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Councillor Hussain, city council, city recorder, please call the roll. Councillor Dugger. I am here. Councillor Hartmeyer Craig. Here. Councillor Hassan. Councillor Hassan had communicated she would be a little bit late. Councillor Kimmy. Here. Councillor Teeter. Here. And Councillor Tivnon and Mayor Bader absent. All right. Tonight, thank you. We will begin tonight's agenda with visitor comments. Then we will move on to the consent agenda.

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One presentation, a public hearing, and council new business.

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City requires pre-registration for online and in person visitor comments at council meetings.

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Registration closed at 12 noon today.

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All the registration was conducted through the City Recorder's office via email or phone.

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In preparation for this meeting, as far as I know, there's no one registered to comment at tonight's meeting and

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the city has not received any written comments, so we will move on to the consent agenda.

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Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda?

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A council person actually have an amendment or just a note on the minutes from April 2nd,

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2024, before I make the motion, wait, yeah, that was the meeting, okay.

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So in the meeting that day, there's a note from one of the public commenters and it says

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is Melody or Melanie, but the person's name is Sabdi from Atrek, so I just thought we

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should correct the minutes to note that Sabdi is the Atrek number who asked for a moment

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of peace.

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I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

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It's more slowly, please.

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In the minutes on page 1 at the bottom, there is three virtual commenters, the first two

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being full of hate.

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The third one says Melanie or Melody Atrek member asked for a moment of peace.

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The person that called in was Sabdi from the eight-track.

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I just thought we should correct to note that Sabdi is the person that called.

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Was there a last name?

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I don't know her last name.

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I'd have to look it up for you.

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Okay, so just a reminder that when people were joining virtually and not registering,

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we put whatever they put in the, like, to join Zoom.

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It's a Sabdi.

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Okay.

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I think this is a transcription.

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It makes somebody heard it.

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Her name is Sabdi.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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That was in the chat that day.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Make a motion.

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Yeah.

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I'll move to approve the consent agenda with the minor note fixed in April 2nd minutes.

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Second.

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This has been moved by Councillor Hartmire Prigg and seconded by Councillor Teeter.

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Is there any discussion?

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So there's no further discussion.

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City recorded, please take the vote by roll call.

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Councillor Dugger.

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Yes.

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Councillor Hartmire Prigg.

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Yes. Councillor Kimmy. Yes. Councillor Teter. Yes.

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And that's for zero. Thank you. The next item on the agenda

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is the presentation. The presentation is regarding the community development block grant

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consolidated plan process update and it will give, given by Kathy, as a reminder, the purpose

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of this presentation is to provide information to the council. While councilors may

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asked clarifying questions about the presentation itself. It is now the time to engage in back-and-forth policy development dialogue.

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Presenters, you may begin when you're ready.

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Council President, I do have a City Manager's report if I can squeeze that into the agenda before we get into the presentation.

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Is that all right?

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It's just missing from our script.

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Okay, yeah, sorry about that.

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Make sure we include it next time.

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I've got a few items, I just wanted to share given the opportunity in front of the council

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for the community's awareness, the first one is a sustainability item, the Sexton Mountain

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Hydra Power pump station that we were able to complete for public works has been working

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on that for quite a while, trying to get essentially using our water source to create power and retrofitting

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it with some equipment that probably I think safe to say that the city is maybe the first

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in generating power from its own water system.

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And so it's an exciting project for nerds like Tim, who I appreciate leading that project

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from a public work standpoint, but it's also a really exciting project for the city both

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from a sustainability and a fiscal sustainability standpoint that we're able to generate power

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from our water source and also then save money in the offing and doing all of the...

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The next item is also a sustainability one. The heat pump and the heat pump incentive program, I guess folks did want to hear me. This is one offering incentives for folks single family homeowner occupied homes incentives up to $11,000, essentially retrofitting your, or maybe creating a heat pump.

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where you might not have had or would have an alternative source for heating and cooling.

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It's a limited incentive program driven by dollars from the Oregon Department of Energy's community heat pump development deployment program.

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Small number of the grants are actually available so it would encourage folks to reach out.

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We've got more information on the city's website at Beaverton Oregon dot gov slash sustainability

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Again limited funding limited time

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Next we've got a couple of exciting opportunities for

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Community engagement about important items either to the city and the overall community itself or to individuals

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One transportation vision visioning workshops that are going to occur at the library

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They are both going to occur in English and Spanish on the 19th of Saturday, the 19th of October.

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And more information at beavertonorgan.gov slash gobeaverton.

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The transportation system plan is a 20-year plan for transportation policy and funding investments in the community.

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Feedback from folks who attend and participate in the various engagement opportunities on the TSP as we call it.

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Those are really impactful pieces of feedback that help staff develop the plan and so really have a long-term impact on the community.

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Those folks who do come out on Saturday, they're going to be interactive sessions and they'll be looking to also have those with language interpretation for both English and Spanish at both sessions.

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and so I want to make sure that, you know, you can't make one and you're concerned about the language being the primary language.

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Please come anyway. We'll make sure that you understand what's happening and can participate.

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The next one, like I said, news for individuals maybe.

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At the library are also having an end-of-life resource there.

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That's the 23rd Wednesday in October, 11 to 2.

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and it's an important milestone obviously in all of our lives trying to provide

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information though for folks to plan for for death for hospice and health care

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towards the end of life financial arrangements and other legal considerations

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really just trying to provide as much information to folks as possible and more

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information is on the library's website so beavertonlibrary.org.

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And then lastly, a couple of shout outs. One wanted to recognize public works again.

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The current issue of city trees, which I'm sure you're all subscribed to. You might have noticed

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recognition for the city's forestry program, urban forestry and community. Forestry Society

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has recognized the program and tried to, what we've tried to do in this program throughout

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the city and throughout its ten years, looking at tree maintenance, canopy preservation,

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neighborhood planting events, a street of trees tour for folks interested in planting,

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and information and engagement with local arbor items.

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We're proud of the program, it's obviously a unique one and the help for residents who

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are interested in planting and getting more information and concerned about the health

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of their trees.

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Lastly, some recognition for artist Kanani Miyamoto, whose art is featured actually behind

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me on the hallway of the Beaverton Building and also at the Patricia Research Center for

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the performing arts. The artist is recognized in 1859, Oregon's magazine, and the

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Across Oceans, which is the art installation on our two buildings, is a unique

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installation that actually is imagery with paper and window wrapping. It's beautiful.

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I encourage folks to come to our buildings and check it out if they have not yet, and just wanted to say again, congratulations to Kanani for the recognition in the magazine and proud to have her art in our buildings. I think that is it's unless you all have any questions and happy to turn it over to the presentation.

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Thank you.

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I'll cancel the program.

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Just as I was reviewing my packet on Sunday, the heat pump incentive program, it looks

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like the applications on the website are rolling so all the way through February, I believe

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is the last gate that opens.

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Can you just keep us updated on the availability of money because one of our jobs I think is

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to make sure that as we are meeting with community groups, we're letting them know that this

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program and I don't want to direct them to the program if the money is run out is it goes

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through the gate so if you guys just just kind of let us know where we are periodically check in.

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How did you do that? Yeah I think what the amount of funding we had was in the 30s of homes

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we thought we'd be able to get through the program so it will definitely run out we hope and that'll

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be a good thing but we'll definitely keep you abreast of that. Is that such a cool program? Yeah,

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so we hope we'll get more.

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Thank you so much. Let's get back to the agenda. Presentation.

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Please do come up.

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Good evening, councillors. My name is Kathy Anderson Peoples and I work in

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the Community Development Department and I'm sure you know Tyler. He's here to help me out tonight

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And we'll be presenting a PowerPoint from Heidi Aguilar with root policy.

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And this PowerPoint is to update you all on where we are with the Consolidated Plan.

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It's a five-year plan process, and she's here to give you an update on all of the information

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and data we've collected.

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Before she's on, I would like just to take a few minutes to go over the CDBG

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process with you all. Since we're here to discuss the consolidated plan, I'll try to make it quick.

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Since 1994, the city has received an annual CDBG entitlement award from the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

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So CDBG is community development block map and we refer to the Housing and Urban Development as HUD.

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So there are as a this year, I'm sorry, the city's entitlement award is $638,385.

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There are four major components as a condition of the grant that HUD requires and they must

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be completed at various times throughout the year.

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All four of these must meet the requirements set out in the five year consolidated plan, which is what we're updating you on this evening.

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The first component is the notice of funding availability that the city staff advertises the funding availability in local publications and casts a broad net to the nonprofit community seeking applications after that process is complete.

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The state staff takes the funding recommendations to City Council for their approval.

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The second component is subrecipient awards.

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After we do the notice of funding availability and the decisions are made and Council has

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we have the Council's approval, we contract with non-profit organizations to complete the

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agreed upon work.

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The third component is the annual action plan.

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And this is where we submit to HUD the plan for allocating grant funds and what our projections are to meet those requirements that are set up in the five year consolidated plan.

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The fourth and final component is what's called the Consolidated Annual Performance Evaluation Report.

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That's also referred to as the Caper.

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That is where we report the actual numbers we served in that year and how the city performed

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measured against one, the annual action plan we talked about and two, the five-year

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consolidated plan.

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So just just a brief overview on CDBG and now I'd like to turn the floor over to Heidi for

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a presentation on the update.

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Thank you so much and good evening everybody. I'm going to share my screen.

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Let me see if this is going to work.

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Sorry about that. I just need to make sure that

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I can share it. And I think that I'm

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having a little bit of trouble sharing. I'm so sorry. I think you may have a backup there. Yeah, Heidi, I can run it for you. Okay. Thank you. Sorry about that. For some reason my computer's not cooperating tonight.

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Great. Thank you so much. Go ahead. Go to slideshow. Perfect.

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and go ahead and advance.

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I'm going to talk, I'll do a brief introduction about myself,

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and our firm, mostly I'm going to share findings

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from the community engagement that we have undertaken

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to support the plan.

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Also talk about the needs and market analysis

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that was conducted partially in a concert

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with your housing needs assessment,

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and then I want to just provide some of the workshopping

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that we've found around goals and priorities

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and invite some comments on that.

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So first of all, with community engagement,

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go ahead and go forward.

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So this plan was done in cooperation with the City of Hillsboro, as well as Washington

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County.

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And Washington County has really taken a lead on what HUD calls stakeholder consultation.

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And that's where the county staff to talk to a lot of people who provide services and

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housing throughout the county, including in Beaverton, this table gives you an idea of the

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organizations that were consulted with one-on-one interviews, virtual interviews,

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in-person interviews throughout the summer. Go ahead and go forward. We also

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feel that a community survey, Beaver 10 Hillsboro in the county marketed that

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survey. That survey was designed by the county and we did the analysis and it got

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really good response. So we had more than 400 Beaver 10 residents complete the

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survey. You have to think about this survey as being voluntary. It's trying to capture

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low-to-moderate income people, people who've had housing challenges, but it's also an

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opportunity for all types of residents to express their opinions and their perspectives on

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housing needs. We've got really good representation and a good balance of demographics, most of

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the respondents own their homes, so a little higher than the overall proportion of homeownership

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in the city of Beberton, most were non-Hispanic white, and about half had household incomes of

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more than 100,000 a year.

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Thirty-seven percent had children living in their home, and a lot of respondents represented

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relatively small household sizes, and I think you'll see that representation of smaller, older

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households in Beberton's responses in particular, and about half lived in a household with two to

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three members. We had about 18% four members, 12% five plus members. So we did get a good

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representation of large households as well.

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I'm going to walk through some comparative

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graphics. So this shows the findings of some questions that I thought were really nicely

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representative of priority needs, comparing Beaverton, which is in the middle there in the green

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with Washington County in the city of Hillsboro. So we asked in the survey residents to

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to offer their response to what housing needs they felt were highest need in Washington County

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in the city of Beaverton and in Hillsboro. And so this graphic shows you in descending order

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those that got the highest ranking if you will. And you'll see in Beaverton the highest ranking

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was affordable rental housing for older adults and that was slightly higher than the county overall.

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but also construction of affordable rental housing was a top-need rental

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assistance also jumped out as a top-need where we saw a little bit of

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variation was in if you kind of go by two-thirds of the way down energy

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efficiency improvements in home was a bit higher in Beaverton and we saw in the

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comparable jurisdictions.

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I'm going to go forward. This shows, excuse me,

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top public facility needs and I'm going to use some of the HUD terms here.

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facility means like a community center, a health center, and those are eligible activities

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that you can fund with CDBG. You see for Bill Beaverton, the one thing that really jumped

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out at me was that 43% of people, so there was a high need for libraries, and that's much

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higher than the 32% that you see in the city of Hillsboro.

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And then Washington County. And the homeless shelter was also higher than what we saw in the county and mental health center. The top need pretty much across jurisdictions. Also was one of the top needs that folks expressed. Go ahead and go forward.

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And we also ask about top public service needs. And it had speak, public services. You think you should think of those as services that are provided by nonprofits. We usually refer to those as supportive services. Pretty consistent responses here.

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among the jurisdictions with mental health services being the top, express needs, followed by substance abuse services, rental housing subsidies, not a ton of variation among the jurisdictions.

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A little more, you'll see in Hillsborough on housing information and referral services, but the City of Beaverton's responses looked pretty close to the counties.

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In terms of infrastructure needs, so you can also use CDBG to help support and leverage

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construction or improvement of public infrastructure in Beaverton sidewalks, showed up a bit

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higher than road improvements. That was also true of Hillsboro. You also see street lighting is

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being important as well as I mentioned road improvements and then broadband infrastructure.

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So the other thing that we look at and this represents the county overall is disproportionate needs.

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So we want to understand do certain population groups experience housing challenges differently,

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or do they have a little more trouble accessing economic opportunity and need different community

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and development incentives or investments? So you want to make sure that the programs that you

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are providing are helping people in a way that is equitable, and this data helps you look at that.

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So these are another set of questions where we asked about what people worry about in terms of their

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housing challenges. And then this is dissected by Hispanic Latino respondents, other people

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of color respondents as well as non-Hispanic white. And what you see here is when we ask

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I worry about retaliation, if I report harassment, you'll see that the Hispanic Latino population

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and other people of color are slightly higher than non-Hispanic white. But those responses

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were high across the board. So generally in conditions like this with the housing market

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that is really tight. We see that people are really reluctant to report any condition issues

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to their landlord or any feelings that they have experienced from their neighbors. If they feel

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like they're not feeling comfortable within their development, they're reluctant to report that

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because they're afraid that they'll get retaliated against or in some cases evicted.

