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Bonsoir

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et bienvenue à la séance ordinaire du conseil

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municipal, lundi 21 octobre. 24.

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And welcome to the regular

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meeting of the Municipal Council of Monday,

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October 21st, 2024.

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So now to open the agenda,

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I'm going to ask our city clerk to go ahead.

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Donc l'adoption de l'ordre du jour de la séance
ordinaire

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du Conseil de la Ville de Beaconsfield du 21
octobre 2024,

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avec les modifications suivantes pour le point
20.3.

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Elle a pour titre, ajoutant en finalité,

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pour un montant de 1 168 650 $ et 70 800,
toutes taxes

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incluses pour les services de base et un montant
de 210 000,

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toutes taxes incluses, à parfaire pour les
services complémentaires.

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C'est le point 20.3 pour le point 20.4

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qui concerne éléments experts conseils.

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On ajoute 299 912,45 $

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all taxes included

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services

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16000 all taxes included.

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To be analyse for this service.

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Donc ça, c'est 20.4 20.5 pour MLC Associés.

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Nous ajoutons pour un montant de 171 674,74 $

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cents toutes taxes incluses pour les services
de base et un montant

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de 26 000 $, taxes incluses, à parfaire
pour les services complémentaires

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et enfin à 20.6 pour Boutillette Pariseau.

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for an amount of $397,860.47.

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All taxes include for basic services and an
amount of $89,000,

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all taxes included to be finalized for additional
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Je propose

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qui a peu

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d'appuis.

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Alors

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tu vas en faveur

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à l'unanimité.

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Alors maintenant, nous allons passer

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au rapport du commandant Goyette

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sur les activités

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à Beaconsfield durant le dernier mois.

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Comment la cueillette

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fonctionne

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sans compter ?

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Thank you for having me tonight.

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So this is the report for the crime for the
past month and begins film.

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donc les faits saillants pour le PDQ un depuis
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avec une seule au niveau criminel assez tranquille.

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Ce mois ci, on parle de un voie de fait sur
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Il y a un vol de véhicule.

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Au niveau des vélos, notre escouade vélo

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et ils ont parcouru avec une file de plus de
100 kilomètres à vélo ce mois ci.

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Ils y ont également participé et assisté
des étudiants de l'école

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de plusieurs écoles lors de sorties de vélo.

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Pour les sixième année et ils ont également
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la sécurité lors de course.

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Terry Fox

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pour nos agents communautaires se sont présentés

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au Beaconsfield High School concernant un phénomène
inquiétant dans les écoles.

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Dans les cours d'école

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des Fight Club, ils ont sensibilisé les étudiants

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aux nombreuses conséquences possibles et ils
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au niveau criminel et rassurer également

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la direction.

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Pour ce qui est de la sécurité routière,

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durant le dernier mois, nous avons fait six
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entre autres sur Saint-Charles et Beacon Hill
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dans les zones de 50 kilomètres heure.

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Neuf constats d'infraction ont été émis
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et six opérations ont été faites dans les
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et corridors scolaires pour un total de 29
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C'est ce qui

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conclut les faits saillants pour le dernier
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Merci de votre confiance.

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Vous pouvez en tout temps composez le cinq
un quatre deux huit zéro zéro un zéro un

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pour joindre le poste de quartier un ou par
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un à Commercial SPVM qc.ca.

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Soyez assuré de notre disponibilité pour
toutes préoccupations

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soulevées par les citoyens de Beaconsfield.

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Again !

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You may call (514) 280-0101 at any time to
reach station

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one or send the email to Q one at SBM

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that you say that's it for any concern.

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Merci beaucoup

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any questions for the, commander?

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Oh, pas de question

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commandant, merci beaucoup.

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Et puis continuez à faire votre bon travail.

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La surveillance pour la vitesse avec une spéciale,
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excellent comme travail.

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Merci beaucoup.

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go to the questions that, we received in writing.

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and, the first question was from

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Jean-Guy Blondin West Hill

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Les parcs de Windermere et Shannon sont jonchés

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de branches d'arbres qui n'ont pas été ramassées
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Y a t il un suivi hebdomadaire de la condition
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pour la sécurité des enfants ?

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Alors, monsieur le Bureau vert, les espaces
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seront traités différemment des espaces verts.

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et ne sont pas ramassées pendant l'été.

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les parcs et espaces verts quotidiennement.

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font également des tournées ponctuelles.

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De plus, lors de la tonte de gazon,

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les problématiques importantes sont signalées

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from Tom LaBelle from Filton.

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how many claims were filed against the city?

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How many have been settled via your insurance

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and what is best and worst case cost to the
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2527 of which were

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submitted outside the deadline.

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Those 432 claims and 27 were received.

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The claims are still being processed

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by the insurer, so we don't have any, report

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on the claims themselves.

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from, Derek Pound's Sweet Bar.

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question one cultural center

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versus recreation center projects

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authorization.

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and use questioning on 20.3, 20.4

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and 20.5 and 20.6.

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Authorization to sign contracts for professional
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with four members of the winning team of the
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disciplinary Architectural Competition for
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of a multi-purpose cultural center.

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I am concerned that more important projects
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Center Restoration Project are being neglected

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as the city received the $20 million grant
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from Quebec towards the recreation center restoration.

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And if not, are they?

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Are there any alternative plans?

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Panels has not received their requested grant.

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The city is still considering alternative plans.

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The recreation center restoration project is
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in February 2020, for a $2.2 million contract
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for professional services

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for the preparation of plans and specific actions

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relating to the renovation work and upgrading
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and in April 2020 for a $5.4 million contract
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for the renovation of the Recreation Center
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proposed in the upcoming investment budget.

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that the rec center is 50 years old.

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had a rather long preamble,

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but the question is if the City of Beacon Shield

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requesting the photo radars be installed

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along A20 in Beaconsfield,

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the city made a request

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to the MQ in 2020 2012

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and again in 2019 for 48 hours on a 20,

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and the empty queue indicated both times that
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did not meet the applicable criteria

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for the installation of photo radars,

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and obviously, after two attempts,

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we do not plan on making another request.

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And the next question is from, Madam Corrado.

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Nicole. Go ahead.

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You said, Andrew, the first question is please
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not be done unless the building is unsafe.

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She's talking about 130 Jasper

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building be in the same style and size as the
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And sure, trees are protected and sure trees
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Madam Corrado, the,

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demolition request is evaluated

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by the demolition committee.

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And, any the new building that will be,

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so that it was submitted, has a request for
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will be evaluated by the planning

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advisory committee.

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what I'm gonna do is,

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again, it's a long preamble.

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but I we have summarized the question.

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humane education services,

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the spay and neuter

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animal activities, and other measures regarding
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As for your suggestions on animals and regarding
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madam, Colorado the city administration

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has already answered this question.

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I had a previous,

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I previous time and has indicated that the
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to expand its animal services at this time.

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to the questions that were submitted in writing.

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And now we can go to the questions from the
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Bonsoir Pauline.

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Oui, j'ai une question à propos de 60.3

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la liste d'inventaire des immeubles construits
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Est ce que cette liste va être rendue publique
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Je crois que oui.

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Mais je vais laisser monsieur Boileau vous
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Je crois que oui, ça va être l'information
qui va être publiée.

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Oui, ça pourrait être rendu public.

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On va le mettre sur le site web, mais c'est
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accessible au public une fois que c'est approuvé
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Puis il y a une

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centaine d'adresses sur des propriétés de
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qui sont sur le territoire de la ville et qui
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C'est vraiment, c'est vraiment un fait.

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Ça fait suite à la loi 80, adaptée pour
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des propriétés de 1940 et avant

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donc là, ça va être rendu public.

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Il y a des travaux qui sont dans l'agglomération
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à ce niveau là.

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Est ce que il faut être approuvé par Montréal
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l'Agglo,

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c'est à dire un comité de démolition ?

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On ne veut pas que ce soit approuvé.

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C'est que les propriétés vont être évaluées.

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Puis quand il va faire

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des demandes de démolition, on va devoir soumettre
ça à l'Agglo.

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C'est l'Agglo qui va accepter ou pas que les
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C'est pour ça

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que cette démarche là, qui se passait directement
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En plus, ça s'est passé au niveau des MRC
agglomération dans le futur.

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Puis, est ce qu'il peut y avoir une

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une évaluation ou une restriction ?

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Qu'est ce que vous allez faire avec cette liste
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Après les panneaux, nous, on fait rien, Là,
on se met ça à l'agglo.

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Puis eux vont faire les évaluations.

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Il y a toutes sortes de documents et d'informations,

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puis qui vont être analysés à ce moment
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par par ces

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instances là. Seulement, s'il

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y a une demande de démolition ou ils peuvent
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Bien.

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Je pense qu'il va analyser toute la liste pour
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qui devraient être prises en considération
au moment d'une demande de démolition.

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S'il y avait des démolitions, évidemment.

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Donc c'est certain que c'est pas les quelques
centaines d'adresses

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sur notre liste qui vont demeurer

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à caractère patrimonial, si vous permettez.

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Mais ça va être évalué par par l'agglomération
en fonction

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des nouvelles règles qui ont été adoptées
par le gouvernement du Québec.

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Je pense que c'était en 2023 juin 2023.

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Donc comme on dirait là, ça fait un peu plus
d'un an

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que ce sujet là, il circule, un an et demi
probablement.

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Puis est ce qu'on s'en servir ?

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C'était des maisons ou non.

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Il y aura pas de citations, pas de citations.

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En tout cas, pas à ma connaissance. Je ne
pense pas que sont rendus là.

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Est ce que ça d'autres étapes dans le futur
?

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Mais à ce moment ci, ma compréhension, c'est
qu'il n'y a pas d'hésitation.

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C'est l'objectif n'est pas de faire des citations
là, c'est de protéger.

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En cas de demande de démolition, c'est quand
même une certaine différence.

