1 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:46,270 So what you guys are signing in, we're going to start because we have a 12 o'clock. So so sorry. 2 00:00:46,590 --> 00:00:50,770 So you guys could just sign in whoever's here, just make sure you sign in. And then we're just 3 00:00:50,770 --> 00:00:51,770 going to start real quick. 4 00:00:56,140 --> 00:00:56,820 We have I.E. Nice. 5 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Well planned. I know. 6 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,060 Hello, everyone. Welcome 7 00:01:19,060 --> 00:01:23,400 Welcome to a development and review committee meeting August 13, 20, 20, 26. 8 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,960 Let's stand for the pledges just to the flag. 9 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,420 Okay, so we're going to do a roll call. 10 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:51,040 I'm Lorraine Debelle, town planner. 11 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:54,100 You need these Martinez, building department manager. 12 00:01:55,620 --> 00:01:57,220 Brandi Daniel, town engineer. 13 00:01:58,180 --> 00:02:08,640 Okay, today review and discussion of a site plan application by 92, 91, ebh limited to construct a new 33 unit multifamily development. 14 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,820 to be located at 9291 through 9301 East Bay Harbor Drive. 15 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:19,880 Includes are the site plans and staff reports prepared by me. 16 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,660 So we're going to start off with building with their comments. 17 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,280 On behalf of the chief building official, Alexander Garcia, he reviewed the plans that were submitted, 18 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:33,100 and building has approved no comments. 19 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Next, we have Randy Daniels, engineering comments. 20 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,560 I think it'd be so easy. 21 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:40,540 Good morning. 22 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,280 As I was talking to, 23 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,760 forget your name, 24 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:46,340 so my comments 25 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:51,080 were based on the last meeting obviously. 26 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,360 At that meeting, 27 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:54,540 the engineer who was here, 28 00:02:54,660 --> 00:02:57,020 and I'm not sure if I had a call with him on the phone 29 00:02:57,380 --> 00:02:58,860 or if he was here in person, 30 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,200 but we talked about 31 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,040 the system sort of holding water. 32 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:10,980 And I was a little concerned that the system with whole water indefinitely for a long period 33 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:11,440 of time. 34 00:03:11,620 --> 00:03:14,000 And I said to him, see if you can avoid that. 35 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,860 And that's sort of where we left that off. 36 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:16,540 Right. 37 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:18,540 So, were you, what do we tend to know? 38 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:20,600 My name is sort of, my name is Rodrigo Bermuda. 39 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,180 I work with Ford and Levy Skiles who is the OR for the, for that part of the project. 40 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:29,000 So, I wasn't here. 41 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,720 here, I wasn't, I didn't, my boss was who had that discussion with you. I'm aware of 42 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,040 the situation. So the situation is at the downstream defender, which we are proposing for 43 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,620 the pollution. It works like that. So the invert elevation for the inflow is lower than 44 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:51,800 the invert elevation for the outflow. That's why the pipe is, the pipe going north south 45 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:58,680 on the project will be always below the outflow invert elevation. And that's why it's 46 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,420 going to retain the water because that's how the system works. 47 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,860 So I need an email on that because in my opinion, I can't see how that would make a lot 48 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:09,580 of sense. 49 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Send me the information please. 50 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,500 Are you a P? 51 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:13,500 I'm a P. 52 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Yes. 53 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:19,040 Send me the information with the brochure for the defender system. 54 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,900 I need to look at that. 55 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:20,820 It's on the plants. 56 00:04:20,900 --> 00:04:21,440 I have it here. 57 00:04:21,460 --> 00:04:22,540 If you want to review it. 58 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:23,560 I don't know. 59 00:04:23,940 --> 00:04:24,980 Just make it easy for me. 60 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:29,720 If you can send the brochure for the defender system to tell me how it works, I can look 61 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,000 at it at a day and we can have a solution to that today. 62 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,520 But for now, that's the only thing holding me up for approving this project, just to 63 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:36,860 be clear. 64 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:43,280 That's the only item that we talked about last week, last time we met Julie Leverler. 65 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:48,400 And we were supposed to have had this conversation before this meeting. 66 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,160 But we haven't it now, which is okay. 67 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:58,660 but I do need to see the information regarding the defender box and what the 68 00:04:58,660 --> 00:05:05,560 manufacturers of it intended for how they intend for it to operate. It was 69 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,920 sent before I can send it again of course no problem with that. It was sent. I'm 70 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,040 not doubting that at all but if you can recently just to make it easier for me to 71 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,480 access it would probably be a bit to I believe it to this 72 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,500 around probably to day once I can read it and with a phone 73 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:25,840 number who I can call to discuss it if I have questions 74 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,120 understood can 75 00:05:30,970 --> 00:05:34,610 you show you no I mean he has it but you want me 76 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:39,290 to resend it yeah okay is it here in plans to show you so at 77 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:41,350 the meeting you guys can have a discussion because we're on a 78 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:45,730 time limit to 12 so that could be at this meeting if rainy has 79 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:48,470 time you guys can sit with him if you want to do that the 80 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:56,250 meaning over. No, I'm not prepared to do that right now, but you have my assurance that once it's 81 00:05:56,250 --> 00:06:01,890 sent to me again, you said you sent it, I haven't seen it. I don't want to mix with a bunch of plans 82 00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:07,370 I have to shift to the data. Make it easy for me. I just need to see the data for the defender. That's 83 00:06:07,370 --> 00:06:13,310 what I'm interested in. What the defender system is about, how it works, and how the detailed 84 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:21,470 sure of the of the product. Yes, it's actually here. Yes, okay. I'm not going to make any guarantees, but let me take a look at it. 85 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:26,230 So let's go ahead. I can come back and. Okay. 86 00:06:26,430 --> 00:06:37,610 Just for the record, Matt Amster, with the Berk Howard, Alfred end of Zlarkin and tap it as applicant for the, sorry, attorney for the applicant. And what I just handed is a letter from 87 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:50,430 I believe it was shared at least discussed in those prior conversations, but it was included in our response narrative. 88 00:06:52,110 --> 00:06:54,010 So we can re-centred to you again. 89 00:06:54,430 --> 00:07:03,430 So to be clear, Matt, on the podium respect, the last time we met on June 11, I guess you were here, just came up and I said I did not. 90 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:10,410 I was against that condition to be allowed in the town, the engineer at the time, I'm not 91 00:07:10,410 --> 00:07:14,410 sure if it was who it was, I might have spoken to him on the phone and he said he was going 92 00:07:14,410 --> 00:07:15,310 to look into it. 93 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:16,070 Michael, that's great. 94 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:19,310 Okay, that's how we left it off on June 11th. 95 00:07:19,810 --> 00:07:24,470 So I, this could have been a submitter, I'm not saying it wasn't, but all I'm saying is that 96 00:07:24,470 --> 00:07:28,730 he said I told him what my concern was and he said he was going to look into it and that's 97 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:29,570 where we left it off. 98 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:31,330 So I haven't heard back from him. 99 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:34,510 So I don't know, you know, I can look at this again. 