1 00:00:02,940 --> 00:00:12,140 I'd like to call this meeting in order and welcome you here this evening. I'd like to call on, oh, let's see, how about the public works director? 2 00:00:14,660 --> 00:00:27,180 Ingenious to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:30,220 Thank you. Roll call. 4 00:00:32,610 --> 00:00:33,870 Martha Sellers. 5 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:34,090 Here. 6 00:00:34,910 --> 00:00:35,730 Mike Meese. 7 00:00:35,950 --> 00:00:36,070 Here. 8 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:37,030 Jim Simon. 9 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:37,650 Here. 10 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:38,870 Russ Nelson. 11 00:00:39,250 --> 00:00:39,410 Here. 12 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:40,870 Chris Menekucci. 13 00:00:41,890 --> 00:00:42,210 Here. 14 00:00:43,150 --> 00:00:43,890 Jim Doyle. 15 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:45,050 Here. 16 00:00:45,730 --> 00:00:46,310 Renee Manimo. 17 00:00:46,610 --> 00:00:46,850 Here. 18 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:51,950 Very good. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Next on our agenda is the public forum. This is on every council agenda. 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,660 agenda. Before starting your comments, please state your name and address in an audible tone 21 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:08,920 of voice. For the record, this is a time for individuals to comment on the matters falling 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:15,680 within the purview of the Belgrade City Council that are not already on the agenda. There 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,840 will be an opportunity in conjunction with each agenda item for comments pertaining 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:27,180 to that item. Please limit your comments to three minutes. So first call for public 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Second call for public comment. 26 00:01:34,110 --> 00:01:36,830 Third and final call for public forum comment. 27 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:40,830 There will be no interest in the public forum. 28 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:42,090 We'll close the public forum. 29 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:43,750 We'll move to our consent agenda. 30 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:48,690 We have just items relating to drafts of minutes. 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Motion to consent agenda. 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Second. 33 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:56,920 Moved by Council Member Simon, 34 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:59,360 seconded by Council Member Meese. 35 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Is there any discussion? 36 00:02:03,010 --> 00:02:04,430 Is there any discussion? 37 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:06,770 Is there any discussion? 38 00:02:07,890 --> 00:02:11,270 There being none, those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying aye. 39 00:02:11,530 --> 00:02:11,710 Aye. 40 00:02:12,350 --> 00:02:13,430 Those opposed, same sign. 41 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:16,670 Motion carries unanimously. 42 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:23,810 Next on our agenda is a proclamation. 43 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:26,830 As soon as I find it, there it is. 44 00:02:28,370 --> 00:02:32,550 For Arbor Day, April 28th, 2003. 45 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:36,670 City of Belgrade proclamation for Arbor Day 2023. 46 00:02:37,090 --> 00:02:41,610 Whereas Arbor Day in Montana is officially the last Friday in April. 47 00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:47,710 And whereas natural areas, trees and landscapes provide not only community beautification, 48 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:50,390 but also economic and environmental benefits. 49 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:55,410 And whereas trees provide many benefits to the community, 50 00:02:55,630 --> 00:03:01,330 including air purification, windbreaks, noise reduction, shade, and energy savings. 51 00:03:01,330 --> 00:03:07,570 and whereas planting trees and maintaining older trees provides an opportunity for community interaction, 52 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:12,670 volunteerism, economic development, and environmental conservation, 53 00:03:13,650 --> 00:03:18,630 and whereas our efforts to improve the environment benefit present and future generations. 54 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:21,650 Now therefore, I, Russell C. Nelson, the Mayor of Belgrade, 55 00:03:22,350 --> 00:03:30,210 hereby recognize April 28, 2023 as Arbor Day and encourage citizens to participate in appropriate activities 56 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:35,130 and to take advantage of the benefits of the parks and other natural areas in our community, 57 00:03:35,610 --> 00:03:38,730 dated the 17th day of January 2023. 58 00:03:45,130 --> 00:03:53,530 Next item on our discussion agenda is to consider, discuss and consider public access and utilities 59 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:58,230 meets for tract 1A of certificate of survey number 78A. 60 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,690 Mr. Eastwood, welcome. 61 00:04:00,690 --> 00:04:06,790 good evening as you said that public access and utility easement this is 62 00:04:06,790 --> 00:04:13,990 associated with the FedEx ground project just north of East Frank Road and what 63 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:19,430 will be through the easement if approved the extension of Yukon lane from where 64 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:28,490 it ends currently by our water tower on that side of town the property 65 00:04:28,490 --> 00:04:38,350 The party owners already signed the easement and we went through that easement and agreement with the city attorney and came to reasonable terms, I guess, for everything on that. 66 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:42,570 So if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. 67 00:04:45,250 --> 00:04:47,050 Any questions of Mr. Eastwood? 68 00:04:47,530 --> 00:04:49,750 So this will punch the road down to Frank then? 69 00:04:50,010 --> 00:04:50,190 Yes. 70 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:50,930 And complete that? 71 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:51,490 Yep. 72 00:04:52,010 --> 00:04:52,350 Cool. 73 00:04:53,050 --> 00:04:53,270 Good. 74 00:04:53,530 --> 00:04:53,710 Yeah. 75 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:54,530 Yeah, yeah. 76 00:04:56,330 --> 00:05:04,110 I'd ask if there's any public comment concerning this utility easement, any public comment? 77 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:07,590 Is there any public comment? 78 00:05:08,850 --> 00:05:09,830 They're being done. 79 00:05:10,050 --> 00:05:15,550 Is there any representatives of the applicant who wish to speak? 80 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:17,050 Nope. 81 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:18,490 Very good. 82 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:21,110 We'll let the council make a decision then. 83 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:27,880 Based on the recommendations of staff and the discussion heard, 84 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:36,200 I move to authorize the city manager to sign the public access and utility easement with Osterman associated with tract 1a of Certificate of Survey number 78a 85 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:44,440 Moved by council member cellar seconded by council member Matamol. Is there any discussion? 86 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:47,640 Is there any discussion? 87 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:50,360 Is there any discussion? 88 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:56,540 There being none those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye. 89 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:57,240 Aye. 90 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,760 All right, motion carries unanimously. 91 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:07,490 Next item on the discussion agenda 92 00:06:07,490 --> 00:06:09,310 is to discuss possible changes 93 00:06:09,310 --> 00:06:12,050 to the wastewater allocation policy. 94 00:06:12,670 --> 00:06:13,030 Hello again. 95 00:06:13,150 --> 00:06:14,430 Hello again, Mr. Eastwood. 96 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:18,930 As I guess some of you may be aware, 97 00:06:19,390 --> 00:06:22,850 our current wastewater allocation policy 98 00:06:22,850 --> 00:06:25,270 that was approved by city council 99 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:31,730 For properties annexed before January 1 of 2020, 100 00:06:32,370 --> 00:06:34,410 and then they had to be within 500 feet 101 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:37,750 of existing wastewater system lines 102 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,470 to be able to be considered for allocation 103 00:06:41,470 --> 00:06:43,370 of available wastewater capacity. 