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Puis est ce que la possibilité de racheter
des immeubles qui ont été construits

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après 1950 mais qui ont une certaine valeur
patrimoniale d'unicité ?

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Mais là, à ce moment là,

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ça va se faire localement par le comité de
démolition de la ville.

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Si la Ville décide, avec une bâtisse construite
en 1962

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de devait avoir à caractère patrimonial toutes
sortes de raisons.

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Mais ça, la ville, ce ne sera pas au niveau
régional ou provincial.

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OK, j'avais une question à propos de notre
point 20.1

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on parle d'achats d'antenne pour les compteurs
d'eau résidentiels.

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Est ce que c'est essentiel

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d'avoir un changement de compteurs d'eau à
ce point ci de l'année ?

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Euh. En fait, les compteurs

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d'eau que nous avons ont largement dépassé
leur durée de vie utile.

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Donc oui, c'est essentiel pour question d'équité
par rapport

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à l'ensemble des citoyens d'avoir des équipements

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qui compte l'eau de façon équitable pour
chacun.

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Il y a des compteurs d'eau

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qui sont remplacés à chaque année pour toutes
sortes de raisons

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de grosseur, de tuyauterie ou de fonctionnement
douteux.

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Donc ces gens là, ils vont payer le plein
montant de la consommation d'eau,

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ce qui n'est pas le cas pour tout le monde.

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Des compteurs d'eau qui ont plus de 20 ans,
c'est ce qu'on devrait changer.

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Y en a plusieurs qui ont plus de 25 ans présentement.

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Même qu'il y en a qui ont 30 ans.

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Donc, il faut aller dans cette direction

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de gestion de l'eau potable de notre territoire.

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Mais si j'ai bien compris de près cette demande
là.

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Puis il y a eu une demande qui, il y a quelques
mois,

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ce que vous allez changer tous les compteurs
de la ville tout d'un coup,

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ça sera une période de 2 à 3 ans,

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dépendamment des fournisseurs qu'on va trouver

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pour faire le remplacement de la capacité
qu'on va avoir de procéder

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au remplacement de la collaboration avec les
citoyens qui vont

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qu'il serait plus facile de faire les remplacements,
donc plus difficiles.

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Il y a des endroits qui

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sont moins accessibles, donc vous avez des
enjeux à cet endroit là

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où les compteurs d'eau dans leur maison, On
leur fait que

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si on a des petits engins à quelques places,
c'est minime. Là.

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Mais la grande majorité vont être remplacés

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dans les 2 à 3 prochaines années.

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Et alors ?

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Est ce que procède par quartier ou

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bien c'est pas déterminé ?

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Encore là du nouveau personnel qui rentre
en place ?

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Qui vont étudier ça ?

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C'est pas simple pour ça

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et on a des changements qui se font présentement,

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donc on va leur permettre de prendre connaissance
du dossier puis d'évaluer ça.

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Je dirais qu'on sait qu'il y en a environ 500
qui sont très difficiles à lire.

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Là, les lectures extérieures ne fonctionnent
plus.

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Donc on devrait peut être mettre un peu heurté.

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On sait qu'il y en a un peu plus de 1000 qui
ont été remplacés pour différentes

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raisons et besoins qu'on pourrait simplement
aller installer des antennes.

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Donc on a ces deux volets

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qui vont être mis en priorité, mais c'est
pas déterminé et encore

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pas certain que c'est nécessaire par secteur.

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C'est nécessaire par notre capacité d'agir
avec nos listes de travail.

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Ça pourrait se faire en fonction de différentes
priorités.

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Est ce que je peux pour une autre question,
ça,

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à propos des nouvelles constructions qui vont
être faites

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dans le futur, Il y

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en a un pour remplacer des démolitions.

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Est ce que vous allez prendre en compte

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le fait que certains endroits

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ont été construits sur

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des marécages et tout ça

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puis essayer d'avoir des maisons qui n'ont
pas de sous sol ?

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Si c'est un endroit où il y a eu beaucoup
de dommages d'eau

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dans les années précédentes,

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- À ce que je sache, il y a une

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carte qui a été publié récemment

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sur les zones inondables. Et à

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Beaconsfield, aucun bâtiment est

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dans une zone inondable.

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- Bien il y a eu beaucoup

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d'inondations.

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(rires)

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- Oui mais ça, c'est pas la même

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chose. C'est pas la même chose.

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Mais non, justement, on est en

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train de regarder de quelle

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façon est-ce qu'on peut rendre

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nos facilités un peu plus

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résilientes au genre

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d'inondations qu'on a eu. Mais

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vous savez, c'est tout partout,

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ces inondations-là. Je lisais un

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article, il y a quelques jours,

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Paris a été inondé de la même

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façon.

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- Mais, ce qu'on a vu, en tout

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cas, moi ce que j'ai

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connaissance, c'est que c'est

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des endroits où le terrain est

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plus bas, de façon naturelle.

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Donc il me semble que dans les

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endroits où les rues sont plus

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basses, on devrait plus

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permettre d'avoir des sous-sol.

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- C'est une question de pouvoir

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faire le drainage nécessaire

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dans ces endroits-là. Et c'est

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ça qu'on est en train de

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regarder.

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So so I'm Tom LaBelle on Bakersfield.

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So I have two questions for you.

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First one is, could you give us an update on
the claim

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against the city of Montreal?

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You're the claim

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by the City of beacons for the city of Montreal.

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Well, no, we have no news.

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Everything has been done so far

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in terms of interrogations and, you know, preparing
for to go to court.

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But now we're waiting for a court date.

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So, until we have a court date, nothing is
going to happen.

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Okay, the second question I have for you is

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use talks about some 460 claims that people
have submitted

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for two and a half months into the six month
limit

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before somebody has to raise the bar to the
next level.

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Is there any idea thoughts on how quickly

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the city is going to come to feedback to the
people that made the claims?

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It's in the hands of the insurer.

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And, I don't know.

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I personally, I made a claim myself, my and
to my insurance company.

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I'm still waiting for them to, come and give
and he's.

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And if they give me a settlement as to why
what I claimed. No.

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But for the people that made claims against
the city, it's got to go to.

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Well, that the same thing here.

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It's in the hands of the insurer and they will
determine

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whether it's a claim, a valid claim or whether
it's not a valid claim.

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So the city's all just waiting for them right
now.

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So the city does not handle it.

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Say the insurance company. Okay. Thank you.

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Well,

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Adoption of the minutes of the City of Beaconsfield.

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Regular council meeting of September 23rd,
2024.

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I propose second in favor.

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awarding of contract tip 2024 elephant for
there's no

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clearing of the village and other areas, the
sort of for winter 2024 2025

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with when you all options of one year each
to the single and confirming bidder

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7574 479 Canada Inc in the amount

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of 23,000 $569,069.88.

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All taxes included.

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Proposed I second in favor.

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A petition

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to sign a contract for professional services
with LMA Epert Conseil

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Council member of the winning team of the multidisciplinary

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architectural competition for the construction
of a multipurpose

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cultural center for the discipline of structural
Engineering,

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Venkat is based on compliment case for an amount
of $299,912.45.

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All tax is included for basic services and
an amount of $68,000,

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all taxes included, to be finalized for additional
services

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proposed.

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Second in favor

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signer un contrat pour des

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services professionnels avec MLC

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Associés inc., membre de

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l'équipe lauréate du concours

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d'architecture

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pluridisciplinaire pour la

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construction d'un Centre

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culturel multifonctionnel, pour

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la discipline de génie civil

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(24-SP-195)

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. Pour un montant de 160 11614

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dollars et 74 cents. Taxes

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incluses, pour les services de

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base et un montant de 26000

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dollars, taxes incluses, à part

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faire pour les services

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complémentaires.

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- Proposé.

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- Secondé.

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- En faveur.

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- À l'unanimité.

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20.6 this authorization authorization

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Authorization to sign a

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contract for professional

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services with Bouthillette

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Parizeau et Associés, member of

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the winning team of the

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multidisciplinary architectural

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competition for the construction

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of a Multipurpose Cultural

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Centre, for the disciplines of

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electrical engineering and

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mechanical engineering contract

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(24-SP-195)

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. For an amount of $397,860.47.

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All taxes included for basic

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services. And an amount of

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$89,000, all taxes included, to

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be finalized for additional

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services.

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>> Proposed.

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>> And seconded.

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>> In favour.

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- À l'unanimité. Approbation de

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la liste des comptes à payer au

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21 octobre 2024, et de la liste

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des paiements préautorisés pour

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la période du 12 septembre 2024

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au 22 septembre 2024 et du 24

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septembre 2024 au 9 octobre

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2024, pour un déboursé total de

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4 205 986,31 $.

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- Voici les montants importants,

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le montant de 4 millions. 599287

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et 21, construction Arcade pour

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le décompte progressif numéro 3,

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concernant la rénovation de la

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patinoire. 361004... 361491 et

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18

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(---)

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pour un décompte progressif

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numéro 1 conservant la

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réhabilitation structural de

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conduite d'aqueduc. 220009 85,

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excavation Roxboro, pour des

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comptes progressifs numéro 2,

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concernant la réfection des

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chaussures... des chaussées

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souples. Et pas des chaussures.

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143395 et 60 des 700, Lemay et

485
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:10,020
compagnie Hank, pour la

486
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:11,020
prestation concernant le

487
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:15,020
concours d'architecture

488
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,020
pluridisciplinaire pour centre

489
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:21,020
culturel. 126279 29, Services

490
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:23,020
des espaces verts pour le

491
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:26,020
traitement contre la grille. Et

492
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,020
finalement, les salaires à

493
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:34,020
463572 et 17 cents. Je propose.

494
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,020
En faveur.

495
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:38,020
- À l'unanimité.

496
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,020
>> Approval of a $400

497
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:42,020
contribution to Clovis

498
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:43,020
Sanscartier for participating in

499
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,020
two bicycle competitions, La

500
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:48,020
Ronde des Vallées and Les

501
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:49,020
Boucles de l'Oise U19 in France

502
00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:50,020
from August 10 to 11, 2024, and

503
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:55,020
from August 17 to 18, 2024.

