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[snorts]

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You're nice, Sharon.
She ain't coming.

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» She told me that she might be here to
be. Yeah.

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» Okay, we're good to go. [clears throat]
>> You good to go?

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» Yes.
>> Good evening.

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» Good evening.
>> Welcome to the Beach Common Council

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meeting. Uh today's date is August 3rd,
2026. My name is James Kaufman, mayor.

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I'll defer to the clerk treasurer
>> and roll call. We'll introduce

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ourselves. Starting on my right,
>> Chris Duffer, council at large.

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» Dan McMillan, councelor at large.
>> Samantha Stratton, clerk treasure.

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» Ryan Mackkins, council district 2.
>> Craig Wy, city attorney. Avis Fryson,

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councilwoman, district 4.
>> Mike, council district 5.

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» Thank you. Um, I know counciling said
she cannot be here tonight. Has anybody

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spoken with council?
>> Yes, I did. He's going to try to make

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it, but he said he doubts that he will
because he's so busy with school getting

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ready to open.
>> Okay. Okay. [clears throat] Uh, please

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stand for the pledge of allegiance.
[laughter]

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you. Up first, we have invocation
call pastor Bailey. Um like to please

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remember the uh the residents of
diplomat apartments and prayers this

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evening. Um special thanks IFD uh Beach
Grove EMS and the BGPD for their uh

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efforts over the weekend. Um and if
anybody needs any help, please route to

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the reach out to the city. Beach Grove
will help help in any way possible. So

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please get keep them in your thoughts
and prayers. U Pastor Billy,

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» thank you Mayor. Good evening, council
members.

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» Good evening,
>> ladies and gentlemen of the community,

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if you'd be so kind as bow your head,
please. [snorts]

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Lord, most loving father in heaven.
Lord, we pause in the midst of all that

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we do, Lord. Lord, we clear our minds
and we still our spirit, Lord, that we

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might hear your wisdom from above. Guide
us down here below as we handle this

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business before us today, Lord. We ask
you, Lord, to bless our mayor, bless our

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city leaders, bless the council members,
Lord. Bless our community members with a

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peace and joy that comes from knowing,
Lord, we're in your hands, Lord. And we

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ask you to bless the officers, Lord,
each and every day, each and every

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shift. Bring them home safely. Put a
hedge of protection around them and let

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them feel the love of this community
that we appreciate what they do. In

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Jesus name I pray. Amen. Amen. [snorts]
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» Thank you. We have uh several special
presentations this evening. Um first I'd

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like to call up Dr. Laura Hammock, Beach
Grove City Schools for a presentation.

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[snorts]

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» Oh no.
>> Sorry.

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Hi Dr. Good.
our brand new schoolboard member that I

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just tasked with passing out our
handouts. Just [laughter] drop them in

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front of everyone. Just needed that to
say that for the record.

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» Just fine.
>> That's wonderful. Thank you, Madison.

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[laughter]
>> I don't think the camera shows that

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area.
>> Oh, good. And I just noted her.

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[laughter] That was wonderful. So, uh,
council members, just we wanted to make

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sure that you had a copy of the
presentation that we'll be rolling

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through here. Um, and thank you,
Madison. Sweet thing. That was awfully

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kind of you. [laughter]
So, um, mayor and, uh, our members of

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our common council, I just want to thank
you for giving me this time tonight. I

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clearly know that your agenda is quite
full, and I'm just grateful for the

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opportunity to speak with you about an
issue that will shape not only Beach

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Grove City Schools, but the future
strength of our entire city. I'm joined

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this evening by several members of our
school community who are here to also

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show their support. Uh many of our
schoolboard members are here. We have

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our president Janice King, our vice
president, Tara Wolf. You all can stand.

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Our uh members Brian Downer. Oh, they're
not. They are my bosses, so they can do

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whatever they want. [laughter]
Madison West. And we also have two

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wonderful members of our school
community. Kelly Herren, who is one of

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our parents, and Mr. Bruce B uh who has
uh joined our group to ensure that folks

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understand all about what we're going to
talk about this evening which is our

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believe in our future campaign. Thank
you [applause] so much.

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So I'm here tonight speaking
specifically as your superintendent of

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our schools, but I'm also here as your
partner. The city and the schools serve

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the same families, the same taxpayers,
the same neighborhoods, and the same

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future. There is no version of Beach
Grove in which the city thrives while

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its schools struggle. And there is no
version in which the schools reach their

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full potential without a strong city
behi beside them. In the few minutes

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that we have together here this evening,
I will work to make five things

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unmistakably clear. First, why an
operating referendum is needed. Why

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Beach Grove is affected so severely.
what the district has already cut, what

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voters are and are not being asked to
approve, and why this decision matters

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to the whole city, including residents
who do not currently have children in

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our schools. At the conclusion of my
presentation, I welcome your questions

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and I look forward to further
discussion.

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So, let me begin with the clearest
possible description of the proposal.

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» [clears throat]
>> We are not asking the community to

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approve an additional operating
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On November the 3rd, voters will be
asked to replace the most recent

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operating referendum approved in 2020.
The current referendum will expire and

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if approved, the proposed referendum
would take its place. There will be no

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overlap.
We are not building anything with this

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referendum. We are not adding a new
program. We are simply asking voters to

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support continued funding of four basic
existing services.

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Everything related to transportation,
school buses, school bus drivers,

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monitors, fuel maintenance,
facility maintenance and utilities,

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custodial and operational services, and
student safety, including our four

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school resource officers.
As you can see, those are not extras.

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Those are the operating foundation
beneath every classroom in our district.

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It's easy to talk about the city and the
schools as though they are two separate

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institutions, but our residents don't
experience us that way. A family

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deciding whether to buy a home here
considers the schools. A business

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deciding whether to invest here
considers the quality and stability of

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the community. A senior citizen wants
property values protected. Our police

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department provides our school resource
officers. Our facilities host community

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events. Many of our students eventually
become the employees, homeowners,

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parents, and civic leaders of Beach
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We do not have empty buildings sitting
unused. Every school serves a purpose

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and we have consistently repurposed our
spaces to meet the evolving needs of our

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students, our families, and community.
Hornet Park, for example, now houses our

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early childhood center, a facility
serving three, four, and 5year-olds with

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a waiting list that is bursting at the
seams. For the third year, we qualify

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[clears throat] for and provide
universal free breakfast, lunch, and

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dinner opportunities, ensuring that all
of our students have access to

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nutritious meals. Our buildings also
serve as gathering places for athletics,

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the performing arts, public meetings,
and community traditions. Events such as

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our community Thanksgiving dinner and
Believe in Beach Grove community meal

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serve hundreds of people at no cost
thanks to generous sponsorships.

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But perhaps most meaningfully, our
schools are places where Beach Grove

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comes together during its most difficult
moments. Just last weekend, we hosted

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two memorial services.
One for a former student and another for

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a current student who recently passed
away after a brutal cancer battle.

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Their families chose our schools as the
place to celebrate their lives because

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our buildings are more than facilities.
They're part of the heart of this

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community.
Beachgo City Schools is not only an

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educational institution. It is also one
of our city's most important employers

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and economic anchors. Our 292 employees
earn paychecks. They support local

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businesses, contribute taxes, and
participate in the life of our

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community. Their economic impact extends
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And we believe that the partnership runs
both ways. The city helps make our

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schools safe, connected, and proud. The
schools help make Beach Grove a place

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where families choose to live,
businesses choose to locate, and

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residents choose to stay.

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So, home values are influenced by many
factors, and I would never claim that

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schools alone determine them, but the
evidence and the lived experience of

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communities across the country are
clear. School quality is an important

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part of residential demand, neighborhood
stability, and long-term property value.

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Since Beach Grove voters first approved
an operating referendum way back in

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2009, the median home value in our
community has risen from approximately

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$92,300
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that growth has many causes, but it
would be difficult to argue that

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allowing our schools to become less
safe, less reliable, less

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well-maintained, and less competitive
would strengthen the city or protect

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homeowners.
So whether someone has a kindergartener,

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graduated from Beach Grove 40 years ago,
or never had a child in our schools,

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they have a stake in the strength of the
local school system. Strong schools help

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protect the investment every homeowner
has made in this city.

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So to understand why we need a
referendum, it helps to understand one

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distinction in Indiana school funding.
State dollars which are separate from

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any funding derived from property taxes
support what happens inside the

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schoolhouse. So that's everything.
Teachers, principals, instructional

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staff, curriculum, any classroom
services come from those state

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resources.
Local property taxes support school

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district operations, buses, utilities,
custodial services, maintenance, and

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safety.
Beach Grove City Schools problem is that

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our operations fund receives almost no
meaningful revenue from the regular

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property tax levy. We are predominantly
residential. Most homesteads are

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constrained by the 1% constitutional tax
cap. [clears throat] And we have the

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lowest assessed valuation per student in
Maring County. When the tax caps prevent

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collection, that money does not arrive
later. It is simply not collected.

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The comparison is stark. Beach Grove is
projected to receive roughly $320 per

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student in net operations fund levy
revenue. The state average is $1,96

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per student. IPS is projected at
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per student.
That does not mean that those districts

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are doing something wrong or something
right. It shows how unusually

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disadvantaged Beach Grove is by the
structure we operate within.

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When all school districts are ranked
according to impact,

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Beach Grove City Schools is the most
significantly impacted school district

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in the state of Indiana.
No other school district experiences

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this level of imbalance.
I'm sure that we can all agree a Beach

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Grove child does not require one sixth
of a safe building, one/tenth of a bus

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or a fraction of a school resource
officer. The responsibilities for

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serving a school community are the same.
The bottom line is that local revenue

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capacity is not.
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So before asking voters to consider a
continued support, the community has

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every right to ask what we have done
ourselves. And the answer we believe is

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a great deal.
So, I just started serving my sixth year

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as superintendent of schools here in
Beach Grove. Very quickly in my first

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year, I realized that we were in
significant financial distress.

