1 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:15,839 Perfect. Well, welcome. And we'd like to call to 2 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:19,439 order with the roll call, please, if you don't mind, Tony. 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,680 » Yep. Absolutely. So, we'll start with Chair Charlie Harrington, 4 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:25,279 » present. >> Vice Chair Nick Markman, 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,439 » present. >> Committee member Wayne Stacy, 6 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:37,280 » present. Committee member John Sherm present and um committee member Ma 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Burksund has uh excused herself and we also have council leaison Jane Cooper 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:47,760 » present. >> Thank you Tony. Okay. Um we're going to 9 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:54,079 do a slight reshuffle of the agenda. We'd like to move uh what is item number 10 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:57,520 five to be the next immediate item. So, it'll happen next and that is the 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:03,600 updates by the lane subcommittee on the report to city council on the Beach Road 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:09,680 Strip. Um, great. Do I need to ask for anything 13 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:14,640 permission for that? No, that's fine. >> No. Um, I think it in my uh Yeah, you 14 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,640 you're bringing it forward is is the way to do it. 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:23,040 » Okay, great. Um well I don't have much of an update on this largely because uh 16 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:28,000 the timing of our meetings as everyone knows we meet rather infrequently um 17 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:32,960 which I want to discuss later. Um but there was a previous city council 18 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:38,240 meeting um where it came up where the lane subcommittee of this very committee 19 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:42,640 would be providing a survey and report to city staff and city council 20 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:48,320 specifically on the revocable licenses associated with the strip. Um parks, 21 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:52,079 open spaces and lanes um responsible for stewardship of parks, open spaces of 22 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:55,600 lanes of which the strip being designated as a park is one of those 23 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,759 things. Um when we met with city council, we believed uh we stated that 24 00:01:57,759 --> 00:02:03,280 we would be coordinating with the planning department in terms of 25 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,680 receiving materials. So the update we have um on this is that we stated we 26 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:10,879 would not be active on this during the summer other than setting up the 27 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,400 document exchange which has taken place. So we wanted to say thank you to Rebecca 28 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:19,680 and Sammy as well as Jane for your help in gathering the records. Um we have 29 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:24,239 received a number of recorded revocable licenses, staff reports, drawings, 30 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:28,640 photos, meeting minutes. Uh these are all provided securely to the 31 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:31,840 subcommittee. Um MA shares that she's started to review those and the plan is 32 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,080 that we are going to create similar to the lane survey last year a little 33 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:40,160 tracker document where we can look into all of those and provide updates and um 34 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,400 you know again the framing for this was to provide an asset to city staff and 35 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:48,879 city council when looking at these things uh because they do come up time 36 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:53,200 to time. Um when the survey draft is completed, I would I believe we'll 37 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:57,200 hopefully target um you know early fall, we will be 38 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,519 sharing it with this committee and sharing it with uh you Tony and city 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,200 staff. So that's mainly the update I have on that topic. Jane, 40 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:10,640 » can I ask a question just for clarification for myself and everybody 41 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:16,640 here? Uh when you say that this committee is looking at all revocable 42 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:21,440 licenses, are you talking about ones that are the lanes and in public space 43 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:30,000 or are you saying this committee is looking at all private revocable 44 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:36,159 licenses? So, um, if you own a home and your, uh, pier goes down 45 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,920 to the water and there's a revocable license, 46 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:45,120 but it's not a lane. >> Are are we looking at private revocable 47 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:50,159 licenses? I I don't know that I have the exact distinction you have in mind, but 48 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:55,200 the the lanes you can think about as one component of what this uh survey is 49 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:59,760 looking at and then the recreation zone designated as the strip of which some of 50 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,959 those peers and and uh docks may be cutting across that's also in 51 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:07,680 consideration. So, okay, >> I think the goal is to sort of work down 52 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:12,319 that entire stretch that is designated as um park. 53 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,920 uh and I don't have the exact list of documents we've received, right, 54 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,799 » from uh the planning department. I expect there may be some additional 55 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,320 documents that we need to request as we start to look into that. 56 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:27,120 » Do you have any any guidance in that regard? No, I mean I think you know I 57 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:32,240 think we have to be careful if we're looking at private ownership versus okay 58 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:38,720 » when it's on a lane which we've been running into where the lanes uh an 59 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:45,600 individual home has a revocable license on the lane itself and it hasn't been 60 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:50,960 kept up and I think that's how so that access for the public 61 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:54,800 » but certainly these other ones are not public access They're privately owned 62 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:58,320 except for going under, >> right? 63 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:04,400 » Anything go walking under, but other than that, I I would not know where our 64 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:09,199 influence would come. >> Yeah, I the main guidance was in in 65 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:16,080 terms of what is impacting public access, whether it's on a lane or on the 66 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:20,800 navigable area along the strip. But I >> yeah just to to jump in to provide a bit 67 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:27,120 of context um from the council's perspective um I believe that this is uh 68 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:32,560 part of their discussion on RL's uh in in general and um their sort of 69 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:39,440 protocols on how they um how they manage their RL um approval decisions. Um so 70 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:45,919 this is uh input into into that um deliberation for them. Um the um 71 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:50,639 conversation I had with with the city manager um was that really the the value 72 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:56,479 that the uh that this committee can provide is um kind of digging into 73 00:05:53,440 --> 00:06:01,840 details and um discussing with with staff how to um present those to council 74 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:07,919 and how they can be of value to to council um to the city council with 75 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:11,600 their uh with their work. Um yeah and and and apart from that I think um I 76 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:16,880 don't think there are any specific action items um that will you know that 77 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,319 are that are lined up for this. Um I think any of the you know if if there 78 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:26,400 are any issues that are that are found and and you know highlighted um you know 79 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:31,919 the city's position is not to um to to to police um actions that you know or 80 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:38,880 activities that have happened you know over over many many years. Um so um 81 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:43,600 yeah, I think um it's it's a work in in progress and I think it's something that 82 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,400 um will be continually coordinated with staff and uh and certain council 83 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:50,960 members. >> Thanks for that context. And you know 84 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,880 again this falls within the um responsibilities of this committee to 85 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:57,919 provide these surveys and and I might even call them acts of acts of service 86 00:06:56,479 --> 00:07:01,280 to help city council with that periodically as requested. So thank you 87 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:06,680 for that context. Does the committee have any comments or 88 00:07:03,039 --> 00:07:06,680 questions on this item? 89 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:14,639 » The my understanding is that section of the island is half recreational, half 90 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:20,000 open space. Are we only covering the recreational portion? 91 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:25,319 » Uh the remitt as I understand is to cover both recreation and open space. 