104 00:06:44,210 --> 00:06:48,110 That's issued on a first come first serve basis, 105 00:06:48,530 --> 00:06:51,590 based on them submitting construction plans 106 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:54,510 for any connections to the city system, 107 00:06:54,510 --> 00:06:57,130 and that those are reviewed and approved by the city. 108 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:09,050 Prior to that, I think the only differences were that the annexation date was June or actually July 1st of 2018. 109 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:16,290 About the time, I guess, when we were doing our wastewater treatment plant upgrades, 110 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:22,390 and as we got to see that we still had some available capacity, we shifted that to the 2020 date. 111 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:42,930 So I guess kind of what we're presenting is going to discuss among city council what direction you would like to go with allocating that available wastewater capacity as the new water reclamation facility comes online and then to make any changes I guess with recent annexations that we've had in the city. 112 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:53,410 When the new plant comes online, will that allow some additional capacity for those subdivisions that are in various stages? 113 00:07:54,050 --> 00:08:00,850 It does. Where we're sitting at right now, and this is just to grab a number from memory, 114 00:08:01,450 --> 00:08:10,890 is about 2,000 dwelling units of available capacity with what's been allocated and approved up to this point. 115 00:08:10,890 --> 00:08:16,490 We do have some developments currently in for review such as yellow iron 116 00:08:16,490 --> 00:08:21,730 subdivision and jackrabbit crossing. Both of those have infrastructure plans in 117 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:25,490 that are currently under review that would take away from some of that 118 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:29,850 available capacity. Where does Ashton Meadows fit in that? Ashton Meadows 119 00:08:29,850 --> 00:08:34,510 actually has allocation they're not approved they would way we've been 120 00:08:34,510 --> 00:08:38,690 doing approval is at the final plat stage but we will kind of allocate it 121 00:08:38,690 --> 00:08:40,910 once we've reviewed the plans. 122 00:08:41,170 --> 00:08:43,750 Ash de Meadows phase one has their plans approved 123 00:08:44,490 --> 00:08:47,370 and talked to the contractor this morning. 124 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:52,430 They're just waiting on getting a right away permits 125 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:54,090 in order, traffic control plan 126 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:55,890 and finalizing the construction contract 127 00:08:55,890 --> 00:08:58,090 with the development group on that 128 00:08:58,090 --> 00:08:59,470 before they start construction. 129 00:08:59,670 --> 00:09:01,730 I think they were thinking sometime here 130 00:09:01,730 --> 00:09:03,250 in the next two to three weeks. 131 00:09:03,690 --> 00:09:05,010 And that's infrastructure. 132 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:10,930 Yeah, water, sewer, roads, sidewalks, those, I think. 133 00:09:11,330 --> 00:09:12,270 Okay, very good. 134 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:21,770 We do have some others, you know, hanging out there, some commercial stuff that will use some of that capacity that's available. 135 00:09:22,050 --> 00:09:26,710 And then I have not heard from the airport what they're planning on doing this year. 136 00:09:27,090 --> 00:09:29,950 What they did last year, I do know we have some hangers in the works. 137 00:09:31,610 --> 00:09:35,810 And the airport did mention that they wanted to have a meeting to kind of go over some 138 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:39,250 things, which that usually means that they have something coming up that they'd like 139 00:09:39,250 --> 00:09:39,870 to talk about. 140 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:48,650 So I guess the direction we're looking for is how the City Council would like to proceed 141 00:09:49,550 --> 00:09:51,910 with the new plant coming online. 142 00:09:52,130 --> 00:09:57,650 And as these other developments come in, what methodology, if we continue kind of 143 00:09:57,650 --> 00:10:05,830 what we have and shifts the annexation date again to, you know, 2022 or 2023 along those 144 00:10:05,830 --> 00:10:13,350 lines or change course a little bit, but in the interest of the city, and do we look at 145 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:20,450 where we allocate, you know, based on type of land use, do we give preference to commercial 146 00:10:20,450 --> 00:10:26,210 development, presidential, you know, what's in the best interest of the city, you know, 147 00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:31,130 And for you know that limited available capacity that we have until we can get the next upgrade done 148 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:34,150 The staff and 149 00:10:34,930 --> 00:10:36,450 Have a recommendation 150 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:39,730 we have discussed just 151 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:41,270 for the 152 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:44,610 benefit of the city that preference is 153 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:51,190 Leading towards allocation on the commercial development as it comes in that has not had already a 154 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:52,970 capacity reservation 155 00:10:52,970 --> 00:11:02,490 I guess explaining that, stuff we're working through at DEQ is when a final plat goes and 156 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:08,710 we basically have to reserve all that capacity on paper, even though that development may 157 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:12,370 not happen, it could be five years, 10 years or that down the road. 158 00:11:14,010 --> 00:11:19,710 Those ones that don't have that, like say a FedEx ground is a perfect example where 159 00:11:19,710 --> 00:11:25,150 that came in on that property annexed and moved forward with development, something along those 160 00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:31,430 lines that giving them preference over a residential, a smaller residential project. 161 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:37,470 Yeah, a lot of the commercial will use a lot of, most commercials won't use a lot of water 162 00:11:37,470 --> 00:11:43,010 and sewer, is that the correct statement? That is fair statement, they're not as 163 00:11:43,010 --> 00:11:47,570 intensive as our residential uses, they put less strain on the limited resources that 164 00:11:47,570 --> 00:11:54,830 available. Residential also has impacts beyond just the water and wastewater side that you know 165 00:11:54,830 --> 00:12:02,170 snow removal and additional maintenance needs and additional traffic demands typically on your 166 00:12:02,170 --> 00:12:06,090 streets and that that you don't you do have with commercial but some of that's from your local 167 00:12:06,090 --> 00:12:12,670 resident population that you have already. What's the amount that we're actually pumping 168 00:12:12,670 --> 00:12:16,310 that is a significant number less than what's on paper. 169 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:20,370 Do you know what that number is? Oh, we average 170 00:12:21,650 --> 00:12:23,870 right now it's like around 171 00:12:25,050 --> 00:12:28,570 880,000 gallons per day. But the 172 00:12:28,570 --> 00:12:32,650 new planting, I think that's what we've been seeing coming in. The plants 173 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:36,110 rated for 1.74 million gallons per day. 174 00:12:36,850 --> 00:12:38,450 The new plant. The new plant, yes. 175 00:12:40,570 --> 00:12:50,530 And some of that, oh, as you may be aware, you get to see when you get to get to do a tour of the water reclamation facility. 176 00:12:51,210 --> 00:12:56,430 We were not pre-treating or screening, I guess, any of the inflow coming into the lagoons. 177 00:12:56,750 --> 00:13:04,650 And so anything that's in that inflow, you know, the paper products and things like that may have affected some of the inflow measurements. 178 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:10,910 We're still confirming if that is correct or not, but that has an impact on capacity as well. 179 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:18,910 So now the system, we are measuring that a little more accurate with the new equipment that has been installed. 180 00:13:19,510 --> 00:13:23,010 And so we'll refine kind of that baseline number that we're at. 181 00:13:23,130 --> 00:13:25,450 So that may help on the capacity side also. 182 00:13:26,350 --> 00:13:26,910 Yeah. 183 00:13:28,090 --> 00:13:28,830 Very good. 184 00:13:28,830 --> 00:13:35,790 So Tom your alternative B is kind of the direction I guess it would be here that 185 00:13:35,790 --> 00:13:42,230 you were leaning was that your alternative B all with the commercial 186 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:50,630 development yes maybe because look like alternative a essentially no change the 187 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:57,330 current policy and alternative B would be the kind of take out the 188 00:13:57,330 --> 00:14:04,010 seniority. Oh and that'd be something we have discussed in the past on doing 189 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:08,470 basically it's kind of on a first-come first-serve basis I think the 190 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:12,450 difference here is given that preference if you have two competing 191 00:14:12,450 --> 00:14:15,470 developments would be with the commercial project. 