1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:35,500 Well, I'm going to bring a zoning board of repealed meeting order. We typically start with the pledge of allegiance if you could all stand and face the flag on the recycling pledge of allegiance, a pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the public, or which are stands, one nation, under God, and the visible, with liberty and justice for them. Thank you. 2 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,140 Thank you for coming out tonight. 3 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:50,880 As I said this, I was on a board of appeal meeting is held every 4th Thursday of every month. 4 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:54,760 Tonight, let me put this mask on. 5 00:01:01,050 --> 00:01:06,110 No, the item number three, notice that all notifications of the meetings has been published, 6 00:01:06,890 --> 00:01:10,830 posted and distributed among the compliance with the succuline and freedom of act. 7 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,140 Number four, the adoption of our, what was that? 8 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,740 The marsh meeting? 9 00:01:19,460 --> 00:01:19,800 The opposite. 10 00:01:20,260 --> 00:01:20,620 The agenda. 11 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:21,480 The next one. 12 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:24,420 Oh, adoption of agenda. 13 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:32,320 Do we have any leachings, everything that we need to do with the agenda before we make an 14 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:38,300 emotional objective, agenda, if not going to get someone to make a motion to adopt 15 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:39,220 the agenda? 16 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:39,960 Motion to meet. 17 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Uh, adopt the agenda. 18 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,740 Second, most are made in a second, all the favourable. 19 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,240 This past, 20 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:52,100 approval for January 23rd meeting. 21 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:56,220 I mean, you know, minutes for January 23rd meeting. 22 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,140 Obviously, we can't do that tonight because we don't have enough. 23 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,980 The board members, I think, Mr. Chair, is not here. 24 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:07,200 That wouldn't be because Mr. Cecil was not there. 25 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,400 So we don't have enough board members to meet. 26 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:11,360 So we have pushed that over until our 27 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:18,340 The next schedule board meeting is noticed that Mr. Gasperine is not here tonight. 28 00:02:19,220 --> 00:02:24,020 Whatever unknown reasons, you know, if he may return back, he may not. 29 00:02:24,460 --> 00:02:30,460 But if he don't, I'll just like to say that I, we, that this board really do miss him 30 00:02:30,460 --> 00:02:36,000 and appreciate his service air serving on the zoning board of appeal for the years that he has served. 31 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:44,300 Okay, we're now further ado, we're going to move on to item number six, which is C, R, Island Park. 32 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:48,040 You have court actions. 33 00:02:54,820 --> 00:03:02,980 It is our custom to give the applicant 10 minutes to present their case up to 10 minutes, I would say. 34 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:09,570 And, you know, any public comment up to three minutes. 35 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:12,290 Mr. Chairman, good afternoon. 36 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:15,510 If you don't mind, sir, I've asked earlier mass speak without my mask. 37 00:03:15,510 --> 00:03:25,230 Yes, that's fine. Thank you very much board members. Let me first say on Tom Taylor. I represent the applicant before you see our island park on there 38 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:38,170 But half I want to thank you all and the staff for making this meeting happen. I know this is not easy for anybody, but who genuinely appreciate it. It's been a long time since we were able to meet it. Hopefully we're all moving my 39 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:40,890 for what sense of enormous, if I thank you all for being here, 40 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:43,310 if going through all of the mask and the heat, 41 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:44,630 it's about it, it's killing me. 42 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:48,110 But I do thank you all, and appreciate you being here. 43 00:03:49,630 --> 00:03:52,590 Gentlemen, this is an application for a special use permit. 44 00:03:52,950 --> 00:03:56,370 This is a proposed residential facility 45 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:00,610 to be built as an assisted living and continuation 46 00:04:00,610 --> 00:04:05,450 of care living on ladies Island, the packages, 47 00:04:05,450 --> 00:04:12,750 As in front of you, it is basically being built on 8.9 acres at 171 Meridian Road, which consists 48 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:17,370 of 70 independent living units and 24 assisted living units. 49 00:04:18,070 --> 00:04:22,950 As you all are aware, three years ago, the Ladies Island Community Preservation District 50 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:30,350 tax ordinance was amended by tax to include specifically a provision that would allow 51 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:35,790 uh... in this ladies on preservation district these types of resident residential units 52 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:40,390 and i know that i'm not telling anyone here uh... this or news but i want to make 53 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:41,650 sure they're everybody realizes 54 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:45,890 as we in view for county like the rest of america 55 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:51,850 baby boomers age we are all trying very hard to work with an our communities so that 56 00:04:51,850 --> 00:04:56,310 those who do not feel they can continue to maintain a home in the ninety degree 57 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:59,850 bloggers, whether you can come in somewhere in due for county. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,820 Hopefully in the ladies island area where they have been in this neighborhood and continue their lives. 59 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,120 And we believe that this project is a very important step for be for county and for ladies island. 60 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:25,380 We believe it will be welcomed. And I'd like to ask James Ankins, who is the lead architect on the proposal to come forward and tell you just a little bit about the efforts that have been made to try to incorporate the design into the ladies island area. 61 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:30,000 specifically, Meridian Road and I believe that y'all will see and you've seen the drawings, 62 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:34,660 it's going to fit right up. So I'm going to have to say exactly, let's say just a few words. 63 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:41,500 I'm going to show this off as well. My glasses all up and I'm going to. 64 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:44,220 So again, my name is James Adkins with Cordacans Group, 65 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:47,760 I appreciate the time this evening to talk about this exciting project. 66 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:52,580 I think the biggest thing that we can stress about this particular project is this, 67 00:05:52,580 --> 00:05:57,720 When the client approached us with ideas, it's a very sensitive site. 68 00:05:57,940 --> 00:05:59,820 Here's a lot of things going on around it. 69 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:01,560 It's backed up to residential. 70 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,520 It's on the main thoroughfare. 71 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:09,380 This was a custom design that we intentionally and specifically created for this site. 72 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,760 This is not a prototype that came out of catalog of senior living facilities and put down here. 73 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:17,700 And the reason for it is the uniqueness of the infrastructure. 74 00:06:18,380 --> 00:06:21,120 There are some magnificent oak trees on this property. 75 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,260 one of them that we've centered the entire arrangement around us 72 inches, and so 76 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:31,140 not only do we want to preserve those, we also wanted to have this facility 77 00:06:31,140 --> 00:06:36,760 fit in and use them as opportunity to settle the project down to blend in the 78 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,060 environment and also act as a natural buffer. 