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And the other one that you see here is I have a disability and cannot get around the neighborhood

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which was higher for people of color, 32% relative to Hispanic or Latino, but also really

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high for the non-Hispanic white population, and that's probably going to represent more

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of your senior population that tends to be more individuals who identify as non-Hispanic

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white.

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Go ahead and go forward.

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You can page forward, it looks like it might be stuck.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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So I'm going to shift and talk a bit about the housing needs assessment and needs analysis

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that we did.

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HUD has a template that is provided to us that we complete and we've got drafts of that

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that are part of the consolidated plan, but instead of reinventing the wheel for Beaver

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10 because you had already done your housing needs assessment, we used the graphics for

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that section that drawing from the housing needs assessment.

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This should be familiar to you.

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this first one shows the rental gaps and a rental gap is comparing the distribution of

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renter households and you see that in sort of the darker orange or the rust color with

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the units that are affordable at their income level. What you see here is when that rust

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color bar is higher than the yellowish bar, that means that there's a gap. So there's

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a shortage of units to serve households, in this case renter households, at that income

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level. And you see that that exists up until people are earning 35,000 to 50,000 dollars

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and more, and that's where supply becomes more available.

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So what this tells us is that people who are earning

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or have incomes of less than 35,000,

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they can't find units that are affordable to them,

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and they're cost burdened. They have to rent up,

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so they have to pay more for housing than they can afford

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or they're living over crowded conditions

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or they're living with friends or family

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and they're not on the lease and it may be a precarious situation.

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Then higher income households who have a lot of housing available to them,

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they can rent down and they sometimes crowd out those units for low-income households

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because they're just more attractive tenants for a lot of landlords.

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And this is a similar comparison for owner households. So this is representing owners who are housed, but may want to change. They may want to downsize for those low-income owners, where there's more of those than units valued at the income level. They may be having trouble paying taxes, property taxes, may having trouble maintaining their homes. So what we see here is for low-income homeowners,

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even though they're in their homes, they probably would really have a lot of trouble changing,

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downsizing, upsizing if they needed to to help live and support a family member. So the owner

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distribution is a little in better balance because owners are higher income than renters, but you still

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see some gaps.

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You should have to talk a little bit about homeownership rates and differences and

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homeownership rates. So Beaverton has a lower homeownership rate of about 51% relative to the county

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over all. It's the same as Hillsboro, but lower than Tigard. And you're unique in that

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you haven't seen yours really change much. Hillsboro, it went down by 4 percentage points

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over the last five years, but you pretty much stayed the same in terms of homeownership.

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We also look at homeownership rates or homeownership gaps rather by race and ethnicity. We're

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trying to understand, like I said earlier, what the disproportionate housing needs section

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or people experiencing the housing market differently.

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You'll see in Beaverton, that Asian

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and non-Hispanic white households,

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they have a little bit higher

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homeownership rates than the city overall at 55%.

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Where we see the biggest gaps are for Hispanic Latino households,

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homeownership rate in Beaverton is only 25%.

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Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander households,

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as well as your Black African-American households.

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American Indian Alaska Native households, slightly higher homeownership rates as well as other or two or more races.

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So when you're thinking about programs like down payment assistance, if you're providing affordable homeownership programs,

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to deliver those programs equitably, you want to really look at these subgroups,

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these racial and ethnic groups that have really low homeownership rates and ask yourself,

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how could we do better in helping them achieve homeownership?

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And last but not least on the data side, we do an exercise where we project future needs,

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and this is for the county overall, part of the demands on the consolidated plan for the county

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are more extensive than for Beaverton or Hillsboro. Their plans are sort of a subset of the county,

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but this gives you a sense of what those needs are. And basically what we do is we take

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the current subgroup population groups, we look at how the county overall has grown and

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then we project forward and we need to do a five-year projection for HUD for the Consolidated

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Plan.

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So where you see growth is in all low income households, we anticipate that you could see

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growth of about 4,200 and if you look at that growth by sort of that income segment, see

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where that growth is really going to happen is between 50% and 80%, extremely low-income households.

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So there's like poverty level households as well as very low-income households.

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So when you're thinking about designing programs, there's not really one low-income category

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that's going to grow faster than another. They're pretty much growing at a similar rate,

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although you'll see a slightly higher growth within that low-income household bucket.

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I'm going to shift and talk about goals and priorities.

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For the last couple of months working with Beaverton, City of Beaverton, Washington County

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and Hillsboro, we've put all of this information together.

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We presented to staff a couple of times some guidance and priorities.

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This is information that city staff will use annually when they're setting up their allocation

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plan and their proposed projects to make sure they're sort of checking in with priority

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needs and checking in with what we saw with the needs. So guidance would be prioritizing the

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urgency of the need, really looking at where there are acute needs, people are experiencing homelessness

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at risk, at homelessness, at risk of eviction. Looking at, and I talked about this quite a bit now,

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the ability to address equity gaps and reverse the effects of historical discrimination. So just

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paying attention to the idea that disproportionate needs exist and you may need to calibrate programs,

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a little bit differently to be able to address those needs.

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And then the ability to leverage resources

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and utilize other resources to address needs,

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particularly taken into account your existing service providers and partners.

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Prior goals for the city of Beaver 10, so this is five years ago, were a little broader than what we've got proposed for this round of consolidated planning. So they tended to be higher level and have a little more sort of a categorical representation. Go ahead and go forward.

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So you'll see these really represent those HUD categories that I talked about when I was talking about the survey.

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So the goals of the objectives were proposing for 2025 through 2029.

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And these comport with what the county and the city of Hillsboro are proposing to for

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their goals.

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These are a little more strategy-based.

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So goal one is increasing housing stability of low income renter households and special

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populations.

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And that could include a number of activities, rental assistance, new construction of affordable

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rental housing, rehabilitation, as well as housing-related public services, like homeless prevention,

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for example.

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A goal to improve public facilities and public infrastructure that benefits special needs

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populations.

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And then we have that equity piece built in to historically underserved people in neighborhoods.

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Goal 3 rather facilitate affordable homeownership and preserve and stabilize existing homes occupied

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by low to moderate income owners, down payment assistance, new construction as well as rehabilitation.

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And then goal 4 funding supportive services for low to moderate income and special needs

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populations.

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And so with that I'm certainly, this slide actually prompts some ideas for discussion,

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but open to any discussion or questions about anything that I presented as well as would love to

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get feedback on the proposed five-year goals and priorities for this plan. Some of the ways you

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could think about this is if you were really thinking about, I'd like to advocate for this type of

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activity, I'm hearing my constituents really, you know, are having a challenge in this

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way. Would the goals and would the activities and priorities really support that challenge?

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And then last but not least, as Kathy talked about, there's a paper document that reports

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back those outcomes. So another way to think about this is what outcomes would you really

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want to see from those investments?

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With that, I'm happy to take any kind of questions?

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Yeah, we have a point of clarification very well.

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This was designated as a presentation for us and so we're trying to respect the boundaries

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that we're supposed to resect, which means we're not supposed to work session this.

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So I'm just curious, you know, what would be helpful for us to kind of minimize the back

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of force since it's not a work session, any guidance,

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no guidance, we'll try to time box

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it? It would be most helpful for takeaways, Kathy, or Tyler? What do you need if any feedback

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and when do you need it? So the process goes, I think we're supposed to, I don't think I know,

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but we are supposed to have the consolidated plan into HUD by May 15th, 2025. So we have a bit of time

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more we're preparing ahead of time. So we've done all of this work over about a year's time.

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We will bring the consolidated plan back to council again for comments and

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you know whatever issues or outreach you might have. We have a meeting it's called an open

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house and I should have mentioned that. Tomorrow at the Tigard Public Library and that's

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at five o'clock, and we have another meeting.

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It's a, we call them open houses,

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and the community is invited, and we've published it

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like on our Facebook page, and Instagram, and Twitter, X,

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and it's been published in various media outlets.

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So that is also, that's Thursday, and that will be held

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at the Cornelius, in Cornelius, at Central Couture del, and that's also at 5 o'clock, so we're

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there to get comments. And, you know, if Council would like, we can also bring this back

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again, and, you know, for discussion. This is just basically a presentation to let, you know,

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where we are and what data we've collected and what it's looking like so far. Thank you.

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Councillor Hussain.

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I will be thoughtful of time.

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I just, this was very, very informational to the-

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I want to have dialogue, but I'll keep it short. I'm just curious. I'm assuming it's because of HUD that we just focus on housing, right? We don't look at like other factors like child care or health care. Does that sound right? We do. Okay. There's, there's lots of things. We set out a questionnaire six months ago, maybe, and we asked the community what they thought was important.

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But yeah, childcare is definitely something that could be on the list.

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Okay. I only bring that up because obviously part of being housed is having access to healthcare,

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having access to childcare, so looking at it like more holistically, which I know can be tricky.

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I just, the other is like a general question. On the slide around the ethnicity, I noticed that

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we were using kind of like the federal government designated ethnicities. Has there ever been an

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interest or desire to go deeper. So like Asian is very broad. Has that ever been a topic?

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It's these are you know HUD slots that yeah you know that it's yeah it's kind of interesting they

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let you report lots of different types of race and ethnicities when you collect the data but when

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you report back out to HUD there's only like very few like categories that you can report into and

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And I make the comment every year when I report my documents that, well, if you're going

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to collect the data, can we please use those dedicated, whatever line items, like how they

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identify in the actual reports?

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So this is the federal government.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Well, that's what we deserve.

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Just want to put on everyone's radar.

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Asian is very diverse, black is very diverse. I understand we're working

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at the federal government, that's fine. I'll just, you know, I know that there's

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been, we've talked about like an access center, which is a little bit maybe

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different around this, but we've also talked about like a multicultural center,

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which would serve communities of color. So I just wonder like where those things

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sort of support this kind of work. I think the retaliation comment to me was

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really interesting because I know as a woman of color and working with

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There is fear of retaliation for speaking up, so like is there a way to build services or access to services that is safe that allows people to show up and walk in and feel like they can say what they need?

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So that was just something that kind of popped in my head.

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I'm watching the time, so I'm going to let other folks speak, but this was a really informative presentation.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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We also have coming up the fair housing contract.

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So that's something that would address the needs for retaliation.

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Yeah.

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All right, Councillor Hart, my break.

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Thank you.

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Clarifying question, kind of a follow-up to Councillor Hessons.

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So in the data that we see through, from the survey results, where people were asked to

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rent.

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Their needs, it was high need.

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I think Heidi that you said that all of those categories are CDBG eligible categories?

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Did I hear that correctly?

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Most are, but the way that the survey was designed is it wasn't.

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I was trying to gather data from the residence perspective, so it's more little.

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It's crafted so that a resident would recognize a need as opposed to sort of those HUD-designated

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categories.

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00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:44,700
So, yes, for the most part, but the way that the CDBG regulations work, in some cases you

430
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:50,240
are limited in the set-of-side, so how much CDBG you can use to fund some of those activities.

431
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,240
So it would be difficult, like for example, even though we go through this exercise, we couldn't

432
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,240
take that distribution of priorities,

433
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,400
representing that high needs graph.

434
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Graph, if you wanted to, you couldn't be able to do this

435
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600
and make the allocation match that

436
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,220
because you're sort of,

437
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,260
you're beholden to the HUD regulations too.

438
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,640
Okay, thank you.

439
00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:12,660
If you're interested,

440
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,520
it's 15% of the entitlement amount

441
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,000
can be allocated for public services

442
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,380
and then 20% of the entitlement amount

443
00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:23,540
can be allocated toward administration costs.

444
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:29,360
Thank you.

445
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:35,340
I've got one question about the differences in goals between previous years and what

446
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:36,900
we're looking forward to in the next five years.

447
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Looks like the biggest differences are previous years included some funding or some goals

448
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,620
around workforce development and micro enterprise economic development.

449
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,380
Do we see changes in what we might be funding over the next five years based off of the new

450
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:57,140
goals that we have or do is everything kind of fit within these new buckets.

451
00:39:57,340 --> 00:39:59,900
We've got like, what do we see for the future of what we might be fun?

452
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:29,980
I think that we need to wait until the data is gathered. Five years ago, and I was actually, this is the last time I was in front of council was five years ago, it was something that came up on the survey results of what was needed. And if that comes up again, then yeah, we'll look at it at that point. It's also, if you serve micro enterprise, that amount of funding does not need to

453
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:31,920
that come out of your public services cap,

454
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
which is that really skinny 15%.

455
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,740
If you fund workforce development,

456
00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:39,160
workforce training and hiring,

457
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:43,840
it comes out of your very precious 15%.

458
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400
So that's part of the consideration.

459
00:40:48,340 --> 00:40:48,940
Okay, thank you.

460
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:49,900
I look forward to seeing more.

461
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:51,300
Also the other.

462
00:40:53,450 --> 00:40:54,190
Yeah, thank you.

463
00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:55,350
Question for you.

464
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:57,870
And then I'm gonna give you feedback on the goals.

465
00:40:58,610 --> 00:41:04,330
How do these goals connect with, since this is federal HUD money with like our SHS funding

466
00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:09,450
which is, there's a lot of intersection there, I even think about like our library funding,

467
00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:09,650
right?

468
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:14,550
Library funding is not just books anymore, it's, it's supportive housing services, connection

469
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:19,570
to services like how, how is this different, are we connecting with those programs like,

470
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:22,410
does that question make sense?

471
00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:23,430
Like, like-

472
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:26,830
Are there goals that are different than those goals?

473
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:32,770
So like are there complimentary like do we do we partner with those agencies like with the library and?

474
00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:38,770
Well, I'm thinking as far as giving you feedback on these goals like did these kind of level up like are we all doing the same work?

475
00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:44,190
Because that would be really important to me that we're not doing one program way over here that's not connected with our federal.

476
00:41:44,510 --> 00:41:51,430
Like all levels of government should be working together to get, you know, the same goals accomplished so do these kind of.

477
00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:59,190
work in concert with the metro, SHS, county, you know, goals and things like that, or are these totally separate?

478
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:03,650
What do you have to say about that, Heidi? I'd say they're totally separate.

479
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:15,030
Yeah, I mean, I understand. I think the desire to be able to have like truly like a consolidated plan where you've got, you know, these services should work together, right?

