1 00:00:01,010 --> 00:00:18,730 Good evening. I want to call the meeting of the British City Council to order. And before we can be in the open session, I need to say that Vice Mayor Massensky, it will be participating remotely, pursuant to government code 54953. 2 00:00:19,650 --> 00:00:25,210 Vice Mayor Massensky's teleconference location has been properly noticed on the agenda and is open to the public. 3 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:35,650 So, if anybody's in gray eagle, and they want to join Vice Mayor Mascensky, they can do so members of the public may observe and participate for me as a council chambers or the notice to remote location. 4 00:00:36,450 --> 00:00:44,070 So, I asked, I know that the Internet connection might be a little sketchy in gray eagle, Vice Mayor, are you with us? 5 00:00:48,890 --> 00:01:00,670 Okay, we will ask that he joined us when if he is able, so with that we'll start with the roll call, Ms. Wolf, please call the roll. 6 00:01:01,490 --> 00:01:08,010 Council members, birds aye here, Larga Spada, Ms. Sensky, Scott here and Mary Young here. 7 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:13,350 And now please join in the pledge, Mr. Smith, would you like to lead us in the pledge? 8 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:22,600 I'd like to be notified for the United States of America. 9 00:01:23,420 --> 00:01:24,840 Do you want to come up with a question? 10 00:01:25,740 --> 00:01:30,180 I want to make sure you have the opportunity to understand. 11 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:39,990 A plaque stating the fundamental rights of the public is posted 12 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:41,410 at the entrance to this meeting room, 13 00:01:41,570 --> 00:01:46,110 per section 4.04.03 of the city of Adetia's open government ordinance. 14 00:01:46,670 --> 00:01:59,070 Under announcements, I have mayor, I have office hours on the first and third Wednesdays of each month and if those from 430 to 6pm and if that time is not convenient, you can make an appointment through the city manager's office. 15 00:01:59,950 --> 00:02:03,050 We have no proclamations, we have no appointments, but we do have a presentation. 16 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:12,490 And so we're going to hear from former Mayor Jerry Hayes. Mr Hayes, the floor is yours. 17 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:24,040 Thank you, Mary Young, and Council members. 18 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:41,340 First, let me extend my thanks to the invitation from City Manager Goliwani to address you on a subject that will impact myself, my family, and all the citizens of Venetia. 19 00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:52,340 The subject of concern is the closed IT Pinoche Poxic Waste Facility, which is located 20 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:59,480 on our northern border just off Lake Herman Road into those who don't know our city limits 21 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,900 run on Lake Herman Road. 22 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:06,780 Let me be clear why I am bringing this to your attention. 23 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:17,500 I am a long time resident of Venetia, my children and grandchildren live in Venetia, and I 24 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:21,020 will always be concerned about their health and welfare. 25 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:32,080 When I was elected to public office in the 1990s, I accepted responsibility for the health 26 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:40,220 and welfare of all Benetians has have all of you currently serving on our city council. 27 00:03:42,190 --> 00:03:46,490 When I took office as a council member in 1992, 28 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,640 I was made aware that we, i.e. 29 00:04:04,780 --> 00:04:04,780 the city of 30 00:04:04,780 --> 00:04:13,740 the road's drive bridal property without proper remediation of our former city dump site. 31 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:21,200 Our city was dealing with a flood of costly lawsuits actually over 100. 32 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:30,660 And a reputation as a refinery town in a former toxic waste disposal destination 33 00:04:30,660 --> 00:04:39,020 that depressed property values for all of our homeowners. The packet of documents 34 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:47,320 I submitted to you a few weeks ago contains numerous records of the nastiest and 35 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:56,220 most hazardous materials deposited on our doorstep over the 20 year operation of 36 00:04:56,220 --> 00:04:58,840 facility. In addition, 37 00:05:00,020 --> 00:05:17,260 To extensive records of off-site leakage and pollution onto adjacent properties, including the verified pollution of eddy creek located on city owned property. 38 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:30,660 Although this class one toxic dump east operations in 1986 and was officially closed in the early 2000s, 39 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:38,880 not one gallon of the millions of toxic gallons. Yes, millions. 40 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:51,140 He posited onto this site, nor one ton of the millions of tons of highly hazardous materials 41 00:05:51,140 --> 00:06:02,500 dumped there, including, for example, arsenic, asbestos, PCBs, et cetera, has been removed 42 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:14,780 during or since closure of this site, allowing any development on properties adjacent to 43 00:06:14,780 --> 00:06:24,440 and down slope to a closed-class one toxic waste dump would expose future residents to 44 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:34,520 potentially irreversible health risk, no amount of signage and seeing landscaping or marketing 45 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:45,960 can change this basic reality. It would also set a troubling precedent. It would signal 46 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:54,700 that Venetia is willing to lower its safety standards and gamble with public health and 47 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:59,740 safety in order to meet development goals. 48 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:09,080 What I am asking of this council is that you fight for us, the residents of Venetia. 49 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:24,900 Mary young, you in particular, but long and hard against aphos to prevent a daily oil train from rolling into our community. 50 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:34,060 That effort in my opinion contributed to our citizens using you to the office of mayor. 51 00:07:34,060 --> 00:07:41,560 That was a commitment to smart, safe, and responsible planning. 52 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Today, the initiative can and should pursue additional housing that does not place current 53 00:07:51,880 --> 00:08:01,640 and future residents at risk, or burdened future generations with preventable health problems. 54 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:10,900 The leading leaders' first responsibility is to protect the health and welfare of our community. 55 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,820 The responsible choice is clear. 56 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:28,880 Now, any of my fellow clinicians who wish to verify the sad record of contamination from this abandoned toxic dump 57 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:41,520 And easily access the data from the records of the regional water quality control board for WSUCV, 58 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:53,060 citing a notion of Venetia. In addition, the state agency, which by law, is required to ensure 59 00:08:53,060 --> 00:09:03,260 that all closed toxic waste facilities in the state of California are safely and properly monitored 60 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:13,000 is the Department of Toxic Substance Control, Reviation DTSC. 61 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,440 All inspection and violations are available to the public. 62 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:32,880 on their website under the heading in Viro Store as ENVI ROS TOR followed by Penoche Venetia. 63 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:46,780 The most recent inspection of the Penoche Venetia site was conducted in February 2026 this year, 64 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:52,540 And it noted four violations of the site closer to permit. 65 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,980 This site has leaked from its very first day of operation in night. 66 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:22,720 1966. And it leads today. My question to our city leaders, as well as all of our residents, is simply this. Is anyone watching? And does anyone care? Thank you for your attention. 67 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:27,040 I'd be glad to answer any questions if you had it. 68 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:28,520 Thank you, Mayor Hayes. 69 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:33,720 First of all, I want to thank you for your time and the effort that you put into this presentation. 70 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:37,060 And for the kind words that you said about me, 71 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,720 but I should think in fairness, I also need to acknowledge that Councilwoman Murders, I was with me on the planning commission. 72 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,940 He dealt with the crude-by-rel project. 73 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:49,300 I want to recognize her contribution to that effort as well. 74 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:53,380 But I don't see any lights on. 75 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,740 I do see a light came on from our city manager, Mr. Giuliani. 76 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:05,320 Thank you, Mayor. I just want to ask that our city attorney read something into the record prior to public comment when council's ready to do that. 77 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:08,820 Hi, everyone. I'm Mariam. I'm here filling in for Ben. 78 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:10,140 Yes. Good to be here. 79 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:19,280 I just want to confirm for the record that this item is a presentation specifically about the disposal facility and its history and not an item about any development in 80 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:27,320 or around or near the city, as such discussion is limited to any discussion of development 81 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,900 is outside the scope of the notice agenda on this item. 82 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Thank you. 83 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Thank you, Mayor. 84 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:33,600 Appreciate it. 85 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:34,280 Thank you. 86 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:42,000 We'll now move on to the adoption of the agenda. 87 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:44,600 Mr. Giuliani, are there any changes to the agenda? 88 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:45,820 No changes, Mayor. 89 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,060 Do we have a motion a second to adopt the agenda? 90 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:52,120 So move second you got a motion a second this will please call the roll 91 00:11:54,250 --> 00:12:00,770 Compton members for it's aye. Yes, Larguis Bada Scott. Yes, and Mary and yes, yes 92 00:12:00,770 --> 00:12:04,050 And we assume may have misunderstood vice-marammer sense because he hasn't been able to join us yet 93 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:10,290 Okay, not yet mayor. He did note prior to the meeting that he was in a rural area where 94 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:16,870 Reception might be difficult, so he might be on late. Okay, so that takes us to the opportunity for public comment 95 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:29,670 And this is the time when anybody can speak to a matter not on the agenda and we would ask only that you limit your comments to think that are within the subject matter and discretion of the city to act upon. 96 00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:36,250 So with that, is there anybody in the audience who would like to make public comment on an item not on the agenda? 97 00:12:42,270 --> 00:12:55,350 I'm here to follow up on what Jerry Hays has told you from his own experience and because I was around at that time and participated, cutting my teeth really. 98 00:12:55,730 --> 00:13:08,470 And the very earliest days that I was here following the IT closure and it was a perilous job for the Maryland or the mayor at the time spent two terms. 99 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:10,190 trying to close that dump. 100 00:13:10,810 --> 00:13:13,730 And when we're talking about a class one has a swastone, 101 00:13:14,010 --> 00:13:15,510 there are only nine in California. 102 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:18,930 That one was built at the time we got our refinery. 