100 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:36,970 I mean, all this says is that this is how it's going to work, 101 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:39,750 but the engineer hasn't really spoken to me about 102 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:43,930 another system or something else that we can use. 103 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:46,750 I haven't had that conversation because to be clear, 104 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:49,430 the way this is going to work, if there's a high tide, 105 00:07:49,870 --> 00:07:51,770 not if when there's a high tide, 106 00:07:52,290 --> 00:07:56,610 this our system is going to be totally submerged in a high tide. 107 00:07:57,430 --> 00:08:03,930 Okay, so the entire system is being designed to hold water, I'm going to say perpetually 108 00:08:03,930 --> 00:08:06,090 because it's going to always have water in it. 109 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:11,310 Now, the good thing is, I guess, with the flow, the tide is going to ever move, so there's 110 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:17,030 not going to be stagnant water, okay, that's probably a good thing, but there's going to 111 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:17,750 be water in that pipe. 112 00:08:17,750 --> 00:08:23,890 I'm not sure how it's going to affect the capacity of set pipe to drain into the bee because 113 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:27,470 And if it's hold in water, then how much water is it going to be able to discharge once 114 00:08:27,470 --> 00:08:28,150 there's an event? 115 00:08:28,650 --> 00:08:32,350 So, that's sort of where I'm going with this concern, okay? 116 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:33,890 I'm not saying it can't work. 117 00:08:34,090 --> 00:08:38,010 All I'm saying is that I need to understand how it is going to work. 118 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:39,990 And those are all I'm saying. 119 00:08:40,130 --> 00:08:45,030 And based on the last meeting we had, the engineer promised me to look into it and have a conversation 120 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:45,550 with me. 121 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:46,910 But not with this. 122 00:08:46,970 --> 00:08:48,670 This was submitted before, like you said, in me. 123 00:08:48,670 --> 00:08:55,890 But we also resummitted it with our response narrative for prior to this meeting, right? 124 00:08:56,090 --> 00:09:00,690 Our response narrative includes that there's a letter with that, not just the 125 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:00,790 presentation. 126 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:01,390 I have nothing yet. 127 00:09:01,450 --> 00:09:04,370 I was dated post June 11th. 128 00:09:04,370 --> 00:09:08,110 He didn't reissue the letter, but we submitted it as part of our... 129 00:09:08,110 --> 00:09:12,290 I guess he didn't tell me the truth at that time because on the June 11th meeting, he said 130 00:09:12,290 --> 00:09:14,350 he's going to look into it and get back in. 131 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:18,010 And we have the passage. 132 00:09:18,010 --> 00:09:32,210 With you regarding that, but I just want to make sure it's clear in the record that we have submitted that prior to this meeting to address the concern if there's more questions and a need to clarify and fine tune will reach out to you to do so. 133 00:09:32,930 --> 00:09:44,250 Understood and for the record on the June 11th meeting, I was promised that I would have had a conversation or we see further information from the engineer on said defender system which has not occurred. 134 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:49,850 So, to be clear, I will now go down and look at this information a little more carefully 135 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:56,550 and see how best I can understand it and how best I think it can work for the ton of 136 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:56,830 e-hob. 137 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,130 And we'll have a day to reach out to you as well. 138 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:06,070 But I will look into it and see what I think. 139 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:11,030 I will look at it and see how best she waits applicable. 140 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:16,350 But I don't even, you know, I got, I had not studied this, you know, I was only 141 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:20,550 concerned about the water retention in the system. That was my concern. But now 142 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:26,290 that you've sort of asked me to look into this on my own, I will, I will look into it and 143 00:10:26,290 --> 00:10:32,230 see what I think. And I'll let you all know. Azulia study. I don't want to delay this 144 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:36,530 project anymore. No, it's been there for a while. We appreciate that. Yeah, I will look at it 145 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:42,610 the and get back who should I get back to? Can I have your phone number, please? 146 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:43,910 Sir, I have a car. 147 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:54,870 Yeah, the office number is 305. Yeah, I prefer a cell phone. Okay, 148 00:10:54,950 --> 00:11:01,090 seven, eight, six, seven, eight, six, three, zero, zero, nine, one, nine, six. 149 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:17,710 R-O-D-S-N-D-R-I-G-O, last name, B-E-R-M-U-D-S-N-D-E-Z. 150 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:22,550 correct. Would you go I will get a hold of you later today and we will have a conversation. 151 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:23,610 Thank you. 152 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Okay so now we're going to do zoning comments. 153 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Before we move on. 154 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:41,380 Randy if you could there was I believe an understanding has been obtained now on the separate matter 155 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:48,880 of sewer that I believe your your yes let me address that. Agreeing with our general teams 156 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:54,800 is understanding. Well let's make sure about that. The last meeting we agreed to move forward on 157 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,560 conditional as a conditional approval for the project and the conditions were not really 158 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:06,820 spelled out at the meeting. What I did subsequently that meeting I sent an email to the 159 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:14,680 building official to clarify what my concerns were with Sue. And that email I have since forwarded 160 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:19,900 I guess to this team, outlining what I was looking for. 161 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:29,680 So, I don't have the email handy, but it speaks to the hydraulic model at the town is in the process of doing. 162 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:37,540 Once the model is completed, the developer will run the model for the project. 163 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:45,600 And if there are any issues arising out of that computation from the model, the developer 164 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:53,900 is an agreement to make whatever modifications to our system that will be required to facilitate 165 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:54,500 the project. 166 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,780 That's sort of the condition of this approval. 167 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,500 We want to make sure that this is just written. 168 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Do you want us to write this conditional language or is that something that you would write? 169 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,160 I would suggest I think in going forward we should have it written up and signed off on so it's 170 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:28,660 clear to all to both parties. Okay, we can we'll propose it simply an email probably the quickest way 171 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:37,600 to have you review. Yeah, we can do that. But I again, I would suggest we have something legally prepared 172 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,300 unsigned as my opinion how we should go forward. Well, it's a conditional approval 173 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:57,400 So, instead of, you know, like on your, can't, can't there be a list of conditions in the report that is, you know, voted on by the DRC, I'm trying to. 174 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,260 That way it's directly in the record. 175 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,400 As you were just saying, I'll give, I'll have to get back to you with that one. 176 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:15,420 Um, um, I don't see an issue because I do have some, like, I made a list just for planning because the way. 177 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Right. So the way that I believe that the process would continue forward, right to memorialize. 178 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:26,040 We move forward after DRC with a condition where the next step or DRB, 179 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:34,660 which has a final resolution that has conditions, right? This condition is not going to be resolved unless your modeling happens in a month. 180 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,740 You know, in a short period of time, so I think that would be, then we have a condition 181 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:47,260 that we're just carrying forward that the DRB would include in their approval, right? 182 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Because you're going to have a review at that time as well, I mean, it's mostly because 183 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,240 of our understanding here of approving technical review at the DRC that that's part of the 184 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,900 the history of the project. 185 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,880 That gets memorialized in a condition in the resolution. I guess we couldn't discuss that until, you know, I'm not sure if there's precedence for that. Correct. Yeah, we'll get back to you on that one today. Definitely. It's also an email. Um, was there any other engineer comments you guys? No, not at this stage. Okay. The stage project is remains disapproved until I can go through the stormwater documents in front of me right now. To be clear. Okay. And 186 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,400 but hopefully we can get that resolved by the end of business today. 187 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,300 Thank you. 188 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:35,060 Thank you. 189 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,180 So we're planning in zoning. 190 00:15:38,420 --> 00:15:40,720 I'm going to start in page three of the comments. 191 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:42,800 So this is under the documents. 192 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:55,210 So just with this sustainability and new elements. 193 00:15:55,490 --> 00:15:59,870 I only ask that because currently people have a lot of electric bikes, 194 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:00,990 electric scooters. 195 00:16:01,450 --> 00:16:06,390 So I just want to point out are you guys, I guess, have a location for that? 196 00:16:06,390 --> 00:16:10,370 is not required by code, but I know a lot of buildings do not want it in the apartments. 