92 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,319 » Thank you. 93 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,400 Is there any public comment on Zoom relating to this item? 94 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,880 » Fair enough. >> Okay. Is there any public comment in the 95 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:46,319 in the room on this item? >> Yes. Please step forward and if you 96 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,960 don't mind stating your name and your address and uh also pressing the button 97 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:54,639 so your mic turns green. That was a lot of instructions. I'm 98 00:07:52,319 --> 00:08:01,120 sorry. I can repeat them. and I've got it green. Um Albert 99 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Richards, I'm at 266 Beach Road. Uh Jane, you mentioned uh kind of in the 100 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:13,280 preamble as we were in our discussions that uh building isn't allowed on the 101 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:22,160 strip. Um that's a subject of debate. Uh, and I think I've seen in past uh um 102 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:29,599 planning approvals a reference to an 1898 deed that says no structures are 103 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:35,519 permitted on the strip. That begs the legal question of what is a structure 104 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:40,719 and how was that defined in 1898 in that document which is unclear. The document 105 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:47,760 itself is between the Belvadier land company and Belvadier. The land company 106 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:53,200 still exists. We have an opportunity to clarify that such that it becomes 107 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:58,480 something that does not become the subject of multiple lawsuits in the 108 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:03,839 future. And I would take it I would strongly advise the city to engage uh 109 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:11,920 with the land company to make that as flexible as possible such that we don't 110 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:18,080 use that document in a backhanded manner to create someone's own definition of 111 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:23,200 structure in order to back into a preferred solution and instead have it 112 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:30,640 be as flexible as possible going forward such that the city has the remit to uh 113 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:37,040 use the strip as it sees fit. Uh one of the dangers there is right now is if 114 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:43,200 there's a failure uh and there is let's say a walkway that 115 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:47,279 goes across is that a structure? Um and if somebody wants to put a walkway or a 116 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:52,399 platform, is that a structure? And if they already exist and the city decides 117 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:56,160 that that is a structure, the city is basically taking the legal view that the 118 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:01,440 strip has already reverted to Belvadier land because Belveter land the deed says 119 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:08,399 if there's a structure on the strip, it reverts to Belvader land ownership. 120 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:12,640 Uh so if you're in a situation that if there's a failure below somebody's house 121 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:17,760 and uh then you have two different parties that can potentially uh uh be 122 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:22,720 actioned. One is the city because it owns or two is the Belvader Land Company 123 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,079 because someone can claim that the land has actually already reverted to 124 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:33,279 Belvader Land Company because of that deed. And that is just an incredible 125 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:38,640 legal clagmire that I would strongly encourage the city to have a rational 126 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:44,079 conversation with Belvadier Land, get a nice flexible arrangement uh that we can 127 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,399 move forward as a city for the benefit of the overall community. 128 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:56,240 Certainly from a uh existing standpoint and from a uh 129 00:10:53,360 --> 00:11:01,680 what's essentially the the pattern and practice of the city has 130 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:05,519 been to deem a walkway or a platform or something like that not a structure 131 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:10,240 because you've approved it a lot in the past, most recently at our neighbors. 132 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:14,720 And I would be more than happy to have people come down and take a look at 133 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,160 what's going on down there. Uh we have a stairway that goes all the way down uh 134 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:24,240 even though the lane next to us does not. Um which is a subject of a 135 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:30,240 different discussion. Uh but uh I I I think if you know it it one 136 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:34,240 of one of the things that concerns me is in the past it appears as though people 137 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:40,240 have been making decisions about that area who have never visited it. And uh 138 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:46,000 again open invitation to come take a look. uh and uh uh I would I would 139 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:52,519 encourage us to have a rational conversation about what works best for 140 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,519 the entire community as we go forward. 141 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,839 » Thank you. >> Yes, chair. 142 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:01,440 » Do you remember the instructions? >> Well, fortunately, it's still green. 143 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:05,519 » Uh yeah, and sorry, Tony, >> if I if I could just jump in to say um 144 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,720 there is uh and I should have said this in the beginning, but um we don't 145 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:14,720 normally have we're not normally this popular. Um if um there is usually a 146 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,040 time limit for for comment which is 3 minutes. Y 147 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:20,959 » okay >> I will abide by the additional 148 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:26,560 instruction. >> Um two points regarding 149 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,920 » sorry your name and your address 222 beach road. 150 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:36,000 » Thank you. >> So uh two points regarding um building 151 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:40,880 on the strip. One is um the house at 228 Beach Road, which the Murray's currently 152 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:44,959 own, was developed by the Tevises, who were the original owner, some of the 153 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:52,000 original owners of the Belvadier Land Company. And you can find in the um 154 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:56,560 historical records the massive staircase that they built on the hill when the 155 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:02,399 hill was bare that goes over the strip to the water. They are the people that 156 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:08,480 deeded the strip to the city. So why would they do something that thought was 157 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:14,240 bad? There's a little um discontinuity there. The second thing I would say 158 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:20,000 regarding structure is that left to its own devices, the strip will naturally 159 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:26,000 fall into the water. It is to the benefit of the city to 160 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:30,639 allow people to put walkways and other structures and I would say even plants 161 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:34,320 on the strip to maintain the integrity of the hill. 162 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,560 » That's it. >> Thank you. 163 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,600 I'm sorry. Is Am I up? 164 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:29,839 » Not sure if you heard Chris there, but we can hear you now, Mark. 165 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:37,440 » Oh, I'm sorry. Um, well, um, I I appreciate the prior comments. Mark 166 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:41,600 Conroe, 310 Beach Road. Um, I I'm my question, I guess, very fundamentally, 167 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:47,920 is what problem are we trying to solve? uh it seems like it's uh pedestrian 168 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:52,399 beach access and sort of ir irrespective of where the strip begins and ends. If 169 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:58,240 that's the goal, then I think we should be trying to achieve that goal. Uh and I 170 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:04,079 would echo what Bird says is to come out there to uh have uh anybody who wants 171 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:08,160 two parks and wreck and others to come out there and see what kind of beach 172 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:12,399 access there is both under various conditions. under high tide there is 173 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:17,680 really no beach access because the water comes up to the hillside and and uh as 174 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,959 members of the parks and reccks know four months ago I met with them and 175 00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:25,760 trying to facilitate a solution. I think we came up with a solution as it relates 176 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:32,160 to 310 and 312 beach road in terms of having access at 177 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:37,839 relative high tide. Um but there is in some parts of the strip you can't get by 178 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:42,880 certainly at high tide. Um, so again, I would just h have us try to focus on uh 179 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:48,240 what problem we're trying to solve. If it's from pedestrian access along the 180 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:55,000 beach, then I think we we can all uh try to work together and achieve that. 181 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,000 That's all. 182 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Thank you, Mark. 183 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,199 U I I may respond directly to Mark. Mark. Um I was among the group of people 184 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,880 that went with Mark and others and uh there were city staff and Mika and 185 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:14,639 others went down and visited the spot where Mark pointed out and um I'll also 186 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,040 state that I tried I do