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I want to call the meeting of the British and city council to order. Miss Wolff, please call the roll.

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Council members, words aye. Yes, hear me spotted. Yes, hear me. Ms. Sonsky? Here?

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Scott? Here. And mayor Young. Here. And please join me in that pledge.

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Yes.

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A plaque stating the fundamental rights of each member of the public is posted at the entrance to the meeting room,

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per section 4.04.03 of the city of the nation's open government ordinance.

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Under an answer, I have office hours on the first and third Monday of each month.

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From 4.30 to 6 PM, and if that time is not convenient, you can ask for a separate appointment

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by calling the City Manager's Office at 777-464208.

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We have no proclamations.

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We have no appointments.

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We have no presentations.

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So we'll move straight to the adoption of the agenda, Mr. Giuliani, are there any changes to

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the agenda?

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No changes, Mayor.

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We have a motion a second to adopt.

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Move.

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Second.

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We have a motion a second.

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Miss Wolf, please call the roll.

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Council members.

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Yes.

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Marcus Fata.

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Yes.

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And we have that takes us to the afternoon for public comment.

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And this is for anybody who would like to make comment on any item not on the agenda.

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And I'll ask first.

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Is there anybody in the audience who would like to make public comment?

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at this time? Mr. Hayes, please come forward.

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Yes, thank you, Mayor, and Council.

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I wanted to revisit a complaint.

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I made a couple weeks ago here regarding, we published services, our garbage provider

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in Benisha, and I had been having a problem with my bill.

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I had been charged for the last six years or overcharged for services that I wasn't receiving.

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I have a 20 gallon regular can and I was being charged for a 32 gallon can and on the bill for the last six years.

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The item is itemized as a 20 gallon can, so this was not caught by me.

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actually caught by one of the workers at Republic Services in the front office who, so fortunately

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that's how I pay my bill. I actually walked my bill into the front office over there in Pacheco

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and fortunately after six years somebody in the front office caught it. Otherwise I would have been

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blissfully ignorant of this, but essentially I've been overcharged for last six years, roughly

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about $10 to $15 every billing cycle, and for this larger candidate, I did not have, and

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so my complaint is that other people in Venezuela might be having this done, and the explanation

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I have gotten from Republic since my last time voicing my concern over this matter is that

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This was actually, according to them, a Republican error on their part, how it was entered into their system.

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I think this is like a failure on basic budgeting and basic accounting.

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Why the wine item on the bill does not match the actual number?

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To me, that invites lots of potential for problems.

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So, Republicans as a refunded or made a credit to my account, but they were only willing to go back three years of the six year time period and I'm trying to see if I could get the remaining three years credit, but it had to deal with the upper management, which is not very sympathetic.

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But again, I wanted to highlight this as a matter for public consumption that this could be

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having to other people, either here in Venezuela or elsewhere.

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And it seems like a failure of their republic's budgeting system.

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And of course, my idea of initially when I found out about this, you know, my mind goes

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to worst case scenario, you know, this is all the memes of garbage companies being, you know,

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standing for the Mafia and the...

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I'm just feeling off the skin and blah, blah, blah. But again, I wanted a highlight that's concern. Thank you much.

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All right, Mr. Ayes, did they give you a reason why they would only refund three years worth of?

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Apparently, I would call out services policy to only go back three years. And if you can request further that I'm hitting a wall, because the people in the finance department don't seem to want to take it up further up the chain.

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for whatever reason, and that's typical corporate corporate America, you know, you

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hit that wall, and it's very difficult to get over that. So that's what I'm

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encountering. Well, after the meeting, let me give you a name and phone number,

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somebody at Republic who might be able to help you out on that.

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Well, I appreciate that. And if I could just also let you know that

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the city has its own website, which lists a graph that shows the actual

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fees, but they're itemized on a monthly basis. It's not very clear, because obviously the

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bill is every three months, you have to note it, multiply by three. So there is a much

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clarity out there of action, what the rates are.

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All right, let me thank you, sir. Anybody else would like to make public comment on a night

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I'm not on the agenda.

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All right.

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Is there anybody online, Mr. Moderator,

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who'd like to make public comment?

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Yes, sir.

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Please admit them.

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Go ahead, Stephen.

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You went to the City Council for public comment.

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Yeah, hi.

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This is Steve Gallo.

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I think this public comment may be more

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pertinent to the city's business than the last time I

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zoomed in if anyone remembered.

