1 00:01:43,090 --> 00:01:50,350 Good evening and welcome as we call the order of this regular session of the city council on Monday, December 15, 2025, roll call, auto, here. 2 00:01:50,350 --> 00:01:56,430 here. Evan's here. Stacey. Glad is also present and joining us for City staff tonight is. 3 00:01:56,770 --> 00:02:02,650 Police Chief Terry Steer. City administrator, Dawn Meyer. Recording Secretary Renee Eirick. 4 00:02:04,170 --> 00:02:10,710 Patrol Sergeant Brian Vice-Cidal. Sympi of Smith Strat Community Development Director. Todd Otto Public Works Superintendent. 5 00:02:11,410 --> 00:02:16,150 Joe Duncan City Engineer. Bob Vos City Attorney. Steve Otto Fire Chief. 6 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:26,230 Thank you for the approval of the agenda tonight with the edition of Resolution 25159 7 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:30,490 of Proving Primest Permit for German Days Incorporated at Steelhurst, Tavern, and I'll add that 8 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:32,910 to the consent agenda with that all of our motion. 9 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:35,890 Second. 10 00:02:36,430 --> 00:02:39,490 I have a motion by Evans and a second by Stacey, all those in favor. 11 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:40,390 Aye. 12 00:02:40,870 --> 00:02:41,370 Opposed? 13 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:45,030 Moving on. 14 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:50,510 public forum tonight we have Rachel Miller signed up and I will also invite any audience members 15 00:02:50,510 --> 00:02:52,850 that didn't sign up to speak if they were. 16 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,580 Rachel Miller, Henderson and Pendant, that addresses 507 Main Street and Henderson. 17 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:16,000 For those that don't know me, again I'm Rachel Miller and the owner and publisher of the 18 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Henderson Independent newspaper and the person who has covered the city council for the past 19 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,580 year. 20 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:26,020 Typically you'll see me in the back or to the side of this room, carefully recording 21 00:03:26,020 --> 00:03:31,400 what you all say. I typically don't address the council, but over the weekend I was made 22 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 aware of an incident that I could not ignore. 23 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:40,320 Maryland, you shared my article in the budget last week about the city finances, which 24 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:46,180 is totally fine. But in your comments you stated, it's funny how Rachel was in attendance, 25 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,920 but didn't include any of the proposed cuts. She would rather talk about an unbalanced 26 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,480 budget that we were trying to balance by proposing cuts. 27 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Although you did not come out and say it, the insinuation was clear enough, you believe 28 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 I am unbiased and unprofessional in my reporting. 29 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,280 As a result, I would like to introduce the true facts into the public record. 30 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Last week's article had nothing to do with the December 10th budget meeting. 31 00:04:12,380 --> 00:04:16,960 It was in fact to follow up to the December 1st City Council meeting in which this 32 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Council voted down the tax, levy, and budget. 33 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,840 If you'd read that initial article in the December 5th edition, you would have noticed 34 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:29,500 I did not include the allegations that staff made that the city would lose state funding 35 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:31,980 if a budget was not approved by the end of the year. 36 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:37,880 I intentionally omitted it at the time because I could not verify the truth of that statement 37 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,780 by our press deadline, and I do not believe in publishing unverified information. 38 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:48,180 And that is how misinformation spreads, and how trust is eroded in the media. 39 00:04:49,740 --> 00:04:54,360 I had a conversation with state auditor Blahahah on the afternoon of December 3, and 40 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,280 she told me that the information staff shared was not accurate, however she did say that 41 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,400 It was a common misconception, and that same Paul staff had also made the same error. 42 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:11,560 Because those comments were made on the record in the meeting, I felt it was my duty to share accurate information with the public. 43 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:14,360 That is what last week's article was about. 44 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:22,260 And at risk of incurring the staff's wrath, they should know that it was a result of my conversation that the auditor reached out to them. 45 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:24,920 She just wanted to make you aware of accurate information. 46 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Isn't this what newspapers are for? 47 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Isn't not our job to hold officials accountable and verify that the information is true and accurate before we publish? 48 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:40,640 Putting a newspaper together is not easy. 49 00:05:41,140 --> 00:05:44,160 There are a lot of moving parts that have to be finalized every week. 50 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,720 And for those that are unfamiliar, newspapers do have deadlines. 51 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,380 Hours is noon on Wednesday. 52 00:05:51,360 --> 00:06:05,020 So, Mayor, last week's budget meeting started at 3 p.m. Wednesday. By the time it finished close to 6 p.m., our paper had already been bundled, labeled, and was waiting to be loaded on a delivery van that would depart Thursday morning. 53 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:12,400 Now, I'm good at my job, but I am not capable of getting an article in the paper that has already been printed. 54 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,420 Now, I'm not going to fault anyone here for not knowing the ins and outs of my business. That isn't your job. 55 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:26,400 However, a simple phone call, or an email, could have very quickly cleared up this situation. 56 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:31,420 And frankly, that should have been done before a disparaging comment was made about me online. 57 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,080 The Concern Citizens of Belplain Facebook page has 4800 followers, 58 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,660 and a statement an assumption was made about me without care for the truth. 59 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:45,520 No one has to like me, you don't have to want to be my friend, 60 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:51,560 But just like I hold myself to standards to make sure I am sharing the truth, so should all of you. 61 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:54,240 And that brings me to my final point. 62 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:57,740 I have been a working journalist for almost 20 years now. 63 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,340 And I can sincerely say that I have never seen a more dysfunctional governmental body. 64 00:07:03,820 --> 00:07:06,200 And at the heart of that is a pattern of disrespect. 65 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:10,180 Last Wednesday's budget meeting was a perfect example. 66 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:16,600 We had one council member drop an F-bomb, another leave before the meeting was over, and another 67 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,220 speaking over, city staff and other council members. 68 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:23,960 All of that is disrespectful and does not encourage collaboration. 69 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:32,400 The moment disrespect enters a conversation is the moment productive communication dies. 70 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,880 I'm going to repeat that. 71 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,060 the moment disrespect enters a conversation is the moment productive communication dies. 72 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,460 Now, I truly believe that a majority of this council agrees that taxes are too high and 73 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:52,620 something needs to be done, but that's why this situation is so baffling. Because if people 74 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:57,380 can agree there's a problem, they should be united to work together to address that problem, 75 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:59,240 and that's simply not happening. 76 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:04,620 Respect is earned. It can't be demanded, and if you don't show 77 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:10,240 to one another, you're not going to get it back from one another. A good leader leads by example. 