1 00:00:05,620 --> 00:00:12,740 Well, welcome, everyone. We appreciate you being in court meetings. Looks like Mike has our invocation 2 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:15,660 and pledge of allegiance, and we'll come the time to him. 3 00:00:22,990 --> 00:00:24,970 Our father in heaven, as we come 4 00:00:24,970 --> 00:00:29,570 before the of this night, Father, we pray that thy spirit will be in attendance here at 5 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:38,190 this meeting. Father, we pray that the rain may fall upon us that we so desperately need 6 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:44,070 in the water for our crops. Father, we thank thee for the opportunity we have to serve 7 00:00:44,070 --> 00:00:50,650 thee and pray for the citizens of Boxelter County and the water issues that we have that 8 00:00:50,650 --> 00:00:57,950 we may make wise decisions. We thank thee once again, Father, for all blessings which flow 9 00:00:57,950 --> 00:01:03,650 from the, and pray for these things, and do so in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. 10 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:17,820 I pledge allegiance to the high of the United States of America and to the Republic for which 11 00:01:17,820 --> 00:01:24,160 it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, new with liberty and justice for all. 12 00:01:29,940 --> 00:01:30,740 Thank you, Mike. 13 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:36,700 I need conflicts of interest tonight because he declares. 14 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,780 I don't know what the only existence is. 15 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:46,200 If you need a minute, I'll read it. 16 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,260 The end of that and we'll go when we want. 17 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,660 We're going to take a motion to adopt the agenda and approve the minutes of May 27th, 2026. 18 00:01:56,740 --> 00:01:57,980 I'll move. We do that. 19 00:01:58,660 --> 00:01:59,800 I will second that. 20 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,060 I have a motion in a second on the table while in favor. 21 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:03,820 Aye. 22 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Any opposed? 23 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:06,720 Motion passes. 24 00:02:08,940 --> 00:02:16,180 Apparently, Lyle stuck in Florida, so I do have a statement from him if you want me 25 00:02:16,180 --> 00:02:16,620 to read that. 26 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,020 Sure. 27 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:22,280 So Lyle sent me a text this morning from the Miami Airport. 28 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,980 He said, let everyone know that I have reviewed the finances and find everything in order. 29 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:29,320 I feel yeah, 30 00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:39,910 okay? We'll try and answer it. I have a number 5174. That's a payment 31 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:47,750 to JUB for some engineering. $62,000 for any $3 and it says it's from Bear River Plan. It's an EIS study. 32 00:02:47,930 --> 00:02:56,030 Is that the one we talked about last month? And the question I have on that is part of that lower 33 00:02:56,030 --> 00:02:58,570 or a river plan, or river, is that, 34 00:02:59,190 --> 00:03:00,850 is that what DCIS is for? 35 00:03:01,010 --> 00:03:01,130 Yes. 36 00:03:01,730 --> 00:03:03,730 And so we pay in that money, because I understand 37 00:03:03,730 --> 00:03:07,230 and I have was that that was going to be where the clearing 38 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:11,410 house, but that, but we're not the ones that are actually 39 00:03:11,410 --> 00:03:11,910 paying that. 40 00:03:12,290 --> 00:03:13,430 So it's just a pass-through. 41 00:03:14,030 --> 00:03:16,770 So we do pay JUB, but we get reimbursed. 42 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:17,590 Yeah, we get reimbursed. 43 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:19,570 NRCS? 44 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:24,670 Yes, so I'm going to be on the non-operating income. 45 00:03:24,670 --> 00:03:33,530 Yeah, it's NRCS, the account number 5155, the federal grant, and then right below that is the 46 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:36,870 VR Canal PL566. 47 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:43,770 And that's where that income comes in. So we pay it out and then they send it back to us. 48 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:48,750 I'm just curious if that's where it was and it's kind of like comfortable with that. 49 00:03:50,350 --> 00:04:02,470 So is it the same situation with the connection fee that was paid for $4,600 to a resident 50 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:05,310 or an adress in Deweyville? 51 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:08,960 No, that's not the same. 52 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:11,780 What was it on the way? 53 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,740 That we received from a resident? 54 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,660 We paid it. 55 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:17,160 We paid a resident. 56 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,940 I don't remember paying any resident. 57 00:04:18,940 --> 00:04:22,500 Is it on your check register? Is that where you're looking at? Hold on one minute. 58 00:04:34,830 --> 00:04:36,310 Sorry, I'm having more time going on. 59 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:39,050 You know where it's out, Brian? Check register? Yeah. 60 00:04:42,630 --> 00:04:43,670 It's on page two. 61 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,540 Sorry, just take a minute to get this told up. 62 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,020 Page two, did you say? 63 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,920 I didn't see it on page two. 64 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:05,060 No, it's not on page two. 65 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,700 I just needed a mouth there, but it wasn't there. 66 00:05:11,460 --> 00:05:12,580 What's the check number again? 67 00:05:12,580 --> 00:05:14,580 I'll tell you this is going to be right here. 68 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:15,260 I'll 69 00:05:42,650 --> 00:05:49,750 check number 5198. 70 00:05:54,740 --> 00:05:58,380 That's our ex-cognitive company that does our connections. 71 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:03,420 And I'm wondering why we're paying that instead of having the residents? 72 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:04,520 Well, they pay us. 73 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:06,300 So that's a pass through again. 74 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:07,580 That's my question. 75 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:08,440 Yeah, yeah. 76 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,300 Yeah, so we put a connection fee on the customer. 77 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:12,900 Okay. 78 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:13,520 Okay. 79 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,780 That's what I was asking. 80 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Any 81 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,340 other questions? 82 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:26,180 Those clarifications are sufficient for both of you. 83 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:31,980 I'd entertain a motion to accept the financials. 84 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,620 Let me accept the financials as reported. 85 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:38,120 It's been moved and seconded, all in favour? 86 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:45,860 here. Hi. Hi. Any opposed? Action items tonight. We have Anderson Development, 200 units 87 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:52,560 in Bothwell, and Anderson Family Representative. You want to come to the table and? Sure. 88 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:59,960 Are we do I think? Right there at the front and center. Or wherever you're comfortable? 89 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:14,820 We were in here a year ago on a little serve for a property and I believe that later was for a year. 90 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:17,420 We're trying to see if we can extend that a year. 91 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:25,490 Anything you want to add to that? 92 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:33,940 chance or around the question anybody has say have the original and in your 93 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:37,020 packets the original will serve letter that was provided for the Anderson family 94 00:07:37,780 --> 00:07:41,180 all those same conditions that applied with that original will serve which I've 95 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:51,240 got got here all those same contingency still apply and you have a petition 96 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,980 no there's only good for one year and then you have to come back and and repotitions 97 00:07:55,980 --> 00:07:57,120 That's just what this is. 98 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:57,600 What is it? 99 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,740 What's the reason? 100 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:58,960 How? 101 00:07:59,260 --> 00:07:59,600 Nothing. 102 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,980 It's complicated. 103 00:08:01,540 --> 00:08:01,700 Yeah. 104 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,520 We've had answers with two or three parties. 105 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:14,020 And the economies of scale what we need to make that work and bring out water and water. 106 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:15,760 We're still struggling with a little bit. 107 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Dr. Rambe and he's, I want to say he's lost enthusiasm. 108 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:30,860 He says, if you made me work with, I'll participate as well, but we've got a group in 109 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:33,920 light, and then the group is so late, and it's 110 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:39,350 just complicated and need no more time. 111 00:08:40,110 --> 00:08:46,890 So has anything changed as far as water commitments in that year's time frame that we have, so water 112 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:49,950 is available as you know, there's nothing to do. 113 00:08:51,130 --> 00:09:06,850 Yeah, if you remember right, we had a hands-on and loose do some modeling and quite a bit of infrastructure would need to be built by the Anderson family and other developers to make it happen which is, you can see here in the will serve letter. 114 00:09:08,910 --> 00:09:14,950 The family would be forced to follow what our engineers have advised and so on. 115 00:09:14,950 --> 00:09:20,790 I spoke last year, there was some of the line that was going to be built by the 116 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:26,390 conservancy at a point in time. I'm curious where that's at. 117 00:09:28,540 --> 00:09:33,600 It's engineered and shovel ready, but the district doesn't build infrastructure 118 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,720 without real commitments. And so, so we, there's lots of things that are 119 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:44,100 talked about out there, but nobody's really stepped up to force the construction of 120 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:47,300 that, just yet. But it's your already could go tomorrow. 121 00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:53,680 Have they paid their down payment to receive this water? 122 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Nope. Nope. No, they haven't paid any impact fees. 123 00:09:57,380 --> 00:10:00,860 And our water is on a first come first or basis. So if someone 124 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:04,180 came in next meeting and actually committed to the water and 125 00:10:04,180 --> 00:10:07,740 paid for it. Are we waiting for Anderson to make a commitment 126 00:10:07,740 --> 00:10:10,320 on a monetary or financial statement? 127 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:10,960 Absolutely. 128 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,620 see before we can. Yeah, the Anderson family and many other developments out in that area, 129 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,000 including Tremont City. 130 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,780 Gentlemen, we just found you think a little more time. I hope I'm not 131 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:29,900 here next year saying we need another year, but we've done, we've got quite a bit accomplished, 132 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:39,430 but we'd like to continue on. I'd make a motion, stuff that's changed, and we've 133 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:43,050 Approved it on your extension for the Anderson family. 134 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:45,390 I'll second it. 135 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:52,350 We've moved and seconded that we make the one-year extension for the Anderson family development. 136 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:53,110 All in favor? 137 00:10:53,890 --> 00:10:54,130 Aye. 138 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:55,150 Any opposed? 139 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:56,770 Motion passes. 140 00:10:57,290 --> 00:10:58,090 Thank you. 141 00:11:00,290 --> 00:11:01,590 Thank you very much. 142 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:02,170 Thank you. 143 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,300 The Sunset Vista subdivision. 144 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,300 You're not in Mortensen? 145 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:18,220 Welcome. 146 00:11:18,820 --> 00:11:19,200 Thank you. 147 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:20,700 I'm Bruno Mortensen. 148 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:21,560 Good to meet you all. 149 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:25,750 Let's see here. 150 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:26,290 I've got some. 151 00:11:26,770 --> 00:11:27,410 I like your shirt. 152 00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:28,230 Thank you. 153 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:29,110 I like your shirt. 154 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:31,930 That was natural way to go. 155 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:32,890 Did you guys call me? 156 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:37,820 Let's see. 157 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,220 I have some notes. 158 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,400 Did you say you're going to do a background on this first? 159 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,120 No, I'll just turn it over to you if you want to explain. 160 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,940 Okay, the location. I'll bring up whatever you need. 161 00:11:49,940 --> 00:11:51,700 Sure. And there was a packet. 162 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:59,060 I prepared a couple of pages of bullet points and notes about this little development. 