103 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:22,430 And it wasn't closed until, I mean, 104 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:27,670 Valera at that time, exon had enough time for 20 years 105 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:33,930 to send toxic from their waste stream to that dump. 106 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:34,970 There's no doubt. 107 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:38,410 There was refinery waste found on Rose Drive as well. 108 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:47,050 So what I want to tell you about is this book that's my gift to Jerry, and I was going to bring it tonight to give it to him. 109 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:49,910 It's called Petroleum 238. 110 00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:56,150 And on it, it's by a young man who spent seven and a half years investigating across the country, 111 00:13:56,670 --> 00:14:03,430 the kinds of ways that refineries and anybody operating an extraction well, 112 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:08,250 or a fracking site, or an injection well, 113 00:14:08,570 --> 00:14:12,370 where they put waste brines from extraction processes, 114 00:14:12,610 --> 00:14:14,070 what they do with them. 115 00:14:14,630 --> 00:14:19,050 And this book is so frightening, quite frankly, 116 00:14:20,010 --> 00:14:23,050 what's gone on for all these years without us knowing. 117 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:25,850 It says, they've known for 110 years, 118 00:14:26,070 --> 00:14:28,110 but haven't done a thing to stop it. 119 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:30,150 It's the secret of the century. 120 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:36,490 So as a refinery with the House with Christmas decorations right in front of it, it says, 121 00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:41,790 in an extraordinary seven-year investigation, Justin Noble traveled the United States reporting 122 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:46,790 on the oil and gas industry and learned a disturbing and little-known fact. 123 00:14:47,270 --> 00:14:51,250 A lot more comes to the surface at a well than just the oil and gas. 124 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:58,250 Each year, the industry produces billions of tons of waste, much of it toxic, and radioactive. 125 00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:59,970 That's what we don't know about. 126 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:07,430 The fracking boom has only worsened the problem. So where did it set all go? And we have evidence that 127 00:15:08,390 --> 00:15:16,490 there will be an injection well out in your Brentwood used for putting toxic waste down into the ground. 128 00:15:17,330 --> 00:15:26,190 And we know those wells leak. Anyway, the main point here, and the reason why I want to give this book to Jerry is because we know there are refinery waste 129 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:30,810 at IT. It only cements the fact that it's a very dangerous 130 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:37,170 empowerment of toxic waste of all kinds, whether it's herbicides or 131 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:41,570 every sort of chemical that you can't put in a regular dump at that time. 132 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:47,350 And there is record from Jerry's record that in 1996, for instance, 133 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:51,270 there were such rains that percolated through the cap, 134 00:15:51,270 --> 00:15:56,670 for that impounded dried out toxets and so water if it 135 00:15:56,670 --> 00:16:00,630 seeps through the cap takes those toxins and can spread it 136 00:16:00,630 --> 00:16:06,010 in groundwater or into paddy creek or wherever. So, this isn't over, guys. 137 00:16:06,390 --> 00:16:10,850 What is in that hazardous waste dump stays with us? And we shouldn't. 138 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:17,270 One of our general plan goals is to not build housing near toxic waste sites. 139 00:16:17,550 --> 00:16:19,370 Thank you. All right. Thank you, Ms. Bardet. 140 00:16:20,390 --> 00:16:24,650 Is there anybody else who would like to make comment on an item not on the agenda? 141 00:16:26,090 --> 00:16:26,670 Mr. Smith. 142 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:29,480 Hi. 143 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:31,100 Good evening. 144 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:32,080 I'm Dan Smith. 145 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,960 I'm representing the leadership friends of the playground, a group of parents and grandparents 146 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,260 and some of whom helped build a playground. 147 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,920 I want to give you a very brief update on the playground of dreams and city park. 148 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:54,780 In 2025, our organization solicited donations from Venetia parents and we bought a swing set 149 00:16:54,780 --> 00:17:00,660 approved by the city because all the swings had been removed from city park. 150 00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:07,580 We picked one that the city had approved and it arrived at this past February. 151 00:17:07,580 --> 00:17:16,380 In March, the city manager told me now we just have to hire someone qualified to install it. 152 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,440 In April, one hour before I made a presentation to you guys in April. 153 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:28,780 He called to say that they had a contract and he said at the meeting that it would be installed in five to six. 154 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:30,600 It was no. 155 00:17:31,420 --> 00:17:39,940 Here we are, another summer past with no swings in our highest profile park in town. 156 00:17:41,580 --> 00:17:45,800 If I had to guess, I would say that that's because we don't have a parks department, 157 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:48,040 dissolved into the public works. 158 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:56,100 Now, I realize that for many people, it's much more important for public works to fill 159 00:17:56,100 --> 00:17:59,400 in the town, and that's understandable. 160 00:18:01,060 --> 00:18:06,260 I just want to say that small children live in this town, 161 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:07,220 hundreds of them. 162 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,260 And I would venture, I guess, that they would rather 163 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:15,380 simple, hot swing set was installed in the playground 164 00:18:15,380 --> 00:18:17,520 than a pot holder was built. 165 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:20,260 Unfortunately, they don't pay taxes. 166 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:24,190 One last day. 167 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:33,810 But last three October and many before that our organization has helped lead a volunteer work day in October 168 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:40,770 in order to make the playground safer and relatively sprint to free. 169 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:46,470 The city has thus far postponed giving us a date to have this work party. 170 00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:49,090 I just don't know what to think. 171 00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:55,070 All right, thank you. 172 00:18:55,070 --> 00:19:03,870 And since we're here, could I ask Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Martinez, what's the status of the wing installation? 173 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:09,150 Yes. So as noted, contractor was hired. 174 00:19:09,630 --> 00:19:14,570 It's a small job and that contractor's designed to do that work in September. 175 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:16,490 And y'all do we have a date? 176 00:19:17,170 --> 00:19:20,990 They're wrapping up their end of summer programs right now. 177 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:25,630 So it could be made September, but if they have an opening prior to that, they're going to 178 00:19:25,630 --> 00:19:29,350 give us a 24 hour and then they'll be on site, just because it's a very small job. 179 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:30,470 It's a one day job. 180 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:37,150 And the ability for the work party day, we've talked about that. 181 00:19:37,630 --> 00:19:43,290 Yeah, we responded to Dan earlier, I want to say in the month, to notify him that as we 182 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:47,870 got closer to the Halloween and the holiday seasons that we didn't want conflicting items 183 00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:49,960 at the park and that we would be in contact soon. 184 00:19:50,970 --> 00:19:51,950 But we haven't picked a date yet. 185 00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:52,950 We have not. 186 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,920 You had 30 seconds left and when I cut you off, 187 00:19:58,380 --> 00:19:59,980 but you realize with a volunteer of it. 188 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:15,520 The sooner the better the publicity, the more successful it's going to be. We've had this swing set since February. We have this workday every year. Still, they can't even give me two weekends of a possibility. 189 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:28,070 I think you've been heard of. Thank you. Is there anybody else who would like to make public comment on the item not on the agenda? Mr. Moderator, is anybody online who would like to make public comment? 190 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:33,790 All right, then we'll close the public comment period and move on to the consent calendar. 191 00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:39,850 We've got four items tonight, the minutes from the August 4th, regular meeting. 192 00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:44,970 A note of intent to vacate a portion of the right away at 650 East End Street, 193 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:48,070 and setting a public hearing for September 1st, 194 00:20:49,090 --> 00:20:53,070 an authorization for the Sloan Transportation Authority to claim 195 00:20:54,690 --> 00:20:58,250 Transportation Development Act funds for the Fiscal 2627 196 00:20:58,250 --> 00:21:01,990 Venetia Lift Program and Approval of Program modifications. 197 00:21:03,790 --> 00:21:06,430 And the approval to weigh the reading of all ordinances introduced 198 00:21:06,430 --> 00:21:08,430 or adopted pursuant to this agenda. 199 00:21:09,570 --> 00:21:12,650 Is there anyone on the council who would like to pull any of these items? 200 00:21:13,210 --> 00:21:13,890 Councilor Scott. 201 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:15,130 I'd like to pull 14. 202 00:21:15,490 --> 00:21:16,030 Please, me. 203 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:16,610 All right. 204 00:21:16,990 --> 00:21:17,250 14. 205 00:21:17,490 --> 00:21:18,710 Thank you. 206 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:20,670 Anybody else? 207 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:27,250 Okay, and is anybody in the audience? Who would like to pull an item? Anybody online who would like to pull an item? 208 00:21:27,850 --> 00:21:32,470 All right, then I'll look for a motion on item 14 AB and D 209 00:21:33,850 --> 00:21:37,630 So moved second. I'll get a motion in a second. Ms. Wolf, please call the roll 210 00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:48,210 Council members, Bird's Eye. Yes, Larga Spada. Yes, Scott. Yes, and Mary Ann. Yes, and so we'll come back to 14 C and Council member Scott 211 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:49,490 Thank you, Mayor. 212 00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:56,130 I'm representing not only the City Council, but I'm in kind of a interesting position 213 00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:57,970 of also representing Seoul Trans. 214 00:21:58,930 --> 00:22:11,670 I would like to offer two changes to the recommendation, and the two changes are one that 215 00:22:11,670 --> 00:22:22,650 We placed in the modification of the raised structure for the $3 and the $4 rate increase to move up a dollar. 216 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:32,450 That's really only going to raise $1,300, but that is really targeted to Medicare low-income handicapped people. 217 00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:39,750 It seems like that would be a significant penalty to go from 3 to 4 or 3 to 5. 218 00:22:40,170 --> 00:22:43,150 So I'd like to suggest that we keep it at $3. 219 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:45,190 The impact is only $1,300. 220 00:22:46,530 --> 00:23:01,450 And the second suggestion is we are reducing the amount of ridership from 60 to 20 passes 221 00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:08,970 per month per month. I'd like to suggest that we consider adding a hardship 222 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:13,690 application that if we have a number of residents who work in 223 00:23:13,690 --> 00:23:19,070 Venetia or live in Venetia and work in Venetia and they use this as their vehicle 224 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:26,490 to get back in fourth and need to increase it to 30 or 40 rides that for that 225 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:31,790 hardship that we would then review that hardship and then make a decision. 