78 00:08:11,980 --> 00:08:18,640 A good leader wants outside opinions and thoughts and collaborates. They don't think their opinion 79 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:24,840 is the only one that matters. They don't talk over people. They don't take credit for success 80 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:34,460 while finding someone to blame for the failures. All five of you matter. You have equal voices, equal 81 00:08:34,460 --> 00:08:40,780 votes, your opinions, your perspectives, your lived experiences are all equally valid. 82 00:08:41,980 --> 00:08:46,120 There isn't anyone at this table that matters more than the other four. 83 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Belplain needs good leadership, it deserves good leadership. 84 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:56,760 Not infighting, not cursing, not leaving meetings early, and not speaking over others. 85 00:08:57,860 --> 00:09:03,380 A new year is almost upon us, gentlemen, and for the sake of this city, I genuinely hope 86 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:06,220 to see much needed change when it arrives. 87 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,080 Thank you for listening. 88 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,140 Can I follow up with one question, Rachel? 89 00:09:11,540 --> 00:09:11,840 Yes, sir. 90 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,580 During the preliminary budget, 91 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 you printed the incorrect tax percentage amount. 92 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:18,940 And I reached out to the Henderson Independent 93 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:22,640 and had you wanted you to correct that in the next article 94 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,640 and that was not done. 95 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:26,320 So you are relaying bias information. 96 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:30,240 The preliminary one, are you talking back in September? 97 00:09:30,460 --> 00:09:30,700 Yep. 98 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,960 I do know you reached out to me. 99 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:39,360 I do know I had printed a correction if you'll I would be happy to look that up on our archives 100 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,540 and if I'm speaking I'll happily correct that on the record but I do know I do remember 101 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:51,880 receiving a correction from you and I do remember running a correction so I would be more 102 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:57,240 than happy so look into that for you and I know there's been people here where we've had 103 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,980 correct information and they've reached out and we've made 104 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:09,120 I think Cynthia, we had a very lengthy correction that you sent us, I think last year, I'm always happy to correct the record. 105 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:12,340 And I always apologize when we do have an error. 106 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:19,840 And I apologize for putting that. I thought that you had made that article on Wednesday, so I apologize to that. 107 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:28,080 No. And truthfully, it would be very difficult for even a Tuesday night meeting to make it simply because of the time it takes to put something together. 108 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:34,400 And the fact that it's not just enough to write it, it has to be designed, it has to be put on a page, it has to be proof. 109 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Like, I mean, when there's elections, I will be up until 4am, getting that data, compiling a story, getting it designed, 110 00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:48,040 and then I'll be back up at 7 to finish the paper by noon. 111 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:53,240 And I'm just going to remind everybody that concerned citizens of the plane is a private Facebook group, 112 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:56,480 which means the admins own the content, not anybody else. 113 00:10:57,020 --> 00:11:02,040 So that information is going to be used for you to monetize and need to be correct. 114 00:11:02,820 --> 00:11:03,540 It is. 115 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:07,440 And I was also I used to be a member of that page until a few months ago. 116 00:11:07,580 --> 00:11:10,200 I noticed that I had been removed and banned from that page. 117 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,720 So I didn't have a way to address the comments on that page. 118 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,180 I didn't have a way to address the comments on that page. 119 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,660 I didn't have any comments on that page. 120 00:11:16,660 --> 00:11:18,640 Rex, this is another forum. 121 00:11:18,820 --> 00:11:23,340 You're not allowed to talk here, so I did have three residents reach out to me on Saturday 122 00:11:23,340 --> 00:11:25,460 between eight and noon and one of them said, wow. 123 00:11:25,460 --> 00:11:27,260 You must have really ticked the council off. 124 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 They're talking crap about you online. 125 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:33,040 I was in the 820 AM at breakfast with Santa. 126 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,060 That wasn't how I would like to start my day. 127 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,120 But it was something multiple residents reach out to me about. 128 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,980 So I just want to correct that record that the budget meeting 129 00:11:44,980 --> 00:11:46,980 had nothing to do with last week's paper. 130 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:48,140 It was already printed. 131 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:50,640 Thank you. 132 00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:52,460 Hold on. 133 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:52,900 Hold on. 134 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:54,160 Hold on. 135 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,750 I would have to go back and look at that. 136 00:11:59,810 --> 00:12:08,010 I know that the bell plane side, we print about 740 papers a week, but there are people 137 00:12:08,010 --> 00:12:10,410 outside of bell plane that want that news to. 138 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:12,650 So I'm not going to say they're all bell plane residents. 139 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,000 So if you want, I could look that up and email you at a later date. 140 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,220 Anyone else have question for me? 141 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:26,180 Thank you. 142 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:37,120 All right, anybody else, I want to speak tonight at 12th of warm. 143 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,460 There is anybody? 144 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,540 Tracy, high in three, 15 south-seater street. 145 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:56,540 I haven't been paying attention to that budget. 146 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,100 Was the budget passed? 147 00:12:58,460 --> 00:12:59,980 Is the budget not passed? 148 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,060 It's on the agenda tonight. 149 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:03,540 It is on the agenda tonight. 150 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,420 Okay, that's what I need to be clear. 151 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:05,980 Thank you. 152 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Thank you. 153 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:15,860 Hi, my name is Chris Lens. 154 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,340 977 farmers rich trail. 155 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,940 I just started to come out tonight. 156 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:28,200 get out from behind the keyboard. I think budgets pretty much sailed for this year, but I hope 157 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:35,120 you're listening to people when we say these increases are not sustainable. I've been 158 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:42,900 in finance for 30 years. All I do is balance budgets. Easiest thing in the world is just take 159 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:49,660 last year's and slap a contract increase on there and keep going forward. 160 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,540 That's not leadership, that's not moving things forward. 161 00:13:55,300 --> 00:14:01,380 We need to take hard books that are spending, I think you've got a whole room full of people 162 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:04,380 here who agree with that. 163 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,220 Thank you to the council, thank you to the city, you guys do a thank-less job, especially 164 00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:16,200 finance. We're always the bad guy who gets stuff cut out. I'm asking you guys 165 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,780 start being the bad guy. This town has a spending problem and I go to city 166 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:26,640 council meetings with the Minneapolis City Council and St. Paul in much 167 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,900 bigger jurisdictions. That's my job. I've done her for 30 years and this is 168 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:38,900 are more dysfunctional. So I'm asking do better. Thank you. Do better. 