163 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:03,100 And if there was a packet, people had a chance to glance at it. 164 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:05,660 Were there any things initially? 165 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:13,080 Or the questions, the comments that anybody would like me to touch on or just go through what I have first? 166 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:15,940 Start with that. 167 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:16,380 Yeah. 168 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:16,680 Yeah. 169 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:17,300 Okay. 170 00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:19,860 Let's see. 171 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,400 I'm just going to give you a little bit of brief, very brief background about myself. 172 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,980 I'm originally from Colville, Utah. 173 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,160 It's where I grew up, and then I tend to school in Utah State in Logan, Tello, 5, and I had 174 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,760 at home in North Odden until 2016, and then moved to South Wheeler. 175 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,940 So I've been in Box Elder County enjoying life here for the last 10 years. 176 00:12:41,940 --> 00:12:48,940 obviously spent a lot of time before then and I'm like, everybody here, I assume 177 00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:57,240 loves the quality of life here and the rural atmosphere and drying around, you know, I love 178 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,680 seeing the open fields in the open space and don't like to see, you know, when I see a 179 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:07,600 lot of it getting plowed up, fortunately we haven't had much of that yet, but one of the 180 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:18,720 things about developments. I'm not a long-term, long-time professional developer. I just did a nice 181 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:26,940 little one by my home in South Lillard, where we extended the street on 10 acres that I had 182 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:35,200 purchased from the school district recently. And it's just going to keep the same look and feel on a 183 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,660 of the half-acre logs like I live on there in South Wheeler. 184 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:43,620 And so I feel like a lot of the multi-family housing 185 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:46,220 and things like that, you see going in different places 186 00:13:46,220 --> 00:13:49,080 other than like some isolated pockets in the cities 187 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,620 where they're allowed and it doesn't really fit 188 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:52,400 well with Boxilla County. 189 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:55,480 So in fact, when I was thinking about this one 190 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,060 or some other ones that I work on like this, 191 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,860 the Boxilla County general plan states 192 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:07,180 that it protects opportunities to live in a rural atmosphere through decisions that support 193 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:11,580 our farmers and ranchers and their agricultural stewardship by encouraging developments 194 00:14:12,130 --> 00:14:17,460 on ground that isn't well-suited for agriculture and focus most of the growth in our near existing 195 00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:18,260 cities and towns. 196 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:26,180 So this one, the nice thing about this, is it checks all those boxes, it's not a high-density 197 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:33,100 the development. It is a narrow and existing community and it's got single family homes 198 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:41,120 in a rural setting on ground that's not well suited for agricultural uses. And I dug 199 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:51,980 the test holes for the sewer system or the septic feasibility letter. The septic test holes 200 00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:59,300 And it's like Rocky not even a foot underground. I mean, I was struggling with my it's a pretty good mini-expert 201 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,880 I was having a hard time getting down. So nobody's going to go plough it up and grow any crops there. I can tell you that. So I've got some more thoughts on that. But what I've done here is just laid it out. And it happens to be if you look through the notes on it. It's right there north of Deweyville in an area that I really like. And this very ever water conservancy district, you guys have a pump house on actual 202 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:36,000 property itself. So we had a pre 203 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:44,240 -petition meeting and so I should back up a 204 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,760 little bit and say that what I've put together here these are all over half 205 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,500 acre lots. Obviously in the county code they have to be at least point out 206 00:15:55,500 --> 00:16:02,520 square cutter and half a through to half a septic system. So these are all approximately 207 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,940 21,000 square feet. 208 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,120 You can see how that comes in and just shows a temporary turnaround 209 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,020 because the piece there is part of it that's in the town, a Deweyville, but I don't know 210 00:16:15,020 --> 00:16:20,480 what to do or have plans on that one. Immediately this is just on a piece that's in an incorporate 211 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,760 a box of the county. 212 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,720 And so then on section 4 of my notes as it relates to 213 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:41,340 variable water, conservancy districts, water service policy. It says that you 214 00:16:41,340 --> 00:16:46,880 consider each position on individual basis, state and dental location costs, the 215 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,980 impact water supplies and system capacity. 216 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,400 So I wanted to touch briefly on each. 217 00:16:51,980 --> 00:16:55,260 The location is within the service area, 218 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 but it's not within the boundary of another public water 219 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,100 system. 220 00:16:59,020 --> 00:17:01,940 The second one is cost, which would be minimal. 221 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,460 And it should result in revenue to the water district 222 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,380 through the connection fees and the recurring service 223 00:17:09,380 --> 00:17:13,960 provided each lot and result in zero cost to the district. 224 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:23,400 And the impact is minimal of any where there's already an existing pump house that exists on the actual property. 225 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:25,560 Fourth one is water supplies. 226 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:35,400 Again, we looked at that. The district floor supplies far exceeds the needs for this development. 227 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,400 System capacity is more than sufficient for the project needs. 228 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,800 and at our pre-petition meeting, we noted that there's 12 inch main lines 229 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:51,340 to and from the pump house that I think at the time was around 116 psi. 230 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,880 So we can determine that providing the service will be a problem. 231 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:05,080 In summary, I think it's a pretty straightforward proposal on petition for water service. 232 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,700 I feel like each of the criteria for riding the water 233 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:15,820 serves is easily met, possibly more easy than any previous petition in history, I 234 00:18:15,820 --> 00:18:21,060 guess since the water is already on the parcel. And so we have good opportunity 235 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:25,540 for a good work in relationship work, so you get there's neighbors that location 236 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:31,260 going forward. I also am excited about this because it checks the boxes of the 237 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:36,240 county's objectives with it being in close proximity to an existing community 238 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,280 and by keeping it in the farm ground open rather than building home down on good 239 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:43,760 farm ground. 240 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:53,140 How long have you owned the property? How long have you owned it? I haven't 241 00:18:53,140 --> 00:18:57,060 closed on it yet. I'm still in the I'm working on closing here within the next 242 00:18:57,060 --> 00:19:02,020 month. I've got a letter. Same thing happened with the piece I purchased in 243 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:09,420 South Wheeler, I got work through my process on that development there and then closed 244 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:11,840 on it. Most of that work had been completed. 245 00:19:14,860 --> 00:19:16,120 What was the mayor to go to think about? 246 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,380 I'm not the mayor anymore, former mayor. Former mayor, okay. 247 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:24,980 There was a letter that 248 00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:28,920 we built to climb the water. Did they do that just because it's not in our boundaries? 249 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:33,620 Well, they didn't actually decline the water. They told me that they had plenty of water 250 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:43,100 But they would have needed what they declined was the annexation and there were people who I needed to have zoning for 251 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,960 20,000 square foot lots into my 252 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,900 dismay and I didn't know I mean the stuff you learn to work into the process they don't have 253 00:19:51,900 --> 00:20:00,060 Zoning for half-fated lots their smallest one in the county does the R120 zoning like I have by my home in South 254 00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:07,100 but the smallest residential zone in New Haven was an 8th of an 8th year, so 35,000 square 255 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:13,080 full lots, and so what they declined was the annexation, and there were quite a few 256 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:19,900 people that didn't want to adopt the 20,000 square foot. 257 00:20:22,550 --> 00:20:29,570 So how many, if you did the zoning to meet New Haven's request, how many lots would you be able to do that? 258 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:41,790 Well, they'd still have to annex it and then we'd have to zone it as that 35,000 square foot. 259 00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:44,410 I think it showed B-I-H. 260 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:45,270 It was what? 261 00:20:45,550 --> 00:20:46,850 0.85 of an anchor. 262 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:48,290 0.85 of an anchor? 263 00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:48,730 Yeah. 264 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:49,050 Okay. 265 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:52,930 Yeah, that math works better. 266 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:56,850 I thought it was 0.8 of an anchor and I did the math today and it looked, it came out closer 267 00:20:56,850 --> 00:20:57,270 to the point. 268 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:58,710 Yeah, it's .85. 269 00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:01,990 Either way, I think your bill is time to go. 270 00:21:02,370 --> 00:21:08,770 You'd have 11 if we included that 2.5284 parcel at the bottom that's in the town. 271 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:16,010 And right now, we can do 12 just on the portion that's in Baxle, County. 272 00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:25,770 And I did want, I had one more comment about that. 273 00:21:25,770 --> 00:21:31,830 I don't, when I had, I shared a nice little, I thought it was a nice PowerPoint presentation 274 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:38,590 with the Planning and Zoning Commission in New York and also the Town Council and everybody 275 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:44,410 was like, this looks great, they were like, everybody was very positive, like after I did 276 00:21:44,410 --> 00:21:50,090 share it with the Planning Commission they said, put him on the agenda for next week and 277 00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:53,710 have him share it with the Town Council and so I came back and did that. 278 00:21:53,710 --> 00:22:06,210 And then, but in order to annex and have, especially have the reason that that town hearing, so then people came out and I decided not to attend just so it could be a neutral thing. 279 00:22:07,150 --> 00:22:16,270 It's probably a bad decision, but then people came out and they're like, well, we want to keep maintaining the rural field here, we want to have the open space. 280 00:22:16,270 --> 00:22:21,510 I'm like I had a whole slide on my presentation saying the same thing like that's why I like 281 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:23,310 Boxel the county and 282 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:29,610 So since then I've looked and done some research and there's actually over 20 parcels in the town boundaries 283 00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:30,850 They're half acre or smaller 284 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:34,590 Most of them are really close to this developer and so 285 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:43,770 And I will just say on the top of Deweyville they were all created before we even had that's true 286 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:50,810 That's right, I'm just saying they exist and everybody still feels like it's rural. 287 00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:54,630 My position is this isn't going to change the rural field. 288 00:22:54,990 --> 00:22:59,390 In fact, this property is going to end up there digging the test holes for the septic 289 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:00,150 feasibility letter. 290 00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:06,070 You can only see like one town straight line of sight visually one house that's even inside 291 00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:07,190 the town boundaries. 