[3:00] So I guess we'll call the meeting to
order. Um starting with the
[3:06] acknowledgement of treaties of peace and
friendship.
[3:09] We would like to begin by acknowledging
that the land on which we gather is the
[3:12] traditional unseated territory of the
Mcmack peoples. This territory is
[3:16] covered by the treaties of peace and
friendship which Maliset Mcmack and
[3:20] Pasoquati peoples first signed with the
British crown in 1726. The treaties did
[3:25] not deal with the surrender of lands and
resources but in fact recognized Mcmack
[3:29] and Malice title and established the
rules for what was to be an ongoing
[3:33] relationship between nations.
Next one is our oath of office. We do
[3:39] hereby accept the office of counsel and
will diligently, faithfully, and
[3:43] impartially discharge to the best of our
ability the duties of the office as may
[3:47] be imposed upon us by law.
And we'll move on to number two,
[3:53] adoption of the agenda. Is there any
additions or deletions?
[3:59] If not, we'll move to motion.
>> Motion 109 that the agenda be adopted as
[4:04] presented. Could I get a mover
[4:11] seconder?
[4:14] » I'll second.
>> Any questions to the motion.
[4:20] All those in favor signify by raising
your hand. Motion carried.
[4:29] Any statements of conflict of interest?
None.
[4:35] So, no presentations, petitions, or
delegations. We'll move into number five
[4:40] business starting with 5.1.
[4:46] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. So, uh we're
hopefully going to be able to uh
[4:51] finalize our uh procedural bylaw here.
Um so, you've all been provided with a a
[4:57] copy of the latest clean version um of
the uh of the bylaw. So, we'll work off
[5:03] of that. Um the uh only feedback that
that administration really received we
[5:08] got some feedback from Brenda on it so
we'll can kind of work through I I don't
[5:11] think we need to um there is a a lot as
we progress through it but it's more
[5:17] kind of administrative type stuff just
sort of clean up and and uh that type of
[5:21] thing. So there is some discussion that
we need and some direction that we need
[5:23] but I think the best thing to do is kind
of run through the the whole thing.
[5:26] We'll go through it relatively quickly
and just take a look at some of the uh
[5:30] suggested changes that were made. Um, so
no changes made on the first page. On
[5:36] page one, everything there seems to be
in order. Page two, uh, we do have some
[5:40] cleanup on the table of contents. So,
we've got that and we can make those,
[5:45] uh, those are just going to match the,
um, uh, the items that we added down the
[5:50] page. So, we have um item P will be the
repeal, Q will be enactment, and item R
[5:56] is going to be for review.
[6:02] Um outside of that, we're into um
definitions on page two and there was no
[6:08] changes there. We can move on to item
page three.
[6:15] Uh was suggested changes around
emergency meetings. Um so it referenced
[6:20] a section which is uh correct that
shouldn't really be. There's a lot of
[6:23] 4.1s in here. So we'll specify section E
in emergency meeting. So emergency
[6:29] meeting means a meeting convened
pursuant to section E meetings of
[6:34] council emergency meetings is how we'll
do that rather than having 4.1
[6:39] [snorts]
[6:44] outside of that. No other changes on
page three.
[6:52] No changes identified on page four. So
everything on page four will remain the
[6:59] same.
[7:05] No changes made on page five. Everything
there will remain the same along the way
[7:11] here. Council, if anyone has anything,
if jumps out, we're we're looking at
[7:14] this. If there's something on page five
that you want to address, just let us
[7:17] know. But um
the the most uh recent version that we
[7:22] have on this has no changes, so it's
page five.
[7:26] » [snorts]
>> Page six, no changes suggested, so
[7:31] everything would stay the same.
Okay. On page seven, there was a couple
[7:36] recommendations made.
[7:41] Um,
so there was a suggestion um in item
[7:47] number one, meetings of council. Uh, the
first one uh is a little preamble to in
[7:52] a first sentence. A newly elected
council shall hold its first formal
[7:57] meeting on the day prescribed by the
local governance act uh added in as a
[8:02] sentence prior to a newly elected
council.
[8:07] [snorts]
Outside of that, at the end of item
[8:11] number one, a suggestion made that the
clerk is responsible for administering
[8:15] administering the oath of office to
newly elected council members.
[8:20] » And actually, just to point that out,
that's right in the legislation.
[8:22] » Yeah. And this Yeah, this is right from
the legislation. Yeah. Uh
[8:27] following that, the first formal meeting
of council [snorts]
[8:32] after a quadranial election shall be
held not later than the 15th day of June
[8:36] following the council's election. again
right from the uh legislation with that.
[8:47] Um what we might be able to do I could
probably um share my screen so that
[8:54] council can see I know that Brenda sent
this out already but should I do that?
[8:58] Should I share my screen just so you
guys can see the wording that's
[9:01] suggested?
>> Sure.
[9:02] » Sure. Okay. One second here.
[snorts and clears throat]
[10:22] Can we see this
kind of
[10:33] » So, here's the suggested changes. A
newly elected council shall hold its
[10:36] first formal meeting on the day
prescribed in the local governance act
[10:40] followed uh the sentence at the end. The
clerk is responsible for administering
[10:43] the administering the oath of office
oaths of office to newly elected council
[10:47] members and the first formal meeting of
council after a quadrronial election
[10:51] shall be held not later than the 15th
day of June following the council's
[10:54] election.
all from the legislation.
[11:05] Okay. So then there was a suggestion on
item five. Um
[11:12] so this is referencing the the
electronically um televised uh
[11:17] component. So it doesn't uh Brenda made
a note that it doesn't address the
[11:21] public recording meeting. So I don't
know Brenda if you want to touch on
[11:24] that. Well, I think we talked about this
initially and at that time there seemed
[11:28] to be the majority or most of council
felt that they had no objection to
[11:33] somebody in the public recording it
because ours is the official recording
[11:37] regardless. So this just more or less uh
refers to television or
[11:42] telecommunications company. So that
whole question I don't know if we need
[11:46] to clarify it in there that anybody and
whatever but I know it was discussed and
[11:52] some felt it wasn't a problem.
[11:57] [snorts] I don't have an issue with
people recording our our meetings. Um I
[12:02] would include something here about us
posting to
[12:07] uh our YouTube channel. That's a if it's
in the bylaw, it's required so that
[12:12] people have access to the meetings and I
I don't I don't know what the live
[12:17] streaming issue is. I know we we are
constantly [snorts] but [clears throat]
[12:23] » Yeah. So, and and that's a good point.