169 00:15:01,010 --> 00:15:06,070 Nobody else wants to speak, I'll move on. One final call here, everybody else wants. 170 00:15:10,350 --> 00:15:34,570 Approval of consent agenda, truth and taxation minutes of December 1, 2025, regular session minutes of December 1, 2025, work session minutes of December 1, 2025, resolution 25147, except in a $2,000 grant from the Minnesota Chiefs, a police foundation for the 2026 cooked line in hero's fishing derby, resolution 25148, except a $4,000 171 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:38,610 dollars grant from Comp here financial for the Bell plane ambulance emergency response 172 00:15:38,610 --> 00:15:44,050 equipment. Resolution 25149 except a thousand dollar donation from Chevy Drive event for the 173 00:15:44,050 --> 00:15:51,430 Bell plane police department. Resolution 25150. Pointing Rick Crand as a regular member of the economic 174 00:15:51,430 --> 00:16:04,410 development authority. Resolution 25151. Pointing Brian Robnes and Genese Arts as members of the 175 00:16:04,410 --> 00:16:11,590 Smith's Ryan Ramness in Jim Eggers is regular members of the point as regular members in a pointing 176 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:18,150 Antoinette Walsh is alternate of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Resolution 25153 pointing 177 00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:25,310 Antoinette Walsh is a member of the Parks Commission. Resolution 25154. Resolution improving 178 00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:32,870 in terms of a rose loan program to paint in them, enterprises LLC, 106 Main Street East, 179 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:39,630 Resolution 25157, accepting a $1,000 donation from Scott County Air Culture Society 180 00:16:39,630 --> 00:16:45,530 for the Belt Clean Fire Department, and with that, I will look for a motion with the addition 181 00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:51,650 of Resolution 25159, a proving premise permit for the German days in corporate at C.O.H. 182 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:57,630 that one. All motion. All second. I would motion by Otto on the second by 183 00:16:57,630 --> 00:17:01,910 Hartman, all those in favor. I vote. I have stain. 184 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:08,600 One of stain Renee, four 185 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,100 days. 186 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:13,980 Commandee, we are receiving the Department reports. Community service 187 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:18,060 department is report only tonight. Please refer your questions and 188 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:20,940 administrator. Myers, we'll get those answered to you. Ambulance 189 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,800 permit. Ms. Burton. 190 00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:26,240 Good evening, Mayor and council. 191 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Do you want me to just go through our runs first? 192 00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:32,420 Are you okay with us talking about the. 193 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:34,540 Yeah, whatever you want to talk about. 194 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:34,940 Perfect. 195 00:17:35,580 --> 00:17:38,480 So as you have in your packet, I do have our previous 196 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,080 months runs. 197 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:42,900 Are there any questions on those at all? 198 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:46,030 You want to answer? 199 00:17:46,690 --> 00:17:47,330 Open the council. 200 00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:48,250 Any questions? 201 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,060 No questions. 202 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,700 All right. 203 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:59,040 a little bit of history with our pages. So, as you saw, I did get a grant for us to get 204 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:05,020 some more pages back just to give you a little bit of a brief history. Probably for five 205 00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:11,460 plus years our primary way of getting an ambulance call out for a backup crew for a 911 call 206 00:18:11,460 --> 00:18:16,540 was a system called active 911, which comes across our cell phones. We are still going to continue 207 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:21,560 to do that, but we've noticed recently that we've had an issue with cell phone outages. We 208 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,760 probably all seen them differ types of phones, 209 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:24,720 everything else. 210 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,540 So we wanted to make sure that people were aware 211 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:29,420 from our staff when there was a call. 212 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:33,460 So I took the initiative to get Patre's back on, 213 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:35,800 getting those grants, getting some funds. 214 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:37,960 One of the hiccups we found in Belplane 215 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,980 was a history of a piece of equipment called a store 216 00:18:40,980 --> 00:18:41,500 in Broadway. 217 00:18:42,060 --> 00:18:43,640 Essentially, it took in the information, 218 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,600 processed it, and sent it out. 219 00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:47,500 It was located by the old water tower 220 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,520 and it continued we got hit with lightning. 221 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,320 It hasn't been functional, and I'm going to guess fiveish years. 222 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:59,760 So the lease agreement we had with that, essentially we just met with Elfa and said that 223 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,760 this is just not a good place for it, because it continues to get hit. 224 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,120 We don't want it to mess with the city's infrastructure, stuff like that. 225 00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:12,380 So we had a meeting and we thought the best place to put this tower would be for a new 226 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:15,040 antenna with repeater is on the fire station. 227 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,540 So that is what Cynthia had drawn up the new 228 00:19:19,540 --> 00:19:21,940 Alisa Grieman for you guys to take a look at. 229 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,280 I also brought with me another one of our Ambulance 230 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,420 Vanders John Shikings. 231 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,600 You've had actually more IT or technical questions 232 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,260 because that is not my forte, that's him. 233 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,240 But please let me know if you have any questions, concerns, 234 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,740 ideas, that's Mayor Council. 235 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:41,520 The action for the Alisa Grieman is later on the agenda 236 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,800 for you to take action. 237 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:43,900 Thank you. 238 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:47,030 Open the council. 239 00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:48,870 If there are any questions, comments, concerns? 240 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:54,550 I just want to comment good for you for reaching out, finding a grant and getting those 241 00:19:54,550 --> 00:19:54,770 funds. 242 00:19:55,330 --> 00:19:55,870 That's awesome. 243 00:19:56,430 --> 00:19:57,210 Thank you. 244 00:19:59,730 --> 00:19:59,890 Please. 245 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:14,200 All right, good evening, Mayor and council. For the month on November, your police department had on 19 criminal cases, resulting in 49 offenses. We wrote 192 traffic citations in mornings, and we had 624 calls for service. 246 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:20,040 Clearance rate for the month of November was 95%. So I can take any questions that you have. 247 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,660 Good evening Mayor, council members, you have a copy of our report. 248 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:42,080 We had 34 calls last month for service. 249 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:44,900 We happy to answer any questions. 250 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:46,740 Open the council. 251 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,220 I just have one question at the bottom of your report. 252 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,760 It talks about extraction equipment that was broken. 253 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,820 for damaged in that we replaced that. 254 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,540 It's been ordered. 255 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:03,420 That equipment was 30, 30 years old, and it's 256 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:04,800 couldn't be repaired anymore. 257 00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:09,000 So, let last this lifespan. 258 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:11,860 That answers my follow-up question. 