292 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:13,070 The other homes, three or an unincorporate boxhill of county do trees and then a couple others 293 00:23:13,070 --> 00:23:15,270 and they look way over top of this. 294 00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:17,990 So to me, it's in a perfect location, 295 00:23:18,490 --> 00:23:22,210 as far as being close to existing community, 296 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:25,410 it's not gonna diminish anybody's quality of life 297 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:26,450 by any stretch. 298 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:28,750 And the other thing I got thinking about too 299 00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:32,010 the other day that I did some math on this before the meeting. 300 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:34,070 Like a lot of times people think, 301 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:38,130 well, lower density zones, 302 00:23:38,370 --> 00:23:40,890 like the two acre zones and the five acre zones, 303 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:50,830 that it keeps the feel more rural, well, kind of, but in certain ways that's completely not true 304 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:56,650 because we know we have people want to move to the county because they want to enjoy the same quality life that we all have. 305 00:23:57,310 --> 00:24:06,330 But like in this example, we can fit 12 lots on 7.67 acre piece of ground. It's not usable for farm ground. 306 00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:16,390 But to put those same 12 lots on two-acre zone, we had two acres only, you'd have to have 307 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:21,590 like 29 or 30 acres, probably a good farm ground by the time you put in your infrastructure 308 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:22,830 for your development. 309 00:24:23,490 --> 00:24:30,290 And if it was five acres, it's even worse because they would be like 69 acres to have the 310 00:24:30,290 --> 00:24:31,750 same 12 single-family homes. 311 00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:48,430 And so to me, I think it's a home run as far as preserving e-mails counterintuitive, it preserves open space and makes it so some guy doesn't go put in 12 single family homes on the two acres on eight or five acres only when you can get. 312 00:24:48,910 --> 00:24:59,250 And you still have, as I like to say, you can't shake hands with your neighbor out the window. You still have a little bit of room, you know, so I think it's great. 313 00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:26,750 I think we better turn this meeting around a little bit, it's starting to sound like a planning commission meeting instead of a water providing meeting tonight, so I'd like to stick to the agenda, whether the Conservancy is willing to do a well-served letter. 314 00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:34,050 or not worry about his other items that we're spending so much time talking about. 315 00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:35,170 I apologize. 316 00:25:35,410 --> 00:25:37,730 I have a tendency to go off on attendance and get out of my way. 317 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:38,210 That's all right. 318 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:38,870 We need an answer. 319 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:40,690 So it's currently zone for what? 320 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:44,110 Just unzoned in the county or zone for what's the zone going on? 321 00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:44,270 I don't see. 322 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:46,210 I believe it's, isn't it? 323 00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:47,190 Act 40? 324 00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:48,150 No. 325 00:25:48,550 --> 00:25:49,710 Is it RR2? 326 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:51,510 Is what we thought. 327 00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:53,430 Your letter says A40. 328 00:25:53,430 --> 00:26:00,710 The one that came from, I think that's the one that's in the 2.52 acres in the town was the 840. 329 00:26:00,910 --> 00:26:03,570 I think the no-surveller, I think, identifies it. 330 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:05,410 Oh, what? 331 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:06,550 That's my question. 332 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:08,670 What's it currently, zone? 333 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:09,310 Yeah. 334 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:10,270 I think it's 840. 335 00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:18,390 I believe that is our two, the piece that's in the county, but I'm looking for that for you right now. 336 00:26:18,970 --> 00:26:26,410 says here it's currently a no serve letter says AG that's 40 so from do you so 337 00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:32,270 to Brian's point I don't know that that's necessarily our concern it's not 338 00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:34,870 that's what I could say we need to decide whether it would just serve the 339 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:39,370 water or not as long as the county improves the development yeah so I have a 340 00:26:39,370 --> 00:26:45,430 question that kind of deals with this but I know that districts intent is to be a 341 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:52,110 wholesaler, not a retailer. And how does that fit in this? We're doing bills, right? 342 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:58,110 I mean, basically, it looks like that line is right on the bottom there. How's that fit? 343 00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:05,920 Well, what we see in the district, that's the problem you have is where do you bill? You'd have 344 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,940 the wholesale, but the county, but the county's probably not going to give them the water business. 345 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:14,640 Because you've got a wholesale to whoever it's providing, you know, 346 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,940 So like down in South Wheeler, we have subdivisions that we've annexed and we're going to wholesale 347 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:28,680 water but Wheeler is going to provide the water, we'll sell it from you guys and sell it to the 348 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,840 subdivision. Here's another spot it doesn't work because they're in the county. Another thought is 349 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,660 Conservancy's buying water from Deweyville. We want to turn right back around and sell it to 350 00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:46,080 something to their neighbor? Well you can because your water policy allows you to sell it to me 351 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:54,200 it's just a retail sale or instead a wholesale but in the water policy it talks about retail 352 00:27:55,420 --> 00:28:01,740 petitions for new retail water service to resident commercial entity industrial or new development area 353 00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:07,360 or wholesale. You have the order to retail me water I just have to pay more than if you're wholesale 354 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:07,920 somebody. 355 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:20,180 But you've maintained the system then. Well, I did it back to you guys. So I have to pay for all the infrastructure costs to do it. 356 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,960 But I think we would have to maintain that system then wouldn't we? 357 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,860 Another basically a question is, even though there's a pump on the property here near the property, 358 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,120 that doesn't mean that's not a treatment plan or anything and it have to go to it. 359 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Where's the closest where the water comes from? 360 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,260 to come from district sources that are just a little bit further south or 361 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:51,120 south, sorry. And then it would be treated where? At that booster station. There's a 362 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,440 treatment plan after that property, that pump pass. It's not a treatment. It's just 363 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,680 chlorine. That's where we chlorinate the water. Okay. So south of that booster station 364 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,220 is what we call raw water. Everything north is finished water. And our first 365 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:08,300 This district retail customer is 400 feet up the road from this location. 366 00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:12,940 And it would reservoir would be south or north? 367 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:14,680 The reservoir is clear north. 368 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,440 So on the south of the pump station we have, that's our low pressure zone. 369 00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:24,220 And so for this development they'd have to tie onto the high pressure side of the pump station 370 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:25,740 and it would just back feed. 371 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,340 So you wouldn't have to go back to the reservoir and then pump back? 372 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,620 No, it would just naturally feed via gravity. 373 00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:36,300 I have one more thing I'd like to say and then I'll be done. 374 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:48,920 I think we really should consider a feasibility study because I go back to my days of UConn. 375 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:56,960 UConn has a contract with the Conservancy District to provide water to them up until 2036, 376 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,740 I believe, and uh... 377 00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:31,050 So, Deweyville has, we got a letter from the Conservancy District stating that there might be a chance that Deweyville would not provide water. And that's why that, um, was it the flat canyon well was dug? Yes. Now, a couple of years ago, a couple of years ago. And so, flat canyon well didn't produce very well. It may only. So, I'm saying, if Deweyville 378 00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:34,090 both chooses not to continue to serve the district. 379 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:43,510 We need to know we have additional capacity to add customers to it and do we have the, 380 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:50,190 is it in our policy to do feasibility studies when these type of things become requested? 381 00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:55,170 So the studies have already been done, even on just the district existing source, 382 00:30:55,170 --> 00:31:01,810 flat canyon it has the capacity for over 200 and I think don't quote in the 240s as 383 00:31:01,810 --> 00:31:07,850 far as even if do we build chooses not an honor to contract anymore yep yep so 384 00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:13,490 you can meet your contract rule agreements plus that more customers to it that's 385 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:16,090 correct yep that's correct I 386 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:27,420 just look at it with our agreements then purchasing 387 00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:35,400 water from Deweyville. Like I just I've got nothing against this project but I just think we need to be 388 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:43,380 careful with all we're doing with buying water from Deweyville and then going back around and that's just my opinion. 389 00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:50,100 Say and an ideal situation this would be identical to what we're doing down in South 390 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:56,480 Wheeler. We wholesale the water to Wheeler City and Wheeler City retells it. That's the that's the Goldie 391 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,780 Yeah, do you bill would step up and say approve this then you would be 392 00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:01,160 whole safe. 393 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:02,660 I wanted to do a bill and get that bill. 394 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,180 That's easy. 395 00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:03,600 It's easy. 396 00:32:03,740 --> 00:32:04,080 It could happen. 397 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:05,980 Nothing in the development changes. 398 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:06,660 It just happens. 399 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:07,840 But do he. 400 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,940 But do he's retarded? 401 00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:09,140 Yeah. 402 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,460 I've talked to do we bill. 403 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,340 And they said absolutely no. 404 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,040 Let's see. 405 00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:18,960 That's the hard part because with do we bill kind of bowing out of it? 406 00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:25,420 And the problem is that's probably in do we bill's annexation zone? 407 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:26,040 Yes, it is. 408 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:32,180 And so they're going to have an island in their city someday that's going to have this little 409 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:39,080 nothing in it, and that isn't very good looking forward for them, you know what I'm saying. 410 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:43,360 So, now that's just the outside first look at it in. 411 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:52,040 But water, the water issue is it doesn't sound like we're in a place where we can't supply 412 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,640 them the water. 413 00:32:53,720 --> 00:33:00,260 Well the question is whether we, or we want to get away from retail connections and 414 00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:06,660 wholesale water shall, or we still bound by honoring and retail connection, request. 415 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,760 What would it be? 416 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:08,980 I think so. 417 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,620 What would it be? 418 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:10,160 We're following. 419 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:11,340 We're following policy. 420 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,000 The policy says we can. 421 00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:14,360 Yeah. 422 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:19,140 It says we can, but we've been trying, I mean, I know, it's more ideal to be wholesale, I 423 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,340 guess, the direction that we can definitely. 424 00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:25,820 Does this create more problems for our district to have something like this on our victim? 425 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,980 You're going to have these come from time to time in different places. 