79 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:46,640 As you can look on the site plan, there are probably 2 dozen 20 to 70 inch 80 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,960 votes here. There are three separate masses on this project. There's a single story, a two story, 81 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,940 and a three story component. We intentionally, if you see the V shape and the upper left hand corner, 82 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:03,380 is the single story structure. We intentionally put that to the back along Meridian Road, 83 00:07:03,580 --> 00:07:08,940 to allow it to blend in with more of the residentially scaled neighborhood. We intentionally rotated it 84 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,480 so that there was not a long linear facade along the main road and that as you move up and down 85 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,760 the landscape buffers are much more dense as you travel in that building the other way. 86 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:29,960 On the right-hand side is ladies Island Drive, located the two-story structure there, again being more of a commercial thoroughfare. 87 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,740 And then the bottom section is the three-story. 88 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:39,720 We focus that internally pushed it back and as you can see on the south end, really gets waves in that south property, 89 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,680 so that we can maintain all of those natural levels of buffering from the residential neighborhoods. 90 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:52,140 We've also made sure that we have buffered as some of the different old country materials in the design, 91 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,720 gave us shared hip-roots. Part of the plant-siding, expanded break break. 92 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,820 It's been a really nice wood-backed awnings, metal hoopats, etc. Again, it's just been into the community 93 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:08,900 and not feel like this alien ship landed in the middle of ladies eye on it. Thank you. 94 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:14,800 So you said near Meridian Road, that's the single story right there on near Meridian Road and the V-shaped. 95 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,300 Yes sir. So all of the other buildings are three stories. 96 00:08:18,020 --> 00:08:20,780 The far right block on the right hand side. 97 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,500 Which is on that. 98 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,300 The North South is two story. 99 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:32,040 And then the piece along the bottom there that runs east west is the three story that's pushed for this to kind of into the site. 100 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,300 If that makes sense. 101 00:08:39,660 --> 00:08:40,740 Here we go. 102 00:08:45,380 --> 00:08:46,700 Any questions for the gentleman? 103 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:58,200 Chairman, I'd also like to point out that effort has made to route as much traffic as 104 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,560 could be made on to 21. So the main entrance to this is on to Lady's Island Road, not 105 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:08,060 on to Meridian. There is an entrance on Meridian because the South wanted to flow through 106 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:17,820 type, but the main entranceway is on Lady's Island and he sees me. They again have made great efforts 107 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:22,840 as they talked about to save the tree canopy and to make sure that they've developed around 108 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,260 that. 109 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:25,520 So we do believe it is going to fit. 110 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,640 And Joe and also would like to introduce Josh in the Pearson just as he's raising his 111 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:30,860 hand. 112 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:35,800 Josh is with the developing company, came down today from Charlotte and if he needs to answer 113 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,040 any questions as delighted to, but he is excited about becoming a part of the community 114 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,580 also. 115 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,200 And Joe and I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have or we can move this along. 116 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,280 have been a traffic steady. No certain 117 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,860 estimate. The numbers are way below the 118 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:54,460 minimum of 50 generated per hour that they 119 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:57,460 would be. It's the peak is 25 in the morning 120 00:09:57,460 --> 00:09:59,820 and 35 trips in the afternoon. 121 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,400 According to the standards, and that's well below the 50 determines that the staff would want you to begin to do a traffic study. 122 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:16,940 So there's just really very little impact because as you can imagine, most of the people who live here are not going. They eat here. They recreate here. 123 00:10:17,260 --> 00:10:24,180 That's one of the reasons why the project candidly is so large, just because there are dining room, there are recreational facilities. 124 00:10:24,180 --> 00:10:26,960 But it does not generate a lot of trips. 125 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,140 This truly is about as light a residential footprint as you could have. 126 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:34,560 Lighter than any type of department complex, 127 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,420 whatever base, certainly lighter than any type of retail or anything like that. 128 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:41,300 It will be a fairly quiet neighbor. 129 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:45,260 So, you, you, you, and you said your main interest is coming in 130 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:46,700 off for maridian room. 131 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,480 No sir, off 21 on the back. 132 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:50,900 It's the double entrance there on the back. 133 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:51,380 Okay. 134 00:10:51,380 --> 00:10:59,820 And we believe that is the most all of the routine visiting traffic would come from that would come off of 21. 135 00:11:02,730 --> 00:11:03,690 Question the gentleman. 136 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Sorry to again I'll be here. Something does come up. 137 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Are you represented again? 138 00:11:34,890 --> 00:11:36,030 Yeah, this really quickly. 139 00:11:36,970 --> 00:11:40,010 With this being a thank you, Mr. Chairman board members. 140 00:11:40,450 --> 00:11:50,510 With this being a special use, application, your primary duty is to determine whether or not this particular use is appropriate. 141 00:11:50,510 --> 00:11:57,590 for this particular location in this particular spot. Again, as Mr. Parker, I mean, Mr. Taylor spoke 142 00:11:57,590 --> 00:12:05,490 to and Mr. Agons spoke to the traffic generation. Here's going to be very small. There's 143 00:12:05,490 --> 00:12:13,190 not require a traffic impact analysis because of the type of use that it is. Another key component 144 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:18,850 to this particular facility that I want to talk about and I want to commend. I would have said 145 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:24,110 have they not been here this evening, so I want to make that clear that we work with our 146 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:30,690 ladies island fire folks to make sure that the public safety aspect of this particular 147 00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:38,870 design was very appropriate. Basically fire access, potential all the way around the building. 148 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:46,990 So if there's any situation that fire department can access, the facility from practically any 149 00:12:46,990 --> 00:12:54,210 location and get to it. So to staff, recommend approval of it. To you all, this is in an 150 00:12:54,210 --> 00:13:00,450 appropriate area of Lakeies Island. As you all may or may not be aware, we have spent a lot of 151 00:13:00,450 --> 00:13:06,050 time over the last couple of years doing Lakeies Island and planning and specific plans for Lakeies 152 00:13:06,050 --> 00:13:14,990 Island, which calls for variety of uses and mixes of densities and residential types. The one 153 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:20,270 concern that I would have on this particular situation is I think there's a historic access 154 00:13:20,270 --> 00:13:23,770 on 21 that folks may be using to get to their homes. 155 00:13:24,430 --> 00:13:29,130 We would either need that adequately dealt with or that protected in some ways, 156 00:13:29,650 --> 00:13:34,310 so maybe someone is here to address that from the community, 157 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:35,910 but that would be an issue. 