259 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:12,760 Thank you. 260 00:21:28,770 --> 00:21:46,510 I want to call that individual, I want to call that individual, I'm sure there's questions that I can find, but maybe you could address that how it might be on. 261 00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:49,470 So, 262 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:59,670 the reason for our ladder truck, and it's actually considered a nine-story ladder, it's 263 00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:00,890 a hundred and nine feet long. 264 00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:07,450 The problems we have with cul-de-sax, setbacks from the houses. 265 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:14,610 Some of our mutual aid towns have 75 foot ladders, and they don't even come close to the 266 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:23,230 And one of them is actually in the middle of purchasing a truck similar to what we have. 267 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:28,610 So the setbacks, we're not always going up straight up 190. 268 00:22:30,510 --> 00:22:39,110 And then in our rural area, the farmers are a lot of big operations that have 90-foot 269 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:44,510 green bands. So if we have a green band rescue, we need to get to the top of that thing. 270 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,570 So it's not all about going 193 straight up. 271 00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:52,810 So it's the biggest thing in the city is the 272 00:22:52,810 --> 00:22:59,910 setbacks. Can't get close enough to the horses. So kind of like a re-trolver where there's 273 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:03,950 maybe no alley access or something like that. Right. If we have to come off a front of 274 00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:15,710 And just so everybody's aware, that truck was proposed to be purchased here in 2026, I believe, 275 00:23:16,830 --> 00:23:18,970 and the cost of a new truck is $3 million. 276 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:23,010 And it's four-year wait-time on that. 277 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:28,150 And we got lucky, one of our neighboring town in shock, if we had this truck for sale. 278 00:23:29,490 --> 00:23:37,150 So, we got it for $500,000, and they left $100,000 worth of equipment on there, which 279 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:38,710 is city, what it had to purchase. 280 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:44,090 So, it was a good deal all around for the city. 281 00:23:48,810 --> 00:23:49,210 Thank you. 282 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:53,310 There's no further comments, questions, concerns on the button. 283 00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:57,130 Can you leave the development department, Mr. Smith-Drak? 284 00:23:57,130 --> 00:24:02,810 Good evening Mayor Council, I report us in the packet and I'm pleased to take any questions. 285 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:04,250 Hello, I'm the council. 286 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:10,060 Questions, comments, concerns? 287 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,760 I'm a done. 288 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Business presentation claims 8.11 per request number 12. 289 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:19,380 The final for Project 1 construction incorporated for the Fire Station 290 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:22,760 Edition and Renovation underneath that amount tonight. 291 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:27,160 It is $364,546. 292 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320 dollars and seven cents without all the promotion. 293 00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:33,880 I'll move on the polio. 294 00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:42,060 I have a motion by Heartman in a second by Stacey, all those in favor. 295 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:51,060 I'm an A and I'm an A and I'm an A. Resolution 25155, a resolution, a proving, an authorizing 296 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:54,740 execution, communication, sight, lease agreement with Ridgeview Medical. 297 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,960 With that all the promotion. 298 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:07,010 I 299 00:25:09,090 --> 00:25:17,650 would just note that the lease agreement is in the packet. I think ambulance manager Burton did a nice job of explaining how we got here. 300 00:25:18,010 --> 00:25:28,550 We did have a similar antenna in repeater system on our self water tower. This one is proposed to go on a fire hall temporarily. 301 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:34,550 There isn't any new access holes that will be made in the building. 302 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:37,330 It'll all be through existing bending. 303 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:40,730 The agreement, a couple of important things to note, 304 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:44,970 it set up for a term of five years with an option to review after year three. 305 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:47,790 It contemplates an annual lease rate of zero, 306 00:25:47,950 --> 00:25:50,990 since the city does contract with Ridgeview for service. 307 00:25:51,290 --> 00:25:56,610 It requires Ridgeview to provide insurance and a sketch of where the equipment is going. 308 00:25:56,610 --> 00:26:06,610 It is based on that previously agreement we have and it's proposed for approval and execution via resolution to 5155. 309 00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:08,610 Thank you. 310 00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:13,610 With that, I'll look for a motion on 25155. 311 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,680 All motion. 312 00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:18,760 I'll second. 313 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:24,020 I have a motion by heartman and I heard auto second first. 314 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,780 All those in favor. 315 00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:33,620 I post most carries resolution 25158 approving increase the para for the fire department. 316 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,560 I'll have done from this over one more time. 317 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Thank you, Mayor Council. 318 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:51,640 So in January, the fire department did switch over to the para plan effective on the first of 2025. 319 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,600 The benefit at level at that time was established at 5,500 per year of service. 320 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,560 Council has discussed it twice in budget work sessions. 321 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:08,000 The first time they discussed not providing an increase because there was lack of certain 322 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,640 information. 323 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,120 At the December 10th meeting, Council was provided additional information and there was additional 324 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:15,720 discussion. 325 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:21,260 At that meeting there was a consensus of the majority of the council to move forward with 326 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:29,300 adding the $100 increase for benefit level to the fire department for retirement. Attached 327 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,120 is your resolution for consideration. 328 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,900 And I just want to clarify this is paid for by state aid correct? 329 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,820 So the state aid for the fire state aid money that the city receives goes to 330 00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:47,400 Pera. At this time, at this benefit level, at the proposed increased level, it does not show that 331 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,100 there's any additional required municipal contribution. 332 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:51,360 Perfect. 333 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:52,440 Thank you. 334 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,240 With that, I'll look for a motion on 25, 1, 5, 8. 335 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:56,940 A motion. 336 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,240 I have a motion by Hartman and a second by Evans. 337 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,000 All those in favor. 338 00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:03,060 Opposed. 339 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Motion carries. 340 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,940 Ordnance 25, 2, 0, men, fee schedule. 341 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,300 And I will hand this one off to. 342 00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:15,710 Administrator Meyer. 343 00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:16,670 Excuse me. 344 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:28,390 Mary and Council, this ordinance review and resolution for summary publication was tabled at the last meeting. 345 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:37,620 After that tabling, there was discussion at the budget work session about changing fees at the Aquatic Center. 346 00:28:39,140 --> 00:28:45,460 The Council has three options. Option A, you can consider action on the ordinance this evening. 347 00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:53,140 With the updated aquatic fees, they are not, they do not require additional publication or a public hearing. 