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Remember, this is kind of an impractive public comment.

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But for what it's worth,

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If it's about the Air District Cadilless Grant application, if in fact it could be useful for the city,

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be the city council members, the city manager of city staff to mobilize our informed public opinion about this pending grant and whatever and how citizens can weigh in.

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I hope the initiative is taken on your part.

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for example through the city managers of useful weekly public emails and announcements.

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If everything seems to be an order in the city's perfectly confident that it will get all the

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money possible under this catalyst grant, find no problem. But in given the need to maximize funding

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and given that we're going to be asking for funds from at least two different tax measures in the

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coming year, which I support, by the way, I hope the city will take whatever steps are appropriate

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to notify the public of how it could weigh in with the year district. If it supports

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the city's efforts to raise funds through the hit's application, inform people how it would

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seem that the city could take a useful leading role in this regard. So, as again, to maximize

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revenues. Thank you very much.

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All right, thank you.

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Is anybody else who would like to make public comment on this?

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I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know not of the agenda excuse me.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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All right, I don't bring him back to the council anybody on the council.

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I'd like to make any public comments.

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I don't see any lights, so the closed public comment and move on to the consent calendar.

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And this is an opportunity to talk about, if anybody has any expertise,

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context, I need to divulge.

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Now it would be the time.

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We've got four items on the consent calendar tonight.

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We have the minutes from July 21st, special and regular meeting.

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We have a designation of a voting delegate for the 2026 League of

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California City's annual conference in Expo General Assembly.

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We have the acceptance of an award.

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The five-year grant with the Board of State and Community Corrections for the Proposition

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64 Public Health and Safety Grant Program, and approved the City Manager's Sign the

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Grant Agreement on behalf of the Indonesia Police Department, and approved budget amendments

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in the Police Department General Fund for fiscal 27, and finally an approval

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to waive the reading of all ordinances introduced or adopted pursuant to this agenda.

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Is there anybody who would like to pull any of these items?

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seen not as anybody in the audience who would like to pull one of these items.

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And finally, is there anybody online who would like to pull one of these items for discussion?

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Go to the building.

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All right.

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Then I'll take it back to the council for action.

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We have a motion.

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We have a motion.

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And a second.

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This will please call the roll.

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Council member's birth site.

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Like a smatter.

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Missinski.

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Yes, and that takes us to our first business item, which is an approval to place a limited city charter and real property transfer tax

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This ballot measure on November 26th, ballot. I don't know if this is going from the city manager to the attorney.

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Yeah, thank you mayor and members of the council.

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At your July 21st, 2026 City Council meeting, meeting, the council placed measures Y and Z on November 3rd, general election ballot.

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Shortly after taking this action, a member of the community objective to some of the language and each of the ballot questions.

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And in response to the subjections, staff further refine the language of the ballot measures and update the language for council consideration.

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After we published the agenda, we also heard from members of the community about further changes regarding measure why.

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And I'd like to read into the record of what I would propose to further clarify the ballot language for measure why under the ballot question under section four.

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What I would propose using for the ballot question is shall the measure adopting a limited city charter for the city

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Venetia that allows the real property transfer tax in measure Z to take effect if voters approved both measures

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Why and Z and continues the city's existing council manager form of government be adopted

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So that's my proposal to further supplement the measure why resolution in your packet that's been published and what are the changes that we should be aware of

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from the packet that was published versus what I'm proposing right now.

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Yeah, so I'll read again, and I'll explain what's been deleted from your packet.

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Michelle, the measure adopting a limited city charter for the city venue should that,

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and we struck out, has a single purpose, and says as that allows the real property transfer tax

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and measures to take effect, if voters approve both measures Y and Z, and then we deleted,

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And while everything else about how the city is governed stays the same and we added and continues

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the city's existing council manager form of government, comma, be adopted.

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I assume that makes a difference to lawyers, to the rest of us.

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It's not pretty much the same, but.

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Yes.

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So the council is being asked to consider this updated language.

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And if acceptable, we send the resolutions adopted July 21st and adopt the proposed

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resolution resolutions with the amendment that I just referenced, attached to the staff report,

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and that concludes my presentation.

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And we're only doing the language about the charter.

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No, in your packet, there's both measure-wide accuracy.

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So measure it, why is being revised also?

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Measure-wide is the charter and measure-Z real property transfer tax is being revised as

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well, and that I'm not proposing any further revisions tonight.