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Together with the board, we committed to
doing the work that our community

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deserved.
just [snorts] like we would do in our

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own households. When we realized that
our budget was upside down, we had to

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reduce our expenditures and find ways to
increase our revenue through innovative

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solutions that did not burden taxpayers.
During the last 5 years, we have

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eliminated six district level
administrative positions, including both

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assistant superintendent positions and
four director positions.

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reduced more than 30 certified and
classified positions primarily through

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attrition. We re renegotiated
long-standing contracts and changed

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service models. We reorganized staffing
and operations, pursued grants,

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partnerships, and alternative revenue to
offset local spending, and did all of

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that while lowering the school total tax
rate by approximately 22.5%

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over 5 years, bringing it finally this
last year below $2.

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Those were not paper reductions. They
were real positions, real contracts, and

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real changes in how we operate. They are
a major reason the replacement rate

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before voters is not higher. If this
were simply a matter of finding

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efficiencies, we would solve it through
efficiencies because we've made them. If

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it were a matter of unchecked
administrative growth, the facts would

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show growth. Instead, we eliminated six
central office administrative positions

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and no longer employ any assistant
superintendent.

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We've already made significant and
difficult reductions and we will

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continue to manage every dollar
responsibly. But an additional $4.5

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million loss every year would be
devastating and could not be absorbed

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without fundamentally changing the
services and opportunities we provide to

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our students and families.

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The wording on a ballot can make this
proposal sound as though an entirely new

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tax is being placed on top of what
residents pay now. And that is not what

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is happening. The referendum approved in
2020 is currently in place. The proposed

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referendum replaces it. The old and new
referenda will never be collected at the

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same time. The proposed maximum rate is
57 for $100 of assessed value. Current

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projections show that compared with the
current operating referendum, a median

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homeowners change is expected to range
over time from approximately $1.25 more

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per month at the highest projected point
to a monthly savings as assessed values

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change.
Across the eight-year life of the

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proposal, the median homeowner is
projected to pay about $42 less in total

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than under the current referendum
trajectory.

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Now, it's important for you to
understand every property is different,

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which is why we've created a calculator
using the homeowner's own assessed value

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and deductions. I want residents to use
their actual information to calculate

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the impact. Our Beachg Grove City
Schools website has a banner on the

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homepage that will take you to a
comprehensive page illustrating the

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facts of the referendum. Click how much
would this cost me and you'll be able to

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get right to that calculator.
The referendum funds are dedicated to

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these four operating areas and these
areas only. safe and reliable student

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transportation, building maintenance,
grounds, utilities, and repairs,

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custodial and operational services that
keep every school clean and functional,

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and student safety, including our school
resource officers. Again, no new

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building, no expansion, no hidden
construction project, simply the

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recurring services that are in use
today.

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So, if voters do not approve the
replacement, the current referendum

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expires and beginning in 2029, the
district will need to reduce

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approximately $4.5 million annually.
I do not say that to frighten anyone. I

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say it because withholding the
consequence would be less honest than

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stating it plainly.
There is no $4.5 million reduction plan

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that leaves the daily experience of
students and families unchanged. At that

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scale, every part of the organization
would face pressure. Transportation,

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staffing, safety and security,
maintenance, custodial service, student

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supports, academics, and extracurricular
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Quite frankly, we would not look like
the Beach Grove City schools that our

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community knows today.
We've already reduced significant number

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of positions and restructured our
operations. $4.5 million in reductions

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would be visible service reductions felt
by families and ultimately by the city.

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A reduction of that size would not stop
at the schoolhouse door. When

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transportation is reduced, working
families feel it. When buildings and

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grounds receive less care, neighborhoods
feel it. When student supports and

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safety systems weaken, the broader
community feels it. And when families

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lose confidence in their schools,
enrollment, housing demand, workforce

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readiness, and community identity can
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But conversely, every time the city and
schools work together, Beach Grove

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becomes stronger. Our police officers
know our students. Our students learn to

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serve their community. Our families
gather in our facilities. Our graduates

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become the people who run local
businesses, coach teams, care for

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neighbors, and raise the next generation
here. This is not the school district

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asking the city to solve a school
problem. [clears throat] It is one

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public institution asking its closest
partner to understand a shared community

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concern.
For more than a century, Beach Grove has

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chosen to operate its own schools and
shape its own future. that local

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identity matters. Decisions about Beachg
Grove children should continue to be

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made by Beachg Grove people who know and
love this community.

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So, all of a sudden, I got old. I just
completed my 30th year as an educator. I

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don't know how that happened. I have
served in districts over those 30 years

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with far more resources than Beach
Grove. And I can tell you with absolute

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certainty, children from wealthier
communities are no smarter, no more

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talented, and no more deserving than the
2700 children who walk through the doors

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of Beach Grove City Schools every day.
Our students deserve safe buses, clean

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schools, well-maintained facilities, and
adults who protect them. Our homeowners

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deserve a school district that uses
resources carefully and helps preserve

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the strength of their investment.
Our city deserves a school partner that

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brings families opportunity, pride, and
energy into Beach Grove. [snorts] The

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district has reduced costs. We have
eliminated positions. We have

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restructured services. We have also
lowered the school tax rate. And now we

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are asking voters, not the
administration, not the school board,

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and we're not asking the council, we're
asking voters to decide whether to

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replace the current referendum and
continue the essential services that it

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supports.
Mayor and council members, I just thank

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you so much for listening, for the
partnership you provide our schools

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every day. I welcome any questions that
you might have, including the difficult

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ones. I promise I'll answer them
directly, honestly, and respectfully.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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» Doctor, um could you uh go back over the
unequal revenue uh capacity? Yeah. So,

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our uh lower level is is that because of
state funding?

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» It's a great question. Uh so state
funding actually supports what we call

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the education fund and that that's
genuinely a check that we receive from

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the state every month [clears throat]
electronically and that those resources

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are allowed to support everything inside
a school building. This disparity is

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related to what we call our operations
fund which is the fund that you have to

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use for all of those essential services
like transportation, custodial um uh

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maintenance and then school resource
officers. So the state essentially says

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use this fund to to pay for these things
and use this fund to pay for these

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things. So because the operations fund
is funded by property taxes, when you

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get to a space where you might hit those
caps, then those dollars are never

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realized. And that's exactly what
happens in this slide. So, a Beach Grove

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kid generates $320 per kid compared with
an IPS kid who generates $3,25

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per kid. And so, that's where the
discrepancy lies, that operations fund.

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» So, we're talking about cap on the
property taxes is where we're at.

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» That's exactly right.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Yes.
So, what would that 300 uh increase to?

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So that actually stays the same because
what an operating referendum does is

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that it's a separate fund now. So you
have an operations fund that's

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generating the 320. So effectively the
balance of what we if you pulled up the

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Beach Grove City Schools 1782 notice our
budget order. It would show that Beach

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Grove should be receiving about $4.5
million in its operations fund. We

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receive little to no revenue in that
fund. So the operating referendum is the

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catchup of what should be in that
operations fund. It's its own separate

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entity paying for the things that are in
the operations fund.

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» And so by 2029, we won't be able to
survive it.

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» So 2029 is it would be devastating to a
school district this size to sustain

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$4.5 million of reduction.
Laura is the uh

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» Wow.
>> the people that are out of district.

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» Yes.
>> Do we get the same dollar amount or is

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it more or
>> Great question. So, if a student is a

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transfer student, they don't live in
Beach Grove, but they are attending

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Beach Grove City Schools. Uh those
students are actually what we call a

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value ad because they are bringing
education fund revenue with them. And uh

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so every student generates the same
amount of funding in Beach Grove to fund

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that education fund. So even if you
transfer in, you're getting that amount

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of revenue. What doesn't happen with a
transfer student is that the operations

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uh local property tax that that student
might uh sort of earn if we're talking

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three, let's use $320. A Beach Grove kid
generates $320. If they are an IPS kid

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who's coming to Beach Grove, they do not
bring this $3,25

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with them. But how that works is that
operations need to be in place no matter

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what. We have to heat all of our
schools, have to cool them, you know,

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have to have lights on. So what ends up
happening is that they're a value ad

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because they add to our ability to have
teachers, pair of professionals, support

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staff curriculum because it's that
education side of the house from the

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state.
>> Okay. Have you guys done anything to

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lobby the legislature? Because
>> that's the entire problem with schools,

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with the cities and municipalities.
>> Yes.

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» And uh they're not listening.
>> Councilman, I really appreciate this

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question. Uh we are I think I'm probably
best described at the state house as a

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gnat. uh because I just don't go away
and I keep staying in people's faces. Um

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I I am so frustrated by the situation
that Beach Grove City Schools finds

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itself because this is a a structural
system that has been designed and and

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really quite honestly I believe quite
intent unintentionally we are the

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victims of of an analysis of um
a system a model that benefits some

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school districts but then there are also
losers. I've had really incredible

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conversations with state leadership um
who have said to me uh Laura uh this is

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not right, this is wrong, what Beachg
Grove experiences is not fair. These are

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all words that have come leadership uh
at the state house and they have

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promised that they are working to solve
this problem. Um, I am so hopeful and we

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we continue uh to keep lobbying at the
state house to ensure that um

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equity is realized for Beach Grove
taxpayers uh so that the burden uh

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doesn't necessarily need to be carried
in the way that it currently is.