So, like as of just as an example, right
[12:27] now we can't live stream. they've got an
an IT ticket open through our service
[12:31] provider on the live stream um to uh
little device that that connects to
[12:37] YouTube [snorts] completely out of our
hands. And the only from from the staff
[12:42] side, the only reason I would be
hesitant to do something like this is
[12:45] that it's it's not stipulated by
legislation that we have to stream or
[12:51] that we if we put it in here, we do. Um,
but if something like this happens where
[12:56] it's kind of out of the control um uh of
uh of Bel Dune that we can't live
[13:02] stream, I I don't know what kind of if
you're creating more issues down the
[13:06] road.
>> No, but if that's what I'm saying is is
[13:09] if it's not included in here that it's
live streamed, we're still recording and
[13:14] the the meetings are still posted to
YouTube. And I think I think it's
[13:17] important that we continue to post the
recordings to YouTube. So if something
[13:22] is included in the procedural bylaw that
meetings will be posted to YouTube.
[13:26] » Yeah.
>> Then
[13:27] » yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. The the
live stream and actually just real quick
[13:31] in our last conversation you had
mentioned something about there being an
[13:34] item in there about uh a residual thing
from COVID which was accurate. Yeah, we
[13:38] went back and uh when we were when co
just so council was aware there was a
[13:43] catch in in this where um when there the
public was not allowed to be here um
[13:50] municipalities were allowed to have
their council meetings um you know
[13:54] contained but they had to put in the
agenda where people could go to to be
[13:59] able to to see it and hear it. So that
was uh something that was raised during
[14:02] the last session. So yeah. So you want
to add something in here just around the
[14:06] YouTube uploading to YouTube
>> and basically we could say that that's
[14:09] the official municipal
>> okay
[14:12] » record or some sort because even though
somebody else records it and then they
[14:16] cut it and paste do whatever they can
>> that's what I was going to say I I am
[14:22] opposed to it being recorded if we're
not live stream
[14:26] » because as your point is that's exactly
the point I was going to make is that
[14:31] we're not live stream or that it can up
uplifted to YouTube,
[14:36] » right?
>> Anything can be recorded and manipulated
[14:39] in how we said it. So, uh, if we're if
we're not if we're not ha having it on
[14:45] YouTube, I would be opposed to
recording.
[14:48] » Okay.
>> So, that's why I say we can say that's
[14:50] the official recorded record. That's the
municipal's official record, legal
[14:55] record, you know, whatever wording, but
[snorts] and and we'll be up. It will be
[14:59] posted on YouTube. If it's not live
streamed, it'll get there a day or two
[15:03] later, whatever, but it will be up.
>> Okay. So, so yeah, we don't we don't
[15:08] need to set a date for when it would be
on YouTube. We're just saying it will be
[15:11] on YouTube. We're going to be adding it.
Um, okay. So, that this is going to be
[15:15] an item five. So, what we're going to do
is we're going to include language uh
[15:18] along the lines of um council meetings
will be uploaded to the uh official
[15:26] village of Beldune YouTube channel and
will uh be considered the official
[15:34] um digital recording uh something along
those lines.
[15:38] » Would you call it uploaded or would
probably be Is there a difference
[15:40] between uploaded and streamed?
>> Yeah, [snorts] stream means you're doing
[15:44] it live. Stre stream generally means
that you're doing it live. Yeah. Whereas
[15:47] uploading Yeah. Uh I just uploaded all
of our We've had previous meetings
[15:52] around this. So I've just uploaded all
of those. We haven't we didn't stream
[15:55] them. So they're all on YouTube now. Uh
and so that's just
[15:58] » that's because I don't want to be up
that stream without a paddle.
[16:00] » That's right. That's exactly what it is.
>> I I would probably add to that it would
[16:04] be the um official unedited recording.
>> Yeah.
[16:10] » Okay. Yeah, that's a good point too.
What we were what we did do before was
[16:14] um if there was like a a closed session
um and council was in close session for
[16:19] like an hour, we would go to those uh
and really I guess we we could
[16:23] technically still do that because if if
it's going to reprimmen uh represent the
[16:27] the official version of it if we were in
close session for, you know, an hour and
[16:31] 20 minutes, we would go back and edit
and just take out that hour and 20
[16:34] minutes. So it just wasn't Otherwise,
you get an hour and 20 minutes of the of
[16:37] the lights off, the lights off and
nobody home. Uh but um but yeah, we can
[16:43] we can work out the details. The last
few that we've done, we've just uploaded
[16:47] them. We haven't edited them, so we just
put them right up there. Okay. So, we'll
[16:51] work on putting language around that.
[17:06] Okay.
[snorts]
[17:08] Carrying on from there. There was
nothing else on page seven.
[17:15] Page eight, there was no recommended
changes.
[17:25] Page nine, there was no recommended
changes.
[17:36] Page 10, there was no changes.
>> [snorts]
[17:45] » Okay. Page 11, there was a recommended
change in item G for agendas.
[17:50] [snorts]
[17:59] Um just clarity we have in there right
now uh in item 2A it's specifying on the
[18:06] Wednesday prior to the Wednesday regular
meetings uh suggested change on the
[18:10] Wednesday of the previous week.
>> Yeah because if people can interpret
[18:14] that Wednesday morning I can send you an
agenda item um I can send you an agenda
[18:20] item on the same Wednesday as the
meeting. Right. Okay. because of two
[18:23] Wednesdays. [snorts] It kind of makes it
>> sure. Yeah.
[18:35] » Uh and then after that, uh Brenda
specify kind of how and when.
[18:40] » Yeah. Uh
only council. Yeah, that was about uh
[18:46] spending removing an agenda item, I
guess. [snorts]
[18:51] » Okay.
to collectively make determine whether
[18:54] Yeah.
>> So,
[18:56] » yeah. And this was one um just as a
carryover from the previous meeting
[19:00] where council just wanted language sort
of put in there around um it not being
[19:06] removed. [snorts] Uh only council acting
collectively may determine whether a
[19:11] dually submitted antig agenda item is to
be withdrawn or deferred. Um so that's a
[19:17] good question. Is that done [snorts]
uh when is is that done when you adopt
[19:22] the agenda? Is it done ahead of time?
You would suspect that it's going to be
[19:25] done ahead of time.
