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We have now started our street on this right. Yeah, we have.

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No, Randy's number two. Yeah.

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Yeah, we're good.

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The member city council meeting.

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We have myself and council member.

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After we're going to, we're trying to wait.

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Council representative should be there immediately.

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We have turned the time to instrument the all-break world

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there,

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but that's not a serious

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process.

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I should turn it there because it's a very arsenal that you don't need a body to grow

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to action.

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You don't know what I have.

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It doesn't seem to be a little bit curious of my wife's hand on measuring things.

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If you're calling me in a bunch of meetings, I'd like to do these things too as I hope

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the United States of America and do the Epolyne for which it stands, one nation, another

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I ended up in this little facility and just in straw.

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What about the little one?

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Is that baby crying?

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No, no, it's good.

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Gab, I'm just a short thought, as I, as all the things that have been going on in the last month or so,

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I was sitting, I don't even remember where I was, but I think somewhere I had a dollar bill in my hand.

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And I was just contemplating kind of what was happening in our community and kind of around the world.

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And I was just looking at this dollar bill.

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And I noticed on the little sill in the Eglist mouth, the words, the sort of a signal.

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And I'm like, what does that mean?

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So I looked it up really quick and it means out of many one and I thought that, that kind of means something right now.

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I had watched our community come together during the fires.

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I'd watched our community come together during the floods.

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And I hope to see that continue on but it meant enough that I actually wrote it down.

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And I went and looked up a little bit as a original, originally was from the 13 colonies from

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me one nation, 12 of those 13 colonies, from and one nation.

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And it was the de facto model for the United States, and it was on the great cell of the United

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States.

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Since then, the Congress has adopted a in-godly trust as the national model for a while.

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That was kind of the de facto model.

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So, I just thought that was a good thing for us here at this point in time is out of many run and that's it.

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On for some interest, I'm going to see you in the agenda.

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I am the treasurer or the orange-wise non-club that is hunter or you mayor.

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Does that job name pretty well under?

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I'm sorry, I'm trying to hurry and add this.

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What's the table of public comment into the end?

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We have representatives from the 4-H Club here to present.

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4-H Club.

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4-H Club.

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4-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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5-H Club.

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We are one thank you for helping us fund our animals prior to this year, we are one

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thing if you guys would like to help fund it again. This year we have 85 kids in the 142

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animals. That's a record member for how many animals we have.

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And we've been doing service for you funding us

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and thank you

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for.

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So what do you do? What do you do at the bridge?

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Just everybody do different things or...

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We all have different projects. I'm showing a lamb.

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I too.

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We have stairs, pigs and goats, what do you guys want to call out if you're doing

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very positive?

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How does that happen?

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What is happening?

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I've asked them to write them for you.

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I intend to go to a boat and then I show you three things, and then I just let them

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go.

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Show them.

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Go ahead.

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I am a co-worker. This is an introduction.

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I'm going to be staring to your hands.

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I do a nutshell. We're talking about Bill.

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What's the best animal?

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I'm like, flipping, sholly,

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anything, but lambs, anything, but lambs.

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And then he talks about it and they said,

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"- In the cell and where democracy be we're supporting our cell, we have a big support system for our kids

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and we're going to participate."

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And the type of thing in my project, they had a clean out barrier by their needs.

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Not very, they're also the officers that they feel they have a lot.

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I'm going to try and go out with them.

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They're actually trying to make sure they want to talk to us.

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And they have to clean up on Saturday.

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They're the county.

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We've done the county there.

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So, they tried to do support. We tried to do in-kind and volunteer service boards for the committee.

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To take care of what the police come from.

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As far as I want to, I'm not sure if it says a thousand before, but they're asking for $1,500 this year, because they got more animals.

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We have more animals, and there is also, there's a lot of things that this person has picked

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or is that our point is able to, like, do you have a point this year, and so, first, wondering

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it, who's the other person's number level, the one who's in some of our cake dorms, because of that,

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things that have to do with a summer that, if we could, hopefully, get up soon.

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And really, the support goes, like, I know, I get to all those in terms of, I need for

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colleges and stuff and they will be able to go to college. This is their summer job. So a lot

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of people write a two job, look at two jobs. It works in business and so it supports centers

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growing and stuff like that. Should we want to teach the kids that working is important to

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be in your magazine to place that one kind. And it's not just to ambush us all of it.

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It

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You say you have a record number, you can just put it in the shirt.

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So, which is really cool, David, but it's hard work, and it's, I have a culture to

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see around a lot of possible, because I have a culture going down, but we have one more

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kid, a friend of the sheriff's law.

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The Korean's been working with my kids here since February, and now it's started on tour.

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So, it is a nice, long-term event, and it's just not as separate.

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It's one of those other warnings that I want, or you get a lot of calls.

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But

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we have a lot of things for our kids to have this project, we appreciate it, we appreciate it.

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We appreciate you guys doing it absolutely.

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Okay, any other members of the council have any questions?

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I recognize you guys.

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Hey, the ring raise, we're in a student there and a lot of all of us with us that happen.

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And we can't even enter as a student.

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We are very generous, but we should get a work to wrap up.

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So the

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request is 1,500, any additional discussion from the council,

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there are motion, I'll make that motion, can we approve a 1,500?

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I'll segment.

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Motion from council member Cox and second from council member Allbright on

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favor.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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any women in the room moved to a gender item six flood fire

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high is our good friend Amy women Amy how are you I'm good and it's actually

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Amy way mad M a M a M a M at the end

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way man way man way man way man way man so I'm actually from my

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So, I just wanted to come in and say thank you to all of you guys for all of you guys who does.

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This summer because I know you probably don't get that thanks when I start getting emotional though.

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We respect community too.

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Because most of you guys I've had your children at school and I love those kids and I love this community.

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And I just, I had an idea and I don't even know how we would go about it but I thought that it would be a nice thing to have a billboard on both sides of the street.

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way. Thank you. Everybody who's been supporting us because it's not just our community

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it's the whole state and so I don't know how we'd go out that I don't know if there's

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billboards already from the city or the county or if that was something that we needed to look into

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or if we need to defund race for that or whatever it was just an idea I had one night that I thought

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would be a nice thing because, um, or the next two to five years, we're probably going to need

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some more support and then for telling everybody, hey, thanks for all that you've done,

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we'll probably get more support. And I don't know if that's a crazy idea, but I just,

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you like it. I love it. Okay. That's a great idea. Well, I was talking to, just

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heat out at school, but I was going to say, Council will tell everyone that I like it. I don't

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level of the fever, but you guys are by community too, self. I just didn't know that it's

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something that you guys can do.

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Amy, it may take us a little bit to brainstorm how to make

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that happen, but it's a great idea.

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Okay. Well, I don't know what's going to take a while. I don't know if you guys have other

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things to do right now, but I just thought we were probably located for everybody to see

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I know I heard that I was able to come help with your racist day of service because I had a family matter to take care of back Eastern, but I heard it was so well organized, so well supported and I see that we always forget somebody to tell me you too.

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And so it's on both sides of the freeway everybody's got to tell me.

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So, I just wanted to let you know that we do appreciate what you guys are doing, and you know, I have got away all over the state and they have told me to tell you guys to, how but, because they're like, those are all your friends down there.

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are they, they really admire how our community is handled, what's been going on, so I just

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know you guys probably don't get the thing to not see there, so I just wanted to put that

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out there for you guys to, anyway, that's why you did it, anyway, thank you for your time,

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appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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We're working, we just make a note of that idea and we can brainstorm and make that.

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Yes sir, I just noted it.

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So we're hanging here on the fourth letter of our minds.

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The Gen. Item 7, the Business Relief Fundraiser, is this with Robin Mollon?

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Oh, it looks like we have some other faults in the room. Come on up again.

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It's childhood, it's a bit of an EV-hender spin, and we're going to have a Robert, she can't be here.

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And we're going to help with the business really, but that's all you know.

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We've had um, last two hours and some time now I'm just going down in the cell.

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A lot of businesses have been struggling a little bit, even mine.

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But I work for it.

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And so we'd like to help be able to say,

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Point them, an idea is to have a pop-up market included with a graphall and a movie night, and we

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charge for them to help raise money for these businesses.

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And today, we're asking you to

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have this pop-up market, and we would like to be able to use your brilliant right here in the

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grassy area, but we not so in the construction, our date right now is hopefully September 3rd,

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Is it something to be under construction?

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Yes.

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It is scheduled for continued construction.

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Kind of put a pause on it with the emergency location with the volunteers and things like that.

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You can see now.

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It's got lots of water on it.

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You know, we're slowly dissipating that.

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But it is still scheduled for construction into the fall.

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Okay.

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So with the glass area over by the football field,

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So I believe on September 3rd is the soccer game that may be the one on Main Street.

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Like by the post offices.

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No, they're starting to draw some Sonya names.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it comes from a driving path.

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That's nice.

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That's nice.

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That's nice.

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Okay.

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That's okay.

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So we probably look for it.

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That's a good spot.

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That would be nice.

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I think it's also on coming with that.

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Yes.

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It's okay.

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I also was with dirt over by the front box.

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That little dirt area behind that field of dirt.

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Where the volleyball nets are.

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The dirt area.

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Time never seen the volleyball nets up.

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But we were thinking like the north side.

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Where you guys had the firefighters station.

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How would you like your show?

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Across the street.

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And across the street.

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Or even in the fourth leg.

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For the spring storm and ideas.

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The property across the street from Netflix, yeah, that could be a viable update in that box.

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We also considered maybe a minor part.

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I know that's not a main street.

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A minor part has a billion, sounds like you can bring it a ban.

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And, you know, they would at least have that cover of the building,

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and then plenty of grass areas.

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So that could be a lot of activity.

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That's true.

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And the city owns that.

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So yeah, that could be an option as well.

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Okay, I don't know.

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Sorry.

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We did talk about the foreclutch map.

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If that's not so pretty bad.

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How many things can you handle that the foreclutch that we can?

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Not the time to count them in there.

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That's good work.

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But they're commitment that we have to have.

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Do this.

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Or pay fee.

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Talk about the foreclutch as far as turning the screen.

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Like this is a bit of a market.

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Yeah, can they only the farmers market?

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I would say, guys, I would say there's a couple of flags for the Pioneer Park.

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Okay.

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We will have those.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Here,

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agenda item number eight, accounts and minutes, accounts and meetings, minutes from the 14th, and the 20th of July.

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Any additional discussion?

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Is there a motion to approve?

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I'm asking the way to approve the minutes.

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I'll second that.

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So motion by council member Allbright, second by council member All in favor.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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The agenda item nine, the approval of bills from July 14th through August 10th, Council members are working.

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Yeah, total bills.

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It was a big period.

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Their money going out was $1.792 million dollars.

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A lot of this is coming from bond payments for different bonds.

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In 2016, electric revenue bond was one of them, and there was the sales 2021 and 2017

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electric bond as well, then the other major check was the UAMS was just under $195,000.

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So a lot of money leaving the account that everything appears reasonable in order to

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anyone

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have any questions from me or did anything add to that?

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It's the

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last

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time we can tell you, this is the way we will put your sick

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opinions in ahead with that they had it, so it will, obviously, for

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questions or discussions,

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their motion to approve the bills from July 14th to August 10th,

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I'll make that motion.

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I'll second it.

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Motion by Council Member Gold.

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Second by Council Member Cox, all in favor.

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All right.

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Any opposed?

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The law until agenda item number 10.

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The underground river crossing funding.

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Remember, you got this one?

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Yeah.

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I do, Mayor.

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The initial assessment of the flooding.

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There was a pretty obvious emergency situation

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with our Baker Canyon Spring Line.

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They come right there by the road and so our friends at Jones-Demail did a fantastic little patch job for that line.

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But now we're needing to have a more permanent structure for that line so it's a little bit more obviously permanent and not going to repeat the same problem when the most loving comes.

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And so, Parker Bersonak is here at the microphone

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to kind of go through the process of what we're trying

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to accomplish with getting that line, what it needs

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to be structural.

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Thanks, Monty.

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And just adding a little more color to that introduction.

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So as you all are probably aware, the spring line

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was broken or cross-sleevered.

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We had an emergency meeting with several agencies,

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the Division of Granging Water was part of that. We had technical experts from them as well as

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they're funding financial folks. They've promised, you know, through conversations to help

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be your city, they've kind of got a three-pronged approach.

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You know, there are a little short on money, so that's why they've proposed that we approach this with three different funding packages to take care of the issues.

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So, what's on your agenda tonight? History view and contract for Jones and the military finish our design work.

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Not only for the underground river crossing,

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we want to take that overhead one, the washed out.

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We want to put it underground, make it more safe,

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more resilient for future.

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There's also some of the Baker Canyon,

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where the spring lines been washed out.

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We've got some emergency measures, time for the air.

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And then we know that there's an obvious weakness

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in the water system, in terms of the growth area,

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at the upper end of your pressure zone.

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We want to put in an emergency booster station that you'll be able to access some of the future.

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If you ever do have issues with the springs again, now you'll have a backup source.

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You'll be able to take water from your tanks out of the house and push it into the essentially a newly created pressure zone in an emergency situation.

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We were kind of in a unique spot when the growth flooded, water was out for a couple of days

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where we dealt with with the issue at hand and figured out the work around it.

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And then once we had the spring line put back in, they were still on your boil over for about another week,

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or we got water tests and everything put together.

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So this just adds more resiliency to your system.

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So the contract we got before you and this old estate supposed to send a letter right now.

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But we'll outline the funding terms for this 47,000 change.