426 00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:30,220 What does that do to us? 427 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,820 I don't like seeing the district in the situation at all. 428 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,380 And I talked to Vernon about this. 429 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,340 This is always puts us in a contentious spot. 430 00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:44,640 But our policy allows for when a retail customer is denied service by the closest town, 431 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,740 the next step is to come to us. 432 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 And Vernon's following that policy tonight. 433 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,320 But I don't like it. 434 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,240 I have no other option. 435 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,500 I mean, if it's not within an existing water utility, 436 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,300 but it's in your service district, 437 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:00,620 you're the ones I come to. 438 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:05,780 Because that's the only thing that's, you know, 439 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,940 the role of the district to provide water on it 440 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:11,040 where else to go and ask for water. 441 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:11,760 Kelly? 442 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,780 I'm just wondering. 443 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,020 It seems like the car before the horse a little bit here. 444 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:22,120 I mean this obviously needs to be rezoned and I wonder if we were to give a 445 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,180 wheel serve letter if we could put that contingent on the county coming back 446 00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:32,040 and stand that after a zone needs to take place because obviously that's going to 447 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,600 take place before we can do anything else. And that's my biggest grief with the 448 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,200 county is all Vernon has to come do this first and the county requires him to do 449 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,880 this just to move that that zoning process forward. 450 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,440 We put a letter though that we will serve letter based on that contingency. 451 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,000 Absolutely. 452 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,540 Is that an option that we can do? 453 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:49,940 Absolutely. 454 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:53,600 Or can you continue to put them approved in the development? 455 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,100 Yeah, I don't have a problem with that at all having it with a contingency. 456 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,540 But right now without water, he can't even try. 457 00:34:59,900 --> 00:34:59,980 Sure. 458 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Yeah, he can. 459 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:02,300 There's nothing he can do the way. 460 00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:05,000 Did you have to have a will serve letter at South Liverpool? 461 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,180 To the county. 462 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:07,360 From Liverpool City. 463 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,380 I know you have that from South Liverpool to Washington. 464 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,900 You might street. 465 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,460 Yeah, they're on the right there next to you. 466 00:35:12,580 --> 00:35:12,780 Yeah. 467 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:19,080 Yeah, our street but you have a will serve letters so why do the county before I allowed that to turn in with my pack? 468 00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:20,280 Yeah, so 469 00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:25,040 and to Brian's point we're not approving a development tonight 470 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:31,560 That he's still burning still got a lot of work to go through zoning and everything else the counties though on the wouldn't inevitably 471 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,760 approve the development not us 472 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:40,200 That's right. So if we enter into a will serve for a contract for a period of like a year like we just did 473 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,880 Yeah, exactly something like this. Yeah, yeah 474 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,560 The well-served that we just approved has contingencies just like Kelly's mentioning and 475 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,900 no one that it's first come first serve somebody comes in once water 476 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:55,140 While they're still in the planet 477 00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,760 It's too late. Yeah 478 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,660 So does any of this south water south of Deweyville make it all the way through 479 00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:06,780 Do you go all of it? 480 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,880 Huge portion of it. I 481 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,340 just think about what we're at that does make me a little bit nervous there 482 00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:29,700 But we have water to meet for obligations, correct? 483 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,360 Well, then I don't see. 484 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:33,880 We have a lot of choice to deny this. 485 00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:37,000 I think we should move forward. 486 00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:38,060 But I've made that motion. 487 00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:42,100 We make a will serve letter for the. 488 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:42,680 What is it? 489 00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:44,280 Sunset, Mr. Subhibition. 490 00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:46,940 For a year. 491 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,200 I'll make that motion. 492 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:53,040 I will second it. 493 00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:56,380 Can we add that contingency into the bridge of that building? 494 00:36:56,860 --> 00:36:57,080 Yeah, absolutely. 495 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,280 I don't want them to add that in there. 496 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,380 Yeah, I can help get them. 497 00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:00,520 It's all getting permitted. 498 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:05,880 Yeah, and all petitions like this is a conditional approval is what this is. 499 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:08,880 Vernon still as he moves forward, he'll come back before the board. 500 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,300 Just like we did at our last meeting with the Hawkeway bench. 501 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,380 If he gets further on in the process, he still has to come back for final approval from the board. 502 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,680 So this is not the last time we'll see Vernon. 503 00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:24,220 Unfortunately for everyone. 504 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,040 The point of clarification, I just pulled up that letter from a duty bill. 505 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:39,260 My proposal was introducing half acre zone and then re-zoning the two acres from the current ad 40. 506 00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:45,840 So I think it's the two that's in Deweyville, it was Ag 40, but the one, either way it doesn't 507 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,100 matter. 508 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:51,940 It would have to be changed to the zoning to allow us either way, I just read in that because 509 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:59,280 I thought I remembered the county piece we thought was RR2, but either way it's going 510 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,440 to be conditioned on them approving the development and having the correct zoning to do the development 511 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,420 like you said. 512 00:38:09,070 --> 00:38:10,610 There's a motion on the table. 513 00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:12,470 Any other discussion? 514 00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:14,110 If not, I'll call for vote. 515 00:38:14,350 --> 00:38:14,830 Colin Favour? 516 00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:16,290 Aye. 517 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:17,090 Aye. 518 00:38:18,070 --> 00:38:18,370 Opposed? 519 00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:20,590 Motion passes. 520 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:24,290 Thank you, Vernon. 521 00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:26,210 Appreciate your thanks for all your comments. 522 00:38:26,590 --> 00:38:27,150 I appreciate that. 523 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:33,570 We're to the Lower Bare River Watershed Plan Agreement. 524 00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:34,810 Amin Boswell. 525 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,520 I'm Amin Boswell. 526 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,580 I'm the Watershed Program Manager for the NRCS. 527 00:38:43,580 --> 00:38:50,660 for the state. I believe this agreement was presented to you before, and one of the 528 00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:57,100 issues that you had was it had just your entity on there as a sponsor, and so 529 00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:07,780 after meeting with Chase, Chance, we put all of the, there's nine sponsors on here, 530 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:11,620 so that way it's not just singling you guys out. 531 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,500 So what this agreement does do, 532 00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:19,820 just to kind of put your mines at rest a little bit. 533 00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:24,760 So the verbiage of here is basically the plan 534 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,640 that we developed for how many every year it was. 535 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,620 It just says, we hereby agree, so the NRCS and the sponsors, 536 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,260 hereby agree on this watershed project plan. 537 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:51,860 So that's the draft plan that was presented and that the works of improvement for this project will be installed, operated, and maintained in accordance with the terms, conditions, and stipulations provided in this plan and including in the following. 538 00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:58,200 So they basically this, what you're signing here is these are the terms that you would 539 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,220 be agreeing to when you install. 540 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:09,000 This doesn't financially tie you to anything right now, it doesn't tie you to any operation 541 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:15,380 and maintenance right now, but it does lay out for operation and maintenance. 542 00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:27,120 So for example, operation and maintenance, that it would be for 100 years, the project life would be for 100 years. 543 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,320 So those are the types of things you're doing. 544 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:41,880 In terms of the cost year, because we added all of the sponsors, basically what this table and the numbers that it's presenting 545 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:52,260 is just a representation of what the percentages would be, right, because these are so preliminary, 546 00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:58,860 they're based off of estimates. So they list the numbers of, hey, this is our best guess 547 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:07,800 of what this will cost, and these are the percentages or the distribution of funds among NRCS and then the 548 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,620 partners, but it doesn't necessarily say, hey, you're tied to this, this amount. So before 549 00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:19,660 then you would have to go through the design phase and then in the construction phase and 550 00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:25,870 that's what I want to point out here. So in number 11, it says a separate agreement will 551 00:41:25,870 --> 00:41:31,950 be entered into between NRCS and the sponsors before either party initiates work involving 552 00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:38,510 funds of the other party. Such agreements will set forth in detail the financial and working 553 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:43,210 arrangements and other conditions that are applicable to the specific works of improvement. 554 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:49,370 So, again, not financially binding now, just kind of laying out like, hey, this is what 555 00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:49,910 to expect. 556 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:56,210 These are the percentages, this is what the operation and maintenance terms look like. 557 00:41:57,010 --> 00:42:00,050 And so, that's it. 558 00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:02,750 Any questions? 559 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:07,430 We did, and that was our big question. 560 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:10,550 This looks a lot better than the sole sponsor we did, 561 00:42:10,610 --> 00:42:11,710 but there were a lot of other hidden balls. 562 00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:12,990 So, let's clarify. 563 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:13,530 Yep. 564 00:42:14,330 --> 00:42:15,730 We just want to bring it back before the board. 565 00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:16,810 Now, let's be clarified. 566 00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:20,830 Okay, yeah, we spent a long time on this thing. 567 00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:21,890 Yeah, it's time. 568 00:42:23,410 --> 00:42:24,450 So, now you've got what? 569 00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:26,270 10 different entities on the here. 570 00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:27,390 I think they're nine. 571 00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:33,650 Could you just tell me in a nutshell what some of the projects might look like in the future? 572 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:38,610 I don't know all the works of it. 573 00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:39,310 I'm going to say that there. 