226 00:23:32,530 --> 00:23:37,830 I just want to remind everyone that the success of this program has skyrocketed 227 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:45,990 from 343 rides coming out of COVID to almost 11,000 in five years. 228 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:55,370 And the cost is now being transferred to utilize our TDA funds that come from the state 229 00:23:55,370 --> 00:24:05,570 to MTC to STA and that are held at Sultrans and so now we have the opportunity to claim 230 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:12,630 that dollar so it shifts the burden of all of that from the city of Benicia over to 231 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:21,770 STA to claim the funding and by taking this action we provide a hardship for any kind 232 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:25,590 transportation and issue of people who live and work in the city. 233 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:27,410 All right, thank you. 234 00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:31,990 I'll hold back comments on that until after we hear from the public. 235 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:35,550 Is there anybody in the public who would like to speak to the question of the list program? 236 00:24:36,030 --> 00:24:37,610 Any changes that were contemplating? 237 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:39,730 It's Grundman. 238 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:45,240 My bad. 239 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,620 I didn't read this one before commenting. 240 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:51,700 I apologize for that. 241 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:59,380 Is the only change to cost proposed to read to $4? 242 00:25:00,110 --> 00:25:10,890 Or there's also a change that the bigger change is the people who are not low when come, who are not disabled, the normal, I don't say normal. 243 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:20,890 The non-disabled portion of the community who uses a lot more, that fair is proposed to go from five dollars to seven dollars. 244 00:25:20,890 --> 00:25:24,530 Okay. And you don't have a problem with that increase? 245 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:33,750 No. In the number of years in the success of this program, this program has become wildly 246 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:40,070 successful because it brings people into the downtown. It relieves parking into the downtown. 247 00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:47,470 It allows people to not have to worry about a designated driver or whatever. And the popularity 248 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:54,790 of that program for the $2 increase, I don't think it's going to have any impact on a person's 249 00:25:54,790 --> 00:25:55,490 night out. 250 00:25:55,950 --> 00:26:01,070 And the subsidy amount, the actual cost of a lift or an Uber ride is around $20. 251 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:08,910 So, go from five to seven for people who are not low income, I think is a reasonable increase 252 00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:09,850 after five years. 253 00:26:09,850 --> 00:26:17,010 And, and that's not for get the fact that we are transitioning the full cost of it from 254 00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:23,470 put between the city and Seoul trans is now going to be a burden that will be on the 255 00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:24,350 TDA dollars. 256 00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:25,890 It will be off of the city. 257 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:35,550 So that 100 and out of the $123,000 would be coming out of TDA dollars, not the city dollars. 258 00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:40,790 We know what percentage are low income. 259 00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:42,490 It's very small. 260 00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:45,750 The numbers are in and the staff report. 261 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:48,470 They're just in the low hundreds. 262 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:50,690 Okay. 263 00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:53,550 The number of rides over, fortunately here. 264 00:26:53,850 --> 00:26:54,790 All right. 265 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:55,290 All right. 266 00:26:56,650 --> 00:26:56,930 Support. 267 00:26:57,370 --> 00:26:57,650 All right. 268 00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:58,890 Thank you. 269 00:26:59,030 --> 00:27:01,650 Does anybody else would like to make public comment on this item? 270 00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:06,650 Mr. Monitorator is anybody online who would like to speak to the side of him. 271 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:10,890 All right, then I'll close the public comment period and bring it back to the council. 272 00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:16,570 I'm going to support what Vice Mayor Arsari, the council member Scott did. 273 00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:21,930 He's speaking to this, he's been the chair of Soul Transfer four years running out or if not more. 274 00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:25,770 So he's four years, four more years. 275 00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:33,090 So he is intimately aware of these issues. 276 00:27:33,650 --> 00:27:37,310 And these are dollars that come through MTC to STA. 277 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:40,410 A lot of acronyms that I apologize for. 278 00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:44,830 Those dollars in are split up put on the seven cities by population. 279 00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:48,110 And we get a chunk of that. 280 00:27:48,490 --> 00:27:51,150 And part of that money is been used. 281 00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:55,070 Well, not much, you know, $20,000, but we're at. 282 00:27:55,070 --> 00:28:00,310 And basically, as Councilman Rift said, moving those dollars away from the general fund 283 00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:05,210 to these $TD-8 dollars, so I think, as a long run, it's a good move on. 284 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:07,650 I'm going to support this emotion. 285 00:28:07,790 --> 00:28:09,210 You want to make a motion in that? 286 00:28:09,410 --> 00:28:10,930 Before you do that, Councilman. 287 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:13,250 Okay. 288 00:28:13,330 --> 00:28:15,290 Let's, before you do that, Councilman. 289 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:15,830 I would like to respond. 290 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:16,610 Thank you, Mayor. 291 00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:17,370 Do the chair. 292 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:18,410 Councilman Scott. 293 00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:18,990 What? 294 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:21,390 So you want to go from. 295 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:29,730 So the staff recommendation is to lower the subsidized fairs from 60 to 20, but you want 296 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:33,130 to bring it up to 40 potentially for those that can demonstrate hardship. 297 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:44,490 Well, the increase would be determined by this group, but my suggestion is to take it 298 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,990 40, so that would be a work day. 299 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:51,130 Every work day they would have a back in a tune from work. 300 00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:55,550 Do you have an idea what the cost of that would be? 301 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:58,550 It doesn't, the cost doesn't really impact us 302 00:28:58,550 --> 00:29:01,310 because we, the principal issue on the table, 303 00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:08,470 is transitioning the dollars from the city to TDA dollars. 304 00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:12,750 So the cost would be, 305 00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:21,850 Well, the entire revenue increase was $23,000 going from $5 to $7,000, which is not really large. 306 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,020 So maybe $10,000 of TDA dollars, $15,000? 307 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:32,320 I think it would really depend on how many people are talking about. 308 00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:34,080 How many people are there to actually? 309 00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:35,900 And we don't have that number. 310 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,920 That's the problem. 311 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:42,000 The system does not have, because it's a private contractor's mover. 312 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,380 we can't tell how many times people are using it. 313 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,240 Well, we can tell that we don't know. 314 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:53,680 There's only a handful of people who use it more than 15, 60 times a month. 315 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Those are the ones we can't track. 316 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,500 But that's a lot. 317 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 And so to reduce that, 62. 318 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,240 40 in the instance, where it's a person who works in the lives of the Venetia. 319 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,060 Why was it never touched him to begin with? Why are we talking? 320 00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:13,200 Because there was a belief, I think, that 60 was a little bit excessive. 321 00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:18,440 That some people were overusing the program. 322 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:28,100 And that part of the way we wanted to do is, okay, we could move this TDA money, but we also should look at ways of reducing the cost of the program. 323 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:36,540 Through the check, who would bear the administrative responsibility of determining this hardship? 324 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,240 How would the STA get? 325 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:38,680 That's right. 326 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,480 Yeah, they managed the whole system. 327 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:42,720 What if we just left it at 60? 328 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,920 Well, you wouldn't say much money. 329 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,120 We're trying to both move money for the TDA, 330 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:51,240 it moved off the general fund, 331 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200 and established some tighter guidelines. 332 00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:02,580 We had different programs at SDA that sold transit ministry where it was called, like, uh, last 333 00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:03,760 right home or last year. 334 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:09,340 Yeah, where people would, you know, say that, well, I missed the bus, and so, by me and 335 00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:13,280 Uber from El Salvador, and there were people who were abusing that. 336 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:16,740 They would just order it, and as soon as they got there, whether the bus was coming out. 337 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:21,680 And so we had to figure out some way to try to limit that type of abuse. 338 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,260 Yeah. 339 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:29,780 I'm not saying anybody's abusing it here, but if somebody's using it 60 times a month in Banesha, that's a lot. 340 00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:33,780 But we're also trying to establish a guardrail. 341 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:43,040 And that guardrail says we're going to limit to 20 rides and be cognizant of that. 342 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Because this is growing so exponentially that at some point we're not going to have the funding through TDA dollars 343 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,000 in order to maintain it, and then we would get to where we were and we were at a crossroads 344 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:06,240 where the city could no longer afford to continue to fund this. So we went to TDA, they said they 345 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:12,360 could claim that the money from TDA, we get, I'm sorry to talk in acronyms. The TDA dollars 346 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,020 is $1.5 million dollars. That is the out of that is the amount for a Venetian. That covers 347 00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:26,020 the 40, the 70, the red, and yellow, and includes the express, and includes the... 348 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,060 And this comes out of that pot. 349 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,020 So at some point, if it keeps growing, we're not going to have to make some hard decisions about 350 00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:40,780 mass transportation compared to micro transportation. 