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They're pulling this money out of what they call their planning money.

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So they call it planning advance.

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We were told and we expect that this will be 100% forgiveness,

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meaning a grant to the city to help pay for the engineering design.

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There's a little bit of construction management in that project as well.

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around face to just kind of looking down the road in two weeks there's a board being the city

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so far you can you can join virtually if you need to it's it'll likely be in Salt Lake

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down at Mount Boundal location yet but that's what we'll go ask for at $196,000 they were asking for

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in Mount Patio the first round of the work on the spring line repair that'll get us put

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ground, we just got a pullback from the contractor with around 300,000, but we're

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grabbed the order code in there likely after late, and we'll do that as part of the

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EWP project, and for your attitude that pay for it. So there's we're some

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jogging of money, there's no poor funding agencies involved, but that's where

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drinking water could help. On short term, the beauty with that funding package,

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Again, it's supposed to be our grant, we are case a little bit to the board bar and see what they can do for us.

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But that'll be on the 25th, and then the third package will be one of the long term improvements.

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So that booster station, and then anything else that we will capture will system.

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It needs to be long term.

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But when we need for that to be the intercept temperature.

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So we'll clear up in the next couple of weeks.

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our priorities for drinking water and then ask for money there. So that's kind of what we're

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right now and then what we can expect. But the 47,000 should get us designed through

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all three systems of the booster station that under period, it could take me over at crossing

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underground and then the protection on the 300 ground, crossings that are washed out. And just to

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confirm this initial 47,000 change ask is going to be through a reimbursement process with the

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This is all looking at being underground, that's right, it's even under the river.

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Yes, we want to push it under your river, we'll put it in a casing on the river and hopefully have something that will pass.

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You know, get through the next big flood exactly, next several big floods.

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Do we still, Parker, do we still have Baker Canyon's spring water turned out of the system just flowing into the river?

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It's my understanding that the very top spring is still turned out, and then you know if

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we're really turning that back in what we've been working on.

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Okay.

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I know there have been up there working on it.

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When we went last week, it was still exposed.

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I guess that's what we can have to go now.

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We were there.

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But yeah, it sounds like there's a good chance of where they've been there.

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I mean, Chad has been able to get into some work, so it could be back in now.

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in the in the process of addressing that. Okay. And even in the back there. So, I mean, we've done some very short term remedial actions, but long term, the pipe is still been impacted by folders and debris.

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So that's kind of what we're looking at is, you know, what how much pipe needs to be cut out in a place where we need to do to protect it. So it doesn't, you know, accept it for future damage.

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Again, we understand that, from the next decade likely, there's there's risk.

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We want to minimize that risk to the water system itself.

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If there's continued erosion in the future, we want to be able to mitigate that.

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We know a lot of the mitigations in the country, the EWP program.

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But if we can get in and use the drinking water money to cut out for about a second

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to use new pieces in, in case it, you put ballasts or, you know, other protected measures

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around it to make it more sustainable than we can come in with the WP and put the grip

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wrap and kind of finish the project out.

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I can't remember who I forward with the contact information, but Stan Summers with USDA is, I

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talk to him over at the one Utah Summit, he suggested that there may be some money available

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through USDA, there's so many conversations and so many different agencies and organizations

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I can't remember who I've talked to and who I am, but have we been aware or pursuing

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any funding through the USDA?

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So, not on our end yet, but there's kind of two reasons, one, to my understanding USDA's

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money until September when their fiscal year turns over and then too and we're going to

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use a lot of federal money but federal money is a pain. If we have access to state money

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we're right now the state stepped up and said that they should be able to fund state.

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It's just a lot easier to access. It's easier for you to manage. There's a lot less strings

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attached to the other side of that too. Even if we end up taking a loan if we don't get

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grant from the state. You know, if we can qualify for the act like through U.S. D.A. World

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Development, that's an emergency water source grant. I can't remember what the exact

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acronym is, but that's an emergency source of funding. That one is all grant, just for some

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context.

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I think we want to look at that to

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But right now, through the spring protection, I think we've got our basis covered with the state money.

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I think the World Conversations and some of the stuff that's probably next on the agenda,

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we want to be well-connected for an angle to work into that U.S. dear,

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quite a funding if we can.

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In a motion to improve the contract as a present.

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Correct.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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I'll make a motion, second,

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so a motion to a through by Council Member Cox, second by Council

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Member Low, fallen favor, aye,

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aye, aye opposed,

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sounds great, guys, thank you, and I think

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are you going to help us with agenda item number 11, the secondary water strategy discussion.

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We have a Darren Robertson here, Mayor, and I'll just give a brief background.

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For the council, this is also your memorandum, but obviously, as you guys know, the surface

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water source to our P.I. irrigation pond has been compromised, and the debris coming

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into the pond is not healthy for it.

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Our attempts to divert it are ongoing, they'll continue to be ongoing for years to come,

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You know, frequent, dreading and cleaning the water as best we can, but all of those issues

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are leading to conversations with with Jones at the mill and others to find future

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more long-term plans for our pressurized irrigation system, because it's been evident that

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That system is putting a lot of unneeded and unnecessary stress on our culinary system.

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And so, making efforts to create a long-term plan that involves assessing our current wells,

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potentially rehabbing those wells, potentially looking at purchasing existing wells

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or potentially drilling new wells as all in the table right now.

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As we look for a long-term solution,

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It's a little bit more of a bulletproof than just only relying on the surface wire as we all

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know, it's been compromised and so Darren, Jones Demill, has been spearheading those efforts

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as far as our long-term plan and he's here to talk about that.

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Thanks, Moly.

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This is first.

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We're there any questions from what Moly said, and then what was in the, in the Council

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packets from here.

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Maybe just a little bit more background, so back in 2010, 11ish. We engage

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at the city, a lot of ground water, just to study, focusing on the radio and equally

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I just try to understand where those contaminants were and which, where we could drill

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any while. We ended up drilling, where we could say the drill any while at the North Creek.

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The hydrogen geologists that we had on that was part of our team to do that work was John Files with Cascade Water.

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He's got a lot of history with the city, he put together a very detailed hydrogen logic study, which is basically

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It outlines your desk where you, your most productive water areas are and also from all the samples

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that we wrote to it in the city to take, we try to identify where the spikes in these radio

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for example, the Ministry of Health had exceeded the maximum contamination level or rate of

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equiids, set by the EPA, so that's one of these way your Ministry of Health is all under

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the colored water system. So still a pre-dated source of water for PI type use, but there have

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And then some tests come back that exceeded the maximum potential level.

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So we put together that study and identified that the chance for the highest quality water

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and best quality water and in a building wall, the more it's required, the city also needed

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another source to disturb that zone, you have different pressures on your system, and so also

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I don't find that study or other as strong as the best chance for high-quality water.

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And that's basically a beautiful vision and more self-wine for industry well.

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After the cemetery wall at North Creek, there's kind of this higher transmission.

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If you're higher yielding, it's actually going to be on water.

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I don't know if you're targeting 2,000 yields per way or something.

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that's where we, you know, we would advise the drill. So all that data is still relevant, I guess

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is what I'm saying. The city has a lot of information when you're looking at what to do with

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your current water situation. I got an update from John Piles who did that original study and his

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It was that based on ground water monitoring wells, your ground water offer continues to decline over the last 20 years.

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It's just been a slow decline so that your level of where that ground water sets is slowly dropped off.

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And so in his words, it's not sustainable for the University to drill additional wells in

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your groundwater off the floor to supplement PI for other than emergency needs.

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So if we know that we're going to have debris coming down the canyon for the next number

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of years, we've seen as many as 10 years before our firm stars heal up enough to where you

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get all the debris. There should be come last for very year,

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but so that's going to be something

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the city needs to plan for and try to get structures in place to build that. But from in our opinion,

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depending with higher geologists, it wouldn't be a wise thing for the city to fully replace that

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water with groundwater.

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We'll put your COVID water sources at risk. We spent a lot of time with FEMA today, and that's what

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can be explained is that one of our concerns is not only water quality in your aquifer, but also

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quality. If we poll it to heavily on the higher quality, the portions of your aquifer where

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the radio and e-clias levels are lower,

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you don't know what could happen, but one particular

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come as it could call some of those contaminants, the radio nuclei, it's toward those areas where

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you're pulling heavily. And that's not a easy fix. It's, we don't want that happen city.

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So that's another, it's a theoretical risk, but it's still a risk. So in our opinion, we want

456
00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:26,830
to help the city make the best decision to come up with a sustainable solution. And we do believe

457
00:38:26,830 --> 00:38:38,210
that pumping occasionally to supplement the PIS system is would be okay but to consider

458
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:45,170
pumping 24-7 for all radiation season. We don't think that's a good long term or

459
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:50,850
sustainable solution. That's not something we would recommend.

460
00:38:54,390 --> 00:39:07,930
So, we, you know, I look at Malsain fruit, which we talked about it, Malsain fruit is, you still have, that river's going to continue for like all this has, it's just chocolate milk sometimes, chocolate milk shake,

461
00:39:10,850 --> 00:39:12,310
but it's going to continue as well.

462
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:16,130
So as we talk to FEMA, as we talk to your CS,

463
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:21,610
let's find the agency, how can we, what funding park

464
00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:26,070
can we pull in leverage and make it urgent to put

465
00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:28,890
in something in place where you can go back

466
00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:31,630
to the burning herbal water and then clean it up

467
00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:34,810
as much as you can, and also have the ability to turn it

468
00:39:34,810 --> 00:39:39,930
out when we get our rainstorm to be able to go up there

469
00:39:39,930 --> 00:39:44,290
turn it out so it's not impacting your palm like happened yesterday,

470
00:39:47,050 --> 00:39:49,170
so that in our mind is the

471
00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:57,970
lost aim for to lead on, by the agencies, let's give it a version back in there, let's put some

472
00:39:57,970 --> 00:40:03,970
some settlement handling debris handling structures in the head of the canal, some big slew structures,

473
00:40:03,970 --> 00:40:11,450
And we've been successful, those on other, on other fire impacted fire sheds.

474
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:16,250
There's one point, I think, just about Mary's Beltound, that's, what a great fact.

475
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:20,350
The old Mary just told me, two days ago, I'm telling you, how long haven't the gut flows.

476
00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:30,330
You're going to be dealing with some dirty water that you're accustomed to.

477
00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:36,950
have to proceed. People will roll the next number of years. So we need to try to come up

478
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:41,810
the best solution. In my mind, that's the law saying fruit was to do all we came with

479
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:46,870
the river and there's some temporary things that's probably just as well being fruit would

480
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:52,710
be. Were you having some of the existing laws that are currently not being used yet too

481
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:58,710
wells? You have the cemetery well that you used to pump into the system. It's was a thousand

482
00:40:58,710 --> 00:41:04,930
You need 3,000 gallons per minute to really make a dead.

483
00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:12,430
Assembly Terry Wells and another one that when the city cruise turned that on, it

484
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:13,090
captivated.

485
00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:22,550
So, the water was dropped all of the, it sucked air into the boat, so it was, it was

486
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:32,270
Soging and water. And from what I recall that, that well, maybe 500 gallons per minute produced

487
00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:40,790
by the sand. So there may be some options to lower, some pump settings, clean up,

488
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:47,730
some wells, do some due to those units from a lower cost. But 1500 gallons per minute available

489
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:52,550
to P.I. with those two existing laws that are not being used for public purposes.

490
00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:59,210
American, on a temporary basis, just as need is not 24-7, and I'll pick that B-wise

491
00:41:59,210 --> 00:42:04,870
for the city to draw on that, that proceed off for 24-7 during your admission season.

492
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:12,470
Other options, you can draw a replacement well in those pre-the-local fairies and

493
00:42:13,210 --> 00:42:18,550
But why do you, why do you, why do you well with all two better standards?

494
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:24,610
You know, capacity is 2,000 gallon per minute well there.

495
00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:27,850
We could design that to call it a standard.

496
00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:31,530
So, it could be used for either order, what's appropriate,

497
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:32,830
call me in the building.

498
00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:36,050
So, you could, it could be a future call in your well.

499
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:42,370
could be used for your P.I. to a very kind of emergency period.

500
00:42:43,230 --> 00:42:45,070
So there's a number of options there.

501
00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:49,790
As we talked about to you, there's a little more urgent fee minutes.

502
00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:55,350
This is urgent, but we want the city, we want to help the city

503
00:42:55,350 --> 00:42:59,050
make the best decision here about jumping to something that

504
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:01,630
works for a lot of money in.

505
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:07,710
And to kind of go off about initially we thought that's hurry, hurry, hurry, get something

506
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:14,490
this season but that's now, you know, hurry. And then as we thought more about that,

507
00:43:14,530 --> 00:43:22,430
and as Jones Mimil was helping us think through that, whatever we do, whatever we decide,

508
00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:28,110
the city is going to live with years to come. And so we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.

509
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:31,550
So you don't want to act in haste.

510
00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:32,950
We want to do this right.

511
00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:37,170
And Jones Demill has been extremely helpful

512
00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:38,950
and helping us understand that.

513
00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:40,710
We'll realize that.

514
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:42,450
But the funding that we're going to,

515
00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:44,830
we want to cross all our keys and dot our eyes

516
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:48,410
and do everything we can to tie some of this emergency disaster

517
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:50,210
funding to this.

518
00:43:50,570 --> 00:43:54,250
But there's no guarantee that that's going to be the case.

519
00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:55,090
That's going to happen.

