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>> time is now 6:00 o'clock. We'll ahead and call this regular meeting at the bedford city council to order.

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it is tuesday, december 9, 2025. I would like to welcome everybody in the audience,

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and those who may be tuning in online. First things up, we're going to have an invocation led to us by council member donovan brandon,

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followed by the pledge of allegiance being led to us by mayor pro tem dawkins. I'd like to ask everyone to please stand.

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>> loving creator, source of wisdom across all generations and all nations.

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we thank you for the privilege and honor of collecting

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ourselves today as stewards of the city of bedford.

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bless every person in this room, those elected to lead and those who came to speak their truth.

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help us to hear their words with open hearts and open ears and to listen not to just their words,

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but their hopes found in these words. Grant all of us patience,

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even when our opinions vary, and a spirit of humility that seeks understanding over pride.

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may wisdom be found in each decision made here tonight,

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not just for what is easy or immediate, for what's best for our collective future.

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give this council the clarity to look beyond today and the courage to choose what's right for the public interest.

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let this meeting be a source not only for policy, but for realizing we are all neighbors.

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in this season of light, love, and good wishes, may we all be good neighbors. Amen.

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>> thank you, mayor pro tem dawkins.

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thank you, council member donovan brandon for that. Next up on agenda, council recognition.

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I'll give you city manager and your boy. >> thank you, mayor. Good evening, everyone.

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happy to start the recognition with brandy west. Brandy, if you could come up, and just say hi. Wonderful. Thanks.

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>> hi council. >> I want to go ahead and start by recognizing brandy.

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brandy is our special projects and risk manager. We're celebrating 10 years with brandy tonight,

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which is very exciting. So let me go ahead and just read.

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I don't want to miss anything. Brandy has been busy over the last decade, so I want to make sure I cover things.

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tonight, we are honored to recognize someone who has devoted a decade of exceptional service to the city of bedford, brandy west.

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brandy joined us back in 2015, coming from the museum world,

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and stepping into the role of grants administrator. From day one, she took on the challenge of

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seeking funding opportunities for every department, projects of every type,

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equipment of every kind, and ideas of every scope. She excelled forming strong and lasting partnerships across the organization.

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her work has saved the city significant dollars over the years, and she has become the trusted go two for all things grants related.

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back in 2022 and 2020, then, brandy was named assistant to the city manager, which, as we all know,

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means everything you were already doing, plus just about everything else that falls into the category,

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other duties as assigned. In that capacity, she supported a wide array of special projects,

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including stepping in to serve as a project manager for generations park,

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and helping guide our efforts to explore a performing art center. She also served as a liaison to

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many outside organization representing bedford with skill, grace, and professionalism.

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brandy is not just an employee of the city, she is also a resident, deeply invested in the community she serves.

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over her 10 years, she has willingly stepped into staffing gaps, taken on countless temporary roles,

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consistently shown a determination that says, if I don't know it, I'll figure it out and she always does.

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she has also lent her talents as an in house facilitator, helping our teams across the organization collaborate and succeed.

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about five years ago, under the leadership of our former city manager, brandy was tasked with creating a new program

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to educate our residents about how their city operates. She took the idea and built what is now one of our most popular and in demand programs,

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bedford university, which is actually about to begin its fourth year.

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>> fourth year. >> fourth year. Most recently, brandy once again stepped up when the city needed her

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and was named our special projects and risk manager, taking on an entirely new role and spearheading

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bedford's first coordinated and formal risk management efforts. She has embraced this challenge with her trademark,

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positivity, curiosity, and eagerness to learn. Brandy's dedication is powered by the love and support of her family.

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her husband, reed and her daughter, sarah and beth anne, of whom she is extraordinarily proud mom.

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brandy, on behalf of the city council, the city, our staff, myself, everyone you work with.

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we personally thank you for your commitment, your flexibility, and your positivity, and your unwavering service to the city.

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thank you. >> thank you

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[applause] >> thank you so much [inaudible]

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>> and next up,

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we have a police chief bobby le pena.

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>> good evening, mayor and counsel. Thank you for having us here tonight. I'd like to introduce officer han with the bedford police department.

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he's been with us for five years. Officer han began his career with us in 2020,

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and in 2025, he became an investigator in our criminal investigations division.

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he serves as a drone operator. He's on our bicycle team. He has his intermediate tico,

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license, and he's a taser instructor. He just in may, completed a master's in criminal justice forensic psychology.

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don't talk to him very much. He'll analyze you.

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he does a fantastic job as an investigator. Really, really pleasure to have him in the division.

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he sees what's coming in his cases, and he prepares and takes the right course of action on, as he's in there.

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he's hit the ground running, taking over several of our persons crimes and investigating those and

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the empathy and care that he shows to the victims and taking care of them while they're going through some of the worst times in their lives.

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it truly shows and several compliments come in on han and his conduct and taking care of them and watching out for their best interest.

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so officer han's been with us for five years.

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I have officer ledesma.

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officer ledesma has been with the department for 10 years. He began his employment in the jail detention center as a detention officer in 2015,

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and in 2020 he became a police officer. Forgot to mention this second ago. Both of these individuals became police officers in one of

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the toughest times to become police officers in 2020. I don't want to talk about where we're going through, but everybody knows.

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it was a hard time and these guys have excelled and really shown their true worth after coming out of that.

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he serves as a drone operator and a firearms instructor, which is one of the most dangerous jobs to have being on the gun range all the time.

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it's fun, but it can also be testing at times. He earned a meritorious service award in 2023.

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oscar is always having a good time at work, and probably the most important thing to me is he doesn't

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let anybody not be involved, even the police chief. If I walk into the room, he'll include me in the conversation,

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and it's always going to be a good time. He's a hard worker. He's always trying to improve the programs

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that he's taken under his wing and that he's working in, and he never gives half.

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he always gives full, and I appreciate it so much. Oscar ledesma, 10 years.

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she is not with us. She has a sick kid, and I believe that she's gotten the bug also,

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so I told her, please, do not. She's also been on shift all day today, too. But it's officer tara noble service

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of 20 years with the police department, beginning in 2005. Great officer. Very solid experience and always gonna do the right thing.

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officer noble has 20 years with us. She could not be with us. Thank you.

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>> [applause] next up, we have public comments. In a few people that signed up for public comments,

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just as four warning on this, council recently passed new changes for public comments,

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only allowing for three minutes to speak on such items.

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you'll get those three minutes. I think there will be a time at the 30 second marked to give you an idea to wrap things up.

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I would like to call to the podium susan valiant.

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>> yes. My name is susan valiant. I am running to be your state representative for house district 94.

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just wanted to come introduce myself to you. One of the things that I'm running on is to restore local control.

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I'm not sure if you'll aware, they actually passed a bill this session, the 840 to take the planning and zoning away from our city councils.

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of course, it's affecting only populations that are 150,000 or greater right now.

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but they're coming after at the local control,

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and that's one of the reasons that I'm running is because I want to stop that because the best government is the government that's in the local areas with the people.

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also, running on eliminating property taxes, as well,

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we had a property owners paid $81 billion

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this session and there's $90 billion worth of waste.

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I think that we will be able to eliminate property taxes.

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I would really like to get to meet any you all on a personal note at any time.

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my website is valiantforhd94.com.

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I'm just happy to be running and would like to represent you to you and I hope I get your vote. Thank you.

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>> thank you so much.

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next up to the podium, john wilson.

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>> mayor, councilman, council ladies. Thank you for having me. I'm john wilson.

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I'm the business director over at new beginnings church, and tonight, you will hear from a development that's being proposed on 2050 feign parkway,

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12 years ago, I bought that property for the church, along with 2000 fin parkway.

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for 12 years, we've owned it with the intention of possibly developing or putting another sanctuary.

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well, just a year ago or less than a year ago, our pastor now is 75-years-old.

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he has been one of those who have been a buy and hold forever.

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just recently, I approached him and said,

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our pastor at 75-years-old, we're not going to build another sanctuary.

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we've got plenty of space for what we have now.

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he says, well, if you find the right person, they'll find the right people to bring something that

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will help the community and be a blessing to others,

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then I will consider, and I will strongly consider, and you can move forward.

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our church is a community church. We have held training sessions for the swat team,

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the police department here bedford, along with the fire department, held cookouts for the fire department,

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and do many other outreaches for the community. We don't need to sell the property. We are not in debt.

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we simply want something that will benefit everyone and benefit the community,

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benefit the city, as you know we're a nonprofit.

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we'll also benefit more than just a few people in the area and jobs.

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I want to fully endorse on behalf of our pastor, who is not unable to come.

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his wife is also battling cancer, who is doing very well. But at their age, they have decided that they

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would like to move forward once you found the right person.

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the church believes that we have found the right partnership with archway properties that you'll hear from tonight,

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and we ask that you strongly consider their presentation and wanted you to know and hear from us as the church,

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and the thousands that watch us online that we are fully behind this. Thank you for your time.

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>> thank you very much. That concludes public comments.

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no one else has signed up. We'll move along in our agenda here. Next to is a presentation and discussion on renderings of

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the new central fire station by jim thorpe with william tharp architects.

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>> welcome back. Thank you. It's been a few minutes.

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>> yes. >> make sure we can see everything. Well, mayor, counsel,

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thank you for giving me a few minutes here just to update you on where we are on the design of the new central fire station.

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I've got some plans, I've got some renderings, and then at the end, I've got a 3d fly around of the project.

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we use 3d and fly around a lot during design, and people seem to understand those a lot more than plans and elevations.

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so what you're looking at here is the current site plan. As everyone knows, we're tearing down the jail portion of the law enforcement center,

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which is essentially just above where the new fire station is going.

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so you'll see all the new paving, circulation for the apparatus and everything there.

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so the new fire station in red got a shared fitness room that will be shared between the pd and the fire department,

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and some outdoor fitness areas there as well. This is ground floor plan.

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you probably need to look at the a little closer to tell what all those colors are essentially. The admin is on the right hand side.

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got an extra bunk room area on the back there where the stair is,

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got the apparatus bay in the center, and then training and

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the decon uniform storage and bunker gear and all of that on the left side there.

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the fitness shared fitness room is there in the green at the top fitness and rehab,

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separated by an outdoor fitness porch. All of the bunk rooms, the day room,

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kitchen, dining, everything is on level 2. Got a couple of outdoor patios.

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one of them is covered on the left off the kitchen. And then a secondary one there near the elevator.

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so we're going to start on the east side, the front door, work our way clockwise around the building.

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so this is the view of the east elevation, that faces the existing parking and the pd.

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we're starting to look at lighting now, so I've got some dusk nighttime shots.

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again, we use these as we design just to see how things are working,

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we plug in the actual light fixtures, and so we can see where that's going.

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same shot, just a dusk. Here's the apparatus bay side facing south towards el don dodson.

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other shot, again, studium light. You can start to see the covered patio on the left in the upper left there.

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that's off the dining and kitchen area. This is on the west side.

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this is the training room side, so that has its own entrance so that

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all the other stations who come to train can park here and not have to go through the main station,

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have our own entrance on this side. Again, patio, upper left corner,

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there open to the south screen to the west just to keep the sun off in the evenings.

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here's another shot kind of in the evening. This is the north side,

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so this is where the apparatus will come back around the back and into the abs bay.

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you start to see the fitness room on the left there. Again, a night shot.

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the big window there is the day room leading to the kitchen and dining room area.

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the watch room is also there, and then the rest of those windows are the bunk rooms and the bathrooms.

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level 2. A little bit closer up shots. You can see that trucks pull in under the level 2 and into the abs bay.

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other shot, again, studying the light, just looking at it at night.

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and then back around to the front door, just a little bit closer up, so you can start to see where starting to look

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at the exterior materials that finishes textures on brick,

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colors on the panels, things like that. So just give you a little bit closer up view of what

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the front door will look like. Then again at night.

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if I click this, is it going to jump to the. Now again, we'll start on the east side.

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we're going to go clockwise around the building, just an animation. Just give you a little more context around the building.

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part of this project as well as to where we're tearing down the jail. We're having to put up new facades,

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where the old building was. We're also addressing the new entrance to the pd,

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and then around the corner. Again, where we're tearing down the old building, we've got a little bit of work there to do to complete the building,

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where we've torn it down. So again, starting here,

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pd on the right, you start to see the entrance. We're pulling materials from the pd onto the fire station.

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we're also pulling some new materials over to the pd to try to tie them together.

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so again, around the west side here, that's that entrance into the training room.

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coming around the back, and you see the fitness room there on the left,

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and it opens onto an artificial fitness area outside.

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I'm pulling the apparatus underneath level two to get into the abs bay.

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bunk room restroom windows, got a balcony on that end,

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just a little place to step out at the end of the hallway there. And then of up to the front door.

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we're also working on all the interiors. We've got some walkthroughs on it as well.

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it's just not quite ready to present those. That's where we are right now, we just wrapped up 50% design development.

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again, we've been working really closely with chief walker and his crew, the staff, and we're in a good spot for dds right now.

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we'll have 100% dds done middle of january,

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which will be our next cost estimate as well. And then right now, if we stay on schedule,

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we're scheduled to have everything done by, I believe it's may 8.

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>> all right. First off, jim, thanks. Thanks for that presentation.

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obviously, it's very very beautiful design, looking at it.

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just for the record and for the audience.

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what is our current square footage of our current central fire station? >> we were in it today we're at 24,992 square feet.

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we were told to keep it under 25. >> that's the new. >> this is a new one? So you said 249?

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>> 24,992. We ran it today. >> what is our current fire station?

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>> we're just a little under 14,000 square feet. >> so quite a bit more space to accommodate more.

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so, jim, what more is being added as opposed to our old fire station in this new one?

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>> that's a good question. I don't know if I've looked at it that closely. I think we've got a lot more admin area. It has been expanded.

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the apps bay, I believe, is larger. We've got a training room here that I'm not sure how it compares to the training room.

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I've only been back there one time in the existing one. We've got a big fitness room,

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rehab room on the back. I think we have more bunk rooms and larger kitchen,

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larger dining area, got the outdoor patios, more amenities than the existing.

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>> and you said you've done cost analysis already? >> we had one done back in july,

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I believe it was july 14. That's when we were at that schematic design level.

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so that was very early. >> and what did we come back with that?

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>> right at 17 million. I think? >> I think 16.5.

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>> something like that. Just under 17. >> and how much have we allocated for this project?

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>> I'm looking at for 15 plus, about 1:16. About 16. Yeah.

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>> when I look at this building, just going back to it,

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like the front facade there. I'm seeing a lot of different materials.

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I know one of the things that we wanted to do was make sure that this kind of blended into the law enforcement center.

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what brick am I looking at that would match the law enforcement center?

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>> the law enforcement center has two materials on it. There's a reddish brick?

