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Bienvenue à la consultation

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Welcome to the

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- Bienvenues la public

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consultation of the consultation

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publique municipal du mardi 24

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temps. Council, Tuesday, October

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24th. The consultation this

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evening will be on the project

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at two 75 out in. I want to

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point out a few things before we

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have the presentation by urban

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planning on the project. Tonight

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we are not looking for approving

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a final architectural project.

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We are, that has not been done

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yet, and perhaps some of you

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were led in error by looking at

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the website and seeing buildings

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and things like this. The

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architectural project itself has

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not been submitted, or approved.

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There is a whole process, and I

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believe that the presentation

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will touch on that. Actually,

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what we are doing tonight's, it

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is on the change of the zoning

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that is required to go from

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commercial to residential mixed

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so we will be looking at

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La marge, la hauteur, le mixte

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de logement. Et le nombre de

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logements maximum. Ben ne sait

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sûrement le nombre de logements

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finale, mais le nombre de

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logements maximum. C'est ce

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qu'on appelle un PPCMOI,

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>> In un projet particulier

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English, it's de construction,

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de modification ou d'occupation

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d'un immeuble. One skier, a

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specific construction,

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alteration, or occupancy

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proposal for and -- so I just

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wanted to introduce the

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presentation with those words

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and now we can go on to the

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presentation. And there will be

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a question period after the

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presentation for anyone that

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>> The question period, please

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go to the mic, because we are,

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Webb casting this meeting

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tonight, and the only way that

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we can really hear you is by

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going to the mic, identifying

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yourself, and asking your

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questions. And now, what we want

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to go to the official opening of

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the meeting.

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2.1 Adoption de l'ordre du jour

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de la consultation publique de

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la Ville de Beaconsfield du 24

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octobre 2023 à 19 h

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- Proposé.

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- Secondé.

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- En faveur.

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>> So now we will go to the

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>> Can you hear Monsieur le

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Maire, est-ce que vous

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m'entendez bien? Me? Well yes,

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thank you. Good evening

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everyone. Thank you. I am Danny

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Chabot, the head of the urban

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planning here. My colleague

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Monterrey gas call, and division

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chief for permits, permits and

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certificates.

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Est-ce que vous entendez, bien

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maintenant? Parfait, merci. Il

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faut s'ajuster des fois. Ma

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service d'urbanisme. Mayor said,

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this is a public consultation on

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a specified project, which is

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located at 275 Ella. I will not

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repeat the long name, Mister

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Mayor already did that. So we're

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presentation right now.

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- Ce soir, ce qu'on va vous

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présenter. On va faire un bref

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survol de c'est quoi ces

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pouvoir qu'ils sont les

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paramètres, quelles sont les

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possibilités de cet outil-là qui

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est, qui relève de la Loi sur

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l'aménagement et urbanisme. Par

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la suite, on va vous présenter

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la conformité au plan

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d'urbanisme et la localisation

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du projet. On va ensuite tomber

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dans le contenu du projet. On va

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commencer par le demande de

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permis de lotissement. Ensuite,

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les demandes qui sont faites

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pour les deux lots. Et après

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chacun des lots profiter. Puis

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finalement, on va terminer cette

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section-là avec les conditions

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qui ont été imposées par le

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conseiller à la séance du 25

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septembre dernier. Pour

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l'explication du processus

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d'adoption de ce projet-là. Qui

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est entamée déjà, mais qui est

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beaucoup plus long qu'un

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processus habituel.

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D'approbation d'un projet. Et

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item. What is a --? If the bylaw

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adopted by Council, it sent him

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alteration, occupancy proposal

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for an immovable. And French we

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certain conditions a project to

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be carried out just by the fact

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that some articles of the bylaw

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exceptional measure that is

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on menus and it must however

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respect the master plan of the

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city and is generally used for

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large-scale projects such as

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this one. It offers a certain

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flexibility in the law in

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allowing projects to be adopted

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to a specific area. You have to

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dual application. You have the

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bylaw in the safe as -- and the

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zoning, because we are only

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aspect of the prospect that is

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not being respected in the

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aspect of this. On some aspect

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number of spark parking spaces,

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commercial projects, and

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that are not conforming to our

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CCU et le Conseil en vertu du

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projet comme ça de

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rapport à la densité. Pour le

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secteur qui est la zone 0302,

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d'implantation au sol faible ou

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of Alabama and fairway. But we

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contenu du projet. Ce projet-là

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demande de permis de lotissement

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comité consultatif d'urbanisme

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conseil. C'est un processus qui

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vertu de la loi et de notre

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règlement municipal. Donc

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R, which is floor area ratio of

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the building. What is proposed

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land site coverage, which is

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building on its lot, is

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conforming to the actual bylaw.

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the 40% right now in the

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proposed project is at the 34%.

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l'objet d'une demande qui touche

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les deux lots, c'est concernant

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les allées de circulation. Donc

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prévoit que les allées de

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circulation doivent être de 6,5

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mètres. Qu'est-ce qu'on veut

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dire parler de circulation, vous

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schéma. C'est représenté par la

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flèche rouge. Donc c'est

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cannot succeed 8%, and what is

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them are respecting the 8%, and

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the one in the middle is 16%.

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- La dernière demande qui

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concerne les deux lots au

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complet, c'est concernant le

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nombre de matériaux et les

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matériaux de revêtement

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extérieur. Donc au zonage, ce

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qui est prévu, c'est deux

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matériaux par bâtiment. C'est

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sûr que 90% de la ville de

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Beaconsfield, c'est des

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bâtiments unifamiliaux isolées

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ou jumelées. Donc c'est pour ça

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que cette norme-là existe. Ce

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qui est demandé, c'est trois

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matériaux. Ou les types de

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matériaux de revêtement

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extérieur au zonage, c'est

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permet d'utiliser de l'aluminium

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ou de l'acier, seulement lorsque

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c'est fait pour imiter de la

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planche. Par exemple sur votre

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bâtiment, si vous avez des

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planches de bois ou

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deux et que vous voulez de

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remplacer éventuellement, ça

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peut être en acier, mais il faut

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que ça imite la planche. Dans ce

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cas-ci, la demande, c'est que ce

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matériau-là soit utilisé, mais

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sans l'obligation de reproduire

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la planche. On voudrait aussi

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prendre le moment à ce point-ci

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de faire un rappel que ces deux

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demandes-là, bien qu'elle touche

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l'architecture, sont encore

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générales, parce que

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l'architecture va devoir faire

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l'objet d'une approbation en

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vertu du Règlement sur les pays

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qui sera fait plus tard dans le

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processus, on va vous présenter

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quand on vous présentera le

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processus complet, mais à ce

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point-ci, c'est vraiment de

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manière générale. Si le projet

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est approuvé, O.K., ils pourront

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y avoir trois matériaux au lieu

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de deux, et utiliser le

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revêtement d'acier, mais on ne

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détermine pas ici la couleur, le

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format où ce sera installé sur

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le bâtiment, c'est vraiment de

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manière générale. On va

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maintenant passer aux demandes

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qui sont seulement sur le lot

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des maisons de ville, alors

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celui qui se situe le plus au

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nord, sur le terrain.

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>> Next slide, please? Thank you

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so we are now, again, talking

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only about a lot concerning the

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town houses. Via specification

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grid for C 330 essentially

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commercial. So we have all the

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variety of businesses that we

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authorize in the city. The only

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exception that is not there is a

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gas station. So everything is

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there, or permitted. What is

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proposed now is multi family

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units, which is the town houses.

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And what is proposed, in a

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zoning there's no units because

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it is a commercial space. So in

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the grid, there are no dwell

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dwellings. So what is proposed

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for the town houses 13 units.

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And the height in the zoning, we

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are talking in the zoning about

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ten metres, and what is proposed

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is 10.5 metres.

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- Une autre demande encore une

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fois pour ce lot-là, c'est

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concernant les marges de recul

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du bâtiment principal. Donc

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étant donné le projet de

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lotissement qui a été approuvé,

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la marge avant se situe sur

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fairways, à l'arrière, la marge,

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c'est, on pourrait dire, la

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portion qui donne plus près de

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West Kraft, et les marges

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latérales serait entre le

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bâtiment protégé et les

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bâtiments adjacents qui seront

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sur Bolton et vers la cour

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intérieure du projet. La demande

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est actuellement au zonage pour

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une marge avant, c'est 9 mètres

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qui est prévu dans la zone

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commerciale, et une marge

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arrière de 12 mètres. Ces

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marges-là font référence à du

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commercial où actuellement il y

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a du stationnement qui est prévu

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et des aires de chargement, des

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chargement de camion pour

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approvisionner les commerces. Ce

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qui est proposé, c'est une marge

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avant de 6,9 mètres, et une

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marge avant de 8 mètres. Dans

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les zones adjacentes, les

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marches arrière pour les

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bâtiments résidentiels sont de 6

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mètres, par exemple, ce qui se

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trouve à l'intersection de West

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Coast et Elm, et pour les

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marges, avance pardon, il est

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demandé 6,9 mètres et pour

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l'arrière, dans l'ensemble de

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Beaconsfield, c'est entre 9 et

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10 mètres, et ce qui est demandé

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c'est vite maître. 8 mètres.

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-

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>> We would merci. Just like to

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show you an example of the cross

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section that would be conforming

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to the actual bylaw for a

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residential area. On the right

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side you have, let's say, those

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town houses, litter ten metres,

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for the purpose of discussion.

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And since they have a lateral

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setback, the building could be

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located as close as 4.5 metres.

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What is proposed in the project

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is to have the town houses back

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to 8.96 metres from the limit of

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the property, and they are using

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the setback here to build the

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balcony. It will stop there.

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Then after that there is still

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close to three metres that will

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be the vegetation on this site.

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- On voit aussi ici, juste pour

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mettre en perspective, que la

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marge latérale du bâtiment qui

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est proposé est de 8,85. Et en

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moyenne, les bâtiments sur

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Bolton, la moyenne, c'est une

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distance de 10 mètres. De cette

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ligne-là, de l'allée. Donc c'est

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sûr qu'il y a le bâtiment qui

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est ici qui semble un peu plus

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près. Il donne sur fairways.

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Donc le 7,62 qu'on voit, c'est

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la marge latérale de ce

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bâtiment-là, et non la marche

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arrière. Prochain... l'autre

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élément qui a fait l'objet de

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beaucoup de questions, c'est

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concernant la différence de

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hauteur des rez-de-chaussée,

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donc entre les bâtiments qui

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sont sur Fairway, Boston et les

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maisons de ville qui sont

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proches. Et ce qui est démontré,

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ici par le prolongement de deux

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lignes, c'est que c'est environ

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46 centimètres. Donc 1 pied et

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demi. De différence entre les

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auteurs. Qui est rattrapé par un

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maximum d'étages à 3 mètres.

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Donc 8 pieds.

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- Dix.

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- Dix. Les prochaines demandes

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s'adressent seulement, sont

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seulement applicables pour le

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lot qui est, qui donne sur Elm

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et Fairway.

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>> Again, in the grid we have,

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again, all these commercial

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activities. What is proposed

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now, for this building, is

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multi-units. We're going to mix

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use. Mixed-use needs to be

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compatible with residential

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activities. For instance, you

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will not see any restaurants

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because cooking, the smell,

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things like that. What you are

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going to have as retail and

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services. It could very well be

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a veterinarian, that would work.

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General retail and services.

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Next item is the number of

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dwellings. Again, there is no

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dwellings permitted in the

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commercial zone. So what is

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proposed for this building is

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117 units. And the building

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height is, again, it's a

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commercial building, what is

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proposed is 13.5 instead of ten.

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- La prochaine demande, c'est

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concernant le nombre d'étages.

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Actuellement, dans la zone,

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c'est prévu que ce soit deux

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étages. Ce qui est proposé pour

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ce lot-là, spécifiquement, c'est

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d'avoir quatre étages. On vous

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encore une fois mis la coupe du

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bâtiment proche qui est ici.

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Étage rez-de-chaussée est

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beaucoup plus haut, parce que

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c'est du commercial qui est

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prévu à cet endroit-là. Pour

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mettre en relation avec les

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maisons de villes qui sont à

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l'ouest du projet, donc à

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l'ouest de faire, qui sont déjà

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existantes par rapport aux

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auteurs de qu'est-ce que ça

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pourrait donner en termes de

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gradation.

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>> We are basically repeating

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the exact same slide but this

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time in English, just to make it

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clear. The building you see on

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the left is located on the west

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side of Fairway, so what you see

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is the two stories of

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underground parking. The first

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level is the commercial, that's

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why it's higher. And then after

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that you keep on going all the

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way to the fourth floor. It's

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approximately one storey higher

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than the building located on the

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west side.

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- La prochaine demande concerne

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les marges de recul du bâtiment

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principal, pour commencer, c'est

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important de mentionner que dans

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le projet qui est adopté par le

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conseil le 25 septembre, les

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demandes étaient à l'effet que

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la marge avant, la marge avant

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secondaire, la marge latérale et

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la marge derrière nécessitait,

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constituant des non-conformité

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pour lesquels il y avait des

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demandes. Par contre, les marges

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prévues sont des marges

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minimales. Donc les marges avant

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et latérales excèdent le minimum

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prescrit. Ce que ça veut dire,

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c'est que si vous regardez le

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tableau, la marge avant en

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zonage, c'est un minimum de 9

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mètres.,, Ce qui est proposé,

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c'est 14,7. C'est conforme, ça

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n'aurait pas dû se retrouver

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dans le projet. Même chose pour

542
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la marge latérale, on a 4,5 de

543
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000
prévus au zonage, ce qui est

544
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000
proposé, c'est 8 mètres. Donc

545
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
étant donné que c'est au-delà,

546
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000
ça ne fait pas l'objet d'une

547
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000
demande non conforme. Et pour la

548
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000
marche derrière, je veux vous

549
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000
montrer le schéma des marges à

550
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
la prochaine diapositive et vous

551
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000
allez comprendre qu'il n'y a pas

552
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000
de marge arrières, finalement,

553
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000
donc cette demande-là n'aurait

554
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000
pas dû faire l'objet non plus

555
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000
d'une demande. Ce qui fait en

556
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000
sorte que c'est seulement la

557
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
marge avant secondaire qui est

558
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000
non conforme. Si on passe à la

559
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000
prochaine diapositive, ce qu'on

560
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000
voit, ce qu'étant donné que le

561
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000
bâtiment a frontale sur deux

562
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000
rues, c'est un lot de coin,

563
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000
c'est probablement le cas de

564
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000
certaines de vos propriétés

565
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000
aussi, c'est qu'on retrouve une

566
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000
marge avant. Dans ce cas-ci,

567
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,060
elle est sûre Elm et une marge

568
00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:01,060
avant secondaire qui se

569
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,060
retrouvent sur Fairway, ce qui

570
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:04,060
fait en sorte que la portion

571
00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:08,060
entre le bâtiment projeté et

572
00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:12,060
les, la Cour dans la cour du

573
00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,060
projet et ce qui se trouvent

574
00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:16,060
entre le bâtiment projeté est

575
00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:21,060
plutôt vers l'est près de

576
00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:24,060
Westcroft sont des marges

577
00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:25,060
latérales qui sont non

578
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:26,060
conformes. Ce qui est qu'on non

579
00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:27,060
conforme, et pour lesquels il y

580
00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:28,060
a une demande, et c'est ce qui

581
00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:29,060
sera proposé pour le deuxième

582
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:30,060
projet en vue d'une décision par

583
00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:33,060
le Conseil, c'est une marge

584
00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,060
avant secondaire de 6,9 mètres,

585
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:39,060
au lieu de 9 mètres. Par rapport

586
00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:41,060
à ce qui est présenté pour les

587
00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:43,060
maisons de ville, c'est pour

588
00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:45,060
essayer de conserver un

589
00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:46,060
alignement sur faire Wade et

590
00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:48,060
deux bâtiments pour que

591
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:50,060
justement, il y a un alignement

592
00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:51,060
qu'{city_council} il n'y a pas

593
00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,060
de retrait ou quoi que ce soit

594
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,060
>> The next. Item is the

595
00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:56,060
dimension of walls in the

596
00:21:56,060 --> 00:21:58,060
existing bylaw. The front wall

597
00:21:58,060 --> 00:22:00,020
of a multi family cannot exceed

598
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:02,020
40 metres. However it could go

599
00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:04,020
all the way to 60 metres if 30%

600
00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:07,020
of the total length of the wall

601
00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:09,020
is backed up by at least one

602
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:11,020
metre. For a minimum of three

603
00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:14,020
metres. In other words, if you

604
00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:16,020
have 60 metres, you must have a

605
00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:19,020
recess in the building. They are

606
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,020
actually asking exactly the same

607
00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:24,020
thing, but for a building that

608
00:22:24,020 --> 00:22:25,020
is 110 metres. If you look at

609
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:27,020
the next slide, you will see

610
00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:29,020
that it is quite comparable with

611
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:32,020
the buildings that we have next

612
00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:36,020
door. Those buildings are 56, 65

613
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:40,020
metres each, and it's quite

614
00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:45,020
similar, in terms of distance.

