1 00:00:00,599 --> 00:00:06,919 good afternoon and welcome to the Comm adjustment meeting for February 20th 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,840 2025 Brian I'll be caring the meeting today first order of business is any 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:17,720 secary interest by any of the board members take that as a no our first 4 00:00:15,639 --> 00:00:24,279 application today is an application for consent 34 call Street East in valvo the 5 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:29,679 owner is Pathways to Independence and staff thank you chair the subject 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,160 property is located at 34 College Street East 7 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:36,680 and currently consists of a legal non-conforming 4unit dwelling this 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:42,480 consent application proposes to sever the northern portion of the property to 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:47,760 create a new lot for a one unit detached ding the lot is currently Zone R1 which 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:53,000 does not permit the existing four unit dwelling therefore as a condition of 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:58,199 consent a resoning is required to reone the lot to an appropriate residential 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Zone staff notes that the city is undertaking a residential intensive 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,680 ation project which includes a zoning byw amendment to reone specific 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:14,200 corridors within the city from the R1 Zone to the R2 Zone the zoning byw 15 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:18,439 amendment was approved on February 10th and affects this property once the 16 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:23,119 appeal period expires the subject property will be Zone R2 and the 17 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:28,040 associated Provisions will apply to both the severed and retain Lots however the 18 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:33,640 retain lot still does not meet the minimum required lot era for a po unit 19 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:38,640 dwelling within the R2 Zone therefore zoning relief is included as a condition 20 00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:43,600 of consent through a future minor variance application at this time no 21 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:48,520 comments have been received from the public regarding this application but 22 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:54,799 thank you okay is there anyone here from pathway for Van Houston 23 00:01:50,960 --> 00:02:00,600 to yeah hello my name is Isaac V on of passway any additional question 24 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,680 comments no I just think this is just a great example of the way in which 25 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Pathways can add to their inventory of affordable residential units that they 26 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,920 provide for their clientele which I think is a really good thing it's a 27 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:18,080 great organization uh yeah I think it's pretty 28 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:22,040 straightforward Stu what we're suggesting here is the building going to 29 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:26,800 be used for Pathways yes the new building yeah 30 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:31,280 okay how many units are planned for that it's going to be a single family 31 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:38,120 dwelling with u second resident any any questions for this 32 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,120 gentlemen the existing building is 33 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,920 Frable yeah uh where's the driveway in this new building uh we're going to do 34 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:59,480 an extensive site plan but we'll probably have it coming it will 35 00:02:55,239 --> 00:02:59,480 definitely the new building will be off 36 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,480 there's already look like an existing there's like an 37 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:11,640 existing is there an existing one there yeah something something there so 38 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:15,760 that'll leave no parking for the building on the corner the existing 39 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:22,000 building no exist the existing building has on the 40 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:25,720 side and because of the type of residence there there won't be a whole 41 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:33,400 lot of cic Staff other than staff vehicles I mean 42 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,400 we recognize it sell anybody in 43 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:43,480 we'll any question for this gent if anyone else wishes to comment on 44 00:03:40,519 --> 00:03:43,480 34 College 45 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:54,519 Street go ahead could the actual uh driveway that's there now could it be 46 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:58,159 used as a place as opposed to North Park well yeah because they own both prop 47 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:03,360 they will own both properties we were thinking maybe we could wrap around 48 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:08,280 um from the backside just to have access on for both of the housing and things 49 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,720 like that have offs to get on to college or get on to North Park I mean that 50 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:17,880 wouldn't be something that be transferred my only question is if North 51 00:04:14,519 --> 00:04:25,720 or North Park at that place with turn lane going north you've got traffic here 52 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:30,639 traffic there is another I know there's a driveway is there a driveway there now 53 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:36,840 yeah there is we would be right beside the driveway 54 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:39,240 to it's near the