520
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:57,370
So I really wanted you guys to understand

521
00:43:57,370 --> 00:44:05,210
from this point of view, you know, all the, all the details that John's

522
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:09,010
note can help explain and understand how it's understand, because this may

523
00:44:09,010 --> 00:44:13,210
be something that we consider as capital project in the air future, as

524
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:19,270
be a city may need to fund quite a bit of this. So I see it as that important,

525
00:44:19,330 --> 00:44:25,750
you know, to our water system. You know, the PI's one thing, but then when it

526
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:31,910
it's affecting our culinary as it has and as it will, it's pretty serious, so we need to

527
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:38,990
start considering that as far as funding goes, hopefully we get something to help us, but it's

528
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:39,490
no guarantee.

529
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,520
Further discussion from the council, I think that that's a good update and kind of a description

530
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,720
and a definition from how we're balancing.

531
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Yes, I would just say I appreciate Darren Parker and I have been partners of Jones and Mill for sort of talking us off the road to helping us to calm down a little bit.

532
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:22,660
When I sat in a conversation, it was extremely helpful and it's nice, it's nice to have

533
00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:27,600
the confidence in a partner that will help us see clearly, so thank you guys.

534
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,600
And I think we're on the right track personally, I do think that this is an issue that we're

535
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:41,160
going to need to address moving into next irrigation system or next irrigation season.

536
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:46,000
So, may any other questions from any members of the council?

537
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:52,260
So, Bill said that it was working really soon.

538
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,200
Oh yeah, how does that do that?

539
00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:55,660
It's good.

540
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,520
So, if you picture a large concrete, well,

541
00:46:01,660 --> 00:46:03,880
the way that the version's decided you're important,

542
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,480
so you tried a lot of the better ones heavy rock,

543
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,940
that I was super luck by,

544
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,000
to take out the water a little off the floor,

545
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:19,280
with a river, kind of horizontal, and then what ends up in there can have this long concrete

546
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:27,300
channel that starts narrowing why it's impedance. And for this black canal that would be

547
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:34,500
going to be large of them. And you try to, you slow the water down enough to where that material

548
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:40,580
the cell town, but the bottom of that one, it's like the one, reverse one.

549
00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:46,160
At the bottom, you have a big solution. So what is the set of the Greeks in a certain

550
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:51,100
level? You need to have a lot of them ahead, where you have a such mind here where it seems

551
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:57,540
that material that leads to a certain level, that source gate opens, that pipe goes back

552
00:46:57,540 --> 00:47:03,040
to the river so you can get the cells, smooths is back to the river, you can see it.

553
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,000
you're still in the kind of color you put on the color you put on the color.

554
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,420
You don't need to be off the one.

555
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,420
Oh, you don't have to build shape, you don't have to design it.

556
00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:14,880
Plus growing options.

557
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,860
So yeah that's how I was working with Nick.

558
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,640
It's just like, yes, and all.

559
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,100
We all had time.

560
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:31,840
Also that smooth, that big, so you can now get to video on how big maybe you'd be building with it.

561
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,700
When that opens, just the head of the water,

562
00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:37,620
in June of 12th year of water come,

563
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:40,760
that is pushes all that out,

564
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:44,400
and it uses the water, the river just scallors,

565
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,460
everything out of that concrete channel,

566
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,320
bigger, much more, scallorating out,

567
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:53,120
the smooths need out the pipe to the back of the river.

568
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:56,440
So right there, like where the bridge is,

569
00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:59,580
where we have the right of the water,

570
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:04,600
you can now pay for what that emergency space is right in there.

571
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:06,860
You can visit with very high and back to the river.

572
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,540
We save all that settlement back to the system.

573
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:18,530
And depending on how dirty it is, it may upgrade multiple times a day.

574
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:23,230
Once, you know, there are clear periods, once a week.

575
00:48:25,610 --> 00:48:30,350
There are still other structures that can head up and head up like the air swells.

576
00:48:30,350 --> 00:48:37,450
Some majority of them, we can help by that by the cities, you guys want to put some of them, but just be larger.

577
00:48:39,470 --> 00:48:42,470
We probably also need a big, just a big.

578
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:51,190
Some of the channels that can spare value, but buyers don't need a big, big, big channels that just deepen and widen it.

579
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:53,310
Like, 25 feet.

580
00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:57,440
It's big soundwaves. It's basically a trap.

581
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:00,900
I mean you have to go in and graduate with every screen.

582
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,400
I mean, you have to see that just saves that from, it's super big out of it, we have

583
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,380
to have a whole week, get a new one, and so I think it could be all of those in your situation.

584
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,480
Plus, it's really long.

585
00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:16,120
It's a version of the target.

586
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,740
There's something I haven't done long, and it's straight off, and the volume of the green.

587
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:23,520
Is that what I said about that on the system?

588
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Does that all go to their PI over there?

589
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:28,860
You know, it's a bit wrong.

590
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,660
So, one of one of them is, like,

591
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,160
to the townspeople to have to clean their filters

592
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,340
and their systems way more often,

593
00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:39,200
since that's happened,

594
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,980
or the irony of one can also look at the department.

595
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:50,250
It's something people are going to have to do.

596
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:52,890
They're passing two probably both coarser screens,

597
00:49:52,890 --> 00:49:58,930
might have to change some screens in their beds. This is a new reality. Yeah, unfortunately,

598
00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:04,490
this is one of how we could get because people are going to need to know that here. That's

599
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:08,910
a good idea. When we need to get some balance, we get a period out of getting the information out,

600
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:15,150
so people at least smell, and guarantee there's people that don't even know they have a filter.

601
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:50,230
for a little while, probably, but that water is so important that a lot of the reasons

602
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:57,090
to put it in the system, but I'll put pressure strain on your culinary. It also, it also

603
00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:02,850
replaces your gal water by putting that through an irrigating, it just adds to your

604
00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:06,750
the whole system. So, I get it, thank you.

605
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:11,940
Any other questions?

606
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:12,620
I

607
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,080
thank you very much, you.

608
00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:24,080
Thanks, guys.

609
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:25,160
Thank you.

610
00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:28,810
I'll see you in the morning.

611
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:33,490
Well, yes.

612
00:51:34,110 --> 00:51:34,990
On

613
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:48,490
to agenda item 12, the general plan discussion.

614
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:51,410
Yes, thank you, Mayor.

615
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:59,350
I've been in contact with Kevin Smithley over the last little bit.

616
00:51:59,350 --> 00:52:04,410
have a few conversations and I appreciate Kevin for coming, making the drive up and saying

617
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:11,310
George, I believe Kevin works as a community advisor with a five county association

618
00:52:11,310 --> 00:52:12,190
of governments.

619
00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:17,930
Like I said, we've recently discussed improvements to our general plan.

620
00:52:18,530 --> 00:52:24,550
And with the fire and floods and kind of the new priorities that we're dealing with as a city.

621
00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:29,830
I can't think of a better time to look at our general plan, the last.

622
00:52:30,110 --> 00:52:38,910
The one that we, though, is currently in use, is from 1994. There has been, I see paper trails in our

623
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:47,130
after-ribe and looking at, there have been attempts and efforts made to re-vent the plan as soon as, as

624
00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:54,950
as recent as 2021, but none of these have been approved as far as the finalization of the new plan. And so, we've got a good

625
00:52:54,950 --> 00:53:01,430
start, but now with some of the things that we're dealing with as a city right now Kevin's

626
00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:06,690
call and the conversation with Kevin was very timely. So thank Kevin, I'll turn it off.

627
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:11,750
I'll give you a quick question. Yeah, so I was on planning in Zoning, we actually did a whole

628
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:18,730
bunch. Do you know what I'm saying? That in 2021? Yeah, and apparently I didn't go through, didn't

629
00:53:18,730 --> 00:53:24,430
get approved by the city council. We have, do we have what? Yes, yes, yes. We have a lot of work.

630
00:53:24,430 --> 00:53:27,130
Yeah, so we can do that in our information.

631
00:53:27,470 --> 00:53:29,390
Okay, that's a story that we haven't.

632
00:53:30,670 --> 00:53:32,490
Okay, a lot of good work is done.

633
00:53:32,770 --> 00:53:34,270
It just sounds like it was finalized.

634
00:53:34,730 --> 00:53:37,550
I don't think we can follow it.

635
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:39,830
But as initiates the planning and zoning,

636
00:53:40,030 --> 00:53:42,090
like they'd say in and then you guys

637
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:44,950
would approve what they'd recommend.

638
00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:48,410
Because as far as I understand how a general plan works,

639
00:53:48,690 --> 00:53:50,510
that initiates what the planning and zoning committee

640
00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:53,130
and then they would come to you guys for approval.

641
00:53:53,630 --> 00:54:01,470
So, I'm Kevin Smith, I was by county association government, like I've been a planner for many years.

642
00:54:01,530 --> 00:54:11,410
I retired and then I could only test on many reads, so I came back, so I get funding from this day.

643
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:15,070
So, my job is to help communities update their general plan.

644
00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:22,830
So, my services are not cost of the community, and I work with the Planning Commission and the City Council.

645
00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:29,330
So, in being able to go through that process about taking the general plan, the handout

646
00:54:29,330 --> 00:54:36,870
I gave you just under on the back, general plan process, but the planning commission is

647
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:43,610
the body under state law that develops the general plan at the end of that process, they

648
00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:52,810
hold the public hearing and then make a recommendation to the city council and then the

649
00:54:52,810 --> 00:54:59,810
with the general plan. So the general plan creates a clear vision for what you want to do as

650
00:54:59,810 --> 00:55:07,890
your community in whatever areas you want to do. And so part of my job is just to make sure

651
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:13,610
that you're addressing the things that are important to the community and also making it so that

652
00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:22,790
it's one is 160 pages long that kind of defiance itself against being read. So to make it just

653
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:28,470
simple that we can't to streamline it. There's a lot of information that kind of general

654
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:35,790
plan is a little throughout that's inspirational that made in the 90s that everything was

655
00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:43,010
done with the general plan, a lot of minutia that doesn't need to be there, right? So information

656
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:51,410
all that sort of thing. Well, that's music, that's a simple way, right? That's right. So I'm very

657
00:55:51,410 --> 00:55:59,830
and generally what I like to do is at some point have the city council give me the nod.

658
00:56:00,370 --> 00:56:05,470
I don't want to go down the road with a planning commission and then the city council just say,

659
00:56:05,690 --> 00:56:09,090
no, we don't want to do this. So how's that happening in the past?

660
00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:12,710
So I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

661
00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:15,450
So, I have a question.

662
00:56:16,590 --> 00:56:19,170
Modern income housing element for some communities.

663
00:56:19,690 --> 00:56:20,870
Is that a certain kind of thing?

664
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:23,010
Right, you're not required.

665
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:24,710
It links to reach 10,000.

666
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:27,370
It's a standard way to be part of that.

667
00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:28,870
Same for the water usage.

668
00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:29,730
Same for water.

669
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:38,100
So, the requirements are when use and transportation, which are already in there.

670
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:44,360
But then, anything you want to include, economic development, housing, any other

671
00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:55,040
And I made that kind of information and I did let through the minutes from the planning commission and saw that it kind of just curtailed in 2021.

672
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,540
So I'm sure there's a lot of good work out there that's already been done.

673
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:06,020
because of that, how you're on the process, depending if a lot of work has already been done,

674
00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:13,700
made a lot faster than that, and I also helped this map, some things that you could be

675
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:18,920
out of David, and any of that, you know, you've made a lot of them in the general plan.

676
00:57:23,580 --> 00:57:24,140
Any questions

677
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:25,120
for me?

678
00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:27,480
I was last thirty three

679
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:31,880
years ago.

680
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,960
I was last thirty three years ago.

681
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,940
I was a person doing everything.

682
00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:38,180
I was out of every five to ten years, so I was able to visit it.

683
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:40,280
What was the place for you?

684
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,240
In Kevin, are we thinking along the right terms of you?

685
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,860
Would you say as far as our situation with the House fire, the House fire, the House fire?

686
00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:58,600
I mean now it's probably a good time to look at our priorities and where we're headed.

687
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:04,940
And one of the functions of the general plan is when funding agencies come into look at things.

688
00:58:06,340 --> 00:58:12,680
If you were to apply for funding for recreation or whatever it might be, they looked to see if you actually

689
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,280
had planned for those sorts of things, rather than just saw some money available and said,

690
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:18,640
let's see if we can get this.

691
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:27,140
But it just helps to create a basis for going after funding that can benefit you completely.

692
00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:38,290
We give the night 94.

693
00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:40,330
There you go.

694
00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:41,850
There you go.

695
00:58:42,830 --> 00:58:44,910
Well, the dust off with yes.

696
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:46,090
There we go.

697
00:58:46,750 --> 00:58:49,650
We probably did that.

698
00:58:50,030 --> 00:58:52,450
I think it's fantastic tonight.

699
00:58:53,090 --> 00:58:54,010
It's all my foot.

700
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,520
We're forwarding.

701
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:00,200
We're forwarding.

702
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Can you touch on the resources that you have available, like I budgeted $2,500 or

703
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,940
general plan improvements with this fiscal year?

704
00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:20,100
Can you touch on that a little bit as far as, so all my times, there's no charge for my time.

705
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:25,740
I generally do the printing, that sort of thing, if you want a larger map, that would be

706
00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:31,300
the college and I didn't develop them out, but we're just the cost of printing them out.

707
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,440
So that's your decision.

708
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:34,540
Yeah.

709
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,900
So while I'm in a time commitment.

710
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:37,860
Yeah.

711
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,880
Well again, very timely the conversation we had.