351 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:51,040 Yeah, I think what I'm going is whether it's 1300 or 20,000 bucks is it like to say it's like budget dust where I'm going is like 352 00:32:51,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Why not just keep the numbers where they're at if people are using whether it's for hardship or last mile last mile in and of itself I think is a legitimate use of this kind of transportation. 353 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,180 But I'll follow your direction on this one. 354 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:13,780 All right, so you want to make a motion? 355 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,460 So the motion would be to accept, I'm sorry. 356 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,400 No, we've done it. 357 00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:24,760 So the motion would be to accept the consent item 358 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,780 as written with the change of maintaining 359 00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:33,120 a $3.00 and the $4.00 rate as is. 360 00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:37,300 And having STA prepare a hard ship application 361 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:47,800 for those Venetians who live in work in the city and request a higher number of five dollar 362 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:54,560 rides. $7. $7. $7, excuse me. Yeah, thank you. All right, I will second that motion. 363 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,300 We got a motion. A second, Ms. Wolff, please call the roll. 364 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:07,280 I have some members, birds, I am, yes, Larga Spada. Yes, Scott. Yes, and Maria. Yes. And that takes us to the 365 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,660 to tonight. The first is an introduction and the first reading of an ordinance of 366 00:34:11,660 --> 00:34:17,100 Mending, various sections of the initiative, Municipal Code, to update the Finance 367 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,580 Director references, clarify procurement, and contracting authority, and make 368 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:25,860 related administrative clean-up amendments, and this will come from our administrative 369 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:27,680 services director, Mr. Shuddy. 370 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:36,710 Thank you, Mayor Young, and Councilor Mike. The proposed amendments are administrative in 371 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:47,890 And to address specifically two needs, the amendments do not enhance, constrict or otherwise change, procurement and contracting requirements, methodology or authority levels. 372 00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:58,790 No red line version is presented as is customary with code changes based on city attorneys advice that these changes are prick. 373 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:59,390 Cheers. 374 00:35:01,580 --> 00:35:08,880 The proposed municipal code amendments are recommended for two reasons. The first is to reestablish a second authorized 375 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:15,340 signer. Code prescribes two positions as authorized signers, the city manager and the finance director. 376 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:23,900 With the change of finance director to the administrative services director, the city is in a precarious position, where we only have one authorized signer. 377 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:35,840 It is recommended that we reestablish the second signer to protect the city from unintended consequences should the city manager not be available to sign and for administrative efficiencies. 378 00:35:36,860 --> 00:35:47,280 There are 50 40 instances in code where finance director or director of finance is stated and those instances will be replaced with the administrative services director. 379 00:35:48,320 --> 00:36:00,800 The second need is for clarification and consistency of language for procurement thresholds in six different sections, affecting the purchasing regulations for goods and services and contracts for services. 380 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:13,320 The transition threshold amounts, specifically 20,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 200,000 are the specific amounts which are not clearly identified in the existing language. 381 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:22,220 The proposed language is stated as equal to or greater than, and in other cases equal to or less than, 382 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:30,040 where existing language varies and is stated as between the amounts or up to an amount, leaving that discrete amount, 383 00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,940 up to interpretation, and subject to inconsistent application. 384 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:41,840 The administrative procedures are in place and working well to ensure that compliance with 385 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,000 municipal code requirements for all procurement. 386 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,080 Further, our annual independent financial audit reviews internal controls and compliance 387 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,920 with policies and procedures including procurement and periodically samples procurement activities. 388 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,500 Through the auditing process, no compliance deficiencies have been identified and no policy 389 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:02,540 changes are recommended. 390 00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:09,840 The policy limits and procurement methods are working well to meet the needs of the organization and respond to community needs. 391 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,920 Staff recommendation is to read by title only and introduce the ordinance, 392 00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:19,300 amending various sections of the Benetian Municipal Code as it is presented. 393 00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:23,490 Thank you. 394 00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:27,290 We'll take it first to the council for clarifying questions. 395 00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:32,830 I don't see lights, so I'm going to start it off with a couple of questions. 396 00:37:34,110 --> 00:37:46,310 2.6.03 is appointment of deputies and it says that you, the administrative service director would be authorized to appoint a deputy administrative service director. 397 00:37:47,150 --> 00:37:49,810 My question is does that position already exist in the city? 398 00:37:51,490 --> 00:37:53,570 That classification does not exist, no. 399 00:37:53,750 --> 00:38:00,130 But why would we give you authority to appoint to a position that doesn't exist? Why would we first create the position? 400 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:08,910 That's a good question, and again, the intent of this item is to address the precarious 401 00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:13,430 nature of only having one signer and it is not intended to be a comprehensive review 402 00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:14,810 of all code sections. 403 00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:20,530 If there was a desire to create a deputy administrative services director, that position would 404 00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:23,350 return to council for creation of it. 405 00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:26,170 That would happen first before you would appoint somebody. 406 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:38,350 If I made further clarification, we also had a previous assistant finance director, which no longer 407 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:38,970 exists. 408 00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:40,830 The position has been eliminated. 409 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:44,710 We haven't had such a position in a long time. 410 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,330 But the position still exists. 411 00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:47,890 The position still exists. 412 00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:54,790 But we could switch that to this, so I think what Jeff is highlighting is we're changing 413 00:38:54,790 --> 00:39:00,390 of the inactulars on certain positions and so we're just noting that we at one time had an assistant 414 00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:06,530 finance director for which the finance director was able to designate and we're making that 415 00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:13,530 consistent with the same type of structure that we have within other departments. That's not to say we're 416 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:18,310 hiring a deputy administrative services director. We're just making consistent with the 417 00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:24,710 titles of that department now. Okay so giving you that authority does it necessarily mean you 418 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:27,270 and exercise it, because there is no position. 419 00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:32,710 It would take additional steps in order for that to be accomplished, yes? 420 00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:42,590 Two, one, six points, zero, seven, talks about duties that would be transferred, 421 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,060 transfer 422 00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:47,740 of duties, 423 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:56,280 the financial and accounting duties are imposed upon the city clerk by section 424 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,760 1, 2, 37, 2, 1, to 37, 2, 10. 425 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:08,800 Would be transferred to the administrative services director. What are these duties that the city clerk has that would transfer to you? 426 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:22,640 There are no duties that the city clerk currently performs, which are going to be transferred. This is carry over language, which former duties were transferred to the finance director and we're replacing the language of finance director with administrative services director. 427 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:28,660 So that where historical purposes the duties that were the city clerics which have already been transferred 428 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:32,160 are still identified as having been transferred to this position. 429 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,080 So would it be cleaner just to wipe out this section altogether if it's not you didn't? 430 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,420 I would defer to the city attorney for that. 431 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:47,120 Okay, a similar, but I'm not expecting you necessarily have an answer to that. 432 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:51,220 But if you want, we're certainly willing to listen. 433 00:40:51,220 --> 00:41:01,040 And my next question is similar, 2.48.01 says that 434 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,400 talks about duties which are not performed 435 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,100 by the city treasurer, are transferred to the city clerk who's ordered to form all such 436 00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:13,420 duties. 437 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:22,880 What you just said is there aren't any such duties for the city treasurer that are supposed 438 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,120 to be moved to the clerk and through the clerk to you. 439 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480 The next sentence in that section identifies that the city 440 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,240 treasurer still countersign warrants and serve on the local tax oversight board. 441 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,600 Those duties are not transferred they remain with the city treasurer. 442 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:46,480 So those that would be the only duties of the treasurer. 443 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:53,120 But nothing would be entrancered from treasurer to you or the treasurer to the least of 444 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,340 you. 445 00:41:53,340 --> 00:42:06,620 We would need to review the duties of the treasurer as identified in code to conform that to confirm that, but again, this, this item is is only narrowly looking at the position description of finance director and replacing it with administrative services. 446 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:13,340 I'm just thinking if we're looking at the code and making changes, but as well, I understand that intent. 