615
00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:47,020
>>

616
00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:48,020
- Donc ça fait le tour des

617
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:49,020
demandes qui sont faites pour le

618
00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:53,020
projet. Le 25 septembre dernier,

619
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:54,020
les membres du conseil ont

620
00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:55,020
approuvé le premier projet de

621
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:57,020
résolution. En imposant

622
00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:00,080
certaines conditions. Donc la

623
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,080
première est qu'il y ait une

624
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,080
entente sur les travaux

625
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,080
municipaux soit conclue entre le

626
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
requérant de la ville et la

627
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
ville, pardon, concernant la

628
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,080
localisation d'une conduites

629
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,080
pluviales municipales.

630
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Actuellement, il y a une

631
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,080
conduite pluviales qui passe à

632
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,080
travers le terrain à peu près

633
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,080
dans les cours arrières, à

634
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080
partir des cours arrières de

635
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,080
Westcroft devant le bâtiment de

636
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,080
la Plaza existante. Donc ça, ça

637
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,080
devrait être relocalisés et

638
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080
confirmé par les Travaux publics

639
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,080
de la ville que c'est fait dans

640
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,080
les règles de l'art. Les membres

641
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,080
du conseil ont aussi exigé

642
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
connaît aménagements paysagers

643
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080
danse ne permettant aucune forme

644
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,080
de circulation soit réalisée

645
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
entretenue est maintenue dans la

646
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,080
marge latérale du lot des

647
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080
maisons de ville. Donc entre les

648
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,080
cours arrières sur Bolton et

649
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080
Fairway est le garage de ces

650
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,080
nouvelles maisons de villes-là.

651
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,080
Un mur d'intimité soit construit

652
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,080
à l'extrémité nord de tous les

653
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,080
balcons. Donc encore une fois,

654
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,080
pour les maisons de ville, qu'il

655
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,080
y a une certaine forme

656
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,080
d'intimité qui soient prévus

657
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,080
entre le nouveau bâtiment et les

658
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,040
bâtiments existants. Par la

659
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,040
construction d'un mur

660
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,040
d'intimité, le tout en

661
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,040
conformité avec les règlements

662
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,040
de zonage en vigueur. Et que les

663
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040
bâtiments prévus à la présente

664
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,040
demande, évidemment, fasse

665
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,040
l'objet d'une demande de PIIA.

666
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040
(inaudible)

667
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040
>> Yes. The first item is that,

668
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040
as you know, there is a storm

669
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040
sewer that is passing right in

670
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040
the middle of the property. That

671
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,040
will be re-localized. It will

672
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,040
have to be localized on the

673
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
north of the property. That will

674
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,040
be the expense of the developer.

675
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,040
The other thing is, there's

676
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,040
going to have to be a dense

677
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,040
landscaping project between the

678
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,040
access ramp and the balconies of

679
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040
the town houses, and the limit

680
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,040
of the property on the other

681
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040
street. The next one is a wall

682
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,000
that will have to be constructed

683
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
along the balconies to create

684
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,000
certain screen in order to not

685
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
to impinge on the neighbouring

686
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,000
property. And all of this plus

687
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000
the authorization of the

688
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000
architecture will have to go

689
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
back to the Planning Advisory

690
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Committee for recommendation to

691
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000
Council. The next slide is the

692
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000
timetable for the process of

693
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000
approval of such a project. Just

694
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
keep in mind that the best

695
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
people that will guide you to go

696
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
through the process is the

697
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000
clerks office. There will be

698
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
dates, there will be notices on

699
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,000
the website. We encourage you to

700
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000
go after November 20th. But what

701
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000
we do know now is that there was

702
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000
a first adoption by Council on

703
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,060
September 25th. We are tonight

704
00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:01,060
on October 24th for the public

705
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:04,060
consultation. On November 28th

706
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:07,060
the Council may adopt the bylaw

707
00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:10,060
with or without change. Then

708
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,060
after that, there is a

709
00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:15,060
referendum process that will

710
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:16,060
take place. The first item will

711
00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:18,060
be the public notice explaining

712
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:22,060
the process to register into the

713
00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:23,060
process. And then after that,

714
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:24,060
pending on the number of zones

715
00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,060
that will be implicated, there

716
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:29,060
will be numbers that will be

717
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:31,060
calculated from the clerks

718
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:32,060
office, with other dates. But

719
00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:33,060
for the rest, we encourage you

720
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:36,060
to talk to the clerks office,

721
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:40,060
and talk to the assistant clerk

722
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:42,060
or our city clerk.

723
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:48,060
- Je voudrais juste rajouter, si

724
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:50,060
on peut passer à la prochaine

725
00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:51,060
diapositive, oui, on va passer

726
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,060
aux questions par la suite...

727
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:57,060
>> Do you want it in French?

728
00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:00,020
Yes. We're going to explain it

729
00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:01,020
later.

730
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,020
>> Yes. We're going to go back

731
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:07,020
to it. No worries.

732
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:08,020
[Inaudible]

733
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:09,020
>> No, it's not a registration

734
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:13,020
process. It's before that. Or

735
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:15,020
after -- we won't do anything --

736
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,020
>> That's the maximum day but

737
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:17,020
those things are not gonna

738
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,020
happen between Christmas and New

739
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,020
Year's, we can assure you of

740
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:21,020
that. We are going on vacation

741
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:23,020
as well.

742
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:25,020
- L'autre chose qui est très

743
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,020
importante, tantôt, je vous ai

744
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:28,020
parlé du processus de,

745
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:30,020
approbation du PIIA. Donc de

746
00:27:30,020 --> 00:27:31,020
l'architecture et de la

747
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:34,020
démolition. Ces processus-là

748
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:35,020
pourront se faire en parallèle,

749
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:37,020
mais seront seulement député

750
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:38,020
quand le processus référendaire

751
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:43,020
sera complété. Donc on peut

752
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,020
parler quelque part en février,

753
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,020
mars 2024. Pour le début de ça.

754
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:48,020
>> I would like to repeat that

755
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:51,020
in English. The process of

756
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,020
adoption of the architecture and

757
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,020
features of the project will not

758
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,020
take place unless this is

759
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,020
brought to the end. If this

760
00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:00,080
doesn't go, we will not be

761
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,080
presenting the project to

762
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,080
architectural features. So this

763
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
is the first part. Once this is

764
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080
done, then we could go ahead

765
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,080
with looking at the architecture

766
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080
of the building. That will take

767
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,080
place, most probably, in

768
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
February or March.

769
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080
- Donc juste étant donné que ça

770
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
a été mentionné en anglais, il y

771
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,080
a un premier projet qui est

772
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,080
adopté actuellement.

773
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Aujourd'hui, il y a la

774
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,080
consultation publique. La

775
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,080
consultation publique, en vertu

776
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,080
de la Loi de l'aménagement sur

777
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,080
l'urbanisme, c'est pour entendre

778
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,080
les résidences sur un projet

779
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080
dans le but que le conseil

780
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080
prenne une décision qui puisse

781
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080
tenir compte des commentaires

782
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,080
qui ont été faits. Contrairement

783
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,080
à certaines informations qui ont

784
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,080
été véhiculés, ce projet-là

785
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080
n'est pas approuvée tout cuit.

786
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Il y a quand même des processus

787
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,080
qui se fait en vertu de la Loi

788
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,080
sur l'aménagement et d'urbanisme

789
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,080
qui est obligatoire. Maintenant,

790
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,080
au niveau des zones visées par

791
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,080
le processus référendaire,

792
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,040
donc...

793
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040
- Prochaine diapo, s'il vous

794
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,040
plaît?

795
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
- Sont présentées à l'écran. Ce

796
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,040
ne sera pas bien long, il faut

797
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,040
arriver. Mais tout ça pour dire

798
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,040
que c'est les zones qui pourront

799
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040
avoir une implication dans le

800
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,040
processus, en vertu encore une

801
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
fois de la Loi sur l'aménagement

802
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,040
et urbanisme. Donc le rectangle

803
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,040
jaune que vous voyez, c'est la

804
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
zone C330. Les zones visées sur

805
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,040
la zone H334 h333, ça c'est

806
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Westcroft, H336 qui est à

807
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,040
l'ouest de Fairway, les maisons

808
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040
de ville, les quatre, entente et

809
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,040
la zone H340 qui est une partie

810
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,040
au nord. Donc ça complète pour

811
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,040
nous la présentation.

812
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,040
- Merci beaucoup.

813
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000
>> Thank you very much, Mary and

814
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Denis. And now we are going to

815
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
the question period. As I said

816
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000
before, if you have a question,

817
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
please come up to the

818
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
microphone, identify yourself,

819
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000
and then either make a comment

820
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000
or ask a question. We will try

821
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
to answer. You

822
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
>> Can I just add something to

823
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
that? We provide closed

824
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
captioning for the web, so it's

825
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
really important that you speak

826
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000
into the microphone and that you

827
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
don't speak from the crowd,

828
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
because we can't capture it that

829
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000
way. Thank you.

830
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
>> Yes. That's very good. Yes.

831
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
We need to be at the mic to make

832
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
a comment or ask a question.

833
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
>> My name is Maria Jeremy Lowe.

834
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,060
I live on West Coast. My

835
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:03,060
question is regarding the

836
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:06,060
parking situation there. Based

837
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:07,060
on the amount of space you have

838
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:09,060
available, and the way you're

839
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:10,060
going to redesign your parking

840
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:12,060
lot, how many spaces are they're

841
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:14,060
going to be for the hundred and

842
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:18,060
17 units that are meant to be

843
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:22,060
occupied by people that are that

844
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:24,060
own one or maybe more than one

845
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,060
car? In Beaconsfield it's not

846
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:28,060
easy to get around. I think

847
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:29,060
almost everyone needs at least

848
00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,060
one car.

849
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:35,060
>> Yes. That's a good question.

850
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:40,060
The number of parking spaces,

851
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:45,060
140 for the residential. And 30.

852
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,060
They are exceeding the ratios

853
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,060
that we ask normally for zoning.

854
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:53,060
So the ratio for us is 120. And

855
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:56,060
they are at 134.

856
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:57,060
>> 1:40?

857
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:58,060
>> Yes.

858
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:02,020
>> So, 117 units have access to

859
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:03,020
140 parking spots. So let's say

860
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,020
the invite someone over for

861
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,020
supper. It's Thanksgiving. Where

862
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:08,020
do they tell these people to

863
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,020
park?

864
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:12,020
>> There are some rules about

865
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:15,020
visitors. So there is a

866
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:17,020
percentage that is added to that

867
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,020
for visitors. It's also a

868
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,020
different number of parking

869
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:24,020
spaces for the commercial use.

870
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,020
So they respect the ratio, and

871
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:30,020
it is also above the requested

872
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:32,020
ratio in the bylaw.

873
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:33,020
>> Okay. So you're saying,

874
00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:36,020
within the hundred and 70 total

875
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:38,020
spaces, because you're not going

876
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:40,020
to create more space --

877
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:42,020
>> They have more than the

878
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:43,020
bylaws have.

879
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:46,020
>> I understand bylaws. I'm just

880
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:50,020
thinking logic here. 170 spaces

881
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:51,020
is, you think, more than

882
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:55,020
sufficient for 117 units, plus

883
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:56,020
30 commercial businesses that

884
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:59,020
are going to be taking in

885
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:00,080
clients?

886
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,080
>> If it's Thanksgiving dinner,

887
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080
it's at night. Most of the

888
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,080
businesses are going to be

889
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,080
closed. So that space is

890
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
available. Let's take my

891
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080
example. I've got, to the max,

892
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080
on my parking space at home,

893
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080
four parking spaces. If my kids

894
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,080
are there with the boyfriend and

895
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
everything, it's eight cars. So

896
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080
where are they going to park?

897
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,080
They park on the street.

898
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,080
>> Well you definitely don't

899
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080
want to live in this complex

900
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,080
because you can have a big

901
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,080
problem.

902
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080
>> The thing is that we cannot

903
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
plan 500 parking spaces when

904
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080
they are not going to be used.

905
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
It's ratios that are normally

906
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080
used to park the residents. If

907
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080
you have visitors, of course,

908
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,080
sometimes there's not going to

909
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,080
be space.

910
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080
>> I think that the answer was

911
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,080
there. The number of spaces. --

912
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
maybe we are following the

913
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,080
bylaw. Can you hear me okay?

914
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,080
>> My name is Jason, I'm a

915
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040
resident of Beaconsfield. I have

916
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,040
a comment to make before I pose

917
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,040
a question. Thank you for

918
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040
hosting the public consultation.

919
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040
I'm here today concerned about

920
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
the development going on and to

921
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040
express a deep apprehension

922
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040
about the ongoing development

923
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,040
proposal for this in our

924
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040
community as it stands now. I

925
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,040
ask you, and I employer plot

926
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040
implore you, to look at the long

927
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040
term implications of this

928
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,040
project and taken median action

929
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
to reject the plans as they are

930
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040
proposed. We are open to a

931
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,040
development, but not as it

932
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040
stands now.

933
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040
>> We haven't shown you the

934
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
development yet. It's not the

935
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,040
development.

936
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,040
>> All October 17th.

937
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,040
>> It is not been submitted to

938
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040
us.

939
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040
>> Well, with all due respect,

940
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
we were asked to vote.

941
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040
>> No, no, what you can comment

942
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,040
on what we presented tonight,

943
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,040
but the architectural design is

944
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040
not approved, has not been

945
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040
submitted to us, what is not

946
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040
even, and what you may have seen

947
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
was not, is not a done deal. We

948
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
are not approving an

949
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
architectural design.

950
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
>> So, perfectly, appreciate

951
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
that. You mentioned a done deal.

952
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
It was brought up to her

953
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
attention, October 17, 18, and

954
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
19, that this was a done deal.

955
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000
So this obviously

956
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000
miscommunication going around

957
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
within the public. But I

958
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000
continue. I understand the

959
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
importance of development

960
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
progress in our city and for a

961
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
growth, but it's crucial we

962
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000
strike a balance between

963
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
development and preservation of

964
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
our environment. Our heritage of

965
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
the well-being of our citizens.

