I. 558 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:24,040 » I oppose, motion carries. >> Item three, resolution number 2026-156. 559 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:30,000 Agreement with Secure Removal Services LLC for body transport needs 2026. 560 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,000 I move this resolution. >> Support. 561 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,920 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 562 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,440 See none, all in favor. >> I. 563 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:44,800 » I oppose, say none, motion carries. >> Item four, resolution 2026-157. 564 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:48,560 Agreements with multimedia advertising companies for outreach and promotion 565 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,040 2026. I move this resolution. 566 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,960 » Support. >> A motion has been made and supported. Is 567 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,800 there any discussion? See none, all in favor. 568 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,280 » I. >> I oppose, say none, motion carries. 569 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:04,000 » Item number [snorts] five, resolution 2026-158. 570 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,880 Agreement with Datatrak policy management software 2026. 571 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,120 I move this resolution. >> Support. 572 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,520 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? See none, all in 573 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,440 favor. >> I. 574 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:22,480 » I oppose, say none, motion carries. >> Item number six, resolution 2026-159. 575 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:28,400 My Community Dental Centers agreement renewal 2026- 576 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,720 2027. I move this resolution. >> Support. 577 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,280 » A motion has been made supported is there any discussion? 578 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,840 See none all in favor. >> Aye. 579 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,240 » Opposed. [clears throat] Motion carries. >> Item number seven, resolution number 580 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:45,000 2026-160 plan of organization 2026 581 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,480 for the Health Department. I move this resolution. 582 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:49,360 » Support. >> A motion has been made supported is 583 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,520 there any discussion? See none all in favor. 584 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,280 » Aye. >> Opposed seeing none motion carries. 585 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,440 » Uh Item number eight, resolution 2026-161 586 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:05,360 Williams Township, Kawkawlin Township, and Hampton Township site agreements 587 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,880 2027 Department on Aging. I move this 588 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960 resolution. >> Support. 589 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:13,120 » A motion has been made supported is there any discussion? 590 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,000 See none all in favor. >> Aye. 591 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:21,880 » I oppose motion carries. >> Resolution number nine, resolution 592 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:26,120 2026-162 Bay County Department on Aging Advisory 593 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,600 Committee term limits. I move this resolution. 594 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,600 » Support. >> A motion has been made supported is 595 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,920 there any discussion? See none all in favor. 596 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:41,000 » Aye. >> Opposed seeing none motion carries. 597 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,000 » Item number 10, resolution 2026-163 598 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,000 release of RFP for exterior maintenance of the Bay County building. 599 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,240 I move this resolution. >> Support. 600 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,680 » A motion has been made supported is there any discussion? 601 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,840 See none all in favor signify by saying aye. 602 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,920 » Aye. >> Opposed seeing none motion carries. 603 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:05,760 » Item number 11 resolution 2026-164 604 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:09,960 budget adjustment and purchase of demo T mower for Bay County golf course. I 605 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120 move this resolution. >> Support. 606 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,560 » A motion has been made supported is there any discussion? 607 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,520 See none all in favor. >> Aye. 608 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:23,120 » Opposed seeing none motion carries. >> Item number 12, resolution 2026-165. 609 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:30,600 Annual review adjustment fund balance 610 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:34,960 budget stabilization fiscal year ending December 31, 2025. 611 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,160 I move this resolution. >> Support. 612 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,400 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 613 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,160 Seeing none, all in favor. >> Aye. 614 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:48,040 » I oppose seeing none, motion carries. >> Item number 13, resolution 2026-166. 615 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:55,440 Bid award RFP 2026-04 616 00:40:53,480 --> 00:41:00,000 for applicant tracking and onboarding solution to NeoGov. 617 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,040 I move this resolution. >> Support. 618 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,080 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 619 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,000 Seeing none, all in favor. >> Aye. 620 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:13,720 » I oppose seeing none, motion carries. >> Item number 14, resolution 2026-167. 621 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,600 Multi-year agreement for Palo Alto Networks maintenance 2026. 622 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,560 I move this resolution. >> Support. 623 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,360 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 624 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,960 Seeing none, all in favor. >> Aye. 625 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:32,640 » I oppose seeing none, motion carries. >> Item 15, resolution 2026-168. 626 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:41,880 Thomson Reuters Westlaw renewal agreement 2026 to 2029 627 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,840 with corporation counsel. I move this resolution. 628 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,440 » Support. >> A motion has been made and supported. Is 629 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,320 there any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor. 630 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:53,200 » Aye. >> I oppose seeing none, motion carries. 631 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,200 » And lastly, item number 16, resolution 2026-169. 632 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,920 Payables. I move this resolution. >> Support. 633 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,680 » A motion has been made and supported. Is there any discussion? 634 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,480 Seeing none, all in favor. >> Aye. 635 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:11,480 » I oppose seeing none, motion carries. >> Thank you, Commissioner Creek. 636 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,960 Board of Commissioners, Commissioner Biggs. 637 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,080 » I move resolution number >> 2026-170, 638 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,400 reports of the county executive. July 2026. Move that resolution. 639 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,040 » Support. >> Motion has been made supported. Is there 640 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,960 any discussion? See none. All in favor? 641 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:32,920 » Aye. >> Opposed? See none. Motion carries. 642 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:39,000 » Resolution number 2026-171. Big County TV sponsorship agreement 643 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,000 renewal, 2026-2029. 644 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160 Finance space. >> City TV. 645 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,240 » I move that resolution. >> Support. 646 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,160 » Motion has been made supported. Is there any discussion? See none. All in favor? 647 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:53,840 » Aye. >> Opposed? See none. Motion carries. 