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» Thank you.
>> I think we should say thank you for the

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cost-saving measures that you've already
taken and implemented. I I think we

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should say thank you.
>> Kind of you

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» for sure. Thank you. It's a gift to
serve as your superintendent. I can't

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tell you how much I love this community,
this city, these people. It's just a

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very special place. Uh fourth day of
school today. Um students were fed. We

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didn't leave any kids on the bus. Like
it [laughter] was good. Yeah. Yeah. It's

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a win. Absolutely. So, thank you all.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for your

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time. And truly, if you have any
questions as followup, don't hesitate to

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reach out. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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[applause]

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Thank you, Dr. Hammock, for that
presentation. We appreciate it.

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[clears throat] Um, up next, council, we
have an RDC update, RDC update. Um, and

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the Civotas group will be here to
discuss the uh comprehensive plan that

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was recently approved uh by the council
and the RDC and the implementation of

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that plan. So, like to call up RDC
President Matthew up and then we'll

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introduce some of us.

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Evening council. Uh as I promised to
Councilman Matkins, I will be short. Um

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we uh RDC is working um through
impleaining the plan. Uh this month we

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will be adopting new um funding
applications uh with helps. We are

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working at making multiple ones to fit
city once I have an ask as opposed to

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private businesses as opposed to a
bigger project as to opposed to a um a

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community grant. So that is ongoing. Um
we will have that final vote um at our

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August meeting and then shortly
thereafter we'll get that all up on the

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website. Um and Civas will be working on
a plan to let um the folks know such as

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the Chamber of Commerce um cuz we're
really going to try and make something a

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little bit more usable for uh private
business owners, those who want to

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either come and invest in the city or
reinvest if they're already currently

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here and seeing what we can do again
under applicable law. Uh but for the

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most part, I'm here to introduce our new
consultants uh from Civotas, Jack Woods

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and Pete Olsen. Um we signed the
contract with our consultants a number

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of months ago. Uh they jumped right into
it. Uh are have gotten the lay of the

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land and where we're at and continue to
gather that information. Uh we have been

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me and the mayor have been meeting um
with these two gentlemen um every two

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weeks uh to go through things to plan
for upcoming RDC meetings um and discuss

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discuss approaches on how to redevelop
uh certain areas of the city for which I

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will not go into. You've heard me talk
about them more than once. Uh but

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without further ado, I will turn it over
to Jack and to Pete to introduce

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themselves, talk about what they're
doing, anything else they want to uh let

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you know. Um and then they will also
mention that we are having a training in

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September um for which uh we the RDC and
our consultants want to invite you all

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to uh to attend. Um so we can all
understand what powers we have as an RDC

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uh what redevelopment tools we have
according to law. As you are very much

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aware we have a lot of new members on
the RDC. We've had some turnover this

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year. Um, and for those who have been on
the RDC for a long time, me, um, it's

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always good to have a refresher because
again, I'm an election attorney. I don't

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do redevelopment work, uh, full-time and
so even even I need a refresher on what

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the law says I can and can't do um, on
occasion. So, Jack and Pete, I'm going

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to turn it over to you.
[clears throat]

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Thank you, Matthew. Uh, good evening,
council. My name is Jack Woods. I'm the

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director of economic development for
Civotas Strategies. I'm joined by my

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colleague Pete Olsen. He's our director
of community development. Um, Civotas is

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a division of the various groups. So, if
you see my quarter zip and it says

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Veritus, it's it's the same as Civotas,
but essentially we work with cities and

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towns across the state of Indiana um
helping them implement plans such as the

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economic uh and redevelopment plan that
the city of Beach Grove has recently

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passed. Um, we're really excited about
this opportunity and have enjoyed

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working with Matthew and the mayor over
the last two months or so and uh look

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forward to continuing in in this role.
As Matthew pointed out, our first focus

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has been um helping to uh fine-tune the
RDC funding application um as it exists

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today. uh we've wanted to introduce some
additional uh I guess flexibility uh or

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maybe structure depending on how you
look at it. Um but have multiple funding

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applications that um address private
businesses, the city, nonprofits and so

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forth. Um and look forward to rolling
that out here uh in the next month or

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so. Um so that's that's been a big
priority for us. Um, the other big piece

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of this is just looking at that economic
development redevelopment plan and

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prioritizing projects with Matthew and
Mayor Kaufman and understanding where we

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start. Um, there's a pretty long list of
opportunities that we're excited to to

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work through. Um, but obviously some of
those are more impactful to the city

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than others. Um, so we've been working
on that and looking at things like the

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CSX property, the hospital, um, bigger,
larger scale projects that have that'll

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have a big impact. That's where we want
to start. Um, [clears throat]

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one of the other things that I think we
bring to the table that will be helpful

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in this effort as the redevelopment team
for the city and the redevelopment

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commission is relationships with
developers. Um, we've already started

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having conversations with developers and
just talking about some of the projects

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that are highlighted in the
redevelopment plan. Um, specifically

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some of the infill projects. I know
there was a focus on some of the bigger

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ones that I mentioned earlier, but I do
think there are some quick wins or

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lowhanging fruit that can be
accomplished uh on some of those infill

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opportunities such as town homes um or
infill single family opportunities. And

419
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there are a few developers who have
already expressed interests and uh

420
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:44,399
potentially talking with the RDC and
Mayor Kaufman um about those projects.

421
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,559
So after we get through these funding
applications, I think most of our focus

422
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:52,399
will be on that more uh I guess
traditional economic development lens of

423
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:56,080
engaging developers and potential
businesses that are interested in coming

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to Beach Grove and and participating in
redevelopment that aligns with the uh

425
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with the plan that was passed this year.
Um, I I guess the one thing I'll

426
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:07,600
mention, Pete, before I turn it over to
you to talk a little bit more about what

427
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,679
we've been working on, to Matthew's
point, we do have uh an RDC training

428
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,159
that will occur at the September
meeting, which is currently planned for

429
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:20,000
September 24th. Um, again, we think
that'll be great to just go over best

430
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,960
practices about what redevelopment
commissions do. We do know there are a

431
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:26,559
few new members who I think that'll be
helpful for. Um, and then Matthew also

432
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:30,480
mentioned, I think, just a refresher for
members that have been a part of the

433
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:34,240
commission for a longer period of time.
uh that refresher could still be

434
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:38,640
helpful. So, we would like to invite you
to come and observe that meeting um and

435
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:44,480
uh be present for that as well on the
24th if you're able and would like to.

436
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:50,240
Pete, you want to add a few words?
>> I think uh Matthew and Jack probably hit

437
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:54,720
most of the high par uh high parts. Just
uh kind of a as a background, I spent

438
00:33:53,039 --> 00:34:00,320
better than 25 years in municipal
management. Uh most recently 20 up in

439
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:05,200
Yorktown helping with their RDC. So, as
we've been looking at this funding

440
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:09,919
application, understanding how uh those
long-term effects can help uh throughout

441
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:15,919
the community, obviously the the school
makes a a very uh good case of of what

442
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,760
is happening in your community and how
that affects everything. I think one of

443
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,520
the things uh that the superintendent
mentioned that I I I think I firmly

444
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:27,200
believe that we firmly believe both from
a a professional side is that you can't

445
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,320
have a strong community without strong
schools. You can't have strong schools

446
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:35,679
without a strong community. So, we'll be
looking at how we can uh further enhance

447
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:40,079
those relationships if they're funding
applications for those kinds of

448
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:46,720
organizations or even in a deeper
meaning how additional students coming

449
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:53,040
in through infill of housing or uh just
additional opportunities of jobs. Uh

450
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:56,480
obviously as SEA1 is starting to uh poke
through in the next few years, funding

451
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,760
is going to look a whole lot different
and that'll be something that we

452
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:03,440
continue to talk about with the RDC
members and make sure that we're giving

453
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the best benefit to the entire community
when it's all said and done.

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Any questions for either Jack or I
tonight?

455
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,680
» Did he say what time the training was on
the 24th?

456
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:20,079
» Uh yes. So our meetings start at 6. Um
probably will start closer to 6:15. We

457
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,200
do have to do a very short meeting to
approve our docket and the minutes. Go

458
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,400
through all the statutory stuff, making
sure we're like paying their contract

459
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,800
and approving minutes for the public
record. That should take no more than 10

460
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:36,560
minutes, probably five, but would say
closer to 6:15 on the 24th of September.

461
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:43,680
» We'll be there. Thank you.
>> Uh Pete, one question. Um so um being up

462
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:48,560
there in Yorktown a little bit smaller I
think even than Beach Grove uh things

463
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:54,240
turn out pretty good some of the
implementations that you've done there.

464
00:35:50,400 --> 00:36:00,160
» Yes. Yeah. So we um so so I I'll tell
this history for for you all. I was a

465
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:05,280
client prior to being a a uh consultant
with with Civitas and or Veritis. Um we

466
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:10,320
ended up doing some pretty significant
downtown redevelopment. In fact, um I

467
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,640
think your police station looks an awful
lot like our town hall because we had a

468
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:18,800
number of police officers come and visit
prior to construction and and looking at

469
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,520
it and everything else. [clears throat]
Um that project continues to go to be

470
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:27,280
ongoing. We had we continue to have an
ongoing relationship with the town of

471
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:32,079
Yorktown and helping them and doing some
of the same things. These are things

472
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:38,320
that both Jack and I love to do. uh we
find communities finding innovative ways

473
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,280
uh to to make progress is a is a good
opportunity and so we look forward to

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doing that here in Beach Grove.
>> Wonderful. Thank you.