192 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,660 Mr. Cardwell. Thank 193 00:14:19,660 --> 00:14:24,420 you Mayor. Councilmember Meese the policy that you're looking at there is 194 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:32,360 the last update that the council adopted back in 2021 and that the motion for what was adopted 195 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:40,680 is attached to the very back of that. That's not the, that's not a staff proposal for updated 196 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:47,180 changes for now. What the hope was tonight is to get some overall guidance and direction of 197 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:52,900 what are, are we comfortable of staff looking at maybe adjusting the first come first serve 198 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:59,880 policy and if so we can then go back and write that type of policy up and bring 199 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:09,700 I would like to see us take a closer or harder look at commercial properties. If we have an 200 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:17,400 opportunity to get something in here, put some revenue into the tax base in lieu of another 201 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:23,540 residential area, I'd like to see us lean towards that direction. You know, not to get us in 202 00:15:23,540 --> 00:15:29,900 trouble or anything, but generate some revenue so we can get some commercial entities in 203 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:33,840 here maybe some jobs. I don't want to have a situation where we had that one 204 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:38,280 outfit that was going to come in here with the cookies and they couldn't get 205 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,240 allocation and they pulled up stakes and went somewhere else. That would have been 206 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,320 a good commercial business in Belgrade and I don't want that situation to 207 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:53,580 happen in the future. So that would be my suggestion. Yeah another side would be 208 00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:58,000 we're low on housing and we need all the housing we get but we do have a 209 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,100 a fair number of subdivisions that are already annexed and have capacity and have building 210 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:08,940 more land to build, so I think there's enough being built that what council members suggesting 211 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,640 probably works in both ways. We still have housing going on. It's already been approved 212 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,620 and tried to let this go, so that's what makes sense to me, too. 213 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:19,980 Everybody else? 214 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:28,380 Are there any housing groups, possibilities, in the works that are moving more slowly and 215 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:31,360 they've already had something allocated to them and that's sitting there and could be 216 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,180 used in a different way or obviously that would make everybody angry. 217 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,500 I'm just trying to understand what they're doing. 218 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:39,740 Suggesting we do that, I'm just trying to find like are there same things in the 219 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,140 hopper that are actually large and aren't moving very quickly and others could move 220 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:45,580 past that? 221 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:48,880 No, and I haven't seen either moving slowly. 222 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 The ones that are kind of in the works 223 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,540 is Mayor Brown, Ashton Meadows. 224 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,600 They're gonna be getting going. 225 00:16:57,380 --> 00:16:59,080 One's actively under construction 226 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:02,040 would be the Middle Arc Ranch subdivision, phase five. 227 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,900 I've been told they're looking to get in phase six 228 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:06,240 going on that. 229 00:17:06,540 --> 00:17:07,900 That's all the infrastructure stuff, 230 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,820 no home construction as of yet. 231 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,860 West Post subdivision, I think their plan 232 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:19,140 is to get all of the infrastructure done and I can't, you know, spend their 233 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:23,060 checkbook and I guess, well I'm standing here, but that is their intent as 234 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:26,080 they've told me is to get all the infrastructure done for the whole 235 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,180 subdivision this year if possible. There is a substantial residential 236 00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:34,660 component with that and then, you know, we do have the other ones that 237 00:17:34,660 --> 00:17:39,140 are kind of, haven't really submitted on the residential side like the 238 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:52,740 But there's the inventory out there and then we continually been having meetings even since the holidays of other developers looking and a lot of it's what we got residential and commercial mix of both. 239 00:17:55,300 --> 00:18:03,080 I think any alternatives need to be explored so we can kind of continue to grow and don't, you know, stall out. 240 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:14,260 And so if that has to play numbers with the paper game, essentially, I think we need to look at it on top of trying to get the EQ rules changed as well. 241 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:27,100 The other thing is that the West Post, the Davis property, that's been in the city a long time, so all that business has been approved already, is my point. 242 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:33,980 So there's a lot of business there. I guess this the the other business would be the development on check the jackrabbit that's commercial that 243 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:40,980 Would and what's the time frame for those developments related to needing that service? 244 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:50,080 Would you guess but yellow-iron jackrabbit crossing or hoping to start construction this year that would be extending the water and sewer means from 245 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,880 No, it's roughly like Thunder Road 246 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,360 South the Frank Road and into the development 247 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,920 So, and then I've been in discussions with some engineers, I guess, on the design side 248 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,300 of things for some commercial development out that project that they're already looking 249 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:10,180 and wanting to get going as soon as they can. 250 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:16,220 So, I would say this year we should be seeing some things on those projects, but, you know, 251 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,940 or the next, you know, up through the next five years, I would say you would start 252 00:19:20,940 --> 00:19:24,040 to form, build out on those projects. 253 00:19:25,380 --> 00:19:26,540 Yes, Mr. Cardwell. 254 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,120 Thank you. 255 00:19:27,460 --> 00:19:29,020 So a couple other comments. 256 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,040 I think overall, as we've talked about this internally 257 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,380 with staff, is like Tom mentioned, 258 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,280 that we're leaning to suggesting a commercial first approach. 259 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,480 And then talking about, from a multifamily perspective, 260 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,020 probably being second, and then moving 261 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:49,360 into lower density residential being third. 