[0:00] Bonsoir
[0:01] et bienvenue à la séance ordinaire du conseil
[0:04] municipal, lundi 21 octobre. 24.
[0:09] And welcome to the regular
[0:11] meeting of the Municipal Council of Monday,
[0:14] October 21st, 2024.
[0:20] So now to open the agenda,
[0:23] I'm going to ask our city clerk to go ahead.
[0:28] Donc l'adoption de l'ordre du jour de la séance
ordinaire
[0:31] du Conseil de la Ville de Beaconsfield du 21
octobre 2024,
[0:35] avec les modifications suivantes pour le point
20.3.
[0:40] Elle a pour titre, ajoutant en finalité,
[0:44] pour un montant de 1 168 650 $ et 70 800,
toutes taxes
[0:50] incluses pour les services de base et un montant
de 210 000,
[0:54] toutes taxes incluses, à parfaire pour les
services complémentaires.
[0:58] C'est le point 20.3 pour le point 20.4
[1:03] qui concerne éléments experts conseils.
[1:05] On ajoute 299 912,45 $
[1:12] all taxes included
[1:15] services
[1:17] 16000 all taxes included.
[1:19] To be analyse for this service.
[1:22] Donc ça, c'est 20.4 20.5 pour MLC Associés.
[1:27] Nous ajoutons pour un montant de 171 674,74 $
[1:33] cents toutes taxes incluses pour les services
de base et un montant
[1:36] de 26 000 $, taxes incluses, à parfaire
pour les services complémentaires
[1:40] et enfin à 20.6 pour Boutillette Pariseau.
[1:46] for an amount of $397,860.47.
[1:52] All taxes include for basic services and an
amount of $89,000,
[1:57] all taxes included to be finalized for additional
services.
[2:02] Je propose
[2:06] qui a peu
[2:08] d'appuis.
[2:13] Alors
[2:15] tu vas en faveur
[2:18] à l'unanimité.
[2:21] Alors maintenant, nous allons passer
[2:23] au rapport du commandant Goyette
[2:27] sur les activités
[2:30] à Beaconsfield durant le dernier mois.
[2:33] Comment la cueillette
[2:38] fonctionne
[2:42] sans compter ?
[2:49] Thank you for having me tonight.
[2:51] So this is the report for the crime for the
past month and begins film.
[2:54] donc les faits saillants pour le PDQ un depuis
le dernier mois,
[2:57] avec une seule au niveau criminel assez tranquille.
[3:00] Ce mois ci, on parle de un voie de fait sur
une personne.
[3:03] Il y a un vol de véhicule.
[3:05] Au niveau des vélos, notre escouade vélo
[3:09] et ils ont parcouru avec une file de plus de
100 kilomètres à vélo ce mois ci.
[3:13] Ils y ont également participé et assisté
des étudiants de l'école
[3:16] de plusieurs écoles lors de sorties de vélo.
[3:19] Pour les sixième année et ils ont également
assuré
[3:22] la sécurité lors de course.
[3:23] Terry Fox
[3:26] pour nos agents communautaires se sont présentés
[3:28] au Beaconsfield High School concernant un phénomène
inquiétant dans les écoles.
[3:32] Dans les cours d'école
[3:34] des Fight Club, ils ont sensibilisé les étudiants
[3:37] aux nombreuses conséquences possibles et ils
ont répondu aux questions
[3:39] au niveau criminel et rassurer également
[3:42] la direction.
[3:45] Pour ce qui est de la sécurité routière,
[3:48] durant le dernier mois, nous avons fait six
opérations,
[3:51] entre autres sur Saint-Charles et Beacon Hill
pour la vitesse
[3:54] dans les zones de 50 kilomètres heure.
[3:56] Neuf constats d'infraction ont été émis
pour les contrevenants
[3:59] et six opérations ont été faites dans les
zones scolaires
[4:02] et corridors scolaires pour un total de 29
constats.
[4:06] C'est ce qui
[4:07] conclut les faits saillants pour le dernier
mois avec une.
[4:11] Merci de votre confiance.
[4:13] Vous pouvez en tout temps composez le cinq
un quatre deux huit zéro zéro un zéro un
[4:17] pour joindre le poste de quartier un ou par
courriel au PDQ
[4:21] un à Commercial SPVM qc.ca.
[4:25] Soyez assuré de notre disponibilité pour
toutes préoccupations
[4:28] soulevées par les citoyens de Beaconsfield.
[4:31] Again !
[4:33] You may call (514) 280-0101 at any time to
reach station
[4:39] one or send the email to Q one at SBM
[4:42] that you say that's it for any concern.
[4:46] Merci beaucoup
[4:50] any questions for the, commander?
[4:56] Oh, pas de question
[5:00] commandant, merci beaucoup.
[5:01] Et puis continuez à faire votre bon travail.
[5:04] La surveillance pour la vitesse avec une spéciale,
c'est
[5:09] excellent comme travail.
[5:11] Merci beaucoup.
[5:16] go to the questions that, we received in writing.
[5:21] and, the first question was from
[5:26] Jean-Guy Blondin West Hill
[5:30] Les parcs de Windermere et Shannon sont jonchés
[5:34] de branches d'arbres qui n'ont pas été ramassées
de l'été.
[5:38] Y a t il un suivi hebdomadaire de la condition
des parcs
[5:41] pour la sécurité des enfants ?
[5:44] Alors, monsieur le Bureau vert, les espaces
boisés, boisés
[5:48] seront traités différemment des espaces verts.
[5:52] Les branches au sous sol font partie du boisé
[5:55] et ne sont pas ramassées pendant l'été.
[5:59] Les surveillants de parcs vérifient
[6:02] les parcs et espaces verts quotidiennement.
[6:05] La patrouille municipale et les contremaîtres
[6:08] font également des tournées ponctuelles.
[6:11] De plus, lors de la tonte de gazon,
[6:15] les problématiques importantes sont signalées
[6:21] Second question is
[6:23] from Tom LaBelle from Filton.
[6:27] how many claims were filed against the city?
[6:31] How many have been settled via your insurance
[6:33] and what is best and worst case cost to the
city?
[6:38] There were 432 claims,
[6:43] 2527 of which were
[6:45] submitted outside the deadline.
[6:48] Those 432 claims and 27 were received.
[6:54] The claims are still being processed
[6:56] by the insurer, so we don't have any, report
[7:01] on the claims themselves.
[7:05] The next, questions were
[7:10] from, Derek Pound's Sweet Bar.
[7:13] question one cultural center
[7:16] versus recreation center projects
[7:20] authorization.
[7:22] and use questioning on 20.3, 20.4
[7:25] and 20.5 and 20.6.
[7:29] Authorization to sign contracts for professional
services
[7:32] with four members of the winning team of the
multi
[7:36] disciplinary Architectural Competition for
the construction
[7:40] of a multi-purpose cultural center.
[7:43] Although council are gung ho on this project,
[7:46] I am concerned that more important projects
such as the Recreation
[7:50] Center Restoration Project are being neglected
[7:54] as the city received the $20 million grant
requested in September 2023
[7:59] from Quebec towards the recreation center restoration.
[8:03] And if not, are they?
[8:05] Are there any alternative plans?
[8:09] The City Mister
[8:10] Panels has not received their requested grant.
[8:14] The city is still considering alternative plans.
[8:18] The recreation center restoration project is
ongoing
[8:23] in February 2020, for a $2.2 million contract
was awarded
[8:28] for professional services
[8:30] for the preparation of plans and specific actions
[8:34] relating to the renovation work and upgrading
of the Beacon
[8:38] Hill Recreation Center,
[8:41] and in April 2020 for a $5.4 million contract
was awarded
[8:46] for the renovation of the Recreation Center
ice rink
[8:51] and there will be more investments
[8:53] proposed in the upcoming investment budget.
[8:57] I think we have to keep in mind
[9:00] that the rec center is 50 years old.
[9:07] The, next question
[9:10] had a rather long preamble,
[9:15] but the question is if the City of Beacon Shield
[9:20] requesting the photo radars be installed
[9:24] along A20 in Beaconsfield,
[9:27] the city made a request
[9:30] to the MQ in 2020 2012
[9:35] and again in 2019 for 48 hours on a 20,
[9:40] and the empty queue indicated both times that
their request
[9:45] did not meet the applicable criteria
[9:48] for the installation of photo radars,
[9:52] and obviously, after two attempts,
[9:55] we do not plan on making another request.
[10:01] And the next question is from, Madam Corrado.
[10:07] Nicole. Go ahead.
[10:08] You said, Andrew, the first question is please
ensure that demolition
[10:13] not be done unless the building is unsafe.
[10:16] She's talking about 130 Jasper
[10:20] and insist that the new
[10:21] building be in the same style and size as the
original.
[10:24] And sure, trees are protected and sure trees
are protected.
[10:30] Madam Corrado, the,
[10:32] demolition request is evaluated
[10:36] by the demolition committee.
[10:39] And, any the new building that will be,
[10:44] so that it was submitted, has a request for
that property
[10:50] will be evaluated by the planning
[10:52] advisory committee.
[10:55] The, second question,
[10:59] what I'm gonna do is,
[11:01] again, it's a long preamble.
[11:05] but I we have summarized the question.
[11:08] The second question is regarding implementing
additional animal services,
[11:13] including animal ambulance services,
[11:16] humane education services,
[11:19] the spay and neuter
[11:21] neuter clinic, cultural activities,
[11:25] animal activities, and other measures regarding
wildlife
[11:29] and rodenticide bans.
[11:34] As for your suggestions on animals and regarding
the dog pound
[11:38] madam, Colorado the city administration
[11:42] has already answered this question.
[11:45] I had a previous,
[11:47] I previous time and has indicated that the
city has no plans
[11:52] to expand its animal services at this time.
[11:57] So those were your questions and answers
[12:00] to the questions that were submitted in writing.
[12:04] And now we can go to the questions from the
floor.
[12:17] Bonsoir Pauline.
[12:19] Oui, j'ai une question à propos de 60.3
[12:24] la liste d'inventaire des immeubles construits
avant 1940.