475
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:49,995
» The cost of you guys doing this was this
part of the initial I think it was

476
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:55,280
85,000
[clears throat] or are you guys at a

477
00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:02,480
additional cost?
Um so we had budgeted $150,000 for this

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:07,040
year in our funding plan um for our as a
professional services contract for the

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00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:10,880
consultants. Uh because we enter the
contract in the middle of the year and

480
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,520
there is a desire to align that that we
renew our contracts every year because

481
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:20,079
again all of us on the RDC are one-year
terms. We do not know um if we'll be

482
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:25,119
reappointed until the end of the year.
the mayor as well as your appointees. Uh

483
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:29,920
you may want to change track. Um and so
um the contract is I I don't have it in

484
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:32,880
front of me and as you know my joke is
I'm a lawyer because I'm bad with

485
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:38,160
numbers. I don't remember what the
number is off the contract is definitely

486
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:41,599
below 150,000. Um but we will be
bringing up their contract. We're

487
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:46,480
probably going to amend it to increase
it for another year for the calendar

488
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:51,119
year 2027. Um, but that will be decided
closer in the fall when we built our

489
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:56,640
funding budget and that'll be around
October. Uh, but it's set at a maximum

490
00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:00,240
150,000. It is way below that. What that
number is, I do not remember, but I will

491
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,839
email the council a copy of that
contract again. Um, just so you have for

492
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,240
your records and so I can answer your
question um, offline. Sir,

493
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:12,480
» I appreciate that.
>> Of course. And with that, um I will just

494
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:17,920
also say that um we will have a new
member of the school board um who is one

495
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:22,079
of our is our non- voting adviser as
provided by statute. Uh for a long time

496
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:26,160
that was Rock Chalice, but um Rob has
since left left the school board. Uh

497
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,119
Brian, I think it's Have you been
appoint? I don't know if the school

498
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,000
board has a plan this time. Usually as
Brian is swapped in, but once they

499
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:37,760
figure that out, we look forward to
having them cuz we on the RDC also look

500
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,920
forward to helping um the schools. Um I
second everything that Dr. Hammock said

501
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:47,119
in her presentation. Um and having grown
up in Northwest Indiana, I know um from

502
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:52,240
up there that uh in you have to have
good schools to have a good town or a

503
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,480
good city. But with that, there's no
other questions. I will let you get back

504
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:59,119
to your evenings and your long agenda.
Thank you, council.

505
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,200
» Thank you, Jack. Thank you, Pete.
>> Thank you.

506
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640
» Thank you.

507
00:39:06,236 --> 00:39:13,359
[clears throat]
>> Thank you. Um, up next, uh, we're

508
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:17,599
getting into uh, budget time. Um, so FOP
86, reach out to me uh, to get a couple

509
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,160
minutes of your time this evening. Like
to call up Captain Frankle uh, say a

510
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,040
couple things. Captain.
>> Yes, sir.

511
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:27,359
» Evening, council.
>> Good evening.

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00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,359
» Most of you know me by now. We've
negotiated a few times with the city and

513
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:34,720
in budget time. We are at the end of our
three-year contract with the city and

514
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,200
we've met with the mayor multiple times
this year on our contract for the future

515
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,480
year or years. And like I said last year
with budget time and where we're at

516
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,520
financially as a city, I want to be
transparent and I've promised you guys

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,920
that we will be transparent through the
entire process. Like I said, we've be

518
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,320
been negotiating with the mayor and I
want to give you my information to take

519
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:57,760
your questions and concerns. I've wrote
down my personal cell phone number for

520
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:02,079
you guys to call me. I'll stay after the
meeting tonight. Like I said, every year

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00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,280
we've never asked for anything that we
don't believe the city can afford. We

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00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:09,520
obviously are proud to be Beach Grove
police officers and we love representing

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00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,880
the city, especially through this year.
I know it's been been a lot this year,

524
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,200
and you guys have shown your support to
us. Um, so like I said, I promised last

525
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:20,400
year at budget time that I would be
willing to take your questions and

526
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,200
concerns as we negotiate with the city.
So I just wanted to provide you with my

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00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:27,119
information and let you know you can
call me or email me anytime or talk to

528
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,040
me before or after the meeting. Um, but
I think we should be wrapping up

529
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:32,320
negotiations in the next month. Thank
you.

530
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,880
» Wonderful.
>> Thank you.

531
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:39,720
» Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you.

532
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,720
» Thank you.

533
00:40:40,558 --> 00:40:46,453
[laughter]
Thank you.

534
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:50,000
Appreciate you, sir.
[clears throat]

535
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,119
» Thank you, Captain Franle. Um, and I do
have uh scheduled to meet with the 416

536
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,760
this week, so we'll start those
negotiations and start that

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00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,640
conversation. Uh, they're here as well
if you want to talk to them after the

538
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:02,720
meeting, and I'm sure their door open
door is open as well. [clears throat]

539
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,640
Uh, up next, last special presentation
is Regions Bank. Um, Bill Harris is here

540
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,480
to speak about cards for department
heads. Um, I don't know if the treasure

541
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,800
wants to start off or introduce Bill,
but we're good to go.

542
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:15,280
» Yeah. So, Bill service
>> has been with the city for a while,

543
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,880
worked with us as a relationship
manager. And I know I mentioned a couple

544
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,880
months ago about the need for getting
each department head a card rather than

545
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,040
us all sharing one card with my name on
it. Um just for a multitude of reasons.

546
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,400
So Bill is just here to kind of like
tell you what that would how that would

547
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,160
look and answer any questions.
>> Yeah, thank you Councilman um for

548
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:37,599
allowing me to come again. Bill Harris,
relationship manager. U been fortunate

549
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,880
to work with the city. Uh been with
regions for 11 years and have the

550
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:45,280
fortune to really work with the city
since that time. So, uh, met with James,

551
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:49,119
um, when he was a treasure and then
obviously moving on to Samantha, um,

552
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:53,599
kind of as as she said. So, one of the
things that we've kind of been talking

553
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:57,599
about, um, for for a while now is, um,
what we call kind of our commercial card

554
00:41:55,359 --> 00:42:03,040
and being able to basically provide
cards, um, where the clerk treasurer

555
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:07,440
would have the ability to assign cards
um, to department heads um, and then

556
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,280
obviously if if they wanted to use those
cards um, to give out to their

557
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,119
employees, they'd be able to do that. Um
there's other functions that would be

558
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:19,119
able to to to utilize as well. Um one of
the things that is brand new is called

559
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:23,200
like a mobile wallet. So one of the
things you would be able to do is you

560
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:27,359
could temporarily provide a card that
the individual would be able to use on

561
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,280
their cell phone or smartphone, excuse
me. Um so that basically they could use

562
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:36,079
that and then once they were done using
it that would just go away. So, it kind

563
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:41,920
of helps from uh the standpoint of being
able to really um as we have shared more

564
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:45,920
or less being able to really control the
cards um so that they're just not

565
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:50,480
floating out there in the ether or
basically getting lost by employees that

566
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:54,000
are using them. So, um with so many
people having smartphones, it's just

567
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,280
real easy to push them out. Once they're
done, they're done and then basically

568
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,880
they're they're removed. So, there's a
variety of different things that that

569
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:05,359
can be utilized also on the reporting
side. Um, so as as the clerk treasurer

570
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:11,599
mentioned, the nice thing is is
basically she would be able to go in and

571
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:17,040
basically um you know uh what I like to
say is is she assigns cards, she can set

572
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:21,760
limits as to how much can be set spent
on the card. She can also set different

573
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:26,720
codes to where the cards can be used.
Um, one of the things that I like to say

574
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:30,880
is for instance, if someone um is using
a card to get gas, they would only be

575
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,319
pay at the pump. if they tried to go
inside the station and use the card, it

576
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,839
would come back declined. So again, you
can set these controls on it so that

577
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:42,000
basically they can only be used how you
would like to use them. Um and then with

578
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,560
those controls, it can be only used at
um entities that they would choose to

579
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,040
be. So um again, kind of the same thing.
If you had a card that was really only

580
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:56,240
to be used for fuel, um if you tried to
go to um what I'd say Walmart or Lowe's

581
00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,160
or anywhere and try to use the card, it
would come back decline because

582
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:04,560
basically the MIT code that is assigned
to that vendor um would not match and so

583
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:08,160
it would come back decline. So there's a
lot of safeties that that are

584
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:13,599
incorporated with that that can be put
in. Um and the other thing that that we

585
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:17,440
have shared is um you know obviously if
you get to a certain spend limit um

586
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:21,200
there's uh what we like to call in the
banking industry a revenue share but

587
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:25,040
what most people look at it as a rebate.
So you get a certain spend um and then

588
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:29,119
basically once that spend and then
basically you would get a reagate back

589
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:35,680
on those funds that's normally paid
annually. So um is there anything else

590
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:38,880
that I'm missing or what can I answer
for anyone? The other thing that's

591
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:42,720
really uh well I don't know what the
word is for me um enticing for me with

592
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,960
the codes it will save us a lot of time
on the back end of getting receipts

593
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,119
because did do you guys have a way to do
that?

594
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,920
» Yes. So again, we have a thing that's
spend Clarity, which is free. Um, and

595
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:58,079
basically that would allow folks that
um, basically, you know, once they they

596
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:03,280
purchase something, they take a picture
of that receipt on their smartphone, it

597
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:07,839
it um, then uploads to the the system
and then basically it can be assigned to

598
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:12,400
the code that whatever that card may be
assigned to. So it really helps from a

599
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:16,240
reconciliation. Um, and kind of as the
clerk treasure said, you're not chasing

600
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,960
down individuals for receipts. So, you
know, everyone more or less has a

601
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:22,160
smartphone. They take a picture, they
upload it, and then they're done.

602
00:45:20,901 --> 00:45:24,880
[snorts]
>> You still want to keep the hard copy,

603
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,839
though, right? If you can.
>> Yeah.