712
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:46,620
I met Kevin through a good friend Roger Carter, who's been helping us with.

713
00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:50,970
Budget items and, you know, budget preparation and things like that.

714
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:56,010
So, I just appreciate you reaching out Kevin and we're going to use you.

715
00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:56,290
Okay.

716
00:59:56,830 --> 00:59:57,050
Good.

717
00:59:58,290 --> 00:59:59,350
All right, thank you.

718
00:59:59,350 --> 00:59:59,750
Thank you.

719
01:00:06,130 --> 01:00:06,850
Okay,

720
01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:12,900
agenda item 13, please get your change.

721
01:00:16,270 --> 01:00:21,170
Yes. I can talk to this one as well, Mayor.

722
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:39,050
So I think we're seeking clarification and we would love to have something in writing for this as frequently phone calls come into our office, asking about water connections and things like that.

723
01:00:39,050 --> 01:00:54,930
So residents who live outside of the beaver city limits but live within our water surface area are required to be to the city point four five acres of water for their connection.

724
01:00:55,530 --> 01:01:01,770
And that's just been kind of a practice or a tradition or just what we've done and but it's not written in code anywhere.

725
01:01:01,770 --> 01:01:19,910
It's not really in our free schedule anywhere, and so we kind of wanted to bring this up to the council because we are getting frequent calls about this, about this ask, I guess, and kind of proceed your process for what would require somebody.

726
01:01:21,170 --> 01:01:31,750
I think a lot of our concern is if somebody calls us on it and says where is that, where is that stated or where is that written and maybe just can help us understand if that's needed or not.

727
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:37,110
not, or it would be a good idea, but the longer perspective, especially Taylor Miranda,

728
01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:43,890
Patty, Binity, Paul, who are answering these calls, I think we would feel a lot of

729
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:48,750
come through it and knowing that it's written somewhere, and if that's the direction

730
01:01:48,750 --> 01:01:55,190
the council wants to continue to go, as far as requiring that D- did water outside of city

731
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:59,110
one of us, but in our service area, although we got to make sense,

732
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:01,610
Miranda,

733
01:02:01,610 --> 01:02:06,850
Taylor, my missing anything as far as justification for wanting that and writing somewhere

734
01:02:06,850 --> 01:02:10,230
It's a language to say right now.

735
01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:15,590
So currently, it's intercom we have an Alps head of City Woman's collection of code.

736
01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:16,030
Thank you.

737
01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:17,310
Does it specify?

738
01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:18,390
Does it specify?

739
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:18,930
Does it specify?

740
01:02:19,610 --> 01:02:24,750
When we changed our water position between 2000 and then we base it up in five-year average,

741
01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:27,430
we have calculations for our presidential homes.

742
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:28,630
All those things.

743
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:33,050
I mean, I haven't done one for Alzheimer's Statement, I think it would be the same thing.

744
01:02:33,070 --> 01:02:34,950
There's specific to the insides in the blood.

745
01:02:34,990 --> 01:02:38,390
You just know specific to the outside, the inside and the water surface.

746
01:02:38,650 --> 01:02:42,670
A lot of radiates to differentiate for outside, there's a slight, separate part of our waterways

747
01:02:42,670 --> 01:02:46,690
in your monthly usage into different parts of our outside, the inside city.

748
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:53,250
It just doesn't say where we're applying the point for radiographies for a transition.

749
01:02:53,250 --> 01:02:59,390
and not playing four or five feet is the average rate right now, right?

750
01:02:59,730 --> 01:03:06,850
Well, that's based on proposed use to enjoy fully fortified first single family residential, right?

751
01:03:07,770 --> 01:03:10,450
I don't know what your last five year average is, did we?

752
01:03:10,990 --> 01:03:13,750
By the way, they took away the last five year average.

753
01:03:14,290 --> 01:03:18,230
Yeah, here it go. The average would be lower than 0.45.

754
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:23,250
point four to five is just what we've always done, and at least from the last year.

755
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:28,910
The fourth high of P, but it's going to be very first met with Michael Friedman, who

756
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:33,490
was the water estimation. He recommended that that's typically like a fall part

757
01:03:33,490 --> 01:03:37,970
range of the average use of a single camera control. It changes a different range from

758
01:03:37,970 --> 01:03:42,110
the U.S. Press Reservation, or else that is going to let us stop with the P.

759
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:47,410
There's just no specification. So let me explain the state of Utah, as always said,

760
01:03:47,410 --> 01:03:54,510
that 0.45 acre sheet of depletable water, meaning when you bring in a water, it has to

761
01:03:54,510 --> 01:04:00,550
have had the air cat applied to us, so that's depletable. So that's a true use of

762
01:04:00,550 --> 01:04:07,470
no matter what you receive. The depletable water has, the state has not, the division

763
01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:12,470
of water, it has not changed our position on it, but the state of Utah passed a lot in

764
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:17,510
point 21 that said, you have to look at your last five year average, which I never thought

765
01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:19,310
was a wise way to do it.

766
01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:21,090
They have now taken that away.

767
01:04:22,070 --> 01:04:29,430
My last reading of it is that we have to have a justification on a basis to determine

768
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:30,270
the amount of water.

769
01:04:30,410 --> 01:04:37,090
We cannot require more water from the citizen than what it is taken, that we can prove that

770
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:38,130
that that whole would use.

771
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:41,390
No, it's not a particular home, but it's an average.

772
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:46,450
So whether you have five years, three years, one year, whatever, you have to be able to justify

773
01:04:46,990 --> 01:04:54,390
so that it doesn't become a taking in a violation of the United States and state of Utah's Constitution for a taking.

774
01:04:54,610 --> 01:04:56,250
They call it an exaction.

775
01:04:57,470 --> 01:05:00,570
So is there a difference between insights?

776
01:05:01,190 --> 01:05:03,350
Well, and that's right where I was going to go.

777
01:05:04,290 --> 01:05:09,550
So right now within our designated service area, you have to charge them exactly the same

778
01:05:09,550 --> 01:05:11,870
as you would as if they were in the city.

779
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:16,390
So I don't believe we're serving anybody outside a designated area,

780
01:05:16,510 --> 01:05:19,030
but if we are, then that's my contracting.

781
01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:20,690
That's something we're gonna have to address.

782
01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:22,810
But anybody that's with them,

783
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:24,790
I'm talking particularly about the growth,

784
01:05:25,310 --> 01:05:27,590
anybody that's within our designated service area,

785
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:29,870
because we did include the growth within our design.

786
01:05:30,190 --> 01:05:31,890
We would treat them the same way.

787
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:33,570
They would bring in the same amount of water

788
01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:35,890
as we require a citizen in our town to believe.

789
01:05:35,890 --> 01:05:40,210
We are all of you here with the city limits and not the parties.

790
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:42,730
There are a lot of people that are just...

791
01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:45,290
Well, we can do something with them.

792
01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:51,210
What the state of dashing says is, we have to treat them exactly like we would treat a social

793
01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:51,810
little side of it.

794
01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:55,490
Anybody would finish their business service area just treating exactly the same.

795
01:05:56,130 --> 01:05:58,630
So what I'm hearing is outside of our city limits.

796
01:05:58,930 --> 01:06:03,410
But in our service area, we would be able to pay an acquisition to just like show it.

797
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:08,910
And that's what we haven't done traditionally, as far as we put it last year.

798
01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:13,410
But to stay law changed last year, they're required that.

799
01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:19,070
So, I haven't really dug in deep to that new change, and I probably would do that this week now,

800
01:06:19,230 --> 01:06:20,030
but that's a step back.

801
01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:26,470
But just so you know that's my understanding is we have to be able to justify what we're doing.

802
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:28,750
It doesn't matter whether they're in our state or whether they're not.

803
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:34,090
We're a government entity that is taking something we have to justify the war we're taking

804
01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:36,530
It's justified by what they're using

805
01:06:36,530 --> 01:06:41,410
So we need to probably eliminate inside a state limit language at all.

806
01:06:41,550 --> 01:06:42,770
It doesn't matter to a relevant.

807
01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:45,650
If there have been a service service in the service service area,

808
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:49,730
We need to define that as the service area because really that's what we are now.

809
01:06:49,850 --> 01:06:55,170
So if I'm the service area, remember you can always charge more if there's justifications to charge more

810
01:06:55,170 --> 01:07:02,250
So if we had people go over on the bench by the B, we know that up we're there and we had

811
01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:07,330
on the border up there in the cost of another $10,000 a thousand gallons to get to that

812
01:07:07,330 --> 01:07:08,310
over a very low level.

813
01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:09,910
We can charge those citizens more.

814
01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:14,370
Because as long as we justify what we're trying to think that understanding and that

815
01:07:14,370 --> 01:07:15,990
elasticity was there.

816
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:20,430
I think that'll help our office build the foot, those calls, and be at least a

817
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:23,330
much more consistent in what we're telling people.

818
01:07:23,330 --> 01:07:29,350
But we have the understanding that if they're outside to the limits, it's kind of a different set of, yeah, I respond.

819
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:45,780
We have the pause button because that's just a nice contrary to the last discussion that we had, the last discussion we had, we said we could charge, we could require the water outside of the city's needs.

820
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,100
Outside the designated service area, I think you could do that.

821
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:54,040
It's, and we maybe got confused in our language.

822
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,440
Remember, designated service area is treated as if it were within our city.

823
01:07:58,460 --> 01:08:03,560
Remember, such as we have a lot of towns, just choose to put the designated area in the town limits,

824
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,200
and that's it.

825
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:09,800
I hope that if they were outside of our city limits, but within our service area, they were,

826
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,360
they were all out to get.

827
01:08:13,630 --> 01:08:15,750
That's outside, because we should be sure.

828
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:21,130
Now, I don't know where I could with my staff, but we know a lot, we'll need to look at it.

829
01:08:21,550 --> 01:08:22,770
So, just give me a talk to each other.

830
01:08:23,250 --> 01:08:28,450
Another layer to that is, if they're outside our square service area, we legally can tell them, no.

831
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:29,390
That's right.

832
01:08:29,770 --> 01:08:32,990
But when we do not, we can also do with our service search.

833
01:08:33,090 --> 01:08:37,890
But if they're outside, we can tell them to feed.

834
01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:42,110
But if they're outside of our service area, and not give them that position option.

835
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:46,810
Yeah, I think that's probably correct, but anything within the service area needs to be consistent.

836
01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:53,110
Yeah, so the service area really is your, so speak your town boundaries for purposes of your service area.

837
01:08:54,350 --> 01:09:00,910
There is just such an opportunity to say, and that's under a total of 10, 7, and it feels about 10 or 22,

838
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,940
those two sections.

839
01:09:03,940 --> 01:09:04,640
I

840
01:09:08,730 --> 01:09:17,870
think I could better to make sure to use outside of our service district, but say the language again inside of it.

841
01:09:18,230 --> 01:09:25,130
So, we don't have many better outside of our service area that are asking for water.

842
01:09:25,770 --> 01:09:27,910
It is most of them if they're outside of our service area.

843
01:09:28,050 --> 01:09:28,910
They're outside of our city.

844
01:09:28,910 --> 01:09:35,250
on this and there, we've just basically, we've had up to Brad's discretion, but most of the

845
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:40,950
properties that we get are raised about are in the global area of new land up there, and I've been

846
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:45,650
requiring for it. And some of that here in Manorville, we've got a little red on the border.

847
01:09:46,350 --> 01:09:50,650
So, we're outside of the city limits, but part of waterlines in their properties, so they're outside

848
01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:55,650
of our city limits, and outside of our service area. So, on those of you, it was a long track.

849
01:09:55,650 --> 01:10:02,650
We have to say yes because it's tricky though because the water line's right there, but they're

850
01:10:02,650 --> 01:10:08,770
technically outside of the inner property of the boundary and so we can't say no, we want to say

851
01:10:08,770 --> 01:10:15,130
yeah, I mean it's close to the proximity, it's hard, it's hard to say no when it's so close.

852
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:24,990
But the majority of our calls come from people wanting to participate in, right?

853
01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:28,710
there and we get a lot of calls now,

854
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:35,970
and then seeing our service area, now, right, because

855
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:40,930
not all those households that we're set for now, water to them, and then we just did the

856
01:10:40,930 --> 01:10:45,010
big water project up there, so that it kind of changed the scope of everything up there.

857
01:10:45,770 --> 01:10:48,150
I don't know how long that was doing right now.

858
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,560
Part of the project goes up that way, right?

859
01:10:53,940 --> 01:10:56,000
Yeah. We can point that stuff. That's what we're saying. Yeah.

860
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:07,950
just to patient and that support, the amount of safety required by using the help work.

861
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:12,370
We're in the end, we're going to try to light the inside of the field.

862
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:19,890
Well again, if we keep saving side-saving, it's not a thing we need to, we categorize our vocabulary a little bit.

863
01:11:20,010 --> 01:11:22,810
It needs to be inside our destiny of service area and health sector.

864
01:11:23,250 --> 01:11:27,310
So within our destiny of service area, we treat them the same.

865
01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:30,730
Outside of destiny of service area, we don't.

866
01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:36,610
we can contract and it says you're supposed to enter the contract for the each one of those.

867
01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:46,850
It says it's so in 10, 8, 22, 7,

868
01:11:47,210 --> 01:11:51,710
the municipality displays water outside the municipality's designated water source area,

869
01:11:52,270 --> 01:11:56,690
it shall display the water only by the contract and so we'll clear them in the contract

870
01:11:56,690 --> 01:11:59,990
in terms of the condition of which the contract can be committed.