personally try to go down to the strip as much as 187 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:22,160 possible. Even this past weekend I jumped in at the beach and was swimming 188 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:27,839 with my kids which was a delight. Um uh one of the things I was going to bring 189 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:32,240 up in my um next comments was relating to another responsibility of this 190 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:38,480 committee which is to be involved in planning um commission uh responses to 191 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:42,800 things that are adjacent to parks, open spaces and lanes. Um I would first like 192 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:47,199 to say thank you to the planning department for being um very proactive 193 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,560 in providing us with these materials and I think the relationship there is uh 194 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,720 really solid in terms of alerting to us when there is a development along a lane 195 00:16:52,320 --> 00:17:00,320 or related to a park. So I think that that's going well and it's often um it's 196 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:04,160 often on the responsibility of the chair to review these because this committee 197 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,919 does not meet so frequently. So, um they're representing um you know the 198 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,319 stated objectives of park open space which is to effectively steward the 199 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,720 recreational zones, parks, open spaces and lanes of which the lanes often come 200 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:21,240 up into these considerations as does the strip. And some of the things that we do 201 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,240 look 202 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,400 for stewarding these these areas. So I think there's been lots of useful uh 203 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,919 discussion today that'll be really helpful for that. So thank you. 204 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:29,360 » Can I get clarification? Are you seeking comment on project? 205 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,600 » Uh not at this meeting. I'm more saying that I'll be working on uh collaborating 206 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,640 on a parks open spaces lanes comment on that project. 207 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:42,200 I would love to have public input if you if you don't mind. 208 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:49,600 » Yes. Thank you. >> Just a quick comment from a neighbor. 209 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:54,320 Anything that helps support the hillside, any peers that keep it from 210 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,600 sliding down, that is a huge public benefit. You mentioned public benefits. 211 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,120 If that's what you're looking for, it's a great project. 212 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:05,120 » I appreciate it. Thank you. And I'll just also round up by saying 213 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:10,799 that um if anybody has any questions, they're welcome to contact staff and um 214 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:17,120 uh you know we can provide updates or let people know where uh where the city 215 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,600 is on it. >> Great. And I you know again thank you to 216 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:26,320 this committee for ongoing work in like the working on um protecting and and 217 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:33,039 beautifying these areas. So thank you. I think that covers this item which was 218 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:37,200 item number five. With that um we can move to item number two which is 219 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:45,400 comments from the chair of which I have none. Um so let's move on to a report 220 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,400 from public works director Tony Boyd. 221 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Thank you Chair Charlie. 222 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:58,320 As we all know, we had late rains this year and we received a flush of growth 223 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:03,200 in vegetation and weeds and the city's contractor is continuing trimming of 224 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:07,200 vegetation along roadsides and lanes. Uh this is primarily for fire fuel 225 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:11,120 reduction and additional fire fuel work is planned for the city's open space 226 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:16,320 properties on West Shore, which will consist primarily of removal of dead 227 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:21,200 vegetation and debris. Um and Pagota Lane, where overgrowth of ivy and weeds 228 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,799 has created a thicket. This work will improve the views from Pagod Lane as 229 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:27,919 well as the health of the trees, but it will likely require consistent 230 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:32,159 additional maintenance over the next couple of years to really improve the 231 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:36,240 site until routine fire fuel reduction maintenance is established. 232 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:42,080 Artists View was trimmed a couple of weeks ago uh in what is now annual fire 233 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:46,720 fuel reduction work on that property. Speaking of artists view, I can provide 234 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:52,480 the update that structural engineering design work is complete and the RFP 235 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:58,880 packet has been put together uh to post the artist view deck project um for 236 00:21:55,039 --> 00:22:05,840 bidding. Um look out for the posting on uh Friday in the Marin INJ and um it'll 237 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:09,280 be on in our usual online channels. The deadline for bids is July the 30th, 238 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:14,159 after which a contractor will be selected and provided with a notice to 239 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:20,080 proceed. Staff anticipates this project to be completed in the fall. 240 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:24,640 The city's crew has been very busy every Tuesday since the end of June with the 241 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:29,039 curbside pickup program. This program encourages residents to clear fire fuel 242 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,120 vegetation from their property by offering a free pickup on Tuesdays 243 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:38,480 through June. And this year was a very big year as many residents clearly took 244 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:43,520 advantage of the program. As summer starts to warm up, irrigation 245 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:48,080 becomes critical in the parks, especially where turf is concerned. 246 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:53,039 Alberto and his crew have been working on issues with the system at Tom Price 247 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:57,039 Park, which has led to dry areas in the grass. The trouble appears to stem from 248 00:22:55,360 --> 00:23:01,440 the manganese deposits that have built up over the years on the inside of the 249 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:05,440 pipes, valves, and sprinkler heads. The new manganese filter that was installed 250 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:10,960 last year has improved water quality. However, the residual deposits remain. A 251 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:14,960 mini project to replace 19 valves is planned for the next few weeks which 252 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:19,200 will hopefully address this issue as well as improve the functioning of the 253 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:24,400 system as a whole. And uh those are my comments and if 254 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:27,559 anyone has any questions they're welcome to ask. 255 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:37,679 May we have an update on the removal of the playground mounds, 256 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,559 which I I believe is done. >> Yes. Um well, it's partly done. Um some 257 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,280 of the mounds have been removed. Um and but I can hand it over to Chris for that 258 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,960 update. >> Yes. Just a quick update on the mound 259 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,840 removal. So the tan mounds have been removed. As you probably have seen, 260 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:01,679 there's a remaining wave themed mound near the tan mounds that will be 261 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:06,240 removed. um in the next week or so. Um that's just kind of been rescheduled 262 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:10,799 just due to make sure the coloring is consistent with what is existing and 263 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:17,840 that it's more aesthetically pleasing. Doesn't look like a repair. That's more 264 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:21,919 of a a a themed um wave. So that's the update. So in the next um let's see the 265 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,799 eth probably by within the next two weeks it'll be removed and replaced. 266 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,799 Thank you Chris. 267 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:30,919 question. 268 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:41,480 » Are there any comments on staff report from Zoom? Chris, 269 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:51,520 » there are no comments. >> Are there any comments from the room on 270 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:56,000 staff report? Okay, we can move on. Okay, we're into 271 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:01,120 schedule items. Number four is the update and discussion on lanes. 272 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,360 Tony, I believe you gave some degree of update of this in your report, but do 273 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:11,039 you have anything to add for item A? >> Yeah. Uh, yes, I can add a couple of 274 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:15,679 details um related to maintenance and repairs. Um, there has been tree work 275 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,679 that's taken place and some handrail repairs. Tree work was completed at Park 276 00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:24,400 Lane to improve the views from the new seating area. Um and I can report that I 277 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,240 visited the site with council leaison Jane Cooper uh to discuss further 278 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:35,039 improvements um and uh enhance that view uh further. 