604
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:32,960
» Yeah. Oh, yeah. We recommend that. Yeah.
I mean, yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

605
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,720
» What's the cost of this service?
>> There's there's no cost. I mean, you

606
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,800
know, so spun clarity is free.
Commercial card, there's no cost to

607
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:46,079
that. So basically um once we get set up
the only cost that you would have uh

608
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:50,640
councilman is if you lost a card and you
need it expedited. So again you there

609
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:54,079
would be a fee for that expedited card
but if you know someone lost a card it

610
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:59,200
was stolen. If you went through the
private channels there's no there's no

611
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:02,480
fee to that. Okay.
>> Any other questions for Bill? No.

612
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,720
» All right.
>> Great. Thank you very much for your

613
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,720
time. Appreciate it. Thank you sir.

614
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,720
Thank you, Bill. I appreciate it.
[clears throat] Up next, we have uh

615
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,079
that's the end of special presentations.
We have committee reports, financial

616
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:27,440
report, treasure straten.
>> All righty. Good evening. Um 2027 budget

617
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:30,400
dates. As we approach bud budget season,
please make sure to save the dates for

618
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:35,280
the two budget meetings in October,
which will be on October 5th and 19th at

619
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,880
7 p.m. Um, the MVH additional
appropriation. Um, in July, my office

620
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:43,359
prepared and published the required
notice for an additional appropriation

621
00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:46,560
of $756,65.70
to the motor vehicle highway fund for

622
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,400
the Hannah Arlington roundabout
projects. These funds were received

623
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,319
specifically for this project, but were
not included in the city's original 2026

624
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,680
budget. So, council approval is required
before they can be spent. This does not

625
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:01,839
involve a new tax or the use of the
city's general operating funds. The

626
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:05,920
current bank balances are listed below
as of August 3rd, 2026. These totals do

627
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:12,760
not include all claims that were
approved earlier this evening. Bank

628
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,760
accounts city corporation 8,260,927.34.

629
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,720
Utilities 1,752,81961.

630
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:23,160
Criminal Investigation Fund $273,34610

631
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:28,280
RDC general fund bank account
2,728,3629.

632
00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:34,280
And then fund accounts, the general fund
is at $1,748,347.64.

633
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,560
Sewage utility fund
$514,82242

634
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,599
and the storm water utility fund is
$920,115.89.

635
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:52,480
respectfully submitted. Samantha
Stratton, clerk treasure.

636
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:58,160
» Thank you, clerk treasure. Any questions
or comments for the clerk treasurer?

637
00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:01,280
» So, we um the uh general ordinance
number four that we're going to hear

638
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:04,560
later on, [clears throat]
>> the funds are already

639
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,240
» Yeah. So, essentially, they changed the
processes on how they fund projects like

640
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:12,240
that. I think it's from the NO, but
essentially typically we send them

641
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:15,760
invoices and they pay it. They gave us
the money and we pay the invoices, but

642
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,560
without that being budgeted, I can't use
that money. Okay.

643
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,240
» So, we already got the money. We just I
just have to allocate it so I can spend

644
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:23,200
it.
>> Okay. So, that doesn't increase our

645
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,200
overall budget for the year.
>> It does.

646
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,200
» It's just basically we got a check and
we have to have a way to spend it.

647
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,400
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

648
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:34,319
» So, it the this is a a project awarded
by the Indianapolis Metropolitan

649
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:39,359
Planning Organization. Um, prior years
before 2026, as the court treasure

650
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,480
stated, they paid the 80% um and those
funds never were received by the city of

651
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:46,240
Beach Grove um or the municipality that
that received that was awarded them. So,

652
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,839
but they changed that to this year. So,
we actually received the funds um and

653
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:54,160
then we have to budget accordingly to
submit it. So, um they changed that last

654
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:58,880
year. Um and that's why you see that
tonight. But that project is nearing

655
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,720
completion though. I was told today that
um that the the deadline for it to be

656
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:06,160
completed is I think August 14th or
something. Um so, if you haven't been

657
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,839
out there, it's uh it's taking shape and
it's it's getting very close. So,

658
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:13,599
weather dependent will hopefully be
ready soon.

659
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:17,040
» I do have one question. I hate to ask,
but with all this rain, how are we

660
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:19,839
looking on the sewer and
>> so far so good. I don't like that we got

661
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,480
two and a half inches of rain in one
day.

662
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,440
» Um, but I don't know that bill yet. So,
we'll we'll see. But we're doing okay.

663
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:29,599
Our new bill um that we just got today
for not last month, the month before is

664
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,880
148,000. So, that's pretty standard.
>> Okay. Wonderful. Thank you.

665
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:36,880
» We got five inches in my yard.
>> I was [laughter] going to say, yeah, we

666
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:39,440
had about four and a half Saturday. So,
>> that was a lot of water.

667
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,319
» A lot of water.
>> Okay. [clears throat] Um, up next is

668
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:49,760
reading of minutes. You have the council
meeting minutes dated July 6th, 2026.

669
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,559
Um, up for approval this evening. Any
questions or comments?

670
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:55,920
» I have a comment. I'm sorry, counselors.
Um, the minute section of the approval

671
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,680
of minutes from last time, I did not put
the counselor's name as in. So, I

672
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,864
believe it was Duffer and Matkins. So,
you'll see I have a placeholder there,

673
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:08,480
but I will fix that after approval.
[snorts]

674
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:14,480
I would like to um make an amendment to
the the minutes, sir.

675
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:18,720
» Uh page two under public comment,
there's two paragraphs that have to do

676
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:24,559
with uh Manny Singh and Donnie Moore
House. Um [clears throat] the second

677
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:29,599
paragraph, the last
uh two sentences where it starts, "No

678
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:35,040
binding action was taken. Council
members individually expressed varying

679
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:39,040
levels of support for continued city
cooperation subject to legal

680
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:44,960
environment, financial, and public
impact review. I would like to strike

681
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:49,760
all of that and replace it with
councelor Duffer made a motion for a

682
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:54,559
non-binding resolution to state how each
of the counselors felt about supporting

683
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,880
Mr. Singh and his project and the city
working with them to obtain the proper

684
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,960
paperwork. The city attorney and the
clerk treasurer were against this

685
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:07,680
non-binding resolution and stated that
each counselor could take a poll on how

686
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:12,800
they feel about the subject. The poll
was taken and councelor Duffer stated he

687
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:19,599
was in favor of helping Mr. Singh. Mr.
Mil Mr. McMillan was in favor. Councelor

688
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Lampin had concerns about the paperwork
and wanting to make sure that the proper

689
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:29,760
legal authorities had addressed the
situation before she voted yes or no.

690
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Councelor Matkins abstained, secondary
to not enough information. Councilors

691
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:40,960
Himmigorn, Frierson, and Ernest were in
favor. The final vote total was five in

692
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:44,240
favor, one abstension, and one needed
more information.

693
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,559
» You will have to email that to me.
>> Pardon me.

694
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,640
» You will have to email that to me if you
don't mind.

695
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,960
» Yeah. Give this email.
>> Yeah. Or I can take it. Either one. I'll

696
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,720
give it to you.
>> Okay. Perfect.

697
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:58,319
» Any other questions?
If not, entertain a motion to approve

698
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,880
the common council meeting minutes dated
July 6th as amended.

699
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:05,359
» I'll make a motion to approve them.
>> Second.

700
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:07,200
» All those in favor say I.
>> I.

701
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:12,400
» Those opposed?
>> Motion carries.

702
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:16,599
Up next, public comment. Craig.
>> Yes. Uh Robin Stewart.

703
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:26,240
» Okay. Um, [clears throat] Gary, I can't
read your last name, but Is it Gary?

704
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:30,680
» Yeah, there you go. Mhm.
>> Yes.

705
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,680
» Gary, come on up.

706
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,640
» I'm just up here cuz I heard about
they're wanting to raise the taxes on

707
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,240
automobiles.
>> Real quick before you start,

708
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,359
» Yes.
>> can you just state your name and your

709
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,079
address? My name is Gary E. Cllingan
Smith.

710
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:53,599
» Okay. And then you have three minutes.
>> Pardon me.

711
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,119
» You have three minutes.
>> Three minutes. Well, I'm just kind of

712
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:05,200
curious why they want to raise it on us.
A bunch of us down here are just retired

713
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:10,000
um senior citizens and I feel like that
we're already being badger with our

714
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:18,000
taxes and everything else. And I'm kind
of upset about wanting to raise

715
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:22,520
our $25 for automobiles for roads and
roads all look pretty nice around here.

716
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,880
» I mean, I don't know what to say. It
pretty much

717
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,240
» I know we're going to go over that more
in in a minute.

718
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,920
» Okay. I mean, this conversation, but now
anyways, I'll just sign that thing and

719
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,920
you
>> Yep.

720
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:38,400
» brought my name up. So,
>> okay.

721
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:41,200
» All right. Appreciate it. Yeah. Like she
said, we will be going over that here

722
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:46,920
shortly. Thank you.
>> Yeah,

723
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,920
» Pam Stellard

724
00:53:51,152 --> 00:53:53,172
[clears throat]

725
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:04,240
Pam Stallard, 711 Churchman Avenue,
Beach Grove.

726
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:09,599
Um, I know you, pardon me, already voted
twice on the whale [clears throat] tax

727
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:14,720
and tonight you're supposed to vote a
third time on the wheel tax. [laughter]

728
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:20,480
I [clears throat] would urge you to
table this

729
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:25,839
until we get a better understanding of
what the Indianapolis City Council is

730
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:31,839
going to be doing. Uh, there's a lot of
confusion out there. I've talked to a

731
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:36,800
lot of citizens and uh nobody is coming
up with the same response about what

732
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:43,280
this is all about. Whether we're going
to be double charged once by the county

733
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:48,720
and once by Beach Grove. So we have a
combined fee or if it's going to be

734
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:55,040
separate or if it's only going to be the
25 from Beach Grove. So, there's an

735
00:54:52,160 --> 00:55:00,960
awful lot of confusion still out there
and I think the meeting for the

736
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:07,280
Indianapolis City Council is tonight and
they'll come up with a final decision

737
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:13,040
hopefully. So perhaps if we can table
this for tonight and bring it back up

738
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:22,000
again at next meeting, we might be
better off. Thank you.