262 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:56,380 However, there's a couple caveats that will probably present to council in a formal report that want to throw out here. 263 00:19:56,540 --> 00:20:07,020 One is that we know is that the school district is looking to add schools on the south side of town and looking to be annexed with that DNRC property that they've procured. 264 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:18,820 I think it would be very wise for the city to make it in its policy that we will pre-allocate the capacity for the school district that would be needed over there for any schools that could come in. 265 00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:25,020 We also know that there's a Central Valley fire is looking at adding a station over there as well 266 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:31,540 And so while everything is coming down and we could get into a point where we're talking very small edu 267 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:36,600 Capacity limits. I think it staff would be recommending to council that we carve out 268 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,860 Those government entities that we know we're coming in as well in whatever policy that we bring 269 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:53,720 So if we had a first, second, third layout, like you just said, so the people in option 270 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,740 number two with the more dense housing, how are they knowing whether or not they should 271 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:01,200 keep plugging forward? 272 00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:07,260 What does that look like when somebody's in category one and they're not as far along 273 00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:08,480 as the people in category two? 274 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,620 That's a great question and that's not an easy one to answer either because a lot of 275 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:18,620 times we're going to have to go based upon what they're communicating with us because 276 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:22,060 our first question is going to be, are you shovel-ready? 277 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,460 Are you building this now? 278 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,940 And we'll need to work with Rick on some of this language as possible where we can 279 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:33,940 get commitments from them of if we're going to allocate this capacity to you, we need 280 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:39,080 an understanding from you that you're actually going to construct this in this time frame. 281 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,840 And that would then allow those individuals to know where they're at in the pecking order 282 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,340 a lot better versus us just saying, well, we know we've got all these coming down the 283 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:53,380 pike and we think you're going to fit in, but we don't know. 284 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,400 I think overall with our until we can either get this is solved with DEQ, which we're 285 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:05,220 making some progress on or the phase two of the plant is done we've got to kind 286 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:09,760 of hold some of our developers feet to the fire of look we don't want we want 287 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,040 you in Belgrade we're happy to have you but we need to maybe reduce how big your 288 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,940 ask is up front of some of these large low density residential areas that are 289 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:26,160 builds out of 20 years we may be going to them saying we want to see this 290 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,440 phased in instead of asking for it all at once. 291 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,440 So those are some of the ideas that staff has on the table. 292 00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:36,000 That would be new development with that, 293 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,300 or is that going back and asking current developments? 294 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,840 I do not believe it's on the table for us 295 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,420 to change anybody that we've already given a letter to. 296 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,340 Thank you, yeah, very good. 297 00:22:44,660 --> 00:22:46,860 Would there, with the scenario that you just used, 298 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:52,180 would it be smart to have an allocate, deallocate? 299 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:53,080 I don't know what the right word is. 300 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,280 but if they don't meet the time frame that they're talking about. 301 00:22:57,820 --> 00:23:01,280 Because if I were one of them, I'd say, yes, I'm going to get it done by then. 302 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:01,320 Right. 303 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:08,220 Which is exactly why we've got to get our legal RIC involved to make sure that if we 304 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,540 are going to hold them into that type of accountability, 305 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:15,760 that there's not a risk that we're violating some MCA statute that we're not aware of at this time. 306 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Yeah. 307 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:20,340 Because recent history, Ryan Glenn, all that infrastructure out there, 308 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:24,440 than downturn or what, 2008 and sat for years. 309 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,460 Right. 310 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:27,040 It's a good place to teach your kids how to drive. 311 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:27,360 Right. 312 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,100 And as staff, I think it's very important 313 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,680 that I want to put this on the record 314 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,220 that we know that this is not an ideal situation. 315 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,560 We want all of this growth to come in. 316 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:40,720 We're excited about it. 317 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:43,400 We're happy that we're known as a community that 318 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,760 is open to development and not very difficult to work with. 319 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,920 and we just ask for patience with our development community 320 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,600 that as we work through some legislative hurdles on this 321 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,440 that these are some of our best options that are available to us 322 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,160 and if they want to join the fight with us in 323 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,700 trying to get these rules changed we would be happy to 324 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:10,860 work with them on it because ultimately as Tom just said we're not even close to 325 00:24:10,860 --> 00:24:14,780 50% of the overall operating capacity of our new 326 00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:22,640 plant but yet on paper were over 95 to 96 percent allocated. So it's a big difference. 327 00:24:24,860 --> 00:24:34,760 It just seems silly. Every time I hear that my blood pressure goes up because it just doesn't make sense 328 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:41,780 the paper deal. That's the rules today unless we get them changed. So good. Well thank you for 329 00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:48,360 answering the questions. I have a question. My hand's been up, but nobody looks. That's 330 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:59,200 all right. Well, thank you, Chris. I always have something to say. My foremost thought 331 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:06,560 always is illegal ramifications of changing the order. And I just am nervous about that. 332 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:14,540 So, and I know you thought about it, but I need to hear out loud how, what's the approach? 