348 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Option B, you can consider action on the original fees that were proposed and then address the aquatic fees in January. 349 00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:06,580 Or option C is considered decision to not contemplate. 350 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:16,480 The fee schedule is back in there also includes the language for charging credit card fees directly to the user. 351 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,060 That was part of the discussion and direction of council earlier this year. 352 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,400 I'll be happy to take any questions. 353 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:27,240 The ordinance and the resolution are there for your contemplation. 354 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,240 All over in the council. 355 00:29:37,890 --> 00:29:39,570 There are no questions, comments, concerns. 356 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:43,890 I'll look for a motion on 25, 20. 357 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:48,690 I need a little clarity there. 358 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:49,770 Action. 359 00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:52,050 We have three different options there. 360 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:52,990 A, B, and C. 361 00:29:53,410 --> 00:29:54,050 You kind of laid them out. 362 00:29:54,450 --> 00:29:54,710 Yep. 363 00:29:55,690 --> 00:29:59,930 So the original ordinance and resolution were tabled for action. 364 00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:06,710 Then, at the work session, there was discussion about making changes to aquatic fees. 365 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:12,690 After a discussion in research, it doesn't require additional public hearing for that. 366 00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:27,890 So the council can contemplate adopting the ordinance with amended aquatic fees, or you can adopt the ordinance as it was originally proposed, and then address the aquatic fees in January by an amendment, 367 00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:34,110 or you have a contemplation of your other option, which is not to adopt at all. 368 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:39,290 However, we do have fees included in there that would have impact. 369 00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:46,030 Mayor, if I may, just on the public hearing question. 370 00:30:46,450 --> 00:30:50,430 So we bill plain, always when you adopt your fee schedule. 371 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:52,490 We always have a public hearing on your fee schedule. 372 00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:57,830 Just to give a little more color to the reason why this isn't being subjected to a public hearing. 373 00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:02,830 You had one before in the beginning, December, December, December 1st. 374 00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:08,930 So we subject your fee schedule to a public hearing because a few of the fees, right? 375 00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:11,190 You've got a whole bunch of different fees in your fee schedule. 376 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:14,850 A few of those fees are required to have a hearing. 377 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:18,330 And so we just subject your whole thing to a public hearing. 378 00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:24,190 The particular fee at issue here, though, aquatic fees or any recreational fees that the city charges, 379 00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:29,650 There is no law that requires that those kind of fees be subject to a public hearing, so as I understand it 380 00:31:29,650 --> 00:31:38,570 That's really the only substantive change to the fee schedule everything else has been subjected to a public hearing that change in that feed doesn't require a separate public hearing 381 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,100 so the original 382 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,400 fee was an increase for 383 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,540 swimming lessons correct 384 00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:54,560 that was originally proposed at budget 385 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,340 prior to December 1st 386 00:31:57,340 --> 00:31:58,800 if I 387 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,340 There were no changes in aquatic centerpiece prior to December 1st. 388 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,100 There was discussion, but that wasn't changed in there. 389 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:18,140 It was at the, just handing me, we have both sets applied to Council for you to review. 390 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:27,380 So prior to the December 10th work session, no aquatic fees have been changed from 2025. 391 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:38,620 After that meeting, there was a discussion about changing the fees and so we addressed those in the updated version of the piece schedule. 392 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:55,940 I thought because it was noted by the consensus of the council that everything we discussed prior to that consensus was wiped off the table because it was motion to revert back to the proposed preliminary. 393 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:59,940 So I thought all those fees and everything we discussed went away. 394 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:02,160 Do you do that motion? 395 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:05,440 Then it's a misunderstanding from staff. 396 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,140 I believe the direction was to address fees. 397 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,000 It was more about a fee schedule. 398 00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:11,500 It wasn't about the budget. 399 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:13,940 But I can accept that. 400 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,160 That's why the original is on here. 401 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,800 For council to contemplate the original fee schedule as proposed. 402 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,160 What does council want to do here? 403 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,500 And we can look at it in January if we want. 404 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:31,320 I would like to see what we discussed on December 10th. 405 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,540 The minutes, sir. 406 00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:34,700 I agree, I'd like to do that. 407 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:35,700 Why do I mind this? 408 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,840 Let's bring it up and I think I agree. 409 00:33:38,380 --> 00:33:41,960 I agree with this, so after some of the minutes. 410 00:33:47,290 --> 00:33:49,590 So that one has all of the changes discussed 411 00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:53,230 that had a public forum with the addition 412 00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:56,550 to the fee changes to the aquatic centers. 413 00:33:56,650 --> 00:33:57,290 Is that what I'm understanding? 414 00:33:57,290 --> 00:34:00,150 So, remember, you're on the fee schedule. 415 00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:04,130 So, it is exactly the same as December 1st. 416 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:04,270 Okay. 417 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:08,590 However, there was proposed changes for the aquatic center fees. 418 00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:10,570 That's the amendment you'd be making. 419 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:13,510 Sounds good. 420 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:16,810 Yeah, I'll motion for that. 421 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:26,420 I have a motion by Otto and a second by Evans on resolution. 422 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:31,700 and excuse me, ordinance 25, 20, all those in favor? 423 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,460 All right. 424 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:34,400 Post, I'm opposed. 425 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,720 No, just ask for one clarification. 426 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,760 The motion did include to include the amended 427 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,060 aquatic fees as well. 428 00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:42,280 Thank you. 429 00:34:47,470 --> 00:34:53,310 See, moving on here, resolution 25, 143, authorized 430 00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:56,830 summary publication of ordinance 25, 20, all those in favor? 431 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:57,990 All right. 432 00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:59,930 and I'm 433 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:12,080 We need a motion. I have a motion by Evans and a second by Stacey to amend the fee schedule. All those in favour? Aye. 434 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,980 Aye. And I am opposed. 435 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640 And that was for the summary publication, correct? So we just did there. 436 00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:29,380 All right. Mayor and council, just on that point, it's something I've said before, but I just want to make sure we understand what we're doing. So this second action here that the fee schedule got approved. 