871
01:12:01,150 --> 01:12:06,570
I've been legal to that is because I said this before and I'm sure we may remember this

872
01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:08,830
because we had a lot of security, all of you, as in the world.

873
01:12:09,730 --> 01:12:13,150
But my signal was, I don't think we can go over the globe.

874
01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:16,450
And we required them to weigh a half a nation for the water.

875
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:19,890
And then I said one day, as we were talking about

876
01:12:19,890 --> 01:12:21,910
pending the new lines and doing all that,

877
01:12:21,950 --> 01:12:23,590
and then I said one day, he came in and said,

878
01:12:24,010 --> 01:12:25,930
never mind, we're not service to you with water anymore.

879
01:12:26,190 --> 01:12:27,970
Actually, they gave us them after you came for water.

880
01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:31,070
My position was risk stuck with service to them with water

881
01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:33,450
because we took the water to give them service.

882
01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:35,430
We had that discussion.

883
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:40,950
So, you know, it's always been that you hadn't described it with water now, because we took

884
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:42,630
the water to supply it.

885
01:12:42,750 --> 01:12:49,370
So, what does that put a new homeowner in, didn't have the option in 2024 to reach a

886
01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:54,610
water from them, and then made a water bar system, can we not take water from them to add

887
01:12:54,610 --> 01:12:55,950
that to our system now?

888
01:12:56,330 --> 01:13:01,610
Okay, so that, you know, so just like you just explained, we took water from people in the

889
01:13:01,610 --> 01:13:07,450
to have a daily water system. Right? Because that was the language we said you're going to

890
01:13:07,450 --> 01:13:13,930
you're going to either hit a money or find water, right? Isn't that we gave everybody that

891
01:13:13,930 --> 01:13:18,050
option? I don't think so I take it when there was that said you're going to, so when they were

892
01:13:18,050 --> 01:13:21,750
in the world, we said you had to try to swallow, we won't connect you to the tariff system,

893
01:13:21,930 --> 01:13:25,190
you'll also fly you through water. So all those things will supply that to the water,

894
01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:29,290
so we could then put the system up there. So what is that with somebody who's,

895
01:13:30,690 --> 01:13:39,370
I think our system was already up there, the U.S. and two weeks wide, and whoever put it in, remember it was two weeks wide to a lot of them.

896
01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:45,150
And so it didn't mean for our COVID-19 and things that we were never put it in, connected to our system.

897
01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:48,250
So we installed the system and we really didn't give them water.

898
01:13:48,710 --> 01:13:50,790
Yeah, we told them they had to give us water to your system.

899
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:57,050
When we upgrade into those lines, we initially tried to do a special assessment area,

900
01:13:58,030 --> 01:14:09,050
And we couldn't do it because I decided about it, so we turned to the county member, we had that big vegan and the county was going to do it, then something happened, the county decided they were going to do it.

901
01:14:10,050 --> 01:14:17,650
And eventually we decided where we supplied it with water for so long, and they didn't give it a certain water race, where we were going to be born and born and born and born.

902
01:14:18,130 --> 01:14:26,490
I don't think we're doing a specialist, that's the moment we're not charging them more, like a specialist, that's meant for everyone's lines.

903
01:14:26,490 --> 01:14:31,310
we're just paying $20 or $20 or $20.

904
01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:36,130
So they're paying $20, so they're paying $20, so they're paying for the upgraded system.

905
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:41,550
Okay, so they're paying for it, so the other people would again communicate that same upgraded

906
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:42,050
milk.

907
01:14:42,850 --> 01:14:48,330
And that's justifiable because again, it doesn't deserve to say, if you can justify why you're

908
01:14:48,330 --> 01:14:51,690
charging them more, you can do that, and they're not trying to profit it.

909
01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:53,650
So the project is the justification.

910
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,640
So now they have five,

911
01:15:06,890 --> 01:15:16,210
all right, I think we need to give Justin a couple weeks to look through that and make sure that we're also taking the same language.

912
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:26,340
I feel like it's much more satisfied after this discussion, so you have a degree.

913
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:38,180
Justin, you're a little bit more sections of code and kind of update them or tell me where to add and change, or whatever we need to do with us to have our code or select that.

914
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,560
anything else.

915
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,060
That's a big agenda

916
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,120
item 14, a marathon discussion.

917
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:13,900
Yeah, so in May of this year, a guy who, I'm figuring out run-up for his name as Lyle,

918
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:18,200
he intended City Council meeting to discuss the upcoming Beter City,

919
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:26,460
Beaver, Canyon Half-Marathon, and our continued involvement, as far as financial support for the marathon,

920
01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:33,900
I'm due to the fire, we all know the Marathon was canceled, but in denial, Ryle has still

921
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:39,940
in terms of costs with that and he is seek, I believe one of the cost is they did a virtual

922
01:16:39,940 --> 01:16:48,740
event, virtual run, and he still issued prizes for that, T-shirts, trophies, medals, whatever

923
01:16:48,740 --> 01:16:57,720
provided but he's still asking for that amount by the city to be to be honored that $5,000.

924
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:05,080
My recommendation due to some of the cost that he's incurred, not knowing that the event was going to be canceled,

925
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,480
but what would it be to honor that?

926
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:12,960
It was supposed to be well, so we can now share the fire started.

927
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:18,420
era after. We were hand him out water the day that he was supposed to be able to.

928
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:19,800
It was twenty-seven.

929
01:17:20,660 --> 01:17:26,160
And we reached out to him to ask specifically that money was earmarked for something specific,

930
01:17:26,980 --> 01:17:32,360
and he said, well, due to the virtual nature of the race, how that into that piece, he spent that.

931
01:17:33,340 --> 01:17:39,500
I was closer to it close to the five thousand as far as the virtual legs of the race,

932
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:42,420
things he sent out to the virtual runners.

933
01:17:45,170 --> 01:17:47,010
I will tell you, in this sponsorship world,

934
01:17:47,250 --> 01:17:55,450
it is not customary to fund an event that did not happen. For example, the Tusher and the

935
01:17:55,450 --> 01:18:03,650
Crusher issued refunds to all of their sponsors after they canceled their race. I was going

936
01:18:03,650 --> 01:18:09,990
to say the same thing. I've had a couple of races canceled over the year and they have never

937
01:18:10,710 --> 01:18:16,570
not given my money back or the option to roll it to like the next year.

938
01:18:17,170 --> 01:18:24,270
So I, I wasn't signed up to this place, but I just kind of struggled with how it was handled.

939
01:18:29,650 --> 01:18:34,190
I suppose it wasn't published in the past or in the past, because this was the first year

940
01:18:34,190 --> 01:18:35,910
that underground and ours taken over.

941
01:18:36,170 --> 01:18:38,770
It's great. It's been done with a group here in town.

942
01:18:41,330 --> 01:18:46,690
And he has said that in past years, that the previous time he hosted for the organizers

943
01:18:46,690 --> 01:18:51,850
of the race, he tested it, usually they used this money for like the Puerto Pines expenses,

944
01:18:52,170 --> 01:18:53,210
that was quite crowded.

945
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:55,110
But they never had an error personally.

946
01:18:55,670 --> 01:18:58,110
They just chose that they would take it either.

947
01:18:58,450 --> 01:19:05,750
So I want to say though, we did, we bought like shirts for them because they had to have an

948
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:17,150
voice in. Yeah, we told them to give them that money that had to be an invoice. It has to be an invoice and so on. And we would do that invoice up to $5,000 for the proposal.

949
01:19:17,150 --> 01:19:21,970
Of course, it was not just a check. There has to be an invoice that shows that we're paying for something.

950
01:19:21,970 --> 01:19:24,550
We don't just give money. It's against those.

951
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:29,950
Yeah, I think another year was quarter highs because we paid.

952
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:35,150
I want to say George. Well, I'm pretty sure when he was here, we told you,

953
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:44,490
Yeah, we couldn't just give him the money, he had to bring in a recede, basically we don't take care of that.

954
01:19:44,510 --> 01:19:48,650
I think he's prepared with him, he said that it was just...

955
01:19:53,260 --> 01:19:56,640
I mean, it's a horrible summer.

956
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,260
I feel badly that he canceled his event.

957
01:20:01,940 --> 01:20:09,320
But he recede does not bear the responsibility to shoulder the risk associated with an event that he owns.

958
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:21,280
it's not our job. If he wants to be risked of her, she should get insurance. It's just not

959
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,140
our responsibility.

960
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,900
So, I mean, I'm open to a discussion, but I have a hard time

961
01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:35,280
funding and you then they got canceled. It's just not. It's not what happens. I mean,

962
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:47,620
The day after the Crusher and the Tussher cancelled their event, their organizer was on the phone with me at the cleanry and they issued us to check for the full refund.

963
01:20:49,940 --> 01:20:50,680
I'm

964
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:06,240
just, I have a hard time when private business owners try to transpose their risks onto the shoulders of the city.

965
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,240
It's not our job, we're not the owners of the event.

966
01:21:12,910 --> 01:21:16,670
That's what I was going to say, I have a target time

967
01:21:16,670 --> 01:21:20,010
doing it where so many of our other businesses

968
01:21:20,010 --> 01:21:23,530
are struggling in town because of lack of things.

969
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:27,910
You know, I had at our time given the two in where,

970
01:21:28,210 --> 01:21:30,030
and then some of the healths come in and say,

971
01:21:30,170 --> 01:21:30,950
where's ours?

972
01:21:32,210 --> 01:21:34,650
Fundamentally, I think there's some basic question

973
01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:36,110
you look at.

974
01:21:36,170 --> 01:21:37,730
Why do we sponsor these events?

975
01:21:37,730 --> 01:21:41,830
So why do we put up many tools for people that come over and be correct?

976
01:21:43,630 --> 01:21:49,770
So that's the reason we do, that's how you justify paying that money, it's an economic benefit to the town.

977
01:21:50,750 --> 01:21:57,490
Listen, the individual did a, you know, chose to go ahead with the race on the virtual, which means everybody ran,

978
01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:03,830
they'll track a course, I presume, and therefore no business was brought into the tunnel.

979
01:22:04,990 --> 01:22:09,930
I would have thought he would call the city and say, this is what I'm thinking about doing differently.

980
01:22:11,570 --> 01:22:15,570
You know, is this a little petal to the city because it keeps you caught.

981
01:22:15,690 --> 01:22:20,150
No, you won't from here to you, or this is a little justification for that.

982
01:22:20,150 --> 01:22:29,970
But if there's not, then there's no benefit to the town and I think you're taking...

983
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:36,700
Commonly funds, anybody want to submit a letter? Can we show them to me at a letterly budget?

984
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:42,060
So, what I shall ask you to say, I was going to say, I think we should call the minutes and see what he asks for,

985
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:48,600
because I think he said he wanted to share its pay for the runners that were coming to our community in two participants.

986
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,980
And those runners didn't come to our community to participate.

987
01:22:52,380 --> 01:22:59,860
So, there were those are not the shirts we paid for. Those were shirts he paid for for a virtual run, not the ones we were paid for.

988
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:09,360
And I agree with what Justin just said, we before that cost so our community benefits from and we didn't have runners come here and it is

989
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:24,320
When it is that setting this is a horrible summer that we've had for our community, but again, along with what lunch just said, that's hard to look at our citizens and our other businesses and say, hey we just gave them 5,000 dollars.

990
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:31,580
Well, it was a year and a half, so I say no, yeah, I'm with you. I say no.

991
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:37,370
I think it's a hard

992
01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:44,250
I'm talking to people out of town that said they're not going to run the race anymore because of how this almost happened

993
01:23:44,250 --> 01:23:48,510
Yeah, so not only did it not help us this time

994
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:55,690
In my interest in the future of how it was housed has just pointed it in how it was handled

995
01:23:56,350 --> 01:24:03,320
I think it could have been communicated a lot better to a lot of people.

996
01:24:05,820 --> 01:24:08,740
We talked about it that day, we were having water out of it.

997
01:24:08,980 --> 01:24:13,280
And then 10 extra people that were saying, hey, they won't refund it or anything.

998
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:17,380
They were upset.

999
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:25,680
Sounds good.

1000
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:32,200
I don't want to be called harder to.

1001
01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:34,380
I feel that it's tough.

1002
01:24:34,380 --> 01:25:02,660
I just don't think I can get to work, I feel like we should support the event that he can't so, you know, he made a decision to do a virtual run, didn't consult with us on that, but the entire nature is an end change, and he should have consulted with us, I just don't think we should issue the $5,000, and whatever, whatever the amount was.

1003
01:25:02,660 --> 01:25:03,140
There

1004
01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:08,900
are just two, just to know where things were,

1005
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,860
but it was an only exposure cancellation key to the city office,

1006
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,820
and told us that you would be puzzling.

1007
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,340
And I think you was going to hold it,

1008
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,340
uh, personally, but one of those two,

1009
01:25:21,500 --> 01:25:22,900
I decided to further raise the board,

1010
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,380
to have an opportunity to pick up their,

1011
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,020
like, raise packet, still,

1012
01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:31,540
and ask for the space to be that way to move the right it.

1013
01:25:31,780 --> 01:25:32,640
But, um,

1014
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:44,780
He didn't ask the speed to Council at that time when he spoke with us in the front, he just mentioned that he was changing the race to a virtual race and asked for a place to disperse that.

1015
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:56,220
Okay, any further discussion on that? Is anybody have a different opinion?

1016
01:26:09,670 --> 01:26:12,550
We'll make sure to communicate about mayor with him.

1017
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:23,570
And Boomerland and our office staff, you can just lay the blame on the council, you can say no.