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The revisions are in your packet that were published.

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Okay, are there any questions for Mr. Stock?

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Okay, is there anybody in the audience who are open up to public comment, is there anybody who would like to make public comment on this item in terms of the revised language for the two tax measure vouchers?

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Seeing none, Mr. Moderators, anybody online who would like to make public comment on this item?

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All right, then I'll bring it back to the council for action, moved.

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Second, we need to do two of them separately.

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Just two of us.

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Yeah.

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The first resolution.

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The amended language.

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With the amended language is described by the city attorney.

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Second.

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All right.

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And we'll take separate votes.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So for the first item, this will please call the rule.

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Council Member's birth site. Yes.

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Service spotted. Yes.

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And then the second item has to do with

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Measure Z.

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Which is the real property transfer tax.

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And there is revised language in the staff report.

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Is it worth necessary to read it?

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So I'll move as presented by staff.

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Second.

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We've got a motion a second on the second part of this item, Mr. Wolff, please call the roll.

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Council members for our time. Yes, Larkis Bada. Yes. Ms. Sensky? Yes. Scott? Yes.

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And Mary Ann. Yes. And that takes us to 15B, which is an award of a construction contract and authorizing

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a budget amendment and approval of a notice of exemption under sequel for the corporation yard bathroom remodel.

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and this will come from our Public Works Director, Ms. Martinez.

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Good evening, Council.

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Welcome, we need tonight.

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We're going to have a very short presentation on our corporation yard bathroom.

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So, our current courtyard is over 50 years old, and we house our public work staff, which provide the central services to the city, and that to the community, our divisions include the fleet, water, and wastewater maintenance, street, and admin.

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The project consists of renovations and reconfiguration of the existing facilities with a scope including demolition and construction of new locker room areas for both men and women, a new UNICEF shower, revised plumbing system and reconfiguration of the existing space.

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The total construction cost of the project is 277,436 dollars, which includes a bid amount

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of 241,249 dollars and a 15% contingency of 36,187 dollars.

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Staff is recommending that we approve the construction plans and specifications and award

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the construction contract along with any other of the administrative needs that were listed

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in the resolution.

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As you can see here, we have a couple of photos.

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The first one is our portion of the locker room into the men's, the second one is the

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men's facility for a shower.

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The third one is the women's bathroom part as well.

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The fourth one is the women's portion of the bathroom along with the fifth photo.

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And with that, that leaves us two questions.

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Thank you.

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First, turn to Vice-Ramma Sonski's question.

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didn't know just real quick. Give me a why. Is it not safe, not compliant? We don't provide equal access to all employees give me a why.

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Yeah, currently the facility does not meet the current workforce needs.

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How can you expand on that?

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As you can see from the photos, Mr. Moderate group photos back up.

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As you can see, it's a very tight space in there.

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It's kind of hard to get the photos to recognize that area.

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Additionally, you can see that there's only one shower which is located in the men's side of the restroom.

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But when you're done, it's still only going to be one shower, but it will be a unisex shower.

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Correct.

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It would be taking the current three kind of hubby areas and turning it into three.

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It would be larger, more spacious and then in the center area it would be a unisex shower, which would accommodate both men and women.

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And this is all on the second floor of the building.

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No, this is on the first floor.

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Is it?

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Okay.

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I walked upstairs, but that was too.

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That was just going to be room.

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Yeah, that's actually Jose's office.

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Okay.

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So that would address any ADA issues.

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This project would address the ADA issues.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'll turn to Councilor Scott.

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Thank you.

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for something note that I took the tour of the facility and those photos are incredibly flattering.

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You must have had a 2000 or 2020 filter on there to try to make them better.

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My question is what other opportunities have you looked at?

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Or if you have you looked at, that you would look at rather than a complete renovation.

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and it's expanding on the Y and looking at what else could we do a quarter million dollars

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in a budget constrained period is a lot of money and what else could we do have you looked

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at that?

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We did look into a couple of other options, obviously this would the ADA is triggered right

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when you do a certain amount of the project so in order for us to do when we do the first

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part of the project, it would trigger that ADA, so there's that part to the project.

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We did look into the modules for onsite that were similar to I believe the police departments

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once.

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In 2019, those were around 200,000 for that model.

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Obviously, in today's economic state, it would be probably around 300 is what we're looking at.

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So obviously, that's a similar amount of what we're looking for.