574 00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:39,830 Big much. 575 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:42,590 Tell me one. 576 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:44,290 You're guys. 577 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:46,970 There's like sections of the canal. 578 00:42:47,950 --> 00:42:51,270 The canal being pipe where there's a bunch of erosion. 579 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:52,330 Okay. 580 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:54,790 There's that. 581 00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:59,230 I think there's like levies and stuff down by the bird refuge. 582 00:42:59,930 --> 00:43:00,490 There's. 583 00:43:00,550 --> 00:43:00,770 Okay. 584 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:12,830 Okay, that's good. I just wanted to give you an idea of what's going on. 585 00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:13,210 Okay. 586 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:16,410 Well, a lot of pipe canals. 587 00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:17,050 Sure. 588 00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:23,090 We had a attorney review this. 589 00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:23,490 No. 590 00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:24,710 No, we have not. 591 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:30,450 You're comfortable with language, don't you? 592 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:30,910 Yeah. 593 00:43:30,910 --> 00:43:35,710 Like I said, this just gets us this far. 594 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,710 Once they actually go into engineering 595 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:40,270 and develop the projects and construct the projects, 596 00:43:40,750 --> 00:43:43,050 all the individual sponsors will have to enter 597 00:43:43,050 --> 00:43:44,870 into individual agreements within RCS. 598 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:51,310 Well, so the sponsors in order for us to go to construction, 599 00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:56,210 the sponsor has to have taxing authority 600 00:43:56,210 --> 00:43:57,890 and imminent domain. 601 00:43:57,890 --> 00:44:03,350 And so, that's why your entity is the Ed entity. 602 00:44:04,110 --> 00:44:11,310 So even when we come to the construction part, what that's going to look like is you're 603 00:44:11,310 --> 00:44:15,810 going to probably have some kind of inter-, into some kind of agreement which eat with each 604 00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:18,050 entity and kind of be a pass through, right? 605 00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:21,470 I mean, you're kind of like what you're doing for other things. 606 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:26,430 You're going to be the entity that is the pass through and you're going to have a memorandum 607 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:32,910 understanding or agreement that you're not financially you know that for this entity they're 608 00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:40,230 going to be the ones in charge of financial aid or over operation of maintenance so just 609 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:48,910 to be completely upfront. The county did something like this seven week well when I was a commissioner 610 00:44:48,910 --> 00:44:58,170 to rebuild all those levees and flood controls in Blue Creek and the county became the 611 00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:59,970 pass through. And then the 612 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:10,340 Then the service district out there collected the taxes to pay for the repairs. And so I do get it. I understand what you're doing now. 613 00:45:13,070 --> 00:45:14,190 Any other questions? 614 00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:43,250 our ag water management projects and so the cost share is 75% 25% on those 270 615 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:48,710 drive yeah up to 75 and then what is that how much in our sases with your already 616 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:54,950 player yeah so so like on other purposes flood like flood protection water 617 00:45:54,950 --> 00:46:00,750 prevention type purposes those are covered 100% through the NRCS but but 618 00:46:00,750 --> 00:46:02,770 depending on the purpose and I don't remember what all the 619 00:46:02,770 --> 00:46:06,730 purposes are for this particular project but I'm pretty sure 620 00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:10,230 majority of them were Ag Water Management. 621 00:46:10,610 --> 00:46:14,610 Under these projects become a ranking thing that 622 00:46:15,730 --> 00:46:18,270 are aligned with priority type. 623 00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:24,170 Okay so the plan includes all of the improvements 624 00:46:24,830 --> 00:46:26,850 that gets authorized by the chief. 625 00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:29,450 At that point we go into design 626 00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:36,250 and then it kind of depends on after design that's where you want to be is we want 627 00:46:36,250 --> 00:46:41,610 to go through design because that's paid you know when we get the kind of like a 628 00:46:41,610 --> 00:46:49,790 scoping fee from our from you folks that have gotten from an A&E from then we say 629 00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:56,770 okay yeah we cover up to a hundred percent of what was in the agreement and then 630 00:46:56,770 --> 00:46:59,650 And at that point when the design is completed, 631 00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:08,380 we then can phase projects. 632 00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:12,160 So there's eight different, you know, nine different entities. 633 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:18,520 They may not all have the ability to do it right then or at that time, so you can go 634 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,060 into phases. 635 00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:20,060 Okay. 636 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:30,960 So what do we need, Jay, a motion to discuss this before I went to the, this was the reason 637 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,400 in ways of revealing it. 638 00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:32,580 Yeah. 639 00:47:33,060 --> 00:47:33,920 And you're good with it. 640 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,980 You just need a motion to, 641 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,680 oh my God, this morning we'll go ahead. 642 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,260 That will have a very exciting agreement, right? 643 00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:39,680 The chairman. 644 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,540 Yeah, the chairman. 645 00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:41,260 I'm not the chairman. 646 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520 We'll go, the lower mayor of watershed plan agreement. 647 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,720 All right, we'll second that. 648 00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:49,500 It's been moved and seconded, all in favor. 649 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,360 Hi. 650 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:51,400 Any opposed? 651 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:55,120 Thanks, Evan. 652 00:47:55,260 --> 00:47:55,740 Thanks, Evan. 653 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,560 Appreciate you. 654 00:48:00,330 --> 00:48:04,730 We welcome Riggum City. It looks like Derek's going to... 655 00:48:04,730 --> 00:48:07,210 How about a good drink of water? 656 00:48:08,770 --> 00:48:09,850 It's a little stronger. 657 00:48:14,570 --> 00:48:15,050 For 658 00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:27,070 team, Mr. Chair, it gets sourced. 659 00:48:27,310 --> 00:48:28,490 Let's just roll right ahead. 660 00:48:28,650 --> 00:48:29,450 We can't hear you anyway. 661 00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:33,350 Chance has got my power point. 662 00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:36,510 Mayor Boats asked me to do a little presentation tonight 663 00:48:36,510 --> 00:48:43,430 about a proposal for Wrigam City has got for the Conservancy District we met last week 664 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:48,810 with your executive committee so if you view it's going to be a repeat tonight I'll go into 665 00:48:48,810 --> 00:48:53,350 a little bit more color I guess night for the public meeting. Pictures for me right? Yeah I'm very 666 00:48:53,350 --> 00:49:01,330 many so now I'm grateful to be here and chat about this kind of a cool unique opportunity maybe 667 00:49:01,330 --> 00:49:06,370 for the district and bring them City Corporation to discuss and we're excited about it so we're 668 00:49:06,370 --> 00:49:11,590 actually here tonight to discuss Brigham City Corporation mentoring into a 669 00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:16,890 short-term wholesale purchase agreement for some water out of the Harper Ward 670 00:49:16,890 --> 00:49:22,650 well that you guys have been successful in getting online less than a month ago 671 00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:30,250 right chance yeah so yeah I think chances excited the data about switch the 672 00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:34,470 other way and our board is on your own water system so it's been many years you 673 00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:41,110 go to the next one chance. So Brigham City right now we currently our water system currently 674 00:49:41,110 --> 00:49:48,570 serves about 20,000 and 23,000 residents. We have a max capacity roughly 18 to 20 million 675 00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:54,590 gallons a day of water through our system. 60 to roughly 6,800 connections. The reason 676 00:49:54,590 --> 00:50:01,570 I'm here tonight is Brigham City Corporation has just over 3,000 entitled residential units 677 00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:07,350 that are going to be coming online over the next five to 10 years and that 678 00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:15,190 growth is the reason I'm here today to discuss and I think I'll go into this 679 00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:18,830 a little bit more going to go to the next slide so if you look at the 680 00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:24,330 Conservancy District obviously it's been here since 1988 you guys should be 681 00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:28,630 fully aware that you guys are providing your retail municipal and industrial 682 00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:30,350 We'll supply it as you know Riverside, 683 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:31,570 Turing, North Gardening, 684 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:33,930 you'd call in St. South, Willard, et cetera. 685 00:50:34,830 --> 00:50:37,210 And you know, most of your connections are wholesale. 686 00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:40,670 And that's exactly what we're here to talk about tonight. 687 00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:43,530 And you know that we just participated 688 00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:47,470 in your county-wide, Doug County-wide master plan. 689 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:49,510 And I don't think any of us had, 690 00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:53,230 me included, had this conversation on our bingo card 691 00:50:53,230 --> 00:50:54,650 when we went through that process. 692 00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:56,930 But here we are chatting about it tonight. 693 00:50:56,930 --> 00:51:08,950 So good chance. I've taken a look at your guys' kind of whole self-pricing. You'll see this number in a minute, but you guys have been doing some rate increases over the past few years. 694 00:51:09,250 --> 00:51:21,370 I hope I got that right chance. Might be a couple of cents off on some of them, but we're right there at 493 and change in the current whole self-pricing per acre foot on a go-forward. 695 00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:24,010 and that's obviously the district's rate set by this board. 696 00:51:28,330 --> 00:51:31,730 Roughly 3% increase is what you've seen historically. 697 00:51:33,870 --> 00:51:36,410 Yeah, it's a pretty safer. 698 00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:41,790 We did some math over the last 20 years and that's what inflation has been if you averaged 699 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:47,850 out it's 2.7% and so the district board did instead of having to increase rates every year 700 00:51:47,850 --> 00:51:57,090 have public hearings they approved to do a 3% annual increase for 5 years up to 27 or 28 or is it even or 29? 701 00:51:57,610 --> 00:52:05,630 It was 5 years from 2 years ago. We should be able to see that man kind of go forward and think it's probably about 2 years ago so it's probably 3 more years. 702 00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:08,530 Yep, you got on that one. Yeah, good. 703 00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:16,290 But, you know, you look at the opportunity, like I think we're going to talk about 704 00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:19,930 here tonight and, you know, kind of the reasons for it, obviously, the bearer development 705 00:52:19,930 --> 00:52:24,850 something that was one of the biggest reasons that the bearer water conservancy district was 706 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:25,230 formed. 707 00:52:25,930 --> 00:52:29,870 Now, I briefly mentioned the county wide master plan that we would recently went through 708 00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:36,810 and I think every single one of us in cities incorporated even little developments of private 709 00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:41,870 in the northern side of our county realize that we all got to work together to make the future 710 00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:46,410 of this county work water wise and I think you know that that opportunity and what we're 711 00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:52,110 here to present tonight is is in line with what the intent of that is and obviously when you look 712 00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:57,950 at infrastructure and sharing infrastructure breaking cities had a lot of emergency connections the other 713 00:52:57,950 --> 00:53:05,030 municipal water systems with even way prior to the the better water conservancy districts exist 714 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:07,450 and all of those still exist today. 715 00:53:08,090 --> 00:53:11,490 And I think we can continue to do those types of things 716 00:53:12,370 --> 00:53:13,550 county-wide in the future. 717 00:53:13,690 --> 00:53:15,330 I know you guys are working on a lot of stuff 718 00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:17,230 in that kind of northern part of the county 719 00:53:17,230 --> 00:53:18,590 right now with Tremont. 720 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:19,930 And so go ahead, Chance. 721 00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:25,630 So the kind of the punchline here is our official request. 722 00:53:26,650 --> 00:53:28,830 And like I said, we kind of chatted about this 723 00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:30,530 in your executive committee a week ago. 724 00:53:30,670 --> 00:53:32,990 So I got some of these numbers kind of dialed in with Chance. 