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there's also a split face block. That's in the bands on there. So we're pulling the brick and the block.

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we're using the block and our landscape walls. Again, this is not the final landscape designed by any stretch.

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this is just us throwing some stuff to start the conversation with our landscape folks.

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we're going to use the block for the walls, and the brick that you see on the fire department is the brick from the pd.

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so we're pulling that material onto the building. Then there's actually just there's three materials on the building.

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so the panels that look like wood, and then on the apps bay, and then the red, that's a product called nishi ha.

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it's what we used on the blue and gray panels on the rec center. Same product.

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it's just whatever color you want. You get it, it looks like wood. And then we've got two colors of brick, essentially.

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and then we've got some castone bands that again, tie back to the pd.

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it has castone on it as well. So we're pulling material to the fire station.

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we're also taking the nishi ha panels, and we're pulling at the other direction for these new entry elements,

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where we're taking down the old walls. We've got some joints, some doors and things that we're basically enhancing.

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we're using that material back on the pd. So when you're standing there, the materials are they're talking to each other back and forth on the two buildings.

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>> so the brick has two different materials?

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>> just two different doors. >> just different colors. >> you've got the light brick that you see there that's kind of the field, and then you've got the accent band around there that is the brick from the peter.

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>> and the gray up there? >> that's the nishi ha panel. That's the fiber cement panel.

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>> got you. And then the wood with that one. >> that's the fiber cement panel as is the red panel there at the front door.

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it's one product, different. >> different variations of the one product.

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>> exactly. >> I think functionally, it obviously.

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I think it was well thought out the layout there. I think from a functional standpoint,

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looking at this fire station, I think it fits the bill. I do have concern of it's a very modern looking building for what it is.

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for good, bad or otherwise, it's a very modern building compared to the law enforcement center.

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do you have concerns with that tying in? >> I don't think so. We talked about that in the beginning,

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and everybody seemed to be leaning more towards a modern building and design.

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the law enforcement center is predominantly flat roof like this.

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it does have the two big angled roof elements. One of them we're removing,

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and the other one we're covering up. We're hiding. So I think as far as volumes and shapes,

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I think they're compatible with each other. And other details, we're pulling window mullions,

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the way the window mullions work on the pd, we're pulling those across. I mean, we're taking more elements,

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trying to mix them together as best we can.

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>> you're going to continue having these conversations obviously with staff. And so are we

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concerned that we're already at this point over our budget and allocated amount?

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>> yes and no. I think yes, always, because costs never tend to go down.

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they only go up. I believe that when we did run that estimate in july,

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though, it was still under a little bit of a larger building at that time. >> actually, it was right about the same.

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[overlapping] I understand that in that cost estimate, there was a contingency in there,

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an estimating contingency that, I think, was almost $1,500,000. That's trying to anticipate where costs are going.

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I think they had figured in about half a percent a month. That's probably about right.

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yeah. Historically, what construction has been going up? There was also there was another just general construction contingency in there.

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again, at that level, we have to build in sort of, for lack of a better word,

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fluff into the numbers because we just don't have the details to really start putting numbers to.

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the next estimate will be based on essentially a pretty thorough set of documents that's going to have all the mep,

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plumbing, hvac, all that. They'll be able to sharpen the pencil up a little bit rather than trying to guess.

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>> got you. >> what things are going to cost? >> and then we can make adjustments at that point?

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>> sure. >> what's the time frame on that? >> that set is due, let's say january,

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and that's when we'll get the next estimate.

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a couple of weeks. Okay. To get it done. >> to get it done and fine-tune it.

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>> fine-tune it, see if there's places we can cut. I will tell you. If you look at the plans, I don't think there's any wasted space in this plan at all.

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again, in working with the chief and the crew, it's everything they need.

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I don't think there's anything wasted. There's certainly not any extra space anywhere.

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I mean, we could squeeze it a little bit, potentially, but I mean,

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we've been squeezing it. That magic number was 25,000 feet. We've been squeezing as we go to try to keep it under that number.

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>> got you. And that cost estimate, that included the demolition of the jail?

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>> it did. >> counsel, additional questions. Counsel galgiad.

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>> thank you, mary cogan. So mr. Thorpe, didn't you design the fire stations that the city

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[inaudible] and so just as a little background,

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all of counsel is invited to take a tour of ulus stations.

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and from what I saw, it is incredible. They not only have a fire pole, which is amazing,

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but they have individual bunk rooms for all the firefighters.

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the rest areas are fantastic. The workout areas are amazing.

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leaps and bounds from anything we currently have. I love the design.

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I mean, it's sort of the current police department building sort

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of modern-ish because it's got squareness to it. I think it's going to be great.

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are we going to get fancy doors like ulus? >> four of them. That's another one of our costs.

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>> they come from sweden. [overlapping] andrea said.

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I'll ask karen right now, no fancy doors from sweden. We're going to ikea, folks.

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the way it's put together and the way it functions is light years ahead of what we currently have.

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I am very, very excited to see this project moving forward.

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so thank you again for your hard work. All you've done for the community in the mid cities.

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>> thank you. >. Absolutely. Jim's been part of a lot of our new construction over

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the last few years and has a hand in all of it. Counsel don brandon.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. Look at me, I got it to go.

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thank you for your work. First, I have questions. First, what's dds? I don't know.

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>> design development. We have phases that we go through. Schematic design is the very early sketches and concepts,

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and laying out the plan functionally spaces,

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then we move into design development. We take those schematic design drawings and develop the design.

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then at that point, we start talking to our consultants about hvac and plumbing and utilities,

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and we start talking to the civil folks about how we're doing the paving. Then, once that's all set at the end of dds,

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for the most part, we're done with design. Then we move into what's called construction documents.

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that is the details, the specifications, putting everything together that the contractor or

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the cmar is going to use to get their bid numbers off of.

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we're at 50% dds, we have to get into 100% cds.

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>> the colors and the materials were chosen

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to tie to the police department building, correct?

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>> correct. The bid brick that you see there, yes. We wanted the fire station to be a little bit different.

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didn't want to cover it in the same brick. We didn't want them to look identical, so we picked the lighter color brick for the field.

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the accent brick is tied into the pd. Then, the other materials that we're using here,

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we're actually going to use them on the new parts of the pd to again tie the two buildings together.

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the challenge was is make them talk to each other and not look like they're two separate entities.

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>> I can appreciate that. >> we're swapping materials back and forth. >> I was going to ask you why two colors are brick because my house,

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I'd want the same brick everywhere. It's to make it different from the police department.

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>> it's to give the fire station its own identity, but we're also paying respect to

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the pd by using some of the brick off of that building onto the new building.

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on the campus, when you walk up, it's not too drastically different buildings. There's a dialogue going on between the two,

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that that brick is on this building, the wood panels are now on the pd,

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so it's making it a more cohesive campus out of the two buildings, correct.

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>> is there a need either from artistically or functionally for so many different materials?

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>> I don't know about a need other than it looked good, I'm not sure.

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as part of our design, we were trying to distinguish the pieces of the building.

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the app's bay has its own material. Then all of the admin,

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the level 1 area has its identity, and then the sleeping quarters, everything upstairs,

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the private side has its own material up top, just distinguishes the pieces of the building,

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sits over there and doesn't break up visually,

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I guess. That's some interest. >> that brings me to another question. Is that why there are so many?

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I don't know the terms. There are different corners.

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is it a cantilever? Is that what you do? >> we do have a cantilever on it, yes.

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that's on the east end. >> is that why you don't just have a brick,

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a big block out there? >> visual interest, to try to do

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a building that would just be one big mass up there of one material. >> does that add to the cost to have all that?

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>> no. >> no more costs involved with more corners?

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but I think we've controlled it pretty well to just not have big, giant blank walls.

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we're just breaking it up three-dimensionally.

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>> I think that's all my questions. Thank you. I just want to go on record for you to know I'm a traditionalist.

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can you tell? But thank you for your work.

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>> councilor steves. >> thank you, mayor. Jim, I got a question.

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the bunk rooms they're individual. Are they built for current staffing,

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or is there allowance for future staffing? I counted about 11 of them. >> I think we have the one extra one downstairs,

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that's the, call it, emergency bunk, if something happened, they need to bring in extra staff.

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I think we're currently [overlapping] >> current. There's room for one. We've got one.

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>> there's room for one more person. >> right. >> thank you.

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>> thank you. Councilor farco.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. That concerns me because we're building

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a bigger fire station and more apparatuses.

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eventually, we're probably going to need more fire staff.

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is it expandable for extra bunk rooms?

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I know, is it one extra to current levels because I thought

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we were a little understaffed in the fire department position. >> based on whatever our full staffing would be,

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we're close, so we do have one extra on that. Then, again, this was designed with

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fire input as far as anticipated needs going forward and things like that.

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I don't know if tino is here to maybe comment on that by any chance.

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thank you, but where we've landed is with input from fire staff as far as the capacity.

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>> we do have a set staff that we have each ship, correct?

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what we're looking at is future,

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possibly, maybe adding a couple more personnel,

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and then making arrangements. We're also thinking further down the line with station 3, and that building,

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and possibly adding to that one as well for more personnel and apparatus.

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>> because it's easier to add now than it is to rebuild later.

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>> well, you could, but if we're trying to watch our budget and make things a little bit smaller,

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and that's what we're trying to do. >> then my last thing is, bill,

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on the west side, you showed an open area, no gate.

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is there going to be a gate there? Because right now, it's secured. >> no, there is a gate. [overlapping] it just may not have shown up in there.

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let's see if it'll. It's just out of frame there.

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>> can you go to the site plan, the very first one? >> I point at it if I could.

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>> one more back, keep going. >> there you go. Bottom left corner there?

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>> yeah. >> that's the secured gate. There's a fence from that corner all the way around the property.

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then there will be a separation between the public parking lot to be able to get back to the back.

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again, that's part of the landscape design, is how do we incorporate that existing courtyard at the pd,

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and the new green space there, and how do we control access back to that point?

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we haven't quite worked that out yet, but it will all be secured behind gates.

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>> thank you. It looks good. >> thank you. >> councilor sabol.

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>> too fast. Hey, jim, if fire trucks get a little bigger,

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and you've got these bays that have the [overlapping] >> I hope not [laughter].

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>> I know, but they've gotten bigger since I've been on the council.

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with those impediments that go into the actual fire station,

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would that be a problem as far as pulling in and pulling out, and would newbies have trouble backing in, backing out?

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>> no, currently, we have a ladder truck. It's a pretty good size, and we're able to maneuver with that.

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a problem that we may have in the future, but we've also thought about this,

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is creating what we call an apparatus barn separately,

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where we can start housing reserve apparatus and other things that we

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need to put in place or put as a front line as soon as we need it.

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right now, we're stacked throughout all our stations.

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we're loaded, but we're working with city management. They're doing great to try to help us through what we're going through right now.

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but as far as the actual size of one, no, it's not going to cause a problem.

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it's just the amount of fire trucks that we have and what we need in reserve status to be able to store those.

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>> the property is not big enough to actually store additional equipment on that property.

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you'd have to have it off the property. >> yes, that's what we're facing.

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>> what's the advantage to having the divisions between each of the entrances as opposed

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to just having an open way to back those guys in?

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>> they don't back in. >> well, pull forward in. It would be tough for me to drive it in any case.

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but is there an advantage to having those balusters and stuff as they're coming?

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I'm seeing it in the floor plan right there. Is it appearance-wise?

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>> it's the structural columns that hold up level 2, where all the rooms are up above when you pull under.

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a typical door for the image is 14 feet wide. I can't imagine a fire truck getting much bigger ever.

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00:40:44,705 --> 00:40:47,750
>> not wide. >> yeah, not wide. We've accommodated it. We took the big ladder truck and made sure that you can make the turn,

394
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:55,340
and we've got about 50 feet that they can get lined up before they ever have to even go between those two.

395
00:40:58,850 --> 00:40:58,850
the support columns it's actually wider than the door, so they're not in line.

396
00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:07,145
you've got a couple of feet on either side when the truck is coming up. If they go through a 14-foot door,

397
00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:12,110
I think we're 16 feet center to center on the structure, so there's a little bit of room there,

398
00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:16,220
but you should be able to get that truck. Essentially, in the two middle bays, where we've talked about,

399
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:19,670
they're going to park it to be able to line that up and pull it in.

400
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:25,270
>> not too wide about the balcony on the front of the building.

401
00:41:29,555 --> 00:41:31,760
I don't know why that bothers me. I can't see a fireman going out there and standing around. I don't know.

402
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:36,770
it just seems fratty, like a frat house, where they go out.

403
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:43,250
I'm not really fond of that. I'd rather have that flat. You've got outdoor patios on that second floor, correct?

404
00:41:46,805 --> 00:41:50,660
>> well, right now, we do. That's probably some of the things that may be on the block when we start getting into the budget.

405
00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:57,650
>> your decon room, that is a decontamination room. >> yes, that's correct. >> that's where they unload,

406
00:41:59,030 --> 00:42:02,645
and they decontaminate their suits. >> yes, ma'am. >> but your laundry rooms, directly across.

407
00:42:05,285 --> 00:42:07,835
do you have a laundry room in the decon room? >> it should be closed off if we were looking at that correctly the other day.

408
00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:13,565
>> the decon room itself in the top corner has the extractor and everything for the gear.

409
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:22,910
the gear never leaves that upper left corner. Once it's clean, it goes into the gear storage locker.

410
00:42:25,970 --> 00:42:28,280
>> the other laundry room is just [overlapping] >> there's a small laundry room on the far right for the admin side in that bunk,

411
00:42:32,435 --> 00:42:36,230
and then there's a laundry room upstairs for all of the bunk area. We have two laundry rooms and then the decon room.

412
00:42:41,470 --> 00:42:44,825
>> jim, I assume this is for you. If this bid comes out to 18,

413
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,980
19 million, what are you thinking? Because we don't have that money.

414
00:42:51,725 --> 00:42:54,005
>> sure. Well, I'm hoping it doesn't. I'm hoping we know ahead of time before it actually hits the street.

415
00:42:57,395 --> 00:42:57,395
we're working on the cmar rfp now.

416
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,130
we'd certainly like to get them on board. Hopefully, before it hits the street,

417
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,035
we have a good feel for what it is. If it comes in over, again,

418
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,910
I don't think there's any real fluff in the building that you can say, well, we'll just get rid of.

419
00:43:16,115 --> 00:43:16,115
we're going to have to cut some spaces,

420
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:23,330
so much per square foot. >> it'd be more square footage,

421
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:29,105
so you'd have to make everything smaller. >> potentially, we can always look at some of the materials,

422
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:35,585
but it depends on how much we're having to cut. If we're having to cut millions of dollars,

423
00:43:38,165 --> 00:43:41,705
then it's typically you get into cutting square footages. >> do you feel pretty confident that it won't be any more than 16 points?