447 00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:18,500 I'm telling you that this item was brought forward to Council to address a very discrete 448 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,720 precarious situation, I'm only having one signer, and we did not do a complete review of 449 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:29,020 all positions identified in code, and to affirmatively answer that question, we'll require 450 00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:29,780 further review. 451 00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:36,840 Okay, 3.08.08 makes reference to a purchasing officer. 452 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,920 Who is that? 453 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,120 Are you the purchasing officer? 454 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Yes. 455 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:49,020 So why wouldn't we, since we're making these changes, change all references as a 456 00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,860 pertinent, seeing officer to administrative services director 457 00:42:55,830 --> 00:42:58,830 instead of having to come back again and do it a second time? 458 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:05,450 It is the opinion of the city attorney and myself that that is not necessary and that 459 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:09,970 replacing the finance director with the administrative services director retains all the 460 00:43:09,970 --> 00:43:13,470 rights of the purchasing officer as they exist in code today. 461 00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:23,410 Okay, well, it's seen that we're going to come back and do this again, probably if what you're saying is we have to do further cleanup. 462 00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:33,450 There is no intent to do further cleanup at this time. The intent is to address the precarious nature of having one signer and to provide clarity on those threshold transition amounts. 463 00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:36,170 Okay, let me move on. 464 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:47,340 So, the next sections sort of have to do with using, well, two different things. 465 00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:49,960 Using informal contracts, 466 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,880 the threshold of those contracts, 50,000, 100,000 or 200,000, 467 00:43:57,940 --> 00:43:59,360 if it's public works, 468 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:07,380 and the idea that we can, or that we allow contracts to be let, 469 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:16,980 If they were bid by another agency, not by ourselves, but by another agency, with, quote, substantially the same requirements. 470 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,600 Do you consider this a good practice? 471 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:30,480 I do consider that a good practice, and I also believe that is an opportunity for the city to leverage further than we do today. 472 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,300 There are state contracts, which would fall under this clause. 473 00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:44,200 There are cooperative purchase agreements, which are designed to be bid specifically for the purpose of other agencies using them by taking advantage of larger volume, which results in lower cost. 474 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:58,120 And there are discrete one time contracts that one agency may issue, which generally meet the needs of another agency and the city has taken advantage of those situations as well. 475 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,800 Let it all fall in, but... 476 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,640 In all of those situations, a cost savings and a time savings has been realized in the procurement methods. 477 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:22,800 But it also leaves out certain companies or vendors who might have a alternative product and alternative ability to provide what we're looking for, but they haven't been approved by some third party agents. 478 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:32,820 The example I have is an electric police car that, in the past, we were told, well, it 479 00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:35,760 doesn't really exist in the condition that we want. 480 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,460 It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that police want in terms of base for computers 481 00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:42,540 and the like. 482 00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:48,800 But there was, in fact, a company that said, oh, no, we are making exactly that thing and we're 483 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,820 providing it to other police departments and we're doing it at a cheaper price using this process 484 00:45:54,820 --> 00:46:01,380 that company wouldn't be even allowed to bid and we would not have the advantage of a 485 00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:08,040 couple of car at lower price. I think that you're making some general statements about 486 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:14,000 a specific situation which I can't validate because I don't have those materials in front of me and that 487 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:27,360 Any company is able to bid on any RFP offered by any public agency, the timing of which might impact which companies are soliciting for responding to those proposals, right? 488 00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:37,320 And the timing on when the our city might utilize one of those contracts might impact which agencies are part of that, but in no way is any company restricted from participating. 489 00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:39,400 But they would have to go to that other agency. 490 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:52,400 No, they would have had responded to the initial request for proposals, and so there is a timing of impact of that too, and when we utilize a contract from another agency, we look at the timing when that contract was offered. 491 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,360 And if it is not current, it is not valid, right? 492 00:46:55,580 --> 00:47:00,680 So it has to be within a reasonable amount of time for it to be considered a similar process. 493 00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:08,940 Well, I had larger issues. I had a long conversation with the city manager today. He sort 494 00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:15,200 of talked me down on a lot of it that had to do with my concern, and this is something we 495 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:24,340 can talk about at goal setting next winter, is that I don't think the council has enough 496 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,660 oversight on the spending side. We have oversight on the revenue side. We have long 497 00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:38,540 larger budget responsibilities that happen in a very large context, but actual decisions about 498 00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:45,840 contracts, they don't come to us. They don't come to us unless it's a past a certain number, 499 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:52,180 and in many cases it's after the fact. And I'm not going to ask for any changes at this time, 500 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:59,220 but I wanted to sort of say to my colleagues up here and others that my preference would be a 501 00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:09,180 a little bit more council involvement in the not the development of an RFP review of an RFP, 502 00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:15,280 something that would get us involved on something more than a after the fact basis. 503 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:23,340 Now, we have a budget committee, a council budget committee that has I think been helpful in terms of getting that kind of 504 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:28,620 are understanding of spending. We're going to have a different council budget committee next year, 505 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:35,360 or perhaps have a different council, but maybe not. But I would like you to think and the staff 506 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:42,620 to think about, how is there a way that we can involve the council on a little bit more granular 507 00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:51,500 basis that simply a oversight after the fact review. So that's, I'll leave it at that. I'm not 508 00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:54,780 asking for any action or necessarily responsible as you want to. 509 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:54,960 Yeah. 510 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,400 If I may. 511 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,660 I think that that's starting to blur the lines between policy and administration. 512 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,760 And it's important to recognize what the role of council is as the policy setting 513 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,400 body. 514 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:12,780 And if there is a desire to have greater control over the approval of contracts at a lower threshold, 515 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,220 the results will be that work takes longer to complete because the contract in the process 516 00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:21,480 will take longer because there will be more items that need to come to council. 517 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,700 And there is a timeline and an energy and a amount of staff that is required to bring things to council. 518 00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:32,080 And so warf will slow down if we lower the thresholds for procurement. 519 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,900 If I may may. 520 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,240 Robust conversation. 521 00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:43,120 One that I think we can tee up when we talk about our two step requests and really think our 522 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,600 teeth into when you as noted, we can talk about this in goal setting. 523 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,260 So, I want to kind of bring this back to specific task at hands, which really is administrative 524 00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:59,140 clean up with idle change as well as clarifying the language with regard to the thresholds 525 00:49:59,140 --> 00:49:59,840 of their all-consistent. 526 00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:07,710 Okay. So, a couple of lights up, one on and came off. You were no longer, now, or are you? 527 00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:15,650 If I may, I would also jump in and say we could take public comment and then bring it back for actual discussion, because I think it was going into discussion. 528 00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:17,710 But if you have more questions, please. 529 00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:29,510 So, I don't see any other questions, so let's thank you for the prompt. We'll move it to public comment on this item. Is there anybody in the audience who would like to make public comment on this item? 530 00:50:31,050 --> 00:50:35,250 And is there anybody online who would like to speak to the side of them? 531 00:50:36,190 --> 00:50:36,510 All right. 532 00:50:36,770 --> 00:50:38,070 Then I'll bring it back to the council. 533 00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:40,110 I don't see any other lights. 534 00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:40,990 I've made my comments. 535 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:41,910 And now I do see council. 536 00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:43,130 My regards for that. 537 00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:45,110 I was just going to add. 538 00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:49,790 I appreciate the direction and the feedback from the city manager. 539 00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:55,410 I would just ask that you continue to refine the request. 540 00:50:55,410 --> 00:51:10,090 Because my slight pushback is that we see these budget items in the consent calendar, and as business agenda items, the terms, the contracts, the bidders, I mean, is all there. 541 00:51:10,590 --> 00:51:11,790 I think we are- 542 00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:16,150 If it exceeds that price, we don't see it if it's under $100 or $200,000. 543 00:51:16,890 --> 00:51:22,190 I don't know what costs under $100,000 these days, but that's a whole other conversation. 544 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:29,690 But again, the point is, I'm good with what we see now, I'm good with our level of participation, 545 00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:36,270 but look forward to what you add to it and just encourage you to kind of refine specifically 546 00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:38,150 what would satisfy you. 547 00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:41,430 Yeah, well, I'm not suggesting anything at this point. 