725 00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:38,170 but we're breaking cities request is 1.2 million gallons of water a day from the 726 00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:46,010 art of reward system. The capacity of that is I'll put that on social media 727 00:53:46,010 --> 00:53:51,970 just kidding. So 800 gallons a minute I think that chance was comfortable with 728 00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:57,330 that if that's changing to discuss that one I'm done chance but it's approximately 729 00:53:57,330 --> 00:54:04,050 23.6 acre feet of water a year. That would generate your current rates. That would be about 730 00:54:04,050 --> 00:54:08,330 a $662,000 yearly payment from bringing city corporation to the district. 731 00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:13,570 3.68 daily. Correct. I said yearly. Thank you. 732 00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:20,030 The cash or mouth is the yearly figure though. Yes, that's correct. 733 00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:22,930 3.68 acre feet would be daily, right? Yep, that's correct. 734 00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:23,550 Okay, all right. 735 00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:27,330 So the proposal when it's a little unique 736 00:54:27,330 --> 00:54:31,970 and we discuss this in our meeting last week. 737 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:35,110 So when you guys normally sell wholesale water, 738 00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:37,090 there's an impact fee associated with it 739 00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:40,230 and there's a long term commitment. 740 00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:43,370 Brigham City's request is a short term commitment 741 00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:46,510 and I'll discuss the reasons for that in just a second 742 00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:49,450 but we're asking for a five year contract 743 00:54:49,450 --> 00:54:55,010 active 5-year renewal short-term agreement for the purchase of the water and 744 00:54:55,830 --> 00:55:03,270 we are asking for a 50% reduction in the whole cell rate with this short-term 745 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:10,870 deal. A couple of reasons for that. First of all, short-term is not a long-term 746 00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:16,530 commitment, a long-term contract, which it may turn into. I discussed that with 747 00:55:16,530 --> 00:55:23,810 the executive committee last week that none of us know what the future holds, and none 748 00:55:23,810 --> 00:55:26,730 of us know the growth and development that's going to happen in our county. 749 00:55:27,330 --> 00:55:32,710 So we would like to leave that option on the table, want to go forward of potentially making 750 00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:37,590 it a permanent purchase, but not in that initial five-year term. 751 00:55:38,530 --> 00:55:42,610 Like I said before, the 3000-plus residential connections is the plan. 752 00:55:42,610 --> 00:55:50,470 And I think to provide a little color, and I'm going to jump out in front of this question 753 00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:53,890 because I got it in our executive committee last week. 754 00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:56,210 Bringing cities got plenty of water. 755 00:55:56,350 --> 00:55:57,030 Why are we sitting here? 756 00:55:57,490 --> 00:55:58,770 Why are we talking about this? 757 00:55:59,390 --> 00:56:03,550 Bringing cities got a lot of water because of a lot of people that existed long before me 758 00:56:03,550 --> 00:56:05,330 and the three gentlemen sitting there. 759 00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:11,570 Bringing cities, water system is what it is today because of people's foresight and future 760 00:56:11,570 --> 00:56:16,170 thinking and we feel like that's this is a continued step in that type of 761 00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:21,150 direction. We do have additional water rights available to put beneficial use 762 00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:27,190 but it is really expensive as you know to put some of those dollars on the 763 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:31,430 ground immediately to produce some of those water rights and get those to 764 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:37,250 beneficial use. Brigham City has currently got over $40 million out in 765 00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:42,490 projects with waters right now as we speak. I don't have the cash right now the 766 00:56:42,490 --> 00:56:48,370 drill and other well and this is a short-term opportunity for Brigham City and 767 00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:54,770 the district in my opinion on the can benefit both of us greatly. You know 768 00:56:54,770 --> 00:57:01,770 some of those benefits for both parties in my opinion are obviously cash to 769 00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:09,630 district immediately as we move forward with the purchase like this. I realize I'm sitting here 770 00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:14,810 asking for a discount on that and you know it's there's a reason for that it's because it's not 771 00:57:14,810 --> 00:57:23,570 necessarily an absolute have to but I will tell you that you know this I guess late spring or 772 00:57:23,570 --> 00:57:28,290 early summer we had a catastrophic failure of our spring source is coming out of my own way 773 00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:34,290 And there was about 30 days there that these three people and myself were looking each 774 00:57:34,290 --> 00:57:40,950 other wondering if we're going to have to do a slow to flow in Brigham City because 775 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:42,070 of what was going on there. 776 00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:46,610 Those things happen, especially when you have as many sources as we do, the summer before 777 00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:51,770 the biggest producing well in the county which Brigham City homes was down for about 90 days. 778 00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:55,230 And it's a big deal when you're lost a source like that. 779 00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:58,730 when you're when you're putting 19 million gallons of water out in your 780 00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:05,710 community and so this is for redundancy this is to help us for situations like 781 00:58:05,710 --> 00:58:11,310 this and we also feel like it's a unique opportunity for the district to work 782 00:58:11,310 --> 00:58:17,750 with Brigham City Corporation. I don't want to go over spilled milk frankly but 783 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:21,530 I've been in front of this board as it is representing Brigham City multiple 784 00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:26,210 multiple times in the past, and I think this is an opportunity for us to, as a district 785 00:58:26,210 --> 00:58:30,530 and bring them city corporations that put the past behind us and make some steps forward 786 00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:34,830 in the right direction. And that's why I'm here. I think a couple other things with 787 00:58:34,830 --> 00:58:41,350 redundancy. It's two ways. Chance understands this, and I'll give a chance, a chance. That's 788 00:58:41,350 --> 00:58:47,510 a tough one there. Sorry, a chance. To talk about it in a second, but that emergency connection 789 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:49,510 and goes both ways, not hard-per-ward system. 790 00:58:50,110 --> 00:58:53,550 Our ability to feed the hard-per-ward system is obviously there. 791 00:58:53,650 --> 00:58:55,670 We've been doing it for 40 years, 792 00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:58,770 and if something was to happen to the hard-per-ward system 793 00:58:58,770 --> 00:58:59,750 or the hard-per-ward well, 794 00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:02,130 it's part of this agreement that Graeme City 795 00:59:02,130 --> 00:59:05,610 would honor an emergency connection to feed that way, 796 00:59:06,350 --> 00:59:09,070 as long as Canyon ULA is working 797 00:59:09,070 --> 00:59:11,750 and the pipeline coming out of Manoway 798 00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:13,710 is not ready to wash 89 down the canyon. 799 00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:20,390 Yeah, so I feel like you folks have missed anything. 800 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:26,230 I think the chance probably to talk about the event that is ready for the well. 801 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:33,710 Yeah, as we talk about redundancy, we have developed a really good source in Harper Ward. 802 00:59:34,510 --> 00:59:35,410 It's a month old. 803 00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:38,530 We don't know, there's no way of knowing for sure. 804 00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:40,970 I mean we've done all the engineering and preliminary work 805 00:59:40,970 --> 00:59:44,890 and spent I think just under $5 million 806 00:59:44,890 --> 00:59:49,090 developing that source, hoping that it'll be a good source forever, 807 00:59:49,110 --> 00:59:50,690 but we just don't know honestly. 808 00:59:52,210 --> 00:59:55,610 So redundancy is always a great thing. 809 00:59:56,170 --> 00:59:59,630 The district is a whole as we operate water systems throughout the county. 810 01:00:01,810 --> 01:00:17,630 We are people's fallback in all of our other water systems, but nobody backs us up. That being said, this agreement, or working with Brigham City here, it would be the only water system that we operate that would actually have a fallback plan. 811 01:00:19,870 --> 01:00:25,450 Very soon in the future, I think the Harperward system will provide water to West Crinn water. 812 01:00:25,570 --> 01:00:27,390 We've already committed 200 acre feet. 813 01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:33,310 Additional 200 acre feet to West Crinn waters were a total of 400 acre feet total coming from 814 01:00:33,310 --> 01:00:33,870 Harperward. 815 01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:34,490 I see. 816 01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:36,050 He is not. 817 01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:36,930 He is not. 818 01:00:37,290 --> 01:00:43,230 He's still working through some things, but they began taking water out of the Harperward system. 819 01:00:45,090 --> 01:00:50,090 Their current contract out of Both will allow them to move half of it to a harbor ward upon its completion, 820 01:00:50,090 --> 01:00:53,930 which we began working through the operations of doing that. 821 01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:58,270 Krin City has expressed interest in buying water from the district in the future. 822 01:00:58,570 --> 01:01:03,290 They're not ready to do so right now, but they do have one source that they could develop, 823 01:01:03,390 --> 01:01:09,830 but then after that they're out, so they would rely on the Conservancy District for future water after that time. 824 01:01:10,790 --> 01:01:14,370 So the district's going to make out, well I guess we've got Honeyville too. 825 01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:20,310 Honeyville hasn't expressed any interest, did you have a chance to talk to Bruce at all about that? 826 01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:25,530 But in conversations I've had with Bruce in the past, he feels that Honeyville's okay right now, 827 01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:30,650 but we all know your pipeline can break coming out of the canyon and things can change. 828 01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:37,810 And so there is a connection that the district could supply water to Honeyville in an emergency situation or also. 829 01:01:38,590 --> 01:01:48,450 And so I think redundancy is extremely important as we enter into different agreements and essentially pushing this water throughout this entire valley. 830 01:01:50,630 --> 01:02:07,790 Is that- 831 01:02:07,790 --> 01:02:09,870 We've been deducted for it to get to freedom cities. 832 01:02:10,610 --> 01:02:15,570 Yeah, we've done some high-level modeling and just capacity stuff. 833 01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:21,210 We need to nail that down, that's, we just didn't want to get way into the weeds before we had these discussions. 834 01:02:21,570 --> 01:02:27,510 But we do have ample water to make these deliveries, as we speak, 835 01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:32,000 that I miss anything. 836 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:40,640 I guess, I don't think I would add chance in Fender and Krippen-Ranon, but this is a discussion to see whether or not the discussions move forward in negotiation and more. 837 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,640 discovery on this, not so much a decision and I don't know whether or not this should 838 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,740 be done at all. 839 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,620 Yeah, and a chance, if you want to talk about that, it sounds like we're going to need 840 01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:57,400 a booster station with that request initially, but a chance and I discussed it, I'll speak 841 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,800 for you, I guess, for a second, a chance and I discussed it, and we're going to need to spend 842 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,540 engineering money on figuring out how to do it, neither one of us wants to spend any money 843 01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:10,580 the board is not supportive of the idea so and like I said we've just took a 844 01:03:10,580 --> 01:03:15,460 high-level approach here we can be of some order to Brigham City immediately 845 01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:22,840 there's about a 12 psi difference between our two cities but this volume of 846 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:28,860 water would need pumping to achieve that so would that pump be Brigham 847 01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:36,340 cities or ours I would as I thought about in our conversations last week I think 848 01:03:36,340 --> 01:03:38,320 I think it would be hours where we're making commitments. 849 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,120 The pump station would benefit more than just Brigham City. 850 01:03:41,740 --> 01:03:44,880 It would benefit all the other cities that could take water from us in the future. 851 01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:49,840 So I would think it would be hours. 852 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,280 Where would that be at the south of the T that goes out 853 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,840 to the Korean or north of the T? 854 01:03:59,340 --> 01:03:59,840 We'd go north. 855 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:01,840 We'd go north. 856 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,360 The hydrology of it once the engineers both Brigham City, the engineers and hours, 857 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:12,540 Well, identify the most efficient location, but as I just roughly think about it, I'm thinking north, 858 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,620 a number of miles north of both the west Korean connection and the Korean city connection. 859 01:04:20,420 --> 01:04:29,110 Yeah, I do have any details apparently exactly what he's made with. I'm all in favor of cooperation with the Brigham City and working out 860 01:04:29,110 --> 01:04:31,390 something we do here. A couple of questions I've got. 861 01:04:32,610 --> 01:04:36,990 Why the short-term agreement that you'll how come you're going on your five or ten years? 