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Obviously, we were still, you know,

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we already did the design, so there would that be

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that cost associated with it?

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Could it be brought down in cost,

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in order to ensure that we are still being compliant?

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But make it a little bit simpler.

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Unfortunately, this is the cost of the project.

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It is a high dollar amount we understand that.

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Um...

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But obviously, the ADA is an expensive portion when we have to start reconfiguring the walls in the doorways to make space for everything.

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So, could you explain the funding further than the way it was broken out on the staff report?

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Essentially, the funding is based off of the employees, because we have multiple divisions down there, and so those are the percentages based off of the employee number.

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not out of an improvement budget or any other budget that was set aside.

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Regarding the initial, is that what you're requesting about?

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So the initial budget was actually $25,000.

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That didn't even cover design honestly.

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The design itself was $26,000.

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And this project began, I believe I want to say three years ago when we first were hired

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on and it's taken us this long to get the budget to make sure that things were available

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and to get the design done proper.

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Thank you.

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So one of the things that struck me when I went out

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and took the tour was,

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and correctly if I'm wrong.

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The showers in particular would be used,

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for example, by water and wastewater staff.

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When there was a water main break,

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and they were working all night,

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and they came in and they were all dirty,

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and they needed to shower up.

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And also have a lockers that up so they can store their regular clothes.

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Back to Councilman, we've discussed a question.

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Does that mean then that water and wastewater would also take a portion of the cost of this?

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It is divided that way.

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Divide it three ways?

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It was four, I believe.

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Yeah, because we have fleet as well at the corporate.

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So it's fleet, general public works.

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Water, maintenance, wastewater.

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And that's sort of four.

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And streaks.

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Oh, and streaks.

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Well, that's five.

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Admin was an included in that.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Count to our largest for that.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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The vice mayor.

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Ask the why question.

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I'm going to ask the how question.

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My how question is.

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Can you explain how this project improves the day-to-day working conditions of our employees?

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question. As Mr. Mayor mentioned, we do have staff that work in our water utilities along with wastewater

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utilities. And so when they're in the field and they come back and they have sewage or mud on them

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or pesticides, any of that, we want to make sure that they have a safe facility that they can access and enter safely

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that meets code. And so that's a big part of it. Obviously we have other staff in there that are mechanics, right?

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They store their lockers in the art in there and they have access to, you know, storing their

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boots and their clothing so that when they change out of their jumpers that they have,

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you know, their clean clothes in there as well.

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And currently they don't have enough space to hold all of their belongings so you'll see stuff

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kind of straddled around in there and on top of the lockers.

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And for my understanding, these were hand me down lockers from years ago as well.

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And then through the chair of a follow-up question, I think the saw Mr. Shudie down there someplace.

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My question is, can you confirm that this request of $277,000 is about 4% of 1% of our general fund budget?

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It's not a budget dust.

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If you give me a moment to check out.

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Sorry, I can confirm that.

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And that's not a trick question, just looking for confirmation.

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Budget dust is a thing.

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People go to school to learn that word.

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And what was the percentage that you cited?

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If my math is correct, a four tenths of one percent of our general fund budget.

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And that number was, I think, based on 64 million.

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But I don't have the exact, the revised release number in front of me.

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Yeah, that's a good, sorry.

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is approximately correct, but it is important to note that the 277,000 project cost is split

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between water, wastewater, the general fund, and an ISF. So the general fund share is $25,000,

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not $277,000. The $67,000 share to water maintenance and to wastewater maintenance are from

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those respective enterprise funds and not the general fund. So whatever is finer than budget

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us. That's what the general fund contribution is. Correct. Okay. Yeah.

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Thank you.

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I just have one follow-up question. How much do we spend and I think this would be to you, Jeff? How much do we spend a year, approximately, on parks and wreck, restroom, repair and updating?

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Are you asking about public facilities? Public facilities. I don't, I don't have that information readily available.

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I'll go to public comment and then we'll come back and ask for some additional questions.

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Is there anybody the room, which is really Mr. Hayes, do you have any questions for this?

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He does, okay.

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Thank you, Mayor Council.

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Yes, I haven't seen the actual facility, even though I used to work for the city, you've

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finished about 10 years ago.

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As a janitor, cleaning the bathrooms downtown in many of our parks.

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I could say that a fresh coat of paint really could go quite far to make a facility look

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a lot better, assuming there isn't major plumbing issues.