424
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,015
was it 16.5? >> do I have to answer that? [laughter] I'm hoping so.

425
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:52,130
again, it's been going up pretty steady, so I don't know.

426
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,890
the next cost estimate is really going to tell us, I think, where we are. With all the detail we've now got in here that they can put a price to,

427
00:44:05,615 --> 00:44:05,615
I think we'll know more after the dds to be able to know exactly where we are.

428
00:44:10,955 --> 00:44:13,570
>> thank you. >> not seeing any other questions.

429
00:44:15,935 --> 00:44:17,510
yeah, councilor steves. >> thank you, mayor, sir. We took

430
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:23,315
a tour of the [inaudible] fire department, fire station you had built. There was an area on the first floor where people,

431
00:44:27,035 --> 00:44:27,035
emergency situations, where they walked in into the firehouse.

432
00:44:31,535 --> 00:44:34,205
the ems had a little room set up. Is that on? We didn't put that in ours?

433
00:44:36,365 --> 00:44:38,060
>> no, we had it. The request was that we didn't need it.

434
00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:42,820
>> thank you. >> just to summarize, I think looking at the building itself, very gorgeous building.

435
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:51,845
I think we're all impressed by it and know that it is just miles ahead of where we're at today,

436
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:57,560
and being able to give our firefighters that extra space is much needed.

437
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:03,875
they're definitely going to need that, and putting it in that location is the best, too.

438
00:45:08,225 --> 00:45:11,825
as you mentioned, I think it's all going to come down to in january, how much the cost comes down,

439
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,460
and then we'll go from there. But I think at this point, looking at the building, looking at the materials, the design,

440
00:45:19,355 --> 00:45:22,640
very impressive, and really looking forward, fingers crossed, that we come in around that 16ml.

441
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:27,755
>> we will do our best to get it there. Like I said, I think there are some spaces we could carve out if we needed to.

442
00:45:32,590 --> 00:45:34,895
I think it's everything they need. Again, we worked very closely with them multiple times,

443
00:45:37,850 --> 00:45:40,160
multiple meetings, back and forth. I don't think there's anything there they don't need or are going to ask for.

444
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:47,120
>> got you. Thank you so much, jim, for your hard work. >> no, thank you.

445
00:45:51,130 --> 00:45:51,130
>> next up, we have to consider approval of items by consent.

446
00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:58,130
I'll give you city manager andrea roy. >> thank you, mayor. Good evening.

447
00:46:00,485 --> 00:46:02,990
item number 1, consider approval of the following city council minutes from november 18th,

448
00:46:05,525 --> 00:46:07,400
2025, regular meeting. Number 2, consider a resolution authorizing

449
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:09,950
the city manager or her designee to purchase the annual subscription for

450
00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:15,680
maintenance and support of the public safety record management software from

451
00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:18,350
central square technologies in an amount of $112,615.

452
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:25,690
>> essentially, in 2018, the city council approved a contract with tritech technologies,

453
00:46:28,855 --> 00:46:28,855
now known as centralsquare for public safety records management with

454
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,040
annual maintenance subscriptions purchased since the system went live in january of 2020.

455
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,620
this request will extend that addressing all maintenance and support systems, such as our dispatch systems,

456
00:46:43,285 --> 00:46:45,355
which are used by both fire and pd, including all necessary mapping and our records management system, which again,

457
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:49,240
includes all reports, calls for service and crime mapping subscriptions, etc.

458
00:46:53,935 --> 00:46:55,390
funding will be provided through the general fund police operational budget and the general fund fire operational budgets.

459
00:47:00,595 --> 00:47:04,270
number 3, consider a resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with southwest/medic built ambulance,

460
00:47:07,915 --> 00:47:09,955
llc, and kennedale, texas, for the purchase of one ambulance modular remount on

461
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:16,450
a 2025 ford f-550 chassis in the amount of $357,593 and 74 cents

462
00:47:20,545 --> 00:47:20,545
through a co-operative purchasing agreement with the houston galveston area council.

463
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,430
fire department is currently requesting approval to remount and modernize ambulance unit number 50,

464
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,590
extending its service life in a cost effective and timely manner compared to purchasing a new unit.

465
00:47:35,605 --> 00:47:37,555
partnering with southwest medic, an experienced approved vendor that has successfully completed,

466
00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:42,340
prior remounts will ensure the project meets all operational safety and procurement requirements.

467
00:47:45,850 --> 00:47:47,080
funding is available from the general fund fire department supplemental budget

468
00:47:49,885 --> 00:47:53,665
that was approved with this year's budget. I'm available for any questions. >> very good. Counsel,

469
00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:55,180
any questions on the consent agenda other than where our missing council member is?

470
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:07,060
>> motion to approve. >> motion to approve by councilman farco. [overlapping]

471
00:48:08,906 --> 00:48:12,040
>> we just pass. >> that's why we're all sitting up here. >> second. >> second by councilman sabol. Let's go vote.

472
00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:30,880
that passes unanimously, thank you, counsel. Thanks staff. Moving on to item number 4.

473
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:42,490
item 4, public hearing and consider an ordinance regarding an amendment to the bedford forum planned unit development,

474
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,550
and to amend the official zoning to remove the property from master highway corridor overlay to allow

475
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,290
for the construction of two office warehouse and buildings on the property legally described as bedford forum addition,

476
00:48:56,530 --> 00:48:58,780
block 3r lot 4r1, commonly known as 2050 farm parkway, pud 25-2.

477
00:49:03,595 --> 00:49:07,360
planning and zoning commission recommended approval by a vote of six to one. Give you development director wes morrison.

478
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,180
>> thank you, mr. I'm sorry. I thought I was in p&z for a second. [overlapping] >> thank you.

479
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:16,315
>> thank you, mayor. Council members. I'll get in the right meeting here in just a second.

480
00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:19,150
the request is to rezone or to amend the pud for bedford forum.

481
00:49:25,930 --> 00:49:25,930
bedford forum is one of our larger non residential puds in the city.

482
00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:31,630
the request is for two office warehouses to

483
00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:35,710
be constructed there on site on forum parkway and plaza drive.

484
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,440
the request also includes removing from the master highway corridor overlay.

485
00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:46,015
reason for that is the site way it's designed,

486
00:49:50,935 --> 00:49:53,950
they cannot meet the landscape buffer along forum parkway and so that's part of this request.

487
00:49:57,895 --> 00:49:59,950
jumping into the zoning map, you'll see that staying on the subject of the overlay real quick.

488
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:08,605
the way the overlay is designed is that normally this piece of property would not be in the overlay.

489
00:50:12,430 --> 00:50:12,430
the ordinance says that the overlay extends 200 feet from the state right of way.

490
00:50:19,105 --> 00:50:21,160
but this property right now, it's currently designed as one lot.

491
00:50:23,215 --> 00:50:26,635
if the development goes through and they subdivide, it would then be outside the overlay anyway.

492
00:50:29,185 --> 00:50:30,895
the definition of the overlay. That's one justification for the overlay removal.

493
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:38,350
jumping into future land use. The property is classified as employment focus development pattern.

494
00:50:43,795 --> 00:50:43,795
the applicant has provided a site plan that meets all of the points and employment focus.

495
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,820
it's a low density industrial development. It is an office warehouse. It's being proposed.

496
00:50:57,250 --> 00:50:59,320
it's under the two story, the maximum height being proposed is 42 feet.

497
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:06,850
it takes in consideration of the surrounding area as far as landscape buffers and whatnot.

498
00:51:11,370 --> 00:51:11,370
part of the amendment would be to adopt this site plan that you see before you tonight.

499
00:51:16,765 --> 00:51:19,165
it does include two different buildings. One being approximately 62,000 square feet in size,

500
00:51:23,890 --> 00:51:26,500
the other 141,000 square feet in size. They would be on two separate lots. They would be standalone.

501
00:51:29,470 --> 00:51:32,905
the proposed site meets all the parking requirements and landscaping requirements based on their development standards they've submitted.

502
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,250
as you know, any zoning changes, we do 200 foot notices

503
00:51:45,250 --> 00:51:45,250
within or we send notices to 200 people within 200 feet of the site.

504
00:51:49,945 --> 00:51:53,620
this particular one, we notified eight property owners. Within the 200 foot radius,

505
00:51:55,690 --> 00:51:59,215
we have received two notices of opposition, and then just outside the office building there to the south was not in the notification,

506
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:06,250
but they have also registered their opposition as well. That 4%, I want to point, that is inaccurate.

507
00:52:10,330 --> 00:52:13,705
that's actually up to 16, didn't include one of the other oppositions. They are at 16% opposition,

508
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:19,435
but it's not triggered any type of super majority under this request. Planning and zoning commission conducted their public hearing.

509
00:52:22,675 --> 00:52:22,675
they determined the use was permitted within the pud and the employment focus,

510
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,585
and the goals of the employment focus were being met with the conference plan with this submittals.

511
00:52:34,090 --> 00:52:37,195
therefore, p&z recommended approval of a six to one vote. Can you answer any questions you have?

512
00:52:38,770 --> 00:52:38,770
>> thank you, wes. Any concerns from p&z?

513
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:43,660
>> the main points of conversation at p&z were traffic and

514
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:48,640
were the landscape buffer along forum parkway.

515
00:52:55,710 --> 00:52:59,350
really and truly, we had as I told p&z, the real decision here is,

516
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,935
if you want that landscape buffer, what they were going to have to do is they were going to have to reduce their buildings.

517
00:53:07,525 --> 00:53:10,660
there's a water line that runs along forum parkway that prohibits them from planting trees and meeting that landscape buffer.

518
00:53:15,175 --> 00:53:17,440
that was one issue there. >> why this is coming in as a pud from [overlapping].

519
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,670
>> it was already a pud. >> but taking it out of the master highway corridor. >> that is one reason, yes.

520
00:53:25,825 --> 00:53:29,460
>> yes. >> or that is the reason. I'm sorry. Then traffic was a big discussion as well.

521
00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:37,420
there was questions about what the proposed truck routes would be, and the applicant was able to answer those.

522
00:53:40,060 --> 00:53:42,610
I will also say the applicants provided staff with proposed truck or traffic counts for this use.

523
00:53:45,925 --> 00:53:47,515
staff has reviewed those, and they saw that no additional improvements or anything like that would be required.

524
00:53:52,165 --> 00:53:54,550
>> looking at the site plan, there's no new entrances off a forum parkway being added, correct?

525
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,795
>> there is one entrance that's going to tie into the church. >> it's just a shared entrance with new church. [overlapping].

526
00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:07,540
>> correct. >> nothing new, per se. There's a lot of it on plaza. >> that is correct.

527
00:54:08,650 --> 00:54:08,650
>> that leads me to believe that a lot of the traffic is just going to be along

528
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:12,880
plaza drive and circling back out basically plaza drive,

529
00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:20,260
but I'll let the applicant speak. >> that is what the applicants share with us as well, but I know they're prepared to answer those questions.

530
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:23,980
>> got it. >> counsel, any questions for wes? Mayor pro dan dawkins.

531
00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:28,260
>> thanks, mr. Merit, so wes, if I understand it,

532
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,320
we're moving it from the master highway corridor definition,

533
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:40,570
but it will remain a pud. >> it would remain a puds. >> I saw the next steps is like replotting,

534
00:54:43,645 --> 00:54:46,615
and the infrastructure and building permits. With the replat that would come back to us.

535
00:54:49,825 --> 00:54:53,590
>> replat would not come to council. They would go to the plating zoning commission. >> planning zoning. But what we get so once it's replotted and a business wanted to come,

536
00:55:00,445 --> 00:55:03,085
would that come back because it's a pud? >> no. >> everything can be built by right.

537
00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:08,350
>> that's correct. >> thank you. >> any additional questions for wes?

538
00:55:11,935 --> 00:55:15,930
yes. Council donovan brandon. >> if we don't approve it, what happens?

539
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,305
>> the application doesn't move forward, and the land remains in its current state.

540
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:31,285
>> in its current state. >> which is vacant. >> we get no revenue.

541
00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:35,760
the city, right? >> true. It's a tax exempt property now, correct?

542
00:55:40,110 --> 00:55:43,760
>> correct. It is a religious institution that's tax exempt. If we approve it,

543
00:55:45,985 --> 00:55:48,520
we stand to get some revenue, correct? >> it would change ownerships.

544
00:55:50,260 --> 00:55:53,455
it would go on the tax roles as non tax exempt. >> do we have any estimation of.

545
00:55:56,125 --> 00:55:57,565
>> that's not something we look at. This is purely a land discussion.

546
00:56:00,205 --> 00:56:02,785
that's all we're looking at at this point. Tom is land use compatibility. Staff hasn't done any type of analysis on tax revenue at this point.

547
00:56:08,050 --> 00:56:11,095
>> then I have all these papers. >> I'm sorry. Thank you for this,

548
00:56:12,805 --> 00:56:15,595
I totally forgot. My bad. I put as I mentioned,

549
00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:20,245
we had three letters of opposition. One letter was in your packet.

550
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,610
we got two since the packet went out. Then the third letter is a letter in favor of the request from the church.

551
00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:29,050
>> some of the complaints or

552
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:33,640
the questions are about noise and pollution and traffic.

553
00:56:40,885 --> 00:56:44,675
is there any way to estimate what we're looking at? From a traffic standpoint, again,

554
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:46,720
they provided us traffic counts based on engineering design standards.

555
00:56:52,015 --> 00:56:55,000
again, our engineering staff has not found any major issues with the proposed traffic counts.

556
00:56:58,990 --> 00:57:02,245
noise and other type of pollution matters. If there are nuisance issues that come up,

557
00:57:04,975 --> 00:57:04,975
we would treat those as code enforcement cases once the issues are there.

558
00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:16,765
>> I'm trying to understand all this. If we don't approve,

559
00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:21,250
then people can come back. Could it be worse to people who don't like it, could it be worse?

560
00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:30,100
>> if you don't approve, then you're going to be right back here looking another application,

561
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:32,860
so you have the opportunity to deny that application as well if you think it's worse.

562
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:37,770
at this stage, you will have final say as to what this site's

563
00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:45,550
going to be designed as. That's this stage. The next stage that mayor dawkins was talking about were the details and

564
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,450
more technical reviews that are either administratively approved or approved at p&z level.

565
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:55,480
you're approving the actual use in the lot layout or site design at this point in time.

566
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,945
>> thank you so much. >> councilman farco.

567
00:58:04,015 --> 00:58:04,015
>> thank you. Wes these two warehouse buildings,

568
00:58:10,465 --> 00:58:10,465
it's not anything that's out of the ordinary that's not already in there.

569
00:58:16,135 --> 00:58:20,080
we're talking about a commercial area that's surrounded by businesses. I know that's really our industrial park area.