197 00:16:11,090 --> 00:16:14,990 So that's why I'm just highlighting. So I know you guys were to respond that it will be amended 198 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:20,090 during, but what amending are you doing? So it's like a yes and no. That's all I want. So if you're 199 00:16:20,090 --> 00:16:26,250 not doing any like extra, you know, electric car station or any charging for any electric bike, 200 00:16:26,450 --> 00:16:31,530 that's the new thing, electric bikes, electric scooters, most currently developments that are open 201 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:36,110 now do not want that in apartments. So I just want to point that out now. So if you guys are not 202 00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:41,310 add in it, that's fine. I just wanted to let it be known. So moving forward, it's not a surprise. 203 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:48,730 So that's for I, for one. So you're mainly concerned about bike storage? 204 00:16:49,950 --> 00:16:56,990 What electrical bikes are. Yes. So we currently are the town getting calls because a lot of the 205 00:16:56,990 --> 00:17:00,630 properties currently do not allow them in their apartments because you know obviously calls is whatever 206 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:05,410 fire or stuff like that. So we just want to point that out. Therefore in the future, if you guys 207 00:17:05,410 --> 00:17:10,190 have to provide that you guys will have a location so it's not required by 208 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:15,510 code but I just wanted to point that out for the development. So I have a 209 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:19,210 question for you. I think this is basically about right what you would be 210 00:17:19,210 --> 00:17:23,710 able to accept as a change that I get the building permit time right is that I 211 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:28,310 believe the concern that's really besides the just practical nature of you know 212 00:17:28,310 --> 00:17:32,370 people may want this if we don't show it in the plan now right I think that 213 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:34,470 what you're calling out, correct you if I'm wrong, right? 214 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:34,730 Yes. 215 00:17:34,790 --> 00:17:40,090 You know, there would be a change after approval in the permit. 216 00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:41,790 And then I'd say that that can't happen. 217 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:46,010 I'm just sort of asking if that is a- 218 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:46,950 Well, it depends on the change. 219 00:17:47,730 --> 00:17:50,650 So just thinking that, did you guys have an area that- 220 00:17:51,170 --> 00:17:54,010 So the property has, because remember, 221 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:56,470 we were reduced from 33 to 32 units. 222 00:17:57,310 --> 00:18:00,670 So that actually means that we have more parking than necessary. 223 00:18:01,050 --> 00:18:01,290 OK. 224 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:07,690 So I'm not committing to this. I'm just saying it could be that a parking space or two could be 225 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:09,270 repurposed for 226 00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:11,890 Bike storage charging etc 227 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:17,810 Bike racks, so yeah, whatever. Okay, so parking is not that bad. I just didn't want like a whole room 228 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:22,750 Because I don't know. I want to know. I want to hold them to it. Yeah, but if that a change 229 00:18:23,410 --> 00:18:28,870 That you feel that you could approve. Yeah, I can change the parking spot. So okay, so now that we know that yeah 230 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:32,970 For now, we're not going to show, but I think that that seems to be the way to address that. 231 00:18:33,090 --> 00:18:33,210 Yes. 232 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:36,990 And thank you for raising the, again, practical nature of it. 233 00:18:37,090 --> 00:18:39,010 I want to make sure that we're not headed for a problem. 234 00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:41,630 And they have to go ahead and put it in. 235 00:18:41,630 --> 00:18:41,730 Correct. 236 00:18:41,730 --> 00:18:43,670 When everything comes back, they contact the town. 237 00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:46,510 And then they come after, you know, not come after us, 238 00:18:46,510 --> 00:18:49,830 explain why that wasn't thought about during a review process. 239 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:51,890 So another thing is the analysis. 240 00:18:52,270 --> 00:18:54,550 So I did read the email between Keith Richardson. 241 00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:58,790 So that was impact fees, not concurrency review. 242 00:18:59,470 --> 00:19:01,410 So I did call him when I did review. 243 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:05,270 So impact fees in currency review are two different things. 244 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:08,510 What's there, but there's, they're related in that 245 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:09,730 what is an impact fee? 246 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:13,070 It's what is the development that's new 247 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:16,110 and its impact on all kinds of fees, right? 248 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:20,870 It's mobility and school and at the town level, 249 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:22,590 there's, you know, parks, et cetera. 250 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:28,630 there are correct, but this is just for like the word of flow, the pressure and 251 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:34,610 currently you have a vacant lot. So the town won't be taking like we okay so 252 00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:37,790 you have the county but within the town we don't take impact fees and the 253 00:19:37,790 --> 00:19:42,410 currency as the same. So currently you have a vacant lot. So you have no 254 00:19:42,410 --> 00:19:45,410 word of flow that we can actually look within a year or two to see what was the 255 00:19:45,410 --> 00:19:50,130 pressure for our current use of our pipes. So the lot's been one lot's been 256 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:55,530 big and full over 10 years. So putting putting that smaller a lot that's only for units aside. 257 00:19:56,990 --> 00:20:02,370 The here's my big picture and if we need to I don't want this to take the time away from 258 00:20:02,370 --> 00:20:08,930 addressing the architectural comments. Yes. So really hope that we can move this entire project forward. 259 00:20:09,650 --> 00:20:17,190 But you know we are levels of service is based on impact which is how many units that you have. 260 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:21,550 That's water flow, that's trips on the roads, you know, and the et cetera. 261 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:27,910 So that, to me, a level of service is treated the same way from what we're talking about, right? 262 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:28,830 What was there before? 263 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:36,950 So as an example, not the only thing that I can point to is that Mr. Richardson at the county 264 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:44,050 who does impact fees, goes back a very long time to 1989 and 1992 records that they have to 265 00:20:44,050 --> 00:20:49,730 figure out pre-existing credit for impacts on the roads, right? 266 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:56,510 The roads did not automatically shrink and change just because a building was demolished. 267 00:20:56,710 --> 00:21:01,190 And so they're very generous, I get it, you know, but that's how they handle it, and 268 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:03,630 that's specified in the county. 269 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:10,150 The town is actually located in the county and those impact fees do apply to all the county 270 00:21:10,150 --> 00:21:14,570 one's which again mobility is a great benefit to the town by having those 271 00:21:14,570 --> 00:21:20,870 fees paid and come back to help for you know roadway improvements over time 272 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:29,130 probably to the bridge to so those are that's a great way to show that there 273 00:21:29,130 --> 00:21:33,350 is a acknowledgement of the credit and what's happened here this is this 274 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:37,650 property owner purchased this both these properties to combine them together to 275 00:21:37,650 --> 00:21:42,970 come forward, you know that we've been working on this for two and a half years, more probably. 276 00:21:44,590 --> 00:21:45,790 And what did they do? 277 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:50,010 They just an anticipation, a redevelopment, they demolished the building. 278 00:21:50,130 --> 00:21:55,150 They made a business decision to determine whether they hold onto an aging building, keep 279 00:21:55,150 --> 00:22:01,630 up the maintenance, or demolish it in the hopes of, and we haven't gotten there yet, that 280 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:02,830 this new project would be built. 281 00:22:02,830 --> 00:22:09,570 it's not like it was done eons ago and there truly is no more impact the number of units is 282 00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:14,670 definitely well-known and documented so we can easily and we have we provided the impact 283 00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:21,090 assessment for that. We've also reviewed state law about levels of service the town's code as well 284 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:27,910 as the county and we do not see anything that says that you can't recognize this. I wasn't and then in 285 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:36,750 And the typical way of let's go to school concurrency and levels of service, the existing 286 00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:43,850 buildings that are there before are always been utilized for assessment of the net difference. 287 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:51,050 So I was just giving you an example that from the county's perspective, they will. 288 00:22:51,250 --> 00:22:53,510 And I reached out to a different person who does traffic. 289 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:59,130 And I think that this still relates to our, we have yet to get a traffic meeting that 290 00:22:59,130 --> 00:23:02,070 is about trips that is also going to be about this issue. 291 00:23:02,290 --> 00:23:07,930 What do we do for an analysis of the net change on this property? 292 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:12,050 And I'd like to add, I did talk to the finance director. 