158 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:38,290 I think the name of that route is pooped. 159 00:13:38,810 --> 00:13:43,370 So we would want to make a sure word that we, whatever your approval would be, 160 00:13:43,370 --> 00:13:48,790 would indicate that that access would have to be available to the folks that should 161 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:52,710 this development interfere with that. I don't think it does. I don't think the property 162 00:13:52,710 --> 00:14:00,150 owners would do that intentionally or unintentionally, but that would just be one concern 163 00:14:00,150 --> 00:14:05,370 that helps. But for the most part, staff recommends approval without one caveat that we 164 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:07,370 and pay attention to you. 165 00:14:08,090 --> 00:14:09,570 Thank you. 166 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:10,770 I still have a question. 167 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:12,610 This is Taylor. 168 00:14:13,010 --> 00:14:13,790 Thank you, Mr. Green. 169 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:21,040 What is your plans for buffering this property? 170 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,320 I mean, obviously we have two stories here, 171 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:28,640 and I don't want any residents behind this to be, 172 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,640 you know, concerned about, you know, 173 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,400 folks on the second level looking down 174 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,200 into on the air property. 175 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,560 So what is, well, what are your plans, 176 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,220 I guess this is where he comes in it. 177 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,580 I would like to ask Mr. Ackens if you would mind because that has been a primary concern 178 00:14:44,580 --> 00:14:47,600 to the architects and the developer. Would you mind if he addressed that? 179 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:48,080 Yes. 180 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:48,960 Thank you. 181 00:14:57,340 --> 00:14:59,960 I'd like to get a transform from my glass. 182 00:15:01,220 --> 00:15:13,040 Absolutely, actually with this design and this image, and I brought this exhibit, and certainly get a little close to your past, and I have some 11 by 17s that makes it easier. 183 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:23,500 But the buffering and the positioning of this property has been thought through and during the SRT process we've actually increased the buffering distance as well as the density of these. 184 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:27,640 So with all the meridian roads, certainly from the residential perspective, 185 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:31,800 increased the suffering by pulling the building away from here, 186 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:36,340 and maintaining, there's a 48 and a 44 live oak here. 187 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Again, from a height perspective, we felt like maintaining all of the existing, 188 00:15:40,420 --> 00:15:43,460 or majority of the existing trees, which are significant, 189 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:47,480 are going to provide a lot of existing height buffering, which is important. 190 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,760 And then we will augment that with additional street trees and lower story 191 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,360 and ground covering for the lower levels of the buffering. 192 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,320 Also, with pulling this building back, we've maintained all of this 193 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,840 as a 34 or 28, 32, 21, 40 inch oak tree here. 194 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:08,500 So, along the existing, we've just pulled this whole building back 195 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:09,940 to maintain all of that buffering. 196 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:15,120 So, we really take advantage of the existing natural hierarchy, 197 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,320 which you wouldn't get if you were planting a new buffer. 198 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:20,900 And then added, you can see the green circles and everything 199 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:25,900 throughout. And then there's a lot of things existing. We've located the 200 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:33,200 Retentionary here and then increase the buffering, all of the green and red and everything's all new. 201 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:33,840 New buffering. 202 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:41,480 So a lot of the existing buffering you guys are, you guys have a massive amount of new buffering coming in there. 203 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,160 So at least we've got a lot of good care of it. And one thing about the buffers is 204 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,240 when they're like I mentioned when they're new, 205 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:50,360 you don't get a lot of that height. 206 00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:54,280 And so we've really taken care of even a pair of 18 inch. 207 00:16:54,340 --> 00:16:55,920 And then this is that 70 inch light oak 208 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,900 that we've centered this whole development around. 209 00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:04,480 So, here regardless of the buffering, 210 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,200 what is the minimum distance between any upper level, 211 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,180 window, or whatever, to the nearest residence? 212 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Do you have that? 213 00:17:14,380 --> 00:17:19,740 I know that this is over a hundred feet of distance just to the property line. 214 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,320 These structures are down here. 215 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,400 There's no structures that are right up on the adjacent property lines, either same with 216 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:26,560 here. 217 00:17:27,020 --> 00:17:30,720 So over here, again, 50, 100, there's at least a hundred feet here. 218 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,580 This is probably the closest corner, but it's pulled away in next the marine road. 219 00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:39,160 And I believe that's 50 feet over there. 220 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,160 So we've really tried it to center this and then work around the trees. 221 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:46,720 All right, lots of Mitchell. 222 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:51,060 On that bar length side, you don't have much buffering over there, do you? 223 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,580 This is already a pretty densely wooded area with a nod shape. 224 00:17:55,780 --> 00:17:57,940 So there's a lot even though it's not on the property. 225 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:03,300 This wedge here is very densely wooded from a buffering perspective that, 226 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,840 problems and purposes, undevelopable, due to setbacks. 227 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,340 And then we've come in. 228 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,360 There's a 13 inch light over here, and we've added some 229 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:11,820 understory. 230 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,060 And then right at the entrance, there's quite a 231 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:16,040 bed of existing vegetation that we're maintaining. 232 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 You said that piece of property and JSON too is 233 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,720 undevelopable? 234 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:20,760 Well, not not undeveloped. 235 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,360 This is this triangle. 236 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,560 I mean, you couldn't build anything here. 237 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,160 And there's a lot of existing vegetation right there 238 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,380 in that corner from a screening perspective. 239 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:32,360 About the rest of it above that. 240 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:38,100 It's all densely wooded, but when somebody wanted to come in and clear those trees and build near, could they do it? 241 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,360 They certainly wouldn't be able to also eliminate dirt buffers in landscape. 242 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:45,720 They would have the same requirements on their side when they went through the process. 