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Welcome to the special meeting

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of the municipal council of

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Monday, December the 16th. And

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now, the clerk will tell us the

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agenda.

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>> Could you say in your mic?

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>> Seconded.

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>> Okay. All in favour? All

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right. I think I'm going to

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reverse the question period

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because I think the presentation

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-- for the question period.

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>> I will try to answer your

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question in my capacities. Your

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questions are related to the

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three-year capital expenditure

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program. So the first question

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is related to the anticipated

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amount that is expected to be

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borrowed or finance. For 2020,

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five we have a pretty good idea

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for the years and the amount

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that is expected to be borrowed

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depends on the approved contract

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by Council the moment of their

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realization. Available grants to

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be confirmed and available

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financial sources such as

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reserves. Your second question,

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a little related, is taking into

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account principal repayment or

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other debt retirement. What is

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the expected net increase and

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long term debt and this year? We

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will need to carry by the end of

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year 2027. Similar to the first

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answer, to your first question,

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the increase of the debt always

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depends of the available grants

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and the moment we borrow to

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finance the projects. Like I

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said, it's in the presentation.

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We will pay around $2 million a

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year in capital interests in our

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budget. Question number three,

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what is the projected tax

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increase for the average

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Beaconsfield household? That

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would be required to -- find the

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additional debt. We will find

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out if we have additional data

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after 2025. And also, it depends

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to some extent on the above

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answers as well. But operational

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cost of services and means to

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finance those costs other than

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taxation. And your fourth

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question is related to the why

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we do not put in the item in

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details in the capital

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expenditure programs. The reason

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is that we want to, we do this

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since 2018 where the decision

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does not provide more details.

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The City will provide more

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details after the approval of

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the CP in the -- in a way to

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maintain a healthy competition

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amongst bidders during the

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bidding process. We want to

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avoid giving those specific

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numbers during the adoption of

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the capital program. I believe

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that solves all the answers,

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Mister Mayor.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Boileau. And,

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now are there any questions on

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the budget from the floor,

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strictly on the budget?.

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>> Or capital programs.

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>> I knew so box.

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>> It's a special meeting, it's

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on the budget. We will have a

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regular meeting after.

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>> Totally on the budget. I was

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a good girl and watched my

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homework today. I watched the

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video and analyzed it and I went

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through all of the information

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because I always say everybody,

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democracy is very important. And

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it is. It starts here in the

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municipal area. If any of my

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questions -- I'm new to this. I

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usually do patient advocacy and

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other stuff. Just before we

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>> Could you give your name and

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your --

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>> Cheryl and Simon O on Sussex

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Drive. For the tax increases and

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the justification of the 3.28

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tax increase, I understand what

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was just said. And I understand

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that the inflation in the

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agglomeration costs are being

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cited as part of the

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justification. But I think he

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answered this in the time

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coming, we will see more

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detailed breakdown of what that

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-- what those increases mean to

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us. Oops, I lost my page. One

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second. Basically, it will be

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interesting to see the details

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for the breakdown for those

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increases. And I was also paying

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attention to mitigation plans

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for vulnerable populations and

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senior citizens on a fixed

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income. So I will be looking

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forward to hearing how we will

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help them out with taking into

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account the increases in the

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taxes. And of course, my big

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concern is the Public Security

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budget, the increase of public

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security spending. And you know

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this is an area of deep concern

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for me lately. I was wondering

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if you could elaborate what any

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new programs or equipment or

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initiatives are being talked

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about that would be related to

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the increase in the public

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security spending? And I do

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understand that that is probably

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related to the agglomeration as

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well. If you could expound on

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that a little bit. At the last

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meeting, I was talking about I

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would like to see a little more

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security.

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related to the agglomeration

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budget. Not the local budgets.

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have that. Be sickly, I think

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just wanted to ask about the

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community programs. Okay, okay.

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spending. How we can know if the

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budget supports programs for

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youth, seniors and vulnerable

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populations. And are there any

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reductions in the recreational

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or cultural activities that

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would impact community

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engagement at all? And I think I

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will do have to learn more about

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the agglomeration because I do

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think a lot of the questions go

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to that area. But I think for

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the future, if the public can

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understand even more about this,

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maybe it's because I am late

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coming to the party. If we can

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understand more services

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in return for all the money we

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are paying. I know there's a big

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on your part to look at that.