293 00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:16,890 I think that also sheds light on what we're really talking about. 294 00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:25,190 But these are not units that were, again, eons, old, and gone that this is a vacant property. 295 00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:32,670 The roads that are there today and all of the systems in place, right, your sewer, water 296 00:23:32,670 --> 00:23:38,850 and sewer capacity, all of those things accounted for those units, just because they are temporarily 297 00:23:38,850 --> 00:23:43,790 not there at the moment doesn't mean that they did not exist and that the capacity isn't 298 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:44,890 there for them today. 299 00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:53,530 Okay, so that is our so my concern is at least that much more recent unit count. 300 00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:59,270 Okay, so my concern with this is the water flow, the sewer and the waste. 301 00:24:00,030 --> 00:24:02,910 So that's when I'm stating that the law is vacant. 302 00:24:02,970 --> 00:24:09,690 So you can't use the number of old units that was there for the water flow. 303 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:12,530 When technically the building doesn't exist right now. 304 00:24:12,530 --> 00:24:42,510 There's no building so we don't even have any calculations within the couple of years to see how much water pressure, how much water flow can the current pipes we have now the current system we have now hold that now when the buildings were there now we have so much development going on right now that already took over the supply we have now so you're now building a new building so when I'm stating that but impact fees doesn't count towards this is the concurrency we need to 305 00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:46,570 do the water pressure flow. You guys account on a building doesn't exist. It will be zero because 306 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:51,350 currently we have nothing to compare it to. So that's my main concern, not really the road, 307 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:56,350 the road that would be reviewed when we have our traffic, you know, engineer, but in the concurrency 308 00:24:56,350 --> 00:25:02,370 review, literally everyone does it at Dickhonson County, every other city, even Miami, well, 309 00:25:02,610 --> 00:25:06,370 what's next again, North Miami Beach, they usually have a spreadsheet which you're working on. 310 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:11,270 So you have your current. The current will be what building is there. Currently you have no 311 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:17,990 water flow, no sewer, no waste is zero. So it will be zero, and then your proposal will be what 312 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:23,450 you're proposing in the building. So I think that's my main concern, which it's not really about 313 00:25:23,450 --> 00:25:27,690 the road, because that will be our traffic review or review in that. What I'm talking about is the 314 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:32,150 spreadsheet that shows that it says current water flow, like the pressure, the calculation. 315 00:25:32,770 --> 00:25:37,370 Currently, you have no buildings, should be zero. So I think that's what I'm more concerned about, 316 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:44,230 not the road. So you're going to treat things differently based on the type of analysis, 317 00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:50,250 which I don't think is. It's not true differently. It's a big and lot. Well, but my 318 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,500 concern is that we're picking and 319 00:25:55,500 --> 00:26:01,720 choosing the way that the analysis is done when it's all about levels of service and the impact that is 320 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,420 happening on the levels of service. And I think that this is current. The current level of service. So literally 321 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:17,220 I don't know who you contacted besides Keith at the county, but I also reached out to you know other so you have to reach out to the public works department. They don't want to do the water and sewer. 322 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,620 Okay, so maybe we can, like I said, I want to get to the architectural. 323 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,340 Okay, so but back to the traffic meeting. 324 00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:36,800 Yeah, so I just talked to the finance director, our attorney was reviewing the contract, which we was just we had some things that needed to review. 325 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,800 We've been. 326 00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:39,700 Yes. 327 00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:42,600 Respectfully you have our very large deposit. 328 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:43,780 Yes. 329 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,780 For months. 330 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,380 And we are trying to get this project to move on to DRB. 331 00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:55,820 I don't even know where what is ahead of us because we even haven't haven't had this meeting between the traffic engineers. 332 00:26:55,820 --> 00:27:15,140 And I appreciate I know it's yes, I know some of these things are out of your hand, but I am working as fast. I assure you I've been on and every day trying to get the answer fully before it is me and after I do inspections, I'll go back and see what is the answer to that. 333 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,920 We can move on to the architecture comments. 334 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:27,760 Okay, so this is on page six. We could start with yeah, so we'll just page six number one on the sea wall the permits expired. 335 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:36,960 So we would need to update for that update. Yeah, you just guys need to just reopen the permit. 336 00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:42,540 It was expired. I believe a week or two ago, so there was no activities on that. 337 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:50,670 So just number two, this is just the outline of what would be a separate permit. 338 00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:54,890 So we typically only put that once we submit to the building department for permit. 339 00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:59,190 This wouldn't go in our DRC package or planning work. 340 00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:02,090 So I required that on here, there's always no surprises. 341 00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:04,210 So for some reason, not the blame people. 342 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:09,450 When people go to DRC and DRB is usually a different contractor, a different person, and 343 00:28:09,450 --> 00:28:11,670 they're surprised that something requires a separate permit. 344 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:15,210 Usually, the only thing that pulls a window in your apartment, the contractor. 345 00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:20,190 It's like, we have an issue with retained walls, people are building them and no permit. 346 00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:24,770 We're having issues with driveways, people are not submitting the driveway permit, fence 347 00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:27,830 permit, everyone's building it and not submitting the separate permit. 348 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:32,310 Suggestions of knowledge, therefore, if you're not the whoever's doing the, you know, the 349 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:34,390 work of building, there's no surprises. 350 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:36,750 That's perfectly fine. 351 00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:38,150 Okay. 352 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:39,970 Okay, so number two, 353 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:47,320 oh, okay, so a number three on page A101, I just want to be clear 354 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,400 there's two different color grays. 355 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,460 That all, both of them count as a driveway, okay, okay, that was just more of a question 356 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:53,800 ask. 357 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:55,040 Not really a comment. 358 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,220 And then on the next part, I had a question, okay, you're asking for the areas. 359 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,900 We provided overall areas as in this is the amount of green space, landscape on the roof 360 00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:07,280 and this is the usable area. 361 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,560 So which question is that one? 362 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,620 that's can you please provide square footage of each area for the rooftop a of a 101. 363 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,960 Correct so the green space and make sure it all equals a 15% but I provided it in a table on the 364 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:26,080 right on the sheet. So I just want to clarify if you want to identify each one. Yes that's 365 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,660 I'm going to say each one sorry you met yeah so label each one. That's only to be clear because just 366 00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:37,140 in case sometimes people do have to rearrange the roof and therefore we just know the percentage 367 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:39,920 of each green area that will be just rearranged. 368 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:42,760 Yeah, because we labeled it, but okay. 369 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,340 We'll note every single. 370 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,960 And it's really just the green that you need. 371 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,440 Just the green. 372 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,720 And I was fine. 373 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:49,580 Okay. 374 00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:50,480 Number four. 375 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,260 On page A2.00, it shows, I guess, 376 00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:57,340 it states that FDC signage is off the property. 