570
00:58:25,660 --> 00:58:25,660
I know that there's some residential that backs up to the other part of the industrial,

571
00:58:30,310 --> 00:58:32,830
but this is inner, and it's surrounded. Everything surrounding is some type of business.

572
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:38,560
I know we have a I think there's a rehab facility. Correct. That's that's to to the east.

573
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:41,860
but everything else, we have office buildings, hotels.

574
00:58:47,845 --> 00:58:47,845
the church was actually a ua cinema to start.

575
00:58:52,735 --> 00:58:52,735
we're talking about that this really is what we wanted in this area of bedford.

576
00:59:01,045 --> 00:59:04,975
this is our commercial business area, and so it's really not out of the purview of this section of our city.

577
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,950
>> you're correct. This application falls right in line with our proposed conference of plan master plan,

578
00:59:18,070 --> 00:59:20,485
and it meets all the goals for this area. >> we have some businesses that are wanting to come in in a commercial area.

579
00:59:26,530 --> 00:59:30,250
we don't know if they're going to be good business owners or not business owners. That's just a chance we shake,

580
00:59:31,630 --> 00:59:31,630
but it's within our commercial and our economic development area for our city.

581
00:59:37,045 --> 00:59:39,250
correct. Thank you. >> well, so the eight adjoining property manager owners that were notified.

582
00:59:43,915 --> 00:59:47,140
that is the I guess was it 200 feet? >> yes. Two hundred feet out from the property.

583
00:59:49,090 --> 00:59:51,565
>> we already mentioned some of them here, and you said only 16%.

584
00:59:54,190 --> 00:59:56,350
>> 16% is the total. >> none of that was residential.

585
00:59:58,315 --> 01:00:02,050
>> no. None of it was residential. There were no residential properties notified. Now, of course, there was a sign put on the property,

586
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,250
and we published in the newspaper, but the residential is further to the north.

587
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:11,710
>> further to the north. This may be a technical. Why 200 feet? Why do we do that?

588
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,220
>> that's what state law requires? >> I'm assuming that has to do with

589
01:00:17,890 --> 01:00:17,890
the nuisance traffic and things that may be in a zoning change?

590
01:00:22,660 --> 01:00:23,935
[overlapping] does that bring it before you? All we do the 200 foot because that's a state law requirement.

591
01:00:26,770 --> 01:00:30,640
>> I'm just extrapolating reason why 200 feet. I'm assuming that that would be the impacted area of noise, pollution.

592
01:00:36,925 --> 01:00:36,925
>> that sort of thing, and that's why we go ahead and do the 200 foot rule.

593
01:00:40,990 --> 01:00:44,875
would that be correct, city attorney? >> that could be correct. >> should be correct.

594
01:00:45,835 --> 01:00:49,690
>> I don't try to ascribe too much logic to legislative action. >> I don't think you should ever ascribe logic to any legislative action by the state.

595
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:55,440
very good. Any additional questions for wes. We got him up here?

596
01:01:01,225 --> 01:01:04,255
>> I do know the applicant has a presentation for y'all, as well. >> very good. At that time,

597
01:01:07,015 --> 01:01:09,460
what we'll do is, I'll open the public hearing, we'll hear from the applicant, and then we'll still leave the public hearing,

598
01:01:12,610 --> 01:01:15,580
open for anyone in the audience who would like to come and speak to this issue. I'll open the public hearing at 7:01.

599
01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:18,460
I invite the applicant to come up and go ahead and begin their presentation.

600
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:35,400
>> good evening, everyone. Thank you for having me. My name is justin howe, development manager of archway properties.

601
01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:41,130
I've been in archway properties for over six years now. Here we there. Clock, who's our partner in our dallas office.

602
01:01:44,445 --> 01:01:46,530
he just want to talk to you a little bit about who archway properties is as a business owner,

603
01:01:49,125 --> 01:01:51,630
and also give you a little bit more color about our vision for the foreign parkway development.

604
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,590
archway, were founded in 2003, almost coming up on 25 years in development with offices,

605
01:02:03,330 --> 01:02:04,995
both houston and dallas, mostly focused in the industrial office and mixed use sectors,

606
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,165
really looking for strategic land sites that really are going to be a benefit not only to the community,

607
01:02:14,775 --> 01:02:17,475
but our end users, our investors, and ultimately our tenants who occupy those buildings.

608
01:02:21,375 --> 01:02:25,035
we, as archway our mission statement, or our values are really held in excellence,

609
01:02:28,305 --> 01:02:28,305
integrity and joy, and I think we really try to exemplify that in everything we do.

610
01:02:32,775 --> 01:02:32,775
that's part of the reason I've been an archway for the time that I have.

611
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:37,320
just to give you a little bit more understanding of the quality of product

612
01:02:42,015 --> 01:02:42,015
we typically put on the ground and our capabilities.

613
01:02:47,055 --> 01:02:48,720
some more recent projects we've done in the area on the right hand side of the screen there,

614
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:53,640
you'll see bonnie view and the I-20 logistics park. Those are both located in south dallas.

615
01:02:55,845 --> 01:02:55,845
the I-20 logistics park actually has the capability for us to build two,

616
01:03:02,010 --> 01:03:05,055
one million square foot buildings. We've built one of two, and which was recently occupied by google.

617
01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:10,470
they took the whole building, and we're currently in design and permanent for the second building.

618
01:03:13,245 --> 01:03:14,850
then just adjacent to that site, we have a three building industrial development,

619
01:03:17,385 --> 01:03:21,030
mixed building, but a total of 450,000 square feet. Currently, we are completing permitting now and ready to go into construction.

620
01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:25,170
then hurst is another 124,000 square foot industrial building,

621
01:03:30,435 --> 01:03:34,230
which again, we've gotten through permitting in houston and about to break ground. Then finally, royal 114,

622
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:37,530
which we built and completed in 2023 is a four building industrial development,

623
01:03:44,865 --> 01:03:44,865
totals of around, I believe it's about 450,000 square feet,

624
01:03:49,575 --> 01:03:49,575
buildings from 40,000 square feet to 155,000 square feet.

625
01:03:54,105 --> 01:03:57,840
I want to talk a little bit more about the royal 114 project only because I think it's a really good case study

626
01:03:59,070 --> 01:03:59,070
for ultimately what we're trying to achieve here in bedford.

627
01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:07,575
this site was an infilled site in irving. You can see the four buildings that pretty obvious with the four white roofs there.

628
01:04:13,685 --> 01:04:13,685
but the layout of the site was really focused their rear load buildings,

629
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:21,110
where the service area, some people refer to as a truck core,

630
01:04:22,610 --> 01:04:25,930
but the service area is internal to the site. You're getting the more aesthetically pleasing features

631
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:32,370
of the building facing the outward community, and a lot of the noise pollution, light pollution is contained within inside the building area.

632
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:41,670
the other thing too to mention is a lot of the tenant base that we are seeing in these type of

633
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:44,700
buildings tend to be more technical.

634
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,490
a lot of people think of industrial buildings, and think of an amazon.

635
01:04:55,425 --> 01:04:55,425
but we have two different pharmaceutical companies.

636
01:05:00,495 --> 01:05:04,410
subcontractors, industrial suppliers, and ultimately low volume logistical users who are for example, our hvac subcontractor.

637
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,035
they have training facilities in there, offices. They have racking and storage,

638
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:21,525
but a lot of their truck traffic is box trucks, visiting sites as they're installing hvac,

639
01:05:25,305 --> 01:05:25,305
madiska tenant, who's in the building on the northwest plant corner there.

640
01:05:33,090 --> 01:05:36,540
they've gone even so as far as to fill in some of our dock doors, because they really only need, like two or three truck spots.

641
01:05:39,765 --> 01:05:42,975
anyways, keeping this in mind, this is a very similar vision what we're trying to achieve over here in forum.

642
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,790
going from that site plan to this site plan, you can see very similar rear load buildings,

643
01:05:54,225 --> 01:05:54,225
service areas facing inward to the inside of the site,

644
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,325
where we're largely trying to block out the less aesthetically pleasing portion of

645
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:06,540
those buildings that inner portion of the site, and then focusing on the landscaping on the outside of the site,

646
01:06:10,365 --> 01:06:10,365
where really you're going to have your most potential to see into that service area.

647
01:06:17,385 --> 01:06:17,385
as west mentioned, 42,000 in north of the 60,000 square foot building.

648
01:06:23,370 --> 01:06:25,095
we think it's a great location. There's two major highways, 121, 183 right there,

649
01:06:28,290 --> 01:06:31,580
and we're also adjacent to the dfw airport sub-market, which is where royal 114 was built.

650
01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:37,100
with all that said, we strongly feel that we're going to have a very similar tenant base, pharmaceutical companies, subcontractors.

651
01:06:42,025 --> 01:06:42,025
these buildings are going to be a lot more geared to those type of tenants.

652
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:48,830
great skilled labor and technical jobs that will also be brought in.

653
01:06:55,575 --> 01:06:57,570
then, as west mentioned, too surrounding infrastructure is designed to support the trough tract that we will have.

654
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:03,320
this just give you a little more clear picture of the site design.

655
01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:11,430
hopeful a little bit more zoomed in. Is there any general questions in relation to that? I think I've talked through a lot of this.

656
01:07:13,260 --> 01:07:16,605
I have a few more pictures, that's going to give you. >> council member fargo. >> sure. >> you're talking about hvac,

657
01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:20,325
which is right up my alley. But you're talking about 9-5 not 24/7 tenants.

658
01:07:26,685 --> 01:07:26,685
your majority of your tenants are normal business hour tenants and not a walmart.

659
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,230
>> [overlapping] targets. >> the trucks coming in, not like the traffic that I know some of

660
01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:41,010
the residents are worried about that they have already to the east of them.

661
01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:48,690
that's constant with those trucks. This is more on a regular 40-hour basis business.

662
01:07:55,725 --> 01:07:55,725
>> I would say that that's what we've been experiencing.

663
01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:02,970
>> any additional questions for the site? >> I just have a couple more slides here.

664
01:08:04,545 --> 01:08:06,900
we create a couple renderings to give you a sense of boots on the ground of what this will actually look like.

665
01:08:09,810 --> 01:08:12,690
just to note, the landscaping is actually reflective of the landscaping plan in these renderings that we submitted to the city.

666
01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:20,310
this is sitting on the corner of plaza and forum, looking at the larger building.

667
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:22,620
now, it was mentioned that we did have this landscape buffer that we're combating here.

668
01:08:28,965 --> 01:08:31,620
what we've done is move the sidewalk all the way up as close as we can to the curb and then

669
01:08:34,290 --> 01:08:34,290
try to because of the water line conflicting with the trees.

670
01:08:40,245 --> 01:08:40,245
we want to try to avoid any sort of long-term maintenance issues for bedford.

671
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:44,280
try to install some larger bushes that are really going to give,

672
01:08:49,050 --> 01:08:52,875
hopefully support that level of screening that you all are looking for. In addition to that,

673
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:57,570
what's also going to be helpful is the grading on this site, it's a lot steeper than it looks.

674
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,730
that first building you'll notice, and you'll see it better in this next picture. This is front facing building one.

675
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,745
the buildings actually going to sit a little bit lower than form road. In addition to those added bushes and trees,

676
01:09:11,010 --> 01:09:13,560
you're almost not even able to see the first floor of the building or what would be the first floor of the building.

677
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,515
this is a view of the truck court. The way we position the detention ponds and the landscaping,

678
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:27,300
it actually gives a little bit larger landscape buffer than what's even called for.

679
01:09:32,295 --> 01:09:36,195
you have this front level of trees and bushes that are right up against the road. Then you have our detention ponds,

680
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:37,620
and then we have an added layer of trees and bushes behind it.

681
01:09:41,900 --> 01:09:45,360
you can see some dock positions, but largely, it's going to block out a lot of

682
01:09:47,730 --> 01:09:51,270
the visual and negative aesthetics and maybe what some people would observe in the truck court or the service area rather.

683
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:56,360
this is the view from the church other side of the truck court.

684
01:10:00,570 --> 01:10:00,570
again, we're doing our best here with what with the landscaping we can put in

685
01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:05,220
place to largely try and block out a lot of the truck court that service area.

686
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,080
again, just from building two, just to just give you a sense of what we're doing.

687
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,890
the trees are just see through so you can see the building, but again, just a little bit more of the same.

688
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,710
I know there's been a few concerns or there's been concerns brought up about traffic patterns.

689
01:10:34,815 --> 01:10:38,175
we want to address this a little bit further. There's a couple of ways to get to the site,

690
01:10:40,110 --> 01:10:43,980
obviously, coming from 121 and 183. Just to focus on 183, there's really two exit ramps that could provide you access to our site.

691
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:48,960
there's one a little bit farther up off the screen there,

692
01:10:53,055 --> 01:10:53,055
and the logical entrance to our site from that exit is a plaza,

693
01:10:58,990 --> 01:11:02,690
which is what we're talking about a little bit earlier. Then, if for whatever reason, you missed that exit,

694
01:11:04,145 --> 01:11:07,760
you really have to come up and turn around on the feeder for 121, and then come up back behind.

695
01:11:10,110 --> 01:11:10,110
I'm following that red line here just on called the south side of 121.

696
01:11:15,495 --> 01:11:15,495
there's a side road in there where you would have to take form to come around.

697
01:11:20,235 --> 01:11:20,235
but we believe most of the trucks will take that initial exit to enter plaza.

698
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,185
that's just a more logical route. Then similarly on 121,

699
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:34,260
you would have to come up onto the feeder and then do a turn around and take that same route onto the side road,

700
01:11:38,490 --> 01:11:38,490
and then a little ways down form to get to get in the service area.

701
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,385
does that make does that make sense? >> yeah, I believe so.

702
01:11:49,005 --> 01:11:49,005
I'm looking at it now. On forum, that make sense.

703
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,670
my initial was if they missed the plaza exit there, that they would take forum, but we have that median in there,

704
01:11:57,750 --> 01:12:01,725
which would make a turn radius very difficult. What's what it looks like there. They'd have to take it all the way to 121 and then go around.

705
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:06,690
>> sure. That's right. >> it's pretty much contained,

706
01:12:08,775 --> 01:12:11,205
for the most part, right in that area. Any kind of traffic patterns?

707
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:14,010
>> yes, sir. Yeah. >> on that property. That's what I was thinking when I was looking at this property.

708
01:12:18,555 --> 01:12:22,125
just looking at it, it just seemed like most of the traffic's going to be on plaza, and very few, if any,

709
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:23,880
would be formed just for a little bit to get access to the either 121 or 183.

710
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:31,080
>> yes, sir.

711
01:12:35,690 --> 01:12:39,000
>> see the present. [laughter]. >> very good. Appreciate it. Thank you.