966
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
I will be two more minutes. The

967
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
proposed development of Elm

968
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
plaza has raised numerous

969
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
concerns among residents, and I

970
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
think is vital to address these

971
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
concerns. Several issues have

972
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
been raised. Today you may be

973
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000
hearing them around traffic,

974
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
bylaw amendments, cultural and

975
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000
social impact, skulls cultural

976
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000
integrity of the homes in the

977
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
neighbouring area, which I

978
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
didn't necessarily hear comment

979
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
about the presentation to the

980
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
large construction that's going

981
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
to take place. So my question to

982
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,060
you around the bylaws, have they

983
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:05,060
been approved with the changes

984
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:08,060
that were proposed? Because I

985
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:11,060
ask, why would you accept 18

986
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:13,060
bylaw amendments when you ask

987
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:16,060
owe residents to the upholding

988
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:18,060
citizens and to respect existing

989
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:21,060
bylaws, for example, trees, fans

990
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,060
height, how big your home can

991
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:25,060
be, how much you can put your

992
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:27,060
shared, your pool, all of these

993
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,060
different things, and there are

994
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,060
18 that effect the privacy of

995
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:32,060
the local residents. And I'm

996
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:35,060
curious as to why you would

997
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:39,060
accept that.

998
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:41,060
[Applause]

999
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,060
>> That's why we're having a

1000
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:43,060
consultation. That's exactly why

1001
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,060
we're having a consultation, so

1002
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,060
we can hear the concerns. And

1003
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:48,060
then we will have to take your

1004
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:49,060
concerns into consideration.

1005
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:51,060
>> I appreciate that. May I ask

1006
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,060
one more question? If I

1007
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:54,060
understand the way this process

1008
00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:56,060
works, September 23rd you

1009
00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:58,060
already approved special

1010
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:59,060
concessions for this

1011
00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:00,020
development.

1012
00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,020
>> Now.

1013
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:07,020
>> The process is multi layers.

1014
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:08,020
The first of the first project,

1015
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:09,020
then we have to do a

1016
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:10,020
consultation. That's what we're

1017
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,020
doing tonight. Hearing the

1018
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,020
concerns. And then we turn back

1019
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,020
go to the developer, see if they

1020
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,020
can arrange something, make it

1021
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,020
happen the way the citizens are

1022
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:22,020
concerned, and I'm just going to

1023
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:24,020
get to that, and after that it

1024
00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:26,020
comes back to Council for a

1025
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:29,020
second lecture, with or without

1026
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:31,020
modification of the bylaw,

1027
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,020
depending on what is proposed.

1028
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:34,020
>> So may I ask, because you did

1029
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:36,020
explain, it thank you, but I

1030
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:38,020
probably missed. At September

1031
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,020
25th, you guys approved what,

1032
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,020
exactly?

1033
00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:46,020
>> The first project.

1034
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:47,020
>> That does not mean -- that

1035
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:49,020
>> The parameters of that, time

1036
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:52,020
now or have your consultation.

1037
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:53,020
Hopefully that consultation that

1038
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:55,020
we are having tonight, based on

1039
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:56,020
the comments we're going to

1040
00:37:56,020 --> 00:38:00,080
hear, make some changes. After

1041
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,080
that, it will come back to

1042
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Council. Hopefully there will be

1043
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,080
some changes approved at that

1044
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,080
point. One set stone we give the

1045
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,080
process of the registry and the,

1046
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,080
again, at the end, the citizens

1047
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080
still will have the last word on

1048
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,080
this.

1049
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,080
>> Okay. So step one, special

1050
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,080
concessions, the term they

1051
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,080
refer, to that was already

1052
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,080
approved?

1053
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,080
>> Not approved. Not approved.

1054
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,080
It's the first process.

1055
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,080
>> First step. So nothing has

1056
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080
been approved, and contrary to

1057
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
what you have done, there is no

1058
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,080
done deal.

1059
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,080
>> I would just like to add

1060
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080
something. It's a dual

1061
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,080
application, so everything that

1062
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080
our requests tonight is going to

1063
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,080
be what they are asking for and

1064
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080
if Council decides to go with

1065
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,040
it, what will be a place-able.

1066
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Everything else that's in the

1067
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,040
bylaws, fences, number of trees,

1068
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040
percentage of green spaces

1069
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,040
needed, needs to be conforming

1070
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
to the bylaw. So these are only

1071
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,040
the elements that they would

1072
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040
like to derogate from in order

1073
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040
to work a residential project in

1074
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,040
a commercial zone. But

1075
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,040
everything else needs to be

1076
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
conforming. If not, they have to

1077
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,040
do the whole thing again.

1078
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
>> So my final point, if anybody

1079
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040
wants to come up, by all means,

1080
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
but my final point before I move

1081
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
on, I would like you to think

1082
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040
about that when you go to vote.

1083
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,040
What you ask the residents to

1084
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040
vote to do versus the amount of

1085
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,040
amendments they've asked for. It

1086
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,040
seems to be 18. I don't think

1087
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,040
I'd be allowed 18 amendments to

1088
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,040
my own property to do. That

1089
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,040
[Applause]

1090
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,040
>> Mister Mayor, can I just say

1091
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,040
something? I was out the

1092
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040
presentation. I spoke to a lot

1093
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040
of you. Please keep in mind what

1094
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,040
the mayor said. It is not a done

1095
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,040
deal. So I know a lot of you are

1096
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,040
here frustrated because I did

1097
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,000
hear you, the night and you were

1098
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000
there with me. It's not a done

1099
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
deal. This is the process. So

1100
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
coming up Ed saying their duties

1101
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
are done deal, it's not.

1102
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
>> I didn't say that. I was

1103
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
asking for clarification and

1104
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
September 20th.

1105
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000
>> In what you saw or may not be

1106
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000
what's going up. The way it

1107
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
looks and everything, it's just,

1108
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
every step is, you know, we're

1109
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000
going --

1110
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000
>> All our bylaws apply here.

1111
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
What you are being presented

1112
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
tonight is exceptions to the

1113
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000
bylaws. All the other bylaws

1114
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
are. Gonna --

1115
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000
>> Like you to consider those

1116
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000
urns exceptions. Thank, you you

1117
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
guys.

1118
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
>> Mayor Bourelle and District

1119
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
councils, I am Jim -- and I live

1120
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000
on Kraft Street. I've been

1121
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
living there for almost 30

1122
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
years. My interest is a little

1123
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,060
different, I think, than the

1124
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,060
construction, the project, the

1125
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:07,060
project itself. My interest is

1126
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:09,060
regarding Beaconsfield seniors,

1127
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:12,060
who are at the point, have lived

1128
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:14,060
there in the community for many

1129
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:18,060
years, who have contributed to

1130
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,060
the community of Beaconsfield in

1131
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:22,060
many ways. Obviously through

1132
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:25,060
taxation but also through

1133
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:28,060
community projects, recreation,

1134
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:30,060
sports, et cetera. And for those

1135
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:33,060
seniors who want to continue to

1136
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:35,060
reside in Beaconsfield, when

1137
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:37,060
they are at the point of age

1138
00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:40,060
where they want to perhaps

1139
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:43,060
downsize and look for housing at

1140
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:45,060
the next stage of their life.

1141
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:48,060
So, for example, when it

1142
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,060
becomes, everybody, I think,

1143
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,060
wants to live in the residence

1144
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,060
for as long as they're capable

1145
00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:54,060
of living. But when it gets the

1146
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:56,060
point where you want to downsize

1147
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,060
and you want to be on a mean for

1148
00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:01,020
dwelling, in a condo or a

1149
00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:03,020
rental, this project seems to be

1150
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:04,020
interesting for that

1151
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:08,020
demographic. And so it seems to

1152
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:13,020
me that there is not space for

1153
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,020
development or much space, if

1154
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:20,020
any, for a project of this type,

1155
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:21,020
that would meet the needs of the

1156
00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:24,020
tape of residence that I have

1157
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:29,020
just presented. I wondered what

1158
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,020
happens to residents who get to

1159
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:35,020
the age where we need to

1160
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:38,020
downsize, but there is nowhere

1161
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:41,020
to go in Beaconsfield. Where do

1162
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:43,020
those aging citizens of

1163
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:47,020
Beaconsfield go? I think they go

1164
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:50,020
to places like, maybe

1165
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:52,020
Pointe-Claire? DDO? Pierrefonds?

1166
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:55,020
But I think that their desire is

1167
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,020
to stay in our community and

1168
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,020
live where we have invested so

1169
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:03,080
much, emotionally, both socially

1170
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,080
and economically, and if this

1171
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,080
project would go to completion,

1172
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,080
and if it was approved and

1173
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,080
built, my question is, is it

1174
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
possible that the people that

1175
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,080
have access to this residential

1176
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,080
project would be prioritized,

1177
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,080
seniors First, citizens of

1178
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Beaconsfield? I don't know the

1179
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,080
gala teeth of it. And if the

1180
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,080
galleries are such that no, that

1181
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
is not something that can be

1182
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080
passed, a compromise, and I'm

1183
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,080
not sure if it's rentals and

1184
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
condos, or just rentals, it's

1185
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,080
not clear to me. But if this

1186
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080
project was to go through to it

1187
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,080
and, I would advocate that

1188
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080
citizens, our citizens who have

1189
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,040
been living here for many many

1190
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
years, have access to this

1191
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
project. So that they can live

1192
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
on one floor. If they need

1193
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,040
something downstairs that they

1194
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,040
can get, through the different

1195
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,040
commercial establishments, to

1196
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,040
meet their daily needs, whether

1197
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
it's a loaf of bread or milk or

1198
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,040
whatever, that they just go

1199
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,040
downstairs. They don't have to

1200
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,040
get on a bus. They don't have to

1201
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
travel in their car. They don't

1202
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
have to take a taxi. There is a

1203
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,040
certain amount of commercial

1204
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040
needs that are available to them

1205
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040
to meet their needs. So I

1206
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,040
suppose that my question is, if

1207
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
it's approved, can the

1208
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,040
residential units be exclusively

1209
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040
for a Beaconsfield seniors, or,

1210
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,040
as a compromise, a significant

1211
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,040
significant proportion be

1212
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,040
allotted for Beaconsfield senior

1213
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,040
citizens so they can continue to

1214
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,040
live in their community that

1215
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,040
they've made a contribution and

1216
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
wish to continue to live in?

1217
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,000
That's my question.

1218
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,000
>> If I may, Mister Mayor?

1219
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
>> Certainly, we will take note

1220
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000
of this. It's exactly why we

1221
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
want you to come tonight, to

1222
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,000
make comments like this so that

1223
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
we can take that into

1224
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
consideration and take note of.

1225
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,000
It I don't know whether Denis

1226
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
can --

1227
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
>> There are multiple aspects of

1228
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000
the question, but one component

1229
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
existing in our bylaw for now,

1230
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
five years, is, all those types

1231
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
of construction, multi family,

1232
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
needs to have the first floor,

1233
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,000
where we have dwellings.

1234
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Everywhere for those type of

1235
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,000
projects, the first ground floor

1236
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
where there is dwellings, they

1237
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
need to be designed as

1238
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,000
adaptable. What it means is that

1239
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
the floor is flat. So a

1240
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
wheelchair can come in. The

1241
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
shower, the bathroom has already

1242
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,000
had the drain in the centre. The

1243
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,060
cabinets are designed to be

1244
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:03,060
modular so they can put a

1245
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,060
wheelchair. So everything is

1246
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,060
ready to go. It's not adapted,

1247
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:10,060
but if somebody gets in there,

1248
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:12,060
is living ten years in a rental,

1249
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,060
we've got confirmation from the

1250
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,060
developer that it is the multi

1251
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,060
family is rental, town houses

1252
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,060
are going to be sold. But if for

1253
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:22,060
some reason you need to adapt

1254
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:24,060
your dwelling, you don't have to

1255
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:26,060
go out. You can do minor

1256
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:28,060
modifications on it and it's

1257
00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:29,060
already adaptable. With the

1258
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:31,060
question of who is allowed to

1259
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:33,060
rent what, that is not,

1260
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:35,060
unfortunately, in the hands of

1261
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,060
the municipality. It's up to the

1262
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:38,060
developer to decide who wants to

1263
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:41,060
rent to. But in terms of who he

1264
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:43,060
wants to read, he is limited

1265
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:46,060
also. He cannot refuse a citizen

1266
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:48,060
from another city just because

1267
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:49,060
he's not from Beaconsfield.

1268
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:50,060
There is not something that

1269
00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:55,060
would fly very well with the

1270
00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,060
law. What

1271
00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:58,060
>> So, if I understand

1272
00:46:58,060 --> 00:47:01,020
correctly, there's a law in

1273
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:04,020
place that would not support,

1274
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:06,020
even in a compromise, a certain

1275
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:09,020
amount of citizens from

1276
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,020
Beaconsfield to have a priority,

1277
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,020
correct?

1278
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:12,020
>> Correct. That would be

1279
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:13,020
discrimination.

1280
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:16,020
>> Yeah, okay. So it's

1281
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:19,020
unfortunate, because I think we

1282
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:21,020
like that kind of housing for

1283
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:23,020
our citizens.

1284
00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:24,020
>> I agree.

1285
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:26,020
>> It will be there. If this

1286
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:27,020
project is completed, it will be

1287
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:32,020
there. And with some adaptable

1288
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:35,020
units, hopefully Beaconsfield

1289
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:37,020
residents will jump on those

1290
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:41,020
units quickly. But we can't

1291
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:44,020
refuse somebody from new moving

1292
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:46,020
into Beaconsfield and buying or

1293
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:47,020
renting a unit. There is no

1294
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:50,020
bylaw that allows that.

1295
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,020
>> All right, well that's my

1296
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:54,020
concern. Thank you for the

1297
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:55,020
opportunity.

1298
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:56,020
>> It's a very legitimate

1299
00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:58,020
concern. I think it has to be

1300
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:01,080
taken into consideration. Thank

1301
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,080
you very much.

1302
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,080
>> Hi Mr. Mayor, members of the

1303
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Council, thank you. My name is

1304
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Stephanie pack. I'm a resident

1305
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,080
of Beaconsfield. My children

1306
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,080
attend a daycare that it's

1307
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,080
impacted by this project. I'm

1308
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,080
not gonna be asking questions

1309
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,080
about the impact and how we can

1310
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,080
assess the impact for the

1311
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,080
daycare, because the director of

1312
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080
the daycare will be focusing on.

1313
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,080
That I have similar questions.

1314
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,080
What is the process to assess

1315
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,080
impact on circulation in the

1316
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
neighbourhood? It's a one lane

1317
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,080
road that we are suggesting to

1318
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,080
put over 100 units on, and

1319
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
arguably some of the worst

1320
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080
intersections, exits being

1321
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Woodland and St. Charles, it's

1322
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
right in the middle of that. So

1323
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,040
that's my first question.

1324
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,040
>> I think there is a traffic

1325
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,040
study.

1326
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,040
>> Yes.

1327
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,040
>> We can consulted. It's right

1328
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040
there.

1329
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,040
>> Okay.

1330
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,040
>> It's on the website. The

1331
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,040
study.

1332
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,040
>> And who conducted that?

1333
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,040
>> A company called -- they

1334
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,040
specialize in those type of

1335
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,040
studies.

1336
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,040
>> And the approved it?

1337
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,040
>> There's nothing to

1338
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,040
disapprove. It's just not an

1339
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,040
issue, based on the study.