243 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,760 And that's why, again, we've kind of maintained this as a two-storey structure rather than making that a three-storey. 244 00:18:57,830 --> 00:19:04,830 Where is the Pope the historic Pope rule on that right there? Where's that? 245 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:06,570 That is a good question. 246 00:19:06,570 --> 00:19:09,370 Good question. 247 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:14,530 It's adjacent to the curved up there on 21. 248 00:19:14,970 --> 00:19:16,870 You can kind of see it down in the bottom. 249 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:20,170 It's a lower right part of the screen. 250 00:19:20,610 --> 00:19:21,590 It's a lower right part. 251 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:22,470 It's hard to see. 252 00:19:22,810 --> 00:19:25,990 But you can see there are two main entrance here exit. 253 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:34,310 There is a small curb cut right below it with a couple of monuments on the sidewalk right here. 254 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:36,330 So it's to the south of their property. 255 00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:39,910 But it comes up through here that we want to. 256 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,940 So what are your plans to make sure that they still have access? 257 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:47,940 I can address that on their Hoover for four hours. 258 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,480 So one's here. 259 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:52,440 And you post those that didn't make so that you can be picked up. 260 00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:56,120 It was determined that Coab Avenue was just a private road. 261 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,900 It always had a sign, but when the attorneys went through and did all the research. 262 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:13,820 It was collaboration with the county. It was determined at Pupro, which is a private road. So they have it in the since this plan has been developing going through the SRT process. They have eliminated Pupro. 263 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:28,610 So they have all the access agreements with the two residential, I think it's middle ten. She has access from her normal driveway and then the other property. 264 00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:32,310 White, they have access off of Meridian. 265 00:20:33,130 --> 00:20:35,950 It was the term that was never truly a road. 266 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:38,550 Would you say it was a sign out there to say this? 267 00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:40,950 Yeah, it was a sign for all those years. 268 00:20:41,170 --> 00:20:42,330 Everyone thought it was a road. 269 00:20:42,790 --> 00:20:44,890 But then when they did the research, 270 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:46,810 it was a term that was never a right away 271 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:48,650 for that property going through. 272 00:20:49,670 --> 00:20:50,950 And you say county council, 273 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:51,730 determined that? 274 00:20:52,550 --> 00:20:53,050 Who did that? 275 00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:54,230 Who's the county? 276 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:54,930 The county. 277 00:20:57,750 --> 00:21:03,730 And there's, well, it was with Eric, there are probably our, it was probably our 278 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:04,450 highway football. 279 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:06,170 Yeah, so it was our right-of-way folks. 280 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:06,850 Traditions. 281 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:11,550 Do you know what John was working on? 282 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:16,370 I can remember this specific name, I know that it wasn't in the, in the GIS level. 283 00:21:18,350 --> 00:21:18,830 Yes. 284 00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:24,690 But did they have all the documents, they've recorded the new plat and everything without 285 00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:31,410 that the Pope wrote going through that property because it was just essentially just a private 286 00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:38,850 drive. Was the sign on the county Pope wrote sign or was it a private Pope wrote sign? Is it 287 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:47,290 blue? Is it blue? Yes. I think the point for me here is that this has been cleared by some 288 00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:53,850 county administration. Yes. It's been recorded. Yeah. All this survey was the ones that recorded 289 00:21:53,850 --> 00:22:01,650 the plaque that showed it not being one the property. And then they got the sign off of 290 00:22:01,650 --> 00:22:10,470 booth, White Ann Middleton. One as well. And the residents of these properties, they have 291 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:12,910 access from the existing roads. Of course, 292 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:18,870 no infringement upon any rights there. No. 293 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:29,230 So, correct me if I'm real, so that hope wrote to access this property and that's in question. 294 00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:35,110 Would you have to eliminate that hope wrote to access the old property? 295 00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:44,230 Well, because temp row was off of our property, down here was on to a Milton's property, it came 296 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:49,150 through that little triangular piece, came up basically filed this thing and then came out 297 00:22:49,150 --> 00:22:50,190 at this intersection. 298 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:54,310 So, all we're doing is reworking it to have it on to our property. 299 00:22:54,430 --> 00:23:00,210 Because the of T required us to do that instead of having it go through a Milton's property. 300 00:23:00,210 --> 00:23:04,970 So, the Pope road actually came on to your property as we can say. 301 00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:07,650 But besides, it's a little tiny trying it. 302 00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:09,430 It's completely on our property. 303 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:10,870 Okay, that's what you see. 304 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:15,570 Mr. Jim, engineers in some kind of coal. 305 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:19,910 I want to show the board as they asked for a minute ago. 306 00:23:20,430 --> 00:23:26,030 We would expect that this would be a condition of the approval, hopefully, of this permit. 307 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:34,130 And we will, in a lot nicer terms, make sure that those residents have access to easily 308 00:23:34,130 --> 00:23:35,630 come and go from their property. 309 00:23:36,170 --> 00:23:38,870 I did not mean for it to sound as if that road was promised. 310 00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:40,810 So we did not do that, sir. 311 00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:44,450 And we're going to make sure that the people who have been there for a long time and 312 00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:48,330 he will use that have easy access to come and go as they need to it. 313 00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:50,450 We'll leave us what Eric will ask him about. 314 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:52,810 Don't be such a dang engineer. 315 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:58,270 And we'll question sort of that in the engineers. 316 00:24:04,060 --> 00:24:05,020 All right. 317 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,920 And we'll question for the camera. 318 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:09,720 Public comment. 319 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:23,650 If anyone, if anyone want to speak on this property, there's a form that we need you to fill out. 320 00:24:23,890 --> 00:24:29,590 I mean, I have Margot Middleton here now, but if anyone else want to speak there's a form that 321 00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:36,550 If you can see Tamika fill out and she'll bring it to me and they'll call you name up that way you can have time to say. 322 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:38,870 But are you Miss Margaret Miss? 323 00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:40,790 Well you might as well come on up Miss Middleton. 324 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:46,490 Yeah about the three minutes to say what you have to say. 325 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:56,420 Good evening, how are you? 326 00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:57,040 How are you going? 327 00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:57,980 Yes. 328 00:24:58,340 --> 00:24:59,960 I'm not the brightest person in the world. 