548 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:44,410 I was going to talk about the threshold of miles. 549 00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:49,990 But the issue of pulling things down is real when we have an emergency, it's real. 550 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:52,150 We've got everybody's spot on this spot. 551 00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:58,550 There are other things that are a little bit longer in nature, and when we're hiring consultants, for example, 552 00:51:59,270 --> 00:52:05,970 I want to be sure that we have that we're open enough to the larger consultant community 553 00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:12,650 who might want to bid rather than, you know, two years ago, they didn't get on a list that somebody else put out, 554 00:52:12,970 --> 00:52:14,750 and therefore we're not going to consider others. 555 00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:21,330 Yeah, I mean, the only thing I will add, just to kind of expand on what the 556 00:52:21,330 --> 00:52:25,510 Jeff, what's your new title, the administrative officer and the director. 557 00:52:26,330 --> 00:52:27,470 Administrative Services Director. 558 00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:29,970 I like Chief of Staff, but we'll go with the administrative officer. 559 00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:34,150 But seriously, Jeff was going down his path. 560 00:52:34,430 --> 00:52:39,830 Again, it's been my experience both as a council member and as a professional that deals with 561 00:52:39,830 --> 00:52:47,650 a bidding process is anything that takes a dollar from a city, a county, a jurisdiction, a state, 562 00:52:47,890 --> 00:52:53,830 the Fed's, etc. is publicly advertised. So with the electric car example, I think just 563 00:52:53,830 --> 00:52:59,050 response was appropriate. It could have just been timing that at that time, this organization 564 00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:07,170 of this company just hadn't submitted and or wasn't qualified to submit a bid, best for them, 565 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:09,210 maybe now that we will see them in the future. 566 00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:11,370 Should that be a picture of my item? 567 00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:14,390 All right, Councilwoman, where is that? 568 00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:17,230 So I'd like to introduce the ordinance. 569 00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:25,770 And it will be brought back by, or a second reading. 570 00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:29,910 So do we need a vote or a roll call now? 571 00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:31,370 We do. 572 00:53:31,370 --> 00:53:38,170 Okay, so is my just making the first motion? 573 00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:41,050 Well, the motion, the recommended action, 574 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:45,530 wave the first reading, read by title on them, and introduce an ordinance 575 00:53:45,530 --> 00:53:47,710 of the City Council of the City of Malaysia, 576 00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:51,230 demanding various sections of the Malaysia Municipal Code 577 00:53:51,230 --> 00:53:53,790 who update references to director of finance 578 00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:56,950 and finance director to administrative services director 579 00:53:56,950 --> 00:54:00,130 to clarify procurement and contracting authority 580 00:54:00,130 --> 00:54:03,310 to make related administrative clean-up amendments. 581 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:05,110 And I'm going to stand. 582 00:54:06,530 --> 00:54:11,330 I got a motion. I'll second it. Ms. Wolf, please call the roll. 583 00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:16,450 Council members, for it's aye. Yes. Larga Spatez. Scott? Yes. 584 00:54:16,450 --> 00:54:23,390 And Mary Ann. Yes. And that takes us to 15B, which is an approval of the revised fiscal 585 00:54:23,390 --> 00:54:28,390 27 capital improvement program, and that will come from our Public Works Director, Ms. Martinez. 586 00:54:35,890 --> 00:54:37,130 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 587 00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:41,910 Neil Larry will be given the presentation tonight, who is our Deputy Director for Public Works and our City Engineer. 588 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,800 Good evening, Mayor. 589 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,840 Council members. 590 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,620 I'm happy to present the capital improvement program, 591 00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:52,600 fiscal year 2627 for your approval tonight. 592 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,000 The capital improvement program. 593 00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:17,410 This plan addresses city capital needs in the next year, so I'd speak to the purpose. It's a financial planning tool to address annual fiscal constraints on spending, denote funding sources and operating impacts of project. 594 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:29,890 The CIP is drafted every five years, but updated annually, and the next five year CIP will be presented to Council in 2027 for approval. 595 00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:40,160 The next slide is short, it speaks to state law that requires the city to prepare and adopt a capital permit program, 596 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:50,580 Otherwise, no, as a CIP, and to annually updated by resolution and the government code is there. 597 00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:59,780 The guiding documents in our CIP, there's a list of them here. General plan, certainly a guiding document. 598 00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:04,660 The utility master plans, both water and wastewater are guides. 599 00:56:05,180 --> 00:56:13,720 We, every two years, we update the pavement management report, and that is a source of information for us. 600 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:29,240 The Parks Master Plan, we work with our partners at STA, this salon and transportation authority, and a number of arenas, and they put out a bike and pedestrian plan that helps us with the CIP, the traffic impact. 601 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:38,140 program, another guiding document, the STAC for us to school plan and the transportation and 602 00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:43,400 employment center plan. The CIP is a needs-based program. 603 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,580 There's a list of goals here. 604 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:55,340 The CIP must align with the general plan and we've highlighted a few here in this slide. 605 00:56:55,340 --> 00:57:03,880 I'll go through a few, goal 2.12 is to strengthen the downtown as the city's central commercial zone. 606 00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:12,260 Another one here, goal 2.20, provide a balanced street system to serve autos, pedestrians, bikes, and transit. 607 00:57:13,540 --> 00:57:21,620 And finally, the last one on this list, the goal 4.17, worked to secure and maintain a sustainable and resilient water supply for Venetia. 608 00:57:24,780 --> 00:57:31,760 There's certainly a series of funding sources that back our CIP, a portion of them are here, 609 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:38,240 gas tax, and Senate Bill 1 is a big source for our Streets program grants. 610 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,760 We're always looking for grants to bolster our CIP, and there's a number here. 611 00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:47,220 A lot of an acronyms there, you got the Highway Safety Improvement Program, 612 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:51,180 safe routes to schools, state transportation program, transportation 613 00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:56,580 development act, priority development area, and one bay area grant. 614 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:01,680 These are a few of the fund sources that we go after consistently to support our 615 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,500 CIP. 616 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:08,640 Other funding sources, we got the utility, enterprise funds, water waste water. 617 00:58:09,340 --> 00:58:12,680 We, of course, rely on the general fund for peace of the CIP. 618 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:23,620 Measure F, measure that was brought at the voters approved in 2024 provides 4 million annually to our roads program. 619 00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:30,640 We have the traffic impact fee fund and finally in this list we see the landscape and lighting assessment district fund. 620 00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:36,590 So we split the CIP up into four categories here. 621 00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:39,330 I'll start with the second one is the streets program. 622 00:58:39,370 --> 00:58:42,230 We have seven projects listed under water. 623 00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:48,690 we have one under wastewater, we have five, and then we finally have this other catch-all category 624 00:58:48,690 --> 00:59:00,290 called other, which has nine projects and that focuses on Marina facilities, parks and 625 00:59:00,290 --> 00:59:01,590 other CIP. 626 00:59:06,130 --> 00:59:13,930 In this CIP that we've presented tonight, we provide all the projects with the funds 627 00:59:13,930 --> 00:59:17,670 that have been obligated to these projects. 628 00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:22,910 Starting here with the other category, I'll highlight a few. 629 00:59:23,390 --> 00:59:26,950 We recently brought the Marine Breakwater Repairs Project 630 00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:32,290 for the construction award to council in that project 631 00:59:32,290 --> 00:59:38,850 is a $4 million project on the fiscal year, the current fiscal year. 632 00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:42,570 Another one to highlight here would be the Corporate 633 00:59:42,570 --> 00:59:50,070 bathroom remodel, which was the award of that project was brought to council last, council meeting. 634 00:59:50,810 --> 00:59:54,030 And you're seeing it here for 280,000 total on fiscal year 27, 635 00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:58,910 and we will be bringing you the 636 00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:59,970 train depot preservant. 637 01:00:02,620 --> 01:00:15,100 I believe we're targeting September 1st for the construction award and we're showing that at 360,000 total on fiscal year 27. The total of the other, you're seeing here at 7.3 million. 638 01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:24,320 Next category is the streets, and we're showing the streets coming in at 7.4 million in fiscal 27. 639 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,520 Of course, the headliner there is the 26-pavement job, which is at 5.7 million. 640 01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:40,820 You also see the 27-pavement and 28-pavement. These are all measuref funded. 641 01:00:40,820 --> 01:00:47,480 And those are, they're showing up as design tasks in fiscal 27. 642 01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:54,240 And I would highlight that the 2027 pavement project, which, 643 01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:58,660 and 28, which focuses on the downtown in 2027, 644 01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:03,140 it will also include in the bid Westeye. 645 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,340 A portion of Westeye, I believe, is the 100 block and Bayview Circle. 646 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,000 And then finally we have the utilities represented in the last two categories. 647 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,080 Start with the water. 648 01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:23,960 We have one project that loaves road, raw water, transmission line, emergency, permanent restoration 649 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,720 project. 650 01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:29,720 This is a project that's funded by, we're looking to be reimbursed by FEMA. 651 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,740 We're showing it at 3.6 million in fiscal 27. 652 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,160 That's the sole water project that we're showing for this fiscal year. 653 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:48,620 wastewater has five projects that are in the fiscal 27 budget or plan and they total 3.3 million 654 01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:57,000 approximately and they are spread between collections projects and treatment plan upgrade projects. 655 01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:03,520 The total through all four categories in fiscal 27 is 21.5 million. 656 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:08,170 The next steps will present 657 01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:10,850 the five year CIP to City Council in 2027, 658 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:16,770 and without it invite any questions that the council 659 01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:17,430 may have. 660 01:02:17,830 --> 01:02:18,590 All right, thank you. 661 01:02:20,310 --> 01:02:24,830 We'll start with clarifying questions that I'll start with, Council Member Largisvata. 