377 00:29:57,820 --> 00:29:59,800 Just put the sign within the property line. 378 00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:35,600 Okay. Yeah. Oh, since we're on this page, also, so the fence, DET, discussion number three, 379 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,160 the wall, where exactly is that? Oh, it's a side. Yeah. Because then that was my other 380 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,820 question somewhere down here, because it points out to two and not three. Okay. Three and 381 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:49,460 three two is somewhere else. Okay. Then I can use e-dress because I was trying to figure 382 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:54,460 out because then I looked at the elevation and it shows in on the side. So that was a comment somewhere 383 00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:57,380 down here. Yeah, that's correct. Oh yeah, that was number five. Okay. 384 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,080 Okay, number six is basically, 385 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,180 I'll just move that down to a knowledge man because you guys didn't acknowledge that. So I'll move that 386 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:10,500 down to the, okay, the parking. Let's see. 387 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:17,800 It looks like you want us to add five future hubs in the first. 388 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,860 Yes. So within a code you do have to screen it. And I think the land, no, I know for that. The 389 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:26,780 The landscape, the bushes you guys provided was only 24 inches, which is two feet, which 390 00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:29,340 won't cover the cars. 391 00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:29,760 Yeah. 392 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Okay. 393 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,800 It'll make them five feet. 394 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,200 We have an issue with that. 395 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,220 Yeah. 396 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:41,640 Yeah. 397 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:50,460 We don't have a problem adding the five feet, but that's a handicap space, right? 398 00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:51,740 That we're going to block. 399 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:56,660 So imagine an old lady parked there backing up under a five foot hedge. 400 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680 So she's not looking at the road or the driveway. 401 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,720 You don't think that's going to be a conflict? 402 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:08,660 So our code requires full screening so we do allow but my question is if there's an accident who's going to be liable for that 403 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:13,460 Well, we don't worry about accident the thing is the code usually the parking spot has to be fully enclosed 404 00:32:13,460 --> 00:32:18,800 We work to have in the garage so in order for you guys to have enough parking you guys put it on the outside 405 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,620 Would you do allow that wouldn't be a my comment the code requires it to be screen? 406 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:26,180 So 24 inches is too short if you want to go up to three inches 407 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:29,880 It has a cover of a cars park there. It just needs to be fully screen from the right 408 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:37,400 You'll say for if it's like 3 feet, just worry that somebody's going to back up into the driveway and not looking into the car. 409 00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:38,220 That's all. 410 00:32:40,570 --> 00:32:42,390 It just needs to be fully screened. 411 00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:46,090 So you guys provide a shrubs and needs to be screened. 412 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:49,390 So the code requires if we do a lot of parking spot within the 5 feet. 413 00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:53,710 I don't mind putting the 5 foot shrubs, I just think it's dangerous, but. 414 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,360 This is a surface parking lot out in the front. 415 00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:02,220 This is right inside of our parking garage. 416 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:08,120 But the code does say all parking spots should be screened, which it was an old comment 417 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,080 from my other one. 418 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,540 I do think that there's a difference because it's a parking structure requires the screening. 419 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,300 I'm not saying we can't, this is why I'm trying to say it can the shorter shrubs be because 420 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,080 we're not against having landscaping. 421 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:26,280 It's just to accommodate the concern that Juan is raising. 422 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:36,360 I think that this may we can double check, but I really do think that the screening requirement is for your structured parking garage, and this is outside of the garage area. 423 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,060 Do you think like three feet would be okay? 424 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,600 Sorry, you can still block some of the car. 425 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,620 Okay, if you could just private a section, just the bushes and like an average car, the net that should be fine. 426 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:52,380 So 427 00:33:57,730 --> 00:34:07,750 we have eight. So, okay. So on the elevations, you guys remove the little section that shows the bottom floor without offense. 428 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:10,130 We'll add that back in. 429 00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:10,650 Okay. 430 00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:17,410 And number nine, provide this section with detail of the ground level pool. 431 00:34:17,410 --> 00:34:28,030 So when I look at the scale, the ground level pool, it looks like it's measuring from the sea wall, not the property line. 432 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:30,190 So we look on page A40. 433 00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:35,030 So it's first A4.04. 434 00:34:35,530 --> 00:34:39,510 We'll fix the site plan was correct, but the section is. 435 00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:40,710 It wasn't picked up. 436 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:47,050 Yeah, number 10 elevation provided is not show a lot of detail the material. 437 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,920 Well, okay, 10 can just be like, I guess the 3D shows it better, 438 00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:58,720 but whoever is doing, I guess the flat elevation, 439 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,200 if they can kind of like darken it because it looks, it looks flat. 440 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,320 Well, the rendering, they're flat renderings of a rendered model, 441 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,140 which creates the same rendering. 442 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,020 So that's why we provide the renderings in the front 443 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:20,760 in the 100 sheets is to show that the three-dimensionality of the building 444 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,500 because I just kind of know the board they're going to get a little confused 445 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,760 because it looks more seamless. We can enhance the renderings per your 446 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,200 recommendation here today for the board. Yeah, they could just add like some shadow 447 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,700 on the thing so you can kind of see the just a little bit of depth. Yeah because at 448 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,840 one point I was confused it looked like it was flat but then I'm like no it's not flat. 449 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,940 Yeah, I sketched when you guys saw the comment I sketched a shadow on there 450 00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:48,740 And I think it would help so we can add shadow to it based on your recommendations. Yes 451 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:57,460 So number 11 a 4.01 the West and in east elevation and provide a setback of the rooftop structure from the edge 452 00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:58,560 So that's an old comment 453 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,860 It wasn't still provided so they could just provide that yeah, and should we do it on all the rooftop? 454 00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:12,640 on just the west and the east side should be fine and the east because I think the other side was far away that it wouldn't have been a question. 455 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:24,150 On number 12, a 5.00, the wall is being proposed. Please label it on the rooftop plan. I know we had a discussion because it's going to be screened. 456 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:25,810 So we eliminated it. 457 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:26,730 Oh, okay. 458 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,510 You can notice this design is completely different. 459 00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:29,190 Yes, I did. 460 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:34,290 From the previous plan, and this is, 461 00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:38,070 we eliminated that mechanical screen altogether. 462 00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:42,330 We created a well that is below the parapet height 463 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:44,210 that will screen all the mechanical equipment 464 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:46,530 and there's no need for that screen. 465 00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:48,010 So we eliminated it altogether. 466 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:50,010 So that's what I thought you were referencing to. 467 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:52,250 We wanted to just not have, 468 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:56,350 If you go to 469 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,940 A308, you can see the roof plan. 470 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:13,920 You see we added a big stair that goes down from the roof deck so that the roof deck is five and a half feet. 471 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:24,140 The mechanical roof area is five and a half feet below the actual roof deck so that all the equipment sits within a well in the roof. 472 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:26,320 and we don't require that additional screening. 