480
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:21,990
they should sync up. That would be ideal. But realistically, when these are programs that have

481
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:28,170
any federal money in them, they require different reports, different ways of like CSBG, for example,

482
00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:38,370
is a totally different process. And so I think you could certainly express that to HUD. The magic is

483
00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:44,810
really trying to strike that balance between what makes sense for goals, like real goals,

484
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:51,110
sort of goals with some strategy, and then we're reporting to HUD so that they can see

485
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:52,710
that those boxes are all checked.

486
00:42:54,310 --> 00:43:00,250
And we don't want to put Cathy in too much of a narrow box in that you can only fund certain

487
00:43:00,250 --> 00:43:00,710
activities.

488
00:43:00,710 --> 00:43:06,030
We want to allow some flexibility, but we also need to signal to HUD that the activities

489
00:43:06,030 --> 00:43:13,870
that these block grants are really meant to fund the spirit of the block grants are represented there so that's kind of what that's the balance we're trying to strike.

490
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:29,650
I think you could say yes the way that the goals are designed there is an opportunity to work with your partner agencies and organizations to be able to leverage dollars and fit everything into those goals.

491
00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:33,870
but if you see a place where there's a gap, like we'd really like to take on this activity,

492
00:43:34,090 --> 00:43:38,350
and honestly how this fits in the goal, then we would need to fix that before it's submitted to HUD.

493
00:43:38,670 --> 00:43:43,170
And that's kind of what I expected. It's really hard not to support these goals,

494
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:47,670
like they're increased housing stability, who would not support that. The only thing I would encourage

495
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:56,270
you is to make them a little more specific, right? Like it's, if we do one thing in the community,

496
00:43:56,270 --> 00:44:01,610
that increases housing stability, that technically meets that goal, but that's not moving the needle.

497
00:44:01,850 --> 00:44:08,370
And so, I'm okay with failing goals, let's do our moonshot here, and I'm just making this up.

498
00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:13,670
But let's increase housing stability 10% or something like that, very specific and

499
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:19,590
measurable over the next five years, and all of these things improve public facilities by

500
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:21,930
by X amount of dollars or X amount,

501
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:24,490
just those kind of things really appeal to me

502
00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:25,290
from a metrics.

503
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:27,090
To a measurement.

504
00:44:27,610 --> 00:44:29,470
Yeah, like, because we just say

505
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,490
increase public facilities or increase.

506
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:34,930
Like, I think everybody in this, in Beaverton,

507
00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:37,570
it's one of the few things we probably all 100% agree on.

508
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:39,350
But like, I want to kind of push us,

509
00:44:39,450 --> 00:44:41,470
even if we don't hit them to kind of,

510
00:44:41,530 --> 00:44:43,690
to push really hard and shoot for the stars on those.

511
00:44:43,970 --> 00:44:45,230
And the way you do that is like,

512
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:47,930
having really big measurable goals

513
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:49,530
that we can see if we're on track for.

514
00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:51,050
So I think they're great goals.

515
00:44:51,530 --> 00:44:52,950
I would just add that I would hope

516
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:56,030
that we would put some sort of measure in there metric.

517
00:44:56,670 --> 00:44:56,990
Okay.

518
00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:57,690
Thank you.

519
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:58,050
Thank you.

520
00:44:59,050 --> 00:44:59,770
Thank you all.

521
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980
I just have a quick question. How was the survey conducted? I'm sorry. How was the survey conducted? What was the survey conducted? So the initial survey went out in a lot of different ways. So we sent them out via emails. We sent them out to partner agencies who then like would pass those on to their clients or their

522
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:38,820
constituents, and we collected what and then they, you could send them back, you know, by mail,

523
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:47,840
by email, there was a QR code, we got fancy, and you could scan the QR code and fill out the,

524
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:55,300
fill out the answers. There were questionnaire surveys that went to agencies, and then there were

525
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:59,660
that went out to sort of the Beaverton community at large.

526
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:00,960
It was bigger than that.

527
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:03,440
It was Hillsborough, Washington County, and Beaverton.

528
00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:04,800
So that's how it goes.

529
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,340
So it wasn't mailed to individual households or something

530
00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:08,720
like that.

531
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,780
It was more like a digital.

532
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,080
It was more what?

533
00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:15,760
Digital, mailers, and it was on the website.

534
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,200
So it was on, we put it on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

535
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:29,800
right. And then we also had a publication, like in the local media posts and we had it

536
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:38,080
online and on all of our websites with links. So out of the total number of the surveys

537
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:43,280
that was available went out. How would you say the percentage of return on the surveys?

538
00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:48,980
Do you have that information Heidi? I don't know actually the, I don't have the total

539
00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:54,260
number of some people call them touch points, like to try and promote the survey.

540
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:59,760
But what I can say, when we do statistically significant surveys, which we do sometimes

541
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,220
for comprehensive housing plans, the magic number is 400 people.

542
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,720
So you want, you know, generally if you're getting a capture of 400 across with good demographic

543
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:17,440
representation, you're, and there's more statistical stuff that goes into that, but your

544
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,360
margin of errors, you're pretty representative of the community overall and you had over 400

545
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:29,300
but we didn't collect data through a random sample and so we weren't trying to get statistical

546
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:37,100
representation. We're trying to get a decent representation of people and I have, you know,

547
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:43,040
I've spent money to do statistically significant surveys, they're very, very expensive for this

548
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,600
kind of work and HUD really, it doesn't matter to HUD if they're a representative sample.

549
00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:53,480
They just want to see enough load of modern income people and households represented in

550
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,440
the survey. That's really what they care about.

551
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Okay. The reason that I asked the question is that all the lists of the agency that we work

552
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:09,100
with, there's no Asian-related community organizations that was listed. You'll see the Hispanic

553
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:18,680
or just general in public, so I like to make a comment about that almost no Asian community had the feedback there.

554
00:48:20,060 --> 00:48:33,580
And then second of all, it says less than 20 were Asian or the sample was so low that you had to combine the data or that.

555
00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:40,160
on the survey for the disproportionate needs, or...

556
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:46,520
Yeah, when you show Hispanic, non-white, and Asian,

557
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,940
on the sub-category, on the node, it says less than 20 was collected.

558
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,430
So you had to comment on the disproportionate needs.

559
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,090
Yeah, so the reason I'm asking this question is

560
00:49:04,110 --> 00:49:12,770
We have a 42% to 45% non-white or people color residents in Beaverton and it looks like

561
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:16,990
very small number of our people of color sample were collected

562
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:25,370
So I like to give more effort in the collecting the data that actually represents somewhat of our population makeup

563
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:31,650
So let's say you're looking for 400 out of 400, at least 150 should be a people of color.

564
00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:35,550
That would represent the city of Pivot and population.

565
00:49:36,530 --> 00:49:36,710
Yes.

566
00:49:37,590 --> 00:49:37,750
Sorry.

567
00:49:38,290 --> 00:49:38,890
Yeah, please.

568
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:48,050
Yeah, we have put our advertisements also in the Asian reporter and with ERCO and with

569
00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:59,930
and we outreach to different agencies like the Korean Society of Oregon and then other Latino agencies as well.

570
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:30,760
It's hard to get people to respond back. We gave a $100 incentive cash prize, so I think we have three of those to give away. If they responded, they were putting a pot of money, putting a pot to be drawn for $400 or $100. So, yeah, I would love to have ideas about how to outreach to folks and get them to understand that their opinion matters.

571
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Yeah, I could have to hear that you're trying to effort.

572
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,140
Maybe you can talk in the future about how to get a question.

573
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,540
I was just going to add just generally, and I know staff has heard this, but I think

574
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:48,120
anytime there's any type of survey that you want from the community, I think all of us

575
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,920
have different types of connections to communities.

576
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:56,780
So whenever I get one, I try to send it out, and I know that we're an I'm not a KSO, but

577
00:50:56,780 --> 00:51:01,640
But I do think we try to do a good job of being connected to people.

578
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:06,220
So just something to keep in your mind, maybe working with the city manager's office, if there's something like that.

579
00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:10,220
In the future, we're always happy to push it out with groups that we're connected to as well.

580
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,280
Great, thank you.

581
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:11,820
Thank you.

582
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:12,440
Thank you.

583
00:51:12,740 --> 00:51:13,380
No other questions?

584
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,400
Thank you for the presentation and being here.

585
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,020
Of course, we look forward to giving you more information.

586
00:51:19,460 --> 00:51:19,760
Thank you.

587
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:30,060
So the next item on the agenda is a public hearing regarding a resolution,

588
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:36,180
adapting a supplemental budget for the fiscal year commencing July 1st, 2024, and making

589
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:42,420
appropriations therefrom. Anyone wishing to speak at this hearing should follow the instructions

590
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:48,400
included on the tonight's agenda. Each member of the public who speaks at tonight's hearing

591
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,700
will have a maximum of two minutes. We will begin with a short staff presentation from the city's

592
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:55,820
Finance Department.

593
00:51:58,580 --> 00:52:03,920
Good evening, Councillors. Deborah Lochner, Finance Director. So what you have in

594
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,760
front of you today is a supplemental budget request for our current budget. Various different

595
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:18,100
things that happen throughout the year that we are asking for you to approve our adjustments to the

596
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,760
budget. And so if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

597
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,620
Any questions?

598
00:52:30,130 --> 00:52:30,290
No?

599
00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:33,240
Okay. I'll now

600
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:37,160
Now open the public hearing, City Recorder, is there anyone to testify?

601
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,780
No council president, there is not.

602
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:46,040
There appears to be no member of the public who wishes to comment on this matter tonight.

603
00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:50,790
I will now close the public hearing.

604
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:53,390
What is the pleasure of the council, is there a motion?

605
00:52:58,070 --> 00:53:05,230
Yes, I will move to the council adopt resolution 4886, the resolution adopting a supplemental

606
00:53:05,230 --> 00:53:10,610
mental budget for the fiscal year commencing July 1st, 2024, and making appropriations there

607
00:53:10,610 --> 00:53:10,850
from.

608
00:53:11,350 --> 00:53:11,750
Second.

609
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:18,710
It was moved by Councillor Teeter, seconded by Councillor Hassan, any discussions?

610
00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:24,820
We're ready for a vote.

611
00:53:25,180 --> 00:53:27,420
Would the City Recorder please call the vote by roll?

612
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:29,100
Councillor Teeter.

613
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Yes.

614
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,720
Councillor Kimmy.

615
00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:32,340
Yes.

616
00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:33,720
Councillor Hassan.

617
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:34,420
Yes.

618
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,360
Councillor Hartmeier-Preg.

619
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:36,900
Yes.

620
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,780
Councillor Dugger.

621
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:39,380
Yes.

622
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:41,460
5-0-2.

623
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:44,980
We're moving along.

624
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,160
Next item on the agenda is the work session regarding Metro's regional systems facility

625
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,080
plan update.

626
00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:56,400
We'll begin the work session with a presentation by Scott, with Metro.

627
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:03,780
When the presentation is done, each Councillor will have the opportunity to comment on the presentations

628
00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:05,940
and ask questions of the presenter.

629
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,740
Please begin your presentation.

630
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:09,840
Council

631
00:54:12,310 --> 00:54:16,390
President and Councillors, I'm Scott Keller, Senior Program Manager for Sustainability

632
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:21,270
and Recycling, and here tonight with guests from Metro that I'm going to let introduce

633
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:26,910
themselves so they can get their titles appropriately to talk about the Metro Regional System Facilities

634
00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:27,430
Plan.

635
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:36,480
All right, excellent, thank you so much for introducing us with a light version here.

636
00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:42,400
Good evening, Council, Council President, it's a pleasure to be with you again.

637
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,960
And for the record, my name is Juan Carlos Gonzales, and I have the, I proudly have the

638
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,080
opportunity to serve as your Metro Counselor on a regional Metro Government.

639
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:57,900
Again, I want to thank you for inviting our team and myself to offer an update on the regional

640
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:59,120
and also synthesize these plans.

641
00:54:59,560 --> 00:54:59,980
I have a question.

642
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,940
A few things I want to share, and then I can hand it off to our team. The plan outlines a set of investments to increase access to garbage and recycling services, and facilities to reduce the amount of waste that gets sent to landfills. It updates equipment and infrastructure to make the system more efficient all while trying to keep costs as low as possible. There's no denying and from

643
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:35,040
the conversation we were able to have a few weeks ago, that garbage and recycling services,

644
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:41,020
especially on the west side, need to be more convenient, equitable, and affordable.

645
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,040
One of the key investments in the Regional System Facilities Plan that you'll get to see a

646
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,240
presentation on shortly here, that I'm excited about is a network of community drop-off depots across

647
00:55:52,240 --> 00:56:01,120
across the region that will drastically improve access to reuse, repair, recycling, composting,

648
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,180
and hazardous waste disposal for neighborhoods across Washington County and the metro area.

649
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,840
After extensive planning and close collaboration with local governments, your team included.

650
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,660
Industry partners and community groups.

651
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,440
The draft plan is now ready for review on the Metro website.

652
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Metro does invite the public to provide comments and take a survey on the plan

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and give us important feedback between now and October 31st. So I'm going to

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hand it off to Dr. Martin McGuire, our Waste Property Environmental Services

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Director, to take it from here and introduce the rest of the team. Thank you.

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Is the light on?

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No.

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How about now?

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Okay.

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Good evening, Council President and Counselors. Thank you again so much for having

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us. We are looking forward to giving you a presentation on the system facilities plan.

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I have here with me, SD Siegel, and in our virtual space, we have Louis Sandoval, who are both

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principal planners and Metro's waste prevention and environmental services department.

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We have a brief presentation for you today, and hopefully a good amount of time for discussion.

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We've also brought hard copies of LaPanne if you're interested in following the long that

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we can share with you. So if we go to the next slide.

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Currently, our work is guided by the 2030 regional waste plan.

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This is an ambitious plan for managing the region's garbage and recycling system with

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the key priorities that are listed here, and we partner with your communities to move

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this work forward.

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As Councillor Gonzales mentioned, we are here to discuss one of the key priorities of the plan

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that is focused on ensuring equitable and affordable services for everyone.

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To address this priority, the regional system facility plan focuses on addressing

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the most long-standing gaps in the system and taking a holistic view.

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Next slide. I want to just start with the term of garbage and recycling system

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and we really use this as an all-inclusive term to refer to the number of facilities

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that make up the system that it manages the regions waste and materials.