739
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:26,319
Mayor, didn't you say that um the
the wheel tax assessments would not

740
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:30,000
stack?
>> That is correct. Yes. Um I think I was

741
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,599
mentioned the last two months that that
will not stack. So, um if we do not

742
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:37,119
implement our own will tax and we will
defer to whatever rate Indianapolis

743
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:41,119
chooses to implement. Um but if we do
pass our own, it will not stack. Um and

744
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:45,280
that's the same with the other uh other
cities across the state and their

745
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:50,079
specific counties. Um the before this
year you were they were stacked but this

746
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:55,839
year they were not. Um I I got an email
from um that was passed on to me from um

747
00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:00,880
actually Greenwood and they received an
email from Sydney Krasco um and it says

748
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:06,559
any new municipal wheel taxes that go in
effect after 123126 will not be stacked

749
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,280
with any county taxes. Um this means
that any residents of the municipality

750
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:13,920
with a new wheel tax that goes in effect
1127 and after would only pay the new

751
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,960
municipal wheel tax. Um, municipalities
that are unstacked from the county will

752
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:22,000
not receive any distributions from the
county will tax. First, for example, if

753
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:25,920
XYZ County had a county will tax and ABC
municipality adopted an ordinance today

754
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,640
for it to be in effect on 1127, the
municipal will tax would be unstacked

755
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:32,799
from the county will tax and the
taxpayer would only pay the municipal

756
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:36,640
wheel tax and that's it. So, but we can
get into that again a little bit later.

757
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Okay. Anybody else signed up, Craig?
>> No, that's it.

758
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,920
» We get [snorts] into it now then.
Anybody else like to speak this evening?

759
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:49,280
Okay, that [clears throat] is all the
public comments. Um, on to unfinished

760
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:54,240
business. Um, up third reading is
general ordinance number 3, 2026, which

761
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:58,160
is a will tax. Um, it has been read into
the record. So, um, I'd entertain a

762
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,440
motion to read it by title only this
evening.

763
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,599
» I'll make a
>> I'll make a motion to read it by title

764
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,839
only.
>> Second.

765
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,280
» All those in favor say I.
>> I. Those opposed? Motion carries. Court

766
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,520
treasure.
>> General ordinance number 3, 2026 is an

767
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:19,359
ordinance that amends chapter 39 of the
city of Beach Grove's code of ordinances

768
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,880
establishing a municipal wheel tax and
motor vehicle license excise tax and

769
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,960
creating the city's wheel tax fund and
the motor vehicle license excise cert

770
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:32,799
tax fund.
>> Thank you. Um number 3 2026 will taxes

771
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:36,400
on third and final reading this evening.
Like to have discussion or answer any

772
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,359
questions that you all might have. I
know that one of the biggest questions

773
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:43,119
we received was would it stack? um and
and that has been confirmed that it will

774
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,119
not stack. So um what the state
legislature did um in the last legis

775
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:50,400
legislative session was they decided
that um with community crossing grants.

776
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:55,119
So each year the city of beach grove has
applied for community crossing grants um

777
00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:00,160
awards and we've done that. I know I
handed out this documentation from um

778
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:06,400
director Cochran last time. Um we
received about $2.7 million in community

779
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:09,839
costing grant awards since 2019. um that
has uh basically in effect doubled our

780
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:14,079
paving projects in the city each and
every year. Um and and we're very

781
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,119
thankful for that from the state. Um and
those are the taxes that you all pay

782
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:21,520
each and every every day when you fill
up your tanks. Um so what the legislator

783
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,720
did, they said, "Okay, we we're going to
continue to have community cost and

784
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:29,280
grants. Um but in order to be eligible,
each municipality will have to um enact

785
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:34,400
their own wheel tax. Um and that is to
start out at a minimum of $25 per

786
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:39,200
passenger and $40 for commercial. Um, so
that is why that's being presented

787
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:42,240
tonight. Um, and in order to uh be uh
eligible for community costing grants,

788
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:48,720
it has to be done by September 1st of
this year in order to take effect in

789
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:51,839
January of 2027. Um,
so this is being presented at the

790
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:55,760
minimum. I know there's other
municipalities who are going higher. Um,

791
00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:00,000
we decided, we thought, you know, again,
it is tough to implement any tax. Um,

792
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,880
but basically this will this will mean
the money will stay here in the city of

793
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,440
Beach Grove and not go to the county.
and then disperse from there. So, it'll

794
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:10,140
stay in Beach Grove. Um, it'll go to
improve the infrastructure here in the

795
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,240
city of Beach Grove and the people
[clears throat] that live here.

796
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:17,839
» And if we do not do it, then we have to
go with Indianapolis. Right.

797
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:21,760
» Correct. So, if we do not implement our
own wheel tax, um, we will default to

798
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:26,319
whatever Indianapolis decides their rate
will be for Marian County. And also, we

799
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:30,240
will lose any, um, eligibility to apply
for a community crossing grant funds

800
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:35,920
because we do not have our own wheel
tax. So, um, if whatever Indianapolis

801
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:40,640
does or doesn't do, um, if we do not, we
will lose that that funding source. Um,

802
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:44,400
so, as mentioned earlier, we we just did
a a big paving project in the city of

803
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:50,000
Beach Grove. Um, the most substantial
part was Alton, um, and that was from

804
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:54,960
13th Emerson Avenue, um, 4th Avenue,
Albany to Bethl, 6th Avenue, Albany to

805
00:59:52,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Bethl, and Detroit Street. Um, about
1.48 48 mi um of road and we received

806
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:07,040
$487,000
uh from the community costing grant

807
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,839
fund. Um so without that half of those
roads would not have been done this year

808
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:16,559
because we just simply don't have the
revenues to do that.

809
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:20,319
And if we don't implement this by what?
1st of September.

810
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:24,319
» September 1st. So the 1st of September.
So um I know there are discussions about

811
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:28,079
the next meeting. The next meeting uh
the first Monday of September falls on a

812
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:32,559
holiday. So it'll take place on Tuesday,
September 8th, 2026. So that'll be after

813
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,839
the deadline. Um we have to get it to
the DMV to implement any changes. And

814
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:41,680
that's why they set that September 1st
date.

815
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:46,720
» Gotcha. And with Indianapolis and them
right now, the mayor vetoing uh their

816
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:53,440
$100 one, my understand if they get the
votes this evening to override the veto,

817
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:57,920
it will be at the $100, which if we turn
ours down and vote ours down, then we

818
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,599
would all be at the $100.
>> Correct.

819
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:06,079
» Um even if they don't do the $100, they
can resubmit it for a a different price.

820
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,720
It could be 75, it could be 50, it could
be whatever. still more than what we

821
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:13,920
correct.
>> And Indianapolis, you know, with their

822
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:19,680
multi-million dollar budget for roads,
$1 million match is not a big thing for

823
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:22,240
them. Our city, it's a huge thing. It it
will double everything that we can do

824
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,760
here.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]

825
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:32,640
» Um, Mr. Queensman, I I have to
respectfully disagree with the the the

826
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:36,319
roads. Um, the roads are not in great
shape. I do want to however say that

827
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:41,839
Emerson
is not our our road to take care of.

828
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:46,240
That is an Indianapolis road. We have a
couple here that is Indianapolis.

829
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:52,079
They're in terrible shape just like most
of the roads in Indianapolis. Um every

830
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:55,520
road you try to go down, there's road
construction. So hopefully a lot of

831
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,520
these are getting taken care of.
However, a million dollars just doesn't

832
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:05,839
go very far, especially when you're
looking at projects for asphalt and road

833
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:09,520
repair. Uh, you know, to to not have the
option of getting matched through the

834
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:13,200
grant, that that would really hurt us, I
believe.

835
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,160
» Mayor, can I make a recommendation?
>> Yes.

836
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:21,200
» It it seems like it would be the most
friendliest to the taxpayer to pass the

837
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:28,240
minimum tonight. So if this council
takes passes the minimum of $25 and

838
01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:33,280
Indianapolis passes is at 50, there's no
there's no stacking, right? Correct.

839
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:38,160
» So it's going to be $25. Um if we do
nothing and Indianapolis passes 50 or

840
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:42,319
100, then our our taxpayers get hit with
50 or 100.

841
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:46,079
» They will. Correct. Um and and we will
no longer qualify for the community

842
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:49,440
costing grant money. um we'd be bringing
a lot more revenue because you'd be

843
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,559
basically quadrupling the revenues that
are coming in now. Um but

844
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:55,760
[clears throat] we don't want to do that
and that's that's why we're presenting

845
01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:59,200
it at the minimum um just to still
qualify for that community crossing

846
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:03,520
grant money because you can do a lot of
lot of paving for $8 or $900,000. You

847
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,880
can't do much paving for half of that.
And that's that's what our fear is that

848
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:09,760
if we we aren't eligible for that
additional funding, someone else will

849
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,920
get it. We're still going to pay that.
We're still going to fill up at the

850
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:16,400
tank. We're still going to pay those
taxes. uh we just won't be eligible to

851
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:19,520
receive that, which which is kind of
kind of crazy to say, but uh because we

852
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,799
all pay them, but that's what the state
legislature decided to do. Um and that's

853
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:28,400
what they implemented for the cities and
towns across the uh state to implement.

854
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,839
» And you know, nobody wants to raise
taxes, but you know, I think the uh the

855
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:38,880
superintendent say her case did an
excellent job. We're getting hit on the

856
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:42,520
city side as well that we have to take
these types of measures.