662 01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:25,830 Thank you, Mayor. 663 01:02:26,010 --> 01:02:27,850 Thank you, Mr. Larry, for the presentation. 664 01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:31,330 Three quick clarifying questions. 665 01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:35,010 These budgets include the contingencies as well. 666 01:02:41,610 --> 01:02:41,670 Yes. 667 01:02:42,070 --> 01:02:42,450 Okay, great. 668 01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:51,920 And then, we're going to spend about $5 million dollars to get item to break water. 669 01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:53,520 I'm just kind of curious. 670 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,100 I mean, the question. 671 01:02:56,780 --> 01:02:57,740 Council member, if you can. 672 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,140 Thank you. 673 01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:02,280 I was saying, you know, we're going to spend about $5 million on 674 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,560 Rita infrastructure improvements. 675 01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:13,840 So my question is, is the team have a bigger plan in place, a vision of other 676 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:19,580 improvements out on the horizon or are these just kind of like one time improvements? 677 01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:29,960 Good question. The Marine of Rakewater is coming in and we're seeing it as a $4 million 678 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:38,000 project and that is a project that's we've been working on for a number of years and bringing 679 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:46,800 it forward. At this time that is we are reaching out and doing a five year next five year 680 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,920 we're going to bring to Council in 2027 and we'll be researching the needs out there in the 681 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,340 Marina and updating at that time. 682 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,860 And then the second question is, 683 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,920 he tells more about the simple crossing shoreline path and 684 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,420 improvement. 685 01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:07,800 Specifically, I'm just kind of curious, is that also going to include 686 01:04:08,740 --> 01:04:10,020 landscaping improvements. 687 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,120 I understand that there's a mural that will be going in that area as well. 688 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:28,840 So we'll just surrounding property, I don't know if it's a park, a median, I don't know what it's dirt, but does this project entail landscaping improvements as well? 689 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:42,100 There are no landscaping improvements in this project that we're calling the simple crossing shoreline path improvement project. 690 01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:54,560 It focuses on the stairs and the replacement of the stairs as a upgraded path along the shoreline 691 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,920 as that connects between up to the cold of sac. 692 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000 On west page. 693 01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:08,360 Oh, so it's not like the path that comes back to the neighborhood. Is that's kind of? 694 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,300 Yeah, there's a path that goes to the houses. 695 01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:23,100 Correct. It's the paving of that rocky, not unpaved path and over that paved path that comes 696 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:24,480 down to that house on that point. 697 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,040 And the final follow-up. I'm sure you're going to have a great answer here. 698 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:35,160 I know that the following year that zone is planned for street improvements, 699 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,340 simple crossing, simple port. 700 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,740 So, the reason why we're not doing those at the same time, 701 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:49,760 like when we do the path improvement, is the reason why it was kind of separated by a year. 702 01:05:52,990 --> 01:05:59,690 That is correct. The streets in that area are part of the 2028 pavement rehab program we're doing. 703 01:05:59,690 --> 01:06:09,170 the west side of first street in 2028, the east side goes in 27, and the shoreline path 704 01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:16,290 project, we're showing in fiscal 27, so it would precede the pavement work, and I think 705 01:06:16,290 --> 01:06:25,550 that's appropriate to get the pavement work done and not have the machinery coming over 706 01:06:25,550 --> 01:06:28,010 the freshly paved roads. 707 01:06:31,650 --> 01:06:33,490 Thank you. 708 01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:35,830 I had a couple of questions. 709 01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:39,370 One, we update annually. 710 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:50,650 How do we see where we were that was modified to get to the 27 budget? 711 01:06:51,110 --> 01:06:54,910 What items shifted in and what items shifted out? 712 01:06:54,910 --> 01:07:02,110 That would question number one, and question number two, well, I'll ask question number one first. 713 01:07:03,860 --> 01:07:09,680 So, that review, we are establishing our annual tradition during goal setting. 714 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:19,420 So, you were called that we'll have a portion of that session talking about the CIP and that helps to inform the budget, 715 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:25,100 and this is kind of the annual review of what's going to happen in the year ahead. 716 01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:42,200 So, the goal setting really is that sometimes a one, two to five year review of certain projects that the council has said this is a priority and you're directed staff to kind of work to figure out how to fund this is really just a review in one year. 717 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:57,280 Right, and I understand that, but it's a goal setting is still in a evolutionary project where we continue to add stuff or subtract things. 718 01:07:57,860 --> 01:08:01,520 How can we approve a capital improvement project? 719 01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:07,240 Budget with all of these line items that perhaps we haven't fully embedded? 720 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:07,920 And you 721 01:08:11,950 --> 01:08:19,410 have a previous, either independent actions, recognizing that we highlighted the work 722 01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:21,550 that was being done on our roads in May. 723 01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:26,570 We talked about our breakwater project, I believe that was also in May. 724 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:31,410 So independently, you have reviewed these projects. 725 01:08:31,750 --> 01:08:36,930 You're just listing them out as required by state law on one sheet. 726 01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:38,310 That's what tonight's about. 727 01:08:38,310 --> 01:08:39,650 Thank you. 728 01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:42,210 Then let me ask a second question. 729 01:08:42,790 --> 01:08:45,990 The Benecia Train Depot Preservation and Maintenance Project. 730 01:08:46,850 --> 01:08:50,290 Isn't that money coming out of settlement money? 731 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:55,370 And so the settlement money just shifts into the CIP budget. 732 01:08:58,670 --> 01:09:00,970 Has taken out of that special account? 733 01:09:02,690 --> 01:09:08,250 The train depot project is funded by the import settlement money. 734 01:09:08,250 --> 01:09:15,970 I would add for the record that tonight's action is to prove the plan, not a budget. 735 01:09:16,750 --> 01:09:19,170 This is not a budget approval item. 736 01:09:19,570 --> 01:09:20,870 It's strictly a plan. 737 01:09:21,630 --> 01:09:30,510 And it was previously based on a two year budget that had a two year CIP program that was brought to Council in May of 2025. 738 01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:39,750 Right. And my only comment on that is my concern is that that was brought back in 2025 and we're 739 01:09:39,750 --> 01:09:48,730 looking at 27 with perhaps a fairly significant fiscal cliff. And there are things perhaps 740 01:09:48,730 --> 01:09:53,330 on in here that we might want to rethink. Thank you. 741 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,920 So, how much of this Toro budget? 742 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,420 There has been paid for by other sources of funding other than the city of Benisha. 743 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:31,840 I could direct back to the funding sources. We have some grant participation in the budget that comes from outside sources, 744 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,400 looking through it. 745 01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:44,060 The majority is enterprise and gas tax incentive bill one is a portion. 746 01:10:46,460 --> 01:10:53,400 I don't have the exact numbers of the breakout for, or your council member, but there 747 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,080 is certainly some participation by outside sources. 748 01:10:57,620 --> 01:11:03,060 Right, because at the beginning of the presentation, you listed all the sources of funding. 749 01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:14,340 And it would be good to see how much money came from each source and what's not coming out of our taxpayer pockets. 750 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:26,040 So, while this is a lot of bull plan, I feel like I want to approve the plan, but I want to make sure that I understand how it's getting paid for. 751 01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:28,980 Great, great question, Councilmember. 752 01:11:29,620 --> 01:11:35,880 A majority of it is the general fund and a lot of these have already been either budgeted or approved through council from our contract being brought. 753 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:52,160 Obviously, we have the raw waterline, which we will be funding out of the utilities fund, but it will also hopefully be reimbursed within a couple years afterwards from FEMA along with other government agencies, but majority of this is the enterprise fund. 754 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,860 Thank you for that. 755 01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:05,180 All right, I've got a few questions on the other, 756 01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:10,900 it's a small one, the diversity art 757 01:12:10,900 --> 01:12:13,520 mural project listed at $20,000. 758 01:12:14,660 --> 01:12:19,960 Are you aware that the air district has also made us a grant of $25,000 for that same project? 759 01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:25,160 And if so, is this a, are we going to need $45,000 for that project? 760 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,780 or can we back this one out and you see your district money is dead? 761 01:12:30,260 --> 01:12:35,920 So again, to reiterate, this is not a budget, this is a plan for which we are aligning 762 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,700 the cost for those projects. 763 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:44,120 But I want to be sure that the work is aware that there is this other source coming in. 764 01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:48,260 And there's Dan, it's not a budget, but it is for planning purposes. 765 01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:55,900 staff is aware and staff is working with the Air District, however, there have been some hiccups. 766 01:12:55,980 --> 01:12:56,240 Really? 767 01:12:56,460 --> 01:12:57,240 I'm securing those dollars. 768 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,820 But again, this isn't identifying the budget or the source of funding. 769 01:13:03,060 --> 01:13:08,160 It's just itemizing the work that will be done for our CIP plan. 770 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,800 I hope you'll let me know about the hiccups that might be able to help with those. 771 01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:23,900 Are you aware that there is a meeting happening tomorrow at the Chamber about downtown Parking and I assume you guys are participating in this? 772 01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:27,080 Yes, Mayor. 773 01:13:28,260 --> 01:13:28,960 We are presenting. 774 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:29,920 Okay. 775 01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:37,200 It's based on the 2728 pavement rehab program for the downtown. 776 01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:38,680 Well, it all happened to the downtown. 777 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,340 And it will then also include discussion of potential changes 778 01:13:42,340 --> 01:13:45,440 to one way streets, two ways streets. 