329 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:10,440 But I do want to ask some questions that I understand correctly that my blood is what they have in the sun. I can't talk with this. 330 00:25:10,740 --> 00:25:13,000 That's good. So far enough for me everyone. 331 00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:14,440 All right. 332 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,660 For my understanding, what I have signed over the memo ready is that they are banding in pro-growth. 333 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,020 But I go to the access to give them a lot of my driveway rise. 334 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,740 That's the plan. 335 00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:33,760 That's fine. I mean, we can ask those questions now to make sure you have access to your residents. 336 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:40,940 Okay, and the pork road, now that I have the signs of people for them to come over onto my property in order to get to there. 337 00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:42,920 Drive away. 338 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,140 So, there's big trees around this front, follow that road, there's just another road. 339 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,940 You come through and never heard the pork road until it's always been there. 340 00:25:53,940 --> 00:26:05,460 It's open with Meridian Road and like I said, I've signed the tables I just want to make sure that I have access to get in and out and that road does not exist anymore. 341 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,880 That's what I'm pleased. 342 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,160 That's what we're understanding. 343 00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:15,080 That road does not exist but they will ensure that you have access to your property. 344 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:17,340 Thank you. 345 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:22,120 Yes, you heard your highway, offered ladies, how many things are there to take that? I can clearly hear your names. 346 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,040 I trust him. 347 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,440 It was tailored to the people who helped access, you could have that. 348 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:30,120 I don't know where I'd like to see him in with a piece of one of those. 349 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,060 Wait, no, I'd like to have him in. 350 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,640 I don't know where he was, but they just put him on the right arm off to the shore. 351 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:39,240 I just wanted to make sure all that. 352 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:39,700 Yes, ma'am. 353 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:41,480 I saw a tree, I figured everything was okay. 354 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:42,840 But why? 355 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:43,740 Thank you. 356 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,500 any more public comment 357 00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:55,760 you can you have the phone fill up okay if you can 358 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,120 fill that phone button then you can come 359 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:10,210 out chief it seems like you have a lot 360 00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:16,170 of credibility over there you have a lot of credibility in that area as well 361 00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:19,170 That's a good thing. 362 00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:23,670 A lot of the people who are performing in case I heard those people. 363 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:27,150 Do 364 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:46,620 you want to speak again? 365 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,220 Well, we bring this public comment to a close. 366 00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:54,340 Gentlemen, do we have any questions for the county or the applicant? 367 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,900 I would just like to make one comment. 368 00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:16,900 This has been reviewed by staff and Mr. Greenway and my understanding is that the architectural design meets all of the conditions of the community development code. 369 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,780 Is that correct? 370 00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:27,480 We have no questions for them. 371 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:35,980 will it get someone to make a motion on this scale, that will be good, get it seconded 372 00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,980 in the fourth. 373 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:46,440 I'll make a motion, we'll go ahead and prove it, pending those things we talked about with 374 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,420 that access room into the property, mismitting the middle to the property. 375 00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:59,600 The President said if you spoke about the Pope Rome, we'll be able to have access to the new world worth. 376 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:00,840 Yes, yes, sir. 377 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:04,900 All right. 378 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:07,580 Can you kind of accept our provisions? 379 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,120 Yeah, look at that. 380 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:10,980 That's all I'm just going to condition. 381 00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:14,540 No, that we can put the conditions into your motion. 382 00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:18,810 To me, start that over. 383 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:24,470 Mm-hmm. 384 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:27,950 Well, the SRT recommendations for special use permit, 385 00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:33,090 it won the fire marshal approved prior to SRT's final review. 386 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:37,290 The applicant shall ensure the buffer along the east side of the property 387 00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:38,590 is heavily planted. 388 00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:45,310 And three SRT reduced to 50 foot buffer along the reading road to 30 feet 389 00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:49,250 in order to provide fire access along the east side of the property. 390 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:59,950 For applicants shall address the access separation on ladies on drive in the existing access to the adjacent property in the list. 391 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,740 That's one of his projects, his subject to the design review work. 392 00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:09,420 You're going to have to book roll with residents, make sure they're sure. 393 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,440 The second, number four, that was number four. 394 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,280 That's the suggestion, perhaps, okay. 395 00:30:17,420 --> 00:30:18,660 All right, motion's been made. 396 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:19,540 Second. 397 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,480 We've been properly made in second it. 398 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:28,670 All them people are up to motion. 399 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:31,940 Motion's been passed. 400 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,920 So, we guys have you, especially for me. 401 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:41,150 I don't know if you'll find you. 402 00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:41,990 Yes sir. 403 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,100 I don't know mate. 404 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,220 Mike, we've around a couple of days. 405 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:55,120 Okay. 406 00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:55,480 Okay. 407 00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:56,000 Okay. 408 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:12,120 Okay. 409 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:13,140 Okay. 410 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,300 Okay. 411 00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:16,420 Okay. 412 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:17,740 Okay. 413 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,160 Okay. 414 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,020 Okay. 415 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,680 Okay. 416 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,660 I'm going to take a look at the slide. 417 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:35,160 I can also take a look at the slide. 418 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Just trying to see it straight out of that. 419 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:37,640 I understand. 