tree line then yeah okay 55 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:48,320 that's any other questions if not motion sorry sir have 56 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:53,680 something to say thank you sorry can I say something yeah sorry I'm my name is 57 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:58,639 Chris flurry um I own nine North Park which is it's actually the blue building 58 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,639 there on the bottom one on left so where the van is 59 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:10,280 uh so it has been I mean my question uh my 60 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:12,800 reason for coming today was to find out exactly what the building was going to 61 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:19,720 be used for and if it was going to be used for another uh Pathways independent 62 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:26,080 home um I can tell you it's it's very difficult living next to Pathways um 63 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:33,319 there are um my understanding is people who have um uh traumatic brain injuries 64 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:38,280 and and that sort of thing um my wife was chased down the street at one point 65 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:42,240 by one of the residents um resulted in the police being called um she was with 66 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:46,360 her children we have three young children um there's a gentleman who this 67 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:53,919 hasn't happened since last summer it's so cold but he um I don't know how to 68 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:58,759 describe it he sort of shadow boxes with himself outside but it's it's it's 69 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,720 frightening it's honestly frightening and uh we had to at one point we had to 70 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:07,479 take our our kids inside because of that um 71 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:12,680 my concern is obviously that right now there's a poer zone 72 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:18,039 between um Pathways and our property but if this goes through it's 73 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,520 you know it's a very small property I don't know how you 74 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:27,639 fit um a whole other residents in there I me 75 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:33,080 you probably could but that would mean that it would be within feet of our 76 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:38,160 property I don't know if you get a sense of it sort of looking at that but the 77 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:44,759 property line is right where those trees are so it would be great next our 78 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,759 property 79 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:59,680 in my question is will there be a bent down on his side of the property when 80 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,680 that building is fil 81 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,199 uh through the chair um the chair there's no requirement for offense 82 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:11,639 between a single detached dwelling and another single detached dwelling um we 83 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:16,639 also don't regulate who lives in a dwelling it's essentially what this 84 00:07:13,639 --> 00:07:20,960 application is for um so your question be that answered by the applicants but 85 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:27,120 that would be more at their their desire to have that 86 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:32,639 V trees are going to have to come down anyways maybe can yeah I mean I I think 87 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:38,639 you know Pathways always tries to be a very good neighbor we built for them on 88 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:45,039 North part for it's 101 North part we did go that way of putting up fence um 89 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:49,319 just to one her good neighbors so I don't think it's I mean I'd have to 90 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:54,879 discuss that Pathways of course but I don't see that Su the realm so if there 91 00:07:52,520 --> 00:08:01,280 was a fence for down where the tree line is there that would probably mitigate 92 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:07,680 some of the issues that you may have some of them yes yeah I know it 93 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:11,199 depends on how far it goes like di it comes all the way to the street well 94 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:13,800 full length of the property I would say if you're going to build it should 95 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,960 probably be the full length of the property should not um to the chair 96 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:22,440 there there is some limitations to where fenses can be placed uh there's 97 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,759 limitations to once they go into the front yard so pass the building toward 98 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:31,800 between the building and the street uh they're only maximum one meter in that 99 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:37,440 range uh along essentially once it's in that sidey yard and level with the house 100 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:41,880 going back it can be up to eight feet there so can only come the th can only 101 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,839 come to the front of the house it can't go right to the line in the front once 102 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:54,279 it extends past the house towards the street line it can only be maximum 103 00:08:48,480 --> 00:09:00,399 one oh height not distance correct okay can one 104 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:05,440 thing the pathway have always been very good deal with them my concern is just 105 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:11,519 that there's some um there's an inherent nature to to 106 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:18,600 what you're doing