862 01:04:36,990 --> 01:04:42,950 What you go plans just bring the city's got additional water. It's put beneficial use 863 01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:47,490 so you know you have to make it it's a financial decision essentially so 864 01:04:47,490 --> 01:04:52,210 there's a tipping point with with every project financially and you know 865 01:04:52,210 --> 01:04:56,470 does it make sense for bring-and-see corporation to keep paying the district into 866 01:04:56,470 --> 01:05:04,790 perpetuity for $331,000 a year or put 867 01:05:05,830 --> 01:05:11,030 I see 662 here, but the proposal is 50% of it. 868 01:05:11,470 --> 01:05:13,230 That was going to be the next question. 869 01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:20,010 How do we justify, I mean, I'm willing to negotiate and deal with it. 870 01:05:20,010 --> 01:05:22,750 How do we tell our other wholesale customers? 871 01:05:23,010 --> 01:05:25,910 How do we justify, we're like a better word that we're selling. 872 01:05:26,030 --> 01:05:28,150 Bring them to the earth and we ain't giving them back. 873 01:05:28,810 --> 01:05:30,630 But we've got to have a good reason. 874 01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:35,510 It's a tree mine comes next month and they want their 50% discount, the water we're selling 875 01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:37,430 in for your sand. 876 01:05:37,970 --> 01:05:38,770 Yeah, that's great. 877 01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:41,530 The water comes back and said, wait a minute, you told me this price. 878 01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:42,690 So I got an idea on that. 879 01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:49,570 I think this is great, but what you mentioned you had $40 million in water projects out there 880 01:05:49,570 --> 01:05:49,990 right now. 881 01:05:50,770 --> 01:05:55,030 Why could we do some kind of, I think we need to keep that, we set their wholesale rate 882 01:05:55,030 --> 01:05:59,150 at a rate and we need to be consistent with it, whatever that rate is, but maybe we could 883 01:05:59,150 --> 01:06:02,670 You could do some kind of a, you could, we talked about doing a project and maybe helping 884 01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:05,810 you in a project and maybe get your, your value back. 885 01:06:07,010 --> 01:06:09,670 Yeah, and I felt, we felt like we did to do something for breakmen. 886 01:06:09,870 --> 01:06:14,110 And that goes back to that history we're talking about concerns and then some of the 887 01:06:14,110 --> 01:06:14,910 feelings about it. 888 01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:19,870 But you're something in time to where we would help find some of the things that I'm saying 889 01:06:19,870 --> 01:06:21,430 is working on sound. 890 01:06:21,550 --> 01:06:21,710 Yeah, all I'm saying is working on sound. 891 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:26,610 Same for does, when it does is how are we going to explain that to anybody or other customers. 892 01:06:26,610 --> 01:06:38,930 I'm not ready to sell them the water, and if it's a short term deal that you don't need it, but I'm just wondering how I'm going to answer to somebody else, or wheelers aboard. 893 01:06:39,970 --> 01:06:42,070 If we got good reason, then I can defend it. 894 01:06:42,430 --> 01:06:44,670 Well, don't we keep the rate the same, and we help them out somewhere else. 895 01:06:44,670 --> 01:06:52,230 Well, I guess the request I officially made to the executive committee for even 896 01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:57,870 City will pay the $662,000 a year to the district. I'm asking for a reimbursement of up to 897 01:06:58,790 --> 01:07:05,450 $330,000 of $331,000 of that back for us to continue with our water projects for the terms 898 01:07:05,450 --> 01:07:10,170 of the contract. So 50% of it will be returned to the city for us to spend on water projects 899 01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:15,690 in the city. That's my specific request. That makes sense, because that goes to what 900 01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:21,930 you're talking about, Kelly. So what's your cost per acre on that water coming out of 901 01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:26,650 that new well? To produce it. I don't know yet, for sure. I haven't even got the first 902 01:07:26,650 --> 01:07:31,090 power bill off of it yet to know it. And especially at this level, that would be part of our analysis 903 01:07:31,570 --> 01:07:36,930 is to see with the pump efficiency and power bills. Yeah, that's one thing we don't want 904 01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:42,510 do is we dinner into this agreement but if we wind up with some additional 905 01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:46,870 costeter. Absolutely lunch and we might be on the backside of and that'd be 906 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:52,610 that part of the discovery as we if we choose to move forward then that's 907 01:07:52,610 --> 01:07:56,690 why we're just talking at a pretty high level. I can't write down a set 908 01:07:56,690 --> 01:08:03,390 to go through the screen. So going back the 23,000 right out to get gate and 6,800 909 01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:12,190 connection is what you currently have and 20,000, 18, 20, and per day an additional 3,000 connections 910 01:08:12,190 --> 01:08:15,850 that's what we're looking at in the next five to ten years. That's what we currently 911 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:20,530 have in title through zoning and approval of the city. Yeah, that was the word I wrote 912 01:08:20,530 --> 01:08:24,610 down in title. It title when it gets by taking what do you mean in title two? 913 01:08:24,910 --> 01:08:30,510 City Councils approved subdivisions and they're just waiting for construction. A lot of them 914 01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:30,990 We're growing in. 915 01:08:31,190 --> 01:08:32,390 You guys are growing pretty good. 916 01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:35,050 3,000 new homes in the next building. 917 01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:40,040 You know any building inspectors? 918 01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:42,120 What happened? 919 01:08:42,340 --> 01:08:42,680 What's the name? 920 01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:43,800 He doesn't expect any more. 921 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,400 I can't remember his name. 922 01:08:47,420 --> 01:08:48,860 He went to work for Chamber of the City. 923 01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:50,280 Oh, yeah. 924 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:51,400 Kirk. 925 01:08:52,220 --> 01:08:52,960 Or, I didn't know that. 926 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,420 Tim, I can answer your question. 927 01:08:57,620 --> 01:08:59,420 I think it's a board question, though. 928 01:08:59,900 --> 01:09:07,300 I don't think it's my role to answer the question of, I give you my opinion, of why it makes 929 01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:12,440 make sense to mean that Brigham City should get a 50% reduction in the purchase of temporary 930 01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:18,760 water as compared to Tremonton or somebody else's long-term commitment or the valve will 931 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,380 never shut off and their subject impact fees. 932 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:22,920 This is not that request. 933 01:09:24,740 --> 01:09:25,700 I'll look at it. 934 01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:26,460 I'm going to look at it. 935 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:26,840 It's going to be different. 936 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,580 Good reason to defend our decision if in fact we decided to go forward will have to defend 937 01:09:31,580 --> 01:09:31,860 it. 938 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:32,900 Yeah. 939 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,980 I mean at the point in time Brigham City would make this permanent if it did were subject 940 01:09:36,980 --> 01:09:41,020 every impact fee that anybody else is subject to and we're subject to the exact same rate. 941 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:41,580 Okay. 942 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:42,300 But that's the order. 943 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,340 Board for temporary. 944 01:09:43,940 --> 01:09:46,540 The shorty comes permanent and you're going to pay the same to the other body else 945 01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:46,700 though. 946 01:09:46,900 --> 01:09:47,400 We'd have to. 947 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:48,560 Yeah. 948 01:09:48,820 --> 01:09:53,700 That's the way this board is about to do your resolutions and ordinances and we'd be subject 949 01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:54,200 to the same. 950 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,200 What does it do? 951 01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,640 So if you guys get through some of these water projects that you're trying to accomplish 952 01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,100 right now. 953 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,220 I think it helps chance proof up on what's there. 954 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,240 There's a lot. 955 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,580 Yeah, the water's not proofed on at this point in time. 956 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:12,920 I don't think anybody in the entire county's got the capacity of a water system to flow that through it to actually proof that. 957 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,460 I think there's a lot of benefit to the district, in my opinion. 958 01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:21,660 But I think, I think, in the board should discuss that maybe not necessarily move myself. 959 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,740 How much time we've got to prove beneficial use to proof up on water? 960 01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:32,080 We've got, I'll very municipalities have four years or 40 years to do that. 961 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,660 plus a four-year extension. Yeah, plus a 40-year extension. I don't even get 40. 40-year. 962 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,240 Four zero extension. In other words, we won't be around when I am. 963 01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:50,940 It's more water out of my well. I want to prove up some more. Well, what? Yeah, it's not an action item. 964 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:57,480 No, we're just talking. But I, in my opinion, I think we should move forward with discussion 965 01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,620 You know, it's even works out now. 966 01:10:59,060 --> 01:11:01,480 That's much docent or motion 967 01:11:05,290 --> 01:11:06,250 on that or no. 968 01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:07,370 No, no, no. 969 01:11:07,410 --> 01:11:08,810 No action, no action. 970 01:11:09,070 --> 01:11:10,770 So it just gives me direction to begin. 971 01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:12,510 I just, I like what I'm seeing here. 972 01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:15,290 I think this is, you know, it got some good possibilities. 973 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:16,430 I really do. 974 01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:21,070 For the district and for the city. 975 01:11:21,530 --> 01:11:21,670 Yeah. 976 01:11:22,090 --> 01:11:24,950 It'd be a really first time in the history 977 01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:30,970 of the district to help the people who have contributed 978 01:11:30,970 --> 01:11:35,070 did most of it. Well, I agree. That's what I said. I mean, at least time we did something. 979 01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:47,090 Yeah. That's not 100% true though. According to money. Well, okay, whatever. 980 01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:49,930 Well, I'm 981 01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:50,070 just. 982 01:11:52,570 --> 01:11:56,030 And if you want to point something out that they've done in the past, I'd be glad 983 01:11:56,030 --> 01:12:04,030 here but it's been far and back of my memory I can't remember. I'm not disputing 984 01:12:04,030 --> 01:12:10,990 that. Brigham City's in the time I've been here has never came with an ask but 985 01:12:10,990 --> 01:12:18,630 apparently historically there were some things that were done that so how we 986 01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:24,230 phrase it I guess tomato tomato I don't know. Very good. More importantly they're 987 01:12:24,230 --> 01:12:34,610 and we welcome this discussion, certainly, with open arms and have a desire to work together. 988 01:12:34,990 --> 01:12:37,870 I don't see anything around with hooking, you know, and selling water. 989 01:12:38,510 --> 01:12:42,250 I do have some art learned with a 50% deal level. 990 01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:50,070 I think that's going to, I mean, especially where we have West Korean to the penny on their ask a couple of months ago. 991 01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:56,950 you know what I mean and we haven't and so I I don't think we can come off on the 992 01:12:56,950 --> 01:13:00,990 price I think it's just the price of the price but if we can help them in other 993 01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:09,830 areas like Kelly's doing yeah just dollars and cents yeah that's what our bottom line 994 01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:14,790 is to absolutely yeah make sure our bottom line is good and then do this thing with 995 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:21,430 the 50% pass through which basically that 50% of what they pay would be passing back 996 01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:23,750 to them and to help these projects. 997 01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:27,270 But then, but I mean, it's true, I'm going to come to the table and be like, we want 998 01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:28,750 50% of our money back to you. 999 01:13:29,570 --> 01:13:35,070 But I think we need to keep in mind their agreement, it's a different agreement, they're talking 1000 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:40,250 long-term, committed, and so there's... 1001 01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:41,870 But I mean, I'm not against it. 1002 01:13:42,290 --> 01:13:45,230 I'm not even against, I've just said it was, 1003 01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:47,170 but I'm really not against the 50% reduction, 1004 01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:48,730 either in principle. 1005 01:13:50,050 --> 01:13:52,150 I think it's just fine that the deal of rigidity, 1006 01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:54,550 but I'm just thinking everybody else is. 1007 01:13:55,390 --> 01:13:58,610 So where did we come up with a 50%? 1008 01:13:58,990 --> 01:14:02,750 I mean, could we go 60% or 75%? 1009 01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:05,590 I mean, or go 20%. 1010 01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:08,210 Where did you come up with a 50% is what I would like. 1011 01:14:08,210 --> 01:14:16,330 It's a financial analysis on our part on putting more infrastructure in the ground to drill them another well over a five or a ten-year period, frankly. 