279 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,760 Um more to come on that tree work is also was also done at the bottom of 280 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:44,559 Hawthorne Lane or Centennial Park uh to thin the overgrown vegetation, remove a 281 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:48,960 plum tree and cut back two plum trees where their branches uh were overhanging 282 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:52,240 the pathway. Um 283 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:57,440 and yeah, next in line will be Pagota Lane, 284 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:01,919 uh where extensive work is needed for, uh as I mentioned, both fire fuel 285 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:06,320 reduction and general maintenance. Um and then trimming around street lights 286 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:11,120 at lane entrances. And I will report back on these at the next meeting. And I 287 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,640 will hand over to Chris for an update on the handrail repairs as well as 288 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:19,360 improvements to the park lane seating area. 289 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:23,200 Yeah, quick update on the hand railway pairs. So, we've completed all those on 290 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:28,400 MLAN Lane except for the ones on I think we discussed this last meeting on top of 291 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,840 near beiew. So, we're still kind of scoping out how to approach that one 292 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:37,120 because the fire hydrant we can't put the railing on the new metal railing on 293 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:41,360 that side. There's an existing wood with private improvements, lighting, water 294 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:45,279 fixtures. So, that that's still being scoped out. 295 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:51,600 best way to install that. Whether it's to replace it in wood and kind or to put 296 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:58,760 a metal railing there and then engage with the neighbor how to relocate those 297 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,760 utilities. 298 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,000 » All right. >> And Chris, you have an update on the um 299 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:11,200 park lane seating area? >> Yes, I do. So, I heard back from the 300 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:15,840 contractor today, the bench brackets, they have to be fabricated. It's 301 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,679 customized because the how it bends down the lip a little bit. So, right now 302 00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:23,679 those are in the shop getting galvanized for protective coating. Um, so those 303 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,120 will be expected to be done next Thursday 304 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:32,799 and then once they get those back they can begin with the bench install. So, 305 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,640 I'm anticipating the following Monday, July 20th. Hopefully, they can get 306 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:42,640 started on that and then it shouldn't be too labor intensive to install that. 307 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:46,000 They said a week, so maybe a week or two to get that done. So hopefully by the 308 00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:50,640 end of July, beginning of August, they can have that installed. 309 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:55,679 » Thank you. Well, I had a comment on um the 310 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,840 maintenance and repairs on Pigota. Are you able to describe the the scope 311 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,679 of what the work is? Because I know when you're sitting on that bench, there's a 312 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,919 fair degree of overgrowth that's preventing what could be a rather nice 313 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:13,679 view. So, um are you able to describe the plan? Yeah. 314 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:18,000 » Um, yes. And without um being there or having a picture, it's a little tricky, 315 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:24,240 but basically there's uh there's a lot of ivy uh that's growing up among the 316 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:27,919 trees and um just, you know, blocking uh a lot of light to the trees. So that the 317 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:34,720 health of the trees is suffering. One of the trees may need to be removed um 318 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:42,559 because um it only has um foliage at the very tips of its branches uh with no 319 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:45,760 internal um uh branch structure. Um um and that's a process that we would 320 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:50,720 need to we will need to go through with uh the planning department uh to remove 321 00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:56,159 a tree. Um but the majority of the work is removing dead branches, thinning the 322 00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:03,840 trees, uh removing brushy vegetation and ivy uh from the trees. Um there's one um 323 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:08,000 uh area below pagod lane as you as you walk up from beach road um as you're 324 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,880 sort of walking up the hill on the right hand side there's some there's some 325 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,200 vegetation out there. There's actually a dead tree over there that's kind of 326 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:19,440 hanging over the road. Um and yeah, so that's that's going to be removed. Um, 327 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:26,880 and yeah, I mean, apart from that, it's it's thinning and um and removing some 328 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:31,840 of the the um uh scotch broom and some of the weedy weedy material on the site. 329 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,520 » Great. It could be useful to do it before and after from se sitting at the 330 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:37,919 bench. Um >> Yeah. Okay. 331 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,360 » Yeah, that's that's a great idea. Yeah. And and one one concern, you know, 332 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:48,320 speaking to Bartlett out there, uh, who who will be doing the work, um, is that, 333 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:54,960 you know, it's going to leave a lot of bare soil. Um, and, um, that it's not 334 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:59,279 going to look great. Um, at least initially, uh, there's going to need to 335 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:03,279 be some some sort of growing back by some of the vegetation, and that's where 336 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:08,480 a couple of years of of of work comes in. Um, so this is really a a sort of a 337 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:13,840 three or four year project to to make it a little bit more groomed. Um, and even 338 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:19,960 though it's a natural uh landscape, it does need work uh to to uh to be 339 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960 maintained. 340 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,440 » Maybe we'll go through items A and B. Does the committee have any comments or 341 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,679 questions on items A and B from this section? 342 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Did we decide not to proceed with any further landscaping on parkland? Uh 343 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:38,240 mulch or stuff on the side that was part of the original plan 344 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:45,760 mostly my concern is just stabilization but I curious 345 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:51,360 » we did not reach a decision. I don't I don't think I think um mulch I think um 346 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:56,880 aesthetically would be uh would be a good idea. Um 347 00:30:54,559 --> 00:31:03,600 and I think um I think there are quite a few things that we can do um to improve 348 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:07,360 improve that site. Um and I think 349 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:12,480 now that we've moved away from that that area as a project area and as a general 350 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:16,399 maintenance area, I think um you know general maintenance funding would be uh 351 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,640 probably the best way to do that. um just have smaller maintenance projects 352 00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:27,440 out there that um you know cumul cumulatively improve improve the site. 353 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Um and I know that that you um uh you know that uh we had a couple of emails 354 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:35,520 back and forth about about that site some of the details there. So I'm happy 355 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,720 to to continue that and and pick up where we left off. 356 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:43,360 » Yeah. Then maybe it go I mean if we're doing kind of more view stuff maybe it 357 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,799 kind of all gets wrapped into one just a just overall plan versus um kind of bare 358 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,039 dirt at this point. >> Yeah. Happy happy to give some thoughts 359 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,960 next time I next Thursday when I sit down on the nice new bench I'll ponder 360 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960 it. 361 00:31:56,399 --> 00:32:06,240 » Any other comments from the committee council member? Okay. Anyone on Zoom 362 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:10,240 want to comment on item 4 A or 4B? No comments from Zoom. 363 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:15,279 » Any comments from the room? Okay, let's go on to item 4C, which is the lane 364 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:20,640 subcommittee update, which largely has uh become the survey subcommittee. So, I 365 00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:24,799 gave a brief update on um the expansion of that. Um, we originally had talked 366 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,480 about earlier in our plan for this year in our letter to city council that we 367 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:34,000 were going to be expanding our lane survey which we provided to city staff 368 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,799 la last year to inform development of improvement of lanes as well as 369 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,760 maintenance. And Tony, you you've acknowledged uh the utility of that 370 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:46,080 already. We're going to be expanding that to cover open spaces and parks and 371 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:50,960 recreation space. Um, with the ask uh to focus on the strip area first. that's 372 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:55,360 pushed that um to the sort of first part of our priority in terms of getting the 373 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,840 survey done. Um but we're also still we've built the tracker out for the 374 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,919 additional parks and open spaces again using exhibit six in the Belvadier 375 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,760 general plan to inform what those are. So we're going to go through and 376 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:12,640 hopefully have um as useful of a survey with photos of the different um city 377 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:18,320 parks and things like that. So that'll include Centennial Park, um the Oak Mini 378 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:24,240 Park, and some of the other some of the other areas as well as um this the large 379 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:28,399 park here. So we plan to have that done by end of the year and that will be part 380 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,960 of the package with which we hopefully present our next report to city council. 