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This includes materials such as garbage and recycling and hazardous waste

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that you see on the left-hand column. The graphic shows how these materials move

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through the system, some materials, as you know, are picked up on the curbside, while

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others, such as healthful hazardous waste, must be taken directly to a facility.

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The system facilities plan is focused on that third column on facilities and services

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that support the transfer of materials to their final destination, including materials that

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may not be available at curbside, and other hard to dispose of items or items that may be recycled.

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Access to these services in the system are experienced differently by people throughout

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the region.

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We know we talked about this a bit at the last opportunity we had to engage with you.

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And the current distribution of facilities means that some people have easy access to

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these services, such as getting rid of large items, while others do not.

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Go to the next slide.

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A good example of the current state of our system is the Metro South Public Transpensation.

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This facility opened in April 1983.

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It was designed originally to host an incinerator,

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and the facility was expected to handle over 800 tons

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of waste every day.

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Fast forward to today, and Metro South

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processes more than 300,000 tons of waste a year,

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and many days handling more than 1,000 tons of garbage per day.

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And the challenges to the site are daily.

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We do our best at operating an overburden facility

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in a safe and efficient manner.

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However, to keep high-quality materials out of the landfill, we need more space to separate

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recyclable, reusable, and repairable items and to ensure safety, including the traffic,

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and redevelopment of the site is needed.

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Metro South is just one example of how over the last 40 years, the Garbage and Recycling

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We also know we live in a place where people care about the environment and are willing to spend more resources to keep valuable resources out of the landfill.

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Here is a picture of a local recycling event hosted by James Recycling just last month.

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And people waited in line more than half an hour to recycle items that cannot be collected

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at the curb and paid $3 a bag.

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This is just one example of the values in our region in practice.

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Next slide.

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To address this aging system, Metro Council directed us to complete a system facilities plan

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to take a holistic look at the region's facilities to identify investments needed to improve access

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facilities for everyone. This will be a 20-year vision to provide a roadmap for future

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investment. It's a vision document that will identify facility and program investments

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for the region to pursue. It's essentially a blueprint to set direction and any proposed

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investments will have many decision points along the way before full implementation. And

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it also calls out more areas that need additional study.

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Next slide.

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The slide is busy and has a lot of print on it, but hopefully illustrates over the last

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18 months, Metro has engaged with local government industry, community and tribal governments

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across the region, hosted an international symposium and engaged with Metro Council to develop

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the set of investments that you see in the draft plan before you.

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Each phase of the plan essentially was building a chapter.

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Each phase of the plan development was essentially building a chapter through an iterative process

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Starting with the values and outcomes and this slide here shows the many touch points with our partners and we are now in the final phase of plan development.

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Next slide.

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You can think of the plan essentially like a project roadmap. Here you can see an outline of the chapters that are in the plan and today we will be giving an overview of the investment strategy and financing approach.

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And with that I will turn it over to SD.

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I just want to do a quick recap of what we did over the last couple of years.

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After establishing the guiding values and outcomes, the project team engaged in activities

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and research to identify gaps in the region's system.

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And three of the key gaps that identified include gaps in access, residents and areas of

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Washington County and East Multnomah County, lack drop-off locations for recyclables hazardous

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waste and large reusable items.

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Facility gaps for collectors, companies collecting waste face challenges related to access,

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costs, and disaster resilience for food waste, yard debris, and garbage.

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And then also the needs of reuse organizations.

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Reuse and repair businesses require more warehousing space for sorting and storing items,

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along with consistent funding to enhance collection and distribution.

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So at the symposium last fall, we presented four scenarios to partners to consider.

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that outline different approaches Metro could take to address the identified gaps.

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And also outline different ways that Metro could fill the gaps.

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And you can see some of that on the right-hand side of the slide.

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Next slide.

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After the symposium and getting feedback from Metro Council,

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we heard strong support for a distributed model.

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And this approach focuses on creating smaller facilities throughout the region

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to improve access to services.

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A survey that we put out showed results that people appreciated elements from some of the other scenarios also including more support for existing reuse organizations and businesses and improving safety and efficiency at existing facilities.

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And the benefits of this model distributed model include greater access to services, increased recycling rates, better handling of hazardous waste and hard to recycle materials, and then also opportunities for public private partnerships.

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next slide. The draft plan that Metro has developed aims to enhance public and commercial

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facilities, food waste processing, and support reuse and repair organizations over the next

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20 years. You can see the four key investments here as listed in community drop off depots,

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reuse and repair, organics, and commercial transfer fees. And I'll now describe a bit more

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about these four investment areas and you can also read more.

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Starting with the community

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drop-off depots. The vision is to create a network of depots to fill gaps that were identified

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by our residents and small businesses, including more locations across the region to drop-off

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items for reuse, recycling, hazardous waste, and self-haul garbage all in one place. These

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facilities will be designed for public customers driving cars and small trucks apart from commercial

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and to be able to

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We'll be able to easily separate material for recovery to encourage waste reduction over garbage to landfill. You can see an example of a one stop drop off called an eco center in Burnabee, British Columbia, Canada. Next slide shows the approximate location of the network of six community depots envisioned in the plan and some of the modeling estimates for drive times recovery and people to be served at these new facilities.

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The reuse and repair area of the plan includes investments in two new facilities, a reuse

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warehouse and a reuse mall.

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Both projects would be planned and implemented in partnership with existing reuse organizations

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and businesses, and then also a third investment is proposed for a sustainable reuse funding

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program to support businesses and recovering and diverting even more materials from landfill.

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And next on to the organics section, food represents the single largest component of the

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region's disposal waste stream and is a significant contributor to greenhouse gas emissions.

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Metro Central plays a crucial role in transferring and pre-processing food waste before it reaches

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and markets.

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This facility handles 70% of the region's food waste.

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In our role, it is critical to maintain a contamination-free system to produce high-quality compost and avoid environmental and health risks from microplastics.

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So to improve the transfer and processing capacity of organics in the region, Metro will continue to invest in Metro Central as a regional hub for receiving residential and commercial organics from haulers.

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Also, in the organics realm on the next slide, Metro will develop public-private partnerships

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to support additional organics hubs in areas of the region where there are the greatest gaps.

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Then moving on to the fourth area around commercial transfer stations, Metro Council expressed

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support for repurposing over time, the two Metro commercial transfer stations central and

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to focus on providing the services that are more challenging to provide for the private

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sector, such as self-haul and organics transfer services.

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As the plan is proposing to convert Metro South to a community drop-off depot, this would

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create a service gap for commercial haulers in the southern part of the region, and to fill

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the gap, Metro would take a phased approach to seek to authorize a new commercial transfer station

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or develop a public-private partnership to build a new facility in that southern part of the region.

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There

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are two important areas that need more time for research assessment and discussion

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and this is around wet waste tonnage flow and private facility regulation.

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The plan includes two actions in this area, firstly to study the impact of lowering or

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removing Metro's tonnage guarantee, including evaluation of the current wet waste tonnage

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allocation program and second to assess options for private facility regulation to best serve

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the public.

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Actions are detailed more in the plan, and we'll begin when the plan is adopted by

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Metro Council.

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The next slide shows a visual representation of the facilities and investment projects

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proposed in the draft plan, and also summarizes some of the planned benefits.

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Please note that the facilities outlined with a gray circle around them, with dashed line

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on the map, do not have a specific location determined yet.

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That will be determined during implementation.

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On to talk a little bit about the costs on the next slide.

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So the proposed investments are estimated to cost about $273 million over the 20-year

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implementation.

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And just for comparison, the original scenarios the project presented at last year's symposium

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range from $280 million to more than $800 million.

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The investments will be financed through revenue bonds and with debt paid off over 20 years and the estimated increase in the garbage bill for a single family household in the region over the next two decades is between $1.50 and $2 per month on average in today's dollar.

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This stays within what we heard, people would be willing to pay for the services after the survey that was we put out after this.

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It's important to note again that this is a really a 20-year vision plan and the specific costs and timing of each project will be determined through Metro's annual budgeting process.

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The annual budget development and fee setting will be guided by the solid waste fee policy and with input from the regional waste.

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So, we wanted to just say, again, that there are two ways to provide feedback on the draft

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plan.

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You can leave a public comment or it take an online survey.

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Both opportunities can be found on the project website and will be open throughout the month

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of October.

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And then input we receive will help shape the final plan to be considered for adoption by Metro Council in December and set the foundation for future work to make the plan a real. That we just wanted to pose a couple of questions to start the discussion.

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Great. Great. I just want to add a few more things in addition to what our staff were able to share. So generally, you know, the greater Portland metro area ranks very high across the country and generally globally, I'd like to think.

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for recovery rates, for the kind of materials

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that were able to pull out of the garbage stream

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that don't go to the landfill.

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So that's a really important kind of north star

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for this plan that I want to highlight.

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There was some in the slides that SD and Dr. McGuire

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shared as well, there were a few metrics that stood out to me

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that I just kind of want to leave with you

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before we go into questions as well.

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So the aspirational plan, so with the community drop off depot plan, 20-minute driving distance

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for any person in the region to their nearest depot, baseline currently in the region that's

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40% with a new plan that would be 98% of people in the region would have that kind of access

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to a depot.

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Also Metro depots per 250,000 residents in the Portland metro area, currently our baseline

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is 0.3 depots per that kind of rate.

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With the new plan, we'd have 1.1.

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So just quadrupling the capacity essentially in that scale.

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And then lastly, with the organics segment

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that our staff talked about, that's really important.

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Again, I just want to highlight.

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And there's interesting science behind this.

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And if you open the packet to what we shared to you,

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I think this is the most photogenic, like photo of organics, waste, decomposing, and I

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want to see some of it, it does not look this pretty, so I don't know, we must have

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hired a firm to take that photo.

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But, you know, over 20, so when food decomposes, it creates methane, and that's why it's really

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important to take that out of the landfill.

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So for example, over 20 years, methane has the ability to be 80 times more potent than carbon

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in dioxide. So that's why it's so important as an environmental, as a climate priority

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for Metro that we prioritize specifically organic. So I wanted to like leave some of those

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numbers and to go on to the spirit of questions and conversation. Thank you so much for

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giving us the opportunity to come back and present.

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Okay.

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Councillor Hartmeyer, please. Thank you. Thank you for coming to visit. I covered

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for Mayor Badi yesterday at WCCC and it was very helpful to hear the presentation a second

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time because it's pretty complex and you know to kind of look at a 20-year plan and digest it so

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thank you and I saved questions from yesterday to save time since I knew I'd see you tonight.

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So a couple questions Councillor Gonzales when you're talking about you know the 20-minute drive

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like when if I look at where we anticipate the Cornelius station being that's not a 20-minute drive

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from like this side of district four even in non-traffic I think you're looking at like a 30-minute

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to drive. And so I'm just curious while part of the goal, especially around

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the thorganics and whatnot, is to reduce greenhouse gases. Like I think fever

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tin would potentially be contributing more, whether that's the self-haul or

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even just like where the transfer stations are located for our commercial

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haulers. So I'm curious, you know, exploration around being any closer to this

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part of the district. Yeah, of course not. I mean, go ahead. I have the

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I get it directed at you that like they're you know, they're on the payroll to like this is their mission

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So I'm happy that they're here to answer so yeah, I just would point out I want to make that clear

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It's a good question, but on page 60 there actually is a deep a proposed depot in southeast Washington County near

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It's not you know, again, this is one of the ones that are outlined. It's not there's not a site yet

866
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:22,790
But we're proposing a depot in the Beaverton, Aloha area

867
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:26,290
Um, so that's how we get the 20 minutes

868
01:14:26,290 --> 01:14:29,130
from here, not from the Cornelius site.

869
01:14:30,350 --> 01:14:30,510
Yeah.

870
01:14:31,210 --> 01:14:34,670
I think the other thing that I would add to it,

871
01:14:35,450 --> 01:14:38,350
is we took a measured approach with this plan.

872
01:14:38,530 --> 01:14:41,490
One of the challenges that was given to staff

873
01:14:41,490 --> 01:14:43,690
in developing the plan from Metro Council

874
01:14:43,690 --> 01:14:46,750
was both maximizing waste reduction

875
01:14:46,750 --> 01:14:49,250
and keeping valuable resources out of the landfill

876
01:14:49,250 --> 01:14:50,650
and keeping it affordable.

877
01:14:51,470 --> 01:14:54,130
So this is an increasing convenience.

878
01:14:54,130 --> 01:14:56,650
And so that's what you see represented in these depots.

879
01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:59,850
It doesn't mean that there can't be more or smaller.

880
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:29,980
So on that screen we see just just a택ake area in the resident's location. We have probably seen限 zawsze and not as the way in particular. That is just based on

881
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:42,340
I mentioned the goal is to have one in Southeast Washington County and that would really be decided upon with the county and the cities to determine where that eventual location is within that space.

882
01:15:42,860 --> 01:15:59,200
Thank you, and for the commercial, holler aspect of it though, and especially if central is intended to go away at some point, you know what does that look like from servicing our area because it means that those trucks then have to go further.

883
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,140
right there, they already go pretty far, especially with traffic in the area.

884
01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:05,060
I'm curious for that larger transportation too.

885
01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:08,000
I just think it's an important consideration.

886
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,280
Absolutely, and as we kind of move through it quickly, but

887
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:17,640
the supporting policy actions that look at the wet waste tonnage allocation and private facility regulation really

888
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:24,720
speaks to that, exactly, taking a closer look at what are the trade-offs of the system and

889
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:31,280
making changes to the wet waste and what we refer to as garbage or how we refer to garbage

890
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,300
and how that would move through the system.

891
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,520
So if Metro Central would move, what would that look like and what would be the implications

892
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,140
of Metro chain, like removing the tonnage guarantee that we currently have for public transportation?

893
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:48,360
We're not proposing that Metro Central would go away.

894
01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:53,060
We're proposing it would be a organic food hub and still take commercial haulers there,

895
01:16:53,060 --> 01:16:56,620
but potentially decrease the amount that Metro takes over time.

896
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:02,640
We'd relocate the self-haul and all the reuse recycling house, as it is waste, the new

897
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,060
North Portland community drop-off.

898
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,200
Metro Central would still be able to be serving commercial haulers.

899
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:09,880
Okay.

900
01:17:10,260 --> 01:17:10,560
Thank you.

901
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:12,360
Okay.

902
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,060
Councillor, can I add something on that too?