1018
01:26:23,730 --> 01:26:33,890
The council based on all considerations are to not to fund the request based on the fact that you then was cancelled.

1019
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:44,940
And if he would like to come speaking with the Council, he's more than welcome to.

1020
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:52,560
So, what is the agenda item 15, the waterway discussion?

1021
01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:54,480
Yes sir.

1022
01:26:56,460 --> 01:27:06,360
So, a small group of residents came in, set up a meeting with me recently to discuss specific intersection

1023
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,840
of town that is, yeah, it is, sorry, okay.

1024
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,760
You're a member of the synonymous, yeah, I should have known this one.

1025
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:20,500
This intersection subject to frequent flooding, and they were inquiring about the

1026
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:26,500
possibility of installing a waterway there, there is a ditch, it's on 300

1027
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:32,100
north, and full east, I believe, is the intersection, there's also a ditch coming as

1028
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:35,260
that infrastructure right there through the intersection.

1029
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,240
So I asked that the ditch company being involved in the conversation,

1030
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:41,600
conversation went really well.

1031
01:27:42,780 --> 01:27:49,260
I communicated to them that due to the recent flooding in the damage caused by the flooding

1032
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:49,800
disaster.

1033
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:54,680
The T-Bulfills is not been a waterway, it would have prevented what happened at the T-Bulfills,

1034
01:27:55,480 --> 01:28:01,220
but maybe for future flood events, we may be able to safeguard a little bit

1035
01:28:01,220 --> 01:28:04,060
some public public property there.

1036
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:09,140
I think we have some interest in being a partner.

1037
01:28:09,660 --> 01:28:15,240
With that waterway discussion, I also made it clear to them that the

1038
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:21,380
concerned neighbors would also be a partner in that waterway project

1039
01:28:21,380 --> 01:28:23,320
and the big company as well.

1040
01:28:23,620 --> 01:28:28,580
And if that's the case, if there are willing participants such as

1041
01:28:28,580 --> 01:28:36,800
residents and ditch company willing to put some skin in the game for an improved infrastructure

1042
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,740
piece right there and in that particular intersection that maybe something we want to consider

1043
01:28:40,740 --> 01:28:41,740
as a city.

1044
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,960
I did go as far as reaching out to an engineering firm to kind of give you some preliminary

1045
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:53,800
information on what it would take to adequately, what would require to adequately build a

1046
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:58,980
way there that's effective and something we don't just hurry and do, but it's in effect

1047
01:28:58,980 --> 01:28:59,480
those.

1048
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:05,860
So if we did do this, I would want to make sure we do it right, but it's not going to

1049
01:29:05,860 --> 01:29:10,780
be free, but I think if we have people willing to put some skin in the game, it might be

1050
01:29:10,780 --> 01:29:14,840
it might be a good result and a good opportunity for the city to improve infrastructure

1051
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,100
right where that intersection.

1052
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,380
So that's the just of it.

1053
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:21,720
The meeting went well.

1054
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,200
We had a good discussion.

1055
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:31,410
And after discussed with you, Mayor, you requested that it be brought up to council.

1056
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:35,800
Perfect.

1057
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:37,980
Thank you.

1058
01:29:38,620 --> 01:29:41,120
Many questions or comments on this.

1059
01:29:41,580 --> 01:29:42,060
The council.

1060
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,140
I would, I guess, one of the pieces of information that might be relevant

1061
01:29:49,140 --> 01:29:57,840
and get information to the council to hear most recent waterway that we installed was the one at the

1062
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,980
pittic order from the library and then turn on the camera.

1063
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,140
And that was about $13,000.

1064
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:20,840
The residents in the ditch companies definitely bound and determined to have that cost, much lower than that, and they think it can be much lower than.

1065
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:26,700
Anyways, I told them we wouldn't entertain even the thought that it was out engineering,

1066
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,780
so they're going to be at least those costs if we were to proceed and being a part of this project.

1067
01:30:32,780 --> 01:30:34,760
I don't know what the final cost would be.

1068
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,000
You know, as far as labor goes and things like that, I think we can do a lot of it,

1069
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:43,220
with some help from the digital company and local residents involved.

1070
01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:52,470
So if we get it to surveyed and paid care out,

1071
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:55,470
like Jones in the middle takes care of it.

1072
01:30:55,990 --> 01:31:01,770
Or they can put money up for that part of it.

1073
01:31:02,270 --> 01:31:04,210
I don't know if it comes out of $150,000.

1074
01:31:04,710 --> 01:31:07,430
Yeah, wait a minute, we don't want to do this after all.

1075
01:31:07,670 --> 01:31:09,410
They can't back out of, right?

1076
01:31:09,670 --> 01:31:10,730
Those are good questions.

1077
01:31:11,070 --> 01:31:12,970
We didn't get that far into it.

1078
01:31:13,490 --> 01:31:16,470
I just told them I'd do a preliminary phone call

1079
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:19,130
to the engineering firm to see what will take.

1080
01:31:19,130 --> 01:31:25,030
Um, nothing's been pledged as far as portion, portion, you know, cost, sharing, or things

1081
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:25,490
like that.

1082
01:31:25,550 --> 01:31:30,390
So that's, that would, I would think be the next set in the process and I would agree

1083
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:31,150
to you.

1084
01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:36,370
We don't want to be stuck with a bill, but it's not going to be entirely, you know, divided

1085
01:31:36,370 --> 01:31:38,090
three ways in my opinion.

1086
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:43,990
I don't think it's fair that the taxpayers, to do that without having some assurance

1087
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:48,390
We're going to tell page of that assessment, that initial assessment.

1088
01:31:51,020 --> 01:31:52,620
Hey, could I propose this?

1089
01:31:52,880 --> 01:32:08,450
Could we put out a request for proposal to an engineering, see how much an engineer will

1090
01:32:08,450 --> 01:32:19,430
I've just to engineer that cross-cutter, we can solicit bid and see what that price tag is.

1091
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:24,390
If it's under 10,000, I would say, okay, the city can engineer it.

1092
01:32:24,690 --> 01:32:27,350
I mean, I'm just thinking, I'll allow you.

1093
01:32:30,930 --> 01:32:34,590
I'm speaking just for the design, just for the engineering design.

1094
01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:41,450
But it shouldn't cost us anything to get a request for a proposal from

1095
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:45,240
engineering groups, right?

1096
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,040
I'm thinking about that clearly.

1097
01:32:47,900 --> 01:32:48,480
I think you are.

1098
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,120
I have reached out.

1099
01:32:50,220 --> 01:32:51,880
I've had an initial conversation.

1100
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,580
Just to kind of get the ball rolling.

1101
01:32:56,020 --> 01:32:57,380
Nothing's been decided.

1102
01:32:58,240 --> 01:32:58,640
As of yet.

1103
01:32:58,860 --> 01:33:01,220
But yeah, I think we could pump the brakes on that.

1104
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,440
Even in RSP.

1105
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:04,940
Did you?

1106
01:33:04,940 --> 01:33:13,020
Did in your conversation did you get any any idea what it would cost us to engineer them?

1107
01:33:13,460 --> 01:33:14,240
No, no.

1108
01:33:14,820 --> 01:33:16,120
I just basically made them aware.

1109
01:33:17,020 --> 01:33:17,720
Put it on the radar.

1110
01:33:18,780 --> 01:33:20,180
Let's continue the conversation.

1111
01:33:21,180 --> 01:33:22,500
I have council meeting on Tuesday.

1112
01:33:22,820 --> 01:33:23,700
Let's talk after that.

1113
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,100
So basically just a conversation.

1114
01:33:27,780 --> 01:33:29,500
I don't think much has been done.

1115
01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:38,020
But I think we just do a little bit of a little bit of a little bit on and on a design

1116
01:33:38,020 --> 01:33:44,680
for a cross-cutter right there and we see what that bill is to get a design and then we

1117
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:45,340
agree.

1118
01:33:45,740 --> 01:33:51,540
That's my Indian term, I don't know if anybody has a different opinion.

1119
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,520
Can I ask you a couple of questions here for clarification?

1120
01:33:57,480 --> 01:33:59,120
Who's water is in the ditch?

1121
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:01,340
The ditch companies?

1122
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:07,000
are we part of this company? No. So there's all the flooding and

1123
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:08,640
result of the ditch company.

1124
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,360
That's just some to be an adequate. That's a good question.

1125
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:20,660
If it is, then why isn't ditch company just taking care of it? Because they, so we

1126
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:27,160
that's that question and my answer is not great. But they say that years back, years

1127
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:33,780
ago, there was a group with the city to reroute it by the pool and that did something to

1128
01:34:33,780 --> 01:34:38,520
the infrastructure right there that put the city on that little bit.

1129
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:42,720
And again, that's not a great answer, it's not a federal answer, I don't even understand

1130
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:48,700
the response that that was kind of there that responds to that question, it's why is a city

1131
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:51,480
even involved in this if it's not our ditch walk.

1132
01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:59,860
If it's not a ditch, it's not a ditch water, I'm just trying to figure out, we thought we had to find out why we're doing it.

1133
01:35:00,220 --> 01:35:03,420
If there's something we didn't need to do, we were not.

1134
01:35:05,380 --> 01:35:16,000
If I can get a better response, I think we were told that the city had something we, in our history agreed to just pay in some way.

1135
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:24,480
Yeah, there's nothing on record but I can find we do, we do typically place many excavators

1136
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:31,580
right there, you have a cemetery in the fall park and we, we have traditionally cleaned out

1137
01:35:31,580 --> 01:35:37,720
those, you know, you know, when debris fills, the city typically has cleaned those out

1138
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:43,400
those grades, but the discussion in the meeting I had last week was we need to be a secondary

1139
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:49,460
options for that, as that's not a priority to the city. We can help us for available, but

1140
01:35:49,460 --> 01:35:56,760
that needs to be the digital companies. They need to get a search responder to that and

1141
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:01,300
clean that out. We can help us for available, but currently we're not available from my trade now.

1142
01:36:02,380 --> 01:36:08,100
There's there's two dishes right there. Yeah, one goes through round and runs around three

1143
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:11,060
100 more, and that's the one we're talking about.

1144
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:17,140
And the bubbles are right there for underdies, and then because of the way the road is right there,

1145
01:36:17,300 --> 01:36:22,060
kind of spills over and runs that way. Those works 200, those works 200.

1146
01:36:22,580 --> 01:36:26,180
And then the majority of the issue comes from 400 right there,

1147
01:36:26,180 --> 01:36:30,480
come out of the phone, or the cemetery where the piles are right there,

1148
01:36:30,740 --> 01:36:35,460
and then all the fields and runs down the side of the road in front of the park and goes,

1149
01:36:36,020 --> 01:36:37,600
and continues to run to 200.

1150
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,600
So we had a two dishes that caused problems for those property and the problem.

1151
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,300
So it's the same.

1152
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:47,200
My mother's, both in were asked at a clean up by both companies.

1153
01:36:47,580 --> 01:36:47,820
We're asked.

1154
01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:49,900
And all causes problems for the city.

1155
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:52,220
And that would be our different windows.

1156
01:36:53,020 --> 01:36:56,180
Those homeowners in damages are all parks.

1157
01:36:56,940 --> 01:37:00,400
I can't, I can't, there are lesions, everything that they're there.

1158
01:37:00,460 --> 01:37:01,740
I guess, can't figure that out.

1159
01:37:01,820 --> 01:37:03,040
I grew up in the farm.

1160
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:12,140
And we clean out ditches and the companies go down and at the moment you go and you clean

1161
01:37:12,140 --> 01:37:15,640
your ditch off and you got a screen there and you clean your screen off and you get all

1162
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:20,060
the debris off it so a lot of flows and why aren't they cleaning their ditches?

1163
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:24,960
So I did say I did say I did say traditionally for whatever reason the city has been

1164
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:29,960
help, help, maybe even over helping that situation, as far as I understand.

1165
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:36,840
Maybe I'm lacking information and lacking the history of that, the tradition of that, but I don't see

1166
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:42,100
much sense in the city being dispersed to go do that. And the ones you're seeing in the phone

1167
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:51,320
calls of people who are frustrated or upset, I haven't understood that. Nobody's really been able

1168
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:56,730
to give a really good answer other than that's just always housed them done. That's always how

1169
01:37:56,730 --> 01:38:05,450
done it. And I don't know. I think we can be helpers. We can be secondary and therefore available.

1170
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:11,530
I'm happy to send guys out to help. But I'm hopeful that it's already been addressed by the

1171
01:38:11,530 --> 01:38:21,450
little companies. I think we need to utilize this as an opportunity. So my proposal is that

1172
01:38:21,450 --> 01:38:23,710
we submit every Western proposal,

1173
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:26,770
very engineering across gutter right there,

1174
01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:28,650
which by the way, I think you cross gutter

1175
01:38:28,650 --> 01:38:31,010
is a great idea right there.

1176
01:38:31,490 --> 01:38:33,510
I don't think it solves every problem,

1177
01:38:33,670 --> 01:38:34,910
but I do think it was hell,

1178
01:38:35,090 --> 01:38:40,130
but I will tell you that that ditch company right there

1179
01:38:40,130 --> 01:38:43,230
is getting ready to put their ditch in pipe.

1180
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:46,490
So, you know, we need to make sure

1181
01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:47,350
that if we're getting,

1182
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:48,890
if we're gonna spearhead an effort

1183
01:38:48,890 --> 01:38:50,770
to go get a cross gutter installed,

1184
01:38:50,770 --> 01:38:54,770
But there's some kind of an accounting earn-in tape right there.