[12:28] Est ce que cette liste va être rendue publique
ou va être publiée quelque part ?
[12:33] Je crois que oui.
[12:33] Mais je vais laisser monsieur Boileau vous
répondre à cette question là.
[12:37] Je crois que oui, ça va être l'information
qui va être publiée.
[12:41] Oui, ça pourrait être rendu public.
[12:44] On va le mettre sur le site web, mais c'est
de l'information qui devient
[12:47] accessible au public une fois que c'est approuvé
par le conseil.
[12:50] Puis il y a une
[12:51] centaine d'adresses sur des propriétés de
1940 ou avant
[12:55] qui sont sur le territoire de la ville et qui
sont présentées à l'agglomération.
[13:02] C'est vraiment, c'est vraiment un fait.
[13:04] Ça fait suite à la loi 80, adaptée pour
protéger le patrimoine bâti
[13:09] des propriétés de 1940 et avant
[13:11] donc là, ça va être rendu public.
[13:14] Il y a des travaux qui sont dans l'agglomération
de Montréal
[13:17] à ce niveau là.
[13:18] Est ce que il faut être approuvé par Montréal
?
[13:21] l'Agglo,
[13:23] c'est à dire un comité de démolition ?
[13:25] On ne veut pas que ce soit approuvé.
[13:28] C'est que les propriétés vont être évaluées.
[13:31] Puis quand il va faire
[13:31] des demandes de démolition, on va devoir soumettre
ça à l'Agglo.
[13:35] C'est l'Agglo qui va accepter ou pas que les
maisons soient démolies.
[13:38] C'est pour ça
[13:39] que cette démarche là, qui se passait directement
dans les villes avant.
[13:43] En plus, ça s'est passé au niveau des MRC
agglomération dans le futur.
[13:48] Puis, est ce qu'il peut y avoir une
[13:51] une évaluation ou une restriction ?
[13:54] Qu'est ce que vous allez faire avec cette liste
là ?
[13:56] Après les panneaux, nous, on fait rien, Là,
on se met ça à l'agglo.
[13:59] Puis eux vont faire les évaluations.
[14:00] Il y a toutes sortes de documents et d'informations,
[14:03] puis qui vont être analysés à ce moment
là
[14:06] par par ces
[14:09] instances là. Seulement, s'il
[14:11] y a une demande de démolition ou ils peuvent
faire toute la liste.
[14:14] Bien.
[14:14] Je pense qu'il va analyser toute la liste pour
déterminer les listes, les maisons
[14:18] qui devraient être prises en considération
au moment d'une demande de démolition.
[14:22] S'il y avait des démolitions, évidemment.
[14:25] Donc c'est certain que c'est pas les quelques
centaines d'adresses
[14:29] sur notre liste qui vont demeurer
[14:31] à caractère patrimonial, si vous permettez.
[14:34] Mais ça va être évalué par par l'agglomération
en fonction
[14:38] des nouvelles règles qui ont été adoptées
par le gouvernement du Québec.
[14:41] Je pense que c'était en 2023 juin 2023.
[14:45] Donc comme on dirait là, ça fait un peu plus
d'un an
[14:48] que ce sujet là, il circule, un an et demi
probablement.
[14:51] Puis est ce qu'on s'en servir ?
[14:53] C'était des maisons ou non.
[14:55] Il y aura pas de citations, pas de citations.
[14:58] En tout cas, pas à ma connaissance. Je ne
pense pas que sont rendus là.
[15:00] Est ce que ça d'autres étapes dans le futur
?
[15:02] Mais à ce moment ci, ma compréhension, c'est
qu'il n'y a pas d'hésitation.
[15:05] C'est l'objectif n'est pas de faire des citations
là, c'est de protéger.
[15:09] En cas de demande de démolition, c'est quand
même une certaine différence.
[15:14] Puis est ce que la possibilité de racheter
des immeubles qui ont été construits
[15:18] après 1950 mais qui ont une certaine valeur
patrimoniale d'unicité ?
[15:23] Mais là, à ce moment là,
[15:24] ça va se faire localement par le comité de
démolition de la ville.
[15:28] Si la Ville décide, avec une bâtisse construite
en 1962
[15:33] de devait avoir à caractère patrimonial toutes
sortes de raisons.
[15:36] Mais ça, la ville, ce ne sera pas au niveau
régional ou provincial.
[15:41] OK, j'avais une question à propos de notre
point 20.1
[15:45] on parle d'achats d'antenne pour les compteurs
d'eau résidentiels.
[15:49] Est ce que c'est essentiel
[15:52] d'avoir un changement de compteurs d'eau à
ce point ci de l'année ?
[15:58] Euh. En fait, les compteurs
[16:00] d'eau que nous avons ont largement dépassé
leur durée de vie utile.
[16:04] Donc oui, c'est essentiel pour question d'équité
par rapport
[16:07] à l'ensemble des citoyens d'avoir des équipements
[16:10] qui compte l'eau de façon équitable pour
chacun.
[16:13] Il y a des compteurs d'eau
[16:14] qui sont remplacés à chaque année pour toutes
sortes de raisons
[16:18] de grosseur, de tuyauterie ou de fonctionnement
douteux.
[16:23] Donc ces gens là, ils vont payer le plein
montant de la consommation d'eau,
[16:26] ce qui n'est pas le cas pour tout le monde.
[16:27] Des compteurs d'eau qui ont plus de 20 ans,
c'est ce qu'on devrait changer.
[16:31] Y en a plusieurs qui ont plus de 25 ans présentement.
[16:34] Même qu'il y en a qui ont 30 ans.
[16:35] Donc, il faut aller dans cette direction
[16:38] de gestion de l'eau potable de notre territoire.
[16:41] Mais si j'ai bien compris de près cette demande
là.
[16:44] Puis il y a eu une demande qui, il y a quelques
mois,
[16:46] ce que vous allez changer tous les compteurs
de la ville tout d'un coup,
[16:50] ça sera une période de 2 à 3 ans,
[16:53] dépendamment des fournisseurs qu'on va trouver
[16:55] pour faire le remplacement de la capacité
qu'on va avoir de procéder
[16:58] au remplacement de la collaboration avec les
citoyens qui vont
[17:01] qu'il serait plus facile de faire les remplacements,
donc plus difficiles.
[17:04] Il y a des endroits qui
[17:06] sont moins accessibles, donc vous avez des
enjeux à cet endroit là
[17:10] où les compteurs d'eau dans leur maison, On
leur fait que
[17:13] si on a des petits engins à quelques places,
c'est minime. Là.
[17:16] Mais la grande majorité vont être remplacés
[17:18] dans les 2 à 3 prochaines années.
[17:19] Et alors ?
[17:20] Est ce que procède par quartier ou
[17:24] bien c'est pas déterminé ?
[17:25] Encore là du nouveau personnel qui rentre
en place ?
[17:27] Qui vont étudier ça ?
[17:28] C'est pas simple pour ça
[17:30] et on a des changements qui se font présentement,
[17:31] donc on va leur permettre de prendre connaissance
du dossier puis d'évaluer ça.
[17:36] Je dirais qu'on sait qu'il y en a environ 500
qui sont très difficiles à lire.
[17:39] Là, les lectures extérieures ne fonctionnent
plus.
[17:42] Donc on devrait peut être mettre un peu heurté.
[17:44] On sait qu'il y en a un peu plus de 1000 qui
ont été remplacés pour différentes
[17:47] raisons et besoins qu'on pourrait simplement
aller installer des antennes.
[17:50] Donc on a ces deux volets
[17:52] qui vont être mis en priorité, mais c'est
pas déterminé et encore
[17:55] pas certain que c'est nécessaire par secteur.
[17:57] C'est nécessaire par notre capacité d'agir
avec nos listes de travail.
[18:02] Ça pourrait se faire en fonction de différentes
priorités.
[18:05] Est ce que je peux pour une autre question,
ça,
[18:07] à propos des nouvelles constructions qui vont
être faites
[18:11] dans le futur, Il y
[18:12] en a un pour remplacer des démolitions.
[18:15] Est ce que vous allez prendre en compte
[18:19] le fait que certains endroits
[18:21] ont été construits sur
[18:23] des marécages et tout ça
[18:26] puis essayer d'avoir des maisons qui n'ont
pas de sous sol ?
[18:29] Si c'est un endroit où il y a eu beaucoup
de dommages d'eau
[18:32] dans les années précédentes,
[18:36] - À ce que je sache, il y a une
[18:38] carte qui a été publié récemment
[18:40] sur les zones inondables. Et à
[18:46] Beaconsfield, aucun bâtiment est
[18:49] dans une zone inondable.
[18:50] - Bien il y a eu beaucoup
[18:52] d'inondations.
[18:53] (rires)
[18:54] - Oui mais ça, c'est pas la même
[18:55] chose. C'est pas la même chose.
[18:57] Mais non, justement, on est en
[19:00] train de regarder de quelle
[19:02] façon est-ce qu'on peut rendre
[19:06] nos facilités un peu plus
[19:11] résilientes au genre
[19:12] d'inondations qu'on a eu. Mais
[19:13] vous savez, c'est tout partout,
[19:15] ces inondations-là. Je lisais un
[19:18] article, il y a quelques jours,
[19:21] Paris a été inondé de la même
[19:23] façon.
[19:24] - Mais, ce qu'on a vu, en tout
[19:26] cas, moi ce que j'ai
[19:28] connaissance, c'est que c'est
[19:29] des endroits où le terrain est
[19:31] plus bas, de façon naturelle.
[19:34] Donc il me semble que dans les
[19:36] endroits où les rues sont plus
[19:38] basses, on devrait plus
[19:40] permettre d'avoir des sous-sol.
[19:42] - C'est une question de pouvoir
[19:44] faire le drainage nécessaire
[19:46] dans ces endroits-là. Et c'est
[19:47] ça qu'on est en train de
[19:49] regarder.
[20:04] So so I'm Tom LaBelle on Bakersfield.
[20:06] So I have two questions for you.
[20:08] First one is, could you give us an update on
the claim
[20:12] against the city of Montreal?