437 00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:39,440 The second action is just to publish a summary of it instead of the whole thing, so it's just a money saving thing, so it didn't sound like that was understood, but that's what the second action is. 438 00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:41,360 Yep, yep, yep, yep. 439 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,020 Let's see here. 440 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,580 8.5, we had a motion to reconsider. 441 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:06,840 Resolution 25146, adopting the final tax levee collectible in 2026 and the 2026 final budget and capital improvement plan. 442 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,580 So council held work session on December 10th. 443 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,800 that was a consensus of the council to revert back to the numbers that were put in front 444 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,040 of us on December 1st and I have a brief statement. I'd like to read here regarding this. 445 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,580 Bear with me, please. It's lengthy one. 446 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,500 Throughout the budget process, the council has encountered 447 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:43,480 numerous issues stemming from missing information, delayed information, and incorrect information. 448 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,760 The preliminary levy amount did not align with the tax impact percentage, which was voted on 449 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,780 pass and submitted to the county on September 2. 450 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:55,700 Furthermore, it took over two months to obtain the actual regular overtime amount for 451 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,700 the police department, excluding contractual overtime, which is holiday pay. 452 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,140 Despite my repeated request, we did not receive this information until December 10. 453 00:37:05,660 --> 00:37:09,420 Even though the prior, prior to December 1, we had three budget meetings. 454 00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:16,100 During the last budget meeting in November, a council member posed a question regarding the budget, if it did not pass. 455 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,420 I followed up on this inquiry with the Finance Director and City Administrator on November 19th. 456 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:30,860 However, the email sent to all council members on November 21st, failed to mention the potential loss of all state aid and grant money. 457 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,660 Instead, staff presented us the surprise consequences to the council on December 1st, which was stated by the Finance Director 458 00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:42,680 of the city administrator in our city attorney leading to a past motion being tabled. 459 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,840 The council's decision to table the motion was based on incorrect information. 460 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,160 We will not lose state aid grants as a consequence. 461 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,740 The deadline was stated to be the last day in December but it's actually the last day in January 462 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:55,460 for budget deadline. 463 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,900 As council residents and taxpayers, we rely on the experts to provide accurate information 464 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:05,000 and it is essential that we receive reliable data to effectively perform our duties. 465 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,580 The provision of incorrect information presented by staff on December 1st effectively reversed the past motion 466 00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:16,660 Therefore, I strongly oppose this process and request that the council uphold the vote that occurred on December 1st 467 00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:23,420 We were heading back to the 2025 levee in budget amount. We have 45 days to set a budget to match the levee with that 468 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:30,340 I am going to make a motion to deny and revert back to 2025 levee in budget amount a look for a second 469 00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:38,560 I've also had a motion by lad in the second by auto all those in favor I pose. 470 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,560 No. 471 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:43,140 All right. 472 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600 Table tables yours, Rex. 473 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,620 No, we're going to move on. 474 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:48,500 Table's yours. 475 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,840 I can't wait to start the record. 476 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:55,270 Okay, set the record straight. 477 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:57,090 We have two budget. 478 00:38:58,350 --> 00:38:59,570 All five of us. 479 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,060 Sorry, Tracy. 480 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,800 We have three budget meetings before December 1st. 481 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,560 We went through a line by line analysis. 482 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:17,720 Everybody's budget. 483 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,640 Public works, police, fire, line by line. 484 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,160 And I want to thank Rachel Miller for being an adult in the room. 485 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:32,720 But during these three meetings, we got along. 486 00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:36,680 We treated each other respectfully. 487 00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:44,860 Now I'll admit, when I first joined the council, I was bad at this. 488 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:59,580 This was new to me and it was contentious from day one, but we got along for a long time, and 489 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:15,760 At the conclusion of three budget meetings, we had consensus. No statements were made in opposition, no protest were posted by anyone on the council. 490 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:26,400 And at the end of the third meeting, there was discussion about how to proceed because we knew 491 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:34,360 Brady Hartman and his family had planned a vacation to Mexico for months. 492 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,800 So that topic was discussed. 493 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,860 I would urge you, urge you, please. 494 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,020 Don't rely on anyone's word. 495 00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:47,480 Go back and listen. 496 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,020 Go back and listen to that meeting. 497 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,900 They can't because it's not available on the city website. 498 00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:57,780 They have to come down to City Hall and get a thumb drive to listen to that audio. 499 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,000 Come down to City Hall, get a thumb drive. 500 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,160 Have a group, get together, listen to it. 501 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:14,880 Nobody at that concluding budget meeting suggested they would take advantage of Brady's absence. 502 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,180 I don't think anybody took advantage of Brady's absence last Monday. 503 00:41:18,820 --> 00:41:19,900 It's just the way the cookie crumbled. 504 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,040 With Brady was here, it's still what it failed on a three-two motion or three-two vote. 505 00:41:31,110 --> 00:41:33,910 Can I speak? 506 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:36,720 I'm sorry. 507 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,020 Tell you what, I'll steal one from the office and give it to you. 508 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,620 Okay? I would love you to have it truly. 509 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:58,040 But nobody had any idea that on December 1st, 510 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,540 a motion would be made to ignore all the work we had done. 511 00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:10,260 So, we meet again last Wednesday, 512 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:18,560 and I tried to make clear that my position, and let me 513 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:27,540 tell you, I make mistakes all the time, okay, but this was time, I tried to make clear 514 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:34,840 that my position was that I was going to stand by the work the five of us did. 515 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,220 No one was missing. 516 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:43,300 The work the five of us did over three meetings, where there were no surprises. 517 00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:56,740 Nothing was hatched, and so when Mr. Evans wisely made the motion for reconsideration because 518 00:42:56,740 --> 00:43:06,550 If this would have been a travesty to have to trim half a million dollars from the budget 519 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:13,250 where you can't trim, I'm sorry, did you want to say something? 