779 01:13:48,210 --> 01:13:49,570 That's currently not on our agenda. 780 01:13:51,850 --> 01:13:54,010 But there's something we've talked about at least up here 781 01:13:54,010 --> 01:13:57,850 is whether or not it makes sense to maybe move to one way 782 01:13:57,850 --> 01:14:01,870 from two ways to allow for perpendicular parking instead 783 01:14:01,870 --> 01:14:02,730 of parallel parking. 784 01:14:03,970 --> 01:14:05,790 Our consultants are looking into that currently 785 01:14:05,790 --> 01:14:08,730 when we do the actual projects scoping. 786 01:14:08,730 --> 01:14:14,630 But I think for the people who are going to show up tomorrow, they might ask that question. 787 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:17,350 Or you might want to be prepared to discuss that. 788 01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:20,750 I would still respond the same way with our consultant. 789 01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:23,210 It will be investigating that and provide our feedback. 790 01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:29,870 If I really quickly jump in, it sounds very fruitful. 791 01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:38,410 But I think the item tonight is really about, you know, 792 01:14:38,410 --> 01:14:44,570 conformity with the general plan. So tomorrow's meeting sounds interesting, but is outside 793 01:14:44,570 --> 01:14:49,950 the scope of the item tonight, which is reviewing the capital improvement projects in 794 01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:51,330 conformity with the general plan. 795 01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:54,050 But presumably, we can add questions about those projects that are listed. 796 01:14:57,090 --> 01:14:59,970 Yes, in evaluating their conformity. 797 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,700 Governments with the general plan and the city's actions on the budget and the city's action on the general plan. 798 01:15:11,900 --> 01:15:18,420 All right. Greenage improvements, project is listed somewhere here. 799 01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:26,600 And my question on that is it would it include concerns that people who live in the 800 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:33,620 condos have raised about flooding. Is there that part of this drainage improvement project? 801 01:15:35,970 --> 01:15:44,610 Yes, it is. We are looking to provide backflow devices on the per-preventors on the drain 802 01:15:44,610 --> 01:15:48,550 which is that feed into the brain of property outside the brain of property. 803 01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:51,130 And I see that on the pavement, we have projects. 804 01:15:51,670 --> 01:15:56,830 You've got two 27 and 28, and that's, you said, for design purposes. 805 01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:01,710 400,000 for 27,100,000 for 28. 806 01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:05,570 If you're going to do them both next year, why wouldn't you just do them all together in one project 807 01:16:05,570 --> 01:16:07,710 design for both years? 808 01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:08,770 That's the plan. 809 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:22,050 We are looking at the downtown pieces collectively to make sure that we're not missing an opportunity to do the design together. 810 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:30,730 But the reason you see a larger amount for the 2027 project is because we will come to completion of the 27 project in fiscal 27. 811 01:16:30,730 --> 01:16:39,170 the design of it, the completion of the, we will begin with planning elements of the 28 projects. 812 01:16:39,310 --> 01:16:41,570 That's why you're seeing a lesser amount for the 28 projects. 813 01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:50,910 All right, and one more, having to do with the, and I read it wrong initially, on the East 814 01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:53,690 Age 7 Street, I thought we don't have West 7 Street. 815 01:16:54,490 --> 01:16:58,710 So an ongoing issue in the community is a conditional West 7 Street. 816 01:16:58,710 --> 01:17:05,270 And when people ask about it, I say, well, we're waiting on doing a sewer line or a water line replacement. 817 01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:10,190 And then after that, we can actually repay it. 818 01:17:10,370 --> 01:17:11,370 So two questions. 819 01:17:13,290 --> 01:17:15,450 When is that scheduled to happen? 820 01:17:15,450 --> 01:17:18,930 The replacement of that water slash sewer line, I'm not sure which it is. 821 01:17:19,870 --> 01:17:24,010 And when it happens, will it also include repaying the road? 822 01:17:24,010 --> 01:17:29,850 assume that once the work is done, a contractor or somebody's going to have to repair and 823 01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:34,370 repave that section of 7th Street. Am I right on the last part? 824 01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:41,320 As it relates to the utility work, we are doing a condition assessment to verify the work 825 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:47,220 that's needed on the utility. Underneath West 7th and confirm what's needed in that area, 826 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:55,520 simultaneously we've planned to do the work on West 7th, the pavement 827 01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:03,520 we have, no later than 2029, we have a grant application in safe streets for all to do the 828 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,880 that could potentially accelerate the work that's 2028. 829 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,720 But we wouldn't do it before we actually replace the water line. 830 01:18:10,300 --> 01:18:10,820 Correct. 831 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:18,520 We're looking at the utility piece and we'll have that in line so that neither of those schedules 832 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,260 are. 833 01:18:19,460 --> 01:18:22,980 No later than 2029 would West 7th be done. 834 01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:28,660 I was going to be happy for a lot of people, but that is the answer and all except. 835 01:18:30,260 --> 01:18:31,840 Okay, that's the last question I had. 836 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,900 Is there any public, let's go to public comment? 837 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,300 Is there anybody on the audience who would like to make any public comment on the capital on public land? 838 01:18:40,940 --> 01:18:45,640 All right, seeing none, is there anybody online who would like to make comment on the public on the CIP? 839 01:18:47,580 --> 01:18:50,980 All right, so the request is to 840 01:18:52,220 --> 01:18:57,980 Dr. Ruthelution approving the revised fiscal 2016-27 capital improvement program. 841 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,200 I'm looking for a motion in that regard. 842 01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,980 I'll move it. 843 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,400 And I'll second it. 844 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,920 So, Ms. Wolf, please call the roll. 845 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,420 Council members, part-time? 846 01:19:12,020 --> 01:19:12,640 Larguis Fata? 847 01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:14,060 Ms. Sensei? 848 01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:15,540 Yes. 849 01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:19,420 And that takes us to the act. 850 01:19:19,420 --> 01:19:24,340 report this is our individual reports on different parts of the 851 01:19:24,340 --> 01:19:30,000 Valero transition and so I'll start on my left. 852 01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:32,260 Do we have anything to report from Mr. Largis Fata? 853 01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:34,880 Right, this word says. 854 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:35,560 Yeah, mayor. 855 01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:36,880 Council members got. 856 01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:39,800 Short one spoke to you signature. 857 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:45,900 Talk to Mike said that they're continuing to do their outreach programs. 858 01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:50,440 There's another open house in the library in September. 859 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:59,980 There are a number or more planned throughout the September October time frame and that. 860 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,160 That they're looking for a, they're continuing to look to a false middle of a land use plan or pre-application. 861 01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:16,380 All right. And I will report as I usually do on air district grants. It's getting down to the point of actually 862 01:20:17,740 --> 01:20:26,380 We've still haven't heard what the recommendation is going to be from the air district in terms of the catalyst grant with us and the school district who are 863 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,380 in line to split or 864 01:20:30,460 --> 01:20:34,380 some portion of the $40 million that's in the catalyst grant. 865 01:20:35,700 --> 01:20:37,840 We hope to hear something by the end of the week. 866 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,480 The board itself will act on that catalyst grant on September 2. 867 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:45,520 Well, that'll be a big day for the community 868 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,240 and depending on how the recommendations come down. 869 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,100 And then the other one is for the opportunity grants. 870 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,980 And if you are a representative of a group that 871 01:20:56,980 --> 01:20:59,560 applied for opportunity grants, you should know, 872 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,920 if you haven't heard already, that the district will be 873 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,400 having a meeting of the equity and housing 874 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,260 and justice committee, 875 01:21:08,260 --> 01:21:15,260 And reviewing the recommendations from the staff on September the 9th at 1pm. 876 01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:25,160 And so I asked for a list of all the Venetia related opportunity grant applicants, so that they can be notified that this is going to happen. 877 01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:31,500 It will be available on Zoom or you can come down to San Francisco or else a read-o to participate in person. 878 01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:39,080 But I've got some concerns about how the Optine Grant program has been designed and is 879 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,260 functioning that I'm going to be asking, talking about, but I would like to get some support 880 01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:49,060 from others who are the actual applicants and get their experience on the record and let the 881 01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:54,660 other directors hear about it because I think we need to make some changes in how that program 882 01:21:54,660 --> 01:22:01,520 has been designed and this is you know we're the first applicant the first round of grants 883 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,260 and it'll for us will be the last one but for other parts of the Bay Area under the 884 01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:11,720 air district jurisdiction they're going to be doing this routinely and I think we need to 885 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:17,680 make some fixes to make this a little bit more reasonable and equitable and a program that is 886 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:22,560 currently out there. So September 9th is a date for I'm looking at Maryland but if you're 887 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:27,040 anybody else out there who was an applicant, they should be aware that September 9th 888 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,940 at 1 o'clock is something that you should set aside to talk to the district and the board 889 01:22:32,940 --> 01:22:43,830 members about opportunity grant. And that's all I have on that. And I do want to say one 890 01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:51,270 thing before we adjourn. If I take a moment to remember two individuals who had significant 891 01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:56,790 portions of their lives spent in Venetia and serve the community in a number of ways. 892 01:22:58,350 --> 01:23:03,130 We recently learned of the passing of Will Tarbo, who was our public works director. 893 01:23:04,890 --> 01:23:10,270 And also today we just learned that Pierre Bedouf, former police chief and 894 01:23:10,890 --> 01:23:12,770 Biti Council member passed away today. 895 01:23:14,090 --> 01:23:19,650 Both Mr. Tarbo and Mr. Bedouf serve the city in leadership positions. 896 01:23:19,650 --> 01:23:33,770 It made significant contributions to the city and we're grateful for their years of public service and extend our sincere condolences to their family and friends and former colleagues and everybody who knew them. 897 01:23:34,150 --> 01:23:37,070 And so I would like to just ask for a moment of silence in their memory. 898 01:23:43,460 --> 01:23:44,880 Thank you and with that we are adjourned.