[20:15] You're the claim
[20:17] by the City of beacons for the city of Montreal.
[20:21] Well, no, we have no news.
[20:26] Everything has been done so far
[20:29] in terms of interrogations and, you know, preparing
for to go to court.
[20:34] But now we're waiting for a court date.
[20:37] So, until we have a court date, nothing is
going to happen.
[20:42] Okay, the second question I have for you is
[20:44] use talks about some 460 claims that people
have submitted
[20:49] for two and a half months into the six month
limit
[20:52] before somebody has to raise the bar to the
next level.
[20:55] Is there any idea thoughts on how quickly
[20:58] the city is going to come to feedback to the
people that made the claims?
[21:02] It's in the hands of the insurer.
[21:05] And, I don't know.
[21:07] I personally, I made a claim myself, my and
to my insurance company.
[21:12] I'm still waiting for them to, come and give
and he's.
[21:18] And if they give me a settlement as to why
what I claimed. No.
[21:23] But for the people that made claims against
the city, it's got to go to.
[21:25] Well, that the same thing here.
[21:27] It's in the hands of the insurer and they will
determine
[21:31] whether it's a claim, a valid claim or whether
it's not a valid claim.
[21:36] So the city's all just waiting for them right
now.
[21:39] So the city does not handle it.
[21:42] Say the insurance company. Okay. Thank you.
[21:52] Well,
[22:03] Adoption of the minutes of the City of Beaconsfield.
[22:05] Regular council meeting of September 23rd,
2024.
[22:10] I propose second in favor.
[22:41] awarding of contract tip 2024 elephant for
there's no
[22:45] clearing of the village and other areas, the
sort of for winter 2024 2025
[22:51] with when you all options of one year each
to the single and confirming bidder
[22:56] 7574 479 Canada Inc in the amount
[23:00] of 23,000 $569,069.88.
[23:07] All taxes included.
[23:09] Proposed I second in favor.
[23:53] A petition
[23:54] to sign a contract for professional services
with LMA Epert Conseil
[23:58] Council member of the winning team of the multidisciplinary
[24:02] architectural competition for the construction
of a multipurpose
[24:05] cultural center for the discipline of structural
Engineering,
[24:09] Venkat is based on compliment case for an amount
of $299,912.45.
[24:18] All tax is included for basic services and
an amount of $68,000,
[24:23] all taxes included, to be finalized for additional
services
[24:27] proposed.
[24:29] Second in favor
[24:36] signer un contrat pour des
[24:38] services professionnels avec MLC
[24:39] Associés inc., membre de
[24:41] l'équipe lauréate du concours
[24:43] d'architecture
[24:44] pluridisciplinaire pour la
[24:45] construction d'un Centre
[24:46] culturel multifonctionnel, pour
[24:47] la discipline de génie civil
[24:48] (24-SP-195)
[24:50] . Pour un montant de 160 11614
[24:53] dollars et 74 cents. Taxes
[24:56] incluses, pour les services de
[24:57] base et un montant de 26000
[24:59] dollars, taxes incluses, à part
[25:00] faire pour les services
[25:02] complémentaires.
[25:04] - Proposé.
[25:05] - Secondé.
[25:06] - En faveur.
[25:07] - À l'unanimité.
[25:11] 20.6 this authorization authorization
[25:14] Authorization to sign a
[25:16] contract for professional
[25:17] services with Bouthillette
[25:19] Parizeau et Associés, member of
[25:20] the winning team of the
[25:23] multidisciplinary architectural
[25:24] competition for the construction
[25:25] of a Multipurpose Cultural
[25:26] Centre, for the disciplines of
[25:27] electrical engineering and
[25:28] mechanical engineering contract
[25:32] (24-SP-195)
[25:33] . For an amount of $397,860.47.
[25:38] All taxes included for basic
[25:41] services. And an amount of
[25:43] $89,000, all taxes included, to
[25:45] be finalized for additional
[25:47] services.
[25:48] >> Proposed.
[25:50] >> And seconded.
[25:51] >> In favour.
[25:52] - À l'unanimité. Approbation de
[25:57] la liste des comptes à payer au
[25:58] 21 octobre 2024, et de la liste
[25:59] des paiements préautorisés pour
[26:00] la période du 12 septembre 2024
[26:02] au 22 septembre 2024 et du 24
[26:03] septembre 2024 au 9 octobre
[26:06] 2024, pour un déboursé total de
[26:10] 4 205 986,31 $.
[26:15] - Voici les montants importants,
[26:19] le montant de 4 millions. 599287
[26:25] et 21, construction Arcade pour
[26:29] le décompte progressif numéro 3,
[26:33] concernant la rénovation de la
[26:35] patinoire. 361004... 361491 et
[26:42] 18
[26:43] (---)
[26:44] pour un décompte progressif
[26:45] numéro 1 conservant la
[26:46] réhabilitation structural de
[26:47] conduite d'aqueduc. 220009 85,
[26:53] excavation Roxboro, pour des
[26:54] comptes progressifs numéro 2,
[26:56] concernant la réfection des
[26:58] chaussures... des chaussées
[26:59] souples. Et pas des chaussures.
[27:05] 143395 et 60 des 700, Lemay et
[27:08] compagnie Hank, pour la
[27:10] prestation concernant le
[27:11] concours d'architecture
[27:15] pluridisciplinaire pour centre
[27:16] culturel. 126279 29, Services
[27:22] des espaces verts pour le
[27:23] traitement contre la grille. Et
[27:26] finalement, les salaires à
[27:29] 463572 et 17 cents. Je propose.
[27:35] En faveur.
[27:36] - À l'unanimité.
[27:38] >> Approval of a $400
[27:40] contribution to Clovis
[27:42] Sanscartier for participating in
[27:43] two bicycle competitions, La
[27:44] Ronde des Vallées and Les
[27:48] Boucles de l'Oise U19 in France
[27:49] from August 10 to 11, 2024, and
[27:50] from August 17 to 18, 2024.
[27:56] - Je propose.
[27:58] - Je seconde.
[27:59] - En faveur.
[28:01] - À l'unanimité. Demande
[28:04] d'autorisation de corriger les
[28:05] nuisances aux 132-146, Larch et
[28:07] de facturer le coût des travaux
[28:08] au propriétaire, en vertu du
[28:10] Règlement BEAC-033.
[28:18] - À l'unanimité.
[28:21] >> Authorization to correct
[28:23] nuisances at 548, 550 and 552
[28:25] Beaconsfield and to bill the
[28:26] costs to the owner, in virtue of
[28:28] By-law BEAC-033.
[28:32] >> Proposed.
[28:33] >> I second.
[28:34] >> In favour.
[28:35] - À l'unanimité. Demande de
[28:40] révision de la décision du
[28:41] Comité de démolition du 21 août
[28:42] 2024 concernant le bâtiment
[28:43] situé au 130, Jasper. La
[28:46] recommandation serait de
[28:47] maintenir la décision du comité
[28:48] de démolition.
[28:51] >> Proposed.
[28:52] >> Seconded.
[28:53] - En faveur d'accepter la
[28:55] décision du comité de
[28:57] dévolution. Démolitions, pardon.
[29:02] Contre?
[29:09] >> Motion carried.
[29:10] - La démolition est acceptée?
[29:12] - La démolition est maintenue,
[29:14] oui.
[29:19] >> Request for minor exemption
[29:21] of -- located at 135 Evergreen
[29:23] our recommendation is to
[29:24] approve.
[29:27] >> Proposed.
[29:28] >> Second.
[29:29] >> In favour.
[29:33] - À l'unanimité. Demande
[29:37] d'approbation du Plan
[29:38] d'implantation et d'intégration
[29:39] architecturale
[29:40] (PIIA)
[29:41] relatif à la demande d'un permis
[29:42] de construction pour un nouveau
[29:43] bâtiment principal situé au 114,
[29:46] Brentwood. La recommandation
[29:49] était refusé.
[29:50] - Opposé.
[29:51] - Secondé.
[29:52] - En faveur.
[29:54] - Pas à l'unanimité.
[29:58] >> Request for the approval of
[29:59] the Site Planning and
[30:00] Architectural Integration
[30:01] Programme
[30:02] (SPAIP)
[30:03] relating to a building permit
[30:04] application for a new main
[30:05] building located at 372
[30:06] Chantilly. The recommendation is
[30:07] to approve according to the
[30:10] option brick.
[30:11] >> Proposed.
[30:12] >> I second.
[30:13] >> In favour.
[30:16] - À l'unanimité. Demande
[30:18] d'approbation du Plan
[30:19] d'implantation et d'intégration
[30:20] architecturale
[30:21] (PIIA)
[30:22] relatif à la demande d'un permis
[30:23] de construction pour
[30:24] l'agrandissement du bâtiment
[30:25] principal situé au 69, Circle.
[30:27] La recommandation est
[30:28] d'approuver selon les plans
[30:30] déposés reliés octobre 2024.
[30:32] - Opposé.
[30:33] - J'appuie.
[30:34] - En faveur.
[30:36] - À l'unanimité.
[30:40] >> Request for the approval of
[30:41] the Site Planning and
[30:42] Architectural Integration
[30:43] Programme
[30:44] (SPAIP)
[30:45] relating to a building permit
[30:46] application for the extension of
[30:47] the main building located at 116
[30:48] Angell. The recommendation is to
[30:49] refuse.
[30:50] >> Proposed.
[30:51] >> Seconded.
[30:52] >> In favour.
[30:55] - À l'unanimité. Demande
[30:58] d'approbation du Plan
[30:59] d'implantation et d'intégration
[31:00] architecturale
[31:01] (PIIA)
[31:02] relatif à la demande d'un permis
[31:03] de construction pour
[31:04] l'agrandissement du bâtiment
[31:05] principal situé au 233,
[31:06] Cadillac. Le recommandation est
[31:07] de refuser.
[31:08] - Proposé.
[31:09] - J'appuie.
[31:11] - En faveur.
[31:13] - À l'unanimité.