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agglomeration budget, there was

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a permission that site for the

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last couple of weeks. I think it

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ended last week. Where you

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could've asked all the questions

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you had related to the

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agglomeration. Unfortunately,

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people from the municipalities

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don't seem to know or go to the

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agglomeration and ask questions

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about the agglomeration budget.

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That budget has a huge impact on

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your taxes. A huge impact on

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your taxes. And you will see

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this year that when we look at

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the real estate taxes overall, I

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think it is 70% of it that goes

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to the agglomeration. I think

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it's about 70%, right?

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taxes go to the agglomeration.

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budget, your taxes. And I wish

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that our residents would get

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much more interested in the

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agglomeration and the weight

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functions, and how it impacts

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your daily life and your taxes.

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your concerns that you mentioned

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a lot. Please feel free, you can

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write to me at another time if

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you have more questions. But

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speaking of Public Security,

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when it's our budget, it's

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really the police and the fire

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department, which is the

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agglomeration. The increases are

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quite hefty every year, I find.

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I think the mayor would agree

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with that as well. And about

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community services, we didn't

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take out any money from

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community services. In fact,

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we've added some money for

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summer students to work in the

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connect project which would be

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an area that is very interesting

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for which we have gotten a price

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on October 12th. We've added a

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are working with Beaconsfield.

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women power, people power, I

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don't know anymore how we say

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this, but that is some people to

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do better cleanup and during the

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summer in our parks are, public

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spaces, the green spaces and

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parks. In a nutshell, that is

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the SPVM budget I think was

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exceeded by about $50 million in

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2024. And it is due to all the

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demonstrations, all the

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activities where the police had

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to get involved. In the 2025

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same amount as it was in the

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previous year. Again, we are

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looking at a huge deficit in

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2025, in the police budget in

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the agglomeration,

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unfortunately.

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Nicole. I am going to say --

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piggybacking on what she was

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saying about the police budget.

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I believe that Beaconsfield is

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spending over 6 million on

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policing this year. Could you

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pull up the budget, specifically

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for police?

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police is what we pay as a share

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to the agglomeration. We don't

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things -- one way Beaconsfield

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could end up saving money is by

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partially defunding and

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certainly detail asking, it's

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what he was talking about. You

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know, the Beaconsfield --

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police, fire, ambulance, public

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security. But Baie-D'Urfé and

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responders, civilian first

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have, in addition to the

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traditional ones, they will have

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-- who will help the police with

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search and rescue. If a person

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goes missing, there are

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volunteers to help find missing

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persons. So that's wonderful.

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Certainly, we could bring that

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in. There is also -- Bader fee

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has volunteer seasons on patrol.

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>> Could you come to your

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question?

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>> Yeah. The question is why

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doesn't Beaconsfield do more

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indeed tasking? From a personal

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-- as a person on the autism

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spectrum, I have had negative

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encounters with police but I

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didn't need police.

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>> Are you talking about the

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police? Or the municipal patrol?

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>> I'm talking about the police

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and I am from Toronto. Toronto

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has -- she's a nurse.

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>> I think you should go to the

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agglomeration asked questions

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about the police. It is not

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under our control. It's under

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the jurisdiction of the

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agglomeration and you are

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welcome to ask your questions at

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the agglomeration.

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>> But one thing I was going to,

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say I know the police budget is

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under the agglomeration. But one

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thing that Beaconsfield could

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do, and I'm sure you could find

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something somewhere in the

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budget to fund this, is to

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provide a community crisis

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service. Instead of having

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police come when a person is

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having a mental health crisis or

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a neurological crisis, if the

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person is not armed, you could

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have a volunteer citizen who

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would be specially trained to

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become first responders. The

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city of Toronto does. That it's

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called the Toronto community

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crisis service. It works

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wonderful.

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>> Thank you very much for your

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suggestions. We will pass them

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on. Thank you.

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>> Another thing I was going to

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say, and this does have to do

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the budget, the budget is the

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one time that the dog pound is

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brought up. Okay? You can pull

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it up. It is in the tariffs.