420 00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:39,980 We're going to. 421 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,680 I'm going to show you a little bit of the flow. 422 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:42,920 I'll take a plan. 423 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,300 You need even gentlemen. 424 00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:47,860 My name is David Gaffs, working on gas when the associate's. 425 00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:49,360 It's not been working with mine. 426 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,540 We were all this property for several years. 427 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000 What is it about a 50 acre piece of property? 428 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:57,320 And off the very end of it, there's a five or six acre. 429 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,860 that's over there. 430 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,140 There's like a 20-foot strip of marsh. 431 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,880 We've got to get to five and six-acre track. 432 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,680 We've got all the permits. 433 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,600 We just got penetrated buffer to get to the bridge 434 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,380 of the integrals. 435 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,900 The county has recommended approval for five 436 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:17,600 of the American Districts. 437 00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:19,200 If you got any questions, we're here today. 438 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Thank you very much. 439 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,860 Staff recommends approval this request. 440 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:38,840 Again, it's a central access. 441 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,460 So I've gone out to the property personally, 442 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:44,780 not seeing any issue in the district or request, 443 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:48,080 just so I don't even have to stop to approve, 444 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,460 as you would say, the kind of decoded. 445 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,720 So this wouldn't have any effect on, well, 446 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:57,320 I guess I can act so, this is a gasp. 447 00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:03,600 This bridge, it wouldn't have any effect on any, 448 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,020 if I don't know how, what's the depth, what five feet, 449 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:11,840 that that for this high time. You got to build high enough for the mark grass is it's literally 450 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,480 it used to be high ground. They kept driving track or ceiling into the development of a model. 451 00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:23,440 So no one can really chop it. No, no, no, no. We have to go to the US to the Coast Guard to get a 452 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,480 brief permit. So they have agreed so we touched all the buttons. And it does affect navigation or 453 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,920 Thank you so much for any questions for anyone, guys. 454 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,420 We need to prolong it, I guess. 455 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,100 Any public comment? 456 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:46,350 No public comment right now too close. 457 00:33:47,530 --> 00:33:50,870 Gentlemen, do you want to go ahead and just, since we have any more questions, 458 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:53,030 we want to just go ahead and make a motion on this? 459 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:56,080 I'll make a motion. 460 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:06,000 We have proved the special use permit with the conditions recommended by the SRT Fire 461 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,140 Marshal Approval and playing back for an entry's removed within the river buffer and any 462 00:34:11,140 --> 00:34:13,040 disturbed area outside of the buffer. 463 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,880 Welcome to the main, seconded, seconded, closing the main, probably the main and seconded, 464 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,920 All in favor, 465 00:34:23,350 --> 00:34:24,530 boys and fast. 466 00:34:25,670 --> 00:34:27,330 We're going to go ahead and take a break. 467 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:34,470 All right. 468 00:34:37,150 --> 00:34:38,090 I'm in the M10. 469 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:39,530 What's that? 470 00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:42,080 Lennon investment, LLC, care of. 471 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:44,710 Law office, the Thomas C. Taylor. 472 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,740 Mr. Mark? 473 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,420 We need to gain out. 474 00:34:55,580 --> 00:34:56,960 Thank you for letting me come off again. 475 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,480 This one I believe will be on a little bit shorter. 476 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:27,080 Our represent the LNL investments LLC. This is a proposed development of a new Kia dealership. It is going out on Cecil Reynolds Road, right off near where there is the existing tractor supply, and right out here the miracle mile already, O.C. and everyone else is out there. This is a zone C5RCMU or regional center mixed use. 477 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:34,980 We are here today because our 3.6 acre track, which is run in the shadow of the large 478 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:40,480 soil that was built by a CDOT when they built a giant intersection there, has caused 479 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:48,100 a non-natural wetland of form of about 0.889 acres, and we are here because we are making an 480 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:54,640 application for a hardship variance to allow us to fill up to one half of the acre of that wetland. 481 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,700 So, we can adequately have the footprint that is required for the standard key of the worship. 482 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:07,260 Mr. John Lee, who is here and who owns the worship, is right here, and he's come down from 483 00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:11,640 Charlotte, Charlotte, or North Carolina, not Charlotte, and Ashley, or Charlotte. 484 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:12,580 Got it. 485 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,660 Be here today if there are any questions and I appreciate him coming down. 486 00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:22,820 But this is staff endorsed, and it meets from our perspective, 487 00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:26,100 of German all of the requirements for a hardship variance. 488 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,500 The main thing that I like talking about, 489 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:30,660 because it's so hot, is just to reinforce, 490 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,660 that this is not a natural wetland whatsoever. 491 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,660 There are no native species of anything in there 492 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:41,420 that staff or anyone else has said we need to protect 493 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:43,860 and the proposed to fill it in, 494 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,040 comes, of course, under the Corps of Engineers' 495 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,220 precedent where we will do alternative credits 496 00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:51,840 for other wetlands projects in other areas. 497 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:57,000 And we would ask the board move forward with the granting of the hardship variance, please. 498 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,860 I think the staff will be in support. 499 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:05,300 When you say that it's not a natural wetland, so my understanding is when they built these other roads, 500 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,360 they caused such a condition that it became, it just filled in, because it was a low area. 501 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,980 I think literally, and I'm scared to let the engineer back up here, because I think you might say, 502 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:19,100 I'm about somebody who will throw up. 503 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,940 I'm an agent also. 504 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,840 I get, I understand, engineer. 505 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:32,100 So, the Giants, the giant swayal really, that was built in order to accommodate the on ramp coming from 178 towards 278 towards Elton here. 506 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:36,660 It just throws a whole lot of water down in that area on that side of the road. 507 00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:38,020 I was amazed. 