903
01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:21,400
I mean, for my vantage point on the council as well, like diving into it, because this

904
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,880
plan, we, the regional waste plan, which is the overall 10-year plan that is guiding,

905
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:32,720
this is just one of many things that the council is doing to modernize and to really kind

906
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:38,320
of update equity and our system and things like that, is, you know, at a high level, our

907
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:44,460
region is not for want when it comes to commercial tonnage capacity. I mean, if anything, that's

908
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:48,920
what I've learned from my process and staff please correct me if I'm wrong. But, you know,

909
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,820
So when the adip Metro and all the private capacity as well to absorb that, there's plenty

910
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:58,400
there which is why in our carnalia site when we acquired that there was so much conversation

911
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,340
about all the way from doing more commercial tonnage to doing community kind of this community

912
01:18:03,340 --> 01:18:09,100
depot focus and do this refinement process that the council went through, the staff went through

913
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:14,460
with our partners in our stakeholders like we really heard clearly from our industry partners,

914
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,780
from the private sector, from other community groups,

915
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,220
and from residents was, we really want Metro

916
01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:23,180
to help fill this gap, that like, there's just really,

917
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,700
it's a huge, it's the biggest gap in the system.

918
01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:27,400
It's like, where do we go as individuals

919
01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:30,780
to take our stuff when curbside can't take care of it?

920
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,560
So anyway, I just wanna kinda add that nuance

921
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,580
and hopefully it doesn't cause confusion.

922
01:18:34,980 --> 01:18:37,700
No, I think it did give me a follow-up question though,

923
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,000
because I'm gonna open the door.

924
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,040
Yeah, for the spirit of just sharing you.

925
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,200
Well, no, I think that's helpful context, but I'm curious does not

926
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,360
draw of any sort of jurisdictional regulation over fees at the private

927
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,300
transfer station then, right? Because if one of the goals is affordability, but

928
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:58,560
now that's going private, do we lose that potential mechanism to help keep

929
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,760
cost down? Metro does have the authority to regulate fees, but

930
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,220
currently does not, and that again speaks to the supporting policy actions that

931
01:19:07,220 --> 01:19:11,300
look at private facility regulation. Regulating rates is one of the

932
01:19:11,300 --> 01:19:15,800
that council has, and why it's important that those two,

933
01:19:16,220 --> 01:19:18,940
how waste is allocated through the system,

934
01:19:19,540 --> 01:19:22,060
the exploration of that and decreasing tonnage

935
01:19:22,060 --> 01:19:24,300
at the metro station needs to be paired

936
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:27,080
with the lever's private facility regulation.

937
01:19:28,180 --> 01:19:31,900
So that's the idea that those two supporting policy actions

938
01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:34,440
would be explored in concert with one another

939
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:37,380
in conversations with council.

940
01:19:37,380 --> 01:19:46,760
Yeah, so yes 100% and in addition to that, you know, like two years ago Metro overhauled our tonnage allocation model, which is like how

941
01:19:47,620 --> 01:19:50,140
Essentially the competitive commercial stations

942
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,280
How do you know what you're allocated throughout the year so and again?

943
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,840
I want to be careful with the words I use so like, you know, there's always like a care approach and the stick approach

944
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:28,180
In terms of like, do you just set a rate and that's the rate? Does that approach like represent the diversity of sites and travel and costs and different companies? The council decided to go a different route. And instead we created a criteria that had like six variables and depending on how a station performed against those variables. So like one was how close are you to public rates? What's your like living wage benefits and compensation?

945
01:20:28,180 --> 01:20:44,320
What are additional and there's, again, I can't remember the other four right up top of my head, but we decided to take that approach where, you know, if a company hit all six goals and they matched the public rate, they would have a benefit to getting more tonnage allocated to them.

946
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,940
And for the most part, most have taken advantage of that. Others have opted not to.

947
01:20:50,940 --> 01:20:53,880
So, that's, is that okay?

948
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:57,120
I want to share that because I think it's an important way

949
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,580
that we use policy to try and encourage

950
01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:01,580
and incentivize the outcomes we want to see.

951
01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:02,720
Yeah, definitely, thank you.

952
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,320
Okay, I have two more sorry colleagues.

953
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:10,840
Okay, a question about the $150 to $2 per month

954
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,160
that folks said that they would be willing to spend,

955
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:15,220
was that like an open question of like,

956
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:17,300
how much would you be willing to spend on this?

957
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:34,220
For the survey last year, and Luis, my colleagues on the phone, he might have more to say, but for the survey, we actually asked, are you willing to pay up to, I think it was $3, $4, it was in levels or no dollars.

958
01:21:34,420 --> 01:21:39,440
Yeah, and so the majority, thinking of the people, said they'd be willing to pay between an increase of $3 to $4.

959
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:44,140
Now the survey respondents there was 120 of them and it was based on the folks who attended

960
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:51,280
the symposium and some of our other project partners, so it wasn't huge but yes, that

961
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,300
was the majority of folks said they'd be willing to pay between $3 and $4.

962
01:21:54,660 --> 01:21:59,260
Was that, but were they given the contextual information of how much you pay right now?

963
01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:05,220
And you know, because I think, I mean I think it's so timely, Marta and Councillor Gonzalez

964
01:22:05,220 --> 01:22:10,480
came and sauce recently, right about these fees. And so I'm just kind of curious, were

965
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:14,860
they given that context of like, hey, and you pay this monthly now, you know, to kind

966
01:22:14,860 --> 01:22:18,180
of level set, yeah, what type of increase am I willing to engage with?

967
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:21,060
It was given with relative context, maybe it looks like Lisa.

968
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,800
Yes, yes, so this was in the context of the four scenarios of what you did yourself.

969
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:32,540
Sorry, can you hear yourself for the record? Oh, yes, I'm sorry. Good evening, cancers for

970
01:22:32,540 --> 01:22:33,460
So the record, my name is Luis,

971
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:36,720
send a lot, I am a Solid Waste planner at Metro,

972
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,520
and thank you for having us tonight.

973
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:44,480
I just wanted to dig right into the response.

974
01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,120
So this was in the context of the four scenarios

975
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,880
that were presented at the symposium.

976
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,340
And so each of the scenarios had a cost associated with it.

977
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:56,300
And so the server question asked,

978
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:02,200
would you be willing to spend an additional $3

979
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:09,100
based on the cost of the distributed scenario compared to today's average of $39 per month.

980
01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:16,420
That was the average garbage, single-family garbage bill at the time last year, and then for

981
01:23:16,420 --> 01:23:25,960
the no-bill scenario, it was up to $11 per month. So the options were arranged from $0 to $11 per month,

982
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:34,240
And most people answered between 3 and 4, 80, I believe, was the cost of the full service scenario.

983
01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:41,760
And if I could add, I know you just had a presentation where you were asking like, was this a statistical poll? Is it a representative poll?

984
01:23:42,260 --> 01:23:47,180
Is it like more, but some like really mindful is like, you know, it's the Econ staffs and all that stuff.

985
01:23:47,180 --> 01:23:53,580
So this was a like an opt-in survey where Metro put out a survey people were able to answer if they just it

986
01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:59,820
Sound like we call the fully statistical sample so it's a temperature check so I want to make sure to that we're like not talking about

987
01:23:59,820 --> 01:24:06,380
This is the opinion of all the regions diversity and things like that. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Last one for me

988
01:24:06,380 --> 01:24:09,500
So census is like that 20-year plan, you know

989
01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:14,740
We're kind of like looking at waste of the future or reducing waste and then

990
01:24:14,740 --> 01:24:18,260
And Council Consulate is hearing that you're also, this is like a piece of the regional

991
01:24:18,260 --> 01:24:18,780
waste plan.

992
01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:23,800
I'm curious, like, what type of exploration was done around like non-land fill options

993
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:24,840
for managing waste?

994
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,100
And, you know, like, what type of innovation is out there in the world that we could be looking

995
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:29,520
into?

996
01:24:29,980 --> 01:24:30,060
Right?

997
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,940
If we're kind of looking at like this transformative potential way of dealing with waste,

998
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,600
what else was considered?

999
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,620
Because I feel like I see a lot of the traditional, just like, you know, I mean, it's great to, like,

1000
01:24:40,620 --> 01:24:46,080
maybe dive deeper in organics and you've got something that we can affect our

1001
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,300
greenhouse gas emission reductions through that but what about other options?

1002
01:24:52,710 --> 01:24:57,230
I guess so part of the exploration of this was bringing in international

1003
01:24:57,230 --> 01:24:59,890
national experts from around the world and that

1004
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,800
Was the symposium that we had experts from a Sweden Denmark, New Zealand, Canada, and Colorado to share the innovation that they have done in their communities. The reuse mall was inspired by one of the vice by Sweden looking at what they've done in New Zealand with organics. So we did draw on and Vancouver BC has done an incredible amount of things with both producer responsibility laws and reuse and recycling.

1005
01:25:30,420 --> 01:25:34,560
some of the greatest impacts that we can have as Councilor Gonzalez noted is

1006
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,380
with food waste and we're not there yet. We have a lot more investment that's

1007
01:25:38,380 --> 01:25:43,380
needed in our transfer and processing capacity as well as reuse. Those are

1008
01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:48,480
really big climate levers that we have in pulling those materials out of the

1009
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:52,580
waste stream. So that's where we're starting. But there's still additional

1010
01:25:52,580 --> 01:25:57,960
opportunities looking ahead at other materials to spur innovation. So we are

1011
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,120
We're trying to push that envelope.

1012
01:25:59,940 --> 01:26:02,380
Yeah, and like we got a grant from,

1013
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,060
or a Congressional Directorate Spending Award

1014
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:09,140
from one of our U.S. Senators to acquire a D-packager,

1015
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,160
which is important.

1016
01:26:11,020 --> 01:26:13,820
And also, you know, the city of Portland

1017
01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:17,700
is purchasing a degester, like anaerobic degester

1018
01:26:17,700 --> 01:26:19,920
to create a slurry that can then be used

1019
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:20,820
for like renewable natural.

1020
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:22,800
So there's like really cool stuff happening,

1021
01:26:22,820 --> 01:26:25,400
but it's on this like precipice

1022
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:31,660
of using these technologies, and I want to share, personally, again, for my own learning,

1023
01:26:32,540 --> 01:26:38,920
like, there are as much as there will, like, the desire to go after these really transformative

1024
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:43,080
technologies is appealing, and where we, I think we also recognize that, like, garbage

1025
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:49,820
is a life cycle, it's a process, right? So, as soon as our manufacturing and raw materials

1026
01:26:49,820 --> 01:26:53,900
are extracted, that sets the course for, you know, what's going to go to the landfill

1027
01:26:53,900 --> 01:26:58,120
fill or not. And what we're recognizing is that we're in this, again, this, this

1028
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:03,580
opportunity for Metro to have the biggest impact is like, how can we help people redirect

1029
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:09,860
as much materials before they go to the landfill? I mean, eventually it would be amazing to

1030
01:27:09,860 --> 01:27:15,060
not have that, but there's so many global things that play at, you know, landfills are a part

1031
01:27:15,060 --> 01:27:21,280
of, of our life. And we take great pride in our partnerships to run good landfills that

1032
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,920
to protect our environment and things like that

1033
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,940
and decommissioning them when possible.

1034
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,960
But a lot of it is that human behavior aspect.

1035
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,160
And again, like carrot or stick,

1036
01:27:31,340 --> 01:27:33,780
we want to provide an abundance of options to people

1037
01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:36,080
and make it as easy as possible

1038
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,140
to reduce as much going to the landfill as possible.

1039
01:27:39,700 --> 01:27:44,020
And then we have the Recycling Modernization Act

1040
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:46,520
and like all these extended producer responsibility things

1041
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,160
that are trying to do like much more deep

1042
01:27:49,160 --> 01:28:03,700
in the like what's being manufactured, what can we buy at the grocery store, and but that gets into weird things around like choice, and you already know where I'm going with that and in like the role of government and deciding that, but yeah, that's that's what we're doing.

1043
01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:07,020
Also the Douggers.

1044
01:28:09,380 --> 01:28:17,480
Hello, thank you. I don't know about you guys. I've thought and talked more about trash in the last three weeks in any point in my life.

1045
01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:19,140
Awesome.

1046
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,980
I'm not sure that it is, but we'll go with that, but thank you for being here.

1047
01:28:24,220 --> 01:28:25,620
I want to put that on bumper sticker account.

1048
01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:26,740
Always.

1049
01:28:28,340 --> 01:28:31,000
I'll start with a question just because I'm curious about it.

1050
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:37,280
So the commercial depots, the six of them, I think I saw the capital cost for the construction.

1051
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:39,340
How are those funded on an ongoing basis?

1052
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:44,660
Is it like user charges or is it like part of the fees or do you guys have that worked

1053
01:28:44,660 --> 01:28:44,900
out?

1054
01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:49,460
That's a great question. So for the community depots, those would be funded by the regional

1055
01:28:49,460 --> 01:28:55,120
system fee. So specifically for the materials that can be recycled and household hazardous

1056
01:28:55,120 --> 01:29:00,780
waste and those items for reuse would be funded by the regional system fee. The self-haul

1057
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:05,880
garbage would be funded by the salt waste fee. So that's what you refer to as user cost. That

1058
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,660
would be the cost of service for somebody to dispose of whatever load that they're bringing.

1059
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,520
And that kind of gets to a little bit of the complexity of the way that our fees are structured.

1060
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:21,080
In the, just for reference, the regional system fee is charged on every ton of garbage in

1061
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,100
the region that funds our, we talked a little bit about that at our last engagement that

1062
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:27,380
funds all of the waste reduction programming in the region.

1063
01:29:27,580 --> 01:29:32,960
So people would be able to drop off these materials, reuse recycling, household hazardous waste

1064
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,940
at no additional cost at these facilities.

1065
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,160
But the self-haul would be at a cost.

1066
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,380
Would be at a cost.

1067
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:39,660
Yes.

1068
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:40,760
Further cost of service.

1069
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:41,220
Okay.

1070
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:41,560
Yeah.

1071
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,660
that's helpful. You asked a lot of my questions actually, so you were doing it well.

1072
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,760
I can tell you one of my priorities and you guys missed the presentation I think right

1073
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,440
before where we talked about our community development block grant. One of the things

1074
01:29:54,440 --> 01:29:59,320
that stood out to me is our low income households are increasing significantly, particularly

1075
01:29:59,320 --> 01:29:59,960
on the west side.