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So if you're looking to save money, I would go that route just to grab a couple of the

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city employees that work in the corporation you're in and have them paint the bathroom,

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but that might not be met with a lot of enthusiasm, but if you're looking to save money,

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that's where I would go.

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And you suggest you're doing that instead of the corporation here?

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Thank you.

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Is there anybody online that would like to make public comment on this?

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Well, I do want to recognize the fact that we got a letter from Lori Grundman, who is a regular,

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but she's not here tonight, and I want to read that because it does raise some questions of my own.

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Because I'm ready to express my opposition to the resolution for the reconstruction of the bathroom at the corporation yard.

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While I understand the facility's required improvements, I don't believe Benicia's budget can support this 277,000-dollar expense at this juncture.

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There are an unlimited number of public facilities requiring maintenance, some of which

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cause nearly daily servicing.

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In my mind, it's difficult to justify this expense when alternatives are available.

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ADA portable bathrooms with showers and sinks would be one consideration.

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Residents currently use portable toilets at a few of our public parks.

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Perhaps this can be revisited in a future budget cycle.

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So, one of the concerns that I had that I've expressed earlier to the staff has to do with the really bad condition of the bathrooms in the parks.

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And the juxtaposition of spending this kind of money on staff bathrooms versus not spending money on public bathrooms in the parks was a little jarring and something that I had

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some difficulty reconciling in my own mind.

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So I did ask, and I'm hoping that you can provide some general information as to what it

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would cost to replace fixtures, toilets, urinal, sinks in public bathrooms, as opposed to,

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but just to give us a general sense of scale.

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Yeah, we were able to obtain a few quotes, so for a pre-fablet, like a pre-fab already constructed

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drop-in bathroom, that's around 150 to 200,000.

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That's a pre-fablet, but in the, within the existing structure?

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No, like just a brand new one, for example, so we got some quotes on those, and that would

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be like the cement slab, it just gets dropped on, it connects to, you know, rubber our next

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make this. Then we also did what we kind of discussed was kind of a software model like the

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fixtures, the lighting, the paint, the recoding of the floors, stainless, like sinks,

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and toilets. That is going to be about 30,000 for a location. And that's like the, kind

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of like the boxy ball. So that was the one that we quoted at Civic. And then we also got

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quote for similar, but at community park, so the larger one there, and that would be around

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120,000.

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Yes, for the fixtures.

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It would be a team of the floors, and I actually have everything lined, itemed out just

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in case we had additional questions, but that would be for the fixtures, the repaining, the

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recoding of the floors, the lighting, all of that would be about 1224.

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I believe there's 12, I want to say.

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So I think everybody would agree that our condition of our bathrooms in the park is bad. The parking, the parking court, bathroom is beyond bad.

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And I think it's important that the community see a commitment from the city to make improvements in those facilities.

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So, I guess part of my question is, if we go ahead and do this tonight, would there also be the ability either through a discussion of a plan, which is going to happen, I think on September 1st, or existing alternative funds where we could just start the process, do a couple of bathrooms in the short term, and just, I think it's important that the community sees our commitment to parks and bathrooms in addition to our own staff bathroom.

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Yeah, we're scheduled to have the plaid come back to Council.

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I believe on September 2nd.

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And we will be living this year.

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So by the time around this time next year,

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we'll have collected almost a full year of funds.

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And as long as the bathrooms are located within a current park,

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we'd be able to make that a CIP or a project depending on the dollar amount.

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If it is outside of a park, that would require additional separate funds outside of the plaid.

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And the Batchi Court is outside of a park as Dr. Zipark.

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That is a park.

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That is a park.

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Yeah.

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Mr. Giuliani.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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A few things.

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One, as noted, we're going to have an opportunity to talk about parks in the discussion at programming

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for our parks landscape and lighting assessment district and they'll happen next month

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in early September.

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And so in that conversation, it really appropriate time to talk about parks and planning ahead on how to make those

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I think it's worth highlighting again that this project has been years in the making and it really does

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underscore kind of what we have to do in Indonesia and that we identified a situation where we have a

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responsibility as a company to provide a battering facilities for our employees that also provide

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facilities for both male and female employees and it's been more than three years in

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making that we can have identified funding to do design,

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put money away in order to do this project.

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Similarly, so with almost all the projects that we do,

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it takes us years in order to identify the problem,

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put money away and take care of it.

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And I think you're going to see that opportunity

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we're discussing for the plaid.