712
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:44,690
council, any questions for archway where we got them? Very good. Thank you so much.

713
01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:49,950
appreciate it. At this time, we're still have a public hearing, so if any we would like to come up and speak on this item from the public.

714
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:53,460
now is the time. Just come up and tell us your name and address.

715
01:13:02,330 --> 01:13:02,330
>> good evening, mayor cogan and city council.

716
01:13:06,540 --> 01:13:08,640
thank you for this opportunity. I'm here tonight to oppose this problem.

717
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:11,910
my main concern and the concern of people I've spoken to is health reasons and pollution.

718
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,045
I reside at 3122 bedford road, which is located in the villages of durango townhomes,

719
01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:28,650
which is 690 square feet away from this development.

720
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:33,990
as such, and assuming that we are going to be having

721
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:38,070
diesel trucks based on the number of truck bays that are proposed in the project,

722
01:13:43,965 --> 01:13:43,965
diesel fumes pose a huge health problem to people and to animals,

723
01:13:52,245 --> 01:13:52,245
ranging from asthma and we have enough of that without adding additional pollution.

724
01:13:59,180 --> 01:13:59,180
respiratory diseases and every which kind of cancer you can think of.

725
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:06,330
I tried to do a little bit of research since friday when I found out about this project,

726
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:12,870
and there's a huge body of research on the effects

727
01:14:17,655 --> 01:14:17,655
of exposure to diesel fumes and it's still ongoing.

728
01:14:23,610 --> 01:14:23,610
the consensus though is that there is really

729
01:14:28,755 --> 01:14:28,755
no safe distance and the particulates stay in the air.

730
01:14:35,775 --> 01:14:35,775
being in a town home of 87 homes,

731
01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:43,275
where we have very young children, we have older adults,

732
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,750
and we have families, we have animals. We are in danger of health issues from this project.

733
01:14:55,725 --> 01:14:59,550
aside from that, we are concerned about the additional traffic and the noise, especially from idling.

734
01:15:05,535 --> 01:15:05,535
now, we don't yet really know what kinds of tenants we'll have,

735
01:15:11,385 --> 01:15:11,385
but based on the number of truck bays,

736
01:15:16,820 --> 01:15:16,820
if the businesses operate during the day,

737
01:15:20,955 --> 01:15:20,955
that doesn't necessarily mean there won't be truck traffic at night.

738
01:15:25,665 --> 01:15:25,665
that is going to be a noise problem for anybody in the area,

739
01:15:29,985 --> 01:15:29,985
not just our community because the trucks idle.

740
01:15:35,625 --> 01:15:39,210
we have a good number of people who don't work traditional hours, so they sleep during the day.

741
01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:41,625
aside from that, I have an estimate here of 537 vehicle trips a day,

742
01:15:50,475 --> 01:15:50,475
which was estimated by the developer and communicated to our engineering department.

743
01:15:58,425 --> 01:16:00,375
that seems like a lot of trips. Not all truck necessarily,

744
01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:06,060
but probably a good portion of them are. We have, in addition to our community,

745
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:12,240
the copper hill apartments are very close. >> one second. Rib, we had a timer here for three minutes,

746
01:16:15,870 --> 01:16:18,195
but I thought during public hearings. >> it's three minutes.

747
01:16:20,235 --> 01:16:23,115
>> it's three minutes. Except for the applicant. >> except the applicant. I was not here for that through that meeting.

748
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:29,925
>> hopefully, all that has gotten past there. >> you did. >> [overlapping] I'm sorry. But anyway, the increased traffic,

749
01:16:34,050 --> 01:16:35,805
the wear and tear on the streets, and primarily the health issues are a concern. Thank you.

750
01:16:40,770 --> 01:16:40,770
>> thank you very much. Anybody else here to speak on this item. That would be your time.

751
01:16:54,050 --> 01:16:57,495
not seeing any. Last chance, going once, going twice.

752
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:00,600
I'll go ahead and close the public hearing at 7:17.

753
01:17:05,115 --> 01:17:05,115
council, looking at the application.

754
01:17:11,060 --> 01:17:11,060
just from the comprehensive land use of what this looks like,

755
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:17,880
employment focused, looking at the traffic patterns.

756
01:17:21,885 --> 01:17:21,885
for me, personally, I feel as though that this meets it exactly the way it should.

757
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,330
with the comprehensive plan, it meets it exactly what we're looking for, with good access between 183, 121.

758
01:17:33,465 --> 01:17:33,465
this is as good as a commercial property as any, quite frankly,

759
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:38,160
and any residential is far away from this.

760
01:17:43,275 --> 01:17:45,585
it's to the north. Issues with traffic.

761
01:17:47,835 --> 01:17:47,835
I don't see it being an issue given that traffic pattern and noise as well.

762
01:17:53,925 --> 01:17:56,415
I just feel it's really too far away. Given that it's a great example and great property for commercial,

763
01:18:00,180 --> 01:18:00,180
I'm going to recommend that we as council a approve this application.

764
01:18:05,690 --> 01:18:05,690
I guess I'll make that motion to approve.

765
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,040
second by council member steve. Let's go and vote.

766
01:18:27,260 --> 01:18:30,780
>> it's frozen. Since you seconded, I'm to assume that that would be yes. There it is.

767
01:18:35,925 --> 01:18:39,840
that passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Thank you, congratulations to the applicant.

768
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,790
very good. Let's move on. Item number 5. Is a resolution to the city of bedford texas,

769
01:18:50,420 --> 01:18:52,580
authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute an economic development program agreement pursuant to chapter 380 of

770
01:18:55,610 --> 01:18:58,990
the texas local government code in the city's economic development policy by and between the city of bedford texas and sgsc fund,

771
01:19:03,090 --> 01:19:05,805
llc for improvements to the stone gate shopping center located at 1305 and 13 brown trail.

772
01:19:09,210 --> 01:19:12,165
give you economic development manager christian smith. Thank you. Welcome to your debut.

773
01:19:13,980 --> 01:19:17,805
>> thank you, mayor, council, christian smith. Today staff is bringing forward

774
01:19:19,425 --> 01:19:23,040
a resolution to authorize the city managers to negotiate and execute an economic development agreement for

775
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:28,725
proposed revitalization of the stonegate shopping center. The property was recently acquired by center point commercial,

776
01:19:32,910 --> 01:19:34,800
and the new ownership seeks to make improvements to the facades of both buildings of the site,

777
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,350
extend a portion of the building that's adjacent to turning point brewery into a food court pavilion and make some improvements to the parking lot.

778
01:19:44,370 --> 01:19:47,460
before I forget, we do have mark cohen here from center point commercial available for questions as well.

779
01:19:51,570 --> 01:19:54,480
just to go as oriented, this is the project location at at the corner of brown trail and bedford road outlined here in yellow.

780
01:19:57,735 --> 01:19:59,970
I'm going to flip through a couple of slides here. These just outlined the current condition of the site.

781
01:20:03,195 --> 01:20:05,925
here's that larger building facing turning point, and then the other building just off to the side of the parking lot.

782
01:20:09,195 --> 01:20:12,555
the proposed improvement, as you can see here on this rendering, redoing the exterior facades,

783
01:20:14,580 --> 01:20:14,580
having some extended verticality and new colors mixed materials on the top.

784
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:22,875
then in the center here just off to the left, you can see that addition of the food co pavilion,

785
01:20:25,335 --> 01:20:27,615
a little over 7,000 square feet. Then this just shows the two main tenants of the larger building on site,

786
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:34,620
and then just showing in this view what some of those food court kiosk would look like with the extension.

787
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,120
this project aligns with council's approved strategic and comp plan. Specifically strategic plan focus area 2, economic development,

788
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:48,180
promoting high quality economic growth and business development to expand and diversify the tax base and enhance the quality of life for beefed residents.

789
01:20:52,185 --> 01:20:55,545
then specifically within the comp plan, it calls out the stonegate district, which to kick off revitalization they're doing so incrementally.

790
01:20:59,490 --> 01:21:02,475
building upon the existing character within the zone, based off of its reasonable values to offer

791
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:04,470
a more affordable approach to business development and revitalization.

792
01:21:09,195 --> 01:21:09,195
the proposed terms of the 3d agreement would be

793
01:21:13,365 --> 01:21:13,365
a minimum capital investment on the part of the company at $850,000 to do that work.

794
01:21:18,195 --> 01:21:20,820
the scope of that project, again, would include improvements, the facade of both buildings, parking lot,

795
01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:25,770
expansion of that northern building to create that food hall pavilion. Upon completion of those obligations,

796
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:31,140
the city would provide a one time grant of $200,000 that would be provided to the company after the minimum capital investment has been spent.

797
01:21:34,530 --> 01:21:34,530
then a five year 50% sales tax rebate upon completion of those improvements.

798
01:21:39,645 --> 01:21:39,645
the combined total of which from the city's part would not exceed $300,000.

799
01:21:45,765 --> 01:21:45,765
this just breaks up what I just laid out just in a different form.

800
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:52,350
we'll have the $200,000 grant. Then this just breaks down sales and property tax collections over a 10- year period,

801
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,830
just to give you another idea of what that would look like. On the top chart is sales tax over a 10-year period,

802
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,000
so you can see the portion that the city would be rebating under this agreement and then the portion that's being retained over the 5-year period,

803
01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:09,780
we would estimate a maxing out grant of $100,000 for the sales tax rebate,

804
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:15,360
and then over a 10-year period, the city would retain a little over 300,000 property taxes listed here,

805
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:22,170
not because they're part of this agreement, but just to let you know what the incremental property tax collections

806
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:27,795
would be based off of the investment on the part of the developer. The bottom is just a really quick equation

807
01:22:31,770 --> 01:22:34,425
just to show what the 10-year return on investment to the city would be. You take the gain of investment minus the rebate,

808
01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:38,370
divided by the value of the rebate, and it's about a 50% return on the city's investment over

809
01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,595
that period of time. Any questions? >> yes. Question. That's what we're gating.

810
01:22:47,985 --> 01:22:50,700
>> thank you, mayor kogan. I would like to say this from the very topest of mountain tops.

811
01:22:54,015 --> 01:22:55,845
I move to approve this. I am looking I have been looking so forward to this development.

812
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,570
I've spoken to many patrons, that parking lot is terrible. I've maybe been through it a couple of times.

813
01:23:05,670 --> 01:23:05,670
but I am so excited about that stonegate development.

814
01:23:09,930 --> 01:23:13,500
I've been waiting for this day, and that, I believe, is going to be a huge draw for a larger area.

815
01:23:18,585 --> 01:23:21,540
I moved to approve. >> thank you. I think,

816
01:23:25,875 --> 01:23:28,155
approve let me have a second. I do have questions.

817
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,270
[laughter] I do have questions, and so we can still debate it.

818
01:23:35,835 --> 01:23:37,050
the motion is still on the table, and I will allow us to vote momentarily.

819
01:23:42,981 --> 01:23:45,885
>> [inaudible]. >> we still have correct. We just don't normally do that in our meeting.

820
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:50,190
normally, we're just ready to go. With that, looking at the contract,

821
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:55,320
a couple of things that we're holding them to just by looking at it.

822
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:03,270
they have to get the work started within a year, is that correct? >> two years, by the end of 2027.

823
01:24:05,655 --> 01:24:08,355
that's really just to provide just extra time. All the conversations we've had with the development team.

824
01:24:11,235 --> 01:24:12,960
they would not take that long. >> just to because it such a critical realize or get it started.

825
01:24:16,965 --> 01:24:20,850
to initiate improvements. >> initiate improvement. >> yes.

826
01:24:21,285 --> 01:24:23,870
>> to commence construction. Got you. We're holes holding them to that end, as well,

827
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:27,570
once they provide us receipts of $850,000,

828
01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:31,620
that's when this gets kicked in with the grant of 200,000. The sales tax.

829
01:24:36,675 --> 01:24:39,240
>> yes, sir. That's the trigger. >> that's the trigger. >> looking at looking at this,

830
01:24:42,150 --> 01:24:44,670
we're just talking about facades, but in the definitions, it also included exterior enhancements, repairs,

831
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,360
including parking lot, repairs, landscaping, painting, all of that.

832
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:54,000
is that off the table, parking lot, any of those others?

833
01:24:56,325 --> 01:24:58,260
>> that's all inclusive. The point of describing it that way as facade improvements was conceived as

834
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:05,580
an all inclusive term to render the property in substantial similarity to the renderings provided.

835
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:08,820
>> also, considering that there's a lot of businesses there,

836
01:25:12,915 --> 01:25:12,915
we're going to have access to their records and for sales tax purposes.

837
01:25:17,955 --> 01:25:20,895
>> there's a couple of ways we can do this. It gets a little complicated.

838
01:25:22,860 --> 01:25:25,110
what we'll do is, once all the company's conditions

839
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,920
have been met and there's a request for a payment, at that point, the city will make a request to the state comptroller for

840
01:25:36,330 --> 01:25:38,655
the list of addresses within this property to be provided a confidential sales tax report,

841
01:25:42,180 --> 01:25:44,310
and that will just provide us the gross receipts from the area for the purposes of calculating a rebate.

842
01:25:47,010 --> 01:25:50,055
where it gets a little tricky is if there's less than four tenants there, that report cannot be provided to us because it violates confidentiality.

843
01:25:54,945 --> 01:25:54,945
we've tried to put some language in the agreement that just says, in that situation,

844
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,980
the city would use its good faith efforts with the means it has available to derive an amount for rebate.

845
01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:08,160
but that's functionally how that would work. >> because we're not talking one business,

846
01:26:10,230 --> 01:26:12,660
and usually when we do these economic development agreements, we're talking about one business, one entity.

847
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,200
this is a little bit different when we're talking about a whole property encompassing multiple business.

848
01:26:18,615 --> 01:26:21,200
>> that's exactly correct. >> let's see here. No property tax rebates at all. Just sales tax.

849
01:26:27,255 --> 01:26:30,435
where are we getting these funds from? The grant will come from the economic development fund.

850
01:26:33,555 --> 01:26:35,970
that is exactly what this fund is used for. Type of things. How much do we have in that fund?

851
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:47,990
>> I knew you were going to ask that. [laughter] right now,

852
01:26:53,445 --> 01:26:56,235
including if you approve this tonight, we will end the year with 904,000.

853
01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:01,635
>> nine hundred and four thousand each year, each budget cycle, we allocate.

854
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,535
>> we do. Right now, we're only putting in 5,000 from the general fund.

855
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,310
a couple of years ago, we were also putting in funds from the 4b fund, and we pause that for a little bit.

856
01:27:13,395 --> 01:27:17,085
we have talked with the 4b board about starting that backup again, and I think that's probably something we're going to have

857
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,970
to consider to build this fund back up. We may not be able to do the 250.