504
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,020
- Je propose.

505
00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:59,020
- Je seconde.

506
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:01,080
- En faveur.

507
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,080
- À l'unanimité. Demande

508
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,080
d'autorisation de corriger les

509
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080
nuisances aux 132-146, Larch et

510
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,080
de facturer le coût des travaux

511
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,080
au propriétaire, en vertu du

512
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Règlement BEAC-033.

513
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,080
- À l'unanimité.

514
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,080
>> Authorization to correct

515
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080
nuisances at 548, 550 and 552

516
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,080
Beaconsfield and to bill the

517
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
costs to the owner, in virtue of

518
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,080
By-law BEAC-033.

519
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,080
>> Proposed.

520
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,080
>> I second.

521
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080
>> In favour.

522
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,080
- À l'unanimité. Demande de

523
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,080
révision de la décision du

524
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Comité de démolition du 21 août

525
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,080
2024 concernant le bâtiment

526
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,080
situé au 130, Jasper. La

527
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,080
recommandation serait de

528
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,080
maintenir la décision du comité

529
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080
de démolition.

530
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,080
>> Proposed.

531
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080
>> Seconded.

532
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,080
- En faveur d'accepter la

533
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
décision du comité de

534
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,040
dévolution. Démolitions, pardon.

535
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Contre?

536
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040
>> Motion carried.

537
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
- La démolition est acceptée?

538
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
- La démolition est maintenue,

539
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
oui.

540
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
>> Request for minor exemption

541
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,040
of -- located at 135 Evergreen

542
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,040
our recommendation is to

543
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
approve.

544
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,040
>> Proposed.

545
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,040
>> Second.

546
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,040
>> In favour.

547
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,040
- À l'unanimité. Demande

548
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,040
d'approbation du Plan

549
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,040
d'implantation et d'intégration

550
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,040
architecturale

551
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040
(PIIA)

552
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,040
relatif à la demande d'un permis

553
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,040
de construction pour un nouveau

554
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040
bâtiment principal situé au 114,

555
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Brentwood. La recommandation

556
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,040
était refusé.

557
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,040
- Opposé.

558
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,040
- Secondé.

559
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040
- En faveur.

560
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,040
- Pas à l'unanimité.

561
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,040
>> Request for the approval of

562
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,000
the Site Planning and

563
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Architectural Integration

564
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000
Programme

565
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
(SPAIP)

566
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000
relating to a building permit

567
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
application for a new main

568
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
building located at 372

569
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Chantilly. The recommendation is

570
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000
to approve according to the

571
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
option brick.

572
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
>> Proposed.

573
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
>> I second.

574
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000
>> In favour.

575
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
- À l'unanimité. Demande

576
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
d'approbation du Plan

577
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
d'implantation et d'intégration

578
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
architecturale

579
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
(PIIA)

580
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
relatif à la demande d'un permis

581
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
de construction pour

582
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
l'agrandissement du bâtiment

583
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
principal situé au 69, Circle.

584
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
La recommandation est

585
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
d'approuver selon les plans

586
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
déposés reliés octobre 2024.

587
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
- Opposé.

588
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000
- J'appuie.

589
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
- En faveur.

590
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,000
- À l'unanimité.

591
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000
>> Request for the approval of

592
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
the Site Planning and

593
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Architectural Integration

594
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Programme

595
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000
(SPAIP)

596
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
relating to a building permit

597
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000
application for the extension of

598
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000
the main building located at 116

599
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Angell. The recommendation is to

600
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
refuse.

601
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
>> Proposed.

602
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
>> Seconded.

603
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
>> In favour.

604
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
- À l'unanimité. Demande

605
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,000
d'approbation du Plan

606
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,060
d'implantation et d'intégration

607
00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:01,060
architecturale

608
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,060
(PIIA)

609
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,060
relatif à la demande d'un permis

610
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:04,060
de construction pour

611
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:05,060
l'agrandissement du bâtiment

612
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:06,060
principal situé au 233,

613
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:07,060
Cadillac. Le recommandation est

614
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:08,060
de refuser.

615
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:09,060
- Proposé.

616
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:11,060
- J'appuie.

617
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:13,060
- En faveur.

618
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:16,060
- À l'unanimité.

619
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:17,060
>> Request for the approval of

620
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:18,060
the Site Planning and

621
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:19,060
Architectural Integration

622
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,060
Programme

623
00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:21,060
(SPAIP)

624
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,060
relating to a building permit

625
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,060
application for the modification

626
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:24,060
of the facade of a main building

627
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,060
located at 113 Brentwoood. The

628
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:28,060
recommendation is to approve.

629
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:29,060
>> Proposed.

630
00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,060
>> Seconded.

631
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:33,060
- En faveur.

632
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:34,060
>>

633
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:36,060
- À l'unanimité. Demande

634
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,060
d'approbation du Plan

635
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:38,060
d'implantation et d'intégration

636
00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:39,060
architecturale

637
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:40,060
(PIIA)

638
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:41,060
relatif à la demande d'un permis

639
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:42,060
de construction pour la

640
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:43,060
modification de la façade du

641
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:44,060
bâtiment principal situé au 409,

642
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:45,060
Bishop. La recommandation est

643
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,060
d'approuver selon le plan déposé

644
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:50,060
le 10 octobre 2024.

645
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,060
- Proposé.

646
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:56,060
>> Second.

647
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:57,060
- En faveur.

648
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:58,060
- À l'unanimité.

649
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:01,020
>> Acceptance of an amount of

650
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:05,020
$17,074.20 for park fees to be

651
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:09,020
paid by the owner of lot 1 969

652
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,020
758

653
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,020
(372 Chantilly)

654
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:13,020
to the City, according to By-law

655
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,020
BEAC-128 concerning

656
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,020
contributions for the

657
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:16,020
establishment, maintenance and

658
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:17,020
improvement of parks,

659
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,020
playgrounds and natural areas on

660
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:21,020
the City of Beaconsfield's

661
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:24,020
territory.

662
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,020
>> Proposed.

663
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:27,020
>> Seconded.

664
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:29,020
>> In favour.

665
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:34,020
- À l'unanimité.

666
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:38,020
Demande de décision concernant

667
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:39,020
la contribution pour fins

668
00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:40,020
d'établissement, de maintien et

669
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:41,020
d'amélioration de parcs,

670
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,020
terrains de jeux et espaces

671
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:44,020
naturels pour le 516, Lakeshore.

672
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:46,020
>> I'm proposing that we accept

673
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:47,020
the money in an approximate

674
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:51,020
amount of $170,000.

675
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,020
>> I second.

676
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:58,020
>> In favour. Against? I will

677
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
need to hold on this one, so I

678
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,080
will vote to accept the money.

679
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
>> Okay, thank you.

680
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080
>> Nomination in view of

681
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,080
permanency as Directeur, Travaux

682
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080
publics to position 5000.

683
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,080
- Je propose.

684
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,080
- J'appuie.

685
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080
- En faveur.

686
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080
- À l'unanimité. Procès-verbal

687
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,080
de la réunion du Comité

688
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,080
consultatif d'urbanisme du 2

689
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
octobre 2024.

690
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,080
>> No new comments from when we

691
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,080
cover the projects, so there's

692
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,080
nothing additional.

693
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,080
>> Okay, so you propose?

694
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,080
>> I propose those minutes.

695
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
>> I second them.

696
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
- En faveur.

697
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,080
- À l'unanimité.

698
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,080
>> Minutes of the launch meeting

699
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,040
of the Age-Friendly Municipality

700
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040
(AFM)

701
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Steering Committee of September

702
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,040
23, 2024.

703
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
>> Madam Chairman, I think you

704
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,040
have a few words to say.

705
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
>> I do. Thank you, Mister

706
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Mayor. On September 23rd, we had

707
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,040
our first Age-Friendly

708
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Municipality Steering Committee

709
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
meeting. The committee is

710
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040
comprised of myself as chair and

711
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Councillor Moss as co-chair,

712
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040
along with a number of citizens

713
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
of Beaconsfield and members of

714
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040
different organizations that

715
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,040
help our seniors. We also have

716
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
three members from the city

717
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,040
administration. I would like to

718
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040
thank all the members of the

719
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
committee for your time and

720
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040
helping create the new we matter

721
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040
action plan for the City. The

722
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
foreman of the new action plan

723
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040
will include extensive

724
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,040
discussions with various focus

725
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040
groups, and will include public

726
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
survey that would lead us to

727
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
adopting a municipal policy and

728
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
action plan that will determine

729
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,040
realistic and feasible actions

730
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040
by the City. This plan will be

731
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040
presented to Council for

732
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
approval in the summer of 2025.

733
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
After council approves it, there

734
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
will be a monitoring committee

735
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
that will be formed and will

736
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
hold biannual meetings to

737
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
monitor the action plan. We are

738
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000
on our way and we are very

739
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
excited, Mister Mayor, thank

740
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
you.

741
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
>> So, you propose?

742
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
>> I propose. Proposed.

743
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
>> I second.

744
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,000
>> All in favour.

745
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
- Procès-verbal de la réunion du

746
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Comité consultatif de

747
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
l'environnement du 10 septembre

748
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
2024.

749
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
>> Anything, Mister Chairman, to

750
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
say?

751
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
- Oui, merci, Monsieur le Maire.

752
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
>> So certainly, the

753
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
environmental committee is

754
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
always considering the

755
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000
environment, just monitoring,

756
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
you know, what's happening.

757
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Mostly I guess around the world.