857
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:51,680
So to uh Indianapolis is meeting tonight
and um one of the other counselors had

858
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:56,240
told me that they talked to one of the
city county counselors and that they

859
01:03:53,760 --> 01:04:04,240
were going to try to lower the amount
from 100 to 50 and maybe get that

860
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:09,599
passed. Um, so if uh we do not pass ours
for 25 then and they do pass theirs for

861
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:13,760
50, then
>> we would be assessed $50 uh instead of

862
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:19,039
25.
>> Correct.

863
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:25,039
» So, um I also asked our city attorney
and I said, uh what will happen if we do

864
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:29,920
not pass our wheel tax and Marian County
does not pass theirs either? and his

865
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:37,280
answer was the city will be ineligible
still for the CCMG matching uh road

866
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:43,039
grants or road matching funds uh moving
forward and until the city enacts a

867
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:47,599
wheel tax. Note that the CCMG funds have
accounted for half of all road paving

868
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:52,799
projects since the program was
implemented. In some the city's projects

869
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:59,680
would likely be cut in half each year
without CCMG funding. So, um I guess

870
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:05,200
we've got two choices. I think we talked
about tableabling it. Uh Pam asked us to

871
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:11,039
table it. That would require us to meet
another meeting yet this month uh and

872
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:16,240
for it to be advertised and uh and that
type of thing. And then we have the

873
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:22,400
suggestion from our city attorney to uh
um go ahead and pass it on third reading

874
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:30,079
tonight. And then if Marian County
doesn't do anything and uh we wind up

875
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:33,520
not [snorts] being in favor of it, we
can repeal it. Is that [clears throat]

876
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,440
» even though it's not till Monday?
>> Yeah, it's the 10th.

877
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:37,359
» It's the 10th. Yeah.
>> Oh, it is.

878
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:39,359
» Yeah, it's next Monday.
>> I thought they was meeting tonight.

879
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:44,160
Okay.
>> There switches around.

880
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:46,640
» They're uh having a a meeting amongst
that.

881
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:51,760
» A meeting for the meeting. Yeah.
>> Okay.

882
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:56,960
So, I don't know whether the other
counselors uh would want to wait and see

883
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:05,280
what Indianapolis does or whether they
want to pass an increase on third

884
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:09,599
reading and uh then uh
get the matching CCMG funds and go from

885
01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:12,880
there.
>> I'm not much of a gambler.

886
01:06:11,965 --> 01:06:17,680
[snorts and laughter]
Um, and just for the record, so I know

887
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:23,119
we said 2025, 2024 we received about
353,000. Um, 2023 was a big year. We did

888
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:26,799
a lot of paving that year. Mayor Buffley
did. Um, and that city council did

889
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,920
647,000
um, in funds from community crossing

890
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:33,520
grant, which is which is the the largest
we've ever applied for. Um, the biggest

891
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:40,079
paving project that we've ever done. Um,
and then about 351, 162, 350, and 333.

892
01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:45,119
So, um it kind of doubles at me right
around that $7 $800,000 um range of

893
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,720
paving each year. So, that's that's what
we're looking just to continue uh that

894
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:52,160
progress forward and continue to chip
away at our roads because they are

895
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:55,520
deteriorating. Had some hard winters and
uh you see those potholes and stuff. Our

896
01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:00,319
DBW does a great job filling those and
and keeping up ahead of those, but it's

897
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:06,400
difficult uh without that paving budget.
>> What other funding mechanisms are out

898
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:10,880
there? Uh outside of that, I guess we
none that I know of for for paving

899
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:15,200
specifically. Um you can do
intersections improvements. Um the safe

900
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:20,319
routes for all that we applied for
Emerson Avenue that's going to basically

901
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:24,400
uh repave and reconstruct that entire uh
thoroughfare. Um but outside of that, I

902
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:30,240
I'm not aware of anything um that we
could apply for for just standard uh

903
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:35,200
paving project updates. Um I know that
you can apply for safety and that's why

904
01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:38,720
you avenue um was awarded uh for the
intersections like the roundabout at

905
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:41,839
hand on Arlington. Um it's one of the
most dangerous intersections in the

906
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:45,200
county and that is why we received
funding for that. So we try and stretch

907
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:49,039
those out as much as possible but that
intersection can only qualify for so

908
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:53,839
big. So um I don't know of anything else
sir

909
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:59,359
» on the routes or [snorts] streets
whatever you want to call it is done by

910
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:05,440
Indianapolis. None of this community
crossing grants will be used for them

911
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:09,839
roads like Sherman Drive, Emerson.
>> Yeah. I mean, I I don't I would not

912
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,319
anticipate the city would be funding uh
those rehab and those uh those paving

913
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,359
projects though.
>> Well, [snorts] we've done it on

914
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:19,600
roundabouts that are not in beach.
>> Yeah, we have. But that was with the 80%

915
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:25,520
match from the NONDOT. So,
>> but I mean I think that needs to be put

916
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:30,560
into the minutes or the ordinance. Yeah,
I it so we we do a payment asset plan.

917
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:34,719
Okay. Um and that payment asset plan um
grades every road in the city of Beach

918
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,159
Grove. Correct, Tim. Um does that
include the city roads of Indianapolis?

919
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:42,400
» Yes,
>> they're graded in that as well. Okay. Um

920
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:46,239
but in the plan, it kind of goes forward
about five or six years for the next

921
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,159
five paving paving seasons and we do not
include the roads to Minneapolis. Um we

922
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,080
just try and keep up on the uh on the
mayor and the city county council to uh

923
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,799
incorporate those. They've they've done
a few of them in the past and we're very

924
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:59,040
thankful for that. Um there's a few
roads that are that are pretty rough

925
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,640
right now, but we're still in
communication with them. Um and hoping

926
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:05,799
to see some some work on those in the
coming years.

927
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:17,440
Any other questions or comments?
If not, I entertain a motion to approve

928
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:21,359
general ordinance number [clears throat]
3, 2026, bill tax on third and final

929
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:27,359
reading.
I'll make said motion to approve general

930
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:29,359
ordinance number three on third and
final reading.

931
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:32,159
» I second.
>> Okay. All those in favor say I.

932
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,600
» I.
>> I.

933
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,679
» Those opposed?
>> Nay.

934
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:43,120
» That is 421.
>> All right. General order number 3 2026

935
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:46,279
passes on third reading only. Thank you.
Thank you.

936
01:09:56,633 --> 01:10:01,920
» [clears throat]
>> All right. Up next, we have new

937
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:06,719
business. I' like to open up a public
hearing uh for general ordinance number

938
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:11,920
4, 2026, which is the NVH additional
appropriation on first reading only.

939
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,920
» All right. Additional
>> You want me to read it while you are you

940
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:18,000
doing that? Are you okay?
>> I can do that. Additional appropriation

941
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,800
ordinance number 4, 2026. Whereas it has
been determined that is now necessary to

942
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,080
appropriate money in excess of the
annual budget. And whereas the city of

943
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,360
Beach Grove, Indiana is a duly formed
municipal corporation within the state

944
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,800
of Indiana governed by its duly elected
mayor and council. And whereas the

945
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:34,320
council has the duty and authority to
maintain and allocate funds as necessary

946
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,840
to maintain the fiscal integrity of the
city and maximize efficiency. And

947
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,199
they'll therefore be affirmed that the
Beach Grove Common Council desires to

948
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:44,400
appropriate the funds listed below based
on the recommendation of the clerk

949
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:47,199
treasurer. Now therefore, it be ordained
by the city of Beach Grove common

950
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,480
council of Marian County that the
expenses of the taxing unit in the

951
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,239
following sum of money are hereby
authorized to be appropriated out of the

952
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:57,199
fund named and for the purpose specified
subject [snorts] to the laws governing

953
01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:02,789
the same and appropriated in the fund
listed itself. So requesting into the

954
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:04,809
motor vehicle highway fund $756,65.70.
[snorts]

955
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:11,920
Now it be affirmed that the common
council approves the appropriation

956
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:15,199
requested above. Now, be it further
affirmed, this ordinance only applies to

957
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:18,159
the fund listed above and no other
budget matter. Now, be it further

958
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,520
affirmed that this ordinance shall go
into effect immediately upon passage by

959
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:26,239
the common council attested by the clerk
treasur and signed by the mayor.

960
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:31,600
» All right, go ahead and close this
public meeting. Um, up for discussion.

961
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:36,320
Any comments or questions? Um, when we
received these funds in originally, did

962
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:40,000
they go into their own fund?
>> No, they got receded right now into the

963
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:43,399
general miscellaneous revenue. So
that'll just get appropriated from that

964
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,239
general miscellaneous into
[clears throat] NVH.

965
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:50,239
» So that's why this doesn't show what
fund it's coming out of and going into.

966
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,840
» That's probably my fault. It should say
uh the general fund.

967
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,719
» Okay.
>> Yeah, it just a miscellaneous revenue.

968
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:02,449
» So this is on first reading this
evening. Uh we'll do second and third

969
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:02,449
reading come uh September 8th. [cough]

970
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,840
» Any other questions or com? Yes. Any
other questions or comments? Entertain a

971
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:12,400
motion to approve general ordinance
number four, 2026. the additional

972
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:17,280
appropriation uh for NVH in the uh
roundabout at Hannah and Arlington.

973
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,760
» I make say a motion.
>> I'll second.

974
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,679
» All those in favor say I. I.
>> Those opposed.

975
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:29,360
» Motion carries. Thank you. Up next we
have general number 5 2026 um which is

976
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:33,679
for a new fund number 2260 on first
reading only. And this was another uh

977
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:38,480
new law that was passed by the
legislature um this year for uh

978
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:41,760
municipalities to implement. So, uh,
I'll let the clerk treasury read that in

979
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,719
the record, but basically any funds that
are received from permit fees in the

980
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,040
city of Beach Grove have to go in its
own fund separate from the general fund.