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Because it says that a 50 dollar

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dog pound, feet if the dog is

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not licensed. This morning, just

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out of my own curiosity, what I

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did --

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>> Could you get to your

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question? Because we cannot give

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you half an hour of speeches.

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>> It's not. I talked to this

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architectural firm and got an

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estimate for redoing the dog

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pound. And they took one look at

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the pictures that I've taken of

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it through the window, not

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inside. But they saw some

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pictures, of a saw the tiny

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cages the dogs were in.

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>> What is your question?

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>> My question is, why does the

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city keep covering up the fact

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that there is a space where dogs

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are held? Why is the City

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covering up the fact that there

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is not a separate space for

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eating, sleeping, and

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elimination? There is no outdoor

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outs -- access to the cage. Is

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there really tiny. Why does the

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city not bring up the fact that

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the storage room, which is twice

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the size of the candle room, has

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--

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>> Thank you for your question.

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I will ask Mr. Boileau to

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answer. No, this is it. That's

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it.

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>> My question is, what is the

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city of Beaconsfield going to do

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to expand it? It's only $5

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million and we could get a

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fundraising campaign to try to

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raise money to get the 5

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million.

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>> Thank you very much. I will

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ask Mr. Boileau to answer your

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question.

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>> The city of Beaconsfield does

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not have a dog pound, there is a

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little shelter that is available

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for the occasionally found dog.

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That is straight. Normally,

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within a few hours, it is back

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to the --. There is nothing in

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the budget for any improvement

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of the dog. Down there is

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nothing in the program for $5

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million for a dog pound in

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Beaconsfield. We do have --

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normally, the dogs are returned

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to their owners. Thank you.

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>> And there was a husky who was

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there for three days. A Husky

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needs a lot of exercise. I've

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been gathering data on the

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animals myself. And I'm going to

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set up an organization. To take

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over that pound.

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>> If you do not stop now --

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any other questions?

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This is on the budget, right?

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>> Yes.

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>> Okay.

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>> Can you hear me? Or needs to

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be plugged? You can hear me?

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>> Identify yourself. Could you

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identify yourself, please.

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>> I am about to. I just wanted

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to make sure you can hear me.

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You can hear me? Great. My name

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is Alison smiley. I'm on the

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north side, over 25 years. I'm

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inquiring about the expenditures

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outlined in bylaw 163 and 164

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that pertain to structural

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rehabilitation work of water

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mains and sewer pipes. Will the

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City be directing funds to basin

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21, which is located on the

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north side and has the largest

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number of pipes?

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>> This is not on the agenda. It

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was a special counsel. If you

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want to come back after to the

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regular Council, you can ask

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your questions. In the meantime,

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we are looking at the adoption

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of the budget.

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>> I know. I read the first

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agenda.

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>> No, you can come back at a

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regular meeting and ask your

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question.

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- Non, c'est l'adoption du

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budget. C'est pas une

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question...

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- Oui.

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In your first agenda. So I

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specifically split to make sure

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that I read it that way. On the

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agenda, you had one agenda and

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then you have the other agenda.

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The first meeting had an agenda.

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In there, you have the

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expenditures. Under the

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expenditures, it talks about

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bylaw 163 and 160. For if I got

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it mixed up --

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>> Come back to the regular

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council which will start at

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8:00. And you can come back with

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your question. Thank you. No

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more questions. We thank you

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very much. Thank you very much.

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>> It is not safe.

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>> Thank you very much. I will

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ask Mr. house to take care of

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it. - Appelle la police. Appelle

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la police. Appelle la police.

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- Donc...

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>> An option of the three-year

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capital expenditure program for

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2025 2026, and 2027.

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>> Proposed.

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>> Seconded.

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>> All in favour? - Adoption du

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budget 2025 de la Ville de

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Beaconsfield.

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>> Proposed.

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>> Second.

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>> All in favour? - À

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l'unanimité. Closing of the

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meeting.

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>> We are now closing this

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meeting. La levée de la séance,

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de la réunion. Et la prochaine

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réunion qui va être la séance

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ordinaire du conseil municipal

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va débuter à 8 heures.

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- Est-ce qu'on peut voter?

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- Est-ce qu'il y a un vote?

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- J'appuie.

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- Tout le monde en faveur? Oui?

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- À l'unanimité. C'est bien.

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- On termine ça.