473 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,180 So we redesigned it to accommodate that 474 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:30,580 and remove the wall altogether. 475 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,560 Okay, so I'll remove comments 12. 476 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:35,940 I'll send you guys an updated, I'll remove number 12. 477 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:38,860 There are teenagers appendings, 478 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,180 which is waiting on the easement thing. 479 00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:41,500 So that's not really a comment. 480 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:44,020 It's an agreement between the town and you guys. 481 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:45,700 So I'll put that as a condition. 482 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:52,710 So the underground, that's just the comment 483 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:54,390 to you guys, reach out to FPL. 484 00:37:54,850 --> 00:37:56,610 So I'll put that condition. 485 00:37:56,610 --> 00:38:03,680 So then the landscape. So 15. Let's see. 486 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:11,580 Okay, so on 15 looks like it's missing the palm tree detail. 487 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:21,960 Yes. It wasn't printing. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay. So, okay. We'll just wait for the update for that one. And I also added the note about the ANC. 488 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:30,540 Okay. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. So number 16 is what we just discussed earlier. So 489 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:38,460 number 17 is basically just review the section of the code number 18. The trees are not 490 00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:44,140 tall enough that is required by code. So I gave. Okay. Okay. 491 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,880 So number 19. We do have a requirement 492 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:59,100 So it needs to be figured out because the minimum is 35 feet separate. 493 00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:05,320 The thing is that when you have power lines, the FPL over rules, everything. 494 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:05,940 Correct. 495 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:08,940 So we have to follow their right train, right play. 496 00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:13,780 So most likely FPLs won't let you guys go under because we notice with any lots to a board. 497 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:15,820 They do go under the ground. 498 00:39:16,340 --> 00:39:16,920 We've done it. 499 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,640 Well, I don't know if they're going underground. 500 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:25,140 Hopefully, but so far they're not so we have per plans. We have to open code. So have you guys contact a field? 501 00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:32,220 Okay, what's out there existing? I don't remember but I know there's power lines right now, but I don't know 502 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,260 Okay, but that's not for our property. Here's the conflict. I guess so out in the street 503 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:44,260 There's maybe power lines going down the street to other properties. Our property has a connection from that being now 504 00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:51,100 and the street through the property that's going to go under the water. 505 00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:54,520 Can you stick it to the mic so when it's required to start? Thank you. 506 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:59,060 Okay. Currently, we're negotiated with that panel. 507 00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:03,300 They have a line out there that goes across our property because under the water 508 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,780 into the next city. 509 00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:10,060 So they're going to relocate that at their cost. 510 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:11,260 They realize that's there. 511 00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:15,120 It's all going to be underground and it's going to be in our South easement. 512 00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:15,940 Okay. 513 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:16,120 Okay. 514 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,900 South Tenshi. 515 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,300 Oh yes. 516 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:22,000 So directly east to west to the river and then under the river, which we don't care, 517 00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:23,500 that's something they're going to do with the state. 518 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,680 But existing that has nothing to do with us could be going across and front, 519 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400 which maybe what Wanz talked about. 520 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,300 I don't know what that has nothing to do with our power. 521 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,820 So, I don't think you guys have a poll in front of the property. 522 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,960 My concern is the location of trees. 523 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,000 They should be separated 35 feet by minimum. 524 00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:47,840 There's actually two polls. 525 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,620 There's two polls. 526 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:50,040 What page? 527 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,860 I can show them on L1. 528 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:54,300 I'm sorry, what page? 529 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,120 L1. 530 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:55,600 L1. 531 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,880 There's one on the right corner of the property. 532 00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:07,160 It's in dark. 533 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,540 Yes, right here. 534 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:13,960 and then there's another one on the driveway coming out to the right of it. 535 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,580 You see it? Yes. 536 00:41:36,110 --> 00:41:40,790 For another project on this street, the town gave us this specific tree, 537 00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:46,990 the cordia, to put under the power line. Yes. That's why we use this. Well, no, the tree is correct. 538 00:41:47,110 --> 00:41:51,330 It's the distance between it. And then the distance, once you take an account, the driveway, 539 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:55,950 ways because you know it can be continuous with the driver and the visibility 540 00:41:55,950 --> 00:42:03,150 triangles and all that. So we had two, four, six, eight trees, which is what 541 00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:09,250 it's required. Well the cove acquires two per lot. So you guys only need six. 542 00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:14,370 Okay, okay. We were doing a to make it look more uniform. 543 00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:20,770 And the space is a little weird but it's because of the power lines and the the 544 00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:23,930 the power poles and the dryways and the visibility trial. 545 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:27,250 So question to the, wait, 546 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,300 let me make sure which, 547 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,180 OK, I don't know which one is north, to the north east. 548 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,740 So these two trees are 20 feet. 549 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,480 So they can't be moved away to do 35. 550 00:42:40,820 --> 00:42:43,960 Because all that's not one tree means 35 distance. 551 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:45,040 So this is a thing. 552 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,740 I thought the 35 was the minimum. 553 00:42:48,740 --> 00:43:00,320 the maximum. No, the maximum is 40. Okay. So the, I put it on number 19. The minimum is 35 feet average. And we just 554 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:06,440 copy, it's like this is just copy from the Miami day. Yeah. Yeah. And the maximum is 40 when, when it's 555 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:14,980 violence and it's smaller trees like this case, we add more trees to make lack of having bigger trees. But we 556 00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:21,060 can take out a few trees and meet the 35 because that's what you guys want. I don't have a problem 557 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:21,320 with that. 558 00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:29,090 You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to make it look okay. So the thing is if you don't 559 00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:35,730 meet the co-requirement that requires a variance from the council. So staff can't approve like anything 560 00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:41,090 under 35 because we have a minimum of 35 feet. So if you do want to keep it then that will just 561 00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:46,070 required a variance from the town council to prove the location of these trees. 562 00:43:46,770 --> 00:43:55,430 We'll remove some of them and just keep where we can, the 35, which is kind of hard, but 563 00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,210 because of the driveways, but in the powerful, 564 00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:08,590 we're just trying to make the street look more. 565 00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:10,030 Yeah, no, I understand. 566 00:44:10,290 --> 00:44:10,650 I understand. 567 00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:15,770 Yeah, unfortunately, staff can't override, like, unless it was like a less, like if the minimum was 20, 568 00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:19,730 then that'll be fine but that's not a staff level review. Anything that the 569 00:44:19,730 --> 00:44:22,630 co-requires if you can't meet it, then that requires a variance from town 570 00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:23,010 council. 