Um so if there's some discussion for
[19:30] around that,
[19:37] but I think those fall under General
Roberts rules of order, [snorts] right?
[19:41] So the agenda item can can remain on the
agenda when that item comes up. then the
[19:48] person who makes the who submits the
agenda item can withdraw it,
[19:52] » right?
>> And council as a collective can defer
[19:55] it. So I don't know that that needs to
be in there necessarily,
[19:59] » right? Because that th those are
procedural like Robert's rules of war
[20:02] standing and that's it's addressed in
here anyway.
[20:04] » Okay. I think
and I know this is our actual
[20:13] so
I'm sorry rather than have to go to
[20:17] another document to clarify I find it's
easier sometimes if it's spelled out
[20:21] right in this document
>> but I think it's
[20:23] » in this one
>> yeah
[20:27] sorry we do we do talk in here about uh
deferring an item and withdrawing an
[20:34] item
[20:58] Just I do have a question on on page 11.
The la the very last item item three
[21:05] says any additional matter not included
on the agenda shall only be considered
[21:09] with the majority vote of all members of
council present at the meeting. So
[21:16] is that saying that if a council member
was missing
[21:20] can't consider that or are we saying
that it's only the members present all
[21:25] the members present at the meeting?
I believe that reads that um any
[21:32] additional matter not included on the
agenda. So if you want to add an agenda
[21:36] item
um I believe that I'm reading that to
[21:40] mean that you need a majority of council
to add that item to the agenda
[21:43] » at the meeting.
>> Right.
[21:44] » The majority at the meeting.
[21:49] » Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just want to be
sure.
[22:20] I don't like how we've structured number
two here.
[22:24] um on on the regular meetings
um when I read that motion and reports
[22:31] for local government business by members
of council and staff shall be submitted
[22:35] on the standardized agenda form. So
that's fine. We've included that that
[22:38] was referenced previously and it's now
in this document as appendix A down at
[22:41] the end. Uh with all relevant
information and documentation to the
[22:45] clerk from council members in writing or
by email for inclusion in the agenda
[22:49] packages for the meeting of the council
not later than 400 p.m. on the Wednesday
[22:54] of the previous week prior to the
Wednesday regular meetings. And once an
[22:57] agenda I think this B item is a
standalone item. It's not it shouldn't
[23:01] be a B. It doesn't. Yeah, I think that I
should uh reword that just to have um on
[23:08] the Wednesday of the previous week
specified for the 4pm but then have a
[23:12] separate it wouldn't be a B. It would be
a standalone sentence
[23:17] » probably, right? It would be a number
three and then all the other numbers get
[23:20] adjusted down.
So, I'll make that adjustment.
[23:25] Uh but but getting back to the
suggestion here, uh the the when and how
[23:30] suggestion. So
I think Brenda, just for clarity, we are
[23:34] trying to determine when and how it may
be um
[23:42] removed, withdrawed or deferred.
>> Defer would be definitely deferred would
[23:48] happen definitely at a meeting.
>> At a meeting, right?
[23:51] » A withdrawal. Just wondering if that's
would be something that you know and how
[23:56] Yeah. just how that would get withdrawn
or if it's at a meeting like uh
[24:00] councelor Robinson said maybe it's only
the person that put it on the agenda
[24:04] right
>> that can withdraw it from
[24:19] You could also just add that to the
sentence. Uh basically uh deferred
[24:26] according to the latest edition of the
Robert's rules order.
[24:42] Okay. Do we want to do we want to move
forward with that? Um, we could say
[24:47] it's to be withdrawn or deferred um
according to the most recent version.
[24:52] Would that cover it?
[26:02] for a defer from what I can what I can
see like who gets the deferred emotion
[26:08] or
>> Yeah. And it's always been something
[26:11] that's come up um is that like how do
you how do you negate an agenda item? I
[26:16] know this council sort of the the
prerogative is you kind of don't, right?
[26:20] Like you leave it up to the person that
put it on. Um so I'm not surprised that
[26:24] Robert's rules wouldn't have something
specific to that.
[26:28] » Well, to defer is um addressed in
section L, procedures for regular and
[26:34] special meetings under motions 3D to
defer. the question to uh say when a
[26:40] motion is being moved and seconded and
is being considered by council. No
[26:44] motion shall be received except a motion
D to defer the question to a certain
[26:48] time or date
>> may be debated. So anybody can defer uh
[26:53] anybody can defer
>> as we used to like to table. Anybody can
[26:58] do that
>> but there's no nothing in definition to
[27:01] withdraw a motion.
Yeah, I'm still reading through that
[27:05] section to see if it
>> I I know we discussed it because uh
[27:13] » okay, it says in two
>> section two.
[27:15] » Yep.
>> After motion has been written to the
[27:18] clerk and stated by the chair pen, it is
possession of council for considering
[27:21] but with the consent of majority of
council by motion and without debate it
[27:25] may be withdrawn at any time before it
has been voted only at the request of
[27:30] the mover. Okay, so it's covered. later
on.
[27:33] » Yep.
>> Okay. So then the only change there is
[27:37] that we're going to take that B out and
move it to an item three.
[27:40] » Yep.
>> Okay. Awesome.
[27:46] » Okay. We'll carry on to page 12.
[27:57] Uh in item six, copies of the agenda
shall be made available to the general
[28:01] public. at the [snorts] office of the
clerk.
[28:03] » Sorry.
>> Can I go Sorry, [laughter]
[28:05] » that's okay.
>> Can I go back to B just because if we're
[28:09] leaving it as that, it contradicts what
we've said in section L because it says
[28:15] um only [snorts] council acting
collectively may determine whether a
[28:19] duly submitted agenda item is to be
withdrawn and that's not the case. Only
[28:23] the person who has moved it can withdraw
it.
[28:25] » Okay,
>> according to our definitions later um or
[28:28] deferred that's that's collectively as
council. So I think that whole section B
[28:32] is covered in
>> section L. So it can be it can be
[28:37] eliminated
from there.
[28:41] » Okay, we can take that out if it's
covered in other areas.
[28:57] Okay, are we good with that, council?
Then item B is going to just be removed.
[29:03] Okay. Kind of a chasing tail thing, but
it's good. You got to go through the
[29:07] process, right? So work work yourself
through it and then that was one that we
[29:11] added in. But if we got we recognize
that it's somewhere else, then that's
[29:14] great.