333 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,060 Oh, and if I may. 334 00:25:18,340 --> 00:25:19,220 Yes, please do. 335 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:24,560 Well, and as Neil alluded to, that what we would do is take feedback, 336 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:28,400 I guess that we've gathered here this evening and kind of draft something up 337 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,920 and then present that to council at a future meeting, probably relatively soon, 338 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:39,260 but at least give you an opportunity to see what the actual proposal is and then to discuss 339 00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:42,180 and consider that and if that's a direction that you would like to go. 340 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:44,920 Chris, I have a question of you. 341 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:49,800 Are you thinking that some of this might seem discriminatory? 342 00:25:50,260 --> 00:25:55,100 Is that your thought or when we allocate to one to the other? 343 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:06,720 Yeah, I didn't think discriminatory, but I just want to know how we're going to go over that 344 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,180 line and what ramifications have you thought that through, or do you expect any? 345 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:21,160 I'm just nervous about the very thought of those who were in line for a while. 346 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,620 And I see where we're going and I'm all on board with that. 347 00:26:25,780 --> 00:26:31,980 I just want to make sure that I'm comfortable doing this 348 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:39,340 if there's a 90, 80% chance of no legal ramifications 349 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,700 then I'm good with it. 350 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,780 But if you figure out there's going to be 351 00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:46,940 everything held up for a long time, 352 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:53,340 And I'm sure you have the answers to that, but I'm just nervous. 353 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:55,780 Thank you, Chris. 354 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,360 City Manager Cardwell has some thoughts he wants to share or our attorney. 355 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,480 Well, I don't. 356 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:08,280 I obviously want an opportunity to review any policy that comes up. 357 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,300 And Chris, I agree with you. 358 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:24,760 No one has a crystal ball here, I guess that's my first thought here, and we certainly don't 359 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:32,300 want to prevent a developer from going ahead with the development, but there's a reality 360 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,200 of how much capacity we're going to be able to use. 361 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:45,960 all of the annexation service plans that were adopted for all of the annexations 362 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,980 talk about limited capacity and you know they they may not we may not have the 363 00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:57,240 capacity for them to develop when they want to develop so I everyone's been on 364 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:04,340 notice I think frankly I think everybody's a little bit surprised at 365 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:13,040 this last you know the recent upgrade for the water facility isn't enough to you 366 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,940 know do everything to satisfy growth further into the future and but that's 367 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:26,260 just the reality of it so we're doing everything we can and but anyway that's 368 00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:31,700 kind of a long answer but we'll look at it and and certainly you know I'm 369 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,060 I'm certainly going to do everything I can to protect the interests of the city. 370 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Mr. Cardwell, do you have any other words? 371 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,160 What our city attorney said. 372 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,060 Go ahead, Chris. Anything else? 373 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:55,120 No, just a request to the city manager to upgrade the sound system on this deal. 374 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,600 I think Jim will agree. We get about aptly said. 375 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:05,440 We've got a Amazon cable ordered that will be ready for next meeting. 376 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,500 Sweet. Thank you. 377 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:13,660 Any other questions 378 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:18,100 of Mr. Eastwood? 379 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:19,960 Or if you have some other words, go ahead. 380 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Well, the only other thing I would add is that there's anything, 381 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,020 other alternatives I guess the council would have that they would like us to consider other than what we have presented. 382 00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:36,480 And then we can certainly take that direction and incorporate it just as a council member 383 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,740 of Manukuchi mentioned, you know, some of these other things you need to consider when you're 384 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:40,860 putting this policy together. 385 00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:47,440 But if there's a different allocation method you'd like us to look at or that help represents 386 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,640 the people that you represent, we'll certainly take that into consideration as we put something 387 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,020 together. 388 00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:59,880 What I would like to see is whatever program we come up with, if it's as you've spoken 389 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,760 Tonight, commercial first, and then if we could have some, rather than just that, who fits into 390 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:13,360 each of those that we know about today? So we can maybe see who gets left out. That will 391 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,160 tell us that. Okay, so I'd like to see who the commercials are that would use what we 392 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:27,820 think and then multi and then single family. That may be subdivisions, that may be whatever 393 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:31,980 it is. But I want to know who's in each bucket. It would be useful for me. 394 00:30:34,820 --> 00:30:40,340 One thing it might be good to is that if we get everything on our wish list from 395 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:46,100 the DEQ for changes, how would that impact this as well? It goes away. 396 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:50,560 Seamless transition. Well, I still think you're going to have a pecking order, 397 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,400 right? Because you're still going to probably end up using building permits 398 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,180 and allocation and combination to then define resources 399 00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:00,380 and what triggers an upgrade. 400 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:00,880 Yeah. 401 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:06,500 We could certainly write that in to the policy so that we wouldn't have 402 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,660 to necessarily come back and do another one, 403 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:13,480 because that's a relatively simple ask, very easy method for us. 404 00:31:13,660 --> 00:31:16,760 If DEQ grants us what we're looking for, 405 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:19,920 we would move to a CO-based allocation level 406 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,560 that it is strictly first-come, first-serve at the moment that you are 407 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,460 granted the CO and then it becomes the city's responsibility to monitor the 408 00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:34,860 pace of that growth and the actual capacity to know when we need to be 409 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:41,020 adding that additional capacity. So it would be a very simple transition once 410 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:45,740 that hopefully takes place and we could definitely write that into it. 411 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,680 Great. 412 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800 I guess that's it. Thank you, Mr. Eastwood. 413 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,140 Thank you for your time. 414 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,080 I'd ask, because I haven't yet, if there's any public comment concerning this discussion. 415 00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:59,360 Is there any public comment? 