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Obviously, we're going to look at the opportunities

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that we have in our existing maintenance budget

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to see where we can appropriately put funding

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to address park bathrooms sooner rather than later.

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we want to be efficient and diligent with those dollars, but staff is already working on that.

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And I would be remiss if I didn't take the opportunity, and I think Council Member

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Lauder Spada, the reason you had four tenths of one percent in your mind is because that

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is the percentage that we just talked about with the real property transfer tax.

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Just so happens, Councilwoman Berger.

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here.

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Yeah.

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Our finance director confirmed that the current budget can support this 277,000 dollar expense

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at this juncture.

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Thank you, sir.

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Yeah.

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No clarifying question.

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It's just a final comment.

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I think that's what we're at.

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If we're, there's a motion should there be a motion for.

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And the comment is this.

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I appreciate the clarification for the direction on the plat because that was going to be my comment as a follow-up to some legitimate questions around priorities.

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I think priorities or prioritization is a much bigger discussion where I think as a council we could get more proactive.

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But back to the facilities, the public facilities, I would agree with everyone 100%, but again,

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thank you to staff for pointing out that, well, there still needs to be a bigger

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conversation around the allocation of the platform funding.

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I could say, well, at least from this end, that we're going to find some money for those

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facilities.

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They may not come as fast as we'd like.

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It's certainly not going to come before that, but it's going to come.

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Anyway, final comment I like to make is this.

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And that is that, you know, we ask, I'm standing obvious, but you know, we ask our public

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works employees as well as all our employees, you know, to take care of our infrastructure.

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So I think it's reasonable for us to make a modest investment in theirs.

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And so, you know, I will be supporting the staff recommendation and request.

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Gentlemen, we're just going to make a mirror.

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Just a quick question on plan prior to the station.

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So, that's hard word to say. If we discuss this in September, when would we be actually spending the dollars in parks?

455
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Well, I want to try carefully because we are off agenda.

456
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:16,440
Yeah.

457
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:26,100
So, well, not technically in the sense that if we're going to say that we're going to delay, or we would

458
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:30,440
use dollars potentially from flat to fixed bathrooms.

459
00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:36,940
We can give a sense of when we might be doing that.

460
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:43,860
If we're spending money and kind of not trying to conflate the two, but on employee bathrooms

461
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,080
and on parks bathrooms.

462
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,740
For clarity and preview, we will be talking about

463
00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:59,360
flat program and prioritization at the first meeting in September recall the

464
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,900
flat assessment doesn't even go into effect until this month and it's only an

465
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:09,560
additional $1 million dollars. So all told it'll be about $1.4 million dollars that we

466
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:18,360
will not have in the bank until this time next year. So for the five that's collected in

467
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,060
and we will spend it in 27.

468
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,020
And thank you, because that's my point.

469
00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:28,600
My point is that while we will be

470
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,480
potentially well intended by moving forward with this,

471
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,540
we can't say to the public that

472
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360
these dollars are going to be spent

473
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,200
perhaps next year or even the year after

474
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,720
in order to fix bathrooms that are in dire need.

475
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,540
So, thank you.

476
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:53,440
Yeah, I would just add that it doesn't necessarily have to be planned dollars.

477
00:36:54,140 --> 00:36:57,520
That could fix a bathroom with $25,000 or $50,000.

478
00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:03,320
We have other sources that we can look at and we can talk about that on the first of September.

479
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:12,080
I would hope that if we're only talking about replacing pictures and painting that we don't hire somebody to design this.

480
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,240
I mean, it's already there.

481
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,980
What we're doing is just replacing there.

482
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:18,940
And so I would just sort of lay that out there.

483
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:20,380
So when we talk about it on the first,

484
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:24,260
that would be something I might repeat at that time.

485
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:26,340
Any other comments?

486
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,920
I don't see any lights.

487
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Almost staff's recommendation.

488
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Second.

489
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:34,600
Let me get a motion and a second.

490
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:36,360
Ms. Wolf, please call the roll.

491
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,240
Council members, Berzberg's aye.

492
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,140
Yes, Berzberg's.

493
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,580
Berzberg's?

494
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:39,720
Yes.

495
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,500
Ms. Sonsky?

496
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:40,940
Yes.

497
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:41,400
Scott?

498
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,320
Yes.

499
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,640
in Marion. Yes, and believe or not, we are adjourned.

500
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,540
Now, it's 640.