and it is going to be disruptive in to to some of the the 107 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:22,399 neighbors despite sorry L yeah I me you experienced 108 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:26,760 that something I don't think you can put that 109 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:32,360 as the condition of our sence it's not really that got precedent you think that 110 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:37,920 you know we want to be good neighbors so I think that'll 111 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:37,920 go that's 112 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:54,000 for I'm with pathway Independence yeah name I'm the operations manager and like 113 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:59,880 I don't see offense being an issue for us during the bill time if that will 114 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:03,600 help the back of the property all way to the front but with a limitation yeah on 115 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:08,880 the lower one I I we haven't done a site plan yet 116 00:10:11,959 --> 00:10:23,440 but that existing drive better yeah well okay any other 117 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:30,200 questions anybody else have any comments questions concerns if not then so to you 118 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,560 Mr chair can we as a committee add a variance for this fence to make sure 119 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:40,880 that it can go the length of the property to make sure the this homeowner 120 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:46,839 is uh satisfied well the S can go the length properly just that once it go by 121 00:10:43,079 --> 00:10:51,399 the house it can only be one meter it's given permission to make a higher high 122 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,399 all the way to 123 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:59,760 the sorry for the chair one the the rationale behind limiting fence height 124 00:10:56,959 --> 00:11:04,959 in the front yard is to ensure the pH people back 125 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:08,079 in pedestrian safety andf the 126 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:22,079 reason I'm empathetic sir I I get it and and maybe God knows if that my family 127 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:28,279 been it would be scary to me too but I I I don't want to be put us in a position 128 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:33,320 where we're saying we if if Pathways as a neighbor decides to do so I don't want 129 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:37,720 to put anything that requiring such a b it it it's not 130 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:42,360 it's it's like saying I I don't like this neighbor so the city's making me 131 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:46,160 put up fence I don't want to get back into that corner I'd like to see it 132 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:52,800 happen as a good neighborly decisions rather than something that we're putting 133 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,800 in the condition in any way I find 134 00:11:52,839 --> 00:12:06,800 that than any further questions comment if not do we have a motion 135 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:13,839 Mo move second by Joe Joe all in favor okay thank you our next application is 136 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:22,639 for minor variant 291 M dve the owner isale and the AG fre engineering and 137 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:30,240 staff um thanks Mr chair um 291 M Drive is located on the north side of M Drive 138 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:36,320 East of Highway 62 and west of red drive this man virus application requests Rel 139 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:44,680 to reduce the minimum required interior sidey WDS from 7.5 M to 1.2 M to 140 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:51,240 recognize the existing interior side yard WS of the existing buildings this 141 00:12:47,959 --> 00:12:58,079 relief would facilitate the expansion of the space for warehousing and the office 142 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:04,880 in the north building it is noted that on December the 19th 2024 the committee 143 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:12,240 of adjustment approved three consent applications to allow 285 Midland Drive 144 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:18,519 to sever two pieces of land to 291 Midland Drive although these 145 00:13:14,839 --> 00:13:25,120 applications will facilitate 291 Midland Drive to expand towards the north they 146 00:13:21,959 --> 00:13:30,000 will not change the interior side yard WDS of the existing buildings and the 147 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:36,199 proposed addition the official plan designation of the 148 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:42,240 property is employment land use prior to this meeting staff have received one 149 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:49,320 phone inquiry regarding this application The Inquirer requested more details of 150 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:55,600 the proposal specifically whether any building would be expanding closer to 151 00:13:51,959 --> 00:14:01,720 the east lock line staff clarified the scope of the proposed work and explained 152 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:07,839 that expanded building would not be located any closer to the east L line 153 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:15,639 back to you Mr chair okay thank you is there anyone here Dale D from three Hil 154 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:19,600 engineering have you have any additional questions comments no I 155 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:32,040 think the office Ware work okay yeah we dealt with this back in December I guess 156 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:36,600 anybody have any questions for this G or anybody in the audience have any 157 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:42,120 questions comments concerns everybody's happy then I'll 158 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:48,759 move move by Jack seconded by Robert all in favor thank you thank 159 