416 00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:02,920 Is there any public comment? 417 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:11,860 If you think of some later, please contact the city manager or any staff member you know, 418 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:14,800 and they can relay it to the city manager. 419 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,420 So, 420 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,360 don't think we need any motion on this. 421 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:30,500 Just think what my understanding is the staff is going to come back with a written recommendation based on what they heard tonight and then we'll talk about it more. 422 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,300 Yes. 423 00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:32,000 Good. 424 00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:32,800 All right. 425 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,700 Let's see. 426 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,360 Next is 427 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:44,350 discuss upcoming special meeting regarding parks, trails and recreation district. 428 00:32:44,670 --> 00:32:45,190 Mr. Cardwell. 429 00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:51,450 Well, thank you Mayor and Council. So this item is to draw attention to the fact that 430 00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:58,250 I have called a special meeting of the City Council on Thursday, January 26th at 7 p.m. 431 00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:04,270 that will be held in the council chambers. The items on that meeting will be pertaining 432 00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:12,590 to the adoption of a resolution to put on the ballot on May 2nd a vote by the people 433 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:17,690 for the creation of the Belgrade Regional Parks, Trails and Recreation District and 434 00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:24,730 an associated bond of in the amount of $49 million to construct the Belgrade Aquatics 435 00:33:24,730 --> 00:33:26,070 and Recreation Center. 436 00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:32,170 And the reason for the special meeting is that the County Commission will be holding 437 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:39,770 their meeting on the adjoining resolution on the 24th at 9 a.m. and for one very 438 00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:45,990 important note is that will be in the Ag extension building, which is located at 903 North Black 439 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:51,050 Avenue and will not be in the standard County Commission room due to some renovations that 440 00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:57,090 they are having in there at this time. So the public that wishes to comment, it's a pretty 441 00:33:57,090 --> 00:34:03,110 big change, so we wanted to draw attention to that. We'll be presenting the final 442 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:07,970 language that is on that resolution that Dan Simmons, our bond attorney from Dorsey 443 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:13,470 Whitney has been putting together for us. The county's reviewed it and looked over it and we've 444 00:34:13,470 --> 00:34:19,270 nailed down all the little final tweaks to it. The election office has been involved as well 445 00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:25,650 because we have to get this to them by February 6 in order to make it on the ballot. And so all 446 00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:31,170 of the timelines and nuances of this are all coming together and we're really excited to 447 00:34:31,170 --> 00:34:38,350 see this. So look forward to hopefully the council being able to attend, have a 448 00:34:38,350 --> 00:34:42,910 quorum and be able to take a vote on this to see if that's something the 449 00:34:42,910 --> 00:34:47,610 council wants to officially put on the ballot. And I will be presenting at the 450 00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:52,130 County Commission meeting the city's request to have this put on the ballot. 451 00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:56,510 But I'm happy to answer any questions you may have or they could be saved 452 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:59,090 until the 26th as well I 453 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,700 don't it appears there's no comments by council I 454 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:16,280 assume everybody will be there will those that can't attend will a zoom like 455 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,640 tonight we'll have a zoom link available very good okay super all right nothing 456 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:28,760 there the next item is reports I asked mr. Cardwell if you are or if I should 457 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:36,120 about yesterday's. I think you should go for it Mayor. Thank you. Yesterday City 458 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,160 Manager Cardwell and Deputy Mayor Mies and I drove to Helena to give public 459 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,900 testimony against Senate Bill 142. This was a bill that was set to 460 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:55,740 change impact fees. There was a gentleman and he brought three of his 461 00:35:55,740 --> 00:36:06,440 to his buddies to make their case for changing as they had some property in Whitefish and 462 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,640 were overcharged impact fees. 463 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,860 Once that was known to the city, I'm not sure how the city found out, but once it was discovered 464 00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:16,440 the city refunded the money. 465 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,480 But these guys still aren't happy. 466 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:24,340 So they have this bill that would, what it would do is it would take impact fees 467 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:30,200 that cities would have to report to the Department of Commerce. Cities today get five percent 468 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,560 of the impact fees for administration. They wanted 20 percent of that to go to the Department 469 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:43,140 of Commerce to do what they had to do. And it had some other things that weren't good, 470 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:51,760 some other reporting. And I think they wanted time restriction, a time restriction. So 471 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,720 anyway or more red tape and certainly the governor is trying to get do red tape 472 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:03,780 productions we didn't get to say that but so then who spoke there were those 473 00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:06,880 gentlemen there were three people at three or four people that spoke in 474 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,360 favor of that bill and then the rest of us the city of Belgrade city of White 475 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,100 Fish cities of Bozeman and Missoula and a city of Billings all had 476 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:25,300 representation and butte and butte thank you I forgot about butte and butte so they 477 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:36,520 all spoke against the Senate bill 142 and after it was all over the senators 478 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,060 indicate that they took that public comment and they'll decide on it later 479 00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:49,910 maybe this Friday maybe next week but what did happen after that can I 480 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:55,190 don't have to. You do now, Mayor. I do now. 481 00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:04,610 There's a potential that the governor's office 482 00:38:04,610 --> 00:38:11,790 has an opinion and they may share it with the committee that we've learned that. So we'll 483 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,050 We'll see how that plays out. 484 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:14,270 Wow. 485 00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:14,930 Very good. 486 00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:15,550 Very well done. 487 00:38:16,030 --> 00:38:18,230 Oh, gosh. 488 00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:20,330 That's why you brought me along, keeping it in. 489 00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:21,190 Thank you. 490 00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:21,910 Keeping it in. 491 00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:22,230 Even cute. 492 00:38:22,510 --> 00:38:23,350 Yes, that's right. 493 00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:24,670 Keeping it above the gym. 494 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:26,410 So we'll see how that transpires. 