[31:16] >> Request for the approval of
[31:17] the Site Planning and
[31:18] Architectural Integration
[31:19] Programme
[31:20] (SPAIP)
[31:21] relating to a building permit
[31:22] application for the modification
[31:23] of the facade of a main building
[31:24] located at 113 Brentwoood. The
[31:26] recommendation is to approve.
[31:28] >> Proposed.
[31:29] >> Seconded.
[31:31] - En faveur.
[31:33] >>
[31:34] - À l'unanimité. Demande
[31:36] d'approbation du Plan
[31:37] d'implantation et d'intégration
[31:38] architecturale
[31:39] (PIIA)
[31:40] relatif à la demande d'un permis
[31:41] de construction pour la
[31:42] modification de la façade du
[31:43] bâtiment principal situé au 409,
[31:44] Bishop. La recommandation est
[31:45] d'approuver selon le plan déposé
[31:47] le 10 octobre 2024.
[31:50] - Proposé.
[31:52] >> Second.
[31:56] - En faveur.
[31:57] - À l'unanimité.
[31:58] >> Acceptance of an amount of
[32:01] $17,074.20 for park fees to be
[32:05] paid by the owner of lot 1 969
[32:09] 758
[32:10] (372 Chantilly)
[32:11] to the City, according to By-law
[32:13] BEAC-128 concerning
[32:14] contributions for the
[32:15] establishment, maintenance and
[32:16] improvement of parks,
[32:17] playgrounds and natural areas on
[32:18] the City of Beaconsfield's
[32:21] territory.
[32:24] >> Proposed.
[32:26] >> Seconded.
[32:27] >> In favour.
[32:29] - À l'unanimité.
[32:37] Demande de décision concernant
[32:38] la contribution pour fins
[32:39] d'établissement, de maintien et
[32:40] d'amélioration de parcs,
[32:41] terrains de jeux et espaces
[32:42] naturels pour le 516, Lakeshore.
[32:44] >> I'm proposing that we accept
[32:46] the money in an approximate
[32:47] amount of $170,000.
[32:51] >> I second.
[32:53] >> In favour. Against? I will
[33:00] need to hold on this one, so I
[33:02] will vote to accept the money.
[33:07] >> Okay, thank you.
[33:18] >> Nomination in view of
[33:19] permanency as Directeur, Travaux
[33:20] publics to position 5000.
[33:23] - Je propose.
[33:24] - J'appuie.
[33:25] - En faveur.
[33:28] - À l'unanimité. Procès-verbal
[33:31] de la réunion du Comité
[33:32] consultatif d'urbanisme du 2
[33:33] octobre 2024.
[33:40] >> No new comments from when we
[33:43] cover the projects, so there's
[33:44] nothing additional.
[33:45] >> Okay, so you propose?
[33:46] >> I propose those minutes.
[33:49] >> I second them.
[33:52] - En faveur.
[33:54] - À l'unanimité.
[33:57] >> Minutes of the launch meeting
[33:59] of the Age-Friendly Municipality
[34:00] (AFM)
[34:01] Steering Committee of September
[34:02] 23, 2024.
[34:06] >> Madam Chairman, I think you
[34:08] have a few words to say.
[34:09] >> I do. Thank you, Mister
[34:11] Mayor. On September 23rd, we had
[34:13] our first Age-Friendly
[34:14] Municipality Steering Committee
[34:17] meeting. The committee is
[34:19] comprised of myself as chair and
[34:21] Councillor Moss as co-chair,
[34:22] along with a number of citizens
[34:24] of Beaconsfield and members of
[34:26] different organizations that
[34:28] help our seniors. We also have
[34:30] three members from the city
[34:32] administration. I would like to
[34:33] thank all the members of the
[34:35] committee for your time and
[34:37] helping create the new we matter
[34:40] action plan for the City. The
[34:41] foreman of the new action plan
[34:43] will include extensive
[34:45] discussions with various focus
[34:47] groups, and will include public
[34:48] survey that would lead us to
[34:50] adopting a municipal policy and
[34:52] action plan that will determine
[34:54] realistic and feasible actions
[34:55] by the City. This plan will be
[34:58] presented to Council for
[34:59] approval in the summer of 2025.
[35:02] After council approves it, there
[35:04] will be a monitoring committee
[35:06] that will be formed and will
[35:08] hold biannual meetings to
[35:10] monitor the action plan. We are
[35:12] on our way and we are very
[35:13] excited, Mister Mayor, thank
[35:15] you.
[35:16] >> So, you propose?
[35:17] >> I propose. Proposed.
[35:19] >> I second.
[35:21] >> All in favour.
[35:27] - Procès-verbal de la réunion du
[35:28] Comité consultatif de
[35:29] l'environnement du 10 septembre
[35:30] 2024.
[35:32] >> Anything, Mister Chairman, to
[35:34] say?
[35:35] - Oui, merci, Monsieur le Maire.
[35:38] >> So certainly, the
[35:40] environmental committee is
[35:41] always considering the
[35:44] environment, just monitoring,
[35:45] you know, what's happening.
[35:48] Mostly I guess around the world.
[35:50] But we are seeing how the
[35:53] environment is certainly been
[35:54] greatly affected with global
[35:57] crises, global warming, the
[35:59] climate crisis, and how -- to
[36:01] affect us here in Beaconsfield
[36:04] as of April night with all the
[36:06] flooding we've had so very
[36:08] unfortunate and I did want to
[36:09] mention that the pamphlet that
[36:11] the special contact magazine
[36:13] that the City had printed for
[36:16] distribution for all of our
[36:17] residents, I think, is very
[36:20] interesting magazine. It talks a
[36:22] little bit about the flooding
[36:24] situation but also provides some
[36:27] ideas and suggestions on how we
[36:29] can maybe try to minimize and
[36:31] protect our homes. Alors ça,
[36:34] c'est une revue qui a eu un très
[36:36] bon impact avec nos lecteurs. Si
[36:39] vous avez des questions pour
[36:41] essayer de minimiser les
[36:44] (inaudible)
[36:45] . On sait certainement que on va
[36:48] avoir d'autres de plus.
[36:50] The environment, you know, the
[36:52] climate changes are here to
[36:53] stay, in my belief. And I think
[36:55] we need to protect ourselves and
[36:57] the only way we can do that is
[36:59] to actually look at little ways,
[37:03] I guess you could call them in
[37:04] baseball, like singles hits of,
[37:06] you know, looking at areas where
[37:07] we can just do our little part
[37:09] to reduce carbon, reduce methane
[37:12] gas, which is contributing to,
[37:15] you know, global warming. And at
[37:17] the same time, just to, you
[37:21] know, consider other little
[37:22] things that certainly the
[37:23] committee is always concerned
[37:25] about and mentioning to the
[37:27] public. And to Council, things
[37:29] like water consumption is really
[37:31] important. We take water for
[37:33] granted. I think in Canada.
[37:36] Sunday, it'll be a tremendous
[37:38] resource, you know? For sale,
[37:40] potentially, to the world, much
[37:41] like oil is. At the same time,
[37:44] we always talk about the
[37:45] importance of trees, the canopy
[37:47] to Beaconsfield and how it
[37:50] provides shade in the
[37:52] summertime. Now I'm thinking
[37:53] having read an article several
[37:55] months ago that suggests that
[37:59] big, mature trees actually
[38:01] absorb 40 to 50,000 gallons of
[38:03] water per year, per tree. To
[38:05] work that out, it's almost the
[38:07] equivalent of what let's say
[38:09] about 50% of the average
[38:13] consumer's water consumption is.
[38:17] So, it's significant what a tree
[38:18] can do in terms of just
[38:20] absorbing the water from our
[38:22] lawns and our properties, and of
[38:24] course, we are hearing some
[38:25] flooding is being caused because
[38:27] of underground water streams,
[38:29] but at the same time, I think
[38:31] trees can probably be of help in
[38:33] certain areas in terms of
[38:36] absorbing some of that
[38:37] groundwater. The other thing
[38:38] we've talked about and focus on
[38:41] at the last meeting is to create
[38:43] or to have, start looking at
[38:46] plants that we could suggest to
[38:48] either the city or to the public
[38:50] to be able to plant flowers and
[38:54] in our gardens for bees and
[38:57] butterflies. They're important
[38:59] pollinators, they're on an
[39:01] endangered species. So, you
[39:04] know, I'm happy to hear that the
[39:06] City is actually going to plant
[39:09] some, you know, perennial
[39:12] milkweed plants here in the
[39:15] city. I think there's one park
[39:17] that the City has elected and
[39:19] they've already -- at least this
[39:22] past fall, so there's 30
[39:25] milkweed. It's going to be the
[39:26] little green space that's on St.
[39:28] Charles and Creswell, so I think
[39:30] that's going to be an important
[39:31] start to try to help pollinators
[39:36] that are extremely important to
[39:37] our society. And the other thing
[39:40] is that I just like to mention
[39:42] as well that in this article,
[39:45] the magazine, there's a piece on
[39:47] wood burning. The legislation
[39:52] that was put into force last
[39:57] year, which is basically that,
[39:58] you know, our residents should
[40:01] consider when they're burning
[40:02] wood and especially to
[40:04] understand that the new
[40:05] legislation, for those
[40:07] homeowners who do not use any P
[40:09] A 2.5, to burn wood, that there
[40:13] is a limit of to burn wood,
[40:17] which is six hours for every 48
[40:19] hour period. And of course, we
[40:21] all know that wood smoke is
[40:23] certainly unhealthy to breathe.
[40:26] And so, certainly I would hope
[40:28] that would burners would take
[40:29] that into consideration, make
[40:31] sure that they have an EPA 2.5
[40:33] and to be considerate of others
[40:36] when they are burning. So, I
[40:38] propose the minutes, Mister
[40:39] Mayor. Thank you.
[40:43] >> Who is seconding?
[40:48] >> I will, I'm sorry. Second.
[40:51] >> In favour.
[40:54] - Unanimité.
[40:58] >> Deposit of the minutes of the
[40:59] Demolition Committee meeting of
[41:00] August 21, 2024.
[41:01] - Des commentaires, Monsieur le
[41:03] Président?