Okay. Um page 12.
[29:19] » Great. And I think number three, I'm
going to go back to that one again, too.
[29:22] Sorry. Um we did discuss having
that
[29:28] that you could not add items to an
agenda where there wasn't a full council
[29:32] present because the majority present if
there's three people present.
[29:37] It's a it's an easy way to sneak
something on there that [laughter]
[29:40] that you know even with people absent
then it's been done. So, it's that was
[29:46] one I we did have some discussion about
not allowing
[29:49] » I would agree with that. All of council
should be present. All members of
[29:54] » Yeah. Not just a majority where if if
you've got a special meeting and
[29:58] only three members of council and the
mayor president, then it it just sets up
[30:03] for
>> getting stuff passed, right? That it's
[30:07] like, oh, I'm going to seize this
opportunity to get my item on there
[30:10] because I know. So should we change the
language to say any additional matter
[30:14] not included on the agenda shall only be
considered with all members of council
[30:19] present
>> by majority
[30:25] which
all
[30:29] » so is it unanimous vote on all the
council members agree or majority of
[30:35] council
>> okay but the concern the concern here is
[30:39] that all members of council are present
Right.
[30:45] » So is that what you're looking to change
is unanimous.
[30:50] » Right now it's majority.
>> Yeah.
[30:52] » So how do you
[30:56] per
>> personally I you know I I understand the
[30:59] point and it is a very strong point that
uh we can say all of council but there
[31:05] are issues that all of council won't
agree on. So I I'm I'm in favor at this
[31:11] stage of saying the majority of council,
>> which is what that's how it's written.
[31:17] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[31:26] » But that's the way it reads now, right?
[31:32] » All of
members of council present at the
[31:37] meeting. Okay.
>> Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. It's
[31:41] saying all the majority of the
counselors who are at the meeting and
[31:44] you want it to say all of the
counselors,
[31:47] » period.
>> Yeah.
[31:50] » Okay. I see what you're saying. Okay. Um
Okay. We'll we'll we'll words smmith
[31:57] that.
[32:02] » Yeah. Okay. I I get I get Yeah, I get I
get where you're going. It's a It's a
[32:06] nuance. Yeah. I know it's uh
>> Okay. [snorts]
[32:08] » Any additional matter not included on
the agenda shall only be considered with
[32:13] full um I had the word it's gone with
full com with full composite of council
[32:19] with full counsel by majority vote
>> something that like means you have to
[32:25] have all six members at the table. Okay.
[32:32] » Yeah. Full full composition.
Okay,
[32:43] I'm not moving from this item until you
guys tell me to. Is there anything else
[32:46] on it? [laughter]
[32:49] Okay.
I don't want you to be quiet. I need I
[32:53] need you to speak up.
Okay. Page 12.
[32:59] Um,
item six. Copies of the agenda shall be
[33:03] made available to the general public uh
at the office of the clerk during office
[33:07] hours or on the website of the village
of Beloon [snorts] by 9:00 a.m. of the
[33:11] day of the meeting.
>> I think that's what we have in there
[33:15] already.
Oh, should be okay. Sorry, you're making
[33:19] a point. Should be earlier than this.
>> Yeah, because if the if there if it's
[33:23] just not early enough for the public to
get the information that we're getting,
[33:27] right, they should get it very close to
the same time. We get ours first. Theirs
[33:31] should come up very shortly after.
>> Yeah, you're right. So, we we try to
[33:35] make uh post notices uh as best we can
24 hours ahead of time. Um and at the
[33:42] same time, we've got a process in place
now. So, when the agenda goes out, uh it
[33:46] goes to um uh administration and it gets
posted right away. So, do we want to try
[33:51] to include language that replicates sort
of to the best of the ability 24 hours
[33:55] ahead of the notice? See, the point
about the 24 hours is we're we're
[34:00] allowing that that question period for
public, right? Question, comment. So, if
[34:05] they're only getting the information
just shortly before the meeting, plus it
[34:10] says somewhere down the line here that
they have to notify the clerk with their
[34:13] questions and comments. So, there's just
no time to do that. I just me
[34:17] personally, I feel that it should be as
close as possible after the council get
[34:21] their we get ours on Friday. I would
really like to see the public get theirs
[34:25] on Friday as well.
[34:30] » Um, just to that point, Landon, it won't
be the same agenda that we're sending
[34:35] out. So, you know how we're saying like
we CC Britney now and then she posts it,
[34:38] but it's not the same agenda that's
going to be going out to [snorts] public
[34:41] because remember we said we have to go
through and anything that's to do with a
[34:44] closed session, any of the financials,
that all has to be removed beforehand.
[34:48] So, Britney won't be posting the same
thing that we send to council. Mhm.
[34:52] » But it won't take long to go through and
remove those.
[34:54] » But we're getting our we're getting our
agenda on the Friday with all the
[34:58] pertinent information. Um you know that
if there are some questions to the
[35:05] agenda, it gives council time before it
goes out to the public to over the
[35:10] weekend type thing. you know, you can
read your package and then, you know, I
[35:16] I'm I'm looking I I I understand your
point, 9:00 on the Wednesday, but even
[35:21] if I said 9:00 on the Tuesday, you know,
prior to that type of thing, because if
[35:27] if council has some questions on the
agenda, then that would allow time to
[35:33] modify the agenda on the Monday before
it's posted, right?
[35:44] I
>> I would look probably at at Monday at 4
[35:47] releasing it.
>> Yeah,
[35:49] » that's that's
>> Yeah.
[35:54] Sorry, what was that?
>> But if Monday's a holiday, Tuesday
[35:57] morning at 9:00.
>> Yeah.
[36:00] » Yeah.
[36:03] » Monday seems to be the always the
holidays.
[36:05] » That's why we change our meetings to
Wednesdays. So
[36:11] Well,
and I like I said
[36:15] » I don't
I like I said the fact that councelor
[36:19] Burke had said about you know gives
council time to make the adjustments.
[36:23] Um, but normally if everything has went
in the way it should have went in, there
[36:27] should be very little adjustments that
would be required by council, right, to
[36:32] change the agenda at that time if
everybody submitted their document the
[36:35] way they're supposed to because we said
you can't really take it off the agenda
[36:39] if everything has been submitted
properly. So, I don't know what the
[36:42] changes that council would make to the
agenda, be honest with you, um, after
[36:46] they receive it. So [snorts]
>> yeah, to the clerk's point, we would
[36:51] have to we are going to there's going to
be a bit of a learning curve um just for
[36:57] when the agenda goes out and then we're
going to modify it. Um, so do we want to
[37:02] try to include language here that says
essentially when
[37:08] um, you know, on the same day that
council receives their agenda,
[37:14] then there's an attempt to release it to
the public.