520 00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:16,550 Rex, just continue on with this statement, please don't include audience members in your 521 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:17,090 conversation. 522 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:21,880 I'm sorry. 523 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:25,390 Time with me. 524 00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:25,930 Hey, 525 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:34,800 sir, that's fine with me, you know, and if anybody wants to talk about this with 526 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:43,120 personally and not on concerned citizens, but with me, because I'm barred from it, you can call me. 527 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,640 And I'll talk to you. All I ask is that you'd be moderately respectful. 528 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,820 So I don't have to hang up on you. And Tracy, I already talked to you once, for half an hour. 529 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:15,860 Okay, then listen again to the meeting last Wednesday, where Mr. Evans made the point that 530 00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:20,860 this is not the way to do it. After all the work we had done, as a council, 531 00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:27,080 to throw a stick 532 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:35,260 in the wheel, to upend all that we had done, this needs to be done thoughtfully. And if you 533 00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:40,320 Listen, you'll hear Mr. Evans say, I will work with you. 534 00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:50,580 And if you listen even harder, you will hear me say, yes, I'm willing to look at reducing 535 00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:51,700 costs. 536 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:59,960 I pay taxes to folks, nobody on the City Council wants to increase taxes every 537 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,080 Everybody wants to be more fiscally responsible. It has to be done in a responsible way. One reason 538 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:18,880 it's going up, they're going up everywhere. And consider this. There was a question asked by the 539 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,900 same gentleman that asked about the pocket truck. And I wish I could get a hold of them. I think 540 00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:31,380 name is Mark Warner. I would really like to talk to him because he asked, what's the difference 541 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:38,860 between New Preg and Bell Playing? So I called the New Preg City Administrator and I asked 542 00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:39,720 him that question. 543 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:50,640 And the New Preg, they have more people, they have a much lower budget. And 544 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,400 Two-thirds of their tax revenue comes from industry. 545 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,040 They have a large industrial park. 546 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,080 And they're closer to 35 W, which I'm told, 547 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,200 makes a big difference. 548 00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:10,240 And Highway 8 is going to come to Bell Plane. 549 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:17,480 Bell Plane is out farther than New Craig, Jordan. 550 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:32,260 If you take a $300,000 home in Belplain, if you move that home to Jordan, it's worth $350. 551 00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:38,700 If you move that home to New Craig, it's worth $400. 552 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:46,520 So that's what their tax incomes are based on. 553 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,380 We're kind of stuck in the middle. 554 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:59,450 You know, we're not quite far enough to be rural, 555 00:47:00,410 --> 00:47:03,410 but we're too close to the cities. 556 00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:23,250 And we're honestly my view of I think Bell plane is about the best run city of 7,000 in the state of Minnesota, and maybe that's too much. 557 00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:26,850 You're all saying that that's too much. 558 00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:35,370 We have wonderful service in GalPlan, but make no mistake. 559 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:41,980 Now, I regret taking this job. 560 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,940 Okay, you know, I volunteered when he quit. 561 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:46,120 I volunteered. 562 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,680 And I only have a year left. 563 00:47:51,040 --> 00:48:00,320 And ought to respect to all of you and the rest of my colleagues, and Brady Hartman, really, 564 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,320 is getting a bomb rat for taking a frickin' vacation. 565 00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:06,460 There's this family plan forever. 566 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,800 I will promise I won't leave a meeting again. 567 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,200 I mean, I've been held out of order so many times. 568 00:48:14,620 --> 00:48:16,580 For me, it's easier to leave. 569 00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:20,120 and argue with, yeah, see, see, we were 570 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,620 crambling on about a non-topic about the budget here or so. 571 00:48:27,470 --> 00:48:29,430 But I thought that's what I was talking about. 572 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:30,430 I'll stop, 573 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:43,420 okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 574 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:43,440 okay, 575 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,020 yes sir, 576 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,280 you sure I haven't said too much? 577 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,060 Mayor and council, obviously you're entitled to reopen your 578 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:00,640 public forum or take comment, but can y'all agree to do that? 579 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,960 Please, I mean, this is not your normal process. 580 00:49:03,220 --> 00:49:05,900 Are you going to make a ruling that you want to let people talk? 581 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,600 Which is fine. 582 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,020 I'm fine. 583 00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:08,880 I'd like you to all decide that you're going to do that. 584 00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:09,580 I'm fine with it. 585 00:49:09,620 --> 00:49:11,860 I've rucks a ram along for hours and all that stuff. 586 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:13,580 Ram along for hours. 587 00:49:15,460 --> 00:49:15,920 I'm sorry. 588 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,140 Would you, would you, would you rather I never set a word? 589 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:24,610 Go ahead. 590 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:26,790 My name is Dr. Dale Lauder milk. 591 00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:30,170 I have a doctorate and organization development change. 592 00:49:30,610 --> 00:49:31,250 Evan MBA. 593 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:32,990 I teach college. 594 00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:43,310 Everything you just said makes absolute sense why NewPreg has a better approach to their budgeting. 595 00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:53,520 The question I have is, with all of the budget talks that you've had, you modeled any of that. 596 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,540 Where is our industrial park going to be? 597 00:49:57,860 --> 00:49:59,740 We have Highway 169. 598 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:10,640 That was made into a foreign lane, all the way, turns into 60 down past Mancato, but it goes all the way to Iowa, as a foreign lane now. 599 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,400 It goes all the way into the cities. It is an artery in Minnesota. 600 00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:30,160 But we're talking about spending money on things that don't contribute to what will build that infrastructure that will pay for all this up. 601 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,820 I'll be the first to tell you, I'll be the first to tell everybody back here, in any 602 00:50:33,820 --> 00:50:35,820 going to get better until it gets worse. 603 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,900 But if you're investing in new street lamps and signs and all the other stuff, and I'm 604 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,260 relatively new to town, I've only been here for two years. 605 00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:50,020 But I've heard all the stories, I've heard of all, I've heard all the complaints, and if we're 606 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:55,580 investing in beautification of the community, but we're not putting into the infrastructure 607 00:50:55,580 --> 00:51:01,580 that will bring those businesses in the town, those industries in the town to offset what the communities paying for. 608 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,880 Gentlemen, you're not going to have a community anymore. 