571 00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:35,320 Are you discounting the driveways because of? Well, you guys 572 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,800 designed the driveways that way. So you guys all have taken consideration. There 573 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,500 would be driveways as these were as they were driveways in the past. There's 574 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:49,840 driveways too. That's a common thing to have a driveway. Yes it is. 575 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:52,440 This is 576 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:59,440 You're going everybody who comes to develop this would have to have the driveways what I'm trying to say is that you are acknowledging. 577 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 The driveways and the site triangles as far as the way that. No, yes, I am. So I'm just stating that if you can't meet it by code, then that just requires a variance from town council. Like I can't, I can't approve that. Do you have the, I just want to make sure that one has the guidance to redesign to meet the. We wait to meet this is remove some trees. And then work with the driveways and the distance and. I think anyways, we're going to end up having to. To ask for variance because we won't be able to. 578 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,860 to meet the 35. For the six trees? 579 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:41,500 We'll have one, two, three, four, five, six. Maybe, maybe we can. 580 00:45:43,890 --> 00:45:49,990 Like from the driveway north, would be one tree from the driveway south, 581 00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:55,910 would be one tree and then between the two dryways we've had four, we will have four trees, right? 582 00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:02,370 I'm sorry, repeat that question. I'm sorry. 583 00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:03,450 You want me to show? 584 00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:03,970 Yeah. 585 00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:45,220 Yeah. 586 00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:34,210 I don't think it is. 587 00:47:34,210 --> 00:47:34,910 But is it a mid? 588 00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:35,390 No, I think it would. 589 00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:36,710 It's a happy yard. 590 00:47:37,070 --> 00:47:38,190 I'll just roll that one time. 591 00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:39,750 I don't think it's helpful when we're 592 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:40,690 on the couch or at 8. 593 00:47:40,850 --> 00:47:41,870 We do have to have it on trees. 594 00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:46,690 We prefer to avoid a variance if possible. 595 00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:47,890 Yeah. 596 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:51,350 But that's what I'm trying to say is how are we 597 00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:54,570 accommodating the driveways which are needed, 598 00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:57,490 and that site triangles, right? 599 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:59,810 So if that's a separate tree on each end, 600 00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:07,550 because of the driveway is can stand as a separate tree, right? That's two of our 601 00:48:07,550 --> 00:48:15,650 six minimum, right? If we then show then now internally centered, right? That that 602 00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:20,510 means the 35-foot average. Yeah, it means the average of 30-foot. That would 603 00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:22,050 that comply. Yep, they will comply. 604 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,020 And as far as, you know, 605 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:33,960 underbounding that's never a sure thing until FPL approves it. Yes. So that's where, you know, 606 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,920 understand plan is to allow, and I don't know, I mean, if the touch trees could become taller. 607 00:48:41,740 --> 00:48:47,140 Well, the trees we pick when is underlying, I mean, if there is a FPL pose, the trees that were 608 00:48:47,140 --> 00:48:56,600 picked in the town is on an appeal that it can go under a power line. I think that if the line 609 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:02,620 is actually formally approved and then actually under grounded, maybe depending on the timing of 610 00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:07,500 that, hopefully only through a permit revision could the trees be? Yeah, that will be staff level. 611 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:13,920 We'll need to review it. The street trees they give of what street trees should be. Right, so 612 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,420 So I think that that could be worked out. 613 00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:18,320 We just can't commit to it right now. 614 00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:20,640 The location of the trees or? 615 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,940 No, no, no, the type and height of the tree. 616 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,640 No, we already picked the tree. 617 00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:27,540 Like the town already picked the stallotry from the... 618 00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:28,240 No, we already have that. 619 00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,680 I know, but under the situation of there being power lines 620 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,680 there today. 621 00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:33,760 Correct. 622 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:37,780 My point is that it's assuming, but again, 623 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,160 to be finalized under all out of our control by FPL, 624 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,860 right? If the line is underground, it may be the tree species can be modified. 625 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:51,760 No, so let's just say FPL said no, you can't go underlying. The tree that is chosen by the town, 626 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,760 we follow the FPL, right tree, right place. So that tree that's picked won't grow tall to hit it. 627 00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:03,340 So the tree won't be changed because the town already did a research that that tree can go under a pipeline. 628 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,840 So number 20 is not really a comment. It's just stating, you know, like obviously there are trees next door, 629 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,880 Just to make sure you just put a note that there will be some type of protection. You could just note that on a plan that for 630 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,460 No one damages someone else's tree. I was looking at that and 631 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,300 First are gonna be behind their construction fence 632 00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:32,960 But also just the top like so one has a canopy that kind of goes out just to be alert that whoever is doing construction make sure they don't 633 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,740 harm someone just put it like a note on a plan that you guys are aware 634 00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:45,820 You're talking about the part of our neighbor's trees that comes over on our private property because I'm sorry that there's no we are not responsible for 635 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:51,740 Maintaining there. No, you're not responsible maintaining, but you can't also damage your hacks and mystery. 636 00:50:52,900 --> 00:51:01,360 I'm not here to get into the legalities of this, but I don't that's up that that's for the neighbor to 637 00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:04,300 Be mindful of. 638 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:10,820 Let me ask you, on the note part, you want us to, we can't do the tree protection detail 639 00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:12,560 because it would have to be inside of the property. 640 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,280 Yeah, yeah. 641 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,620 It's just the, I don't know. 642 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,920 I learned a note of that, you know, you guys are aware that there's an existing tree and 643 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,380 it's not funny. 644 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,700 The issue is, everything comes in effect when other people touch people's trees, so obviously 645 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:28,760 you guys won't hopefully damage or hack someone's tree because you hack someone's tree. 646 00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,700 That will be more of a legal matter. 647 00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:35,340 all this stuff I'm saying is before whoever is alert because you guys are part of the DRC process 648 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:39,040 but whoever is going out there and build does a whole different thing so they are aware that 649 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,980 you shouldn't be hacking or touching someone's tree. Well when they go over your property you're 650 00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:51,560 allowed to trim. Trim but not hacked. Oh well yeah. Yeah but this is I want to make sure that we're 651 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:59,360 not putting ourselves we're not waving any of our rights is what I'm really getting at. No I'm not 652 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:06,240 a note that says no. No, don't say that. Just you just aware that, you know, just right, be 653 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:12,980 aware that there are neighboring trees along the common property line. I don't want to go too far. 654 00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:18,320 There's really only two trees from the north. No, I didn't say that. Just you guys are noting that 655 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,720 you guys are aware of the tree. That's what the comments saying. I didn't say like I'm just making 656 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:27,180 sure everybody knows that yeah, but it's about protecting the neighbors existing trees. 657 00:52:28,340 --> 00:52:32,880 That's different than just being aware of the existence of trees. 658 00:52:36,050 --> 00:52:39,010 No, we can say contractor to be careful. 659 00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:44,350 I'll work at it so contractor will be careful with neighboring trees and that should cover it. 660 00:52:44,490 --> 00:52:46,370 That would be fine and that's all my comments. 661 00:52:46,610 --> 00:52:49,410 And those two trees by the way in the north are invasive, 662 00:52:49,810 --> 00:52:52,530 exalted, category one, like they should be removed. 663 00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:53,250 Yes, Australian. 