858
01:27:23,385 --> 01:27:27,120
it'll just be how we'll just have to look and see what that fund can support. >> correct. That's good.

859
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,235
that's good to know going forward because I forse us wanting to do more of these, especially good partners with shopping centers to beautify city.

860
01:27:35,325 --> 01:27:38,040
then I'll echo, council member gagari this is something that has been a long time coming and that we are very interested in doing.

861
01:27:40,935 --> 01:27:43,170
>> yes. >> that's good to know. Very good. I do have some questions. Thank you, amy.

862
01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:47,025
>> yes. >> I appreciate that. Thank you. I do some questions for the applicant as to what they're preparing to do.

863
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,945
if we could get to the picture on the presentation of what it's being proposed. There you go.

864
01:27:59,125 --> 01:28:01,395
>> hi. Good evening. >> good evening. Mark cohen was center point commercial properties.

865
01:28:04,755 --> 01:28:07,440
I hesitate to come up because I was told long ago in business that when you close the deal, be quiet.

866
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:10,080
[laughter] but no, I'm happy to answer any questions.

867
01:28:14,625 --> 01:28:16,260
>> I don't mean to throw wrench in things. Now, I just want to know looking at this.

868
01:28:19,905 --> 01:28:23,685
first off, thank you so much for being a good partner with the city. >> absolutely.

869
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:24,870
>> this is a real pivotal shopping center here to

870
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:33,045
the south side that we're really interested and really enhancing. I'm looking at this. What enhancements are you thinking about doing to this property?

871
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:41,955
>> everything you see here contemplating has actually been turned in to building inspections.

872
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:45,270
mr. Morrison has been kind enough to let us go ahead and begin the,

873
01:28:49,980 --> 01:28:49,980
permitting process without our final contractor selected.

874
01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:55,845
we've been taking bids. We wanted to have those finalized so we can actually get

875
01:28:58,650 --> 01:29:02,360
the proper bids completed so that we can start. Our goal, we're way behind schedule at this point.

876
01:29:05,730 --> 01:29:07,390
few hurdles. We had some trouble with the structural element originally

877
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:11,400
and getting approved designs from engineers for the food pavilion.

878
01:29:16,110 --> 01:29:19,605
over the course of a year, the entire project has morphed into this much larger,

879
01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:26,910
much more involved section. Originally, it was really going to just be

880
01:29:28,260 --> 01:29:28,260
three little containers out there to sell food.

881
01:29:32,370 --> 01:29:35,550
we started to realize there was a big draw and a very big interest with the turning point crowd and as well,

882
01:29:40,005 --> 01:29:40,005
there really isn't anything like this in multiple miles in multiple directions.

883
01:29:46,905 --> 01:29:49,965
we feel like there's a large need here. We're making a size-able investment,

884
01:29:52,020 --> 01:29:54,090
much larger than we originally had planned. That's part of why the incentive package is important to

885
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,865
us because we've already blown our original budget. But it it'll turn around,

886
01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:06,705
and hopefully it will effectuate a worthy return. We've been very selective.

887
01:30:08,220 --> 01:30:08,220
we haven't made some leases that we originally opted not to do because

888
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,150
we wanted to let this thing get open to create that synergy and pull in better quality tennis.

889
01:30:22,740 --> 01:30:25,320
>> goofing to the atp pickleball. >> atp pickleball. Yes. That was the first one,

890
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:32,190
and that was unexpected, but a lot of entertainment. Part of the facia,

891
01:30:33,945 --> 01:30:37,755
what we did originally was to [inaudible] the building, and some of this was cost engineered.

892
01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:43,185
to make it look really good without spending a lot of money. Currently, there's no screen wall,

893
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:44,640
and so what we're actually going to do is put a what you see along the facia.

894
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,150
there's if you go to the photograph, you'll see little grooves in the building, and so we've aligned this with that.

895
01:30:55,995 --> 01:30:59,760
we're putting vertical multi colored lights in those. Then we're creating an open fencing,

896
01:31:04,725 --> 01:31:06,705
if the best way, where you can see through it, but they're spaced about 8 " apart.

897
01:31:08,985 --> 01:31:11,160
it's going to give you that screening effect, give you a very modern feel,

898
01:31:13,425 --> 01:31:16,230
but still allow where it helped with some of the structural elements because of wind loads and some other things.

899
01:31:18,945 --> 01:31:21,600
there was some creative design done into that, and then we extended that into the pavilion,

900
01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:23,370
and now we've got roll up doors and an indoor outdoor facility.

901
01:31:27,690 --> 01:31:30,480
we added bathrooms, and so we've done some things that really we felt like were important to have a successful venue.

902
01:31:35,535 --> 01:31:37,455
>> good. Appreciate it. I wanted to throw it out there so when people are looking at this picture,

903
01:31:40,785 --> 01:31:43,650
what are they seeing? Those multicolred lights. There are going to be lights that are going to be on there.

904
01:31:45,585 --> 01:31:49,560
>> yes. >> very good. It's going to really enhance this space, and really create a draw for this area.

905
01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:52,830
I can't stress enough how excited we are about this partnership about seeing this,

906
01:31:58,290 --> 01:32:01,920
unfold in the future, because I think it's going to be good and it's great that it's on our south side of bedford,

907
01:32:04,470 --> 01:32:07,650
really giving us more commerce down there. >> we're excited as well. Yes.

908
01:32:10,665 --> 01:32:14,280
>> councilman farco. >> yes. Thank you. Appreciate you because I really like the words of blowing budget

909
01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:17,730
sizable investments those are buzz words that we like to hear.

910
01:32:23,235 --> 01:32:26,550
I really do. I applaud you. This is something that's been very much needed in that area.

911
01:32:30,645 --> 01:32:34,005
I think it's what you're talking about, I think it'll be perfect for down there.

912
01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:39,900
I think it's going to enhance the economic development around there once this is finished, and you bring it in.

913
01:32:43,005 --> 01:32:45,840
thank you for investing in us and taking some time and if we can help you in any other way.

914
01:32:49,515 --> 01:32:52,335
do you have other tenants that you're looking at bringing in? >> we do, we're talking to a handful.

915
01:32:56,025 --> 01:32:58,260
we've got actually at this point, more tenants for the kiosks within the venue than we actually have space for.

916
01:33:03,630 --> 01:33:03,630
we have a designed for three with room for a fourth.

917
01:33:08,370 --> 01:33:10,590
we're going to wait on the fourth one. But we're going to go ahead and build out and see how that works and traffic flow,

918
01:33:14,175 --> 01:33:14,175
make sure we don't create bottleenecks and other problems and make sure that everything

919
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:18,720
flows nicely between turning point pickleball and the venue as well.

920
01:33:24,030 --> 01:33:24,030
we've got multiple entertainment concepts that are interested in the remaining space.

921
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:30,900
we've downsized turning point to improve their sales and improve their longevity,

922
01:33:38,535 --> 01:33:40,410
and then took the larger section, which they expanded into and are going to lease that.

923
01:33:44,295 --> 01:33:47,880
we're looking at some ways of maybe expanding our current tenants that are in there, and then some smaller tenants when I say small.

924
01:33:52,185 --> 01:33:53,895
that's a 12,000 foot space. Trying to get it maybe to eight would be better.

925
01:33:56,700 --> 01:34:00,630
we've got some nationals that have had interest that we're not sure of the right fit. We're real synergistic when we select tenants.

926
01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:05,805
we don't pick the first people who come along and want to pay us rent. There's a lot of tenants that'll pay us a lot of money for uses that we don't like.

927
01:34:10,755 --> 01:34:14,685
we're not always about it's not all about bottom dollars. >> there you go, using this but wears again.

928
01:34:16,740 --> 01:34:19,890
you're doing a good job. Thank you very much. That's it, mr. Mayor for me. >> very good. Any other discussion, councilwoman robin.

929
01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:27,090
>> I have a couple of questions, even though I already seconded. Is the name going to stay the same stonegate shopping center?

930
01:34:31,275 --> 01:34:34,110
>> yes. Part of this pavilion, we've been working on similar concepts in other parts of town going back to about 2020,

931
01:34:39,615 --> 01:34:43,410
none have been able to pull together the way we've wanted. We had some success on one that,

932
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:49,275
unfortunately, covid ended up killing that. But we're building off of that same concept.

933
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,235
this is a smaller scale. But we've got some branding for those. Now, the stonegate will remain.

934
01:34:58,230 --> 01:34:58,230
but as far as the pavilion and the synergy that we're creating.

935
01:35:03,090 --> 01:35:05,460
we have some names that we're wrapping up that will get some signage to create a brand that you can go to

936
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,570
other parts of the metroplex and find something so you know what to expect without it being an actual business name.

937
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:16,860
>> I'm also excited that the parking lots going to look better.

938
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:22,200
>> that's usually the very first thing we do when we're finished with construction.

939
01:35:27,465 --> 01:35:30,270
if people can't park. >> councilwoman [inaudible]. >> is there any chance that you

940
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:33,270
could either knock down that little kiosk that's in the front of your parking lot?

941
01:35:38,145 --> 01:35:39,880
>> we don't own it. >> I know, but could you buy it [laughter] or knock it down?

942
01:35:45,170 --> 01:35:47,310
>> it's been proposed. >> thank you.

943
01:35:50,570 --> 01:35:54,300
>> seeing no other discussion. We do have a motion on the table, so gag went ahead and made an approved motion to approve.

944
01:35:58,170 --> 01:36:00,180
we have a second by counsel donovan brandon. Let's go ahead and vote and that surprise, it passes unanimously.

945
01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:10,665
thank you, counsel. Thank you, staff. Good day, christian. Moving on.

946
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:19,750
>> item number 6. Consider a resolution authorizing the city manager or doesn't need to execute a professional services contract with

947
01:36:23,260 --> 01:36:26,830
lowe's design to provide a professional services for the design of four tennis courts and 4-6 pickle ball courts at generations park at boy's ranch,

948
01:36:31,795 --> 01:36:31,795
and an amount not to exceed $222,000 parks and recreation director, mark law.

949
01:36:37,015 --> 01:36:40,945
>> thank you mayor. Good evening, council. I will try to be quick. This has been a long process for me.

950
01:36:43,705 --> 01:36:43,705
as you know this is part of the grant through the texas parks and wildlife department,

951
01:36:49,075 --> 01:36:49,075
I will remind you that our side of that is 750,000.

952
01:36:54,295 --> 01:36:58,150
the state side is 750,000 for a grand total of 1.5 million of this tennis court and pickle ball.

953
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:03,760
we're a little over a million budgeted towards the court side of things.

954
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:10,560
this r750 was budgeted out of the phase next bond,

955
01:37:16,105 --> 01:37:19,105
and I'll get into some numbers and things like that here later. Forgive me, my throat or my voice is about to go.

956
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:28,690
again, this is an item is to enter into a professional service agreement with lowe's design.

957
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,115
lowe's, I think they're out in ashville, and I have david mccaskill, who's here tonight.

958
01:37:38,305 --> 01:37:42,040
if we have any questions related to the design of the proposal, but this is for design of the tennis and pickle ball courts.

959
01:37:44,965 --> 01:37:48,070
the location of those are the five acres or just short of five acres north of the bedford centered ymca,

960
01:37:51,730 --> 01:37:51,730
directly east of the post office or what we in parks call the masquite lot.

961
01:37:56,035 --> 01:37:56,035
it's where we park all the cars and overflow from all of our special events.

962
01:38:01,390 --> 01:38:03,460
I do want you to know that while the texas parks and wildlife grant funds will support

963
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,490
specific portions of the overall project, the design phase covered under this agreement is not

964
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:12,790
eligible for reimbursement through the texas parks and wildlife department.

965
01:38:18,175 --> 01:38:18,175
basically, when we went and we applied for this grant back in 2002 or 2001,

966
01:38:24,355 --> 01:38:24,355
the city did not budget for professional services within that.

967
01:38:29,245 --> 01:38:29,245
we do not have the ability to use grant funds for design services.

968
01:38:36,475 --> 01:38:38,725
to move this project forward, we need to find funds from outside of the grant to get this done.

969
01:38:44,485 --> 01:38:47,380
I'm going to move all over the place here. I do want to talk about lowe's,

970
01:38:48,670 --> 01:38:51,520
because they are before you tonight. Part of the scope included in their proposal.

971
01:38:55,450 --> 01:38:55,450
they will be taking care of most of all the geotechnical engineering,

972
01:39:00,130 --> 01:39:00,130
civil engineering, landscaping, structural, electrical.

973
01:39:05,050 --> 01:39:08,110
they will also do some master planning of the site. Obviously, they'll need to do that as part of the design process.

974
01:39:11,905 --> 01:39:14,485
they will do some conceptual planning. Dds, design development will be part of that,

975
01:39:18,565 --> 01:39:20,605
and they will obviously prepare the construction documents that we will take forward through the bid process.

976
01:39:24,775 --> 01:39:28,480
with that said, they will also support the bid servicing. We have a really good purchasing department here with angie miles.

977
01:39:31,630 --> 01:39:34,480
she will handle all of those bidding services. If we get into some technical terminology that we can't answer.

978
01:39:38,020 --> 01:39:41,680
we will bring lowe's in on that, and they will be a part of that. Then, of course, they will support

979
01:39:43,150 --> 01:39:43,150
the construction related services once we break ground.

980
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:51,790
they will also provide us a preliminary scope of opinion of probable cost as part of this as well.

981
01:39:55,225 --> 01:39:55,225
I do want to be upfront and I'm honest with you and say that we do know that

982
01:40:00,220 --> 01:40:00,220
construction costs for the courts alone will come in higher than what we have budgeted.

983
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,890
as I said, we have just over a million in the grant. We do believe we're estimating.

984
01:40:11,635 --> 01:40:14,170
I don't want to throw any numbers out here and have you hold me to this, but we do think it's going to be worth of 1.6

985
01:40:17,545 --> 01:40:17,545
million to about maybe a little over two million that we need to be prepared for.

986
01:40:22,375 --> 01:40:25,900
this means that we're going to have to use interest earnings from the face next bond to pay for that.

987
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:31,350
let me see here. We will have to use the interest earning from

988
01:40:37,180 --> 01:40:37,180
the face next bond for the construction costs on top of the grant funds,

989
01:40:42,220 --> 01:40:44,635
the million dollar that we'll be using. There are four other elements to this.

990
01:40:46,450 --> 01:40:48,700
we've talked about shade structures. We've talked about disc off additions,

991
01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:54,325
hike and bike trail. Those are all coming into the budget right now,

992
01:40:57,100 --> 01:41:00,880
so we won't need to use any of the interest earnings towards those projects. We are going to try to work with lowe's as far as

993
01:41:03,850 --> 01:41:03,850
the trail segment that maybe they can help design some of that section.