609 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,080 These people are going to move. 610 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,460 As soon as my wife will agree to move, I'll be moving. 611 00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:13,480 I'm not going to pay these taxes. 612 00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,800 I mean, I'm going to have to as long as I'm here. 613 00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:20,340 But you're going to run yourselves out of a job. 614 00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:29,680 Why are we not looking at how to take that same money and invest it into something that is going to bring stuff back to the community? 615 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:33,620 That is the question I have got. 616 00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:34,600 Thank you. 617 00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:47,840 So we had a failed motion on the table. 618 00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:54,160 I will open back the council to the motion on 25146. 619 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,560 Okay, say something. 620 00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,700 So I was going to read something here that I wrote some notes, so I just like a few minutes 621 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:01,500 of your time. 622 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:10,920 So as Rex said before, I was the one who voted against the budget, and I just wrote a few 623 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,980 notes here to explain this budget is not good in my opinion. 624 00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:23,100 There are cuts that need to be made, a couple of decisions, I believe her taxes are too high. 625 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,580 I have said that from the beginning. 626 00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:29,220 I did not approve a budget in my first two years. 627 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,600 We spent 14 hours going line by line that yielded 628 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,940 $100,000 in reductions. 629 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,060 Some of those cuts were good, some were bad. 630 00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:42,500 Doing this is a good to learn what goes into each line item. 631 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,880 So I'm glad that we had a chance to do it. 632 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,000 But it did not yield results. 633 00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:49,840 That is what we need to do. 634 00:52:50,420 --> 00:52:54,260 We can't cut jobs and not know who's going to do 635 00:52:54,260 --> 00:53:02,260 the work. We have to reorganize, cut jobs, reorganize, rewrite job descriptions as a lot 636 00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:08,000 of these people employees are on union contracts and their unions tell them what you 637 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,920 can do. We need to, in January, sit down as this is a working budget. This is not a budget 638 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,620 that's set in stone. This is a working budget. And sit down as a council and work together 639 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:29,320 to make bell plane what it needs to be for the next five to ten years. Because as I've said before, 640 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:38,520 the tax increases cannot continue having. This is the lowest tax increase that the city has had in the last 641 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:47,980 I think it was eight years and that you can't sustain that. Make it rash decisions in the final hours 642 00:53:47,980 --> 00:53:54,740 to appear to the public that we know what will happen is unfair to the residents. 643 00:53:56,020 --> 00:54:04,080 So with extreme hesitation, because I absolutely hate this budget, I motion to reconsider 644 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:13,420 resolution 25146 and I motion to approve resolution 25146 in the hopes that the council 645 00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:22,020 we will work next year in January to reorganize and do what's right for the community. 646 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,740 So I have a motion by Evan's, go ahead a second. 647 00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:29,690 I'm sorry. 648 00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:30,050 I apologize. 649 00:54:30,770 --> 00:54:31,830 Can I say something, too? 650 00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:37,230 I mean, I appreciate you speaking for me, Rex, I respect that. 651 00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:39,290 I agree with Mr. Evans here. 652 00:54:40,090 --> 00:54:41,850 I wouldn't say I completely hate the budget. 653 00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:44,070 I believe that staff presented a budget. 654 00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:45,610 that was pretty low and an increase. 655 00:54:46,270 --> 00:54:48,450 We went through it for 10 hours, I think, in total. 656 00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:51,450 I could be raw in that number, and we went line by line, 657 00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:55,410 and we dissected it and cut another 100,000 out of that budget, right? 658 00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:57,750 That's the one that was proposed to you in December 1st. 659 00:54:57,810 --> 00:54:59,590 The one that I failed to meet, because I was not here. 660 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:16,720 And I apologize for my absence. I was, yes, I was in Mexico. I planned that trip. Before I became a city council member, it is where it is. I did tell people a month in advance that I would be gone. And they said, instead of, should we put it on the first or the 15th, they decided to go on the first, that it, my decision. 661 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:30,280 I appreciate you guys all coming out. I appreciate hearing from the community. And you are absolutely right. I mean, we should be focusing on infrastructure. And I think we should do that tactfully, mindfully, thoughtfully, right? We should put time, 662 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,280 enough for it into that. So with James's proposal to address it at the beginning of the season, 663 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,140 and not at the end, that's probably a wise decision. So I will second his motion. 664 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:47,660 And I just want to clarify that the reason the vote took place on the first is because that was 665 00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:52,460 the day we had the public hearing. So I thought they should go together. And that's what I was not pushed back. 666 00:55:55,330 --> 00:56:01,250 So I have a motion by Evans on resolution 25146 and a second by Hartman, all those in favor. 667 00:56:01,250 --> 00:56:02,010 Aye. 668 00:56:02,450 --> 00:56:03,050 Opposed. 669 00:56:03,330 --> 00:56:03,770 Aye. 670 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:06,850 Resolution. 671 00:56:07,550 --> 00:56:07,890 I'm sorry. 672 00:56:08,010 --> 00:56:09,490 Motion carries three or two. 673 00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:15,370 Resolution 25156, approving city employee wages and salaries for 2026 with that 674 00:56:15,370 --> 00:56:16,490 I'll look for a motion. 675 00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:20,900 All move. 676 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,560 I'll second. 677 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,140 I have a motion by Stacey and a second by Herman, Allows and Baber. 678 00:56:32,020 --> 00:56:32,480 Opposed. 679 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:42,100 Um, before we go on and move on to administration and upcoming tenant meetings, 680 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:51,260 I would like to add a discussion, I would like the budget workshop audio placed on the city 681 00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:56,180 website along with the meeting minutes for those corresponding meetings. 682 00:56:57,740 --> 00:57:00,260 Can I get two people to agree with me on that please? 683 00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:01,680 Yes. 684 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:02,920 Thank you. 685 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,100 Thank you. 686 00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:11,860 redistution ribbon cutting Monday December 22nd to o clock PM CD office as closed 687 00:57:11,860 --> 00:57:16,160 At twelve o clock PM in residence of the holiday on Wednesday December 24th city offices 688 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,880 clothes and observance of the holiday on Thursday December 20 fifth city office 689 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,900 as closed at 12 p.m. in accordance in the holiday on Wednesday December 31st City 690 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:29,780 offices closed and observance of the holiday on Friday January 1st Design Monday 691 00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:34,790 Jan .5 5 o clock PM City Council Monday January 5 6 o clock PM Work 692 00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:41,130 Question Monday January 5th 615 p.m. with that I will offer a motion adjourn on motion second 693 00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:48,090 I will motion by Otto and a second by Hartman to adjourn all of those in favor. Hi, I suppose we're adjourn. Thank you 694 00:57:49,590 --> 00:57:54,370 I was only held out of what order once we're making progress 695 00:57:57,590 --> 00:57:58,110 Thank 696 00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:15,430 you