[37:19] I I don't know if this is an appropriate
statement, but I'm going to say it
[37:22] anyway. You know, [clears throat]
council members should be showing
[37:28] respect for council members. So, when
you're talking about changes,
[37:35] I mean, it should only be something
administration received over the weekend
[37:40] and wants council to be aware. I mean,
you know, when when we're trying to
[37:46] reinvent the wheel here, you know, I I
understand a word or two can make a
[37:51] tremendous difference, but by the same
token, in my opinion, if you're trying
[37:56] to manipulate the system, you're trying
to show lack of respect for your fellow
[38:01] council members. And, you know, let
let's let's use a little common sense
[38:07] here. and and you know I mean I I do
agree with the CEO's comment that there
[38:12] is going to be a learning curve but you
know
[38:17] respect it'll go a long ways in trying
to deal with issues
[38:24] » in terms of what they were saying like
with what I know with the for the staff
[38:27] to be able to get the public one out
initially what you may have to do like I
[38:32] said is once you take out the document
you don't have to it might have to be
[38:35] like a scan PDF document and upload it
as one big document for the public,
[38:39] right? Versus where they would click in
and see it would just maybe have to be a
[38:43] scan of everything and one document
uploaded until we have the ability to be
[38:48] able to do it otherwise. Um, so
>> sorry. No, I think that we we do have
[38:56] because it's all the nice thing about uh
ICOMs is it puts it out in a PDF format.
[39:00] So, we do have the ability to manage
PDF. So, so, um, I I think we should be
[39:05] able to kind of do it relatively clean.
So, there there would be a learning
[39:08] curve. I'm just trying to sort of work
my way through the timeline. Like, uh,
[39:11] Angela would finalize the the, um, the
agenda and then per this procedural
[39:17] bylaw, she would have until, sorry, what
did we have the Thursday? Sorry, when
[39:23] are you going to get it out? Friday.
>> Friday. Friday at 4 p.m.
[39:29] » Now, we have to get our items in place,
>> right? So, you got to get your items in
[39:33] on Wednesday. She's got to have the
agenda item, the agenda packages out to
[39:37] council for Friday at 400 PM. [snorts]
Obviously, that's not conducive to us
[39:44] also getting it
posted to the public for 4 p.m., right?
[39:49] there's an adjustments even just the uh
administrative type um adjustments then
[39:56] then
>> but would leaving it till Monday really
[40:01] be I mean like council B said
if [snorts] we're getting it Friday
[40:06] afternoon and they're only getting it
>> Monday
[40:08] » Monday afternoon or early Tuesday
morning they still have a whole two days
[40:13] » to look it over
>> y so maybe um
[40:16] » yeah you could go with like you said the
fact that it could be Monday by 4 and in
[40:20] the event of a holiday it will be
Tuesday by 9.
[40:23] » Would that make sense?
>> I think so.
[40:25] » And that just simplifies it to covers
holidays. Everybody has time for
[40:43] uh we'll do Monday at um 400 pm
and then we'll just put wording in
[40:50] around the holiday. Um yeah, in event of
a holiday Tuesday.
[41:01] I did also add resolution reports.
>> Just added the word reports in there.
[41:10] » Yeah.
[41:18] » Sir, you're looking at number seven,
right?
[41:20] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[41:26] All right.
[41:32] Uh, moving down on page 12. Um,
continuing on page 12, clarity around,
[41:38] um, again Wednesday of the previous week
prior.
[41:43] » Yeah, just on number seven, I changed I
just scratched because we're talking
[41:48] about reports by members of council. I
just changed the word statements to
[41:51] reports and added regarding municipal
business.
[41:57] if that's acceptable everyone.
>> Yep. Yep.
[42:07] » Okay, cool. Moving down to the committee
of whole meetings. So again, replicating
[42:12] uh I I would say that this would just be
the same language with the uh when and
[42:15] how.
Um
[42:20] we did
[42:26] Okay.
>> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. That's item A. Yep.
[42:31] » Yep. No, that's good. C. Uh, we struck
out item B previously
[42:37] uh on the So, we'll do the same thing.
>> Three. Yep.
[42:40] » Yep.
>> Perfect.
[42:46] » Excellent.
>> Same for six.
[42:52] » Okay. Uh continuing on to page 13,
uh item six,
[42:59] » just be a repeat date of the previous
six.
[43:03] » Okay. Yep. And we can just replicate the
uh Monday
[43:10] 400 p.m. in the event of holiday blah
blah blah.
[43:17] Okay.
[43:25] Um, moving down on page 13 and H, public
participation. Just clarity uh made here
[43:31] at the committee poll meetings that was
not specified. So, we can add that in
[43:35] just to uh so the public's aware that
these will now be during the CO.
[43:43] Uh, which is great by the way. Just so
council's aware, we're uh we got a lot
[43:47] of uh incoming requests for
presentations to council.
[43:51] [clears throat]
>> I do I do have a question on that. The
[43:56] the chair is the direction in which any
meeting is directed.
[44:04] So when the chair would allow a member
of the public to speak,
[44:12] I I'm just wondering is council
comfortable with that? And that's why
[44:16] I'm bringing it up because I am. I I
believe that the chair should have that
[44:21] authority to be able to ask a question
of the public freely. And I'm just
[44:26] wondering how the rest of council feel
about that.
[44:30] » You're saying for the chair to ask the
questions to the public?
[44:33] » No. No. I'm saying if if if if an issue
is coming up on council and we're we're
[44:38] discussing that issue, that's already
happened a couple of times already and
[44:42] the chair asked the public, do you wish
to comment on that or do you have a
[44:47] question on that? And I I want to I mean
personally I believe the chair should
[44:54] have the right to do that. I just want
to be sure that it's not something
[44:58] that's going to rise in the future that
there'd be some objections. Uh, so I
[45:03] have no objection with it. I believe the
chair should have that authority and I'm
[45:06] just wondering if the rest of council
feels the same way.