994
01:41:09,670 --> 01:41:12,430
we did lose from the original grant. We did lose what we said in the grant we were going to put in as far as trail goes.

995
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:18,070
at some point in time, we did that during the build of the center.

996
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:23,880
we do currently have approximately $835,000 in the phase next interest earnings.

997
01:41:31,480 --> 01:41:34,720
approximately 220 of that, if approved tonight, will go to the design and a good majority,

998
01:41:38,365 --> 01:41:38,365
if not all of the remaining 615,000 ish.

999
01:41:42,550 --> 01:41:42,550
I do think we'll have to go to the construction side of things.

1000
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,785
I would prepare for that. I do want to mention because $835,000 is a lot of money that per bond language,

1001
01:41:57,190 --> 01:41:57,190
we are required to use these funds only at generations park at boy's ranch.

1002
01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:05,395
I want to make that very clear. We do think this is an acceptable use of the money,

1003
01:42:10,105 --> 01:42:10,105
and it allows us to complete this project that has been on my desk for a long time.

1004
01:42:16,150 --> 01:42:19,420
this project obviously needs professional design firm to design the site layout and put construction documents together.

1005
01:42:23,095 --> 01:42:26,485
what you'll find with this, I don't know if any of you've looked at this site. It is a very complex site.

1006
01:42:28,450 --> 01:42:31,975
mr. Mccaskill behind me said, it's not that big of a deal. I do think it's pretty complex.

1007
01:42:34,540 --> 01:42:37,180
we have a lot of elevation changes throughout the site. There are drainage concerns that we must address from a civil engineering standpoint.

1008
01:42:41,740 --> 01:42:41,740
the site will need retaining walls most likely just because of the elevation change.

1009
01:42:46,405 --> 01:42:46,405
I think there's 40 feet of

1010
01:42:51,175 --> 01:42:51,175
change from south to north or from the bedford center to harwood.

1011
01:42:57,730 --> 01:42:59,740
we'll have to address those things. We'll need to contend with existing underground utilities,

1012
01:43:02,170 --> 01:43:05,650
and we need to look at parking. We also, of course, need to look at accessibility requirements,

1013
01:43:07,915 --> 01:43:07,915
and we need to address those to make sure we're in accordance with tdlr.

1014
01:43:14,095 --> 01:43:18,040
also mentioned one of the bigger things with this and probably one of the most frustrating things

1015
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:21,910
and I know councilman steve has heard me update the parks board is we can't get a notice to proceed from the state of

1016
01:43:25,930 --> 01:43:25,930
texas without stamped documents.

1017
01:43:30,685 --> 01:43:30,685
that is in our holding pattern right now with some of the other projects.

1018
01:43:34,975 --> 01:43:38,200
they just have several requirements that we have to follow. With this, we need a design team of engineers and

1019
01:43:41,650 --> 01:43:41,650
architects to come in and stamp these drawings and let us move forward with that.

1020
01:43:45,970 --> 01:43:49,120
lowe's is the capability to do this. They have very similar projects throughout the united states that they've done.

1021
01:43:53,230 --> 01:43:56,770
we are excited about working with them. Given the conditions professional design service are

1022
01:43:59,410 --> 01:43:59,410
essential to deliver a safe functional and cost effective project.

1023
01:44:03,445 --> 01:44:06,070
lowe's has the technical expertise and the experience needed to complete this complex design work.

1024
01:44:09,930 --> 01:44:13,930
really to get this project done, we've got to have them. Time frame on this project,

1025
01:44:17,380 --> 01:44:19,870
they're looking at six months for the design and construction documents to be put together,

1026
01:44:23,035 --> 01:44:23,035
two months for bidding and construction contract negotiations.

1027
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:30,220
then we're looking at 6-8 months for actual construction of the tennis and pickle ball courts.

1028
01:44:34,195 --> 01:44:35,815
if we approve it tonight, we do have a meeting scheduled for thursday with the design team,

1029
01:44:39,235 --> 01:44:42,400
and we will obviously work hard to keep this project on schedule and within the budget that we come up with.

1030
01:44:46,045 --> 01:44:48,475
that really concludes what I have. As I mentioned, we do have david mccaskill here with lowe's.

1031
01:44:51,595 --> 01:44:54,970
he is one of the vice presidents. He's able to answer any questions specific to the proposal and maybe some of the construction.

1032
01:44:59,005 --> 01:45:01,480
I'm here to answer any questions on behalf of the city, and if we get into finances,

1033
01:45:03,070 --> 01:45:03,070
I'll take a shot at it, but we do have karen here answer those.

1034
01:45:08,290 --> 01:45:11,605
>> thank you so much, mark for that summary. I think I speak for everyone when very excited about this.

1035
01:45:15,130 --> 01:45:18,360
this is much needed for the pickle ball and tennis ball courts. This has been something that has been talked about.

1036
01:45:20,835 --> 01:45:24,435
gosh, I want to say pre-pandemic almost. I remember actually pandemic sitting in here

1037
01:45:27,450 --> 01:45:30,450
discussing where we're going to put tennis ball courts. It's been a long time coming,

1038
01:45:31,970 --> 01:45:33,925
very excited to see this going underway, and I know that despite,

1039
01:45:36,430 --> 01:45:39,835
it might come in a little bit more, I know that karen can work her magic, and we'll make sure we'll get it done.

1040
01:45:42,190 --> 01:45:45,280
I do feel that very positive that this is going to be a great asset to the city and I know we're going to get this done.

1041
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,720
with that, council, any questions? Mayor pro tem dawkins. >> thanks, mr. Mayor. Mark,

1042
01:45:55,150 --> 01:45:55,150
with the grant, it wasn't just the tennis and pickle ball courts.

1043
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,775
it was those other projects you talked about. >> correct. >> I guess I need some reminders.

1044
01:46:07,570 --> 01:46:07,570
was the skate park any part of the consideration for any parks or anything like that?

1045
01:46:13,855 --> 01:46:17,710
my only concern is, pickle ball is very popular now, so we're have a private business that's already coming.

1046
01:46:20,815 --> 01:46:20,815
I know but ymca participants

1047
01:46:27,670 --> 01:46:29,560
are taking over the courts to do pickle ball there and so now we're building an additional court that,

1048
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:35,080
I guess anyone can use. I just concerned that at some point,

1049
01:46:37,555 --> 01:46:40,950
people are going to be over it. I guess the designers can help us have something flexible where,

1050
01:46:46,780 --> 01:46:46,780
is it my understanding that a tennis ball court can't be a pickle ball court,

1051
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,095
but it can't be vice versa? Or is there some flexibility?

1052
01:46:56,310 --> 01:47:00,120
>> you can put several pickle ball courts on a tennis court. Now, purist and I won't even call them purist anymore,

1053
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:04,545
just anyone who plays pickle ball, they're not probably going to like a tennis court

1054
01:47:09,670 --> 01:47:09,670
being converted to pickle ball, and vice versa.

1055
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:15,030
>> yeah, I just know that was a young man who came a couple of years ago.

1056
01:47:21,670 --> 01:47:25,270
that was an additional element that I just want to keep top of fine of additional things that we want to bring in terms of red parks,

1057
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:32,485
but I'm really happy that we're moving forward with this project. >> yeah. To answer that question,

1058
01:47:34,285 --> 01:47:36,010
and is mr. Washington who came, he did a really good job of doing that.

1059
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,655
this was specific to these five elements, which was submitted to the texas parks and wildlife department.

1060
01:47:47,215 --> 01:47:51,175
from my standpoint, we also look at master plans. We have a priority list that we use that as our bible.

1061
01:47:58,225 --> 01:48:00,610
what the citizens rank. I will tell you that, unfortunately,

1062
01:48:02,440 --> 01:48:05,050
in ours skate park, did not. Now, I do hear chatter online. Every once in a while.

1063
01:48:08,005 --> 01:48:11,590
I don't have social media, but I do have people that tell me that we do have people that still bring up the skate park.

1064
01:48:14,860 --> 01:48:18,670
it's out there. We're aware of it. It's just in the ranking system. I don't know if it even ranks in the top 20.

1065
01:48:21,115 --> 01:48:24,990
I don't want to say it doesn't, but I'd have to go back and look. >> very good. Any additional questions for mark?

1066
01:48:27,970 --> 01:48:31,740
we go. Councilman simons. >> who who would run this mark?

1067
01:48:34,420 --> 01:48:36,805
would it be us or the why? >> we we would run it.

1068
01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:39,480
tennis courts like this. It's not a tennis center,

1069
01:48:43,555 --> 01:48:45,535
so four tennis courts. Really, I think, and I've had a conversation with david earlier last week,

1070
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,120
I think we try to get as many pickle ball courts as we can. I think we would go a six.

1071
01:48:53,845 --> 01:48:53,845
that is more of a self-paced type complex where

1072
01:48:58,765 --> 01:48:58,765
we may internally in house do just a reservation system.

1073
01:49:03,940 --> 01:49:06,565
we wouldn't charge any money for that initially, unless we saw it as an opportunity for revenue,

1074
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:10,390
which does happen, but we would probably just do a reservation system of some sort.

1075
01:49:16,510 --> 01:49:18,715
>> how would they get in? >> it'll be open. It will have lights.

1076
01:49:22,405 --> 01:49:25,180
at curfew or whatever to, probably 10:30, we would have those lights would turn off,

1077
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,810
so, but they would be open to the public. >> any additional questions? Seeing no,

1078
01:49:34,570 --> 01:49:36,880
I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve by council member gag hardy. Do I have a second?

1079
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:40,960
second by council member donovan brandon. Let's go and vote.

1080
01:49:49,950 --> 01:49:53,485
that passes unanimously as well. Thank you, council. Thank you staff. Next up.

1081
01:49:56,410 --> 01:50:00,010
consider resolution authorizing the city manager her designee to enter into an amendment to the ground and tower lease agreement with

1082
01:50:03,310 --> 01:50:06,460
new singular wireless pcs llc for cellular equipment located at the water tower at 537 bedford road.

1083
01:50:11,380 --> 01:50:13,780
give you assistant city manager karen riggs. >> good evening, mayor and council.

1084
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,360
normally, this item would be on consent, but based on some history, I didn't think you guys had ever seen anything like this before,

1085
01:50:21,850 --> 01:50:25,525
so I just wanted to put it on new business so we could have a brief conversation. This is an existing lease.

1086
01:50:27,490 --> 01:50:27,490
basically, cell companies lease space from us to put their equipment on water towers,

1087
01:50:33,010 --> 01:50:35,530
or sometimes it's just a cell tower equipment. It could be sometimes in a park,

1088
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:40,630
it can be on fire station, property, things like that. We currently have 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 current lease agreements. This one is up in 27.

1089
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,350
they like to get ahead of it, because if for some reason, a city chooses not to renew it,

1090
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,550
that gives them ample time to find additional space somewhere else so that they can still serve their customers.

1091
01:50:57,490 --> 01:51:00,820
that's why it's a couple of years ahead before it expires. This is just a renewal.

1092
01:51:02,605 --> 01:51:06,370
we did another 25 year renewal with five year increments. This one had 15% rate escalations.

1093
01:51:10,540 --> 01:51:12,175
we negotiated a 10%. They were trying to come at me with a lowering their rent altogether.

1094
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,055
I said, no, absolutely not. It's not how we operate. We kept the rent flat for five years,

1095
01:51:24,010 --> 01:51:26,260
and then we did a 10% escalation. We do currently have one lease agreement that does have

1096
01:51:28,810 --> 01:51:32,485
a 10% lease rate escalation built in as well. It didn't seem too far out of the norm.

1097
01:51:35,050 --> 01:51:37,885
just for some historical purposes, there are anywhere between 10-15 is pretty norm,

1098
01:51:42,205 --> 01:51:44,800
so 10% is not abnormal. That's why this is on new business,

1099
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,675
cause I just figured you guys had never seen anything like this before. I wanted to bring it. If you had any questions,

1100
01:51:51,730 --> 01:51:53,875
I'd do my best to answer them for you. >> how much are we charging them for currently?

1101
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:56,920
>> right now, they pay $4,372.52 a month.

1102
01:52:03,190 --> 01:52:05,950
just to give you an idea between all of our current tower rentals for budget purposes in our current year budget,

1103
01:52:10,690 --> 01:52:14,500
we're expecting $272,400 in revenue. >> wow. I was not aware that we had that

1104
01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:20,860
much allocated to leases for these type of things. It's good to know. Thank you.

1105
01:52:23,515 --> 01:52:25,255
any additional questions? Yes. Guess what we're done with brennan.

1106
01:52:27,835 --> 01:52:27,835
>> thank you, mr. Mayor. Is this a competitive thing where we could not approve it,

1107
01:52:33,970 --> 01:52:36,370
and somebody else would give us more? >> they could go somewhere else.

1108
01:52:38,590 --> 01:52:41,070
>> got it. >> yeah. >> which is probably more likely that it'll happen.

1109
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:45,580
>> probably. >> I'm assuming that, the competition for that.

1110
01:52:49,105 --> 01:52:50,875
I don't know if there is much. >> if you think about what they're trying to do is serve their customers so they could

1111
01:52:54,460 --> 01:52:58,090
stay here and we could get revenue or they could go here, still serve their customers,

1112
01:52:59,650 --> 01:53:02,110
but it may not be in our city limits. It may be in the city next to us.

1113
01:53:03,745 --> 01:53:07,710
it's one of those things. >> very good. I'll not hear your motion to approve by council.

1114
01:53:12,415 --> 01:53:12,415
second by council member gagliardi. Let's go ahead and vote.

1115
01:53:20,730 --> 01:53:23,695
>> that passage names as well. Thank you very much. >> thank you.

1116
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:25,680
>> item number 8. Consider resolution authorizing and casting

1117
01:53:31,165 --> 01:53:33,415
of city bedfords allocated votes for appointment on the terran appraisal district board of directors.

1118
01:53:35,905 --> 01:53:38,335
give to city manager andrea roy. >> mayor, I think this is almost a tag team two of us.

1119
01:53:42,700 --> 01:53:45,025
but just quick recap. We are here tonight again to cast our vote for there are two open positions,

1120
01:53:51,490 --> 01:53:54,985
available positions with the terra appraisal district board. You have your choices of michael alfred,

1121
01:53:57,430 --> 01:54:01,020
wendy burges, eric rel, and said. I think over the last few months,

1122
01:54:03,340 --> 01:54:06,655
I've shared information on all of those candidates with you. Then tonight at your place,

1123
01:54:08,440 --> 01:54:10,090
I did provide a list of the current voting tabulations as of

1124
01:54:13,075 --> 01:54:13,075
01:00 today as to what entities have cast their votes.

1125
01:54:17,140 --> 01:54:21,100
of the 2,000 votes, we get 11. Perspective wise, it's probably not something we would want to split apart.