508 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:44,820 I was the one who went out and put up our red sign, one day during the rain and there was some substantial water there that day. 509 00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:46,780 But it drains off very, very quickly. 510 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:52,820 And I guess my question is really before they built this road, yes, but it did not exist. 511 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:55,240 And then after they built the road, it didn't now exist. 512 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,720 It apparently so, I guess so. 513 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,120 But again, I want to reiterate, this is basically a commercial area where the county is, I think, 514 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,980 actually hoping that there will be more infill of commercial so that it doesn't bleed over 515 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:13,560 into the residential, because you have the big Marines, the big Matthews Marine there, 516 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,240 tractors, farmers, supply, and then the large tailors landscape all of which are right there. 517 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:22,520 We believe this will offer people from Sun City and all of Southern View for County, a good 518 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,300 opportunity to come in and shop at a K&D worship, which is really, very much needed in this 519 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:33,840 low country area. This shaded area is that the area that you are proposing to backfield. Yes, sir. 520 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:35,760 The shade is that 10 percent. Yes. 521 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,970 And it looks like parking is beyond net. So would that, 522 00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:45,950 You don't, I guess that's not needed to be back filled. 523 00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:48,950 I mean, lift the elevation of it. 524 00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:50,370 Yes, sir, that is exactly right. 525 00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:55,850 If it's not showing all this and being able to fulfill it, then. 526 00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:59,770 There, I'll have to tell you what we're going to look at. 527 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,480 I'll hold you this if you wish. 528 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,200 This is another engineer who's lost. 529 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520 I'm to the alert range with more than worth engineering. 530 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:11,860 So the blue area is... 531 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,320 Okay, let me get my battery straight. 532 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:19,160 So this, where you see the hatch with the little dots, 533 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,400 that's our wetland all the way. 534 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,500 And this black dash area is where we would like to fill. 535 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,700 The blue shaded area is what would only be 10% 536 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,500 which is allowed by the ordinance. 537 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,260 So we're requesting to fill this black dash area. 538 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:38,560 And what's beyond that, and this other side 539 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,760 with that will all remain, that's the buffer. 540 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,540 from 278 and 170 that were required to maintain. 541 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:54,080 Okay, so everything in the dark perimeter here is where you will be back fillet. 542 00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:55,480 I apologize for that. 543 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,160 Yes. 544 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 And the blue is one we would only be allowed under the existing ordinance. 545 00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:13,740 So, it's our intent to keep a 15 foot buffer from where we would disturb where those parking 546 00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:19,180 stalls would be. It's our intent to have a 15 foot buffer and then it will be the natural wetlands 547 00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:24,400 of that 15 foot and can break out and ensure that no disturbance would be beyond that. 548 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:29,440 Okay, so I guess that would be the whole half of an acre of 0.5 something. 549 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,500 Yes. 550 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:30,880 Okay. 551 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:38,280 The national permit allows you to put up to have an anchor in some of that is on that black 552 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,760 dash polygon is less than happening here. 553 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,560 I 554 00:40:48,340 --> 00:40:49,100 have a question. 555 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,340 Obviously, that water has to go somewhere after you've filled this in. 556 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640 Is it going to affect any other properties around this? 557 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:04,880 Yes, so what's actually going on in the reason why that went like formed is along to 78. 558 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,000 There's actually a rather more to ditch that goes down to the water along to 78. 559 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,440 And so this is actually a low spot that was formed when that ramp was built. 560 00:41:16,020 --> 00:41:19,780 And so what will happen is that ditch will maintain in the right of way. 561 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,000 And so that water will just continue to where it naturally goes down. 562 00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:28,140 And there's no other, this is like the end of the ditch. 563 00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:32,340 So, it wouldn't back up water on the other properties. 564 00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:38,540 So, looking at this image on the monitor there. 565 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,340 See that little wetland area on the top. 566 00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:46,760 Is that the area we're talking about? 567 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,440 That's not the area we're talking about, right? 568 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,280 So, where your mouth is on the screen, it would be right here with this blue text is. 569 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:59,020 And then this would be where the majority of the wetland is kind of at that corner, 570 00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:04,700 where he's going to write also in 170, but that's kind of where the majority of that one is. 571 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,180 So I believe what happened was when they built the ramp, there was a significant amount of dirt 572 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:15,580 that brought that up to higher elevation, and then there's runoff from that now. 573 00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:15,880 Right. 574 00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:17,120 Yeah, there's in that area. 575 00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:23,400 And then you would still have sufficient drainage where that little pond is or whatever. 576 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:30,500 As you build up your property, it will still be doing a jerry at there. 577 00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:38,380 And I understand now where you say that that was not a wet land previously to the 578 00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:39,300 ramp being built. 579 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,420 And there's also a significant ditch along a piece of railroads that runs all the way down towards 580 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:46,060 Matthews Marina. 581 00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:52,460 So we have ditches on both sides of our property that train all the roadways away 582 00:42:52,460 --> 00:42:52,780 one 583 00:42:56,780 --> 00:43:04,140 more question please. I take the stormwater folks are good with all this. Yeah, that's okay. 584 00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:13,440 My job and survey has been done. There are no species of wildlife that are critical to this property. 585 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,380 All right. 586 00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:25,070 I don't know if there's any more proposals to that, 587 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:30,010 but he has the spirit. 