381 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:37,519 We'd like to review that internally here first. So we'll make sure that's done 382 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:41,840 ahead of um ahead of probably our next meeting, if not the second one. um 383 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:46,320 regarding one of the projects which was to develop an improved lanes map. 384 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,720 Council member Peter Marks offered some assistance in that regard from a digital 385 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,320 perspective and he shared some cool ideas there. Um I'm now just 386 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,000 realistically thinking it might be nice to incorporate feedback from the rest of 387 00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:02,960 the survey into that prior to endeavoring on updating any maps. I also 388 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:07,760 think this could be useful as the city's beginning to think about the next major 389 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,919 general plan and things like that to try to be aligned with whatever document we 390 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:16,879 produce could be helpful in that regard. Um my other update before I go to a 391 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:23,200 question is that I met with Roger Felton who is um I would say the guru of the 392 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:28,079 lane signs. Uh it was amazing. Um he's got a lot of a flipboard of every lane 393 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:32,000 sign and who painted it and when. It was really fun and he and I have been 394 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,520 working with city staff on improving some of the dilapidated lane signs and 395 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:40,240 adding some where they where they are missing. So, um, we've got that out and 396 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,280 thank you to city staff for providing us with some of the boards to do that and 397 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:46,560 I'm hopeful before the end of the year we'll get some neat new signs and some 398 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,839 improved signs. And that was one of the things in the survey that we pointed out 399 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:54,639 that some of the beautiful art is fading away. And then the last thing update I 400 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:58,400 have is we had talked about some collaboration with some of the emergency 401 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,760 preparedness initiatives which I've not followed up on. I'm wondering Jane if 402 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:08,560 you have any updates on that. >> Uh no you know uh we didn't have a a be 403 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:13,440 ready belvier meeting in um June >> and so we're also behind it. 404 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:18,720 » Okay. Okay. Well, we're here. >> Okay. Okay. 405 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:22,400 » That is my update on item 4 C. Any comments or questions from the 406 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:27,040 committee? Okay. Anyone on Zoom? 407 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,200 Sorry, Chris. We should have you sit in that seat. 408 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:36,599 » No, no comments on Zoom. >> Okay. Any comments from the room? 409 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,599 » Yes. Step right up. 410 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:45,839 » Me again. Um, I have a dream and I actually don't know if it's a lane or 411 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:50,320 not. I I I think it might be strip. It might not be. Um, but I walk up and down 412 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:57,599 Beach Road quite a bit and as I come up to the end of those big uh um uh palm 413 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,359 trees next to the yacht club and then you keep up and you look over the edge 414 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:04,480 and you see all the erosion on the supports for Beach Road and I know you 415 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,200 guys get to work on that at some point in time. Uh but while you're thinking 416 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:16,079 about that, uh I would love for the someone on the lanes committee to 417 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:22,720 consider uh um making a walkway from the southernmost palm tree to that lovely 418 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:27,359 beach uh which you could do at a much better angle with a lot fewer steps than 419 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:33,440 the current metal graded uh walkway that no dogs can go down. Um and uh uh it it 420 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:38,400 if you could do that in coordination with uh improving the supports, it's a 421 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:44,000 it's a great little beach that gets very little use. And uh I just think it's an 422 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:50,320 amazing public a uh uh asset that we're not uh maximizing. And in terms of of uh 423 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,760 use and ability to access the water, which is what we're all about, I would 424 00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:00,640 love it if you guys would consider that. >> We have the same dream. Um, uh, that's 425 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,839 the same beach that I went with, uh, my kids this weekend. I would say it was 426 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,880 not, it was not so easy, uh, to get there. We went through that sort of deer 427 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:12,400 path. Um, but yeah, uh, in fact, I've actually seen some historic documents of 428 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,440 some sketches of that in our minds, and I do think that that is within the realm 429 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,520 of what we've talked about for the future, and um, would love to follow up 430 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:24,640 on on suggestions that you or anyone else might have in that regard. Um, 431 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:31,480 thank you. Okay. 432 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,480 All right, I'll close out this item. 433 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:39,520 We will now move on to item six, discussion of the 2027 parks, open 434 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,880 spaces, lanes report to city council, uh identifi identification and selection of 435 00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:46,880 priority projects, including lane restoration. So, why is this on here 436 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,680 now? It's the middle of the year. This report is due in January. Um I'm, you 437 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,720 know, I I tend to procrastinate much more than this. It's mainly because we 438 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,520 don't meet that frequently. So, we want to make sure that we're aligned and 439 00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:01,839 talking about this. We brought this up in a previous meeting um using the 440 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:07,920 feedback coming from the lane survey to drive what our priority was. And I'll 441 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:12,400 I'll remind folks um in prior years there was uh a whole host of strategic 442 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:15,920 priorities. And then it it uh when you're prioritizing everything, it 443 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,440 became hard for city council to focus on certain actions. And for the last two 444 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,800 years, we've been endeavoring to identify one priority project. Um, and 445 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:30,240 you know, I'm sort of giving it away here, but including lane restoration 446 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:33,680 projects when we last discussed um the there was an idea that we would look at 447 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,839 the lane survey results, look at the top prioritized opportunities for lane 448 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:41,040 improvements and come up with a suggestion there. I will also say that 449 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,280 something else that we said in our previous letter that is still on the 450 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:48,320 table is the uh improvements to Centennial Park. Jane, you had some 451 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:55,280 great suggestions on that in a previous meeting. Um in some of the previous um 452 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,720 references I was talking about about going down to the strip, we actually 453 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:03,040 went down with city staff on one such lane that was identified in the survey 454 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:10,240 as a high opportunity for water access and this is Cliff Lane on Beach Road. Um 455 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:14,079 there is a uh walkway to get down. Um, some of this is some of this uh requires 456 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,079 you to go through a sort of passable gate to get down to it, but then 457 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,760 eventually you come to a nice curved track down that looks like historically 458 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,800 this may have been one of the places the boats and feries went down, but you can 459 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:30,240 basically come all the way down to a pocket beach. It very much looks like an 460 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:34,960 opportunity for um restoration of one of these lanes that would give uh water 461 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,920 access. And um that's currently near the top of what I'm I'm thinking of 462 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:41,200 gathering together for this. But of course, Centennial Park is something 463 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:45,680 we've talked about for a while. Um, and I wanted to see, you know, between those 464 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:52,240 two or something else if the committee has other directions that they would 465 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:56,800 like the chair to take in drafting this report because hopefully the chair, 466 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,880 myself, um, at least for the time being, will be preparing that for our next 467 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,440 meeting. So, I'll I'll open it up for comments or suggestions. 