1340
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,040
>> Okay. The second question, is

1341
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040
how do you determine the

1342
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,040
referendum inclusion of who can

1343
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
be participating in that?

1344
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,040
>> Well, I'll ask our Clerk here

1345
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,040
to perhaps answer that question.

1346
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,040
There is a number of people,

1347
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,040
based on the zones.

1348
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
>> Could we go back with the

1349
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,040
map? The yellow zone is the

1350
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,040
concern zone, and the zone that

1351
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,040
are touching the yellow zone,

1352
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,000
can ask for to open a register.

1353
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000
So this will be the first

1354
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,000
process. Each zone may ask for a

1355
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000
register. So this is the first

1356
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
step. So depending on the zones

1357
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
that will ask for industry, we

1358
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,000
will know the number of

1359
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
signatures required in the

1360
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
registered.

1361
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000
>> But if you don't leave those

1362
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
old, you capital paid?

1363
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
>> Now. You have to be adjacent

1364
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
to the zone.

1365
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
>> Even if you could be impacted

1366
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000
by the circulation and

1367
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,000
construction?

1368
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000
>> That's the way the law is.

1369
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:38,000
>> Okay. Those are my questions.

1370
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
>> Think you.

1371
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
>> Hello. My name is Amanda. I

1372
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,000
am the director of -- daycare

1373
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,000
center and that's the office

1374
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000
directly affected by this. I'm

1375
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,000
here tonight because I have an

1376
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,000
obligation to ensure the safety,

1377
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,060
security, and well-being of the

1378
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,060
children, and so I am their

1379
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:06,060
voice tonight. What we have

1380
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:08,060
major concerns about this. Some

1381
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:12,060
of those concerns being during

1382
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:13,060
the construction process. The

1383
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:15,060
noise level, the air quality,

1384
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:17,060
these are all things that will

1385
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:21,060
directly impact children. It's

1386
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:23,060
likely a project of the size

1387
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:26,060
going to entail years of

1388
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:29,060
construction, and so for those

1389
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:31,060
children to have that constant

1390
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:33,060
noise, day in and day out, the

1391
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:35,060
majority of those children are

1392
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:36,060
there for a few more hours a

1393
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:39,060
day, 261 days a year. This is

1394
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:41,060
the majority of their childhood

1395
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:45,060
from 1 to 5 years old. My

1396
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:47,060
obligation is to ensure that

1397
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:50,060
those levels can be controlled

1398
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:52,060
at somehow. I don't know how.

1399
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:54,060
This is not my field. But they

1400
00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:57,060
do have a right to have some

1401
00:51:57,060 --> 00:52:00,020
peace in their own home. This is

1402
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:02,020
their second home. And so they

1403
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,020
do have a right to have some

1404
00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:06,020
peace and also some quality air.

1405
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,020
We know that children, the

1406
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:10,020
respiratory rate in the heart

1407
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,020
rate or obviously much quicker

1408
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:13,020
than adults, and so they're

1409
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:15,020
gonna be breathing in a lot more

1410
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:16,020
of those particles than adults

1411
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,020
will. So what can be done, and

1412
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:20,020
have you taken that into

1413
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:22,020
consideration for the children?

1414
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,020
>> There are rules that have to

1415
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,020
be followed. Perhaps Dave can

1416
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:29,020
explain?

1417
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:32,020
>> Control over dust, mainly.

1418
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:33,020
Unfortunately it's a

1419
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:35,020
construction site, so there will

1420
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:38,020
be concrete trucks coming in,

1421
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:39,020
concrete pumps. So, indeed,

1422
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:41,020
there will be disruption, that's

1423
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:43,020
for sure. One thing I could do

1424
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:45,020
is get to in touch with the

1425
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:47,020
promoter and see, with him, what

1426
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:50,020
can be done to mitigate the

1427
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:52,020
problems that you're gonna be

1428
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:54,020
facing. Efforts temporary

1429
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:55,020
temporary wall could be record

1430
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:58,020
or something like that, we could

1431
00:52:58,020 --> 00:53:00,080
sit down with the promoter and

1432
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,080
yourself to see what can be

1433
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,080
done.

1434
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
>> My question to that response

1435
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
would be, those laws around all

1436
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,080
of that bite, who is there to

1437
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,080
ensure that they are actually

1438
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,080
being respected?

1439
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,080
>> We do have inspectors that

1440
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,080
are there.

1441
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,080
>> All the time?

1442
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,080
>> Not all the time.

1443
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,080
>> Okay. --

1444
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080
>> But I'm sorry, if there are

1445
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,080
complaints, we will go for sure.

1446
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,080
>> And are those noise, are

1447
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,080
those regulations geared towards

1448
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
adults at the moment, the way

1449
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
they are written? Or are they

1450
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,080
written with respect to

1451
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,080
children?

1452
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,080
>> For everyone.

1453
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,080
>> For everyone.

1454
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,080
>> I think, that's your question

1455
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,080
I think -- I

1456
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,080
>> Have a lot. We have 80

1457
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,080
children.

1458
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,080
>> Sorry about, we have to give

1459
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,080
everybody a chance.

1460
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080
[Inaudible]

1461
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,040
>> There is a line of people

1462
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,040
there. I think you have had

1463
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,040
three questions. She has asked

1464
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,040
three questions. I will give you

1465
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,040
one more, and that's it.

1466
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040
>> You can come out.

1467
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
>> That's yet. That's. It

1468
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040
>> Okay. Where

1469
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,040
>> You can go back in line

1470
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040
after. You go back online.

1471
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,040
>> One more question and then go

1472
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,040
back in line? Okay. So another

1473
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,040
question would be, the way that

1474
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,040
it is right now, you showed the

1475
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,040
model with the town houses

1476
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,040
having green spaces and in

1477
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,040
proximity to the houses on a

1478
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,040
Boulton. Could we not have town

1479
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,040
houses along our side of the

1480
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,040
wall with some green space

1481
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,040
between the buildings to allow

1482
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
for a more maybe private

1483
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,040
building-type for the children

1484
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,040
of the daycare?

1485
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,040
>> I think it's in the plan, if

1486
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,000
I'm not mistaken.

1487
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
[Inaudible]

1488
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000
>> Again, this is something that

1489
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,000
could be discussed with the

1490
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
developer.

1491
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,000
>> Okay. Welcome back.

1492
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
>> Thank you.

1493
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000
[Applause]

1494
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
>> Hi. I'm Beaconsfield resident

1495
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,000
for over 30 years. My question

1496
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,000
-- closer? Okay. My question

1497
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
actually is concerning

1498
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
information about the developer.

1499
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,000
We know that there was a project

1500
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
on the east side of St. Charles

1501
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,000
that is not completed. We met

1502
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,000
the developer on the 17th, 18th,

1503
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
19th, and I and others

1504
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
specifically asked if the

1505
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,000
developer had completed any

1506
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,060
projects of this size, of this

1507
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:03,060
nature, and we were told yes,

1508
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:05,060
absolutely. We did big winds,

1509
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:08,060
small ones. But when I asked

1510
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:10,060
nutritional details, there was

1511
00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:13,060
none forthcoming. So my concern

1512
00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:17,060
is, my understanding of this is,

1513
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:21,060
a numbered company and this was

1514
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:25,060
registered June of 2022, for a

1515
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:26,060
number of us in this room

1516
00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:28,060
tonight and in the

1517
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:32,060
neighbourhood, that raises some

1518
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:35,060
concerns. We all will have to

1519
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:38,060
live with the decisions that we

1520
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:40,060
make and the results of this

1521
00:56:40,060 --> 00:56:42,060
project, and I think we would

1522
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:46,060
just like to have a little more

1523
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:47,060
information on this development

1524
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:49,060
or development in the type of

1525
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:50,060
projects that have been

1526
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:51,060
completed, and just give us a

1527
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:54,060
bit of confidence that the

1528
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:56,060
pictures that were being shown

1529
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:58,060
and the beautiful trees that

1530
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:00,020
they are planning on putting in

1531
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:02,020
the project, the pictures --

1532
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,020
>> The pictures that have been

1533
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:04,020
shown or not the architectural

1534
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:06,020
design that we will necessarily

1535
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:07,020
approve.

1536
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:08,020
>> Even worse.

1537
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:11,020
>> It hasn't been given to us.

1538
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:13,020
What you have seen, and you are

1539
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:16,020
told was a done deal, is not a

1540
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:17,020
done deal.

1541
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:18,020
>> Understood.

1542
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:19,020
>> Very clear.

1543
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:23,020
>> My question is can we get

1544
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:26,020
some additional information

1545
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:29,020
about the developer that would

1546
00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:33,020
give the neighbourhood some

1547
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:34,020
confidence that we're not going

1548
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:37,020
to end up with another situation

1549
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:40,020
like that. I feel for those

1550
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:43,020
people that unfortunately are

1551
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,020
looking a part of a nice

1552
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:46,020
building that was completed, and

1553
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:48,020
a big hole in the ground, and

1554
00:57:48,020 --> 00:57:49,020
there's not much that can be

1555
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:51,020
done about it at the moment.

1556
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:53,020
Work

1557
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:55,020
>> Jeannine, you have any

1558
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:56,020
information on that?

1559
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:58,020
>> We will talk with a developer

1560
00:57:58,020 --> 00:57:59,020
and see if we can get some

1561
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:03,080
addresses. We know that he's --

1562
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,080
most in the south shore, but we

1563
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
will see what we can get.

1564
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,080
>> Where the projects are

1565
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,080
located is really not an issue.

1566
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,080
It is just, do we have

1567
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,080
experience with this kind of

1568
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,080
project?

1569
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,080
>> And about the completion of

1570
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,080
the project, because it's --

1571
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080
Council can put some condition

1572
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,080
in their decision, so one of

1573
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,080
them could be had a timeframe to

1574
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,080
do the project unless that bylaw

1575
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,080
is not applicable any board, is

1576
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,080
not valid. So, that could be

1577
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,080
something that Council looks at

1578
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,080
when they do. But those are

1579
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,080
elements that they can look at,

1580
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,080
yes, when they approve the

1581
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,080
project.

1582
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
>> So, what you're talking about

1583
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080
is some kind of penalty or

1584
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,080
deposit?

1585
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,080
>> No, it's not a deposit. Well,

1586
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,080
we have a bylaw that prescribes

1587
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,080
that a deposit needs to be

1588
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,080
given, based on the cost of the

1589
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,080
work. But that is a thing, but

1590
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,040
also because that it's sky will

1591
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,040
be, which wasn't the case with a

1592
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,040
damning, it was just a zoning

1593
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,040
change. So, no conditions can be

1594
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,040
imposed by Council with that

1595
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,040
form of bylaw. Compared to this

1596
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,040
one, it can be. Council can put

1597
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,040
some conditions and that could

1598
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,040
be something that can be done

1599
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,040
with --

1600
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
>> That could be a delay to

1601
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,040
complete a construction, for

1602
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,040
instance.

1603
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
>> And if it was not completed

1604
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,040
in time, then what would be the

1605
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,040
consequences?

1606
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,040
>> Well, they would have to

1607
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,040
start over the process of

1608
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,040
getting the approval. That is

1609
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,040
the first thing. And with the

1610
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,040
deposit, there are things that

1611
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,040
the city could do with the

1612
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,040
approval of the courts. Because

1613
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,040
we cannot act, you know,

1614
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040
directly. So, we need a judge to

1615
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,040
tell us that we're allowed to

1616
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040
take those monies to at least

1617
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,040
level the land and stuff like

1618
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,040
that.

1619
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,040
>> Thank you very much.

1620
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,040
>> You are welcome.

1621
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000
>> It's me again. I came back up

1622
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
because one of the lady over

1623
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,000
there had asked a question about

1624
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
the traffic report and I wanted

1625
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
to follow up. So, first, I did

1626
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,000
read it. Forgive me if I've

1627
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,000
missed anything and I pose a

1628
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,000
question and the answers in

1629
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,000
their, because it was in French

1630
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
and I did my best to understand

1631
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
130-page document. As the

1632
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,000
Council read this, okay, did you

1633
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,000
notice that Woodland is excluded

1634
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,000
from the traffic report? And I

1635
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000
think that was the ladies

1636
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
question. So, my question to you

1637
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000
is, will you accept the traffic

1638
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000
report as it stands, knowing

1639
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
that the woodland intersection

1640
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
is a major concern? And is

1641
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,000
excluded from the traffic

1642
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,000
report.

1643
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
[Applause]

1644
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,000
>> We will take a look. We will

1645
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,000
take a look.

1646
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,000
>> Have you read it, sir?

1647
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
>> The report?

1648
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,000
>> Yes.

1649
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,000
>> No, but I've seen the traffic

1650
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,000
at the shopping centre, because

1651
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,000
I was there several times, and

1652
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000
the parking lot was full of cars

1653
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,000
at the time that I was there,

1654
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,060
during the day. So, there is an

1655
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:04,060
awful lot of traffic because of

1656
01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:06,060
the real estate firm that is

1657
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:08,060
there, because of the hospital

1658
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:12,060
that is there. One restaurant

1659
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:15,060
has a delivery service, so there

1660
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:16,060
is already a lot of traffic

1661
01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:19,060
there. So, I'm not sure that, I

1662
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:21,060
think the pattern will be

1663
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:22,060
different because you are

1664
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:24,060
looking at perhaps more traffic

1665
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:27,060
in the morning and at night. But

1666
01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:29,060
overall, I don't think it's

1667
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:31,060
going to be any different.

1668
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:32,060
>> So, the only thing I would

1669
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:34,060
ask is that you read it first

1670
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:35,060
before you have the opinion on

1671
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:36,060
it.

1672
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:37,060
>> We will take a look, thank

1673
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:38,060
you.

1674
01:01:38,060 --> 01:01:41,060
[Applause]

1675
01:01:44,060 --> 01:01:47,060
>> I'm Dave oral, resident of

1676
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:48,060
fairway Drive. Thank you all for

1677
01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:50,060
coming, it shows good community

1678
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:53,060
spirit. My concern, like a lot

1679
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:56,060
of people this evening, is the

1680
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:59,060
volume of traffic that this

1681
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:01,020
particular development is going

1682
01:02:01,020 --> 01:02:03,020
to bring to our neighbourhood.

1683
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:04,020
>> Now, we've already heard

1684
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:06,020
that. So, I don't want to come

1685
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:08,020
back with the same thing.

1686
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:09,020
>> Fair enough. I'm just

1687
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:12,020
elaborating a little bit because

1688
01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:14,020
it is brought up in the other

1689
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:17,020
night at the developer meeting

1690
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:20,020
that there is no sustainable

1691
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:24,020
impact on traffic flow, in our

1692
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:26,020
neighbourhood. It was also

1693
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:29,020
brought up that where are people

1694
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:31,020
going to park? Additional people

1695
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:32,020
going to park.

1696
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:33,020
>> We've already heard that as

1697
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,020
well.

1698
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:35,020
>> Fair enough, fair enough. But

1699
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,020
one thing that I brought up

1700
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:40,020
several times is that the elm

1701
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:43,020
plaza parking lot presently,

1702
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:46,020
with only four possibly people

1703
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:48,020
left in this building, it's

1704
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,020
quite full in the evening, and

1705
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:50,020
these are people that are

1706
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:54,020
parking from the Markham plaza,

1707
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,020
Markham apartments, in that

1708
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:59,020
section. We also have the

1709
01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:02,080
parking lot at Shannon Park,

1710
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,080
which also has fortified six

1711
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
cars every evening from people

1712
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,080
from Markham. Now you're going

1713
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,080
to bring out a whole hundred and

1714
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,080
X number of apartments or town

1715
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,080
houses. These additional people

1716
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,080
coming over for Thanksgiving

1717
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,080
dinner have no place to park.