648 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:58,840 » Resolution number 2026-172. Travel request to attend Michigan 649 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:02,720 Guardianship Association fall 2026 conference. Department of Aging. Move 650 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,720 that resolution. >> Support. 651 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,560 » Motion has been made supported. Is there any discussion? 652 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,440 See none. All in favor? >> Aye. 653 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,440 » Opposed? See none. Motion carries. 654 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:16,120 Thank you, Commissioner Biggeck. >> Yep. 655 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,960 » Reports of the county officials. Seems like Mr. Barcia is not here today. 656 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,920 » No, he's excused. >> Okay, thank you. Any commissioners' 657 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:27,600 comments on unfinished business? 658 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:31,800 » Motion to approve the recommendation of outside counsel Ted Seats as discussed 659 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:36,360 during the closed session held at the August 11, 2026 Committee of the Whole 660 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:39,880 meeting and to approve the recommended budget adjustment. 661 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,120 » Support. >> Motion has been made supported. All in 662 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,600 favor? >> Aye. 663 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:49,400 » Opposed? See none. Motion carries. Uh new business. Any new business? 664 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,400 Public input. This is the second time for public input. Anyone wish to address 665 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,800 the commission? Going once. Going twice. Public input is 666 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,240 closed. Miscellaneous. I think Nick's got some 667 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,800 video on some projects that we have working on. 668 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,760 Yes, go ahead, Kristen. >> So, obviously, this is the 669 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:16,040 » pool, almost all of the cement is done. They're reinforcing that wall and that 670 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,640 is where the plumbing is going to head into the basement. 671 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:25,040 They're starting to do some gutter work. They're starting to put the mechanical 672 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:28,800 stuff. This is the basement. Um, in that's filtration, sand filters and 673 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:34,240 things of that nature. Uh, the basement's all cleaned up and 674 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:38,680 ready to go and we are moving along. Yet this fall you'll see the concrete 675 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:42,880 decking poured, the pavilion up. Obviously the gutters done in the pool. 676 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,240 And then they'll be um 677 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:48,280 And then as it turns into winter they'll take a small break and then they'll 678 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:53,080 continue in the spring for an opening in June 20 of 27. 679 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:57,560 So that's sort of the schedule. This is the animal services. 680 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,640 It is cruising along as well. They're putting the EIFS on the outside. 681 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:06,160 They're already starting some finishing work on the inside, some drywall and 682 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:10,400 things of that nature. Windows are in, most of the windows are in, door frames 683 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,920 are in. We're going to be sealed up here pretty 684 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:16,960 soon. Uh, roof 685 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,520 The roof is either done or going to be done this week and 686 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,680 um And it's certain it's starting to look 687 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,520 really good. All the interior masonry is done. 688 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,520 Um So 689 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,080 It looks different every single day. They are working so quickly. 690 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:42,320 This is sort of a picture of the lobby. >> It's going to be a nice looking 691 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,600 building. >> It is. It's 692 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,600 a great building. 693 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:57,520 » Is that retention pond to the south going to 694 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,240 just be kind of empty most of the time or is that going to have 695 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,680 » I hope it'll be empty most of the time but it will 696 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,920 » Just a divot most of the time, then? >> I'm hoping so. Obviously, it's there 697 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,520 because it's required, you know, by code and um 698 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:12,400 I'm hoping it's something most of the time, you know. 699 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,400 » It's kind of wonky. Yeah. >> I I mean, it's required every, you know, 700 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,800 in all these projects. It's a requirement and 701 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,080 um but 702 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,000 » Mhm. >> Any questions for Kristen? 703 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,360 » Mhm. >> Thank you, Kristen. Thank you, Nick. 704 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:35,560 » Thank you. >> Are there any announcements? 705 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:39,960 » I have one. Senior Olympics are coming up. Sign up is fast approaching. It's in 706 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,320 October. Got some schmear and bid euchre and 707 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:49,200 regular euchre and Mexican chain dominoes and shuffleboard 708 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,760 and I wish I could do more, but I'm I'm busy 709 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,760 that week. 710 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,640 » Thank you. We got a couple appointments coming up 711 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,920 in October. We have a Bay County Department of Human Services one 712 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:06,640 three-year expiring, Jill Schmidt, and Land Bank Authority one City of Bay City 713 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,080 representative three-year term expiring, as Thurston. 714 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,040 Uh closed session. Amber, is there any need for closed session? 715 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,680 » Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Chair, I would request motion to go into closed session 716 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:20,360 pursuant to MCL 15.2681E to consult with council regarding 717 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:25,000 litigation and or settlement strategies in the ongoing Gary Rujeski worker's 718 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:28,840 compensation matter. Required to attend in addition to the board members is 719 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:34,160 Tiffany Jerry, our personnel director, Scott Kruskie, our finance officer, Alex 720 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:39,320 Poirier, board advisor, Lindy Arsenault, board coordinator, myself as council, 721 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,920 and obviously our clerk. Katie's not here. 722 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,520 » Yeah. >> So moved. 723 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,200 » Support. >> Support. 724 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,320 » Roll call. >> Seger? 725 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560 » Absent. >> Beeson? 726 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,640 » Yes. >> Brent? 727 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,640 » Yes. >> Docket? 728 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,640 » Yes. >> Kreet? 729 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,640 » Yes. >> Nemec? 730 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,400 » Yes. >> Panagiotis? 731 00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:00,840 » Yes. >> Um I'd like to make a motion to follow 732 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:06,040 the recommendation of outside counsel regarding ongoing Gary Rojewski workers 733 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,720 compensation matter. >> Support. 734 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,920 » For any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? 735 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,080 » Aye. >> Motion now motion carries. 736 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,480 Motion to adjourn. >> Support. 737 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,840 » All in favor? >> Aye. 738 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,080 » Meeting adjourned. >> All right.