1076
01:30:00,620 --> 01:30:06,460
May be by 4,000 if I'm remembering, 4,000 households over the next few years. And one of the things

1077
01:30:06,460 --> 01:30:12,160
that we do for our garbage is we subsidize, right? And so, like I do think about this in a way

1078
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,560
that I did not a month ago or a month and a half ago or whatever, and I think about the

1079
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:21,540
impact. And so, one of my priorities, and I hope it sure will be like stabilizing that wet

1080
01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:27,040
waste cost, too, because for folks like a lot of us in this room, a few dollars a month

1081
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,320
not big of a deal.

1082
01:30:30,580 --> 01:30:34,240
Not only have we talked about trash, but I had a lot, you know, the

1083
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:38,900
notice went out to Beaverton Reservance and everyone knows me, so they're stopping

1084
01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:45,300
and I actually had an elderly neighbor almost started crying because, you know, they're

1085
01:30:45,300 --> 01:30:49,540
waiting for social security increases and it becomes every little dollar has to stretch.

1086
01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:55,340
So, like, again, I think for a lot of us, it's $3 isn't that much, but I just want to be

1087
01:30:55,340 --> 01:31:01,860
be really careful with our wet waste costs particularly and just figuring out how to make

1088
01:31:01,860 --> 01:31:05,820
it as equitable as possible. I know that's a priority for Metro already. So if you guys

1089
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:12,360
could just really think about that. And then just one comment in addition, I know you're

1090
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:23,080
exploring the south facility and potentially a public private partnership or creating a

1091
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:23,620
a new structure.

1092
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:32,180
I would defer to you all on that. My current preference is just keep

1093
01:31:32,180 --> 01:31:37,440
it as public as possible, just to keep it even throughout the region. But I don't know.

1094
01:31:37,820 --> 01:31:42,760
The important thing is the outcomes. I'm drawn to keeping certain services as public.

1095
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,840
It's an important service that we deliver to our constituents, and so totally open to that

1096
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:54,360
otherwise, but just protecting that kind of day-to-day cost while investing in the future

1097
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:59,500
and in protecting our climate, too, right, because the cost of an action is there, too.

1098
01:31:59,780 --> 01:32:03,240
So I appreciate you guys coming tonight, and I think that's it for me.

1099
01:32:05,550 --> 01:32:06,190
Councillor Hussain.

1100
01:32:06,250 --> 01:32:07,510
Can I respond, President?

1101
01:32:09,190 --> 01:32:15,630
Councillor Vetter, thank you for sharing, especially the story of your neighbor, and there's

1102
01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:19,970
like no question this cost of living environment that we're living through, which is really

1103
01:32:19,970 --> 01:32:32,470
impacting all of us in one shape form or another, so I just want to acknowledge that and that space and our responsibility at Metro to do right by them and all of our residents to meet our regional goals.

1104
01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:41,870
Earlier you also mentioned something about like multifamily and the focus on that. I'm really proud to like to shape shifting gears here.

1105
01:32:41,870 --> 01:32:46,270
you know, since I've joined the Metro Council, we've like, I keep using the word

1106
01:32:46,270 --> 01:32:51,370
overhauled, but haul, it's a word, I guess, with garbage, but we've really

1107
01:32:51,370 --> 01:32:58,590
overhauled our approach to serving multifamily, and like, I want to share an

1108
01:32:58,590 --> 01:33:04,310
example of a project that was so technically like a regulatory difficult to see

1109
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:08,030
through, but it was so important, and we had amazing partners at Washington

1110
01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:15,310
county to help us see this through but like streamlining the stickers that you put on

1111
01:33:15,310 --> 01:33:22,610
the garbage bins at multifamily was so hard for the whole region and like colors of bins

1112
01:33:22,610 --> 01:33:30,250
I mean like it is it was so it but it has had like a really tangible effect to creating

1113
01:33:30,250 --> 01:33:36,310
again that like if you move from you know tiger to beaver tin or beaver tin to to Gresham

1114
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:38,430
and you're participating in our garbage system.

1115
01:33:38,890 --> 01:33:41,610
Like you're seeing the same messaging about

1116
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:44,070
like how do you participate, what goes where?

1117
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:47,550
And so that's been like an example of one big thing

1118
01:33:47,550 --> 01:33:50,490
and a whole bunch of other initiatives

1119
01:33:50,490 --> 01:33:52,230
across multifamily that I'm happy,

1120
01:33:52,290 --> 01:33:53,870
we're happy to share with you and follow up with.

1121
01:33:54,150 --> 01:33:55,650
But I wanted to provide that example

1122
01:33:56,290 --> 01:33:58,730
because our garbage system is so cross-cutting

1123
01:33:58,730 --> 01:34:00,030
across so many jurisdictions.

1124
01:34:00,790 --> 01:34:01,910
And so when we make changes,

1125
01:34:02,210 --> 01:34:04,350
they have huge ripple effects to your point.

1126
01:34:04,350 --> 01:34:06,090
but I'm really proud of that one.

1127
01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:07,350
Yeah, no, thank you for sharing that.

1128
01:34:07,390 --> 01:34:08,650
I know government moves slow.

1129
01:34:09,570 --> 01:34:10,550
Everything is hard.

1130
01:34:11,130 --> 01:34:13,210
But so we actually do appreciate all those things.

1131
01:34:13,330 --> 01:34:14,090
And thank you for sharing that.

1132
01:34:14,370 --> 01:34:14,550
Of course.

1133
01:34:14,690 --> 01:34:15,630
Thank you.

1134
01:34:16,570 --> 01:34:17,370
That's last time.

1135
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:19,330
Hi, friends.

1136
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:22,750
I just want you to know that across the street,

1137
01:34:22,890 --> 01:34:25,930
there's this shop called Mama and Habba's Zero Way Shop.

1138
01:34:26,210 --> 01:34:29,310
And if you're looking to redirect away from landfill,

1139
01:34:29,530 --> 01:34:30,790
that is one way to start.

1140
01:34:31,130 --> 01:34:32,150
Have you been yet?

1141
01:34:32,450 --> 01:34:33,150
Just say yes.

1142
01:34:33,650 --> 01:34:49,710
I just I we discovered it pretty recently and we like my daughter likes to do the card and fill the things and we're waiting to just get rid of certain things so that we can move more to it so I just share that because y'all it's across the street so I'm checking out.

1143
01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:59,850
I just had one maybe clarifying question, when you talked about private facility regulation, was that related to like the

1144
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:28,280
The concept of reselling things, or was that specific to waste? And I'm sorry, there was like a slide if it would help. Okay. So it's a fair question. So when we referred to a private facility regulation that is referring to the regulation of private, solid waste facilities. So the transfer stations essentially is what that's primarily focused on. Metro as the solid waste authority has oversight on any private, solid waste facility in the region.

1145
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:36,420
So, we monitor their compliance and have different, as I mentioned earlier, different levels such as the price controls.

1146
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:44,960
Ton of allocation is one that Councillor Gonzalez mentioned where we allocate wet waste to the existing private transfer stations.

1147
01:35:45,780 --> 01:35:50,280
Is it okay if can we pull up this? There was like this one other side that I was just curious about.

1148
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:53,660
It's the slide with the store like reselling things.

1149
01:35:53,660 --> 01:35:57,980
Oh, the re-use fall. Yeah, the re-use fall. Yeah, I want that.

1150
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:05,860
So we presented at the City of Milwaukee last week, it gave the same presentation and

1151
01:36:05,860 --> 01:36:10,860
one of the counselors said, who do we have to arm wrestle to get the re-use small in our

1152
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:17,400
location. And this is what we're input from you all, it is critically important. This

1153
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,380
This isn't, this is a concept that's included in the plan.

1154
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:25,600
It is open to where that mall could be located.

1155
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,760
But in this is where the partnerships with cities and counties become critically important.

1156
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,300
And it may not necessarily have to be one.

1157
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:38,560
It could be smaller, I mean what we talked about at the Milwaukee City Council was a smaller.

1158
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,080
What if there were multiple smaller ones, much like you did the community depots instead

1159
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:44,220
of one central one.

1160
01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:53,700
And so this is where understanding kind of where the city councils are at in terms of important priorities of investment for you all.

1161
01:36:53,780 --> 01:37:00,620
This is something that really resonated with the number of audiences and residents as something that they would be interested in.

1162
01:37:00,780 --> 01:37:12,080
Hopefully we'll learn more through the community survey that we have for the plan where it asks how frequently if this would people visit this if it existed and that can also inform decision making moving forward.

1163
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:20,080
and also Councillor page 55 on the has like the big title private facility regulation you'll

1164
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:24,960
see metro transfer stations private transfer stations material recovery facilities recycling

1165
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:31,900
compost facilities and you know many of those are private I guess I mean just you know for folks

1166
01:37:31,900 --> 01:37:37,680
to hear the council knows I'm going to be hosting a lot of people in my home soon and laws are coming

1167
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:43,660
from out of town and the decluttering process of our home was the reality of how much we consume

1168
01:37:43,660 --> 01:37:50,700
and how much we over consume and I do think our community in Beaverton is as great as they

1169
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:55,960
can be around recycling and reusing and those kinds of things and so just continuing to find ways

1170
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:01,400
for us to divert away from land use whether that is arm wrestling with Milwaukee for something like

1171
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:05,820
this but just having that conversation like I think there are people that would want to you know

1172
01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:08,620
figure out how to, like, there is that community exists.

1173
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:11,340
I think if I heard the mayor speak correctly,

1174
01:38:11,460 --> 01:38:15,000
we're the only one city in Oregon with a climate action plan.

1175
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,160
Someone, oh, okay, well, I heard it,

1176
01:38:17,260 --> 01:38:18,420
and maybe it's true, maybe it's not,

1177
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:21,760
but I think we've got some super, like, active folks

1178
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,040
who we want to, like, push those kinds of things forward.

1179
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,240
I just wanted to drop, I mean, other councillors said it,

1180
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,480
but making sure that Westside has more options,

1181
01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:32,240
I think that's really important,

1182
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,460
But I would like these. Thank you.

1183
01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:44,640
And if I may add just a little time a bit since you mentioned the zero waste business across the city council.

1184
01:38:44,900 --> 01:38:50,100
So the reuse mall concept is not just about reuse, but it's about promoting sustainable consumption.

1185
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,380
So you could imagine a business like that also

1186
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,140
potentially being located at a facility like this one, right?

1187
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,580
Yes, and to be clear, I'm not promoting just that.

1188
01:39:00,580 --> 01:39:03,540
No, there are many other businesses that do that sort of thing.

1189
01:39:03,660 --> 01:39:06,100
That's just the one that happens to be across the street that I know.

1190
01:39:06,340 --> 01:39:08,880
So please encourage you all to zero waste.

1191
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,280
Thank you for coming in.

1192
01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:11,080
Of course, Councillor.

1193
01:39:11,260 --> 01:39:14,820
And so in addition to the public facilities and the private facilities,

1194
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,280
and again, the parliamentary, just like, it's such a cultural thing.

1195
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,120
So like, it's a part of our behavior in this region to just think about that.

1196
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,660
And sometimes I feel like we take that for granted because there are other regions

1197
01:39:26,660 --> 01:39:29,700
that very much do not prioritize that.

1198
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:32,560
and also put their own money in their rates

1199
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,820
and to prioritize this diversion.

1200
01:39:35,260 --> 01:39:37,500
We have like a really amazing network

1201
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:39,980
of nonprofit community-based organizations,

1202
01:39:40,180 --> 01:39:44,380
community warehouse, among many others that just like

1203
01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:49,260
do dope stuff, that's my formal term.

1204
01:39:49,660 --> 01:39:51,880
So I want to acknowledge that we are also trying to figure

1205
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,140
out through like this reprioritization,

1206
01:39:55,620 --> 01:39:57,820
how Metro also creates sustainable funding

1207
01:39:57,820 --> 01:39:59,740
for these community organizations.

1208
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:29,980
I'm going to have to add, thank you for sharing that perspective. I do think that community-based partnership or that, like, talking to those folks, because, like, I'm in this WhatsApp group, that, like, if someone needs a bed, like, it's a 48 hour. That is, like, that is community-based.

1209
01:40:29,980 --> 01:40:34,600
based mutual aid work and so just thinking about how we continue to partner with those groups

1210
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:38,440
because some of them are doing it they don't that's not organizational they don't you know just

1211
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:43,560
making sure that we're sort of infiltrating all of those groups that are doing that work. Thank you

1212
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,240
again. I was with Peter if

1213
01:40:49,580 --> 01:40:54,580
I continue to learn more about garbage. And I'm not an expert in this so

1214
01:40:54,580 --> 01:40:59,020
thank you for bringing us a little bit more up to speed. I was going to make a point about their

1215
01:40:59,020 --> 01:41:05,860
re-use center as well. The Beaverton Transit Center is the busiest transit center in the

1216
01:41:05,860 --> 01:41:12,200
network, and so I want to make a quick plug for this area, being a very competitive candidate

1217
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:19,220
for this sort of service. I think a lot about our pricing and the rates that we'd be paying

1218
01:41:19,220 --> 01:41:21,620
to help fund these improvements.

1219
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,060
And the high level, the high level of perspective where

1220
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:33,020
I'm coming from is how can we raise the money that we would need but have the least burden

1221
01:41:33,020 --> 01:41:36,520
some impact on the people who would feel that weight the most.

1222
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:41,500
So we've talked about if it's a two-door increase, like I'll be okay, but a good percentage

1223
01:41:41,500 --> 01:41:42,960
of Beaverton might not.

1224
01:41:43,580 --> 01:41:49,200
And so are there ways that we can structure this rate, whether it's a reduced rate program

1225
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,000
that we've got for our local waste collection fees?

1226
01:41:53,460 --> 01:42:01,640
Maybe if you qualify by income level or just by some sort of need classification you're eligible for these reduced rates.

1227
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:15,420
I just want us to think about how we can structure these fees so that the burden is not felt on people who would be driven out of the region because they can't afford a few extra dollars on top of the other rates that are increasing at the same time.

1228
01:42:16,820 --> 01:42:18,800
That's just the perspective I'm bringing into this.

1229
01:42:19,220 --> 01:42:21,780
I would love to learn more about this as we keep on going forward.

1230
01:42:21,780 --> 01:42:22,360
Thank

1231
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:39,730
you. We got to the fees. I just have a question. Right before I left Nepal we had you come in. We can discuss about fees being increases and that's we have significant discussion about that.