1718
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,080
There is already a tremendous

1719
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,080
chokehold on the flow of traffic

1720
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,080
in this neighbourhood. Adding

1721
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,080
this number of units is going to

1722
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,080
have a devastating impact. On

1723
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,080
traffic.

1724
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,080
>> We heard this already. I

1725
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
thank you very much, but I want

1726
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,080
to I don't want to hear the same

1727
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,080
questions every time from

1728
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,080
everyone.

1729
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,080
>> Fair enough. Actually, I

1730
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,080
haven't answered a question. I'm

1731
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,080
making a bold statement and I

1732
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,080
think that's what people want to

1733
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,080
hear as well tonight.

1734
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,080
>> Okay, thank you.

1735
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080
[Applause]

1736
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,040
>> Thank you, Mister Mayor and

1737
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,040
councillors. I greatly

1738
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,040
appreciate the opportunity

1739
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,040
you've given us to meet with you

1740
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,040
and raise our concerns. My name

1741
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,040
is Pamela Rice and I live on

1742
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,040
Preston Drive, which is not far

1743
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,040
from where this development is.

1744
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,040
I have a question. One is, if

1745
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,040
I'm not mistaken, you're going

1746
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,040
to be asking for a bylaw

1747
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,040
derogation for 117 units, I

1748
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,040
think I got that correct. How

1749
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,040
did you arrive at that amount,

1750
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,040
in terms of number of units to

1751
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,040
be developed on that relatively

1752
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,040
small space? How did that number

1753
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,040
come out? Why not 120? Why not

1754
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
112? 50?

1755
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,040
>> This was the discussion we

1756
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,040
had with the developer and he

1757
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,040
came up with a first number that

1758
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:52,040
was more like 150 units. And

1759
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,040
slowly, we have been downsizing

1760
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,040
the project to this point.

1761
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040
Obviously, and I'm not the

1762
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,040
developer. I'm working for the

1763
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,000
city, but he is going to be,

1764
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
he's investing in the land, that

1765
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,000
cost him money, he's going to be

1766
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,000
debauch in the building, that

1767
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000
cost money. He probably has to

1768
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,000
have a certain number of units

1769
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,000
in his mind in order to make it

1770
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
profitable and that is all for

1771
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,000
us. We started with about 150.

1772
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000
Downsized it to 117. There were

1773
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,000
16 town houses that we -- if I'm

1774
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,000
not mistaken, down to 13.

1775
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,000
>> On what basis,? I mean, I'm

1776
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000
still concerned about 117, but

1777
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,000
you want for 150 to 117. What

1778
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
was the logic for that?

1779
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,000
>> It's also because other

1780
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
parameters of the bylaw need to

1781
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,000
be conforming, like parking

1782
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,000
spaces. They need to have a good

1783
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,000
ratio and with downsizing, they

1784
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,000
have more than the minimal

1785
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,000
ratio. That is an example and

1786
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,000
also for the green space on the

1787
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
property. It is way bigger than

1788
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,000
what's actually there, at the

1789
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,000
moment. And it's higher than

1790
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
what the bylaw prescribes. So,

1791
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,060
all these elements, they have to

1792
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:05,060
make sure that all the

1793
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:07,060
parameters are conforming in

1794
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:08,060
they're asking for some

1795
01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:09,060
delegation in order for it to

1796
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:12,060
comply. And also because it is a

1797
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:13,060
commercial zoning right now and

1798
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:15,060
they want to put residential.

1799
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:17,060
So, obviously, there are some

1800
01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:18,060
elements that need to be

1801
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,060
addressed with the bylaw.

1802
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:23,060
>> They did also cut by -- to

1803
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:24,060
recess it.

1804
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:26,060
>> I don't oppose

1805
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:27,060
identification. We all know that

1806
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:30,060
this is a crises in Canada, in

1807
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:31,060
terms of housing. And I don't

1808
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:33,060
have a problem with seeing, you

1809
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:35,060
know, more housing in that area.

1810
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:37,060
I find that is an awful lot, in

1811
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:38,060
terms of another traffic

1812
01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:39,060
circulation keeps coming up and

1813
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:43,060
that is an issue. Secondly, we

1814
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:45,060
also know that there is a trend,

1815
01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:46,060
of importance in affordable

1816
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:49,060
housing in Canada. And in some

1817
01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:52,060
cities, they are now passing

1818
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:53,060
bylaws that require developers,

1819
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:56,060
when they develop an area, a

1820
01:06:56,060 --> 01:06:58,060
site, that they must provide

1821
01:06:58,060 --> 01:07:00,020
affordable housing within that

1822
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:01,020
complex. However that may be

1823
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:04,020
done. And I would urge this

1824
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,020
council to really consider that

1825
01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:07,020
because this is one of the

1826
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:08,020
issues in Beaconsfield, is there

1827
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:11,020
is not of affordable housing.

1828
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:14,020
And that limits the diversity in

1829
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:16,020
our population in the city. So,

1830
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:18,020
I would like to just really

1831
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:20,020
consider that. This is happening

1832
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,020
in other cities and I think

1833
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,020
that's really an important

1834
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
factor in looking at this whole

1835
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:28,020
project as well. Thank you.

1836
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:31,020
>> Thank you.

1837
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:34,020
[Applause]

1838
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:37,020
[Speaking French]

1839
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,020
- Je suis pas mal la plus

1840
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:40,020
vieille ici qui demeurent à

1841
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020
Beaconsfield depuis 57 ans!

1842
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:43,020
- Non, non, non.

1843
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:44,020
- Ça fait 57 ans que vous

1844
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:46,020
demeurez ici?

1845
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:47,020
- À Beaconsfield?

1846
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:49,020
- Non, pas 57 ans. Non.

1847
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:54,020
- Moi, ça fait 57 ans.

1848
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:56,020
(applaudissements)

1849
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:57,020
- Il y a des gens qui sont ici

1850
01:07:57,020 --> 01:07:58,020
depuis 50 ce temps.

1851
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:59,020
- Vous me battez, vous me

1852
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:00,080
battez.

1853
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,080
- Alors on le met sur Bolton, en

1854
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
plus? Quand je suis arrivé, moi,

1855
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,080
on a changé le zonage comme ça

1856
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,080
sans nous le dire pour faire un

1857
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,080
centre commercial. Maintenant,

1858
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,080
vous voulez encore changer le

1859
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,080
zonage.

1860
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,080
- Alors vous êtes ici parce

1861
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,080
qu'on vous consulte.

1862
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,080
- Oui, ce sera. Dernièrement,

1863
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,080
depuis quelques années, on a

1864
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,080
voté pour un référendum il y

1865
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,080
avait quelqu'un, on est venu

1866
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,080
voter ici pour un référendum

1867
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080
disant que si on ne voulait pas

1868
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,080
de deuxième étage sur le centre

1869
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,080
d'achats, maintenant, vous

1870
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080
voulez mettre trois étages juste

1871
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,080
en arrière de chez nous? Ça ne

1872
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080
marche pas, là.

1873
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,080
- Non, c'est quatre. C'est

1874
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,080
quatre, ce n'est pas trois.

1875
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,080
- C'est quatre en avant. En

1876
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,080
arrière de chez moi...

1877
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,080
- Trois en arrière de chez vous.

1878
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:47,080
- C'est trois. Alors si moi je

1879
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,080
voudrais mettre trois étages sur

1880
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,080
ma maison, vous diriez non.

1881
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,080
Alors et à part ça, sur Bolton,

1882
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,080
une voisine a demandé, ça lui a

1883
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
pris quatre fois venir vous

1884
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,080
demander pour changer juste la

1885
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,040
façade de sa maison. Vous disiez

1886
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,040
non, vous disiez non. Comment

1887
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,040
vous permettez de mettre trois

1888
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,040
étages? Ça ne marche, pas la

1889
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,040
faire. Définitivement, cette

1890
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,040
personne-là parce que vous vous

1891
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,040
êtes trompé dans les papiers a

1892
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,040
réussi à l'avoir, sinon, vous

1893
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,040
disiez non les quatre fois qu'il

1894
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,040
s'est présenté. Donc le

1895
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,040
troisième étage, nous dit pas

1896
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,040
deux et demi, je ne connais pas

1897
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,040
de maison qui a des moitiés de

1898
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,040
chambre de cuisine. Un étage,

1899
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,040
c'est un étage. Alors trois

1900
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,040
étages, je ne l'accepte pas.

1901
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,040
- Merci.

1902
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,040
(applaudissements)

1903
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,040
>> Hi, I am back. I want to

1904
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,040
address the issue of --

1905
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,040
>> Could you identify yourself,

1906
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,040
please?

1907
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,040
>> Yeah, Amanda, director of the

1908
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,040
-- daycare, yes from the daycare

1909
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,040
right beside. And, so right now

1910
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,040
I would like to address the

1911
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,040
issue of the height of the

1912
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,040
building proposed. And so, on

1913
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
our side of the daycare would be

1914
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,040
four storeys. You know, for us,

1915
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,040
we worry about natural light for

1916
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,000
the children, the impacts that

1917
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,000
the shade could have, some

1918
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,000
studies have been done to

1919
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,000
analyze all of that? And then to

1920
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,000
the same point, right? We are

1921
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
looking at possibly authorizing

1922
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
this and yet, when we ask for a

1923
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,000
second shed in our backyard

1924
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000
assortment period for children

1925
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
and their development, we can't

1926
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
put a door on it because it's

1927
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,000
not allowed.

1928
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,000
[Applause]

1929
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
I just think it's so --

1930
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
>> Thank you.

1931
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
>> That's a comment and we will

1932
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,000
take note of it.

1933
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
>> And in terms of a sudden

1934
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,000
study --

1935
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,000
>> There is a sun study that was

1936
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,000
done.

1937
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,000
>> It's available online if you

1938
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,000
want to go see the documents,

1939
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,000
yeah.

1940
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,000
>> For the whole year.

1941
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,000
>> And the implication?

1942
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,000
>> For the whole year.

1943
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,000
>> Thank you.

1944
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,000
>> Excuse me, what was the site

1945
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,000
study you are referring to?

1946
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,000
>> Shade study.

1947
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,000
>> Shade study? Okay.

1948
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000
>> Mister Mayor, councillors,

1949
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
and guess, my name is Alex Moss.

1950
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,000
I'm a real estate broker here in

1951
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,060
Beaconsfield. My office is on

1952
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:03,060
this, at this address. I'm a

1953
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:04,060
resident of Beaconsfield, I live

1954
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:07,060
on elm, so I know the traffic.

1955
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:10,060
Quite well. And I am here in

1956
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:12,060
support of the project. I must

1957
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,060
say, I appreciate everybody's

1958
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:16,060
comments. I speak with citizens

1959
01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:18,060
on a daily basis. 30, 40 people

1960
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:20,060
every single day in Beaconsfield

1961
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:22,060
because -- Kirkland and I can

1962
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,060
say that there are a lot of my

1963
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:25,060
clients who are elderly living

1964
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:27,060
in homes in Beaconsfield and

1965
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,060
like the gentleman from Alan

1966
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:31,060
Croft said, there is a definite

1967
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:33,060
shortage of apartments. People

1968
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:34,060
always ask me, where am I going

1969
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,060
to move? Well, there is nothing

1970
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:37,060
in Beaconsfield right now, so

1971
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:38,060
this would be very appreciated

1972
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:40,060
for them many, many people that

1973
01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:42,060
I have spoken to. The other

1974
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:44,060
aspect of it is my office. So in

1975
01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:46,060
terms of commercial space, right

1976
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:48,060
now, the building is a

1977
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:50,060
nightmare. The nightmare on elm

1978
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:51,060
street. It's not a great place

1979
01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:52,060
to bring clients. It's quite

1980
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:53,060
embarrassing to bring them there

1981
01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:55,060
and its current state, so we are

1982
01:11:55,060 --> 01:11:57,060
all, all of the conferences that

1983
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:59,060
are within this building, are

1984
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:01,020
very much looking forward to a

1985
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:03,020
new facility that we can be

1986
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:07,020
proud of and that is all.? I

1987
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:08,020
have no questions, I just wanted

1988
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:10,020
to bring that comment from me.

1989
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:11,020
From us.

1990
01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:12,020
>> Thank you very much.

1991
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:17,020
>> Appreciate it.

1992
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:22,020
>> -- west craft, I think

1993
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:23,020
everybody stole my thunder

1994
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:26,020
tonight. Especially Louise, I've

1995
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:29,020
lived on the street for almost

1996
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:32,020
50 years and I was going to

1997
01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:35,020
mention just how big this --

1998
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:36,020
doesn't fit in with our

1999
01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:37,020
neighbourhood but instead I'm

2000
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:40,020
going to ask a question. The

2001
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:43,020
designation of the units has

2002
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:47,020
gone from condo to rental. And I

2003
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:49,020
know that the City was kind of

2004
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:53,020
planning on a lot of welcome tax

2005
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:57,020
from this project. And as far as

2006
01:12:57,020 --> 01:13:00,080
I know, rental units don't

2007
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,080
generate welcome tax. Am I

2008
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,080
correct?

2009
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,080
>> I think so. I don't know of

2010
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,080
any rental unit where we collect

2011
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,080
rental tax or welcome tax, nope.

2012
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,080
That was my only comment.

2013
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,080
>> Yes, thank you, thank you. I

2014
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,080
also agree with you, the more

2015
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,080
condos instead of rental, the

2016
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:26,080
better for us, yes. Yes?

2017
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,080
>> Hello, my name is Tina,

2018
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,080
amorous and --

2019
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,080
>> Lift it up a little bit.

2020
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,080
>> Okay, my name is to know is

2021
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,080
it will, I am a resident of west

2022
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,080
craft and as many people that

2023
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,080
live on Westcott, we know how

2024
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,080
inconvenient construction can

2025
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,080
be, like we've suffered through

2026
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,080
three months when they put in

2027
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,080
the sidewalks, three months

2028
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,080
currently when they're putting

2029
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,080
the water mains, which I don't

2030
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,080
mind because there are

2031
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,080
improvements that our benefit

2032
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,080
from. However, this project

2033
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,080
doesn't really benefit me, but

2034
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,080
my main concern is when I spoke

2035
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,080
to the developer during the open

2036
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,080
house, I asked them how long

2037
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,040
this was going to take and he

2038
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,040
told me, three phases. I said,

2039
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,040
okay, how longer these phases?

2040
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040
18 months. So, if you do the

2041
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,040
math, that's like four and a

2042
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,040
half years and as you all well

2043
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
know, construction projects

2044
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,040
never run on time. So, we're

2045
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,040
looking at 5 to 6 years that we

2046
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,040
have to undergo, we have to be

2047
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,040
in the middle of a construction

2048
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,040
site where there are trucks

2049
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,040
rumbling by, noise, particulate

2050
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,040
being thrown in the air and

2051
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,040
diesel fumes. I was just

2052
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,040
wondering if you guys were aware

2053
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,040
how long this project was going

2054
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,040
to take and the inconvenience

2055
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,040
it's going to cause to all the

2056
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,040
local residents like the lady

2057
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,040
from the daycare mentioned, the

2058
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,040
students that go across the

2059
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,040
bridge to the high school and,

2060
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,040
of course, all the residents in

2061
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,040
the area.