[41:04] - Merci, Monsieur le Maire.
[41:05] >> Essentially on that date, we
[41:07] reviewed to requests for
[41:10] demolition's. Both on evergreen
[41:12] and Jasper were awarded and as
[41:14] we've seen today earlier, one of
[41:17] those two demolitions was
[41:18] subject to a review process and
[41:20] a decision was maintained. So
[41:22] there we go.
[41:28] - Proposé. C'est un dépôt?
[41:31] - Nomination d'un membre du
[41:33] comité consultatif de culture et
[41:35] loisirs.
[41:38] - Oui, je propose.
[41:42] - Qu'est-ce que vous avez des
[41:43] commentaires sur la personne?
[41:44] - La personne? Oui. On a le
[41:46] plaisir d'avoir monsieur Simon
[41:48] Bélanger ici avec nous au
[41:51] conseil. Monsieur Bélanger est
[41:54] nouvellement à Beaconsfield avec
[41:57] ces deux jeunes enfants. Il
[41:59] s'est proposé comme candidat et
[42:01] je suis vraiment ravi que tu te
[42:05] joignent à notre équipe. Je
[42:08] propose.
[42:09] - Propose? Qui seconde?
[42:10] - Ça me semble être une bonne
[42:12] personne alors j'appuie.
[42:13] (rires)
[42:14] (rires)
[42:15] - Merci. En faveur. Unanime.
[42:20] (rires)
[42:21] (rires)
[42:22] -
[42:23] Renouvellement de membres du
[42:24] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
[42:25] >> Nomination of a member of to
[42:26] the Culture and Leisure Advisory
[42:27] Committee
[42:28] (2)
[42:29] .
[42:30] >> Yeah, I think this is the
[42:31] second person that we have.
[42:32] >> It is, yeah, we are busy. So,
[42:33] it's Christine Ryan and just
[42:35] she's not here tonight but I
[42:36] just wanted to take a second to
[42:37] say that the culture and leisure
[42:40] advisory committee is one of six
[42:41] committees and like my fellow
[42:45] councillor, Councillor
[42:47] Alexopoulos said, we can't do it
[42:48] without a residence. So, this
[42:51] committee advises Beaconsfield
[42:52] council on goals, strategies,
[42:55] and new initiatives related to
[42:57] culture and leisure services,
[42:59] and community events. So, all of
[43:02] what we do and up in the
[43:04] contact. So, I propose.
[43:06] >> I second.
[43:07] >> In favour.
[43:16] >> Mister Chairman, would you
[43:18] have any comments?
[43:19] >> So, I'm proposing a renewal
[43:20] of a member pretty active on the
[43:22] committee tonight, lots of --
[43:24] so, I'm delighted to renew the
[43:26] mandate for Mr. Graham mag.
[43:29] Graham has been on the committee
[43:30] for a number of years and we are
[43:32] delighted to have him back. He's
[43:35] definitely been a dedicated
[43:38] participant and very, very
[43:40] active in the meetings. Very
[43:41] communicative and definitely
[43:43] brings forth a lot of his ideas
[43:45] on the P.A.C. Committee. And
[43:47] again, as a little bit of the
[43:49] reminder, the pack committee is
[43:51] actually the committee that
[43:53] really reviews all the building
[43:55] projects, typically mostly homes
[43:57] and so on, that are submitted to
[43:58] the City. So, he's one of six
[44:01] residents -- Beaconsfield a help
[44:02] to decide and make
[44:03] recommendations to Council about
[44:05] these new properties. So, we're
[44:06] delighted to have Graham back on
[44:08] the committee and look forward
[44:10] to seeing him again at the next
[44:12] meeting.
[44:13] >> Do you propose?
[44:14] >> So, we propose Graham mag to
[44:17] renew his membership on --
[44:20] >> I happily second.
[44:24] >> Very good. In favour.
[44:27] - À l'unanimité.
[44:30] >> Adoption of the City of
[44:31] Beaconsfield's calendar of
[44:34] regular Council meetings for
[44:35] 2025.
[44:36] - Je propose.
[44:37] >> Second.
[44:39] - En faveur.
[44:41] - À l'unanimité.
[44:47] Résolution désignant le 19
[44:48] novembre la Journée de
[44:49] sensibilisation au cancer de la
[44:50] prostate.
[44:51] >> Proposed.
[44:52] >> And seconded.
[44:53] >> In favour.
[44:58] - À l'unanimité.
[45:01] >> Approval of the inventory
[45:02] list of buildings built before
[45:03] 1940 on the territory of the
[45:04] City of Beaconsfield and
[45:06] recommendation of adoption to
[45:07] the Montreal Agglomeration
[45:09] Council.
[45:12] >> Proposed.
[45:13] >> Seconded.
[45:15] >> In favour.
[45:17] - À l'unanimité. Autorisation
[45:20] pour la fermeture de rues pour
[45:21] le Train des Fêtes Canadien
[45:22] Pacifique Kansas City le 22
[45:23] novembre 2024 de 19 h à 21 h 30.
[45:28] - Proposé.
[45:29] - J'appuie.
[45:30] - En faveur.
[45:31] (rires)
[45:37] >> I think I remember for the
[45:41] first year I was mayor, we had
[45:44] the train here in Beaconsfield
[45:46] and so, it's been a long time
[45:48] since we've had the train. It's
[45:50] an event that a lot of kids come
[45:55] with their parents and so look
[45:57] at the train. It's really all
[46:01] decorated, the train. Normally
[46:04] there is a show that comes along
[46:07] with the train that lasts, I
[46:10] don't know, 15, 20 minutes. So,
[46:13] it's a very nice event and I
[46:15] would recommend to anyone that
[46:18] is listening to attend the train
[46:23] event on November 22nd.
[46:29] - À l'unanimité.
[46:33] - Tout le monde était d'accord.
[46:34] >> Resolution in support of the
[46:35] campaign: UNiTE to End Violence
[46:36] against Women and Girls.
[46:37] (rires)
[46:39] >> I strongly propose.
[46:41] >> I second, rather, sorry.
[46:44] >> Invite. - Demande à la Ville
[46:50] de Montréal pour le maintien de
[46:51] la fluoration de l'eau potable.
[46:52] - Oui, je vais lire la
[46:56] résolution sur laquelle nous
[46:57] allons voter ce soir. C'est
[46:59] suite à une demande un peu
[47:03] surprenante qu'on a eu pour les
[47:07] villes qui ont la fluoration
[47:11] présentement. Kirk longue, des
[47:17] deux filles, c'est Beaconsfield,
[47:19] Pointe-Claire et Dorval et... la
[47:20] résolution que nous allons
[47:21] proposer ce soir, et qui sera
[47:22] votée par le Conseil demande à
[47:23] la Ville de Montréal pour le
[47:24] maintien de la fluoration de
[47:25] l'eau potable. And part of
[47:26] Dollard-des-Ormeaux as well. And
[47:27] surprisingly, the City of
[47:30] Montréal came to, we made a
[47:35] presentation to the --
[47:38] municipality saying that for all
[47:40] kinds of reasons that they
[47:41] wanted to abandon the
[47:44] fluoridation of water in the
[47:47] cities where we have it at the
[47:50] same time. And it's, as you can
[47:55] see in the resolution, it's one
[47:58] thing that we have very little
[48:00] power on because at the
[48:04] agglomeration, Montréal has 87%
[48:07] of the votes and we have 13%.
[48:09] So, they can do whatever they
[48:11] want. So,
[48:27] >> Whereas the drinking water
[48:29] consumed of the population of
[48:30] Beaconsfield is produced at the
[48:32] Pointe-Claire filtration plant,
[48:34] whereas scientific studies on
[48:35] the public health benefits of
[48:36] fluoridation are in drinking
[48:37] water are widely recognized,
[48:38] whereas the City of Montréal's
[48:39] decision makers and elected
[48:40] officials have no territorial
[48:41] representation within the city
[48:42] of Beaconsfield and the towns
[48:43] served by the Pointe-Claire and
[48:44] Dorval plants, whereas the City
[48:45] of Montréal plans, without any
[48:46] prior public consultation, to
[48:47] and water fluoridation by the
[48:48] end of 2024, this decision was
[48:49] taken unilaterally without
[48:50] consulting the effected
[48:51] reconstituted cities. Attendu
[48:52] que l'eau potable produite par
[48:53] les usines de filtration de
[48:54] Pointe-Claire et Dorval est
[48:55] fluorée depuis de nombreuses
[48:56] décennies.
[48:57] Attendu que la fluoration de
[48:58] l'eau potable est une mesure
[48:59] recommandée par la direction
[49:00] générale de la santé publique
[49:02] car elle contribue à la santé
[49:05] bucco-dentaire de la population
[49:07] et réduit les inégalités
[49:09] sociales en matière de santé.
[49:30] Attendu que les décideurs de la
[49:31] Ville de Montréal et ses élus
[49:33] n'ont aucune représentation
[49:36] citoyenne par voie électorale à
[49:38] la Ville de Beaconsfield.
[50:02] Attendu que la décision de
[50:04] cesser la flot ration de l'eau
[50:06] potable sont en consultation
[50:09] citoyenne, ni consultation
[50:10] auprès des élus de la Ville de
[50:12] Beaconsfield, est un constat
[50:15] d'échec démocratique et du
[50:17] fonctionnement des instances
[50:19] municipales et un manque de
[50:21] respect envers la population.
[50:26] Whereas the city of Beaconsfield
[50:27] has never expressed a desire to
[50:29] stop fluoridating its drinking
[50:32] water
[50:36] Il est proposé d'exprimer le
[50:40] soutien au maintien de la
[50:42] fluoration de l'eau potable et
[50:43] de demander à la Ville de
[50:44] Montréal de réviser sa décision
[50:47] de cesser la fluoration de l'eau
[50:52] potable. La copie de cette
[50:53] résolution-là sera envoyée à
[50:55] tous les gens
[51:01] de cette décision-là. Est-ce
[51:04] qu'on a quelqu'un qui propose?
[51:06] - Je propose fortement.