588 00:43:30,910 --> 00:43:43,910 Yeah, I mean, from a more revealed perspective professionally, I think this is a textbook case of what you'd have to do in order to help meet all four requirements for hardship. 589 00:43:44,890 --> 00:43:50,510 You have roads on three sides of this property. You have existing parcels. 590 00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:56,410 You have a natural occur in condition that occurs that was not the making of the applicants. 591 00:43:57,170 --> 00:44:06,470 Thought we think the disturbance and the relief is minimal and is the exact amount necessary to carry out the development of the property. 592 00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:14,770 So all of those things satisfy all the requirements of unique conditions, unnecessary hardship, 593 00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:19,670 applying to just this particular piece of property, the applicant, did not create their own 594 00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:20,130 hardship. 595 00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:27,850 So we think relief was warranted and also, you know, I've got some concern about, you know, 596 00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:31,690 the 10 percent, you know, you can only disturb 10 percent. 597 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:34,110 Well, what is that number based on? 598 00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:36,510 So that plot gives me a little bit of polish for concerned. 599 00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:39,510 That's one of the reasons why we supported the request. 600 00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:42,530 So, you know, there's really no magic number. 601 00:44:42,530 --> 00:44:49,970 is to 10% as appropriate, but 11% or 12% or 15% is it because that's just too much, so 602 00:44:49,970 --> 00:44:54,310 you know, it's just a lot of trees. And we support it. We recommend it to people 603 00:44:54,310 --> 00:44:59,350 as you appreciate your treatment. They've been waiting for several months for this. 604 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,320 Thank you. Would I be able to see the plot that you were just holding up there a few minutes ago? 605 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:18,400 I'm just wondering where your access will be to the dealership. 606 00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:24,440 to the dealership, let's see. 607 00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:28,960 So we're proposing, with this rendering, 608 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:31,080 two active points along these over and over. 609 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:32,900 OK. 610 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,760 You visualize the feeling of having to be oriented this way. 611 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,420 This would be kind of where you drop off 612 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:41,460 for a service area. 613 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,660 And then this would be your main entry here. 614 00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:49,680 I'm actually, I'm sorry, I've seen that your main entry 615 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,800 to be here and the business is their secondary injury and that's a requirement for the 616 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,140 fire on access to that secondary injury. 617 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,580 I am familiar with this area because I live not far from here, 618 00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,060 so that was my concern 619 00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:11,060 because that entrance ramp or that entrance ramp on to 278 off of Okatee Highway is 620 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:17,820 correct, right, and that's, and this is at the bottom that's Taylor's landscaping is 621 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:27,540 correct? Right. So Taylor is actually adjacent. Right. So just to the lower right of that, 622 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:38,450 the southeast of that. Yep. Okay. Yep. And the SDOT is reviewed all this to make sure that 623 00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:44,230 you're okay for access. And the preliminary stages, but yes, we would have to go to the 624 00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:48,970 and when designing the layout, we make sure we have direct 625 00:46:48,970 --> 00:46:50,230 with separation requirements. 626 00:46:51,610 --> 00:46:54,690 I would say that would be a condition that I would have 627 00:46:54,690 --> 00:46:58,170 make sure that SCDOT is good with that all out. 628 00:46:58,590 --> 00:46:59,810 We would welcome that. 629 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,920 Any public comments? 630 00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,980 Public comments is closed, gentlemen? 631 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,620 Guys ready to make a motion on this. 632 00:47:25,870 --> 00:47:27,010 Anyone of you guys? 633 00:47:27,110 --> 00:47:29,310 I don't have to take it to have conditions on it. 634 00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:30,670 I'll go ahead and make a motion. 635 00:47:30,890 --> 00:47:31,350 I got it. 636 00:47:31,450 --> 00:47:33,310 I'll go ahead and make a motion. 637 00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:34,930 Do we approve the variance? 638 00:47:35,650 --> 00:47:37,290 With the condition that the Harvey Corps 639 00:47:37,290 --> 00:47:39,390 Benjamin here standards for wetlands, 640 00:47:40,050 --> 00:47:41,270 disturbance, slash mitigation, 641 00:47:41,550 --> 00:47:43,590 be complied with, and also, 642 00:47:44,330 --> 00:47:48,170 South Carolina DOT for the access, 643 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:49,190 against the driveway. 644 00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:52,910 The motion has been made. 645 00:47:54,350 --> 00:47:54,450 Second. 646 00:47:54,450 --> 00:47:55,670 The meeting is seconded. 647 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:56,170 All in favor? 648 00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:00,690 Motion has been passed. 649 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:04,270 You guys can move forward. 650 00:48:04,270 --> 00:48:07,850 and get your key of project code. 651 00:48:09,070 --> 00:48:09,750 Yes sir, 652 00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:17,380 any old business, 653 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:24,040 new business, 654 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,920 election, I guess we can't do the election, 655 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:30,580 I guess we need to wait until Mr. Williams return it. 656 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,980 Hopefully at our next meeting, we will be able to do the election, 657 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,100 and I will be in this hot seat. 658 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,360 I have one announcement review on this to make sure 659 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:48,340 a layer of what's going to occur at your activity, at your July meeting, we will be hearing 660 00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:56,000 the vape point, item special use request. We will not be holding that meeting in this 661 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:05,360 green. Our projected plan right now is to hold it at the land brown facility down in town in 662 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:11,940 the gym there, but we'll be providing you instructions on that and setting that up as we 663 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:16,860 progress more into it. But we will be doing a big point in July. There will be the 664 00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:23,480 element in seating for the public. It will be posted on Facebook Live for comments there 665 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,680 potentially, but we're working out those fine details. I just wanted you all to know that 666 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,500 it will not be in this room and there will be a special meeting location. So pay attention 667 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:34,060 So that one might send out the agenda. 668 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,000 Is that the only item on the other, that agenda? 669 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:38,760 Oh, the thing we got a couple more. 670 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:42,180 I do expect that public hearing to be quite linked. 671 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,140 So, yeah. 672 00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:44,800 Just prepare yourself for that, okay? 673 00:49:48,140 --> 00:49:48,880 All right, anymore. 674 00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:51,080 Thanks. 675 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,220 No, sir. 676 00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:54,380 We're going to watch it there, sir. 677 00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:55,360 Okay. 678 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,040 I'm moving the window to the meeting. 679 00:50:01,580 --> 00:50:03,440 Allerfieden, signen, allerfieden.