758
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000
But we are seeing how the

759
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000
environment is certainly been

760
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
greatly affected with global

761
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
crises, global warming, the

762
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,060
climate crisis, and how -- to

763
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:04,060
affect us here in Beaconsfield

764
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,060
as of April night with all the

765
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:08,060
flooding we've had so very

766
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,060
unfortunate and I did want to

767
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:11,060
mention that the pamphlet that

768
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:13,060
the special contact magazine

769
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:16,060
that the City had printed for

770
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:17,060
distribution for all of our

771
00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:20,060
residents, I think, is very

772
00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:22,060
interesting magazine. It talks a

773
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:24,060
little bit about the flooding

774
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:27,060
situation but also provides some

775
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,060
ideas and suggestions on how we

776
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:31,060
can maybe try to minimize and

777
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,060
protect our homes. Alors ça,

778
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:36,060
c'est une revue qui a eu un très

779
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,060
bon impact avec nos lecteurs. Si

780
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:41,060
vous avez des questions pour

781
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:44,060
essayer de minimiser les

782
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:45,060
(inaudible)

783
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:48,060
. On sait certainement que on va

784
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,060
avoir d'autres de plus.

785
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:52,060
The environment, you know, the

786
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:53,060
climate changes are here to

787
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:55,060
stay, in my belief. And I think

788
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:57,060
we need to protect ourselves and

789
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:59,060
the only way we can do that is

790
00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:03,020
to actually look at little ways,

791
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,020
I guess you could call them in

792
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:06,020
baseball, like singles hits of,

793
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:07,020
you know, looking at areas where

794
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,020
we can just do our little part

795
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,020
to reduce carbon, reduce methane

796
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,020
gas, which is contributing to,

797
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,020
you know, global warming. And at

798
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:21,020
the same time, just to, you

799
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,020
know, consider other little

800
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,020
things that certainly the

801
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,020
committee is always concerned

802
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:27,020
about and mentioning to the

803
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:29,020
public. And to Council, things

804
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:31,020
like water consumption is really

805
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,020
important. We take water for

806
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:36,020
granted. I think in Canada.

807
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:38,020
Sunday, it'll be a tremendous

808
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,020
resource, you know? For sale,

809
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:41,020
potentially, to the world, much

810
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:44,020
like oil is. At the same time,

811
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:45,020
we always talk about the

812
00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:47,020
importance of trees, the canopy

813
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:50,020
to Beaconsfield and how it

814
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:52,020
provides shade in the

815
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:53,020
summertime. Now I'm thinking

816
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:55,020
having read an article several

817
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:59,020
months ago that suggests that

818
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,080
big, mature trees actually

819
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
absorb 40 to 50,000 gallons of

820
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
water per year, per tree. To

821
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080
work that out, it's almost the

822
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,080
equivalent of what let's say

823
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,080
about 50% of the average

824
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,080
consumer's water consumption is.

825
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,080
So, it's significant what a tree

826
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080
can do in terms of just

827
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,080
absorbing the water from our

828
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,080
lawns and our properties, and of

829
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,080
course, we are hearing some

830
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
flooding is being caused because

831
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,080
of underground water streams,

832
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080
but at the same time, I think

833
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,080
trees can probably be of help in

834
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,080
certain areas in terms of

835
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,080
absorbing some of that

836
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,080
groundwater. The other thing

837
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,080
we've talked about and focus on

838
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
at the last meeting is to create

839
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,080
or to have, start looking at

840
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080
plants that we could suggest to

841
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,080
either the city or to the public

842
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,080
to be able to plant flowers and

843
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,080
in our gardens for bees and

844
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,080
butterflies. They're important

845
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
pollinators, they're on an

846
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,040
endangered species. So, you

847
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040
know, I'm happy to hear that the

848
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,040
City is actually going to plant

849
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040
some, you know, perennial

850
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
milkweed plants here in the

851
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040
city. I think there's one park

852
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,040
that the City has elected and

853
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,040
they've already -- at least this

854
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
past fall, so there's 30

855
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040
milkweed. It's going to be the

856
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
little green space that's on St.

857
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Charles and Creswell, so I think

858
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040
that's going to be an important

859
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,040
start to try to help pollinators

860
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,040
that are extremely important to

861
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,040
our society. And the other thing

862
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
is that I just like to mention

863
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,040
as well that in this article,

864
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,040
the magazine, there's a piece on

865
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,040
wood burning. The legislation

866
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,040
that was put into force last

867
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,040
year, which is basically that,

868
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,000
you know, our residents should

869
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000
consider when they're burning

870
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
wood and especially to

871
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
understand that the new

872
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
legislation, for those

873
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
homeowners who do not use any P

874
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,000
A 2.5, to burn wood, that there

875
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,000
is a limit of to burn wood,

876
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
which is six hours for every 48

877
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
hour period. And of course, we

878
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
all know that wood smoke is

879
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
certainly unhealthy to breathe.

880
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
And so, certainly I would hope

881
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,000
that would burners would take

882
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
that into consideration, make

883
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
sure that they have an EPA 2.5

884
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
and to be considerate of others

885
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000
when they are burning. So, I

886
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
propose the minutes, Mister

887
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Mayor. Thank you.

888
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000
>> Who is seconding?

889
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
>> I will, I'm sorry. Second.

890
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
>> In favour.

891
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,000
- Unanimité.

892
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
>> Deposit of the minutes of the

893
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,060
Demolition Committee meeting of

894
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:01,060
August 21, 2024.

895
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:03,060
- Des commentaires, Monsieur le

896
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:04,060
Président?

897
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:05,060
- Merci, Monsieur le Maire.

898
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:07,060
>> Essentially on that date, we

899
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:10,060
reviewed to requests for

900
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,060
demolition's. Both on evergreen

901
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:14,060
and Jasper were awarded and as

902
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:17,060
we've seen today earlier, one of

903
00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:18,060
those two demolitions was

904
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,060
subject to a review process and

905
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:22,060
a decision was maintained. So

906
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:27,060
there we go.

907
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:31,060
- Proposé. C'est un dépôt?

908
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:33,060
- Nomination d'un membre du

909
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:35,060
comité consultatif de culture et

910
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:38,060
loisirs.

911
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:42,060
- Oui, je propose.

912
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:43,060
- Qu'est-ce que vous avez des

913
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:44,060
commentaires sur la personne?

914
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:46,060
- La personne? Oui. On a le

915
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:48,060
plaisir d'avoir monsieur Simon

916
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,060
Bélanger ici avec nous au

917
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:54,060
conseil. Monsieur Bélanger est

918
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:57,060
nouvellement à Beaconsfield avec

919
00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:59,060
ces deux jeunes enfants. Il

920
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:01,020
s'est proposé comme candidat et

921
00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:05,020
je suis vraiment ravi que tu te

922
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,020
joignent à notre équipe. Je

923
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:09,020
propose.

924
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:10,020
- Propose? Qui seconde?

925
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,020
- Ça me semble être une bonne

926
00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:13,020
personne alors j'appuie.

927
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:14,020
(rires)

928
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:15,020
(rires)

929
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:20,020
- Merci. En faveur. Unanime.

930
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:21,020
(rires)

931
00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:22,020
(rires)

932
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:23,020
-

933
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:24,020
Renouvellement de membres du

934
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:25,020
Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

935
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,020
>> Nomination of a member of to

936
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:27,020
the Culture and Leisure Advisory

937
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:28,020
Committee

938
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:29,020
(2)

939
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:30,020
.

940
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:31,020
>> Yeah, I think this is the

941
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:32,020
second person that we have.

942
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,020
>> It is, yeah, we are busy. So,

943
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:35,020
it's Christine Ryan and just

944
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,020
she's not here tonight but I

945
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,020
just wanted to take a second to

946
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,020
say that the culture and leisure

947
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:41,020
advisory committee is one of six

948
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:45,020
committees and like my fellow

949
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:47,020
councillor, Councillor

950
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:48,020
Alexopoulos said, we can't do it

951
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:51,020
without a residence. So, this

952
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:52,020
committee advises Beaconsfield

953
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:55,020
council on goals, strategies,

954
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,020
and new initiatives related to

955
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,020
culture and leisure services,

956
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:02,080
and community events. So, all of

957
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,080
what we do and up in the

958
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,080
contact. So, I propose.

959
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080
>> I second.

960
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,080
>> In favour.

961
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,080
>> Mister Chairman, would you

962
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
have any comments?

963
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,080
>> So, I'm proposing a renewal

964
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080
of a member pretty active on the

965
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,080
committee tonight, lots of --

966
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,080
so, I'm delighted to renew the

967
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,080
mandate for Mr. Graham mag.

968
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,080
Graham has been on the committee

969
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080
for a number of years and we are

970
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,080
delighted to have him back. He's

971
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080
definitely been a dedicated

972
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,080
participant and very, very

973
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,080
active in the meetings. Very

974
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
communicative and definitely

975
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080
brings forth a lot of his ideas

976
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
on the P.A.C. Committee. And

977
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080
again, as a little bit of the

978
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
reminder, the pack committee is

979
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080
actually the committee that

980
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,080
really reviews all the building

981
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080
projects, typically mostly homes

982
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,080
and so on, that are submitted to

983
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040
the City. So, he's one of six

984
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,040
residents -- Beaconsfield a help

985
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,040
to decide and make

986
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
recommendations to Council about

987
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,040
these new properties. So, we're

988
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,040
delighted to have Graham back on

989
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
the committee and look forward

990
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
to seeing him again at the next

991
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,040
meeting.

992
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,040
>> Do you propose?

993
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040
>> So, we propose Graham mag to

994
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,040
renew his membership on --

995
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,040
>> I happily second.

996
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
>> Very good. In favour.

997
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040
- À l'unanimité.

998
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040
>> Adoption of the City of

999
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,040
Beaconsfield's calendar of

1000
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,040
regular Council meetings for

1001
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,040
2025.

1002
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,040
- Je propose.

1003
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
>> Second.

1004
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,040
- En faveur.

1005
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,040
- À l'unanimité.

1006
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Résolution désignant le 19

1007
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,040
novembre la Journée de

1008
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,040
sensibilisation au cancer de la

1009
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,040
prostate.