[51:08] - Je seconde.
[51:10] - En faveur? Contre? Est-ce
[51:16] qu'il y a des commentaires,
[51:22] de... que les conseillers
[51:23] veulent faire?
[51:24] (inaudible)
[51:27] - Le micro.
[51:30] - Pardon?
[51:32] - Je vais répéter parce que mon
[51:34] micro était pas allumée alors
[51:36] qu'il y a des conseillers et
[51:37] conseillères qui veulent
[51:38] s'exprimer pour les motifs pour
[51:39] lesquels ils sont en soutien, je
[51:41] suis prêt à les écouter je
[51:42] pourrais faire mes commentaires
[51:43] par la suite.
[51:46] - Je présume que monsieur
[51:49] Mercury aimerait... monsieur
[51:50] Mercuri, pardon. >> I take a
[51:51] little exception on how that was
[51:52] very. I think the mayor asked us
[51:57] if we wanted to talk but I'm
[51:58] glad you are willing to listen.
[52:00] It's kind.
[52:04] >> We had no prior debate, so
[52:06] it's good to -- those in favour,
[52:10] those against, if you have
[52:11] comments, go ahead. Otherwise,
[52:12] I'm going to go.
[52:13] >> Go ahead.
[52:14] >> Do you have comments?
[52:15] >> Well, you voted against,
[52:17] Martin.
[52:18] >> You voted in favour, Robert.
[52:19] >> You want me to go first, is
[52:20] that it? Okay.
[52:22] >> That's usually how it goes.
[52:23] >> Okay, so Martin and I have
[52:25] spoken in advance one-on-one. We
[52:27] didn't have a chance to debate
[52:28] this in any formal setting. This
[52:36] is a topic that comes up every
[52:38] so often. Is it safe or not put
[52:43] fluoride in water? None of us
[52:49] here are water experts. None of
[52:51] us are scientists, although I am
[52:53] actually, believe it or not, a
[52:55] degree in biochemistry. But
[52:59] there are two things that play.
[53:01] There is the safety of what's
[53:04] being done that the officials
[53:08] from Montréal are claiming as
[53:10] potentially unsafe, and then
[53:12] there is the process by which
[53:14] this is being done. That is, a
[53:18] separate topic, right? Je
[53:22] m'excuse si je m'exprime en
[53:24] anglais, je peux le faire en
[53:25] français, les deux, comme le
[53:26] monde préfère. Du côté disons,
[53:31] sciences, du côté sécuritaire,
[53:33] c'est pas ma décision. On
[53:35] s'entend. C'est pas à moi de
[53:37] décider. If fluoride in the
[53:39] water is safe. Je me fie à ce
[53:42] que les experts nous disent. I
[53:46] looked it up. Our minister of
[53:48] health, Health Canada, -- so,
[53:57] public health of Québec. They
[53:59] all have positions that they're
[54:02] not concerned about the safety
[54:06] profile, they recognize
[54:09] efficacy, so keeping your teeth
[54:11] healthy, right? That's why. And
[54:15] their position is that putting
[54:17] fluoride in water is an
[54:20] inexpensive means of protecting
[54:23] the populations dental health,
[54:27] whether you're young, old, rich,
[54:31] poor. Je peux prendre un verre
[54:33] d'eau. C'est légal pour tout le
[54:35] monde. Là-dessus, c'est pas à
[54:36] moi les poser des questions, on
[54:38] s'entend. If they were to change
[54:41] their position. I would probably
[54:43] change my position.
[54:49] The other question is the
[54:51] process. Montréal controls the
[54:54] water plants. And as the Mayor
[54:57] has expressed, when it comes
[54:58] time to vote a,
[55:12] how many times do we talk about
[55:13] that at Council meetings? On est
[55:14] contre quelle affaire... et des
[55:16] fois, tu dis, écoutez, peut-être
[55:17] qu'il a raison. Ultimately, they
[55:18] decide. But here is an instance
[55:21] where it's the West Island
[55:23] population that's affected. Good
[55:26] or bad. Why are we not coming to
[55:31] the Beaconsfield's, the
[55:33] Pointe-Claire's, the Kirkland's,
[55:35] the Bader phase of this world to
[55:38] decide on behalf of our
[55:39] population?
[55:47] Au-delà de ça ça arrive,? Than
[55:50] politics. Maybe it's too
[55:51] expensive to do the right thing.
[55:56] Ça coûte trop cher. Des fois, on
[55:57] a des bonnes idées mais on n'a
[55:58] pas l'argent pour. C'est
[55:59] correct, c'est la réalité. Mais
[56:05] l'infrastructure déjà. In our
[56:06] water plants -- it's already
[56:07] there. So, it's all we have to
[56:08] go buy 1 million dollars worth
[56:09] of equipment. C'est pas ça. The
[56:13] cost to put fluoride in water,
[56:15] it's built into the budget and
[56:18] even to their comments from
[56:20] Montréal, that's not really the
[56:22] big expense. I take a little bit
[56:25] of a tongue-in-cheek approach
[56:26] when they say, well, C'est
[56:30] dangereux pour les employés de
[56:31] la Ville de gérer ces produits
[56:33] chimiques là. Hey, let's welcome
[56:37] down, here these are
[56:39] professionals. I worked in
[56:41] chemistry labs with much more
[56:42] dangerous chemicals than
[56:44] fluoride. I trust that they have
[56:45] safety measures in place and I'm
[56:48] unaware of workplace accidents
[56:52] happening at our water
[56:54] filtration plants. So I take a
[56:56] little exception at that. I also
[56:59] take a little exception, the
[57:04] borough mayor who is responsible
[57:05] for water, she's quoted in the
[57:08] Gazette as saying, you know, we
[57:10] don't want to use water as a
[57:12] vehicle for mitigation. We don't
[57:15] want to use water as a vehicle
[57:17] for pharmaceuticals. Okay,
[57:19] that's fine. Now the water that
[57:25] comes out of the lake is
[57:27] filtered, it goes through an eye
[57:30] on is a shun process to kill
[57:32] bacteria. I may or may not be
[57:34] treated with UV, chloride,
[57:36] sometimes iodine, there's other
[57:37] things to do to treat the water.
[57:39] But we're taking exception at
[57:43] fluoride. Anybody is welcome to
[57:44] drink the water straight out of
[57:46] the lake if you wish, I prefer
[57:48] my water to be treated when I
[57:52] J'ouvre le robinet chez moi. And
[57:56] there's also a notion of is this
[57:59] health measure paternalistic? Is
[58:02] this oppressive? Well, is it? I
[58:05] don't know. That's the pure
[58:08] nature of public health.
[58:10] Quelqu'un va prendre une
[58:11] décision pour le bien-être de
[58:12] tout le monde c'est ça l'idée!
[58:18] Friends, that's why we wear
[58:19] seatbelts in our car. It's not
[58:20] really an option, right?
[58:22] Somebody said put on your
[58:24] seatbelt because it's safer
[58:25] there is vitamin D in milk
[58:26] added. Si tu veux, tu veux pas.
[58:33] Why? We live in Canada, guys, we
[58:36] don't get enough sunlight. They
[58:38] put vitamin D so we uptake
[58:40] calcium better. These are all
[58:42] decisions made by a group of
[58:44] people who study this and say
[58:45] this is for public health, and
[58:47] we are all going to have,
[58:49] ideally, healthier lives and
[58:50] live longer. So when I read this
[58:53] in the news I'm saying, well,
[58:55] what's going on here? Why is
[58:58] this decision coming from
[58:59] Montréal to remove something
[59:01] that we already have, they're
[59:03] fine with it. Qui existent déjà,
[59:04] déjà payé pour, il n'est pas
[59:07] obligé, et ça affecte pas
[59:08] Montréal. Ça nous affecte et on
[59:09] n'est pas consulté. Et tous les
[59:12] experts à qui on se fie dix
[59:17] merci beaucoup.
[59:18] So I'm really stuck with why
[59:19] this would come up, and it would
[59:21] be great to have a clear answer
[59:22] for Montréal, Mister Mayor, as
[59:24] to why this coming up.
[59:25] >> Well, I will certainly
[59:27] express our resolution at the
[59:30] next meeting, agglomeration
[59:33] meeting. It has not been tabled
[59:36] yet on the agenda of the
[59:38] agglomeration meeting, but I
[59:42] certainly will express it that
[59:45] so that whenever it does come,
[59:47] up they certainly will be aware
[59:49] of are --
[59:51] >> And Mister Mayor --
[59:53] >> And we are going to send the
[59:58] resolution to Dr. Boileau, the
[1:00:02] National Public Health director,
[1:00:04] Dr. Mylène Drouin, public health
[1:00:07] director for the Montréal
[1:00:10] region, and Christian Dubé,
[1:00:12] minister of health but, so the
[1:00:16] people that are responsible for
[1:00:17] health and Québec certainly will
[1:00:19] be very much aware of our
[1:00:21] position.
[1:00:22] >> Thank you, and Mister Mayor,
[1:00:23] thank you very much. And I guess
[1:00:25] one more request, why are they
[1:00:29] not affording us -- with their
[1:00:33] help, with their collaboration,
[1:00:34] the time, but if a consultation
[1:00:38] is needed with the population,
[1:00:40] why is a not affording us the
[1:00:41] time to do that?
[1:00:42] >> That's a good question. I
[1:00:45] can't answer that. Hopefully,
[1:00:47] they can give us an answer, but
[1:00:51] it's -- I believe it's the
[1:00:55] borough mayor, the borough mayor
[1:00:57] from Lachine is responsible for
[1:01:01] water, and I think it's for her,
[1:01:05] it's a political reason to do
[1:01:08] this, so I -- but this is not a
[1:01:12] political situation, it's not a
[1:01:15] political region, it's a health
[1:01:17] reason. It should be considered
[1:01:18] a health reason. So --
[1:01:21] >> Thank you for the time. But
[1:01:25] >> I think there is either
[1:01:26] somebody else who voted in
[1:01:28] favour, that's but -- wants to
[1:01:31] comment.