495 00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:32,590 There will be other bills that are coming up that we probably will make more trips to 496 00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:39,130 Helena and we'll keep you informed on those as they happen. 497 00:38:40,070 --> 00:38:41,350 So that's all I have. 498 00:38:41,350 --> 00:38:42,790 I'd call on our city attorney. 499 00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:43,970 I don't have anything. 500 00:38:44,350 --> 00:38:46,550 I'd call on our city manager, Mr. Cardwell. 501 00:38:46,890 --> 00:38:49,090 Thank you, Mayor, for giving me a heart attack there. 502 00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,850 Always keeping me on my toes. 503 00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:52,430 That's right. 504 00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:53,070 That's right. 505 00:38:53,350 --> 00:38:54,150 But I did ask. 506 00:38:57,350 --> 00:39:03,350 You know, that was a great trip and it was really good to see a lot of the cities joining together. 507 00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:08,870 And I want to thank Kelly Lynch, the director for the Montana League of Cities and Towns, 508 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:10,670 who does an excellent job and their staff 509 00:39:10,670 --> 00:39:13,530 of keeping us informed of what's coming down 510 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:16,810 and letting us know things that we should be aware of 511 00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:18,450 and helping coordinate the efforts 512 00:39:18,850 --> 00:39:22,250 and making sure that our voices are heard on Helena 513 00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:24,070 as all these important things are decided. 514 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:28,610 There is one other, it's really two sets of bills. 515 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,270 I don't have the numbers in front of me, 516 00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:32,510 but I'll be happy to email those to council. 517 00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:35,350 There's a House version and a Senate version 518 00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:38,450 that would drastically change the way 519 00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:44,590 that the mill levy structures work for municipalities and that it removes all 520 00:39:44,590 --> 00:39:50,390 abilities of municipalities to ask for permanent mill levies and would also set 521 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:57,250 a requirement that at least 50% of the electorate that are the registered 522 00:39:57,250 --> 00:40:02,530 voters have to participate in the election before a mill levy vote would 523 00:40:02,530 --> 00:40:10,090 be considered valid and then also reduce the length of any mill levy to a maximum of six 524 00:40:10,090 --> 00:40:18,690 years. There are many reasons why that would be detrimental to a city to do. The majority 525 00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:23,770 of those revolve around that, and we're doing some internal studies on this and checking 526 00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:30,450 on it, but the early cursory look is that there are very, very few, if not any, 527 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:36,290 any mill levy elections that ever have achieved that 50% of registered voter participation 528 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:44,030 in that we're really taking it from the stance of that it's not creating a majority rule 529 00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:49,470 situation, it's creating a minority control type situation if you were to change the 530 00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:51,530 rules in that aspect. 531 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:59,870 And then on top of it, the removal of a permanent structure, on top of the fact that 532 00:40:59,870 --> 00:41:06,590 that you have that now 50% rule could mean like Belgrade, for example, why we would be 533 00:41:06,590 --> 00:41:10,950 very opposed to this is something that we've been discussing about. 534 00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:16,370 Our public safety mill levy is a permanent mill levy that was established many, many 535 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:23,350 years ago and the current rules and regulations require that we are only allowed to increase 536 00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:28,490 our revenue by one half the rate of inflation 537 00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:30,470 over a three year rolling average. 538 00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:33,570 That's a large mouthful to say 539 00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:36,310 that we are governmently bound, if you will, 540 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:40,470 to become extremely more efficient every single year 541 00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:43,890 because we cannot grow at the rate of inflation. 542 00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:47,990 So we're always gonna be behind from that aspect. 543 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:50,030 And so when you have a permanent mill levy 544 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:52,030 that may be a decade old, 545 00:41:52,030 --> 00:41:57,250 much like our library mill levy is approaching that same time, time lane there. 546 00:41:57,650 --> 00:42:02,870 You're eventually, the rate of inflation is outpacing your revenue growth, 547 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:08,210 and that amount of revenue that you're receiving is becoming less and less effective every year. 548 00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:13,450 You combine that with, if the new rules took place, 549 00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:19,070 and we wish to go out to the community to express that, hey, we feel that we're doing a good job, 550 00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:22,230 but we could use your support in some additional services. 551 00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:25,450 And the community backed us and supported it. 552 00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:30,130 Then that levy would convert from a permanent male levy 553 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:32,170 to the six-year male levy. 554 00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:36,290 And even assuming we got 50% of the participation 555 00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:40,130 to establish that, then six years further down the road, 556 00:42:40,270 --> 00:42:44,530 we could end up in a situation where we only got 49% 557 00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:46,070 to the people voting on it. 558 00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:48,050 And then that levy falls off. 559 00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:57,690 And that is very, very difficult as a, frankly, as an organization and as a corporation, which 560 00:42:57,690 --> 00:43:05,030 were a municipal corporation, to budget and plan and anticipate your ability to sustain 561 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:07,710 services when you cannot guarantee the revenues. 562 00:43:08,450 --> 00:43:14,990 So there are, where the league and other cities are actively working with the 563 00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:19,190 legislatures to draw attention to some of these issues that are in that bill and 564 00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:23,350 the effects that it would have on us and hopefully we'll be able to draw some 565 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:28,310 attention to that and if this council or anybody wishes to participate in that 566 00:43:28,310 --> 00:43:31,570 let me know and when we get the hearing dates and if we're asked to 567 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:36,350 participate we should probably make another trip up to the Hill to discuss 568 00:43:36,350 --> 00:43:40,570 that one. I don't have any other for tonight. 569 00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:48,390 Very good. Thank you, Mr. Cardwell. We'll move to FYI. We'll start with Council Member 570 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:56,330 Madimo under FYI. I don't think I have anything. I was excited to see that we are going to have 571 00:43:56,330 --> 00:44:02,450 an ice cream place in Belgrade this summer. Okay. Very good. That's great. Over by 572 00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:05,930 Lewis and Clark Park. It'll be a trailer and they all have genuine ice cream. 573 00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:10,070 I'm 574 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:11,490 That's cute. 575 00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:13,950 Council Member Menekuchi. 576 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:19,520 There is no snow in Pennsylvania, and I'm thankful. 577 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:21,880 Okay. Thank you. 578 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,520 Council Member Doyle. 