1185
01:38:54,910 --> 01:38:56,090
Also it's not an elephant all.

1186
01:38:56,270 --> 01:38:59,050
But when they put their type in.

1187
01:38:59,370 --> 01:39:02,130
Yeah, definitely recommend some type in contractual agreement.

1188
01:39:02,290 --> 01:39:06,210
You know, if we're doing it forward as being a partner in this and it pans out.

1189
01:39:07,050 --> 01:39:11,730
And just our discussions, like I've mentioned earlier, both the residents,

1190
01:39:12,110 --> 01:39:14,150
side of it, and the ditch companies side of it,

1191
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:16,910
were willing to be participants in that.

1192
01:39:17,650 --> 01:39:19,610
Again, no dollar amounts were discussed with.

1193
01:39:19,610 --> 01:39:27,210
I agree Matthew, and we would definitely want that under contract to make sure people are paying their

1194
01:39:27,210 --> 01:39:34,090
pressure for their share, whatever they are, and that's the last point along those lines

1195
01:39:34,090 --> 01:39:42,630
as I would just say we utilize this entire negotiation process as a reset for those ditches

1196
01:39:42,630 --> 01:40:08,690
and use water, it is, and it's months, I guess my, I do, good matter in different, we are in the equation number one because we have precedents for whatever reason, boom which correct, I don't have any history on it, but somehow we have been responsible to claim that bitch, right there, that quote, I don't know why, but that is correct, that is a correct same.

1197
01:40:08,690 --> 01:40:15,690
And, too, we have property that is being damaged by the overflow of this debt, that

1198
01:40:15,690 --> 01:40:26,470
fills city world right away, is a drainage, and so, you know, we're in the conversation

1199
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:33,010
because we have precedent and we also have property that's being impacted by it.

1200
01:40:33,010 --> 01:40:39,410
If there's a way for us to collaboratively move forward, I'm in a favor of it to solve a problem,

1201
01:40:39,950 --> 01:40:44,110
but I think the need to use it as an opportunity to read and go to the expectation.

1202
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,200
I agree and

1203
01:40:53,460 --> 01:40:58,780
I'll talk to you about this offline, but I've had some additional conversations with

1204
01:40:59,620 --> 01:41:05,400
since you were meeting and I've had it, you know, it's just, I've had it as recent as today

1205
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,500
before this meeting about this exact issue,

1206
01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:10,280
not from this particular issue,

1207
01:41:10,660 --> 01:41:11,540
but it's something, but others,

1208
01:41:12,980 --> 01:41:15,860
it's something I think, like you said.

1209
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,040
And I just think now's a good time with everything going on.

1210
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,000
Our priorities are shifting a little bit

1211
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:28,220
and the response, the response that is coming from us

1212
01:41:28,220 --> 01:41:29,380
and we're trying to be consistent

1213
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,120
in the public works department is that we have other priorities

1214
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,380
right now, we cannot get to that right now.

1215
01:41:35,380 --> 01:41:40,520
We're going to need out of the ditch company and when we're available, we will come out.

1216
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,120
We also need a fish to fry right now to be honest.

1217
01:41:46,180 --> 01:41:50,180
Yeah, I couldn't agree more, but there's also an argument.

1218
01:41:52,970 --> 01:41:55,510
A ditch company can't have it both ways.

1219
01:41:56,730 --> 01:42:01,210
So I'll just thinking out loud here, but for example,

1220
01:42:01,210 --> 01:42:08,570
The ditch company of their own free will, their own deletion, they figured out another

1221
01:42:08,570 --> 01:42:16,750
diversion down the river, passed the grizzly diversion, and they just diverted the water,

1222
01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:20,810
they didn't talk to the city about that, they didn't talk to anybody about that, and technically

1223
01:42:20,810 --> 01:42:26,310
they shouldn't have to, they just, it said they should say water, they can figure out

1224
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:28,230
a right and divert it, good for them.

1225
01:42:28,230 --> 01:42:35,850
So that's great, but on the back side when things are going wrong then they can't rely on the city to fix all of their problems.

1226
01:42:36,770 --> 01:42:38,130
We're not there insurance company.

1227
01:42:40,130 --> 01:42:48,450
So, hey, the point I'm making is that this company can't have a little place either the city's in or we're not in.

1228
01:42:48,490 --> 01:42:53,070
Either we're in all the way or we're not in at all. You know what I'm saying? So,

1229
01:43:02,890 --> 01:43:03,670
come on now.

1230
01:43:08,860 --> 01:43:17,160
Is the council, sorry Matt, one, if that does get worked out, is the council in agreement with my

1231
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:17,900
thought process.

1232
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:25,580
If we have local residents willing to put skin in the game, that may be a good way to

1233
01:43:25,580 --> 01:43:31,740
the city to improve our infrastructure at a lower cost.

1234
01:43:32,460 --> 01:43:38,200
To mean that's something I want to make sure we take advantage of, I guess.

1235
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:44,540
I think it's, I think it's good business, I think it creates opportunities to improve contracts

1236
01:43:44,540 --> 01:43:49,080
and improve clarification expectations, I don't think we talked about, but when people

1237
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:57,700
are willing to pay for some of that, whether it's in kind word or cash, I think those

1238
01:43:57,700 --> 01:44:03,960
are good opportunities for the city to improve things and most important right there to improve

1239
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:09,440
relationships with, with residents with taxpayers with at the same time and prove our

1240
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:15,280
infrastructure. In my own the same page with that, there are different views. I think that

1241
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:23,980
would be good. I do think we need to clarify just because something's been done for forever.

1242
01:44:23,980 --> 01:44:31,480
We need to clarify what's wrong. Maybe somebody had a buddy that was in the city and they started

1243
01:44:31,480 --> 01:44:37,000
doing it and all the sudden it just became what the city does. Unless there's something

1244
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:44,780
in writing, in contrast, something that we've agreed to, on record, on file, that's

1245
01:44:44,780 --> 01:44:49,320
I totally, that's what we need to find out, because if there's a city sign sign then I'm

1246
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:54,840
all four we should do, but if there's nothing there and it just kind of happened because nobody

1247
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:59,980
else was doing it, so we started doing it and then I was saying, it's our job, we need to

1248
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,160
And that round and face it now, and that would be a good time after we're going to do that.

1249
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,740
Well, even though there's nothing red shot, I don't know what we would say, so I don't know what I would just say.

1250
01:45:09,820 --> 01:45:17,000
If I'm red shot, judge yours, then somebody else came and said, this is what we did, but we did it. Why we did it? We're sort of seeing the arms to do it.

1251
01:45:17,740 --> 01:45:26,880
But I can take the work because I know it's suitable for people, but I think there needs to find out why what happened, why it happened,

1252
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:36,300
And we are really, really honorable, we will be honorable, what we do, but it doesn't make sense to me that we are the cleaning ditches for the district company.

1253
01:45:36,900 --> 01:45:37,940
It just doesn't make sense.

1254
01:45:37,940 --> 01:45:39,560
I think it needs to be put in writing.

1255
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,920
If they remember what it was, that's fine.

1256
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,120
We're not all going to be here in the future.

1257
01:45:47,460 --> 01:45:48,700
And we need to hit it in the murders.

1258
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,040
We're going to need to know what that agreement was.

1259
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:53,520
It needs to be in writing.

1260
01:45:57,470 --> 01:46:08,170
I just want to say I agree totally agree with your line of thinking, I would tell the council and I'm not suggesting that this is what we're going to do.

1261
01:46:08,330 --> 01:46:15,670
I'm just telling you all where I am now. I would even go as far as, you know, and this is pending a bid.

1262
01:46:15,770 --> 01:46:21,270
But I would even go as far as saying all right, the city will engineer this cross-cutter.

1263
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:30,330
We'll pay for that. We'll shoulder 100% of the design in good-to-date software, in good-says,

1264
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:37,190
and we'll get a design, and we'll get it ready to put out a bid.

1265
01:46:51,460 --> 01:46:52,620
I would need a little

1266
01:46:52,620 --> 01:46:56,840
100,000 where it is, they have to come to the table.

1267
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:05,400
So, was this for the attorney and the Jackson says, if we design it, then we buy the

1268
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:12,080
different tales and then try to some baby and then we're liable because we've paid for the

1269
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:15,680
engineering and we contract to do that and then we become liable.

1270
01:47:16,420 --> 01:47:20,000
Now, there's amenities and all kinds of things to go on with that, but some of the better

1271
01:47:23,740 --> 01:47:35,880
I'm just saying, I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, because I really agree with the mayor that you want to ruin the community together, especially now, we've done all this stuff and we've got all this stuff going on.

1272
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:47,400
Now it's not time to become divided as you can really, but I just understand that if we don't pay for that, then we do that and some of them goes right.

1273
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,340
The shoulders are on us because we did it.

1274
01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:56,320
But Justin isn't that why you pay a license engineer to put an engineer stamp on it.

1275
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,820
So that's exactly what happened.

1276
01:48:00,340 --> 01:48:03,420
Yeah, but that's exactly what happened.

1277
01:48:03,620 --> 01:48:04,640
Everything falls down here.

1278
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,120
They threw us because of predator.

1279
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,180
We see the engineer because they didn't design incorrectly.

1280
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,860
But going back to, I guess, my philosophy of life.

1281
01:48:12,860 --> 01:48:19,400
of somebody get something for nothing, there holds no value to them, whereas if they pull

1282
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,260
a little bit into it, and maybe they're going to put theirs into the construction part,

1283
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:29,620
not the design part, but I always feel like if somebody puts something into something, they

1284
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:35,220
are part of it, they've bought it, and so as they even have the city, they've put it most

1285
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:42,200
of it, there was some that they put it into it, so they have ownership of that design.

1286
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:46,060
We're not saying, we're sorry, the city did this and that will force you to do that.

1287
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:52,380
One of my questions was, does the council view it as an equal partnership?

1288
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:58,440
Or does the city, does the city willing to be the main contributor?

1289
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:02,480
Or should that be equal partners?

1290
01:49:03,540 --> 01:49:04,840
Or projects such as this?

1291
01:49:05,980 --> 01:49:06,980
They've come to us.

1292
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,140
It would have proved city infrastructure.

1293
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:19,960
We've been a social worker, so today is there an argument made for a lesser portion on the residents coming.

1294
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,350
We don't have as big a pocket look, I guess, for lack of a better term.

1295
01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:26,020
Or should it be equal?

1296
01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:29,420
I personally think the solution has a little bit more.

1297
01:49:30,860 --> 01:49:35,580
But I do think that the people should, again, have some mentor.

1298
01:49:35,580 --> 01:49:40,260
But they should get nothing into it and so on the ship.

1299
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,280
So I live up there and that waterway doesn't affect me.

1300
01:49:43,380 --> 01:49:45,680
It doesn't come into my yard, right?

1301
01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:51,300
It goes off to me, it goes off to the stage on the east side of the road, the south side.

1302
01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:52,840
I don't see it.

1303
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,380
So look at the property on the down the street, we're the same way.

1304
01:49:57,460 --> 01:50:00,520
What if this was just an infrastructure failure?

1305
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:11,820
And it just, purely impacted us, like I wrote it as we would be asking those citizens to pitch in on the cost of this project.

1306
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:19,540
So, because it was designed fairly up here and down on 300, we're now asking those who are affected,

1307
01:50:20,140 --> 01:50:22,640
or those who are affected are saying we want this fix.

1308
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:28,820
I don't think that they should have any cost, but I think we should be looking to do this company saying you have a problem here.

1309
01:50:28,820 --> 01:50:31,720
I just like we did out front, that's good.

1310
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,440
We have a little bit of this coming up in our garden lobby because they're dead, she was

1311
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:37,480
washing out the sand from underneath.

1312
01:50:38,180 --> 01:50:42,260
The only reason why we were asked to be in it is because they said, do you want to put

1313
01:50:42,260 --> 01:50:46,080
a bigger type in the ground and you'll rate an extra cost of that type?

1314
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,020
We're not paying for any other part of that project.

1315
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:53,440
This is the dish company's project and we're going to have storm drains and we're going to

1316
01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:54,320
have storm drains.

1317
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,180
So we're doing the storm drains and bigger type, but we'll pay for all of them and we'll

1318
01:50:58,180 --> 01:51:02,320
for that because that's what we want to put in on the project. I don't think we should be asking

1319
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:07,120
the citizens that are affected by this problem for any money. I think we should be looking at

1320
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:11,720
the dish companies saying you've got a problem here and you're impacting somebody's property

1321
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:28,160
and ours we need to fix it and it's that's us and the dish company and we do that but I don't know

1322
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,440
And we're ever saying that, it's that.

1323
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:33,780
Do you think saying it, I think?

1324
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,200
I don't know.

1325
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,420
I believe in 100% on this.

1326
01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:43,260
I mean, this is just things that are going to be popular,

1327
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:46,000
so that it goes for a long period of time.

1328
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:50,920
And people have designed things that are working.

1329
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,540
That's not our problem.

1330
01:51:54,220 --> 01:51:55,120
It's theirs.

1331
01:51:56,660 --> 01:52:05,700
So, our citizens are not going to want to do a part of anything like this, but that's

1332
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:07,460
something we're contractual to do.

1333
01:52:09,260 --> 01:52:12,880
So, I agree with him, let's start telling him that it's the problem that we're going to

1334
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:16,120
get really, really upset about it.