1010
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,040
>> Proposed.

1011
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,040
>> And seconded.

1012
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,040
>> In favour.

1013
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,000
- À l'unanimité.

1014
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,000
>> Approval of the inventory

1015
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000
list of buildings built before

1016
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
1940 on the territory of the

1017
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
City of Beaconsfield and

1018
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
recommendation of adoption to

1019
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
the Montreal Agglomeration

1020
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Council.

1021
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
>> Proposed.

1022
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
>> Seconded.

1023
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
>> In favour.

1024
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
- À l'unanimité. Autorisation

1025
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
pour la fermeture de rues pour

1026
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
le Train des Fêtes Canadien

1027
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Pacifique Kansas City le 22

1028
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000
novembre 2024 de 19 h à 21 h 30.

1029
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000
- Proposé.

1030
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,000
- J'appuie.

1031
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,000
- En faveur.

1032
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
(rires)

1033
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,000
>> I think I remember for the

1034
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000
first year I was mayor, we had

1035
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
the train here in Beaconsfield

1036
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
and so, it's been a long time

1037
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
since we've had the train. It's

1038
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,000
an event that a lot of kids come

1039
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
with their parents and so look

1040
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,060
at the train. It's really all

1041
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:04,060
decorated, the train. Normally

1042
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:07,060
there is a show that comes along

1043
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:10,060
with the train that lasts, I

1044
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:13,060
don't know, 15, 20 minutes. So,

1045
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:15,060
it's a very nice event and I

1046
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:18,060
would recommend to anyone that

1047
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:22,060
is listening to attend the train

1048
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:28,060
event on November 22nd.

1049
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:33,060
- À l'unanimité.

1050
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:34,060
- Tout le monde était d'accord.

1051
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:35,060
>> Resolution in support of the

1052
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:36,060
campaign: UNiTE to End Violence

1053
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:37,060
against Women and Girls.

1054
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:39,060
(rires)

1055
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:41,060
>> I strongly propose.

1056
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:44,060
>> I second, rather, sorry.

1057
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:49,060
>> Invite. - Demande à la Ville

1058
00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:51,060
de Montréal pour le maintien de

1059
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:52,060
la fluoration de l'eau potable.

1060
00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:56,060
- Oui, je vais lire la

1061
00:46:56,060 --> 00:46:57,060
résolution sur laquelle nous

1062
00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,060
allons voter ce soir. C'est

1063
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:03,020
suite à une demande un peu

1064
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:07,020
surprenante qu'on a eu pour les

1065
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:11,020
villes qui ont la fluoration

1066
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:16,020
présentement. Kirk longue, des

1067
00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:19,020
deux filles, c'est Beaconsfield,

1068
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:20,020
Pointe-Claire et Dorval et... la

1069
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:21,020
résolution que nous allons

1070
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:22,020
proposer ce soir, et qui sera

1071
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:23,020
votée par le Conseil demande à

1072
00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:24,020
la Ville de Montréal pour le

1073
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:25,020
maintien de la fluoration de

1074
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:26,020
l'eau potable. And part of

1075
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:27,020
Dollard-des-Ormeaux as well. And

1076
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:30,020
surprisingly, the City of

1077
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:34,020
Montréal came to, we made a

1078
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:38,020
presentation to the --

1079
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:40,020
municipality saying that for all

1080
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:41,020
kinds of reasons that they

1081
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:44,020
wanted to abandon the

1082
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:47,020
fluoridation of water in the

1083
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:50,020
cities where we have it at the

1084
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:54,020
same time. And it's, as you can

1085
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:58,020
see in the resolution, it's one

1086
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:00,080
thing that we have very little

1087
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,080
power on because at the

1088
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,080
agglomeration, Montréal has 87%

1089
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
of the votes and we have 13%.

1090
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
So, they can do whatever they

1091
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
want. So,

1092
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
>> Whereas the drinking water

1093
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,080
consumed of the population of

1094
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080
Beaconsfield is produced at the

1095
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Pointe-Claire filtration plant,

1096
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,080
whereas scientific studies on

1097
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,080
the public health benefits of

1098
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,080
fluoridation are in drinking

1099
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,080
water are widely recognized,

1100
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,080
whereas the City of Montréal's

1101
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,080
decision makers and elected

1102
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,080
officials have no territorial

1103
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,080
representation within the city

1104
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,080
of Beaconsfield and the towns

1105
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,080
served by the Pointe-Claire and

1106
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Dorval plants, whereas the City

1107
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,080
of Montréal plans, without any

1108
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,080
prior public consultation, to

1109
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,080
and water fluoridation by the

1110
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,080
end of 2024, this decision was

1111
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,080
taken unilaterally without

1112
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,080
consulting the effected

1113
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,080
reconstituted cities. Attendu

1114
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,080
que l'eau potable produite par

1115
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,080
les usines de filtration de

1116
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,080
Pointe-Claire et Dorval est

1117
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,080
fluorée depuis de nombreuses

1118
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,080
décennies.

1119
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Attendu que la fluoration de

1120
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,080
l'eau potable est une mesure

1121
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,040
recommandée par la direction

1122
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,040
générale de la santé publique

1123
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040
car elle contribue à la santé

1124
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,040
bucco-dentaire de la population

1125
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
et réduit les inégalités

1126
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,040
sociales en matière de santé.

1127
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Attendu que les décideurs de la

1128
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Ville de Montréal et ses élus

1129
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,040
n'ont aucune représentation

1130
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
citoyenne par voie électorale à

1131
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,040
la Ville de Beaconsfield.

1132
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Attendu que la décision de

1133
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
cesser la flot ration de l'eau

1134
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000
potable sont en consultation

1135
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000
citoyenne, ni consultation

1136
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000
auprès des élus de la Ville de

1137
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Beaconsfield, est un constat

1138
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
d'échec démocratique et du

1139
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
fonctionnement des instances

1140
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
municipales et un manque de

1141
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,000
respect envers la population.

1142
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Whereas the city of Beaconsfield

1143
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
has never expressed a desire to

1144
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,000
stop fluoridating its drinking

1145
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,000
water

1146
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Il est proposé d'exprimer le

1147
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
soutien au maintien de la

1148
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
fluoration de l'eau potable et

1149
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,000
de demander à la Ville de

1150
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Montréal de réviser sa décision

1151
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000
de cesser la fluoration de l'eau

1152
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000
potable. La copie de cette

1153
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
résolution-là sera envoyée à

1154
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,060
tous les gens

1155
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:04,060
de cette décision-là. Est-ce

1156
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,060
qu'on a quelqu'un qui propose?

1157
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:08,060
- Je propose fortement.

1158
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:10,060
- Je seconde.

1159
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:15,060
- En faveur? Contre? Est-ce

1160
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:21,060
qu'il y a des commentaires,

1161
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:23,060
de... que les conseillers

1162
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:24,060
veulent faire?

1163
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:27,060
(inaudible)

1164
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:30,060
- Le micro.

1165
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:32,060
- Pardon?

1166
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:34,060
- Je vais répéter parce que mon

1167
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,060
micro était pas allumée alors

1168
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:37,060
qu'il y a des conseillers et

1169
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:38,060
conseillères qui veulent

1170
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:39,060
s'exprimer pour les motifs pour

1171
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:41,060
lesquels ils sont en soutien, je

1172
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:42,060
suis prêt à les écouter je

1173
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:43,060
pourrais faire mes commentaires

1174
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:46,060
par la suite.

1175
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:49,060
- Je présume que monsieur

1176
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:50,060
Mercury aimerait... monsieur

1177
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:51,060
Mercuri, pardon. >> I take a

1178
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:52,060
little exception on how that was

1179
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:57,060
very. I think the mayor asked us

1180
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,060
if we wanted to talk but I'm

1181
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:00,020
glad you are willing to listen.

1182
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:04,020
It's kind.

1183
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:06,020
>> We had no prior debate, so

1184
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:10,020
it's good to -- those in favour,

1185
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:11,020
those against, if you have

1186
00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:12,020
comments, go ahead. Otherwise,

1187
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:13,020
I'm going to go.

1188
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:14,020
>> Go ahead.

1189
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:15,020
>> Do you have comments?

1190
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:17,020
>> Well, you voted against,

1191
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:18,020
Martin.

1192
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:19,020
>> You voted in favour, Robert.

1193
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:20,020
>> You want me to go first, is

1194
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:22,020
that it? Okay.

1195
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:23,020
>> That's usually how it goes.

1196
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:25,020
>> Okay, so Martin and I have

1197
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,020
spoken in advance one-on-one. We

1198
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:28,020
didn't have a chance to debate

1199
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:33,020
this in any formal setting. This

1200
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:38,020
is a topic that comes up every

1201
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:42,020
so often. Is it safe or not put

1202
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:48,020
fluoride in water? None of us

1203
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:51,020
here are water experts. None of

1204
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:53,020
us are scientists, although I am

1205
00:52:53,020 --> 00:52:55,020
actually, believe it or not, a

1206
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:59,020
degree in biochemistry. But

1207
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:01,080
there are two things that play.

1208
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,080
There is the safety of what's

1209
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,080
being done that the officials

1210
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
from Montréal are claiming as

1211
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,080
potentially unsafe, and then

1212
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
there is the process by which

1213
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,080
this is being done. That is, a

1214
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,080
separate topic, right? Je

1215
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
m'excuse si je m'exprime en

1216
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080
anglais, je peux le faire en

1217
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,080
français, les deux, comme le

1218
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,080
monde préfère. Du côté disons,

1219
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080
sciences, du côté sécuritaire,

1220
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
c'est pas ma décision. On

1221
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
s'entend. C'est pas à moi de

1222
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,080
décider. If fluoride in the

1223
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
water is safe. Je me fie à ce

1224
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,080
que les experts nous disent. I

1225
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
looked it up. Our minister of

1226
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:53,080
health, Health Canada, -- so,

1227
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080
public health of Québec. They

1228
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,040
all have positions that they're

1229
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,040
not concerned about the safety

1230
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,040
profile, they recognize

1231
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,040
efficacy, so keeping your teeth

1232
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,040
healthy, right? That's why. And

1233
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,040
their position is that putting

1234
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,040
fluoride in water is an

1235
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,040
inexpensive means of protecting

1236
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040
the populations dental health,

1237
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,040
whether you're young, old, rich,

1238
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,040
poor. Je peux prendre un verre

1239
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
d'eau. C'est légal pour tout le

1240
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,040
monde. Là-dessus, c'est pas à

1241
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,040
moi les poser des questions, on

1242
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,040
s'entend. If they were to change

1243
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
their position. I would probably

1244
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:48,040
change my position.