[1:01:32] >> Certainly. Thank you, Mister
[1:01:33] Mayor. I think, first of all,
[1:01:35] I'm not a dentist but at the
[1:01:37] same time I think I am a parent,
[1:01:40] and I think I've done a lot of
[1:01:42] research on fluoride. It's
[1:01:44] something we've heard from the
[1:01:45] odd person overtime, why do we
[1:01:48] fluoridating Beaconsfield. I
[1:01:50] think that everything can one
[1:01:51] can read on fluoridation's it is
[1:01:53] safe, healthy, it's not
[1:01:58] dangerous to our health. I've
[1:01:59] been drinking city water for a
[1:02:01] long, long time. So I just don't
[1:02:04] understand where they're coming
[1:02:05] from. At least in terms of why
[1:02:08] they're taking something that's
[1:02:11] been so important to our
[1:02:13] children's lives and oral health
[1:02:17] and even to our own in terms of
[1:02:20] ensuring that we don't have
[1:02:22] cavities. And the fact of the
[1:02:23] matter is is if we look at
[1:02:25] research, you know, either the
[1:02:29] Québec or Canada dentists
[1:02:32] association, as well as the
[1:02:33] United States dental
[1:02:35] association, you know,
[1:02:36] definitely recommend fluoride in
[1:02:38] water. There is just nothing
[1:02:40] scientific that up until now
[1:02:42] that indicates fluoride is -- in
[1:02:46] the water is bad. In fact, I
[1:02:47] think there's only about --
[1:02:49] whatever the number is, but it's
[1:02:52] like but 0.17 or 1.7 parts per
[1:02:56] million or whatever it is. So
[1:02:58] that is a safe number. I think
[1:03:00] the biggest thing as well is
[1:03:02] when we look at the children of
[1:03:06] Beaconsfield who've lived here
[1:03:07] for the last 40, 50 years that
[1:03:10] the water has been fluoridated,
[1:03:12] most children grow up without a
[1:03:14] cavity. I think we were --
[1:03:17] talking about our kids. Anyways
[1:03:19] and still been parents -- and
[1:03:22] now parents, and have not a
[1:03:25] caveat, I think that's the
[1:03:28] important's of fluoride in the
[1:03:29] water of children who are in
[1:03:30] their development years. At the
[1:03:32] same time, there is an
[1:03:34] interesting study that I read
[1:03:36] just in the past few weeks at
[1:03:38] the city of Calgary but it is
[1:03:43] returning to add I -- adding
[1:03:45] fluoride to the water. They
[1:03:47] originally brought it into the
[1:03:48] cities in let's say, the 1990s
[1:03:50] or the EVs, and 2011 they
[1:03:52] decided to discontinue fluoride.
[1:03:55] When other cities, bigger cities
[1:03:56] in Alberta continue to
[1:03:58] fluoridated water. Now, as of
[1:04:02] 2022 and I think at this point
[1:04:04] in time now, because of the
[1:04:07] decision to return to water, I
[1:04:10] think those water plants have
[1:04:11] now been completed and should be
[1:04:14] up and running, and if not later
[1:04:16] this year, and early next year.
[1:04:19] So Calgary is returning to
[1:04:20] fluoridated water. And within
[1:04:22] that article that I read, there
[1:04:24] is actually a very interesting
[1:04:27] research report that came from
[1:04:28] the University of Alberta, where
[1:04:30] they had research -- because
[1:04:31] this was a perfect test, you
[1:04:33] know, to be able to look at
[1:04:36] residents in several major
[1:04:37] cities of Alberta compared to
[1:04:39] Alberta, or Calgary, and what
[1:04:41] were the effects on the children
[1:04:42] during that tenure period that
[1:04:45] Calgary has been not
[1:04:47] fluoridating it's water. And
[1:04:49] what they found was really very
[1:04:52] tragic. Many children are
[1:04:53] getting cavities. That's
[1:04:56] painful. They have to have
[1:04:57] injections if -- for cavities.
[1:04:59] In some cases, it's bad enough,
[1:05:01] you have rotten teeth, and at
[1:05:02] that, point teeth have to be
[1:05:04] pulled. So it's very unfair to
[1:05:07] -- our cause them a lot of pain
[1:05:09] and I think Calgary is certainly
[1:05:11] doing the right thing to return
[1:05:13] to fluoridation. And I think of
[1:05:16] anything, it's very unfair for
[1:05:17] what Montréal is doing here. I
[1:05:19] think from what I've read, they
[1:05:20] were saying they had a choice in
[1:05:22] Montréal, which was to either
[1:05:25] cancel fluoridation in the West
[1:05:27] Island or Pointe-Claire Dorval
[1:05:29] plants, or add it to the rest of
[1:05:32] Montréal. And I really think
[1:05:34] that I don't understand why
[1:05:35] they're not looking at the care
[1:05:37] of their own residents, because
[1:05:40] fluoridation is important for
[1:05:43] children. And basically, you
[1:05:46] know, invite them to take a look
[1:05:48] at kids mouth, come to the West
[1:05:51] Island, look at where we've got
[1:05:53] fluoridated water and have them
[1:05:54] compare with children living in
[1:05:55] Montréal in certain parts where
[1:05:56] parents can't necessarily afford
[1:06:01] proper oral health care. I think
[1:06:04] that would be the big
[1:06:06] determining factor. So it's very
[1:06:08] unfair and it has to be politics
[1:06:10] and money, because it means a
[1:06:12] major expense, whatever that
[1:06:13] would be, to add fluoridation to
[1:06:16] the Montréal water treatments.
[1:06:20] Thank, you Mister Mayor.
[1:06:21] >> Thank, you Roger. Any other
[1:06:23] from the yes side want to
[1:06:27] comment?
[1:06:28] >> I will just add, maybe
[1:06:30] summarizing because everything
[1:06:31] that was said, I fully agree
[1:06:32] with in terms of -- frankly, it
[1:06:34] just comes down to 3.3 in my
[1:06:37] mind. I know, Councillor mercury
[1:06:39] went into it in more details,
[1:06:40] but it's a public health
[1:06:41] situation whereby we've got
[1:06:43] national and provincial
[1:06:45] organization supporting this,
[1:06:47] basically unilaterally. So --
[1:06:50] experts that have studied this
[1:06:51] for -- this is not a new
[1:06:52] concept, people, this has been
[1:06:54] out for decades and in our water
[1:06:56] here for decades as well. So the
[1:07:00] histories there, the data's been
[1:07:02] proven, and it's costly being
[1:07:03] looked at and so on. So seems to
[1:07:04] be well supported over all. Key
[1:07:06] point to is the infrastructure,
[1:07:08] more on the operational side of,
[1:07:09] this exist in Pointe-Claire,
[1:07:11] it's working, there's nothing
[1:07:12] wrong with it. They're not a
[1:07:13] pivot point to make heavy
[1:07:15] investments and operations. It's
[1:07:17] still operating and it's still
[1:07:18] working. So I want to dismantle
[1:07:19] something that's working? And
[1:07:20] again, Montréal seems to be
[1:07:22] ignoring these facts and it's
[1:07:24] disappointing that, as you
[1:07:25] mentioned before, that this is
[1:07:26] their behaviour and the way of
[1:07:28] choosing to work, so we
[1:07:29] certainly want to make our
[1:07:32] voices clear. Both sides I
[1:07:33] understand here, but I
[1:07:36] appreciate the time to reiterate
[1:07:37] these points, but I definitely
[1:07:38] want to make that clear to
[1:07:40] Montréal. George, I will carry
[1:07:42] that torch when I go back, along
[1:07:44] with other communities this
[1:07:45] water is serving. So I think
[1:07:46] it's an important issue, not
[1:07:47] just for the children as well,
[1:07:48] for their whole community I
[1:07:50] think has something to gain by
[1:07:52] this. So I'm fully supporting
[1:07:53] this, 110%. And hopefully that
[1:07:56] our voice will add up with many
[1:07:58] others who speak about this in
[1:07:59] the coming weeks to come.
[1:08:03] >> Dominique, any comments?
[1:08:06] >> I think my colleagues have
[1:08:07] said it all. Thank you very
[1:08:10] much. But
[1:08:12] >> Now, the floor is yours,
[1:08:15] Martin. No? But No, no, it's not
[1:08:23] question period now.
[1:08:24] >> I know, but I just want to
[1:08:25] say -- that
[1:08:27] >> No, I'm sorry.
[1:08:29] >> I tried to mention, people
[1:08:30] are not choosing to put fluoride
[1:08:32] in water --
[1:08:33] >> I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but
[1:08:35] there are no comments.
[1:08:36] >> All right, I don't really
[1:08:37] want fluoride in the water. -- I
[1:08:40] eat organic.
[1:08:42] >> Would you talk to her?
[1:08:45] [Inaudible]
[1:08:46] I don't -- I agree with the City
[1:08:49] of Montréal would not putting
[1:08:50] fluoride in water.
[1:08:52] >> No, please. This is not the
[1:08:55] time. Sorry.
[1:08:57] >> Fluoride actually --
[1:08:58] >> Sorry.
[1:09:00] >> Fluoride is used as a
[1:09:01] pesticide to kill --
[1:09:03] >> Sorry.
[1:09:05] >> It is an actual toxin and
[1:09:07] it's that --
[1:09:08] >> He's going to --
[1:09:09] >> I have it in my toothpaste,
[1:09:11] but I don't want to swallow it.
[1:09:14] So to be forcing it in
[1:09:15] everybody's water is not fair.
[1:09:16] It's like for some people to
[1:09:18] take vaccines. People have a
[1:09:20] right to take those.
[1:09:25] >> Would you comment, --
[1:09:29] [Laughter]
[1:09:30] Yeah, I think so.
[1:09:34] >> I think it should be --
[1:09:40] [Inaudible]
[1:09:41] For us this down people's
[1:09:43] throats -- so what, people don't
[1:09:46] have --
[1:09:47] >> Nicole, the question period
[1:09:48] is over, okay? The next time,
[1:09:51] you have to organize it ahead of
[1:09:53] time. We'd like for Houston City
[1:10:07] -- we invite you to stay, but
[1:10:08] you can't stop talking, you have
[1:10:09] to leave.