[45:11] » Yeah, I think he was refer you're
referring to the example where we had
[45:15] the presentation on the flexo
>> and open open it open the floor and
[45:20] things like that. Uh because I I'm not
opposed to that. that I believe as chair
[45:25] he should have that authorization to go
to the to to ask those or to direct it
[45:29] that way should you feel free to do so
and I I don't want to be debating that
[45:35] in public if something controversial
should arise I'm just trying to clear
[45:39] the air on that issue right now
>> um if it comes to like you said
[45:43] somebody's making a presentation to
council and it and it affects the
[45:46] community somehow I don't have any I
just I just was kind of curious as to
[45:50] whether we're doing business uh council
business and the chair would ask the
[45:54] public for comments. I don't believe
think that should be. But if it's a
[45:58] presentation where information's been
shared with us and and the public, then
[46:02] you want to, you know, I'm just kind of
a little worried if if we're doing
[46:05] council business, I wouldn't want to see
ask for public opinion at those times
[46:09] because it it, you know,
[46:25] Sorry, I'm just looking at what we have
right now. Um,
[46:29] no, I don't think that it needs to be
specified. Um,
[46:34] yeah. Yeah, I I think you're right
though, Jimmy. It's pretty much uh Okay,
[46:44] » just on number two, I did this where the
Wednesday of the previous week again,
[46:49] the same as before because you say 2 PM
on Wednesday prior to the Wednesday
[46:53] meeting.
>> Yeah.
[46:54] » So, we just have to make sure to put
that the previous week.
[46:59] So,
[47:05] » uh, yeah. Sorry. Where was that, Brenda?
[47:11] » Number two, when they get their
information in, says not later than 2
[47:14] p.m. on the Wednesday.
>> Gotcha.
[47:16] » Yeah. Again, we have to [snorts] put up
the previous week
[47:18] » because they may assume, well, 2 o'clock
on Wednesday, I can put something in for
[47:22] Wednesday night meeting.
>> Yeah.
[47:27] That would be right in this section
here, right?
[47:29] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[47:32] » Perfect. Okay. Uh item number three.
Upon receipt of information accordance
[47:35] with the proceeding uh one subsections
G2, that's incorrect. We renamed that to
[47:40] H. So that should be changed to H2.
[47:47] And uh the change from regular to
committee poll meeting.
[48:01] Okay.
[48:06] Uh no changes on page 14.
>> And that that was uh I didn't make any
[48:14] changes, but I made a note. Um, it was
about the questions request to add to
[48:19] the persons must be submitted by Miss No
later. So, if they're only getting the
[48:23] package on if the public is only getting
the package on Monday or Tuesday.
[48:30] » Um, and I think this was saying it was
referring to the previous week. They
[48:34] couldn't really submit their questions
the week before they get the agenda. So
[48:40] that you do so they do if they want to
be on for the question comment period if
[48:44] I understand this correctly they have to
submit the questions to the clerk prior
[48:49] to the meeting
>> right
[48:50] » so if they're only getting the package
on Monday or Tuesday
[48:55] when would they have to exactly have the
questions into the clerk
[48:59] » okay so I went through the same process
in in my mind um at about 3:00 in the
[49:04] morning on one of the nights and I was
thinking
[49:07] » does council want are Are we structuring
this so that they can only ask questions
[49:13] that's on the agenda of that month or do
you want to say they can ask questions
[49:18] from pre a previous agenda? Because
you're right, if they're they only have
[49:23] they get the agenda, they're going to
get it on the Monday and they have until
[49:27] maybe Tuesday and then they only have a
day to review it and submit the
[49:31] questions. There's not enough time to
put their questions together and get it
[49:35] to to the clerk. So, does council want
to consider saying that questions from
[49:42] the public are available for the current
and previous regular meeting agenda or
[49:48] previous month's agenda, something along
those lines?
[49:52] [snorts]
>> Yeah, I think people should be able to
[49:54] people should be able to talk to
>> what was on the agenda the month before,
[50:00] right? At least not people aren't
necessarily going to read the package,
[50:04] but they might watch the meeting and
say, "What is that about?" Exactly.
[50:07] » Right. So So they I mean I
>> I don't know. I I I don't see the
[50:12] problem people asking questions.
>> If it's an item that has been dealt with
[50:16] by council or is being dealt with by
council, whether it's this month,
[50:20] » three months ago,
>> if they've got questions, they should be
[50:23] able to ask. from my perspective when
I'm just looking at you know that how we
[50:27] have this process laid out to me
inherently the questions are going to be
[50:30] about the previous month
>> right
[50:35] » or or they may have a comment what on
the agenda of this month that council
[50:41] I'm just wondering why they have to
submit it ahead of time in writing
[50:45] » yeah I I think that limits people and it
it's it's very offputting and
[50:49] intimidating for a lot of people to have
to submit it in writing
[50:53] rather than show up, sit through
whatever section they have to and just
[50:58] say, "I have a question." [laughter]
Right? Like, and if it pertains to
[51:02] municipal business, then it we we I
don't like putting up roadblocks for
[51:07] people to have an opportunity to to
speak and ask a question or make a
[51:12] comment because when I read this on with
with other agendas, it didn't have any
[51:16] specification that like when you make a
presentation, petition, delegation,
[51:20] that's a whole different story. But just
this small question period they had like
[51:24] where we allocated 10 minutes two two
minutes per person uh the chairman if it
[51:29] if it's not related to anything that
should be discussed they could make that
[51:33] call but I just I just they just seem to
open the floor that for that 10 minutes
[51:38] to give the public an opportunity to
speak to agenda items or previous agenda
[51:43] items and uh just to let them have that
10 minutes two minutes per person
[51:48] without having to be so formal and by
submitting Okay.
[51:52] » Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
>> That for me.
[51:56] » Yeah.
>> If there's something we can answer, then
[52:00] uh council should have the opportunity
to uh to respond to their questions. If
[52:05] we can't, we'll say
>> as long as it pertains to
[52:09] » Yeah.
>> village.
[52:10] » The other side of the coin is all all
questions should be directed to the
[52:16] chair. So, no council member should have
to answer a question other than coming
[52:21] through the chair and the chair can
determine whether it's a viable question
[52:25] or not.
>> That it's just standard.
[52:29] » Yeah.
>> And and then if the if the mayor want or
[52:32] the chair wants to direct it to a
council member to respond, it would keep
[52:36] that that control and that order. For
sure.
[52:40] » Agreed.