2062
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,040
>> We haven't even submitted the

2063
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,040
project yet. So --

2064
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,040
>> But the the developer told

2065
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040
me, he told me how long it was

2066
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,040
going to take. So, that's what

2067
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,040
concerns me because I did ask

2068
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,040
him the question.

2069
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,000
>> When he summits an

2070
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,000
architectural project, we will

2071
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000
take a look at that.

2072
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,000
>> Okay, well you should be very

2073
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,000
concerned because I am very

2074
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,000
concerned about being in a

2075
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,000
construction zone for five

2076
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,000
years. It is annoying being in a

2077
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,000
construction zone for three or

2078
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,000
four months with the water

2079
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,000
lines, so five years is really

2080
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,000
--

2081
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,000
>> I understand exactly what

2082
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,000
you're saying and certainly,

2083
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,000
that we will take into

2084
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,000
consideration when we have a

2085
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
project. But we don't have a

2086
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,000
project yet.

2087
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,000
>> Okay, I just gotta bring it

2088
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,000
to your attention.

2089
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,000
>> Thank you.

2090
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,000
>> Thank you, Mister Mayor.

2091
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,000
[Applause]

2092
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,000
>> Yes? That's fine, but I see

2093
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,000
there are four people in line

2094
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,000
and okay, five. That will be it.

2095
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Now we are in 15 minutes now, so

2096
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,000
that will be it, in terms of

2097
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
questions. Yes?

2098
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
>> Hi, I'm Nicole cradle, I'm a

2099
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,000
resident of Beaconsfield for the

2100
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,000
last few months and I was going

2101
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,060
to mention what an elderly

2102
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:05,060
gentleman had said about seniors

2103
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:10,060
units. I was going to say that

2104
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:12,060
my concern is that it is not

2105
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:15,060
going to be affordable. It seems

2106
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:17,060
like developers only care about

2107
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:21,060
rich people and I don't think

2108
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:23,060
any of these units are going to

2109
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:26,060
be affordable for anybody. And I

2110
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:28,060
don't think they're all going to

2111
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:29,060
be accessible. Just having the

2112
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:31,060
ground floor be excess-able,

2113
01:16:31,060 --> 01:16:33,060
that is not really fair. All the

2114
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:34,060
units should be accessible if

2115
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:37,060
this is going to go through.

2116
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:41,060
It's not hard to do. It may cost

2117
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:43,060
a little more to build, but it

2118
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:46,060
certainly is better to build it

2119
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:47,060
with a universal design. But it

2120
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:50,060
also needs to be affordable for

2121
01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:51,060
everybody. It is not accessible

2122
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:54,060
if it's not affordable and we

2123
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:58,060
don't need more place for rich

2124
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:01,020
people to move in. We need

2125
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:04,020
affordable housing. I'm, you

2126
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:09,020
know, paying rent as a single

2127
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:14,020
person on disability and it's

2128
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:15,020
1000 a month I'm paying at a

2129
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:18,020
basement apartment I have

2130
01:17:18,020 --> 01:17:20,020
refugees living upstairs, I have

2131
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:21,020
family and they're living in the

2132
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:23,020
same unit. We need affordable

2133
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:25,020
housing and the other thing is I

2134
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:27,020
hope that if there are any trees

2135
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:29,020
on their, I hope that they are

2136
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:31,020
preserved. I'm sure that is in

2137
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:32,020
the bylaw. It doesn't seem like

2138
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:34,020
there really are trees on that

2139
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,020
site. It is good to be building

2140
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:37,020
on already built space.

2141
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:39,020
>> I just want to tell you, we

2142
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,020
haven't seen the architectural

2143
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:42,020
project yet, so --

2144
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:44,020
>> Okay, yeah, so that wouldn't

2145
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:46,020
be debated yet?

2146
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:48,020
>> No, no.

2147
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:51,020
>> Okay, but I think if this is

2148
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:54,020
to go through, it does need to

2149
01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:59,020
be made accessible and

2150
01:17:59,020 --> 01:18:00,080
affordable.

2151
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,080
>> Do you know what the average

2152
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,080
house is, real estate value, a

2153
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,080
valuation in Beaconsfield right

2154
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,080
now? Do you have any idea?

2155
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
>> It's over 1 million.

2156
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,080
>> It's over 1 million, so there

2157
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,080
are rich people in Beaconsfield.

2158
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,080
>> Yes, but what about people

2159
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,080
who are looking for housing?

2160
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,080
>> That's going to be up to --

2161
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,080
once the developer puts together

2162
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,080
an architectural project, it is

2163
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,080
up to him to determine how he's

2164
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,080
going to sell it and how he's

2165
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,080
going to rent it. It's not up to

2166
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,080
us to decide how he is going to

2167
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,080
do that. We can approve the

2168
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,080
architectural project and there

2169
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,080
is a process for that, but after

2170
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,080
that, it is his project and it's

2171
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,080
up to him to lease it for two,

2172
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,080
I'm sorry, but the last person

2173
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:58,080
that just got up, no, no, no,

2174
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,080
sorry. There are five people and

2175
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,040
that is it. Yes so, you know, I

2176
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,040
will take note of that and we

2177
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,040
will pass it on to the, but it's

2178
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,040
up to the developer to determine

2179
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040
what is he's going to put in and

2180
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,040
how much he's going to charge,

2181
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,040
and how much he's going to sell

2182
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,040
those units. It's not up to us

2183
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,040
to determine that. He has to

2184
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,040
make a profit, he has to have a

2185
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,040
viable project, and I'm sure

2186
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,040
he's going to come up with

2187
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,040
something and we are going to

2188
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,040
take a look at it and see if it

2189
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,040
meets what we, what Council is

2190
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,040
ready to adopt. At that point.

2191
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,040
But we are not there yet.

2192
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,040
>> Okay, yeah, the other thing

2193
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,040
is just that I think it seems

2194
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,040
like they're going to be

2195
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,040
removing local businesses and

2196
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,040
those are Third spaces for

2197
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,040
people where they connect. If

2198
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,040
you put in completely

2199
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,040
unaffordable housing for rich

2200
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,040
people, we are going to be

2201
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,000
driving out to other places to,

2202
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,000
you know, more rich, expensive

2203
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,000
stores, and that's not only bad

2204
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,000
for the environment, it also

2205
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000
takes away from the community.

2206
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:16,000
Doesn't add anything to it.

2207
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,000
>> We will take that information

2208
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
and pass it on to the developer.

2209
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,000
>> Mister Mayor?

2210
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000
>> Yes?

2211
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,000
>> There is commercial space as

2212
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,000
scheduled, it's about 10,000

2213
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,000
square feet. We know that there

2214
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
are businesses that are in L

2215
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,000
plaza that will be going back

2216
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,000
there again.

2217
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000
>> Okay, well that is good, but

2218
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,000
it does need to be affordable

2219
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,000
housing. And certainly, you

2220
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,000
could look at putting in a bylaw

2221
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,000
saying that just like a certain

2222
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,000
percentage has to be accessible,

2223
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,000
putting in a bylaw that certain,

2224
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,000
at least a certain percentage

2225
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,000
has to be affordable.

2226
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,000
>> It has to be a viable project

2227
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,000
for the developer and he will

2228
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,000
determine how it's going to be

2229
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,000
done.

2230
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,000
>> Well, it sounds like

2231
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,060
unfortunately the city of

2232
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:02,060
Beaconsfield favours developers

2233
01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:04,060
over citizens and over ordinary

2234
01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:05,060
people.

2235
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:07,060
>> Not at the million dollar

2236
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:09,060
evaluation per homes in

2237
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:11,060
Beaconsfield, I don't think so.

2238
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:13,060
Thank you very much.

2239
01:21:13,060 --> 01:21:15,060
>> Mister Mayor? I would like

2240
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:18,060
to, if I may, I would like to

2241
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:21,060
have you rethink the idea of

2242
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:22,060
that we should put a limit on

2243
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:24,060
five or more people.

2244
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:27,060
>> You can -- on that. He can

2245
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:30,060
vote on that.

2246
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:34,060
>> -- what? No, I said when we

2247
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:37,060
see the architectural project.

2248
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:39,060
>> I'm talking about question

2249
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:40,060
period tonight.

2250
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:42,060
>> Go ahead, the two of you.

2251
01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:46,060
>> Mister Mayor, if you want to

2252
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:49,060
listen, what Councillor Amos is

2253
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:50,060
suggesting is that we allow

2254
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:52,060
everyone that has a question to

2255
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:53,060
ask their question.

2256
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:54,060
>> No.

2257
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:57,060
>> Mister Mayor, I am not done.

2258
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:59,060
>> I am sorry. You are out of

2259
01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:01,020
order and there are five people

2260
01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:04,020
there. An hour and 20 minutes

2261
01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:06,020
and that is it, and if you ask

2262
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:08,020
if, you want to ask questions or

2263
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:09,020
people want to ask you a

2264
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020
questions after, they can go

2265
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:12,020
ahead and you can stay here as

2266
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:14,020
long as they have questions for

2267
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:16,020
you. You are out of order.

2268
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:17,020
>> Mister Mayor?

2269
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:18,020
>> You are out of order.

2270
01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:20,020
>> It is a consultation of the

2271
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:21,020
Municipal --

2272
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:23,020
>> An hour and 15 minutes is

2273
01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:24,020
fine for me.

2274
01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:25,020
>> For you?

2275
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:28,020
>> Yeah. And I'm the chairman!

2276
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:32,020
I'm the chairman of --

2277
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:33,020
[Inaudible]

2278
01:22:33,020 --> 01:22:36,020
>> I'm not asking anybody. If

2279
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:39,020
you don't like it, tough.

2280
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:41,020
>> You are an autocrat.

2281
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:42,020
>> Tough.

2282
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:44,020
>> Excuse me, how about putting

2283
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:46,020
a minimum of one minute, so

2284
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:47,020
people can at least say their

2285
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:49,020
piece? We don't need to have

2286
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:50,020
answers for them. At least

2287
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:51,020
they've come here tonight to ask

2288
01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:52,020
questions.

2289
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:53,020
>> Well, five people, it's an

2290
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:55,020
hour and 20 minutes. There are

2291
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:57,020
plenty of people that have come,

2292
01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:59,020
Roger. If you want to answer

2293
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:03,080
their questions after. Go ahead?

2294
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,080
>> Thing is, I didn't know we

2295
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,080
had a time limit tonight.

2296
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:11,080
>> Normally it was a 7 to 8 --

2297
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,080
>> Seven to 8:00 is the time and

2298
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,080
-- now it's seven to 8:00,

2299
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,080
normally.

2300
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,080
[Inaudible]

2301
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,080
The consultations normally are

2302
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,080
30 minutes. So, right now, we

2303
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,080
are at an hour in 20 minutes and

2304
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,080
I will take those five people

2305
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:32,080
and that is it.

2306
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,080
>> --

2307
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,080
>> And you are back.

2308
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,080
>> I am back, yeah.

2309
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,080
>> I have a lot of concerns.

2310
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,080
>> Mister Mayor? Can I make a

2311
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,080
suggestion? Just so that we can

2312
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,080
all maybe just get through this.

2313
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,080
If anybody else has a question,

2314
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,080
stand up now and we will answer

2315
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,080
those. Everyone has their chance

2316
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,080
and then we get to do a full,

2317
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,080
complete --

2318
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,080
>> That is fine.

2319
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,080
>> If you have a question --

2320
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,080
>> If anybody stands up --

2321
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,080
>> Standup now then you get your

2322
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,080
chance, even if we run over the

2323
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,080
time.

2324
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,040
>> And get in line.

2325
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,040
>> Please get in line, we do

2326
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,040
want to hear from you.

2327
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,040
>> That is it after that.

2328
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,040
>> Thank you.

2329
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,040
>> Good compromise. I like

2330
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,040
compromises from councillors,

2331
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,040
not orders from councillors.

2332
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,040
>> Okay, so Amanda, once again,

2333
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,040
from last part of the Lachance

2334
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,040
they care. My question is with

2335
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,040
regards to you mentioned they

2336
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,040
would have to redo all of the

2337
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:29,040
water system. Would there be an

2338
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,040
effect on our daycare right now

2339
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,040
that's already really bad? Every

2340
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,040
other day, we have groundwater

2341
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,040
and nobody knows why. When you

2342
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,040
have 80 kids and, you know,

2343
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,040
trying to get some clean water,

2344
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,040
it becomes a little bit

2345
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,040
frustrating to have to go out

2346
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040
and buy bottled water all the

2347
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,040
time and nobody seems to have a

2348
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,040
solution for us. So, --

2349
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,040
>> It's not the aqueduct that

2350
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,040
they're touching, it's a storm

2351
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,040
sewer. It's rainwater,

2352
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,040
basically.

2353
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,040
>> So they would not have to do

2354
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,040
anything?

2355
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,040
>> One other reason why you have

2356
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,000
all those -- in front of the

2357
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,000
daycare right now is there

2358
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,000
working on the aqueduct right

2359
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,000
now.

2360
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,000
>> Yes, okay.

2361
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
>> Good evening

2362
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,000
- Bonsoir, Monsieur le Maire et

2363
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,000
les conseillers, mon nom est

2364
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Leylah

2365
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,000
(---)

2366
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,000
et je suis une résidente de

2367
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Beaconsfield depuis plus de 30

2368
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,000
ans. Ma première question pour

2369
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,000
vous, Monsieur le Maire, est

2370
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,000
venu comme ça. Est-ce qu'on est

2371
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,000
à Montréal, est-ce qu'on est au

2372
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Québec, est-ce qu'on est au

2373
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,000
Canada, de voir ce qui se passe

2374
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,000
aujourd'hui? Lorsque vous mettez

2375
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,000
un veto avec vos députés? Avec

2376
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,000
vos conseillers, pardon. Je

2377
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,000
trouve ça inacceptable.

2378
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,000
- Merci.

2379
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,000
- En tant que résidents.

2380
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,000
(applaudissements)

2381
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,000
- Ma deuxième question, si votre

2382
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,000
petite-fille allait à cette

2383
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
garderie, la perle de l'enfance,

2384
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,000
est-ce que votre réaction

2385
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,000
n'aurait pas été différent ce

2386
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,000
soir, et même quand vous avez

2387
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,000
voté pour changer le vote, le 25

2388
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,000
septembre?

2389
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,000
- Pour le 25 septembre?

2390
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,000
- Quand vous avez voté.

2391
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,060
- Non, non, non.

2392
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:02,060
- Je ne sais pas si les

2393
01:26:02,060 --> 01:26:04,060
résidents savent votre décision.

2394
01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:05,060
- Absolument pas, absolument.

2395
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:06,060
Pas

2396
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:07,060
- D'autres décisions n'aurait

2397
01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:08,060
pas été différent et vous ne

2398
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:09,060
serez pas inquiet pour votre

2399
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:10,060
petite-fille qui irait à cette

2400
01:26:10,060 --> 01:26:11,060
garderie?

2401
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:12,060
- Absolument pas.

2402
01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:14,060
- Très. Bien

2403
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:15,060
>> My biggest concern is about

2404
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:17,060
the rental. We have no power or

2405
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:20,060
no control over who will be in

2406
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:22,060
those apartments. Yesterday on

2407
01:26:22,060 --> 01:26:27,060
CTV, there was a bulletin about

2408
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:29,060
the fire that took place in

2409
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:31,060
place develop where there was an

2410
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:34,060
Airbnb. I'm wondering if the

2411
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:36,060
promoter will have control on

2412
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:41,060
who will be renting and will be

2413
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:42,060
subletting.

2414
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:44,060
>> If you are talking Airbnb?

2415
01:26:44,060 --> 01:26:45,060
>> Yes.