468 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,680 » I think those are great and thank you for all the hard work, Charlie. One 469 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,880 thing I mentioned at the last meeting that I'd like to at least think about 470 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:18,560 for consideration for the 2027 plan is Belvadier Way. Again, the uh the the 471 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:23,280 road path. >> Yep. 472 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:29,200 » Um there's massive erosional concerns under undermining the bench up there. 473 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:35,280 The gates at both end are falling off. the the the covert is a constant mess um 474 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,560 when it comes to winter and getting clogged and running over the edge and 475 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:43,040 stuff like that. Um so maybe some of this is general, maybe some of this is 476 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,960 more in the purview of of of us, but I think we should consider that for 477 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,560 allocating some some time and energy and at least discussion. 478 00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:54,960 » Thank you for reminding me. I know we talked about that last time, but I'll 479 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:59,359 I'll include that. >> John, anything? Oh, I I agree with what 480 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,040 you're flagging there and, you know, just making sure that we're looking at 481 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,319 maintenance and where there's, you know, safe evacuation routes. 482 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:14,640 » Thanks, >> Wayne or Jane. That rhymes. Anything? 483 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:19,680 » Well, I appreciate all of it. Also, um, my dream is Centennial Park and cleaning 484 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:24,880 that up, but I love cleaning up everything. And I think Belvadier Way, I 485 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:31,839 walk up and down that a lot. And it it is um at times it seems a lot more awful 486 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:36,160 than it is and other times it some seemed like that erosion was held 487 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:41,839 together but lately it really washed away. So yeah, it's probably something 488 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:48,319 that deserves focus on that. And then of course the cliff lane. I did go down 489 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:54,160 that and um I needed to be a little bit younger but I did it and the steps were 490 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:59,680 a little too wide for me. >> But um but it seems like there wasn't 491 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,880 there was a little bit at the top that needed help and a little bit at the 492 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:07,920 bottom that needed help and otherwise it was in great shape. So it seemed worth 493 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,680 really fixing up those two areas and then that's done. Yeah, 494 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:14,960 » that was an that's like an easy one. >> That's how that's was has been my 495 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,280 opinion there, too. So, that's why it might be it might be nice to prioritize 496 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960 that >> earlier. 497 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,359 » Yeah, >> Wayne, I see you reaching for your mic. 498 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:29,119 Well, anytime anybody talks about easy velvet construction, 499 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:32,880 I went I was wondering if if the city's looked at any of that in terms of what 500 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:37,760 it would take to to bring things up to code and make that happen just just to 501 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:44,160 have a feel for are we in a in the realm of budget possibility or is this a dream 502 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:47,440 for our children? I don't know that um Antonio, you can correct me if there's 503 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:52,640 proactive actions you're taking outside of recommendations from this group as it 504 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,319 relates to restoration projects like that. I I would expect that 505 00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:01,400 investigation could happen after we direct you to look into this, but could 506 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,400 you clarify? 507 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:12,400 » Yeah. Um it's yeah, both both points here. Um I think it isn't always as easy 508 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:18,240 as it seems. um you know when you have lanes that in this case have have a gate 509 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:26,079 at the top which uh is used for for a residence um so to remove that and to 510 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:30,079 establish a a public uh pathway entrance up there um would be the complication 511 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:36,560 there physically not too difficult to do but um you know uh having agreement on 512 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,520 how that's done would be the would be the hard part. Um 513 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,680 yeah, and that's I I definitely agree that of the lanes uh on that side of 514 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:50,960 Beach Road, that's one of the few that's actually a feasible construction 515 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,680 project. Um and it looks like it has served that um 516 00:43:53,599 --> 00:44:02,560 you know that's provided that service before. Um, interesting that it has 517 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:07,440 those um those posts, the black posts that you see around Balvadier uh the 518 00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:12,240 very old railings, the black posts with the round ball knob on the top. Um that 519 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:20,800 there are some on that lane. Um so it was clearly uh you know a city um access 520 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:25,040 route at some point. Um, and it would be it would be I mean it would be wonderful 521 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:29,440 to to bring it back as a um you know bring it back into the uh facilities 522 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:35,680 that are that are available to residents. Um yeah, but uh like I say, I 523 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:40,960 mean it's um it's it's sometimes a lot more nuanced or delicate to to work 524 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,400 through the um through the issues of what's there um and and how it's 525 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:50,319 currently being used. >> Yeah, I don't know that there was easy. 526 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:53,599 It might just be relative. Um, but uh maybe I would love with those three 527 00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:56,800 things in mind. Of course, I'll open it up for for feedback, but maybe that's 528 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:02,000 something I can follow up with you on in terms of at least sketching out high 529 00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:05,520 level what um like a budget might look like at a high level for those three 530 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,359 things that we talked about. Um, and I realize there's a lack of specificity 531 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,760 particularly around Belvadier Way and additionally Centennial Park, but maybe 532 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:19,520 that's something you and I can collaborate on, Tony. 533 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:24,160 » Yeah, absolutely. Um yeah, I think um yeah, 534 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:28,400 as far as bringing it up to code, um I don't think very many of the lanes are 535 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:34,400 up to code. Um they're rustic, you know, pathways and trails. So, um I think a 536 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:38,319 budget could be, you know, very a very realistic, you know, we we should be 537 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,680 able to put one together fairly fairly easily. Um and yeah, be happy to do 538 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,160 that. >> Thank you. Yeah, we I think we had 539 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,319 discussed maybe like the sort of railroad tie style approach which seems 540 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:51,119 to be like replacing some of the stuff that may have already existed and 541 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:54,880 deteriorated at the top, but then as Jane talked about, most of the rest of 542 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,760 it with the exception of the the staircase down is seemingly in in very 543 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,599 good shape. >> Yeah. Okay. 544 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,920 » Right. >> What's the property address that's goes 545 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,160 with the gate? I don't know if the top >> I I think it's 270. 