1245
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040
The other question is the

1246
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,040
process. Montréal controls the

1247
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,040
water plants. And as the Mayor

1248
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,040
has expressed, when it comes

1249
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,000
time to vote a,

1250
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,000
how many times do we talk about

1251
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,000
that at Council meetings? On est

1252
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,000
contre quelle affaire... et des

1253
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,000
fois, tu dis, écoutez, peut-être

1254
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,000
qu'il a raison. Ultimately, they

1255
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000
decide. But here is an instance

1256
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
where it's the West Island

1257
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000
population that's affected. Good

1258
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,000
or bad. Why are we not coming to

1259
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
the Beaconsfield's, the

1260
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Pointe-Claire's, the Kirkland's,

1261
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000
the Bader phase of this world to

1262
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,000
decide on behalf of our

1263
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,000
population?

1264
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Au-delà de ça ça arrive,? Than

1265
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000
politics. Maybe it's too

1266
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,000
expensive to do the right thing.

1267
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Ça coûte trop cher. Des fois, on

1268
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,000
a des bonnes idées mais on n'a

1269
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,000
pas l'argent pour. C'est

1270
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,060
correct, c'est la réalité. Mais

1271
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:06,060
l'infrastructure déjà. In our

1272
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:07,060
water plants -- it's already

1273
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:08,060
there. So, it's all we have to

1274
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:09,060
go buy 1 million dollars worth

1275
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:13,060
of equipment. C'est pas ça. The

1276
00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:15,060
cost to put fluoride in water,

1277
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:18,060
it's built into the budget and

1278
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:20,060
even to their comments from

1279
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:22,060
Montréal, that's not really the

1280
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:25,060
big expense. I take a little bit

1281
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:26,060
of a tongue-in-cheek approach

1282
00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:30,060
when they say, well, C'est

1283
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,060
dangereux pour les employés de

1284
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:33,060
la Ville de gérer ces produits

1285
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:37,060
chimiques là. Hey, let's welcome

1286
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:39,060
down, here these are

1287
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:41,060
professionals. I worked in

1288
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,060
chemistry labs with much more

1289
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:44,060
dangerous chemicals than

1290
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:45,060
fluoride. I trust that they have

1291
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,060
safety measures in place and I'm

1292
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:52,060
unaware of workplace accidents

1293
00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:54,060
happening at our water

1294
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:56,060
filtration plants. So I take a

1295
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:59,060
little exception at that. I also

1296
00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:04,020
take a little exception, the

1297
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:05,020
borough mayor who is responsible

1298
00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:08,020
for water, she's quoted in the

1299
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:10,020
Gazette as saying, you know, we

1300
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:12,020
don't want to use water as a

1301
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:15,020
vehicle for mitigation. We don't

1302
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:17,020
want to use water as a vehicle

1303
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:19,020
for pharmaceuticals. Okay,

1304
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:24,020
that's fine. Now the water that

1305
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:27,020
comes out of the lake is

1306
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:30,020
filtered, it goes through an eye

1307
00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:32,020
on is a shun process to kill

1308
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:34,020
bacteria. I may or may not be

1309
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:36,020
treated with UV, chloride,

1310
00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:37,020
sometimes iodine, there's other

1311
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:39,020
things to do to treat the water.

1312
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:43,020
But we're taking exception at

1313
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,020
fluoride. Anybody is welcome to

1314
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:46,020
drink the water straight out of

1315
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:48,020
the lake if you wish, I prefer

1316
00:57:48,020 --> 00:57:52,020
my water to be treated when I

1317
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:56,020
J'ouvre le robinet chez moi. And

1318
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:59,020
there's also a notion of is this

1319
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:02,080
health measure paternalistic? Is

1320
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080
this oppressive? Well, is it? I

1321
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,080
don't know. That's the pure

1322
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,080
nature of public health.

1323
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,080
Quelqu'un va prendre une

1324
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080
décision pour le bien-être de

1325
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:17,080
tout le monde c'est ça l'idée!

1326
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,080
Friends, that's why we wear

1327
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,080
seatbelts in our car. It's not

1328
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,080
really an option, right?

1329
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Somebody said put on your

1330
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,080
seatbelt because it's safer

1331
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,080
there is vitamin D in milk

1332
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,080
added. Si tu veux, tu veux pas.

1333
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Why? We live in Canada, guys, we

1334
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,080
don't get enough sunlight. They

1335
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,080
put vitamin D so we uptake

1336
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,080
calcium better. These are all

1337
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,080
decisions made by a group of

1338
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,080
people who study this and say

1339
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,080
this is for public health, and

1340
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
we are all going to have,

1341
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,080
ideally, healthier lives and

1342
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,080
live longer. So when I read this

1343
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
in the news I'm saying, well,

1344
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,080
what's going on here? Why is

1345
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,080
this decision coming from

1346
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,040
Montréal to remove something

1347
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,040
that we already have, they're

1348
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,040
fine with it. Qui existent déjà,

1349
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,040
déjà payé pour, il n'est pas

1350
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,040
obligé, et ça affecte pas

1351
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,040
Montréal. Ça nous affecte et on

1352
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,040
n'est pas consulté. Et tous les

1353
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,040
experts à qui on se fie dix

1354
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,040
merci beaucoup.

1355
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,040
So I'm really stuck with why

1356
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,040
this would come up, and it would

1357
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,040
be great to have a clear answer

1358
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,040
for Montréal, Mister Mayor, as

1359
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,040
to why this coming up.

1360
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,040
>> Well, I will certainly

1361
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,040
express our resolution at the

1362
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,040
next meeting, agglomeration

1363
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,040
meeting. It has not been tabled

1364
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,040
yet on the agenda of the

1365
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,040
agglomeration meeting, but I

1366
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,040
certainly will express it that

1367
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
so that whenever it does come,

1368
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040
up they certainly will be aware

1369
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,040
of are --

1370
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
>> And Mister Mayor --

1371
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,040
>> And we are going to send the

1372
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,000
resolution to Dr. Boileau, the

1373
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,000
National Public Health director,

1374
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Dr. Mylène Drouin, public health

1375
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,000
director for the Montréal

1376
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
region, and Christian Dubé,

1377
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,000
minister of health but, so the

1378
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,000
people that are responsible for

1379
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
health and Québec certainly will

1380
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000
be very much aware of our

1381
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,000
position.

1382
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,000
>> Thank you, and Mister Mayor,

1383
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000
thank you very much. And I guess

1384
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,000
one more request, why are they

1385
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,000
not affording us -- with their

1386
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,000
help, with their collaboration,

1387
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,000
the time, but if a consultation

1388
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000
is needed with the population,

1389
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
why is a not affording us the

1390
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,000
time to do that?

1391
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,000
>> That's a good question. I

1392
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000
can't answer that. Hopefully,

1393
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,000
they can give us an answer, but

1394
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,000
it's -- I believe it's the

1395
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000
borough mayor, the borough mayor

1396
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,060
from Lachine is responsible for

1397
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:05,060
water, and I think it's for her,

1398
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:08,060
it's a political reason to do

1399
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:12,060
this, so I -- but this is not a

1400
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:15,060
political situation, it's not a

1401
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:17,060
political region, it's a health

1402
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:18,060
reason. It should be considered

1403
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:21,060
a health reason. So --

1404
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:25,060
>> Thank you for the time. But

1405
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:26,060
>> I think there is either

1406
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:28,060
somebody else who voted in

1407
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:31,060
favour, that's but -- wants to

1408
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:32,060
comment.

1409
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:33,060
>> Certainly. Thank you, Mister

1410
01:01:33,060 --> 01:01:35,060
Mayor. I think, first of all,

1411
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:37,060
I'm not a dentist but at the

1412
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:40,060
same time I think I am a parent,

1413
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:42,060
and I think I've done a lot of

1414
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:44,060
research on fluoride. It's

1415
01:01:44,060 --> 01:01:45,060
something we've heard from the

1416
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:48,060
odd person overtime, why do we

1417
01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:50,060
fluoridating Beaconsfield. I

1418
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:51,060
think that everything can one

1419
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:53,060
can read on fluoridation's it is

1420
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:58,060
safe, healthy, it's not

1421
01:01:58,060 --> 01:01:59,060
dangerous to our health. I've

1422
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:01,020
been drinking city water for a

1423
01:02:01,020 --> 01:02:04,020
long, long time. So I just don't

1424
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:05,020
understand where they're coming

1425
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:08,020
from. At least in terms of why

1426
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:11,020
they're taking something that's

1427
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:13,020
been so important to our

1428
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:17,020
children's lives and oral health

1429
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:20,020
and even to our own in terms of

1430
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:22,020
ensuring that we don't have

1431
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:23,020
cavities. And the fact of the

1432
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:25,020
matter is is if we look at

1433
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:29,020
research, you know, either the

1434
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:32,020
Québec or Canada dentists

1435
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:33,020
association, as well as the

1436
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:35,020
United States dental

1437
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:36,020
association, you know,

1438
01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:38,020
definitely recommend fluoride in

1439
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:40,020
water. There is just nothing

1440
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:42,020
scientific that up until now

1441
01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:46,020
that indicates fluoride is -- in

1442
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:47,020
the water is bad. In fact, I

1443
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:49,020
think there's only about --

1444
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:52,020
whatever the number is, but it's

1445
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:56,020
like but 0.17 or 1.7 parts per

1446
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:58,020
million or whatever it is. So

1447
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:00,080
that is a safe number. I think

1448
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,080
the biggest thing as well is

1449
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,080
when we look at the children of

1450
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,080
Beaconsfield who've lived here

1451
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,080
for the last 40, 50 years that

1452
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,080
the water has been fluoridated,

1453
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,080
most children grow up without a

1454
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,080
cavity. I think we were --

1455
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,080
talking about our kids. Anyways

1456
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,080
and still been parents -- and

1457
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,080
now parents, and have not a

1458
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,080
caveat, I think that's the

1459
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,080
important's of fluoride in the

1460
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,080
water of children who are in

1461
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
their development years. At the

1462
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,080
same time, there is an

1463
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,080
interesting study that I read

1464
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,080
just in the past few weeks at

1465
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,080
the city of Calgary but it is

1466
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,080
returning to add I -- adding

1467
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,080
fluoride to the water. They

1468
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,080
originally brought it into the

1469
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,080
cities in let's say, the 1990s

1470
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,080
or the EVs, and 2011 they

1471
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,080
decided to discontinue fluoride.