1232
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:49,610
And this is going to add $2 or maybe $3 in next 20 years or so. That's before we start purchasing trucks, right?

1233
01:42:52,220 --> 01:42:53,660
before we start purchasing.

1234
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,300
Trucks, garbage trucks, am I being...

1235
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:08,680
Yeah, I think that would be kind of on top of any local increases that would be supporting

1236
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:13,640
the Beaverton system, which is where the trucks would come in, so this would be, we would

1237
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:18,540
pay for our own operational expenses, and then the tip fee that we were talking about a couple

1238
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:22,940
All weeks ago, one component of that is the regional system fee that they've talked about.

1239
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:29,540
And so the tip fee might increase and it will indirectly be passed on to all of us but

1240
01:43:29,540 --> 01:43:33,800
it would be on top of the operational expenses that we talked about two weeks ago.

1241
01:43:34,340 --> 01:43:40,220
So how much would that impact the residents when you add up all these fees within next five

1242
01:43:40,220 --> 01:43:40,480
years?

1243
01:43:41,380 --> 01:43:42,700
Well, that's a great question.

1244
01:43:42,980 --> 01:43:44,960
I'm not sure if we have that.

1245
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,320
I mean, there's a there'll definitely be an impact

1246
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:54,560
Counselor and you know again, just building off of what your staff said, you know city is that you have your local hauler

1247
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:55,640
contract management

1248
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,340
Metro overseas the system

1249
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:04,540
We pay for a lot of these services are also paid for by the trash that's taken to the transfer station

1250
01:44:04,540 --> 01:44:09,700
So some fees are inherently built in already so I I don't want to say the wrong thing

1251
01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:11,160
So I want to I need to lean on the

1252
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:41,040
I think the short answer is Metro sets regional fees that fund the regional programs such as these infrastructure investments and other waste reduction programs and local governments that the curbside collection rates for your cities or counties for that level right so I mean scouts accurate and that this would be a component essentially it does end up getting passed through to your rate setting and I don't have the answer to your question as the dollar not tonight but one of the lessons learned from our conversations the last couple of meetings is that in the

1253
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,800
future when we come with rate proposals we also want to kind of provide you with more information,

1254
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,960
break that down into more smaller pieces so you know how it all, where it's all coming about

1255
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,840
rather than just lump some amounts. But also we want to start working with our consultant and the

1256
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:59,920
region about coming up with some beaverton forecasts for our rates in the

1257
01:45:00,780 --> 01:45:28,900
What's coming in the future? One, two, three years down the road. We've typically kind of only looked at this is what it is now based on last year and what we're doing right now. But we haven't really been asked to look ahead. One of the lessons we've heard from you from a couple of weeks ago is you kind of want to know what's coming ahead, not just right now, but what's coming in the next three to five years. There will be some speculative numbers. They'll be a little bit fuzzy, but we can certainly make a forecast and we'd like to do that in the future.

1258
01:45:28,900 --> 01:45:35,080
when we come back for future rate increases so that you kind of see that big picture not just what's happening in this moment.

1259
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:40,340
Right, and thank you for that because right now we're looking at dollar two and here dollar two.

1260
01:45:41,060 --> 01:45:47,560
But then as somebody who's going to get the bill, you're looking at a whole chunk of money adding on.

1261
01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:56,560
And then some kind of want to see what's the impact of the residence when you add up all the fees and you get one bill from the city, right?

1262
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:03,000
right? So then they're going to only see the big number rather than this is all the

1263
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:08,940
decisions have been made that we did our job to minimize the cost. But somebody who doesn't

1264
01:46:08,940 --> 01:46:13,940
go through this just know the last result is a big number. So I'd like to maybe get an

1265
01:46:13,940 --> 01:46:14,240
idea.

1266
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:20,760
Yeah. And why would just add briefly what Scott was mentioning around looking out. I mean

1267
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:25,860
that is something that we are working to do as well of having a five year forecast. So if

1268
01:46:25,860 --> 01:46:30,180
this plan is adopted by Metro Council. You can look at the end, it's kind of chunked

1269
01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:35,820
up in three different phases. So we would be able to forecast out what that fee increase

1270
01:46:35,820 --> 01:46:42,120
would look like over time. And I will just add, I think we can do a better job of making

1271
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:47,520
sure when you're adopting fees or Metro is setting new fees that we're sharing that information

1272
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:51,920
with you and giving you the opportunity to provide input in that. So I really did appreciate

1273
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:58,600
the opportunity to speak with you and I hope that a regular annual engagement as as you're

1274
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,180
working on fees so we can share that information directly.

1275
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:07,640
Yeah and President, Council President came in if I could add on that so you know this is

1276
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:14,540
this document in itself is just like a concept of a plan for things that we want to do there's

1277
01:47:14,540 --> 01:47:19,980
always deeper work to understand like how much is it actually going to cost once you start doing

1278
01:47:19,980 --> 01:47:23,420
those layout and things like that, and that's why it's really important when we're

1279
01:47:23,420 --> 01:47:26,760
in here a few weeks ago too, we're talking about another thing that Metro's

1280
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:31,220
overhauled as a part of the regional waste plan is RWAC, which is the regional

1281
01:47:31,220 --> 01:47:37,680
Waste Advisory Committee, and the new structure will have a much deeper

1282
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:43,340
representation from local governments, and I think a different balance of that

1283
01:47:43,340 --> 01:47:48,520
direct advice and recommendations to the council, so you know we're putting

1284
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:53,780
that together, you know, we've had a bevy of local electives from across the region

1285
01:47:53,780 --> 01:48:00,420
apply to that. You know, once eventually, you know, in a scenario that this plan is approved

1286
01:48:01,090 --> 01:48:06,960
and we would love your support to do that when we, if it does come to that, our whack will have

1287
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:13,400
a very important role in the implementation in asking those questions before recommendations

1288
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,440
for execution comes to the council.

1289
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,180
So I also want to add that layer of governance

1290
01:48:19,180 --> 01:48:21,380
and decision making that we've really been thinking about

1291
01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:23,800
because you're right, as local cities,

1292
01:48:24,380 --> 01:48:28,000
you have the deepest connection to your rate payers.

1293
01:48:29,540 --> 01:48:31,680
And it's important for us to get that feedback.

1294
01:48:31,740 --> 01:48:35,200
So I want to highlight as well that we don't want to make

1295
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:40,460
those decisions in a vacuum or in an ivory tower by any sense.

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01:48:40,460 --> 01:48:43,760
but it's important that I explain that as well.

1297
01:48:44,300 --> 01:48:45,060
Thank you for that.

1298
01:48:45,660 --> 01:48:47,640
One last comment, thank you all.

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01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,420
I'm also fan of a recycle and reuse,

1300
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:54,380
except the fact that it's gonna cost Metro $37 million

1301
01:48:54,740 --> 01:48:57,060
to build one where we have active,

1302
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,080
habitat and other organizations that's already doing the work.

1303
01:49:00,900 --> 01:49:02,480
So I rather save some money

1304
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:04,420
and then empower those organizations

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01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:07,180
rather than create new, that's my own opinion.

1306
01:49:07,180 --> 01:49:12,060
I like to have more, but then is the Metro building the business of recycle and repair?

1307
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:17,840
It's out of expense of $37 million and we don't know how much that's going to increase over time.

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01:49:18,620 --> 01:49:22,380
So what is the cost analysis and what's the benefit doing that?

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01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,000
Where for me, I do recycling every year from my organization.

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01:49:27,860 --> 01:49:29,480
They come and take a look at the picture.

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01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:31,880
They only take the ones that are sellable.

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01:49:32,660 --> 01:49:36,720
And then you're left with the materials that you cannot sell.

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01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,540
So you end up paying the haulers to come and haul it away.

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01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:42,680
So really easy-effective.

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01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:46,660
So that's one of the questions I want to just throw out there.

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01:49:47,180 --> 01:49:51,420
When you do analysis, who's actually getting benefit?

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01:49:53,180 --> 01:49:56,860
And do the people actually can afford to bring it out there

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01:49:56,860 --> 01:49:59,800
and leave it where they might get rejected?

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:23,940
We're going to have to do that and send it back. And it happens all the time. So even the good will do not accept mattresses anymore. They don't take any big furniture anymore because it costs them money to throw them away. So it costs personally money for us to throw them out when we get donations. So something something I like to just have a question out there. To consider.

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01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:28,300
Yeah, I mean, I think we are absolutely prepared to partner.

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01:50:28,540 --> 01:50:32,980
We've been involving the reuse and repair organizations over the last many three years

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01:50:32,980 --> 01:50:34,300
and very much on this plan.

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01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:39,580
And we absolutely want to leverage what they're already doing and not duplicate it.

1324
01:50:39,700 --> 01:50:44,080
And so, but the depot concept is really like a one stop.

1325
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,600
It's a one stop place to come to bring a whole host of materials.

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01:50:48,060 --> 01:50:52,500
How those materials, reusable materials, repairable materials, we expect to be partnering with

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01:50:52,500 --> 01:50:57,920
habitat, rebuilding center, community warehouse to come and take the materials back to their

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01:50:58,480 --> 01:50:59,640
sites to potentially.

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01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:02,980
So, I mean, those are the details that need to be worked out, but that one way we could

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01:51:02,980 --> 01:51:03,240
do it.

1331
01:51:03,380 --> 01:51:08,860
So, we do not expect to, you know, we expect to leverage what's already going on in this

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01:51:08,860 --> 01:51:15,260
region around reuse and repair and facilitate more of it by working with them and also having

1333
01:51:15,260 --> 01:51:19,420
this warehouse that they really have asked for over and over again, which is a place to

1334
01:51:19,420 --> 01:51:26,020
store large items and large numbers of items that they can't store in their own spaces

1335
01:51:26,020 --> 01:51:30,300
right now, because if they get 100 mattresses donated, they just don't have the space.

1336
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:35,820
So it really is our intent at Metro as to work with the existing organizations.

1337
01:51:36,580 --> 01:51:36,960
Absolutely.

1338
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:37,280
Peter.

1339
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:39,340
Okay.

1340
01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:39,660
Thanks.

1341
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:44,200
I have one thing I forgot to share about multi-family services.

1342
01:51:45,140 --> 01:51:48,060
There's something I'm really excited about and I'm really excited to hear about the progress

1343
01:51:48,060 --> 01:51:54,660
you all have made. When I lived in an apartment here in downtown Beaverton with garbage rooms

1344
01:51:54,660 --> 01:52:01,140
on each floor, and there was so much, I would say, pretty quality waste that would be put in

1345
01:52:01,140 --> 01:52:05,800
there to be thrown away because people would be moving and not want to take it wherever they

1346
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:12,500
were going. And so some of us residents referred to the garbage room as the treasure room because

1347
01:52:12,500 --> 01:52:17,940
there was a lot of good stuff in there. And so I mentioned this for a couple of reasons. I'm curious

1348
01:52:17,940 --> 01:52:31,020
If there's an opportunity, I don't even answer now, but for the reuse model, if there's an opportunity for us to have collection sites that apartment complexes where in their garbage room, there's a reuse bin or reuse corner.

1349
01:52:31,940 --> 01:52:34,020
So it's just able to be part of the collection route.

1350
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:46,500
And then also for multi-family housing and apartments, if rates could be lower for those types of developments since people are more clustered together, it might be easier to serve

1351
01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:52,040
of 100 people who are in one building as opposed to 100 homes that are spaced more apart.

1352
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:57,940
So I'm just thinking about how rates are phased in there and how we can give people

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01:52:57,940 --> 01:52:59,920
better access to the reuse abilities.

1354
01:53:00,380 --> 01:53:00,560
Thanks.

1355
01:53:02,660 --> 01:53:03,440
Thanks, Councillor.

1356
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:09,500
And I was just checking with staff here but Metro does have grant programs for community

1357
01:53:09,500 --> 01:53:15,420
groups or housing developments, however, to have pay for the materials to host those kinds

1358
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:15,900
of things.

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01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:33,520
So, I mean, you know, I don't know how much, like, and annually is requested versus how much we award, but I know that we do fund some of those things and trying to put money into things like that. But yeah, I love that treasure room concept. So, thank you.

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01:53:34,020 --> 01:53:44,240
And I'll just add and Scott can probably speak to this more later day is work that we've done around bulky waste, which is what we refer to as large item furniture collection.

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01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:49,520
both that multi-family and single-family homes and we recently did a pilot project

1362
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:53,400
studying the collection of those materials to look at how that might inform

1363
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:59,060
programs at the local level. One of the the hard parts with the curbside

1364
01:53:59,060 --> 01:54:04,300
collection is they often get let let left out sorry it gets passed like a

1365
01:54:04,300 --> 01:54:08,520
certain time and I start to lose my vocabulary left out and implement weather and

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01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:12,980
so that the availability of being able to recover those for reuse the

1367
01:54:12,980 --> 01:54:18,980
clients but we have had events with reuse organizations as a part of that pilot study

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01:54:18,980 --> 01:54:25,120
and other events including grants that Councillor Gonzales mentioned in working with the

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01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:29,900
reuse organization. So they've been an incredible partner in developing this plan through many,

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01:54:29,900 --> 01:54:37,060
many workshops with them to get to what you see and will continue to be a vital partner as

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01:54:37,060 --> 01:54:38,000
as we move the hand forward.

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01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:39,300
I think there are more opportunities.

1373
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:42,200
Sorry, Louise.

1374
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:46,900
If I may add just a little bit of the third program

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01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:49,680
in the reuse and repair area is a reuse fund

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01:54:50,540 --> 01:54:54,980
that's on page 39 of the draft plan.

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01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,960
So that one, the intent is it indirectly tries to get

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:27,460
We've got a little bit of the non-facilities-based services that we've heard multiple times, similar comments. And so that program is intended to support the work that we use organizations do. And part of that is going to people's homes to do pickups of donated items. And one of the reasons why they don't do that more frequently is because of costs.

1379
01:55:27,460 --> 01:55:35,380
So that's why this, the program that is proposed on page 39 is proposed to allocate funding

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01:55:35,380 --> 01:55:41,480
to these organizations and businesses that are providing the most benefit to the region.

1381
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:43,200
Yeah, thanks, Louise.

1382
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:51,420
And just like going through page 39, like you mentioned, this work is so intense and there's

1383
01:55:51,420 --> 01:55:55,260
so many layers to it, and as a council, we set a really high bar for our staff.