546 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:17,200 » Okay. And we have had gates before on 547 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:22,960 revocable licenses areas as long as they're never locked and they're always 548 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:28,079 open. Then um I think I remember one of those on an upper side of Beach Road, 549 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:32,400 not the not the beach side, but the other one. And there was a long 550 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:38,480 discussion about as long as the gate is always left unlocked for public access 551 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:42,319 should there be a need for it. So, I don't know that you actually I mean 552 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:47,119 that's a discussion and something to find out about if we need to remove the 553 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:51,920 gate or just make sure that it's always open. And then of course there's no sign 554 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:55,920 there so it no one would ever know it was lane. 555 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:59,440 » I if we were to endeavor on this as the priority and we move forward, 556 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,960 » we would put a sign, right? I'm assuming. Yeah. And quick correction, I 557 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:07,200 think it's 290. >> Okay. 558 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:12,160 » Oh, 290. Okay. I think I think the address with 559 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:18,079 » with the gate >> with the gate is 290 not 270. Yeah. 560 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:23,520 » Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, I think it's 290. That that 561 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:29,920 rings a bell. All right. Um, thank you for this. I I feel empowered to with 562 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,800 your ideas and and comments. Um, I'll open it up to Zoom. 563 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,880 No comments on Zoom. >> Okay. Are there any comments from the 564 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:47,359 room? >> Okay, 565 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:53,280 fantastic. Uh, we are now on item seven, update on fiscal year 2026 27 capital 566 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:58,880 improvement project requests. Tony, would you take it away, please? Excuse 567 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:05,200 me. Yes, absolutely. Um, this is really just um I realized that um I I probably 568 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:11,040 mentioned this before, so it's a it's an update, but um u the the committee is 569 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:17,200 not always aware of of the the CIP fund funding um mechanism and how it does 570 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:20,880 approve projects in the park. Um so just an update on on what has been approved 571 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:27,440 for this year. uh community park restroom um has an upgrade and uh the 572 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,280 community park ir uh irrigation well uh which has been in the works for a while 573 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:37,280 but um that uh has been funded and um and then the two smaller maintenance 574 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:43,040 ones are San Rafale Avenue uh pathway improvements um which is just repairs to 575 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:49,680 the the DG path out there um and then the mulch uh replacement out there too 576 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:54,160 um as a as a small CIP fund So those will be happening and we're 577 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:58,800 strategizing uh on how to get these completed uh in the next few weeks. 578 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:03,440 Well, the strategizing is happening in the next few weeks, not the not the 579 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:09,920 projects. Um on the San Rafale Avenue 580 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:14,240 improvements, since you brought it up, the rocks 581 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:19,920 that went in at the end where we are adjacent to Tibon's property. So there's 582 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:23,599 the culvert where the stream comes out. Is that there? Who did that? Did we do 583 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,480 that or did Tibbron do that? >> That was 584 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:31,359 » uh that was a Tibberon project. Yeah. Yeah, there's a part of that. So the uh 585 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:37,280 the jurisdiction line is is very close to that. And um there was a part of that 586 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:42,079 section was collapsing. So they did a a project to just shore it up. 587 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:45,760 » Yeah. Thank you. >> Can I ask for details on the restroom 588 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:51,280 improvements? Um Well, I don't really have any 589 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:56,960 details. Um, but um yeah, I I uh will happily uh provide an 590 00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:02,400 update and um but what I can say is is that um we are getting an architect on 591 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,760 board. Um there's there there's a renovation in the police department as 592 00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:10,000 well that's also been approved. Um so we'd like to get an an architect on 593 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:15,200 contract that can do uh work on both of them. Um, and yeah, as soon as we have 594 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:19,520 some some plans and and some concepts, um, be happy to share them. 595 00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:24,960 » Um, just reminding of feedback that we previously received around adding purse 596 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:28,800 hooks in the stalls. Um, and that might be possible to do 597 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,760 sooner rather than later. Um, and also just checking in on baby changing areas. 598 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:38,880 » Thank you for the reminder. >> Okay, 599 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:44,720 » great. Uh, any other comments on this item from the committee? 600 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:50,720 Anything on Zoom, Chris? >> No questions from Zoom. 601 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:54,400 » Any comments from the room? No. Okay, here we go. Item eight, discussion and 602 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:57,960 possible motion on new committee chair and vice chair. 603 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:07,680 No one's No one's >> that discussion is always very quiet. 604 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:12,240 » Exactly. Was waiting. Um, yeah. So, this committee meets infrequently. Um, I 605 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:16,559 believe last time we talked about the, you know, the term being eligible for 606 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:20,480 two years. I don't know exactly when the start date ends and whatnot, but it 607 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:26,319 might we're we're approaching the cycle where I'll be hitting two years as 608 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:30,000 chair. I know having read the code I can switch over to vice chair or someone 609 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:35,280 else could step into that and you can alternate between those two roles but it 610 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:40,760 um it either is time or will be time soon for uh someone to become the new 611 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,760 chair. 612 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,960 » Yes sir. >> So I'd like to start with that's very 613 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,800 disappointing. >> You've done a great job. 614 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:53,920 » Thank you. So, uh, it shouldn't go without being said that if you get a 615 00:51:52,240 --> 00:52:00,359 third year, I'd still put you there. >> Thank you. 616 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,359 » I second that. 617 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,800 » Did we I'm forgetting stuff. 618 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,280 Um, did we look at the terms? We did that a couple meetings ago when we 619 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:14,880 looked at the terms and we thought about amending the terms. 620 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:20,400 Is this anybody recalling this? Did did we ever go anywhere with that as far as 621 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:26,559 clarifying or amendments and did that get pushed through? 622 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:34,960 » Yes, it did. And um it uh it was changed to a two-year term um as the uh I think 623 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:39,680 one year is um standard. It can be extended to two years if I remember 624 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:44,079 correctly and after which a new chair would be uh would be in place and that 625 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:47,720 previous chair can return at some point to be chair again. 626 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:59,440 » So term a term limit of of two two terms. Yeah. So Tony, when is the date 627 00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:01,599 by which we need to? Do you know? Is it this meeting? We have 628 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:05,680 to >> It got It was confused because Jenna 629 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:09,599 left. The previous chair left to go to planning. So I don't know when I don't 630 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:16,319 know when exactly it was. I'm sure it could be figured out. 631 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:22,000 » Yes. Um I'm sure it can. And um I'd be happy to just get that clarified. Um 632 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:26,720 » well just to make it easy is the thought we need a new chair by next meeting. 633 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:32,240 » I think that would be good to aim for. Yes. Um I I think if there's any reason 634 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:37,839 that it's not we can um skip that that item on the next agenda. Um but I think 635 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:43,760 it's on the agenda for discussion at this meeting and at the next meeting um 636 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:48,559 we should plan to u have a have a nomination and a vote. So, I think one 637 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:54,960 of the things that we keep running into in the city is all the different start 638 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:59,280 and stop dates of committee chairs. And um I was just thinking since we're by 639 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:04,319 the time we have another one or two meetings that the city council makes all 640 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:09,440 their changes on the you know who becomes mayor, vice mayor, etc. every 641 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:13,359 meeting in December and so you don't have to think about it 642 00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:19,040 ever. It's always December. So maybe we want to line up with that. So it would 643 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:23,920 be a couple more months, but um like maybe in if we have I forget if we have 644 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:28,480 a meeting in November or early December, then that would be the appropriate time 645 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,800 and then we'd get on a schedule and then I think it would be great if we could 646 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:37,119 get planning commission also on the same schedule and it would just make it 647 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,680 easier for everybody instead of having to remember all the different stop and 648 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,240 start dates of each committee. I definitely agree. 