1335
01:52:17,380 --> 01:52:18,460
I guess

1336
01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:29,970
the only thing was that, I guess, to play Dell's dad and kid would be the type

1337
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:51,140
I mean, because this was not our radar right now, this was not something less they brought it to our tent, and they did bring it to our tent, so I think for timeline, say if they want it done now, then I think they would need to pitch in a little bit, unless they're okay with us doing it on our timeline, this was not our radar.

1338
01:52:52,020 --> 01:52:57,800
So, maybe, I don't know if that adds to the conversation or not, so did this, I don't

1339
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:58,500
mean happen.

1340
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,640
Is this the only time or is that a normal place for water?

1341
01:53:01,700 --> 01:53:03,280
No, it's a normal place for it.

1342
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:04,520
It's a normal occurrence.

1343
01:53:04,740 --> 01:53:04,960
I don't.

1344
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:12,860
And the discussion I had with them meeting, what happened recently with the flooding, water

1345
01:53:12,860 --> 01:53:14,300
way, it wasn't going to prevent it.

1346
01:53:14,740 --> 01:53:21,120
They would have flooded unless we had built something extremely robust to deliver

1347
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:26,040
that water and they agreed they would have flooded no matter what but they're they're thinking

1348
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:34,000
of more the every day you know run up the meal type of floods not these hundred year events or

1349
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:40,840
five hundred year events whatever it was but where they approached us they initiated a conversation

1350
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:48,000
I didn't budget for this they would have to be on our timeline of course which was future flooding

1351
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,540
and tell we're ready to do this project, put it on a priority list.

1352
01:53:51,980 --> 01:53:54,400
It's not on a priority list right now, currently.

1353
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,520
And it's probably not on the dish,

1354
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,360
company's priority list, like I agree with that,

1355
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,820
but I know that they've approached us about going underground

1356
01:54:04,580 --> 01:54:06,380
with all the way up, correct?

1357
01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:09,880
Yes, so they do have somewhat of a budget

1358
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:11,480
started for a project.

1359
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:14,720
In that area, yes, on three hundred north,

1360
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,940
that specific intersection, though,

1361
01:54:16,940 --> 01:54:21,060
they're not, they want to be going to be part of the meeting and tell we ask them to be at.

1362
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:25,920
And so, where they've come to ask them, they've been wishy ahead of them where the citizens are.

1363
01:54:26,260 --> 01:54:29,020
The citizens still think it's being Mercedes issue.

1364
01:54:29,700 --> 01:54:30,780
To this moment.

1365
01:54:31,420 --> 01:54:34,020
So, yeah.

1366
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,440
But maybe that changes.

1367
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:38,880
I don't know.

1368
01:54:39,500 --> 01:54:44,620
If they want to done now, we're going to need some financial help unless you just want to pay for us.

1369
01:54:44,620 --> 01:54:50,780
But well, if I'm the ditch company, that's my water in the ditch, and the ditch was not adequate.

1370
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:57,440
And my water's going out of that ditch, I'm going to be one to fix it because if I've thought that whole,

1371
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,020
and I'm the ditch company, I'm potentially reliable, sort of flooding it out.

1372
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:10,060
If my structure is inactive, and that's why they're willing to put a little skin in the game, make sense.

1373
01:55:11,060 --> 01:55:18,020
So again, I think we have to find out if we can, what happened, if we moved to it because of the swimming pool,

1374
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:24,080
we put that all in, we did come to the water and we said, we'll take care of it, we'll do it.

1375
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:29,020
Hey, then we know what it's us, but that's in essence where they're saying.

1376
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,800
But I'd want to know exactly what happened and everything else.

1377
01:55:34,220 --> 01:55:37,560
Then we'll respond slowly, then we take that response really.

1378
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:43,460
It may be helpful for me to get something in writing, just explanation, a history.

1379
01:55:44,660 --> 01:55:48,980
You know, decisions that were made, or at least from the ditch company's perspective,

1380
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:56,180
because it was that was basically what they said, as it was relocated.

1381
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:01,480
Because I actually asked the homeowner, I said, well, you chose to build a bear.

1382
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:06,280
You know, it's here undergrade by far, you're lower than grade.

1383
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:11,880
It was a well, the ditch used to run differently, so it wasn't ever, it wasn't a problem,

1384
01:56:12,140 --> 01:56:18,140
there was a big of a problem until the ditch was relocated, and so for me it would be helpful

1385
01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:26,820
to get some more information in writing, so it's not words, so we're trying to get straight

1386
01:56:26,820 --> 01:56:32,560
in something in writing, but at least a little more accurate, maybe that's something we can

1387
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:33,100
question.

1388
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:42,700
I think so, Boomer, I think we can sit down with the representative of the

1389
01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:50,120
Ditch Company and seek for additional understanding that presented themselves as a

1390
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:55,700
willing participant. You know what I mean? You can construct your conversation.

1391
01:56:55,700 --> 01:56:56,280
So,

1392
01:56:58,660 --> 01:56:58,660
yes,

1393
01:57:02,780 --> 01:57:08,980
that's a good step and I would just reiterate in good faith, I'm from the city's

1394
01:57:08,980 --> 01:57:15,660
perspective, I'm willing to go as far as soliciting bids and getting an engineer, getting

1395
01:57:15,660 --> 01:57:22,960
a ready to put out for bid to find out how much it's going to cost and that's where I'm

1396
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:23,600
personally.

1397
01:57:26,690 --> 01:57:30,410
So I think the whole agreement needs to be re-associated,

1398
01:57:34,630 --> 01:57:35,650
regardless of history.

1399
01:57:44,690 --> 01:57:48,350
Any other discussion points on that?

1400
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,000
Okay, the story which storage containers versus

1401
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:56,060
accessory units.

1402
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:08,420
So, Mayor, I would request that we were not prepared so that if we can

1403
01:58:08,420 --> 01:58:10,180
able that, that would be appreciated.

1404
01:58:11,420 --> 01:58:12,180
That's great.

1405
01:58:12,460 --> 01:58:15,240
Randall, you see that that gets on a future agenda.

1406
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:17,900
Thank you.

1407
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:19,340
All right.

1408
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,780
We have any closed session items to see.

1409
01:58:23,900 --> 01:58:24,320
Yes.

1410
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:33,340
For which litigation or a litigation, I have several properties.

1411
01:58:35,380 --> 01:58:35,600
Okay.

1412
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,100
So we have two closed session items.

1413
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:52,600
So, let's do first litigation and then we'll do a manner, which is that we can have an opportunity to do a whole business follow-ups, report all updates, sorry, I think it's that.

1414
01:58:52,780 --> 01:58:57,080
Let's go to agenda item 17 and then we'll go to the closed session items.

1415
01:59:00,660 --> 01:59:02,560
So, let's start with Miranda.

1416
01:59:03,580 --> 01:59:06,220
On, yeah, I was going to tell you guys,

1417
01:59:06,300 --> 01:59:08,460
Microsoft who came up to Oracle,

1418
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,940
and they were actually able to use a ton of our stuff.

1419
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:13,780
So it was actually a little cool to see.

1420
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,440
It took lockers, ninjas, our states,

1421
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,160
plies, that's about who also has this stuff.

1422
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:22,820
So it was really cool.

1423
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,540
On that note, with the swimming pool,

1424
01:59:27,420 --> 01:59:29,760
this coming week we are prepared to drain it.

1425
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:35,120
Is that another time random to dissipate those chemicals to the left?

1426
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:35,400
Yeah.

1427
01:59:35,540 --> 01:59:36,480
Is that a plan still?

1428
01:59:37,340 --> 01:59:41,080
So this coming week will be draining the whole FYI.

1429
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,340
But if you didn't know, start getting the diving load.

1430
01:59:45,700 --> 01:59:46,240
They're not.

1431
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:50,020
I reached out to them to coordinate a time name about actually being at some.

1432
01:59:50,300 --> 01:59:50,580
Okay.

1433
01:59:55,740 --> 01:59:56,560
Anything else for random?

1434
01:59:56,780 --> 01:59:57,020
Nope.

1435
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:57,360
That's it.

1436
01:59:58,420 --> 01:59:58,640
Okay.

1437
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:09,910
Yes, Randall, when I could put a bit in on that dining board for our problems, trouble.

1438
02:00:11,630 --> 02:00:13,130
So are you building some clean pool?

1439
02:00:14,110 --> 02:00:18,670
We want to need a pool is just something I can maybe add or something.

1440
02:00:18,670 --> 02:00:22,770
That's just a lot of stuff.

1441
02:00:24,850 --> 02:00:26,490
You know, he has to take a journey.

1442
02:00:28,290 --> 02:00:28,970
An ant?

1443
02:00:29,690 --> 02:00:31,430
Yeah, it's a second net.

1444
02:00:31,730 --> 02:00:32,830
It'd be more exciting.

1445
02:00:34,930 --> 02:00:37,350
You can jump from your backyard Randy to Matt.

1446
02:00:37,650 --> 02:00:38,930
Matt will have the net.

1447
02:00:39,110 --> 02:00:39,550
You know that.

1448
02:00:39,710 --> 02:00:42,450
Because there's like a fight for the difference in that.

1449
02:00:43,050 --> 02:00:43,210
Yeah.

1450
02:00:43,210 --> 02:00:43,370
Hi.

1451
02:00:43,610 --> 02:00:44,610
So as he comes over.

1452
02:00:45,950 --> 02:00:51,990
Well, it was actually set as a bonus, guys, as a bonus, and it's true.

1453
02:00:54,650 --> 02:00:56,110
It's good to read rainy.

1454
02:00:58,430 --> 02:01:01,720
All right, 100.

1455
02:01:02,420 --> 02:01:03,080
I had nothing.

1456
02:01:05,420 --> 02:01:05,680
All right.

1457
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:06,100
Lanes.

1458
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,100
We may yesterday is the library board.

1459
02:01:09,860 --> 02:01:12,620
A lot of good things that a library has been really busy.

1460
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:14,900
This is according to them.

1461
02:01:14,900 --> 02:01:16,680
They think this might be their busiest year.

1462
02:01:16,900 --> 02:01:19,680
They've had a lot of people using the library.

1463
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:24,860
right now, and they're excited. These are going well there. So that's all I have.

1464
02:01:27,910 --> 02:01:27,950
Great

1465
02:01:27,950 --> 02:01:29,390
speed up.

1466
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,120
No, I'm good. Randy.

1467
02:01:43,590 --> 02:01:49,250
I'm happy to report that our staff from Play Handbook

1468
02:01:49,870 --> 02:02:01,350
is 99% done. We've got a couple of more edits to make as grammatical edits mostly in a couple

1469
02:02:01,350 --> 02:02:10,710
read throughs, but one of our goals in our office was by August 13, which is my one year mark

1470
02:02:10,710 --> 02:02:16,850
to have that done and so we're happy to report. There's been a lot of work on Taylor's side

1471
02:02:16,850 --> 02:02:22,710
of it and on the council's side of it, employee's side of it, it's been a team effort for

1472
02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:30,310
sure to get that dialed in and excited to present that council in a coming meeting soon.

1473
02:02:32,570 --> 02:02:32,910
That's

1474
02:02:32,910 --> 02:02:35,510
small accomplishment, great job guys.

1475
02:02:42,700 --> 02:02:49,500
So I have met Justin, you got any updates, only for

1476
02:02:49,500 --> 02:02:57,960
close session. Taylor, you got anything? I do have one because I can now say one of the last

1477
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:03,360
students that stood through there was the city was dismissed from the classroom.

1478
02:03:06,700 --> 02:03:09,820
I would also

1479
02:03:09,820 --> 02:03:13,420
I like to officially declare that you lost the over under again.

1480
02:03:13,820 --> 02:03:14,940
Right now.

1481
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:16,560
I'm so close.

1482
02:03:17,380 --> 02:03:18,920
I don't think we would be this close.

1483
02:03:22,060 --> 02:03:22,560
It's ridiculous.

1484
02:03:25,330 --> 02:03:26,630
Are you going to drink tonight?

1485
02:03:27,830 --> 02:03:29,870
Don't take me to Vegas tomorrow.

1486
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:33,130
Taylor, you got anything?

1487
02:03:37,300 --> 02:03:38,760
I don't want to be.

1488
02:03:39,300 --> 02:03:40,160
I'm scared, please.

1489
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:45,700
Is Daddy there?

1490
02:03:45,940 --> 02:03:46,440
I don't know.

1491
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:53,300
She is not. She is office for all right, that should do it for all updates and all business

1492
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:59,140
Are we ready to go to closed session Kevin. Thank you all be in touch

1493
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:02,880
Thanks, you guys have a good night. Thanks.

1494
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:09,180
All right, all entertainment motion dinner closed session for potential pending litigation

1495
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:17,220
Motion by Skiina second by Lance by roll calls on your

1496
02:04:23,660 --> 02:04:33,780
Okay, we'll come out of those sessions for potential spending mitigation is there a motion and a close session for the purposes of change or lease of poverty.

1497
02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:35,160
Motion.

1498
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:36,920
Second.

1499
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:48,340
We can make the motion wave. Motion by gave, second by 100, I think copy by roll call.

1500
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:53,300
Hunter, yes. Let's talk to you. I'll read it all right, yes.

1501
02:04:55,510 --> 02:05:00,050
All right, guys, anybody will come out to a session for purchase or sell property.

1502
02:05:01,930 --> 02:05:03,230
Anybody got anything else?

1503
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:09,760
They're most into adjourned.

1504
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:10,420
motion.

1505
02:05:11,980 --> 02:05:12,240
Second.

1506
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:14,140
Second.

1507
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:16,400
Any opposed?

1508
02:05:18,060 --> 02:05:19,360
All right, guys, thank you.