1384
01:55:55,260 --> 01:55:59,280
It's like, why are you doing this, what's the data, what are the metrics for it?

1385
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:06,300
So even looking through it, we see estimated annual cost, how many jobs do you think it's

1386
01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:11,040
going to create, and how many greenhouse gas emissions per cubic ton were anticipating

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01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,700
to divert?

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01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:17,260
I mean, that's just want to give credit, again, to myself, I think they're amazing, for

1389
01:56:17,780 --> 01:56:22,920
the level of analysis that we've done to understand, not just we want to help the climate, but

1390
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:24,820
to try and quantify it to the best for our ability.

1391
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:29,000
So, want to highlight that and celebrate the technical research on that.

1392
01:56:29,980 --> 01:56:31,860
If I can tack on really quick.

1393
01:56:32,300 --> 01:56:33,240
You just got me so excited.

1394
01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:36,100
I don't know if we've ever done this with NACs.

1395
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,880
Like, if we did a NAC reuse and rep,

1396
01:56:39,020 --> 01:56:40,800
I don't know if this is like super out there.

1397
01:56:40,900 --> 01:56:42,740
I was just thinking of what Councillor Teeter was saying,

1398
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,020
right, where like, you have these apartments and so,

1399
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:48,960
like, could a NAC project be that they do something like this

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01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,660
if they wanted in the NAC, and then we worked with Metro to support that.

1401
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,760
So I just wanted to plug that out there because all you have a response please.

1402
01:56:57,780 --> 01:56:59,620
We have, we share that interest.

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01:57:00,460 --> 01:57:06,420
One of our staff has put in a grant request to the EQ to do some reuse work over the next

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01:57:06,420 --> 01:57:11,200
two years, and we'll find out in December or January if we get that grant, but we definitely

1405
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,460
want to work on that, and if we don't get the grant, we'll try some other options.

1406
01:57:15,300 --> 01:57:15,360
Yeah.

1407
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:24,920
I mean the other thing to know is speaking to Councillor Gonzales earlier comments just around

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01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:29,580
the ethos in our region we have been an innovator we're leading in this country much around

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01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:33,680
our recycling rates as well as producer responsibility laws that we have.

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01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:39,120
There is a lot of grant funding currently available both at the state and federal level to help

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:44,060
subsidize this work and support this work but what you have to have to apply those grants

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01:57:44,060 --> 01:57:51,000
is a plan. And this is going to help us get there. The federal budget note that Councillor

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:55,720
Gonzales mentioned will help subsidize the cost of that investment and Metro Central in

1414
01:57:55,720 --> 01:58:00,840
part of its plan implementation is seeking those large grants to help offset the cost.

1415
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:06,000
And because we believe this plan to be very innovative, we think it increases our chances

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01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:11,740
because we focused a lot on those areas where there are high climate impacts. So that's

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01:58:11,740 --> 01:58:16,400
that we mentioned in the financing chapter is that none of the cost analysis that we did

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01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:22,280
include grants, but we're actively pursuing those and will be in a better space once we have

1419
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:28,820
a more detailed plan. Okay, and for context, NACs are our neighborhood association committees.

1420
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:33,160
So I live in, you're like, what did she talk about? So I live in like five oaks triple creek and

1421
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:39,360
that's my NAC and then Councillor Dugger is central. So we each have this NAC and then they're their own

1422
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:43,700
group of people and neighborhoods like a CPO at the county level, but they've organized

1423
01:58:43,700 --> 01:58:49,880
events like on sustainability, on emergency preparedness, so just floating it out there

1424
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:50,080
into the inside.

1425
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:53,820
And the last thing we did touch on this, but you all have the hard copy that I think is

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01:58:53,820 --> 01:58:58,860
important to note that has come up in some of our other local briefings, is the conceptual

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01:58:58,860 --> 01:59:02,840
implementation schedule that is on page 59 of the plan.

1428
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:08,760
And it has, again, this is the concept level, it has the general phasing of how the plan

1429
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:15,760
would unfold. And these are the different depots. What is in there now is proposing Cornelius and

1430
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:20,720
Southeast first because we own that property. But it doesn't mean if there was interest by cities

1431
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:27,980
to have depots sooner that that would be very important feedback for our council to hear. And so that

1432
01:59:27,980 --> 01:59:34,920
is something that we're really looking for input on what in this plan do you support? What are areas

1433
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:41,640
that you do not support. That's super helpful for us and the feedback that you share with us today will be bringing back to our council.

1434
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:48,380
But we've also invited city councils to provide letters to our council that we can share with them or to provide testimony.

1435
01:59:50,860 --> 01:59:57,280
But we will have a work session before to share on the fact that we've heard with council to get next direction on access.

1436
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,960
This is a really important chart, so...

1437
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:30,320
Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Thanks for coming in here tonight. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The final item on the agenda is council new business. Does anyone have anything they wish to share? Yes, the council are part of my break. Thank you. I wanted to bring up a potential agenda item for y'all's consideration. And that's about the recent issue with our water.

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02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:46,540
I know we've been kind of hearing updates from staff but also from constituents and so I was wondering if there's interest in maybe a potential future conversation, maybe work session about what happened to understand more of issue, how folks are impacted things like that.

1439
02:00:47,700 --> 02:00:48,620
That's my request.

1440
02:00:55,910 --> 02:01:00,030
I'd be supportive. I'd be curious if it needs to be a work session or if a presentation

1441
02:01:00,030 --> 02:01:05,030
is fine. There are a few of a preference. I do have a preference for the work session.

1442
02:01:07,390 --> 02:01:12,790
My follow-up is I thought we had enough information, so maybe I'm missing something before we—that's

1443
02:01:12,790 --> 02:01:16,650
why I haven't put my thumb up, because I felt informed via emails, but if I'm missing

1444
02:01:16,650 --> 02:01:21,190
something, please. I think—well, I can share just maybe some of my questions, too, about

1445
02:01:21,190 --> 02:01:21,650
about like why?

1446
02:01:22,370 --> 02:01:25,110
I think I'm a little bit worried about just understanding

1447
02:01:25,110 --> 02:01:29,290
like from the mis, it's not a mis-measurement, right?

1448
02:01:29,390 --> 02:01:31,590
It's a recalibration maybe of the measurement

1449
02:01:31,590 --> 02:01:34,250
and just understanding like is this a one-time correction?

1450
02:01:34,510 --> 02:01:35,710
Is this an ongoing issue?

1451
02:01:36,310 --> 02:01:38,390
Do we need to be doing outreach to customers

1452
02:01:38,390 --> 02:01:41,170
that were impacted or just like really understanding

1453
02:01:41,750 --> 02:01:44,250
how our constituents have been impacted by it

1454
02:01:44,250 --> 02:01:46,950
and how can we avoid something like this going forward?

1455
02:01:47,050 --> 02:01:48,390
And then for those that were impacted

1456
02:01:48,390 --> 02:01:49,770
maybe at a really large level,

1457
02:01:49,770 --> 02:02:05,050
Is there a follow-up conversation council needs to have around when the city is the bill or should we be considering things like notifying if like before we take someone's money and worried about like folks that are paying like with like ACH or like you know autopay.

1458
02:02:05,290 --> 02:02:10,550
I'm concerned if they didn't catch it like did we just put someone in dire straits because we didn't know it was coming.

1459
02:02:10,910 --> 02:02:17,690
You know, so it's more of like things like that. I'm just trying to understand is there something more that we should be thinking about?

1460
02:02:17,690 --> 02:02:19,470
or is it done and dusted?

1461
02:02:19,730 --> 02:02:23,130
And it would be presentation style, and I'm more good,

1462
02:02:23,210 --> 02:02:25,030
but I think that I would like to know more

1463
02:02:25,030 --> 02:02:27,230
than what we're getting in email at this point.

1464
02:02:28,630 --> 02:02:30,470
I would, I mean, from my perspective,

1465
02:02:30,670 --> 02:02:31,710
I would like a work session

1466
02:02:31,710 --> 02:02:33,430
because I would like to weigh it on the policy

1467
02:02:33,430 --> 02:02:37,810
on when communication goes out and when we put it

1468
02:02:37,810 --> 02:02:40,110
into place stops and things like that too,

1469
02:02:40,430 --> 02:02:41,850
specifically policy direction

1470
02:02:41,850 --> 02:02:43,750
because it's not just for water,

1471
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:45,070
but for any of our utilities.

1472
02:02:45,070 --> 02:02:48,610
like if it's anything that we're building for and there's some kind of

1473
02:02:48,610 --> 02:02:52,750
billing error right now it's kind of left on the operational side and I think

1474
02:02:52,750 --> 02:02:57,750
that's mostly served as well but it always does until it doesn't right and I

1475
02:02:57,750 --> 02:03:00,890
just that's that's what I would be interested in a work session for is kind of

1476
02:03:00,890 --> 02:03:05,530
weighing in on what are the options from a policy perspective I would like to

1477
02:03:05,530 --> 02:03:13,270
hear from Dan was the best way forward what would your recommendation yeah I

1478
02:03:13,270 --> 02:03:19,630
appreciate that I think a work session probably given the presentation we had earlier

1479
02:03:19,630 --> 02:03:25,750
and the desire for questions is definitely preferable. You know, I just if I can maybe

1480
02:03:25,750 --> 02:03:30,550
provide a little bit of overview, especially if I hope there are people watching that also

1481
02:03:30,550 --> 02:03:34,530
you know what we said before on your networks and your ability to communicate information

1482
02:03:34,530 --> 02:03:41,110
to constituencies across the city just for some background for those who aren't aware.

1483
02:03:41,110 --> 02:03:46,710
where we took over the reads for utility billing for water meters.

1484
02:03:47,330 --> 02:03:53,170
We took that over from a third party in August, and so it's been a couple months.

1485
02:03:54,350 --> 02:03:58,710
Best laid plans, I think, to a certain degree of course, you take on a new service.

1486
02:03:58,710 --> 02:04:04,070
There's some bumps along the way, and we're discovering a number of different potential root

1487
02:04:04,070 --> 02:04:05,030
causes of some of those.

1488
02:04:05,190 --> 02:04:11,090
And I think, as Councillor Hartmeier-Preg mentioned, there's some certainty around some of

1489
02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:14,530
There's also a lot of other things that we're trying to calibrate and really understand

1490
02:04:14,530 --> 02:04:17,450
the breadth and scope of this.

1491
02:04:18,610 --> 02:04:24,890
And some of it is maybe around identifying the meters that exist and be able to read

1492
02:04:24,890 --> 02:04:29,910
them and accurately, you know, we bill for the actual use of water.

1493
02:04:30,530 --> 02:04:36,270
It's a consumable and that's typically what cities do, you know, and so if you can't read

1494
02:04:36,270 --> 02:04:38,610
the meter, it's really challenging to actually do that.

1495
02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:43,550
and so that's one of the many issues that we're facing and so I think some

1496
02:04:43,550 --> 02:04:48,230
additional time would be great to get some additional information and to

1497
02:04:48,230 --> 02:04:52,650
really track down some of the what's going on we just for your information as

1498
02:04:52,650 --> 02:04:58,810
well we have about 20,000 utility meters and so being able to read those we

1499
02:04:58,810 --> 02:04:59,770
rotate weekly.

1500
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:29,980
So, it's a lot to read, a lot of staff involved, and part of the reason we brought that back in house was to provide a courier avenue for public works to bring in some staff and to be able to train them and then hopefully move them up through the organization and actually save a little bit of money in the process on some of the way that that contract had been working before. So, it's a good thing with some problems and implementation, and we absolutely take it very seriously.

1501
02:05:29,980 --> 02:05:34,420
that the bills are accurate, it is, as you've stated,

1502
02:05:35,300 --> 02:05:38,160
this is the city building, someone for a service

1503
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:39,500
and we wanna make sure we get it right.

1504
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:41,700
So I think we would welcome the opportunity

1505
02:05:41,700 --> 02:05:44,140
to talk a little bit more about how this has worked

1506
02:05:44,140 --> 02:05:47,460
and things that we've found and some lessons learned

1507
02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:49,340
and some opportunities along the way.

1508
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:51,180
So I do think that back and forth

1509
02:05:51,180 --> 02:05:53,420
would be helpful of the work session.

1510
02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:58,440
And if I can just for those who have auto pay

1511
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:00,840
and maybe for all of our customers,

1512
02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:03,380
if you haven't looked at your water bill, please do.

1513
02:06:04,180 --> 02:06:06,780
It's one of those things where if you've kind of done

1514
02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:08,840
the fix it and forget it and have it on auto pay

1515
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,900
and you have a surprise, you may be surprised

1516
02:06:11,900 --> 02:06:15,060
at how much your actual read is,

1517
02:06:15,220 --> 02:06:16,900
or we may have made an error,

1518
02:06:17,140 --> 02:06:18,880
and we would like you to reach out to us

1519
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,080
if you feel like it's too high.

1520
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,820
Keep in mind that we bill retroactively,

1521
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,280
so your consumption for the previous month

1522
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,920
and we've been in drier months,

1523
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,600
and so there's probably been a fair amount of landscape

1524
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:34,080
irrigation and other uses,

1525
02:06:34,340 --> 02:06:37,660
and so it's pretty variable and can be a higher use

1526
02:06:37,660 --> 02:06:38,680
than many people are used.

1527
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:41,740
So please call our utility billing staff.

1528
02:06:41,900 --> 02:06:44,040
We have resources to work with people.

1529
02:06:44,780 --> 02:06:48,040
We can community action for those who are in need

1530
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:49,320
of financial assistance.

1531
02:06:49,500 --> 02:06:51,880
We have the ability to work on payment plans.

1532
02:06:52,380 --> 02:06:55,540
We in extreme cases, especially when there's been

1533
02:06:55,540 --> 02:07:00,820
an error, you know, there's some extreme errors that have been made in kind of data entry

1534
02:07:02,020 --> 02:07:07,520
that we're able to work on some other options as well. So, I want to make sure that people

1535
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,360
are paying attention to this potential issue and how it might impact them and that they

1536
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:17,500
contact us for solutions and don't just kind of go what the lot. And so, it's a big deal that we

1537
02:07:17,500 --> 02:07:24,640
get it right. We're very committed to that and have the conversation. All right, let's have a work

1538
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:29,380
accession in the future. Just schedule them in. Any other?

1539
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:38,000
That's it? All right, that concludes our meeting tonight. Meeting adjourned.