2416
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:46,060
>> We have rules and

2417
01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:47,060
regulations.

2418
01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:50,060
>> Oh, there are rules, yes, but

2419
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:51,060
-- yesterday on the news --

2420
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:55,060
>> Do you have a say on when who

2421
01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:58,060
buys the house next door to you?

2422
01:26:58,060 --> 01:26:59,060
>> That's why we are here

2423
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:00,020
tonight. It's to discuss this

2424
01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:01,020
and to --

2425
01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:04,020
>> Do you have a say?

2426
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020
>> Tonight, we have a say that

2427
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:07,020
maybe there are way too many

2428
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:09,020
apartments to be rented in this

2429
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:11,020
complex. As a resident who loves

2430
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:13,020
Beaconsfield, me and my husband,

2431
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:15,020
my kids grew up here and I wish

2432
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:17,020
one day that my son would come

2433
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:19,020
and live in Beaconsfield. I

2434
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:21,020
don't want him to see this big,

2435
01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:23,020
huge building and we don't know

2436
01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:28,020
who will throw on the other --

2437
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:30,020
who cannot throw something Les

2438
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:31,020
cours des gens qui ont leur

2439
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:32,020
maison. On their backyard? Who

2440
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:35,020
can throw a jelly with weed on

2441
01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:36,020
the daycare? So, I am worried

2442
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:40,020
and this is my concern.

2443
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:43,020
>> Thank you. Yes?

2444
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:45,020
>> Yes, my name is Patricia, I

2445
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:47,020
also lived in Beaconsfield for

2446
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:48,020
30 years. I am a mother of a

2447
01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:50,020
child who goes to this daycare

2448
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:52,020
and I share all the concerns

2449
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:53,020
that Amanda has mentioned, if

2450
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:55,020
not more. I would just like to

2451
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,020
mention from the get-go that

2452
01:27:56,020 --> 01:28:00,080
this is a public assembly where

2453
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,080
we are asked to give our opinion

2454
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,080
on a major complex project that

2455
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,080
has a significant impact on its

2456
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,080
environment based on what you

2457
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,080
are hearing, there are major

2458
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,080
concerns and everyone here has a

2459
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,080
right to speak fully and give

2460
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080
their opinion, and raised their

2461
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,080
concerns. There should not be

2462
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,080
any limit to the concerns of

2463
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,080
individuals for a public

2464
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,080
assembly, in virtue of the law

2465
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,080
and your bylaws.

2466
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,080
>> I probably have heard every

2467
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:30,080
concern already, so, I mean, --

2468
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,080
>> I also don't think there

2469
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,080
should be a debate between the

2470
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,080
members of the council and the

2471
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,080
public, who are raising very

2472
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,080
legitimate concerns.

2473
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,080
>> Thank you.

2474
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,080
>> So, myself, I have followed

2475
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,080
this project from the beginning,

2476
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,080
since I've heard about it. I

2477
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,080
have read all the documents that

2478
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,080
were on the City website. I went

2479
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,080
to the developers meeting last

2480
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,080
week, where I did not get much

2481
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,080
info about this project. I had

2482
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,080
some concerns. My concerns were

2483
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,080
not answered during that meeting

2484
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,040
either. I have to mention from

2485
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
the get-go that I believe there

2486
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,040
is a lack of information about

2487
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,040
this project. We are now, for

2488
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,040
the first time, seeing on the

2489
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,040
PowerPoint that the city where

2490
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,040
the lots are situated, where the

2491
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,040
setbacks are situated. We didn't

2492
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,040
have this information at all

2493
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,040
before today. I was trying,

2494
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:22,040
myself, to understand the public

2495
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,040
consultation notice that was

2496
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,040
only wording with no plans

2497
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,040
whatsoever for such a major

2498
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,040
project.

2499
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,040
>> What plans are you talking

2500
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,040
about?

2501
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,040
>> Well, normally, Mister Mayor,

2502
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,040
we would see, I believe, in this

2503
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,040
type of project, a sort of plan

2504
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,040
that would explain, that would

2505
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,040
describe the setbacks that

2506
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,040
you're mentioning.

2507
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:42,040
>> You're talking about an

2508
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,040
architectural approach?

2509
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,040
>> I'm talking about what's

2510
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,040
putting --

2511
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,040
>> I agree that was on the

2512
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,040
website.

2513
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,040
>> No, it was not, in fact.

2514
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,040
There was no plan that I saw,

2515
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,040
other than the zones that are

2516
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,040
entitled to vote. That was at

2517
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,040
the end of your public notice.

2518
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,040
>> Make sure that I understand

2519
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,000
what was on the website.

2520
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,000
>> -- on the website.

2521
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,000
>> It is.

2522
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,000
>> The documents were on the

2523
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,000
website? They were available,

2524
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,000
they have been since the public

2525
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,000
notice was published.

2526
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,000
>> What I'm saying is it was

2527
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,000
very difficult for us to

2528
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,000
visualize what was written in

2529
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,000
the public notice, until today,

2530
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
and even then, it was not very

2531
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,000
easy to see what you are

2532
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,000
referring to, where the lots,

2533
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,000
the limitation and I believe

2534
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,000
that in other projects, we would

2535
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,000
have more details, which I did

2536
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,000
not see in this large scale

2537
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,000
project.

2538
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,000
>> Can I just ask a question,

2539
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,000
for clarification? Because

2540
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,000
tonight for me, anyway, I would

2541
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,000
like to hear from residents

2542
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,000
around specific things that were

2543
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,000
presented both online and

2544
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,000
tonight that are, you know, of

2545
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,000
concern to you. Like, I

2546
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
understand there's a certain

2547
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,000
emotionality in the room, but if

2548
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,000
we could just step away from it

2549
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,000
also now talk about what

2550
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,000
aspects, you know, concretely.

2551
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,000
>> Absolutely, yeah, I'm just

2552
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,060
bringing up facts. For me, one

2553
01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:02,060
thing that is clear from these

2554
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:04,060
documents is that we are talking

2555
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:06,060
about a major project of four

2556
01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:10,060
storeys. 117 units, fully

2557
01:31:10,060 --> 01:31:11,060
residential, with the front wall

2558
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:16,060
that does 110 metres long. Four

2559
01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:18,060
storeys when the bylaw allows

2560
01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:19,060
two storeys and there is a

2561
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:21,060
reason why the bylaw allows for

2562
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:24,060
two storeys in this area. 110

2563
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:26,060
metres one normally, it should

2564
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:29,060
be 60 metres. I don't believe

2565
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:33,060
that this project, this project

2566
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:36,060
raises major concerns for the

2567
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:38,060
daycare. I do not believe it is

2568
01:31:38,060 --> 01:31:42,060
compatible to build 117 unit

2569
01:31:43,060 --> 01:31:46,060
building fully rental, directly

2570
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:49,060
adjacent to a daycare. I have

2571
01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:52,060
not seen any concern about this

2572
01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:53,060
daycare throughout the meetings

2573
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:54,060
that I attended, throughout the

2574
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,060
documentation before it was

2575
01:31:55,060 --> 01:32:00,020
raised by our director. It

2576
01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:02,020
raises security questions for

2577
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:05,020
the children, privacy questions.

2578
01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:08,020
The tenants will be occupying

2579
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:11,020
their balconies have the full

2580
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:13,020
right to smoke marijuana, drink

2581
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:14,020
whatever they want, all the more

2582
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:15,020
that we don't even know who will

2583
01:32:15,020 --> 01:32:17,020
be the people that will be

2584
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:20,020
coming into this building, since

2585
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:22,020
there's no right to request

2586
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:27,020
seniors to be there in priority.

2587
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:29,020
It does not seem to me that we

2588
01:32:29,020 --> 01:32:30,020
took into consideration the

2589
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:32,020
interests of these vulnerable

2590
01:32:32,020 --> 01:32:33,020
population, which are the

2591
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:37,020
children. And your own bylaw in

2592
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:41,020
the -- allows, defines

2593
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:46,020
criteria's regarding -- and I

2594
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:47,020
don't see that being addressed

2595
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:50,020
at all tonight. L'by the

2596
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:51,020
ensoleillement, le vent, la

2597
01:32:51,020 --> 01:32:55,020
pluie, la circulation. City. So,

2598
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:58,020
in conclusion, I believe that

2599
01:32:58,020 --> 01:33:01,080
this is a very high density

2600
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,080
project that simply does not

2601
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,080
meet the criteria of your own

2602
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,080
bylaw on -- it does not

2603
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,080
integrate at all with the small

2604
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,080
community that surrounds it and

2605
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,080
this is why you have so many

2606
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,080
concerns tonight that need to be

2607
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,080
heard. Thank you.

2608
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,080
[Applause]

2609
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,080
>> Hi, my name is Corey, I live

2610
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,080
on west Croft. I've been in

2611
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,080
Beaconsfield for almost 20 years

2612
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,080
and I've been on west craft for

2613
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,080
almost ten. Two things. I didn't

2614
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,080
hear anyone mention the sewer

2615
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,080
infrastructure and capacity to

2616
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,080
hold another 100 and something

2617
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:41,080
toilets, 200 sinks, 200 watching

2618
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,080
machines. Has there been any

2619
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,080
study that's actually looked at

2620
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,080
that capacity and seen if it can

2621
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,080
handle it? --

2622
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,080
>> Very good question.

2623
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,080
>> I'm on west craft. We've had

2624
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,080
numerous sewer backups in our

2625
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,080
basements in the past ten years

2626
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,080
that I've been there.

2627
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,040
>> We did show the project to P

2628
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,040
W networks. They did confirm to

2629
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,040
us that there was no problem

2630
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,040
with the aqueduct in the sewer.

2631
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,040
>> I find that hard to believe

2632
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,040
because --

2633
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:13,040
>> --

2634
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,040
>> We have had basements backing

2635
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,040
up with, you know, water from

2636
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,040
the sewer, not from, you know,

2637
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,040
rainwater. This is sewage water.

2638
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,040
So, I would take that into

2639
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,040
consideration.

2640
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,040
>> Well, we will take it into

2641
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,040
consideration --

2642
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,040
>> It's coming directly from

2643
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,040
elm, backs up the west borough.

2644
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,040
>> That's a good point and I

2645
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,040
will take into consideration,

2646
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,040
yes.

2647
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,040
>> My second point is I'm not a

2648
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,040
stranger to the current process.

2649
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,040
I've been here ten years, I've

2650
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,040
gotten many permits. A few years

2651
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,040
back, I got a permit for a shed.

2652
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,040
I asked what the minimum was. I

2653
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:45,040
asked if I could do it a little

2654
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,040
bit over the minimum and I was

2655
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,040
told I was not allowed. I asked,

2656
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,040
sorry, the maximum. I asked what

2657
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,040
the process was to get an

2658
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,040
exception to the bylaw to, go

2659
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,040
through this process. And I was

2660
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,000
not given that opportunity as a

2661
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,000
regular resident. What is ironic

2662
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,000
is --

2663
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,000
>> When it was this?

2664
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,000
>> This was maybe six or seven

2665
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,000
years ago. What is ironic is

2666
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,000
that not 12 months after I

2667
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,000
finished my shed, the amendments

2668
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,000
were, the bylaws were amended to

2669
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,000
allow bigger sheds. So, it

2670
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
clearly was not an issue of, you

2671
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,000
know, it didn't fit within the

2672
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,000
area. So, I would just requests

2673
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,000
that the developer be treated

2674
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
the same way as all the

2675
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,000
neighbouring residents and stick

2676
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:30,000
to the setbacks, stick to the

2677
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,000
height limits and all the other

2678
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,000
restrictions that are imposed.

2679
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:40,000
>> Thank you.

2680
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,000
>> Testing, all right, sorry.

2681
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,000
So, Mister Mayor, council men

2682
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,000
and women, hello. My name is

2683
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,000
Christine, I'm a resident of

2684
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,000
Beaconsfield for the last two

2685
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,000
and a half years now. I've done

2686
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,000
real estate development and

2687
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
financing with developers in

2688
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,000
town for about 18 years. So,

2689
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,000
when I came here tonight, I can

2690
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,060
both as a resident, but also as

2691
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:04,060
an observer. So, what I have to

2692
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:06,060
offer is a recommendation, a

2693
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:08,060
humble recommendation. I think

2694
01:36:08,060 --> 01:36:09,060
the communities very well

2695
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:11,060
served, in terms of voicing

2696
01:36:11,060 --> 01:36:12,060
comments and questions that are

2697
01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:14,060
all quite legitimate. And I

2698
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:16,060
think it is a great forum for

2699
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:19,060
hearing people out and for the

2700
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:20,060
council to take in those

2701
01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:22,060
comments. So, with that, I'm

2702
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:25,060
going to offer a very practical

2703
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:27,060
recommendation. I do believe

2704
01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:29,060
that, I mean, what I've heard

2705
01:36:29,060 --> 01:36:30,060
tonight throughout the night is

2706
01:36:30,060 --> 01:36:31,060
clearly a problem with the

2707
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:33,060
integration of the project and

2708
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:34,060
its neighbouring urban

2709
01:36:34,060 --> 01:36:36,060
landscape. So, there's clearly,

2710
01:36:36,060 --> 01:36:37,060
in terms of urban planning, it

2711
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:38,060
might need to be revisited in

2712
01:36:38,060 --> 01:36:42,060
terms of how it merges with the

2713
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:45,060
neighbouring lots. When you look

2714
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:47,060
at the F A R of the project, it

2715
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:49,060
is 1.8. Typically for lots in

2716
01:36:49,060 --> 01:36:50,060
this neighbourhood, and in

2717
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:51,060
general in residential sectors,

2718
01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:53,060
you would see an F A R of up to

2719
01:36:53,060 --> 01:36:57,060
one. So, 1.8 is quite high. Now,

2720
01:36:57,060 --> 01:37:00,020
obviously, I think even though

2721
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,020
there is tension, there's

2722
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:02,020
obvious tension tonight, we're

2723
01:37:02,020 --> 01:37:03,020
all partners in this. The

2724
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:05,020
community, the City, the

2725
01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:06,020
developer as a corporate

2726
01:37:06,020 --> 01:37:07,020
citizen. Everybody is going to

2727
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:10,020
need to agree at some point. I

2728
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:11,020
would urge the Council to

2729
01:37:11,020 --> 01:37:15,020
revisit the F A R and to really

2730
01:37:15,020 --> 01:37:16,020
work with the developer to

2731
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:18,020
adjust the heights at the limit

2732
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:21,020
of the lots. The developer can

2733
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:23,020
clearly work on reducing heights

2734
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:25,020
and reducing the number of

2735
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:26,020
floors in certain sectors that

2736
01:37:26,020 --> 01:37:27,020
are closer to the limit of the

2737
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:29,020
lots, while maintaining

2738
01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:31,020
profitability of his project.