649 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:47,760 » So, I don't know. Just I'm just throwing it out there as a thought. 650 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,920 » That would be that would be December. >> December. 651 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,240 » And then when Charlie, when do you report? When do you submit or sorry, 652 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:59,520 when do we submit our uh report? >> We present I believe in Feb. 653 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:02,400 » The Feb meeting. >> I think it would be largely drafted at 654 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,040 that point. >> Okay. 655 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:09,839 » That's all I'm solving for is kind of handoff at the 11th hour. 656 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,640 effectively it's meant to represent the >> the prior year 657 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:15,440 » the prior year so it'll be a report and then this um 658 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:19,520 » and then I think also during that presentation I would be as former chair 659 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,559 could come and comment on certain sections and maybe like maybe I would 660 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:25,920 give I could give a report on the previous year and then the new chair 661 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,839 could give an update on the priority for the next year and that might be a nice 662 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:34,720 passing of the baton. So, I would be supportive of that we put 663 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:40,960 this on that December agenda and then just mark it for December turnovers. 664 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,960 » Okay, I'm fine with that. >> Okay, 665 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:51,000 I guess is there a motion to make a decision and switch chairs in December? 666 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:58,480 » I move that we move in December to switch chairs. 667 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:02,160 » Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I 668 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:06,640 » I Yes. I Okay, fantastic. There any comments on Zoom from that illuminating 669 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:10,319 discussion? >> There's no comments from 670 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:15,200 » Are there any comments from the room? Surprise. All right. Um, perfect. We're 671 00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:18,799 moving on to future items. Discussion of possible items to be placed on the 672 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:23,680 agenda of upcoming meetings. One thing that did come to mind for me was whether 673 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:30,240 or not this group, we've had a lot of challenges scheduling this and it feels 674 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:35,760 somewhat ad hoc. And I wonder if a um well, it's not ad hoc, it feels ad hoc. 675 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:40,319 Um to clarify it. I wonder if we might consider a more regular schedule perhaps 676 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:46,000 six times a year or five times a year and it's like every third x every third 677 00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:51,680 Thursday or something like that. I I I think um that would help some of this 678 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,319 dialogue move along, I think. Um and hopefully it would help with 679 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,400 availability and things like that to just bake this into your collective 680 00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:02,480 schedule. So, um right now we're on the deck to meet four times. I would 681 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,160 consider bumping that to five, if not six, and then have maybe if it's six, it 682 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,880 could be every other month on some Wednesday or something like that. Don't 683 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:14,240 need to debate it now, but that is my proposal that we think about that and 684 00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:18,480 that be an agenda item for the future. Okay. 685 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:22,480 And try I'd love the the next time to be able to talk about 686 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:26,319 the budget for each of the the priorities just so we know what's in the 687 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:30,160 realm of possibility. >> Great. 688 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,480 » That will help with the report to city council. 689 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,520 » You mean the the each of the three things we talked about? Okay. 690 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,880 » And when I say budget, how much would be parks and lanes? How much would be 691 00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:48,400 maintenance standard maintenance of how it would be 692 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:53,040 divided up? >> Great. 693 00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:57,200 I'd love in the next meeting to get an update from John. I know that you had 694 00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:02,559 been had some level of dialogue with the Tibrron Parks Commission as it relates 695 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:05,680 to opening up different access points in Tibbron. So, if you could provide an 696 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,960 update in the next meeting, that would be helpful. 697 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:14,599 » Absolutely. And MA is going to meet with uh the Tan representatives in the coming 698 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,599 week. Okay, 699 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:22,000 Tony, do you have any items on your on your docket? 700 00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:25,839 » No, I think that's a pretty good list. >> Okay. Yeah. 701 00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:30,559 » Anyone else, Jane, or others? No. Okay. Anyone on Zoom have any ideas? 702 00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:35,760 » Uh, no, they don't. >> Okay. 703 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:40,240 Any suggestions? No. Okay. With that, we've moved on to open forum. This is an 704 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,119 opportunity for any citizen to briefly address the parks and open space 705 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,079 committee on any matter that does not appear in this agenda. Upon being 706 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,440 recognized by the chair, please state your name, address, and limit your oral 707 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,480 statement to no more than three minutes. Matters that appear to warrant a more 708 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,160 lengthy presentation or committee consideration may be agendaized for 709 00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:01,520 further discussion at a later meeting. First, turn to Zoom. Is there anyone who 710 00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:04,720 would like to speak in the open forum? >> There is no one on Zoom that wants to 711 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:11,680 speak. >> Sad. Um, anyone in the room? I knew it. 712 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:15,599 Okay. Um, you you've heard the instructions. 713 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:21,200 » Three minutes and counting. Start the timer. 714 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:27,760 » Started yet. There we go. Um, I know you discussed paddle board access. Um, and 715 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:31,680 something that I would love to see which doesn't necessarily get to paddleboard 716 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:36,559 access is the corner of what I think is Main Street and Beach Road. Uh, I 717 00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:41,680 believe somebody said there was actually a plan which uh was based off of 718 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,400 something in Denmark which had some steps that went down to that beach. Um, 719 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:50,480 and you could even make kind of a higher place to step over so you get a bit of a 720 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:54,720 retaining wall there as well. I would love to see that beach accessible. Uh, I 721 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,240 know parking is a bit of a concern because people are worried people might 722 00:59:56,319 --> 01:00:02,559 bring in paddle boards. I actually have a picture if anyone wants to see it of a 723 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:07,760 gentleman taking a kayak out there. Uh he was kneedeep uh and that's to the top 724 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:11,200 of his knee in muck. So uh unless you're at high tide, nobody's going in and out 725 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:15,839 of there with paddle board. Uh the beach though is a lovely little place. It I 726 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:19,119 could see a grandkid or a dog having a great time. I don't think it would 727 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:23,920 create a parking problem because I don't think it's going to be a big paddleboard 728 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:29,119 access point except occasionally uh at high tide. Um but just anything that can 729 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:35,400 get people closer to the water I'm in favor of. So, one minute and whatever. 730 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,400 But 731 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:43,200 » I think technically we think of it as AR, but I think technically it's 732 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:47,200 » Yeah. >> You're the three-way intersection, 733 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:51,319 right? It's a three-way intersection there. The other road coming from 734 01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:51,319 Woodlands. 735 01:00:52,960 --> 01:01:00,119 » Okay. Thank you. Is there a motion to adjurnn? 736 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:07,040 Yes. I'll I'll move to adjurnn. Is there a second? 737 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:12,040 » Second. All in favor? >> I 738 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,040 » I We are journed. 739 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:22,839 I love this.