1472
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,080
When other cities, bigger cities

1473
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,080
in Alberta continue to

1474
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,040
fluoridated water. Now, as of

1475
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,040
2022 and I think at this point

1476
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,040
in time now, because of the

1477
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,040
decision to return to water, I

1478
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,040
think those water plants have

1479
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,040
now been completed and should be

1480
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,040
up and running, and if not later

1481
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,040
this year, and early next year.

1482
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,040
So Calgary is returning to

1483
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,040
fluoridated water. And within

1484
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,040
that article that I read, there

1485
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,040
is actually a very interesting

1486
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,040
research report that came from

1487
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,040
the University of Alberta, where

1488
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,040
they had research -- because

1489
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,040
this was a perfect test, you

1490
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,040
know, to be able to look at

1491
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,040
residents in several major

1492
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,040
cities of Alberta compared to

1493
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,040
Alberta, or Calgary, and what

1494
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,040
were the effects on the children

1495
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,040
during that tenure period that

1496
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,040
Calgary has been not

1497
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,040
fluoridating it's water. And

1498
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
what they found was really very

1499
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,040
tragic. Many children are

1500
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,040
getting cavities. That's

1501
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040
painful. They have to have

1502
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,040
injections if -- for cavities.

1503
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,000
In some cases, it's bad enough,

1504
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
you have rotten teeth, and at

1505
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
that, point teeth have to be

1506
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,000
pulled. So it's very unfair to

1507
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000
-- our cause them a lot of pain

1508
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,000
and I think Calgary is certainly

1509
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
doing the right thing to return

1510
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,000
to fluoridation. And I think of

1511
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000
anything, it's very unfair for

1512
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,000
what Montréal is doing here. I

1513
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,000
think from what I've read, they

1514
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,000
were saying they had a choice in

1515
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
Montréal, which was to either

1516
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,000
cancel fluoridation in the West

1517
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,000
Island or Pointe-Claire Dorval

1518
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,000
plants, or add it to the rest of

1519
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Montréal. And I really think

1520
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,000
that I don't understand why

1521
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
they're not looking at the care

1522
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,000
of their own residents, because

1523
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,000
fluoridation is important for

1524
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,000
children. And basically, you

1525
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,000
know, invite them to take a look

1526
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,000
at kids mouth, come to the West

1527
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Island, look at where we've got

1528
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,000
fluoridated water and have them

1529
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,000
compare with children living in

1530
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Montréal in certain parts where

1531
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,060
parents can't necessarily afford

1532
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:04,060
proper oral health care. I think

1533
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:06,060
that would be the big

1534
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:08,060
determining factor. So it's very

1535
01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:10,060
unfair and it has to be politics

1536
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:12,060
and money, because it means a

1537
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:13,060
major expense, whatever that

1538
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:16,060
would be, to add fluoridation to

1539
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:20,060
the Montréal water treatments.

1540
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:21,060
Thank, you Mister Mayor.

1541
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:23,060
>> Thank, you Roger. Any other

1542
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:27,060
from the yes side want to

1543
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:28,060
comment?

1544
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:30,060
>> I will just add, maybe

1545
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:31,060
summarizing because everything

1546
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
that was said, I fully agree

1547
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:34,060
with in terms of -- frankly, it

1548
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:37,060
just comes down to 3.3 in my

1549
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:39,060
mind. I know, Councillor mercury

1550
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:40,060
went into it in more details,

1551
01:06:40,060 --> 01:06:41,060
but it's a public health

1552
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:43,060
situation whereby we've got

1553
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:45,060
national and provincial

1554
01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:47,060
organization supporting this,

1555
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:50,060
basically unilaterally. So --

1556
01:06:50,060 --> 01:06:51,060
experts that have studied this

1557
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:52,060
for -- this is not a new

1558
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:54,060
concept, people, this has been

1559
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:56,060
out for decades and in our water

1560
01:06:56,060 --> 01:07:00,020
here for decades as well. So the

1561
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:02,020
histories there, the data's been

1562
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:03,020
proven, and it's costly being

1563
01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:04,020
looked at and so on. So seems to

1564
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,020
be well supported over all. Key

1565
01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:08,020
point to is the infrastructure,

1566
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:09,020
more on the operational side of,

1567
01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:11,020
this exist in Pointe-Claire,

1568
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:12,020
it's working, there's nothing

1569
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,020
wrong with it. They're not a

1570
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:15,020
pivot point to make heavy

1571
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:17,020
investments and operations. It's

1572
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,020
still operating and it's still

1573
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:19,020
working. So I want to dismantle

1574
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:20,020
something that's working? And

1575
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,020
again, Montréal seems to be

1576
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,020
ignoring these facts and it's

1577
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
disappointing that, as you

1578
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:26,020
mentioned before, that this is

1579
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:28,020
their behaviour and the way of

1580
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:29,020
choosing to work, so we

1581
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:32,020
certainly want to make our

1582
01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:33,020
voices clear. Both sides I

1583
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:36,020
understand here, but I

1584
01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:37,020
appreciate the time to reiterate

1585
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:38,020
these points, but I definitely

1586
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:40,020
want to make that clear to

1587
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020
Montréal. George, I will carry

1588
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:44,020
that torch when I go back, along

1589
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:45,020
with other communities this

1590
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:46,020
water is serving. So I think

1591
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:47,020
it's an important issue, not

1592
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:48,020
just for the children as well,

1593
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:50,020
for their whole community I

1594
01:07:50,020 --> 01:07:52,020
think has something to gain by

1595
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:53,020
this. So I'm fully supporting

1596
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:56,020
this, 110%. And hopefully that

1597
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:58,020
our voice will add up with many

1598
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:59,020
others who speak about this in

1599
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:03,080
the coming weeks to come.

1600
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,080
>> Dominique, any comments?

1601
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,080
>> I think my colleagues have

1602
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,080
said it all. Thank you very

1603
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,080
much. But

1604
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,080
>> Now, the floor is yours,

1605
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:20,080
Martin. No? But No, no, it's not

1606
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,080
question period now.

1607
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,080
>> I know, but I just want to

1608
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080
say -- that

1609
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,080
>> No, I'm sorry.

1610
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,080
>> I tried to mention, people

1611
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080
are not choosing to put fluoride

1612
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,080
in water --

1613
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,080
>> I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but

1614
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,080
there are no comments.

1615
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,080
>> All right, I don't really

1616
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,080
want fluoride in the water. -- I

1617
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
eat organic.

1618
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,080
>> Would you talk to her?

1619
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,080
[Inaudible]

1620
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,080
I don't -- I agree with the City

1621
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,080
of Montréal would not putting

1622
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,080
fluoride in water.

1623
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,080
>> No, please. This is not the

1624
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,080
time. Sorry.

1625
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
>> Fluoride actually --

1626
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,040
>> Sorry.

1627
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,040
>> Fluoride is used as a

1628
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,040
pesticide to kill --

1629
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,040
>> Sorry.

1630
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,040
>> It is an actual toxin and

1631
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,040
it's that --

1632
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,040
>> He's going to --

1633
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,040
>> I have it in my toothpaste,

1634
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,040
but I don't want to swallow it.

1635
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,040
So to be forcing it in

1636
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,040
everybody's water is not fair.

1637
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,040
It's like for some people to

1638
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
take vaccines. People have a

1639
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:25,040
right to take those.

1640
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,040
>> Would you comment, --

1641
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,040
[Laughter]

1642
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,040
Yeah, I think so.

1643
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:39,040
>> I think it should be --

1644
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,040
[Inaudible]

1645
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,040
For us this down people's

1646
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,040
throats -- so what, people don't

1647
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,040
have --

1648
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,040
>> Nicole, the question period

1649
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,040
is over, okay? The next time,

1650
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,040
you have to organize it ahead of

1651
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,040
time. We'd like for Houston City

1652
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,000
-- we invite you to stay, but

1653
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,000
you can't stop talking, you have

1654
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:14,000
to leave.

1655
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,000
>> Hold for the -- it's your

1656
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,000
turn. - Merci. Merci, Dominic.

1657
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,000
Dans un premier temps, je veux

1658
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,000
être très clair. Je suis pas

1659
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,000
régulière... je bois

1660
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,000
régulièrement l'eau du robinet.