1012 01:14:16,930 --> 01:14:30,370 I thought there's a tipping point financially for us as a city that makes sense financially that if it's more expensive than it's going to cost me to do my own infrastructure, then that's where you're going. 1013 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:37,530 Like I said, and I think I think it's a unique opportunity, but no one's going to walk 1014 01:14:37,530 --> 01:14:43,550 in this door and tell you I'm going to write you a check for $331,000 a year, I think everybody 1015 01:14:43,550 --> 01:14:44,350 understands that. 1016 01:14:44,570 --> 01:14:49,170 Oh yeah, I just wondered why the 50, you know. 1017 01:14:50,370 --> 01:14:57,330 Well I think in principle too, we'll approve this, we'd have to, it would be very complicated 1018 01:14:57,330 --> 01:14:59,770 They're like you said, to do a 50% degree degree, so you can't. 1019 01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:22,120 But the way the books would work is we would receive payment of $662,000 a year from Brigham City, and in turn, there would be commitments that would be a separate line item. We have one in our books currently. It's called contributions to other governments. We use it to do projects all over the county. That's where that money would be returned, which would really clear up that issue of Tremont City coming back. 1020 01:15:24,860 --> 01:15:27,960 Paying the same rate, but there's an agreement that we are committing 1021 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:34,940 through contributions of other governments back to to Brigham City into the future for the length of this contract. 1022 01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:38,340 So Jamie, is this deal on? We get recorded on everything in a minute. 1023 01:15:38,740 --> 01:15:39,600 Yes, every time. 1024 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,240 You're always live Tim. 1025 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,720 Don't want to talk about Dave's funeral and come get lost. 1026 01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:50,700 No. 1027 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,880 We never get remote mics, so don't let Tim have when we walk in here. 1028 01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:59,320 It's a pretty good YouTube videos of that. 1029 01:16:01,780 --> 01:16:10,000 I think I've got some direction from the board that we can begin looking at this a little deeper 1030 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,700 and see what it's actually going to take. 1031 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,960 Is that an agreeance there? 1032 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:16,540 I think we're all agreeance. 1033 01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:18,040 That's why you move forward. 1034 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,120 I like it. 1035 01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:21,300 You want to go 70% off? 1036 01:16:21,460 --> 01:16:22,180 We can bet it. 1037 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:24,520 No, I have to say that. 1038 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,340 I have to say that. 1039 01:16:25,340 --> 01:16:26,320 You're not present. 1040 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:27,020 Let's do it. 1041 01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:28,700 Christmas is coming. 1042 01:16:29,140 --> 01:16:30,780 Christmas is coming. 1043 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,360 Well, I was thinking you pay 75%. 1044 01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:33,740 Okay. 1045 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,320 I was thinking you pay 75%. 1046 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,640 Yeah, I heard that. 1047 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360 That's the last way the 75% paid for. 1048 01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:46,560 Okay, anything else you've got, Derry? 1049 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:46,900 Thanks. 1050 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:47,160 Sure. 1051 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,020 We feel like we can do it. 1052 01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:50,500 We've got a direction here to move forward. 1053 01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:52,880 Thank you guys for bringing that to us, that's awesome. 1054 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:53,620 Start working. 1055 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,540 So we appreciate your time. 1056 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,040 Chance you and Mike go to work. 1057 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:58,240 My favorite thing. 1058 01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,200 Thank you. 1059 01:16:59,560 --> 01:16:59,840 hydraulics. 1060 01:17:00,820 --> 01:17:01,220 Our 1061 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,660 nexus just abandoned us. 1062 01:17:09,740 --> 01:17:10,320 No, we don't need it. 1063 01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:13,660 There's something I don't have anywhere. 1064 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,240 It was just as if it's needed. 1065 01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:16,020 All right. 1066 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:19,060 Thanks, Mayor. 1067 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:19,560 Yeah. 1068 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:20,980 Thanks for all of you. 1069 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,560 Good to see you getting remiss, you. 1070 01:17:32,910 --> 01:17:41,050 So we have no no need to go in close session tonight. So we're to the public comments section and I I see no public now. 1071 01:17:41,290 --> 01:17:49,630 Everybody's gone. No, we don't need to go into one. It's just it's on the agenda in case we did, but we're good. 1072 01:17:50,990 --> 01:17:56,490 so we'll start here with prestige reports and I don't have anything at the 1073 01:17:56,490 --> 01:18:02,430 moment I am trying to get a hold of Bruce Nelson to talk about that if he 1074 01:18:02,430 --> 01:18:08,530 needs water at all and he's been unavailable he's he's young and in love 1075 01:18:08,530 --> 01:18:12,930 give him some slack so I hear I talked to him to smile did he get married? 1076 01:18:12,930 --> 01:18:24,210 excuse me? It's getting married. He's not married now. A couple weeks. Okay. But I will get a hold of him and talk about that. But otherwise, nothing. 1077 01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:29,470 Mike. I don't have anything. Are you? Nope. I'm good. No. 1078 01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:32,990 I would call man. None. 1079 01:18:35,380 --> 01:18:39,400 I mean, where do you, Tim? No story is just a report. 1080 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,440 No, not a data center, just a report. 1081 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,400 No report that if you don't want to talk about the data center now I can let's say what 1082 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:50,840 of it. 1083 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:52,900 No, I don't mean to. 1084 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,100 I'm not sure yet. 1085 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,600 Well, it's in my area, but what a shit show. 1086 01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:01,000 Well, that's on this board. 1087 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,360 Who knows where that deal is going to end up. 1088 01:19:05,780 --> 01:19:06,860 That's a good question. 1089 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,160 Are they hunting water now? 1090 01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:10,120 Sure they are, but yeah. 1091 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,680 Yeah, since I can say that any more, I might be in any word of discussion. 1092 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,540 I've talked to anybody for two, three weeks, it's still on the agenda. 1093 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,580 It's obviously in my area, it's a hot button issue, which we all know. 1094 01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:29,570 So I don't know what that is. 1095 01:19:29,570 --> 01:19:38,410 They would throw their application to change you views with drawn, so it's just waiting. 1096 01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:42,070 I don't know what he's looking to put it back in again, but that's not going to happen. 1097 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:49,090 The hell it is, now, we're under the microscope, me, my boy's anything for a colon error 1098 01:19:49,090 --> 01:19:54,010 stock well, anything, anybody drive it down the road, somebody's, yeah I'm taking a picture 1099 01:19:54,010 --> 01:20:00,130 and looking at it's like holy moly, whoever dreamed of what's going on, but that's the deal 1100 01:20:00,130 --> 01:20:07,050 I just hope, well I'm the only way out there with the irrigation well, the several colonering 1101 01:20:07,050 --> 01:20:12,610 Well, like I said, it waits to see if still big if I think whether it's going to 1102 01:20:13,550 --> 01:20:15,310 materialize more likely will that 1103 01:20:16,010 --> 01:20:18,950 It could be longer in time than the plans 1104 01:20:21,860 --> 01:20:24,640 Okay, that's the end of my report. Thank you 1105 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:25,480 mission 1106 01:20:26,380 --> 01:20:30,640 Jamie, anything you need to straighten us out on? No 1107 01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:35,980 No, thanks for coming to get pictures. Yeah, everybody is tended 1108 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,640 Did you guys get them? Oh man 1109 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,000 And we'll have you put up there. 1110 01:20:40,060 --> 01:20:40,660 Now hold this. 1111 01:20:42,460 --> 01:20:45,560 I'm talking at social there, I figured I had an hour to kill 1112 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:46,480 and then I looked at my watches. 1113 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:47,540 By go. 1114 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:47,900 You're right. 1115 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,500 Surprisingly, from a canal standpoint, 1116 01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:57,800 we've gone on natural flow a lot longer 1117 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,840 than we ever anticipated with this spring. 1118 01:21:00,980 --> 01:21:01,600 That's been good. 1119 01:21:02,180 --> 01:21:03,320 It was longer than you thought. 1120 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:03,940 Yeah, really. 1121 01:21:04,180 --> 01:21:04,320 Yeah. 1122 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,140 When they go on barely. 1123 01:21:06,140 --> 01:21:08,960 like two weeks ago, I think, really? 1124 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:09,420 I made it. 1125 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,840 That's what I thought. 1126 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:14,780 So now what, that being said, now you're pulling out of the way? 1127 01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:15,420 Yes. 1128 01:21:16,940 --> 01:21:18,740 I didn't have lunch or dinner. 1129 01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:21,840 We could go to night with the governor of Idaho 1130 01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:27,440 and commissioner or dip, who the next guy in line is. 1131 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,460 We could lieutenant and governor Scott Bedke, 1132 01:21:31,180 --> 01:21:32,180 and quite a discussion. 1133 01:21:32,380 --> 01:21:33,820 They're actually coming back the next day, 1134 01:21:33,820 --> 01:21:38,680 40-minute conversation on several things, water, and then I was at the ICA meeting, 1135 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,480 I don't count them in chairman of the Idle Water Resource Board spoke to us yesterday. 1136 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:49,580 Jeff, somebody, Jeff, and another guy with him, and yeah, the water's a big, 1137 01:21:49,780 --> 01:21:51,560 I'm everywhere, and we know that, but you guys. 1138 01:21:54,270 --> 01:21:55,950 Yeah, I was trying too, isn't it? 1139 01:21:56,630 --> 01:21:56,830 Pardon? 1140 01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:58,710 I hope it's dry as well. 1141 01:21:59,250 --> 01:22:04,730 Yeah, the canal company's in a search for some management talent, 1142 01:22:04,730 --> 01:22:11,770 and we interviewed a guy from Gunnison that they had like 2% water. 1143 01:22:12,650 --> 01:22:13,510 That's all he's getting? 1144 01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:14,530 That's all they had. 1145 01:22:15,210 --> 01:22:17,610 When we interviewed him a week ago, they were done. 1146 01:22:18,450 --> 01:22:19,130 No water left. 1147 01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:22,530 I think the Ogden Valley their last day was Sunday. 1148 01:22:23,330 --> 01:22:25,690 I didn't get specific with the government brand a little bit. 1149 01:22:25,790 --> 01:22:28,810 We thought it was just, or just steal the kind I'm having. 1150 01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:29,950 Yeah. 1151 01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:34,610 Well, we didn't even turn on. 1152 01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:38,470 or we are ready to water, they don't really shut off that early water. 1153 01:22:40,510 --> 01:22:42,230 We're pretty blessed here. 1154 01:22:42,770 --> 01:22:43,370 Yeah, we are. 1155 01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:47,630 Actually, I was up in the hills up above Logan and up there. 1156 01:22:47,850 --> 01:22:50,610 You know, Beaver Creek is green, is green up there. 1157 01:22:51,190 --> 01:22:53,490 I mean, there's still some mud puddles here and there. 1158 01:22:54,750 --> 01:22:58,250 So they've had a little more water than other parts of the state. 1159 01:22:58,410 --> 01:23:02,710 And that's probably why the bear is doing so well because Logan really probably 1160 01:23:02,710 --> 01:23:04,150 had a little more in it than we thought. 1161 01:23:04,150 --> 01:23:08,490 Well, in my opinion, I don't know what a resource can. 1162 01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:11,690 I think then, January and December and January, we got them rains. 1163 01:23:12,010 --> 01:23:12,790 The ground wasn't frozen. 1164 01:23:13,150 --> 01:23:14,990 We got that water stored in the dirt. 1165 01:23:16,030 --> 01:23:17,210 You know, it's there. 1166 01:23:17,310 --> 01:23:21,890 It came and we didn't freeze till later, whether we were very frozen or in any way, but 1167 01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:27,450 what rains, we got a lot of moisture in December and January, and it's just still in the soil. 1168 01:23:28,450 --> 01:23:31,590 Instead of hitting and running off the snow, everybody weren't about that. 1169 01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:33,210 But yeah, lowest note back overnight, hold. 1170 01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:36,530 And here, two looming nets. 1171 01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:38,050 Well, OK. 1172 01:23:38,770 --> 01:23:40,150 Just need one more motion. 1173 01:23:40,830 --> 01:23:41,810 I'll move it to the urn. 1174 01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:42,410 Second. 1175 01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:45,690 Didn't take long to get that, though, really. 1176 01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:48,610 It's been moved in second, at all, in favor. 1177 01:23:49,210 --> 01:23:49,490 Hi. 1178 01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:52,590 Thank you for your attendance tonight. 1179 01:23:52,990 --> 01:23:55,750 Good time you're spending your thinking.