>> So,
[52:45] » okay. But how does that impact
your item I which is your public
[52:52] comments and questions on 14?
>> It should basically it should be just
[52:58] that that there will be on there's that
10 minutes slot time slot allocated uh
[53:05] allowing two minutes per person whatever
>> uh must address council true to chair.
[53:11] » Yep.
uh at the microphone port. I'm sure and
[53:16] it has to be on on either their current
agenda items or previous meeting agenda
[53:23] items,
but I don't like I said I don't think
[53:27] the formal of writing is kind of not
what like like you said it kind of
[53:33] » so so are we going to allow for example
someone to say okay I have a question
[53:37] then they come to the to the podium and
then it's more of a statement than it is
[53:42] a question. So, um, you know, I don't
like this and I don't like that and this
[53:48] type of thing. I'm opposed to that that
it should be you have a question, you
[53:55] ask the question, you sit down, then the
question is answered.
[53:59] » That contradicts your you've got it as
public comments and questions. If you're
[54:03] going to do that,
>> you might have to remove that comments.
[54:06] But I believe the comments are important
because like I said, somebody from the
[54:10] public may say something to us that we
have no idea about and it may help us in
[54:15] our deliberations and our debate. So,
uh, yes, I know we're going to have the
[54:19] odd ones and again, the chair is going
to be the guy that's said that's going
[54:23] to have to, you know, call it the order
and stuff, but I believe, like I said,
[54:26] we're six people in this room, eight
people in this room with the staff.
[54:30] We're not all the smartest people in the
room and probably not all the smartest
[54:34] people in the community. So somebody
might be able to just assist us
[54:38] sometimes with some information that we
didn't know. So I think comments are
[54:42] important as long as they're kept within
the realms of the municipal business
[54:46] that we're supposed to be talking about.
Not slanders, not insulting. And even if
[54:51] they say they don't agree with us,
that's fine. That then we know they
[54:54] don't agree with us. But that's okay.
You know,
[54:56] » people have a right to tell you you made
a bad decision like it. That's
[54:59] » I'm not disagree with you.
>> That's right. No.
[55:04] » Done in a proper respectful manner.
>> I'm okay with that.
[55:08] » Okay. So, how does that impact I members
of the public may request to speak under
[55:14] the agenda heading uh public comments
and questions on matters that relate
[55:17] directly to an item appearing on the
agenda of the upcoming meeting. So, that
[55:22] we're going to adjust, but but the whole
whole idea of the sentence really
[55:26] doesn't apply. I don't think they have
to request members of the public may
[55:30] speak under the agenda headings.
>> Yeah.
[55:33] » On matters that that part that could
still stay. Yeah.
[55:36] » And then the bottom the two other
sections could probably be taken out and
[55:39] then the bottom one.
>> So, sorry. Sorry. Just to continue your
[55:42] thought. Members of the public um may
speak under the agenda heading uh public
[55:48] comments and questions on matters that
relate directly to an agenda item
[55:54] » because we're we're not going to specify
an upcoming agenda item.
[55:58] » Okay.
>> Or an item oh sorry or sorry it's
[56:01] already captured there an item that
appeared on the agenda the previous
[56:04] meeting.
>> So if we keep it
[56:06] » like that.
>> Okay. And then if we take out paragraph
[56:09] 2, paragraph 3, and then paragraph
three, uh, four states that it will be a
[56:14] 10-minute time slot only, would each
individual only be given two minutes,
[56:19] and if only two come up, then it's four
minutes. You know what I mean? You don't
[56:22] get to stretch it because only and uh
members of the public may address
[56:27] council through the chair
at the microphone or at the podium
[56:31] microphone to ensure audio is properly
recorded. So long as it's directed to
[56:35] the chair
[56:40] » and just a word thing.
>> Yeah.
[56:43] » Issue
>> uh in the first um paragraph uh or an
[56:48] item that appeared on the agenda of a
previous meeting instead of the previous
[56:53] meeting. It let it allows them several
months, right? So just substitute.
[56:57] Perfect. Thank you.
[57:07] Okay.
Members of the public may speak under
[57:11] the agenda heading public comments and
questions on matters that relate to
[57:17] relate uh directly to an item on the
agenda of the upcoming meeting or an
[57:24] item that appeared on the agenda of a
previous meeting. Okay. Uh next one gets
[57:30] done gets uh omitted.
Uh next one gets omitted. Public
[57:37] questions and public comments and
questions will have a 10-minute time
[57:40] slot allocation each uh with each
approved member of the public limited to
[57:46] two with each approved member of the
public.
[57:49] » I would say instead of approved
recognize so the mayor would recognize
[57:52] that person right as being able to
[58:00] With each recognized member of the
public limited to two minute time slots,
[58:05] members of the public must address
council through the chair at the
[58:09] microphone at the podium to ensure audio
is properly recorded.
[58:12] » And I don't know if we want to put
something in there to the fact that they
[58:15] should state their name like you know
when they come they should state their
[58:18] name when they come to the podium.
[58:30] Sorry, no one lets me hear my phone
buzzing.
[58:36] » Yeah. One second. Just put members of
the public must public must state their
[58:42] name, address the council to the chair
uh at the podium.
[58:47] » Yeah.
>> Microphone whatever to ensure audio is
[58:49] properly recorded. So,
>> perfect. [snorts]
[58:53] All right,
>> almost there.
[59:00] » Okay, I think that's it for page 14.
Moving on to page 15. Uh so yeah, this
[59:06] was one that um so interesting. Just so
council is aware, we got this really
[59:10] great tool that uh is done through
Microsoft uh Microsoft Copilot.
[59:14] Excellent for when we're drafting this
type of stuff. Um and you can put a
[59:18] document into it and it it will actually
refer to it. So you can ask questions on
[59:22] it and we were uh I was using this tool
and uh it put in you know the the
[59:28] process for the uh submitts and uh the
tool actually even though it had the
[59:33] document completely um went over the
conflict of interest. So we've actually
[59:38] filed with Microsoft on feedback for it
um because it was in direct uh conflict
[59:45] with what was actually supposed to
happen. Uh so we will include in here
[59:50] submitted to the local uh governance
commission.
[59:52] » And just for record uh we don't submit
the official document. The official
[59:57] document stays with the municipality.
[snorts] I think they said you can just
[1:00:01] send a a scanned email copy to them.