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:55,120 you okay our next application is an application for consent 160 00:14:50,839 --> 00:15:02,040 837 valario and the owner owner is Lloyd PRS and the 161 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:08,560 opp thank you thank you chair the subject land located at 837 casy road is 162 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,720 currently zon as agriculture Z the property is developed with a one unit 163 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:17,000 detou dwelling and several accessory buildings including two barns which are 164 00:15:15,079 --> 00:15:21,440 not used for housing lifestock this content application 165 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:26,800 proposes to sever the existing Surplus dwelling along with two accessory 166 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:34,079 buildings onto a separate lot with a lot area of 4,800 squ me 167 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:38,639 and lot Frontage of 30.8 M on casc road this proposed consent would result in a 168 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:43,759 minimum lot Frontage less than required by the zoning bylaw for both the sever 169 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:49,160 and retain Lots in addition the lot area of the retain lot would be less than the 170 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:53,319 required therefore as a condition of consent the corresponding minav variance 171 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:58,440 application has been submitted to address the reduced lot Frontage for the 172 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:03,600 severed lot as well as the reduced lot area lot Frontage for the retain lot 173 00:16:01,399 --> 00:16:08,639 additionally a zoning by law amendment is required as a condition of consent to 174 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:13,199 rezone the separate parcel to a rural residential Zone while the retain lot 175 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:18,199 will be reson to a site specific agriculture Zone to prohibit any future 176 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:23,480 residential development on the retain lot and prevent the use of the existing 177 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:27,720 barns for the housing of livestock at this time no comments have been received 178 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:34,959 from the public regarding this application okay is Lloyd here or 179 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Watson and not Lloyd Jennifer from Watson answer theirs 180 00:16:37,959 --> 00:16:42,839 uh we're the agent for this file just here to answer any questions it seems 181 00:16:41,319 --> 00:16:47,279 fairly straightforward we've got a justification report from a professional 182 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:52,199 planner included um for the deficient 30 meters of Frontage from the 45 required 183 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:55,920 for R of Thea so they're basically just separating the house from the 184 00:16:53,560 --> 00:17:00,800 agricultural so they can dispose of or do yeah so normally it would be 45 MERS 185 00:16:58,199 --> 00:17:05,600 Frontage the we have to do um and in this case the farmer felt very strongly 186 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:09,280 about the crop value of that land and wanted to I'm not sure if it shows up 187 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,280 very clear in those pictures but it's it's very much farmed it's even farmed 188 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:16,720 over and they're still going to lose some crops um with this configuration 189 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:22,679 but at least it's better than than losing a lot more of it 190 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:27,400 yeah Surplus F so we've reviewed all the conditions with the landowner and they 191 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:32,840 agree with them any questions for this lady anybody else in the audience wishes 192 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:39,919 to comment on casy Ro this is Sarah she's with me she's a new staff member 193 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:45,640 so she's of here just take not she's learning okay if there's go further 194 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:51,960 question comments motion Michael seconded by sure Scott 195 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:57,880 all in favor par pertaining to the same 196 00:17:54,440 --> 00:18:01,240 property so um fa you want to thank you chair this this manav variance 197 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:06,240 application is to facilitate the corresponding content application 198 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:11,120 previously discussed for the subject property as an anticipated condition of 199 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:15,720 consent this manance application requests to reduce the minimum required 200 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:22,120 lot Frontage for the separate lot from 45 M to 30.8 M as well as to reduce the 201 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:30,960 minimum required lot era from 40 hectares to 17.6 hect and lot Frontage 202 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:35,240 from 100 m to 71 3 met for the retain mod uh at this time no comments have 203 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,919 been received from the public regarding this 204 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:44,039 application okay thank you no no further comment okay and I guess there's no one 205 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:51,320 there okay motion yeah second by Robert all in 206 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:58,960 favor thank you that that part uh next is to con the minutes of January the 207 00:18:54,760 --> 00:19:04,960 16th motion by Robert seconded by thought all in favor done any other 208 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:09,000 business correspondents next meeting March 209 00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:17,080 20th at 3:30 unless we have another pi and if not an 210 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:26,039 adjournment you that concludes our meeting thank you 211 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,039 very much nothing