[1:10:15] >> Hold for the -- it's your
[1:10:17] turn. - Merci. Merci, Dominic.
[1:10:23] Dans un premier temps, je veux
[1:10:24] être très clair. Je suis pas
[1:10:26] régulière... je bois
[1:10:28] régulièrement l'eau du robinet.
[1:10:29] En fait, à la maison, je suis le
[1:10:30] seul qui le fait parce que c'est
[1:10:32] l'autre qui nous est fournie et
[1:10:33] elle est bonne. J'ai aucune
[1:10:35] crainte. No worry whatsoever
[1:10:41] whatsoever regarding the
[1:10:42] fluoride in the water or the
[1:10:44] potential for nefarious effects
[1:10:47] that could have. That's not
[1:10:49] where I'm at. I heard my
[1:10:53] colleagues, in for the most
[1:10:54] part, I agree with a lot of the
[1:10:55] things they said. I don't like
[1:10:58] the way Montréal conducted
[1:10:59] itself in this file. I think
[1:11:02] it's not condoning, it's just to
[1:11:05] be clear.
[1:11:06] Condamnable. >> Condescending.
[1:11:10] >> Condescending it's wrong, you
[1:11:15] know. And having said that,
[1:11:17] however, I still think that we
[1:11:20] are taxpayers, we pay taxes. And
[1:11:25] we have a duty to make sure that
[1:11:26] the taxes are used properly,
[1:11:28] whether it be here in
[1:11:30] Beaconsfield or those we paid
[1:11:31] through our taxes that end up
[1:11:34] being used by Montréal. So the
[1:11:38] main reasons why I voted against
[1:11:41] a resolution is because I don't
[1:11:43] think that -- we are the ones
[1:11:47] that should be paying for it.
[1:11:49] And I will get to that in a
[1:11:51] moment. So Florida's Asian in
[1:11:54] Canada is widely divergent from
[1:11:57] one province to another. Ontario
[1:11:59] is up to 72% of its water
[1:12:02] systems being -- adding fluoride
[1:12:06] and being made available to its
[1:12:09] residents. In Québec, we're at
[1:12:10] the other end of the spectrum,
[1:12:12] at 1%. About 80,000, 80 to
[1:12:15] 90,000 people get fluoride in
[1:12:17] their water, and it's us here in
[1:12:19] the West Island. Where the only
[1:12:21] ones in the province. But so my
[1:12:25] take on, this we're talk about
[1:12:26] public health, and I think it's
[1:12:27] important that we keep focused
[1:12:29] on that, my take on this is that
[1:12:31] if it's really a public health
[1:12:34] issue, it's a provincial issue,
[1:12:36] it's up to the Québec government
[1:12:38] to take the appropriate measures
[1:12:40] and pay for the infrastructure
[1:12:45] and the service of fluoride. And
[1:12:47] in fact, it's a very similar
[1:12:49] position that we've taken with
[1:12:50] the sound wall here in
[1:12:52] Beaconsfield. When Dr. Kaiser
[1:12:54] mentioned that it was a public
[1:12:56] health issue, we said, you know
[1:12:58] what, if it's a public health
[1:12:59] issue, Québec should take care
[1:13:00] of it. So I don't understand why
[1:13:05] locally we should be paying
[1:13:08] taxes for something that is, in
[1:13:10] my opinion, Québec -- like the
[1:13:13] Québec government's
[1:13:14] responsibility. And also for a
[1:13:17] service that is perhaps not as
[1:13:20] needed today as it was 20, 30,
[1:13:23] 40 years ago, it was dental
[1:13:27] services for children are now
[1:13:28] readily available and paid by
[1:13:29] that ramp Q, which is not the
[1:13:30] case 30, 40, or maybe 50 years
[1:13:31] ago. On met du fluor dans notre
[1:13:32] eau. On tire la chasse des
[1:13:33] toilettes, il y a personne qui
[1:13:34] en bénéficie. On arrose nos
[1:13:36] pelouses, on remplit nos
[1:13:37] piscines, on lave les voitures,
[1:13:40] etc., etc.. Il y a peut-être
[1:13:45] dix, 15, 20% de l'eau que nous
[1:13:49] consommons qui finit
[1:13:51] effectivement par être un
[1:13:53] service public dirigé
[1:13:58] bucco-dentaires. Alors je pense
[1:14:00] que quand on regarde ça, il faut
[1:14:03] aussi garder en tête que
[1:14:19] merci.
[1:14:20] -- And so, we are also -- doctor
[1:14:26] Joe Schwartz, if we want to talk
[1:14:28] about doctors and their take on,
[1:14:29] it the relative service that
[1:14:33] fluoride in the water
[1:14:35] represents, doctor Schwartz is
[1:14:36] the director of McGill
[1:14:39] university's office for science
[1:14:41] in society, and he was quoted as
[1:14:42] saying the need for fluoride in
[1:14:44] certain areas, I think, is no
[1:14:46] longer there. He's speaking from
[1:14:49] a Québec standpoint if he's
[1:14:51] saying that -- I'd like to think
[1:14:53] when it comes to different
[1:14:56] income strata, but -- it's
[1:15:02] perhaps not in the socioeconomic
[1:15:04] typical area where health care
[1:15:08] is suffering. I'm not saying
[1:15:10] that there are people suffering.
[1:15:11] I don't want to be misquoted on
[1:15:13] that, but everything is
[1:15:15] relative. And it also says, Dr.
[1:15:18] Shorts, that as long as kids
[1:15:22] bossed -- brush their teeth with
[1:15:25] fluoridated toothpaste station
[1:15:27] miss out on the benefit of the
[1:15:29] mineral or wants the City of
[1:15:30] Montréal turns off the tap. So I
[1:15:33] really look at it as being a
[1:15:37] huge waste of money. It's a
[1:15:40] small amount, but it's
[1:15:41] nonetheless a huge waste of
[1:15:44] money. And therefore in the
[1:15:46] absence of consultation with the
[1:15:47] public, I go with what I feel is
[1:15:49] right. And I'm not saying that
[1:15:50] my colleagues are wrong. There
[1:15:52] we go. - Oui. Juste une couple
[1:15:56] de commentaires sur ce que vous
[1:15:58] avez dit, monsieur. Moi, je suis
[1:16:04] pas certain que même si le
[1:16:07] dentiste, c'est gratuit et tout
[1:16:10] ça pour mes enfants, je suis pas
[1:16:11] certain que je veux que les
[1:16:13] enfants aient des dehors...
[1:16:21] dedans avec des carrés. Je ne
[1:16:23] suis pas certain que je voudrais
[1:16:26] ça. Moi, j'ai aidé... élevé deux
[1:16:30] enfants à Kirkland piqueurs
[1:16:32] Field et ils ont quand même un
[1:16:34] certain âge aujourd'hui. Ils ont
[1:16:36] jamais eu de problème avec leur
[1:16:39] dans. Et le coup, il faut faire
[1:16:46] attention, parce que
[1:16:47] l'équipement qui est en place,
[1:16:49] ça fait des années qu'il est en
[1:16:51] place et cet équipement-là
[1:16:54] fonctionne très bien
[1:16:57] présentement. Il y a pas de
[1:16:58] coûts additionnels pour la
[1:17:02] maintenir comme elle est
[1:17:03] présentement. D'ailleurs, à un
[1:17:07] moment donné, Montréal avait
[1:17:09] dit, on va regarder la
[1:17:13] fluoration dans l'ouest de l'île
[1:17:16] jusqu'à ce qu'on soit obligé de
[1:17:19] changer l'équipement. Et à ce
[1:17:21] moment-là, on pourra prendre une
[1:17:23] décision peut-être de l'éliminer
[1:17:25] tout simplement. Alors
[1:17:27] l'équipement fonctionne bien.
[1:17:31] D'enlever la fluoration dans
[1:17:33] l'ouest de l'île, ça va coûter
[1:17:37] beaucoup plus d'argent que la
[1:17:40] maintenir aujourd'hui. Donc
[1:17:41] c'est pas une question de coûts.
[1:17:43] C'est une question de...
[1:17:46] beaucoup plus politique.
[1:17:52] >> No, no, no. Non, non, non!
[1:17:54] Kevin, please --
[1:17:56] >> My sister just -- but
[1:18:01] [Inaudible]
[1:18:04] Because --
[1:18:09] [Inaudible]
[1:18:10] On continue la réunion.
[1:18:17] >> Deposit or the director's
[1:18:19] report.
[1:18:20] - Oui, Monsieur le Maire. La
[1:18:21] plupart des directeurs, les
[1:18:26] rapports des directeurs. On a
[1:18:28] reçu de la partie municipale du
[1:18:30] visionnement du conseil. J'en ai
[1:18:31] un autre qui a été déposé aussi,
[1:18:34] le rapport des permis du mois de
[1:18:37] septembre. Je peux vous dire, on
[1:18:39] s'active beaucoup présentement à
[1:18:41] préparer l'hiver et notre
[1:18:43] Service des loisirs a préparait
[1:18:45] déjà les activités hivernales.
[1:18:54] - Alors, on est rendu à la ferme
[1:18:57] nouvelle?
[1:18:58] - Il y en a pas, je crois. Donc
[1:18:59] la levée de la séance?
[1:19:01] - Je propose.
[1:19:03] >> I second. - Alors, tout le
[1:19:05] monde en faveur de terminer la
[1:19:09] séance? Merci beaucoup. Thank
[1:19:12] you very much for being here in
[1:19:17] the council chamber and also to
[1:19:21] those that are watching us on
[1:19:23] the webcast. Thank you very much
[1:19:26] for the interest that you are
[1:19:28] showing in your city. Merci
[1:19:31] beaucoup d'avoir beaucoup
[1:19:32] d'intérêt et on se reverra le
[1:19:33] mois prochain. But -- off until
[1:19:40] next month, I see some regular
[1:19:42] people that come to every
[1:19:45] meeting. I hope to see you again
[1:19:47] next month. Thank you very much.