664 00:52:53,250 --> 00:52:57,910 that's a property owner next door, those Australian 665 00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:04,390 countries, like reading basis, they're like, on the, on the 666 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:08,530 list for about four times one of them. That's all zoning 667 00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:10,450 comments. Do you 668 00:53:14,420 --> 00:53:17,600 guys have any other questions? Well, this 669 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,160 doesn't seem to be a very extensive list of changes. So I'd 670 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,540 like to do our utmost to get this refined 671 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:29,240 to just the few remaining comments. 672 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,900 And if it's possible, can that just be a sufficiency review 673 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,160 that you all do right now? 674 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,380 And have us take yet another month 675 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:38,920 to come to another formal meeting. 676 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,860 And we're just interested in moving this forward 677 00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:44,600 as soon as we can. 678 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,140 A map. 679 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,120 So if I may please, I did go through some of these documents. 680 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,140 I'm going to have a conversation with your staff, team, team. 681 00:53:56,580 --> 00:54:00,340 And the following are my comments here at the stage. 682 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,060 So I'd like to find out if this system is county approved. 683 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,660 If it is, send me the approval from the county. 684 00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:12,380 That would go a long way in giving me some sort of support 685 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:13,700 to approve this system. 686 00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:22,840 Section CC does not show the outfall pipe and you know you tell us that you 687 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,020 know you're coming back to meeting but that is a such a fundamental and I 688 00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:29,900 think the way you are set up your engineering was probably meant to create 689 00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:37,440 these issues maybe maybe not but the section CC on your on your drainage plan 690 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,180 does not show on its fundamental it doesn't show the pipe that's the outfall 691 00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:47,400 that you're relocating to the Northern Boundary for which you've granted us a 10 foot easement. 692 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,160 So that's a really stark and fundamental effort that needs to be corrected, please. 693 00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:01,740 You're talking about that. That's because you got ocean doing the silver and for 694 00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:07,440 leaving this prior. Don't we have another set of plans for the relocation? 695 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,560 I thought we did. 696 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:19,160 I thought we did, too, because you're two silvers. And Fort Levy, 697 00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:26,100 we've gotten this done with the county beforehand. And then this civil comes with the rest of the project. 698 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:32,140 So, but I know Fort Levy's stuff was sent with all this. I just don't see it. 699 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,280 Oh, 700 00:55:47,870 --> 00:55:49,290 that's for grading. 701 00:55:54,230 --> 00:56:02,250 So, say for Jugo can make sure I get a, that section that shows the pipe, I'm not looking at the, I think the elevations are shown on C200. 702 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:09,470 Some of the elevations are shown on that, but I just need to see the pipe diameter, I think it's 18 inches. 703 00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:39,450 Okay, so let's see. 200 is paving in and grading. Yeah, not a drainage plan. Yeah, but see the same drainage. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So again, I will try if you can send that to me this afternoon with concurrence of the invested my team, if we decide, depending on how we decide to go forward, that could potentially suffice for what I'm looking for. That in 704 00:56:39,450 --> 00:56:46,090 in addition to the county approval, Miami-Dade county approval, for that specific defender 705 00:56:46,090 --> 00:56:52,270 system. If it is, yeah, if you have it, then that would be great. If not, it would probably 706 00:56:52,270 --> 00:56:56,090 take a little more time, because if it doesn't, if it doesn't exist, if you don't have a county 707 00:56:56,090 --> 00:57:01,170 approval, I probably want to look at our reference for where you've done this before, maybe give 708 00:57:01,170 --> 00:57:07,410 it a call, see how it works, just for my due diligence. And like you said, I mean, this 709 00:57:07,410 --> 00:57:14,650 in public right away. So our public works forces would be required to maintain this system. 710 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:19,570 So, you know, I don't want to get them into a pickle with giving them the responsibility 711 00:57:19,570 --> 00:57:21,790 for something that's difficult. 712 00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:29,820 I will share my contact information which if you 713 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:35,100 hide that down, you have it. Yes. Give me a call on my cell phone. Okay. And we'll go from there. 714 00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:39,900 maybe if it's an email subsequent to the call then it gives me an email and we can go from there. 715 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:45,720 Sounds good. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So first thing we're going to do is 716 00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:50,540 motion to defer the project. 717 00:57:53,380 --> 00:57:57,060 I didn't want it to defer the project. Is there a possibility that 718 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,380 I know there's some outstanding things on both of your 719 00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:17,920 to address those comments, but can we have an understanding that even though you're deferring that it's possible that you guys can make its efficiency review prior to and not have to have that next meeting? 720 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:25,720 Well, we will have a meeting, but you can contact us and submit at the time if you want to talk to each one. 721 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:34,300 but I want to I'm going to defer it. Just as a comment, I think for me, this second point is 722 00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:40,360 the conditional approval to itemize those things going forward. I think my engineering issues could 723 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,660 be easily resolved at this point, but I think the conditional approval needs to be clearly articulated 724 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:54,220 so that avoid confusion going forward. We've had recent instances where we've had, you know, 725 00:58:54,820 --> 00:59:02,380 two years or four years ago, somebody approved a, what was it? An outfall? There was an easement issue. 726 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:02,980 Yes. 727 00:59:03,460 --> 00:59:08,840 And we had confusion with it. So just to avoid these things, I mean, we do this often. 728 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,740 We want to make sure once your project gets started, we're not looking back. 729 00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:15,260 We're going to get it to a COD8 and we get this thing done. 730 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,780 But the other project I'm speaking about now is in Limbo because that hasn't been resolved. 731 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:26,380 out. So just to be clear, so I'm just suggesting that we clearly define what these conditions 732 00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:31,840 are, have it done properly. It's easy because I accent an email, I can forward that email 733 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:38,040 to you. That would form the basis of really drafting of what these conditions are to be. I 734 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:43,920 work with you as we work together and we can get that nailed down. So in my opinion, I think 735 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:49,160 that's a real important issue here. I mean, not just, you know, not not taking anything 736 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:55,900 be from the planners comments, which I think are also critical to get done. So, if we can get that done 737 00:59:57,300 --> 00:59:59,820 earlier and later, fine, if not, I mean, I think a month. 738 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:28,760 It's not on reason, but to see us get everything kneeled out. Well, hopefully, because we would want to get this addressed immediately, that you can help us through that and Lorraine, too. Let's go ahead. I appreciate that. If making next month's meeting, hopefully just a format. So in between this month, I'm sorry. In between this and now, you guys can contact me, 101, whoever is the designer, and we can go over my comments to see if you address. So you don't always have the way to submit everything. 739 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,280 we could do one comment at a time before when you do resummit, I won't have any comments. 740 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:39,100 Okay. And did too for me. So in order to exchange information, please call me. 741 01:00:39,180 --> 01:00:41,940 The best time is for our days. We're looking forward to getting someone from you to D. 742 01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:46,040 You know, so we can get this thing done. As you say, so the next meeting would just be 743 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:52,900 formality to come here together and get us approved. By the traffic meeting. Yes, it is very much 744 01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:58,160 important. I still, since this is a new process, I'm wearing still. I don't know what impact 745 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,220 that has on our our process forward. 746 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:08,620 I totally agree what you're saying and I'm 747 01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:13,960 working on it as I wish it was just one or two departments because multiple 748 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,520 departments involved in it but meeting adjourned everyone say aye aye