981
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:53,040
Um, and then to be, uh, expensed out for
specific duties and responsibilities for

982
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:56,480
that, uh, for the permit process. So,
clerk treasure.

983
01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:00,480
» Okay. Journal ordinance number 5, 2026
is an ordinance that establishes fund

984
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:04,159
2260, the building and construction
related fees fund to receive an account

985
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,159
for fees subject to Indiana code
36-7-2.3.

986
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:17,440
Whereas House Enrolled Act
10001 enacted as public law 7326 added

987
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:20,480
Indiana code 36-7-2.3
entitles limits on building and

988
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:25,120
construction related fees. Whereas
Indiana code 3672.3

989
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:28,320
applies to fees imposed by a city for
approval of applications related to

990
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:32,320
construction or reconstruction of
buildings or building of pertinances and

991
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:35,840
to zoning, development, subdivision,
classification or reclassification of

992
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,600
land including permit application,
inspection and [snorts] processing fees

993
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:45,040
regardless of the name given to the fee.
Whereas Indiana code 3672.3-3

994
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:49,920
requires fees assessed and collected
after December 31st, 2026 to m be

995
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:53,920
maintained in a special fund dedicated
solely to reimbursing the cost actually

996
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,280
incurred by the city relating to the
imposition and amount of the fees and

997
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,120
prohibits the money from reverting to
the general fund or any other fund of

998
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:05,040
the city. Whereas state examiner
directive 2026-1

999
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:08,880
directs cities and towns to deposit and
account for all fees subject to Indiana

1000
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:13,199
code 3672.3
in fund 2260 the building and

1001
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:16,640
construction related fees fund. Now
there excuse me. Now therefore it be

1002
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:20,560
affirmed that the Beach Grove common
council desires to establish fund 2260

1003
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:24,560
the building and construction related
fees fund as a special non-reverting

1004
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:27,280
fund of the city of Beach Grove. Now
therefore, be it further affirmed that

1005
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:31,280
the common council instructs the clerk
treasurer to establish fund 2260 and to

1006
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:35,600
deposit and account for all fees subject
to Indiana code 3672.3

1007
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:40,159
in that fund beginning January 1st,
2027. Now, therefore, be it further

1008
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:43,440
affirmed that money in fund 2260 shall
be used solely to reimburse costs

1009
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,960
actually incurred by the city relating
to the imposition and amount of fees

1010
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:50,880
deposited into the fund and shall not
revert or be transferred to the general

1011
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:53,679
fund or any other fund of the city. Now
therefore be it further affirmed that

1012
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:57,120
receipts and expenditures shall be
separately accounted for by each type of

1013
01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:01,199
fee and the clerk treasurer shall
maintain a subsidiary ledger detailing

1014
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:05,040
all revenue received by individual fee
source and dispersements from each

1015
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,040
specific fee source. The subsidiary
ledger shall be reconciled to fund 2260

1016
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,320
monthly and made available for review by
the Indiana State Board of Accounts. Now

1017
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,440
therefore be it affirmed that this
ordinance applies only to the

1018
01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:19,600
establishment administration of fund
2260 and does not itself establish,

1019
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:22,320
impose or change the amount of any fee.
Now therefore be it further affirmed

1020
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,920
that this ordinance shall go into effect
upon passage by the con council attested

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:31,120
by the clerk treasur and signed by the
mayor with applicable fees assessed or

1022
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:35,800
collected after December 31st 2026 to be
deposited and accounted for in fund

1023
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,800
2260.

1024
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:45,600
» All right. Any questions or comments?
>> Does this just apply to permit fees or

1025
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,280
like shelter rentals? Do they have to go
under

1026
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:52,880
» shelter rentals are still under the
parks. Um, so this is just like we have

1027
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,800
all our our sewer, sewer tap, um,
electrical, electrical commissioner, uh,

1028
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,320
the other commissioner that I can't
think of right now.

1029
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,920
» Building commission. Um, building
commission. Yeah. Um, so anything that's

1030
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:03,280
related to any construction or sewer
permits.

1031
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,280
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

1032
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,640
» Uh, again, this is on first reading
tonight. We'll hear second and third

1033
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:15,600
reading on September 8th. Um, any other
questions or comments? If not, a motion

1034
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:19,120
to approve joinance number 52026 for
establishing the new fund 2260 on first

1035
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:24,080
reading this evening.
>> I'll make a motion to approve uh general

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:26,719
ordinance number 5206.
>> Second a motion. All those in favor say

1037
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:33,520
I.
>> I. Those opposed. Motion carries 5 to

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:37,840
zero. Thank you.
>> That's all we have this evening tonight.

1039
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:40,640
Counselors. Um council comments. Council
nest.

1040
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,840
» Yep. Um no. Just thanks to everybody
that came out tonight and everybody that

1041
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,920
spoke. Thanks for department heads,
school board for being here. Uh Dr.

1042
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,440
Hammock uh did a really good job and all
the presenters. We appreciate you. And

1043
01:16:49,943 --> 01:16:55,040
[snorts] just speaking for district 5
and my constituents alone, not speaking

1044
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:59,360
for other counselors. Reason I voted for
the will tax increase with the city

1045
01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:03,520
level is it's better than the
Indianapolis level like we talked about

1046
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:07,440
and it's non-stacking. So everybody that
I talked to in district 5, it was a

1047
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:11,520
no-brainer [snorts] for them. So it was
a no-brainer for me as well. Um, there's

1048
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,800
going to be those out there that say,
you know, we voted we voted for raise

1049
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,159
taxes again and we, you know, people are
going to say this, but can you imagine

1050
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:22,400
how they would have gone after our heads
if we went with the Indianapolis rate.

1051
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:25,600
So, again, nobody wants to do this, but
this was the lesser of two evils. And,

1052
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:30,640
uh, that's it. Thanks for everybody
coming out.

1053
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:35,520
» Just send much prayer for the apartment
uh, situation and just if there's

1054
01:17:33,679 --> 01:17:39,760
anything we can do, let us know. For
sure.

1055
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:44,159
Both of you took everything that I was
going to say. Prayers for everybody.

1056
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,560
» I'll start with you next month.
>> Yeah, Council Mackin, I'll start with

1057
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:52,080
you, sir.
>> Pray Prayers for everybody that has been

1058
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:58,064
displaced from the fires. Uh, also,
please watch over our EMS, our Beach

1059
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:03,440
Grove Fire Department,
[clears throat] our IFD, sorry. Um, and

1060
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:06,800
our BGPD. Um, every day is getting a
little crazier out there and they need

1061
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,159
all the help that they can get from
above. That's all I have for this

1062
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:18,400
evening.
>> All I'd like to say is on the wheel tax,

1063
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:24,880
uh, it sounds like a no-brainer. I agree
with that 100%. Problem is they give you

1064
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:31,120
a cut somewhere and put it in this hand,
that cut, and they put it over here and

1065
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:33,600
take it. People are tired of being taxed
to death.

1066
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:39,120
» I agree with you.
>> That's what's going on. That's the

1067
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:44,560
reason why I voted against it. And uh
you know, I I just don't like any new

1068
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,159
taxes that they're putting in and tell
us they're giving us something else over

1069
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,480
here.
>> Go ahead, Chris.

1070
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:57,920
» Um I agree with what's been said by
pretty much everyone. Uh, Councelor

1071
01:18:55,440 --> 01:19:04,080
Ernest did take most of what I was going
to say. Um, I don't like raising taxes

1072
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:08,320
either. I, uh, I'm retired. I live on a
budget. And so,

1073
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:13,920
um, it's not something we want to do,
but you sit up here and you study this

1074
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:18,400
stuff all week or all month long. And
>> you learn which is the lesser of two

1075
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:22,960
evils and which is going to be uh, the
best thing for the citizens of Beach

1076
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:28,719
Grove. and sometimes it's not always
evident to the citizens, but uh uh I do

1077
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:33,600
try to have your best interest at heart
and that was the reason for my yes vote.

1078
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,679
Very good. For sure. Thank you,
counselors. Uh a couple announcements.

1079
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,520
Um tomorrow is National Night Out with
our Beach Road Police Department. Um new

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01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:45,920
location will be at Sarah T Bolton Park
this year. Uh that is tomorrow, August

1081
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:49,120
4th, from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at Sarah T
Bolton Park. So, be sure to come out and

1082
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:53,440
show your support to our men and women
that uh serve protect us each and every

1083
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:57,280
day. Um, council workshop. So, that'll
be September 8th. We will have a council

1084
01:19:55,280 --> 01:20:01,840
meeting. Um, and then we'll kind of uh
maneuver into a budget workshop. Um, and

1085
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,135
then as the clerk treasurer stated, we
have a budget on first reading on

1086
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:09,440
October 5th. Um, second reading
[clears throat] and adoption on October

1087
01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:12,239
19th. Um, that is all we have this
evening. Next

1088
01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:14,800
» drop here.
In here. Okay.

1089
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:18,239
» Yes, sir. All all take place here at the
council chambers. Thank you. Uh the next

1090
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:23,120
city council meeting again is scheduled
for Tuesday uh September 8, 2026 at 7

1091
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:26,080
p.m. here at city hall. Motion to
adjurnn. I'll make said motion. I'll

1092
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,080
second.
>> All those in favor say I.

1093
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:32,800
» I.
>> Meeting is opposed at 8:21. Thank you.

1094
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:36,630
» Meeting is opposed.
>> Is opposed.

1095
01:20:34,610 --> 01:20:36,630
[laughter]

1096
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:43,280
I'll email that.
>> Yeah. That way it's easier. Yeah.