1661
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,000
En fait, à la maison, je suis le

1662
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
seul qui le fait parce que c'est

1663
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,000
l'autre qui nous est fournie et

1664
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,000
elle est bonne. J'ai aucune

1665
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,000
crainte. No worry whatsoever

1666
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,000
whatsoever regarding the

1667
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000
fluoride in the water or the

1668
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,000
potential for nefarious effects

1669
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000
that could have. That's not

1670
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,000
where I'm at. I heard my

1671
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,000
colleagues, in for the most

1672
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,000
part, I agree with a lot of the

1673
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,000
things they said. I don't like

1674
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,000
the way Montréal conducted

1675
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,060
itself in this file. I think

1676
01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:05,060
it's not condoning, it's just to

1677
01:11:05,060 --> 01:11:06,060
be clear.

1678
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:10,060
Condamnable. >> Condescending.

1679
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:15,060
>> Condescending it's wrong, you

1680
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:17,060
know. And having said that,

1681
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:20,060
however, I still think that we

1682
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:25,060
are taxpayers, we pay taxes. And

1683
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:26,060
we have a duty to make sure that

1684
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:28,060
the taxes are used properly,

1685
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:30,060
whether it be here in

1686
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:31,060
Beaconsfield or those we paid

1687
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:34,060
through our taxes that end up

1688
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:38,060
being used by Montréal. So the

1689
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:41,060
main reasons why I voted against

1690
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,060
a resolution is because I don't

1691
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:47,060
think that -- we are the ones

1692
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:49,060
that should be paying for it.

1693
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:51,060
And I will get to that in a

1694
01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:54,060
moment. So Florida's Asian in

1695
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:57,060
Canada is widely divergent from

1696
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:59,060
one province to another. Ontario

1697
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:02,020
is up to 72% of its water

1698
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:06,020
systems being -- adding fluoride

1699
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:09,020
and being made available to its

1700
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:10,020
residents. In Québec, we're at

1701
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:12,020
the other end of the spectrum,

1702
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:15,020
at 1%. About 80,000, 80 to

1703
01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:17,020
90,000 people get fluoride in

1704
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:19,020
their water, and it's us here in

1705
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:21,020
the West Island. Where the only

1706
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:25,020
ones in the province. But so my

1707
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:26,020
take on, this we're talk about

1708
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:27,020
public health, and I think it's

1709
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:29,020
important that we keep focused

1710
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:31,020
on that, my take on this is that

1711
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:34,020
if it's really a public health

1712
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:36,020
issue, it's a provincial issue,

1713
01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:38,020
it's up to the Québec government

1714
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,020
to take the appropriate measures

1715
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:45,020
and pay for the infrastructure

1716
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:47,020
and the service of fluoride. And

1717
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:49,020
in fact, it's a very similar

1718
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:50,020
position that we've taken with

1719
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:52,020
the sound wall here in

1720
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,020
Beaconsfield. When Dr. Kaiser

1721
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,020
mentioned that it was a public

1722
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,020
health issue, we said, you know

1723
01:12:58,020 --> 01:12:59,020
what, if it's a public health

1724
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:00,080
issue, Québec should take care

1725
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:05,080
of it. So I don't understand why

1726
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,080
locally we should be paying

1727
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,080
taxes for something that is, in

1728
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,080
my opinion, Québec -- like the

1729
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,080
Québec government's

1730
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,080
responsibility. And also for a

1731
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,080
service that is perhaps not as

1732
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080
needed today as it was 20, 30,

1733
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,080
40 years ago, it was dental

1734
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,080
services for children are now

1735
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,080
readily available and paid by

1736
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,080
that ramp Q, which is not the

1737
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,080
case 30, 40, or maybe 50 years

1738
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,080
ago. On met du fluor dans notre

1739
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,080
eau. On tire la chasse des

1740
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,080
toilettes, il y a personne qui

1741
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,080
en bénéficie. On arrose nos

1742
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,080
pelouses, on remplit nos

1743
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,080
piscines, on lave les voitures,

1744
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:45,080
etc., etc.. Il y a peut-être

1745
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,080
dix, 15, 20% de l'eau que nous

1746
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,080
consommons qui finit

1747
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,080
effectivement par être un

1748
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,080
service public dirigé

1749
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,040
bucco-dentaires. Alors je pense

1750
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,040
que quand on regarde ça, il faut

1751
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,040
aussi garder en tête que

1752
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,040
merci.

1753
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:25,040
-- And so, we are also -- doctor

1754
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,040
Joe Schwartz, if we want to talk

1755
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,040
about doctors and their take on,

1756
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,040
it the relative service that

1757
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
fluoride in the water

1758
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,040
represents, doctor Schwartz is

1759
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,040
the director of McGill

1760
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,040
university's office for science

1761
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,040
in society, and he was quoted as

1762
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040
saying the need for fluoride in

1763
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,040
certain areas, I think, is no

1764
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,040
longer there. He's speaking from

1765
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,040
a Québec standpoint if he's

1766
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,040
saying that -- I'd like to think

1767
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,040
when it comes to different

1768
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:01,000
income strata, but -- it's

1769
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,000
perhaps not in the socioeconomic

1770
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
typical area where health care

1771
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,000
is suffering. I'm not saying

1772
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,000
that there are people suffering.

1773
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
I don't want to be misquoted on

1774
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,000
that, but everything is

1775
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,000
relative. And it also says, Dr.

1776
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,000
Shorts, that as long as kids

1777
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,000
bossed -- brush their teeth with

1778
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,000
fluoridated toothpaste station

1779
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,000
miss out on the benefit of the

1780
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,000
mineral or wants the City of

1781
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,000
Montréal turns off the tap. So I

1782
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,000
really look at it as being a

1783
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,000
huge waste of money. It's a

1784
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,000
small amount, but it's

1785
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,000
nonetheless a huge waste of

1786
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,000
money. And therefore in the

1787
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,000
absence of consultation with the

1788
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
public, I go with what I feel is

1789
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,000
right. And I'm not saying that

1790
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,000
my colleagues are wrong. There

1791
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,000
we go. - Oui. Juste une couple

1792
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,000
de commentaires sur ce que vous

1793
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:03,060
avez dit, monsieur. Moi, je suis

1794
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:07,060
pas certain que même si le

1795
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:10,060
dentiste, c'est gratuit et tout

1796
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:11,060
ça pour mes enfants, je suis pas

1797
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:13,060
certain que je veux que les

1798
01:16:13,060 --> 01:16:18,060
enfants aient des dehors...

1799
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:23,060
dedans avec des carrés. Je ne

1800
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:26,060
suis pas certain que je voudrais

1801
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:30,060
ça. Moi, j'ai aidé... élevé deux

1802
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:32,060
enfants à Kirkland piqueurs

1803
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:34,060
Field et ils ont quand même un

1804
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:36,060
certain âge aujourd'hui. Ils ont

1805
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:39,060
jamais eu de problème avec leur

1806
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:44,060
dans. Et le coup, il faut faire

1807
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:47,060
attention, parce que

1808
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:49,060
l'équipement qui est en place,

1809
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:51,060
ça fait des années qu'il est en

1810
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:54,060
place et cet équipement-là

1811
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:57,060
fonctionne très bien

1812
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:58,060
présentement. Il y a pas de

1813
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:02,020
coûts additionnels pour la

1814
01:17:02,020 --> 01:17:03,020
maintenir comme elle est

1815
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:07,020
présentement. D'ailleurs, à un

1816
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:09,020
moment donné, Montréal avait

1817
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:13,020
dit, on va regarder la

1818
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:16,020
fluoration dans l'ouest de l'île

1819
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:19,020
jusqu'à ce qu'on soit obligé de

1820
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:21,020
changer l'équipement. Et à ce

1821
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:23,020
moment-là, on pourra prendre une

1822
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:25,020
décision peut-être de l'éliminer

1823
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:27,020
tout simplement. Alors

1824
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:31,020
l'équipement fonctionne bien.

1825
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:33,020
D'enlever la fluoration dans

1826
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:37,020
l'ouest de l'île, ça va coûter

1827
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:40,020
beaucoup plus d'argent que la

1828
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,020
maintenir aujourd'hui. Donc

1829
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:43,020
c'est pas une question de coûts.

1830
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:46,020
C'est une question de...

1831
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:51,020
beaucoup plus politique.

1832
01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:54,020
>> No, no, no. Non, non, non!

1833
01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:56,020
Kevin, please --

1834
01:17:56,020 --> 01:18:01,080
>> My sister just -- but

1835
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,080
[Inaudible]

1836
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:09,080
Because --

1837
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,080
[Inaudible]

1838
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,080
On continue la réunion.

1839
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,080
>> Deposit or the director's

1840
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,080
report.

1841
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,080
- Oui, Monsieur le Maire. La

1842
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,080
plupart des directeurs, les

1843
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,080
rapports des directeurs. On a

1844
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,080
reçu de la partie municipale du

1845
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,080
visionnement du conseil. J'en ai

1846
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,080
un autre qui a été déposé aussi,

1847
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,080
le rapport des permis du mois de

1848
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,080
septembre. Je peux vous dire, on

1849
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,080
s'active beaucoup présentement à

1850
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,080
préparer l'hiver et notre

1851
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,080
Service des loisirs a préparait

1852
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,080
déjà les activités hivernales.

1853
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,080
- Alors, on est rendu à la ferme

1854
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,080
nouvelle?

1855
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,080
- Il y en a pas, je crois. Donc

1856
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,040
la levée de la séance?

1857
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,040
- Je propose.

1858
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,040
>> I second. - Alors, tout le

1859
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,040
monde en faveur de terminer la

1860
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,040
séance? Merci beaucoup. Thank

1861
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,040
you very much for being here in

1862
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:21,040
the council chamber and also to

1863
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
those that are watching us on

1864
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,040
the webcast. Thank you very much

1865
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
for the interest that you are

1866
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,040
showing in your city. Merci

1867
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,040
beaucoup d'avoir beaucoup

1868
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,040
d'intérêt et on se reverra le

1869
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:38,040
mois prochain. But -- off until

1870
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040
next month, I see some regular

1871
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,040
people that come to every

1872
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,040
meeting. I hope to see you again

1873
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:52,040
next month. Thank you very much.