579 00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:27,440 I don't have anything to add tonight. 580 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,860 All right. Thank you. 581 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,600 Council Member... 582 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:35,100 Sorry, but there you go. 583 00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:37,220 I'm getting old. I'm getting old. 584 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,900 I got just a couple of quick items. 585 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,600 I did attend the Central Valley Fire District Board meeting 586 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:52,140 meeting on January 10th. It was a pretty quick meeting. Talked a little bit about the legislative 587 00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:58,120 activities, impact. These was one of them. Also, I wanted to point out a representative 588 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,780 from the union and the chief. 589 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:07,940 Talked about they have an increased volunteer participation recently and the culture is good 590 00:45:07,940 --> 00:45:13,400 over there where the volunteers are wanting to come in and participate more. So that was 591 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:20,220 a refreshing update to hear, which is good. So things are improving on that front. 592 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,060 And 593 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:36,980 Living quarters or residential. So there was a couple people that were asking questions about that and the chief did a real 594 00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:37,520 Nice job 595 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,580 Informing them what what they can expect for service on that end of the district as well 596 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:51,940 So and then pulling resources back to the Belgrade proper and down four corners is is the goal of that change 597 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,520 Other than that that was about it. And then one other thing. I don't know 598 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,540 Council Member Doyle, can you hear me by chance? 599 00:46:01,870 --> 00:46:02,250 Yes. 600 00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:05,790 Would you be available to sit in for me 601 00:46:05,790 --> 00:46:10,530 on the February 14th Fire Board meeting at 5.30? 602 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:17,040 Yes. 603 00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:18,380 Okay, great. 604 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,160 Thank you. 605 00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:21,820 Thank you. 606 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,480 Council Member Meese. 607 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:27,660 Last week we have the PCC, 608 00:46:28,220 --> 00:46:31,900 the Belgrade-Bosman-Gallatin County 609 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:34,320 Planning Coordination Committee meeting. 610 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,500 Reappointed myself as Chair in Sean O'Callaghan, 611 00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:42,340 the Gallin County Planning Director as Co-Chair. 612 00:46:43,340 --> 00:46:47,800 Jennifer Boyer, who's been our liaison, 613 00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:51,140 I don't know exactly, kind of streamlining our meetings now 614 00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:54,960 with her being elected to her position on the county. 615 00:46:55,420 --> 00:46:58,260 She's actually going to take Zach's spot on the BCC 616 00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:04,840 board as the county representative to help, I think, with some of the continuity there. 617 00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:06,660 So I think some good things are happening. 618 00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:13,060 We talked a little bit about the MPO, you know, really in kind of the beginning stages. 619 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,580 And I'm sure Neil will probably have some more updates in the next few weeks as those 620 00:47:18,580 --> 00:47:25,580 discussions keep on going between what the Census Bureau map comes out as and with 621 00:47:25,580 --> 00:47:29,060 with the county and city of Bozeman and city of Belgrade. 622 00:47:30,090 --> 00:47:34,500 We did talk about doing some planning board roundtables 623 00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:38,240 like we had done last year where we also included, 624 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040 I think three forks participated, 625 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,560 West Yellowstone, maybe even Big Sky, I think. 626 00:47:44,980 --> 00:47:48,980 So doing another one of those roundtable meetings 627 00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:50,720 with a lot of the different jurisdictions 628 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,620 just to talk through issues that they see 629 00:47:54,620 --> 00:47:59,900 and and I think it was helpful the last time and another one was the school 630 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:06,280 roundtable getting schools together to kind of talk about you know what future 631 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,800 planning and what their growth is looking like as well so a little bit 632 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,180 happening on the PCC so I think that's all I had. Very good thank you. 633 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:24,340 Councilmember Sellers. Yes I the library board meets next week but I will not 634 00:48:24,340 --> 00:48:29,080 be there sad to say I've chosen to step down from the council and tonight is my 635 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,980 last night I want to thank everyone who helped me learn what to do and how to do 636 00:48:32,980 --> 00:48:37,340 it Jason you get massive kudos for answering probably 700,000 questions 637 00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:40,900 in a year and Gail I just want to thank you for bringing me along on the board 638 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:44,400 I enjoyed every minute of it and to everyone who works in the city I want 639 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,560 to thank you for all you do it's been really wonderful to to see that at a 640 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:54,060 more close level than I would as just a citizen I'm amazed and so impressed 641 00:48:54,060 --> 00:48:57,940 with all that you do to make this city work and we are really, really lucky to have you. 642 00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:04,160 I say that as a constituent and a voter from here on out. I appreciate every single thing that everyone of you does. Thank you. 643 00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:11,440 Very good. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Sellers, for your service that you have put forth. 644 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:18,180 You've been a dedicated Council Member by immersing yourself in the issues and learning the issues. 645 00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:24,940 And we certainly appreciate that and hate to see you go, but understand that our jobs 646 00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:29,320 are more important than other things. 647 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,660 So we appreciate your time and wish you the best. 648 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:32,940 Thank you. 649 00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:40,900 And let's see, related to that, I guess I should talk about that I think the city 650 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:49,260 We will look to appoint someone for Martha's spot and we would take applications for those 651 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:53,220 that live in that district and that is, what ward is that? 652 00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:53,520 3. 653 00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:56,600 3, Ward 3 and that's where you and Jim serve, is that correct? 654 00:49:58,220 --> 00:50:02,900 If anybody's interested you can look, I think that's on our website, the wards, you can 655 00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:08,260 see what Ward 3 covers and we just submit, if you're interested, please correspond 656 00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:13,700 with myself and Mr. Cardwell, and we'll try to get that position filled. 657 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,000 So, very good. Anything else for the good of the order? 658 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:18,580 Move to adjourn. 659 00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:19,540 Second. 660 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,880 Second. We're adjourned. 661 00:50:24,310 --> 00:50:25,270 Jim Doyle. 662 00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:32,410 I have that exact same clock that my husband gave to me 50 years ago.