1126
01:54:27,145 --> 01:54:29,590
then I will let you all discuss potential candidates somewhere you'd like to place those 11 votes.

1127
01:54:33,205 --> 01:54:33,205
>> absolutely. Yes. Just for counsel,

1128
01:54:37,675 --> 01:54:41,665
I'm sure you probably get them the emails as well from our resident and current tad board member, fred campos,

1129
01:54:46,030 --> 01:54:49,750
who is vehemently against the reappraisal plan that we are currently under, where they are not appraising properties every year,

1130
01:54:52,285 --> 01:54:54,160
but every two years, which led to us to raise taxes this past year.

1131
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,780
I know we are all against that. His recommendations, based on that,

1132
01:55:04,135 --> 01:55:04,135
were for wendy burges or eric kryl.

1133
01:55:08,425 --> 01:55:11,665
you may remember that eric kryl has come to some of our meetings and spoken and both those candidates are against that reappraisal plan.

1134
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,735
I foresee that they would be good allies to have on the tad board, to give him some backup.

1135
01:55:21,145 --> 01:55:21,145
I'm hopes that both of them can win as we can get back to appraising values yearly.

1136
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,610
with that, you can see that currently, miss burges is at 492 in second place,

1137
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,360
and eric kryl is at 5:52, and mr. Mike alfred is 476.

1138
01:55:40,930 --> 01:55:40,930
again, we're trying to get the top two candidates elected here.

1139
01:55:45,410 --> 01:55:49,335
if we want that reappraisal plan completely done away with, we need mr. Kryl and miss burges to pull ahead. Yes. Counsel.

1140
01:55:57,565 --> 01:55:57,565
>> we vote for eric kryl and wendy burges 11 votes two different positions.

1141
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,475
vote in each position. >> eleven total. Vote for wendy burges.

1142
01:56:09,190 --> 01:56:11,635
wendy burges, just to skip and get her ahead. Do I have a second from that?

1143
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,475
ma'am. That's fine. I have a second. To allocate all 11 votes from cosmerargo to miss burges,

1144
01:56:21,265 --> 01:56:22,825
second by customer gang. Yes. Mayor pro tem dawkins.

1145
01:56:27,475 --> 01:56:27,475
>> thanks mr. Mayor. I know that this is for the current positions,

1146
01:56:32,290 --> 01:56:35,725
but then we're going to have another position open up. Right? >> from my understanding,

1147
01:56:37,870 --> 01:56:41,400
that one is going to be appointed by the board. Mr. Blaylock, who's currently on the board, from my understand,

1148
01:56:46,210 --> 01:56:48,100
he's running for texas house, which then leaves a vacancy, and of course,

1149
01:56:50,590 --> 01:56:53,155
he waited too late to be a part of this. We can't vote on this as an entity,

1150
01:56:54,940 --> 01:56:57,580
but they were going to have to appoint within themselves to fill that position. Thank you. Very good.

1151
01:57:01,690 --> 01:57:01,690
with that, we'll go ahead and vote.

1152
01:57:10,980 --> 01:57:14,110
that passes unanimously. Thank you, counsel. Thank you staff. Moving along, two reports.

1153
01:57:21,070 --> 01:57:23,875
I think we all in christmas spirits. It's time. It's time for christmas spirits.

1154
01:57:29,730 --> 01:57:29,730
I hope we take a picture after all of this. Oh, my gosh.

1155
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:34,870
look at this. Very good.

1156
01:57:41,190 --> 01:57:45,190
oh, this is hilarious. Anyways, next year, we will have one from brin and andrea.

1157
01:57:53,550 --> 01:57:53,550
pass down. There's not another one.

1158
01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:22,590
we are definitely getting in the spirit here. I know.

1159
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,510
for council member, mayor reports, I do have some things I'd like to discuss on november 25.

1160
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:35,140
I had the opportunity to be at the hrv chamber for the ribbon cutting for dr. Snowball,

1161
01:58:41,650 --> 01:58:44,335
which operates heating and cooling, hva systems within our community.

1162
01:58:46,945 --> 01:58:50,140
just what a lovely family owned business. They need our support exponentially.

1163
01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:53,740
they told me they had a rough year starting their business,

1164
01:58:59,365 --> 01:59:01,975
and there's a lot of competition out there. But wow these are the type of family and type of business we need to support.

1165
01:59:06,865 --> 01:59:10,270
if you have any issues or any questions with heating or cooling, definitely check out dr. Snowball.

1166
01:59:12,190 --> 01:59:14,455
we definitely need their support. Also, on december 1st,

1167
01:59:16,705 --> 01:59:20,590
had mayor's council during that meeting, we had an update from fort worth city,

1168
01:59:24,370 --> 01:59:26,245
as well as guest speaker, police chief of fort worth, eddie garcia,

1169
01:59:28,810 --> 01:59:32,620
shared with us his plans for the department, and we ragged on him a little bit for not stealing some of our police officers.

1170
01:59:38,140 --> 01:59:38,140
but he had some good information about recruitment and retention,

1171
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,065
about being competitive with benefits and showing that support for your police department.

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I can say, just from this counsel, from everybody, as soon as he said it, he's like,

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the first number one thing is support your police department, I said, b, we got that.

1174
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we absolutely support our police department. That was a good information.

1175
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I'd also like to talk about during that meeting, there was a health update, which I always find interesting.

1176
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the flu cases are down this year as opposed to last year.

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the only problem is the new strain the h3n2 mutated.

1178
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if you got a, a shot vaccine for that,

1179
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still going to be effective, but it may not be as effective because of that mutation.

1180
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does that mean you don't get the vaccine? No, please, it's still recommend to get the vaccine,

1181
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see the gentleman over here to my right faculty for that.

1182
02:00:38,845 --> 02:00:38,845
also, covid in the county is almost virtually nonexistent, according to the record.

1183
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that is a nice, positive one to go away with. There is an uptick in the norovirus,

1184
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which is stomach bugs. If you get that, stay home,

1185
02:00:56,850 --> 02:00:56,850
get better because that is a very contagious one that we don't want around.

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then also last thursday, had the pleasure of being part of

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the hb chambers leadership heb session with lunch with the mayors.

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got to share, why I ran for office, a little bit about bedford,

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its history, the challenges we face, as well as talking about the opportunities and giving a good example of

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our strategies here at the city of redeveloping bedford and giving campus west as a good example there.

1191
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it was a good meeting there. I think mayor pro tem dawkins, you're in that class,

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and you probably share more about the economic side of things, but all in all had a good time with the chamber there.

1193
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last and certainly, not least. Last friday, december 5,

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we had our annual christmas tree lighting. Oh, my goodness. What an amazing event that was.

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I want to say, personally, a big thank you to the whole whole city,

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because this doesn't take just one department. It is a whole city effort to pull off this thing for

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communications to go out there and get everybody out there, I think we had around 5,000 people show up to this event,

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to our police department for providing security, to our parks department for setting everything up.

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what a tremendous event. I had people at my daughter's school coming up to me saying how

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great that event was and just starting starting a new tradition.

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I remember a year ago, sitting in andrea's office when we discussed moving

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02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:36,475
it to generations park, and I thought to myself, oh, boy, if you're going to move it to generations park,

1203
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you better make it the best tree lighting ever. I just got to say mission accomplished.

1204
02:02:44,890 --> 02:02:47,185
great job team, great job city, a fabulous event, looking forward to expanding it even more next year.

1205
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with that, also want to wish everyone happy holidays.

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merry christmas, of course, spend time with your families, enjoy this time.

1207
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we don't have another meeting for, like, over a month. Five weeks til next year.

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use this time, spend it with the ones you love, and we're going to come back full swing for the new year.

1209
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thank you all very much. We will go with boards and commissions animal shelter advisory.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. I want to thank you to the friends of the bedford animal shelter for all they are doing,

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and councilwoman, amy sel for starting that and getting that going.

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we want you to remember that the weather's going to turn cold, so to make sure that you take care of your pets that they're inside that they're warm,

1213
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and that donations are always welcome at the shelter. They're taking donations right now,

1214
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so anything that you want to do, they'll take, and we just appreciate the job that they're doing over there this time of the year.

1215
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also, that this thursday is the hb chamber of commerce annual luncheon,

1216
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and they have harmony from trinity will be singing. It'll be a great time, and look forward to everybody who's going to come out to that.

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that's this thursday at texas star. >> very good. Beautification advisory board.

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>> thanks, mr. Mayor. Before I go into the advisory board updates,

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I did want to highlight with leadership heb being part of the 2026 class.

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and so the economic tour of cities, I feel like bedford did a great job setting the standard. Bedford went first.

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02:04:26,215 --> 02:04:26,215
andrea and christian did get on the bus and give us swag

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02:04:30,670 --> 02:04:30,670
for the city of bedford and laid out a map of all the economic development opportunities.

1223
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:37,030
also pointed out, like, things are going on like utility upgrades with the bedford road and brown trail.

1224
02:04:42,850 --> 02:04:42,850
we visited the hot spots like stone gate development, campus west.

1225
02:04:49,210 --> 02:04:52,135
because we first, we get to talk about hrb, and we talked about the challenges of cheeks barger and things like that.

1226
02:04:56,530 --> 02:04:58,255
again, setting the standard, where I feel like the other cities did it differently.

1227
02:05:01,825 --> 02:05:05,770
that's some of my feedback that we probably should be standardized, but I do want to give kudos to andrea and christian of really making bedford look good.

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I'm proud to be part of the city. >> absolutely. >> I'm proud of the council with that representation.

1229
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in terms of beautification, we technically did not meet in november.

1230
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but the advisory board has gotten

1231
02:05:27,130 --> 02:05:27,130
really great feedback about the trees that were planted adjourns park.

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going into next year, the board is going to have a concerted effort in having

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a tree planned just given that that is something that this community cares about. That concludes my report.

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02:05:43,195 --> 02:05:46,660
>> good. Next up, library advisory board. >> thank you, mr. Mayor.

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we want to say a big thank you to everyone who supported a bedford christmas.

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the library foundation raised more than $9,000,

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02:05:59,035 --> 02:05:59,035
and that money will go to children's literacy initiatives to fund reading and stem kits.

1238
02:06:06,625 --> 02:06:06,625
there's been a change that will start in january people who

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02:06:11,260 --> 02:06:11,260
want to have access to one of our very popular study rooms,

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we'll need to have a library card to check out a study room.

1241
02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:24,505
then of the library board. I do have a couple of things that I'm going off topic.

1242
02:06:27,475 --> 02:06:28,360
>> go ahead. Sorry. >> congratulations to ld bell's band.

1243
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only were they in the macy's parade. They were on the today show. I was amazing.

1244
02:06:37,015 --> 02:06:38,545
that's so exciting. I'm so proud of not only the band,

1245
02:06:41,035 --> 02:06:43,330
but all the people who supported them. I know it's a monumental task for the boosters.

1246
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:49,090
then this is not in bedford, but it is open to the people in bedford.

1247
02:06:53,260 --> 02:06:53,260
for children or adults who have sensory issues,

1248
02:06:59,380 --> 02:07:01,690
there's going to be a gentle nut cracker, and it's the first one that we know of in north texas.

1249
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:05,080
it is going to be aimed at people who might

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02:07:10,225 --> 02:07:10,225
need accommodations that are different from a normal population.

1251
02:07:15,115 --> 02:07:17,470
it's at 6:30 december 14, which is next sunday at im terrell performing art center.

1252
02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:24,790
it's a state of the art performing art center. The lights will go down to 50%.

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02:07:27,700 --> 02:07:29,620
the sound will be at 50%. If someone wants to get up and move, they may.

1254
02:07:32,500 --> 02:07:34,675
it's an opportunity for people to come. Even with small children who just want to wiggle.

1255
02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:39,160
it's okay at this one. It's north central ballet putting this on,

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and you go to the website to get tickets. I think it's $10. >> very good. Thank you so much. Parks and recreation.

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02:07:49,585 --> 02:07:49,585
>> thank you, mayor. I'd like to echo your appreciation of the job

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02:07:54,580 --> 02:07:54,580
that staff did this friday at the tree lighting ceremony. It's the best yet.

1259
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:01,555
it just amazing. The drone show, the whole nine yards was awesome.

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I'd like to thank the parks advisory board for coming out and manning the live reindeer station.

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02:08:10,375 --> 02:08:13,690
that line was super long all night long. But it was a great time, and they did a great job.

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02:08:16,690 --> 02:08:18,970
thank you to staff. Good job. >> absolutely. Senior advisory board.

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02:08:23,365 --> 02:08:25,930
>> the board, nothing to report for that. But I unfortunately missed the tree lighting because I had to work at the pharmacy.

1264
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:33,280
but on my way home, I go up forest ridge, and it timed it about when the festivities ended.

1265
02:08:38,305 --> 02:08:38,305
the sheer amount of people at that park.

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02:08:42,595 --> 02:08:42,595
it looked like it was fourth. It was unbelievable.

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02:08:46,890 --> 02:08:46,890
I'm just so proud that the staff did an amazing job.

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02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:56,710
we are pulling from all communities at this point. That drone show. Come on.

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02:08:58,495 --> 02:08:58,495
that was amazing. Unbelievable. I'm glad we didn't cancel christmas. Thank you.

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02:09:05,290 --> 02:09:08,350
>> how could we? Look at us up here. How could we cancel christmas?

1271
02:09:10,105 --> 02:09:13,180
but no, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I met somebody who was from grand prairie and even mentioned.

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02:09:16,225 --> 02:09:19,015
I know they have their parade of lights, but they said from the city's perspective, he said, "you guys got nothing on grand prairie" I said,

1273
02:09:21,595 --> 02:09:25,555
oh, my. I'll take it. >> he lives really in grand prairie. >> what's that? >> does he really live?

1274
02:09:26,425 --> 02:09:28,795
>> yes. I'll take it. I will take compliments where we can get him. Very good.

1275
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:32,320
thank you very much. City manager and staff reports. You took off your hat.

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02:09:37,540 --> 02:09:37,540
>> it was hurting here [laughter] I have nothing to report [laughter]

1277
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:54,190
>> very good. Next up, we have executive session. We have pursuant to section 551072 and pursuant to section 551071,

1278
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so we will be back. Afterwards, we're taking a picture with all this.

1279
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:14,365
we are back from executive, and there is no action to take.

1280
02:10:16,225 --> 02:10:20,020
reaching the end, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. >> mayor kogan, I would love to move to adjourn this last meeting of the year.

1281
02:10:24,895 --> 02:10:27,640
>> motion to adjourn from council gangli. Second. By council member parker.

1282
02:10:29,230 --> 02:10:32,500
all in favor. Say aye. >> aye. >> ayes have it. >> we are officially adjourned at 9:00.

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merry christmas and a happy new year.