2739
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:32,020
The other point I would urge you

2740
01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:34,020
to do is revisit the traffic

2741
01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:37,020
study with the engineers if --

2742
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:38,020
wasn't taken into account

2743
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:39,020
because that's a major issue for

2744
01:37:39,020 --> 01:37:40,020
their numbers. What I read in

2745
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,020
the report is that on morning

2746
01:37:42,020 --> 01:37:45,020
traffic, it's about 225 cars on

2747
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:47,020
elm. And the project would add

2748
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:50,020
about 75. So, if Woodland is not

2749
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:51,020
considered, then it doesn't

2750
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:53,020
surprise me that the levels

2751
01:37:53,020 --> 01:37:55,020
maintain a very acceptable

2752
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:57,020
amount. But if you enter

2753
01:37:57,020 --> 01:37:59,020
woodland into the equation, your

2754
01:37:59,020 --> 01:38:00,080
engineers might find other

2755
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,080
results. I'm not sure I am an

2756
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,080
expert, but I will urge them to

2757
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,080
revisit that study. And I would

2758
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,080
say at the very end, you know,

2759
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,080
you want the whole community to

2760
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,080
support the project. You want to

2761
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,080
be welcome. For the developers

2762
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,080
as well, we're going to want to

2763
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,080
have fun on the site for the

2764
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,080
next few years. I know this

2765
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,080
construction, it will bring a

2766
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,080
lot of issues. But ultimately,

2767
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,080
you want the community to back

2768
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,080
it up and right now, clearly,

2769
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,080
they are not. So, I think

2770
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,080
there's a real effort to be made

2771
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,080
to maybe reduce some of the

2772
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,080
Heights, to work on the privacy

2773
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,080
issues, both for the daycare and

2774
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:32,080
the houses on both ends, the

2775
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,080
work on the number of parking

2776
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,080
and cars, and units that you're

2777
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,080
willing to enter into your socks

2778
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,080
SCAOPI. Good luck, thank you.

2779
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,080
>> Thank you, thank you very

2780
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,080
much. May

2781
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:50,080
>> I just want to mention, if my

2782
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,080
service can be useful pro bono

2783
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,080
as a citizen, feel free to

2784
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,080
contact me. It'll be my

2785
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,080
pleasure.

2786
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,080
[Laughter]

2787
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,080
Thank you.

2788
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,040
>> Good evening, everyone, my

2789
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,040
name is -- I'm a resident of

2790
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:03,040
avenue -- but my daughter goes

2791
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,040
to the deck or -- neighbouring

2792
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,040
to the project that we're

2793
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,040
talking about. So, my main

2794
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,040
concern for tonight is the

2795
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,040
safety, especially during the

2796
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,040
construction period, which as we

2797
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,040
talked about, in best case in

2798
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,040
areas, they go like four and a

2799
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,040
half, five years. And with the

2800
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,040
heights of the project, it only

2801
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
takes one brick to fall and

2802
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,040
create a disaster. So, that is

2803
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,040
why it's very concerning for me

2804
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,040
in the future for all the kids

2805
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,040
that are going to the daycare

2806
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,040
and the backyard of the daycare

2807
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,040
is facing the project. So,

2808
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,040
that's very, very concerning.

2809
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,040
The second point that I want to

2810
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,040
bring up is the referendum. So,

2811
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,040
I found it unfair that only the

2812
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,040
neighbouring or adjacent lots

2813
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,040
are allowed to participate and

2814
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:50,040
register in the referendum. I

2815
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,040
think the parents of the daycare

2816
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,040
who are pretty much the second

2817
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,040
home from them should be or

2818
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,000
pretty much eligible to be

2819
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,000
participating in the --

2820
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,000
>> Thank you. We are following

2821
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,000
the law.

2822
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,000
>> The developer apparently is

2823
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,000
not, so they have like 18

2824
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,000
minutes.

2825
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,000
>> Well, we have to follow --

2826
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,000
register and the referendum.

2827
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,000
Follow the law. Thank you.

2828
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,000
>> I just wanted to bring that

2829
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000
up.

2830
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,000
>> Thank you.

2831
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,000
[Applause]

2832
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,000
>> Good evening, Council, thank

2833
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,000
you for your time, thank you for

2834
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,000
your time. My name is Tanya, I'm

2835
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,000
a resident of fairway. I'm just

2836
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,000
a very brief question. So, the

2837
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,000
traffic report is dated for

2838
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:30,000
August 3rd. So, I'm presuming it

2839
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,000
was done over the summer. Would

2840
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,000
it be possible to get it

2841
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,000
reconnected during the school

2842
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,000
year? Considering that there are

2843
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,000
three schools bordering elm? You

2844
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,000
have B H S, you have the French

2845
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,000
primary school, you have a

2846
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,000
daycare, then there's another

2847
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,000
school. You also have parents

2848
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,000
driving children on elm to the

2849
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,000
train station, so would it be

2850
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,000
possible to get it read undoing

2851
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,000
the school year?

2852
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,000
[Applause]

2853
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,000
>> If I may, if I'm not

2854
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,000
mistaken, the accounting's were

2855
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,000
done somewhere at the beginning

2856
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,000
of June. I can check that out

2857
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:58,000
for you.

2858
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,000
>> Okay, thank you.

2859
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,060
>> I did and I believe it was

2860
01:41:01,060 --> 01:41:03,060
done on a Monday, sometime in

2861
01:41:03,060 --> 01:41:07,060
May. So, I'm guessing the May

2862
01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:08,060
15th or something.

2863
01:41:08,060 --> 01:41:09,060
>> --

2864
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:10,060
>> We don't conduct those types

2865
01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:11,060
of studies during the summer,

2866
01:41:11,060 --> 01:41:12,060
for obvious reasons.

2867
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:13,060
>> Okay, I thought I saw June on

2868
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:14,060
the report.

2869
01:41:14,060 --> 01:41:16,060
>> That's when it was submitted.

2870
01:41:16,060 --> 01:41:18,060
>> Submitted and publishers

2871
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:19,060
August 3rd is the date? Okay,

2872
01:41:19,060 --> 01:41:22,060
thank you.

2873
01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:26,060
>> Thank you.

2874
01:41:26,060 --> 01:41:27,060
>> Hi, my name is Carolyn

2875
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:28,060
Laurent, I live on West Croft.

2876
01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:30,060
In fact, I have a new neighbour

2877
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:32,060
and I want to thank you for

2878
01:41:32,060 --> 01:41:34,060
being so courageous the last

2879
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:35,060
three weeks putting up with us.

2880
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:37,060
Thank you. And for meeting the

2881
01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:41,060
architect. We have some concerns

2882
01:41:41,060 --> 01:41:42,060
and you are part of our

2883
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:45,060
neighbourhood. And I think our

2884
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:46,060
city has worked really hard to

2885
01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:50,060
put together some really good

2886
01:41:50,060 --> 01:41:53,060
bylaws that create an ambiance

2887
01:41:53,060 --> 01:41:54,060
have wellness for our community,

2888
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:55,060
and I think the greatest piece

2889
01:41:55,060 --> 01:41:57,060
here that I'm hearing is the

2890
01:41:57,060 --> 01:42:00,020
shake of that. We want a new

2891
01:42:00,020 --> 01:42:02,020
development. But we also want

2892
01:42:02,020 --> 01:42:04,020
the hard work that has gone in

2893
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:06,020
for the last decades, from our

2894
01:42:06,020 --> 01:42:08,020
workers here at the city and our

2895
01:42:08,020 --> 01:42:09,020
councils, with the bylaws that

2896
01:42:09,020 --> 01:42:11,020
have been put in place to

2897
01:42:11,020 --> 01:42:13,020
maintain our culture, to be

2898
01:42:13,020 --> 01:42:17,020
respected. And on that note, I'm

2899
01:42:17,020 --> 01:42:18,020
looking at there are several big

2900
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:20,020
projects happening in

2901
01:42:20,020 --> 01:42:23,020
Beaconsfield, and my concern is,

2902
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:25,020
do we have the capacity, the man

2903
01:42:25,020 --> 01:42:27,020
power to make sure these

2904
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:28,020
projects are supported by the

2905
01:42:28,020 --> 01:42:33,020
City? But we have people there

2906
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:36,020
and available to make sure the

2907
01:42:36,020 --> 01:42:38,020
environmental issues are being

2908
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:42,020
addressed, that access is being

2909
01:42:42,020 --> 01:42:44,020
maintained, that our cities are

2910
01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:46,020
being cleared, you know? And all

2911
01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:50,020
of those tangible pieces, do we

2912
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:52,020
have the manpower within our

2913
01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:54,020
city to handle not only this

2914
01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:55,020
project, but several other

2915
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:56,020
projects that are happening at

2916
01:42:56,020 --> 01:42:57,020
the same time right now? So,

2917
01:42:57,020 --> 01:43:00,080
that's maybe something to be

2918
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,080
considered that has not been

2919
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,080
kind of on the plate tonight.

2920
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,080
And my request is around

2921
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,080
topography. A lot of the

2922
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,080
beautiful pictures have been

2923
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:13,080
with the angle from fairway,

2924
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,080
with the town houses which, in

2925
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,080
fact, is probably one of the

2926
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,080
highest points. I am in the back

2927
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,080
corner and I have the lowest

2928
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,080
point. And some of my neighbours

2929
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,080
who have at least a metre and a

2930
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,080
half over me have come tonight

2931
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,080
talking about sewage backup

2932
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:31,080
that's happened frequently over

2933
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,080
the last decade. I have a lot of

2934
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,080
issues with water and so to my

2935
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,080
neighbours. So when we're

2936
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,080
talking typographical and we are

2937
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,080
talking about water does not

2938
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:48,080
flow uphill,. So, my request is,

2939
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,080
can we look at the setting of

2940
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,080
these new buildings, with

2941
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,080
regards to the back corner of

2942
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,080
lot, in regards to my property

2943
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,040
and the leases property, Jason's

2944
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,040
property? Because one of the

2945
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,040
pieces you put out was about how

2946
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:08,040
the privacy fences on the first,

2947
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,040
and my language may not be

2948
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:11,040
translating --

2949
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,040
>> It's on the site.

2950
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:16,040
>> Right, what are those privacy

2951
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,040
fences over are six foot fences?

2952
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,040
Do you know what I'm saying?

2953
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,040
>> They probably are.

2954
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,040
>> And that's a concern. So, how

2955
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,040
many of you have your

2956
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,040
neighbour's six foot fence over

2957
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,040
your six foot fence? So that

2958
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,040
when they stand in their living

2959
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,040
room, they are looking over your

2960
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,040
six foot fence into your

2961
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,040
backyard? And that is the first

2962
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,040
floor. So, if we are proposing

2963
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,040
three and four floors and -- you

2964
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:51,040
know, the fourth floor is --

2965
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,040
well, you're a great architect,

2966
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,040
you made great use of the space

2967
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,040
and having an outdoor space for

2968
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,000
people to sit is ideal. But that

2969
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:05,000
means it's an extra access

2970
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,000
viewpoint for us and when I

2971
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,000
purchased my home, I purchased

2972
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,000
it with certain bylaws and my

2973
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,000
property market will go down. It

2974
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,000
is my largest investment and it

2975
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,000
will go down if I have four

2976
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:18,000
storeys looking into my house.

2977
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,000
And it comes back to, what did I

2978
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,000
buy into? I bought into a bylaw

2979
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:23,000
that said no more than two

2980
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,000
storeys. And I would like that

2981
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,000
respected. So, that is my

2982
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,000
request and if those type of

2983
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,000
graffiti pictures from the

2984
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:34,000
corner of our lots could be just

2985
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,000
for a visual, that would be

2986
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,000
helpful.

2987
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,000
>> --

2988
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,000
>> Thank you.

2989
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,000
>> Thank you.

2990
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,000
>> And thank you.

2991
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,000
[Applause]

2992
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,000
>> Just concerning the intimacy

2993
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,000
walls, they cannot be higher

2994
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,000
than 3.2 metres, so it wouldn't

2995
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,000
be a six foot fence, it would be

2996
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,000
less higher than the regular

2997
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,000
fence because it is an intimacy

2998
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,000
wall. I just wanted to nuance

2999
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,000
that point.

3000
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,060
>> So, concerning the traffic

3001
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:02,060
study, one of the

3002
01:46:02,060 --> 01:46:04,060
recommendations was to put

3003
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:08,060
sidewalks on fairway and

3004
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:11,060
Brighton. So, my question is,

3005
01:46:11,060 --> 01:46:14,060
what the City commit to getting

3006
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:15,060
those sidewalks installed prior

3007
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:17,060
to the construction? And who is

3008
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:19,060
going to pay for those

3009
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:24,060
sidewalks? Thank you.

3010
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:31,060
>> Hi, my name is Shawn

3011
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:33,060
Thibault, I've been in

3012
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:36,060
Beaconsfield since 2017, so I

3013
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:37,060
bought just in time.

3014
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:41,060
[Laughter]

3015
01:46:41,060 --> 01:46:45,060
I'm just wondering. It is such a

3016
01:46:45,060 --> 01:46:47,060
big lot. Is there not another

3017
01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:49,060
concept that could've been

3018
01:46:49,060 --> 01:46:50,060
brought that conforms better to

3019
01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:54,060
the -- or is it just all about

3020
01:46:55,060 --> 01:46:56,060
profit?

3021
01:46:56,060 --> 01:46:58,060
>> That is the only submission

3022
01:46:58,060 --> 01:47:01,020
we've had.

3023
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:02,020
>> And you mentioned that some

3024
01:47:02,020 --> 01:47:04,020
of the businesses are going to

3025
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,020
be moved to the new area from

3026
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:08,020
the plaza.

3027
01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:11,020
>> That's the developers said.

3028
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:13,020
>> But what business is going to

3029
01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:14,020
shut down for four years and

3030
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:15,020
then reopen?

3031
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:17,020
>> They won't, it will be

3032
01:47:17,020 --> 01:47:19,020
constructed in phases, so they

3033
01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:20,020
will not be any disruption for

3034
01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:22,020
those businesses, for that main

3035
01:47:22,020 --> 01:47:23,020
reason.

3036
01:47:23,020 --> 01:47:24,020
>> So, they're going to leave

3037
01:47:24,020 --> 01:47:25,020
the existing building the way it

3038
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:26,020
is?

3039
01:47:26,020 --> 01:47:27,020
>> Part of it, yes.

3040
01:47:27,020 --> 01:47:29,020
>> Build a new -- okay.

3041
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:32,020
[Inaudible]

3042
01:47:35,020 --> 01:47:37,020
>> Next comment is, the building

3043
01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:40,020
right now is dumpy and not taken

3044
01:47:40,020 --> 01:47:41,020
care of. Is there a way that if

3045
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:43,020
this doesn't go through, that

3046
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:44,020
you guys make sure that the

3047
01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:46,020
owner of that building can set

3048
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:51,020
it up a little better? And my

3049
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:54,020
last comment to end the night, I

3050
01:47:54,020 --> 01:47:56,020
guess, is judging by the

3051
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:58,020
attitude of people at this

3052
01:47:58,020 --> 01:47:59,020
meeting, it is going to really

3053
01:47:59,020 --> 01:48:03,080
make me rethink 2025 decision.

3054
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:04,080
>> Great.

3055
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,080
[Applause]

3056
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:15,080
>> This brings us to the end of

3057
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,080
the question period. I think

3058
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:23,080
that -- closing of the public --

3059
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:29,080
- Est-ce que quelqu'un propose?

3060
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,080
Pardon? Merci beaucoup.

3061
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,080
>> Thank you very much for

3062
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080
coming and thank you very much

3063
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:37,080
for your comments and your

3064
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,080
questions. We will certainly

3065
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:44,080
take note of what you've said

3066
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,080
this evening. For unfortunately,

3067
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,080
a lot of it was repetitive, but

3068
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,080
that's why I think I give

3069
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,080
everybody a chance to express

3070
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,080
themselves and we will seriously

3071
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,080
take consideration what you

3072
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,040
said. I am sure that the

3073
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,040
developer -- as well, so

3074
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:05,040
hopefully there will be some

3075
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:10,040
changes and some -- from the

3076
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,040
developer in the district. So,

3077
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,040
thank you very much. Merci vous

3078
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,040
coupez.