>> Yep. So they've actually I reached out
[1:00:05] to them and they've sent the process. Um
so it's just an email that needs to go
[1:00:08] in. Uh they do um we've sent in all of
the forms that council did at the
[1:00:15] beginning. Um, and we have not we
haven't had any uh since then, but when
[1:00:20] we get one now. So, they've they've
given us the process. It's just a real
[1:00:24] quick email that we shoot over to them.
>> And the thing with your system, it might
[1:00:27] have come up like that because I know
the commission office was asking for the
[1:00:31] government to take that out that they
didn't have to get copies, but that
[1:00:35] didn't get changed. So, they'll still
have to get copies.
[1:00:38] » But what I think was that when I was
using the tool, I was specifying
[1:00:43] commissioner.
I think that's where it was it was
[1:00:47] bunging up was that I was like where
what commissioner does it need to go to
[1:00:50] and it says it doesn't have to go to a
commissioner and then I said yes it does
[1:00:54] and then I and then I went back and I
used 91 and I put it in and I said this
[1:00:58] specifies that it needs to be submitted
which commissioner and it came back and
[1:01:01] said no you don't have to send it to a
commissioner so it was this uh fight
[1:01:05] [snorts] this fight with AI
[1:01:12] » okay outside of that no changes on
>> [clears throat]
[1:01:21] » Uh, page 16, no changes.
[1:01:28] Page 17, no changes.
[1:01:36] 18. No recommended changes.
I think that we are
[1:01:43] through.
and 1920.
[1:01:47] » [snorts]
>> was only like I said
[1:01:52] » we had never talked about
the previous one we had two years right
[1:02:04] » our review [clears throat]
>> with that
[1:02:21] Sorry, what was what would you use? Two
years.
[1:02:24] » That's what we did for the enumeration
bylaw. So that would bring us this
[1:02:28] council will review it once and then the
next election whoever that council is
[1:02:32] they could review it early in their
mandate as well if they want to make
[1:02:37] changes.
>> We'll just cut and paste the same that
[1:02:39] we used for the uh remuneration bylaw.
Just a note that your first reading it
[1:02:45] should say by title on the bottom just
for
[1:02:50] » Gotcha.
>> The other thing I I noticed too like
[1:02:53] sometime I don't I didn't look at your
last version but sometimes when we're
[1:02:56] writing in like we have uh say for
instance clerk and a small C and clerk
[1:03:00] and a capital C.
>> I'm [snorts] going to go through
[1:03:03] » that's just a clean up. You know you
take
[1:03:05] » I'm just going to do a find and replace.
Um, we've got a bunch of regular
[1:03:08] meetings where it's a lowercase R
>> and I just want to go through just clean
[1:03:13] it up [clears throat]
[1:03:21] » with the posting that we're going to be
doing and we're up against the clock on
[1:03:25] that. So, our intent here is that this
is going to be worked on today,
[1:03:28] finalized. Your guy you you guys are
going to receive a copy of this today.
[1:03:32] Um we're we would need to post it next
Monday. Next Monday Monday is a holiday,
[1:03:37] so we're going to post it tomorrow
instead. Uh so we're a little bit ahead
[1:03:40] of time. Um with the posting, the idea
is that this is a 20page document and
[1:03:47] then it saves us from having to read it
in its entirety. So uh it's it's
[1:03:51] prescribed um on how we do that. Would
that last reading then be considered to
[1:03:56] be in its entirety or all three would be
by title? That was the one question.
[1:04:02] Okay. I'm not sure of yet, but there's
third reading. Yeah,
[1:04:06] » I'm I'm going to verify that.
>> Yeah.
[1:04:08] » Okay.
>> I was supposed to say
[1:04:15] » Okay. So, um what do we think? Uh
[1:04:22] I mean, keep in mind that um [snorts] we
still as this sort of unfolds and we get
[1:04:28] used to it and see how it goes. It's not
to say that it can't be revisited. We
[1:04:32] can make amendments to this. Um it would
be a repeal and and a new bylaw uh put
[1:04:36] in place. So it's you know your your
hands are not completely tied that you
[1:04:40] can't adjust this again for two years,
right? Something comes up that we find
[1:04:44] out is remarkably not working. Uh then
you know we can we can address it. But
[1:04:49] um
>> something could come up in the
[1:04:51] legislation
that makes a difference. Yes.
[1:04:57] » So, should we pass this bylaw here at
the next public meeting, which would put
[1:05:02] us into the September?
>> Mhm.
[1:05:05] » That means our meetings would change for
October and into the Wednesday. Now, is
[1:05:10] it it's still going to be the first
Wednesday and the third Wednesday?
[1:05:13] » No, it's not. It's going to be the
second Wednesday and the fourth
[1:05:15] Wednesday.
>> Second and fourth. Yeah. Okay.
[1:05:17] » Uh and that that aligns with um the
service commission. They've been doing
[1:05:21] theirs on the third. Yeah, [snorts]
>> I think too is when we do get to the
[1:05:26] 21st and we are going to do this by just
like if it's I think it's important that
[1:05:31] maybe a document be prepared to
highlight some of the changes just to
[1:05:35] read out to like the Wednesday meetings
the public comments the public
[1:05:40] presentations are going to you know what
I mean just a few of the really
[1:05:42] highlights that affect the public
>> so that they know
[1:05:47] » yeah that's a good idea changes yeah we
can uh we can put a little cheat sheet
[1:05:50] together for
>> yeah just because we're not going be
[1:05:53] reading it. And even if you did read it
fully in its entirety, by the time the
[1:05:56] public left, they wouldn't still know
what it was, what the highlights were.
[1:05:59] So,
>> no, I know.
[1:06:07] » Okay. I mean, if council's uh satisfied
with that, uh we'll bang that out one
[1:06:12] way or another, you're going to get it.
It might be a little bit later tonight,
[1:06:15] but you'll get it tonight. Um
so unless there's any feedback from
[1:06:21] council I think we could probably move
on.
[1:06:22] » Okay.
So I can move right to um we don't have
[1:06:27] anything presentation with council no
administration stuff. So we'll go right
[1:06:31] to section 9 adjournment
>> motion 110 that the meeting be adjourned
[1:06:37] at 2:35 p.m.
>> I need a mover.
[1:06:43] So move
>> seconder.
[1:06:46] » I'll second
>> the question.
[1:06:50] All those in favor signify by raising
your hand. Motion carried.